Present.

Vice Chair Lucas.

Present.

Trusty Lenares.

Present.

Trusty Markle.

Present.

And Trustee Spansill.

We have a quorum.

Thank you so much.

All right, on to public comments.

The public is invited at this time to provide comments on any topic that relates to a matter over which this public body has supervision control jurisdiction or advisory power.

I don't see anybody here.

So I think we're going to move on.

Okay.

Item number four.

Approval of the minutes.

Has everybody had a chance and opportunity to read the minutes.

This is Trustee Marco.

I move to approve the meeting minutes for April 9th, 2026.

Thank you.

Do I have a second?

This is Trustee Linairs.

I second that.

All in favor.

Aye.

All opposed.

Motion passes.

Thank you.

Item number five.

Let's go on to the library director's administrative reports.

Well, hello.

Hello.

Joy Holt, Library Director for the Record.

Does anyone have any questions about the financials?

I wonder if you could tell us more about the augmentations that you mentioned later in the uh in your director's report.

Just since we're looking at the financial.

Sure.

Um, I actually didn't end up doing any um at the last minute.

I I thought, do I really need to do augmentations because it's a change in an augmentation is um typically when we've got say a ten thousand dollar budget in a line item, um, but I want to uh, or excuse me, we have zero budget in a line item, and I want to add money to that line item.

Um, otherwise it's a general entry, and I can do that myself.

Um, or when I want to pull money forward, like I've done with the gift fund, the gift fund money we pulled forward um in our last augmentations in November.

The grant money was the one that I thought I was gonna have to be doing.

Oh, I was actively working on, and then stopped myself and thought because we did a drawdown, we did our final um drawdown or our last drawdown um for the go-ed grant or interlocal agreement.

And I started thinking about it though, I don't think I actually need to do an augmentation because the money is just um they're going to apply it towards either the salary or the services and supplies because those are really the two only two line items that we have that we pay in our grants, and so the finance department will just automatically um disperse that money correctly.

I don't need to communicate that to them.

So it would be kind of me kind of muddying the water a little bit by having to tell them to do something that they're already gonna do.

So I called them and just said, this is what I'm thinking, and they were like, Oh, that's that's okay.

So I didn't have any augmentations this time, and sometimes I don't.

I always have them in the first round because of pulling the gift fund money forward from uh mostly due to the friends donation.

Um, but this time I I was working on it when I wrote this and then ended up like having a aha moment that saves some time, so I apologize for any confusion there.

Thank you.

It's just that you had mentioned it, and then I wasn't really quite sure.

No, no, that was a legitimate question.

I forgot I put it in there actually.

Okay.

On the publicity and special events.

Yeah.

I'm just kind of curious.

Is that like the the wonderful paper copies that you have?

And I mean, like, you know what I mean?

What what costs money there?

Um, that can be special print jobs that we're gonna do.

We haven't done any um this year, but if we're gonna use like an outside printer, um, which we will do once we're finished with the strategic plan and we do like a nice like trifold, we'll have that um print it out with a printer.

But in this case, what it has to do with is our um payment um to Carson now for press releases and things of that type.

Um it pays for our hootsuite, which is the platform we use that um pushes out all of our social media.

Um it also covers um any sort of uh additional costs for marketing that we're gonna do for any kind of special event.

Any other questions on this?

No.

Okay, so I'm gonna move on to my report.

Okay.

So staffing updates, and we'll we're I have a f I have a second, I'm um planning that we're gonna have some conversation about this tonight.

Um, but just to kick it off, uh our one senior library assistant position, those um interviews concluded, and we do have an offer out.

We have a verbal acceptance, um, but we're waiting on the um written offer letter to be signed by the candidate and sent back to human resources.

So we always announce names and all of that after they've signed on the dotted line.

Um there has been an offer extended and verbally accepted for the library resources and systems manager, which is the position the work for workforce development social services coordinator position that I rewrote.

We concluded interviews um last week.

We've extended an offer.

We have a verbal acceptance, and it's the same scenario as the C SLA job.

We're waiting on the formal offer letter to be signed by the candidate and back to HR.

So what's that one?

I'm sorry for the sec the library resources and systems manager.

Okay.

That was the job that I the description I rewrote, yeah.

