Board of supervisors to order, Mr.

Hohen, may I have a roll call, please?

Supervisor Giomene.

Here, Supervisor White.

Supervisor Horton.

Here.

Mayor Bagwell.

Here.

You have your quarrel.

Thank you so much.

Um, this morning, we are so fortunate.

I think I saw him earlier.

There he is.

Come on up, Pastor Pat and get us started for this lofty day.

That works.

You know what to do.

Turn it green.

All right.

Turn it green.

Lord, let them not run out of money.

We're out of money.

Well, then we need the Lord.

So oh, some uh psalm of David says this in Psalm One Twenty One, I will lift my eyes up to the hills from where my help comes from.

My help comes from the Lord who makes heaven and earth.

He will not allow your foot to slumber.

He will not allow your foot to be moved.

Behold, he keeps Israel, and he will be your keeper.

The Lord is your keeper.

He is your shade on your right hand, and he will not let anything strike you.

The Lord shall preserve your goings in and your going out from this day forevermore.

Lord, I just uh as the uh disciples would sing that song going up to the hill of ascend as the the ascent songs.

Lord, we want to pray that prayer over the city over this constituency that's here.

That Lord, that you will keep us.

You will not allow our foot to slumber.

Lord, you will be our protection.

And that Lord that goes from the youngest to the oldest.

Father, we would ask you for your guidance and your leading in these proceedings today.

Lord, let there be wisdom in this room.

Let there be guidance in this room with your help.

We come to you in Jesus' name.

Amen.

Amen.

Thank you so much.

You're welcome.

Stacy, would you leave us in the pledge this morning?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you so much.

Okay.

We are now gonna go to opening public comment.

And the first one I have signed up for opening public comment is it Hannah?

Capital Improvement.

Somebody Homa, Hannah, sorry.

Okay.

Good morning.

Good morning.

My name for the record, my name is Homas AR, H O M A, last name S A Y Y A R.

I'm the deputy director with the Nevada Department of Indigent Defense Services.

And I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to offer public comment today.

Um we have our board on indigent defense services meeting this afternoon at one.

So I wanted to make sure that I started public comment, and I'm happy to stick around when the agenda item comes up.

Um the Nevada Department of Indigenous Defense Services facilitates conflict counsel assignment for matters across Nevada, including in the first judicial district court and the justice and municipal courts in the city and area.

Uh we encourage funding of case management system modernization with electronic filing functionality.

It has been challenging to find qualified counsel to accept cases with potential attorneys reporting that they are unwilling to accept cases in the first judicial district specifically due to challenges associated with paper-only filing requirements.

Our office has iteratively increased hourly rates offered to these attorneys, and many of them have told us that they will not take cases in the first judicial district at any rate of pay because of the burdens associated with electronic lack of electronic filing.

While the structure of indigent defense funding in Carson City includes funds from our department once your statutory maximum is met, lack of electronic filing and effective case management can negatively affect delivery of crucial services.

A more limited pool of attorneys willing to accept cases may cause delay and timely representation and the swift administration of justice.

Any delay in placement of cases infringes on the constitutional rights of indigent defendants.

A modern electronic case management system, case information access, and electronic filing will help ensure constitutionally guaranteed rights to counsel in this area.

It will also allow for collection and reporting of crucial caseload data to inform future resources and service needs for justice system stakeholders.

Thank you so much for your time and consideration.

Thank you.

How about Judy Laqueer?

I probably didn't get that right.

Cert?

What's sir?

Wants to comment on cert.

I don't have anything to say.

Oh, okay.

You put one that you wanted to speak at the beginning of the meeting.

You're okay.

Um, how about William Hassan?

Is that come on up on the press out buttons for please?

Green.

Okay.

Hello.

Um, for the record, my name is William Hickson, H I G S O N.

And I'm a resident here in Carson City, Nevada.

And I'm here to speak on the agenda item 11A.

Uh Carson, or so first of all, hello, members of city council.

Um, so Carson City is being asked to renew a contract with Flock Group for 122,500 per year, totaling 245,000 over two years.

Before this council votes yes, the residents of Carson City deserve answers.

This is a renewal.

So what document result what documented results from this contract period justify another 245,000 dollars of public money?

No independent studies support flocked Flox claims that their systems reduce crime.

Only Flox own numbers do.

These systems have a documented history of mission creep, starting as stolen vehicle tools and expanding it to broader surveillance of residents, not suspect of any crime.

It lives on privately owned servers that Flock controls.

And Flock controls who sees it, who profits from it, and who it gets shared with.

Flock holds federal contracts that include access to all of this data.

Their CEO has publicly and falsely stated that no such contracts exist.

Once signed, all local control is gone.

The system tracks every resident, every residence vehicle daily and shares data with outside agencies without council approval.

Exit terms are costly.

You'll pay to enter the contract.

And if you decide to terminate early, there's also exit costs.

Over 30 cities and counties have walked away from these contracts over these exact concerns, among them Austin, Texas, Denver, Colorado, Boston, Massachusetts, Santa Cruz, California, and Flagstaff, Arizona.

I asked the council to move to table this item 11A, pending full review of results first from the first contract period and a full public privacy assessment before any renewal vote is taken.

Thank you for your consideration.

Okay.

I I think the only one left is Denny.

Well, I was actually higher on the list, so I think I was on this.

You didn't indicate.

That's okay.

Okay, come on up.

Thank you.

If you want.

And in this case, I've thrown it into the ring.

Um this is on just to protect my bald head from the lights, but usually the hat's on to protect my eyes.

The deal is that I'd like to bring up the Arbor Day considerations in the fact and with this consideration that the tree loss in this community is dire to me.

The habitats that it gave up, the shade, the other environmental considerations, and in my understanding, uh most was due, whether for disease or such, was basically neglect.

Neglect to keep an eye on them.

And I've talked to both individuals as far as the parks and recreations and public works and Darren Schultz has suggested that they're working to make sure they coordinate their efforts on the trees so that they can be better monitored and overseen.

And I appreciate the fact that this budget doesn't have an arborist consideration on it, but I would suggest that we do need one.

The next thing I'd like to bring up is 11A.

Um I had a very brief bid on here, but that's a huge contract.

And if it's not putting out what it suggests, it's like yourself, mayor, have suggested that some of these charities, if we're going to be giving them the bits of money that we do have, they have to provide a suggestion of what their services are and how they've related to the community's population.

At this time, they're trying to comply with you on that because I do need those funds, and I'm not discouraging that.

In fact, I'd like to see that fund uh area raised so that more people could be touched with it.

I also had an opportunity coming in, just observation.

Um Pastor Pat.

Um, I hope he doesn't mind.

I can't pronounce his last name well.

But um, I suggested that nights off the street while a wonderful program.

I went to their flannels and freeze or freeze and flannel.

Um, right now it's freeze without flannel.

But the deal is I'd like them to consider the days that are cold, regardless of the time periods.

It's not a set time for us as far as weather.

So thank you very much.

Thank you.

Do I have anyone else that didn't uh get on the sign-in list?

Hi.

I knew I recognized that little.

She insisted on giving public comment with me.

So we'll see how this goes.

Um hi, my name is Kelsey Penrose.

I am a uh professor at WNC for English.

Um myself and a couple of my colleagues and people that I have strong armed into helping me.

Um we are launching a nonprofit for kids.

We have launched a nonprofit.

I need to actually start believing that it exists.

But um, we are having a pilot program at the end of this month starting um April 27th.

That's for five weeks.

It's at the BAC.

Um, we are hosting workshops taught by local professionals and experts uh for kids ages two to eighteen.

They're broken up into different age groups.

We've got really, really cool stuff coming.

We've got um everything from toddler gardening to apocalyptic response, which is a fancy way of saying first aid and CPR, but in a way that kids will actually think it's cool.

Um we've also got small business marketing for teenagers and everything in between.

We've got um a lot of funding.

Shouldn't say a lot.

We've got funding available for partial and full scholarships um to make sure that it's accessible to for every family.

Um typically the cost is 40 dollars per workshop, but um we know that not every family can afford that.

So uh we have funding available.

So I would just like to let you guys know what we're doing.

We've also um got some free uh events happening.

Um I've strong armed to the mayor and the sheriff into giving behind the scenes tours of uh City Hall and the sheriff's office, and we've got some other stuff in the works as well.

So please tell people uh so that we can get kids signed up and um bring them some cool academic enrichment.

Um, part of it also is that um accessibility to mental health care for kids is extremely difficult um in this town, but also nationwide.

I know you're doing so good.

Um, and so we have um skill social emotional skill building groups that are taught by licensed therapists um for right now we've got middle schoolers and high schoolers because those are the largest needs, but we're also trying to expand it to um elementary school ages as well.

Um we cannot call it therapy because that's clinical, but uh it's small groups across the board.

Um that similarly is 40 dollars per participant, uh, no insurance, anything like that.

But we also have funding for that available.

So um tell your friends if anybody is interested in hosting workshops, we're interested in that as well.

But uh we'll be at the BAC.

Um, it's only in the evenings because that's when working families can access it.

Um, and on Saturdays.

So thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

What is the name?

Oh my god.

You can tell I did not prepare for any of this.

Um it's called Hollow Mountain Workshops.

Um, you can find us on um Hollomountainworkshops.org on Facebook, on Instagram, or uh the SAC or the VAC has us linked as well.

Uh thank you so much for your time.

You did a really good job.

Okay.

Thanks.

Do I have anyone else?

Oh, come on up, Jeremy.

I'll switch it to the beginning.

My name's Jeremy Russell for the record.

Good to see you because city council.

Hope you're staying warm.

Um, I'm wearing the quality learing hoodie uh to bring attention to some fraud I've uh I've uncovered in city limits here in Carson City.

Uh the United States Postal Service has instituted policy that is stealing money from apartment renters in this city.

Uh delivery fees are paid to companies when they pay when they sign up for online delivery.

Um the post office has a policy that basically, if it's just a little bit too big for the package, they'll notify the company of which the product was uh delivered or supposed to be delivered through the contract.

Um, and then they won't even load it on the truck.

Um forcing the purchaser of the package, whatever the product is, to go to the post office and finalize the delivery themselves.

Um I've spoken with uh the postmaster over there at the um uh post office twice.

He said he's not going to reverse the policy.

I've called the United States Postmaster General's office customer advocate office.

Uh they have not done anything either.

I believe that this is like my hoodie representing uh it's theft of our delivery fees that we're paying to have these things deliver.

I've spoken with two different postal carriers who both disagree with this uh policy that's in place.

So um I just want to make it known that these these delivery fees, if you're an apartment renter here in uh Carson City, our delivery fees are being stolen from us.

And um, and I view it no different, even though it's small little amounts here, six dollars there, twelve dollars there.

It's no different than the nine billion dollars of fraud in Minnesota.

Um it's it's the same.

When does it stop?

If a company can do that at the small level on an individual basis, it becomes great.

And so uh I just want to make this known and and uh aware and uh thank you for your time.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Okay.

Do I have anyone else?

Uh Lucia.

Hey, good morning.

Lucia Maloney, Carson City resident.

Um, I don't know if there's going to be public comment on the consent agenda, but I'm wanted to make a comment on the flock cameras.

Um and others saw the newspaper about a week ago about a Carson City resident who was so upset about the flock cameras, they opened fire in residential area.

I don't support opening fire in a residential area, but I can tell you that I can't leave my house without getting on a flock camera.

I submitted a public information request, and the sheriff's office has uh 265 photos of my personal vehicle over the last 30 days.

This is a big issue, and this is wrong.

Um, people can't leave their houses without getting on camera, and you all know that, and that's fine, and you've approved this.

Um, but there's a difference between pro-law enforcement and being proactive and wanting to keep our community safe and Gestapo style surveillance.

This is wrong.

I encourage you to actually discuss this item.

Make the public aware of what you're doing so people know what you're doing and how many photos and how much tracking you're doing of the residents here in Carson City.

Thank you.

Thanks.

No.

Okay, I'll close the opening public comment then and move on to our approval of minutes of March 19th, 2026.

Do I have any corrections or updates to that?

If not, Supervisor Giomi, a motion, please.

Move to approve the Carson City Board of Supervisors meeting minutes from the 19th of March 2026 is presented.

I have a motion and a second for approval.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

Thank you.

We're now on to our special presentations.

So if you would join me on the floor, I would appreciate that.

And we'll we have a little bit of a few of them to view today.

So the first one we're gonna start with is Arbor Day.

Yeah, pretty good, huh?

I love it.

So whereas, okay, and we are celebrating all these America 250 things and all this, so I love everything that starts off with whereas in 1872, right?

Jay Sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that a special day be set aside for the planting of trees.

Where's my friend Denny?

Right?

So this is the proclamation for that.

Whereas this holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska.

Whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world, and whereas trees can reduce the erosion of our precious topsoil by wind and water, cut heating and cooling costs, moderate the temperature, clean the air, produce life-giving oxygen, and provide habitat for wildlife.

And whereas trees are renewable resource giving us paper, wood for our homes, fuels for our fires, and countless other wood products.

Whereas trees in our city increase property values, enhance the economic vitality of business areas, and yes, beautify your community.

Isn't that what a tree does?

That's my favorite part, right?

Uh now, therefore, I, Lori Bagwell, mayor of Carson City, Nevada, do hereby proclaim Friday, April 24th, 2026 as Arbor Day in Carson City.

I urge all citizens to support efforts to care for our trees and woodlands and to support our city's community forestry program.

Further, I urge all citizens to plant trees to gladden the hearts and promote well-being of present and future generations.

Yeah.

Do you have do we have any of it?

Thank you, Mayor.

Um, I'm Jennifer Budge, the Parks and Recreation Director.

This year for Arbor Day, we are going to be planting trees at Ronald D.

Wilson Park on April 24th, um, which is great.

It's a wonderful community park, and we're also gonna be doing a staff training for tree care and planting.

So a great opportunity to make sure that our staff is taking proper care of our trees, but also beautiful in that neighborhood.

So thank you so much.

Yeah, so come out and join.

Okay, then we're gonna do a proclamation for Nevada Dark Sky Week.

We want to do a picture.

Oh, each one individual.

We can do that for the next part of the church.

No, let's do it.

Just do it.

One for each, right?

Okay, we're gonna do a lot of pictures.

Okay.

There you go.

All right, then we'll move to Nevada Dark Sky.

Yeah, come on up.

So whereas the experience of standing beneath a clear starry night sky that inspires awe and inspiration, provides perspective in our lives, and fuels curiosity about science and nature should be one that is shared by all humankind.

Whereas it is estimated that 80% of the world's population, including many Nevadans live under a dome of excessive artificial light and may never experience the natural beauty and wonder of viewing a truly dark sky.

And whereas it is scientifically established that excessive artificial light is detrimental to economic and ecological health and can be readily controlled by the use of responsible outdoor lighting.

Whereas light pollution wastes valuable natural resources, costing the United States, an estimated 3 billion per year in wasted energy and contributes to diminished energy security.

Whereas Nevada is home to some of the most stunning and pristine dark skies in the world, including two areas recognized by Dark Sky International, Massacure Rim, a Dark Sky Sanctuary, and Great Basin National Park, a dark sky park, which both offer breathtaking views of the cosmos and help fuel astroturism in the state that benefits urban and rural communities.

Where wait a minute, I want the Carson City one.

Okay, whereas Nevada other public lands, including Carson City's nearly 7400 acres of open space, including okay, you got you guys guess.

Where do you think in Carson we really want to just honor the dark sky?

So this is what we're after here.

We're right, we're gonna get it.

Okay, Silver Saddle Ranch and Prison Hill Recreation Area serve as vital refuge for natural darkness, supporting a nocturnal ecosystem where wildlife can thrive free from disruptive effects of artificial lighting and providing abundant opportunities for pristine stargazing.

Super excited that we can be a part of this dark skies.

Um now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Lori Bagwell, do hereby proclaim April 13th through the 20th, 2026 as Nevada Dark Sky Week.

And we invite each resident to join us in observing Nevada Dark Sky Week and learning about light pollution to raise awareness and support for protecting our precious dark skies.

Guys want to say anything neat about what you're trying to do to get us a dark sky.

Yeah, good morning.

My name is Chelsea Kinshlow.

I work with the division of outdoor recreation.

And um, through SB 52, we oversee a state Starry Sky certification program.

We are the first state in the nation to do this, uh which is very cool.

And joining uh Carson, we have five other communities who did proclamations for International Dark Sky Week.

So this is my second proclamation I've been at this week.

Um, but we're just very excited that Carson City um takes their lighting audiences very seriously.

Uh we have some really amazing dark skies here, and we're just excited to keep working with Carson City open space on getting uh prison hill and silver saddle ranch certified under this program.

So thanks.

We can do it.

Let's do that.

We're gonna do it.

Yes, we're very excited.

So Silver Saddle and Prison Hill are both already very dark spaces with some very limited lighting swaps at Silver Saddle, we'll be able to make it happen.

So it's a project that we are working on.

So yeah.

Thanks.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Okay.

I was one.

Yeah, I matter, Lori.

Today you matter.

Yeah.

We have a big crowd today.

You can come this this side, you can come down this side.

Yeah, you don't have to.

I I know that to get it on.

I'm gonna throw a slide up.

Just backdrop.

Okay.

If you start crying when you see it, I'm not gonna be able to do that.

You got a clean exactly.

Give me a give me a go.

We can probably start.

Okay.

Uh this is a proclamation for National Public Safety Telecommunications Week, whereas emergencies can occur at any time that require police fire or emergency medical services.

And whereas when an emergency occurs, the prompt response of police officers, firefighters, and paramedics is critical to the protection of life and preservation of property.

And whereas the safety of our uh police officers, firefighters, and paramedics is dependent upon the quality and accuracy of information obtained from citizens who telephone, the Carson City Sheriff's Office 911 Communications Center.

