Okay, good evening, everyone.

I like to call the unincorporated service committee meeting for June 24th order.

Clerk take the role.

Supervisor TAM, excuse Supervisor Milan.

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Claudia.

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All right.

So good evening.

Sorry, running a little behind.

Got caught in traffic coming out of Oakland this evening.

So everything on our agenda tonight is informational.

And which is good because we just have one representative from the committee here.

So our first informational item is um the budget update.

Thank you, Supervisor.

Um good evening, everyone.

Melanie Atendito from the County Administrator's Office here to provide an update on the fiscal year 26-27 proposed budget.

Um the board is in uh did conduct uh budget hearings and deliberations this week.

So um for folks that were tuned into that process, a lot of this content will look quite familiar.

Um so just a brief overview of what I'm covering this evening.

I'll start as always with an economic update as well as uh state and federal updates.

Uh we'll then move to a little bit of county 101, um, talk about the county's responsibilities, uh, a little bit about the difference and differences between counties and city structures, uh, as well as county financing and uh really stress the point about how uh limited our revenue raising ability is.

Um I'll then move to move on to summarize the fiscal year 26-27 proposed budgets, um, do some highlights on uh the unincorporated area investments as well as some enhancements we have continued to make to the unincorporated special budget, uh, and then close with pending factors and looking ahead.

So in terms of the economic outlook and state and federal updates, um really the top lines here that you're seeing um in this press coverage center around the technology sector trends remaining mixed.

Uh there's continued investment in AI uh all while workforce reductions continue to happen.

So this is a reflection of productivity gains but ongoing labor market disruption.

Economic uncertainty persists due to federal policy changes, market volatility, concerns about the federal debt, and the potential for renewed inflationary pressures.

A lot of economists have highlighted that we have what is referred to as K-shaped economic growth.

This is a reference to higher income households benefiting from asset appreciation while many lower and middle income residents face affordability challenges and labor market pressures.

Federal immigration policies and demographic trends, including lower birth rates and housing constraints, are affecting labor force participation and contributing to slower economic growth in the state.

And the state's unemployment rate remains elevated.

I think California is now tied with two other states at the top of the list in terms of its unemployment rate at about 5%.

That's above the national rate of 4.3%, while the counties Alameda County fares somewhat better at 4.1%.

Though we have noted in previous presentations that East Bay employment in particular continues to lag regional trends.

So cost pressures remain significant, particularly in labor, health care, construction, and contracted services, despite inflation moderating a bit.

These conditions underscore the need for continued fiscal discipline to sustain core services while maintaining long-term stability.

So we are operating under multiple simultaneous pressures that require balancing stakeholder expectations, fiscal realities, policy mandates, and board priorities.

We must respond to the needs and expectations of our various stakeholders, residents, labor, community-based organizations, advocacy groups, civic organizations, and government partners.

Counties face increasing service demands while managing structural funding challenges, aging infrastructure, unfunded mandates, state and federal funding uncertainty, and limited revenue growth.

In terms of policy pressures, new legislation, regulatory requirements, compliance obligations, governance changes, and modernization initiatives.

All continuously reshape the operating environment.

And then our board, the Board of Supervisors advances strategic priorities that require resources, organizational focus, and implementation capacity across county departments.

So these pressures obviously don't occur independently.

They often compete for the same limited resources, staff capacity, and leadership attention, and success requires balancing our immediate operational demands with long-term strategic goals.

So the challenge with all of this is to remain fiscally responsible, policy compliant, responsive to stakeholders, and aligned with our board's priorities while continuing to deliver high quality services to our residents.

This slide is a high-level summary of the newly finalized state budget agreement and how it directly impacts county operations, local revenues, and our safety net programs.

As you can see from the top row of the slide, this budget represents a delicate balancing act.

The state has successfully prioritized fiscal stabilization and revenue growth by simultaneously delaying some of the most severe cuts that would have impacted our local communities.

Moving on to the next slide, at the federal level, we're seeing a rapidly evolving policy environment that has significant implications for immigration enforcement, national security, and future federal funding priorities.

Again, in the interest of time, I won't go through all of the detail on this slide, but I will summarize and say that the overarching trend here is increased federal investment and immigration enforcement and national security, coupled with significant political negotiations around surveillance authorities and future spending packages.

These developments will continue to influence the federal policy landscape and may affect local governments through funding opportunities, compliance requirements, and operational impacts.

Moving on to some county 101.

To understand our constraints, it's important to remember how counties are structured.

Many of you in the room have seen me present this content before.

So the county's fiscal dilemmas essentially that when the economy worsens, we anticipate a significant increase in the demand for our safety net services.

Our ability to raise revenue to match the demand and the cost is severely limited, however, by things like Prop 13, Prop 218, and ERAF, the education revenue augmentation fund when the state shifted local property tax dollars to backfill its cuts to schools.

So we've seen over time a progressive loss of control over local spending.

Many of our services provided regionally are mandated by the state and federal government.

Those mandates have continued to increase, and we don't always, sometimes the reimbursements don't come or they are delayed.

And the state continues to transfer responsibility to the counties.

Sometimes it happens the other way around, as we're seeing with Prop One, and causes a different level of a different type of pressure.

And when they do realign programs at the local level, it's often with inadequate ongoing funding.

So I'd like to briefly cover some key differences between cities and counties on the next couple of slides.

So cities generally have more autonomy and revenue generating options than counties do.

The legislature, as I just mentioned, can delegate any state function to counties.

Counties are a subdivision of the state.

They can also take those functions back as needed.

Most of our funding comes from state and federal sources.

So you'll see that in a future slide.

In the general fund, it's about 65% of our revenue that's coming from state and federal sources.

That revenue is restricted to specific purposes.

Local revenues, particularly property tax, provide the most spending flexibility.

So on this next slide, it's you know a little bit more of the same here.

The city services are often more visible and serve all residents within its geographic boundaries.

They have a local service delivery focus and specialized departmental structures.

While counties, as I just covered, are designed to deliver statutorily defined mandated services.

So they tend to be broader in school in scope, and we have more, we tend to have more complex intergovernmental relationships.

Most county financial resources go towards health, social services, and public protection.

So that essentially means it may not be as visible.

I think a lot of average residents don't understand what counties do.

We tend to serve smaller subsets of the populations.

If you think about public protection in general and those who are justice involved or folks who are eligible for public assistance, it's not, you know, necessarily a broad swath of the population, particularly if you live in a region like ours.

So this next section is an overview of the fiscal year 26-27 proposed budget.

I'll start with an overview of the all funds budget.

So as you can see for 206-27, we're proposing a balanced $6.7 billion budget.

That's an increase of about $570 million from the current fiscal year, and the budget supports a workforce of about 10,400 full-time equivalent positions.

We did close a maintenance of effort funding gap.

It was actually the original initial gap was 185 million.

We closed half of that gap with savings tied to a reduction in retirement rates as a result of the board making a prepayment to our retirement system.

So I'll talk a little bit more about that later.

That left a remaining gap of 91.4 million for us to close with the agencies and departments.

So this slide shows the proportion of the $4.3 billion dollar general fund to all other funds.

So of the $6.7 billion, all funds, 64% is the general fund.

And then this is a look at the spending authority or appropriation by fund.

On the next slide, this is our spending authority by major object or service category.

In the all funds version of this pie chart, I'll also show you the general fund version later in this presentation.

You can see that services and supplies is actually the largest category when we're looking at the all funds budget, followed by salaries and employee benefits at 27%.

Services and supplies technically include CBO contracts, but we like to separate the investment in CBO contracts because it is so significant.

So as you can see, we uh in the develop or in the 2627 budget, we have over 1.2 billion invested in our contracts with community-based providers.

This is a look at the appropriation by program in the all funds budget.

The percentages shift a little bit in the general fund version.

But as you can see, our major investments are still amongst the four major programs: health, public protection, public assistance, and general government.

And then this next slide is the available financing by source in the all funds budget.

It's a little bit more clear in the general fund version, but you can see you know how reliant we are on state aid in particular.

Federal aid is also a huge financing source in the all funds budget.

Part of the charges for services wedge that you see at the bottom of the pie chart also includes federal revenue.

So I'll talk a little bit more about that when you see the general fund version of this pie chart.

So moving on to the general fund, it's $4.3 billion in the proposed budget.

So you can see it's actually quite flat on a percentage basis from the current fiscal year 11.

It's an $11.4 million increase in appropriation in revenue.

Part of that again is due to the savings we were able to achieve as a result of prepaying some of our pension liabilities.

So here's a look at uh the net county cost reduction.

So you can see half, we were able to close half the gap with the uh one-time retirement rate reductions that amounted to savings of 93.4 million.

And then we worked with agencies and departments to come up with the remainder of the balancing strategies of that of the remaining balancing strategies.

On the next slide, you can see about half came from additional one-time strategies, and the other half came from ongoing strategies.

So the challenge here is that because we were so reliant on one-time strategies to balance this budget.

Um, we are not adequately addressing the county's structural funding gap.

Moving on to the next slide.

Uh, this is our appropriation by major object in the general fund.

So you can see in this version, uh, the percentages are a little bit higher in terms of our investment and salaries and employee benefits.

You can see more prominently the proportion of the general fund that is supporting CBO contracts.

The difference between the number that you're seeing here and the 1.2 billion that you're seeing in the previous slide is the addition of measure W.

And then this is our appropriation by program in the general fund.

Again, if you were to total up our four major programs and make up over 90% of the spending authority in the general fund.

The next slide is a summary of our community-based organization contracts by program.

Uh, these numbers do include the investment from Measure W.

