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I'd like to call this September twenty-third, two thousand twenty-five meeting of city council to order.

Madam Madam Clerk, would you please call the role?

Councilmember Greg.

Councilmember Sheeley.

Here.

Councilmember McBride.

Here.

Councilmember Mitchell.

Councilmember Brady.

Councilmember Gregory.

Councilmember Waring.

Councilmember Seekings.

Councilmember Tinkler.

Councilmember Bowden.

Councilmember Appell.

Councilmember Parker.

Mayor Cogswell.

Here.

I'd now like to ask Councilmember Appell to give the invocation and lead of everybody lead everybody in the Pledge of Allegiance.

All right.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

So Jewish people today all over the city of Charleston and all over the world celebrate the holiday of Rosha Shanah, which is the Jewish New Year.

It's not quite as fun as the new year.

There's no fireworks and there's much less drinking.

And um, and I even made time to be with y'all today, despite despite that.

So I'm gonna lead a quick um prayer.

Part of what Rosh Hashanah is is the birthday for the world.

And that's a world we all share.

And so the this prayer is called a beautiful world.

And God saw everything that he had made and found it very good.

And he said, This is a beautiful world that I have given you.

Take good care of it, do not ruin it.

It is said before the world was created, the Holy One kept creating worlds and destroying them.

Finally, he created this one, and he was satisfied.

And he said to Adam, this is the last world I shall make.

I place it in your hands, hold it in trust.

And that's what we're doing here today in a little piece of the world we call the city of Charleston.

Try to conduct our business today and make the world a better place.

But just did want to recognize all that he has done for our city.

He has incredible vision.

I have a lot of respect for him.

He's done good things for this city in terms of operations and bringing about a broader vision and uh pushing us to think holistically.

So want to take an opportunity to just thank him for his service.

Um now getting into uh presentations and recognition, I'd like to invite Councilman Gregory, Councilman Waring, um, Councilman Mitchell up to the stage, uh, as well as um uh Charlton Singleton with Moja, uh, who's the artistic, of course, director of the Mojo Arts Festival, Christine Johnson, who is the 2025 Moja Arts Festival poster artist, and Tommy Brown Jr., who is the featured musical performer, and then also um I believe we have Mr.

Darren Lee Calhoun with Avery.

If you wanted to come up here as well, um just wanted to let everybody in the audience know, and those that might be listening that Moja kicks off this week.

We have a lot of incredible performances going on.

It's uh hell of a good time every year, and really do appreciate Charlton your leadership and all that you have done and congratulations to the award winners and the performers.

Uh so excited about um uh Moja Festival 2025.

So we can get a quick picture with everybody.

You'll squeeze on in, sweeve on in, squeeze on in.

Come on.

I'll pull anchor here.

Thank you.

And uh unfortunately we don't have a lot of time for people to give talks tonight.

We've got to move through a pretty busy agenda, but otherwise, really excited uh for everything that you all have going on.

Um I would next like to invite up uh Andrew Patterson and Shalom Jacks with Motley Rice.

Did I get that name right?

All right, all right.

Uh this is honor of uh mesophilia mesothelioma.

Um don't worry, I gotta I get to read it about seven times here.

Um mesothelioma is an aggressive asbestos-related cancer that affects the link linings of the lungs, abdomen, heart, and other organs, and whereas the heavy use of asbestos and manufacturing, uh industry and construction has been recognized as quote, the worst occupational health disaster in U.S.

history, unquote.

And whereas asbestos was used in the construction of virtually all office buildings, public schools, and homes built before 1975, and whereas a high percentage of all mesothelioma victims were exposed to asbestos on naval ships and in shipyards, including in Charleston, South Carolina.

And whereas this is now believed to include many of the firefighters, police officers and rescue workers from ground zero and 9-11, and whereas exposure to asbestos for as little as one month can result in mesotheliomia 30 years later.

And whereas because of occupational Navy service related household or even incidental exposures and the very long latency of the disease, tens of millions of Americans are now at risk for developing mesotheliomia.

And whereas for decades, the need for research to develop effective treatments for mesothelioma was overlooked.

And whereas the result of this neglect is that treatments available today generally have only limited effect on most patients and most patients die with only within only 12 to 15 months from diagnosis.

And whereas the establishment of establishment of mesotheliomia, mesothelioma awareness day would raise public awareness of the disease and the need to develop effective treatments for it.

Now, therefore, our William S.

Cogswell Jr., mayor of the city of Charleston, to hereby proclaim September 26, 2025 as Mesothelioma Awareness Day.

Thank you.

Thanks, guys.

Appreciate it.

Okay, we are now on to public hearings.

There's one public hearing tonight.

I'm gonna ask uh Josh Martin with the city of Charleston to present.

Um everyone.

Good evening, everyone.

Josh Martin with the City of Charleston.

We're here tonight with a public hearing regarding the proposed overlay district for the medical university district that's located on the peninsula of Charleston related to the MUSC owned properties.

And so tonight is the public hearing.

This is the second public hearing that we've had.

We had a the first public hearing at a special planning commission meeting in August on August 26th.

So this will be the second public hearing tonight to rezone the parcels herein that will be subject to a new proposed overlay for the medical university district.

And this is just a map showing some of those parcels, which we'll go through in the presentation as well.

It's important to note that the future land use element that is subject to all these parcels, both uh the two uh future land use elements are not being uh changed or revised.

And so we'll get into uh how we are how we got here tonight.

And so for some of you, um I know that through the community development committee meeting, you heard some of this, or maybe you've heard it in another public meeting.

So this started about a year and a half ago when MUSC made a conscious decision that they wanted to stay uh downtown on campus and and grow uh their campus accordingly to meet the future needs of both uh the medical university as well as the hospital uses itself.

Uh this is a uh uh concept called innovation districts.

There we're seeing a trend across the country around certain hospital districts where they are wanting to become more like the city that they're located within, as opposed to just kind of a single use district that's only doing a hospital or only doing a laboratory service or a parking garage or what have you.

And so uh MUSC went through an internal review process hiring a firm to see what they would need to do, the steps they would need to take to implement an innovation district for the medical university.

Uh there's only about 10 of these that exist in the US today.

And so um they are went through a report, and one of the reports uh that they went through had to do with some zoning uh and and framework uh revisions that would needed to happen in order to make this innovation district successful.

Um, this has been seen in Cambridge, this has been seen at Austin uh University City in Philadelphia and what have you.

And so when we started this process, we started looking at what are the barriers that they have in their existing zoning framework, uh both in the zoning district itself, which is limited business, as well as various height districts that are on uh currently subject to the campus.

Uh and the overarching issue is that MUSC wanted to take a comprehensive strategy of how their campus would grow in the future and how they would make it more of a place that's of Charleston than less of a place that's more suburban in nature and not uh in just single use.

