We will are we rick.

Keep cranking.

Yes.

Okay, we will call the meeting to order.

Um, welcome to our uh March uh reparations commission meeting.

Uh vocal.

Commissioner Brazil, Commissioner Barry, President Commissioner Downs, I'm President Online, Commissioner Gardner here, Commissioner Gayden online, onlineer Gaydon.

Hear me now, sorry.

Here, yes, here.

Commissioner Johnson here.

Commissioner Knowles, excused, Commissioner McClernon, excused, Commissioner Sass.

Commissioner Smaller.

Commissioner Triplett, excuse Commissioner Varlack, excuse, we do have a form.

Thank you.

Okay, uh, any public comments, uh, non-agendized items.

I have no speaker.

Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, I have a speaker for you.

Okay.

Uh Eric, welcome on the line.

Hello.

Uh, uh, my name is Eric Sapp.

I'm a friend and former colleague of Jesse Clyde Burleson.

Um, I uh uh, you know, as you will know, um, he was a uh member of this commission, and um uh I would like to um uh convey that um one of his visions was to make sure that the incarcerated populations uh formerly incarcerated and currently incarcerated populations vision for reparations um could be determined um by this commission as um valuable input and um one of his uh ideas for that was to do jail visits at Santa Rita to talk with the population there about their ideas uh regarding reparations.

Um I don't know if that this commission has done that um in the past, but if it has it should continue, and if it hasn't, it should explore possibilities of doing that to carry on uh Mr.

Burleson's legacy.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

I have no other speakers for public comment.

Uh yes, at the beginning of our um meeting today, we would like to have a moment of silence and recognition for Jesse.

Thank you.

Uh I will like I would like to lift up as well is that we will be having memorial um this Friday uh uh March 20th from 5 to 8 p.m.

at the Albany Community Center.

Um the public is welcome to join in celebration of Jesse's life, as well as the community uh the board of supervisor um has uh issued a memorial commendation, and I'd like to read it here and we'll also be sharing it with his family on Friday.

Uh and it begins whereas the Alameda County Board of Supervisor joins the Alameda County community in one of the passing of Jesse Burles, a respected advocate, organizer, and public servant whose life was devoted to advancing justice, dignity, and opportunity for incarcerated informally incarcerated people from black communities across Alameda County, and whereas Jesse served with dedication as a commissioner on the Alameda County Reparations Commission, where he was the only formally incarcerated commissioner, bringing clarity, lived experience, and moral conviction to the work of confronting historic harms and advancing meaningful meaningful pathways towards repair and equity.

And whereas Jesse Burleson spent 31 years incarcerating California prisons from 1987 to 2018, and after returning home, transformed his life experience into powerful advocacy, speaking openly about the realities of incarceration, prison labor and the challenges faced by people returning home.

And whereas Jesse served as a program manager and policy fellow with legal children, where he worked to uplift voices, rights, and humanity of the incarcerated and formally incarcerated and their family.

And whereas Jesse testified before the California State Assembly and other public forums, appearing in legislative hearings as an advocate and bringing the perspective of directly impacted communities into critical policy discussions about incarceration and justice reform.

And whereas Jesse was a committed member of the incarcerated people's party, uh known as TIP to strengthen civic engagement and political voice for those directly impacted by incarceration and served as the board chair of Diamonds in the Rough, helping expand access to housing stability and supportive services for women and children in need.

Whereas beyond his public service and advocacy, Jesse was a devoted husband and a beloved brother, uncle, and family member whose passion, wisdom, and generosity left an endearing impact on those who knew and loved him.

Now he stands, whereas Jesse stands as a testament to the power of redemption services and collective struggle, and his dedication, his dedication to justice community healing and liberation will continue to inspire the ongoing pursuit of freedom, dignity, and the repair of generations.

Therefore, the Board of Supervisors, County of Alameda, State of California, does therefore thereby recognize and commend the life, legacy, and service of Jesse Clyde Burlson and extends its deepest condolences to his family, friends, colleagues, and the many communities he served.

Very good.

Okay, so um now we we will have a pretty packed agenda.

Um we would like to start with um the framing of the recommendations.

As you know, we have this is such an important period where we will be looking at the recommendations and um summarizing them, prioritizing them.

Uh and so we we are really gonna take our time and focus on this part.

Uh so I will um are we gonna do the minutes?

Oh, we skip that.

Oh, thank you.

Uh yes, we have public um excuse me.

We have a motion to move the minutes.

The move.

Second, uh moved and commissioner Barry.

Okay, follow call.

Commissioner Brazil for approval of the February 11th minutes.

All right, Commissioner Barry.

Aye, Commissioner Dones, Commissioner Gardner, Commissioner Dayton, Commissioner Gore, hi, Commissioner Herskin.

Hi, Commissioner Johnson of Spain, Commissioner Knowles, excuse Commissioner McClendon, all right, Commissioner Sass.

Commissioner Small, Commissioner Tripplett, excuse Commissioner Farland, excuse, willing to prove for Legendary 11, 2026.

I uh for the record, uh excuse my shelf.

Okay, very good, very good.

Yes, okay.

So now um, I'm not sure.

Is informing change on the line?

Yes.

Oh, there is someone.

Michael, can you hear us?

Yes, yes, I can.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Yes.

Great.

Hello, commissioners.

Thank you.

Um, I'm gonna slide through this pretty quickly since I know you have a lot to go through.

And can I share my screen as well?

Um yeah, just a moment.

Uh just the organized time.

Okay.

You can hear me now.

Yes.

Great.

Nice to see you all.

Um, so yeah, I'm gonna go through this pretty quickly.

Um, given there's a lot that you need to go through today.

Um, but I want to share some background information for um you as commissioners as you think through the um recommendations that you've already compiled.

I know it's important to hear from community members what they have shared.

We've shared a previous document of the community listening session, the survey notes, as well as some of the themes that came out from some of the discussions as well.

Obviously, that doesn't capture some of the more recent community listening sessions, and we will try to capture some of those things in the final report.

We also have some survey findings from the descendant assessment and repair, the sort of community-wide survey that was pulled put out through the DAR.

And that's what I'm going to be sharing today.

So demographic characteristics.

So 83%.

Oh, by the way, this is this is our early findings of this.

So there's probably more that we will discover when we do a more detailed look at it.

But just want to give you a quick uh heads up of what's in here.

Um 70% identify as women, 83% as descendants of enslaved persons.

There's a broad age range here.

Um so this didn't skew one way or the other.

It was actually really nicely split across ages.

Same thing with income too.

So this doesn't have a strong skew one way or the other.

It really is a very diverse sample of Black African American identified, mostly women survey respondents to.

So now we're switching a little bit to some of the harms that people have experienced.

Have your family experienced harm related to housing, education, employment.

So basically 83%, uh vast majority of these respondents have experienced some sort of harm.

With respect to policing, uh a lot of the harms, it's it's really high.

So certainly, yes, they've experienced it, and it's really around harassment and unfair treatment, um, more than arrests and bias in that respect.

Um again, remember that most of these respondents are also women, and they are experiencing a lot of harassment from police.

Uh housing has mixed results.

Um, so it's almost even numbers who have have experienced house harm in the housing market, um, and others who have not experienced direct harm in the housing market.

Um, schooling and education um has seen um uh especially around culture, people feeling very harmed, left out excluded um in the education system.

And I'll I'll point to some of that and when I come back to this a little later too.

Um but not as much about getting in trouble in classes, it's really um from the respondents to this survey at this point in time.

It was really about the um uh sort of cultural bias in schools and a cultural exclusion, um, but also obviously some discrimination.

Um experiences of harm from different um or the effects of the harm uh that that has been felt.

Um, a lot really, if you look at the bottom of this, um emotional well-being has been a big one, um, as well as economic.

So housing, economic opportunities, and emotional well-being have been some of the uh sort of subsequent outcomes or challenges from these harms.

Um, and make things around making it harder for family-to-find housing, um, limiting where families can live, so displacement, residence, things like that.

So that's sort of the um just bare bones uh uh quantitative data, the survey responses.

Now I'm gonna really switch over to some of the um qualitative stuff.

Um some of this was shared in the document.

Michael, before you go on, can you say how many people how many people filled out the survey?

Uh at this point, it was 285 was what we had there, but we have a lot more now from from I think there's more in there.

So I think we have reached upward of three 300 something.

Um I don't know if Deb Sika is present, but she would probably have might be able to tell you.

So thank you.

I don't know.

And that's only the DAR survey, that's not the community listening survey.

So all together, we definitely have the 400 needed.

Um, there's a lot more.

So these are from the um both uh what you've seen before from the community listening search survey recommendations.

Um, but we I added in here um the qualitative uh responses to only one question.

There are a number of open-ended questions.

We picked only this question 36.

What do you think the county should do to protect, restore, or honor places and stories that are important to Black history and culture?

Um there were 203 responses to this question from um out of that 200 something survey.

So people filled this out.

Um, and each of those responses had multiple, sometimes multiple responses in them, um, multiple recommendations, uh personal um anecdotes and feelings in them.

Um, and so I can't cover all of that.

I'm sharing here just a few of the standout uh quotes that come verbatim from these documents.

Um and I just want to give you a moment to sort of digest this statement here because I think it's really important.

This just really illuminates how passionate people were in filling out this survey, and and just a testament to how important it was to get this out and people having a chance to share and be heard, um, and the importance of of reparations for um the folks who took this survey.

So as I said, this is in the um SharePoint if you want to reference that directly.

Um we took the the just that one question and the C the community listening session survey responses and put them into uh these 12 categories, which I believe were the categories of harm from the state task force uh recommendations.

Um and these are a little different, though they overlap with the categories you all use for for these recommendations.

Um in our final recommendations, we'll we'll figure out with you which uh classification works best.

Um but just for your reference, just wanted to let you know that these do not map exactly onto um the way your recommendations are outlined in the packet.

Um, and so I just um again gonna quickly fly through this administrative things, legal protection of the gains that have been made um and protections for moving further, funding was an important thing, and definitely commitment to reparations.

I think that was that was something that came out a lot for criminal legal and policing, um, less policing, um, more community involvement, more accountability to community, um and better police interactions was uh big there.

I just um I'm flowing through this because this one we have right now four slides to this, and that was me trying to narrow it down.

Cultural erasure and social was big.

This was where everyone had something to say, and so there is a lot in here.

A lot of it was really similar, but they uh they also had different nuances, and that's why I felt I couldn't just like delete some of these statements.

Um, so just as a quick overview, museums and buildings, historic sites, um, listening and collecting stories, um, grants and funding, arts and artists, um, all of those things were important uh to people.

And I think this will come up again in the education one, but really teaching the history and especially teaching local history.

And so putting that in forefront were a lot of what people wanted with respect to those types of recommendations.

And also I want to emphasize that not all these recommendations are things that the county can necessarily do is in their purview, but I didn't want to decide what was what.

And so I I wanted to leave it for you to just look at when you have some time.

Those things were really around lots of tax policy, um, responses, um, financial services, credit and debt uh relief, and then hiring practices as well and businesses, especially for black owned businesses.

Um education again, centering black history, and a lot of people talking about centering local black history as well.

Um implementing the school pipeline, so really making sure that there are ways and viable pathways for people, especially thinking about economically what's needed for to prepare and attend uh school throughout the career.

Uh the environment and infrastructure, neighborhood repair was the big thing.

Um, really um supporting neighborhood repair and funding that.

Um I think with health and health care, it's really about access.

