I think it didn't get it you couldn't bark on this one.

No.

Well I'm here.

I was getting ready to like call a tow truck and say someone was out and but that'd be mean.

I don't really know.

That's important.

Okay, thank you.

I think we're in the little.

This meeting is being recorded.

No.

It said it.

I'm really sorry.

Welcome.

I'd like to call the meeting to order at 6.04.

This is the um June reparations commission meeting.

It was actually our last meeting.

There, and our guests um we could have roll call.

Commissioner Sass.

Oh, here but he just in the bathroom.

Oh gosh.

Wait, wait, so we won't have a quorum.

Do I have to wait?

No, we'll have we'll still have seven.

We have 14, don't we have to have eight to have quantum?

It is work here.

We've only been doing this dance for how long?

13 now, two or not.

Yeah, when we were down to 13, it was seven.

Oh that's true.

We made it back up to 14.

Thank you.

Commissioner Johnson.

Okay.

Yeah, so where is she?

He's in.

Okay.

Okay.

Um I will um.

Call the meeting to order, and we'll call.

Commissioner Brazil.

Here.

Commissioner Barry, excuse Commissioner Dones.

Excuse Commissioner Gardner.

Here.

Commissioner Gaydon, excuse Commissioner Gore, that's it.

Commissioner Hursken, excuse Commissioner Johnson.

Commissioner Knowles?

Here.

Commissioner McClendon.

Absent.

I'm here.

I'm gonna go back.

I'm here.

Commissioner Small.

Present.

Commissioner Triplet Excuse Commissioner Barnett.

Excuse me.

Thank you.

Okay, our first agenda item is to approve our May 13 minutes.

Is there any edits or comments for the minutes?

I would like a motion to pass.

There's a minor thing again, spelling my name wrong, but it's minor.

Oh okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, we have a motion with the amended correctness.

The name.

Sure.

You're making the motion or you didn't.

No, I don't know.

It happened to it.

Never mind.

Okay, so I have a motion on the floor.

May 13th.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Um roll call.

For approval of May 13th, Commissioner Brazil.

Aye.

Commissioner Gardner.

Aye.

Commissioner Gore.

Aye.

Commissioner Johnson.

Commissioner Knowles.

Commissioner McClendon.

Commissioner Sass.

Aye.

Commissioner Small.

Aye.

I'm going to conclude for 5 13.

Note that Commissioner Gain has joined at 6 08.

Welcome.

If you might.

Okay.

So we have all informational items, but you know, quite a discussion on and getting us prepared for the June 30th meeting.

So of this seven items.

I was wondering if anybody had anything they wanted to add to the agenda.

We'll we'll go over information to get us ready for the 30th.

Thing I'd like to add to the agenda is mighty talked about um having uh uh self-electors get it together at some point.

Oh we would invite the whole commitment.

And welcome to the commissioner if I understand or no six or not.

Thank you.

Apologize, traffic was I mean not for park.

Doesn't matter.

Is that that bar next door?

Okay, so welcome.

Uh so yes, added a discussion item for gathering together after June 30th.

Any other agenda additions?

Okay, so we'll begin with the logistics of the June 30th board meeting, which you know it's a set matter means that we are specifically on the agenda.

Our understanding is uh we had to get all our materials in yesterday and we got our all the materials in and we don't know yet what time the set matter is.

We do believe that the clock camera issue will be on the agenda.

If it is, we don't have quite the community turnout.

I mean, oh thank you.

Um so if that's the case, um, how long will go?

So we're we're hoping that um our set matter is before that.

If that goes first, I think um hours with every public comment.

Um so the meeting start meeting, but our set matter we've requested our set matter being the afternoon so that we don't have to sit through formal link.

But if again, so that that's the latest um update.

We the agenda comes out um 72 hours, so we won't know specifically until that Friday before.

Um the two people who are scheduled to speak, uh myself as the chair and Larry for the budget components.

Um we're hoping that all commissioners will speak.

You will need to sign up, either do the registration process or you know, come signal thing, and I don't know if this is protocol, but is it possible to put the commissioners first, as it were?

If there's a lot of public comment, is there a way to put the commissioners first or it's just first come first, sir?

Oh, when you're signing up to come.

I know public comments.

Um we could we could try it, but it could be a part you guys could kind of do it as a part of your presentation, you know what I mean?

So that I can get to the end I can incorporate everybody and then have the comment after all your presentation stuff.

Maybe we uh if people can identify if you want to speak that way that's we'll know and we can organize it.

Well, they have like a time limit for you not for our presentation.

Oh, okay.

Well, hold on.

So we have been asked to keep our presentation to 20 minutes.

Um so um because then you guys should keep your presentation to 20 minutes and then we would we get two minutes.

If you want to limit yourself to two minutes, but we we have an hour.

We have an hour for our so we can pick up, you know, but we we are trying to make space for the other supervisors to ask questions and to to have an interaction with them.

So we if you if we say okay, we self-impose two minutes.

Two minutes that's not think that's one.

And then that's 10, you guys, so that's 20 minutes.

Let me just suggest this that it would be helpful to while it's there's some goodness in it being done in order um it's also helpful to have it dispersed such that you get the last word so that's coming meaning you could have 19 people talk and then the 20th come later just consider that I have a question um since we are not starting on soda afternoon bars that matter does that mean we don't have until one thirty or what's time that no commissioners are supposed to show up.

I should notice I know I wasn't budget meeting but I'm just saying it's why it's a set matter so it won't be but it may be after that but it won't be before even if the agenda were to fly by some lucky you know maybe okay but don't have a number but then no one ever mind.

Never mind you can show up at once okay there's gonna be food.

So um part of the logistics is we don't have enough money now we are we'll preserve the budget um as we go through the logistics but we are we have spent down to 20 projected um we have about 22 25 left and this and the last time we met we had a hundred and fifty thousand dollars or 1300.

Yeah but um we have to anticipated uh overages our additional time that ECC we have projected out what was that 6300 uh 6300 and some change um and then we are uh added some additional stuff videographer for the 30th uh we added some more money for the report the design so we have some additional money some posters things like that would we um made a decision not to do the food part yeah would be it's just in the we can we can uh here I mean part part of the reason I raised that there's gonna be a possibility if there was a hundred thousand dollars left that there could be some money dedicated to the transition that should still come up um it'll just come up differently but we will show let me see we'll fortack it um uh we can still talk through the logistics so you know right now we have uh let's see 20 people registered um to show up uh should we register oh um so and given that you know um I think that helps with the head count on how much food we would have had to get so I think we were thinking about 50 if we're gonna get anything but we're a little nervous about wanting to end on a deficit in fact we can't end on a deficit right because we have appropriations so we can't overspend and given that we have 2200 left we're like let's not um many invoices or we can't come in that would create overspending so that's when we um decided not to have food um but we did put print the poster boards that was a couple hundred or eight hundred so we do have a a flyer i mean a handheld um placard um for those who do come so we we can have those people to show um so of that and we can meet in the courtyard.

So you guys can see the courtyard there and and give people instructions of how to sign up.

Get up into the room.

Well, we are before the floor cameras um and then we'll just make our presentation.

We are asking for four action items that you recall.

And hopefully those things will get moved and taken, and then we'll be done with our item.

And then it'll go to public comment, obviously.

Whoever signs up.

Two minutes.

A lot of people sometimes they cut it down to one minute.

Are we recognizing?

Well, commissioners.

Yes, yeah.

The commendations, I think, are done.

You would know if you signed them.

So I think so each commissioner will be recognized.

They at each commissioner gets their own individual commendation.

So that will happen as well.

Yeah.

