And we're in the library.

You want to read the directions for okay.

For a roll call.

Councilmember Conant.

Councilmember Harrison.

Councilmember McLean.

Councilmember Stark.

Chair De Green.

We have a quorum.

For in-person participation, the meeting site is open to the public.

And uh for online participation, follow the teleconferencing guidelines.

Posted at www.acgov.org and use the raise your hand function.

Okay.

Um so the restroom for those of us that traveled a long distance.

And access the restroom.

It's the same one that we usually have open in our meetings.

So we'll probably recognize some later, and I'll probably have to say it's couple of times, but we did get them open.

Um public comments.

I'm surprised.

Well, that's limited to two minutes.

Two minutes.

Okay, fair enough.

Uh well, uh, first of all, I want to uh bring everyone's attention to the celebration of life memorial service for former Alameda County uh supervisor Scott Howard will be held on Saturday, July 25th at four o'clock at the Alameda County Fairgrounds.

Um I've known him since I uh moved to Sonol, and in fact I had the honor of robbing a train on horseback with Mr.

Haggity and then work with him uh while he was doing what he did.

And the one thing I'm thankful for is I read that he had met a goal that I had already achieved, and that was to have grandchildren.

Um we're sorry to have lost him, and I'll be putting out a an um a memorial editorial because of his great service to Sonola.

Um second, I want to ask the um uh so don't you should she set the time up for three minutes?

I see yeah, I'll pick down there.

Okay, and then the other one is um I I've sent to the I I want to speak to the fact that often I have to miss this meeting because I'm speaking on behalf of Sonola uh representing the journey into Sonola flood control.

Uh we still don't have real purchase, if you will, or real uh action, if you will, from zone seven, and so it's a continuous uh uh event to speak to them.

But one of the things I want to say is that they uh copy norm and that organization does a wonderful job of implementing Rosenberg's rules of border.

One of the things I like best about it, and I have 21 seconds.

Okay, better than two minutes.

Interesting.

Okay, I usually have three, never be okay, but anyway, I want to recommend that we use it, and I'll leave it at that.

And then finally, I hope everyone in Sinnol will stay until Connie's letter because that was absolutely crucial to the future of our community.

Thank you for respecting the attention.

Do you have the cards?

Come on yes, you have to join you on public comment.

I'd like to not use that.

Oh, if I could thank you, Rob Tillman's and that I wanted to do it now, Connie's because I may have to leave before the five slides later.

Uh I read your letter, the Caltrans.

It's obvious you did a tremendous amount of work, background work and research.

Thank you for that.

Thank you.

Um all I can say is from the experience in the past.

I attended all those meetings with these guys.

And the I'm sure there's no Elon Musk fans in here, but the whole term waste fraud and abuse.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anybody else are called comments?

I am sorry.

Okay.

Updates.

So I don't have the roof, the boss is a good community vacation.

Deputy Worth Sheriff's Office.

Uh I have a patrol here for the Tribal Valley services, the substation.

Um this month we had 40 uh 28 calls for service out here uh to the Sunola area.

They we've conducted with 33 traffic stops, cited 28 individuals, and there was three three reports uh taken.

Um one by EOD that didn't register on ours, but it pulled up so EOD will respond out to the water temple, which is a new thing for me.

I don't know what that was.

Inside that yard is is that district seven that works there?

It's that apparently um they were using six dynamite for decoration uh in the rocks.

Dynamite gets old and if it gets greasy, it's bad.

But Blake is that's not too bad, but the nitroglycent seems out there was strained although it was flaky, not greasy, but they had it somewhere from the month early 1900s when they both they had chills again.

Lake Pog called out for that.

That was kind of a funny one.

They were bored on, and then we had uh increasing was copper theft, right?

Where these guys are going out, they did uh Palomaris uh candy can go Palmer's road.

Um they chopped down a couple hundred yards of uh uh the cable strip and popper, and they did it out here on Beloma uh in this last month.

So uh other than that, operations are continuing.

So we have asked uh Caltrans to reduce the speed other than that's what we have signs doing the work because it should be seems really big.

We're uh yeah, I well the the gravitar's bypass, it's a going digital, and it they I don't know.

I'm not a trucker with the weights, I think there's a weight limit on the canyon.

I think they beat it with those single uh bending trucks, not the doubles.

So um with Sylvia, uh uh one of my partners, all the gravel that falls off on the on rant was going uh 680 north, uh be washed out with a bunch of gravel.

So somewhere starting to track there's they're supposed to be able to stay in their loads a lot better than they are and not travel, and they are home fast.

Yeah, down down at Ganyon, so we're trying to snap it.

They're giving you a uh truck with the uh radar on it.

So I've been trying to get people over here on uh snow road.

Um the bypassers for traffic dollars.

Thank you.

Deputy, could I ask you a question?

I'm sorry to do you know, is there any provision for the sheriff's department for people in control to have the same key that the fire department has for the knocks boxes on on automatic gates?

There's been an issue at that for my entire time, yeah.

The fire doesn't want to give that up to us.

I don't blame them.

Yeah, well, we had a false alarm on a birdlow alarm in our house.

My wife and I were up north at a different place, and uh I didn't get a call from the alarm company, but I got a call from one of the deputies who had my cell number from some other stuff and said, Bob, are you guys okay?

What do you mean?

Well, we got an alarm on your house and we can't get in.

What was the other?

It's 10848 foothill.

It's where the one wouldn't gang star up there.

So yeah, but that uh fire is it doesn't have that up to us.

I don't know if there's some bylaw or whatever.

Do you know why?

No, no.

I fire my thousand they won't do it.

Yeah, so it's it's uh okay.

It's my toy, and I'm gonna play with it.

I won't call the town if I may.

Um so on Snowballs Wolverine, it's kind of weird, so you know.

I was driving today, this morning, and so one of the lines look very low, which I never noticed before.

Oh, so they're probably boulevard.

And I looked those lines like God, I never know so low those work.

So when I say low, I mean low.

Yeah, so they what they're doing is they're they're going back now, probably taking off, coming back and doing uh uh stage.

I'll let the guys know.

And they they they got a pretty good chunk of uh sim exploring out on the standard 300 yards of four-inch solid copper figure.

So you guys want to cow trans joke while I'm up here, you know?

Sure.

Spoiler might be a joke, but there's uh gonna be a significant layoff coming up.

Apparently, somebody invented a shovel that will lean on itself.

I guess the man's just in just as a cow trend.

Uh Bonnie Tara.

I get to go in that tunnel.

So uh Bonnie says they've had a new system.

She's not not available today, she's under kitchen.

We have a new system, so she has a report from June to July 1, 11 total calls, 55% of them with EMS, 45% cancel it on the delope.

So I mean so there are no no fires during that period.

That's that's what we've seen.

I'm sorry, the um the range in that report was it from last month or June 17th to July first.

Thank you.

11 total calls.

Is that indicate then how able to focus on what is CMA?

I suppose we aggregating a mass amount of data.

It's all those hearing, nothing to report.

Um we advertise a council to find the all sorts of grants with our zero and lighting's replacement, but um all our um glands have seats.

Um did you go to that class that's which I went to what inspectors?

Yes, yes, I am now a qualified anti-five um qualifier to go out and make these to make assessments, not inspections only how far can make inspections.

I can do assessments, it's the same thing that the childfire uh expected to do.

Um so we don't need to have comments on this because I think definitely well we talked about fire fire-wise wise, and I think to get you could tell us what either is the person might get in the way and what can you support you because I'm gonna have to see them showing you that you might have that.

So I'm hearing volunteering as part of the group.

I'm I'm trying to send the group because it's really too much for one person.

So now there's two people.

Anyone else wants to volunteer is to set up firewise view ins and all the number of people.

Oh, at least it's can I inspect it?

Oh, can I have no inspecting for you?

Okay, so I can go.

Okay, so you have three volunteers.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I didn't have to be okay.

That was right, helping.

Yes, I also can awesome.

So you advisory similar to the various workers um call me because I'm gonna be able to make my meeting.

So we can put some to work with here.

Maybe um the education salvage is saving.

Um see downtown revitalization work group.

Um new signs.

Do we have report mode and do that later on?

So staff comments and yeah, that's how uh high I had the night out to the off the areas um finally the cash marks there's funny.

Um and uh they were absent and um I'm surprised we remember that's good.

Yeah, don't like and then the end of the guys.

Oh no, that you left, but I wanted to give uh chairs that you could copy that and asking for it, and all the time to see more people and see more controls.

You want to see it, and they've been out, maybe here they've been on the corner to see if you can't blow over it.

Definitely know that's that's because they're trying to make an effort, so I want to go on records and you see it, and thank you for that.

So it's a large large piece of land, but I think so.

They had they did their open house in the cafeteria a couple weeks ago.

Um, and they had said that they would come to this meeting just to talk about the timing.

That's what's the official statement.

They're not gonna come, they don't they don't want to uh come to this meetings because I'm afraid they can't answer any questions.

We don't want to do open houses.

So if we've got more specific information, we're gonna have to get there to set up another opening house anymore to I have at that meeting.

Mike Martin was there.

I think I previously said at one of the phone meetings that uh we trust Mike Martin, he tells us this is good be very, and so he was asked to go to this meeting.

So I think we'd be a good advocate for uh Sonora he would be right thing for us.

Anyone has any problems about the nice martin?

Thank you.

Um able to save those trees between yards and more and bridges.

I think everybody thing if you see them.

So important.

Aaron and Matt and Should I thank you?

Um we did the policy business very soon, which is and expressed the government site, and you did it first again.

So it wasn't one of the data centers, and you don't want to just regularly separate tonight.

We still think that the planning controls yeah, why don't you have to look at the plan drawing at least expressing topics?

Well data basically to send us represented to the september meeting.

So more people are here, so I just wanted to say that there is a restroom in the back of the cafeteria.

Go on there, that's the teachers on, go through the double doors in the cafeteria, do a single going to the kitchen, and then two to left is the rest of the item four Apdate regarding expansion of the Pleasanton's out of each service.

Good evening, council and chair.

My name is Andy Schneider.

I'm the waste program manager in the county planning department's community development agency.

Tonight we're pleased to present our update on the county's implementation of expanded waste collection services in Synol as part of our efforts to comply with Senate Bill 1383, the short-lived climate pollutants reduction act.

SB 1383 was enacted to reduce methane emissions from landfills by reducing the disposal of organic waste like plant debris and food scraps.

