13:29Everybody doing good.
13:31Um, I guess we'll call to order.
13:33We'll do the approval of minutes for June twelfth, two thousand twenty-five.
13:53Uh, we'll have a section here for public comments.
13:55If anyone would like to say a few words or ask any questions.
14:04If not, we'll move to the presentation of financial progress report for August two thousand twenty-five.
14:09Public infrastructure budget by finance and August progress report by public works.
14:16My name is Paul Boylan.
14:18I'm with the uh accounting department with the city, and I'm going to go over the progress report with financials.
14:26It was expressed at the last board meeting that our budget uh report to be more uh broken out and uh explained.
14:34So if you had that with you today, I believe it was sent.
14:54The stadium includes things such as uh professional services, the construction of the site, team equipment and contingency expenses.
15:03Below that we have the public infrastructure, which is essentially the West 26th Street infrastructure surrounding the stadium.
15:12To the right of that, it is broken up into five columns, which includes the budget, encumbrance, the actual expenses, the amount remaining, and the percentage used.
15:25For example, uh the percentage user explains the uh the amount that has been uh expensed from the budget and uh is shown in percentage form.
15:38Most notably on the uh stadium side, we have $59 million encumbrance, so that just shows that there's been a lot of work done on the project and it is in the pipeline to be expensed.
15:50So by the next time we meet at the next board meeting, you should see a lot of that uh shown up in the actual column.
15:58Uh beyond that, uh, before I move on to the next statement, does the board have any questions about this statement?
16:06Okay, I'll uh move on to the next one, which is more of a detailed explanation of all the expenses incurred as well as the balance.
16:16Umtably on this one uh with the uh cash res cash with agents with US bank.
16:25Uh something I wanted to let the board know is that we are in the process of making our third drawdown from the bank for the amount of uh 14 million.
16:34So at the next board meeting, you should see that represented on the statement.
16:38So where it says 76 million with US bank, that should be roughly 61 million by the time we do the next drawdown.
16:51If there's any other questions that the board may have, I'll be happy to answer.
17:00No in the bank, in other words.
17:08But when you say draw down from the bank, you just mean um uh monies to cover fields.
17:18Yeah, so in other words, this amount here that six million dollars in a fine cash.
17:27Is that what's that?
17:29Is that say uh six million actual the first item on the balance sheet?
17:41So let's see from the first item on the budget where it says professional services, six million.
17:48No, she on the balance sheet, okay.
18:04Thank you, I really appreciate this clarity.
18:07I like this presentation.
18:08So thank you so much.
18:09Well, yeah, and if you need any adjustments, just let us know, we'll be happy to do it.
18:16Okay, we'll move on to number five here.
18:18A resolution authorizing change order number one to the executive architect contract view 230101 for field level adjustments, design revisions to the powerhouse, pattern shop, and third base building, kitchen equipment revisions and coordination, theme regulation coordination, structural and mechanical coordination for Chattanooga Professional Baseball, provided items in the amount of 735,96.75 cents and reimbursable expenses allowance of 45,000 for a total contract value of 5,123,96.75.
19:03Good morning, Sherry Allen, Senior Advisor for Economic and Community Development.
19:08Um, I am filling in today for Bill Payne and for Clay Oliver.
19:12Um we do have a public works update slide presentation we'd like to present before we get to this item.
19:19If there's a new slide, I'll go through that.
19:30I'm going to start with the updates and then we'll go through the resolutions.
19:33So this is our construction update slide.
19:40So structural and and interior renovations of the powerhouse located in right field down to the first base are underway.
19:47Uh this includes starting the extension towards the right field and first base.
19:52Uh roof work is underway as well on the pattern shop, home plate building and third place building.
20:17This is our August spend report.
20:20Stadium costs today continue to trend similar to our initial cash flow estimates.
20:24There's a slight lag seen on the chart.
20:27And that's for two main reasons there.
20:29The first is delayed invoicings for some design service work, which will be caught up in the next sports authority meeting.
20:37And then the second is a result of savings realized by EMJ within the guaranteed maximum price during the project to date.
20:45These savings are recouped to the owner within EMJ's contract.
20:50They are being utilized to cover unforeseen costs, not within UN EMJ's scope of work originally.
20:58And if we'll go to the next slide.
