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Miami Beach City Commission Meeting - September 17, 2025

City Commission MeetingsWednesday, September 17, 2025
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DateWednesday, September 17, 2025
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6:17

Welcome to the City of Miami Beach Commission Chambers.

6:20

We're glad to have you with us today.

6:23

If you require ADA assistance or accommodations, please notify the city clerk or any staff member, and we will be happy to assist you.

6:38

Mayor Steven Miner.

6:48

City Commissioners, Kristen Rosen Gonzalez.

6:59

Laura Dominguez.

7:09

Alex J.

7:10

Fernandez.

7:19

Tanya K.

7:20

Bott, David Suarez.

7:39

Joseph Magazine.

8:26

Lobbyist Disclosure Reminder.

8:28

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8:36

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8:40

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8:41

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9:03

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17:45

Good morning, and welcome to our commission meeting of today, September seventeenth.

17:50

Thank you to my colleagues who are here, all our residents and guests who are in the chambers and obviously watching.

17:57

Ralph, any instructions?

17:59

Yes, sir.

18:00

Thank you.

18:00

Good morning, everyone.

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During this hybrid commission meeting, the city commission is physically present in the commission chambers at Miami Beach City Hall, seventeen hundred, conventional center drive, third floor.

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19:08

Thank you, Mayor.

19:09

Thank you.

19:10

We're going to do the Pledge of Allegiance.

20:00

I think our whole country was horrified, no matter what side of the aisle anyone is on, the violence that we're seeing in our country against political figures, against political speech, the senseless violence, it's disgusting.

20:13

It has to end.

20:14

We can't continue as a country like this if we can't have an open and respectful dialogue, no matter how much we may disagree.

20:21

And just the rhetoric, the division is is it's it's so it's so disgusting to me.

20:29

I've I've always prided myself of staying positive, talking about the issues, and and I think I'm asking that we all, and not just here on my beach, but all of us in this country need to do the same.

20:41

We're not gonna be a better country from violence.

20:43

It's gonna destroy us.

20:45

So anyone who has that intent is just woefully wrong.

20:49

So I ask us to just do a moment of silence in memory of Charlie Kirk.

21:26

Thank you.

21:28

We do have a special guest with us today.

21:31

Um the widow of David Schachter, a man who is uh recently we lost, and we lost the giant.

21:40

He was a Holocaust survivor, but that doesn't even do justice to who he was as a person, to the message he brought.

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I mean he lived through evil, lived through hell, yet brought such a positive message of good to the world and showed that good will always prevail over evil.

22:03

And I know I'm co-priming with uh my colleague Commissioner Suarez, um, and I'd like to think it's important that we recognize him and show a uh and all of us together show uh a short video.

22:21

My name is David Shachter.

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I'm ninety-five years old, a proud American and a proud Jew, and a survivor of two Nazi concentration camps.

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I'm a witness to the greatest act of anti-Semitism, where six million Jews were killed for no other reason other than being a Jew.

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I am here reminding everyone that there is still thousands of survivors alive today, who are in desperate need and who cannot be forgotten.

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My name is David Schachter.

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I'm a Holocaust survivor, and also the guy who created the Holocaust Memorial on Miami Beach.

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I uh would like to thank the uh Miami Beach Commissioners, and thank you for caring.

23:33

Thank you for noting for the anti-Semitic behavior that hadn't be fallen on our community, and you are concerned about it, and this really gives us hope, and I am uh very much aware, but our children are being very much affected, and they are as innocent as uh as innocent can mean and they are the mean and excluded, and of course you who commissioners are very much aware of it, and I want to thank you for it.

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I want you to continue it.

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I want you to try and stop this ugliness of anti-Semitism, this poisonous children's minds, and then the means of my people, and especially Jewish children.

24:43

I am very much grateful that thanking God that the community of Miami, Miami Beach, has not lost their humanity, and please keep on doing what you stand about.

25:00

And please keep on doing what you stand about.

25:15

I'd like to say a few things, Mr.

25:17

Mayor.

25:37

As many of you know, I along with the mayor and the city.

25:44

Was just sued by the anti-Jewish hate group, Jewish Voices for Peace.

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And their lawsuit.

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They aired a series of grievances against us that had nothing to do with the law.

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They're allegedly challenging.

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Instead, they attacked us for acts of compassion and solidarity.

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For donating an ambulance and sending firefighters to help with the injured in Israel.

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For declaring our friendship with the Israeli people, and for passing a resolution opposing anti-Semitic BDS movement.

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On today's agenda, we will be expanding that resolution.

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Because our city will never back down in the face of anti-Semitism.

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David Schachter understood the struggle.

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He understood it because he lived through the ultimate expression of hate.

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Nearly six million Jews were murdered in killing sinners such as Auschwitz, primarily in gas chambers.

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David was almost one of them.

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At age eleven, he was taken to Auschwitz against all odds he survived.

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He went on to build a family and a life of meaning in Miami.

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First with his wife Marvis, with whom he shared 53 years, and later with his beloved wife, second beloved wife Sidney, who is here today honoring us with his legacy.

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As David said shortly before his passing, we need to gain our humanity back.

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His words are as true today as ever.

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In this moment, when hate and vitriol are again spreading across the world.

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And ensuring that never again.

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So they could carry his story forward when he no longer could.

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And even at ninety-five years old.

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He was still speaking out, testifying before the United States of Congress on April 30th of this year.

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To remind the world that survivors are still with us, still in need, and that anti-Semitism remains a deadly threat.

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That is why our resolution declares April 30th as David Shachter Day in the city of Mayan Beach to honor that moment of courage and sure his message continues to echo through time.

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And I would see my neighbors, most of them elderly.

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I was a little boy going in the elevator, and I would see my neighbors, most of them elderly, and a lot of them had the tattoos from the concentration camps, and it's really sad.

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That one day we're not gonna be with any of these survivors and I fear for the future because those survivors are not going to be here to remind us of what can be done to humanity.

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So it's important that we all remember meaning.

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Thank you, Ms.

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Mayer.

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Mr.

31:08

Shacht, do you want to say something?

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I want to thank all of you for honoring David's memory, and I promise you his voice will continue to be strong, and his light will still be inside me, and all of us who knew him.

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I every person he met was touched by him at his funeral on September 7th.

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There were 50 children there from the Young Lions.

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Some of them are in college now, and their parents flew them in.

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A cantor and seven different rabbis came to his bedside.

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He was still coherent, and they all said, David, we're gonna continue to tell your story.

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You can rest in peace.

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So there's countless people that he has touched, and his voice will still be loud.

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I just miss him so much, but I'm so grateful to you for honoring him this way.

32:20

Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And thank you to the students of Hebrew Academy who took their time out from class to be here today.

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I'm gonna ask uh Rabbi Daniel Hadar from Temple Moses in North Beach to give our invocation this morning behalf of our great mayor, commissioners.

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At a time when the world is attempting to silence voices, at a time when it's the Jewish New Year and the beginning of the year for everybody for all the schools and for those that are starting off when it's a time to speak.

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We're gonna take a moment to just remember that our words are important, our words have power, our words have the opportunity to inspire, to uplift, to help others grow.

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And today we, as God to give us the power, the knowledge and the fruitity to help us use our words to share beautiful things to share with each other, to uplift each other, and may God bless you and the whole commission to continue to uplift, to continue to help the community grow, and they continue to use your words to inspire in this world.

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Amen.

33:42

Thank you, Rabbi Hadar, and really you're representing today all our faith leaders in Miami Beach.

33:48

Uh and so thank you, and thank you for all you do to bring people together, bring community together.

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What you've done, and and other faith leaders of Tampa would I would I personally witness what you've done since you came here permanently in Miami Beach and building a North Beach community and your and your synagogue is is beyond tremendous.

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Okay, we're gonna have the open forum of Sutton now.

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Good morning, everyone who is interested in speaking.

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Please stand in line if you're able to.

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And we're gonna go from the podium to Zoom.

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So, sir.

34:25

Go ahead.

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You have two minutes.

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State your name and address.

34:28

My name is Ken Barnes.

34:30

I live in North Miami, and I'm a member of Jewish and live uh work with Jewish Voice for Pea.

34:37

Charlie Kirk.

34:38

I abhor that he was shot.

34:39

I abhor political violence.

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There being no place for that in a civilized society.

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However, using his memory as a weapon to stifle free speech is unconscionable.

34:52

To venerate this man as David Brasuarez has proposed crosses the line.

34:57

I will let Kirk's own words speak for him.

35:00

Charlie Kirk was an anti-Semite, saying Jewish people control, quote, not just the colleges, it's the nonprofits.

35:08

It's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.

35:11

Continuing.

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The number one funding mechanism of radical open border neoliberal cultural institutions is Jewish donors.

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Charlie Kirk and LGBT rights.

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Lashing out at a gay community.

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He denounced the LGBT agenda.

35:29

Opposing gay marriage, he suggested the Bible verse, Leviticus 2013, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as quote God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.

35:43

Charlie Kirk on black people.

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Prowling blacks go around for fun to go target white people.

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Or if I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified.

35:55

Changing subjects.

35:57

Boycott boycott defensemen and sanctions.

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A resolution the city would no longer award contracts to businesses or organization that boycott, investor sanction doing business with Israel.

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Two days ago, the United Nations Commission found that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

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BDS is a Palestinian-led movement for freedom, justice, equality, and humanity.

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How can anyone with a conscience watch what is happening in Gaza without feeling deep compassion for the close to 70,000 Palestinians who have died, their land reduced to rubble?

36:37

Thank you, sir.

36:38

Our next public speaker is via Zoom.

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The name, the screen name is Glenn.

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Glenn, state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

36:45

Go ahead, Glenn.

36:48

Yes, good morning, everyone.

36:51

I want to talk a bit.

36:53

The State Attorney General, James Uttmeyer, said on Monday that members of law enforcement in Florida should no longer arrest or prosecute people for openly carrying firearms in public spaces, places.

37:10

This includes the what they call constitutional carry.

37:16

In other words, I, as a resident of Florida, can come down to Miami Beach with the M16 around my shoulder.

37:26

How is this going to affect our next spring break?

37:32

This is my concern.

37:35

If someone could answer this when I hang up, that would be great.

37:40

And also just talking about all the hate in the world on both sides and everything.

37:47

We need to come together.

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All the Jews need to come together.

37:52

My family lost people in the Holocaust.

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And I'm tired of this killing on both sides.

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It must stop.

38:03

Thank you.

38:04

Please, if you can answer my question on the uh open carry, I would appreciate it.

38:10

Thank you.

38:11

Thank you.

38:11

Sir, go ahead, say your name, address.

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I have two minutes.

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Good morning, Mr.

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Mayor, Commissioners.

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My name is Joseph Sabag.

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I'm here on behalf of the National Jewish Advocacy Center.

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I want to congratulate you.

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Miami Beach has certainly become the leading city in the United States working to combat anti-Semitism.

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I think the most appropriate thing that you can do today to honor, I think the most appropriate thing that you can do today to honor the memory of David Schachter is to pass this very strong ordinance that's being considered that would do just that, combat anti-Semitism.

38:42

That ordinance is based on a bill that Governor DeSantis really signed, uh, recently signed into law in June, S17, uh, excuse me, 1678.

38:52

Um, I want to just make three points about what this bill does, what this bill does not do, and who exactly is opposing this.

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Number one, this bill is about good governance.

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The government has every right to regulate and place conditions upon the expenditure of taxpayer dollars in order to reinforce public policy.

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That's a well-established fact of law that's been considered and settled by the United States Supreme Court.

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It is within absolutely the right of this commission to pass this ordinance.

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Number two, what this ordinance will not do is affect free speech.

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Anyone who hates Israel or hates Jews has every right to go ahead and express their point of view.

39:30

What they don't have a right to suggest is that they have a fundamental right to receiving any funding or sponsorship from this city.

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And they don't have a right to suggest that the city is constitutionally obligated to hand them a microphone as they go around and spread their hate.

39:46

Lastly, just speaking to the point of Jewish voices for peace, which we all read last week in the media, they're now suing this city, they're suing Maynard Mayor Minor in his personal capacity, they're suing Commissioner Suarez in his personal capacity.

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This is a hate group.

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It is recognized from right all the way to the left-wing ADL that Jewish Voice for Peace is an anti-Semitic hate group.

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I would urge anybody who's paying attention to this debate simply to go onto the Anti-Defamation League's website.

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Thank you.

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Take a look at the dossier about Jewish Voices for Peace and understand who is seeking to oppose this city and this ordinance.

40:23

Thank you.

40:24

Our next public speaker is via Zoom, Johan Moore.

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Please state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

40:34

Mr.

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Moore, go ahead, unmute yourself, please.

40:39

Good morning, Johan Moore, 717 Jefferson Avenue.

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The hypocrisy of certain members of the Commission is striking, and the hypocrisy of the Commission, if it passes this legislation, will be even more striking and defensive.

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It is Zionism, which is the hate group.

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And for this commission to continue to fund the Zionist genocide against the Palestinian people is an outrage.

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The Shoah was wrong, and because the Shoah was wrong, the ongoing Nakba is wrong.

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And just because it is fascist Jews who engage in that genocide doesn't make it any more justifiable.

41:21

Thank you.

41:22

Yeah, well, I ms we've I I let Mr.

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Moore speak.

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He had his free speech, but I get my free speech.

41:29

Uh as we all know, Mr.

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Moore has been censured by this commission for glorifying violence against Jews in Israel.

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We've seen it in emails over and over again.

41:39

Uh I don't think I need to say more.

41:41

I mean, there's a whole history here.

41:43

But Israel moved, left Gaza 20 years ago.

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They removed forcibly the remaining few thousand Jews that were in Gaza.

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Hamas has ruled Gaza for 20 years, and they chose to use war and tunnels instead of building what could have been a beautiful coastal city.

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Look at the map of Gaza.

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It looks in many ways from a map, it could be Miami Beach with hotels.

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And it used to be, by the way.

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It used to be.

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And days ago, when Egypt controlled it before Israel won it in a defense of war.

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It's hard to listen to it.

42:20

We listened to it, but I just wanted to point these things out.

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Mr.

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Mayor.

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I would like to remind the audience of the last person who spoke.

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I think it's important because when we do say words matter, it's and people like that are actually members of our society.

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I I think it's important to call them out.

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Uh Johan Moore stated to all of us on the commission.

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My husband joins me in congratulating Iran on its successful missile strikes against the genocidal regime.

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I urge Iran to nuke Zionist-held population centers.

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Dirty bombs, sufficing if fission warheads aren't yet ready to pursue the defeat of the occupational regime.

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That was the last person that spoke.

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So for anyone here, and and you kids from Hebrew Academy.

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I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

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But there are people out there who want you dead.

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They want to kill you simply because you are Jewish.

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It happened to David Schachter.

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It happened to the six million Jews.

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It's happening today.

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So don't close your eyes, don't put your head in the sand and realize that there are sick people out there, like Johan Moore, who just called in.

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Nothing to be happy than to watch you guys die.

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So it's very important.

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Keep your head high and make sure that whenever you see scum like that, you fight it.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker.

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Thank you.

44:13

Go ahead, please.

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State your name address.

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I have two minutes.

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Good morning, Mr.

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Mayor.

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My name is PJ Weir.

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Commissioners.

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I am here on behalf, and I'm the president of Energy Corporate Wellness.

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This is about the wellness budget for today.

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For over eight years, we proudly served the city of Miami Beach, earning two top ten final spots in the South Florida Business Journal's Healthiest Employer Awards.

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Our mission has been to help employees overcome obstacles, whether it's borderline type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, or helping those diagnose reduce reliance on medications.

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As a self-funded organization, the city benefits directly from a healthier workforce, controlling claims and strengthening the bottom line.

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Beyond Camp Energy's six weekly classes, we built a wellness channel where employees feel safe to ask questions and share concerns from beach boot camps and pop-up smoothie demos to leading warm-ups at the Mercedes Benz run in five case.

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We've fostered a proud family-like community since January 2025 with minimal marketing.

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We've grown participation across departments, driving team building and better health.

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In 2024, we funded gift card rewards out of pocket to sustain engagement for nearly a year.

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The city was in between wellness applications and associates weren't receiving rewards, and we felt it.

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We operated with zero incentives, which significantly impacted participation during that time.

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It became clear that points and rewards are a key driver of our program success, keeping associates engaged and motivated.

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Please help us continue this vital mission with the support needed to keep Team Miami Beach thriving.

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Thank you.

45:47

Thank you.

45:47

Thank you.

45:48

Our next speaker virtually is Donna.

45:51

Donna state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

45:59

Donna, please unmute yourself.

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Hello, can you hear me?

46:03

Yes, go ahead.

46:05

My name is Donna Neville.

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I live in uh North Beach in Miami Beach.

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I was going to respond to one of today's deeply offensive resolutions, but need to respond to remarks made by members of this commission.

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I grew up with Holocaust survivors in Miami Beach.

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I spend weekend after weekend hearing their stories, which were etched into my soul.

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I worked for the World Gathering of Jewish Holocaust survivors.

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It is precisely because of how deeply and profoundly I honor their memory that I stand for justice today.

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And that means standing against Israel's genocide against the Palestinian people.

46:42

To conflate anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel and its actions, makes a mockery of actual anti-Semitism.

46:50

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

46:52

On the issue of Jewish voice for peace, I have never been part of a Jewish organization that more reflects the values I grew up with of Tikunolum repair of the world.

47:03

I learned those values in every synagogue in Miami Beach.

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I was part of and at the Hebrew Academy, right down the street where I went to school.

47:10

As a Jewish person and as a human being, I say stop Israel's ongoing brutality and starvation campaign that is right before our very eyes against the Palestinian people.

47:22

Silence is complicity.

47:24

Never again means never again for anyone, ever.

47:30

Thank you so much.

47:32

Morning, go ahead.

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Say your name address, I have two minutes.

47:38

Good morning, Omar Jimenez.

47:40

Um, candidate for city commission in group one, 7324 Garry Avenue, Miami Beach, Florida.

47:46

The city is almost a one billion dollar budget annually.

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However, we also have over 100 million in unfunded projects due to the waste and mismanagement of our taxpayer dollars each year.

47:58

Last week, the Dragstell Avenue pedestrianization finally broke ground after 12 years.

48:03

How is this project going to bring back people to Lincoln Road?

48:07

And most importantly, how does a few pavers and landscaping cost 31 million dollars?

48:14

It's a similar story with Pump Station 28.

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In 2022, the upgrade was supposed to cost 11 million.

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Then three years later, it's now costing 44 million dollars.

48:25

Are we really negotiating the best contracts possible?

48:29

Last week, the land use and sustainability committee meeting.

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We learned that the city administration no longer feels dredging the contaminated sludge at the bottom of the Parkview Canal, estimated at $2 million, is fiscally responsible.

48:44

While we live surrounded by toxic waterways for the past five years and see regular closures due to bacteria-filled beaches, are we really focused on our bread and butter?

48:56

Our future is our clean and safe beaches and waterways.

48:59

Miami Beach is sounding more like a brown zone these days rather than a blue zone.

49:05

Thank you.

49:07

Thank you, sir.

49:08

Thank you so much.

49:09

Uh, Commissioner Baras speak.

49:12

I just want to clarify the record.

49:14

At last week's land use committee meeting.

49:18

It was not a discussion about whether or not dredging was a prudent fiscal measure.

49:23

The concern was that it wouldn't be in and of itself by itself, a solution that would yield the results that we want.

49:31

We are still proceeding with the dredging plan.

49:34

We are looking at other options to um to work in collaboration with the dredging plan.

49:41

I this is a very hot topic and very important to the future of our city to have an island where we all live, where water doesn't stop at barriers, to be clean.

49:54

So I don't appreciate folks' mischaracterizing the work that's being done.

50:00

I I agree that it's not as fast as we wanted.

50:03

I share the frustration that it's not solved yet.

50:07

I was the resident at the time who raised the alarm about this issue on Parkview Island.

50:12

And the administration at the time, not people here now, said, oh, don't worry about it.

50:16

It's just weird funky testing from the sewer line break in in Midbeach.

50:21

That was not the case.

50:23

And we have been working for years now, led by my colleague when he was elected, Alex Fernandez and all of the colleagues on the commission now to fix this.

50:33

But it is not a quick, simple, easy, or inexpensive fix.

50:37

We're spending close to 20 million dollars, if I'm remembering correctly, when all will be said and done.

50:43

And we will not stop until it is resolved.

50:46

But let's let's use facts accurately.

50:50

We are working on getting the dredging going.

50:53

We are working on other techniques that can enhance the effects of the dredging, and we will not stop working until we have resolved this issue.

51:02

Thank you, Commissioner Bach.

51:03

Commissioner Fernandez.

51:04

Thank you, Mr.

51:05

Mayor.

51:06

And I just want to echo the words of my colleague because we have been working on this for for a number of years, and in great part because Commissioner Bond uh, prior to being elected, uh, taught me a lot about what was happening with water quality in North Beach.

51:21

And early on in my term, we started prioritizing the funding to fix the infrastructure in North Beach.

51:27

And we continued that work.

51:28

In fact, today uh we have an item that I'm sponsoring on the on the agenda to authorize an independent third-party review of the sanitary sewer pump station 23 out there in North Beach, so that if there is an issue, we become aware of it and we're able to take the definitive action we need to fix it.

51:51

And we're also authorizing funding for weekly water quality testing in the Parkview Canal so that the public can benefit from that information.

52:00

And most importantly, we've been working with Durham, our city administration, on new technology, in addition to the dredging, nano bubble technology, which in essence pumps the water from the canal, puts it through a system to oxygenate and hopefully kill the entrococci that has been plaguing this this canal for for five years, and there is high hopes that this could potentially um address some of the serious water quality issues we've been facing there.

52:29

Clearly, we understand the concerns of the community.

52:32

The community has a right to be upset.

52:34

For too long, prior to this commission, the issue was ignored.

52:38

But I'm grateful for the support of my colleagues as we're moving forward with real improvements and investments to fix this dangerous water quality issue.

52:46

Thank you, Mr.

52:47

Mayor.

52:47

Thank you, Commissioner Fernandez.

52:49

Next speaker.

52:52

Our next speaker is Alan Levine.

52:54

Mr.

52:54

Levine, state your name address.

52:55

We have two minutes.

53:00

I'm Alan Levine, a resident of Miami Beach, and a member and lawyer for Jewish Voice for Peace.

53:10

Last month the Commission adopted a resolution protesting the inhumane treatment of members of our immigrant community.

53:18

That display of tolerance seems to be too much for some members of the commission who proposed resolution celebrating cruelty and intolerance.

53:29

First, there's Commissioner Sware's resolution proposing to honor Charlie Kirk.

53:35

One need not, and I do not celebrate his assassination when I note that Kirk was a first class bigot.

53:44

He applauded stoning gay people, called people who were trans an abomination.

53:50

And said that Martin Luther King was awful.

53:54

That's who you're asked to honor by one of your colleagues.

53:58

And then there's Commissioner Gonzalez Rosen's proposal to give a one-way bus ticket to homeless people.

54:05

It's a proposal right out of the Ron DeSantis playbook, who paid for immigrants to be flown out of Florida.

54:12

And the proposal before you, by the way, is not directed at people who have committed a crime, but simply people who are too poor to pay for shelter.

54:22

For the city of Miami Beach to spend money to help disappear a vulnerable population rather than using that money to make their lives better is a shameful abdication of the city's moral responsibility.

54:37

And finally, let me say that the mayor and commissioner Suarez dishonor the memory of David Schechter by saying that those of us who protest Israel's genocide are anti-Semitic.

54:50

Anti-Semitism is a real thing.

54:53

Criticism of Israel is not that.

54:57

Thank you.

55:00

Our next speaker, please go ahead, state your name address so you have two minutes.

55:03

By the way, I'm gonna ask, because I actually find it personally offensive when I hear the clapping.

55:08

You can do what you want, but that actually is against protocols, and I have to tell you it is so painful when people say things that are hateful toward Israel and not only Israel, the Jewish people.

55:22

Every Jewish person sitting here, almost every Jewish person is sitting here highly offended.

55:28

And we are fearful for what this country and where we stand in this country, and to hear people clapping and glorifying misrepresentations, it's hard.

55:40

Mr.

55:41

Mayor and Commissioners, my name is Jacqueline Powers, and I'm speaking today about the educational enhancements and Steam Plus programming.

55:49

Um last year, the commission and mayor uh so amazingly funded not just for the public schools in Miami Beach, but also for the private schools, um, educational enhancements, enrichment, steam plus, uh, stop the bleed kits, and uh I'm with the the parent at innovative school Temple Beth Shalom.

56:09

I'm also the president of the PTO, and I understand that today is a budget meeting and that some of these enhancements, including the STEAM Plus program, are potentially being um thought to be eliminated.

56:21

And I just wanted to really stress that's what we were told.

56:25

We were told to to be here by the QAC, we were told, so that's why I'm here.

56:30

But um, I just really want to stress how important um these cultural partnerships are.

56:36

The Bass Museum is coming into our school and FIU, um, again, the Stop the Bleak kits, like all these amazing programs.

56:45

Um, not just by the way, uh the private schools in Miami Beach, also all the public schools.

56:51

Um, and I just wanted to show a couple pictures of our students who are enjoying this amazing programming by the Bass, and um they are really loving it.

57:04

Again, it's not just um the innovative school Temple Best Shalom, it's all those schools in Miami Beach.

57:10

So I would urge you when you're making these budgets to please um don't cut this programming.

57:15

Thank you.

57:16

Commissioner Fernandez and Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

57:19

Thank you, Mr.

57:19

Mayor.

57:20

And I just want to ask the city manager, um, because if it's necessary for me to make a motion right now to propose not eliminating any educational enhancement, I'm happy to do it.

57:29

But my understanding is that the budget, as it stands, does not propose eliminating any of the investments that Miami Beach makes into education.

57:38

Is that correct?

57:40

Um I believe everyone is referencing appendix E attached to the budget.

57:46

Appendix E was the exercise that we were asked to do, but those are not recommended reductions.

57:53

So the city administration is not recommending uh unfunding any of the educational programs that the city has been investing in over the years, whether it be for public or private schools.

58:05

If I can just have one thing, apparently, because I'm also on the QAC.

58:08

Apparently, there's an open position, and if that position doesn't get filled, then they can't continue the Steam Plus programming, and so that position needs to be filled.

58:18

And from my understanding, and I hope I'm wrong, that position is not gonna be recommended to be filled, and then therefore the steam plus programming can't go forward.

58:26

That was what my understanding is.

58:28

That that is a very different conversation.

58:31

That is a frozen position right now.

58:34

That is not a budget reduction.

58:36

Right, and I believe um I had requested legislation so that so that if there was a frozen education position, that we could go ahead and proceed with the hiring of that position.

58:49

But I was told that there was no freeze and that that was not necessary.

58:54

Well, what what I understood is that this commission did not require a freeze.

58:59

There was a discussion item, but there was no vote taken to to impose a free on a freeze on hiring.

59:06

If there's one thing that has been consistent in the city of Miami Beach, is that it is intrinsic in our values, not only as a city government, but in how we invest the taxpayers' dollars to continue investing in the education of the students of our city, whether it be public or private schools, is something that we we find it an essential service of our city.

59:28

And so I would just want to make sure that if that is on the chopping block, that we you know that we unfreeze it and that and that that position remains funded in our budget.

59:40

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

59:41

I would just like to echo Commissioner Fernandez's statement that that position should be filled, and I've seen the outcome of all of these STEAM programs in both our public and private schools.

59:51

I actually got a wonderful email from uh one of the yeshiva elementary schools actually saying how much they love the ballet program.

1:00:00

And it's it's it's citywide and it's critical.

1:00:03

So Eric, we need to make sure that that position is funded.

1:00:09

I will I will support Commissioner Fernandez on this, and I'm pretty sure on this day as you have support for these educational enhancements.

1:00:17

The position is funded.

1:00:19

I can confirm.

1:00:20

Right now we're in the middle of a budget process.

1:00:23

We're trying to make sure that at the end we can deliver a balanced budget, and I'm hopeful that we will be able to keep that position funded, and we will address that after the end of the fiscal year once we've got an adopted budget.

1:00:38

Okay.

1:00:40

Thank you.

1:00:43

Our next verse.

1:00:44

Our next virtual speaker is Abby.

1:00:46

Abby state your name address, and you have two minutes.

1:00:51

Hi, my name is Abby, and I currently live in Miami, Florida.

1:00:56

And I was not expecting this to be such a heavy morning this morning with the topics that were presented, but I just wanted to acknowledge and you know echo that you know we need to gain humanity back.

1:01:10

And um, I just wanted to also take a moment to recognize the families that sent their children to school at the beginning of a school year this year, and they um did not come home.

1:01:22

And the many families that will send their children to school this year, and they will also not come home again.

1:01:27

So this is not just political, this is humanity.

1:01:31

And um, you know, the matter that I'm about to share today is an ordinance actually bringing humanity back to Miami Beach, and that starts with changing our parking ordinances.

1:01:41

Um I was towed in Miami Beach after their proper signage not being displayed in a private parking lot.

1:01:49

The private parking lot looked very, very similar.

1:01:52

The signage to city parking.

1:01:54

And I just wanted to thank um the commissioners, Commissioner Bott Magazine and uh Fernandez who responded to my email immediately and wanted to really move this initiative and ordinance along to make um branded and clear signage available to all the community and the most vulnerable community that is affected by this is the handicapped community, thinking that they can park in these parking spaces that are handicapped when they're in fact in private lots, they are towed, and the cost for retrieval of your vehicle is at least 400, which in today's economy is extremely hefty.

1:02:33

And I just wanted to thank everyone for backing this initiative to make clear signage and disclosures and thank you so much.

1:02:43

The time is up, I apologize.

1:02:45

And thank you for that call.

1:02:47

Eric, I I've actually there was another incident in a different area, and and I actually went to check out the signage and it wasn't clear.

1:02:54

How do we rectify how do we rectify this?

1:02:58

So we had legislation that was brought a few months back to try and clarify this.

1:03:05

Um, there's actually an additional legislative item on the agenda today, thanks to Commissioner Fernandez, um, to add additional clarity to the requirements of private parking lots to identify themselves, and so we are going to continue to find ways to make it as clear as possible to the traveling public when a lot is the cities as opposed to when it's privately owned and operated.

1:03:30

And maybe it's a separate item or or if we can add on to what we'll discuss it at the time.

1:03:34

But the area I'm talking about actually was uh a street where there's a loading zone, but the it really wasn't clear.

1:03:40

I actually went read it several times and I couldn't figure figure it out.

1:03:43

Um, and I think we brought it to your attention, but uh, these are the types of things where somebody got towed and it's like kind of feel bad for them because even someone uh who who read the sign multiple times would be confused.

1:03:55

Understood.

1:03:55

We'll we'll work with our parking folks to make sure that the signage is clear and understandable.

1:04:00

Thanks.

1:04:01

Go ahead, please state your name address.

1:04:03

I have two minutes.

1:04:04

Hi, my name is Cole Bivany Sicklet, and I'm the newly elected president of the Hebrew Academy Student Council.

1:04:09

On behalf of my constituents, I want to thank you, Mayor Minor, Commissioner Suarez, and your administration for making Miami Beach even better and safer.

1:04:18

Thank you for working so closely with the Miami Beach Police to protect our city and its citizens.

1:04:22

We appreciate the enhanced visual police presence at religious sites.

1:04:26

Our student body is also very excited to enjoy the brand new park that the city's built on Pine Tree Drive, right near our campus.

1:04:32

Thank you for all that you do for our community.

1:04:35

Thank you.

1:04:35

And good luck in your uh new presidency.

1:04:43

Mayor, 30 minutes have elapsed.

1:04:45

May we continue?

1:04:45

And if so, may I do it before one minute?

1:04:47

Sir.

1:04:48

So everyone's we've elapsed the 30 minutes, so we're gonna give everyone one minute to allow everyone to speak.

1:04:54

The young lady with at the end will be the last person.

1:04:57

If you unless you if you want to stand in line, please do so now.

1:05:00

Otherwise, she's the last person.

1:05:02

Our next speaker is Amanda Harris.

1:05:05

Amanda, go ahead, state your name, address, and you have one minute.

1:05:10

Hi, my name's Amanda Harris.

1:05:12

I live at 1751 Washington Avenue.

1:05:15

Um I was reading an email this morning from Kristen Rosen Gonzalez that the plan is now to give unhoused people a bus ticket and a hundred dollars to get out of Miami Beach.

1:05:26

And I just want to say that I have never faced violence from an unhoused person.

1:05:31

My kids play at the soundscape by themselves, unaccompanied, and they've never been accosted by an unhoused person.

1:05:38

What I do see is that a higher number of unhoused people because the cost of living in Miami Beach is too high.

1:05:43

I think that this commission can work out a better plan that's sustainable for people in Miami Beach to live safely and coexist without having to resort to living on the streets because they can't afford housing.

1:05:55

So I'm asking you to consider being more creative and coming up with a sustainable solution that's humane to the humans that live on our streets who don't want to live on our streets.

1:06:06

Um and I think we can come up with something better.

1:06:08

Thank you very much.

1:06:10

Thank you so much, Amanda.

1:06:11

Representative, go ahead, you have one minute.

1:06:14

Good morning.

1:06:15

Um I always come here to actually talk business of the city and state, and I just get drawn into the conversations that are constantly on the table.

1:06:25

So I'm gonna change what I'm gonna say again.

1:06:28

The other day, I just want to let you all know I I posted a very appropriate post on the death of Charlie Kirk.

1:06:34

No one should take bullets for their beliefs.

1:06:37

I posted on the Miami Beach community chats.

1:06:40

The comments were so toxic, so horrendous that the moderator shut it down.

1:06:46

I called him immediately and said, please do not do that.

1:06:49

I'm an elected official, I don't censor anybody, regardless of my position.

1:06:54

Um, and he refused to.

1:06:55

And I want people to see what's really out there.

1:06:58

We just had the um remembrance of 9-11 where I wasn't able to speak.

1:07:04

Um, and I heard speeches that hit the talking points, but failed to remind everybody, and I was there that day.

1:07:11

I lost friends that day.

1:07:13

And it wasn't just our first responders that I'm grateful for every day.

1:07:17

It was a community that stopped thinking of where to point fingers.

1:07:22

They just came together in an instant.

1:07:26

Perfect strangers, doing amazing things for strangers.

1:07:33

Um I the city is hurting, the world is hurting.

1:07:39

And I I want to blame the leaders, I want to blame the parents.

1:07:42

I want to take a lot of responsibility for myself.

1:07:44

I got into this too late to be a voice.

1:07:47

Um, we're all responsible until we make a decision to just stop the nonsense and do better.

1:07:53

And to the children that are here today and that are listening everywhere.

1:07:57

It is up to you.

1:07:59

Educate yourselves on every side of every argument and be brave and bold and step forward.

1:08:06

I do believe in us, and uh this city is my heart, it's my home.

1:08:11

I raised my kid here.

1:08:13

So I can't.

1:08:14

That's why I love it the most because it hurts the most.

1:08:16

He's a representative, just give him another one.

1:08:18

Yeah, I you know, again, I came to talk about other things, and and we don't always see eye to eye.

1:08:23

And and we won't.

1:08:24

And that's why we're here.

1:08:26

We should challenge each other.

1:08:28

But but please, please, let's get together and let's fix this.

1:08:33

That we cannot take any more of this.

1:08:35

It just hurts too much.

1:08:37

Thank you.

1:08:37

Thank you, Representative Bisabi.

1:08:39

Uh, Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

1:08:41

I would like to rebut a few of the comments about my um bus ticket item.

1:08:46

And I would like to explain why I put the bus ticket item on just so that people understand.

1:08:52

Right now, we have a camping ordinance in the city of Miami Beach, and uh we are arresting homeless people who are sleeping in our parks.

1:08:59

We have an option to arrest, an option to go to a shelter, and most of or a bus ticket.

1:09:05

And when I did a deep dive into this, I found that the reason the homeless people are not taking the bus ticket and they're just getting arrested, which is even worse, is because somebody has to receive them on the other end.

1:09:15

We know a large amount of our homeless population comes from outside of the city of Miami Beach.

1:09:20

So if we can send them back to reconnect with their families without having to have someone receive them on the other end, that is in fact compassionate.

1:09:27

And not only is it a bus ticket, but it is a bus ticket with a hundred dollars so that they can have some food and uh incidentals along the way.

1:09:34

So I think that this is not just a solution, it's a compassionate solution, and this is a pilot program, and we will look at the data after three months and see if in fact people are finally choosing to take the bus ticket option.

1:09:47

Thank you.

1:09:48

Thank you.

1:09:48

And we'll obviously discuss this more at length when we uh when we call the item later.

1:09:53

Thank you.

1:09:53

Our next virtual speaker is Sharon.

1:09:55

Sharon, state your name, address so you have one minute.

1:10:00

Hi, uh Sharon Weiss, uh 2381st Street.

1:10:02

And uh I'm just calling in this morning to express my uh puzzlement why this commission is not taking the um situation with the water quality as a five alarm fire.

1:10:16

I absolutely cannot believe that the commission is wasting time and money on foreign affairs, on arts and culture, on far increases on developer giveaways.

1:10:27

100% of our money and focus should be on water quality without access to the water.

1:10:35

We are not Miami Beach.

1:10:36

We are just Miami.

1:10:38

We are hot, we are swampy, and we have no relief from it via our our beautiful waterways.

1:10:46

Thank you.

1:10:47

Thank you.

1:10:47

Go ahead, sir.

1:10:48

State your name address, so you have one minute.

1:10:50

Good morning.

1:10:50

My name is Caleb Gdanski, and as a great grandchild of four Holocaust survivors, two of whom survived Auschwitz.

1:10:57

I'm especially grateful to share a few words today.

1:11:00

The city's commitment to honoring Holocaust survivors ensures that their legacy will never fade.

1:11:06

By creating spaces like this for remembrance and dialogue, Miami Beach reminds us that the fight against anti-Semitism is about protecting freedom and dignity for everyone.

1:11:15

As a lifelong student of the Hebrew Academy, I've consistently been taught the importance of not only our Jewish identity, but the paramount place that the state of Israel holds as our true homeland.

1:11:26

As a lifelong residence of Miami Beach, I feel deeply grateful to live in a city that has always stood with the Jewish community and with Israel.

1:11:34

Miami Beach has been a place where Jewish families, just like my own, feel safe and supported, even while anti-Semitism continues to rise in other parts of the country.

1:11:43

I want to thank the city of Miami Beach and its leaders for their consistent support of Israel and the Jewish people.

1:11:48

Thank you.

1:11:49

Thank you.

1:11:50

Thank you.

1:11:51

Our next virtual speaker is Louis Valdez.

1:11:54

Mr.

1:11:54

Valdez, state your name, address, and you have one minute.

1:11:59

My name is Louis Valdez.

1:12:00

I'm the Florida State Director for Gun Owners of America.

1:12:03

Our corporate address is 8001 Forbes Place, Springfield, Virginia.

1:12:07

But I'm a Miami native and grew up in Miami Beach.

1:12:10

Uh Shalom, Mr.

1:12:12

Mayor and honorable members of this committee.

1:12:14

Gun owners of America is completely against the resolution encouraging businesses to become gun free zones.

1:12:20

As it has been said, never again mean something.

1:12:23

One of the first things that the Nazi government did was enact gun control and disarm the Jewish populations.

1:12:29

Gun control only restricts the law-abiding criminals in no way abide by this.

1:12:36

Furthermore, it r it restricts the Jewish population and leaves them defenseless against anti-Semitic attacks.

1:12:43

Gun owners of America firmly believes that this resolution the city wishes to pass to encourages businesses to be gun-free zones in no way resolves this issue and in fact disarms the Jewish population and other law-abiding Floridians that visit and live in Miami Beach.

1:12:58

Thank you.

1:12:58

Thank you so much.

1:12:59

Go ahead, please, state your name and address.

1:13:01

You have one minute.

1:13:02

Good morning.

1:13:03

I'm Eliana.

1:13:04

Commissioner Fernandez.

1:13:06

I just want to just clarify for the record.

1:13:09

Does the resolution that was just referenced, does it encourage the businesses or does it simply inform and educate the businesses that if they choose, uh leaving it up to the business whether they want to or not uh prohibited weapons in their establishment?

1:13:25

Well, we're not in any way regulating.

1:13:27

We would be preempted from doing that under some law.

1:13:30

Um we don't want to regulate firearms, that's not our business.

1:13:34

Correct.

1:13:34

Um, this is you know providing information, um, allowing businesses to make their their own decisions, but it's not encouraging.

1:13:43

I believe that the wording does include the word encouraging.

1:13:46

Okay, I want to make sure that this is about informing, not necessarily encouraging.

1:13:51

I want to make sure that this is informational uh so that each business makes their own determination.

1:13:57

Okay, we can modify that when the item gets called.

1:14:00

Okay, and I just want to confirm, Mr.

1:14:02

Manager, this is the recommendation of the chief of police.

1:14:06

Uh the chief of police and I spoke briefly about this.

1:14:11

Um we want to make sure that the city is in the best position to be able to protect its residents.

1:14:20

Um I'm sure we'll have a conversation about this when the item comes up.

1:14:24

Okay.

1:14:24

If this is our recommendation of the chief of police, I just want to be on the record because I always believe in supporting our police, especially on issues having to do with weapons that we charge them to protect us about.

1:14:36

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

1:14:38

Just because we have students here, I would like to let you know that uh the program that you have at your school names, not numbers this year.

1:14:45

The funding was cut by the state of Florida, and we as a commission intervened and funded it for you and several of the other public schools.

1:14:51

So the commission does a lot um for the community and to keep the let the legacy of the survivors present, ever present.

1:15:03

This has been one of our most active open forums that we've had.

1:15:07

So go ahead, please.

1:15:08

You have one minute.

1:15:09

Okay.

1:15:10

Hi, good morning.

1:15:11

I'm Eliana.

1:15:12

I'm a senior at Hebrew Academy.

1:15:13

Today we pause to honor Holocaust survivors, men and women who endured unimaginable cruelty yet refuse to let hate define their lives.

1:15:22

Their courage is more than history.

1:15:24

It's a call to action.

1:15:26

As survivors grow older, our responsibility grows stronger.

1:15:30

We must listen to their stories, preserve their testimonies, and share them with future generations so that the truth can never be denied or forgotten.

1:15:39

Honoring survivors means more than remembering the past.

1:15:42

It means standing up against anti-Semitism and all forms of hatred today.

1:15:46

By carrying their voices forward, we ensure that the lessons of the Holocaust about the dangers of prejudice and the power of resilience remain alive.

1:15:54

Let us promise that their suffering will not be in vain and that their legacy of hope and human dignity will endure.

1:16:00

Thank you so much.

1:16:01

Thank you.

1:16:01

Thank you.

1:16:04

I have to say I'm so proud hearing the students from Hebrew Academy that are speaking, because if I close my eyes and didn't see your faces and know your age, I would think I'm listening to a uh well-renowned public speaker.

1:16:15

Uh you it's uh I know it's from the heart, and it's incredible uh the talent that we have in our city.

1:16:22

Thank you.

1:16:22

Our next virtual speaker is Gina.

1:16:24

Gina, state your name, address, and you have one minute.

1:16:29

Good morning.

1:16:29

My name is Gina Presertlum, and I live at 5555 Collins Avenue, and I'm here today on behalf of Clean Miami Beach to speak in strong support of the agenda item regarding the ban of artificial flower petals and glitter on our beaches.

1:16:41

So these products may look festive, but they are actually harmful pollutants.

1:16:45

These are synthetic and they never fully break down, and once they're scattered, they enter our oceans where our fauna can mistake them for food.

1:16:51

Just yesterday during our cleanup at 24th Street, we once again collected many of these items littered on our beach.

1:16:56

And despite regular cleanups, they continue to reappear, showing that our cleanup efforts alone are not enough.

1:17:02

These items don't biodegrade, and they add to the growing problem of microplastic pollution.

1:17:06

A ban is not just necessary, it is common sense if we want to protect our beaches, wildlife, and the health of our community.

1:17:12

We are also urging the city to address the ongoing sewage contamination that threatens public health, degrades water quality, and harms aquatic life.

1:17:20

Thank you.

1:17:21

Thank you so much.

1:17:22

Go ahead, please state your name, address, and you have one minute.

1:17:24

Hi, good morning.

1:17:25

My name is Abigail Elyov, and I'm a senior at Hebrew Academy in Miami Beach.

1:17:29

I just want to take a moment to thank you guys for your consistent support of Israel and the Jewish community, especially in times like these.

1:17:35

With everything that is going on, I'm gonna be a little honest.

1:17:37

I was a little afraid to go to such a well-known Jewish high school.

1:17:40

However, the city has ensured safety not just for the kids who go to Hebrew Academy, but for the whole Jewish community here, and for that we should all be grateful.

1:17:47

It's necessary that in these times we stand against anti-Semitism and we continue to commemorate Holocaust survivors and defend their legacy.

1:17:54

It's on us to keep their stories alive and remind everyone what happened.

1:17:58

It's essential to know also that there are appropriate ways to address controversies, including peaceful dialogue and civic engagement.

1:18:04

Ultimately, thank you to you guys and the city for doing such an incredible job in safeguarding the massive Jewish community here.

1:18:11

Your dedication and support are truly appreciated and don't go unnoticed.

1:18:14

Thank you.

1:18:15

Thank you so much.

1:18:17

Our next virtual speaker is as a screen name of Brandon Brandon State, your full name, address, and you have one minute.

1:18:25

Thank you.

1:18:26

Hey, I'm Brandon Buckles, traveler one for the agency at WeControl Time.com between uh Miami Beach, Bogota, Columbia, and uh Cordova Candina.

1:18:35

Caring for those in need is a core tenet of our shared traditions.

1:18:39

In Judaism, say that guy, I hope I'm saying that right.

1:18:41

The command to give charity is not merely a moral ideal but a communal responsibility that sustains society.

1:18:48

When we neglect the poor, we weaken the very fabric of our economy.

1:18:52

Recent analysis show that such neglect can translate into a loss of roughly four million dollars in hotel tax revenue, reflecting reduced tourism and local spending.

1:19:01

My own faith in Jesus Christ calls me to honor every person as an equal, extending compassion without judgment.

1:19:07

As Christians, we are also called to respect the Jewish people and recognize the authority they hold as appointed by God, acknowledging the wisdom of their teachings on justice and generosity.

1:19:17

Together, let us champion policies that live to the vulnerable because doing so enriches both our moral conscience and our collective prosperity.

1:19:24

Please stop hurting those experiencing homelessness.

1:19:28

Thank you so much.

1:19:30

Go ahead.

1:19:31

State your name, address so you have one minute.

1:19:33

Good morning.

1:19:33

My name is Jacob Lee Boitz.

1:19:35

I'm a senior at the Hebrew Academy.

1:19:37

Now, before I speak, I'd like to thank everyone in this room.

1:19:40

We are the Miami Beach community.

1:19:42

Now, I've been a resident of Miami Beach since 2009.

1:19:46

I didn't just grow up in the city, but I grew with the city.

1:19:49

And in recent times, there's been an exponential rise in hate.

1:19:52

Unjustified hate and hate that separates our community.

1:19:55

I am addressing not just the city but the people in this room with me now, begging for peace.

1:20:01

We are one community, and I ask that we preserve our community.

1:20:05

Community is built through proper communication and peaceful conversations.

1:20:09

Although everyone in this room shares a different opinion, we must ensure that we voice our opinions in a respectful manner.

1:20:14

I just want to take a moment to thank you, Commissioner, and frankly, everyone in this room who's here today for standing with the Jewish community during a very difficult and very anti-Semitic time.

1:20:23

Your support means more than words can capture.

1:20:26

As a student of Hebrew Academy, Israel has always been core to our values.

1:20:30

It is the home of my people, and I cannot begin to start my thanks for what the city has done.

1:20:35

Thank you so much.

1:20:36

Thank you.

1:20:38

Our next virtual speaker is Wayne Roberts.

1:20:42

Mr.

1:20:42

Roberts, go ahead, please.

1:20:45

Thank you, sir.

1:20:47

I want to begin by thanking Eric because he picked up the phone, uh Eric Carpenter at 7:30 this morning when I was in front of Walgreens, where I uh saw a uh man in his 30s sleeping on the sidewalk.

1:21:00

Um picked up the phone and services came from, but I had a long talk with him.

1:21:06

Um he'd been arrested several times under the uh the camping ordinances.

1:21:12

Um was happy to take shelter.

1:21:15

But I asked him, would he be interested in a bus ticket $100?

1:21:19

And he said, absolutely, because I want to get home.

1:21:22

I've been here for months.

1:21:24

Um and I have no means to get home.

1:21:28

So the people that are saying that it's you know it's it's cruel.

1:21:33

Most of the homeless here came here with $500 in their pocket and they and they're done.

1:21:39

They're they're they're they're broke.

1:21:41

They have no means to get home.

1:21:43

And so anything we can do to uh uh to put them back where they they're we'll have more success.

1:21:52

Thank you.

1:21:55

Go ahead, please.

1:21:56

You have one minute.

1:21:56

State your name and address.

1:21:58

Hi, my name is Brenda Jordan.

1:21:59

I'm an artist vendor.

1:22:01

I live 2316 Bay Drive, Miami Beach, Florida, 33141.

1:22:05

Okay.

1:22:07

Um I'm a certified uh Miami Beach artist vendor.

1:22:11

Thank you for the opportunity to speak today.

1:22:15

Um none of the artists are here on behalf of the artists who are directly affected by the recent ordinance.

1:22:26

And if you artists can stand up, that would be good.

1:22:29

None of the artists were given proper copies of the ordinance to review before the vote was taken, including myself.

1:22:38

This goes against the spirit of Florida Sunshine Laws, which were meant to ensure the public can review government action before decisions are made.

1:22:47

Show the things.

1:22:48

My husband's going to show some of the art that, especially to the lawyer who considers jewelry not art.

1:22:54

Um against okay, the Florida Sunshine Laws, which meant that public, I'm gonna take his minute, can review government actions before the decisions are made.

1:23:05

We were denied a meaningful chance to commit, I mean, what is it, comment or prepare.

1:23:12

In August, we paid into a contract with the city for our permits and the lottery for the October through December turn.

1:23:19

On December 9th, we spent three hours on a Zoom call completing lottery chosen uh lottery and choose our spots.

1:23:28

After paying and signing off, we found that the city revoked the process without advanced notice.

1:23:35

That is bait and switch and undetermined our good faith contract with the city because it is a contract we signed into it.

1:23:44

A lawyer without credentials in the art is making decisions on what is and not art.

1:23:51

Jewelry and wearable art are some of the oldest recognized art forms in the world held in permanent collections at major museums.

1:24:00

Thank you so much.

1:24:01

Um, can I take your spot?

1:24:04

Ma'am, we have a lot of people in line.

1:24:06

No, because these things have to be heard.

1:24:09

It's not fair to me as a resident.

1:24:11

Thank you.

1:24:13

From the beginning, the program was built without input from artists or experts.

1:24:18

No one paid an experienced art professional to design it.

1:24:24

So loopholes and inconsistencies have piled up.

1:24:28

Now the foundation is cracked.

1:24:30

And the ordinance effectively broken.

1:24:33

There are no formal orientations for new artists, vendors.

1:24:37

People simply watch others and follow their lead, which leads to confusion, mistakes, and inconsistencies.

1:24:44

A uh trans parent, expert designed orientation would be helpful for those applying to comply with the program's points.

1:25:00

Artists are a vital point part of Miami Beach culture and economics.

1:25:05

Yet our voices have been marginalized.

1:25:09

We want a program that works with the city and authentic artists, not dictated without.

1:25:19

We want a program that honors the artists and our voices, not dictated.

1:25:24

And this didn't start with you.

1:25:26

This started with Mayor Maddie Bauer and Hilda Hernandez and Manny.

1:25:31

So anyway, going down here, we this is the solution.

1:25:36

We know people say you can't fight City Hall.

1:25:41

But right now, as a working artist, I feel like David standing before Goliath.

1:25:47

But David still had a voice and the right to fairness.

1:25:52

And so do we.

1:25:53

We're asking you not to be Goliath in the story, but to stand with us in creating a fair, transparent program.

1:26:01

Thank you, ma'am.

1:26:02

I respectfully thank the commissioners, but I'm asking you to not null and void our contract that we already signed up in August for the city.

1:26:12

I think if you wait until the end of this cycle, and during that time, we can make changes that need to be made with inclusion of artists and set up a viable program for the next session.

1:26:25

A lot of these people, one lady had to be taken to the hospital because this is her livelihood.

1:26:30

And she's in her 70s, late 70s, I'm in my 70s, but maybe her husband is in his 80s, dealing with ailments and have a heart.

1:26:38

These are people's livelihood.

1:26:40

And I'm not saying don't make changes, but people have already invested three hours in the lottery on the knife.

1:26:46

I paid my money in August, and without having any finances during the summer, please open your heart.

1:26:53

My husband was showing my jewelry that is art, and I hope you saw it.

1:26:57

Thank you.

1:26:57

Thank you.

1:26:58

Next virtual speaker has a screen name of Miami Beach.

1:27:01

Please state your name, address, and you have one minute.

1:27:07

Good morning, to all.

1:27:09

My name is Wanda Jamin, 8305 Creske Boulevard.

1:27:12

I'm calling a support of the anti-Semitic Ordinance.

1:27:16

I wanted to make it very clear that I'm not public Jewish rape.

1:27:21

I am a Catholic and a Christian.

1:27:24

Israel has a very special place in my heart because it is the birthplace of my king and savior, Jesus Christ.

1:27:31

I also support Charlie Kirk's memorial because the freedom of speech and expression should never warrant that on any human, no matter what the dialogue, violence and hate is not the answer.

1:27:43

Lastly, the city must make it a priority regarding the quality of our waters and take this seriously.

1:27:51

It's been too long, we had this problem.

1:27:53

If you can't do it on your own, please ask the state and the federal government for help.

1:27:58

Or I will take it upon myself to reach out to the state and the federal government and ask them myself.

1:28:05

As per the homeless um ordinance from my beloved Kristen Rosen.

1:28:12

I apologize, but we're out of time.

1:28:14

Ma'am, state your name, address, and you have one minute.

1:28:17

My name is Janet Figuero.

1:28:19

I'm one of the artist vendors here for the city of Miami Beach.

1:28:22

I was um told that only residents of Miami Beach are the only ones that are allowed now as an artist.

1:28:31

So many artist vendors that have been here in this program for a long time has been left out and with no say, and it's unfair to them.

1:28:41

We all participate in the lottery, there's a lot of artists vendors, they're all here.

1:28:45

And it's not fair to them that they signed a contract, they pay their fee, they participate in the lottery the way they're supposed to, and overnight they say if you're not a Miami City residence, you cannot participate in the program, which is biased.

1:29:04

And we're all talking here about getting along, the community, the Jewish community, the regular, everybody.

1:29:11

It's it's it's not fair to pick and choose.

1:29:14

It's not fair to say this group could because they live in Miami Beach, and this group cannot.

1:29:19

Thank you so much.

1:29:22

Thank you.

1:29:23

Our next virtual speaker is Raquel Pacheco.

1:29:25

Ms.

1:29:25

Pacheco, you have one minute.

1:29:26

Say your name and address, please.

1:29:29

Good morning, Raquel Pacheco, 732 Lennox Avenue.

1:29:33

So I just want to say first and foremost, this is a very unconventional setnik hour.

1:29:37

I have to say I like it, Mr.

1:29:38

Mayor.

1:29:39

I like the the exchange between you and the public.

1:29:42

But I was hoping it wouldn't cut into our time, so I find it a little bit concerning that wow, it's very engaging and it seems like you're all solving problems in real time, it shouldn't uh impede on the public's time to public for public comment.

1:29:57

And to that effect, I also want to say uh the message from the rabbi this morning was lovely.

1:30:02

And Mr.

1:30:02

Mayor, I'm sorry that your feelings are so hurt, but the facts uh trump your feelings, and the only way to start healing in our community is for everyone to come to terms with the facts.

1:30:13

And um the violent language that's coming out of this day, particularly with Commissioner Suarez.

1:30:19

You know, I gotta tell you, if that was one of my children in the audience that you spoke to earlier, you and I would have words on the side because that rhetoric is so violent, and I just want to say to those children nobody wishes you harm.

1:30:29

We all just want to.

1:30:30

Thank you, Ms.

1:30:31

Pacheco.

1:30:33

Uh say your name address, so you have one minute.

1:30:35

Good morning, Mr.

1:30:36

Marin Commissioners.

1:30:36

My name is Chelsea Lyon, External Affairs Manager for Florida Power and Light here in Miami Beach.

1:30:42

I'm here today to speak to you all about the FPL settlement agreement with the Florida Public Service Commission and urge you all to consider amending the resolution on today's agenda to focus on encouraging the PFC to conduct a thorough and fair review of the proposed rate increase.

1:30:58

The settlement agreement we've reached is a win for all FPL customers and a win for Miami Beach.

1:31:03

It supports our commitment to meet the reliability needs of our fast growing state while keeping customer bills well below the national average.

1:31:10

We expect a typical thousand kilowatt hour residential customer bill will increase next year by two dollars and fifty-nine cents a month.

1:31:18

Even with that increase, FPL's bills will be 20% lower than they were 20 years prior when you account for inflation.

1:31:26

You know, the settlement also includes additional bill pay assistance for qualifying customers through programs like LIHEAP, which is through the federal government, uh, and through our FPL Care to Share program.

1:31:37

We're 59% more reliable than the national average, and strengthening our infrastructure has helped us avoid over 1.8 million outages since the last rate increase.

1:31:46

Every year in Miami Beach, we're investing tens of millions of dollars in the infrastructure.

1:31:50

A few of the things we've done recently is we've hardened 26 miles of feeder lines Miami Beach is only nine miles long, affecting over 26,000 customers.

1:32:00

We have replaced over 4.3 miles of duct bank since 2017 with more proposed uh duct bank replacements coming.

1:32:07

We have an upcoming underground transmission project that I've spoken to you all about.

1:32:11

We hear you and the residents having concerns about wanting more underground infrastructure, and that's something we're planning to invest in in the near future.

1:32:19

Thank you.

1:32:20

Thank you.

1:32:21

Thank you all.

1:32:22

Thank you, Chelsea.

1:32:23

Our next virtual speaker is Larry Schaefer.

1:32:26

Go ahead, please.

1:32:27

State your name and address.

1:32:28

You have one minute.

1:32:30

Larry Schaefer, 23381st Street.

1:32:33

We heard from many precocious smart children today.

1:32:36

We're about to hear from a childish adult.

1:32:38

We are poop, people opposed to ocean pollution.

1:32:41

We want clean water in the tap, in the bay, and in the ocean.

1:32:45

We want the city to disclose in a professional, complete manner the location, age, and repair records for the tap water system pipes and pumps, the sewage system, pipes and pumps, and the stormwater system.

1:32:58

The city needs to let the community know if they live near sewage pump.

1:33:01

We need to know if sewage pipes are going to blow up and flood the streets.

1:33:05

We need to make good decisions for our families to decide if we want to live in this polluted place or if we want to move away to a place that is clean and not polluted.

1:33:13

We also want the city to voluntarily submit to oversight from the County Department of Environmental Resource Management, Durham, the State Department of Environmental Protection, and the Federal Environmental Protection Agency, because your timeline doesn't work for us.

1:33:29

We refuse to live in pollution.

1:33:31

Thank you, Mr.

1:33:32

We want you to be the solution, not the pollution.

1:33:35

Thank you.

1:33:35

Yeah, that and thank you, Larry, and I and I appreciate your advocacy.

1:33:40

As as Commissioner Fernandez, Commissioner Botts said earlier, I'll also add that this commission as a body has jumpstarted numerous infrastructure projects on the water and sewer, which have been stalled for many years.

1:33:51

That's a really integral part of uh of improving the water quality.

1:33:56

So uh we're we're we're taking a lot of action.

1:33:59

Mr.

1:33:59

Mary, state your full name, address.

1:34:01

I have one minute.

1:34:03

Thank you, Ms.

1:34:03

Gernado, thank you, Mayor Minor, thank you, members of the commission.

1:34:06

I want to take a moment to physically wave and sense of love to the daist, everyone here.

1:34:11

And it's important.

1:34:13

Um as you all know, my name is Luigi Mary.

1:34:16

I am the Miami Beach candidate for group three.

1:34:19

And community unity is more relevant now than ever before.

1:34:27

I want to take a quick moment to thank uh the JCC and uh CBS Miami for a wonderful, wonderful uh robust debate.

1:34:36

And anyone who saw that, you could see that it was light and upbeat, and everyone was able to express themselves peacefully and lovingly.

1:34:45

Now, personally, I carry two dollar bills, not for its monetary value, but for its aesthetic value.

1:34:54

If you look on the back of a $2 bill, you see fraternity, you see people in political discourse.

1:35:01

And I keep them on me and I hand them out to people who support and love me because that $2 bill is an expression of community unity.

1:35:10

And lastly, if uh if I may, uh I know that there were some on the spot modifications or proposals of modifications.

1:35:17

Uh I think I could save a lot of us time.

1:35:21

Uh this is a fun and easy to read copy of the Constitution, and it can help us uh answer a lot of our questions.

1:35:27

Thank you, Mr.

1:35:29

Our next virtual speaker is Katrina Seraldo.

1:35:32

You have one minute, state your name and address, please.

1:35:36

Hi, my name is Katrina.

1:35:37

I live at 1000 West Avenue.

1:35:40

Um I am in response to the um you know anti-BDS uh resolution and the resolution uh just dismayed as a uh uh Miami Beach, born and raised um resident.

1:35:59

Um I think that JVP, Jewish Voice for Peace has been uh a very important voice.

1:36:05

I personally learned about the Holocaust as a child.

1:36:08

I read the Anne Frank Diary, I've been to the memorial, and I can see what's happening in Palestine, not just me watching the videos of children and families being bombed in their times, but also you know, all of the international genocide scholars now saying this is a genocide.

1:36:26

So Miami Beach, we have our own issues to deal with, as many of the residents have brought up today, and um you know, calling the civic engagement of members of Voice for Peace.

1:36:37

Thank you so much.

1:36:39

Very um, thank you.

1:36:41

Go ahead, please state your name address, and you have one minute.

1:36:44

Good morning.

1:36:45

My name is uh Madeline Diaz.

1:36:47

I'm um artist uh vendor, Miami Beach.

1:36:51

I live in Kernel, and uh I respectfully request that the city of Miami reconsider the classification of uh Christian dresses number one.

1:37:03

Number two, the city will provide I respectfully request that the city provide written gratification as uh to how the amends to chapter 18 apply to contracts already executed and paid to prior to their adoption, and the last thing art is universal and should not be restricted on a zip code.