Um, and then so that's part of our management tier, that'll be our last management position to fill.

Um, and then we've had we conducted our collection development librarian interviews, and we have uh we are I believe Sarah um was able to make contact this afternoon with um the last reference because we were doing reference checks, and if all goes as it's gone with the other references, um we will be extending an offer to our selected candidate.

So that position is tentatively filled, but not as far along.

Um we had shelter interviews um pending, and um they all got canceled.

One candidate was sick, and I think the other might um I just didn't respond to the interview time that was um offered, and we didn't hear anything back, so um there are going to be a second round of shovel inter shelver interviews next week.

So on the two, were you um you're waiting for the letter to come back?

Or these internal candidates, or did you find out?

Oh, sorry, people.

Um is outside and one is internal.

Okay, thank you.

Actually, that's let me back up.

So there's two that, yeah, the letters.

Sorry.

For the letters, the actual letters that have been um that have been drafted and sent out.

One is internal, one is ex um outside, and then um the other candidate is from outside as well.

Okay.

We only had outside candidates for that, so that's exciting.

We're almost, I'm not even gonna say the words.

Um, so there's that's what we've got going on for programming and outreach, a lot of Mother's Day stuff that I wanted to include.

Um the Oroz de Quintos launch.

That is our Spanish only, so all in Spanish story time.

Um we did have and do an outreach event at the Top OTO ice cream shop, um, for the day of the child, and we actually had quite a few people stop by our um table, and we have like 40 people.

And so, you know, fingers crossed, I think we might be starting to make some real inroads with um our Spanish speaking community, which we know is underserved, and as you guys know, I've really been trying to um to make better contact and have better outreach with that demographic.

So I think we're really starting to get there.

Um, if anyone wants to know how to play D D, which is Dungeons and Dragons, um, it's my mind is a little blown by how what is what goes into it.

Um it took an hour and a half just to come up with my character, and we're still not done.

It's really it's it's very detailed.

Anyway, so we'll see, but um we had our first um work, this first workshop for the public because each staff member did one with the with the dragon or the dungeon master, um, who is our um employee tiger uh Ratcliffe.

Um, so this was for the public, and he had a full house, he had a all of his slots were um taken.

So it's he had eight, he had room for eight people because it's something you kind of have to do in a smaller group each time because it takes a I mean there's a whole sheet and you gotta get online and look at it's very um uh like they're very it's very nuanced and so um and lots of details.

So he had eight kids show up to create their characters and hopefully they'll come back and he'll be the dungeon master, which means he runs the game and yeah, it's a whole thing, but it's very fun.

Huh?

What are the ages?

Um the age is tweens to teens, but we're probably gonna open it up to all ages because you know DD was a very hot dig when I was in high school, and I never played it, but I knew that guys that did play it and they would insult each other with like references to the game in class and stuff.

So I knew the tone was insulting, but I didn't actually understand any of it.

Um so I think I mean he I think it's gonna have a real um following because I think people are really getting back into it for variety of reasons.

Um there's a show on Netflix, the characters play DD, and so um I think it's just part of it's having a revival right now.

Um and then we are also doing another um event in the makerspace that is also in Spanish.

So.

And then you can see all of our Steam programs that are happening every Saturday, and then you can see all of those outreach events.

Yeah, can you give us a few details on those outreach events?

Some of them seem self-explanatory, and you mentioned the one on May 5th, but like what does civic engagement outreach?

What does that mean?

Oh, that was when um that was on Saturday, and I didn't um like it had a couple of different names, so I thought we'll just put civic engagement um outreach, but what it was was me and Haley went to the um another um ice cream place that's um in I can't remember the name, I can't pronounce the name, but it's in Spanish, it's behind the Little Caesars, and they had a voters registration event.

So the recorder's office was there, or the clerk was there, Scott Holan, and we were there, and we just um went with all of the stuff that we have, um both in Spanish and English, related to voting and you know, really learning the constitution and all the different electronic resources we have so that people can learn how the elections process works, how bills become bills, all of that.

So I see a picture of that on Facebook.

Probably.

You said it was behind Little Caesars in the mall.

Um, no, it's behind the Little Caesars over here on William.

Is it William Williams?

