I'll get you a gavel.

I'm gonna get you.

That would be great.

And that clock is not working, so we're gonna have to follow our uh clock work.

No, it's all I got you.

Okay.

Um, we roll call or we want to we have uh two people online.

Okay, we have the room.

There's nobody here.

Okay, we will still have a meeting.

Yes, all right.

Council member, uh, uh present.

Council member McLean, excuse council member start here, vice chair Harrison, excuse Chair DeGrange.

Here we have a quorum, okay.

Are there any public comments?

There were no public comments.

Public comments, okay.

Law enforcement.

Yep, Sergeant Franco, you're up.

All right.

Um so I don't even know if I need the point of super.

Uh so this month was a I like to say a law enforcement was a good month.

Um we had uh what I mean by that is low crime reports.

Uh the our total guys in our in our valley wrote 147 sites, 20 were in Sanoa area, so the Tri-Valley um big area.

Um we had a couple reports, but they were all property.

Uh and uh one for identities that but other than that, nothing major uh to report, which I like.

That's a good one, right?

I've been to plenty of critical things out in the valley.

Um, and the other thing is probably uh Deputy Edwards answered most of the questions for the fire incident that we had on Kiker.

All right.

And last sewing the stairs.

Yeah, yeah.

The last one was a good one.

That's what I talked about, uh.

Just I I just wanted to reiterate, so more people would be here so they hear it.

Like, if you see anything suspicious, always call if you don't want to dial 911, call the non-emergency line.

Like if there was somebody out there all night or during the day saying he was out of gas and asking for assistance.

Like, if he didn't want it from you guys, then call us.

We can help them, we can get a tow, we can do anything else.

But it's very odd for someone to be walking up Kyokare Road.

Like we we have sometimes issues on Niles Canyon or Palomaras, but you know, Kyokare Road is so further off the beaten path that you shouldn't have people going up in that area, right?

Unless maybe they came over there on the bridge or something.

But other than that, you shouldn't have something like that in that area.

So but always call us.

If you don't call, then we don't know that's that's pending.

And yeah, our guys are spread out sometimes, but we'll always call.

We our our our philosophy in the way we've always been trained is if we will go to every call.

It doesn't matter who calls, we will go to that call every time.

That's what the sheriff's office does.

A lot of police departments will call and say, Well, what do you got going on?

You know, but the sheriff's office always goes to every call, so it's when you say the 20 sites.

Uh what happened in those 20 sites?

Well, 20 sites, uh stop signs, maybe speed, double, yeah, mostly traffic, uh, double yellow.

Um, those are the ones that are a big factor for us.

Double crossing over the WL to pass cars, like to us, I think is the most dangerous.

The stop signs are one thing, speed, but the W lines, like so our like I said, the guys spread out.

So they have to go to you know, Patterson Pass, Tesla Road, Basco, where it's more agrees where they're going, you know, 60-70 miles per hour out here.

Though the speeds are a little bit lower, but uh the dangers are still there on one of these turns on foothill or more than some other roads out here, so that's primarily what our sites are.

One of the things I noticed twice this week was I was sitting at the light on Main Street, trying to make eventually making a left-hand turn, and twice I saw the trucks that have the gravel in them go ripping through the bridge.

I mean, ripping through the bridge, and and everybody, I didn't have to do it because I was sitting there, and everybody who was on the bridge was like, oh, no place to go.

And they literally had no place to go, and twice it was just like I mean, the guy flew through it like I'm guessing what hours are it?

Middle of the day, 101, 12.

And where's the you know where the gravel's coming from with their building or moving the gravel from?

I don't think it, I don't think it was gravel that they were the workers.

I think it was coming.

The structures are it was someplace else because they and they weren't stopping and they were just hauling, they were hauling through there, and there was no place to go.

And it was I'll have our uh motor guys sit out and check it out.

That's always asking for a specific time.

Because if there's more than multiple trucks going, right?

Then they know the cops are out there.

They're gonna they're gonna behave, right?

That's the whole part of the traffic enforcement to keep people in line that are trying to cut corners.