1:37:31

Thank you so much.

1:37:32

Thank you.

1:37:33

Our last virtual caller has a screen name of Usadio Zoom.

1:37:38

State your full name and address.

1:37:40

You have one minute.

1:37:44

Unmute yourself, please.

1:37:49

Go ahead, please.

1:37:51

Hello, good morning.

1:37:53

Go ahead, please.

1:37:55

My name is Joel Masantos.

1:37:58

I I'm Axis Vendo.

1:38:00

Now I'm Brazil and I receive email about the the end the program.

1:38:05

Sorry about my English.

1:38:07

I walk in this program in 20 years.

1:38:09

I I do SDA low because I walk with the ass.

1:38:14

Now I don't have money for pay my bill because you're you hadis.

1:38:20

You happy?

1:38:21

You happy?

1:38:23

Are you happy?

1:38:24

You're destroying walking.

1:38:27

You take my big Tony on the beach.

1:38:29

I'm in walking.

1:38:31

I'm not doing nothing.

1:38:33

You have to take it a homeless, homeless, no walking.

1:38:37

Please leave me.

1:38:38

Everybody walk.

1:38:40

We need pay rent.

1:38:42

You need food.

1:38:43

We need everything.

1:38:46

You need we need you happy, Suwatis.

1:38:51

Thank you so much.

1:38:52

Thank you.

1:38:53

We are concluding the Zoom portion of it, as there's no one else requesting to speak.

1:38:58

We will continue, please.

1:39:00

Go ahead.

1:39:00

Alright, my name is Judas Savag.

1:39:02

I first of all want to thank the kids of the Hebrew Academy for coming and speaking today.

1:39:06

It's really truthfully amazing that you guys showed up.

1:39:09

And second of all, I want to look into the history of Miami Beach.

1:39:12

In the 1920s, when developer Carl G.

1:39:14

Fisher founded this city, he imposed deeds and grant restrictions among many Jews in this city and forced them to live south of Fifth.

1:39:21

Now here today in the year 2025, I stand before a commission with two Jewish commissioners and an Orthodox Jewish mayor.

1:39:27

I asked that in our in our city's leading fight against anti-Semitism that you support the ordinance against anti-Semitism and you support um the ordinance to remember um David Schechter, the um Holocaust survivor because um from the um what's the word the from the way the city was founded to the way the city is today, it's truly amazing to see how time can change and how um the world of um Jewry in specifically Miami Beach is big and it's growing.

1:40:00

leading fight against anti-semitism that you support um the ordinance against anti Semitism and you support um the ordinance to remember um David Schachter the um Holocaust survivor because um from the um what's the word the from the way the city was founded to the way the city is today it's truly amazing to see how time can change and how um the world of um jewelry in specifically Miami Beach is big and it's growing so thank you I just have a question for you Judah I just have a question how many commissioners did you say were Jewish I think I said two no you calling um David and I think you're right yes okay I just yeah and and the mayor and Kristen Christian oh so three sorry uh I'm amateur thank you go ahead please next name address I have one minute my name is Christian devencavets I live on uh nine island in Val Isle um my look I'm gonna be very quick the young people here today changed what I was gonna say now honestly and I'll plagiarize sorry they mentioned the buzzwords controversies proper communication community preservation civic engagement early this morning it was much heavier than most of us had expected uh with mentioning the voices matter show up matters silencing just in general throughout history so they did a lot more than maybe I would have done when I was young um but I'm gonna ask that when we do speak in front of you today for any agenda item not just the one I'm here for just really remember that some people are still afraid to speak up that's why a lot of people dwindle down as this goes down the pipeline any agenda item and just keep in mind that the people that you show up probably speak for about 30 or 40 people thank you very much next please my name is Ulysses Morillo Plaza represent so artisan and photos delinquent honest trabajadores dignes to travel pages and what they're injustice for that sustainment for pagan responsibility in the call the drogas robot but not alleged.

1:42:49

Thank you next please street vendor is for the commission especially materials no ustedes no pueden participating chance three participants y ahora no sabemos dónde vamos a trabajar no vivir aquí in Miami Beach perfect empatia in the force gracias no se preocupe yo no voy a votar por eso de Prada soy Albert Mirando Señor Suárez, usted que es el impulsor de esto nos demostra que usted tiene corazón de Raman Lagrizuna que nuestros compagnons nos hicieron entrar a la loteria está pagada el día 9 for the lottery invoice when we have the envoy no sea electron jueves a pagan and email decía that the program of Miami Beach certificates initiamos este program

1:45:00

El día nove fue la lotería.

1:45:02

El día 10 mandaron el envoys.

1:45:04

Cuando nosotros quisimos pagar el envoy, no se podía.

1:45:33

Si ustedes van a monificar todo eso, correcto.

1:45:36

Ustedes acercados a nosotros tocer, mira, esto no, esto sí, pero no tomarnos photos, comprar mercadería gastando dinero de la ciudad.

1:45:50

Porque esa mercadería no les sirve a ustedes a no ser si las van a repartir o a donar.

1:45:56

Entonces, ese ha sido un gasto inutile.

1:45:59

Nosotros estamos haciendo un trabajo neto.

1:46:03

La mayoría somos gente mayor.

1:46:18

Hola, buenos días.

1:46:21

No me expreso bien, pero vengo a Tambia sano.

1:46:27

No, desde que aquí trabajo in soy sola.

1:46:53

Mr.

1:46:53

Mayor.

1:46:55

I want to thank all the speakers who uh came as one of the speakers mentioned.

1:47:00

It does take courage to come.

1:47:01

I remember before I was an elected official coming to speak, uh, so I appreciate it.

1:47:06

I'm I'm specifically uh grateful to the students who came here and spoke.

1:47:11

It again it takes a lot of courage.

1:47:12

And I had a request to do a quick picture with the students, and I think that would be uh meaningful to you and and our commission as well.

1:47:49

Never mind.

1:49:22

Thank you so much.

1:49:24

Ralph, I'm gonna turn it to you for the consent agenda.

1:49:27

Thank you, Mayor.

1:49:28

The following items have been separated from the consent agenda.

1:49:32

You have a list in front of you that contains these items.

1:49:35

Too much, folks, too much noise.

1:49:38

Thank you.

1:49:40

Commissioner Dominguez has separated C7W.

1:49:44

Commissioner Fernandez has separated C7G.

1:49:49

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez is not separating C7J, so if you can scratch out from your list to C7J is not being separated.

1:49:57

Those are the items that have been requested to be separated.

1:50:02

Only two separated items that may be a record for the fewest amount of separated items.

1:50:08

The addendum items have not been approved by the mayor, and they'll be heard after 5 o'clock.

1:50:14

I have the following two announcements on item C2A, the public benefit, which states a minimum of seven times blocks.

1:50:32

And reserve access to Miami Beach residents is being replaced with the following public benefit.

1:50:37

Providing a 15% reduction in court booking fees for Miami Beach residents.

1:50:41

The updated resolution on exhibit A were uploaded into one meeting yesterday.

1:50:46

We're adding Commissioner Suarez as co-sponsors to C7AF and R5O, and we're adding Commissioner Fernandez as co-sponsor of C7AB and C7AF.

1:50:58

No.

1:50:59

Wait, which I have a motion for C7AC.

1:51:02

I'm sorry.

1:51:04

C seven.

1:51:06

So tell me again, it's C7AF and C7AC.

1:51:10

Got it.

1:51:10

Yeah.

1:51:11

Thank you.

1:51:12

Just want to make sure that it's just those two.

1:51:14

Yes, sir.

1:51:14

Yeah, sorry.

1:51:16

If I can have a motion on the consent agenda excluding the addendums and excluding the separated items.

1:51:22

I'll move the item.

1:51:23

I'll move the agenda with the exception of the separated items.

1:51:30

And just uh point of information, Mr.

1:51:32

Mayor, are we doing today the board and committee appointments, or is that um is that we're doing the process.

1:51:38

I've actually had a request from members of the day not to hear those today.

1:51:42

I was supposed to both uh Ralph.

1:51:44

I'm sorry, uh Commissioner Fernandez was raising whether we're gonna hear the boards and committees.

1:51:48

Uh one I had some requests from members of the death not to hear it today.

1:51:52

Also, I heard from you uh to my office that generally we those positions are not even up till January.

1:51:58

Maybe you can clarify.

1:51:59

There are the reappointments are not up till December 31st.

1:52:04

There's a 60-day grace period.

1:52:05

Normally we do these at the end of the year.

1:52:08

Uh especially during an election year.

1:52:11

Of course.

1:52:11

So but the vacancies that are here you could do today.

1:52:15

They're not controversial, I feel, and there no one's being opposed.

1:52:19

So the vacancies could be done if you wish very quickly.

1:52:22

Okay.

1:52:23

I think that's a good suggestion.

1:52:24

I just want to make sure that you know we we are making decisions that of vacancies that might be effective at the end of the year, and that I think we owe it to whoever the electorate chooses through their wisdom to hold these seats to have the opportunity to make a selection in those in those positions.

1:52:47

It's the courtesy that's been afforded to us in the past when we were elected.

1:52:51

Then once we got elected, we were able to vote on the people who are going to be serving in these positions, and I think we should afford the same to whoever holds these seats uh after the elections.

1:53:02

I'll second that motion.

1:53:04

Thank you.

1:53:04

Okay.

1:53:06

You wish to do the vacancies now or later?

1:53:08

No, I I think what Commissioner Fernandez is saying is that uh in accordance with tradition, we will let the new electorate body uh make those determinations.

1:53:16

Could we do one in and the reason is it's a direct appointment from Hebrew Academy and it requires a waiver, and otherwise the person doesn't come in.

1:53:23

It's their nominee to act on the QEC.

1:53:26

Yeah, I'm happy to move that.

1:53:27

Okay, so Rabbi Seth Gutenberg, we have the waiver as he doesn't have children at the moment, so he needs a waiver.

1:53:34

So we'll do that by acclamation.

1:53:36

Sure.

1:53:37

Okay, so that's the one that is done.

1:53:39

Thank you.

1:53:39

Thank you, Mr.

1:53:40

Mayor.

1:53:40

Thank you.

1:53:42

Any more announcements, Ralph?

1:53:44

No, that's it.

1:53:45

I just need a vote now on the consent agenda.

1:53:47

I have a motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Vice Mayor Magazine.

1:53:50

All in favor of the consent agenda.

1:53:54

Aye.

1:53:55

And I don't see Commissioner Suarez.

1:53:58

So uh one absent six zero absent Commissioner Suarez.

1:54:04

It's called R5E.

1:54:08

Commissioner Suarez on the consent agenda.

1:54:11

Yes.

1:54:12

So it's the consent agenda is approved, excluding those items 70.

1:54:17

You said R5E, Mayor?

1:54:18

Correct.

1:54:21

R5E is an ordinance of the mayor of City Commission of the City of Miami Beach, Florida, amending the City of Miami Beach year 2040 comprehensive plan pursuant to the expedited state review process of section 163.3184 sub three Florida statutes by amending the resilient land use and development element goal RLU 1 entitled land use objective, RLU 1.1 entitled establishment of future land use categories at table RLU 1.1 to provide floor area ratio FAR incentives through the City Commission warrant review process and providing for codification, repealers of ability, transmittal and an effective date.

1:54:57

This is a second reading public hearing.

1:55:00

It is item R5E.

1:55:01

Commissioner Fernandez with five co-sponsors.

1:55:03

Yes, and uh Tom, I just want to make sure that this has an exception for North Beach.

1:55:09

It does actually uh Commissioner R5F, which is the companion LDR amendment includes the exception for North Beach.

1:55:17

Okay, the the LDR amendment is the one that needs to have the exception.

1:55:20

Correct.

1:55:21

Okay.

1:55:21

So with that, I'll move the item.

1:55:25

I have a motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

1:55:29

It is a public hearing.

1:55:30

I see no one on Zoom and no one in the audience.

1:55:33

May I call the roll?

1:55:34

Yes.

1:55:35

On R5E, Commissioner Dominguez.

1:55:38

Yes.

1:55:39

Commissioner Bach.

1:55:41

Yes.

1:55:41

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

1:55:43

Yes.

1:55:44

Commissioner Fernandez.

1:55:45

Yes.

1:55:46

Vice Mayor Magazine.

1:55:47

Yes.

1:55:47

Commissioner Suarez.

1:55:48

Yes.

1:55:49

Mayor Minor.

1:55:49

Yes.

1:55:50

Item R5E is approved.

1:55:52

R5F.

1:55:55

R5F is in order to the mayor, so the Commission of the City of Miami Beach Florida amending the Miami Beach Resiliency Code by amending chapter 2 entitled Administration and Review Procedures.

1:56:02

Article 5 entitled rezoning and read and development approvals.

1:56:05

Section 2.53 entitled design review.

1:56:08

Subsection 2.5.3.3 and title administrative design review.

1:56:11

Chapter 2 entitled Administration and Review Procedures and by Amending Article 13 entitled Historic Preservation.

1:56:17

Section 2.13.7 entitled Issuance of Certificate of Appropriateness, Certificate to Dig, Certificate of Appropriateness for Demolition, Subsection C and Title Review Procedures to Expand Administrative Review Authority for School Development by Amending Chapter 2 Entitled Administration and Review Procedures.

1:56:32

Article 7 and Title Commission Warrant to Section 2.7.1 title review procedures to allow FAR Warrant Request for School Development by Amending Chapter 5 and Title Off Street Parking.

1:56:44

Article 2 entitled Vehicle Parking, Bicycle Parking and Off-Street Loading Requirements.

1:56:48

At Section 5.2.4, entitled Vehicle Off Street Parking Requirements by Amending the Parking Requirements and Parking Tier 1 to eliminate the parking requirement for school use by Chapter 7 entitled zoning district regulations.

1:57:00

Article 1 entitled general to all zoning districts districts by creating section 7.1.12 entitled school use incentive to establish new zoning incentives, including without limitation of floor area ratio specific to properties proposed to be developed with a school use by amending chapter 7 entitled zoning districts and regulations article 2 entitled district regulations by amending section 7.2.4 entitled RM1 residential multifamily low intensity subsection 7.7.2.4.2 entitle use is RM1 and by amending section 7.2.5 entitled RM2 residential multifamily medium intensity and subsection 7.2.5.2 entitle use is RM2.

1:57:37

And by amending section 7.2.6 entitled RM3 Residential Multifamily High Intensity at Subsection 7.2.6.2 RM3 by amending section 7.2.10 entitled C D 1 Commercial Low Intensity District at Subsection 7.2.10.2 entitled use of C D1 and by amending Section 7.2.11 entitled C D 2 Commercial Medium Intensity Districts at Subsection 7.2.11.2 entitled use of C D 2 and by amending section 7.2.12 entitled C D 3 Commercial High Intensity District and Subsection 7.2.12.2 entitle use of C D 3 by amending section 7.2.14 entitled North Beach Town Center Core District TC at subsection 7.2.14.2 entitle uses TC1 TC2.

1:58:22

And by amending subsection 7.2.14.3 entitle uses TC3 and by amending subsection 7.2.14.6 entitled town center central core TCC district and by amending subsection section 7.2.15 entitled performance standard districts ps at subsection 7.2.15.2 entitled residential performance standards districts RPS by amending subsection 7.2.15.3 entitled commercial performance standards district CPS.

1:58:50

And by amending section 7.2.16 entitled SP special SPE Special Public Facilities Educational District at Subsection 7.2.18.2 entitled uses SPE by referencing the school use incentives established under section 7.1.12 and conforming the regulations for each represent respective zoning districts to reflect the incentives and providing for codification repealers of ability and effective date.

1:59:13

This is item R5F.

1:59:16

It requires a six sevens vote it is a second reading public hearing.

1:59:19

Commissioner Fernandez with four co-sponsors that's right thank you so much and uh and I want to thank my co-prime sponsor commissioner Davis Suarez because these items are about supporting the development of educational facilities in our city by offering target targeted incentives to facilitate that sometimes our zoning can be very restrictive but in the one area where we where we should perhaps have some more leniency is when we're talking about the education that makes us a desirable community for families to move to and so uh and so I'm proud to move this item I want to thank again my my co-prime sponsor commissioner suarez and all the members of the commission who have joined us as sponsor and I just also want to make sure uh the this is not included for now North Beach is that correct that's correct okay with that I move the item I just want to I just want to also thank you uh commissioner fernandez for joining me and we had a couple sunshine meetings uh on this and we I know commissioner fernandez and I are looking to invest in our future and the future families of Miami Beach

2:00:00

I want to thank again my my co-prime sponsor, Commissioner Suarez and all the members of the commission who have joined us as sponsor.

2:00:05

And I just also want to make sure uh the this is not included for now North Beach.

2:00:09

Is that correct?

2:00:10

That's correct.

2:00:10

Okay.

2:00:11

With that, I move the item.

2:00:14

I just want to I just want to also thank you, uh Commissioner Fernandez for joining me.

2:00:19

I know we had a couple sunshine meetings uh on this, and we I know Commissioner Fernandez and I are looking to invest in our future and the future families of Miami Beach.

2:00:30

And if we don't have a good school base system here in Miami Beach, uh families are not gonna want to come.

2:00:36

And so we are a resident first city, and this is a great incentive to really encourage more families to come in Miami Beach and grow the roots here.

2:00:46

So again, thank you, Commissioner Fernandez, for co-priming this with me.

2:00:50

Thank you.

2:00:50

Great great item, and uh happy uh to co-sponsor.

2:00:54

Thank you.

2:00:57

Call the vote.

2:00:58

Commissioner Suarez, are you seconding?

2:01:00

I'll second the motion.

2:01:01

It is a public hearing, and we have one individual requesting to speak.

2:01:04

Daniel, state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

2:01:10

Yes, I Daniel Serraldo, 730 103 candidate for commission group one.

2:01:16

Last time I called in on this item, I asked a question of the planning director about maximum height.

2:01:21

I was demonished by one of the commission sponsors who directed the planning director not to answer my basic question.

2:01:29

I'm still very concerned about this ordinance as it appears to be a citywide FAR in height increase.

2:01:36

I'm not clear on whether this applies to private or public schools.

2:01:40

I'm also not clear on the enrollment of some of the newer private schools.

2:01:44

I've heard that those enrollments are on the decline.

2:01:48

Um but um my overall question remains when there's a historic building on the site, will this still go to the historic preservation board?

2:01:58

We need to make sure that our historic buildings are protected and not destroyed by over developments.

2:02:05

Thank you.

2:02:06

And Mr.

2:02:07

Mayor, if I could respond to that.

2:02:09

Because HPB review is still required for demolition in historic districts.

2:02:15

Is that correct?

2:02:15

That's correct.

2:02:16

It's not like when uh Miami Day County public schools went to the cottage to the Rose Cottage uh and and demolished that because we didn't have jurisdiction on on the matter.

2:02:27

That building should have never been demolished.

2:02:29

That's a historic structure, but because it's the school system, they have their authority and their independent jurisdiction, and we weren't able to require HPB review.

2:02:38

In this case, HPB review is still required in those historic districts.

2:02:42

That's correct.

2:02:43

And uh what this does is it does not grant an FAR increase, is that it allows for schools to request one through a commission warrant at a and it and it's a limit, it's capped at 5,000 square feet of FAR.

2:02:58

That's correct.

2:02:59

And 5,000 square feet, we know it's really not that much for for a school.

2:03:04

Correct.

2:03:04

And that allowing that to go through a commission warrant.

2:03:08

And in addition to that, this allows for administrative review of up to 50 feet in height.

2:03:17

Correct, consistent with what's allowed in the zoning district.

2:03:20

Okay.

2:03:21

So just in case there was any misunderstanding or or confusion, just so that we are clear about what the policy does.

2:03:28

Commissioner Fernandez was a rapid fire questions.

2:03:31

You'd been a good lawyer.

2:03:32

Very impressive.

2:03:34

There is no other public speaker requesting to speak.

2:03:37

May I call the roll?

2:03:38

Let's call the role.

2:03:40

Commissioner Bott.

2:03:41

Yes.

2:03:42

Thank you.

2:03:42

Uh Vice Mayor Magazine.

2:03:44

Yes.

2:03:44

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

2:03:46

Yes.

2:03:47

Commissioner Fernandez.

2:03:48

Yes.

2:03:48

Commissioner Dominguez.

2:03:50

Yes.

2:03:50

Commissioner Suarez.

2:03:51

Yes.

2:03:51

Mayor Minor.

2:03:52

Yes.

2:03:52

Motion carries the item is approved.

2:03:54

That was item R5F.

2:03:56

R5A.

2:03:57

For the record, R5D is being open and continued to October 29th.

2:04:03

R5D.

2:04:06

You said R5A, sir.

2:04:08

Just to be clear, D isn't David, right?

2:04:10

He isn't David, yes.

2:04:11

Open and continued October 29th.

2:04:14

R5A.

2:04:15

R5A is an order to the mayor said the commission of the city of Miami Beach, Florida, amending the resiliency code of the city of Miami Beach by amending chapter 7 entitled zoning districts and regulations.

2:04:24

Article 2 and title district regulations, Section 7.2.2 and title RS1, RS2, RS3, RS4, single family residential districts.

2:04:31

That's subsection 7.2.2.6 and title 40th Street Overlay RS to amend the regulations for religious institution uses, including associate dormitories for providing for codification repealer subability on effective date.

2:04:43

This is a second first reading public hearing.

2:04:46

It requires 57th vote.

2:04:48

R5A first reading.

2:04:49

Thank you.

2:04:50

I'm the sponsor, and I'll turn it over to you, Tom.

2:04:52

Okay, thank you, Mr.

2:04:53

Mayor.

2:05:00

Um as most of the commission is aware, this particular item amends the land development regulations of the city code, specifically the 40th Street overlay, which has been in existence since 2010.

2:05:06

And this overlay, which is on the south side of 40th Street, allows for through the conditional use process, religious institutions within single family homes.

2:05:16

This particular proposal would amend that overlay to allow for a limited expansion for certain types of religious institution uses.

2:05:25

It's gone through a lengthy public hearing process through the land use committee and the planning board endorsed the item.

2:05:32

Specifically, and and I'll just go through some of the highlights if there's any specific questions I can answer them.

2:05:37

Um this particular overlay would allow for the introduction of dormitory uses.

2:05:43

Dormitories would be limited to four dormitory units per platted lot, which is consistent with what a single family home would have on a platted lot, and no more than four beds per dormitory unit.

2:05:55

Um design review board approval would be required for any site that contained two or more platted lots.

2:06:02

Um the unit size has in been increased from 50 percent to a 100%.

2:06:07

The lot coverage has been increased from 30 percent to 50 percent.

2:06:11

Um there have been modifications to the front setback requirements, um, which would primarily front either 40th street, depending on the lot, or one of the side streets, and those have been reduced for two-story structures from 30 feet to 20 feet.

2:06:27

Um likewise, street size setbacks have been reduced from 10 feet uh to five feet, and the overall height allowed has been uh increased from two stories to three stories.

2:06:38

Additionally, rooftop access and uses on the roof um would not be permitted, and up to three platted lots could be aggregated for purposes of development.

2:06:47

The administrative administration is supportive of this proposal because the 40th Street Overlay is primarily a transitional zone from the more intense commercial district on the north side of 40th Street into the north of 40th Street into the more low-scale RS area that is on the south side of 40th Street.

2:07:05

Uh, and we would recommend um approval of the ordinance if approved of first reading, second reading uh would be set for October 29th.

2:07:13

I want to acknowledge Rabbi Schlommel Stillerman who is here as well, who first brought this concept to to my attention several years ago.

2:07:20

There's been a lot of work uh and uh compromises that went into this uh this uh ordinance.

2:07:28

So, and I'm very appreciative of obviously Rabbi Stillerman, but also Tom and the entire administration.

2:07:33

Um, countless hours were done to make this uh amenable to our city to work for uh for anyone who wants to uh use this ordinance to enhance the uh religious overlay, but also to the nearby uh neighboring residents.

2:07:48

I think this is uh a really good piece of legislation, and it took a lot of work to get there, but we got there and uh very proud to sponsor it.

2:07:55

Now second the item, Mr.

2:07:56

Mayor.

2:07:57

I think you'll you'll move it.

2:07:59

Sure.

2:07:59

Uh and I'll second.

2:08:00

And I just want to confirm this is this is conditional use because I've received questions about this.

2:08:05

This because anything in an overlay like this would have to go back to the planning board when they submit an application for an operational plan, delivery, hours of operation, parking, all of that gets considered by the planning board uh at the time of an application.

2:08:21

That's correct.

2:08:22

Okay, all right.

2:08:23

So with that, uh I'll move the item.

2:08:25

I'll second.

2:08:27

Motion.

2:08:28

Motion from Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Mayor Minor.

2:08:31

Uh it is a public hearing.

2:08:32

Anita's iPhone is requesting to speak, please state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

2:08:39

My name is Anita Grossman, 4539 North Meridian Avenue, Miami Beach.

2:08:45

I'm very much in favor of this overlay.

2:08:48

I think it will be a boon to our city.

2:08:51

It will bring a lot of younger people into our community, and I hope that you all will pass it so that we can move forward with this project and see the growth of our community.

2:09:04

Thank you.

2:09:05

Thank you so much.

2:09:06

Our next virtual speaker has a screen name of what YM Ventures.

2:09:13

State your name, address.

2:09:14

You have two minutes.

2:09:19

Please unmute yourself.

2:09:24

Y M Ventures, please unmute yourself.

2:09:28

Okay, they're not unmuting themselves.

2:09:30

Go ahead.

2:09:30

Can you yes, go ahead?

2:09:32

Can you hear me?

2:09:33

Yes.

2:09:34

Hi, my name is Jake Martyr.

2:09:36

I live off uh 4343 of Royal Palm Avenue.

2:09:40

I'm being involved in you who tenders a central role of my life.

2:09:51

Just be involved with the Houdin to further their mission of inspiring and guiding young professionals.

2:09:57

Uh I'm also here today to voice my strong support for the overlaying zoning.

2:10:01

This project isn't just about building, it's creating a hub that will really, I feel serve as a magnet for young couples and communities who want to build their lives in Miami Beach.

2:10:09

And I I feel like I speak not just for myself but for many members of community.

2:10:14

I see it as a real asset that will strengthen the neighborhood, encourage responsible growth, and provide a space for connection, education, and inspiration.

2:10:22

Thank you.

2:10:23

Thank you.

2:10:23

Our next virtual speaker is Sarah Banduho.

2:10:26

Please state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

2:10:33

Hi, my name is Sarah Van Duho.

2:10:35

I live at 2931 Sheridan Avenue in Miami Beach.

2:10:39

I am a single girl in my 20s in the community, and Yuhudi is one of the only organizations that caters to my demographic.

2:10:47

And I feel like allowing organizations like Yehudi to grow only brings in other young people like me, which is essential to the sustainability of our community.

2:10:56

So I just want to show my support.

2:10:58

Thank you.

2:10:59

Our next speaker is Yael.

2:11:01

Please state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

2:11:08

Please unmute yourself.

2:11:13

Yael, please unmute yourself.

2:11:18

They are not unmuting themselves, so and there's no one in the audience.

2:11:24

So we can proceed then.

2:11:26

It's called the vote.

2:11:27

It is a motion from Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Mayor Minor.

2:11:31

Commissioner Suarez is a yes.

2:11:33

Commissioner Dominguez.

2:11:34

Yes.

2:11:35

Commissioner Fernandez.

2:11:36

Yes.

2:11:36

Commissioner Bach.

2:11:38

Yes.

2:11:38

West Mayor Magazine.

2:11:39

Yes.

2:11:40

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

2:11:42

Yes.

2:11:43

Mayor Minor.

2:11:44

Yes.

2:11:44

Motion carry.

2:11:45

Second reading public hearing is scheduled for October 29th.

2:11:48

Thank you.

2:11:51

Robbie Stillerman, welcome.

2:11:58

Good morning.

2:11:59

My name is Rabbi Stromlo Stillerman.

2:12:01

Very, very proud member of Miami Beach community for almost 12 years now.

2:12:05

I live here with my wife, and we are raising seven beautiful children here.

2:12:09

I want to really thank this body for doing an incredible job on giving me and my family such a wonderful place to live.

2:12:16

Thank you, thank you.

2:12:21

I was uh very touched to see this morning that we honored uh David Shaffer.

2:12:26

Uh Holocaust survivor of my wife is the granddaughter of four Holocaust survivors, making all my seven children miracles.

2:12:35

The fact that any of them exist.

2:12:39

Yehudi was established by my wife and I 12 years ago with the mission to inspire.

2:12:47

And there's many ways of fighting anti-Semitism, but we believe the way to fight anti-Semitism is through education, through educating our youth, through educating the next generation, through inspiration, teaching a generation of Jews what it means to be a light amongst the nations, what it means to have integrity, to have love and to have kindness.

2:13:11

That's why Yehudi is here.

2:13:14

I'm grateful for everyone here who made Yehudi possible so far.

2:13:19

I do ask if you can have one consideration on the current amendment.

2:13:24

This amendment will allow Yehudi to do what we're doing, except it'll give us a roof over heads because most of our events are currently outside.

2:13:31

Many of them in the rain.

2:13:33

So the fact that we could build a place that would keep everyone inside and a lot of our people that come to sleep overnight or have to be by houses from family members and community members.

2:13:43

Now they'll have a place to sleep inside, so thank you.

2:13:46

Um but there's one thing I'd like you to consider.

2:13:49

Many people have met their uh husbands or wives at Yehudi.

2:13:53

And it's a time-honored custom.

2:13:57

A Jewish wedding should be under the stars.

2:14:01

And there should be uh there's a chupa, a canopy with a rabbi, a few friends and family.

2:14:08

To be under the stars means that when you start your your Jewish home, there's no barriers, there's no roof on top of you.

2:14:14

It's you and the Almighty, and you can bring the presence of the Almighty into your home.

2:14:20

Bring the presence of light into your home.

2:14:22

And I ask that the uh commission please uh not deny our students that right and that that experience.

2:14:30

Currently, the rooftop usage of anything built on 40th Street would be prohibited.

2:14:36

And I asked if you could please consider removing that uh restriction altogether, or at the very least, modifying it significantly so that we could have chuppas, we could have uh marriage ceremonies on the rooftop where they could see the ocean, they could see the sky, and they could build homes filled with Jewish values of love and kindness for many generations to come.

2:14:57

Thank you, thank you.

2:14:59

Um thank you, Robbie.

2:15:00

Um Thank you, Robbie Stillman.

2:15:01

I'm just gonna ask.

2:15:02

We actually just voted on the item, so I'm gonna ask Tom for some clarification.

2:15:06

I believe, and I don't want to put words in the rabbi's mouth that uh he has a concern with one of the provisions of the amendment that prohibits rooftop uses.

2:15:17

That's was that was a condition that was recommended by the land use committee, and it was included um in the draft of the ordinance.

2:15:25

Um it would be up to you to decide whether or not you would want to modify that or remove that, either now or um look at revised language between first and second reading.

2:15:36

Yeah, uh Commissioner Magazine.

2:15:38

Uh can I make a motion perhaps to uh our planning department to come back with an analysis of uh between now and second reading about how we would be able to incorporate that?

2:15:48

Sure.

2:15:49

Great.

2:15:50

Thank you.

2:15:51

Commissioner Bach.

2:15:53

Uh Rabbi, it it's a beautiful tradition.

2:15:56

Can you provide a little bit more color about how you would anticipate using the rooftop for would it be just the ceremony itself with just a limited number of participants, maybe you know, the people getting married, the the rabbi performing the service, and um you know, maybe immediate parents and then the celebrations would be inside.

2:16:17

I think the concern of the community as as it is always with rooftop activations is you know it's it everyone wants to have a party on the rooftop because why wouldn't you, right?

2:16:28

So if it's if it's the ceremony, I think when when we hear what what everybody has to say between first and second reading, that's one conversation.

2:16:37

If it's the entirety of the celebration, that's a very different conversation.

2:16:41

So maybe you could shed some light on what you imagine the usage exactly being since you're here.

2:16:46

That time in my house starts at six o'clock.

2:16:48

So I know it means to put kids to bed, and I wouldn't want there to be any parties on any rooftops.

2:16:53

Uh but if there's a noise restriction, I'd fully understand that uh like noise restriction from a certain point onwards, maybe it's 10 o'clock onwards.

2:17:00

The the ceremony is uh typically very like ambient music, light music.

2:17:05

Uh the parties are indoor, the the celebrations will be indoor.

2:17:09

Um maybe on the odd occasion on a Pura Murchanako or a couple of times a year to have something on the on the rooftop.

2:17:15

But uh the most of the celebrations, the the primary functions will be indoors, downstairs.

2:17:22

The but you know, when you're getting married, I got married here on the beach uh to my wife a couple years ago, 20 years ago, um, in the Deuville.

2:17:32

And if it's an outdoor wedding, you're you're thinking all day, please God, don't let it rain.

2:17:38

And that's all you're really thinking about.

2:17:40

And if for a young couple, they should really shouldn't have anything else to worry about.

2:17:43

They shouldn't have to worry about like how many people they bring hell out the music is or this, that let them get married, let them start off their their families without stress and with with love.

2:17:52

Thank you.

2:17:53

Thank you.

2:17:53

Commissioner Fernandez.

2:17:54

Thank you, Mr.

2:17:55

Mayor.

2:17:56

And Rabbi, thank you for this beautiful tradition you have brought into our community.

2:18:01

It really highlights the values of Miami Beach, especially our mid-beach community.

2:18:08

Uh, one of the things that's very important is that this overlay is designed to protect the residential character of the single family neighborhood.

2:18:17

And so I think you know, it has to be very carefully tailored, whatever language is considered and proposed because there are single family homes abutting, abutting Yehuri.

2:18:31

And the issue is that we're not just talking about Yehudi, we're talking about an overlay that's for all of 40th Street.

2:18:40

That in the future, then other properties, not Yahuri could come and ask for similar rooftop activations on their on their properties.

2:18:52

So I think you know, we need to look at that language.

2:18:56

That is, it's not a small amendment.

2:18:57

That's actually a pretty big amendment uh to the to the item.

2:19:01

Did the planning board considered rooftop activations, Tom?

2:19:06

No, the the language that went to the planning board included the current provision not permitting any type of rooftop activation, and that's what the planning board recommended.

2:19:15

And when the legislation started, it had rooftop activations, and then through the legislative crafting process, yeah, and hearing from the community and the meetings that were had, the rooftop was removed.

2:19:27

Is that correct?

2:19:28

That's correct.

2:19:28

Okay, so I just we have to be careful because there's there's a fine balance.

2:19:33

Uh and of course, this if there is a mission to be supported, it's this mission.

2:19:38

It's a beautiful mission, and it's and it's good uh for for for for Miami Beach, but we also have to protect the quality of the life of the abutting neighborhood.

2:19:49

And I say that because I love Jewish parties.

2:19:51

And you guys throw great parties, and there's always lots of music and lots of dancing.

2:20:00

Um and so we just have to be have the proper safeguards in place for the residents that are abutting the area.

2:20:06

And you add a lot when you come to those parties.

2:20:08

So thank you, Commissioner Fernandez.

2:20:10

Thank you.

2:20:11

Not the dancing, I'm not good with the dancing.

2:20:13

Yeah.

2:20:15

Okay, so this is this is passed on first reading without that uh amendment, and um we'll we'll it'll come back to us at second reading and we'll we'll review it.

2:20:24

So is that as amended then or as is.

2:20:27

So it's as is, and second reading public hearing is scheduled for October 29th.

2:20:31

That's what we're thank you.

2:20:35

Correct.

2:20:36

Thank you.

2:20:36

Just wanted to add my personal touch.

2:20:38

You know, we have so many residents and leaders in our city that adds so much to our city, often goes unrecognized.

2:20:43

We try to do it through proclamations and what have you to recognize people, but it's what makes our city so great and special.

2:20:48

But since you're here, Rob I still and I will give you a shot.

2:20:51

I've met personally many of the they're college students or or or graduate students, but uh young adults in their 20s, and you've changed our lives.

2:21:00

I've seen it, they've told me that.

2:21:02

Uh, they've met their spouses through you, they've grown professionally and spiritually.

2:21:06

So thank you for what you add to to our city and and and cultivating that in our in our city.

2:21:14

I want to call um, thank you.

2:21:16

I want to call R7M, as in Michael.

2:21:20

R7M is urge grantees pursue other sources of funding for budgetary constraints.

2:21:26

No, R7M.

2:21:27

M, okay, inclusion of notable cases on MBPD website.

2:21:32

So I brought I brought this item.

2:21:34

Uh I want us to start highlighting cases that um of crimes in our city that don't do not get the proper treatment, generally by the judiciary.

2:21:46

So what happens is we've taken so many steps as a commission, as a body, as a police department, to reduce crime.

2:21:53

And the numbers, the numbers are telling, and we're doing we're doing good work on that.

2:21:58

That being said, we we make arrests, but then it has to go through the system.

2:22:02

We have our municipal prosecution team, we're now prosecuting where we were on what and I'm very proud of the legislation that I brought that I brought on that, and and our commission has also signed on in so many different ways.

2:22:15

Well, ultimately, there's been a number of crimes in our city that in the last several years, where when you look back, they're not committing the crimes over and over in Miami Beach generally, because we are taking the actions, but they are committing the crime elsewhere.

2:22:29

And then they the they're literally just released on their own recognizes after committing a violent crime.

2:22:35

And then they come back and they go elsewhere, including Miami Beach, and then commit the crime.

2:22:40

We've had instances where it's literally just days after they've been released when it's so clear they should not be released.

2:22:45

I think it behooves us as a commission to know to highlight those cases.

2:22:51

We have to.

2:22:52

And we're not trying to uh embarrass anyone.

2:22:54

We're just giving the facts.

2:22:55

We're giving the facts as this is the this is the criminal history of this individual.

2:22:59

This is the crime they committed, and this is the action that was taken through the judiciary system.

2:23:04

We need to start highlighting that.

2:23:06

This item actually, I say that should be on our website.

2:23:09

I'd like to pro to propose if we could do it within this item, or I'll bring a separate item that we start doing it on social media.

2:23:15

It is um we had an incident a c a couple days ago.

2:23:17

An officer, one of our officers in making an arrest.

2:23:22

Luckily, this person had not uh not interacted or or or engaged with anyone from the public.

2:23:29

My understanding of the situation is that the police officer recognized, and this is through proactive visible policing that we've been pushing, and thank you for that, Chief Jones.

2:23:39

The officer through through his own proactive uh policing saw an individual who could be a threat.

2:23:46

And when they went to effectuate the arrest, he headbutted the officer in a very violent manner, causing the officer to have seven stitches, five five or seven stitches, going to the hospital.

2:23:57

I spoke to the officer, thank God he's doing well.

2:24:00

But this person has a criminal record that is unreal, mostly outside of our city, but some of it in it, and just continues to be back on our streets.

2:24:10

We need to start highlighting these cases for the judiciary.

2:24:13

And I'm very proud when we had this uh the prior, the prior uh there's now new leadership in the in the Miami Dade County judiciary, but the prior had brought in this bail reform that would have been devastating for our city.

2:24:28

And I'm very proud of it.

2:24:29

I I highlighted it.

2:24:31

Others highlighted it, Commissioner Fernandez.

2:24:33

I know you took a major lead on that.

2:24:34

Ultimately the governor stepped in.

2:24:36

But this we've seen this happen elsewhere in other other cities, and it does not end well.

2:24:42

It's and and this is to me another aspect of that.

2:24:46

So I'm gonna turn it to you, Chief Jones.

2:24:47

How do we get that done?

2:24:49

How do we start highlighting these cases?

2:24:51

And I'm gonna propose now that we do it on social media as well.

2:24:55

Uh good morning, uh, Wayne Jones, police chief, uh, mayor commission, city manager.

2:25:00

You know, um we have long held within the police department uh this idea that we want to show as much of what we do, how we do with uh public.

2:25:10

Um that's evident the fact that uh some time ago we stood up dashboards that shows our crime data in real time uh in many cases that are residents or anyone interested in learning what's happening with the police department at any given time can go to our website, click on a dashboard and see what's happening in their given neighborhood in terms of crime data.

2:25:28

We believe this is just another iteration of this, a sharing information with the community that we serve.

2:25:34

Uh the fact that highlighting um arrestees, uh particularly particularly folks we call um uh habitual offenders on our website, highlighting certain cases on our website.

2:25:44

We think it's the next iteration of that of task, uh, Captain Brown and his team to come up with a way to do that.

2:25:50

Um and uh he's working that diligently right now at some point near future.

2:25:54

We hope to have uh something we can put forward uh for you to you and your colleagues to view um and then give to the general public.

2:26:01

But just to be clear, uh I it's it's not only highlighting the arrestee, it's highlighting what happened in the the judicial system.

2:26:11

The case wasn't prosecuted, we highlight that.

2:26:14

But generally, I don't think that's so much as the issue as the judiciary is is releasing individuals on their own recognizance, they are lowering uh probation periods and releasing before the full probation period.

2:26:27

And we've seen instances where literally within days of a very lax ruling or release that this person goes out and commits a violent offense.

2:26:39

Yeah.

2:26:40

And I and I again I don't think we have to editorialize it.

2:26:44

We could just state the facts.

2:26:45

This is what happened.

2:26:46

This person was arrested for the 49th time.

2:26:48

I mean, these are people, let's be clear, we're not talking about people arrested once or twice.

2:26:52

We're talking about people who have been arrested 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 times.

2:26:56

Not all in our city, mostly not in our city, but elsewhere, and then they make their way here.

2:27:01

Yeah.

2:27:02

Um to some extent we have the ability to do it now.

2:27:05

We we have on our website today links to the Clicker Courts where someone can go to our website, click on those links and find out the information you you're suggesting the uh available.

2:27:15

But most people are not doing it.

2:27:16

It's too hard to do.

2:27:17

So we're gonna find a smart way to do it.

2:27:18

Yep.

2:27:19

Absolutely.

2:27:20

We're we're looking for a smarter way to do that, and Captain Brown has seemed to have been tasked with coming up with a way to do that, and so to make it easier and more efficient for someone to go to our website and easily find out this information.

2:27:29

How about on your social media?

2:27:31

Uh we can certainly look into that.

2:27:33

Uh Mr.

2:27:33

Mayor wasn't prepared to talk about social media today, but uh seems like I say that to you, Eric, as well, on our on our city of Miami Beach social media.

2:27:41

Uh and I think you kind of highlighted on it, Mayor.

2:27:46

You know, the important thing is gonna be walking that fine line between not embarrassing people but highlighting the facts.

2:27:53

So and and by the way, I I agree.

2:27:56

Uh it there's an there's an extent that it will be embarrassing, but uh I think we should take the it should be the facts.

2:28:02

If embarrasses someone it embarrasses someone, uh but ultimately we're just stating the facts.

2:28:07

This is what happened, and we're highlighting it.

2:28:09

People should know the information.

2:28:10

It's very difficult.

2:28:11

I've spent so much time on this.

2:28:13

Um, the judiciary the what happens after a person's arrest is so murky.

2:28:19

We've pushed, and I'm appreciative that we've made more information available in the last couple of years internally, but it is very murky and very difficult to find out exactly what is happening through the court system.

2:28:29

And that is, in my opinion, I'm giving I'm editing now.

2:28:32

I'm editorializing.

2:28:34

I think it's by design.

2:28:35

I think it's by design how difficult it is to realize what's going on.

2:28:38

And all I'm saying is that we as a city should make that as transparent as possible so people can see and they make their own decisions.

2:28:44

Judges are elected officials just like we are.

2:28:46

Uh and people should know, should know the decisions they are making.

2:28:51

Just like they know the decisions we make.

2:28:53

Uh, Commissioner Fernandez and then Commissioner Magazine.

2:28:56

Thank you, Mr.

2:28:56

Mayor.

2:28:57

And you mentioned a situation where 49 times the individual of us arrested.

2:29:01

Uh sometimes more.

2:29:03

That is incredible.

2:29:04

And you know, just and just looking at this at this resolution, uh, where you mentioned in here Perry Smith.

2:29:11

Perry Smith, who um who was released uh from custody after being arrested for assaulting Joe Manning in 2024, then proceeded to batter an out-of-the-country tourist.

2:29:24

Okay.

2:29:25

In 2025, just a few months after us having a plea bargain on those two cases, he was rearrested for battering a German sports journalist who came here to Miami Beach.

2:29:38

And then we know in 2024, there was another person, um, an accused serial burglar and a repeat offender who pointed a gun to our colleague, Commissioner Magazine, and then he was released from custody just several months after that incident, and he removed his ankle monitor and was underrun.

2:30:01

And now, Chief, I have a question.

2:30:03

When these individuals get arrested and they get released, do they have a car to get back to Miami Beach?

2:30:11

Um short answers oftentimes no.

2:30:14

No.

2:30:14

Do they think they walk back to Miami Beach from TGK all the way in Durral back over here?

2:30:20

No, sir.

2:30:21

Chiefly use public transportation to get back here.

2:30:23

They use public transportation.

2:30:25

They are coming to Miami Beach back on the bus that our tax dollars is paying for.

2:30:33

And that is the biggest problem that we have.

2:30:37

The judges who are allowing them to be released, and then the facilitating of a bus ticket to send them back, not to the continuum of care for them to get services, not to into re-entry services, uh, not to job training so they can better their lives, sending them back to someone else's backyard, to our backyard, to the backyard of the taxpayers and the residents of the city of Miami Beach who are becoming the victims of these criminals.

2:31:07

And I think we need to stand up.

2:31:10

We need to go back and lobby Miami Dave County to end once and for all that bus ticket that is sending criminals back to where?

2:31:20

To our community.

2:31:21

Where to batter our elderly, to point guns at our colleagues, to attack our tourists, to harm our police officers.

2:31:32

It's time for it to end, and it has to end now because we're not only an economic engine for Miami Dade County, we are an economic engine for the state of Florida.

2:31:40

And that bus ticket is just sending criminals back to our beautiful paradise.

2:31:46

Commissioner Magazine, Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

2:31:48

Thank you, Mr.

2:31:49

Mayor.

2:31:49

Uh community is only as strong as our weakest link.

2:31:53

And we have the best police department in the entire country.

2:31:58

The men and women of the Miami Beach Police Department put your lives on the line continuously.

2:32:03

You did it for the situation, Commissioner Fernandez referenced with me, where your officers approached and apprehended.

2:32:10

Somebody that they knew was of uh probably ill mind with a looted weapon.

2:32:17

And you do so continuously.

2:32:19

I saw you do so uh from my apartment just several weeks ago on Seventh in Euclid.

2:32:24

We have the best men and women in the entire country serving our city.

2:32:28

We have a legislative body that is absolutely unified in providing the safest, cleanest city in the entire world, right?

2:32:38

But our weak link is the judiciary system.

2:32:42

And that puts all of our efforts, not renders them for naught, but it greatly reduces that, because as I said, you're only as strong as your weakest link.

2:32:52

And it is ironic, whether by design or not, that that is the most opaque part of this entire system.

2:33:01

When people constituents come to me, they say, Well, how are these people back out?

2:33:05

I I don't have a great answer for them, and I'm somebody that follows this day in, day out.

2:33:10

So perhaps we do need to embarrass people.

2:33:13

Perhaps we do.

2:33:14

Because if we don't, what does that result in?

2:33:17

Before the violent incident that was referenced in Sutnik Hour today, there was another viral incident in North Carolina that we all saw come across our computer screens in social media last week, where a young girl had her throat slit on public transportation.

2:33:34

And I still can't bring myself to watch that video.

2:33:38

I stop it, but the part I will never ever get out of my mind is seeing her eyes open up and look up if she knew something was about to happen.

2:33:48

And as the father of a young daughter, I'll never get that out of my mind, seeing just the helplessness there.

2:33:54

And why is that?

2:33:56

Because the judicial system failed.

2:33:59

That monster was arrested time after time after time, and there was no accountability.

2:34:07

He should have never been walking that street.

2:34:09

And because he was that young girl and her family's lives are either gone or changed forever.

2:34:16

And that hurt me as a human being, even though it happened in North Carolina.

2:34:21

I couldn't live with myself if that happened in our city to one of our residents.

2:34:26

And we're doing our job up here, and you are doing your job.

2:34:30

We need to hold the people accountable that are not doing their job.

2:34:33

And this is the way to do so.

2:34:34

Thank you.

2:34:35

Thank you, Commissioner Magazine.

2:34:36

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

2:34:41

I don't I like this item.

2:34:43

I mean, I'm looking at our crime statistics right now and year over year.

2:34:47

Aggravated batteries and assaults are now up by 15%.

2:34:49

Not blaming the police because I think this is a judicial issue.

2:34:53

Um, some of our policies, sexual batteries now up 150% year over year.

2:35:00

So it's very concerning.

2:35:02

Um what I would say is that these people that are being arrested at time and time again, this is obviously mental illness.

2:35:09

And I think that there's a few things that we can do, apart from the bus ticket item that I have here right now, and that's possibly not you know, not reaching these convictions or plea deals and actually taking them to trial and insisting because what we're doing right now is we're reaching um a plea deal, they're getting out on time served, and it's it's not the police department's fault because they're arresting again and again and again.

2:35:35

Um I really think that we have to stop trying to get these convictions so we can say our conviction rate is so high because what's the point of getting a conviction if they're just getting arrested again and again and again?

2:35:47

Um well, I I I I understand that you think that when we get to a certain amount of convictions, that this is a positive thing, but it's costing a lot of money.

2:35:57

Um I'm not saying to to stop uh doing it, and I'm not sure that the police department wants to constantly post uh criminals on their social media.

2:36:07

I do know that Miami Crime and Prevention does this successfully, and they are extremely frustrated with what they see as the prosecution.

2:36:16

Um striking these plea deals, uh, the homeless, many of the times who are committing these crimes, they're released on their own recognizance, they're back out on the street immediately, and um we need to stand our ground and say we're going to trial.

2:36:32

So I'm not quite sure is this just to get a higher conviction rate, because I think that's really where the problem is.

2:36:38

We can say, oh, we have this great conviction rate, but if you see that sexual batteries up 150% year over year, at a time when sexual batteries down by 50 percent in the city of Miami, okay, and you see that aggravated assault and battery, and I know the other day, mayor, you said aggravated assault isn't so bad.

2:36:55

It is, it's aggravated assault and battery.

2:36:57

So people are getting beaten up, and that is now what 15 percent.

2:37:01

I thought it was up only 10 percent.

2:37:02

It's up 15 percent.

2:37:04

And that's because we can do better at the court system.

2:37:08

We've invested in it, and I think that we need to really push through and no longer seek these plea deals just to have a high conviction rate, so we can go around saying, hey, we're doing great when we're not.

2:37:20

So I don't know how you feel about the bus ticket item.

2:37:23

I didn't have an opportunity to speak to you about it, but I'm thinking that you know, as a pilot program, this might go a long way in asking some of these people to leave the city um and see if they take us up on our offer, at least leave Miami Dade County.

2:37:37

And I would call that item separately.

2:37:38

Um I I vehemently disagree with much of what you said, and I'll I'll try to parse it out and I'll turn to the chief.

2:37:43

I also appreciate if we don't do politics and campaigning from from the dais.

2:37:47

I don't think it's politics, it's numbers, stats, and facts.

2:37:50

Yes.

2:37:51

So the reason our prosecution, and I and we have uh the head of our prosecution team here as well.

2:37:56

It is it is a fact, and it absolutely has worked to have the convictions because we used to have individuals in our city that committed multiple crimes over and over again.

2:38:07

That is actually not happening nearly as much.

2:38:10

That has been reduced significantly, and I'll and I'll turn and I'll let I'll let the police chief and our our our head prosecutor address that.

2:38:18

What we are seeing though is people committing crimes in other cities and then come here, uh obviously individuals are mobile, but the conviction rate absolutely works because absent a conviction, the arrest is meaningless.

2:38:31

Now, obviously, if a person gets arrested, it could have an impact in their life.

2:38:34

I'm not just saying an arrest is is is meaningless and in a vacuum, but I'm talking about people who are arrested over and over again.

2:38:39

Absent a conviction, the judge and the judiciary system cannot, cannot then assess that for future um adjudication.

2:38:48

So the convictions have worked, they have worked, and we've also done other things.

2:38:52

We offer programs.

2:38:53

I mean, it's not just the convictions, we offer court options, we offer mental health rehabilitation.

2:38:59

So there's no question that that is helping.

2:39:01

I'll turn it to you.

2:39:02

But I also before we turn it to the prosecution, I'd like to turn um because the police department, it's not me saying it.

2:39:08

I just cite the statistics that the police department provides.

2:39:11

Major crimes are down about 16 percent.

2:39:13

Our homeless count is literally the lowest that we've had in at least a decade.

2:39:18

I'd like to let you, I'll let you address that, Chief.

2:39:20

Well, thank you, Mr.

2:39:21

Mayor.

2:39:22

And you're absolutely correct.

2:39:22

Um the data yeast side is that I provide you, and I stand by uh data.

2:39:27

Really proud of work to manage my B Speech Department doing a daily basis.

2:39:31

The fact that our crime is down across the board, the fact that people feel safer today than they did years ago, I think is a testament of work that my cops do every day, uh being visible, addressing um offenders like Perry Smith that tend to uh somehow um uh escape going to prison for lengthy periods of time and come back to our community and and victimize people over again and again and again.

2:39:54

And each time he does, we find them, we arrest them, you send them back to jail.

2:40:00

So standby crime numbers, stand by the good work, the men and women of my beast police department do on a daily basis to keep the city safe.

2:40:04

Can we address the homeless count as well?

2:40:05

I mean, that's the numbers coming from the homeless trust, correct?

2:40:07

Home discount is down as compared to uh previous years.

2:40:10

I think the Lewis has been um taking aside uh the year of COVID.

2:40:16

Uh lowest has been in 10 years.

2:40:17

I think it's a direct result of uh collaborative efforts with uh my police department and the city's homeless outreach team led by Dr.

2:40:25

Atier, I'm sure he's here, can speak on some of the work we do.

2:40:28

Each day my cops go out and address a couple of things.

2:40:31

One, they address um uh quality of life issues oftentimes committed by a homeless population, and they provide um when uh accepted services to these homeless individuals to try and get them off the street.

2:40:43

Uh I think it's a fantastic formula's work year after year.

2:40:46

In fact, we've been so successful that other municipalities, other police departments, other cities and states around the country have reached out to us to find out how we do it.

2:40:56

Um and we've taught them how to do it and get better uh better at dealing with the homeless population.

2:41:00

Very proud of work that's being done, sir.

2:41:02

Thank you, and I'll talk to Mark Fishman.

2:41:04

Yeah, thank you, Mayor.

2:41:05

Good morning, everyone.

2:41:06

Yeah, and Mark Fishman, City Attorney's Office.

2:41:08

And I'd just like to be clear and remind everyone uh that the reason our municipal prosecution program started in January of 2018 was because we looked at, we were paying the state attorney's office to prosecute our city code criminal city code violations on behalf of us, which the other 33 municipalities in Miami County continue to do so.

2:41:27

When we looked at the statistics, they were either null processing themselves or allowing the judges to illegally dismiss 93, 94 percent of our criminal ordinance violations.

2:41:39

It was to the point where our police officers, we had repeatedly hear from our police, I'd hear from the police chief.

2:41:44

I had an office next door to the last three police chiefs.

2:41:47

We'd continue to hear the officers would be taunted by the defendants who would be arrested, and the defendants would laugh at our officers and tell them, I'm gonna be back here on the street of Miami Beach before you arrive back here for your next shift.

2:41:59

I cannot tell you what that would do to the morale of our police officers who nonetheless continue to still do their residents in our in our residence, of course.

2:42:08

But the point was that they were not being prosecuted, there were no repercussions.

2:42:11

Then when that person would get arrested again and they'd go to court, they have no convictions.

2:42:16

Judge says this is a first-time offender.

2:42:18

And again, the case would get dismissed, so it didn't matter.

2:42:20

This was just a never-ending cycle.

2:42:22

So now we go and we prosecute.

2:42:24

Again, remember.

2:42:25

I'll I'll just remind I brought legislation requiring our prosecution of the cases, and if the judge dismisses it without a basis, we're going to appeal.

2:42:33

And that happened right away.

2:42:34

They tested us, we appealed and we won, and they stopped dismissing them.

2:42:37

Correct.

2:42:38

Several times that happened, Mayor.

2:42:39

They dismissed our cases because they were used to doing that when the state was prosecuting our cases, and when the state's prosecuting if the other 33 municipalities, they're used to dismissing.

2:42:46

They did that a few times in ours.

2:42:48

We appealed them just like you had said, and we uh succeeded, we're successful in all the appeals.

2:42:52

The cases got reinstated, and they don't longer do that.

2:42:54

Um, but the the important thing to remember too is we only prosecute city code violations.

2:42:59

The maximum time we can get in jail on any defendant for our you know drinking in public, smoking in public, can't be, is 60 days in jail.

2:43:06

But the other critical thing to remember is this.

2:43:09

The judges can do anything except dismiss the case, they can do anything on our cases.

2:43:15

They have complete and unfettered discretion.

2:43:17

They can release someone on their own recognizance, they can deny motions, deny continuances.

2:43:22

Heck, they're the they're the they're the trier of the fact.

2:43:25

If we go to a trial, it's the judge who determines guilty or innocent.

2:43:28

Unless we'd like to have a full jury trial with six jures, then we have to convince six citizens that this person's drinking in public or smoking in public or whatever it is is a crime, and that's fine.

2:43:38

But even if the jury finds the person guilty, the six jurors unanimously agree, it's the judge who decides the sentence.

2:43:45

It's the judge who decides the sentence.

2:43:47

So at the end of the day, we can't escape it.

2:43:49

We have to, you know, deal with that.

2:43:51

So we always try and secure convictions the best we can.

2:43:54

But you know, it's we're we just are limited with what we can do.

2:43:57

But I definitely stand by our work.

2:43:58

Our work has been spectacular.

2:44:00

We have a successful prosecution rate of over 90 percent, when before it was a dismissal rate of over 90 percent.

2:44:05

Um so I I think we do an amazing job.

2:44:08

And thank you for your work.

2:44:09

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

2:44:11

Do you think the state attorney's office is going to consider this a hostile act if we post the judge's name attached to these cases on our website?

2:44:20

I just want to know because I think that you know, have we sat down with the state attorney's office and spoken to them about this and actually had a conversation before we go and start posting judges' names on the website.

2:44:32

I just want if they can do whatever they want, and they will, then if you antagonize them with something like this, then it might work against Miami Beach instead of for it.

2:44:42

I think starting out with a conversation would probably be a more diplomatic way to this.

2:44:51

Yeah, if I could just briefly answer, I first of all it's not the state attorney's office.

2:44:54

I I believe maybe they won't say it publicly, the state attorney's office would love this.

2:44:58

They face the same problems we do.

2:45:00

It's the the judiciary that might have have an issue.

2:45:03

And by the way, for my because I speak to some of the some of the judges are good on this, and and they're frustrated too.

2:45:08

They don't like when their colleagues um dismiss these these cases.

2:45:12

Some of them are Miami Beach residents as well, or they live in Miami Day County, sir, certainly.

2:45:16

But uh Mark.

2:45:17

Yeah, no, thank you.

2:45:17

And I I I you know that that was that was a concern.

2:45:20

That was something that you know the mayor and I had discussed, and I think the way his previous resolution and this resolution will be played out is it's not just you know saying what the defendant did and you know who the judge is and what the judge has done or has failed to do on the case.

2:45:33

It really lays out just facts for residents, but it's all inclusive.

2:45:36

It's defendant's name, the arrest date, the charges, the case number, the next hearing court date, what has happened in the case, the facts of the case, the name of the judge.

2:45:45

So it's all it's everything, just providing factual information to our residents, and the judge's name and identity is just one factual component that will be posted.

2:45:54

It's not just singling out judges with this judge did this on this case.

2:45:57

It's it's just providing comprehensive factual information for our residents uh to follow in an easy format.

2:46:04

Um one more question.

2:46:06

These judges that are dismissing the cases.

2:46:08

Have you reached out to them and had a conversation with them?

2:46:12

Yeah, yeah, we did that.

2:46:13

We did that.

2:46:13

This was several years ago, uh, almost when we first started our program.

2:46:16

They dismissed some of our cases, and we immediately appealed them.

2:46:20

They don't like to be appealed.

2:46:21

They got reversed by the higher court.

2:46:23

The case came back to them.

2:46:24

We sat down with then Chief Judge Robin Faber uh and another judge, I can't recall which one.

2:46:29

We sat down with a second judge, and they no longer dismiss our cases.

2:46:32

And I also, for what it's worth, don't believe that they're dismissing the the state attorney's office cases, the higher level crimes, the first degree misdemeanors and the felonies.

2:46:40

I think what might be happening is uh the state might be sort of limited in some regards with what it can do based on their own issues and based upon um certain judiciary issues.

2:46:50

But they're not they're not dismissing those cases, they're not just shouldn't be dismissing uh any of our cases at this point.

2:46:57

I feel like we should schedule a meeting and have everyone in the room together and talk about this and have a conversation.

2:47:03

You've done that with the state attorney with all of us in the room with our municipal prosecution team, everyone sitting at a table and explain with a few victims and say, look at what we're going through right now, and and appeal to these judges.

2:47:15

Have we done that?

2:47:16

I've met with the judges too.

2:47:21

Commissioner I mean it's I don't know.

2:47:25

Um I've two thoughts.

2:47:27

One, um, you know, when I was uh on the board of MBU, we started a um commissioner scorecard, and it put out for each piece of legislation that Miami Beach United took a position on, um, how the commission voted, whether they supported it or did not, as per the recommendation of Miami Beach United.

2:47:47

It's not singling anyone out, it's just a an aggregation of the voting record on those whatever hundred items that over the course of a year.

2:47:55

That is another option, in addition to what the mayor is suggesting to hold these judges accountable.

2:48:03

I you know, I'm I'm a huge supporter of due process and um everybody getting a fair shake at court.

2:48:10

But um if people are coming in and being um released on their own recognizance or you know time served when they are repeat offenders and have a wrap sheet as long as they're you know, voters when we have elections, everybody turns to everybody else say, What are you doing about the judges?

2:48:28

Like nobody knows what to do about the judges, right?

2:48:30

It's it's probably the hardest elected uh uh position to get information about.

2:48:34

And this might be um a way to hold people accountable for their work output, basically.

2:48:42

It's not an intent to embarrass anybody, but let the residents of Miami Beach know what's going on.

2:48:48

Maybe that's for later time.

2:48:50

It was it's a thought.

2:48:52

Um the first thing I wanted to talk about and putting on my background as a marketing and branding professional.

2:48:59

Um, having this data come out on a website on the police social media platforms, I think makes a lot of sense.

