Eden Area MAC Meeting: Budget Input & Cell Tower Renewal - October 15, 2025

We are waiting for quorum.

When we have a quorum, we will start the meeting.

All right.

Okay.

Sorry, everyone.

We were just had one more person who was stuck in traffic.

You know how it is around here.

Um, so let me just call the meeting to order at what time is it?

6 07 if that clock is right.

All right.

Um, do you want to do the roll call, please?

Council member Aston Nielsen.

Here.

Councilmember Marrahoco.

Yes.

Councilmember Roll.

Present.

Councilmember Stanley excused.

Councilmember Cushman excused.

Chair Widler.

Here.

We have a quorum.

Okay, thank you.

Um, can we all stand please for the pledge of allegiance?

Well, all right.

At this point, we will um open the agenda for public comments.

This is your time to um speak on any item that you would like.

Do we have speakers signed up?

Okay.

Officer past, you're online.

All right, thank you for having me this evening.

I'm sorry I'm joining you uh virtually.

I prefer to be in person, but I hope all of you have been safe, especially through this recent uh wet weather.

Our stats for September, we issued 337 traffic citations.

We towed 33 vehicles, we had 18 DOI arrests, three felony arrests for misdemeanor arrest.

Uh there were 33 non-injury crashes in the area and 21 injury crashes.

We were covered two stolen vehicles that had drivers which were taken into custody in the Eden area.

Um, our ongoing traffic complaints that we're focusing on, uh speed on Hisparian and the big rigs on Grant.

That's just an issue that we're really trying to focus on stopping those big rigs from going down the wrong streets in the community.

Um our upcoming enforcement days, Halloween, October 31st.

Our focus is going to be on DUI drivers.

So we are going to be saturating the entire area as well as the freeway and stopping people who we believe are intoxicated.

And if they are hopefully taking them to jail, we will take them to jail.

Uh, we're continuing our new uh saturation in the unincorporated areas, and that's going very well.

If you have any traffic complaints uh during the day, we would like to hear about them so that we can uh send our new team out there to try to uh stop these traffic complaints that are occurring.

Upcoming events will be at the emergency preparedness booth up in San Leandro with Supervisor Tam's office this Saturday, October 18th.

And then on October 25th, we're gonna be at the Halloween parade there in San Lorenzo.

We're so excited.

Uh, upcoming education uh on October 30th, we have our start smart class at our office in Hayward, and that's from 6 o'clock to 8 p.m.

And a little safety tip.

October is pedestrian safety.

So if you're a pedestrian before stepping out in front of a car, make eye contact with the driver.

Make sure they see you and make sure that they are planning on stopping before you enter the roadway.

And for our motorists out there, watch for people walking and people bicycling, obey all the speed limits, avoid distractions, and know the laws about pedestrian right-aways while driving.

As always, I'm taking those traffic complaints.

Please email us at 345 reckless driving at chp.ca.gov, or you can call our office during business hours at 510-489-1500.

Thank you, and I look forward to seeing you guys soon.

Randy Wage.

Hello, how's it going?

Um, I just wanted to let people know on uh Thursday, October 23rd, there's a Casser Valley Eden Mac, not Mac.

Oh my gosh.

Eden Chamber uh mixer uh from 5 30 to 7 30 at Lyle Nichols that's a 2743 Casser Valley Boulevard.

I always just like to plug the the mixers because they're a lot of fun.

You can get food you know there's booze also um so that's Thursday October 23rd Friday October 24th I'm part of the SO SOS Sky West uh save the former Sky West golf course as an open space park and so on Friday we're meeting at the Kennedy Park parking lot at five o'clock and Mimi Dean will do a curated um tour of the former uh Skywest uh golf course uh hopefully people can join us if you'd like um we're really trying to push for this it really affects San Lorenzo because so many of the houses are right up against that golf course and it'd be so much nicer to have an open space park as opposed to eight or nine industrial buildings tons of hangars filling in all the ponds and destroying all of the nature there lastly we are having our Halloween parade um that Officer Pops I would say your name wrong probably just mentioned uh October 25th it's at the San Lorenzo Village Homes Association we start at the I call it the Tongan Church now but it used to be the Salorenza Community Church on Pasio Grande at 10 a.m 945 and then you'll be able to walk all the way down Paso Grande to the HOA at 377 Paso Grande uh for games from 10 30 to 1.

So hopefully everybody can join us for that too.

Thank you so much have a good meeting tonight.

Borisha Sprigs you're online you have three minutes.

Hi this is Marisha I love in Ashland uh right on East 14th Street um I have a question in terms of should I be addressing CHP or share parking enforcement for uh cars that are parking in the bike lane uh when I um I was a calist for the East 14th corridor improvement project phase two right in Ashland and some of those parking spaces were turned were that used to be parking spaces are were turned into part of the bike lane and those cars are still parking there um and I also see a lot of uh scooters um on the sidewalks when there's those electric scooters fast ones when they should be also on the bike lane so I'm seeing a lot of this I also see um at the um ashland Zola Coal Park that people that do not have a handicap placard are parking in the handicap space and so should again the question is should I be reporting that to CHP or share off parking enforcement this is a constant uh constant problems that I'm seeing so yeah that's that's my comment and my question thank you uh supervisor miley's office will uh reach out regarding these issues thank you ashley did you got that Barisha Supervisor Miley's office will address it Michael Moore.

My name is Michael Moore I'm an Ashland resident um the the questions that I have for right now um are relative to the previous speakers uh for the CHP, it would be nice if we had some way to gauge um this year and last year uh since you can't break out stats by community, and I understand that uh it would be nice to know what happened last year that you recorded and what you reported this year.

And if you don't have stats for last year, just tell us you don't have stats for last year.

I'm sorry, I I can't remember your name.

Good.

It would be great if if that was all on like a handout or something.

It would be it would be great if all those wonderful dates and things were all on a handout that was available during the meeting, so that we don't have to wait for the minutes to find out that the event has already happened.

Yeah, I was thinking more about all in one because you had a lot of dates, but thank you.

And I don't think that's the CHP.

I think that I think that the ticketing enforcement was uh the sheriff's office who rarely ever shows and really um i is a hole in our our systems, uh, which I'll be addressing later when we talk about the the big plan, but it would seem to me that we should tell everybody, like a continuing announcement about having uh translation available, um, that it would be best to understand how to tell somebody about a problem, like people parking in the middle of the cycling lanes.

Thank you.

So one of these uh meetings recently we heard uh um a lot about the county's uh unincorporated budget, and um one of the items that came up was this $500,000 for the reach Ashland, very important money going there.

Well, it turns out that money actually comes from something called the Enhancing Vision 2020 2036 fund, and today at the Board of Supervisors, they actually presented a um a whole report, a detailed report on all the money that they're spending in that fund over the last several years.

And if you look at that report, um it's very simple.

There's a whole system, it's very, very easy and logical system for that enhancing vision.

Um, every district gets the same amount of money.

Um, and every district has about the same population.

So that's nice and logical.

And then, so I just went in and looked, and I set found, oh wow, my district where I live, I live in Fremont, um, they're spending less money than any other district.

They're not getting they're getting, you know, they should be if they to get one fifth of the money they should be spending over a million dollars a year, and the last uh one, two, three, four, four years in a row, they've spent less than a million dollars.

So, you know, it's uh there, so that's one thing.

What this, you know, uh the system is there, but it's not getting executed, and then if you actually look, that district is divided in half, almost split exactly evenly between one side of the mountains, uh, Tri-Valley, and the other side of the mountains, which is Houden City, Fremont, uh Newark.

And um, then when you go and look at all the money they've spent in the last two years, which I did, um, you find out that they're spending half as much money as they should have been spending, and um most of it went to the other side, and little uh a lot less came to this side.

So, this pattern happens everywhere in the county where the system is there, the execution fails, nobody looks at the numbers.

The numbers are there today.

Uh item seven on the agenda.

And you know, and it's just uh you people aren't watching this stuff, and uh people, you know, people can do whatever they want, um, and and money is not getting spent, and when it does get spent, it kind of gets spent unevenly.

Thank you.

No more speakers.

Okay, thank you.

Um let me just answer the one question about the um having a CHP or sheriff's department here at a time when they can interact more.

Quarterly, we do have them come and give a longer report and have an agenda time, but it's it's like every quarter, so we just kind of have to wait and see when they can fit in based on uh the agenda.

But it will be you'll see it on the agenda when that event comes.

All right, um, let's see, next on our agenda for tonight.

Then is the approval of the minutes from September 9th.

We should all receive those.

Is anybody have any corrections or additions?

Right?

Or the site development review that took place.

Um Taylor, I thought the motion you made is different than what's listed here, but I can't exactly remember on page five.

Page five?

Yeah, because it says it says we didn't approve the recommendation as proposed, which is right, but I thought we did propose like a modified height.

Does that ring a bell at all?

Uh um I I think so my recollection of what the motion was in totality was that agreed we were rejecting the initial proposal with the recommendation to come back with a uh site design and then um a review of the fence because that was part of our difficulty, but I think a lot of it was incomplete because we didn't have full visibility into the plans for the site itself, which incorporated design.

So I'm just rereading that one more time.

Uh are you I mean, I suppose with the latter part, are you saying that it would be clearer to say with a revision for the proposed fence?

Because it says plan in addition to their proposal for a fence.

And I mean, maybe it's a semantics.

Is that what you were thinking?

Partially yes.

I just thought that you had I thought that we had said something about yes to part of what they were proposing.

I mean, we didn't say no to the fence, we just were not able to fully respond given the lack of information we had to their investment in the property, if that makes sense.

Okay.

Um, but I mean I would be receptive to a slight rephrasing if it is unclear because I don't I don't think that we were saying the fence as it was presented was a yes either.

It's just reviewing the plan for that space overall and come forth with how they envision it developing within the community versus a singular point.

Okay, that works.