Only the 14 seated.

But I had made an inquiry about those who had served.

I think they were previously.

And uh we're just gonna do with those who are seated right now.

If we include it, so can we just have some closure?

If we include it as part of the 20 minutes we have, we can bring up each commissioner.

Um, how many of you guys want to speak?

Everybody wants to speak.

I think we might have to shorten it because two minutes for 14 commissioners is 28 minutes.

But if even if 10 people maybe it's a minute, minute and a half or something, so that we can have some space for the supervisors to ask questions, have some backup for.

What what are folks feeling?

I'm waiting for an answer from Artavia.

She's not gonna make it her son's graduation list today, so she's just out I just ask her.

Well, my question would be we can figure out how many of us do that.

Um public comment.

Can we talk during public comment?

Yes, so we don't have to have everybody talk during our hour.

I guess that's the point I was trying to make earlier.

And I and I started with public comment, and then but then you are limited and it's based on sign up.

But if we get there early, we could be the first one signing up.

And have people talk while you're talking and then have people talk during public comment, do both.

I'm willing to wait until public comment if they're the if it's necessary.

Yo, Tom B.

You want to wait?

It's public comment.

Public comment.

Comments fine.

Okay.

So we'll do the public comment and then we all will figure out how to sign up.

And if you want to wait to have that impact at the end, then let other folks sign up and then sign up.

Yeah.

We had identified a few people from um southern um Alameda County that might come and say why are you giving these um neighborhoods reparations?

And it would be good if we could also get the mix to that.

You know, as opposed to, yeah, essentially.

I'm assuming they're gonna come knock on wood.

I think they're gonna call in.

I think they'd be too scared.

Stand in the room, but I definitely look at them.

Okay, I think they're gonna call in for sure.

Well, you can put up in Russia City.

They opposed a lot of stuff and did they call in or did they come?

They would participate in the town hall meetings and yeah, and then all of a sudden when it got hot, they stopped making comments to stop appearing.

But maybe could they call in?

They could call in, they could have done anything.

But it could be silent, even on the reparation fund.

I mean the redress fund was put together.

Oh, it was crickets.

I would like to um just I I think I might want to speak during the present or right after the presentation, but I'm not completely sure yet.

So just right now because I'm just thinking about the presentation and stuff.

So let me review some things and I think that might be useful to have someone blocked right there and then later in the public group.

Also, I think um I would want to time limit that.

Of course.

Yeah, that's fine.

And Octavia just would like to speak.

Um, we have a grasp on time, so we'll tell her the time.

Um, but you make the distinction public comment or not, no.

Go ahead, Commissioner Vaga.

I was thinking maybe we can have uh commissioner from each um supervisory district during your presentation, like so to represent or the other thing was are we gonna be all wearing the same color or at least wearing the future?

Can you comment about wearing the word or I was gonna wear the uh shirt or shirts?

That's what you say.

Yeah, the shirt.

Yeah, yeah.

The shirts, the reparations, definitely get a reparations Tommy Hill figures.

Yes, bring it in, you know, for it.

We got 2200.

We're hoping we don't overspend that.

Okay.

Um, I would like to be part of the presentation.

Do you think we can we can I think that's good with um, um, I've raised about one commissioner.

Commission for each supervisor district during the um basically that idea.

So for example, Larry um and me are both from District, you know, Pam's district, we'll be talking.

Um, and I can talk later, and etc.

So that that would that would that could work out.

Um, are we in agreement that uh would it be e uh a commissioner from each district on the presentation?

And also commissioner and public comment from each district.

That would be saying well, there's five districts, that would be five commissioners, and then the rest of the commissioners can speak during public comment, right?

And that's if people want to, but it doesn't have to be that way, and be sure when you speak to identify which district they're in any way, so let me um so just so if you um can I get promoted to share my slide deck that we have already?

Well, we already sent in all the materials, they were all due yesterday, no Monday.

They had nine.

We had it sent in Monday.

Thank you.

Let me share.

So this is the slide deck we sent in.

Um was the same slide deck that we viewed in April, but we updated it for the um the budget.

So uh we did this presentation with the ad hoc committee and had the supervisors give us feedback on what shouldn't you not?

We we had a very long one, and then we cut it down so that we could stick within the 20 minutes, allow the ad hoc supervisors to make comments and then open it up to the rest of the supervisors.

So these are our right, we had a board letter go in.

We have the action plan report.

We do have the written report completely done.

We do not have it designed, so I think the hope was to get it printed as design, but we don't have a design report.

But we have a fully um completed written report.

Then we have our four priorities, which is in the memo, we attach this presentation, and then the budget summary is also within this presentation.

So we do the mandate, you know, we remind both the supervisors about how we got here.

So these are four talking points, accept the report, priority one.

Number two, establish the permanent governance, meaning set up go from an ad hoc committee to a standing number three.

Um conduct the equity alignment assessment within the county, and then four um operationalize.

I'm gonna make Brendan say that.

Um the office of equity so that there's um standing there, and also um part of this priority two of the uh committee going from ad hoc, we will ad hoc to a standing committee.

Also will be the then the commission 2.0 will also get seated.

So phase two of the commission will get seated, and then a community advisory group as well.

So priority two, you know, is that permanent structure we talked about.

Then we share a bit of you know the work we did.

We did the surveys, we did a short one, a long form, we had 22 events, we hit every district, 400 plus respondents.

Um, this data you should be familiar with.

A little bit more about the what the um patterns of harm that we saw we heard heard and that we pulled from the data, and I think this is really compelling.

You see that you know the numbers are are pretty high.

Then we um uh talked about the governance.

Um, you know, that we in our phase one action plan, we had the ad hoc committee, it was representative in the community that was 15.

It was the meaning voice is embedded internally with our you know, June 30th, and commission 2.0 is the implementation part, should be a standing committee, skill space, and lift experience, seven to nine members, and then an external advisory, and and perhaps that goes for three years.

Uh, and then this was um uh recognizing that we did the short-term, medium term, long term, and the 12 recommendations that were set and a reminder that this was a mandate that we had that we had to provide short, medium, and long term.

This is again bridging the the architectural gap.

You can see here ad hoc mission and an advisory.

Um this is a visual of doing the equity alignment that we frankly did not do within uh this the original scope of work, but there's all kinds of existing programs and staff doing work.

We hope to then um prior to get the priority areas in alignment with what our report recommends.

So there's the fully aligned portion work that the county's doing, partially aligned that the county's doing and not aligned, and there are the gaps.

So this would be really key to you know this next commission and the next stage of the work.

So we're we're recommending, and this is what we want to action item on for the county to do as well, and then this is our budget, and that's what I'll bring up for.

Yeah, so uh wait.

Uh did we do scroll one down?

Yep.

Yeah, so it's not the oh, it's out of source, yeah.

It's out of sort.

Oh, sorry.

Did you want to go over those other slides?

Oh yeah, yeah.

Oh, this is this is the wrong slide.

This is just my deck.

Yeah, do you can you put yourself on?

I was just gonna say um that last slide where partially aligned and not aligned at all.

That's the key.

Um that's a key in your presentation.

But the equity alignment point, yes, yeah, yeah.

Sure.

Um, who are those?

I need the long ones.

Oh, I can pull.

I'm sorry, I pulled up and pulled the wrong report, or that child.

Yeah, the old is why we get logged.

They do think it's important for you all to see where the budget ended up?

I never said I sent you the right one.

No, I was just thinking, I literally don't have to see what I sent.

Yeah, because I know there were two of um versions that got merged in.

Yeah, it was called the combined.

Yeah.

Okay.

This is the combined one was correct.

So okay.