That's what I thought.

It's still by the Jiffy lube over here.

Um, and it's yeah, it's in a strip mall.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but it's a different location than La Tapatia.

So we did the Cinco de Mayo with La Tapatilla, but we also did another an earlier day of the child was the end of April with La Tapatia.

So we've done a couple of things there.

And what about the Galaxy Theater Outreach?

Well, that is they come to us and we go to them, they have um a Tuesday night five dollar movie night, and so we post up at the theater and hand out our stuff and give out 3D printed shots keys, and then they come to us and um do a similar thing um with like a like a craft and talk about the movie theater and hand out movie theater popcorn.

So they reached out to us and said we really want to do stuff with the library.

So we've done it, we've been doing quite a bit with them, yeah.

So this one is at the theater on May 19th or at the library.

That's a great question, but I think it's at the theater.

Okay, and then because they've they're they've been flip-flopping, and then is the movie a special movie, or no, it's just what um yeah, I mean it's a I think it's an older movie that's a five-dollar movie, so it's like that's why we go that night because they get more traffic because it's a five-dollar movie night, um, which is why the $5 movie night is relevant to the to the event.

But really, it's just us partnering with them and showing what um, like if they're showing a movie or they have movies in the theater that are um that are um from a book, you know, that were based on a book, then we take that book and say, hey, do you want to read the book that inspired this movie?

Um, and so it's just that it's just a way for us to get out and do some community partnering, but also I expect that it will become more fruitful as we um they've they're gonna donate some tickets for the summer reading.

Um, they've talked about maybe doing some sort of like film screening with the library, you know, um, and that kind of thing, so yeah.

And and again, they reached out to us, so and we've we've had a quite a few community partners reaching out to us, asking us if we want to partner with them.

So, so we're doing something right when they're reaching out to us, which I think is um all testament to um our programming and outreach team.

They're just killing it.

And then the last thing is a Spanish book club, and that is actually a book club that um our um partner um who owns La Tapatilla, her name is um April, asked, could we do a Spanish just a book club that's in Spanish for Spanish speakers?

And so we said, sure.

And so we created a book club and a bag for them, and then they're gonna come to the library and um right now the tentative plan is that they'll they'll have their book club in the library one night or one month, and then the following month, we'll go to La Tapatilla and do the book club with them there for our with our Spanish speaking staff, so it's the sorry, you have to buy Spanish speaking books then.

Yeah, we created a book club in a bag.

Um, that's a book that was recommended by April that's in Spanish and originally written in Spanish.

So do you have to buy a new one every month then?

I mean, um, well, so not necessarily because she also wants to let them choose their the titles that they want.

So this particular instance, we were like, Well, let's help we'll help kick this off by purchasing this book.

Um, and one of the reasons why we were like, yes, we'll we'll buy this book because it's very popular, and it's an author that is writing originally in who is from Mexico and is writing originally in Spanish.

It's not a translation, and it's pop fiction, so allegedly.

I can't really say because it's in Spanish.

We haven't read it.

No, um, but you know, we want to, just as we are but we buy the book club in bags for our not our our English speaking book club.

So, cool.

What are the demographics for that?

Would that be around April's age?

You know, I think it's across the board, honestly.

Um, because she has a lot of different ages that come to the, you know, they've got families with kids, but just older folks that are coming too.

But I would say probably it's mid-30s to mid-50s.

Nice.

Yeah.

That's very nice to hear.

I like that.

I have two curiosities.

Okay.

Uh, one is so what did you how does it go at like Carson Middle and at the high school?

Do you go to their library and do they have a class at that time or what's the what's the deal there?

It's two different things.

Carson Middle School was they reached out to us and asked us to go to a um event they were having at the school, and we went there and set up and um for their event.

I can't remember exactly what it was it for uh not fridge, it was at Carson Middle School, and it was probably like a parent teacher night or something along those lines.

Sometimes they have you know steam nights and we'll go.

Um, and that was one of those events where they reached out and said, Would you like to come and set up a table and engage with um you know our students and their parents?

So we did that.

Um, and then the high school is actually something that Haley Wilson, our programming and outreach coordinator and Michael Hansen, um uh our programming librarian go to the school and go to the library and take steam equipment with them and create uh whatever um particular sort of steam-related um artwork or or whatever kind of project they're gonna do, and they go during lunchtime.

