Good evening.

I am going to call the January 6th Planning Commission meeting to order, please.

If we can have uh call to order, roll call.

Madam Chair Kalarski?

Here.

Vice Chair Frazier here.

Commissioner Stone?

Here.

Commissioner Kirk here.

Commissioner Mohica.

Present.

Commissioner Gibson.

Here.

Commissioner Reutemann.

Present.

Madam Chair, we have a quorum.

Thank you.

If I can now ask everyone to please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God.

Indivisible deliberately and justice.

Okay, this is our first of two public comments sections.

Um if you'd like to come down and speak on any item, you may do so, but just note that uh we do have periods during the actual meeting where you can come down and and speak to that item.

We cannot take any action.

And before I go to our next item, I just want to say thank you to staff for all the work that you did last year.

Really, really appreciate it.

Uh and I'm looking forward as and I'm guessing I'm gonna speak for everybody that we're looking forward to working with all of you guys again for 2026.

We hope it's a good one.

And with that, I will close public comments.

And then our next item is you have to say it, or can I say it?

Okay, is our election of officers.

Commissioner Kirk.

Madam Chair, thank you.

Uh I propose and move that we support Ed Frazier as the chairman and Leslie Mohica as the vice chairman for 2026.

Okay, we have a motion on the floor for Commissioner Frazier as chair, Commissioner Mohica as vice chair.

Cast your vote.

And motion passes.

Congratulations, Commissioner Frazier.

Uh thank you.

You've got it.

Thank you, madam chair.

I appreciate it.

I um just want to thank you for your your service during this session and your experience and leadership.

And and I we uh know the board shares my my sentiments on that.

And so without further ado, we'll move on to the next item, and that's approval of the agenda.

Yeah, thanks for not doing an accept acceptance speech.

We appreciate that.

Keep going.

Good evening, Commissioners.

Uh, next item on the agenda is approval of the agenda after any additions, deletions, or holds.

At this time, we have the following request.

Uh hold to the February 3rd, 2026 planning commission meeting per the applicant.

Item number 15, UC-25-080.

Uh, for the applicant's information, additional re-notification fees may be required in accordance with Title 30 for items held or deleted, or if there are modifications to the original application.

The above public hearing item is going to be held.

Sorry, it's going to be opened as a public hearing immediately recessed until the date previously stated.

That's for item number 15.

If there are no requests from the planning commission or members of the public, the agenda is ready for approval.

Mr.

Chair, uh motion to approve the agenda as presented, holding item number three to the February uh third planning commission meeting.

15, I'm sorry.

All right, thank you very much.

There's a motion on the floor, cast your vote.

That motion carries next item.

Next item is an approval of uh minutes.

Uh there are no minutes to approve.

Uh so we'll move over to the routine action.

Uh for the audience's information.

Items on tonight's agenda or final action unless appealed to the board of county commissioners or otherwise announced.

All appeals must be filed in writing to the comprehensive planning department by 5 p.m.

on Wednesday, January 14th, 2026.

And any appeals from tonight's meeting will be heard by the Board of County Commissioners on Wednesday, February 4th, 2026 at 9 a.m.

in these chambers.

Per title 30, an aggrieved person may appeal an item.

An agreed person includes the applicant, someone who attended this meeting in person or through an authorized representative, or someone who has submitted comments in writing, which may include a postcard or letter.

Members in the audience must complete the meeting sign-in sheet found near the dais to confirm their attendance at this meeting.

Mailed notices of appealed applications will be sent to the property owners within the same notification radius as the original application and to those listed on the meeting sign-in sheet.

Additionally, any person may call the comprehensive planning department at 702414, or go to the county's meeting agenda web page and review the meeting notice of final action to find out if any items have been appealed for routine action items.

Uh our next is routine action items consisting of items five through 14, except for well, we didn't have anything deleted on those.

So items five through 14 can be considered together in one motion and are subject to the conditions with each agenda item.

