The uh July twenty seventh meeting of the health education housing facilities board and speech hadn't got order.

This is a special called meeting.

Some of motions are a second.

Second discussion on the minutes.

Oh, then move that we uh just dispense with the minutes and bring that to the next meeting.

Is that all right?

Can I do that without a vote?

Okay.

Yes, sir.

You act like you know what you're telling me.

I can do.

I'm glad you can't see her face.

Okay.

So then that we will hold the minutes of the July regular meeting till the next meeting.

Okay.

Okay.

Uh we always allow persons who want to address the board to speak before the board meeting.

Once the board gets into its agenda, the discussion is between the person presenting and the board.

Is there anyone that would like to address the board or the community before we start?

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, board members.

Uh, my name's Joe Kelly.

I'm the general counsel for the Chattanooga Housing Authority.

Uh, because a number of questions have arisen this morning uh regarding some of the projects on today's agenda.

CHA would like to clarify uh what is and what is not being requested today.

Uh the Chattanooga Housing Authority related items on today's HEB agenda are preliminary procedural steps that are required by federal tax law and the Tennessee Housing Development Agency.

There was federal guidance issued by HUD in May that established an August 10th deadline for housing authorities nationwide to preserve eligibility for federal rental assistance resources that were already awarded to them.

Today's public hearing and the related resolutions exist solely uh to meet the federal deadline and keep those resources available to Chattanooga.

They are placeholders that preserve options, not approvals of any project.

Uh today's actions do not approve any development, issue any bonds, commit any funds, or authorize any construction.

Uh the dollar amounts referenced are not uh to exceed ceilings required uh by federal notice rules.

They are not budgets, financing commitments, or indications of project scale.

Uh before any proposed development uh could move forward, it would be required to complete its own full review process, including rezoning and land use approvals uh where applicable, uh community and neighborhood input and site plan review and separate approvals and competitive financing awards from HUD and THDA from the city of Chattanooga and other uh local agencies.

None of those steps have occurred, uh, and nothing on today's agenda changes that uh this is again merely to preserve uh the debill uh the ability to deploy these federal resources in the future, which a net present value of them is somewhere around the neighborhood of 300 million.

So we are very keen on preserving uh those benefits for the city.

Uh CHA's uh committed to transparency and to engaging uh residents and neighborhood stakeholders before any specific development advances, and we welcome questions from the community and and media uh throughout the process.

Uh um I'm gonna say this, and uh Joe, thank you for that, and you keep me straight.

TEFA hearing is basically a public hearing, let the public know what is being thought about being done.

It is not an approval process.

So today we have I believe eight, if I could count it correctly, such projects that are being um brought to our attention that may get done at some point in time if they get through the approval process, but this is not it's only that to let the public know what is being thought about being done.

Is that a that's that's correct?

And uh the only thing.

You gave all the legal stuff.

I'm just giving the layman that's right, and the only reason we're proceeding now is that HUD at the federal level has given us a deadline to make to check a certain box, yeah, and this is the box that we have to to check, and it's really an administrative step, not anything indicating that any particular project going forward.

Other thing, and you help me with this, yes, sir, is that this is more of a the the process they hope to go through is to acquire federal funds is not a commitment on this on the city of this amount of money to for a project, no sir, not on the city.

Okay, all right.

That I want you to understand that because if when you hear 300 million, then people go, okay, what's that?

How's that gonna affect me as a taxpayer?

It doesn't affect us.

That does that has no effect on any local taxpayer.

That's money that has already been uh allotted to Chattanooga, and we're just taking steps uh to preserve that allotment from the federal government.

Okay.

Given that you've heard that, does anybody now have any questions you'd like to raise or speak before we get into any of these?

Giving you a second chance.

Yes, sir.

Go ahead.

Oh, I'm sorry, we got two.

I'm glad I didn't see you raise your hands.

I live at 729 cheer, Cove Road.

My councilman is Chip uh Henderson.

Uh Chip and I have been in conversation today.

We only learned about this meeting last night around eight or nine.

Uh Chip one uh would like to be here, but because of the compression of the schedule, he wasn't able to come.

He so he gave me something to say to you.

One is is that this transparency uh is real important, and I think some misinformation came out, and I'd like to thank you for clarifying what the purpose of this meeting is.

There are other uh meetings and bureaucracies here within the city government that have a say on this, and I'm afraid it got off to a wrong start, and people thought that maybe this was a done deal when in actuality it is only the first step because you have to do it.

