Good afternoon, everyone.

Call to order the meeting of the Chattanooga City Council for Tuesday, December sixteenth.

Like to invite Councilman Henderson to lead us in the pledge and the invocation.

And the government shall be upon his shoulders.

And we thank you for your blessings on our life.

In your name we pray, Amen.

Can I get a motion on the minutes, please?

Thank you, Council.

The minutes will stand without objection.

Seeing nine minutes stand.

All right, let's take a look at today's agenda, please.

Items C through I, seven C through I, I intend to take as a package unless we have a reason not to.

If you would like one of those pulled out, please go ahead and hit your light.

Okay, ordinances under first read on first reading, Office of the City Attorney.

The first item is related to the deannexation.

Um Mr.

Attorney, would you like to speak to that, please?

Uh yes, ma'am.

Uh there has been a uh discussion uh at this point in time uh with uh Mr.

Sam Elliott on behalf of the town of Collegedale and the applicant in here.

Uh there has been a discussion about an arrangement here that would result in an adjustment of boundaries so that this property would not be left outside in the county by itself and would actually be part of the city of Collegedale.

And we have prepared documents here to submit to the the council to discuss about that.

Like to have that uh discussed here, and it would be my recommendation to deny this request for de-annexation at this time because it would leave this property without the ability of being in any city attorney recommends a motion of denial for item A.

Councilman Henderson.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh on the next item B, and and first of all, I'd like to thank um Councilman Clark Davis, Elliot, and Harvey for co-sponsoring that so that we could get it onto the agenda for discussion.

I noticed it is also uh on for items of discussion uh over on our discussion of agenda.

So I didn't know at what point or order that you wanted to take discussion of this.

You can you can go ahead right now.

Yes right now?

Yes, okay.

That is a uh remnant from an earlier agenda that item there at the top.

Okay.

Thank you, ma'am.

So uh this is uh I think everyone should have a uh copy of this amendment uh in your uh folders.

Uh I'm gonna highlight uh a couple of things, basically the two main things that this ordinance does.

Uh number one, it it places an age limit on uh horses pulling these carriages to 25, but it also uh categories categorizes them as uh geriatric uh between the ages of 20 and 25, which basically uh uh places special conditions on them so that they're under the care of a vet uh that they're looked at a little bit uh closer, uh more closely.

Uh the other thing it does is it establishes um that pregnant mares um can work up to 180 days after falling.

Uh it also uh designates them as um geriatric so that they are under special care of a veterinarian.

Um and we do have the city attorney that helped uh help me work on this.

Um is it Chris?

Chris Knight.

Yes.

Uh Chris, if you want to come up and just uh kind of as you were uh I guess researching this, and and and by the way, I've I reached out to some veterinarians uh that I know that that have uh expertise in this area.

Um they all recommended and and and were good with this.

I would just like for Chris to testify that he has also uh checked with veterinarians and that uh what's in this ordinance is uh I guess uh in keeping with the with what they would consider to be good practice.

Good afternoon, esteemed council members.

I'm Christopher McKnight.

I'm with the city attorney's office as a staff attorney there.

And uh I'm here today to discuss this ordinance that would amend Chattanooga City Code Chapter 35, Article 6, sections 35-186, 35-203, and 35-204, all pertaining to definitions, requirements for horses in service and animal working conditions.

First things first, we add a definition under the uh uh Chattanooga City Code, Chapter 35, Section 35-203 to add in a designation of definition of geriatric horse that uh it means a horse that has reached the age of 20 years.

So once they hit a certain point in their age, they are considered geriatric and subject to additional protections, uh further discussed in section two.

Uh those requirements uh first off, they shall be required to undergo examinations by license vet pursuit to section 35203B2 every six months instead of annually.

So we bump the requirements for checkups to twice a year instead of once annually.

Second, they shall not be permitted to work at polling carriages upon receiving any diagnosis from a licensed veterinarian that indicates the geriatric horse has a chronic condition that affects and negatively impacts the cardiac system, respiratory system, or the musculoskeletal system.

So essentially, once they once they are sick at that age, then in interest of promoting animal safety and welfare, especially if it's a chronic debilitating condition, they will be forcibly retired at that point.

Um with uh thanks to UT library as far as the scholarly articles provided by them.

Uh the ambient temperature maximum limit that is currently within the code under section 35-204 F, it will be lowered from 95 degrees Fahrenheit to a maximum of 90 degrees Fahrenheit for geriatric horses.

And the on the lower end of that, the ambient temperature or wind chill factor, whichever is lower, the minimum limit shall be raised from a minimum of 20 degrees Fahrenheit to a minimum of 30 degrees Fahrenheit for geriatric horses.

Under point four, uh they shall not be permitted to pull a carriage at a speed faster than a walk.

And I don't think that that would be a particularly onerous thing.

Most of the time they are operated at a walk anyway.

Any faster than that would be considered a trot.

And uh a trot would be a little bit in excess of five miles per hour, more or less.

And uh generally speaking, carriage horses are operated at a more sedate pace, sightseeing and such and such.

Lastly, the geriatric horses that are under this section shall be identified as such by placing a silver stripe with tape, paint, or other similar method of marking on both sides of the horse's bridle that is at least two inches thick in diameter.

This is simply for uh assistance in identify identifying which horses are subject to these restrictions.

Uh the in pursuant to our uh review of a scholarly article about horse and mule welfare in Charleston, South Carolina.

Uh as far as hoof care and maintenance, they shall be inspected and maintained by failure at least every 30 days.

Records have to be kept by the owner of the dates and the name of the failure who shot the horse, and they're subject to inspection.

And second, if a horse does lose a shoe while working, an easy type boot, which is a temporary uh covering for the hoof, may be used to finish the scheduled work day.

After completion of that scheduled work day, the horse shall not be permitted to work until reshot and inspected by a farrier.

Also, in compliance with the um with the general generally uh accepted scholarly articles and veter veterinarians that I've spoken with, uh the Chattanooga chapter uh code chapter 35 section 35-203 C10 is amended and replaced with must have a Hineke body condition scale rating of four to seven, ranging from a four moderately thin to seven fleshy, and must not exhibit signs of exhaustion.

The Hineke body scale is a scale that determines the amount of mass fat composition, muscle composition of an animal.

It ranges from one to nine, one being emaciated to nine being extremely obese, and it goes from that scale.

Generally speaking, four to seven is a healthy weight and body composition for an animal to be at.

