Good evening, everybody.

Welcome to the Fairview MAC meeting.

I'd like to call the meeting to order.

First item, we'll start off with the Pledge of Allegiance.

Please join and rise me the pledge.

Mr.

Higgins, will you lead us?

Thank you.

Can we get a roll call vote, please?

Roll call.

Councilmember Farmer, excuse.

Councilmember Higgins.

Councilmember Philbin.

Here.

Vice Chair Rhodes.

Here.

Chair Englin.

Here.

We have a quorum.

Thank you.

Next item is public announcements and open forum.

Do we have any speakers?

Officer Jen passed.

About now.

Yeah, there we go.

Okay, I'm just gonna hold it because I'm slightly taller than the average human.

Okay.

Happy New Year.

Welcome back.

It's nice to see you all.

Uh for December.

I just have some quick statistics.

Officer Barcini, who is on our special enforcement unit and assigned to the Fairview area, has been training our new officers.

So unfortunately, he hasn't been able to patrol as much as he normally does.

For December, we issued 22 traffic citations.

There were two non-injury crashes.

There were four injury crashes.

And we arrested two DUI drivers along with three misdemeanor other arrests.

We did not recover any stolen vehicles, but the sheriff's department may have some information on that as we work together on recovering stolen vehicles in the area.

For past events, we were at the Castor Valley tree lighting at the Castor Valley Village.

I think I saw some of you out there, where we had a chips for kids toy collection and a DUI booth.

And that was extremely impactful to the community because of the toys that we collected while at the booth.

We were able to redistribute them throughout our community as well as surprise a family close by in San Lorenzo.

Um our Christmas holiday enforcement period and our new year's maximum enforcement period, those two new periods was very successful in preventing any fatal traffic collisions.

We had a lot of officers out on patrol, focusing on in-view patrol and making sure that people were obeying the traffic laws and safely arriving at their destinations.

Some ongoing enforcement is we are continuing to partner with ACSO, San Leandro PD, and Hayward PD for the reset the regional side show enforcement task force, and that's continuing through 2026.

And it's been extremely instrumental in preventing side shows, especially in the Fairview community and any large-scale takeovers on the nights of enforcement.

For our ongoing traffic log, we have the Fairview Elementary School.

I was just up there today during when school was released, and we're continuing to patrol the area during drop-off and pickup as well as uh D Street.

I know it's an issue out there for speeding.

The new speed humps, I know that they're somewhat installed.

So hopefully once they're completely finished being painted, that'll help uh slow people down.

Upcoming events on February 6th, we have another CHP Academy graduation.

So we'll have seven new officers reporting to our office on February 16th.

And we're going to continue with routine patrol throughout the first quarter.

And our next maximum enforcement period, which it will be focusing on speed, is on April 28th.

And as always, I'm taking traffic complaints at the 345 reckless driving at chp.ca.gov, or you can call our office during normal business hours, 510-818-1500 to report a complaint and add it to our traffic complaint log.

And January 19th through the 23rd is Nash National Passenger Safety Week.

Our goal is to promote safe driving practices and prevent unsafe ones by empowering passengers to speak up when lives are in danger due to a reckless driver.

Thank you very much.

Have a good meeting.

Thank you.

Gary.

Yes, thank you.

Hi, I'm Gary Wolfe, and I'm here just to announce that I'm running for the position of the director of the East Bay Municipal Utility District because there are many issues of concern to the community where my skills and experience will help.

These issues include but aren't limited to affordability of water, truck traffic, and other work in our streets, getting more revenue from solar and wind and in-pipe hydroelectric, keeping parks and schools green during drought, and how to use water more efficiently or more than once.

I have 40 years of experience as a civil engineer and resource economist working on water-related issues and problems.

I hope that everyone will take a look at my website, Wolf4Water.org.

That's Wolf with two Fs.

Number four water.org.

Feel free to email me or call me with any questions or to discuss whether you want to support my campaign.

Several members of this committee have already endorsed me.

Thank you for that.

And I promise to listen and effectively represent you and the entire community on water-related issues.

I have some business cards with me that also contained contact information if anyone would like that.

And I'm happy to answer a question or two, factual question or two right now if there are any.

And of course, I will stay for the whole meeting in order to better understand the community and the issues that face it.

Thank you.

Vanya Taylor, are you speaking on?

So I'm Vanya Taylor.

I live in the Fairview area.

I have two questions that I want to know about.

I want to know how do we go about having the guidelines change that you cannot present and have something approved that's affecting the community as much in the same night.

So it would I would like that it's not that it's posted on the website that we know it's there, that it's actually presented to us as a community, and then we're given time to review it and give back our feedback before something is approved.

Because I don't think there's adequate time when things are being presented.

And I also have noticed over the last couple years, large things that affect us always come around a holiday where most people are traveling and they're not paying attention and they cannot have enough time to be able to review that.

And then also, too, I think there's something where something's posted on the website, that's the starting date of it, but again, not everybody goes there and is aware of that and can stay in touch with that.

That's why I think the presenting it at the meeting, the people can at least call in and listen and then have the time to feedback.

And my last thing is I had just found out that when we went to the Board of Supervisors, I can't remember what month it was last year.

We went to it, it was not clear to us that if we did not agree with what the supervisors proposed, that we had time to appeal their decision.

And I don't think that was communicated to us as a community.

You know, a lot of us don't know that.

I didn't know that because we could have done something.

So I think there needs to be better um communication and guidelines of what's next if you don't agree with something that's happened in the meeting.

Thank you.

Vanya, I'm Ashley from Supervisor Miley's office, and I will follow up with you.

The council can't respond since your questions weren't listed on the agenda.

I have no other speakers for public comment.

Nobody online.

No online speakers.

Okay.

We'll close public comment.

Thank you for coming and speaking up.

Um, next item.

We don't have minutes tonight for approval.

Hopefully, we can keep those flowing regularly after each meeting when we can remember them down the road.

Um, so we'll move on to item number one.

Annual update from the Alameda County Sheriff's Office.

I don't see Officer Cox.

So we'll welcome you up.

Thank you.

Good evening, everybody.

Can everybody hear me okay?

A little bit closer?

Is that a little bit better?

All right.

I might have to do like this kind of weird squat, but uh we'll we'll get through it.

Hold on.

Oh, okay.

There we go.

That's a little bit better.

Uh again, good evening, everybody.

My name's Lana Carson.

I'm a deputy uh currently with our crime prevention unit.

This is my partner, deputy uh Nicholas Ligorio.

Uh so first and foremost, thank you all for having us.

Uh, I'm gonna give you a quick overview of exactly what our unit does.

We're part of an umbrella that's called CORE.

That ultimately stands for community uh community oriented response and engagement division.

Uh within that uh umbrella, we have two units.

So we have our crime prevention unit, that's what I'm part of, and we have our crime reduction unit, that's what my partner is uh part of.

We have two supervisors, I believe everybody is very familiar with Sergeant Marcus Cox and Sergeant Karen uh Dawkins.

We have one lieutenant and one captain.

So kind of our overview and our core mission in and of itself um is is community engagement, it's actually a 21st century style of policing, so it's community policing in and of itself.

So while every deputy is responsible for crime prevention, uh the core team, again, our crime prevention unit and crime reduction unit are explicitly responsible for maintaining close ties with all division and units within ACSO.

So that means our investigative units, that means to our patrol levels, that also means to just a little bit.

Okay, I got you.

I got you.

Hey, I appreciate the honesty here.

Um, but we assist with crime prevention activities, uh if that makes sense.

And what that means is we ultimately will take information and build strong community ties within our obviously in our community, our shareholders that live within our community, and we'll assist in disseminating information and uh ultimately compiling um prevention strategies to actually look at a problem and find a more permanent solution for that problem so it's not hindering the ability of our community.

Uh so community policing is based on the philosophy of uh service delivery and shared responsibility.

So that shared responsibility is ultimately saying that hey, we are all one component of this community, so we all need to work together to find that uh lasting solution if if there's something that's affecting our community.

Um problem solving responses to the community's concerns and creating uh creating community partnerships are key elements which are intended uh to improve the quality of life within obviously our communities itself.

So, uh to kind of hit on a few things.

Uh what we love to do is community engagement.

I think that's uh something that we uh we do very, very well.

And with that community engagement, that's obviously interacting with people within our community.

Um, and uh I mean, I would I I honestly think it's it's a great thing, but uh we get to put on a uniform, we get to interact with people in in a very positive light, and that obviously isn't the case all the time.

So being able to have that moment with somebody within the community where it's not on the everyday duties of our job, but it's more of uh in a lighter, more passionate manner.

I think it's something that should drive a big light for 21st style of policing.

Uh, so our community engagement is is a process that involves building relationships and fostering collaboration between individuals, groups, and organizations and institutions within our community.

I'll kind of go into our partnerships here in just a little bit, but it's a dynamic and ongoing interaction that seeks to involve community members in decision-making processes.

So ultimately taking that specific problem and saying, Hey, I know you may feel helpless about this, but let's look at the problem.

Let's look at a solution that we can both work on together and then let's see if that works or if it doesn't work.

And if it doesn't work, let's come back to the drawing table within the next month and let's think of something different.

Um, on to our next slide.

So our community activities.

Community activities are events or initiatives that bring people together within a specific geographic area uh with shared interests.

Um, so just a few here again.

Again, I'm spoiled in my job here, but we were able to attend a I believe six-year-old's birthday.

He always wanted to be a law enforcement officer, so we were able to come over with our lights and sirens and have them run the car and have him get inside the car, use the PA.

Uh, his friends loved it, he loved it, his family loved it.

Uh, another event was our our truck or treat event.

That that's absolutely a huge one.

I apologize.

Can I actually go back a slide?

I would like to hit a few of those events as well.

Sorry, one back.

Thank you.

So just a few here.

So in our top right of our screen right there, that's actually our women's cycling class.

We uh worked in conjunction with uh Orange Theory, and we invited as many people as we possibly could, and we put on a uh a cycling course.

Uh that's just to promote healthier lifestyles and and ultimately uh having us work out too.

We thought we were in shape, uh, but there's a lot of people that are a lot better shaped than we are.

So we got something to work for for the next year.

Uh the bottom right here, that bottom picture on the right, that is gonna be our deputies with Santa or our breakfast uh with Santa.

And that was actually co-hosted with JP's, if everybody's familiar with that, um, that's right there on Castro Valley Boulevard, and then the photograph directly next to that was La Perla's restaurant.

That's when we assisted in handing out uh close to 300, I believe, meals to to families that uh would love to come up to us and interact.

And I think that was a great event.

So we can go on to the next.

Sorry, we can keep going.

Yep, thank you.

One more and one more.

So these are just the diet the diversity of with within our community activities.

As you can see, we do an annual holiday toy drive.

We do deputies on ice.

That is actually a huge event.

Though it's not open to the public, this is actually a private event.

We uh work in collaboration with Three Crosses, that's right up there off of John Drive.

Um, and we specifically work with our shareholders, shareholders, my apologies, within the community, which is our behavioral health unit, our special victims unit, um, Calico, which is an investigative thing that we utilize for uh juveniles that are victims of crime.

Uh we did Ruby's Place.

We ultimately tried to our deputy sheriff's activities league, all of our nonprofit organizations, and we said, Hey, do you have anybody that would benefit for a private event to come out free meal, free ice skating, um, especially around sometimes tougher times for families that are in need.

Uh, so that was an amazing event.

I believe there was close to 350 families that were there, and it was an amazing event.

Our dogs with deputies, I'm pretty sure everybody's kind of familiar with that.

We'll be running that again this year.

Uh, and just ultimately, again, tapping into our shareholders and tapping into our businesses that are locally owned with cream pups with a cop and cops with a cone and agua frescas.

Uh ultimately the list goes on, but uh this year, this upcoming year is going to be a big year for us.

So please look forward to uh seeing everybody there for our upcoming community events.

On to the next slide, please.

So with uh community engagement and community activities, there's also a different branch to crime prevention itself, and that's actually going out and conducting community enforcement.

So I think the biggest way to maintain a strong level of trust within our community is when I'm at these community events and I'm sitting there and I'm talking with somebody and they're voicing their concerns, we're listening to that, right?

We're listening to that concern, and we're physically going out there and saying, hey, if there are people, if there are people that are speeding, or if you do see people that are appearing like they're walking around at real late hours of the night, we're gonna try to do everything that we can on our on our end to make sure that you are heard.

So again, this is another form of the crime prevention unit and crime reduction unit, but it's actually a proactive policing style.

So it's community enforcement.

I would like to point out specific things, um, but most of these firearms that are seen on the screen above, those were taken off of um suspects that were operating motorized vehicles.

That is uh a typical law enforcement stop or a traffic enforcement stop uh that led to probable cost search of those vehicles that led to obviously illegal firearms being taken off the street.

Um our big thing, which is down here on the corner.

Uh, that's gonna come from a community complaint.

Uh the community complaint was was taken during a community event, and uh I'm very thankful that that community member felt um felt comfortable enough to explain certain things to me.

And I said, hmm, that doesn't seem right.

Well, tell me more, tell me more.

Um, and that ultimately led to the recovery of close to a thousand marijuana plants.

That was in Castro Valley, and that was from a residential home.

So another great seizure, and again, teamwork working within the community and law enforcement itself.

Law enforcement can't be everywhere 24-7, so we lean heavily on our community.

And our next slide.

So this is another thing that we do.

It's our community cleanup.

If you're not familiar with Deputy Heidi Burbank, she's absolutely amazing, but she is our unhoused liaison, and she works very close with public works in doing encampment cleanups.

So that's ultimately the process of addressing and cleaning up temporary camps or settlements, often inhabited by individuals that are experiencing homelessness.