And we all and I understand that, my folks understand that.

Chip understands that.

The other part of it is of course we've alluded to other bureaucracies or other agencies in the city that have a have a cut on this.

I'm an old military officer, I know how to do staffing, and everybody gets a cut on the project as it goes through and it gets changed and and modified.

So we'd like to thank you for that too, and and we know that you'll keep that in mind.

So uh thank you for the explanation.

It was good.

Uh please put that out in some fashion so people know what's going on so they don't get I was gonna say some military term there, so that they will not be enthused in the wrong direction, and that would be helpful.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for uh uh representing Chip and ask him that he's happy to call myself or Phil if he has any further questions, okay?

Sure, and I wouldn't say I would represent him, that would be scary.

So uh I only impaired words that he put in my mouth not representing him.

Okay.

Now, by the way, though, we have Horse Creek Farms one and two that have been identified here.

That's over 200 households.

Oxford, I think, has come today.

I don't know how long how big year group is.

They're directly affected by this project, and they want to be here and hear what's going on.

And and then we have friends of Mountain Creek, which is the entire corridor that's affected by all of us, too.

So we have a great interest in what's going on with this piece of property in this project.

Well, and I would just tell you um, thank you for all of you in coming and keeping up with going on, and as this process continues, please feel free to follow up with um the appropriate part, whether it be the housing authority or whoever, so they can know, and then as this goes down the pike, we certainly want to make sure that the public is aware and hear.

I think it's important for the government to hear from the people so that we can make sure that we understand as one small piece of that uh uh concern or uh thoughts on it, because it's important that that we make decisions that are best for our community, and community's input is valuable for that.

We're we'll have a meeting on the third uh with the developer as well as with uh Ms.

Borgus and uh the people in that big section that have an interest in stuff will get it straight from the horse's mouth, hopefully there, and then they'll be able to do that.

But we understand what your purpose is now.

We did not before the meeting began, and I really appreciate that.

That was very good.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah, I'll read what we got here in the evidence.

But before you just I'll get to you, hold one second.

Yeah, just gonna make one statement here.

We actually received at 9 43 this morning a notification from uh CBL that they learned of this agenda item through an article published in the Chattanoogan yesterday, and when it came to their attention, they requested to have the item removed.

Uh CBL did engage in conversations with LGG in the past, but did not have a deal with them, or are pursuing a deal with them now.

So we'll have some discussion.

Those are items G and H here a little bit later on, but just wanted to make sure we've read that in for the record.

Okay.

Yes, ma'am.

If you want to identify yourself and thank you again for coming.

Yes, I'm Janice Gooden.

Live in District 8 of the city.

I read the legal notices, but I must say I got a little confused.

I would have been here last week, but maybe the notices were so close together, I thought that was a cancellation.

And this would be the meeting.

But one of the items uh that you discussed was Hatton Towers.

So I'd like some clarity on when there's a concern, you know, who addresses it.

Is it this board?

Is it the city?

Uh is it code enforcement?

Um, because you see things on social media, and the first thing is go to city council, they'll fix it.

Um I'm gonna let you try to address that if you could.

Miss Janice, uh the the this board actually has a pilot with them.

They have a separate uh company that is the leaseholder for that company that is involved in their operations, and it is a 40-year lease at this point in time.

So uh if you bring uh comments to us in that regard, we will get them passed on directly to them and hopefully get them resolved here for the people that live in that location.

But uh that that entity has a 40-year lease at this point in time for the operation, not this board.

But I I think that part of what she was asking is and I you you you correct me if I'm I'm not gonna speak for you, but I think part of what I heard her ask is that if someone has a question about an existing project, where do they direct that?

Is that was that part of your question?

Well, it is part of my question.

I understand with the new pilot, uh, there's a habit habitability clause and certain units within a complex, there's some oversight, but for the older pilots when there's a concern, how is it addressed?

Well, we we generally will talk to Miss Gober if there's something involved on that process, and we would get directly with the leaseholder on here, which is supposed to make sure that the those uh problems are resolved.

And uh we will do so if you bring it to our attention, we will get it directly to you.

And I haven't had any direct engagement, I've just seen social media.

So yes, ma'am.

Well, that's what I want to make sure she knew where to direct her questions is most part of my question.