Small panic pack right there.

Perfect.

Okay.

So um back here.

This is the alignment part, and then um the operationalization is that the library will be um the interim backbone for the work, uh, and then have a permanent place at home in the office of equity, and vacancy.

I don't know.

Maybe there'll be an announcement by then.

So we'll have to caveat this if they know this is the time to bring it up.

So they just hired they hired the third person.

Um, Anissa, so call.

Yep.

Hello, are we all?

And is she wearing more hats?

She's wearing equity.

Yeah, she's wearing hats, but they have the hospital officially sits in that role.

Okay.

Is it possible that she can be there on the 30th?

She'll be there.

She'll be in the but have you all made the announcement?

Because we show vacant on our PowerPoint.

I know.

So I I can make the corrections.

Yeah, we can do that, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I know who should.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Um, so yeah, so I can make the correct because you said it one yesterday.

Um, and then uh then just to wrap it all up, you know, here we're so that they could see cleanly after we go through it, you know, accept it, build the body, uh force alignment, and then uh give it a home.

And then we have this closing comment, refer and I think it's also in the report, reparations work, not wait for institutional convenience, it can't be less match the urgency of the community.

Of course I'll do it, you know, more embellished uh the day out.

Okay, then we go to the budget.

Uh and this first slide is just uh a quick snapshot of uh the overall budget for what the board approved, what we've spent on the general leisure to date, uh how much uh individual transactions we've had with this particular budget.

Um and then uh here I also talk about like in a quick snapshot of what we're projected to have left over, but then in another slide I break it down just a little bit more.

So we can go down.

Um through this particular presentation, uh while it is a budget slide and uh numbers can be boring.

I want to make sure that we have quotes to it.

I'm not gonna read out loud, but I wanted it to be both there while I'm focused on the numbers.

Uh so this slide right here talks about the division of spending.

So those are the six buckets that we spent the money uh are the funding that the board approved uh in.

We go to the next slide.

And then this is a little bit more of a breakdown on uh those uh six buckets and which uh majority of the spending uh was primarily in project management, ECC, and the harm report.

So a lot of the the big bulk of it was organizing our time, getting this report together, um, and then you see community engagement facilitation, uh public communication and outreach, and then meeting documentation.

So that is how uh we're showcasing the uh breakdown of the spinning of the 441 thousand 754 dollars and scroll down um and then uh this is a slide that just talks about how each and every single dollar sent uh went into advancing repair because that's our mission um and it's just another reflection of uh that same chart but in dollar amount so they can see how the um how how those chunks look in the form of a dollar versus the um kind of bar the bar chart and scroll down um and this is just the final one uh similar to the first one but it uh talks about the additional projected spending um and so the delta between the 441 and 500 these three buckets down here next to it uh talks about the full completion of how we get to uh the two thousand two hundred and twenty five dollars as the unallocated balance uh the the two buckets in the middle are the additional dollars which uh ECC is receiving for all of the time that they are spending and then the third bucket is the videographer it's all the additional social media videographer uh we were foregoing food this will also include a a really nice design report so that that is uh aesthetically pleasing to whoever receives it um and so that 10,850 dollars the posters are in there um am i missing anything skits us to june 30th yeah yeah this is June 30th that 10,850 dollars is all the things we needed to uh finalize June 30th and we're projected to uh have uh two thousand two hundred and twenty five dollars and fifty four cents left um each of these slides have talking points by the way I'm not gonna talk like this yeah I'm not making a presentation but each has talking points on it um to highlight the spending no the I know we had talked about rolling over some money other areas obviously that's not gonna happen and we were supposed to have an allocation to some of the and I don't know what the terminology is to the library um not the indirect but the right that we were service charges yeah the internal service charges and so we had hoped to have some some funds for that too and that's tough.

So there isn't so in uh I think y'all who met today they were asking was there a budget ask um the answer is no there's not a budget ask and then um it would have been a financial ask if we would have had a big balance to roll over or otherwise carry but now we're like break even they said um thanks for ranting that they see they said well it's the end of the year you're in the supervisors meeting and you're putting forth you wanted to ask for 500 to $5,000 would that would that be appropriate um and given that it's the end of the year and blah dah da da so I would like to hear what you guys think about that if if we're gonna if we're gonna do the and I think most of the supervisors except the four voice of these ones that we talked about how do we implement that do that for free question even the next phase yes it's already on July first they're gonna be an ask for money starting July first that's the recommendation to make that ask.

If that's what we're gonna do.

We do not in none of our literature and everything we submitted, we're not making an ask.

So I don't think we could do it.

I mean, we could do that, but we'll say it's true.

I just think it would be out of protocol, right?

To make an ask, um two things, and you know working supervisor one, um next phase, and we know how difficult this is, but the next committee and the next phase figure out how much money they need and have them make the ask, so that they may need a couple million, whatever, but they make that ask now.

They probably just as we experience they probably won't get seated till November December.

So that's how right they're gonna go and res on recess, and then the supervisors have time to nominate their new commissioners, and those commissioners have to be notified and accept, and that that process just takes a few months.

So then they'll get seated, let's say earliest October, maybe latest December.

We've got seated like kind of around December, and they can get to work on what that ask will be, which of course will come in the next fiscal year.

So they will have six months, not in six months.

But it starts around April, so they'll have four months to say how much money do we use our you know roadmap and our action plan, and then make the ask they need to ask.

Now we have the answer.

So you're you're suggesting that there won't be anybody doing anything about between June June 30th and October.

We yeah, that's that gap we we were talking about.

That gap between I think it's earlier.

Oh, go ahead.

Okay, it's then supervisors, okay.

That's the report so assuming the report will be accepted by the board, and the board approves the adult committee becoming a standing committee.

It's now and if I'm the chair of the committee, it's in my court.

We'll be running with it.

We'll be running with everything that's associated with the priorities in the report.

We won't be waiting for the new everybody to be seated, we will become operational.

Your committee, you're the goal.

Oh, there you go.

Okay, so can can I just have a clarification?

So am I here?

Commissioners, any commissioner wants to present on any of the presentation?

Is that on here?

People are saying I would love for anybody who wants to take any part.

Be great to have my voice.

So commissioners who want to speak during this point, you want to present to me?

Tavia and Brandy.

Well, I'd rather speak um after the presentation, but our take would KV.

I think want to present any of the materials.

Yeah, I think in her comment.

But I was just I just wanted to put that out there because I was like, it's a opportunity to get another place.

You know what I mean?

So if anybody felt comfortable enough, I think it'd be great.

Okay, can you um did you is that available?

Did you email that out?

I didn't.

Is it in the show?

I don't know.

No, I don't think so.

Yeah, so if you can email it, we'll talk we'll go over it on on our the listing session.

Our TV section will be there.

And I'll make sure that she anybody else who's on the agenda.

I mean, you if you could send it to us all, that would be great.

Send it out.

We can put it in the chat.

We can put in brown act, it's also on the ad.

We'll actually know we're gonna say, but if you send it out.

If any if you guys are all in the same email, no.

So I hear you know, but you said to everybody, staff materials through yeah, through the listing sessions, yeah.

It's only been committees, though.

I mean, we just do committees to the full commission.

Okay.

So, do you send it to the everybody okay we have been?

I'm just like, don't she's not gonna.

It's not going to being transparent.

No, that's how it's okay yeah, no.

Should we call you Mrs.

Brown about this okay soon if it's in the SharePoint, uh, SharePoint.

And can we put can we send a link to the SharePoint out?

We can get access to the SharePoint for anybody who needs it.