Now, with that being said, to kind of explain the backdrop here or explain the process here is we like to go out and we give them approximately a week, and within that contact of that week, we like to try to provide them as many resources as possible, giving them more sustainable living, access to sobriety facilities, and access to different organizations that can assist them, possibly in their time of need.

Now, with that being said, we give them an allotted amount of time, and then we return back with public works and we conduct the community cleanup.

So we give them a lot of time to obviously gather their belongings, and then hopefully they obtain these resources.

That's not the case with absolutely everybody, but hey, we still try.

And then we conduct the community cleanups.

So she's seen an absolutely huge success with this.

So again, our partnerships, this is absolutely crucial.

So again, I hit originally on the public works, but we also work hand in hand with Dig Deep Farms.

That's what's providing them food.

Caltrans, because there's certain property lines that belong to Caltrans, American Red Cross.

We also have certain things that's uh safe parking, that's um where if they are living out of their vehicle, we provide them a parking lot that's actually secured, that has that uh security 24-7 and has access to water and bathrooms and shower, so that instead of them parking on the street where they for the most part will feel possibly vulnerable throughout the night, they can actually safely park somewhere so they can sleep without worrying if somebody possibly breaking into their vehicle.

Shelters again, our CARES program.

Uh that's absolutely huge.

My partner, Deputy Nick Ligorio, he's uh amazing and has uh amazing knowledge with CARES, and you can answer any questions about that.

Residential programs, community resources, uh again, dig deep farms, aid during winter flooding, Red Cross shelters, and La Familia, which is which is a huge, huge partnership for us.

So uh something else we do as well.

Uh we also do a community cleanup, which is uh of our independent living home facilities.

Uh, this our our main point of contact is Deputy Heidi Burbank again.

Um she actually works very closely with uh Alco Fire, uh code enforcement and vector control, where she was conducting ultimately inspections of independent living home facilities and observing their living conditions were uh subpar uh at best, and and we ultimately believe that the people that were seeking this care in the facilities were extremely vulnerable to this.

Uh so Deputy Heidi Burbank, she created this task force, and she ultimately conducts uh these inspections of these independent living homes.

And as you'll see on the next slide, she has cleaned up quite a few, uh doing an amazing job.

So these are just some before and afters of these independent living homes where people are currently uh residing or were residing.

Um Heidi would conduct an inspection and take the task force with her, and then they would ultimately get in contact with the property owner or property management, and then ultimately go through the finding process through code enforcement due to the living conditions.

A huge partner for us is our behavioral health unit.

Um, and one of our main uh focuses is ultimately uh to aspire um a healthier community by providing cultural competent and strength-based trauma-informed behavioral health services.

Um, this is absolutely crucial because I believe people think, oh, well, I need to be a victim of crime to be able to obtain these certain things, and having this partnership with us, uh I've come in more contact with people on the street, just saying hello, and ultimately breaking down uh or building rapport with them and being able to obtain them behavioral health services.

This is amazing uh partnership for us that we frequently use.

So this is our outpatient clinic, they have an address on East 14th.

Um we have Reach as well, and that's our Ashland Youth uh Center.

That's also on East 14th, our Dublin services.

They have a specific portion of that building, uh, which is at Clark Avenue in Dublin, and then the services they provide is individual therapy, clinical case management, coordination with probation officers and other justice departments and linkage to other services in and of itself.

Um again, so individual therapy, our family therapy, couples therapy, clinical case management, crisis intervention, and crisis response.

So they've actually responded to specific scenes, and then victims of uh crime support.

We'll go one more.

Perfect.

And then before I go over these uh supervisor contacts, I'm actually gonna hand the mic over to my partner, Deputy Ligorio.

He's gonna give you some uh criminal statistics uh over the course of the past year, uh from Fairview, and we also have comparisons between 2024 and 2025.

Thank you, Landon.

And if if you guys haven't grabbed it already or the handout, we have handouts in the uh back of the room, just so you can follow along because it's not on the slide.

Um, so for our crime reporting statistics, specifically for the Fairview area, we have it broken down into three major categories, um, which is one category is crimes against persons, the second one is property crimes, and then the third is gonna be societal crimes.

Um, a lot of this is like public public nuisance issues, trespassing, vandalism, things of that nature.

So we'll start off with our crimes against persons.

Can everyone hear me all right?

Okay.

Um we had three forcible sex offenses in 2024 with the same number in 2025 with a zero percent increase.

Um aggravated assault, we had 12 in 2024 and 10 in 2025.

So a decrease of 17% in aggravated assaults.

Um, simple assaults, there were 31, uh, with the same number in 2025.

And the difference between an aggravated assault and a simple assault is an aggravated assault is gonna produce serious bodily injury, and or having a weapon used in that assault, where a simple assault is usually of our misdemeanor category with minor injuries.

And on top of that, some of a crime or we may respond to one incident that might actually count for multiple different stats.

So they might count in aggravated assault as well as threats, just for the uh purposes of reporting the crimes accurately.

Um for criminal threats, we had three in 2024 and uh doubled in 2025 to six with 100% increase.

And then in kidnapping or abduction, we had one in 2024 and three in 2025 with a 200% increase.

Um obviously that shows like a little bit of an alarming increase, but there's only these are only kind of like the the titles of the categories.

So it says kidnapping and abduction, but it also with that includes false imprisonment and false imprisonment is a typical crime that will occur during a domestic violence incident.

Um so in the event of a felony domestic violence when someone was held in an area, however short against their will, that could be deemed um under kidnapping or abduction.

And I looked into these three incidents in Fairview, and all three incidences were false imprisonment during a domestic violence incident.

So none of them were your typical more traditional kidnapping or abduction.

Um moving into uh so the total crimes against persons uh with a slight increase from 50 to 53 with a six percent increase.

Uh for property crimes, uh robbery, and just a quick thing about the difference between rob robbery and burglary.

Robbery is gonna be by force or fear.

So when someone steals something off someone's person using force or fear, where your burglar burglary, sorry, or breaking and entering is going to be when no one is home or it's in an unoccupied vehicle.

So it's sit specifically property.

Um we had eight robberies in 2024 and one in 2025 with a decrease of 88%.

So that's really good to see.

Uh burglaries went down from nine to five with a decrease of 44%.

Uh larceny or just normal theft went up from 53 to 71.

Uh motor vehicle theft almost went down, was almost cut in half from 43 to 26 with a 40% decrease.

Um counterfeit or forgery, we had zero in 2024 with one in 2025.

And because the number was zero in 2024, it just shows a zero percent increase, but it'll be um calculated with into the final totals.

Um, with vandalism, we had a slight increase from 11 to 12.

Embezzlement, we had one in 2024 and zero in 2025.

Um, extortion of two in 2024 with zero in 2025, fraud offenses were about the same, seven to eight with a slight increase of 14%, and then uh stolen property offenses was just about the same too, went from three to two.

So for total um with crimes against well, crimes, property crimes, we were down eight percent from 2024.

And then for our societal crimes, um, for curfew, you can see went up by one, disorderly conduct went down by 78%.

Uh driving under the influence was very similar, went from three to two.

Um, drug or equipment violations, and this is gonna be um using paraphernalia for illegal paraphernalia possession, um, went from four to five with a decrease uh increase sorry of 25%.

Um possession of narcotics uh was four, increased to six with six, sorry, with an increase of 50%, and then a family offenses we had zero in 2024, and in 2025 we had three, uh liquor or law violations went up by one.

Um pornography or obscene materials went from one to two with an increase of 100%.

Um trespassing went from three to two, decrease of thirty-three percent, and weapon or law violations went from four to two with a decrease of 50%.

So overall uh total crimes against society, we were down seven percent, and with compiling all the data in the Fairview area, we were down five percent from 2024 to 2025, and that is all we have.

Thank you very much.

Okay, questions.

Um, we'll go with open public comment first, take your questions, and then we'll come back to the council for comments and questions.

So public comment.

I have no speakers for public comment.

This one, this one.

I think we need to play the other thing with a question about this thing.

So I don't know what's larceny theft, I guess.

Because I was looking at it, uh, sorry, Vanya, can you speak into the mic?

And then um they'll yeah, say your name and then ask all your questions, and then they'll respond to them when you're all done.

You have how many minutes would you like, Chair?

Three minutes, please.

Hi, I'm Vanya Taylor.

I live in Fairview.

So I just really wanted to understand the difference with property.

It says robbery, burglary, and then larceny theft.

I'm sorry, I don't really know what kind of the differences are those.

You know, somebody you stole it off them or something.

So that's what I was kind of.

Outstanding question.

So the difference theft is going to be simply it's kind of like shoplifting.

When a theft you steal something from a store, right?

Burglary is gonna be breaking and entering, either a residence, an unoccupied residence, or an unoccupied vehicle, where robbery is when you're actually stealing something from someone's person specifically using force or fear.

So if you present if you were, for example, presented a firearm at someone to steal their wallet, um, that would be a robbery.

So robbery is gonna be far more serious than our burglaries and our thefts, but that's the those are the primary differences between those three categories.

Any other comments?

No other speakers for this item.

Seeing none, we'll go to the council.

Questions, comments?

Yes, thank you, and thank you for your reports.

Really appreciate it.

So, you know, numbers can be misleading.

So when I run my eyes down and I see these percentages and something moved from 12 to 10, it's down 17%.

Well, that sounds 70%, but it's down too.

So I do have a question about robberies that were down 88%, and the burglaries that were down 44% because it's it's almost half, and then motor vehicle theft from 43 to 26.

My question is, is there something that you did, y'all right, did differently during 2025, that you can point to that change these numbers, or were they just randomly different, like some of these moving from 11 to 12 is probably just a random difference, but some of these feel more significant.

So is there something that you've done differently that you kind of point to and say this worked during 2025?

That's a very good question.

So unfortunately, based on how crime reporting works and being able to identify a specific variable, essentially, that X, Y, and Z, these variables are the reason for this reduction in robberies.

Um, we aren't able to make that evidence like that objective statement and identify those variables without a study being done by a data data analyst, and we don't specifically have one with the Alameda County Sheriff's Office.

So to be able to identify the causality of those decreases, we would only be able to suggest anecdotally of things that we have done.

And with the introduction of our air support unit and continuously using technology to our advantage, um, I think those things have played a factor in our crime reduction and crime prevention, but I can't uh speak specifically to what the causality of those numbers is, if that makes sense.

Okay, that would be cool if you could, because then you know what to do.

I agree.

All right, thank you.

That's I can I can add I can add to that as well.

Um again, right?

Uh speaking uh statistically, uh, unfortunately I can't, but I can speak based upon my training and experience.

Um, and I can say that uh due to our technology, um, and our ability to follow investigation significantly further, or even if a crime has just recently occurred, uh, with our success or capture rates of these suspects due to that technology, um, absolutely crucial in keeping our public safe and making our jobs uh significantly safer.

Um, but I can say based upon my training experience that um the introduction of technology in and of itself um has led to the capture of more suspects during the commission of such violent crimes, if if that answers it a little bit a little bit more.

Sorry, okay, thank you very much.

Member Higgins.

Thank you.

He guys, thanks for the the presentation.

Um, is this could this be a time we could talk about fireworks ordinance?

Okay.

Um I'll bring up the fireworks ordinance when that when we get a little further down.

And that's all my questions.

Thank you.

Thank you, deputies.

I appreciate the report.

It was very thorough.

I specifically have a question for Deputy Chrisson.

You gave a um report on the what I think you refer to as the community cleanup.

And of course, in many of our meetings, the community has shared that unhoused people in our community is a concern for everybody.

And of course, it's a much larger issue.

And we recognize that you all play a limited role in that, but it was very curious and getting some more details about how the role is in providing kind of long-term solutions.

You had initial contact, provided some resources for folks, and then came back around to do the cleanup.

And interested in knowing what the success rate is in helping people connect them with the services that they need, and also anecdotally interested in hearing if there are if this has been a successful track that you all have been able to use to help support some of those community members.

So I can I can respond again with with my experiences.

Right.

Oh, sorry about that.

Sorry about that.

Um the reason why I say that is because we contact uh people that are in different uh aspects of their life.

Um, and what I mean by that is uh sometimes we contact people that do want the assistance and do want the support.

And there has been, I I can't give you a specific number, but um I know speaking to my partner because she speaks she's very uh in tune with all the different people that she's been able to provide these resources to, um, that it has been very successful for them.

Now, with that being said, and this is the other path.

Um, we have come in contact with individuals that unfortunately my partner has had to arrest several times.

Um, and that is the last form of intervention uh that we would like to take.

Um, but that is after they've refused the resources, um, and they ultimately either refuse to leave that specific area, especially after that allotted amount of time to uh gather their belongings and then move on.

Um, but again, I know for a fact, I can't speak to specific stats, but I know for a fact um speaking to my partner that she does have a few success stories that are coming right out of Castro Valley, actually, um, in our unhoused population.

Um, but with that being said, our CARES Navigation Center, which do you mind speaking just a little bit about?

Uh, this is a huge thing that that is obviously coming back to the surface, it has been around for a few years, uh, but a great resource that we're planning to be using this year.

So our CARES navigation, I always have to spread my legs out so I can get down to the mic, but I don't know how to lift it here.

Let me get let me let's see.

There we go.

Oh, see?

I've outgrown the microphone still okay.

I still have to do this.

Um, so yes, our CARES Navigation Center is a great resource, and it's just a really good example of one of the resources that we have available to us to help serve the unsheltered community and not just the unsheltered community, people that come into contact with law enforcement, period.

So, what the CARES Navigation Center is is in the name, it's the navigation center.

Um, but specifically why it's such a good resource for law enforcement, is we can contact an individual, and at that moment, if they're wanting resources and they're looking for assistance, we can give them a ride or request for an advocate to come pick them up at that point in time, because a lot of times people that are out and maybe using drugs, mental health issues are unsheltered, they need that assistance then at that moment because you don't know they might change their mind.