When organic materials buried in a landfill, it becomes anaerobic and generates climate changing methane while local composting process generates no methane and creates a useful organic agricultural product.

So SB 1383 is a statewide bill that says that all communities, all cities, all counties will have three container collection to make sure that all generators, generators is a term for residents and businesses to make sure that they all have recycling and organics collection service available to them.

So it requires three container waste collection provided by a permitted hauler, unless a waiver is granted.

And as we started working in the semi-rural area, especially around Livermore initially, and now around Pleasanton here.

So the county developed a cell call certification program that would allow those that do not want to have curbside collection to have another option.

If you're within a municipality in a city, it's mandatory waste collection.

They do not usually have a cell phone allowance, but the county did carve that out for the unique situations that we have here in this area and in the geese county to give more compliance options.

So these collection systems that are required include the formalization of programs and processing standards.

I know that there have been questions here in this community about what PGS plus if the garbage service does with the collected materials.

Are they keeping them separate?

And SB 1383 really puts guardrails on that entire process where it used to be on the honor system.

Now there's a lot more requirements that are included in our agreement that we drafted with PGS, and they are required to keep materials separate at all stages of the process and ensure that recyclable materials are getting to a MERF that can sort them and that organic materials, if separated by the generator, are taken to a local compost facility where they can be better utilized.

They've been providing service for a long time here in Synol, but without an agreement with the county for their process or their program.

So part of SB 1383 is that we'll formalize those arrangements through an agreement and put some guidelines in there and assurances on the materials that they collect.

Thank you.

I've met with a number of you on the street and watch how PGS collects here.

And some accounts only have a large garbage container, some have recycling, but 1383 requires that every account has recycling available as well as organic service.

That means required three.

Okay, you have track.

Okay.

Recycling and organics.

Organics, we've got to learn that new term.

It doesn't mean that your produce doesn't have chemicals on it.

It means any organic waste that would rot, and that is collectively yard trimmings, plant debris, and food scraps.

Three free bulky item collections that City of Pleasanton accounts have enjoyed for a long time.

Now Synol will get those as well.

And the bulky collections, three annually for appliances, mattresses, excess yard trimmings or garbage.

Also be used motor oil collection at the curb.

They will provide a motor oil collection kit on request, and then that used motor oil can be tightly capped next to the containers.

They'll pick that up as well.

First two weeks of January will have holiday tree collection.

As long as they are not flocked, they will be collected and composted at no additional charge.

And an additional item that PGS threw in was free drop off for up to seven cubic yards of yard trimmings at the transfer station annually.

So that will be an opportunity to keep some of that fire fuel reduced, and people not having to wait until the annual cleanup event to get rid of some of their excess yard trimmings.

They'll also provide food scrap kitchen pails by request.

These are intended to help you collect your food scraps on the countertop, and then that can be dumped into the green waste cart, ideally on top of some plant debris that will help to keep the cart more sanitary.

So this has been a long process of negotiating the service package.

And the county board of supervisors are going to be considering staff's recommendation for a new service area, uh, the program, the agreement with PGS, and the new collection rates.

And that Board of Supervisors meeting is August 4th, right around the corner.

Thank you.

This map shows the proposed county PGS service area.

We're calling it County Collection Service Zone Two.

We have a service zone one that surrounds the Livermore area.

And this is now the new county collection service zone that the board will review and approve on the fourth.

It encompasses all the unincorporated areas around the city, including Sinnolle, Castlewood, Happy Valley, Little Valley, Sheridan Road, and Andrade Road.

Slide five.

So 1383 requires a move to mandatory service.

It's been voluntary up to this point.

And the county's process is we've got a list of accounts that currently subscribe voluntarily to PGS service, but we've also got other occupied parcels that are likely generating waste materials.

And we have identified those and we are mailing a notice to all current PGS customers, as well as any presumed generating occupied parcels within the service zone.

And that notice outlines the compliance options, which is to subscribe to PGS curbside service or to certify with the county as a cell paller, as I've already mentioned.

Current PGS account holders will have their service automatically expanded to include the additional services I outlined.

Waste collection rates are based on the size of the garbage cart, which is the same as its band.

They're offering a 35-gallon garbage cart or a 96-gallon garbage cart, and residents will have the option to change or if they're new customers, select what size garbage can they want to have.

PGS will be delivering any additional needed containers in October of this year.

If the board approves the agreement, um we'll have some options on cart size, and um PGS is developing an online form that can be used to indicate what size service they want.

The residents that choose not to subscribe will be required to certify with the chemist cell caller, and that requires every other year reporting of where the resident took their waste materials.

There are a lot of options in this area as far as transfer stations, landfills, um, and we just need the resident to report to us where they're taking their materials, and if that's adequate, legal diversion, we will certify them as a cell paller, and then we can repeat that process every other year.

And if that's adequate, legal diversion, we will certify them as a cell paller and then leave a repeat that process every other year.

We had initially established annual, but Supervisor Halbert suggested to move that to every other year to prevent too much reporting.

So the notices will be going out shortly.

It'll explain the compliance options prior to the cart delivery in October.

Go to slide six, please.

Do have additional costs.

PGS will continue to utilize the split truck for garbage and recycling.

I've observed how that truck works, it's split down the middle, and the truck operator has the option of shifting a panel to direct the materials into the appropriate section on the truck.

They also have video monitors in the truck to see if people are putting the wrong thing in the container, and could possibly notice them for better sorting if needed.

And the bulky truck will be coming out on by appointment.

So the additional carts, the outreach, the reporting, and some admin costs for the county to be involved in the record keeping, the reporting with the hauler, all of these things have additional costs.

PGS originally proposed the rates for the county collection service zone is going to be a simple 10% increase across the board for all current account holders.

But upon further analysis, it revealed that there have been historically three different rate structures, one for Sinnol, one for Tasselwood, and one for all of those other areas in the county.

They did not make any operational sense.

And we've been able to get the pricing for the different areas, and that's when I determined we were not ready to present to the council last month.

We asked PGS to reconsider how those rates work.

So in Synol, which I know is our primary interest here, the residents who have a 35-gallon garbage cart currently or in the future, um, will have a 12.3% increase, and that increase covers all those new programs, the organic service, the bulky collection, the reporting, and the outreach.

Interestingly, um Synol residents that currently have a 96-gallon garbage cart are going to see a slight reduction with this new program.

Um it's inexplainable, but it's better than a 10% increase for everyone.

There's certainly the opportunity to utilize the recycling and organics carts and potentially fit into the smaller lower rate.

Slide seven shows what I just described.

The current rate for Synol on the 35-gallon trash cart, 4364.

We've got a 12.3% increase to 49.

That's a monthly rate.

The 96 gallon trash cart sees a 3.4% reduction.

What I've asked them to do is move to a single rate structure for all county areas.

So Castlewood, their historic rates are different than Sinnols.

They'll see different adjustments.

So we definitely have a concern if we're adding additional collection carts to the service area that that problem could um potentially become worse.

Um the county does have the neighborhood preservation ordinance that requires that waste containers be brought in from the road or curbside within 24 hours of collection.

We don't want to be punitive here, but if we've got um emergency access hindered or unsightliness with containers left on the roadway, we're prepared to include guidelines for either screening containers or bringing them in off the road in our outreach materials, and if the problem continues, we could do container tagging and um citations are a possibility.

We're hoping not to get to that point.

Um, of course, with some of the unique properties here with long driveways, um, leaving them out of the at the roadside is just then the standard, but we're hoping to keep that to a minimum.

So, in summary, the board of supervisors will hear of our recommendation for creating the collection zone, the expanded services, the agreement with PGS, and the new service rates on August 4th.

It is a public meeting.

Um residents are able to come or um provide remote comments.

Um residents will be mailed the notice with their compliance and container options very soon.

We anticipate next week or the following week, they'll arrive in mailboxes.

The additional containers, the organic start, and if people do not currently have a recycling cart, will be delivered to all subscribed accounts in October, and there'll be additional program guidelines so residents can fully utilize the new program.

And the residents that elect to continue self-hauling can um contact the waste program either by phone or D mail and begin that process of getting cell phone certified.

Final slide nine.

Um has got my contact info and um I'll be providing any input we receive tonight um to the board of supervisors in advance of the August 4th board meeting.

Very thorough.

Okay, anyway, we'll comment on that.

Oh, there's a question that says, excuse me.

Yes, Andrew, could you expand on the self-haul thing that was conspicuously missing from your rate schedule?

I assume if I want to haul my trash to the transfer station in Pleasant, then you're going to charge me for the privilege.

No, you would charge the charge the gate rate there.

Oh, cool.

So you're not required to subscribe to curbside service.

You just need to certify with us, it's fairly painless.

Yeah, no good deal situation.

No, thanks.

Any fees for the uh cell phone?

No.

Okay.

Well, transfer stations and landfills.

I was to say when we fill out the document is certified.

Portion, there are no fees, no fees.

Yeah, that's great.

Well to that end, I heard you say that you would get one trip for up to seven yards.

Seven cubic yards yard, and then I would take that to the transfer station.

I wouldn't have to pay.

Correct.

That's but I know today when I fill my truck up, I drive over there and I pay a very reasonable fee.

It's incredibly good.

I don't care.

It's like 15 bucks.

But I think to the end of what the question is to answer, isn't it fair to say that when I show up in Greenways, we're expected to pay a small fee for dumping that.

And currently that is the case.

I do not know if PGS is going to establish a single day to bring the plant debris or keep records of which residents have brought in their annual seven cubic yards.

Um they currently do one day.

And if you're a subscriber, you'll get a post office of um, you might get one if you pay to have trash haul.

Kelly, uh my daughter uh subscribes to the trash pickup service, and she gets a postcard saying like August the first is a free main waste day.

No, she gets one, she lives on field care.

I think that's it's limited the conversation.

Yeah, sorry, I'll check on that.

Um okay.

The question I have is yard, plant, and food scraps go into a particular place.

I'm uh I'm a peg farmer on a small scale and occasionally chicken dies.

Do I put that in the garbage or I put that in that organ?

Organic facilities do not want mortalities.

Got it.

Well, I mean that's the term.

Okay, yeah, it's for us.

Now, if you've got a um Thanksgiving turkey uh carcass, that is considered food scraps, and the entire thing, bones and all can go in there.

We just don't want any synthetic materials in the organics, so no plastic of any kind, no aluminum foil.

Um, but any food item, even shellfish, meat.

You know, a lot of you are backyard composters here and been doing this for a long time.