So you can see $8.7 million in contracts in general government and health.

Without AHS, it's $905 million.

There's an additional about $140 million that goes to the Alameda Health System, $141 million in public assistance, and then $61.5 million in public protection for that total of 1.25 billion.

And then here's just a high level look at key services and initiatives represented in the proposed budget.

Mental health is our largest investment by program.

There's more than 800 million invested in behavioral health, 139 million for contracts with AHS, 288 million in the Home Together Fund for Housing and Homelessness, 73 million to support Health Pack, about 70 million for road improvement projects in the unincorporated area, 39 million in the Essential County Services Fund that I'll go into more detail in future slides.

About 37 million in AB 109 CBO contracts administered by probation as well as other departments, and 9 million in the emergency food and shelter services CBO contracts, and finally 10 million for countywide board initiatives by way of vision 2036, enhancing vision 2036 and the East County Infrastructure Improvement Fund.

So again, just to stress the point, 65% of our general fund budget is from state and federal sources, and all other revenue makes up about $1.5 billion or $35% of the general fund.

If we look at the available financing by source, you can see more prominently here our reliance on state and federal revenue.

This pie chart includes our other local sales taxes, measure A and Measure C, the portions that the county keeps.

Measure W is outside of the general fund, so you don't see Measure W on this version of the pie chart.

In this pie chart, we are including Measure W because Measure W is discretionary revenue.

You can see that our program revenue makes up the vast majority of revenue in this view of the budget.

Um of our revenue, which only leaves 36% that the county has in the more flexible discretionary revenue.

In terms of our discretionary revenue by source, you can see how important property taxes.

Actually, both the green section and the blue sections are property tax-based revenues.

So vehicle license fee ERAF is also projected based on property tax projections.

You can see the addition of Measure W there.

Moving on to the next section, which is unincorporated area highlights.

So as I mentioned earlier, we we have over the last couple of years made a number of enhancements to the unincorporated area special budget.

I'll summarize some of that in the next few slides.

So this next slide is a high-level unincorporated budget at a glance view.

So you can see the appropriations by agency and department for those departments that are providing municipal services in the unincorporated areas, as well as so that is the top left chart there.

And then on the right, you can see the appropriations by object.

So key investments in the unincorporated areas.

You heard me say earlier about 70 million for road improvement, 65 million for fire protection and emergency response, about 37 million for sheriff's patrol services, 9 million for flood control infrastructure, 7 million to operate community libraries, and 5 million for housing and community development programs.

I'll talk a little bit about Measure W as well as investments in the unincorporated areas in the next few slides.

So this is a high level look of all of Measure W.

So 80% of Measure W is allocated to the Home Together Fund for housing and homelessness, and 20% is allocated to the Essential Services Fund, which is bold here because this is of relevance to the unincorporated area budget.

So these are highlights of the proposed and approved investments within the Essential County Services Fund, totaling about $151 million.

The purpose of this fund is to advance equity, resilience, and inclusive prosperity across the county with a focus on supporting unincorporated communities and disadvantaged populations.

So you can see the funding is distributed across six key investment areas, 24 million for improvements and the unincorporated, supporting neighborhood improvements, economic development, local services and community-driven projects, $25 million for food security initiatives, $27 million for affordable housing on county owned properties, about $7 million for older adults and senior services, $53 million to address federal and state policy, anticipated budget impacts to protect critical safety net services and vulnerable populations, and about $15 million for critical county infrastructure to support modernization and repairs to facilities that deliver essential public services.

This is a look at the Measure W Essential County Service Fund proposed investments.

You can see the proportion that is proposed for countywide services and the proportion in blue that's dedicated to the unincorporated areas.

So in total, between programmatic investments, you can see the majority of the proposed capital investments are to benefit the unincorporated area, 71% or $10 million.

But the composite there looking at all of what's proposed over the next two years out of Measure W Essential County Service Fund, about 30% of that is proposed to benefit the unincorporated area.

The next couple of sides are an enhancement that I want to highlight that is included in the new budget document.

So because we have were able to track this information, the social services agency is able to track this information by zip code now.

We were able to produce more specific metrics on this next slide in terms of monthly benefit enrollments.

So this is all information you can find online on the social services website.

You can see the total caseload across all programs in terms of uptake in unincorporated is about 52,000 each month.

You can see the largest zip code concentration is serving Ashland, Cheryland, Hayward, Hayward Acres, Fairview, and San Lorenzo.

And the total countywide share of enrollment is 11.3%, with folks participating in five key assistance programs.

So looking ahead, we do have a number of funding challenges as we continue to consider the 26-27 budget.

So ongoing fiscal pressures, such as service costs, or ongoing fiscal pressures in terms of our service costs, continuing to outpace revenue growth, health care costs continuing to rise, federal and state policy changes, increasing administrative and program costs, public safety departments are continuing to face inflationary pressures and implementation costs with new mandates, and additionally, housing, homelessness infrastructure, and capital improvement needs continue to exceed available funding resources.

The county continues to maintain triple A credit ratings from the major credit rating agencies reflecting strong financial management and fiscal stewardship.

The proposed budget also continues investments in infrastructure, deferred maintenance and pension liability reduction.

The five-year capital improvement plan will be presented to the board after the adoption of the budget.

But it does outline about uh over $2.5 billion in expenses.

$2.1 billion of revenue has been identified.

This uh gap figure is actually a little bit outdated.

The gap is now uh larger than 600 million at this point, so we'll have to update that in our documents moving forward.

Um last year the county recently made a uh uh what I had referred to earlier in terms of the retirement savings was in part because the county had made an additional investment or prepayment to a SERA that helped us balance our budget.

Uh and then uh looking forward, we still have these pending factors that all potentially influence um adjustments that we may have to make mid-year with the budget or future budgets.

Uh so it's important that we continue to maintain strong reserves and disciplined fiscal management as we navigate the challenges that you can see here on this slide.

Um, so notably inflationary pressures, workforce challenges, disaster recovery needs, and uncertainty at the state and federal level, in addition to rising liability uh and insurance costs continuing to put our budget at risk.

Um, lastly, this is a look at the board's adopted strategic vision.

The development of the budget is guided by this vision, as was the process to balance the budget.

And I'll pause there for any questions.

All right, thank you for the very um enlightening and thorough presentation on the proposed 20 26-2027 um budget.

And as I mentioned yesterday at the um the board hearing on the budget, I do think it's there's been remarkable progress in trying to provide more transparency and understanding around the unincorporated area.

Um, so hopefully.

I appreciate that.

So hopefully that uh will be recognized by um the populace that represent that live here in the unincorporated area.

So with that, what I'm gonna do is just have the clerk call uh the speakers and we'll see if there are any questions.

Why don't you sit over here?

Keep me company.

So if there are questions, you'll be available to answer them if necessary.

Thank you.

Um good afternoon.

My name is Ladidoa Salazar.

I am uh with my Eden Voice.

We're a grassroot membership-based organization.

Um, my Eden Voice helped launched uh the budget justice coalition along with Eden Church, residents for a better community, and other grassroots and community organizations, and um, because we believe that residents deserve a meaningful voice in how public resources are invested in our communities.

We appreciate the efforts of the CAO's office.

Um they have improved the transparency and provided additional information uh on the budget.

Those improvements matter, and we are grateful for your partnership.

Um at the same time, our request is that the community engage around the budget more.

Uh, it goes beyond presenting a finalized budget and towards true two-way dialogue.

Residents of the unincorporated area should have opportunities to provide input earlier in the process and help shape the budget priorities before decisions are made.

We would also like to see additional information, including uh future budget materials, particularly greater context about economic demographic trends in the unincorporated communities and clear explanations on how budget decisions impact our neighborhoods.

For communities that are historically have ex historically experienced disinvestment and limited representation, transparency is important, but participation is essential.

We look forward to continuing to work with the county to ensure the residents are both informed and have the opportunity to shape the futures of their own communities.

Thank you.

Anna Raschizo.

Hi, good evening.

I'm Anaras Kiza with resources for community development.

And I just wanted to thank you for um coming this evening and presenting on this issue.

And for all the work that you have done to add additional context and information to the information about the budget that's available to the public.

Um we know that when this information is available, uh we use it, right?

Um I was excited to see the SSA data available in today's presentation.

I actually used that data today for a philanthropic funding application that would serve the unincorporated community and leverage federal dollars.

So just all the information that we can get is used and able to be leveraged.

So thank you for that.

Um and thank you to SSA for adding that.

I know they've had that dashboard for years.

Um yeah, and then finally, I just wanted to note that in the future we would love to have this conversation in the fall.

This is a crazy week to be here focused on this issue and uh very busy week for the county, and we would love to have this conversation in the fall when there's a little bit more time to pause and reflect and focus and really digest the information.

So thank you.

Diane, you're on the line.

You have two minutes.

Thank you for the presentation.

I it seems some version of it too at the Mac meetings, but uh it's scary how much money, how much aid we get from the state and federal um governments.

And I'm just curious, is some of that to offset required programs by by the state or the federal government, as opposed to us just needing it for our own needs.

I'm assuming that some of that's because we're offsetting some of what they're required of us.

Just wondering if you can confirm that.

Thank you.

Lana, you're on the line.

You have two minutes.

Hi, thank you.

Um, to piggyback on Diane's comment a little bit.

I'd be really interested to see the breakout for San Lorenzo.

My name is Lana Cross, I'm a San Lorenzo homeowner here, born and raised in San Lorenzo, recently moved back, and I'm a homeowner and just really distraught by the state of this community.

Um lovely to see Castro Valley flourishing, and I would love to see San Lorenzo do something similar.