Then we can get them out to the CARES Navigation Center, and they have up to about a two-hour interview with a navigation specialist to kind of identify exactly what the needs of that specific individual are.

If that's housing, mental health, um, substance abuse assistance, and then get them on a program to hopefully help with those issues, whether it's housing or drug abuse.

So it's nice to have the resource where they actually will sit down that person and find what's best for the person instead of just finding a person and trying to fit them into another um program that might not be perfect for them.

And we're not going to be the experts at that as law enforcement.

Additionally, with the district attorney's office, um, we had this before, but now again the district attorney's office is um doing diversion through the CARES Navigation Center.

So if we do affect an arrest, and that may be at an encampment or at any type of juncture, we contact someone and we have uh ultimately arrest them, we can give them the option, as long as it's a qualifying offense, to drop them off at the CARES Navigation Center, um, instead of taking them to Santa Rita jail.

So we're actually dropping them off at the CARES Navigation Center, hoping that they can get assistance with a specialist instead of taking them to Santa Rita jail, if that kind of clears that up.

It's really heartwarming to hear that there's a CARES program and then there are some people that are taking that path.

It's also very heartbreaking to hear that there are some people that aren't in a good space and are being arrested.

I I meant you mentioned earlier that there was an officer who's working specifically on this and the cares.

Um was that Glory?

Oh, that's you, okay, yeah.

Um, well, I I would be interested in hearing more about this.

I don't know if this is a good setting, but maybe get this on the agenda again because it'd be interesting to understand kind of what what the marching orders are that you all have to kind of deal with that and how we're dealing with it moving forward.

It's kind of an increasing concern in our community, and um, you know, it's it's an issue that I it's near and dear to my heart, and I think other community members would like to continue to understand.

So I appreciate your work and would like to hear more.

Um, and then I just have one other thing, which is I want to appreciate Sergeant Dawkins.

Hi, Sergeant Dawkins.

Um, we had several community members in my neighborhood who had brought up some concerns about safety.

Um, there were some issues in our neighborhood, and Sergeant Dawkins came out, did a walkthrough in the community, um, and provided a lot of great resources to share with neighbors about how to protect ourselves, especially in some of our kind of more tucked away neighborhoods.

So, wanna you all to encourage you all to reach out um and get some of those community resources.

Um, feel free to hit me up later.

Thank you for your presentation.

Um, Miss Rhodes has asked some the questions I had as well.

Um, couple of questions on the stats page.

Theft and larceny are up 34% from 53 to 71.

That's pretty sizable.

Anything you're seeing there is this retail related or any themes.

Specifically for me, I don't have any, I can't identify any specific reasons.

Typically, some um theft and larceny will increase during the holidays.

So December, I know we don't have it broken down per month, but you'll see that November, December spike.

Um, but we don't have I'm not able to identify any specific reasoning for the increase in theft or retail on that that line item.

I might.

Um, no, and and to kind of just hit on what my partner said, I think it's uh an increase in the reporting standard in and of itself.

Um, and and again, uh to kind of reiterate, if you will, especially around the holidays, right?

We will see that uptick in the package theft.

Uh, that's absolutely huge.

Uh, the package theft is big because people are getting uh the boxes dropped off at the house and they're at work, and then unfortunately they're coming home and their boxes are gone.

Um, so I would say the the increase of the reporting in and of itself um and then the uh traditional uptick around the holidays.

We'll we'll definitely see the hike in that number, if you will, uh, due to the package thefts.

Okay.

And these are the same reporting periods, January through end of December.

Yes.

For for two, yeah, for 2024 and 2025.

Okay.

And then to count as a crime in Fairview, is that called in from Fairview?

Is it committed in Fairview?

Is it both?

I know my other place we see everything comes out of one city because that's where all the reports are filed.

So it looks like one area is really bad and one area is very good.

How does that work with where these count from?

So it'll be where the crime occurred.

So if the crime occurred in Fairview and it was reported, say at our station, um, then uh that's gonna be it's gonna be a Fairview crime statistic.

So it's where the crime actually occurred.

Okay.

Thank you.

And I notice we're down 10 cases year over year, so that's progress.

It's five percent.

And I hope with technology we continue to see a much bigger increase.

Um, to Miss Rhodes' point, I would love to see Deputy Burbank also come back and talk a little bit more about the homeless and the unhoused being a recent recipient of a new neighbor that jumped over a six-foot wall behind my office and set up a tent and a cooking surface and a bunch of stolen chicken with receipts and price tags and stuff all over the not receipts, price tags, um, shoes and all types of stuff, which my wife discovered when she opened her kitchen window to look out in our back deck that's a six foot locked wall.

Um, I think getting the resources out is a great idea.

Um, there's there's a lot of different avenues we can help communicate those as well.

Um I saw Deputy Pola got promoted.

Great for him.

I see a lot of these fancy themes like cops and cones and et cetera that may have come out of that household.

Uh do we have somebody taking over his role or is that just a whole group that works on that piece?

Yeah, so um uh again, right?

We're kind of the Swiss Army knife, if you will, of uh ACSO, but um that will be upon every single deputy to be able to build those relationships, maintain the current events that we do have, and build new ones, right?

With with different um objectives or goals within that specific um business or uh neighborhood that that we can actually uh grow from.

So I think the we're gonna try to keep as many as we can.

Uh but again, I think looking into the new year, I think with growth and it will come new events as well.

So we we shall see.

Cool.

Appreciate that.

And my last question is around staffing.

I know we heard staffing shortages overtime, jails, etc.

last year quite a bit.

Is that ramping up?

Is that about the same situation?

Um I just look at it.

No, I can uh I can say that um our our staffing is is significantly getting better.

Um I assist in teaching uh multiple different uh subjects, if you will, in our academy.

Um and in our most recent academy, we have close to 50 recruits, which is one of our biggest classes.

Um in our academy before that, I believe we just graduated close to 30.

And the academy before that, I think we had close to 30 as well.

So our backgrounds in recruiting are doing an amazing job, and they're working around the clock to be able to find um the best people that can suit uh our community in and of itself.

And the 50 recruits is that combined with CHP or is that just sheriff's office?

Just sheriff's office.

Congrats.

Yeah, thank you.

Well, well, thank you very much for the presentation.

Appreciate you.

Stay safe.

We have business cards.

May I get a business card from one of you?

Yes.

Uh, I just want to take it.

We'll even go to that.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

All right.

Closing out item one, moving to item two, an update from Alameda County Public Works Agency, the D Street Improvement Project and the Second Street Sidewalks.

I thank you, Miss Lou, for coming in here on short notice and coming to answer some questions for us and tell us more about it.

Okay, cool.

Thank you.

Um, good evening, happy new year, Chair Anglin and members of the Fairview Municipal Advisory Council.

My name is Amber Lowe.

I'm with Public Works.

I'm here this evening to provide a brief update on two sidewalk projects in Fairview.

Um, that D Street Sidewalk Improvement Project, which is nearing completion, and the Second Street Sidewalk Improvement Project, which is moving into construction soon.

I'll start with the D Street project.

This project provides approximately 1.1 miles of continuous sidewalk and bike lanes along D Street.

The project limits are from the Hayward City limits to Machado Court.

So along with the sidewalk and bike lane improvements, we're also like doing roadway resurfacing, traffic calming, other safety improvements.

The goal of this project is to improve pedestrian safety, connectivity, and also overall corridor conditions.

The major construction work for this project is now completed.

The paving was completed in end of October, and the roadway is functionally open.

But as you guys are all aware, the striping has not been installed yet due to the weather.

Currently is scheduled for next next week when the weather is getting better, keeping my finger crossed that the weather conditions don't change.

So at this point, the remaining work on this project is limited to like the final striping.

Some of the concrete flat work adjustments that's needed for the utility pole relocations.

You might have noticed like some utility poles kind of sitting in the gutter, those will be removed and set back onto the sidewalk where they're supposed to be located.

And we're targeting completion the for early February, the first week of February, hopefully, assuming normal weather conditions.

And the next project, next slide, please.

It's the second street sidewalk improvement project.

This project will provide continuous sidewalk on both sides of 2nd Street over approximately 0.8 mile.

It's actually a pretty complex project compared to our typical projects due to the terrain and other existing conditions.

It includes work across about 100 driveways, construction of 11 retaining walls, and about 7,000 feet of sidewalk, along with pavement rehabilitation at the end.

Just a brief schedule and timeline of what we've done and what's upcoming.

The design for this project began about a year and a half ago in June 2024.

We had a public meeting on in February 2025, and then the project was advertised recently in October.

The construction contract is scheduled for a ward next week on the 13th at the board meeting.

Construction we anticipate will be longer, kind of like how the D Street project was.

And it's going to be a little bit longer than our normal projects.

The duration is about 380 working days, and we will continue to coordinate closely with the residents as the project moves forward.

Both projects are focused on improving pedestrian safety and access in Fairview.

And that's my brief presentation to you.

Thank you for the presentation.

We'll start with member Philman on questions or comments.

I have both questions and comments.

I happen to live on 2nd Street.

The communication about this project has been absolutely dismal, dismal.

The one public hearing was in February.

I listened to that public hearing recently.

All they said was we're planning to do sidewalks on 2nd Street, period.

That's all the information they had.

I got a letter in the mail about it.

I'm going to make this up.

Let's say it was a couple weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I'm not sure.

The information in that letter about how it was going to impact my property was so convoluted, I had no idea.

There was there was no picture that showed where the house was there was nothing that gave details about what the impact to my property was.

I have no reason to believe that anybody along 2nd street had anything better than I had.

I contacted um Carl I think his name is the planning person he sent me electronic the electronic plans and I went through those I didn't see any addresses along 2nd Street.

There was one picture that where I where I campus was identified it was flipped.

It was kind of like it was the negative view you know where campus doesn't go this way it goes that way but the picture showed it going the wrong way so it was like it was like a negative it was like it was flipped.

Further down it was the it was curved the correct way but I couldn't tell what the real impact was going to be my guess is that I will have it will be almost impossible for me to get into my driveway because of the change of the elevation of what I'm guessing is going to be done there's been no communication there's been no other sort of public hearing my impression was what I thought was going on with the D Street project was that there was that involvement.

I remember hearing about residents working with them and talking about the planning and none of that has happened on 2nd stream I I don't know if I think I do know now because I asked but because of the notification I didn't know whether it was going on both sides of the street or not I know there are properties where the whole front yards are well I'm exaggerating now don't get carried away Sally because of the way the property comes out you're gonna have to cut significantly back into properties for the width of the sidewalk to work.

So anyway I'm really really bothered I was told actually by planning that the contract had already been let that it had been let back in November so apparently that's not true.

So I like to see some public hearings I'd like to see a map that actually shows what the plan is for every single property in terms of the you know how much is the the public right of way I know that because it's those houses have been there since at least the early 50s many of them and so that while they allowed walking space for walking off street it wasn't the width that you determined and so there is quite a bit of of destruction how do I I don't mean that in a negative way actually but a lot of taking down of things that were built and my letter I think said that I'm responsible for the cost of that.

Mine's kind of minor compared to other properties that have major fences that I think are going to have to be taken down in order to accommodate this.

And because Fairview is a rural area I'm bothered that it's being made into an urban area when I don't know whether the the community really wants it made into an urban area we try to hang on to our rural roots and anyway so that's that's my statement and my question is when are we going to get some public hearings and when are we gonna hear what's really going to happen to each property along that right of way because people I don't know and I'm sure nobody else along second street knows either and I would bet that at least half of them have no idea that this is even going on not that they shouldn't have read their letter but I'm just saying if you don't have public notices and and and public meetings and the opportunity for us to get out and knock on doors and let them know that these meetings are happening then people just don't know.

You know I was out there watching you tagging trees I didn't know what the heck was going on.

I had no idea what was going on.

And I'm on this council, and I had no idea.

So I have a real I have a real problem with that, and I'm hoping that you will do something to make that better.

You know, and not not be pushing this down our throats like happened in San Lorenzo, I guess it was, where you blew up a house, you didn't blow up the house.

But I'm just saying there was a sidewalk project that those people didn't want.

And here we have a sidewalk project.

I don't know whether we want it or not, right?

I know I don't want it, but I I don't know what the name how the neighborhood feels.

So I'm not speaking, I'm speaking for the neighborhood from the point of view of information and the lack thereof, not from the point of view of whether or not we want the project, because I don't know.

I only know I don't want it, but I don't know how the neighborhood feels about having such a project.

Thank you.

Um should I address some of the comments now or that was a long one.

I'll let you take a stab at that.

Okay.

So yeah, we we did have a public meeting, it was held virtually um last year, and um that we sent notices out to all of the residents along the the project, and then I think if I recall correctly, um the presentation did have like a conceptual, like a bird's eye view of how the project would look after it's completed.

Um we didn't have individual addresses on there.

Um current like probably a couple of months ago, the the notices that you're talking about or the permits to enter and construct that went out to the property owners, getting their permission to go on private property to conform their uh their driveways or front yards so that they would match like the sidewalk elevation at the back of sidewalk, and um those would include like a letter, um the permit itself for the property owner to sign and also a um an engineering map.

I that that I didn't get.

I I got the the notice with the with a map in it, but I didn't get anything giving anybody permission to come anywhere.

Um so yeah, um you mentioned that you talked to to the project engineer Carl.

Um, I'll have them reach out to you and make sure that um that you get all the missing information.

And you might I don't I'm not sure like um which piece it is.

Is it the letter or the the permit?