Section five, uh, this is uh regarding the temperature taking of horses.

Uh generally speaking, uh again, according to the scholarly articles that I have reviewed from the UT Law Library and my conversations with local veterinarians.

Uh each after each tour, the owner or handler must take the body temperature of the horse.

If the body temperature of the horse meets or exceeds 103 degrees Fahrenheit, which indicates that they are subject to heat exhausting and overheating, then they must be removed from duty until the until the temperature returns to a normal temperature of 101.5 degrees Fahrenheit or less.

If after two hours the horse's body temperature has not been lowered to that level, the owner handler shall take the horse to an emergency vet for suspicions of heat stroke or heat exhaustion.

Now relating to the pregnant mayors uh section uh that's amended under 35-203 C14.

Carriages shall not be pulled by stallions, pregnant mayors over 180 days of gestation or mayors that are within 180 days after folding.

So from conception up until 180 days, a mayor may work from that point on and until 180 days after foiling, the mayor shall not be permitted to pull a carriage within the city of Chattanooga.

This will give them the opportunity to uh recover from uh after birth and more importantly, uh prevent and minimize the risk of miscarriage.

Additionally, uh the any pregnant mayors that have been confirmed to be such shall have the same restrictions uh and light duty that are found under the previous section two for geriatric horses.

So they again pregnant mayors will also have a lighter workload in the same manner as a geriatric horse would have I welcome any uh questions or uh analysis by the council.

Okay, thank you.

Councilman Henderson, do you have anything to add?

Uh I think he covered it.

Councilman Elliott.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh, thank Councilman Henderson for bringing this up and thank you, sir, for um your input on this.

I just want to clarify we have talked to experts from Tennessee accent that says this is healthy for horses, correct?

Pregnant horses in particular.

As far as pregnant horses, I've called about three or four local veterinarians or local to the Hamilton uh county and Bradley County too, because I I called somebody from Cleveland.

And they uh the general consensus was that between 180 days to a hundred 240 days after uh conception, that that's when the break point for when it becomes too risky for a pregnant mayor to work.

Uh on the to error on the side of caution, um it's 180 days abstracted.

Perfect.

I just want that to be clear.

And last question, who um regulates this?

It was this would be under the passenger vehicle uh for higher void.

Okay, that meant by uh CPD investigator.

It was the same as passenger vehicles same board that regulates taxi cash.

Taxes.

Oh, okay.

That makes sense.

All right, all right.

That's it.

Thank you, madam chair.

Councilman Burrs.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh I think this is uh councilman Henderson.

My apologies.

Uh this question I think maybe for you.

This this may have been a topic that was discussed in the previous year.

So I'm I'm just trying to understand how this came before the council to begin with.

I mean, I look at this stuff and I think my gosh, this stuff seems like it would be common sense.

If I own a an animal, then I'm I'm gonna treat an animal a certain way, and especially if it's an animal that that does a workload like a carriage work pulls a carriage, that some of this stuff is just common sense, but obviously something triggered it, and I'm just trying to understand what triggered this to begin with.

Madam Chair, you want to put the all hands on that owner.

Do I need to push my push my button?

But let's see if I clear the queue.

My presets open discussion.

There we go.

Yep.

Okay.

So um this was back earlier in the year, one of the carriage company owners approached me with concerns about some of the amendments that we need that that she felt like needed to be made to the uh to the ordinance.

One in relationship to age, but then the other was the fact of allowing the pregnant mayors to be able to pull the carriages.

Uh so that's kind of how it started is is one of the carriage owners approaching me uh and talking to me about it in doing some research of my own, realized that these were amendments that probably needed to be made to our carriage ordinance.

So uh then I turned it over to the city attorney's office.

They did their research and confirmed basically the same thing that I had found out uh that these amendments probably probably need to be added for the protection of the horses that's pulling this carriages downtown.

Were there any accusations of abuse in that?

Is that to protect okay?

I'm just no no, there were there were there were no accusations.

So this is more preemptive, like let's let's put the cart before the horse.

Um that I just as I sat here and read this, I I it really made me a little sick to my stomach thinking that we we had some issues, but we're being more protective and preemptive.

Okay, thank you, Adam Chair.

That's all I have.

Councilman Clark.

Thank you, Madam.

To to your point, uh, Councilwoman Burns in other cities where there have been reported abuses toward animals like in New York and other places during the holiday season where carriage ridership is up.

Um I applaud Councilman Henderson for being proactive and saying, hey, you want we don't want to we want to learn those lessons from other cities and uh protect our horses during this holiday season.

Um but it happens and we just don't want it to happen here.

So good proactive anyway.

I just thought I'd put that context into play.

Thank you.

All right.

Um we have some planning items on first read.

We have an I these have all been uh deferred.

We have an item for district six, council members.

Yeah, I do not see the applicant here.

Um and um um most likely unless I see her for the business meeting, then I will defer it, request a deferral again.

Okay, councilman Clark.

Thank you, madam chair.

I've got a qu oh well.

Item E.

It's it's item E, but is it 2023?

I have two plans.

There's this planning and then this planning.

Why is it so we have uh we have some final reads okay and then we're looking at first reads?

Okay, I just want to make sure I'm going in the order where you are.

Okay, so this is under first read.

Okay.

Is that where you are, madam?

Correct, yes, 2025 0169.

Yes, ma'am.

Uh Karen, I've got a question that is that okay, Madam Chair.

Yeah, this is the appropriate time.

Thank you.

I want to, we've had discussions about this um as a sidebar, and I just want to make sure some of the language is correct in regard to the commercial portions of the building.

So there's the buildings that they repainted on the site.

For what I understand, I just want to be clear that that those buildings are currently zoned commercial because it reads from RN16 residential neighborhood zone and C C commercial corridors, uh commercial corridor zone to one uh one to the heavy industrial.

So are the buildings because I know that was something that we had questions about.

Are the buildings on the property included in the zone change?

And I'm gonna turn to my um colour map if you just give me a moment.

Okay, sorry, call you on that.

Um there, and I can um so there is the property, the front portion of the property, there are no buildings on the property in question being rezoned.

The front portion of the property is zoned C C the back portion is zoned residential, but the properties that front along Bonnie Oaks Drive are on separate parcels that are not part of this request.

Okay, I just want to be clear because it does say C C commercial, and I want to make sure it's very clear and distinct that that those buildings um are to remain commercial in that corridor.