21:01Okay, this is our 26th Street site prep and team supplied equipment.
21:08These columns represent the amount reimbursed to the developer and the team for completed work and do not reflect the total percent complete of the scope of the project due to the lag and draw on submittal and approval.
21:22So you've got remaining budget spent.
21:27This shows a progress towards the 30% requirement participation goal that was set.
21:33This pending amount is a single contractor that has submitted their certification paperwork and is awaiting response from the certifying agency.
21:44And we've got a drone video for you.
21:48Well shows the progress.
21:51That was a month ago, too.
22:06Starting to look like a stadium.
22:40Okay, and we're almost to the end of the video.
23:08Do you want to speak to any of the yeah?
23:14I'm listening to the stadium folks chatter, and I was like, would you like to come to the mic?
23:20I'm with uh perimeter properties.
23:22Uh we're just talking, this is a month old already.
23:24Uh obviously a lot of progress has happened.
23:26Um I know we had a lot of water yesterday.
23:28One of the things we designed, I was telling the team earlier, we designed a drainage system and a field stability system to handle excess water flows.
23:35It was part of the early work we did was the Jack and Boar underneath the interstate to make sure the stadium drained.
23:40We had no delays, even with all the intense rains that we had.
23:43Um can't say the same for T Dot, but we uh were able to uh drain the field and everything was back to work.
23:48Um we've had very little downtime with the weather, which has been uh surprising and very fortunate.
23:54Um but the work you see here is already a month old, concourse is open, you can get upstairs.
23:59The pattern shop work, you're not seeing the details of the inside of that, but all walls and framing, elevators, staircases, all the points now are accessible, um which is really nice.
24:07So we're out we're out of ladder mode and into the into the work.
24:11The other pieces here that you're not seeing is we did close the riverwalk down last month.
24:17Um obviously there is some public concern about the riverwalk closure.
24:20We're working to get that back open.
24:22It was critical to get the water and utility infrastructure in place.
24:26Uh water line is now basically where the excavators you see in this picture are.
24:30Uh so that's making the connection around the backside.
24:32Uh electrical completion starts again next week, so they start back on site from a utility standpoint.
24:37But all in all, the project's going very, very well.
24:39Uh happy to show you guys anytime you guys need to have a tour, anything, but uh it changes every day.
24:45So uh again, can't give EMJ and the team here enough credit for all the hard work that's going in and uh all of our partners down there.
24:55We are we are uh on schedule, which is phenomenal as well.
25:00So any estimates now about how long the river walk will be closed.
25:02Uh you know, we've was so hopefully we get it open in the beginning of next year in Q1.
25:08Um, there's a lot of work that has to happen.
25:09So utilities was key.
25:11So um they have to get water on the buildings for fire suppression and plumbing testing, and so that was the key component from a schedule standpoint of why we had to shut it down.
25:20And we we we kept pushing it off as much as we could and finally ran up to the time frame where we just had to close it.
25:26Um the goal is to get it open as quickly as possible and resume connectivity.
25:30Um, it's gonna be really weather dependent.
25:32A landscaping and planning's uh the retaining walls are going in, so the concourse is supported.
25:37The river walk will be down here, the permanent river walk, and the concourse is supported.
25:41Um, and so it's really a lot weather dependent.
25:44Like they didn't do that, was a piece of work that nothing happened yesterday, huh?
25:47For example, and and maybe maybe some work today will, but it'll all be weather dependent.
25:53Okay, the bicyclists will be happy whenever you can yes, and you know, it's it's unbelievable.
26:03I remember when that river walk section first opened, and you know, you'd see one or two people a day, and you know, when even up until right before our closure, you know, it is a very busy section of the riverwalk, which is a wonderful thing, and uh you know it's gonna be phenomenal when we get done with it, and it you know it's uh we'll get it open as quick as we can.
26:21Alrighty, thank you.
26:22Well, that was great, thanks.
26:29With that that update on public works, we'd now like to move back to the agenda.
26:34Remember numeral item five.
26:36This is a resolution for a change order.
26:40And so this change order orders to the executive architect contract.
26:44The funds are reimbursable expenses that were included in the contract language, but not funded.
26:50It also captures multiple design revisions that have occurred throughout the design and construction phase.