And so we thought that that was a good strategy.

This is also in coordination with a campus master plan that is underway right now that uh is looking at how the campus can grow appropriately and where it should grow in the future.

Uh and then it was coupled also with kind of a uh knowledge of that West Edge maybe uh wasn't going to be where the future of the MUSC uses would be.

That may be more of a housing uh type of initiative, and maybe some of those planned uses would come back, quote unquote on campus, specifically along the Calhoun corridor uh and uh in between uh Routledge Lockwood and B.

So the other thing is that MUSC, this is important to note, uh, unlike a private property owner.

So if you bought a lot and you wanted to build a house, you both build a house and you start uh you know within six months after you have a design.

MUSC is typically a 10-year lead time once they just say we want to build a building.

Uh we want to build a medical facility to go through the process of funding state legislature, um, all the different procurement and what have you.

That's about a 10-year lead before they can put a shovel in the ground.

And our vested rights in the state of South Carolina do not provide that certainty beyond two years without getting additional uh additional uh extensions that can or cannot be granted.

And so one of the things that we were trying to do is create some certainty for the medical university.

If they've made the decision to stay downtown, how can we provide levels of certainty for them to have that?

And we didn't want to go through this series of kind of mutually exclusive variances where we're making one off you know exceptions but not thinking about it comprehensively.

And so that was a big that was a big uh decision that we were making in the beginning.

So here are the the the big seven uh things that we've been talking about for the past uh year and through a series of workshops uh since the public special planning commission meeting.

We had um uh a uh a public workshop in this room uh to go through all the questions and comments.

There's a really fun document.

If you can't sleep tonight, um this is the document for you.

Uh, but it's a document of a summary of all the comments that we've received to date and a detailed response of all those to try to show you uh how we're addressing those within the revisions to the ordinance through that workshop.

Uh mayor uh led that workshop, and we heard a few more additional comments, but nothing uh too critically different than what we had heard to date.

So the first one, these are all the zoning considerations that we're looking at in the overlay.

So it's important to note that this overlay sits on top of the existing zoning that's on the property.

So you have a property that's zoned LB, and if this passes tonight, it would then be within the uh medical peninsula medical district uh overlay zone.

And so that's how the overlay process works.

And so here are all the MUSC related properties, and again, this only uh applies to MUSC related properties, not private property owners, and that was by design.

So the first one is there was a uh consideration of uh how the uses, hours of operation, and setback and area regulations.

And so one of the things that we found out that the hours of use were limited in LB, so that a hospital couldn't operate 24 hours a day, or uh you couldn't have a coffee shop that opens before seven, or you couldn't have a restaurant.

And so to bring this mixed use, and that's kind of the goal this mixed use, introduce housing, introduce restaurants, retail, and really live work and play.

We had to think about that.

Number two, the permitted uses.

There were some permitted uses that they needed.

Um housing is one of the largest um needs, um, no surprise to the university, both from a student housing side as well as an employee housing side.

So we had to adjust some of our uh table permitted uses to allow, for example, a dermitory to happen or a daycare center, so we could have people living there with daycares, and then height area and setback regulations.

LB is a very suburban district, and so we had to relieve some of the yard regulations and lot dimensional standards, so we would have something that would look like Charleston when it's built without a list of variances and special exceptions.

So, in this, that's the first proposed um in the Oberley Zone.

We've adjusted that.

Uh, the parking standards, MUSC is the largest park and ride institution uh on the peninsula.

It transports around 4,500 people per day to and from the university and to the hospital district at the medical district, and that um happens typically uh from a park and ride lot in West Ashley.

Um so all those parking uh spots are used to to which should be used to accommodate uh the parking needed for proposed uses on campus, but they're located too far away from campus.

So those parking spaces don't count toward their uses.

So if they built a building and said those parking spaces, they can't count because they're at more than 400 feet away.

Same as on campus, they have centralized parking.

So we had to adjust the parking standards to get that uh coordinated.

So we just remove parking standards uh from the medical uh university district overlay zone.

BAR review, this is um this is a kind of important one.

So again, going through a certainty, we went through uh with university and looked at a kind of a growth framework map.

And so the growth framework are those areas in orange uh that uh in the campus planner had also that is working with the university had validated this growth framework.

And so if this were areas to grow, uh we would have some flexibility in terms of how uh demolition of buildings uh would be uh reviewed.

And so um all new construction in the overlay and on all these properties is governed by BAR.

But we went through and looked at buildings and their significance and came up with an ability to maybe remove to in order to review the demolition review by BAR for certain buildings in these orange areas only, not in the historic areas of campus that you would think of.

And I'm gonna show you some pictures here.

Um, but it's important to note um state-owned properties in South Carolina.

Uh, if they are going to be demolished, have to go through an extensive demolition review through the state historic preservation office or SHIPO as it's normally.

And that's all documented to the state using the same standards that we use locally as the BAR.

So that is very important to note that that happens and is a public notice as well.

Uh, that is alongside that.

Um, and I've done a very deep dive into uh chapter 12, section 60 of the code of ordinances to go through this and refresh my memory about that.

And so that's important to note that they will go through a review by SHIPO.

And if you uh that is that can uh be a very um level six process sometimes to get through um that they're very thorough and they're very uh again using the same standards that we're using locally.

So we have a table one in the ordinance revised ordinance is a list of significant structures.

These are all the significant structures that um demolition would still be within the BAR purview, uh as well as all new construction.

Um and then these are some that we took out of the demolition purview just to get you some of the pictures of of these structures that are located again in those orange areas.

All new construction on these properties would go through BAR, they would be subject to all the height districts, but again, the demolition would be happening at the SHEPU SHIPO process and not here uh locally.

Stormwater.

So there's been a lot of confusion about stormwater and rightfully so because I have feeling you're probably not at dinner talking about TRC uh review processes.

Um, and this is a thing that we started a while back called third party review, and what happened was is that we were getting bogged down with a lot of workload on the stormwater review at the TRC level with city staff.

City decided to go out and hire third party consultants, so you could go through the process in one of two lines.

Uh and maybe this is the easiest way to put it.

So if if Mayor Cogswell is in this line and he's going down to TRC review and he's using the city staff, and Ross Appel goes down a different line and he decides he wants to get out of the city line and use a third party reviewer, he still gets back in line at the end to go through the final review at city staff.

So it's not as if you're not being reviewed by city staff, no matter which line you're going through.

It all ends back in city staff.

It just if you wanted to use a third party review and pay for that review, that could be a way to kind of expedite your review to get to the end of the line.

You're still in the line.

So that was kind of a very confusing point along the way.

We also clarified just with a uh sentence at the end that the technical review process applies to all development and redevelopment in the MD overlay zone.