2:49:07

I would be very leery about putting this data out on the Miami Beach uh platforms, specifically Instagram.

2:49:17

I might be less concerned about um our Facebook page, but it seems like this is something that should have its own channel of output because the social media that we use for the city of Miami Beach, I'm not talking about the police department or the Facebook page by residents, has been carefully built and curated and does a specific job.

2:49:40

It's a very, very specific job.

2:49:42

I mean, if you went to the GMCVB and said, hey, we're gonna put out these crime stats on our social media posts, they would have absolute heart attacks.

2:49:50

So I I do like the idea of sharing this aggregated information with, you know, here's the facts, nothing but the facts, so that people can stay informed and follow up, but let's be very mindful about where we place it.

2:50:01

We don't want to say, hey, coming over spring break is great, the water is wonderful, the weather's fabulous, the food's excellent.

2:50:08

Look at all the health and fitness stuff we're going.

2:50:09

But hey, by the way.

2:50:11

Here's a judge who just released the criminal.

2:50:12

Yeah.

2:50:13

Avoid this guy.

2:50:15

Yeah.

2:50:16

Thank you.

2:50:17

Okay.

2:50:17

So what I'd like to do today is we have a resolution relating to the uh Miami Beach uh police uh portion of the website to put this data.

2:50:27

So I'd like to pass that today.

2:50:29

I I will bring back a separate item dealing with some other ideas incorporating what you just said as well, Commissioner Commissioner Bott, and and uh on the police social media.

2:50:38

Um so I'll bring that for next meeting.

2:50:40

I'll move the item.

2:50:41

And it's me as a co-sponsor.

2:50:43

Thanks.

2:50:45

Yeah.

2:50:47

As amended that it be a separate, not the main profile of the city.

2:50:51

If I may through the chair, I think that we will be addressing the social media components through a separate item next meeting.

2:50:59

And I and I I'll add we've we've really cultivated, I know you have Mark and I have with the state attorney's office.

2:51:05

For example, our municipal prosecution team has to work in in and co in in uh collaboratively.

2:51:11

Uh one example early on that was an issue was that the state attorney's office handles felonies.

2:51:17

We handle the state sort of our our city ordinance that uh as the munici of the misdemeanor equivalent.

2:51:23

But early on, this is going back four or five years ago when I had brought this legislation, the state attorneys might not ultimately bring the felony charge for whatever reason, maybe a witness doesn't show up, but we could still prosecute the misdemeanor, but we wouldn't know.

2:51:37

So we wouldn't get heads up.

2:51:39

So and then the the Facebook page rightfully and did a good service by pointing out, hey, why is this case being dismissed?

2:51:45

Well, we've resolved that.

2:51:46

And it's through we reached out.

2:51:47

I reached out to uh our state attorney's office, Cathy Fernandez uh Rundell and her deputies, and they've done a really good job of working together with us, and um so I I think we have a good uh a good system going with our prosecution team, and I'm I'm I'm really proud of the work that's being done.

2:52:02

And Mr.

2:52:02

Mayor, I just want to echo PS the state attorney's office is working hard.

2:52:06

And they face great challenges because the state limits the salaries of the prosecutors.

2:52:11

The people who we charge to go into court to fight for us, to fight for the justice of the community, for the justice of the victims, they're one of the least paid public servants.

2:52:22

And and and so the state attorney, Kathy Fernandes Rundle, she really tries her best to fight for us for our justice, but we need she needs strong, capable, well-paid attorneys that will stay there through the course of a career to really fight, fight for us.

2:52:40

But in the meantime, the judges, the judges are the ones that need to be held accountable.

2:52:45

Yeah, and and the reason why we're a great supplement to the state attorney's office is they have to they have to to an extent focus on those uh felonies and perhaps uh misdemeanors where there's uh habitual offenders, but we're adding tremendous value by having a handful of prosecutors.

2:53:00

What do we have?

2:53:00

Four prosecutors?

2:53:01

We have three full-time prosecutors and one who does weekends and holiday volunteering.

2:53:05

I don't want to say their salaries uh publicly, but they are not like you say, Commissioner Fernandez, they are not the highest paid public servants, but they are so valuable.

2:53:14

Um they're really sort of, you know, we see the police officers out on the street, but our prosecutors are out there fighting uh for for our residence and safety um uh uh in a big way.

2:53:24

So uh I'm proud of that work.

2:53:26

But you you are correct, Commissioner Fernandez, the state attorney's office um is is has to handle felonies.

2:53:32

But I'll I gotta tell you when I did meet with a group of judges, I I was I was actually really disheartened because what I heard from them was you know, we're judges of Miami Dade County.

2:53:42

We see all types of brutal crimes and murders and and and and the worst, unfortunately, of humanity, and Miami Beach, like we're seeing a homeless person who's arrested or criminal mischief.

2:53:54

But we take those crimes seriously here in Miami Beach.

2:53:57

We do not, we do not say, well, that's okay, it's just a misdemeanor.

2:54:01

We're even trying to prevent, and you brought this item, Commissioner Bot that I'm co-priming with you about uh making sure businesses prosecute um uh prosecute shoplifters.

2:54:11

I mean, we are taking every level seriously here, and unfortunately, what we're seeing, and and it was said to my face by the judiciary there, the own judges said to me, we can't, this is not this is not the priority.

2:54:23

Um, and we need to change that narrative.

2:54:25

Can I add something to that?

2:54:27

Um, you know, mental health professionals talk about your wound is not less valid than somebody else's wound.

2:54:35

Um, you know, somebody is dealing with cancer, somebody else lost a child, somebody else, you know, um lost a job.

2:54:44

Those are not ranked injuries.

2:54:47

Those are all incredibly real injuries to people going through those things and experiencing them.

2:54:54

And for the judicial body to say effectively that that our wounds don't count because they're not as grievous as other wounds.

2:55:01

I mean, nobody says that about laws when they're being written.

2:55:04

I mean, if you're it's a felony, it's a felony.

2:55:05

If it's a misdemeanor, it's a misdemeanor.

2:55:07

So proceed accordingly.

2:55:08

Um it's I I did not know that that was their response to you, and that is really underwhelming and not how laws and and the judicial process is supposed to um to work.

2:55:20

And I I find it quite disheartening as well.

2:55:22

So if if I may, I'd like to also be uh a co-sponsor on this item, Ralph.

2:55:26

And I will I'll like to, if with your permission, um work with you on the next item you're gonna bring.

2:55:32

Uh I I would love that.

2:55:33

Thank you, Commissioner.

2:55:33

But I will add there are some good judges up, like everything else.

2:55:36

So I'm obviously um uh we're but we need to highlight in transparency and we should show uh you with the data we're putting out.

2:55:41

People will see who the judges who are taking crime seriously and the judges who are not.

2:55:45

And by the way, it's up to the electorate.

2:55:46

They'll ultimately vote for these individuals if they want to vote for a judge who's locks on crime.

2:55:50

I don't think that'll be the case here in Miami Beach.

2:55:52

They can they they can certainly do that, but we're just providing the information.

2:55:55

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

2:55:57

Just one final question, and it's for the chief.

2:56:00

With all of this stuff that we're doing, why are we up in some of these categories?

2:56:04

What's going on?

2:56:05

And specifically, like the aggravated assaults and the sexual assaults.

2:56:10

Yeah, I haven't looked at the numbers today, but but I can tell you it's just not unusual from time to time for us to be up in certain categories, particularly when you factor in year to date that we went through spring break more the weekend when our crime numbers seem to uh tend to peak as we get into the fall months like we are now.

2:56:26

Um those those tend to decline.

2:56:28

So at the end of the year, I I I predict we're gonna be lower across every category than we were last year.

2:56:35

And just uh for just for clarity for anybody watching, what's the definition of assault?

2:56:39

Um uh uh assault is unin uh threatened uh of an intentional touching.

2:56:46

So a battery is where you you hit an individual, is an assault is where you threaten to do so, and the person believes you could do so, but you don't actually commit the offense, commit the battery.

2:56:56

But the category is actually aggravated assault and battery.

2:57:00

Which are collapse now.

2:57:01

They used to be separate categories, but now under the data that's collected, they've now uh they've now put them together, correct?

2:57:07

You're they're collapse.

2:57:09

In addition to that, you know, I think there's a slight uptick this year compared to C and period last year in domestic related uh batteries and assaults, and there's really little the police can do to sort of prevent those things from happening.

2:57:22

I just like to be clear that our our prosecution team does not prosecute aggravated batteries, aggravate assaults, or even domestic batteries.

2:57:28

Um I just wanted to make that that clear.

2:57:30

What are overall our crime numbers this year, year today?

2:57:34

Uh I didn't bring with me, I'd have to get back to you on that.

2:57:36

I mean, you posted it on your social media just the other day.

2:57:38

Yeah, it did, but I can't give you the exact numbers.

2:57:40

I think you wrote it.

2:57:41

Yeah, major crimes are down 15.55 percent.

2:57:43

Uh just oh almost 16 percent.

2:57:45

Yeah, but I can't give you the exact numbers compared to senior.

2:57:48

Let's call the vote.

2:57:48

Oh, Commissioner Bot.

2:57:49

Mark, what why don't you prosecute or why don't we prosecute those categories?

2:57:53

Those are felony offenses.

2:57:54

Oh, okay.

2:57:56

Let's call the vote.

2:57:57

So motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Mayor Minor, co-sponsored by Commissioner Fernandez, Suarez, and Bot, as is on R7M.

2:58:05

All in favor, please say aye.

2:58:07

Aye.

2:58:07

Aye.

2:58:07

Anyone opposed?

2:58:09

Hearing none, the item is approved 70R7M.

2:58:12

And thank you to our police department, our prosecution team, really appreciate all the hard work.

2:58:18

Uh R5K.

2:58:25

R5K is the normal mayor of City Commission of City by Beach Florida.

2:58:28

I mean, Chapter 2 of the Code of the City of Miami Beach and South Administration, Article 7 entitled Standard of Conduct, Division 3, and title Lobbyist by amending Section 2-481 and title definitions to amend definitions applicable to divisions by amending revising the title for section 2-43 exceptions to registration, written disclosure requirements for persons excluded from the definition of lobbyist to clarify and restate the written disclosure requirements for person excluded from the definition of lobbyists by amending section 2-485.1 penalties to clarify provisions related to the enforcement by Miami Dade County Commission on Ethics by amending section 2-485.3 contingency fee prohibited to adopt clarifying amendments to the prohibition on the giving or acceptance of contingency fee in the connection with the appearances before the city.

2:59:17

This is item R5K.

2:59:18

It is a second reading public hearing.

2:59:20

Thank you, Rob.

2:59:21

Hi, Mayor.

2:59:22

I'd like to make a motion to defer this item.

2:59:25

I had conversations with the city attorney's office with several neighborhood associations.

2:59:30

None of them were consulted in this item, so it's not fully baked.

2:59:35

Um I think there needs to be more time in order to get this right.

2:59:39

So I'd like to just prevent my own.

2:59:41

If I have a second, I'd like to put to defer it.

2:59:44

I'll turn it over to our city attorney for procedure.

2:59:47

I believe a motion.

2:59:50

Um defer would would take precedence.

2:59:53

I would just like to make my I would just like to make my presentation, and then you guys can more than happy to make your motion.

3:00:00

I just like the ability to speak.

3:00:02

There's a lot of residents here from Bel Isle and online who wish to be educated on the subject and what happens.

3:00:10

So I'm gonna turn to our city attorney just for uh procedurally.

3:00:16

Well uh procedurally, the motion to defer does does have precedence.

3:00:20

All right, let's call the vote.

3:00:23

Motion by Commissioner Dominguez, seconded by Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

3:00:28

Again, uh colleagues, I would just like to go with excuse me.

3:00:31

I would just like to go ahead and present my case.

3:00:34

You guys can be more than happy to uh present.

3:00:37

If after this item I have the privilege of presenting um uh a presentation, that's also fine with me if it's up to the mayor.

3:00:47

Mr.

3:00:47

City Attorney, the motion to defer takes precedence, and the city clerk was in the process of collecting the votes.

3:00:54

So motion by Commissioner Dominguez, seconded by Commissioner Bosa Gonzalez, motion to defer to October 29th.

3:01:00

All in favor, please say aye.

3:01:02

Aye.

3:01:02

Anyone opposed?

3:01:03

Nay.

3:01:04

One no.

3:01:05

The motion motion.

3:01:07

I'm opposed if somebody's bringing an item, but the five-two motion.

3:01:12

No, like I I have no idea what's happening.

3:01:14

Yeah, I actually I don't even I don't even know what the item is gonna be, but uh but there's a lot going on, I'm not reading between the lines.

3:01:28

Mr.

3:01:28

Mayor, I I would uh Suarez.

3:01:31

If if I could have a point of personal privilege to have a my presentation shown.

3:01:35

I I don't I I don't have that, I don't know if I have that ability.

3:01:38

That's why I keep turning to our city attorney because I'm gonna let I'm gonna let our city attorney make the make that determination as to what procedurally is allowed or not allowed.

3:01:48

Um I believe that if if the commissioner is making a point of personal privilege, you would have the discretion to decide how to proceed.

3:01:59

Well, I gotta I mean if if if the vote is to defer the item, then we're gonna defer the item.

3:02:06

We can defer the item.

3:02:07

However, I'd like to have a point of personal privilege to have a presentation.

3:02:10

There are again a lot of people here and online who would like to hear what I have to say.

3:02:16

Uh I certainly don't like I think more open dialogue is good for the city of my beach.

3:02:22

This is why I'm bringing this ordinance to begin with, is to make sure that everyone this is a transparent process.

3:02:30

The fact that I'm trying to be silenced uh on this particular item is uh I think egregious.

3:02:37

So I simply would through the mayor.

3:02:39

I'd like to have just carry on with my presentation.

3:02:42

You know, the motion has already been deferred and it's not transparent because I spoke with the city attorney's office.

3:02:48

I also spoke with outside counsel, and I spoke with five neighborhood associations.

3:02:52

They do nothing about it.

3:02:53

This item was not ready, and they feel that you are trying to stifle and silence the residents by making it more difficult for them to speak.

3:03:03

So the motion has been deferred.

3:03:06

I'm just been supported.

3:03:08

Mr.

3:03:08

Mayor.

3:03:08

And I think that's a good question.

3:03:09

Can you move on to the next item?

3:03:11

For the item.

3:03:12

Who's here for the item?

3:03:14

These people are using one, two, three.

3:03:18

And how many are online?

3:03:19

Online, it's growing.

3:03:21

I have eight so far.

3:03:24

He just sent an email and it was a deceptive email to get people to get online.

3:03:31

Rick, if we have we have a motion to defer it.

3:03:34

It looks like we have the was it can we count the votes?

3:03:38

Well, I think Commissioner Magazine hadn't made a determination yet.

3:03:40

I don't want to speak for you.

3:03:42

I think no idea what's happening.

3:03:44

What but what happens?

3:03:45

Ultimately, uh Commissioner Suarez has brought an item.

3:03:48

There's been a motion to defer.

3:03:50

What happens at the next meeting?

3:03:52

I mean, could that could you keep doing this every month and he never gets his item heard?

3:03:55

I'm trying to figure out what procedurally happens.

3:03:58

Well, the the item is being deferred for today.

3:04:02

Commissioner Suarez is asking as a point of personal privilege to to make a presentation, and that is within your discretion.

3:04:11

So I'm asking a different question.

3:04:13

I'm asking, there's been a motion to defer.

3:04:15

What happens at the next let's let's what happens at the next meeting when this item is brought up?

3:04:21

Can you keep going?

3:04:22

Uh I mean, so I mean, I I guess what I'm saying is let's say hypothetically, and I don't this is not the case with this commission.

3:04:29

We have a good resident focused commission.

3:04:31

But let's say hypothetically you had a commission and it's some municipality that follows the Robert Rules of Order, and you had four.

3:04:38

Yeah, and you had four individuals, four members of the body who just didn't want to hear uh from another member.

3:04:44

Can you just keep deferring their items and they never have their items heard?

3:04:47

I guess I'm trying to figure out what happens on October 29th.

3:04:50

I I don't think we can know what's gonna happen on October 29th until we're gonna but if they if a motion to defer was made, would it would the item just get held in abeyance again?

3:05:02

Procedurally, the the body has the right to defer items.

3:05:06

Mr.

3:05:06

Mayor.

3:05:07

Just a question.

3:05:08

Commissioner Fernandez.

3:05:09

Because I got I got that was a motion to defer.

3:05:14

I'm sorry of us in the back, but um I notice it was something going on here.

3:05:21

Um we have members of the public that came to speak, so I got we're not gonna discuss the item today.

3:05:28

I got we're not going to vote on the item today, but just out of respect, because I've seen some of the people here since the morning, maybe maybe the residents that were not be able to speak just out of respect to them, not saying us to have a discussion uh or a presentation or anything like that, but out of respect just for the people that have been sitting here in front of us.

3:05:51

I I agree, and I was uh thank you.

3:05:52

I was about to propose that.

3:05:53

I think that's the best where I'm at if people come here to speak from the public.

3:05:58

Right.

3:05:59

And I believe in order to move forward with this, someone would need to make a motion to reconsider the motion for the I'll make a motion for the concern to defer in order for them to hear.

3:06:10

To hear from the public.

3:06:12

Wait.

3:06:12

This is a city commission meeting.

3:06:13

You're telling me to bring up the item.

3:06:16

To open up the item.

3:06:18

And we're not opening up the item, we're hearing from the public.

3:06:23

So we can make a motion to hear from the public.

3:06:26

Yeah, let's make a motion to hear from the public.

3:06:29

Let's make the motion to reconsider.

3:06:31

You can have the same votes when you make the motion again.

3:06:33

I don't think you unless you change your mind.

3:06:34

So let's just make a motion to reconsider.

3:06:36

This way we'll hear we'll hear from the mayor.

3:06:38

We have to do it the right way, procedurally.

3:06:40

Mr.

3:06:40

Mayor, I just for everyone watching, for everyone here, look.

3:06:45

I I want to bring to light an issue that I've been very passionate about as far as ethics and developers in the city of Miami Beach.

3:06:56

I find it very frustrating that I take the time to put a presentation and to inform residents who really need transparent processes in Miami Beach.

3:07:07

All I'm asking to do is just speak, state my case.

3:07:10

It's a it's a seven-minute presentation.

3:07:12

I think behooves us to have more transparency in government, not less.

3:07:17

People are here.

3:07:18

They want to hear, they want to hear what I have to say.

3:07:21

I certainly am not going to stop what other people have to say.

3:07:25

I would never do that.

3:07:26

But I think through a point of personal privilege, I would like to have some context for what people are speaking about right now.

3:07:33

It's a seven-minute presentation, uh, Mr.

3:07:35

Mayor.

3:07:36

This is my only presentation today.

3:07:38

And I I would like that courtesy.

3:07:42

Commissioner Magazine.

3:07:44

Oh, Commissioner Dominguez.

3:07:45

Thank you.

3:07:46

Uh so as I mentioned, um, the sponsor did not take time to go to any neighborhood associations in order to get their feedback on something that's gonna affect them directly.

3:07:57

I'm not even sure.

3:07:58

I I think I know what he's but I don't even know what he's presenting.

3:08:02

So I I don't think a lot of us have the context of what that means.

3:08:07

Well, if you see what he's paying for on social media, that's the context of what he's doing.

3:08:11

It's uh in essence election.

3:08:16

And I um think it's highly inappropriate.

3:08:19

And if I could finish uh what my thoughts are in speaking with several neighborhood associations, and that includes Sofna and uh Flamingo Park and Sobey West.

3:08:29

Um they knew nothing about it.

3:08:31

They were very disturbed that they weren't consulted.

3:08:34

They understood that it passed that first reading, but it was not ready, is not ready to go to second reading.

3:08:39

I'll read you some of the comments.

3:08:40

I think this is an unacceptable ordinance that the sponsors putting pushing through.

3:08:46

It shouldn't be accepted at second reading, especially when so many people who volunteer on neighborhood associations are away for the season.

3:08:54

This should have been sent to the neighborhoods committee uh to be fleshed out where it could be vetted and discussed.

3:09:01

And then there were many parts about the ordinance where they're talking about the definition of a lobbyist and the issue of non-monetary.

3:09:08

Well, Sofna has their meetings in um the continuum.

3:09:13

That's a non-monetary use.

3:09:14

So now if somebody from SOFNA were to talk about something happening at the continuum, they'd be held responsible, or else the sponsor would uh file an ethics complaint against them.

3:09:25

Um Flamingo Park uses the PAL, same thing there.

3:09:29

MBA, when they have annual meetings, they do it at a hotel.

3:09:32

Is the same thing gonna happen to them there?

3:09:34

So there's many components of this item that is not ready to be voted on, and I think to be transparent, the neighborhood associations should have been um consulted.

3:09:47

Another element of this is that the sponsor made it a point to file personal ethics complaints on it against an entire organization.

3:10:00

And when it went to the Commission on Ethics, even though he brought residents from the neighborhood to support his claims, the Commission on Ethics found them no probable cause, nothing wrong was done.

3:10:12

And instead of saying, oh, okay, it's already been on trial and it's done.

3:10:18

The sponsor doubles down and then starts spreading lies and misinformation, which is where people get the mistrust of government.

3:10:26

That's why I did a motion to defer.

3:10:28

I did that because neighborhood associations have not been consulted.

3:10:33

I re- I did the due diligence between first and second reading.

3:10:37

And it also doesn't have explicit language that this is prospective.

3:10:42

It makes it seem like it is, but there are a lot of things that need to be buttoned up.

3:10:46

This is a very uh inappropriate item.

3:10:50

And uh, Madam Commissioner, is it deferral or uh the right option or a negative vote?

3:10:59

Right.

3:11:00

Um, well, it's like if it if it doesn't have merit, it doesn't have merit, and maybe we vote on the as it stands right now, it doesn't, but maybe after getting flushed out with the neighborhood associations, perhaps it could.

3:11:15

Um I think this is the perfect place and setting to discuss that.

3:11:19

We just discussed for 45 minutes crime and safety.

3:11:22

I'd like to have a discussion on ethics and developer money in our city uh as it pertains to zoning projects.

3:11:29

This is the perfect place and time.

3:11:31

The neighbor associations are listening.

3:11:33

People are here ready to listen to what's going on.

3:11:36

I don't see the problem in this.

3:11:38

We don't have to vote on it today, but I'd still like my 10 minutes to discuss the issue.

3:11:44

It certainly seems that some of my colleagues are are blindsided.

3:11:48

I think my presentation gives perfect clear context to it.

3:11:52

And I I again I don't see what the problem is with more transparency on what I have to bring.

3:11:59

So you know, I I consulted with neighborhood associations, I've consulted with condominium associations.

3:12:06

Condominium associations that are directly affected by uh our lax uh ethics laws.

3:12:13

So, you know, Mr.

3:12:14

Mayor, please, I'd like to have my uh seven minutes on a presentation to discuss this item or to just give a point of privilege to to have my presentations.

3:12:25

Rather than flesh things out of commission, um I would like to uh make a motion to refer to neighborhoods, and it can be fleshed out there honestly, or that's what ordinances should go from the very beginning instead of blindsiding colleagues with lack of information.

3:12:40

That's why things go to committee.

3:12:44

In the meantime, I'd like to hear from the public.

3:12:48

Thank you.

3:12:50

If anyone who wants to speak could stand in line if possible, that way I can visually see who you're fine.

3:12:56

Uh you have two minutes, ma'am, state your name and address, and I'll be going from the podium to online.

3:13:02

So please go ahead.

3:13:03

My name is Faye Horton.

3:13:07

I live at one century lane.

3:13:11

I am the president of the board of directors for the Vistas Condominium Association.

3:13:21

On June the 11th, 2025, the Miami Dave Commission on Ethics and Public Trust held a hearing to determine whether to open a formal investigation into a one point two million dollar agreement between the developer of the standard hotel and the bail owl residential association.

3:13:50

A self appointed group that claim to represent the interests of the bail owl residents and the Vistas Condominium Association.

3:14:08

I have never been a member of the bail out association for one reason.

3:14:17

For months, I tried to contact them to get information before any of this to join, and I could not get any information.

3:14:32

Only one that brought this to our attention, and I called a board meeting with our members was David Suarez, brought this agreement, and everyone that I have talked with at our association have personally told me that they were against that agreement.

3:14:55

They do not represent us.

3:14:57

They have not come to us and discuss.

3:15:00

The only person that have come to us and explained to us what was going on is Mr.

3:15:07

Suarez.

3:15:08

There is a loophole that needs to be a good idea.

3:15:11

And I do want to share this audience.

3:15:13

And the ordinance will close that loophole.

3:15:16

I want to clarify misinformation for something that Faye had said.

3:15:19

Miami Date Ethics Commission found the complaints that were filed by the sponsor with no merit and no probable cause, just to be clear.

3:15:27

And that's because of the loophole.

3:15:29

Your time was up.

3:15:30

Thank you.

3:15:30

Thank you.

3:15:31

I'm going to go virtually next.

3:15:32

So give me one minute.

3:15:34

Tara H.

3:15:35

is our next speaker.

3:15:39

Tara, please unmute yourself.

3:15:41

State your name and address, please.

3:15:44

Good morning.

3:15:45

This is Tara Harris.

3:15:46

I'm a longtime resident and constituent of our beautiful city of Miami Beach.

3:15:52

This issue is brought to my attention.

3:15:55

And my only key takeaway is that the actual homeowners on Bell Isle just should have an opportunity to vote on this issue with the development of the Standard Hotel.

3:16:08

And that's just my key takeaway.

3:16:11

If you could let David Suarez do his presentation, I, as a constituent, would greatly appreciate it.

3:16:19

Thank you.

3:16:20

Sir, state your name, address.

3:16:22

You have two minutes.

3:16:23

Go ahead.

3:16:24

My name is Bert Horton.

3:16:26

I live at the Vistas on Century Lane.

3:16:33

Is a key element in this discussion.

3:16:38

In response to an email I got from them.

3:16:46

I uh uh in response to an email that I got from them in June.

3:16:50

I entered into the little box where you can correspond with them.

3:16:58

I'd like to read to you what I wrote.

3:17:04

I am a resident of the Vistas and an aware of a 1.2 million dollar payout to a separate three-person LLC.

3:17:18

I would like to request one, how much money has actually been dispersed to the LLC to date.

3:17:29

Two.

3:17:47

Three.

3:18:19

Thank you.

3:18:20

My name Bert Horton.

3:18:23

Unit number 610 Vistas.

3:18:26

I received nothing.

3:18:30

No acknowledgement, no response.

3:18:32

Thank you.

3:18:34

And we're talking about transparency today.

3:18:38

Thank you so much.

3:18:39

Thank you.

3:18:40

Our next caller is named Richard.

3:18:42

Richard State Your Name, address, and you have two minutes.

3:18:49

Good morning, everyone.

3:18:50

My name is Richard, resident of Bell Isle.

3:18:54

It's really mind-boggling.

3:18:58

This continued obfuscation and confusion and misinformation on this issue, which a blind man can see.

3:19:06

This is corruption at its highest peak.

3:19:11

Thank God we have somebody in integrity, like Commissioner Suarez, who has no horse in this race, okay, other than doing his due diligence.

3:19:22

We've been blindsided with this time and time again.

3:19:26

It's time to put an end to this and put Miami Beach back on its pedestal as being clear.

3:19:32

Where are the sunshine laws?

3:19:36

This is just baffling time and time again.

3:19:39

Let's put this to rest.

3:19:41

If need be, we start from ground zero and leave it to the people who are most affected by all of this.

3:19:48

Thank you for your time and your consideration.

3:19:51

Thank you.

3:19:52

Go ahead, please.

3:19:53

Go ahead, it's your turn.

3:19:54

Hi, my name is Monica Tracy.

3:19:56

I've lived on Bell Isle for 39 years.

3:20:00

I was a member of the Belle Isle Residence Association board for 12 years, 10 of those as secretary.

3:20:05

We were a Mickey Mouse, genuine, sweet little group.

3:20:09

I'm sure you all, some of you remember Herb Frank, who has since departed activists for many years with organizations, and Scott Diffendurfer, who also were on that board.

3:20:20

I left it at the end of 2020 when the leadership changed.

3:20:24

At that time, I set up the little Bell Isle bird feeder, and I maintain and sponsor the bird feeder with my own funds now for almost five years.

3:20:32

The Belle Isle Residents Association board wants nothing to do and will provide no funding to this date.

3:20:38

I've not seen one dime of that massive payout to them being spent on Bell Isle in any way.

3:20:44

I have never had any communication from them since I left that board as a residence.

3:20:49

I'm sure they have my email address.

3:20:51

Okay.

3:20:53

Well, okay, so we were this little board.

3:20:55

We had a big annual meeting every week, every year in the spring with the police and fire and everybody would come.

3:21:02

The public was invited.

3:21:04

It was a Mickey Mouse little board.

3:21:05

I have a list here of accomplishments of the board.

3:21:08

If you want to pass that around, the things we did, a list of accomplishments that we we you know cared about, putting new benches in the park.

3:21:16

Okay.

3:21:17

I we were all blindsided by this massive payoff to the new board uh that went into a fund that there's no transparency, at least they've received at least almost 400,000 of this money.

3:21:28

I immediately called Commissioner Dominguez, and to this day I am mystified that she continues to support this this nefarious group of people of self-appointed people who have decided that they control Belle Isle.

3:21:43

And I I had I had thought, you know, and just I I'm so sorry, I was just shocked when my sitting commissioner who I thought represented me sat there and said, Oh, this is fine.

3:21:55

I think this is wonderful that they're getting this money.

3:21:58

Oh, isn't this great?

3:21:59

And I, you know, I'm not gonna argue with her.

3:22:01

I mean, she's you know an elected official.

3:22:04

Okay, thank you.

3:22:05

Um again, I I think this stinks to high heaven.

3:22:08

Thank you so much.

3:22:10

Our next virtual caller is Daniel.

3:22:12

Daniel, please unmute yourself.

3:22:13

Yep, two minutes.

3:22:16

Yes, hi, this is Daniel Serraldo, 730 10th Street.

3:22:20

I'm also a candidate for Miami Beach Commission Group one.

3:22:23

I want to talk about really the unfairness of this targeting of residents, citizens by the Commissioner Suarez.

3:22:30

I'm one of those residents that has been targeted, and I'm currently in the process of also looking at a potential uh defamation lawsuits to against the commissioner.

3:22:41

But what I want to say, because I know there's a lot of residents that are afraid to speak because they're afraid of being attacked by the commissioner, is that we need to find ways for the public to have a great voice, not less of a voice.

3:22:56

So when you have folks that spend 600,000 to get elected, and then tell other people they can't speak, that is really where democracy ends.

3:23:06

So let us stop these witch hunts.

3:23:08

Mayor Minor, you're an attorney.

3:23:10

I would ask that you also think about the damage to the reputation of citizens before allowing these sort of heinous nonstop at every meeting attacks by a commissioner whose main public record is he has a one-star rating for his skincare business, and you can look that up online.

3:23:28

Thank you.

3:23:31

Go ahead.

3:23:32

Do you have two minutes to your next one?

3:23:33

Um, Christina Mikovitz, Bell Isle Resident.

3:23:36

Look.

3:23:36

Um I don't even know what I want to say with all these notes, I'll be honest with you.

3:23:41

So thank you for everyone who let us speak.

3:23:43

We took time off work, kids, family, whatever.

3:23:46

Very emotional.

3:23:48

A lot of us have gone through a lot living on Belle Isle.

3:23:52

But here's the thing.

3:23:53

Everyone keeps talking about community not being in secret, not having notification, and you know, it's great to talk about it, guys.

3:24:01

So I'm just gonna say this.

3:24:03

January 24th, 2023, there was a survey.

3:24:07

The residents, Belle Isle, old board of Belle Isle said, we'll be vigilant.

3:24:12

We would adversely, this would adversely affect the quality of life for Bell Isle.

3:24:17

Fine.

3:24:18

Okay, then we have August 2024.

3:24:20

We have a year and a half.

3:24:21

Then we had a Zoom.

3:24:23

Okay, they informed us of the project.

3:24:26

All right.

3:24:27

The check was cashed three weeks before that.

3:24:29

So that's it.

3:24:30

That's all I want to say.

3:24:32

Um, in light of what we all talked about this morning, I think we all need to have a come to Jesus, no pun intended.

3:24:38

But this is not okay to kind of come where we came from this morning.

3:24:41

We're talking about a residents association.

3:24:44

Let's just revisit this and I'll respect the right to revisit this in October.

3:24:48

But I really need everyone just to really think about what we're talking about here, okay?

3:24:52

Look at the dates, look at the timelines, look at the email stamps, and the rest can be conjecture, but the dates are the dates.

3:25:00

Um a resident, I'm a member of Standard.

3:25:02

I love my community.

3:25:03

I've been trying to get on the Bureau for some time.

3:25:06

I've been emailing emailing them constantly.

3:25:09

And I met with Sean Patrick Bryant after this came out, and I've had nothing but harassment.

3:25:17

The overlap with board members on neighborhood associations and board members of condominiums and serving as any type of vote or decision maker.

3:25:27

I just think in any place in the in the country, there can't be an overlap, guys.

3:25:33

Because then you have conflict of interest.

3:25:35

And what happens is I couldn't get people to come here today, because you know what they said?

3:25:39

I want to renovate my condo, and I don't want to get backlash.

3:25:43

No one's gonna show up if there's overlap.

3:25:45

Thank you so much for letting us speak, everybody.

3:25:47

I appreciate that.

3:25:48

Thank you.

3:25:49

Our next virtual caller is John Courtney.

3:25:52

Please state your name, address you have two minutes.

3:25:56

All right, thank you guys.

3:25:57

I actually wasn't gonna speak today.

3:25:59

Um, but I I've and I'm I'm sorry that this has become like so personal uh on the commission.

3:26:05

But I I'm just so disappointed that we're stifling the conversation with all the resident interest.

3:26:11

Um I've seen the manipulative and unethical behavior of the lobbyist in question in my own neighborhood, and I've been shut out of conversations that directly affect me by those manipulative tactics of uh of a small board and a lobbyist.

3:26:28

And it's a real problem in the city, and we should be talking about it.

3:26:32

And um, you know, I appreciate I'm sorry that it's become personal.

3:26:36

Um, but I would hope that the the no votes to defer would just recognize the importance of the conversation and and let it happen.

3:26:43

Um, because it is it is a very serious problem in our city.

3:26:46

Thank you.

3:26:48

Hi, my name's Chris Floody.

3:26:50

I'm a resident of the Palmview neighborhood.

3:26:51

I'm also on the Palmview Neighborhood Association board, but that's not how I'm speaking to you today.

3:26:56

I'm gonna share though a little bit about my experience on that board.

3:27:00

In September of 2023, a lawyer came to us and representing somebody that wanted to bulldoze down a full block in our neighborhood and build rezone it and build higher density housing.

3:27:13

And I said, Well, I don't agree with that, but let's see what the residents think.

3:27:19

Let's open this up.

3:27:20

Yeah, we had a lot of actually the lawyer was working with the president of our board and they actively canceled the public discussions and worked together for months to make sure it wasn't shared with the rest of the neighborhood.

3:27:33

And I felt this was going on, but really confirming it was difficult until December 15th of 2023, when I was included on an email chain where the lawyer was advising and recommending to our president that they reduce the number of seats on the board to push me, the primary complainer, the primary person uh advocating for the public discussion, push me off of the board.

3:27:56

Or alternatively uh make the conversations actually smaller with an executive committee.

3:28:03

So excluding the rest of the board to get to what I believe was a recommendation from the neighborhood.

3:28:10

So it took many months of lots of arguing.

3:28:14

Ultimately, our president resigned, and I think Palmview neighborhood now has a standard that is admirable.

3:28:21

All of our meetings are 100% open.

3:28:23

All of our meeting recordings are posted on our website along with the agendas in the minutes.

3:28:29

So we've come out of this with a commitment to transparency with a commitment to engagement with our residents, and I hope that that can become more of a standard for the neighborhood associations.

3:28:39

Thank you.

3:28:40

Thank you.

3:28:41

Our next virtual caller has a screen name of Dee Rogers.

3:28:45

Please state your name, address.

3:28:52

Hi, um, this is Douglas Rogers.

3:28:55

I live at Five Island on Bell Island.

3:28:58

And actually, I'm a forensic accountant and would be happy to join the Board of Bureau and help sort this all out.

3:29:07

I feel like there's been a lot of inuito innuendo by Congress or our Councilman Suarez thrown at folks, residents of Bell Island, and I feel it's unfounded.

3:29:18

Again, I've been a forensic accountant for more than 30 years, and I know some of the folks that are on the board, and they are quite ethical and wonderful people and members of our community who are not set out to rip off and personally benefit from this.

3:29:36

They are gonna be objective and transparent about how they spend the money.

3:29:42

And I feel like Councilman Suarez is just out there tar and feathering them in public, and it's a shameful act.

3:29:50

So again, I would be happy to do a forensic accounting investigation.

3:29:56

Of or oversee the money as a member of the board.

3:30:01

But I think you need to stop your innuendos and and and publicly belittling members of our community councilman Suarez.

3:30:11

It's a shameful act.

3:30:13

Thank you.

3:30:14

Thank you.

3:30:15

The next virtual caller is Neil Vasquez.

3:30:18

Please unmute yourself.

3:30:19

You have two minutes.

3:30:21

Hello, I'm Neil Vasquez.

3:30:23

I'm a resident of Five Island Avenue.

3:30:25

I too was not going to speak today, but I just want to say that I was appalled by what I just witnessed on the commission.

3:30:31

Commissioner Suarez and I don't agree on much, but we agree on free and open debate and putting residents first.

3:30:36

And what I just witnessed with Commissioner Dominguez trying to stifle and silence discussion is absurd and appalling.

3:30:45

For those of you who do not know the details and facts, I encourage you to educate yourselves.

3:30:49

Commissioner Dominguez is obviously a shill for the real estate interest.

3:30:53

She's totally in the pocket of real estate developers.

3:30:56

She has sold out our residents on this issue.

3:30:59

And I encourage everyone to educate themselves, find out more.

3:31:03

And if the item is deferred until October, come back and speak your mind.

3:31:07

Thank you.

3:31:08

Thank you.

3:31:08

And I will remind everybody speaking.

3:31:12

Can I call it address the commissioner by name?

3:31:15

It's for Robert's rules.

3:31:17

Is that just during Sutnik Correct or is that throughout the process?

3:31:20

This is really more a matter of maintaining the quorum amongst the body.

3:31:25

You all should not refer to each other by name, uh, but members of the public can reference names just as long as they maintain the quorum.

3:31:33

Our next virtual caller is Mr.

3:31:35

Wayne Roberts.

3:31:39

Thank you, sir.

3:31:40

Um I know both parties are on the dais, and um they both come from good places.

3:31:47

Um the legislation should be about a an effort to ensure that associations have um have uh uh uh made statements to the city that they have no interest in the in the property or no uh payment to the association for their support.

3:32:10

Uh that would be a very going forward, that would be a very strong um uh legislation to avoid any conflict of interest.

3:32:20

Um you know, Laura is is more pro-development uh for than David, um, and there's nothing wrong with that.

3:32:29

Um I don't she's never made a dollar off her campaign.

3:32:34

She's she's invested hundreds of thousands of her own money to become a commissioner uh after her partner died.

3:32:41

Yes, uh passed away.

3:32:43

We could have um and and you know I I respect her and I respect David.

3:32:49

But I think what ultimately, instead of this legislation, there should be some sort of committee set up to like make rules that associations can have any um payment without notifying the city uh that that the board members cannot be um a party to the to the profits or or to the uh to the discussion of the development.

3:33:14

Um that sort of discussion should make sense and to shut down associations or paint them as negative is not really what I think David wants to do, and I think I don't think the legislation currently really balances that out as well as I would hope.

3:33:31

Thank you.

3:33:32

Our next virtual caller has a screen name of iPhone.

3:33:36

Please state your name.

3:33:39

Unmute yourself, you have two minutes.

3:33:40

Name and address, please.

3:33:43

Um good morning.

3:33:44

My name is Olivia Seovak, uh Belle Isle residents.

3:33:49

Um, and I'm here on the call regarding uh the board of Bayran not being transparent as we are talking whole morning about being transparent.

3:34:03

I am asking for the commissioner David Suarez to give his presentation so we all know what is going on.

3:34:14

Thank you.

3:34:15

Thank you so much.

3:34:15

Our last caller is Christobal.

3:34:18

Go ahead, please, take your name, address, and you have the two minutes.

3:34:24

Hello.

3:34:25

My name is Chris.

3:34:27

I am a resident of Bell Isle, and I am so happy that we've heard from forensic accountants and people who are very well versed in law and hearing all these details, but I'm here to speak on behalf of the C word, which is community, and the standard is and and community is a word that's been overused, and the standard is an institution that really has a community for us locals here.

3:34:56

And what will we what will happen when it closes and it comes back under new management?

3:35:03

I've had the pleasure of meeting some of the investors that are a part of the net of of the of the investment group.

3:35:10

And there's no way that it's going to be the same hub for arts and culture and creativity like it is right now.

3:35:16

So I just plead that our commissioners, when they think of community and what projects they're supporting, think of what the effects are for us residents and how we're going about our day-to-day and our community centers.

3:35:34

That's all.

3:35:34

Thank you.

3:35:35

Thank you.

3:35:35

That concludes the public comment period.

3:35:38

Thank you all for uh for calling in and speaking.

3:35:42

I I just want to give a brief comment.

3:35:44

Uh I've worked closely with our neighborhood associations.

3:35:48

There are many throughout our city.

3:35:49

I know all my colleagues do as well.

3:35:51

They hold meetings, residents come, they pass motions to bring to our attention, and we are absolutely a better city because of the advocacy of our residents and our neighborhood associations.

3:36:03

So I've had very good experiences.

3:36:06

I think it was important to hear from our residents and to hear the concerns.

3:36:12

I'll tell you my determination.

3:36:14

I am going to allow the presentation because I feel that I'll be stifling something.

3:36:19

And I also believe that our commission and our body needs to make a determination.

3:36:23

The vote today is to defer.

3:36:25

Maybe we change our mind after, maybe we don't.

3:36:27

I'm not trying to advocate one way or the other.

3:36:29

I voted, uh I voted the way I did.

3:36:32

But I I think we're ultimately gonna have to make a decision whether we hear this item.

3:36:35

But I am asking, Commissioner, that we are not that we are not going to be attacking anyone on the dais here or anyone else.

3:36:42

It it's I assume it'll be factual and people will make the determinations as they be without making any uh attacks against anyone.

3:36:50

Thank you, Mr.

3:36:51

Mayor.

3:36:51

I really appreciate the opportunity.

3:36:54

How is that possible?

3:36:55

Rick.

3:36:57

Our city attorney mentioned that I have the discretion of allowing client presentation.

3:37:02

You also had made many points also to Commissioner Dominguez, um, which in theory could have I didn't have if we deferred the item, we didn't have to, but we've been discussing it, and I think uh I think also from what I'm hearing and also from people reaching out to me, I think people want to most people don't know what's going on.

3:37:21

I think uh for generally, or at least the specifics of what's going on.

3:37:25

We're and uh I I think I'm gonna allow it.

3:37:28

Thank you, Mr.

3:37:29

I'm going to allow it.

3:37:30

Uh PJ, if you could pull up the uh presentation.

3:37:33

Mr.

3:37:33

Mayor, just just a quick question.

3:37:35

Commissioner Fernandez, if we're gonna hear the we heard from the public and we're gonna hear the presentation today, then to have then we're gonna if we move forward with a deferral, then we've dedicated a lot of time.

3:37:49

People came from their jobs, um their families to come and be here then.

3:37:53

Then we just might as well hear the the item today, because if not, October we're gonna have to go through a second second reading.

3:38:01

So it'll be the third time that the item gets heard, it'll be the third time that the public has to come and speak on the item, it'll be a third time that Commissioner Sarez has to do his his presentation.

3:38:10

Uh so in that case, if if we're gonna move forward with a presentation today, we might as well entertain then a reconsideration of the deferral.

3:38:19

I'll second it.

3:38:20

Yeah, I didn't vote, I I voted to move forward.

3:38:23

So my Mr.

3:38:24

Mayor, I have a question.

3:38:26

Um there was an item C7Y, and that was about Bell Isle and the standard.

3:38:31

When the standard saw that on the agenda, they withdrew their application, making C7Y moot.

3:38:39

So what the sponsor has done is because he wanted to have a presentation about the standard, he's conflating the two.

3:38:46

This is about R5K.

3:38:48

I just saw PJ's first page on the slide, and it was about the standard.

3:38:52

That's not the item that we're listening to because that's moot.

3:38:56

That one is done.

3:38:56

So if that's a presentation, that's not what we should be listening to.

3:39:00

And I stand firm on that.

3:39:02

I'll let the presentation speak for itself, Mr.

3:39:04

Middle.

3:39:04

Can I say one?

3:39:05

I will just let me just turn to our city attorney for a moment to comment on that.

3:39:10

Well, I have not seen the presentation, so I I can't say as to whether it relates to the lobbying item or to the case.

3:39:16

If it's about R5P the lobbying item, that's one thing, but it's it's about the item that was uh on consent that is moot because the standard withdrew their application, that's unacceptable.

3:39:28

This is about R5K.

3:39:30

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

3:39:33

I mean as long as it's not just if it's about the issue, and we can reopen the issue and not a specific person, then I think that's fine.

3:39:44

But I think that the attacks are divisive, and I don't think they move us forward in a positive way.

3:39:50

So as long as this presentation is about the issue and it's about transparency in neighborhood associations, then I'm fine with that.

3:40:00

And I think that hearing it today could probably make a better ordinance out of it, because I think there could be a few changes to the current ordinance.

3:40:05

The only thing that I would ask the commissioner is um these uh attacks are not necessary here publicly.

3:40:16

I think that they uh rune us as a body, and I would ask for you to please just focus on the issue.

3:40:24

That's the only thing I'm asking.

3:40:25

It's exactly what it's doing.

3:40:27

So I'll move over consideration of the deferral.

3:40:29

I'll second motion by Commissioner uh Fernandez, second by Commissioner Suarez to reconsider the deferral.

3:40:40

All in favor, please say aye.

3:40:42

Aye.

3:40:42

Anyone opposed?

3:40:45

So the item is back on 70.

3:40:51

Thank you.

3:40:51

Thank you, Mr.

3:40:52

Mayor.

3:40:52

I really appreciate it.

3:40:53

Um PJ, if you could please put it.

3:40:56

Thank you.

3:40:56

So I want to give everyone a little bit of context of what just happened.

3:41:00

A lot of people are probably confused on what just you just watched.

3:41:06

Um I'm gonna be laying forward a presentation on multiple loopholes that uh affected our ethics and developers on how they control Miami Beach and how they plan on getting votes from us.

3:41:22

So fixing the system, lessons learned from the standard, and this is a path to stronger ethics.

3:41:28

Again, this is to protect neighborhoods and not developer interests or their profits.

3:41:33

Next slide, please.

3:41:36

Okay.

3:41:36

So uh the standard hotel was recently purchased by a new set of owners, um, and they plan to significantly up zone the property.

3:41:46

They um they wanted to add probably a more than I think 75% intensity to the footprint of the site currently.

3:41:58

And then they wanted to add six ultra-luxury high-end condos for um for a group of people.

3:42:06

Um the developer and the Bell Isle Resident Association Bureau entered into a contractual legal contract for 1.2 million dollars for their quote unquote neighborhood support without transparent resident input, as you've just heard.

3:42:28

Um this 1.2 million dollar agreement was officially announced one month after the binding agreement between the developer, and I'll be showing the timeline of events.

3:42:40

Um, the ethics commission did flag undisclosed communications by BIR board members to uh members of the city commission, such as myself.

3:42:53

Um the Bell Isle residents are overwhelmingly opposed to this uh process and upzoning development.

3:43:03

So I think timelines are important.

3:43:05

Uh next slide, please, BJ.

3:43:07

Uh timelines are important, obviously, because it gives a little context on to what has happened.

3:43:13

Um July 34, 2024, the standard and the neighborhood association Bureau sign an agreement, a 1.2 million dollar agreement, uh, with the first payout of $360,000 on August 14th.

3:43:31

On August 27th, almost two weeks later, the standard lobbyist holds a webinar to inform Bell Isle of the Standards development plans.

3:43:41

That's again after the agreement has already been signed.

3:43:44

On September 30th, the standards lobbyist files paperwork with the city disclosing the 1.2 million dollar payout to to the neighborhood association bureau.

3:43:56

Now, October 1st and October 14th, the design review board meeting was held on October 1st, and then on we had a land use meeting where I brought significant issues to this ethics on October 14th, questioning this 1.2 million dollar deal.

3:44:13

Um two weeks after I raise these concerns, BIRA then sends out an official email about the 1.2 million dollar payout to its organization.

3:44:26

On October 30th, the agreement was rewritten to make the 1.2 million dollar payment time-based instead of contingent on project approval.

3:44:38

Next slide.

3:44:40

So what do I mean by contingent?

3:44:43

This agreement that Bell Isle and the developer for the standard entered into agreement was for a again a 1.2 million dollar payout, and it was contingent upon how we vote on the city.

3:45:00

So 30% within 15 days of execution from this agreement, and then 30 days of non-final appealable approval.

3:45:07

So that means once we've agreed to approve this project, that means that they're going to get paid another 30% of the 1.2 million dollars.

3:45:18

40% after the issuance of a building permit.

3:45:23

So what I'd like I'd like to show the next slide, please.

3:45:27

This is what they were obligated to support.

3:45:30

Excuse me if if members of the commission can keep it done.

3:45:34

Thank you.

3:45:37

The next this is, and this is important.

3:45:40

And this really goes to the heart of the agreement and why I think it's so wrong.

3:45:46

This organization with the developer signed a binding agreement for their support.

3:45:53

They were contractually obligated to support this project.

3:46:02

They were supposed to come to every zoning hearing and voice their support.

3:46:07

And another issue that of course was they were never allowed to appeal or encourage people to appeal this project.

3:46:14

They were contractually obligated to do so.

3:46:18

Next slide.

3:46:19

Okay.

3:46:20

So everyone's asking.

3:46:22

What if we could like about the ordinance?

3:46:24

I don't even uh reading.

3:46:27

Yeah.

3:46:27

What's this money for?

3:46:29

This money in the contract says for physical quality of life, security, lifestyle, and cultural improvements to Bell Isle as determined for the non by the nonprofit establishment.

3:46:43

And then the Bell Isle Resident Association sent out an email saying what this 1.2 million dollars could be used for.

3:46:51

Some of it would include yoga, fitness soccer camps, uh children music festivals.

3:46:58

Okay.

3:46:59

I could certainly imagine that Bell Isle needs more than yoga events and children events.

3:47:05

I think the one thing questions comes to mind is Bell Isle needs seawalls, new seawalls for for their capital improvements.

3:47:14

So I want to lay out what exactly this money, this 1.2 million dollar payout is going to be used for.

3:47:20

Next slide.

3:47:22

Now it's also very strange, and and I don't know for the life of me that the that the person who witnessed this contract was our previous.

3:47:39

But I think it's pointing pointing out residents of a neighborhood association.

3:47:44

This is a ex-city attorney.

3:47:46

This is this is this is our previous city attorney signing a contract that is contingent upon government approval.

3:47:54

I think that's I think that's very important.

3:47:57

I I think this is very I look.

3:47:59

I want to make sure that everyone in the room and the public understands why people are so distraught over development, lobbyists, and politics in our city, and things like this is why the is why people question government.

3:48:16

And I'm here to raise the transparency and raise accountability for what we do in Miami Beach.

3:48:22

To that end, next slide, please.

3:48:24

Mr.

3:48:24

Commissioner, so I look if I could just look if I can just if I could just finish.

3:48:29

Would you not entertain um having a very public forum to let uh everybody speak and hash out the proposed ordinance at the neighborhoods committee where residents could come and um HOAs and associations who did not know about this could come and share their thoughts?

3:48:48

I think we are to a person on this commission united in the desire to have full transparency and unimpeachable ethics.

3:48:55

I don't think there's any issue with that, but I do think there's a lot of concern.

3:48:59

I know I've heard it from residents about um the um their ability to come and speak their minds without risking um repercussions from the sure.

3:49:13

I I would like to finish my presentation, and we can certainly sort of let me just chime in.

3:49:17

My my and when I'm hearing from my colleagues, but I believe as well.

3:49:20

I'll give you a little latitude here, but the the item was as Commissioner Dominguez pointed out, the you kind of you kind of won in the sense you you won the first battle in the sense that they removed the item.

3:49:33

But this so you're you're you're bringing it up to uh have full-scale citywide legislation, which I which I appreciate, and we'll vote on it, but I think you need to kind of let's let's let's bring it home and get to the legislation at issue.

3:49:45

Sure.

3:49:46

Again, the community, as you all were here, was shut out.

3:49:51

The the on July 31st, the agreement was signed.

3:50:00

Residents were only informed about this, residents of Bell Al were only informed about this uh through a developer-sponsored webinar with with the 1.2 million dollars, no strings attached.

3:50:05

And so I go to the next slide where there's a video of this webinar where after the contract was signed, this is what uh we saw in the webinar.

3:50:16

Million dollar.

3:50:18

Good afternoon.

3:50:19

I signed your presentation.

3:50:20

There's a 1.2 million dollar um given to the beer attribution.

3:50:26

What is that for?

3:50:30

Well, technically it's Nick, do you know the name of the nonprofit that was created by the Bureau Board?

3:50:37

Is that um I'm not recalling the name exactly?

3:50:43

It's something along the Bell Isle Improvement Trust Inc., I believe.

3:50:47

Um is there information anywhere where we can read what the use of that fund is who's managing it?

3:50:55

So yeah, go ahead, right?

3:50:57

So we don't have any there are no strings attached by us.

3:51:01

Um it would be up to your buyer board of directors.

3:51:05

So I would just say at the next monthly meeting, just um you know, raise this uh as a question.

3:51:12

Is this a proposed plan a done deal, or are you waiting for resident approval on a referendum on a ballot?

3:51:22

Our approval process is not dependent upon a popular vote by the residents of Bell Isle.

3:51:31

If you go to the next slide, please, PJ.

3:51:34

And so before you before you push play, I held a town hall uh shortly after I found out about this, where I believe there was 400 participants.

3:51:44

Um and I actually went condo to condo to condo in Bell Isle asking to speak to the condominium associations and asked if they've ever heard of this uh settlement agreement with the Bell Isle Resident Association and the developer.

3:52:00

And I none of them, uh almost none of them have heard anything about this.

3:52:04

And so at the town hall, this is a summary of what we were heard.

3:52:08

You play it now, please.

3:52:17

The Bell Low Residents Association has never represented me or most of my uh neighbors on Ferry Lane.

3:52:26

Uh I've never received uh any communication from them.

3:52:30

I've never been invited to vote for the people who are you know representatives on that board.

3:52:37

I I've never been in the least involved nor invited to be involved in the 15 years that I've lived on Ferry Lane.

3:52:47

So to say that they represent the whole community is is uh a stretch in my experience that what I have a problem with is how this whole thing went down.

3:52:58

I honestly have never seen these plans apparently a negotiation happened.

3:53:06

There was a settlement uh with a value of a million point two seven.

3:53:11

I found out uh I found out all this last week.

3:53:16

I'd love to hear from the audience.

3:53:20

Uh there's almost 300 people on on Zoom.

3:53:24

There's about a hundred people here.

3:53:26

And I would like to know why the lawyer isn't here because I wonder if there is a crime here by the association.

3:53:32

I don't think there's anybody that lives on Bell Isle that wants to see this happen.

3:53:39

It is time that the community stands up to the developers, that the commissioners and the government come in and say, listen, you just can't come in and ram what you want here.

3:53:47

I'm the present president, but prior to that I was on the board.

3:53:51

I had no idea of this situation.

3:53:55

I resent someone feeling that they could represent my interests without my permission and without even coming to me and asking me what my needs are.

3:54:08

And I was on the Bell Out Residents Association during these publication.

3:54:12

But I resigned 14 minutes before they voted because I couldn't vote for an agreement that they wouldn't get your food.

3:54:18

This project is a clear example of how broken processes have eroded the trust and robbed us of being able to make a transformative project.

3:54:29

This project wasn't about engaging residents or addressing real needs, as we've mentioned.

3:54:34

It was about backroom deals and a neighborhood association that used this project to enhance its own power.

3:54:41

The fact that we were left out of the whole thing, and now I find out that not only were we left out of it, the people who are going to be impacted by far more directly with any project that happens at this standard.

3:54:55

But all you guys were left out of it too.

3:54:57

It's insane.

3:55:00

Something is very rotten here on what's being proposed for the redevelopment of the hotel.

3:55:03

Many of us are opposed to that.

3:55:06

Knowing that the community with this unprecedented turnout had not had engagement for a year and a half before a decision was made.

3:55:16

We're finding out tonight that not only was there no transparency, but there was a conscious effort to hide the entire deal.

3:55:23

That's a big problem.

3:55:24

They made a deal without already asking their members what to do with the money.

3:55:29

So they're getting money without knowing where it's going.

3:55:32

All of that's bad.

3:55:34

But the worst part is saying they represent all of us.

3:55:38

That's absolutely not true.

3:55:40

They've never approached me.

3:55:42

It's weird to have the lack of a transparency.

3:55:50

Let me just put that in the right.

3:55:52

We as a body have made a rule about the five-minute presentations.

3:55:54

You've used up that time, and we haven't even gotten to the you've got to get to the legislation in front of us.

3:56:00

Sure.

3:56:00

I think you've made I think you've made the point.

3:56:02

Nick, through the mayor, if you can uh come to the podium.

3:56:06

So when I filed, because as it stands, the ethics commission can no longer unilaterally open an investigation.

3:56:15

The ethics commission needs a complaint from a person to open an investigation.

3:56:22

That was a state law that changed this year.

3:56:24

I'm the one who made the complaint because I found this ethically challenged and wrong.

3:56:32

And Nick, if you can please go through the contingency fee before this second reading, and how it's going to strengthen and how it relates to what we witnessed with uh Bureau and uh the developer.

3:56:52

Sure.

3:56:52

So the code uh that's currently in place prohibits an agreement to pay uh or the payment or an agreement to receive or the receipt of a contingency fee in connection with certain appearances before the city.

3:57:07

So what does that mean?

3:57:08

That means uh the payment of a fee by a third party uh that is contingent on the outcome of a decision by the city commission or or or a city board uh or the or the administration.

3:57:23

Um what this ordinance does with regard to the contingency fee section.

3:57:27

So Nick, I think at the last time we we we discussed this, I believe it was land use.

3:57:34

And that first agreement that they had signed with the developer and the neighborhood association, where the payments were contingent upon our approval.

3:57:44

I understand it got sent to the ethics commission and they made their findings.

3:57:48

But in your opinion, did they did the contingency fee rule apply?

3:57:56

So our the contingency fee restrictions that are in our code now were in effect at the time that this agreement was executed.

3:58:05

Um the the question of whether a violation of the code has occurred or not is a question for the ethics commission to determine based on the uh you know, based on now it has to be a a complaint.

3:58:20

Um they can't initiate investigations on their own.

3:58:23

But the ethics commission would look at the individual facts, uh the parties involved, and determine whether the subject of the complaint um has violated the contingency fee prohibition.

3:58:35

Okay.

3:58:35

And the challenge that I saw with the ethics commission was that they don't charge entities, correct?

3:58:44

That's a county ethics issue.

3:58:46

Our city code says if you are a person or an entity agreeing to give or not give, uh agreeing to give us or to give any sort of compensation based on how we vote.

3:59:01

The ethics commission was unable to to do that because of the way our code was written.

3:59:07

But the intent was either an entity or a person, individual should not uh have a compensation based on how we vote.

3:59:17

And if you can explain why we're amending this or ordinance for ethics between now, but between what it was before this agreement and after the agreement, that'd be great.

3:59:28

So the the ethics commission's position is that they cannot take enforcement action against entities, that they can only take enforcement action against individuals.

3:59:37

So the mere fact that this organization was an entity and they can't charge or uh investigate entities is left the city commission uh without any recourse.

3:59:53

So if you can explain that one more time.

4:00:00

So one of the things that one of the changes that this ordinance makes to the contingency fee prohibition is that it includes uh individual individual natural persons when they're acting on behalf of an entity.

4:00:10

Um you know, it it's an individual who's acting um in the capacity of let's say the principal of a business or an officer of an organization could be subject to uh enforcement by the county ethics commission under this change.

4:00:29

And again, for those of you who are watching, I want in in plain terms is you don't want to see a developer or a lobbyist tell tell his client, well, you know, all I need to do is get four or five votes and I'll make a million dollars.

4:00:48

I don't think that's right.

4:00:50

I think that's very scary to think, and it sets certainly a bad precedent for contingency fees, and that's why we have these laws.

4:00:59

Now we're strengthening these laws so that the ethics commission at the county can charge and and and actually uh enforce what we want.

4:01:11

Um and that's why I had the ethics commission and our city attorney get together and strengthen uh this particular ordinance so that this sort of quote shenanigans behind closed doors doesn't happen again.

4:01:27

I shouldn't be getting lobbied uh or communicated by people who are set to make uh or entities that are set to make a a payout, the I vote.

4:01:39

And we need to make sure moving forward that if that is gonna happen, I just want to know about it.

4:01:45

I just want to know.

4:01:46

And I think everyone on this commission should know about it.

4:01:49

So can you also explain what else this ordinance does to enhance our ethics uh code?

4:01:58

Yeah, so it also makes amendments to uh some of the definitions to in particular the the definition of um of neighborhood association to make clear that it also includes uh residential condo or co-op associations, which is something that the county code uh that the county code provides.

4:02:16

So this would make us consistent with that.

4:02:18

It amends the definition of city employees who um who you are required to register as a lobbyist before you meet with to make that consistent with the county code.

4:02:30

Um it amends the the uh the disclosure requirements for representatives of neighborhood associations under our code, which is stricter than the county code.

4:02:43

Under our code, a representative of a neighborhood association is not a lobbyist um, but they are required to submit a separate form to the city clerk's office.

4:02:54

Um this ordinance would make clear that that separate form is is called a written disclosure, um, that it needs to be filed in writing with the city clerk's office, the city clerk will provide a form for it.

4:03:05

Um, and that a neighborhood association only becomes a uh a lobbyist and subject to the lobbyist registration requirement if the association itself is going to receive consideration um based on the association's support of a measure or uh agreement to withhold objection to a measure.

4:03:28

So if a neighborhood association agrees with a third party um, you know, in exchange for monetary or non-monetary consideration that the association will appear before the city and affirmatively support a project or or sit out and not oppose it, then that association will now be treated as a as a lobbyist.

