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City of Miami Beach Commission Meeting - February 5, 2026

City Commission MeetingsThursday, February 5, 2026
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DateThursday, February 5, 2026
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0:20

Welcome to the City of Miami Beach Commission Chambers.

0:23

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0:26

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0:41

Mayor Steven Miner.

2:31

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2:39

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2:43

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2:45

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2:55

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3:06

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We are going on air in five, four, three, two, one.

8:20

Good morning, and welcome to the commission meeting of February fifth, twenty twenty six.

8:24

I'll turn to our city clerk, Raphael Granado to give us any pertinent instructions.

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9:17

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9:24

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9:29

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9:34

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9:40

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9:48

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9:58

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10:01

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10:11

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10:20

Mayor, we have one announcement regarding the beachfront management plan ad hoc advisory committee.

10:26

The City of Miami Beach announces an upcoming public meeting of the Beachfront Management Plan and Ad hoc advisory committee.

10:31

This meeting will be held on Tuesday, March 10th from 2 p.m.

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to 5 p.m.

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at City Hall, 1700 Convention Center Drive in the City Manager's Conference Room, or on the fourth floor.

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On the fourth floor, members of the public are welcome to attend in person or log in via Zoom at the webinar ID is 845-009-276-24.

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Again, 845-009-27624.

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The public can also call 305-224-1968 or toll-free 888-475-4499.

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Again, the webinar ID is 845-009-27624.

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The purpose of this meeting is to review and provide input on the city's updated beachfront management plan.

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The plan outlines property uses, management activities, concession operations, special event permits, requirements, dune management strategies, and other key initiatives to ensure the sustainable management of our beachfront.

11:25

The draft the draft plan will be available 30 days prior to the meeting for public review.

11:30

We encourage all interested residents and stakeholders to participate in this important discussion.

11:34

You're for more information, please call 305-673-7084, or to learn more about this item, please visit report an informational item two in today's agenda.

11:45

Thank you, Mayor.

11:45

I sign you.

11:46

Thank you so much.

11:47

We uh I'd like to call up Rabbi David Weberman.

11:51

Uh Robert Weberman comes from a very beautiful and prominent family, rabbinical family, pillars of the Miami Beach community, and I'm honored that you're here today.

12:02

Thank you, Mayor.

12:03

Good morning.

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Let us offer a brief moment of prayer and reflection, asking for divine guidance as we begin today's meeting.

12:12

Our Father in Heaven, the mayor and commissioners are gathered here today to hear the concerns of Miami Beach residents and to make decisions for the welfare of our city.

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Inspire them to draw upon their intelligence, education, and experience, and to act with fairness, wisdom, and integrity.

12:33

Guide the administration to implement these decisions professionally and efficiently.

12:39

As petitioners present differing views and interests.

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Grant that those who requests are approved show appreciation, and that those whose requests are denied, accept the outcome with dignity and grace.

12:58

We pray for the tranquility in Washington, that all parties be guided toward mutual respect, responsibility, and unity for the good of our nation.

13:10

Bring an end to the violence in troubled areas around the world, and grant your blessing of peace to all humanity.

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May your divine light shine upon our city, our county, and our state.

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And may God bless the United States of America.

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Amen.

13:28

Thank you, Rabbi Weberman.

13:32

I see the former mayor of Bal Harbor, Gabe Groisman here.

13:35

I'd like to ask him to come up and start us off with the Pledge of Allegiance.

13:51

One nation on the individual.

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Liberty is justice for all.

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Thank you.

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We did not have a meeting in January.

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We'll have several meetings in February.

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Looking forward to working with all of you.

14:10

And we will now start the uh Setnik hour.

14:13

Yes, Mayor.

14:15

Anyone who wishes to speak, could could you please, if you're able, cue up so I know where you are.

14:21

Um approach the podium when you're called.

14:24

Given the number of individuals that are in line, we're going to start with one minute.

14:28

And uh who is first?

14:31

Go ahead, please.

14:35

Good morning to all of you on the day.

14:38

I'm the first in line.

14:40

I sign to stand in line.

14:45

Exactly.

14:46

She was first in line.

14:47

Ma'am, we have a seat.

14:49

But they're getting a sign-up sheet today.

14:52

Yeah, the sign-up sheet.

14:53

I sign for the case.

14:54

Hi.

14:55

Mayor and commissioners, my name is Brendan Jordan.

14:57

I've been a resident of Miami Beach for 30 years.

15:01

And I'm very disappointed in how I'm being treated as an artist.

15:07

As we just made the pleasure of allegiance with liberty and justice for all.

15:13

As an artist, I've been bullied by this commission.

15:19

Because I wasn't able to, any artists weren't able to be involved in the setting up of this program, the artist vendor program.

15:29

People who have no credentials in the art, no background of anything, um, putting this program together.

15:38

I've asked all of you for meetings to rectify and find out what's going on.

15:45

This program was set up with and the law was passed without the sunshine law being honored.

15:53

We did not get a chance to look at the ordinance before it was set up.

15:59

Thank you, Mr.

16:00

That's not fair.

16:01

Another thing is that none of you have, especially the mayor, you are the head of this commission, and you have not given me a chance to come to your office.

16:11

Thank you.

16:13

It's unfair, unconscionable.

16:15

We're being bullied into paying more money with no input without any honoring what we go through as artists.

16:27

None of you have come to my table.

16:29

None of you, I have a video of what I have to go through to set up all my raw materials.

16:36

You you have my commitment, we'll schedule a time to meet.

16:39

This has been years.

16:40

I know.

16:41

We've talked.

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Next, please.

16:43

Go ahead.

16:44

Approach the podium.

16:47

Good morning.

16:47

My name is Raquel Pacheco, Miami Beach resident and local activist.

16:52

On January 12th at around 2 p.m., two armed officers knocked on my door because of a Facebook comment I made on the mayor's page.

17:01

Think about that for a second.

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A comment on Facebook, and the response was to send law enforcement to my home.

17:08

What happened next was explosive.

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I shared the video with friends and colleagues, and within hours the media had it.

17:15

The story didn't just circulate, it detonated.

17:18

It went national and then global.

17:20

People across the political spectrum, Republicans, Democrats, and Independents were united in their reaction.

17:27

Disbelief, outreach, and a deep sense of alarm over what happened in our city.

17:33

My life changed instantly.

17:34

For nearly three weeks, I've been flooded with media inquiries every single day.

17:38

And to this day, the world is talking about Miami Beach.

17:41

The world is talking about what happened to me.

17:44

And yet, not one of you has had one word to say about this incident.

17:48

Not one of you has stood up to affirm the First Amendment rights of the residents you represent.

17:53

Nothing but silence when the moment demanded courage.

17:56

I request a few more seconds, please.

17:59

Just wrap it up, please.

18:00

Thank you.

18:00

So let me be clear.

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I can do you can disagree with me, you can criticize me, you can mock me, insult me and try to tear down my character.

18:06

That is your right protected by the U.S.

18:08

Constitution.

18:09

But what you cannot do, what no government official can ever do is weaponize the police to intimidate a citizen for speaking.

18:15

That crosses a line so bright, so fundamental, the entire world recognized it instantly.

18:20

The shame this brings upon our city and upon the values our country is supposed to represent is immeasurable.

18:24

And I stand here today with one hope that this moment becomes the line in the sand.

18:28

The disabus of power ends at my doorstep.

18:31

And no Miami Beach Redden should ever experience what I did.

18:34

Because if government can silence one voice, you can silence all voices.

18:38

Next, please.

18:52

This ordinance helps strengthen Lincoln Road as a premier pedestrian destination by allowing controlled indoor entertainment that enhances enhances the visitor experience.

19:02

It supports business activity, attracts quality restaurants, and does so while protecting neighborhood quality of life.

19:09

We see this as a win-win.

19:11

Um I have, I'm not sure if you all saw the support letter signed by Lyle Stern, our president.

19:16

I can leave a copy.

19:18

Um the second item, which I don't know if where we landed on this, is in regards to spring break.

19:25

The Lincoln Road bid asked that all parking garages and surface lots remain open during spring break with the closure of Draxula Meridian.

19:33

Keeping parking accessible is critical to supporting Lincoln Road businesses as the corridor continues working towards its major comeback.

19:42

Thank you.

19:43

Thank you so much.

19:43

Next, please.

19:45

Mr.

19:45

Mayor.

19:46

Would it be possible?

19:48

We had an assignment.

19:50

She was number one.

19:51

Yes.

19:52

And I had asked our city manager too.

19:54

Thank you.

19:58

Good morning to all of you on the day.

20:03

Secretary to the board at Bell Plaza Condominium and a proud member of the Bureau Board of Bell Oil Residence Association.

20:12

I'm here to talk about an what I call an unsung hero, the South Beach Care Center.

20:19

They are a phenomen.

20:21

And I know many people don't know about it, and I've spoken to people, and they tell me they never heard of it.

20:28

It's on First and Collins Avenue.

20:31

It is a wonderful rehab place.

20:34

My husband is there now, and if he has a chance to survive, it will be at this place.

20:40

And I want to give a shout out to all the nurses and the administrator Barry and all the aides that are helping keeping him alive and the other residents there.

20:51

It is really a wonderful rehab center.

20:54

And I want to commend Commissioner Fernandez for coming to visit Gary the other day.

21:02

And thank you for listening to me.

21:04

Thank you, Ms.

21:04

Rudd.

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Know about this place and spread the word.

21:08

It is a wonderful, wonderful care with absolutely competent, compassionate care.

21:16

And that's what people need that are there for, in addition to the doctors.

21:20

Thank you so much.

21:22

Next, please.

21:27

My name is Pamela Mayer, and I'm a longtime resident of Miami Beach.

21:32

I'm here today.

21:33

Um I'm the vice chair of the Miami Beach Commission for Women, Dr.

21:38

Lynette Long is out of the country.

21:40

We're asking for the $10,000 allotment for the women's conference be used instead for four events.

21:48

The Commission for Women is hosting this year.

21:51

The following are the mural honoring Marjorie Stoneman Douglas, our annual 10 exemplary women event featuring large posters on Ocean Walk between 8th and 9th Street, a reception and MDL and public invited to the unveiling of the posters.

22:09

The Florida Historical Marker honoring Josephine Baker, who sang at the Copa City Club and refused if there wasn't an integrated audience.

22:20

A marker is already in place in Tallahassee and currently in production.

22:25

And a four panel discussion on timely women's issues.

22:29

Due to limited funds, sunshine law restrictions, and et cetera, we need that allotment.

22:35

One second.

22:36

These two events, these four events will be occurring in less than a month.

22:40

They begin.

22:41

So we really need, I have a sense of urgency.

22:44

Thank you.

22:45

Thank you.

22:45

Next, please.

22:48

I have this time at two minutes and 15 seconds.

22:52

Ladies and gentlemen, I request, my name is Monica Tracy.

22:55

Um 1983 Beach residents.

22:58

Ladies and gentlemen, I request that you move forward on exploration for a small bird bath in Belle Isle Park.

23:05

For five years, I've been feeding the birds there daily from the first bird feeder in a public park in Miami Beach.

23:10

Kids use that play area, see the birds nearby, the feeder each day, and hopefully it impresses them that we live alongside nature and they may grow up and help us heal our environment.

23:19

I also volunteer at Pelican Harbor, and I see the devastation we wreak on our urban wildlife.

23:25

They struggle to survive and reproduce.

23:27

Developers and the city both plant decorative plants that have no food value.

23:31

In addition to the seed feeder, I keep a second feeder filled with beef fat that their little bodies need.

23:37

They eat a lot of the suet in the winter.

23:39

Our wildlife also need clean water.

23:41

Drought is becoming more common here.

23:43

I'm sure you've all seen birds drinking sewage water with filth in it.

23:48

Some squirrels have returned to the park and they need water too, with others for mammals.

23:54

Dogs have a drinking fountain, plastic bag dispensers, and two huge fenced areas to run.

23:59

You can think of this project as just another drinking fountain.

24:04

Sorry.

24:04

Thank you.

24:05

Thank you.

24:05

Next, please.

24:07

Yes, this is hard to watch.

24:12

Go ahead, please.

24:17

Good morning.

24:19

My name is Paul Thomas, and I am here as a patient advocate in support of the item regarding the ADAP program defunding.

24:28

I would like to ask the support of the City of Miami Beach Commission, Mayor, and City Manager in advocating for the state to restore the funds to the ADA program.

24:38

Zip code 33139 has the highest incidence of HIV in the state of Florida.

24:46

These are life-saving medications which are being taken from our friends, neighbors, and loved ones.

24:51

I would also like to ask the City of Miami Beach to communicate with any federal regulatory agencies which have the ability to assist in the accounting to join in assisting the State Department of Health with finding the funds for the program.

25:07

Finally, I would like to point out the undue strain that this will put on the rest of the health care system.

25:14

If people lose access to their healthcare health care insurance in a couple of weeks, the okay, one second.

25:21

The health insurance is also helping them manage their heart disease, kidney disease, and cancer treatment.

25:28

We have to address this immediately.

25:30

Thank you very much.

25:31

Next, please go ahead, sir.

25:43

Good morning.

25:43

My name is Miles Davis.

25:45

I serve as Director of Advocacy and Communications for Save, where South Florida's leading and one of the largest advocacy and civic organizations in the state.

25:53

I'm here today to speak in support of item R70, sponsored by Commissioner Tanya Baugh, and item C7AY, sponsored by Commissioner Alex Fernandez and Mayor Stephen Minor.

26:04

We know when FDOT removed the rainbow brick pavers from Miami Beach.

26:08

This was never just about pavement, it was always about power, whether the state could decide which communities are allowed to be visible in public space.

26:16

That removal came with overreach, intimidation, and harassment, and it sent a chilling message to our residents.

26:22

Save alongside our coalition partners stepped up to defend more than brick pavers.

26:27

We defended local control, dignity, and the right of Miami Beach to reflect its values.

26:32

We are showing up again today with SAFE members here in person and on Zoom because this still matters.

26:38

This is also why item R70 matters.

26:40

Installing these salvaged brick pavers at Loomis Park makes clear that intimidation does not get the final word and that Miami Beach will not erase its LGBTQ plus community or its history.

26:51

Thank you.

26:52

Next, please my name is CineS Flags.

27:03

I've been in resident of Miami Beach for 26 years.

27:06

I live at 1500 Ocean Drive.

27:09

I'm just here to speak against the ministerialization of Ocean Drive.

27:17

I'm here to um make a polite request that uh that you bring Ocean Drive back to a two-way street parking and make it vibrant again.

27:32

I mean, when the street was a two-way, it was the most vibrant ocean drive or street in the world.

27:41

And we need to stop, you know, playing the games one way, two ways.

27:45

You close two blocks.

27:46

You thought you want to close the entire street, and that will just not just make traffic worse, but you're gonna end up with ocean drive closed making traffic worse, and ten other uh ciliary streets that are gonna all be dead end without any turnaround.

28:03

So thank you.

28:04

Thank you so much.

28:05

Next, please.

28:10

Yes, good morning.

28:11

My name is Roberto La Torre.

28:13

I emailed you.

28:14

Each of you, I as a property owner on Washington Avenue for more than 50 years.

28:19

I hope that you have the opportunity to drive by and see the condition of the Abbey.

28:24

You know, the school that we have find Bert Fisher is under capacity, and he goes to eighth grade.

28:29

That means that we don't have students to fill it up.

28:33

I hope that you guys do the right thing.

28:35

I think it is the best for this for this street.

28:38

Uh I hope that uh with all the difference aside, uh, hope to vote for what is good for districts.

28:46

Thank you.

28:47

Thank you.

28:48

Next, please.

28:54

Steve Bubba Cohen, what biased political activist Raquel Pacheco attempted to frame as a questionable First Amendment issue, was in reality a situation that carried the potential to incite violence by anti-Semit, anti-Semites, anarchists, and mentally unstable.

29:16

Authors did not arrive at your house with guns drawn.

29:20

They didn't place you in handcuffs.

29:23

Anyone who actually watched the video clearly saw the Miami Beach police department acted calmly, politely, and professionally in questioning her about whether she authorized the incendiary and potentially dangerous comments against Mayor Minor.

29:42

Mayor Minor, an Orthodox Jew.

29:46

She claimed consistently calls for the death of all Palestinians.

29:51

It's not only false, but it's reckless.

29:54

And it's dangerous, especially in today's volatile climate.

30:00

By manipulating, no, two minutes is what's supposed to be here.

30:03

I I was part of the group that got the Sutnik hour.

30:08

I knew Dr.

30:08

Sutnik.

30:09

I'm friends with both of his sons, and you arbitrarily changed the rules to one minute.

30:15

I I had uh a two-minute speech here, and I'm gonna give my two-minute speech.

30:21

And if you want to detain me, then detain me because I'm gonna finish my speech.

30:26

And I hope everyone on the dais has enough common sense to let me continue.

30:31

So we're gonna say offering some.

30:41

Okay, Governor Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania had his house set on fire with Molotov cocktails.

30:50

The person attempted to kill him because does this sound familiar?

30:56

Later the attacker later stated because of perceived injustice towards the people of Palestine.

31:02

Does that sound familiar, Ms.

31:04

Pacheco, to what you said?

31:07

No, I think it does.

31:09

Okay.

31:10

In today's volatile environment, I congratulate the commission.

31:16

I congratulate Mayor Minor, I congratulate Chief Jones, and most of all, I congratulate the Miami Beach Police Department for the way they acted professionally, courtesily, with courtesy, and in addressing that issue.

31:38

Next, please next.

31:45

Good morning.

31:46

My name is Janet Figueroa, one of the artist vendors here in the city of Miami Beach.

31:50

As you all know, you've seen me here before.

31:52

We are trying to change this um ordinance that's going on right now, which is very biased and is keeping us from working, making a living.

32:00

I feel that it should be revoked and put back the old way.

32:05

And we should be able to work.

32:07

I am a taxpayer, I am a citizen of the United States.

32:11

I am Puerto Rican.

32:13

So I want to know, since the time I've been here so many times over, this is my last time coming here, asking politely, respectfully of all of you to revoke this old ordinance and put it back for I could be able to work due to this.

32:29

My stress level went so high that I had to make a loan.

32:33

I landed in the hospital because of this.

32:37

This is not fair to me.

32:39

It's not fair to any of these people.

32:41

Now they're part of this program for years.

32:43

I've been in this program ten years.

32:45

It's time to do things right by these people.

32:49

Thank you.

32:50

Next, please.

32:53

Otherwise, I will look for legal counsel.

32:55

I will sue you personally, and I will have to sue the city of Miami Beach.

32:59

Take your page.

33:06

Hi, good morning.

33:07

My name is Helena Gomez.

33:09

I'm also Addis Vendor of the Miami Beach Program.

33:12

And I would like to say that the ordinance that the new ordinance appears to restrict what non-resident artists may serve relative to residents.

33:22

We question both the logic and legality on this distinction.

33:27

Artist expression does not lose value based on residence and residency.

33:32

Miami Beach Cultural Violity depends on the excellence, diversity, and openness, not geographic exclusion.

33:41

Miami Beach artists are not adversaries of the city.

33:45

We are partners in the its identity and economy.

33:49

We stand ready to collaborate in solution that honor free expression, economic reality, and the sheriff public real.

33:57

Thank you.

33:58

Thank you so much.

33:59

Next, please.

34:06

David Wallach, I concur.

34:08

One minute is not enough time to present anything to you people.

34:12

And that's an embarrassment.

34:15

In regards to, I didn't get to um, I want to thank you for having that uh meeting the other day regarding spring break.

34:22

Spring break is an essential, but I didn't get to uh uh let you know that March itself this year is different in the sense of Lady Gaga is performing in Miami.

34:34

Second week.

34:36

The tourniquet that we put on uh MacArthur Causeway, you need to look at that, because when that concert breaks, a lot of great people, that is not gonna be a bad crowd.

34:47

A lot of great people are gonna be coming to the beach, and that should be in a time where we don't have them sitting for two hours trying to get across the causeway.

34:57

The third week, our team of police need to remain vigilant.

35:01

We don't have anything that's really going to be something that really changes, and the third week traditionally is the worst week we have.

35:09

Thank you, sir.

35:10

The fourth week is Ultra.

35:12

Ultra is a great crowd.

35:14

Traditionally, no problems, and again, relieve the tourniquet on MacArthur Causeway at the end of the Ultra uh conference so that they can get to the beach.

35:27

Thank you.

35:28

And I also consider it a huge embarrassment to this city that armed police, which I respect amazingly, are here at the podium person after person.

35:41

That should be on the news.

35:43

That's an embarrassment to you all.

35:48

Next, please.

35:54

Commissioner.

35:56

Um I'm sorry.

35:58

Uh Mr.

35:59

Mayor.

36:01

Commissioners.

36:03

My name is Shapiro Sam Feldman.

36:08

I have been a resident of Miami Beach since 1968.

36:15

And I am a veteran.

36:21

Um I went into the military because I promised to live the life of never again.

36:36

My parents are survivors of the Holocaust.

36:46

And that is a very sensitive issue for me.

36:54

So when two police officers show up at anybody's door for having written an article that's non-threatening, I consider that fascism.

37:18

And that is textbook fascism.

37:27

And I think that all of you should be ashamed, and all of you should be apologetic, including the police chief.

37:36

Thank you, sir.

37:37

Thank you.

37:38

Next, please.

37:44

Good morning, Mr.

37:45

Mayor, City Commission, Police Chief Jones.

37:48

My name is Joe Zevellone.

37:49

I'm a property owner here on Miami Beach, a proud property owner in Miami Beach.

37:53

Um I'm a Jew, I'm an Israeli American, and I'm a I'm part of a bereaved family that just lost.

38:00

I lost my cousin to a terrorist attack in Judana, Samaria.

38:04

Two armed terrorists who were also police officers of the Palestinian Authority, Ms.

38:12

Pacheco.

38:14

My cousin was loading up his groceries in the back of his car, and the two cowards jumped him from the back and stabbed him continuously until he lost his life.

38:26

By fighting them, I want to mention his name here so everybody knows.

38:29

His name is Shalev Zevelloni, same last name as mine.

38:33

Remember that name.

38:36

He fought them.

38:37

He fought them hard, and by doing so, he prevented the loss of lives of other shoppers that were there at that supermarket.

38:45

I want to say a couple of things.

38:46

As a bereaved family, I would like to get an extension of at least a minute, like the other person did.

38:51

I would like to say if Ms.

38:53

Pacheco really cared about the rights of the LGBT, like she wrote in the post.

39:00

She should condemn Hamas for not allowing LGBT to exist anywhere in Gaza.

39:06

A woman does not have rights in Gaza.

39:09

A woman cannot even run to political office, just like the distinguished uh commissioners that we have here that are ladies.

39:14

Thank you, sir.

39:15

Also, a woman cannot.

39:16

I'm almost done.

39:17

Three seconds.

39:19

A woman cannot even walk or travel anywhere inside Gaza without a chaperone, being her father or her husband.

39:26

That is the community that she's defending.

39:29

Thank you.

39:33

Next, please.

39:36

Hold on.

39:37

Mr.

39:38

Mayor.

39:40

Good morning.

39:41

Mr.

39:41

Mayor.

39:42

Hi, my name is Troy Wright, executive director of the Washington Avenue.

39:46

Mr.

39:46

Mayor.

39:46

I would just be I would just like to request.

39:50

We're putting our officers in a difficult position, asking them to stop people after a minute.

40:00

If we could restore the two minutes so that everyone has a fair amount of time to speak without having our officers of them that decide that they individually decide to give them a few extra seconds or not.

40:08

Commissioner, since since you're not the mayor, you maybe not get the complaints I have.

40:12

I get numerous complaints from residents that we are using, we are taking away from the city business.

40:18

There are many ways to reach us.

40:23

I am not turning a single person down.

40:25

By the way, there are many municipalities, even nearby.

40:28

They once the 30 minutes hit, they shut it off.

40:31

I am not doing that.

40:32

I'm letting every person who wants to speak to speak.

40:35

But we have city business, and I am getting complaints from people that we're spending too much time.

40:40

Um it's important, it's important.

40:43

But we all and I'm listening to everybody.

40:45

Unlike other you could look around other municipalities.

40:48

I'm giving everybody the opportunity, but we have to get to the business of the people, and that's that's what we're here for.

40:54

This is the business.

40:55

Yes, and everyone is getting to speak.

40:56

I am not turning anyone away.

40:58

Good morning.

41:00

My name is Troy Wright, Director of Washington Avenue.

41:02

Um we spoke yesterday at the spring break meeting, and we let our voice be heard.

41:07

We appreciate that.

41:09

Um we have a few concerns regarding the resident item that's coming up later, not a lot.

41:13

But I'm here because I want to honor an amazing person.

41:17

His name was Angel Diaz.

41:19

If you ever had the opportunity to go to Max Club Deuce, the oldest bar in the state of Florida, right here off of Washington between Washington and Collins.

41:28

You undoubtedly saw Angel over the last 15 to 20 years.

41:31

An amazing man.

41:32

So I want to take my last 30 seconds of silence just for Angel because he was such an amazing person and a pillar of this community.

41:42

You can cut it off when you need to to the next person, but thank you.

41:45

Just a few minutes of silence would be amazing.

41:47

Thank you.

41:49

Thank you, sir.

41:51

Next, please.

41:57

This is the business of the city.

42:00

Public comment is the business of the city.

42:02

People prepared two minutes of comment, they should be allowed their two minutes of comment, not this arbitrary First Amendment violation, because it's a new year, a new national embarrassment, another abuse of power, another First Amendment violation.

42:17

By you, Mr.

42:18

Mayor.

42:18

This unconstitutional misuse of law enforcement resources must must stop.

42:23

It's bad for morale and it leads to more lawsuits.

42:26

Commissioners, you have the power.

42:28

This is what you were elected to do.

42:30

Please pass policies that defend the constitution and stop the weaponization of government against residents who dare disagree with the mayor.

42:38

And fix your broken public record system that allows the subject of a request to cover up our records potentially in violation of state law.

42:46

Each one of you has the same vote on this dais as the mayor does, and you arguably have a bigger mandate.

42:51

Why?

42:52

Because every single one of you, with one exception, sorry, Joe, was elected with a far greater margin than the mayor was.

43:00

No further than last night's state of the city attendance was pathetic.

43:03

Just a few county commissioners, one Miami City Commissioner, not a single mayor.

43:07

I like the same courtesy that other people received, please.

43:10

That's all.

43:11

I'm almost done.

43:13

Just a few county commissioners, one Miami City Commissioner, not a single other mayor came to your state of the city.

43:18

You didn't even have a quorum of Miami Beach Commissioners.

43:22

Nobody wants to be seen with you.

43:23

You're an embarrassment.

43:25

One day, people will say your name and children will spin draggers.

43:31

Thank you.

43:32

Happy New Year.

43:33

Next, please.

43:35

I'll just say uh Mr.

43:36

Cohen.

43:37

Uh actually, the the there was not a available seat literally in the House last night.

43:40

It was a great crowd in a great state of the city.

43:42

So thank you.

43:43

And thank you for coming.

43:45

Next, please.

43:47

Good morning, Mayor and Commissioners.

43:49

Presidents and neighbors.

43:51

I think it's time that we tone this down.

43:54

This is not good for a city.

43:58

The Bayes has to work for the people, the residents, not one cause.

44:09

This is what's bringing this whole back and forth, including myself.

44:14

Everybody's divided.

44:15

I'm divided.

44:17

I'm torn.

44:19

I can't sleep at night.

44:20

This is just very shameful.

44:23

Going to that.

44:24

Um, this is an item in the uh agenda, our 7M, if I'm not mistaken, might bring the same exact problem that is happening now.

44:34

A bust of a foreign national general from South America into our Normandy fountain next to the American flag.

44:44

This is gonna bring an outrage, just as like it's happening now.

44:49

Why different causes different causes?

44:53

We just have to let's have the American flag that represents unity for all of us.

45:00

We all Americans.

45:01

We should all abide by that.

45:02

And thank you.

45:04

Mayor, there's no one else in the audience.

45:06

We're going to go to Zoom.

45:07

Mr.

45:07

Carr, please unmute yourself, Tim Carr.

45:12

Good morning, everyone.

45:12

This is Tim Carr, Shelby West Neighborhood Association.

45:15

I just wanted to comment on a couple of quick items.

45:18

R5AA, stop the pause.

45:20

This is a great initiative, but I'd also ask that you include in the discussion that residents are evolved way before you get to the 60% complete completion phase design, so that you can have the most productive project as possible.

45:35

And regarding R5B and R5C that you'll be discussing today with respect to the Lib local housing mandates from Tallahassee.

45:44

This is a great proactive approach by the city to really focus on meeting residential housing needs.

45:50

So again, we look forward to your input and the planning board's input and residents input on a very productive discussion on this matter as well.

45:57

Thank you.

45:57

Thank you, Mr.

45:58

Carr.

45:59

Our next caller is Johan Moore.

46:01

Mr.

46:01

Moore, please unmute yourself.

46:04

Good morning, Johan Moore, 717 Jefferson Avenue for Meridian Court Community.

46:10

We oppose items R5B and R5C.

46:14

We ask that you defer them.

46:16

We do not, as a neighborhood, accept such height, and we would ask that you not attempt to jam another project down our throats as you did with the fire station.

46:26

We also support the item by I believe it's Commissioners Dominguez and Fernandes to require that commissioners submit items in advance and not at the last minute.

46:37

The mayor at one point in time, I believe he might have been commissioner at the time, in fact, submitted an item during the lunch break a number of years ago.

46:46

We also, as an organization, support Raquel Pacheco and the First Amendment.

46:55

I would argue that it is in fact the mayor and his Zionist agenda in support of a foreign regime who is anti-Semitic.

47:06

Thank you very much.

47:07

Our next caller is Judith Meigel.

47:10

Please unmute yourself.

47:13

I'm Judith Smeigel from Will's Park, neighborhood of Maine Beach.

47:19

As Rachel Pacheco described there are very not okay actions taken by the Mountain Beach Mayor and the police after a social media community post that was critical of him, not criminal.

47:36

Regardless of how you feel about Gaza and Israel, whose speech was not formal.

47:41

This is a very wrong message that people need to watch what they say and how they say it.

47:50

If the leadership would speak up, this city has potential to reaffirm the democratic values.

47:57

Because right now we're not we're seeing anti-democratic behavior and values.

48:01

I feel terrible that the chief of police Jones was compromised because the mayor is his boss.

48:08

The mayor said act and he acted.

48:10

I know the mayor, the commissioners, and how moving.

48:18

Our next speaker is Sharon.

48:20

Sharon, state your name.

48:22

Go ahead, please.

48:25

Hi, this is Sharon Weiss, 23381st Street.

48:28

I have two short comments.

48:29

The first is that I strenuously object to my tax dollars being used to threaten, harass, and intimidate uh fellow citizens, residents.

48:38

This is a violation of our first amendment.

48:40

There's a reason why the First Amendment is the first amendment.

48:43

It is the most important part of our constitution.

48:46

Next comment is that I'm not sure if you guys were aware, but the state of Florida shut down our beach up here last month for over a week at 73rd Street due to high levels of fecal bacteria.

48:57

This is the second time the state has come in and shut our waterways down in uh the last six months, and it is unacceptable.

49:04

I do not understand why we are talking about one item other than fixing our sewage pipes.

49:11

Keep the poop out of our waters.

49:13

It is a fundamental human right to have clean water.

49:15

Thank you.

49:16

Thank you.

49:17

Next caller is Rachel Siegel.

49:24

Rachel, unmute yourself, please.

49:26

Yes, hi.

49:27

Uh I am calling because I have an eight-town dog, and there is no place for my dog to play, which is I know it sounds silly.

49:38

However, there's a big dog park, and they have huge dogs there, and they would have my dog cannot play it.

49:45

And I'm asking to have an off-leash like they do in Central Park until nine o'clock between seven and nine in the morning in the green in set in South Point Park, right by where Smith and Wolenski is.

50:00

There is no one there when we're there at seven to nine.

50:04

And we have been harassed by the arrangers when our dogs come out and play.

50:09

So please, uh, there's C4L, which uh Commissioner Salinas is uh proposing today.

50:17

I am in support of it, and many, many people in the park are as well.

50:23

Thank you so much.

50:24

Our next caller is David Simon.

50:31

Yes.

50:32

Hello?

50:34

David from West End Avenue.

50:36

Like many of us, I also read the article on the young Israel Bethel websites and the published police reports in the Miami Herald saying Miami Beach politics hit a new low this year with one of the commissioners stealing political signs and replacing them with signs of the candidate.

50:56

He is endorsing.

50:58

I mean, this guy caught red-handed by the police, throwing signs over fences, and then driving the getaway car with family members being arrested.

51:10

How is this commissioner able to continue on this board and get any respect from the public or fellow commissioners?

51:18

We need commissioners that have the ability to act like they are older than an 11-year-old.

51:24

Miami Beach deserves political representatives that will attract visitors and residents, not detract.

51:32

Thank you so much.

51:33

Our next caller is Wayne.

51:36

State your name, please, and unmute yourself.

51:40

Good morning.

51:41

Um I just wanted to uh bring up this isn't one thoughtful project.

51:47

I strongly oppose massive height and far increases for Washington Avenue and Lincoln Road.

51:53

It's miles about city being upzoned all at once with almost no limits.

51:58

That's not planning, that's a giveaway.

52:01

Miami Beach works because it's human scale and unique.

52:04

Unfettered zoning destroys exactly what makes this place valuable.

52:08

And let's be honest about what's happening right now.

52:11

The vacancies we are we see now aren't market failure.

52:14

They're intentional neglect.

52:16

Buildings sit empty, maintenance is deferred, leases aren't signed.

52:20

And if you prove huge height increases today, it gets worse.

52:25

Because once owners expect 150 or 200 foot towers.

52:29

Why what why rent why rent space or fix anything?

52:32

The profit is in waiting, not investing.

52:36

So they wait.

52:37

The car that dies.

52:38

Small businesses disappear.

52:40

That's not revitalization, that's speculation.

52:42

Thank you, sir.

52:43

Other cities, nope.

52:44

Other cities improve what they have.

52:47

Our next caller is Marina Brenn.

52:51

Marina, please unmute yourself.

52:55

Uh good morning, Commission.

52:57

Uh, thank you very much.

52:58

Uh, my name is Marina.

52:59

Um advocacy manager at Save and former North Beach Miami uh resident.

53:04

I'm speaking in favor of agenda item R70, Commissioner Tanya Bath's proposal to move forward with the rainbow installation at Loomis Park, and agenda item uh C7AY brought forward by Commissioner Alex Fernandez to support Ryan White HIV program um in response to Florida's A-DAP cunting puts.

53:26

Um, I'm here to urge your support for uh R70, a permanent rainbow installation, because it would send a clear message that LGBTQ people are welcome, valued and protected in Miami Beach.

53:39

Public affirmation from our local government matters and it equals safety for some of us.

53:46

Regarding C7AY, the Ryan White HIV program.

53:51

Um, starting March 1st, the Ford Department of Health is cutting the AIDS drug assistance program, ADAP, producing income eligibility.

54:01

Thank you.

54:02

Our next caller is Charlie.

54:04

Please unmute yourself.

54:06

Hi, I'm Charlie.

54:07

I'm a resident and a voter and a property owner in South Beach for 20 years.

54:12

I'm just calling to get make three quick points against the zoning and height increases for proposed.

54:18

Uh one, I think the dias is uh politically astute enough to know that the entire neighborhood or the mountain overwhelming majority of the neighborhood does not want this.

54:27

This just serves developer interests, and you guys know that.

54:30

Two, new development will not fill storefronts.

54:34

If you look at the Good Time Hotel, all of their storefronts have been vacant since its construction.

54:38

Homeless people sleep in the vestibules.

54:40

That is a fallacy, and it's just a trick that developers play.

54:43

Look at the storefronts right now that new development.

54:45

It is not uh, they're not filled, they're all vacant.

54:48

And three, if this was valuable, it would happen south of fifth as well.

54:52

It's not happening south to fifth as well, because you all know why it's not happening in South Fifth as well.

54:57

It's because no one wants this.

55:00

It's just the South of Fifth neighborhood has better money, I guess.

55:02

So you don't do this kind of stuff to that neighborhood.

55:04

You only do it to our neighborhood, just like the fire department.

55:07

I'm a little tired of our neighborhood.

55:09

Thank you, sir.

55:10

Like poop of the city.

55:12

Thank you.

55:13

Our next caller is David Sexton.

55:15

Mr.

55:15

Sexton, go ahead, please.

55:18

Hi, my name is David Sexton, 30 plus year resident of Miami Beach.

55:23

I'm here today to advocate for R70, the restoration of a rainbow on Ocean Drive brought by Commissioner Bott and Commissioner Mateo Salinas, and to advocate for C7AY by Commissioner Fernandez and Mayor Minor.

55:42

Also, one of the earlier callers spoke about the stop the pause item.

55:47

I think that is vital for our government to function properly.

55:52

Thank you.

55:53

That's it.

55:54

Thank you so much.

55:55

Our next caller is Daniel.

55:56

Daniel, state your name.

55:58

Unmute yourself, please.

56:00

Yes, hi.

56:01

This is Daniel Serraldo.

56:02

I am a proud resident of Miami Beach.

56:05

It's really hard to see residents looking so sad today at the commission being rushed, which is one minute sudden, then having a city-funded police officer come on the screen to move them along.

56:18

Talk about terrible optics.

56:21

I've never seen a commission meeting like this.

56:24

And I never agree with David Wally, but I agree with him today.

56:29

Two minutes Sudnik hour.

56:32

I want to ask the members of the public who are listening.

56:35

It is clear that we're being censored big time.

56:38

Please email me at DGC 223 at gmail.com.

56:44

Any issues of waste, fraud, or abuse.

56:47

Since at the moment we have wallflowers who are not doing anything to ensure trust in our commission.

56:54

Thank you, and I'll be back.

56:58

Next caller is Bruce.

57:00

Bruce, please state your name.

57:04

Bruce Siegel, resident on South Point Drive.

57:07

I speak in support of item C4L.

57:10

I had reached out to the mayor's office.

57:12

Uh I was asked to get support of Safna.

57:14

We got support of Safna, and I want to thank Commissioner Mateo Salinas for taking it upon herself to uh for proposed item C4L.

57:23

We have a very small dog, and it's not safe for an eight-pound dog to play in off stage with a hundred-pound dogs.

57:30

And having the separate area in South Point Park for the little dogs from seven to nine is an earlier caller mentioned.

57:37

Uh I would be great.

57:38

And uh, there's a lot of people with little dogs who we know are supporting that.

57:43

Thank you.

57:43

And thank you again, Commissioner Mateo Salinas.

57:46

Thank you.

57:47

Our next caller is Spencer Roberts.

57:49

Go ahead, please.

57:56

Mr.

57:56

Roberts, please unmute yourself.

58:00

Hi, can you hear me?

58:01

Yes, sir.

58:02

Thank you.

58:02

Hi, my name is Spencer Roberts.

58:04

I am just calling to thank you for your unanimous support and sponsorship of Commissioner Dominguez item R5M prohibitions on shark fishing gear on the public beach.

58:15

I just want to highlight the urgency of this issue.

58:18

Uh there have been several instances of this since our last meeting, including protected species.

58:23

And I want to ask that uh we get it on the uh we call I know there's a lot of business to get to today, but that we call the item at hearing time 1015, and I'll be there to see it through.

58:34

And uh I think we're all on the same page, so take it across the finish line.

58:38

Thank you.

58:39

PJ, can you call the next caller?

58:47

State your name, please.

58:48

Unmute yourself.

58:53

Peter, let's go to Matthew Morgan.

59:00

Hi, good morning.

59:02

Uh, my name's Matthew.

59:03

I represent the owners of 825 Washington Avenue, also known as the Clinton Hotel.

59:09

Um, I'm here to speak in support of the Washington Avenue residential plan, agenda items 5B and 5C.

59:15

We think the proposal offers a thoughtful corridor-wide strategy to reinvigorate a key part of the city by encouraging permanent housing and walkable vibrant streets.

59:25

Unlike piecemeal spot zonings, the plan takes a comprehensive forward-looking approach that provides clarity and fairness to all stakeholders.

59:32

It incentivizes long-term investment while preserving design integrity and aligns with the city's goals for affordability, mobility, and sustainability.

59:40

We urge the commission to move forward and adopt this well-balanced framework.

59:44

Thank you.

59:46

Thank you, sir.

59:47

Our next caller is Sarah de los Reyes.

59:52

Hi, good morning.

59:53

This is Sarah de los reyes.

59:55

I am I'm calling for support for C4E.

1:00:00

I am I'm calling for support for C4E to add the Astro Surf to the Maurice Gift Bar in Able force the area is getting um it's getting all messed up with the parent grass.

1:00:11

So thank you, Alex.

1:00:14

Thank you so much.

1:00:15

We have no other callers in Zoom, and I see no other callers on the day uh in the chamber.

1:00:22

Commissioner Suarez.

1:00:23

Thank you.

1:00:24

I'd uh like a point of privilege to talk about what has happened over the last couple weeks uh in Miami Beach.

1:00:32

Um and I want to share something that should concern all of us.

1:00:36

Um recently in Miami Beach, the Vendome Nightclub.

1:00:41

Individuals tied to extremist anti-Semitic movements, played the song Heil Hitler in the club, and posted it online.

1:00:53

And PJ, I know we can't play the the sound, but uh I want to give you guys a little taste of what what we've seen.

1:01:03

Um we have what appears to be a uh neo-Nazi fraternity, okay, which has rolled out their version of DEI, apparently in our nightclub.

1:01:23

The feature is a gay Mexican, a half black guy, and an Arab.

1:01:29

Unfortunately, this isn't satire.

1:01:32

This isn't some edgy joke.

1:01:35

This is the glorification of a genocidal regime in a space where Jewish residents should feel safe.

1:01:45

And it didn't happen out of nowhere.

1:01:49

It happened in a climate where anti-Semitic rhetoric is getting normalized.

1:01:56

Which brings me to the next part.

1:01:59

In recent weeks, a local controversy got national attention today.

1:02:06

I'm providing context.

1:02:08

Most of the coverage got ignored.

1:02:11

We have seen repeated public statements from this individual that mirrors themes views by anti-Semitic extremists, as shown in that video.

1:02:25

PJ, put up the comparison side, please.

1:02:28

I want to show you a couple of tweets and show how exactly they're very similar.

1:02:35

The Zionist propaganda machine is full on, putting our tax dollars to work.

1:02:40

And on the right, we have that same individual who is in a nightclub singing Heil Hitler, saying Zionist control CBS.

1:02:50

This is all part of Israel's propaganda campaign.

1:02:53

Let's go to the next one.

1:02:56

Next slide.

1:02:57

We have a government that's completely beholden to Israel.

1:03:02

And on the right, we have a guy saying, okay, but Israel controls America.

1:03:07

I don't want everyone to see the comparisons.

1:03:11

You have a crazy person on the left, and you have a crazy person on the right.

1:03:16

Both are political.

1:03:19

Okay.

1:03:21

And what do they have in common?

1:03:23

They all hate Jews.

1:03:26

Next slide, please.

1:03:28

You have even Candace Owens, who we all know is crazy.

1:03:35

It's the same thing.

1:03:36

Everyone has the same talking points that hates Jews.

1:03:40

Next slide.

1:03:43

You have even more comparisons.

1:03:46

Israel and Miami Beach.

1:03:48

And they say that there's some sort of conspiracy, that there's technology, that somehow Israel is controlling our government.

1:03:58

The comparison is it's undoubtedly clear.

1:04:03

Next.

1:04:05

You even have the Ayatollah of Iran saying the same talking points.

1:04:14

You can close the presentation.

1:04:17

The parallels to figures, like Dopy Nick Fuentes and Crazy Candace Owens, the Ayatollah of Iran.

1:04:29

It's clear.

1:04:31

And let's be honest.

1:04:33

It's open season on public officials.

1:04:36

We've seen threats and violence on both sides.

1:04:42

Charlie Kirk, Governor Shapiro, Elon Omar.

1:04:47

It doesn't matter.

1:04:48

It happens on the left.

1:04:49

It happens on the right.

1:04:51

Rhetoric fuels this environment.

1:04:55

And when Jews are portrayed as enemies, oppressors, or villains, that has consequences.

1:05:04

Which is why the next video matters.

1:05:06

PJ.

1:05:11

Two Israeli embassy staffers gunned down in what the FBI says was a targeted attack.

1:05:17

At a Brooklyn tonight, we're on this third night of Hanukkah.

1:05:20

Cops are investigating two possible anti-Semitic attacks.

1:05:23

I wouldn't fucking do all good.

1:05:39

Flemins Graves snatched her phone, threw it to the ground, hit her, and spat on her.

1:05:46

Report quotes the suspect is saying, move you dirty Jew.

1:05:49

Woman was walking off 77th Street in Miami.

1:05:52

Well, she says on Palestine, Dork, you look as ridden like a motherfucker.

1:05:55

We got a lot of shit to talk.

1:05:56

Talking right now.

1:06:00

Then they held on the doors, threatening 11 Jewish students who have sought sanctuary blocking themselves inside.

1:06:13

For the first night of Hanukkah, police are investigating the mass shooting as a terrorist attack.

1:06:21

White supremacists should they live.

1:06:24

Murder can't be just enough.

1:06:28

Yeah!

1:06:40

Just hours after your Passover Seder, 22 people were in the house at the time, including your family.

1:06:53

There is a developing hostage situation at a synagogue near Fort Worth, Texas.

1:06:58

Anti-Semitism in America haunting Jewish communities from coast to coast.

1:07:03

More than 100 greys damaged or overturned the U.S.

1:07:06

Secretary can fill it out.

1:07:08

A swante enters discovering the seed of unimaginable horror.

1:07:13

11 people, three women, and eight men dead.

1:07:16

And this centuries old form of hate is sharply right.

1:07:21

These incidents are these incidents are real.

1:07:26

Assault, vandalism, harassment, Jews targeted in public for being Jewish, rhetoric normalizes hate.

1:07:36

Hate escalate escalates to violence.

1:07:41

And I really want to give an opportunity to the police chief to come up here.

1:07:45

I got a few questions for you, Chief.

1:08:01

Chief, I got a procedural question for you.

1:08:05

Okay.

1:08:06

When rhetoric escalates into inflammatory accusations, that could incite unrest.

1:08:15

Your department evaluates that public safety risk.

1:08:18

Am I correct?

1:08:19

Uh that is correct.

1:08:20

Wayne Jones, police chief, my BHP supportman.

1:08:22

Commissioner, that is correct.

1:08:24

That's part of our charge.

1:08:25

Okay.

1:08:26

Now, given the national controversy that this has happened, if you could do it all over again, would you do anything different?

1:08:36

In terms of how we handled the response to the post-it statement?

1:08:43

Correct.

1:08:43

Short answer is no.

1:08:46

Short answer is no.

1:08:47

Correct.

1:08:48

So in your opinion, in your professional opinion, you handle everything the right way.

1:08:54

Absolutely.

1:08:54

And you would do it again.

1:08:55

Absolutely.

1:08:56

The investigators that uh respond to Ms.

1:09:00

Pacheco's home, this is what they do, risk assessment, all the time.

1:09:04

They're very good at what they do.

1:09:05

How often does it happen?

1:09:07

How often does this happen where you see something like this and people got a welfare check?

1:09:15

Uh absolutely regularly.

1:09:16

In fact, the incident that occurred is commonly referred to in police work as a knock and talk.

1:09:23

It's done thousands of times, thousands of times in this country on a daily basis.

1:09:29

And given this political climate of violence, especially on elected officials, do you think it's out of the ordinary to do a knock and talk when people purposely spread false information?

1:09:45

I know these circumstances, absolutely not.

1:09:47

And Commissioner like to share something with you.

1:10:08

15,000.

1:10:10

That represented a whopping 58% increase from the year before.

1:10:16

Much of their response is done exactly where we did it, starts with knock and talk.

1:10:24

So this is an out of the ordinary either at the local level, county level, or federal level.

1:10:30

Not at all.

1:10:31

Okay.

1:10:33

You have anything else you'd like to share, Chief, now that you have the floor.

1:10:37

Absolutely.

1:10:38

No, the Mayan Beach Police Department is not in the business of policing free speech.

1:10:44

We're not.

1:10:44

In fact, we're in a business of protecting free speech.

1:10:49

But when something's brought to our attention, something we believe may be insightful to others to act to violence, we have an obligation to react to that.

1:11:01

The goal in the intent of investigators to respond to Ms.

1:11:03

Pacheco's house was not to not to take away our free speech, but quite frankly, have a frank conversation with her, a consensual conversation with her.

1:11:12

Ask her, you posted this information.

1:11:17

Has anyone reacted to you personally directly?

1:11:21

Has anyone indicated they wanted to cause harm to the mayor andor his family?

1:11:26

And if the answer was no, that would have been the end of it.

1:11:30

Would you agree that there's a lot of crazy people in the world that could read Ms.

1:11:35

Pacheco's post and say, you know what?

1:11:39

If he's killing Palestinians, I need to take justice in my own hands.

1:11:44

There is a lot of people who are unstable in this world.

1:11:47

And I can surely tell you there's a lot of unstable people in Miami Beach.

1:11:50

And I'm responsible for that.

1:11:52

I'm the one responsible for the rest of the day.

1:11:55

Chief, if you can.

1:11:57

Would you say that there's a lot of crazy people in the U.S.?

1:12:00

We do deal with people all the time on a daily basis in mental uh emotional crisis.

1:12:05

Uh oftentimes your action to that is to to baker act them, get them to help they need.

1:12:10

Um but yeah, we deal with quite a bit of folks with um emotion mental issues.

1:12:17

I appreciate it.

1:12:18

Thank you for keeping us all safe.

1:12:19

But I know it's not an easy before the chief steps away.

1:12:23

May I ask one question?

1:12:24

And I'm going to break the golden rule of politics of asking a question I don't know the answer to.

1:12:30

Um of the reasons why I haven't made any comments on this is because we're not allowed to talk to each other.

1:12:38

Um Sunshine Rule.

1:12:40

So I don't know what happened.

1:12:42

And I'm going to ask you a question that I haven't asked the mayor, I haven't asked you, I haven't talked to any of my colleagues about.

1:12:51

I don't want to say a yes or no answer, but let's just keep it simple and brief.

1:12:55

Sure.

1:12:57

Did the mayor direct order ask you or any of your staff to send police officers to Ms.

1:13:07

Pacheco's house?

1:13:08

The answer is no.

1:13:10

Thank you.

1:13:14

So I'd like to just finish.

1:13:17

Um if you want to ask me.

1:13:19

I just wanted to ask a couple of questions.

1:13:20

Uh I I you have implored me for a long time.

1:13:25

Very long time.

1:13:26

And you can enhance what you're saying that the security of me, my family, uh, really all of us.

1:13:34

That's not just me.

1:13:35

It's not just it's not just me also.

1:13:37

It's our entire city and potentially the Jewish community.

1:13:41

Um you've implored me that if I if I see something, I should send it to you.

1:13:46

Which I do.

1:13:47

Yeah.

1:13:47

Um, which I did in this case.

1:13:49

Yes.

1:13:50

Tell us what happened then after I sent it to you.

1:13:56

This took the case.

1:13:57

Um, Ms.

1:13:58

Mayor, you use an opportunity to urge you, like I've done countless times to increase the use of your protection detail.

1:14:04

That's exactly why they're there.

1:14:07

In fact, we've had other instances where people send you notes to your home that we've investigated.

1:14:13

That's not been publicized because um it was not recorded in place on social media, the interaction police officers has had as a result of result of that.

1:14:21

And because of the ongoing concerns you've had about your safety, because of the public and and unwavering stance you've taken in support of Israel, uh I've asked you for a very long time.

1:14:31

Let's provide you the safety and security I think you need to protect you from the crazies that may exist out there, um, and may want to wish you harm.

1:14:44

And Commissioner Magazine just asked the question.

1:14:46

Did I have any conversations with you about sending someone to Ms.

1:14:50

Pacheco's house, either discussing it, requesting it, asking for it, or even know about it before you did it?

1:14:55

You did not.

1:14:57

Um could you just tell us the thought process you had?

1:15:00

I mean, what what was it about the post itself that led to your concern?

1:15:05

Mr.

1:15:06

Mayor, I think I mentioned this to you.

1:15:07

The post in and of itself is protected speech.

1:15:11

I mean, in and of itself, there is no crime committed, right?

1:15:15

My my concern was one line in that post.

1:15:18

The fact that it mentioned that you had called for the death of all Palestinians, which is untrue.

1:15:24

But more importantly, I was concerned that a crazy or two may use that, it causes you violence or violence to your family.

1:15:33

And so that was the impetus of my directly.

1:15:37

I don't know if that was your thought process, but my thought process was potentially the Jewish community.

1:15:40

Yeah, when I read it.

1:15:42

Continue, I'm sorry.

1:15:43

But that was that was my thought process, and that's why my investigators visited Ms.

1:15:48

Pacheco's home.

1:15:50

Mr.

1:15:51

Mayor.

1:15:52

Commissioner Fernandez.

1:15:53

Thank you.

1:15:55

You know, it's it's a very difficult situation.

1:15:57

Recently I saw a post by the American Jewish committee, um, which had a very sobering reminder that portraying Jewish individuals as evil is actually an old anti-Semitic practice that has been used throughout history to justify hatred, to justify violence uh towards Jewish people.

1:16:25

And it's the kind of imagery and rhetoric that it it's vile, it's divisive, it has no place in in the public discourse.

1:16:38

Um I don't like what happened.

1:16:40

I don't like seeing images of police officers knocking on our residents' doors.

1:16:46

Um but we you we have to make sure that language doesn't provoke, that doesn't divide, and we also have to make sure that that this type of language that we don't help feel the flame.

1:17:01

You know, we have a two-fold responsibility.

1:17:04

We have a two-fold responsibility to stand firmly with our Jewish community, to call out anti-Semitism, um, to to be aware of these patterns in history and these practices in history that have been used to paint good Jewish people as evil to justify the hate and the violence towards them, which is real.

1:17:32

Um we also have a responsibility to ensure that our public institutions, our public resources respond in a way that are measured in a way that are constitutional, um, in uh in a way where we don't reward bad messages, hateful messages, vile messages, divisive messages with a larger platform than what they deserve.

1:17:59

They don't they don't they don't deserve um national attention, they don't deserve um I feel the time of day that we're giving it right now, you know.

1:18:12

Um but it has to be called out.

1:18:15

You know, comments that are used to portray Jewish people as evil have to be called out.

1:18:23

They need to be handled appropriately because we know, we know, and it's the same thing with Hispanics.

1:18:29

When they paint Hispanics or immigrants as rapists or as other types of criminals, when they paint LGBTQ individuals as pedophiles, it is a practice that is done to justify the evil that follows.

1:18:51

And that is that is what is so sad about all of this.

1:18:56

And and we've rewarded it unfortunately with with national attention, but it has to be called out.

1:19:02

It is wrong, it is hateful, it is divisive, our community deserves better.

1:19:07

I hope these voices don't continue to get amplified.

1:19:10

I know that as I go through my committee appointments today, as as I cast my vote today on committee appointments, I am not going to be voting for individuals uh who are who are who are using their platforms to promote hate, division in our community, because we need to come back to a place that's in the middle and a place that's in a place that's unified, where we protect each other, where we support each other, where we realize that whether we're immigrants, whether we're LGBTQ, whether we're Jewish or Christian or Muslim, we are one community.

1:19:42

We need to end the division, and I think it really it starts with all of us up here, and we we may not agree with with with comments, but we need to we need to coexist.

1:20:00

And we can't tolerate messages that at the end of the day, while may not be intended to promote uh violence, we need to protect our community from the violence that could potentially be inside.

1:20:09

Thank you, Mr.

1:20:09

Mayor.

1:20:10

Thank you, Commissioner Fernando.

1:20:14

I appreciate your comments.

1:20:16

Commissioner Bott.

1:20:19

Um, you know, our first job up here is public safety.

1:20:23

Uh we can agree or disagree on zoning or opening hours of businesses or anything else.

1:20:30

But at the end of the day, it's public safety for our residents, our elected officials, our visitors.

1:20:40

Um I don't know, has anybody here ever been to an event where you ask the DJ to play a song and they look at you and they're like, no.

1:20:51

I have.

1:20:52

Um could be a bar mitzvah, it could be a nightclub.

1:20:56

They didn't exercise judgment, and that's their right to have stupid views that they amplify.

1:21:04

What's not their right is to put the city potentially into a dangerous position.

1:21:10

And when I commented on the Vandome lapse of judgment, it wasn't the First Amendment violation.

1:21:18

It was the idea that these three hateful individuals with large platforms who are alleged sex traffickers and rapists and avowed proud anti-Semites to be generous.

1:21:33

I think that's the short version of their list of indignities, thought that this was cool in a nightclub on a Saturday night, drinking, partying.

1:21:44

They could have, this didn't happen, but what would have stopped anything from going from this group of idiots in a nightclub to ginning themselves up and taking to the streets and saying death to Jews along Washington Avenue and getting people to join in.

1:22:04

That then becomes a public safety issue.

1:22:06

So free speech is absolutely sacrosanct in my view.

1:22:10

You can have the greatest opinions in the world, you can have the most hideous opinions in the world.

1:22:16

When it rises to a possibility of a public safety issue, um, that's a different conversation.

1:22:26

You still have the right to make the comments, absolutely, and I stand behind that a thousand percent.

1:22:32

We also have the right to ask some questions.

1:22:35

I think, and I I would like this to be um a turning point and a teachable moment.

1:22:44

I think the problem lies when there are no immediate responses to very valid questions, because I think conversation diffuses a lot of the concerns.

1:22:56

You may not still agree with the decisions made, but you can at least understand the decision-making process.

1:23:03

And we didn't have that.

1:23:04

I will take us back to the O cinema debacle from last year.

1:23:08

We had a very robust public conversation in this chamber.

1:23:12

We had people queued up.

1:23:14

It was, I don't remember how long, but it's certainly more than a minute per person, and and we went very much longer than our allotted 30 minutes for Setnik hour.

1:23:22

And it was a cathartic, I I feel my impression was that it was an important community conversation.

1:23:30

All kinds of opinions were heard, there was emotion up and down, but at the end of that, we came to a better place.

1:23:40

And that didn't happen here.

1:23:42

And I I urge us all where it if we are put in situations where there are questions asked, that we answer them transparently and quickly and with full disclosure, because there's nothing to hide when protecting public safety.

1:24:00

You are completely at your absolute constitutionally granted rights.

1:24:07

Um you have every constitutionally granted right to say what you want to say.

1:24:14

I have no issue with that.

1:24:15

But if you're whether you're sitting on the dais or you're sitting at home, you need to be able to answer for what you say.

1:24:25

We all get hate mail, and we all get vilified on on social media.

1:24:31

I mean, if any of us were private citizens, we'd have slander cases left, right, and center.

1:24:35

I, you know, that we would win.

1:24:37

I have I've gotten threats, nothing like the mayor has.

1:24:41

I've gotten threats.

1:24:42

I mean, we've talked about it, and um it's we should all feel safe.

1:24:50

We should all feel safe to exercise our First Amendment right to say how we what we feel, and we should also feel safe that things that get said don't light an unintended match.

1:25:03

And that is the that is the balance of living in a free democracy.

1:25:09

You know, people can march through the center of town saying hateful things.

1:25:13

There will be a police presence to make sure it doesn't become a public safety issue.

1:25:17

So I would urge us, I hope we don't get into a situation like this again.

1:25:22

But should we ever get into a situation like this again?

1:25:26

I would urge whoever is involved to have forthright, direct, open communication, in rapid in quick order, answer the question, questions that are asked, provide the documentation, and air it air it out and and move on.

1:25:44

And by the way, Commissioner Bott, I agree 100% what you just said.

1:25:48

But obviously, since in this case I was not the one who made the decision, uh it was this was a police matter handled by the police department.

1:25:58

Um uh Mateus Alinas.

1:26:03

Thank you, Mr.

1:26:04

Mayor.

1:26:04

I also want to just say that anti-Semitism has no place in Miami Beach, and we have a very large Jewish population here.

1:26:12

This is their home, and they deserve to be safe and feel safe, just as our LGBTQIA community deserves to feel safe here too.