And whereas public safety dispatchers are the first and most critical contact our citizens have with emergency services, and whereas public safety dispatchers are the single vital link for all police officers, firefighters, and paramedics monitoring their activities by radio, providing them information, ensuring their safety.

And whereas public safety dispatchers of the Carson City Sheriff's Office 911 Communication Center have contributed substantially to the apprehension of criminal suppression of fires and treatment of patients.

And whereas each public safety dispatcher has exhibited compassion, understanding, and professionalism during the performance of their job in the past year.

Now, therefore, on behalf of Mayor Laurie Bagwell and the Board of Supervisors, we here do uh we do hereby proclaim the week of uh April 12 to 18 as National Public Safety Telecommunications Week in honor of the men and women whose diligence and professionalism keep our city and citizens safe.

And as a side note, both Sheriff Furlong and I started our public safety career as dispatchers.

I think it was an IQ test to pull the card.

Yeah, it was.

And we often failed.

That's why they were color-coded.

We had to color code them for the sheriff and I.

Uh yeah, you want to say something.

I you know, I I just can't thank these folks enough.

They they're that voice behind the telephone, they're there for many people who are lonely in the middle of the night.

They're there when disasters hit and and they're prepared for anything.

This is uh a crew that is just absolutely amazing, and I couldn't thank them enough.

Um you you want to go, Kevin?

Sure.

Yeah, for uh for us first responders that are out in the field, you know, we get the interaction all the time with the community and the acknowledgement and stuff, but um, they're confined to, as you see in there, to the dispatch center, and so they're out there often out of sight, out of mind.

So it's important that we have this to uh bring them to light, all that they do for our city and keeping us safe, and can't thank you guys enough.

So thank you.

Can I just add that when I you know when uh most of the time, unfortunately the the folks in communications know this, um, you know, with they're they're sort of not thought of, but um so this is important to acknowledge them.

Uh it's significant.

But I there are times when you're out in the field and kidding and and and uh Kevin can thank you.

What's his name over there?

The bald guy.

Um here, yeah.

Um can attest to this.

There is no better feeling when the stuff is hitting the fan to know that you can pick up that radio or a phone call and hit one of these fine folks who can make that connection for you and give you that uh that feeling of control again.

And so it's vital that uh it's a vital link.

Yeah, so thank you.

Yeah, technology has brought us a lot of weight.

Thank you, Frank.

He's gotta keep that operating, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

So, yeah, just uh uh a note too to just say thank you, right?

It goes a long way to say you are recognized, you are seen.

Um we know that you help keep the community safe, and so thank you for all that you do for us.

Thank you.

All right, picture agenda.

You want to say anything?

I don't care.

Okay, dispatchers can talk about sense.

Okay, ready perfect.

Thank you guys again so much.

Well, and then here's the other team, right?

I thought green was a perfect color today, so I thought, oh, when I looked through the list, I said, okay, it's green day.

Come on up with the cert team.

Right, come on up.

I'm telling you, it's a great celebration.

For all yeah, look at this.

I didn't even realize how many volunteers and stuff do we have?

48.

48.

Wow, look at how fantastic this is.

Wow.

Check it out.

Okay.

Whereas the uh Carson City Emergency.

Wait a minute, I'll wait till they're all up.

Do we got them all?

This just fantastic.

I love this.

Okay.

Whereas the Carson City Community Emergency Response Team, otherwise known as CERT, was established in 2005 as a dedicated group of community volunteers committed to strengthening disaster preparedness and resilience.

Whereas Carson City CERT regularly provides free training to the community on topics such as disaster preparedness, medical operations, light search and rescue, fire safety, and utility control.

Whereas Carson City CERT heightens community safety by participating in the Nevada Day Parade and other community events, offering immediate assistance when needed.

Oh, I should have put in here.

I apologize.

And they do a great job on the service, the flag on June 14th every year.

Thank you for that to honor our flag.

Whereas Carson City CERT supports professional first responders by assisting in training exercises, testing and performing essential duties during emergencies, thereby allowing professional first responders to focus on tasks requiring advanced capabilities.

You guys aren't gonna believe this number, but whereas in 2025, these wonderful Carson City uh CERT volunteers contributed more than 4700 hours of service to the community.

That's that's pretty fantastic, right?

Thank you.

Um, whereas since 1974, National Volunteer Week has been an opportunity to recognize the impact of volunteer services and the power of volunteers to tackle society's greatest challenges, to build stronger communities and be a force that transforms the world.

Now, therefore, I Lori Bagwell, Mayor of Carson City, Nevada, on behalf of the Board of Supervisors, do hereby proclaim April 19th through the 25th, 2026 is National Volunteer Week in Carson City, and recognize and extend our sincere appreciation to the Carson City CERT for their outstanding service and unwavering commitment to our community.

Is that not the truth?

Woohoo.

I am oops.

I love it.

I love it.

Thank you, Mayor.

My name is Serge Dwardy.

I'm the program manager for CERT, and it's an honor to accept this proclamation on behalf of all uh our members, many of who are here today.

By the way, two of the members who are here today, Bob and Cindy are original members joining the team in 2005 when then Fire Chief Geomi stood up CERT in Carson City.

So incredible that they've been here with us for 21 years, but it's a privilege to lead them.

We're seeing during Nevada Day Parade, we're seeing in other events, but a lot of the things we do are unseen, but we're still there helping the community and helping our professional response first responders.

So we're very, very grateful for the support that we get from the city and from the Board of Supervisors.

Thanks for this honor.

It's all ours, truly ours.

Oh, you went please save you.

My own, yeah.

I'm getting used to this now.

So uh no, um, just can't say enough about the cert team, and we've seen their the evidences of what they do in our community.

Um, you know, in our evacuation drills, just how how much it does take a village to pull off some of these things, and um, their support is crucial, and we have used them several times just in our fire department trainings, and it just provides that element of realism.

Um, and we just can't thank you enough.

And Serge, um, you have taken this team to another level.

So I thank you so much for all the work that you have put in to build this team to where it is today.

So thank you.

Oh, I do have a question.

So is there like an upcoming uh volunteers that might want to become part of CERT?

Is there how to how do they do it?

Well, go to CarsonCity.gov slash cert.

You can find an online application that we're accepting right now for our academy that's gonna start in May the 7th.

So, right, we're taking applications through next week.

You still got time to do it, and if you can't make the May Academy, we've got a September Academy coming up.

There you go.

So, because I would really love to read next year that it was I don't know, 9,700 hours.

Let's shoot for it.

Thank you again so much for your service for all you do.

Okay, great.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you.

I'm so honored to know you.

Thank you.

I know you're good.

Finally, right?

Okay.

Okay.

There's more.

I know, right?

I was like, oh boy.

I have glasses just in case, but this one's bigger print, so I'm in good shape.

So quarterly, we do a proclamation from the board to recognize an employee of the quarter.

Not that we have only four a year that are stupendous, but we can only afford the money four times a year.

So we we give a little check that goes with this one.

Where's my money helper?

Right?

Is that the check?

Oh that's all right.

I tried to stall there long enough.

Yeah.

Oh.

It's top secret name.

Okay.

Give her a bad time.

So you know, and and maybe the person that is the person that nominated here?

Well, come on up here, because I think it's important.

The thing I love the most about this award is that it comes from the employees, right?

That recognize something great, a fellow employee did.

So it's pretty neat.

Uh so let's talk about Danielle Garrett, who works for alternative sentencing supervisor as employee of the quarter.

Okay, where is Danielle?

Oh, you no, I thought you were the one that nominated.

Who nominated Danielle?

Get up here.

That's the whole idea.

Yeah, get up here.

Wait a hide.

Yeah.

But again, I I think it's important that employees they're recognized by others in their organization, and I think that's pretty special.

So whereas Carson City's quality of life attracts talented and loyal employees.

Whereas every day, Carson City employees put to use their broad array of skills and expertise with efficiency and integrity for the benefit of everyone in our city.

Whereas Carson City values its employees and acknowledges that recognizing employees for their hard work and dedication is critical to the future health and growth of our city.

Whereas we owe a substantial debt of gratitude to the Carson City employees and applaud those who go above and beyond in their loyalty and ability.

Whereas Danielle's leadership innovation and dedication have strengthened departmental operations through successful implementation of the Tyler system.

Streamlined processes and professional development.

Okay, Lisa, give her the money.

Give her the money.

And so again, 200 uh goes to the employee of the quarter.

But did you want to say a few words about you?

Marlene Stone for DAS.

Um, the proclamation pretty much summarized all the wonderful things that you do, Daniel.

But your dedication to DAS's success is unmatched.

So this is so deserving.

We are grateful you're part of our team, and I couldn't be happier that you got this.

So thank you.

There you go.

Oh wow.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

They gave you flowers.

Can you get us in?

Congratulations.

It's exorbitant.

I love that word.

We'll give you a real.

Yeah.

Or you could frighten up to you.

Actually, that might be kind of fun if they walked into the bank going, I won this.

Okay.

If we haven't had enough celebrations, we will uh work on this.

Let's see.

I'm not gonna do them in the order I want.

Okay.

So let's have Jessica Melner, a systems administrator for five years.

Wow, that's pretty darn good.

Five years?

I I just seem to remember you when you came on board, and it was like, is that five years?

Wow, really.

Thank you for all that you do.

Are you with that?

Designated uh tell us all that.

Absolutely, Andrew Cobble, for the record.

So today I have the privilege of recognizing someone who has become an essential part of how the city keeps running behind the scenes.

Jess is celebrating five years with the city of Carson City, and in that time she has made a remarkable impact.

She began her career with us on the help desk, where her work ethic and problem solving skills quickly stood out.

It didn't take long for everyone around to see that she brought not just answers, but thoughtful solutions.

The kind that make work easier for her peers and help the city function more smoothly.

As she moved into her current role as a system administrator, Jess took on even greater responsibility.

She now supports the systems that keep our city operations moving every single day.

We hope we have many more years working alongside you here at the Carson uh City of Carson City.

So true.

Okay, we also have with five years of service.

Alexander Alcantor.

Boy, this time sure flies by, but uh I kind of miss seeing y'all at City Hall, though, since you moved to your great new digs at the fire department.

But uh thank you for all you do.

And he has a well, later we'll let everybody join the picture because his little girl's doing pretty good over there.

Good morning, everyone.

Today is a special day to recognize the hard work and dedication that Alex Alcantar has provided the Carson City IT team.

As we reflect on Alex's journey with the city, he started off as a contractor and worked within the help desk team.

After a short time with the help desk team, he quickly promoted to a higher level position as a business systems analyst.

Alex quickly learned his new role and has assisted with various tasks and projects that have positively impacted the city's operations.

We are appreciative and thankful for the effort, teamwork, and positive attitude that Alex brings to work with them each day.

I can say the last five years have flown by and Alex has accomplished a great deal in that amount of time.

We are looking forward to the future and having Alex continue to be a part of the Carson City IT team.

Thanks, Alex.

And then our last one for today with 10 years of service, and I really can't.

I'm like, 10 years.

Come on up, Stephanie Hicks, our deputy city manager, right?

I don't know what else any of us could say, but just hoorah.

And and thank you, right?

Been fantastic.

And oh yes, 20 more.

That's my comment.

Uh-oh, I didn't get 20.

Do we have to start negotiations?

She's our negotiating lady too.

So I'm like, we're gonna have to start negotiating that.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um, as you said, Stephanie's been on the team for 10 years, uh, starting in public works, and everything that went on behind the scenes over there for about three years uh was key to the success of Team Carson in the city at large.

So the residents have no idea the work you've accomplished behind the scenes, but thank you for that.

And if I if I'm correct, I think the one thing you took out of there and is a key tool for there even today is the asset management program.

You initiated that with the team, and we continue to use that today to help make smart decisions where our assets go.

So thank you.

So about three years after that, you stepped up, city manager's office, right?

So you took another lead role.

The first strategic plan you took on uh 22 to 26, I think that one is so uh learned a lot from that and and came back for more punishment.

So you're stepping up again, thank you, and leading the effort this year for fiscal 2731 strategic plan update of which the public input thing uh part just got done.

So thank you for that.

So a lot of things.

I I have a whole bunch of notes here about what was accomplished uh in the last 10 years.

I don't want to take up any time other than to say thank you, Stephanie, for your efforts on behalf of Team Carson, the residents at large, and for me personally, thank you for being here the last nine months.

We would not have accomplished what we had without your help in the front office.

So thank you and congratulations.

Okay.

Now we move to picture time.

So co-workers, family.

Anyone that would like to just join in the celebration of these fantastic employees.

Oh, check that out.

We've been giving the courts a bad time that they keep bringing flowers, so that was sweet.

Very sweet.

Oh, the I think those are real.

Those are real.

Okay, it's an inside joke.

Yes.

Come on in.

Have we got everybody?

Okay.

I know she's gonna work hard for this one.

I've got a cover for a change, right?

That's uh just the right size.

Oh, she made it the whole time.

Oh, yeah.

She's like, No, my job's the checks, not the pictures.

Yay, thank you again so much.

Oh, I love it.

I liked it.

They were good with it.

Yeah, they're gonna last you quite a while.

Oh, got all those.

Okay, we're now on our uh consent agenda.

Does any member want an item pulled for discussion?

Yes, I would like to pull 11a.

11a.

That's it.

Okay, I will accept a motion um for the consent agenda with the exception of 11a.

I move to approve the consent agenda consisting of item uh 8A9A9B, 10A, uh 11B, and 11C, and 12A and 12B.

All is presented.

I second.

I have a motion and a second for approval.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

We'll now move to agenda item 11A to discuss the um contract renewal for the flock group.

Um, good morning, sheriff.

Good morning, Sheriff Furlong for the record.

Uh thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today.

I have a couple of experts that um always come with me when we hit uh high profile topics.

Um, and this is certainly one.

Let me begin with this.

From a national perspective, if there had been one more camera, would Nancy Guthrie be with us today?

Regionally, technology advances us in every opportunity that we have.

It's the foundation of what we do.

You're sitting at this board, and technology is giving you an efficient operation on your computers right there.

It allows you information.

Those people with the most information usually win.

Flock is nothing more than one tool in a tool belt of technology based information platforms that law enforcement uses across the country.

Carson City is probably one of the I at least I consider Carson City to be a leader in technology-based platforms.

Many years back, and as a result of a recent conviction, um, Corey Spurlock came through Carson City and murdered a husband and a wife.

And threw their bodies out on the street in Bridgeport, out on the highway.

Technology from Carson City is what broke that case open.

We have an expectation that law enforcement will do something about the problem.

Years ago, two ladies down in Douglas County were heinously murdered in their homes.

And eventually a husband and wife was murdered up in Washoe County.

The technologies that law enforcement uses, those tools in the belt, whether they are a flock camera, an NCIC hit, a um in any type of platform that we use is used to protect the victims, not to intrude on other people.

Flock does not intrude on people, no more than your camera on your doorbell, no more than the cameras at your bank.

It's used to protect victims.

And law enforcement uses this tool very conservatively to ensure that public the public's privacy is protected.

And if there is any weakness in the program, I have asked, Ms.

Mayor, that the sheriffs and chiefs take a proactive role in this in the upcoming legislative session so that we can soften those gaps so that we can make sure that people's privacy is protected.

Because I will suggest to you that one of the biggest weaknesses that we have is those tools that law enforcement sometimes uses can be turned against the privacy of people without government or law enforcement's engagement.

Yes, I can track my wife's car.

Through the use of government tools, it's ridiculous.

I think that we do have an opportunity here, and I have expressed this to the uh organ to statewide organization of sheriffs and chiefs, that we do look at regulations that strengthen our position and protect the privacy of individuals.

Would Nancy Guthrie be here today had there been one more camera?

So, Sheriff, for me, um I'm really interested in the processes itself.

So the can excuse me, the cameras are recording activities of vehicles going through intersections, etc.

Just recording all the time.

For you to actually access the information, what is required and how does that happen?

I think that for the public, if they understand the process, it may alleviate or reduce their angst.

Thank you for bringing that up, Ms.

Mayor.

Um and I'm going to introduce um Sergeant Benley, who runs our detective division.

He really has streamlined, and each of these board members has had the opportunity to come in, see it, see the technology and how it's used.

I think that's important for the public to be aware of that you folks have done your job about seeing these platforms, not just Flock, but all of these platforms that we uh call information technology in inside of our community.

Um Brett is um our our localized expert, if you will, and he's prepared to answer questions.

Thank you.

Uh Brett Bindley for the record.

Um, I supervise the investigation division, so I supervise the Flock program with that.

So uh to answer your question, Mayor.

Uh Flock has several safeguards in place uh for audit controls and for officers to be able to query plates.

So our system is set up.

Some agencies can set up different safeguards.

We've we've enacted all the safeguards.

So in order to do a search, you have to have a case number or a call number.

You have to have a law enforcement purpose, and then you have to have an underlying crime that you're investigating.

Without entering those three things, you cannot search the system.

If you have not received training on being a flock user, you cannot search the system.

If you do not engage in all the security practices that Flock offers offers, like multi-factor um authentication, uh the access controls that we have for every other system that the sheriff mentioned, you cannot search the system.

So you have to have law enforcement purpose.

You have to have a criminal justice reason behind it, and then you have to have a searchable record to attach to the search.

And then one of the things that I thought was I'm not not necessarily unique, but um that gives me more faith in the system that it's only being used for its appropriate purpose.

And I think it goes with many of the law enforcement databases.

There are audits of the system to ensure that those three components existed for for the searches.

And I think that that's like a financial audit or anything else.

It's always to double check that the intended purposes or rules are being met.

And so you have an annual audit.

I mean, it right that that really does check it and pull random cases or something and says, okay, yes, all three elements existed.

So do you have an audit?

We do have an audit process within the policy.

It's executed on a regular basis.

Okay, because that just again gives me.

And then maybe I can ask even a different question.

If I were to look in the department, um, how many actually have the certification or the necessary tools that can search?