So they're there from 10 to 12.

The kids go on a to lunch on a rotation, so some go to lunch pretty early and um and so they go out and just kind of mingle with the kids.

And in fact, um the speaking event I did with Dr.

Markle, their high school um, the high school librarian, and she's the district librarian, um, was on the panel with us, and she she approached me afterward and said, I just want to say that the library is so great to work with, and Haley and Michael are so awesome and they've we've never had the kids this engaged for those for for the events that the libraries come to us to conduct.

So um that's what the Carson High School um uh event is, and that's more regular.

Great.

Yeah, that's Ananda Campbell.

She's great, yes.

My broader question also is because I don't know if we've heard this before, so sorry if I've been missing it, but things like business um uh working together with businesses.

I think that's wonderful in the fact that they came to us, us, well, you, which is great.

Um, are there any um, are there any things that a that that we as a public entity need to be aware of when working with a private company, like it's not exactly a sponsorship, but then again, it's a liaison of something.

Is there anything, or am I just like going too far?

Uh well, like what if somebody came?

Is there a business you would say no to?

If you had one ice cream shop, would you say, Oh, we already have an ice cream shop?

I'm just because I didn't ever think about this until just this moment.

So I'm just kind of curious.

Maybe it's an Adam question.

Like, is it uh and he's saying no, thanks, and you know what I mean?

Is there any is there any thing there that's more than just goodness or that needs to be oh an awareness?

You know what I'm saying?

I would think the first thing is not to get political.

Yeah, it's never political, and we're not what I'm just saying.

That would be one business.

Yeah, we're yeah, we're not promoting La Tapatia, we're promoting the um Spanish language events that are at La Tapatia.

Um we happen to provide that I'm saying I'm not pleased with it.

I'm just saying, is there a layer that's well I've already considered that?

Okay.

Um I'm yeah, are we doing something that could be like legally fuzzy?

I've already considered that.

Yeah.

So us partnering with a business is not inappropriate.

If we're not marketing, the purpose of the partnership is not to market the business, it's to work with the business so that they can help us generate interest in literacy, and we go there to market the library, and they come to us to talk about what they're doing that's related to literacy and um other learning opportunities that are aligned with what we do, but it's not to promote a business.

Nobody's making any money.

And that's fine.

I just always think there's probably things that I just don't think about.

So I'm glad you're like, well, I think about all of that.

That's why I'm the director, right?

Hopefully, that that's part of what I've been entrusted with thinking about and do always think probably too much about any murky waters that we could be waiting into.

But as far as like any sort of political, that's why we agreed to do the civic engagement event because even though it was about elections, it was not assigned, it was not aligned with any sort of political party.

It was just to help people get more acquainted with how the election process works and how can they become registered voters?

And there was one person, one young man who just turned 18 who we who registered to vote.

So that was good.

You want to weigh in, Adam?

But I think Joy touched on the only thing you'd want to be.

So yeah, there it's hard to know um exactly what issues could arise, but the the one that would arise across the board is yeah, you want to be careful about not putting the cities or or the libraries in permit or on a private business.

So that's um, that's the what Joy was I interpret that is what Joy was talking about about being careful not to endorse the business or things like that.

Perfect.

I just felt the need to ask.

More you know.

Okay, I have a really dumb question.

Oh, never, there's no such thing.

I don't even know the answer.

Do uh the elementary schools here, do we do school elastic fairs anymore?

Some do.

Some do?

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

I don't know which ones here do, but I do know that they do them.

Okay.

I was just I don't know.

It's that would be kind of fun to do with the library one.

Yeah.

They do do them.

Um, they don't do riff anymore.

Do you remember RIF?

Yes, yes.

I lived for Riff.

But and one year I won the I got the I got the uh trivia question right and got an extra book.

Um, but yeah, they don't do RIF anymore, but they do do scholastic, yeah.

I just don't know which schools maybe all of them do.

I mean it's a fundraiser for them to some extent.

Right.

So yeah, huh?

No, because you never Yeah, I just um never haven't heard of it, but yeah.

And again, I don't have little kids, I was just wondering.