1:26:19

This is their home, they deserve that safety.

1:26:21

And frankly, all of us deserve to feel safe in our homes where we live, where we raise our children, where we go to school, where we go to church or temple.

1:26:30

I wasn't aware of anything that had happened here.

1:26:33

Um I'm not on Facebook, and I won't be on Facebook.

1:26:36

It's a toxic mess of negativity, and I just I don't want to participate in that.

1:26:42

I you know, I'm sorry that I didn't wish you a happy birthday on Facebook.

1:26:46

Um, but I I will not be going on Facebook.

1:26:49

So people can and will say many, many things about me on Facebook, and I'm just I'm not gonna read it or react.

1:26:56

Um it's just not my deal.

1:26:59

But but bottom line is is that we all deserve to feel safe here, all of our communities, and you know, uh Chief, I respect you and your department and what you need to do and investigate and whatever procedures you have, I respect that.

1:27:12

I'm not gonna get in the way.

1:27:14

Um, and I thank you for doing you know what you felt was best.

1:27:18

Um and you know, again, I just want to reiterate that that we all deserve to feel safe here, and um and I will I will I will always you know elevate public safety to to number one.

1:27:32

So thank you.

1:27:33

Thank you, Commissioner Dominguez.

1:27:37

Thank you, Mayor.

1:27:39

Uh well, I agree with what's been said on the day is there is no place for anti-Semitism in our city or for hate of any kind.

1:27:47

The climate lately has really been escalated.

1:27:50

It's uh shocking to me to read my email and see uh some of the messages I get from residents and what they feel is appropriate to say to another human being.

1:28:00

Um it's it's quite uh shocking.

1:28:03

Uh but you take it in stride, and um I agree with Commissioner Fernandez who mentioned um uh the Hispanics and the things that have been happening with ICE and also the LGBTQ community who has really come under fire uh with the state, and it's unacceptable.

1:28:24

And thank you for the job that you're doing, keeping uh residents safe and leading our city with uh the police department and um let's see if the climate uh starts to settle down and change because right now, even the last few days reading emails that were sent to me.

1:28:42

I I think back I'm like what makes someone think that it's okay to send that to someone else.

1:28:51

Um so we all need to take a step back and take a deep breath.

1:28:55

Thank you.

1:28:57

Thank you all.

1:29:00

I I'm actually very emotional right now.

1:29:05

Mostly because of what I've heard from these days.

1:29:09

This is I'm hoping a real moment for us.

1:29:13

This is in a difficult moment.

1:29:15

It's been a difficult moment for Jewish people in general, uh, since October 7th.

1:29:22

Um I don't want to speak for others, I always say, but two, three years ago, the thought of America not being the greatest country ever for Jewish people outside of the state of Israel wasn't a thought on almost every Jewish person's mind.

1:29:37

It is on every.

1:29:39

I don't want to speak.

1:29:39

I don't speak for every.

1:29:40

When I say every, I mean 99%.

1:29:43

It doesn't on every Jewish person's mind.

1:29:45

To live like that.

1:29:46

And I know we're not the only group.

1:29:49

But that right now is the issue of the day.

1:29:51

So to hear the comments and the coming together is very meaningful to me.

1:29:55

It is anti-Semitism 101 to portray Jews as trying to commit violence against others.

1:30:00

It's blood libel.

1:30:01

It goes through thousands of years of Jewish history.

1:30:03

That's how it starts.

1:30:04

The blood libel against Christians.

1:30:06

They're all lies, they're all false.

1:30:08

To accuse me of saying something so horrific that I've clearly never even remotely said.

1:30:16

But I've also said that the tragic loss of life from any innocent civilians is tragic.

1:30:22

Except I blame Hamas, not Israel.

1:30:24

That's the difference.

1:30:27

But I have said, and I will go to bat for any person, any group in our city.

1:30:35

Actually, recently there was uh an individual from our LGBTQ community who had received some threatening remarks, disparaging remarks.

1:30:44

Commissioner Fernandez had come out and publicized it.

1:30:48

And then I came out with a Facebook post because that person had reached out to me.

1:30:52

I don't know if he reached out to me first.

1:30:53

I don't know all the details, but he wrote to me in an email, this member of the LGBTQ community.

1:30:57

He said, Thank you, Mayor.

1:30:59

You can read my post.

1:31:00

You were the first one to act.

1:31:02

You the first one to respond, and you took immediate action.

1:31:05

Didn't matter.

1:31:06

And I even told him when he said it to me.

1:31:08

I said, I treat this no differently than I treat an anti-Semitic attack.

1:31:14

Everyone in our city deserves to feel safe.

1:31:18

Everyone.

1:31:18

And I will go to bat for any person, any group, and I'm not just saying it.

1:31:23

I did it.

1:31:24

And this hopefully will come together.

1:31:28

This is an incredibly safe city.

1:31:30

It's a diverse city.

1:31:31

We're a welcoming city.

1:31:33

We get ratings from all different demographic groups as being the highest level of scores that they do is Miami Beach.

1:31:43

And I think today we really learned a lesson why that is.

1:31:47

It's the seven of us sitting up here.

1:31:49

It's the seven of us up here that come together when there's a threat made or perceived threat or potential for the incitement of violence against any group.

1:31:59

We act fast and we act quickly and we condemn it.

1:32:03

And it doesn't matter if it comes from the far left.

1:32:05

It doesn't matter if it comes from the far right.

1:32:07

And that's what your presentation, Commissioner Suarez shows.

1:32:10

You're seeing the same rhetoric.

1:32:12

In this case, we're talking about anti-semitism against Jews.

1:32:16

It's the same rhetoric is coming from both sides.

1:32:19

By the way, Tucker Carlson reached out to me after the Vendome incident.

1:32:22

I didn't I didn't go on that show.

1:32:24

Because I don't want to give a platform for somebody who is spreading hate and lies against the Jewish people.

1:32:30

I'm not going to do it.

1:32:32

We have we have to, we have to stick together.

1:32:36

And that's why I say I'm emotional because today I see seven of us.

1:32:40

This is leadership.

1:32:41

This is leadership, and that's why Miami Beach is one of the greatest cities in the world.

1:32:47

And we're going to continue that way.

1:32:49

And I have full confidence in our city.

1:32:51

Thank you, everyone.

1:32:52

Thank you, Chief.

1:33:00

Now we're going to get to the important business of the day.

1:33:03

And I think one of the more important items on the agenda is spring break.

1:33:07

So we're going to go to C R7V.

1:33:11

I'm sorry, Mayor.

1:33:12

Can we do the consent and the pull items or at least?

1:33:15

I got so excited talking about spring break.

1:33:17

I have to make the announcements.

1:33:18

Thank you, Mayor.

1:33:19

Sorry about that.

1:33:20

Just for the record and for the public to be aware, the following items have been separated from the consent agenda.

1:33:26

Commissioner Dominguez is separating C7U.

1:33:31

Commissioner Fernandez is separating the following items.

1:33:34

C4A, C4H, C7E, C7Z, C7AZ.

1:33:44

Again, I'm going to repeat the items.

1:33:45

Commissioner Fernandez is separating C4A, C4H, C7E, C7Z, C7AZ.

1:33:56

Commissioner Suarez is separating the following two items.

1:34:00

C7S and C7AS.

1:34:02

Again, C7S and C7AS.

1:34:06

Mayor, we need to set the agenda.

1:34:15

We need approval of the uh five Simons approval to add the following items to the agenda from Commissioner Fernandez.

1:34:23

It's C7X, Paint Lifeguard Stand in Patriotic Theme.

1:34:27

C7AD, approved galleria exhibit, MB Ocean Rescue 100 Years.

1:34:33

C7AF expressing hope for peaceful transition to democracy in Venezuela.

1:34:38

C7AW enforcement, I guess, unlawful Cuba related commerce.

1:34:43

If we can have a motion to approve all to add all those items to the agenda, please.

1:34:46

I'm moving.

1:34:47

I'll second.

1:34:48

All in favor, please say aye.

1:34:50

Aye.

1:34:51

Anyone opposed?

1:34:52

No.

1:34:52

Item carries 7-0.

1:34:55

Items are added to the agenda, consent agenda.

1:35:00

I'll do a motion to set the out to adopt a consent agenda excluding those who are.

1:35:05

Yes, sir.

1:35:06

So consent agenda of a motion by Commissioner Fernandez, second to by.

1:35:19

Aye.

1:35:19

Aye.

1:35:20

Unapposed?

1:35:20

Hearing none, the consent agenda is approved 7 0.

1:35:29

R7V.

1:35:36

R7V is authorized administration to deviate from measures set in Resolute 2025 33783 spring break.

1:35:44

R7B.

1:35:47

Thank you.

1:35:47

And I'll turn it over to uh this is actually uh Eric Carpenter, City Manager's item.

1:35:52

Just I'll tee it up.

1:35:53

Um I think we have a lot to be proud for the last two years.

1:35:56

The measures we have taken as a collective body as a commission, but also obviously our city administration, our police department, working together with our state law enforcement partners and our county partners and local um sister uh neighboring cities, police departments.

1:36:13

We have a lot to be proud for, but as as is natural, we look to potentially look to improve things.

1:36:18

And what's interesting is sometimes the narrative gets set that you know, businesses were against all the measures.

1:36:23

Uh I think nothing can be further from the truth.

1:36:25

There are select businesses, and they're they're here and they're vocal that are against uh some of these measures, but by and large, I've heard nothing but positives, and our resort tax numbers and our our hotel uh occupancy rates and hotel room rates, uh which are uh through the roof, uh, actually show that we've uh we've done a lot to protect not only our residents and our businesses.

1:36:49

But let's make no mistake.

1:36:50

Before the measures we took two years ago as a body, we had murders on our street, a level of chaos that is unacceptable, stampedes, people's lives were put in danger, and we took measures that saved people's lives.

1:37:06

That is an absolute fact, and that is what we're here to do.

1:37:09

Save people's lives, and obviously have an open, welcoming city, which we've done.

1:37:13

You see families coming down Ocean Drive in strollers, people rollerblading, people enjoying our city, going out for dinner, sitting outside, and that was not the case in past spring breaks before the last two years.

1:37:24

So I'm very proud of the measures we've taken, but today is a good time to discuss, and I know there was a discussion yesterday about potential uh steps we could take to um to to improve certain things, but ultimately I can tell you I'm just saying right now, for the most part, I am gonna be inclined to with certain exceptions to keep the measures we uh we have taken that have been so successful.

1:37:47

Eric.

1:37:48

So thank you, Mr.

1:37:50

Mayor.

1:37:51

Um we have heard all of the commission loud and clear that we don't want to backslide on safety, but we do want to pivot slightly from what we've been doing in the past few years to make it a little more balanced approach.

1:38:11

Um and so we do have a comprehensive plan.

1:38:15

Um I have challenged all of the departments to try to find um where the right location is for us to be heading into March 2026.

1:38:27

Um it's important that we highlight that there was a resolution 2025 33783, sponsored by the mayor and commissioner Fernandez to uh allocate resources to specific 16 specific items uh that were related to spring break 2026.

1:38:51

Um if I could just one second, roll through those items to remind everybody.

1:38:58

Um adopt and execute a heightened law enforcement staffing plan, including Alpha Bravo staffing from Thursday through Sunday on the second and third weekends in March.

1:39:07

Um we are going to have enhanced staffing all throughout the month of March, but particularly on those second and third weekends, the 12th through the 15th, and the uh 20th through the 22nd.

1:39:22

Um those are the two weekends with historically we've had challenges that bookend St.

1:39:30

Patrick's Day.

1:39:32

Um we are going to have Alpha Bravo staffing of our police department outside agencies, and we are going to have significant police resources on the ground.

1:39:44

As we've heard pretty consistently from everyone that they want to continue to see.

1:39:49

Um we are going to, as enumerated in the second item, vigorously enforce the open container law.

1:40:00

Item number three was originally to close public beaches on the first, second, and third weekends at 6 p.m.

1:40:10

We are here today asking for a little bit of flexibility on that because we've programmed the beach just off of Loomis Park with some very high quality events.

1:40:23

We're gonna be bringing in future proof.

1:40:27

We're gonna be bringing in Guadapalooza, we're gonna be bringing the Adidas AFEX program.

1:40:33

Um and we want to have some flexibility in this item.

1:40:36

So that is one of the things we'd like to discuss and get uh a vote on today if possible.

1:40:42

Item number four, uh if necessary, suspension of sidewalk cafe operations on ocean drive.

1:40:49

This is already an if necessary and is discretionary.

1:40:53

I don't believe that that will be necessary.

1:40:56

Um, but certainly we will make those decisions based on what we're seeing on the ground in real time.

1:41:03

Number five, enforce the city's noise ordinance as we do 365 days a year.

1:41:09

Umcreased code enforcement, parking enforcement, and fire staffing.

1:41:14

We will absolutely be doing that throughout the month of March.

1:41:18

Um, continue to explore the implementation of a secured perimeter on ocean drive or portions thereof.

1:41:26

We will have secured perimeter areas in the activations on the beach, um, and we will continue to explore that.

1:41:35

Um, continue to explore the implementation of midnight curfews as deemed necessary by the city manager.

1:41:43

Um, obviously that would be a worst case scenario, and we would have had to have really had things go terribly wrong for us to have to implement that, but that is still something that is a tool in the toolbox, should it be necessary.

1:41:58

Uh implement a robust marketing and communications campaign.

1:42:02

Um we have already put together a robust campaign.

1:42:07

We'd like to uh talk that through today and show that to you.

1:42:12

Number 10, work closely with Uber and Lyft and other rideshare apps to communicate restrictions.

1:42:17

We are working with Uber and Lyft to make sure that they understand that traffic will be heavy, um, and we are going to be trying to identify pickup and drop-off points so that they're not a part of the problem.

1:42:31

Um, close all city-owned and city operated parking lots and garages in the Art Deco Cultural District between 5th and 15th streets, Thursday, 6 p.m.

1:42:43

through Monday, 6 a.m.

1:42:45

for the second and third weekends of March.

1:42:47

Because of the activations that we have on the beach, we will be asking for some flexibility on this.

1:42:54

Um I don't think that we are going to need to close those garages.

1:43:00

Um, but I do think that we want to keep in place the high impact measures that will allow us to increase the pricing up to the $100, which is item number 12.

1:43:12

Um3, restrict on-street parking on Ocean Drive, Collins Avenue and Washington Avenue.

1:43:18

This is the item that results in the barricades that I think everybody has at one point or another voice to me their concerns.

1:43:26

Um we are asking for the ability to have the flexibility on that to make decisions in individual areas, not blocking parking on Washington Avenue, Ocean Drive, or Collins Avenue, unless there are specific locations that will be that are problematic that we need to address in real time.

1:43:48

Uh number 14, work with the county to explore the closure of the Venetian causeway.

1:43:54

Um, we have gotten the ability to lock down the bridges for extended periods with the county, but they have not agreed to the closures and create special event zone or zones.

1:44:08

Uh we will be doing that.

1:44:09

That will be part of our comprehensive plan and explore all alternative modes of transportation to reduce traffic congestion.

1:44:17

That is an ongoing process that certainly will be helped by the new um trolley contract and the new water taxi that we've implemented.

1:44:28

So happy to dig into any of the details further.

1:44:32

We had a very robust and constructive conversation yesterday at the uh neighborhood sunshine meeting, and I welcome any feedback from the commission and committee.

1:44:43

The department directors are here to answer any specific questions.

1:44:47

Sorry, Commissioner Fernandez first, and Commissioner Bott.

1:44:51

Thank you, Mr.

1:44:52

Mayor.

1:44:52

Um I think what we need to look at is a calibrated and flexible spring break uh operational plan, um one that keeps public safety as our priority.

1:45:06

I think public safety is all of our priority, especially uh with spring break, it's a plan that preserves the tools we've developed and we've adopted over the past year, but applying some with precision based on the real-time conditions of what's happening in our city at the at the moment.

1:45:24

Um so I just you know, I think it's very important for us to understand that I don't think anything of what the city manager is saying is about undoing um the spring break strategy that we've had over the past few years.

1:45:38

They've been incredibly successful.

1:45:40

Um that works.

1:45:45

Um the question is how to apply it in a way that's intelligent, that's proportional, that doesn't hurt our businesses, that doesn't hurt our residents' quality of life, and that keeps us being a welcoming community.

1:45:58

So, first with sidewalk cafes, uh, Mr.

1:46:01

Manager, I support keeping sidewalk cafes open unless and until conditions uh would require otherwise.

1:46:09

Uh I believe you know these are permitted businesses.

1:46:13

Um they count with the sidewalk space.

1:46:17

Um, and the people who come from other parts of the country, they want to be able to sit outside, have a meal outside, enjoy our weather.

1:46:26

It's why they're here during during uh the month of March.

1:46:30

So any idea of automatically shutting them down, I think would would send the wrong uh signal and penalize uh business owners who otherwise are not doing anything anything wrong in in the city.

1:46:43

So what I do support is you maintaining the full discretion together with our chief police to be able to make targeted decisions to shut them down if conditions deteriorate.

1:46:55

So I completely support you in your in in keeping the sidewalk cafes open.

1:46:59

Second, the barricades along Ocean Drive, Collins Avenue, and Washington Avenue uh sends a very uninviting uh message of I believe it's a very aggressive visual.

1:47:13

Uh so I support uh rolling removing scaling back barricades where feasible.

1:47:21

Now, yesterday we were discussing that uh while we want to generally remove or see the removal and the scaling back of these barricades, there might be certain hot spots where you may want to be able to consider keeping them, like the 900 block of Collins Avenue that Mitch mentioned, or the 700 uh block of Washington where we know based on what the chief told us, based on data uh and history, these are hot spots of our city where it might be prudent and wise to keep those barricades there, but not imposing them by default asset policy along all of Washington Avenue, along all of Collins and Ocean Drive.

1:48:03

Uh, we shouldn't normalize a lockdown posture when a managed open condition uh can work safely.

1:48:11

Uh third, as it relates to uh the parking and garage topic that you brought up, Mr.

1:48:17

Manager.

1:48:18

Um last year we shut down the garages.

1:48:22

I think we had the 100 dollar parking rate.

1:48:25

I absolutely support given the amount of activities that we have coming into the city, the health and wellness activities that are coming in, future-proof that I believe is is coming back.

1:48:35

These are good tourists that want to enjoy our city, that want to respect our city, they want to support our economy.

1:48:43

I support keeping our garages open and allowing flexibility on the parking rate as you see appropriate, uh giving you that flexibility if you need if you feel that the market is saying that the parking rate should be $30, we will do it $30.

1:48:59

And if you feel that you need to raise it to $100 to control, to control the amount of vehicles coming into our area and all that, well, that is under uh your your discretion from from my perspective.

1:49:14

Um I also believe that opening up the garages, it prevents the illegal parking situation that Commissioner Magazine uh so eloquently mentioned yesterday.

1:49:24

Uh, when the garages are closed, when on-street parking is completely unavailable in areas like Washington Avenue.

1:49:30

What happens then is that people go into the residential zones and they start to illegally park in the in the residential zones.

1:49:38

So I believe opening uh opening up our garages and our parking um it reduces that illegal parking activity.

1:49:48

Um as it relates to the beach closing time and beach access.

1:49:53

Again, we have events that are coming up.

1:49:55

To me, it doesn't make sense to close the beach at 6 p.m.

1:50:00

when you have events that might need for the beach to be open later.

1:50:04

So rather than imposing uh closing time, I'm completely supportive of giving you, Mr.

1:50:11

Manager, giving the police chief uh support and flexibility of the uh of of the closing time.

1:50:17

Uh I believe also one of the things that has been brought up over the years is access points.

1:50:24

Access points to the beach uh over the years has been limited to two locations.

1:50:30

I've received feedback from residents who have concerns that it limits the access to the sand too much when you have only two locations, you kind of create congestion and unintended crowding at these access points.

1:50:46

And then um people go to other areas.

1:50:49

So go south of fifth, they'll go north of 15th where there are those access points.

1:50:55

So we could figure out a way where, in addition to keeping the beach open later, you could have more access points so that we avoid that unintended consequence, something I would be supportive of.

1:51:07

And we've heard from uh from our businesses about the LPR readers uh and traffic controls.

1:51:18

I think we're all supportive of having DUI checkpoints and all an LPR readers uh as people enter the city.

1:51:25

And I think it's also great messaging.

1:51:28

Um but what I would want to make sure is maybe you know, moving it a little bit later.

1:51:34

I believe usually we start around 9 p.m.

1:51:37

Maybe we can push it back to 10 p.m.

1:51:40

Um, you know this so that people who are coming into our city to go enjoy dinner, they don't get stuck in that traffic.

1:51:49

It's such an important tool.

1:51:50

I think it's an important tool to have.

1:51:53

Um, but I think we've also heard from our business community and from our residents, people who have been stuck in that traffic and the unintended consequences of that.

1:52:04

Uh I think ultimately what this you know brings together is not undoing the measures, keeping them in the toolbox, keeping in the toolbox.

1:52:16

If you need to close the beach at 6 p.m., you can.

1:52:18

If you need to close the sidewalk cafes, you can.

1:52:21

If you need to put up barricades, you can.

1:52:23

If you need to do a hundred dollar parking, you can.

1:52:26

It's all in your toolbox, but it's not going to be the policy, you know, from day one.

1:52:32

Is there in case of an emergency and an as needed basis?

1:52:36

That's what I would support.

1:52:37

And thank you for attending yesterday's meeting and for listening to the discussion.

1:52:42

Commissioner Bott, and then actually I want to say a few things.

1:52:46

So I want to thank uh Commissioner Fernandez in his new role for convening the meeting yesterday to have this conversation.

1:52:55

Um something I had had on the agenda for months and it we didn't reach it.

1:53:00

Um it wasn't that I was hoping to spill the state secrets about what our plans were, but it was to have the kind of robust conversation.

1:53:09

It took, I mean, we we talked about it for two and a half hours.

1:53:12

So, you know, we we fleshed out, hashed out a lot of um the nuance of what we wanted to see yesterday.

1:53:20

And you know, that's what my desire had been months ago when I put it on on the agenda.

1:53:25

So I'm I'm glad that happened.

1:53:27

Um for anybody who might not have seen it, I encourage you to go back and watch.

1:53:31

It was really constructive, a lot of uh good ideas back and forth.

1:53:35

Um Commissioner Fernandez has hit on a bunch of things that I was gonna mention, but um a couple of other things just to confirm um Mr.

1:53:44

Manager, the sidewalk cafes will be open during the day by default.

1:53:49

Confirmed.

1:53:50

Okay.

1:53:51

Wanted to clarify that.

1:53:52

That is a big deal.

1:53:53

Um Lady Gaga is playing on Friday the 13th.

1:53:57

It's a one-night only event.

1:53:58

It's a makeup for um the night that she had to cancel last year.

1:54:02

We need to plan proactively because even if a fraction of those um concert goers come over to the beach, um, you know, we need to find out when that show is letting up.

1:54:15

We need to make sure that our MacArthur Causeway is clear and not backed up.

1:54:20

Um, you know, I don't want our police to be less vigilant that perhaps we can delay um LPRs and um DUI stops until after that concert lets out and give it a little breathing room.

1:54:36

Um I will defer to the experts, the police department public safety um to figure out how to manage that push and pull.

1:54:44

Um the beach access, both in terms of when it is closing and how people can get onto beaches, needs to be rethought to have only two is counterproductive.

1:55:02

And um I understand it gives more control, but I think we can manage that in a different way.

1:55:08

And it is um it also makes the beachgoing experience less pleasant because you have all the beach visitors bunched into these spaces versus spreading across the entire length of our beach.

1:55:20

Um and more importantly, you know, the weather is beautiful, knock on wood, um, and there are plenty of people who don't want to be on the beach at the height of um the heat and and strength of the sun who like to go at the end of the day with their young family or you know, whatever, and we should make that available to them.

1:55:38

So I really you know I I am supportive of having the measures in place in case, you know, kind of a break glass if needed situation.

1:55:47

But we we had to we had to throw the circuit breaker for two years.

1:55:53

We had to disrupt and re-educate about what behavior is acceptable here in Miami Beach.

1:56:01

But we also want people to come back to Miami Beach and treat our city with the care and respect and affection that it deserves.

1:56:11

Um don't do things here that you wouldn't do at home.

1:56:14

Um we live here, people have staked their entire lives to build a business here, and we welcome you to be a part of it, um, whether you're coming across the causeway or coming from around the world, and just have a little consideration for your fellow human and and um proceed accordingly.

1:56:34

Thank you, Commissioner Bott.

1:56:35

Uh, just if I I'm gonna weigh in just big picture where I'm thinking.

1:56:39

So I I like I agree with some of the ideas to ease some of the restrictions.

1:56:44

The barricades is probably the biggest one for me.

1:56:47

My concern about, and don't take this personally, Eric.

1:56:50

My concern about leaving too much flexibility, I feel like that was part of the problem that we had in the past because our commission came together and gave some strict restrictions that you those preceded you, our police chief really followed through incredibly.

1:57:09

I think it makes it difficult when there's this amorphous moving goalpost, uh, depending on the situation.

1:57:16

So I'd like to for us maybe to do some of those easing if if we deem necessary, but I think we should be clear-cut in what they are.

1:57:24

Um barricades is a perfect example if it's parking.

1:57:28

I is is something on the table, I and I've heard this from from businesses.

1:57:34

Is there is there a way to implement like a voucher program like where businesses actually whatever the business is that they have uh X amount of vouchers that they can use uh a QR code for their this way you know a person is is I'm I'm stopping to say we have uh parking direct.

1:57:55

You can introduce yourself parking director when we battle.

1:57:57

When we got a parking director.

1:58:00

So uh short answer, yes, sir.

1:58:03

Um the the challenge is uh the breadth of reaching out.

1:58:09

So, for example, even in our current system, uh we hope to begin installation of our new system within the next few days.

1:58:16

Uh it will be fully completed within the garages uh before spring break arrives.

1:58:22

Uh obviously our technological capabilities will be leaps and bounds above where we're at right now.

1:58:27

However, with be with it being the very first few weeks, um, we will be able to do everything we do now with some added benefits.

1:58:34

So whether we're talking about uh uh both on-street and in parking lots using the apps, or whether we're talking about garages, we have that ability to give out vouchers, the challenges, the outreach to every single business, uh, who gets what, because obviously we have uh uh we've talked with the uh Lissette Argante, our our uh T CD director.

1:58:57

We had a meeting with the anchor uh institutions regarding this exact item on what could we do to ensure that these individuals that are coming for this particular event have parking.

1:59:08

We have that ability.

1:59:10

It just at that point come down comes down to who gets what and when.

1:59:14

Um that's that's the difficult part.

1:59:17

But yes, the technological capabilities are going to be there.

1:59:20

Okay.

1:59:22

Um thank you.

1:59:24

I'll also uh mention so talking about the causeways, and again, I'm I'm giving just my thoughts so everyone knows where I stand.

1:59:30

So on the causeways, what's interesting because I spent a lot of time actually on uh the MacArthur and the Julia Tunnel during last spring break.

1:59:38

Actually, I was out there at one point where the officers um had to confiscate guns, illegal weapons from uh from a vehicle.

1:59:47

So and and there were also social media posts that the police highlighted about some serious ammunition that our police took off the roads um due to these DUI uh checks uh and drugs.

2:00:00

So the problem is serious.

2:00:01

What's interesting is and uh my recollection is several years ago, probably three, four or five years ago, there were waits up to four hours.

2:00:11

I remember residents used to reach out.

2:00:13

The longest complaint I got, and uh I'm sure maybe somebody can come up with a different the longest complaint I got this last year was 45 minutes.

2:00:20

So I think our police and and in coordination with us from policy is we've done a better job about doing the police work they need to do, but also not having uh extreme wait times.

2:00:33

So uh again, it's all the balancing act because it's real, the guns we took off the roads that could have been in Miami Beach, and obviously it's all unknown to uh to what extent if any of those uh weapons would have been used.

2:00:47

But we do know that prior to two years ago, some of those weapons were used in our streets, and we had gang style shootings that we certainly want to make sure we continue to prevent.

2:00:56

Commissioner Dominguez.

2:00:58

Thank you.

2:00:59

Um Mayor, I hear you, but I also think that before 2024, um, the audience was COVID, post-COVID, it was completely different.

2:01:09

And with the activations that we've done from 2024 to now, it's um improved dramatically.

2:01:18

And uh so I understand your concerns, but I personally feel comfortable with making some changes and and pivoting.

2:01:26

Uh, one of my colleagues mentioned that month, the month of March is uh beautiful weather.

2:01:31

And I said this yesterday, but a lot of our businesses rely on March uh to get them through July, August, September, which are really, really tough months in our city.

2:01:41

So some of the things that I would support that have already been mentioned are the DUI and closing to one lane.

2:01:48

If that absolutely needs to get done, it should start later, so that people that are coming over to have dinner in our restaurants can do so without waiting and missing their reservations.

2:02:00

Uh sidewalk cafes to remain open, no barricades except for the hot spots that were mentioned, um, 7th, 9th, Collins and uh Washington area.

2:02:11

Uh we have beautiful programming that's coming to our city, and there will be people that will be looking for parking.

2:02:19

And the barricade look, it's not a good one.

2:02:22

So to get rid of that is great.

2:02:24

Keeping the garage and lots open on Lincoln Road, the businesses last year really suffered, and this year they on top of everything, they also have construction.

2:02:33

So it's a really tough time, and um we need to help them any way that we can.

2:02:39

So one of the things you mentioned, uh, Mr.

2:02:43

Manager, was that the city had worked with the county on the bridges.

2:02:49

Um that's really the Coast Guard.

2:02:50

Is the Coast Guard also in the loop?

2:02:53

The Coast Guard is the one that controls the bridges going up and down.

2:02:57

The county is the one that we've reached out to in the past to see if there was any possibility of closing the causeway to only residents.

2:03:06

Um, and the few times that we've had those conversations with the county, they've been resistant.

2:03:14

Okay.

2:03:15

And let's see what else we had here.

2:03:20

Um I saw the uh marketing campaign on social media last night.

2:03:28

Um, I think it's fun and uh really excited about it.

2:03:32

Uh so great job uh to the communications team and GMCVB uh for getting that done.

2:03:39

Um those were my comments.

2:03:42

Commissioner Magazine, thank you, Commissioner Dominguez.

2:03:44

Commissioner Magazine.

2:03:46

Appreciate it, Mr.

2:03:46

Mayor.

2:03:47

Uh appreciated Commissioner Fernandez for your leadership in public safety.

2:03:50

Uh the committee yesterday that had a great collaborative discussion.

2:03:54

I think when we talked about changing uh or keeping any of these measures, it's important to reflect on where we were, where we're trying to be, and why we took some of these measures.

2:04:04

It was four years ago where unfortunately CNN was doing a live broadcast on Sunday morning for motion drive, our beloved postcard.

2:04:12

And why were they doing that?

2:04:14

There were shop owners cleaning blood with the hose after the second night of a public execution on our streets, right?

2:04:21

So that is what is at stake.

2:04:23

But where we're coming from, the owner of the Betsy just shared with me over the weekend, he got contacted by CNBC for the second year in a row for them to set up a live broadcast production from our beloved beautiful Ocean Drive to do a full day of programming on the largest financial network in the entire world.

2:04:42

Right.

2:04:43

So that's where we were, and that's where we've come.

2:04:45

In addition to the events that have been mentioned, and to talk about the progress and where we're at in a different stage, uh I have on the agenda today.

2:04:54

I've been working with two multinational international brands that want to do an activation that they're rolling out in six cities globally, including Monaco, Sandro Pay, cities like that.

2:05:05

They are going to do or want our approval to do on Ocean Drive in the middle of March.

2:05:11

And those international brands are Prada and National Geographic.

2:05:15

So those that's the type of caliber of branding and clientele that we can now be proud we're bringing to Miami Beach in the middle of March, which years ago would have been unfathomable.

2:05:28

About why we took some of the measures that we did.

2:05:31

One of the goals was a lot of the problems stem from not really people that would come here and stay in our hotels, but would drive in from quasi-surrounding areas, party in their cars.

2:05:41

Those are the ones that were able to bring weapons.

2:05:43

You're usually not bringing it on the plane.

2:05:45

And that's where all of the trouble, the overwhelming majority of trouble, largely stem from.

2:05:50

So I do think that it's important to still be vigilant about keeping measures like that and really limiting the amount of people that are driving in from surrounding areas and partying in their cars and bringing those problematic atmospheres.

2:06:04

So I think we want to address some of that.

2:06:07

We also want a very good vibrant crowd, but in years past, we also don't want to be overwhelmed.

2:06:12

So when we talk about some of our uh traffic or parking, I think it should be with that goal of threading the needle of having a very robust public crowd, but uh preventing us from being overwhelmed.

2:06:25

Ways to do that are talking about opening the garages, but some type of uh pricing mechanism and control.

2:06:31

It's not three dollars an hour or anybody can come.

2:06:34

Uh, but there is some sort of cost control there, and also really have a robust discussion on whether we should be allowing uh street parking in our commercial corridors, whether we continue not allowing parking along Washington Avenue, we free that up a little bit, but if we do so, obviously we need diligent enforcement where people aren't partying out of their cars.

2:06:54

Uh the barricades just cannot remain.

2:06:56

It just uh echoing the comments from some of my colleagues, it just sets a very negative tone, it tenses people up.

2:07:03

Uh, it's just not the image that we want to project.

2:07:05

That is not CMBC coming here, that is not National Geographic and Prada coming here.

2:07:10

We are better as a city and we expect better.

2:07:12

Even in those problematic hotspot areas along Washington Avenue, if we do need to control uh on street parking, I wonder if we could do it in more aesthetically pleasing and welcoming ways.

2:07:23

Everybody loves our firefighters, loves them.

2:07:26

Maybe even putting them on calendars.

2:07:28

Um perhaps we have fire trucks that are out there instead of barricades.

2:07:33

Something like that, something that is interactive and welcoming to the community, but still serves as a public safety mechanism.

2:07:39

Uh, for the license plate readers, um, I agree with you, Commissioner Fernandez about pushing it back.

2:07:45

I do believe, Mr.

2:07:46

City Manager, they started being implemented at 6 p.m.

2:07:49

in years past.

2:07:50

I think over time it's gotten later and later.

2:07:54

Uh I don't know if we ever started it that early, but certainly seven o'clock, uh, maybe six.

2:08:00

Uh, but last year we originally planned to be eight.

2:08:04

I think by the end of March last year, we were at nine o'clock when we were implementing it.

2:08:10

And I think you know, the the later pushback time is uh is reasonable.

2:08:14

I I may have to recuse from that because full disclosure, I'm a I'm a little monster.

2:08:18

I'm a Gaga fan.

2:08:20

I hope to be going over to that concert.

2:08:22

So I'm not sure if I'm able to vote on that regard, but you know, I do think that we have to recognize that.

2:08:27

Um, and then one thing that we haven't talked about, but I think would be great to enforce uh to implement is some sort of evening wellness activations along Ocean Drive.

2:08:37

Uh I know lighting is often an issue, but it would be great to see evening volleyball games in our volleyball courts, evening pickleball games in our pickleball courts.

2:08:46

So we want a vibrant, lively Ocean Drive.

2:08:49

Uh the word my friend David Wallach uses oxygen, right?

2:08:52

We want to keep that oxygen, but do so in a way that's conducive to really elevating the nature of our city.

2:08:58

I think uh evening wellness, uh, Pilates activations, things like that along Ocean Drive, it goes hand in hand with the brand that we're uh going to be rolling out for our marketing campaign.

2:09:08

So those are some of my thoughts.

2:09:10

Uh really appreciate some of the um things that have been mentioned here, and just uh two more points.

2:09:16

I I do uh wholeheartedly agree with more beach access points.

2:09:21

And when we talk about um wanting to maintain that semblance of order that we've worked so so hard for and doesn't just impact March, but it impacts our brand for 52 weeks per year.

2:09:36

Uh while I am comfortable providing these accommodations uh that we talked about because we are in a very different place.

2:09:43

Uh it also should come with knowing where that line is.

2:09:47

So while we want to be as welcoming as possible, I also want to ensure we're having strict, strict enforcement and zero tolerance for public drinking, drug use in public, loud music and speeding.

2:10:00

So really doubling and tripling down on our traffic enforcement.

2:10:03

And because I don't want to push that bottleneck of trouble indoor residential areas.

2:10:09

I also suggest going alpha bravo with our parking enforcement, really doubling down in our residential areas because I know where some of that problem came in was not so much on Washington Avenue, where the enforcement is very robust, but when the um those visitors those visitors got routed into our residential areas like Flamingo Park.

2:10:31

So thank you for leading the discussion.

2:10:34

Commissioner Fernandez, Mr.

2:10:35

Mayor, for your leadership, uh city staff, really you're the ones that uh have worked so hard in the in uh oftentimes in the background, but you helped us get to where we are.

2:10:44

Uh Commissioner uh Mateo Salinas and then Commissioner Bob.

2:10:49

Thank you.

2:10:49

Thank you, Mr.

2:10:50

Mayor.

2:10:51

So I agree with everyone and the remarks that have been mentioned up here.

2:10:55

I also um think we do not need the barricades on Washington or Collins.

2:10:59

Let's allow people to park and let's allow people to park and go into our businesses in the area.

2:11:04

I also agree with opening up the beach access points so it doesn't um kind of cluster in one area, coming in and going out.

2:11:11

Um and I also agree with the license plate readers starting later in the evening so folks can come over here if they have an eight, nine p.m.

2:11:17

dinner, they're not caught in a bunch of traffic.

2:11:19

I will say though that I want to suggest that if we are gonna do license plate readers, that they we actually have them, and maybe we already do, Chief.

2:11:27

I don't know.

2:11:28

Um, but have them going actually um westbound on Fifth Street instead of coming in because you do get folks that like to drink on the beach and then leave while they're inaburated.

2:11:39

And sometimes people come in Uber or they'll have a designated driver.

2:11:42

Um and I think that would also alleviate some of the when we get the revving car engines off of Fifth Street that um you know upset people so much late at night, that might be a good tactic.

2:11:52

But again, I'm not the police chief, so I'm gonna allow you to you know decide on that just as a suggestion.

2:11:58

Um and lastly, I just want to reiterate that please uh parking well, whenever we look at uh garages and enforcement and and all of that to please always remember the Fifth Street Garage at Fifth and Alton, the public's garage there, because folks have figured out that that garage is the first two hours free.

2:12:16

So whereas they might go closer into the entertainment district to park and pay 20, 30, 40 dollars, they get two hours free um at Fifth Street Garage, which causes a lot of chaos because it's right there at the entrance and the exit of our city.

2:12:30

So with that, um I think those are my thoughts.

2:12:33

And have you, Chief, have you considered doing uh LPR or excuse me, DR DUI checkpoint leaving the city on Fifth Street as opposed to coming in?

2:12:41

Sure, DI checkpoint, yes, we can do that leaving the city, but the LPR detail, I think it would be sort of counterintuitive to do it um on a way out as opposed to way in.

2:12:51

Uh we confiscate a lot of weapons uh folks uh coming through the LPR on a way into the city, we confiscate um I'm sorry, I misspoke the DUI checkpoints because people drink on the beach and then they leave.

2:13:04

And that's you know, sometimes they might have a drum driver.

2:13:08

We can certainly do that, yes.

2:13:10

Chief, why while you're here, I know I'm sorry, Commissioner Bob, but uh the license plate readers.

2:13:15

What's your thoughts on pushing that back?

2:13:18

And what's the significance of that?

2:13:19

License plate readers is obviously a technol technological tool, which needs follow-up from officers, but what's your thoughts on moving it back?

2:13:28

I any concerns?

2:13:29

Uh so like concern.

2:13:31

Like the manager mentioned, we've actually pushed it back year after year after year.

2:13:35

In fact, even last year we had a a start time um that we had tended to start it.

2:13:41

And because of complaints from our business community, mostly from restauranteers, uh uh claiming that their guests weren't able to get to the restaurants to honor their um reservation time.

2:13:52

We actually pushed it back even further.

2:13:54

Can you be specific?

2:13:55

Uh push it back.

2:13:58

Well, I think last year we started at 10 o'clock.

2:14:00

We started setting up at nine, and the actual implementation started at 10 o'clock because of concerns from our business community.

2:14:05

And so we've been very, very flexible and amenable to pushing it back um each year.

2:14:10

Can you explain what it means to push it back the license plate readers?

2:14:13

What is it?

2:14:13

What does that mean in practice?

2:14:15

So start jumping is actually later.

2:14:17

Um can you be very specific?

2:14:19

What what tell tell us the technology that's being used and what's right?

2:14:23

Yeah, okay.

2:14:24

So the LPR license plate reader, or ALPR, license plate readers, um, is a system of cameras that read tags license plates coming into the city at a rapid, rapid speed, uh process those tags and uh give us information, for example, whether or not the owner of the vehicle has a has a suspended driver's license, whether or not the owner of the vehicle is wanted uh for whatever reason, uh giving us probable cause to stop that vehicle and uh do an investigation, sometimes it leads to arrests, oftentimes leads to taking uh weapons, seizing weapons out of cars and all sorts of uh other things as well.

2:15:00

Okay, so now thank you for that.

2:15:00

Now in practice, what does it mean pushing it back?

2:15:03

Pushing it back means starting later in the evening.

2:15:06

Uh may would it may have uh a negative impact on the volume of cars we're able to process and push through the the LPR system.

2:15:15

Um but um we can certainly uh push it back.

2:15:18

Does that mean, for example, at six o'clock uh the LPR is not actually active and would not trigger if there was a car someone wanted for murder, for example.

2:15:28

Not active in the manner um that we we use in terms of narrowing traffic coming into the city, um slowing it down considerably, not active in that manner.

2:15:38

We do have other means of um running license license plates.

2:15:42

Okay, just a follow-up question on that, Ms.

2:15:44

Murray, if I may.

2:15:45

So we have license plate readers coming into the Mc into the city on a permanent basis.

2:15:51

Is that correct?

2:15:52

That's correct.

2:15:52

So so even though the lane reduction, so what we're talking about is the deployment of the lane reduction.

2:15:58

And and rather than starting that lane reduction where you pretty much only have one lane, I think it is coming into the city, saying, okay, push that back, you know, by an hour or so or whatever time you all determined to be appropriate, that doesn't mean, and I guess building upon the mayor's point in question, we still have the permanently fixed, a fixed LPR reader that if someone is wanted and it gets identified by that tag, our police department department, the Arctic, the real-time intelligence center would get notified.

2:16:36

Yes, uh and that's 24 hours a day.

2:16:39

That's correct.

2:16:40

So regardless of the lane reduction getting reduced, the technology will still be used and the alert, the notification would still happen if a dangerous person is coming into the city.

2:16:53

That's correct.

2:16:54

Okay.

2:16:55

Thank you for the clarification.

2:16:56

Commissioner Bach.

2:16:58

Um this is a small detail that PJ, could you please put up the slide?

2:17:04

Use it while you got it.

2:17:06

Um the um we can do better than this when we're closing our beaches.

2:17:13

We are a world-class city.

2:17:15

Um we need to do better than this.

2:17:17

It's an embarrassment.

2:17:18

And so I don't know whose jurisdiction this falls in.

2:17:22

Um I know it's expeditious to print something off on your printer and put it into a sleeve and uh zip tie it to the fence, but let's up our game a little bit.

2:17:32

Well, that's up our game a lot.

2:17:34

We don't need a permanent installations, but come on.

2:17:37

Okay.

2:17:38

Chief, that wasn't specifically directed to you.

2:17:40

You happen to be standing at the podium, but between Melissa and whoever's putting together the the beach closures, make it beautiful and and uh not disarm, not uh unwelcoming.

2:17:52

Thank you.

2:17:52

Mr.

2:17:53

Mayor.

2:17:53

Commissioner Suarez.

2:17:55

Thank you, Mr.

2:17:55

Mayor.

2:17:56

I'll just be brief.

2:17:57

Eric, uh city manager.

2:18:00

Given all the proposals that you've put forward with the chief, do you feel that the measures you've taken in place are gonna keep our city safe during the spring break?

2:18:13

Yes.

2:18:14

Okay, thank you.

2:18:19

I just want to add if I can.

2:18:21

Commissioner Fernandez.

2:18:22

Um Commissioner Magazine mentioned something that was important, um, which is the parting we've seen in the past out of the cars that are parked.

2:18:34

So it's important to open the garages and to encourage people to use garages.

2:18:40

Um on the on-street parking, I believe the on-street parking is important, especially for locals.

2:18:46

I remember last year, you know, and the and you all remind me I was saying you could throw a bowling ball, roll a bowling ball down Washington Avenue.

2:18:57

Um, you know, I was trying to go and support some of some of the local businesses.

2:19:03

I wasn't able to park because of of the barricades.

2:19:07

Um for us as commissioners, we have access to garages and all that, and even just getting around, it was difficult.

2:19:13

Even when you're a commissioner, even when you have access to parking, all that it was nearly impossible.

2:19:19

And so while while I agree we don't want that unruly activity on the streets, we do want to have parking available.

2:19:28

I think we should have parking available on the streets, but we need this enforcement.

2:19:33

We need to make sure that we are enforcing uh that we don't have loud music coming out of these cars.

2:19:39

So we don't have open containers, people tailgating out of these cars.

2:19:43

We don't have people selling drugs out of out of these cars.

2:19:47

That's what I think we need to make sure.

2:20:00

But you know, very uh focused enforcements on those vehicles to make sure that they're not engaging in illegal and dangerous activity.

2:20:12

And that's how I think we find that balance.

2:20:14

And Commissioner Magazine, I don't know if you would uh agree uh with that.

2:20:19

That would address you know some of the concerns you had mentioned.

2:20:23

Yeah, you agree with that?

2:20:24

Yes, sir.

2:20:25

This is why you are strong in leadership and policy.

2:20:32

Eric?

2:20:35

So all of the things that we've discussed today are currently within my discretion, with the exception of the three that we requested as part of the agenda item.

2:20:46

The only thing that I would ask based on the discussion today is that the agenda item be modified slightly so that we're talking about removing the barricades in the parking areas number 13 from Washington Collins and Ocean as opposed to just Washington, which was what the administration had put forward just open the item R7 V.

2:21:17

I support that.

2:21:18

Could you repeat that or 7V?

2:21:22

Just what you proposed there.

2:21:23

Uh so yes.

2:21:25

The the agenda item R7 V is asking for the administration to have some flexibility on the beach closure times, the um closing of the parking lots and garages in the Art Deco Cultural District from Thursday, 6 p.m.

2:21:43

to 6 a.m.

2:21:44

Monday on the second and third weekends, and restricting on-street parking on Ocean Drive, Collins Avenue, and Washington.

2:21:52

Yeah.

2:21:52

Well, one thing I I would like to ask you to consider to possibly add is parking enforcement had been one of our sharpest tools before.

2:22:01

And if we're going to allow parking in the garages, which I think I we all collectively agree with, and then also along select uh corridors, we still want to maintain that complete discipline and diligence in the residential areas.

2:22:15

So consider having our uh parking enforcement staff do alpha bravo like the rest of our first responders.

2:22:22

Happy to do that, and also uh I want to reiterate that we will have the neighborhood protections in place for both Flamingo Park and South of Fifth.

2:22:33

So I just want to make sure I I understand.

2:22:35

So the motion that we have before us um or is there or I'll move I'll move our R7 V as amended.

2:22:44

I just want to make sure that Mr.

2:22:48

Manager.

2:22:50

I just want to make sure.

2:22:51

So with the item before us, your item, and if we amend it, it's gonna address uh keeping sidewalk cafes open and giving you discretion.

2:23:00

Uh I already have that discretion and I had shared with you my intentions, and I don't plan to deviate from that unless something goes wrong.

2:23:09

Okay, and as part of the adoption of this item and amended version of it, we would be removing barricades from Ocean Collins in Washington?

2:23:17

Correct.

2:23:17

And keeping them in certain hotspot areas that that you all like ninth and collins or the 700 block of Ocean Drive.

2:23:25

I mean the summer block of Washington Avenue.

2:23:29

So yeah, we'll have to we'll have to wordsmith that a little bit.

2:23:33

Right, but that's at your discretion.

2:23:34

You know, you with the chief identified those areas, but not have blanket barricading throughout.

2:23:40

Okay.

2:23:40

Correct.

2:23:41

Garages open with flexible rates that for you to adjust depending on the need.

2:23:48

Restoring the parking on the street of Washington Avenue with enhanced enforcement to ensure, okay.

2:23:55

The beach not closing at 6 p.m.

2:23:58

as a matter of policy.

2:23:59

Correct.

2:24:00

And exploring more more openings for the beach.

2:24:03

Yes.

2:24:03

Okay, but you maintain the flexibility that if you need to close at 6 p.m.

2:24:07

you can do that.

2:24:08

Yes.

2:24:09

Okay.

2:24:10

And then uh a later time for the start of the lane reductions for the LPR reader.

2:24:17

So that's not dictated in the resolution.

2:24:19

But as an amended motion, we it includes that.

2:24:22

I'm happy to include that.

2:24:24

Okay.

2:24:24

So I make that motion that that we adopt R7V as amended to include these items.

2:24:32

Second it again.

2:24:34

Sorry, go ahead.

2:24:34

Linking road.

2:24:35

Commissioner the garage and the lots open for Lincoln Road.

2:24:39

So right now the direction that is given to me is only the lots and garages along Washington Collins between 5th and 50.

2:24:51

I think we should we should consider as Commissioner Dominguez mentioned, reopening uh the garages on Lincoln Road.

2:25:00

And I think that was already contemplated in the resolution that was passed.

2:25:02

I just want to make sure that it's clear that you have clear direct.

2:25:05

I don't want you to leave with unambiguous direction.

2:25:08

I appreciate that very much.

2:25:09

And 41st Street.

2:25:11

Unambiguous.

2:25:12

Sunset Harbor and 41st Street are both off the table.

2:25:16

All right, so R7V moved as amended.

2:25:18

And the D point.

2:25:19

Can we go through can we go through the amendments again?

2:25:22

Sure.

2:25:24

I have some I have some concerns about it.

2:25:29

Um the amendments that are required to effectuate all of the things that we just talked about are giving me the flexibility to extend the beach closures beyond 6 p.m.

2:25:48

They are giving me the flexibility to open and operate lots and garages at high impact parking rates up to 100 within the Ardeco district.

2:26:08

So let me let me let me step in right there.

2:26:10

So right now, as we're sitting here, you have the flexibility.

2:26:14

Do we know what you're gonna do?

2:26:15

Do you know what you're gonna do?

2:26:17

So I can tell you that my intention right now is to start at 40 dollars and go up from there based on what the results are and how many people are showing up.

2:26:29

You know my concern, uh I mean this is this is the practicalities of how our city government runs.

2:26:36

When you have flexibility, and you have seven of us, and when things are happening in real time, I mean think about this.

2:26:43

This is like this is like the NFL.

2:26:45

Things are coming at you fast and strong, and you better have make quick decisions.

2:26:51

But you got seven of us, and we got a lot of pressure.

2:26:54

We got businesses telling us, hey, you need to open this.

2:26:56

You got residents saying I don't feel safe, and it's coming at it, and then we're throwing it at you to try to take all of what we're saying in real time.

2:27:06

Of course, while then directing our police department and others.

2:27:09

I I just have concerns about, and it's not you per se.

2:27:12

I just there these are real-time decisions, and I think one of the successes we made was not having all that flexibility was saying this is what we think is appropriate, and implemented it.

2:27:22

And you know what?

2:27:23

You did.

2:27:24

You did it to perfection in our police department, did it to perfection.

2:27:27

I I just I'm very concerned about having all this flexibility because when things come fast, when you get sort of that famous line from Mike Tyson, when you get punched in the face, things go awry.

2:27:37

Mr.

2:27:38

Mr.

2:27:38

Mayor.

2:27:39

I yeah, I just I get you.

2:27:42

Um I think we need to trust our when it comes to this.

2:27:45

I feel we need to trust our city manager, we need to trust our chief of police who have done an incredible job managing uh this there's things that some things I'm I may not may not like on certain issues, which I'm very clear to you about, Eric.

2:28:00

Um this is not one of them.

2:28:03

And I believe that those emergency style restrictions that we adopted were never meant to be permanent policies.

2:28:10

We can't say we're having a successful month of March only based on safety.

2:28:15

We need to have a successful month of March based on safety and people being able to enjoy our city and being able to conduct business in uh in in uh in in a proper way in our city.

2:28:27

Um so I don't I I feel comfortable giving Eric this this flexibility because the promise to the businesses was a number of years, at least my commitment to the business community a number of years ago was thank you for coming forward with these recommendations because a lot of the recommendations came from them, as you mentioned, Mr.

2:28:47

Mr.

2:28:48

Mayor.

2:28:49

Um, but it was with a commitment that it wouldn't be permanent, that it wouldn't be permanent, that once we started turning the page that we you know start reconsidering you know issues relating to you know blanket closures of entire streets, blanket closures of parking, blanket proposals about curfews, uh the barricade grids and the automatic shutdowns of certain areas of our city like the beaches and and all that.

2:29:16

Those who are crisis tools, and they belong in the toolbox.

2:29:20

They absolutely belong in the toolbox, but this is why we delegate to you the trust to be our city manager to make emergency decisions as may be needed, closure of sidewalk cafes, closures of the beach, closure of of garages, moving up LPRs, uh curfew if if necessary, this is what we trust you for.

2:29:42

Um and we're giving him the tools.

2:29:45

You know, he can implement these these tools without making it the blanket policy.

2:29:50

Let me ask this question.

2:30:00

Um, if you mind, Commissioner Suarez, I'm gonna ask your question, because a couple of years ago I had worked on a plan and uh Commissioner Fernandez, you and I had co-primed uh sort of the outline of what we implemented, and Commissioner Suarez, you came up with the idea about the parking, if that's my recollection at least.

2:30:08

What's your thoughts on sort of rolling that back at this point?

2:30:13

Thank you, Mr.

2:30:14

Mayor.

2:30:15

Um I'm not a public safety expert.

2:30:22

Okay, I'm um just the regular guy who lives in Miami Beach.

2:30:26

I think I have to take the advice from the chief and the city manager, and if they feel like they need the flexibility for um to to move the parking rates up to $100 uh at this point, uh I mean, who am I to argue that?

2:30:44

I think um I think there's been certainly a large sentiment from the community that we want to you know open up Miami Beach.

2:30:56

Um and that's why I I simply asked our city manager do you think the measures in place are gonna protect us and keep us safe for the spring break?

2:31:07

And he just said yes.

2:31:09

Um I I think it's it's we have good dialogue, but at the end of the day, really you know we're not professionals, we're just lay people, and you know, Eric and and the chief are experienced government officials, and if they feel like this is gonna keep us safe, you know, who am I to argue with that?

2:31:31

Um so you know, those are my thoughts.

2:31:35

I I think we've done a very successful job transitioning March from a party all you can day and night for spring break to now a fitness destination.

2:31:54

We have high rocks coming, athletics, Watapalooza, we have blue zones coming.

2:32:00

Um it's it's gonna be completely transformed.

2:32:04

Um and it's in my opinion, I think it's okay to sort of take a pivot and start to change the sort of uh dynamic of our march.

2:32:17

And like I said, if the if if our the people that we hire to tell us what's best as far as public safety and event planning, think that this is appropriate.

2:32:29

I'm okay with that.

2:32:30

Mr.

2:32:31

Mirror.

2:32:31

Uh just a follow-up on that.

2:32:34

Commissioner Fernandez, I asked uh I have a question for the chief, but but just to follow me, you know, I and I and I just want to highlight um Commissioner Commissioner Suarez's response because you've been so consistent.

2:32:46

Your first discussion on this day is uh our first spring break discussion a number of years ago.

2:32:52

You asked the same exact question of the city manager.

2:32:56

Then the following year, you asked the same exact question of the city manager.

2:33:01

Do you believe that this is what you need to keep our city safe?

2:33:05

And and you supported that.

2:33:07

Uh and so I just want to highlight um your consistency in trusting.

2:33:12

Uh we speak a lot, actually, a lot of times when we compliment our police, we speak about police discretions.

2:33:19

We trust police with this question.

2:33:22

Uh and I and I trust um uh Chief Jones with uh with that level of police discretion that a chief should be trusted with I'll add Commissioner Fernandez that predating Commissioner Suarez.

2:33:38

I think every because I've been on this day as now six years, uh first as Commissioner Mayor, which I think I noted.

2:33:44

I think I'm the longest standing member, which is hard to believe.

2:33:47

But um, I think every year somebody asked our city manager at the time and our police chief of the time, are you comfortable with these measures?

2:33:54

Yes.

2:33:54

And obviously it didn't go well.

2:33:56

So I I'm not sure that's the uh but I but I hear your point, Commissioner Fernandez.

2:34:01

Um I'll ask you the same question, I guess Commissioner Suarez asked uh the city manager.

2:34:06

Is it and please tell us is there anything that you're uncomfortable with these rollbacks?

2:34:11

This is something a tool that you think you need to ensure the safety of our residents and visitors in our city.

2:34:18

Thanks, actually.

2:34:19

And I'll and I'll add the safety of the officers as well.

2:34:22

Certainly.

2:34:23

Uh, thanks to asking the question, um Mr.

2:34:26

Mayor.

2:34:27

The answer is no, I'm not uncomfortable with it.

2:34:30

In fact, I am looking forward to this year, a spring break uh for this real reason.

2:34:35

Uh the activation of the sporting events that's happening.

2:34:38

Uh one of the things in police work, positive activation of space actually reduces crime.

2:34:43

Classic example of that is the C V C FP we just went through to this the um football game, right?

2:34:50

A lot of people into in the city, tens of thousands, more people than as usual.

2:34:54

Of crime numbers went down.

2:34:55

I anticipate and expect crendoms to go down this March because of the activations we're having.

2:35:01

So very comfortable with uh the flexibility being given to the city manager to make decisions in real time.

2:35:06

And we have enough resources in place on the ground.

2:35:09

Not only the police officers will be working alpha bravo on the two highs uh weekends, but also all the support we're getting from outside agencies coming here to help us as they have in the past.

2:35:19

So we have resources to make the the pivot uh in real time if we so have to.

2:35:25

Thank you.

2:35:26

Uh who has to speak?

2:35:28

Commissioner Mateo Salinas.

2:35:30

So I anticipate that March is gonna be a great month because of these activations that we have, the sporting events and future proof great conferences.

2:35:39

And I think that the thing that when we talk about releasing um relaxing some of the measures is that the beach is different now.

2:35:46

People don't party on the beach.

2:35:48

After the Colin Harris concert, every everybody left.

2:35:51

Everybody left.

2:35:52

They hopped in their cars and they went to Winwood.

2:35:54

So I think we've grown up a bit, and that in large part I credit that to our marketing campaign.

2:35:58

We are leaning into the wellness activations.

2:36:01

We are leaning into being less of a party city.

2:36:03

People aren't drinking anymore.

2:36:05

Young people, old people, some blame Ozempik, who knows why, but people don't drink like they used to alcohol sales are down throughout the country.

2:36:12

So I'm comfortable relaxing these measures because I don't anticipate having parties and drinking in cars and streets to the level that we had it for three, four years ago, because parties have changed, habits have changed, Miami Beach has changed.

2:36:29

And again, Melissa and and GMCBB, great job on the marketing campaigns that we've done.

2:36:34

We have made it loud and clear to anyone that wants to come here.

2:36:38

That's not what we we're about anymore.

2:36:41

We are very much health and wellness, and I will be participating in these events, and I do challenge my colleagues if you want to um take me up on that offer.

2:36:50

I think we should all participate in these events that are happening.

2:36:53

And I I really uh feel comfortable with all these measures because we've done it correctly so many years now.

2:37:00

Um and and if I may, Melissa, can can we run the uh new campaign that just launched yesterday?

2:37:06

Is that okay?

2:37:06

I'd love to watch that again.

2:37:08

Okay, and this is exactly why I'm comfortable with these measures because I I just we're we're different now.

2:37:15

We're different.

2:37:15

Everything is different about spring break now, and I I'm really looking forward to what what the year is gonna bring.

2:37:39

Right.

2:37:46

So good morning.