No one is exempt from that process in this overlay zone.

So it's important to note.

Height districts, uh, so we have various height districts in uh the medical district.

When we uh rezoned the 18,243 parcels to revise all the height in the city to height from feet, height by feet to height by stories.

We left the medical district out.

Some of you probably remember that, and that was because they are very uh uh just it's it's it's it's complicated uh with all the height districts that are in the MUSC district, and so they still use this split uh height district that has a minimum building size coupled with a maximum building size to get in.

I'm gonna try to keep this very high level.

And so going back to where those orange growth zones were, uh, we have proposed that these areas that are outlined in that you can see that uh those areas that they would be bumped up uh in the back uh there in the middle, kind of middle of campus, that goes from a height of 125 feet to 200 feet maximum.

So that's about seven stories, and then where the new cancer facility is located, uh, those heights uh were increased to 200 feet with not to exceed 250 for mechanical, et cetera, on the top of the building.

Um, and those were based upon concept massing studies of the actual cancer facility.

It's interesting to note that even though uh that facility is roughly 200 feet, it's only 12 stories because each ceiling floor height is 18 feet because you've got the vault uh for the uh for the mechanical of the of the radiation treatment uh facility, and so it's not it's it's not going in terms of increasing a number of stories, but it's increasing an overall height.

One of the things that we have in Charleston is um implied wedding cake height uh control, and what that means is that um when you think about these height districts that are around the edges of the neighborhoods and the streets, um, that's a 55-foot height limit.

So you can't bring the full 200 feet to the edge of the property line.

This is a hundred foot step back.

So you go 55 foot up, you step back a hundred feet, and then you can go up to 85, then you can go up to 200.

So all the height is really in the middle of the block, so that visually, and we're gonna take a look at this so you don't see that.

So there's your 85, then pops up to 200.

But when you look at from the street, what you really see is a 55-foot building because you as a pedestrian are experiencing that in the middle of the block is where you're seeing the height, but it's pushed back a hundred feet on every property line.

So that's a pretty big, that's a pretty big step back if you think about the depths of an average single family home lot, like in West Ashley, that would be about 100 feet in terms of depths of that.

So that's that's a uh so we've increased the height districts there uh for where we knew that the different facilities were going to be uh built.

Um the rest of the district remains the same, all the height districts remain the same, it's only those few areas.

Accommodation uses accommodation uses in the medical uh uh uh district are important, not just for tourists that are coming to Charleston.

Uh not the that's not the case, it's really because it's part of the healing process, whether you're a family member or a patient that needs to stay here because you live in Greenville, but you need to be on campus for a few more days or a week or what have you.

And so uh accommodation uses we proposed two accommodation uses, um, and they would not exceed 250 rooms.

There was a lot of concern during our feedback that uh 5420 was lost, 5420 is the accommodations overlay zone, and that has provisions that a blunt number of you will remember we didn't want to displace office.

We won't didn't want to displace residential, we didn't want to displace these types of things.

So we've pulled back those standards now into this to put that so we've kind of got an accommodations mini overlay zone here that uh reflect the principles of 5420, which we thought was important.

Tree protection.

Okay, so this is um this was uh this was also kind of a one that we were trying to figure out um how to go about providing some certainty for trees and what where we landed.

This is different than what it was when it was at the community ballot committee meeting.

Uh, but where we've landed is we've retained tree uh regulation review by the BZA site design for all of the significant properties in that table uh for all the buildings with significant.

That's where really the grand trees are up against historic structures and these types of things.

Otherwise, we what we did is we released um the BZA SD review in the areas of the growth areas, but we increased um the most stringent replacement standards in the city, a one-to-one replacement, regardless of existing caliper of the tree, the DBH, that has to go one to one.

That's nowhere else in the city.

Uh so we increased the the replacement, we decreased the level of review by the city.

This is kind of uh going through where we've been to date, all the community outreach that we've done.

Uh again, we had the public workshop.

This is the second, this is the second uh public hearing.

Uh, if this moves for tonight uh on October 14th, we would uh or you would entertain a second and final reading of uh of the overlay.

Thank you, Mr.

Martin.

Um to public comment.

Madam Clark, how many people we have signed up?

We have 13.

We have 13.

Um all right, I'll give everybody a minute.

Uh again, just want to remind everybody the rules of decorum that uh ask you to please abide by.

This is not a question and answer.

This is for you to have your voice heard.

Uh, if you do not abide by the rules of decorum, I'll give you one warning.

Um, if you continue to not abide by them, you will be asked to leave uh the meeting.

So, Madam Clark, with that, will you please call the first speaker?

Anthony G.

Bryant.

Anthony G.

Bryant vendor department administration.

My concern is the parking and the relative confidence of the chairman.

Um graduate, talking to the department of health vendors referred my name to the Atchalts Police Department under the Buddha's adult protection act, mandatory reporting by by doctors, nurses, social workers, law enforcement.

This is a McGuire Woods on behalf of the Union Corporation.

Obviously, the position uh to intervene, Health Service Commission South Carolina.

Anthony G.

Bright was deemed logical, irrelevant, uh confusing statements under 16 department of human land securities infrastructure use sections.

McGuire Woods Dominion Energy provides power to hospitals, doctors, lawyers, mean doctors, nurses, social workers, law enforcement officers.

Is Anthony G.

Bryant Dean I was I was on the PZA doing the 9-11, doing 9-11.

Okay.

Doing 9-11.

I was against the Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act, me personally, totally against it, pointed by Tim Scott, who's a general student of the Senate right now, the 10th commandment guy.

Time.

Years ago in this chamber, we said we were going up with the buildings, no more than three stories high.

We're going up now, 10, 15, 20 feet.

You know when you lie, you'll steal.

And when you steal, you'll heal.

We open up these meetings in the name of God.

But we are doing the work off the devil.

Thank you.

Adam Friend.

Good evening.

Uh Adam Friend, um, Woodland Shores Road on James Island.

Um, you know, the Hippocratic Oath, the first thing that I think all doctors admit that they're going to follow is do no harm.

And I think that in this case, uh, you know, the location that they're choosing to grow in.

Um, I have no problem with the hospital.

I think it's awesome that they provide service for us.

Just question the location as being the best, the best location based on um making a lot of roll roll-out red carpet for them.

It feels very odd to me as a citizen that I witnessed that we're we're just basically this is just a show.

We're we're getting here to listen, but the decision's been made.

And I just have a problem with that.

I know if an individual came forward and wanted the same thing as the mayor said last time, it would be an absolute no.

So why are we making exceptions outside of what we do for everyone else?

And I just think it's important that we think about that.

It's a checks and balance.

You guys are here to protect.

And sometimes I think that's a hard thing you have to do, even if it goes outside of maybe making people upset about it.