He sent me the overall plans, he sent me all of them, but that it doesn't it doesn't show really what what it's gonna be, what's being taken, and doesn't I couldn't see any addresses on any of the properties, so I was looking at it and I thought I was in my neck of the woods, but I could not tell which of the properties was my property based on that map.

Okay, so um at this stage after like the permits to enter have gone out, and um the letter provided information, like contact information to reach out to um whoever the project engineer or project manager is, and um they'll work with the property owners individually because each property is kind of like a little mini project in itself and um all the site conditions are different, and that's why this is like a complex project.

And also, um, I think um you mentioned about the the right of way.

Um, the the whole project is going to be constructed within the right-of-way.

We don't we're not going on private property construction.

No, I understand that, but I also know that for instance my my decorative stuff in the front yard did not take that right of way into consideration, as my neighbors on either side did not.

So, you know, when you when you've lived somewhere for 40 50 years, you don't we didn't really know where the property line is.

So I'm not I'm not arguing that, okay.

I'm not I'm not challenging the property line because I've lived in a rural areas all my life and I understand how that works, but I'm just saying if if people don't know, other people may not know.

I'm guessing my neighbors on one side have no clue about property line versus you know, private property line.

Um, but I would I want to have, I want to encourage you to have another public hearing where where we can get all of those property owners in a room with both with pictures on the wall to show what's going to happen to their properties.

When you deal with people individually, they are powerless.

When you deal with people in a group, then they understand that there are other people that have opinions, and then they listen to those opinions and they realize they should be concerned about that too.

And they may not understand that.

So I think it's very disempowering to be addressing these issues with each property owner individually because they don't understand that maybe there's something they can do about this.

Okay, I hear you.

Member Higgins.

Thank you.

Thanks for the presentation.

Oh, I left my mic on, so you don't have to remind me.

Keep it close.

Okay.

My focus is more on on the D Street project.

And I think you said that you expect to wrap that up in March.

February.

February.

Okay.

Boy, that's nice.

And by the way, thank you.

The community is just loving the sidewalks.

Just the people that live along there.

I've talked to a lot of the people that live there when I'm out on my daily walks.

And there's just been a surge of pedestrian traffic.

You know, because we don't have to walk in the street anymore, right?

People are parking in the pedestrian right away, and you know all those kinds of things.

But a couple things.

And there's a lot of full-size posts that don't have any signs on them.

You probably should have one of your staff just kind of walk both sides of the road.

I'm happy to accompany them and point them out.

I I probably should have brought it, brought it with me tonight.

D Street, where Madero's comes into D Street on the uphill side, the east side, it would be helpful to have red curves there.

You put red curves on the west side that helps.

And I don't know that there's any other private street coming off D Street that has that many houses.

If you had a nice curved access, but at a minimum, maybe you could put some uh reflecting posts up.

If you take a look at the curb, you'll see all the all the cars that hit it.

Um maybe paint paint the curbs like you know, red and silver, so it's it's easier to spot.

And uh you know, back to to Sally's comments.

Both uh D Street and East Avenue, uh, you guys had some great public hearings.

They you went out and had the uh um the plans along each of the properties uh posted up around the room, and you know, engineers there to uh, you know, talk to people in an informal manner, and and as as Sally said, you know, everybody, you know, understood that hey, we're all in the same boat, and it it it works a lot better for you know building community relations.

Um, and I, you know, I thank you for for both the East Avenue sidewalks and the D Street sidewalks that that process.

Um I think I heard you mention you're gonna pull the utility polls out of the middle of the sidewalk.

Yeah.

It's not that's the the it's up to PG and E to do it.

That's why like those things are beyond our control.

It's their scheduling.

Okay and that's like ATT or uh PG and E moves first and ATT is usually the one that um removes the old poll.

Okay.

Because those are usually joint polls where there are several utilities on them.

Okay.

Now do you have a feel for when that'll happen?

We're pushing them to do it soon like hopefully this month so that we can wrap up the project.

Oh that'll be nice.

Yeah.

And have you had a chance to have you had like your staff had a chance to just walk on each side you know start to finish to look at the the you know the various um signs that aren't there the the stubs that you know if you're gonna put signs in do them if not chop them off so we don't trip and fall over uh Vanessa probably would have more information on the upper part of D Street.

I don't I don't walk up there so much anymore.

I got right I got that covered yeah I figured you would so uh yeah I mean the big deal uh the the second street stuff um please get a get a public meeting there and and you know get your your engineers there and and so everybody will see and and get the word out where we've got pretty good uh informal communication channels in in the community we'll well some of the some of those channels will probably come in uh uh from from the comments so you make sure you get hooked into them uh that's it for me for right now should I address the comments now sure this one okay first um mr higgins thank you so much like for um helping us find funding for the project I know that you're like you played a big part in that um in getting as the funding for these three um so um see the the tripping hazard that you you observed um the and the signs those are part of like the punch list items that I mentioned earlier so um staff will walk with the contractor to make sure that all of those things are um done properly according to plans and um we'll make sure that there's no um tripping hazards that there are I've drove through the project site um several times recently but um I'm sure staff has done that too and our construction staff definitely is on site very often um just to to follow up on that that point if if you let us know when it's gonna happen we can have people from the community walk and walk with you and it's not a confrontational kind of thing it's it's just we're pretty friendly that way.

Okay yes okay um yeah and I'll have um somebody evaluate um the Madero's intersection that you're talking about the one with the driveway um we'll see what we can do to um make the curve more noticeable um and regarding the the public meeting I think the difference mainly is because we conducted the second street one virtually and there wasn't that kind of interaction I was there at the D Street one and you remember our project engineer Steve he was up there he had like a whole show going and stuff like that and then um there were a lot more interactions and I guess like the other example you had with um East Avenue that was back in the days before virtual so um yeah probably we can bring back um in-person meetings and that that is what um people the community prefers.

Yeah the people that did attend that February meeting were more interested in traffic yeah calming than they were in sidewalks.

Almost every single person that spoke spoke about traffic.

Yeah it's it's definitely different.

Like, especially um, we do um kind of like a pre-meeting kind of thing where we have everything set up and people can look at the exhibits and stuff like that when it's done in person so um we can we can uh bring back in-person meetings.

Uh yeah uh thank you for the uh what you've done there.

The the sidewalks I've just made a huge difference in the community.

That's that's a really really big deal.

Um I can't thank you enough.

So thank you.

Vice Chair Rose.

Thank you for the presentation.

And I'd like to echo Chris's sentiment in that it's such a great resource to have those sideways walks on D.

I know there's a lot more pedestrians.

Chris was always out there, but now he's got company.

Uh and the students are using it a lot, which is really helpful.

It was a very dangerous situation before.

So very thankful, and I think y'all did an amazing job.

Um, and I'm very appreciative that you all are gonna go through the punch ticket and make sure everything is um is wrapped up.

I have a few, um, I'm referring to D Street because that's where I'm at.

Um, I have a few things that I'd like to just um highlight to see if you can put up on the top of your list because there's some safety concerns with the lack of um lines on upper D.

Uh, two specific things.

One is um if you are familiar coming up D when D kind of splits off to the left, um, and then it turns into Fairview Avenue to the right.

At right at that intersection for the oncoming traffic that's coming down Fairview Ave and coming on to D Street, there is a white line that has been drawn out, and what has what's happening is that people think it's a stop sign or a stop, it's already a very confusing intersection because those people turning left, it it seems awkward that they would be turning left there, and so that's confusing the ongoing traffic.

I turn left there to go home, and I see almost every day people stopping, then scooting of the people trying to turn left, not knowing if they can turn left because they don't know what the people oncoming traffic are gonna do.

In addition, I know that there is like a there is a left-hand turn lane there.

It's it's kind of colored on, not officially, um, but it is quite narrow and quite small, and it creates confusion for for the traffic that is continuing onto Fairview Avenue.

That whole intersection right there, even in the best of circumstances is very dangerous.

Um, but currently with no lines, no indication as to which way traffic should go or when they can go.

Um it's I haven't seen any accidents, thank goodness, and it hasn't seemed that there has been any.

Oh, it's a series that section, oh yes, certainly.

No, I I just mean it sense the lack of lines.

Um, but I have participated many times in the the chicken dance trying to get across there.

So I I hear you that early December or early February, right around the corner.

But if there's a way to deal with that sooner than later, we could prevent some accidents.

Um the second thing I just want to note is um I don't know if you're familiar.

If you continue to go up D, the road narrows quite significantly, and there is a hill that um prevents you from being able to see ongoing traffic.

Uh very much appreciate that there has been red curbs that have been painted on either side there because the assisted living facility has instructed all of their staff to park on the streets, and it makes the street even narrower and hard to see oncoming traffic.

Um, so appreciate the red uh curbs on either side.

Again, though, there's um a kind of flimsy white line that's currently there, and it doesn't it it's a little confusing.

So I I uh don't have any uh formal training and understanding how to help people understand how to drive past there, but there could be some ways to make that a bit safer as you're going through this punch ticket list.

Um, so those are the two main things I had for Dee.

Um, I did want to see if I could get a copy of those um slides that you presented just because they had timelines on them.

Oh yes.

Okay, that would be great.

And then one other thing, and this is based on my memory.

So maybe somebody on um the board or Ashley can help me remember.

There was a community member who came in months ago um complaining that there were rose bushes that were planted along D Street and were um quite uh dangerous.

There were some her kid had fallen into the rose bushes, and she had come and was very adamant and interested in talking to Public Works about uh planting something there that was a bit uh more kid friendly, um, and not sure if that issue had been addressed and wanted to know if there was an update on that.

Uh yes, I can answer that one, Amber.

Um I'm looking for the email now, but it was brought up to uh the director of public works, and um I will look for before I speak without remembering correctly.

I'll search for my email and follow up with you directly on that.

That's it.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

I'll I'll follow up on the two items that you mentioned about the turn and stuff, um, before the final striping goes in so that we can make sure that it's on like safely.

Thank you very much.

I like sidewalks um near Woodrow is close to a school, only a few blocks away, and you've got a sidewalk down one side, and then it stops, and there's a long dirt stretch, and then across the street, the sidewalk picks up again down towards Don Castro.

So I'm a fan of sidewalks.

Um it sounds like there was a big question on how the communication will go out.

You said they'll be working individually one on one with each house.

Do you have kind of a time frame?

Sorry.

Um the permit to enter that went out had a cover letter.

And so um that one has contact information for the um engineer, and so the property owners can reach out to to him and um they can coordinate and then you know, set up meetings or you know, um conversation online to to talk about it.

Um they could meet in person or um if uh if they're able to, they can also, you know, share screen and stuff if if they can't meet in person.

Sometimes that that works out for the property owner, so they don't have to take time off of work to meet.

Cool.

Then go over the the each individual, like you know, show them how what what it means on the drawing and where's the fence and where's the sidewalk on a B where's a driveway and things like that?

And did that letter have a deadline they had to respond by 30 days, 90 days, or is it scaled?

I think the the template is um two weeks with uh from the date of the letter is what was pretty quick window.

Um hopefully we'll see a lot of communication on there because we've gotten quite a few questions about that of what's going on when trying to figure out the details, who to reach out to, et cetera.

Um there was a question I was asked today, which I didn't really know.

They were saying that the old monument markers that used to mark the distance to the sidewalks had been paved over, and they were curious how you guys measure the actual sidewalk lines now, in case there's any ambiguity or questions around those.

The second street or which project.

Let's throw this um second street in Winfeld was one that was mentioned in specific.

I guess it's been quite some time.

But how is there gonna be any ambiguity on where these sidewalk lines are gonna start, where the property lines actually are?

Um that was a question.

Oh, those are all done in reference to monuments that are established within the roadway.

So on the project plans, um, I don't want to get too boring with the engineering details and stuff, but like they we have um two four decimal places, the coordinates of where these monuments are, and um everything is constructed according to like relative to it, like the distance from it, the angle and everything.

Um, and it's all like staked out, and the the forms and everything, the sidewalk um were are all I guess uh based off of that.

But it's simply and um those those monuments are are there in the roadway.

So the sidewalk is all constructed according to it.

I don't know if that answered the the monuments, usually like they're um in the in the road, there'll be like a lid for it, you have to open it, and then so there's there's different kinds, like the the actual monuments themselves are like underground and they're covered, but then um sometimes when we're doing the surveying, there'll be like nails and other markers that are out there that are that are set, and those are all like um printed on our plans as reference points.

I shouldn't even be sorry, was I able to answer your question?

Um Chair Angler.

And good follow-up, so they're out there now in all these locations where you can see them.

Uh the the monuments.

Yes, we we um you should be able to see them like where they are, but the actual monument itself is not exposed.

They're underground, like they're covered with a lid.

You have to like lift it and then it's a pin inside.

Um, but we do have um survey monument um preservation in our in our contracted items where you know the the contractors supposed to restore them, like do corner records and everything to maintain like the integrity of like the surveyed areas and stuff like that.

Okay, I'm also huge fan of the county mobile citizen app.

It's one thing I find works very quickly, and most times I've used it.

Is there a place in that app?

I haven't looked tonight, but is there any type of reporting where if there's people with concerns on the sidewalks?

Is that one of those sections in there?

Um Yeah, you can, and probably there would be like other if you didn't see the category that you're looking for, and um sometimes people reach out to us and it's not even in our jurisdiction, but we'll help forward them to the appropriate jurisdiction.

Sometimes we get stuff from like Hayward or San Leandro.

Okay.

And just to wrap up my questions, I know there's one follow-up next to me, but is there any other large projects that are coming up in 2026 in the Fairview area on your radar?

Um for design, I can't remember off the top of my head.

I'm sorry, but then um just second street is the probably the biggest one that's coming up, and yeah, that's going that's gonna take a lot of our resources.

Well, thank you.

I know Miss Fulman has one follow-up and then we'll go to public comment.