2:37:47

Well, PJ cues that up.

2:37:48

Um we obviously had a very public breakup two years ago, gave a reality check.

2:37:53

Um, and this year we're really flexing about being the health and wellness capital.

2:37:57

So I hope uh what's that?

2:37:59

I see what you do there.

2:38:00

Yes, thank you.

2:38:00

Um so with that, hopefully, PJ, it's ready to go.

2:38:04

March, Miami Beach will continue its beach restrictions, DUI checkpoints, and parking limitations.

2:38:10

In other news, a man has woken up after 10 years.

2:38:13

The first thing he wants to do with his new lease on life party, like it's 26, 24.

2:38:37

Excuse me, sir.

2:38:38

There's no drinking in public.

2:38:42

Green tooth.

2:38:48

Green tooth.

2:38:50

Oh, good, he's breathing.

2:38:51

Why don't you come play with us?

2:39:24

I'll give it here for another 10 years.

2:39:39

Great job, Melissa and team and everyone that uh brought that together.

2:39:43

And I want to thank you also for having our actual Miami Beach police officers in that video.

2:39:48

Um that they weren't actors, they were real, and I appreciate that.

2:39:52

So and also uh Raven, that was shout out, Raven, for being in that.

2:39:55

That was that was great.

2:39:56

And I believe I understood that uh the run club, the Miami Beach Run Club were the runners that run past the the guy.

2:40:02

Um so great job.

2:40:04

I mean, it just really was uh we're we're changing, we're growing up, and I think we're gonna be in a good spot this year.

2:40:10

Thank you.

2:40:12

Thank you.

2:40:13

Thank you.

2:40:16

So we had um, Mr.

2:40:18

Mayor, we had a motion as amended.

2:40:22

Um Mr.

2:40:23

Manager, I trust you with the execution of spring break.

2:40:26

I trust the chief.

2:40:28

Uh if something goes wrong, you know, we're here to back you.

2:40:34

And in fact, I I trust you and the chief so much.

2:40:37

I'll put my name as a co-sponsor of R7V of your program because we're all in this together.

2:40:43

If things go well, we're all together.

2:40:46

If something happens, because it's a dangerous society out there, because it's the state changed laws that allow people to bring in weapons pretty much anywhere, or we're here to back you.

2:40:57

But we also need to back our community, our businesses, uh, and those who want to enjoy and prosper in our city.

2:41:04

So I move the item as amended.

2:41:07

I I promise Mitch Novick, he's been asking to say something.

2:41:10

Thank you, Mr.

2:41:11

Mayor.

2:41:12

Mitch Novick Sherbrook Hotel, 9th in Collins, which is no longer a hot spot.

2:41:19

Uh I am not in support of barricades uh or any uh the green ballots or anything that impedes traffic in our urban urban traffic grid, especially along Ocean Drive.

2:41:33

The barricades should just be at the flamingo park entrances on the west side of Washington Avenue.

2:41:40

Thank you, Mr.

2:41:41

Thank you.

2:41:43

Okay, I believe we had a motion and a second.

2:41:45

Yes, sir.

2:41:46

I have a motion by Commissioner Fernandez as amended, seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

2:41:50

Let's call the vote.

2:41:52

Yes, sir.

2:41:53

Uh all in favor of R7V as amended, please say aye.

2:41:57

Aye.

2:41:58

Anyone opposed?

2:42:00

The items approved 70.

2:42:02

We're listening, Commissioner Fernandez as a sponsor.

2:42:06

Okay, thank you, everyone.

2:42:08

Good good discussion.

2:42:10

Uh R5A.

2:42:13

Yes, sir.

2:42:16

R5A is an order to the mayor of City Commission of the City by Miami Beach Fort Amending Chapter 2 with the Maybe Beach City Code and Title Administration by amending Article 3 and title agencies, boards and committees by amending division one entitled generally by amending section 2-22 thereof and titled General General Requirements to Amend the Term Limit Provision applicable to members of city agencies, boards, and committees.

2:42:33

I'm providing for repealers of ability qualification and an effective date.

2:42:37

I move my item.

2:42:39

Second.

2:42:44

Anyone in the audience requesting to speak?

2:42:46

I see none, none in Zoom.

2:42:55

Oh, that's okay.

2:42:56

We have a motion and a second.

2:42:57

Call of it.

2:42:58

Uh Commissioner Bott.

2:42:59

This is an R5A.

2:43:01

Yes.

2:43:02

Commissioner Magazine.

2:43:03

Yes.

2:43:03

Commissioner Fernandez.

2:43:04

Yes.

2:43:05

Commissioner Dominguez.

2:43:06

Yes.

2:43:07

Vice Mayor Matil Salinas.

2:43:08

Yes.

2:43:09

Commissioner Suarez.

2:43:10

Mayor Minor.

2:43:11

Yes.

2:43:12

Motion carries the item is approved.

2:43:14

That was R5A.

2:43:16

Oops.

2:43:18

Like we are honored to have with us our tax collector Dariel Fernandez with us today.

2:43:24

Gave you a nice shout out last night at the state of the city.

2:43:27

Thanks for joining as well.

2:43:28

And you've been a great friend to Miami Beach and a great partner.

2:43:33

And I know you have some updates, so thanks for being with us.

2:43:35

Yes, I just wanted to um uh thank you for the opportunity to speak with all of you today to this morning.

2:43:42

Uh my name is Dario Fernandez.

2:43:43

I'm the county tax collector, and I'm here today in support of Iron C 7AW, sponsored by Commissioner Alex Fernandez.

2:43:51

This item create more coordination related to compliance with federal Cuban sanctions and reinforce the importance of proper authorization for businesses operating on the federal sanctions programs.

2:44:02

For more than 65 years, the Cuban Communist and Socialist dictatorship has approved the people of Cuba, support the reproduction and continue operating with financial support and special agreements from other nations.

2:44:17

No community understand that reality better than ours, and that is why sanctions, enforcement and contact members.

2:44:40

Thank you for the opportunity to speak, and thank you for your consideration.

2:44:43

God bless Miami Day County.

2:44:46

Go bless Miami Beach, and God bless the United States of America.

2:44:49

I have another good news for all of you in just three weeks.

2:44:53

I know that is the good news that all of you are waiting for.

2:45:00

So in uh three weeks in March 5th, uh, we're going to uh open in the new office of the tax collector for the first time ever here, Miami Beach.

2:45:07

So all of you all invite to come and celebrate this important milestone with you know with the office of the tax collector, of course, with Miami Beach.

2:45:16

Dario, why don't you explain to all of our residents uh what what that means?

2:45:20

What services are you gonna provide?

2:45:22

So Miami Beach.

2:45:23

First, I wanted to say thank you to to the uh city manager.

2:45:27

Thank you, Commissioner Alex Fernandez, thank you, Mayor, and thank you to all of you for supporting this.

2:45:31

I think for the first time the uh people, Miami uh beach wanted to have their own office.

2:45:37

What does it mean for all then?

2:45:38

Then now you don't need to go into uh downtown Miami to do to open your business.

2:45:45

Now you have the opportunity to come into our office, um, you know, apply for the local business tax.

2:45:50

Also, you're going to have the opportunity to renew your car registration, renew your ID, getting a new driver license in uh Miami Beach.

2:45:58

If you need to have any license like a you know, uh fishing and homesy license, uh if you need to pay your property taxes, if you have an equation, if you need help with your property taxes, we're going to be there.

2:46:10

Uh so we're going to have like a 13, 14 uh window.

2:46:14

Um our amazing thing is uh you know, waiting for for that day and ready to to serve the people of Miami Beach.

2:46:21

Thank you.

2:46:22

Mr.

2:46:22

Mayor, Commissioner Fernandez, thank you.

2:46:24

Uh and uh I just want to go back to the resolution that's that's before us, uh supporting your initiative, Mr.

2:46:34

Tax Collector, supporting the county's resolution sponsored by Commissioner Natalie Orbis Melian uh calling for stronger oversight of the regulations of commerce with communist Cuba and are acting for better coordination and enforcement at the local level.

2:46:54

Because we are the community with the largest Cuban exile community in the United States.

2:47:02

Uh and for many families in our community, including my own, your family, Dariel, the family of so many of our of our colleagues here, Commissioner Dominguez, whose family are exiles, the families of so many who have placed their trust on us.

2:47:19

The reality of the communist Cuban regime is tied to exile.

2:47:27

Yes.

2:47:27

It's tied to loss of freedom, loss of property, loss of rights, the denial of democratic rights, the loss of free and open elections, the arrest of uh of opponents of the government, the execution, the murderous execution of people that that they disagree with.

2:47:52

And that's why this initiative, Darriel Fernandez, that you have put forward is so important, because it's grounded on something very big basic.

2:48:00

It's compliance with existing law.

2:48:03

At the federal level, at the state level, uh at the county level, there are already laws uh and sanctions governing transactions and business activities involving involving Cuba and uh and other sanctioned foreign governments.

2:48:20

It's not just Cuba.

2:48:21

There is other uh sanctioned uh governments.

2:48:23

And our here, our role here, um we're not creating foreign policy.

2:48:29

What we're doing is uh is ensuring that we're laws already exist, that they're actually being followed and supporting your efforts.

2:48:38

And when you identify a business that is engaging illegally with an enemy of this country like Cuba is, that we go after their operations and that we shut them down and that we tell them that they have no place in our community.

2:48:57

Follow the law, support democracy, run your business, but follow the laws of this country, and let's not be supporting regimes that have destroyed families, killed people, uh, and and arrested, arrested and imprisoned their opponents.

2:49:14

So thank you, Dariel, for bringing this forward.

2:49:17

Thank you, all of you for always putting people first in Miami Day County on here in Miami Beach.

2:49:21

Thank you.

2:49:22

Thank you, Commissioner Fernandez, thank you, Dariel.

2:49:24

Oh, Commissioner Magazine.

2:49:25

Uh Mr.

2:49:27

Tax Collector, uh, sounds like a nickname, but uh it's uh your commitment, uh not just to Miami Beach, but I I follow you closely um to the county is just incredible.

2:49:37

You seem to be everywhere at all times at all places.

2:49:40

So I'm familiar you've uh done a similar initiative around the county.

2:49:44

I thank you for that, Commissioner Fernandez.

2:49:46

Thank you for making sure that this is uh front and center of Miami Beach.

2:49:50

I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor to this.

2:49:52

Please um my daughter's mother uh grew up in a communist uh regime in in Poland, and she was a young girl uh and she saw her father kidnapped out of their home never to return.

2:50:04

Uh so this hits uh near and dear to my family.

2:50:07

And while Poland is uh turned the corner, I couldn't imagine having that tied to my family if they were still living in a regime like it was the mid-1980s.

2:50:16

Um so thank you for what you're doing.

2:50:17

This is supportive of the people uh that deserve freedom and need it, and thank you for Commissioner Fernandez for the leadership here.

2:50:25

Thank you.

2:50:25

And Mr.

2:50:26

Mayor, I'd be remiss not to thank all of you uh also for on consent uh approving our our resolution expressing hope for the peaceful transition to democracy in Venezuela.

2:50:38

Amen.

2:50:39

In Venezuela, where they finally have captured and arrested yet another murderous dictator who repressed rights uh who executed people.

2:50:50

Um and it's so tied also to what's going on in in Cuba.

2:50:55

So I want to thank all of you uh for standing in unity with our Venezuelan community because at the end of the day, what unites all of this is oppression.

2:51:04

Yes.

2:51:05

People who have been oppressed by their government, and we're standing in unity with them.

2:51:11

Thank you all for your support of these two items.

2:51:14

Thank you.

2:51:14

Thank you.

2:51:15

God bless you all.

2:51:17

Come anytime, Dario.

2:51:21

Good.

2:51:23

Uh I'm looking forward to March 5th.

2:51:26

Yes, yes.

2:51:30

Uh sure that was intentional.

2:51:32

Yes.

2:51:33

You think of everything.

2:51:34

Uh R5D.

2:51:40

R5D is a temporary uh it's an ordinance of the Mayor City Commission of the City of Miami Beach, Florida, amending the code of the City of Miami Beach of Part B entitled Land Development Regulations by amending chapter two thereof, and title administration and review procedures, Article 5, and title Rezonings and Development Approval, Section 2.5.2 and title conditional use by amending section 2.5.2.1 and titled purpose to provide for exceptions from conditional use regulations for certain neighborhood impact establishments in the designated commercial districts and provide for administrative review and enforcement and providing for codification, repeat or sub-ability and an effective date.

2:52:14

R5D is a second reading public hearing, it is uh requires five sevens vote.

2:52:18

That's R5D.

2:52:19

Commissioner Fernandez and co-sponsored by Commissioner Bott.

2:52:22

Thank you, Mr.

2:52:23

Mayor.

2:52:24

Uh this is a proposal that establishes a pilot program intended to incentivize the reactivation of uh vacant storefronts.

2:52:34

When we speak uh to people throughout our community, you know, our residents speak so nostalgically about the old Miami Beach that where they often recall live music places where they could go uh have dinner, have coffee, have brunch, listen to some live music.

2:52:53

And actually, in fact, um when I when I talk to a lot of residents, they think of places like Van Dyke's, okay.

2:53:00

And a beloved establishment like that that people reminisce about, if Van Dyks wanted to come back to our city today, it wouldn't be able, it wouldn't be allowed to open as of rights uh in in our city because our zoning code, our laws don't allow it.

2:53:20

Um and and so that became clear that we need to do something.

2:53:25

We need to correct.

2:53:26

Uh we need to correct to be the community that our residents want us to be.

2:53:31

A community where not only they can go out and dine, but have fun, have bring back joy uh to some of these corridors so that our families and our residents and our visitors can enjoy them.

2:53:43

Uh it this establishes a um a temporary period until December 31st, uh during during which uh businesses can apply to the administration uh to have live entertainment in areas like Lincoln Road uh from Collins to to Alton Road or other areas of our city like Washington Avenue where we see high amounts of of vacancy without having to go through the conditional use process.

2:54:13

It has an expiration date.

2:54:15

If there are unintended consequences, we we don't have to extend it, but if we see success, we can always uh extend the um the the duration of the ordinance.

2:54:25

Uh Mr.

2:54:26

Director, I don't know if there's anything you want to add that might be pertinent.

2:54:30

Uh no, Commissioner, you covered everything.

2:54:33

With that, I moved the item.

2:54:35

Tom, can you go through?

2:54:38

I followed the planning board meeting from afar.

2:54:42

I was in and out, and they had some things.

2:54:44

So can you talk about what this includes and what this covers?

2:54:49

Sure.

2:55:00

It basically, as um Commissioner Fernandez indicated, it creates a temporary set of regulations through the end of this year, which could be extended by the commission that would allow for um alcoholic beverage establishments, restaurants that have indoor entertainment to forego having to get conditional use approval for indoor entertainment.

2:55:12

There are some guardrails to make sure that establishments that are too big would still have to go through the process, but within these um identified areas of the city, Washington Avenue, Lincoln Road, uh Collins Avenue, 71st Street, and 41st Street, they would be allowed to simply come in for their CUNBTR without having to go through the lengthy uh certificate of use permit process.

2:55:43

I I love this.

2:55:46

Um I want to be added as a co-sponsor.

2:55:48

Uh I haven't done my homework with staff about some of this.

2:55:54

Um if it's no, it's no, would you be in any way amenable to hearing this in two weeks at the February?

2:56:05

And I'm I'm gonna be totally supportive.

2:56:07

Uh I want to better understand some of the nuances, or if Tom, if you'd be able to just go a bit more in depth, maybe I can get people here.

2:56:14

Basically, I'll I'll basically go through the eligibility criteria.

2:56:18

Yeah, this would apply to businesses um within an existing building which has a certificate of occupancy that was issued before January 1st of 2025.

2:56:30

And the reason we have this is because what we don't want is somebody that has an existing CUP to vacate that C UP and then try to come in.

2:56:38

Um so there's a safeguard there, and and they they in order to be eligible, they would have to meet that.

2:56:44

Um the um there would be no outdoor entertainment and no adult entertainment.

2:56:50

So this would not apply to outdoor entertainment or adult entertainment, or rooftop, or rooftop, it would not apply to any open air or rooftop facility.

2:56:58

The maximum occupancy could not exceed 750 persons.

2:57:03

So as I said before, this is not intended to be for very large venues, but for those that are smaller to more moderate.

2:57:11

So basically, right now, if your restaurant without entertainment has an occupancy of, say, 350 or 400, you have to go get a CUP.

2:57:22

Under this, you would not have to get a CUP, you could open up, but that occupancy could not exceed 750 persons.

2:57:29

Similarly, if you have indoor entertainment, right now, if your occupancy exceeds 200, you have to go get a CUP.

2:57:37

This would give you some flexibility, but not over 750 persons, so it wouldn't be the bigger.

2:57:43

And to add clarity, if I may, Commissioner, if you if you yield, uh, Mr.

2:57:47

Director, what safeguards do we have in the event someone abuses us?

2:57:51

Let's say um they go in, uh they get an administrative approval to have live entertainment.

2:57:57

Will we have the ability, or the administration have the ability to revoke that privilege and then say, you know, you gotta go then through the conditional use process?

2:58:06

There's a provision.

2:58:08

We already have a provision in the code in sections uh 102-381 through 102-385 that give the administration the authority to revoke a BTR based upon that criteria, and so that would apply here.

2:58:21

So, and and I just want to confirm with our chief deputy city attorney, and I love that title because when I say chief deputy city attorney, it usually gives them enough time to walk from their seat to the podium.

2:58:35

Um with the adoption of this ordinance, if someone is found to be a nuisance, to be abusing this, to be creating uh noise, we would be able to take away uh the right that this is giving them and send them then if they want to continue, they would have to go through the conditional use process.

2:58:53

The if if the if the establishment violated, for example, if there were habitual conduct in violation of the city, state or federal law, or if there are material misrepresentations, if there were um gambling, prostitution, there are specifically.

2:59:10

I mean, habitual violations of the noise ordinance could be part of the reason to shut a business down for this.

2:59:16

I just want to make sure I want to make sure it's in the toolbox.

2:59:19

And then and then they would then rather than having this privilege to help good businesses, you know, be able to fill up vacant storefronts, they would have to go then through the conditional use process where they would have to show operational plans and you know meet a whole different other number of requirements, and that's obviously as a much lengthier process.

2:59:39

That's right.

2:59:40

Okay, excellent.

2:59:41

I I appreciate that.

2:59:42

And one question I have, given that this program sunsets, if somebody gets a CUP and they have no violations, it's not as if that CUP sunsets at the end of the program.

2:59:54

They maintain that until maintained it.

2:59:56

Okay, excellent.

2:59:57

And given that we're concentrated here in our commercial corridors, right?

3:00:01

It's not as if this is in Sunset Harbor or South of Fifth or West.

3:00:06

Even along West Avenue or Bell Isle, areas that we've intentionally kind of restricted, I hate using that word, but restricted some of our entertainment options.

3:00:17

Given this is really concentrated in our commercial corridors, really not a butting uh residential areas.

3:00:23

What is the um intent of excluding kind of open air or any type of rooftop activation?

3:00:32

In uh in our experience, open air and rooftop can create a type of nuisance that has a much bigger impact on both neighboring residential areas as well as potentially neighboring commercial areas.

3:00:49

And that's why, under the code, regardless of what your occupational content is, all rooftop and all open air entertainment establishments have to get a CUP.

3:00:59

So if you're even just a restaurant, right?

3:01:01

Let's say there was the new restaurant on Lincoln Road, uh Oro or Aura, right?

3:01:06

And it's inside, but they they have that like meal it type vibe where they have outdoor entertainment, it's not a nightclub on a roof.

3:01:13

Um they wouldn't be able to fall in under this outdoor portion, no.

3:01:19

And they also already have a conditional use permit.

3:01:22

I know them, but I'm just saying uh a similar example, right?

3:01:25

That they seem like both those entities like great operators.

3:01:29

Uh it's not a nightclub on the rooftop.

3:01:34

Uh is there accommodation for that or under this program, or that we could consider even?

3:01:40

What's challenging with outdoor entertainment is the way that we define entertainment is a performance.

3:01:45

And so under the code administratively, we really can't pick and choose what type of entertainment you have or how loud it is.

3:01:53

It's just a performance is entertainment.

3:01:55

As part of the CUP process, the planning board can regulate that.

3:01:59

So using MILA as an example, they can regulate to make sure that any entertainment they have is going to be ambient level, that there's going to be certain hours of operation, there's certain guardrails that are part of the CUP that would be challenging for us to do administratively.

3:02:14

Indoors, it's not the same type of challenge because it's fully enclosed and it's not going to interior.

3:02:23

Entertainment that they have.

3:02:25

Isn't it just uh outdoor dining?

3:02:27

I believe that they either have a DJ or some limited ambient entertainment.

3:02:33

So even ambient music would be considered entertainment?

3:02:37

If it's performed, yes.

3:02:39

Performed.

3:02:40

Okay.

3:02:40

By like a DJ DJ or a three-piece or a solo singer, all of that falls under the definition of energy.

3:02:48

And I guess I'd see Sarah and Marilyn like appear behind me if I go, should we always consider a DJ's live entertainment?

3:02:55

Yes.

3:02:57

Okay.

3:02:57

So have a question.

3:02:58

Thank you, Commissioner.

3:02:59

This is uh when we talk about peeling back some of the red tape, this is front and center with that.

3:03:03

And you've been front and center of pushing that pill back.

3:03:07

You you know the process, Mr.

3:03:08

Wally, you don't have to raise your hand from the middle of the crowd, come up to the podium.

3:03:12

Well, I'd like to ask Joe, would you like to be a sponsor of the ordinance?

3:03:16

I'm happy to have you a second co-prime.

3:03:18

Perfect.

3:03:19

Because you've really been very vocal about rolling back bureaucracy.

3:03:26

So I have a question about um obviously I'm supporting this.

3:03:30

I'm a co-sponsor.

3:03:32

Um what is the mechanism if somebody uh gets this administratively and then turns out to be a bad actor?

3:03:39

I mean, if you've got a CUP, get hauled before the planning board and that potentially gets revoked.

3:03:44

So can you illuminate that, please?

3:03:47

Yes, it would basically be if they began to get violations, um, they could potentially be subject to Section 102-381 through 102-386, particularly if they become habitual violations.

3:04:03

Because these do not include outdoor entertainment, even if they were to get indoor entertainment violations, there's less of a chance that it'll become a long-term nuisance.

3:04:15

But should it become a long-term nuisance, the provisions of that section of the city code could potentially be effectuated and they could potentially lose their VTR.

3:04:25

So, what's the mechanism for triggering that?

3:04:27

Who's watching, who's monitoring that?

3:04:30

Uh, our enforcement uh proceedings are complaint driven.

3:04:34

So if neighbors uh file complaints and code enforcement begins to issue violations, we would be notified, and then we would have to keep a tally of those.

3:04:44

Um also, as you're aware, because this has a sunset provision, I'm sure at the end of the year, we'll be able to provide a report on who may have opened up using these revised procedures, and we can see whether or not any violations were issued, how it's working, whether or not it needs to be tweaked and potentially extended.

3:05:05

If it looks like it's creating problems, the commission may just decide to let it sunset and um not implement it anymore.

3:05:13

Okay, but thank you.

3:05:14

And I want to echo if I may, Madam Vice Mayor, something that I mentioned to the Lincoln Road bid, and thank you to the Lincoln Road bid for expressing its support of this ordinance.

3:05:23

But something that I mentioned to those property owners is that since it does have an expiration date, the intent of this is to encourage property owners to fill up their storefronts while this policy exists because it's not a given that it will continue.

3:05:39

So while you have this opportunity to bring a venue up to 750 people and have live entertainment without having to go through the rigorous process of uh of a of a conditional use permit, you know, fill up your your your empty storefronts because you have no guarantee that next year uh this policy is going to continue.

3:06:03

And I mentioned to the business owners, one of the things that I'm gonna be looking at is has it been used?

3:06:09

Because if they haven't used this, if this policy doesn't yield them filling up their storefronts and retail spaces remain empty, then I'm not gonna sponsor uh or so or or support a continuation of of the pilot.

3:06:25

It really it really is about reactivating uh our our corridors that need help.

3:06:34

Uh Commissioner Bond, I don't like you as a co-sponsor.

3:06:36

Would you be a coal prime?

3:06:38

I would be able to do that.

3:06:38

You're my planning board sister.

3:06:44

You are yeah, you can be a co-prime too.

3:06:46

Co-prime for me too.

3:06:48

Yeah, thank you.

3:06:49

Mr.

3:06:49

Mayor, may I make uh uh just uh an in front you know, just to give some context uh for you all, just to give you a scale size.

3:06:59

750 people is not a small show.

3:07:06

Mangoes is 800.

3:07:08

That's mangoes.

3:07:10

I was thinking this kind of a thing would be for jazz clubs and that kind of live cool stuff that we used to have on Washington Avenue, but 750 people with a DJ.

3:07:23

Remember, it's indoors.

3:07:25

There's not going to be anything about volume.

3:07:27

It'll be kicking if it's a DJ.

3:07:30

And indoors, it won't affect the street.

3:07:33

But I just want to be careful and and uh to keep the guardrails on this kind of a thing, because these uh at 750 people, it can be uh something that can get put us back into the category of trouble that we had before on Washington in certain instances that we all reeled from and reacted to, and it's years later, but I just want you to understand the scale of something that's 750 people.

3:08:13

Thank you.

3:08:14

If I could just because I just on that, Tom or Nick Sorry.

3:08:21

As it relates to the 750 people, and I and I really value David's perspective because he is an expert in this in this industry, the differentiation mangoes.

3:08:34

Is Mangles and out is an open area, an outdoor area, or is it an indoor establishment all indoor?

3:08:41

Mango's is primarily indoors, and I believe that their entertainment component, and then David can correct me if I'm wrong, is indoors.

3:08:48

They do have a very sizable outdoor sidewalk dining area, but I believe that most of their uh entertainment is indoors, and also it's important, but I I thought based on our 2 a.m.

3:08:59

conversations uh that Mangles was an open-air uh establishment.

3:09:04

I know that Mango's recently obtained approval from the HPB to enclose the inside courtyard.

3:09:10

But that has that happened yet?

3:09:11

But I think the courtyard, well, David could probably speak better to to his timeline, I'm not sure, but but I think the courtyard portions of the courtyard are outdoor.

3:09:19

Okay, yeah.

3:09:20

So um, and then and I'm asking my questions.

3:09:24

Thank you, David.

3:09:25

Um so then does this apply to nightclubs, or we're talking about restaurants?

3:09:32

What are we talking about?

3:09:34

It does not apply to nightclubs.

3:09:35

We have a specific provision where if entertainment is proposed, it can only be for a restaurant or a supper club.

3:09:42

So this was not intended to foster standalone nightclubs, but instead to foster restaurants or restaurant supper clubs.

3:09:50

Okay, so like what was the name of that place that was on Washington on like 15th Dave and you don't remember?

3:10:04

A place like Vendome wouldn't be able to open with something like this.

3:10:07

No.

3:10:08

They you would have to be uh you would either have to meet the definition of restaurant or restaurant supper club.

3:10:13

Okay.

3:10:14

All right.

3:10:14

So I just uh David, does that address your concern?

3:10:17

That's a big difference.

3:10:19

Okay.

3:10:19

I just want to make sure because I I don't want people that don't understand the technicalities of this or get concerned and think we're bringing back places like Exchange or Vendome.

3:10:29

That's not what this ordinance does.

3:10:31

To the contrary, keeps things indoors, and we're talking about places like restaurants where they were people can go and need in strictly commercial corridors away from areas where we have neighborhood vision plants like Sunset Harbor and West Avenue and South of Fifth where we prohibit uh this type of entertainment.

3:10:50

Thank you, Mr.

3:10:51

Mayor.

3:10:52

Mitch, let me just Commissioner Mateo Salinas uh speak and then Mitch Novick.

3:10:56

Thank you.

3:10:56

Thank you, Mr.

3:10:57

Mayor.

3:10:57

Um I love this legislation.

3:10:59

I think this is great.

3:11:00

And I appreciate uh Mr.

3:11:02

Wallach's point about 750.

3:11:04

I think that um if the legislation reads up to 750, and I think that you'd have to have one heck of a marketing team to get 750 people in a startup uh that want a party in Miami Beach and B you know that want to come to a new business.

3:11:19

It it takes a while to grow that crowd, and so I think that um, you know, 750 is nothing to be worried about at this moment, but thank you for this legislation.

3:11:29

Mitch Novick uh Mango's neighbor.

3:11:33

I agree with uh Mr.

3:11:34

Wallach.

3:11:35

Uh reason I'm standing here is something Tom said.

3:11:38

Open air entertainment is a nuisance, uh, especially along the 100 or 1,000 block of ocean drive.

3:11:48

Uh when those businesses exploit the public realm with blasting music or noise, that's that is what fuels the carnival circus atmosphere.

3:12:02

Open air carnival.

3:12:04

Whatever it is.

3:12:04

I forgot, I haven't said it in a while.

3:12:06

Carnival-like circus that we're so familiar with.

3:12:10

Thank you.

3:12:12

Troy.

3:12:12

Hi, Troy Wright, Washington Avenue.

3:12:14

Thank you, Alex.

3:12:15

Um, Commissioner Fernandez, we will definitely encourage Washington Avenue businesses to participate.

3:12:21

This is something that is needed, and I think we'll encourage and do as much as we can to support this.

3:12:26

Thank you.

3:12:26

Mr.

3:12:27

Mayor, thank you.

3:12:27

Since Troy, Troy, is there any other uh bid representative here?

3:12:32

I see Lincoln Road bid if and if Claudia could approach the podium.

3:12:38

Is any other bid present here?

3:12:41

Just for the record, Amy Mayhew from 41st Street is on Zoom.

3:12:45

Okay.

3:12:46

I and if if I just want the two of you and the other ones that are participating virtually to know the intent here is for your bid for your property owners to use this to fill vacant space.

3:13:00

Our city needs the support of the private industry.

3:13:04

The city on its own cannot rely on positive activations of special events and great events, and my colleagues have brought forward.

3:13:12

The best positive activation is of the free market of commerce coming in and filling our open spaces is why I've sponsored this ordinance.

3:13:23

We need your property owners to cooperate.

3:13:26

And if they do not use this ordinance, and if I do not see spaces being filled up, I will not sponsor its continuation at the sunset of this ordinance.

3:13:35

And I need you to please relay that to your property owners because we need to activate our commercial corridors.

3:13:42

The incentives will be there.

3:13:43

You have a government that's willing to cooperate, but that means the property owners need to cooperate, but with what they control their rents.

3:13:52

All these policies mean nothing.

3:13:54

We can throw them out the window if property owners do not cooperate with the rent.

3:14:00

So while policies like this exists, please try to encourage them to be flexible with the rents, to be flexible with their demands.

3:14:10

At some point it comes to them, and if they don't cooperate, then I'm not going to continue it.

3:14:16

Mr.

3:14:16

Mayor.

3:14:17

Well, we will reach out as much as possible to what it's not going to be easy, obviously, but we will definitely reach out Washington Avenue as much as possible, and I will contact as many property owners as possible in the spaces that could be used in this to encourage the entertainment.

3:14:34

So you will get that commitment from us.

3:14:36

Lincoln Road bit as well.

3:14:38

Thank you.

3:14:39

Commissioner Bott, then Commissioner Mateo Salinas.

3:14:41

So you know, we had um this little unoccupied space up in North Beach, and it has become into it has become possibly the singest single most successful business up in North Beach, which is La Poupelle, which is a live uh cabaret enclosed.

3:14:56

Um shows get sold out within minutes of tickets being released.

3:15:01

It is live entertainment, it's local entertainment, it's awesome.

3:15:04

Um they had a pop-up show at a an open and unused venue on Lincoln Road, and it was sold out and it was spectacular.

3:15:13

And so that is the kind of thing we're looking for for the residents who are chiming in saying you're bringing in terrible operators and you're you know you're encouraging encouraging club culture.

3:15:23

We want live music back in the city because we all love live music.

3:15:28

We don't want people, you know.

3:15:31

Uh we don't want chaos, but I believe I think we all are united in the belief that we as a city have evolved and are continuing to evolve and value different things.

3:15:40

So we are going to rely on good operators coming forward, and we won't tolerate bad operators trying to pull a fast one.

3:15:48

Um, like another business in North Beach who claimed to be a cabaret and was nothing of the sort.

3:15:54

Um I will also say, and this is a tangential comment, but I will also say I've heard now of two businesses, two long-time established businesses who are being forced out because of egregious rent raises.

3:16:06

Um the Panther Coffee and Sunset Harbor, that I would venture every single person in this room has gone to at least once, um, got their rent jacked by $15,000 a month, which is egregious, and the new tenants were in there measuring for drapes before they had even you know made a final decision.

3:16:24

Um and now Cheeseburger Baby on Washington Avenue.

3:16:27

Troy, I don't know if you I don't know where you went, but uh there you are.

3:16:31

Um, I I'm about to reach out to you, not on the dais to talk about that, but you know, this is a business that's been around for decades, it has been awarded proclamations, and so this is absurd.

3:16:44

We cannot have landlords price gouging um rents whether you are talking about a space that is sitting empty and vacant and bringing down the quality of life for the block that it's upon it's on, or you know, trying to gouge rents out of people who are you know good operators.

3:17:02

We had another one in North Beach, um uh chachos.

3:17:08

Uh you know, they they had they'd been around for three or four years, and all of a sudden their rent was through the roof, and that's I mean, you can only charge so much money for food.

3:17:18

So um another conversation for another time, but that's looming on the horizon.

3:17:26

Commissioner Mateo Salinas.

3:17:28

Mitch, just to alleviate your concerns, it says in the uh legislation no outdoor entertainment and no adult entertainment is permitted.

3:17:35

Okay, and also no portion should be located on the top floor of a building, so it won't be the outdoor entertainment.

3:17:40

Okay.

3:17:41

Okay, good.

3:17:42

Want to make sure you uh thanks.

3:17:45

Okay, thank you.

3:17:45

Right to call a vote.

3:17:47

Uh and just just quickly, Mr.

3:17:49

Mayor, uh, just one confirmation.

3:17:51

Pop-up uh establishments uh because we have our expanded pop-up legislation.

3:17:57

Um would they be able, would pop-ups be able to use this?

3:18:04

There's nothing prohibiting a um a business operating under a pop-up permit now from applying under this program.

3:18:12

Okay.

3:18:12

And a building that has received a CO before January 2026 or 25.

3:18:23

It would be this the application is limited to an existing building which has a CO that was issued on or before January January 1st, 2025.

3:18:33

Let me ask you something.

3:18:34

When a business goes in, let's say a space has been empty and is about to be filled.

3:18:41

Do they let's say it's been empty for 10 years?

3:18:44

I don't know, space has been empty for 10 years, and they're gonna go in and fill it.

3:18:49

Do they need to apply for a certificate of occupancy?

3:18:52

Yeah, only if they um are changing um attributes that would require it, but in an example like that, we would interpret that to be a building that was issued a CO because it's I'm sorry.

3:19:05

You're interpreting it to be what?

3:19:06

We would interpret that to be a building that was issued a CO prior to January 1.

3:19:11

It's not a tenant space or a particular use, it's the building.

3:19:16

So in that particular instance, a building.

3:19:18

Yeah, if it's a building.

3:19:20

But not the individual unit.

3:19:21

Exactly.

3:19:22

Okay, so let's say an individual unit currently has an open permit and or that's and they haven't for that individual unit received a CO or even a TCO.

3:19:34

Um, but they find a tenant that is willing to complete the work and get a CO for that space, they would be able to qualify for this.

3:19:44

Correct.

3:19:44

As long as the building was issued the CEO prior to that.

3:19:47

I appreciate the clarification on the record.

3:19:50

Thank you.

3:19:50

With that, I move the item.

3:19:52

Second.

3:19:53

Let's call the vote.

3:19:54

It is a public hearing, and I have three individuals requesting to speak online.

3:19:58

First speaker is Sara de los Reyes.

3:20:00

Please unmute yourself.

3:20:03

Hi everybody, Sarah de los Radio Sunser Harbor Neighborhood Association.

3:20:07

Um I've been listening.

3:20:08

Thank you, Alex, for clarifying the fact that if the neighbor who has an ordinance that there's no entertainment, that they're now going to be able to they can actually open up uh a place, but no entertainment in it.

3:20:20

Uh so I was happy that you actually enforce that.

3:20:23

And yes, a DJ is entertaining, Mr.

3:20:26

Magazine.

3:20:27

And we have that issue right now with Harbor House.

3:20:29

He has DJs up there.

3:20:31

I haven't gone up there to actually see it, but the neighborhood has called me and say that they do have DJ DJ in that area from time to time.

3:20:39

And that's entertainment.

3:20:40

And I know he wanted a piano.

3:20:42

So I'm just want to make sure that in our neighborhood, because we keep it so non-entertainment and open until 2 a.m.

3:20:49

And everybody's happy about it that it continues to be that way.

3:20:52

Thank you very much.

3:20:53

Thank you so much.

3:20:54

Our next public speaker is Amy Mayhew.

3:21:01

Morning, Commissioners.

3:21:02

Amy Mayhew with the 41st Street Business Improvement District.

3:21:05

Just want to express our gratitude to Commissioners Bott and Fernandez for supporting sponsoring this item.

3:21:12

Um and then also for the reasons that Commissioner Fernandez, you expressed into helping re-engage vacant spaces.

3:21:19

We're extremely excited to see that be potential opportunity for them, but also as a lifeline for even one of our own existing channels.

3:21:26

Um Capi Avante, hopefully we'll be able to see them soon be able to take this up as an op option that helps uh really bring vibrancy to the street and see that encouraging moving forward with the vacancies.

3:21:37

So thank you.

3:21:38

Thank you.

3:21:38

Our next public speaker is Johan Moore.

3:21:41

Please go ahead.

3:21:45

Yes, good morning.

3:21:46

Uh I believe it's still morning.

3:21:48

Uh while the the neighbors I think are enthusiastic about having empty spaces filled.

3:21:53

I just want to want to back uh back up and backstop the comments um concerning noise.

3:21:59

Um I understand this is meant for indoors.

3:22:02

Um I'm hoping that customary uh uh noise uh limits in terms of how far it shall not be audible will be strictly enforced um certainly after a first warning uh for these businesses.

3:22:16

Thank you very much.

3:22:18

Thank you, sir.

3:22:19

This concludes our public hearing.

3:22:22

Thank you.

3:22:22

Let's call a vote.

3:22:24

One that wants to prime is all of our legislation.

3:22:26

Anyone that wants to prime is welcome.

3:22:28

I have a motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

3:22:32

I have listed as co-prime sponsors, Commissioners Magazine, Bot and Dominguez.

3:22:36

Uh start roll call.

3:22:38

Commissioner Fernandez.

3:22:39

Yes.

3:22:40

Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas.

3:22:41

Yes, and I'd like to have Prime as well.

3:22:43

Give me one sec.

3:22:46

Yes, ma'am.

3:22:47

Commissioner Suarez.

3:22:48

Yes.

3:22:50

Yes.

3:22:51

Commissioner Bott.

3:22:52

Yes.

3:22:53

I heard a yes.

3:22:54

Uh Commissioner Magazine.

3:22:56

Yes.

3:22:56

Mayor Minor.

3:22:57

Yes.

3:22:58

Motion carries.

3:22:59

This was item R5D.

3:23:00

The item is approved.

3:23:02

Thank you, colleagues.

3:23:03

Thank you.

3:23:04

Commissioner Fernandez.

3:23:05

R5G.

3:23:13

R5G is an order to the mayor of City Commission of the City of Maya Beach Forum.

3:23:17

I mean chapter 14 of the code of the city of Miami Beach and titled Building Regulations by amending Article 1 in title in general by amending division two and title permit fees by amending section of 1465 thereof and title mechanical permits to limit the number of temporary tenants use permit renewals allowed for elevators and further amending appendix A to the city code and title fee scheduled to revise and increase fees charge for the temporary tenant use permit renewals for elevators and providing for repeat or servability qualification and an effective date.

3:23:42

This is a second reading public hearing.

3:23:44

It's item R5G.

3:23:45

Commissioner Dominguez.

3:23:47

Thank you.

3:23:47

This item was brought to me by public works because there were uh loopholes making infinite uh extensions and work not getting done.

3:23:55

I'll let uh public works director John Norris uh expand.

3:24:01

Good morning, John Norris, public works director.

3:24:04

This is a situation where there were uh temporary use for temporary use renewals being given over and over to elevators while they're in the process of being brought up to code essentially.

3:24:18

So what we're doing is taking this loophole away.

3:24:21

It will allow for up to three temporary use renewals.

3:24:27

The first one will be 162 dollars, and then after that, they'll increase to 2090 dollars.

3:24:34

That way we give them ample time to get whatever issues exist fixed to get their uh uh permanent uh certificate.

3:24:46

So I'll move the item.

3:24:52

This means a co-sponsor.

3:24:54

This is great policy, Commissioner.

3:24:59

Call the vote.

3:25:01

It is a public hearing.

3:25:03

I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience requesting to speak.

3:25:05

I have a motion by Commissioner Dominguez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez, co-sponsored by Commissioner Fernandez and Commissioner Magazine.

3:25:12

It is item R5G.

3:25:14

Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas.

3:25:16

Yes.

3:25:16

Commissioner Suarez is out.

3:25:21

Commissioner Magazine.

3:25:22

Yes.

3:25:23

Commissioner Fernandez.

3:25:24

Yes.

3:25:25

Commissioner Dominguez.

3:25:26

Yes.

3:25:26

Commissioner Bott.

3:25:27

Yes.

3:25:28

Mayor Minor.

3:25:29

Yes.

3:25:29

Motion carries the item is approved.

3:25:33

R5H.

3:25:40

R5H is an ordinance of the mayor of City Commission of the City of Maybe Beach Florida, amending chapter 70 of the code of City of Bay Beach and titled Miscellaneous Offenses by amending Article 2 and titled Public Places by Amending Division 2 and title Bicycling Skateboarding, Roller Skating, Line Skating, Motorized Means of Transportation, Electric Bicycling, Mopeds, Motorcycle, Motorwise Vehicles, and Motorized Scooters by creating section 70-73 to be entitled safe operation of personal delivery devices and mobile carriers to impose additional local safety requirements consistent with state law providing for repeater subability codification and effective date.

3:26:09

This is a second reading public hearing.

3:26:11

It is item R5H.

3:26:12

Commissioner Bott.

3:26:15

Yeah, so we are preempted by the state, which is ironic because this is the state that passed the home rule laws, and yet we are preempted.

3:26:24

Time again on doing what we think is right for our community, and we have these delivery robots where in some cases they are not causing a problem, but in many cases they are.

3:26:34

We have very old, very narrow sidewalks that have overgrown bushes and lots of different uses, and um people stop no one.

3:26:49

Um sorry, we're not supposed to have fun up here.

3:26:52

Um we have narrow sidewalks that were designed a hundred years ago plus that did not contemplate bicycles and um delivery robots and uh people with strollers and ADA mobility devices, and yet we are being forced to accept these onto our streets.

3:27:13

So this is um making the best of an unfortunate situation, and I'll let staff to come up and um talk about the the changes that we've made.

3:27:22

I don't know if Rob is here to last time.

3:27:26

Rick is is Rick is Rob available to Rob is right there.

3:27:31

Oh, yeah.

3:27:33

Somehow I can't see right in front of me today.

3:27:34

I'm blind as a bat.

3:27:36

Um but separate from this, and this was passed on consent was an item to do a survey of the sidewalks in our city to better understand um whether or not they pose an actual hazard in some places, and we will take that up separately when we have actual data points.

3:27:53

But um, and at that time I will come back with uh you know photographs of um standoffs and um tipped over machines and people trying to figure out which way to go and um you know near misses in traffic and actual collisions.

3:28:10

So um, but in the meanwhile, we're gonna try and make this as safe as we can for our pedestrians who should take precedence over corporate profit.

3:28:20

And um, with that, I'll turn it over to Rob.

3:28:23

Good morning, Commissioners Rob Rosenwald with the city attorney's office.

3:28:26

I'm sorry I got caught outside, so I didn't hear your introductory uh comments, so I'm sorry if I repeat any of them, but we are governed under state law uh as to how we can regulate these delivery robots.

3:28:37

They are allowed to operate on this sidewalks in the crosswalks.

3:28:41

There are state imposed rules about how they're operated, and we incorporate a lot of those into our ordinance, and even if we don't, they are required under state law.

3:28:50

Uh the breadth of what we are allowed to oper uh to regulate is safety regulations uh within the sphere of allowing them on all of our all of our side or on our sidewalks and on our streets.

3:29:06

Uh the original version of this, which still has uh many of the same provisions, uh required a permitting scheme, it requires uh safety devices to make them more visible, it regulates the speed of the devices uh and so forth.

3:29:25

On second reading, after uh Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez completed her term of service, and Commissioner Bott picked this up as a sponsor.

3:29:34

Uh she has added uh additional uh uh regulations which are allowed under the statute uh to include that they might they cannot uh display commercial advertisements, uh the speed was set at eight miles per hour.

3:29:52

Uh the time that they could remain stationary on the sidewalk was uh changed to 30 minutes, and let's see.

3:30:01

Uh and there is a new regulation that no uh robot may operate on any of the city's beachwalks or baywalks, and uh and there's a six-month grace period for the operators to come into compliance.

3:30:15

And excuse me just if I may jump in.

3:30:17

So the Baywalk and Beachwalk is actually a separate ordinance that will be heard next or whenever it's called.

3:30:24

Um and I believe the other change was may not exceed a speed of eight miles previously.

3:30:30

We had six miles miles per hour.

3:30:36

So I want to um thank Commissioner Magazine for bringing the item on the beachwalk um as a in case this gets hung up someplace, but it is in this uh language, so hopefully it's it's not gonna get hung up, so we'll just with your permission roll it in.

3:30:51

No pun intended, but roll it in together.

3:30:54

Within six mile per hour speed up correct.

3:30:58

And this is second reading, so you are your you're voted that this is the version to pass the actual uh resolu and ordinance if you chose to do so.

3:31:08

Commissioner Dominguez?

3:31:09

Um I have some questions.

3:31:10

I think we all received um an email from uh the organization uh served robotics.

3:31:18

So I just want to go through some of them because I have questions on it.

3:31:22

Okay.

3:31:22

Their first uh comment was that the per device fee was not reasonably related to our city's stated regulatory objectives.

3:31:31

The ordinance grounds its regulatory authority on public safety, predictability, visibility, and active monitoring, all of which are imposed on an operator level, not an individual device level.

3:31:43

And the fee structure should bear a national rational relationship to the government interest.

3:31:51

A pro uh per robot charge functions as a revenue mechanism rather than a safety-based regulatory tool.

3:31:59

So why is it per a robot as opposed to organization?

3:32:04

Well, that's a policy decision that you all can make.

3:32:07

Either scheme would be legally defensible.

3:32:10

A per robot scheme is rationally related to our ability to regulate and keep safe however many they send us.

3:32:20

And so if there are 10 bots, we might we have to do less enforcement.

3:32:24

If there are 150 bots, we have to do more, and it costs more.

3:32:29

Uh if you wanted to, you could charge a lot more than 100 per bot, or if you wanted to, you could charge by the organization.

3:32:37

There's there's a many different rational bases to uh reimburse the city for the cost of keeping these things safe.

3:32:46

This is the one that uh that was written into the that I wrote into the ordinance, and that I think is the most rational, but it's a policy decision that uh you can make.

3:32:59

The other comment was that the state has already determined that 10 miles per hour is the safe standard, and Florida law explicitly allows personal delivery devices to operate at a speed of up to 10 miles per hour.

3:33:15

We are allowed to regulate the safety of the uh bots.

3:33:21

There's nothing that says that we can't set our own speed, and we have at least this legislation proposes to have a slightly lower uh speed limit.

3:33:32

I will say that the original first reading version was six miles per hour.

3:33:36

Uh and after speaking with uh serve robotics, it was raised at their request to eight, and they said my understanding was that that was their suggestion, and they were but that was just I'm sorry to interrupt, but that was um eight to cross the street, not on the sidewalks.

3:33:55

Uh that I think it was just generally.

3:34:00

Okay, I uh I was under the impression it was eight to get across the streets so that they weren't gonna be um potentially hit by a car, which would be unsafe for everybody.

3:34:11

I'm not super in favor of of raising it, and I definitely don't want to go up to ten anywhere because I don't know if anyone's ever been hit by a bike going ten miles an hour or anything else, but feels pretty lousy.

3:34:22

So, you know, these this is a commercial enterprise.

3:34:26

Um I have no concerns that they are gonna make a lot of money and good on them.

3:34:30

Like that's great.

3:34:31

I have no problem with with companies making money, but um they also have to pay for the the cost of doing business and um a per unit cost of doing business is a viable way to to manage this, as Rob pointed out.

3:34:45

The more units there are, the more issues we're gonna have.

3:34:48

Um, you know, when back in the day when there are taxis, regular old yellow taxis, each taxi cab had a medallion.

3:34:56

And so, you know, that's just how things work.

3:35:00

I I got a question, Mr.

3:35:02

Mayor.

3:35:02

Are they online to talk more about what they emailed us?

3:35:07

Yes, uh, we have one rep.

3:35:10

Can I just ask a follow-up?

3:35:12

Commissioner Suarez.

3:35:12

I just want to ask a follow-up.

3:35:13

So is it eight miles per hour crossing a street, or is it eight miles per hour?

3:35:17

The the ordinance as written and would be passed on second reading is eight miles per hour, period in the crosswalks and on the sidewalk.

3:35:25

Okay, because I share Commissioner Dominguez's concern if they're in the middle of the street and they can't get out in time, because I know I personally know that some of our crosswalks are not functioning properly and the timing is not adequate.

3:35:38

There may not be enough time to cross certain roads.

3:35:42

Um, and I certainly don't want to see an accident from one of these delivery robots getting going too slow.

3:35:49

This the speeds, uh, if you wanted to have a different speed limit for the crosswalks and the streets, you could certainly do that right here today.

3:35:56

Uh and if you wanted to make it six miles an hour on the sidewalks and eight in the crosswalks, or eight on the streets and ten on the uh sidewalks or something different.

3:36:07

Uh you could do that the way it is written, is it's uniform eight miles everywhere.

3:36:13

And so let's say these one of these robots do hit a pedestrian who's liable.

3:36:20

I mean, uh is the city in any of which way possible liable if there is an accident because we passed either eight miles per hour, ten miles per hour, six, I think with no, as long as we have a rational basis for the choice that we made, and I think that we have a very legally defensible record.

3:36:39

And apparently the state has made that decision that 10 miles per hour is.

3:36:43

Okay, so if we if we go a little bit below that, then we should be right covered.

3:36:49

There is no real and anybody can sue us for anything, and we get sued all the time for things that aren't really realistic, but we don't have any actual liability for something just because we regulate it.

3:37:00

It's this would be just like if you got hit by a taxi cab or an Uber or any other uh delivery mechanism.

3:37:08

Yeah, but here this is a little different because we're setting a speed limit on a sidewalk.

3:37:13

So right, you know, it's it's not like it's not like the state where they have or the county that's at certain speed limits.

3:37:20

Um but I get okay, cool.

3:37:22

Right.

3:37:22

I'm okay with eight.

3:37:25

It's whatever you guys want, so you let me know and we'll and the speed limit doesn't apply to a bicycle or an e-scooter, they can do whatever they want where these robots are more regulated, they have cameras, they stop uh for pedestrians.

3:37:38

Is it public comment?

3:37:40

Can we hear from the operator?

3:37:41

Well, before we do that, if I may, Commissioner Bott.

3:37:45

So um I agree, Commissioner Dominguez, it's very frustrating that we don't currently have a mechanism to regulate e-devices and bicycle speeds.

3:37:53

It is something that I've spent the last two years working on.

3:37:55

We're finally seeing some movement in Tallahassee.

3:37:57

Uh, we're working with our um County Commissioner Lopez, and and hopefully soon that will become something that we can manage better as well because we have seen talk to any of the police officers here, talk to Julio Blanco who was hit by an offending um uh e-biker and was you know broke his elbow.

3:38:16

Um I have friends who are emergency room doctors, and if they could share the photographs without violating HIPAA, it would curl all of our hair.

3:38:23

It is really dangerous, it isn't being addressed at the state or federal level yet, and that needs to happen.

3:38:31

That being said, that doesn't mean that we should just uh accept a willy-nilly approach to yet another impediment for pedestrians work walking on the sidewalks.

3:38:42

Um I would be very happy to amend this here on the dais to um 10 miles an hour to get across uh crosswalks to get them out of the lane of traffic, and six miles an hour on sidewalks to ensure there are no or to try to ensure there are no accidents with people minding their own business walking where people are supposed to walk.

3:39:02

Call the vote.

3:39:03

It is a public hearing.

3:39:04

Yeah, let's I want to hear from the that is a public hearing.

3:39:08

Is there anyone in the audience requesting to speak on this item?

3:39:10

Seeing none, we're gonna go to Zoom.

3:39:12

The first speaker is Yadiel Diaz from Serve Robotics.

3:39:20

Good morning.

3:39:21

Uh my name is Yariel Diaz with Serb Robotics, located at 730 Broadway Street, Redwood City, California, speaking on R5H.

3:39:29

I appreciate the city's work on this item.

3:39:31

We also share the same goals of keeping the sidewalk safe, accessible, and comfortable for everyone while allowing for this new technology to operate responsibly.

3:39:40

At CERV, we work with our delivery partners, Uber Eats and Doordash to provide robot deliveries for small restaurants within Miami Beach.

3:39:47

As of today, February 5th, we deliver for over 161 restaurants in Miami Beach.

3:39:53

So I just wanted to make sure to get that on the record.

3:39:56

Uh, with that shared goal in mind, we have a few suggestions as were shared in an email last night.

3:40:02

First, on the per robot permit fee.

3:40:05

We operate whether we operate 20 robots or we operate 30 robots or we operate five robots.

3:40:11

I've heard arguments about the enforcement cost for the city to be more or to be less, which is why in the initial first reading item, we suggested a uh per organization fee, but obviously much larger than what a presumably per robot fee of 20 robots would be, which would entail um not having to switch back and forth between what you are charging for operators uh per robot.

3:40:38

On the eight-mile cap, the amendment that was made by Commissioner Bop is acceptable to us.

3:40:44

We really appreciate uh the consideration of the commissioners on that crosswalk speed.

3:40:50

That's honestly one of the biggest concerns we have because uh lowering the crosswalk speed may actually limit the robots' ability to safely cross very busy intersections, especially since they're not not time the same.

3:41:02

The one thing that hasn't been brought up yet is the uh that was brought up by Rob but hasn't been brought up yet is the ban on advertising.

3:41:09

Uh we feel that a total ban raises fairness and constitutional concerns on First Amendment grounds.

3:41:15

There may be more targeted and content neutral ways to address this.

3:41:18

Some other cities like um Chicago have put in place a review period for advertising that makes sure that there's no obscene or pornographic items as part of what is intended to be reviewed and added to these robots for advertising versus a flat out ban.

3:41:36

So we believe that small adjustments would help the ordinance to better achieve its goals.

3:41:40

We support the ordinance.

3:41:41

We think uh most of it is common sense.

3:41:44

And I'll be on also to answer any questions.

3:41:46

I thank you for your time and you'll continue to work to improve our communities.

3:41:50

Our next public speaker is Carl Hansen.

3:42:00

Thank you.

3:42:02

Um I'm uh Carl Hansen.

3:42:04

I had government and community relations for Cocoa, the the pink sidewalk delivery robots uh out in Miami Beach as well.

3:42:11

Um we we also uh strongly support the uh 10 mile per hour, six mile per hour split um as as served just um suggested and think that's uh uh a good balance for for the lower speeds on the sidewalks and and and the speed necessary to get um across uh the the crosswalks.

3:42:32

Um we the I think main point of concern we have here is with the advertising prohibition.

3:42:38

Um this wasn't part of the initial discussion and uh kind of came in here at the end.

3:42:43

Um we absolutely support the city exploring and discussing what would go into um regulating advertising on personal delivery robots.

3:42:52

Um, but we we we think it merits more time and and would really appreciate if that was like pulled for a separate discussion so that we could meet um and talk, talk through the advantages of this.

3:43:02

Similar to um bike share programs and buses, uh operating these devices out in public is very expensive.

3:43:10

The ads help us keep prices low for local business.

3:43:13

Um if we're hit with new fees to operate and lose the ability to subsidize the cost of delivery uh from the advertising, that's gonna be very hard on our merchants, very hard on our customers.

3:43:24

Um, our goal is to help get cars uh off the street, help reduce the parking impact.

3:43:30

We absolutely want to do that safely.

3:43:32

Um we think it's smart to have rules in this space, and we uh look forward to working with you on this.

3:43:37

Um, but would hope we would have some time to discuss an advertising policy that made sense for all parties.

3:43:43

We really appreciate your time and thank you again.

3:43:46

Thank you.

3:43:46

Next caller is Johan Moore.

3:43:50

Please go ahead.

3:43:54

Good afternoon.

3:43:56

Uh I'll speak as as John Q pedestrian here with a couple of observations.

3:44:02

Um, first, I will uh swear that I saw uh one of the robots dash across an intersection on the crosswalk while the light was red.

3:44:14

Uh the other uh concern from the community is that where corner curb cuts are at too steep an angle.

3:44:23

I have witnessed a robot uh stop sufficiently far back from the intersection so that it could see the crosswalk light, but in that position, it blocked the sidewalk.

3:44:38

Uh anyone with a wheelchair, I caution the city about an ADA compliance uh lawsuit.

3:44:44

Uh I've said some of this before.

3:44:46

Uh, please keep that in mind.

3:44:48

Uh, an elderly person, someone using a cane, uh, someone with a schlepper with groceries or uh laundry in it, uh, someone with a baby carriage.

3:44:58

Uh, it starts to get a little difficult.

3:45:00

And I wonder if the commission can give some thought to how to address that.

3:45:04

Either simply by making all the crosswalk lights automatic again, as I believe they all were during the pandemic, or more complicatedly, uh, for the delivery robot uh developers to add a garage door opener like feature uh to enable the robots to in fact request uh a crosswalk light uh so that they can cross.

3:45:27

I would submit a possible metric to you uh to compare accident rates of delivery bikes, let alone motorized delivery bikes and robots.

3:45:38

And I have to say that I suspect that the robots might be safer, but the the speed limit is key.

3:45:45

Thank you very much.

3:45:47

Thank you.

3:45:47

Our next caller is Bruce.

3:45:49

Bruce, please state your name.

3:45:51

Unmute yourself.

3:45:54

Hi, Bruce People.

3:45:56

I'm a pedestrian also.

3:45:58

And I'll point out that we walk typically a mile in 20 minutes.

3:46:02

You do the math that's three miles an hour.

3:46:06

We've never had a problem crossing the street, even Fifth Street.

3:46:10

There are people older who walk a lot slower.

3:46:12

So do you hear people need eight or ten miles per hour for a robot?

3:46:16

When pedestrians do three miles an hour or slower if we're not running across the street.

3:46:21

I that number is off the wall crazy if you think about it.

3:46:24

That's all I have to add.

3:46:25

Thank you, sir.

3:46:26

Thank you.

3:46:27

Next caller uh is called in user seven.

3:46:30

State your name, please.

3:46:37

Hi, uh good afternoon, mayor and commissioners.

3:46:39

My name is Matthew Golpanoff, and I want to thank the sponsors and those who work on this piece of legislation uh because speed regulation is sound policy, and I'm supportive of those aspects.

3:46:53

Uh on my beach, the sidewalks are varying width.

3:46:57

They're from relative relatively wide eight feet to in some places under three under three feet.

3:47:04

And my beach is an urban area.

3:47:07

Crossing the street, uh, I agree with some of the other people here that sometimes these bots have issues.

3:47:13

And once I was even walking with my daughters on Elton Road, and it had a message asking to please push the button for the bot.

3:47:21

I didn't see it, but my daughter mightn't push it for it, and then it said thank you, which I thought was kind of cute, but it highlights the issue of accessibility.

3:47:29

Lastly, I want to clarify that the city does have the ability to regulate speeds of bicycles, e-bikes, and micro mobility on pathways, such as the beachwalk.