If there are no objections, the public hearing is now open, and the routine action portion of the agenda is ready for approval.

Thank you, staff.

Um, so so this is a port part of the meeting where we're going to have one vote for all of these items for approval.

And so if anyone in the audience wants to remove any of these items off of the routine action item lists, now's the time to come down and do so.

All right, seeing no one rushing down.

I I'll entertain a motion for the routine action items.

Motion to approve routine action items five through 14.

Motion on the floor, cash your vote.

That motion carries.

Thank you.

Okay, those items are final action unless appealed, except for items 11 through 14, which will be forwarded to the Board of County Commissioners meeting for final action on February 4th, 2026 at 9 a.m.

unless otherwise announced.

Next item on the agenda is item 16, WS-25-0734, holdover waiver of development standards to allow a six foot high non-decorative fence within the front setback in conjunction with an existing single family residence on 0.98 acres in an RS5.2 zone generally located south of Viking Road and east of McLeod Drive within Paradise.

Um if you want to hold this and we'll try to contact the applicant or I actually Commissioner Kalarski, uh I'll let you decide what you want to do with it.

Yeah, this is the second hold.

Uh do we know if the uh planner was able to make contact with him after the last meeting I don't, I don't have any communication from the planner, but with the holidays, uh the planner was also out of the office for a bit.

All right, let's hold it one more time.

And if you will have the planner um contact them and then have the planner contact me, let me know what's going on with that, if you could.

And with that, can I make a motion to hold absolutely for two weeks?

January 20th.

January 20th.

Motion on the floor, cash your vote.

When the system allows you to there we go.

All right, that motion passes.

Next item.

Sorry, yeah, I'm sorry, just making a note about the revised uh plan on that one as well.

Okay.

Uh next item 17, WS 25-0785, waiver of development standards to reduce the rear setback for a proposed balcony in conjunction with an existing single family residence on 0.5 acres in an RS20 zone within the neighborhood protection RNP overlay, generally located north of Craft Avenue and east of Jace Canyon Court within Lone Mountain.

Is there an applicant in the audience for number 17?

Okay, there we go.

So um name and address for the record and tell us about your application.

Juan Alvarado, the address is 4768 Jace Canyon Court, uh, Las Vegas, Nevada.

And sorry, what was the last part?

Oh this just on tell us about your application.

You know, give your presentation.

We uh we um what we would like to do is we would like to add uh uh porch in our backyard.

Um we uh when we moved in, there wasn't any anybody in the back, it was just a desert in the rear resident uh rear area.

Our properties are kind of rectangular, so and they're also kind of staggered.

So we were we're putting this in so we can have a little bit of privacy from our backyard to the neighbors from behind us.

Um and then also um because uh uh are do you guys also have the pictures that we have or the areas?

No, no, sir.

So whatever put it on that, put it on this on this on the on the counter there on the dot on top of the dot.

Okay, and then uh I would grab that microphone, but the engineer will be able to zoom in and zoom out as needed.

So this is our house.

This is our house right here.

What we're we want to put the the patio.

Yeah, you can you can if you could just put that mic a little so we can sort of record about okay.

Sorry, first time doing this, so okay.

So this is our house here.

We want to put the patio here so that we can have a wall right here so that we can have a little bit of privacy from the rear houses to this house right here.

Um we we got our idea from our our next door neighbor, he did the same thing, but we the only thing we want to do is we want to be able to have access to the top so we can also have a view of the of the the valley.

Um this is what his what they ended up doing.

So they have a wall in the back here, so they have the privacy from when they when they do their their functions or whatever they do here, they have their privacy from from the rear neighbors.

Uh vice versa is them from them as you know them from them.

So we want to do the same thing just to have a little bit of privacy from as much from them.

So um sometimes it gets a little weird when we're doing our functions or you know, our barbecues or whatever, and they're also in the backyard, and you know, that's just just to give a little bit of privacy and um that thing I think by by us looking at them and then just by us taking it one step further, and then just being able to go on top to to have that as a balcony, is what we would like to do.