We'll send them to our office, we will get get to it.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

Anyone else that would like to address us?

If you so if you uh don't feel bad, if you want to get up and leave a certain point, we won't point fingers at you.

So I know you may have already had your stuff issued.

Okay.

Um we have um eight TEFRA hearings.

What I'd like to suggest is that we have one, two, three of them, or three of them that have two different properties.

So when we discuss, like on the first one, sent it RP Brainerd and RP Kensington, whoever's explaining that.

If you could explain both pieces and the differences, that way we're we'll vote on them differently, but we'll have to cut the discussion down a little bit.

Okay.

The first one is a resolution on the health education and housing facilities board in the city of Chattanooga, Tennessee, relating to the issuance of a multifamily housing revenue bond for amount not exceeding 25 million dollars to provide financing to RP Brainerd LP LP for the acquisition, construction, and equipping of a multifamily housing facility for low and modern income to be located at 7453 East Brainerd Road.

And I think the same company has almost the identical piece for 20 million for a property on Kensington Drive, Kinsey Drive.

Kenzie Drive, thank you.

You're gonna handle those two, my friend.

Oh, well, yes, sir.

Thank you.

My name is Jay Money Hunt.

I'm an attorney with Bass Beering Sims, and we're serving as bond counsel for both of these potential financings.

Um RP communities, which is based here in Chattanooga, is the developer of both, and Connery Miller and Taylor Martin are here with RP communities if uh to answer any project specific questions.

Um that I did want to address, Mr.

Noblet asked before Kensington would have approximately 95 units, and Brainerd would have approximately 131 units, is what they're currently slated for.

Um again, just as some background, as Mr.

Kelly alluded to, this is a preliminary step in order to one preserve the fair cloth vouchers potentially for these two projects, and two to submit an application to THDA for tax exempt bond authority and low-income housing tax credits for these for these projects.

So the goal would be to um submit that application prior to the August 10 deadline that Mr.

Kelly um uh mentioned.

And in order to do that, but you know, a few of the items that we have to do is one, you know, have have you all consider a preliminary bond resolution and hold the TAFR hearing.

And so um that's what we're here for today.

The resolution is there in front of you, and then also have to have the the TEFRA hearing.

Can you tell us how many approximately either a percent of those two are what income range are they reserved for to the no right?

Yeah, so any property finance with tax exempt bonds has to have a minimum 40% of the units have to be at 60% or lower of AMI.

Um frequently they restrict them even further in order to get points from THDA.

And I don't know if if you want to provide any more color um on the income restrictions, but any project that comes to you off for tax bonds at a minimum 40 percent have to be 60 right or less of AMI.

Yes, um the plan is to reserve 100% of the units, okay.

Oh for both those projects, yes, sir.

Okay, yeah.

And that is within your authority for low and moderate income housing units here that you have that authority as a board.

Right.

Questions from board members.

Uh one here.

Um Mr.

Money Hun, what is a pro if if the board, excuse me, if the bond um hearing comes forward, approximately when would construction be targeted for us?

Yes.

So this is very preliminary step.

It would allow us to go apply to THDA.

THCA would probably either allocate this year or next year the um tax credit award and bond award.

So um it would it would preserve the ability to, but but again, we would have to come back before you once if we did get awarded, we'd have to come up with the financing structure, get all the financing partners together, and then come back to you for a final bond approval on top of all the other approvals that they have to do through the city.

Um, but I don't do you have uh like no, that's that's the next one.

I mean um yeah, I've got some questions.

Yes, sir.

Um, how many stories are these units going to be?

Uh two stories.

Two stories.

Okay.

Um and for the Kensington unit, is that entrance to that unit going to be off of East Brainerd Road or is it going to be on Kenzie Drive?

It's on Kinsey.

On Kinsey.

Yes, sir.

Have there been traffic studies completed for these?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

It wasn't really made for a lot of traffic.

So what do those reflect those traffic studies?

Um, it was you know, uh every all the findings were acceptable.

Um to our to our knowledge.

Okay.

What does that mean?

Oh, that you mean that there's not going to be any development around it, trans it it will so the the entrance has been constructed.

So with Kensington specifically, um there are 95 platted finished lots.

Um, so the entrance is already been uh placed in service.

Okay.

Kensington originally, as its design was intended, was going to be a a for sale community.

We're gonna build 95 townhomes.

Um our goal has always been to deliver attainably priced housing.