I gotta get there faster, and that's when tragedies unfortunately happen, right?

So it's definitely gravel trucks.

I mean, it was definitely gravel trucks.

Yeah.

No one's sit down.

And you're saying by the bridge.

It was I was this bridge here, right?

They look right now.

Yeah, I was standing, I was at the light waiting to go left towards four corners.

Yeah, and um I just saw it play out in front of me as the other drivers were just like trying to bail into the barriers, it was the place to go.

And I last time I drove here, I didn't see the barriers, and today I was there and cars just move in on the red, and I was like, oh man, it's dangerous.

Yeah, dangerous.

So we can put some cops and it's nice because you have the little business there so they can sit on a motor and not even be seen, and they sneak out.

That's that's the benefit of the motors, right?

They they can hide out.

So be aware that you guys.

Oh hey.

Be careful.

And you can also call it in too.

Like if hey, there's like trucks, driving reckless.

Yeah, but by the time I mean, I I'm going this way and they're heading towards Fremont, it's like, whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you're probably not gonna stay for item three, council staff comments.

You have something.

Um, yeah.

Just wanted to let you know that I've gotten a number of calls from people very much concerned about the flock license plate readers.

Okay.

And so I talked to Chris Miley about having the sheriff come out or somebody come out and talk about those cameras.

I'm glad you brought that up, because that wasn't one of my things to bring up and I forgot because I was more uh inclined about the fire, because that was to me that was super serious.

I I was I had some issues with the deputies did a good job, but I had some like questions like why don't you call me or at least do this?

Like there's some things I want to change.

Or when they arrested him, there's a lot of things that didn't go right.

But those guys, there's uh ro only on nights is there's a rotation every several months.

So those guys that worked that night um are now back on the Hayward San Andrew side, and we have two new guys for the next six months.

So they're the new two new guys, they're new to me, but they've already worked here, and one of them is really experienced, and there's a younger guy with them.

So two guys in the car, one guy's experienced, one's newer, it's perfect, right?

Because he can train them up and it's a vast area and it's hard to learn.

So having somebody that's already experienced doing it is perfect.

So at least I won't have that.

Those inexperienced little things go on for right now, so which is nice.

Um, but the flock cameras, um, I did get a call.

Chris called me as well, and then I called uh the sergeant who's in charge of like our flock and how we run it and everything else.

He said, if you ever want me to come out and talk about it, then I have no problems doing that.

I said, Do you have any information that you want me to put out?

It's like, no, I'll come out and then I'll and I'll talk about the flock.

Um, you know, those pros and callings with the flock, all that information is already is always been available to us.

It's just how we get it and receive it is so much faster.

Like before we could run any plate, but we have to do it on a patrol car on the radio, and then radio call back.

So it takes you about one minute or two minutes before you get that.

The flock camera, it's only given information for specific vehicles that are wanted.

So violent crimes, burglaries, robberies, um kidnappings, that's what's put in that system.

It's it just doesn't read cars and then something happens.

We each officer from any agency has to put that information in there and they have to put a reasoning behind it or it gets it gets flagged.

So anything that's put in that system, you have to put, hey, this is the police report number.

This is what occurred on Kyokare, we're like sort of that fire, arson started a fire, car w left this area, but we have the plate because one of the residents saw it.

We could put that plate in there and say that the arsonist left this area, could be starting fires in other areas to start multiple, and that's how the flock system is is utilized.

So once we put it in there, if they're going anywhere else where the flock camera is, it'll immediately say, Hey, flock, your car was uh located in this area driving whatever direction, and then we'll kind of put with technology nowadays.

Um the advancement with that, um, because you got the helos, you got the UAVs, you got the cameras to show where it's at, and it's I mean, it's faster to find the criminals and it's safer, right?

Before we'd have to chase them, jump over fences.

Now you kind of just stay hovering until they give up, give commands.

I mean, not everybody gives up, but most of the time now, because they're they're pretty much like they feel like they're being watched and they they give it up.

But I can have them talk.

Everybody appreciates that part of it.

Yes.

What they don't appreciate is ICE in having access to the data, and for people to use the data to harass others.