I didn't I just think it'd be so much fun.

Yeah, it would.

The the thing that I would my only hesitation about that would be is if we have a scholastic book fair and there's a cost associated associated at the library, then we're we're we're sort of stepping on our friends' toes because that's what they do across the street is sell books.

So, but you know, I mean there's all kinds of things that can be that might could that could be associated with a scholastic book fair that wouldn't necessarily be that so it's definitely something I could look into and I don't Haley might have more information about it too.

Um so yeah, they still do them though in schools.

Wow.

Um so the Sun of Marining program is almost here.

Wander beyond words is the theme.

And um the signups have officially will officially begin on June 1st.

So what that means is people can go in and they can sign up in Beanstack and be ready to go and start the challenge on the 13th.

That's the day of our kickoff party.

Um so uh people can go in and sign up for.

So there's a little confusing here because sign up for patrons have begun means that people can go up, go in and create an account and sign up in Beanstack as just a regular Beanstack user.

They can then go up and sign in, or then go in once they've done that and sign up for this challenge on the first of June.

And then so they'll be ready to go, but they can't start logging their minutes because the challenge doesn't start until the 13th.

Beanstack is the program that we use, the electronic program.

They do also get logs on paper, because some people have asked for that in the past.

But I don't think we got any last year.

So just about everybody's using the digital service.

Well, if I feel well enough, I will dress up in my Renaissance Fair outfit and come down.

I've already found an outfit.

I've had a few ideas.

So we're gonna have vendors there, we're gonna have other um, I think like there's gonna be other part community partners there.

Some are still that's not completely nailed down yet, but they're gonna be on the periphery of the parking lot.

The friends are having uh books at parking lot sale across the street.

So they'll get some action, which in turn means you know eventually that it behooves us to help them get some action because we'll we'll see the we'll reap the rewards of that effort.

Um so it's gonna be it's gonna be fun.

Um one of our staff members can make balloon animals, so we're gonna have a balloon animal um feature.

So I think it's gonna be really fun.

And it's gonna be much um uh so that's the kickoff party um and the block party.

So we'll have a little bit of a block party for that, and then we'll have a much uh like a more robust block party for the um following Monday, which is the 60th birthday party.

So sorry I didn't do a very good job of distinguishing those two days, but so we've got the kickoff party, and there's gonna be some um stuff minimally, and um maybe some vendors in the parking lot, but then it's gonna be much more robust block party and in our parking lot on the 15th, which is um our 60th anniversary.

On the 15th, yes, which is that following Monday.

That's our actual day that we became Ormsby County Library was June 15th, 1966.

So we chose to have it on that day, huh?

No, I was gonna include that in my next um uh I didn't give that exact date.

I'm sorry about that.

Yeah.

Um, but it's also before our board meeting will be before that date.

Our board meeting, I think it's the 8th of June.

Yes, yeah.

So I'll talk more.

I'll have more details um about because we'll have more of the blog party vendors nailed down for the for the birthday celebration by that meeting because they're still coming in.

We've kind of blasted a bunch of different people and we're waiting for confirmations from we're still waiting on confirmations from a few.

And then also we're gonna do a time capsule.

And the time capsules, um, we have a big barrel behind the um circulation desk, the front desk, um, for people to come in and bring in any kind of library-related item they want to put in there.

So photos of library programs or spaces, letters or notes to future readers, um, drawings or artwork, favorite book lists or recommendations um in 2026, and then we'll bury it in the secret garden and we'll I don't put an identifier on it.

So in the event that we get a new library, and we'll we'll have to move the time capsule.

Uh we'll know where it is.

Nice.

And we've already been um advertising for that about the 60th anniversary time capsule.

So that's all coming together.

You know, you did, but and I could be wrong, but it seemed to me when I looked at it on Facebook, it didn't really say what to bring.

Okay.

It didn't really give any suggestions.

It didn't say library themed.

Because I know when I read it, I thought I told a couple of my friends, oh you know, be kind of cool since you've lived in here Carson forever.

Bring some old photos or something, but actually, no.

I don't I mean, I think if people can whatever people really want to bring, we don't want to inhibit people what people want to bring, but this is just a guide, but I can I can um certainly get together with Haley and say maybe we should be just kind of help people along with ideas of what to bring.