4:03:47

And I want everyone to understand that you know, look, this was egregious, obviously.

4:03:55

Paying for support and being contractually obligated to support a project when that neighborhood association never went to the residents to begin with and never held public forms to um to really explain the issue, I think is is wrong, obviously.

4:04:17

Um Nick, last question.

4:04:20

What did the ethics commission did take action?

4:04:23

Correct?

4:04:24

And if you can explain what they took and what and uh in their findings.

4:04:28

With regard to the the Bell Isle legislate the Bell Isle complaints, the um the ethics commission issued letters of instruction to uh to to three respondents um directing them to register with the city clerk's office as neighborhood associations prior to to future appearances.

4:04:50

Okay, and and I'll I'll I'll end with this.

4:05:00

You know, if this is allowed to continue, you know, every developer and high-powered lobbyist in this city will know they can simply buy their support from a neighborhood association.

4:05:06

And I'm sure no one on the commission wants that.

4:05:10

No one in our city wants that.

4:05:12

Um I think whenever it comes to compensation, whether it be money or cryptocurrency or free tickets, I think all of this needs to be open in the sunshine.

4:05:27

Um, one thing about being elected commissioners uh being elected is that we're subject to the sunshine laws.

4:05:34

Everything has to be out in the transparent process.

4:05:36

However, behind these closed doors between developers and private organizations, they're not bound by the same sort of um transparency that we are.

4:05:45

And then that's why I'm bringing this to light, because I think that if if there's going to be an obligate uh contractual obligation that we just need to know about it.

4:05:56

Simple, very straightforward, and I think it's the right thing to do.

4:06:01

And I I certainly don't see why this would be uh a cause for concern.

4:06:05

It just means more transparency in the process.

4:06:09

Um, I can't think of every situation of why this uh is a good thing, but I can certainly tell you that the more disclosures we have, the more transparency that we have in our process about how we make decisions and who's supporting what is a good thing.

4:06:27

So look, um, I I'd like to certainly move this item.

4:06:30

These these concerns were never raised at first reading, they're raised now for some reason.

4:06:36

And you know, I'd like to make a motion to to pass this, as is on on second reading.

4:06:42

Commissioner Dominguez.

4:06:43

Thank you.

4:06:44

Um, words matter and defaming and talking about it about neighborhood associations and volunteers in our community is shameful because then that prevents neighborhood associations from speaking up, residents from getting involved, and it's just not right.

4:07:00

I want to clear the record because um some of the stuff that was discussed went in circles, and one of the things I will read is that the Commission on Ethics found that there was no probable cause to conclude that there has been a violation of 2-111S of the Miami Dade County Ethics Code, or Section 2482 of the City of Miami Beach Code, and Section 2485.3 of the City of Miami Beach Code.

4:07:27

The respondents were deemed exempt from lobbyist registration as unpaid representatives of neighborhood associations, and there was no evidence that they received or agreed to receive any personal compensation or benefit as a contingency.

4:07:44

So that's that's something that's real important because it's not right to lie and defame people, especially when they're not here to defend themselves.

4:07:52

When this item came up the first time for first reading, I brought up that this wasn't fully baked and that I was gonna do my dil due diligence in between.

4:08:00

I did, and I contacted two attorneys who said this is not ready, there's a lot of loopholes and loose ends here.

4:08:07

I spoke with neighborhood associations like Sofna and So be West, Collins Park, and Flamingo Park and Bera.

4:08:15

They knew nothing about this.

4:08:16

They were very concerned about the non-monetary um issues and a whole slew, like I have like a page and a half here.

4:08:25

Um the policy should incentivize neighborhood associations to engage with the city.

4:08:31

And the way it's drafted, it creates additional obstacles to engage.

4:08:35

So it's not really transparent, it's shutting people out, and that's wrong.

4:08:39

So I would like to move this item, refer it to neighborhoods so that all the neighborhood associations can be in invited and learn more about it because the ones that I called didn't know anything about it.

4:08:52

Commissioner Fernandez and Commissioner Magazine.

4:08:55

Thank you, Mr.

4:08:55

Mayor.

4:08:56

And I think we always want to move in a path towards more ethics, more transparency.

4:09:05

We also want to move in a path for more community engagement.

4:09:08

And I want to make sure that when we pass policies, that we pass policies that do not discourage the civic participation of our residents and our neighborhood associations.

4:09:19

I get concerned, I don't like seeing the residents' names being placed the way that they have been.

4:09:25

These are our residents, they've placed their trust in us, and we might not agree with a lot of things how they happen, but there are residents and they deserve our respect as much as we want them to respect us.

4:09:40

I would I would say I get concerned about putting the onerous and well-intended residents that get involved, but that don't know the details of the law or the ordinance.

4:09:54

For example, in my briefing, I started asking details about the ordinance.

4:10:01

The very people who should know the ints and outs about the ordinance had to go back and look at the ordinance to get those answers.

4:10:11

They got me the answers that I needed, but I have to go back to the ordinance.

4:10:15

These are people that have worked on this legislation that we're considering today.

4:10:20

And I made the comment imagine that's today when we're actively working on this legislation.

4:10:25

Who's going to remember the details of this legislation six months from now?

4:10:31

And most importantly, forget about us, the people who we serve.

4:10:35

Will the people who we serve, the residents, the residents whose civic engagement we want to foster, will they even know that this exists?

4:10:45

And I used an example.

4:10:47

Let's say Mary Smith.

4:10:49

Mary Smith moves into a condo.

4:10:53

And next to Mary Smith's condo, there's a condo that comes in that is going to do construction.

4:11:01

And now that construction offers to, you know, re-landscape the front of Mary Smith's building.

4:11:10

She'll have to register as a lobbyist if she comes and speaks about this, but she might not even know that she has that requirement.

4:11:19

She might even she might not even know that she is breaking the law when she thinks that she's just coming in to be an active resident to be a good neighbor.

4:11:30

And that's where I think perhaps keeping the intent of the transparency, the owners should perhaps be placed on the developer.

4:11:39

Developers hire lobbyists who know the laws.

4:11:44

Developers hire highly sophisticated attorneys and pay them a pretty penny, a pretty penny to know the ins and the outs.

4:11:53

And they have resources that the residents who are being involved and getting involved don't know.

4:11:59

And the last thing that I would want to see is a well-meaning resident who is simply who is simply advocating for the community to end up with an ethics complaint because they spoke up for their neighborhood.

4:12:12

So I personally think that the onerous should fall on the developer.

4:12:17

That if the developer gave whether it be a free meal or a contribution to a condo association or to a neighborhood association, the reporting party should be the developer and not and not the resident who later might end up in the middle of a process and a political controversy when they simply just wanted to get involved and speak up for their neighborhood.

4:12:42

If you could entertain that type of amendment, because that way we move forward with the intent, but we protect the very residents whose civic participation we want to continue fostering.

4:12:54

And and Commissioner Fernandes said, thank you for bringing that up.

4:12:57

And I want to clear the record through through Nick, I mean through the mayor, that if, for example, if Mary Smith wanted to come and advocate for whatever item that is being presented, she's free to do that.

4:13:10

She doesn't have to disclose anything.

4:13:12

But what this does is if you are getting compensated for that.

4:13:15

If they are going to get a compensation for their support, and that's what I'm trying to prevent.

4:13:22

But but that's my point.

4:13:24

If if let's say she says, I support your project, I'll use a different example.

4:13:30

I support your project, but your project is going to cost so much dust next to my property, to the neighboring property.

4:13:38

I want you to make sure that all of the residents in my building get weekly free car washes.

4:13:46

Because you're going to be causing all of this dust.

4:13:49

And so if you don't do that, I'm not going to support your your your project because why should we be subjected to your dust?

4:13:57

She's advocating her quality of life.

4:14:00

She's advocating for the residents of her building.

4:14:02

Why should she have to register as a lobbyist if she comes and speaks here about a project?

4:14:09

She shouldn't have to.

4:14:11

That should be the owners, should be on the developer.

4:14:14

If the developer says, Well, yeah, Mary Smith, I'll give you the free car washes for the residents of your building, then the developer should be the one to say for purposes of transparency, you should know that the developer has agreed to provide Mary Smith with free car washes for the residents of her building.

4:14:31

Okay, we gotta move the, we gotta keep this moving.

4:14:33

Are you amendable or not amenable to I'd like Nick to speak to that?

4:14:37

So again.

4:14:38

The question's gonna become was the consideration provided for the neighborhood association to support the measure or withhold its objection to the measure.

4:14:50

So again, this is for neighborhood associations.

4:14:52

These aren't for just random people living in a single family home in a neighborhood.

4:14:57

This is condominium.

4:14:58

This is as well.

4:14:58

This is for correct.

4:15:00

It's a condominium association.

4:15:02

Right.

4:15:03

Not just one off single individual residents in Miami Beach.

4:15:07

This is this is more to the entity than an individual.

4:15:12

But keep in mind, keep in mind, and and I and I bring this up because for example, Bay Road, I think of Bay Road.

4:15:18

Um you could have a condominium association of four units, a fourplex.

4:15:23

They're not a single family home, but they're still a condominium association, and they might fight, they might fight uh and negotiate with a developer for protections for their property.

4:15:32

Why should they be now listed as a lobbyist for fighting for the rights of their condominium association?

4:15:41

And so I think I and I'm all for the transparency that's being proposed here, but the owner should be on the developer, not on the resident that is fighting to protect their property.

4:15:52

What if there is no developer?

4:15:54

What if there is no developer in the situation?

4:15:57

Whoever's providing the compensation, whoever's providing the benefit should be the one that that uh that is required to provide the disclosure from my perspective.

4:16:06

But if there's no developer and it's just between one neighbor uh and the next, uh, you know, I mean, what if they're what if it's just uh a property owner?

4:16:15

It's not necessarily developer that wants to upzone their property.

4:16:17

Couldn't we just make it whoever makes the payment has the requirement to make the disclosure?

4:16:21

Right.

4:16:22

That if a lobbyist um has agreed to make a payment to a neighborhood association which includes a condo um for the neighborhood association to support expressly for the association to support the project, to appear at the city and support the project.

4:16:39

Well, I'm using the language that's already in there, but just uh uh consistent with what Commissioner Fernandes is saying, just put the onus on the lobbyist.

4:16:46

Same exact requirements, except instead of the neighborhood association being required to do it, it's the lobbyist.

4:16:52

Right.

4:16:52

But what if there is no lobbyist?

4:16:54

There typically is.

4:16:55

What if there's not?

4:16:56

I mean, there's there's situations where it could be it could just be a single property owner, and they're asking, you know, the owner of the property is not registered as a lobbyist.

4:17:06

And I guess they would they would technically have to be, but it there could be a situation where there's not a lobbyist and it's not a developer.

4:17:13

It could be a property owner.

4:17:14

But if I may through the mayor, usually when you are a property owner and you're going through a due process with the city, let's say you're submitting an application to the planning department for something to be considered through the Board of Adjustment.

4:17:26

You usually are provided with a package of information that has a number of regulations that you know that you as an applicant need to abide by those regulations.

4:17:38

The applicant has the benefit of that information that the city is giving you and telling you these are all the things you need to comply with as an applicant.

4:17:47

But the resident, the resident that's coming to speak at a public hearing doesn't have the benefit of that information.

4:17:53

It's the applicant who has been given a packet with all of this information from the planning the department.

4:18:00

And that's where I think the owners should be on an applicant, whether it be a single property owner or whether it be a developer, they have the benefit of much more inf information than our average residents who might be walking.

4:18:13

I mean, I've seen elderly people, people who I love fall subject of one of these ethics complaints.

4:18:19

I have seen their health deteriorate in front of my eyes because they did not know the law.

4:18:26

And we can't expect the residents of the city to know every single piece of code that we put in our ordinances, the way that the planning department does when they provide these packages to an applicant, or the way that lobbyists and developers do when they hire these high-priced attorneys?

4:18:43

Commissioner Dominguez and Commissioner Rosen-Gonzalez.

4:18:46

Okay.

4:18:46

Um I have a few amendments that I'd like to propose.

4:18:52

Um let's see.

4:18:57

Um I'll make a couple a couple comments at some of the neighborhood associations said um the requirements of the neighborhood registration form might make sense for certain circumstances, but for many issues it's ridiculous because if somebody calls about picking up trash, does that mean they have to lobby?

4:19:21

If people are calling in at Sutnik, does that mean on every issue they would have to fill out a form to make sure that they were protected?

4:19:28

So that part wasn't clear.

4:19:30

Uh can we can we just clarify that?

4:19:33

I can respond to that.

4:19:34

So the requirement the code currently requires representatives of neighborhood associations to register with the clerk's office.

4:19:42

They're exempt from the definition of lobbyists, but they are required to register with the clerk's office.

4:19:48

Um so I think that what we're what what this ordinance does with regard to the to the form is actually to make it clear, which is you know, the c the clerk can prescribe a form and it actually states what information has to be provided because we have a registration requirement.

4:20:02

By the way, I'm assuming I'm assuming we're not trying to get a gotcha if we if I I think our neighborhood associations do good work in general, they do comply.

4:20:09

I assume if we see something that's not happening, we we advise them to register.

4:20:14

I mean, I personally feel questions all the time from neighborhood associations.

4:20:17

I know the clerk does, and I know the city attorney does too.

4:20:20

Exactly.

4:20:21

And this feels like uh I'm not done.

4:20:23

But it's presumed that um it's prospective, but they want confirmation in writing that the city attorneys uh from the city attorneys how the mechanics will work.

4:20:36

Um Commissioner, if I if I I wanted to respond to your second part, which is does a neighborhood association have to register to report a missed trash pickup or you know uh a broken streetlight, and the answer to that is no.

4:20:51

I mean, neighborhood associations or individual residents, you I I don't believe that that's considered lobbying to call the city to report something like a pothole or uh you know to call the police on a public safety incident or any.

4:21:03

I don't that that's that would not be considered um lobbying.

4:21:07

Um with the situation on Bira where the ethics commission's uh said the letter of instruction, they noted in the report that the blame here rested on the city for the failure to educate neighborhood associations and residents about the requirement.

4:21:25

How are we going to educate residents and neighborhood associations with this?

4:21:30

And and I I've had a few conversations with with the city clerk's office about um amending uh the the website, uh put including it in the in the standard notices on our on the cover pages for our agendas.

4:21:44

Ralph may be able to speak to some other uh to some other ways that we can we can get the word out if this if this passes.

4:21:51

And if I may jump in, we've also talked about doing an email blast to all of the neighborhood associations that are registered and condo associations with the new requirements.

4:22:02

There was also a lot of concern about non-monetary and the implications of using public rooms and uh things of that nature.

4:22:11

So the the um the non-monetary and monetary, what that refers to is if if uh if an association is going to receive compensation from a third party for the express purpose of supporting an application or withholding its objection to an application, uh then it would need to be disclosed.

4:22:32

But just any consideration, you know, non-monetary or monetary that's not in connection with their support, I don't think would fall within this ordinance.

4:22:42

It's it's really only if the consideration is provided for the association to come and appear and support a project, which which is consistent with with um with with a rule in the land development regulations, um, which is that uh developers are required to disclose if they have settled with a third party um in exchange for their support or opposition to a project.

4:23:05

And the written disclosure for residents, um the theme that I heard from the associations was that this is cumbersome, and we've already gone over this a little bit, but this is anyone that goes to speak on anything, anybody speaking would have to fill out the form.

4:23:21

So I think there needs to be crystal clearly.

4:23:26

Well, can you speak to that, Nick?

4:23:29

Um so the it would the written disclosure would apply any time a neighborhood association is doing uh lobbying activities.

4:23:40

So if if they're appearing before the city commission or one of our boards or committees uh or the city manager um to lobby, you know, for example, this body to adopt an ordinance or not adopt an ordinance or to approve a resolution or not approve a resolution.

4:23:57

In those instances, a neighborhood association would have to register.

4:24:01

Again, it's not as a lobbyist, it's it's as you know, as a uh as an exempt from the definition of lobbyists.

4:24:08

So the neighborhood associations I spoke to did felt that that was cumbersome.

4:24:13

And it's something that um was a little bit over the top.

4:24:17

So maybe taking that part out.

4:24:19

Um really prevent people from speaking at City Hall on any issue.

4:24:26

You can't vote in favor of stuff because then you might get in trouble because somebody on the commission might file an ethics complaint against you because you didn't fill out a form.

4:24:36

I mean, if you're getting 1.2 million dollars to your entity for supporting a project that you didn't inform your residents of, I think we should know about that.

4:24:43

I I this is egregious.

4:24:45

I mean, we should know if there's money being involved or or non-monetary compensation.

4:24:50

I I don't I don't see what the issue is.

4:24:52

This you we're gonna set the stage or precedent for neighborhood associations to be just another mouthpiece for a developer to get their project done.

4:25:01

That's ridiculous.

4:25:02

I mean, this is 1.2 million dollars.

4:25:04

Have you ever heard of a more ridiculous thing in Miami Beach where a developer goes to a neighborhood association says, hey, can you please support this project?

4:25:11

We're willing to give you 1.2 million dollars in in in your support.

4:25:15

And then to have the audacity for a month later to then inform the residents of their quote unquote neighborhood that, hey, by the way, we just passed this.

4:25:24

There's nothing you can do because we're contractually obligated to support it.

4:25:27

And we by the way, we've already got 360,000.

4:25:30

How and we're gonna decide how we want to spend the money.

4:25:33

I think that's ridiculous.

4:25:34

That is absolutely ridiculous.

4:25:36

And I think it's offensive to the people here that came here today to say that that's not that that's not how things should be.

4:25:41

I mean, this is ridiculous.

4:25:42

Neighborhood associations deserve to know about this, and I think it needs to be referred to neighborhoods to get flushed out.

4:25:48

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez and then Commissioner Magazine.

4:25:50

And then let's call, then let's figure out which parts we're gonna accept.

4:25:54

Let's let's take the vote.

4:25:56

First of all, thank you, Commissioner Suarez, for focusing on the issue.

4:25:59

That was good.

4:26:01

Um to the people of Bell Isle who are here.

4:26:04

You know, I remember a couple of years ago, I tried to have the standard declared historic.

4:26:11

Because I've spent so many wonderful days there, and actually the administration supported me on that.

4:26:18

And when I proposed it, I couldn't even get a second to my motion to hear the item.

4:26:24

And at the time I was very confused because I know about the love for the standard in our community.

4:26:29

And I knew inherently that nobody in Bell Isle would be happy seeing a big cement building plopped on the standard in those gardens.

4:26:38

As a matter of fact, I was there uh for an event a few weeks ago.

4:26:42

And as I was walking down that beautiful pathway toward the bay and the gardens, I thought this will all be destroyed if this is developed.

4:26:52

And I have run into the owner of that property several times, and he even even he said to me, you know, people around the world are telling me not to develop the standard, and I said, Well, there you have it right there.

4:27:03

That's why you have this tremendous historic project.

4:27:05

So I think the problem here is not necessarily the neighborhood associations, but the fact that you have a payment, a payer, and a payee.

4:27:15

Right.

4:27:15

Right?

4:27:16

And I think that what this legislation needs to do is if you're accepting payment, you have to disclose it.

4:27:22

If you are paying anyone, you also have to disclose it.

4:27:26

That is really what this should be about.

4:27:31

Not, you know, if you're advocating for you know the your condo association for you know whatever in terms of a development.

4:27:38

This is about payment.

4:27:39

So I think, Nick, could you go back and amend this and make it about payment disclosures?

4:27:45

Because whether it's the property owner or the lobbyist or a third party that's coming in to do something, that is where uh the problem lies.

4:27:55

I in my personal opinion.

4:27:57

You know, and that that that's where the problem lies.

4:28:00

I I I wholeheartedly agree with you, Commissioner.

4:28:03

However, payment doesn't always come in the form of cash or a check or a wire.

4:28:08

It can come in the form of something very simple like Super Bowl tickets or uh cryptocurrency.

4:28:16

And so, you know, that's why we do monetary and non-monetary compensation on this on this.

4:28:23

That's why I've I've crafted this.

4:28:25

Should we place a value on it though?

4:28:27

Because for example, I've attended maybe many neighborhood associations where a local restaurant, for example, will donate food to the neighborhood association, and I don't necessarily know that that needs to be disclosed.

4:28:37

That you know, type of payment, or you know, maybe somebody sounds fair.

4:28:46

Um a disclosure from both parties.

4:28:49

And that should solve this problem.

4:28:51

It should remove the onus from associations from all neighborhood associations and allow them to advocate freely without the worry about uh registering as lobbyists.

4:29:01

Um because in my opinion that that's where the problem lies.

4:29:06

How do you feel about that, Commissioner Swares?

4:29:08

Well, let Nick, because he seems like he wants to say something.

4:29:10

So the the ordinance could be amended to to on that specific section, right?

4:29:15

The the requiring neighborhood associations to register as a lobbyist if they're gonna receive consideration.

4:29:20

It could be amended not to require them to register as lobbyists, but um but require that the payment, if there is consideration that the payment or non-monetary consideration be disclosed.

4:29:32

That's a that's a possible amendment.

4:29:38

You know, like what would catering for an event be?

4:29:40

I don't necessarily know that that should have to be disclosed.

4:29:44

I would say if any payment is greater than a thousand dollars is going to be taken, should be disclosed.

4:29:50

Well, what is it for elected officials, Nick?

4:29:52

Commissioner Magazine.

4:29:54

The gift threshold is is a hundred dollars for disclosure.

4:29:58

Yeah.

4:30:00

Commissioner Magazine, I I would say for one to do this, it has to have some sort of threshold.

4:30:04

Um I get concern about government just being too intrusive in too many people's lives.

4:30:12

Look at these agendas.

4:30:13

Every single month, we have 200 items about how us, our government is going to be more involved in your lives.

4:30:22

Have you seen anything up here in the past hour and a half that suggests you want us more involved in your lives?

4:30:28

In fact, if I had to talk to our residents, I'd say start advocating to get us less involved in your lives, less intrusive, less involved.

4:30:36

There's nothing up here that suggests we should have more involvement.

4:30:40

So to have something where two neighbors in a single family home have to come and somehow disclose, hey, I I bought Bob a case of beer and he's okay with me going a foot over my fence.

4:30:53

That's not the role of government.

4:30:54

It's not what I signed up for.

4:30:56

I don't want to be involved in that.

4:30:59

Small government guy, we we shouldn't be involved in that.

4:31:01

So if we're going to go forward, there were some serious issues that were brought up here that have come to attention.

4:31:07

I think the sunshine poll.

4:31:11

This can address it, but it should be not a gotcha where the heavy hand of government comes down on our residents and actually precludes them from being involved.

4:31:23

So some sort of threshold amount.

4:31:25

But then also part of the fault is ours, right?

4:31:29

If somebody stands up here and goes, Well, I represent XYZ and we just give total deference.

4:31:37

Whose fault is that?

4:31:38

We enable it.

4:31:40

Right?

4:31:40

Sorry, we got elected for a reason.

4:31:42

It's a representative democracy.

4:31:45

We value input, yes, of course.

4:31:47

But if we just give complete deference, that's why neighborhood associations are able to get one million dollars or whatever it may be to support something because they know if they go, well, neighborhood XYZ supports it, we go sign sealed and delivered.

4:32:02

Right?

4:32:02

So we need to just not take that at face value, especially evaluating are there local elections for these neighborhood associations, or are there not?

4:32:12

Right?

4:32:12

Have some nuance to who's up here representing in front of us.

4:32:17

Um I do think that there are a lot of good things that came out of this.

4:32:23

It does kind of show behind the scenes how some of these processes work, but I want to find a fine line of our government not being too heavy-handed to actually discourage free and open debate involvement and certainly not getting more and more involved and intrusive in people's lives.

4:32:43

Commissioner Bott.

4:32:46

Nick, can you um help illuminate the difference on how this would have gone?

4:32:51

This particular proposal would have gone if um the applicant had worked with the um the city to deliver community benefits, which based on my observation of living in Miami Beach and being involved for a long time is very normal.

4:33:10

Um community benefits are unless there's a wholesale, you know, redistricting or overlay or whatever.

4:33:18

Um community benefits are a normal process, um, part of the process.

4:33:23

So can you help edify people who are listening?

4:33:28

How this would have been different had the applicants come directly to the city manager to have this conversation versus going to um can I speak the the um uh residents?

4:33:41

I think that the city commission um when you're considering a legislative application, which is what this is, right?

4:33:49

What was pending before the the land use committee was a legislative application?

4:33:53

Um the the city commission can consider you have a you know you have your broad discretion whether or not um you adopt that legislation while you while as a general rule you can't condition your approval of legislation on a developer giving something up, it's it's frequent, as you pointed out, Commissioner, that a developer will will proffer uh public benefits to either mitigate the the impacts of a proposed development or address issues in the area where where the development will be built.

4:34:28

So in in this particular instance or in any other, um the developer could make a proffer, you know, if it's going to be uh a uh uh uh capital improvements or um you know uh programming in a in a park, um a developer could make that proffer to to the city.

4:34:47

And that's good.

4:34:48

That's a good thing.

4:34:49

The city is important.

4:34:50

I wasn't Commissioner Bott.

4:35:00

Um so might it make sense to contemplate that any developer that is seeking to proffer benefits for community, uh a neighborhood that in which they are contemplating a project come through the city rather than through neighborhood associations.

4:35:16

Would that help alleviate some of this um certainly some of this concern about how things get done?

4:35:26

I mean, sausage making is ugly under the best of circumstances, and so is this a way is that would that be a way to address some of those concerns?

4:35:35

Ultimately it's up to the developer how they're going to make their pitch.

4:35:39

Um but I think that as you pointed out, developers will often um proffer, make those proffers at the outset.

4:35:48

You know, what somebody does, what an applicant does before they decide to present to the city uh how they strategize is is really up to them.

4:35:57

Um but we can encourage developers to, especially when it relates to public improvements or or public programming, we can certainly encourage developers to meet with the city.

4:36:08

Yeah.

4:36:08

Okay, before you go, uh Commissioner Dominguez, Commissioner Suarez, now let's bring this home.

4:36:12

We've heard the comments from everybody here.

4:36:14

I think we know where the the uh the critical points are.

4:36:17

I do want to share something.

4:36:18

If I could just make one, oh, as we're gonna do that.

4:36:20

I do want to share something important.

4:36:22

So the city has done this in the past many times where development agreements are paid.

4:36:27

Um back when um one of the Bureau Board members lived on West Avenue, he was a member of WAVNA.

4:36:34

At WADNA was able to secure a public benefit for a project of $600,000.

4:36:40

Um it was supposed to be spent on West Avenue.

4:36:43

A new commission came in.

4:36:45

What do you think happened?

4:36:46

One of the commissioners moved the 600,000 to North Beach, and WABNA didn't get a penny.

4:36:52

So since then, one of the Bureau Board members moved to Bell Isle when this situation came up, they were afraid that the same thing would happen, that the neighborhood would not receive a penny, and that's why they had hired an outside council, formed an outside organization, and the money went there instead of the city, because they didn't trust that the commission would keep it in their neighborhood.

4:37:12

And private settlement agreements do happen all the time.

4:37:15

It's not something new.

4:37:17

What um neighborhood associations uh try to do is have it spent in their neighborhood, whether it's for FPL undergrounding or new parks, a variety of different things.

4:37:28

But that's why that happened, not going to the city because they got um the money taken away.

4:37:35

Nick, you were about to say something?

4:37:36

I just a suggestion that the inspector general made to me, which I think is important, is these rules don't apply to individual residents who are appearing before the shit the city on their own behalf.

4:37:47

This only applies um to the individual who's appearing who's designated by the neighborhood association, right?

4:37:54

It's it's not uh everybody who lives in a neighborhood on a on a particular uh uh issue who has to register, it's the it's the representative.

4:38:02

Uh um, for clarification on that, Nick.

4:38:05

So even if you were hypothetically speaking on a board um where a project was being contemplated, but you are not here to speak on behalf of the board.

4:38:15

You're here to speak on your own personal behalf as a resident.

4:38:20

You could you wouldn't be subject to this.

4:38:23

It's only if you're a rep I mean Nancy Lee used to do all the time with MBU, right?

4:38:27

She's like, I know MBU is taking these positions, but this is what I'm telling you, I think it's right on, you know, as Nancy Lee Lehman.

4:38:33

So in this case, Nancy would not be required to um register, but if she had been advocating on behalf of MBU, and I know it's not a perfect example, but had she been advocating on on the board uh on behalf of MBU, then she would have to register in this modified That is a perfect example.

4:38:52

If if Nancy had appeared in her individual capacity as a resident, she would not have to register now, and she would not have to register tomorrow if this is adopted.

4:39:00

Mr.

4:39:00

Mayor?

4:39:01

Commissioner Suarez.

4:39:02

One last thing.

4:39:03

Can you bring it home for us?

4:39:04

Yeah, one last thing.

4:39:05

The inspector general wrote a report on this.

4:39:07

I I would like to have him come speak and just give a few thoughts on his findings on this issue.

4:39:13

I think it's important that we uh um just look, just a little bit of transparency, Joe, if you can make it real quick.

4:39:21

Um and what your thoughts are of this whole of the whole process.

4:39:25

Very quickly.

4:39:37

Um and I see this there's a lot of you know confusion, I think, among the public and maybe even among commissioners.

4:39:44

I mean, the the ordinance is completely separate from the from the merits of the actual development.

4:39:50

It's a separate matter.

4:39:51

I mean the we don't take any position on the development.

4:39:54

That's not our not our our uh role.

4:39:56

We did get involved in the discussion about the ordinance.

4:40:00

Uh clearly the I mean the the idea that everybody who might be on the in the organization has to come in and register.

4:40:08

That was never never my thought that that that that would be a requirement.

4:40:12

In fact, in the county ordinance, I think in the city ordinance always, there's there's always an exemption for anybody that wants to come and speak to the commission on their own behalf.

4:40:20

This is as Mr.

4:40:22

Kalurgis pointed out, it's the designated representative.

4:40:26

Overall, we think it's a good idea to have more transparency.

4:40:29

I think if if we had that transparency, probably we wouldn't be in this situation at this point.

4:40:34

So I mean I think the and and again, this was not a corruption matter.

4:40:37

I uh this was simply a matter of process.

4:40:40

That's the thing we looked at.

4:40:41

And we thought the process could be could be improved and we made those recommendations.

4:40:46

So really that's where we where we're at.

4:40:49

I know.

4:40:50

Thank you, Commissioner Mayor.

4:40:52

And then I'll just uh the mayor said I can speak.

4:40:56

Joe, just one quick question.

4:40:58

I read the inspector general report on uh Bira, and you guys did not conduct an investigation and everything was uh you worked and assisted, but no investigation was done.

4:41:09

Not by us, no.

4:41:10

Right, thank you.

4:41:14

Quick question.

4:41:16

One of the challenges that I have had over the years, and I've tried to address in the past, and I think it might be an opportune time to to look at this again, is what is a neighborhood organization?

4:41:29

You know, uh and so and so the thing is okay.

4:41:33

If an entity, if an individual is required to register because they are representing a neighborhood association.

4:41:43

Who is the neighborhood association?

4:41:46

What if what if the money goes to a third party?

4:41:53

Then who and this is why I go back to the point of the onerous should not be on the public because the money can go anywhere in in in the public, even to entities that we might not know that exists, or to people that might not have anything to do with the association.

4:42:13

The onerous to report should be on the applicant, on the developer, on the developer or the interested party that is making the payment for them to disclose this is the payment I'm I made, this is the person who I made it to.

4:42:31

Because otherwise, I mean who's a neighborhood association?

4:42:34

So the it's and it's very short.

4:42:36

The definition is an organization of residential owner homeowners and tenants created to address quality of life issues in a defined neighborhood or community.

4:42:44

Sometimes they're incorporated as a nonprofit.

4:42:47

Um sometimes they're not.

4:42:52

I think it we've seen a history of it of that being very ambiguous.

4:42:58

Um and even oftentimes they'll say, okay, well, we're gonna create us like going back to the example that's been used.

4:43:05

A separate entity is created.

4:43:08

An entity that is not representing a neighborhood, but the money is going now to that entity.

4:43:14

That entity could just be a management, a management account that's responsible for the disbursement of funds to reinvest into an area.

4:43:24

A 501c3, a nonprofit that says friends, friends of the community garden.

4:43:31

Friends of the community garden now is getting this money.

4:43:33

Friends of the community garden is not a neighborhood association, it's not representing tenants.

4:43:38

It's not representing homeowners.

4:43:41

Yet someone asked for that money to go to Friends of the Community Garden.

4:43:46

And now that doesn't need to get disclosed?

4:43:49

It would under this ordinance.

4:43:51

It wouldn't need to be disclosed.

4:43:52

But it's but but that's not representing tenants or homeowners.

4:43:55

Well, but the or the ordinance says if the if the neighborhood association or its designee will receive um consideration.

4:44:03

So the designee of a neighborhood association would be a third party.

4:44:08

Um it's on page three of the ordinance.

4:44:10

I would say I I don't feel comfortable putting the onerous on the residents.

4:44:14

I I feel comfortable and I believe transparency is key, it's important, and we want transparency.

4:44:20

But I don't want to uh discourage civic participation.

4:44:24

I'm 100% on board if we put this onerous on the entity that is choosing to make the payment, not on the resident that simply wants to be civically active.

4:44:35

I agree.

4:44:36

And then I think we just have to resolve the threshold.

4:44:39

We said a thousand dollars, let's figure that out.

4:44:41

But it might have to be bigger because, for example, in twelve 1250, the building next door got new windows during that project.

4:44:48

And that was like 25,000.

4:44:50

So I don't know what the right threshold is, but I think we should flesh it out at committee and do something that's that's well don't.

4:44:56

Well, first of all, don't you don't you think it's important that they do disclose that they're getting new windows for supporting a project?

4:45:02

I I think so.

4:45:03

I don't see a problem with it.

4:45:04

You know, I I overall, as long as the onus isn't on, you know, on the residents.

4:45:10

On the residents.

4:45:10

But the onus is always a lot of people.

4:45:13

If it was up to me, I would just have all payments over a thousand.

4:45:16

I would make it a thousand.

4:45:17

That's what I mean.

4:45:19

I would agree with you.

4:45:20

Just to make things clear, Nick, this is already law.

4:45:23

This is already part of our ethics.

4:45:25

It's anyone who who gives or or or receives.

4:45:28

Is that correct?

4:45:29

And what we're doing is we're clarifying that language so that the ethics commission can actually enforce this for us.

4:45:36

Well, there are a couple different things.

4:45:38

So neighborhood associations right now are required to file the separate registration.

4:45:45

We have a contingency fee prohibition in the code now.

4:45:50

Um so I I think and and also in the land development regulations, if you have an application before a land use board and you have settled with a third party in exchange for that party's uh support for a project, you have to disclose it.

4:46:03

So what this does is it says a neighborhood association becomes a falls within the definition of lobbyist if the association is going to receive uh consideration in exchange for their support of an item.

4:46:18

Okay.

4:46:18

We're 95% there.

4:46:20

We have two points.

4:46:20

We got to bring this to a vote.

4:46:21

By the way, if we don't get this to a vote soon, I'm gonna make a motion to refer to a committee.

4:46:25

We we fleshed out the issues.

4:46:26

Commissioner Rosen is allowed.

4:46:27

And I think that's the thing.

4:46:28

The final thing that I would like to say to all of our neighborhood associations is I would like to thank them for what they do because as you walk around the city, certain neighborhoods that have better sidewalks or lighting or police presence or better foliage or parks, it's most of the time because of the advocacy of that neighborhood association.

4:46:47

I had a neighborhood come to me the other day and they said we don't get anything up here.

4:46:51

And I said, Well, you guys need to organize and uh you know be able to present and speak to the commission.

4:46:56

So you know, for the most part, uh I'm grateful for the neighborhood associations.

4:47:01

They make our job a little bit easier because they bring us the improvements that are much needed.

4:47:06

So I you know, I don't want to, you know, vilify the neighborhood association.

4:47:11

So are we going to vote on this right now, or are we going to send this to committee?

4:47:16

What are we going to do?

4:47:17

Because I think we should bring it in for our landing.

4:47:19

Yeah.

4:47:19

And I'm I'm consistent with what Commissioner Fernandez is saying to put the onus on the payor, not the residential association.

4:47:27

As I said in my opening this item, uh we have some outstanding neighborhood associations and people give a lot of their time to make our city better and their neighborhoods better.

4:47:36

Um let's just let's figure that out, see where the votes are and the threshold.

4:47:40

And if I just may I want to clarify a point with Nick.

4:47:43

We currently have a requirement to disclose settlement agreements that applies only to the developer, it applies also to the parties appearing.

4:47:52

The requirement in the LDRs applies to the developer.

4:47:56

To the applicant.

4:47:57

Okay.

4:47:57

Uh and there was also a question of removing the requirement to register at all if you're not, but we can't do that without a referendum.

4:48:06

I want to be clear, we can't take things out of our ethics provisions that would make the the code less restrictive.

4:48:13

No, but we could we this change would make a neighborhood association a lobbyist if they're going to receive compensation.

4:48:21

So we we could take that part out and amend it to say that a lobbyist is required to disclose if a neighborhood association or its designee receives or will receive um consideration pursuant to an agreement with a third party and take out the provision making them a lobbyist.

4:48:40

And that's on page three.

4:48:44

You're not you're not changing your you're saying amending the proposed language, not the ex not the existing code.

4:48:51

Correct.

4:48:52

And you're looking at what part, what section?

4:48:54

At the at the underlying paragraph at the top of page three of the ordinance.

4:48:58

Yes, and I was referring to an earlier proposal made about neighborhood associations not being required to register if they're not receiving compensation.

4:49:06

That part, the registration requirement that exists today we cannot touch.

4:49:10

I don't think anyone has proposed that.

4:49:12

I think I I think what we're saying is the owners on the disclosure of the funding that that owner is not fall on the resident, but on the interested party that is making the payment.

4:49:24

Right.

4:49:25

Okay.

4:49:25

So that would be striking the first part of that paragraph.

4:49:30

We enhance our ethics ordinance.

4:49:32

We don't weaken our ethics ordinance.

4:49:34

Exactly.

4:49:35

Right.

4:49:36

So we so we could strike the first part of the paragraph and say instead a lobbyist is required to disclose if a neighborhood association and then the rest of the paragraph would remain the same.

4:49:47

Well, what about the the interested party of the project that's coming before a land use board or the city commission, not just a lobbyist.

4:50:00

Anyone who's appearing before the city on a project on behalf of a of a of a third party is is a lobbyist.

4:50:07

Okay, so exactly.

4:50:09

But neighborhood associations are exempt from the the term lobbyist.

4:50:13

So if we do this, neighborhood associations can technically continue doing what they're doing under the auspice of a neighborhood association.

4:50:21

They would still be a neighborhood association, they would not be a lobbyist, that's correct.

4:50:24

But the amendment I think what you're saying is that an interested party may not be a lobbyist.

4:50:31

What Nick is saying that they automatically have to be registered as a lobbyist if they're coming to appear before a either us as a commission or any of our our land use boards.

4:50:41

By definition, they're a lobbyist.

4:50:42

Is that what you're saying?

4:50:43

I thought the question was anyone who's appearing on behalf of the developer, they are lobbyists.

4:50:47

What about so they would have to register, they would have to disclose if a neighborhood association is going to receive compensation under Commissioner Fernandez's proposed amendment.

4:50:56

What if it is not a development item?

4:50:58

Let's say it's just uh uh a piece of legislation that's important to uh some industry it would apply to them too.

4:51:05

If some if uh if a lobbyist is uh who's appearing before the city has paid a third party um to support uh whatever it is that they're seeking that would have to be discussed.

4:51:16

I think what would cover both situations is a lobbyist or a principal who is interested in the project, which would include developers or any other party, so that if a principal doesn't have a lobbyist as it and is appearing, I mean I suppose they would be a lobbyist in that situation.

4:51:32

I I'd feel more comfortable if we have the language in there just to make it very clear to the ethics commission that is the responsible body for enforcing our our ethics laws because we don't see my beach doesn't have an ethical.

4:51:44

I think your language is good, Rick.

4:51:46

That covers it.

4:51:47

And and I also think that what you're concerned about, which is a contingency fee, we are not changing the language that is currently proposed, which is simply to cover if there is a contingency fee, which is a different thing altogether, then if you're an individual acting on behalf of an organization, you're still covered.

4:52:05

Okay.

4:52:06

So we all comfortable with that?

4:52:09

And the threshold?

4:52:10

I mean, I think we heard a thousand dollars.

4:52:12

I'm okay with that.

4:52:12

It's just basically saying you have to.

4:52:13

I think a thousand dollars is great, it's fine.

4:52:15

Yeah.

4:52:16

Okay.

4:52:16

So we're ready to call the vote.

4:52:20

And this is including the amendment.

4:52:22

Correct.

4:52:22

Okay, I'll make the motion.

4:52:27

I'll second.

4:52:29

It is a public hearing, even though we had comment before formally, we reopened the item.

4:52:34

I have one individual requesting to speak.

4:52:36

If there's anyone requesting to speak, please approach the podium of Mary Sandro who wishes to speak.

4:52:41

Thank you.

4:52:42

It's really just a question.

4:52:44

Hold on for one second.

4:52:45

Mary, go ahead, please.

4:52:50

Mary, unmute yourself.

4:52:51

Yes.

4:52:51

Yep.

4:52:52

Thank you so much.

4:52:54

I you may have already uh addressed some of this, yet I wanted to go on record.

4:52:58

I really appreciate this forum.

4:53:00

Thank you so much.

4:53:01

So my questionslash comment is regarding the intersection of development and also the water quality issues that we have been facing in the ocean, in the canals, in the bay, etc.

4:53:14

Um I'm really hoping uh there's there's been some talk that potentially the dredging may not go through.

4:53:22

Um Mary, are you here to talk of this ordinance though?

4:53:26

Uh oh, I guess oh I'm sorry.

4:53:29

No, I guess uh we're gonna do Sutnik uh when we come back from the case.

4:53:32

Oh I'm sorry, I thought it was the Sutnik.

4:53:34

No, no, I'm so sorry.

4:53:35

Thank you.

4:53:37

My bad, thank you.

4:53:38

Thank you.

4:53:38

Go ahead, please.

4:53:39

Thank you, Mr.

4:53:39

Granado.

4:53:41

Patricia Agnello 2555.

4:53:43

And start your name.

4:53:44

Patricia Agnello 255 Collins Avenue.

4:53:47

I am not a resident of Bell Isle, but I am an ethics professor and an attorney, and I have a question.

4:53:53

Can this deal be avoided for a lack of good faith in bargaining?

4:53:58

And what happened to the hundreds of thousands that have been paid out.

4:54:05

We wouldn't be able to speak to a private agreement.

4:54:07

We we weren't we're not a party to the agreement.

4:54:09

The city's not a party, so I couldn't speak to a private agreement between the developer and the association.

4:54:14

Okay.

4:54:16

We're gonna go next to Sarah de los reyes on item R5K.

4:54:24

Good afternoon.

4:54:25

I've been listening to the whole conversation.

4:54:27

And and they are correct.

4:54:29

The the items should be disclosed in the developer with with the association, and it should provide a public benefit to the neighborhood.

4:54:40

And that is very important, and that's something that we push very hard in Central Harbor Neighborhood Association because we take no funds whatsoever.

4:54:47

We deal with the city and we work with the city in order to make sure that things are disclosed.

4:54:52

Thank you very much, and I'm glad that this came up.

4:54:54

Thank you.

4:54:55

Go ahead, please.

4:54:56

Thank you, Sarah.

4:54:57

Uh Blanca Villarello, Octavon Tower 1881 Washington Avenue.

4:55:01

I have been president of one of my associations, a member of the other one.

4:55:06

So this has been very confusing because you went from neighborhood associations to condo associations to single homes.

4:55:14

So I don't think single homes need a permit to if a developer comes and talks to them, they have to come and request permits.

4:55:23

If a condo association, if a developer comes and wants to buy my building, and they want to talk to our association, it's our decision, and then we will have to come here and go through the permits.

4:55:37

But when we come to a neighborhood associations, those are the organizations that are lobby bubble, that they are susceptible to be lobbying because they are representing many communities and many areas, and some ones might want the big building, and the other one.

4:55:59

So I do think that if it's a neighborhood association, yes, they should be considered as lobbyists because they are lobbying when something big is coming, it's into time.

4:56:14

But that's my experience of what I've seen, and I think that's where the issue is in the neighborhood associations, not in the condo, not in the single homes.

4:56:23

Thank you.

4:56:24

Thank you.

4:56:24

Our next public speaker via Zoom is Douglas Rogers.

4:56:29

That's nice.

4:56:32

Yes, I just wanted to say that I'm against this legislation, and particularly commissioners whereas, I mean, you have no evidence that anyone here has done anything untowardly wrong and use this money inappropriately.

4:56:45

You are just dragging citizens, citizens that are trying to speak out for us on Bell Island.

4:56:51

I mean, you also in your presentation, you said that we're all against it.

4:56:56

I live on Bell Island.

4:56:57

I live at Five Island.

4:56:59

I can show you my ID.

4:57:01

I support this.

4:57:03

And you're just trying to squelch citizen groups from putting input.

4:57:07

And I'm appalled at that.

4:57:08

I mean, this piece of legislation just tries to silence citizen groups.

4:57:13

And people like you are using this example of what happened on Bell Island to just further your agenda, your hidden agenda that you have not disclosed either.

4:57:27

Thank you.

4:57:28

Thank you.

4:57:29

Go ahead, please.

4:57:29

Site your name and address.

4:57:32

Hi, Brian Ehrlich, uh, Five Island Avenue.

4:57:35

Um the standard began as the Dolito Spa in the 1950s.

4:57:40

Uh a gem of mid-century landmark architecture.

4:57:45

And it is since shaped the character of Belle Isle.

4:57:49

You know, it's said that architecture is frozen poetry, and you see that poetry when you enter the standard.

4:57:55

You see it through the breeze block.

4:57:57

You see it through the beautiful gardens outside.

4:58:00

You see it through the horizontal profile, a low horizontal profile that keeps the building grounded in a human scale.

4:58:09

That is why the betrayal of this project cuts so deep.

4:58:13

It's not just about density and scale or condos.

4:58:17

It's about whether we honor our landmarks and our neighborhoods, or whether we reduce them to transactions.

4:58:25

Instead of authentic engagement, money changed hands, a contract tied to city support, and payouts were contingent upon approvals.

4:58:35

And no election has occurred at this particular neighborhood association.

4:58:40

And I'm very, very aware that there are some incredible neighborhood associations that are that are working in the city, but there was no election here.

4:58:47

I've spoken to more than 400 Belle Isle residents about this project, and 98% of them are not in favor of it.

4:58:54

This project is out of line with density and scale.

4:58:57

It's not about whether we honor our residents, and it does not honor the character of our neighborhood, the neighborhood that I live in.

4:59:05

It has not respected Belle Isle.

4:59:08

I am very happy that you guys are looking at uh the commission is looking at strengthening our ordinances on lobbyist transparency, but the bottom line is that the commission represents us, the residents doesn't represent out-of-state developers, it doesn't represent unelected neighborhood associations, it represents us.

4:59:28

And Miami Beach is strongest when our processes are transparent.

4:59:34

Thank you.

4:59:35

Our next caller is Keith.

4:59:42

Uh Keith Marks, 50 South Point, president of Sofna.

4:59:47

Um had concerns with the ordinance that you have now addressed.

4:59:55

Um I talked to David about it.

5:00:00

I I know that several other associations had concerns.

5:00:04

And it is specifically had to do with the uh issue of threshold, which uh you have now moved to a thousand.

5:00:15

Uh we we certainly uh don't take money from developers.

5:00:21

And if somebody wanted to talk to us and they ended up buying our lunch, we didn't think that that's going to influence our decision one way or another.

5:00:31

And I've never had a thousand dollar lunch.

5:00:34

So I think transparency is good.

5:00:38

I don't 90% of maybe more of our associations uh lobby for a project or against a project, not based on developers' promises to the association, but whether it's good or not for the community.

5:00:59

So putting that guardrail on there and saying you took over a thousand dollars, you must register as a lobbyist if you're going to write the commission or speak to the commission is is a good uh idea.

5:01:13

I'm glad you thrashed it out.

5:01:15

It has nothing to do with any specific commissioner, it is just good government.

5:01:21

Thank you.

5:01:23

Thank you.

5:01:23

Everyone else who's requesting to speak has spoken already.

5:01:26

So I'm gonna ask you to limit it to one minute since you already had your two minutes.

5:01:31

So okay.

5:01:32

Well, I saw five minutes just now.

5:01:34

Christina, make a bit spell aisle.

5:01:36

Um thank you all for the spirit of debate.

5:01:39

Um this is not about any one person or any one decision.

5:01:43

Uh I got into politics because of this issue, because I wanted a voice.

5:01:47

I've also been on the receiving end and just battered and beaten up over this issue amongst individual condo issues.

5:01:55

You guys need to know the decisions that are made in these boards, they affect the contours on the island.

5:01:59

Um, I will be emailing everybody, but I think a great thing to do is start with the management offices of these property management companies that are maybe not sharing this information.

5:02:08

Transparency, look at the pharma act.

5:02:10

I work in medicine.

5:02:11

There's transparency and reporting thresholds.

5:02:14

There can be an onus without having government involved, but truthfully, we've all been looking for government to get involved on this, and we needed help, and we didn't have it.

5:02:22

And it's not pointing a finger, it's just pointing a finger at a process in a system.

5:02:28

Um, I encourage you to just look at email timeline state stamps and just let's help me if the association get a little bit um more clarification and better.

5:02:37

Thanks.

5:02:38

Thank you.

5:02:39

Our next speaker is Daniel.

5:02:40

Daniel Same, you spoke on this already.

5:02:42

I'm requesting that you keep it to one minute, please.

5:02:48

Thank you, uh, commissioners.

5:02:50

It's really rich to hear uh the sponsor talk about transparency and compensation when this commission actually hired an attorney to fight the state law that requires all of elected officials to share their compensation, the amount and where it comes from.

5:03:08

So, you know, it's very easy to throw rocks, but I want to say that transparency starts at home, and this commission has a lot of work to do.

5:03:17

It needs to stop making enemies of our wonderful residents in Belle Isle.

5:03:23

I see now one of my opponents, Brian Erlitch was featured in Commissioner Suarez's video.

5:03:28

I know the commissioner has donated to Brian's campaign, and now Brian is attacking Bell Isle residents.

5:03:35

I would ask you all to look at everyone's record, including Brian's on the Board of Adjustment and Historic Preservation, where he approved many oversized out-of-scale buildings.

5:03:46

Please stop the witch hunts.

5:03:47

Thank you, Mr.

5:03:48

Daniel.

5:03:49

Go ahead, please.

5:03:50

You have one minute.

5:03:51

I would like clarification on the amendments and to fully understand the thousand dollar limit.

5:04:05

Whenever funds are received, that is clear who the funds will be um given to and be utilized by the vistas condominium will be the most impacted.

5:04:20

I can literally throw a rock and hit the vistas.

5:04:24

So we're gonna be the most impacted.

5:04:27

And I have not the Vistas have not received one cent, nor do we expect to receive one cent of that 1.2 million dollar payout.

5:04:40

Thank you so much.

5:04:40

Your name was.

5:04:41

I'm sorry.

5:04:43

Houghton.

5:04:44

Thank you.

5:04:45

Go ahead, please.

5:04:46

State your name.

5:04:47

You have two minutes.

5:04:48

One did you mean a 305 Crespy Boulevard?

5:04:52

I'm talking about this ordinance, and I believe that all neighborhood associations should be listed as lobbyists because the process to decipher which one is and which is not.

5:05:00

Because the process to decipher which one is and which is not.

5:05:04

I personally know some that are also in planning boards in land use boards.

5:05:10

And then again, they are also running neighborhood associations.

5:05:14

So I think it will make it easier to just classify them as lobbyists, because we all know that there are some neighborhood associations.

5:05:32

And then they use that influence to advise the base on decisions, and especially over development and whatever else.

5:05:42

And I think this is a big conflict of interest.

5:05:45

Not doing this, it it I think it will put more stress on the officials to determine which are the associations that are lobbying and which are the ones that are on lobbying.

5:06:02

So I would respectfully ask the days.

5:06:40

We worried about everything that's going on.

5:06:43

We have to have transparency, which we don't in many cases.

5:06:49

Not from many people.

5:06:53

I appreciate it.

5:06:54

Thank you.

5:06:54

The next caller is Wayne Roberts.

5:06:56

Mr.

5:06:56

Roberts, you spoke on this item already, so I'm going to give you one minute.

5:06:59

Please go ahead, sir.

5:07:01

Thank you.

5:07:02

Um my only concern, I I really like that uh we've revised the agreement or the legislation to uh make the sponsor responsible for the um for the uh uh statement on on contributions to any parties, third parties.

5:07:18

My question really is because I'm concerned with the funding for like organizations like MBU and MDPL at a thousand dollar limit uh you know uh ultimately um you know they need the funding to keep their organization alive and I I would want to are they included and if so wouldn't it make more sense to make it at least $10,000 so that that it doesn't impact funding for MBU and DPL, etc.

5:07:47

etc.

5:07:48

the the larger organizations thank you thank you I I just want to clarify for the record as a former board member and director uh and president of MBU we do not take money from anybody or we are uh they are funded.

5:08:02

I can't speak to what's going on now, but I don't believe it's changed.

5:08:05

Uh they are funded by um by membership dues, which are between 35 and I think 500 dollars, and that's it.

5:08:14

So um just wanted to point that out and clarify that record.

5:08:18

There's nothing happening um with donations to NBU from lobbyists.

5:08:23

And Mr.

5:08:23

Mayor, if if I can.

5:08:25

This wouldn't prohibit the contribution, it just would simply say if an entity is making a contribution over a thousand dollars to some other entity, it just has to be disclosed.

5:08:36

So it would still allow a contribution to a good cause, let's say um, it just discloses it for matters of transparency, and I don't have an issue with that.

5:08:50

Hello, two more speakers.

5:08:52

Oh uh Sam Merck, go ahead, please.

5:08:55

You have two minutes.

5:08:57

All right, my name is Sam Rikovsky, and I live at Five Island.

5:09:01

Um, and I just want to make the distinction between residents of the island and Bira, which was a self-appointed group, and I have not met one neighbor that has ever even heard of Bureau before any of this, much less voted for them.

5:09:19

Um so I just I want that to be very clear.

5:09:21

Thank you.

5:09:22

Our next caller, our last caller is Jessica.

5:09:25

Jessica, go ahead, please.

5:09:30

Jessica, mute yourself, state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

5:09:37

Jessica, please unmute yourself.

5:09:40

Mayor, this concludes subject.

5:09:42

Um good legislation.

5:09:44

Uh thank you.

5:09:46

And let's call the vote.

5:09:47

So it is uh uh it was motioned by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez as amended.

5:09:52

Commissioner Suarez.

5:09:54

Yes, Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

5:09:56

Yes.

5:09:57

Commissioner Dominguez.

5:09:58

Yes, happy with the amendments, absolutely.

5:10:00

Absolutely.

5:10:01

Commissioner Bott.

5:10:02

Yes, as amended.

5:10:03

Commissioner Fernandez.

5:10:06

I saw Nick go to the podium, and I just recalling the vote.

5:10:12

Okay, but okay.

5:10:12

I'm voting yes, but it seemed like Nick had a thought.

5:10:15

What is it, Nick?

5:10:16

I would no, I was I was gonna read the amendment.

5:10:19

Um directly, I think I need to.

5:10:22

We understand you need to read the end.

5:10:23

Let me take the vote.

5:10:25

I'm almost done.

5:10:29

Mayor, can I read the amendment?

5:10:30

What just can you why?

5:10:32

It's second reading.

5:10:34

So you're saying legally you need to read the amendment.

5:10:35

Yeah, oh, okay.

5:10:36

Then you just okay.

5:10:45

So the amendment would be to replace the paragraph at the top of page three uh with the following.

5:10:50

A lobbyist shall be required to disclose in writing to the city clerk if the lobbyist provides or has agreed to provide directly or indirectly consideration, whether monetary or non-monetary, valued at $1,000 or more to a neighborhood association or its designee for purposes of supporting or withholding its objection with regard to a matter before the city commission or any city board or committee.

5:11:14

Second, that's amended.

5:11:17

And the threshold, right, Nick?

5:11:20

I said the one thing.

5:11:20

Yeah, one thousand.

5:11:21

Okay.

5:11:22

So that I vote yes.

5:11:23

We have to start over, or can you?

5:11:25

If uh I could yes, just do it, make sure it's okay.

5:11:28

Commissioner Suarez, as amended with the statements made by Nick.

5:11:31

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

5:11:33

Yes.

5:11:33

Commissioner Dominguez.

5:11:34

Yes, as amended.

5:11:35

Commissioner Bott.

5:11:36

Yes.

5:11:36

Commissioner Fernandez.

5:11:37

Yes.

5:11:38

Vice Mayor Magazine.

5:11:39

Yes.

5:11:39

Mayor Minor.

5:11:40

Yes.

5:11:40

Motion carries as amended.

5:11:42

That was item R5K.

5:11:44

I had a suggestion from one of my colleagues.

5:11:45

I think it was a good one.

5:11:46

People may have been come here for Suttonic.

5:11:48

Let's do that since people have been waiting at least 30 minutes.

5:11:51

Usually we don't have too many callers or speakers in the afternoon.

5:11:54

We'll see how it goes, and then we'll take a lunch break.

5:11:56

Okay, so I'm gonna call Mary.

5:11:58

Mary, you were here for Sutton before, so come on in.

5:12:02

Please upmute yourself.

5:12:03

You have two minutes.

5:12:04

If you're here for Sutton, get ready to speak so we can all.

5:12:08

All right, thank you so much.

5:12:09

May you speak up a little bit.

5:12:10

We can't hear you.

5:12:11

Okay.

5:12:12

Uh how's that?

5:12:13

Any better?

5:12:13

Perfect.

5:12:14

All right.

5:12:15

Hey, thank you so much.

5:12:16

Mary Sandro, I'm at 7135 Collins Avenue, so North Beach.

5:12:20

Uh, very concerned about the intersection of two things.

5:12:23

Um, over development or development in general, and water quality.

5:12:28

So, you know, these beaches, oceans, canals, bays, etc.

5:12:34

You know, uh there there was a study done it recommended dredging uh here in the canal.

5:12:39

Um I may need to you know be updated.

5:12:43

There's word that that may be scrapped now uh because it may be disruptive, supposedly, or something.

5:12:49

Um I guess request of everyone, because I know how hard you work, and and honestly, I really love everybody.

5:12:58

I mean, I've had so many good experiences with all the commissioners and the mayor and Blake.

5:13:02

I want to give him a shout out.

5:13:04

Um I'd really love to see us lead on this issue.

5:13:07

This is to me a crisis.

5:13:09

Um yesterday, Mayor, you know, I was on your virtual town hall, and you mentioned this has been brewing for a while.

5:13:14

Um when things brew for a while, they really need you know, some serious like right now, what are we gonna do?

5:13:20

And um the dredging, maybe it is gonna be disruptive.

5:13:24

Yeah, just like a wound.

5:13:25

If it's infected, you have to clean it.

5:13:27

You know, and that is disruptive, and it's very painful to get out the infection.

5:13:31

Uh, but then real healing begins.

5:13:34

And so, in terms of you know, letting Mother Nature do its thing.

5:13:38

I mean, I don't know if anybody remembers COVID, but I remember the miracles we saw.

5:13:42

Like, I don't know, did anybody else agree?

5:13:44

The sky was bluer, the water was clearer, the animals came back, the fish, the birds, the butterflies.

5:13:50

I mean, you can go on and on and on, the air.

5:13:52

Um, so I think that we can make this a little bit easier, faster than we're making it out to be if there's some will to really lead here.

5:14:02

Um I love the hat, you know, the brown zone and all the uh things that people are bringing up.

5:14:09

So what I'd really like is to see some, you know, looking at 31 million for pavers.

5:14:13

Um, but thank you so much for sending on your fight to make it.

5:14:17

Thank you.

5:14:17

Thank you so much for the dredging is not being cut out.

5:14:20

The dredging is still is still part of the plan, still is still on the table.

5:14:25

It's not being considered to be chopped off from the plan.

5:14:29

If we're looking at other technologies that could be potentially implemented quicker at a quicker time frame than the drain that then the dredging, but the dredging is still part of our long-term plan uh for Parkview Island.

5:14:43

Is that correct?

5:14:44

Correct.

5:14:44

We're still evaluating the dredging while we're moving forward with many of the other things that are faster.

5:14:51

And the funding, the I think it's two million dollars for the dredging is still.

5:14:56

We still have that in the budget.

5:14:57

Correct.

5:14:58

Okay.

5:15:00

And simultaneously, we're looking at other new technologies that could potentially yield a faster, quicker solution if we're able to implement it.

5:15:09

We are looking at any and all different options because we understand the urgency and the need to find answers.

5:15:18

I would like to see both done, the dredging and the nano bubbler or whatever it is, because you know that you have a cap of sediment that has high enter cookie levels every single time it rains.

5:15:29

We're just mixing it all up again into a soup.

5:15:32

So I I agree that the dredging needs to get done, and I'll be fully supportive of that.

5:15:36

And that's what the University of Miami told us, and that's the protocol we should follow.

5:15:40

And what are we gonna hear on this this item this afternoon?

5:15:44

Hi everyone, my name is Ava Frankel.

5:15:47

I'm currently running for commissioner of Miami Beach.

5:15:50

I have a really quick question for all of you.

5:15:53

What is our number one pedestrian shopping and culture street in Miami Beach?

5:15:59

Quick.

5:16:00

Lincoln Road.

5:16:02

Lincoln Road?

5:16:03

That's the only answer.

5:16:04

Eight blocks of uninterrupted pedestrian walking.

5:16:08

And those businesses, sadly, are not doing well.

5:16:12

And it's because of our rules, and it's really sad.

5:16:16

So I was talking to some of the businesses, and I spoke to Lincoln Road Bid last week, and I learned that the restaurants on Lincoln Road are not allowed to have live music.

5:16:27

Only from a playlist, not a DJ, not a jazz band.

5:16:31

And those restaurants, Lincoln Road is supposed to be the place in Miami Beach where people go for culture.

5:16:37

I went to Mila the other night, it was great.

5:16:40

And I was thinking it would be so nice to walk out of Mila and walk to some of the restaurants on Lincoln Road, but nobody goes there.

5:16:46

Additionally, I learned that those restaurants are paying $32 per square foot of outdoor space, sitting area, and those restaurants have no security.

5:16:58

There's no permanent police foot presence on Lincoln Road.