Of course, and uh as I think we're all well aware, we're in a rising interest rate environment, inflationary pressures have impacted consumer liquidity and construction costs, and um we kind of we had to shift our plan and to deliver homes to Chattanooga residents that makes sense.

Um we started discussions with an institutional affordable developer um out of Los Angeles.

We were not able to strike a deal, but it was a really educational period for us.

Um we're thankful that Joe Kelly from the uh Chattanooga Housing Authority reached out um with uh with a remedy, and this was this was the plan.

Thank you.

Okay, yes, ma'am.

About how many uh units will be handicapped accessible?

Um that's a that's a good question that I will be honest.

I do not know the exact answer to, um, but we're applying we're we're we're complying with HUD regulations in that respect.

Go ahead.

Uh just trying to make sure at least there was notice in the the paper regarding this event.

Looks like we had a reference that the ads for this meeting were on July or July the 20th, and so they've been uh compliant with the requirement for this uh on notice.

Any other questions on the Brainerd or Kensington pieces?

We'll vote separately, but same presenter seeing none, Chair would we don't have a motion, do we?

No, yeah.

We've got to get you a flag.

We need a motion on the RP Brainerd LP.

Chair would entertain a motion on the resolution.

Uh-huh.

Second.

Second.

Discussion on the Brainerd LP.

Seeing none, all in favor of approval of that resolution for the 7453 East Brainerd Road location.

Please say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Oppose like sign.

Okay.

Chair would entertain a motion on the Kensington LP for the Kensington of the Kinsey Drive location.

So moved.

Second.

And a second discussion.

All in favor of that resolution, please say aye.

Oppose like sign.

Seeing none.

Resolution passes.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um next one is on the clear for clear branch town homes.

Uh, if you will let me tell you the address and the amount rather than read, since it's all exactly the same.

This resolution would be for amount not to exceed $8 million to provide town homes on at 5211 highway 58.

Chair would entertain a motion for discussion.

So move.

Second.

Uh is anyone here.

Yes, sir.

You want to tell us you can tell from the conference we're looking for, uh, number of units, how many are um at what percent of AMI, maybe the stories, that type of thing.

So we have some idea of what without getting into you know what kind of wash machines you put in them, what what you're proposing for that.

Sure.

Uh thank you.

Good afternoon.

Thank you for this opportunity.

My name is Charles Ramsey.

I'm with Waypoint Housing Insights based in Cleveland.

Uh the Clear Branch Town Homes development again is at 5211 Highway 58.

It's right near the Harrison community.

It's consisting of approximately 80 townhomes.

Those are two-story uh targeted for families whose household income is at 60 percent of AMI or less.

Those buildings are two stories, and the approximate percentage of those set forth for uh mobility handicapped and audio visual handicapped individuals is about 10 percent.

Okay questions.

Uh I have a question.

It's on our map, it's a little difficult to see what part of 58 this says.

Where is that 5200 block?

Uh or just a general landlord at champion right now.

Yeah, that's right.

I was gonna say Turkey Foot Trail is the nearest cross street, but if you know, but that's a very small street, but yeah, understood questions.

Making sure your notification looks like it came out on the Saturday, July 18th newspaper notice.

So did have advanced notice of this as well.

Okay.

No further discussions.

Uh assume we're ready to vote.

All in favor of this resolution for 80 townhomes located at 5211 highway 58.

Please say aye.

Oppose like sign.

Okay, we have uh two uh uh Matt Co.

North Shore and Matt Cove Ultawa.

The North Shore is for not to exceed 10 million, and I'm on DE on the back of your agenda, so you know where I am.

And the Ulta location is for up to 27 million.

Is someone here to address that?

Thank you, sir.

Try to figure out what to tell us.

Sure.

Uh my name is Abishek Mother.

I'm the principal of Matco.

Did you want to also include the following project as uh as well, which is Matt?

Oh, yes, yes, you'll be afraid would be my friend.

Wonderful.

So I'll just go through each of them uh one by one, and then happy to answer any questions as well.

Uh MACO North Shore.

It's uh projected to be 56 units.

We're going to meet with the community, I believe, on uh Monday the third.

Um it's in very early stages of that.

Um we'll meet all of the ADA requirements from uh uh accessibility perspective.

All of those 56 units are expected to be affordable with no no uh a resident having an income above 80 percent AMI at that project.