Yeah he's saying like send an email here I always have trouble finding it has trouble here not everything now I don't know how SharePoint memorize it isn't so much but they're saying you know help people find it we'll get into the right people we'll get it to the okay we'll get to it maybe we should just put a folder right on top so you don't have to dig down.

Here's the final June 30th that'll work.

Okay so we um next agenda item informational is design and layout to the full report as well so we can post the full report for now um as well content is there the design is not there um but you know uh it'd be great if folks read it 90 pages now or something but it'd be good to that's not the report okay that's exactly the matchment um so we'll post that as well so the slide deck demo uh the budget all the stuff that we have for June 30th but we'll uh so you can see the report as it is now um working her tail up to get it designed and any questions about yes I have a question so is I don't see anyone from informing change here today I'm not sure if they're going to is there someone here is it and then get are they going to report out because according to our timeline and we're um happy to remind everybody this was supposed to be the meeting where you all review the final draft and approve it before it goes to public I mean to the full commission for June 30th it's okay if that's not the plan for tonight but we want to present it Azure project managers holding great that piece to see when you all would like that part of the process to be completed.

So unless that's already happened on it's gone it's gone it went second it went to the board supervisor I know it went but you all as a commission we're supposed to final yep um would that be great if if Evan or somebody from informing change wants to present it we can't action item it because we didn't um I guess we could do a virtual meeting for a vote.

I mean I'm presenting it it's really up to you all for discussion to decide how you want what you want to do with it but I wanted to good faith remind you all of that point in the process I think maybe we can okay sorry I'm not waiting not to one thing you could do is you can when Alicia gets through the full formatting and it looks exactly how we're gonna have it printed um we can have a virtual meeting just to approve that's we already did the contact virtual we'd have to have a special meeting it has to be in person but it can't be a hundred percent virtual yeah for the commission the the final we could call a special meeting but we gotta get form there.

But I think the question is do we want a form and change the reviewer well they can present it for sure I want it because it's informational so they can present as an informational if there's enough if then we'd vote whether you want it designed or not it's at a special meeting tonight but thank you.

I don't know if you can hear us are you able to at least present the report pre design uh uh hi y'all um I you know I definitely defer to uh I think that was the t shirt's voice I heard sorry I can't see everyone um but uh defer to you on what is needed and what is needed at this juncture to get us to that meeting at the for the 30th question if you're just hoping that somebody could share uh an outline of what the report looks like right now or just an outline of what it what it includes not an outline but it because it's now we've seen the outline it's substantially um more content has filled out the outline could we run through the report it's so so pull up the pull up the report that we we have submitted the uh and just you know kind of go through section by section to share what is in each section is that right that would be great okay give me one moment um so I can pull up the proper file so let me let me work on this though if we call a spe well it sounds like we have to call a special meeting you be you want the special meeting to be after it's designed or could we do it based on the content because the content doesn't change but the design you will see a design report so does it matter to folks which version you vote on also it's already submitted for the board letter that's why it's locked in yeah but if you want to see a design one then that will be later as opposed to if we want to see this one we could call a meeting for tomorrow night or something um but before the June 30th for sure I would prefer to see the design version there's uh the design you want to see a design too I don't have a problem with just the content you're suggesting that we're gonna have to have a special meeting to hell or high water that's right one will be later because the design is still happening when we say later that's before the 30th before the 30th for sure but the content doesn't change not changing you will just see from your graphs a lot more community image is like that speaking on the words the words are not changing no words are being changed the key is if the design gets done like let's say next week is like the 15th like around the 2021 we've got to get a quorum get eight of us to show up to take action yeah three for seeing it designed one for in the content that we'll see tonight.

Can you clarify are we waiting for him to come back and go through the whole report yeah but it'll it'll like hear section one kind of you'll be able to you'll be able to see the then why are we doing that haven't we already sent it or we already agreed and sent it to the supervisor.

Yes.

And just a point it's in the SharePoint as well.

Is it the whole the the final yeah yeah it's there then that means all the other stuff's in there.

All the stuff we the other four documents I don't know if our PowerPoint can load it to SharePoint tonight.

I think they can load it to the SharePoint tonight too.

Yeah the last we're meaningful component of coming back together is to look at a final version design if not it is like we've all seen the content we've all shape the content I don't know if we should assemble it need to be just the final thing we'll I wouldn't even see that you know I like that I'm not going to do that.

Okay let me just call us back to order here um I think for the good of the order, Evan should just at least scroll us through the big sections and then um why would why are we doing that?

Oh, folks don't want to okay.

If folks don't want to see it, I thought you all wanted to see it beyond the draft version.

The SharePoint.

Okay.

Okay.

Hold on, Evan.

You don't have to, you don't have to pull it up.

That's fine.

You can say it's in the SharePoint where unless he SharePoint admin button that recent.

Just uh just Evan, will you please post the last final version that you have on the SharePoint now?

So it's the last thing that pops up so everybody can see.

Yes, I want to make sure I do it correctly.

Um I will post and it's actually uh uh Commissioner Corey relevant to you.

I'm gonna move it out of the folder that it was in to the main action report draft folder so that it's the only file there.

It might take a minute to move because it's a large file.

Can you just put it at the very top?

Like don't put it in any folder.

Can you just like when we get the documents?

So when you open it.

I'm making that move now, so just uh bear with me as I I make that adjustment.

Okay.

Okay, so um we either way, we have to call a meeting because we need to have an action item.

What what's people's availability look like to be able to come?

We need an action item.

It'll be one action item that we all put to vote on.

Welcome to the brown act.

What so today we're sitting here on a Wednesday.

It's up to you.

You know, it's up to at this point, it is what it is.

It's already been submitted.

It's for the board to, but it's for the board to accept at this point.

So there's nothing that's preventing them from yeah.

I thought we already had approved it, but yeah, we we did we approved the outline, we approved the early draft, we did not approve the final.

We're gonna have to go back to the notes.

Um, sorry.

But wait, but wait.

So if we did not take this action step, what would be affected?

I would press as y'all names around it.

And if you're okay with it not seeing the final, you all approve the outline and the rough draft.

If you're okay with that, great.

But what would be at stake is from a facilitative stance, someone getting to the June 30th and saying, well, I didn't even approve this.

That wasn't really what I didn't even blah blah blah blah.

So by approving it together, everybody document it, you all seen it.

It's a final draft that you all have approved, and so this vote actually should have taken place last month, or I think on the timeline we had June 2nd, but that's bridge under the now.

So if you all are okay with things being the way that it is, then that's fine.

But we wanted to raise it so that you all did not forget that there was a step in the process that involved you all approving the final draft.

Okay.

If there we don't look and say, okay, if it shows up here in the SharePoint at some point, but we can all review it, then we can go and decide if we need a meeting to approve it.

Okay.

So we don't need to decide on a meeting at this moment, correct?

Maybe at this moment we don't.

If if we if we would look at it collectively and say, okay, I'm good with that.

But if people like, no, I need another week to read it.

Now, here's a here's a brown act question.

So if it is posted here and there's a place to check mark approve, we can can't do that.

No.

You can't take action.

Take action the virtual vote.

You can't take action.

That's why.

That's why she has the lovely dog in it.

There is something rare.

Ah, there we go.

Looks like it is here now.

Two minutes ago.

And as a word doc too.

Did it's uh some it's two minutes to seven.

Do we want to give ourselves?

Some amount of time to review it.

I mean it's it's a long document.

I don't think we should we got other things on the agenda.

So you'll have access to it.

Um, your subcommittee meeting.

We're trying to decide whether to have a special meeting.

Yeah.

That's what we're trying to do.

Or go through a subcommittee process.

Yeah.