5:17:02

Why?

5:17:03

They're paying over a million dollars to our city every single year for outdoor sitting.

5:17:09

And I've personally had an experience where I had to call the police, and one of the girls that I was with last night who I met on TikTok, she told me that she had an experience, and she had to call the police as well, because there was some homeless lady whipping her belt around and harassing people, and the police took 15 minutes to get there.

5:17:28

I think that if restaurants are paying already so high in rent, and on top of it, they're paying extra to Miami Beach for their outdoor sitting, they should be it should be a safe place for people to go.

5:17:42

So I would love to know what you guys think.

5:17:44

And if I could just thank you.

5:17:54

So I'll let uh Commissioner Fernandez has an item literally right on what you're saying.

5:17:57

Yeah, I mean, literally, last week at land use, we discussed an item that this entire city commission voted to refer to the land use committee to see how uncertain of our major commercial corridors where we're seeing our businesses needing support, allowing them to have limited uh live and entertainment um through a change of policy that we're gonna hopefully test for for one year.

5:18:22

Uh right now they can do it through a conditional use process, and we're gonna test if during this one year uh one year period we can allow live entertainment on areas like Lincoln Road that are more buffered away from the residential areas, um, so that we can help this corridor thrive.

5:18:40

Thank you.

5:18:40

I mean, we don't have state income tax, so we need our businesses to thrive.

5:18:44

Yeah, okay.

5:18:46

Thank you.

5:18:47

Go ahead, please.

5:18:56

Hello again, one to Jaminated 305 Crispy Bulletborne.

5:19:00

Um regarding the what do you want to call up a Lincoln Road or more uh lively and more music and most of more anything, it's not important at this point.

5:19:18

This day is must make it a priority.

5:19:21

I already got a little bit of news from uh Commissioner Fernandez, thank you, that uh they're doing some initiative to finally uh fix this water issue.

5:19:34

I think that the officials, the city in its totality has been negligent to still residents.

5:19:42

Most of them do not know what is going on with our waters, especially the senior communities, which everyone that is either a candidate or incumbent are looking for those votes, including myself.

5:19:57

I am a senior.

5:20:00

So we all need a lot of things in Miami Beach, but I do believe that life, health, and safety of our residents should be the top priority.

5:20:08

I don't want to hang up about 20 millions in Lincoln Road or doing this and this.

5:20:13

This is not gonna bring us anything.

5:20:15

This is gonna be worldwide.

5:20:17

Everybody's gonna know about Miami Beach waters being contaminated.

5:20:22

We have a water quality issue.

5:20:25

And what we want to do, updo Lincoln Road and updo everything else if they're not gonna be coming here.

5:20:31

Um it doesn't make any sense.

5:20:33

I asked you guys to please, and thank you, uh Commissioner uh Fernandez again for taking the initiative.

5:20:40

I asked him for a time frame.

5:20:42

He says, you know, a coup a couple of months here and there, but it must be done.

5:20:47

If this day is doesn't do it, I'm being full disclosure.

5:20:51

I'm I'm gonna call the federal government, I'm gonna call the state government, and they're gonna have to come here.

5:20:56

Durham, whoever it is to take the thing.

5:20:58

Thank you.

5:20:59

Next, please state your name, address we have two minutes.

5:21:02

Good afternoon.

5:21:04

My name is Larry Schaefer, 23381st Street, and I am organizing people opposed to ocean pollution.

5:21:11

That's Pooh.

5:21:12

We want clean water from the tap, from the bay, and in the ocean.

5:21:17

We want the city to disclose in a professional and complete manner the location, condition, and age and repair records for all of our infrastructure components, include including the tap water system, the sewage, the storm water system, so that we know what kind of risks we're taking by living here.

5:21:32

What what what are the risks?

5:21:33

Are we gonna have another exploding sewage pump?

5:21:36

I don't want to live near that.

5:21:38

I might want to move away.

5:21:40

Commissioner Bott moved away from Parkview Island, and she's totally working on this, so it's not an issue, but we we want to possibly move away from your city because of pollution.

5:21:51

So uh we also want the city to voluntarily submit to oversight from County Durham, state DEP, and federal EPA.

5:21:58

I've also brought this interesting little hat that does a dance, if I can find the button.

5:22:05

So can't touch the water.

5:22:09

So we did it, can't touch this.

5:22:18

Thank you.

5:22:24

I'm I'm participating with dance.

5:22:30

Okay.

5:22:30

Are you gonna arrest me?

5:22:35

It's a dance.

5:22:36

I'm communicating my my I want to work with the city.

5:22:40

I don't want to make it fun.

5:22:41

That's it.

5:22:42

Based on your comments, I'm gonna finish.

5:22:43

You you've cut me off.

5:22:46

Next, please.

5:22:47

Next, please.

5:22:49

Hi, Sharon Weiss, 2331st Street.

5:22:52

I called in this morning.

5:22:53

I'm here now again just to reiterate how important this matter is.

5:22:58

Um I was outside um most of the morning in my poop moji costume, sweating away, and watching the proceedings on the closed circuit TV.

5:23:07

Um I I don't doubt that lobbying is important.

5:23:12

You guys took like over an hour and a half to talk about the lobbying issue when it was in an uh unanimous vote.

5:23:18

Like everyone agreed, and you took an hour and a half.

5:23:21

With all due respect, the house is on fire, and you guys are arguing about what color to paint the walls.

5:23:26

Please, we're begging you focus on this, focus.

5:23:29

Thank you.

5:23:31

Next, please.

5:23:35

Good afternoon, Mayor and Commissioners.

5:23:37

Monique Pardopot, Miami Beach Commissioner candidate for Group 1 and Resident 4570, North Jefferson Avenue.

5:23:43

I'm here today on C7AD, the Charlie Kirk resolution.

5:23:47

I stand before you today with a very heavy heart, still grieving the horrific murder of Charlie Kirk.

5:23:53

As a Christian, as a mother, as an attorney, I am sickened not only by the loss of his life, but by what it represents.

5:24:00

Political violence is never the answer.

5:24:03

Charlie was not silenced because his ideas were weak, but because his critics could not out debate him.

5:24:09

When they could not win with words, they turned to violence.

5:24:13

That is evil, and we must never bow to it.

5:24:16

This tragedy underscores a reality that we cannot ignore.

5:24:19

Our country is being torn apart by political division.

5:24:23

Too many have forgotten that the strength of America has always been found in the marketplace of ideas where debate, not destruction, decides the day.

5:24:33

If we cannot defend freedom of speech for those we disagree with, then none of us will ever be free.

5:24:40

My faith is not a footnote to my public service.

5:24:44

It is the foundation of it.

5:24:45

And it compels me to say this very very clearly.

5:24:48

No one should ever live in fear of persecution, intimidation, or violence for simply standing firm in their convictions.

5:25:00

By defending truth without fear and by preserving the freedoms, our constitution guarantees.

5:25:04

Evil may strike, but it will never win.

5:25:06

Not as long as we remain faithful, united, and unafraid in a united boldly speaking.

5:25:52

To save myself potentially $400 plus.

5:25:55

Luckily, in my situation, my car was recovered within five minutes of a toe.

5:26:00

But that's not the case for everybody else.

5:26:02

The longer that somebody's car stays in the tow yard, the more expensive that that process is to get your car back, especially very uncomfortable process for the handicapped individuals.

5:26:12

So I'm here today to hopefully you guys all support us having proper branded signage disclosure that is very, very visible.

5:26:41

And $400 is good plus is going to just scare them away.

5:26:44

So thank you so much for your support, and I really hope we can make this a possibility.

6:13:59

Please take your seats.

6:14:01

The meeting is about to begin.

6:14:03

Remember to speak into the microphone as this meeting is being recorded for public record.

6:14:10

Please stand by.

6:14:23

Since we ran late, we did the suck neck, the open forum before we broke for lunch.

6:14:33

Let's call one of the pulled items from the consent agenda, a consent agenda C seven G seven G is appointment.

6:14:44

Amendment one to fifth and alternative approved Padel Court's redesignate parking space as garage a garage.

6:14:57

Thank you, Mr.

6:14:58

Mayor.

6:15:00

I just want to express concerns about this proposal because we're losing a significant amount of parking, and that's something that I feel that in this part of the city, we simply can't afford right now.

6:15:16

This garage, Fifth and Alton, I almost feel it's like what I would call what we know as an interceptor garage.

6:15:24

It serves such a great purpose as people are coming in to our city and trying to get to their jobs, could be where we can intercept those cars, get them to park, and then get people to their jobs.

6:15:38

And there's one thing that I've heard from our businesses is that part of the reason why they're suffering, they can't retain their workforce because parking for them is so expensive that it doesn't make sense for the workforce to work in Miami Beach.

6:15:55

And so and so they're leaving.

6:15:56

If we have extra parking spaces, if there are extra parking spaces in this garage that can be turned into more courts for sports activity, well, why not instead put those parking spaces to use for the men and the women that are the backbone of the economy of our city that support our businesses and that they're leaving our city because they can't afford parking?

6:16:25

And so I feel like this plan involves repurposing 62 parking spaces to accommodate a private sports facility.

6:16:36

I much rather see those 62 parking spaces.

6:16:39

If my vote is going to approve that, I much rather see that go to serve the needs of our economy to serve the needs of our small businesses and help the employees and make Miami Beach run, park affordably so that our businesses don't lose their employees.

6:16:58

So uh Will McDonald uh parking department, I'll speak to that.

6:17:02

So we currently right now offer uh monthly parking at a reduced rate.

6:17:08

There was an initiative that uh Commissioner Magazine uh sponsored uh that we specifically focused on South and Fifth employees, but our team went out there for more than three months uh going to businesses, hand delivering uh vouchers, um trying to pull in individuals into this garage at a reduced rate, and we received zero inquiries over the three-month period.

6:17:30

So while while I say that this garage right now in its current state is extremely underutilized, so even if we had an influx of a hundred and fifty people that instantly tomorrow said, I want to be able to use this facility to monthly park for my business, even with these courts, this garage would easily be able to absorb that and still maintain space for the retail clients that are coming there to the publics, to the um uh to the marshals, the wine, Best Buy, things of that nature.

6:18:03

So this will not have a material impact on the availability for the community.

6:18:06

Just knowing and and I appreciate everything that you're saying.

6:18:10

I've heard from so many businesses, so many businesses on Washington Avenue, so many b businesses on Ocean Drive, that this is one of their biggest challenges with their workforce until I hear that narrative change from our businesses at this key garage that is at the entrance of our city that is in one of the areas where I believe we have a parking deficit.

6:18:34

Um let me ask you something.

6:18:37

What's happening with the garage at 7th and Collins?

6:18:40

Is it Warren at one point we concerned that we were gonna lose that garage?

6:18:45

So that lease period has a sunset date.

6:18:54

I want to say it's first quarter 2026, at which point they would have to buy us out of the lease, and then they would have to repurpose those spaces.

6:19:04

We've not been contacted to be told that they were gonna buy us out, but we don't know yet.

6:19:11

We don't know yet.

6:19:12

We don't know yet.

6:19:13

How many parking spaces are there?

6:19:15

I believe there's about 600.

6:19:18

600.

6:19:19

600 parking spaces that today in South Beach were where it's one of our busiest areas and where we have a lack for parking where we may lose in the future, potentially, we don't know yet, 600 parking spaces, and here we're considering repurposing 62 into non-parking uses.

6:19:41

And so I I can't support this item.

6:19:45

I have concerns about this item.

6:19:47

I think that there is a need for these parking spaces to support the economy and the workers of our economy.

6:19:55

Commissioner magazine.

6:20:00

Well, um asking a rhetorical question, I know the answer to, but are we losing city spaces?

6:20:06

The answer is that the question is.

6:20:08

Yes and no.

6:20:08

Yes and no.

6:20:09

Um, so we are though the garage operates as one entity.

6:20:14

We are obviously a minority uh minority stakeholder in this, but the the garage operates as an entity where there is a revenue split, there are um uh the expenses are split.

6:20:25

So when you pull into that garage, uh nobody asks why you are there.

6:20:30

We it is a public use garage, it will stay a public use garage.

6:20:33

I absolutely understand um the concerns of the the commission as far as uh reducing the amount of parking inventory in the city as the parking director.

6:20:41

I love parking inventory.

6:20:43

Um but in this one particular space, uh if if if if anyone in the commission knows any business owners that are having a hard time finding uh monthly parking for their employees at a reduced rate, have them reach out to me because we will link them up with Eaton's and we will get them a space.

6:20:59

So we did this for months.

6:21:01

I hosted in-person meetings for every restaurant south of Fifth.

6:21:05

We had all the managers.

6:21:07

I live right above that.

6:21:08

I overlooked that balcony, I've overlooked that for 10 years.

6:21:12

I've seen people on the roof during one occasion, and that's when during COVID when people would do the wheelies and the spin-outs and things like that.

6:21:22

Absent that the entire roof is never ever had a single car parked on it or activated.

6:21:27

Um it's unsightly.

6:21:29

And this is a great health and wellness activation.

6:21:32

Yes, I'm a fan of paddle, but this is a great activation for that area.

6:21:36

But point being, how many parking spaces in the in the garage in total?

6:21:41

A thousand.

6:21:42

1,085.

6:21:43

1,085.

6:21:45

And how many do we?

6:21:47

We own 500.

6:21:49

Yep.

6:21:49

And they have 585.

6:21:51

And even after this, the amount of spaces we own does not change.

6:21:54

Does not change.

6:21:55

So when I ask if we're losing parking as the city, the answer is not yes and no.

6:22:00

The answer is no.

6:22:02

Right?

6:22:02

We are maintaining every single spot that we have.

6:22:06

We are just moving where we have our spots to an actual what I was told is a better, more prime location.

6:22:14

Correct?

6:22:15

Correct.

6:22:16

Any time, so we're losing spaces that are dedicated to the roof to actually covered parking.

6:22:21

So obviously, covered parking is more coveted than open parking.

6:22:25

Yeah.

6:22:25

That is correct.

6:22:26

How I see this is this is going to be an activation the entire community uses.

6:22:32

And what is the general utilization of that garage in the 50s or 60s, right?

6:22:38

Or perhaps less.

6:22:40

Yeah, I it I would say it depends.

6:22:43

Obviously, you have an influx on the weekends when you have your your high retail events.

6:22:46

Um, but on a on a day-to-day basis, 50% would be generous.

6:22:51

So I mean, we have hundreds of spots to work with, literally hundreds of spots.

6:22:57

Um so I do think that this is great for the community.

6:23:01

Um I have a different urban planning view.

6:23:04

I think if we want to get away from traffic and things like that, it's through incentives.

6:23:09

And listen, it it is hard politically because everybody loves parking.

6:23:14

They love to just drive up, but that is the urban planning way of the future.

6:23:20

Is uh, you know, we need to put our money where our mouth is when it comes to emissions, climate change, and things like that.

6:23:26

But from my standpoint, the city is not giving up any spots.

6:23:29

This is literally to approve moving our spots.

6:23:32

Is that correct?

6:23:33

Right.

6:23:33

That is correct.

6:23:34

There's a swap of spaces.

6:23:35

So the spaces of the city owns on the rooftop, which is a seventh floor, is going to be swapped with Eden spaces on the sixth floor.

6:23:42

So it's important also to know, Commissioner, based on what you were just saying, that that top level was used for donuts for many years, and the community around was driving donuts, not driving, yeah, not eating donuts.

6:23:55

Uh so Eden's actually roped off access to that top level, which has 136 spaces.

6:24:01

Uh, and the impact to the garage was was not felt.

6:24:05

Uh it's a garage that loses, I think about $300,000 a year.

6:24:09

This is an opportunity to bring community in with one of our assets and to make use of an incredible uh area that uh has been underutilized.

6:24:19

Uh and I think it's gonna be I just think this will be a great sports and recreation area for that surrounding community, the kids from South Point Elementary, West Avenue.

6:24:29

It'll be great amenity.

6:24:30

And I'd be right there with you if we're you know uh if it was had a lot of parking demand, but there's just not.

6:24:39

And point being the city doesn't lose a single spot, right?

6:24:42

So I don't want to get into the business of dictating to a private entity what they can do and not do with their uh with their private property.

6:24:51

Commissioner Dominguez, Commissioner Suarez, and then Commissioner Rosing Gonzalez.

6:24:55

Uh during my agenda briefing, I want to make sure that I heard the numbers correctly.

6:25:00

It's 31 spaces from the roof that will go to a lower floor.

6:25:03

So it's just retailing.

6:25:05

The location.

6:25:12

And I agree with Commissioner Magazine.

6:25:14

I think this is a good urban planning vision, something that would be popular for the community.

6:25:19

I'm excited about it.

6:25:20

In total, the top level, that seventh floor is 136 spaces.

6:25:24

So 62 of them.

6:25:26

200.

6:25:27

Good afternoon.

6:25:27

Desolator is from the city attorney's office.

6:25:30

The top space has about uh 280 spaces, and this project will take up about 136.

6:25:37

Um it's underutilized, so it it's not gonna be a affecting the garage use, however, we want it to be factually correct because this information came out after the memo went up.

6:25:48

And the 31 spaces that are city owned, the revenue share doesn't change.

6:25:52

That's correct.

6:25:53

The numbers don't change, it's just a matter of protecting the city from tax liability so that the folio for the developer remains units that are taxable, and the folio for the city will be non-taxable.

6:26:06

Thank you.

6:26:06

You're welcome.

6:26:08

Yeah, um I'm gonna just out for my support for Commissioner Magazine.

6:26:12

You know, we do a lot of talk about being a fitness-oriented city.

6:26:17

This ties directly into that.

6:26:19

I mean, if we're not losing any sort of revenue from this from a city perspective, and you guys have just said that you rope off the rooftop to prevent you know wheelies and uh and and car donuts.

6:26:32

What a great use where you know, across the street, there's South Point Elementary and to the north is Flamingo Park.

6:26:40

So, what a great way to really bring the community together and have a fitness-oriented space that people can walk to.

6:26:49

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

6:26:52

Were any of the retailers or current tenants concerned?

6:26:55

I mean, I know it's Eden's property, but is public's okay.

6:26:57

I just don't want to see a time where because we took the spaces away because people are going to paddle that there's some sort of an issue.

6:27:08

Introduce yourself.

6:27:09

My name is Alexander Campbell.

6:27:11

I work with Eden's.

6:27:12

Um, and to answer your question, yes, we have been working with the tenants, uh specifically publics, and are finalizing a waiver with them right now to permit this on the rooftop.

6:27:21

So they're in support of it.

6:27:24

Okay, I'm not looking I'm I'm not against it.

6:27:27

I think uh that area could probably use an activation.

6:27:30

I think it's gonna bring a lot of jobs, like it potentially has a restaurant, right?

6:27:34

It has like I think food and verified in it.

6:27:37

Like a 2,000 square foot concession, 2,000 square foot structure.

6:27:40

So I think it will get people to go to that or walk to that area that normally might not.

6:27:46

So I don't really see it being a problem.

6:27:49

I was concerned, Commissioner Fernandes, because I thought, you know, if it's a huge facility and then you have a hundred people parking to run that facility between employees and attendees, then you're losing an additional hundred spaces.

6:27:59

I mean, how how many spaces do you think how many parts is it?

6:28:05

10 Padel courts.

6:28:07

10 10 courts.

6:28:08

Okay, so it's how high brow you want to be.

6:28:10

So let's say that they take up an additional 30 or 40 spaces, there's still enough spaces for all of the businesses that are there, correct?

6:28:16

There will be.

6:28:17

It's a four to one thousand ratio, but for the purposes of this amendment, this would not allow them to increase the courts.

6:28:25

It's still restricted to the 45,000 square feet or so that take up about 50% of the rooftop of the garage.

6:28:32

Okay.

6:28:32

Um I'm okay with that.

6:28:33

Commissioner Magazine, you're becoming the rooftop pedale to a room.

6:28:37

No, this wasn't my this wasn't my item.

6:28:39

No, this wasn't my item.

6:28:40

Uh I just I love the idea of activating rooftops where we have nothing and you know, putting something there.

6:28:47

And if the I didn't realize the area was roped off, uh, that was not explained to me in my briefing that the area is closed.

6:28:54

So if that's the case, uh then you know, we have parking spaces here that we can't use now because it's roped off, and they're giving us now those parking spaces and other floors where they can be more accessible to the public, then then that uh makes makes sense.

6:29:10

I am cautious of the fact that you know, I'm concerned that this could create competition to what we're trying to do on Lincoln Road as an economic engine and to inject uh energy, but um, but again, this is not our property.

6:29:27

Uh so for as long as we're getting better parking spaces that are not closed off to the public, and then in that case, I'm supportive of it.

6:29:34

I also would tell you that it really is unsightly looking when you look down on it from one of the towers nearby, it's really unattractive.

6:29:41

So this might even improve people's views.

6:29:43

Okay, big time.

6:29:45

And what I'll ask from you and your team, I'm sure the panel operators will push for it, is just a continued help uh in the perimeter of that public area.

6:29:54

You've done a lot of work in the past couple of years.

6:29:56

It's night and day compared to what it was.

6:30:00

But I think what you see from us up here is a demand for excellence.

6:30:03

So helping out with some of the vagrancy and cleanliness, pressure washing, um, and things like that.

6:30:09

When uh do you think uh Commissioner Fernandez is going to be teeing off the first serve there?

6:30:15

So we still gotta get through the permitting process and then probably with hopefully early 2026.

6:30:23

This is the early 2026.

6:30:25

It really depends on the program.

6:30:28

Oh well, okay.

6:30:32

Commissioner Bot.

6:30:33

Commissioner Bach.

6:30:34

Um I'm super excited about this as we try to move towards a blue zones.

6:30:40

Living well longer kind of a city.

6:30:43

Um, I think the more opportunities residents have to engage in healthy pursuits, whether it's in the heart of South Beach or Lincoln Road or up in North Beach, all of the above, the more the merry, I think rising tide floats all boots.

6:30:55

Um I will caution, not caution, we'll ask the operator to um make sure that I don't know what the hours of operation will be, but if they're presumably going to go till 10 or something like that, um, that the sound of play is mitigated.

6:31:10

So, you know, when you get above certain levels, sound travels more easily, and we don't want to have neighbors in adjoining and in residential towers losing their minds hearing the only two towers that would the eye come on the only two towers that it would affect would be the icon or five park.

6:31:35

And I got letters from both that they're so excited to have access to the courts and they have the unsightliness of the parking that they're gonna look at a beautiful facility.

6:31:45

No, and that's that's great, and I'm I'm I'm glad you had their support before you got to this point, but once it becomes uh a viable concern, let's just keep an eye on the noise so that if it is louder than intended or if it travels differently than we anticipated, that nobody's surprised when somebody comes back to you to ask to mitigate it.

6:32:06

I got you.

6:32:06

Okay.

6:32:06

Can you state your name for the record?

6:32:08

Your name.

6:32:09

Uh Ian Bihar.

6:32:10

Thank you.

6:32:11

I'll move the item.

6:32:12

I'll second.

6:32:12

Let's call the vote.

6:32:14

Motion by Commissioner.

6:32:15

Thank you, guys.

6:32:16

Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Bott.

6:32:18

All in favor of C7G.

6:32:19

Please say aye.

6:32:20

Aye.

6:32:20

Anyone opposed?

6:32:21

Hearing none, the items approved 70 C7G.

6:32:25

R9AD, uh, the water quality is an addendum item.

6:32:28

I assume no objections to calling this before 5 o'clock.

6:32:31

Okay, let's call R9AD.

6:32:33

R9AD discuss take action, land use sustainability committee motion, North Beach Infrastructure and Water Quality Sampling.

6:32:50

Commissioner Fernandez.

6:32:52

Sponsored by Commissioner Bott and Suarez.

6:32:57

Thank you, Mr.

6:32:57

Mayor.

6:32:58

And I and I think I mean this is not my item, this is the commission.

6:33:01

We all together engaged in operation clean water because we all understand the urgency of restoring the water quality in the Parkview Canal.

6:33:10

It's not just me, it's it's all of us.

6:33:12

And we had uh thorough discussion during during land use.

6:33:17

I think one of the things that came up during land use that I will repeat today, how critically important it is to get the surety to make sure that we know with every certainty possible whether or not there is an issue with a sanitary sewer sewer pump pump station 23.

6:33:38

And it's why we made a motion asking for there to be an independent third-party review to to just make sure that whether there is any leaking or not at this pump station because of its proximity to the Parkview Canal.

6:33:54

It is literally a waterfront pump station.

6:33:58

And while we have studies that tell us that it's not coming from there to the layperson, it's just common sense.

6:34:06

If you have an issue of this type of bacteria, well, it only makes sense that it be emanating from this sanitary sewer pump station that happens to be right next to the contaminated waters.

6:34:18

And so, as I mentioned that committee, and I'll mention again today.

6:34:22

If there is an issue with a pump station, less sound of the alarm.

6:34:27

It's not about pointing fingers, and it's not about asking why didn't we figure it out before it's about moving forward and solving the issue as why we want a third-party review as being proposed here, um different from the previous companies to to see the conditions of pump station 23.

6:34:49

The other issue that we're addressing here is that for five years we've had this issue with the water quality up at the park view canal.

6:35:00

But we have only maintained monthly testings of the water, which is just the normal testings we do throughout the city.

6:35:06

We need to be on top on top of that water quality.

6:35:10

We need to know what's the impact of storms when it rains.

6:35:14

Does the levels of the bacteria go up when it rains?

6:35:18

Does it go down during during the dry periods?

6:35:22

We need to have that more regular data, not just for us for our purposes of trying to you know find solutions, but also for the benefit of the public.

6:35:33

The public deserves the transparency of knowing what is happening with the water quality.

6:35:38

And they deserve for us to be out there on a month on a weekly basis more frequently than what we're doing now, doing that water quality sampling.

6:35:48

And then the other thing that I believe that is very important that this is looking at, in addition to the dredging, which we are committed to advancing on, is looking at nano bubble technology.

6:36:02

Technology that's been used in other parts of the state of Florida, and that in fact has been used globally, but has never been used in Miami Dade County to address the issue of bike of bacteria.

6:36:15

And in essence, putting it in the in the most layman's way possible.

6:36:21

It's a pump.

6:36:22

It's a pump that sucks the water out of the canal.

6:36:25

It processes to dissolve gas, dissolve gas, and inject oxygen into it to kill the bacteria, to put the water back into the canal and to make the water flow and to hopefully make it healthy again.

6:36:44

Amy, uh our chief resiliency officer, if we move forward with technology like this, first and foremost, has Durham told us that they're willing to enable enable us the opportunity to consider this technology?

6:36:57

Um yes, Commissioner Amy Knowles, Chief Resilience Officer.

6:37:00

We did meet with the permitting team at Durham and they provided us a pathway.

6:37:05

Uh the good thing is a lot of the tests that we did for dredging that would be required are the same type of tests that are also needed for this, and we would submit a class two permit.

6:37:15

We'd have to go to other regulatory agencies as well.

6:37:18

This is a new technology, um, but it's not foreign, it's used in aquariums, it's used in all sorts of different settings across the world, and it's really speeding up those natural processes, and they're just little tiny bubbles that are about uh two thousandths of the size of a piece of salt, actually.

6:37:33

And it helps clean the water by promoting the breakdown of microbe contaminants.

6:37:39

Right.

6:37:39

So it can use all it helps with all sorts of issues.

6:37:42

Um, there's even cities in California that have used it to address the ash after wildfires, if you will.

6:37:47

And there's a city that used it to handle a big spill in sanitizer, hand sanitizer.

6:37:52

So it's helpful in all sorts of situations.

6:37:55

And if we were to use this technology, if Durm were to permit, and again, the the technology has been used successfully in other parts of Florida, from the point of implementation of the technology, how quickly could one expect uh to start seeing water quality results.

6:38:15

So the the firm expects we would see initial results in one to two months and much more substantial results in three to four months.

6:38:21

Um it's going to be a bit of um you know testing it out based on the amount of water in the canal, they expect to be turning the water over uh weekly, and there's gonna be a lot of very careful monitoring water quality plan has to be submitted as part of that as well, as part of the permit requirements.

6:38:38

Are there any environmental impacts uh to any of the other resources uh uh in the Parkview Canal?

6:38:46

No, essentially there's not.

6:38:48

Um, there's not a lot of benthic resources in the canal to to start with, um, so there's no uh impacts, there's just a small tube that will be going through the mangroves, and the the um the machinery itself will be housed in the public works area, so it'll be very safe, it'll be secure, and uh it's also pretty quiet at about 60 decibels.

6:39:08

And Mr.

6:39:09

Manager, um how long do we feel the permitting processes for this could take being the first time going through the permitting process?

6:39:22

I don't know that I would want to be quoted on a number, but I think we're hopeful that in three to six months we could have a permit, if not sooner.

6:39:34

Yes, and that that is the proposal that we that we received um you know from one of our consultants that they were shooting for six months to get the permitting done.

6:39:43

But that does depend on the state agencies as well.

6:39:46

And have we completed any of the necessary so we know the Durham is gonna obviously require certain certain studies and certain type of paperwork.

6:39:56

Have we completed has our consultant completed any of this paperwork already?

6:40:01

Well, what they've done are the studies that are going to be required.

6:40:04

We will have to go ahead and enact a procurement with them to get them going on the actual permitting process.

6:40:10

But we have the studies.

6:40:13

Okay.

6:40:14

All right.

6:40:15

You know, clearly these actions are intended to enhance the water quality.

6:40:19

And I think again, this has been a priority of this unified commission to address these issues.

6:40:26

This is short-term quick solutions that you know if at this point it feels like it would be at Durham's speed if we give the green light at this commission.

6:40:37

Because from there, it seems from what you're telling us and from the experience of this type of technology that it could be a quick return on the improvements on water quality.

6:40:48

That's correct.

6:40:48

That's a that's exactly what we're hearing in our research shows.

6:40:51

Okay.

6:40:52

Thank you, Mr.

6:40:53

Mayor.

6:40:54

Mr.

6:40:54

Advisory?

6:40:55

Yes.

6:40:55

Commissioner Bot and Commission.

6:40:58

So Commissioner Fernandez, thank you for leading the charge on this.

6:41:03

It's uh, as everybody knows, an issue that's near and dear to my heart.

6:41:07

Um, there's a lot of misinformation out in the community um that is detrimental to our collective efforts, and I I find that to be really frustrating.

6:41:19

Um, you know, if you watched land use committee last week and the ones prior, um there is no lack of heat and passion among the elected and and staff to to get this um problem resolved and you guys hear it from us on a regular basis.

6:41:37

Um but somehow still in the community there seems to be this notion that we're you know just twiddling our thumbs waiting for the the thing to get better on its own, which is not the case.

6:41:47

I will differentiate that from where we were five years ago when I raised the alarm to the staff at the time who told us it was a non-issue.

6:41:55

And I think that was a real um disservice to the community.

6:42:03

But since um Commissioner Fernandez was elected, um there has been a huge amount of of pressure brought to bear on on staff to get this going.

6:42:13

I think if I recall correctly, there's 18 million dollars or so going to water quality issues in North Beach.

6:42:20

Um you know, that there's an uh not just Parkview Island water, but but water in general in North Beach.

6:42:28

Um prior to my arrival on the commission, there had never been an aqua infrastructure um holistic study done of all of North Beach.

6:42:37

Um, and you know, some colleagues thought that it was a waste, but you know, North Beach is where the bulk of the development is happening in the next five to seven years.

6:42:45

We've already seen one big building go up, and um I you know, happily, you know, if the results come back and say, hey, we actually had all this information correct, well that's great, but I don't suspect that's actually what's gonna happen.

6:42:57

And so to that end, um, one of the items, and I'm bringing it up here because it's it's part of this whole information or lack thereof of the Parkview Island water quality issue, but the efforts that this administration, this commission is undertaking, and the money that's being put behind it, um, is to have you guys issue a letter to commission, which then will get disseminated out to the community, which uh identifies even in more detail than you are doing with the Parkview Island water issue, which is a new innovation, a new evolution of communicating, um, which is very useful for those who receive it.

6:43:32

Not everybody receives it, and so I forwarded out to everybody who has ever asked me a question about about that, but um doing it in LTC and then commuting it out to the public about the overall water quality in the city in in what our sampling efforts are, helping people understand that you know putting this ended, but it's a fluid circumstance, right?

6:43:52

If you've got lousy testing on the beach at 73rd Street, it you know that might clear up, but then it moves down to 53rd Street, depending on what's going on with the currents and the weather, and you know, this isn't something that we can like desktop and put in a in a trash bag and get rid of.

6:44:07

This is a flowing fluid interconnected set of issues, and there are a lot of causes that are contributing to it.

6:44:15

So I am highlighting this so that residents who are listening, those who are here, those who are listening, those who might hear about it after the fact, know to look out for this communication.

6:44:27

Um the the Harview Island uh communication goes out every two weeks, I think, to residents.

6:44:33

Um, and then there's gonna be this letter to commission and the the resident communication within the next week or two after this meeting.

6:44:40

Um look for that information.

6:44:42

It is thorough, it is robust, it is comprehensive.

6:44:46

Um, and I really hope that the mischaracterization of what has been going on in the last two years can be um used to more purposeful um outcomes.

6:45:00

You know, I think that major frustration was warranted when we on Parkview Island were told it's your dogs, you know, it was not de los perros, and we didn't have 8,000 dogs living on Parkview Island.

6:45:12

So, you know, that we are currently collectively dealing with the missteps of folks five years ago, right?

6:45:20

So, but the fact is we have that out in the community.

6:45:23

So I want to make sure that we are undoing the missteps and communicating respectfully and thoroughly and continually with the community because you know, for some people, the last they heard was it's your dogs, and they sort of checked out of the process.

6:45:37

So I just wanted to highlight that for everybody who's paying attention to this, and um, I'm eager to see that when you have bandwidth to get it and get it going.

6:45:46

Thank you.

6:45:46

Commissioner Dominguez.

6:45:48

Thank you.

6:45:49

Um, and I really appreciated getting the update when I had my briefing and getting the explanation on the judging that will be happening in addition to the nanobubbles, which I really appreciate.

6:46:00

And apologies if you've already said this, but um I'll mention it again so that the community is aware.

6:46:07

So we're having issues in Parkview, but during my briefing, I also expressed concerns on what I saw posted on social media, which was our beaches were having issues as well.

6:46:17

And the answer was they're not looking at the data from us a lab with protocols or um can you expand on that and where to look for the data, which was the Department of Health, Healthy Beaches.

6:46:32

Sure.

6:46:33

Um, and and thank you for bringing that up.

6:46:35

You know, there are several different um sources and purposes of water quality sampling.

6:46:39

Our beaches have excellent water quality.

6:46:42

We have only had one water quality advisory this year to date, and we rely on the Department of Health, Healthy Beaches program.

6:46:49

So they do statewide testing of beaches, they follow very specific protocols.

6:46:54

Um we went from six uh alerts in 2022 down to four in 2023.

6:47:01

Um, and to three and 24 and just one this year.

6:47:05

So I think that's important because they are out there every week.

6:47:08

They're they're doing sampling in a very specific manner, and those are the alerts when you see the flags that are flying, you know, at the beach, or we issue an alert, that's what that is for.

6:47:18

So that is one type of sampling, and that limit is set because there's a flushing on the beaches that um really helps with any kind of pollution and just water circulation, and so there's a very strict standard that we are also as a city trying to apply to a canal.

6:47:33

And canals in Biscayne Bay, unfortunately have much more degraded water quality in general than the beach, and that is just a function of of water, it is function of circulation systems, and it is unfortunate, but it's something that it's not only you know, Miami Dade County, it's Monroe, it's Broward, it's it's all over Florida.

6:47:51

So we're trying really hard to improve a canal, and uh we're working really hard on it, and we've seen impressive improvements for Parkview, but it is still hard to get it to that beach quality bathing standard.

6:48:02

Thank you.

6:48:06

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

6:48:10

So thank you, Commissioner Fernandez.

6:48:13

Um, I love this item.

6:48:14

I love the idea of turning Parkview into an aquarium per se with the nano bubble.

6:48:19

I think that's good.

6:48:21

Once we do that, we can any place else we realize that we have an issue.

6:48:25

All right, um, here's I I in respect to the testing.

6:48:29

It's not that I I don't know enough, but I do question some of what you just said, only because of the fact that speaking to volunteer water quality testers who are testing these certain areas all the time, they're telling me something very different, especially uh where 73rd Street is concerned, and a lot of people they've actually gone out there and looked, and there's some sort of pipe or something, but I don't know.

6:48:55

That's why I wanted the UM to study it.

6:48:58

But I do think that more testing more often is the solution.

6:49:04

I would encourage a third party that has like nonprofit not to, you know, look, we're already paying surf writer the 10 10,000 dollars, and um and the surf writer did not ask me to say anything at all.

6:49:14

I haven't even spoken to them about that.

6:49:16

This nor am I promoting it in any way, but for very cheaply, you have a volunteer group of Miami Beach residents that are really good at testing water quality that have a lot of experience testing our water qual water quality, and I think that their data, if you see it so precise the way that they're recording it, and the the the manner I would encourage you, Commissioner Fernandez to go and look at their lab.

6:49:39

I would like a third party to uh to to do these to do the samplings in these certain areas, especially where we know uh where the pollution is, certification, no certification.

6:49:50

The only reason they don't have the certification right now is because they need a lab with the sink in it that we were supposed to provide them at that um what is the house?

6:50:00

What are we calling that house on 76th Street?

6:50:01

We call it the Betsy Perez house, but okay, perpetuity.

6:50:06

We'll call it the Betsy Press House.

6:50:08

They were supposed to get that space, that space has they've been waiting to get that space for a year, but I find them to be incredibly like when you see their operation, they're reliable, they're independent.

6:50:20

They they're not motivated by anything except for showing us what's really happening with our water.

6:50:24

So I would like to consider working with them.

6:50:27

So if if I may, Mr.

6:50:29

Mayor, I'll just say um I'm very familiar with the process that Miami Dade County employees uh for testing.

6:50:36

They've been doing it for more than 40 years.

6:50:38

I trust their independence.

6:50:41

You see it in the Biscayne Bay task force report where they've highlighted, you know, the very serious water quality concerns from nutrient pollution in the Biscayne Bay Aquatic Preserve.

6:50:56

Miami Dade County has been very transparent, very transparent in using their scientific resources to bring to light the seriousness of contamination and water quality issues.

6:51:11

And so I want to make sure that it is indeed a third party with the right protocols.

6:51:17

I think Miami Dade County has shown that they follow all the proper state and national standards for for water quality testing.

6:51:27

They've been doing it throughout the region for 40 years, I think.

6:51:32

Yes, Commissioner, and actually that's who that's the same contract we utilize for our water quality testing throughout the city.

6:51:38

So we actually piggyback on the county, so it's the same third party that is a nationally certified lab with nationally certified testing protocols.

6:51:47

So we already utilize that.

6:51:49

And I and I know that I I trust your results because I know that when I worked at the county and you know, we worked on the uh Biscayne Bay Task Force and those recommendations uh from the Biscayne Bay Task Force, these were independent.

6:52:05

These were truly scientific, scientific results that were not politically skewed.

6:52:11

No, but where you were where there were transparent reportings, and if there was a problem with the water quality, they would sound the alarm and they would you know raise a red flag and say there is an issue with the water quality.

6:52:24

And so I trust the the independence of Miami Dade County.

6:52:27

Well, wait, let me just let me let me just respond to that.

6:52:30

I I completely trust the results that they give.

6:52:33

I just think that one of the reasons why we never have the alerts is because they're not testing enough and they're not testing enough sites often enough.

6:52:41

It's not a question of their data being unreliable.

6:52:44

I don't think so.

6:52:44

I think whatever they post and whatever they test, it's completely 100% reliable.

6:52:48

I think it's a question of where are they testing, how often are they testing.

6:52:53

Um, and you're saying that they test the beach weekly, but how many sites along the beach are they testing weekly?

6:52:58

And I think that's the question because you have one independent organization saying, hey, we're finding bad water all the time at 73rd Street, and you said we only had one alert, so there has to be some discrepancy somewhere.

6:53:09

And I'd like to figure out what that is.

6:53:11

And we're trying to see if that contract that we have with Miami Dade County can be accessed for weekly testing.

6:53:18

This item is focused on the Park View Canal.

6:53:21

Uh, and we're looking at the five locations in the Park View Canal to see if we can expand this contract that we have with Miami Dade County to go from monthly testing to towards towards weekly testing.

6:53:34

The beaches, that's a whole different issue because now you're talking about a wider thing.

6:53:38

But our environmental emergency for the past five years with the elevated levels of entrococide exceeding the seven the 70 MPNs for healthy swimming, has been Park View Canal.

6:53:51

Those residents abutting that canal, their quality of life is suffering.

6:53:55

They can't access the water.

6:53:57

That is the focus of this emergency.

6:53:59

This is why we're looking at expanding this contract with the five locations for weekly testing as opposed to the monthly testing.

6:54:06

I I don't want to commingle that with the beaches because we have at this location.

6:54:14

Has it ever tested at a normal level in the past year?

6:54:17

It hasn't.

6:54:18

Park view?

6:54:19

Yes.

6:54:19

Um, I I believe it has, and it's actually had, you know, we were just looking at some numbers.

6:54:23

It's had dramatic improvements over the last five years.

6:54:26

Again, we have a very, very high standard in trying to get it to beach bathing standards for a canal.

6:54:32

So we've seen on average the improvement is about, I think it's 92% in the last five years in the average annual uh levels for park view.

6:54:41

And when we look at the median levels, it's a 72% improvement in the average median values.

6:54:47

So we've seen a huge improvement in five years.

6:54:49

We're just but that does not undo the fact you know there are improvements, but this but the canal still has fecal indicator bacteria.

6:54:57

Correct.

6:54:57

Concentrations that exceed the healthy 70 MPN by multiples.

6:55:02

And so we've seen improvements, but we still have a serious problem, which is why we want to proceed with all of these items that we collectively sent out of the land use committee.

6:55:13

And if I may, through the mayor, I just want to remind everybody that by the end of this month we will be done with the lining at Biscayne Beach Elementary, the laterals, where we were seeing enter cocci levels that were in the tens of thousands next to the outfall adjacent to the elementary school.

6:55:32

That to me is one that is very indicative of potentially wastewater discharge.

6:55:40

Most of these levels in the you know 100 MPN range are much more indicative of just more naturally occurring enter accoci that may not be specifically related to a wastewater discharge.

6:56:03

Amy, if you could just um address the beach testing, the beach water and uh what the results have shown uh this year and also past years.

6:56:13

Sure.

6:56:13

And we we actually put them on a slide for you so you can see per year, and this evaluate this information is also um available online at the FGOH, but it just very specifically shows for this year.

6:56:24

PJ wants to bring that up.

6:56:26

Thank you.

6:56:27

Um you can see the different uh locations and the dates each year that we have seen advisories from FDOH.

6:56:36

So this is the authority, they are an accredited lab.

6:56:39

They're using you know staff that is trained to do proper sampling procedures.

6:56:44

But we've gone from six in 2022, and you know, amazingly, we're at one for this year, which is which is very positive.

6:56:51

And this is a you know a statewide agency.

6:56:53

Um, and they were they were really developed this program to address concerns about beaches and to advise people.

6:56:58

So this is our our source.

6:57:00

They go out every single Monday.

6:57:02

If they have um a hit where it's above 70, they go out again the next day and they sample again.

6:57:08

Often there's not another alert because it was just in terracci that maybe someone took their dog to the beach and the the water flushed in and flushed out.

6:57:16

Maybe it has to do with some sort of water circulation standard.

6:57:19

Something happens.

6:57:20

Um, but unless they get two in a row, they don't they don't call an alert.

6:57:24

So we've really only had a few of these in the last few years.

6:57:29

Thank you, Amy.

6:57:30

Uh Commissioner Bottton.

6:57:31

So um looking at that slide, it was really interesting to note that every year, except for this one, 73rd Street and for two years, 79th Street were hot spots.

6:57:41

So I I want to make sure that we are looking as we clean up successfully Parkview Island, hopefully that would have a beneficial um effect on 73rd Street.

6:57:52

Um and 79th Street, um, but particularly 73rd Street.

6:57:57

And as we start excavating 72nd Street for the complex, the um community complex, you know, we're gonna need to be mitigating like you know, to the nth degree to the highest platinum level of mitigation because it's already such a fragile and um precarious ecosystem as we're seeing that you know um we can't sort of rein it back into control, our benchmark is you know off the charts.

6:58:25

So um, you know, I I once we resolve this, it's not going to be a done deal, right?

6:58:31

It's it's going to be something we need to be looking at very clearly because historically for too many years, and I I don't know what the data that shows before that that slide, so it does go back 10 years at 73rd Street has always been a hot spot.

6:58:43

Is it the last you know 50 years?

6:58:45

I don't know how how long they've been testing, but there is something amiss in the system.

6:58:51

If you know, for years and years, 73rd Street is always the source of problems.

6:58:57

So I don't want to conflate the issues, but I just want to sort of seed this notion that we need to really keep an eye on it as we fix Parkview, identify, you know, ameliorate the the school playground, um, do the aqua infrastructure study, do the 72nd Street complex.

6:59:15

Like I don't want us to undo the good work that will be completed eventually, hopefully in our lifetimes.

6:59:21

Hopefully.

6:59:21

Um, you know, and and just to set ourselves back.

6:59:24

I and and to your point, I mean I just and through the mayor, if I may.

6:59:28

Um, you know, when we talk about 73rd Street, we've got to realize 73rd Street for those that don't know, that's the area by where Parkview Canal it's at.

6:59:36

That's why I'm raising it.

6:59:37

And you know, it's one of these urban waterways that we know is susceptible to, and I just totally mispronounced that word, susceptible uh to to pollution.

6:59:51

Clearly, we know one of the big issues with it, besides infrastructure issues, besides possibly the pump, is when this was stretched, it was stretched at an angle.

7:00:03

It's an angled canal within the Tantum waterway, which makes flushing of the canal nearly impossible for it to naturally happen, which makes it impossible for the pollutants to be diluted naturally, which is why all of these efforts that we're looking at is so important.

7:00:22

The angle, the shape of the canal, I think can point to the fact why is it that we have recurrently be been having this issue?

7:00:29

Why?

7:00:30

Because the shape of it does not allow for the flow of the water for the flushing of the pollutants.

7:00:36

Hopefully, technology, like the nano technology, in addition to the dredging, the dredging is an issue.

7:00:42

We do have pollution that's there that needs to be cleaned up, and the heat combined with that pollution allows for just the multiplication of the bacteria.

7:00:55

Um the technology can help flush this, can help improve this water quality.

7:01:02

Commissioner Bott.

7:01:03

I mean, this is um what you said just sparked a question.

7:01:07

So when you look at the map of Parkview Island and look at the canal, it's a man-made situation, 1956.

7:01:12

All the townhouses were built.

7:01:14

Um and there is literally at least one right angle that I can think of.

7:01:18

There might be two.

7:01:19

After we sort this out, or maybe concurrently, is there an opportunity to um change the angle, like soften the angle so there's a continuous flow and there's not this right angle of who knows what gets caught in there?

7:01:34

Um if we're already, you know, messing around with dredging and stuff.

7:01:39

Is that would that help?

7:01:40

Could it help?

7:01:41

Is it a possibility to to reshape the canal to improve flow?

7:01:45

I don't expect you to answer here now because it's you know, I'm sure there's science behind that, but something to contemplate.

7:01:51

We can look into that.

7:01:53

Um obviously there's there's a few permitting challenges that go with expanding as well as you know, there's private property owners that probably have some questions about what it would look like if we were to dredge into their land.

7:02:11

So we just need to make sure that we would contemplate all of those.

7:02:14

Yeah, I think I think if I'm thinking about it correctly, it might actually impact city owned land.

7:02:19

Like that might be one of the corners that you could like let's just look at it and see if it's a thing that even if it's regardless of whether or not it's possible.

7:02:28

If it were, can could it help?

7:02:29

And if it could help, how would it be possible?

7:02:33

Okay, all right.

7:02:36

I move the item.

7:02:38

Second.

7:02:41

Yeah, all right.

7:02:43

So motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Bach.

7:02:47

Uh R9AD, it was a discussion item, so the motion is to do what the Commissioner Fernandez.

7:02:55

Yes.

7:02:56

Yeah, we've directed to it was a discussion item.

7:02:59

What is the motion?

7:03:00

Is it to Oh so the motion would be to move forward with authorizing the city manager uh to conduct an independent third-party review of the sanitary sewer pump at station uh 23, authorize uh and fund a weekly water uh testing in the Parkview Canal, expedite the comprehensive infrastructure study for uh for for North Beach and to move forward, move forward very quickly uh with the nano bubbles.

7:03:34

I know that we had uh the pre-application meeting with with with the county, and we had the on-site meetings, but you know, move forward with whatever applications we need in order to implement the technology and continue working for the dredging.

7:03:51

None of this substitutes the dredging.

7:03:54

So the motion by Commissioner Fernandez, Commissioner Bottts, second.

7:03:58

All in favor?

7:04:01

Aye.

7:04:01

I would like to co-sponsor if possible.

7:04:04

Okay, so it gives me one sec.

7:04:05

So it's approved 7-0.

7:04:06

Uh I have a co-sponsored by Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez, and I thought I had heard someone else.

7:04:11

Commissioner Magazine.

7:04:12

And so as well.

7:04:14

I have a feeling we'll have most, if not all of us.

7:04:17

Okay, so the entire commission.

7:04:19

Yeah.

7:04:20

Yep.

7:04:20

Okay.

7:04:21

So this is an after-the-fact resolution, so property management or environmental after the fact reso.

7:04:33

All right.

7:04:34

It's called R5T.

7:04:42

R5Ts and R so the Mayor City Commission of the City by Meachworth.

7:04:45

Amending chapter 106 of the city code and tele traffic and vehicles by amending article 3 and title off street parking lots and facilities by amending Section 106-118 and titled private property.

7:05:00

Use for motor vehicle parking signage required penalties by amending supplementing and enhancing the signage requirements applicable to owners and operators of private property with such properties open to the public and paid motor vehicle parking and providing for repeaters of ability qualification and effective date.

7:05:07

This is a first reading public hearing.

7:05:09

It is item R52.

7:05:10

Ralph, I'd like to co-sponsor.

7:05:17

That's why.

7:05:19

All right.

7:05:19

Should we do the whole commission again?

7:05:20

Everybody on board.

7:05:22

Thank you, Mr.

7:05:23

Mayor.

7:05:23

All right.

7:05:24

I think you got it passed.

7:05:25

There you come.

7:05:26

Um thinking, Mr.

7:05:27

Mayor.

7:05:28

Uh, this is an item that I brought forward to reduce the confusion and prevent residents and visitors from from mistakenly thinking they're parking in a city-owned lot only to end up towed or fined.

7:05:41

And I'm bringing this uh ordinance in response to complaints and concerns that Abby uh Snyder Gadinski uh brought to us uh earlier.

7:05:51

We had meetings with her and our internal team.

7:05:55

Um you all may recall about a year ago, we adopted signage uh requiring there be clear notices outside of private parking lots that they're entering a non-city operated parking lot.

7:06:11

Unfortunately, that's not enough.

7:06:13

Unfortunately, people are driving past those signs.

7:06:16

As Abby mentioned, those signs, and I quote, our giraffe height.

7:06:20

If you're in your car, there's no way you're gonna see a sign all the way up there that you're entering a private lot.

7:06:27

And the reason why they're so high is because the county, and I think it's the state standards, uh Will, is it Miami Dade County that requires it, or is it the state that requires them to be so high?

7:06:37

Miami Date, sir.

7:06:38

Miami Dade.

7:06:39

Miami Dade requires us to place these signs about what, seven feet high?

7:06:45

Uh yes, Commissioner, seven feet.

7:06:47

And so it makes it impossible as people are driving into these slots to see these signs that we've placed, because they're pretty much high.

7:06:56

Um what this item does is that it requires for there to be a decal posted at each one of the payment sites, letting people know, giving them a warning that this is a private parking lot.

7:07:10

Is that correct?

7:07:10

Will that is correct?

7:07:12

I'll bring up uh Alberto because I know he worked for the city attorney's office more closely with this.

7:07:17

That is correct.

7:07:18

So there will be a sticker in every paid-by-phone sign that they have in the parking lot.

7:07:23

Okay.

7:07:23

All right.

7:07:24

Is there anything else that you would like to place on the record about this item?

7:07:30

Yes.

7:07:32

Mr.

7:07:32

Vice Premier.

7:07:34

Um the way that you're doing the mobile app notification when people are parking in tow zones in um loading zones.

7:07:42

Is there a way to do that for the private parking lots so that people know when they go to enter into their um their app?

7:07:50

It's one thing to have a sticker there, it can peel off.

7:07:52

It might nobody might notice.

7:07:54

Um, but it once you like go to put in your app, you could have a little pop-up that says this is not a city-owned parking lot, please note accordingly.

7:08:04

Because there are the same vendors that we use, we can always ask them if they're able to do it.

7:08:08

But again, this is a private parking lot, so we can ask them to do something in a private lot.

7:08:14

But we can always ask the vendors if the pro if the property owners are eligible to doing that.

7:08:20

Well, couldn't we go to the property owners?

7:08:21

I mean, they're they're in our city doing business, so why wouldn't we be able to engage with them directly?

7:08:26

Commissioner, I I love the thought process.

7:08:28

The challenge here is, and I'll speak in broad terms.

7:08:32

Some of the pay by and I'll some of the automated pay apps don't have that capability.

7:08:38

So we we've even with with our two vendors that we have here on the beach, there are certain things that we wanted to do where one vendor had the technological capabilities to do it, and the other one unfortunately did not.

7:08:47

And while they are two of I would say the three largest vendors out there, um private lots are able to use any vendor.

7:08:56

And when I say that the amount of vendors that perform this type of service are immeasurable, um, because really it's a it's it's a very basic uh technological function.

7:09:07

Um I'm going to go out on a limb and say most of the vendors wouldn't have that capability to put up special verbiage that says, hey, this is not a city of Miami parking facility.

7:09:19

Can we go through the exercise of reaching out to people though?

7:09:22

Because even if we only get 10 or 15 percent of the the lots, that's 10 or 15 percent of prospective parkers who don't have nervous breakdown because they thought they were in a in a city lot and find out the hard way they weren't.

7:09:35

We absolutely can, Commissioner.

7:09:36

One of the things I'll actually do is uh reverse that exercise and speak internally with the two that we have to see what capabilities we have to put this is an official city of Miami Beach, you know, parking facility, or so that way we say if you are looking to park on Miami Beach within the city of Miami Beach right of way, look for this on your you know on your mobile app, and this will assure you that you're parking with a city of Miami Beach um parking facility rather than a private operator.

7:10:08

Yeah, it'd be great to go in both directions.

7:10:10

Absolutely.

7:10:21

I move the item.

7:10:25

Let's call the vote.

7:10:27

It is a public hearing.

7:10:28

I see no one in Zoom.

7:10:29

Do I see anyone in the audience?

7:10:32

Think we're good.

7:10:33

Uh if no further discussion, Commissioner Fernandez.

7:10:36

Yes.

7:10:37

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

7:10:39

Yes.

7:10:39

Commissioner Suarez.

7:10:40

Yes.

7:10:41

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:10:42

Yes.

7:10:42

Commissioner Bott.

7:10:43

Yes.

7:10:44

West Mayor Magazine.

7:10:45

Yes.

7:10:45

Mayor Minor.

7:10:46

Yes.

7:10:46

Motion is approved.

7:10:47

Second reading public hearing is October 29th.

7:10:49

I'm going to list the entire commission as co-sponsoring this item.

7:10:52

Okay.

7:10:53

Yay.

7:10:54

Back to back.

7:10:55

Thank you, guys.

7:10:55

Nice.

7:10:56

And thank you for your uh advocacy.

7:10:58

Thank you, Abby.

7:11:02

Let's call it.

7:11:07

R5, R5J.

7:11:14

R5J is an Arsenal Mayor of City Commissioner City of My Beach Florida.

7:11:17

I'm in Chapter 70 of the Code of the City of Ammunity Beach and titled Miscellaneous Offenses by amending Article 2 entitled Public Places by Amending Division 2 and titled Blastic Lee Skateboarding, Roller Skating, Inline Skating, Motorized Means of Transportation, Electric Bicycling, Mopeds, Motorcycles, Motorized Bicycles, and Motorized Scooters by creating Section 70-73 to be entitled Safe Operation of Personal Delivery Devices and Mobile Carriers to impose additional local safety requirements consistent with state law and providing for a Peter Sovability Calification of an effective date.

7:11:45

This is a second reading public hearing.

7:11:46

It is item R5J.

7:11:48

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

7:11:51

So this is an ordinance regulating the delivery robots that you have seen around town.

7:11:57

It's been really interesting learning about the companies and how they function.

7:12:02

There are currently three robot companies working on Miami Beach.

7:12:05

It is not just serve.

7:12:06

There's the pink bot with the little heart eyes, and then there's another red robot, and I forgot the name of that robot.

7:12:14

But one of the most important things that we discovered is that really they are taking up our real estate, kind of like any sidewalk cafe.

7:12:22

And sometimes they're idling for long amounts of time.

7:12:26

And just to give you an idea, the way that the robots work is they get picked up every evening at a certain location.

7:12:33

They get taken to be charged and reserviced and then brought back uh in the morning.

7:12:38

Um and so we did our best with what we had to work with.

7:12:44

Um I believe we compromise on the speed, Commissioner Bott, because I know that that was a concern for you.

7:12:51

In the future, we might consider raising the price.

7:12:55

Um right now it's 100 per device, but depending on how many there are and how much real estate they eventually end up taking up, we might change that in the future if not preempted.

7:13:07

Was there a limit on how much we could charge per bot?

7:13:11

Um, I believe that we've done something that is consistent with what we were allowed to do.

7:13:16

Um, because it's not based on the number of devices that the vendor has, but rather how many devices are being used at one particular time.

7:13:26

So and um not all bots and not all bot companies are created equal.

7:13:31

Some of course, you know, are operating and following the rules, some are not.

7:13:36

Um but what this does state is that no bot can idle for longer than three consecutive minutes.

7:13:41

And I don't know if you've observed around town.

7:13:43

I do see bots that are staying way longer than three minutes, but this does give us a tool at the same time to move the bots along.

7:13:51

So this is Brown Green legislation.

7:13:53

We're the first city in the state of Florida to pass anything whatsoever regulating the robots.

7:13:59

Um I was yes?

7:14:00

Yes.

7:14:00

No, the between first and second reading, as a result of discussions that were had, the the idling time was increased from three to thirty minutes.

7:14:09

Just wanted to clarify that.

7:14:10

Yeah, I don't think we should we'd we allow for 30 minutes because what I have right here is three minutes.

7:14:16

Are you looking at the supplemental?

7:14:18

There was a supplemental.

7:14:21

How do you guys feel about allowing bots to idle for 30 minutes at a time on eight, six?

7:14:31

So we switched from six to eight miles, but I don't think that we okay.

7:14:36

Six months period to get into compliance.

7:14:39

Okay.

7:14:42

Oh.

7:14:43

Um how do you feel about allowing the idling for 30 minutes?

7:14:47

30.

7:14:49

I I we had three minutes.

7:14:51

I think we can find something in between 30 minutes, it seems like a long time.

7:14:55

Commissioner Bott.

7:14:56

I have you know, there's only so much we can do on this.

7:15:00

I don't like these.

7:15:01

I think they are really problematic in cities like ours where we have very narrow and and cluttered and broken sidewalks in too many places.

7:15:10

Um I understand that they need to idle to get their next pickup orders or whatever, but 30 minutes of these devices just hanging around.

7:15:20

If if your team of bots is idling for 30 minutes at a time, then you have too many bots in our city.

7:15:29

You have too many devices that are not being used for their intended purpose.

7:15:33

So if three minutes is too short, okay, let's double it and give them till six minutes.

7:15:39

But to 30 minutes, no, that's absolutely crazy.

7:15:42

Because if your if your device that you pay good money for um is not being used because there's no demand for it, then get it off the street.

7:15:50

I agree with you, and I didn't realize that this was 30 minutes until I looked at it right now.

7:15:54

Should we do you want to just it's so random six minutes?

7:15:58

Five minutes?

7:15:59

I just said six because I was doubling it.

7:16:01

I mean I I'd be just as happy to keep it at three.

7:16:03

Rick, can you give us some clarification?

7:16:05

Sure.

7:16:05

I mean, the one thing I would caution is that the preemption by the state allows us to do certain things relating to safety.

7:16:12

Um the shorter the window for the idling, the you know, potential for this to be challenged.

7:16:18

So I believe that the 30 minutes was an attempt to to make sure that this ordinance would be I I think that so it's really odd what happens at nighttime around 10 p.m.

7:16:28

all the bots come to one place so that they can get picked up so slowly across the city, they all gather.

7:16:34

And I think that's why they wanted the 30 minutes so that all the bots can gather together at one time so they can be picked up.

7:16:41

Um if that's what well let's find that out through the mayor, if I may.

7:16:46

Please.

7:16:47

So if there is a need to, I mean, it sounds like a terrible B space sp sci-fi movie, but if the bots are gathering at night to report back to their overlords every evening, God help us.

7:17:00

Um and so at one point during the 24-hour period, they need more than whatever it is, 10 five or 10 minutes to get to the gathering point and get picked up, then that is one thing, and I think we should craft our legislation accordingly.

7:17:15

Like, so let me, if you don't mind.

7:17:17

Um so if they need that time at that time of day for one function, which is to get gathered up and put on their little bot bus and get taken back to their cubbies, um, then we can talk about it for that function.

7:17:31

But for regular course of business, I don't want these things just littering our sidewalks if they're not actually being used.

7:17:38

So I think it should be during the day.

7:17:41

A bot cannot idle for more than five minutes at any given location, but at night for pickup once per day, they can gather at their pickup location.

7:17:54

Um I can't remember, is Rob here right now or is he on vacation?

7:17:59

So I think that I think that will take care of it because that was the the one request that they had that they needed the bots to get serviced at night.

7:18:06

And we can always amend this moving forward because it is gonna change, and this is you know our first attempt at regulation.

7:18:12

So bots may gather one location, and and when they when they come in to register their companies, they have to specify which location they are going to do their pickup.

7:18:22

We want to register the location.

7:18:24

They can only idle for the 30 minutes at their pickup location at night.

7:18:29

All other times, five minutes.

7:18:32

Okay, so let me repeat, make sure that I have what the proposed amendment is.

7:18:37

Um during the daytime, the maximum idle time will be five minutes in the evening when the bots are getting ready to uh go back to our Lord Master, um, then they could idle for up to 30 minutes at a location to be identified by the vendor when the vendor applies for its permit.