Yeah, there is a um you were talking about a tripping hazard down by D Street where along 2nd Street there's one where the pole was taken down, but it's it continues to stick up, and I just want to say that it's gone.

So I have asked about it several meetings in a row, and at some point you took care of it, so thank you.

Um, because I was just waiting for a lawsuit on that.

It was just you know, right in the middle of the of the walking area.

So I was concerned about that.

And um I I think that's it.

I'll be interested to see where those monuments are.

Will you be helping landowners to reestablish their property lines as you're doing this work?

Uh the I'm not sure what you mean by reestablish the property lines.

We people in the country just go by whatever fence has been up for the last 50 years, and maybe it's on the property line, and maybe it's not.

And so if you've got these monuments, if are they like outside every property, like at the end of you know, when my property comes out, is there one here and one here and one here and one here?

Oh, I now I see what you just don't, yeah.

I just no they're they're not that frequent.

So um like maybe I'm I'm not sure at the exact distance, but they're not in front of each property.

So um we establish like the bearing and distances based off like the the established monuments, so we know where those are.

Um, if you're talking about second street, most of our projects usually like we construct, we utilize the whole right of way.

The back of sidewalk is where the right-of-way line is.

But in the case of 2nd Street, because we try to um not impact private property so much, because as you said, there's been um people have been living there for a long time.

Sometimes they have um, you know, um encroachments that like retaining walls or like things that they're quite extensive that they they've installed, and we want to maintain that.

We don't want to just take them down and shift it just like three inches, like spend thousands of dollars on them.

So um we look at each property, and um that's what I was saying.

Like we treat each as a mini mini project and stuff, and we try to make the best decision um with the property owner and what to do.

But um, in cases where we need to utilize the whole sidewalk, there's nothing like the whole right-of-way for sidewalk, there's nothing we can do about that.

So if you're curious where the right-of-way line is, um, we can mark it out for people on the I'm fine with my very fence lines.

I'm not, you know, a foot or a foot one way or the other doesn't really matter to me, but I just was wondering how that was gonna work.

Yeah, they're staked out, they're not like um in front of each property.

So what they have are these like wood markers usually and or like things that are written.

I've seen them in the back corners of properties.

They're these metal things, and they got code on the top of them, and they are the marker at some point.

Yeah, they'll put a mark on there and they'll spray on the ground that says like the right of way is five feet from this mark or something like that.

They don't put it right over it, they like tell you where it is like um five feet that way or something like that.

So and then one last curiosity question on the corner of Winfeld and East Avenue.

There's a telephone pole that's basically right where people are trying to walk.

You know, if you're trying to come around that corner, you have to kind of skinny your way past one side of that pole or the other to try to stay out of the street.

Is that pole gonna be moved?

You know, east and windfeld?

Windfelt, yeah.

Um, I'll have to look into it.

I was just wondering because it's a phone pole or uh you mean like a what utility?

You know, I'm a lay person, I call it a telephone pole.

I don't know what it is.

It's it's a pole, right?

Wind tell and east, okay.

I'll I'll I'll take a look.

Okay, thank you.

And I appreciate you um putting up with me.

And are you the one for me to follow up with for a public meeting?

Um, probably either um Carl or his supervisor, um, they'll set it up.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you again.

We'll open it now for public comment related to this item.

You have three minutes.

If you've turned in a card or online, Dale Silva.

I uh two humble opinions and and uh and then um a thought.

I uh Amber, just so you don't think that everybody in Fairview loves sidewalks.

I don't.

I feel like every stretch of sidewalk that goes in, we lose another big chunk of our rural character.

And I think Sally, you may have started to say the same thing.

Um I love the speed bumps on D Street.

I haven't heard many, I see some nods, that's good because I haven't heard uh many of much opinion, many opinions expressed, but I think they're wonderful.

They certainly slow me down and anecdotal, anecdotally, I think they slow other people down.

Lastly, I'd like to express the hope that one of you would ask if the the restriping for the bike lanes on D Street and Second Street will um take away any curbside parking for residents that I'd like to avoid the see the situation avoided that we had in Castor Valley.

Thank you.

Hi, it's Vanya Taylor again.

I just want to ask, because I have been driving up and down Second Street and I have seen things that are going on with the construction of the sidewalk.

Will is it gonna narrow the street?

Or will it still be the same size for cars getting up and down?

That was my question.

Caller, you're on the line.

You have three minutes, Kathy.

Kathy Langley.

Hi, Kathy from Fairview on Maud Avenue.

And I just want to say that I began working with Paul Keener eight years ago on sidewalks, meeting in a park with Chris Higgins and my friend Cindy Richardson.

And we began talking about sidewalks as a form of traffic calming.

So someone said that at the D Street meeting that we were more interested in traffic than sidewalks.

That's not true.

Sidewalks are a part of traffic calming in the manual for fairview traffic calming.

We met with Rick Young, who was instrumental in getting giving us direction to get the sidewalks done.

And the redesign of D Street.

It took us seven years to get that done.

And thank you, Amber Lowe, for continuing his legacy.

I don't think that your office has been very transparent as Rick Young's was, but I appreciate your presentation tonight.

And um just a note that um it took me six years to get a PGE or ATT poll moved from Maud Avenue at the bus stop to allow people in wheelchairs to access that sidewalk, and that's not acceptable.

So what the deal is is that public works needs to be working more closely with ATT and PGE to reestablish those poles and fill in the sidewalk holes.

Caller, you're on the line.

You have three minutes, Michelle.

Michelle from Fairview.

We can't hear you, Michelle.

I have no more speakers on this item, and we we can't hear the other.

I can try it again.

I'm gonna try.

Yeah, we could try one more time.

Michelle?

No, we can't hear you.

Okay, we'll close public comment.

Ashley, can we do a couple other comments if there are further questions up here?

Okay, member Philbin.

Um, I just like to clarify one thing that um Kathy Langley said, she was commenting about D Street, and she that was right what she was saying.

I was commenting about 2nd Street, and that those people that were on that call in February were more interested about the problem with speeding traffic along 2nd Street.

They did not really speak to the issue of sidewalks during that meeting.

That's all.

So just want to make make that one clarification.

And Ashley, with the question on D Street and second with removing parking, it's somewhat related, but it's uh another project there.

But we did see what came out of this side of town.

Um, can we comment on that one?

Or uh yeah, you can comment.

Um, but if we need to bring it back for further in-depth discussion, um we can schedule that for a future agenda.

Okay, so maybe you can elaborate on that after we saw what happened right outside of here.

Oh, on um D Street.

Removing any parking versus three striping the streets.

No, there was enough width to have um five-foot bike lanes, seven foot parking, and eleven-foot travel lanes on on both sides.

So yeah, the um the parking is maintained for the most part, but um, there might be a perception that um because we standardize the um the curbs like with the sidewalk because you know there's a six-inch vertical curb, and then also because um uh there's areas that we might need to um uh remove parking due to you know the daylighting law where you can't park um um within 20 feet of like a crosswalk and things like that.

So there might be a couple uh parking spaces that are removed to be honest, like due to those kind of things, but not because of the bike lanes.

So you're so you're gonna be adding bike lanes to second street?

No, these street.

I think the question was D Street, right?

Okay, okay.

So for the second street project, you won't be eliminating parking along the street.

No, I don't think we're installing bike lanes on um second street.

So the parking is maintained, all street parking is maintained, and then they will be standardized, so people won't be like straddling um, you know, the the burns and things like that.

Yeah, yeah.

And anyway, on second street, the bicycles go straight down the center.

So right down the white line in between the two lanes as fast as they can go.

So and lastly, just to clarify and quantify removing several spaces from daylighting or other applicable laws.

How many spaces are we looking at in that case?

Well, whether or not we have the sidewalk project, those will still be the case because they're at the corner, so marked or unmarked crosswalk 20 feet from there.

But because we're standardizing the curbs and the pedestrian path and everything, it'll be more obvious, like where people cannot park.

So that's just what I would I wanted to say.

Okay, well, thank you very much.

Did you have one more?

One more.

I just wanted to bring a tiny thing.

Um, just one tiny thing.

Um I spoke with Carl, he didn't seem to know that the county had um off-street water drainage down to the down to that um sulfur creek tributary, and I want to make sure you knew that was there as you're designing excuse me, the the sidewalks.

That there's a a count, it was it was installed by the county, and it takes water off the street and takes it back to the to the tributary that's not acknowledged.

I have to say that, I'm sorry.

Um, and it's a count, it's a county project.

So I would hate to have that blocked as a result of the sidewalks going in.

Okay, I'll talk to him tomorrow.

Chair, you want to try that caller again?

Third try, okay.

Caller, you're on the line.

You have three minutes.

Okay.

No, we still can't hear you.

Well, we can't hear.

Um, we'll go ahead and close public comment.

Thank you very much for coming in tonight, giving us the updates.

Please keep us updated if there's any future big projects coming.

Um, it's always great to address these in advance.

And we have a request for a five-minute break if that's okay.

All right, can we get another roll call, please?

Council member farmer, excuse council member Higgins.

Councilmember Philbin.

Here, Vice Chair Rhodes.

Here.

Chair Anglin, here.

We have a quorum.

Thank you.

Item number three, conditional use permit and ATT wireless um antenna.

I'm looking for the feeling.

I don't see it.

So I'll hand it over to you, Pat.

This is an action item.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Um, my name is Pat.

You what?

Uh stop planer for conditioned use permit P-O-N 2025-00147.

Um, the application to allow a new communication facility uh in the form of the an AD uh feed monopole monopy um for ATT.

Okay, the location is uh 2637.

Use Avenue.

Uh the SSO password number is 426-140-9-2.

The applicant is uh Nick uh Takas uh from 51 Wireless.

He is the agent for the ATT.

The project is category XMS section 15303 uh new construction or conversion of small structures next slide please okay the property is sown's uh FA-CN-20-HEM is a fair views uh neighborhood uh business and with the um 22-HE is a housing element combined okay of the of the Fairview uh specific plans um as part of the Eden area general plant the parcel is approximately 2.39 acre uh with the access driveways into board east avenue as a main uh access and uh windfields road as a secondary um the there's uh the programs temple church is located on the west of the passos and also there was a two-way and commercial property is located on the east and the rest is the surround um the rest of them is surrounded by the uh single families residential area next slide please okay the the site is a corner lot um with the east avenue frontage again and generally level except for on the most uh uh subtle is portions of the lot is just slopes the um there's a two existing structures with a parking located around the buildings and along the street front edge the proposed uh monopies will be located on the west sides within the 900 square feet uh 20 by 43 sorry 20 feet by 45 feet uh enclosed lease area that will be visible from the board uh east avenue and also windfill road next slide please here is the alloyation plans um of the uh uniform monopy um the top of the tower is approximately 75 feet uh but with the um the camouflage and everything is uh total gonna be 80 feet next slide please okay this is uh um okay here's uh other view of the project property the yellow arrows down that's approximately location of the facility okay next slide please and as mentioned before uh the visible the visibility is from the windfield road this is the um photo simulation that the up can provide okay i'm sorry this is from the windfield avenue sorry uh next slide please uh this is the windfield i'm sorry previous slides from the east avenue i'm so sorry yeah this is the windfield road yeah the proposed uh projects uh comply with the zoning uh districts and uh the development standard of the sizing of the telecom facility uh unfortunately but it's not it doesn't meet the 1000 uh distance outline uh in the policies unless the uh and approved uh is obtained okay the alternative finding for the project the proposed facility addresses uh um public need uh by improving the coverage uh the the service cell phone coverage and also reducing gap and and ensuring the emergency service access as demand uh for the cellar service go uh and grow uh the Celeste with Grow.

The second one is the site is near the existing T-Mobile, so um the land use compatibility is there uh and is um properly later to the surrounding land use and also the transportation uh safety measures the antenna and the ground equipment will be uh secure behind the eight feet uh eight foot decorating wall with the gated access.

The lastly, you want the performance standard.

The district doesn't uh have the specific performance standard for this telecom communication facility.

However, the county noise standards are applicable throughout the county and would be made uh by the projects as condition.

Um recommend that the um the Fabio Max uh recommend approval of the furniture use permit PRN 2025-00147 to the West County Board of Sonic Adjustment to allow construction of 80-foot monopie and operation of the ATT telecommunication facility.

Um stop and also the Epicon is also in the Zoom that uh be happy to answer any question.

Thank you for the presentation.

I know I'll definitely have some questions for Nick from ATT at some point as well.

Um, but we'll start off with member Philbin.

Thank you for your presentation.

I think I heard you say that I'm gonna get this wrong.

So hopefully you know what I'm talking about.

You said something about is it an exception to the guidelines that you need, or is it something that you need be I didn't understand that what you said about that?

I just didn't.

It may be I couldn't understand what you were saying, so that's why, but I heard the word like an exception or something.

So, are you asking us to approve something that doesn't isn't consistent with the current um guidelines or the current the fair view plan?

Is that what no, not the fair view plan?

Um the telecom telecommunication facilities, uh guideline policy is required that uh each facility had to be at least one thousand feet, okay.

Uh uh separation that we have that.

Um the proposed uh this ATT facility is uh within a thousand feet from the existing uh one that um on top of the uh PGE tower.

So it's supposed to be a thousand feet, but it's really how many feet?

Um I believe it is approximately about 150 feet.

150 feet instead of a thousand feet.

Yes.

Okay, so I object to that.

I think that's problematic.

The second thing is that you have a um non-dedicated, doesn't matter whether it's non-dedicated or not, except that you have a roadway access onto the windfelt, and the way it's termed, it can be used for anything, not just for access to this tower.

The reason that that access was closed down.