Okay, so then I guess that proposed the proposal would be uh a motion was made by um council member Aston Nielsen, seconded by Vice Chair Cushman to not approve the recommendation as proposed and recommend that applicant return with a design plan in addition to their review of proposed fence.

Does that sound fair?

Yeah.

Okay, you said with a design, so designed Jan in addition to their review of a proposed fence.

Okay, in addition to the review.

Yeah, that's I vaguely remember that that's kind of what we said was not so much against the fence, except that they had all these other ideas for what they wanted, and we didn't have any vision into that.

Singularly any more questions.

We can say that yes, and we were trying to make sure they don't get served in notice.

Uh yes.

Okay, so what they had said, oh yeah, you're right.

Um I don't know that that was part of the motion, but I think we did say to um extend their period of time with the fence until then.

Yeah, I believe that was part of it.

We can I'm open to adding that if the rest of or if Diane and you are open to that.

Yes.

Yes.

Leaving the uh being able to leave a chain link.

Yes.

I will add they have removed it though.

So that's an actuality.

But yes, we did request that they have the option.

So I'll amend that then and to say um proposed that applicant has extended time with the fence until proposal additional proposal is made.

You got that.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um anybody else on the board?

Um just thank you.

I do remember talking to the gauche.

Right.

We wanted to make it something that they they could work with.

Agreed, yeah.

Thank you for that.

All right.

Um, any other corrections, additions, or is there a motion to um approve the minutes as corrected or amended?

I didn't have anything, so I'm happy to propose a motion to approve the minutes as amended.

I can second that if you like.

Okay, so it's been moved and seconded to um approve the minutes as amended.

Council member Aston Nielsen, aye.

Council member Marmahoco.

Yes, Councilmember Roll.

Aye.

Councilmember Stanley excuse council member Cushman, excuse Chair Weidler.

Um, okay.

Um first item for tonight is it's a conditional use permit for the renewal of a you um of a CUP for a cell phone tower.

Yes, and our presenter is Maril Hujmaili.

Yes, a smiley.

Okay.

Hello, okay.

Um good evening, everyone.

Um I am Moral Ismaili, and tonight I'm presenting the CUP renewal application application uh for 2536 Grand Avenue with PLN number um 2025 uh-00120.

Next slide, please.

Um the applicant is proposing continued operation of the existing ATT uh virus telecommunication facility with no changes to uh proposed to the existing facility on the PGNE tower.

The applicant Karen uh Lineard uh is attending the meeting online.

So if there's any specific question uh for them, you could ask after the presentation.

Um the parcel is located within Eden Area General Plan, uh land use designation of light industrial and research and development offices.

Uh the zoning is M1B40, uh, which refers to light industrial 40,000 square foot um minimum building site, um site area district.

The project is categor categorically exempt from California Environmental Quality Act section uh one five three zero one existing facility.

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Um the previous CUP expired on October 2024, and the renewal is for continued oper uh continued operation of the existing ATT wireless telecommunication facility with no changes proposed to existing facility on the tower.

No changes are proposing to the equipment area and antenna area specification.

So we hope um Eden Area Municipal Advisory Council recommend for approval uh of the conditional use permit renewal.

Next slide, please.

Uh the site is a large flat parcel, which uh currently is used as an industrial storage yard.

Um there is an existing PGNE tower on the parcel near to the Grand Avenue frontage.

Most of the parcel is undeveloped.

Uh and the surrounding area are mainly warehouses as industrial uses.

Some developed with one story or two-story um concrete structures, and the Oreo Loma sanitary District is to the west, where Grand Avenue dead ends.

To the east, there is a mixture of commercial uses and industrial units to the north and south of the subject.

Next slide, please.

So the antenna and equipment area specification are listed based on the latest 6409 approval for PLN 2023, 0005.

That approved on July 5, 2023.

So they would remain with the um the same as the currently uh they currently operating uh for the antenna and the equipment area.

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Uh here you can see the site plan um showing the BGNE tower from the top with the surrounding equipment area.

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So here uh ATT presenting the existing uh six antennas and 12 remote radio units uh along with the associated ground equipment uh installed adjusting to the tower.

Next slide, please.

Um on this elevation, the existing uh 100 foot PG<unk>E lactic tower has associated um radio equipment, battery backup equipment and utility equipment installed in a fenced um fenced area approximately 10 by 30 adjacent to the PGNE tower.

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So here you can see the overall uh aerial view of the PGNE tower, and they're stating that the continued operation of the ATT facility will not be determined to the health, safety, or general welfare of the surrounding community, and they are fully compliant uh with the general um preferences of co-location with wireless facilities.

Next slide, please.

So staff uh found that uh this case is in compliance with both Eden Area General Plan as the site is designated under light industrial and research and development offices district, and uh the zoning um and also it is in compliance with the zoning ordinance as um M1B40, which refers to light industrial minimum lot size 40,000 um square feet uh district, uh which does not specifically refer to telecommunication facilities.

Uh therefore appropriate standards for the facilities are required through Alameda County development standards for sitting uh of telecommunication facilities.

Next slide, please.

Um, in conformance with Alameda County standard for telecommunication facilities, um they are allowed subject to the conditional use permit uh per policy A-2.

Also, according to policy I-2, uh freestanding telecommunication facilities or towers shall be located and um designed to minimize visual impacts.

Uh, I think they're trying to do so.

Uh although not all towers shall be required to do so.

Uh monopoles in areas where uh where advir where adverse uh impact cannot be avoided.

And uh also according to policy B-1 and B-2 telecommunication facilities are preferred to be located in one of the locations listed as industrial location, commercial and agricultural location, which this site is uh in industrial.

Next slide, please.

So staff recommend uh to Eden Area uh municipal uh councils to recommend to the Board of Zoning Adjustments approval of the conditional use permit for another 10 years uh with the existing facility as it is.

Thank you.

Next slide.

And if there's any question, I'm here for you.

Okay, thank you.

Um any board members have any or council members have any um questions, comments, right?

I'm looking at you.

I see you're getting ready.

Um, does the county get paid for the use of that site.

Does the county get paid for the use of the site?

No.

No.

So it's not like a cell phone tower sort of thing.

It is a cell phone tower, but um it's through their friend uh parties, I think.

Rodrigo, hi everybody, Rodrigo Dunya County Planning Department.

So yeah, so this is on private property, it's actually Oralama's center district property.

So um, so no, so the rent is not paid to the county, it's paid to Oraloma Sanitary.

There are facilities that are on uh public power poles um out on streets, and actually that's becoming more and more frequent because they need to be placed more and more frequently, depending on the on the technological use, and the county gets paid for those.

We actually don't go through conditional use process for those, those are in public right-of-way, the public works agency has a lease agreements uh with the carriers for those.

Thank you for explaining.

And with the money that the Laura Almore district gets, is are they so they're not county?

Are they independent?

They're a special district, yes, a sanitary district.

And then they just make that a budget line item in their numbers, right?

Okay, all right, thank you.

Okay, anyone else, Taylor?

Anything?

Uh Rodrigo just gave me a second question.

Yes, be prepared.

So my first one might be easy, just to triple confirm uh what we are seeing proposed here, because frequently when the requests come in, there are some modifications, but it sounds like this is like for like so what has been there for many many many years.

The proposal is just to extend it with no additional modifications to the height or design.

Alright.

So what happens um the federal government has uh passed legislation um through uh and I could through the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC, that allows for incremental modifications to existing telecommunications facilities.

That's what we refer to as 6409 permits, it's a section of the uh federal legislation, uh, that allows for incremental modifications.

So um they can make uh certain percentage modifications within any time period within the the conditional use permit uh lifespan, which is every 10 years, and we have to approve them.

So there's no discretion.

It's it's uh or you're increasing the height by less than 10%, you can go ahead and do so.

So in this case, they're not increasing the PGE tower height because they're well below that.

They would, if anything, they would increase the size of the antennas themselves, or perhaps add equipment or modify equipment at the floor, uh, and those would be the modifications.

Other towers separately, completely unrelated to this, could for example increase the height of their uh of their um pole to increase because they need to add capacity to the antennas or whatever, as long as it's under a certain percentage, we have to permit them.

I see.

So this falls within that and it it's even less based on like it's even less because the tower itself is is huge.

I see, yes.

And they're they're well below the the maximum height of the tower where they've located their infrastructure.

Okay.

Okay, so there are some modifications, but it's not changing um significantly.

That's helpful.

And then you had mentioned too that if it were on county property that public works has a lease agreement.

So I'm just curious if we were to compare the two experiences.

What is the review and oversight difference between private property and public property?

Um there is less design review on public property, they just stick those up uh and the county gets a lease versus on private property, the ones that you see that are uh camouflaged, such as pine trees or flagpoles, sometimes they're more successful than other times, but those are usually because of community desire that they be camouflaged and not so uh naked.

I see.

Um in this case on a on a PGE uh lattice, we figured, well, the PG and E lattice is so huge that the antennas are not gonna add uh substantial distraction to the view of the lattice itself.

Okay, but as it relates to like public health and safety, for example, the review and oversight is conceptually equivalent.

Okay, because the FCC trumps local jurisdictions on ears of any uh radio frequency emissions.

Okay, thank you.

Um I understand that their CUP expired last year, so what what's been happening since then?

Have they been operating without or is it not operating?

So we we send out remo basically reminder letters, and if they don't comply in this case they did, then we send them for enforcement to sell clients.

Ultimately it's placed on the property owner.

So in this case our aluminum is pretty quick to get to people, so so when when it's time for uh nearing time for for uh expiration, we send a reminder letters to come in and and uh renew their permits.

So did they respond or have they been fined?

So they so they've responded.

The purpose of code enforcement is not necessarily to find people unless they don't comply.

If they do comply with the funds, okay.

And then what is the purpose of this tower for ATT wireless?

Is it for people's cell phones or for internet or so, yeah?

So it's all our cell phone use, yes.

And the last C UP that was granted was that for 10 years also, or yeah, the the FCC requires that unless there's a an overriding uh land use concern that we have to approve them for 10 years.