Is that a handful?

Is there 10 people, 20 people?

It's it's a small cadre of people that can submit maybe for a search versus doing it themselves.

Uh so I'm interested.

Our heaviest users are our detectives and our real-time information center uh folks.

Dispatch is a very heavy user of it.

Um our patrol deputies do have act of more limited access to the system, uh, but they are allowed to use it because the information becomes less valuable the longer it takes us to discover it.

So having a patrol officer having access to the system leads to success of the system.

Okay.

So I I think the the real issue becomes, right?

Where's the privacy right versus the law enforcement tool and and where do they converge?

Where do those two things come together?

So I really appreciate that you're gonna that you're willing to look at legislation to protect the privacy side.

You know, and I think that Carson City does a phenomenal job having the three-way test for anybody to be able to get into the system.

But I'd love to see that just as legislation because the outlying concern is um can a law so can Washoe County search our system or they contact us and we search it?

Uh, Washoe County can search our system, we search, we share with other agencies in Nevada.

So I'm really interested in the legislation that protects across across the jurisdictions that were that everyone is is as um vital protectors of privacy, right?

That there has to be a case number, there has to be an underlying law enforcement need.

I cannot predict the legislature.

Um, but I did speak with representative O'Neill, PK O'Neill, and he did express interest in this topic uh in the upcoming session, even though he is passing through the torch.

Okay.

Sheriff, do uh does your um does your association get uh uh BDR?

I don't think we have we have lobbyists, but I don't think we have a BDR number.

So I maybe reach out to NACO.

Um NACO gets five bills.

I I don't know where we are on what bills we're looking at yet, but this seems like it's one.

I I don't know what use Flock has statewide.

Do you know how many counties are using Flock?

Do you do you guys do you have any Sergeant?

Any problem concept?

Off top of my head, there's about 20 agencies that use it.

I think it's about eight different counties.

Don't quote me on that.

That's just so I mean NACO usually on record don't quote.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're kind of quoted when you're on the record.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't speak with specificity on that.

There you go.

Very good.

Very good.

Um that was pretty good, Ken.

Um so um, yeah, I I I mean, what NACO looks for is bills that are um uh that have broad appeal across counties.

Um so maybe you can you know get me some information or reach out to Amy, who's our current exact uh acting executive, talk to me afterwards.

Um Sergeant, I one of the things I think um that I know of from my time in public safety is that um you talk about an audit, which is sort of an internal audit, but there's also an outside agency that does an audit when you run plates.

I don't recall now, it's been a number of years, but um, so you're looked at by an outside agency because you without access through the state, you wouldn't be able to get at um those items and CIC and plates, and so I think it's important for people to know that there is an audit that confirms that you're not just running plates because you know somebody cut you off or or you know your your uh Uber driver was poor, you know.

Over the I'm just gonna call it last 20 years for the fun, um, not to be quoted.

Um yes, our internal procedures have detected uh employees violating those rules and just severe disciplinary action has has resulted.

Uh along with that, we do have our federal platforms that require annual auditing.

Um the sheriff's office, to my knowledge, has never failed one of those audits.

They are intensive at times, um, but in each case, and uh we had Jen uh here today with our dispatch.

She is our TAC uh terminal agency coordinator, and um those audits are ongoing and continuous all the time.

Internally and then annually, as Supervisor Jomey has suggested.

And I think that that's the that's having that knowledge in my mind is critical.

And I think the other critical component is uh that that I spoke to uh counsel.

Um I'll I'll paraphrase uh he's certainly welcome to jump in, but um essentially that this the use of flock is not gone before the Nevada Supreme Court.

However, there are uh courts nationwide that have heard this and have upheld the use of Flock.

Um and I think um or or systems similar to that.

Um and I think that's another component that that was important for me to understand that that to put that on the a record officially on the record.

Perfect.

Supervisor White.

Thank you.

Uh I too harbor some pretty serious concerns about this kind of a system, as Kenny and Brett and Craig can attest uh from my questions and from my tour of their control center down there.

And as I told them, uh when I see these sort of systems, 1984 starts bouncing around inside my skull like you can't believe.

But uh I have I have read this contract.

I have uh toured that system, probably asked more questions than you've ever been asked.

Um of the concerns that we heard this morning was ownership and the use of that system, where one of the speakers said that we no longer have control that flock can do anything with it with the information that they want.

Um as I read the the cust the the contract and as you folks have responded, um they can only access customer data, which Carson City is the customer to uh provide maintain and improve the services.

So can you highlight that a little bit?

Tell us really what those three words uh mean and and how it restricts Flock from just doing anything they want to do.

So in our terms of conditions, Flock can use some of the data that we have in order to uh for instance diagnose how cameras are working or if they're pointed a correct direction, is there light interference?

Um also they can use it for the purposes of like overall system development and uh further development of their technology as far as the plates that the system reads or retains, that is our data, and we control how it is uh dispersed.

The the other thing uh that seems to be a concern from the public is the level of information uh that is contained in those records as as I understand how the system works, it's just a series of photographs.

There's no personal data in there.

If you want personal data, you have to take that license plate number um and call that in and get the personal information from there.

Flock can't do that, a private citizen can't do that.

So um is that your understanding of of the level of information that is retained in those uh flock generated uh records?

That's all correct what you just said.

Thank you.

I don't see any other questions from the board.

Is there anyone else that wants to make additional public comment?

Mr.

French.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh Denny French, Carson City, Nevada.

I would love to have heard what those questions were from Supervisor White.

He's very thorough in his investigation, so I'm sure that his questions were broad.

And mine is that it wasn't anything brought up about facial recognition or then those informations from there.

I'm just not sure that there's really a true set response.

I mean, legislative end perhaps in the future, as it is now, I just have too many discomforts about it.

It's not a preventive as much as because I don't believe psychologically people are if they're bound to do something terrible or worried about the camera.

But I do feel in the follow-up investigations, it can be very helpful.

My my concerns are that we're getting overloaded with electronics, period, in this community.

And those are an issue for myself personally for my physical health, but that I just don't feel feel there's enough safeguards.

And then to have people another group come in.

But I am feeling better about the fact that only certain information is supposed to be gone unless somebody's looking up your license plates and then has access to research the ownership of that vehicle.

But I'm just I'm just not comfortable with it.

And I certainly wasn't comfortable seeing it on the consent form.

So thank you, Lisa, for airing that, and thank you for doing your research and that you're feeling comfortable.

But I'm not so I think more work has to be done on this, and I I'm glad it was tabled for the moment or put up for vote, but I would rather see it flagged a little bit longer until the community can feel better about it.

Thank you.

Well, let's be clear.

I'm not completely comfortable.

No, I I didn't mean to infer that, but I I agree with you that there are things that I have and that other people have uh concerns about, and I don't think today has really changed that for me.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Do I have anyone else that okay?

I'll bring it.

Oh, sorry, Supervisor Horton.

Red, could you pop back up for a minute?

Just real quick for clarification.

If if you're doing an investigation, you see a license plate on the still photo from the flock system, and you want to run it, then you have to go through NCICE C just all those procedures as well, right?

Which all have safeguards built into them as well.

That's all correct.

So there's a dual process, in other words, you need safeguards to get the flock information.

There are safeguards for you to then pursue that information, such as a license plate through the process that you have in place and the federal rules and regulations, right?

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

Supervisor.

Can you also, while you're here, can you also confirm that it's only capturing the license plate?

That it's not capturing.

Well, go ahead.

Tell us.

I'm sorry, it does carry it does capture an image of the vehicle along with the license plate.

Okay, but it's not capturing a uh image of a person unless it happens to be in the vehicle.

In the vehicle.

Well, I mean, it's it's not a frontal view of a person, it's not facial recognition, is what I'm getting at.

It is not facial recognition that that way.

I can see an arm hanging out the window or whatever when it's driving by because it's capturing the picture.

And it's taking pictures, not video.

So incidentally, it could capture a picture of a person, but it is not designed for that and is not facial recognition.

Right.

Okay.

I'll bring it back up here, then thank you so much.

Um for uh motion, a discussion further.

Umti.

Well, I I'm comfortable in uh renewing the contract.

I appreciate the discussion on the record.

I think it's really important that the community understands the why, the what, the how, what this system does, what it doesn't do, and its purpose.

And I I appreciate the the conversation, the questions, the dialogue, and the um emphasis on making sure that this is used strictly for its purpose, that there isn't the mission creep, if you will.

So thank you.

Okay.

Anyone else?

Uh motion, Supervisor Giomi.

I move to approve and authorize the sheriff to sign the contract renewal is presented.

I second.

I have a motion and a second.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

Thank you.

And maybe sometime I see Sherry back there.

We have an internal auditor that sometimes we look for different departments or different things to review.

Potentially we can just have a validation of their audit sometimes, you know, or something of that nature.

So just as an added layer of protection for everyone.

So just a thought.

Thank you so much.

Okay, we're now gonna go on to agenda item 14A, which is discussion and action to fill an open space advisory committee.

Uh partial one.

Let's see.

Uh Stacy, may I have your disclosure, please?

Yes, ma'am.

Yeah, I can't.

Get it going here.

Uh NRS 2801A.420 requires me to disclose a conflict of interest and abstain from voting when I have a disqualifying conflict.

In addition to my position as a Carson City supervisor, I'm also an appointed member of the board of directors for the Carson Water Subconservancy District as a representative of Carson City for the purpose of developing regional planning and management solutions for the Carson River watershed.

Brenda Hunt is the watershed program manager for the subconservancy district.

As a director for the subconservancy district, I do vote on budget matters that could include employee salaries, but that is part of a routine procedural course of action.

I do not directly oversee Ms.

Hunt, nor do I have any involvement in her day-to-day work, job performance, hiring or firing for that position.

In this circumstance, I do not believe that I have a commitment to Ms.

Hunt in a private capacity.

And my independence of judgment is not materially affected by my acquaintance with her through our concurrent involvement with the subconservancy district.

I make this disclosure for full transparency, but I do not have a disqualifying conflict, and I will be voting on this matter.

Thank you so much.

Supervisor Shuty, your disclosure, please.

Is it ditto?

Yeah.

NRS 281A.420 requires me to disclose conflict of interest and abstain from voting when I have a disqualifying conflict.

In addition to my position as a Carson City supervisor, I'm also an appointed member of the Board of Directors for the Carson Water Subconservancy District as a representative of Carson City for the purpose of developing regional planning and management solutions for the Carson River watershed.

Brenda Hunt is a watershed program manager for the subconservancy district.

As a director for the subconservancy district, I do vote on budget matters that could include employee salaries, but that is part of a routine procedural course of action.

I do not directly oversee Ms.

Hunt and do not have any involvement in her day-to-day work, job performance or hiring or firing at that position.

In this circumstance, I do not believe that I have a com I do not believe that I have a commitment to Ms.

Hunt in a private capacity through our concurrent involvement with the subconservancy.

Additionally, I am in the Carson City Rotary Club with Gary Collins.

While I am acquainted with Mr.

Collins, I do not have a commitment in the private capacity to him.

I make these disclosures for full transparency, but my independence of judgment is not materially affected in either circumstance.

And therefore, because I do not have a disqualifying conflict, I will be voting on this matter.

Thank you so much.

Okay, it's my turn.

Half ditto and half ditto, right?

Okay.

Um NRS 281A 420 requires me to disclose a conflict of interest and abstain from voting when I have a disqualifying conflict.

In my private capacity, I serve in an unpaid role as treasurer of the foundation for Carson City Parks and Recreation, which is a nonprofit organization that has been working in collaboration with the city on the Seahill Flag Restoration and the Garrison Flag Projects.

William Anderson has made a cash donation to the foundation as a contribution toward the purchase of one of those beautiful big new flags coming your way.

I do not have a pecuniary interest in any capacity with respect to the flag projects.

And I do not have a commitment in a private capacity to Mr.

Anderson.

Additionally, I am in the Carson City Rotary Club with Gary Collins.

While I'm acquainted with Mr.

Collins, I do not have a commitment in a private capacity to Mr.

Collins.

I make these disclosures for full transparency, but my independence of judgment is not materially affected in either circumstance.

And therefore, because I do not have a disqualifying conflict, I will be voting on this matter.

Really goes to show what a small worthy community we have that wants to volunteer to do all of these commissions and committees.

So with that, um, we will start our interview process.

And so you're taking whom out.

Okay, so we'll start with uh Blake.

Sorry, William Anderson.

I know that's okay.

I'm really Lorraine, but everybody knows me as Lori, so I get it.

Okay.

So you you've never been through the process for appointments?

Not this process, no.

Oh, we're gonna have fun with you.

No.

But it is William Blake Anderson.

I'm I go by Blake, legal name William, middle name Blake.

There you go, right?

So what we're gonna do is um ask you some questions.

They'll be pretty much the same that we ask all the candidates.

Um you can then uh make a like a closing statement if there's something that you want to bring out onto the record, because we already review everyone's applications and things like that.

Um, and then you're welcome to stay and listen to everyone else before we make the decision.

We've asked the others to step out, obviously, so they can't hear your answers or have more time to develop their answers is the real one, right?

Um so that's that's the process we're going to um go through here this morning with you.

So my question is um what is it that you think you can add or benefit the open space committee if we were to select you?

Excellent.

Thank you, madam mayor.

Um I'm a business owner in town.

I facilitate decisions throughout my day, managing people, managing ideas, many of them provided by expertise that's outside of my norm.

So I bring an excitement to it because I love the open space, but I also bring a skill set that allows me to construct decisions based on evidence, balance, efficiency, and all of those matters that come into a quality decision within the business arena and within this arena when we are making you know recommendations to you.

It needs to become from a well-founded position of uh knowledge and balance uh in accordance with the goals and the priorities of open space.

That would be my most simple answer for that.

Um I I also guarantee there's you know ideas and parts of this that aren't understood until practiced, and an acceptance of information and process is very important.

So a willingness to learn comes with this, and better is the the uh commissioned committee as a whole.

Great, thank you.

Supervisor uh Giomi.

Um, can you share your thoughts on how you will prioritize spending question 18 funds uh for open space?

What would your or will your specific priorities be?

My specific priorities.

Well, it needs to align with the goals of the open space committee, right?

Access and equitable access to our open space for our community is is absolutely necessary.

So maintaining that access is a huge priority for myself.

But when it comes to identifying priorities across, it comes back to that like decision making process.

What is the best utilization for hitting the goals of open space as a whole and as the city's like master plan?

So a utilization of funds may be more efficiently used in one project at a point and and not in another, and back to the point where I would rely on the expertise of our city employees, our contracted professionals to help align that decision and help me make that decision or make that decision as the group, right?

Thank you.

Supervisor White.

Thank you.

So kind of a two-part question.

Where do you think we are in the life expectancy of question 18?

And do you think there are any adjustments we should make at this point?

Just making notes, making sure I get both parts.

Uh the life of 18.

So 1997, uh 18 comes in quarter of a percent of sales.

Um started with the development of the pool, uh, right.

Well, the bond measure came after that.

Um so we have this period of growth with immediate priorities, and then an act like accumulation of land has seemed to be the priority since then.

I believe I've I've learned that some of the priorities have shifted shifted from that accumulation of land to a focus sometimes on water rights, but also on the proper maintenance of the assets that we have.

So through that timeline, I believe we are on the management portion of it and still maintaining access for everybody as the world changes around it.

I imagine that water rights and access to water and connectivity of water through open space corridors is important.

I think that was seen when we had the Moffitt adjustments come across where they were building and needed to uh create the water containment for the building going out there.

So they worked on the Moffitt part.

So obviously a priority there.

Um I don't believe any spending came from that though.

So a little bit hard to associate that to 18.

Um that would be that would be my straight answer, you know.

18 has grown from accumulating now into maintaining and nurturing our resources and allowing access to passive activity.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

Supervisor Horton.

Good morning, Blake.

How are you doing?

Um it's is it 690 uh somewhere in there?

Uh excluding easements.

I believe it's in there.

It's 21 plus properties with some easements allowed in there, parks, um, the specific number spaces.

Apologize.

You're close.

Yeah.

Um what is your understanding of the roles, responsibilities, and authority of the committee members of open space?

Committee is to uh take into account the listed and you know public goals of open space to utilize the information provided on agenda items to make recommendations to the board of supervisors for final decision, mostly on that.

So layman's terms, uh although that was layman's terms, um, to simplify further to utilize access to information that we are provided through the professionals contracted public or whatever to make a cut like a decision in our group to present to you for your decisions, allocation of funds, so on so forth.

Thank you.

Supervisor Shuti.

It's always so difficult being the last person.

Thank you for um applying.

And so my question: what do you see as um critical needs for car for open space and how do you envision being able to manage the differing perspectives of land use?

Yeah.

I I think um I touched on it briefly with like equal access to open space for passive activity, right?

You know, it needs to be it needs to align with the goals of maintaining our open space.

You know, not everyone can go play soccer in the middle of you know, regrowth areas and and so on and so forth.

But um people are going to have different perspectives, different ideas, but internalizing different goals for access to open space and trying to understand them firmly and thoroughly before making a judgment is important because we want to allow access for all of our constituency, all of our community.

We want them to be able to find the growth and opportunity that I found in growing on open space and that my children find going to the river and learning about currents.

Like it should be for everybody, but it needs to align with the back to the goals of the open space and the master plan there for Carson City and their open space program.

We can't we can't forget that.

Thank you.

Yep.

Okay.

So now you have an opportunity just to address us as uh why pick Blake.

Absolutely.

I'm a I I utilize the parks.

I'm passionate about parks, recreation.

I have I'm a local, I'm a I'm I'm a Carson Reticent resident, I have a three-year-old and a five-year-old.

We're hikers, we're bikers, we love it.

I grew up with it.

I see the value that open space can bring, not only from the family level, but also for being a part of the bigger picture that makes Carson great.

Let's attract those like tourism dollars.