26:57Uh and those uh revisions include the first raising the field level 10 feet during the schematic design phase, design revisions to the powerhouse, the pattern shop, the third base building, uh revisions to the kitchen equipment and coordination, uh, theme or regulation coordinating coordination and structural and mechanical coordination for team provided items.
27:23So that is uh the resolution for change order number one on this item, and we'll need uh a vote for this one.
27:36Is this all within the pre-approved budget?
27:39Um we approving additional funds.
27:44Um Jeff I'm just following on the RPR um representing Bill and Court Project.
27:55Um Clay wasn't able to be here this morning, so I found out at the last minute that I needed to come down and answer questions.
28:02So um your question was um in the initial overall per project budget the 86 million, yes.
28:09Um all of these funds are still encapsulated.
28:12So all three of the change orders that are gonna be discussed today, the project is still under the the total project is still under the 86 million dollar budget.
28:21Okay, so we're still under budget.
28:24And um point on this change for the architect.
28:31In the in the initial resolution for the executive architect, there was a 400,000 dollar contingency.
28:37So this resolution will my understanding from Bill Payne.
28:41This resolution will override the initial.
28:43So that 400,000 contingency goes away.
28:47So there's really only a delta of it's a seven, what is it, 729?
28:54So it's really only a delta of 335.
28:56Okay, because there was a 400,000 dollar contingency in the initial resolution that will be offset by this.
29:04So and the bulk of that was back in schematic design when we had to raise the field up 10 feet because TDEC had concerns about groundwater at the lower levels and contamination transferring from off so off property site.
29:25There was contamination that was discovered in an adjacent property.
29:29That they were concerned if we went as deep as we wanted to go and we're having to pump water on a daily basis for several weeks.
29:35We might draw that contaminated water closer to the property.
29:40So with the decision was made to raise the field from the initial design.
29:44That's where the bulk of this expense is coming from.
29:46So I don't know if this is a question for Jeff or maybe Phil could help, but you what makes a change order come to us for approval versus just like the day-to-day because you have an initial contract for the services here, and you have to have a CRF or change order request form made, and that would bring it back to you all here for this increased amount.
30:09Although it is under the overall project budget is a change to the architect's contract.
30:14And so changes to the contract amounts would have to go to three you guys.
30:32So it just wasn't in the original contract, but it's still within our allowable budget.
30:37And then the 45,000 dollar reimbursable was on it was in D HW's original contract, but it was never captured in the funding.
30:46It was kind of a separate line item and it got missed.
30:49So that we're we've been paying those invoices, but the funding was never there captured.
30:55Well uh I appreciate that that question because it helps me kind of understand.
31:00But um how much um sorry, my mom.
31:05Uh uh, she doesn't get blocked when my phone's turned off.
31:13Um much is there, I guess, in the other category that I I guess it's like um underneath that 86 million dollars that isn't allocated.
31:27I mean, do you know the answer to that?
31:29I don't have those numbers with me right now, but after the three resolutions today, I believe it's somewhere between three and five hundred thousand that's still it's still un un allocated.
31:43Unallocated for so okay.
31:45So that that might be.
31:46I don't have the exact number with me, but that'll be roughly then half of that will be allocated to this.
31:53No, that that's after that would be after what's left now.
31:56After the three resolutions today, if all three resolutions today get approved, they'll that's how much will still be left on the initial budget unallocated.
32:05Just curious, just renovated a house and now that that area gets gone quick.
32:10So doing that today as well.
32:15I thought I had this until you kept talking.
32:20Budget versus allocation.
32:22I'm looking at the budget, 125 million in total, and then it says amount remaining of 110.
32:29Is that uh will this contract be part of the encumbrances?
32:34I would have thought.
32:39Uh now where what numbers you're getting.
32:42Um I'm I'm sure Paul does that.
32:44This contract has already been approved, and this is a uh uh change order.
32:48What's the initial contract value?
32:51For the about executive architect's contract, yeah, that we have already approved with the process.
32:57It was um I have that took the total for professional services with this.
33:05No, I'm just on a little contract thing.
33:07We've only approved it to the so it was it was um hold on, I have her here.
33:15We've encumbered 59 or something.
33:18I thought this contract is GW.
33:22I don't know if that's a professional service executive architect contract.
33:31Uh this is not necessarily this contract, this is this um, I'm just thinking in total how much has been how many.