So that's my uh the only thing I was thinking is next week.

Each of your subcommittees could review.

And then that one representative from the subcommittee could address give a thumbs up.

Or say, hey, we really need to have a meeting.

That's a good way to do it.

There's something wrong.

I like our say that say that once.

So next week during everybody's subcommittee meetings.

Talk about the final report.

If everybody's in approval of it, then one of them members of the subcommittee can report back.

But then if there's we need to decide if we need a simple majority, one may vote this altogether.

If it goes to the committees, we have enough.

I think if you come back from one subcommittee, right?

One subcommittee is saying we really need to talk about this as a whole committee, that's probably a trigger to.

Well, I I'm saying what what tips the subcommittee to say, right?

So is that simple majority?

Is that one one vote?

It's a form of a vote too.

Yeah, which is concerning.

Yeah, yeah.

So we really can't call that vote either.

I was just gonna say what is the practical I understand now.

One thing that's so mentioned and I agree that our names are going on this, it does make sense for us to have a consensus, but if there is no consensus, we're kind of our hands are tied because it already went to print.

So it's kind of like it's the commissioner does not get up and say I disagree.

If you wanted to do that, that's your right to do that.

Okay, that answered my question.

My opinion, I feel that the information is probably correct, but it could be designed and other issues that could be out there.

I think all the information is probably valid in there, but I'll review it.

I have it downloaded down.

So we're going with the subcommittee.

Subcommittee agrees that they will discuss the full report and then just express if they would like a special committee meeting or not.

Then that's that's a two-week process because we meet next week.

I guess they could I guess the two committees, so Monday's budget admin, and then Tuesday listening commission committee, and then the chairs could come to the DAR committee.

All right, Tayga.

Yeah, that's perfect.

And the chairs could carry the voice of their subcommittees, and then we'd be done by one.

At least we'd know what to do by when we'd be done by the 17th.

13th.

We look you already lost a week.

Oh, next week is Saturday.

Yeah, you look at it.

That was in the 17th.

17th, 7th.

Next Wednesday.

So we'd be done by the 17th.

Yeah, yeah.

There's some time for general.

Yeah, you'll see.

We're done.

Okay, you all will have to come to the first five-10 minutes of the Wednesday 17th meeting.

I'm looking at right now.

What time is that?

Exactly.

Right.

Yeah, me to five, yeah.

Monday?

Wednesday.

Seventeen.

Because you you'll chair your Monday Tuesday meetings, but we need you both to come to the Wednesday meeting.

Okay.

For 10 minutes.

Send me a link on that.

Yes.

Do what?

In my send me a link on that.

Okay.

So I don't.

That's we manage that, so we can invite their buckler and commissioner um, Commissioner Schmidt.

Do you have a commitment?

You guys send a bro you can send a proxy.

Um you can send somebody.

So it's at five.

Okay.

I have a six block.

So it'll just be like a committee vote.

Yeah, right.

Okay.

But the committee recommends.

When did your committee discuss?

If you could add those two, that's free.

We got through that.

But you know if something comes up, there's some.

I'm gonna draw it from my phone, but yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

So then that uh so that's the design of the layout.

Um, and then uh item four here is the alternate framing um that emerged during the door process.

Um, I will turn this topic over to Commissioner Small.

And you have an attachment.

That's this attachment that was given in the past here's a side of that.

Do we have promotion?

Thank you.

He wants to return the things up.

She can keep them just the same.

I have one offer.

So, okay, so um basically, if if you read through all the recommendations, um one thing that you notice is that.

There's a lot of overlap in terms of what's recommended, um, and then there are a couple in particular that have passages verbatim that are the same.

Um I did a text analysis because that's how I roll, that's how I do things, and what you do is you take a block of text and you break it down into what they call tokens, and so each individual word, and then you can do what's called stemming to remove like suffixes and prefixes get the same root word.

If you do that for the recommendations and you compare word choice and frequency, um, and you look at I guess the current numbering is um 7.1 and 7.2, they are 87% similar.

And then if you look at um 7.7 and 7.8, they're 88% similar.

Um so 7.7 and 7.8 are about restitution funds for people who've been uh victimized by overzealous prosecution, you know, um just incarceration.

Um and then there's another one, I think 7.5, which also recommends a restitution fund.

My basic intention is that anyone who's reading the report, going to see these this overlap, and they're going to wonder why that is.

Whether or not we actually had conversations with each other to make those reconciliations, and then with the overlaps, what someone should do in terms of implementation.

My feeling is that it it was our job to do that reconciliation.

That redundancies and the overlap.

Um, both our credibility and it provides a barrier to implementation, neither of which serves what we're doing here.

And this document is the one thing that we actually well, the one thing that we had control over.

We don't have control over anymore, apparently.

As the first one year and a half of the commission amply demonstrated, can't control the whole situation, county or the state or the federal government, but what we did have control of was this document.

And so on May 27th, the DAR committee met, and I I raised the fact, you know, I'd raised the fact that this overlap was here, and then I think it's it's it's a it's an impediment to what what we want to do collectively, and um folks voted to table it until next week, the following week, which would have been the first week of June.

Um, and so that weekend, I took it upon myself to go through the recommendations and figure out where the overlap was and make the most parsimonious mergers that I could.

So this this diagram, this um this thing that you're looking at is what what I did, and so the top row is the recommendations that we submitted via the forms that ECC provided us, um, the middle row is the renumbering and the one that you see in that draft report, and then at the bottom, um, after some umplification and removal of redundancies, and if you look at this uh this document, what you'll see is not a lot of me inserting myself.

What you will see is me copying and pasting from the existing recommendations, because as the chair pointed out, you know, it that this is the voice of the commission, and so I thought the best way to preserve it was to, in fact, preserve it by copying and pasting.

Um, so you know, at this point it's it's kind of a moot point, um, but if I feel strongly that the product that we're putting out is not going to serve us as well as it could, I feel obligated to say so.

So I am, and again, there you know, the um the two faces out of the proverbial tube, so there's really nothing to be done about it, but I'm on record, so that and if anyone wants here is a document um that doesn't have three separate recommendations for a restitution fund, but has one that doesn't have two and a half recommendations about establishing a reparations department, but it has one, because this thing is supposed to be a recipe the folks coming after us to tell them what to do, what needs to be done, and I don't think making the recipe overcomplicated aids that process.

So that's the long and the short of it.

Um, and I did go through your recommendation, your your presentation, and you get an incredible amount of work.

My thinking would be to as far as next steps, when the next commission and the the um the uh the creation of the next um of the uh the uh uh department of reparative justice, that would be where we'd say here is the next step.

This is where we got to his this is the next step to very to streamline the work that needs to be go forward so your work is not you know not for not as not for nothing.

I think it's can be used, it's sort of like when you're building something that's a foundation, you first start, it's like, well, there's ways we could have done a lot better, okay.

We all know that now, but at the time we were working with something else.

I think going forward, bringing the institutional knowledge that you have here can be brought to the next level, so that could help streamline the process.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, so and you did I was really okay.

You did a lot of work, yes, and it's it's it's incredible, but I think that would be something that we could move forward on when the next committee when the department's form next committee set and have a meeting and saying here, let's make this simpler for you.

Thoughts, comments.

So what we um what we put in the report.

Well, we had the discussion and agree, um, you know, that there was a lot of duplication and redundancy, and um informing change provided a paragraph that said um that the methodology and the voice of which this report has duplication in it, so we lifted that up in the report.

In addition, we added a section called how to engage this report, because you could read each section standalone or you can read it sequentially.

You don't have to, so I'm just gonna read to you what we have in how to engage this report.