There are things you would not want to put in your compost bin in the backyard that you can put in commercial organics collection, so it's really any food scraps, um, including bones, seafood, meat, cheese.

Dead chicken goes in the garbage, yes, guys.

Or in a hole in your backyard questions.

I do have one.

So this is the cell phone certified cell phone.

That only for greenways can still maintain no.

I should have clarified the cell phone certification was for in lieu of curbside collection.

It's a compliance option.

If you are a PGS subscriber, you can take whatever you want to the transfer station and pay the fee, or take advantage of the free day once they create that, but the cell phone certification are is only for people that do not subscribe the PGS service.

So it's gonna be as we now have garbage in the second, and with the third hands, I mean they can't certainly just with the organic material to get to all that on their own.

You know how people have landscapers there, you can come by all FLA for them, so it's very minimal.

But yeah, so they can't it's a bundled service, so there's no cost break for denying the green cart.

We'd like everyone to accept the green cart.

You can request a smaller one, either 35 or 96 gallons.

Um, and if it's really unnecessary because you sell all your your yard trimmings and the composting or animal feeding, all your food scraps, just keep the green part behind the shed of use.

Or just um very briefly, one commentary question.

The way that New York does the ball price, they send certificates once a year for their few ball prices.

We could do it any time to figure out their own.

That would be a nice way to open it.

So I was SMA.

Um, so for the bulky, it's a call in and make an appointment, and then they'll send it.

You tell them what you're gonna set out at the purpose.

I mean, you want to do a cell call out there to transfer station besides the purpose, so that's one way to do it.

All right, I tried that with some of the landfills, Altamont and Vasco.

They were reluctant to do a voucher or a coupon.

PGS at the transfer station may be open to that.

That's what we have to right.

So that's just a suggestion.

So I think it's easier for people to sell for a lot of doctors on there, yes.

Um, but like for instance, you mentioned oil, which is um, which is awesome.

What about paint is not going to be curbside collected?

Um, PGS says that they have filed for a permit to accept paint, considered a hazardous material.

They're they're asking for a permit to be uh not approved yet.

It's difficult to buy the spot favorite.

We buy it.

Yeah, stop waste those manage the HHW facilities, they usually have limited schedules, and I don't know if the proximity works for you, but there are a few options uh deliver more free months.

Okay, so that won't be part of that.

Very good.

No, thank you very much.

And I really appreciate all the appetites on to respond to everybody's concerns and to make it as possible as workable as possible.

Yes, thank you.

And uh extract bad enough to land the newspaper.

Um what happened was the I went back and I actually looked at what we put the staff was telling you boarding features, and I went looking to learn state, and I couldn't find them.

So uh before the hard and wrong, and at least we correct information to the residents out there, and then the residents uh there is no um first of all, it didn't come from staff information.

It came from the board of supervisors out there, and uh I didn't clarify that that's out in our first county collection service zone where we have a mandatory and optional area around the river more and the border between those areas was not clear and got confused.

Um, in this area, everyone is going to do mandatory service or cell fell.

So there isn't going to be that voter confusion here, and we're going to be very careful about outreach and all of our coordination with the supervisor's office.

It seems maybe no, I don't think communications from the city office where I would think that some kind of department like your department could be sending that correct.

We've clarified that to all of the supervisors that staff should be controlling the object.

Yeah, and then second thing is if there isn't any kind of uh mistake or any kind of disagreement, right?

The county according to the town um, they're not responsible, but they're not gonna be running back they don't there's no money back again to be the county is protected from any mistakes that they were made.

So uh again, the the contract we want to try to contract with them.

A lot of times they're gonna say, Hey, you know, we have a contract and you want whatever.

So be careful when you sign contract that uh we don't you think that the government might send you something?

Thank you.

We should put a time on the thing.

Well, that's you all thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

I don't see Scott Songs to talk about the presentation to the ask you guys.

I know it's back and bother him.

Yeah, you might see your line.

No, because just you have to tell one.

I'm gonna call okay.

No, but I'm saying you probably can't get it.

We could go off the very uh so let's go on the four C.

You know, last month.

I think we went to this last month, like you were here.

I sort of summarized it, maybe it um talked about the important parts.

Apologize, I wasn't here by my last one.

That's another thing that I had uh examined.

So this is the second meeting for the uh the way finding signs every working on a couple of years until those I've at least new cases of the inside how we got here.

But 2022, 2023, was an old certain by the council and kind of uh obviously an out of that economic to development list for the urban designer to identify the ways to revitalize that time.

Several community held is already in the workbook of ideas for clearing the appearance of main street, making them a pedestrian training, highlighting towns as well.

Uh supply decisions um uh evaluated and make the idea when we lay finding signs will identify as a high priority item.

So that's what we've done asked working with space and way finding signs that couple years.

Um there was a lot of feedback received, and usually have some good information about where it was at and where it was posted and what was behind it and all different things there.

So it received uh overall public feedback.

So now uh reporting today can be request funding from the synthesis and most many different funds to fabricate and install the remaining three signs to complete the system.

So how will improve overall life all the life and cement?

Um the completed set of wayfinding signs that highlights the most historic features and provide clear attractive information for new residents and visitors or demonstrate the pride some residents have in their town's history and character together the signs or reinforced that similar to destinations we enjoy rather than simply a cut through community's cut through for music.

Um as far as these wayfinding signs, they're designed for possession, they're not designed for parts.

So it's not designed to all you go in the 84 here.

This is it's it's designed for people walking.

Where's the boss go patches?

How do I find the little brown church?

Where's Costcare Woods?

Where are the water?

That's the idea for futures where you um zero and blocking.

Um, how will the community involved in the planning annual implementation?

Reader intact community input is always that expensive.

A public listening session is held in the Samoa Deco Garden in 2022.

Proposed designs were shared at the community medium Consider early 2023 and regular progress reports that we provide at monthly uh SCAC means.

The prototype sign has been installed uh and viewed by the public, all the room we part of the feedback.

This feedback confirms community support and the guide the final details for the remaining three signs.

So does the project have other sources of funding um or will the project be great?

So no, there are no other uh secured funding for the fabrication installation of the main three signs.

The work group has worked with the signed company to offer coordinating house number signs also through profits and then we set aside for long-term maintenance of the finding signs.

Explain the material that we use in the project.

Um, I have the prototype and diagrams, but any more still we can share those with you.

Um describe your organization, you or your organization's ability to implement the project the signs we fabricated installed by an experienced signing company that successfully completed the prototype.

Um, because the locations are on the shop, we will obtain the necessary approvals to nominate public works, um, the smallest guy and council and downbound evaluation work group to continue to coordinate to five.

We select the signing company with a lot of experience uh doing civil and business uh cities and towns and that sort of thing.

So not there, there's no other value.

Um so uh describe the project timeline completion with the prototype sign already successfully completed and approved by the community fabrication installation of the remaining three signs can proceed quickly.

We anticipate the full project ordering to the final installation can be completed within three to four months after funding of host three or three or months how funding approved, weather permitting, obviously.

The project will take a couple months to complete and the residents by input on the value of this.

So um it did go up a little bit, and due to the two to three years gap uh since original submission and significant increases in material and labor costs, the budget had been revised upwards in the original request.

The new estimate reflects our current price into the two remaining signs.

The original estimate didn't have approvals, and we got once we were done.

We've got the public works, and public works have all of the feedback and things that are changed and the breakaway signs.

So that there's a lot of things that had to happen by that when we raise the top of the signs, and then plus two to three years later, they were building up and they will fill up all those things that we were discussing uh earlier.

Um, so describing necessary maintenance that may be required once the project is completed.

So the science design and constructed for long-term variability and should last for several generations.

That was something that's specifically discussed in our didn't require any maintenance, and uh and we get it and we make it, and we got to maintain it, and they're designed to last a long time with little to no lettering for specific locations expected to last approximately 20 years before needing a refresh or replacement.

Funding for ongoing maintenance will be supported for each process from the sale of meaning house number signs.

For those who don't know and saw the sign, there's a four tan steel, kind of picture of the small water temple.

And it gets the older it gets the better it'll be because we can get um and the idea is we're we're we're they're gonna offer people who want to have that same sign for the the house number of their house, and you can do that and have your house number, and then they'll take the profits from that and use it to be not many community signs or needs to be needed.

So um, anything else you want to know?

We are excited to complete this highly building community project that has already demonstrated a strong resident support through the successful prototype, finishing the full set of four wayfinding signs we provide by NISA, and historically the spectral will disignal lists.

Residents and visitors alike can be proud of, including the project with the handle results from the downtown revitalization planning effort and serve as a visible sign of investment in our town's character and future.

Thank you for your continued support.

And then on the back of the handout is the uh new uh um the cost to uh install all four, the cost to make the new three, plus the planning, uh plus the planning department, plus the permits and installation and all the things.

So the new amount we're requesting for to finish the project 29,000 eight 382 and 15 months.

Yeah, it's the same as same price, same cost as it was cost.

Yes, yes, I don't know.

Since we started two years ago, but that's the same amount as a assessment.

Yes.

Are you getting the questions?

No, I mean we would have to know any promise that you still think you have your first month and plus uh no some well, I really like so this one also long time.

But you look at us like us target money, it's back is not funny as it is, and it could be there for us, the future generation is really good.

Um I think it's worth doing uh support.

Yeah, it's not very and I thought it was uh uh I want to make is um the business is intending to provide the service of sign those um the signs that go on frequency, and there was anything it was written that specifically the funds would go into the protecting for the science.

And now typically where we operate, we have a long-term fund, which we invest and actually makes money and like the the current fund that we have here.

Um, where we uh the small business takes care of those things that the small is just code is built, and we intend to take on the long-term um uh support of this as well.

I think the only thing that I might just be gonna raise your money into the fund, I think they'll use the fund to do a lot of things, but I think that um and and I can double check with Michael, but I my understanding was our intention that the single business supply does uh fundraiser, but then use that money to fill long-term fund that we use to take care of um long-term meetings.

Um full support, thanks for the good work, and uh speed.

Does it on it could have changed anything?

That's that's like you know, I think the sign is on there, they're they intend to do it themselves and never set up the right site so people can sign up and have a house and do it.

Um smart and steel that's um being like that's what you've been having redesigned that part or how I think that they're offered to the business school for the two.

Yeah, I mean it doesn't it doesn't pertain to this specifically, that's just something down the road.

Um I I wouldn't like I know that the sign the sign manufacturers have you know seven means that's kind of building a website they told you about building that we're gonna make the website you can click on it and you order it and then and then we'll tell you the funds to do it.