So community health centers, um, access to to good quality care, housing is also the same around access.

So um cost of living, giving back land that was taken, um, supporting owners' home ownership, but then also um stopping displacement and eviction.

So protection as well as asset access.

Um, and then political and civic was really about commute putting community at the center.

So going back to to what was was shared before, um, really getting communities inside the the politics, getting um people both as leaders, uh advisory uh tables and boards, um, representation um within political circles and as political tables.

Um we didn't have much for transportation directly, um, but there was one comment around uh free BART, for instance.

So I think uh uh you know free access to transportation is an important reparative uh approach as well.

So I will stop it there.

Um again in in the SharePoint folder.

Um, but this just wants to I wanted to spark some of the thinking as you go through the recommendations today and think about uh what you want to where you want to land with the ones that you currently have and what might be missing or need to be modified.

Any questions?

Yep.

I'll just add it 428 is where we're at now.

Yeah, 426, I think.

Nice.

Nice.

And that that's just that's just the that DAR survey, right?

Yeah, yeah, that's and we have more paper surveys that you had about 50.

All right, questions?

Yes, we have questions in the room.

Yep.

Thank you, Michael, for all the details and putting that together.

This is uh Commissioner Hursken.

I wanted to know what the additional uh surveys that we see would be updated or summarize as well to incorporate into what you've already captured.

Yeah, that's that's upcoming.

We will need to do that.

Um, the support that I had on this, he ended up getting a job, which is great for him, but for us.

Um, and so my team will be working at um updating those numbers.

They will be in the final report, but I don't know how soon we can get that to you before that final report is is presented.

Thank you.

I anticipate most of the information will look very similar to this, but um I'm I don't know in what way it might change, especially if the demographics change, if the demographics change because of it.

Commissioner Barry, uh quick question regarding um the youth voice.

Um, Michael, do you have capacity or time to segment out our under 25 or under 30 respondents so we can more clearly hear what our young people are saying in this report?

Got it.

Let me look into that.

Thank you.

Another question?

Yes.

Hi, Michael, it's Letitia.

Um, so what's the lag date that you all will be analyzing the survey data?

Uh I do not know.

We I have to see where the data is when we pull the last poll.

So I know it's still open, right?

So there's still information being collected.

I think some of it depends on what can be inputted if there's stuff that needs to be inputted by hand.

I think it really just depends on when we get around to needing to cut it off.

With the report, we're planning to say these are this is the information, just kind of like what I showed here.

This is the information as of this date, but there's more information.

If for instance we need to cut it off at a certain point, I don't know that necessarily closing the surveys is the best thing.

Like I think if you can hold the information, hold it, and maybe in the future somebody might be able to turn to it.

Um I think also it would be a great opportunity for someone who's for instance um looking for an internship from one of the universities or college community colleges or something to um run some analysis of this large data set as well.

Um so yeah, I'll put that out there.

Okay, because I'm asking because of the timeline that we have, and so that it can inform commissioners regarding their community engagement efforts and data collection efforts.

So just that I I think I definitely hear what you're saying.

You're gonna continue to gather the information, but the actual report will have more like point in time data.

Um, but just I was hoping so commissioners could be aware of as they're having these pop-ups or listening sessions or whatever, what data will actually go into the report versus it'll be just a part of the ongoing data collection if you had an idea of when just a rough estimate, if it was April, end of this month.

Yeah, I would I would say the end of this month.

Let it like if I had to put a date on it, I would say like today, the end of this month, and then we we still need because we still need to analyze stuff that's currently in there.

Yeah, and it's Michael.

Commissioner Gore, one more question.

Uh Commissioner Barry again, Michael.

Um, with that in mind, uh Commissioner Knowles and I held two sessions at Juvenile Hall in Camp Sweeney, and I have um a ton of written um feedback from the young people.

What's the best way to quickly get you that feedback?

Yeah, that's where we um had the library supporting us.

So I think if we can talk with Deb about that.

Yeah, I'm here, Michael.

We can um bring that when you bring the other stuff to Aaron and we'll get it put in.

And then Michael, I've got Deborah's stack from the listing session.

I'll have those in by Wednesday of next week.

So we'll try to get everything in by Wednesday of next week.

And I'll and I'll label those as youth so you'll know they're the 18th.

Yeah.

Perfect.

I'm not the first one.

Everybody.

Nobody else has surveys, right?

No.

Okay.

Understand there's there's a couple data points, right?

It's any final anybody holding any surveys.

Yeah, and then when we get some resources to input it, so there's like two date.

Get them in.

That's basically today by next week, scan the library of VM scan, and then the analysis TV.

Okay.

Exactly.

Yeah.

But the analysis, but if you can get it in by next week, I will say that I will commit that it will definitely be in the final analysis.

Um I do I do want to be able to know if if you they are youth surveys or or you believe that the surveys come from a specific population.

If you could make a note and then Deb, if you can make sure that that's tagged appropriately when it's put into the database.

Okay.

It might require make a new tag, I don't know, but just wanted to put a note about that.

Great.

Thank you all very much.

Thank you very much.

Okay.

So that takes us to the next item of sort of a high-level uh summary, and I'll turn it on to you.

Right.

Sure.

Well, good evening, commissioners.

Yeah, and welcome, Commissioner DJ.

So we do that.

So welcome, welcome.

Um I can say is fantastic work.

You all have been crushing it.

Can we just call to give yourselves a remote?

I know each other's back.

I love it.

Okay.

So we want to, as your trustee team of consultants, providing TA, working alongside you, reporting this effort to just um remind you of just how much work you've accomplished in this since January, even.

So this is the implementation plan that we saw the work in the evil voted are in January at the treat.

And so just very quickly, we're going to show each subcommittee your key task, what you've accomplished since February, and where you are currently this month regarding your tasks.

So again, wanting to highlight you all know the objective that you all have is to create a draft plan based on research.

We just heard from informing change that you have the research, you have the data.

You've heard from various community members across our county by way of the listening sessions and the short surveys collected, but you also have access to data that's been um also gathered to support evidence of harm.

And your job, your core objective is to create an action plan and recommendations to the county board of supervisors that will make a significant impact towards lasting progress, repairing public and private systemic discrimination.

And that's captured from your mission statement.

So the goal that we have now set before you all is to um create the recommendations and submit them for final approval before the board of supervisors as of June 2026 in just a short while.

And so far, we have three subcommittees, admin and budget, admin and budget in the house.

Who's on admin and budget?

Yep, Larry, Deborah, and yep, Commissioner Jerry, Commissioner, Commissioner, Commissioner, Commissioner.

I am as well.

Yes, Commissioner A.

Welcome.

And they've been working extremely hard.

So admin and budget, the core objective here is to monitor your budget allocations from the Board of Supervisors to offer recommendations for current and future expenditures and purchases, uh, to provide proposed budgets for each recommendation category, your grant report, and to support the pre-puntation of the final report.

And this subcommittee has been working um relentlessly on balancing the existing budget, and we also need to give kudos and um a significant amount of praise to Aaron.

Commissioner McMahon is almost done being spent, right?

I see a folder with six and gift cards and all the things.

This subcommittee um has been holding that great body of work to ensure that this commission has is operationally efficient.

You're working within the parameters of the budget that you have in a very transparent and easy to track way.

So the other key tasks include cleaning the recommendations for reporting, support reporting with the county's current budget prioritization categories, and then guiding preparation for the June 23rd meeting.

So exactly what did the subcommittee complete in February?

Well, everyone approved the ACRC timeline, um, support of the Black Joy Parade and surveying for ACRC community engagement.

So big hit and um about how many surveys did you guys capture that day?

Was it 200?

Almost.

Almost yeah, nearly 200 surveys gathered at the Black Joy Parade engagement effort, completed outstanding listening sessions and pop-up invoices, and I think that is a um process, and then oversight of the spin down and reallocation budget data, the middle of one subcommittee recommendation, but that was as of February.

This subcommittee, I think, submitted 16 recommendations.

We do 70.

17.

We did some 17 overachievers, okay.

So that's the work of the um for February for the admin and budget subcommittee.

So the the work that's set the tasks that are set before them for this month include submitting the remaining recommendations by 311.

Well, that's been done.

Um prioritizing the AC budget report, that's also completed, and then ongoing budget oversight, voting on proposed recommendations for report writing, and you all will do that today.

So you all, this subcommittee is on task and moving forward.

So moving on to community listening sessions.

Commissioner Hurskin, Commissioner Barry, and Commissioner Gardner, Commissioner Saul.

Oh, Commissioner Johnson, welcome.

Yeah, I'm on that.

So this subcommittee is responsible for conducting the final community listening session.

There were total of six, I believe, um, to be conducted formally across each jurisdiction in Alapete County.

And then there was a host of pop-ups that was also championed by individual commissioners.

And all together, the goal was to ensure that the community is well informed about reparations in Alameda County and that feedback and the collection of harm was gathered through those sessions.

So the other piece of work that uh the core objective for this subcommittee is to support action planning for ongoing survey collection.

Um, also to develop a strategy and action plan for engaging community partners in the dialogue regarding proposed recommendations and final reports to the board of supervisors.

So this is the subcommittee that is interfacing with the community and keeping those relationships warm so that when it's time to present the recommendations, we have a full house and folks are represented and can see and hear themselves in this work.

Um, and so the key task the subcommittee completed was to complete their recommendations, conduct feedback sessions, uh conducting feedback sessions and also outreach with community partners for attendance at the Board of Supervisors meeting, support the ACRC preparation for the June 23rd meeting.

Um, and then February milestone.

So what they accomplished was of course approving that's across all three subcommittees approval timeline, but they concluded the remaining formal listening sessions.

I believe last one was at Newark, the Newark Library.

That was the last one of the listening session series.

They submitted two recommendations, but I think this was again in February.

This subcommittee ended up submitting how many they had a lot of individual.

Two as a subcommittee, and I don't have a how many as individuals.

So two, but they have several contributions for individuals as a subcommittee and several cross um the subcommittee for individual members.

Um they provided support for pop-ups.

So the task at hand for this subcommittee for March is to submit the remaining recommendations again, it confirmed dates, locations, and the agenda for the feedback sessions.

We have an in-person and a virtual in April.

Now, this is per the timeline that you all voted on at the retreat in January.

And so the one to underscore feedback sessions because this is when now you're turning the curve from the listening sessions through which you all were gathering data and information from the community to inform your recommendations.

Now you're going back to the community.

The feedback is, and this is what we're recommending.

Do we get it right?

We're missing some things, are y'all with us?

That's the feedback session.

That's the scope.

So the task at hand for the community listening sessions, now that the listening sessions have concluded, the formal listening session is to organize and um and conduct these feedback sessions, one virtual, one in person.

And it's really up to this subcommittee how that will happen.

But this per year timeline is the scope of work.

Support ongoing survey collection through the remaining pop-ups and outreach.

But again, you can continue the survey collection, and as Michael stated, you can continue to gather this information.

It may not all be included in this iteration of the report, but we still want to gather that information and have it for a future date.

Then we have uh vote on the proposed recommendations for report writing, which will happen even.

So again, the community listening session subcommittee, very vital, like the heartbeat of this commission as a subcommittee if we are various um outreach efforts and community engagement efforts.

Um would anyone like to add any of the subcommittees?

Just your reflections, perspectives, you're doing.

Do you like the work?

Love the work.

Supervisor Miley's um wanting to put this on the June 30th.