This report intentionally reflects a community-centered voice rather than a purely technical policy or in doing so.

Certain themes, demands, and historical patterns reappear throughout the document.

These repetitions are not accidental, they reflect the consistency and the urgency of the community testimony, lived experience, and collective memory shared across generations.

This report prioritizes movement education, consciousness building, historical affirmation, and public engagement.

It seeks not only to recommend these solutions, but also to cultivate deeper understanding of the structural harms that necessitate reparations in the first place.

As a result, some recommendations are presented in broad and aspirational terms rather than fully developed implementation model.

The report is intended to contribute to a growing ecosystem of reparations literature by centering black community dialogue, cultural memory, and collective self-definition, is designed to create an emotional resonance, inspire civic participation, and encourage continued community conversation, organizing, and policy development, and then we go on to say if you're a supervisor, engage it this way.

If you're a community uh member, engage it that way.

So we have a bit of a preamble that explains some of the duplication, um, that you will see in different parts.

I do feel we have addressed the issue, um, but I do agree that this was in the name, a draft report, and and I uh I agree that it could be seen as um lacking credibility or having some uh this connection, I don't see it that way.

I think I I really am centering the community voice.

Uh I thought we were centering the community voice.

We saw this at the very beginning, even in the draft outlines.

This this redundancy was there, and um, you know, Shad did, you know, brings this up.

Uh, and so we created this solution to help navigate why we had landed as a commission on all this duplication that we have in the report.

So we have seen the report, all of us, and we had seen the redundancy, and there they sit in different places to Chad's point, but the but the commissioner who said reparation fund, that that way, and another commissioner who nearly wrote the almost the same thing, but those were two separate commissioners, and we kept each commissioner's voice in the report.

Could there have been you know some more discipline around consolidation?

Yes.

Um, but I think I think it's fair to say it really did represent the intent and how we worked together, that's how we worked as a group, that we, you know, really left space for each of us to add the pieces to the extent that we literally, chapter five is 44 recommendations submitted individually, so you know, commissioners' gating section is there fully.

Commissioner McClendon's district is there fully.

Does it repeat repeat in other areas?

Yes, but I think there was a there was a way that we work together that is visible in this report, and that I think the format shows it.

There's a line in here that says this report is a living document.

And that is whereas to your as to your information as we go forward, this report is a living document, and I think right there that allows us to make the changes and you know, going allows the report and the ongoing commissions and and um the commissions committees and departments to move forward on this.

Yeah, I don't I don't think it's even role, yes, and that's where I think we should accept that is the of course, yeah.

And I think you're right about what you just said, um, Chair Gore.

I don't think it's in contradiction.

It would have been nice to have done it better if that's true.

This is where we are, and actually, I do think it reflects where we are, and it is living, and it should go to the next group.

That's a good idea.

You should have.

Well, you oh, you're Mr.

Brown, I see.

And I appreciate and I appreciate that the attachments are fully in the minutes on the record, it's in the video, and you can they see all of this stuff.

So it you know, they can whoever has it has it next, can go back and pull all the different conversations we have with all the different listening sessions and all the other stuff, so that you know there is full documentation to the trail that folks can uh along with our SharePoint drive.

I kind of wish I had this table as I was going through the document that would have been really helpful to streamline it.

Yeah, I'm just having a hard time on just two two key areas.

One, Commissioner Smalls, if you can maybe I'm missing it, the redundancies diminish the poorness of the document.

Why?

If you read, for instance, the state report, there are I remember the I I forget the precise count.

There are dozens of recommendations.

Now they all intersect in that they're trying to create a web of reparative justice, but there's no repeating or redundancies, right?

And again, like what I'm saying, saying it's not even just sort of different ways of saying the same thing, which personally I I could, you know, I think in a society that is becoming progressively less literate, you don't want to make the reader work harder than they need to.

And the other thing is like there's parts that are sort of there, I'm again literally verbatim, like there might have been like some duplicates of mission, at least in like two two cases, and so when people are reading through it, they're going to have questions, and these are all unsigned, and that's how I went through them.

I I stripped out the names before I went through any of it because I I don't want to know who wrote what.

Um they're unsigned, and so they're going to attribute them to the collective.

So why would a single author repeat themselves instead of with one unified voice say this is what we want, and you know, get to it.

I mean, if someone can convince me why that's it's useful to have again verbatim passages repeated when the goal is to efficiently and effectively convey policy recommendations, willing to hear it, but I haven't heard that argument yet.

I'm being completely honest, and um, do you believe that based on how it's delivered to the board of supervisors that they're not being able to accomplish their goals and missions?

I mean, the ultimate variable is their willingness.

But if the if the goal is for this also to be, you know, an instructive document that other people can sort of read and take with them in their own sort of reparations progress, again, like I I think it is a barrier to interpretation, not an insurmountable barrier.

You know, I wouldn't go that far, but I think it creates creates an issue that I don't think is helpful.

If I can jump in, I just want to put on the record since this is um a public that as the chair of the committee subcommittee, um, I did notice absences of commission members from the meetings for an extended period of time, and I went out of my way and invited those commissioners back, and that included you, Commissioner Smott, but we didn't see you until the 27th, which was on the eve of when the report needed to be submitted.

So I just want to make sure that the record is completely clear that a lot of the sense making and other tools that ECC and IC gave us to streamline the process of the draft being submitted or done without your input.

So to the extent you're asking for an argument as to can I finish?

The extent that you're asking for an argument, and feel free to correct that word if it's not the right one, um, as to why the report um isn't adequately reflective of the community as well as our commissioners' opinions and life experiences, I would invite you to reply as to why you weren't a part of that process until the week before the report was built.

Okay, so the first thing is.

Um disclaimer, that's one thing.

Now, to the point of not being at the meetings, there were multiple meetings where I simply was not sent the meeting invite.

Um, and brought it up during the meeting, and then the next meeting, there was no invite again.

And to be completely honest, since you brought it up, I did not find the DAR committee to be reliable partners in working through data and report.

I'm being completely honest, brought it up.

Now, if we I mean, if you want to go all the way back to the survey, that's that's sort of the root of my ultimate sort of mistrust of you and other members of the subcommittee.

I brought things before the subcommittee that were based in my professional and educational expertise, and people looked at me like I had two heads for things that I thought needed to be implanted in the survey to make it a useful tool for gathering community opinion, and I got pushback not based in evidence, not based in expertise, but based in the fact that it seemed inconvenient, and so after the fact, I'm watching a presentation to the ad hoc committee about the survey, and Michael from Informing Change says that yeah, there are about 30 um responses that might have been bogus or bots or spam.

And that was the precise thing that I wanted to be able to detect in the survey.

And not a person did anything to me, the effect of okay, we see where you were coming from now.

We get why you were you had you know a B in your bonnet.

Wow, that's such a dated phrase.

Um about this thing, why you were so insistent that it needed to be done because it happened.

I told you it happened.

Listen to me now, believe me later on, and no one did, and then when it happened, no one had the decency to be like, hey man, sorry, we pushed back on that.

We we read with in principle, and then it didn't happen, and then you had to push back again to get it done, and then it was implemented, and then we found the things that you said we were going to find.

No, no, no, it hold on, and so when I think about that, the patent disrespect for my expertise, for my voice, for my for my considered opinion, um, and the fact that people don't even uh have um can't even bother to invite me to the meeting, I decided to prioritize my blood pressure.

This commission has taken years off of my black life, and so I decided I wasn't going to subject myself to a group that I didn't feel respected me.

Are you finished?

Yeah, okay.

I just want to just clarify because since we're making a record, I want to make sure it's completely clear.