The the buildings that currently front on Bonnie Oaks Drive are on different um on our maps are on different parcels and are still zone C C and not part of this requirement.

I just want to be clear now because as I read it, I'm thinking people will look at that and think it's all encompassing and not realizing it's the properties behind the buildings.

Yes.

Is that correct?

That's correct.

Okay.

And as we've discussed uh that I am okay with that with the conditions, are the conditions have they been submitted and ready to be read into the record, or do y'all have those uh the conditions are part of the ordinance when I click the link and I double elect them with what is represented on the slide.

So the planning version number two is a part of the link.

Correct.

Okay, thank you.

Uh that's the only clarity that I need.

The only thing I was concerned about was the environmental impact to South Chickamauga Creek.

And I at your recommendation, do you believe that we need to put some language in there that was that there's a knot or nuts that whatever they do in this industrial zone that it should not impact the environmental ecosystem of Chickamauga Creek.

What what would be your recommendation for that?

So the condition um the land use conditions are very, very limited for that zone.

And then I believe in talking with the applicant last week, the applicant mentioned I believe quarterly stormwater inspections.

Um, and so I I believe that that would address some of the concerns.

I'm looking at the applicant, it was quarterly stormwater inspections to help address some of the concerns.

And again, um, while this is close to the creek, the creek is um lower than the site.

There is the railroad track and some additional property before you get to the creek.

And and I and that so you don't recommend any specified language, and and I guess the concern when you hear the word heavy industrial, we have a we have a history in the city of sometimes dumping into waterways and causing environmental hazards, and so I'm being very particular and caution to send a message to the applicant that that is on our radar, and I guess my question again at your recommendation would it be wise to specify language or not?

I believe that the conditions are enough.

We did run these by LDO, and I would think if anyone in the neighborhood had a concern about activity, they should contact 311.

So we're protected in these conditions as written.

Yes, they're very restrictive.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Great.

Thank you, Karen.

Okay.

Um now, did you have anything on final read that you need pulled out?

Um, hold on, let me get to that because I do have another you have uh I don't know where I was.

Case number 0165 is in final read.

My intent is to take those as a package unless we need to pull anything out that is the Shalefort Road.

Uh I do have clarity for that.

I'm sorry, Karen.

Thank you, Madam Chair, for bringing that to my remembrance.

Um I did have an awesome opportunity to meet with Seth and Alan.

I'm sorry.

Alan, where is he?

There you go.

Um, and we are in agreement that we will maintain the lot in the front, which is the curb side appeal to my district to remain um commercial.

And you know, I'm happy to report if that's okay to disclose that that they have agreed um in some point down the road that they will begin working with us in the city of developing that as a commercial corridor, that the lots next to that one piece they were trying to zone commercial, everything around it is light industrial.

Uh Mr.

Seth Yerby said to us that he would probably move to make those all commercial so that we could develop it for the betterment of that district.

But as of now, uh, we will maintain the residential part where the flood zone is to be residential, and that he will use the other remaining pieces as industrial and pending some potential plant community planning.

I'll be opening to lifting that zoning restriction on the residential in the floodplain for light industrial when we have some planning about what that commercial development look like, kind of as an anchor and sparring development over in the Shalifer Road industrial complex or what have you.

So, anyway, so I'm I'm happy with that as well.

So you're okay, you're good for a second read.

Okay, we will take that as a package then.

Sorry, okay.

Um, economic development.

Um, an item district two, which looks fine.

Um some EIG changes.

Hit your light if you've got any questions, council.

Um, other resolutions are for parks and outdoors and public works.

Please hit your light if you have any questions about those.

Okay, moving on.

Let's take a look at council purchases, please, council.

Hit your light if you've got any questions.

Okay, seeing none, let's all take a look at future considerations, please.

Councilman Clark.

Um, Madam Chair, I'd like to bring the attention to the city attorney on planning items number seven, A, and B as it relates to the uh special exemptions for the permit for the liquor store proposal at 4850 Highway 58, suite 130.

Yes, sir.

Uh, can I have a discussion with that with Karen at the podium if you don't mind?

The question this was an applicant who had required and let me just say for the record, my questions and concern was the proximity of the parking lot to the Chattingham School for the Liberal Arts.

When this was initially proposed, we questioned where the measurement started from the parking lot or from the suite number 130.

Correct.

Were we able to get any conclusions on that?

So the um, and I'm making sure I have the right one because we have two.

The updated staff report um shows an RPA field review indicates the site meets a distance requirement and is from the existing rear door measured directly across the street to the it's this um near the CSLA property line.

So it shows that it is in um outside the 200 feet distance requirements, but it is from the because we did talk about the parking and the whole entirety of the lot.

The measurement is shown is from the existing rear door of the proposed units.

And what is the legal opinion versus the rear door?

And maybe this is something we can bring fill in, because this is where the ambiguity was.

What is the difference the why is it being measured from the rear door versus the parking lot?

Is that what the exemption is?

And I believe so um the language is or the exception, excuse me.

Um the applicant's property line on lease premises shall be construed to be the nearest point of a leasehold line, and so I believe the nearest point of that leasehold line is that existing rear door.

It's not it's not an exception to the rules related to liquor stores, but liquor stores require a special exception permit to be allowed to allow correct.

I'm sorry, thank you for that.

Yes, this is the only um special exceptions permit um in front of council.

Gotcha.

And I but the the conversations we were having was regarding what was the definition of the leasehold line.

Yes.

From the parking lot versus the rear door, and I think now you all have concluded that is indeed the rear door versus the parking lot.

Is that what you're telling me?

Is it this is why this application is that is what the report shows, and I believe we did have some discussion about amending um good the alcohol regulations, but I would apologize.

I just need to remind myself of where we are on that.

But yes, the distance requirement is from the rear door, not the entirety of the property at this point.

And this is in relation to item B under planning as well.

So it's the same address.

One says Bobby's wine and liquor.

Right.

But the permit, if someone could help me understand, so we get the special exceptions permit, and then you have the certificate of compliance.

Can you please speak to how those go together?

I guess the land development office and the folks in the um uh determination of distance here, and that it is legal under the code, and that is the requirement that at least there has to be five signatures of council members approving that location based upon that requirement.

And uh there is a special exception first, and then there is a requirement to sign that by the council to authorize that uh establishment to operate.

I'm inclined.

I I I have I have legal, I I need further legal uh guidance on the definition of the lease hold line as it relates from the rear door versus the parking lot.