Yeah.

And then so for me, that's that's above our pay grade, right?

That's and the legislators pushing pushing bills and everything else.

I know we don't give that stuff out, but does flock give it out?

I don't know, right?

And I don't know how it's monitored.

That's why Sergeant Culley would have to give that information because he would be able to tell you, explain it exactly.

Like we don't get that information.

ICE.

I know that was put in the media, so I don't know how they got access.

Maybe they wrote a warrant, said hey, I want information in these areas.

Like I I don't know.

So I can't give you that answer on that.

So but I I know it's if you're using it, you have to have a reason, right?

So if it's approved for whatever they're doing, then you know, it's the laws and stuff that we have to vote for and change as civilians to figure out how we're gonna do it.

But the benefits of it of you know, catching somebody that's doing hinders crimes and protecting civilians, like to me.

I'm a regular citizen when I'm driving home and they're reading my plate, they know where I'm going, they know what I'm doing, but I know the benefits of it in case something happened to one of my family members or someone I care about, like I think it outweighs it to me, right?

So we don't have we can't really have a real discussion on it at this meeting.

Oh, yeah.

More people are here, then they have more questions and it and it benefits.

We know there is an Alameda County presentation on it, so yeah, the sheriff's office as well.

Uh if if you want to email me which meeting you would like him to come to.

Like, if you know a lot of people are coming or people that are interested in it, let me know, and then I'll schedule it with him, and then he knows what Wednesday to come.

Because I don't want him to come on another Wednesday, and you know, people that have been emailing you and asking you these questions, and they're not here to ask their question.

I I want I would rather want it to come from him because he is solely in charge of the flock camera system and our UAV unit, right?

So he monitors all technology, he's a supervisor on that, and that's what that's all he does, right?

And he's he's just intelligence officer, so it's not like he's flying these things, he's he's the intelligence guy and monitoring all those those things.

UAV stands for what?

Uh that's the drones, the drone, yeah.

They changed the name to unmanned uh aerial something for that.

Yes, okay.

Yes, I may add um Sergeant Coley is going to be presenting at the unincorporated services committee meeting next week on Wednesday at San Lorenzo Library on this.

Yes, he is.

Or are some of the people here going to that?

Because then he could do it again if you want them to do it here.

Okay, yeah, he said he did he did remind me of that, but I said, Hey, I'm sure they'll want you here as well.

So, and he's like, I go everywhere doing this, so I don't have a problem with that.

Yeah, I want the people to call me and ask me to ask, yeah.

Yeah, I want him here too.

So I hear what his response is.

Like, hey, I can give the public response.

Like, what do you want me to tell them about the flock system?

Like me personally, I've been around a long time, and I don't have access to the flock system, but all my guys do.

So I'll say, Hey, we just had this incident, what does the flock say on that car?

What is it wanted for?

Was there a gun involved?

And then the you know, the younger deputies, like, hey, this is what we have.

Cool, okay.

This is what I need, and then I'll I'll run the scene from that.

But um, I don't even use the system.

I have access to it, but I don't I don't use it because it's just something that I know these guys are monitoring constantly, right?

Because all day long you hear it like, hey, there's a storm car in our area, especially on the other side of the hill, right?

Because you hear it on our channel, and you know, it comes it comes from every agency.

Hey, this this car was used in the shooting, this is where it's at, stuff like that.

But it's not regular citizens that you're hearing cars, only things that are put in there from certain agencies and the report number of what it's wanted for.

Um, and then I personally, I mean, I've been working forever, but I have never heard of ICE in our area using it, like on our channel or saying hey, ICE is one who wants this vehicle that has never come over our police channels in any of our areas.

But you know, you see stuff on the news, and there was like ICE is using like they can, but they they don't use local law enforcement to assist them in any way, so it doesn't come on our channels, and we're not assisting them in any way.

Any vehicles they may be monitoring, so that doesn't come to us.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, cool.

Yeah, that's just a basic, but I'll I'll get started to call you.

So remind me which Wednesday you'd like him to come.

Like the next one?