Okay.

So so as an example, if there were two uh facilities, two different carriers, because sometimes they co-locate, and one was set to expire in six years, and another one, um so the first one that was approved for 10 years has six years left in their in their use.

The next one that comes in, we're like, hey, we need you to coordinate joint landscaping, joint camouflage, whatever.

So we're gonna approve the second one for six years, so they both expire at the same time, and they both come in at the same time, and they have to work together to install landscaping, install cam, whatever.

So that could be a uh legitimate use of reduced time approval.

Thank you.

All right, anything else from the board or counsel?

Okay, see if there's any public comment on this.

No speakers.

Okay, none at all.

All right.

Well, if there's is there any other discussion or I will yes, somebody somebody raised their hand right now.

Oh, all right.

Well, we will reopen public comment for that person.

Okay, can you hear me?

Oh, I see.

Okay, yes, we can hear.

I just wanted to I'm the applicant, so I just wanted to say I'm here if anyone had any questions for me.

Otherwise, I think staff's done a really good job of um describing the project, but I just wanted to be sure you knew I was here and able to answer questions.

Okay, thank you.

No speakers.

All right.

So public comment is closed.

Um I if we don't have any other discussion, I will entertain a motion uh regarding this item.

Can I comment?

Michael, yeah, yeah.

Were you um you you were okay?

Okay, let me reopen public comment.

Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't sure that you wanted to speak.

So I got up.

Alright, go ahead.

Yeah.

All right, go ahead.

We'll reopen public comment.

Thank you.

Um so if I understand this right, um Loma, ATT, and Ms.

Linert are all part of the same group of people that are responsible for this um set of um equipment.

Is that correct?

Yeah.

Um is that okay.

Make your comment or leave your question and then Rodrigo can um address whatever's open at the end.

Did anybody ever survey the local users of that equipment to see if there were problems with reception?

In other words, are they being supported by this very ugly looking thing?

And the other question is if PGE and its wisdom decides to underground everything because it's an ISO or it's unsafe or they got money for it.

Um how do they underground the uh uh the other equipment that's on their on their gear or do they just say it's up to you guys to go out there and get it fixed?

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

So let me close public comment and Robrico, do you have um can you address those questions?

Sure.

So uh the landlord is just the landlord, they just receive lease money, so so it's the carrier who is responsible for the equipment itself, maintaining the equipment, upgrading the equipment.

Um in our society, the market dictates whether or not the customers properly being served uh by the equipment.

So if the equipment is not good enough to serve the public, these are all private customers that we all have cell phones, so the the customer um uh complains to the carrier.

Um as far as uh radio frequency emissions are concerned, again, um the the carrier provides documentation to us at the county that they have complied with FCC regulations regarding safety of uh to the public uh that that the equipment itself is far enough away from any uh receivers that it won't cause harm.

And so we have to accept that.

Um so uh there's there's no um there's no um local control over radio frequency emissions if if the documentation is provided.

Um regarding the aesthetics uh in staff's consideration, um the P<unk>A tower itself, it's this huge structure, much taller, much bulkier, much bigger, uh that the additional antennae uh do not constitute any uh significant aesthetic impact to to the environment in this industrial area adjacent to Oraloma.

So so we did not request in the initial approval nor in this renewal for them to camouflage it.

It's it's just antennas.

Um and uh let's see, what was the last question?

If PG and E decides to underground their lines and so on.

So that would be a matter between the carrier and PGE the that uh they they have a lease worked out that the that the carrier has a right to use the facility.

Oh, sorry.

So I'm kissing it now.

So um so we have to um let the the PGE and the carrier um uh determine if if PGE goes underground in these huge high-powered uh transmission lines, then they would have to um modify their lease with the carrier.

That's not a that's not a county um uh oversight that we have um the the the result would be that the carrier would no longer be on that tower and and this use permit would therefore be null and void because there would be no no condition.

Okay, thank you.

Um so public comment is closed.

I think we got those questions answered.

Um is any board council member have uh a motion regarding this?

Uh I'll motion to proceed with staff's recommendation.

All right, is there a second?

Motion is to accept the staff recommendation.

I second the motion to staff's recommendation.

All right, any other discussion among the council?

Okay, um call for the vote, please.

Councilmember Aston Nielsen.

Aye.

Council member Maramahoko.

Yes, council member roll.

Aye, council member Stanley, excuse council member Cushman, excuse Chair Widler.

Aye.

All right, thank you.

Okay, um, yeah.

Okay.

Well, we'll have a the our next item actually is regarding the budget, but Claudia has some exercises for.

So while she sets up, how about if we take a three-minute break?

Is that good?

Do you need help?

Yes.

We can come back to order, and I think we have to recall the vote, correct?

I mean the vote, the roll call.

Yes.

Yes.

Councilmember Aston Nielsen.

Here.

Councilmember Maramahoko.

Present.

Council member roll.

Hair.

Councilmember Stanley excuse.

Councilmember Cushman excuse Chair Widler.

Here.

We have a quorum.

All right.

So the next agenda item is called unincorporated area budget input process.

And I think Claudia is here from Nate Miley's office to give us the insight into this item.

Okay, I will.

Good evening, council members.

My name is Claudia Albano.

I'm Supervisor Miley's deputy chief of staff.

And I'm involved with a committee that is working to involve urban and rural communities in making comments on the services that they receive from Alameda County because the services that we see we receive are related to how money is spent and what the budget provides.

Can we have the next slide?

Next slide.

So tonight we'll be participating in a process to gather input from unincorporated community members, both both urban and rural into Alameda County's unincorporated area budget.

Next slide.

The process is the next step in developing an annual efficient yet thorough way for unincorporated communities to communicate with Alameda County about the services they receive and their budget priorities.

To participate in this process, all you need is your lived experience as a resident and as a MAC member.

No prior budget knowledge is necessary.

And at previous meetings, some people have commented that well, you're just members of the MAC, and who do you represent?

But you are appointed members by the Board of Supervisors.

You were report uh appointed to represent this community.

And although we're we have have and have had and will have large community meetings.

We specifically wanted to get your input based on your experience as a resident, but also as a MAC member going through these kinds of deliberations week after week.

Next slide.

So this is the um process that we've set up to be able to reach both urban and um rural community members on um September 18th.

You can see in the first box there, we held an urban area charette.

We had 70 attendees, and we went through the process that you're gonna go through tonight, or something similar to that.

And then on the 23rd of September, we were in the rural area.

We met in Sinnol, and we had about 2025 members there, went through the process.

And so in the second box in October this month, we're we're going to all the MACs and we're going to the Synol Community Advisory Council tomorrow night for the same process.

And that all once we have all that data, we're gonna compile and analyze it in November from these six charrettes, and we're gonna present the findings and recommendations to the unincorporated services committee at a big Mac combined unincorporated services meeting that will be held on December 3rd.

So that we hope that you'll all attend because there you'll be able to see the results of what people have said and the recommendations that we'll be making.

Next slide.

So if you want to see a list of the meetings, we still have we're doing the ED in one tonight, as you can see, but you can see we have three more.

If you want to attend, just let us know and we'll give you the times and the locations.

Next slide.

Okay, so here's some instructions for our virtual participants.

Because I'm sure that people want to give their input as well, and also members uh here this evening.

So after the MAC members have completed this exercise, the public will have the opportunity to private to provide their input too.

This will happen before the EMAC deliberates and or takes action.

So the public input will happen after you have had your exercise, but before you deliberate and take action.

So you'll be able to hear the public's comments.

Time given to the speakers is at your discretion, Chair Wildler, as you know.

So you'll based on the number of people who are in the queue, you'll be able to say whether people have three minutes or five minutes or two minutes or whatever.

We're also developing a survey that will be sent out in lake October to supplement this process.

So people of the members of the general public or people who haven't been able to attend these meetings will get a chance to put their input into.

So that will be coming.

Okay.

So on to the process.

Let's have the next slide.

So the first question.

So you've been given each one of give you have been given uh three of these sticky sheets.

You've been given and a marking pen.

And what I'd like you to do, could you put this question back up?

And by the way, for the viewing public, you're going to be able to see in real time uh what the results of this exercise is.

You don't have three.

Oh, they're stuck they're stuck together because they're sticky.

So here's the question.

So think about your experience and put down uh what are three major issues in the world that going on at this macro level in the world today that you think touch the Eden area community.

And I'm going to give you a few minutes to think about that, but what I want you to do is to uh come up with no more than three issues, white one issue per sheet.

Write big because we want people to be able to see it, and use as few words as possible.

So you could say global warming, for example.

It's a macro level issue that you think have implications for people right here in Ashland, Cherry Land, Hayward Acres, and San Lorenzo.

I'll give you a minute to think about that.

And as you get those, as you get those done, do you need a marking time?

Oh, yeah.

Give them to me.

Oh no.

Are there any more?

So are you surprised by anything that you see up there?

No.

Taylor, which which ones did you write and why?

I wrote economic development, environmental and community preservation.

Community specifically, the welfare and basically the safety aesthetic side, and then health and welfare.

So why did I write it?

Um at a micro level, I think we see a lot of people in need.

We see a lot of vacant real estate, people looking for work, people, um basically an environment, unfortunately, that gives the impression of being in decline in a lot of areas, which is not true.

So wanting to really address that because there's a bit of a gap or a disparity of people who have love their community, want to develop it, see an amazing positive future, but this space that lies vacant, which we could occupy, giving people work, bringing revenue into our communities, how do we fill that?

And I think that really addresses economic development as well as um kind of the other two in a way, but uh as it relates to environmental community preservation, uh protecting our wetlands, considering flood control.

Uh, we talked about Sky West earlier today, too.

How do we protect and support the beautiful natural areas of our community while our community grows?

And then health and welfare overlaps with a lot of these of how do we make sure people have stable housing?

How do we make sure they have food on their table and adequate medical care so that you know they're not looking for their daily prescription drugs as they increase in cost on a regular basis?