So I'm just trying to get more involved.

I know within the budget I have to dig a little deeper, but if there were a breakout to see how funds are spent specifically in each area, it would be fantastic for me to better understand how those um resources are being allocated.

Thank you.

No other speakers on item one.

Okay, so Melan, can you um respond, react um to some of the comments and or questions that came up?

Uh now I think one speaker actually said Cash Valley is flourishing.

You don't have to react to that, but I think I heard that correct.

Yeah.

It gives me a lot of a lot of pleasure.

But I know we gotta get San Lorenzo to the same place as well in the rest of the incorporate area, but at least one part of the incorporate area is doing well.

Uh so to the first question that I heard in terms of our our state, our reliance on state and federal sources.

Um, what I'll say is that uh the vast majority of those dollars do support our mandates, um so they they are for mandated services.

The other thing that I'll say is um the level of service that we are providing is not necessarily mandated.

And so what is often happening is we are also using our discretionary revenue uh to support our the provision of our mandated services.

So not only are the state and federal dollars uh restricted in terms of their use, but we are also using some of our discretionary dollars to support our mandated services.

Um the question about how funds are spent in each area is uh is tricky.

Um we don't typically track um because the county services uh particularly the safety net services are uh provided on a regional basis.

It's very difficult to capture numbers tied to investments in specific geographic areas.

So sometimes you'll hear us say like we don't do return to source, we don't track how much revenue is generated in a particular um area and then attempt to uh provide services at the level that the revenue is generated, because most of our procurements uh particular again, particularly when it comes to safety net services are need-based.

Um so that's trickier to capture.

We have we have thought about this question in terms of how we can enhance the level of information that we provide in the unincorporated services budget, um, and have tried to work with um not only the departments that are providing the municipal services that have traditionally been represented in this section of the budget, but also try and capture information from health and service health and social services in a way that is um helpful.

So whether it's our investments historically and planned for capital or programs, um, we are working on trying to provide more information on those things.

Anything else?

Melanie.

What about I think there's a question about the the community's engagement earlier on?

Is there anything that you could respond to around that?

Sure, sure.

Um, so I heard a couple of themes, um, you know, increased community engagement and an opportunity for earlier input, as well as I think we may have heard this request in a previous, maybe one of the Mac meetings, just um, you know, desire for more information on um economic and demographic trends.

Um the CAO can certainly work with uh our agencies and departments to think about what a process for community engagement can look like.

Our budget process is an open process.

Um it happens year-round formally, you know, it tends to begin with the board's adoption of the budget policy in December.

Um, but there are opportunities for engagement.

Um, you know, I think our departments welcome the engagement year-round, even after the adoption of the budget.

So what I'll say is that what the board is approving is a level of spending authority by department, um, it is not a line item budget.

And so your feedback can still influence the provision of services by the departments that are providing those municipal services.

So the feedback is always valuable, irrespective of where we are in the process of developing the budget.

Um, there is a unincorporated uh area representative on the budget work group as well who uh has attended a couple of meetings, uh attended a couple of the budget work group meetings.

Um she happens to be a Mac member as well.

Um so there, you know, uh we have both opportunities for formal engagement, but we can work with the agencies and departments to think about uh additional opportunities for community engagement beyond the the public budget meetings that we that we already have.

Um Supervisor Miley also had asked us to engage much more deeply um in the unincorporated area this year, and so we did a road show with all the Macs, see some familiar faces in the room.

Um so you know we're happy to continue providing additional touch points to this point of like doing that earlier, you know.

Like I said, that that can always happen.

We can talk with agencies and departments to uh envision you know how we could operationalize more of that.

Okay, thanks.

And let me just see if I can make a few comments uh in no particular order.

In terms of the engagement, yes, I know we heard from the budget justice uh coalition um more than a year ago, and there's been a lot of um desire around um engagement and participation, and that's one reason why uh in order to ensure that everyone would have an opportunity to participate.

We use the MACs as that arm of the county to ensure that anyone, regardless of their involvement with a particular group or non-involvement or whatever their persuasion might be, could um come to a MAC meeting and uh hear the budget or provide information around the budget and be engaged in that process in a transparent way because the MACs are arms of the county, they are the municipal advisory councils for the unincorporated area.

Uh some of you know, you know, historically when we only had Castor Valley, you know, it was a problem.

But we've created Fairview, the Eden Area MAC, the Cash Valley Mac.

There's always been the SNOL MAC per se.

So those bodies are brown-acted bodies.

Their agendas are are posted.

Anyone from the public can participate, and that gives that kind of levels the playing field so that everyone can be engaged.

And if a group or groups or whoever it might be have particular positions, they can present those positions to those official bodies.

You know, the corporate area, as folks know, uh, something that we um surface through the Edener livability process could be the fourth largest city in the county for city.

So there's roughly a hundred and fifty thousand people, let's say in the uncorporate area, and it'd be virtually challenging for the county administrators' office to engage Hilter, Helter Skelter.

So that's why I think it's more appropriate to go through the official arms of the county in the unincorporated area to um provide input.

The community is always welcome to you know speak to my office and supervisor TAM's office and an East County Supervisor Um Halbert's office and our staffs.

We do have these meetings as well, an incorporated services meetings.

So we do provide those opportunities, and as Melanie pointed out, there's a representative on the budget committee for the county, which is composed of a lot of different stakeholders.

The present representative, I believe it's Taylor, lives in San Lorenzo and is on the Eden area Mac, and we're not relying on Taylor to represent the entire incorporate area, but as Melly pointed out, we're just trying to provide different touch points because Taylor can also provide a message of uh what it is the um unincorporated area might be interested in, and then, as I said, by engaging our offices, it's it's through that process, too, that we've been able to provide additional resources in the unincorporated area uh during COVID, um, uh during uh Measure W, uh, the the voices of the community presenting what it is they'd like to have done.

Even before COVID, I remember some folks in the community saying we needed more co-enforcement officers, for example, and we needed them in Cherry Land.

And at that point, we were able to deliver on that because we had redevelopment monies.

You know, we no longer have redevelopment monies, but so I'm just saying we want to have multiple multiple touch points because I don't think there's any um panacea or universal way of of going about the engagement, but we want to ensure transparency and we want to ensure uh multiple opportunities for engagement and voices to be heard, as opposed to folks having to just you know come to 1221 Oak Street, the county administrators.

I mean the the county administration office, the fifth floor and the board chambers and speak.

And even presently, because we're now doing meetings virtually, people have an opportunity to participate virtually, whereas in the past, prior to the pandemic, virtual participation was unheard of.

You had to actually come there and be physically present to be engaged.

So once again, we're constantly trying to improve, we're not stuck on any uh any one thing, but I do want to say that we're trying to ensure that there are multiple ways of engagement.

Then, in addition, as Melly pointed out, counties are different than cities.

Cities can raise money, they can do certain things that counties can't do.

Counties are arms of the state, and we haven't we don't have the same flexibility that cities might have.

But in the city of Oakland, they have parking meters, and guess what?

They're now charging people to park on Sundays.

I'm using that as an example because other jurisdictions are considering that too.

And by having parking meters and also charging, let's say on Sunday, even before that, parking meters raise a lot of money.

Let me tell you that.

We don't have that.

It's not to say we couldn't, but we don't, because I think that's something the community wouldn't be comfortable with, but that would be another way of raising additional uh revenue.

But there are other things too that cities have that are much more robust than counties.

And it was, I'm not going to lay the blame on anyone, but the point is because the county allowed for let's say Bayfair to be annexed into the city of San Landro, we lost a lot of sales tax there.

Whereas before, when Bayfair was in the unincorporated area, we received a lot of that sales tax.

Um, that's why I've had a policy since I've been the supervisor that I don't allow for any annexations.

Uh I don't allow cities to just cherry pick the best parts of the unincorporated area and leave the counties with the challenging parts because if we're gonna have the challenging parts, we also need the revenue to help us address those challenges as well.

I've seen over the course of time a lot of progress in the unincorporated area.

This is not the same unincorporated area today as it was, let's say, in the 1990s or 1980s.

I think the county was much more derelict in its planning and how it treated the unincorporated area.

I really honestly believe that over the last 20 or more years we've been much more responsive.

But it's always an issue of what are you doing for us lately in terms of being responsive.

That's why we don't want to just sit back and say things are great.

We want to continue to try to improve.

That's why we have more community-based organizations out here, much many, many more doing things than we've had 20 years ago.

We have more infrastructure out here than we had 20 years ago.

You know, we built a new fire station insuring land a long time, you know, about 12 years ago.

We're building new fire stations in that incorporated area because of measure um measure X, you know, measure it's X or Z.

X, X, Measure X, though, sometimes I forget which measure.

Um so there's more infrastructure coming along as well.

So I just point those out as some examples, how there's been progress, but we never want to just sit back and say, hey, we've reached the promised land, everything's great, there's no more improvement.

So I appreciate the community, and that's not just one segment of the community, that's a community at large, constantly pushing for more and more and more improvements and not being uh static and just accepting uh the status quo because if we accept the status quo, then we're just staying static.

We're not we're not advancing and growing and progressing.

So I would say uh the budget presentation we received today from where we were two years ago.

This is a remarkable improvement, but we still have more we've got to do, and I think the county administrators' office recognizes that, and I know Supervisor Tan and I recognize that as well, and we'll keep working with all of you to try to get more resources out here to try to provide more transparency to try to ensure as effective engagement as possible, and to try to continue to deliver on uh services.

Um the last thing, too, is um, you know, we have looked at through LAFCO and other mechanisms, you know, how we can improve governance in the unincorporated area.