So it was a June 23rd.

Yep.

Confirm that he's that's what he's asked for.

And I say it's 100% in stone, but it that's what he's asked for as June 30th.

And then the other tweets is an Artavia or this commission.

We're gonna take Saturday's listening session off.

And then we'll do a what do you want to do with that?

You want to I was from yeah, I was absent from the CLS meeting last night.

So did you all, Brendan, discuss the virtual session for Friday?

I mean, sorry Saturday.

Saturday.

No, we did not.

We needed you there.

Um we could discuss it now if you'd like.

I don't want to derail this, but I just want to redo the link and everything.

We can have anybody that's signed up rerouted.

Right.

From from my last check, we had maybe six individuals who signed up for that virtual session on Saturday.

Um, so at this point, especially with um Commissioner Burleson's memorial being Friday, I would strongly suggest maybe we pause on that and perhaps repurpose and make it a virtual feedback session on the action plan instead.

But again, it's a committee choice.

So that makes sense to me.

Yeah, good.

Yeah, okay.

Okay, and then I'll just when you're ready, tell me time and I'll set the link for the listener.

So we'll put them on the agenda next week and figure out.

Yeah, yeah.

I'll come to the meeting.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we'll update this to reflect the June 30th date for the board of supervisors.

Okay, and we have last but not least, the data analysis and reporting subcommittee.

Is it allowed to swallow up?

Oh, I'm cut off.

Yeah, um where are you?

Okay.

So our subcommittee essentially is the subcommittee that is focused on the gathering, the following the survey, the creation of the survey, the long survey, and also collection of any of the surveys um at any of the listening sessions, pop-ups, and ensuring that there is a workflow, there's a clean workflow from gathering the information at the event to making sure it's uploaded, and then there's a warm handoff to our evaluate lining team and informing change.

Um, so they handle that, also taking a deeper dive into uh the recommendations in and of itself and alignment with the state task force and other um local jurisdictions who have reparation efforts, just ensuring that there's alignment or if there's nuances, just noting those things.

So that's by and large, what and of course the reporting, the R and DAR is ensuring that the report there is a um steady flow with the uh report writing and that progress is being made and forming change writing team um staff also attend these meetings weekly.

And let's see, what did they do?

Well, they approved the ACRC timeline because everybody did that.

Um, they also completed their recommendations, and I was on I I attended one session, so I know they got one in as a collective.

They did one, and I was just pulling up the latest, but they got one in, and then they they also had six individuals, individual submissions.

Yep.

And I'm not sure if you all had a moment of silence yet, but this was also the subcommittee that our um late great commissioner uh Jesse Burleson was also a part of.

So this subcommittee um February milestones complete approving the ACRC timeline, completing their recommendations, um, and also uh submitting their recommendations by the March 11th deadline.

Uh this subcommittee will be focusing on once you all vote tonight, the results of your recommendations, they're gonna take another look at the recommendations to ensure that the categories are um aligned with like the state task force categories, and then also ensure that the data, all the information that you all have based on tonight, based on how you vote, that it's um transition to informing change so they can begin drafting the narrative report.

So anybody data, who's a part of the DAR team in the room?

Uh the one the one Commissioner Gardner, the one that calling is um social media and website, um metrics, yeah.

People have been visiting, click through, so they there's a metric, but analytics report back.

Absolutely.

So they also gather and discuss that information within the DAR team and the social media as well as the um website uh updates or requests, those are also matters that are heard at the admin and budget uh team meetings as well.

Let me just say one thing before you go on.

Well, I think it will be to our advantage too.

Sorry.

Uh Brazil's just lifting up that there's a misspelling of his name on the website.

I think there's commissioners that might be good.

And also Commissioner Brazil is on the DAR subcommittee as well.

Mr.

Nakard.

Oh, I was gonna say, well, I think it would be beneficial to align what we suggest or recommend with what others have suggested.

I think it's also possible and shouldn't be held to it, that we may have something new, different to do that.

So I don't want to, you know, if it doesn't fit, you know, we can't say it.

No.

Sure that pertains to our local jurisdiction and our local needs.

Okay.

Yes.

Okay.

Any other questions?

So this is lots of work done again, broad vows since January.

It was unbelievable to do, but you did it.

Yep, Commissioner Varies.

Okay.

Um I don't know whether to bring this up here or where else.

So if y'all want to bounce this question else, I've got it.

Um, but I'll but I want to re-lift up uh the work of Commissioner Burleson.

Yes.

We're able to get to uh juvenile hall and Camp Sweeney, but we have not figured out how to get feedback from Senator Rita.

So whether that's a feedback session, I professionally do not have the network to make that happen.

I don't know who else in the room might have the network to make that happen, but I know we got this much time left.

So I just want to raise it again that we haven't uh gotten feedback from the population.

And I'm willing to help work on it in his honor, but I don't have the connections to make that happen.

Um I'm happy to have that conversation on Supervisor Marquez and um see if she's um yeah, at least we should be able to reach out and have that conversation.

Make sure you involve Commissioner Knowles in that also.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, at least talk to.

But yeah, uh thanks for that suggestion.

But yeah, so yeah, I'm happy to do that.

Thank you.

Okay.

So next slide.

So this is the information plan.

Are you again the timeline where we are then this will be June 30th now?

Is the deadline is the day where you all will present your action plan and your your report.

Um, we also mentioned just wanting to ensure that um you all have the opportunity to acknowledge your community partners at that time.

So we'll be working, I guess, with the AC library team and Chair Gore with um, you know, just some ways in which we can recognize formally recognize a community partners and probably through each subcommittee, ensuring that we have all of the partners that you all have worked with so that you all can notify them to be present.

Um and so going down from that, we have May 8th through May 29th.

There we go for board presentation preparation work, the final draft action plan and budget to the ad hoc committee by May 15th, the final action plan approved by you all at your May 27th meeting, the final report and share with the ad hoc committee and community partners on May 29th, right?

Then going up from that, that's bringing us within this time period that we're in right now, March 18th through April 30th.

So ACRC determined the report timeline that's today, the final rec per your final recommendation pop-ups conclude on March 21st.

So we have that here.

Community partners and allies review the recommendations between March 28th and April 10th.

Again, this is a range because you all haven't even seen the draft report.

You're voting on the recommendations tonight, but we're just saying by April 10th, we want to ensure that your community partners and allies have the opportunity to review the recommendations, and this is where those feedback sessions come into play.

There's also the ACRC reviews the action plan report rough draft.

So by April 8th, no sweat, Michael, warning change, but by April 8th, we want to have this report before you all to review the very rough draft.

So you all can begin, you know, ripping it to shreds.

And I'm just kidding.

Adding your recommendations, your revisions, your edits, your feedback.

Updating the report and the budget expenditures to the ad hoc committee for April 30th.

So by and large, this is the admin and budget subcommittee.

Then drawing down from there, we've already completed these things.

This is why they're highlighted green.

Victory, yay, money, right?

March 1st through March 15th, the recommendation submitted to informing change by March 11th.

Well, that was a high dream.

But you did submit your recommendations by March 11th.

So I think we retweet uh fine-tuned this um this task a little bit, and you submitted 43, 43 recommendations at midnight on midnight people on the deadline at midnight.

And then going back to January to February 28th.

Um you conducted your listening sessions.

We had the retreat on the 31st, you created your work plan, approved it for January through June.

You developed your rough draft recommendations leading up to the retreat and at the retreat, and then you conducted your final community listening session again, the formal listening session of February 28th.

So this is the timeline.

Any thoughts, questions, or comments?

Anyone feel tired?

Yeah, I'm tired.

We should just make it um it plain that the 30th.

Um we could try and have standing room only for our community partners about the whole flow room noise about this the local papers and press.

This isn't just an intellectual exercise.

Anyway, because it's who is it?

Christian Charlie.

Oh, and they're like, we could get the hand, the body anymore.

What the address?

You got some excitement and some momentum.

Um definitely growing throughout the communities.

Definitely a feeling of a movement happening.

Any other thoughts, questions, comments?

None of this linear or thought without ECC.

So thank you to you all.

Letisha may um comment in.

Yeah, I really doubt that there's going to be a draft report by April 8th.

Um just want to be up front.

I thought there was an end of April draft in here, and I don't see that.

Um, also if the community partners and alleys aren't reviewing the recommendations until like the 10th, like I feel like we're going to need the final sign off on that.

These are the recommendations, but that's what's happening tonight, right?

Like, so there's no basically one of my questions.

There's not going to be any changes in the recommendations after tonight.

Is that that's one question?

The second thing is we will need to analyze all of the data and stuff and put that into the final report.

So I really think that the April 8th date is way premature.

For some reason, I thought we had decided on something towards the end of May or something, but yeah, that's the final draft.

The final 30th is the target of the draft.

So April 30th is the hard target.

Yeah, I thought April 30th was the target for that.

That's what I was thinking too.

So that's all I was trying to figure out.

Yeah.

And most of the data, like we should have an abundance of data.

By April 8th.

By April 8th.

So that's why it says rough draft.

Uh-huh.

So very rough.

That's really rough.

Yeah, we're going to be anything for review.

However, I can bring um by April 8th.

Any questions that we have?

Um, I just transparency too.

I am heading out on vacation starting Friday.

So I will be back to the beginning of April.

Um, but my team will be working in the background on stuff.

But we'll figure that out.

Um, but yes, by the end of April, we definitely will have by the end of April.

Okay.

So we're the end of April.

But this was it's a it's an outline.

So yeah, end of April, if that works better, um, it's just deciding and making sure that it's agendized because then you all would review it then when May meeting when is the April full commission meeting?

When's the next point?

It's the April 8th.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So let's say that April 8th, we will come with any sort of outstanding questions from like as we're working on this stuff, like what are some things that are lifting up that we need to get your feedback on?

I will be able to bring that on the eighth.

Let's say that.

Okay.

Yeah, Michael, maybe I think what we were envisioning is because you've already shared with the commissioners, you all have some pieces already.

So maybe just bringing that back along with your questions and any other things, something like that.

That's the can do that totally.

We love the timeline and we want to make sure concert.

Um so yes.

Any other questions from anyone else about the timeline?

No, I think we need to talk about the recommendations.

Yeah, right.

Okay.

Let's move forward.

Next slide.

Okay.

So I'm gonna transition us into the review of the recommendations and the probing, and then I'm gonna turn it over to Chair Gore and then myself and the trees.

You all uh also I want to appreciate Matrice and Sean.

Yeah, um, there is no easy thing without the two of them getting any of this done.

And yes, and it is definitely a labor of love, right?

I mean they they say the cuss words for me, but they love y'all.

That's not actually Sean got that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So this document here is really a reference tool for you all.

And I do do we have it actually print.

We have a hard copy of this in our ear.

Okay, have it in their packet.

You have it in your packet.

So just reviewing this because this is a reference tool uh that was present by Chair Gore, um the budget committee and the budget subcommittee who felt like it would be important as well as voting on this the various categories and individual recommendations to look at some of the fiscal the possibilities based on um where the budget is, some of the budget um, you know, the actuals and the percentages of the budget according to the county um and their various departmental efforts um and their allocations uh each depart across each department.

So for example, the first line goes over uh the unit department social services agency, the program area that they tool specifically is public assistance and self-sufficiency services.

And so instead of the friendly amendment would be we need to get into this because this is very involved.

I'm gonna just gonna complete my high-level overview and take you let you jump right in and have a great time for voting.