Probably be September because July is really packed now.

Okay.

Packed isn't people gone or packed as in people coming.

Big agenda.

Okay.

Does July want to be big?

So far.

Fireworks fluid.

No fireworks in uh Sunol.

Yes.

And it was interesting getting the postcard too.

Yes.

Okay.

The homeowner or the tenant is for trying.

It was very clear on the postcard.

There's two days I don't like working as a place.

That's that's my top, my top day.

It's so frustrating.

Number two.

I would think New Year's year.

It'd probably be Halloween or New Year's.

Yeah.

That's what I used to shoot my fireworks on is New Year's time.

I grew up in three months and all and like it was all legal as a kid.

That's for sure.

Not anymore.

So all right, okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'll see you next next month.

Wednesday.

Yes.

And not in August.

We don't meet in August.

Okay.

No August.

Okay.

All right.

Bye-bye.

Bye bye.

Um, said she wasn't gonna be here this month.

Haven't heard from Jeff Nichols.

Haven't heard for a while, so fire safety work group.

Um nothing there, no report on the depot gardens, except the um somebody dumped 10 yards of palm fronds in the depot gardens.

A big huge pile right in the middle.

It's gonna cost us 450 dollars to truck it off.

Uh used to be the dump fee.

Yeah, yeah.

Probably not local.

Probably not.

Probably not.

Wayfinding signs, that's later on in the agenda.

Resumes in downtown.

I've been working on that.

It's discouraging.

It's more complicated than you think it is.

Yes.

Seriously.

Seriously.

Because the property requirements.

Yeah.

Well, that's what goes with it.

Requirements.

Okay.

Um, item number three, council staff comments.

We're listening through this.

Uh, I just have a concern that none of the fire people are here, so that we can talk about uh how fast they can get up Kilcare Road.

Yes.

Yes, very concerned about that because if those big dump trucks are going through, why can't the fire truck go through?

That's my question.

Wasn't he talking about at night though?

Not being able to get through at night, or was it all the time?

Well, it's open during the day, so it's gotta be night time.

I thought it was at night, okay, all right.

Well, it'd be good to clarify that.

Yeah, it's got there's got to be an alternative.

Yeah, foothill road, sure.

Going around.

So could comment.

Still, how many how many people are on now?

Uh three.

Alicia.

Oh, Alicia, okay.

This is just otherworldly sitting here in an empty room.

Okay.

Um I attached the PGE flyer, that's attachment three.

Um they had that open house here, it seemed to go really well.

They gave people a lot of information.

People came with a lot of questions, and could have conversations, uh also we talked about the flock cameras.

Um I have followed up with Caltrans on the construction mitigation plan, the construction uh contact.

Remember, we asked them in February about that, and they said public affairs, it's not working.

They cut down that one of the beautiful oak trees right outside of four corners gate, and they specifically say in the EIR that they will not touch those two trees, and they're down one of them's down, yeah.

Is there's Caltruns?

Caltrans, yeah.

Yeah, so I'm trying to get them to come back.

I've written them an email, but I may have to write um a letter to them.

Renee Turnbull was trying to make a left-hand turn onto the bridge with her huge horse trailer and camper.

That's I don't know how long it is, but it's long.

She has to go out and around.

And there's a group of guys sitting right there with a sign that says if you need help crossing the road contact us.

She in that time.

So just sitting there.

Yeah.

And she really had trouble making that left turn.

So they're they're really not there for SINOL.

They're not doing their job.

So um try and get them here in July if not later.

Okay.

Did you have a comment?

Okay.

So we're up to 4A.

The SFPUC pipeline.

Yep, that's me.

I'm here at least.

Glad you made it.

I'm glad you're feeling better.

Yeah yeah sorry I was out sick for a little bit but yeah sorry I can't be there in person but um yeah thanks for accommodating me on Zoom.

Yeah so if you're ready I can go through um our updates um doesn't look like it's too full of a house um hopefully you'll listen to what I have to say um anyway I'll let you know if anybody falls asleep.

Okay.

Okay.

Sounds good.