Let's attract those people that find value in the resources that we have.

I think it really adds to the bigger picture of Carson City.

And I believe that I can bring a different perspective and some exuberance and excitement to the committee, a willingness to learn.

I think all of those factors will allow me to be greatly successful in this role.

Thank you again so much for um applying and you're welcome to like I said, stay and listen to uh to the uh interviews of the other candidates, and then we'll make our selection.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate your time.

Okay, thanks.

Brenda, come on up.

Good morning.

Push the button and it'll there you go, stays green.

Um so we'll ask you a series of questions.

Um, and then you can make like a closing argument is the why, Brenda, and then you're welcome to stay and listen to the final candidate that's going to come, and then the board will make its decision.

So we'll just start off with uh thank you for applying.

And we know how much fun it is to do public interviews.

Yeah, but uh it takes it takes great community members to be willing to do that.

So we'll start off with a just a huge thank you.

So my question is if we were to select you for the committee, what would you add or how would you benefit the committee?

Um my addition would be um I have a about 35 years of environmental um experience, both in my current position um for the past 15 years here in this community um dealing with the Carson River watershed.

Um I think my the value that I would add is bringing all of that to bear, you know, for this committee and being able to provide uh that experience, the advice, uh the potential knowledge to to help make this committee make decisions that would then advise you your board um on you know positively um on on the different aspects of uh open space.

I mean, you have an amazing group of people who work in open space right now.

Um I have had the pleasure of working with them in my current position, but I think my expertise as an individual and bringing that to bear would be um what I would add.

Great.

Uh Supervisor Gione.

Uh Blinda, uh please share your thoughts uh with us on how you will prioritize spending question 18 funds uh for open space.

What would your specific priorities be?

Well, I know that you've moved from actual um purchasing of lands to more uh management of lands.

Um I think um my I I believe that I would be looking at and using the information that the staff gives us uh to determine what is the what is the best way to move forward and then looking at what the community has desired.

Um I wouldn't want to bring just my own you know expertise to bear in making those decisions.

I think that needs to be a group decision.

Um, but I do feel like it's very important to protect floodplains, it's very important to protect our natural resources.

I think that the city has done that amazingly well.

So it's basically just looking at how better man to manage those different lands, and then when there are opportunities to add to those open spaces or to corridors, I think that would be um where you would want to prioritize um land purchases.

Supervisor White.

Thank you.

Good morning, Brenda.

Good morning.

So tell us where you think we are at in the life of question 18.

And do you think there are any adjustments that need to be made?

Um where we're at is I think this is the 30-year anniversary of the Quality of Life Initiative.

I believe we have or Carson City has been super successful in protecting the Carson River watershed corridor through the through the city.

I think there could be some additions potentially on the on the east side.

I looked at the agenda items for for next week's meeting and uh did notice that there were quite a few yellow pieces of land that are opportunities.

So I do feel like right now question one, we've done a lot of the hard um work of protecting the land, now we just need to manage it.

And I think the different aspects are looking at how do we um get more use.

How do we get families to be know that there's a all these lands available to them to recreate on?

Um I think we I think that the city is doing a really good job of that.

That could be an area where more is happening.

Um and I think they they have that in mind already.

Um but I'm I've I feel like I could add value in that regard because of my experience in outreach and um helping get the word out, you know, to about the positive nature of our of your open spaces.

Thank you.

Supervisor Horton.

Good morning.

Morning.

Do you know how many acres of open space we have?

Oh I do.

I did have that.

Um it's I think 7,000 approximately 7,000 acres is um I'm not positive.

I have I would have to search through my notes right now to find it.

You're fine.

No problem.

Thanks.

What is your understanding of the roles, responsibilities, and authority of the open space committee members?

Uh my understanding is that we would be an advisory committee to the board.

Um we would be looking at budgets, we would be looking at how the different work plans, uh, we would be approving work plans to to spend those dollars, um, some of the capital projects to spend those dollars.

Um I understand it's about between a million and 1.6 million dollars that we would be responsible for helping uh determine um the open space efforts you know moving forward, and then we would be advising the board on those um and whether or not you chose to pass them.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Supervisor Shuti.

Thank you for applying, Larry.

Um, what do you see as critical needs for open space and how do you envision being able to manage the differing perspectives for land use?

Okay, so I might have to have you ask that a little more time.

So, and uh I was just realizing I didn't word it very well, but so what do you see to be critical needs for open space?

And how do you envision being able to manage the differing perspectives for how to use the land?

Um some of the critical needs are just continuing to find those opportunities to protect uh additional uh places, especially if they're uh critical to wildlife corridor, if they're critical for floodplain management or flood attenuation, or um, because there could be a few different areas where if you if you protected those lands, you would just get a bigger bang for your buck.

Um I also think that some of the critical need is to manage, and you know that now that you've done all the hard work of protecting, I think you're um there are a number of um plans that um are being put forward.

Um I've been um lucky to work on the Carson Um River Master Plan of late, um and that hadn't been updated since 1996, so I think that's a really important uh effort that's moving forward.

I do think that it's there is probably some planning that needs to occur, but in general, uh Carson City has done an amazing job of doing smaller plans that um that provide um a lot of documentation on what needs to happen moving forward.

So just utilizing that information and moving forward.

I think in most instances, the you just find where the common ground is.

Yeah.

Well, now's your opportunity to tell us why we should pick Brenda.

Um pick me.

Uh I think I have a um a big picture view of things.

I am a kind of I look at the details, but I definitely see how things interrelate.

And I think that that could make me very valuable.

I don't necessarily think like a lot of other people.

I'm I'm not very narrow in my in my focus.

I'm very broad-minded, and I like to see how you know I I look at integrating integrated management and how can we add value or where are the synergistic things happening between you know parks and open space, between you know, health and open space, between a lot of different things.

So I think I bring that um to the table.

Okay.

Well, again, thank you so very much for applying and interviewing this morning, and you're welcome to uh stay in the audience and listen to our final interview, and then we'll make our selection.

Thank you very much.

Okay, we have Bryce Collins.

Is it Colleens?

Colleen's, I just realized that, sorry.

So the other two thank you so much for applying for this position.

We're very appreciative when we have the public that's willing to provide public service for free.

So, no, anyway, I just thought I'd mention that.

You know, there's no pay.

But um, yeah, thank you so very much.

So the process is we'll ask you a series of questions, and then since you're the last interview, um, then we'll as the board will make a decision on who will appoint to this.

All right.

So my question for you is if we were to select you for this position, what is it that you would add or benefit to the committee?

Um I think a microphone on, please.

Oops, sorry, I didn't realize you weren't green.

I apologize, sorry.

I think being born and raised here, um, I have a real commitment to our community and seeing what happens here.

Um I'm I feel like I can represent an underserved demographic, which is young families in town, um, as I have two young children that I'm raising here.

Um other than that, I think I can bring um a unique perspective to the board as I'm a licensed professional engineer in Nevada, and I think sometimes that can help a board make a tough technical decision.

Great, thank you.

Supervisor Gioni.

Um Bryce, uh please um share your thoughts on how you will prioritize spending question 18 funds uh for open space purposes.

What what would your specific priorities be?

Um I'm unfamiliar with question 18.

I'm sorry.

Okay, thank you.

Supervisor White.

Thank you.

Morning, Bryce.

Good morning.

Um I think I know the answer to this question.

Uh where are we at in the life of question 18?

And do you think there are any adjustments that need to be made?

Yeah, again, apologize, I'm unfamiliar.

Thank you.

Supervisor Horton.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Do you know how many acres of open space we have?

Uh I do not know off the top of my head.

Thank you.

No problem.

Um what is your understanding of the roles, responsibilities, and authority of the open space board members?

Responsible for making recommendations to the Planning Commission on how we see responsible development going forward.

Thank you.

Supervisor Shooty.

Hello, and thank you for applying.

Hello.

My question is what do you see to be critical needs for open space?

And how do you envision being able to manage the differing perspectives for land use?

Again, kind of what I was saying previously.

Thank you for your question.

I believe that the most important thing is responsible development of our open space.

And I think you know, there are differing opinions within the community of what the best use is for our most precious resource, which is open space.

And as a public servant for my career, I believe that you know we our job is to be the steward of whatever the resources and then this capacity would be the open space.

And so it's not your decision that you're making, it's the public's decision, and you need to be a voice for the public no matter what that is.

Thank you.

Okay, now it's your op tell us overall, why should we uh select you for this position?

Um, like I said, my background, um, you know, I graduated Carson High School once you and R.

Um, you know, I'm born and raised here, my parents are born and raised here.

Um, I have a really big interest in keeping Carson City uh, you know, kind of the gem that it is.

Um I'm a licensed professional engineer in Nevada.

I think that can be beneficial for any board or commission that I can sit on.

Um, other than that, uh like I said earlier, um, I think I can represent an underserved demographic with young families.

And I just kind of want to end on I really care about what happens to our city, and if I can be the voice to lead that, I think that would be a really great opportunity.

Thank you again so much for applying.

It's very much appreciated.

Um the candidates are fine candidates, and so it really makes it difficult for us to choose, right?

Y'all made it hard on us.

You're not gonna keep anything easy, but uh we have a task, so um do we want to talk about it?

Anyone want to jump out with their first thoughts?

Supervisor White's willing to go first.

I think this is uh today a clear case of application versus the interview for me.

Um with that, I I would like to say I I would put my thumb very heavily on the scale for Blake.

Okay.

Do we have somebody else that wants to jump in?

Supervisor Shooty, are you getting ready to tell me who you're voting for?

Um, first of all, I appreciate everybody's um willingness and um desire to serve, and I really am so uh moved by just the the commitment to this community at the very end, there was um a couple descriptions used that I think are very important to this committee, and it was synergistic relationship and integrated management, and I see open space and how we we um look at and manage um the projects and the funding as uh being critical as those those ideas being critical to this, and so um Blake and Brenda are very close, but I um am leaning toward Brenda also with her knowledge of the watershed.

Um that would be my vote.

I would also be very comfortable with Blake.

Okay.

Um wants to go next.

Oh, Curtis will do it.

I'll go.

Uh-oh.

If we do if we say it earlier, then we might not be the tiebreaker.

So this one's one go ahead, Curtis.

Well, thank you all for applying.

And I and I know it takes time out of your day and your evenings and your life, and it's important that people step up and are willing to participate in our community like that.

So thank you for that.

Um great candidates.

I think all of you could add something to the organization that might help us move forward.

Uh my personal view is I wouldn't I would have to lean toward Blake at this point.

Okay.

Um wanna go, Stacey.

Yeah.

Not really, but I will.

Okay.

Um I might get off the hook.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get off the hook.

That's why he's doing this to me.

This is very difficult.

Um I I think that um yeah, it's yeah, I mean, literally, I had different things Blake and I agree with Chris.

I think any of the three of you could could add value.

Um for me, it comes down to a question of what we have on the board now and what we're lacking, and I think.

Wow, this is really difficult.

This is one of the hardest decisions I've made sitting here.

No, it's hard.

Um I think Blake has a slight advantage for me.

Well, I will go on the record because I think that um, I think it's true, right?

You look at the committee itself, you look at what all its duties are.

And you also a little bit going along with Supervisor White's question is where are we in the process?

Where are we today?

So when I'm looking to fill the position, it's what can I add to the committee that propels me to the next stage of where we're at, right?

Or what can a committee member bring that I don't think a staff perspective is there, right?

Because sometimes I think staff is hyper focused on an issue that they're trying to bring forward, and rightfully so, right?

So sometimes you need a board member to go, woohoo.

What about X?

Right.

And then everybody goes, Oh, what about that?

You know, so I I always look to where am I in the process.

And so I I'm going to say that I thought two candidates were looking for how do we grow open space for families.

Two of you hit on the fact that growing it for families is important.

And I think for me, that's one of the most important stages that we're at with open space, because I think it's one of the most wonderful assets that we have in our community.

And I have often said that I think the arts and the parks and recreation are what bring mental health to our community.

And I think that's a safety, a public safety issue.

Anything I can do to give people that place.

So I think two of you hit on something that I think is absolutely vital at this stage of time.

I think Brenda brings just a boatload of expertise, right, to the committee.

Very strong in all of those aspects.

But when I look across the system of what I need on the board, and I'm gonna be really ugly about this, but I think Brenda will serve us no matter what.

But right now I think the committee needs anything it can do to get more public involvement with our open space properties.

So I think two of you really hit that well, and then I think that Blake, though, answered some additional questions besides that component that leans it to um Blake.

So I'm gonna vote for Blake also.

And could accept anybody, because you were all great.

Um, like I said, Carson City's pretty darn lucky to have such great candidates.

So with that, Supervisor White, would you like to make the motion?

I will.

I move to a point.

William Blake Anderson to the open space advisory committee to fill a partial term expiring in January 2028.

I have a motion and a second to appoint William Blake, the infamous Blake.

Umerson to the committee.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

And again, thank you, Brenda.

Thank you so much for applying.

And don't stop applying.

I want to tell you both, right?

Keep on keep on doing that.

Okay.

Um we'll do agenda item 15A and 15B.

Then we'll take a small recess because I think we can get through these ones.

Agenda item 15A is discussion of possible action to remove taxes and penalties in the amount of $13,778.5 cents.

Does any member have a question on this item?

Pretty standard.

Is there any public comment on this item?

I'll accept a motion.

Supervisor Giomi.

Move to approve the removal of taxes and penalties from the insecure tax roll as requested.

I have a motion and a second for approval.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

I'm gonna work, I'm really gonna work her out on the next one too.

Okay.

Um agenda item 15B, discussion and possible action on the request for partial removal of $3,227 and 91 cents for Blackstone Ranch.

Um, because the school district bought some property there, and gosh darn, we can't get taxes from them.

But does any member have a question on this item?

Is there any public comment on this item?

No, I'll accept a motion, please.

Go ahead, Supervisor Giomi.

You're there.

Um I move to approve the partial removal of real property taxes and the issuance of a refund as requested.

Second for approval.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

Thank you so much.

Okay, we're gonna take try to come right back at 10 30.

Everybody has enough time to bring the board back to order.

We're now going to um continue with agenda item 16A.

This is discussion of possible action on our tentative budget and our supplemental requests and the processes that we're gonna go through to get to a final budget.

But uh Curtis, your turn for a disclosure, please.

Right, I didn't want to get left out.

Good old NRS 281A420 requires me to disclose a conflict and abstain from voting when I have a disqualifying conflict.

This agenda item is for the proposed Carson City Fiscal Year 2027 tentative budget, which includes the general fund special revenue fund, enterprise fund, and all other budgeted funds in the city.

My two sons are employed by the city as firefighters, and their salaries are funded by the general fund.

While I do have a familial relationship, this agenda item is a routine procedural matter for the broader purpose of taking action on the city's overall budget.

And my son's salaries are being considered along with other employees' salaries in the aggregate.

There is no discussion specific to my son's individual salaries, nor is there any discussion specifically related to their employee positions.

Additionally, Nevada's ethic laws give appropriate deference to the public policy of the state, which favor the rights of the public official to perform the duties for which the public official was elected or appointed, and to vote because excuse me, because abstention disrupts the normal course of representative government.

Since abstention is the only required is only required in clear cases where there is an independence of judgments of a reasonable person in my situation, would be materially affected, and I do not believe that to be the case because this agenda matter concerns broad policy considerations related to the budgetary issues as a whole.

I make this disclosure for full transparency, but we'll be voting.

Thank you so much.

I think there's a ditto coming up from supervisor shooting.

It's a ditto once again.

All right, NRS 281A.420 requires me to disclose a conflict and abstain from voting when I have a disqualifying conflict.

This agenda item is for the proposed Carson City Fiscal Year 2027 tentative budget, which includes the general funds, special revenue funds, enterprise funds, and all other budgeted funds in the city.

My nephew, Chris Martinovich, is the city's transportation manager, and his salary is funded by the regional transportation fund and the fleet management fund.

While I do have a familial relationship with Chris, this is a routine procedural matter for the broader purpose of taking action on the city's overall budget, and my nephew's salary is being considered along with other employees' salaries in the aggregate.

There is no discussion specific to Chris's individual's salary, nor is there any discussion specifically related to the position of transportation manager.

Additionally, Nevada's ethics law give appropriate deference to the public policy of this state, which favors the right of a public official to perform the duties for which the public official was elected or appointed and to vote because abstention disrupts the normal course of representative government.

Since abstention, it's only required in clear cases where the independence of judgment of a reasonable person in my situation would be materially affected.

And I do not believe that to be the case because this agenda matter concerns broad policy considerations related to budgetary issues as a whole.

I make this disclosure for full transparency, and I will be voting.

Thank you so much.

Okay, with that, uh Mrs.

Benaboo, do you want to start us off this morning?

Good morning, yes.

Thank you.

Um Cherry Russell Benaboo, Chief Financial Officer for the record.

Um first I want to start off.

There was an error on the staff report.

Um we do present to advisory committees and the RTC, um, which is an action committee.

Uh the budgets, uh, the tentative budgets before you today.

Uh the capital, however, is presented, but not heavily discussed.

Um, so they did not actually give uh advice on the capital plan.

Um, however, the capital plan is strictly approved by the board of supervisors.

So even if they did make a recommendation, you have every right to change that recommendation as the board.

So I just wanted to point out it is in the last paragraph of the background.

That was an error on my part.

And thank you, uh, Mr.

White for letting us know and getting that on the record.

Um, I'd also like to take a moment to thank everybody involved in putting this together.

Um, the finance staff works late nights and we present to various um boards and commissions.

Um we actually start working on this in December, so it's definitely not thrown together.

Um we do the assumptions we bring you in February, and um I can't thank enough the departments that heavily get involved with this.

Um, the more information, the better this document is, and the departments really care and do get involved.

Um, and that information is truly priceless.

So I want to thank the departments.

Um then I also want to talk about the tentative budget.