So if that's different than where you want to do that, you can come back.

Yeah, I thought they said the sign, uh uh like how far fire requires for identifying the price on some very good to see how some time is real, right?

Yeah, that's just a reflect uh specifically uh remember for the high expensive script about it and then we have but if you remember the point of nine draw um these are not what they told us, they said that the way the design industry was then you know the I mean I guess there's very decided the newsletter on the signal screen.

But I bet they're designed with like a couple UV cover over the letters with the resistance sun feeding and almost like you pay five dollars, and then not thinking they're gonna give them a long activity.

So we do we ask about this and doesn't want to we're not we're not a too closely in the town, so we don't get a public half the awesome thing these things have to build in the cloud, you know what's bad.

So it designed specifically for laugh and required prepared with the same.

Again, UV protection on the sign.

We can resist and some feeding and levels are 55 dollars and they're not maybe going to give them the long so we do we ask about this and you don't want to we're not we're not a too closely town so we don't have to sit around the awesome big happy building not with bad guys that we have to do so we'll design specifically for laugh and require the communities and again you be protecting what the science that's right when around to like to run county with an unincorporated town and they had and I was thinking oh yeah these signs would go great and sinew whatever well I was cool because it's not just the signs that are beautiful they've actually kind of coordinated all their uh like the awnings and the stops and maybe coordinated colors it's it's uh if you have enough money you can make the whole town look nice and uh so you know someday this just for as fire you know someday you can look really cool if we just kind of coordinate everything everything really some like I'll ask last second here otherwise we like these at the sign themselves we designed 100% by a local uh similar we've lived here a long time we do we have any note you designed it you do a local artist very very uh expected guys and uh so it's it's prototypes and you've all heard the signs and there's really really fine the way finding signs or refined signs total at this point is 2132 cents any more discussion council member conner council member harrison council member mane council member star degrange motion pass four years interesting well thank you what can we have okay um item four D request a thousand dollars and support to snow business skill fundraising event on August 22nd and I think Vina was going to stop on that and she is on the right yeah I'm here great well I I introduced your item did you want to talk about it hello yes a presentation on the C want a business guild request all right and can I be heard by everybody?

Yes okay so I'm here to uh represent the Sinnol business guild and uh we are putting on a fundraiser um in town and uh it's a community event uh it's we call it a stroll in Sinnol pours picnics and paws it's a free event to the public and we were uh looking for support uh from the community improvement fund for a thousand dollars to go towards our hard cost of advertising permit fees insurance entertainment and equipment rentals we already have our um prime sponsor um from um um david howbert's office county supervisor of 2500 um all of our hard costs are around 3500 so uh we would I like to ask the board uh for the thousand dollars uh for the community improvement fund so we can put on an event that will be a community event and um something for the Sinoleans and the local families and uh school families to all enjoy stand that you are asking for donations from any of our businesses I can't hear too well um I wonder if Michael's in the audience Michael Miller yeah I'm right here okay I can't hear too well with the questions Michael yeah so we do have um businesses that have uh are donated to the event as well um we just got one uh the our doggy event is sponsored by uh Natalie Giotto and her real estate company is dropped off a check today actually um and um the other ones I'm not sure because I'm not on that committee but um we yeah we have quite a few uh Snow Casabella uh 500 and uh quite a few of the other businesses Synol uh stop uh 1500 we have actually 10 sponsors already yeah well um I know that the um the store is also donated yes oh kind of stores donating costs of dollars donating um so we're we're getting a good response from the I guess I understand you said that you said the hard costs being up to the hard cost of 3500 and how it's office gate 2500 but this is a lot of fundraising if I sort of what's that there's a lot of two fundraising effects are going

We have actually 10 sponsors already.

Yeah, we're um I know that the um the store is also donated.

Yes, oh every store is donating cost of dollars donating.

Um so we're we're getting a good response from the you said the hard costs being at the hard cost of 3500 and how it's office gets 2500, but this is a lot of fundraising effects over what's that because fundraising effects are great for the uh our annual different event.

So this isn't this event is one of our fundraising effects.

It's a community event, so we're putting on an aggressive community, and the proceeds of it will go into our general fund that will come back to the school uh the forage, all of the stuff that we support, we typically spend between ten or fifteen thousand dollars a year back into the community.

So we have to raise those funds throughout the year.

I was refused to be said the hard cost of 3500, and then happened to lower the 3500 on the hard cost, but the donations a little over 3500.

Donations are going into the going into the donation five, but it's the other and yeah.

So our procedure, um, you know, Michael is to have it is two months, but in your music as well.

And so this is the first time you're seeing this, right?

And don't read in August next week in September secondly.

That's what we're at.

I think it's going to be August.

Yeah, so if it's something that the board does approve in September, that'll just help us with our fund.

Would it be appropriate to speak to this now or when you leave in September?

I'd like to make a comment, but I didn't fill out any time.

So we'll put set up the timer.

And this would be for the committee.

As I remember it, and I was on this committee when this whole community fund became a thing.

Uh, that I remember specific language where the money was for the improvement and betterment of the town of Signal.

I personally I got little little fight with the business dealer, but I have a problem with using the community fund money to sponsor a funders that the business deal might be putting on.

Uh save our snow when it was active, we were very active in it in the 4H and everything else.

Then we raise money, we raised money.

Then we took contributions from people from businesses in France and did it that way.

So uh you know, I I don't think it's an appropriate use of those funds, but if you guys could see them any other funds, you don't see the best kind of something extremely worthwhile cost for sure.

Um but Mike would have yet over the three bigger changes for hard fees of the things you know bridges like the same grand we put into the block last week.

Stuff that we can see for generation.

So it certainly sounded like a very cause.

Um I didn't know if the money could be used to actually you know usually to the fundraiser or my mind is more for our pre-book things that you can do to beautify and devalues something.

Sorry, it's just the question.

Um what tangible things has the business build contributed to its fundraising efforts to the community of the fact or the business field question or the SCAs.

So the list is all the three hundred million dollars.

So the money comes back and we can through the efforts of volunteers, and also funding specifics I guess um people have asked for um improvements from the downtown fund.

Um you have signs back from have you changed the town that are coming, no representing um welcome to some of those projects are numerous.

We have a small upgrade on uh CML.

And I put out some information to be a community because I happen to be the community financier.

I organize approximately 10,000 a year philanthropy budget of the outcome, and uh correctly uh perhaps it's non-tangible for some people, but I feel really strong in the socioeconomic physically youth at the school often have the opportunity to participate in fourth grading things and we were to go on to sixth grade education if you work together.

That's one third of what you do.

I think it's important that we have two scholarships for the school.

One is an academic scholarship, and what is a scholarship in memory of Bud Hell, who is in the outstanding contributor to answering the question on behalf of the board, and you can decide if you want, but yeah, I think it's okay.

Fair enough, but that but I can go on.

I have that nice second stuff.

Okay, but I'm pleased to answer in detail that question.

And I'm proud of what we do.

I just want to finish by saying that on the talk again.

Oh, in unincorporated areas, there's really not a government to go to.

I'm trying to understand the layout here.

Um unaccorporated areas, there's not a government that sponsors things.

This is our forum, right?

And so in the absence of that, um, it's mostly volunteers who come together and try to do things to earn money to raise money to invest back in the community, and that's what we're talking about, right?

So your decision is based on between who can get this money in the plan.

Um, and I just wanted to say I think it's really five.

I think it'll bring people from outside the community here.

I don't know what they're gonna say about the product.

Karen, Vina has her hand up.

Yes.

So it's first off, it's a little bit difficult for me to understand every single word, but I do want to be asked specific questions.

Um, especially from the gentleman um that stood up that uh opposed this uh because I've been on the board now, the business guild uh for quite a few years, and I think this are there's a you know misunderstanding of the business guild just by its name itself.

We are not doing any kind of fundraiser or any community event to help the businesses, the businesses take on most of the cost to produce these events, and this event specifically, yes, we want it to be a fundraiser because that's our mission.

Our mission is to give back to the community, but we probably thought we were doing a um something you know that is also benefiting the community by bringing an opportunity for the community to get together.

I think there's a sense of uh lost community since nobody is powering the bed races, the chili cook-offs, and we need help for that.

We cannot fundraise or we cannot get sponsors to take care of all hard costs and then have enough money to actually have a profit and give back to the community.

So I think this is kind of the event that we all want to.

We want to bring these kind of things back to the town of Sennol.

And again, this is not for the businesses to capitalize on the businesses are primarily taking care of the cost, except for the sponsorships that we've gotten from the county, and that we're asking from the community um improvement fund.

And Andrew's okay.

We have something just really quick, just real quick.

Vina, I'm a my company, my wife and myself are founding members of the business guild, the business guild were put together years and years ago, and the the business owners that lived in Sinnol were asked to participate in it because everybody knows if you're in business, you're rich, right?

No, that's not true.

Let's go ask Mary the barber who does $20 haircut.

Yeah, the sign the signs at the front of the uh entrances to town were funded by that original business skill group.

My wife designed them and worked with the people to build them.

Uh if all the money that the business guild ever spent, and this this instant project that they want to do is is admirable.

I mean, I'm all for it.

I just think that requesting money out of a fund that was specifically set aside for a different purpose is is improper.

Why don't they ask Caltrans for a thousand dollars?

Same thing, we will create the well.

Actually, we I agree with Pam.

We need to get some written uh clarification of what these funds are for because it's that's there, it's in the it's in the original charter of it.

I was on this committee when that was created.

I think those I think we've met those.

If you read the whole brochure, we've met all those criteria.

Okay, we'll have another opportunity at our next one.

We're talking September.

That's the question I'm gonna have here.

This request of fund was for this specific event for the event for a forest for the pause is a free event August 22nd, but we don't need again until September.

So we can't, you know, because the phone is not gonna be included or not if there is but the event's already gone.

So what so what's the second evening that we can in September?

Oh, reimbursement wasn't right.

Um really quick raise my hands at the very beginning.

But anyway, um yeah, you're gonna bring out the button.

Okay, okay.

I have not spoken.

Sorry.

Okay, um, you don't have to research it by loss.

Um because they can't get the money out.

But yeah, we have been at the funding now.

We don't have a lot of things we should do.

The bar require the bed legs all the stuff.

We don't have it.

This is not things.

Um needs to we need to find it somebody can get together at the same time and do it.

And so it's long again.

So I support the idea.

I I understand what's being said also that you have to look at the playoffs.

Can you say you're not doing this?