There were hiccups at the beginning of the subcommittee uh meeting with respect to who will be controlling the zone, but that that was changed, and as a witness, we have Dr.

Gardner, who was actually an invited member and not even a true subcommittee member who made every single meeting, even when sometimes none of us could be there, and so I don't think it's accurate to say that you needed a personal invite in order to attend.

The other thing I just want to clear up so we have a very clear record is that the library went above and beyond after we had already voted to keep the survey as is to put in your changes to make sure, and even having to retype a very lengthy survey to make sure that we didn't have the problems that you felt were gonna arise due to it not having the checks in place to make sure that it wasn't gonna be a falsey um, I guess, um, submission.

So I don't think it's accurate for you to say that you your opinion in your state in your um thesis, as well as your suggestions were not implemented because they were to people's detriment because they had to take more time to make sure that you were appeased and that things went the way you wanted them to go.

Okay, I just wanted to make the record.

I mean, so I mean, again, like just you brought this up, like you opened this door, and so I'm not going to just let that stand when I don't think that that's really an accurate presentation.

What happened?

So the last week of January, that's when we had our retreat.

The you sent I I sent an email to the subcommittee being like, hey, here are a few things I just want to flag, you edits I think we should make to the survey.

Um, only you replied, which I appreciate, um, but I also posed questions about security and preventing spam, which no one replied to.

And then at the retreat, you announced that the survey was live.

Um, and so that Wednesday, when the DAR meeting would have happened, uh, Commissioner Gardner, Commissioner Gore, and myself were at UI DC.

So I'm I'm I'm struggling to see where you're getting this that we all voted to finalize the survey.

I never voted to finalize the survey.

Survey nevertheless went out.

And on the back end, again, because I care about preserving the survey as an instrument for gathering data.

I insisted that we add questions so that we could detect bots, spam, and we could detect um malicious respondents.

And again, on the back end, I find that there were at least, you know, there were more several people that you were.

And then you found you found responses that were focused.

No, I think the prior to implementation of the changes.

And once your recommendations were accepted, then they were all clean after that.

Okay.

So it was I just want to identify that you were right.

100%.

You and I had a conversation about it.

Once we have I was like, yeah, you're right.

The 30 were the ones that went out prior.

And then after your recommendations were implemented, everything was filtered.

And so I would say it wasn't we have perfect after.

Right.

And so we're right.

And that was implemented, but I don't know.

And we pulled the third.

I know.

The third is pulled, meaning we didn't have noise in the survey.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I don't have judge to the point.

I think that made sense.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Um, so um, thank you, thank you for doing this work and sharing the information.

Uh uh any other comments that feel like just a quick comment on um and this for your just so you as you're thinking about um supervisor Miley going forward and creating a you know department commission and oversight, these lessons that we're talking about here need to be moved forward.

So if the new commission says we need to gather some more information on the specific thing, we have the mechanisms to go forward and use this.

We all came together not knowing each other with various different experiences, then yes, it was hard to tell essentially, but we don't need to give the next the next um group that particular, it's like having your children standing on your shoulders so they can be you know be better than you.

I think with all the work that we've done here moving that forward, I think we could it would make sense to review where we are so they don't have the same problems, they can create new problems for themselves.

Yes, yes, and and that's what exactly what I'm saying.

Just back and say, hey, what went right, what went wrong, what would you have?

And I think that would be useful.

So that that would be helpful.

And I think it's good I did not even know about that that concern, um, completely and that on the record.

I mean, this meeting is a part of the records, part of the history.

Um, and I would uh believe that the ad hoc committee would uh note this meeting uh in and commissioner small's document as a document that needs to be included in the future infrastructure.

So this is a part of that journey that the next phase would be able to adopt, and not only the board but the ad hoc understands that there's a document down by a commissioner that allows uh for a clean filtration of the recommendations and should be viewed as an structural document uh to be used.

So, and I I would say the other the other comparisons.

If you compared our county work to San Francisco, city and county, I was just with Eric McDonnell and the state.

The state had 20 attorneys from the Civil Rights Department, San Francisco had the human rights commission, three dedicated staff, and we sat for three years with the library the last 10 months, it just structurally it's gonna create these gaps, these missteps.

Uh, structurally, we had nowhere near the support.

Um a lot of the other reparations work has had it, and you know, give me two attorneys, and you see it's true but I yeah, two attorneys who's expertise is in civil rights.

How about that?

We have attorneys here.

You all have expertise and other things, and it it was you know, and Stephen Leo and I, Commissioner Bazille and I have had conversations for somebody who's been 1966 and the reparations discussions you all had at Merritt College to where we are today.

We've been having conversation I've been feeling like we're not making progress you're like no no not making progress.

You all are making a lot of progress like I said I picked this up in uh in 71 at that law school to get in it to it from a legal perspective and that we concluded that legislatively this issue has to be addressed and the Canyon thing came along after that to move into the legislature understanding that we're not gonna get anything out of the courts even if we could get into the courts the most important thing is that we pull together all the facts that if we can clear our you know they present those facts and so what I'm feeling like now is this council of Narcia they all came together and put everything together in terms of what they wanted to exclude and not exclude this is in 353 but way back I gotta go back further than that was there was no Ethiopians at that cops that's right and the Ethiopians then all of the things that they threw out the Ethiopians kept they kept in and they said high in the mountains in Ethiopia with no political groups trying to overtake them and everything and so when they finally did open up the Ethiopian Bible and see all these things that the Ethiopians had kept nobody wanted to deal with it until a young man looking for some fertilizer threw a rock in a cave and they found the dead sea scrolls and all these other things and found out on all this Ethiopian stuff that's a thousand years before the Romans even came along they kept everything and so what we ought to do is that whatever perspectives are brought out at each level somebody should be responsible for keeping it all because this thing is going to go another 50 years maybe.

And we don't want to have you know somebody come up with the Dead Sea scrolls and we got commissioner Sass that was I mean excuse me excuse me.

I think all the I want I want everything that was done to somehow be recorded and documented so that us legal minds when we finally do get a moral court that wants to hear or a legislative body that wants to legislate that they'll have all record they'll have or they'll have a record by which they can pick and choose out of what they want and not want but it's better to not have it hidden in a jar somewhere in the in the Nagamadi uh scrolls or whatever 60 years.

Okay so thank you that um the other remarks you would like to make a other remarks okay so that takes us to um formally you know recognizing the conclusion but I do want to um make space um for this last push people I know we may be exhausted, but we we've got to fill that room on the 30th.

And if the flock cameras are there, we're gonna have to just give them our flyers too.

But we've got one big push that ECC is helping us with.

Um, so yes, please.

Awesome sauce.

Okay, so can everybody say June 19th?

June 19th.

Remember June 19th?

Trying to make sure y'all can't.

June 19th.

June 19th.

Okay, no, that just a playback, just a to January when I stood before y'all, and I said, everybody say June 30th.

Y'all was like, What's June 30?

Oh, June 23rd.

Yeah, we thought, and we thought it was gonna be June 23rd.

Alas, we are here in June, and y'all have done, I mean, a Herculean job in pulling together and and walking in integrity with the commitments that you all identified in January to get you here, and that is with a draft report.

Uh, we were at the ad hoc meeting as Supervisor Marquez asked, um, how long did it really take?

She's like, You all did so much work, and how long have you been at it?

And I think I I've been trying, it's like, oh, about a year.

But then I thought I went back and I did some, you know, backtracking and looking at documents, and I'm like, oh no, we started in August.

So it's been like eight months worth of work that we all have done, um, towards this goal of getting a draft report before the board of supervisors, which was your primary charge.