3:47:38

And it's a best practice and one of the tools available to keep people safe, to keep everyone safe on those pathways.

3:47:44

And it's a policy that should be considered now to manage safe access for everyone.

3:47:50

Thank you so much.

3:47:51

Thank you.

3:47:51

Our next caller is Wayne.

3:47:53

Wayne, please state your name.

3:47:57

Hi, this is Wayne Sutpafift.

3:47:59

Um, I have no issue with the technology except that as a society, we should make it harder for these companies to uh take over jobs for like Uber drivers and delivery services because ultimately homeless populations will increase as a result because jobs that are for uh that level of education and and immigrants will disappear.

3:48:30

Um I'm sad for the society, but you know, technology will move forward without us or with us, and we can't be uh we can't be a wall against it.

3:48:41

Thank you.

3:48:42

Thank you.

3:48:42

There are no other requests to speak.

3:48:47

I need a motion.

3:48:48

I'll move it.

3:48:50

As amended.

3:48:51

Second.

3:48:52

Yeah, please.

3:48:53

It was pretty quick.

3:48:54

I I'm sorry.

3:48:55

Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.

3:48:56

No worries.

3:48:57

I wasn't prepared to speak.

3:48:58

But um your name, please.

3:48:59

Uh Kevin Kruger, uh, nine-year Miami Beach resident, and I just figured I'd add to some of what uh what I heard on on Zoom, which I appreciate.

3:49:08

But it's a sidewalk, not a side roll.

3:49:11

And if I understand bicycles and others are not permitted, we kind of use them.

3:49:17

But uh, I'm a people person, so resounding some of those uh sentiments.

3:49:22

I'd rather see pedestrians um out there instead of robots.

3:49:28

You know, technology is great, but I do believe that it is taking away jobs and giving it to corporations and other states.

3:49:34

Um the public safety is an elected officials first foremost role, and then usually it's job creation, the economy's stupid, etc.

3:49:44

etc.

3:49:44

And I do feel like we're losing jobs for those that uh might be uh need the flexible delivery jobs or maybe it's entry level and now they can afford their rent, but we're giving away to robots that are uh nameless, faceless in spite of the cute names and smiley faces and advertising that go on it.

3:50:04

So those are just a couple of points as a uh pedestrian myself.

3:50:09

I find it incredibly annoying.

3:50:12

Um, I I don't know, I probably I don't have all the macroeconomics or the legalities of it, but I feel like it's a little Orwellian.

3:50:22

I'd like to see us do the right thing for our beautiful beach town.

3:50:29

Commissioner Bott mentioned some a lot of this about where preemptive, so we're trying to work within the framework that we have.

3:50:34

Oh, sorry.

3:50:35

I was gonna say exactly that.

3:50:36

Uh, Kevin, I wholeheartedly agree with you.

3:50:38

I I don't personally particularly like these uh whatsoever.

3:50:43

I do think that they unnecessarily clogged our sidewalks, but we are preempted by the state, so we're trying to put some uh guardrails around here.

3:50:51

So we have a motion as second.

3:50:54

We have a second.

3:51:04

Commissioner Bott.

3:51:06

Yes.

3:51:06

Commissioner Dominguez.

3:51:08

Yes.

3:51:08

Commissioner Suarez, yes.

3:51:10

Commissioner Magazine.

3:51:10

Yes.

3:51:12

Yes.

3:51:13

Vice Mayor Matasolinas.

3:51:15

Yes.

3:51:15

Mayor Minor.

3:51:16

Yes.

3:51:19

That was item R five Het Take a break for lunch.

3:51:23

I see a lot of nods.

3:51:24

Uh, let's reconvene at one fifteen and we'll start with the Sutnik time.

4:55:04

Please take your seats.

4:55:05

The meeting is about to begin.

4:55:07

Remember to speak into the microphone as this meeting is being recorded for public record.

4:55:15

Please stand by.

4:55:15

We are going on air.

4:55:21

We'll listen to a paper.

4:55:27

Welcome back to our afternoon session of our commission meeting.

4:55:30

We'll begin with the uh open forum if anyone wants to be heard.

4:55:35

Ralph, take it away.

4:55:36

Yes, sir.

4:55:37

Anyone who wishes to speak, please approach the podium.

4:55:41

Again, if anyone wishes to speak, please approach the podium.

4:55:45

Seeing nobody on the podium, I'm gonna go the state your name.

4:55:54

Glenn Hall.

4:55:57

Uh 5748 Ponchy Drive, President of LaGuis Pine Tree HOA, also chair, still chair of the Miami Beach Black Affairs Advisory.

4:56:08

I think Commissioner Bott has some proclamation, but I wanted to just to say Happy Black History Month.

4:56:19

You can clap everybody.

4:56:22

Bring some joy to this every morning.

4:56:27

So of course, every year we like to highlight that to reaffirm the city's commitment to that.

4:56:32

Um also too, we like to highlight all of the events that are being put on by the city.

4:56:38

Um we have the Soundskate Symbol Series, we have the Seoul Beach Food Festival that's coming up this Saturday, Black History Night celebration on the February 3rd, 15th, sorry, that we're gonna be honoring Officer Art Martineau, um, who was you know a very great man and untouched families and children all over the city.

4:57:07

So um that's gonna be a big deal there.

4:57:10

And if you haven't gone, it's just amazing, amazing event for all families, and you get to see a lot of the culture, especially the Bahaman culture that have the Joncanu bands and everything else, and it's magnificent.

4:57:20

And also we have um that we started last year, the Miami Beach Botanical Garden Groove, which is an also amazing event um that uh basically highlights another genre of black culture of house music, which is which is fantastic.

4:57:35

And as you know, um the black culture and black you know vibe on Miami Beach is 365 247.

4:57:42

So it's uh that's not just for February, so of course we've already had the um South Beast Jazz Fest in January, um Martin Luther King Day, the Art Duck Co weekend events, 5,000 role models that a lot of you guys attended, and also the ABFF is coming, Black Business Month in August.

4:58:01

Thank you, Mr.

4:58:02

Hall.

4:58:02

We have annual love is love, etc.

4:58:05

etc.

4:58:05

etc.

4:58:05

So continue.

4:58:08

So yeah, thank you for cheating that up so nicely.

4:58:10

I'm sorry.

4:58:10

Um I just wanted to make sure that um in case somehow you're under a rock that um which I don't think anybody else anybody is here, um, but that our um we are as a city acknowledging and celebrating our collective shared black history.

4:58:25

Um we are a city that has had a very complicated genesis of being radically anti-Semitic and um racist for many many years, and over the last 40 years, I think we have made great strides to overcome that and not without some bumps in the road, but definitely um with a uh purposeful mission to make this a welcoming, inclusive, open-minded place for everybody.

4:58:49

And so um whereas Black History Month is observed nationally each February to honor the achievements, resilience, and cultural contributions of Black Americans throughout our nation's history, and this national this annual observation began in 1926 through the efforts of Dr.

4:59:03

Carter G.

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Woodson.

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It's grown into a month-long celebration, many of the celebration celebratory um events you heard Glenn articulate of the pivotal role the black Americans have played in shaping the United States, and the city of Miami Beach recognizes that the stories and accomplishments of black leaders, innovators, and everyday citizens have enriched our community and advanced the cause of justice equal and equality, and we'll continue to do so.

4:59:29

Progress has been made.

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And if you don't know where to find all these great events, you can go to the city's Facebook page.

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There are numerous wonderful events throughout the month and throughout the city.

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And so therefore be it be duly resolved by the mayor and the city commission of the city of Miami Beach, Florida, that the Mayor and City Commission hereby commemorate February 2026 as National Black History Month and reaffirm the city's commitment to promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion.

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And so the reason why it was important to do this today formally was because last year, because of scheduling SNAFUs, we couldn't recognize formally.

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We had all the programming and it was amazing, but we couldn't formally recognize that February was the um was our uh commemoration of Black History Month until the middle or end of March, I think.

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So I wanted to make sure we got it on the record so everybody knows.

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So thank you, colleagues.

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Thank you, Glenn.

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And thank you to the Black Affairs Advisory Committee.

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You're welcome.

5:01:09

Thank you, Glenn.

5:01:10

And I can I can actually say that Glenn shortly before I got up to give my remarks at the state of the city uh mentioned, hey, maybe you can mention Black History Month, so I made it, I made an on-the-fly uh change to the speed.

5:01:21

Yeah, to the point.

5:01:22

I think I gave you the point out.

5:01:25

Thanks for all you do for our is there anyone else in the audience?

5:01:32

Good afternoon.

5:01:33

My name is Francisca Medina.

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I'm a Miami Beach uh resident, and I would like to implore you to extend the lease of the current home of the Miami Design and Preservation League.

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Uh it's uh in my opinion, it's uh integral what the preservation league uh does in regards to tours, education, also uh preservation, uh which is known for worldwide worldwide.

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And uh it's also a magnet, you see that every day tourists uh that come, of course, to Ocean Drive, they flock to the welcome center.

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And uh we have right now, fortunately, I'm a volunteer tour guide.

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We have uh an average of 60 uh tour guide guests, and uh the the interest in uh in and in this is is big, and I would uh yeah, also ask that you that moving towards the future that there's more education about that in our city because the more students, residents know about the this history, uh the better it is, the more they've uh associate uh uh with that.

5:03:06

So uh with that maybe uh historic preservation month is uh possible in the future, but in the meantime, please leave the home of the Miami Design and Preservation League where it is and where it does so much good for all of us uh and for our image.

5:03:28

Thank you so much.

5:03:29

Thank you, thank you for your uh seeing no one else requesting to speak.

5:03:34

I'm gonna go to Zoom.

5:03:35

Karen, please go ahead.

5:03:40

Thank you very much.

5:03:41

Can you hear me now?

5:03:42

Yes.

5:03:43

Okay, thank you.

5:03:44

I'm Karen Rukis.

5:03:45

I'm the treasurer at Lennox Towers at 1039th Street.

5:03:50

I am um speaking to today regarding Commissioner Fernandez's proposal to allocate the 11.8 million surplus, which could be more by now, exclusively to homesteaders and tenant relief.

5:04:03

Both homesteaders and non-homesteaders contribute financially to the municipal tax fund, whereas tenants do not directly contribute to this revenue stream at all.

5:04:13

Commissioner Fernandez has stated his intention to return the surplus to the community in a fair way.

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In the interest of fairness, it is essential that each taxpayer receives a reimbursement proportional to their individual contributions.

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So, for example, if a taxpayer is paid $2,500 a year, they should receive half the reimbursement of a taxpayer who contributes 5,000 a year.

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In summary, refunds should be distributed solely to those who've contributed to the fund with amounts reflecting their respective contributions.

5:04:46

It should also be noted that non-homesteaders typically contribute three times as much as homesteaders in their taxes.

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And when things are left empty at your building, it helps the homesteaders save money because no one's spending the water, the gas, the electricity, wear and tear in the elevator, the wear and tear in the laundry machines, et cetera.

5:05:29

So in closing, I would just like to say that I I'd like the council to reconsider their position on this refund, or even perhaps uh distributing the refund in a way that back to the community that everyone could enjoy.

5:05:46

Thank you.

5:05:47

Our next caller is Wayne.

5:05:49

Wayne, please unmute yourself.

5:05:52

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

5:05:54

Um I just want to state from the earlier session that one minute is, you know, it makes the the caller um or the person in the room feel uncomfortable speaking because they're rushed.

5:06:08

And uh I would say that I get more out of the discussion from the residents than I do from most of the conversation of the dais.

5:06:17

And I've listened to every meeting in the last uh five years.

5:06:23

Um so I I hope you change that policy, please.

5:06:27

Um additionally, um uh I want to talk about Black History Month because I firmly believe in affirmative action and uh equality.

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And uh since the 60s, we've made great strides in reducing poverty among uh and lack of education among the the African American community.

5:06:47

And policies of the last couple of years have changed that.

5:06:51

And and that gap is gonna widen further uh rather than shrink because of policy.

5:06:58

Uh lastly, I want to talk about uh the policy that we're about to put in place from what I'm understanding that like it's almost a done deal, and I cannot believe it is to extend um Washington Avenue and Lincoln Road to 150 to 200 feet in height, uh like a wall.

5:07:18

Um that uh the landowners want that and they've they've left places vacant and unkept because they want to force the issue on the city.

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And that's been a policy of theirs for a decade or more.

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And instead of uh enticing them with 200-foot buildings, we should be enticing them with incentives to update their existing structures and to and to fill those those vacant storefronts.

5:07:45

And what this is gonna do is it's gonna it's gonna remove every business in Miami Beach from those districts because they won't renew their leases because they're gonna tear it down.

5:07:57

And it's gonna create a ghetto situation in the center of our city with walls, 200 feet hall, high, high, which is gonna damage the city irreparably forever.

5:08:10

I wish that I hope that you vote no on this and think about it more effectively.

5:08:15

Thank you.

5:08:16

All right, our next caller.

5:08:18

Next caller is Sharon.

5:08:23

Hi, Sharon Weiss, 233 81st Street.

5:08:26

Uh, I'm calling uh again for two items, R75.

5:08:31

Um I'm in support of um having a committee to address the water issue.

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Um I know I spoke about it this morning.

5:08:39

Uh the condition of our waterways is deplorable and uh something needs to be done.

5:08:44

I certainly hope that this committee will have teeth to actually make something happen instead of a bunch of people sitting around blobiating and uh listening for themselves talk.

5:08:54

The next item I wanted to talk about is C4N.

5:08:57

I realize that was on the consent agenda.

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I may have missed uh missed that, uh, but it's the mascot for the city, and I would like to respectfully suggest as the mascot to be a poop moji.

5:09:09

That would be accurate.

5:09:10

Thank you.

5:09:13

Our next call.

5:09:14

Next caller is Johan Moore.

5:09:18

Uh much thanks to Wayne Roberts, um, but I will reserve my comments on uh items R5B and R5C for when you finally call it.

5:09:29

Um I believe that any return of excess tax money to individual residents slash taxpayers can only be regressive, but I'll only say that no matter how you choose to direct it, you would best direct it toward the most vulnerable.

5:09:47

My support for renewing MDPL's lease.

5:10:00

And I will make the economic argument that tourists who are inexorably drawn only uh to Ocean Drive who come upon it are through its tours and its information sluiced back generally in a respectful manner, given that they're there then to see the architecture toward Washington Avenue, into our neighborhood, and even on into the less touristed uh establishments of a commercial nature on Alton Road and West Avenue.

5:10:26

Thank you.

5:10:27

Thank you.

5:10:28

Our next caller is Inez.

5:10:30

Inez, please go ahead, state your name.

5:10:37

Okay.

5:10:38

Hello, yes.

5:10:39

My name is Inez Flax.

5:10:40

You all hear me?

5:10:41

Yes, go ahead, please.

5:10:43

Okay.

5:10:44

Uh I just want to follow up on some of the discussion this morning about demonizing groups, demonizing, you know, people for their ethnicity or background.

5:10:56

That I like everybody to also include our ICE agents.

5:11:01

They are law enforcement and they're being demonized, and that needs to stop.

5:11:06

Demonizing Republican, demonizing Trump, all of it needs to stop.

5:11:12

We need to be a civil society, and we can all have civil discussions.

5:11:18

And we just need to emphasize to all uh at you know civilly towards each other.

5:11:25

We respect and and that um and uh there's room for everybody, as long as there is respect.

5:11:34

So respect for everyone.

5:11:35

Thank you for all your service and for your all your work that you do for the community.

5:11:43

Thank you.

5:11:44

Mayor that concludes the subject.

5:11:46

Mr.

5:11:46

Mayor.

5:11:47

Commissioner Fernandez.

5:11:48

I just want the record to reflect that.

5:11:51

I don't know which Inez just spoke, but if it's the one who I think it is, is someone who has written on social media calling Democrats demon rats.

5:12:01

And when we're talking about not demonizing people, it's across the board.

5:12:06

And so we need to acknowledge it at all fronts.

5:12:08

And so since she brought up specifically the word demon, I found it interesting giving the term that's been used.

5:12:16

So that's why Commissioner uh Vice Mayor Mateo Salinas said she doesn't go on Facebook, so she doesn't get to see these uh these things.

5:12:24

Um is that any other callers?

5:12:27

No concludes.

5:12:29

Let's call uh R5J.

5:12:41

R5J is an ordinance of the mayor of City Commission of City by Beach, Florida, amending chapter 70 of the code of City of Maybe Beach, Florida and titled Miscellaneous Offenses by Amending Article 1 entitled In General by Creating Section 70-1.2 thereof, and titled evidencing prejudice while committing offense minimum penalty to establish a minimum mandatory penalty for persons who while committing a criminal municipal ordinance violation, evidence prejudice based upon the race, color, ancestry, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, national origin, homeless status, or advanced age of the victim, and providing for repealer servability codification and effectively this is a second reading public hearing.

5:13:16

It is item R5J.

5:13:18

Yes, the second reading.

5:13:18

Thank you to my co-sponsors, Commissioner Bott and Commissioner Magazine.

5:13:22

What this does is takes our municipal offenses, and if there is a hate crime involved, as our city clerk just read, um, then there's a um minimum of a 30-day uh sentence, a jail sentence.

5:13:38

This is consistent with state law.

5:13:40

Um didn't move the item since I can't.

5:13:42

I'll move it.

5:13:43

I'll second.

5:13:45

Call the vote.

5:13:46

Hold on for a second.

5:13:47

It is a public hearing, and I have Johan Moore requesting to speak.

5:13:51

I'm gonna speak.

5:14:03

And I'm going to be totally even-handed.

5:14:05

No one should be beat up in public because they're a Zionist, no one should be beat up in public or in private because they're an anarchist or because they're a socialist.

5:14:13

Is that not a glaring uh uh lacuna in this otherwise uh I think well-intentioned uh uh uh item, despite uh associations it might unfortunately have with its sponsor?

5:14:25

Thank you.

5:14:26

Thank you.

5:14:27

There's no one else in Zoom.

5:14:28

Can I speak?

5:14:29

Go ahead, ma'am.

5:14:32

Hi, uh one to Jamie and I uh this item can someone specify it exactly what is sustain.

5:14:39

I don't understand that.

5:14:43

What are you voting on?

5:14:46

Anybody knows?

5:14:48

What's the question?

5:14:49

R50, R5J.

5:14:51

What is it exactly?

5:14:53

What are you voting on?

5:14:55

Roughly sure.

5:15:00

This is a hate crime ordinance, uh, which is adopted same same language as the state law.

5:15:08

And what it does is it provides for a minimum sentence of 30 days in jail unless the judge determines that it's not in the best interest of the community when a crime is motivated by hate based on the specified characteristics in the ordinance, which include um race, political affiliation, religion, um, and so on.

5:15:30

Okay, so you're voting on something that's general.

5:15:34

So if somebody calls me a crippled lady, uh I could press charges.

5:15:41

Um I'm gonna ask Mark Fishman to come up because he was the one who worked on the ordinance.

5:15:50

Good afternoon, everybody, thank you.

5:15:52

Uh well, I guess to to respond to that question, uh no, just calling someone, you know, albeit you know very unkind, a crippled uh lady or crippled old lady, uh while unkind would not be a crime or a criminal offense in and of itself, so there would be no criminal charge, and if there's no criminal charge, you couldn't have it charged as a hate crime under here where the minimum 30 days that the city attorney spoke of would be applicable because again there's no arrest and no charge because no crime was committed.

5:16:18

If somebody calls me a black woman, I'm an Afro-American, would that apply?

5:16:22

No.

5:16:24

Well, if there's a crime being committed separate and apart from being called up.

5:16:28

So if somebody beats you up and says, Yes, you're a black woman, so I am gonna beat you up, then yes, this ordinance would apply.

5:16:38

But it has to, the name has to come out.

5:16:41

So if I call some, I say something to someone, we have division here regarding religions and stuff and so on.

5:16:49

If I have the uh do I have to wait, I'm talking to him, he's allowing me to talk.

5:16:56

Thank you.

5:17:00

I just want to get this straight because I think it should be equal.

5:17:06

Is this a time up?

5:17:09

I mean, he's telling me something, you guys are listening.

5:17:12

What which is like the right answer.

5:17:16

Go ahead with what you want to say, Wanda.

5:17:18

Okay.

5:17:19

I just want to this is a very sensitive item, okay?

5:17:24

So we're going through very hard times Miami Beach with divisions for a number of reasons.

5:17:36

I just want to make it, I just want to make myself clear what is the ordinance.

5:17:41

Is it calling somebody a Muslim?

5:17:43

Is it calling some me a Catholic?

5:17:46

If somebody says you're a Catholic, ugly Catholic, would that consider be a hate crime?

5:17:52

Is somebody calls somebody uh uh terrorist Muslim or a Jew?

5:17:59

I I want to know what it is that we that you're voting on because it's supposed to be equal to everybody, every religion, every color, every woman, every disabled, every everything.

5:18:10

Let me claim it is it is equal, and actually there's there's a number of categories listed here.

5:18:15

There has to be a crime committed.

5:18:16

There are statutes of crimes.

5:18:18

Mark Fishman gave an example, something be beat up.

5:18:21

There it has to be the commission of a crime.

5:18:23

If if then the court determines that that crime was motivated by hate, it can be a number of ways they determine that.

5:18:29

Sometimes it is saying the some of the terminology used.

5:18:33

Sometimes there are other ways.

5:18:34

Maybe they find something on on their persons or what have you.

5:18:37

But if their crime was motivated by hate, that's when this statute kicks in.

5:18:42

It's similar to the state.

5:18:44

The problem is here, we had an absence.

5:18:46

We have our own municipal offenses that are unique to Miami Beach.

5:18:49

They're similar to state offenses, but there are offenses.

5:18:51

And we didn't have anything that had a penalty if the crime was committed by hate.

5:18:56

So we're doing something that's very that's that's already in the statutes in the state, but we couldn't do it because we didn't have that ability.

5:19:03

All we're doing is now cleaning up our statutes and saying if you commit a crime and the court can prove that it was motivated by hate, that's when the mandatory jail sentence come in.

5:19:12

And there's a number of categories included in here that really covers everybody.

5:19:16

Thank you.

5:19:17

You're welcome.

5:19:18

Thank you.

5:19:19

Could I just say something semi-related, Mr.

5:19:21

Mayor?

5:19:21

Um, and it goes to what uh uh Commissioner uh Monica said, Mateo Salinas.

5:19:27

Uh I'd like Commissioner Monica.

5:19:29

Um Vice Mayor Monica.

5:19:32

And one of what you said, you know, Miami Beach going through tough times.

5:19:35

Um I often feel as if there's two different worlds.

5:19:40

There's the real world and the social media world.

5:19:42

And you tune into this social media, and it is toxic.

5:19:47

It really is.

5:19:48

And in fact, I've tried tuning it out as much as possible without uh being sure that I you know don't uh avoid anything that's necessary, especially for the job.

5:20:00

But when I go, if I wasn't here, I'd be getting ready to go pick my daughter up from school in two hours.

5:20:05

And it is this beautiful community of parents of all race, color, uh, gay parents, uh everything.

5:20:14

And it is a beautiful community.

5:20:17

Truly.

5:20:18

People respect each other, love each other.

5:20:22

When I go to the supermarket, I talk to friends, I talk to strangers, and what's so unique about Miami Beach is very few of us have to live here, right?

5:20:33

We choose to live here.

5:20:35

And there's so much toxicity that's brought online.

5:20:40

Not giving life advice up here, but it it's sometimes intentionally designed to do so.

5:20:46

And if you let it you keep feeding into it, it's going to change the way you think and the way you even perceive this beautiful place which we live.

5:20:55

When if you take your face out of the phone, we're all up here because we want to impact change and make our city better, but we live in a pretty pretty special place, a pretty amazing place.

5:21:08

That doesn't mean there's not so much work to be done.

5:21:11

But if you don't buy into the social media, I have friends and community members of every single religion and race and color and belief and and sex.

5:21:26

We live in an amazing place, and while there's plenty of work to be done, um I I wouldn't agree with there's so much hatred and division.

5:21:36

There's one offs that get amplified, but there's the social media world, and then there's the real world that we all live in when you go out there.

5:21:44

I just encourage people to really dissect what's real and what's being fabricated online.

5:21:51

So thank you, Wanda.

5:21:52

And you'll always have an open door with me.

5:21:54

Thank you.

5:21:54

Thank you, Commissioner Magazine.

5:21:56

That was wow.

5:21:57

That was beautifully said.

5:21:58

I I share the sentiment.

5:21:59

I think we all do.

5:22:01

I, you know, I try to reach out to every single one of you at some point to speak.

5:22:05

Um, no not mentioning names, but some people refuse to answer me.

5:22:10

Some people deliberately black me.

5:22:16

I know that's an ethics violation.

5:22:18

I want to I want to do the best I could.

5:22:20

I love Miami Beach.

5:22:22

I I have respect for every one single one of you.

5:22:25

What happens in social media, this is the only way we could express, because we don't hear from most not all, because I I you know I I'm able to talk to you or a couple other people, but it it is a frustration that we don't like what's going on and nobody's hearing us.

5:22:44

We've been that the base is doing whatever they want.

5:22:48

Forget about the forget about the residents.

5:22:50

We don't mean anything, and you know what?

5:22:53

You're there because we voted you and I'm looking for peace.

5:22:58

This is just throwing me, my person, even me.

5:23:01

I'm not a debated person.

5:23:02

I'm a very religious person, but I have to stand for what I know and I believe is wrong.

5:23:08

And the only way we're gonna start is from the base engaging with us.

5:23:14

Everything will be okay.

5:23:15

Yeah, just do it.

5:23:16

Let's do that together.

5:23:17

We don't engage.

5:23:18

This is the problem.

5:23:20

Yeah, just echo your sentiments, uh, Commissioner Magazine.

5:23:23

I and I think we all are, I'm told all the time, every day, multiple times a day that uh from our residents that they're so grateful they live in our Miami Beach.

5:23:32

Of course, there's always things to be to do better and make it better, and that's why all our residents and us are working toward that goal.

5:23:39

But residents telling me there's not a place in the world they'd rather live.

5:23:42

They feel safe here, they feel comfortable, and then sometimes specific groups across the spectrum tell me, as a whatever, fill in the group.

5:23:51

There's no other place I'd rather be in Miami Beach, because we are a safe haven for everyone, and we're gonna continue to be, and that's why our ratings amongst these different uh categories that get rated by national groups are always um uh where we're at the top of the charts.

5:24:07

But that happens because there that doesn't happen by accident.

5:24:11

There's a reason why this city is such a safe haven.

5:24:14

First of all, it's because of all of you, because of our residents that are incredible and don't tolerate a level, are very tolerant and don't tolerate a level of hate.

5:24:25

And it happens, of course there's gonna be one offs.

5:24:27

There's not a city and the world that doesn't have situations come up.

5:24:30

We're made of a very diverse opinions of people.

5:24:34

But I also saw this morning how the seven of us are reflecting the residents and being tolerant, and we're not going to accept hate.

5:24:43

We are not ever going to accept hate in this city.

5:24:46

And we put our foot down this morning in a big way and we showed it.

5:24:50

Well, thank you to our residents, our businesses, our commission.

5:24:55

We may disagree on certain policies, but when it comes to being a safe accepting, welcoming city, there's no negotiation.

5:25:04

Mr.

5:25:04

Mayor.

5:25:05

Commissioner Fernandez.

5:25:06

You know, one of the things that I love about being a Miami Beach City Commissioner.

5:25:11

It's a diversity that we get to represent.

5:25:14

I love representing just the broad spectrum of people that make up the beautiful melting pot of this community.

5:25:23

Whether it be the Jewish community, whether it be the Episcopalian community, uh over at the church at Old Souls, or whether it be the black community, uh and working with with Glendon or our LGBTQ community, or or women and the women's commission, or different uh Hispanic groups, or different or other uh groups.

5:25:50

It's really what I love about Miami Beach is our diversity, representing that diversity and fighting for that diversity, and speaking up when the different groups of our community are being targeted.

5:26:08

I feel like sometimes what people want to see is you know that passion across the board.

5:26:14

Um, you know, the passion that that we have, they I think some people wanted to just make sure that you know we are equally you know passionate with all different groups in protecting all all different groups, and I think we are.

5:26:27

I think we are.

5:26:28

I think this commission has displayed that.

5:26:31

Uh and I think they have that expectation of us.

5:26:34

Uh, you know, to passionately fight against anti-semitism, to passionately fight uh against racism, all types of discrimination, discrimination uh against Hispanics, discrimination against the LGBTQ community, but to do it vocally and to do it for all groups with the same passion that we would do it for one group.

5:26:58

And I think and I think that that is what I hear a lot of time from the community, and that's why they feel safe in Miami Beach because they know if they are targeted, they know they can count on their elected leadership to have their back, to speak up, to fight for them, and to always fight ensure with their safety with the same level of passion.

5:27:18

Thank you, Mr.

5:27:19

Mayor.

5:27:19

Thank you, Commissioner Fernandez, and that's exactly what this legislation does.

5:27:25

It ensures that if someone of all these different diverse backgrounds that's mentioned in here is targeted and a crime is committed against them because of their beliefs, their lifestyle, whatever it is that's listed here, that that will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

5:27:44

I'll call the vote.

5:27:46

Yes, sir, mayor.

5:27:47

I didn't catch made the motion.

5:27:48

I know you did not.

5:27:50

I did.

5:27:51

Commissioner Bott, and I have seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

5:27:58

Co-sponsored by Commissioner Fernandez and Vice Mayor Mateo Salinas, too.

5:28:04

Got it.

5:28:06

So uh motion by Commissioner Bott, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez, co-sponsored by Commissioner Fernandez, and Vice Mayor Monica Mateo Salinas.

5:28:12

Um roll call, Commissioner Fernandez.

5:28:15

Yes.

5:28:15

Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas.

5:28:17

Yes.

5:28:18

Commissioner Suarez.

5:28:19

Yes.

5:28:19

Commissioner Magazine.

5:28:20

Yes.

5:28:21

Commissioner Bott.

5:28:22

Yes.

5:28:22

Commissioner Dominguez.

5:28:23

Yes.

5:28:24

Minor.

5:28:25

Yes.

5:28:25

Item passes.

5:28:26

The item is approved.

5:28:27

That was R5J.

5:28:32

R5 L.

5:28:45

So there are city commissioners at my beach for the amending ordinance 2024-4682 to extend the sunset date of the discounted fees for timely files recertification reports and associated building permit fees from December 31, 2025 to December 31, 2026, and providing for repealer servability codification and effective date.

5:29:02

This is a second reading public hearing.

5:29:04

It is item R5L.

5:29:07

Commissioner Suarez, take it away, Vince.

5:29:11

This is consistent with what was previously passed.

5:29:13

This is a mere extension.

5:29:15

And there's no objections or anything to add.

5:29:18

I'll move it.

5:29:20

Sorry about it.

5:29:21

The second was Commissioner Magazine.

5:29:23

Did I hear that?

5:29:24

It's like a tie, but yeah.

5:29:26

You're okay with that.

5:29:28

It is a public hearing.

5:29:29

I see no one on Zoom, no one in the audience requesting to speak.

5:29:31

Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Magazine.

5:29:34

Commissioner Dominguez.

5:29:35

Yes.

5:29:36

Commissioner Magazine.

5:29:37

Yes.

5:29:38

Commissioner Suarez.

5:29:39

Yes.

5:29:39

Commissioner Bott.

5:29:40

Yes.

5:29:41

Commissioner Fernandez.

5:29:44

Is out.

5:29:45

Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas.

5:29:47

Yes.

5:29:48

Mayor Minor.

5:29:48

Yes.

5:29:49

Motion carries the item is approved.

5:29:51

That was R5L.

5:29:52

R5M.

5:30:00

City Commissioner of the City by B reported by amending chapter 10 in title Animals by creating Section 1021 entitled Shore-based shark fishing prohibited definitions, penalties to provide definition of prohibition and penalties and providing for repeaters of ability codification and an effective date.

5:30:13

This is a second reading public hearing.

5:30:15

It is item R5M.

5:30:17

Commissioner?

5:30:20

Commissioner Dominguez with uh full commission uh co-signment.

5:30:24

I was going to say that.

5:30:25

Uh so with that I move the item.

5:30:27

Second.

5:30:28

And then if there's public comment, Spencer, did you want to come up and say something?

5:30:32

Okay.

5:30:39

It is a public hearing.

5:30:40

I see no one on Zoom, no one in the audience question to speak.

5:30:43

May I call the roll?

5:30:44

Yes.

5:30:44

Of a motion by Commissioner Dominguez.

5:30:47

Seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

5:30:48

Commissioner Fernandez.

5:30:50

Is out.

5:30:51

Commissioner Dominguez.

5:30:52

Yes.

5:30:53

Commissioner Magazine.

5:30:54

Yes.

5:30:54

Commissioner Suarez.

5:30:55

Yes.

5:30:56

Last Mayor Montel Salinas.

5:30:57

Yes.

5:30:57

Commissioner Bott.

5:30:58

Yes.

5:30:59

Mayor Minor.

5:30:59

Yes.

5:31:00

Motion carries.

5:31:01

That was item R5 M.

5:31:03

R5N.

5:31:10

Right 5 N is an answer to the mayor of City Commission of the City by Border Amending Chapter 62 of the Code and Title Human Relations by Amending Article 2 and Title Discrimination by Amending Division 3 and Title Regulations by Creating Section 62-93 thereof and title service animals by adopting regulations pertaining to service animals and providing for several ability codification on an effective date.

5:31:28

This is a second reading public hearing.

5:31:29

It is item R5N Commissioner Dominguez, co-sponsored by Commissioner Bott and Vice Mayor Mateo Salinas.

5:31:37

So a friend of the animal welfare committee had uh recommended that this uh be put forward so that the city can adopt the state statute for uh no discrimination against people with service animals, and I'll move the item.

5:31:50

Second it is a public hearing.

5:31:54

I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience requesting to speak.

5:31:56

It's called a vote.

5:31:57

Uh Commissioner, a motion by Commissioner Dominguez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez, Commissioner Dominguez.

5:32:02

Yes.

5:32:02

Commissioner Magazine.

5:32:04

Yes.

5:32:04

Mayor Matel Salinas.

5:32:06

Yes.

5:32:06

Commissioner Bott.

5:32:07

Yes.

5:32:07

Commissioner Fernandez is absent.

5:32:09

Commissioner Suarez.

5:32:10

Yes.

5:32:11

Mayor Minor.

5:32:12

Yes.

5:32:12

Motion carries the item is approved.

5:32:14

That was item R5N.

5:32:17

R9AC.

5:32:21

R9AC.

5:32:29

R9AC is discuss action new management agreement with MDPL or cities procurement process.

5:32:41

Eric.

5:32:41

So Mr.

5:32:42

Mayor, um, I just wanted to highlight that after the administration put this item on the agenda.

5:32:49

We were contacted by the Office of the Inspector General, mentioning that he has a pending investigation going on, and he anticipated being able to issue a report on that sometime in the next or or release a draft report sometime in the next 30 days.

5:33:17

Understanding that we were contacted that there might be some outstanding items that need to be resolved.

5:33:26

Yeah, and I appreciate that.

5:33:28

And I I thought it was worthy of calling because there's been quite a bit of attention to this.

5:33:32

We've gotten a lot of emails.

5:33:33

Uh so I didn't just want to not call it.

5:33:35

So we'll make the termination.

5:33:38

Commissioner Suarez.

5:33:40

Yeah, you know, now that we're on this topic, I think the last time we discussed this, you know, at least the committee, we wanted to see what changes were made at MDPL as it relates to lobbying.

5:33:54

Um fees, um, being collected from developers.

5:33:59

Um and maybe changes to your bylaws.

5:34:03

Uh to really prevent what was an egregious abusive behavior from your previous director.

5:34:11

Um I'd also like to call up the inspector general to share a few thoughts.

5:34:18

Okay, because he reached out to me personally and said, hey, I don't think this is a uh a good idea to vote on until we get some clarification.

5:34:27

So I want I would like Joe to come up and speak because we we did get a deluge of emails in support of extending this contract for three years.

5:34:38

And I I don't understand why there was a call to action email sent to your membership, knowing that there is a pending inspector general report.

5:34:50

Um and that puts obviously us in uh in a very precarious situation.

5:34:57

So um if we could just get some answers, Joe and Roger.

5:35:00

So if we could just get some answers, Joe and Roger, that that'd be great.

5:35:03

That way it's a little bit more smooth sailing once this item does get called.

5:35:09

Or again after the report is released.

5:35:17

Good afternoon, Commissioners.

5:35:18

Uh mayor.

5:35:20

Joseph Sanorito, uh Inspector General.

5:35:22

Was there a specific question you wanted me to address?

5:35:27

I I got a question for you.

5:35:30

Would it be appropriate now to vote on this item?

5:35:33

Excuse me.

5:35:34

Would it be appropriate today to vote on this item and why?

5:35:37

You know, we don't have a position on the on the item itself.

5:35:41

But as you know, we've we have had a a fairly lengthy investigation going on since last summer, and which is almost complete.

5:35:50

Um and uh you know we have we've looked and and I think without getting into the details, I'm not going to discuss details, but I think everybody knows there have been some problems in the way the operation has has uh has uh been carried out in the past.

5:36:04

And there are some serious problems, and we've identified them, and uh and we will be putting out a report that will explain everything.

5:36:12

Um I think that however you go on this, I mean I think to that there's gonna have to needs to be some restructuring and some changes made in the in the way uh this thing goes forward.

5:36:24

And I think before you can before you really can can solve that or or reach the right uh the right conclusion, you need to have you know as much information as possible.

5:36:35

And I think the the information that will come out of this uh uh we have an audit and investigation, gone through a lot of financial issues um would be would be helpful um uh going forward.

5:36:47

Uh again, we we don't take a position on the actual issue before you, but I think it would behoove you to to uh to have that information before you uh before you made a decision on how to go forward with uh you know with this issue.

5:36:59

And so let me follow up with Roger.

5:37:01

So Roger, I mean you're the chair of the organization.

5:37:04

Why was there a call to action letter sent out knowing full well that this has been going on since last summer?

5:37:11

You know, because that puts us in a precarious situation.

5:37:14

And it makes it makes my resident it makes it seem like we're trying to delay this when you know we're just waiting for a a report to come out that highlights some concerns.

5:37:25

Because we've gotten so many requests from members who have heard about this, what can we do?

5:37:29

And we've done this before, whenever this is an important issue, we let them know what's going on.

5:37:34

This is how you can contact people.

5:37:35

It wasn't to sway, it was just to show support.

5:37:39

Uh because sometimes they feel that we're not supported.

5:37:43

I'm sorry.

5:37:44

Some sometimes the members feel that we're we're not.

5:37:49

So they want us to know what you're doing.

5:37:50

What do you do?

5:37:51

What do you mean not supported?

5:37:52

That that they that the our building is in jeopardy, our lease is in jeopardy, and and they they legitimately just want to help.

5:38:01

Okay.

5:38:02

Do you do you did you notify your members that you are under an investigation from the inspector general?

5:38:11

I don't believe we did, no.

5:38:14

Okay, well, that's a problem, right?

5:38:16

Because you know, you guys are under a uh a very long, you know, since the last summer investigation.

5:38:24

Um we have a pending report from what I understand, it it keeps on getting delayed because the office of the inspector general keeps on finding new information that raises more and more serious questions.

5:38:39

Um I think if you guys really want to be in good faith, at least with me, I mean I certainly wouldn't appreciate call to actions to your membership, having them try to get us to vote on an item that really should needs a little bit more clarity, especially from one of our charter officers.

5:39:01

Uh I I believe that that's our prerogative to uh do it.

5:39:04

We're not doing anything the legally illegal or wrong.

5:39:08

We just feel that we're being overly we're suffering for sins of somebody who hasn't been there for like a year almost.

5:39:16

You're suffering what?

5:39:17

We're suffering from sins from people who have not been there for well over a year.

5:39:23

We have a new executive director, we have a new chair, we we've made all these changes, and the problem is with the IG's office is we don't have access to a lot of this information that they're asking for.

5:39:36

Uh everything was left in total disarray.

5:39:40

So we're doing the best we can.

5:39:42

And it seems like it it's a really difficult situation for us.

5:39:47

So sure, if our members say what what what can they do to help, I say, you know, content you probably saw the note that we sent out in some of the things.

5:39:56

Yeah, but you understand our concern, right?

5:39:58

Or at least my concern.

5:39:59

No, no, no.

5:40:00

It seems like you guys are putting the cart before the horse.

5:40:02

And you know, he's our inspector general is telling us hey, it's really not a good idea to vote on this until you know you get some more clarity on things that I found.

5:40:12

And then we're getting pressure from residents and members of your organization saying you need a vote on this, you know, it's important to us.

5:40:19

And so, you know, obviously there's a disconnect.

5:40:21

And I mean, I certainly don't, you know, appreciate it.

5:40:24

Um seems like we're getting strong armed into this when in reality we we should be able to have you know full transparency on what's going on because you know, let's be honest.

5:40:36

Some of the issues that he's finding, I found and there's a reason why you have a new director.

5:40:44

Right?

5:40:45

And of course um you're I know you're new on the job, and I'm sure you're gonna do a great job.

5:40:51

Um but you know, there's been serious concerns over the last decade.

5:40:56

Uh that really has metastasized, and you know, fortunately for the previous director, it was like a house of cards.

5:41:04

And now it has all fallen down.

5:41:07

It has to the point now where the ethics commission has um is basically found probable cause for um for for finding your previous director uh in violation of our city lobbying code.

5:41:23

And that's gonna happen, I believe, next week, and we'll see where that goes.

5:41:28

So um I would appreciate it if you can update your members and tell them hey, the reason why this wasn't called and and why the commission didn't vote was because there's a pending investigation.

5:41:43

Okay, I I think Meg online to make a comment.

5:41:47

Good afternoon, everyone.

5:41:48

I've met I think all of you.

5:41:49

My name is Meg Lusto, I'm the new executive director of the Miami Divine Preservation League, very proud to be that in that position.

5:41:56

Um my first day was November 17th, so it hasn't been that long, although it does feel like a bit longer.

5:42:02

Um to address your comment, Commissioner Suarez.

5:42:05

Um we sent up the email to our members because the vote was today, and that's what we knew, and we wanted to show all of you the community support that our organization has, and I think you heard from some of the callers and from someone at the Sutnik Hour about the value that MDPL provides to the city through our almost 50 years of advocacy and protecting what makes Miami Beach so special and so unique.

5:42:26

Um I take your comments to heart.

5:42:28

I've taken all the comments to heart from the Inspector General's office.

5:42:32

Um I I don't know if we want to go over everything right now, but we are currently in talks with um a uh group called Charity CPA to do um governance internal controls and operational review.

5:42:44

So I I just want to assure everybody on this commission that we know that things were not done properly, and I am not someone who is going to stand for that, neither is Roger.

5:42:54

And um even if there weren't this external pressure, I would be insisting on making these changes, as would Roger.

5:42:59

So I know that I haven't been here long enough to really have the kind of trust that you build up over time, but I'm happy to meet with you individually and discuss any of our operations with you.

5:43:09

Thank you.

5:43:11

Commissioner Ba.

5:43:12

Oh, I'm sorry, I promised Commissioner Dominguez that Commissioner Bott.

5:43:15

Oh, just real quick.

5:43:16

Um, so I'm very supportive of Miami Design Preservation League and everything that the organization has done in our city for decades.

5:43:25

Um you are our deco, and it's because of NBDPL that um our postcard exists, and that's uh pretty exciting.

5:43:34

I'm a longtime member of MDPL, and I'm proud to attend uh your events at the location.

5:43:40

I too received a call from the inspector general, and the interpretation I received was let's hold off right now on the contract because there could be tweaks that we'd want to add or that the city would want to add in there.

5:43:55

Um so I think that's where this was coming.

5:43:59

But um as an organization, you should feel proud of everything that you've done for Miami Beach.

5:44:06

It's been terrific, and I respect both of you, and I look forward to getting past the Inspector General report and continuing the relationship because what you guys advocate for is incredible.

5:44:19

Thank you so much.

5:44:22

So I have a couple of thoughts.

5:44:24

First of all, the agenda was published last week, and we got the call from the IG.

5:44:28

I don't remember if it was yesterday or two days ago, but it wasn't more than two days ago.

5:44:32

And so it's I know it's a very complicated audit, and I know that Roger and Meg and team have been trying to create um recreate information that has been lost or buried or destroyed by prior um the prior director.

5:45:00

I I find it really troubling that there is a uh seems to be a desire to punish an organization that is so central to who Miami Beach is for the um the sins of its former executive director.

5:45:11

Um it was it has been very complicated and there were problems all along that some of us tried to fix, and clearly were not able to get nearly where we needed to be.

5:45:25

But that doesn't change that the fundamental mission of MDPL is critical to the city, not just for Ocean Drive, um which as Commissioner Dominguez pointed out would not be existing in its current state were it not for Ocean Drive, but also for MIMO up in North Beach and the Neo-Mediterranean single family homes throughout Midbeach.

5:45:47

Um, I've talked to Meg about the direction that she is hoping to bring the organization into.

5:45:53

Um much more education and outreach and um community building, which has been sorely lacking um and under the prior directorship.

5:46:04

You know, when when um we we currently have an excellent police department.

5:46:10

Um there have been years where we have had less than excellent police departments and we have had to deal with it.

5:46:17

That didn't mean that we blew up the police department and we kicked them out of their home.

5:46:22

It means it meant that we had to make sure that the proper direction and guidelines and operational procedures were put into place while they continue their work.

5:46:33

And that's what I want to see happen here.

5:46:35

To um, I mean, either you're gonna advocate to blow up MDPL completely because it doesn't matter, which I think is exactly what folks in Tallahassee would love to see, um, or you support the organization and want to help bring it into the new direction with the information from the IG in its current home.

5:46:54

Because to say that you support the organization, but they can do just fine in a fourth floor office off of Lincoln Road is an insult.

5:47:04

Um it is a uh it is a uh center of learning, it is a community center, um, it is a jewel in the crown of Ocean Drive.

5:47:12

Um people wander in all the time.

5:47:15

Um it is right in front of the the um uh ocean rescue uh and right next to the clock, so it's prime position, and that's how we start educating, or that's one of the ways that we can reach out to visitors who might not know about Ocean Drive.

5:47:30

So I am very supportive of ensuring that all of the feedback and the lessons learned and the systems that need to be put into place will be put into place contractually with KPIs and metrics, and if it means monthly meetings or quarterly meetings, like you know, you guys are cleaning up a mess that you were handed.

5:47:53

That to me does not mean though that you blow up the organization and kick it out of its location, because in doing so, it it doing even just moving it out of that location blows up the organization, and I am not in favor of that.

5:48:10

And I you know, I find it amusing to hear that um how dare you um let people know that there's a vote today when my colleagues we've all sat on the dais and sent out um notes to people or let residents know when they say, hey, this is an issue that's important to me, what can I do?

5:48:27

We say you can write, you can call, you can come to the meeting, you can listen to Zoom, you can speak up.

5:48:32

I mean, some of the colleagues who are seemingly concerned about this have done this on items that had otherwise been decided and were done, and have ended up in in attempted reversals.

5:48:43

So I think it's um it's pretty rich to hear that that's something that is problematic.

5:48:48

Your your resident, your your membership should know there's an IG report because it's gonna be complicated and there are going to be serious changes, and they should understand and be excited about the improvements that will come as a result.

5:49:02

So I I don't disagree that that they should know.

5:49:05

Um I am a little frustrated that you know when pressed we weren't given a firm date of when this report will be done.

5:49:12

I I don't think it should have come to this point if this were a concern.

5:49:16

Um, Joe, that you had that this shouldn't be heard before um before the report were were uh was going to be issued, then I think that should have been communicated to the administration, so this could have been deferred or or you know instead of having these last-minute dramatics and theatrics.

5:49:35

I think it's really counterproductive.

5:49:37

I think different sides will use it to spin their narrative and instead of letting the truth proceed and move forward together.

5:49:44

So I I'm I'm pretty frustrated at this entire situation.

5:49:49

Commissioner magazine.

5:49:50

Roger, truly want to applaud you.

5:49:52

I think you and George stepping in from the previous director have really just set a different tone and culture for the organization.

5:50:02

Meg, I look forward to you stepping into those shoes and uh writing the ship even more.

5:50:07

But truly I can't applaud you and your work enough, Roger.

5:50:10

Um just the collaborative tone you've said.

5:50:16

We talked a lot up here today in other aspects about culture and tone, and um you you've really led with a collaborative effort.

5:50:25

I thank you for that, and it's helped me change my perception of the organization because I do think for a long time it was clouded by one individual, and I painted with a broad brush.

5:50:35

So I I appreciate the pivot that you've helped uh a truly cherished organization uh take.

5:50:42

In fact, uh your outreach work because I was sitting there and said, Oh, I got an email from my mom.

5:50:48

Oh the uh item XYZ, save uh the MDPL Center.

5:50:52

I think we all got it.

5:50:53

Uh yeah, so um Mr.

5:50:59

Mr.

5:51:00

Inspector General, uh if you could clarify, I I get that you can't uh elaborate on too much with the pending report, but is this into an individual?

5:51:11

If it is uh a single individual, who are they?

5:51:14

Is it multiple individuals?

5:51:15

Is it into the organization?

5:51:17

Um that helps kind of clarify things.

5:51:21

It's there's not an easy answer to that question.

5:51:23

I mean, there are individuals who did certain things, but there are structural issues within the organization that we think you know contributed in large part to you know to individuals doing certain things.

5:51:35

So I mean uh in general.

5:51:36

So I mean I think that's it's important to understand.

5:51:39

We're we're not targeting any the the this organization.

5:51:42

We're we're looking at a problem that's a serious one.

5:51:46

This is a serious uh uh you know, serious uh um issue before the before the commission.

5:51:51

And I have had conversations in the past with you know, some of you we have we don't talk about these things publicly, you know, generally speaking, but um I think you know, I mean and I I have not really interacted with the current uh uh the current director here, but but she has been interacted with my staff.

5:52:10

I've gotten very good reports about the the the cooperation of the current the current staff.

5:52:16

I will say this began before the current staff was there, and we had some serious problems getting getting cooperation and getting information.

5:52:26

That delayed things for quite a while.

5:52:28

Um and uh that that was unfortunate, but I think we've gotten to the point we've finally have gotten everything we needed to get.

5:52:36

Um and uh it's gonna take a little while to put it all together in a in a coherent report, but um I think it's important that you have the information that we're gonna provide.

5:52:47

Thank you.

5:52:47

And and given what you said, uh that there are some changes you're going to be coming forward with to the organization, and I think the city commission should be a part of that.

5:52:57

And I think uh it's just simple business and leverage, right?

5:53:01

Like uh we want that out there and not committing for three years before we work together collaboratively.

5:53:08

And I think you have all of our commitments that once we find out where some of these shortcomings were, that we work together to change those.

5:53:15

And I don't want this to be uh rushed, you know, if we're getting your report in a month, a month and a half.

5:53:23

I also want time to uh work with the organization to implement some of these changes before locking up a long-term lease.

5:53:31

Uh I'm not suggesting we we put out another RFQ.

5:53:35

Keep you in place, right?

5:53:37

But let's defer this perhaps for uh Ozzy, when is the lease actually up?

5:53:44

They currently have an extension, the lease expired in December.

5:53:48

They have an extension through June 30th of 2026.

5:53:51

So maybe what I would uh propose, and this is just one person.

5:53:57

I'll just kind of get the ball rolling and see where it lands from there.

5:54:01

Uh vote to extend that by three months, right?

5:54:05

That'll give us time to get your report, digest the report, work with your organization as we work towards some of those changes and allow us the time then to lock you into pending all of those things going well into your longer-term lease.

5:54:22

Mr.

5:54:22

Mayor.

5:54:23

Yeah, I'll first uh Commissioner uh Vice Mayor Mateo Salinas and then Commissioner Fernandez.

5:54:28

So I was once in your shoes.

5:54:31

I stood before the podium as the former board chair of the Mying Beach Community Development Corporation, and similar to MDPL, we had some issues with our former executive director, and I came on after that, after that person had since resigned.

5:54:43

And I was a new board member, we changed our whole board, we changed our new uh administration, we changed the executive director, we did everything that we thought we could in order to save that organization and to turn the ship around, so to speak.

5:55:00

And after months of battling with the city and the county about about funding and about the direction of the organization, we ended up relinquishing the portfolio of affordable housing to the county.

5:55:07

Right or wrong, it happened.

5:55:08

Um that organization did not survive.

5:55:11

And ironically, your former executive director attacked me during my campaign for trying to save that organization by claiming that I was responsible, which I wasn't.

5:55:23

But if I sat up here and did to you guys what was done to me when I tried to save a nonprofit that really meant well and did a lot of good in this town, I'd be no better.

5:55:33

And that's not my intention, and that's not what I intend to do today or ever, frankly.

5:55:38

MDPL is a very important organization.

5:55:40

You've worked hard for this town, you've worked hard for this community, you've helped preserve the buildings.

5:55:46

There have been some practices that have not been, you know, kosher, so to speak.

5:55:51

Um, and we and I do want to meet with you, Meg.

5:55:53

I I think that you're phenomenal and you're a fantastic hire, and you're gonna do great at MGPL and Roger, you've fought very hard too.

5:56:02

I do want to meet with you to see what changes you have implemented in your bylaws and in you know your practices and your disclosure statements lobbying all of the things, which I'm happy to set up with you, Meg.

5:56:14

Um, so I would second, you know, because I haven't read the report, I would second Commissioner Magazine's motion to defer this item and to extend your contract.

5:56:21

But I uh I do think that you guys are a phenomenal organization, and I do support you.

5:56:26

Thank you.

5:56:28

Thank you.

5:56:29

Commissioner Fernandez.

5:56:30

Thank you, Mr.

5:56:31

Mayor.

5:56:31

Just a question that I have for the city attorney.

5:56:34

Um, and I don't know the answer to this question, and similar to Commissioner Magazine.

5:56:39

I don't like ask asking questions, I don't have the answer to.

5:56:42

Um as it relates to management agreements and contracts that we have, can we do we have a termination clause?

5:56:50

We we typically do have a termination for convenience clause in our agreements.

5:56:54

So, you know, assuming we adopt this today, and there are issues that don't get solved, and I think Roger is a credible and uh a very credible um leader in our community, he has the highest of ethics.

5:57:12

You've been a public servant.

5:57:13

I think you've even worked in the White House.

5:57:15

Yeah.

5:57:16

And now you're the chair of NDPL.

5:57:18

Um Meg has a very tremendous and illustrious background in cultural organizations, and we're fortunate that now you've only been on the job for only two months.

5:57:30

Almost three months.

5:57:32

Almost three months.

5:57:33

Um, prayers can move mountains, but I'm not sure you can really change the direction of an entire organization in just three months.

5:57:45

You know, I I think I think it's it's difficult to make decisions about the future of an organization if you really don't know what you're going to be able to do in the long term.

5:57:58

And we've seen that case time and over again.

5:58:03

Um for as long as we have a termination clause in our contract, for as long as we know that if the assurances that were made for transparency, for reform, for separation of fundraising from advocacy, if those commitments are not met, that we can reconsider the contract, we can cancel the contract if we if if if we need to, uh for as long as we have and we retain that right, I'm fine moving forward because I do trust this leadership chair, Roger Goldblad Meg, who just came in as the executive director.

5:58:43

I think we need to show them trust in their ability to turn this around and get them a deadline.

5:58:48

Hey, listen, if what I would do is, you know, move to approve this, but hey, if by the end of the year you haven't implemented these changes, you know, you could end up in a difficult situation here where we may have to exercise some of our rights under under the contract.

5:59:10

And and so I'm saying this as someone, you know, who sponsored the red flag ordinance, Mr.

5:59:17

Inspector General, and the inspector general called me to give me a red flag about about this item.

5:59:24

Um this is you've been there since what, 1993?

5:59:31

The building.

5:59:33

Since when have you been managing the facility?

5:59:36

Thirty years.

5:59:38

Thirty years.

5:59:39

And so, you know, I'm comfortable moving for the approval for as long as we've retained the rights uh to terminate if the changes that we hope to see are not done.

5:59:52

I'll move the item.

5:59:53

I have one question, but I'll second it.

5:59:55

Um, Eric or Ozzy, I'm not sure.

6:00:00

Um generally, how long does it take to negotiate and complete a contract from time of commission giving you direction?

6:00:07

I would imagine it takes more than just a few weeks.

6:00:10

It would take a few months to negotiate a contract, get it vetted out, and then come back to we we have to go through the finance committee, because it will be a new agreement, and then from the finance committee, then come back to commission.

6:00:22

So while we're literally while we're negotiating the contract, the IG report will be returned to us, and we will have in real time in our hands the issues that need to be written into the contract.

6:00:34

So it's quite probable that before we even get to the final contract, um, it will be written to ensure that the um well to be generous, the missteps of the past cannot be repeated going forward.

6:00:48

Um there is also a tremendous, and I want to give credit to this and make sure that everyone hears this.

6:00:55

In years past, in many years past, not just the immediate past, but long before I was involved, there was a real um sense of secrecy about the MDPL.

6:01:09

And I I don't know where that came from.

6:01:12

I wasn't involved.

6:01:13

I suspect it was because they might have felt under attack by people who are trying to undermine them at every turn.

6:01:19

I don't know.

6:01:19

But that that was a culture that permeated, and it was really frustrating.

6:01:23

I can tell you, as a former board member, when we tried to open the doors and get more people involved or have different kinds of conversations on issues, um it invite more people to the table.

6:01:36

It wasn't always welcome.

6:01:37

And I I can tell you the observation from the outside looking in and from talking to folks who are involved now.

6:01:45

That is such a dramatic 180 degree change for the better.

6:01:49

And I will tell you guys, you know, you're hearing up here very clearly that you're that the advocacy the advocacy and the work of the organization is vital to the city and and valued.

6:02:02

And it's now, you know, no pressure, but I'm just saying the future of the organization is on your collective shoulders and your board members and your employees need to hear that as well.

6:02:13

And you need to set the board up in a manner that when the board asks questions, they actually get answers.

6:02:19

I cannot tell you the number of times when I was on a board, uh, was on the board, and I asked for information about X or Y, or wanted to expand an outreach effort or something, was told, don't you worry about it, we've got it.

6:02:33

Don't you you don't need to know about it.

6:02:34

It's fine.

6:02:35

And so that is, you know, that is a fundamental change that I see happening already and needs to continue moving into transparency and and accessibility for everybody.

6:02:48

So um I will second you um your motion, uh, Commissioner Fernandez, with the very clear understanding that as we go through the negotiation of the contract and as the IG makes his report known, and as we collectively work together to safeguard the future of the work that this organization does, that all eyes from around the city and all over the status will be on you guys collectively to ensure that we get what we need collectively.

6:03:18

We all get what we need, and that's accountability, transparency, and responsibility, in addition to the advocacy.

6:03:26

And just to clarify, I want to just clarify that my motion is to direct staff to negotiate the new management agreement.

6:03:33

Uh that would be my motion.

6:03:36

I will just say that there is a motion on the floor though.

6:03:39

I'd like to say a few words.

6:03:42

Joe.

6:03:45

Do you think we should move forward with this?

6:03:48

Well I don't take a position on the issue before you.

6:03:52

My my suggestion was that I think putting myself in your position, I would want to know as much as I I could about before I'm you know, we made a decision going forward.

6:04:02

That was a that was my suggestion.

6:04:04

That is my suggestion.

6:04:05

Um I have no problem with I mean, I had no problem with you know extending it on the temporary basis that it has been or even longer than that.

6:04:14

Uh you know, because I I mean obviously they're there and they should stay should stay there until some something else happens.

6:04:19

So um I mean I certainly don't feel comfortable moving forward on negotiating when our own inspector general is telling us that you know he has some serious concerns with fundamentals within the organization.

6:04:33

What what if he comes forward with suggestions on on how that's changed and and they say no?

6:04:39

I kind of we kind of lose our negotiating power.

6:04:42

Um for the better of MDPL, hopefully.

6:04:46

So, you know, I would cautiously request that you know we just extend it for another three months after July.