So the tentative budget was required to be filed with the state yesterday.

Um, it only includes contractual increases from our bargaining units.

Um, there's a few state contracts that like um child protective services who we have an agreement with.

If those are increased, we include those in the tentative budget as well.

Um, but really it's very baseline.

We do not have any of the supplementals and very little of the capital is included.

Um, if it's a restricted fund, we do include the capital, but it can be changed based on um what happens and what's approved here today.

So with that, I'll jump into this presentation.

Um the first two slides are just a broad overview of um all 43 um funds.

So it includes um enterprise funds and governmental type funds.

Um the revenue of those funds, um, the biggest piece of the pie there is intergovernmental revenue, and that includes our consolidated taxes, it includes some state pass-through dollars, federal, state, and local grants.

Um we did increase this by about two percent for 2027.

And that was discussed when we did the assumptions in February.

I have no change to that as of today.

And then there's charges for services, is another big category.

It's broken out into three separate pieces of this pie, the enterprise fund or enterprise, which is our utility funds, ambulance, cemetery, and then building permits.

And then our internal service charge funds.

Those are internal services for the rest of the city, such as fleet, insurance, workers' comp.

And then there's other charges for services there than the purple.

And that is our consolidated plan, landfill, health department charges for their environmental review.

So those are all those little charges there.

And then property taxes is another big piece there, the blue.

And that as stated on the record when we did the assumptions in February is a 5.5% increase from prior year.

And that's really all I need to talk about there, unless anybody has any questions.

Please stop me if you have any questions.

I'm happy to answer them along the way.

The next slide is the expenditure summary.

And public safety, as always, is the biggest piece of the pie.

This includes fire, ambulance, sheriff, juvenile probation detention, the 911 surcharge, our alternative sentencing, as well as other public safety grants.

And then the general government there is all of our city hall departments, extraordinary maintenance, there's capital projects.

So again, this is all the funds, not just the general fund.

And then the utilities is the third largest there, water, sewer, stormwater.

Those are all of our largest expenditures there.

The next slide is really a recap of the previous two slides.

That's where I got the information.

And a couple of people pointed out oh my god, expenses exceed revenues.

Yes, they do, and they always do.

If you look in the audited year 2025, they do not.

Um from that year, um, 124,000 that will be spent in mostly in 2026, but we did have some undesignated that we'll be spending on capital that we purposely rolled forward to 2027.

Um, and so 2027 beginning fund balance is 34,600,000.

By the end of that, it's 6.2 million.

Again, this is all of our funds.

So 16.2 million.

So again, this is all of our funds.

Um, this is actually just a snapshot of what is in our actual budget document.

It's page 240 of your um your packet, and page 241, you'll see the beginning and ending fund balances that I'm talking about.

So we're not in solvent.

This this we have money to do this.

Um, I just wanted to point that out on the record.

Sherry, is this one a required state form?

Yes, it is.

And it's really sad they don't put beginning and ending fund balance on it, so it doesn't look like you're negative.

They do it's just on two pages and it's I mean, this is already small, so it's there.

I was trying to make it legible, and it is their form, yes.

Okay, thank you.

So now I want to focus in on the general fund because this is all of our operation funds.

Um I already talked about uh most of the revenues of this.

Um there is an increase in revenues of 3.4% projected for 2027.

Um that's property taxes of 5.5%, and then a 2% increase in in C tax.

Those haven't changed since um since the assumptions.

Um right now we're sitting at about a 2.3% increase for 26 in the C tax.

Um, so that uh I left it zero for 26, so that we have a little little cushion there to get us through the rest of the year.

Um, unfortunately, with the with the war going on, we we just there's a lot of uncertainty right now.

So um, so I'm just being conservative, which typically puts us in a good place.

Um charges for services has a 4.6% increase.

That's mostly the cost allocation plan.

This next slide, I always present this.

It's just 10 years of our revenues, and you can see they're very consistent.

The only one in the naked eye that I could really see a difference in was the little blue one at the top.

And that's interest earnings and mostly mostly interest earnings and wildland reimbursements, which again it depends on what the market's doing and how many fires are going on in the area.

So that does fluctuate, but the rest of them you can see are very consistent.

This is my favorite slide.

I really like to show this.

This is our most volatile source of revenue, the consolidated taxes.

And this goes back 20 years, so prior to the Great Recession.

And I mean, historically, every 10 years you have a correction in the markets.

So this is terrifying for most accountants because we haven't had a correction.

However, I think the plateaus you're seeing in 22 and 23, where it doesn't really increase, and then 25 and 26, what looks like is going to be another plateau year.

That might be the cooling down.

I think I reported to you last year that because of the industrial park out in Story County.

We were projected, Northern Nevada was projected to not really have a downturn, but more of a plateau.

And I think we might be seeing that here.

Hopefully, and we'll start increasing again.

And then the next fund is we'll go into expenditures if there's no questions on the revenues.

Here general government, or I'm sorry, public safety is always number one.

There are 46.2% of all general fund expenditures.

This includes fire, sheriff, juvenile detention and probation, and alternative sentencing.

It includes IT, human resources, city manager's office, assessors, the boards has a department in there, the treasurer, district attorney, public defender, planning, facilities, clerk recorder.

There's a lot of little departments in there that really operate the city.

And then total expenditures are showing a slight increase of 2.8% for 2027.

This next slide shows again 10 years with expenses.

And again, you can see we're very consistent from year to year on how we spend our money.

The only difference here would be the little red piece at the top, which is not there for 26 and 27.

That's our community support.

And that was basically the CSSG grant, which is moved to the indigent defense or indigent support fund.

Supplemental indigent fund.

Oh my god, I'm sorry.

So that money is still budgeted, it is still available.

We're moving forward with the program now.

It's just not in the general fund.

So that's why the little red piece is gone at the top.

Okay, this pie chart is very important.

The total number of salary and benefits that we have in the tentative budget is 78.2%.

Last year it was 78.9, so it is slightly down.

If all the supplementals are improved as is, and we'll talk about that in a minute, but um I should I think we'll be at about 77.6%, so it'll go down a little more.

Um there are some services and supply software maintenance, that kind of thing that we're increasing, we're recommending in our supplementals, so it it shifts it just a tad further down.

Um the next slide is about uh our general fund employees.

And um, you know, I was happy to report for years because I think it was 21 years or something that we went um forward and we were under what we had in before the Great Recession in 2026, um, or 18 years.

Uh unfortunately we have exceeded that number now, but we have taken on the public defender's office, we have a new fire station, and interestingly enough, two of our grant employees or two employees were funded by grants back in 2006.

We have over 60 now that are funded by grants, so that's a big part of the increase as well.

Um this does not include the tentative.

You can see fiscal year 26 and 27 are equal.

So we have not included any supplemental employees in this chart.

This next chart shows the uh revenues and expenses.

Um just revenues are green, um, expenses are red.

Uh, there's always a gap, and there always should be a gap so that we can pay for our capital.

Uh we also need to keep that rainy day fund balance intact.

Um, and then there's you can see there's a little higher in 2021, and that was the CARES Act.

So the CARES Act Um gave us some extra revenue and really reduced expenses, so that was a little bigger gap year there.

This next slide is pretty much just a written explanation of what I just talked about.

Just for those that don't like graphs.

And this is a really condensed version of what our general fund looks like.

Um you can see beginning fund balance there in 2025, that's audited, that was 30 million dollars.

Ending fund balance was 28.

Um, so that's our beginning in 26.

Um, and then we've got the revenues and expenses contingency for 2027, that 1.199 number.

That includes $500,000 for future unknown expenses.

It includes the courtroom staff of $385.621.

That's for half a year because January 1st is when that will take effect.

Uh, and then it includes half of the software maintenance for the new CAD system, and then the supplemental request of 1.7%.

Um now the new courtroom staff and the CAD are included on the supplementals when we get to that section, just so you're aware.

Don't say you only said we had 1.7 earlier.

True, but we also have courthouse court staff in the and the CAT as well.

Um, and then you can see the capital funding there.

We'll talk about this more on the next slide, but you can see in 25 we were able to fund 15 million in capital, 26, you know, 8.9 million, now only 7 million.

Um, so that does concern me.

The next slide is our five-year analysis.

So um I do this every year just to make sure we can afford everything that we're doing.

And um we did I did break it out here for you so you can see the district court um judges and the CAD system over the next five years, and then um the supplemental requests that we're recommending today and the $500,000 contingency.

Um, you'll note that we do in 2030 get down to 8.3%, which is the bottom of our fiscal policies.

Um, I will point out that this whole projection that I do does not include any termination savings.

So as employees leave and new employees come on, typically there's some savings involved with that.

Um, so this this estimates that every single employee will be here over the course of the next five years and get their merits and colas.

And so typically there will be some savings and it will look a little better than what I'm presenting today, as long as the revenues come in how I've projected them.

Sure, if I'm not mistaken, um the if we go back four or five years and look at this same it it is equally as pessimistic in the out years it seems a little more.

For the last couple years, yes.

Yes, for the last couple years, it has not been great.

Um, for a while we were able to save money and actually increase the rainy day fund.

Yeah, but I'm I'm talking about the out years is a projection, and you know, we don't have to be worse, but that's the bottom of the where it can be, but right, and you will see that I did put in capital funding there too, the CIP funding.

So there is you know seven million dollars of CIP funding almost all the way across the board.

So I mean, that's positive.

Yeah, Sherry, can you uh explain though?

Um this is a late material document.

So that what you have up there is not what is in um the packet that the that is true.

Saw what what changed um there was just uh an older projection that I had accidentally popped in there instead of the current final projection.

So that was my error.

Um there are many iterations of this as we work through moving money around and doing recommendations to the board, and and it was just an earlier version.

So change one number somewhere, and it might impact 12 worksheets.

Right.

Like 11 fifths final, right?

Yes, so this is the final, but just for the public to be sure everyone recognizes there's late material, yes, late material.

So before we move off the general fund, um, can we go back to that spreadsheet on page 240 that says summary of all funds?

Oh yeah.

Um would you look at this book, the spiral bound book that's been uh provided to us on page 2.4?

It appears that we're looking at the same uh general fund.

Hold on.

2.4, it's right in the front.

Just a few pages.

Um it appears to be the same uh basic list, but the numbers are different.

Um and just to pick on one, uh property taxes uh you have for budget year 27 is 44 million uh 900, but on this book in page 2.4, you have it at uh 40 million four hundred and twenty-five.

What's the difference?

Well, why are these different okay?

So wait a minute.

Property taxes in my book, I'm seeing 44 and 938.

That's what's presented up there, but you guys one's general fund that you just talked about.

This one's all funds.

Yeah.

So property taxes and other funds too.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yes.

That's the one.

I know they look the same, but you gotta read this little detail.

Yeah, because this is this is in the general fund section of the presentation.

So it's okay.

Well that was all funds.

The first two slides in this are all funds.

And then I start moving into general fund.

So that's yeah, why why would property taxes be any different from one list to the other?

Different all funds.

There's property tax and things besides the general fund.

Yeah, the senior center gets the senior taxes the capital capital projects fund gets property taxes.

So yeah.

Thank you.

No problem.

That's hard.

No problem, absolutely.

You you've been doing this for how long?

Yeah, a few years.

I've been doing it for six.

Yeah, fair enough.

No worries.

Let's hope there's still hope.

I'm pretty certain.

So I don't usually show this slide, but I wanted to show you just to show that capital breakout because I think it's important.

Um, the board in the past has asked us to set aside for the landfill fund.

Umfill used to have its own um enterprise fund, and back before the great recession, it was it was moved into the general fund.

And so they've got a bunch of equipment stuff they have to fund.

And so we made a deal with them that um we would do um revenue and expenses of the landfill and then keep one million seven hundred and fifty thousand in the general fund, and the rest of it could be transferred to capital to fund just landfill capital.

And so that is keeping with that, what we were told in that plan.

Um, and then again, one percent of general fund expenditures um for fleet replacement were asked to set aside, so that's for that.

Um, five cents of the property taxes.

Um, that was 2018.

We made that decision.

Yes, Lori was definitely involved in that decision to set aside and to create the extraordinary maintenance fund, um, which has done it's been wonderful.

It's allowed us to um you know fix some some great uh equipment in the city as well as the juvenile facility.

So um, so that's that's what we're setting aside there, and then whatever falls out to give us that ending fund balance is what we use for capital.

I I really want to discuss this slide for for a moment because Lisa and I serve on the RTC board, and one of the members was quite concerned that you know, we're just not doing enough for roads, and it almost that it was shameful that we don't consider that the capital asset and give it, you know, what are we doing to solve it?

And I really like this slide because I think it depicts the priorities that we have done concerning capital and why there isn't money, we're gonna move from the general fund to the RTC for roads, and here's the discussion.

I think as a board, we should always have is our have any of our priorities changed?

Is there any tweaks we need to make to any of our policies?

So when you look at the transfer to the landfill, that's a huge chunk.

Um, is that something we should look at uh to say, okay, instead of a million seven fifty that we have for the general fund, should we cap that at a flat four million so that this excess could then go into the second to last column, right?

If I change that to a fixed four million instead of the leftovers, would that give us money to help the roads or other capital needs?

Um, instead of a fixed one percent for fleet replacement, should we consider that a flat million?

I mean, they're just discussion points that I think every so often we should review our policies, just kind of like we do in the utilities where we have those five goals of what should we be doing the same thing and occasionally looking at these.

And so I just bring it up to I wanted the public to understand for me to move more into that second to last column for capital for potential roads.

I have to impact one of those other fields.

And is there one of those columns that any of us feel should be lowered or changed or right?

I mean, so that's that's really part of your discussions is where are our priorities?

And I know in the landfill that one we're saving right for expansion to be able to make sure the landfill will be available in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.

And so should we stay on this policy or look in the future year to bring it back up and discuss it again?

Same thing in the um fleet.

We years ago decided we'd just do one percent so that we could have a consistent fleet.

And so for me, having those policies hopefully stops me from having more capital assets deteriorate like the roads, right?

That we did plan and put policies in place to try and make sure those issues don't fail, you know, that we're doing the right thing.

But I just bring that up because I think it's important when you get here and say, oh my goodness, we had 686,252 for non-landfill, non-fleet.

That's can I put another range in the in the discussion?

Yeah.

Um, there is 26 million dollars in deferred maintenance out there for just for our facilities.

And so that's what that remaining for capital would be facilities, equipment, not including fleet, all the other capital.

I consider a road a capital.

I mean, I understand that everything competes.

Everything competes, and we set which one has the higher priority at the moment in time.

But you're right, there is no other funding source to fix a roof or to replace carpeting or to do those things that we all have to do as even homeowners, right?

How long do you defer it until it's threadbare or things of that nature?

But I really think this is an important slide.

I think it explains could help you explain to the public when we had the gentleman like, why aren't you giving me money into the road fund?

Because I don't have it.

You know, it's just not, it's not there.

I barely can do exactly what you're saying.

I only have enough money to hit the asset management that we work so hard on to tell us the condition of all of our buildings.

I think uh supervisor white and I, I don't know, those were it's a major push for us to be able to say, how do I spend my money wisely?

What's ready to break?

What is at its the end of its useful life, and how do we not have everything as an emergency because it costs more money to fix things that break that are an emergency versus standard maintenance that you should be doing?

So I I just bring this up that for the public and for us to always be looking at our policies and saying, are we still on track?

Are we still right?

Uh things like that.

So let's just comment.

Do you have one, Stacey, or you're just playing with your machine?

Okay.

No, I mean, uh the the point you make uh obviously is valid.

And if you if you don't have the revenue, then it then it is vital that you analyze where you need to spend what revenue you have.

So you I mean, you can't ignore the roads, but you also can't ignore the other millions of dollars worth of assets that our taxpayers have paid for that need funding also.

So it when there's a lack of funding, what becomes important, probably more important is prioritizing the greatest need.

I mean, I think that that's kind of what we're talking about.

And it goes back into what you're saying, making adjustments perhaps to the fleet, not necessarily on the amount of money, but on priority setting where you replace a vehicle, a vehicle last longer.

And yes, there are down the road implications to that.

But if you have a lack of money, you have to make a decision somewhere.

No, that it's the same thing you said just on the other side of that major.

Right.

I would just like to build a little bit on the dilemma conversation.

You know, the assets like the building and and all of that, our staff need a place to work to be able to provide the services.

And I guess that's one of the difficulties when roads become a part of the conversation.

Um and so this is where again, my hope is the community as a whole will really see the struggle that we're facing in terms of funding and how there really's a need for more revenue sources, i.e.

a ballot measure for roads, if this is something that our community uh I I know the community prioritizes it.

I know we prioritize, however, you cannot spend what we don't have.

And so it's how do we figure out a way forward?

And um and buildings are our staff, we need a place for staff to work, and we need those be able to provide the services, all of them.

Well, and I think roads are very visible to the entire community, so they can see that as a priority, and rightfully so.

I think what they can't see is the 26 or 28 million in building needs like a leaky roof, right?

Or things like that, because that's not visible to them.

So it's more difficult for us as our job is we see it all.

We see both sides of everything.

So we're trying to make um an effort to protect all of the assets of the community.

And I think that when we did the transfer of the VNT to the new fund to take that tax to help the roads, that's that to me is like if I were to almost add that into my capital funding, right?

To say that is a capital funding that we fixed for roads because we found a funding source we could dedicate.

I wish we could do more, but I think it's imperative.

And if you don't have a landfill where you have a place to dispose of your, I think you called it sanitation.

So we'll go with that.

Um yeah.

I think we're doing the due diligence and the requirement of the job.

Is I have to ensure there's a landfill for this community because we certainly don't want to be under any federal decrees that tell us, you know, that we're not properly caring for the disposals.

And so the same thing when I look at the fleet, I look at that and say, well, what good does it do to have any employees if they don't have a fire engine to respond to the fire?