Um and I don't know, Phil, what how that will impede this process?

I think the liquor store is too close to the school.

Okay, and I've spoken with the school officials and they're in agreement, and uh I'd like more dialogue and guidance from legal on this before I proceed.

I know this is on for future planning for January the 6th, but what is our runway as far as deferring it until have to be decided up?

I know there's a window where we have to decide on these or to automatically goes into there's a 60-day window that it has to be done within that time.

And I believe that Catherine McDonald um said the 60-day window closes after the meeting on the 13th.

Correct.

January the 13th?

But we can we did have discussions um what constitutes the leasehold line, including I think we had some discussion about the parking lot, they're using the parking lot, particularly have that rear parking lot.

So I think that um when we previously discussed that with the city attorney's office Phil wasn't present, so we can set up another meeting with him and catch him up to date on that discussion, and then um one of us can get back with you prior to the January 6th meeting.

And and at this point in time, RPA has done the measurements, they have determined based upon the measurements that the location is allowed, correct?

Right, the applicant provided a survey.

Yes, from the from the rear door.

That's correct.

Okay, I just want to be clear on that that that's my issue and the discrepancy I need further legal guidance on.

Okay.

And also there's a 60-day window, so today is the 12th.

So did this application come before 30 days ago, and we're just not hearing it or I would defer to the city attorney's office on when it came in and in the process up to now.

And um, I believe we've already responded to you by email concerning those dates.

Like today, yes, sir.

Okay.

Well, I haven't we've been in council meeting and strategic planning today, but the point is is that when these come to council, we have 60 days to decide.

And if it came today, which today being the 16th, then I have not had adequate enough time to review this in the 60 days I am allowed to do so.

Yes, and I apologize.

Let me um rephrase phrase the uh my answer.

I'm out of second incorrectly.

This is on the January 6th.

The city attorney's office places these on the agenda, and they sit under planning.

Um, and it was placed on the future considerations agenda for the six.

My understanding is that understanding you might need to defer more action.

The next meeting um in January, which would be the 13th, would be the last meeting prior to the 60 day that 60 day period running out.

Gotcha.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um for item 10a under parks, we'd like to invite um April Firth, our parks administrator up to give us an update on the Carter Park, Carver Park, excuse me, master plan.

Good afternoon, council.

Uh April administrator for Parks and Outdoor for the city.

Okay, we need you to make us cry.

Scott always made us cry.

I'll make you cry later.

I'm not asking for money.

No, no, you would make us cry with the vision.

Okay.

This presentation today is about formally adopting the master plan for George Washington Carver Park.

Oh, sorry, I forgot I was in control of this.

Okay.

Uh number one, because the REACH grant paid for the master plan, and this is a requirement of the REACH grant is to formally adopt this master plan.

And number two, because we do not currently have funding for this project.

So a master plan is extremely helpful when we do go searching for funding sources.

The need for revitalization, the research and community engagement led to several key factors.

The goal is to revitalize a safe, welcoming park that invites more usage, increased visibility and sight lines, and to serve not only as a park but as an education and artistic expression that respects the park's rich history.

So engagement, we did extensive engagement here.

And engagement included public works, neighborhood services, community development, and parks and outdoor.

We engage hundreds of residents through seven focus groups, two community meetings, and a large open house with 140 attendees.

Nice.

The top priorities were shade.

That's always the top priority for parks.

Shade, gathering and social spaces, multi-use pathways and site access, play spaces, um, and the play spaces being like active, nature-based, and age separated.

The lowest ranked categories were sports courts, indicating comparatively less weight in basketball, tennis, and pickleball when weighed against community gathering and connectivity goals.

Option one is the base park revitalization.

It's 10 million dollars.

Includes Great Lawn, Performance Pavilion, walking promenades, playgrounds, shade, picnic game pavilions, wetland boardwalks, and educational signage.

Number two is estimated at 15 million.

Adds organized organized sports facilities, renovated baseball fields with bleachers at the gym cotton field, and new multi-use sports courts.

Number three is 22 million, adds multi-use fields, so soccer, football, golf practice zone, which honors the site's history as the as the first black golf course in the city of Chattanooga.

Um learning trails and exercise stations.

And then number four is 26 million, and it adds everything, it's everything, so everything and an aquatics facility.

What was really cool about this, and is that it was out of this process that we realized the need for lights at the Jim Cotton ball field.

So I don't know if you know or if you've heard about this.

It's one of the first things I heard about was that the residents have to use their headlights to be able to light up this ball field for the kids to play after dark.

Um so outside of this, it's it outside of this, we are actually using the deferred maintenance that this council approved for us.

We're actually using that to install those lights in early of twenty twenty six.

So pretty excited about that.

So I want to make it very clear.

Do you have any questions or comments, Council?

Okay.

Oh, looks like do you have to raise your hand?

No.

No, I just want to say thank you to this call.

Thank you.

Okay, wonderful.

Thank you, Council.

Uh, do we have any other questions related to future considerations?

All right, seeing none, we do not have a two week agenda because City Council, Chattanooga City Council will be on hiatus through January sixth, twenty twenty six.

Um, we will return that day.

We will recess till five o'clock.

Thank you.

We don't need one, no.

All right, we are back in session.

Madam Clerk, will you please read items seven A and B.

Item A.

In ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Code, part two, chapter two to delete and update Article 14 regarding communications and audit process of the audit committee following prior revisions to the Chattanooga City Charter sections three point one eleven through three point one eighteen and the deletion of charter section eight point fifteen of the charter.

Item B in ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Call, part two, chapter Chapter two, Article fifteen, whistleblower protection by revising sections two seven eighty-two two seven eighty three E and two seven eighty-four E relative to the audit committee.

Thank you.

Council got a motion on the floor to approve.

Can I get a second?

Thank you.

With a proper second.

Do we have any questions or comments?

All in favor?

Motion passes.

That's my fault.

Sorry.

Okay, you got these are general reading items?

Yes, I'm I'm down the thing.

Sorry, but I'm sure.

All right.

Planning items C through I, please.

Item C.

In order to amend Chattanooga City Code, part two, chapter thirty eight zoning ordinance.

So it's the reasonable properties located at 4571, 4603, 4637, 4659, 4685 and 4711, Ravenia Lane from C C commercial corridor zone.

And T R M three, traditional neighborhood residential zone to R N one three residential neighborhood zone.