So basically from each department, social services libraries, you have the various county departments, specific program areas, which was also very savvy genius to pull and their budget allocations within the county.

The total amount is about 5.6 million, almost five 5.7 million billion billion million.

Oh boy, gotta watch them come this in the and then the actual percentages of those budgets.

You have now this is the important part, your reparations category.

Here you all have economic disenfranchisement, criminal legal and policing harms, um, housing and land use, infrastructure disparity, cultural erasure, and social harms.

Then you have the category description, the primary service function, and then the sources um where they receive the actual recommendations, which you said oh no, the sources that sources to the budget.

No, no, no, the two documents we use to build them.

Okay, so this again is a tool to guide you as you vote um on individual recommendations, and at this point, thank you all for your time and engagement.

I'm gonna pass it over to Chairboard.

Do you have the oh there?

Okay, you want me to do this one too?

Or do this?

Oh, this one.

So okay, one more, not completely off the hook.

So there are this is that great packet that's in front of you, that hefty packet that you have.

It's all the recommendations are all the recommendations that have it.

So we alphabetize them by our category.

There is, I mean, maybe give or take some wording.

this would be okay so okay one more not completely off the hook so there are this is that great packet that's in front of you that hefty packet that you have all the recommendations so all the recommendations so in try we alphabetize them on our category there is I mean maybe give or take some wording I will say that these categories are very tightly aligned with the California State Reparations Task Force with the exception of maybe two um categories one being racial terror yeah and the other one being enslavement now we kept those in your packet um probably not enslavement but the racial terror is in your packet but it's blank there were no recommendations for under the category of racial terror but the other categories we were just looking at it's very closely aligned with the state task force in the 12 areas that Michael called out so you have your categories and then you have the title of each of the recommendations you have one under the family category which is 5.1 so each recommendation is numbered and the sub recommendation is 1.1.2 right so family for example is 5.1 and the recognition or family back up family would be five number five and recommendation 5.1 is black youth and there was only one recommendation for that okay so these are the categories the recommendations numbers and the titles and you have those also in front of you to aid you in your voting you also have a voting tool in front of you voting instrument this is a multi-page document it says ACRC voting sheet in bold blue font this is the tool that you'll be using to prioritize your recommendation so on this voting tool again you have the category number you have the area of reparations and you have the title of the individual recommend of the individual recommendation then you have this answer code the first column has an A the A means you approve of this recommendation check it out you have AM AM is you approve with modifications and there is space at the bottom for you to write your modification and then the final category is R which stands for reject the reject this recommendation you do not want so this is your voting sheet you probably will need to use the back if you have modifications because it's quite a bit here are there any questions about the pool or the references all right now I'm gonna pass it over to thank you okay so um I think uh we will start by using this summary roll up if you have a question oh go ahead Jennifer sorry sorry I just wanted to know how can I like participate in that or should I just be keeping like my own notes or I'll just I'll I'll try and keep my own notes on it was you when we call um some votes we will uh because we have porn in the room you all okay okay perfect okay yes so using this as a high level um document we could um begin the discussion of marching through the one category so creative culture and intellect two economic opportunity three education on down the line so why don't we try that to see um uh if people want to embellish add comments support it uh as a way to get the conversation built okay yes go ahead hi this is shanita so so we're doing this uh verbally versus everything yeah okay well hopefully you were able to do some homework and I know that's so if we did not do the homework then um what do you uh the suggestion were you suggesting that we read it alone and score I mean that that's why that's why the ECC worked so hard to get it out but if we want to do it as a collective yeah we thought you all would be doing this here we were sharing the information ahead of time for again pre-work yes but also so you can familiarize yourself but that ultimately the decision making would happen here in this room yeah okay um so um so then you would go through each one so dependently voting might want to start you know from the top and go down yeah so in the one category right so that everything that's listed as one is the creative culture and intellectual um you can see what is written here and then I just open it to the floor folks who either well want to want the recommendation or don't want the recommendation

So then you would go through each one.

So independently voting.

Might want to start, you know, from the top and go down.

Yeah.

So in the one in the one category, right?

So that I think that's listed as one is the creative culture and intellectual.

You can see what is written here.

And then I just open it to the floor.

Folks who either want to want the recommendation or don't want the recommendation.

Well, I just wanted to have a discussion first before we did a vote.

So can we just have a discussion about the category, right?

So that I'll just read here, but really if this is something like you know, because it's preserve the his the black history, memory spaces, institutions, economic districts is essential.

1.2 community archiving, uh preservation for black residents, 1.3, the arts, the music, 1.4, uh enduring narrative.

Commissioners, any commissioners want to weigh in on this.

I had a more general comment.

Um I guess it I like the list and we can vote on it and et cetera.

And I like the us talking about it too.

Um what over the what over the last two years has come out to me, and I think we've talked about this, is establishing a reparations department or commission or and it shows up at different points in this in the list of things.

Um it's number five someplace and number nine at another one.

And I think the things that we're like what you just talked about, I think are great, but they're part of what the department would be doing.

Um I just want to know when we talk about setting up a permanent structure in Alameda County that addresses this list.

So that's what I'm interested in.

And as as we had discussed in our committee, yes, one of the biggest things is an office of reparations in some part, and that would continue the work because the work that we're doing, we don't have the you know, the manpower, man hours, bandwidth, however you want to call it, to actually do justice to all of this and having that department saying here is the start of the recommendations, let's dig deeper and start action.

And that would be well, I don't see that particular recommendation as hey, here 9.1.

9.1.

Yeah, that we'll get there.

Oh, it's down there.

Okay.

Also um see there's uh the cross 6.4 is a harm report and a harms department or office to provide guidance.

There are some sprinkling through PS, yeah.

Yes, that's what I guess my point was it's sprinkled through there.

And we're starting with pieces, and then at some point we'll talk about the whole or so uh so what I'm um hearing uh what I'm hearing you say is your prioritizing the department and recommending the department for the pieces, whereas we are looking at the pieces first and seeing if I I uh acknowledge your recommendation of the department holding the pieces uh but I would like to walk through the pieces.

Sure, we can I just wanted to make sure we not lose sight of the forest for the trees.

Um back to um anybody want to speak to their creative culture intellectual president of the order.

Um our committee, our admin and budget committee.

We did write a recommendation.

They thought that the um following under the uh five principles of uh reparations by the UN under satisfaction, the the third principle is um acknowledging maintaining the history so that it's not erased.

So we put one forward, I don't know which one is ours, but we put it forward as one of the key principles of reparations.

I just want to make up putting a marker there on that one.

Okay.

No, I've looked over many of these and I agree with most of them.

Um is that what we're think we're gonna turn into the board of supervisors?

Sorry.

I've looked over most of these and I agree with most of them.

Um is that what we're wanting to turn into the board of supervisors?

We're gonna prioritize.

So go through it, say what are top priorities, what are our bottom priorities so that we can rank the order and then present it um based on the bullet commission.

Okay.

So uh can we let's move to two, uh, which is the economic opportunity.

Yeah, I mean, Commissioner Gore, before we move on, is it uh one thing I'm trying to cross-check for for the creative cultural intellectual category, all four goals recommendations right now.

Look for fall in medium term.

Is that one way we could think about prioritization or some of them say immediate, some say long, so how do we need that later point in the recommendation?

I think what do you think?

I'm showing on it.

I'm showing on it, one to hear uh please.

No, I was gonna shine.

I was kind of looking at that recommendation, say that medium versus low, like whoever made the recommendation was thinking longer term now.

So that meant that recommendation didn't seem to be a high priority.

So we're prioritizing me for me.

Well, I think that's the goal of this this particular tool first are approved with modification.

So if we want to change that right now, we should just make that modification.

I'm just gonna keep thinking as we go through, but that's one of my yeah, no, I think that's a the person who maybe put the um you know the the proposed timeline or the prior prize section wants to kind of defend that.

You know, you should probably say something about why you made it, you know, you recommended that um that way that the whole group would know why.

Thank you.

Okay, so then the economic opportunity um and uh Alan, I don't know if you're still with us, but I know one of your uh it's listed here is an omnibus recommendation in that um your part your uh recommendation of the whole narrative of all of the changing the way we um allocate our resources towards um surveillance harm and shifting it to investment and um uplifting.

I I know is sort of under a big umbrella of economic opportunities on it to see if you wanted to add it, came mostly from the you know two big white papers you wrote, so I just want to yeah.

Thank you.

It's just um about again making sure that we make the case for the return on the investment of the reparations to all taxpayers of the county of Alameda based on the fact that inequality and these harms are very expensive, they're not only unfair and unjust, they're very expensive to all taxpayers, and I think that what needs to accompany our recommendation is just whatever the work effort and cost associated with um documenting not only the cost of these harms to all taxpayers, but what the return by this investment will pay dividends over the long run, and just making sure that that is part of our justification and narrative.

The moral argument is there, we all know it, but the economic argument has been kind of the basis of the recommendations that I've been putting forward.

Thank you.

Then anybody else want to speak to economic opportunities we concluded, black owned businesses, neighborhood commercial corridors, um workforce development actually showed up in education.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I support our offering economic.

How it's written here.

Yeah.

Two one, just in some of the highlights.

Uh it includes denied equal access to employment, uh, list harms as an limited wealth building, economic mobility, ability for black families under economic opportunity.

Um, and then Alan shared with you the omnibus one, and uh there was a black-owned business and neighborhood commercial corridors, black on a question on that one.

So especially the commercial corridor.

In my opinion, it shouldn't be pigeonholed into a corridor.

Black owned businesses should be everywhere in the area.

And when you say it's commercial corridor, oh, that's the black section.

You know, no, we don't want that.

We want that to have, in my opinion, have black owned businesses everywhere with the support throughout the county.

So there's not a corridor, you don't have to drive to Oakland or Albany or whatever.

You can just go here and there's a black home business next to uh this commercial business.

So they're all over the price.

That is because that in and of itself segregates us from the it's a reflection, it's the reflection of the history for Wentley Came.

That's where the Seventh Street Corridor came from.

Understandable.

That's where my father would drive me down there, and we go to all the clubs and all the stuff, but that's where you could go.

Right.

You couldn't go above um telegraph.

Right.

Um even when you trick or treat it.

Um your point's well taken.

So I have there's there's two sides to it.

Correct.

There's a there's a cultural thing that it's actually great to have a number of businesses in a row, but that's not all it should be.

That's your point.

And if that's naturally occurring, that would be fine.

Do you have a business here, business here, or you have two businesses that say, hey, we're very complimentary, great, you open up next door, but it shouldn't be, hey, this is gonna be a black corridor.

Yeah, go ahead, Leo.

Yeah, I I just wanted to uh point out that Seventh Street Corridor, I came here to 15th Street Station, and my grandfather was part of Pullman Porters because they didn't have transportation back and forth to work, you had to live close to work.

So the poolman porters tended to live in that little corridor down to 7th Street, and therefore all of the services and things that they could contribute to in a daily purchases were there because they had to be close to walk yes to get to the station to get on the train.

So they just couldn't live anywhere and everywhere, not because of racial discrimination so much, as employment requirement in that time.

So it's it's actually both because there was discrimination of where you could.

Yeah, you couldn't go.

My mother used to work at Naval Supply Center, and where I got dropped off was the um the Catholic school, which right on 9th Street, and that's where I hung out.

So yeah, there's a way this had to do with work.

But your point's well taken.

But that's that was being driven by segregation.

I think both things are true.