7:18:57

Yes.

7:18:57

I have a question for the mayor.

7:19:00

Does this require for these robots to beep?

7:19:04

Yes.

7:19:05

Yes.

7:19:06

To beep.

7:19:08

Okay, then we're talking about robots that are mainly going into dense areas.

7:19:16

Dense areas where we know noise travels.

7:19:21

And when that noise travels, our residents are gonna be reaching out to us and they're gonna be telling us that beeping noise.

7:19:30

Whoever thought to have these all of these robots beeping throughout our neighborhood.

7:19:37

And so I just want us to be careful about putting this requirement because I do feel that that could have an unintended consequence on the quality of life of our residents.

7:19:48

And then later on, once this is passed, the only way to change it is by going through a whole ordinance and public hearing process that takes months to get done.

7:20:00

Well, it's a periodic audible sound.

7:20:01

Just to let people know that they're there.

7:20:04

And actually, I think it was required by the state of Florida.

7:20:09

An ADA thing, I would imagine.

7:20:11

But to your to your point, Commissioner Fernandes, it can be not a beep, but some kind of other warning sound, and maybe we could consult with our committee or city committee on disability to determine other sounds that might provide the same function without it being an actual beeping noise.

7:20:37

Like why?

7:20:37

Like what kind of no, like you know, like when phones are developed, they they test 8 million different sounds for the the sound of the keys, right?

7:20:47

So it it's something that you can hear and recognize, but it's not like a jarring sound.

7:20:54

I would just put audible noise to be approved.

7:21:00

I would go to the committee and get some feedback from people who need the sound.

7:21:04

You know, when when you cross a uh a street with the button, there is a beeping noise so that people who can't see the light change can hear it.

7:21:14

In this country it sounds one way, in other countries it sounds lots of different ways.

7:21:17

So there are lots of different ways to do this that perhaps would not be as um problematic to people trying to go to sleep at night as a traditional beep.

7:21:27

Just because we don't have the answer sitting here on the dais doesn't mean that there isn't a better answer out there.

7:21:32

And I'm just asking that we find what the better answer is.

7:21:35

Mr.

7:21:35

Vice Mayor, I mean is is any of the representatives who represent these companies here to speak?

7:21:42

Well, the robot on Zoom.

7:21:44

Yeah, that's what I meant.

7:21:45

Is there anyone?

7:21:46

No one on Zoom.

7:21:47

There is, but not a representative.

7:21:49

Not that not a representative.

7:21:50

There are no bots here to speak for themselves.

7:21:52

I'll tell you what, I can I can defer this until the next meeting on the 29th, because I want to get it right.

7:21:59

And in the interim, I will find out what noise the bots will admit will emit, and we can make those changes also.

7:22:06

Sure.

7:22:07

And because I don't think I I do want to get it right, there's gonna be a lot of bots around the city.

7:22:12

And um they're gonna be rainbow bots, just so that you know.

7:22:17

But it's not like a like a that's a kind of like an airbrushed pastel rainbow.

7:22:23

I was trying to get pink turquoise bots.

7:22:26

Um, but actually there's a pink bot, and then there's another bot company that has all red bots, and then serve is normally beige and green, but they're going to do um a special bot for us.

7:22:38

And actually, if you request, like for example, you know, a rainbow bot during Pride Month, like real rainbow by you could get that too.

7:22:46

And we're not we don't need gay bots.

7:22:51

Big bots anyway.

7:22:52

I mean, but you could do anything, like you, you know, if you wanted a special bot for a special occasion, you could probably request it from the owners of the company.

7:23:00

So let's send it to neighborhoods, I guess.

7:23:04

And we'll no, I'm sorry, just defer.

7:23:06

We'll defer it.

7:23:07

Open and continue.

7:23:08

Open no, yeah, open and continue till I want to hear it in October, the second reading.

7:23:14

Okay, so we're open.

7:23:15

Okay.

7:23:15

By acclamation, may we open and continue this item to October 29th.

7:23:20

Yes.

7:23:24

Okay, so we'll do it, we'll do it at the same time as it's published now at 9 50, October 29, 9 50 a.m.

7:23:32

So done.

7:23:34

Okay.

7:23:35

R5G.

7:23:41

R5G is an order so the mayor of City Commission of City Mayor Beach Florida, amending chapter 50 of the code of the city of Mayor Beach entitled fire prevention and protection by amending section 50-10 establish permitting fees to recover costs associated with compliance of the minimum radio strength for fire department communications in all new existing buildings as required by Section 633.202 subsection 18 Florida statutes and further amending section 1-15 and title fee schedule by amending appendix A thereof to provide for the permitting fees and costs associated with compliance of the minimum radio strength for fire department communications and all new existing buildings and providing for repeat or server ability qualification on effective date R5G is a second reading public hearing.

7:24:20

Chief.

7:24:21

Well, first I wanted to thank you last week on 9-11.

7:24:24

You and your team and our city put together a uh an incredibly meaningful 9-11 ceremony at the fire station.

7:24:31

And um just wanted to thank you for that.

7:24:33

Well, thank you.

7:24:34

I appreciate you.

7:24:36

So tell me about this item.

7:24:38

I'm the sponsor, but yeah.

7:24:40

Um good afternoon, fire chief Dignabello.

7:24:43

So the bidirectional amplification statue one and two um was proposed in 2016.

7:24:50

And basically um it's what allows us to communicate with our dispatchers and police officers or command um structure system while we're inside a building.

7:25:04

Currently, because of the building materials, um, it's becoming very difficult for communication to be transmitted outside these structures.

7:25:15

So the law passed and the workload of ensuring that new constructions have are in compliance is very um overwhelming for the one person that is overseeing uh the application process as well as ensuring that the building owners of the new buildings, existing buildings are in compliance with the state Florida statue.

7:25:42

Yeah, I'll say you're very convincing.

7:25:51

I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience by Spain magazine.

7:25:55

Yes.

7:25:55

Commissioner Suarez.

7:25:57

Yes.

7:25:57

Commissioner Bott.

7:25:58

Yes, Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

7:26:00

Yeah.

7:26:00

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:26:01

Yes.

7:26:02

Commissioner is minor.

7:26:04

Yes.

7:26:04

Motion carries the item is approved.

7:26:06

That was item R5G.

7:26:07

Thank you.

7:26:08

I appreciate it.

7:26:08

Thank you.

7:26:14

And R5C.

7:26:15

Yes, sir.

7:26:18

R5B.

7:26:20

In order to the mayor of City Commission of the City of Maya Beach, Florida, amending chat amending the city of Maya Beach year 2040 comprehensive plan pursuant to the small scale amendment process of section 163.3187, Florida statutes by amending the resilient land use and development element.

7:26:34

Goal RLU 1 and title land use objective, RLU 1.1 and title establishment of future land use categories and policy RLU 1.1.17.

7:26:42

Entitled Public Facilities Governmental Use PF by modifying and expanding uses allowed and amending the future land use map by changing the future land use designation for a parcel of land located at 7605 Collins Avenue, which is comprised of less than 10 acres from the current designation of single family residential RS to public facility to government use as PF and providing for inclusion in the comprehensive plan, transmittal repealer servability and effective date.

7:27:08

That was item that is item R5B.

7:27:10

It is a first reading public hearing.

7:27:12

R5C is an order to the mayor, city commissioner of the city of MBB Troughum and the official zoning map zoning district reference in section 7.2.1.2 of the Miami Beach Resiliency Code and title district map pursuant to section 2.5.1 and titled change of zoning district boundaries, rezoning by changing the zoning district classification for a parcel of land located at 7605 Collins Avenue, which is comprised of less than 10 acres from the current zoning classification of RS4 single family residential to GU government use.

7:27:42

I'm providing for codification repeater sub ability on effective date.

7:27:46

R5C is a first reading public hearing.

7:27:48

R5C is a 57th vote.

7:27:51

So I'll let Tom talk about the technicalities, but basically for those who are tuning in, um in December or of 2023 or January 2024, this commission did some land banking and acquired this parcel that is a private that was a private house in the in the middle of our park up in North Beach at Altos Del Mar Park.

7:28:13

Um in order for it to be used in any um useful way rather than sitting vacant or being sold or used as a as a home.

7:28:22

We need zoning law changes to let us do something productive with it.

7:28:27

Um lest there be any concern, this is a government use only, which limits the kinds of things that can happen there.

7:28:33

There won't be a nightclub, there won't be a restaurant, there won't be you know anything that could be disruptive.

7:28:39

Um what the the primary use um or the the primary meaning first and not necessarily the continue the the entirety of the use is to allow surfrider, which is a not-for-profit organization that you've heard a lot about because I do um water quality testing around Miami Beach in South Florida to move out of their um shared office lab space that they have here a few blocks from City Hall and um into a slightly larger space that will allow them to get service certified because they'll have bathroom um facilities that allow them to get a certain kind of certification that that um that enables them to do different kinds of testing and have their results be used in in more comprehensive ways.

7:29:23

That is the first thing that's gonna happen in this facility.

7:29:27

I think there's discussion still about what's going to happen beyond that.

7:29:30

Um, but that's why we're bringing it and it has to be voted on twice.

7:29:34

Today is the first reading, then we'll come back in October for the second reading.

7:29:38

And basically, as soon as we hit yes on the second reading, surfrider can go in and um set up shop and get themselves certified and um go to town.

7:29:48

So, Tom, if you want to talk more technically about what this is, feel free.

7:29:53

Sure, it's actually um a pretty simple couple of amendments.

7:30:00

Um as the commission is aware, and as indicated by Commissioner Bott, um the city purchased this property by resolution in March of 2024.

7:30:07

When the city acquired the property, it actually automatically rezoned from RS4 to GU.

7:30:13

R5B basically formalizes that by modifying the zoning atlas.

7:30:18

However, the purchase of the property did not amend the future land use designation, and that's probably the biggest part of this.

7:30:25

The future land use designation is changing from RS, which is very limited in terms of the use that you can do, to government facility, government use public facility or public facility government uses.

7:30:38

And there's also a corresponding text amendment to the comprehensive plan that would allow for that broader array of uses that Commissioner Bottled to, and this includes things like arts and cultural organizations, uh environmental and science related uses and community centers.

7:30:55

And so uh with that, uh the administration recommends that the commission approve both of these at first reading and set second reading for October 29th.

7:31:04

Mr.

7:31:04

Mayor.

7:31:05

Commissioner Suarez, thank you.

7:31:07

Um to the mayor.

7:31:08

Tom, uh, there's also been discussions of turning to a marine science center uh for the community.

7:31:13

Does this help that?

7:31:16

Yes, this would uh we specifically uh did a text amendment to expand the array of uses that would be permitted uh on the property and uh science centers like that would be permitted.

7:31:29

Okay.

7:31:30

And and Eric, uh Mr.

7:31:32

City Manager.

7:31:33

So we've already purchased this building.

7:31:35

Is that correct?

7:31:36

Correct.

7:31:37

And if we want to change the use of it uh from the building department to any other department, explain to the public how we would have to, I guess move around our finances to support that.

7:31:52

So this is it's really just um the inner workings of government.

7:31:59

The building department is an enterprise fund that has certain parameters that the dollars that are collected by that fund can be used for, and it all relates to providing um enforcement and permitting under the state building code.

7:32:17

So if we were to want to use this property for another purpose, we would just have to do an intergovernmental fund transfer from one of our other accounts.

7:32:29

And so we would have to technically purchase that from the building department?

7:32:33

Correct.

7:32:34

Okay.

7:32:36

But the in terms of tax dollars, it's just going from one government entity to the other?

7:32:41

One pocket to the other pocket.

7:32:43

Okay.

7:32:46

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:32:48

Thank you, Mr.

7:32:48

Mayor.

7:32:49

And building upon Commissioner Suarez's good point, we already authorized the city administration to do this.

7:32:55

Is that correct?

7:32:56

I thought I I thought we passed legislation authorizing to take it up as part of the end of the year close out that we will undertake in November.

7:33:06

Because we anticipate there being a surplus at the end of the year so that we can go ahead and make that interdepartmental transfer between funds.

7:33:16

Correct.

7:33:17

It just hasn't happened yet.

7:33:18

So what are we going to do with the funds from the building department?

7:33:21

I guess because they're going to have an extra six and a half million dollars uh in their in their pocket.

7:33:27

From one pocket to the other, so the other pocket that's getting the money.

7:33:30

What are they going to do with it?

7:33:32

So we've already had some preliminary conversations with the building department.

7:33:37

We would like to find a location for them to be able to expand their services in North Beach to be closer to the folks in that part of the city that might need those permitting services.

7:33:48

Uh, right now we're renting space in one of the commercial buildings up there.

7:33:53

Uh we'd like to potentially get away from renting that space and own something.

7:33:58

Would it also be possible to just give it back to the taxpayers?

7:34:03

The six and a half million dollars instead of having to find something to purchase.

7:34:07

I mean, can we can we give it back?

7:34:10

So those are building permit fees.

7:34:14

So you would be giving those permit fees back to whoever paid those permit fees.

7:34:22

Uh excuse me, I'm a little confused.

7:34:24

So the the bill the building department is going to receive a check from the city for six uh and six million in change.

7:34:34

That's six million change.

7:34:35

You're telling me that we we can spend it on maybe purchasing another property instead of renting.

7:34:42

I'm simply asking, can that be maybe given back to the general fund and then uh as a rebate back to the to the my beach residence?

7:34:52

So I would welcome the city attorney to weigh in, but my understanding is you cannot commingle enterprise funds and general fund documents.

7:35:00

That is correct.

7:35:01

And to um clarify further what the manager said, um the funds would have to be redistributed to persons, developers who paid permitting fees in a pro-rata fashion.

7:35:14

And I think uh I see the the building director there who could probably provide even more detail because he knows the building code better than I do, but I believe it would be a pro-rata refund to anybody who has paid for a building permit, which could include a single family residence, but it could also include a major development such as some of the ones that have been approved uh in recent years.

7:35:38

I'd like to hear from the building directory, good afternoon.

7:35:44

Afternoon commission.

7:35:45

Yes, that is correct.

7:35:46

It would be prorated.

7:35:47

Uh, and then little by little we'd have to figure out through the statute 553.80 who participated and who would get those uh refunds back.

7:35:57

Uh obviously the single family homes and the smaller jobs will get a smaller piece of the pie than the larger developers, so that money would end up going back if that was the route to take.

7:36:08

And again, the statute dictates that that money collected is for enforcement of the building code, facilities for enforcement of the building code, systems for enforcement of the building code, and training for enforcement of the building code.

7:36:19

That is the strict parameter that is uh thrust upon us through the statute from the state.

7:36:24

Okay, so this is a this is a state state mandate.

7:36:27

We cannot so the the enterprise fund cannot give back to the general fund.

7:36:31

Well, if that were the case, we wouldn't even have to do this intergovernment transfer.

7:36:35

That's the whole point.

7:36:36

Okay.

7:36:36

Well, before there's any decision being made, I think it's upon the commission to to decide how we spend that six and a half million dollars for sure.

7:36:46

Yes, absolutely.

7:36:47

Okay, so when that time comes, I I appreciate uh Eric, you put it on the agenda for us to discuss.

7:36:54

Thanks.

7:36:55

Thank you.

7:36:57

Good.

7:36:59

Okay.

7:37:02

I'll make a motion.

7:37:04

Second.

7:37:06

I have a motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

7:37:10

This is both on R5C and R5B.

7:37:13

Uh it is a public hearing.

7:37:14

I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience.

7:37:19

Yes.

7:37:20

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:37:21

Yes.

7:37:22

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:37:23

Yes.

7:37:23

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

7:37:25

Yes.

7:37:27

Commissioner Suarez.

7:37:28

Yeah.

7:37:28

Commissioner Bach.

7:37:31

Commissioner Bott, present.

7:37:35

Mayor Minor.

7:37:36

Yes.

7:37:37

Both items R5C and R5B are approved.

7:37:41

Second meeting public hearing for both is October 29th.

7:37:45

R5 S5 S is an ordinance of the Mayor City Commission of the City of My Beach From Chapter 74 of the City Code of the City of I Beach, Florida.

7:38:02

I'm entitled peddlers and solicitors of Article 1 entitled in general by creating Section 74-2 to establish permit and business tax receipt requirements for home solicitation to establish hours of solicitation, conduct standards and permit display requirements to create a city maintain no solicitation list that solicitors must check, comply with to provide for enforcement penalties and right in revocation.

7:38:27

This is a first reading public hearing.

7:38:29

It is item R5S.

7:38:31

Commissioner Magazine.

7:38:33

Thank you, Mr.

7:38:34

Mayor.

7:38:34

And thank you for the city attorney's office for uh helping put this together.

7:38:38

Uh this was uh really came about being responsive to residents that uh have public safety concerns, especially in some of our high value areas.

7:38:47

Uh there are an abnormal amount of solicitors that go to door to door.

7:38:52

And while some certainly could be attributed to um normal commercial activities, uh there's a lot of fear out there, and I think some of it warranted that some could be used as almost a uh geys or disguise for essentially scoping out some very high value homes, especially this really ramped up during the summertime when people are away.

7:39:13

Any type of commercial enterprise uh would have been familiar with uh these areas would likely be um occupied by people that likely weren't going to be around for the summertime.

7:39:27

So sending people door to door during that specific uh uh time of year certainly raised the red flag.

7:39:34

And from some of the areas that really complained, uh they have seen an uptick in her home blur home burglaries, auto thefts and things like this.

7:39:43

This doesn't present uh prevent soliciting.

7:39:46

This establishes parameters around it, such as having to register, um have a BTR and want to be clear that uh this absolutely does not impede on anything protected under the First Amendment, such as uh political speech, uh anything I believe religious as well.

7:40:05

Um, but legal if you wanted to go uh and weigh in if I uh misspoke on anything, but essentially this is uh looking to protect the private properties and interests of our residents, commercial entities.

7:40:18

This is going to be the ones that are primarily uh have to comply with uh this registration and establishing some hours that even if you are registered where soliciting would or would not be permitted.

7:40:32

Um and again, like I said, uh there are some things that have gone to the Supreme Court and been protected under the First Amendment, and this is in no way to target those.

7:40:41

So Mr.

7:40:41

City Attorney, turn it over to you.

7:40:43

Yeah, of course.

7:40:44

So uh we've taken the definition for home solicitation sale from the Flor Florida statutes, and the Florida statute already requires um anybody who's engaging in home solicitation sales to register with the clerk of the court.

7:40:58

So there is a state-issued permit that is issued at the county level.

7:41:02

Uh what our ordinance does is it requires a business tax receipt uh to be obtained, and in order to do so, the individual must show that he or she or his business has a validly issued permit from the clerk of the court.

7:41:19

Um in addition, the ordinance limits the days and hours of solicitation to Monday through Saturday from 9 a.m.

7:41:28

to 7 p.m.

7:41:29

Uh we've included some standards of conduct uh such that solicitors may must refrain from deceptive, aggressive, or question of conduct.

7:41:38

Um they need to leave any premises upon request, and they cannot enter any property that has a no solicitation sign, or of a resident who has uh provided his or her name to the city's no solicitation list.

7:41:51

That's another important feature that we've added.

7:41:53

Uh residents can call in and request to have their name and address added to the no solicitation list.

7:42:01

Um and uh anybody who is gonna engage in home solicitation sales in the city would have to comply with with the wishes.

7:42:08

Um we've of co of course included enforcement and penalty provisions, uh a thousand dollars per day for a first offense, um five thousand for second or subsequent, and then uh the maximum is fifteen thousand for violations determined by special magistrate uh to be irreparable or irreversible in nature in nature, and further repeated violations could result in a revocation of the BTR.

7:42:34

Commissioner Ros Gonzalez, Commissioner Samorez.

7:42:37

Um my only concern about this is that this is how realtors farm their territory, and I don't want people getting a thousand dollar fine.

7:42:46

They have could they are they gonna get a warning first?

7:42:50

Or we how are we gonna notify people?

7:42:52

I think you need to notify every single realtor or at least the MLS, realtors.

7:42:58

Um so that people aren't getting fined.

7:43:01

Do they get a warning first before they get fined?

7:43:05

Well, that would be a good idea.

7:43:11

I think that's how it has to work.

7:43:12

I'd be fine.

7:43:13

Okay, so I would just amend it to make sure that they get a warning before they get the thousand dollar um fine.

7:43:19

So we will amend it so that it's a warning for a first offense, a thousand dollars per day for a second offense, and um five thousand per day for a third or subsequent offense with the fifteen thousand max when a special magistrate determines there's a reparable or irreversible um harm.

7:43:38

And let's say, for example, just a regular realtor wanted to go and knock on the door, you have to get the Miami Beach BTR.

7:43:46

Um would that be done by the broker or the realtor?

7:43:50

Because I'm just trying to think of people who would solicit door to door, you know, apart from the pesticide guy that we've all had knocking on our doors in mid-beach.

7:43:59

Security services, pesticides, that's the one that uh really raised some people's flags.

7:44:05

Um I don't know if we have PD that's here uh they could speak on that, but especially up in like the North Bay Road area, they've gotten a lot of different calls um for solicitation.

7:44:15

So who would get the violation?

7:44:17

Would the real estate broker get the violation or the realtor?

7:44:20

Because technically they're working for the broker, so now you're gonna have somebody out there knocking.

7:44:26

I mean, I guess they're gonna get the solicitation, but I do think there's gonna be pushback on this.

7:44:30

My my only question is um was there any public outreach done so people know?

7:44:36

No, but this could be part of that, right?

7:44:39

Two readings on this between first and second, and I would reach out to every brokerage in town, let them know.

7:44:45

Let pesticide companies know.

7:44:47

I would yeah, I don't know how we're gonna let people know.

7:44:49

I guess anybody who's operating a business in the city of Miami Beach should know.

7:44:55

And then do the warning.

7:45:00

Yeah, Rick, maybe uh Commissioner Suarez, and then maybe you can touch on what uh what we think the notice would be.

7:45:04

You know, we can't just implement this without uh without having it and and I want to make sure that in no way or form would this affect uh sort of door knocking for campaigning.

7:45:16

No, it absolutely expressly excludes that okay.

7:45:19

Or religious entities like Jehovah's Act.

7:45:21

And it expressly excludes that as well.

7:45:23

Yes.

7:45:24

Anything protected by the First Amendment is is not touched by this.

7:45:27

And in terms of outreach, I think uh maybe we could coordinate with uh the manager's office to figure out what the best means of reaching all potentially affected parties.

7:45:38

You know, uh it could be you know doing uh a mailing or a blast to BTR holders, um, but there may be other lists that we have that we can develop uh to engage in some in some education.

7:45:52

Um I also think that the addition of the warning um is also a great suggestion, and that would at least allow for a an initial warning if somebody wasn't aware we didn't reach them for whatever reason.

7:46:03

Uh to your question, Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez about um who would um I think generally speaking it's the business that would have to get the BTR.

7:46:12

So if it's um a real tier uh a real estate brokerage, um the business itself, I don't believe that we require individuals, but I I'm speaking out of line.

7:46:23

I think you know if we had uh somebody from finance or many here who could explain whether the BTRs are issued only to the broker or to every single individual.

7:46:34

I mean I'm an associate and I don't have a BTR, so it's my broker who is.

7:46:38

So then it's the broker.

7:46:39

So then it would the same would apply here.

7:46:41

Which actually would make it easier, right?

7:46:43

So then just Douglas Ellen would have to go out and get a BTR, and that would be an umbrella policy as opposed to the city.

7:46:49

Every person would need a copy of it so that they could present it if requested.

7:46:52

But what are the what if they already have a BTR?

7:46:55

So they already have a BTR, but it has to be a solicitation BTR in addition.

7:46:59

I just don't like putting extra layers on our businesses.

7:47:02

Look, I don't know how many of them are gonna be going out and you know, knocking on tours, but the question is um can you embed this, for example, into their regular BTR so that we don't give another layer of bureaucracy to businesses?

7:47:15

Because I feel like they're already saying they already say, God, it's so hard to operate in Miami Beach, and now you know what is like you know, now we're giving them another fee, another license.

7:47:26

Yeah, I believe maybe what could be done is at the time that the BTRs are renewed each year, and I don't know if that's already occurred for this fiscal year.

7:47:34

Um we could include a notice um advising that if you're engaged in home solicitation sales and we can provide the definition of that, then you just need to um let the let the uh the the finance department know that you are engaging in those sales and show proof that you have the court um the the clerk of county courts uh certificate.

7:47:56

So there's there's already a requirement that if you're engaging in solicitation sales, you need to have a permit from the county.

7:48:04

So we're just adding some additional rules in the city.

7:48:08

Okay.

7:48:10

Yeah, thank you for bringing the signing, Commissioner Magazine.

7:48:12

I I had received some calls recently about this.

7:48:15

One particular day.

7:48:17

Got a call from a number of residents, I guess they were going down the line of houses, and when they asked for information about the business, business card, a flyer, there was zero.

7:48:25

They mentioned they had an Instagram account that had been created literally an hour or two earlier with zero followers.

7:48:31

Um I think anybody who gets a knock on the door about that um would be concerned, and they were so you make the motion.

7:48:41

I can Commissioner Bott, I think moved it.

7:48:46

Commissioner Fernandez, second.

7:48:50

So motion by Commissioner Bott, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

7:48:53

It is a public hearing.

7:48:53

I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience.

7:48:56

This is to approve as amended.

7:48:58

May I call a roll?

7:49:00

Call it.

7:49:00

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:49:01

Yes.

7:49:02

Commissioner Suarez.

7:49:03

Yes.

7:49:03

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:49:04

Yes.

7:49:05

Mayor magazine.

7:49:05

Yes.

7:49:06

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

7:49:09

Yes.

7:49:10

Commissioner Bott.

7:49:11

Yes.

7:49:11

Mayor Minor.

7:49:12

Yes.

7:49:12

What should carry second reading public hearing is is scheduled for October 29th.

7:49:16

That was item R5S approved as amended.

7:49:21

And for the record on item R5B and R5C, Commissioner Bott is a yes.

7:49:29

R5U.

7:49:35

R5U is an order of the Mayor City Commission of the City of Miami Beach Fort Amending Chapter 62 of the City Code entitled Human Relations by Amending Article 2 and Title Discrimination by Amending Division 3 and Title Regulations by creating Section 62-93 thereof and titled service animals by adopting regulations pertaining to service animals, providing for several ability calification and an effective date.

7:49:54

R5U is a fresh reading.

7:49:56

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:50:01

Thank you, Mayor.

7:50:02

So Marjorie York and the Animal Welfare Committee have talked about this in the past.

7:50:08

And this item was to ensure that our city buildings had notification that service animals were welcome in exact compliance with what the state law is.

7:50:21

I second the item.

7:50:24

So motion by Commissioner Dominguez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

7:50:28

It is a public hearing.

7:50:29

I see no one on Zoom, no one in the audience requesting to speak.

7:50:33

Yes.

7:50:33

Commissioner Bott.

7:50:34

Yes.

7:50:35

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:50:36

Yes.

7:50:36

West Mayor Magazine.

7:50:37

Yes.

7:50:38

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:50:40

Commissioner Dominguez?

7:50:41

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:50:43

Yes.

7:50:43

Yes.

7:50:44

Commissioner Suarez.

7:50:45

Yes.

7:50:45

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

7:50:47

Yes.

7:50:47

Air Minor.

7:50:48

Yes.

7:50:48

Motion carry, second reading public hearing is scheduled for October 29th.

7:50:51

That was item R5U.

7:50:53

R5 V.

7:50:58

R5B is an order to the Mayor City Commission of the City of Miami Beach, Florida, amending chapter 2 of this code of the City of Miami Beach and Title Administration by amending Article 6 and Title Procurement by amending Division 3 and title Contract Procedures by creating Section 2-375.2 entitled Certification of Compliance with Anti-Discrimination and Anti-Boycott Requirements to Regulate City Grants and Sponsorship in accordance with state and local policy of providing for repeater sub-ability qualification of an effective date.

7:51:22

This is a first reading public hearing.

7:51:24

It is on R5 V.

7:51:25

Please add me as a sponsor.

7:51:27

Commissioner Suarez.

7:51:28

Thank you, Mr.

7:51:29

Mayor.

7:51:30

I think at the last hearing we made some last minute amendments that upon further review, I uh I'm not comfortable with.

7:51:48

Um as a catch-all for everyone else.

7:51:51

Um, but specifically for Miami Beach and Judaism in Miami Beach.

7:51:56

I think it's appropriate at this time to uh have an ordinance stand on its own.

7:52:02

Um equivocating anti-Semitism with crime and discrimination faced by other communities is really morally unacceptable.

7:52:12

We we've had um attacks here in Miami Beach on loc on local Jewish businesses multiple times.

7:52:21

Um we've had bomb threats.

7:52:24

We've had we've had elderly Jews leaving synagogues being accosted and verbally attacked simply for being Jewish.

7:52:36

We've had multiple incidences within synagogues and disruptions simply for being Jewish and speaking your mind.

7:52:46

Um we have even had local residents wishing that the Zionist hospitals be bombed.

7:52:57

And Jewish cities nuclearized by dirty bombs.

7:53:03

Um our own Jewish schools here in Miami Beach have had to increase their private security almost tenfold.

7:53:13

Um simply because there's just there's just a growing threat of bodily harm to to Jews and and frankly Jewish students.

7:53:26

Um you know this is a unique issue to Jews in Miami Beach that are clearly under threat within our own city, and this is a unique problem that needs a unique solution.

7:53:38

So that being said, I brought it back to first reading.

7:53:41

I hope I have more than one sponsor on this.

7:53:44

Um I think this is the right thing to do.

7:53:48

Thank you, Commissioner Suarez, and I and I joined on as a sponsor.

7:53:51

The the boycott divestment and sanctions, the BDS movement is uh basically it's uh and I mentioned this last time, it's economic warfare.

7:53:59

So there's a war being fought, unfortunately, on the battlefield, but this is uh directed at uh Jewish businesses, Israeli businesses throughout the world, basically shunning that uh that should not do business with them.

7:54:13

And we've seen incidences, it's almost unheard of, and you would think you you can't believe these things happen, but it's happening in other parts of the world as well, where for example, France, there are certain uh Israeli filmmakers, artists are literally banned from participating.

7:54:28

No other group, no other group is banned, but simply for being Jewish, they are banned, and this base and your legislation, Commissioner Suarez, and that's why I'm adding as a sponsor, basically says that if you're engaged in that and part of that economic warfare, um you just can't use we're not gonna utilize Miami Beach taxpayer funds to help you uh do that and participate in hate and anti-Semitism.

7:54:53

Simple as that.

7:54:54

Mr.

7:54:55

Mayor.

7:54:55

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:54:56

So, what's the difference between the two policies?

7:55:00

Because I see we have two very similar policies, R5 V and then R5W.

7:55:05

The city attorney get into the legal nuances.

7:55:08

Sure.

7:55:08

Um as you may recall, and as Commissioner Suarez just explained at the last meeting, um, the one that we are considering now was brought, and there was discussion to amend it to incorporate um all of the other categories of protected classes.

7:55:24

Um Commissioner Suarez thought about it some more, and he wanted to bring another item that addresses all of the other classes that would have been added.

7:55:34

So it's the same.

7:55:35

It's pretty much verbatim, except that the one that we're considering now is specific to anti-Semitism, and the other ordinance which we have not yet gone to addresses all other protective categories under the city's code of ordinances.

7:55:49

Okay, thank you.

7:55:51

Call the vote.

7:55:53

I need a motion or I'll make the motion.

7:55:55

I'll say motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Air Magazine.

7:56:00

It is a public hearing, I see no one in Zoom, unless you know one in the audience.

7:56:03

Vice Mayor Magazine.

7:56:04

Yes.

7:56:05

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

7:56:07

Yes.

7:56:07

Commissioner Bott.

7:56:08

Yes.

7:56:09

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:56:10

Yes.

7:56:11

Suarez.

7:56:12

Yes.

7:56:12

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:56:13

Yes.

7:56:14

Mayor Minor.

7:56:15

Yes.

7:56:15

Motion carry second reading public hearing scheduled for October 29th.

7:56:18

That was item R5V.

7:56:20

R5W.

7:56:24

R5W is an order to the Mayor and City Commission of the City of Miami Beach, Florida, amending chapter two of the city code of the city of Miami Beach and title administration by amending Article 6 entitled procurement by amending division three entitled contract procedures by creating section 2-375.3 entitled certification of compliance with anti-discrimination provisions of the city's human rights ordinance to regulate city grant and sponsorship in accordance with local policy and providing for repeaters of ability qualification and an effective date.

7:56:48

This is R5W.

7:56:49

It is a first reading.

7:56:51

I'd like to be added as a sponsor to this item as well.

7:56:53

Commissioner Suarez.

7:56:59

Excuse me, in the last ordinance.

7:57:00

Same things apply here, so save time.

7:57:04

Second.

7:57:05

Let's call the vote.

7:57:06

I have a motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

7:57:10

It is a public hearing, and I have one individual requesting to speak.

7:57:16

Please state your name, address, and you have two minutes.

7:57:20

Hello, my name is Katrina.

7:57:22

I didn't I was not aware of the rules that got maybe for the first uh reading.

7:57:27

We weren't allowed to make comments, so I meant to comment on the last um resolution.

7:57:32

But essentially, uh I am born and raised here in Miami Beach, and um I think that this uh you know anti-boycott divest uh and sanctions uh movement is trying to speak up for the human rights of Palestinians.

7:57:52

And Mayor Minor, you just mentioned that you know this is economic warfare.

7:57:57

You might be aware that these same tactics were used to fight apartheid in South Africa that um was demeaning dehumanizing and killing black South Africans.

7:58:08

So this is a very um tried and true um strategy and movement.

7:58:14

And so um I just want to point out that um certainly anti-Semitism and all forms of hatred are unacceptable.

7:58:25

And in Miami Beach, we are for the liberation and human rights of all people.

7:58:31

So separating this out is an interesting um strategy to say that you know certain types of discrimination and hatred are uh more tolerable somehow than others.

7:58:44

But this is I want Miami Beach to be a place where all people feel welcome and safe.

7:58:50

Um and um I don't think that you know asking people to um you know specifically avoid participation in boycott divest and sanction actions is uh reasonable or is what the people of Miami Beach necessarily want.

7:59:07

You guys have spent a lot of time today actually addressing Miami Beach issues, which I'm thankful for, but this kind of um, you know, I and I've spoken to you uh several of you in person about our investment in Israeli bonds so much your time is up.

7:59:24

Okay, call the rule, yes.

7:59:29

Commissioner Bott.

7:59:30

Yes.

7:59:33

Commissioner Suarez, yes, Commissioner Dominguez, yes, Commissioner Fernandez, yes, Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez, yes, Mayor Minor.

7:59:40

Yes, motion carries second reading public hearing is October 29th, R5W.

7:59:45

R5H.

8:00:00

R5H is an order to the Mayor City Commission of the City of My Beach Florida by amending by amending chapter one of the code of the city of Miami Beach entitled general provisions by amending section 1-15 and title fee schedule by amending appendix A thereof to one exclude the fiscal year 2026 consumer price index CPI adjustment on October 1, 2025 for all Miami Beach residence rates, and two add the monthly garage residential rates and providing for repeat or servability qualification and effective date.

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R5H is a second reading public hearing.

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Commissioner Fernandez.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Mayor.

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This is a simple item that provides a pause on the uh scheduled parking price uh adjustment on residential parking for the upcoming year.

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It also formalizes in our code the monthly garage residential rates and it advances the transition to of our garages to being fully cashless, which also results in a cost savings uh to the city.

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Uh so I think this just continues our efforts that we've been doing to provide uh cost relief to our residents and also being more efficient in our operations.

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And with that, I move the item.

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Second.

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Second.

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Let's call the vote.

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It is a public hearing.

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I have a motion from Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

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Uh is no one on Zoom, no one in the audience.

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Commissioner Fernandez.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Dominguez.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Bach.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Suarez.

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Bus Mayor Magazine.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

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Yes.

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Mayor Minor.

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Yes.

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Motion carry second read.

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This was second reading.

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The item is approved.

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That was item R5H.

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R7S.

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Okay.

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Sorry.

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S we did.

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I'm sorry, R7S.

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I'm sorry.

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Accept recommendation enhanced multinodal transportation plan art week 2025.

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R7 S.

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Okay.

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Commissioner Dominguez.

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Thank you.

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Is the transportation department here?

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So the transportation committee had um deliberated over several meetings on different ideas and plans.

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It was very thorough, and they sent in their recommendations to each of us quite some time ago.

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And Jose, if you'd like to give some information on their feedback and see if it's something that we can start working on.

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Yes, thank thank you.

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Good afternoon, Mr.

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Mayor.

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Commissioners Jose Gonzalez, Transportation and Mobility Director.

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As Commissioner Dominguez pointed out, at the last public safety neighborhood quality of life committee, we presented what we're calling an enhanced water taxi.

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I'm sorry, an enhanced art week plan for 2025.

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The plan essentially consists of putting more water taxi vessels in service in order to bring down the passenger wait times.

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For art week 2024, we deployed several water taxi vessels.

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It was very popular, widely used.

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The only constructive criticism that we received is that there were too few vehicles in service.

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Even though the um headways were 15 minutes with four vessels, the lines were sometimes hundreds of um passengers long.

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So this what we're proposing as the enhanced plan would put more vessels in service as well as the shuttle, the shuttle services that we had last year, we would continue to provide free uh free shuttle services for um we have two different loops.

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We have a uh Miami Beach loop which connects all the art fairs within our city, and then we have an outer loop that goes across the Julia Total Causeway on the bus lanes connecting art fairs in the design district to the art fairs here in Miami Beach.

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In order to uh deploy the enhanced uh art week plan, we do need additional funding, and you will see uh uh the the request as part of the uh the budget, the fiscal year 26 budget.

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We uh prepared a enhancement request, and the enhancement request is being recommended uh in about uh 250 258,000 dollars, but we need an additional 130,000 dollars in order to provide the enhanced plan.

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If the funding is not identified, then for art week 2025, we would provide the same level of service that we provided in 2024.

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Uh Vice Mayor Magazine, is this one of the items that we'll be discussing today after 5?

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It's recommended by this by the city, or maybe uh city manager can chime in.

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So um I can add just a little uh we were in negotiations with Art Basel for extending their contract.

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We still are hopeful that we will reach an agreement with them, and that new contract that we were potentially going to be entering into would have a contribution from Art Basel towards transportation during Art Week.

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Um we were hopeful that once Art Basel signed on to that, we would be able to reach out to the other art fairs and hopefully bridge that $130,000 gap.

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Um unfortunately we are not there yet, and so I think that this is an appropriate conversation to have during the budget process Five.

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And um Art Basel for 2025 is set to go.

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Yes.

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And so this is for this year, it's not for future ones.

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Um it's going to happen regardless.

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I would recommend that we move forward with uh and find funding for the gap of 133, because this year's it's not in question.

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And we always try to mitigate traffic, find creative solutions, do things that are going to help.

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100% agree with you that we're always trying to do things a little bit better.

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Um we were certainly looking to save a few dollars because of the um budget challenges that we had this year, and so we were asking our partners to chip in.

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Um because we haven't reached the conclusion of those negotiations.

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We may have to find a stopgap measure for this.

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Can you still reach out to uh the art fairs of the other side that would be benefiting from this transportation?

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So I know that we have in the past gotten some participation from Miami Dade County and City of Miami on some of these shuttle routes.

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Have we reached out to them for this year?

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We we have uh we've reached out to Miami Dade County to provide the the shuttle loop that goes across the causeway to connect Miami to Miami Dade County.

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Um sorry, uh Miami to Miami Beach.

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We have uh a meeting coming up with their director over there to discuss ways of of partnering.

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Uh but last year they ultimately they they did not provide uh actual uh funding for for the what about grants or things that we might be able to ask from the Florida Inland Navigation to Spencer Crowley and his team.

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Do they contribute for something like this?

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I know that for the boat truly the boat parade, they contributed a little money.

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Did they?

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Um my understanding from dealing with them in the past was that they preferred to contribute to capital uh expenditures, but we can reach out to them.

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The only thing I would I would mention is that typically they're accepting applications around the first of the fiscal year for the following fiscal year.

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So it's usually a year later when you get the.

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So they saw my boat parade item on the agenda and they reached out to me and said, hey, we'll uh give money.

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This would be different than applying for uh something for capital improvement or something of that nature.

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Okay.

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So I would still reach out.

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We reach out to Spencer.

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Thank you.

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And and through the vice chair.

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I hope you have a good negotiation skills, Eric.

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Okay.

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Well, because I think it's only fair that they contribute to you know to an event that they're hosting.

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I mean, we're hosting and they're ultimately profiting from.

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So looking forward to hearing your contract negotiation outcome.

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Jose, um have we spoken with any of the like new robo taxi services?

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I know it's some of the big events and conventions.

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Um has rolled out uh the robo taxi out in Las Vegas and doing it for free um to promote their product and world class.

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Uh what better place to showcase that than Art Basil that's uh truly on the global stage.

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Have we uh got an innovative with any things like that?

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And perhaps if not think it's too late, or can we still try and uh see if any types of the new technology would be possible and want to use this as a showcaser platform?

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Obviously, things that are established things like ZOOCs, you know, from Amazon and Waymo and things of that nature.

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Right.

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Um Commissioner, we have not, but we'd you know we'd be happy to.

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For prior art years, we have reached out to some of the companies that provide autonomous shuttles.

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Uh however, there was still a uh cost involved with that, and and so it it didn't come to to fruition.

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Okay.

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But we'd be happy to read it.

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Yeah, check it out.

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Okay.

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Sorry, Commissioner Fernandes.

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And then Commissioner's also um similar to the issue of Art Week.

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Sorry.

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Carried on your item.

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I promise I don't want this.

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On the issue of Art Week.

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Um, I want to make sure, not related to this item but related to transportation, that we are in touch with Miami Dade County regarding the opening of the Venetian bridge.

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Because I know in the past we've had issues that they start opening the bridge, I believe at 7 p.m.

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And we've realized that 7 p.m.

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there is still a lot of art week traffic along Alta Road, along the causeways.

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It's kind of like the feels like it's kind of like peak hour uh for Art Week.

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So I just want to make sure that we don't have to do what we've had to do in the past, which is in the middle of the chaos, when traffic is at its worst, having to call Miami Dade County with an urgency because they're opening the bridge and traffic now comes to a standstill, and ambulances can get by and it creates a public safety situation.

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So just want to make sure that we're engaging in those conversations with Miami Dade County with DTPW early on.

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I know that sometimes the Coast Guard has to get involved.

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A couple of years ago, I think we had to reach out to Senator Ruvio and Senator Scott's offices to get to have them intervene.

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So I just want to make sure I don't want us to find ourselves stuck with a traffic nightmare with a bridge that's opening at 7 p.m.

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And if we need to ask them to reopen the bridges later for marine traffic, that we start asking for that early on.

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Absolutely, Commissioner, and happy to report that we've been working with the Coast Guard, and I've got good news.

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They they uh approved a temporary deviation of the bridge schedule for the East Venetian bridge.

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And this year we're actually starting the restrictions earlier.

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We're starting them from Monday, December 1st through Sunday, December 7th.

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So it's gonna the restrictions are going to be in place from 3 p.m.

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to 8 p.m.

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Uh during the the weekdays, and then on Saturday and Sunday, the restrictions will be in place from 3 p.m.

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to 7 p.m.

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Okay.

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What what excuse me?

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What good is it if it's just one bridge?

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I mean there's a there's a Venetian East and there's a Venetian West.

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So the the Coast Guard requires there to be um navigation uh abilities on one of the two bridges, either either the East Bridge or the West Bridge, but both would not be able to be unlocked down.

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But that doesn't really solve the problem if you know one bridge opens and one bridge doesn't.

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I mean, we're we're just what isn't that that's nothing.

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Yeah.

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I agree with it.

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I mean you might as well just open up both bridges then.

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No, please no.

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Well, it doesn't matter because the the the track they they both go up at the same time, right?

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Uh and so right, they're they're on the same schedule.

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But at least the would it be possible to maybe move it every 90 minutes?

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I mean that you know, for both bridges, that's a little bit more practical, you know, and and try to maybe solve the problem or hour.

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You mean well, during certain hours, the East Bridge will not open at all.

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And we want to keep that on the East Bridge, we want to make sure that that does not open it now between 3 and 8 p.m.

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Thank you, you got it to 8 p.m.

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Because in the past it would start opening at 7.

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And the traffic nightmare it would cause is horrible.

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But to Commissioner Suarez's point, which is a very good point, if we keep uh the East Bridge on lockdown, the traffic is still gonna back up into our island.

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If the West Bridge is open, and to his point, if that one could at least be every 90 minutes, we're not saying a complete lockdown, but every 90 minutes it helps uh address the concern.

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Unless it's obviously unless I must imagine there's override if there's an emergency and it's you know marine patrol or there's a fire or there's an accident, I'm sure there's override for it.

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But if it's just enjoyment, um a charter, you know, it shouldn't be opening in the in the middle of this hectic traffic just for something non-emergency.

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We'll go back to the Coast Guard.

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They've been very reticent to acquiesce to the bridge lockdowns.

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The good news is the West Bridge is significantly taller than the East Bridge, and so there'll be more boat traffic that can go under that bridge without it having to go up.

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Okay.

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And also, although yes, it will cause backups into the city, at least there won't be a bridge open between our residents trying to get home from wherever they may be on Miami Beach.

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Um, although they will still have traffic.

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Have we asked the city of Miami to participate with us in asking the Coast Guard about that bridge opening on the West side because I believe that's their jurisdiction?

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Correct.

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Not the city of Miami.

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Um we have we've been working directly with Miami Dade County.

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For the West Bridge, we would probably need to bring in the city of Miami into the fold.

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And I think we should probably do that.

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Uh, because again, they suffer from the traffic as much as we do.

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Uh during Art Basel and Mr.

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Manager, I get what you're saying.

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It's a higher bridge, so the frequency of the openings is probably not as much.

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But still, it even if it opens just once, opening once at the wrong time could have catastrophic effect, domino effect into our islands.

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And there's going to be a lot of party charter boats that are you know that don't fit under that West Bridge.

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I mean, the West Bridge is not that much taller.

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I think it's maybe 10 feet, but but in terms of boat size with towers and antennas, really um it's nominal compared to the traffic that's going to be result from, like I said, art week party charters Commissioner Dominguez.

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We good?

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Yes.

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So uh move this item forward.

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Um we'll discuss it at five, or can we find the funding gap?

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Are there places or things that we can move around?

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Is there a sponsor that we can speak to sometimes on the trial leaders or sponsorships?

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Maybe one of those sponsorships can be to um fund the cost of the the taxis.

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We're we're having conversations with the art fairs uh for potential contributions or um advertisements and to try to offset some of the operational cost.

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Uh but uh still having those conversations.

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Okay.

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Um so I think we should probably leave it on the agenda.

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We'll discuss it um during the budget process.

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And if not, then at the next commission meeting, which would be the next fiscal year, uh, look for funding.

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Sounds good.

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Thank you.

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Let's call R5i.

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R5I is an order to the mayor, so the Commission of the City of My Beach Florida, amending chapter 82 of my beach city court entire public property by amending article three and title use of public property by amending division one entitled generally by creating section 82-74 thereof, entitled Plastic Related or Metalized Decorations Prohibited at Public Marinas, Marine Facilities, Parks and Beaches in order to deter harmful littering and protect Marine and Coastal Wildlife and provide for a Peter Subbility Calification and effective date.

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This is a second reading public hearing.

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It is item R5I.

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Commissioner Fernandez, co-sponsor of Commissioner Suarez and uh Commissioner Rosen-Gonzalez.

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Uh thank you, Mr.

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Mayor.

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And today we're considering a second reading this ordinance that I've sponsored together, as he mentioned with Commissioner Suarez, with Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez to prohibit plastic related and metalized decorations at our public marinas, uh, at our marine facilities, our parks and beaches.

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This ordinance builds upon our prior action, banning balloons, uh, and I think Commissioner Suarez, you sponsored that with Commissioner Magazine, one of your first actions as a city commissioner.

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Uh, and it reflects our consistent commitment to protect our marine and coastal environments.

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And while some items such as glitter and confetti, uh, the sequence and the streamers may seem harmless, they are deceptively disruptive, not to us, not to us, but clearly to our marine life.

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They scatter easily, they linger as microplastics, and too often they end up being ingested by sea turtles and birds and fish threatening fragile ecosystems that ultimately we want to protect as well.

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I just want to highlight clearly this item is not about discouraging celebration, but it is about ensuring that we that we encourage a type of celebration that maintains responsibility for our our natural resources.

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Um I think you all may re may recall the public testimony that Sophie Ringel did at the first reading.

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She brought this big bag of these plastic petals that were just thrown out on the beach for a wedding or an engagement, and then they never get picked up.

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And this is not a one-off thing.

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This happens all the time.

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People come here, they want to have a special location, and they don't realize that they are polluting our coastal community and they're threatening our natural resources when there are other alternatives, reusable decor, natural fibers, and other composable materials that are readily available.

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So this is a responsible uh piece of legislation, I believe, that protects us from microplastics, and I'm proud to move this item for adoption.

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Second.

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I have a question for the sponsor.

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Yes.

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Um, would you consider amending it to include ocean drive, which is you know, across the street from Lumitz Park and um and the the ocean, because a lot of the storefronts on Lumis Drive use um on Ocean Drive use um those fake flowers?

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I don't have an issue with I don't know if it becomes an issue with the title.

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Um I don't I think we might also be preempted if we have plastic in there.

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I mean, I I would be in favor of it.

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I'm just saying, legally speaking, can we prohibit plastic from uh a private I'm in favor of the amendment?

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If we can do it, I'm in favor.

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I think we have may have an issue with the title because the title did not address private property was only public facilities.

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But but are we allowed to preempt plastic on private property?

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But let me let me do the research on that.

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Perhaps to the sponsor and we pass this, and then we bring in, and you can bring another item uh for it, which I'll three of us.

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I believe together.

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Yeah.

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With Commissioner Bott and Fernandez.

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Yeah, the three of us can do it together.

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I you know, I don't want to be too onerous on the buildings because I think it's a little bit different, these decorations.

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While we may not like them, and they might be tacky, frankly speaking.

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They're not my style.

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They're not ending up on the beach, they're not ending up being consumed by the marine life.

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Uh, they're usually affixed to a pergola, they're affixed to canopies and that type of stuff.

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Uh, but if they are becoming uh pollutants, I'm happy to consider legislation on that.

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So motion and second.

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Uh motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

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It is a public hearing.

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I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience.

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Uh call a roll.

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Yes.

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Vice Mayor Magazine.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Fernandez.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Suarez.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Bach.

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He mumbles.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Dominguez.

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Yes.

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Minor.

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Yes.

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Motion carries uh the item is approved.

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That was item R5I.

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Thank you, colleagues.

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Thank you.

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Commissioner Fernandez, R5L.

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R5L is an orders of the mayor, so the Commission of the City might be front, I'm in Chapter Nati of the Mighty City Code, Solid Waste by Amending Article 4, and title private waste contractors by amending Division 4 and title specialty contractors by amending section 90-278 thereof and title fees and requirements, penalties for non-payment to make certain clarifications regarding the penalties payable for failure to pay collection fees and providing for repeater submarility codification and an effective date.

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This is a second reading public hearing.

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It is item R5L.

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Commissioner Bott.

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Yeah, this is just a very minor scrivener's error.

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It's a second reading.

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I move the item.

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Second.

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Call the vote.

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I have a motion by Commissioner Bott, seconded by Commissioner Suartes.

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It is a public hearing.

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I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience.

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Commissioner Bott.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

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Yes.

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West Mayor Magazine.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Dominguez.

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Commissioner Dominguez?

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Yes.

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Commissioner Fernandez.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Suarez.

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Yes.

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Mayor Minor.

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Yes.

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Motion carries the item is approved.

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That was item R5L.

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R7H.

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Mr.

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Mayor.

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Can I just do a quick point of personal privilege before I forget?

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I meant to do it earlier on it.

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It's very quick, I promise.

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I don't think I'd stop you even if I want no, of course.

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You can't stop me now.

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I just very quickly, the most important person in any one of these meetings besides the residents is the cameraman who is operating these cameras here.

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And that's Aaron, and it's his birthday today.

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And so I want to make sure he gets all of our right angles that we don't look chubby on camera.

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So I'm doing all of us a favor here.

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So I just want to take a moment and just wish Aaron a very happy birthday because he says through all of these meetings and through all of our bantering.

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Happy birthday.

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Thank you.

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That is uh that was well worth it.

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Yeah, I didn't know what you were gonna say.

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So uh our 7H.

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R7H is implement one year pilot program for one-way valet parking services at Bancho, R7H.

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Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez, Commissioner uh co-sponsor of Commissioner Suarez magazine and bot.

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Okay, so this was heard at the neighborhoods committee.

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I think we congratulate Will once again for this one-way valet drop-off.

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It's economic development, it solves the parking problem in North Beach and it prepares us for the construction of the 72nd Street Garage with a solution that I believe everybody is on board with.

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So um, if nobody has any questions, I will move the item.

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Second.

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Uh motion by Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez on R7H.

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All in favor, please say aye.

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Aye.

8:25:30

Aye.

8:25:30

Anyone opposed?

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Hearing none, R7H is approved 70.

8:25:36

R5N.

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R5N is an ordinance of the mayor of City Commission of the City of Miami Beach Forward, amending the code of the City of Miami Beach, so part B and titled land development regulations by amending chapter two of the Miami Beach Resiliency Code and title administration and review procedures, Article 2.

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It titled General Development Application and Hearing Procedures by Amending Section 2.2.4.

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Entitled Public Hearing to Modify Public Notice Requirements for Land Use Board Applications and Provided for Codification Repeater Soviet and Effect update.

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This is a first reading public hearing.

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The item requires five sevenths vote.

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It is item R5N.

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Commissioner.

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Thank you.

8:26:14

Tom, if you want to take it away.

8:26:15

Sure.

8:26:15

This is a pretty straightforward amendment to Chapter 2 of the LDRs.

8:26:20

And what it does is it sets forth actual notice requirements for canceled or rescheduled land use board meetings.

8:26:29

Currently, we have some rules that we follow regarding carrying these items over.

8:26:35

This basically clarifies those procedures and sets up the uh requirement for a five-day courtesy notice uh online for any items that were either not heard or if the meeting was canceled.

8:26:51

Move the item.

8:26:57

Seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

8:26:59

Uh it is a public hearing.

8:27:00

No one on Zoom, no one in the audience, Commissioner Suarez.

8:27:03

Yes.

8:27:03

Commissioner Dominguez.

8:27:05

Yes.

8:27:05

Vice Mayor Magazine.

8:27:06

Yes.

8:27:07

Commissioner Bott.

8:27:08

Yes.

8:27:09

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

8:27:12

Yes.

8:27:13

Commissioner Fernandez.

8:27:14

Yes.

8:27:15

Mayor Minor.

8:27:15

Yes.

8:27:16

Motion carry second reading public hearing scheduled for October 29th.

8:27:19

R50.

8:27:22

R5O is an order to the Mayor City Commission of the City Bound B beach forward, amending the code of the City Bank Beach, so part B entitled land development regulations by amending chapter 1 of the Miami Beach Resiliency Code entitled General Provisions.

8:27:33

Article 2 Definition of Section 1.2.1 entitled general definitions by adding a definition for habitual offender by amending chapter 2 of the Miami Beach Resiliency Code and title administration and review procedures.

8:27:44

Article 4 and title Amendments to Comprehensive Plan and to the Text of the Land Development Regulations by amending section 2.4.1 entitled generally to establish procedures to address outstanding violations, fines, fees, or other open bills for applications to amend the land development regulations or the comprehensive plan and providing for codification repeaters of ability and effective date.

8:28:02

This is the first meeting public hearing.

8:28:04

The item requires 57th vote.

8:28:06

It is item R50.

8:28:07

Commissioner Fernandez.

8:28:09

Thank you, Mr.

8:28:09

Mayor.

8:28:10

And the idea here is very simple.

8:28:12

If you want to request a zoning change, if you want to benefit from zoning incentives, you should be in compliance with the existing rules and with the existing code of the city of Miami Beach first.

8:28:24

This adds a new layer of accountability to our LDRs by requiring applicants to resolve any outstanding violations, fines, unpaid fees before their zoning or comprehensive plan amendments can be considered.

8:28:41

It also introduces a new definition of who is an abitual offender.

8:28:47

Someone with three or more adjudicated violations in the past three years related to zoning, relating to building, relating to life safety codes.

8:28:56

If you're not respecting our city, if you are a negligent property owner, if you're not adhering to the regulations we've put in place for for our city, then you should not be benefiting from extra zoning incentives that have been approved by by our city commission.

8:29:16

This is a fair and consistent approach that encourages compliance.

8:29:21

It discourages bad actors, and it ensures that our zoning incentives are earned and that they are secured for responsible property owners.

8:29:31

Because what we never want is for someone to purposefully abandon their property, accumulate violations for the purpose of coming in and then saying I need these incentives.

8:29:45

That we cannot do.

8:30:00

And with that, I move my item.

8:30:01

Mr.

8:30:02

Director, I don't know if there's anything that you would like to add.

8:30:04

You covered it all.

8:30:06

And uh, Mr.

8:30:08

Attorney, um, with this ordinance for how long, how long of a period do they need to be in compliance of us not being an habitual offender in order to be able to benefit from zoning incentives?

8:30:23

So they could have no open violations, no open bills due to the city at the time they submit their application for an amendment to the code.

8:30:33

So everything would have to be resolved.

8:30:37

I have a question.

8:30:39

Commissioner Bothing, Commissioner Swarez.

8:30:42

Nick, could you does um zoning violations include CUP violations?

8:30:46

So somebody had noise violations repeatedly.

8:30:50

Yes, uh a violation of a CUP is a violation of the LDRs.

8:30:54

And they cannot have had more than three or more adjudicated violations in the past three years, is that correct?

8:31:02

If they did, they would be considered an habitual offender.

8:31:04

And then they and when they're considered an obitual offender, then they could not benefit from these zoning incentives and changes.

8:31:14

Um that's something I can work with you on between first and second reading.

8:31:19

But what um to the vice mayor, what happens if they sell the property to another entity and that entity technically doesn't have does it run with the property or well, another thing is let's say this uh developer owns multiple properties.

8:31:33

On one hand, he has a property in North Beach, um, it's becoming blighted, but he has another property in South Beach that he wants to develop.

8:31:42

Does that does that does this law go into effect?

8:31:46

So the any um so the the issues would run with the property, not with the owner.

8:31:51

So if you had um if you had multiple if you had open violations on a property uh you and the property changes hands, all of those violations would have to be resolved before you could submit an application to a private application to amend the code.

8:32:06

What if you're an habitual what if you're labeled a habitual offender?

8:32:09

Well, so that goes to to Commissioner Fernandez's question, and uh and um it that kind of an amendment to our code right now would be implicated by Senate Bill 180.

8:32:21

So are we even able to to pass this through?

8:32:24

You can pass this because this is saying that prior to submitting anything, um any private application to amend the code uh moving forward, that you have to resolve any outstanding uh city code violations, which right now we don't have that provision in the code.

8:32:38

I th I think if the sponsor is willing, I uh we need to make this stronger because I mean there is a well-known developer who just did exactly that um and the and the Morellos at the Doville site.

8:32:50

I mean that site was left years uh blighted on purpose.

8:32:54

Yeah.

8:32:55

So and if they own another property, I don't think that they should benefit from any sort of upzoning changes if they um are blighting uh another property and and the last thing we need is as a landlord who has multiple properties in Miami Beach.

8:33:12

Blighting one to get favors or up zones on another.

8:33:17

So I think it should run with the the principal owners to to make it stronger.

8:33:23

I couldn't agree more with you, Commissioner Suarez.

8:33:25

The and the idea was to establish a minimum waiting period after all those fines and violations had been resolved before a transmittal hearing could occur at to the planning board on the requested zoning zoning changes.

8:33:42

Uh and I think if you're a bad property owner at one property, it's usually a behavior pattern that you'll probably be a bad property owner at another property, so this should extend across the board.

8:33:54

We can we can work with the sponsor on addressing other properties um that are under the same ownership, but we could not impose a waiting, a waiting period is is a moratorium, and that would be impacted by Senate Bill 180.

8:34:08

So then what teeth does this have?

8:34:10

Well, this would address the the situation you mentioned, Commissioner, um, which is a a developer that had outstanding code violations would not have been able to even submit that initial private application to amend the code until all of those violations and all of those fines were paid.

8:34:27

So this does address that that particular situation you mentioned.

8:34:31

Right.

8:34:31

And then but that's a good step.

8:34:35

That's a good step forward, but what I don't want to happen, but that's exactly what happened to Doville, right?

8:34:40

They once they realize that they want to have a an upzoning incentive, don't rush.

8:34:46

They they just go ahead and they went ahead and they pay the fines.

8:34:49

And then we had to be saddled with you know years of neglect of a property.

8:34:54

So I certainly welcome between first and second reading to see how we can make this stronger to really change the behavior uh of these landlords and these developers.

8:35:04

And I want to make it clear, the original intent was of this ordinance was for it to create that moratorium.

8:35:12

Not just paid the fines.

8:35:13

Because sometimes the fines, we all know that it that just becomes the cost of doing business.

8:35:18

But having to hold on to the property and not being able to fully maximize on the property because you violated the code, that is the real penalty on the property owner.

8:35:30

That is the real what would truly discourage them.

8:35:33

And so when we created or when we initiated this item, it was exactly that intent that the Commissioner Suarez is mentioning, but you're saying that because of the state law, Senate Bill 180, we can't impose in essence that moratorium now.

8:35:48

That's correct, Commissioner.

8:35:49

The original draft that we that we had uh prepared for you included the uh the moratorium provision.

8:35:55

Unfortunately, it had to be revised after Senate Bill 180 was signed into law.

8:35:59

And if this legislative session, Senate Billy gets amended, we can bring this back.

8:36:05

You could bring you could bring back an amendment to do just that.

8:36:10

Well, let me let me ask you this.

8:36:13

Can't we adopt this with that with that language in there already so that whenever SB 180 gets amended or whenever it expires, so we don't have to start anew with a new piece of legislation.

8:36:26

It's already in the books that upon the expiration of SB 180 or any such amendments that that moratorium go into play.

8:36:36

Unfortunately, the legislature drafted 180, so it prohibits us from it prohibits you as a body from from proposing or enacting an ordinance that that is more restrictive.

8:36:47

So I I would not I unfortunately you can't do that right now, but you could bring one back if the legislature amends the law.

8:36:55

Okay.

8:36:56

I'd like to be out of it as a co-sponsor.

8:36:58

Thank you.