I just wanted to say that.

Joseph McGee.

And Mr.

McGee also provided everyone with some exhibits that are on your desks as well.

Thank you very much.

So uh we were going to present, but we uh a little short on time.

So let me just run through our major points.

We'll be brief.

Um good evening, Mayor Calagswell and Council members.

So I'm Joe McGee, president of Hollis from Village Association.

We support MUC's growth and the overlay construct plan, but we urge refinement of the ordinance to promote development that's more human-scale, flood resilient, and respectful neighbors.

Four key things to improve.

One, require campus-wide stormwater plan with mitigation requirements when public systems fail or come short.

Key point what their floodwater is Hawson Village floodwater.

Uh the evaluation of the stormwater solutions must go beyond mitigation on the campus, but consider the district situation.

Number two, remove 261 Calhoun from the overlay.

Surrounded by three um by three streets of residences and a park.

Um, the latest we understand, and I want to say thanks to Josh for keeping me informed about the zoning ordinance.

The height of the building could get to be 76 feet, seven stories, not five, the current zoning, because of the requirements of the hospital.

Number three, soft, soft campus.

Well, sophist campus edges around the perimeter, key locations.

Number four, require traffic studies.

The hotels themselves are generating another 1,500 travel uh cars a day.

Time.

Lisa Jones.

Um, hi, good evening, council and mayor Coxwell.

I'm here tonight on behalf of Historic Charleston Foundation, and want to first and foremost say that we support keeping MUSC on the peninsula and are excited to be a part of this cutting edge facility.

We appreciate the city's willingness, especially Mr.

Martin in coming in speak with us and making adjustments to the ordinance.

That being said, we continue to ask that the height increases be moved away from the neighborhoods near Calhoun, Ashley, and Bratledge, and closer to the children's hospital on the western side of the peninsula.

In addition, 250 feet is too tall for the peninsula, and we request that the height be limited to 200 feet.

We'd also like to see a historic evaluation and public notice for demolition uh buildings deemed insignificant in advance of their demolition.

And finally, we ask that council think about and discuss the implications of properly property disposal if MUSC decides they no longer need a building after an action is taken on the property.

Thank you.

Josh Dix.

And it's a critical piece of infrastructure.

And that whole conversation started around how do we protect the medical district.

And then tonight we have MUSC, who's bringing a plan forward that's really gonna transform stormwater on that part of town.

It's gonna impact a lot of things with affordable housing, child care centers.

Uh, and personally, my mom is a patient at Hollings, and so being able to have MUSC do cutting edge research right here in our backyard, uh, supports a lot of families like mine.

So look forward to seeing this come to fruition, and thank you for what you do.

Justin Ferrara.

Uh, thank you to the city for its leadership on this issue and to y'all's attention.

Growing up, my mom would drop me off a cotillion across the street.

Not my most fun moment, and my granddad told me before that.

Dance with the one that brought you, and that made no sense because my mom wasn't coming inside.

But you know, I eventually learned what it meant, you know, appreciate the one that stuck around.

So we've got one hospital that's stuck around, it's MUSC.

So it's time to dance with the one that not just brought us, but it's the only girl at the ball.

We appreciate that and the leadership as well.

When we're talking about high look, I'm a developer, I've come in for extra units on multifamily with regard to making profit.

But this is about capacity.

The current hauling center is half the size.

The city's now double the size.

It makes sense for the height to need to be double the size.

Quite honestly, if you look at the growth trajectory, 10 years out, what Josh said is when it'll be intercepting, it's going to be three times the size.

So this is a capacity need.

And with regard to cops, Richmond Children's is 260.

We'd all want to go to Sloan Kettering, that's 450.

They're building a new one that's 600.

Time.

This makes sense in so many different ways, subjectively, objectively.

Thank you all for your leadership.

Elizabeth Brannard.

Hi, buddy.

Elizabeth Sol Brainerd.

I'm the president of Radcliffe Borough Neighborhood Association.

I won't go through, we're very happy with so many of the uh leadership and the changes that's come through the ordinance so far.

So thank you for that.

I would say Radcliffe Borough especially cares about traffic and parking.

We see the impact of that every single day with MUSC in this college.

Uh and then I would also say thoughtful streetscapes.

We know you need the height.

Um, but you know, next to our houses, we really do worry about that kind of thing.

So we'd appreciate your consideration in that matter.

Thank you.

Adam Balk.

All right.

Joby Amaraju.

Dr.

Cole.

Thank you, Mayor Cogville and the council for the this moment in time.

I want to acknowledge my leadership is here tonight.

Um UC has been a part of this community for 200 years, over 200 years, and we intend to be part of this community.

We're committed to Charleston.

We also know that this is a special community.

We need to do things to make a difference.

The proposed medical district overlay is critical because it gives us certainty to be able to lean into the future in a meaningful manner that makes a difference to those we care for, this community.

This building and this overlay will allow us to build a world-class building.

It can't happen without the overlay.

World class won't happen just because we need the alignment with you and the alignment with the city to make sure this is a reality.

I think it's also, by the way, much more than just a health care facility.

An overlay gives us the ability to work with the city on stormwater management and flooding in a comprehensive manner and a meaningful manner with this community, which is of concern to everybody.

It allows us to talk at more cohesive level about traffic flow, workforce housing, and what the community needs.

And a fragmented letter that makes no difference.

So again, appreciate your consideration and your leadership.

Was there anyone that I missed?

Brian Turner, sorry.

Mr.

Mayor, members of Council Brian Turner, Preservation Society of Charleston.

We support the city's efforts to use its zoning creatively and especially to create opportunities for public investments in our civic infrastructure.

And this overlay, those needs under discussion have been stormwater and drainage, better transit solutions, innovative building design and investments in historic and character defining buildings.

But neighbors have reasonable questions because added zoning flexibility does not guarantee those improvements.

The city must rely on the medical university to be a trusted partner and a good neighbor to ensure that civic infrastructure needs meet the demands caused by added density to prevent harm to neighbors to neighborhoods in Harlton Village and Radcliffe Burrow.

One of the policy trade-offs we've been caring the most about is the demolition exemption provision.

Um the relative architectural merit of the buildings is only one factor of concern.

Um it's also that the university wouldn't be constrained from demolishing and selling the underlying land.

And I wonder if uh one small improvement that could be made is a restraint on the sale of the land after demolition.

So thank you uh for including our provision regarding salvage as well.

And I appreciate the city's responsiveness.

Thank you.

Was there anyone else who I missed?

All right.

I think those were all the speakers.

And those are all the comments that we received.

Okay.

Uh let's turn it over to council.

Anyone have any questions or um can I entertain a motion?

Maybe we can get this on the floor.

Second second.