So those are the first couple things I could I could go into more.

So what I think I heard you say is that economic development is in some ways key to these other things falling into place.

I hate to sound like a capitalist, but um when you have revenue and funds, it allows you to facilitate a lot of these things.

Thank you.

Diane, what did you write and what are your thoughts on what you see?

Well, I wrote immigration safety and housing, because when I think of things in a world today at a macro level, it just seems truthfully, it just seems like a lot of people don't feel safe wherever they are in in their house, in a store, at their job, in school.

So and I put immigration because mostly it's a minorities that seem to be um suffering more so than others.

And I think safety just goes along with everything, right?

At this particular moment, in our society, it just seems like there's so much um I say controversy from people to people, even within families that I mean you just you I think a lot of us just don't feel safe anywhere.

Um and then housing I didn't housing I think uh people put it better by saying like um cost of living or because I didn't mean housing per se, I meant the overall taking care of your family in a house with food, being able to go to school, have clothes, I kind of meant uh your whole overall taking care of your family.

If your safety and well-being, so for you, safety was kind of an overarching thing.

If you don't feel safe, you're being pursued by whomever, uh, and you may not feel secure or have good economic development to have the housing that you need, you're not gonna have this well-being that you feel that people deserve or should have in our society.

So safety, you and this meant safety, not only your physical safety, but also safety from you know, food insecurity, housing insecurity.

Is that what you mean?

Yeah, pretty much all of it.

Just I mean, you ought to be able to be your own be a person and just feel safe walking about in the world.

And I'm not sure that a lot of people don't feel that way right now.

That's right.

That's right.

Thank you.

Megan, what about you?

What do you think?

What do you see up there?

And what did you uh did you write?

Um, I was thinking really globally and not necessarily about our community per se.

Um, because I'm thinking of issues that are affecting everyone around the globe.

But I think all three of the ones that I wrote, hunger, inflation, child care, I think they really all do boil down essentially to the cost of living.

Um, whether it be, you know, access to food, whether it's a specialty crop, like a fruits and vegetables, um, or you know, being in a food desert, or simply just not having enough money to buy the food that um maybe we all could have afforded a number of years ago.

Um that circles back obviously to inflation and the cost of living, whether it be the rents going up, whether it be food prices going up, child care, that going up, and even though I wrote child care, really.

I think when I thought about it more, it's almost um, I mean, the crisis that I think were more so in globally is the decline of birth rates because children are expensive to have and there is lack of support in many countries, including ours, um, to uh obviously perpetuate, you know, growing the next generation.

So I was thinking macro essentially, um, but obviously all of these issues impact our community intimately, um, especially here in the Bay Area, so and it has so much to do with the cost of living that the prices are going up for everything, housing, food, everything, right?

And Ray, what did you say?

You said government representation and sticky on this one.

So the first one I wrote was housing.

Okay.

Just because it's pervasive, and it's that's a problem, demand, lack of supply, uh, inability to build new housing, and ability to um access infill and rethink, reimagine some of our public spaces, is why I had housing first, and I see it more a little bit cost of living related, but also very closely tied to economic development or lack of it.

So in here, thank you.

The second one I wrote was government representation.

Um we're very privileged to be in a room like this and able to have a conversation amongst each other, but it's not lost on me that from a local standpoint, right?

The the supervisor's office is covering a very broad, broad area and a very large number of people, and that's really important that those voices get heard, and they aren't always, and we need to be mindful of that.

Um we talk here a lot about um language representation, language equity as being something we'd like to do more of, but beyond this room, um our country's about to turn 250.

The country's come a long way, but there are certainly issues and challenges, and a lot of people don't feel heard by their representatives at the local, at the state, at the county, and at the federal level.

And then it's an international issue as well, where there's a lot of especially youth movements around the world today that are actually overthrowing governments as we speak because the youth don't feel heard.

So that's something that also contributed to me writing government representation.

And then lastly, public health, because at the end of the day, people's safety, as has been mentioned, uh, is kind of tied to people's well-being, and as long as we're looking after the environment, as long as we're providing housing for one another, um, as long as hunger is an issue.

Uh, to me, public health is very closely related to all of those.

Uh, mental health is an aspect, but there's also physical health, there's pollution related issues that are local, national, and even global.

And so that's the reason I wrote my third item.

Great.

So it um would you is there any general comments you'd like to make about what you've seen up here that your colleagues have put up?

Anything you disagree with?

I just feel like we have a lot of change ahead of us that is needed.

So it's nice to see that we're aligned in that, but you know, a lot of steps ahead needed.

That's right.

Well, we um we wanted you to think on the macro level, because now we're going to turn to the micro level, and this is to just get your kind of juices flowing.

So, can we have the next slide?

So, this is the second question we want to ask you.

So, what would you change or improve about the services you receive from Alameda County, the things Alameda County has jurisdiction over?

The thing you and your neighbors have maybe experienced, or the things that you've noticed being a Mac member, what are the things that you would like to change on a very local level?

And if you could come up with no more than four issues, be sure your sticky side is facing the back.

And uh one issue per sticky, write big and use as few words as possible.

And we're just gonna go to the next slide for a minute because I want to explain what I mean a little bit more.

So your input could be around communication, you know, the county never calls me back, or customers, some kind of a customer service complaint.

It can be about service improvements that you would like to see or have noticed.

It could be for a program idea, something you think you know, we should be including in our budget priorities.

You could talk about budget-related data that you would like to see available, or any other kind of transparency from the county regarding the unincorporated community, or any budget document content, or the use of discretionary funds, it could really be anything, it could be anything that your experience tells you.

Do you want to more detail than those, though?

I mean, it could be that came to my mind was communication, but that's like a big broad thing.

It is, and so like what do you mean like calling you back or what the board uh policy is it around laws?

If you could be more specific, it would help.

So if we could go back to the other, the second question there, just go back one slide.

Um, yeah, be as specific as you can about what you would like to change or improve because it will help us in our next step.

If you're broad, that doesn't help us too much.

Okay.

I'll give you a couple minutes.

So while Ray's finishing up, let's just read what we have up there in no particular order.

Red light traffic enforcement, matching haves and needs, polite responsiveness, accountability, public work, street lights, pedestrian light crossing, salvation army with housing and job training, economic development, outreach and incentives, accessible and compulsory mental health and substance use treatment.

Ongoing tracking of progress to address survey of community needs, equitable and transparent budget communication, integration and distribution, job training programs and community development programs, community gardens, expanded clinics, prescription subsidies.

Prescription subsidies, public works management and oversight, business incentives and revitalization, affordable actionable plan.

All right.

So far left.

And then there are a few on public works.

Works.

Also transportation.

Transportation.

Uh, I think I think there was more than one.

I thought.

Here's one transportation.

Um, maybe maybe not then.

I guess we could do transport.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Oh, when you were looking for transportation, I was just looking at the red light traffic enforcement.

Seems like there might have been something else related to that.

Okay.

Oh, maybe it's the public works ones related kind of too.

So we have red light traffic enforcement.

Oh, outreach to all, and then there's equitable transparent.

Well, I mean, maybe because we're talking about the budget and communications.

Outreach for all, and I was just thinking about communication and then the budget, but yeah, are you willing to move budget over to the left?

Budget to the right of outreach to all.

You mean like this?

And if you move it left, it lines up a bit closer with equitable and transparent budget communication.

So you mean you would put this?

Like we this is oops.

Uh oh, sticky is starting to.

We had this problem before.

So you're saying these three go together.

I wouldn't put job training with that necessarily, but equitable transport uh transparent budget and communication with budget revenue and outlays.

Yeah.

Okay.

There is more than one job training, right?

Yeah.

This one good point.

Yep.

That sounds good.

You could put accountability with budget, maybe, but that could go to any one of them, I suppose.

Who wrote accountability?

What did you mean by that?

I did.

I was just, I was just thinking everywhere.

Nobody wants to be accountable.

You could put it with public works.

You could put it with we make a budget, but do we ever look at it and be accountable for what we wrote on paper?

So I pretty much meant individual people, no matter where they're what they're doing.

Or is it go in a category?

No, it might be overall.

Every everyone should be accountable.

I mean, right behind you though.

Ongoing tracking of progress to address survey of community needs.

Those two sort of I don't know who wrote that one.

I wrote it, and yes, they go together.

Okay.

It sounded.

Thank you for confirming.

Um let's see.

So ongoing tracking, a progress to address survey of community needs, accountability.

Does outreach to all go there, or is that a different category?

What about matching haves and needs?

I again I didn't comment on that, but they seem like there might be an overlap.

Or I didn't write those ones.

Apologies.

Who wrote matching haves and needs?

But I did.

Sorry.

Accountability.

No, I well, I was thinking that a lot of times we have people that need something, and we have people with skills, or we have money for this and we have people who need that.

We can't get them together.

Hmm.

So I don't know what you want to outreach to all.

Is it part of this?

Or maybe even with the training and the is it?

Okay.

Oh, with like the job training, maybe even something like that in community gardens.

Like you have people with skills and people with needs, and we don't seem to match them very well.

Where's the fourth one?

It's kind of closest to your hand.

So this one.

This one.

Great.

All right.

Let's start to kind of.

So do we agree that this this is kind of these kind of go together here?

This is the business one.

Cover them up.

We have this category here.

Oops.

I know.

Two more.

This one, equal, equitable.

Transparent.

Jobs training.

I don't know if you can see those, but usually we do it on a big wall, right?

All right.

So we have some left.

Do you see some overlaps over here?

Collaboration on transportation.

Red light traffic enforcement.

Polite responsiveness, accessible, accountability, ongoing tracking of progress.

Oh, we said this one was a category, right?

And was it all three of these?

Or just these two?

Megan, what do you think?

Well, what do you think?

Just think, what do you think?

Do these do these three go together, or is it just these two?

I mean, I would say that outreach to all seems separate and by itself and serving the needs of community.