What we're what we're right now is uh our setback is pretty much what would leave us to be right about.

Well, actually, with with the way the the zone is this we're already in in in beyond where we were supposed to be when the house was originally built.

So we just want the setback to be able to basically match our neighbor's patio so that we can be able to take advantage of that.

This is uh pretty much what we would want what we're trying to do.

Um it would be all stucco, stairwell, uh balconies up on top with uh railings up on top.

Um very simple, but we wanted to make it match like it's a permanent structure of the house.

That's our project.

Okay, all right.

That's so that concludes your presentation.

Um so at this time I will open this application up for a public hearing.

Anyone in the audience would like to speak on this item.

Now's the time to come down.

Seeing no one coming down, I will close the public hearing and I'll open it up to the commissioners for comment questions and discussion.

I'll start with uh Commissioner Mohica.

Did do you have any photos?

Um what it's gonna look like with the if you do the terrace thing that we've gone around the neighborhood and we've kind of taken some pictures just to get ideas of what what we wanted to do.

So there's already one in the neighborhood with the terrace.

There's a few, like this one right here was this is the one we originally wanted.

Uh there was one where you know it's just kind of that's our wall, that's their wall, and that's one of the reasons one of the uh ways we got an idea.

Um all these other ones are kind of extremes of what what what we want to do, but um that's basically the the I tell you one my concern is um that you that's pretty um that you you're building the wall um for privacy, but if you build the deck on the top, now your your guests can look down to the yard.

Well, we could do that already.

We we could I if I wanted to, I could walk to the edge of because we're eight feet higher than them.

So basically, if I come out of my patio out of my window, I can already see into their backyard.

I can see into their living room actually.

So that's already, I mean, this is uh and that's what we're trying to assess.

We're trying to get a picture of it.

I understand what you're saying.

We're not physically there, so right.

I understand.

And and this if you look at the is there another one of these that you have as an example.

Um there's there's a few of these here, but um not like this one.

I think this one's kind of the same also as that one.

Um it's kind of hard to get because you know the a lot of these are you know, with this from a street view, it's kind of hard to get pictures, but you can see them.

I just didn't didn't want to uh you know uh get too much into people's yards to take pictures and whatnot, but these are the ones that are that are pretty close, similar to what what we're doing.

There, these are these are extremes.

I mean, I can show you these, these are pretty much extremes too too.

Like that's on a third story, and that's right next to their property line, so they'd be able to see anybody there.

Same with this one.

That's like a third story on top of a second story, and they're do their balcony, and that's that's the property line, they could pretty much see everybody on theirs.

This is another one also, it's second story, and that's that's the other property.

Anyone from here can see into their property very easily.

Um another one.

This is kind of out of a bedroom balcony, but it's right on the edge of this property.

So I mean, if if there was a house on the backside here, they they would be able to see in there.

And this is a new construction that's going on right now, and that's this is kind of a hard, but that's the property line right there.

So anybody on this balcony could could pretty much see in there too.

Uh thank you, Commissioner Mohica.

Um Commissioner Kalaski.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um basically you answered the questions that I that I had written down, but I guess my my major concern is they can't see into your yard if they are eight feet below you.

Well, they can't.

Well, it if they can't see into my house, but if I'm in the backyard, I can because can they see you above the wall?

Can they literally see your patio, your your your lawn furniture that are underneath your patio cover?

Not to that extreme, but when we went because we went, we we we spoke to all four of our neighbors, or I'm sorry, all three of our neighbors on wall sides because we wanted to make sure they were on board with what our plans were.

And uh when we were in our neighbors immediate behind us, um we were in their backyard and we were looking up.

And if you see on this if you see this picture, this is our our backyard right here.

They're right here.

Sorry, they're right here, and they could basically see from because of the angle.

They this is our we're we kind of like got a makeshift barbecue island here, and we were talking about because I have a Traeger and I have some different uh um cooking stuff there.