Um so that's gonna be one of the big events of the of the party is uh the burial of the side capsule.

And then um we've created um we've got cute little bags that we're gonna be handing out and a bunch of other like um 60th anniversary uh things it's kind of interesting I think I've mentioned it before but washow 60th anniversary parties going on right now Vegas had theirs last year um I forget it's not I can't remember whoever on the east side east side of the state had a 60th so we're all kind of like libraries were having a have a moment in 1966 in Nevada um our final strategic planning workshop um is pending Dr.

Simon had to post postpone April because of some personal stuff that he had going on and now he and I are trying to sync up I'm hoping I'm going to see him tomorrow at a the Nevada director summit that's being hosted by the state library up in Tahoe.

Sarah and I have gone um it was half a day yesterday today and then half a day tomorrow um and he is going to be there to speak about the strategic plan building that he's doing with that entity so hopefully I can pull him aside and say hey let's um nail down some dates so um I'm gonna skip the augmentation part because I explained that earlier there's the patent room sign I love it I love it um and we're so we're gonna try and as we're reconsidering signage throughout we've got some ideas that are going to be aligned with that kind of look um but yeah I like it I think it turned out nice.

Very very nice.

And then last but not least um trustee Linairs and I had met um in person and she had asked and or suggested really that it would be good to have a visual aid to help better explain our staffing changes.

So here we are I will start with trustee linears if you would like more robust a more robust visual I can provide that to you directly so I have a couple of different graphs but this one keeps it pretty simple.

The reason for this was because in the course of our conversation and in conversations we've had here too there's been some comments about having high turnover.

And we actually haven't had very high turnover in terms of people leaving and positions being filled because people were leaving we've had two people resign in this fiscal year.

Those two positions being open sort of created this snowball effect of us promoting people and when we promote people their position becomes available and so it looks like we have all these vacancies which we have had but those vacancies have been mostly related to the six promotions and potentially seven promotions that we've had throughout this fiscal year.

And those positions became available and then we've had three new hires I appreciate you taking the time to do that.

And yes I would like data.

It's well it's confusing I will explain to you there's I will be very clear about that and I can provide that to all of you whomever wants to see that information but it is it is very confusing just because we've got library assistant we'll say one, two, three and then two moved into senior library position one but then senior library position one moved into librarian one.

And so it's it is a game of whackable so it definitely takes some study to really understand but at the end of the day what has actually happened is we've had two people resign um and we then began promoting people and as those people got promoted the position they were promoted from became open and so that's why we have if you were to just to go and look at our vacancies over the last year with human resources, it's a lot.

But those positions have mostly become available because we've had six soon to be seven promotions.

And so those positions became available, seven positions became available throughout the course of the year because of a promotion to another position.

Mm-hmm.

So maybe maybe Adam can help me out here.

But on the other hand, our job is not.

I totally agree.

But at the same time, if I am part of the board and I'm getting a sense of something that's happening that is incorrect, then I'm not as informed as I should be.

So when I say I want the data, right, then that's helpful for me for her to tell us this today, because otherwise I don't have a good understanding of what is happening in the big picture.

Yes, it is her job to manage all the people, but at the same time, we're looking at the big picture of the library.

And so I appreciate the conversation.

If it's something that I should just have with Joy, that's fine.

It's all right with me.

It's okay for us to ask her to drill down more on this on this.

I mean, it is.

And I I asked her to remove those because uh I don't think it was it was an appropriate for an open meeting, and that there was enough information on it to um to identify specific employees, which is not something we want to be doing in an open meeting.

Yeah, and just to be clear, their names weren't on it, but if one if one someone wanted to know who those people were, if you looked at it long enough, yeah, you could figure it out.

You had enough baseline information, right?

If you knew there, yeah.

I guess I just um again I know where you're coming from, and I can really appreciate it, and it's a fine line we're walking.

I mean, trust me, I get very frustrated sometimes with a fine line.

But yeah, two things I don't I don't want something like that to happen in an open meeting, but I also don't want to ask Joy to do something that is beyond anything we have any control over, if that makes any sense.

That's I mean, I he I hear what you're saying because the management of human resources issues is outside of the purview of the board statutorily, right?