33:42So the initial um the initial contract was a three million nine fifty-eight for basic services, three hundred and eighty-five thousand for additional uh services, and a four hundred thousand dollar design contingency for a total of four point seven four three.
33:59Right, which is all encompassed in the fifty-nine million dollars, I assume.
34:03My question was how much of this total project has been contracted out, not spent.
34:10Is it the 59 million, 59 and a half million plus the 14 that's already been spent, which makes it 37.
34:2037 million we spent today.
34:23How much we've spent today?
34:25Across all project means we can't.
34:27Yeah, about 37 million.
34:28Across our projects, you took is how much?
34:31It was on Sharita's slide.
34:32It was 37 million, is that right, Sharita?
34:37Well, that's across all projects.
34:41Well, we'll uh I think Paul knows my question.
34:44So he can answer it.
34:45You can even answer it next time.
34:47But if you want to now, that's fine.
34:50Um if if you'll just look on me.
34:54Uh financial page that he presented.
34:56That's $59 million in encumbrance for the entire project.
35:00So it's inclusive of a lot of things other than probably EMJ.
35:06And is this a professional service since it's the architects?
35:09Well, the professional services line doesn't have any encumbrance, but other than actual million three actual, I didn't know.
35:18The professional services line here has six million budgeted with nothing encumbrance.
35:24So I'm assuming all of the encumbrances are in one line item.
35:35If I can see the paper, the paper you're looking at, I might I can understand your question better, but I'm not sure where um we can make it any other questions?
35:46Do you have any other questions?
35:50Does anything else need to be presented for all three of these change orders?
35:55Or do we should we just I think you should do them one at a time on here?
35:59But he's told you that at least there will still be money in the bank at the end of all three of these changes.
36:07Yes, so we'll go ahead and go on number five, then and before we uh take action, I uh and I'm I'm just curious here.
36:18Uh, but have there been any items anywhere along the way where maybe we've seen hey that there are potential savings here and there, uh, because I know that uh I don't mean we're gonna take these one by one, but getting down to you know three hundred three hundred thousand and some change.
36:37I mean, that's uh in the scope of a project like this, it's not a lot of money.
36:41Um and it has there been anything like that, just being curious.
36:47I think you uh so the 300,000 is unallocated, it's not contingency, so it's different.
36:53There's two different buckets, right?
36:54So there was two different sets of contingencies put in, right?
36:57So there's owner directed contingency that was in control of the sports authority, and then there's contingency that EMJ is carrying.
37:03Zero dollars have been spent out of the EMJ contingency at this point.
37:07There was also a bucket of unknowns or unallocated funds where allowance items were put into the budget.
37:13So um trying to think of an example of something.
37:15Um FFNE is a good example, right?
37:18Where they didn't know the exact detail of the cost, and so those are coming in under budget, but some of the savings there has been reallocated, and that's what this reallocation is, right?
37:27So we're still haven't dipped into contingency from the contractor side yet, which is important because you're right.
37:32300,000 with a lot of work left to do would be would be uncomfortable at this point.
37:37But that's not it's it's the reallocation of the funds across the items.
37:42I thought you were saying we have 330 total sludge.
37:45I'm like, well, that's scary.
37:47Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
37:50Daisy, just to clarify too, you know, there's so many different pieces of that 125 million dollar capital stack is what makes it complicated too, with you know, your your your consultants are work, the team's work, right, to get to that total package number.
38:03You know, that's why there's the that summary slide, which is also I believe at least 30 days in a rear where we're actually spent to you know what you're seeing is at least 30 days behind where the actual dollars are today.
38:14So on the construction side, there has been signific we have found significant uh places where we were able to equip and get savings in initial buyout and also in um some of these redesigns were for cost savings purposes, so there was addition there's additional expense in redesigning something so that it would cost less to build.
38:36So and and this change order is just design cost, so it's for the architect.
38:40Okay, that thank you.
38:41That that helps me a little bit better.
38:46But before I became a lawyer, I used to dig in the dirt a lot on construction jobs, and the fact that you're leaving this 10 feet higher, is that a savings on some cost in connection with this project?
38:58Long-term OM, but we counted for that a long time ago.
39:03Yeah, that was uh that was never EMJ never made the deeper design.
39:07So they never dug the 10 foot deeper when they were going.
39:10That was uh that was a late 2023 change.