6:04:54

I don't think we should be making any more, you know.

6:05:00

I don't think we should be making any more, you know, I don't think we should be moving forward or directing staff to negotiate until we really get the full picture of what's going on because you know there may be a suggestion that they're not comfortable with, you know, for example accepting quote unquote donations from developers.

6:05:13

You know, if that's not a that's a red line for me.

6:05:16

If they continue to want to accept donations from developers that have over the last decade have really eroded our own zoning laws in Tallahassee, I don't think that's a good idea.

6:05:29

I mean, I want to I want to make sure that certainly don't reward bad behavior.

6:05:34

And again, I know that a lot of this stems from one individual.

6:05:39

Um, but that one individual was allowed to continue to terrorize um not only the community, but he he degraded the the organization.

6:05:54

And so um, you know, respectfully, commissioner, I'd I'd like to just extend it for three more months past July.

6:06:00

I don't see the harm in that.

6:06:02

Uh it seems like there's already votes, but I think we want to at least give the public perception that you know, we listen to our inspector general and and and some suggestions that he has for how we govern ourselves.

6:06:14

Okay.

6:06:14

Uh first of all, I like to say we changed our bylaws six months ago, and I sent you and every other commissioner a copy, the IG's office got it as well.

6:06:24

We we changed the donation policy, we changed the running for office policy.

6:06:29

What is the donation policy?

6:06:31

No, no, no developer, uh, we will not accept donations for more than five thousand dollars uh from any developer, and if another a developer ends up doing business with the city, we return the money, uh whatever donation they give.

6:06:48

See, I don't I personally don't think you should be taking any money from developers.

6:06:52

I think that it's raises a serious conflict of interest.

6:06:55

I mean, the fact that you're here telling me that, I mean, most of your donations for developers was five thousand dollars, and I don't really see the difference between now and then.

6:07:04

Okay.

6:07:05

Let me let me just finish because you you you're never gonna be happy with what we do, I'm afraid.

6:07:11

We're trying as hard as we can.

6:07:13

I came in, there were no records.

6:07:16

Nothing was organized.

6:07:18

It was impossible, we couldn't even change the voicemail on our phone.

6:07:22

It still had Daniel's voice giving wrong information, warrant tours, whatever.

6:07:28

It's impossible.

6:07:29

Uh, Roger, I think.

6:07:32

Even that's a good idea.

6:07:32

Oh, wait, I know I have a chance.

6:07:35

I want to just say, like, even to that point, you know, you're asking us to give away one of our most prized possessions on the beach and and and sign a contract for long term.

6:07:46

And then for you're telling me for the last five, 10 years you didn't have any records ready at the at the at the ready.

6:07:54

No, no, no.

6:07:55

I mean, there there are records.

6:07:58

But you know, uh, you I've also heard quotes like, wouldn't it be nice to change our building into a restoration hardware, which is kind of silly.

6:08:05

But what no, there were rumors people want to do this, they wanted to do that.

6:08:10

Our our building is sacred.

6:08:12

Our cause is sacred.

6:08:14

I am the most honest person I know, the most ethical person.

6:08:17

I worked in DC for 40 years.

6:08:19

I understand ethics very well.

6:08:22

I know most of you personally.

6:08:25

I know, I know.

6:08:26

I thought about that after I said it actually.

6:08:28

But I know most of you personally, I I I think you know me.

6:08:32

I I I'm not going anywhere.

6:08:34

I mean, there are many times, you know, it would be easy to just drop out when you see what we were left with.

6:08:40

We looked really hard to find the perfect executive director.

6:08:44

Uh, you know, we started out in the local area, then Florida, then the US, and then the world, and we we found Meg.

6:08:51

She's the opposite uh of our previous executive director.

6:08:55

She has organized the office.

6:08:57

We no longer have any of the former staff working in our office anymore.

6:09:03

Roger, I I don't doubt that.

6:09:04

No, but I'm telling you, we have to do that.

6:09:05

I don't I listen, I don't doubt that she's gonna do a phenomenal job.

6:09:09

But let's be honest, and let's let's be honest with each other.

6:09:13

The reason why you do have a new director is because I raise serious concerns the way the way MDPL conducts itself, raises its money, takes positions on matter before the city and our planning boards, our historic preservation boards, and how that times with some donations.

6:09:32

And I think that's gonna come out in the inspector general's report, if I had to guess.

6:10:03

Or what was given to me and me presented to the public.

6:10:07

So look, if if there are six of my colleagues that want to sign on the dotted line or start negotiations, meanwhile, there's an inspector general telling us that there's he has serious concerns, structural concerns, not just with one individual, but the way this organization's run.

6:10:25

I certainly would that would give me pause on how to negotiate a deal or a contract.

6:10:35

So, you know, look, um, respectfully, I I'm certainly not going to be okay with that, you know.

6:10:41

If if you know if I know that there's been conflicts of interest for the last five, ten years, and your previous director was allowed to continue to do this without any sort of oversight.

6:10:57

You know, what kind of message are we sending to the city that we're gonna be able to just continue about it and not and pretend it didn't have it?

6:11:05

Well, just because we hired a new director.

6:11:08

So look, I think it's prudent and good governance to at least see what this report says, um, and then we can make a decision after what you know, especially what magazine suggested.

6:11:20

Commissioner gives us Commissioner Magazine has suggested with um of reaching out to your organization once we have it, and then it'll give us I think better negotiating power as a commission to get what's best for the city of Miami Beach.

6:11:44

Okay, do we have a motion on the table?

6:11:46

Um well, I think Commissioner Magazine had a motion.

6:11:48

I was gonna propose an amendment to my motion, but I think procedurally he has my my motion is out of order because uh Commissioner Magazine had a motion that was seconded.

6:12:00

We forgive and to clarify my motion, which I believe Commissioner Mateo Slinus um seconded, was extend so if you could clarify the lease was extended and now terminates when?

6:12:14

June 30th of 2026.

6:12:16

June 30th.

6:12:17

Uh I don't want to have to get this report and then hopefully negotiate with a gun to our heads or to your head.

6:12:24

So I would like to extend that extension by three months, which will extend to September of 2026.

6:12:32

August is off.

6:12:34

August is off.

6:12:36

Um I mean, hopefully, though we we have this uh beforehand and we get this done.

6:12:44

Um extend the lease through September 2026.

6:12:54

That gives us time to get the report digested, work with MDPL, if necessary, implement the right structural changes going forward.

6:13:03

You have my commitment, Roger, Meg, and the rest of the organization, mom, you too.

6:13:08

Um I want to see you remain in this building.

6:13:11

I want to see a new and revised MDPL, the organization that we're all proud of that has done that great work, perhaps without the rottenness at the top, right?

6:13:22

And I'm confident we could do that, and if we can, you have my commitment.

6:13:25

I want to see you remain in that building.

6:13:28

This just gives us the time uh to do so.

6:13:30

Um Mr.

6:13:31

Mayor, Commissioner Fernandez.

6:13:33

So Mr.

6:13:36

Magazine, I'll be supportive of your motion.

6:13:39

If we can give them until the end of the year, sure.

6:13:41

Uh Mag is a new executive director.

6:13:44

Um she's only been there three months.

6:13:47

She can't change an organization over time.

6:13:51

And I think you know, dealing coming into a new role, dealing with our Deco weekend, uh dealing with the legislature which you've been dealing with, dealing with an inspector general requests and and all that, it's it's owners.

6:14:05

It's it's a lot to do in a short period of time.

6:14:09

So if uh if we could uh Commissioner Magazine Thank you.

6:14:19

If we could extend this to the end of the year, that way we give them the opportunity to make those shifts.

6:14:26

We respect the work that the inspector general is doing.

6:14:30

There's a reason that the office exists.

6:14:33

Um, I think it'll be the most prudent uh approach.

6:14:37

That's fine with me.

6:14:41

Just one quick thing, I'm sorry.

6:14:43

Um, first of all, you have my personal assurance that we will comply and respond and react to and learn from the results of this inspector general report.

6:14:50

It's an opportunity for us to look at things that we weren't doing properly to make those changes.

6:14:55

And as I mentioned, we're also working with a firm that's going to do an operational and governance analysis of our operations.

6:15:01

Um I just wanted to also say that next Art Deco weekend will be our 50th.

6:15:07

That'll be over MLK weekend in 2027.

6:15:10

We're already starting to prepare for that.

6:15:12

And although Barbara Beer Caputman, our founder, technically founded us in 1976, we were incorporated in 1977.

6:15:18

So we're already starting to plan now for 2027 to be our 50th anniversary year.

6:15:23

And we very much look forward to being around and being in our building for that year.

6:15:28

And I appreciate all the comments.

6:15:30

We we've taken everyone's comment to heart.

6:15:33

Um we know we have a lot of repair work to do.

6:15:36

We commit to working with each and every one of you with the office of the inspector general and to being the best organization that we can be.

6:15:42

Thanks.

6:15:43

Meg if if if I may, just one of the things that recurrently that for me is very important, the firewall between development and fundraising and advocacy.

6:15:55

That firewall needs to exist.

6:15:57

I have led advocacy organizations, particularly in the French quarter.

6:16:00

Um that is something that I feel very strongly about.

6:16:04

There has to be clear separation.

6:16:06

Advocacy has to be its own thing, it has to be totally independent, otherwise it doesn't really matter.

6:16:11

Thank you, Meg.

6:16:13

I know there's one last thing.

6:16:15

Um Meg, that I have you know, one of the issues that we have was there's no transparency.

6:16:21

Would you be willing to subject at least part of your organization to the sunshine laws?

6:16:30

Similar to what we have to go through in in terms of if you're gonna have a meeting on an item, I'd like to be noticed.

6:16:40

I'd like it there'd be minutes taken.

6:16:42

I mean an advocacy matter or uh it could be advocacy, it could be fundraising, um, you know, because you're gonna be working in our government building.

6:16:52

Right.

6:16:53

And you're gonna be getting uh a heavy subsidy.

6:16:56

And I think I'm generally okay with that, but I want to make sure that there's full transparency because some of the issues that I've heard from your own members who used to be on the executive board, that there really is no transparency.

6:17:09

And I would like there to be writing that the your members are subject to the sunshine law.

6:17:17

I would really want to consult with an attorney about the implications of that.

6:17:20

I'm not sure.

6:17:20

As a we are a private nonprofit organization that does have a management agreement with the city, so we're quasi public in that way.

6:17:26

But the independence of our advocacy efforts, especially, may often be at odds with something that the city board is recommending.

6:17:34

So I'm not sure how that would work, and I would really want to consult with an attorney before making even a commitment about that.

6:17:39

And that's something that we can talk about over the next year.

6:17:42

Happy to do so.

6:17:43

Great.

6:17:46

Hold the vote.

6:17:47

So this is of the extension until December 31st.

6:17:50

It's our item R9AC.

6:17:52

I have a motion by Commissioner Magazine, seconded by Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas.

6:17:56

All in favor, please say aye.

6:17:57

All right.

6:17:58

Aye.

6:17:58

Anybody opposed?

6:17:59

Hearing none, the item is approved or R9AC.

6:18:03

Would that be a reso needed?

6:18:04

Rick?

6:18:05

Yes.

6:18:05

So this will be an after-the-fact reso.

6:18:07

Okay, thank you.

6:18:10

Call C7S.

6:18:18

C7 S is approved amendment one to agreement with LSF municipal trolley system.

6:18:25

C7S was separated from the consent agenda by Commissioner Suarez.

6:18:32

C7S.

6:18:33

Commissioner Suarez.

6:18:34

Thank you.

6:18:34

So can you go over some of the finances, Jose?

6:18:37

On this uh the public is aware.

6:18:41

Sure, sure.

6:18:42

I'd be happy to.

6:18:43

Good afternoon, Mr.

6:18:44

Mayor, Commissioners.

6:18:45

Jose Gonzalez, Transportation and Mobility Director.

6:18:48

So this this item before you is a resolution that approves an increase to the hourly rate of our trolley service during what we call the transition period.

6:19:01

The transition period is that time under the new contract, under our new Trolley contract, whereby we're still using the current trolley vehicles until the new vehicles are delivered and placed into service.

6:19:18

That is a transition period.

6:19:20

What this item does is it accounts for uh higher costs in terms of maintenance in uh insurances, repairs, just inflation over the past almost six years.

6:19:33

It's been about six years since there's been any type of rate increase with regard to our current process.

6:19:42

What's the inflation of the last six years?

6:19:43

I'm sorry?

6:19:44

What has been the inflation in the last six years?

6:19:46

It's calculated it's been about twenty five percent.

6:19:51

And what this item does is based on um months-long negotiations with the vendor, we've settled on a 15% increase to the current hourly rates, which we feel is fair and reasonable considering.

6:20:06

Correct me if I'm wrong.

6:20:07

I don't think the national inflation rate has gone up by 25 percent.

6:20:11

The CPI.

6:20:12

The calculated CPI has uh was calculated to be about 25 percent since 20 uh let's see, 2020, I believe was when the yes, since 2020.

6:20:28

Okay, but does it you just when it you just said that the contract started in 23?

6:20:33

What or you you're gonna do that?

6:20:35

This rate would apply to the current vehicles, and if you recall that contract is about a decade, it's about a decade old.

6:20:43

So annualize what is this amount to in terms of dollars?

6:20:46

So for this fiscal year, the net fiscal impact is approximately 950,000 for a full 12-month period, it's approximately 1.4 million dollars in addition to the is that going to be would that apply to year 27, fiscal year 27?

6:21:08

This increase would apply immediately, as soon as as it's approved.

6:21:14

And would only be in effect during the transition period.

6:21:17

Once the new vehicles come in and are placed in service, then this rate would no longer apply, and a new rate would apply.

6:21:26

Would it be higher?

6:21:27

It would be higher, yes.

6:21:28

It would be higher than this.

6:21:29

It would be higher than this.

6:21:30

By how much 124.

6:21:38

So the new rate would be 124 19 per hour.

6:21:44

And uh with this, if this item is approved, the rate for the current vehicles would be 87 42 per hour for our high floor vehicles, high floor trolleys, and 100.69 cents for our low floor trolleys.

6:22:07

And then after that.

6:22:09

So these these rates that I just uh stated would be in effect until the transition period expires, and then once it expires and the new vehicles are in, the 12419 uh hourly rate would go into effect.

6:22:23

Okay, I just want to caution my colleagues that you know with the last I think it was the last meeting we passed the rollback rate.

6:22:29

And you know, if this is going to be an additional 1.4 million dollars that's gonna come out of our budget, we really have it's it's gonna have to come from somewhere else.

6:22:40

We're gonna have to take some more money from somewhere else and put it to this.

6:22:45

So I just I want to caution everyone that you know when when something needs more money, so and we're we're gonna stay committed to the rollback rate, it's gonna have to come from somewhere else.

6:22:59

And a million dollars is a lot of money, and it's it's gonna have to be cut from somewhere.

6:23:05

So um I just want to make sure that everyone's aware of that.

6:23:11

Commissioner Magazine.

6:23:12

Uh Jose, don't mean to keep uh beating this horse, but since our budget meeting uh nearly eight months ago, I I think we highlighted we were preparing for a large whole or gap in our transportation funding.

6:23:26

And we talked about um creative ways to raise revenue, we've talked about advertising.

6:23:31

This is completely anecdotal, uh, but I've been paying increasing notice.

6:23:37

And the amount of buses and trolleys we have that are completely unwrapped or completely unadvertised.

6:23:45

One talk about the rates that we're getting, but the fact that they're not even being utilized, and we have perhaps our biggest event schedule in Miami Beach's history occurring right now.

6:23:56

Right?

6:23:57

We're in the middle of it.

6:23:58

We had the college football national championship game.

6:24:01

We have of course our uh prized events like our baseline that recur every year.

6:24:06

We have a new revamped spring break.

6:24:09

We have the World Cup coming up.

6:24:11

We have G20 in a year.

6:24:14

I am really having a hard time believing.

6:24:17

I mean, we just heard they want to advertise on little robots, right?

6:24:23

Little robot delivery things that we can't find better advertising for our trolleys is a way to uh plug some of that.

6:24:30

Um I appreciate you highlighting this, Commissioner Swarz.

6:24:34

I don't know if we're many options.

6:24:37

Uh but it's gonna have to come from somewhere, right?

6:24:40

And uh we've been sounding that alarm for a transportation contract uh for a year, and I I really want to challenge you with two things, Jose.

6:24:51

If the trolleys are stored overnight at an off-slate yard, is that correct?

6:24:57

That's correct.

6:25:00

Then can we get a letter to commission uh by mid-week next week, so you could choose to do it this evening, your staff could do it over the weekend.

6:25:08

Uh how many trolleys do we have and how many are wrapped currently with advertising?

6:25:16

And then also I really need you and your team to come up with more creative ways for which we can raise money to plug some of that because we want to have a robust transportation system.

6:25:29

Um, so let's work collaboratively about how we can bridge some of those funding gaps.

6:25:33

Absolutely, Commissioner.

6:25:34

And one of the things we're doing is we're looking at our entire operating budget and seeing opportunities where we can either cut service, reduce service, or you know, streamline services or eliminate services in some in some cases.

6:25:49

And we're having those discussions as part of our as the city's budget process.

6:25:54

And certainly, you know, let's look internally administratively as well.

6:25:57

Sounds silly, but if there's just that typical government bloat subscriptions, uh administrative functions and things like that.

6:26:05

Uh when we start to cut a billion dollar budget, it shouldn't start with our resident or community-facing services.

6:26:17

We should always reflect within how we can become more efficient, how we can save internally before we ever start touching things that hit our residents and our community.

6:26:31

Commissioner Mate, uh Vice Mayor Mateo Salinas.

6:26:35

Thank you, Mr.

6:26:35

Mayor.

6:26:36

Um so I have an item on this agenda, it's a discussion item because I didn't I really didn't want to clog up the committees further.

6:26:43

I just wanted to have this discussion, but it's item R9AJ, and I you know I've asked the mayor he to call it later.

6:26:50

Um, but it is about doing creative having creative um proposals to generate revenue, and one of them is naming rights.

6:26:58

So once we have that discussion, you know, I'd like to explore maybe that's a way that we can offset some of these costs that we're we're gonna be spending on, and so that way we don't cut so much into resident services.

6:27:12

And I still want to encourage you, Jose.

6:27:14

Um, and I just remembered this, so forgive me, but um I I feel like the trolley service is actually quite utilized, and I'd like to see you know some numbers of recent numbers this year of last year, um, and whenever that can be done.

6:27:30

Um, but we'll talk about that.

6:27:32

So we'll talk about that offline.

6:27:33

Thank you.

6:27:34

Thank you.

6:27:35

Thank you.

6:27:40

I'll move the item.

6:27:45

You have a second?

6:27:46

Okay.

6:27:47

We have a second for the Vice Mayor.

6:27:49

Approving it.

6:27:49

I have a motion and a second.

6:27:50

I have a motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Vice Mayor Mateo Salinas on C7S.

6:27:55

All in favor, please say aye.

6:27:56

Aye.

6:27:56

Okay.

6:27:57

Anyone opposed?

6:27:58

Hearing none, the item is approved 7-0.

6:28:00

Thank you.

6:28:02

R7Y R7Y is approved settlement agreement with Suntex Marina Investors, amendment 5 to lease agreement.

6:28:13

That's my item.

6:28:14

I want to give a nice shout out to um our police department, our code enforcement.

6:28:21

There was a lot of steps taken here to the big picture to clean up uh kind of the some of the chaos we were having at the marina.

6:28:30

Give a shout out to Sofna, South Effect Neighborhood Association, who uh was very active in reaching out to all of us up here, and we took legislative steps, but of course, uh, with the enforcement tool.

6:28:40

So good job all around, and now we'll get to this item regarding the settlement.

6:28:45

Good afternoon, Mayor, Commissioners Ozi Dominguez, uh Division Director of Asset Management for the City of Miami Beach.

6:28:52

Uh so uh R7Y uh is reviewing the OIG report or the OIG audit on the marina.

6:29:01

There were several items that were identified in the OIG audit, which uh Suntex Marina did respond to.

6:29:09

Uh over the last few months, city staff had the opportunity to meet and discuss these items with Suntex, and uh we have reached a settlement agreement with them, uh which we wanted to present today for review, discussion, and approval.

6:29:25

Uh there are a couple of items on the OIG report which actually were already settled or or taken care of, cleared up.

6:29:34

Uh some of those include the BTRs that were not in place.

6:29:38

The the marina and its uh slip owners have their BTRs in place.

6:29:43

There was a sales tax sales tax discrepancy uh on behalf of the city that was overbilled to Suntex Marina, and that credit has been issued.

6:29:52

The uh the agreement or the settlement that we have come to terms with with Suntex Marina uh include the following items.

6:30:01

Uh the marina has agreed to provide the city with a thousand square feet of office space in their upland property.

6:30:09

Those thousand square feet can be used by either police, code, or ocean rescue.

6:30:14

Uh that has a value of fifty thousand dollars a year with an increment or an escalation of three percent per year for the life of the uh the term of the current agreement with the marina.

6:30:24

In addition, uh the city currently has one boat slip that they house uh I I believe it's uh ocean rescue, houses a uh boat there.

6:30:34

The marina will provide the city with two additional 45-foot boat slips.

6:30:39

This has a value of eighty-four thousand dollars a year plus escalations for the term of the agreement.

6:30:46

Currently, the marina agreement allows the city to gain revenue of two cents per gallon on fuel.

6:30:54

The marina has agreed to increase the two cents per gallon to six cents per gallon.

6:30:59

That's a estimated annual revenue of fifty-six thousand dollars per year in the first year.

6:31:06

In addition to that, we will amend the definition of gross receipts as stated for the upland property operating expense reimbursements to the marina, which was identified in the OAG report.

6:31:17

The operating expenses are basically out-of-pocket expenses by the landlord that are built back to the upland tenants.

6:31:24

And unfortunately, the current agreement does not specify that that is not considered revenue or profit center for the marina.

6:31:31

It's a reimbursement for their out-of-pocket expenses.

6:31:34

So that definition or that verbiage is going to be cleared up in the agreement.

6:31:38

Uh we're also going to be making revisions to the verbiage on parking revenue, where 35% of gross revenue collected, less any bad debt will be uh will be going to the city.

6:31:55

And in addition, and lastly, Suntex Marina has agreed to contribute 240,000 to the city towards the Marine Patrol Dock Improvement Project over in Marie Skipp Park.

6:32:07

This has a total value for the term of the lease of over $9 million, and a present value of about $4.6 million.

6:32:15

Mr.

6:32:16

Mayor.

6:32:16

Commissioner Suarez.

6:32:19

Um since the Inspector General was the one who had some issues with this, I'd like to make sure we have your blessing on this, Joe.

6:32:28

Um another thing that I wanted to make sure that it's clear.

6:32:32

You know, I've I've had many residents come with me over the last couple of years and say, hey, look, we're trying to get a slip at the Miami Beach Marina.

6:32:41

And the wait's two years.

6:32:44

Um I think there should be a policy that if you're a Miami Beach resident.

6:32:50

You get ahead of the line for whatever boat slip or size that you're asking for.

6:32:57

Um since it is our marina.

6:33:02

Um is that something that you can work into this deal?

6:33:06

Uh yeah, I do believe that Miami Beach residents already have first dibs at the slips, so I need to check on that again, Commissioner.

6:33:15

And if you I'd like to see the language in that it's not a language in the agreement, so we can definitely work it into agreement.

6:33:22

I think it's a policy that the marina currently upholds.

6:33:25

So I'll double check that and work it into the what's to say they remove that policy.

6:33:29

I'd like to make sure that it's part of this uh negotiation and current agreement.

6:33:35

So with all take it away, Joe.

6:33:38

All right, uh Joseph Sanorino, Inspector General, uh Mayor and Commissioners.

6:33:42

Um, first of all, the uh OID did not play any role in the in the negotiations.

6:33:48

That's the city administration's role to they they had our information, they had our report, and they engaged in negotiations.

6:33:56

From what and I we've gone over the you know the uh the settlement and spoken to them, and and as we went through the that process, uh I did I was in touch with people in the administration.

6:34:06

Um you know I uh it's I can I can conclude that it was a very good faith negotiation by the city.

6:34:13

Um and they did get some significant uh uh some significant convention uh uh you know concessions by the by the by the marina and and the value of them I think is significant and uh and substantial.

6:34:27

Um the unfortunate thing, of course, is I and I pointed this out, we put it out in the report because of the lack of oversight or during the course of the of the marina's operations, it did put the city in a difficult position, I think, in terms of negotiations.

6:34:41

So that's something I'm hopeful is going to be corrected going forward.

6:34:44

Um I was uh particularly impressed that they were able to get an increase in the uh in the gasoline uh um because that that's that's been that's embedded in the contract, and there's no way that that the city could change that, but they did get a concession raising it from two cents to six cents.

6:35:02

And I thought that was uh uh impressive.

6:35:04

I thought so uh on the whole, I would I would say it's uh you know it it uh from what we can tell it was it was a good negotiation, and uh we certainly think the administration did well with it.

6:35:15

Okay, so right does this our vote does this finalize an agreement that you have before us?

6:35:21

No, we have not um finished the draft of the agreement.

6:35:25

Okay, we're waiting to present, get some direction or approval, and then we can move forward.

6:35:30

If I may jump in.

6:35:32

So the resolution is drafted, does approve the extension terms of the agreement and does not require coming back to commission for approval of the settlement.

6:35:42

So if that's something, Commissioner, that you would like, you would need to amend the response to include to present the new the revised amended agreement for review to commission.

6:35:54

The amendment to the lease.

6:35:55

And there's a representative here from Centex who has no issue with putting our residents to the front of the line and inserting some language into the contract.

6:36:04

So that it would have to come back for us to approve if it is the commission's will.

6:36:09

I have a question about that.

6:36:10

Commissioner Fernandez.

6:36:12

So right now we have about 40 charters.

6:36:15

There and there are Suntex has about 40 charters.

6:36:18

Is that accurate?

6:36:19

I believe they're down to 30 charters.

6:36:21

30, correct?

6:36:22

Okay.

6:36:23

And so with this amendment, which I think is great, it's this is a public marina, should be the preference and the first use should be for the residents and the taxpayers who own this public marina.

6:36:37

It should be for the use of the community.

6:36:39

I think it's horrible when we have residents and they want to be able to have a boat and they got to go to Miami or to other parts.

6:36:48

So the preference should be for our residents.

6:36:52

With the proposal that Commissioner Suarez has mentioned, once a commercial dock becomes available because someone left one of those 30 commercial docks, then the preference would be the priority would be a resident before it going out to another charter.

6:37:09

That is correct.

6:37:10

100%.

6:37:11

No, we can charter by each of those.

6:37:17

Do you want to come up?

6:37:18

Correct.

6:37:18

Michael.

6:37:20

It goes to private and firefighter Greco.

6:37:23

Not yet, don't jinx it.

6:37:25

Um good afternoon, everybody.

6:37:26

Michael Greek on behalf of Suntex.

6:37:28

I'm pretty sure don't hold me to it, but I know that historically what we've been doing over the last couple of years is when a when a charter gives up their slip that we're converting it to private.

6:37:40

And then right now, the marina has approximately 15 percent of the private slips are Miami Beach residents.

6:37:47

And we already have a policy in place where we give first right of refusal to Miami Beach residents before we send it out to market.

6:37:56

Um there is a significant waiting list.

6:37:58

So all that we would be doing with this minor amendment would be codifying a policy we already have.

6:38:03

Yeah, we'd like to tie that into the talk about it.

6:38:07

I think that that is it makes sense.

6:38:09

Yeah, that's fine.

6:38:10

For any slip.

6:38:13

So including the charter as someone is moving on, you know, it's it doesn't matter if you're not gonna be able to do that.

6:38:17

Any any private slip that becomes available will a preference will be provided.

6:38:21

Wet slip, dry slip.

6:38:23

Yep.

6:38:23

Okay.

6:38:24

That's it.

6:38:24

He spoke to you, but I didn't.

6:38:26

Yeah, no.

6:38:26

That's it right.

6:38:27

Unlike catching people by surprise like that.

6:38:30

That's good.

6:38:31

So it'll have to so I would like to propose, I'd like to move this as amended for it to come back to us with an updated agreement.

6:38:40

Okay, let's call a vote.

6:38:42

Neither second second.

6:38:44

Second.

6:38:46

Motion as amended by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by the mayor.

6:38:50

All in favor of C7S as amended, please say aye.

6:38:52

Aye.

6:38:53

Aye.

6:38:53

Anyone opposed?

6:38:54

Hearing none, C7 has is approved as amended.

6:38:59

RC7S.

6:39:00

R7Y.

6:39:01

R7Y.

6:39:03

R7 or Y.

6:39:04

Yep.

6:39:05

R5S.

6:39:15

Oh.

6:39:16

R5Y.

6:39:18

I'm sorry, we're doing now.

6:39:20

Gee, wait, write it down.

6:39:22

Yeah.

6:39:24

R5S is an ours of the mayor and see the city commission of the City of Mary Beach in Florida amending chapter 90 of the code of the City of Many Beach.

6:39:31

Uh entitled Solid Waste by Amending Article 3 and title collection and disposal by amending division two and title collection by amending section 90-97, thereof entitled garbage collection services to modify the threshold number of units of multifamily residences for purpose of determining whether solid waste must be collected and disposed by a single family waste contractor or a franchise waste contractor.

6:40:00

And by amending Article 4 entitled private waste contractors by amending Division 4 and title specialty contracts specialty contractors by amending the subdivision 2 entitled Roll Off Portable Waste Container Contractors by amending Section 90-278, thereof entitled fees or requirements, penalties for non-payment to modify the threshold number of units in a multifamily residence applicable to a potential exemption from obtaining a site-specific instructional demolition collection permit and the payment of construction and demolition collection fees upon compliance with certain criteria for consistency with the amendments to Section 90-97 and providing for repeater subability calification and effective date.

6:40:27

This is a first reading.

6:40:28

It is item R5S.

6:40:34

Madam Vice Mayor.

6:40:38

Commissioner Fernandez.

6:40:39

Thank you, Mr.

6:40:40

Mayor.

6:40:40

So right now, residents are in units in buildings of 9 to 16 units kind of find themselves in this difficult expensive situation where they're usually too small to negotiate a favorable contract with private waste haulers.

6:41:02

Buildings less fewer than nine units, those up to eight units, they're part of our residential residential garbage collection.

6:41:14

But the moment you go beyond nine units, you have to negotiate your own contracts, and you're they're usually too small for favorable contracts with these with these private waste haulers, which means that they pay um more for service.

6:41:34

This would put this ordinance would put those units nine to sixteen unit apartment buildings, uh condominium buildings as part of the uh residential uh waste collection um program.

6:41:50

And Mr.

6:41:51

Director, um correct me if I'm wrong, this is going to yield significant savings uh for the majority for a great majority of these buildings.

6:42:00

Is that correct?

6:42:01

Yes, sir.

6:42:02

John Norris, public works director, that is correct.

6:42:04

Based on our analysis, the vast majority of customers would see a significant decrease in their monthly costs for solid waste.

6:42:13

And we saw some samplings of some numbers, some some buildings might be getting up to $1,900 uh in savings, a lot of them over for sure over a thousand dollars in savings on uh on on a monthly uh basis.

6:42:28

And we are talking about these small buildings, a thousand dollars, nineteen hundred dollars on a monthly basis.

6:42:37

Those are real big numbers and significant savings that we can pass along to to our residents.

6:42:45

Mr.

6:42:45

Director, would it be possible to allow owners of these uh multifamily structures, whether they be at apartment buildings or condominiums, to opt into the program on an annual basis?

6:42:58

From an administrative standpoint, I don't see an issue.

6:43:02

The only question that I would have would be the legal side of it, especially as we negotiate this into the waste connections residential contract.

6:43:12

Typically, when solid waste contracts are negotiated, it involves a finite number of units, and that's updated annually from the tax rolls typically.

6:43:22

So that would be my only concern.

6:43:25

But administratively, I think we could do that.

6:43:28

Well, it'd be great as between first and second rating if we could find a way uh in which in which these nine to sixteen uh unit apartment buildings uh if they want to opt out and have their own individual contract, then they opt out.

6:43:43

But if we don't hear from them, they're just part of our uh residential program.

6:43:48

We help these oftentimes these are self-managed um associations.

6:43:54

Uh they don't have professional management, they don't have brokers.

6:43:57

Oftentimes um these are mom and pop landlords who are in sophisticated or buildings that are passed on from generation to generation.

6:44:07

We can help it make it easier for them and hopefully save costs that get passed down to the tenants.

6:44:14

Uh, when we were talking about the dividend, uh about the return of the surplus, there was a lot of discussion.

6:44:21

Well, what are you gonna do for tenants?

6:44:23

What are we what are we gonna do for people who are at homesteaded?

6:44:26

Well, this is one of the things that we can do, finding ways where in our structure of how we operate our services, we can identify not a one-time dividend check, but actually a continuing and recurring saving on a monthly basis that hopefully these condominium associations will pass that saving on to their condo owners uh by means of their other fees, or better yet, the landlords passing on that savings down to their tenants.

6:45:00

So with that, I move the item.

6:45:02

Commissioner Dominguez.

6:45:04

Yeah, I had a similar um amendment that I would like to make.

6:45:08

So between first and second reading, if we can make sure that all multifamily residences between nine and sixteen units would be able to apply annually to have the waste collected by the single family waste contractor.

6:45:23

Happy to email it to you.

6:45:24

No, that that's fine.

6:45:26

We can certainly do that.

6:45:28

Just work on the language.

6:45:30

But I want to make sure it's that through the mayor is that again, them some of these being buildings that are self-managed, people who you know have other jobs and all that, and this is not their full-time job, that if they don't you know opt out, that they're automatically part of the residential program that's going to save them money.

6:45:51

If I may ask for clarification, is the idea that multifamily residential units between nine and sixteen would have to opt in or would have to opt out of the current of the new opt in.

6:46:06

Well, my intent is for them to opt out.

6:46:09

Okay, well that so that if so that so that if they don't and and I'll uh you know, whatever you think is best.

6:46:16

But what I want I want the default to be that we're gonna help these these tenants, these condo owners save money by having their buildings automatically be part of the residential waste agreement.

6:46:29

But if the buildings choose not to, because they want to negotiate their own contract, that then they opt out.

6:46:35

But the default I want it to be to be able to help them save money and automatically be part of this residential waste agreement.

6:46:44

Commissioner Fernandez may ask a question.

6:46:46

Yes, of course.

6:46:46

If they opt out initially, can we just put it on them to contact us if they want to opt in in the future?

6:46:53

So we're not doing an annual.

6:46:54

Yeah, I'm fine with that.

6:46:55

Is that okay?

6:46:56

Yeah, of course.

6:46:56

Okay, yeah.

6:46:57

And happy to work with you at the city administration, happy to have a sunshine meeting with Commissioner Dominguez, uh, so that we can iron out concerns.

6:47:05

But any opportunity that we have to save people money.

6:47:07

I mean, thank you for putting together the list.

6:47:09

It was really very impressive.

6:47:10

The amount of money we'll be able to save our residents.

6:47:13

You're welcome.

6:47:15

Great.

6:47:15

Thank you.

6:47:17

So with that, I move the item.

6:47:18

Second.

6:47:19

Call vote.

6:47:20

It is a public hearing, and I have Mr.

6:47:22

Johan Moore requesting to speak.

6:47:24

Go ahead, sir.

6:47:27

Good afternoon again.

6:47:29

Uh I cannot emphasize how important this piece of legislation can be for Palomingo Park neighborhood.

6:47:37

My own uh building, not condo, the condo covers two lots.

6:47:42

My own uh building has eight units, six of which are rather small.

6:47:46

What that means is that an average lot that has two floors uh and is a contributing building in my neighborhood will be covered.

6:47:57

Uh and that applies to the great majority of contributing buildings in the historic district.

6:48:04

Thank you.

6:48:05

Thank you.

6:48:05

Is there anyone else in the audience who wishes to speak?

6:48:08

If not, Mr.

6:48:08

Seraldo, you're up on item R5S.

6:48:13

Yes, hi.

6:48:14

This is Daniel Sarraldo, and you know, I did have my hand up and I sent emails when I was being mentioned on the prior item, and nobody responded.

6:48:23

Um, but just briefly I want to say that any investigation should be allowed to continue, and then allegations should be made.

6:48:30

It was very alarming to see uh commissioners making allegations about me and MDPL without any evidence.

6:48:38

And uh we'll deal with that in another venue.

6:48:41

Uh but thank you for letting me speak.

6:48:43

Bye.

6:48:44

Anyone else seeing none?

6:48:46

Public hearing?

6:48:50

Thank you, Mitch Beerman, on behalf of waste connections with uh offices at uh 2800 ponds and Coral Gables.

6:48:57

I just wanted to point out that you also have an item R90 on your agenda, which is discussion item on waste that might be uh relevant to the discussion you're having now.

6:49:07

Thank you.

6:49:08

Thank you, Mitch.

6:49:09

Another mention.

6:49:10

No, but I was dozing off.

6:49:12

How is this gonna impact me?

6:49:14

I uh on a nine-unit building in the flamenco park neighborhood.

6:49:21

This should impact you favorably.

6:49:23

Okay, and how how will that work?

6:49:26

So we'll have to look at the individual building, see what you're currently paying, and show you what you would pay under the residential plan.

6:49:34

We have done an exercise where we've taken a sampling of buildings throughout the city and shown the savings based on that sampling.

6:49:42

Okay.

6:49:42

So we're happy to sit down with you or waste connections, be happy to sit down with you and figure that out.

6:49:47

It is waste connections at the moment.

6:49:49

Thank you.

6:50:00

And Mitch, and if for whatever reason you are in one of the odd situations where you're not seeing a savings or or if putting you into the residential program affects a larger contract that you may have with other properties, that's why you know we would be contemplating giving you the opportunity to opt out so that then you can negotiate your own because there might be individual landlords like yourself.

6:50:15

You might have the small building, you might have another small building that is that is the case.

6:50:20

Exactly.

6:50:21

And so this could give you that flexibility.

6:50:23

If you so choose, stay in what we're offering to you as part of the residential and get savings, or if it's better for you, you can opt out from that.

6:50:31

Just looking for savings.

6:50:32

Thank you.

6:50:32

There you go.

6:50:34

Thank you, Commissioner Monica Anton, on behalf of James Kavanaugh.

6:50:38

Thank you for that amendment.

6:50:39

We really appreciate that.

6:50:40

Um representing a single single building owner is one thing.

6:50:46

But when you have an owner that has multiple buildings throughout the city that are individually owned by separate entities, the city is not aware of that, right?

6:50:54

You look it up and you see one entity and you think they're they're having a great deal, you're reducing the price for one building.

6:51:00

But when this individual has a number of buildings throughout the city that they negotiate broader contracts, it may impact them negatively if they cannot negotiate for all of their structures and all of their buildings at once.

6:51:11

So we really appreciate the ability to allow these owners to opt in or opt out to whatever the uh city attorney uh deems best for the city.

6:51:22

But as long as they have the ability to make their own choices as it relates to their buildings, we appreciate.

6:51:28

Does that the mayor?

6:51:30

Commissioner Suarez, is this opt-in and opt-out all only apply to the next tier of uh condominiums?

6:51:39

For example, right now it's one to four, correct?

6:51:42

It is two to eight.

6:51:44

Well, one to eight units would go on the residential contract.

6:51:48

With this, it would be nine to sixteen would be at the right.

6:51:52

So what if there is someone under um under eight or under four?

6:51:57

Does this does this apply to what if I own a fourplex and a twelve unit building?

6:52:03

Uh, would I be if now I own a four plaques, would I be able to opt my four plaques out of the residential contract to be able to negotiate a better deal with I don't know, 24 unit building that I have.

6:52:17

I think if we change this ordinance to include two through sixteen and put some language in there to allow them to opt out, but currently this only addresses nine to sixteen.

6:52:30

We can modify the ordinance the way that the body wishes to do so.

6:52:33

So if the body wants to allow anything over one unit to opt out currently, as you know, two to eight is is automatically part of the uh single waste hauler contract.

6:52:45

So it's up to you all.

6:52:47

Maybe maybe we could have a sunshine meeting to talk about that with the city attorney or with the public works director to see you know how would that work.

6:52:55

I don't know if the contract right now, if our residential waste agreement currently requires us to keep uh one through eight units uh as part of that contract.

6:53:08

I you know, I don't know.

6:53:09

I don't I don't know that we can make that decision here right now.

6:53:12

Let's work on that between first and secondary commissioner.

6:53:14

I'd like to have a sunshine meeting with you.

6:53:20

I removed the item.

6:53:21

Second.

6:53:22

That's amended or proposed to be amended.

6:53:24

And there's no one else requesting to speak.

6:53:26

May I call the roll?

6:53:27

Yes.

6:53:28

This is as amendment, amended, uh motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Suarez.

6:53:33

Commissioner Bott.

6:53:34

Yes.

6:53:35

Commissioner Dominguez.

6:53:36

Yes.

6:53:36

Commissioner Fernandez.

6:53:38

Yes.

6:53:38

Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas.

6:53:40

Yes.

6:53:40

Commissioner Magazine.

6:53:41

Yes.

6:53:42

Commissioner Suarez.

6:53:43

Yes.

6:53:43

Mayor Minor.

6:53:44

Yes.

6:53:45

Motion carries item R5S is uh approved for first reading as amended.

6:53:50

Second reading public hearing is scheduled for February 25th.

6:53:53

That was item R5S.

6:53:55

It's called R9O related item.

6:53:57

R9O is discussed waste hauler hybrid option for residential commercial waste collection.

6:54:01

R9O.

6:54:03

So, Mr.

6:54:04

Mayor, thank you for calling this companion item.

6:54:07

Um bless you.

6:54:09

Uh the most impactful portion of this was the item that we just heard as first reading of the ordinance.

6:54:17

Um, and that will basically pave the way for us to move forward with an RFQ for the new franchise agreements.

6:54:28

Um, if would be amenable of this commission if we could get that direction so that we can start preparing that, and then the RFQ would come back to you at a uh future meeting.

6:54:49

Rick?

6:54:50

I'm sorry, I missed something I had stepped out.

6:54:53

May you repeat the question.

6:54:54

Sure, sure.

6:55:00

amenable of this commission if we could get that direction so that we can start preparing that and then the RFQ would come back to you at a uh future meeting Rick I'm sorry I missed something I had stepped out may you repeat the question so R90 is a discussion on the um commercial waste hybrid option which is the taking the nine to sixteen units putting them into the residential contract and then moving forward with the RFQ for the um the waste hauler franchise agreements um since we've moved forward with the 9 to 16 option I was only asking if we could continue to move forward with the remainder of the waste hauler solution yes you can okay fair enough we'll bring it back next month or the following that's all you need that's all I need sure when I arrived here in 88 I believe there was seven waste haulers uh and now we're down to two uh it would be great if you can consider just one more so it doesn't seem like uh uh there's a monopoly uh thank you so that's that's the intention of moving forward with this is so right now the ordinance caps it at five but you're correct we currently only have two and we want to have a few more that would be great thank you we good okay let's call um we have two Sun tech su marina related items let's just close the loop these should be quick R9W and R9X and Mr.

6:56:25

Mayor there's also R9W is discuss update of Miami Beach Marita lease agreement audit by inspector general R9X discuss commercial vessel pickup drop off at marina uh Bambi Beach Marina and and Ralph there's R9M too R9N discuss take action update of municipal prosecution M?

6:56:44

M is in Mary.

6:56:45

Sorry discuss take action enhanced measures to remediate charter vessel issues at Miami Beach Marina.

6:56:51

Right so as to R9W we that's already addressed that's that's duplicative.

6:56:58

And then R9X which is the pick up and drop off I know Mr.

6:57:03

Mayor you and I spoke about this I spoke with uh Commissioner Suarez as well just for the the the rest of the commission again Michael Greeko on behalf of Suntex the commercial vehicle pickup and drop off has been a concern especially the return uh when the when they return to the slips so what Suntex has already agreed and what we've already been doing over the last couple of months is in docks JK and H, which are the southernmost docks that have charter vessels and they're the ones that are adjacent to the yacht club and to the Murano at Portofino what we do is we require those charter vessels upon their return to go to the fuel dock as opposed to returning to their individual boat slips.

6:57:43

So this way they go to the fuel dock they go straight over to 300 Alton which is the Monty what what is lovingly called the Monty's building and then they are picked up by vehicles there and we already have the vehicle drop off at drop off end pickup at 300 Alton.

6:57:59

So we've already taken those remedial measures at the direction of the mayor so we want to make sure those were those were addressed and if there's any other issues that the commission may have then we're here to address and for Mr Clerk this item that we're discussing right now is R9X.

6:58:21

Okay.

6:58:22

Beautiful Mr Mayor were there any other concerns on the operations that there was three items and that's why we were shuffling back and forth because the three some some of the items were already addressed with the correct uh the R7 item that we presented earlier I think that we've cleared all of them up I know that there was another possible pending discussion on the Uber and Lyft drop offs and that has been cleared up as of three or four months ago and everything there's been no more complaints from residents um especially from the yacht club all of that is uh has been um per the BTR address which is 300 Alton Road that's the official drop off yeah that's why I started off the first item thanking our commission and and our whole team because the complaints we were getting were were fast and furious and we're getting videos and that has completely subsided completely.

6:59:14

So obviously hopefully it stays that way if not we'll uh we'll spring back into action continue to stay on top of that thank you thank you Mr.

6:59:21

Mayor thank you commissioner let's call R5P R5P is an order so the mayor city commission of the city might be shortage amending chapter 70 of the city code entitled miscellaneous offenses by amending article two entitled public faces by amending division three entitled alcoholic beverages by amending section 70 87 and title consumption service sale and possession of open containers and alcoholic beverages on or in public places warning signs required by amending and setting forth exceptions to the prohibition of on consuming serving selling or possessing an open container of an alcohol alcoholic beverage on or in any public place and by amending and clarifying the responsibilities of alcoholic beverage establishments and persons or entities authorized by the city to sell alcohol beverage on on or in any public place regarding the prohibition on allowing any person to take an alcoholic beverage from the the licensed premises or authorized area and protecting the repeater servability qualification and effective and effective date this is the first reading public hearing it is item

7:00:00

Warning signs required by amending and setting forth exceptions to the prohibition of consuming serving, selling or possessing an open container of an alcohol alcoholic beverage on or in any public place and by amending and clarifying the responsibilities of alcoholic beverage establishments and persons or entities authorized by the city to sell alcohol beverage on or in any public place regarding the prohibition on allowing any person to take an alcoholic beverage from the licensed premises or authorized area and protecting the repealer servability calification and effective and effective date.

7:00:27

This is the first reading public hearing.

7:00:29

It is item R5P.

7:00:31

Commissioner Magazine.

7:00:32

Thank you for this, Mr.

7:00:33

Mayor.

7:00:34

You we've spent so much time talking today how we've pivoted away from the anything goes party crowd from the crime and chaos that uh had plagued our city in years past, and how we're focusing on health, wellness in an elevated environment.

7:00:48

Miami Beach, I think we're uh perfectly capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.

7:00:54

Uh this I view as an amenity to our residence or tourism.

7:00:58

Uh this is providing in very limited specific areas that are specified.

7:01:03

And Mr.

7:01:03

Manager, is there uh city staff here to present, or is that through you?

7:01:08

So I can handle this item.

7:01:10

Um I'll go on.

7:01:12

I just uh referring to you for questions.

7:01:14

Um so this will be in a limited area uh where alpha is served by our beach concessions.

7:01:20

Um it will be well regulated.

7:01:22

Uh there will be a lot of uh protocols in place.

7:01:25

We discussed the training that the concessionaire employees would need to uh maintain, well achieve and then maintain.

7:01:32

Uh and also it's a revenue uh right uh raising opportunity for our city.

7:01:37

We talked earlier today how we could have a million dollar funding gap just from that transportation item.

7:01:42

When we look at uh what's happening in Tallahassee, we're looking at an unprecedented strain that we can't even begin to fathom the effects that that will have on our budget if there's some type of uh elimination, removal or alteration of homesteaded taxes.

7:01:58

So this is a way for our city to generate revenue.

7:02:00

Uh we've been very budget focused because of that discipline.

7:02:05

We're sending back $500 checks to residents, right?

7:02:08

How great is that for the first time in 20 years?

7:02:10

We're sending back $500 to every homesteaded resident.

7:02:14

And we talked about creative ways to raise uh revenue.

7:02:18

And like I said, because we are in a much different place right now than we were five years ago.

7:02:24

This really provides us a great opportunity to continue elevating that beach experience in a limited number of ways.

7:02:30

We see this across the board in some of the most uh high-end sophisticated markets in the world.

7:02:36

Uh in Europe, in Saint Drew Pay, along the beaches in uh the south of France, the south of Italy.

7:02:41

Um so, like I said, despite pivoting away from the uh where we were years ago in spring break and focusing on health and wellness, we can walk and chew gum at the same time, allow an elevated experience that's in a limited number of locations uh for alcohol consumption on the beaches that is well regulated, well maintained, and bringing in a significant amount of money and revenue for our city.

7:03:10

Move the item.

7:03:11

I'll use the item.

7:03:12

Second.

7:03:13

Call the vote.

7:03:15

It is a public hearing.

7:03:16

I see no one in Zoom, no one in the audience requesting to speak.

7:03:18

I have a motion by Commissioner Magazine, seconded by Vice Mayor Mateo Salinas.

7:03:22

If there's no discussion, I will call the roll.

7:03:25

Uh Commissioner Dominguez.

7:03:26

Yes.

7:03:27

Yes, forwards.

7:03:29

Okay, got it.

7:03:29

Commissioner Bach.

7:03:31

Yes.

7:03:32

Commissioner Swarez is a yes.

7:03:34

Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas?

7:03:35

Yes.

7:03:36

Commissioner Magazine?

7:03:37

Yes.

7:03:37

Commissioner Fernandez?

7:03:38

No.

7:03:40

Mayor Minor.

7:03:42

Yes.

7:03:43

Motion carries.

7:03:44

Second reading public hearing is scheduled for February 25th.

7:03:50

Thank you.

7:03:51

Call R7 O.

7:03:54

Yes.

7:03:54

I'm sorry, Mayor, I couldn't hear you.

7:03:56

Sorry, R7O.

7:04:00

R7 O is on Rainbow Crosswalk and Loomis Park, R7O.

7:04:06

So this is a simple replacement of the rainbow crosswalk that was torn up at the request, the mandate of our state government government.

7:04:19

Easy for me to say.

7:04:29

Donated their services pro bono to the city to come up with a um a very understated way to honor the crosswalk by flipping it almost exactly into the park in Limit Park.

7:04:44

Um it's not going to add more paving per se to the sidewalk.

7:04:49

Um it is going to replace existing pavement with these pavers, and there'd be grass in between.

7:05:00

Um there are potential plans for a um uh an extension of this initial um layout, but we have the pavers.

7:05:06

It is um not just literally a crosswalk, but the the shape of the crosswalk will be should have I should have thought to um bring the image that would have made life much easier.

7:05:14

But um the the crosswalk will be extended so it's a true full rainbow.

7:05:19

Um the corners will be made up of the actual broken pavers.

7:05:24

Um we happily have quite a number of the papers that were um palletized once they were removed, so we don't have to create more papers.

7:05:31

We also have papers left over.

7:05:33

It is a small cost to to do this.

7:05:36

It's basically our staff to um to pull the permits and do the installation, and this is a hot topic for a couple of reasons.

7:05:44

One is that um you know, I was there the evening that the um pavers were ripped out, and the number of people who stopped by and were emotional and distraught tourists were saying we may never come back to Miami Beach.

7:06:00

This is such a um devaluing of who we are as a community, and um I would say that that we is obviously the LGBTQ community, but it's all of us, it's the entirety of the Miami Beach community.

7:06:16

I mean, the the reason why it was done in the colors it was done originally was to pay respect to Leonard Horowitz who was instrumental in helping revive the Art Deco neighborhood with his color palette.

7:06:29

Um it is symbolic for so many people for so many different reasons, and it is critical that we get this approved here and now so that the city administration can move forward and have it be in place in advance of our April Pride month so that we can celebrate and um reclaim our our proud um advocacy for all of the communities who make Miami Beach home.

7:06:56

With that, I'll move it.

7:06:57

Mr.

7:06:57

Mayor.

7:06:58

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:06:59

Thank you, Mr.

7:07:00

Mayor.

7:07:01

Yep.

7:07:02

With all my heart, I want to thank Commissioner Bod uh for sponsoring this resolution, Commissioner Matil Salinas for co-sponsoring uh this item uh because preserving the legacy, reinstalling our rainbow crosswalk, using these salvaged pavers.

7:07:23

Um it's about visibility, it's about dignity.

7:07:27

So it's as you mentioned, it's about recognizing how emotional this was and sending a message to our LGBTQ community and to the world about who we are.

7:07:39

But what makes this especially meaningful is that this effort is being advanced by straight allies on this commission.

7:07:48

It's easy for for me as an openly gay man to sponsor this, but it means so much more.

7:07:54

And the message is so much stronger when it's you, our straight allies who come together uh to demonstrate kindness, to demonstrate support uh to demonstrate your alleyance uh allegiance.

7:08:08

So thank you so much uh on the on behalf of our community for doing this.

7:08:13

I fully support your efforts.

7:08:17

And um and when colleagues who themselves are non-members of the LGBTQ community step forward to carry messages like this, it truly does send a powerful signal and message.

7:08:30

So thank you, Commissioner Bond.

7:08:31

Mr.

7:08:32

Mayor.

7:08:32

Commissioner Magazine.

7:08:34

I think this is uh really piggybacks on our comments this morning of being in the most welcoming inclusive uh community in South Florida in the United States.

7:08:42

I think that's something we're all proud of.

7:08:44

So I'll move your item.

7:08:45

I'll uh I'll co-sponsor that.

7:08:47

Thank you.

7:08:48

I second it.

7:08:49

And I'll co-sponsor as well.

7:08:51

Let's call the vote.

7:08:54

Uh a motion by Commissioner Magazine, seconded by Commissioner Bott.

7:08:58

All in favor of the item R70, please say aye.

7:09:01

I'm aye.

7:09:01

Aye.

7:09:02

Anyone opposed?

7:09:04

Hearing none, the items are proof 7-0.

7:09:05

I heard close.

7:09:06

I'd like to co-sponsor too.

7:09:08

So co-sponsorship requests by Commissioner Dominguez.

7:09:11

I believe I heard Fernandez, and I heard one more.

7:09:14

Who was it?

7:09:15

A magazine?

7:09:16

Co-sponsor?

7:09:19

Thank you.

7:09:20

That's R70.

7:09:21

R7X.

7:09:24

R7X is pre-K scholarship program increase, R7X.

7:09:30

This is being sponsored by Commissioner Suarez and I.

7:09:34

Commissioner.

7:09:35

I'll join us well.

7:09:38

Me three.

7:09:39

Okay.

7:09:40

This should be an easy one.

7:09:42

Just for anybody watching, you want to explain it, Commissioner Suarez.

7:09:45

You want me to give a brief you go for it?

7:09:47

So this is a program we implemented several years ago.

7:09:49

The state of Florida has a VPK program for pre-K student scholar uh scholarships for uh students who are going to non-public public schools.

7:10:00

Doesn't have it's it's open to any private school, and we have uh individuals in Miami Beach from uh really a broad spectrum of individuals who who apply for and gain from this.

7:10:09

We were the only city, and I believe we still are the only city in the state of Florida that offers this program in addition to what the state offers is a $3,000 scholarship.

7:10:19

Last year we closed the loop, the the shortfall.

7:10:22

This year we had not during the budget process.

7:10:25

So we had 192 people who were awarded the 3,000.

7:10:29

We had 37 individuals who were waitlisted.

7:10:32

This would close that shortfall of 11,000.

7:10:35

So everyone who applied and is eligible would receive the funding.

7:10:39

It's a great program.

7:10:40

Uh so looks like we have a full almost full co-sponsorship.

7:10:45

So thank you.

7:10:48

How about motion?

7:10:49

And just a quick question how do we get the word out about this program?

7:10:59

Good afternoon.

7:11:00

I'm Leslie Rosenfeld, Chief Education and Performance Officer.

7:11:03

So we're actually in our fourth year.

7:11:05

We have currently uh 29 pre-K provider partners, and we work uh throughout the year to ensure that every resident is informed that this opportunity exists.

7:11:17

We work with our existing partners.

7:11:19

We've work we work with the um uh early learning coalition and the state's department of uh children and families to ensure that the information is uh all over the community so that uh our community is aware, and then anyone contemplating a move to Miami Beach who may be eligible is aware as well.

7:11:38

It's very consistent with our theme of uh of promoting people to stay here and to move here in a in a great place where we offer first class education, um and this is uh just another tool that we we offer, and I think it's uh it's been very well received by the uh by Miami Beach community.

7:11:59

And St.

7:11:59

Patrick's has a pre-K program?

7:12:02

Yes, they do.

7:12:02

Okay, because I think on the list that you shared with me, I didn't see St.

7:12:07

Patrick's there as one of the schools.

7:12:09

They are currently not a partner, however, the application to be a partner is available and open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, and we encourage any eligible pre-K provider to enroll and partner with the U.S.

7:12:27

Let's work together as I want to engage with St.

7:12:30

Patrick's.

7:12:31

They have a very big school here in Miami Beach.

7:12:34

And it just stood out to me.

7:12:36

Uh a lot of wonderful schools, even schools outside of Miami Beach, you know, are benefiting from this.

7:12:43

I would want to make sure that the students of our PK program here in St.

7:12:48

Patrick's are also able to participate in this program.

7:12:52

So we might need to we've met with um Father Sid and and uh leadership at the school.

7:12:57

We invite them every year to join us, as do families that apply and win our scholarship and would like to use it at St.

7:13:03

Patrick's.

7:13:04

So St.

7:13:05

Patrick's as well as any other pre-K provider are um welcome to partner with us.

7:13:10

So do you know why St.

7:13:11

Patrick's hasn't applied?

7:13:13

We invite them every year, we encourage their partnership, as do members of their um of the uh so let's let's just work together to proactively.

7:13:24

Let's work together in reaching out, letting them know hey, listen, the programs here we've noticed that you haven't applied because in order for parents and families to benefit from it, you need to be a part of it.

7:13:33

Of course.

7:13:34

So let's if you don't if if if the body wouldn't mind, uh I'd like to work with the administration in proactively doing that outreach.

7:13:41

Those are a lot of families, a lot of Catholic families here in Miami Beach that we want to make sure that they are afforded the same opportunity to participate in this program.

7:13:51

So maybe we just need to walk them through the process or educate the school a little bit better on how to qualify.

7:13:57

No, I'm glad you're I'm glad you're highlighting that, Commissioner Fernandez.

7:14:00

Um I I remember it was several years ago.

7:14:03

It wasn't St.

7:14:03

Patrick's, I don't remember the school, but I remember there was a school that was invited, and they and I recall hearing a reason why they didn't want to participate.

7:14:11

Is there any I don't know if that applies to St.

7:14:13

Patrick's.

7:14:14

Is there a reason why a school wouldn't want to participate?

7:14:17

I think that the school site administration there's there's been different reasons throughout the years when a family, because the families ultimately choose uh where they want to send their children, and so if the school that they are selecting doesn't want to participate, sometimes it is uh a staffing issue.

7:14:37

Uh they already have other programs in place.

7:14:40

Uh they may not want to um be involved uh with the process we have in place for reimbursement.

7:14:48

There's there's been different reasons over the years.

7:14:50

Uh some of our families have been quite persuasive in um convincing the schools that they would like their children to attend to join us.

7:14:58

Uh that's the reason we are up to 29.

7:15:01

So um we certainly can reach to uh St.

7:15:04

Patrick's uh and any other school that parents are seeking um access to for our scholarship.

7:15:10

Let's work together.

7:15:11

Let's work out together reaching out to the St.

7:15:13

Patrick's being number 30.

7:15:15

Maybe.

7:15:16

There you go.

7:15:17

Okay, thank you.

7:15:18

Thank you.

7:15:20

I'll move it.

7:15:24

Motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner Bott on R7X.

7:15:28

All in favor, please say aye.

7:15:29

Aye.