Motion may probably second it for approval.

Um, would anybody like to provide comments on this?

I just asked.

Um thanks, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, just a little more detail.

Uh, I learned a little bit through this process about the extensive you know, bus network that does that the hospital has, uh, which I was not aware of until all this came about.

But um again, the with the concern of parking, which is what what I've heard from several constituents.

Can you just explain that maybe with councilman seekings' help as well?

Um, how the parking situation will be mitigated with the bus system.

So I'm happy to jump in here, Mr.

Mayor.

Councilman Seekings.

So today, um, MUSC is the biggest customer of Carta that we've got.

We move on and off campus every month 40,000 distinct rides.

Those are 40,000 cars that don't come on to the peninsula.

We do it through five express routes, North Charleston, Mount Pleasant, um, James Island.

We service the lot that's just over the bridge by the round holiday in, and we're helping at Haget as well.

Um, so we are actively, and not only in conjunction with this, but any other plans that MUSC has for growth in conversations with them all the time about providing even more service on and off campus because they just don't have the capacity as the biggest employer in the state to put all the people who work on campus into a parking space and don't want to and have never really actually pursued that.

Uh, in addition, as you may know, there are a few parking garages on campus, one of which is uh at the corner of Augier and Rutledge.

Um, when we went through redistricting, council member, council member Gregory and I had a big fight over whether I could get a little piece of Radcliffe Borough because I wanted to.

Um, so I took Augier Street, which is just that parking lot, um, as part of this plan, um, they are going to actually in the footprint of the existing parking garage, add a couple more stories, which will add a good number of parking spaces for transient parking, not again for employees.

I think most importantly, as you think about this holistically and as a large campus that is going to plan across the board, um, it's going to be a long time before you see anything come out of the ground, including a brand new um cancer center.

You heard Mr.

Martin say that the just the process of approvals through the state takes up to 10 years before you even get to put a shovel in the ground.

In 10 years from now, right through the middle of this campus, low country rapid transit will be up and operating.

The largest and only large-scale transit project we've ever seen in the state.

MUSC will literally be the epicenter of public transit in the entire state of South Carolina when they come on board with their cancer center and all the rest that are going on there.

So they've been responsible partners with the city and with Carta of getting people on and off that campus.

That's not going to change.

We're going to continue to grow our partnership with them.

Um, and we're going to grow with them.

And again, with low country rapid transit coming, um, it to me that issue which has come up that this will not be a burden on parking.

I heard some comments about when you get accommodations on there.

Um, we've learned on the peninsula, as you all know, fellow council members on the peninsula, accommodations um uses don't really bring traffic, it's people who work there.

So again, it'll be the MUOC people that will be bringing the accommodations use.

People who stay in hotels on the peninsula by and lords don't drive here.

And if they do, there'll be provisions there.

So we feel really comfortable that we can partner with them to take care of this and that we will not be adding, we'll actually be detract taking back traffic.

And by the way, the last thing um coming very soon, long before any of this happens, will be the first ever all-cross pedestrian crosswalk on the MUSC campus.

So not only is it going to be easier access, it's gonna be safer.

So lots of things happening in and around this, and there's gonna be much more opportunity for it.

Thank you, Councilman Seekings.

Uh, Councilman Gregory.

And and just to add to um what councilman seeking said, I mean, the overlay definitely is a live workplay.

Uh, that in and of itself should reduce uh traffic as as well as parking, in addition to what councilman seekings is added.

Okay, any further comments?

Uh Councilman Mitchell.

Yes, the only thing about say overly is concerned.

This we just want to make sure that the parking is there and that we don't overrun the community with traffic.

That's one of the biggest issues that in that Ratliff Bar area that they were talking about is the traffic because they've seen so many different traffics coming.

So if we can get that done with the traffic, because they're not opposed to the development.

They just want to make sure that the community itself is not going to be overwhelmed with uh cars and traffic in that area.

So as long as that's being done, I think they'll go along with that with the proposal in that particular area.

Thank you, Councilman Mitchell.

Councilman Greg.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, I guess I have some concern over this uh the the height district, added height district at the corner of B and Courtney Street.

Um it seems like you all have a good relationship with the leadership at MUSC right now.

Um, but it it seems like we need some provision in place in case uh that leadership changes.

As you all know, um after this meeting this evening, we're going to go negotiate uh a settlement with another institution of higher learning.

And I think uh anybody that was on council 20 years ago wish they could have had that vote back.

So um I think there's uh maybe some modification that needs to be made to this to uh make us feel all comfortable that if this property were to ever change hands that um that or perhaps a provision that just says provided uh that this zoning is in place, provided MUSC is the property owner.

Um you want to answer that.

And that is in uh section one of the overlay.

That is a requirement that this overlay would not apply if it's not an NUSC related property.

And if some if they were to sell a property that then becomes a third party, the overlay would actually be lifted from that parcel once it's sold.

Well, what about the the I mean, so what about the hotel piece of this?

Because you know, we're allowing two hotels in here.

So would they would MUSC own those hotels or would those be owned by uh they would have to be owned by an MUSC related property?

So they hold property in different ways by the state of South Carolina, by the the hospital itself, by the university itself, by the foundation, and there are other LLCs that they have, but yes, they would be involved in the ownership of that parcel.

Okay.

Um I just want to make a note that uh if if you want some really fun reading, just go back and look at the various versions of this that have gone around in the past four to six months because uh a lot of tweaking and changes have been going on as a result of community input, advocacy input.

And I think it's important to make that point that there has been a lot of discussion on this.

Uh, there has been a lot of vetting, and I want to compliment staff for all of their hard work.

I want to compliment uh many of you on council that have leaned in on this, and yes, I want to compliment MUSC for their willingness to uh work with the community.

I think it says a lot, and you can just go again read that document and try and figure out how to go through all the various versions of the red line to see that this thing was not a foregone conclusion, that this has been worked over.

Um, does that mean that everybody got everything that they want?

No, it's a compromise.

Did MUSC get everything that they want?

No.

So I think it's uh example of what how things should work, and I appreciate everybody being willing to again lean in.

Uh, I also want to conclude with one final point, and that has to do with MUSC.

Uh, and I'll say this um unequivocally, I I do trust MUSC.

They've been around for 200 years, since before there were even mayors, there were intendants in the city of Charleston.

Uh, and they have an incredible track record of providing uh incredible amenities for this, not just the city, but for the region.

And for this next chapter, which I applaud them on their vision and uh their ambition uh to bring these kind of world-class facilities um in care to our community.

I think it is our job to work with them to make that uh vision into a reality.

So for that, I'm supportive of this uh uh initiative, this effort, but I do again want to just uh say thank you to all for uh help honing it into something that uh I think is a very good and strong compromise.