39:13Yes, okay that we're just now getting the architect's contract caught up too.
39:17But if we'd had to dig 10 foot deeper, you'd have to carry that out, you'd have to dig it up, and you'd have to take it somewhere, which would have increased your cost, correct?
39:27And and and it wasn't dirt, so you can't just put it anywhere.
39:31Yes, uh there were there were actually was although there was a significant redesign fees, there was probably significant savings in earthwork by doing that.
39:40Not to mention possible permanent groundwater control measures had we gone that deep.
39:47So those these were several of the reasons why we made the change to move it up.
39:52I'm impressed, Bill.
39:53One attorney to know those kinds of questions.
40:00Bottom line, item number five.
40:02The contract value 5.1 million dollars.
40:05That is below the budgeted amount for these services.
40:14No, it would be a change to the budgeted amount for these services.
40:19But we're but I was saying the overall project is below the of the 125 overall project.
40:25Which overall project?
40:2780 for 86 million for the stadium.
40:30This is would be considered soft cost on the 86 million.
40:36It's another, it's a delta of 335 K on the architecture costs.
40:42Is that is that correct?
40:44For this change order?
40:46So it's a it's an increase in their contract by 735,000.
40:50But there's also a 400,000 contingency that was being carried that'll go away.
40:54So it'll be a delta of 335906.
40:59So will the budget be reallocated to show that so that when we see a budget now, it would show the changes.
41:10So you're gonna amend the budget as well.
41:24So in order to cover that 300, you're gonna have to pull it from another area.
41:32Oh no, that's not fair of you than 125 million dollar contract.
41:37I mean, budget for this whole project.
41:40In order to increase yours by 300,000, then something else is gonna have to come under.
41:51It that it's it already did.
41:53There was there was can you explain that chat?
41:55The initial budget for the 86 million included the whole 86 million, but in the initial contracts and agreements that were written did not cover the whole 86 million.
42:08There was extra money.
42:09There was money above, and that's where this is gonna come from.
42:12Okay, so then it is within the 86 million dollar budget.
42:20I'm not sure the legal names for the different piles of money, but they're piles of money.
42:25So that's why Bill Payne's usually standing here.
42:30Well, thank you, Jeff.
42:31I'll ask the board is there a motion to approve?
42:48I've since a resolution authorizing change order for D2301302 S and ME construction materials testing contract adds special inspections in the amount of 143,615 for a total contract value of 327,062.
43:18So this change order adds special um inspections that are required for proper quality assurances of the construction contract and for building codes and other regulatory requirements.
43:36So I guess that's that's all I have for this item.
43:47So I'm assuming the same applies to this as the other conversation.
43:53Is still within budget.
43:55They're still within budget, yes.
43:58For this particular contract.
44:01Was there something that transpired to cause a doubling of this portion of the inspection budget?
44:11Jeff, you might be able to answer this better than I can.
44:14It's the materials testing.
44:16So SNME has been was contracted to do materials testing.
44:20They um test the concrete when it gets poured to make sure it matches the um tests the steel, they check they bought test mortar.
44:28Um it's third party spectrum.
44:30There's third party inspections uh to make sure that codes are being followed and make sure that the contractor and the owner both are it's uninvolved in the testing process.
44:41And um, this is with these contracts for third-party testing at the beginning of any project, a lot of assumptions are made based on typical and uh you know the we had to put a budget together before we had a complete design.
45:00So there were assumptions made on how many concrete testing there would be how much steel testing there would be.
45:05And some projects you get halfway through the project and realize you have way too much money, you're not gonna spend it all, and others you realize that you had assumptions that were made were wrong.
45:15Uh for example, on this project, one of the assumptions that was made was um early on, and one of the reasons for this change order is um structural steel inspections.
45:25They're uh typical projects.
45:29Moment welds are ultrasounded to make sure the welds are complete and installed properly, typically 10% of the welds.
45:38On this project, there was the whole big huge building that runs down the third baseline because of the unique steel structure of that building.
45:48The engineer wanted a hundred percent of the welds tested.
45:51Well, their their initial budget was based on a 10% assumption.
45:55So that was a significant increase in their cost.
45:59Appreciate the example.
46:02Is that because we were hooking on to older structures here as well?
46:06I wondered about the that's part of it also explained too.