You know, last month we heard a presentation on the Office of Unincorporated Services.

You know, we're still working on a proposal around that.

It might not be a physical office, but we are looking at how we can improve on governance, and we've done improvements on governance over the course of time as well, but we're still looking at how what more what more we can do.

And I know uh Castro Valley, you know, is even exploring once again whether or not they want to incorporate um and you know be their own city because there are a lot of uh cities in the uh Alameda County that are smaller than Castro Valley in terms of population, um, and that'll be up to the citizens of Castro Valley to decide if they want to incorporate.

I mean, there's upside to incorporating and there's downsides, but one upside is they have more control, local control over their own destiny as opposed to relying on the county, and then as Melly pointed out in her presentations, cities can do more than counties can do.

So I think those are some of my comments on this.

Now, in terms of uh the next steps and other county board of supervisors will be voting to adopt the budget for fiscal year 26-27 tomorrow at four o'clock, and then what happens next, Melanie, both on a big scale and on you know, and for the unincorporated area.

What can we be looking forward to?

So, because so much of the county's budget is reliant on state and federal revenue.

We're you know, we're still gonna be monitoring changes that could require adjustments to the budget that the board plans to adopt tomorrow.

Um, so that you know, there's still more of that.

It's you know, like I said earlier, and like you heard the county administrator say this week, the budget process is year-round.

Um, the board in its regular meetings every Tuesday has always has items that adjust the budget.

So it's an ongoing process.

Um, all of the pending factors that you heard me talk about, those are things that we're gonna continue to monitor and keep track of for potential impacts to the budget.

Um, a lot happens by way of the state budget and the trailer bills that you know we uh look at closely.

So we work closely with our advocates at the state and federal level to pay attention to changes that are happening that can impact us locally.

Um for the unincorporated area.

Part of what um we could uh look at doing with the agencies and departments is think about what other uh enhancements we could potentially make to the unincorporated special budget section of the document uh before we publish the final version of the book.

So I think we could continue to make improvements to capture some of the investments.

I think um uh both your office and supervisors TAM's office had previously uh expressed an interest in us capturing more information on our historic investments in the unincorporated area.

So for example, capital investments over um you know the tenure horizon or you know significant programmatic investments.

Um those are things that you know we can partner with the agencies and departments on to better capture some of that history in the budget document.

And in terms of coming back either here or to the MACs, um do you have a sense of any timing around that or any scheduling of that?

Sure.

I know some of the Macs had expressed interest in having uh additional or follow-up budget presentations, happy to do that and you know, coordinate with the members on when they would like us to return.

Um so always willing to come back.

Um the you know, the uh we didn't necessarily hear that from all of them, but you know, for the ones that that have invited us to return, you know, happy to come back and do a follow-up presentation.

I know I know uh a couple of them I think had expressed, and I would imagine they're all interested in um, you know, to the extent that there is information available that is relevant to those geographic areas, we can try and compile that.

Um the county librarian I think did a good job of looking up some of the history and kind of bringing those relevant talking points to each of those uh Mac meetings.

So we'll try to we could try to look at um doing a little bit more of that.

Again, it's we're a little we're somewhat limited in how we capture that information, particularly for services that are provided on a regional basis.

Um sometimes procurements are done uh on like a north county, south and east county basis, but not necessarily like specific to San Lorenzo or you know Castro Valley, so on and so forth.

So to the extent that we have that information available, we can try to compile it and uh come back with it.

Yeah, so I would encourage uh people uh the commun the communities if I think the reason we're having this here today and we've had mailing out in the past, uh, it's because of uh the budget justice coalition for example requesting this type of ongoing involvement and engagement and um transparency and communication.

So if that it's something that is still desirable, we would definitely want to hear from folks about that, my office and supervisor Tam's office, so that we can make sure this or other um efforts similar to this are scheduled for the unincorporated services meeting at appropriate times, as well as with the MACs.

Um, you know, my office, uh, through my chief of staff, basically uh Tona Hinninger.

She works with uh three of the MACs, Castro Valley, the Eden Mac and the Fairview Mac, um, my staff, uh supporter with that uh to work with the chairs on the agendas for the MACs.

So I would I would like to see at least a check-in with the Mac, if you know at least once a year, if not more often, if a Mac desires that, but at least once a year on on the budget.

Um, but like you said, some MACs might want more engagement than others.

So I just think minimally here, and hopefully uh to each of the MACs at least one time, but it depends on uh the level of of uh community um uh engagement that they that they desire through those um you know through this mechanism as well as to through the Macs.

And then any individual conversations uh folks want to have with our offices, um, please uh let us know.

Okay.

So I think, I think that's everything on this item.

It's an informational item.

So hopefully we've covered this pretty thoroughly.

So we'll go to item two.

Once again, this is an information item as well.

Uh Alamane County Sheriff's Office Real Time Information Center.

Good evening, Supervisor Miley.

How are you?

Um previously I have attended the board on numerous occasions and uh spoke specifically uh about these individual items.

Um the Alameda County Sheriff's Office will be um putting forward a collective contract uh at the next board meeting on the 30th.

And so we wanted to present what those items are uh ahead of time.

Uh for those who do not know, the Alameda County Sheriff's Office has spent the last three years heavily investing in a real-time information center.

Um, the purpose and goal of that uh Arctic is what we refer to it as, is to provide timely information uh to our first responders and outside agency uh partners through the use of technology and increasing and enhancing public safety.

Uh Alameda County Sheriff's Office is hyper focused and couldn't agree more with the board's uh mission uh to achieve a crime-free Alameda County, and the Arctic is uh a main component in accomplishing uh that objective.

Um we have been uh very transparent from the beginning of starting this.

Uh we are committed to transparency, uh accountability, and most importantly, uh we have attended all of the MAC meetings uh already uh repeatedly, and uh community collaboration and input is uh one of the things that we value.

Uh this is currently what our real-time information center looks like.

Um it uh is not uh super fancy, but it has uh a lot of functionality uh within it, um, and we have some core components uh of the Arctic that we're gonna discuss today.

Well, so as I had mentioned, it took about three years to uh put all of this together procurement of different uh technology, software, and uh hardware, um, primary primary components of the Arctic uh are um provided by contracts through uh Flock Safety Group.

So uh we're currently uh requesting the board's approval.

Uh we know the board has requested that the sheriff's office um put the RTC technology, specifically uh drones, license plate readers, and uh our penciled zoom cameras out to a RFP, uh request for proposal bid.

Uh, in order to do that, uh, because that is a time consuming process.

Uh we are uh working on that.

However, uh we need to continue our current services so that way we do not lose um our ability to provide public safety services to the unincorporated area.

To be very clear, this is only affects the unincorporated area of Alameda County.

We are not asking for services for anything other than unincorporated.

Uh, this contract also does not increase any uh additional equipment or services uh or make any changes to it, just keeps the status quo for lack of a better term.

It is a bridge while we craft the RFP uh at the board's discretion or desire.

Uh the main components uh that we are asking for uh that we currently have in place are the automated license plate readers, our Pantilt Zoom Condor cameras, and our Aerodome drone first responder program.

These all feed into one flock OS software platform, and they all have complete compatibility and work together, they're all integrated.

I want to continue to point out that the Sheriff's Office is not the only agency in Alameda County that utilizes this technology.

In fact, all 14 other agencies, including the highway patrol as well and East Bay Regional Park Police, utilize flock safety license plate readers.

And this technology works, statistically proven, we have seen a significant decrease in crime, and it's because these systems talk to each other.

They collaborate and share locally within in the county.

Some of the concerns we've heard throughout our scoping sessions, and as we continue to engage with the community, have been their concerns related to enforcement related to immigration, gender affirming care, as well as this technology potentially being misused for some sort of intimidation or harassment related to you know sex, race, religion.

I can assure you that that is not only against the law, it is against policy, and anyone that would ever use this technology for such would be uh disciplined and face criminal and legal penalties.

The sheriff's office does not use this technology for any sort of ICE immigration or customs-related sharing.

We do not share with the federal government.

We do not share with any outside agencies out of the state of California, and we do not have the national lookup tool activated.

We have created a transparency portal, which is available on the Sheriff's Office website.

You scan this QR code, it'll take you to the transparency portal.

It has two types of information on there.

The first one is automated license plate reader data, our automated license plate reader policy, as well as data and statistics related to our drone first responder program and flights related to the drones.

The second part that we're looking for in this contract is related to our Pantil Zoom cameras.

These are strategically positioned throughout the unincorporated area.

They are pointed in directions that are uh viewable to anybody in the public.

The operators within the Arctic are not specifically looking at these cameras unless it is in response to some sort of call for service, at which point then these cameras provide our officers with situational awareness prior to their arrival.

This allows us to make better decisions, hopefully reduce uses of force, help with de escalation, and make better officer safety choices, keeping our deputies safe.

The third part of this is our drone first responder program.

We affectionately call it Raven.

The drone has been instrumental in uh providing real-time information.

Our drone frequently arrives on scene about half the time first before any patrol resources, giving us a live view of what's going on, and again helping us just like the Pantil Zoom cameras make better decisions, keep not only the residents but our officers safe.

Interesting statistic.

This is in January through June 12th.

Uh, we've mitigated 27 calls for service where patrol resource resources were not required to even respond.

Low-level calls for service, such as illegally parked vehicles or calls for service related to people walking in the roadway.

We've been able to use the drone.

Um we've also used this drone to help locate missing persons, respond to vehicle accidents, vegetation fires, it's a public safety tool.

Um, so uh about 10% of our calls for service.

We've been able to clear uh with the drone.