I don't think any of them go together.

I think they're all different.

I think they're all different.

What do you guys think?

Ray, what about you?

What's trying to be said here?

I was okay putting a count.

So I wrote ongoing tracking of progress versus the community community needs.

So part one is what is the community asking for?

Part two is how do you track your progress towards addressing their needs?

That's how I explain what I wrote.

So in order to get input from the community, don't you need good outreach though?

Absolutely.

Now, Megan, you weren't you weren't in agreement with that.

Well, now that I have a clear explanation of what of what Ray meant by surveying the needs of the community, but to clarify outreach to all and accountability, that was not you, was it, Ray?

Did you write this one?

No, who wrote it?

No, I did.

I thought it was Diane.

I put I put outreach doll because so many times we have programs, but nobody knows about them.

Right.

And so I was thinking we need more outreach.

If we have XYZ, people need to know XYZ exists or how are they gonna get use them?

So this almost sounds like a kind of customer service ethos.

You want people who who solicit your needs, who are accountable, that are polite and responsive.

You know, that these are all kinds of um qualities that you want from your government, maybe.

Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

What if that section was really communication and accountability?

Huh?

Communication and accountability.

So it's a kind of like what you'd like to name.

Yeah, to doubt to because I hear a lot of tracking of data to be able to assess what you what you intended to do was what you did, which is also accountability in a number of ways.

If I said I was gonna do this, did I do it or did I do something opposite to it?

And then how do you communicate the whole way through from start to finish?

And did I engage people in a an appropriate way in a complete way in the very beginning to get the result we wanted?

That's right, it's very good.

That makes sense to me.

Um Megan, how do you feel though?

Because you initially you thought they were separate, but to me it makes sense, but I'm curious what you think.

Yeah, when Diane was speaking about outreach to all, it made me think of the ways in which we communicate is what is what I was hearing as well.

So I I think that makes sense.

It's not necessarily that we're not getting the message out.

It might be the method in which we are getting the message out, which is um where we fall short.

It also might be the timing of some of the programs that we offer, and maybe that's not time that works for the folks that we're targeting.

They have, you know, to cook the dinner.

But really thinking this part through before you do anything else.

So what about these?

We have lead light red light, traffic enforcement, accessible and compulsory mental health and substance abuse treatment, and this estate and collaboration on transportation.

Are those so the far right one I wrote?

I'm actually, okay to move it under public works.

Why is that?

Because I think and hope our cities and streets and roadways and bikeways and spec to trails all fall under them.

Maybe a little bit hard.

Okay.

And so we'd love to see them uh collaborate more because some of it's gonna cross jurisdictions, not just with an unincorporated, and also would love to see it holistically addressed as opposed to a street here, a sidewalk there, holistically project here.

That's good.

And what about these?

Access accessible and compulsory mental health and substance abuse treatment.

Does that go with anything else?

Or are these uh then on their own?

What do you think?

Well, I wrote um accessible and compulsory mental health and substance use treatment, and that don't that obviously is, you know.

I'm sure you can fix it really quickly.

I'm sure there's a lot of people.

There's a lot of people in the community who would agree with you.

Yeah.

So I don't know whether that's the expansion of our LPS conservatorships and getting more public guardians and just focusing there or you know, working with the legislature uh in the state to work on, you know, definitions in the statute that's buying gravely disabled.

Um but I would love to see some movement there.

All right.

Well, it sounds like it stands on its own.

Okay.

And what about traffic enforcement?

Who does traffic enforcement?

The sheriff over here does traffic enforcement.

So I don't know if that's maybe it's by it for a maybe with street lights and pedestrian light crossing.

Um it's work that's already being done that I'm just emphasizing a point on.

I imagine.

It needs to have more enforcement.

So, so it kind of goes with this street light, pedestrian light cross, this one.

Sure.

So it's I think that's fine.

It's kind of this is not just public works, this is also traffic enforcement.

Okay, maybe we could separate those into two categories.

But I wanna can I just make a point so I can.

Please go ahead.

Oak off here.

In our community, I think it is um sheriff, but I think it's also CHP.

Mm-hmm.

From a road traffic standpoint.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I'm sure they collaborate.

It would be nice to see how and how we can support them more going forward.

Because I think that's enforcement versus infrastructure.

I just wanted to call that out.

Right.

So I I this is about infrastructure.

This is about enforcement.

I hear you saying that this is about street light, pedestrian safety, this is about enforcement, right?

That's correct.

I mean, yeah.

Moving to the area, I just I'm like, oh, this is a thing here where you people just ignore the red light.

I think okay.

And sometimes you see uh a share around, and it's like, is anybody gonna do anything about that?

Or we're right, it's just the the culture now.

Um, so if you were going to give this, uh just like we've given this category a name, communications and accountability, what name would you give to this?

What is this about?

Business incentives and revitalization, actionable plan, economic development, outreach incentives.

What would you just call this overall category?

Economic economic development.

All right.

Uh if I may, I just didn't get to make my comment earlier.

And what I had wanted to propose actually is that I see a little bit of common or a little bit of common thread between the health ex and mental health um accessibility, also with like matching haves and needs.

Um, if we wanted to possibly at least put them closer together because we're talking about um putting people with the resources that they need to be successful, and so whether that's training them, whether that's giving them access to grow their own food or giving them services to then, you know, be able to get the wraparound services they need for mental health.

Um, there might be some common thread there.

I would agree that there are some common threads, but I do want to emphasize that this is I think making an ask for something that per service that likely is not currently happening.

Adequately.

So you're specifically talking about mental health.

And I so I think in that in that sense, I think we should leave it by itself because it's too contrived then.

Okay, so when it came to the public works, um, I was thinking it might be better to split this into two.

One is about public works, and the other was about traffic safety.

Does that make sense?

So we can get another one here.

You got it.

Okay.

All right.

And what about this category?

Equitable, transparent budget communication, integration and distribution, budget revenues versus outlays, real time and historical.

What would you call this?

These two.

What are you getting at here?

It seems like accountability to me to our elected officials and to the process that we have.

But you would call this one accountability.

I I think there's more than that though, because we have the budget meetings.

They're not accessible.

They're not an opportunity for the community to really be involved even when you attend, it doesn't get integrated.

We don't see how the funds are distributed.

We've already heard public comment today about questioning that distribution from an equity standpoint.

I would say the roll-up's too great.

We see the line the roll up of the budget, like so you have all the line items of where the money is allocated.

I mean the c big county budget.

Correct.

Big county budget.

But but what it what are we as individuals getting?

So are you talking about the uh unincorporated areas?

Yes.

So maybe it's unincorporated accountability.

But specifically as it relates to funds, ground budget.

So maybe it's unincorporated area budget accountability.

Is that good?

Or no, too wordy.

Not getting I'm okay with words.

But but also wanting to see impact to that.

Um but uh th there's a lot that I could say around this.

Uh Ray, feel free, because I wasn't the only one who wrote that.

I I like impact, right?

I like um.

It's where the rubber meets the road.

Um is okay, it's sorry.

It's the is the reason government exists, actually, to serve to serve people.

So, is it about transparency?

Is it about inclusion?

Is it about maybe representation representation?

It's going with representation.

Representation.

Financial representation.

Yeah.

So unincorporated area budget representation.

Budget accountability and representation.

Accountability and representation.

Is that maybe comfortable with that?

Yes.

Right.

And this one we have communication and what does that say?

Accounting.

Accountability, sorry.

And then this one is mental health, right?

This one will be mental health.

All right.

So if we did we skip job training.

Yes, this one.

What is it?

What is this one called?

Job training programs and community development programs, community gardens, expanded clinics, prescription subsidies, salvation army with housing and job training, matching halves and needs.

What is that about?

So I wrote the Salvation Army one because uh there's a salvation army in San Jose where I do thrift store shopping sometimes, and it's right next to their core of housing, and it's employed, you know, or sorry, it's staffed by the people who work in the core and they take the donations.

And I was checking out recently, and I just remember the the lady checking out, and she was telling me, you know, the salvation army really changed my life, and it helped me, you know, get a job after I got out of prison.

And I think I read also recently that they opened up a salvation army inside a prison or something like that.

Maybe it was a goodwill.

But it just seems like that's a model that I feel like our community could potentially benefit from, also, and they're closing all of the goodwills everywhere, except we've got the one at the greenhouse and the one that used to be on Hesperian across from the Home Depot, and I would love another thrift store here, selfishly, but also why not help people and do that.

But it sounds like uh the integration of job training, housing, and a job, training, housing, and a job.

Like it's integrated and integrated program.

Is that what you mean?

Yes, yes, and I'm so about the youth job core also.

That's another one that they do for younger, you know, for the youth, obviously.

We want to see more programs that uh uh approach training someone, helping them with their housing needs, helping them find the job.

Yeah, and giving them a skill set.

So is it wrap?

It's not really wraparound services.

But I don't know if that's yeah, I had community services, integrated, comprehensive.

Well, we'll figure it out.

We'll know what you mean.

You can write comprehensive and integrated in there over here, and we'll figure that one out.

Comprehensive integrated services.

Megan, thank you for right.

Sorry, comprehensive integrated services or maybe comprehensive integrated community services, comprehensive integrated community services services.

Is that good for this category?

Ray, we're gonna say something.

I think so.

I was just gonna thank Megan for writing housing.

Do you want can housing be part of the headline, or the way you're thinking about it?

Is it just one of many services?

It's all part of the model.

Um, they provide housing, they provide job training, and they provide work for them to do, and believe there's educational opportunities as well while they're living there, so it can really help.

It's really like a wraparound, maybe wrap around.

Yeah, just just so when we're thinking going back and working with it, well, trying to understand what you mean.

Sure, it really is this integrated program of dealing with the whole person, the whole person's needs, the whole family's needs, okay.

So, this is an interesting mix of things.

Um, if you, this is the third question here.