7:15:29

Aye.

7:15:30

Anyone opposed?

7:15:31

No.

7:15:32

Uh the item is approved, 7-0.

7:15:34

And just for the record, I heard Commissioner Bott Fernandez and Dominguez requesting to co-sponsor the item.

7:15:39

As am I?

7:15:40

Commissioner Magazine.

7:15:44

So again, the Vice Mayor as well.

7:15:47

Okay, so everyone is co-sponsoring the item.

7:15:49

Perfect.

7:15:49

Excellent.

7:15:54

Let's call R5E and R5F together.

7:16:04

R5E.

7:16:06

R5E is an order to the mayor of City Commission of the City of Mayor Beach, Florida, amending the city of May Beach Year 2040 comprehensive plan pursuant to the expedited state review process set forth in section 163.3184 subsection three, Florida statutes.

7:16:18

Amending goal R U1 entitled Res Resilient Land Use Development Objective R L U 1.1 entitled Establishment of Future Land Use Categories Policy 1.1.7 High Density Multifamily Residential RM3 to establish a 5,000 square foot floor area ratio FAR bonus for the RM land use category for ocean front properties within the Faina overlay district that contain a contributing historic structure and providing for inclusion in the comprehensive plan transmitter repealer servability on an effective date.

7:16:47

That is item R5D.

7:16:48

It is a second reading public hearing.

7:16:50

It's companion item R5F is an order to the Mayor City Commission of the City of Bambi Beach, Florida, amending the code of the City of Mambi Beach, sub Part B entitled land development regulations by amending Chapter 7 entitled zoning districts and regulations, Article 3, entitled Overlay District, subsection 7.3.5 entitled Faina District Overlay to provide a 5,000 square foot floor area ratio bonus for ocean of properties that are 65,000 square feet or larger and contain a contributing historic structure and providing for applicability, repeater servability codification and an effective date.

7:17:20

This is item R5F.

7:17:22

It is a second reading public hearing.

7:17:23

The item requires six seven spokes.

7:17:26

I think I heard a motion from Commissioner Fernandez with a second from Commissioner Dominguez.

7:17:31

Commissioner Magazine.

7:17:33

Sometimes I I don't think we really uh promote the amazing things that are going on in the city.

7:17:38

And this area here.

7:17:40

Uh this will be the American Riviera in several years.

7:17:44

Right.

7:17:44

We have some of the most prized properties in the entire world.

7:17:50

Including the Sherbrooke.

7:17:52

Okay.

7:17:52

Um along this area.

7:17:54

One to get Mitch's nod of approval.

7:17:57

Uh but truly, we have the Shure Club being renovated.

7:18:00

We have new owners of the Delano moving that project forward.

7:18:03

We have uh the SLS that's under renovation right now.

7:18:09

And we have the Faina, which has just been such a tremendous asset to our city, the Amman, the Bulgarie, Casa Criani.

7:18:17

This will be one of the most prized coveted areas in the entire world.

7:18:22

And I think it's you know appropriate to embrace that to celebrate that.

7:18:27

And while we have the project sponsor here, my question to you is what's the update?

7:18:32

What when can this get done?

7:18:34

When can we expect uh these projects to really start filling in, activating our ecosystem, activating our economy, and being our uh kind of crown jewel.

7:18:43

Thanks, Commissioner Magazine, and uh thanks to the fellow commissioners.

7:18:46

Uh the mayor, we um are very excited that progress if you've been by the site um at 3425 Collins Avenue is well under construction.

7:18:54

Um and uh we plan to open the hotel by the end of 2027 and open the residences in the summer of 2027.

7:19:00

Um we are getting closer and closer now.

7:19:03

I can say it's actually next year, uh, which is hard to believe.

7:19:05

Um but uh the progress we just poured the eighth floor of the residences on Monday, in fact.

7:19:10

So it will top out this summer.

7:19:12

In Chris, for the record if you can say your name.

7:19:14

Sorry, Mabel Patel with OCO Group, um and uh which is uh developing the Amon hotel and residences uh 3425 Collins Avenue.

7:19:21

Thank you.

7:19:22

Thank you.

7:19:23

Exciting.

7:19:23

Thank you.

7:19:24

Thank you.

7:19:26

So we have a motion from Commissioner Fernandez, second from Commissioner Dominguez.

7:19:29

It is a public hearing.

7:19:30

I see no one in Zoom and no one in the audience requesting to, or do I?

7:19:36

Call a vote.

7:19:37

Mr.

7:19:38

Novick is Mr.

7:19:39

Novik want to commend the development team for the uh very impressive uh job they're doing.

7:19:46

Just the question regarding the language.

7:19:48

The project has already been approved.

7:19:51

Why a 5,000 uh whatever it is, uh why why why a bonus?

7:19:58

What am I missing?

7:20:00

It's the it's not a bonus, it's interior space as if I make through the mayor's interior space that exists that is being repurposed as usable space, but it's not adding volume square footage to the building, Mr.

7:20:14

Director.

7:20:14

Is that correct?

7:20:15

That's correct.

7:20:16

Okay.

7:20:17

So since you're making it into usable space and it's no longer it's not gonna count, uh it's going to count against FAR.

7:20:25

Exactly.

7:20:25

Got it.

7:20:26

Thank you.

7:20:29

See, I see no one else in Zoom.

7:20:31

Oh, I actually see Daniel Seraldo.

7:20:33

Please go ahead, sir.

7:20:39

Mr.

7:20:39

Sraldagar.

7:20:40

Yes, hi, Daniel Serrado, resident of Miami Beach.

7:20:43

Uh, just want to put on the record that our city charter had a referendum requirement that would have put this a vote uh to the voters, and that was removed by the state in 2023, HB 41.

7:20:58

And so it's very unfortunate because once again control of zoning should stay with the voters, should not be with commissioners, should not be with the developers.

7:21:09

And we must gain back that referendum ability because we're seeing more and more.

7:21:14

I heard the Raleigh also has an FAR increase proposed.

7:21:17

So let's take back our city.

7:21:19

Thank you.

7:21:21

Let's see, no one else, sir.

7:21:23

Right.

7:21:24

Let's call the vote.

7:21:25

This is both on item R5E and R5F.

7:21:28

Vice Mayor Mattel Salinas.

7:21:30

Yes.

7:21:31

Commissioner Suarez.

7:21:32

Yes.

7:21:33

Commissioner Bott.

7:21:34

Yes.

7:21:35

Commissioner Magazine.

7:21:36

Yes.

7:21:36

Commissioner Fernandez.

7:21:38

Yes.

7:21:38

Commissioner Dominguez.

7:21:39

Yes.

7:21:40

Mayor Minor.

7:21:41

Yes.

7:21:41

Motion carries both items are approved.

7:21:45

We'll call R5B and R5C together.

7:21:54

R5B is the north of the Mayor City Commission of City by Beach, Florida amending the city by beach year 2040 comprehensive plan pursuant to the expedited state review process of section 163.3184 subsection three Florida statutes by amending the resilient land use and development element goal RLU1 entitled land use objective RLU 1.1 entitled establishment of future land use categories and table RLU 1.1 to conform to table RLU 1.1 with the amended floor area ratio FAR regulations for each respective future land use category by amending policy RLU 1.1.6 entitled medium density multifamily residential RM2 policy RLU point 1.1.9 entitled medium intensity commercial C D2 policy RLU 1.110 entitled high high intensity commercial C D three and policy RLU 1.128 entitled general mixed use commercial performance standard CPS 2 to provide FAR and density incentives to encourage the development of non-transient residential uses and the conversion of existing transient uses to non-transient residential uses for applicable properties located on Washington Avenue by amending objective RLU 1.2 entitled land use regulations to amend policy 1.2 point eight entitled residential use incentives to amend the minimum standards for obtaining the FAR and density incentives set forth in this ordinance providing for codification repealer servability transmitted and an effective date that was item R5B is a first reading public hearing its companion item is R5C which is an ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city by beach Florida amending the Mandy Beach Resiliency Code by amending chapter one entitled general provisions article two and title definitions with section 1.2 point one title general definitions by amending the definition of floor area and creating that definition for micro mobility station by amending uh chapter five and title off street parking article two and title vehicle parking bicycle parking and off street loading requirements at section 5.2 point four and title vehicle off street parking requirements by amending the parking requirements for parking tier two by amending chapter 7 and title zoning districts and regulations article one entitled general to all zoning districts by amending section 7.1.11 entitled residential use incentives to establish residential use incentives specific to properties fronting washington avenue from 5th street to 17th street by amending article two entitled district regulation of section two point section 7.2 point five and title rm two residential multifamily medium intensity that's subsection 7.2.5 point five entitled mid beach residential use incentive rm two to establish residential use incentives specific to properties and applicable rm two zoning districts by front fronting washington avenue from 6th street to 7th street by amending section 7.2.11 entitled C D2 commercial medium intensity district that's subsection 7.21 point five and title Washington Avenue C D two to modify existing development regulations specific to properties fronting Washington Avenue and to create a residential incentive area specific to Washington Avenue by amending section 7.2.12 entitled C D three commercial high intensity district recreating section 7.2 point twelve point five entitled Washington avenue residential incentive area cd three to create a residential incentive area specific to Washington Avenue by amending section 7.2.15 and title performance standard district PS that's subsection 7.215.3 entitled commercial performance standard district CPS to create a residential incentive area specific to Washington Avenue and provide for codification repealer servability on effective date this is a first reading public hearing this item requires six sevenths vote that was R5C Commissioner Suarez and co-sponsor Commissioner magazine that was the longest that must have been the longest we should put that clock

7:25:05

PS that's subsection 7.215.3 and title commercial performance standard district, CPS to create a residential incentive area specific to Washington Avenue and provide for codification, repeal or subability on effective date.

7:25:18

This is a first reading public hearing.

7:25:20

This item requires six sevenths vote.

7:25:22

That was R5C.

7:25:23

Commissioner Suarez and co-sponsor by Commissioner Magazine.

7:25:26

That was the longest.

7:25:27

That must have been the longest.

7:25:29

We should put that clock on you.

7:25:30

Yeah.

7:25:32

Good job, Ralph.

7:25:36

Colleagues, before I walk through this presentation, you know, I want us to take a step back and uh and talk about what we're really trying to do here.

7:25:45

The status quo in Washington, undeniably is a downward trajectory.

7:25:51

You know, we've tried surf surface level fixes like landscaping, lighting, tree wrapping.

7:25:57

Um those help, but they do not change the fundamentals.

7:26:02

Today we still see vacant storefronts, foreclosures, homelessness, nuisance businesses, and an overconcentration of adult oriented uses in smoke shops.

7:26:15

In a roughly one mile stretch, there are more than 35 vacant or neglected storefronts.

7:26:21

That is not a thriving corridor.

7:26:24

And the hard truth is, no one goes to Washington Avenue as a resident.

7:26:29

That should concern every one of us.

7:26:32

The last time the city meaningfully updated its comprehensive zoning and urban planning approach for this corridor was 1989.

7:26:44

I was five years old.

7:26:46

Cities do not stand still for decades and somehow improve.

7:26:51

They either adapt or they decline.

7:26:55

At the same time, we need to be honest about a much bigger issue.

7:27:00

Great cities around the world embraced mixed-use urban planning.

7:27:04

People live above shops.

7:27:06

Streets are active day and night.

7:27:09

Neighborhoods are designed for live, work, and play, not just for cars and not just for tourists.

7:27:16

Miami Beach has not kept up when it comes to housing for people.

7:27:21

Young professionals, families, seniors, and the workforce that keeps this city running.

7:27:26

Nearly 90% of our city staff do not live in Miami Beach, with many more commuting more than an hour each way just to get to work.

7:27:36

That is not by choice.

7:27:38

It is because that is where the housing they can afford is located.

7:27:43

When cities fail to build attainable housing, people are pushed farther and farther out.

7:27:49

Commutes get longer, traffic gets worse, and development pressure moves outward.

7:27:55

That is why growth ends up near the Everglades.

7:27:58

Not because it makes sense, but because housing closer to jobs has been blocked.

7:28:05

That is also why the state passed the Live Local Act.

7:28:08

When cities do not allow enough housing, the state steps in and overrides local zoning authority.

7:28:17

That may increase housing somewhere, but comes at the cost of local control and environmental protection.

7:28:24

Urban scholar Richard Florida said it best.

7:28:32

People who earn too much to qualify for affordable housing, but not enough to afford market rate housing.

7:28:40

This proposal chooses a better path.

7:28:43

It is commission-driven.

7:28:45

Urban planning, not developer-driven spot zoning.

7:28:50

It brings residents back to Washington Avenue, supports businesses year-round, improves safety through activity, reduces long commutes, and builds housing where infrastructure already exists.

7:29:04

So the question is simple.

7:29:07

Is Washington Avenue a corridor we are proud of today?

7:29:11

And if the answer is no, are we willing to lead?

7:29:15

This is our re this is our opportunity to reimagine Washington Avenue as one of the greatest streets in Miami Beach.

7:29:23

A place people live, walk, work, and belong.

7:29:28

A street built for residents, not just visitors.

7:29:31

That is the vision behind this presentation.

7:29:33

And PJ, if you could please put it up.

7:29:38

Okay.

7:29:39

Go to the next slide, please.

7:29:40

So I wanted to believe it or not, there was a resident and a business owner who sent me most of the images, and he took the time to go through all the vacant storefronts and neglected businesses on Washington Avenue.

7:29:56

And I want to just go to the current state of affairs on this corridor.

7:30:00

As you everyone knows, we still have Club Madonna there.

7:30:03

We have pornographic store, litany of smoke shops, uh tourist traps, and that is what is that is what's prevalent in on Washington.

7:30:15

You go to the next slide.

7:30:18

And you can keep going through the slides, PJ.

7:30:20

I just want to get it.

7:30:21

I just want to have everyone see that these are all vacant storefronts on Washington Avenue.

7:30:30

You can keep going, PJ.

7:30:32

Unfortunately, it's very long.

7:30:36

Because this corridor has been neglected for almost a decade.

7:30:47

Go to slide 15 when you can, PJ.

7:30:51

So what is the problem?

7:30:53

The problem today is Washington Avenue has lots of hotels and lots of retail.

7:30:58

Very few people actually live there full time.

7:31:01

When tourists leave, the street goes quiet.

7:31:05

Empty streets equals struggling businesses and safety issues.

7:31:09

The state steps in when cities don't build enough attainable housing.

7:31:13

And like I said, Miami Beach hasn't delivered a major attainable housing initiative since 1989.

7:31:20

Next slide.

7:31:24

So I had our planning director do an analysis of the last uh 10 years on what has been constructed in Miami Beach.

7:31:38

Believe it or not, it's almost two to one, where there's double the amount of hotels and then residential units.

7:31:48

And of the 749 residential units, only 30, only 229 have a unit size between 650 square feet to a thousand.

7:32:02

Only a hundred less than six hundred and fifty square feet, with the majority being over a thousand square feet.

7:32:09

And interestingly enough, most of them is coming from Five Park.

7:32:15

Okay, next slide, please.

7:32:18

So what is mixed use?

7:32:19

Mixed use, very simple.

7:32:21

Shops and restaurants on the ground floor, apartment condos above, people live where they shop and eat.

7:32:27

You know, this is how real neighborhoods are built.

7:32:30

It's very simple to look at South of Fifth with the Cosmopolitan as a prime example.

7:32:36

In fact, the cosmopolitan gave birth to a billion dollar company, which is Pure Vita.

7:32:43

That happened on the ground floor, and it is I believe a global company now worth a billion dollars.

7:32:51

Started as a mixed-use uh business.

7:32:56

Next slide.

7:33:00

More residents equals more eyes on the street.

7:33:03

Safer streets day and night.

7:33:06

Businesses gets customers year-round, not seasonal.

7:33:09

And higher quality retail replaces low quality uses, as what we see right now on Washington Avenue.

7:33:17

We've seen this work in Miami Beach, like I said.

7:33:19

Next slide.

7:33:23

Those are improved because people live there.

7:33:27

Same idea here, just much lower scale.

7:33:30

Single use zoning is a thing of the past.

7:33:34

You can ask our director here, you can ask any urban planning professional.

7:33:40

Mixed use is what makes a city fraud.

7:33:44

Next slide.

7:33:45

So I want to go over some of the some of the details, and I'll have Tom take it away soon.

7:33:50

Right now, you can build to 75 feet for transient use.

7:33:58

But you can only build to 50 feet if you want to build residential.

7:34:02

I want to invert that.

7:34:03

I want to say I would like to have 50 feet max for hotel use and 75 feet max for residential.

7:34:13

And there would be an extra height provision as an incentive if the residential is car-free.

7:34:20

This encourages attainable housing for the forgotten middle.

7:34:24

No more transient hotels.

7:34:27

Okay, keep going.

7:34:29

There is a provision for the north end of Washington Avenue, and I'll have a representative from Paul Sayhouse who owns the property there of why they would like to have a 75 feet bonus height for their property.

7:34:46

But for the majority of Washington Avenue, it would only be a 25 feet bonus height if certain incentives are met, and that is going to uh be further explained by our planning director.

7:35:00

Next slide.

7:35:02

Who is this for?

7:35:03

Like I said, this is for the forgotten middle, young professionals, families, people that actually work in the city of Miami Beach.

7:35:09

We have over 2,000 employees, people who want to live in Miami Beach without needing a car.

7:35:15

It creates a real live work entire ecosystem.

7:35:20

Next slide.

7:35:22

So now I'm interested to hear what my colleagues here have to say.

7:35:27

But if you look at Google Maps, yeah, around 4:35 o'clock, you see a lot of people leaving Miami Beach.

7:35:38

It's on 41st Street, it's on the MacArthur.

7:35:41

And why is that?

7:35:43

That's because people are leaving their jobs and they're going home.

7:35:49

The idea that I have here is that I want to make I want to incentivize housing that doesn't require parking.

7:36:00

And it may seem counterintuitive that you want to have more density for people that actually live here, but the more parking spaces you build means more cars that are going to live on Miami Beach.

7:36:13

And we're trying, and my with this proposal, I'm trying to change that change that.

7:36:33

Also, it's a lot less expensive for market rate housing when there is no parking space available.

7:36:43

Next slide.

7:36:46

So built-in safeguards.

7:36:48

Um this is going to be for non-transient residential, no hotel conversions, no short-term rentals.

7:36:56

Uh that'll be baked into the covenant.

7:36:59

The minimum lot size for preventing overbuilding.

7:37:03

Incentives are temporary.

7:37:04

And this is important because this gives the landlords who are thinking about building attainable housing a seven-year, or right now it's six years, um time period to take this.

7:37:23

So it removes the speculation on their property.

7:37:26

We're not going to be over-inflating their value automatically by passing this.

7:37:31

It's it's you have to act on this immediately, or the the ordinance expires.

7:37:38

Uh and the city stays in control.

7:37:42

So, next slide, please.

7:37:44

So we've got some built-in uh neighborhood protections.

7:37:47

Okay, we have the setbacks still apply.

7:37:50

Um, the buildings must fit the surrounding context.

7:37:53

Historic preservation board review is required.

7:37:57

Um, you know, we have right now an incentive for hotels on Washington Avenue, and the two that come to mind is the Good Time Hotel and the Moxie, and both are struggling right now, especially the Good Time Hotel.

7:38:12

And in fact, if you look at the Good Time Hotel, I believe 90% of the retail space below is unoccupied.

7:38:21

Uh and it they're going through some serious financial struggles where their only revenue stream really is a rooftop entertainment.

7:38:33

So we we want to change, or I would like to change the uh the incentive from residential from transient to residential.

7:38:44

Next slide, please.

7:38:46

Unlike the state of Florida coming down and telling us what we need to do for zoning, we set the rules.

7:38:54

There's no special zoning, there's no spot zoning for particular developers.

7:38:59

This is real urban planning.

7:39:01

It's high-level policy written by us, and the developers follow the rules, and they don't write them.

7:39:09

Okay.

7:39:09

Uh next slide.

7:39:12

Better than a state preemption.

7:39:14

The Live Local Act overrides local zoning authority, then the city blocks attainable housing.

7:39:20

As we all know, live local is a one-size-fits-all.

7:39:23

This plan delivers attainable housing through the city policy, not state override.

7:39:28

This is for one of our most struggling corridors.

7:39:31

Infill housing reduces urban sprawl and protects Miami Dade County's wetlands and farmland by building where infrastructure already exists.

7:39:40

Next slide.

7:39:43

Now I believe it or not, I actually didn't reach out to any of these organizations.

7:39:47

They uh were nice enough to support the this initiative, including the MBU, so be safe, ADNA, the Washington bid.

7:40:00

It was unanimously recommended by the planning board, and it's supported by the city administration.

7:40:07

Okay, the final takeaways, last slide, please, PJ.

7:40:12

We want to plan first, bill second, no spot zoning, no developer giveaways, housing where it belongs.

7:40:21

We set the rules, and it's for neighborhoods, not speculation.

7:40:27

Um you could take down the slide, PJ, thanks.

7:40:32

So, Tom, take us a little through the history of this proposal.

7:40:37

Um, and maybe mention as the planning director for the city of Miami Beach for 30 years, why you're supporting this.

7:40:48

Um I've been with the city for over 30 years, but only the planning director of 12.

7:40:53

Okay.

7:40:55

Um when um when Commissioner Suarez approached me about this almost two years ago, and I remember it distinctly because I was at a national planning conference in Minneapolis, and we had a lengthy conversation about Washington Avenue, and one of the things that is promoted at length nationally in terms of urban planning is mixed use, is particularly in urban areas, introducing residential in a way that can be used without vehicles, uh utilizing transit.

7:41:24

And so one of the things that I had mentioned to Commissioner Suarez was that um Washington Avenue has never been approached um comprehensively in terms of incentivizing residential.

7:41:39

Um, even though there has been a very small residential bonus of 0.5 in place since 1989, nobody has been serious about building residential.

7:41:51

In fact, um almost 12 years ago in 2017 and 2015 when there was a task force uh regarding Washington Avenue, staff had recommended that incentives also be provided for residential, and the task force disagreed at the time because they wanted to see hotels.

7:42:09

They thought Washington Avenue was better suited for commercial.

7:42:12

Our argument at that time was that if you add residential, you'll have more people 24-7 that can utilize spaces morning, midday, and in the evening.

7:42:24

And the only way to really do that is to have an infusion of residential.

7:42:28

So you have to do that.

7:42:29

So Tom, you recommended at the time that there be more of an incentive for residential, and this task force uh decided not to do that and incentivize more hotel development, correct?

7:42:42

Correct.

7:42:43

You know, and I think it's important that we play this video uh from that period.

7:42:48

And PJ, if you could play that that video uh to give a little context to the history.

7:42:52

Okay, so uh Daniel.

7:42:55

Yes, thank you, Mr.

7:42:56

Vice Mayor.

7:42:56

Danielle Seraldo, Miami Design Preservation League.

7:42:59

We were very involved in the master plan uh for Washington Avenue participating, it seemed like a very long time uh to get the consensus uh after Mr.

7:43:09

Zaskovich was hired to review all the possibilities on that street.

7:43:14

And at the time, the understanding from that master plan was not to encourage residential on Washington because of the concern that it might um you know have an impact on the entertainment district.

7:43:29

So seeing the there was a workshop and now there's a talk of co-living.

7:43:34

Um you know, it's kind of a new idea that may have some unintended impacts.

7:43:39

And the other thing as far as the height increase is um since that also was in the master plan, it was a height increase just for a hotel is to encourage new hotels, and we're seeing a lot of investment.

7:43:52

And if you go down Washington Avenue, there's a lot some very good beefy projects going on.

7:43:58

But um, you know, maybe between first and second, the HPB could look at it.

7:44:03

Maybe we could get some more like massings, you know, because I know a lot of time was spent during the master plan to try to get the consensus, and I I just don't know, you know.

7:44:14

I think it'd be good to have more information, maybe before second reading.

7:44:19

Thank you.

7:44:20

Tom, I don't know if you have some comments.

7:44:21

You could put it down on PG's.

7:44:23

Um so I want everyone that's watching to know that this idea is a failed idea.

7:44:31

It has failed miserably.

7:44:34

Yeah, Washington Avenue up until recently, when three of us got elected commission and the mayor got elected to the mayor, it was riddled with gunshots almost on all the high impact weekends.

7:44:49

They would literally wash off blood from the streets.

7:44:54

It w it was chaos.

7:45:00

And even to this day, we've done everything we can we could to beautify Washington Avenue.

7:45:05

I mean, if you go down there, the streets are generally clean.

7:45:09

The trees are wrapped in these beautiful light little ornaments.

7:45:15

The landscaping is perfect.

7:45:19

But you still have a bunch of vacant storefronts.

7:45:22

You still have a lot of homelessness.

7:45:24

You still have, unfortunately, you have businesses dealing with homeless people buying and selling stolen bikes.

7:45:33

Okay.

7:45:34

You have you have a place where, like, like I said, residents do not visit Washington Avenue, unfortunately.

7:45:42

And so, Tom, sorry to cut you off.

7:45:45

I think I left you off where you know there was your recommendation from staff about 10 years ago was for more residential.

7:45:56

You were overridden for more transient use.

7:46:00

And we are where we are today with a failed corridor because of that idea.

7:46:05

So if you could please continue.

7:46:07

Sure.

7:46:08

So one of the things that I had suggested to Commissioner Suarez was that there needs to be a more tangible incentive for residential.

7:46:20

And that is a lot more than just a small FAR increase or a little bit of height, but that it should be something that is more substantive but very strategic.

7:46:30

So not just a straight up increase in FAR like we did in town center, that you can do whatever you want with, but something that had guardrails attached to it that would ensure that anybody taking care uh taking advantage of that incentive would be building non-transient residential that would better serve the area.

7:46:51

The other thing I pointed out was that because Washington Avenue is a defined commercial corridor with established transit in terms of bus lines, in terms of the ability to take uh micro mobility, the micromobility network, our trolley network, that even though we did not have a dedicated uh regional transit system on either a fixed rail or a dedicated lane, that I believe that there was enough people that would be willing to use transit that would not need a car, that you could structure such an incentive around the idea of not having cars so that the increase in intensity would not further stress our already constrained roadways.

7:47:35

Um basically this incentive would be for people who are more inherently urban dwellers.

7:47:41

A person who has a vehicle or a couple that has two vehicles that use the car every day, this really wouldn't be suited for them.

7:47:49

This would be suited for the type of person where either they don't have a vehicle, a vehicle is optional, um, and they can utilize transit.

7:47:58

And so the incentives were developed and predicated based upon that theory.

7:48:05

Um it's also important to point out that the um in terms of the aesthetics, the FAR, although an FAR of up to 4.0 is proposed, the maximum height, including the bonus of 100 feet, is fairly constrained, particularly in terms of a large commercial corridor.

7:48:24

There are massing studies that are attached to this proposal that show what these different options could look like.

7:48:33

And because there is going to be a very rigorous historic preservation process attached to each application, which again allows us to retain control, um, these types of buildings, even though they may be taller, will uh have movement, will have articulation, and the HP board will be able to um ensure that.

7:48:55

Um basically, in short, what this does is this attempts to increase the number of full-time residents uh along the Washington Avenue corridor that don't utilize vehicles that would be utilizing transit, that would be utilizing micro mobility in a way that would allow the corridor to eventually flourish with uh daytime as well as nighttime uses and more neighborhood uses.

7:49:21

Um, in terms of the specifics of the proposal, um, as mentioned previously, this is uh an FAR increase that would be specific to non-transient residential uses above the first level.

7:49:33

If somebody wanted to do something different, like hotel or an office building, the FAR increase would not apply to them.

7:49:39

This is solely to incentivize non-transient residential uses.

7:49:44

There would be a minimum micromobility component within the interior of the structure at the first floor to ensure that there was um micromobility opportunities for the residents of the building in order to get the height bonus, they would have to have more of an area network type of micro mobility option that would allow residents with a larger area uh to utilize that.

7:50:00

In order to get the height bonus, they would have to have more of an area network type of micromobility option that would allow residents of the larger area to utilize that.

7:50:11

The minimum unit size or the minimum lot size for an eligible project is at least 13,000 square feet.

7:50:18

The reason for this is to ensure that someone doesn't take a very small lot and create a couple of luxury units and then they get the FAR increase, even though it's non-transient.

7:50:29

This is really meant to promote the aggregation of lots.

7:50:33

And that's also an important component because as you're well aware, Washington Avenue is a corridor that is not a blank canvas.

7:50:42

It's a corridor that consists of existing properties.

7:50:46

It's substantially built out, and there's a um a lot of different property owners.

7:50:51

Aggregating properties for the purpose of purposes of this type of development can sometimes be challenging.

7:50:57

This would provide a further incentive.

7:51:06

So if there's a non-conforming nightclub, if there's a non-conforming type of nuisance use that is no longer permitted, all of that would have to be discontinued as part of the incentive to build the residential, and that would ensure that what is at the first level would be the type of neighborhood uses that we are seeking.

7:51:29

The height bonus uh to go from uh currently the maximum height for residential is 50 feet.

7:51:38

Um the code change would allow you to go to 75, but to take advantage of the 25 foot bonus for a maximum of 100 feet, then you would need to agree to prohibit any off-street parking.

7:51:51

And the reason for that is because what we did not want to see is the height being used for one level or two levels of parking structure.

7:52:01

We'd rather have that be used for the actual residential units.

7:52:05

If you're not taking advantage of the height bonus, you could provide up to 20% of the required parking that would be allowed under parking district number one.

7:52:14

So you could put a limited amount of parking, but if you want the extra height, that extra height really should be for residential units.

7:52:22

Um the project would also have to exceed the micromobility requirements and permit and and uh participate in a public micromobility network.

7:52:33

Um, and then lastly, um, this does have a sunset provision, which is important because one of the things that um this commission would want to do is one incentivize this so by uh including a time frame.

7:52:48

This isn't something where a property owner can say, hey, I've got all these development rights, I'm just gonna sit on it for the next 10 years.

7:52:55

No, there's a fixed amount of time that you have to use this.

7:52:59

Also, it acts as a safety valve.

7:53:02

Um, and in that case, if in three or four years the commission doesn't like what it sees, if people end up taking advantage of this, the commission can just let it sunset, and that would not run afoul of any um state preemptions.

7:53:17

Um that's everything I have to think.

7:53:21

Right now, if they wanted to do a live local on Washington Avenue, what is the height that could be?

7:53:26

So that's a good point.

7:53:27

If somebody, and we have had inquiries about live local projects on Washington Avenue, um, under a live local project, somebody could do up to a 6.375 FAR.

7:53:39

They would be able to provide the parking on site.

7:53:43

And more importantly, the maximum height would be between 300 feet and 500 feet, depending on where they are located.

7:53:51

Basically, if the parcel is within a mile of Alton Gateway where FIP Park is, they can go up to 500 feet.

7:53:58

All the other properties would be within a mile of the convention center hotel site, which is 300 feet.

7:54:04

And under state preemptions, um, we would have no control over that, and there would be no public hearing on that.

7:54:10

They could just submit an application that would have to be approved administratively.

7:54:14

Okay, thank you, Tom.

7:54:15

So, you know, the only other thing that I want to really iron out so that it's full public transparency is where Paul Seyhouse's building is, because I understand that he also has a private application in case this comprehensive zoning plan doesn't go through.

7:54:33

Um, and I want to hear from his representative what why do you need the 75 extra feet in in height as far as to develop this property?

7:54:45

Because look, it's not it's not a an equity firm that owns this property.

7:54:50

Uh it's ambassador Seyos, he's owned it for 30 years.

7:54:54

He he bought it when no one else wanted to invest in Miami Beach.

7:55:00

And he took a risk uh and believed in our city, and you know, when I talked to stakeholders in our city, I I listened.

7:55:09

Um, and that's why I included you.

7:55:12

But I would like you, Cecilia, to explain why you need these extra enhancements.

7:55:17

Yeah, good afternoon, Mayor, Commissioner Cecilia Toretoledo Ackerman LLP.

7:55:21

I represent Ambassador Paul Sejas along with Nissan Castin.

7:55:25

We've been working with Ambassador Sejas for approximately two and a half years in order to redevelop that corner of 16 and Washington Avenue.

7:55:33

He's looked at this property and uh develop redeveloping this property multiple times.

7:55:37

There has been approvals in the past for a buy right project, and simply it just does not pencil out.

7:55:43

We would have to go through a very luxury product in order to redevelop that that corner, and that's not what the city wants, and that's not what Ambassador Paul Sahas wants to develop at this point.

7:55:53

With the buy right um FAR and height that is afforded to this parcel, we can't achieve a reasonable density.

7:56:00

CD3 has the highest density in the city.

7:56:03

You can develop 150 dwelling units per acre, but we just don't have sufficient FAR or height to get even close to that.

7:56:10

So with the incentives that are provided in this legislation and in our private application, should this one not move forward, which allow us a 3.25 FAR and 150 feet of height, we're able to achieve a 210 unit um development, which is 210 apartments in the heart of Lincoln Road and Washington Avenue, which is much needed residential housing.

7:56:30

This project has actually already been presented to the planning board.

7:56:34

We have a CUP approval for this project.

7:56:36

We presented to the historic preservation board.

7:56:38

They have some comments under design that we're working on addressing so we can go back to the historic preservation board.

7:56:44

But we have a real project that's ready to reel about to hit the ground, it has 210 units.

7:56:49

It's much needed housing and what is effectively Miami's downtown.

7:56:53

Um we have letters of support from the Washington Avenue bid, from the Lincoln Road bid, and we're eager to move forward, but without that additional FAR and that additional height, it we just can't do a project.

7:57:04

Now, colleagues, I also want to bring to your attention uh an item.

7:57:07

I uh it was part of the legislation that it was removed.

7:57:11

I think partly because uh our previous Commissioner Rosen Gonzalez um made a point about it.

7:57:19

I wanted to put a Tom, I wanted to put I believe a 1,200 square foot cap on unit size.

7:57:26

We have a minimum.

7:57:28

We don't we we remove the maximum, and I wanted to see how my colleagues felt about this, but you know, right now when we talk about government housing, it's usually based centered around AMI.

7:57:42

And like I said in my presentation, you know, there is a forgotten middle uh where people don't necessarily don't make enough to not qualify for government housing, but not enough for market rate housing.

7:57:55

And I think some of the tools that we could use as legislators up here is to define what we want as a city.

7:58:04

And so, do we want to put it to do we want to pave way for more 2,000, 3,000 square foot units, or do we want to say on average, this is the unit size that we would like to see similar to the Floridian, uh the cosmopolitan, the courts, the Waverly, uh, the Flamingo.

7:58:27

They're there those it seems that those type of developments they're not being built anymore.

7:58:34

It's either government housing based on AMI or ultra luxury at 3,000 plus a square foot uh rate.

7:58:43

And so this sort of gives the ability for developers to say, hey, you're not gonna make a boatload of money, okay, but you'll make some good money, and this is uh a sandbox that we're creating that you guys can play in and work instead of them defining the rules.

7:59:08

So look, um I want to think long term.

7:59:13

I want to see my I would I certainly would want to see Washington Avenue different than where it is today in the next 30 years.

7:59:20

I don't own any property on Washington Avenue.

7:59:23

I have no skin in this game.

7:59:24

I think that this is just good legislation for the future of Miami Beach.

7:59:30

It is a struggling neighborhood.

7:59:32

The old idea that you know hotels on Washington Avenue were going to somehow bring it to life is a failed idea.

7:59:41

And I want to put ideas forward that are proven and true, and supported by our our our city staff and scholars, urban planning scholars around the world.

7:59:55

So look, uh guys, if you if this is not something that that you know I would I would hope that the majority is not comfortable with.

8:00:02

I I understand, but I want to make a good faith effort to really revitalize a corridor that has really struggled in the last couple decades.

8:00:14

Commissioner Fernandez.

8:00:16

Or I mean if Tom wants to clarify something.

8:00:19

I just wanted to clarify one thing.

8:00:21

Um Commissioner Suarez is correct.

8:00:23

We did initially start with a maximum unit size, somehow it was removed.

8:00:28

The administration thinks that's a very good idea, and the planning board actually also recommended a maximum unit size of 13 square feet.

8:00:36

Yeah.

8:00:36

Okay.

8:00:39

Mr.

8:00:39

Mayor.

8:00:40

Commissioner Fernandez.

8:00:41

Thank you, Mr.

8:00:42

Mayor.

8:00:42

So, you know, I I agree we need to revitalize Washington Avenue.

8:00:47

Um my concern is that even with a sunset date, this legislation would immediately reward bad property owners.

8:00:56

And Commissioner, you showed many other pictures of those empty storefronts, um storefronts that are in well-maintained, storefronts with businesses that were that don't represent the caliber and the quality of businesses that we would want to have here, and we would be immediately rewarding uh these uh these bad property owners, in my opinion, with valuable upzoning the moment that this passes.

8:01:22

Uh the market value would be created at second reading when we when we pass this, the entitlements would be usable at second reading once this is passed.

8:01:33

The land value would happen.

8:01:35

Um and Mr.

8:01:37

Planning Director, correct me if I'm wrong.

8:01:39

Uh the requirement is that you need to have a building permit.

8:01:43

But but if you so if you don't have a building permit, the upzoning, you lose the upzoning, but the moment you have a building permit, you have the right, you have that entitlement.

8:01:55

That's correct.

8:01:56

And how difficult is it to keep a building permit open?

8:02:00

I don't want to speak for the building official, but I believe once you have a building permit, you just need to call for an inspection every six months, and then you can maintain that building permit.

8:02:10

Or submit a change, or you know, there's procedural ways, and we've seen it.

8:02:14

I mean, over the your 30 years here at Miami Beach, I mean, is that a common practice that people it is a common practice that people do?

8:02:21

So the market value, the entitlement, uh the van, the land value is being created now at Sunset Provision a few years from now, it doesn't undo the immediate grant of development rights uh given today, and owners who have neglected properties who have affected our city, um contributed to the decline of this corridor, would still receive some very valuable upzoning benefits, the same benefits that a good property owner would get without first demonstrating any performance, any investment, any any public benefit.

8:03:06

I do support redevelopment, I support adding residence, I support revitalizing Washington Avenue.

8:03:13

I like the idea of incentives, and I think it's it all it's it's all how we go about granting granting these these invest these incentives.

8:03:24

Um my concern is that this is a blanket upzoning at a scale that is too intense and too infrastructure intense, too intense on our infrastructure to be good for us right now.

8:03:39

And I just you know, the impact analysis that we have on our agenda makes clear what this legislation actually does.

8:03:47

Um because it's not a modest adjustment.

8:03:49

We're talking about increases of FAR that is up to like a hundred percent increase in FAR from 2.0 to uh 4.0 with a density of 175 units per acre, Tom, is that correct?

8:04:04

That's correct.

8:04:05

All right across the entire area.

8:04:09

Okay.

8:04:09

So it's not tied to a specific project that we're saying, okay, you know, this specific project, you know, they're addressing infrastructure impacts or addressing a number of other impacts to the city.

8:04:21

Um, you know, this is just blank and you know, across the city.

8:04:26

Well, I mean across the corridor.

8:04:28

That area, you're correct.

8:04:29

Yes.

8:04:29

All right.

8:04:30

So let me ask you this.

8:04:31

With 1250 West, how many units that we approve with 1250 West?

8:04:38

I think it was around between 50 and 60 units.

8:04:41

It was it was pretty limited.

8:04:43

Okay, 50 or 60 units.

8:04:46

And with the Duville, how many units do we approve with the Deville?

8:04:51

Uh the Deville, I think was 80 residential units, um and a hundred hotel units or the inverted, but it it was they were very big units and the density was very low.

8:05:03

Okay.

8:05:04

So we're talking about so in total, how many units did we create in total between the two projects and we approve?

8:05:10

Couple hundred at the most?

8:05:11

A couple hundred.

8:05:12

Okay.

8:05:13

According to the impact analysis, this upzoning legislation, how many additional residential units would come out of this upzoning legislation?

8:05:25

So when we did a um an impact analysis for the area, which is required, because it's a large area, we had to take into account the entirety of the area.

8:05:38

And the assumption on the impact analysis was that every single parcel would be developed and built out.

8:05:48

The likelihood of that is pretty remote, but in the event that every single eligible parcel was built out, there's a potential increase of 2400 residential units, 2462.

8:06:02

2,462 residential units.

8:06:07

Yes.

8:06:07

Okay.

8:06:08

So if every parcel was built out.

8:06:10

So with the two separate applications that we approved, it was maybe about a couple of hundred units.

8:06:15

And even there, we were concerned about infrastructure impacts, we were seeking public benefits from the applicants.

8:06:25

In this case, we're talking about 2,400 new additional residential units that could be created with this zoning.

8:06:34

Okay.

8:06:35

And do we know what's the impact on our on our sanitary sewer system?

8:06:42

Um because you know, with 2,400 units, I must imagine there has to be some sort of impact.

8:06:50

In the analysis, there's a potential increase of 900 861,700 gallons of sanitary sewer and 987,216 gallons of potable water.

8:07:04

And that is for that is if every single parcel was built out to the max.

8:07:09

Okay.

8:07:10

So and we have to assume that.

8:07:12

You have to assume that if you're granting people benefits that they're going to use the benefits.

8:07:17

And so we're talking about over 800,000, nearly 900,000 gallons per day of additional sanitary sewer transmission demands.

8:07:29

This same impact analysis says that it is likely that upgrades will be needed in proximity to future development sites.

8:07:37

Now, Mr.

8:07:38

Attorney, let me ask you this.

8:07:40

You know, when we have individual applications, we're able to negotiate public benefits.

8:07:50

I'm sorry, there's people speaking in the audience and it's distracting me.

8:07:53

It's my big distraction, I'm sorry.

8:07:59

Mr.

8:08:00

Attorney, when we do uh individual sites like 1250 West, we're able to negotiate with individual, we can direct the administration to negotiate with individual property owners for public benefits to address situations like sewer or other impacts that we may need to add to address.

8:08:21

Is that correct?

8:08:22

When we do that through a development agreement, that is correct.

8:08:24

Okay.

8:08:25

Now what how is that impacted or affected the moment we have as of rights zoning like this, Mr.

8:08:35

Mr.

8:08:36

Manager?

8:08:36

Uh is this something that you're still going to be able to do the moment someone comes in and says, I want to take advantage of 4.0 FAR instead of 2.0 FAR, will you still be able to have that leverage of negotiating these public benefits to address the infrastructure impacts that we know they're going to happen?

8:08:55

So most likely no, we wouldn't have the ability to negotiate individual development agreements with the properties because they would be as of right.

8:09:03

Okay.

8:09:04

And so and so that's that's a concern that I have.

8:09:08

It's a significant concern because you know these aren't speculative numbers.

8:09:14

They come directly from the analysis that we requested uh from staff regarding this legislation.

8:09:25

Um, and and it tells us, you know, something that we shouldn't ignore.

8:09:31

It tells us that water and sewer uh transmission infrastructure will need upgrades in the proximity of development sites, and we won't be able to negotiate uh benefits for that.

8:09:46

From a governance standpoint, it reminds me a little bit of TCC up in North Beach.

8:09:55

You know, we had this blanket policy, uh, this blanket upzoning policy.

8:10:00

You know, we had this blanket policy, uh, this blanket upzoning policy, and the moment you grant that upzoning, it's impossible to put the genie back in the bottle, and the property owner is entitled to it, and then you have to deal uh with with the impacts.

8:10:16

I would take a different approach, same end goal, but different approach.

8:10:22

Let's identify corridors like Washington Avenue where we want to see reinvestment, and that's signal that we want to see that reinvestment there without losing our leverage and without upzoning and increasing the value of properties artificially for these property owners.

8:10:47

Let's look at corridors like this and say, okay, if you're seeking to redevelop your property up to a certain amount of FAR, and let's say it's at 4.0 FAR, you'll have a more streamlined process.

8:11:03

Rather than a six-seventh vote, you'll have a five-seventh vote.

8:11:08

That way we can still consider case by case applications, and we still keep the leverage that our city administration would need in order to be able to negotiate public benefits that we wouldn't be able to negotiate the moment this becomes asset rights uh zoning and the moment that they get that that that building permit.

8:11:33

That's that would be my suggestion, so that that way the city maintains leverage, or we signal to to the industry that hey, listen, this is where we want to drive development, and we can help you do that through streamlined process rather than going through the six-month FAR process, going through a more expedited process rather than requiring a higher threshold to get it approved, right?

8:12:02

You know, require a smaller threshold.

8:12:04

That way we take a more measured approach and we don't overdevelop an area of the city, and this is in South Beach, and my understanding um correct me if I'm if I'm wrong, we have about 13 million square feet of unused FAR in South Beach.

8:12:20

There was an intensity study.

8:12:22

Well, it's it's being completed, but it was about that much, yes.

8:12:26

About so we have I mean, I mean, I just think about that.

8:12:30

Unused FAR that exists in South Beach, 13 million square feet of unused FAR.

8:12:41

And here we would be doing blanket upzoning that will on top of that create even more FAR for 2400 new residential units for 6100 additional people that even though we're gonna say you can't have parking, we know Miami is a car-driven culture.

8:13:03

You know, people go back and forth between Miami Beach and their jobs and in other in other places.

8:13:08

People are going to need parking.

8:13:10

And most importantly, we're gonna have to look at our the capacity of our sanitary source system.

8:13:16

And I think we should take a more measured approach with something like that.

8:13:21

That way we approve of where the market tells us they have an interest without artificially uh creating an increase in the property value that then can be speculatively used by developers just to transfer property but really not do anything with it.

8:13:42

Um, Commissioner Magazine.

8:13:47

I think a reimagination of Washington Avenue is the most consequential thing that we can do for our city.

8:13:56

I don't care about any other legislation that I've had in the past two years or what I envision going forward, they can possibly be more impactful in so many different facets than this.

8:14:11

And hitting on some of the points that my colleague said, single use commercial corridors are living in when the zoning was created for it in the 1980s.

8:14:24

It is just it's not a way modern cities function anymore.

8:14:30

We all talk about housing affordability.

8:14:33

Every single one of us puts them on the cute flyers.

8:14:35

What have we done?

8:14:37

What have we done?

8:14:38

We talked about it on the planning board, Tanya, Commissioner Bott, right?

8:14:42

Six years ago.

8:14:44

My daughter's mom's moved out of the city, and she can't even live in the same city your daughter goes to school because we've done nothing for housing affordability.

8:14:54

The best and really only thing that we can do is providing infill housing in non-luxury areas, right?

8:15:04

We'll never have attainable housing on the water, right?

8:15:10

We'll never have attainable housing.

8:15:12

So that's why we need to concentrate on non-luxury infill areas.

8:15:16

Tom, I got this analysis from you uh a couple months ago, and I haven't refreshed it.

8:15:23

But we've added in the past 12 years, thousands, thousands of hotel rooms, okay?

8:15:33

Thousands of hotel rooms.

8:15:34

We all are jumping up and down to add an 800 room convention center hotel.

8:15:40

We all put on our silly little hats and throw shovel on, and we're so excited.

8:15:44

And that's great.

8:15:46

It is great, right?

8:15:48

But when we look at non-waterfront residential housing that's been added in the past 12 years citywide, do you know how many units?

8:15:58

Under 200.

8:16:00

Under 200.

8:16:02

Now wonder Tallahassee came and took those decisions out of our hands.

8:16:07

You know why?

8:16:07

We deserved it.

8:16:09

We deserved it in a state within a country that's facing a housing shortage.

8:16:18

A housing shortage.

8:16:21

In 12 years, our cities collectively added 200 units that aren't on the waterfront.

8:16:27

That's disgraceful, right?

8:16:29

And we can change that, right, through comprehensive urban planning.

8:16:33

All the details of no setbacks and part, I don't know about that, right?

8:16:39

I'm not going to beat that to death on first reading.

8:16:41

But what I do know is we can reimagine collectively together, right, from the ground up, not from some developer coming and saying, I've gotten this parcel of land, allow me to do this.

8:16:54

I've sat here and I've watched that happen in our city for the past 10 years.

8:16:58

I'm done with it.

8:16:58

I don't want to approve single applications anymore, right?

8:17:02

I want to build a city.

8:17:04

I want to build a community, right?

8:17:07

Where our kids can grow up.

8:17:10

Do you know Feinbert Fisher?

8:17:13

They're losing students, and didn't they just lose some sort of accreditation certification because they've lost so many students?

8:17:20

Yeah.

8:17:22

They've lost Title I because despite Florida adding all these residents, Miami Beach is seeing a population exodus in large part because some of our most vulnerable residents have nowhere to live.

8:17:35

God bless that I I got my house when I did in 2021.

8:17:42

Maybe some people would prefer that.

8:17:44

That's the point.

8:17:45

But um this can be a comprehensive solution.

8:17:50

I'm not co-signing on the details because I want to work with you on those.

8:17:54

Um my biggest fear is the changes really are around the fringes when we're talking about it.

8:18:02

We've had the hotel overlay district for what uh 12 years?

8:18:07

It's resulted in two projects, right?

8:18:09

And Tom, actually, when Live Local was passed, we actually downzoned a large part of our city, correct?

8:18:16

We had made some modifications to height limits and setback requirements in 2023.

8:18:23

And the reason why we did that, what would have been the point of downzoning if everybody took advantage of the maximum height and maximum density?

8:18:32

Well, they didn't, right?

8:18:33

That's the point.

8:18:34

So while this in some sort of perfect world or imperfect world would result in 2400 units, the chance of that time are zero.

8:18:44

Not remote, zero.

8:18:46

Okay?

8:18:47

The hotel incentives that were provided in 2016 were much more substantial than this.

8:18:52

And this resulted in two projects.

8:18:55

And in fact, we tried getting so cute around the edges.

8:18:58

Setbacks here, you do all this.

8:19:00

What did it result in?

8:19:01

It resulted in trying to squeeze a project into uh financial viability where they can only have 150 square foot hotel rooms, they have to have open air entertainment pool parties just to make that project work.

8:19:15

And guess what?

8:19:16

It's still not working, right?

8:19:18

Because the mortgage is actually in foreclosure, and that's going to really look bad.

8:19:21

If we think Washington Avenue needs to be reimagined now, imagine if one of those hotels goes out of business because right now the the mortgage is on foreclosure.

8:19:30

So we can take so many tools in our toolkit and solve so many problems, right?

8:19:35

Does anybody ever walk on First and Washington and eat a pure Vita and look at the cosmopolitan where there's families there, there's young professionals, uh Gerald and Trish, they're authors, they're prizes of our community, and go, wow, look at that overdevelopment.

8:19:52

Oh, it's a beautiful, beautiful project, and that's what a community is, right?

8:19:57

It's that's that's what creates a community.

8:20:00

And this is where we're going to live in different worlds, right?

8:20:03

There's going to be the Facebook social media world versus the real world.

8:20:07

We're going to get slammed for this on social.

8:20:09

Oh, look at that.

8:20:10

So I don't even know who any of the property owners on Washington Avenue are.

8:20:15

Okay, that's what's making this challenging.

8:20:17

So there's nobody we can go to and say, does this project work?

8:20:20

Does it not?

8:20:21

So we're kind of taking a flyer here and hoping that we can build a community, a corridor from the ground up.

8:20:28

This is going to reduce the traffic in our city.

8:20:32

That's why we have traffic on Alton Road and Washington Avenue, because people need to drive to get there.

8:20:38

They need to drive to do their errands.

8:20:40

Right?

8:20:41

Here, this is a walkable downtown type of community.

8:20:45

It's going to help housing affordability.

8:20:47

That is the number one thing that we all talk about, whether you're Republican, Democrat, nonpartisan, you don't care about politics.

8:20:54

We all know our city needs that.

8:20:56

Our residents need that.

8:20:57

And it's time we put our money where our mouth is with that.

8:21:00

Because we haven't over the past 15 years, and that's where Tallahassee is really come in and remove that from our ability.

8:21:07

So if we want to go up to Tallahassee, which I plan to do this uh session, with a straight face and say live local does not is not the pathway forward.

8:21:18

It is not the pathway forward.

8:21:20

We want our own control.

8:21:23

And we need to make true bona fide efforts to say, please don't do this, because we're going to do that.

8:21:29

And if we don't actually start putting our money where our mouth is, we talk a lot, but we never act on it, then Tallahassee is not going to ever return that confidence in local municipalities and especially Miami Beach that we're going to be a partner in helping solve this housing crisis.

8:21:48

So while I'm not co-signing the the details exactly what this is looking like, I'm going to uh move forward on this uh as a conceptual idea, hopefully work with staff, hear my other colleagues' uh thoughts that we can incorporate this.

8:22:02

Because uh I'm just going to co-sign on the conception.

8:22:06

When you start putting seven cooks in the kitchen, that's where kind of you over-engineer projects to death.

8:22:12

Sometimes it's best government just get out of the way, right?

8:22:16

When we try and be too much and really try and fine-tune this, we get on a point where nothing ever gets done.

8:22:22

And I think that's really where we're at.

8:22:25

So while I love some of the ideas Commissioner Fernandez has, I love some of the ideas Commissioner Suarez has.

8:22:37

But uh if I had to say, you know, the one vision that could really change the things that we all talk about from Miami Beach that we want to move our city in in one direction or the other, I I think it's this.

8:22:50

It's the most substantial thing that I hope I take on during my time of the days.

8:22:54

So thank you to my colleagues for your s uh for your vision on this, for working together collaboratively.

8:23:00

Um excited to see where this goes.

8:23:06

Commissioner Suarez.

8:23:07

Before I before I uh talk to some of the points that were raised, I'd really like to hear some more of my colleagues.

8:23:14

Commissioner Bott.

8:23:15

I know you know we you have an item on this agenda for a study for you know affordable housing in North Beach.

8:23:24

You know, this is this speaks right to the heart of affordability in my beach.

8:23:29

I I really love your input on this.

8:23:31

Yeah, it's not for a study about affordable housing, it's a totally different item.

8:23:35

So I was initially very supportive of this concept, um, and I share my colleagues' um concern about the lack of housing for the missing middle.

8:23:46

I think where I um got concerned, am concerned, is um that it is an enormous swath.

8:23:55

Um to a hundred feet as opposed to 75 feet, which I was much more comfortable with.

8:24:04

Um I don't I'm I mean everybody knows I'm all about micromobility and trying to incentivize that, but the reality is that we need to I I think going from all to nothing is unrealistic.

8:24:20

I have I've always been a vocal opponent of TDRs.

8:24:24

I don't think we have the um the self-control as a community to do that the right way, and so I'm not a fan.

8:24:31

And you know, I have been living in North Beach since 2016, and I saw what happened when we upzoned.

8:24:42

Um, where we went from an agreed, I think it was eight to twelve stories to twenty two stories for the most egregious example, um, with no developer benefits or development agreement benefits rather, um, where you know, I had to have a bit of a hissy fit to get us all to agree to do a um an aqua infrastructure study.

8:25:08

And I've just learned this past week that um that the first findings, not all the findings are in, but that the first findings are that, yeah, in fact, we need to upgrade our our water lines in significant uh capacity.

8:25:21

Um we have 1,439 new units between residential units and co-living units in in North Beach.

8:25:30

And that was done as of right with no community benefits negotiated.

8:25:35

Those developers are not working towards um improving parks or water quality or infrastructure.

8:25:43

Nobody is dealing with the horrific traffic.

8:25:46

And so I am conceptually on board with this concept, but I don't I'm not comfortable with the details the way they are now.

8:25:55

Um I would like to find a way to limit.

8:25:58

And I know you know, Commissioner Fernandez said you need to assume for sake of argument that everybody who is eligible for this um upzoning will take advantage.

8:26:11

In reality, we know that doesn't happen.

8:26:13

I would like to make sure it doesn't happen.

8:26:16

I would like to say not more than three projects, let's say, until we know, and this was what I said about town center, um, you know, with the microunits.

8:26:25

I'm like, yeah, they could they could be amazing.

8:26:27

They could be great for a certain sub segment of the population.

8:26:30

So let's try a building.

8:26:32

How about if we try a building near Mount Sinai or you know, someplace where we've got a an a population center of people who would enjoy living that way, and that obviously didn't fly, so now we have 13 new buildings in an eight by six block area with close to you know 1450 units coming on.

8:26:54

So I as everybody knows, we this is something I also feel very strongly about.

8:27:00

Um, but I think in its current iteration, it has changed a lot since we first started talking about it two years ago.

8:27:08

I think it is too broad and too tall, and um I'm not maybe I'm missing it, but I I didn't see in here that the planning board um recommendations were incorporated in the current um iteration.

8:27:21

And so I I want to support something that addresses the housing for the missing middle.

8:27:29

It is a huge issue.

8:27:31

Um but I I think the way this is currently is too broad, too draconian, and doesn't give us enough limitations, and not limitations, enough control over what what happens so uh okay um I'm really happy that Commissioner Magazine brought up Tallahassee.

8:27:56

Okay, because this actually came up in Dallahassee last year.

8:28:00

PJ, if you could play the video, please.

8:28:03

Alex Fernandez, I serve as a commissioner in the city of Miami Beach.

8:28:07

I appreciate the opportunity to speak today regarding HB 943.

8:28:11

And first I want to thank Representative Vicky Lopez for meeting with us yesterday and for her willingness to hear our concerns and to work with us through those concerns.

8:28:22

While we have serious reservations about certain provisions in the bill, I'm grateful for the respectful dialogue and the opportunity to provide input.

8:28:30

In Miami Beach, we're deeply committed to creating housing for the missing middle, those increasingly being priced out of our community.

8:28:37

And we've taken thoughtful, a thoughtful local approach to this challenge.

8:28:42

One of my colleagues is advancing legislation to allow increased heights for non-luxury housing along more than one mile of Washington Avenue, one of our major commercial corridors.

8:28:55

I'm sponsoring zoning legislation to bring attainable housing to our iconic and historic Lincoln Road.

8:29:01

These local initiatives eliminate outdated parking mandates.

8:29:05

They increase unit counts and expand housing opportunity for those in the in the missing middle, those who don't qualify for workforce but who are being priced out of our communities.

8:29:17

And those are our nurses, our teachers, our professionals who are being pushed out.

8:29:22

And together these housing policies we're advancing locally could result in over 3600 new residential units.

8:29:31

All within floor area ratio and high limits that respect the scale and the character of Miami Beach.

8:29:39

And that's why we're concerned about the bill's preemption of local height and FAR standards, as well as provisions that eliminate supermajority voting thresholds for height and FAR changes.

8:29:52

And the reason why we're concerned with with that is that that will directly impact our historic districts, our our decal collection of buildings.

8:30:04

Bring it in, I'm sorry, your past time.

8:30:06

Thank you.

8:30:06

Well, those are low-scale uh districts that could potentially be replaced with buildings up to 500 feet tall.

8:30:14

And that's a significant change.

8:30:16

So we support more housing, but it must be done responsibly in the context that fits our community.

8:30:22

Again, representative Lopez, thank you so much for your willingness to work with us.

8:30:27

We look forward to providing constructive feedback, and we understand this is just the beginning of the process.

8:30:32

Thank you, madam chair.

8:30:34

Thank you.

8:30:34

So, you know, Commissioner Fernandez, that was last year.

8:30:38

Okay.

8:30:39

Um you came as a representative of the city of Miami Beach, and you spoke in front of state legislatures, and you advocated for this exact piece of legislation.

8:30:53

That's not for that for the excuse me, let me finish.

8:30:55

But that's excuse me.

8:30:57

Let me finish, please.

8:30:58

With the intent to stop live local from happening in Miami Beach and taking away our local control.

8:31:07

And now, for some reason, that has changed.

8:31:12

Everything you said up there was amazing.

8:31:16

It made perfect sense.

8:31:18

It struck a chord of why we don't need live local anymore in Miami Beach.

8:31:26

Or why someone in Tallahassee can write our zoning code, we should be able to write our zoning code.

8:31:33

But we have to meet them halfway.

8:31:35

If we're not willing to meet them halfway by something that's been in the works for almost two years, this isn't this isn't zoning that I came up with.

8:31:44

This came from took you know our our zoning director, our planning director, Tom Mooney.

8:31:50

He came up with this whole concept of how can we incentivize the residential development that Miami Beach wants that we want to see.