So as you guys I think I've I've met most of you before I'm Alicia Reinhardt.

I'm representing the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission tonight as the project manager for the town of Synol pipeline replacement project.

The goal of this project I'm sure as you know is to guarantee the town's drinking water and firefighting supply for generations to come and to do this we're replacing the pipeline that's currently being exposed crossing the Oroyo de la Laguna Creek and bury it safely underground.

As many of you may know last summer we did complete a portion of the pipeline underneath the Snow Glen school athletic field.

Unfortunately due to environmental and cultural permitting restrictions we did postpone the portion of the project that replaces it across the creek.

As with the athletic field that work can only be done during the summertime so that's why it took us a year to come back.

But our ability to proceed with with this work can now largely be attributed to the effects of our local elected officials including Senator Jerry McNurney who backed the project's permitting approval for this upcoming work.

So his support really did help us facilitate communications between the state historic preservation office um which has jurisdiction over over the cultural aspects of the project as well as the US Army Corps of Engineers which has oversight of the creek and the watershed so I would like to also thank the Sinol Glen School for their support and flexibility as we work through um another season this year with the contractor staging in the school grounds for the work.

So at this time the contractor has mobilized a site you may have seen them out there we're working with our contractors Mitchell engineering and they've started to prepare the pipeline replacement across the creek as part of that effort we did begin some excavation within the culturally sensitive portion of the project and during that work we actually have encountered some cultural discoveries.

So right now we're in coordination with our tribal partners the Malwekma alone the Confederated villages of the Lisdra nation and the Northern Valley Yoka Alone and we're proceeding carefully and at a slower pace to ensure each discovery is handled appropriately and respectfully.

Once that portion of work is completed the contract will move forward with installing the temporary pipeline and a coffer dam in the creek so that we can temporarily divert the creek so that the main excavation can proceed while minimizing impacts to the aquatic life there.

Regarding um other water impacts this the town of Sinnol I wanted to make the community aware that as we tie in sections of piping and valves, there will be instances where it could cause temporary decreases in water pressure, but we don't anticipate shedding the water off entirely.

So our first scheduled tie-in is planned for next Tuesday night.

That's June 23rd.

The work will occur at night so that we have the least impact to residence.

And in case you didn't receive notice that we mailed to all the customers, you can check our website for any updates.

It's sfpuc.gov backslash synol pipeline for any updates.

Also, I think as you guys know, Caltrans is also doing their bridge project right around our same working area.

So I just want to let you know we are also closely coordinating with Caltrans to ensure both of our projects go forward in tandem smoothly with minimal impacts on the community.

So we've been fortunate that Caltrans has been collaborative working with us in the creek there.

So we do want to thank them as well.

If there's any concerns or questions that come up this summer, we do have a public information officer, JP Streeter, who maintains the website of the project that I mentioned earlier and is also available by phone or email.

So if you go to that um sfpuc.gov backslash Synol pipeline, you can find his info there.

So again, our goal is to ensure you know successful and prompt completion of this pipeline replacement that we wanted to get done last summer.

And we want minimal disruption to the small community.

And as we work to ensure longevity of its critical water supply, we thank you guys for your patience and greatly appreciate all the support we've received from the community over the years.

So I can take any questions you may have.

Yes.

Where there's cultural sensitivity, cultural artifacts.

It's like that little quadrant gets dug up a lot.

Yes.

Yeah, so it has been dug up in the past, and we do try, we keep that in mind.

We try to dig up the same area so that we don't find anything, but unfortunately we do sometimes have to go outside of where it has been dug up in the past in order to have a different route for the pipeline.

So that's kind of what's been happening.

Oh, so you had to move the pipeline route because of the construction.

Correct.

I mean, we can't put it in the exact same spot.

Right now we're working to put in a temporary pipeline, so that can't be in the same alignment of the existing that's in the ground.

So that's where we're digging um a newly disturbed area.

Um the artifacts, are you finding artifacts or are you finding human remains?

Um, I can't speak on that.

I um the archaeologists have been out there.

Um I think it could be a mix of both.