How how do we we have to do that too, right?

So I I just applaud us as a board for always looking and trying to find priorities.

And acknowledging the maintenance needs because it is less expensive to maintain the than to let it break.

So I just bring it up as maybe as a future um board item or something, we potentially look at our financial policies.

We probably haven't done that in a while where we set the ending fund balance because that's the other one, right?

When you look to the last column, and people go, well, why don't you just lower that?

You know, why don't you go ahead and go down to five percent and put some money into use?

Well, for me, that's a one-time answer anyway, because once you spend that down, but again, if there's any emergency at all, because I I can't even make the payroll.

When you do that, that's when you start visiting the uh dollar loan center.

That's actually uh it's a decent uh analogy that he's making.

And so I think we're very responsible there too.

But I do understand why the public sees a number and says, Well, put that to the roads.

It's like but that'd be me doing like you said.

Well, then you don't have you don't save one penny from your paycheck, and the tire goes flat.

What do you do at home?

You do just what Maurice says, right?

So I but I do think we should occasionally visit every so many years, we should look at the policy and see that we're on target.

Yeah, so definitely bring it back.

Okay, when we um when we went into the last great recession, because I did mention and show that big slide, we had 25% ending fund balance.

Yeah.

So that's the only reason.

And that's how we made it through fairly unscathed.

That's why we survived.

Yes.

Yes, only because of that.

Exactly.

So okay.

Um dollar loan center.

So I have just a few more funds to go through.

Um, the special revenue funds, that's again restricted money.

It has to be spent for a specific purpose, NRS, grant restricted.

There's always some kind of restricted um funding source, like we talked about a lot for roads.

There's a lot of um gas taxes for a couple of these funds that is recorded as a special revenue, so that every single tax dollar goes to roads.

Uh gas tax dollar.

Um, the only one I'm talking about here today is the special or the quality of life fund.

Just because I don't show this breakout ever just once a year.

So it shows the 20% park maintenance, a 40% capital, and then the open space.

Um we did uh because this is based on C tax in 2027.

Um we did increase the um the sales taxes by 2%, just like we did with the general fund.

Um there's a little bit of undesignated 316 39.

Um the capital is incorporated into this already at capital and one-time requests, however, the supplementals are not.

So if the supplementals are approved today, we'll just bring forward more undesignated from 26 to be able to pay for those.

Um there is they do have undesignated in 26.

Um, and then I usually at this meeting do present RTC and transit, but RTC and transit um already look at these um through the through the regional transportation committee.

Uh so they did recommend approval of the budgets, and um I did decide not to present them today.

They are in your material in the in the big binder as the same information that we present typically to RTC.

So if you want to present me to present them today, I do have them, but uh I was not planning on it.

Can you tell me again how much is in the FY26 undesignated?

Yes, so for maintenance, there's 14 about 14,000 for capital, there's 470,000, and for open space, there's about 73,000.

If we grant the supplementals, how much of the undesignated would be reduced?

What would we be?

It's not much.

They did not ask for much in their supplementals.

I think it was only 10,000 in maintenance and 80,000 for a plan.

That was in capital.

That was already included as part of capital.

So that's already in the services and supplies up here.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Uh the enterprise funds, I'd like to talk about just a little bit.

We did go to the utility finance oversight committee and we presented to them all the financial policies were met with UFOC.

And again, just to reduce the amount of talking I was doing today, I'm not presenting them again.

That is all in your in your information, but we're happy we I did bring it, so we can't present it today if anybody's interested in looking at those funds.

Um, and these are our business type funds, right?

So we could sell them to like a Tumwa or another entity to run our water system if we wanted to.

Um, but we operate our own water utilities, ambulance, building permits, and cemetery.

Um, so the only fund I wanted to talk about was the ambulance fund.

And this is just because the state Nevada Medicaid really does supplement this fund.

Um, this year, 26 we got about 1.6 million, and next year we're budgeted, and we have checked with the fire.

Um, it looks like about 1.7 million we'll be getting.

So um, so that is what is helping this fund remain stable.

And um, you can see there is capital outlay, a little bit for an ambulance in 2027, and the cash balance um there gives them a little bit of wiggle room.

So in this one, we're actually projecting that we'll spend 12,000 more than we bring in for the year.

So we're reducing cash balance.

It's only 12,000.

Yes.

Yes.

And that includes depreciation on their equipment too, which isn't really cash.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So still have to account for it.

But yes.

Yes.

Yes, but that's that's why the cash is going up.

That's why the cash is going up in 27 because depreciation doesn't hit it.

Right.

Okay.

Um, so then the next internal service funds.

I do like to bring up a few of these just so you guys are aware of what's going on.

These are departments that help only the city um employees.

So um group medical just for city employees, workers' comp for our city employees, and then our fleet and radios.

And so if I can figure out how to turn the page here.

Um the first one I want to talk about was workers' compensation fund.

This fund I've reported has really been struggling for a few years.

We paid out some huge um claims.

It used to be around half a million dollars in claims back in um 2018, 2019, but the last couple years have been a million, 1.5.

They've been much larger.

Um I'm happy to report that the claims have been coming in a lot less.

We're about half the number of claims this year that we had submitted last year.

So I am hoping that this will go down.

I did only increase the revenue in this by 10%.

Um, I think last year we had to increase it 25%.

So I'm hoping this is slowing down a little bit, and uh we'll get back to a normal claims um, you know, six, seven hundred thousand dollar number.

Um and Sherry, what what policy are we doing to have for cash reserves?

Is it a one year claims that we want?

What's our what we've always done is is had about three million in this fund, and that's um one police fire incident over two million dollars because our excess loss for police fire is two million dollars, and then regular employees is 750,000.

So again, one big claim on each is about two 2.7 million dollars.

So I try to keep that reserve around $3 million.

Perfect.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Uh next one is the insurance fund.

Again, just want to give you guys a heads up where that's sitting.

Um, we pay a lot in claims, so or in premiums, so I want to make sure you're aware.

Um claims again in 2022, 23 used to be about 200,000, and then 24 was um almost 600,000.

Um, I I'm happy to report though that claims this year are only at 74,191 so far this year, which is great.

So we're having a really good thing.

There must be some hidden stuff coming our way.

I hope that is I hope not.

Me too.

But the services and supplies there does include half a million dollars in 26 and 27 budgeted for claims.

So if those don't come in as high, then the cash balance at the bottom will be even higher.

Um, so I like to keep about a $1 million reserve in here.

Our um our insurance has a $100,000 deductible, so that allows 10 big claims.

Big claims, big, big claims.

Um that is our reserve right now being almost two million is kind of high.

So I might reduce those um those premiums citywide if you know we don't to get it down a little bit next year if I need to.

And then so next steps, that's really all I was gonna report on the tentative budget.

Um, the supplemental requests and capital will go over next.

Um, those are the additions to the tentative budget, which um will be put in the final budget and brought to you May 22nd, uh, whatever's approved today.

Um, the capital plan we do present a five-year capital plan that is required by the state.

So um that is in the next item.

We'll talk about that in a minute.

And then the actual final adopted budget is due to the department of taxation and um county clerk on Jill June 1st.

That's our timeline every year.

Okay, let's let's start then in the supplementals.

Um and to help not keep a room full of uh, yes, I'll say it our top paid uh individuals, keeping them on baited breath here.

Um does any of you have a particular department or group that you want to discuss so that we get that so those that know they can leave can leave, but the rest will stay.

So do you have any particular department you want to hear from?

Curtis?

I want to talk about uh civil and their house position.

Okay, and civil.

Anybody else have alternative sentencing alternative sentencing animal services, employee requests for the library.

Um let me make a a little disclosure here so I can be I can matter in a group.

Oh darn it.

Uh I'll apologize for these questions.

Uh I've been preoccupied with some other stuff, and I really didn't get into this until uh yesterday, actually, and as some of you can attest the emails that went out at 10 o'clock and later.

Um I apologize for not giving you a heads up.

These aren't gotcha questions, they're just my own curiosity.

Okay.

And I just want to add real quick, um, as we walk through these on the left is an item number, so that'll help everybody know what we're all talking about.

So as we go through, right?

That was our fix from last time.

So we weren't jumping around trying to find them.

That really helps being able to have a line number.

Yeah.

Okay.

Does there anything else somebody wants me to pull for discussion?

No.

That covers what I had.

That covers everybody.

Okay.

Um great.

Then the rest of you, if you were only waiting on that, you know there aren't questions for you.

So we will then start with.

I heard first we want to talk about uh civil.

So Curtis, what line number are you wanting to address?

Uh I believe it's 72, perhaps.

72.

Perhaps position.

Uh Sheriff, could you pop up there for a second?

I I think we had talked about a part-time or quarter time position for civil due to the public records request and the increase in workload a few meetings ago.

I assume that's the position that we were talking about.

86.

What's that?

We're trying to get to exactly what you're talking about.

The part-time records part-time records.

The records 86 that you were talking about, I think.

Part-time um records um this came before the board, what about a month ago?

Uh we discussed it, the ability to um pay for a records technician, if you will, uh part-time, not including uh benefits.

Uh so basically it's an hourly rate position to help fulfill the records requirements that we are getting flooded with.

Yeah, I you know, we had a pretty good discussion about that at that meeting, and it and uh I know that I feel it's a very important position, something that we need to cover, and I would like to see that funded.

Thank you.

I I know the workload is tremendous in that operation, uh having experienced uh dealing with them on some other stuff, and you know, just in general in an overview and discussion with some of the staff and others, it's it's quite a burden.

So I and I get it, and that's that's why we had that discussion.

But is that one there's a revenue offset?

Uh uh a methodology that doesn't make me reduce the general funds.

That's what we were just talking about.

So we were just talking about the sheriff do that.

Yeah, so we so a couple meetings ago we brought that fee schedule, right?

And I don't believe it was adopted.

So I think we'll bring it back and see, because I think that would help fund some of this position.

Try that again.

So you're saying you're gonna watch what revenue is coming into that account, and if it's justified, you'll bring this back.

So the fee schedule coming in.

Watch it.

But was that adopted?

Didn't we decide he could just implement it if you wanted to?

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

I'm sorry.

My memory's not great.

Thank you.

Apparently, and so you'll watch the revenue and see that oh, now it covers it, and then you'll bring it in.

Yes.

So you'll show the revenue in yes, in a we'll put it in a separate account.

Okay.

Yes.

No problem.

Okay.

All right.

Does that answer that one for everybody?

Yeah.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Um the next one.

Uh Supervisor White, what line number did you have for alternative sentencing?

Uh page 736, line 129.

Uh, temporary staffing.

1,000 dollars.

Yeah, temporary staffing uh for hourly position hourly positions that run out of hours.

How does this work?

What talk me through that whole scenario that you're looking at?

Good morning.

Again, I'm sorry I didn't send you this ahead of time.

That's okay.

Um so right now, because of the workload, we are able to include some part-time uh positions to help offset the volume that we deal with on a day-to-day basis.

And generally what happens is we do work them part-time, but they typically run out of hours.

And so, in an effort to try to keep um the support system that we have in place, we try to ask for additional funds and temporary staffing so that we can maintain the service levels that we currently have.

So, would it be better to convert some of your part-time people to a full-time position?

That is the goal.

Um we we do try to do that.

Um, but we understand that there's a lot of departments also asking for positions, so we try to balance out our asks and needs, understanding that there's only so much money to go around.

Okay.

Might be better, but be more expensive.

Yeah.

Well, and and can I ask, don't you have a lot of um employees that are retirees and want to keep their PERS pension so they can come in and do some part-time work for you under some of these contracts and yet maintain, but we can utilize their expertise in certain areas.

Yes, so they wouldn't necessarily take a position either, because they want to keep their pensions, so it gives you a flexibility.

You're just saying you need another 10,000 to keep you keep you going.

That's correct.

In this okay.

Is that it?

Okay.

I believe this is one line item.

We've augmented the last couple of years with the overtime.

So it's something that's needed.

Right.

Um, then your next question.

Um on page 739.

Uh, there's no line item number there.

Uh that's talking about changes in staffing.

Um, but I don't see the library listed here as uh a reduction.

And you'll find that on page 737 at line 167 that they're having a uh what is that a uh hourly seasonal for building maintenance worker um is being reduced.

So why is that not on this list of staff changes?

So they're getting a full-time um building maintenance workers, what they're asking for, and they're offsetting that with part-time people that they have now.

So I didn't put the part-time any of the reductions in.

Um the emergency manager is getting like an $80,000 grant to help cover some of his the deputy emergency manager.

So I I this is just strictly new employees that are being asked for, new FTEs at the bottom.

Okay, and then the breakout on the back pages kind of something new I did just to show that um 10 of these new employees are related to the courts or the public defender's office, which we have to do.

That's all the questions I have uh for staff.

I do have some other questions we can get to a little bit later in regards to some management questions, but that's all I have for staff.

Okay.

Is there anybody else have something on the supplemental it's a good one?

Yeah, just I 173, uh, which is the animal services increase.

Um I just I you know, I'm and I know we budgeted that for half the year because of the request was for 300,000, they budgeted for half the year.

Um and and I'm comfortable putting it in the budget, but uh we need to refine the contract.

I'm not comfortable unless we refine the contract and define deliverables.

Um I I also wouldn't mind having a quick analysis as to whether it's still the best way to go contractually versus in-house.

I think that's important for us and should be something we could analyze in-house.

Absolutely.

In terms of we did discuss bringing a contract back.

This was kind of a placeholder if it was agreed to a contract would come.

And they'll put on here at the next meeting.

I've already got them scheduled.

Okay, but that makes sense, and I'm happy to do an analysis of what it would cost their city to run it, their report, and then we can discuss anything you'd like if you want to make amendments to the contract.

So we can do that at the next slide.

So we can do that at the next one question there.

Because you'll have to amend it.

Um do we have any idea of how many animals they deal with that are from outside of Carson City?

Yes.

Well, I don't know why we never see it.

I'm really know what's going on here.

Uh you will see your stuff at the next meeting when they bring their report.

I did let them know we were doing this today, but I apparently they're not able to be here.

Well, if they don't have enough interest to be here to talk for themselves, I don't fund it.

Not even as a placeholder.

So what how how do we I mean, I I guess what I'm concerned about is the meeting that we have next time where you've agendized it.

Um we don't have to make a decision that day because I don't know that you don't.

Okay.

You don't, but if you want to if your answer is yes, you're willing to amend the contract.

What are some of the points or things based on the report that you feel are necessary?

What are things you want to see or changes you might like so that staff knows then what to work on to amend?

And then the humane society can tell us whether or not they can even do the things that you might be interested in.

They might tell us.

Well, they can or can't do it.

I think that in fairness, Lisa and I have been serving on that committee since since it started.

And we I'll just say for me that we get a lot more service than what we had when we provided animal services.

And if you remember, we just swept our accounts and gave it to them as a contract.

We said, okay, 700 and I don't know.

Oh, I'll be like everyone else today.

Don't quote me, but 735-ish or something like that.

Remember, we just took our dollars and directly gave it to them, but they do things we never did.

Veterinary services, things that we never did any of that kind of stuff.

So I think you're right that it's it's ripe and it's time to look at the contract and say, are you performing the services that we want?

And what are those services that we want?

So can we have an analysis of what we're required to provide?

I mean, I think that's uh you know, how do I say what do I want from you if I don't even know what legally we're obligated to provide?

I mean, I think that has to be part of the discussion.

And I think um I I think we also have to just take a breath and look at whether or not contracting is the way to go.

Absolutely.

So I I don't know that all of that is going to be ready by next meeting, but um, but maybe it will be.

Maybe you'll pull a rabbit out of your head.

Maybe I'll do what I can.

Okay.

Again, it's it's right for us to I don't know.

I think every five years or so, you should be looking at everything that you contract.

So I think you're on the right mission here to always be saying, are we spending the money appropriately?

Is it the right way to go?

Um, I I think I know where we're gonna land, but uh a lot more expensive to do it ourselves.

But I'm well see, it's kind of like ambulance service, right?

I get a ton, why don't we look at a REMSA or what because we've done the service versus dollars, etc., but we still should look at everything every so many years.

Yeah, yeah, keeping in mind what can be done in-house, what can't be done in-house, what level of service are we comfortable with?

Well, and what are we what are our taxpayers on the obligated to pay?

I mean, I think that's a consequence of not providing certain services.

All of that, obviously, all of that.

Catch dogs and cats, or do we fix roads?

Well, we have to do some of it just as he's suggests legally.

I mean, what do we legally have to do?

Right.

You know, going back as a little piece of interesting trivia back into the early mid-80s, mid-80s.

The animal control department was about this close to being in the fire department.

Yeah.

I know, right?

Very weird place for it.

Is it about that close?

That goes back to the they save cats and trees.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

They have to have that right ladder sizes.

I'm gonna say, well, you don't need a ladder, you just need a hose.

I'll come right out.

Okay, I'm not we're going somewhere else.

No.

Can we get back on the agenda item before Stacy gets himself in trouble?

I've never blasted a cat out of a tree with water.

Never swear an oath to that.

Never.

I haven't.

I do, I do.

Do you want to say it?

Okay.

Is there anything else on the supplementals that we want to discuss?

Nothing else on supplementals.

That we're just gonna keep on going.

Is there any public comment on the supplementals or base what I call base budget, but whatever.

Is there any public comment on any of that?

Come on up.

On over Mr.

French.

Danny French, Carson City, Nevada.

I I picked up on the library funding, and I would like to say that I am concerned about the library for other reasons, but hopefully I'll be able to talk to people about that.

And the next thing is as far as uh the cemetery and such, um well, I'd like to see a little bit more involvement with some of the plants that are in there, but as far as the budget, it sounds pretty good, and I appreciate your effort in it.

It's very long.

Um, and then as I broke it down, I went to the parks and I was looking at park things and I had items.

I would have liked to talk about that, but uh the last meeting was for open space, so I didn't bring it up, but thank you very much.