Um those will be two and three bedrooms specifically for seniors um that would reside there.

Okay.

The Utah.

Yeah, the next project is Utawa.

Uh it's uh projected to be a 200 unit project, very early stages uh there as well.

That is within the city limits on Old Lee Highway, uh, two and three bedrooms again.

Uh all of the units will be affordable with no resident uh having income above 80% AMI and being consistent with all ADA requirements for accessibility uh at that project.

Um that project, it's very early stages of design, but we'll be between three and five stories at that site.

And the last one is uh Jenkins, which is on the intersection of Shallowford and Jenkins.

Um that's 200 units, all of them are expected to be affordable with no resident uh making income above the 80% AMI level.

Again, uh in consistent with ADA requirements of accessibility there as well.

Um we expect that site to be four stories, uh, but that's very early stages of design.

No zoning application or anything else have been submitted so far, and we're working with the churches that are at that intersection, the Seventh day Adventist, and then the Grace Community Church as well to design what the community really would want there and how to be helpful for the church.

It's actually the Seventh day Adventist church that's selling that piece of property.

Okay, so it's in combination with them.

Okay.

I have a notification.

It was 225 units there in 7997 in Shallowford.

Uh I apologize.

Correct.

That's true.

Absolutely right.

It also says at or below 30 percent, and you just said 80 percent.

So all of the voucher units are at or below 30 percent.

Uh the 56 units in uh North Shore, that's specifically correct there.

The others are in very early stages of design.

So from a LITEC federal income tax perspective, it's 100% affordable.

And so there we use income averaging to make sure all projects are below 60 percent, with no resident achieving an income that's above 80 percent.

Questions just for the record, your notifications were in the paper here.

It looks like the date of the notice was the uh get my double check here.

This is the 19th, so seven days in advance of this meeting as well.

Thank you.

Yes, on on the Jenkins Road Um or Jenkins property.

Is that all in the city currently?

My understanding is part of it's in the county, and not all of it's within the city limits.

Absolutely correct.

Uh one of the parcels is within uh it's actually one of the parcels within the city, the other parcel is in the county, and the church intends to divide that parcel so that way we can buy everything that's to the towards the intersection of Shallowford Jenkins.

The church will continue operating on the rest of the parcel, and that parcel is in the county.

Okay.

And and your plans are to annex that into the city.

We we haven't gotten to that stage.

It's very early preliminary, uh, no zoning materials have really been submitted anywhere, and we're still working through the design aspect of it.

Have there been any environmental studies?

Because living out in that area, I know when it rains any amount that that area right there between the Dunkin' Donuts and the this Adventist Church is uh is a wetland.

And it's it's very uh very damp, and there's a lot of upstream and downstream um concerns that a lot of people out in East Brainerd have.

So, has there been any sort of environmental study done yet?

So there's not been environmental study done yet because we have a design how we would potentially do this.

The church is aware that it's in the flood zone there.

Uh we've uh engaged map engineering to go through the flood zone, and there's also a parcel across the street that has access soil, so we would have to work through the engineering consultants and the flood map to make sure that's designed appropriately.

Okay.

And four stories, are there any other developments do you're aware of that have four stories out in that area?

Because I can't really think of any.

Yeah, so the other side of Shallford and Jenkins um that is currently under construction.

I don't know how tall that is at this minute, but with the flood elevation change there, it's it appears to be about the same amount of height from Jenkins on the church.

No, not there's uh new construction shallow for Jenkins on literally the opposite side.

I've not driven over there in the last few days to really see that.

Okay.

Do you know how many stories those are going to be?

I I don't know the answer to that.

Okay, but I know that's not affordable there.

Um, and so what we're trying to do is work with the church, trying to achieve their mission of providing you know, community service that's oriented to what that community really needs there, and then build something that's that's affordable and provides that housing in that intersection.

Are there any plans?

I know you had said that you're meeting with the Mountain Creek folks.

Are there any plans to meet with the residents and everyone involved out there in East Brainerd?

Correct.

As soon as we can figure out what type of planning and design we would want to accomplish there, um, I think once we have a preliminary aspect to be able to answer initial thoughts, uh, we'd love to organize a community meeting that might be at that Adventist Church of the Grace uh community church that's across the street.

Um, but that would be the goal.

Okay.

Other questions?

Mr.

Kelly, Mr.

Um Joe, I got a question for you just on all of these.