If the board of supervisors was standing right here right now, based on what you've been discussing and what you've put up here, thinking about the macro issues as well as the micro issues here.

What is the message?

What is the message that you would want to send to them?

What would you say to them right now?

You know, supervisors.

We had this meeting, and on behalf of our Mac, what we're saying to you is we need what?

What is it we're trying to say to convey to them about what this community needs?

What this is probably way too general.

But I would say you need the community needs to be respected, and to be recognized as a community that wants to be together, wants to take care of each other, wants to have the people who can provide for others do so and have the people who need things be able to receive what they need, and you guys got the money.

We need the programs and the people to be responsible for providing that to us.

So it sounds like what you're saying, it's not happening the way it should.

People want respect, they need services, they want to live happen happy, healthy lives.

You guys can help provide that.

What's and you're it's like what you're trying to get is that there's something that connection is missing.

Is that what you're getting at?

I probably am, but if you ask me what that connection is, I'm not sure.

I think it's so hard, not easy to identify.

Well, I mean, you've talked about it here.

It's is it customer service?

Is it getting the right input?

Is it having the community at the center of the conversation?

Is it about accountability in that conversation?

We have the community that wants to live a happy life, and with the services that they need to be able to do that, the county, the government has the ability to provide some of those things, and what we want is to work together to achieve that, right?

We want to work together to achieve that.

And so, in order to do that, we need respect.

Go ahead, Megan.

Um, I would first probably say thank you.

Um, or I think there is a lot of great work that they're doing.

Um, and when you gave us this exercise, I thought of honestly many things that I love about this community and I'm grateful for as well.

Um, and it was hard to to think about these other items, but I think most likely because we're facing a budgetary cliff, um, and there are so many needs, I would say, or suggest that the board prioritize the basics that serve the most people and to focus on doing those very, very well within the budgetary environment that we're all going to be looking at currently and in the imminent um future.

So whether that be, you know, housing, safety, public safety, um, homelessness, and maybe I don't know, access to health care, like do those basics well and provide for your community in the strongest ways, and then try to address the other stuff when possible in the best way that you can, but just focus on basics.

You're talking about, but focus on basic services.

Do you have anything to say about how the county goes about involving the community in that process of providing those services?

I am less familiar with how the services are provided.

I am not a high utilizer, I believe, of the services myself, so I would rely on others for input.

Um, but so I don't I don't want to speak to something that I'm not well at.

No, that's fair enough.

And I don't want to put words in your mouth either.

It's like I'm I know that we want to do be a county that has continuous improvement, and that we want to be a county that is accountable to the unincorporated area to which we have a municipal responsibility, um, I'm sure that there is room for improvement.

These are getting at the things that there can be improvement upon.

And so, you know, if there's a sentence or two, I mean, we've we've, you know, this is being recorded and we've heard what you had to say.

You know, we can try to convey, you know, what you said, but I think if there is a a core message to the board from the emac, you know, that's what I would like, you know, to hear.

If you have any other suggestions, otherwise we can go to the next part of the meeting.

Oh, I have so many.

I've been taking notes.

Okay, all right.

Let's hear it.

Uh okay, so you asked a question, and some of what I have to say is in line with what others have said, and some of it's different.

So, first, uh, I would want to say we know that you're trying really hard, and I'm sure a lot of what we're saying is a pain point, are already things that you're actively working on, okay?

I acknowledge that.

Second, we need you to listen and be our voices.

Third, is we need economic development in our community, and we need social wraparound services to support that.

And then fourth is while we need to survive and we want to survive, we also need to look forward to a future that helps us thrive.

So, how do we do both?

And maybe it's one and then the next.

Because you talked about asking how people learn about these resources.

My insight into that, because I have seen people utilize them, is you learn through your community.

There are access points where the information's available, but more often than not, you're telling a friend, I need help.

How does that friend know?

And maybe you get the wrong information from those services sometimes.

They might be very well intended.

We all make mistakes, we're all sometimes not as informed in certain areas, and so how do we foster that community so that these resources that we grow form like seeds and create beautiful gardens?

So you're talking also about communication and information and public service, yes, okay.

All right, do you have anything more that you want to add to that?

Ray, yeah.

Um I'll focus on what hasn't been said, which is I don't think incremental changes are going to get the community where it needs to be.

I think what's gotten us here thus far has been appreciated, as some have mentioned, but it's it there has to be more.

I would I would actually go a step further and say a pretty pretty radical change, um, in terms of so one is gathering input, but the second is it's almost like the structures that the the environment that we're in, right?

Because even how you prefaced, I think it was the first question of within the board of within the county's control.

I know school districts aren't within their control.

I know hard isn't within their control necessarily, but for us in the community, it's all one in the same, right?

It's our local government representatives, and we've dealt with top-down mandates, for example, with the housing element from the state.

It's okay to flip the script and ask for help from the state in terms of how we're set up today in delivering services, and again, doing it holistically so that at least for the urban areas, it's not you know, public safety.

Do I go to CHP or is it the sheriff?

Public works.

Is it public works or is it hard, right?

There's a lot of those examples, including with communities community needs and wraparound services.

We have a very good nonprofit um community that I've seen and heard as I've come to just learn more about our community, but for example, with disaster preparedness, I don't think a lot of that is coordinated within our local government.

I think that's also pretty fragmented, and it just hasn't shown up yet because we haven't had a big earthquake, we haven't had a big fire, we haven't had a big fill in the blank, but a lot of this will get exposed if we stay fractured in the good times because hardship is coming, and it's just a matter of when, not if.

So it sounds like you're talking about collaboration within the county agencies and outside the other public agencies, deep listening with the community, and no wrong door because it's our seamless approach.

Like if you call hard about social services, they don't do social services, but they should know who you should call, for example.

So that's kind of what you're saying.

Yeah, and again, through all of this, our communities, a lot of that some of them are majority not English speaking, so that has to remain top of mind, more so than it has been from what I've seen up until now.

Okay, all right.

So you should see three dots on a little piece of paper there.

And what I'd like you to do is to come up and place these dots not on the individual thing that you wrote, but on the big category, and uh about which three are sort of get your top priority.

Now you can spend it like it was dollars.

So if you think mental health is really top of your list, you could put all three dots here, or you could put one dot here and two dots there, right?

So I want you to think about it because the categories are economic development, improving public works, working on this traffic safety, unincorporated area, accountability, and representative around the budget comprehensive integrated services and wraparound services for people communication and accountability just kind of seems conceptual I think and then mental health over here so take a second and come and spend your spend your dot money on the category not on the Elm all right let's see we have three on economic development two on public works none on traffic safety one on unincorporated area accountability budget um comprehensive integrated service wraparound services got three communication accountability got two and mental health got one so what what do you what does that say to you it's varied it's what it's varied it's varied hmm okay um we're behind and people are getting left behind and we need to bring them along and bring our community along um it's interesting that economic development got three and wraparound services got three that though those got the most that's really speaking you know that people need jobs and work and finances and they need support you know and jobs so that comes but otherwise I would say it's pretty evenly across the board all things considered you only add three dots you know that almost everything you know got something so um that's the end of this exercise we're going to take all this information and we're gonna compile it and we're gonna give it back to you and it's also going to be integrated with the other information we get from the other meetings that we have and then there'll be a presentation and recommendations at the big Mac I'm sorry all Mac Big Mac is just so cute.

Unincorporated services meeting on December third so with that I'll hand it back to you Diane.

All right I think I think at this point we'll take some public comment and see how the rest of you are reacting to what we just finished doing.

Did you have any like speakers with speaker cards already okay well we'll open public comment and then we'll get a couple those speakers and then we'll go from there Michael Moore when will the public be able to comment?

Right now.

Okay.

I thought I heard you say that you were going to open it up before the Mac started the the big Mac.

This is the public comment, and please speak into the microphone.

Okay.

I thought the exercise was terrific.

And it made me think about America's founders.

In 1752.

And what they were fighting for was their own version of independence, but they didn't have a clue about what it was.

What they were sure of was that they had to fight.

And at the end of it all, with the founding of the United States, less than 50% were happy with each other.

And the solution was to go to another place rather than have to settle with your neighbors.

And I think we're at that place right now.

Um I I agree with everything that we've all said here, and there's not enough money to do it all.

What we have to do is to operate this much like our ancestors did when they were stuck.

Which thing is it that we're going to do?

And I think that we would have to be honest and say you can't do all.

Our members represent working class families in the Eden area, and we build our power towards a thriving and accountable Alameda County.

A lot of us testified at the supervisors today to advocate for immigrant services.

So they couldn't make it tonight, so you have me.

This past May we released the Fair Share report that raised a number of concerns of the unincorporated uh budget management, transparency, and unaccounted funds over the past 21 years.

I think we all agree there needs to be a better transparent process for unincorporated area management.

We fully support a budget input process, and we are proud to co-host the budget town hall.

Our members weighed in familiar themes in that town hall, improvement to public works projects, more accessible resources for peer-based mental health services, and to fully fund our tenant housing programs.

Tonight I want to uplift three key housing priorities brought on by our tenant members because we're at a critical time to make homeless prevention work where our area has three of the top ten highest eviction rates in Alameda County.

First, we're requesting a need for housing counselors to be part of the county's mediation program.

This mediation program simply does not work for everyday people.

Our staff has spent over 50 volunteer hours helping to navigate families losing their homes, and we really need dedicated housing counselors to make this mediation program work.

Second, a rent review board is needed because currently the way to enforce local eviction protections is through the legal court process, which our families cannot afford either.

Third, our last critical ask is the support gap funding for community owned land.

There are over 17 mobile home parks in the area with 700 families at risk of being homelessness.

Mobile home tenants in Ashland and Castro Valley face multiple eviction notices and they express a willingness to support or explore alternative options to directly purchase the land they rent because recently a lot of their land just got turned over to uh speculative developers.

So to our knowledge, I mean, you know, there's no annual platform right now where as residents can directly weigh in on these investments with the county agencies, particularly with housing, and we hope to continue to work with you all to share critical needs of our uh neighborhoods and support better on incorporated management.