8:32:01

Now, I understand if we're not gonna we're no longer gonna be have management or development agreements with developers that want to build double the height from 150 feet to 350 feet.

8:32:18

To be honest, uh that's not real urban planning.

8:32:21

That's how we end up with five park, that's how we end up with the Sita.

8:32:29

That's why when you look at our coastline, you see these odd buildings out of character.

8:32:36

It's because over time you have developers that have successfully gotten through to a commission and get what they want in a spot zone.

8:32:47

I don't want to hear, I don't want to have any more developers come to us with this great idea of what they're gonna do and how it's gonna help the community when in reality they're just making them look as much money as possible.

8:33:02

This gives us the ability to say, hey, we've already passed a comprehensive plan for housing.

8:33:12

We don't need you to come here and tell us what you expect and what you want to do to make money.

8:33:20

We're gonna be able to incentivize the type of development and housing that we define, not they define.

8:33:29

And yes, sure, we're not gonna be uh in entrenched in in development agreements with with developers that in reality can literally purchase every single lobbyist uh on Miami Beach and lobby us till Kingdom Come and and get and get extraordinary uh development rights.

8:33:53

I think this is real urban planning.

8:33:55

We're deciding the future of a corridor, and I think that's the right approach, not piecemeal.

8:34:02

I don't want to see a 500-foot building on Washington Avenue.

8:34:06

I don't want to see a 300-foot building on Washington Avenue.

8:34:10

I don't want to see uh uh a 20-story building on Washington Avenue.

8:34:15

I want something that's consistent.

8:34:16

When you walk down, everything makes sense.

8:34:21

And until we recognize that fact, you're gonna end up with more five parks.

8:34:27

And so look, at the end of the day, you know, I'm really hoping that we could put politics aside and we can do what's best for the city.

8:34:37

You know, I uh I also want to bring up the concern of infrastructure.

8:34:43

And John, if you're there uh or Vince, you know, if there is John, if you can come up.

8:34:52

If there is a project and they exceed a certain amount of gallons uh that the infrastructure capacity can't handle, what do they have to do?

8:35:05

I'm assuming they have to.

8:35:06

Well, they're not gonna be issued a permit if uh we don't have the capacity to build or to take their flow.

8:35:11

I'm assuming they're gonna have to upgrade their our infrastructure, we would have to enter into agreement to upgrade it.

8:35:19

Okay.

8:35:19

Yes, sir.

8:35:20

And so what by doing that, what does that do to our infrastructure?

8:35:25

Well, it makes it better, but they're not going to be able to, they're not going to pay for the entire upgrade.

8:35:33

So we're going to have to upgrade our system and through an agreement have contributions through a developer.

8:35:40

Does get a little more complicated because we really have a gravity system, gravity sanitary sewer system in parts of the city that needs to be made larger and upgraded.

8:35:51

Okay, and so Vince, well, thank you for showing up.

8:35:54

If there is a development on Washington Avenue, that does need to upgrade the system.

8:36:00

How would that work?

8:36:01

And what would the permit process look like?

8:36:05

When my time as a developer, it was common and a condition that any additional impact to the system, the developer owned it, had to do it, had to install it, uh, and had to put a bond uh for the maintenance period until it could be conveyed to Miami Dade Water and Sewer or the municipality.

8:36:24

So that is the traditional model that was in unincorporated the accounting while I was still developing.

8:36:30

Excuse me, I'm catching my breath.

8:36:34

But that was the model uh that they used for for many years.

8:36:39

There's other models that came out with the uh the CDD tax issue where the municipality will put it out to bid and then back charge, and it would be like an additional tax.

8:36:51

That model uh the county has kind of walked away from because it leads an additional burden, like an extra fee from taxes and association dues.

8:37:02

But again, those are other avenues that you could use to improve infrastructure and things of that nature.

8:37:09

Thank you.

8:37:09

And so there was another point, I think, Commissioner Bob broad.

8:37:12

It's that uh brought up TCC and how detrimental that was.

8:37:18

And I think one of the biggest issues that the TCC was is that they have transient use.

8:37:25

You're allowed to these all these, I think 12 or 13 developments going up, you're allowed to have Airbnbs in them.

8:37:32

This particular legislation strictly prohibits that.

8:37:37

Um also it only limits to a height incentive of 25 feet.

8:37:44

Now, look, if you were to tell me that that is incongruent with with what you think, I'm I certainly open to removing the 25 foot height incentive.

8:37:54

I'm not married to it.

8:37:56

Um there was a comment that this is too broad.

8:38:01

This is urban planning.

8:38:03

Urban planning isn't going by parcel to parcel and deciding what's what what how it's gonna look over decades.

8:38:12

I don't think that's the right approach.

8:38:14

Like I said, the planning, our zoning code hasn't changed since I was five years old in 1989.

8:38:23

I think it's outdated.

8:38:24

I think we need to to adapt to the times.

8:38:28

I don't see I if there right now it's incentivized for hotels.

8:38:33

I don't see I don't see there a uh a mad rush to build more hotels on Washington Avenue.

8:38:41

In fact, nothing wants to be built on Washington Avenue.

8:38:44

What's on Washington Avenue is crumbling.

8:38:47

So uh look, you know, I mean, we're going to Tallahassee, we're saying one thing, but when it comes down to it, we do another.

8:38:57

And before you know it, we're gonna just have more live local because I can tell you one thing, state legislatures are looking at this meeting right here, and they're saying, ha, look at that.

8:39:07

They're going there, they're coming to us, they're telling us one thing, but they're doing another.

8:39:13

We need to do, we need to go above and beyond what's already on Live Local.

8:39:17

At least if we pass something here, we have an argument to make to them saying that we have the ability to control our own zoning for the better.

8:39:29

It's gonna be tailored to what we need, not what someone in Tallahassee thinks.

8:39:37

Mr.

8:39:37

Mayor.

8:39:38

Uh Commissioner Fernandez, that's uh Vice Mayor.

8:39:41

Yeah, absolutely.

8:39:42

Commissioner Mayor.

8:39:43

Thank you, Mr.

8:39:43

Mayor.

8:39:44

Commissioner Nick.

8:39:46

So you mentioned that I advocated for this in Tallahassee.

8:39:49

I didn't advocate for this policy, I mentioned the policy, the policy that is being uh brought for forward.

8:39:56

And um, and I'm happy that I did.

8:40:00

I'm happy that I did because we were able to secure certain certain exceptions because they see that we are having this conversation.

8:40:05

They see that we are discussing policy.

8:40:10

The process is very important.

8:40:16

Responsibly in the context that fits.

8:40:20

Those were my words towards the end of my comments.

8:40:23

Responsibly in the context that fix.

8:41:32

Developers know that if there were to be any development is within the UEA.

8:41:40

We could do something similar here.

8:41:42

You have your capped FAR, but if you go beyond that capped FAR up to 4.0 FAR, you don't have to go through the six month process.

8:42:16

So I think I think this policy, yes, we all want, and I think you're hearing it from everyone in this day.

8:42:23

We all want to see redevelopment in Washington Avenue.

8:42:27

We all want to see housing.

8:42:30

What we don't want to see is a broad policy that creates ass of right zoning for property owners who I believe have purposefully, purposefully abandoned their properties to force us to do policies like this, because I believe it's what's happened.

8:42:49

People have purposefully abandoned their properties to corner the city to push the city into adopting policy like this that artificially increases their property value.

8:43:04

That the moment that this passes, they can flip this property to a developer.

8:43:09

That that developer can then get an approval and a building permit that can then be flipped again and kept open beyond the sunset of this of this of this ordinance.

8:43:21

So my uh my suggestion here is the approach.

8:43:28

Rather than doing it as of right, doing it in such a way where you're saying we're gonna facilitate you to get this zoning so that we can still retain the individual review of each project before we end up with 100-foot buildings up and down Washington Avenue.

8:43:50

I also have a question because you know, talking about Tallahassee, we have SB 180, and you know, one of the good things from this bill from this ordinance would be if we could actually take away the incentive uh from hotel development.

8:44:06

But Mr.

8:44:06

Attorney, can we really can we really take away?

8:44:10

I mean, this is proposing taking away high from hotels, but does SB 180 allow us to do that?

8:44:17

Um actually this ordinance was drafted before SB 180, so I don't think that was contemplated at the time, but you raised a good point.

8:44:26

I think the the down zoning or the yeah, the down zoning for hotels uh may need to be taken out until SB 180 is corrected.

8:44:36

So I mean, so I think we can have this conversation of facilitating this zoning, and I think we can help that zoning happen where the market interest would be at without saying that you have to jump through the hurdle of a six-seventh vote without having to put people through a six-month process, streamlining it so that we make it more realistic and more feasible for people to achieve without creating this ass of right uh zoning that people will have.

8:45:19

Thank you, Mayor.

8:45:20

Tom, I have a question.

8:45:22

This area that's proposed, how many property owners are in this area?

8:45:27

Is it a bunch of small ones, or are there some that own blocks and blocks, or it's primarily smaller property owners?

8:45:34

Some of the lots may be a little bit larger, but by and large, it's a numerous multiple property owners.

8:45:43

And how many would you estimate are in this area?

8:45:47

Probably at least a few hundred, if not a lot more.

8:45:52

And they have they been made aware of this legislative.

8:46:00

I mean, they're re they know that this is potentially gonna happen to their property.

8:46:03

Yeah, the the pro this process started uh almost two years ago with the first referral, and um it was discussed at the land use committee.

8:46:12

Um it was then um referred to the planning board, where the planning board held a hearing, there was a community outreach meeting, and then they had their transmittal meeting.

8:46:22

And so a number of property owners on Washington Avenue participated, property owners on Washington Avenue have asked us about this and are following the legislation.

8:46:32

So we're confident that um a number of the property owners are aware of this.

8:46:37

And they did any of them mention anything about why they haven't wanted to upgrade or redevelop their properties prior to this legislation.

8:46:47

Are they, you know, have they expressed anything?

8:46:52

The property owners that we've spoken to that have shown interest in this are interested in doing non-transient residential, but they have told us that the current 2.0 just doesn't provide enough intensity for them to move forward with that.

8:47:07

Um it varies by property owners.

8:47:10

Some property owners have had the property in the family for decades.

8:47:15

Other property owners like what they currently have.

8:47:19

Um the way this that this particular legislation is drafted, it's drafted so that it presents an opportunity for a limited period of time for property owners to take a hard look at this and decide whether or not they would want to take advantage of it.

8:47:34

Okay, thank you.

8:47:38

Commissioner Commissioner Dominguez and Commissioner Magazine.

8:47:42

Um I like this collaborative discussion, and I don't want to put words in anybody's mouth.

8:47:49

But I think collectively we can all envision some sort of reimagination of Washington Avenue.

8:47:57

So I hope we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here, and we can incorporate the ideas from all of us in the community and things like that.

8:48:06

Now, the best way to go about that, I'm not sure.

8:48:09

Perhaps it's pausing this here.

8:48:10

If it's not going to get support, perhaps it's moving it ahead on first reading and actually having a more informal kind of brainstorming sun shine session.

8:48:24

Sorry.

8:48:25

Um, but I hope we don't throw the baby up with bathwater if we all agree to some how important some sort of reimagination of this corridor, the surrounding area is.

8:48:39

So I hope that we can at least say, okay, well, I don't agree with this 100%, so we get nothing.

8:48:47

Because that's what's happened for the past 40 years.

8:48:50

My thoughts on why Washington Avenue looks the way it does, and and why haven't property owners upgraded yet?

8:48:56

And are they doing this for just sit on the properties, make it so disgusting that we have to offer up zoning?

8:49:05

That's not what I see, and why do I think that?

8:49:08

Because nobody's come to us and said, hey, this is what we need and we're implementing it, right?

8:49:13

We're actually our hardest job is going out and trying to find people that'll take advantage of this, right?

8:49:20

And why these properties haven't been upgraded is because we have this archaic zoning from the 1980s.

8:49:28

I was actually a little older than five, but not much.

8:49:31

Um both used up right.

8:49:37

And this single-use commercial district, it doesn't have the price elasticity to maintain their properties.

8:49:48

People could go and put tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars into a single-story building on 15th and Washington.

8:50:00

But is that really going to improve their sales, their pricing, and the environment that they're in?

8:50:04

No, that's why you see minimum upkeep, minimum maintenance, minimum investment.

8:50:10

Because guess what?

8:50:11

No matter how beautiful your store looks, you're still only going to be able to smell sell smoke and vapes for so much money.

8:50:18

There's only so much price elasticity.

8:50:21

So why the reason there haven't been those upgrades in keeping up with the times is because of such overly restrictive zoning that the city is actually applied to this corridor because at one point in time we just wanted it a single-use commercial corridor with maybe some hotel or things like that.

8:50:41

But even those hotel heights are rather uh in today's building code, you know, 50 trying to build anything 50 feet, 75 feet is next to impossible, right?

8:50:51

It's just not going to happen.

8:50:53

So what I would urge, and again, I don't want to put words in anybody's mouth because if you're just happy with the way Washington Avenue is, I I vehemently disagree, but uh we're all entitled to our own opinion, so that that's fine, and maybe I'm misreading the situation.

8:51:08

But if we do conceptually agree with a new direction for this city, so many things.

8:51:16

We're up here, we're talking about new messaging for spring break, new identity for our city, not being a party town, but health and wellness, focus on economic development.

8:51:26

Well, we can also pivot on urban planning, and we don't need to perfectly align together today what exactly that is, but let's at least align with agreeing that we're going to move forward with this reimagination and finding a way over the course of the next month or two months to come up with a pathway forward and what that ultimate product is.

8:51:48

And I I think that's perhaps moving this along, or at least not killing this idea as a whole.

8:51:54

So uh Mr.

8:51:55

Mayor?

8:51:56

Commissioner Suarez.

8:51:57

Wasn't it me?

8:51:58

Oh, I'm sorry.

8:52:00

Commissioner Dominguez.

8:52:02

Thank you.

8:52:03

So there's no question that Washington Avenue needs revitalization.

8:52:09

The way this legislation is written is a developer giveaway.

8:52:13

It's increasing the property values.

8:52:16

And I think it's being a little dramatic to say we're throwing out the baby with the bath water if we don't approve this today.

8:52:23

Um let's reimagine it.

8:52:25

Let's get it right.

8:52:26

Uh if it needs to be rewritten, let's do it.

8:52:29

But approving something as dangerous as this item on first reading is irresponsible.

8:52:34

It's not right for our city.

8:52:36

I look at what's happening in North Beach, and this was like four commissions ago that made decisions that we're now living through because they passed things through that at the time they thought were gonna be beneficial.

8:52:49

And um they're really not.

8:52:51

Um somebody I'm not sure who said that um, oh, then we're just gonna get live local on Washington Avenue.

8:52:59

That's not true, because there's been a bunch of live local applications that have been submitted.

8:53:06

Only one has been approved because there's criteria that needs to uh exist in order for a live local to get approved.

8:53:15

So it's not a blanket that there's going to be live local up and and down um that area.

8:53:20

Commissioner Fernandez was spot on when he said we're rewarding uh bad operators by increasing their values.

8:53:29

And uh it's just let's get this right.

8:53:33

Washington Avenue does need to get revitalized, but a sweeping blanket.

8:53:39

We've gotten a lot of communications about this from businesses and residents.

8:53:43

Uh one that just comes to mind now, um, is somebody saying how the hotels that were there that were approved, the Moxie and the good time, and they were uh multi-use, all of the stores underneath are vacant.

8:53:59

If you look out the fifth, the multi-use buildings that have been created that have living on top and uh offices or uh commercial stores underneath, they're all vacant.

8:54:12

Uh and who's to say that a future commission, if we approve this with no parking, is not gonna change it all to hotel when they can't get residents in Miami to get rid of their cars.

8:54:23

So let's get this right so that we are not hurting our city later.

8:54:28

Uh it's good uh to look at Washington Avenue.

8:54:32

It's critical because that area is the worst I've seen it in a very long time, maybe ever, but uh giving blanket giveaways, it's it's irresponsible.

8:54:44

Commissioner Suarez.

8:54:47

Um there's some landowners uh on the phone that I think we should give some public comment to.

8:54:53

Um and then I'm ready to just bring us in for a landing.

8:54:56

So that we we have other business to go to.

8:55:00

Before we ask uh before we hear from them, can I so if that's not the path, Commissioner Dominguez, what is right?

8:55:05

If it's not this, then what is that process?

8:55:08

Because we've sat on this and discussed it at length.

8:55:12

Commissioner Fernandez just gave an option, and I think it's brilliant.

8:55:15

That's that's what I'm trying to get at.

8:55:18

No need for the back and forth.

8:55:21

I'm genuinely asking, if not this, you're saying, okay, not this.

8:55:26

If not this, then my uh what I am saying is uh I would second what Commissioner Fernandez has given because it gives us protections and we're not rubber stamping um increases in property values for bad business owners, bad property owners who have let their places go to uh hell.

8:55:45

Well, but let me let if I could just jump in there because the idea is to create a special zoning process where you got this great idea that Commissioner Suarez has, because we do need housing.

8:55:58

Uh but and and it's been my consistent concern when we've had conversations about this at land use is that you're getting over a mile and we're upzoning that entire mile rather than finding more narrow spaces or nodes of development where you may want to facilitate it and encourage it.

8:56:21

Now you know, we don't know where the market is.

8:56:24

We don't know where the market wants to develop.

8:56:26

We can tell the market, hey, listen, you know, for as long as you're within this height.

8:56:31

If it's a hundred feet and 4.0 FAR within this area, we'll make it easy for you to get your approval, you know, rather than the six-month process.

8:56:42

Uh we could do like what like what the Faina did.

8:56:45

The Faina, we have in our in our LDRs the expedited small scale um uh process, uh, which is much quicker.

8:56:55

Um rather than a six-seventh vote, you can do a five-seventh vote.

8:56:59

You're almost like pre-approving, you're almost pre-approving this area for this for this development without granting the value and the rights immediately.

8:57:12

It gives the city the ability to review these projects individually and the administration to negotiate benefits for the public.

8:57:21

And Mr.

8:57:22

Attorney, I don't know, is there would you have any concerns with this?

8:57:26

I know I I started working or having this discussion with the city attorney.

8:57:31

I haven't uh spoken with Nick, but uh Rick, do you have any concerns with that type of framework?

8:57:38

That kind of gets the policy that Commissioner Suarez is pro is proposing it, but implementing it through process rather than through as of right.

8:57:48

Yeah, and I discussed with Nick, so I'll I'll defer to him, but but I think we need to look at this closely and figure out how to do it in a in a manner that is within the confines of the law.

8:57:58

I was just uh discussing with the planning director, and I think what you're getting at is something like a a warrant process.

8:58:05

Um I would just caution the commission that that we can't adopt changes to our code or approve projects on the condition that you know that uh that certain consideration be provided.

8:58:18

So I think we could establish what I would recommend is if we were to go that path, we would establish objective criteria like uh like we have in many of these incentive ordinances that a project would have to meet in order to be eligible for that.

8:58:30

But we can get this zoning that Commissioner Suarez is proposing for attainable housing and make the approval process easier for it while still retaining our ability to be able to vote on and consider uh these projects on a case-by-case basis rather than making them ass of right.

8:58:49

And and if we the way the way I think we could do that would be through like a warrant type process.

8:58:55

We're that way it's a balance.

8:58:57

That way we're creating the zoning, we're facilitating the zoning, but we're not just giving it up.

8:59:02

We are we're we're keeping some leverage for the public's benefit on the city cent.

8:59:09

I Commissioner Bach.

8:59:10

I I really like this approach because I think we all share the desire to create more affordable housing as as we've all already said.

8:59:17

I think the fear comes into losing control over what goes where, because we've seen it happen, and it's it ain't pretty.

8:59:26

Um I also am afraid, not afraid, but I'm I'm leery of approving anything until we know the disposition of Senate Bill 180.

8:59:34

Um, because to move forward with this as it is now and not be able to remove the disincentivization of hotel use is problematic.

8:59:46

So I mean the session is gonna be over pretty soon.

8:59:49

We should know where this is.

8:59:51

It's gonna take us some time to figure out how to incorporate the goals that I think we share with the process that gives us a little bit more control.

9:00:01

And so, you know, maybe we instead of passing this at first reading, we have a sunshine meeting to hash out some of the these ideas that have been shared today, and then come back after the session is over and we can you know have this reworked to get to where we're trying to be incorporating the feedback that we're sharing here.

9:00:24

And knowing where the state is on um on state at 180.

9:00:30

Commissioner Sorazin, I know you want to have you mentioned earlier about public comment.

9:00:34

Yeah, look, if if the fear is a hundred feet or the twenty-five extra bonus, I'm okay with removing that.

9:00:44

Like right now it's 75 feet for hotels, 50 feet for residential.

9:00:49

I'm okay with just flipping that to say 75 feet for residential and removing any sort of bonus.

9:00:56

And I don't see what the difference between that legislation is, then as opposed to offering uh residential.

9:01:08

I mean, I think we all agree that we need more attainable housing on the beach.

9:01:13

And we we campaign on that.

9:01:15

We do it in our slogans, we put it on social media, we put it on flyers, but here's an opportunity to actually promote more attainable housing with the height restriction that we have.

9:01:27

And I'm certainly open to just removing the 25 feet uh bonus.

9:01:31

And you know, I I think you know, Commissioner Fernandez in Tallahassee, you said you know you were ecstatic about building 3600 units.

9:01:41

That's more than what the planning director just said.

9:01:45

I don't see what the issue is.

9:01:47

Well, I didn't use the word excited.

9:01:49

Well, it's seeming okay.

9:01:50

Well, all right.

9:01:51

Well, I was telling us paid.

9:01:53

But listen, I I I get it.

9:01:54

I'm just saying, I'm simply saying every every year we talk about affordable housing, attainable housing, what we can do about it.

9:02:04

And now, you know, it seems a lot of my colleagues want to throw up a lot of these big government hurdles into getting that done when in reality there could be a bunch of hotels right now on Washington Avenue at 75 feet.

9:02:19

They don't want to do that because it just doesn't work.

9:02:22

If we want actual attainable housing to be built in Miami Beach, let's not get, let's not have government get in the way of that.

9:02:31

We should be fostering that through legislation.

9:02:34

I don't think we need to put as many hurdles and uh objections uh in in the process.

9:02:43

So look, I mean, again, I don't see Only Walls really bringing forward a solution.

9:02:50

I think uh getting in the way and doing a warrant process is really it's not gonna I mean do you really think a developer is gonna want to go through that?

9:03:00

Or he'd rather just do a live local where he doesn't have to go through that.

9:03:04

And you can go much taller.

9:03:07

So look, I I I think this is just good legislation.

9:03:10

I'd I would really like to hear what the public has to say.

9:03:13

Um and let's just finally bring us in for a landing.

9:03:16

Ms.

9:03:16

Commissioner Fernandez, thank you.

9:03:18

And so it's you know, when we talk about live local, and since you're referencing live local, you know, our advocacy and live local has all been about retaining local decision making for the community.

9:03:31

For the planning department, for for the governing body elected by the people who represent the people.

9:03:38

It's all been about local decision making.

9:03:42

And we lose that in a way with this because we're giving S of rights development rights.

9:03:50

We're giving S of right zoning.

9:03:53

So we lose a level of decision making that we have right now.

9:04:00

Just how we lose it with live local.

9:04:04

And what I'm suggesting is we can get this same concept that you have.

9:04:09

But facilitated.

9:04:10

Let's remove obstacles.

9:04:12

Let's remove um I mean, I'm saying it's a six-month process.

9:04:17

Is it a six-month process for the FAR increase?

9:04:21

Well, currently it's like it's more.

9:04:23

It's more when you factor in the three meetings of planning board, three meetings of commission, the zoning cycle is every six months, but it's typically longer.

9:04:33

But we can remove that.

9:04:34

We can remove that that process and do a more expedited process.

9:04:40

We can consider doing away with a six-seventh vote and do what we normally do with a normal LDR, which is a five-seventh vote.

9:04:49

So we signal, okay, in this corridor, this is where we want to see increase.

9:05:00

And for as long as you stay within this height, whether it be a hundred feet or seventy-five feet, and for as long as you don't request more than this amount of FAR, we'll cut the bureaucracy, we'll cut the process, the time that you'll spend, and we'll reduce the amount of votes so that the city administration can ultimately participate in this in this process so that ultimately we can listen to our community and the neighbors who are going to be affected by this.

9:05:25

But we're it would be a big cut of red tape.

9:05:28

It would have facilitated and it achieves both objectives.

9:05:31

It advances your goals, but while still keeping protections for for the surrounding residents.

9:05:38

And that's ultimately why we fight for decision making.

9:05:41

Why was I in Tallahassee?

9:05:43

Why did I mention this?

9:05:44

Because I didn't want our community to lose its voice on these projects, which is what Live Local does.

9:05:52

And the moment we pass as of right zoning, we lose the community's input on these approvals.

9:05:59

Commissioner Magazine.

9:06:01

Yeah.

9:06:02

Sure.

9:06:03

I'm not dogmatic about this, right?

9:06:05

My my true goal is just we have some really run-down commercial corridors that I think can really benefit our city by being reimagined.

9:06:13

I don't care who the sponsor is.

9:06:15

I I don't care what committee they travel through or things like that.

9:06:19

So I like your idea as well.

9:06:21

I like Commissioner Swarez, I like yours.

9:06:23

Come up to a similar end goal.

9:06:25

What is the vessel for getting there, Commissioner Fernandez?

9:06:28

Because I'm um happy to entertain that as well.

9:06:32

I just don't want to put out these grandiose ideas and uh not know the direction it'll take to get there.

9:06:38

So I I'm happy to um have some sort of blend, incorporate yours, incorporate some of your ideas.

9:06:44

I just want to know how we're going to get there.

9:06:47

Is is it a new bill?

9:06:48

Is it uh talk to me about the process?

9:06:51

And if if I can also expand on uh Commissioner Fernandez, so your idea is and I'm I guess you don't want it all happening all at once, right?

9:07:05

Um you don't want every single property to take advantage of this.

9:07:10

And I can understand that.

9:07:12

Um I don't like the blanket up zoning of the entire area, which is what I've been mentioning on the long.

9:07:18

But what I'm but right now, you can do that for a hotel.

9:07:24

Yeah, but you've already you and I weren't here when that was passed.

9:07:28

And in fact, we understand that, but hold on, let me just we sunset a legislation on that, and we've repealed micro units and and other legislation that affected Washington Avenue because we wanted to roll that back.

9:07:39

But right now, it still is law, like that you can build to 75 feet for a hotel right now.

9:07:46

So you don't have this mad rush to have a bunch of hotels on Washington Avenue.

9:07:51

You know, I it's it to say that every single property is going to be in a mad rush to build a residential.

9:08:00

I d you know, uh I don't know, but I'm certainly okay between a first and second reading to explore the idea of you know a stop gap for the commission to approve.

9:08:14

The idea, as Tom explained, was so that the historic preservation can be that board of of approvals as a stop gap.

9:08:23

Um but you know, I think we can work on that between first and second reading.

9:08:27

I don't again if I'm willing to just say, you know, let's move away with this 25-foot bonus.

9:08:34

What else is there?

9:08:35

What what other sticking points are there?

9:08:36

So but remember, this is this is in the in the Art Deco Historic District.

9:08:40

So any project here still has to go to the historic preservation board for approval.

9:08:46

What we're talking here is is about the intensity, the zoning that that is being created.

9:08:53

And just for clarification, Nick, doesn't the hotel uh bonus, doesn't that expire?

9:09:00

Doesn't that have a sense of provision?

9:09:03

Parking does for Washington?

9:09:06

Yeah.

9:09:09

Yeah, the parking provision had an expiration, a sunset of 2027.

9:09:15

Um I'll double check the the smaller size hotel units and the height.

9:09:21

I don't think that that had a sunset.

9:09:22

And recently a new hotel got approved on Washington Avenue that goes from Washington to Collins.

9:09:28

15th Street, yeah, the Hatton Hall.

9:09:30

Right.

9:09:30

So it is it is it it is happening.

9:09:33

Um but you know, I guess my point here is that we don't want to we don't want to give this up as of right.

9:09:45

But they have as a right right now for hotels.

9:09:48

Wouldn't you rather have it the other way around?

9:09:50

It and and hopefully that sunsets because I think it's not sunsetting.

9:09:55

It's just it's not.

9:09:56

But they're they're not getting the other.

9:10:00

By the way, with this legislation, you're gonna you're gonna de-incentivize hotel use.

9:10:02

You well, you can't undo the the hotel use.

9:10:06

It's preempted by all.

9:10:08

We can what when I mean deincentivize the hotel user go from 75 feet to 50 feet.

9:10:12

Mr.

9:10:12

Mayor, can I I'd appreciate it if we could you got a door installed here because I can't.

9:10:17

I'm sorry.

9:10:17

Yeah.

9:10:18

I can't with the charter with the tab behind us.

9:10:21

If maybe we can't do that.

9:10:22

Can everyone Mr.

9:10:23

Mayor can we just go to public comment, please?

9:10:25

And can I wait one second?

9:10:29

I think are you finished with Commissioner French?

9:10:32

Yeah, I mean it's it's it's about the approach.

9:10:35

It ultimately is about uh about the approach.

9:10:39

All these things, yes, they still go through HPB, um, but they don't get the zoning as of right.

9:10:47

Uh and so and so that's the difference.

9:10:49

And I and I think we're best served when we retain some of that.

9:10:53

So can I ask Commissioner Both, then uh we'll take public comment.

9:10:59

Um Tom, let's see.

9:11:02

What is the maximum is there a maximum lot aggregation here?

9:11:06

No, there's no maximum lot aggregation.

9:11:08

So what's the maximum size of a project?

9:11:11

A whole block.

9:11:13

Could we create a maximum lot aggregation potentially?

9:11:18

You could if you wanted to.

9:11:20

Um didn't we just pass legislation in December, or at least talked about it about property owners who are bad actors who have violations not being allowed to apply, where is that in the legislative process?

9:11:36

So that was adopted, but that only applies to individual applications that are asking for zoning incentives.

9:11:43

This is not an individual application, this is for a modification to the land development regulation.

9:11:50

Right.

9:11:51

Well, so but I I think that's kind of part of what the reservation is to um to give this kind of blanket zoning.

9:11:58

So that that's a thing we should put a pin in and come back to as well.

9:12:01

Um is there um this idea of you know you could pull a permit and then you have in perpetuity to just not do the project or sell it and resell it.

9:12:13

Like I so for me, if we could if we could flip 50 to 75 and get rid of the hundred foot max, if we could limit the permit rollovers once, maybe twice, but not in perpetuity, get rid of the TDRs, which I hate, and I said on the record, Joe.

9:12:32

Um maximum of three to five projects.

9:12:36

I'm not sure what the right number would be, but I'd hate to see the entire mile all of a sudden be upzoned because I think that that limits part of the charm of our skyline is that it's variegated.

9:12:48

And um, you know, I think we want to keep some of that charm.

9:12:54

And so, you know, we've talked for years about um about incentivizing owners to redevelop existing property.

9:13:04

So we'd like to, I think that might be a conversation point.

9:13:08

Um I think we need to talk about if you've been a really crappy property owner historically, um you don't get to I don't I don't know how we'd fix this because ultimately we want those people to go away and better actors to come in.

9:13:22

But um I we need to think about how how we address that because that's a problem.

9:13:28

We don't want to reward that behavior.

9:13:29

And I think we should look at maximum lot aggregation because I think maybe a full block is not the desired effect.

9:13:35

And I forget where the comments came about mixed use retail on the ground floor versus um being uh productive versus not I think that's really a a devil's in the details kind of thing because you walk through Boston or Chicago or New York City and there are vibrant thriving neighborhoods full of retail on the first floor.

9:13:55

It's a question of um building retail spaces that people want to use.

9:14:00

So like the project that's being contemplated for Nolly, where it's smaller retail instead of bigger, or it's more modern, or you know, whatever.

9:14:08

I I think there's a way to address that.

9:14:10

Um I don't think it is by definition terrible.

9:14:14

I think I mean I've I've talked to people in the industry who knowingly have built less than ideal retail spaces because they don't really care if it's vacant or or rented out, that's not where they're making their money.

9:14:26

So I think that needs to be something that gets contemplated in this as well, that the retail space can't be a throwaway.

9:14:32

It has to be carefully crafted, um, you know, with parameters carefully crafted so that it can't be staying vacant for in perpetuity.

9:14:41

So I think I think we're all kind of close.

9:14:44

I just don't think we're there yet.

9:14:46

And Mr.

9:14:47

Mayor, I I just if if if I can if I can um Commissioner Suarez um as mentioned by by Commissioner Bod, we have the legislation about rewarding bad property owners with with zoning.

9:15:04

And you know, what we legislated is, you know, whether through a private application or a referral, you have to be in good standing with the city before you know, before you get any any of these privileges, zoning privileges, privileges that are extremely valuable in our city.

9:15:26

And what that means is you know, you don't have open code violations, you pay outstanding uh fees, we address safety issues, uh, and we address other things specifically because of concerns that you raised, and you co-sponsored that ordinance with me, or you sponsored it with me, specifically because we had concerns about rewarding bad property owners with valuable zoning.

9:15:51

And we lose that ability, and Nick correct me if I'm wrong.

9:15:55

Do we lose that ability to implement this ordinance if we create this ass of rights zoning?

9:16:06

The the way that ordinance is drafted is you have to be in good standing before you file a private application uh to amend LDRs.

9:16:14

So could an applicant for an as a right project have open violations?

9:16:20

Yes, probably.

9:16:21

But they're not amending the LDRs when when they're doing something that's ass of rights.

9:16:25

The LDRs have been amended for them.

9:16:28

And so it prohibits us from implementing the ordinance that you and I crafted that you and I sponsored to prevent our city from rewarding bad property owners with valuable zoning.

9:16:41

And so I think there's a there's a happy medium to be found here, one that advances your goals, but one that also protects policies that we've already passed and preserves rights for the city and uh in our residents.

9:16:54

I suggest that we refer this to the land back to the land use committee so that so that we can work on this on a way that is productive.

9:17:02

Uh not that this discussion is not productive because it really actually has been incredibly insightful.

9:17:08

Um, but so that we can fine-tune this a little bit more.

9:17:13

Okay.

9:17:13

Public comment.

9:17:16

Thank you.

9:17:17

Our first caller has initials DR.

9:17:24

Yep.

9:17:24

Can everyone hear me?

9:17:25

Yes, please state your name.

9:17:26

Go ahead.

9:17:27

Hi there.

9:17:27

My name is David Rydenberg.

9:17:29

I am a business owner on 15th in Washington and uh property owner on 13th.

9:17:34

And I just bought my first apartment on 13th in Pennsylvania, so about a block away from Washington.

9:17:40

I first wanna thank um Commissioner Suarez for bringing this issue uh to light and proposing legislation.

9:17:48

I think that um not only is it very common sense legislation, it's it's just something that is incredibly long overdue.

9:17:58

I'm actually making this phone call, or I'm taking the zoom eating.

9:18:03

I'm right in front of cheeseburger baby in front of a lot that's about to be demolished for a hotel going up.

9:18:10

Um so I just think that's a pertinent detail to add.

9:18:14

Um I'm looking at a tattoo shop, a smoke shop, Club Madonna right in front of me, and then three vacant restaurants to my left and the Axel hotel right behind me that just went out of business.

9:18:30

So I'm just giving context that I I really urge every commissioner that might not be living in South Beach.

9:18:37

I know we have people from North Beach or Midbeach to just after the commission meeting today, please start on Lincoln Road, take a walk down to Fifth Street on Washington, and understand that I don't think that this should be have endless meetings and legislation about something that really is should be a public emergency.

9:18:57

Um I think there is a sense of urgency, and I understand they need to do it right.

9:19:01

Um, as Commissioner Suarez said, right now, hotels currently do have um that height benefit that residential does not.

9:19:10

I think that every commissioner here is platformed, and I voted for a majority of you all um because of the residence first approach.

9:19:18

So I think giving residential buildings, especially without cars permission to build the same height as hotels is just a fantastic policy.

9:19:29

And I think Commissioner Suarez for bringing that to the table.

9:19:33

I really think it's our next caller is Wayne.

9:19:38

Thank you very much.

9:19:40

Um first and foremost, I want to thank all of you.

9:19:44

You you actually had a decent conversation.

9:19:47

And uh the fact that those pushback forced David to bring it down to 75 from I thought it was 150.

9:19:56

That's the way he originally presented his comment.

9:20:00

If it's 100, so be it.

9:20:03

75 sounds a lot better than 150 or 100.

9:20:09

But it the fact remains that corridor, if you go to Los Alas Boulevard in Fort Lauderdale, there is no additional FAR, but yet every storefront is filled, every storefront is well maintained.

9:20:27

And why we can't make that on Washington Avenue is a result of some very bad landowners and some very bad uh politicians.

9:20:36

And um the fact remains that that I don't have a problem with like certain built certain spots, you know, maybe 20% of Washington Avenue, maybe certainly that ambassador on 16th Street and Washington.

9:20:52

Uh that spot is is perfect for a larger uh size property of 100 and 100 feet, whatever he's reasonably asking for.

9:21:04

But to make a wall to put every business out of business, and and I walk Washington Avenue.

9:21:10

I am one of the residents, and I see I see hundreds of people out there every night that I go.

9:21:16

Uh I go to Tony's.

9:21:17

Tony's is a fabulous restaurant.

9:21:19

I best Asian restaurant, uh sushi restaurant in in Miami Beach.

9:21:24

And I think most of you have been there.

9:21:27

Um Queen.

9:21:29

Uh, you could look at like stellar businesses that that are full, uh, especially Tony's that are uh successful, and we need more of those those sort of establishments.

9:21:43

We should be investing.

9:21:44

We should can I continue?

9:21:47

We have please can I continue for 30 seconds?

9:21:51

Go ahead, please.

9:21:53

So we also like we have um we have the opportunity to invest in the properties that uh by by enabling certain landowners to go to the hundred feet or 75 feet, preferably, and using some of the tax revenue to help uh the the building owners to like update their buildings.

9:22:14

That that they need they need assistance, they need incentives, but it's not incentives for height and FAR.

9:22:20

Thank you, sir.

9:22:21

And by the way, wait, I got one more question.

9:22:23

I got one more remark.

9:22:26

And and we're not talking about we're not talking about like cheap uh uh inexpensive property.

9:22:32

We're talking about building out new construction.

9:22:35

Let's go now to Omar Park View.

9:22:42

Hi, good afternoon.

9:22:43

Um Omar Jimenez, 1659 Washington Avenue.

9:22:48

Um I just I've never really understood why Washington has been allowed to become what it is today.

9:22:53

Uh this is not about rewarding good or bad property owners.

9:22:57

This is about creating good legit legislation that rewards the community and residents that elected you to service.

9:23:04

We have a serious attainable housing crisis in Miami Beach, unless you have an extra million dollars laying around to drop on luxury condos built for investors that don't even live here.

9:23:14

When my family first opened our business on Washington over 20 uh almost 21 years ago, opening a business north of Lincoln Road was almost like an assured failure.

9:23:24

It was ridden with crime.

9:23:26

Um then the new world was built.

9:23:29

The convention center was renovated over the past number of years.

9:23:32

Our building was also fully renovated.

9:23:34

And today, north of Lincoln and Washington is much different than what it was 20 years ago.

9:23:40

But most importantly, we enjoy regular business from the residential properties on James Avenue and the residential neighborhood just north of our business on Washington and James.

9:23:51

Right now, walking down Washington Avenue is like taking a chance with your life at night and sometimes even during the day too.

9:23:58

Businesses are not surviving.

9:23:59

I speak regularly with business owners on the street.

9:24:02

One of them is closing just after six months in business.

9:24:05

Another one is having issues selling their long-time established restaurant on Washington and has had to reduce the price dramatically advertising it over six months by introducing full-time residential.

9:24:17

Many of these issues would be resolved.

9:24:20

Introducing full-time residents ensures that caring members are part of this community that helps shape the future of this juggling street that come down from their condos and frequent the businesses and take pride in their neighborhood.

9:24:34

This is not just about any street in Miami Beach we're talking about here.

9:24:37

This is about one of our main streets and arteries.

9:24:40

If Miami Beach is serious about providing workforce or attainable type housing, without projects like the animal.

9:24:47

Thank you.

9:24:48

Our next caller is Daniel Seraldo.

9:24:54

Yes, thank you, Daniel Serraldo, and thank you to the sponsor for a video of me from 2019.

9:25:00

For those who don't know, I was the longest serving executive director of Miami Design Preservation League.

9:25:05

And unfortunately, I'm not able to uh show my video here due to commission restrictions.

9:25:11

Um, as far as this current proposal, I don't know where it came from.

9:25:16

I don't know why it is here.

9:25:18

I saw a list of groups supporting it, but I don't see what is MDPL's position on it.

9:25:24

I don't see what is Flamingo Park's position on it.

9:25:27

And I'm a little bit concerned that it's due to the attacks by Commissioner Suarez on the MDPL and on myself.

9:25:35

Uh, is this all part of his attempt to destroy the Art Echo Historic District?

9:25:40

This is not urban planning.

9:25:43

I also wanted to mention that Commissioner Magazine uh was concerned about the Collins Park apartments that people were displaced.

9:25:51

I'd like him to please go to the De Tore apartments on Washington Avenue and count how many units and how many of our residents who are living in housing right now would be displaced by this.

9:26:02

And finally, I would like to mention that the owner of one of the Washington Avenue properties who spoke this morning gave 25,000 each to the two Suarez endorsed candidates, both of whom lost.

9:26:15

So their properties should be excluded from this.

9:26:17

Thank you.

9:26:18

Our next caller is iPhone.

9:26:26

I just want to like to make some recommendation.

9:26:30

Uh uh real estate is my expertise.

9:26:33

And I think on the Washington Avenue, uh, the idea of creating a housing for affordable housing for middle class family is very challenging anywhere in Miami Beach because of the cost of the land and the cost of the construction.

9:26:51

So I think what you need to do is figure out what could be built and at what price.

9:26:56

Because if you cannot deliver an apartment, two bedroom, spacious apartment, at least 1,500 square feet to 2,500 square feet, because that's what a family will need, minimum, you know, to be able to have a decent uh life.

9:27:11

And if you cannot build something for uh, you know, half a million to 750,000 with the land that you have with the height that you have, then you're not going to you know, whatever you try to do there, it's gonna be a failure.

9:27:26

So I think you gotta go back to because most middle class family cannot afford more than that.

9:27:32

So you have to go and say, okay, what is a family can afford to pay to buy this apartment or to rent this apartment?

9:27:39

And I think you should go from that point and see what you could build, and if it's if it's feasible, and that's how you should look at your feasibility.

9:27:48

Uh, because you know, I've been volunteering in the affordable housing uh committee for this past year, and and I have some ideas how to uh build more parking spaces and workforce housing.

9:28:02

And workforce housing is very uh uh achievable anywhere.

9:28:07

I mean, my idea was we have more than 60 parking lots in Miami Beach alone.

9:28:13

Take some of those parking lots, those are lots, those are not just garage, and build the 8 to 12 story where you have the first four floors be parking and the uh uh at the rest of the floors, you know, whatever A-floor moors or five-floor moors be a four be uh work housing.

9:28:32

Uh uh, and that you know, will uh uh create and and and have those available only for people who already have jobs here full time.

9:28:42

But with the thank you so much.

9:28:43

Our next caller is Sarah.

9:28:45

Sarah, please state your name.

9:28:49

Hi, Sarah de los reyes.

9:28:51

Um as a resident opinion, I think you need to have like a vision of what is going to be the people living there, and like you were saying, but you also need the vision of what's gonna be underneath it in the commercial, like in Sansa Harbor, we had a vision, but one conglomerate owns most of the most of the commercial here.

9:29:11

And the property value, the property rents the lease are so high that a lot of them have to close because it's not enough.

9:29:18

They don't make enough when to pay for the lease.

9:29:21

So you need to have make sure you have a supermarket.

9:29:24

Make sure you have a couple of places that people get up in the morning, go have breakfast, that people can go have a sandwich.

9:29:30

You need to have that type of commercial on the bottom to have your residential on top that able to enjoy the area.

9:29:37

We have a lot of restaurants, but we have a lot of health places in Sansa Harbor.

9:29:41

And the good thing about the health places they get monthly fee and they're able to pay their lease.

9:29:47

Versus like a restaurant like um like the one that just closed next to the 18th sunset.

9:29:54

He was 50,000 a month, please.

9:29:56

How much food that he had to get is still still hard to sell in order to make 50,000 a month.

9:30:02

And the price went up.

9:30:04

So you have to you have to develop it or have the vision, put the vision or how it's going to be on top and how it's going to be on the bottom.

9:30:10

So people will be walking around there, they don't have to join anywhere.

9:30:13

We're not having it, which we love.

9:30:15

We have three supermarkets.

9:30:18

So I'm just giving you that hint that that's very important for people who are here in affordable places to go eat.

9:30:26

Not like super expensive.

9:30:27

You're paying 1500, you have to bring the family.

9:30:35

Thank you.

9:30:36

Thank you.

9:30:37

Next caller is Jane Krupp.

9:30:42

Uh good evening, everyone.

9:30:43

I think it's the evening.

9:30:44

Jane Krupp 1390 Ocean Drive.

9:30:46

Um, I'm a designer, work with a lot of architects and city planners.

9:30:51

Coming from New York, where I moved in 1974 to the Soho area, which was called Hell Hundred Acres.

9:31:00

And what happened?

9:31:01

Why is it now uh getting over $500,000 a month rent from high-end luxury stores?

9:31:09

It's because people moved in there and lived there and put in their sweat equity.

9:31:14

And we had terrible landlords.

9:31:17

We had very bad property owners.

9:31:19

And what happened was people moved in, took some risks, and those properties became valuable organically.

9:31:26

It's called, and I feel like this discussion is all about the weeds and not about what the bigger issue is, which is called gentrification.

9:31:35

Gentrification, you guys don't have to invent the wheel.

9:31:38

You just need to read and study and learn how other cities have gentrified their burnt out neighborhoods because that's what Washington Avenue is.

9:31:46

It has no value because the people, the property owners there don't value it.

9:31:50

So let them flip to new owners, to professional developers.

9:31:54

That's what happened in Soho.

9:31:55

We went to Albany.

9:31:57

I was very active for 45 years, and we got resident live work, um, joint living working legalized, which was revolutionary.

9:32:06

That's the whole start of you know, live work.

9:32:09

So it's called gentrification.

9:32:11

You have to figure out as a government what the vision is for Washington Avenue.

9:32:16

If you want to do nothing, which is sounds like what you're gonna do because you can't agree about the weeds of the problem, where the vision is gentrification.

9:32:25

How do you bring up real estate value?

9:32:27

The government doesn't do that.

9:32:29

It's an organic economic uh development that happens by certain people taking risks.

9:32:34

You're not gonna get a wall of high rises, you're gonna get a few developers that are gonna come in and start the ball rolling, and then it becomes an organic process.

9:32:42

You don't need the government.

9:32:44

Thank you.

9:32:44

Our next caller is Charlie.

9:32:46

Please state your name.

9:33:10

All two-story buildings, it's super luxury.

9:33:13

So let's just drop the fallacy of like we need height increases in order to have nice things.

9:33:17

That's not true.

9:33:18

The second thing is you guys are all very smart political people.

9:33:22

You know that the overwhelming majority of this neighborhood does not want these height increases, that these are being pushed by developer interests, and we know that you know that.

9:33:31

So we know that you're aware of our position, right?

9:33:34

A lot of you, all of you campaigned on uh uh representing resident interests over developers.

9:33:40

Well, now's your chance to put uh actions where your mouth was.

9:33:43

I saw all the campaign literature, you all talked about putting our needs over developers.

9:33:47

Well, today's the vote that will decide if you were serious about that or if that was just an empty campaign promise.

9:33:53

Thank you so much.

9:33:54

Thank you.

9:33:55

Next caller is Mark Needle.

9:34:01

Hello.

9:34:01

Um I uh missed a lot of the conversation.

9:34:05

I just found this was going on, but uh uh I wanted to say that I've uh spoken with uh uh Scott Needleman uh about the Flamingo Park Neighborhood Association.

9:34:18

Uh and and it's really a shame that the we do not did not know in time to have a position uh to be able to be part of this conversation as a neighborhood association.

9:34:31

We are the successful affordable uh relatively affordable housing neighborhood that is right alongside uh Washington Avenue, and uh the resident right to know ordinance says that the city should use good faith to ensure that we as resident the neighbor the affected neighborhood association have an opportunity to uh impact this uh direction here.

9:34:55

So I'd ask you to continue this.

9:35:00

It sounds like there's some some good ideas in here, some questionable ideas in here, and I really feel like the neighborhood should have an opportunity to weigh in and that somebody should make a motion to continue this matter so that we can give you some informed uh direction.

9:35:14

Thank you.

9:35:15

Our next caller is Johan Moore good evening, uh Commissioners.

9:35:24

Uh as a member of the now I believe nine uh member uh Flamingo Park Neighborhood Association land use subcommittee.

9:35:34

I would join in Mark's request that you in fact not vote on this tonight, but rather postpone this until the 25th in order for Flamingo Park Neighborhood Association uh to have the possibility to develop its position uh uh and and endorse or modify the subcommittee's recommendations at our monthly meeting next Monday, uh, an in-person meeting.

9:36:03

Uh I will change hats from that membership of the subcommittee to make personal comments.

9:36:11

Uh I was heartened to hear the acknowledgement of the problem of warehousing, typically of uh residential units, especially in other cities, not so much apparently in ours here, uh though Airbnb is a form of warehousing.

9:36:27

Um, but uh I believe there's also been a reluctance to do anything about that.

9:36:31

Uh possibly there may not be a tool you have to deal with that.

9:36:35

I was less heartened, but I acknowledge uh Commissioner Bott's uh uh concerns about TDRs.

9:36:42

Uh the uh problem with that is that the 13 million square feet of FAR in South Beach that is unused, much of that cannot be used.

9:36:53

So it's essentially locked up value that in the absence of a TDR, uh a transfer of development rights uh scheme or proposal um cannot be used to support renovation, restoration, resilience of those contributing buildings.

9:37:11

Uh I want to suggest that uh a right sizing of this project might be arrived at by working backwards from what it is that the city, sorry.

9:37:24

Nick, there's no at least uh with the city attorney deputy city chief attorney.

9:37:31

There is no TDRs in this program, correct?

9:37:33

No, not in the draft that's before you.

9:37:35

No, okay.

9:37:36

I think there was talk about it at the planning board.

9:37:38

And yeah, I never proposed that.

9:37:40

So just want to make sure that we're all aware that there are this legislation has no TDRs.

9:37:45

That's correct.

9:37:46

Next caller is Lori Bakum.

9:37:51

We're expecting Laurie, please unmute yourself.

9:37:59

Yeah.

9:38:00

Lori Bacum, Miami Beach resident since 1992.

9:38:05

Um, I didn't plan to speak on this issue, but I do want to um say a few words.

9:38:13

Um yeah, as a longtime resident and real estate broker of historic properties in Miami Beach, I send a recommendation in to the commission about opening up the upper levels of existing Washington Avenue properties to live work zoning.

9:38:35

And the only commissioner at that time, and this will give you a timeline of the day, uh, that responded was Joy Malakoff, who also supported that, but there just was no will at that time to change to any residential zoning.

9:38:48

So I don't have an opinion on whether this current proposal is the best or not, but I do believe that getting people living on Washington Avenue is very important, and I would like the commission to and the city government to consider ways that live work opportunities can also be incentivized because I do believe to bring in not just families but also young professionals that have exited Miami Beach over the last 20 years and especially the last 10 are entrepreneurs and designers and artists that we want to bring back.

9:39:31

And I believe if you can find a way to incentivize that, it will be very helpful.

9:39:35

Thank you.

9:39:37

Our next caller is Adam Shadroff.

9:39:47

Mr.

9:39:47

Sudroff, go ahead, please.

9:39:51

Please unmute yourself.

9:39:54

Okay, there's no other callers.

9:39:56

Is there anyone in the audience?

9:40:00

Welcome, Troy.

9:40:01

Hi.

9:40:02

You know, I feel like this is Christmas in February.

9:40:06

For a long time, we have been asking and talked about changes on Washington Avenue.

9:40:12

Someone pay attention.

9:40:13

And I'm happy that this group is paying attention to Washington Avenue.

9:40:18

Thank you very much.

9:40:19

Now, do we agree with everything that has been put out there?

9:40:22

Absolutely not.

9:40:23

And I'm happy that at least we're getting input, getting different interpretations, and we hope that something comes out of this.

9:40:30

Now, if you were to look at this from the perspective of the property owners, they look at this a little different than you do on why they have not done certain things out of certain fears and certain hesitations.

9:40:43

But they do want to do something.

9:40:46

They do want to see a change on Washington Avenue.

9:40:49

And the more that they can be involved in those decisions, I think that the easier this process will be.

9:40:56

So as we move forward, whatever it takes, Washington Avenue, we want to be involved.

9:41:01

Just sitting there during this cycle, my phone lit up, speaking of Christmas, like a Christmas tree from property owners.

9:41:08

They have different questions, at least five or six different questions on what will this actually how will this affect Washington Avenue?

9:41:17

Has anyone done a financial analysis on this?

9:41:20

What questions that were asked about sewage, you name it, all of it has come out.

9:41:24

So whatever direction that is decided, first I thank you, I commend you for even taking this on.

9:41:29

You're brave enough to do it.

9:41:31

We support change.

9:41:32

We need help on Washington Avenue, as most of you have heard me say many times before.

9:41:37

If it's resident, let's do it.

9:41:39

Um if it's incentives in other ways, let's do those as well.

9:41:42

But Washington here is here to support, we want change.

9:41:46

Thank you.

9:41:47

That concludes uh public comment period.

9:41:49

So to make uh Mr.

9:41:50

Mayor.

9:41:51

Commissioner Fernandez, I heard first, and then Commissioner Suarezna uh let's bring it home.

9:41:55

Yeah, I just wanted to just suggest you know there's a lot of good ideas, there's a lot of good in this policy.

9:42:01

I think there's a path forward.

9:42:03

I think we should talk and land use.

9:42:05

You know, one of the callers mentioned you know, TDRs, you know, because we do have those 13 million square feet of unused FAR.

9:42:15

That let's say and we we currently have a TDR study that we're doing, Tom.

9:42:20

Is that correct?

9:42:20

That we were advancing through the land use committee.

9:42:23

Uh what's the status of that TDR study?

9:42:25

Correct.

9:42:26

The consultant that we retain is finishing that up, and we're expecting it to be ready uh no later than the end of February.

9:42:33

You know, there's different things that we can look at.

9:42:35

We can look at you know, transferring existing FAR into Washington Avenue in a way that reinvests in historic buildings and and helps our our historic buildings.

9:42:47

We can look at um lowering the threshold, the voting threshold, saying if you go up to for as long as you don't exceed 4.0 FAR in your request, we'll approve it through a five-seventh vote or through an expedited process.

9:43:04

From everything that I've heard on the days, it seems like that could be something that the body could be agreeable to.

9:43:10

If we send it to land use, we can iron this out so that we can hopefully pass something that developers can use to bring residents into the area.

9:43:22

I'd like to refer this to land use.

9:43:24

I have a second.

9:43:26

I'm sorry, where?

9:43:27

Okay.

9:43:28

Okay.

9:43:28

So I have a referral to land use by Commissioner uh Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Bott.

9:43:34

All in favor of referring both R5B and R5C to land use, please say aye.

9:43:39

All right.

9:43:40

Any opposed?

9:43:41

The two items are referred to land use, R5B and R5C.

9:43:44

That's that Tom, does that go to the next one?

9:43:48

You um you can certainly have it placed on the next available land use committee.

9:43:52

Please do that.

9:43:52

Okay.

9:43:53

So at the next land use meeting.

9:44:02

Let's do uh the boards and committees.

9:44:07

Everyone has a blue R9, R9B.

9:44:12

So let me know if you don't if you can't find yours, and you also have small pads and pencils for you to vote if necessary.

9:44:21

Mr.

9:44:22

Mr.

9:44:22

Mayor.

9:44:24

That's me.

9:44:29

What a privilege.

9:44:31

I would like to make a comment about one of the well, actually, two of the nominees for um one of the boards.

9:44:44

It's the human rights committee.

9:44:46

You want to get to it when we're there?

9:44:49

Are we gonna get all right?

9:44:52

I can go in order.

9:44:54

We can go to whatever you're doing.

9:44:55

Let's just go to the human rights committee now that that's possible.

9:44:59

Get it out of the way.

9:45:00

Let's go let's go in order of then when we get to it.

9:45:04

So did everyone find their blue paper?

9:45:06

If not, I have an extra couple of extra ones.

9:45:08

Okay.

9:45:09

So we're gonna go in order for the first one.

9:45:11

Is the ad hoc city lighting plan advisory committee?

9:45:14

I believe the appointment.

9:45:16

We have one vacant seat, one nominee.

9:45:18

May we do so by acclamation?

9:45:20

Yes.

9:45:21

Yes.

9:45:22

I know in the past we've done wherever there's not a lot of the questions.

9:45:25

That's what I'm trying to do.

9:45:26

Yeah.

9:45:26

So that's the first one by acclamation.

9:45:28

Jack Jacob intrator.

9:45:30

Okay.

9:45:31

The second one is requires a vote.

9:45:34

This is the ad hoc city sanitation advisory committee.

9:45:37

You have two nominees, Jocelyn Mahone and Billy McAllister.

9:45:41

This is for the one vacant seat available for the city as a la as large at large.

9:45:48

Just for the record, Mr.

9:45:49

McAlster has not completed the application as of yesterday.

9:45:54

So you don't have anything to read on that.

9:45:58

I'll move the appointment of Jocelyn Mahone.

9:46:04

Can we do that by acclamation seven zero?

9:46:06

Yes.

9:46:08

Affordable housing committee.

9:46:11

The mayor nominated the vice mayor to be the city representative, the commission representative.

9:46:16

If she accepts, we could do this one by acclamation.

9:46:19

So I accept.

9:46:20

So congratulations, Vice Mayor.

9:46:25

On the I'm sorry, I have a question.

9:46:28

Um somebody doesn't get appointed to a board that he or she is interested in, but has also expressed interest in affordable housing.

9:46:37

Can we come back and nominate them while we're all here together?

9:46:40

Yes, as long as that person meets the minimal qualification for whatever position, what I could do is I could put that person in, and if it doesn't match, then I could come back next meeting.

9:46:49

Okay.

9:46:49

So for where they are at affordable housing.

9:46:52

Uh there has been a withdrawal of Inez Inez Flax.

9:46:56

So with that, you have six seats are available, and you have five nominees.

9:47:03

If you wish to do it, you could appoint everyone by acclamation.

9:47:07

So moved.

9:47:10

We're now on page three, and we're at the animal welfare committee.

9:47:13

So B Cats has nominated Lisa Samuel as their rep.

9:47:16

We can do that by acclamation.

9:47:19

So moved.

9:47:20

Everyone agrees.

9:47:21

Art in public spaces requires a vote.

9:47:24

So just for the record, Steve Burke is a nominee.

9:47:28

He's a current member.

9:47:29

Monica Eulitz is a new nominee.

9:47:37

And Marcella Novella is also a nominee.

9:47:40

So your two reappointments would be Steve Burke and Lazo, but you can vote up to three individuals.

9:47:47

So if you wish to vote.

9:47:50

Yes, please.

9:47:50

So you can vote up to three individuals.

9:47:54

So Burke, Eulitz, Lazo, Ovella.

9:48:49

Okay.

9:48:54

So Commissioner Bott is voting for Burke.

9:49:00

Lazo.

9:49:03

And Novella.

9:49:06

Commissioner Suarez is voting for Burke.

9:49:10

And Novella.

9:49:14

Commissioner Fernandez is voting for Burke.

9:49:18

Novella.

9:49:20

And Lazo.

9:49:24

Commissioner Dominguez is voting for Burke.

9:49:29

And Lazo.

9:49:35

Vice Mayor Monica, I don't recognize her signature, so it's the first time I see it.

9:49:39

Commissioner Vice Mayor Monica Potasilinas is voting for Burke.

9:49:45

Okay.

9:49:46

Lazo and Marcella Novella.