Just looking down at the the six or seven we've discussed without Northgate.

If my math's half correct, you got roughly 800 units, and so I'd say probably Northgate.

You're looking at a at a thousand units.

If if Northgate had gone forward, yes.

Yes.

Um my question is this I know there's always a need for public housing.

Um you could probably put 5,000 units out there and somebody would want them.

Do we know if there are I'm I'm concerned with that AMI and this community's gone up significantly the last two or three years?

And I've used an example, I had a daughter who now now is moved from here, had a master's degree, and couldn't afford even public housing.

Is there so I I don't question the need.

I mean, we could line them up all day long.

Are there people that can qualify for these that can afford to pay this?

I know they need the the units, especially the two and three bedroom.

Do we have any idea of the the is I'm you almost using a double term of affordability, but are there people that can afford who need housing that they can afford to qual that they can afford to pay make the payments on these type of units.

Yeah, I understand.

Uh and and we believe so because these are uh vouchered properties, you know, all seven uh I I count 787 today, so you know, the uh that roughly 800, those will all have vouchers which allow folks uh with uh 30 percent AMI.

And section eight voucher it yes, that's the essentially what the the these are.

So these are opportunities for deeply affordable units uh uh at a at each side.

And once you have income averaging, though, it will likely be that we will have a certain population that's at 30% or lower, some at 50, some at 60, and a few at 80, and it will probably average out at about 60, but there will be plenty of uh opportunity for folks at the the lower end of the income range.

So from the perspective of your department within the city, and don't let me put words in your mouth, that you see that this type of effort is good for our community as long as the developer can afford to put it up in a quality manner because there's the there's the need for it.

Is that an accurate statement?

That's that's correct.

We anticipate based on uh just our the demand that we see year in and year out.

Uh we anticipate that demand will exceed what we're able to build through this program.

Okay.

And I think I'm not trying to lead you all, but I think it's important that we understand that piece.

Not that I'm smarter than y'all are, so I'm not, but I think it's important that we understand the need.

Now the people may not want a multi-housing facility in and around their neighborhood, and there may be a question about the traffic flow to your point, but from a from a need of housing, then I think what they're saying is we have the people to need this, is the point I'll make.

I I I may add just if it if it's helpful, in all likelihood, all of the sites that we're talking about are highly developable sites and will ultimately be developed with something more than likely um multifamily housing.

The only question is is there going to be an affordable component to it or not?

Correct.

And I think that from a from a community perspective, everybody wants it, but not in my neighborhood.

And I think that we have to realize that, and I'm not minimizing the concern at all you have, and I see people out there I know real well.

I think it's important that that we understand that from a good of a community that we make it as fitable as possible from a traffic from a design from uh from a whatever else perspective of how we all best serve our own community.

Yeah, I I think uh it it may be helpful to think of uh what CHA is doing on the west side right now.

And you know, that project's gonna ultimately be 1,800 units, approximately of which half will be affordable, the others will be market rate, and they're indistinguishable from one to the other.

And that's the goal with these properties as well.

You will drive by these properties and you will not be able to distinguish these as affordable properties from say a market rate development that's next door.

Well, but also I think that you you have let me go back to my own situation.

We have family members who at this point in their career are just starting out and they have low income and and they need housing.

And so I I think that it's uh a multifaceted population that I think is healthy for our community.

This is defined this this entire program, while there are set asides for senior housing and at different spots, it's primarily designed for family housing for young families.

Right.

So even you qualify okay.

And just what a record, the affordability restrictions, they remain in place indefinitely, right?

That's correct.

Well, with Litech, those uh provisions stay in place for 15 and then renewable for another 15 for 30 years, but for all of the CHA projects, uh we have a right to acquire the projects, and it is our intent to do so to continue the affordability indefinitely.

So we're on the North Shore, Ulta, and Jenkins.

Any further questions for anybody?

Yes, sir.

Chair, um, I have I have a question for Mr.

Kelly, if if you don't mind um more for not specific to one of these projects, but uh third year on this board, very familiar with the application process for the housing vouchers through CHA for a prospective tenant resident who meets the 60% AMI, the 40% AMI, would that be um would they reach out to the management company to supply their their financing and then it's allocated that direction?

Yes, for for the you we have basically at CHA two uh two pools of vouchers.

Uh we have what are called mobile vouchers that are awarded to individual tenants, and then they are able to take those to any site that will accept Section 8 uh vouchers.