So but on the other hand, we're still responsible for the library director's evaluation.

Right, which that's why I said it's it's a fine line, it's hard.

It is, it's very hard.

Um, and so you know, to have to be concerned about a perceived, call it a perceived uh activity, it's I think it's good for us to be able to ask questions, but again, you know, we open meetings, we have to be careful of what is said and how is said, and but we still are responsible for the uh overall uh I want to say the overall management of the library through the evaluation of the library director, it's hard.

Yeah, I think we're and and I think um Adam's point was after I thought about it, obviously, yes, correct, it could be so if someone wanted to dial it down and figure out who it was they could.

Um also it's the purpose of this and all of this was really to negate the perception that we have this incredibly high turnover rate and that it's bad.

Um, so we do have we have had turnover, but it's mostly because of internal promotions, which are good, in my opinion, as the director, and I think it's actually really boosted morale for staff.

Um, but when you have outside people um inferring that us having the number of vacancies that we have is because of some untoward reason or unfair reason or bad reason.

Um I just wanted to be clear for y'all and for you to if you were to go out and advocate for the library for people to be what's going on over there, that director, you know.

She got a high turnover rate.

Well, that's actually true.

Um if you were just to look at our vacancies, of course.

And if you were to look at even these agendas, um, it doesn't get specific about the movement.

Um, and so I just wanted to be clear, um, and also is with with giving more details as to the flow chart of how these things all moved around.

Um that is also I think helpful, but I think what Chair Nichols was really getting at and is concerned for that somehow that will evolve into a conversation about how I should be managing people and what I should be doing, and that gets into that can get into uh long arm managing of the library in a way that is not appropriate statutorily, so that's why it's fuzzy, right?

It's very fuzzy.

I appreciate that you're talking with Adam about it, and so we have good guidance, and it is just very helpful.

Uh, because in the big picture, um, it isn't just the evaluation, it's everything you said, Joey.

It it is if if I don't have a picture of it, if we don't have a picture of it, we can't be good advocates, and we can't um be as effective as we should be, as the board of trustees to understand the library and how it's going and what it needs.

It's just information.

So I appreciate it.

Thank you.

And I'm I'm glad you asked for it because this afternoon I was going, I wonder how many people have left the library this year.

Um, so I like this by chart a lot.

I appreciate it, thank you.

And that's all I've got, y'all.

Okay.

Well, thank you.

I really appreciate that.

Moving on to item five B.

Trustee reports announcements and requests for information.

Um I have an announcement.

It's Vice Chair Lucas for the record.

This is my last meeting.

Um, I'm getting ready to move out of the area this summer, and so cannot complete my term.

Um, but it's been great.

It's been a good five and a half or six-ish years because I find I filled an um I took a remainder term over my first term.

So I don't remember.

It's been a little while, but thank you everybody, and I really enjoyed it.

I'm gonna miss everyone, I'm gonna miss this, but I'm gonna be in Northern California, so I just can't make it work.

Yeah.

Well, you will be you will be sorely missed.

You've been such an incredible support, and I appreciate you.

Um, and I think I speak for everyone at the library that we we just couldn't have gotten to this place without your support for what we what everyone over there is doing, you know.

So you've been part of the team and you've been really critical part of the team, so thank you.

It's gonna be very strange.

I'm gonna have to find a new library after having been here since kindergarten.

Well, the thing is is you you might go and come back and say, So, Joy, I saw this cool thing.

Um, so you can still be helping us from afar by observing um places, things that we could be doing better.

Well, I want to thank you because you've been amazing, you've been an amazing um ally, a friend, and I for sureciate it.

I'm not crying.

No, we're not crying tonight.

I told myself we're not doing that.

Um and you've been an amazing vice chair.

Oh, well, I've led two meetings.

I don't know what we do that.

I'm gonna be totally freaking lost without that.

So it's gonna be fine.

We're gonna be fine.

Um, I have an announcement, and it's gonna be kind of cryptic because this is an open meeting, but I do need to let everyone know that I am gonna be um out of town right before our next meeting, and I'm gonna try really, really hard to be here.

Um, but there may be some circumstances where I'm not.