Um I did uh really appreciate the like macro level um values for housing, but I was also a little bit concerned that when we put local issues on housing, it didn't really uh um strike to me as a priority.

So, you know, we're we're definitely open to uh collaborate and continue um share a lot of um our data that we're finding in the community.

We're really on the front lines of being with a lot of uh different community members, uh Spanish speaking members, and you know, uh that we hear every day from Ashton to Cherry Land.

Um I did want to leave with you all an addendum because as you know, Measure W is in the discussion as well.

So we we put out our list of our most priority needs so uh as far a reference and some of our priorities are listed here.

So thank you for allowing me to share tonight.

Kelly Apero.

Yeah.

This uh this Mac has got some of the least influence of any of the the groups around.

And uh what I've what I've seen in the in the areas in the areas and subjects and topics that where they do have influence and uh wield a lot of power.

One of them, for example, is something called the permit streamlining, where there's this uh they have a simple message, it sounds very clear, very simple.

I'm not gonna say if I'm for it or against it, but uh, and they they bring in actually high-paid consultants, paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop the message to to, you know, and and uh and and and uh cloak it in the in the uh in the guise of you know uh business efficiency and modern management and all these advanced uh concepts that uh that no one can argue against because it sounds very sophisticated, comes straight from you know, advanced business schools and professors and high paid consultants.

And then uh as an example of how the county operates with you know, you you guys never see you guys never see the uh you guys never see uh get any help from you know county county officials or staff or whatever.

But when uh an applicant does have a permit that they want to get uh done, the I saw where uh one example here of a well connected applicant.

They got the chief of staff for a county supervisor to write a nice letter to the city and tell the city uh, you know, uh permitting office, oh, here is uh the uh the uh uh top staffer for the applicant.

Of course, the applicant is not writing uh him or herself, it's the it's their uh uh uh secretary or administrative assistant, whatever they call themselves, and uh they've got all the whatever some kind of application they want, some kind of uh service, and uh they they asked for it from the county, and now the they don't want to have to go and dirty their hands and go ask for it from the city, so they have the chief of staff for the county go do it for them.

Um, you know, this kind of clarity, this kind of power, this kind of uh uh bending over backwards to do what the customer wants.

Uh, you're never gonna get that.

Uh it'll be nice.

Uh, but just so you know what you're missing out on, it's nice when when you've got the county working for you and listening to you.

It would be really nice.

Caller, you're on the line.

You'll have three minutes.

Caller, Zoom, you'll have three minutes to speak.

Hi, good.

Good afternoon, my name is Teresita, and I've powered in the community.

I'll choose the safe part, jump programmed, and after the libraries, those therapies are often under communities.

That's what is so important, the unincorporated areas budget proceeds continuity.

And that in the office or unincorporated communities be created to ensure that need in our families and the Jill are represented and then found it.

Thank you.

No more speakers.

Okay, so we'll close public comment.

This item says it's an action item, but it's my understanding that we can we don't have to make a decision on it, but if we want to discuss a little bit more and make any kind of um a firm recommendation to the board of supervisors, or I'm gonna say the county, but the board of supervisors regarding um maybe where we would like their focus to be or something like that, um, that we can make such a motion at this time, but it's not like we have to say yes or no to something.

So is there any other um you know, some comments or discussion amongst us, the council members?

I definitely think that's ahead, Taylor.

Um, so first, Claudia, I wanted to say thank you so much for being here and for going through the exercise.

Um, I know that you had the charrette earlier last month, and I did attend one of those.

I thought it was really well structured, it's very collaborative, and we talked a lot about communication.

You're embracing that.

So I really want to thank you for that.

It was also interesting to see how that feedback contrasts.

So I have you know faith that there's a lot of diversity of feedback there.

Um, and that's great to have that.

My question, I actually have two questions for you.

Is how have you seen in your visibility the budget in other counties or states be changed?

Because we talked about this is gonna kind of be gathered at some point and hopefully go off to a messaging for the budget.

Um how does it contrast to other counties?

How it contrasts to other counties as part of research that's happening right now.

So I don't have an answer for you, but I do know I can say that the things that you say are your priorities or the things that you've lifted up as part of this process, um, are things that could and do have budget implications.

For example, you know, just for example, in other venues, they've talked about code enforcement, for example, not being sufficient, you know.

So maybe that's a budgetary issue around more quote enforcement officers.

Um, you know, maybe if there isn't communication, if this is an issue for you, for example, this might speak to how there needs to be a more customer service focus in the county, and maybe it's less about budget, but more about training and management, you know.

So I would say that what you've come up tonight does have implications for the budget for your communities that you represent, but for the unincorporated area as a whole, when we bring it back, and and that we're hoping to make recommendations about how this does implicate the budget.

So at the moment, there is no budget input process for the unincorporated area.

We're piloting a way that maybe it could be done so that year after year you can give input and then you can give feedback to see if things had changed.

I mean, if you came up with this every year and you didn't see any change, um, clearly nobody's listening to you.

But if if you were coming up with input and you did see changes made, then you know that you're being heard and that things within the county are changing.

So I would urge you to um say something about what you've come up with tonight as an expression of your collective experience.

Okay, that that's that's really a helpful comment and insight.

Um, the additional support that came with the agenda was um really uh gave additional context, I guess, into this long effort that has been made by the supervisors.

So I appreciate that.

The part that um me as a citizen personally that I'm finding hard to bridge, and I suspect others maybe too, is we know there's a core problem.

What is this going to do to address that gap?

And I know you've just shared some of that here, but it might be helpful to hear that from the supervisors too, because I hear a lot about people saying, Well, where's our money going and why isn't it at the unincorporated level?

We've identified areas that it needs to be addressed, but what are these efforts today doing to have a faster immediate impact tomorrow?

We can't wait 15 years.

So this is our attempt to affect that process.

We want to be able to say we've talked to people in the rural communities, the urban unincorporated communities, they've lifted up these issues.

These are the things that they say are priorities for them.

Here are the areas that we need to see change.

Here's the budget implications.

Here's how we want to move forward.

So I can't speak to what the recommendations will be, but I can speak to this as being integral to our attempt to get the county to change, to get the agencies to have a different kind of relationship with the unincorporated area and the county as a whole to place the needs of the unincorporated area higher up on its list of priorities.

Fantastic.

And I do I do think that's the case.

So I'm I'm really glad you're here and happy that you're doing that.

I just please share that sentiment because I think that gap is something that people don't see.

So addressing it, this is what we're doing.

And this is trying to identify the gap, right?

As obscure as these comments may seem to you, these are helping us say what it is you you want to see in your government, not only in terms of your budget, but in an ethos and a customer services, a customer service way of being.

We want to be treated, you said it, Diane, you said we want to be treated with dignity and respect.

But but in a faster way, too.

I mean, the current budget process is not transparent.

There's no notice given to people.

Um I I was a part of that appointment even and didn't know when the meeting was going to happen until 24 hours before it during the business that day.

So, how are we supposed to be involved?

Anyway, I'll let the rest of the council talk.

And I think you know, that that comment comes out within these communication and accountability and transparency and dignity and respect and timing.

It's surface and superficial right now.

We need to get past that.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Megan, yep.

Anything I don't want to force you, but I just don't want to skip you.

Um, no, I do appreciate um being part of the exercise.

Um I was not as surprised with the lack of transparency and the great need that is being expressed tonight regarding the budget process.

I can generally say that when I moved to the area, it was difficult to find out about anything local that was happening.

Um I work in the county that's to the south of us, and it's a completely different um completely different environment.

Information is readily accessible, even finding the link to watch this meeting is not easy, it's like embedded deeply in places, and I don't know why it's so hard.

So I'm glad to hear that there is um a spotlight on this.

I'm glad to hear that our unincorporated area is, you know, is able to to voice the needs of our community.

I think that there are probably more in different ways that we could voice the needs of our community also, other than doing this type of exercise.

Um, but this has been great.

So I look forward to seeing real progress shortly.

Great.

Um Claudia, a question and then I'll I'll make my statement.

When might these change when, regardless of what changes are made, when will they take effect?

I think we're hoping 2027.

Okay.

So we're right now, are we in 2025-2026 budget year?

So I think next year we have to affect the budget.

We have to see if we can make um some administrative changes within the how the county administers the unincorporated area.

That hasn't been addressed by the board or voted upon.

And if it you know goes according to you know our timeline, it would be about 2027, because there is a process this you know, the county's process is more cumbersome than it should be, but we're trying to fit our process into their process so that we can move, and we've been making progress and we're moving forward.

And I appreciate your expectation setting.

Let me just make sure.

Are you talking about 2728 budget year or 25?

Okay.

26, 27.

So, but actually, implementation wouldn't really start till 2728.

Okay.

So about two years from now.

Okay.

So thank you for answering my question.

Right, but in the meantime, there's budget allocations that have to be made.

There's, you know, uh all kinds of implications from the administrative side of things.

Got it.

It's not a surprise that it's gonna take time, um, especially if we're gonna do it the right way.

Uh, so thank you for.

Right.

And you know, it's not a done deal.

We need your advocacy.

I mean, I'm speaking from Supervisor Miley's office.

You know, this is this is something we're attempting to change by engaging the community and getting information and fostering a process, but it's not like the Board of Supervisors had has voted on anything yet.

I mean, there are some very encouraging signs.

For example, uh, just was it this week or last week, the transportation and planning committee of the board, Supervisor Halbert and Miley, move forward the idea of forming an office of unincorporated communities.

Now that hasn't been voted on or budgeted or anything, but it's moving forward.

That's a very important component in having a budget input process and having a central administrative point for the unincorporated communities.

So, because this will take time, um, my my suggestion, my request, my recommendation is especially when you look at for example, the three the two or three areas we've prioritized as top and maybe second and maybe third.

I would love to see this modeled out.