So just want to again acknowledge all of you for your work.

Um, what I like to do in my fun, facilitative cheerleading way is ask everybody to take your right hand and throw it out in front of you, throw it out, and then throw it over your left shoulder.

So whatever you want to do, right?

For job well done.

So, where we are, how do we are y'all still padding in a bit?

I'm like, okay.

So let me know, according to subcommittee.

So again, the high level focus for this month.

We're at June is to one.

I'm looking at that bottom corner, the bottom section where it says road to June 30th key milestones in in the red is to get the final report.

I'm reading it for you so you don't have to out loud, you don't have to try to read that print.

Final report completion to the board, and that has happened, correct?

Right.

Yep.

As of which date, does anybody know?

Good morning.

Tuesday morning at 10 o'clock.

What happened this week and what date was that?

That the dates that was June 3rd.

Okay, yesterday, yesterday.

Okay.

Yeah.

Night.

Okay.

So we're about a week off from the timeline, but we made it.

Um, nonetheless, community mobilization is stakeholder engagement.

So that's the work before us now.

And that is to mobilize to get people to the June 30th meeting by show of hands.

How many of you have at least shared with one person the upcoming June 30th meeting and invited them there?

Okay, keep those hands up.

Five people.

Drop your hands if you're 10 people.

20.

Let's get 15.

30.

What?

I've been talking about.

We went to an event on Saturday to talk to the Tri-City African American Scholarship Committee.

And I'll I'll see black people on the street say, Hey, well, I saw you the other reference, give me a favor, scale this.

At least we better put that people.

Are we talking people in the book room?

I'm just saying, hey, come on, sir, do whatever you need to do.

This is us, read it up.

I don't care.

You don't think so?

That is the work right now.

That's the task at hand.

So keep reaching out to individuals, letting them know about the report to review the report to visit your website.

How many more business cards?

Okay, never mind.

So I just have a few things.

Yeah, point them to the website.

Um and the stakeholder engagement.

Um, following up with those partners, all those amazing pop-ups, community town halls that you all do.

Remember those organizations.

They're listed in your report that you all are um acknowledging.

Remember to circle back to those folks and let them know the report, the draft report is completed, so read it.

If nothing else, their name is in it, and to show up on the 30th, right?

Next, June 30th, the day.

We see your presentation and the action plan report.

And then transition planning, future state discussions for just implementation efforts.

So that's it.

That's it.

Where we're at.

That's where we are.

So again, thank you all for all of that.

Hard work, diligence, fortitude, persistence, forming, snorming, norming, performing.

Maybe morning when this is over.

Any questions you all have for Teen ECC, definitely let us know we're here.

Sean, the trees, myself.

We are so grateful, so honored to have had the opportunity to serve you.

We're gonna meet up in debrief.

We're gonna do the electric slide in y'all honor.

All versions of it.

It's been awesome.

We will be there on June 30th.

And you have here each of the subcommittees, the work that you all are currently um working on according to your June priorities list.

And I will pause there if there's any questions.

I will just take a note that um working with Sean has been a pleasure.

He's literally crazy, so we get along very well.

And you know, I tell him that all the time, but I want to let you know as his part one of his partners that he's he's really does a great job of um helping streamline helping get things that are sometimes on my head on the paper so we can have an actual good meeting.

Yes, yes, thank you.

I will definitely relay that.

Anything else?

Easy saying, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Easy information.

Um, we had an additional um agenda item of gathering together um post June 30th.

So open to ideas.

Commissioner Carter, if you wanted to start the banter here.

Well, it's been quite an experience.

Um this um board.

Um, we didn't know what we were gonna do.

We didn't have any money in the beginning.

And to put it in short, you know, it's been over the last eight or nine months that this has come together.

It's it has faults as been pointed out.

Um, but it's still I like the um the message that um what's his name?

What's his name?

Um Leo giving you a bad time, Leo.

Um that um he put out some time ago, and I've I've kind of been there.

Alameda County for a long time, particularly Oakland has been the tip of the spear in the fight, um, particularly for African American and Black Rights.

I've it's been a pleasure to serve on this.

It's been hard.

It's been difficult.

It hasn't been as rewarding as I'd like, but I can't think of anything else I want to do with my life than to do to be involved in this fight.

Um having said that, I think it would be worth our while to um have a meal together, have a drink together, or at least sit down and talk to one another.

And maybe uh we began to do some of it today.

Um, there needs to be a summation.

You're pretty yeah, there needs to.

I mean, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Okay.

Um, maybe that needs to be done before we have a drink because you don't want to have a drink and get into the ugly.

So ugly then start drinking, either way.

Um, so I I wanted to suggest we try and do that.

Um, I guess where I was coming from, why don't we the second Wednesday in um July try and figure out some place to go where we can sit down together?

Now I'm I know it can't be here, you know.

You know, my house doesn't fit if 150 people.

Um I'd like to hear what other folks say, and then we don't have to stay any longer.

I just it's it's been quite an experience.

It's it's a good life, but we should be here.

If if he just turns around, we can just meet here.

We know the guard downstairs, he knows me.

Uh no.

Just show up.

This is Brown's lovely daughter is no more after the 30th.

We're at the top time.

Brown act turns into a brown link.

We call whiskey.

I'm sure.

Um I thought you know your first suggestion of June 31st is not going to work.

He said the second.

You feel I am pulling your leg.

Do you feel taller than yeah?

So yeah, that does sound um that that seems like it might work.

I just don't know where we meet.

I don't know this area very well.

Places, uh, sorry.

You're going.

Aren't you going next week to the June team?

There are many different June team things that I'm going to email.

No, I won't be there.

I have I have a meeting and a training.

I will not be able to attend that one.

Tender Scott's.

They have a piano player sometimes, so it might we might not be able to hear that well.

I keep good.

I lost my phone.

Okay.

So the piano player for 30 years.

It's to our benefit if he's there.

Um yeah, no, I and then plus we could you have to pay money to get the uh other room.

But if you just show up by the bar and there's 15 of us.

Yeah, you can just hang out at all.

Yeah.

So why don't we do this?

Um at the uh listening session, I'll have Sean put that on the agenda, see if you come up with places.

If anybody has ideas, places just send them over to uh ECC, send them to Sean, and we can see if we can look at stuff and then get the if people just wanted a room, you want to libate in I don't know.

If it's just a room, we can offer it to our office is actually in preservation park.

So we have access to all the conference rooms if you all want.

But do you have brown liquid?

And then of course we get to you know the cost of it all.

Would everybody want to pitch in?

So well let's let's just send suggestions.

I'll pitch in.

Okay.

So what we're saying, so we have two tasks for the subcommittees to do.

One, you're gonna review the report, and then two, you're gonna make recommendations on where we can have a have it have a uh at least have a toast.

You know, black owned.

Like so on that committee.

I'm bringing up the fair.

Yes, okay.

I know the owner of everyone.

So we have two agenda items for all the committees is and then the call to can we please agendize on each committee to do some community engagement, try to fill the room, and then we'll find out the official agenda because we we may have to strategize something if we have a book.

The flop camera thing is agendized before us.

We may not get to Mike.

Okay.

Are the good of the order?

Is there any items?

But we'll be getting together.

Yes, we're gonna get together.

Gather for those who choose.

It's optional, it's not just the next official gathering is at one o'clock.

We don't know what time, but we're hoping it's the afternoon.

Building across the street to the top floor.

That one.

Yeah, no, yeah.

Oh, where's the way that that building right there?

Okay.

But right here.

I'll be like, I don't even know where I'm going.

Can I quite I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Can we please recognize for all the work?

Thank you very much.

Meeting is okay.