If there's an ability to black owned businesses to operate together, and that's a good thing, and then they should be all over the place at this point.

And I think that's right.

And as Alan had said, as it's going to the the economics, the economy can affect the entire county.

So we should have the businesses throughout the entire county.

So they say the benefits of the increased tax roles and everything like that, not just focusing on various courts.

Also, yeah, yeah, because yeah, um, I I think I tend to agree that it's uh both and I really like the corridor idea.

It's the me going back to my days uh in Chicago when we built out what we call transit-oriented development sections of the city.

Um I imagine in my head when I hear that places like Russell City having all kinds of businesses, and this is sort of a destination spot when people come here.

Same thing for uh locations in Oakland that may be um designated quarters.

You you know, you will have people coming all over the country just to go to that space and see that history, experience those businesses.

Um I think of it more as cultural immersion uh as well as some of the um dollars that you're driving by making it more tourism stop in a city.

So take it to take it a step further.

But your point, not only is your point right.

Look at what we just read about um increasing black museums and keeping artifacts together, they could be put next to each other, they can be a destination.

That doesn't mean you can't have businesses in Fremont and people can actually own homes in Piedmont, not either or it's better.

Like I'd like to uh waive.

Sorry, and then uh I'll go after that.

Larry and then Larry.

Okay, Larry, Alan, Larry, Shanita.

And I'm really um grateful for this kind of part of the conversation.

I uh am also completely on board with the both and I think that those communities historically represented superachievers and a concentration of superachievers.

And I know in certain parts of our city where those concentrations were there's still um things that were done by those superachievers that have not been repeated for so many decades now that the memory that we ever even achieve those things is atrophieding away, and we're losing the historic grasp of what we can do.

And on the other hand, I still completely also agree with the fact that going forward, we need to have the ability to have superachievers holistically dispersed throughout our economy and have our ability to participate economically in every way, um you know, a disperse way and not be pigeonholed because somebody thinks that we need to be in a specific district.

So I'm all for I'm all for both the celebration and the preserving of the history and also making sure that we do have the dispersed opportunities to participate here.

Yeah, Larry.

Uh Commissioner McClendon here.

Uh I also want to highlight that um it's support for business uh black-owned businesses and neighborhood uh commercial corridors.

So the and is already there.

Um the wording uh neighborhood commercial corridors was more so to align to how developments are rolled out.

And when they identify sections of new development, they also identify those as neighborhood corridors.

And so this is more inclusive of how an Alan can weigh in as new developments and new um unification projects are happening through the planning code, they identified neighborhood commercial corridors.

This this was supposed to be more inclusive wording to make sure that we're included in how they list and determine spaces, and it wasn't supposed to be exclusive to say black people will only go to these particular corridors businesses.

It was more so to align with how government zoning and planning roll rolls out their kind of plans in the future.

So I just want to highlight that aspect.

And as much as I understand that, um, as far as because I've the general contractor working in the commercial area, that was my past, I do understand that area.

And yes, government thinks that way, but the common person who says, oh, that's the neighborhood corridor, and that's black, that's the black neighborhood.

That's the common thinking of oh, that's this neighborhood, that neighborhood, or that neighborhood.

So when you delineate it as a corridor, although governmentally that's correct, the common thinking is not.

So that's how we the wording might sound more more might sound inclusive on the government section, but you know, in the public sector is not, it does not relay as inclusive.

And I just want to challenge that a little bit because our recommendation is to a government entity.

We want to convert their money intentionally, and so that language should be aligned for how government has to invest.

And so I I completely understand the public and how they would view this investment, but when we are right recommending that government does something, I feel like it's very important that we align the language so it doesn't get taken out of context after one or two elected officials are gone, but this language is here and it aligns with how government does business.

I mean, no, I I think I'm I mean here in both sides, and I mean I really wanted to stress to the kind of and or an example.

I mean, Livermore, and if we establish a corridor only in Oakland, I don't want to have to drive to Oakland to get food or barbecue or to buy from a black owned vendor.

So if there's opportunities to be throughout Alameda County, I can go to you know a black owned business closer.

And doubly.

Well, we have sure sharing that, but you know, again, just I agree with the answer.

So then we should all this discussion should inform the the the recommendation.

I would just add uh inclusive to the end as well.

Like it makes me think of I go to North Beach, if I go to Chinatown, if I go to Little Tokyo, if I go to the mission district, and they still have businesses everywhere, but I know I can go to a cultural center hub and get you know, uh I can immerse myself in it, and maybe it's located out in Castro Valley.

It doesn't have to be in Oakland, but I I'm thinking of like that, and because there is there is sometimes you literally destination crenshaw, what they're doing in LA is a corridor dedicated to Black Excellency, and you go there, right?

And so and they're committed to it within they're working within their um city and all of that.

So I'm with the and, but I I am thinking of how people other cultures and how multicultural all of Alameda is that uh we are deserving of one of those cultural spaces that does business and music and arts and greenhouse.

So yeah, yes, so uh economic opportunity that great robust conversation.

Uh any other, I don't want to cut it off too quick.

I mean, are we calling for a modification to this area so we can clarify so we can clarify that?

Well, this is the way I see it, and I haven't looked at the longer thing that you have here.

When we actually have the recommendation, there's an and in there that incorporates what you said, Larry, and incorporate what this gentleman said.

So what it's like it's either or yeah.

So it's I I think we're just uplifting, not just, but uplifting the economic opportunity sounds like we're in alignment on economic opportunity as nation marketing.

Yes.

Okay.

Alan, yeah.

Yeah, I think it's economic opportunity that's dispersed as well as focus and just making sure that we we drive that theme across our recommendations.

Okay.

People say, you know, I'll I'll go to a conference and I'll tell people that I'm developing in West Oakland, and the first thing they say is, oh, affordable housing.

And I'm like, yeah, but it's not only affordable housing, it's other things.

We tend to get pigeon told into areas uh of activity, both in terms of what we get involved in as well as where we get involved in it.

And I think that we you know hopefully can drive this theme of holistic participation throughout the county.

Lastly, I'll say that as a contractor, I can't be a growing thriving contractor if the only place that I can work is in one part of Oakland or in Oakland, period.

I have to be able to do, you know, sell my goods in throughout the nine Bay Area counties if I'm gonna be able to grow and create that kind of opportunity.

And Oakland has to create the you know, fertilization of that type of opportunity for all of us.

And and that has not necessarily been the case, even with the public contracting, it you know, so all of these things really kind of fit into this basket about being able to participate across the board and why it's not only fair to me, but it's good for the health of the county and our economy.

Yeah, thank you.

Okay, education.

Can we pivot to education?

So uh you know, oh uh you want to speak to I think the nuance here I would just add is that the county doesn't actually run school district.

Yeah, well, we've got 15 school districts.

We've got 15 school districts, and so if we have an ability to have any initiatives that support the school district, um, but like eliminating barriers.

Maybe there are programs that they partner with, but I just want to um lift up that education had to um and there is an elected office.

That's right.

Yeah, that's right.

I know it's as a skill was a responsibility that's access from various communities, those into a central Alameda County.

And there's and there's also the Alameda County Office of Education too.

And and I was gonna, I was gonna add actually one of the things in here is about around the creating paid and apprenticeships and and that sort of thing.

So really the county office of of education actually already has a really great program where they've been working to train paraeducators, get them into education, they pay for bachelor degrees.

There's like the whole new program that they spun up in the last couple of years.

There's opportunities to I think lead into that with like, oh, that fits really nicely into some of the work that the Office of Education is already doing.

That's one area that is overlooked, and this is city specific.

It probably happens in other cities in the in the county, but say Fremont, if you're trying to go to Mission San Jose High School, which is one of the highest rated schools in the state, you truly can't go over there because you can't afford the housing.

Right.

As I as a you know, middle income black man, you cannot move into mission because the houses and the rent is incredible expensive.

They collect higher taxes, which go to better schools.

Yes.

So and and it's but and a lot of it's you know, the parent involvement in that area, there's more money in that one school.

Although the other ones are catching up as far as scores, you just can't get into mission because you don't live in the attendance area.

But what do you think?

Huh?

So what are you saying then?

No, we don't have enrollments.

Uh so what are you saying?

I'm just there's uh some way there has to be some way to address it.

I just don't know how.

The the um office of education though also runs several schools, so they run all the court schools.

Well, that no, they run all the court schools, they run the pregnant and parenting team, they run schools for kids who have been expelled from their districts, they run um opportunity academy schools.

So there's a number of schools that are run and actually are already servicing black and brown kids.

And so, but they're underfunded, like they are not true.

Like I was just thinking when you go to JJC, they should have the best school that exists anywhere.

They're doing packets, right?

And so, how does the investment reframe and reshape some of those schools that the county does have control over?

And Jennifer, I see your hands up.

Yeah, I just wanted to say I'm I'm not sure if anybody's familiar with the San Francisco school district as well.

I'm not super familiar with it, but I feel like they do sort of like a lottery system because of that problem of where like certain, you know, the higher priced homes have the better school district, so they don't have it based upon where you live, they have it based upon a different system as well.

So that could be a solution.

Yeah, that's part of the solution.

Right.

Can I is is it is it just me though?

Um, when I think of education, I think of our younger children.

I think it's an opportunity.

If we build a the county hold them accountable, it is kind of a youth vote.

Maybe I'm missing it because I we talking about teaching them African American history, Latin history, um, Native American history.

Are we talking about that type of education?

Oh no, I I'm saying it well, I'm just looking at what's in the recommendation.

Okay, but that's it says barriers to recommendation.

Um, it talks about uh educational equity, I think people were talking about here, eliminate financial structural and resource barriers.

So I think it's both eliminating things and building up, but it didn't say specifically what the curriculum is.

So that's I guess so I maybe I'll just add it on myself, and then when we get to the board of supervisors all raise it, um that I think there needs to be the history of all people taught to all people.

All people, but you're speaking to curriculums.

What I what I'm saying is so if you go through the this mission attendance area through elementary, junior, middle, and high school.

If you apply to a college, they'll look and say, Oh, you went to mission, you're going to have a better chance than if you went to America.

So it's like, and I know there's other areas in Alameda County where there's one or two where you're like, yeah, in Livermore, you go to, oh, I'm saying that one.

Yeah, you go to Granada versus one of the other ones, you have a better chance of getting into a better college.

I don't know how to, I don't know how to recover.

Somebody left to say goodbye.

Oops, sorry.

What's up?

Welcome, Commissioner Barlack.

I see you've joined us, but yeah.

So that was.

I've been here, I was just not a participant.

So I've been listening.

Great job, everybody.

I don't have a dis I don't have a discrimination for it, but that is one of the yes, Commissioner Barrett.

Yeah, um, but this one I'm I'm just reading a little bit more carefully.

It's talking about for Black students and adult learners in the county.

So I would propose perhaps under the action steps that we add language around culturally relevant and responsive curriculum.

Um you know, reflect that recommendation for the action steps.

And um, I'm aware that the county uh does have school opportunities.

How do we connect um those schools to HBCUs and making sure that there's sort of a track, uh identifiable track where students are given college as an expectation versus an option?

Um, doesn't mean it might take the trades, but very often our kids just they don't even realize the option is they don't even know what an HBC is, right?

So um proposing that we just add those two recommendations under the action steps for 3.1 okay education sounds like we oh yes, Commissioner Downs.