So we were in his yard and we were talking about my cooking equipment that I have here, so they can see that that much.

They might not be able to see the ground and they might not be able to see all the way into our living room, like we end we can into theirs.

But they they I mean that that was the reason for that wall being the idea is so that when they look up, they see the wall, you know, and we're we're we're talking to them, we want to make it so it's appealing.

So when they look up, they don't just see a blank a blank wall.

You know, we're we're gonna talk with them and do something so that when they look up, they see something appealing.

Their backyard.

I it's it's not directly.

I mean, it it makes it sound like the wall is right at the at the property line.

It's ten feet, it's ten feet in.

We have five foot easement, and then after that we have like another five feet where the wall is gonna be.

So it's not literally like you're there and you're looking up.

It's basically if they're if they're sitting in their patio and they're looking up, they're like it would be like at the top of the brown area right there.

I mean, it's it's not lit, it's not like it's we're like right there looking down into their into their property, but you know, the sound carries, and you know, if they're playing music or if we're you know being loud, you know, we respect each other's privacy.

We don't want to, you know, just it's just one more barrier that would be there to give the privacy.

Staff he says it's 10 feet, they're requesting six.

It's it's six seats from the easement.

We have a tent of five foot easement.

I can show you on the on the plants here.

Uh yes, sir.

Uh staff can answer that question for go ahead.

Um, staff, if if you understand Commissioner Collars' question.

Yeah, I'm gonna pull up the plan and see what what he showed us.

So what we will, you know, we go off of what they show us on their plan.

You you need to turn that so that it looks good to you, sir.

Yeah, to turn it around so it looks good.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So here's here's the the property line, and then there's there's a five-foot easement here, and then we have the the five feet or so that it's gonna be for the stairwell.

So the wall is gonna be basically ten feet in.

This is the wall right here.

So they you don't count the stairwell as as part of we do.

They're showing six points set looks like six point seven feet to the property line from the stairs.

To the from the from the edge of the stairs, but the wall itself is is ten is beyond the stairs.

No, no, but but your setback is is the six feet.

The stairs are counted towards that.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

Yeah, but as far as counted towards what towards the privacy or or what are we doing?

That's counting towards your waiver, what you're asking for.

You gave me the impression that you were asking only for 10 feet, but the waiver here says six, so I wanted to see where we're where our differences were.

Oh, I see.

I'm sorry.

Okay, yeah.

I see it.

Now it's stairs.

Yeah, well, I I was referring to the wall for privacy, and I didn't realize we were talking about the that.

I'm sorry.

Oh, I I can do the privacy.

I I can't support the balcony.

I'm sorry.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, ma'am.

And can I ask why?

Because I think you're infringing on your neighbor's privacy from the top.

Thank thank you, Commissioner Kalarski.

Um we're we're gonna stop it there.

Um go ahead, Commissioner Kirk.

And David, thank you.

Commissioner Works.

Chairman, thank you.

Uh you've shared this with your neighbor.

Oh, yes.

And they're okay with it?

Yes, I've got letters from all of them.

Thank you.

That's all I care about.

Thanks.

Commissioner Workman.

That answered my question as well.

Thank you.

Um Commissioner Stone, I thought I thought you saw your light on.

Nope.

Okay.

All right, we're very good.

All right.

So before I turn it over to Commissioner Gibson, if you would provide those letters to staff if they don't already have it, and then I'll turn it over to Commissioner Gibson and take us take us home.

Yeah, I would like to have confirmation that at least three of the neighbors on covered bridge court have written letters of approval.

Or support, rather.

I changed my mind.

Here's where the same Mr.

Chair, if I could just ask staff, is one of those directly the neighbor that's directly behind him.

So if Google's giving me the proper numbers, we'd be looking at 4761, 4735, and 4709 covered bridge court.

So we do have a letter from 4761 signed by the owner.

Okay.