There used to be a driveway into the store right about that spot, is because Windfeld is so dangerous, and it's so up in the air, you don't have a site, line of sight to see traffic coming, that the owners of that property close that gate down so that they would only have access off of East Avenue.

So I very strongly object to there being any access off of Windfeld at that point because of the danger.

Also, you're putting this tower, frankly, right in the middle of residences.

Um, the one up the hill is not surrounded by houses, and this one you're putting right in the middle of where people live.

Um, I object to that.

I don't think that that's a good place.

You also said that it's visible from East Avenue and Windfeld, it's clearly going to be visible from 2nd Street as well.

Um, so I'm just, you know, it's so it impacts all along 2nd Street on that upper area.

The all of Windfeld, it probably impacts.

I'm sorry, I don't know the name of the street, but the street that goes up off of Windfelt, across from the Winchester.

I'm sure that all of those homes along Winchester will also have clear visibility of an 80 foot, I think you said it was 80 foot high fake tree.

Um, I mean, I'd love to see that fake tree someplace away from homes.

I just don't think it belongs in the middle of a residential area.

Um, and I don't know, I don't even know the right questions to ask in terms of um, is there, I'm gonna use the wrong word again, like radiation, or is there that's not the right word, but is there something that spews out of that thing or uh and noise?

You know, right now my neighbor put in a heating air conditioning unit right outside their house between our houses, it's like one foot away from our house.

Well, maybe three feet.

We hear that thing running all the time.

So when people tell you that it's you know it's quiet, you can't hear it.

I don't buy that.

I think you get something of that magnitude sitting right in the middle of a residential area, people are gonna hear it.

I can't imagine that it won't be heard when it's right in the middle of a residential area.

So I guess I don't have questions.

I just have a statement.

Um, some of the your concern.

My concern is noise, visibility, and appropriate and and and the the distance, you know, the difference between a thousand feet and what'd you say a hundred and fifty feet?

It's huge, it's not like it's it's 950 feet instead of a thousand feet.

You know, you're you're talking about the distance says a thousand feet, it says a thousand feet for a reason, and and skinning it down to a hundred and fifty feet, that like totally flies in the face of the safety and socially conscious, you know, implementation of something like this in the middle of a residential area.

Um, why aren't you putting it up on the hill, you know, or sharing with the other tower?

Um, this just seems completely inappropriate to me.

So that's my statement.

And you know, maybe if you could maybe if you could go power it up someplace where you have one and bring it in here so we could listen to it, play it for us, we'd see just how quiet it is.

I just don't think that it's so the difference between a thousand feet and a hundred and fifty feet or whatever it was you said, two fifty, I think you said a hundred and fifty.

Um it's not even close.

It's not even close.

And they and they said a thousand feet for a reason, right?

It was a thousand feet for a reason.

So, yeah.

Um the uh the reasons that uh because these existing uh GPG tower have been occupied by um other provider, and there was no room for the co-location.

The applicant have submitted um many site, the selection um document that showed no um this is the best one that they uh deselects from the list that they have.

Um, I think the applicants probably can explain more about how they select it.

The um these um just because of this site is commercial, so that's why we were like um looking at these.

So if that tower is put up there, does that mean that there is absolutely gonna be no building on that site whatsoever in the future?

Well, like no condominiums, no houses, no nothing on that property.

Um 2022, we have the permanently plan that came for the uh five commercial development and 19 units that came to the to the UMAC.

Right.

Um but that's just permanently planned uh projects opposing.

Uh we have not received any line actual a um application development application.

But it could be they could it could be, yes, yeah.

They could be potentially, yes, great.

No.

Thousand feet's a thousand feet.

I just don't buy it.

We'll go to member Higgins next, and then would definitely like to hear ATT Nick address some of these concerns as well.

Chris yeah uh thank you for your presentation um yeah the the thousand feet and I I'm I'm I'm anxious to hear what the the applicant says about that I reading into the very tiny print on the thing we got which with a magnifying glass I couldn't even read it so I had the I I downloaded the the PDF and and uh blew it up and uh there's buried in the detail there there's there's some um uh there's some technical reasons that the uh it can't be placed with it the T Mobile um cell site across the street um not the least of which uh there's no uh it's my understanding is there there's there's no room within the footprint of that tower to add more equipment that's correct and and there's um it has to be within the footprint of that tower for some technical reasons um and uh let's see and I'm concerned about the noise coming from there and specifically uh the generator um I I didn't see this the specs in in the um plans for the the noise that the generator is gonna generate and they'd be doing some testing with that on a periodic basis and and again we have we have residences close to that uh far closer than um the cell site we and in this uh in in this Mac approved over off of Fairview Avenue in 2019 oh Dale's not here uh I I think it was remember that's that that cell site on Fairview it was 2019 or 2018 it was early on I we we started this Mac started 2017 I think so what one of our first ones.

We can't have participation from the audience Chris okay sometime in the past.

Anyway um but that was significantly had that was further away from any residences um and uh I again I I'm not I'm not comfortable I know the specs say there's there's no harmful omissions uh within the distances that they show in the in in here but I'm I'm concerned about it and I I'm I'm anxious to hear what ATT says about it.

Um let me grab my the rest of my uh so I I would like to have some wording about the no substitution of um what are the the contractors call it uh similar equipment, right?

Because the contractors, when they put things in, they'll they'll always go cheap, right?

And they'll say, you know, it's it's it's equivalent.

Well, I've never had in my experience and and I do this kind of stuff.

Uh I've I've never had that really be um incredible that the contractors just lie.

Um second Sally's concern about the access off of Winfeld.

That's that's really a big deal.

Um yeah, uh on page seven, I I circled the uh the noise uh the noise issues.

I think the rest of my comments come a little further in.

Yeah, it would be helpful for the um ATT representative uh to talk about the the emissions.

You there's a mitigation overview on page six of 16 in the uh the technical thing that uh I'm I'm scratching my head.

Um I see adjacent building 20 feet, adjacent building 20 feet, the adjacent building 20 feet, and it oh you gotta speak into the microphone.

Yeah, you guys I'm so bad.

I I I appreciate that.

Um I I would like to have the ATT representative explain what those are.

I I looked at it and I said, gee, did they have do they have some plans to build three buildings on the site?

But we'll we'll let the ATT representative talk to talk to us about that.

Okay.

Um can then stab address uh the noise quickly interpolate.

Um the um the noise, um sometimes communication with the applicants uh the statement say that um the the noise level shouldn't be more than 56 decibels, however, this is the measurement is formed at 23 feet from the uh the generated unit.

So um and also what the um the the proposed the creative eight feet fence so that's kind of helping with the buffling on of a noise level as well, but um the applicant probably uh explain more in detail about this one.

Yeah, it we'll give him a chance to okay to explain and then maybe we can uh follow up with some questions there.

Okay, um, I'm I'm a a lot more concerned with what our neighbors in the in the community have to say about this.

So uh I'll pass it on.

Thanks, Chris.

Five Sherroots.

Thank you for the presentation.

I have um several lines of questioning.

Um the first is I'm trying, and let me preface this by saying I am I'm not an expert in kind of the zoning of this, nor um in how these towers operate.

Um so that might be it might just be some clarifying from ATT.

Um, but the first thing I'm trying to understand is, are we is the thinking to put this monopine here is because it's zoned commercially?

Is that why it's being placed there?

No, I think this is the best uh selected site that formed the applicant um the list that API can provide it.

Do we have other monopine uh throughout the community in Fairview?

I heard Chris talk about another one that was on Fairview Avenue.

Do we have others around the community?

I don't believe that was uh monopy.

The the one that's off a fair view is similar to the uh T-Mobile across the way, where the the antennas are they didn't put a pole in or a pine tree or whatever.

They just mounted it on the uh the support equipment for the uh high tension wires.

Those those big things.

Uh and and they uh uh they mention in the in the fine print here that um that equipment has to be uh again under when it's underneath the high tension lines that equipment's gotta be within the footprint of the tower that's supporting the power things, but we'll all defer to the expert from ATT on that.

So this uh currently that exists on this commercially zoned plot is a PGE tower that is currently not being used as PGE.

It has a T-Mobile.

No, okay.

Can you explain to me what currently exists there?

Um just a two uh building structures.

I think I believe it was a commercial um parking lot.

Uh okay, surrounded.

Um, um can the clerks kind of put on a slice on the aerial view?

They might show the uh where is the existing.

It's 16 of six of 16.

I see it here.

That's um that is not there, the adjacent building that show on the report.

Okay, you see on the slides right there and the red dot, that's existing only existing buildings, and there was a little one on uh um like on the knot of that.

Okay, the existing um PGD tower is on the east side, like upper corner.

You see a litter, like wiggle lot that they have a little structured there that does the PGD tower where it says PD.

Father ops on the uh um uh uh I see.

Yes.

So the so the exemption of the hundred and fifty feet is from that particular PGE tower.

That's correct.

Uh wait a minute.

I'm sorry, uh wouldn't you say the proposals?

So Sally had asked earlier about an exemption, and then I understood that the exemption was that this proposed monopine would be 150 feet from the current PGE.

No, um the policy is require a thousand feet separation, um, but it can be uh closer if it's the approval uh is obtained to the C UP.

But closer to what?

What are what are we comparing?

Closer to uh um because each other late no separation can be less than a thousand feet.

Are you referring to the T-Mobile site?

Marsh, is it the thousand feet over to that property line?

No, from the site.

From what?

Between the site.

Between what site?

Site, what is a site?

Um the telecom uh the telecommunication facility site.

I mean, uh the the I'm sorry, uh the the facility itself.

I'm sorry.

Which is the building or the PGE Tower?

The tower.

So I don't think you got the right answer, Try again.

So currently, I so there's two objects the monopine that's proposed, and it needs to be at least a thousand feet from what?

What is this other object?

Ladies and gentlemen of the council, uh, I am the applicant's agent, and if you would like, I have uh a great amount of detail.

I would be more than happy to help uh answer some of these questions.

Uh if you would like.

Yes, and I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be rude at all.

I was just trying to understand um if that's okay with you, Todd.

If you would like, uh my name is Nicholas Tagis.

If you would like some uh additional information from me, I would be more than happy, uh happy to um help here answer some questions.

How would you like to perceive?

I definitely appreciate that.

Did you have any other questions you wanted to put in there before Nick gets the floor?

Yeah, that would be great.

Um, so I think the first thing I'm trying to understand is um the relationship of the proposed monopine to this exemption.

So I'm trying to get an understanding of that and it directly in the my line of thinking is I'm trying to understand what the effects are of the radio admissions.

Um back to both Chris and Sally's concern because it's also a concern of mine.

I'm trying to understand um if this exception is made, what is the ramifications of that exception, if it's in relation to another tower that potentially is um has radio emissions, and if that's compounded, what the uh human impact is on that.

Um so that's kind of my first line of of questions, um, and the other line of questions I have is around the um policing or enforcement of this.

Um I wrote it was able to read, I believe on page six of our report.

Uh no, actually, starting on page nine, um, there's a public um number 10 public safety interference.

This begins to discuss um the FCC rules and regulations as it applies to in this case ATT, and there um are some uh processes that are outlined in terms of following um you know what potential radio admissions are going to be um how it will impact the environment uh there and then it proceeds uh on page 10 um around liability and status reports.

Um, the I have a lot of lines of questions around that, but namely the concept is uh who makes sure any of this happens, who um enforces that from the onset, and then um there is a suggestion.

I don't know that I made note, but it says somewhere in here that there is a check-in around six months and then every five years thereafter.

I but there's no indication of what how we review um whether or not the um radio admissions are accurate to the ATT projections because we do have a report here from ATT about what they project to be um the radio admissions, and that starts on page three of 16 in their executive summary.

So there is a projection, and I think what I'm hoping to understand possibly from Nick, is that's good and well, and we appreciate you doing the leg work, but also want um some accountability and understand how we're gonna hold you two have any accountability in this.

So I probably have detailed questions, but that's like the general thinking.

And Nick, I'll throw in a couple more.

It probably would have been handy if we did your presentation immediately after staff, but you can probably address these as you're speaking.

Obviously, there's a need for signal.

That's why the towers being proposed.

You know, we know there's lower power emissions, typically in the U.S.

towers.

Coming from the wireless world in the past.

I'd be curious who all will be serviced by this tower.

Is it ATT?

Is it cricket?

Is it data?

Is it voice?

What exactly is the goal here?

And what will it accomplish or improve?

Um, I'm curious if there's other options than the 80-foot option.

Obviously, the taller the farther the signal usually gets through, depending on your ban.

But are there 60 foot options or others that aren't quite as obtrusive?

I'd be curious to hear from Pat at the end.

What objections were received at county?

I'd also be very curious to hear.

I think the real question around this 1,000 foot question mark is there's a reason it can't be within a thousand feet of another network's tower.

Why is that?

Is it the radiation that's put out?

Is it the signal?

Is there a hum?

Is there feedback?

Is there cross contamination with the signals?

Um I definitely agree with the no access we've heard.

They can probably get to it through the front parking lot as they use now.

Um, I'm also curious if there's other site options.

Do you guys only rent space?

Do you ever buy land?

You know, why this particular site?

So I know you've heard a lot of things.

We'll give you the floor.

You can speak as long as you want, and then we can ask some follow-up questions and go from there.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Um members of the Fairview Municipal Advisory Council.

I would have been here tonight, but it was my uh son's sixth birthday tonight.

Um I uh am an East Bay hardcore resident.

Uh, my wife and I moved up to the Sacramento area.

We were um pushed out from costs of living, um, which is why I can't be there tonight.

Uh so here is a few of the sort of um comments I can address.

So uh let's start with that thousand foot radius to the nearest adjacent cell tower.

The understanding of Alameda's zoning code is that they don't want to see the proliferation of cell towers popping up everywhere.