Item D in order to swim in Chattanooga City call.

Part two, chapter 30 days on the order, so it's a reasonable property located at nine fifteen Barton Avenue from R and two residential neighborhood zone to C in neighborhood commercial zone, so to certain conditions.

Item E, in ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Code, part two, chapter 38 zoning ordinance, so it's a rezoned properties located at 6112 and 6118 Higgs and Pike from RN16 residential neighborhood zone to RN3 residential neighborhood zone subject to certain conditions.

Item F in ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Code Part 2, Chap 38 zoning ordinance, so it's a rezoned property is located at 4100 and 4200 blocks of Shallowford Road from RN16 residence and neighborhood zone to IL industrial light zone subject to certain conditions.

Item G, in order to amend Chattanooga City Code, part two.

Chapter 38 zoning ordinance, so it's the lift condition number one and amend condition number three of ordinance number one three oh four three, a previous case number two thousand sixteen zero three five for part of a property located at 8595 Hilltop Drive, subject to certain conditions.

Item H in ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Code Part 2, Chap 38 zoning ordinance so as to rezone property located at 1309 Chamberlain Avenue from RN15 Residential Neighborhood Zone to TRN3 traditional residential neighborhood zone subject certain conditions.

Item I in order in ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Code Part 2, Chap 38 zoning ordinance as adopted by ordinance number 14137 on July 23rd, 2024 to add a special exceptions permit for a reception facility and add a standalone drive-through facility use.

Thank you, Nicole.

Councilor, can I get a motion?

Approved.

Second.

Thank you.

We have a motion on the floor to approve these items with a proper second.

If you have any questions or comments, please hit your light.

All in favor, opposed.

Motion passes.

Ordinance under first reading.

Item A, please.

In ordinance de-annexing certain property owned by Raside Land and Development Company LLC for the tenant Chick-fil-A restaurant located at 8883 Olee Highway with it in the city of Chattanooga in Hamilton County, Tennessee, which is currently referenced as tax map number 131082.1A, more fully described in the attached map.

Council, you will remember we received a recommendation from our attorney based on some of the conversation that's ongoing on this application.

Thank you.

Council, we have a motion on the floor to deny with a proper second.

Do we have any questions or comments?

Mr.

Attorney, for the record, would you go ahead and just state again the rationale for this denial?

The reason for this denial is there can be an adjustment of the boundaries between the city of Chattanooga and the city of Collegedale to allow this property to be subject to a municipality like the Chick-fil-A property that it adjoins.

So at the request of the city of Collegedale, we will do a boundary adjustment in lieu of a DNA de annexation ordinance.

Thank you very much.

Councilmember, I just want to confirm the applicant is not here, correct?

Is the applicant here?

Do we have a representative from the city of Collegedale here?

We do not.

Okay, thank you, Madam Chair.

We'll submit that at a reasonable time here for you on adjustment of boundaries by resolution.

Okay, thank you very much.

Okay.

All in favor of the motion to deny item A.

Aye.

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Planning item C, please.

Oh, let's not let's do B.

Sorry.

I first had on my notes and I just skipped right over it.

Um item B, please.

In ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Code, part two, chapter 35, Article 6, horse drawn carriages, section 35186, definitions, section 35203, requirements for horses and service, and section 35204, animal working conditions.

Councilman Henderson.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

First of all, I'd like to thank my co-sponsors on the special legislation.

And with that, I move for approval.

Second.

Thank you, Council.

We have a motion on the floor to approve with a proper second.

Do we have any questions or comments?

All in favor?

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Item C, please.

In ordinance to amend Chattanooga City Code, part two, chapter 38 zoning ordinance.

So it's the rezone property located at 5813 Lee Highway from CC Commercial Corridor Zone to CR Regional Commercial Zone.

Thank you.

This is planning case 2025 0119.

Is the applicant present?

Do we have any opposition present?

Councilman Burns, this is in your district.

I don't see an applicant or opposition.

Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to defer until January 20th, please.

Okay.

All right, council.

We have a motion on the floor to defer until January 20th, 2026.

Can I get a second?

Thank you.

We have a proper second for that motion.

Do we have any questions or comments?

All in favor of deferring this item until January 20th, 2026.

Aye.

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Item D, please.

Chap 38 zoning ordinance.

So it's a lift condition number one from ordinance number 13576, the previous case number.

2019 0133 on property located at 1305 Henderson Avenue.

Tax map number 146 JD 012 only, subject to the following conditions shall remain.

Thank you.

This is case number 2025 0151.

Is the applicant present?

Do we have any opposition present?

Councilman Elliott, this is in your district.

I do not see an applicant or opposition.

Um this particular uh applicant has yet to reach out to myself or the neighborhood.

Um this development was rezoned several years ago without any activity leaving the community in limbo.

And uh I really hope going forward, this particular applicant will be a better community partner to make sure that the Highland Park community community can be leaned in on what growth and development looks like.

So with that, I move to deny.

All right, thank you, Council.

We have a motion on the floor to deny with the proper second.

Do you have any further questions or comments?

All in favor of denial, all right.

Opposed, motion to deny passes.

Item E, please.

In ordinance to amend 102 call part two, chapter 38 zoning ordinance so as to rezone property located at 4272 Bonnie Oaks Drive from RHN 16 residential neighborhood zone and CC commercial corridor zone to IH industrial heavy zone subject to certain conditions.

Thank you.

This is case 2025 0169.

Is the applicant present?

Do we have any opposition present?

Thank you.

Um we have an applicant and we have opposition, so I'll let you guys know what the process is.

The applicant will be invited to come up and speak for seven minutes on the project.

Opposition then will have nine minutes.

Um if you have more than one person, please do share that nine minutes amongst yourselves, and then we'll invite the applicant back up for a two-minute rebuttal.

So everyone has equal time if they so wish.

So if the applicant uh plan to give us an open before we start with Mr.

Elliott, would you like Councilman Elliott?

Would you like a presentation?

If in the clock I'm so sorry.

Let me send this way.

Councilman Clark, do you want a presentation?

I'm sorry.

Yeah, we've had a lot of presentations on it.

Okay, I'm I'm sorry.

Thank you, Mike Price, MAP Engineers representing the uh applicant groundscapes.

So this site has been used as a construction laydown yard since uh the early 2000, late uh late 1990s, uh, for some 20 plus years.

It was uh operated by McDaniel and son, and then groundscapes purchases approximately three years ago.