All this data feeds into a Flock OS platform where the operators within the Arctic are able to see not only the license plate reader data, they're able to see the pan-tilt zoom cameras, and then they're also able to see the drone feeds.

Because all of these things integrate and work together, we're not having to switch between multiple screens and multiple vendor platforms.

It makes it very effective and easy to use and provides a lot quicker portions of information coming in in order for us to really make split-second decisions and give critical information to the deputies that are responding in the field.

Related to the integrations, for example, we get a license plate reader hit for missing person that pops up on our screen and immediately populates also on the drone screen.

With a click of a button, we can launch the drone and be up in the air with uh in approximately 10 seconds or less, depending on what the weather is.

And the drone is responding at 51 miles an hour.

We're then able to use our pan-tilt zoom cameras as one operator is flying the drone looking for the vehicle.

The other one is using the pan-tilt zoom cameras in the area trying to locate the car.

That in conjunction with additional license plate reader hits all works together.

Whoever locates the car first, whether it happens to be the pan-tilt zoom camera or the drone, then we continue to follow that car until we could direct deputies to that and safely um find that person who's in that car that's that's missing.

This is uh what it looks like on the drone screen, the license reader uh alerts come up.

The board is previously approved, and we're currently utilizing a software called prepared 911, which is not a flock product, but it also integrates along with uh Mark 43, which is our uh computer-aided dispatch, and that as well integrates into Flock.

So we've invested heavily in these systems working together.

So the 911 calls come in, the computer-aided dispatch calls come in with the click of a button, we can immediately launch the drone.

Sometimes before the calls ever even been dispatched by the dispatcher to the deputies, we're overhead with the drone.

If anyone ever goes outside, looks up and sees a drone flying above their house, we want them to feel comfortable that we're utilizing this technology appropriately.

They can go on the website, it shows the approximate address of where we were responded to, what we were responding to, a type of call for service, and it shows the flight path of the drone.

Part of this contract also includes our uh continued partnership with our local businesses.

Um we really need to continue this mission.

We have uh some challenges uh related to this with uh actually physically going out and getting the word out, and we're we're actively working on that, and it's it's it's working.

Uh, this program brings our local businesses' uh existing camera systems into the Arctic via live feeds.

The businesses share what cameras they want to share.

Um, the sheriff's office has no ability to move their cameras around, access recordings or anything like that.

Uh, it's just a live feed, but it's another piece of uh the puzzle.

When we get a 911 call, we're able to access these cameras and and hopefully get a better idea of what's going on and provide our deputies with better situational awareness as they respond.

Um, since I was at the board last, we had some uh very substantial case studies.

Um we had some unfortunate child sex related uh cases, some murders that had happened, some carjackings that had happened, and so I thought it was important because it's only been two months.

Uh, we're gonna present these on the 30th as well to talk about in this very short amount of of time what this technology has done.

Um, so just since we were at the board uh previously, these three uh events have happened, March and 26th, we received a call of attempted kidnapping at a local market in San Landro, unincorporated area.

A stranger solicited a minor to give him oral sex.

Unfortunately, the suspect fled the scene before we arrived, but uh bystanders were able to provide a very generic description of the vehicle and the suspect.

We did locate video surveillance from the store, but I want to point out that that video surveillance was not good enough to identify an individual or to identify a license plate on that car.

Without the flock automated license plate readers, we would not have been able to identify this vehicle.

But fortunately, the board approved this, and we do have these, and so we were able to utilize that technology to locate the suspect vehicle and ultimately take them into custody, preventing other children from being victimized by this uh individual.

Uh note on this: this individual was this isn't his first time he's done this.

He's got uh prior arrests for unlawful sexual contact with uh with minors.

So this individual needed to be taken off the streets and was an imminent threat to public safety.

In June, uh, just this last month, uh, we had a robbery and a shooting that occurred in Castro Valley.

Unfortunately, the victim in this case was 14 years old.

Thankfully, he survived his injuries.

Uh witnesses and victims described a suspect vehicle, but yet again, we had no video surveillance and we had uh little to go on.

Investigators utilized the flock automated license plate readers in combination with the pan-tilt zoom cameras and were able to narrow down one car and one car only that fit the description in the area.

We were then able to get a license plate and we were able to uh do a search of the area and find that car.

Uh we later arrested uh an individual related to the shooting and then conducted a follow-up search warrant, which uh yielded evidence of the crime.

Yet again, this shooting likely does not get solved without this technology.

This is just last month.

Unfortunately, the Alameda County uh Alco Park Garage was recently burglarized on June 8th.

Suspects broke into the garage, they stole numerous tools as well as several vehicles belonging to the county.

Uh one of those happened to be a fully equipped police car.

Yet again, flock license plate readers were instrumental in the recovery of these vehicles, and we had recovered every single stolen car in less than 12 hours.

We did utilize air support in conjunction with the automated license plate readers.

Uh, during this, one person was taken into custody.

Um this is record.

The amount of vehicles that were stolen without this technology, we we would not have likely recovered these vehicles in such a quick time.

Um, there's another one that's not in here.

Uh the city of Oakland had a uh a 76-year-old female about a month ago uh get in a vehicle and drive away, and she had dementia as well as Alzheimer's.

Uh we got the the be on the lookout for that vehicle.

We utilized the flock technology and the drone uh and located that car in the city of Hayward.

It then traveled into the unincorporated area.

Um she was she was driving pretty fast.

Uh our deputies were not able to catch up to her, but we were able to follow her with this technology and pass that information on to the East Bay Regional Park Police Department, and as she traveled up Redwood Road onto Skyline, they were able to stop her as she came back into the city of Oakland and bring her home safe.

Those are all within the last two months.

Just the other week, we received uh a flock automated license plate reader alert from the city of Fremont.

This individual had committed numerous auto burglaries, and the Fremont Police Department had flagged this car uh in the stolen vehicle system.

As we got an alert, we launched the drone.

The drone located the car near the Bay Fair Mall.

This allowed us to strategically set up, deploy spike strips successfully, and then attempt a traffic stop.

The vehicle didn't want to stop uh and fled at a reckless high rate of speed.

However, because we had the drone overhead, there was no need for a vehicle pursuit.

We also had spiked the tires as I had mentioned, so now it had reduced the speed, therefore reducing the risk to the public.

A short time later, the suspect uh fled from the vehicle into the Bay of Para parking lot and was apprehended, and this individual had numerous uh felony warrants for burglary as well as a ton of stolen property inside the vehicle.

These are all things that have just happened in the last two months.

The last time we were at the board specifically for automated license plate readers, um we took the board's feedback very seriously.

The board had requested us add uh several important things into the contract and SSA.

We've been working closely with county council and appreciate the collaboration uh to include the things that the board wanted.

Uh some of those are uh increased outlines uh related to restrictions on how Flock is able to share our data, um reinforcing the fact that we do not share with the federal government and preventing them uh any potential access.

Um we want Flock to immediately notify us if there ever is a breach of the data so we can act accordingly, and we want full access to their audit rights and transparency.

Um all of these things have been added to the contract in the SSA, and it clearly states that the county controls and owns our data, no one else does.

Most importantly, as I had mentioned in a previous slide, every other jurisdiction in Alameda County has this technology.

And if the board doesn't approve this, uh the red area represents the residents of unincorporated Alameda County that will be left in the dark without any automated license plate reader services and no connectivity to any of the other agencies.

I can tell you from my 20 years that criminal groups are very transient, they don't stay in one area and they're constantly moving about the Bay Area.

This camera system allows us to prevent crime from happening as we're communicating with other Arctics and other police agencies.

Uh, we certainly don't want the residents and the constituents in this area uh to feel like they're not protected.

So, what are the next steps?

Uh, if the board approves this 18-month bridge contract, uh the next steps for us will be to continue to engage with the community.

Uh, we want to attend all of the MAC meetings, uh, municipal advisory councils and gain input on uh strategies for uh the future RFP and the implementation of uh the future of the Arctic and and technology.

Uh, we certainly want their input and we continue to evaluate uh the needs.

Technology is exponentially evolving.

Uh, we want to make sure that we have the most responsible technology, but also the best technology to provide uh public safety uh and also help with investigations.

Our crime statistics show that uh this technology uh makes a significant impact.

And then as we develop this RFP, uh obviously we're gonna be working with GSA uh through their procurement rules and county council to identify uh some long-term technology solutions that meet our needs.

Uh there is always uh other vendors, and I have no doubt we will receive other RFP uh proposals as uh we move forward.

And that is all I have supervisor.

Well, thank you for the the presentation.

Very very thorough, very um informative, um, and uh very much uh appreciated.

Um before I open up for public uh speakers and comments, let me just um say a few things.

So once again, this is an information report, so the committee won't be taking any action on it.

Um that'll be at the full board next uh Tuesday the 30th.

Um, but as uh one elected official on the board of supervisors, I intend on supporting this, um, because uh one thing I often say is let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

And you've clearly demonstrated how this technology is good, and you've also demonstrated how the Sheriff's Department is taking every conceivable and known step to ensure um safety to ensure that it's not being abused, uh, and I know the sheriff's department is open to doing even more if it's brought to your attention about what more needs to be done.

Um, and folks know, you know, I'm I'm not a bit bashful about saying it.

I, you know, to me public safety is is number one, and I don't compromise when it comes to public safety.

I want our officers to be professional and discharge their duties constitutional, but in order to do that, you also need the equipment and the tools to do your job and to do it effectively and to maintain safety um for all of us.

And as was pointed out, this is just for the unincorporated area, and if we don't have an unincorporated area, then we're gonna be at a significant disadvantage.