And my fear is because the next meeting where Joy's evaluation is due, but because Jeff is collating and and doing everything, it's it's not aggregating.

Yeah, it's not going to let's say we didn't have a meeting because we didn't have a quorum.

Because Beth, we've got I'm gonna be gone.

Um would that impact your evaluation?

Yes.

In terms of it being executed, yeah.

Yeah.

A quorum is three.

So if all the lake work is done beforehand, and HR is doing the wrap-up and everything, it sounds like as long as there's three people here, it could still be approved.

And a quorum changes when there's an uh open seat, right?

Um it would it'd still be three with an open seat because you've got to have um half plus one.

Yeah.

And um, so yeah.

We could also if we're if we ran up against not having a quorum, we could I could reach out and see what we could do to have you zoom in if you were able to do that.

Okay.

I don't yeah, I don't know.

I'm just saying if if circ if circumstances and I can't be here, it's probably not real good.

So yeah, seriously.

Um but yeah, it would have to if we didn't have a quorum, we we would just have to wait to do the approval of the evaluation and all of that.

Well, I'm gonna do everything I can to be here, but I just wanted to announce in case you all got something from Joy.

It's like what is going on?

That is what's going on.

Speaking of um getting stuff from me, did everybody receive the materials from HR and from me that we're needed to move forward with the evaluation.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Does anybody else have an announcement?

Or night for announcements?

Jeez.

No, come on.

No, just the uh, you know, as Joy mentioned the uh browser's corner bookstore, the friends will be having a parking lot sale on the 13th, the day that the summer reading program starts.

Oh nice.

Okay.

You know what it won't it won't be giant.

But there'll be balloons and bubbles.

That's all you need.

Balloons, bubbles, and books.

What else you got?

I forgot I have a bag of puzzles in my house.

I was gonna bring for the puzzle exchange.

We had to move it, it's grown.

Isn't it just gonna donate them?

Yeah, no, we've the donations have grown, so that's what and people are it's yeah, people are using it and living it, so yeah, it's been successful.

The browser's corner has a puzzle sale going on right now, buy one get one free.

Um, but it's only thousand piece or over.

Oh, I should tell my mom about that.

Okay.

Um the the thousand piece puzzles are they're not as popular as the three and five hundred songs.

I mean, listen, thousand pieces, that's hardcore.

I can't imagine what.

I guess on my mind and sorry to be so not as much fun as any of you.

Um the strategic plan, we're still a we're still gonna be, we don't we aren't gonna have any time problems with this little smidge of a delay.

We'll be okay.

Yeah, because we got a waiver, so we've got we've got a lot more breathing room because of it.

Okay, good.

Well, I hope you have a successful conversation with me.

Me too.

Um and and the you know, things just have happened and um this were these this was unavoidable for reasons.

We don't know I don't need to hear that.

And then also, you know, then then once then I'm in training because I went to the national I went to the Nevada Library Association um uh conference with two staff members, um, and then I'm at this this summit, and then at the end of June we'll um two of the two managers and I will be going to Chicago for ALA so um you know trying to sync all of those schedules up has been has been a challenge but yes we will we will get there Beth I'll miss you you've been a very welcoming presence on the board for the new people thank you you all have it's been very nice all of you make me feel very welcome I'm sitting here thinking like wait a minute though I was here before COVID so that means more than six no it doesn't COVID 2020 well extended though but I mean like I remember having meetings here before we then had to start switch to digital meetings during COVID so I don't know no you were here because you were here when Amanda in uh you were Amanda Long was president yeah and doctor Colgrove was here right and you were you were doing you were you came in Phyllis was still on our board yeah and you were filling someone else's term right yeah yeah that was when we guys were still zooming because you were here before me I mean you were here before me before I was if in deputy yeah it's the end of an era but exciting too for you no I work remote and so does my partner so we are keeping our jobs you're just relocating from where that's cool.

I love it that you're taking an adventure right on yeah I can't live here forever well I don't want to live here for forever and ever I might be back but do we have any more reports announcements and requests for information okay let uh oh one more time for public comment if anybody has anything they want to say nobody here so let's move on and let's adjourn the meeting and then we can gush all over you and this four guys not taking notes as we oh yeah how wonderful you are and how much