But if we can, I think we should be on the agenda.

Thank you guys very much, Ina.

I'm hoping it would be a successful gathering.

Okay, let's go on to four time to guard the CS to our 10 degrees and stuff.

And um the letter it's probably as the letters in the back, right?

Yes, okay, so it's maybe a page.

I'm not gonna read it.

So if you had a chance to look at it, um it has to do with the project changing from what was described from the TIR.

And change has not been evaluated by the state select conservation office, and we think find it has not been valued.

And um concerns about it, and it asks for that anyway.

There's eight action might have said this name there's too.

So we would like Caltrans to stop putting stop working in the area of the water supplicates to consult with Shippo to display the regulations qualified architect, who is new, was just my requiremental limitations that they can see your influence and the final impact reports provide this funding console and company and historically review and say taxing plan is um keep it informed about the project changes.

I mean S.

We'd like the Caltrans to explain the financial Easter new years and they want to temple case, including distance and monotraffic line, explain how these found ways one potential to package that you have to want to put the case and Caltrans coordinate this work with SFTC consistent with the small long-term improvements projects and a D consistent at the MLA, you can add that to it, and we realize that they want to be the water table gates are in the right and the Caltrans.

And we realized that the water table gates are in the right of the Caltrans.

And they really find their ship old person.

Can you see on there?

Are there any questions?

Yeah, just gonna know that head back.

I reminded this ago with the Allen Creek alignment to see them.

Yes, so this seems as advanced as what they do use though.

Um raising the nerves to listen to us, but they're done in record.

I thought that one kind of I don't even just think they want to start the market.

Um I wrote an informed, I mean, a uh mighty from Main Street editorial on this praising the work of Conising the work and the detail and reminding Synolians that since 2018 when I used to be paid to run informed Sonora.

We put a lot of work into documenting uh several things that uh Caltrans did, and Caltrans is a state level cabinet position recording to the government, a huge organization, and I'm sure that there's a lot of great people, and I I know great people working in that organization that want to do well.

However, the one thing that we've been able to count on, and the thing that is saved by us is our relationship with Alex Lee and Jerry McNey.

David Halbert said, I would love to help you, but I don't have purchase over a state level organization.

However, the two people that we can count on are Alex Lee and Jerry McNurney.

And if this sounds like a commercial for them, it's because the way that they have served Sonol.

I stand with them, and I call on them to implement Connie's and support Connie's letter, and I thank you for every bit of your hard work.

I hope that you will as a council unanimously approve that this is letter is sent on behalf of not only this group but the entire Sunol community.

Thank you for the spectrum attention.

I've heard about a tree going down.

I remember that tree, and I've done a little clean of the gate of the water temple, and it's important because the gates of the water temple are significant, they are part of the water temple, and for aesthetic reasons.

The inscription around water temple is a thing of beauty is a joy forever, it's loveliness increases, it never passes into nothingness.

So to take the tree like that out is like erasing up our a part of that aesthetic, that beauty, and our history, the gates of the water temple.

I remember you know we go to the water temple and have picnics and uh the little brown church had box box lunch picnics and uh our history, it's our history, it's our sense of place.

There is no other place like that has a water temple like we do.

The other one's way across the bay, and it's open if they're very special, and it's like going to San Francisco to the police of fine arts.

So, anyway, it's all a big part of the package that gate, and to see it to see that tree just come down like that for the travesty.

had box box lunch picnics and uh our history it's our history it's our sense of place there is no other place like that has a water temple like we do the other one's way across the bay and it's open if they're it's very special and it's like going to San Francisco to the police of fine arts so anyway it's all a big part of the package that gate and to see it to see that tree just come down like that with a travesty I hope I'm talking about the same tree but this the three I'm talking about is over by the uh that little uh um convenience store on the corner and they cut down this one right here they cut down a the tree right there on front of that convenience on the owner was very upset when they point it out that they they didn't get any one anyway so I went and looked and quite okay what did they put in the uh they put in a traffic light uh that so that I looked carefully at the traffic light that's that's sitting there and this traffic light is for the benefit of people leaving the water temple or not people of actually a lot of the construction traffic um the uh government traffic probably doesn't even go through that gate very much but you know so there's hardly nobody that can leaves the water temple and to destroy the tree for the benefit of traffic that barely exists that they could have figured out something else to do with all that traffic like give them a uh a stop sign or whatever um it's just uh in a so that that that traffic is not really necessary i don't know what the you and then uh the other thing um um about this uh you look you know looking ahead the future maybe these what these gates the the water temple gates um they're starting to you know they get old they they they need to be like painted or whatever or maybe new coat of of uh you know stuff or whatever you do to them to make them look look really good and then lighting so these things you know would all would okay so someday the future is not just save the gates it's make great gates really pretty gates okay so a couple of things on the the one photograph if you had up there that showed the red of this proposed post you know sorry was the the location of that man standing there is that part of this brand scheme to make that a tree which is directly into the into the into the pole i mean into the uh uh corner of the of the water temple or the concrete bunkers there um uh I flash back to a meeting when when the whole alameda creek lawsuit occurred over the tree cutting in Nile Standard there's a meeting after meeting after meeting for Calcettes and I remember specifically at one meeting I think we were up in Oldson somewhere in office that we were arguing Beltrans was arguing that it needed to be four lanes all the way through we needed to make it like Pro Canyon Road and Alameda Creek Save Arsenal and a number of other groups were saying no you don't there it's it can remain two lanes and do some improvements here.

If you do your research and look at the lawsuit that they lost that Caltrans lost the judge tore apart Baltrance's arguments about the need for speed in that in that location one of the guys from Caltrance that was sitting there made a sarcastic side remark as we were sitting there that one of these people arguing about that road's going to be four lanes anyway no matter what they say and the final comment that the tree in front of Heine's are in front of Lon's place that they cut down they cut down a nice old walnut tree with no warning he went out there and objected the guy just stepped cutting it and then what does Cal Franz do in their infinite wisdom you put a 12 inch or 14 inch steel pole right in front of where that tree was the argument was somebody might hit the tree well they're gonna hit your pole include the quote that she mentioned in your letter I haven't read it yet but I think it's so beautiful um thank you for that and do they have a time frame that they're obviously to respond or they don't really have to respond the MOU says in response to the request that's well I have to remember the public was product from your 15 days okay and I typically a time limit and um it would be helpful to let's know who we could write to if we wanted to write or make this very okay thank you actually have the motion that we say letter and it's a send the other changes

Okay.

I'll make a motion that we need some letter.

And yeah, we'll have to respond by now.

Yes, they have to have the open spawn tonight.

Do we have any idea like next plans?

Uh big action line is point.

I think we have any schedule with when the next step would take place.

It's next on the agenda and we could talk about yeah.

I think I'd like to be more about what's in the three knowing the other thing.

No, it's if they're if they're about to tell us that we're going to be for tomorrow.

I think we're talking level on the letters, like we're on the top of the night.

So then we're changing emotion to sign a letter tonight with the turn.

Put it in this farm and post this.

I don't think this is on the audience.

I think do we need to make a motion and we can see on the doing suspicious virus within the top plan?

Um what I would suggest is that you prove the letter now because it's a chance.

Okay.

And then here they have to say and we've been on to face our recipe.

All right, right.

I'll I'll maintain my second.

You want to work back?

Council member Conan.

Council member Harrison.

Council member McLean.

Council member Stark.

Chair de Green.

Motion pass.

Okay.

You're up to talk about Caltrans and where they were in the bridge.

Well, I can't say the energy didn't shift up a ride.

Oh, we tell me I'm hypertensilla, and I'm your Paletran Alameda County Publish Information Officer.

So not just for this project, but anything related in Alameda County, I think you'll point a contact with the 680, the 580, the 880, and even the Bay Bridge.

And then Andrew, I get your newsletters almost on the weekly basis, they're always a fun read.

Well, sad to see Bosco's roadhouse closed down and threw a bow number of before when I visited.

I was looking it up right now, but maybe that's what we needed to go right now.

Okay.

Yes, no slides coming out.

I'm copying it too much.

Location still writing for proprietary three.

And we're just getting our PowerPoint presentation ready.

So you're waiting to get that ready.

I wanted to thank um Cal France for moving the stop bar back.

Um that was that there is a little bit to try to approve.

Okay, that's one I saw how difficult it was because that works in terms and how traffic kind of slowly back up.

So we have that jump on the back one.

How many years?

I think you guys probably did pianists more than me at the moment.

You know, Jen is retired.

Uh big little shoes to fill, and she was very involved with all the projects and other communities.

And I know that she had a special, so no aspect of questions on the heart in regard to keeping the guys in forms.

Oh, of course, who's now the director of Alameda CTC, still following the same mantra of people firm.

We're trying to sit here and be here with the community and listening to you know the concerns that you guys have and doing the best that we can.

So here, if you already know Cleveland, is our project manager for this project.

All right.

Uh thank you for having us.

Uh pretty much uh be our uh community new uh representing from our site also.

And uh of course, I'll be here and we will have our principal.

Um we have a spot and the Aliphon construction, they will be percent.

We have most of the uh latest knowledge for us that we schedule while you can construction on each on the project, so they will be available to before not everything in particular.

So I'll go with the project overview quick.

I don't think anybody knows how to um other development projects and uh uh we're gonna create the bridge.

And I'm gonna mention a couple of um uh restrictions that we have the limited time we have to be there within the three area.

Uh, we can only access that area between June 1st and October 15, and that's the critical time when most of the patient from the front of the happen to them on the bridge, we do the three never remains and to start bringing the girders and bring the bridge up from the bottom up.

It's a very limited window and uh with the traffic handling and everything else.

So first season is happening right now, and a lot of other issues we are encountering in the first season.

They're also learning as we are going.

So this is the toughest uh season and the staging for the contact transfer for anybody.

So bear with us, and uh as you know, the bridge will provide uh uh new wider safer conditions.

There will be ADA compliant uh sidewalk and uh a bike lane on the southern side of the bridge.

Um more enhancement and easily improve connectivity to Snow, pleasant and Cremont and Liverboard by having this new bridge.

It'll look good too.

From the last few weeks, we have mostly it's uh demolition operation for the north side of the barrier and the uh sidewalk that we had to the first stage of operation.

We had to move it out, remove some portion of the bridge also and uh get ready, and also a lot of work happening in the creek area.

Uh we've built um the development system where um uh working on the SLPC.

Uh working with them was a little bit challenging because they have their own uh project and water barrier, water dam there, and to divert the water water from the water dam was a big challenge for uh our project also.