Uh Councilman Mitchell.

Yes, Mr.

Mayor, and along with that line, I think we what we will do along the way we're just gonna keep an eye on everything to make sure things is moving forward and moving in the way it should go, and just make sure that everything is all the eyes are dotted to T's across and what we are planning to approve if we approve it today.

And that's what I want to say, just make sure.

Because I said, you know, a long time ago we had all these hospitals on there, like McClinton banks and all these other hospitals.

Now we only have one.

But the community is growing, growing, growing.

I started out with all those hospitals.

Well, years ago, I'm not going to say my age, but years ago.

And right now, I think we need to look at it and holistically and just make sure that everything that we are saying here is going to be done and done properly for the community and making sure that the parking is in place and everything is going to be done.

I know it's going to take a long time to get all this done, but it's got to stay on top of it to make sure these things are whatever this is being said here tonight is going to take place and stay in that same marine.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councilman Mitchell.

Councilman Tinkler.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I just, I guess, want to reiterate everything and not repeat it.

I mean, I appreciate the medical university and all the efforts that Mr.

Martin has put in on this.

And there are some comments about how the city is sort of treating the MUSC differently than other classes of citizens.

And I just want to make sure that I don't see that as the case here.

And I look forward to how some of these ideas end up working out in the real world, whether it's looking at the stormwater procedures that have been used in development agreements, but have not really been used in the zoning code and how that can help you know solve some of our stormwater challenges.

And so I think these ideas are awesome, and I appreciate everyone's efforts.

But that's another great idea that's that um, you know, and how we can solve these these parking challenges by looking at this this problem comprehensively.

So thank you.

Councilman Appel.

Blame him.

He's the one that summoned me.

So I was gonna sit this out, but uh he he um he got he got he got me five.

I I turned on the uh turned on the button, so here we go.

Um I want to thank MUSC.

Um MUSC is facing a lot of the same challenges that we all are facing on the peninsula and around the city.

I mean, for MUSC specifically, major stormwater and flooding issues, very difficult, and I would argue antiquated, unpredictable, cumbersome zoning regulations that we have.

And if you haven't noticed, it's difficult to get in and out of the city, especially around rush hour.

And against all of those challenges, MUSC didn't do the easy thing, which would be to bail and go to Somerville or North Charleston or somewhere else.

They've decided to stick it out with the city of Charleston and remain on this peninsula into the next century, which frankly they didn't have to do, right?

City of Charleston, we're amazing.

We don't need any reminder of that.

Um sometimes we may take our success for granted.

You know, a lot of this stuff isn't guaranteed, especially into the future when we start talking about these challenges.

So when MUSC's commitment to remaining in the city of Charleston is met with our willingness to get flexible, get creative, and find ways we can establish a zoning framework for the future that allows the type of flexibility they need to thrive and succeed while also addressing everything that we you know value in terms of historic preservation and things like that.

I think it's just a wonderful success story.

And I think it's um great that they've been able to factor in a lot of the feedback that they've received from um the neighborhoods and historic groups, but let's also not forget about um another very important constituency that is not at the charettes, that's not at these council meetings, that's not um giving comments on feedback.

It's it's the child in chiraw that has brain cancer, right?

It's the person on John's Island Um that needs major medical intervention.

I mean, this is what we're talking about here.

We're talking about hospital, right?

It is a different type of use.

I'm I'll go ahead and own it.

I think it's a favored use.

I don't think it's an ordinary property owner.

I think they do deserve special treatment because we need a first-class, world-renowned medical um innovator in the heart of the city of Charleston, not just for today, but well into the future.

And um, this has been a good uh exercise for the city of Charleston.

It's a it's a an opportunity for us to understand how trade-offs work when it comes to regulation.

Because when we're saying building, when we're making the decision to make a seven-story proposal, a five-story proposal, that's two stories less of cancer research, two stories less of medical uh, you know, beds and treatment and things like that.

And we have to balance that with um other types of concerns.

So I think this is a great proposal.

Um I'm very enthusiastically looking forward to support it.

And I'd also mention at the end of the at the end of this um to address maybe some points that council member Greg raised.

You know, this is an ordinance.

Ordinances can be amended.

They can be tweaked if five years from now, 10 years from now, there's something that might not perfectly be working as is intended.

Future city council can can do that.

They can go in there and tweak this.

This isn't like a real estate deal 20 years ago where things are given away with a sense of finality or potential finality.

Um City Council maintains oversight and management of its ordinances.

And um that's something that won't be given away as part of this process.

So I'll end now, but I think this is a wonderful effort, and I look forward to supporting it.

Councilman Waring.

Thank you, Mr.

Mead.

Um beautifully stated.

Um I do think the question needs to be asked uh because I've heard that before.

Um everyone else doesn't get, and I wrote it down, everyone else doesn't get what Medical University is getting.

And that's a legitimate question.

But everyone else doesn't do what medical university does.

And I know we say medical university is um the only hospital left, but I think uh Medical University has a collaboration with the VA Hospital and helping keep people who put their lives on the line for this country.

Uh and they are still on the peninsula.

But exceptions are made.

Every time I go to the airport and I see a Boeing plane on the tarmac with a different flag on it to be delivered to another country, I get a sense of pride that they're made right here, not only in Charleston, South Carolina, uh, but the good old United States.

The economic impact of medical university is just as important as Boeing, just as important as BMW up in Greer, just as important as Scout Motors that everybody in the Midlands right now is excited about.

And we are too.

Just as important when NUCOR went over in Berkeley County.

Actually, a larger impact than frankly newcom.

Who's to say we don't want any of those uh economic engines in our state?

They all could have located someplace else.

Um, yes, exceptions are made, but when those exceptions are made, additional public hearings are allowed.

And that happened in this case.

So and through that public to and fro, we all get better.

The plan has already been amended.

Some of the people from the preservation society and historic society has been been heard.

And that's incorporated in this ordinance.

Sometimes I think the zoning process in the city of Charleston is kind of like a birthing process.

Any of us who've had the had the privilege of going in that delivery room, any man that is going in that delivery room with his wife, um, you came out on the other side feeling a little bit different.

You loved it before, but boy, you really loved it when you came up after that.

I know I certainly was changed.

So somehow, yeah, we we have a little tug of war going back and forth and a little exercise, but on the other side of that, we are better.

And this community and the generation certainly that will come after us, will be much better with the world-class medical facility that'll be we don't have to get on a plane and fly to try to find world-class health care.

We'd be able to drive across town, which we do now.

Future generations will be able to seek better health care access than we have today as a result of what we're doing today.

So thank you, Mr.

Mann.

Thank you, Medical University.

All right.

One more.

Just briefly, because I was answering answering a question.

I just very briefly, um, because Dr.