Um I would bet every dollar I have that if we had if the general populace of the unincorporated area had to vote on this, they'd vote for this.

A majority would vote for this.

We're always gonna have people who disagree because reasonable people will disagree.

And if I didn't think the sheriff's department was doing anything it could do to ensure that this equipment is being used effectively and not being abused, and if we could also see that the equipment wasn't being effective in public safety, then I think I could be convinced, okay, maybe we shouldn't do this, but from all empirical information or logical information or rational information, to me, this I don't want to say it's a no-brainer, but it's close to a no-brainer.

But I'm always open to hearing what more community folks have to say, what more people want to uh weigh in, and if there's more we can do to ensure um uh their understanding and and ensure their their comfort level around this tool, because I I much rather have this tool in place because we have we don't have the number of deputies we need.

We're understaffed.

This tool helps, it saves time, it's utilized professionally.

Quite frankly, some of the stuff you put up here, it's it's it's fascinating, it's amazing.

Um, I think had we had this type of technology 20 years ago, some of the crimes that were committed either would not have been committed or would have been solved if we had this tool 20 years ago.

Some of the kidnapping, some of the child abuse, some of the abductions, some of the homicides, some of the retail theft, yada yada yada, I can go down the list if we had this tool in place.

I'm not one who is afraid of technology.

Uh we need to regulate it, and we need to have safeguards around it.

If we don't regulate it, we don't have safeguards, that's when it can be abused.

Um that goes with AI and everything else.

It needs to be regulated, and a lot of the regulate regulation needs to come from, you know, the the federal government, uh, the state government, uh, because there's only so much local government can do around regulation, but it needs to be regulated.

Furthermore, um, if if we when I was on the Oakland City Council back in the 1990s, I was a strong proponent of cameras in in public areas because there's no right of privacy in public areas, and I wanted to have cameras put up in public areas uh to help.

That's another tool for crime prevention.

There were only three of us on the city council that supported that.

Uh Councilmember Della Fuente, Councilmember Reed, and myself.

Had the council supported it back in the 1990s and put cameras up in high crime areas in the public right of way, I think it would have helped Oakland.

It wouldn't have been a panacea, but it would have helped.

But no, didn't want to do it, the votes weren't there.

But I've always been a supporter of the use of technology and appropriately using it where we can use it.

So I feel very comfortable in my position on this.

So I appreciate you laying this out.

Because I know it's not just not for my comfort level, and hopefully the other supervisors, when they see this, but hopefully it will convince a majority of the public, not just in the non corporate area, but throughout the county, that this is an effective tool.

But once again, this tool is everywhere in Alameda County.

And if we don't utilize it, we're not going to have it in the incorporate area.

And if we don't have it out here in the corporate area, then I feel I'm not doing my job.

Now it might be outvoted, it's happened before, unfortunately, but I hope it doesn't happen on this.

Okay.

So let's call the speakers.

Keith Barrows.

Keith Verrill's uh Stella Renzo.

Um the last time this came before the Board of Supervisors.

Um I felt this is I I called in my I called in myself uh when I was on vacation in Portugal.

It was like one thirty in the morning and I couldn't stay up to hear the rest of it, but I understand that there are a lot of people who stood up in it uh objecting uh objecting to this, and they were primarily, if not totally, people who did not live in the unincorporated area.

Um I think I think that those folks is uh those folks uh opinion should be totally disregarded.

If if that were to happen, we'd be the only area, the only jurisdiction that would not have this uh critical tool, and uh, you know, we would be we would be absorbing some of their crime from the other areas because we were come here, kind of a we'd be kind of like the the county bounty, you know, kind of the crime quicker upper or whatever it is.

Um anyway, uh it it's it's absolutely critical.

I I do consider it to be a no-brainer.

Just one quick thing I want to mention because I didn't it wasn't here for public comment.

Um just today I went speaking of crime, um, I spoke with I spoke with the uh BCA about uh about their uh I basically basically scolded them on their decision regarding the uh alcohol outlet on East 14th Street.

I want to remind them that the community was extremely displeased with uh with their unanimous decision to pull that forward, even though it was rightfully um over uh appealed and um uh rejected by the board of supervisors.

Um so anyway, I reminded them that that's what the BZA was put in place for in the uh at the beginning to replace our zoning administrator, and so that this kind of this kind of accommodation for uh applicants that should have been told no at the counter, I wouldn't have it again.

And so perhaps so Ashland and the rest of us can flourish like Castor Alley.

Dan Devini.

Uh good evening, supervisor.

My comments are gonna be very short.

Uh, I want to associate myself with everything that you just said.

Um, and I'm just gonna ask that you remember that speech and you bring it to you on Tuesday, and you be our champion, like you're often our champion uh in front of the Board of Supervisors.

All the cities have this.

We don't want to be the redheaded stepchild that doesn't have it.

Uh this is an important tool.

Um, so uh if, you know, hopefully you would you mentioned that you might be outvoted.

Don't be outvoted, be our champion.

Uh carry carry this uh uh to fruition for us.

Uh our sheriff fully so uh supports this, it's a tool that she needs.

Um, she has just crashed glass ceilings and is doing a fantastic job.

And I think she and the department deserve uh the respect.

And if there's any violations, and I'm not aware of Alameda County having violations using the system, then hold them accountable for it, as you as you mentioned.

So thank you for your comments.

Randy, Randy Wagi.

Well, everybody is speaking so well on it.

And uh Supervisor Miley, I do appreciate, like the last speaker just said that you are champion to get this happen to make this happen.

I know at the last uh Board of Supervisors meeting, I think you were instrumental in getting it done.

So hopefully uh we can get it passed.

Um I think it is a tool.

We we want to give the sheriff's department every technology and tool to keep us safe.

We don't want to be left out.

Um I think it's a great.

Like you said, uh, even if we had it a long time ago, it probably would have solved a lot of the previous crimes.

Um so many other cities have had it for years, so it I'm I'm just really happy to have it here in uh the unincorporated area.

So I'm in full support, and I I will definitely try and call in or I will try and get there on that day because I know there's so many people from out of the area that are speaking, and you know, we live here, we want it to be safe.

And how could you not, you know, with this presentation, all the case studies just in the last two months?

That that's amazing.

I mean, that's really proof right there.

Anyway, let's let's hope we can continue uh with the flock uh cameras and the technology.

Thank you so much.

Lana, we're on item two.

You have two minutes.

Oh, thank you so much.

Um wanted to just comment on the drone piece.

So I think it's super exciting to use technology, love the idea of it all.

The drone piece is something that gives me a little bit of pause.

I understand how it could be such um an effective tool, but at the same time, I'm actually here tonight to public comment on some airport concerns with the jet flyovers, and maybe I've been jaded a bit with that.

I know it's a completely separate issue.

Um, but I'd be interested to hear more about how the officer said you can actually go and track and confirm that it's that drone.

That piece I I'd want to hear a little bit more about, um, and just wanted wanted to share that.

Because because it gave me a little bit of pause, I may not be the only one, and I wouldn't want just that piece to cause an overall um great push forward for the community to get backtracked.

Thank you.

Diane, we're on item two.

You have two minutes.

Thank you.

This is Diane again from San Lorenzo.

That seems like the this came up before the board not too long ago, um, regarding that specific contract.

And the the the board of supervisors was split, if I recall correctly, and I think that it got it got uh passed or approved just because there was already existing contract that had to be paid.

But um it sounds like there might be some convincing um needed again when it's uh represented.

I guess for this new contract.

Um my feeling is just that criminals are gonna use every means that they can find to try and uh be successful at what they're doing, and for us or law enforcement to tie our hands behind our backs with by not using uh technology that is available, uh just seems kind of like Pennywise and pound foolish, I guess.

Um, especially cars going up and down Hisparian, it's like the easiest way to get out of here, right?

Go up and down Hisparian from one freeway entrance to another.

So if most of those flock cameras are are finding people on Hisparian or the main thoroughfares to get in and out of the unincorporated area, uh it seems to me that they would be very useful.

Thank you.

We have no additional speakers for item two.

So if there are no additional speakers, um, I think one of the speakers had a question.

I don't know if the Sergeant Leaf.

No, he's there.

There was a question about I think she was talking about the aerial use of the drone and maybe how it's tracked, or because I know you showed um in one of your slides how people could uh pull up in Google and monitor that, or can maybe can you speak a little bit more about the track, you know, the tracking of the drone and how the transparency works uh around that, or how the public could absolutely be more assured about that piece.

Yeah.

Um so on the Sheriff's Office transparency portal, uh, every flight that we have using the drone first responder technology, um that flight path, um, one of the integrations we talked about was with the computer aided dispatch, and that that integrates with the drone software.

And so when a call occurs, for example, stolen vehicle or missing person, and we launch the drone, it's pulling that data from the CAD software, and then it puts it on that transparency portal so anybody can log in, it's a public-facing website, uh a link on the sheriff's office website, and they can see uh at this date and time in this general area.

Now, you know, we don't put the exact address on that for privacy reasons, but they can see that we responded to a missing person or a stolen vehicle or a robbery call.

Um, and this is the the flight path that the drone took.

Um the drone has uh a decent camera on it, and sometimes people will come outside and see the drone above their house and think that we're looking straight down at them, and that couldn't be further from the case.

The drone is um being utilized from a distance to see what's going on and provide uh real-time information to the responding deputies.

So um I think it's important that that transparency portal uh it shows what we're doing, where we're going, why we're using this technology.

Um, so that's the kind of the purpose behind it.

Uh, I do want to mention also as we're responding to calls that the camera on that drone is facing the horizon.

Uh it's not looking down in anybody's backyard.

Uh not until we are arriving in the area on scene.