46:11So uh this is the third party inspection requirement under the IBC.
46:15So IBC requires you to have a third party independent inspector to do this stuff.
46:19So that's an engineer's discretion.
46:20So the sports authority structural engineer just said, hey, I feel better giving you a level of confidence in certifying that these moment joints are are functioning as designed.
46:29So that was a call by the structural engineer, not necessarily a code or otherwise requirement.
46:35But no, those two buildings are structurally isolated from each other, even though they connect, they're still they're still designed independently of each other.
46:42Okay, so there's independent design of the new structure versus the old structure from scratch.
46:47Okay, for the third base building, right?
46:54So this just was um this change order, but there were more testing and more um requirements than was anticipated.
47:04So this is a a change order to get us to where we think will get us to the end of the project.
47:10Hopefully, it hopefully a little over getting us to the end of the project.
47:14So just clarify it's a change in the contract, but it's still well within the overall budget.
47:21Okay, it's just a change to SNME's contract.
47:24Right, but it is still within the overall budget, yes.
47:29Any further questions?
47:34There are a motion to approve number six, so moved.
47:37Second all in favor?
47:42Okay, uh number seven, a resolution authorizing payment to pipe properties pursuant to the escrow agreement in the amount of 167,862 from the unallocated interest approvals of the sports authority's bonds.
48:04So this covers the escrow escrow agreement between the sports authority and pipe properties to provide funding for site preparation of the stadium, and includes this payment to pipe properties by the sports authority to cover certain carrying costs associated with placing the funds into escrow up front at the time the bonds were initially sold.
48:25And so I may ask finance or someone to answer any questions on that one.
48:35I'm just curious as to the unauthorized interest is part of your total budget.
48:42With an estimated amount, we'll call in uh authorized unallocated interest is not part of the budget.
48:55I will have to look into that for sure, but unallocated interest, yes.
49:02That's um over that's interest that's already accrued over the 86 million, so it's not part of the budget.
49:07It's not part of the budget.
49:09Okay, so how is that then accounted for as part of our total stadium cost?
49:16Well, that would not be included, I believe, in the same cost because things that are associated with the bonds are not directly related to the construction of the stadium or the infrastructure around it.
49:28That is my understanding.
49:36This payment, I believe, is in for the construction.
49:40However, I believe the question was about the bonds and relation to the bonds and the budget.
49:48Is that what you were asking?
49:49I'm asking my item number six.
49:52Authorizing payment to pipe property, and the fourth of that payment is unallocated interest on the bond.
50:12So I have to confirm that with Bill and them, but how they're wanting to pull those funds from the interest bonds.
50:23But I have to find out from him.
50:26We can answer that later.
50:30So was that in the middle of here?
50:31The original escrow agreement.
50:33The escrow escrow agreement, which is attached here to this resolution, uh was actually signed back in October of 2024, and it was uh of all people approved, I think, by Mr.
50:45Knoblett here as your attorney at that point in time.
50:48Uh paragraph five in this document here has got a provision that says so long as the committed funds remain on deposit uh with the lender, all interest earned on the committed funds deposited with the lender shall belong to pipe, less lenders' customary servicing cost, if any.
51:05So it provides in that agreement that they would receive uh those funds uh that are interest earned on the committed funds during the term.
51:14And uh that that agreement was uh just completed uh based upon the uh request of the Westboat Banco Bank, which is the the bonding company, I believe, in connection with this matter as well.
51:27And that that document was approved by the sports authority.
51:31So that's a contractual obligation.
51:34So what you're saying is we authorize all of the accrued interest on the bond to go to pipe.
51:41Provided that there were committed funds remaining on deposit with the the lender, all interest on it would go there, but it's only the interest that is remaining on that, yes.
51:54So that will not be shown as an expense of our of for the stadium corporation, even though they're accruing from stadium bonds.
52:12Well, if we're under obligation under your agreement, yes, and then probably not much to discuss, I guess, huh?
52:19Well, that's what you said you'd do.
52:22And I don't it's sort of it's it's sort of a roundabout way of increasing the allocation or for the cost of the project.
52:31Um, because normally that interest accrual or that interest income could be used by the stadium, and indeed it is.
52:39So I don't have a problem with the interest being used for the project.
52:43It's just that it doesn't show up as part of the accounting, so it doesn't really show the total cost of the public.