I was hoping someone could expand on the concept of reparative education, and um because I see that that phrase on screen and I'd like to know if anyone can can expand a little bit on that under um page freedoms freedom school I I think reparative education, I somehow GED popped into my mind that you know if you didn't if you dropped out of high school or you you know you want to get back into the uh education loop, there's uh some kind of thing to refresh your mind or repair some of the stuff that you didn't get before you could go forward.

So that's but that's not what's that I mean, I appreciate but that's not where that's going.

Okay, if if I can just take a shot, because what to me it means, and what I'm hoping it means is that there has been historically massive assaults on our esteem and our self-esteem.

And this has been through media, this has been through all types of things that have been foisted upon our kids and on all of us, and it you know, there's always a correlation between self-esteem and complex problem solving, you know, you can be brilliant, but if you have a self-esteem issue, you know, there's gonna be a challenge there, and so I know, and I was hoping that maybe we had intention of talking about some of the curriculum being used to you know repair um how not only we look at ourselves, but even how others look at us and um invest in that because that's that to me seems to be a challenge.

That is that's part of it.

There's a definite yeah, we're yeah, we're talking about 3.2, right?

Yeah, we're sure don't have copy of this.

All right, yeah, we have emails.

Why don't you read it?

Um where did the email come from?

Oh, uh, so it's from the ECC, it has it looks like a newsletter.

Can we put it at the top of the zoom?

Miriam came from Miriam.

And read it just in the essence of time.

Yeah, can you read because we are on this?

But he'll posit it for the rest of the discussion.

Yeah, it's not either or.

Okay, please read it one and okay.

So 3.2 repair and education workforce development programs for black residents.

So the hard statement is black residents of Alameda County have faced systemic educational inequities under funded schools limited access to career pathways and barriers to workforce participation, including for formerly incarcerated individuals.

These inequities have limited economic mobility and generational wealth creation.

Alanina County has contributed to these disparities through unequal school funding under investment in vocational training and limited support for black educators and apprenticeships.

Addressing these gaps through targeted education and workforce programs is critical to reparative justice and economic empowerment.

So the recommendation statement is the Alameda County Reparations Commission recommends that Alameda County establish fund comprehensive education and workforce development programs for Black residents, including summer learning initiatives, teacher support, adult education, and paid apprenticeships linked to county projects.

And then they give the proposed action steps, which is kind of long, but that's the essence of what um you know this um recommendation is about.

So it's less about curriculum, but it's more about the harms associated with lack of access to good education.

Exactly.

And then what you had raised, Alan is similar to what I had raised that there needs to be some curriculum.

Part of restorative justice is teaching the truth and the history.

Yeah, so we agree that it's not you know the economic side and the and the school and all of that, but you have to at some point teach the history.

Umited States is founded on the the rip-off of the American Indian um land and the enslavement of Africans.

That's for Wednesday game.

So can I ask a question?

It sounds like the discussion right now what uh Commissioner Downs raised is that it looks like we might be missing the recommendation for education enrichment.

Or modify um which one will be modified?

Because I just read all three group, and I don't see that it's not in there enrichment based on the discussion.

It's about enhancing curriculum within school districts, 15 school districts, uh selected school districts.

I don't see uh education recommendation for a curriculum enrichment of black history and culture.

And I I think in this particular day when there's so many attacks on our history and that history that really in many ways needs to be able to lift up who we are and you know, corrective history about you know our ancestry and where we came from and our achievements while we're here.

And I you know, we just have to be very, very proactive about that, especially in this time where the truth really doesn't matter much.

Um when you see victims of crimes being called call cast as terrorists.

Well, you know, I think the same happens in our case, you know.

We we tend to become you know cast as something other than what we are, and I think to me that has to be repaired uh with some intentionality.

We're gonna well maybe 3.3, or we can revisit the first three and add curriculum enrichment into the culture, modify that one instead of adding.

So if we want to modify either 1.1 or um 1.2, it might be 1.2, and we we want to include uh educational, maybe K through 12 educational enrichment to 1.2.

We we say approve with a modification.

Okay, uh good.

Yes, I just want to clarify the goal of this because the way the sheets and everything were panned out is to say we approve of this, we approve get through this part of it so that we know what the recommendations are, and then make sure we fully flesh out that's what the feedback sessions and the writing of the report is about.

I just want to put that into the I appreciate it because we're sitting here halfway through.

So let's walk by and it's like he's gonna kick us out of here.

If we could move along, um so environment and infrastructure.

So there's a little bit of a blending here because redlining was housing uh policy and frankly um practices, and then um we've been put in very unhealthy environments.

So you want to anyone want to speak to the environment and infrastructure.

I do feel like the red it, you know, starts with the redlining areas and how there was economic disenfranchise of owning homes.

I I I believe I submitted one of these in the spirit of social determinants of health now, that social determinants no longer you know embraces both um environmental wellness and social and medical.

So the environment is quite expensive of not just owning a good house or or being able to get a house, um, but that you live in a healthy environment.

So it's just a little bit more expensive for me when I think wanna I don't know.

I guess this is like an overriding issue with all the recommendations is that there's a lot of overwhelm.

Yeah, for sure.

And at some point we'll need to uh a process for conciling the overlapping recommendations.

Um, because even in the education, both of them mentioned like workforce development.

Yeah.

Um, this one, you know, there's both the first 4.14.2 control um and like climate resilience and those sorts of things.

Um I mean, I we'll sound that's gonna be our process for that, and like what's our time frame?

Yeah, I think that's it.

What an emerging issue that we're seeing.

I I don't want to overinfluence.

So other ideas.

My well, go ahead.

My idea would take take the category as we look at this and with the modifications, say, okay, these are all in one category.

Let's put them all so we don't have point one point two point three.

Yeah, and the modifications that we had talked about, like adding, you know, the the the curriculum, adding, you know, maybe language in the the corridor that says black owned businesses included in all core, whatever.

How are we gonna add that language so that way we don't have you know so many subcategories?

It's one item.

Here are the modifications, and now we build that modification into that one category.

Um as we continue to experience this over.

I think there is, I think there's overlap on all of it.

Yeah, okay.

For sure.

I think that's correct.

I think we should move forward still and let there be overlap when this gentleman comes back to us on April 8th, and then refine it again.

Because what you're saying, not only is it true, we're not gonna do it.

I I remember reading over a lot a lot of this, and I realized, and I said this to you guys and girls earlier.

Um key thing is to is to put a reparations group or department together.

I agree with all look, I agree with all right, you know, and they all overlap, and they should.

Um I would suggest you're right.

Um Mr.

Gore, let's go through this.

And then let's then there'll be another step after this one.

Other okay.

Oh man.

Alan.

The one thing that the word that came up, and and again, I I'm in a safe place, so I would even I feel safe in even saying even if we added another meeting where we we dig in again.

I can say that safely for me, or nobody's gonna throw it in.

But also the another thing I heard the word infrastructure, and one thing that is really really um you know, keeping me awake at night is the fact that the digital divide is expanding so rapidly right now in ways that many people just don't even understand.

And um a lot of it has to do with infrastructure and access.

And I think um hopefully I don't know if that where that overlaps or if it's if if there are specific um you know recommendations that address that, but I think that's another very important piece is making sure that we don't get left behind in this massively extremely fast expanding digital world.

Um a number of us are already behind.

Um so um well said, sir.

Um 51 uh family black youth.

There looking up these crossover conversation where we talked about youth and opportunity, youth and education.

We've been lifting them.

Okay, uh general.

So this is um the department, the agencies, the harms report.

Uh so that was it's a quite a big bucket here.

And general dot must admit I'd love to see our report that this be the main thing that we present to the supervisors, um, and then have all these other things talked about as part of the we need we don't think after this.

Um anyway.

Other comments the stuff we have under setting up the funds, the recording.

Um I know they do do equity reports, there's just not much transparency on it, but they there are a lot of really strong equity for reports now that exist within the county.

Anybody want to speak to the general?

Okay, that's housing and property.

This is also one um recommendations here, having to be with you know equitable housing, down payment programs, addressing redlining, direct compensation for property that was taken for housing.

Um speak to the housing.

Um just um, I'm skimming for because I can't remember if I saw it before, was um someone's one of these reports talked about the return of land, you know.

I'm trying to figure out if that's addressed that was addressed.

Yep, three.

That was the unjust property taking a property and returning it.

7.1 and 7.1.

Yeah.

Oh, 7.1.

Okay, took it head on, yeah.

Didn't try to step around it.

Okay, awesome.

Thank you.

Yeah, I I'm just I just housing place just priority left everybody.

You know, so I just put it out there.

Okay.

Uh legal, I was gonna say that after I make my big plea about the operation commission.

The next thing you talk about is housing and why we're in the mudhole we find ourselves in anyway.

I just want to make sure I understand 7.1.

So right to return.

What is that mean?

Does that mean return the land to the folks?

I don't see that language here, and I don't want to miss it.

I I don't I I don't try uh for me, yeah.

I I'm not thinking that this is comprehensive, all inclusive language because you know it's like a shot at what the person's intent was, and then the harms report, another department, of the oversight committee, but we're saying focus on housing.

Right.

So I I'm not as you know, but if we if it's helpful, let's put it in there for sure.

Yeah, I will offer that, and I don't know.

I again I'm trying to read between the lines because it's not spelled out.

Yeah, but perhaps the 7.1 the modification that I would offer is that we have some way for folks to um secure their property back.

And in lieu of that, and this might sound insane, but in lieu of that, especially if it's a commercial property like over in Russell City, you take the the value of the land when taken what it is now and create the the the growth of that the growth of those assets and the equity in there and return those funds to the previous owners, or if there's a property that was taken and it's now rental, you say this is rental great, you still manage it.

We get half this rent at infinite and whatever.

So that might sound insane, but how many people are thinking, oh, we're gonna move back over there?

Well, just give me the money, I can be moved where I want.

Yeah, but similar.

Do you think that uh it's more powerful that the uh evaluation is given to individuals in the form of cash or uh land, like acres equal acres are given back because of the lack of available space, if they were to have lien on those properties that are now in those spaces, they have the lien so they can collect you know rents or whatever and back rents and whatever, and if that property is now sold, they have first lien and right of refusal on that.

So it might be difficult to get back the land because you might be taking somebody else's profitable business, but if they're getting that property from the business, the funding from the business, and the availability of the the lien for the land when they uh if it's sold.

So it's a little bit of both.

I would just throw in just my reflections of what I've heard from Russell City residents after seven years of working with them.

There are some that would appreciate compensation value value over the time, and then there are some that staunchly want their land back.

They want it back, they want their land at that location.

At that location, and you all pay me my rent that you've been stealing from me for the past 16 years, right?

So that's why I'm kind of pressing the point that we should have some language here that reflects the community feedback.

We either you know some want their land and some will take compensation.

I just want to make sure their voices are heard and oh, true.

Bruce Beach, they they wanted the land.

They were like, We'll give you a big old check, and they were like, No, we want one land because it was beach, you know, it was valuable property that's gonna do nothing but they they were offered millions of billions.

Well, that manhattan beach.

This is Bruce Beach Beach.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, well, Manhattan Beach is stuffing.

Yeah, I just didn't hear.

Yeah, yeah, and that's why I was saying attach a lien to it.

So if it's ever sold, boom, there you go, I got my land.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so how is it next housing do uh great notes?

Uh legal system.

So this had nine, this is our highest.

This had the most commission submissions.

So a lot of y'all maybe a prior one.

Yeah, that would be a great priority.