That's very reasonable.

It's very understandable.

Just because I have a cell phone in my pocket, and I would I would assume that everyone in the audience right now has a cell phone in their hand in their pocket.

That doesn't make it okay to pop up cell towers every thousand feet.

Now, the T Mobile equipment is not in installed on a cell tower.

It is their antennas are on a PGNE electrified tower.

This ATT proposed tower is not a hundred feet away, it's actually over 600 feet away.

But regardless, let's discount the distance of 600 feet.

T-Mobile has put their antennas both above and below the conductors of that PG and E tower.

What does that mean?

It means that below the electrified lines that provide energy to the community are antennas, and it also means that above those electrified conductors are an additional set of antennas.

That means that there is no place or space for an additional carrier's antennas on that PGNE electrified tower.

So when ATT analyzed the area, they first looked for existing utilities to put their antennas on.

When that study was conducted, and there was no existing quote towers in the area to be found that their antennas could be placed on, the next most reasonable viable space was a commercial property owned by a family who's had long standing in the community, and it's again zoned commercial, and the best part about this location was that it was furthest not only from D Street, but Fairview, while also being able to provide a third of the community with strong and reliable cell service.

So what we're talking about is there's only three carriers that provide reliable cell service in Alameda County.

T-Mobile, Verizon, ATT.

And in this very, very specific area, a third of your constituents in the residents are ATT customers.

And right now, there is no strong and reliable cell service for those customers.

And when we go back to, you know, earlier in the evening, we talk about Officer Paps and Cox's communications about crime prevention units, service delivery, shared responsibility, you know, side shows.

This is what we're talking about.

When we build infrastructure in our communities, we build homes, we build water, sewer, electricity, but we fail to understand is there's a fourth leg, which is communications, and again, I I stress upon this, I really do.

Where I live now, we don't have landlines anymore.

We have Wi-Fi, but when the power goes out, we lose the ability to communicate with these cell towers.

When the power goes out, we can still communicate.

Why?

It's because they not only have backup batteries to allow us to talk to each other, but when the power goes out, there is a backup generator that allows us to still communicate in the events of emergencies or major power outages.

Now, I I grew up in Milpitas before I moved to the East Bay, and in 1989, when we were part of the Loma Prieta earthquake, we lost everything in our townhome.

And I I specifically remember this, and obviously at that time we had landlines, but if we have another earthquake because of liquefaction, and again in Alameda County is very susceptible to this, if we do not have strong and reliable, critical communication infrastructure, this is part of what we're talking about.

And in this uh location, we helped ATT find a parcel that was already zoned, commercial, and was furthest away from rural residential and dense residential, and at the same time, this parcel and many parcels around it have a future design to provide for and build high density residential units.

That's what we're talking about.

What we're talking about is providing for more residential units in this area without providing for communication services for a third of the residents of the county.

Now, in terms of the concerns for health impacts, I heard um one of the concerns was about noise, visibility, as well as radiation, and I know that radiation is a taboo subject.

I know that jurisdictions are prohibited from, you know, um making decisions based on it, but let's talk about that.

Let's talk about radiation, let's just get it out in the open.

What is radiation?

Radiation is light reflecting off of an object.

If you look up right now at your members of your council, the only reason why you can see them is because the light from the ceiling is bouncing off their face and raiding onto you.

Antennas emit light.

That's how data is transferred from an antenna to your phone.

That's how I can see you right now.

If there was a camera on me, you could see my ugly face.

I wish I was more handsome, but I'm not.

But that's what radiation is.

There is non-ionizing and ionizing radiation.

Non-ionizing radiation is when you use your remote control when you go home and watch a TV show.

That's what cell towers and cell phones are.

What is radiation that is ionized?

Ionized is X-rays when you go to the dentist.

That's why they put a vest on you.

That's why you when you go outside in the sun, you get burned.

That's because ionized rays in the sun stay in your skin and your body.

Cell phones are the same wavelength as radios in your car.

That's why it doesn't hurt when you are on your phone when your phone is just a few feet away from you.

If you're Googling something real quick and looking up something, or if you're driving and you're listening to your radio station, and most importantly, though, for the uh the council, the state, the federal government, and international bodies all require that if any one carrier is allowed to bring in critical communication services, they have to adhere to international laws about exposure.

So it's not as if America has one standard, Asia has another, Europe has another, they all are part of the same international body.

And over the last 30 years, what we have found is not only have cell towers and cell phones have increased, but cancer rates and the death of cancer rates have declined.

So if there was such a thing as cell phones and cell towers uh increase in cancer, you would see that the amount and number of phones and towers are uh uh increasing at the same rate as cancer, but in fact, you have the inverse rate, and you don't have to take my word for it, you can look that up, and even though this isn't part of the uh uh per you know area of of jurisdiction from these just you know from jurisdictions local.

I wish it was, but what I'm telling you is that if you just look at the numbers, the facts are what they are, but what I see is most important in Alameda County is crime and safety tonight.

We spent over two hours talking about community enforcement, safety, that's what we're talking about, and just the ability.

My children live in a rural community that is underserved, and when our internet goes out, having that ability for communication is so critical, it's very very critical.

So, with that, I I believe I've I've over you know spoken my time, and I I understand that I'm not a member of your community, even though I'm from East Bay Hardcore, I totally get it.

Um, please, if you have very specific questions for me, uh I I am more than happy to answer them.

Thanks, Nick.

I'm gonna open it up for public comment, and then we'll come back to the council.

Jane Sylvester.

So I'm Jane Sylvester, I live on Meadway.

Okay, I'm Jane Sylvester, I live on Meadway.

So that view you saw at the end of the street with the tree sickening up, that's our view.

So I'm not very happy about that view.

Um, maybe you'd like to plant some real trees around it and make it look kind of nice back there.

Um, I'm wondering whether you're aware that the the limbs on those trees are only warranted for one year, so that's not very promising in my opinion.

Uh it's gonna need constant maintenance.

Uh, I don't know if you've been out there and looked at the ground, but Winfeld is very steep down and steep up, and then access on that road is unattainable because you can come from my street over to Winton and go down, and all of a sudden a car is pulling out of that driveway.

So that access needs to be closed and stay closed.

That uh where we go down the hill and then up the hill at the bottom is a gully.

That gully fills with water behind that store.

I don't know if you realize how deep that gully is and how steep that uh ravine is behind the store.

If you haven't been out there to look at it, then you don't realize what you're looking at.

The flat the fat the maps all look flat and nice and easy to work on, but it is not like that behind that store.

Um, also, we are not open to more housing.

We have been fighting more housing in that area for years, and we will continue to do so.

And we oppose any additional housing in that area, which you seem to be planning for.

So I'm concerned about the ravine.

I don't like the view.

I'm concerned about the traffic on Winfeld and the access road you want to use.

And um, and the general it looks like it's just a big fake tree, is what it looks like.

It is not appealing.

You plant some trees around it.

Maybe it would be more accessible, but you have to plant a dozen trees.

Thanks.

Mary, Carol.

Okay, Barry, Carol.

Don't hate me.

Uh, I think the tree looks beautiful compared to a seven story 91 unit development.

Um, the county in this proposal, they show that the existing buildings are gone and they plan on putting other buildings in that area.

Um, I'm concerned about the height of those buildings and what they're gonna turn into.

I don't know that much about, but the county is not even talking about further development.

And the latest thing we got rolled over with the last supervisors in December last year was we can do what we want.

I believe this gentleman is gonna lease this land and take that money to continue developing that property way bigger than it should be.

Now, my question would be to the county and ATT, how high can you put buildings around this tree?

And the lady that was speaking, she's got a good point, you know.

Put some trees there, don't put houses, put some trees if you want to take money from the land and money from the ATT.

Camouflage it, you know, keep a little store, whatever you've got to do.

But you know, it does stand out more than it should.

But I'm not opposed to the actual thing.

I don't think the the radiation or any of the signals are gonna be affecting anybody.

But I know if you start putting housing in there, well, they're gonna be way too close for possibly receiving those uh transmissions.

Um, don't hate me because I like the tree, but think about the future.

And the county guy there, he's not very vocal about oil.

The development is uh uh, um, from what I understand, the laws for the development that mandate the big buildings don't happen till June of this year.

So hopefully there's time to stop that.

But if this tree stops major development, I'm all for it.

Other than that, best of luck.

Vanya Taylor.

I am Vanya Taylor, and I live on Colony View.

So that tree will impede when I look.

So if I wanted to live in San Francisco by a Trans-America building, I would have moved there.

So I think the tree is definitely too high for our neighborhood.

We have a um a document that outlines what our neighbor should neighborhood should look like and how it should continue to look.

We live in a single-family neighborhood, and we're not in there with high-rises and 80-foot tree.

I think it's just way too high.

And additionally, there's there's so much land.

If you actually go in the Fairview area, there's a lot of blank land where absolutely nothing is there where you could put this 80-foot tree or put something.

I think it should be a little lower because I'm sure wherever you are, you can see it impede somebody, but I think you could have looked for a better area where it actually would fit in.

And rather than it's almost like if you put it in the middle of the street and we have to drive around it to go home.

So I think you should um look at another location rather than having the tree there.

Um let's see what else did I do.

Um and I know Nick, you mentioned we we don't live in a high density community, so um that's definitely not there.

And let's see, so um, and then I think what you said that are the area we live in is one-third ATT.

I'm sorry.

Um, I'm Verizon Xfinity, so it doesn't help me at all.

Not that that makes any difference, but I want to make sure that you know there are you know other people there.

And um, like was one other thing that I put here about this.

Um there, but I just think that the um I think a better location would be better because like I said, we don't live down in the city, and there's plenty of um land that's available that we could possibly look at to put that in.

So that's all I have.

Thank you.

Caller, you're on the line.

You have three minutes, Bobby.

Hi, this is this is Bob Clark.

Resident Uh Fairview.

Let's get back to the basics.

Let's get to homework a second.

If this is an action item, so it should have been studied.

This is an Alameda County conditional use permit request.

There are findings required that this that the use will serve public needs, fit the area's character, will not harm health and safety, welfare, relates well to infrastructure, ensures its compatibility with the general plan and zoning, often with specific uh conditions like operational hours, parking or landscaping to mitigate impacts, and whatever you decide tonight is supposed to go to the planning commission where they will also review an application for consistency.

So, what are the four conditions?

Very simple.

Number one, and the answers are yes and no.

And if any of these are no, then you have to vote no.

Number one, public need, use must serve a public need or be required for the community.

Yes, it does serve a public need for ATT.

I'm sorry that they missed the boat on getting uh getting their transmission in uh in order and T Mobile stole the fire, whatever.

But I don't think it meets a public need, I think it meets ATT's need.

Combatibility must be properly related to surrounding land uses, transportation and services, and not to be detrimental to the neighborhood's character or livability.

That's a definite no.

Number three, public welfare use under specific conditions must not adversely affect the health, safety, or general welfare of residents, or be injurious to property.

Sally brought up a good point.

They open up that side road to Winfield.

You've got a serious possible traffic problem there, and uh, plus there's an 80-foot tall tree right next to residential neighborhoods.

That's a no.

Last was zoning compliance.

Project must meet and align with the county's general plan, satisfy applicable zoning district requirements, including site standards and setbacks and parking.

Who knows what the zoning requirements are gonna be in the future for the Bahill Foods property?

You know, if they end up being some kind of a multi-use residential, four-story condos or somebody's little balcony looking 30 feet away into an 80-foot tall monopine tree.

So out of the four basic requirements for CPU, I would say that uh most likely it hits a no on every one of them.

And I don't see how you can possibly um accept this proposal from the uh planning department who didn't address any of these specific things, they're just addressing what the tower is gonna be, and uh it fails on all fronts as a uh conditional use permit.

Thank you.

Speakers for this item.

Okay, okay.

We'll do another round at the council.

We'll start with you, Member Fulden.

Um well said, Bobby.

Um I appreciated that list that you went down.

My I have all of those concerns.

I have a concern about noise.

One of the things that Vanessa brought up was accountability.

I will have to say that over maybe the last 30 years, I've been in the in Fairview for over 40, but last 30 years that I've been active in the neighborhood, my experience with code enforcement has been has really it's been a hundred percent fail.

They have failed in every single issue of code enforcement that has been brought up over the years.

I have absolutely no confidence that this tower will get put in, it'll be giving us all headaches because of the noise, because I'm already experiencing that with my little neighborhood thing.

And yeah, um that's my comment.

Member Higgins.

Thank you, Nick, for your presentation that that was helpful, and thank you, Bobby.

As you always do, you boil things down to the lowest common denominator.

Um I I wonder why ATT didn't consider putting this on the um PGE right away on the tower that's uh on second street by the condos.

It's uh, you know, all the cell towers in or most of the cell towers, all the cell towers in Fairview are are mounted on those, and it's you know, it's out of the way.

Um it's at least as far from residences as the the other ones.

Um I do agree it would the tower the this cell tower would make it difficult to put in a high-rise residential building on that lot.

Um Sally, I really agree with you on the accountability issue, and I I don't like to beat up on um the county organizations, but um when has uh the periodic review of a conditional use permit ever happened on time.

You know, we we found out that no conditional use permits or no no hearings uh on the conditional use permit for um Woodrow Woods had happened over, right?

Um, and I'm not throwing rocks at Woodrow Woods or the the was it North Stores, the the the schools that's in there now.

Um they're they're they're good neighbors.

Um then we have the uh what was it five or six million dollars that the county had to give back to developers because um again community development sat on it for too long, you know, the the the these are mitigation fees, right?

That they they pay.

And if if the county doesn't you do anything with them for five years, they have to give them back to the people that paid them, rightfully so.

Um and so uh hard lost out on millions of dollars.