They have been using it for the storage of mulch, storm pipes, gravel, basically uh normal material that is used during the course of construction.

There is no industrial use that is part of this application.

Matter of fact, there are protections that are set in place that would not uh allow those sort of activities that would be obnoxious to the neighbors.

We have contacted each of the neighbors that we are adjoining.

We have given them laminated cards that has the company's name and phone number on it and who to contact in the event that there is something that occurs that would be uh disturbing the neighbors uh that are there, but again, the operation has been in effect all these years.

It's no different than what has already been taking place, just simply an expansion, but not towards Bonnie Oaks, towards the railroad track, and then further back away from Bonnie Oaks.

None of the buildings that are currently uh there existing on the property will be impacted by this.

They will continue to remain CC zone, commercial zone.

So we believe with the landscape buffer requirements.

We did do also a uh a noise analysis basically, which uh showed that at nine o'clock in the morning you get far more noise from the traffic on Bonnie Oaks and what you would ever hear from this operation.

So we don't see this as being a nuisance, it's not adding an objectionable use.

These are not materials that will be uh polluting the environment and creating issues as it relates to South Chick Creek.

We will have to still do water quality requirements as it relates to the land development office.

So we think with all of the uniqueness of this site located next to the railroad track at the far back of the property where you can't see it from Bonnie Oaks, it's really a tucked away spot, which is the perfect use as it relates to these small uh construction materials that would be utilized on site.

So with that, we think this is a great use because we really don't see any other viable use that could really go back in there.

So if there's any questions, happy to answer those.

I think we're good.

So we'll go ahead and invite the opposition to come up and speak.

You'll have not if you'd like to.

You'll have uh nine minutes oh, and please state your name for the record.

Good afternoon.

I'm Jeanette Starzik for the record.

Um I represent the Waterhaven um community.

I'm the homeowners association president and have recently been speaking with um uh nearby homeowners association president from Battery Heights.

Um she's actually the one that made us aware of this.

Uh we had no idea any of this was happening.

Um just became aware of it a few days ago.

And it's not necessarily that we're uh completely opposed to this.

We just have a lot of questions and don't have the information because we were not aware and um have not been, you know, put in touch with resources to get answers to those concerns.

Um so what we were basically asking for was a delay of council vote um just so that those concerns could be addressed.

Um I understand that there are some considerations that are fairly specific that are being added to the proposal, and we do appreciate the um planning commission's work, obviously, uh and trying to make sure that every concern like that for the the health of the creek and the surrounding residents uh is taken into consideration, but um we just want to be sure that everything is buttoned up so that if, for instance, um the property changes hands in the future with a change in zoning to what we understand is supposed to be um heavy industrial zoning, that opens things up quite a bit uh for things that would not necessarily be beneficial for the surrounding communities.

Um so that was our main thing.

We just are still um we have a lot of questions, basically a lot of questions and concerns.

So uh, like I said, uh Waterhaven is just down the street.

We've got 135 homes.

Welcome Home Chattanooga is a hospice uh organization, they've raised concerns.

The South Chickamauga Creek Um Alliance has raised concerns, as I said, Battery Heights.

Um, you know, so I'm just kind of thinking off the top of my head of these people that wish to have their concerns addressed.

So um we know that the the entire property is not up for rezoning.

We support the idea of the commercial zoning as is.

Uh I I've heard that that's important um to council that we have um commercial zoning that benefits the surrounding community, and so we're certainly not against that at all.

Um, I guess one of my main questions, and and maybe Mr.

Price can answer this.

If if such a development um or or usage has been in place for so long, um, I I was not aware it's been used for this for 20 years, certainly.

Uh, but if it's been used in this way already for so long, why are we asking for rezoning now?

Would be one question.

And my second question would be what is it that the uh groundscapes owner wishes to do that he's not allowed to do with the current zoning.

Um commercial landscaping business.

Um I believe he's been doing that already three miles away on Stewart Street.

So I think um the precedent is there already, but basically, why can't he do that with the current zoning?

Um with the industrial, the heavy industrial at that, it's not even light industrial without specific conditions.

It's our understanding just with the very little bit of research that we've had the time to do, that it opens things up to things uh that could have noise, smell, vibration, uh the example of an asphalt plant, for instance, was mentioned, or you know, chemical companies or just all sorts of things that wouldn't necessarily be what the current owner is proposing, uh, but perhaps that might be a concern in the future if the zoning is changed at this time.

Um, and the other thing is if the conditions is if the list of conditions is specific to address concerns like that, that's wonderful, provided that everybody is aware that uh change is taking place in the future.

Like, for instance, we had no idea this was happening.

Uh we just happened to find out a few days ago.

So, for instance, if something like an asphalt plant tries to go in in the future, you know, we may not know about it, therefore we wouldn't be able to raise concerns and have them addressed if the zoning is already for heavy industrial.

So I think I've stated my main points.

Uh, but yeah, we're not necessarily saying that we're opposed to the idea completely, but we were hoping that you could um allow a deferral on the vote just because there are literally hundreds of people that have raised concerns and questions.

Um there have been emails and phone calls and things.

Um, and so I guess I'm the lone person here standing representing all of those people.

So yeah.

All right, thank you.

Thank you for your time.

Okay.

Well, invite the applicant to come back up.

You'll have two minutes for a rebuttal and potentially to answer some of the questions that the opposition raised.

Thank you.

So uh Water Haven is a great development.

I was both the engineer and one of the developers involved in that one years ago.

So uh hopefully everybody is still enjoying the uh the quiet quaintness of uh of that development.

Um so as it relates to some of the questions that Ms.

Durzik and uh asked, so changing hands doesn't change the zoning, it always stays in effect regardless of ownership.

The way that the zoning code is written, we couldn't go light industrial because you have to be able to make sales out of a building, and that's not the intent.

We don't want to sell, we want to store.

So that forced us to go into the heavy industrial.

That's why uh Councilman Clark has gone to great lengths to ensure that there are a number of conditions working with staff that ensures that moving forward, this doesn't open the box for an ant uh asphalt plant or chemical plant or any other type of operations.

Very specific that this is construction materials only, and you really can't use it for any other use except which is really what has been used for 20 plus years uh out of that.

Um I would also uh point out that given that we have been, I think, good neighbors, and we have a long history here.

The only reason that we're asking for this is to expand the operation further back away from uh 58 because that property is currently zone residential, so you can't use a residential zone for these types of uses.