Um they're okay with the plan saying that it's a patio and balcony.

Uh we have a letter from 4768 Jace Canyon, which is north of them.

Um but that is not oh hang on.

Yeah, 40.

Actually, I was off.

I'm sorry, 4748.

47.

I have a letter from the owner of 4748, which is south of them, and 4768, which is north of them.

So only the one behind them on covered bridge.

Yeah, and it would be 4787, 4761 and 4735 covered bridge court would be my concern.

So uh sir, I understand you want to put a wall up for your privacy.

Can you throw up your one that shows your current backyard?

Yeah, that one.

So again, here's the deal where the counties, you know, what wanted wrought iron, which is limiting privacy.

So now with the wrought iron back there, you can see right into their backyard.

I mean, one thing I will say is if if this was allowed, you're encroached so close to the property line.

I what I don't like is where your stair location is because all the way up your stairs, you're staring right down into their backyard.

Once you're up there, though, the only way you're gonna your height is gonna be more you staring at the roof than it is their backyard from up there.

But that's just that lot off to your right, off to your left.

Now you have full view of their backyards, and they haven't given you letter of support.

Can we staff could it and do we have any addresses on the letters of protest?

Because there's four.

Um if you give us a few moments, we'll pull them up and we can like it.

I'll just be curious if they happen to be in that street down there.

As far as the patio cover, I don't have any issues giving you this variance to put up the patio cover.

Let me just be clear.

I if you do what your neighbor is doing, I think that's a nice ad.

Does give you some privacy, gives them some privacy both with visual and with noise.

Where I have the issue is the balcony.

And I've spent 20 plus years up in the northwest hell on the fourth of July.

It's a great place to be when you have a view because you have fireworks of the entire metropolitan Las Vegas.

It's a great show.

Um one of the cards in protest is from 4787 covered bridge.

Okay.

So CAC recommended approval for patio cover only.

And I'm gonna have to follow suit.

I can give you approval for what you're asking for the patio cover, but not for the balcony.

What if I what if I put the stairs in a different location to where it's not it's not the I mean, the the I mean, literally, you'd have to be right at the railing to look down into their backyard.

If you were to move those stairs and you got letters of support from 4787 and 4735, can somebody tell me what which which homes those are so 4761 is directly behind you?

I have we have the letters from them.

From 4761, I I'm aware of that.

I want the neighbor to the to the left of them and to the right of them.

Okay.

If you could give me those letters, because those would be the most so if you at this point, would we just hold it?

We we've talked to them and they're okay with it.

We just had trouble scheduling meeting up with them to get the to get them to sign the letter to get them the letter from them.

But we've talked to them, so they're okay with it.

We can hold it and and just just get the letter from them.

So you go we hold it for a month so you come back the first part of February.

I know choice.

I guess I have to.

I mean, uh it's uh uh we've been trying to do this for well I can hold it for two weeks.

I'm just want to make sure I give you enough time to get the letters.

Uh what was the other one for one month?

Yeah, two weeks or one month.

One month just to just because of scheduling issues.

I I I if it was up to me, I would do it tomorrow, but just to make sure that I because they're a gated community, so it's not always easy to be able to do to you know go into their, they don't have like a public access to their gate community, so sometimes I have to wait till I see them in their backyard, and you know, so it's just a matter of just running into them.

All right.

Sounds like we were looking for a motion to hold.

Okay, so a motion to hold one month to I don't know what that date is um February third.

February third, uh planning commission meeting.

All right, the motion on the floor, cast your vote.

All right, that motion passes for a hole.

Thank you.

The next item on the agenda is 18, WS25-0787.

Waivers of development standards for the following.

Uh I'm sorry, and this is with 19 as well.

Uh waivers development standards for the following, one increased retaining wall height, and two increased fill height, and three reduced gross lot area.

Design review for single family residential subdivision on 22.7 acres and an RS20 zone within the neighborhood protection, RMP overlay, generally located south of Wigwam Avenue and west of Cimron with an enterprise.