So they're still um on it on a full scale.

I think you people we have seen everything by URLs, so it's just uh okay.

So we'll go to the specific questions that we have uh in the agenda today, and I'd also like to mention some more questions.

So I think I told you hi.

I have uh your other questions, but I'll send the responses.

So I've been working with our construction team and to make sure you can get the the appropriate answers.

But for here, instead of just filling you guys with PowerPoints full of mumbo jumbo, we wanted to just go for one by one that's already on the agenda here.

Number one was the shuttle service, which the shuttle service we had there to accommodate folks that needed to cross the bridge while construction was happening during the daytime after a meeting while I was on vacation of time, and our staff uh it was concluded that the usage was minimal, there was not a lot of people using it, so we decided to halt the service, but it's still available.

If there's an event or some concern that happens, or something you guys know where that shuttle will be needed, give me a week of notice so we can get it started back again.

So the shuttle is available, but at the moment, I think we saw one or two riderships uh throughout the time that we had it open.

So it was just best to hold it for the moment.

So this is uh after hearing your last agenda item.

I think we want to give you guys more of a formal response as this is the hot topic that we are going to be discussing.

Uh, one thing that I can tell you is that we have the listening, we are working with our contractor or construction teams are aware, and uh their goal is to minimize any impacts on trees that are not necessary for the safety of the crews and for their ability to be able to do the work.

So everything is uh for their plans or where they have to work and the safety improvements that they are making.

It happens, but like I mentioned, and I will respond more formally.

And I know you guys want to put a date on it.

We hear you first thing I'm gonna do send some email to my managers to be ready for the letter, so we can give you a topic response on what the next items are uh regarding any tree work that is happening.

I'll also let the shrub team know that this is happening so we can uh be a little bit proactive.

So this question and uh this number third, I will uh add a little more to it for the uh three later work.

So for the retaining wall area and the three preservation uh specifically near the school boundary.

So the school uh maintenance manager and superintendent, we have been working with them.

I think uh a couple of people from the group also joined and we stopped the work that night, and then we went back there.

We marked our uh layouts, we marked the specific branches that were um uh overwhelming and coming to the traffic side, and we worked with the maintenance manager from the school, and he was with us and um agreed on everything, and then I think we dream a couple of branches and no tree was taken out from that area, and the minimal uh re-dreaming happened, and we'll keep monitoring that as we go and as we build, and uh we'll work it out.

You are you're more than welcome to bring up any other concern on those trees.

And um originally we had uh a couple of more two things.

I believe they were interfering uh to larger extent, and uh we were a little bit um uh doubtful of them, but we have so far we are okay now right now, and uh we'll keep monitoring them and uh we'll see how it goes with the retaining wall construction.

Nobody knows uh when we excavate how deep the routes are gonna be.

If we is it ever going to encounter any route for any specific tree, you're gonna keep um the main idea uh in the loop for that.

Just clarify this kind of city's talking like trees that are the school grounds in the hallpark fields.

Um like one of the things about two major stems, I think we call it green of five.

It's hanging fully toward the uh cleaning wall of the future roadway site.

So it has the potential to come back to traffic.

So I think we'll we'll keep monitoring that and uh work out with uh new guys and uh school on those nice.

Um retaining wall is also part of what I discussed, and uh it's right by the uh next to the trees, and we will start the work on it.

Some work in the tweet, so we are out of the three, and we can take any other questions specifically if anyone also uh on the safety.

I think you already picked up my point on the main street.

So main street concern was brought up, and uh I came there specifically also on Saturday morning, looked at it, and um, I think by Monday or Tuesday, we were able to bring the uh straw bar back and make a better turn so that uh anybody coming with the longer uh haul can make a better left front from the main street.

So they're good concern, and we appreciate that.

We brought it up and uh we were able to work out with them.

I think that actually resolved it.

We have the horse people who drive trailers, and we don't fish it.

Yeah, that's why we are there.

I mean, it's uh it's a very good uh that's what between practice and theory and practice, right?

So in theory, that was enough space and practice.

The horse people need to need more yards, so we're very good at this insurance being brought up as well as uh the traffic signals.

For that, uh, we want to give you guys a call of action to contact CHP.

We have extended that uh those research to our CHP contacts that we have, letting them know the concern that you guys brought up, but also think it it would be an extra effort for you all to specifically uh contact California Highway Patrol and let them know to continue to have those speed.

I have a concern of uh construction uh sometimes we have to put a one lane and there's some other side and then south time uh we can come through the construction uh last thing uh and you guys have if it's your turn to go or somebody else's head at this nice hand, what's it happening?

I think we have a different direction.

Somebody somebody be clear about new stuff, can you go and advantage they're just like maybe I try to describe it?

That's a point of contact, those are very valid concerns that you can let me know so we can let our contractor know, which I kind of subcontractors who are staff to continue traffic.

So if you can tell us a day and around what time we're able to print how it gave us addresses with the five years, happy to do that.

So it seems to be a lot from my perspective.

There's a thing really go which people are going to use the go and mainstream that's my question.

I don't know, but it doesn't present well.

Thank you.

Okay, yeah, and adding to this uh we have added some uh speed limit signs along with the feedback feedback signs, it'll be more speed that we can sign and feed feedback without signs now in this area.

CHP will be enforced leading the link closures more actively, so give us some action item that we are taking, and also I believe uh last meeting we had with uh with you for me.

We brought up the number of trucks passing by um accessive trucks passing by uh specifically it was not um um related to the project, but we I talked to you about the truck coordinators, and um uh we cannot stop uh trucks, we cannot tell them no only to hell us and uh scaring trucks we can enforce at the same time.

We have our construction for each I mean from them, but also CHP told us that it's better if that concern comes from the influence because if you guys can tell them about uh accessing number and see what they can do, and but from other side there, and we reach them and that's what they informed us.

I actually have a comment from somebody in the city of uh Blue Month that lives on SRT 38 on Mission Boulevard, who told me they swore to me that like I don't need to complain, but for the first time in my life, I have seen a lot more trucks going by.

So we checked it those projects.

Um I told her to contact local police, city of Hayworth, City of Fremont to see there's some big project happening just because when you look at the route, who would mean using that route is very specific, but at least it's it's not part of the project.

Some of them are, but it's uh complaint or concern that I've also heard from uh people living in that such a those are guys falling dirt and asphalt, so there must be some huge thing in free month going on.

I sit there every morning and have coffee, and they're all coming from the canyon, and they're all coming from the quarries, going back the other way, unless you guys are moving at home a lot more dirt that I think.

I think part of the concern is that we're mentioning the change because those lanes are so new, yeah.

I think they're going so fast.

Yeah, and the accelerating it produces a big evolution models, and yeah.

So, yeah, and then we also remove those unnecessary unnecessary signs that uh you pointed out, thank you for that, and actually more clean it and give you no messages to be out here now.

Next slide.

Well, all over on the narrow lane, you know, there's probably and can create limits if they say, Oh, but we don't have a height limit, but we have a width limit, some kind of you know, and limits are whatever it's sidewalk, for example.

Well, all of on the narrow lane, you know, there's out there probably and can create limits if they say oh but we have a height limit, but we have a width limit, some kind of you know, and limits are whatever sidewalk was that you can probably say this is how big we're gonna allow on this road now for technical reasons, not for not because we don't like too heavy, or whatever.

We we're not yeah, yeah, for the California code that we do follow that is not necessarily this is above, but then you guys are really good at talking to your state senators and state legislators, so it's something you can bring up to them, but definitely help them do their homework just because of that busy, but all that is California code, right?

No, there's like you know, fair enough.

Well, so let me throw us uh conclusion.

I think uh we added this slide and I think it was also uh your question uh we brought it up on here.

Uh the other question on uh uh why is that guy doing there?

Is it gonna be a walkway?

Yeah, where he was one of the slides had a like a red pencil drawing of what looked like with being tilde hole somewhere here, and there was a man standing there directly in line with the function.

We have that slide.

But uh you guess that right that is going to be a sidewalk and a pedestrian path that will have a protective barrier from the sidewalk, not a traffic light, yeah.

Yeah, so sidewalk and uh bike lane and uh light should be where it is like no, but move to the side, yeah.

So where that guy is standing is not part of a traffic lane, it might be a bicycle or something.

Yes, that's like they can ride around that, but you don't have you don't have to mess with that corner buttress there for the water template.

The fear the fear around here is you're gonna tear down the the concrete entrance monuments to the uh water template.

At least that was my fear.

Let me point out what's gonna happen here.

I'm Bill Bornman from construction.

This pole is the one that's gonna be relocated.

Apologize, I can't be out of everybody's way.

But uh the crosswalk is gonna go basically right here, perpendicular across 84.

So there's gonna be a sidewalk that comes along 84 and then a crosswalk that goes across.

You can see where the crosswalk is now, it's gonna move back towards Signal, about right where this pole is.

So that's why that pole needs to move because it's in the way of the new sidewalk and it is processed.

And but I asked why why that existing uh stop light is going to be moved to create a crosswalk 20 feet to the west of where it's at right now.

But seeing the crosswalk would be better put at the start.

Here's the here's the existing one that you guys put in at the beginning.

I guess I'm trying to figure out why we can move that what 15 feet so here tear that out and we're gonna put one here that's it's gonna so it's gonna be this pole.

So I don't know.

I I don't know how to stay out of everybody's way, but there's not that much space between the road and the pole.

So to have the sidewalk there, we need more space.

So that's why the pole can't stay where it is because the sidewalk won't physically fit with the pole where it's at now.

Wouldn't you put a sidewalk on the other side of the pole?

So you can see um well, that's not our property on your side, yeah.

That's not our property.

So I I don't actually know.

I I don't actually know how we got permission to move the pole.

I I believe that this is SFPUC property.

I don't know exactly where the right-away line is.

Ronnie's shaking her head, but I I don't know exactly where the right-way line is.

Yeah, I do not believe that we can move the sidewalk further south.

South, yeah, yeah.

I don't think we can we I don't remember if we had a we had a couple of discussions on maybe and for the very side space, the little curve at the bottom.

You can't even touch that, it's also installing, yeah.

So we have a babe, we have to end everything before that, yeah.

The sidewalk is coming right here, the guy's standing approximately ending there, and then the pole is coming in the back, then it's going to perpendicular the crosswalking depending on there.

Okay, just a crowd.

Orange screen, that's uh that's in that's supposed to protect you.

I'm not a sensitive areas, and the tree that was removed is inside that area.