That's the reason for the request.

Uh and I'll be happy to meet you after the meeting to discuss further regardless of whatever decision that that the uh that the council makes, I'm happy to talk with you afterwards and and answer any other questions that you might have uh as it relates to this.

If there's any questions, happy to answer those now.

Councilman Clark.

Thank you.

I do I do want to address uh some of your concerns that we have belabored for weeks on this.

And Waterhaven is not in District 5.

So the actual the neighborhoods that are actually the most impacted, which includes mine.

I live in Cherokee Woods, there's Hillcrest Heights and Galen Heights, and we've had hundreds, those are also neighborhoods that are larger than yours.

And we've had discussions regarding the conditions, the concerns with the noise.

Um, and they are educated about what this is, and which is not for me enough to defer any longer because the history, Mike, if you were uh if most of you recall on this, we were having shootings, and you should know that living in Waterhaven, they bought it, cleaned it up, and got rid of all the clubs in that commercial area, which are going to remain commercial buildings for commercial development we need in that area.

Um so to be informed, I encourage your neighbors to go back and look at all the YouTube videos of the zoning cases, the planning commissions, the discussions about all the conditions we put on this, and it would answer most of your concerns that you brought up.

And I would encourage you guys to be more engaged in that process.

For me, that's not enough to defer.

I think you guys have checked all of our boxes, all of our concerns, and that you all purchased this, made it better, cleaned it up, and got rid of the nuisance we were having in Bonnie Oaks right there that I think that your neighborhood would appreciate actually, which is the furthest from the actually impacted neighborhoods of Galen Heights, Cherokee Woods, and Hillcrest Heights are actually are in District 5.

Uh, so I appreciate what you all are doing with the conditions.

Um, even the noise analysis that you did for the record, the cars are noisier, the trains and the airports are noisier than what they're gonna be doing on their site.

There's no impact to any of the Water Haven community, which is the furthest neighborhood on the lake on the river.

So I want to be clear on that.

So there's not hundreds of people.

Uh there are hundreds of people in the impacted neighborhoods that are actually educated and aware of what this is, and we appreciate the fact that uh groundscape's concepts have come in and purchased the property and are preserving it for commercial development.

And I would hope Waterhaven would join those efforts with the rest of the communities in that impacted area.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um, I'm I'm an advocate for constituents, and if there's one person that has um a concern, um, then I'm always in favor of deferring for a week or maybe two because it's not.

Is it anything that you need to do on that property that would hinder you from waiting another week or two in order to have this comment conversation with those that are still not clear about?

There is not one thing that I think as an option that uh we have seen sometimes occur is that council could take action tonight.

We could meet if they have further objections, they could bring that up in second reading just as an option.

Council, I would like to entertain a motion.

I'd like to make a motion to approve first reader.

Okay, council.

We have a motion on the floor to approve with a proper second.

Do we have any further questions or comments?

Councilmember.

Um thank you, Chairwoman Hill.

Um, what are the conditions?

You I know you mentioned we talked about it a little bit in the earlier meeting.

What are the can remind me of the conditions?

Mike, would you or can we whoever thank you?

Hours of operation to be limited to between 7 a.m.

and 6 p.m.

Allowable uses within the proposed IH zone are to be limited to outdoor storage yards and/or places of worship, and the outdoor storage yard use shall be further limited to storage and sales of landscaping and construction materials consisting of erosion control products, drainage pipe tools, rebar gravel, topsoil, mulch, and other like materials and supplies typically involved with landscape and construction supply only, as well as typical equipment used in the loading and loading of these materials such as excavators, wheel loaders, skid stairs, trucks, etc.

Thank you, Karen.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, do we have any further questions or comments?

All in favor of approval?

Aye.

Opposed?

Aye.

Motion passes.

We have one nay.

Moving into resolutions.

Economic development item A, please.

A resolution authorizing the administrator for the Department of Economic Development to enter into a premises use agreement with Tennessee River Soccer, DBA, North River Soccer, and substantially the form attached for the use of the soccer facility on a portion of tax map number 119 HA003.01 for a term of one year with annual rent of one dollar, one dollar with document execution and use of the premises subject to the tenants' compliance with all insurance requirements and the premises use agreement.

Move this approved.

Thank you.

Council, we have a motion on the floor to approve with the proper second.

Do we have any questions or comments?

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed?

Motion passes.

Item B, please.

And resolution authorizing the revisions to the employee information guide.

Section 9.11.

Call back pay to double call back pay to comply with budget amendment passed by city council on September 9, 2025 for immediate implementation and to be applied retroactively to July 1, 2025.

Second.

Thank you.

Council, we have a motion on the floor to approve with the proper second.

Do I have any questions or comments?

All in favor?

Proposed.

Motion passes.

Parks and outdoors items C and D, please.

Item C.

A resolution request to accept funds from the state of Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation and Local Parks Acquisition Fund for the purchase of the Mountain Creek quarry for use as a part in the amount of 1,740,000 dollars.

Item D, a resolution authorizing payment to the downtown Chattanooga Alliance DCA from January 1, 2026 through December 31, 2026 for an amount not to exceed 150,000.

Thank you.

Council, we have a motion on the floor to approve with the proper second.

Do I have any questions or comments?

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed?

Motion passes.

Public works items E and F, please.

Item E.

And resolution authorizing the administrator for the Department of Public Works to approve change order number one final to contract number R22014201 summit of software concession stands ventilation with J.

Brennan Construction Inc.

of Rocky Face, Georgia for structural modifications to the original design and the addition of GLCI breakers and relay receptacles for an increased amount of $55,678 and 95 cents for a revised contract amount of 432,964 and 88 cents.

Item F, a resolution authorizing administrative for the Department of Public Works to approve change order number one final to contract number E21022201 walked into building ACM abatement and mole remediation with ELOOC Green Company Inc.

of Newmarket, Tennessee for the removal of two additional ACM areas and the additional storage of therapeutic recreation materials not previously identified within the contract for an increased amount of 23,400 with a revised contract amount of 117,942.55 cents.

We've been approved.

Thank you.

Council, we have a motion on the floor to approve with a proper second.

Do we have any questions or comments?

All in favor?

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Let's move on to purchases, please.

Good evening, Council.

Hello.

We have five purchases recommended for approval this evening.

The first is for purchasing.

This is a new blanket agreement for security gauge services.

This will be a four-year agreement not to exceed one million dollars annually.