These properties will all fall under our other pool, which are project-based vouchers, and what that means is that uh in order to uh reside in one of those, a tenant would go apply at that site just like they would any other apartment uh complex in town, but the additional steps that are involved with one of our properties would be their income verification to make sure that the folks uh meet the income guidelines.

Okay, thank you.

I I just I think that that's important for community and board knowledge moving forward.

Yes, these these projects, uh in fact uh the uh we have one right now that is leasing up at Shallerford Road.

Uh uh a fairly well, a brand new uh development, and all of our folks that want to live there are going to that site to to file their applications.

Great.

Thank you.

Other questions?

Yeah, this is just important for me to know.

Um, what type of amenities will you be providing for the work?

So these projects are obviously early stage from a design planning perspective, but typically you have a community room, a dog park, uh depending on if it's family versus senior playground, um walking trail, uh, those are the most common types of amenities.

Okay.

Most of them have washer and dryers in them.

Yes.

Okay.

Anyone else?

Okay.

Uh we're voting on uh the North Shore location, which is up to 10 million with 56 units.

Chair would entertain a motion for discussion on that.

Second.

Second uh discussion.

All in favor of the resolution on the North Shore location, please say aye.

Aye.

Oppose like sign.

Motion carries.

Then on the Ultawa 200 units, uh up to not to exceed 27 million.

Is Chairman a motion on that resolution?

Motion.

Second.

Second discussion.

All in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Opposed like sign.

See none.

The third one is on the Jenkins Road.

Um 225 units up to 25 million dollars.

Uh Chairman, a motion on that resolution.

So moved.

Thank you.

A second.

Probably second.

Second.

We have a motion and second discussion.

I'd like to add to the record that I'm gonna be voting no on this one specifically.

Um, my concern again is the number of units for the area and how far it's extending beyond what currently um we have as far as uh the density that that's in that area.

I know that the city council will be voting sort shortly on um the plan Chattanooga, and I'm not sure if this large number of units um kind of fits that um that plan.

Um and also you know, it's it's just um I had some more to say, but I'm gonna be voting no.

I just want to put that in the record.

Okay.

Noted.

Any other comments?

All in favor of the motion, please other resolution, please say aye.

Aye.

Opposed like signed, no.

One noted.

Um motion carries.

Um would make one comment.

Hey, Joe, is that I think that um two um board member down here.

Um I think that the uh traffic studies may be something that we should look into and make sure that's not a cursory piece.

I'm sure that if I had to be sitting out there, I'm sure that that is something that might be something that we do a little more look into and make sure when these come before us that it wasn't just a cursory study, but I I think that I hear his concern and I agree with him, and I think that that most people are more concerned with.

I mean, I I see it, we'll be driving down the road, and my you see something my wife goes, that's the you know how we're gonna get to in the future.

So I think it's something we might want to put a little more emphasis on from the housing authority perspective when it comes before us.

If we would we can do that.

Uh I mean we ultimately, before anything is any grounds broken, we've gone through pretty extensive traffic studies.

Uh and I will say this with with respect to the the Brainerd and Kensington, both of those actually have fairly extensive traffic studies already on those.

Uh the other ones that are an earlier stage, but that's I I think that that's helpful.

But that many people, thank you all for coming.

Good to see you.

That's helpful we'll make a note to put an emphasis on that we have two more resolutions Northgate P one Northgate P two Northgate P one is uh not to exceed 20 million and Northgate P two is not to exceed twenty million is anyone here to address that one or is that the only those two are the two projects that are being the the two Northgate phase one and phase two are being withdraw okay I thought of that as as I went through it okay um secretary am I done on business then okay any board member have any comments or thoughts or anything withdrawn by the applicant in this meeting I don't think y'all have to take further action if they get on the agenda again y'all would have to move to at least consider those items right okay any other business um are do we have uh scheduled agenda items for the August and uh um september so we sh so we we may not have a meeting in August okay I I'd like just uh if if we can not have one it would be great unless it's absolutely necessary we've we pumped them twice this last week and a half and I don't want to overdo my welcome I have trouble getting motions in seconds it is I'm losing my friend base.

Okay thank you all very much for your time and commitment to this I thought it was a a great session I want to thank everyone who came I think it's good that at least you read the legal notices and no way it isn't come with informed questions.

Joe thank you for being here we are adjourned