Thank you.

Sir, any other public comment on the uh tentative or the supplementals.

Okay, I'll bring it back up here.

So unless my memory's not right, um potentially we would consider or do you you want to um add fee revenue at the sheriff's office to be able to fund the part-time records position I got out of that?

Is that we're all in agreement?

Bring in the revenue, you can have the part time.

So that's an analysis that you'll bring back for the final that says yes, the or you'll come back and say, Oh, he's not that close.

Okay, I do have what else?

Oh, sorry, you had some others.

I apologize.

Okay.

Um, I've been working with Kenny uh taking a tour of his uh family services unit.

Um I know we talked about in our last meeting that we should get Kenny to uh apply for CSS G grants.

Um I I would I want to plant this kernel, and hopefully uh as this budget moves along, we can find some money, permanent money, uh, to fund that group because um what we're looking at over there is understanding that need um not only break the the the cycle, but to give people the tools to stay out of that cycle, and you know, it looks like um a thousand two hundred and one individuals uh were incarcerated and are eligible for the family uh services uh that that Kenny's offers, but um they're only able to get those services to 535 people when you look at the recidivism right amongst the folks that get into that program.

Um it is astounding that 427 of those folks actually completed the program and only 13 returned to jail.

I think that's um that that tells us we we need to fund this a little better than it is.

Um, again, late to the party, but I am here.

Um we're working on getting some numbers together, what that might look like to try to bolster this program.

So what's the number?

What uh oh it's it's not in nowhere.

There wasn't a request.

He's suggested it.

I'm bringing up uh a suggestion that we need to start considering uh permanent funding uh from one of these probably undesignated items uh to stand up a sh a stronger presence in the family services unit there at the jail.

Mr.

White, on on our supervisor white on item 75.

They did get a grant for family services.

So there's there's a little bit of match there.

So hopefully that'll get them going for the first couple years, and then we'll be able to find the funds later.

This is a pilot program.

I I think to me the results are clear enough.

It's it's time to be thinking about no longer being a pilot program and make this a real thing.

I just wanted to bring that up and not asking for identifying any dollars today, but maybe Mike can buy a few less tires and we'll we'll uh keep some people out of jail.

Did you did you have you said you had a couple of management just discussions?

Is that it?

Yeah, is that appropriate for now then?

Okay.

Yeah, absolutely.

Um I want to look at page 10,000 and 50 or 1054.

It's like what this page it shows.

1054.

It's not on this agenda item.

Is that on the next one in capital?

Supplemental thousand and fifty-four?

Oh, I'm sorry.

It's on capital.

Hold your questions.

Okay.

Sorry.

That's all right.

Is that it then for for now?

And you'll pick it up on the next one.

Okay, I'll be quiet now.

Okay.

So we're ready, unless I'm mistaken, right?

For a motion and then a potential if the revenue is sufficient to bring in the uh part-time service clerk position for the sheriff's office.

Is that the only and the caveat on the animal control that that it's a placeholder now pending further approval well?

We would have to amend a contract.

So if we don't amend the contract and put it in, then they don't get it.

That's correct.

Okay.

Well, then I'm good putting it in as a then we just leave it.

We don't have to do anything.

Okay.

We need the money.

I can do a motion if if you go ahead.

You're done with public comment.

I did.

Uh I move to approve the proposed tentative budget and direct staff to implement the approved supplemental requests, uh, including the change of uh bringing back uh revenue analysis for the CCSO records clerk and a return to this board with the 2027 final budget adoption at a public hearing to be scheduled for May 21, 2026.

Oh, on discussion?

Yeah, on discussion.

Um you earlier said the date was May 22nd.

I believe it's May 21st.

It's our normal meeting.

Okay.

Okay.

Because you did say the 22nd.

I just wanted to make sure.

Oh, I thought it was on the slide is 21st.

It's on the slide is 21st.

But out of your mouths came 22nd.

My apologies.

So I just want to make sure there isn't.

My apologies.

Okay.

It's okay.

It is the 21st.

Okay.

It's a lot of numbers.

I don't expect a numbers person to do right on numbers, but thanks.

Yeah.

It's a date, not a number.

It's all okay.

It's all over.

But you're still relevant.

Still relevant.

Unlike unlike me.

Unlike me.

Okay.

Um, I have a motion in a second.

All those in favor, please say I.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

Thank you so much.

Does anyone need a break or should we pop right into 16B?

No, this is two minutes.

Okay, we're in just a slight little recess.

Here she goes.

You know, never miss an opportunity.

Bring the board of supervisors back to order.

We're on agenda item 16B.

Um this is discussion and possible action on our capital improvement plan.

Mrs.

Benaboo, are you ready?

I am.

Sorry.

Uh okay, so we got the capital slide up.

Um I again uh cut down this presentation a little bit.

So the Capital Projects Fund.

Um here.

This is it looks like we have all kinds of money, and we just talked about how we don't have money for capital.

But I want to point out the transfer from the land from the general fund is only 6 million 59,348 for 2027.

Um that's the 4.2 million dollars up there, that's the landfill, and then the capital projects transfer of 1.8 million, which includes the fleet and the little um the other amount.

Um and then so there's a little bit of interest earnings in the 210 fund that we're projecting.

We'll get 50, 50,000 in interest.

Um, the property taxes there, that's actually our regular property taxes minus the debt service in this fund.

And the debt service in this fund actually pays off in 2027.

So in 28, we would be able to fund again for a short-term loan for capital.

Um, just to put that in everybody's mind.

Um, but the property taxes with that adjustment, we should have another 658,000.

Um, we got the Nevada Attainable Housing Refund, so that's in there of the 457,000.

And then um, when we did our augmentations earlier this year, we set aside 2.9 million um to move to the um capital improvement fund, and I did do that.

There was also savings from 2025 um for interest earnings because there was quite a chunk of change in here uh for the EOC project.

So we did um have we do have quite a bit of um interest earnings in this fund and then some savings on projects.

So that equaled about 5.5 million dollars that we're able to move from 26 into 27 for capital, which gives us um 12.7 million dollars um in available funding.

And you can see at the bottom there I've set aside um 293,000 for break fix.

I like to keep that around 300,000.

So I'm just right in there where I like to be Sherry, yes.

This says 12.7 million back on page uh 250.

It talks about 7 million.

I don't see the 7 million show up in this graph.

Is that in here somewhere?

Oh, that's most likely um exclusive of the landfill.

Okay, yeah.

The one on page 240, you mean or 250?

Yes.

Okay.

Um that obviously should be 2025 audit up there, not 24.

So this is 2005, we're looking at no, no, no.

The slide up there that shows the additional revenue and savings from fiscal year 24.

It's actually the 25 audit that was that savings was rolled forward.

All right.

Um so on the next page, um, this is just a snapshot of all the fleet that um is being approved.

Um the analysis of why it's being approved is on um page 78 and 79 of the capital um the capital packet.

I think that's page 139 of your packet, um, is where that analysis is.

And I missed on this slide um the landfill compactor and the landfill loader.

Um, that's how long we've owned them, but the actual years of service are 11 and 14 for that, and those are correct on the on the backup on page 1139.

But I just missed it, fixing it here on this slide.

Um so the next page, that's all of our fleet that we're we're recommending approval on.

Um and then the capital attachment that's there, that will include all of the detailed information on the capital, uh, what was originally requested, and then there's also the 2027 column that is what's being recommended.

Um as I said before, this five-year capital plan is required by the state.

So this is your chance to adjust it if you want to.

This this will go in um at the end of June for the state.

Um, and on the very right hand column again, I've included item numbers.

So if you have questions for staff, um we're still all here if you um oh no, sorry, the right side is the facility condition assessment.

So the left is the that's where we document that it was part of the facility condition assessment, so you can tell what we're deferred maintenance we're trying to um reduce there.

Um on the left side of the screen is the um item number.

So if you have a question on that, you can let us know.

You you got out in front of me a little bit.

Can we go back to page uh a thousand and fifty-two?

The last end of the uh fleet purchase stuff, where the top two are Jack buses.

Yeah, that's it.

Are these are these the two buses that RTC voted uh to not recommend?

Was there no?

I don't think so.

We recommended approval for buses.

We did it's in our standard replacement that we do when they hit a littler one and then the bigger bus.

I thought the uh supplemental request that came in as late material RTC and one of those was the Jack buses.

Oh no, that was the so the supplemental that was not approved was the match, so they wanted more match from the general fund, and that was determined back in February when we that we already had when they were doing their supplemental requests, but as we work through the budget, we realized they didn't really need it.

Okay, yeah.

All right.

Um, so that's all I had for presentation.

If you want to go through the capital items, or you have any questions, we're happy to answer them.

Okay.

Does anybody have um I I'm gonna talk about item 18?

Uh well, all the stuff related to title updates for our codes.

Um does anybody else have stuff they want to talk about in the capital plan?

Oh, I'm sorry, I did have a few other things to say.

I thought so.

Okay.

I'm so sorry.

That's all right.

Yeah, um, we talked about um like the mayor said the Title 18 um for the community development.

That 200,000, um, we're not gonna move to the 210 fund if it's approved.

If it's approved, we'll just leave it in the general fund because the special council position that was just approved in the last item, that would he would be coordinating that bill.

So we would just leave it in the general fund.

Um, so that would reduce the transfer.

And then the other thing I wanted to mention is on the street and highway infrastructure fund towards the end of the capital list here.

Number one for item number 145.

Um, we have been talking about 3.1 million dollars for streets for quite some time, and um the way it was shaken out, it was looking like maybe it was only gonna be about 2.5 million.

However, we did find a project that had some savings that was unneeded, and so that has dropped to um undesignated in 26.

So for the final budget, I'm gonna push it forward so that we do have the 3.1 million, and it will be available in the final budget.

Okay, does anybody then have it?

Any other yeah, I do.

Okay, supervisor white.

What what line?

Uh number.

Well, it's doesn't have an item number, but it's um page 1054 under the city manager.

Um for the new city hall, it says there that uh the bonds uh will go out.

Uh 2028 for 18 uh million and 2029 for 18 million, but if you go to page 1072, um there at the top, well at the bottom of the top, if you're there where it says possible debt issuance, 36 million in 2028.

Um a couple of questions.

Are we doing two separate bonds 28 and 29?

Are we doing one bond?

And then just to be clear for the public, item number three there says the new city hall and parking garage.

Um the rest of the notes only mention the new city hall.

So clarification that the 36 million includes the parking garage, and is it one bond for 36 or two bonds for 18 each?

Um, so we're still looking at options right now.

So we're planning on um a lease purchase option, but it would include both.

Um, and the 36 million that is estimated here um does include both the city and the parking garage.

Okay.

Um, and so I did write city hall bond just to issue just to note that we will get funding for that.

We're not planning on funding that ourselves.

Um, but the 18 million is kind of the build period.

We would build probably over two years, not just one year.

So that's why it's split out is because that's the the expense that we're planning on spending.

Okay, if that makes sense.

Sorry to be confusing.

That's all that's all I have for this.

Supervisor Giomi, did you have a few questions?

Uh I just um yeah, um Title 18.

Um we just finish it.

I I'm sorry, that's just my comment.

Well, we shouldn't have done a master plan update because now we gotta do it again.

I get it, I get it.

The master plan my my point is if if 300,000 gets it done in the next fiscal year, let's do that and let's finish it.

If we can't, if we can't, if it's too much, then I guess I understand that, but if we think the total cost is 300,000, let's fund the dang thing and finish it in this coming fiscal year.

So I don't know who to ask that of.

I don't see hope here.

So Dan.

Heather Ferris for the record.

Um so yeah, I think that's that's the goal.

So with the adoption of the master plan last year, um, we then need to look at implementing the master plan.

So that would require establishing new zoning districts, um, changes to development standards, zoning map changes, um, and then some outstanding um review of state and federal law to ensure compliance with Title 18.

Um, and to ensure the Title 18 is in compliance with state and federal law.

And then you know, the consultants are up to speed on um current and best practices as well.

So the goal would be to um get everything adopted as quickly as possible.

I actually'm gonna say this differently.

Let me try this.

I see this as two different tracks, unless I'm misunderstanding this particular line item.

So you have you can have a track that says here are the new districts that were land use districts that we created in the master plan, and Dan and team, you need to now integrate those new changes into our Title 18.

You got to list all the new land use codes and where they fall.

Then you have the potential of an expert that would help you maybe go through and say, is there anything else that we should be doing as a best practice?

Those are two separate issues in my book, two separate types of experts.

So you have an expert that drafts legislation or our code separate than someone that would go through and I don't know, say, oh, your setbacks ought to be 10 feet instead of eight feet.

I'll just use that as an example.

But right, that's two different experts.

And so now I'm I'm I'm concerned on what you're trying to do.

I understand what you're saying.

So I think all of the goal would be to um bring it into compliance.

While we're doing that, there's state and federal law that we need, most notably the sign code that needs to be um brought up to date with federal law, um, and any changes to state law that we need to um ensure that our code is in compliance with.

Um and then while we're at it, we can look at those other um best practices.

Um, and as far as drafting the ordinance, I would assume that um Dan you would be working on you know what the ordinance actually looks like and um if there needs to be tweaks to specific language for um legal defensibility.

So I guess my uh I'm still concerned um that we're not hitting the mark that we think we're hitting potentially, and and kind of with what Stacy was saying.

So the first issue we have is we already just did a Title Eight, not just anymore, I guess it was two or three years ago.

Feels like just yeah, it feels like just but I thought we already went through Title 18 and the development standards to look for best practices and changes and had tons of planning commission meetings and blah blah blah blah blah.

And so I thought this really was to now articulate the changes from the master plan that occurred.

That is and that would be Dan Yu's team that would pick that up and say, okay, the master plan now has land use code business, something or other we named it.

Right.

And so we got to get that in the table versus how do we want to change the sign, or I'm assuming your team could look at a federal law for compliance and say, hey, our sign ordinance is out of compliance, and we have to rewrite that, but you could do that, not that I need another.

I guess what I'm after is do I need two different specialists?

That's what I'm trying to get to.

You're up here, like I don't know.

Um yeah, that's kind of a tough question.

Um I'll try to weigh in as best as I can.

I I'm not really familiar with the scope of the consulting services that you know Heather and Hope are talking about.

I haven't really had any in-depth discussion in relation to what that scope looks like.

Um so I'm kind of hearing about this for the first time on the record.

Now, in all transparency, I did have a prior discussion very, very briefly with Hope just a couple of days ago with respect to this overall concept of a $300,000 consulting service agreement, to which to which I had initially actually in all candor had expressed a little bit of surprise on because I thought that it was um you know our responsibility, meaning currently with the DA's office and then later on with that special counsel position to to really kind of take that task, which is the drafting part of it.

Now, while what what I will say is with respect to drafting, you know, specific provisions, um, I would advise this board against hiring a a drafting service, because that really is going to be contradictory to this whole concept of the code revision project, which is really to put it under one style, one narrative voice and and one convention and formatting approach.

So if if we're gonna revert right back to what we had prior to endeavoring on this code revision, which you know we started several years ago, that's really gonna kind of unravel all the work that we've done already.

So my my advice would be I you know, I it'd be easy for me to say I sure let's just hand it off to another consultant, because then I don't have to worry about it myself, but I really do think that that's inconsistent with the will of this board and the intentions and objectives that we've established, you know, over the course of the last several years.

Now, that being said, um I don't know enough about you know this idea of an outside consulting service, you know, in terms of are there specialized areas of the law where maybe they have identified certain changes in federal laws and regulations, which if nothing else would help expedite the process.

Because when you do draft, especially a lengthy ordinance, it's not just the grammar and the parallel text and the reorganization concurrent with that is you have to do a lot of legal research, right?

Um so there's two components.

So to the extent that maybe a portion of funds could be set aside, and I don't weigh in on how much that should be, but to the extent that some money could be set aside to spend on that type of specialized input where we could work in coordination with one another, or if they've identified these things, but then also in coordination with your staff and with hopes uh uh with hope, um, if you have certain best practice um approaches or other implementations um that you know we're just not familiar with, right?

We're the attorneys, we're the most boring people in the room.

We are definitely not the subject matter experts.

So we're happy to coordinate with you and your team, your consulting you know, service as well.

But as far as the drafting goes, I think that definitely that should remain with with my team.

If I may, Mayor, um I don't think the intent is to unravel the work that's already been done.

Um the intent is to bring the master plan, bring the zoning into compliance with the master plan, address some of those other issues, and then as far as um drafting of the specific language and the same voice, um of course we would assume that we would be working closely with you.

No, it and and if I may, Madam Mayor, um yeah, and and again, just going back to you know the conversation that I had a couple of days ago with with Hope.

Um, you know, I think I can speak um, you know, to to the nature of that conversation.

She was in agreement with me, you know, which is hey, the ordinance drafting side of it should stay with us, especially if if what I'm attesting to, and I can't attest to that is um you know, we will have the bandwidth.

We expect to have that bandwidth.

We do know that it was a heavy task, uh, you know, heavy lift, you know, to do the Title 18 initially, but to incorporate this next phase of the master uh plan, you know, revisions um to integrate that into what's already now been codified finally, you know, on Muni code, um, it's gonna be a lot easier to make that transition into phase two of this project.

So, of course, our team, myself included, happy to work with you know this department, but also with outside consulting services.

But um, as far as the drafting goes, we're happy to maintain that part of the project.

Thank so we I mean I still don't think it answered my question.

Well, I don't know that we can.

Well, maybe we can.

Yeah.

I mean, it w is the 200,000 all or the 300,000 all for the consultant?

Is it all for the consultant?

There's no details.

I was consulting with Cecilia.

Um, yes, it that was the intent.

I know that.

Thank you.

Uh Mr.

Martell, you uh wanted to comment.

Thank you, Mayor.

