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Second 2025 Budget Hearing: Community College of Allegheny County and Court of Common Pleas (October 28, 2024)

County CouncilMonday, October 28, 2024
BodyAllegheny County, Pennsylvania
SessionCounty Council
DateMonday, October 28, 2024
StatusFILED
Video Record
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Transcript — Verbatim
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Oh, you see that so badly farms.

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That's very important.

0:24

Okay.

0:26

Yes, we all have that stuff.

0:42

Yeah.

0:44

Good evening.

0:45

This will be our second of our 2025 budget hearing.

0:49

Uh sir.

0:49

Can I please call the order to uh the members and the ones on the phone?

0:58

Mr.

0:58

Palmer, Ms.

0:59

Brittany and all the time, the difference, Ms.

1:02

Capis, and Mr.

1:03

Walton.

1:04

You also have Ms.

1:05

Howland or the Mr.

1:07

Who's the third person?

1:14

Thank you.

1:15

Good evening, everyone, and welcome.

1:17

This is the second of three public hearings on the county's 2025 budget.

1:21

This evening we'll be hearing from the community college of Allegheny County and a court of common please fifth judicial regarding their proposed budget for 2025.

1:30

Public comment will be received by council before the invited guests make their presentation and answer council's questions.

1:36

Public comments will be limited to three minutes.

1:39

Please be respectful as everyone else speaks and observe all time limitations.

1:43

With that, Sarah, please name the public commentators.

1:58

Welcome.

2:00

Thank you.

2:02

Get your fusion get your flu shot and vote, everyone.

2:05

Thank you for moving the public comment to the start.

2:07

Should be the standard for all public hearings.

2:10

We must not have a millage increase.

2:12

High taxes kill a community's potential.

2:14

People cannot afford a 50% increase.

2:17

We should be reassessing value and cutting the millage and the spending.

2:21

For one, we can relieve the burden on council by separating major departments, Mr.

2:26

Chair, uh, with their own dedicated uh source of funding while still under your control.

2:30

New ideas for a new Allegheny.

2:32

Uh put it to a vote of the public.

2:34

Real Democrats show vision without raising the main taxes.

2:38

We were already losing this election.

2:39

The executive made it worse.

2:41

This is a hundred and sixty million dollar emergency and failure caused by you, not the executive.

2:46

This is political corruption.

2:48

What is leadership in public budgeting?

2:50

What is the value of the public dollar?

2:52

It's not your money, so you're reckless with ours.

2:55

Simply put, we need to cut all non-critical spending, Mr.

2:58

Chair.

2:59

Each public dollar is precious.

3:01

We deserve employees with a servant's heart.

3:03

Every leader says their people are the best.

3:05

So prove it.

3:06

Every department, including y'all's, can be cut.

3:09

Every contract reviewed.

3:10

Why do we budget for five to uh 6500 that uh 5,000 to 6500 employees when we know that creates insane labor costs?

3:19

Why do we give private sector compensation packages?

3:22

Public service can't compete, freeze hiring, cut all administrative jobs, limit salaries.

3:27

Nobody in this county deserves more than a hundred K base.

3:31

Cut hours, eliminate overtime where possible, cut benefits.

3:34

No public servant is entitled to health care or a pension.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Education████████████████████████████████████36%
Court Operations█████████████████████████25%
Budget█████████████13%
Public Engagement███████7%
Public Comment█████5%
Juvenile Justice█████5%
Miscellaneous████4%
Public Health██2%
Workforce Development1%
Summary of Proceedings

Second 2025 Budget Hearing: Community College of Allegheny County and Court of Common Pleas (October 28, 2024)

This hearing, held on October 28, 2024, was the second of three public hearings on Allegheny County's 2025 budget. The county council received presentations and testimony on the proposed budgets for the Community College of Allegheny County (CCAC) and the Court of Common Pleas (Fifth Judicial District). Public comment was taken at the beginning and again after the CCAC presentation.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • First public commenter (name not given) strongly opposed a millage increase, stating "high taxes kill a community's potential" and called for massive spending cuts, including freezing hiring, limiting salaries to $100,000, cutting benefits, and reviewing all contracts. He questioned the role of county government in CCAC, the health department, and the jail, and argued that austerity is necessary before discussing new revenue.
  • Bernard Up Mosey (Beach View) advocated taxing the top five non-profit organizations (UPMC, AGH, universities) that own over 47% of tax-exempt property, calling for a 50% tax on them. He also criticized the county executive and voted for council member Sarah but felt she had changed. He raised concerns about voting machines and hospital patients being denied the right to vote.
  • A later public commenter (name not given) spoke about the Health Department budget, urging the council to increase permit fees on U.S. Steel to make the air program self-sustaining. He noted U.S. Steel spent $1.6 million on lobbying in 2024 (including $420,000 in the last quarter), while a fee increase of $50,000 per facility would cost the company only about $150,000 total. He argued the fight is about control, not money.