8:37:00

With that, I move my item.

8:37:02

Second.

8:37:06

Although it is a public hearing, no one on Zoom, no one in the audience requesting to speak.

8:37:10

Motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, who is also listed as a co-sponsor.

8:37:15

Vice Mayor Magazine.

8:37:16

Yes.

8:37:17

Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

8:37:19

Yes.

8:37:20

Commissioner Bach.

8:37:22

Yes.

8:37:22

Commissioner Suarez.

8:37:23

Yes.

8:37:24

Commissioner Fernandes.

8:37:25

Yes.

8:37:25

Commissioner Dominguez.

8:37:26

Yes.

8:37:27

Mayor Minor.

8:37:28

Yes.

8:37:31

That was item R50.

8:37:34

R9Z.

8:37:39

R9Z is discussed, take action, sidewalk repair program updates.

8:37:45

Yeah, I put on this item.

8:37:46

I've gotten a lot of inquiries about our upgrading our sidewalks.

8:37:50

We've we've heard it at uh recent forums as well.

8:37:53

I think it's worth discussing, and I know we've had some extensive conversations about it, Eric.

8:37:58

Um, I know there's a lot of work being done, and I thought it behooves us to let the public know what we're we're doing to address uh our sidewalks.

8:38:05

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commission.

8:38:08

I have a very short presentation that just might help give some graphic representation of what I talk about.

8:38:13

Um if you pull up that presentation, please.

8:38:16

Uh next slide.

8:38:19

So we have about 200 miles of sidewalk that we maintain.

8:38:22

We've talked about colors, we have the Miami Beach Red, the traditional gray sidewalk, and we have about 5,000 ADA ramps throughout the city that we maintain.

8:38:30

The main instigator behind the sidewalk maintenance program is ADA compliance.

8:38:36

We want to make sure that our sidewalks can be traversed in a wheelchair, people can walk without tripping.

8:38:43

So that's really what we're focusing on.

8:38:46

Sidewalks are part of our asset management program, which includes all of our assets.

8:38:51

In 2017, we did our first sidewalk assessment with Jacobs, and then five years later, we did an update to that assessment in 2022, and we will be due for another assessment in 2027 at a five-year increment.

8:39:09

Uh next slide, please.

8:39:12

So these are ranked on a sidewalk condition index, similar to a pavement condition index that we do for the streets, and then we have a network priority index that basically prioritize where the sidewalk is going.

8:39:25

Uh routes to school might qualify as more important than other routes, and then we weight that the 60 to 40 percent uh wait for the priority ranking score.

8:39:38

So here's the graph.

8:39:40

I'm sorry, the table between 2017 and 2022, you can see a significant improvement in the average rating, average condition, a decrease from 22 miles of poor sidewalk to a half a mile, and a decrease in the moderate from 54 miles to 1.6 miles.

8:40:00

So that's a great improvement over that five-year period.

8:40:04

And that is due to the amount of funding that the commission has granted the department to make those improvements and replacements.

8:40:13

The geobond funding, the first draw into 2019 was 3.5 million, and again in 2023, another 3.5 million.

8:40:23

In addition, there's been miscellaneous funding through the general fund to do sidewalks.

8:40:28

The pie chart there gives a demonstration of the areas where the sidewalks were replaced.

8:40:34

It's pretty evenly distributed between the north, mid, and south beach areas.

8:40:40

You can see South Beach has a little more money, but uh there are a lot more sidewalks in that area.

8:40:49

And this just talks about uh the funding we do have about 1.5 million left from the 2023 challenge.

8:40:56

And then this is gonna be too small to see, but it is basically a chart of uh different areas that we've done the sidewalks in.

8:41:05

And that's all I have public comment there.

8:41:08

Well, thank you so much.

8:41:09

What's currently being done to our uh to address and improve our sidewalks?

8:41:14

Current projects that we have?

8:41:17

No, not specific projects, just to give me an overview.

8:41:20

I I think uh I mean I was talking to Eric, and maybe I'll turn to Eric as well.

8:41:24

We did a I know a sidewalk assessment recently, if you can just talk about that, either one of you.

8:41:29

Yep, that was done in 2022.

8:41:31

That will be done again in 2027.

8:41:34

Like I said, we still have about 1.5 million dollars from the Geo Bond to make additional improvements prior to that reassessment in 2027.

8:41:44

So is that actively being done?

8:41:47

Yes, we are actively doing sidewalk projects.

8:41:49

I don't have the exact locations with me right now.

8:41:52

Okay.

8:41:55

Any questions?

8:41:56

Yeah, could you go back to the slide where you show the improvements since the last time you did the I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

8:42:04

The the graph that showed had the little red pluses and minuses on it.

8:42:10

So based on that, there's 2.1 miles of poor or moderate distress sidewalks in the city.

8:42:21

Currently there's one half mile of poor plus moderate distress is not.

8:42:26

Oh, yes, I see what you're saying, yes, 2.1 combined.

8:42:29

I mean uh I I'd love to learn how that's quantified because just in you know, from 65th Street to 75th Street, North Beach, um on Collins and parts west.

8:42:44

I would suggest that those sidewalks are in pretty rough shape.

8:42:50

And I reviewed some of that from that walkthrough, and a lot of that is utility cuts that have probably been done since this assessment, which are actively being requested to be replaced and repaired.

8:43:01

Cracking does not necessarily make it a poor or a moderate sidewalk.

8:43:06

It's more the height of the trip hazard that's going to classify it as being poor.

8:43:11

So we we've had, I mean, cracking, there is cracking and there's cracking, right?

8:43:17

There's cracking that's just a little bit of a you know unsightly, but uh you know, I have a friend who broke her foot on a cracked sidewalk.

8:43:27

Um funny thing then.

8:43:31

Um and so I uh 2022, three years ago, we've got another assessment coming in 27, you said?

8:43:41

Yes, ma'am.

8:43:42

Uh you know, these are streets that are literally adjacent to the ocean, so they take the the biggest brunt of things.

8:43:48

There's dispute between whether it's a city-owned responsibility or county-owned responsibility or state-owned responsibility, depending on where the sidewalk is.

8:43:57

The whole red versus not red discussion plays into this because it wears differently.

8:44:02

Um I I think I think more needs to be done proactively to address these issues.

8:44:12

Um it goes back to, you know, when three three of us were running as neophyte candidates.

8:44:20

Um, somebody who's in the race with us kept saying that he wanted Miami Beach to be held to a Disney World standard.

8:44:26

Um he wasn't talking about the politics.

8:44:28

He was talking about the cleanliness.

8:44:30

Um it's unrealistic to do that in an actual living breathing city, but the impact that the state of the sidewalks has on the perception of the how well cared for the city is.

8:44:46

It may not be an accurate statement, but it's the perception.

8:44:51

The first two images that you showed of those beautiful pristine sidewalks.

8:44:55

I'm like, where in the hell in the city are those?

8:44:57

And I'm sure it didn't last very long because they get used hard.

8:45:01

But you know, you go to other smaller cities or other cities with different priorities, and the sidewalks look different.

8:45:08

You know, we've made great strides as a commission.

8:45:10

We've bought gun cleaning machines, and we got power washing crews out doing their thing, and we're talking in all kinds of different areas about how to make the sidewalks look better and be more easily maintainable.

8:45:22

The fact that um utility cuts come in and don't get cleaned up or don't get finished, or you know, well, they're they're gonna come back and finish this next week, turns into six months down the road.

8:45:32

Like all of this plays into it.

8:45:34

And I I think there needs to be like a comprehensive um policy of how we're gonna deal with this more than you know, doing a review every seven years or whatever it ends up being every five years.

8:45:46

Um it's pretty bad.

8:45:50

And one of the items that hopefully we'll get to after five is this request to do a comprehensive review block by block in North Beach, including but not limited to the state of the sidewalks because you know, I've sent you pictures, I've send poor Hernan gets pictures from me.

8:46:06

Tom Curator when he was on Incode gets pictures from me constantly, not to mention the stuff that I send to the to the app to get fixed of things that have been cut, things that have been cracked, things that have been abandoned, things that that are tripping hazards, things that you know, somebody could break their ankle because they could just step into the hole that's there.

8:46:22

I I feel like we really need to do something more comprehensive and do do an sooner than 2027 inventory to address where we are and how we can mitigate some of these issues.

8:46:35

It might make sense to move the assessment up given that we've done spent so much money upgrading the sidewalks in the last few years.

8:46:44

It might actually make sense to then move that up to well, we're already looking at FY26 budget, but if we can fit it in there, you know, we've done so much so we can update all of that information.

8:46:57

And we see that a lot with the pavement assessment.

8:46:59

When we've had a lot of utility projects happen, we want to put that new data in and see where that takes the PCI.

8:47:06

Same situation here.

8:47:07

We might want to reassess and just see where everything is at this point, because 2022 was a long time ago based on how much work we've done.

8:47:15

And and I I think it also needs to be done in a way that you can say, you know, in this neighborhood, all the sidewalks are great.

8:47:21

In this neighborhood, it's disastrous, and we need to focus focus holistically to get this neighborhood up to snuff.

8:47:27

And also, we need to hold the utilities and private developers responsible for coming in and cleaning their stuff up immediately and not waiting, not giving them six weeks, but like fix it now, and if you finish it now, and if you have to go back in, you go back in.

8:47:42

But you know, the even as stuff as minor as the spray paint that marks where things are gonna go is supposed to wash off within a certain amount of time.

8:47:49

And uh, you know, it's there forever, it feels like.

8:47:53

Yeah, those last two items are two of the largest challenges getting utility companies to do restoration on their cuts and the utility markings, and basically having the ability to follow up and actually get them to take care of those and mitigate those issues.

8:48:08

But don't we don't we close out their permits?

8:48:10

I mean, don't we review their stuff before we say, okay, you're good here?

8:48:13

Yes, and so what's the what is that process currently and what should it be, and how can we make it better?

8:48:18

Yep, I'll have to look into that, see how we can improve that process to make sure that uh anybody that has a permit, they're getting restored, but there might be outliers that maybe we don't know about, might be uh FDOT, might be county roads.

8:48:32

So I'm gonna look into how we can work with the other agencies to make sure these things are and it might be um private developers.

8:48:39

I mean, there's one building that went up in North Beach that you know took away parking spots, took away a bike lane, took away sidewalks, and some of those are being replaced, and some of them aren't.

8:48:47

And you know, it's like the developers like oops, so sorry.

8:48:51

So I I mean, if if we can hold this over until next um commission meetings in you know six weeks or whatever it ends up being, the 29th, would you be able to come back with an update on specifically those issues?

8:49:03

Yes, certainly can.

8:49:04

Would that be okay with you, Mr.

8:49:06

Mayor?

8:49:06

Yes.

8:49:07

And the good news, John, you and your wife and kids moved to North Beach, so you'll be around to uh check out the walk a lot around there.

8:49:12

So where what what part uh 76 in Collins?

8:49:16

Nice.

8:49:16

Yep.

8:49:17

So we love it there, but uh yes, I do see the sidewalks uh all around that area.

8:49:21

Well, any day you you want to go for a walk in North Beach, I can show you some of my favorite aerolict corners.

8:49:27

Absolutely.

8:49:27

Sounds good.

8:49:28

Sorry to rat you out there.

8:49:30

No problem.

8:49:31

Thank you.

8:49:32

Uh thank you very much.

8:49:32

And Mr.

8:49:33

Mayor, if I could just add a little bit of color, um, we we do have challenges sometimes with utility companies that want to do a bunch of work all at the same time and not do the restoration except in bunches.

8:49:47

And so historically, what we've done is we've limited the number of open permits that will allow for a utility company at any given time.

8:49:55

So that they've got to come back through and close out permits so that they can open new ones.

8:50:02

That way we're pushing them to close out permits because otherwise there's really no incentive.

8:50:08

You know, it it's crazy.

8:50:09

There's um I take my dogs out for walks every day, and there's one path that we go regularly that um utility company came in and dug up the poles because they think they're replacing them.

8:50:20

I'm not even sure what they're doing up there, but there's markings all over the place.

8:50:23

The the poles have been dug up, so there are open holes in the ground that are big enough in the dirt, big enough that you could bury a small family in there.

8:50:34

And there's they're surrounded with little barricades, which is great, but you know, things happen to barricades, they move people, trip, whatever.

8:50:40

And it's been, and I thought, okay, well, they must be doing this imminently, it must be very soon because that seems like a terribly unsafe situation.

8:50:47

Um we have a lot of flooding there.

8:50:48

I can't imagine that's good for anybody.

8:50:50

It's been at least six weeks, if not longer.

8:50:53

I I mean it's crazy.

8:50:55

Like if you're doing something that drastic, if you're spray painting, that's one thing.

8:50:58

If you're doing the thing where you're digging up the holes, like I would expect you to be back next week with the poles going into the holes.

8:51:04

Uh you know, it's uh private private property owners wouldn't do it this way.

8:51:10

I don't understand why it's okay for utility companies to do it this way.

8:51:14

Commissioner, uh I I've actually talked to uh City Manager Public Works uh for some time about this.

8:51:20

Happy to kind of uh uh co-sponsor an item in front of my street on West Avenue.

8:51:26

FPL is destroyed.

8:51:28

It looks like a third world country.

8:51:31

And they go, well, we we closed our permit out, we repaved over the part that we destroyed.

8:51:38

I'm talking they've repaved half of a lane.

8:51:41

Well, you know, we we've resurfaced the lanes.

8:51:46

There's stuff, it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere, anywhere, and it will not be acceptable Miami Beach.

8:51:53

What they did FPL in front of South Point Elementary School, it looked like a third world country where we have children coming and scooting on their scooters, and we have differences in the street in front of a public elementary school this deep.

8:52:10

Somebody could have gotten killed, right?

8:52:13

And our taxpayers just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars repaving West Avenue from 5th to 8th Street.

8:52:20

They came, they dug it up, they destroyed, they said, Ah, we we we did our duty.

8:52:25

This company makes ten billion dollars in revenue per year, four and a half billion dollars of net profit per year, and they can't repave our roads that they destroyed.

8:52:36

It's a disgrace.

8:52:37

Can I just say one thing?

8:52:38

A lot of the markings, thank you.

8:52:40

A lot of the markings that you see happen to be Crown Castle, which is federal, and they have a a federal and state preemption, it's a double preemption for 5G polls.

8:52:49

So when you see those markings on the sidewalks, and we had a big to-do about this.

8:52:53

Do you remember?

8:52:53

It's it's we're preempted completely.

8:52:56

There's nothing that we can do about it, and that's why you see uh a lot of those markings.

8:53:00

It might not be um FPL.

8:53:02

I think a lot of it happens to be 5G and Crown Castle.

8:53:05

No, I get that.

8:53:06

I'm talking about where FPL literally dug up our street that we had just paved two years ago and comes back on the street.

8:53:15

I I appreciate what you're saying, and I'm fully aware that we're dealing with that issue as well.

8:53:20

But I'm talking very specifically uh coming in in FPO uniforms uh and digging up the street and then partially repaving it in a turn lane, they partially repaved half of a turn lane.

8:53:35

Who would do that?

8:53:37

Who who if that was in front of the president of FPL's house, do you think they ever would have left it like that?

8:53:42

Absolutely not.

8:53:44

Okay, the little splatters of tar go on for blocks.

8:53:48

It's a disgrace.

8:53:50

And I'm gonna bring an item.

8:53:52

I go, I drive past it, I say I'm embarrassed.

8:53:56

There's a resident.

8:53:57

And I go, who could I call?

8:54:00

You know what?

8:54:00

Me.

8:54:01

So I'm going to do something about it.

8:54:05

Um, Ralph, I'd like to co-sponsor this item.

8:54:08

And this is a tangential, but just because I keep thinking about it when I drive over them and I keep forgetting to ask you, what is going on with the fire station on 70 uh 69th and um Collins where all those big giant metal plates are that have been there for weeks.

8:54:23

So I believe that is the sewer main project, John.

8:54:26

You want to talk about yes, that's a force main project coming out of uh one of our pump stations.

8:54:33

We're currently working with the contractor.

8:54:35

He has to do a renewal of a uh permit with Durham, and we're also trying to revise his MOT plan to have minimum number of closures for that project.

8:54:46

However, the force main is in the southbound right lane, so there will be some overnight closures, but we're really trying to figure out how we can minimize those closures.

8:54:56

So we have a meeting next week with contractor to go over his plan.

8:55:00

And what's going on with the the plates that are there?

8:55:02

I mean, they those things, there's a lot of wiggle in them, and there's a lot of traffic going over them.

8:55:06

And uh, you know, uh is there something safer that can happen there?

8:55:10

No, it it actually everything has been backfilled at this point.

8:55:13

That was the reason for the closure being left during the day.

8:55:17

The situation was not safe.

8:55:19

So we actually had the contractor backfill with dirt, so the holes are filled, those plates are just covering the compacted dirt right now.

8:55:27

Okay.

8:55:28

And you know, they'll be that way for a little while until uh he resumes uh progress.

8:55:34

How is it that somebody who is in the middle of a project is in a situation where they have to renew a permit, you said?

8:55:41

Okay.

8:55:43

We don't know.

8:55:44

We're we're trying to get to the bottom of that, but uh there was some oversight and renewal of the permit, so he had to reapply for that renewal after it expired.

8:55:52

I mean, it it's bad enough when a personal, you know, a contractor that is working on somebody's home suddenly can't do anything because their their insurance is lapped.

8:56:00

I'm like, yeah, how's that even possible?

8:56:03

Because you know you need insurance to operate here.

8:56:05

That's why you can't log in and close out your permits.

8:56:07

But if it's a if it's a city vendor, like does that vendor then get a ding against them so we don't use them again until they get their act together?

8:56:15

Or like how do we as part of your due diligence coming back next next month on the sidewalks?

8:56:21

Can you talk about that part of the process too?

8:56:23

Because even though it's not literally on a sidewalk, it's still the same kind of a vendor doing the same kind of work, and I think all this stuff plays into it.

8:56:31

It's it's uh point along the continuum of frustrations.

8:56:35

Certainly.

8:56:36

Thank you.

8:56:36

I appreciate that.

8:56:37

If I can raise one more issue, uh a resident recently uh brought up to me.

8:56:41

Kind of uh tangentially related to sidewalks is we have sometimes uh let's say a pilot program, we have these signs, no left turns or or little stop signs, but then they get put on the side of the sidewalks, but unfortunately they kind of end up cluttering because they're only used a few hours out of the day.

8:56:56

Is there something else we can do?

8:56:58

Just not a great look.

8:56:59

I've had some residents mention it to me.

8:57:01

If I can piggyback on that, Mr.

8:57:02

Mayor.

8:57:03

At least another item that will be coming and what is my biggest peppy?

8:57:07

These digital how do you what are they?

8:57:11

Variable message signs.

8:57:13

Variable message signs garbage.

8:57:15

Absolute garbage.

8:57:16

They make our city look so low class, right?

8:57:20

I saw one that was in the middle of Alton Road where tens of thousands of people enter and exit our city.

8:57:26

It was turned to the side in the median for weeks and months on end.

8:57:31

I had one in front of uh West Avenue for years, and nobody knew who whose it was.

8:57:36

It was just there, right?

8:57:37

So we use these, we put them out in case we have to display some sort of message that uh there's traffic up ahead.

8:57:46

It is the bang is not worth the buck.

8:57:49

I'm gonna bring an item to reduce it to the absolute bare minimum uh because they do not make our city look like the city.

8:57:56

Certainly wouldn't see it in Disney World.

8:57:58

I promise you that.

8:58:01

Okay.

8:58:02

So for the record, R9Z is being open, it's being continued to October 29th with Commissioner Bott and Dominguez as co-sponsors.

8:58:09

Sounds good.

8:58:10

Thank you.

8:58:16

Yeah.

8:58:17

R7C.

8:58:19

R7C is a resolution of the Bangor City Commission of the City of Mayor Beach, Florida adopting one, the tentative add the Laura millage of 5.870, 5.8702 mills for fiscal year 2026 for general operating purposes, which is six and five tenths percent more than the rollback rate of 5.5114 mills.

8:58:38

And two, the debt service military rate of 0.2779 mills, subject to a second public hearing to consider the millet rate for fiscal year 2026 on Tuesday, September 30th, 2025 at 501 p.m.

8:58:51

This is a public hearing, R7C.

8:58:54

I guess I think you said it isn't like this thing.

8:59:02

Uh thank you, Mayor.

8:59:04

We're gonna do if okay, we're gonna do uh a PowerPoint uh presentation first, and then we'll take it into each individual item as its own individual vote.

8:59:11

Big thing today, the PowerPoints.

8:59:13

Power Yes, Mayor, thank you.

8:59:16

So we'll bring that up.

8:59:17

Uh so just before I let uh Tamika get started.

8:59:20

Um this continues, we're kind of at the at the tail end of a very long budget process that started for staff back in December uh and started with the commission at the May retreat.

8:59:30

And a lot of the heavy lift really was at the June and July uh commission meetings.

8:59:35

Uh I'm sorry, uh but uh budget workshops where we really hashed out a lot of the individual details.

8:59:41

So what we're gonna go through here in this hearing is really kind of give us a recap of where we landed um when we closed out July and some changes that happened in August.

8:59:51

Um at the very end kind of slide there, we will um discuss where we landed with everything with an additional surplus.

9:00:00

So just to give a little bit of a hit there is the items there, there are eight items of the commission that's asked to find additional funding, and we we were able to locate that.

9:00:07

So we're gonna go through that.

9:00:08

So we're gonna hope to have keep all our questions and and and if there's any changes or adjustments really towards that end, and then we'll we'll tackle that way.

9:00:15

But I'll let Tamika get started.

9:00:22

Okay.

9:00:23

Asking us a better answer.

9:00:24

Tamika, if you want to get started.

9:00:26

All right, so good afternoon, Tamika Stewart, budget director, and we can go to the next slide.

9:00:31

So just wanted to start off by saying during the summer recess, uh, our office went ahead and prepared the overall operating budget book and two volumes of a capital book.

9:00:42

So those should have been delivered to you uh September 2nd.

9:00:45

So I hope you all had a chance to read those books.

9:00:48

They're quite hefty.

9:00:49

Which perhaps will be the last year given one of the efficiencies that I saw.

9:00:53

They cost $30,000 to deliver those.

9:00:56

What?

9:00:57

$13,000.

9:00:59

So that's one of our recommendations to stop printing those books, and we also print them for the departments as well, but they are available online, and so anybody in the public who wants to see the books, they're available online.

9:01:10

Next slide.

9:01:12

So we wanted to look at the overall combined budget, and this slide shows the history.

9:01:17

We actually dropped off 2015 because those you know, slide doesn't have space, but two, you know, in two consecutive years back in 15 and 16, we did go over a billion dollars in our overall budget.

9:01:29

Uh this year we are hitting that over 1 billion dollar mark.

9:01:34

Uh I want to point out though that the major increase in the budget is on the capital side, which is the green bar that you see there.

9:01:41

Our capital budget is going up by 87% over last year.

9:01:45

We have taken into consideration your feedback both at the budget retreat that we had back in May and the two FERC meetings that we had.

9:01:53

We're trying to focus on renewal and replacement of our capital assets and funding our actual projects that we have that have gaps and any new projects that we could fund.

9:02:04

Our overall operating budget is increasing by 4.5%.

9:02:08

Uh, the general fund is going up by 6%, and we have a slide that details that more.

9:02:15

So, what we just show here is uh we had discussed I think back at the retreat, but just to give another update on this.

9:02:21

This is the full-time position trend over about the past uh decade, and that just shows that the commission's interest in in public safety.

9:02:28

So we see that the position head count has increased almost exclusively in the public safety uh arena, which we consider police, fire code, uh park rangers, homeless services, and the municipal prosecution team, I know, which was just discussed a little bit earlier today.

9:02:43

Uh the non-public safety positions only increased approximately 32 uh head count over that time frame, of which 10 are in the building department, and we know we've discussed a lot of that, and 10 are uh mostly grant funded through the house through the housing.

9:02:58

So that just shows again that there's been really uh kind of a hold on adding positions that are non-public safety, and that those funds are really going towards that public safety area.

9:03:09

So this goes to the slide I just uh mentioned, which is the overall general fund budget increase.

9:03:14

So we are going up by 27 million, 6%.

9:03:17

Uh but we wanted to break down where that 6% came from.

9:03:21

So some of it is inflation, the cost of doing business, and uh one of the major impacts is the collective bargaining agreements, mainly the ones that were approved last year.

9:03:30

Uh the we added 15 positions for the A plus day that was approved in the collective bargaining agreement, and this year we're seeing a full year impact.

9:03:38

Other than that cost of inflation, it's 12 million, which is 2.6%.

9:03:43

So had we not had the impact of the collective bargaining agreements, we would have been at 2.6% in the operating increase.

9:03:50

Um that's actually in line with the CPA that we're using in the budget for this year.

9:03:54

Uh we did have enhancements, 4.3 million dollars as discussed between the last couple of meetings that we had with the finance committee.

9:04:02

Off that 4.3, approximately 3 million is for public safety, primarily police and fire.

9:04:09

Uh we did have reductions in the budget process.

9:04:12

We did do our cuts before we brought those budget to the commission, and then subsequently we recommended efficiencies and efficient efficiencies were also recommended to us at the last meeting.

9:04:23

Those have been baked in.

9:04:25

That includes elimination of seven positions.

9:04:28

We are we we reallocated costs from the general fund to other enterprise funds, and then we did some right size and offer operating budget that would not have any public facing impacts.

9:04:38

And then we had one mid year appropriation in FY25 that has an impact on this next year's budget.

9:04:45

And then you'll see a huge increase, 4.6 million dollars in capital funding.

9:04:49

So again, this is what got us to having such an increase in the capital budget for FY26.

9:04:56

So this chart just builds on our goal of funding as many capsule projects as possible.

9:05:02

So this we actually have a goal of funding 5% of the overall general fund budget to for capital.

9:05:08

And this is dollars that were taken from the general fund budget, transferring to renewal and replacement, pay-go, um, information and technology funds to fund our capital projects.

9:05:18

And as you can see back in 22, we were uh well, our goal was to fund 17.7 million, we funded 5.2, which was 1.5%.

9:05:28

Uh last year we funded 3.3%, and based on the budget that we're proposing, we'd be at 4.1.

9:05:34

So we're well on our way to meeting that goal, hopefully by next year.

9:05:38

Many times at the end of the fiscal year, we do have some surplus, and our recommendation is always to transfer that to capital to actually meet that goal.

9:05:51

So this actually shows our property value, our property values increase by 6.9%.

9:05:56

You should be familiar with this slide.

9:05:58

Uh, it's uh it's good news, it's positive.

9:06:00

Uh, but I always want to remind that we are increasing, but we are increasing at a decreasing rate.

9:06:05

So we recommend being judicious on adding any recurring enhancements to the budget because we do see possibly slowdowns coming in the next couple of years.

9:06:17

And this chart shows our proposed millage rate.

9:06:20

Uh, compared to last year, we're proposing a flat millage rate of 6.1481.

9:06:25

We did make a recommendation during the budget process to transfer the debt service millage reduction that we're experiencing in FY26 over to capital renewal replacement and pay goal.

9:06:36

Again, this recommendation is what made it possible for us to increase or capital funding.

9:06:42

So that was accepted by the finance committee, and we built in a 900,000 increase in our transfers to capital based on that switch, but overall we're recommending a flat millage rate.

9:06:54

So we have here is a history going back to 2011, so about 15 years of the city's uh various millage rates.

9:07:02

Um, and the important thing to really uh show here is that our combined millage is around uh 5.5% less than it was in 2011, and our operating millage is 7.3% less than it was in 2011.

9:07:15

And you can see there we've had a uh a very steady over the past five or so years uh operating village, but the increases have really been related to capital.

9:07:24

So that's that light blue, and even the green related to uh the general obligation bond.

9:07:32

So when we met back in July at the second finance committee meeting, we had presented a balanced budget.

9:07:38

So we did have a surplus when we got the July one values, and we did recommend, as I mentioned before, some reductions, some one-time enhancements, some recurrent enhancements.

9:07:49

That revenue refinement that you see there of 4.5 million dollars is when we ended on the audit of the FY24 budget, we had some excess reserves over and above our 100% funding of our general fund reserves, and we recommend that we bring those dollars into the budget and appropriate them primarily for capital projects, and that was accepted as well, and then we did have some revenue refinements, which basically that 2.39 is what we did to transfer more over to the capital projects.

9:08:18

So we had a balanced budget, and then these are the updates since we met with you all in July.

9:08:24

So we started with a balanced budget, we did get some recommended reductions in the budget, and then we had some recurring enhancements, we did have some revenue refinements and then expenditure refinements.

9:08:36

So I'm gonna go through the details of the next slides that explain these numbers, but we are presenting a balanced budget as required by law.

9:08:44

We have here is a few recurring expenditure uh reductions and efficiencies.

9:08:48

Uh, one was eliminating the general fund portion of the uh employee wellness program, and we'll talk a little bit about more of that at the end.

9:08:56

Uh, there was a reduction of 120,000 dollars for eliminating additional uh commissioner aid, uh, which uh was uh requested by Commissioner Bach, which is ends up being a transfer to the sanitation fund to uh handle some uh additional pressure washing uh programs in a specific uh area of the city on Lincoln Road, and then uh the the rejection of the uh um reduction efficiency recommended by the administration related to reducing the senior program.

9:09:22

So that was put back into the budget.

9:09:26

And then recurring uh expenditure enhancements, uh, these are some of the elements that again were were added in July.

9:09:33

Uh so we have 129,000 for the extension of the wraparound uh tree lighting on 71st.

9:09:39

There again, this is the sanitation fund uh transfer uh going over to deal with the dedicated pressure washing on Lincoln Road from Washington the Collins and the finalizing of the recommended 26 uh living wage, and that comes to 261.

9:09:54

Right.

9:09:54

So this is actually where we got some revenues.

9:10:00

So on the resort tax side, we did have some savings, which we'll go through in the next couple of slides, but as a result of the saves in the resort tax fund, the resort tax fund was able to transfer more dollars to the general fund.

9:10:09

So the resort tax fund really could be transferring up to 196 million dollars to the general fund for the services we provide to the fund.

9:10:17

Right now, the budget has 41 million.

9:10:19

So whenever there is excess dollars in the resort tax fund, we transfer it to the general fund to assist with all our expenditures.

9:10:27

And then we did do some allocations of our admin fees at you know at the end of the budget process, and that brought in an additional $159,000, and that primarily comes from other funds toward the general fund.

9:10:39

So that gave us $457,000 more in revenues.

9:10:43

On the expenditure side, we actually had increased expenditures when internal service funds get balanced, their costs get allocated to all the funds.

9:10:51

So the general fund picked up $148,000.

9:10:54

And that $361 that you see there is our balancing number.

9:10:58

So as it is right now in the budget, we baked that in to increase or set aside for the general fund reserves.

9:11:04

So the general fund reserve requirement goes up each year with the budget because it is a three-month reserve based on the adopted budget.

9:11:11

So what we did is set aside that 361.

9:11:14

As Jason mentioned, we do have some excess funds, and this is one of the XX funds that would be possibly on the block to fund some additional projects.

9:11:26

So we'll go to the resort tax balancing again when we met back in July.

9:11:30

We proposed a balance budget.

9:11:33

Next slide.

9:11:38

So again, we had some recurrent efficiencies, and we'll go through the details of these slides.

9:11:44

Um, some adjustments to the expenditures, recurring um enhancements, revenue refinements, and again we're presenting a balanced budget.

9:11:52

So this $5,000 reduction is the resort taxes portion of the reduction to the wellness program that was approved by the FERC in July.

9:12:03

That freed up dollars in the resort tax fund.

9:12:06

Uh on the FIFA side, we're recognizing a million dollars of savings, and I'll be careful to explain this.

9:12:12

So we initially had recommended uh funding of $1.5 million.

9:12:16

That $1.5 was changed to $1.25.

9:12:20

And then the commission requested well through the agreement that we fund $750,000 in FY25.

9:12:27

So we did do a budget amendment on September 3rd to fund that portion.

9:12:31

So between the $250 that we reduced the allocation by and a $750 that was already appropriated in 25, we're reducing the 26th appropriation by a million dollars.

9:12:42

And then we had the seafood festival, which we had recommended for funding in the 26th budget, but the FERC actually asked us to unfund that.

9:12:50

So that actually released more funds in the resort tax fund.

9:12:54

But we're keeping it now because I think Commissioner Fernandez, who initially had a complaint as now met with the people from the seafood festival.

9:13:01

I I believe probably that will come up for discussion when we get to the end.

9:13:04

So we have a slide of possible options.

9:13:07

Um but as it stands right now, if no motion is made, it is not included in the budget right now.

9:13:12

So can oh, do we have to make a motion?

9:13:14

You want to say that?

9:13:15

I would suggest at the end, yeah, because we have a list of other projects.

9:13:19

Um and then this is a reduction of the 750 from the revenues.

9:13:24

We do not need to recognize that 750, it's already been appropriated in the FY25 budget.

9:13:30

And then there are also expenditures on their side for the internal service allocation and then transfer of dollars to the general fund.

9:13:41

Okay, so we're going to go through now kind of what I mentioned with some additional recommendations.

9:13:46

Uh just I'm going to go through this slide.

9:13:49

I'm going to have one or two more slides, and then we're going to come back to this one, which was where really the open, I think the open discussion will be.

9:13:56

So after all of those numbers kind of uh shook out as uh we went through the 361,000 plus uh we received notification of a children's trust grant that actually comes into the general fund partially that picked up 234,000 one-time money that uh leaves us with 595,000 to allocate.

9:14:14

Now, as remember, I mentioned that there were uh number of elements that were uh not funded as there wasn't the funding available back in July.

9:14:22

And the commission had requested to do our best if any dollars did kind of shake out to see if we could fund those.

9:14:28

Uh, two additional items were approved by commission on September 3rd, uh, directing us to uh see if we can get those also in the budget, and then we have two elements of ours.

9:14:37

So we'll maybe go through them individually and what the recommendation is.

9:14:40

Uh the first one was uh, and just as an element, all these elements we're recommending, uh other than the uh the the wellness item to be considered one time so that we can have a lower current service level for next year.

9:14:53

We can discuss these items again.

9:14:54

Uh but first is a transfer of $100,000 uh to the transportation fund, which were for uh maintenance of the green bicycle lanes, as we talked about.

9:15:00

Uh but first is a transfer of 100,000 uh to the transportation fund, which were for uh maintenance of the green bicycle lanes, as we talked about, we have some issues in transportation.

9:15:06

Uh we are requesting to add back partial funding on the contributions to the wellness program in the general fund of only 77,000 for more slimmed down and more efficient uh program.

9:15:18

Uh the 75,000 for the Miami Swim Week contribution.

9:15:22

Uh there these next two are elements in the September third meeting, $70,000 additional for Unidad's senior meals program, which would increase it from $280 to $350.

9:15:34

Uh Doors to Freedom Public Art Production Installation was requested to find funding of uh and that was of $50,000, uh, two transportation related ones uh that um were also one-time Jewish community services senior transportation program and dedicated uh mid-size bus service to enhance transportation of the senior centers, uh, and then $25,000 for uh League Against Cancer and $25,000 for Clean Miami Beach.

9:16:02

That would total $502,000, and the remaining balance of $93,000.

9:16:07

Uh there's a recommendation to partially fund uh enhancement number 31, which is the July 4th semi-quincentennial.

9:16:15

I have a question.

9:16:16

We went over the wellness program that was being slimmed down.

9:16:19

I know that that's something that the employees were very upset about.

9:16:23

Um, what do we need to do to get it back?

9:16:25

My understanding is that we had an app that was way overpriced, and if we take out the app but could keep the classes, um that's what I propose uh the commission considers.

9:16:36

And I completely agree with that.

9:16:37

I know the employees absolutely love this.

9:16:40

They love it.

9:16:41

They love it.

9:16:42

And I don't this is the type of stuff that is also keeping them healthy, which is preventative.

9:16:47

Uh so I am all for great for the morale for stress, yeah.

9:16:50

I'm all for yes, that that is that is the administration's uh recommendation.

9:16:54

So the slimmed down version is taking out the app but keeping the classes the same.

9:17:00

Uh I would ask HR maybe to get into some of the specifics, but uh my understanding is yes, we've heard some of those same things.

9:17:07

We believe that the important elements uh will be saved and we work to uh move those forward for the city.

9:17:14

Good afternoon, Marla El Pizar, HR director.

9:17:17

Hello, everyone.

9:17:18

Hello.

9:17:19

Our wellness program is multi-faceted.

9:17:22

I want to let you know that it is um quite well uh utilized and engaged.

9:17:29

Engagement is very high for our employees.

9:17:31

Of our 51%, um sorry, let me back up.

9:17:36

Of our eligible employees, 51% are using the wellness app.

9:17:41

What does the wellness app do?

9:17:43

It helps to provide a metric of data that drives wellness activities, wellness um content in order to improve each individual employees' health in the way that they choose to engage with the app.

9:18:00

Of our employees, 51% of the eligible are enrolled in the app, which is uh 739 employees.

9:18:10

Fifty 524 of these employees are um what can what are considered highly engaged employees?

9:18:18

70 percent of our employees involved in the wellness program are highly engaged.

9:18:23

What do they get for that?

9:18:24

They see the benefit of our um of the of the activities they're engaged in to improve their health.

9:18:32

We have been seeing in the interest of time, I want to ask the specific question.

9:18:36

So it sounds like you're not recommending to remove the app.

9:18:39

I was told that the app was three hundred thousand dollars, and that was the bulk of the cost, you know, and it was going to affect the number of exercise classes that the employees could have.

9:18:50

The $300,000 is not the cost of the app.

9:18:53

The cost of the app uh the personified contract was a uh subscription fee and an on-site coach.

9:19:00

That has been renegotiated.

9:19:03

And uh the two numbers for that were $74 and 61.

9:19:07

We have renegotiated that contract with Personify to an $88,000 number to be able to continue to use that app to help our employees engage in wellness.

9:19:17

Please understand that one of the main incentives for high uh engagement is what is called the high deductible health plans um uh uh HSA funding.

9:19:33

So if you're highly engaged, you get double at the end of the year the um uh HSA funding in order to be able to use that to support your health insurance costs and your health costs.

9:19:46

Um what's being removed?

9:19:50

So we are we were trying to keep almost all of the components of the health um the uh wellness program.

9:20:00

What do I mean by that?

9:20:01

We're trying to keep the app, we're trying to keep everything that is driving engagement, including a reduced amount of incentives.

9:20:07

We're keeping the health insurance um high deductible bonus if you are high.

9:20:13

But what's being taken away in the interest of time, what's being taken away?

9:20:16

What are the employees so upset about?

9:20:19

So one of the things that I understand that the employees are upset about is we have determined that one of the things that we would like to do with the scaled back program is to re- I don't want to use the word bid because it's not a bid, requote and re-engage with determining what is the best and um most efficient way of providing activities such as health classes and biometrics and corporate rent and all the things that we do that are activities, the classes being one of them.

9:20:52

We want to make sure that we're getting the most engaged um choice of activities that uh meet the most number of people.

9:21:01

Please understand that the current uh classes have a regular attendance of about 25 employees that do love these classes, and we're not saying that we wouldn't continue the classes, but we would want to make sure that we do uh maximize the engagement in the classes beyond just 25 people for how much money is being reduced from their program.

9:21:23

If I if I can just from a budgetary perspective, which for this is the budget hearing, is from the general fund perspective, it would go from 190,000 to 77,000.

9:21:33

So for 77,000 general fund contribution, we feel confident that we can deliver uh a most of this program and just a kind of a reimagined or you know, re-control.

9:21:43

Can we bring it up to 125?

9:21:46

We we're that's a drastic drop.

9:21:48

No wonder the employees are upset.

9:21:50

Well, I think the concern was the at the their concern was that the entire program, all of the elements were being eliminated.

9:21:56

We believe with the $77,000 general fund uh contribution.

9:22:00

It's really $165 across all funds, plus some external funds that we get that a majority of this program can be done.

9:22:06

We're just looking at it from a cost efficiency perspective about some things might be rebid out and things along those.

9:22:11

Some things are being renegotiated.

9:22:12

We deliver that most of those elements would still be delivered.

9:22:15

And from the feedback I've received from the employees, they value the classes more than what they value the app.

9:22:21

So I just you know, this is feedback that I've been getting from the people that use the classes.

9:22:27

There are only 25 employees using that class.

9:22:29

Whereas I have a hundred.

9:22:31

Excuse me, I have 739 employees fully engaged in the program.

9:22:36

I'm sorry, average of 12 per class.

9:22:40

I'm understanding there's 25 unique people that may come on occasion, but there's 25 people.

9:22:47

So it might not always be the same 25 people.

9:22:50

Well she's saying that.

9:22:52

Usually there's 12 there on any given class on average of the 25.

9:22:57

So you're telling me that only 25 people use the classes?

9:23:00

Yeah.

9:23:00

The the classes are not the most engaged part of that that's not the core of the wellness program.

9:23:05

The core of the wellness program is a ways for us to keep our health costs at a manageable and a um our health costs are not growing at the rate of the market.

9:23:17

We're keeping our health costs down through our wellness program because our employees are engaged in wellness activities.

9:23:25

They might um be doing diet on their app.

9:23:29

They might be joining a challenge to get their weight down.

9:23:31

So you're telling you that the mere fact that the app is being used actually lowers the rate?

9:23:37

We are seeing evidence in our health program, and we have some other data from Personify, which manages our phone wellness program that shows that our metrics are very good because of our engagement.

9:23:49

But I'm asking the mere fact that we have 100 and something employees using the app.

9:23:55

When you go to your insurance broker, do you say because they're using this app we're getting a discount?

9:24:02

So the way that our insurance 739 are using the app, and our insurance broker provides some wellness dollars as a part of their contract.

9:24:10

That's very standard for a health insurance company to support a wellness program through contractual dollars, and Cigna does that for us.

9:24:18

So they're paying us?

9:24:20

Yes.

9:24:21

Okay, so I are is this like a matching grant that we're paying?

9:24:25

It's not really considered a matching grant, it's contractual.

9:24:29

They just dollar for dollar, what is it?

9:24:32

It's 200,000.

9:24:33

So they provide 200,000?

9:24:35

In services and in kind, yes.

9:24:37

Okay.

9:24:38

So then we would be giving 77,000 under this 165,000 across all funds, but from the general fund, which is the main topic here, it would be 77,000 for the general funds.

9:24:48

And listen, colleagues, I I I'd like to move forward.

9:24:51

I mean, I'm okay.

9:24:52

Either way, I think we should start.

9:24:54

I want to move, I want to get to the residents and talk less about the city.

9:24:58

Yes, sir.

9:24:59

Okay.

9:25:00

And for this program, right?

9:25:01

None of this personal.

9:25:02

I'm sure you're great.

9:25:03

We we just met earlier this morning.

9:25:05

I'm sure there are 10 employees that like it per class.

9:25:09

But we're paying $67,000 per year.

9:25:13

$67,000 per year for six classes per week.

9:25:19

It's insane.

9:25:21

Right?

9:25:22

That comes out to $250 per class.

9:25:25

We're paying somebody not to teach residents, not to teach our kids.

9:25:30

We can't pave our streets in some areas.

9:25:33

I can't go to the elementary school and say our residents' kids can play there after hours because we can't pave those courts for four more years in our capital budget.

9:25:45

But we have 250 dollars per class to pay for aesthetics in the garage.

9:25:53

That's insane.

9:25:55

That is resident taxpayer money.

9:25:58

That's not another resort fund.

9:26:00

That is our residence taxpayer money for 250.

9:26:05

I will give up my commission seat if I could get $67,000 per year for six hours of work.

9:26:12

Commissioner Ba.

9:26:13

So can I ask a question?

9:26:14

I know this these classes are much beloved.

9:26:16

We've all heard that.

9:26:18

Um I share the concern about the cost per class and ultimately per person using them.

9:26:25

We have an incredible parks and rec team.

9:26:27

I don't want to put more on their shoulders, but if it's only six classes a week, why can't we why can't we have those classes taught by the people who are doing parks and rec events?

9:26:39

So to the commission um and through the chair.

9:26:41

Um I've committed to the city manager and to each of you that I have spoken with that we would find the most efficient means possible of delivering activities that create a highly engaged wellness program.

9:26:52

And we have lots of ideas that we're willing to pursue, and we think that we can do it.

9:26:56

So highly engaged and at scale, because I I you know I read through the letters and I've had conversations, and you know, we're on the verge of of becoming a blue zone city, so I don't want to take away something that encourages healthy activities.

9:27:12

Yes, but the cost of doing it the way we're doing it is uh shocking.

9:27:18

It is it's it's uh it's irresponsible in my view to use that much money for such a small um group of people who benefit from it.

9:27:29

And so I I really um I don't want to get rid of the classes, but I also don't want to how much was it, Joe?

9:27:35

67,200 and there's also 5,000 additional from resort taxes.

9:27:40

Does that tie in for these classes?

9:27:42

So 72,000 in total?

9:27:44

It's part of the 165,000.

9:27:46

Oh, yeah.

9:27:47

But it's across making 200 pay to play.

9:27:50

There's just got to be a better way to deliver the question.

9:27:51

I think that's what if I'm asking as what Marl was kind of speaking to.

9:27:54

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

9:27:58

Yeah, yeah.

9:27:58

But Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez and Commissioner Suarez.

9:28:01

I had an employee come up to me and explain that the 739 people that were using the app, it's a comprehensive life management system, right?

9:28:11

It reminds them that they should exercise, that they should get their steps in.

9:28:15

So how much is Cygna contributing to that under per our contract?

9:28:20

If our cost for the this is the the entire wellness program is 300,000, correct?

9:28:26

So the entire wellness program over the the full the course of several years has been a different number every year.

9:28:34

But this year, the entire wellness program is made up of multiple components, both city dollars, signal dollars, which are 200.

9:28:41

And in the past, um, you know, we we what I think we can do is refashion a reduced benef uh wellness program with the dollars that um are proposed in this budget in combination with the Cigna 200,000 dollars wellness dollars.

9:28:59

But with the Cigna 200,000 uh uh dollars in wellness.

9:29:03

Doesn't Cigna have an app that would do uh roughly the same thing that no, and they don't have other than it's being spent on wellness, they don't tell us how to deploy it.

9:29:13

So we have gone to them and said, can we use the 200 to help support the reduced contract on the app with Personify because we cut the um wellness code the onset coach um and they have agreed that that's a very good use of the dollars.

9:29:27

So we would be using um the city funds for uh and the Cigna dollars to both provide the incentives and the app and still maintain some activities uh that are valuable to employees.

9:29:40

For example, the corporate run is one of the emplo the um highly engaged activities in the um in our wellness program.

9:29:50

Mr.

9:29:51

Mayor should say Mr.

9:29:52

Commissioner Bach.

9:29:53

It's sorry, Commissioner Suarez and Commissioner.

9:29:56

I just want to be clear.

9:29:57

How much are we paying for the actual classes?

9:30:01

The number for the classes in the past in the garage.

9:30:05

Worse this year.

9:30:08

I'm sorry, I don't want to say the wrong number.

9:30:11

67,2 months.

9:30:13

67,200.

9:30:14

This is look, um I I don't want to come out of left field.

9:30:17

I was gonna bring this up at the next item, and I was actually going to um sacrifice some of the funding from from one of my projects to fund the youth program uh that just started in the city of Miami Beach, Casey Wood from Miami Beach Flag Football Inc.

9:30:35

is here, and uh I want to give to the community the actual community and set up a program for flag football, only asking for $50,000.

9:30:46

I would much rather spend that $67,000 on our youth here in Miami Beach and create a program that is welcoming for Miami Beach families to to have programs for their kids uh on Saturdays.

9:31:04

Uh I don't know how everyone feels about that.

9:31:06

I would pre I would prefer to do it to take away uh funding from this to for our children.

9:31:13

Um we have I don't know how you feel, Commissioner Magazine.

9:31:17

We both have small children.

9:31:18

I would love to have that program uh funded uh moving forward.

9:31:24

How I don't know for the sophony feel is our resident taxpayers need to start going back to our residents.

9:31:32

Right?

9:31:32

We have a bloated budget.

9:31:34

I'm sorry we do.

9:31:35

I'm glad we balanced it.

9:31:36

And this was a challenging year, and thank you.

9:31:38

It truly thank you.

9:31:40

Thank you to everybody for the help.

9:31:42

But we need to start making cuts because I can just about promise we are not going to see these property valuation increases next year that we've seen in the years past.

9:31:52

And even if we do, we should start giving money back to our taxpayers.

9:31:57

Why is that such a crazy crazy idea?

9:32:01

Just because we have a balanced budget doesn't mean we should be okay with it.

9:32:04

We should start thinking about how to return money to our taxpayers.

9:32:08

And even if we're not cutting taxes, we should definitely start shifting the pendulum from services for non-taxpayers to services to our residents and our taxpayers.

9:32:22

I made you chair of the budget committee.

9:32:23

So Commissioner Bott.

9:32:24

Commissioner Bott, I promise.

9:32:26

Yeah, I I would like to just interject into this conversation that our some of our employees are also residents and taxpayers.

9:32:33

Let's not forget that.

9:32:34

But I I I'm just a little taken aback and um that this program, which means a lot to a lot of people, had to be hung over the edge of the cliff.

9:32:45

I mean, imagine our cartoon where somebody's holding the baby over the edge of the cliff saying we're gonna let go, we're gonna kill this completely, unless you find a better way to do this.

9:32:54

And I I can't believe that over all the years that it's been in place and beloved that it hasn't come to the fore that this is a really expensive program for the value that it's delivering.

9:33:10

I am the I'm I'm sponsoring Blue Zones.

9:33:12

I've spent the last year and a half trying to make this happen, and hopefully we're gonna bring it home in the next couple of months.

9:33:17

But I want everyone to have the opportunity to find their way to living healthier, better, more connected lives in community.

9:33:27

And this is a great program to do that, but it is inefficient the way it's been done.

9:33:32

And and you know, we're not in a budget crisis.

9:33:35

I mean, I know that's being bandied about by some folks in the community and and whatever, but that we're not in a crisis.

9:33:41

We are being very mindful about what's coming around the corner because we don't know what's gonna happen.

9:33:46

We might get property taxes taken away from us in a couple of years, right?

9:33:50

So we need to be really mindful about how do we do the things, whether it's for employees in this case or residents in almost all of the cases as it should be.

9:33:59

How do we deliver what people are telling us they need and want in a way that makes sense financially?

9:34:04

And and I I want to keep the the guts of this program and deliver what what is so important to the community of healthier people living living well, right?

9:34:15

And to their personal well-being, but not at the cost that we're talking about.

9:34:20

So, you know, I'm willing to entertain, you know, give you until whenever the next conversation is about how this is going to be delivered in a way that we can keep the guts of it, but also cut the cost significantly.

9:34:34

Um I'm just I'm just sort of gobs gobsmack that it it had to get this dire.

9:34:40

Like it's you know, it's all or nothing.

9:34:42

Like, why wasn't this conversation had a couple of years ago?

9:34:46

To figure this out.

9:34:47

I'd like to add uh my I I and my office worked with the city administration to add the gym that's on the first floor of City Hall, which is I've been uh I think I see a lot of our employees use it.

9:35:00

It's uh it's a pretty modest cost comparably as well because um it's all it's kind of a one-time cost.

9:35:03

So um I know people are uh employees appreciate that, so I'm glad we were able to get that done.

9:35:08

Uh Commissioner Rosa Gonzalez.

9:35:09

Can we speak to the person who's delivering the exercise program to see if he can uh can you reduce your fees if it if it's 200 if it's working out to be 250 dollars an hour, why is it so expensive?

9:35:21

And can we reduce this?

9:35:22

So we had four classes per week.

9:35:24

We just ramped it up to six.

9:35:26

So the sixty-seven was for four classes per year.

9:35:29

It was four now, it's six.

9:35:32

So we uh we started in January.

9:35:35

Mr.

9:35:36

Vice Mayor, I I'd like to make a motion to divert the sixty-seven thousand dollars to the Miami Beach flag football.

9:35:42

Just hear the gentleman out.

9:35:43

I I yeah, you've given good services that people like, right?

9:35:47

This isn't personal, this isn't about you.

9:35:50

This is just the cost savings.

9:35:52

And and it makes me wonder to Commissioner Bott's point, it's like Milton from the office space.

9:35:56

You know, they didn't know he was down there until somebody walked down there.

9:35:59

What else do we not know about, right?

9:36:01

What else do we not know about?

9:36:03

And in fact, I'll be bringing an item next month to go line item by line analysis.

9:36:08

I don't mean to get all my soapbox, but we're not truly setting a budget, right?

9:36:12

We're just looking at our enhancements and seeing, okay, here's the excess money we have.

9:36:17

We have an operating budget in the hundreds of millions of dollars, and we're spending all this time over 30 million dollars in enhancement.

9:36:25

We need to start looking at that hundreds of millions of dollars that recur year after year after year, and how we can find more efficiencies in there.

9:36:35

Um, then I want to give you the floor out of respect, but uh I think you see where this is going.

9:36:41

I mean, unless there's a big reduction, I mean, imagine that you have 25 people using this, and you got them each a gym membership that they could use every single day at a cost of probably like a hundred dollars a month, you would still be saving it's a 30% of the cost, you know.

9:36:57

So I mean I would tell you that we can explore other options like that.

9:37:04

Go to our local gym here and see what kind of I know that there is a discount at anatomy for city employees, they could probably go to the best gym in town at the c at 30% of the cost of this program.

9:37:15

So, or you know, maybe go to a gym in town, find out how much those options are.

9:37:20

Um, $300 per class is too high.

9:37:23

It's I don't know why it was so high.

9:37:25

I understand that you came on site and you were probably using the rooftop here, right?

9:37:31

It's all of our equipment.

9:37:32

I originally came with my truck and trailer uh nine years ago when Jimmy Morales was here, and we had 2530 a class, and there's been a lot of transition this year since January 2025.

9:37:44

We show nothing but growth.

9:37:45

Uh I sent all the data, it's in everybody's inbox.

9:37:49

Uh we just added the six classes and we've been increasing like five to seven percent per month.

9:37:55

With the third class we added is at 6 30.

9:37:58

I recommended we go back to 12 o'clock because we were getting 15 to 20 people.

9:38:03

But when we had the 1230, the 430, and the 530, we were hitting 35 to 45 people a day.

9:38:10

So that's where we were on our trajectory towards, to be frank.

9:38:13

And it's not just the boot camps.

9:38:15

I would do four to six smoothie seminars per year right out here.

9:38:19

I do the boot camps on the beach, I do the Mercedes Benz run.

9:38:22

It's not just camp energy, it's about 10 or 15 items beyond that, to be honest.

9:38:27

And I get it.

9:38:28

One of the beautiful things we have in this community is our access to our outdoor parks.

9:38:33

When we were going through the fire station item, we had two different groups that come here and actually provide free workout classes outside the Flamingo Park Track Club, where they have hundreds of members.

9:38:44

That is the beauty of living in Miami Beach.

9:38:47

That you can be we have Muscle Beach for our employees.

9:38:50

If they choose not to live here, they choose not to live here, right?

9:38:53

If they if they don't want to go home and uh you know go to Muscle Beach for a workout because they live in Fort Lauderdale or somewhere else, it's your choice.

9:39:02

Okay, not you or our employees.

9:39:05

I actually work out at Muscle Beach.

9:39:06

Yeah, probably something.

9:39:07

Right.

9:39:08

We are dedicated.

9:39:09

I'd rather put this $70,000 a year towards expanding Muscle Beach and North Beach or to our flag football for our residents and things like that.

9:39:16

But this comes out to $336 per class.

9:39:20

Brother, sign me up.

9:39:21

Um I'm your partner.

9:39:22

Okay.

9:39:22

Well, I was gonna say what I requested when back in the Jimmy Morales days when I worked with Eric a long time ago.

9:39:29

Um, I wanted to bring back all the seminars that we were doing.

9:39:33

I was doing financial well-being, I was doing motivational stuff in here, some you know, smoothie stuff in here.

9:39:37

I was speaking at Scott Ray Cow at Public Works on a monthly basis.

9:39:42

I was doing different seminars at different locations around the city to educate people on health and well-being.

9:39:47

So I'm happy to work with you guys on that aspect and add more to it because the seminars are what they took away, which I love the most because getting into Scott Ray Cow, going into different zones, going to public works and sanitation.

9:40:00

I can meet with individuals because a lot of people are borderline type 2 diabetes or living with type 2 diabetes, and the city being self-funded.

9:40:06

We do everything we can to educate the employees to potentially get off those medications or potentially come away from being borderline, which becomes claims and premium points at the end of the day.

9:40:16

So it's definitely not just camp energy.

9:40:19

I want to scale this thing to what it was before.

9:40:22

And like I said, I I am I am 100% confident you do tremendous work, tremendous work, right?

9:40:28

And I'm sure people very much enjoy those classes.

9:40:32

I think we're so blessed with the natural resources that we have here in Miami Beach that this $70,000 per year that comes out to $336 per class is able to be better allocated towards other areas more focused on our residents.

9:40:46

The only thing that I would ask is that in the interim, work with Parks and Rec to get some other type of classes or figure out some gym memberships or something to substitute that no employee that has really, you know, is using this program and becoming healthier because of it, and we're having an insurance saving cost in the long term because they're not ill because they're actually exercising and they have positive morale and they're doing a better job that we replace it with something.

9:41:09

100%.

9:41:10

John, that it's something that's in your purview.

9:41:15

So this program was already reduced from 190 to the 88,000.

9:41:20

So there was already a dramatic reduction, and it's such a drop in the bucket, 88,000 compared to our billion-dollar budget to disrupt and upset employees.

9:41:33

People will leave if we're getting feel-valued is so important.

9:41:39

And I'm really quite surprised to hear some of the things that are weak.

9:41:42

We will say at the end of the day, we have 2800 employees, and 25 use this.

9:41:48

25.

9:41:48

No, we're keeping it.

9:41:50

And on any given day?

9:41:51

12.

9:41:53

We're keeping the app.

9:41:54

We don't want employees to lose services.

9:41:56

That is important.

9:41:57

We have the 200,000 in funding from Cigna, and we're gonna replace the classes with something else.

9:42:03

But what we just heard is that at one time this was it was that price because it was a comprehensive program and it no longer is.

9:42:11

And we weren't necessarily informed that.

9:42:13

If I could just jump in and you know, clearly this erection this conversation is going a certain way, and I and I respect that.

9:42:19

I'll just say from my perspective, you know, I'm here late sometimes, or frequently I'm here late.

9:42:26

And I think, you know, while I got the fiscal responsibility part of it, I think we're we might be being a bit, you know, pennywise pound foolish.

9:42:36

Is I do see some of the employees that work the hardest at City Hall, the work the latest hours in City Hall, they'll go, they'll use that, they'll come back, and they'll continue to work.

9:42:49

Why?

9:42:50

Because we demand a lot of our employees, as we should.

9:42:54

Uh, and these are the people who we expect to come up with solutions to our water quality issues or or who we expect to balance our budgets, or the people who we expect to work on uh our 200 ordinances and resolutions every area agenda meeting.

9:43:12

They are the ones that help us deliver for the public.

9:43:16

And these people, um I mean, how late do your employees work in your in your office?

9:43:23

Most nights, eight o'clock.

9:43:24

Eight o'clock.

9:43:25

So, you know, they don't have time to make it, you know, to Orange Theory or to you know, SWAT 440, wherever they are, um, to do this where they live.

9:43:37

They do it here because once they're done, they go back to work.

9:43:40

That's what I've seen from the people in our staff that have asked me to fight for this.

9:43:47

And so I see value in that.

9:43:49

While yes, it seems like a lot of money, but these are employees who are working late, and this is their opportunity to at least get a workout in so that they can go back and continue working for whom for us and the taxpayers of our city.

9:44:02

So I just want us to to keep this in mind because I've already gotten you know tax messages saying, well, their goals employee morale.

9:44:09

And I get it.

9:44:10

I I I get it because we are a very demanding legislative body, and we're a very demanding community.

9:44:18

And unfortunately, not everyone has the wealth to move their family into our city.

9:44:25

It's just not practical for a lot of people, especially if you have elderly parents or grandparents that you have to take care of.

9:44:32

If your kids go to private schools off the island, it's just not in everyone's uh just in in everyone's lifestyle to be able to live in our in our city, not by choice, but because of price.

9:44:48

Now we need to think about those things.

9:44:49

Mr.

9:44:50

Vice Mayor, so wait a second.

9:44:51

Okay, you were being paid within Commissioner Swartz.

9:44:54

You are being paid this money to deliver the classes.

9:44:56

The classes are obviously working for a group of employees, but the other parts of it that were no longer being delivered are not.

9:45:02

And that is whatever these wellness seminars and all of these other things.

9:45:06

Can you give a cost reduction and work with Marla in the interim so that you can lower the price per class, continue to offer the classes and um and and shave that that money off, and then you know, for what you were being paid for the comprehensive program that was not being delivered, admittedly, right?

9:45:24

Over time it kind of got whittled down.

9:45:26

You said like no longer were you you used to go and give these seminars, but you no longer are.

9:45:31

That was uh pre-COVID though.

9:45:32

That those once we went back from COVID, it was just the classes, then there's a no more seminars at that point.

9:45:38

So the payment was just for the classes.

9:45:40

So why don't you guys work something out and come back to us with a new price so that maybe we can continue the classes at City Hall at a price that everybody can agree on?

9:45:48

I would I would agree to that because I don't want any employee to feel like we're cutting them at a you know, it's bad for morale to the very back of the envelope, and Commissioner Schwarz, then we'll go to you.

9:45:58

I think fifty dollars an hour is a very generous sum for a group fitness instructor to make.

9:46:05

If you go to Equinox, that's what they're making.

9:46:07

Anatomy, they're making that.

9:46:09

You can do four classes per week for $50.

9:46:13

The instructor gets $50 an hour, 50 weeks a year.

9:46:16

That's ten thousand dollars, right?

9:46:19

But we're paying seven times that imagine going to Equinox or anatomy, the highest end gym in the entire Miami country.

9:46:28

They're not making 350 bucks an hour to teach group classes there.

9:46:33

That's crazy.

9:46:34

What is part of it?

9:46:35

What do you guys pay for an instructor and instructor per hour?

9:46:40

Five bucks an hour.

9:46:41

Mr.

9:46:41

Mr.

9:46:42

Varsett's.

9:46:44

Like as you've got to find a solution, we should move on though, because we're spending a lot of time on a billion dollar budget.

9:46:50

At the end of the day, I at the end of the day, you know, because at the end of the day, Vice Mayor magazine.

9:46:56

I have the microphone, excuse me.