And actually look this is where a lot of the policing there are so many laws on the books that don't need to be on the books anymore, and that's why people get arrested going, oh, this law is well, that doesn't really happen, but someone can send it.

Law the legal system is malleable, okay.

So they can overcharge you.

Yes.

Well, they start with well, because if you have one charge, it can be four or five, like resisting arrests can be also you know, assault.

And this is if you're resisting arrest, you push the cop, that's all.

So now you have two charges.

And then if you say a curse word, that could be a verbal assault.

So streamlining those and saying, okay, let's take a look at what you're really arrested for, and what laws are on the books, and one of the other things is when people are arrested, unfortunately happened to a friend of mine, he was arrested, he was in prison, and he was uh had a short sentence, but he since he was there, something happened.

Now he gets in an argument, fight, everything.

Now his sentence is extended.

Those are the types of things we need to look at.

Yes.

There's a lot of interview on a policy reversal.

Yeah, I don't even see their recommendation.

A lot here, uh, there's uh somebody submitted school deprivation pipeline, education as part of legal systems, wrongful conviction to your point over incarceration.

So anybody want to speak to these categories.

And if and if you look at the budget, it's the second highest, yeah.

It's like maybe I'm fine.

Well, I I'll offer uh chair boy.

I agree with Brandon Day, and I don't see it reflected here, so I'm just gonna repeat it again.

Maybe uh I don't I don't hate to say nine point seven, but no, just just look at the law, like like because someone should look at them and revamp and get rid of some of the stuff that's archaic.

I mean, we've been talking about this chase thing, this uh police chase law open for a decade.

Right.

Get rid like we should have it.

Yeah, so it's some at some point we can look at all of it, do some sort of audit and say here's the stuff that literally should be gotten rid of.

Right.

Right.

So some sort of audit policy.

Well, I was part of that, you know, if you have a reparation department, you have a legal section to start going, let's go to A, B, C, D first start doing an audit, and then look at some of the old laws that were written back in the 1800s that are still on the books today that people can still fall under because they're so and it's uh we spend 25% of the budget, one point one point four billion billion social services first at two billion and then it drops way off and oh, and public protection and detention, the sheriff's office is then one point.

I mean, we can spend a lot of money in this area.

Uh so okay.

And how much is on education?

Right, and doesn't break out in the budget, then they sprinkle it through exactly sprinkle it exactly by point.

Okay, nine okay, so nine is other, and this is where we taught uh put the data.

We put administrative and data, so this is the office.

So I don't know that we need to we understand that we'll set up the office or department, and then all the data transparency, you know, which is frankly, data is accountability.

Um and then lastly, what was also put in other is public safety.

So that's interesting because we get public safety kind of looking at you, Shed again in a couple of different well, and when you looked at um, you know, 9.1 and 9.4 permanent office of representation, whatever, and that they're both the same.

That would be the other recommendations here because if we just make all these recommendations, who's gonna work on them?

Thank you.

It's gonna hold accountability accountability.

And then I would get, but I would say just for a different perspective.

I would also say if you never set up that department, you don't have to work on anything.

Say it again.

If you don't set up that department, you don't have to work on anything because we're still waiting for that department to be set up.

True.

So I just I I'm just cautious, I'm just cautious, like you know, yes, do that thing, but you better start giving us some housing or something.

No, no, children's gonna be held up because of some department that they keep down the road forever.

We we can't even hire equity directors.

You may you make a good point.

That's why I don't want to just put it all in one back.

But I think that's just how we word it that I think that this department is what needs to implement all we've talked about.

But the first step, the first step, and we and I'm I'm gonna go back to the housing thing.

The first step should be to make affordable housing for African American and the city council city council, the board of supervisors could vote on that now.

Exactly.

So that's your point.

I agree.

And so there's a way that this can be said and done.

You don't you don't just get everything at once.

That's right.

Um, we got a kind of bill anyway.

Okay.

So uh in my opinion, if we don't push for an office of reparations of some way in some way, shape, or form, there will be one, no accountability, and there'll be no credibility in this in all of the yeah, I'm not saying leave it out.

Okay, yeah, I'm not saying anybody want to speak to data or you know, well, we talked about accountability.

Um, and then there was the public safety was kind of put in there.

Okay, so that's nine, 10.

Um, this is the health or health equity area.

Um especially repair and health, Alan, reparative health.

Um, care should be for all.

Yeah, there'd be a period there.

Not yeah, political uh disenfranchisement, 11 3 uh submissions here.

This is where we uh somebody lifted up intergovernmental, or if there were working with other cities, other people in this as well working within the cities that uh the political isn't that eleven, and then 13 is the wealth gap, which includes that's another crossovers, home ownership, right?

Right, income wealth gap, yeah.

That's not and financial literacy in general.

Because with the stories I hear are just frightening of people making decisions based on bad information and it affects their family legacy.

Okay, so now is there uh now you do the um try to prioritize the big buckets?

Well, what do people want to see one shoes?

Well, I think housing was uh agreeable to most.

Is that correct?

As far as people want to nine, yeah.

So let's do health and then health care.

Housing one and all the legal system has nine, I think legal system has nine.

I think housing the dollars, the dollars are in the legal system, tariff's office and public safety.

And of course they wrote in on, but dealing with housing will affect the legal system.

So to live and afford and are comfortable, you don't need to be out of use.

Serious, I got will, yeah.

You got well.

So all the no, but I'm just saying all of that flows into why there's a will, yeah, yeah.

Because people can get employment, they get involved in the criminal justice system, there's something understandable and then group justice just gives more money because chance housing okay.

Alan, yeah.

I mean, it's it's pretty much the earlier thing I was talking about, that correlation between wealth, income, and propensity to commit a crime.

I mean, there's no statistical difference between an employee black man and an employed white man, and there's no difference.

It's the problem is clearly, you know, stats will show that there's a correlation between wealth, crime, wealth, and many of the other things that are affecting us.

So still making those continuing to make that case as well as so we can justify the investment, whether it's in home ownership.

We do talk about economic opportunity here, but I think to describe that as jobs, small business, as well as ownership and equity, you know, uh wealth creation from home ownership and real estate ownership.

So Alan, I'm hearing uh you offering economic equity as two, but I also hear uh Commissioner Gardner offering health as two health as the second uh oh priority.

Well, time they both are so important that would just rank order, rank order, right?

Yeah, yeah.

And as far as addressing wealth gap, that makes sense, but there are programs already in place for housing where we can funnel money to to start working on.

There are programs in education we can funnel money and start working as programs in in the prison system that can be addressed as a as part of a pulling up and we address the other problems, yeah.

Well, health for me would be number two because the county is victimly involved already in health, yeah.

Hospitals and everything else, so it's their biggest spending is a question of then can we funnel state money, federal money, or whatever into Alameda County's health system, which would then help with the might look not only there, right?

You might look at it this way that by the time young men and women who are African Americans reach their fifth, sixth, and seventh grade, they're already behind wealth, right?

And I actually take a class on that, and whether they you have to deal with it in the first place, yeah.

If you put it off, it doesn't it doesn't get taken care of, or anyway.

But a check, go ahead.

I I can see your like um process.

I know so I this is gonna sound like an odd question, but what is the practical effect of us prioritizing?

Does that mean that recommendations certain categories get off of the list of things we actually put in their the list of recommendations for the forward?

Does that mean these are things that we sort of spend less time talking about when we're reaching out to community partners?

Like why are we the idea of prioritizing is multiple levels?

So we want to align the quantitative with the qualitative, so we have a lot of data that informing change is holding that we can map.

The idea wasn't to map every single all the data we have to every single thing, the idea was to prioritize it so we could support, see what the data does to support as quantitative and qualitative.

sort of spend less time talking about when we're reaching out to community partners like why are we the idea of prioritizing is multiple levels so we want to align the quantitative with the qualitative so we have a lot of data that informing change is holding that we can map the idea wasn't to map every single all the data we have to every single thing the idea was to prioritize it so we could support see what the data does to support as quantitative and qualitative we also want to give we want to get feedback from the community and so to get feedback we say here 13 things we didn't even look at and we didn't prioritize them we've been hearing especially especially at uh like what are we going to focus on you know if it's a department it's housing like we want to and then they can say no we think it should be that and the other so at least giving them what our thinking is of of how they can give us feedback um so I think it's like try trying to march us towards um you know a of a report an action plan not specific it's like a plan to we we kind of have the plan is kind of department fund the department there are some priorities so it's a way for us to call down how much lot of information we have in front of us okay well yeah but but then that that raises other questions because if it's an action plan I think we we haven't really talked about the balance between sort of aspirations versus concrete proposals.

And so if that's the case we need to be laser focused and so that means like bracketing all the things that are happening in specific cities that are within the purview of specific city governments because the board supervisors have has jurisdiction over the health system public health department and the sheriff's office um but not OPD I mean I can keep going but that well I would like other folks to weigh but I feel like there's some yes where they have just but there's also some of it like that is broken.

So if so we want to also give them a different vision of how black communities need to be treated so there's some areas where we're like that's not working you y'all might think it's working but it's not and so our recommendation is like especially on the law go you know the law is open and we have it we haven't articulated but I I think it is kind of not just do what the board has jurisdiction.

I think there is some vision and um community a different a different way of a different way for the board to govern.

Well it's also part of what um what um Shad has said I think some of it is aspirational and I think that's okay.

But I don't I don't think that should stop us understand I mean look at on the for real side some of us will probably not be here if when this was ever put in place so yeah I I don't think that's a bad thing that's aspirational back to your first point by the prioritization does that mean some things get kicked to the curb um I don't necessarily think so I think what we I think it was actually said by Jesse very well at in one of our initial meetings that as we make these recommendations there should be what are some steps they can be taken now what are the steps what could be taken now as it relates to housing move on as they're putting this new um mission together I mean I keep calling the commission department or whatever department committee so I I think that you can do both um but I don't think other I think there are some priorities I mean I'm I'm yeah I'm I'm I'm a public health guy but um but as far as where you are yeah there are things that are in the county purview things in the city purview but if we look at it and say the county is creating this department we're gonna start working on this and we say okay mayors of your cities this is how the county wants to roll forward and we'd like to have you involved and on board we need this to change all over because our system is broken and you're part of a broken system we want to fix it together is it going to be is there we're gonna be happy no we ain't happy so why not make some noise I also want to uh I also want to add what I heard from commissioner small was um more of a uh a question on strategy where it makes sense to prioritize the things that the county controls as a category right saying that hey we know you can control this and you can do this immediately so should these recommendations be coupled in areas where they actually control and then we also couple them in the aspiration components where we do have to get buy in from other cities that's kind of that's what I heard from commissioner small as a strategy what makes the most sense for us.

That's kind of that's what I heard from Commissioner Small's as a strategy what makes the most sense for us.

Yeah.

Can I just add as and as county staff?

I've been thinking about this since the very beginning of when we started having the conversation and trying to match in my head, my department had colleagues with each piece of the report.

And how does that work?

How would that look in the county infrastructure?

And there's just there's so much in the county that's done that to do to try to put it all in this report is gonna be nearly impossible.

But I think it's a good strategy, and I like the way that you did it on the budget alignment.

That to me, when I saw that sheet that you pulled, the priorities baked on the budget allotment.

That is the county's love language.

And so, like trying to connect it into each of the departments is a great strategy, but then I'm also like, is that I've been like fighting with myself, like is it's gonna limit what we imagine as possible.

Right.

We don't want to do, we want to kind of do both of them, right?