Um, but yeah, I think they're taking those back to the lab and and processing it.

So I don't have a good um answer for that right now, just because it's being processed.

Okay.

So my question I have uh just very briefly is when we give them when we find stuff here, are we now rerouting the line to a different place, or are we cleaning up that place and put the line in there and putting stuff back on?

Um it depends.

I mean, we are looking for solutions where um we don't have to disturb anything.

So we did meet in the field yesterday, and I think we do have a solution like you just mentioned, where we maybe move somewhere else and don't have to disturb anything.

Um, in other locations where that's impossible, um, it will just take more time as we work with the um the tribes on how to handle those artifacts.

Cool.

I wanted to ask you a question about the system, it's not necessarily the project, so I understand that you can know the answer.

But I had the I had had a um the understanding that San Francisco, the city of San Francisco has separated the firefighting water from the municipal water.

Um that true not in this location.

Um, city of San Francisco.

Oh, the city, no, I I don't know.

I don't work on um the city's system.

Sorry.

Um, it answered for this location because people are saying, well, yeah, San Francisco is the first one to have separated it.

They really do a great job of making sure that there's water supply in case of a fire.

Um, but I there are two tanks up on top of the hill, but I had thought that those were both for a combined use.

Correct.

Yes, that's correct.

It's combined use, and there's this one pipeline across the the creek that does serve both the um drinking water and the fire suppression.

Okay.

And how long will the project take?

When do you expect to be completed?

We expect to be done um at the end of summer.

So in August is what we're aiming for.

We have, you know, as I mentioned, had a setback with finding you know some culturally sensitive items, um, but we're still trying to hold um that August date.

When does school go back in session?

Do you know?

It goes back the beginning of August.

So, yes, we're working with the school, we have that date, and that is our ultimate goal is to get everything done to not interrupt the school at all when they're back.

So I think it's that first week of August.

Oh, that's really that's close.

Yes, we're working as fast as we can.

I'm sure you're if you walk out there, you see we have all kinds of stuff going on in the creek right now.

So, really trying to push forward as best we can.

Okay, more questions.

I'm good.

Thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

Yeah, thank you.

Thanks for the time.

Okay, 4B.

Request to find permanent wayfinding signs, and we have a copy of that request here, the SIP request on our format.

Um Benjamin is not here, so I'll just go through it.

We have to read twice anyway before we can vote on it.

Uh, this one.

Um, one thing that I've noticed when I completed this questionnaire, is that and it's been it was a problem for us with a clock request, also, is the amount that's being requested is not on the front page.

So, what I'm gonna do is bring a revised form back to all of us to approve again.

Um, because what I have here is a copy, or it's a cost estimate that I made up, summarizing their bill, but it's not really part of the form, so it's difficult when we get the money to when we approve the money, it's difficult for it's not on the document.

Yeah, to get it to get it through the process and get to the board of supervisors and get their approval.

I guess we're not moving.

I don't know what it is, yeah.

Okay, you read I'll walk.

Okay, so we um are requesting 29,382.51 cents.

Um, we've gone through a long process uh for highlighting the downtown area, trying to revitalize the downtown area.

Um over here, so the 22 and 23.

We had several meetings in the park and at Casabella.

We installed the prototype sign, and um we reviewed all those comments here from people, and um the main concern at that point was that it looked small compared to all the other signs on the fence.

People like the sign.

Um so we don't.

I question number four.

Um, are there other sources of funding?

And we are the only funder, it's our project, it's council's project.

Um, we're talking about having the three additional signs and fabricated installed by the same sign company that built the prototype.

And we as a group will probably still need to irregardless of this form and this approval, we need to agree on the the names of what's going to be on the sign and where it's going to point.

We have to do that, and where we're gonna put this signs.

Um, there was a price increase.

Because of the two-year gap when we originally met with them and asked them to give us a bid and asked several companies to give us bids, and here we are now for requesting approval.

Talking about maintenance.

I think that this is something we're probably still gonna have to talk about some more because we had offered people were very interested in having a sign just like it for their house numbers, the bottom of the hill, at the base of their driveway, or even on their house.