So and here this is show we they say we're they were gonna have a check-in in six months and then every five years that doesn't have any credibility I I'm not comfortable saying that but um I don't know I'm I'm just I agree we need the infrastructure um but I'd have to convince me that that putting it on uh the the um the the PGE power line over on 2nd Street would be a better location I appreciate that member Higgins I think those are all extremely intelligent questions to be asked and if I were in your position I would have asked that question too in fact the PGE tower at those condos was one of the first places that ATT looked again when there's already infrastructure in place ATT Verizon T-Mobile they always look for infrastructure that's already built so that they can just add their uh excuse me antennas onto that in this case PGE owns their utility towers but they do not own the ground underneath the underlying landlord the private property owner owns that land now they grant easements whether they grant that uh when they buy the property because they say yes or because they have to in most cases when uh utilities are already in place those are utility easements in perpetuity so in this case ATT went to the underlying landlord and asked if they would lease them ground space because again there's ground equipment and then there's tower equipment and because ATT is a private corporation they're not a government agency they cannot take that land away so because of that underlying property owner not willing to or not wanting to grant that uh ground space ATT was not uh able to use eminent domain to take that property from them to then put their antennas on that tower so when you look at that PGNE tower that T Mobile put their antennas on they're leasing for a dollar amount per month to PGE on that tower and then that land below that tower they're also paying a private property owner who owns that land a separate monthly rent.

Now because ATT went to those private property owners and they just were not willing or unable ATT then had to pivot and find a private property owner within the area the next thing that they did was they looked for commercial properties they didn't look for rural residential or rural properties you know one of the comments that we heard was that commercial is better than rural residential we understand that there's a public need but just not here well we're gonna find that everywhere and so what we do is we help the county and the city look for areas in the code with properties that are more designed for this in this case commercial why commercial because this is a commercial need and this property is zoned that.

And that's where ATT decided to try and pursue it.

They had a willing landlord.

They had a property that was zoned for that.

And this is where we are today.

One of the comments that Mrs.

Philbin, you had a very reasonable concern, which is about accountability.

And I agree with you.

When you look upon code enforcement for accountability, you don't find that.

I agree with you.

But in this case, there is a very strict lease agreement in place between two private entities.

And that accountability can be adjudicated in law if one of those parties does not adhere to those compliances.

And because there's a fiduciary responsibility to adhere to that, those items happen much faster than when we have a third-party arbiter trying to adjudicate that only through code compliance.

But more importantly, the county itself has a code compliance requirement.

So let's just say in four years from now, ATT would like to upgrade some of their antennas.

And they go to the county, they want to remove and replace some antennas, but they're not out of compliance.

The right then and there, the county has extreme police power to prevent them from doing anything further until they fix those compliances.

Hey Nick, I'm gonna cut you short because we only got till nine o'clock.

We were in the middle of council final comments.

We can come back if there's additional questions.

Did you have a couple more to add?

Yeah, I'll try to make it brief.

Um, I'd like to appreciate Nick for the additional information.

Specifically, want to very much appreciate the public for coming out, folks that are going to be impacted.

It's very important that we hear from you all.

Um, and I um want to underscore my concern around the accountability, and I just want to point out again on page nine of our packet that um for there is number 13 RF EMF emissions, and under there, it is unclear what the process is for us as a community for the county to check on that.

Um I uh very much appreciate Nick your um instruction on radio admissions, but with all due respect, there's a reason why there's a report, and it's because there's a concern there, and so I'm concerned, and I think other people should be as well.

So there is a report that um determines the projected RFEMF emissions, and it needs to fit within the standards.

What is the process in which we are going to follow to have any accountability?

Um, there is number 16 status reports again.

I want to ask the same question who makes sure this happens.

How does this come back in front of us?

And um, lastly, I want to point out that there is a indication on page nine number 11 that there is uh a need for a fire department approval.

And uh feel free to read that on your own time.

But again, I have the same question, which is who approves this, what is the follow-up, how do we, what is the feedback loop on that?

Because um, on my short time here, it there have been several examples in which these things fall through the cracks, and I think our community deserves better.

I agree with you, and here's two ways that we can help the community.

Sorry, Nick, I'm gonna service a little bit.

No, I think we need this if we answered that question.

So there's two mechanisms, yeah.

So this is an action item tonight.

I'm gonna make my comments.

We can decide if we need to continue this or where we go from here.

You know, I see a lot of pluses to the tower that first off it fills a need.

If there's an emergency, I've been to ball games and I've been in places where everybody overloads the circuits and nobody's phones work.

Firemen, a lot of people need phones to work.

We get that that's a need.

We also see that there's other areas that have these mixes, you know.

One thing I didn't hear tonight is there's more than one PGE tower within a couple hundred feet.

What about all those other towers?

I think I heard they were pursuing that first, then went down the commercial route, but there are lots of towers along the roads.

Tonight, a lot of the comment was around a big tree and visibility, not health concerns, not things about the stuff that comes out of there, other than a couple of comments here and there.

We do know that there could be potential issues.

We also know that there's antennas all over the place around us, and a big tree is a lot better than a big metal tower or a 92 unit complex.

They mentioned one third of the customers are ATT.

I personally had ATT and I left them because my phone didn't work a lot of the time.

And I live right in that area, so I definitely see a need for this.

I also know there's a long list of requirements in this hand packet that would have to be met.

You know, to Miss Rhodes' point, fires involved, public works is involved.

There's a lot of agencies.

How do we know they'll do it right?

That's not ATT's really problem.

They have to adhere to it, but you know, that's some of the administrative and too that needs to be covered.

We hear a lot about noise.

It's my belief the generator really only runs when the power goes out, which is when you need it to run so that the phones still work.

Otherwise they die.

Again, I have a place in the hills, and when power goes out and there's a big fire, number one thing we're looking for is internet connection, communications updates.

It's important for our safety.

I really came in here in the middle.

Mr.

Clark brought up some great points.

You know, is it a public need?

We could play devil's advocate either way.

Yes, there's a need.

Is it a great option?

Not sure.

Is there compatibility to the area?

And the tree is probably the nicest of the designs I've seen.

We've all seen the eyesores that are out there.

You know, so if there is a need, is a tree the best route to go with it?

Does it have to be 80 foot?

Probably needs the height.

There's a lot of hills up there, and I noticed the signal before work scenarios and not others.

Public welfare, we talked about that in emergency.

Emergency responders, people, you know.

One of the first things I bought was a wind-up solar powered phone charger, so my phone still works so we can get the news and updates and what's going on around us with fires, etc.

And then zoning compliance, obviously, that's really why it's here in front of us.

I know the FCC's got a lot of rules.

You know, you can't really block towers everywhere.

I'm still curious on this whole 1,000 foot piece, but you know, there's a lot of pluses there.

But again, I was really in the middle and wanted to hear from everybody else.

And tonight I've heard a little bit on the safety.

You know, it isn't a parking lot, a ways away from some of the houses, it's not going in somebody's backyard.

There definitely is some needs, but how safe is it?

Do we want it?

What does the board think?

So those are my two cents.

It's an action item.

Again, we've got option one is continue or get more info.

Or option two is if somebody wants to start working towards a motion, we can knock that out as well.

All right.

I um I move that the uh conditional use permit permit be denied.

I second it.

Roll call.

Rule call.

We're denying the uh conditional use permit.

Uh council can can you like define what I means and what no means?

So I means that the conditional use permit will be denied, and a no means that it won't be denied.

Correct.

Okay.

So I, if you want to deny it, no, if you want to approve it.

Okay, the the motion in the second is to deny the conditional use permit.

Council member Farmer is excused.

Council member Higgins to deny the C U P.

I'm gonna say I right now.

So that's denying it, right?

Correct.

Okay, I'm I'm gonna do that.

I'm conflicted.

Um, you know, maybe somewhere down the pike where I get some more information.

I'll change my mind, but right now, um, especially the tenor of the community.

Um, I've got to respect the the tenor of the community, I've heard.

So yeah, I'll I'll go.

Yeah.

Councilmember Philbin.

Hi.

Vice Chair Rhodes.

Hi.

Chair Englin.

No.

Okay, motion passed to deny the conditional use permit three to one.

Thank you.

Ashley, what's her hard stop like?

Do we have one or two minutes to wrap up?

Okay.

Thank you, Pat.

Thank you, Nick.

Um, thank you.

We'll close out that item, and I've got so many notes written on my agenda now.

Chair's report, I don't have anything.

I'm gonna move right into the subcommittee report with the fireworks ordinance.

Um, some of you have been looking for updates there, and I had a good conversation very recently, and there are still regular calendared meetings going on internally with the Sheriff's Department regarding the fireworks ordinance.

Um, it sounds like there is some um findings or are getting close to you know, describing what is the primary evidence look like for what would trigger a fine after firework versus what would a secondary evidence look like, like if a neighbor turned in video, et cetera.

Um, and this was cleared by Sergeant Imperial today.

Um there have been multiple drafts submitted to council, so they've rewritten it several times sent to back.

They're trying to get a wording, which then they can bring to the Macroad shows, and then there'd be a couple other um unincorporated services or BZA or other entities that may go to, and then it would have a couple of readings from the Board of Supervisors to finalize it.

Their goal is still to have it finalized by July 4th.

I just mentioned a lot of steps to hit before 4th of July.

We know that's getting very close, but they are still working hard on the 4th of July goal for this year.

Um they're still working on finalizing their fine process and their wording.

You know, a great example would be what happens if a tenant is there and the owner lives in Nebraska, for example.

So they're working out some of the fine uh pieces there.

And next steps, they're hoping to have this coming to the road show with the Macs, hopefully within the next month or so.

So we may be seeing them back here in person to present more on that as well.

So, you think to add?

Yeah, you have a speaker on your report.

Okay, we'll open public comment.

Caller, you're on the line.

You have three minutes, Brenda.

Yes, hi.

Um, thank you, Todd, for the report.

Um we have heard this for so many years, that they're working on it, and I think the question now is what is the hesitation?

I know uh the sheriff's working on our draft, and they have county legal to work on that uh draft, and I'm wondering why everybody's not working together to get that draft done.

We are, as far as I know, the only jurisdiction within spitting distance of uh Fairview, Hayward, uh, San Ramon, Danville, Contra Costa County, San Mateo County, San Jose, Santa Clara County that does not have an ordinance in place.

The ordinance is simple.

We already uh fireworks are already by statute illegal and unincorporated Alameda County.

We just don't have a viable enforcement procedure that's in the code.

Like who do you call and can the sheriff's department take uh videos from homeowners instead of having to eye witnesses?

That's simple.

So I'm at the point where I want to ask the subcommittee, Todd.

What is this?

What is the stall process?

For years we've been working on this while other jurisdictions get it done in a little bit of time because that's what the community needs.

I don't know if anybody up here in Fairview heard uh the fireworks on New Year's Eve, but I know we did, and they were in our neighborhood.

So, but it's legal here.

It's legal here, it's not legal here, it's illegal everywhere, but we don't have a way to enforce it.

And the sheriff's department needs that tool in their toolbox in order to take uh public complaints seriously and issue citations.

That's it.

And we haven't done it, but every other county and jurisdiction around us has.

So my question is, which I probably won't get an answer to, is what is the problem?

That we can't just move forward.

That's it.

Thank you.

Thank you for the comments, and we hope to see the sheriff here next month.

Hopefully, with a presentation on it.

Moving to council announcements.

Sorry, there's another speaker.

Oh, sorry.

Okay.

Caller, you're on the line.

You have three minutes, Paul.

We're on um subcommittee reports fireworks.

No, I I just wanted to uh let you guys know you have a few new people at uh this uh meeting tonight, and I'm really proud of them.

Um they were there strictly to uh to learn a lot more about the community and and um how it works, and you guys gave them plenty to think about.

They were I don't see them in their seats right now, so I guess it's decided to go home.

But thank you for all your hard work.

Oh, there she is.

And he is so thanks again.

Thanks, Paul.

I'm sure that was going to tie into fireworks somehow.

Moving on to uh council announcements.

Oh, we'll close public comment.

All right, announcements, comments, reports.

Anyone?

Just one thing.

I don't know if any of you saw the announcement, but uh our fire department is uh holding some cert training, community emergency response training, and you'll you can catch the dates on their website, and some of the classes start starting this month.

Thank you, Member Higgins.

Philbin.

Um mark your calendars Sunday, November the 8th, the annual veterans celebration up at Lone Tree Cemetery back to Sunday, November the 8th, 2026.

It was awesome this last year, it's awesome every year, and it's gonna be even better this coming year.

So put it on your calendar so you don't forget.

Thank you.

I doubt we will forget.

Member Rhodes.

I just wanted to uh underscore Paul's appreciation of the community members that were here.

There were also three uh younger women who were here earlier.

I'm not quite sure what the interest was, but it it's very heartfelt to see community here, and I hope we can see more people in the chairs here uh over the months to come.

Thank you.

Anything from staff?

Uh to answer your question on who the three young ladies were.

Uh they were from Hayward High, and it was a school assignment to uh attend a meeting.

So um that's great.

Uh the only thing for me I have is an adjustment to your schedule for June.

Uh we will have to move your uh meeting from Tuesday to Thursday, June 4th, uh, due to the ROV requesting the room for primary elections.

And I'll make sure that that's reflected on the website.

Well, thank you.

We've got one more comment.

Okay, I'm sorry, I forgot I was going to say this.

I still am concerned that we don't meet in Fairview or someone close somewhere close by.

This is a hardship for Fairview people.

And you know, hard.

The the we used to meet up at the um the park.

So somewhere closer to Fairview instead of all the way over here at Castro Valley.

Thank you.

And with that, meeting is adjourned.

Have a good night.

Thank you for coming.

Take care.