Discussion Items

  • Community College of Allegheny County (CCAC): President Dr. Bullock and Vice President Connie Dyer presented the budget. Key points:
    • CCAC's mission is to provide affordable access to quality education. For every dollar spent, students gain $4.70, taxpayers gain $2.50, and society gains $9.50.
    • Student demographics: 54% women, 46% men; 67% part-time; 37% ethnic minority; 79% graduate debt-free; 82% of graduates live and work in the region.
    • Enrollment is recovering post-pandemic; fall 2024 headcount was 10,522 (down 0.37% from goal), with 23.4% of goal reached for full-time equivalents.
    • Operating budget for 2024-25 is $114.986 million (7.2% increase over 2023-24), plus $9.714 million capital. County contribution requested is $35.3 million (13.6% increase from $31.1 million). CCAC remains the lowest-cost community college in Pennsylvania at $1,890 per semester for full-time in-county tuition.
    • They described various workforce development programs, including nursing (100% NCLEX pass rate), CDL, paramedic, fire vest (498 volunteer firefighters received scholarships), and a new culinary institute and robotics lab at the Center for Education, Innovation and Training.
    • In response to council questions: CCAC did not budget for a 46% property tax increase; they were not asked to propose cuts. If county funding were reduced by 10%, they would need to review programs and personnel. They do not consider their budget wasteful. Asked about tuition increases, Dr. Bullock stressed the importance of keeping tuition low for low-income families. CCAC's original request was higher than the $35.3 million proposed, but they did not specify the exact amount.
  • Court of Common Pleas (Fifth Judicial District): President Judge Susan Abbaswitch presented the court's budget, covering civil, criminal, family, and orphans court divisions, as well as magisterial district courts. Key points:
    • The court employs over 1,100 people and operates 46 magisterial district courts plus Pittsburgh Municipal Court (open 24/7).
    • Civil division: 5,822 new general docket cases, 8,025 arbitration cases, 3,974 tax assessment appeals, ~1,900 landlord-tenant cases. A new help desk for landlord-tenant cases is opening early 2025.
    • Criminal division: 26% of cases resolved on expedited docket, 19% via ARD, 45% via trial or specialty courts (drug, DUI, mental health, veterans, etc.). Specialty courts reduce recidivism. Probation supervises 15,625 individuals; electronic monitoring averages 715 people (87% increase over last year). Walk-in reinstatement for warrants avoided jail time.
    • Family division: Collected $77.5 million in child support (January-September 2024); 4,290 support filings; 5,741 temporary PFA petitions; 1,754 divorces; juvenile handled 513 dependency cases and 1,047 active probation cases.
    • The court requested $103,269,018 but received $97,377,070 (about $5.9 million less), a 4.1% increase over last year. They described efforts to cut costs (e.g., reducing staff from 7 to 5 in one department, building an in-house interpreter application).
    • President Judge stated that a 10% cut would be "catastrophic," requiring personnel reductions that would create case backlogs. They need more beds at Shuman Juvenile Detention Center; two pods are expected to open in early 2026. The potential sale of the municipal court building would disrupt operations and increase costs for all city justice partners.
    • Council members praised the court's diversion programs and focus on connection over punishment.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken during this hearing. The council received testimony and will use the information to inform budget decisions. CCAC's budget request for $35.3 million in county funding is under consideration; the court's approved amount is $97.4 million. Further hearings are scheduled, and council members emphasized that while they want to support education and the courts, they face a difficult budget situation with a proposed 46.5% property tax increase from the county executive.

Meeting Transcript

Oh, you see that so badly farms. That's very important. Okay. Yes, we all have that stuff. Yeah. Good evening. This will be our second of our 2025 budget hearing. Uh sir. Can I please call the order to uh the members and the ones on the phone? Mr. Palmer, Ms. Brittany and all the time, the difference, Ms. Capis, and Mr. Walton. You also have Ms. Howland or the Mr. Who's the third person? Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and welcome. This is the second of three public hearings on the county's 2025 budget. This evening we'll be hearing from the community college of Allegheny County and a court of common please fifth judicial regarding their proposed budget for 2025. Public comment will be received by council before the invited guests make their presentation and answer council's questions. Public comments will be limited to three minutes. Please be respectful as everyone else speaks and observe all time limitations. With that, Sarah, please name the public commentators. Welcome. Thank you. Get your fusion get your flu shot and vote, everyone. Thank you for moving the public comment to the start. Should be the standard for all public hearings. We must not have a millage increase. High taxes kill a community's potential. People cannot afford a 50% increase. We should be reassessing value and cutting the millage and the spending. For one, we can relieve the burden on council by separating major departments, Mr. Chair, uh, with their own dedicated uh source of funding while still under your control. New ideas for a new Allegheny. Uh put it to a vote of the public. Real Democrats show vision without raising the main taxes. We were already losing this election. The executive made it worse. This is a hundred and sixty million dollar emergency and failure caused by you, not the executive. This is political corruption. What is leadership in public budgeting? What is the value of the public dollar? It's not your money, so you're reckless with ours. Simply put, we need to cut all non-critical spending, Mr. Chair. Each public dollar is precious. We deserve employees with a servant's heart.

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