Do then we reposition the camera and start to look for whatever it is that we're looking for uh related to that specific call for service.

Thank you.

All right.

So I think this item will be at the Board of Supervisors June 30th.

I think it's uh a set item uh at four o'clock.

That's my uh understanding and knowledge, so the public could participate and listen and speak uh on this item either uh by attending publicly, I mean in person or um participating uh virtually.

Okay, so but as um I think one speaker said um well cup speaker said I'm I'm your your champion, but once again, I you know I can't I can't control what other supervisors do.

I'll try to be as persuasive as possible.

Because like I said, with that vote in the 1990s on cameras, there were eight of no nine of us on the city council, because at that point the mayor was still part of the city council, so three of the nine voted for cameras in high crime public areas, and I was one of the three.

Six others voted against it.

So I did the best I could, and I've been very consistent over the years.

So I'll do the best I can on this matter, but once again, I can't.

I mean, I need all of you to weigh in and try to convince um at least two other supervisors to support this, uh, recognizing the um utter important importance of it.

Um and then I think Diane was right.

Um this did get through the board on a three to two vote, so it just barely got through.

So I'm uh you know, I hope we don't have to face that dilemma uh next Tuesday that we have the votes for this, and then as another speaker pointed out, most of the people who spoke against this were not from the unincorporated area.

I mean, some people ideologically, um they they're opposed to technology, uh, they're opposed to cameras, they're opposed to this and the other.

Uh, they don't like law enforcement.

So anything that kind of raises those red flags, they automatically are not uh supportive of.

Whereas I try to look at things much more practically, logically, and um look at uh the efficacy uh around it and whether or not it's gonna be in the public good, the public interest.

Um, so we we we we will see what happens on uh Tuesday, but my vote is solid.

All right, so let's have this was a short meeting.

Let's have public comment or non-agendized items, and then we can get out of here and I can wish everybody a happy 4th of July.

I know we passed that fireworks ordinance, so I'm gonna see how effective it is.

Come July 4th.

Um, hopefully we it won't look like you know Beirut or whatever out here in the incorporate area.

It might be the case elsewhere, but hopefully we're gonna be once again um a good quality of life.

So let's have our um public speakers on non-agendized items.

Kristen Hackett.

Hi, good evening.

My name's Kristen.

I'm one of the community organizers with my Eden Voice.

Over the last six months, ERU has spoken to about 80 residents across five buildings in Ashland and Cashew Valley and learned about a new displacement pressure that's making it difficult for our families to afford and maintain housing.

84% of those residents I just mentioned are currently paying additional monthly fees for garbage, water, and sewer.

These charges historically have been included in rents, but in recent years, landlords are increasingly separating them out.

The fees show up in newer contracts and or are introduced via written notices.

The fees can be read really high and are steadily increasing across the board.

One family is paying $700 extra per month just for those fees.

Other families are paying four to five hundred um per month.

These fees are currently unregulated.

Landlords can introduce them when they want, can charge what they want, don't have to provide transparency, don't have to charge residents equally.

According to legal partners, there's really nothing that residents can do.

These are very unregulated at this time.

And we actually started to see them become very popular after statewide rent control was passed in 2019.

Um and according to the our legal partners, this is a way that landlords are attempting to circumvent rent control limitations.

Um and like I said, the fees are very high and are creating new displacement pressures and eviction pressures for tenants.

If they don't pay those fees, they can be evicted.

And the family that's getting charged 700 cannot pay those fees.

Um we have been looking into solutions.

Uh Salinas and Mountain View and Oakland and Berkeley have all figured out how to address this problem.

We'd love a chance to talk to you about this.

Uh we've also been talking to state uh to the HCD.

Um, they are looking for direction for you or waiting on that and can't move forward.

So we'd love to see this move forward in some way because a lot of neighbors are being impacted.

Thank you for your time.

Lindsay, Lindsay Lay.

Yeah, I know I'm not supposed to say anything, but yeah, I've talked with the AC ACD about this.

And quite frankly, if we pass an anti-harassment ordinance, we'll be able to address that.

So I'm just waiting for that to get to us.

That's not my that's not true, I don't think.

The anti-harassment won't address the garbage and jug fees.

Well, we can't go back and forth, but that's what I've been yep.

Good evening, Supervisor Miley, and thank you for uplifting the voices of those who are too often silent, discounted or silenced.

I'm sharing a testimony written by Candy Tasker Dill this evening.

Candy is a resident and community advocate in the unincorporated Eden area and is concerned about a new displacement pressure that is impacting renting households there, namely the introduction of new fees for garbage, water, and sewer, better known as rubs or ratio utility billing system.

Candy lives at Garden Park Apartments, a complex with over 15 units in Castor Valley.

She has lived there and worked in Castor Valley for over 20 years.

She raised her child there, is very active in the community, and has supported many community-based organizations.

Today, Candy is most concerned about this issue, the Rubs fees, as it poses to displace both her and her neighbors.

Candy was introduced to the new Rubs fees in March of this year and is being asked to pay $35 right now, but is not sure how that will fluctuate in the future.

Her fear is rooted in the fact while not all neighbors are paying.

Those who do are paying three times as much as she is, and property owners are not required to charge or disclose actual service costs to tenants.

This raises questions about fairness and equity.

Candy wanted to bring this to your attention because Rub seems to go against the Tenant Protection Act and need for rent stabilization.

Property owners are suddenly introducing new fees, causing rent insecurity.

People have had no prior issues of nuisance, rent evasion, or legal activity are simply priced out of their homes, jobs, volunteer practices, and communities.

Rubs has become the new no fault eviction and is a just cause loophole for unincorporated renters.

Candy is further concerned that these fees seem to be a new business practice, allowing property owners to increase their income on top of what they are already profiting on, and it's likely to get worse unless we get ahead of it.

To this end, Candy would like to see county supervisors pass an ordinance to ban rubs and other junk fees.

You can start by giving county staff and housing and community development staff direction to explore this issue and begin working on the ordinance tonight.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Carmelita Lopez.

Good evening, Supervisor Miley.

My name is Carmen Lopez, a former school committee liaison for the San Lorenzo Unified School District, former resident of the Ashland community, and current uh resident of the Fairview Unincorporated area.

I am a member of Empire Families in Ashon, EFA, a grassroots group from the Eden community.

In April 2025, EFA was invited to work on the plot of the land next to the Fire Station 24 at 1430 164th Avenue in San Leandro.

The land had previously been stewarded by DSL through Dig Deep Farms program.

After the program ended, the plot was left unattended for some time, allowing weeds and leftover crops to grow unchecked.

As a result, the area became untidy and posed a potential hazard to neighbors and the firehouse.

Since then, EFA members, under the guidance of Julio Contreras, Miguel and Miguelito de Leon, and Sandy Frost, along with Ash neighbors and volunteers from other communities, have worked diligently to clear and organize a space for growing healthy organic vegetables and medicinal plants.

Since the spring of 2025, La Huerta, as this plot was named by EFA, has produced over 1,200 pounds of fresh organic produce that includes corn, tomatoes, squash, pumpkins, lettuce, collard greens.

All these crops were planted and cared for with the hard work of our members and over 80 volunteers every second and fourth Saturday of the month from 9 to 4 from 9 to 12 p.m.

This space is not only used to produce food, but it is also destined for community gatherings.

We recently held a friendly convivality with Young Dreamers in Action, a youth group from Lafayette Community.

We also held group meetings and informal gatherings.

Being a space with nature offers a safe, harmonious and relaxing environment which can improve mental health that is dearly needed in these in these times of uncertainty.

We are reaching out to you for support and obtain the stewardship of this land for all the time it is not in use by the fire department.

Please consider our request since the Ashland community along with others are willing to create a productive space, addressing the need for acquiring affordable food and providing a safe and friendly environment for community gatherings.

Thank you for your attention.

Miguel, Miguel Daniel.

Good evening.

Good evening, my name is Miguel de Leon, and I'm also a member of EFA, which is Eden Families in Ashland.

Eden, excuse me, not eating.

It's uh, oh, empowering families in Ashland, sorry.

And the reason Miguel is uh explaining right now that he is here, he is here to um continue with the asking you for the support of La Huerta, which is the um land, the piece of land that they've been working on that uh Carmelita just introduced, and he wanted to ask your support.

Okay, and Megustaria uh Scuchara is porque uh practically most conversations uh members del Departamento de Bomberos.

So one of the main the main reasons um supervisor Miley that I'm here, says Miguel, is because we haven't had um the type of conversations that we would like to have with the fire the fire department with regards to um continuing to steward the land.

We have been stewarding it for a year and a half, and as Carmelita said, we have um have uh we've planted, we've cleaned, clear, cleaned, cleared, planted and harvested vegetables for the community and other activities for the community.

So one of uh Miguel is asked um supervisor Miley is that to have a conversation with you because they would really like to be able to continue stewarding La Huerta, continue um taking care of it in the way that they have been doing for the last year and a half, being able to open it up to the communities.

Many families come with their children and they learn to plant, and they've uh also seen the growth of the vegetables and they also have harvested it.

It's been a great honor and pleasure, he says, to see the families in the community, Ashland community, really uh take advantage of that opportunity to be able to enjoy the land and be in nature.

So he would like it um to ask if we could have a meeting with you and with the um chief, uh I guess the chief of the um or the person in charge of the the fire department that um has that land uh because diesel had it before and had given them the uh opportunity and gave them the um authority to be able to take care of the land.

Then we're gonna receive a las familias, invit a pesito, and travel, convivir.

So Miguel was was uh can I interpret really quickly?