And we offered it to the Snow Business Guild that they could do that for as a fundraiser, but they haven't really taken us up on that.

So we'll have to have more discussion.

And that would be the maintenance fund.

That could fund the maintenance.

As it's written here, yeah.

Um, so the last part is there anything else you'd like us to know.

We're excited to complete this high visibility community project, provide a cohesive and historically respectful welcome to Sinnolan residents.

Um, deliver tangible results for the downtown revitalization planning effort and serve as a visible sign of our investment in our town's character and future.

Thank you.

Okay, so um any questions or thoughts?

Um, what was the original price?

What's the increase in terms of percentage?

Is this the original one or the new one?

It's the new one, it's a new one.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah, I'm not surprised.

Two years of the way things happen, yeah.

In terms of maintenance, we can discuss that later, but I mean if if it's not a lot of maintenance, we can even maybe get some volunteer groups or the school might want to get involved with kids on a Saturday project.

So I don't think that's a huge thing unless it's more complicated than we think it is.

So the core 10 steel will last a lifetime.

The maintenance part of it is the lettering at the bottom.

Um vandalism.

Oh yeah, and there was some more traffic, right?

Well, you're you're absolutely right.

Yeah, you're absolutely right.

Okay, no, I and they have this breakaway signs, in case they're hit so you don't damage somebody's car.

So you're right.

Okay.

Okay.

So we'll see this again next month.

Okay.

And hopefully Benjamin will be here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Answer more questions.

He can answer that question about the price increase.

I don't think it's going to be there.

I think the fourth for our budget.

So moving right along.

We're on 4C.

It is.

June.

It's the June meeting, so we have election of chair and vice chair.

Anybody want to chair?

It's not broke, don't fix it.

Can I nominate you to be chair?

I can do it again.

Yeah.

Um, so then we appreciate it.

You want to second that nomination?

We'll second that nomination.

Any discussion?

The comments.

No rolling.

Approve.

Council Member McLean, excuse.

Council Member Start.

Vice Chair Harrison.

Excuse Chair DeGrange.

Approve.

Approach to pass.

So I did ask Benjamin if he'd be willing to serve as a vice chair again.

And he said he would.

Okay.

So let's nominate Benjamin for vice chair.

Oh, so member Connant.

Approved.

Council Member McLean, excuse.

Council Member Start.

Approved.

Vice Chair Harrison, excuse, Chair Grange.

Approved.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for your confidence in me alright there's only one pool of item okay i don't know what's going on.

Definitely going to get those gap.

Okay.

Okay.

So we have the minutes.

For um May.

Yeah, I guess it is okay right there's gotta be more than yeah.

And um, on two a the fire safety work proof rosemary had a handout and we didn't get it attached to the minutes so i think that's an addition we need to make attachment to a that was her little one sheet on firewise communities that yeah that was not part of the minutes but we need to just get it okay needs to be added to the minutes got it so i move that we approve the minutes as modified with that attachment all second public comments approved council might be an excuse council member start vice and excuse chair to grange questions as modified okay let me just since we have a little bit of time and the last um talk about what we have for july um xeno a new business out of elecitos is planning on coming kind of business it's the coolest thing in the world it's underwater nuclear batteries got it okay north stars uh bought plant from GE so they're planning on coming out I'd like to get Caltrans out here to talk about communication um PGE had promised they would be here to talk about what their project is I don't know if they're gonna come or not um Andy Schneider postponed from this week to from today to next month talk about the expansion of the waste collection services which is the uh composting where composting where you know I don't know where it happens we're just talking about picking it up in the bottom of our driveway oh it's about the pickup we don't know where it goes got it okay got it um I'm sure it'll tell us okay and then the wayfinding sign and then the yeah revised form too so it's a packed agenda but there's a good chance that Caltrans and PGD might not show yes so it's not that packed in theory so we could do the um block license plate leaders I would think there's a good chance if we get it yeah over two on that I would put it in because people care about that they do well they they're very passionate about it right okay okay got a big crowd here but I don't know if we found it item five adjourn the meeting we're adjourned all right