Cole mentioned it, but um, he was limited to one minute by our rules.

Um as we go forward, and it's something that I have been hawkish on to say the least, um, over the course of my tenure sitting in the seat, is our opportunity to partner with MUSC going forward, not only for what happens on their campus, what happens around their campus and getting to and from their campus.

And this is a moment in time that we have got to take with MUSC and other partners to really address what happens in and around the peninsula and especially in that Calhoun Street Corridor to make sure that when this is built out and when that cancer center is there, and then when someone from John's Island needs medical care, they can get on and off that campus.

So huge opportunity beyond just having MUSC here for us to partner with them.

And I think all of us around here need to recognize this moment in time as a time to really push that forward, and we look forward to that happening.

Agreed.

Mr.

Mayor, we got one more thread to pull.

Yep.

Councilman McGregor.

Um Mr.

Martin, um, you mentioned and is ties to what uh councilman Stakings was just talking about this the stormwater aspect of it.

I heard one of the public commenters uh was concerned about the impact of flooding, not you know, uh around the campus and their neighborhoods.

And I just want to point out that you know the current footprint of MUOC was built uh well before the 2021 stormwater regulations, which are in place since 2021 are much more strict.

And my understanding is that any new development uh related to this or anything else in the city, uh, that stormwater not just on the site, but all around the site and all the impacts of the stormwater from where that is being built is taken into consideration, and that stormwater runoff will be better than before the building.

Is that correct?

Yes, typically 20% better.

All right.

Uh good discussion here tonight.

We have uh the question on the floor.

Uh that has been motion made, probably seconded.

All those in favor approval signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Eyes have it.

All right.

We are now moving on to what are we missing on to approval city council.

Approval of minutes.

Move for approval.

Motion made, probably second for approval of minutes.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Opposed.

Ayes have it.

We are now on to citizens' participation.

Madam Clerk, how many people do we have signed up?

We have three.

All right, we'll give uh we'll keep it consistent.

We'll give everybody uh one minute.

Anthony Bryant.

I want to get us lawsuit to uh this lawsuit to the mayor.

That's for my for my house.

I don't argue for a living.

That goes to the mayor.

I don't argue for a living.

Was uh in 2001, I served on the BZA, and I was totally against what happened with the U.S.

Patriot Act.

Senator Scott with the Ten Commandments up back then, and I was like hiding 10 commandments up with Pope Nicholas Viking to sanction the slave trade for Portugal from the Catholic Diocese.

How would a black man put 10 commandments up and county council chamber in 1997 when when we would we came in shackles?

So again, the senator because you don't have a high school or eliminary school last time I was here.

I know the football court you're talking about.

And one of the people you're talking about is the executive Dominion Dominion Corporation, McGuire Woods, nurses, doctors, social workers, and law enforcement from Chicago to London, Atlanta, the Baltimore.

He had to call every law enforcement officer by nurses and doctors in Chicago, Atlanta, Baltimore, Maguire Woods.

Bright, ain't playing that.

Have a nice one.

It's two titles, so that attend the ethical society.

We call ourselves the holy city, and then we call ourselves the all-American city.

But we have such a big unnatural wide gap between the rich and poor.

So we are working diligently to work to have our city live up to its title.

The holy city and the all-American city.

So all us can share in the pie.

Thank you.

Deanna Miller.

Looks like I'm the closer.

My name's Deanna Miller, and I came tonight to discuss Zero Folly Road.

And even though it has been deferred, thankfully, I do want to point out and just say while I've got council members and the mayor here that this is just one parcel that is uh is coming to James Island that we've been discussing and looking at out of potentially four.

Um and what we're noticing is on Grimble Road extension, we're not just having a tiny flood, we're having a man-made lake.

And when I say man-made, it's because of a paving projects, it's because of uh apartments that have been built.

And unfortunately, um, it's only getting worse.

I've lived uh within a tenth of a mile of this location for 20 years.

And so going forward, um, this is going to come up again because we keep deferring it and we keep deflecting from it.

And I just want to say here today that as we go forward and these uh plans come across your desks.

Please just take a look and take the whole picture in and um make decisions based on that for the residents of Grimble.

So that would be helpful.

Thank you.

All right, was there anyone that I missed?

Right.

We did receive some comments online.

We had 55 comments in opposition to the annexation of Zero Folly Road.

One comment was sent by Anthony G.

Bryant, which was sent to council in full.

One comment was submitted by Kenneth Pace stating that the development at 320 Broad and Near Broad and Lockwood was too large in scale.

Three letters were received from members of the Moultrie family airs requesting support for the annexation of Zero Folly Road.

Um, and we were also asked by Eileen Darty to disseminate previous comments submitted to council from previous meetings regarding Zero Folly Road, and all of those were sent to council in full.

And those were all the comments we received.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

All right, moving on to petitions and communications, good timing.

I would like to recognize Councilman Waring, uh, who has a motion to uh amend the agenda to add the stormwater manual updates.

Oh the um public works committee meant yesterday, and I think it's it would be very good to um while I look for my notes, um to add to the agenda.

Uh I'd like to move to add a proposed amendment to the stormwater design standards manual presented by the public service public works by staff to council agenda on the petitions and communication.

Exigent circumstances behind this motion is the need to address the city's growing stormwater needs more efficiently and expeditiously, provided a better framework for the applicants and staff to navigate in this age of rising sea sea level.

That's my motion.

Exactly.

So motion made, probably second, does require two-thirds vote to amend the agenda.

Uh all those in favor of amending the agenda, signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Opposed, eyes have it.

Would you like to make a motion?

I'd like to move for approval.

We have a motion made, properly seconded.

Um who made the motion?

Did you I did?

And then, well, you seconded Gregory seconded.

Uh all those in favor, signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Opposed, eyes have it.

Mr.

Mayor.

Yes, Council Speaker.

I need to make a motion here too, if you don't mind.

Okay.

I'd like to um move to also to amend the agenda to add um a finite approval of financial participation agreement between the SC DOT and the city in the amount of 245,680 dollars for the completion of the Morrison Drive median safety project.

We're towards the end of that project now.

Um, that agreement has been signed by the DOT.

It needs to be signed by the mayor so we can complete the project.

The exigent circumstance here is this is a public safety issue, and if we don't do it tonight, we're gonna put this off for at least six, if not 12 weeks.

So I would ask that the agenda be amended to bring this forward.

It was brought forward through an amendment at TNT and was approved unanimously.

Second.

So we have a motion made to add uh amend the agenda to bring this item forward.

It's been seconded.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Opposed, eyes have it.

Move for approval, Ms.

We have motion made to approve uh the added item and seconded.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye opposed, eyes have it.

Okay, we are now we have uh a mediation settlement agreement related to 30 Ashton Street for council's consideration.