Both of them, yeah.

I this is a very important one.

Oh I was just gonna say, well, might the you have the you know, immediate low-hanging fruit.

This is what's actionable today, given the parameters of the county, given the budget.

Then you have the office um proposal for the office of reparations.

Might the office hold the aspirational or be charged with the longer term, right?

So you want the office, you want here's the alignment with the departments, and but long term you still put those to the side, but you don't maybe charge this office with implementing or seeking the feasibility of those longer things, like partnerships with ACOE to update a curriculum that's based on uh black history across, you know, um ACOE schools.

Those are things that a department would do collaborating and partnering with their colleagues in these various departments.

So it is, I think it's a structure thing, and but I do think prioritizing where you have the most traction would be prudent.

Yeah, I'm kind of following along uh what Shah has um shared here.

I want to share kind of what we did uh in Hayward that might help us think about this.

We didn't necessarily think about it as actionable versus aspirational, but we did go, okay.

What can get done in the short term?

Yeah, like for real.

Like the budget's there, we know the line items, this can get done in the short term.

And so we took everything and we broke it out based on that, right?

Part one, here the short-term things we're asking for, here are the departments and the money that we've already pre-identified for you.

This is a matter of vote and telling people to go do it.

And then we had what we called medium and long term, um, where it had to either be baked into the strategic plan of the city, 10-year strategic plan, and we had to go through and identify where would it fit in that long-term strategy for those medium and long-term pieces.

And then the last part of that, and this is what where I think I'm hearing us kind of struggle.

We we we sort of press the issue on having a governing body made up of descendants and survivors from Russell City.

And that body was intended to be the group that would hold accountable for those.

Here's what you can do now, and here are the long-term recommendations.

That body, though, is temporary.

And what we're talking about here is create a permanent body that will watch these recommendations, both short and long term and make sure that they come to fruition.

And that's where the wills fell off in Hayward, and what we're what James is frustrated with now is that no one's watching, and now it's going all over the place, and that the body's gone.

So I do think if we took a very similar approach to Shad's point, what can be done now can be attached to a line item and call it and call it short-term actions, and then long term, we want a department, and here's the you know, 28 things that we want them to get started on.

My friend, the friendly amendment in terms of not either or this, and we've been saying this the whole time is that what you're suggesting of what we can do immediately, then let's do that.

But they have to invest money in the department now, right?

Because for this we can we uh can we at least try to prioritize?

So we got the housing, we got the economic, we got the hell um go ahead.

I'll add if if we're gonna continue the prioritization conversation, I would suggest that even though family only showed up once, highlighting black youth that it should be in the top five.

Our young people are on the street, they're without education, they're categorically we're worse off than before desegregation.

No, I think they should have a call out.

Their needs are so um specific in human from the adult population that I think we should have a black youth section.

Right, no, but I say youth and education because if you're dealing with youth, we need education.

I'm not arguing that I'm just saying that that the youth piece should be however we name it, simply pull other pieces together, right?

Um okay, other and I think the office should be we talked about legal, but nobody's really stepping up for it.

I think I think the office should be right up there also, and then legal, you know, as far as prioritizing, because with you you can't solve all the problems with housing, but you can mitigate a lot of that with you know rental assistance and stuff, so people aren't struggling, you know, week to week trying to find out where they're gonna live.

Yeah, so office top five.

Is that what you're doing?

I'm trying all of them.

I'm trying to go one through ten or one through twelve, however many.

Uh so the office, yeah, should somewhere be in that top three.

I think so.

So if I'm tracking with you, you have yeah, top live big housing, legal health.

I'm proposing black youth, and then this office of reparations so far, so far.

Okay.

Um so that's we we are education, creative culture, space.

Uh data, political gas and franchise.

Oh those are rising for anybody.

Well, you know, when you're and I think creative cultural, and that is incredibly important, but if you're in survival mode, that is something that at the moment.

That is something that is incredibly important and needs to be moved forward, but we need to deal with things first.

I I the reason I just it just breaks my heart because it's it's erased.

I think it's so can you just make us disappear?

The history is gone.

You know, it's it's just a very cannibalistic way.

And I and that I understand it from my you know, I I think about Harlem when it went through that area and now it's you know, burgeoning now.

Yeah, Larry, you had a vote for any other areas.

There's the data, there's the case education.

Should go it's just an economic like number number six education.

Yeah, I have that as six based on where we are.

Economic opportunities, yeah.

Oh, I had economic opportunities.

One two of housing and economic.

Well, you put them together.

I call them one two.

Oh my bad, I missed that housing um, uh yeah, one and two.

I I'm okay.

Trying to get a feel for it.

Um, what's left still?

So the creative is left, environment, gen.

Well, general, we're we're actually lifting up.

I feel like the harms report and the department going together.

It should.

Yes, process.

So the categorization, but will that take you off?

How might this process take you off from this voting sheet?

I I don't know that we're gonna use the voting sheet to tell you the truth, because if we can get the big buckets, so if we've got the youth, and we've got the big buckets, we're just let it collapse because we are yeah, we're we're like that's the priorities here.

Here are the priorities.

We're not going sub one, sub two, sub three, sub four.

Like but let's do a housing, let's do a department because literally the department we're pulling from nine, one and six three.

So see how we're we're like that's a category for us.

It's not neatly printed and published here.

So if we can say this is our waterfall of priorities, we've gotten a big chunk of the way there.

That's right, and that's it now, right?

That's what we get to seven.

I'm at seven.

And then you would vote on that list of priorities.

Is this a priority that still okay?

I mean, you would do a roll call.

Then we're then we'll call it vote.

Well, why don't we just we're at seven seven?

I had as general.

What did you have?

A sentence.

Anybody have oh seven in general?

Um so that leaves us data, political.

Well, well, yeah.

Yeah, I think wealth happened, economic is in the thing that's gonna put that as a two together as two.

So economic and we'll you want me to go get her because we're down to seven now.

Are we at seven for quorum?

No, we're at eight.

We're still an eight.

Well, we still need a quorum in the room for them to vote.

Yeah, do we have to have the quorum in the room for them to vote?

Yeah, for them to participate.

Yeah, Shinita.

I think you just like it.

Oh yeah.

So now we can't.

We can't even vote.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, we all know left.

Yeah.

Human beings.

Can we vote?

Can we set up the priorities and can we vote by email?

Or you vote electronically?

Yeah, because can we pull a meeting together electronically tomorrow or Friday or Saturday?

And you can't do all 72 hours.

You have to post 72 hours.

Well, then let's post the 72.

So all online meetings anyway.

That was the COVID thing.

Can we can we vote?

No, I was saying could we vote basically vote by mail?

Can you vote electronically?

If it might if we can't vote like this electronically, is it likely that we'd be able to vote otherwise electronically?

Well, you can if there's a quorum in the room, but I'm not sure by the deliberation.

So we're gonna have to be in the room.

Yeah, so there's no there's no vote by mail version.

Yeah, we yeah, we it is.

We just have we're only option is called a special meeting next week.

Okay, and that's 24 hours posting notice.

Oh, oh, it's a shorter window for okay.

Can we just we're almost done with the priority?

So that well, we had I just want to make sure I caught them the other.

Um I have housing one.

I collapse wealth and economic opportunities.

So that after that is two.

Um the office of reparations, the harm reporting.

So pull a little bit of six and nine, as three, and four was the family health uh youth black youth family, five was the legal system, six was education, seven was general.

We're not gonna help.

Health is on the back.

Health was three.

I thought health was three, three.

Okay.

Oh, it's the office and the harms report that's floating.

We said that should be one of the top three priorities.

So if health is three, then the office and the harms report is floating.

Five?

Or is it five?

No, five was legal.

So it should be one of the top five.

Okay, so we have what's number one?

Housing.

Housing.

Where two is economic ill will.

Then three would uh be the office.

Sorry, the health office office.

So the three then after that needs to be four four is health.

Family is wait, health is four, and then family slash youth is fifth.

Right.

Okay, and then what's six and seven?

Six is education.

Six is education, legal system.

Seven is I think now legal system.

Eight is general, which is general, yeah, which is the harms report and stuff.

Okay, we're almost there now.

So then you have data political disenfranchising and creative culture intellectual.

We left eight.

Nine can let me.

Yeah, we collapse up.

Intellectuals, I feel like yeah, yeah.

That's this the um culture keeping that would be nine.

Oh, okay.

Data data nine, uh the culture intellectual of our culture.

So then that leaves us with last data or call it disappearance.

Nine, data should be data.

Should be so with number eight.

We didn't.

I'm just gonna say data needs to be under one of those oh collapse eight with general harms reporting harms reports.

Yeah, or something like that.

Or excuse me, plus data.

And then 10 is the political.

And 10.

Oh, look at a nice round number.

And then 10 gets us political.

Okay.

Okay.

So now we'll call a special meeting so that we can do a roll call vote.

So today is Wednesday.

We have a meeting Friday.

If we posted it tomorrow.

Friday is Jesse.

Yeah, it's at 5 p.m.

What time do you want?

But we'd have to all be here, right?

We have to come in person for that.

We do have to have a quorum definitive.

So we need eight of us to come.

Oh wow.

April 15th.

Okay.

Friday's option for me.

What about the weekend?

We did our retreat on a week.

If we challenge we get it organized, we could maybe knock it out in an hour or something.

Well, let's see.

We've got seven here.

You think you think it went Saturday?

Well, well, what if we did Saturday?

But you do it at like afternoon issue.

Yes.

Yeah.

Afternoon.

How about Shad?

Jennifer and um and Taiga Saturday afternoon.

Um I'm catching a 21st couple days.

Oh no.

I don't think the clerk of the board can do it.

I'm out of town on the 28th, so but after that, that's fine.

No, we're we're talking this Saturday.

This Saturday.

Yeah, I can do it on the 21st.

Can't do Saturday.

What about Wednesday then?

Because everyone the clerk of the board has asked me that we make sure we don't do like weekend stuff.

So what about Monday?

Monday the after?

Third.

Very much.

Well, like a five o'clock Monday.

Well we're going to put it in the meeting.

Yeah, we should do, yeah.

Oh, Monday?

Monday.

Five.

Five.

Six.

And it should be quick.

Well, I was just thinking people have to commute.

Do you guys leave it at six?

Yeah.

Yeah.

We only we're only coming here to do the vote.

Well, we need also why don't we do 5 30 there?

So people know how to no, that's what I'm saying.

Six.

Gotta check with TEC schedule, too.

Check with TEC, or we might be able to find something for Monday at six across the street.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We just need to come in for a vote.

Come in.

Yeah.

Monday at six.

It's pretend.

We can do it on a library.

I don't we could do it in a library.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Six o'clock Monday.

Somebody send six o'clock Monday out.

And we'll summarize me and agenda.

Yes.

Oh, you want that?

Uh yes, I'll summarize because I'm going to try to capture some of the notes and collapsing that we're due.

Okay.

Okay.

So we got Monday at six.

It's six.

You're going to find a place.

I'm just letting you guys know.

I'm leaving out of the country on Saturday.

So I won't be here until April back to April 2nd.

So I can't come.

Okay.

I want to be there.

I'm going to sign up.

I'll be there Monday.

You'll be there Monday at 6.

Yes, ma'am.

I'm looking forward to set and call it a wrap.

We didn't even get to the other half of our agenda.

So you can with everything.

I might tag on the are we at your yes, and we didn't even finish the other stuff.

Thank you.