9:49:53

Mayor Minor is voting for Steven Burke.

9:49:57

Monica Ulitz and Lazo.

9:50:03

And Commissioner Magazine, Burke, Lazo, Novella.

9:50:09

Kayla, can you tell us what the votes are, please?

9:50:17

Steven Burke has seven votes.

9:50:27

So those are the three top vote getters and are appointed.

9:50:32

Next category on page four.

9:50:35

Black Affairs Committee, one nominee, one seat, Valerie Crawford for reappointment.

9:50:40

May we do that by acclamation?

9:50:42

Yes.

9:50:42

So moved.

9:50:44

Board of Adjustment, James Silvers can be done by acclamation.

9:50:48

It is a reappointment.

9:50:50

So moved.

9:50:52

General General Business Category, Janet Silverman is a reappointment.

9:50:57

One nominee, one seat.

9:50:59

So moved.

9:51:00

By acclamation.

9:51:02

This one we need for budget advisory committee.

9:51:04

We need uh we need a vote.

9:51:07

We have two individuals, David Borg and former Commissioner Whitehorn.

9:51:12

This is for the CPA seat.

9:51:14

On this one, I want to make a clarification.

9:51:16

There was a third nominee that I cannot place because they haven't done the application.

9:51:19

So I couldn't place that person.

9:51:22

So as of this moment, they're they're not nominated for this category.

9:51:27

So we have David Borg and Commissioner Whitehorn.

9:51:45

Okay, let her do that.

9:52:05

So uh Vice Mayor Monica uh Mateo Salinas votes for Whitehorn, Commissioner Suarez for Berg.

9:52:14

Borg.

9:52:15

I'm sorry.

9:52:18

Borg.

9:52:18

Borg, okay, sorry.

9:52:20

Uh Commissioner Bott for Commissioner Whitehorn.

9:52:25

Commissioner Magazine for Whitehorn.

9:52:29

Hair Miner for Borg.

9:52:32

Commissioner Dominguez for Whitehorn.

9:52:35

And Commissioner Fernandez for Commissioner Whitehorn with a heart at the end for his former boss.

9:52:41

Commissioner Whitehorn is appointed.

9:52:46

We're now going to page five.

9:52:50

Convention center advisory board.

9:52:52

The Palmview resident has been nominated by Palmview.

9:52:55

It is Dylan Fillion.

9:52:57

Can we do that by acclamation?

9:52:59

Moved.

9:52:59

So by acclamation, appointed.

9:53:02

The convention center uh rep as the ex-official member of the management company is Freddie Peterson.

9:53:08

May we do that by acclamation?

9:53:10

So moved.

9:53:12

For cultural arts on page five, there's uh five nominees, six seats.

9:53:16

We could do all that by acclamation.

9:53:18

By acclamation.

9:53:19

Cultural arts council is done by acclamation.

9:53:22

Design review board, we have Andres Ocion uh, one seat, one uh nominee.

9:53:28

We could do that by acclamation.

9:53:30

So moved.

9:53:31

Appointed.

9:53:33

Uh for the resident at large category.

9:53:35

We need a vote on that.

9:53:36

We have two nominees, Nathan Beckerman and Jessica Mindich.

9:53:41

Uh this is for the one vacant seat available for the three consecutive years of residency required.

9:53:47

Design review board.

9:53:48

Beckerman Mindich.

9:54:26

Mayor Minor for Mr.

9:54:28

Beckerman.

9:54:30

Commissioner Suarez for Mr.

9:54:32

Beckerman.

9:54:34

Commissioner Magazine Mindich, Ms.

9:54:36

Mindich, Commissioner Fernandez, Ms.

9:54:39

Mendich, Commissioner Dominguez, Ms.

9:54:41

Mindic, Vice Mayor Monica Mateus Salinas, Ms.

9:54:45

Mindic, and Commissioner Bott, Ms.

9:54:47

Mindic.

9:54:48

Ms.

9:54:48

Mindich is appointed.

9:54:51

Raphael.

9:55:00

Raphael, um, I had a really great conversation with Nathan uh yesterday or the day before, and one of his um uh choices for uh a board was the Affordable Housing Committee, and I suggested if he were not to prevail today for this seat, would he be interested in that seat?

9:55:12

And he said he would.

9:55:13

So I'd like to nominate him.

9:55:14

I'll second that uh for that.

9:55:17

So we could do that by acclamation if you wish, because we have more seats than we have nominees.

9:55:23

So Mr.

9:55:24

Beckerman will be appointed to affordable housing, assuming that he meets one of the criteria of the open seats.

9:55:30

I think he does, but I'll check just in case.

9:55:32

Okay, thanks.

9:55:33

Uh we are now on page seven.

9:55:35

Uh the water management seat on the design review board is Ms.

9:55:40

Lewin.

9:55:41

Uh we could do that by acclamation at the reappointment.

9:55:43

So moved.

9:55:44

The general obligation bond oversight committee.

9:55:47

We could do all these by acclamation if you so wish.

9:55:49

Kate Mosley for for the resident.

9:55:51

Uh two seats are available for mid-beach.

9:55:54

Mr.

9:55:54

Coslow, Mr.

9:55:55

Kessler, and the resident from the North Beach is one seat available.

9:55:59

Mr.

9:55:59

Smith, we can do all those by acclamation if you wish on page 7.

9:56:02

So moved.

9:56:06

We're on page eight.

9:56:08

Again, we could do all these by acclamation.

9:56:10

We're with Mr.

9:56:11

Bruce Halperin still in the general obligation bond for the one seat is available is cultural facilities.

9:56:18

We could do that by acclamation, please.

9:56:20

Moved.

9:56:21

Uh health advisory committee, all these could be done by acclamation.

9:56:24

Uh uh nursing profession, uh Susan Gatzer Schneider and uh Dr.

9:56:30

Jacobs.

9:56:31

These are wannabe appointments of Dr.

9:56:33

Jacob that can be done by acclamation.

9:56:35

So moved.

9:56:36

Thank you.

9:56:37

Uh historic preservation board for the one seat at large.

9:56:40

Mr.

9:56:41

Breslin is the only nominee, and it's a reappointment.

9:56:43

Can we do that by acclamation?

9:56:45

So moved.

9:56:47

We are now in the architect position.

9:56:50

Ms.

9:56:51

Camargo, Ms.

9:56:52

Camargo is uh requested to be reappointed.

9:56:57

And Haskell Meyer for the water management seat.

9:57:00

We could do those two by acclamation if you wish.

9:57:03

Yes.

9:57:05

We're now at the human rights committee.

9:57:06

There are seven vacant seats, and we have I'd like to speak on that.

9:57:11

Commissioner Suarez.

9:57:12

Commissioner Suarez.

9:57:13

Thank you.

9:57:14

Um, I want to clearly state my objection to Amanda Knapp's appointment as chair of the human rights committee, or her to her appointment, and why I believe she should not be confirmed for the sake of the committee's effectiveness, credibility, and its working relationship with staff.

9:57:30

I want to be very clear.

9:57:31

This is not about ideology or disagreement.

9:57:35

It's about temperament, professionalism, and whether someone is suited to chair a committee whose mission is human rights.

9:57:43

In my own experience, Ms.

9:57:44

Knapp has public publicly referred to me as a puppet bitch commissioner.

9:57:49

That alone reflects a level of hostility and disrespect that is incompatible with a leadership role meant to foster dialogue, inclusion, and mutual respect.

9:58:00

Beyond that, I've heard directly from our city manager, Eric Carpenter, who has confirmed that he and others have described Ms.

9:58:07

Knapp's interactions with staff as combative, abrasive, including instances where co-workers are berated to the point of tears, both internally and during public board meetings.

9:58:19

The chair of the human rights committee must be someone who can de-escalate conflict, work constructively with staff, and bring people together across differences.

9:58:29

Whatever one thinks of Ms.

9:58:30

Knapp's past passion or advocacy, this pattern of behavior raises serious concerns about her ability to lead in that capacity.

9:58:39

For this committee's credibility and the well-being of our staff members, for those reasons, I urge my colleagues to carefully reconsider these concerns and vote against this confirmation.

9:58:49

In fact, I'd like to read into the record uh an email that I have from Lauren Hernandez to Marla, our HR director.

9:58:58

Hi, Marla.

9:58:59

Please note that Muriel Thomas came into my office visibly upset in tears and clearly frustrated following a human rights committee meeting.

9:59:08

She explained that Amanda Knapp had spoken to her in an extremely rude and disrespectful manner in front of the entire committee.

9:59:16

Muriel was so upset by the interaction that she felt compelled to report it to me, noting that the behavior was inappropriate and unprofessional.

9:59:24

According to Muriel, the exchange was so concerning that one of the committee members had to stop in and tell Amanda not to speak to her in that way.

9:59:33

And PJ, I'd like you show a video of uh of Amanda One way we can fight that.

9:59:40

And it's not gonna be by appealing to morality of these lunatics who are up there just very willing to be subservient to honestly a group of voters, excuse me, freaking they wanted us to be silent, our own local government commissioner wanted us to be silent.

9:59:58

There's only one way we can fight.

10:00:00

Yeah, you could you could stop it.

10:00:02

Now, guys, uh I think Commissioner Fernandez, I think at the beginning of the of the meeting, you said as I go through my committee appointments today, as I cast my vote on committee appointments.

10:00:15

I'm not going to be voting for individuals who are using their platforms to promote hate and division in our community.

10:00:21

I took it.

10:00:22

If you're I'm not supporting Ms.

10:00:23

Knapps for this committee.

10:00:25

I too for thank you for stating that because that these same comments is what would have applied with to Ms.

10:00:32

Flax and PJ.

10:00:33

I don't know if you have the image of that I that that I emailed to you.

10:00:38

Uh this is thank you, because our board and committee appointments need to be about the good of the city.

10:00:45

There's national politics, partisan politics.

10:00:49

That division, let that stay somewhere else.

10:00:52

Here we need to be unifying.

10:00:55

And it's the same reason why I wasn't going to support an S.

10:00:58

Flax who wrote Demoncrats are the party of Satan.

10:01:02

You know, they're there it is, in S Flax.

10:01:05

She had been nominated to serve uh on the affordable housing advisory committee.

10:01:10

I think Commissioner SARS by you.

10:01:12

And as soon as I saw that, yeah, I removed it.

10:01:15

Literally, the moment you said that, I went over to Raphael.

10:01:18

I said, Rafael, remove the people like that should not be serving in these committees.

10:01:23

When you're saying that Democrats are demon rats in the party of Satan, you're talking to every single Democrat in this city.

10:01:31

That that's what they are.

10:01:32

And the same thing with on the opposite side.

10:01:36

Um, you know, we cannot tolerate this divisiveness in our community anymore.

10:01:42

We need to come back together.

10:01:43

And these sports and committees are one of those places where neighbors can work together.

10:01:47

Even when they're of opposite parties, they can find common ground on water issues, on parks issues, on transportation issues that are nonpartisan, and then bring this together.

10:01:59

So yeah, I agree with you.

10:02:00

Through the mayor, I request we ask Commissioner Bott to remove your nomination of Amanda Nett.

10:02:08

Um, you know, I it's I I agree that we need to come to the middle.

10:02:13

Um, I'm I would also put into the record physician heal thyself.

10:02:19

Um you are also an agent of division.

10:02:23

How much money did you spend against somebody who you weren't even running against?

10:02:27

I don't know what that applies to this item, Commissioner.

10:02:30

I'm saying what's good for the goose is good for the case.

10:02:33

I'm not calling anyone a derogatory term.

10:02:35

I mean, I figured.

10:02:36

Excuse me.

10:02:37

I'm speaking.

10:02:37

I do.

10:02:38

You're asking me a question.

10:02:39

I'm simply answering.

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I never would I would never call another commissioner a puppet bitch.

10:02:44

And if I ever, if I ever appointed someone who would have talked to you that way, or Commissioner Dominguez, or anyone up here, I would have immediately removed my appointment.

10:02:56

Immediately, and that's exactly what I did within S.

10:02:59

Flax today.

10:03:00

I didn't wait a second.

10:03:01

And I did the right thing because I know that people like that should not be representing our city.

10:03:07

So it's a very simple yes or no.

10:03:10

Can I finish my comments, please?

10:03:13

Thank you so much.

10:03:15

I was not answering your question yet.

10:03:17

I was pointing out that there should be no double standard for people who are elected into office versus people who are appointed into committees.

10:03:27

I did not know about that comment.

10:03:29

I will there.

10:03:31

I was there in the back talking to other people.

10:03:34

I made very different comments.

10:03:35

I purposely left you out of the video of respect for your office.

10:03:38

So you can show what I said because what I said was not about that.

10:03:42

What I said very clearly, and feel free to show it, not the edited version that you have on YouTube floating around.

10:03:48

What I said very clearly, and Brandon was there filming.

10:03:51

I said very clearly, you are a citizen of this country.

10:03:56

You are permitted to use your voice to express your dissatisfaction to the government.

10:04:01

And if that is a comfortable, if that is a statement that you're not comfortable with, that's a that's a you problem.

10:04:07

My comment was as we are making our committees better.

10:04:12

I would suggest we do the same with our colleagues.

10:04:16

And I think it's surprising given the last five months.

10:04:20

I will withdraw my nomination.

10:04:23

I do not believe she was being nominated.

10:04:25

Oh, she was going to be the chair.

10:04:28

Uh I will commend her for her work that I know she's passionate about, but I don't think that that kind of rhetoric is uh appropriate, and certainly making staff pry is not appropriate.

10:04:40

So I'm removing.

10:04:42

Thank you.

10:04:42

So for human rights, we have Mr.

10:04:45

Burns, Mr.

10:04:46

Martinez, and Ms.

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Rogers.

10:04:48

They could all be done by acclamation.

10:04:49

So moved.

10:04:51

We're now on page 10.

10:04:53

Uh next generation council.

10:04:55

We appointment of Mr.

10:04:56

Kozarak can be done by uh acclamation.

10:04:59

So moved.

10:05:00

Uh and the Mr.

10:05:02

Ms.

10:05:02

The Sant from the Miami Beach Chamber's rep can be done by uh acclamation.

10:05:08

So moved.

10:05:09

The Normandy Shores local government neighborhood improvement has nominated to be appointment of Ms.

10:05:13

Nagler as a rep.

10:05:15

We do that by nominate uh by acclamation.

10:05:18

Yes.

10:05:19

We're now on page 11.

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This is the North Beach Community Redevelopment Agency.

10:05:25

We have three seats.

10:05:26

You can vote up to three individuals.

10:05:28

I'm going to say their names.

10:05:30

It's uh Igor Desijadovic.

10:05:33

Uh Samuel Latone, who is the current member, so that would be a reappointment if you wish to do that.

10:05:39

Manning Salazar is the current member, so that would be a reappointment.

10:05:43

Laura VTIA.

10:05:45

So those are your nominees.

10:05:48

Igor, Samuel, Manning, and Laura.

10:05:52

You could vote up to three individuals.

10:06:00

I have a comment about this, Mr.

10:06:02

Mayor.

10:06:03

Commissioner Suarez.

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Um I want to be very clear.

10:06:08

Again, this is not personal, and it's not about questioning anyone's integrity.

10:06:12

It's about common sense government and public trust.

10:06:15

The North Beach CRA isn't a symbolic board.

10:06:20

It controls redevelopment policy and public money.

10:06:24

And it is expected to play a role in housing, including affordable housing and workforce housing.

10:06:30

Appointing the co-owner of a property managed firm creates a built-in conflict of interest.

10:06:37

Because CRA decisions that lead to more housing units and higher density also creates more properties that need to be managed.

10:06:45

That's not hypothetical.

10:06:47

That's how business works.

10:06:49

And because housing comes up again and again, this isn't something that can just be fixed with an occasion, occasional recruisal.

10:06:56

And to be clear, this is not about qualifications.

10:06:59

Many people are qualified.

10:07:01

The question is whether someone's private business interests align too closely with the decisions the board is expected to make.

10:08:20

So I think that is a super, I think that's a big conflict of interest.

10:08:24

We just had an opening on the human rights council.

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I think if you know if uh Ms.

10:08:31

Laura Vikila wants to serve a city board, I think that's we just had an opening.

10:08:36

But right now, I think good consciousness, I certainly can put someone who has clearly a conflict of interest on the decision making of the North Beach CRA.

10:08:50

Mr.

10:08:50

Mayor.

10:08:51

Commissioner Fernandez.

10:08:53

Mr.

10:08:54

Attorney, what is the authority of the North Beach CRA?

10:08:58

Do they have decision-making authority?

10:09:00

Or are they plainly advisory?

10:09:03

They're they're advisory.

10:09:04

They're advisory.

10:09:05

And so even this body, which is the governing body of the uh North Beach CRA, we are the board of directors.

10:09:15

So they're advisory to us.

10:09:17

We're the board of directors.

10:09:18

The main purpose of a community redevelopment agency is to administer funds, tax increments that come into the fund.

10:09:28

We may want to do that, but it's all subject to a budget.

10:09:31

Is that correct?

10:09:32

That is correct.

10:09:33

And is that budget approved by by the North Beach CRA advisory board?

10:09:38

No, it's approved by the county and by the board of the CRA.

10:09:41

So the CRA, which is all of us, the board of the CRA, and then it's the county.

10:09:46

That's correct.

10:09:47

All right.

10:09:47

So this individual really doesn't have you know their advisory, just like any other stakeholder, does like Flores and community resinus and all that, um, but they really don't have any real decision-making authority over the CRA.

10:10:07

Their role is advisory in nature, they make recommendations through motions.

10:10:11

Is is it any different than like when we appoint you know real estate developers to certain categories on the planning board or or the BOA or anything like that?

10:10:24

Well, the the truth of any ethics question is it's always going to be a fact factually determined um answer.

10:10:31

So I can see what you're driving at, and yes, there is similarities, but I wouldn't be able to answer specifically because it's all gonna be fact-driven.

10:10:39

I get what you're saying, Commissioner Suarez, but I it's an advisory committee, and we are the ones that ultimately make decisions.

10:10:47

There's been times we haven't agreed with their recommendations and we have intercepted them.

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And when it comes to issues of ultimately dollars and cents, it's approved by us, and then it has to be approved by the Board of County Commissioners.

10:11:01

Um I don't see, you know, I get where you're coming from, and I and and I respect it, but you know, she's also a resident.

10:11:10

Um she's been a long-time stakeholder.

10:11:14

Um and they deserve, they deserve, you know, respect.

10:11:19

I don't like to call them out this way in public.

10:11:21

You know, they they they she's been serving there.

10:11:25

Uh I think she's been serving there, hasn't she?

10:11:27

Um no, maybe her brother did.

10:11:29

But uh they're also a very philanthropic family.

10:11:32

Um, they help pay for many things in the North Beach Fountain area, and um long-term residents, and are there bylaws saying that it it's uh preventing her from serving because it's a conflict of interest, or is it just an opinion?

10:11:49

Well, if if we wanted to request that she request an opinion from the Commission on Ethics, that would be something that could be.

10:11:56

But there's no bylaws, is what I'm saying.

10:11:58

I I I do not see an immediate conflict, but I'm not the arbiter of conflicts of interest.

10:12:03

But but but let me ask you a question.

10:12:05

Aren't there other business owners that are also from the North Beach area that are part of the CRA?

10:12:11

Yes, absolutely.

10:12:12

So why would we make one business owner go through a different process than any other business?

10:12:16

Because it's a type of business, it's the type of business that they that that she has.

10:12:19

I mean she's a lot of people.

10:12:20

She has a conflict.

10:12:21

I missed what was the conflict between the her type of business and property management.

10:12:25

Okay.

10:12:25

So you know the North Beach CRA, 10% of the budget has to go to affordable housing.

10:12:31

And I just look, I've been very cautious of conflicts of interest as as soon as I got onto this role.

10:12:38

And I think the the more far removed away from where whether it's advisory, non-advisory, I think it just puts us in a better position for public trust.

10:12:48

That's all.

10:12:48

Look, and I think we all are.

10:12:50

I think I I think it's not just you, you know, we all are very very very mindful of avoiding conflict of interest, but that's like saying a florist can't be there because more development will drive more, you know, husbands to go buy flowers for their wives that's a stuff that's home at night.

10:13:06

Yeah, no, it's not a stretch.

10:13:08

Respectfully, that's a stretch.

10:13:09

When you have a monopoly on property management, I mean that it it is different.

10:13:13

I mean, it's not a flower shop.

10:13:15

It's it's let's call a vote.

10:13:17

So you can vote up to three individuals?

10:13:19

The one thing I just want to mention is that if she ever wanted to do business with the city, then she would need to seek an opinion from the Ethics Commission.

10:13:27

But that's with any business.

10:13:30

Correct.

10:13:34

We got to pick three.

10:14:05

They all a bunch of them do at the end of all uh so I have Mayor nominates or votes for Igor DeSandakoff.

10:14:16

Samuel Latone and Laura Vittia.

10:14:21

Commissioner Suarez votes for Igor.

10:14:29

Commissioner Fernandez votes for Latone, Salazar and Vetia.

10:14:39

Commissioner Dominguez votes for Latone, Salazar and Aitia.

10:14:47

Commissioner uh Vice Mayor Monica Matel Salinas votes for Laton, Salazar and Vetia.

10:14:55

Commissioner Bot votes for Latone, Salazar and Vetia.

10:15:01

Commissioner Vagazine votes for Igor.

10:15:05

Sam Latone and Manning Salazar.

10:15:10

Keda, can you call the vote, please?

10:15:14

So if you have to point it.

10:15:16

Yeah, what the members are San Latone with six votes.

10:15:21

Manny Salazard with five votes.

10:15:24

And Laura Baitia with five votes.

10:15:28

So because these individuals got more than the required for those requiring the waiver, they got more than the required five-sevenths vote.

10:15:36

So that the waivers are also taking place.

10:15:39

So we are now going to do, we're on page 12, and we're going to do Romina Orozco Encio for the business owner category.

10:15:48

She's the only nominee.

10:15:51

So if we could do that by acclamation.

10:15:56

So moved.

10:15:57

Thank you.

10:15:58

For the real estate industry professional, we have Mr.

10:16:01

Eisenberg.

10:16:02

And that is also can be done by acclamation, please.

10:16:05

So moved.

10:16:06

For the Parks and Recreation Board, uh, two vacant seats are available, you through recreational program, and you have two nominees.

10:16:13

Can we do that by acclamation?

10:16:14

Yeah, Ralph.

10:16:15

Actually, one of my nominees, I think she's already serving on that board, maybe you just under a different title.

10:16:20

Is that correct?

10:16:21

These are the at-large categories.

10:16:23

So you probably have your direct, is what you're thinking of.

10:16:26

These are at large and they were vacant.

10:16:30

But uh Elizabeth Alper Williams, I see that she's already been appointed to another position by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:16:38

On the Parkson rank, right?

10:16:40

I guess.

10:16:41

Thanks, bro.

10:16:43

We could we could do two ways.

10:16:45

We could either move her here and the commissioner has a new seat, or we can no, yeah, we can't keep her my seat, and that way we have to do that.

10:16:53

So we'll verify that.

10:16:54

But so if that if that's the case, then uh Gordon Vogomilski could be appointed by acclamation.

10:17:01

So moved.

10:17:03

And we will bring that vacant seat back for the next meeting.

10:17:07

Uh Gail Durham for the soccer position, that's a reappointment.

10:17:12

So moved.

10:17:16

The personnel board, these could be done by acclamation.

10:17:19

These are both reappointments.

10:17:21

Moved.

10:17:23

The planning board, Jonathan Friedan can be done by acclamation.

10:17:27

So moved.

10:17:29

We're now on page 14.

10:17:31

We have Elizabeth Latone, uh record the education position.

10:17:35

It's a reappointment.

10:17:36

If we could do that by acclamation.

10:17:37

So moved.

10:17:38

Now we have the one seat available.

10:17:40

This requires a vote.

10:17:42

We have Mr.

10:17:43

Cement, Mr.

10:17:44

Gardner, and Ms.

10:17:46

Silverman.

10:17:48

I I'd like to move the reappointment of Yakel Cement.

10:17:55

Would you like to do that by acclamation then?

10:17:57

Yes.

10:17:59

All in favor, say aye.

10:18:00

Aye.

10:18:01

So 7-0, Mr.

10:18:02

Cement is reappointed.

10:18:05

We could do on page 15, everything and that she can be done by acclamation.

10:18:10

We have the attorney licensing practice in the city of Florida.

10:18:13

Mr.

10:18:14

Elias could be done by acclamation.

10:18:15

It's a reappointment.

10:18:17

For the senior affairs committee, the reappointment of Ms.

10:18:20

Diaz Rodriguez for Rebecca Towers can be done by acclamation.

10:18:24

So moved.

10:18:25

For the Transportation Parking Committee, Chris Glode is South Beach Neighborhood Representative nominee.

10:18:36

So moved.

10:18:37

Peter Matos is a reappointment for the North Beach Neighborhood Association.

10:18:42

Billy can pending is when he uh when he signs his paperwork.

10:18:45

If he is appointed, he just has to tell us which North Beach Association membership heat still continues, but it is a reappointment.

10:18:53

Moved.

10:18:54

Acclamation.

10:18:55

Thank you.

10:18:56

We're now on page 16.

10:18:58

We can this is the VCA.

10:19:00

George Gonzalez has been nominated for the hotel industry or are or at large seat.

10:19:05

There's only one nominee in that category.

10:19:07

It can be done by acclamation.

10:19:08

So we have now the two three seats are available for the at-large category.

10:19:14

We have Lisette Garcia, Adrian Gonzalez, Corey Rice is the current member, so that would be a reappointment if you if you so wish.

10:19:25

Christopher Rollins and Sessi Velasco.

10:19:28

So you have Garcia, Gonzalez, Rice, Rollins, and Velasco.

10:19:32

You could vote up to three.

10:19:42

Find myself in a pickle here.

10:19:44

Likewise.

10:19:56

Yes.

10:19:56

And how many would you vote up to three?

10:20:08

Oh, I see your pickle.

10:20:49

Oh my god, it's a question.

10:21:48

You still waiting, Chris?

10:21:50

Oh.

10:21:55

So Commissioner Magazine votes for Cecil, uh Ceci Velasco, Adrian Gonzalez, and Chris Rollins.

10:22:07

Mayor Minor votes for Chris Rollins, Ceci Velasco's, and Corey Rice.

10:22:15

Commissioner Suarez votes for Rollins.

10:22:20

Corey Rice and Adrian Gonzalez.

10:22:26

Commissioner Dominguez votes for Ceci Velasco.

10:22:29

Chris Rollins, Lissette Garcia.

10:22:34

West Mayor Monica Mateo Salinas votes for Lissette Garcia.

10:22:38

Christopher Rollins and Ceci Velasco.

10:22:43

Commissioner Fernandez votes for Adrian Gonzalez.

10:22:47

Ceci Velasco and Lisette Garcia.

10:22:52

Commissioner Bott votes for Rollins, Velasco, and Garcia.

10:22:58

Kayla.

10:23:09

Chris Rollins with six votes.

10:23:12

And Sassy Velasco with six votes.

10:23:16

Thank you.

10:23:17

Mr.

10:23:17

Mayor.

10:23:19

If I may.

10:23:20

Commissioner Fernandez.

10:23:21

Thank you.

10:23:22

I just want to publicly apologize to Corey Rice and Christopher Rollins, especially Christopher, who I know personally.

10:23:42

And so I don't want them to be surprised that I didn't vote for them.

10:23:45

I I apologize publicly that I wasn't able to support them.

10:23:51

And on the last page on page 17, these are just confirmation of direct appointments.

10:23:58

See if we could do that by all by acclamation?

10:24:00

Yeah.

10:24:00

So I went on page seventeen by acclamation.

10:24:04

Thank you.

10:24:10

Thank you, Killer.

10:24:21

So we're done with boards and committees?

10:24:23

Yes, sir.

10:24:24

Let's call R7.

10:24:26

Losing my voice.

10:24:26

R seven A and R7B.

10:24:28

R7A.

10:24:30

R7A is a public hearing.

10:24:32

Adopt second amendment to fiscal year twenty twenty-six operating budget.

10:24:35

R7B public hearing.

10:24:37

Adopt second amendment to fiscal year twenty twenty-six capital budget.

10:24:42

Second.

10:24:42

Yes, I'm going to call the roll.

10:24:44

So the motion by I'm sorry.

10:24:47

I moved.

10:24:50

Okay, got it.

10:24:51

All in favor.

10:24:52

Please say aye.

10:24:53

Uh Mayor Minor is a yes, and Commissioner Bott is a yes.

10:24:57

So these are R7A and B.

10:25:00

So these are R7A and B, just for the record.

10:25:02

This is a public hearing.

10:25:03

There's no one on Zoom, no one in the audience requesting to speak.

10:25:06

R7A or 7B.

10:25:08

So the item is approved 70.

10:25:10

Items.

10:25:11

Thanks.

10:25:12

Thank you.

10:25:13

Call R7AB.

10:25:17

R7AB.

10:25:18

Clean Miami Beach Water Waiver for Collins Park Organization's EcoFest Event R7AB.

10:25:24

So move.

10:25:25

Second.

10:25:26

Motion by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:25:27

Seconded by Commissioner Suarez, R7AB.

10:25:32

By acclamation 7-0.

10:25:35

Yes.

10:25:36

So no one is opposed.

10:25:38

I will confirm that vote with Commissioner Bott when she steps back in.

10:25:43

So that was R7AB.

10:25:47

C 7E.

10:25:52

C7E.

10:25:53

Appoint John Rebar, Director of Parks Facilities, Fleet and Beaches Department.

10:25:58

Separated by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:26:04

Commissioner Fernandez.

10:26:06

Thank you, Mr.

10:26:07

Mayor.

10:26:07

And the reason why I separated this, and let me just go to the item here quickly.

10:26:18

With this item.

10:26:21

We are Mr.

10:26:22

Manager, explain to me your restructuring of department.

10:26:27

Yes, Commissioner, that's correct.

10:26:29

What we've done in this particular case is we have combined the Parks Department with the facilities and fleet department and created the Department of Parks Facilities, Fleet and Beaches.

10:26:46

Okay.

10:26:46

Now she took it.

10:26:51

When we create departments, departments are created by the Commission.

10:26:58

And they're created by the Commission through ordinance.

10:27:02

And then based on those units and those departments that are created by ordinance of the city commission.

10:27:10

Is that then we pass a budget and and there's and there's directors.

10:27:54

It runs, you know, I believe flawlessly.

10:27:58

People appreciate the services.

10:28:01

And I don't want to jeopardize that.

10:28:03

It is the authority of the city commission.

10:28:06

It is the jurisdiction of the city commission to create departments and do that type of of restructuring through ordinance.

10:28:15

And then it's your prerogative to appoint a director.

10:28:19

But we haven't created this department.

10:28:21

And so at a time when we are uh analyzing cost savings and all that before we we do this and potentially I don't I want to get assurances that we're not going to hurt the functionality of the parks department by putting one director in charge of a mega department.

10:28:41

I mean we're in essence pretty much making John even unofficially kind of like an ACM.

10:28:46

Uh even though it's not an assistant manager position with this size of a portfolio, it's almost like an ACM.

10:28:54

So I would want to make sure that I understand well what are the budget implications.

10:29:00

Are there going to be savings?

10:29:02

And I want to make sure that this expanded and added scope doesn't jeopardize, doesn't jeopardize the services that the parks department is delivering, which again I believe is second to none.

10:29:18

And people absolutely love.

10:29:21

So that's my concern with this is procedural.

10:29:24

You know, we we the city commission creates departments, consolidates departments, and is done by ordinance so that we can see what is its impact.

10:29:32

Understood, Commissioner, and my intention was to bring a cleanup ordinance in the next few months to adjust that.

10:29:40

Um this is something that I believe is extremely helpful to our organizational structure today, um, which is why I reached out to all of you.

10:30:00

And ultimately, I do agree with you that the parks department is running extremely well, and I think that has a lot to do with John's leadership of that department, which is why I think that he is earned the opportunity to take on these additional responsibilities and show us that he's capable of doing more than what we're currently asking him.

10:30:13

Okay.

10:30:13

I'd like to move the item.

10:30:15

Second.

10:30:18

Motion by sorry.

10:30:20

Motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:30:25

All in favor, please say aye.

10:30:26

Aye.

10:30:28

Item is approved.

10:30:32

BCA.

10:30:35

I'd actually like to do a motion to reconsider on one of the board votes, if you can uh explain what I told you Ralph.

10:30:41

Yes, sir.

10:30:42

So for the visitors on conventions authority board, uh Mayor Minor voted for Corey Rice.

10:30:50

And he I believe is that your member you you're assuming you meant to vote for Mr.

10:30:56

Gonzalez, is that correct?

10:30:58

I don't want to say I I I meant to, but uh I'd like to change my vote.

10:31:02

So if that's the case, that would mean that there's a tie vote for Lisette Garcia and Adrian Gonzalez, which would require a new vote altogether to break the tie.

10:31:14

On just those two individuals?

10:31:16

Just those two individuals.

10:31:18

I'd like to nominate Adrian Gonzalez.

10:31:24

But another first is to re reconsider the item, correct?

10:31:27

So we're talking about.

10:31:28

I'm in a motion, so I need second take.

10:31:30

Second to vote.

10:31:31

So the uh all in favor of reconsidering the item, please say aye.

10:31:34

Aye.

10:31:35

Anyone opposed?

10:31:37

One opposed.

10:31:39

Aye.

10:31:40

Two opposed.

10:31:43

Sure.

10:31:43

Because I just and I understand.

10:31:45

I I'll tell you what my concern is, besides liking both people, which is the worst part of being in this.

10:31:53

Mr.

10:31:53

Attorney, once we appoint individuals to a position, my understanding has been that an individual cannot be removed.

10:32:02

Unless it's for due costs and and there's a hearing and all that process.

10:32:08

I believe that because there's a motion to reconsider, this would be an opportunity, but I see Nick coming up, so he's gonna correct me perhaps.

10:32:16

I think that the commission's motion to appoint the member to the committee is subject to reconsideration at the same meeting.

10:32:23

Okay.

10:32:23

All right.

10:32:23

So we're not putting ourselves in uh in a pickle as I used earlier on.

10:32:30

The same committee.

10:32:35

Okay.

10:32:36

Motion is second.

10:32:37

So motion by I'm gonna go with Mayor Minor seconded, and Commissioner uh Suarez made the motion because the mayor cannot make it so to reconsider the VCA votes uh all in favor.

10:32:50

Aye.

10:32:51

All right.

10:32:51

Who's opposed, please?

10:32:53

No one's opposed, so the vote is 7-0 to reconsider.

10:32:56

Would you like to then vote for both Ms.

10:32:59

Lissette Garcia and Adrian Gonzalez on your ballots?

10:33:03

All of us?

10:33:04

Yeah.

10:33:04

Can we do show hands?

10:33:06

We could do that.

10:33:07

So all for Lissette Garcia.

10:33:10

Uh count one, two, three, four.

10:33:13

And for Adrian Gonzalez.

10:33:16

One, two, three.

10:33:17

So Ms.

10:33:18

Garcia is the appointee.

10:33:21

Motion meeting.

10:33:23

Uh yeah, but make it make it a short extension.

10:33:27

Rough.

10:33:29

Motion for short extended.

10:33:31

Yes, sir.

10:33:31

So motion by Commissioner Magazine and seconded by Commissioner Suarez to extend the meeting.

10:33:39

All in favor?

10:33:40

Please say aye.

10:33:41

Aye.

10:33:41

Aye.

10:33:42

Meeting is extended.

10:33:49

Um CEMBA.

10:33:56

This is uh is an activation I've been working with.

10:34:00

C7BA is approved product X National Geographic C beyond low impact activation.

10:34:06

That was an addendum item.

10:34:08

Lizette, maybe if you want to give a 30-second overview and then we'll move this.

10:34:11

This is uh I've been working with the event activators and the brands.

10:34:15

I'm very, very proud to announce um I'd like to move the item.

10:34:18

Yep.

10:34:19

Second.

10:34:20

Um I'll announce it on Facebook.

10:34:23

Thank you.

10:34:25

So C7BA, I have a motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:34:29

All in favor, please say aye.

10:34:30

Aye.

10:34:31

Aye.

10:34:31

Anyone opposed?

10:34:32

Hearing none, C7BA is approved.

10:34:35

C7BB.

10:34:36

C7BB is fiscal year 2026 budget amendment to second.

10:34:43

Hold on.

10:34:44

Seven.

10:34:47

I know, but it was an amendment.

10:34:49

C C B B B C.

10:34:53

Mayor, which item are you doing now?

10:34:54

B B.

10:34:55

BB, okay.

10:34:56

That was already approved.

10:34:58

Okay.

10:34:59

How soon I think the mayor.

10:35:01

Okay.

10:35:01

So it wasn't an addendum.

10:35:02

You're correct.

10:35:03

So B7BB had been approved already in the consent.

10:35:08

You want to do B C Mayor or no?

10:35:11

That's the uh yeah, I have it here.

10:35:13

Okay, B C C7BC.

10:35:15

C7BC support the preservation of Miami Date Urban Development Boundary.

10:35:19

Moved.

10:35:23

So we don't develop on the wetlands.

10:35:27

I'll second, but I just want to make a comment, like if I may.

10:35:30

Please.

10:35:32

I support the urban development boundary line.

10:35:35

Uh and it certainly is important to protect our water resources.

10:35:42

My concern with this is that this is outside of our jurisdiction, outside of our of our decision making.

10:35:50

And the same way we tell Tallahassee, we don't want you to tell us what to do with our zoning.

10:35:57

In the same way we tell the county, we don't want you to tell us what to do with our zoning, especially with RTZs and all that.

10:36:06

This we're telling the county what to do with their zoning in areas of Miami Dade County.

10:36:12

I don't know if have you been by that area, Commissioner Suarez.

10:36:16

And I mean you've seen there's there's a school, there's a school bus yard there, there's radio antennas there.

10:36:23

There's a target that that is going to be constructed there at the corner of 8th Street and 137th Avenue.

10:36:30

I only know that because I grew up on 139th Avenue west from here, and so I go by there very frequently when I visit my parents.

10:36:38

You know.

10:36:40

Affordable housing needs.

10:36:42

It's we tell other governments we don't want them making decisions about our zoning.

10:36:47

Yes, but we're telling another government what to do with their zoning.

10:36:51

I don't disagree with you.

10:36:53

The uh the um the uh the veto of mayor Kava should be upheld.

10:36:59

Um I'm just concerned.

10:37:02

Are we gonna get any sort of pushback on other initiatives that we're trying to advance with the county where we're gonna need their cooperation on?

10:37:12

So that's my only concern with this.

10:37:14

I support the position.

10:37:16

I don't want to see uh these these areas developed more.

10:37:20

They're beautiful green areas.

10:37:23

Um for except for the part where there is warehouses, there is a storage facility and all that.

10:37:28

Um if we're saying we don't want the county influencing our zoning, we shouldn't be stepping on their territory.

10:37:36

It's outside of our jurisdiction.

10:37:39

So what about that?

10:37:40

Second?

10:37:41

I'll second.

10:37:42

Motion and second about that.

10:37:46

We have a motion by Commissioner Suarez, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez to approve C7BC.

10:37:50

All in favor, please say aye.

10:37:52

Aye.

10:37:53

Anyone opposed?

10:37:54

Hearing none, C7BC is approved.

10:37:58

C7AZ.

10:38:00

C7AZ accept donations from Barry Sterlich Foundation 26 programming for seniors.

10:38:08

C7AZ was separated by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:38:13

Mr.

10:38:13

Manager, did we ever get any information on how the grant has been used in the past?

10:38:19

I had asked for that information during my briefing.

10:38:24

Which is the more uh good evening, Tamika Stewart budget director.

10:38:29

So yes, it's the first time was last year.

10:38:32

We received the grant and it was $20,000.

10:38:35

I think more than 20,000 was spent on senior services last year.

10:38:39

Okay, by the city or by the office of the mayor and commission.

10:38:42

The funds were appropriated in the mayor and commissioner's office.

10:38:45

Okay, their budget.

10:38:46

And and how were the funds used?

10:38:48

Was this for specific events?

10:38:50

There were uh several senior events that were listed as expenditures over 20,000.

10:38:57

Okay, all right.

10:38:57

I mean I fully support this.

10:38:59

I think it's great that Barry Sternlick is uh is supporting our our community.

10:39:04

I just want to make sure that when we approve this, that when this funding is being used for senior events, that it's clear uh that it's coming from Barry Sternlick, that it's approved by the office of the mayor and commission.

10:39:17

Uh, not just one elected official, but you know, through the support of the Barry Sternlic Foundation and by the office of the mayor and commission.

10:39:27

Um in the past I've seen invitations for certain events that only have one elected official's name, so I just want to make sure that it's inclusive.

10:39:34

And not for promo items like hats or share.

10:39:37

I don't think that that happens.

10:39:40

I don't think so.

10:39:41

So that was in okay.

10:39:43

So we can m so move.

10:39:45

It's uh it's a reso, so I need a motion, okay.

10:39:48

So moved.

10:39:50

Second.

10:39:51

Uh motion by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Mayor Minor.

10:39:54

All in favor of C7AZ, please say aye.

10:39:56

Aye.

10:39:56

Aye.

10:39:57

Anyone opposed?

10:39:57

C7AZ hearing none, C7AZ is approved.

10:40:02

R9E.

10:40:05

R9E is referral to the Finance Committee installed bird bath water feature at Dell Isle Park that had been separated at the last meeting.

10:40:17

I had separated the item just to do a dual referral to neighborhoods so that the uh resident association of Bell Isle can also be included in the conversation.

10:40:30

Okay.

10:40:31

Is that a motion, Commissioner?

10:40:32

Yes.

10:40:33

So a dual referral.

10:40:35

Yes.

10:40:37

Seconding?

10:40:37

Second.

10:40:38

Second of uh Vice Mayor Monica Matel Salina.

10:40:41

So this will be a referral to finance and to public safety.

10:40:44

All in favor, please say aye.

10:40:45

Aye.

10:40:46

The item is duly referred to a couple of items that were pulled from consent that there were just referral C4A.

10:40:55

C4A is a referral to committee of the whole annual performance evaluation for city manager.

10:41:01

C4A separated by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:41:06

Commissioner Fernandez.

10:41:07

Thank you, Mr.

10:41:08

Mayor.

10:41:09

The reason why I pulled this is because of the timing.

10:41:14

The contract stipulates that the city manager shall be evaluated by the commission within 45 days before following his anniversary date of July 24th, which would put us the earliest earliest that would be would be early June.

10:41:37

It's outside of what the contract calls for.

10:41:41

The contract calls for 45 days from the time of the anniversary.

10:41:46

And we're a few months ahead of that.

10:41:48

So why why is this happening or why are we proposing to do this this month?

10:41:53

So Commissioner, this actually would have been considered as part of the committee of the whole in September or October of 2025.

10:42:16

I understand.

10:42:40

Feel more comfortable doing this in June at that time.

10:42:46

Just so that we can give you time to advance on some of these goals that at least that I've given you.

10:43:03

And then the future just sticking to that so that so that we don't find ourselves mid-cycles or you know, right before spring break, but we're still implementing things having to do with permitting uh and dealing, you know, with other issues that we're dealing with.

10:43:16

I rather give you time to meet some goals that we passed out for you.

10:43:20

Well, what was the reason it was put on?

10:43:21

I was asked which if we should put it on on the fifth or the twenty-fifth.

10:43:24

What was the rationale?

10:43:26

So the only reason that I put it on is because I'm contractually obligated to put something on the agenda for you all to give me an evaluation on an annual basis.

10:43:36

But it's within 45 days before following the the anniversary.

10:43:40

I know we missed that last year, but you know, I would feel more comfortable doing it in in June.

10:43:48

Okay.

10:43:49

I was I don't feel strong about it, but I kind of wanted to do it.

10:43:53

I think it's good to give feedback.

10:43:57

Commissioner Dominguez.

10:43:59

Um my question was just answered.

10:44:01

Thank you.

10:44:04

So we basically we missed the timeline for last year.

10:44:08

Is that what you're saying?

10:44:09

That's what the city manager is saying.

10:44:12

So that would be so Mr.

10:44:17

Mayor, what are your thoughts?

10:44:18

Just other than I I think it's good to for us to get together in a room, and because we can't really we can't talk about it outside of sunshine.

10:44:26

So I think it's I think we should have a discussion about our chartered offices and see what the thoughts are for each of us.

10:44:36

And since it's been so long.

10:44:39

We could do both times by the way.

10:44:40

This one makes up for last year, and then we do it in July.

10:44:44

I don't see anything wrong with that.

10:44:45

Well, what I wouldn't want, and I don't know if I'll just say this.

10:44:50

Yeah, I don't know if there were any bonuses being that were going to be contemplated now or or anything like that right now.

10:44:57

You know, I don't know.

10:44:58

Well, if there's money involved, let's not do it.

10:45:00

I'm kidding.

10:45:01

Well, no, well, that's that's exactly where I'm at right now.

10:45:05

I see.

10:45:05

Yeah.

10:45:06

I mean, if we're if we're gonna talk about you know, evaluation things that we want to see improve, performance measures and that type of stuff, you know, I'm fine discussing that February 25th.

10:45:16

Uh, usually the mayor takes a lead on this, so I'll follow your lead on this.

10:45:20

Um actually, I think in the past, items like these have been sponsored by the mayor.

10:45:26

I was surprised to see this on the agenda without without a sponsor.

10:45:31

Um I rather see these things come through the mayor.

10:45:35

I don't like things like this being self-initiated by I guess who put this on the agenda, HR.

10:45:41

Thank you.

10:45:42

I I actually put it on the agenda.

10:45:44

It had been done in two different ways.

10:45:46

It was done by uh the mayor prior to uh the most recent evaluation of the other charter officers which were put forward by the city attorney and the city clerk.

10:45:59

Actually, I I assumed that I was sponsoring it because I was asked which date I wanted to put it on.

10:46:05

Okay.

10:46:05

Okay, well, what well then it's yeah, I'm listening I'll follow your lead on it.

10:46:09

You are the mayor, um, and usually this is something that that we give certain level of deference to the mayor on.

10:46:16

And I'll I'll follow your lead on it.

10:46:18

If you think that right now is the appropriate time to do it, I'll follow your lead and I'll second that.

10:46:22

Well, Monica, I mean uh Commissioner Mateo Salinas has a lot to say about it since I became commissioner.

10:46:27

Um well, actually, that's what I want to say.

10:46:29

I've only been commissioner for about five minutes, so Eric, I don't know if I can give you an appropriate evaluation.

10:46:34

So I would actually like more time, but I understand that we have a lot coming up with spring break, and you would like some feedback before all our all our focus goes to string break.

10:46:43

So I'm a little bit torn here too.

10:46:45

Um, but maybe we do April.

10:46:48

I don't know, or March.

10:46:49

I mean, I don't know.

10:46:49

I'm kind of torn.

10:46:51

Well, I think everyone's pretty I mean the April date would align with the anniversary for the other charter officers that were reviewed last April.

10:47:02

And they specifically asked me if I wanted to be in on that last year, and I told them I wasn't within the 45 days of my anniversary date.

10:47:11

Um, and so I politely declined.

10:47:15

I think you know someone mentioned, I don't know if it was you, Mr.

10:47:19

Mayor or Mr.

10:47:20

Manager.

10:47:21

Yeah, let's have a discussion February 25th, and then we can then just revert to what the contract says and within 45 days, uh, you know, so that we catch up from last year.

10:47:32

We can do something February 25th, but we still meet the contractual obligation of the contract for this year, which is within 45 days, we'll have a second evaluation.

10:47:41

Um I like it at that time, which falls like somewhere between the beginning of June and the and sometime in in August because it gives you 45 days before and follow 45 days following the anniversary.

10:47:57

So you have two evaluations.

10:47:58

You got more of us.

10:48:01

Sounds good.

10:48:02

Okay.

10:48:03

Don't be so excited.

10:48:04

So uh it's over.

10:48:06

It's like what we're gonna do is we're gonna refer it to the committee of the whole on February 25th, and then another one around the June meeting.

10:48:11

Is that what it is?

10:48:12

Is that what I heard?

10:48:13

June?

10:48:13

Well, in uh in accordance with what the contract stipulates.

10:48:16

Okay, so we'll leave it just for February 25th as a moment though.

10:48:19

February 25th, and then you know, the second one based on what the contract stipulates.

10:48:23

So, do I have a motion or can we do this by acclamation, the referral?

10:48:27

So 7-0 item is referred to the committee of the whole C4 R7P R7P, install bus of General Don Jose Sam McDing at Normandy Fountain Plaza.

10:48:48

Commissioner Fernandez, Commissioner Suarez, all in favor of R7P, please say aye.

10:48:53

Aye.

10:48:54

Anyone opposed, hearing none, R7P is approved.

10:48:57

And Mr.

10:48:58

Mayor, I'd be remiss not to thank Gustavo Brian from the Hispanic Affairs Committee, who not only led this effort in the Hispanic Affairs Committee but put money out of his own pocket to uh to get the bust commissioned and to have it donated to the city.

10:49:14

So thank you so much, Gustavo.

10:49:15

Yes, thank you.

10:49:18

Very kind of you.

10:49:21

Thank you, Commissioner Fernandez.

10:49:22

Uh C4H.

10:49:27

C4H is referral to finance feasibility of mounted horse police patrol.

10:49:32

C4H was separated by Commissioner Fernandez.

10:49:39

Uh yeah, the feasibility of a mounted horse police patrol.

10:49:45

Um, you know, when we're talking about creating or conducting a comprehensive analysis um about something that is so tied um to our police department to to to law enforcement.

10:50:20

And usually these things would go to the public safety committee being referred to the finance committee.

10:50:27

Um I actually agree with you.

10:50:29

Thank you, because I felt like maybe it was on purpose.

10:50:33

It was because of the um but it no, I agree with you.

10:50:36

I mean, I know that I mean if you want to speak to Chief, I know it's in support, but uh I'm I'm perfectly fine with that.

10:50:41

I think it makes sense.

10:50:43

Is it a dual referral to the case?

10:50:44

Dual referral for public safety.

10:50:46

All right.

10:50:49

So by acclamation uh 7-0 refer to both public safety neighborhood quality of life and finance, not C4H.

10:51:01

C4U.

10:51:04

C4U referral to public safety, naturally occurring affordable housing pilot program by Commissioner Bott.

10:51:10

That was an addendum item.

10:51:11

C4U just move it.

10:51:15

I want to yes, move.

10:51:20

I've been here all day, and very quickly it's just um a way to incentivize redevelopment of affordable housing rather than building new.

10:51:28

Second.

10:51:36

And would you like to recognize to really getting incrementally more involved?

10:51:41

You don't have to say anything, but it's great, and you had to sit here all day for not even two seconds of glory.

10:51:47

But but the important thing is we're moving along, and the CRA was super excited about it, is super excited about it because as we all know by um by law, 10% of CRE revenues have to go for affordable housing, and this is a way to develop uh infill housing incentivize redevelopment uh without knocking things down.

10:52:06

So good on you.

10:52:08

C4V.

10:52:09

C4V is a referral to finance draft agreement installation of turf space in part on Sunset Island 2, C4V.

10:52:18

Thank you.

10:52:23

Commissioner Magazine made a motion?

10:52:25

Yes.

10:52:25

Okay.

10:52:26

Commissioner Fernandez, but I second.

10:52:28

Okay.

10:52:29

He actually seconded.

10:52:30

Okay.

10:52:31

We got it.

10:52:32

Oh, acclamation, please.

10:52:34

7-0.

10:52:34

Is that okay?

10:52:35

The referral?

10:52:37

Uh C4V is referred.

10:52:42

I think our time has run out.

10:52:44

Yes.

10:52:45

I just I just want to thank you and the and and our colleagues for supporting uh the funding for the Ryan White HIV AIDS program.

10:52:55

We have uh the the Miami Beach Community Health Clinic has over 1,000 HIV positive patients that would be affected by this in Miami Dave County.

10:53:06

We have 35,000 HIV positive uh in individuals who would suffer from not getting their medications if this funding is taken away.

10:53:17

So I want to thank you, Mr.

10:53:18

Mayor, and and Commissioners Alina, Commissioner Dominguez, Commissioner Bott, and Commissioner Magazine for supporting this.

10:53:25

And thank you, Commissioner Fernandez, and thank you for the opportunity to co-prime with you on that.

10:53:29

Thank you, meeting adjourned.

10:53:31

And just for the record, the item R5O is open and continued to March 18.

10:53:38

R50 was it was initially listed as February 25.

10:53:46

Residents right to know item.

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Summary of Proceedings

City of Miami Beach Commission Meeting - February 5, 2026

The Miami Beach City Commission met on February 5, 2026, in a session lasting from the morning into the evening. The agenda included a lengthy Sütnik Hour (public comment), a police chief testimony regarding a controversial welfare check, a major discussion on spring break operational plans, a proposed rezoning of Washington Avenue, and numerous other items. The commission approved several ordinances on first and second reading, referred several items to committees, and made appointments to boards and committees.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved the consent agenda as amended (7-0), including items separated by commissioners.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Morning Sütnik Hour: Multiple residents spoke on various topics. Brendan Jordan (artist, 30-year resident) criticized the city's artist vendor program and alleged bullying. Raquel Pacheco (resident) described a police visit to her home after a Facebook comment, calling it a First Amendment violation. Monica Tracy (resident) requested a bird bath at Belle Isle Park. Paul Thomas (patient advocate) supported ADAP funding. Miles Davis (SAVE) supported rainbow crosswalk installation at Loomis Park. Helena Gomez (artist) opposed residency restrictions on artists. Sam Feldman (resident, Holocaust survivor family) labeled the police visit as fascism. Joe Zevellone (property owner) expressed support for the mayor and police. Steve Bubba Cohen defended the police action.
  • Afternoon Open Forum: Several speakers, including Glenn Hall (Black Affairs Advisory Committee) and Francisca Medina (MDPL volunteer), spoke on Black History Month and MDPL's lease.
  • Public Hearings: On various items, including R5J (hate crime ordinance), R5H (delivery robots), R5B/C (Washington Avenue rezoning), and others. Johan Moore (Flamingo Park Neighborhood Association) opposed the rezoning, while David Rydenberg (business owner) supported it. Daniel Serraldo (former MDPL director) criticized the rezoning process.

Discussion Items

  • Spring Break Operational Plan (R7V): City Manager Eric Carpenter presented a plan to modify 2025 restrictions. Commissioners discussed making sidewalk cafes open by default, removing barricades on Ocean/Collins/Washington, keeping garages open with flexible rates, later LPR starts, and more beach access points. The item was amended and approved 7-0.
  • MDPL Lease (R9AC): Discussion on extending the management agreement. Inspector General Joseph Sanorito advised waiting for a pending report. Commissioner Magazine proposed a three-month extension to September 2026; later amended to December 2026. Approved 7-0.
  • Washington Avenue Rezoning (R5B, R5C): Commissioner Suarez presented a plan to incentivize non-transient residential development with height/FAR increases. Commissioner Fernandez proposed a streamlined process instead of as-of-right. After extensive debate, the items were referred to the Land Use Committee.
  • Delivery Robots (R5H): Ordinance regulating personal delivery devices, including speed limits (8 mph on sidewalks, 10 mph in crosswalks) and advertising ban. Approved 7-0.
  • Live Entertainment Pilot (R5D): Pilot program allowing indoor entertainment in certain commercial corridors without conditional use permits. Approved 7-0.
  • Hate Crime Ordinance (R5J): Minimum 30-day jail sentence for crimes motivated by hate. Approved 7-0.
  • Pre-K Scholarship (R7X): Additional funding of $111,000 to cover waitlisted students. Approved 7-0.
  • Rainbow Crosswalk (R7O): Approval to install salvaged rainbow pavers at Loomis Park. Approved 7-0.

Key Outcomes

  • Spring Break Plan (R7V): Approved 7-0 with amendments granting flexibility on beach closures, parking, barricades, and LPR timing.
  • MDPL Lease (R9AC): Extended to December 31, 2026, pending Inspector General report.
  • Washington Avenue Rezoning (R5B, R5C): Referred to Land Use Committee.
  • Delivery Robots (R5H): Approved 7-0 on second reading.
  • Live Entertainment Pilot (R5D): Approved 7-0 on second reading.
  • Hate Crime Ordinance (R5J): Approved 7-0 on second reading.
  • Pre-K Scholarship (R7X): Approved 7-0.
  • Rainbow Crosswalk (R7O): Approved 7-0.
  • Boards and Committees: Appointments made, including controversial ones to Human Rights Committee (withdrawn) and North Beach CRA.
  • Other Items: Martina settlement (R7Y) approved with amendment for resident preference; waste collection for 9-16 units (R5S) approved on first reading; several referrals made to committees.

Meeting Transcript

Welcome to the City of Miami Beach Commission Chambers. We're glad to have you with us today. If you require ADA assistance or accommodations, please notify the City Clerk or any staff member, and we will be happy to assist you. Mayor Steven Miner. If you are a lobbyist appearing before the City Commission or any city board, you must have registered with the City Clerk prior to participating. If you have not yet registered, please do so immediately. Presentation reminder. If you submitted a presentation within the 24 hours prior to the start of today's meeting, please check the computer located at the podium to ensure your file is properly loaded. When the floor opens for public comment, please step up to the podium, speak clearly into the microphone, and begin by stating your name and address for the record. How to participate in public meetings via Zoom. As soon as the host grants you permission to speak, a dialog box will pop up on your screen with two options. Select the unmute button to begin speaking. After you finish speaking, mute your microphone and click on the lower hand icon. Once unmuted, you may begin speaking. After you finish sharing your comments, be sure to press star nine to lower your hand and star six to mute yourself. Please take your seats. The meeting is about to begin. Remember to speak into the microphone as this meeting is being recorded for public record. Please stand by. We are going on air in five, four, three, two, one. Good morning, and welcome to the commission meeting of February fifth, twenty twenty six. I'll turn to our city clerk, Raphael Granado to give us any pertinent instructions. Members of the public are invited to attend either in person or virtually. If you're joining us virtually, here's how do you you can participate.us on your browser. You can also phone in at three oh five two two four nineteen sixty-eight. That's three oh five two four nineteen sixty-eight. Or toll-free, eight eight, eight, four seven five, four, four nine nine. Again, toll free, eight eight eight, four seven five, four four nine nine. The webinar ID is eight one three nine two eight five seven six seventy-one pound. Again, webinar ID is eight one three nine two eight five seven six seventy-one pound. If you would like to speak virtually on an item during the meeting, please click the raise hand icon in the zoom app or press star nine on your phone. The zoom link, webinar ID, and phone numbers stay the same for every commission meeting. All obvious must register with the city with the office of the city clerk located on the first floor of City Hall. You do not need to register if you're an expert witness giving only tech technical or specialized testimony. A representative of a neighborhood association or nonprofit speaking without pay, or a private citizen speaking on your own behalf without compensation. However, if you're an expert witness or a nonprofit or a neighborhood representative, you do need to submit a written disclosure form to the office of the city clerk before speaking with a commission or city staff. Forms are available on the office of the city clerk. If a lobbyist gives or agrees to give a thousand dollars or more to a neighborhood association or a representative regarding a city matter, that's that must be disclosed in writing to the clerk. If you plan to speak, you need to please sign up either on the sign-up sheets that are available or the QR codes that are on the on the podium. Mayor, we have one announcement regarding the beachfront management plan ad hoc advisory committee. The City of Miami Beach announces an upcoming public meeting of the Beachfront Management Plan and Ad hoc advisory committee. This meeting will be held on Tuesday, March 10th from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. at City Hall, 1700 Convention Center Drive in the City Manager's Conference Room, or on the fourth floor. On the fourth floor, members of the public are welcome to attend in person or log in via Zoom at the webinar ID is 845-009-276-24. Again, 845-009-27624. The public can also call 305-224-1968 or toll-free 888-475-4499. Again, the webinar ID is 845-009-27624. The purpose of this meeting is to review and provide input on the city's updated beachfront management plan. The plan outlines property uses, management activities, concession operations, special event permits, requirements, dune management strategies, and other key initiatives to ensure the sustainable management of our beachfront.

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