We have Ms.

Creech, uh, if you could give us a quick rundown on that.

Good evening, Mayors and Council members.

Um, this is an appeal out of the Board of Zoning Appeals zoning with respect to 30 Ashton Street.

Uh that property had been permitted as a residential short-term rental for 2021, 22, 23, and 24, and when in 2025.

The property owner applied using the same floor plans which proposed about double the square footage for short-term rental use as principal residential use.

It was denied on the grounds that it did not meet the accessory use definition in our zoning ordinance.

Specifically, that is a uh incidental and subordinate use, which while our zoning ordinance has not been amended.

The BZA has since upheld the uh interpretation of that in the short-term rental context as a smaller square footage for resident for short-term use as opposed to the principal residential use.

And so, as part of this agreement, the terms are that the property owner for as long as they own this property will not be applying again for a short-term rental permit.

They will not engage in any short-term rentals, and in exchange, the city will not be prosecuting any violations of the short-term rental ordinance that may have occurred prior to September 3rd of this year.

Okay, uh that's the explanation.

Any other questions on this one?

Can I get a motion to approve the acceptance of the uh mediation agreement?

Motion made, property seconded.

Uh, pull it out of y'all.

Uh, all those in favor, significant by saying aye.

Opposed, eyes have it, Mr.

Mayor.

Um Councilman Mitchell.

Even with that, and uh we approve it already.

We just got to make sure and uh be checking on some of these places that does start to that is doing it legally, and um, so we wouldn't get into this problem again.

Yeah, you you'll you'll see some uh enforcement um uh coming in the budget uh proposals.

So uh look for that because I agree with you completely.

Um we are we got one appointment on the commission's commission on disability and several code officer appointments.

Move for approval of item two uh A and B.

Uh motion made properly seconded if no further discussion on this item.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

All right, oppose, ayes have it.

We are now on to we have no communications and consent agenda item, so we're on to committee reports.

I'd like to call on councilman Greg forward the means.

As amended, second second as amended.

Councilman Waring, due to exigent circumstances.

I like to add uh I'm gonna give the TMS numbers, TMS numbers 45905, 04, 115, and TS number 4590504.

These are two lots located off of Hanover Street, which present the opportunity for uh affordable housing on an occupied type housing to be built on.

These properties come into the market for $550,000.

And what we're trying to do, the city owns a parcel right in front.

The three parcels combined with lot lines, adjustments probably can create four lots, maybe more, and depending on zoning, maybe have multi-owner occupied houses built.

Uh, this property uh is in walking distance of uh Graystar's home office.

It's not often that we get the opportunity to create uh affordability uh that close on the peninsula.

That is the exit circumstance, and I would hope that we would um add that to the agenda, and I'd like to move make that a motion to be added to authorize the purchase of it.

Second.

We have motion made properly seconded.

Uh further discussion on that.

Just I will say that where you used to get on to the uh old Cooper River Bridge, uh Cooper Street, and there used to be an old beat up greenhouse there for those of you that remember it.

Um that's a city-owned property.

This would be properties uh behind it that are contiguous.

I think it's a hell of a play, and um we'll certainly need further discussion on this, but I do think that this would be a great use of uh um Cooper River Bridge TIFF funds uh for affordable housing, so which we do have balance on that to to make this acquisition.

So really appreciate Councilman Waring bringing this to our attention, Councilman Mitchell, your leadership on it.

Um so I think it's a good idea and uh appreciate this what is extenuating circumstances.

Extension, yeah, there we go.

Whatever.

Uh uh okay, we have motion made, property seconded to amend the agenda.

I was uh so we have motion made, property seconded.

All those in favor of adding this to the agenda, signify by saying aye.

All right.

Opposed.

Uh we have one nay.

So we have supermajority, so we're good.

Um, and then we've had a motion made.

Do we have a motion made for approval ways and means as amended?

What?

Yeah.

We have a motion made.

Sorry.

Uh so we have a motion made and seconded to approve uh ways and means agenda.

All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

Opposed, uh had it.

Mr.

Mayor, may I just add I'd MA on the exigent circumstances when we had a couple come up?

I would just prefer that things like this be considered under regular order.

Fair enough.

Um there are there's one bill up for second reading.

Can I get a motion on that?

We have a motion made, second reading.

All those in favor.

Can I get a second?

Uh councilman Sheely seconded.

All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

All right.

Opposed.

Can I get second motion made for third reading and seconded?

Uh all those in favor, signify by saying aye.

All right.

Opposed, I have it.

There are one bill up for first reading tonight and two.

Uh zero again, as noted earlier, zero folly has been deferred at the request of the applicant.

So can I entertain a motion on end two?

Move for approval.

We have a motion made, properly seconded.

All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

All right.

Opposed.

Um, we now are on to miscellaneous business.

We have one item to take up an executive session.

Can I entertain a motion?

Motion made to go into executive session for a second.

Second.

So see legal.

Um motion made properly seconded to go into executive session.

To receive legal advice regarding Charleston School of Law.

Regarding Charleston School of Law.

So can I get a motion on that?

Second.

Okay, motion made, property seconded uh to go into executive session.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Opposed, eyes have it.

We are in executive session.

We will meet.

Where we had a good discussion, but no action was taken.

Um, but can I entertain a motion?

Um we vote on coming out of executive session.

Sorry.

Can I have a we've got a motion to come out of executive card second property?

Good God.

All those in favor of coming out of executive session signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Opposed, I have it.

Um I'd move to uh amend the agenda to include uh we have to amend the agenda.

Yes, it's on the agenda.

We have to order.

All right, move to authorize the mayor to execute the quick claim deed as contemplated by the settlement agreement.

Uh this is a point of order.

Uh I'd ask uh our legal counsel to uh just explain the procedure here.

But we don't have to amend the agenda to do it.

First, I would ask you all to make a motion to approve the settlement agreement.

Then we'll move uh to amend the agenda to include the ordinance on the quick claim deed.

Okay.

Motion to move motion to approve the settlement agreement.

Second.

Motion made properly seconded to amend this to approve the settlement agreement.

Between Omschir, the city and the Charleston School of Law.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Oppose.

I'd uh move to amend the agenda to include the ordinance to authorize the mayor to execute quick claim deed as contemplated by the settlement agreement.

The exigence circumstances here include uh their or that they're necessary to effectuate a successful agreement by October 14th and subsequent closing.

We have a motion made proper up second uh motion made properly seconded.

All those in favor of adding this item to the agenda signify by saying aye.

All right, opposed.

We have all ayes but one nay.

Um any further reading we have a motion made to move second move to approve first reading of this new agenda item that has been seconded.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye opposed, ayes have it.

No further business of this council.

This meeting stands adjourned.