So when you're saying you can't touch the curve, you are yeah, go ahead and side that area and remove that tree.

I think what K B is saying specifically is that we can't remove that curve because it's it's part of the handle the tree.

So yeah, but we move the tree.

The tree's gone.

Yeah, the tree was not a historic tree.

It was not part of the gate, it was a tree.

So the gate is the concrete structure, what was built in 1910 or whenever it was built, that tree was not planted as part of the gate construction.

I I'm not a tree expert, but it did not look like a hundred and twenty-year-old tree to make that.

So it was a relatively recent tree.

But the tree's gone.

So yeah, you know, with two agreements and the ship only and the EIR all say date and tree date and tree like what story.

So it doesn't matter whether it was 120 years old or 80 years old.

I'm not in a position to argue with you about what Shippo has to say.

I'm not a architecture exploring or whatever it is.

That's not my planning construction guy.

I'm trying to explain what we're doing as part of the permission to do that.

Gave us permission to do that.

It's like the trade, yeah.

Um, it was part of the approved plans that we had that this pole had to go back here, and the tree conflicted with the location of the pole.

I've got a more technical question.

I mean, I noticed all the all the major plan that we're going to use these uh construction.

You know, I I live on four myself.

I've watched that entirely very elaborate, very detailed.

A lot of uh studies that go into it well ahead of time.

How can this possibly overlook with the extensive reviews of that area to deal with anything to miss a foliage?

Yeah, that's an excellent question.

Yeah, um, and I will say that if our plans were perfect, I wouldn't need half of my set because that's mostly what we do is deal with conflicts and changes between what's designed on paper and what we've been building the field.

That's most of what not a lot of our job is keeping track of what's happening and paying for it, but a lot of what we do is deal with conflicts between the design and what can actually be done.

Okay, what's that following?

What's actually that the poll question is because I do know that ongoing construction, uh, you'll happen upon some unknown event, occurrence, discovery, and what is it that became a discovery with this poll versus just poor plan an oversight?

If you find a finger in the ground, we find uh something that did eroded in that area.

I mean, what was it that led to meaning to move these poles?

It couldn't figure it out.

So the the pole moving the pole was part of the plants.

That's the design that we got.

Is the design that we have for this project includes moving the pole?

So that was a design feature.

The thing that was the thing that was overlooked was the physical contrary scripture that was reviewed.

That's the problem.

Okay, so uh that's a big step back.

When you have an environmental process that you go through, when the environmental process is complete, it goes into the design phase.

Then the design is is done by our engineers, and then the when the design is completed, the project is advertised, then we get a contractor on board to build it.

So we have the environmental phase, the design phase, and the construction phase during the design phase.

This pole was moved back to so what I can tell you is this is part of our the approved plans that we have to build the back is this pole being put right here.

I can't I I can't speak to the environmental box.

I I apologize for that, but I can't I can't see yeah, but it's part of the approved plans.

That was part of the original approved plan that was originally bid for the job, or was it a change under some subsequent time?

Somebody figured out they start in the wrong place.

No, we just started.

I mean, we just started work a few months ago, so it's yeah, yeah.

We we this this is part of the approved thing.

Yeah, I because I was of the opinion that the red silo was something that was kind of changed, kind of added after the fact.

So that's what's got everybody's on is saying that it was changed, possibly from the environmental phase to the design phase, it was changed from the design phase to the construction change phase, it has not changed.

So that's the I got I get involved at the end of the design phase into the construction phase when I get involved, and it was not changed in the construction.

Or to provide some insight, right?

With the environmental document, that is a process that takes a few years that's more or less data gathering before the actual construction plan, the technical drug we're using gets put in.

So change order is something a change of the plan, being very technical to the language, and you know, minding our engineer here.

There hasn't been a change order for this.

This was part of the plan, but there's a key difference between environmental two when plants get designed.

The way that I explain it to you know my friends and family is it's uh research that we do that includes checking where the birds are and other vegetation fauna flora that goes to the environmental other technical historical parts that goes well too, and maybe you want to explain it more as a PM, what that data gathering is, and then from that information to our design team and they plan it, and it takes five to ten years, and that's why there is a huge gap from what you guys are first thought was going to happen to what's what's actually designed, and we'll answer your question.

But keep in mind, it's a legal document.

Caltrans made commitments in that legal document to protect against that if Caltrans wants to change that in the design phase, they have to go back to the state of the purpose of historic conservation and back to the community to talk to me to have some analysis of the environmental.

It's not just some fuzzy little environmental document, it's a legal document.

We'll respond to your letter when you send it.

We are sure that what we reduced in the design phase is in compliance with the economy.

That's that's what we've been assuring by our set.

I mean, that's yeah.

Oh, yeah, you need a phone people, sorry.

So from here moving forward the gate area.

Nothing's being done, it's not factor at all.

There should be nothing being done in a factor manual or any other trees in that section.

Nothing else is being done from this point forward, correct?

You understand my question.

Sidewalk stops at the curve.

Yeah, I'll just go from this point forward, nothing's being done to that area.

Sign posts will be constructed, and uh we just put that's what that's the only thing that might happen.

I'm not sure if the board is that it's no, there's not gonna be any disturbance to the reach of the gate.

Sorry, all the deep, we're not touching that.

The only thing is gonna change from what are you looking at?

This sign post is gonna come back.

Yeah, we have place it must argue the signal, the signal for this, but nothing from anywhere from that or entrance gate, but the main gate, nothing changed.

We're we're not prepared.

Well, you're trying to you're trying to set it up so you can come back later and say, look, you told us we weren't gonna do this, and I'm just making it we're not prepared to say that we don't have any plans.

We are we have no plans to mess with anything in this area.

We have no plans, you do it fall in our fact, yeah.

So why not?

And then there's a slide in where I want to give you guys my contact information to your questions.

I'm able to answer them, and then we can mean so.

We can go back to the PowerPoint.

Oh yeah, so um, can we go back to that picture again?

I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

So this the tree was was a bit balanced for this tree, and it was right seeing audience.

This this thing was on this side, this tree was on this side.

It would have been in front of you.

Yeah, it's funny.

Under fine, oh here balancing the different big trees.

You see what I'm saying?

I'm sorry, nobody's trying to set you guys up for a fall here.

We're just trying to figure out what the hell went wrong here.

We we were of the assumption that something was gonna happen, and now it's not gonna happen, and it's what it's I don't know.

I I don't know how somebody overlooked that tree.

There's lots of bigger things that get overlooked on projects than one tree.

So the fact that somebody missed the conflict between a tree and a mastarm doesn't really surprise you.

I mean that's for for what it for what it's worth there's a lot of stuff that gets missing in construction.

And there's a lot of people in this room that have got a lot of history working with Caltrans in the canyon and it it from personal experience it has been one pile of steaming manure after another as you go to these meetings and promises are made and then oh my gosh we did that beg for forgiveness and I'm not suggesting that's what you guys are trying to do here but there's there's history that at least from my we we understand trying to resolve and it it's kind of coming across from what I was able to read in Tommy's letter and she's a pretty meticulous person about research reading the letter it's almost like that's what's going on it's like we had a we had a deal to do this we just went ahead and did that for whatever reason please forgive us so I I advised Hector not to address the concerns in the letter during this meeting so I'm going to go against what I advised Hector we've talked to Shippo Shippo has told us that what we're doing is okay.

So that's probably what the response letter is going to get says it'll be wordier than that but that's probably what I'm saying.

So I've got a question from the just mentioned that besides moving this there's no additional changes to the plan that are expected to happen but I think we're also establishing here that we are not current point so how are we to have any context of what that comment means when obviously between this design phase and the environmental phase we changed the street place that did not get back to we were amongst ourselves obviously a plan will we have the scene I mean we can give you the plan but I mean what I'm saying you can't you can't they're available online yeah anybody can download the plan the the the reason why I was hesitating is I I've been doing construction on Caltrans projects for a long time and I'm gonna say that the plans are not easy to understand and that's that's my that that's my position as an engineer who's been doing this for a long time the plans are not easy to understand somebody who's not familiar with looking at our plans it's gonna be really hard to understand so I mean he and and look I'm not saying if if somebody's an engineer or whatever and you have experience with plans it's still not super right but but we can give you the plans yeah but we would like we would like to have the opportunity to start studying plans before the 11th hour you know we're well it's a it's probably the 14th hour I mean probably it's I mean but if if 12 was the limit we're probably a 14 but we're not the ones that set up right and we're not the ones that turn clock forward so the inconvenience do not fall upon us the intervenience should fall upon those that change the plans we did not make notice that we would go review those plans to the best of their ability no that's been taken away from that doesn't sound like a good part of the button yeah I would agree I mean you may be just following the plans I'm more interested in we changed plans made plans and we're getting really what they are what I tested what I what I will say is that when we when we work on a design we believe that what we're doing is important to be final we don't we do we believe that what we're doing is important.

We do not intentionally deviate when we may inadvertently be project but I I mean it would be it's it's not malpractice anything for an engineer but it would be the equivalent of malpractice for us to do something that's different than what was if we can and I've never seen I've never seen that since I think the question falls into places to in respect to Bill and engineers and too bad the deputy with his jokes but what is the difference between uh how many engineers have to take the light bulb one because they're efficient and not that fun because they follow you tell them have me here they'll have me here so you're being very technical on the answers but I think what you guys want to know we can come back to you guys after on where we believe the environmental documents of what plan could be your voice of what if I'm hearing that correctly that is anything so that's in the way I mean I I I read the letter yesterday sent it I read the letter and you know I I can't I can't respond to the ship of stuff and you know why they're not applying that's that's out of my um out of my it's not something that I have the ability to respond to but I can I can say like I like I did a couple years I've never seen us

So I mean, I I read the letter yesterday sent it.

I read the letter, and you know, I I can't I can't respond to the shipboard stuff, and you know, required they not apply that's that's out of my um out of my email.

I think it's not something that I have the ability to respond to, but I I can't say like I like I did a problem.

I've never seen us all entirely so I'm gonna find it.

If something's not important to be finite documents, it's much more likely to somebody else.

Yeah, I I can expect that.

I'm I'm more interested in what's the what is currently fine.

Apparently, we I mean, why even have us read an evolved way back when in the very beginning if like that decision and everything?

So what I can yeah, so Jackie.

Um let's just leave Jas.

Um so what I what I can say is um we press my phone apologize.

Oh thank you.

We uh um if we did the phone distracting, if we didn't explain something during the design phase, that was probably because somebody didn't think we were changing something important.