52:51I would argue that it probably should show since it's based upon this agreement here.
52:55Well, well, that's okay.
52:57Well, that's well, maybe we're on the same page we'll get in two different places, but so I'm back to whether or not that shows up or how that shows up, or if it shows up in the case.
53:07Can we have it show up?
53:14Attorney talk versus the county topics.
53:17I I don't have a problem with it showing up at all.
53:19No matter any further questions.
53:25Is there a motion to approve?
53:33I move for approval.
53:34I'll second all in favor?
53:42Is there any other business to discuss?
53:44Any other comments to be made?
53:48If not, we'll adjourn.
53:50Oh, wait, can we item eight is one involving Chattanooga gas company?
54:00Yeah, we have one final item.
54:01You haven't done a would you like for me to read that or business?
54:07Oh, no, I don't have eight.
54:12Oh, the amendment, I see.
54:14Um, a resolution authorizing the chairman or his design to execute agreements or other documents with the Chattanooga Gas Company related to establishing natural gas service to the South Broad District Ballpark and authorizing payment for an amount up to 80,002 one cent.
54:34This last item is related to um national natural gas service is needed to service the team's food operations at the park.
54:42There's currently natural gas, but it's on the other side of the riverwalk, and so this agreement would extend that service to a metering metering point at the ballpark.
55:12Yeah, we're gonna I was gonna make sure is this part of the budget, yes.
55:22I move for approval.
55:23Second all in favor?
55:31I have a question for you.
55:34I didn't mind a loud voice.
55:38I didn't hear about like TIFF money collected to service the bonds.
55:44How do we know we're taking in enough to service the bonds?
55:48Is that a part of this meeting or somewhere else?
56:01I'm not sure if that's a question we would answer, but I'll I will defer, of course, to the administration because I don't want to miss state.
56:10But if there isn't any understanding is that the TIFF will not start coming in until the project is that right, guys.
56:25So I I will start by saying that the this um TIFF district is already generating increment.
56:31So that increment is coming from development and the parcels within the TIFF district that are already coming up and have already had increased value.
56:40So we're all we are already receiving TIF increment.
56:43I don't have that number in front of the thousand and 59.
56:49I don't know on the initial 59 plus yes, I can confirm we have received some TIFF funds.
56:55Uh but I'll have to go back and make sure I give you the specific amount.
56:59But uh this is just been the first time, so it wasn't it wasn't much.
57:04I mean it was taken ahead.
57:06Good question, thank you.
57:08When and why did the clock start on whatever date it started on?
57:13Yeah, uh my understanding was uh administration went by and I can't say for certain, but uh they just saw that you know some activity was occurring, so you want to go ahead and start that okay process.
57:29Well if you can answer it, yeah.
57:30So there's a there's a three-year triggering provision inside the TIFF saying that all properties within the TIFF district have to be triggered by within three years of the stadium opening, and so the first batch of the triggering occurred.
57:41I think it was around 70 properties plus or minus.
57:44Uh so that's where that TIFF revenue is coming.
57:46So there's still a whole host of other properties inside the TIFF district that haven't been triggered to start pulling that revenue into the into the state of location.
57:56Uh I'm just curious where I where I can find that information just to look at it because I was in a meeting at one point when some of this was uh discussed.
58:06Not I just don't even remember where the district is, and I don't feel like I should uh you know you can pull off the property records, but uh the without having to individually do that.
58:16Do you know if there's a centralized place you can pull the to just the TIFF district?
58:21There's a link somewhere in the tree that's a drop box file somewhere, but I can't remember where.
58:28That's just curious.
58:30All right, you actually send to our board members the TIFF district documentation.
58:35We actually would appreciate that.
58:37Yeah, we'll get that to all the board members.
58:45Um for future meetings.
58:49Is it possible to show how much TIFF dollars are coming in?
58:54I mean, I don't I wouldn't necessarily offer it.
58:57And if we can compare that to what the projections were, because obviously there's a lag with the projections based on the development, but sure.
59:03Um I think all that was factored into the projections when we approved all of this.
59:07So if there's a side by side of kind of like the chart you'll do now, essentially TIFF revenue coming in versus what the projected TIP revenue was at that point, something like that would be helpful.
59:26If there's nothing else, then we'll adjourn.