And what I mean by that is if economic development is the top priority for this community along with the wraparound services.

What has been spent, for example, in the current year that we're in, and then let's go backwards and let's see relative to it being our top priority now.

I'd love to see, you know, was it third, fourth, fifth, sixth, at the bottom of the list of priorities compared to say traffic safety being at the top of the list, and I think that'll at least start to make this a little bit more real, knowing that we have to wait for at least two years to see some of these changes take effect to see where we might have underinvested historically.

I would really encourage you to attend the Big Mac meeting, the joint Big Mac Unincorporated Services meeting on December 3rd, because it's where all the Macs and the SONOL advisory council will come together with the supervisors Tam and Miley to discuss the findings and the next steps.

And this is exactly the kind of input that your fellow council members need to hear from all the other MACs and the supervisors themselves.

So we will do our part to present this and make recommendations about what the next steps are, but without your advocacy, and making suggestions exactly like that.

Um it's not going to have the broad base of support.

And maybe I misunderstood the instructions.

Isn't that what you wanted us to give in terms of a closing thought or comment?

Yes.

Yes, I would love for you to make a motion in some way, shape, or form that's what you did tonight as a board.

Yes.

Got it.

Yeah.

I'd be supportive of that.

I mean, it would be really helpful.

Obviously, what we've created here today may not be the overarching outcome.

That's fine.

But we're coming together with a community budget and a community thought.

How does that reflect the past?

And then we can hopefully look forward and see what are our representatives doing to change that.

So it's a recommendation based on Ray.

Do you want me to repeat?

No, no.

Thank you.

Go ahead.

Diane and Megan, what do you guys think about that being a potential resolution or something else?

Well, I was hoping somebody could put some thoughts together into a resolution because my thinking is it's kind of along the same line as of yours is come and see us.

Don't look at, don't sit in an office with numbers in front of you in a spreadsheet and a Google map.

You know, don't make any decisions unless you come here and walk through our streets and look in our stores and talk to our people and see us.

And I don't know how you how you can mandate that, but I think your idea about well, let's look back at some data and how much have we spent, you know, on which items over time, and if things improved or not, or have we, you know, totally cross some things off of the budget and just stop doing them, who knows?

Um, so that makes sense.

But um, if you guys can come up with some motion, but um that makes them that I ask the camp.

Can I sure make a suggestion?

Maybe you can move that these categories and the items under them are priorities, are items of concern for the EMAC, and that you know, we move them forward in the budget input process and look forward to um the outcomes and recommendations at the all Mac unincorporated services meeting that this is an expression of your concerns.

Something is even as general as that.

And you will have pictures of all this.

Yes, okay, and you could say, you know, that economic development, public works, traffic safety, the budget accountability, uh up-round services, communication accountability, and mental health are top concerns for our Mac, representing our community, the items underneath them are more specific, and that we want to put them forward in the budget process, something as simple as that, make it clear for the clerk.

Did you get it, clerk?

Yeah, okay.

So let's see.

What are you thinking?

Um the items listed and voted on, in terms of economic development, integrated services wrap around, integrated wraparound services, public works, communication and accountability.

And by the way, please list these in order.

I I moved that.

I move that.

The issues of economic development.

Um, integrated wraparound services, communication and accountability, public works, budget representation, and mental health are representative of the Eden Max top issues and concerns.

We didn't vote for traffic safety.

Okay, is there um either a second to that, or do you have an amendment to that?

I have a few amendments if you will accept them.

So my suggestion might be that we revise the recommendation to include all categories and perhaps just say with highest priority to the ones perhaps that we identified as the top three or whatever, um that they be integrated into the budget process consideration, and that we uh recommend that uh a look back of prior um payments to those areas also be provided at some point in time.

I second the amended motion.

Okay, which is I'm in agreement with it.

So who who made the motion?

Uh Ray or Taylor.

Ray made a motion, Taylor amended the motion and Megan.

Um seconded the amended motion.

How's that?

Can you read it back?

I will go back to the recording and get it word per veto.

Okay, let me give you my understanding is we made a motion to include all of our categories on the board that they be integrated into the budget considerations.

Um in addition that we get some data on past budgets for comparison purposes, but we did also talk about prioritization, so we said that these are all important attributes or top topics that should be integrated into the budget with priority given, and then that would be the same order of economic development, comprehensive integrated services wraparound, because those are our top, those are our three ones, then uh three votes, that is, then communication and accountability, uh representation of the for the unincorporated area for the budget process and accountability, then there's public works, uh mental health, followed by traffic safety.

So Nida will have to take the motion how you guys made it.

So, okay.

Um if this is becoming too complicated, an alternative approach, Ray, if you will so oblige me, could be perhaps that we say we we recommend that the supervisors uh prioritize these topics in this order, and then the order is just listed in the order that we voted on them with then uh insight into prior spending for historical reference.

That works, does that work?

I don't you had a motion, you had an amendment, you had a second to the amendment, the amendment was accepted, but now we're rewording the motion, we're rewording it because we were told it wasn't clear.

So I think it before you and Diane went back.

I think it was clear because we're gonna listen to the recording.

So if you want to take away that motion completely and start all over, that's an option.

But you had a motion, you had an amendment, you had a second, you accepted the amendment, and that was done.

So we need a roll call vote, but now we have now there's a substitute motion, Ashley.

Okay, so if we do a roll call vote and we vote no on this, or you could just say that you have a substitute motion, Diane.

Oh sorry, Tony, I didn't see you up there.

That's okay.

I'm sorry too.

Um you're making a substitute motion, okay, and then we can just do that without without doing a roll call vote on the prior one.

We make a substitute motion, right is that what you're saying Tona yes okay I think so all right um substitute motion I believe it's what you just said I only reset it because the repeat was not what I initially said um but okay substitute motion is perfectly fine if both or if everyone is comfortable with that proposal who initially motioned it so I think provide a second for your substitute motion and then that could go to roll call I think I second the substitute motion I don't think you can second it because you first it will you just created the substitute motion yes Taylor I think yes Taylor just did the substitute motion so I'm the one motioning it now yeah okay yes and Ray seconded and my oh go second this is very confusing when I was just rephrasing I know it had been but the rephrase is the second is is the motion now on the floor your rephrasing when it was rephrased again but okay sure all right yay I think we know what we're voting on you so did Ray's second count for the substitute we're all good here if yeah are you okay with that you didn't we can do the roll call now yep okay okay council member aston nilsen aye council member maramahoko yes council member roll yes council member stanley excuse council member cushion excuse chair widler yes all right thank you all I think that was yes it was uh it was a good exercise and I think we probably learned a lot about each other and and about um the process let me see I think there's some other stuff on the on the agenda if I can find it I mean I think those are the major things but um proceeding we have a chair's report I'm I'm glad that we made it through all that um I don't have anything um else specific are there any other council announcements or comments or reports um yes I can send an email if I need to I've gotten an excused absence before in the past when I've had it to when I've had to miss an entire meeting is it possible to meet miss part of a meeting in the future do you just need to leave early either one will work I can either leave early or come late either one can work but I have a conflict right in the middle.

Uh why don't you send me and Tona an email and we'll talk offline thank you okay thank you Ashley uh any other council comments reports uh yeah sorry one more quick one let me be very quick this was about the Facebook there's a Facebook group that was mentioned last time for the Eden Mac I'm not aware of a group but there is a Facebook page for the Eden Mac.

Okay Facebook page is it public it is okay can you tell me the name one more time please I believe it's Eden area Mac um but let me look on Facebook okay Eden area Mac dot net is the page and it's also listed at the bottom of your agendas every month to forget thank you thank you so I pulled it up because when I when I entered it in last time there was a rec there was an option to request access it's Eden Area Municipal Advisory Council is the page.

For the Facebook page.

And is it publicly available?

Because I pulled it up last time.

I requested access.

It still says pending.

That is not a group that is a real one.

It's a public page.

There is no request access.

There is no group to join.

Nothing like that.

It's just a standard business page.

And we'll see that there's an opening for a Mac seat posted.

Eden area.

Municipal advisory council.

Okay, thank you.

But then all the meeting information and documents and all of that.

You have a separate location, which is Edenarea Mac.net.

It used to be Edenaria Mac.com and now it's Edenarea Mac.net.

And that's where the public can find all kinds of information related to the Mac.

And each Mac has their own page.

Okay.

Anybody else?

Uh I know that the last meeting, I think we had had some updates as it relates to translation possibility.

We might not have this currently.

That's for agendas specifically, just to see about accessibility so that we have the agenda rather reference to how someone can request translation services in multiple languages.

Doesn't have to be for now, but maybe in the future if we can have an update on where that progress is, that would be great.

Um, right now, hi, I'm Celine Huang, the district director with Supervisor Lena Tamps office.

As of right now, we're still doing research with Santa Clara County and also we recently met with San Francisco County regarding the language access ordinance.

Sorry, policy.

And uh we're still pursuing and doing research to do comparison and contrast us.

We do not have a language access unit or department with staffing, similar with what we're also encountering with the Office of Unequality Services.

So that would also take a bit of time, but we're look still working on it.

Hey, thank you, Celine.

Okay, anything else from us?

Um you staff announcements, comments or reports.

I think we just got one from Celine.

So this uh Saturday, uh October 18th, uh at 10 a.m.

we'll be having our uh emergency preparedness day, and we would love to have you all sign up.

If you have not, if you weren't able to sign up, please still do join.

The first 300 people will uh who join at least three workshops will receive an emergency preparedness kit.

And socially we have been encountering multiple earthquakes and aftershocks is highly highly recommended for people to join.

So it would be this Saturday, October 18th at 10 a.m.

at the San Leandro Public Main Library.

Okay, thank you.

Anything else, Tona?

Anything else?

Nothing else, thank you.

Okay.

All right.

Since we have no other business, unless there are any objections, uh, we will adjourn the meeting now at is that 8 37.

No, 8 39.

Okay.

I see no objections, so we are adjourned.

Thank you.