That that's how that's how I interpret it.

If somebody thought that they were making an important or significant change, they would have circled back in on that.

Do you understand if this is an important change now?

I understand that's your opinion.

Yes, I understand.

That is the two pieces of you were well, yeah.

I understand.

Well you know, I'm just reacting to what I see on the ground, not on the plans on the ground here in this picture.

One is this is if you go to uh like uh where the mountain house or any block any place like the rational street design, there'd be a roundabout.

No, but and then secondly, no way if you if you had not if you had uh not correct if you look at this signals, uh traffic signal right there.

It seems like track uh Calcans has this mentality of oh, you know, for symmetry and logic, we just throw in traffic signals everywhere.

But if that thing were red, people you would expect them to stop.

Where would they stop?

I mean, they'd be stopping back here, and they can't see it from here, and they can't see it from here.

So, who is the red for?

Because it's for nobody, and if somebody saw it at the last minute, they're not supposed to stop there.

It's insane to put a traffic light here because traffic lights are very directional.

You're not putting traffic lights for traffic off on this side or from this side.

The traffic light is for traffic that's coming in straight in, like this, straight in, and there is no traffic that's coming straight in.

You put in a whole traffic light for no reason.

Uh I can ask the bag.

Uh, when these baby lights are and we have to bag, I'll have a couple of questions from Sonora on the lights, also, and also from the SFC to people who were coming from the water standpoint.

We had to come back several times to adjust the timing and the lights uh in this area.

So it took a lot of integrations to be where we are right now.

So as so the this light system setup was not uh not just done like one time.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, but that's how much space would be having the next round about.

Let's move to the next one.

And then before you guys leave, I have a QR code so you guys can sign up to get my notification.

That was the big slide that I want to get you guys.

If you guys don't mind set up, okay, perfect.

Uh so there are some upcoming closures and uh that will be coming up for the most part.

All the work is happening daytime with very minimal main closures.

I I tend not to notify those because those happen more if a vehicle and safety reasons, which are the construction sites and happen between one and two hours, and the contractors are aware not to do it during two times.

But if they are going to be night work and an eventual full closure, that is planned more of course in September.

And I'll give you guys a notification of a couple of weeks in advance notice.

I'll send it to anybody that signs up to next slide, please.

To for updates, I created a very project specific just for this project.

If you want to know more about Alameda County, send me an email and I'll add you to that bigger list.

But just for Sunol, um, just because seeing the history we have it's a null, I want to make sure that we do uh email lists just for projects around this area.

So you might get some six right one right one.

So you might get some things around 680.

If we have any paving work, I know we have something coming up at Scott's Turner and 680, so I'll include you on that, but most of it will be very project specific.

And on the left side will be the pro is the project website where I'm posting all those advisories as well.

Um, those planned that are available on our website, but I can link them if the community would find them useful to be on the project website.

And if you guys ever see NASPEL, it's just a map with a bunch of lines and numbers, but you have more than welcome to see those.

So they'll be posted on the website.

There is my email address.

So any questions or concerns you want to talk to me directly, just send me an email and I'll respond to you uh within the day.

I mean, you do have closures.

Could you make sure that uh need to assign this five?

And correct.

Okay, it's involved, and uh I don't know how to go on it because I live here, but I can't imagine kind of following the side we're not very complicated.

Uh I think it has been uh brought up on the request on that one that they have more in wood.

So um originally you're bringing a close or a weekend if I just is that no longer the case?

It's getting the session and I school for September.

Um it's the possibility, but uh it's uh other possibility we may not even use it.

It's a uh depending on as much traffic mitigation as we can.

So if we can avoid the 55 hour closure, we'll avoid it.

But if we are going to have it, you'll receive another thing for me as soon as I know I'm sending up.

So we're working with the contractor to figure out how uh right now we have a pretty um tough access issue into the creek, and part of part of the job is to set beams once the new bridge supports are built, and we're trying to figure out how to set those beams, and if we can do it without a 55 hour closure, that's one of the things that we're looking for is to try and do that without a 55 hour closure.

So 55 hours for Friday night.

I requested that you not close on the weekend of October 27.

Yeah, I'm hoping you still have that on the list.

Um October 22nd is on this 27.

Yeah, we're looking at September, but we can add I we talked about a weekend that was uh who did you request that we want?

I'm sure he's got it.

But I I recommend like I am your advocate at these construction meetings, like in all respect to our engineers and project managers, their focus on the dirt in the bullets.

My my job is to be more of a community leaders on to hear the concerns, get these dates and be that voice in these meetings.

So again, my email address is there.

Any questions or concerns, please send them over to me.

And uh from an email I can answer to this to you, Todd.

We can I can promise to meet once a month where we give you a construction update.

So it can be with this book right here.

Uh instead of driving all the way well for these meetings, we can give you more or less informal formal with our construction teams, so uh what's going on day to day, and we can get some pictures to guess for the most part building a bridge, but uh they do take some full pictures, and we can give you a little bit of insight of what might be coming with for the formal advice.

So get this straight.

So right now, you're not sure if the August 22nd is the date, the weekend that can be frozen.

Uh if you ask us not to close it, yeah.

I'll be that voice.

I'm gonna echo it again in our meeting.

Yeah, I mean, I would think you'd know by now.

Yeah, we can yeah, we would we would work around that.

Oh, we can put this meeting with the training that I could uh possibilities in September.

Yeah, okay, okay.

And before we do journal, I still wanted to get an answer on what is the anticipated date of uh dealing with this full is that schedule again.

I know it's not in the three-week ahead schedule.

It it's I have not looked at the overall schedule, but while we have traffic in the current configuration, you can't uh the slides are gone.

But while traffic's in the current configuration, you can't really build the sidewalk, so there's no reason to move out.

So I wouldn't not this even I don't expect it to see.

I mean, we can we can check on.

I mean, we can we can check on when that shows in the schedule.

Um we're analyzing uh a pretty significant potential change to the schedule.

So it even if it even what it shows in the schedule now could change.

There's there's some pretty big um photos for what the contractor has not even really proposed, but just mentioned as an option.

So um it's possible that the schedule would change, but I still don't see that happening before the next season.

Okay, so I sorry for all the additional questions as we came up.

The tree that was removed.

Um what was what was it causing the struction to curve now?

Probably nothing.

So what prompted it to be because the contractors the contractor likes to come in and do their clearing all at once because it costs them money to bring the subcontractor in again and again and again, so they come in and they do the query for the whole job at once, typically is there a um is there a nine one sort of number for Cal France that communities member of one of us on the board uh is learning to something that we feel is not correct, like the university and bird while it is so that that's what happened with the trees by the school, I think.

Um and I I mean our resident engineer, I think it's been pretty responsive to people.

Um but Hector should buy one.

No, 421, he should be four zero.

He should be the main point of contract.

So seem like a nice uh seem like a nice person, also I gotta say on the conference call and you get I think it's your boss, Harold.

My big boss, yeah.

What's the last name again?

Chambers, Jeremy Chambers threatened me for bringing those if you want who said that I was delaying the project, and if I to continued if they were going to stop the whole bridge project, I think oh we got the stage in the last couple of weeks.

It was on vacation, it was but how can we trust public information with your own boss, the person who's like kind of public information office?

So Cheryl Cheryl reports to the district director, um which means three or four levels above Hector Big Picture, um day to day.

So I'm the one that attends these meetings that is talking with construction uh guys are out there, so I'm able to read uh more of a sweeping wheel, as you call it.

Uh as you go, as you guys know, of any job in any managers and manager they give them broader, I can be a sweeping wheel for y'all.

But uh promises made, I'm just all I can promise is to do my best to echo the concerns and make sure that I'm getting advocating when we have our construction meetings, and then we have other meetings related to the project, and then I can promise to meet with you once a month to go over what has been done and what will be coming up.

And perhaps uh put the word out that Snow has really don't like that.

Fair enough.

Um, but yeah, so you you have my my phone number, it's a textable number as well, too.

So feel free if I don't pick up to send me a text message.

If I don't respond within the day, I may be on vacation.

I might have run out of hours for the last three weeks, but you can always email me and see who the next point of contact is.

But for the most part, till this project is this season is done, I'll be here and save to the public as well.

Can any of the members of inviting these meetings?

This meeting is gonna originally just gonna be meeting pony in our construction team.

You guys are welcome to attend.

So it's no more than two because there are three of us.

Yeah, then this for coming.

Yeah, this is because uh product the whole issue with the OAP community advisory board, yeah.

But you can always put that here too.

We can we've been too I'd rather go first.

Oh and by the way, what do you I mean the agendas have to be posted seventy two hours in advance?

So to accommodate your late request, we had to cancel the regular meeting and post a special that's my apologies.

I thought we were already invited in agenda.

That's why I if you guys don't mind, make sure you copy me at all times because I'm the one that worked on, but today we don't look at I wasn't making assembly and then I'll leave uh over there my business cards if you guys didn't get my email as well too for anybody that might want to contact me.

And again, more than just this project, we have a lot more going on now in the county.

Thanks a lot for your question.

Um the creed is really taken out for no reason at all.

Was there a chance we can make it right?

Can't say there was no reason at all.

Bill explained as part of the plan though, that was the clearest legitimation was going to happen.

Anything happening afterwards, all we can do is describe to send that letter and let's see what a response has.

Let me try and respond to that.

So one of one of the things that I brought up for the school if some of the trees that we trimmed die, then we would look into planting new trees, but with this tree by the gates, we were directed not to remove the stump because there was the potential that that would damage the gates.

So if we can't remove the stump, I don't think that we could plant another tree there.

So that that was I mean that that was one of the things that I thought about as a mitigation.

Um there's the that's the the biggest issue that I see is a potential to damage the gate.

The secondary issue is if we plant another tree there, it could eventually obscure the signals.

So there's there's there's two issues.

I don't see it obscuring the signals myself.

I don't see it all the mass arm is going right over the tape, so it's really gonna impact the basics.

That's why the tree was that's why the tree is in yeah, that's why the tree is okay.

Okay, let's move on.

Okay.

Yeah, so I'm trying to right.

Everybody got a jumping.

Oh, yes, and then that's right.

And uh there's only two of those.

Yeah, you can money on that.

Okay, I I didn't I didn't get at the first and the second.

Oh, who did the you made the motion?

Okay.

For approval of uh June 17 minutes, uh council member Connett Council Member Harrison.

Council member McLean.

Council member start, Chair DeGrange.

Motion passed.

Thank you.