I think uh to simply answer Supervisor Jumi's point, the intent of that money is to absolutely complete Title 18 this next fiscal year, period.

Now, how we get there conceptually, what we've discussed is with the the addition of the board council rule that that allows the team to expand and focus more on that.

So when you look at the money, the mayor is right at the beginning that there are two prongs to this.

The the drafting was never intended to be done by an outside consultant, other than the current consultant of the city is using uh Nick, I believe is his name to maintain continuity in text and everything as Dan already said.

The other, and I think that's the larger portion of that money, right?

And in everybody's defense, is this numbered high?

Probably.

We don't know the total scope of work yet.

But with the change in position and and wanting to catch all the things that we're discussed, federal and state rules that might have changed even since the last recent update, that we have we take that opportunity while we're in there.

So uh I hope that helps a little bit that we are not using an outside consultant on text.

Uh Dan and and I I agree with Dan.

Why why do that route?

Dan has to make sure that that is good.

Right uh and and he trusts and has worked with uh the consultant we're currently using on another project.

So hence the reason for at least I know we're not approving FY28 anything yet.

It's just sort of there as reference.

I get that.

Um so really I guess my question was if it would expedite it, I'd be willing to try and find a way to move that into 27.

But from what I'm hearing here, we're probably better off leaving it split up, leave it at 200,000 right now, and seeing what that gets us when we start pulling open boxes and getting into it.

I would agree with that.

I think again, in in preliminary discussions, both with Hope's team and and Dan, you know, as he looks to his new role, um, that's as good as I think we can rub that crystal ball right now.

And and again, um I don't want to speak for Dan.

Um there's there's other things that he is gonna be tasked with uh by his new bosses and and you know how that shakes out is is a priority that the rest of the board you will all set.

Okay, I get it.

I'm comfortable leaving it at 200.

I I think I just want to be clear in this.

There's also in the parks quality of life, or in there, there's another, it's split 10,000 to one and 10,000 to the other or something for Title 13 updates and things.

And I think that um by letting um our special counsel control those particular expenditure lines, we will be able to get where where we want to go.

And so I just want to say there's also some for Title 13.

I didn't want the public or anyone to think we weren't being fully transparent.

I mean, I think we you know, the spentural council's role and allocation of time is gonna have to play out a little bit because I don't think anyone really knows.

And I and I appreciate that.

I uh you know, I don't want to overburden anybody.

Um as I've said before, there's 24 hours in a day, but I don't want to overburden anybody.

Um you can work 23 and a half.

But um but I I am also ready to finish Title 18.

And I I I don't know if I speak for the rest of the board, but I speak for me because this has been going on as long as I've been on the board, as long as you've been on the board, and I'm just ready to finish it.

So that's just one to get that out there.

Whatever we can do to make that happen, I would like to support that.

So that's where I'm coming from.

I I think I think there's some of them that we're going to always be making adjustments.

Yeah, probably and I think that's what I think I think all of us agree that we went through all that exercise in Title 18 and the development standards, and now I feel like wow, I wonder why we did all that work.

Yeah.

Because we turned around and did a master plan and then did hopefully only 20% of the work.

And I I think that's what my real hope is that 80% of the work that we did in Title 18, redrafting and redoing stands, and that you're really only gonna have to touch 20% of it for the implementation.

Yeah, the house has been built.

That's a good way to say it.

We might have to adjust a room or two.

Um, so I hope it's for all of our sakes.

That's all we have to do because I really do want to get to Title Four.

We had some priorities that we want to uh get to in some licensing issues, and um Title 13, Title 7.

I mean, I think we have things across the system that are 10, 15, 20 years old and they haven't been touched.

And so I want to look in my mind to say, okay, this is when I look at this budget, I'd say, okay, there's 22,000 dollars in code money, title money to help um uh Mr.

U have the right people, and if he needs a particular person just to do legal research versus drafting, he could use part of the do it find the best practices for whatever that would be great, but that gives them 220 and then a small amount that will carry over from uh Mr.

Anthony's contract because that's actually zeroed out, so we don't have 125,000 for that to continue.

No, no, no.

So I'm more interested in the long term when we're putting it out on that five-year projection model.

I would like you guys to add in for those outlier years.

I I think we're gonna be needing 125,000 a year for code.

Yeah, I think that we get in this regular practice.

I think if there is a message, that probably is the message.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

So I'd like to see that just updated on the five-year projection plan when you move the 200, go ahead and push out the 125 because I want all the departments that are here to recognize they're all important, right?

They all are.

It's not just Title 18, but it's 50% of our code.

So it's a tough, tough nut for us.

But I'm I'm going with hopefully you only have to touch 20%.

So does he, because I know he did work 24 hour days trying to get it done.

Okay.

We won't quote yet.

But don't quote you won't be held accountable to that one.

Okay.

Is there anything else in the capital?

So we have that being moved.

We have the 2.5 that's sitting in the street and highway infrastructure, item 145.

That's gonna go to 3.1.

Just putting on the record those are our yes, it would two changes.

Did anybody two what wait?

What two changes?

We're moving the 200,000 to under special counsel instead of community development.

Oh, okay.

I didn't I didn't know that's what we were doing.

Okay.

That's the first one she said.

But and we're moving increasing the 2.566 on line 145 to the 3.1 because you'll because we closed a project.

Well, it he didn't have a line.

We didn't give him any money to pay Nick or anybody, but we're gonna move it because we approve the position.

We'll now move it to that again.

Yeah, just move it to the right line of control.

I guess that's the best way to do it.

Still a 210 account, so right.

No, I would I would not transfer it to 210.

I want to keep it in the general fund.

Well, you okay, and just increase the line item for that.

Right.

Okay.

Okay.

Is that anybody have anything?

Put it in 101 under city manager, I assume.

Or to supervisors, probably more to supervisors.

That's where special title's gonna be.

Yeah, right.

Okay.

Anybody have is that it that's too easy.

I have to make some more work for Sherry.

We didn't make enough.

Let's see.

No, just kidding.

Thank you for all your guys's good work.

I know it's a ton of spreadsheets and there's nothing more frustrating for an accounting type to know that they fixed something and they didn't get the very last worksheet.

It's like, oh.

But thank you, your staff for all that hard work too.

It's very much appreciated.

But do I have any public comment on the CIP?

Okay.

Then I'll bring it back up here for a motion.

You want me to do it?

Go ahead.

Okay.

I move to approve the proposed Carson City CIP for fiscal year 27 through 31 and direct staff to return to the board with the fiscal year 2027 final budget incorporating the approved CIP for adoption for May 21st, including the corrections on the record to the street funding to 3.1 million, the movement of the 200,000 to the Board of Supervisors underneath the special council and adding the 125,000 for outlier years in the schedule.

Second.

I have a motion and a second for approval.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, let the record reflect it was unanimous.

Little bit of work and you're almost done.

Okay.

We're now gonna move on to agenda item 16C.

This is discussion and possible action uh regarding our resolution for ad valorum tax.

This will be resolution number, is it nine?

I got way too much paper.

I think it's nine.

Is this nine?

Yep.

Okay.

Um this is our standard one that we have to do, but is there anything unique or anything you need on the record for us to legally do?

No, there's no change.

No change.

Any public comment on this item?

Denny.

Hi, thank you.

Denny French, Carson City, Nevada.

I'd actually I'd actually like to suggest that taxes should be considered to go um in a place to go down.

I I know that's contrary to the fact that we're talking about having close to the issues of having more to spend than we have as income.

But I'm hoping, as everybody seems to in the developmental thing, is that this growth is gonna bring us in more than just dirty air or more noise or more uh lighting.

And and if it's not helping the city pay for itself, what are we doing?

Are are we overgrowing our means?

And are we trying to put out uh uh sense of that we've got everything covered and and we really don't?

So I'm I'm saying that if we're not considering some sort of way that our new uh community and the people that are coming in, besides the fact that we're bringing talent in as far as different uh avenues and new people and new faces, and that's all fine.

And but what we're spending on roads that we shouldn't, I think, and and that's another matter, but streets and trees and such like that.

I think we're living outside of our means.

And if we are, then can we at least consider streamlining some of the things that like I don't paperwork and this discussion today?

The amount of time that was spent on this subject alone and considering all the people of worth and value at other positions had to be here for.

Um, can we minimize those costs by having them stay in their offices and get cued if we need them?

Um the deal is for me that I think we're living outside of our means, and that what we've got as far as resources, our trees and such, or our facilities or our staff need to be watched a little closer and tighter to the vest and keep the wallet in the pocket or at least know what you've got in it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Do I have any other public comment?

No.

Okay, I'll accept a motion, Supervisor Giomi.

Move to adopt resolution number 2026-R-9.

I have a motion and a second for approval.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it.

Was unanimous.

Thank you.

We're now on to agenda item number 17, which is our non-action items.

I want to uh let's see if I can find it.

Say how excited I am that we are gonna have.

Oh, here it is.

Sorry, too much paper.

Um, a special event.

And I just learned of another one because my friend gets to be the carrier.

Crossing the Golden Great Bridge on the 4th of July and reaching the Atlantic on Thanksgiving Day, with the relay arriving in Carson City on July 16th, 2026.

So I'll try to put some more information out and do a proclamation for that.

But we are one of seven capitals that will have the glory of this relay of the Declaration of Independence.

So anyway, I just thought that was kind of neat.

We have a Carson City uh resident, uh Jeannie Young that will represent us uh to carry that.

So I'll get you guys more information.

Anyone else have something to share?

Just one.

Go ahead.

The prison is open for business.

Uh historical tours and ghostwalk tours tickets are on sale now on the preservation society website, as well as the Mother's Day haunted house.

Um ready to go.

So you want to take your mother to a haunted house on Mother's Day, get your tickets now.

Because it will fill up.

We all have it, let me tell you.

It's incredible.

The people that show up for a haunted house on Mother's Day.

It might not be my Mother's Day choice, however.

Son, if you're listening, skip that one.

I do not like scary stuff.

We had a house full of people one year at Christmas, and I said to Marty, I said, let's get out of here, go somewhere quiet.

So we went to the movie.

You can't imagine how many people are in the movie on Christmas Day.

Oh, yeah.

I I had no clue.

We walked in there and it was like elbow to elbow.

Yeah.

Um, Mr.

Martell, you have something to share.

Well, just uh thank you, Mayor.

Um, first off to Sherry and Stephanie both for leading the budget effort that you all went through today and uh just appreciate them taking the time and and energy of the larger team, Carson, um, all the elected officers and the rest of the director port team to the city manager office, um, as you know, as you saw today, and as you've been involved last uh six or eight weeks, we did it slightly different this year.

Um we added a little time up front to have a couple of additional meetings, not only with the rest of the team, but also yourselves.

Uh, and we certainly appreciate the effort that you all put in as well to give us the guidance we need to turn this corner and head to the home stretch.

So kudos to the entire team.

Thank you.

Okay, anybody else?

I don't have a water subconservancy report.

Nothing.

He's gone.

Is he gone?

Oh, you were gone.

And Ed's gone.

And so who's acting or doing well?

So we yeah, we we met last night and you know, update on um the East Fork.

Um just uh, you know, Reed Cousins is doing a wonderful job, uh, you know, as the new manager.

Um, but really it was an information type meeting, so great.

Nothing.

Oh, I'll just report a little bit because we don't get to give staff kudos too often.

Um I serve on Tahoe Transportation District.

Uh, and so I go to the lake once a month to uh work on projects there to on behalf of Carson City, and we have a bunch of different subcommittees that work on things, and we're working on State Route 28 and trying to get uh parking off of that and what we're gonna be doing there, and then what shuttles and services again.

The objective is to get vehicles off as many as you can off the roads and off the sidelines and parking.

And I just wanted to give a shout out um to uh Mr.

Martinovich because he was singled out at the last TDD meeting as really being a stellar member in his contributions to the subcommittee for helping in transit and getting vehicles off the side of the roads and code enforcements and things of that nature.

And so I was pleasantly pleased to hear our staff, because I know that committee has like 20 people on it.

So for him to get called out, we should in turn call them out.

So for a good call out, though, Chris.

This is a good call out.

Um so just kudos, but we're really doing a lot of work to do that.

They have developed this new, I forgot what they called it.

Not an octopus, but like an octopus, but they brought it in to show us instead of putting a boot on your vehicle so that you can't travel.

It's this huge yellow, don't quote me, but it's like an octopus.

Um, but it opens up and fits like a big suction cups onto your windshield, and you have to type a code in after you pay to be able to even get to move the vehicle.

So they're really bringing a technology to bear there, and then worse than that, it gets it off, but then the person has to go deliver the device back somewhere on top of, and if they don't, they get another huge fee.

So it'll be interesting to see the implementation on State Route 28 if we're finally gonna get some cars off the off the road, off the shoulders.

So that's the big project we're working on right now, though, at the transportation district.

So that's my update for that one.

You got another one?

Oh, yeah, and sorry, I I'm no problem, sorry.

It hit it.

With the budget and all, I'm just shifting gears.

Um, one thing that was discussed last night as well is um, you know, Carson River or Carson Water Subconservancy District.

Um it's a confusing name, and so uh there is uh um interest in potentially changing the name to the Carson River Conservation District, and so that um they've been working with with a couple of legislators and and working on perhaps getting that name changed so that it makes more sense to the community and better reflects really the the objectives of of the district.

Interesting.

Okay, nothing else.

All right, we will go to final public comment, the one that was here changed to beginning.

So do I have any final public comment for the board of supervisors, and then we'll go to redevelopment.

Yes, thank you very much.

I'm so pleased to hear the updates from the water uh Carson City, water cities subs.

Yeah, because I'd like to change the name just because I can't say it.

But the thing is um that I appreciate the fact that Sherry and everybody's done the wonderful job because I could look it over and see each item, and I appreciated that.

Um, I do still feel that we need to watch our P's and Qs as far as our finances, and I I think you all agree, but I want to go further.

I feel that um there's a a circumstance um related to what I feel is an over extension of and a confusing situation between parks and and open space, and that those two have to be really sort of given their true space to do their thing.

There are people in open space that do the trails in wonderful way, and the people that take care of the parts and their coexistence and their shared experience of maybe with equipment and different things like that, but I really do not see that they get to define themselves as clearly as I think they should, unless we want to put them back together.

And so um I would like that to be considered.

I don't feel that the separation is as clear cut.

I know uh Craig Bergman, he he did a thing for the foundation and talked mainly about uh the um open space, which was at a parks meeting, which is fine with me.

It was all good information and appreciated, but I don't think the deferation or people's understanding of the difference and our funding is very clear and and at times pretty murky.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Do I have any other final public comment for the Board of Supervisors?

Okay.

Then if there's no objections, we're good.

I will adjourn the Board of Supervisors.

Is everybody good if we go right to redevelopment?

Okay, because we will have a meeting, a closed meeting.

I don't know, we're gonna see how how fast.

I don't know how much talking you're gonna do.

No, okay, then I'm gonna call the redevelopment to order.

Uh Mr.

Hone, may I have a roll call, please?

Chair person bagwell.

Here, Vice Chair Giaomi, Member Horton, Member Shuty, Member White.

You have your quorum.

Thank you so much.

Um, I'm gonna do opening public comment for redevelopment.

Okay, I don't have any.

I'll move on to agenda item number 23.

This is approval of our minutes of February 5th.

Did any member have any changes?

Not all accept a motion for the approval of the February 5th, 2026 minutes.

Move to approve said minutes is presented.

I have a motion and a second for approval.

All those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, say no.

Let the record reflect it was unanimous.

Thank you.

We're now on to agenda item 24.

This is discussion and possible action on the proposed budget of the redevelopment authority for 2027.

It's capital intentive budget.

Miss Benaboo, is there highlights anything that you have for the redevelopment?

There's some highlights.

So the 27 highlights, the first slide here.

That's the only correction.

On that again, very standard.

What's going on?

With that, we'll talk about capital in a minute.

The next is the fund summary again.

This is all the redevelopment funds.

So this incorporates the property taxes, the operating and the revolving fund.

No new employees all looking very standard.

Again, we'll talk about capital in just a moment.

The services and supplies are decreasing a little bit in 2027 because of incentive payments.

Next slide.

Yeah, so at the end of the day, the total revenue list expenses.

It does look like the district one is subsidizing district two by quite a large amount.

But I think we all remember back in 2002 2005 and 2012, where district two got quite a bit of money for the um the uh car dealerships down there.

And so this is kind of writing that by doing the courthouse um project in district one.

Um and then I've got the five-year projection here.

And this is just services and supplies and revenue again, 5.5% increase for taxes, same as we did on the um in the uh the regular Carson City budget.

And um we did stop the uh farmers market after this year, they're down to 2015 and 2027, and then after that, um the city will no longer be supporting um that.

And the next page is the capital.

So you can see in 26 we have a lot of little projects in 27.

It's all gonna be dedicated to the courthouse, pretty much.

There's a little bit for sidewalks and um the north Carson Street.

Um there is quite a bit of undesignated as you get into 29, and that would be uh hopefully for the payment of whatever lease or bond we end up doing for the new city hall.

Um now I think on that's on that page um 1072 where we have the breakout.

There is um 2.329, um, and that's a at a 5% interest rate over 20 years or 25 years, and so we clearly can pay that and more if if needed, depending on how that shakes out with the undesignated here.

So and then the next slide is just the final same as the first one.

It's we'll we'll present the final budget on May 21st.

Um, if there's any changes to this, um, and then do the final ones due on June 1st to taxation.

Pretty much what what we're doing here is really saving and doing for our our capital projects for the city hall.

Yeah, and I and I think there's not a lot else in there to talk about because there's not right.

And so I I know a little bit.

Oh, Jennifer left.

She didn't get to make.

I'll do it anyway.

We got the snippola, right?

She got the award whatever.

We're progressing with snippola, the 14.9 million.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yes, it came through yesterday.

So sorry, forgot to put that out earlier, but hooray, right?