9:46:58

How how much are we paying an instructor to deliver an exercise class?

9:47:03

To be fair, I don't know exactly what he does, so it may not be apples to apples.

9:47:07

Um we do do fitness classes for as low as $50 for 60-minute class, $50 an hour.

9:47:12

Thank you.

9:47:12

Our city manager wants to speak.

9:47:14

So I think we just need to reframe what we're talking about right now.

9:47:18

$135,000 was cut from the wellness program.

9:47:23

The administration is asking for $77,000 of that back so that we can deliver a wellness program for our $2300 employees that deserve a good wellness program that will ultimately save the city money because it will be less absences, less overtime, less missed work, and less incomplete assignments to be able to make sure that they stay well and stay healthy.

9:47:52

So I just I know this is budget gets very passionate sometimes, but I don't want to lose sight of what it is that we're talking about, which is $77,000, not for classes that may have been overpriced, but for a complete wellness program that includes an app and the services that the employees most value and need in order to stay well.

9:48:22

So I'm okay with that.

9:48:24

I mean it's a comfort, they get like Fitbits, I mean it's a it's a whole lifestyle thing again, right?

9:48:30

Yes.

9:48:31

If an employee wants, if an employee in the city of A Beach wants a Fitbit, they can go and get a Fitbit.

9:48:37

I mean, it's all preventative.

9:48:39

This is you know, preventative care.

9:48:42

So again classes that we're spending $67,000 on.

9:48:47

Is this part of this budget?

9:48:50

No.

9:48:51

Okay.

9:48:52

So that has been that.

9:48:58

So now it's down to what?

9:49:00

So the the contribution is $165, all city funds, because there's some other ones, but the general fund was the important one, is it's only $77,000 now.

9:49:08

So it's $200 from Cigna plus the $77,000 to the general fund, yeah.

9:49:12

Okay, so I would move that for this wellness program.

9:49:14

Does anyone want to second that?

9:49:18

You know what?

9:49:19

I I um I would like to give the the team in its entirety between now and our next budget hearing to come back and show us what they can do for the money that they're asking for.

9:49:31

I I'm not really willing to chop it today because it means a lot to a lot of people.

9:49:36

We're not shopping.

9:49:37

We're they're asking for $77,000 and plus the signifier.

9:49:40

I understand if I may finish my thought.

9:49:42

And I would like to see what we get because everybody has said that they are going to be working on reimagining it, slipping it down, coming up with different options, and we we don't know what that's going to look like at this point.

9:49:56

So I would like to reserve judgment on it until we see what what the offering is.

9:50:02

And if it's a good value for money, then we'll continue with it.

9:50:04

And if it's not, then we'll have a different conversation.

9:50:07

But I'm not willing to cut it at this point.

9:50:09

I want to, but but I want to so yeah, move forward with it.

9:50:12

But before we sign on the dotted line at the end of the month, let's see what the program is.

9:50:17

Okay, just to be clear, it's already been cut.

9:50:19

We're asking for money to be added back in.

9:50:22

But what I'm saying is I want to see what the money getting added back in is going to get us.

9:50:27

So you're like, yeah, sure.

9:50:28

Like move forward as if it were added back in, but before we say for sure you can spend this money, because you have to negotiate where you're going to be spending it for, right?

9:50:36

What you're going to get for it.

9:50:38

Come back to us in six weeks and explain to us what we're buying with that money.

9:50:42

And and I do say, you know, we're we're a billion dollar budget, and we're we spent, I don't know, 45 minutes on 70 grand, basically.

9:50:50

It's a little bit of you know, pennywise and pound foolish.

9:50:53

And um it's not lost on me.

9:50:56

But I do also want to be sure that you know, for for years this has been going on where it's it's a an overpriced product for not enough usage.

9:51:05

And so let's make it right now.

9:51:06

Let's right-size it now.

9:51:08

Just to put this in perspective, this entire wellness program is costing the city $59 per employee after the Sigma funds.

9:51:15

So if we're not willing, they're saying that they're gonna reimagine it with these extra funds.

9:51:18

I just had two more employees text me and say, please.

9:51:21

I use the app.

9:51:22

There, I mean, it is the average cost is $59.

9:51:26

That but the whole point is that they're going to reimagine everything and try not to lose any services, and we already cut them and we're just adding this back.

9:51:35

But what I'm saying is, sure, come back to us next in in six weeks and tell us what we're getting for the added back thing.

9:51:43

Okay, but to give you just so that you know the overall wellness program is $59 and 29 cents per employee.

9:51:51

That's what the cost of this is when you look at the overall benefit.

9:51:56

I understand.

9:51:56

I think the proper thing to do is before we just say yes, go ahead and spend this money, is theoretically spend this money, but I'd like to see what we're buying with.

9:52:05

I agree.

9:52:05

I support what you're saying, Commissioner Bott.

9:52:07

Okay, so if if again, so one of the recommendations was to add this back.

9:52:11

So the recommendation would be accepted as of now.

9:52:13

The question is you have mentioned six weeks.

9:52:14

Do you mean to come back for HR to come back with a discussion item at the October 29th one to get in the detail for us to talk about at the budget second budget hearing on the 30th?

9:52:23

I guess it would be the second budget hearing on the 30th, right?

9:52:26

We can do that.

9:52:27

Uh it yes, we'll work with HR to um have a slide for them to have a discussion on that.

9:52:32

Crystal clear about this.

9:52:33

I want uh I want you guys to come back and say, look, we got it.

9:52:36

This is what we're gonna do.

9:52:37

It's gonna be amazing, it's gonna be expanded, we're gonna get new people involved who haven't been.

9:52:41

We've got creative ways of engaging people who are on the edge.

9:52:44

Like I I want everybody to be using it.

9:52:46

It's a great benefit.

9:52:48

It is a great benefit.

9:52:49

I get it.

9:52:50

I just want to make sure that we're doing it the right way.

9:52:52

And and our colleagues in every department at every level work very, very hard.

9:52:58

And if this is something that helps them keep a semi-decent work-life balance because they don't have to stay homesick or run off to the doctor or whatever, that is, you know, that's great.

9:53:09

I and this is not to punish the employees.

9:53:12

And I know I've gotten texts from residents saying, you know, you treat your employees better than you treat our citizens or residents.

9:53:18

You know, we're we're uh a community here.

9:53:21

So, you know, the people who work for the city of Miami Beach are part of the Miami Beach community, and I don't want them to be uh pilloried or excoriated for being less than.

9:53:32

And so if we end up spending, you know, 50 bucks a person for a wellness program that in improves morale and improves health and wellness outcomes and improves um work productivities, then you know that's a decent expenditure of money if it is done in the best most prudent way possible.

9:53:51

So I'm giving you a couple, you know, in the time to come back to us and and show that.

9:53:56

And I want it to be something that our employees are excited about.

9:53:59

Thank you, Fresh.

9:54:00

So we'll we made that note and we'll make sure to come back on the 30th for the second hearing uh to have that discussion and be able to give some detail specifically on how those funds will be allocated.

9:54:09

Thank you.

9:54:10

Great.

9:54:12

R7D.

9:54:14

Well, so I just I had one or two more slides, and I think that was just one line item.

9:54:21

I think we have what, a thousand.

9:54:23

That was my hint.

9:54:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

9:54:25

Okay.

9:54:25

If we could just bring up the PowerPoint again.

9:54:27

Okay, and I will come back to this because I know there's probably a little bit of discussion, but just uh so we can just end.

9:54:32

So there was one just small capital update.

9:54:34

It was related to uh the uh Byron Carlisle on the Doville settlement.

9:54:39

So as that would have been executed in between the time frames of uh when the budget preliminary budget was set.

9:54:45

Uh there's a one million dollar allocation there.

9:54:47

So we just wanted to go ahead and recognize that one million dollar allocation on the Doveville.

9:54:51

So that was really the only update there.

9:54:54

And just I'm gonna say next steps, but I'll go back because I know there'll be more discussion.

9:55:00

So on the 30th, uh we'll be back here uh for the final and uh second budget hearing.

9:55:03

Those are very traditionally very quick and short meetings.

9:55:05

It'll be I guess uh maybe five minutes longer is we'll we'll have one slide because usually we don't do a presentation uh where HR will present and discuss that wellness program, and then the budget commences on October uh first.

9:55:17

So just let me just flip back here to where we were on the recommendations, and we had a uh very lively discussion uh on the one uh Jason.

9:55:26

Can I interrupt you on this?

9:55:28

And I'm gonna make a motion to see if my colleagues will support this.

9:55:31

I know traditionally we have had where that meeting is just five minutes, it's kind of a formality.

9:55:37

I'm going to make a motion.

9:55:38

I'll see if anybody uh has a willingness to second it.

9:55:42

At that meeting, we will not be adding back any type of more spending.

9:55:48

However, we will do a more thorough analysis of the items that have been highlighted is potential uh potential efficiencies and reductions, and we will go through that with a more fine-toothed comb to see where we can save our taxpayers even more money.

9:56:05

Um I don't want to get into okay, we're saving money and we're just spending it uh out of the other hand, but I do think that our city managers taking the time working with other departments to present uh possible efficiencies, and some of our very well merited, right?

9:56:21

Uh in the actual notes, it says, uh, we could give this up and really see no difference in how we operate.

9:56:28

So I think at our next meeting where traditionally that had just been a formality, we should go through that list of efficiencies, and if we have the votes line item by line item to reduce those, we do so.

9:56:42

Commissioner.

9:56:43

Thank you.

9:56:44

And I you know, I I agree with the spirit of it.

9:56:46

I put myself in the shoes of some of the entities that are listed in that list of possible efficiencies.

9:56:56

Um they deserve to know.

9:56:58

They deserve to know whether they're on the chopping block.

9:57:02

And what's going to happen is that everyone that's hearing that, it's like the call that I got from the PTAs earlier this week.

9:57:09

The calls that we got from the PTAs thinking that their programs were going to be cut, the the educational enhancements, they were concerned because they saw it listed on the list.

9:57:19

So I think if there's anything that we want to seriously consider eliminating, I think we really should be talking about it now so that so that those interested parties are aware of it.

9:57:31

And if not everyone that's in there, they're gonna be reaching out and they're all gonna show up here, and you're gonna end up with a public hearing till 4 30 in in the morning.

9:57:42

And and I the county had that, so maybe it's uh worth it.

9:57:45

And we've had it here in the past in previous years, yeah.

9:57:48

Not in the recent years, but I remember years in our history when when we've had very late uh hearings because of things like that.

9:57:56

And so if there's anything that we're seriously thinking that we need to cut, I think it's better just to say it now, because if not everyone is gonna think that they're on the topping block.

9:58:06

Fine to do that if we I I can keep going tonight.

9:58:08

Uh that's fine with me.

9:58:10

Um, I will say to alleviate anybody's fears, I will not be for anything that is resident driven to cut that.

9:58:18

No education cuts.

9:58:20

I'm not going to cut anything for education for parks uh that that are that are uh that that are um uh children are using and things like that.

9:58:32

But you know, we have 2800 employees, we have a lot of services.

9:58:37

It's more the things efficiencies.

9:58:40

I city uh Mr.

9:58:42

City Attorney's Office.

9:58:44

That was great.

9:58:45

What you said is yeah, we have these professional certificates, we can do without that.

9:58:49

Uh our inspector general was kind enough to say, you know what, we could actually uh alternate sending people year in, year out on conferences, seven thousand dollars here.

9:58:59

Are those small amounts?

9:59:01

Yes, but you start somewhere, and that is what makes a difference, even if it is just changing our tone and narrative for how we approach our budget, that is a start.

9:59:11

So I'm happy to extend our meeting and stay here and look at this uh more closely tonight.

9:59:16

Uh, but if it is things like our residents uh sitting out there, you know, languishing, I'm not going to support anything that is a resident-centric uh service to be cut.

9:59:27

And I and thank you for for that.

9:59:29

I totally agree with you.

9:59:30

For example, and up on that appendix that we got, which was many pages, like I saw there um in code enforcement, the short-term rental team.

9:59:39

It's like you know, absolutely not.

9:59:41

Like it's there in that list of potential efficiencies, but absolutely positively not like hell we'll freeze over, you know, before we even just like with education, you know, that's like one area where you know we can't consider looking at cuts.

10:00:00

But to the extent that we are looking at cuts, I just feel you know, we can't wait till the last minute to tell an entity, hey, listen, you know, last minute, guess what?

10:00:07

Surprise, surprise.

10:00:08

Um we're gonna uh chop your funding.

10:00:12

I think you know they deserve the cut the courtesy of uh of a heads up.

10:00:20

So there's a motion on the table.

10:00:21

Well, wait, where do I get the South Beach Seafood Festival put back in?

10:00:25

Which is on a back end.

10:00:28

This would be the the time to discuss that, and then uh, you know, obviously we have a balanced budget, so you know if we go back to um the slide there just showing there is we have it, these are just again.

10:00:41

I think as the financier said there is attachment uh E, which has a list of potential reductions, so you could find something that's on that menu.

10:00:48

Let's call it a menu, or something from here.

10:00:50

Uh and just remember the the remaining balance that we had after our recommendations of 93,000 was one additional recommendation of 93,000, which was the balancing number to uh supplement uh some additional uh you know funding for a fourth of July semi-quincentennial.

10:01:04

There's that option uh there.

10:01:06

I don't think I should have to cut this because Commissioner Fernandez, could we inside of a 50,000 for the doors to freedom?

10:01:13

Uh I'll pick out cuts.

10:01:15

Okay, pick a cut because three reductions of the city attorney's office of professional services.

10:01:20

Uh they say uh the office can uh essentially uh such reduction should not significantly impact the CAO's core services.

10:01:30

Uh that is 2550, that's 80,000 right off the bat.

10:01:34

Rick, thank you for that.

10:01:35

I'm sorry to piggyback uh you know, uh scapegoat you using this, but tremendous leadership and offering those up, no significant reduction to how uh your core services should act.

10:01:46

It's eighty thousand dollars in taxpayer money, we just save it like that.

10:01:54

Okay, so I'll I agree with that.

10:01:57

I just want the this I you know the poor seafood festival got cut, and I I feel badly for them because they really a lot of people do come to it at a month where we don't have a lot of tourism.

10:02:06

So if that's fine and we can put the seafood festival back in, that's great.

10:02:10

And I don't care if the city attorney's office wants the balance of that.

10:02:14

Um another vacant full-time field inspector position in CIP.

10:02:20

It's open, it's not full seventy thousand dollars uh if on that one.

10:02:24

I wouldn't cut anything from CIP because I would just say for CIP, they could give the position out, but CIP is funded by the capital project, so if we get rid of the expenditure, we lose the revenue as well, so it doesn't impact the budget.

10:02:37

And can I bring up one okay?

10:02:40

So with the seafood thing is done.

10:02:42

Can we agree on that?

10:02:43

If I can so far there's a motion to eliminate $80,000 from the is it to remove $25,000 or $80,000.

10:02:52

Because that's going to be recurring.

10:02:53

The seafood fest is a one-time three, just like swim week.

10:02:56

I'm telling swim week this is one and done, not recurring.

10:02:59

So we just saved $80,000 per year on a recurring basis.

10:03:03

We'll be spending a one year.

10:03:04

However, after that, we have $80,000 coming back to our taxpayers.

10:03:08

So we'll show uh items on attachment A, items two, three, four, to be removed and add back $25,000 in seafood.

10:03:15

Obviously, any uh balancing item we would just add to the a one-time addition to uh reserves, which would just help in the next year.

10:03:23

Okay, I have one other can I ask you a question, please?

10:03:26

The didn't we just pass a couple months ago a thing about um not underwriting sponsorships for uh festivals or events coming to the city of Miami Beach that are you know like we'll do it for the first three years to get them established, maybe, but that's it.

10:03:44

And the seafood festival has been here for how long?

10:03:47

If I can, I believe the item uh which is gonna be incorporated.

10:03:51

Uh the BAC just uh had a discussion on that and that and asked for some tweaks.

10:03:55

So they'll come back to finance in a couple of months.

10:03:57

Uh that item was I think for it allowed for three years uh worth of funding until they kind of uh find it out.

10:04:03

And I believe that's how that uh one speaks.

10:04:06

And I don't believe it it necessarily uh was grandfathered in the sense that if you've been receiving funding, but how many years have we been underwriting the seafood festival?

10:04:15

Uh I don't know.

10:04:16

I don't know if uh Lizette can maybe answer that uh question.

10:04:25

Uh good evening, the Sierra Frogante, director of tourism and culture.

10:04:29

Uh the question, if you can please repeat it.

10:04:31

How many years?

10:04:32

And I don't mean to throw a pop quiz at you, but I'm throwing a pop quiz at you.

10:04:36

Um, how many years have we been underwriting the the seafood festival?

10:04:39

The seafood festival had a five-year agreement that was um based on a waterfall that they would get uh started, I think at 25,000, ending with 5,000.

10:04:49

And so last year I believe there was an item to renew their agreement for I believe another five years to have 25,000 each year.

10:05:00

So we renegotiated something that's been successful.

10:05:02

If I may, sorry to interrupt, we did not renegotiate.

10:05:05

This came from um commission sponsor.

10:05:08

And the reason that we did it was because our prices are so high.

10:05:12

So we've had these and fire that me finish.

10:05:16

Because it did um for me.

10:05:18

And I went to the festival last year, and I'll tell you that there's people from all over the world that come and fill up hotel rooms.

10:05:25

How many people come to come into the festival?

10:05:27

I mean, so in a month where nobody is here, Tanya.

10:05:29

We have we have to fill hotel rooms.

10:05:32

So that's what this is about.

10:05:33

It's an economic development right now.

10:05:37

South Peterwan food or seafood?

10:05:39

It's South Beach Food and One.

10:05:40

How much are they made?

10:05:43

I don't have that with me right now.

10:05:45

Okay, how much they made.

10:05:46

Because someone uh messaged me saying, you know, why are we still funding this?

10:05:50

They made 40 million last year, and it's a private bank running it.

10:05:53

I don't believe that they made that.

10:05:54

I'm not having correct.

10:05:56

But say that the event is a more affordable version of South Beach Wine Food.

10:06:01

I understand that, and I think they're wonderful.

10:06:03

And I know that we are an expensive place to do business, but if you're not able to operate, you know, if you're in year six and you still need to be underwritten at a higher level than you were in year five, there's something wrong with the business model.

10:06:15

It's to help all of our local restaurants.

10:06:17

They all go there in October when they're empty and they sell food.

10:06:21

There's the how many restaurants participate.

10:06:23

All of our local businesses are there.

10:06:25

So do you they are selling food?

10:06:27

That if we didn't, if we continue their their underwriting at $5,000 for five years, they this whole thing would go away.

10:06:33

What I'm telling you is it's a way that we help our businesses.

10:06:37

I I listen, I don't have a restaurant.

10:06:39

I have no skin in this game.

10:06:41

If you are adamant about not funding this, but I would tell you that there's a lot of goodwill that goes into this.

10:06:47

And the restaurants in town love it, our residents love it.

10:06:51

Um people from coming in from around the country, and I've seen us give a lot more to a lot different events.

10:06:58

I'm not quite sure why you're why you're picking on the South.

10:07:01

Seafood Fast.

10:07:02

And it's there's been things that you've wanted to fund, and I just questioned some of them when you wanted uh that $200,000 study, and I said to myself, I spoke to the staff member and I said I will fund this.

10:07:13

But there I have a judge, there's a definite definitive justification here.

10:07:17

Okay, so I mean I am not picking on a particular event.

10:07:21

I feel that you are because we're funding so many other festivals, and for some reason this one seems to be so controversial.

10:07:27

Please finish my sentence.

10:07:28

Well, no, I find it very frustrating because let me finish my sentence.

10:07:32

Okay.

10:07:33

The reason that we're talking about this one is because it is in the list.

10:07:38

It's the concept that we as a body have agreed on that we are going to presumably move forward, sponsoring for three years, underwriting something for three years to get them up on their feet and established and successful, which I agree with a thousand percent.

10:07:55

But to do it for ten years, uh that's that's a different thing.

10:07:59

I mean, if you're on the scale of art basel, maybe but but you know, and I it has nothing to do with the seafood festival in its it in its entity.

10:08:08

It's the concept that we literally just a couple of months ago said three years get them going, great.

10:08:14

Ten years, a little bit weird.

10:08:16

If I may the I agree with the legislation that you passed was strictly for fee waivers, not for sponsorships.

10:08:24

So it's you're aware of that.

10:08:27

Are the people from the South Beach Seafood Festival?

10:08:33

Yeah, why don't you bring her on the line and she can check out the five years?

10:08:36

Can we do a one and done type thing?

10:08:38

Would that be instead of uh having this recurring, have this one year give them notice and then that's that they're on their own?

10:08:47

I'd be fine with that.

10:08:48

Okay, so let's just do it for this year and South Beach Seafood Festival after this year, we can no longer provide this sponsorship um to you unless you want to come and lobby to everyone and justify why we should give the 25,000 dollars.

10:09:01

So I'm okay with that.

10:09:02

Fine.

10:09:03

Okay.

10:09:03

So we'll we'll show that item uh as 25,000 at a back as a one-time, one time only would only come back uh if sponsored by so we wouldn't we the administration would not bring it back as a as an uh enhancement unless uh corrected by commission.

10:09:16

Yep got it.

10:09:17

And then I'm gonna put that motion back on the table.

10:09:19

Uh uh spoke with Commissioner Fernandez.

10:09:22

So what the city manager and all the staff took so much time in doing, and thank you for that.

10:09:27

They put forward uh uh an appendix of possible reductions.

10:09:31

These are not community-based, these are kind of uh internal within the administration various departments.

10:09:38

Um so I'm going to make a motion that at our next meeting we spend a half hour going kind of line item by line item, just gauging temperature about should we keep this or should we cut it?

10:09:49

We have about 40 different possibilities.

10:09:51

Um part of that motion is we are not adding any further spending, right?

10:09:57

So this isn't going to be horse trade or any things like that.

10:10:00

We're going to be looking at efficiencies and reductions because it is good budgeting, good governance, and good stewardship of taxpayer dollars.

10:10:08

So that motion is on the table if anybody cares a second.

10:10:11

And I'll I'll support that.

10:10:12

I just want to make sure we discussed this earlier, the steam plus position.

10:10:18

That's I'll lay in the road before we reduce education funding.

10:10:22

Okay.

10:10:23

Yes, because I got the calls from the PTA moms.

10:10:26

I'm a PTA dad.

10:10:27

You're that's right, you're the PTA dad.

10:10:29

And I agree, maybe we need to look at the entire list of sponsorships and see you know what we're doing in terms of sponsorships and not just pick out one person but go through the entire list of every single event that we're sponsoring and and figure out how much we are sponsoring.

10:10:42

So I understand it from that perspective.

10:10:44

To be clear, we want these events to be successful, and we want to help them establish themselves.

10:10:49

And if there's you know an extenuating circumstance or if it's not for profit or there whatever, we can talk about it.

10:10:55

But this is going forward where, as I mentioned just a few minutes ago, we might be facing not having property tax revenues in the city.

10:11:03

And so to commit ourselves to underwriting for-profit businesses that are well established.

10:11:10

I think that is not something we want to tie ourselves to going forward.

10:11:15

Understood.

10:11:15

I just think that people budget for these things in advance, so to cut them at the last minute.

10:11:19

So final hour is don't like cutting things at the last minute.

10:11:22

I don't think that's a fair way to proceed.

10:11:24

All right, well, they the writings on the wall for next year.

10:11:27

We saved it for this year.

10:11:29

I have one more thing that I wanted to ask about.

10:11:31

Um neighborhood is here about the playground in Pride Park.

10:11:38

And I know that those funds would be coming from the RDA funds.

10:11:41

And there was part of the ordinance that was passed saying that as part of finishing Pride Park, there were they were supposed to have a playground, they did not get the playground.

10:11:51

I believe it's 400,000 for the entire playground, and that would come out of RDA funds.

10:11:57

Do I need to do that here, or is that happening in a different budgetary place?

10:12:00

Because I'd like to get it in before we complete all of this if possible.

10:12:04

Sure.

10:12:05

If I can on that, and Tamika will jump in if I'm off or uh the city attorney has also been part of these discussions.

10:12:10

We've had that discussion, I know, with yourself and those individuals.

10:12:13

Um those monies are not available.

10:12:15

Uh that is a lockdown uh RDA.

10:12:17

And we we had some discussion with the city attorney that the only way for that to happen is if um I believe, and Rick correct me if I'm wrong, is if we went to the county and requested it, and we would have to amend the RDA uh the interlocal agreement uh for them to open up the RDA to allow this work to happen.

10:12:35

Because we've done this before.

10:12:36

That's Michael, correct me if I'm wrong, is we've had requests to add uh individual projects that are adjacent or or similar, you know, uh in nature, and every one of them the county has said no because they have to also approve it, and they have pointed out that we have it RDA in our local agreement that clearly states no new project.

10:12:54

So yes, but we said that we would we we said that as part of the agreement we would provide a playground, and we never provided that playground.

10:13:02

Now the neighborhood is coming.

10:13:03

That's not my understanding.

10:13:04

The the project uh on the convention center uh mentioned the uh a park and and and Maria uh who oversaw that uh convention center project couldn't can speak very clearly to that, uh, but that was never part of the approved project, which is whatever that with Tamika uh that is not part of the project's uh scope.

10:13:23

Um so again, we would have to go to the county and ask them to open up the RDA.

10:13:27

It says here in the agreement amidst the wandering paths and landscape at the north end of the park, a pocket of green area has been reserved for players.

10:13:37

I believe that's the exit.

10:13:38

My understanding is that was the uh exercise uh work that was put up in the corner.

10:13:42

But fitness.

10:13:45

So I think playing.

10:13:46

This is my understanding and talking with the city attorney, but Maria, if you wanted to add something.

10:13:50

What's the harm in going to the RD to going to the county and asking them to um fund I mean that would be that would be fine if you wanted to because this is for the budget side, but if you wanted to I would second that commissioner, okay.

10:14:02

So then can we make a motion for you guys to go to the county and open the RDA and get the 400,000 dollars for the playground, please?

10:14:09

And I yeah, and we'll speak to the county.

10:14:12

Pardon why is it so it's 600?

10:14:15

I was under the impression.

10:14:16

Well, how about whatever the amount is?

10:14:18

We can go back to we can we can engage with the county and ask them that uh we are interested in opening up the RDA funding to allow for this particular project to go for to go forward and uh we'll see we'll we'll you know see how that which was in the original proposal and the original Mr.

10:14:36

Mayor just just Commissioner Fernandez point of clarification because I I know we are an R7C and we have a number of other budget items that we have to get through today.

10:14:46

Do we have a hard stop, Mr.

10:14:49

Mayor?

10:14:50

I think we could actually move on to the I'm just wondering do we have a hard stop like if the meeting okay?

10:15:00

Okay, okay, so we have a motion and a second to go to the county RDA, reopen it, get the funding for the playground at Pride Park, and I have a second.

10:15:04

Is everybody okay with that?

10:15:05

By acclamation.

10:15:06

Okay, wonderful thought.

10:15:07

So could we adopt the ad loom uh military?

10:15:10

We'll have to do that very formally through public hearing, but on the the aspects of the budget presentation, as we did.

10:15:16

So we will show that uh items through two, three, four uh were uh were efficiencies that were accepted.

10:15:22

We're adding back uh the 25,000 for the seafood festival in a one time, uh accepting the recommendations uh of the administration, uh including the the wellness discussion is recurring and the unit data is recurring, everything else is one time, and that would set it, and then I think we're now in a position.

10:15:39

Anything else we need to do?

10:15:40

No, it sounds like we are okay to actually start um the public hearing and/or uh having the call the vote.

10:15:48

This is on item R7C.

10:15:51

I have no one on Zoom at the moment, and go ahead.

10:15:56

Hi.

10:15:57

I just want to make a quick point on the name, please.

10:15:59

Uh yeah, John Courtney, 1026 18th Street, fighting for a playground for my girls.

10:16:04

Uh this is from 2018 from the DRB meeting.

10:16:12

Hopefully I can get it to go.

10:16:17

What are the chances?

10:16:19

That's unfortunate.

10:16:20

But essentially, it was stated in the meeting, and hopefully we can clarify that we can play in the meantime.

10:16:24

I can play it.

10:16:25

You can play it.

10:16:26

Uh we call it and then we have a number four, which is uh reservation zone for a fitness and uh we call it a possible potential playground area that in the future can take place where uh parks and recreation can define that and a long hole on the life of the park.

10:16:43

And fifth and last that we have on that's all so I just want to say you know, this was something that was promised in 2018, and uh hopefully we can get this done.

10:16:52

So thank you.

10:16:53

I appreciate it.

10:16:54

Thank you, John.

10:16:55

Mr.

10:16:56

Daniel Serraldo, I believe is on the line.

10:17:02

Yes, hi Daniel Seraldo, candidate for Miami Beach Commission, long-time resident of Miami Beach.

10:17:08

It was disheartening to hear the talk about cutting employee fitness classes, comparing the price of a personal trainer for one hour at Equinox to the cost of a hardworking local who is giving fitness classes to city employees of a billion dollar organization has taken almost one hour.

10:17:30

Um it's very disappointing seeing the board get in the weeds like that.

10:17:35

But one suggestion I have to preserve the employee fitness and well-being is to take some of the $800,000 you all just gave to Woodsapalooza Fitness Festival.

10:17:46

That's basically a branding promotion for one commissioner and give it back to the hardworking employees of our city.

10:17:54

Thank you.

10:17:57

Thank you.

10:17:57

There is no one now on Zoom and no one in the public, correct?

10:18:01

Uh move the item.

10:18:02

Mr.

10:18:02

Mr.

10:18:03

Ms.

10:18:03

Vice Mayor, I I would like to make one amendment actually.

10:18:06

Um we have Casey Wood from Miami Beach Flag Football.

10:18:10

I already asked the um the sponsors for Waterpalooza if I could take off 50,000 from the 800,000 for next year's March fitness for the flag football, and they have agreed.

10:18:24

So if it's okay with the body, I would like to uh take that money and and and give it and I don't know if you guys want you want to give a 30-second speech, Casey, of what you guys do for for the Miami Beach.

10:18:36

Commissioner, I think we're all unanimous.

10:18:37

I think that's the same.

10:18:38

Never mind, we've got the children have and healthy good activity.

10:18:43

How can we vote against that?

10:18:46

Just for the record, so what we'll show is uh wherever the funding sources for Winterpalooza, we'll reduce by 50, and then we'll add 50 uh as soon as to the parks more than likely uh for uh uh to run that program.

10:18:58

Yes, okay.

10:18:59

Thank you.

10:19:00

So for the record, I have a motion by Commissioner Fernando.

10:19:03

The city attorney is asking me to make a motion to reconsider term as a format.

10:19:09

If I if I can, I I think that they could be uh that's fine.

10:19:13

That's probably the easiest thing.

10:19:14

They could be individual motions because they have to make uh motions on the individual votes because we're on millage technically now.

10:19:21

But we previously adopted a resolution at this meeting meeting authorizing 800,000.

10:19:25

So I think we need to solution for them.

10:19:27

What item is it?

10:19:28

Motion to reconsider.

10:19:29

Okay.

10:19:34

C seven question.

10:19:37

Do you miss Casey?

10:19:38

Is it sorry?

10:19:39

Um Tanya, hi.

10:19:40

Um are you working with the police athletic league?

10:19:42

Because I think there's some back and forth about who was gonna be doing flag football.

10:19:47

Um come up to the podium, please.

10:19:53

Thank you.

10:19:54

My name is Casey Wood for those who haven't met me.

10:19:57

Uh Ms.

10:19:57

Spott.

10:19:58

Um, those two are happening in parallel.

10:20:00

We had a conference call between Deborah Martin now, um, Cindy Casanova and myself.

10:20:07

And both of us uh regretted not knowing what each other was doing beforehand, because right now they're happening in parallel, but they're complementary to one another.

10:20:18

They don't overlap time-wise.

10:20:20

Um, and so that that's so uh it's gonna be additive that we have two different flag football programs going on in the city.

10:20:30

Yeah, I don't know if I ours runs another six weeks, and then we're gonna extend with something else.

10:20:36

I don't know how long her program lasts.

10:20:39

Okay, but so Cindy and John and I'll get with you guys and Deb and and DKC to figure out what's going on because I heard there is a little bit perhaps of a kerfuffle, and I don't want there to be any kerfuffles.

10:20:52

Not not that I'm aware of.

10:20:53

Not that I'm aware of.

10:20:55

Okay, good.

10:20:55

Thank you.

10:20:56

So motion to reconsider, second.

10:20:59

I'm sorry, who seconded?

10:21:00

I second.

10:21:01

Commissioner Dominguez.

10:21:04

Okay, so this is to reconsider C7J.

10:21:06

That was originally approved on the consent agenda.

10:21:09

I heard seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

10:21:12

Oh, actually, motion by Commissioner Suarez, and I think I heard Commissioner Magazine.

10:21:17

So to reconsider C7J.

10:21:18

All in favor?

10:21:19

Aye.

10:21:20

No motion to adopt.

10:21:21

Motion passes.

10:21:22

Now a motion to adopt the 50 for Parks and Rec for the flag football.

10:21:26

Yeah, 50.

10:21:27

To reduce by 70.

10:21:29

To reduce by 50 to 750.

10:21:31

So now we're asking me to approve C7J as amended.

10:21:34

Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Magazine.

10:21:39

Yes.

10:21:40

All in favor of approving C7J as amended with 750,000 dollars, please say aye.

10:21:45

Aye.

10:21:46

It's approved as amended.

10:21:48

C7J.

10:21:50

Now R7C, the village.

10:21:52

Yes.

10:21:53

So R7C, just for the record, is as is.

10:21:56

Yes.

10:21:57

So R7C is a motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Magazine.

10:22:02

There is no one left in public uh the public requesting to speak on R7C.

10:22:06

All in favor, please say aye.

10:22:08

Anyone opposed?

10:22:10

Hearing none, the item is approved.

10:22:13

Second reading public hearing is scheduled for September 30th at 501.

10:22:17

So second reading public hearing 501, September 30th.

10:22:21

R7D.

10:22:22

As amended.

10:22:23

Yeah, well, I'm gonna read the title.

10:22:25

Yes.

10:22:25

Yes.

10:22:26

R7D is a rules as a resolution of the Mayor City Commission of the City by Beach Florida adopting the tentative budgets for central.

10:22:32

I'm sorry, for the general geo debt service city center RDA at Villorum Taxes, North Beach CRA, Advalorum Taxes, Enterprise Internal Service and Special Revenue Funds for Fiscal Year 2026, subject to a second public hearing scheduled on Tuesday, September 30th, 2025 at 501 p.m.

10:22:48

It is a public hearing.

10:22:50

I move the item as amended.

10:22:51

Second.

10:22:52

I have a motion by Commissioner Fernandez, secondary by Commissioner Suarez.

10:22:56

This is on R7D as amended.

10:22:59

It is a public hearing.

10:23:00

I see no one on Zoom, no one in the in the audience requesting to speak.

10:23:04

May I call the roll on R7D?

10:23:06

Yes.

10:23:08

All in favor of R7D as amended, please say aye.

10:23:11

Aye.

10:23:11

Anyone opposed?

10:23:12

Hearing none, the item is approved 7-0 as amended for the record.

10:23:16

Uh second reading public hearing is scheduled for Tuesday, September 30th at 501 p.m.

10:23:22

R7D.

10:23:24

R7E.

10:23:25

Resolution of the Board of Directors of Normandy Shores Local Government Neighborhood Improvement District adopting the tentative at the lower millage rate of 0.7305 mills for fiscal year 2026 for the Normandy Shores Local Government Neighborhood Improvement District, which is one and three tenths more than the rollback rate of 0.7208 mils, subject to a second public hearing scheduled on Tuesday, September 30th at 502 p.m.

10:23:50

This is a second, this is a public hearing.

10:23:53

So this is the millage rate for Normandy Shores.

10:23:56

Their property values actually went up by 9.5%.

10:23:59

Their millage rate is actually going down by 6.21%.

10:24:02

And the budget that we're going to we're going to hear after this actually is going up slightly because of the cost of uh contractual services for their security guards.

10:24:11

Uh we did go through the budget with the members of the HOE and this is the mileage rate is based on the budget that they presented.

10:24:18

Thank you.

10:24:21

Take a motion.

10:24:22

Yeah.

10:24:24

So I heard the mayor make the motion, but he can't, so motion by Commissioner Bott, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:24:33

Uh on R7E.

10:24:35

It is a public hearing.

10:24:36

I see no one on Zoom and I see no one in the audience requesting to speak.

10:24:38

All in favor, please say aye.

10:24:40

Aye.

10:24:40

Aye.

10:24:41

Anyone opposed?

10:24:41

Hearing none, R7E is approved.

10:24:43

Please note the second reading public hearing is scheduled for September 30th at 5.02 p.m.

10:24:49

R7F.

10:24:50

R7F is a resolution of the Board of Directors of Normandy Shores Local Government Neighborhood Improvement District adopting the tentative operating budget for fiscal year 2026, subject to a second public hearing scheduled on Tuesday, September 30th at 502 p.m.

10:25:03

It is a public hearing.

10:25:04

It is item R7.

10:25:05

I move the item.

10:25:06

Second.

10:25:08

I heard a motion from Commissioner Fernandez.

10:25:10

Seconded by Commissioner Dominguez.

10:25:13

It is a public hearing.

10:25:14

I see no one requesting to speak either on Zoom or in the audience.

10:25:20

All in favor of R7E, please say aye.

10:25:22

It's not aye.

10:25:23

Anyone opposed?

10:25:24

Hearing none.

10:25:24

The item is approved 7-0.

10:25:26

Second reading, public hearing is scheduled for September 30th at 502 p.m.

10:25:31

G is the last.

10:25:53

Second.

10:25:53

I have a motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

10:25:56

It is a public hearing.

10:25:57

No one on Zoom, no one in the audience.

10:25:59

All in favor of R7G, please say aye.

10:26:02

Aye.

10:26:02

Aye.

10:26:03

Anyone opposed?

10:26:04

Hearing none, the item is approved.

10:26:05

70.

10:26:07

Second reading, public hearing is scheduled for September 30th at 503 p.m.

10:26:12

Thank you.

10:26:13

Thank you.

10:26:20

Mayor.

10:26:24

There's one more.

10:26:26

R7G.

10:26:28

We did.

10:26:29

Yep.

10:26:29

Okay.

10:26:30

We did right now.

10:26:31

C D C4.

10:26:32

Let's do some addendum item.

10:26:34

C4I.

10:26:37

C4I is a referral to FERC impact of change orders for Lincoln Road.

10:26:42

I move the item.

10:26:43

Second.

10:26:43

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

10:26:46

I'm trying.

10:26:47

Give me a sec.

10:26:48

So C4I was motioned by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:26:50

Seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

10:26:52

All in favor of C4I, please say I.

10:26:54

Aye.

10:26:54

All right.

10:26:56

Hearing no one opposed.

10:26:57

C4I is adopted.

10:26:59

C4J.

10:27:00

C4J is a referral to FERC assist small business materially impacted by public works.

10:27:04

I move the item.

10:27:06

Second.

10:27:07

Motion by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:27:08

Seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

10:27:11

No discussion.

10:27:11

All in favor?

10:27:12

Aye.

10:27:13

Item is approved 7-0.

10:27:14

That was C4J.

10:27:16

Let's call C7AD and C7AF.

10:27:20

C7AD is honor life and legacy of Charlie Kirk and C7AF is calming of political violence.

10:27:28

I move the items.

10:27:38

Aye.

10:27:39

Motion is adopted.

10:27:40

That was C7AD and AF.

10:27:42

R5P.

10:27:44

I have an item that I submitted last minute that is that I need to have heard because I have to work tomorrow morning and we cannot change my city filming unless we amend it right now.

10:27:56

I don't know the item.

10:27:57

Ralph, do you know which one it is?

10:28:00

R9AF.

10:28:01

R9AF.

10:28:02

I will call it in a minute.

10:28:03

Let's just do R5P and then I'll call it.

10:28:05

R5P is an order of the mayor of City Commission of the City of Maybe Beach Florida amending the code of the City of Mayor Beach subpart B entitled land development regulations by amending chapter 3 of the Maybe Beach Resiliency Code entitled concurrency management and mobility fees by amending Article 2 and title concurrency by creating Section 3.2.3 entitled Imposition and Collection of Concurrency Mitigation Fee to establish provisions for the waiver of applicable concurrency medication fees by amending Article 3 entitled mobility fees by amending section 3.3.3 entitled imposition and collection of mobility fees to establish a established provisions for the waiver of applicable mobility fees and providing for codification repeater servability and an effective item second my second motion by commissioner Fernandez secondary by Commissioner Magazine.

10:28:47

It is a public hearing no one on Zoom.

10:28:50

No one in the audience.

10:28:52

Yes.

10:28:53

Commissioner Fernandez.

10:28:54

Yes.

10:28:54

Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

10:28:56

Yes.

10:28:56

Commissioner Dominguez.

10:28:57

Yes.

10:28:57

Commissioner Bott.

10:28:58

Yes.

10:28:59

Vice Mayor Magazine.

10:29:00

Yes.

10:29:00

Commissioner Suarez.

10:29:01

Yes.

10:29:01

Mayor Minor.

10:29:02

Yes.

10:29:02

Motion carry second reading.

10:29:04

Public hearing is on October 29th.

10:29:06

That was item R5P.

10:29:08

R9AF.

10:29:09

R9AF is discussed.

10:29:12

Take action.

10:29:13

Authorized city clerk to adjust MBTV candidate presentation scheduling for conflicts.

10:29:17

Mr.

10:29:18

Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to adjust the MBTV candidate presentation scheduling for conflicts of scheduling.

10:29:24

Second.

10:29:31

Aye.

10:29:32

Aye.

10:29:32

Item passes.

10:29:33

That was item R9AF.

10:29:34

Commissioner Gonzalez talked to me after the words.

10:29:37

R7.

10:29:38

I'm sorry.

10:29:39

For Commissioner to talk to me so I can figure out the scheduling.

10:29:41

R7T.

10:29:43

R 7T is extend the parking holiday program to October 31st.

10:29:50

I move the item.

10:29:51

Second.

10:29:53

I heard a motion book from Commissioner Fernandez.

10:29:55

Seconded by Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez.

10:29:58

All in favor of R7T.

10:30:01

Aye.

10:30:02

Hearing no opposition, R7T is adopted.

10:30:06

Which one is here?

10:30:06

R9AE.

10:30:09

R9AE is take action regarding police department staffing R9AE.

10:30:17

I'm bringing this item because one, I wanted to congratulate our police department for reaching uh at the end of this month full staffing for the first time.

10:30:24

And uh we actually looked for data that shows you how long it's been that nobody could actually figure out the exact time.

10:30:29

It's been it's been a while.

10:30:30

But also wanted to bring up uh maybe it's uh you chief or or or or our city manager to discuss how we're doing with the succession planning.

10:30:38

Sure.

10:30:39

Um good evening, Wayne Jones, uh police chief.

10:30:42

Uh as it far as as um it relates to the staffing, hiring of new police officers, but by my guess best guesstimation, it's been about a decade and a half since you've been at full staffing.

10:30:54

What that really means is um all of our bullets that we're budgeted for have been filled as of uh this week.

10:31:01

Um now as a practical matter, many of those police officers won't be hitting the road for up to a year, but they are hired.

10:31:07

We'll be going through our training process.

10:31:09

Some of them go into the police academy, some of them after you finish the police academy have to go through another 10-week uh post academy training and then a three and a half month rotation in terms of field the training program.

10:31:21

So although they're hired on paper, it'll be quite some time before they actually hit the street, and we'll actually get a benefit of those police officers being um as patrol officers uh in our city.

10:31:31

I think Mr.

10:31:32

Manager, you want to sort of touch off the succession planning bit?

10:31:36

Sure.

10:31:36

Um, you know, I have been working closely with the chief and with the command staff on what the succession plan for the police department looks like following the construct of resolution 2024 333 30 as directed by the mayor and commission.

10:31:59

Um I've had over 20 meetings with the chief and the assistant chiefs and majors from the department to better understand the command staff, the capabilities, um, and I am pleased to report that I feel like we have an excellent group of leaders in the police department, and I feel that we have a very strong opportunity to present um a competitive process, primarily with internal candidates from the police department, and I look forward to taking that on uh after we get to the first of the year.

10:32:50

I I love Ms.

10:32:52

Merrickan I please Chief, our city is a different place than it was two years ago.

10:32:58

Truly.

10:32:58

You said it earlier, not only is major crimes down, but people feel safer, and that's the common sentiment that I hear.

10:33:05

So I think as a vote of confidence, I love that we're doing this internally.

10:33:09

I think it is a tremendous signal for morale, and when you do things the right way, you're awarded.

10:33:14

So thank you for the men and woman, all you do.

10:33:17

Thank you, Commissioner.

10:33:18

Thank you for all the the hard work of our our police department.

10:33:21

I actually looked into this issue uh a couple of years ago, looking at internal versus external candidates.

10:33:28

Um I came to the conclusion that if you have the talent in-house, definitely better to do so.

10:33:33

There's sometimes it works out really well external, but there are there are some there are some high profile misses as well.

10:33:39

And we definitely have the talent internally, which is a credit to our police department.

10:33:43

So I think that's definitely the way to go.

10:33:45

And I think it speaks to the morale of our to our employees that we trust our employees, that we value our employees that we want their long-term commitment to the Miami Beach Police Department because they can one day aspire to be in the ranks uh and in the leadership of this department, and we have seen in our past that when we've gone to the outside, the grass is not always greener.

10:34:07

And so I think you know, we're very fortunate that we have some great talents within uh within our organization.

10:34:15

Commissioner Bott.

10:34:16

Um so I echo the sentiments that have been shared already.

10:34:19

I think it's a credit to your leadership that you've got a strong bench from which to to poll.

10:34:24

Um speaks well of the organization of the leadership of the people who have made their way to the top.

10:34:29

Um but my bigger issue is who says you're allowed to retire?

10:34:36

Um but seriously, can you talk everybody through that a little bit?

10:34:39

Like what is the time frame?

10:34:41

What's the like can we keep you?

10:34:42

Can we do anything to in incentivize you to stay longer than or do you already have like a timeshare in Fiji that you're decamping to?

10:34:51

Uh no time share in Fiji as yet, uh although it is a really lovey thought.

10:35:00

Um so statutorily, I am um committed to retiring as of August 31st, 2026, uh which is next year, of course.

10:35:05

He'd go to the Bahamas.

10:35:07

So my time there.

10:35:08

But seriously, though, statutorily means you have to, or is there an opportunity to extend that if you chose to?

10:35:15

Uh that would be a decision, I think uh of the city manager and possibly a possible uh policy decision made by uh the commission.

10:35:24

Eric, I suppose.

10:35:27

I don't believe that I have the authority to make that decision unilaterally.

10:35:32

Uh I couldn't feel better about what the chief has done in the time that he's been in that role.

10:35:40

Um, but if that's something that this body wanted to entertain, I certainly would be open to the discussion.

10:35:47

Okay.

10:35:49

Um Chief, you'd have been absolutely incredible everything that you've done with the department and your team, um, from modernizing from releasing and launching the Arctic Center, the drones, uh getting fully staffed, um, the deployments that you've made in coordination with the state attorney's office.

10:36:08

Um you're available to everybody, whether it's a neighborhood association, us, uh regular resident.

10:36:15

Uh it really is a testament.

10:36:17

And the same thing to the command staff.

10:36:19

Everyone is wonderful.

10:36:20

Um Assistant Chief Danny Morgallo.

10:36:23

I text him all the time.

10:36:25

Gets right back, and I really appreciate the responsiveness.

10:36:29

And um you can't leave, it's too fast.

10:36:33

Let's entertain.

10:36:34

Yeah.

10:36:39

And to be clear, I will say this is not a reflection on the command staff and those people who might be next in line or for consideration.

10:36:48

It's not that at all.

10:36:49

It's just it feels like Chief Jones has been in this role for about six minutes, and it seems a little bit too short.

10:36:54

That's all.

10:36:55

Well, well, Tab, that's does uh move rather quickly, but I'd tell you I've got an incredible credible command staff, senior leaders in the organization, some of the best, I think, um, in the region, if not the country, and I brag about them all the time, but not for them, we would not be in a position we are in right now as a police department and as a city.

10:37:13

I'm pretty sure of it.

10:37:14

I don't even have a copy of this item, but I don't even understand what's going on.

10:37:19

What's going on?

10:37:20

Was this delivered to us?

10:37:22

What is it?

10:37:23

Yeah.

10:37:24

What was it?

10:37:26

It's as we heard several addendum items, it's an addendum item.

10:37:29

I yeah, but I don't have the addendum.

10:37:31

But I chief, I think you've done a great job.

10:37:33

Thank you.

10:37:36

Bobby, what is this?

10:37:38

It's it's it's discussing section regarding Iron Beach Police Department staffing.

10:37:43

Okay.

10:37:44

And so that's what we're doing.

10:37:49

Okay.

10:37:50

Bobby, did you want to be heard?

10:37:51

Yeah, there's a couple points.

10:37:52

Introduce yourself, uh Bobby Renat is president of FOP Lodge number eight.

10:37:56

Uh good evening, Mayor, Commissioners, Mr.

10:37:58

Manager, Mr.

10:37:59

DePico, and Mr.

10:38:00

Grenado.

10:38:01

There's two things going on here.

10:38:02

First, the chief, and I love the chief, known the chief forever.

10:38:06

We're really good friends, but we have a draw program.

10:38:08

And the union, we all made an agreement, we went in the drop that we would have an expiration date.

10:38:14

It's been done before, it's been attempted before.

10:38:16

It's gonna be very there's gonna be a lot of turmoil within the union if we go ahead and and I'm no hard feelings against the chief, but it drops a drop.

10:38:25

Once you sign into the drop program, you're basically promising that you're gonna leave in a certain time.

10:38:30

I went on the drop.

10:38:31

There's several members of the command stuff that are on the drop, and that's gonna be a big deal if we if we allow administrators or anybody to stay past their agreed term.

10:38:41

The second point is there is a succession plan that the mayor mentioned, and there's an opening right now for deputy chief.

10:38:47

We like what we have.

10:38:49

We've never had a closer relationship with City Hall, the three entities, commit mayor and commission, the staff at the police department and the rank and file, the boots on the ground.

10:38:58

It's never been better.

10:38:59

We had two magnificent spring breaks.

10:39:02

We've had two magnificent memorial days.

10:39:04

The relationship between the rank and file and the administration has never been more solid.

10:39:08

It's never been more solid than it is with on that dais with us.

10:39:12

We're working as a team, but there is a position open for deputy chief right now.

10:39:16

We have Chief Orgalo working at an acting capacity.

10:39:20

He's been doing a phenomenal job.

10:39:22

Uh we're three months away from next year.

10:39:25

Spring break is five months away.

10:39:27

And we need to have a leader in place working the position so we have a real succession plan, and it gives them a chance to start showing us what type of leaders are gonna be.

10:39:35

I don't like the way this is going down.

10:39:37

I did not get an item on this.

10:39:39

There's something very secretive about this.

10:39:41

I think our chief is doing a good job.

10:39:43

I think delivering an item with no where that I didn't even get.

10:39:48

And the this is dis it's disrespectful.

10:39:51

Commissioner, it's literally not transparent.

10:39:52

I think Commissioner, you put an item on after my item.

10:39:55

If you look at the I don't have this item anywhere, you literally put an item on that I called it.

10:40:00

What's it the items after my item?

10:40:01

I would like to read this item.

10:40:03

Can you read it for me?

10:40:05

Okay, could you read what you wrote on it?

10:40:07

Because the title doesn't say anything on it.

10:40:09

And I don't think business should be conducted like this.

10:40:18

Well, ma'am, I'm I'm I don't know why you're disappointed.

10:40:20

I don't represent you.

10:40:21

I represent my members.

10:40:22

And I'm telling you, we're not saying anything bad about the chief.

10:40:24

We're saying that he's gonna leave in August, like he signed up to.

10:40:27

If we go against our job, which is an agreement.

10:40:29

We haven't decided that.

10:40:30

I don't think that's your decision.

10:40:32

I think we make the policy decisions, and I think the city manager makes it.

10:40:35

Well, ma'am, there are a lot of people.

10:40:44

At the last moment, I am really good.

10:40:48

This is your leadership.

10:40:49

This is what we have to endure with your leadership.

10:40:52

Commissioner Gonzalez, he the you and I don't get a I mean look, for I we've had some real run-ins before.

10:40:58

I'm the only commissioner that has actually that is water on the bridge, but what he's saying may hold true.

10:41:04

There is an there's a rule written with the union with a rank and file that once you sign this paper, it's over.

10:41:13

And for him, and like I I can clear see it clearly.

10:41:16

He's not he's not denigrating the chief.

10:41:18

He's simply saying that if you do it for the chief, you're gonna have to do it for everyone.

10:41:21

And so you're gonna open up Pandora's box.

10:41:24

And so I hear what he's saying.

10:41:26

It makes sense.

10:41:27

This is what the contract's for.

10:41:30

If anything was different, sure, would I like to see Wayne's stay on?

10:41:33

He's doing a phenomenal job.

10:41:34

Ever since us three new commissioners got elected, this has been the safest spring break and memorial day that Miami Beach has ever seen in a couple decades.

10:41:44

And we should be we should be very thankful that especially to the chief, the city administration, and to the commission.

10:41:50

But what the what what Bobby's saying is we can't unilaterally do for one, we have to do it for everyone else.

10:41:56

And that's true.

10:41:57

Because you we can't pick winners and losers.

10:41:59

Because then everyone else is gonna say, well, you know, hey, uh well, if you did it for the chief, why not for me?

10:42:05

So I if I could just be heard for a second.

10:42:07

So I I brought up an item about s uh staffing uh which includes succession.

10:42:12

Uh a different commissioner brought up about an issue that I did not anticipate being brought up today about uh about who would continue as chief.

10:42:20

That was not my item, and I can't control, and obviously this is an open discussion, and that's what one of the commissioners brought up.

10:42:25

Uh I did not bring that item and I did not intend to.

10:42:28

Um I think I think we uh we said our our piece.

10:42:32

Uh it's a good discussion.

10:42:34

It's a healthy discussion, and we'll uh continue.

10:42:37

Thank you, Mayor.

10:42:37

Thank you.

10:42:38

Thank you.

10:42:38

Mr.

10:42:39

Mayor.

10:42:40

I was gonna say that's adjourned.

10:42:42

Okay.

10:42:44

Pete PJ, can you come down?

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Summary of Proceedings

Miami Beach City Commission Meeting - September 17, 2025

The City of Miami Beach Commission met on September 17, 2025, addressing a broad agenda that included honoring Holocaust survivor David Schachter, anti-Semitism and BDS resolutions, water quality in Parkview Canal, lobbying ethics, parking regulations, the FY2026 budget, and public safety. The meeting featured extensive public comment and multiple votes on ordinances and resolutions.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved consent agenda excluding separated items C7W, C7G, and C7J (C7J later reconsidered).
  • Addendum items deferred to after 5 p.m.
  • Appointments to boards and committees deferred to the new commission after elections, except for a direct appointment from Hebrew Academy (Rabbi Seth Gutenberg approved by acclamation).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Multiple speakers addressed the honoring of David Schachter, with some criticizing the resolution as stifling free speech and others supporting it as a stand against anti-Semitism.
  • Speakers expressed concern over water quality in Parkview Canal and beaches, urging the city to prioritize funding and remediation.
  • Several artist vendors opposed changes to the street vendor ordinance, arguing they were not properly consulted and that the new restrictions harm their livelihoods.
  • Residents of Belle Isle spoke about a $1.2 million agreement between a developer and a neighborhood association, alleging lack of transparency and community input.
  • A supporter of the homeless bus ticket proposal noted that many homeless individuals want to return home, while opponents called it inhumane.
  • Presentations from FPL and regarding wellness programming were also heard.

Discussion Items

  • R5E & R5F (School Incentives): Approved comprehensive plan and zoning amendments to provide FAR and height incentives for school development, with an exception for North Beach. Both passed 7-0.
  • R5A (40th Street Overlay): Approved on first reading (7-0) after discussion on rooftop use for weddings; planning staff to analyze possible amendments before second reading on October 29.
  • R7M (Notable Cases on MBPD Website): Approved (7-0) to post case information on the police department website and social media to increase transparency on habitual offenders and judicial outcomes. Commissioner Bott suggested a separate channel for social media.
  • R5K (Lobbyist Ethics): After extensive debate and a motion to defer, the item was reconsidered and passed as amended (7-0). The amendment requires lobbyists to disclose monetary or non-monetary consideration over $1,000 provided to neighborhood associations for support or non-objection. The ordinance strengthens contingency fee prohibitions and clarifies registration requirements for neighborhood association representatives.
  • C7G (Padel Courts at Fifth and Alton Garage): Approved (7-0) to allow a 10-court padel facility on the rooftop, swapping city-owned spaces from the roof to covered parking. No loss of city parking spaces.
  • R9AD (North Beach Water Quality): Approved (7-0) to authorize independent third-party review of pump station 23, weekly water quality testing at Parkview Canal, and expedite permitting for nanobubble technology, with continued work on dredging.
  • R5T (Private Parking Lot Signage): Approved on first reading (7-0) to require decals at payment sites indicating private lots, with discussion on using mobile app notifications.
  • R5J (Delivery Robots): Opened and continued to October 29 to refine regulations on idling times and auditory signals, after debate on 30-minute idling times and beeping concerns.
  • R5S (Home Solicitation): Approved as amended on first reading (7-0), requiring a business tax receipt and adding a warning for first offense. Exempts First Amendment activities.
  • R5V & R5W (Anti-BDS and Anti-Discrimination): Both approved on first reading (7-0). R5V focuses on anti-Semitism and BDS; R5W applies to other protected classes under the city's human rights ordinance. Public comment opposed the measures as limiting free speech.
  • R5H (Parking Rates): Approved on second reading (7-0) to pause CPI adjustment for residential parking rates for FY2026 and formalize monthly garage rates.
  • R7S (Art Week Transportation): Discussed; need to identify $130,000 funding gap for enhanced service. Referred to budget process. Also discussed coordination with Coast Guard on Venetian Bridge openings.
  • R5I (Plastic Decorations Ban): Approved on second reading (7-0) to prohibit plastic-related or metalized decorations at public marinas, parks, and beaches to reduce microplastic pollution.
  • R5N & R5O: Approved on first reading: R5N (notice requirements for canceled meetings) and R5O (habitual offender definition, requiring resolution of violations before zoning changes, though no moratorium due to state preemption).
  • R9Z (Sidewalk Repair Program): Continued to October 29 with co-sponsors to address utility cut restoration and sidewalk conditions, especially in North Beach.
  • R7C-R7G (Budget & Millage): Tentative budgets and millage rates adopted for FY2026 with a flat millage rate of 6.1481 mills. Over $502,000 in one-time enhancements approved for various programs including senior meals, wellness, swim week, and flag football. Reduced Winterpalooza funding by $50,000 to fund flag football. Final budget hearing set for September 30, 2025.
  • R9AE (Police Staffing): Discussion item. Chief Jones announced full staffing for first time in ~15 years. Succession planning underway with internal candidates. Union president raised concerns about extending DROP retirement for the chief, emphasizing contractual obligations.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved several first- and second-reading ordinances including school incentives, ethics reforms, parking signage, plastic ban, and home solicitation regulations.
  • Deferred lobbyist ethics (R5K) initially but reconsidered and passed with amendment shifting disclosure responsibility to lobbyists.
  • Continued sidewalk repair program and delivery robot ordinance for further refinement.
  • Adopted tentative FY2026 budgets and millage rates; final adoption scheduled for September 30, 2025.
  • Directed staff to seek RDA funding for a playground at Pride Park.
  • Policy direction to pursue internal succession for police chief, honoring union contract provisions regarding DROP.
  • Set second reading dates for many items on October 29, 2025.

Meeting Transcript

Welcome to the City of Miami Beach Commission Chambers. We're glad to have you with us today. If you require ADA assistance or accommodations, please notify the city clerk or any staff member, and we will be happy to assist you. Mayor Steven Miner. City Commissioners, Kristen Rosen Gonzalez. Laura Dominguez. Alex J. Fernandez. Tanya K. Bott, David Suarez. Joseph Magazine. Lobbyist Disclosure Reminder. If you are a lobbyist appearing before the City Commission or any city board, you must have registered with the City Clerk prior to participating. If you have not yet registered, please do so immediately. Presentation reminder. If you submitted a presentation within the 24 hours prior to the start of today's meeting, please check the computer located at the podium to ensure your file is properly loaded. How to participate in public meetings via Zoom. As soon as the host grants you permission to speak, a dialog box will pop up on your screen with two options. Select the unmute button to begin speaking. After you finish speaking, mute your microphone and click on the lower hand icon. Please take your seats. The meeting is about to begin. Remember to speak into the microphone as this meeting is being recorded for public record. Please stand by. Good morning, and welcome to our commission meeting of today, September seventeenth. Thank you to my colleagues who are here, all our residents and guests who are in the chambers and obviously watching. Ralph, any instructions? Yes, sir. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. During this hybrid commission meeting, the city commission is physically present in the commission chambers at Miami Beach City Hall, seventeen hundred, conventional center drive, third floor. The public is invited to attend the meeting virtually. However, members of the public who wish to attend the meeting or provide public comments in person may appear at the commission chamber. To participate or provide comments virtually during the commission meeting, the public may join the meeting by visiting the Zoom app on their smart device on the web at Zoom. Or by telephone at three oh five two four nineteen sixty-eight. Again, the local number is three oh five two two two four nineteen sixty eight. Toll free is eight eight eight four seven five four four nine nine. The webinar ID is eight one three nine two eight five seven six seventy one pound. Again, webinar ID eight one three nine two eight five seven six seventy-one pound. Members of the public wanting to speak virtually on an item during the meeting, must click the raise hand icon of using the Zoom app or spread or press star nine on the telephone to raise their hand. Please note that the Zoom link, webinar ID, and telephone numbers provided for this commission meeting are static and do not change from meeting to meeting. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. We're going to do the Pledge of Allegiance. I think our whole country was horrified, no matter what side of the aisle anyone is on, the violence that we're seeing in our country against political figures, against political speech, the senseless violence, it's disgusting. It has to end. We can't continue as a country like this if we can't have an open and respectful dialogue, no matter how much we may disagree. And just the rhetoric, the division is is it's it's so it's so disgusting to me. I've I've always prided myself of staying positive, talking about the issues, and and I think I'm asking that we all, and not just here on my beach, but all of us in this country need to do the same. We're not gonna be a better country from violence.

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