The award will go to Collins Protective Services as the best bid.

Fire, this is a one-time purchase of Mercedes Fire hose.

The sole source purchase from Tennessee fire equipment in the is in the amount of $61,008.

Wastewater year three renewal.

NABCO has requested a 4% increase due to the cost of wages and benefits.

The new estimated annual spend will be $2,080,000.

Wastewater has approved the increase.

Fire, this is a two-year renewal.

Siddins Martin Emergency Group has requested a 5% increase due to the increased cost of raw material.

The new estimated annual spend will be $945,000.

The fire department has approved the increase.

The next one is wastewater.

This is a one-time purchase of a member fee.

Call before you dig.

The sole source from Tennessee One call system is in the amount of $50,135.72 cents.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Council, we have a motion on the floor to approve with a proper second.

Do we have any questions or comments?

I would like to add that related to the Collins Protective Services Agreement that I really appreciate the work that you and Kevin and I believe HR did to put together the requirements for the expectations for behavior for those security guards.

It made me feel a lot better about this contract, and I know that was that took effort on y'all's part, and I want you to know I appreciate it.

Um do we have any other questions or comments?

All in favor?

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Okay, I have um three RFP format deter determinations to report this evening.

The first one is for economic development.

Each had an ago redevelop redevelopment economic economic development is seeking the highest quality developer to maximize the Tubman site potential.

The second one is for technology services, pension administration software.

The city is seeking a modern pension management platform to replace the current manual process.

And the third one is for wastewater, it's a thermal drying services.

Wastewater is seeking services for thermal drying services for biosolids produced at their facility.

Council, can I get a motion to approve the RFE format recommendation?

Second.

Thank you.

We have a motion on the floor to approve those.

Does anyone have a question?

We also have a proper second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Thank you.

Okay, council.

Let's do some committee reports.

Councilman Elliott.

Council Woman Burrs.

No report.

Councilman Henderson.

Thank you, Madam.

Uh, we will be having a public safety committee meeting on January the 6th, where we'll have a presentation by the fire chief.

Uh Chief Knowles.

Thank you.

Councilman Davis.

No report.

Councilman Harvey.

No report.

Councilman Clark.

No report.

Vice Chairwoman Noel.

No report.

All right.

Thank you all very much.

I would like to reiterate that the Chattanooga City Council will be on hiatus through January 6th, 2026.

If we have any constituents that have needs, the city will of course continue to be here for you.

And 311 is an excellent resource if you have an emergency, please call 911.

Now we'd like to welcome anyone who is here who would like to address the council.

If you are here and would like to address the council, please go ahead and line up behind the podium.

I'm watching.

If if we have anyone, our attorney will read the rules.

Here we go.

Okay.

Line up behind the podium and listen while our attorney reads the rules.

And at the end of each council business meeting, the chair will recognize members of the public who wish to address the council.

And here's your rules.

Each speaker wishing to address the council can only be recognized at the microphone up front for that purpose.

Can't have more than three minutes to speak.

And you can address the council only upon matters within their legislative and quasi judicial authority and not upon matters which are not under their authority or regulated by other governmental bodies or agencies.

Do not engage in any vulgar or obscene language, nor use the floor to personally attack or personally denigrate others and address your comments to the council as a whole and not towards individual council members.

And lastly, do not engage in disorderly conduct or disrupting a public meeting, which is prohibited by Tennessee law.

And someone commits that offense if a person substantially obstructs or interferes with the meeting by physical action or verbal utterance with the intent to prevent or disrupt a lawful meeting or gathering.

Having stated those rules, please go ahead, ma'am.

Please give your name.

Good afternoon, Council.

Um and Merry Christmas and happy Hanukkah to all of you in advance.

Anna Galladay, District 8.

Um, I have two um quick points.

The first is I just want to be on the record at how disappointed I am in the city that they have ended their contract with Orange Grove for recycling um employment.

Umrange Grove has been participating and working at our recycling centers for 30 years now, and not having those folks with disabilities as contributing members of our community is disappointing to me.

Um I know that Jeremy is on record as saying that um Orange Grove can apply for a contract again when the contract comes back up, um, but it's disappointing to me that for a certain period of months in the year of 2026, we won't have Orange Grove members working at our facilities.

Um the second thing I want to address is actually um split between District 8 and District 7.

Um there is a railroad underpass um on Main Street that is between Slayton Street and Madison Street.

Um it's directly off of Central Avenue.

Um, and it is the um underpass that is one of the only corridors and points of access into both the south side and downtown between 14th Street to the north and 23rd Street all the way to the south.

And because this is a bridge, um, it's got a full concrete barrier wall that requires the eastbound drivers and the westbound drivers to kind of stay on their side of the tunnel when they go underneath it.

Um the city has maintained the graffiti that pops up on this tunnel, but has not for the entire time that I've lived in Park Central and have walked to and from the south side for the last five years, maintain the lighting.

And on there are six lights on each side of the tunnel.

Um six lights on the eastbound side and six lights on the westbound side.

Um on the eastbound side, only two of those lights are operational, and the plastic covering that covers them is so dirty from the trains.

I'm sure dropping dirt from overhead that the lights are more or less not operational.

On the westbound side, the six lights that are in that tunnel have not been in operation for the last four years.

We have folks that rent Airbnbs in Park Central, they walk to the south side.

All of us that live there walk to the south side all the time.

And it is a really dark and dangerous corridor under that tunnel.

Um, it is not safe for folks, and um, with the amount of bike traffic and the amount of pedestrian traffic in that part of town, um, it would be really beneficial to see if we could get that lighting fixed.

Um, and I'm asking both on behalf of me and on behalf of the newly established Park Central Neighborhood Association.

Thank you.

Um you get with Anna and talk about that.

It sounds like we may have a who's on first with the railroad owning the property and uh it's one of those that's not quite as easy as we'd like it to be, is my hypothesis there.

Um do we have anyone else who'd like to address the council while we're here this evening?

Um my esteemed colleague pointed out to me that the council will be returning on January 6th.

So we will have a meeting on January 6th.

Um through so we'll be through January 5th on hiatus through January 5th and returning on January 6th.

Thank you very much.

English major.

I should have had that.

Should have had it.

All right.

Well, um, do we have any other business council?

If not, can I I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn?

All in favor of adjourning?

We are adjourned.

Merry Christmas.

Happy Hanukkah, everyone, I think.