So Miguel was sharing and elaborating a little bit more on also that this has given the uh them the opportunity to invite community members to do some cleaning around around where La Huerta said on the streets on the 14th, 164th, 165th, and uh they've also had the opportunity to have community members come in and get to know each other and in a family setting.

They also have plans to work with the youth from reach to be able to also have the experience of working very close to the land and learning how to plant and harvest.

Thank you.

Muchas gracias.

Sandy Frost.

Good evening, Supervisor Miley, good evening.

Um, my name is uh Sandy Frost.

I'm one of the steering members of Empowering Families in Ashland, and we wanted to um speak to you as the chair of the fire commission, and also as our local supervisor for the Ashland area.

Um, as my colleagues said, we were um kind of handed this lot next to the fire station when D Cell pulled out.

Um, we've been tending it really diligently.

Um we've made contacts with the neighbors just walking down the street, who are absolutely delighted to have this green space.

We can hand them vegetables.

Um, so I guess our ask of you, and I know you can't we can't have dialogue here, but is just to continue the conversation to try and get in front of Chief McDonald and see if we can get on a um year to year kind of a lease agreement because we understand that they're preparing to expand and remodel the fire station 24 there on 164th.

Um, but we think that in the interim, before you know things really get moving and shaking that we can stay there and form the site until such time as we can get another parcel.

Um I'm involved with the Eden Community Land Trust and we're in conversation with um HCD about acquiring properties for community owned land, basically, so the public can have more um opportunity to be in open space and and to really feel embedded in the community.

Um when I talked to the fire station representative this morning, he was offering us land um outside the area, and people in Ashland can't get there.

They just absolutely can't get there.

So we're looking for something right in the heart of Ashland.

Um, the other thing, too, is that we're involved with the food sovereignty round table that's being hosted by Supervisor Fortnoto Bass, and we have support network there with the Alameda County Community Food Bank with Stop Waste with several other partnering organizations, including my aid and voice, Padre Sunitos.

And we just need to tie all the pieces together.

And I we feel like you're a big part of this in the conversation.

So we're trying to speak with you and work something out.

Thanks for your time, sir.

Lesbia Marones.

Thank you.

Supervisor Miley.

This is a um a testimony that I will be sharing.

Um, it's a continuation of the uh the fees, the extraordinary additional water and garbage fees that many of our tenants are facing.

And this is uh from a lady who couldn't be here today.

Her name is, let me put my glasses on.

Sorry.

Her name is uh Marta, and so I can um read her testimony in first person if that's okay with you.

Um, Marta's a resident, I'm a resident of Shamore Place, an 80-unit building in Ashland District 4.

Today I present this testimony because I'm a retired senior woman with a disability, and I'm struggling to keep up with housing costs.

On top of my rent, I have to pay 200 every month for garbage and water.

I have never had to pay for this before, but now I don't now.

If I don't pay these fees, I can be evicted.

It is very difficult for my husband and me to complete the rent payment and to pay for the groceries and gas.

We have applied for rental assistance, but are not sure if relief will come.

Some of my neighbors are being pushed out because of these fees because all of a sudden the rent is 200 more than what you thought it was going to be, and it is unsustainable.

I'm getting involved in this issue because it's affecting me and my neighbors and with the current policies and budget cuts impacting everything from Medicare to after school programs, we're all struggling financially.

I would like to ask, as the authorities representing the government in the unincorporated area, yourselves, our supervisors, to help us stop these abusive charges.

We want to see the board of supervisors support the stability of our families by passing a ban on junk fees.

Thank you so much for listening to Marta's testimony.

Keith Barrows.

Just a quick thought.

Something occurred to me at the uh notice on the speaker cards, it asks for your name, your address, and your phone number.

So it's a matter of public record, and I assume it's the same at the Board of Supervisors meeting.

Um, what I was gonna say was that um when matters come before the full board that don't necessarily um affect the full county, such as this plan with the with the tools for the assurance department that just affect uh unincorporated service.

I think it would be to consider the policy of when the clerk reads the name that the name uh that they read it's it's John Smith uh from uh from Newark who's coming up to speak, or San Leandro or wherever they happen to be, so that um their comments can be taken uh possibly for what it's worth, or you know, compel or ask them to say what city they're coming from, rather than necessarily having the clerk do it for them.

Just a just a suggestion for a policy.

Lana, we're on public comment.

Thank you.

Um would like to ask Supervisor Miley, it sounds like you would be the best person to speak with about this issue.

I've reached out to Lena Tan's office, but have not been able to um connect there.

Um, I'm seeking guidance on who to connect with to make sure the San Lorenzo community is aware of the Hayward Airport plans to further develop Sky West.

The initial public comment period happened over five years ago, and it was during COVID.

Many of my neighbors that I've spoken with here in San Lorenzo are completely unaware that it's happening and it will directly impact our community here in San Lorenzo.

Um, I attended the Board of Supervisor meeting yesterday.

They had this on their agenda for the Hayward City Council.

And during that meeting, they accepted public comment.

Many of those folks were from San Lorenzo.

And I don't know how much advocacy we've had from our representatives here in Alameda County, and we can absolutely use the help.

On top of these development plans, possibly leading to increased jet traffic, which is already a huge issue over the San Lorenzo community.

So just really hoping to maybe get this on the agenda to be able to connect with you directly so that we can make sure the community is uh well informed and that we're uh getting some help.

Thank you.

Randy Waggie.

Uh I attended that meeting and so did Sandy Frost on Sky West.

And uh we really are.

We're an area of influence.

Uh so many of the houses um back up to Sky West.

So any help from Lena Tamp's office would be appreciated.

It's great.

I know she's aware of Sky West, and in fact, Celine has walked Sky West, so we really appreciate that.

Um, so and we're trying to keep it as an open space as a park, and we've made some progress, and we want to make even more progress if we can.

Um, I actually came up here.

I just want to throw it out into the universe.

Um, I took a picture through public uh, what's that thing?

Uh mobile citizen.

It's a problematic area.

I know Celine is aware of it again.

Um, Supervisor Miley, you hate illegal dumping, and this spot just happens to be a terrible spot for it.

It's at uh railroad road and Grant Avenue.

They're kind of dumping by the railroad again, and it's so hard to get the railroad to pick up the stuff there.

Um, it's almost like it would be nice to have a camera there just to see who is dumping all the time.

We got it cleared up, cleaned up, and then lo and behold, there it is again.

Couches, burned up stuff.

Um, I wish they could kind of put up like a fence along the railroad track, that specific area.

There's also a business by there, so they must have problems.

Anyway, thank you.

This was a great meeting.

Caller.

We're on public comment.

You have two minutes.

IPhone.

Oh, hello.

Yes.

Hi, my name is Nika.

Um, I'm with I'm a resident at Liberty Town Homes.

Um, I'm bringing the matter of and expressing my current concerns for displacement related to charges that are the ongoing utility charges that have been assessed to residents.

Um, these charges have created an unfair financial burden, particularly for those who have already experienced inconvenience, disruption, and hardship.

Um, residents here, um, including myself are being charged over $500 additional fees for utilities, uh, which is not being distributed fairly across the residents here.

Some of us are paying, some of us are not.

Um, so it has been a really inconvenience, negative impacting the circumstances beyond our control.

Um, it already resulted in stress and certainly in many cases additional expenses.

Um, adding charges on top of that on e compounds, the hardship.

Uh, I am requesting that all displacement related charges be completely removed.

In addition, I am asking that the increased utility charges be reviewed and eliminated.

Especially where there has been a lack of transparency, clear justification, and direct benefits to the residents.

Um, I'm also asking for fairness, um, should be the center of every decision that affects residents.

Residents experience this reference to their home services, are equality of life?

They should be resupported, not further burdened with additional fees and costs.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

I hope to see these concerns addressed promptly and the charges removed completely.

Heidi, we're on public comment.

Yes, we can hear you.

Oh, okay.

We have no more speakers for public comment.

Okay, I want to thank all the speakers who spoke under public comment.

And I'm not gonna um engage in any backforth, but uh yes, um I'll have my staff, uh my chief of staff, Tona should be listening, and Ashley's over there.

We will agendize an informational report from the county on this junk fee uh situation, uh, and see uh how um it we are addressing it or can address it or will address it.

Uh and we'll do that at our next unincorporated services meeting on July 24th.

An informational report, um, Roth County Council way in H C D way in as well.

Okay, then um with the uh the uh Eden families, what's oh empower families in Ashland.

Yeah, that uh that a lot.

Yeah, we'll work with you to see how we can help you uh utilize a lot until the fire department needs to uh use it for uh the construction of uh maybe the new station.

Um supervisor, I do have an update on that.

Uh, Daryl.

Well, we can tell them afterwards.

Okay.

Um then I don't think we can ask people to tell us where they live.

Uh they can they have to identify their you know who they are, but we can't force them to tell us, you know, where they live.

Um, so uh and then with the airport, yeah, Celine's here, so Celine hopefully will work with folks on the airport.

And if Supervisor Tam wants to have that on the agenda here, you know, I'm I'm open to it as well.

But I'll it's since it's not in my lane, and I try to stay in my lane, because I have enough coming just in my lane or lanes, plural, so I don't want to de uh deviated out of my any of my lanes, since that's not directly in my um uh lane.

It's in Supervisor Tam Tam's area.

Um and I think that's everything the uh junk fees, the Empower Oak Empower Ashland families, the speaking on the Sky West, and then talking to getting people's uh addresses.

I think those those are everything everyone asked about.

So um I think with that we stand adjourned and we'll everybody have a safe 4th of July and we will see you um next month at the meeting.

Thank you.