And then the companion item is number 19, TM-25-500194.

Tended map consisting of 41 single family residential lots and common lots on 22.79 acres and an RS20 zone within the within the neighborhood protection RMP overlay.

Generally located south of Wigwam Avenue and west of Cimron Road with an Enterprise.

Name and address for the record.

Good evening, Mr.

Chairman, Commissioner Stephanie Girl, now 1980 Festival Plaza Drive.

Here on behalf of the applicant, Lenar Holmes.

First congratulations uh to the new chairman and to the new vice chair.

And um thank you to the former chair Clarski for all your leadership over the last several months.

Um if I could just direct your attention to the overhead.

This is our third time before you on this map.

Um this is Simron and Wigwam.

It's a site that um, as you can see, actually on this aerial, it's graded and ready to go.

Originally back in 2023, America West homes came in with an RP development half acre lots.

Then Lenar picked it up, and they have the map that you can see graded here ready to go that was approved last year.

There's kind of an unfortunate turn of events with neighbors to the property, which has caused us to yet come back for another amended tentative map.

The reason is is Cougar was originally vacated.

These two neighbors here wanted that street vacated.

When Lenar picked up the property, we found out that the neighbor on the corner here had sold to a new property owner who does not want the property to be vacated and does not want to sign the necessary easement agreement between the two properties if it were to be recorded as a vacation.

So here we are with an amended tentative map.

It is the exact map that you've previously approved with the exact waivers for retaining and for fill.

The only difference here is that you can see Cougar has now been punched through.

So highlighted is one additional waiver.

That's the only change, and it's for lot 16.

We meet the net lot size of 18,112 feet.

However, we do not meet the gross.

We're at 18,970 feet for the gross square footage, and it is 100% precipitated by this bulb that we put in there.

So in addition to the amended tentative map, we have that one new waiver for lot 16 that we would ask for your approval of this evening so that we can get this project actually going for permit.

So that's it.

Thank you very much.

Um I will open this application up for a public hearing.

Anyone in the audience like to come down and speak on it.

All right, seeing no one, I will close the public hearing and I'll open it up to our commissioners for any comments, questions.

Seeing none, I will give it to Commissioner Mohica for a motion.

Um yes, Mr.

Chair, I did meet with the applicant and went over the details at length.

So I am um going to make a motion to approve items 18 and 19 as presented.

Thank you very much.

Motion on the floor, cash a vote.

Thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

And those items be final action unless appealed.

Next item is 20 WS-25-0788.

Waivers of development standards for the following: one increase fence height and two reduce access gate setback in conjunction with an existing restaurant and hookah lounge on 2.02 acres in a CR zone, generally located east of Fremont Street and north of Okee Boulevard within Sunrise Manor.

Thank you.

Name and address for the record.

Currently, this area here is highly well, I want to say prostitution and drug use for the most part.

Prior to us having the fence, we would go out there every every morning and pick up drug paraphernalia condoms and whatnot.

Once we did establish and put the gate in, we didn't have to go out there anymore.

We're asking for a waiver due to the fact that we cannot have the commercial uh driveway due to the fact that we have a sign located right here, which would impede us from having the commercial driveway.

And also, this is not really a commercial um business per se.

We only operate Friday through Sunday.

And the owner is typically there at four o'clock to be to receive any kind of deliveries prior to any patrons showing up.

Usually the patrons show up at 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock in the evening, and that that's why we were asking for the waiver to have the fence located where it's located now.

And staff has recommended approval.

All right, thank you very much.

Um that concludes your presentation.

I'll open this application up for a public hearing.

Anyone in the audience like to speak on this item now as a town, now's the time.

Seeing no one coming down, I'll close the public hearing.

And I'll turn it over to our commissioners for any comments, questions.

All right, seeing none, I'll turn it over to Commissioner Kalarski for a vote.

I'm sorry, for a motion.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

The only concern that I have is that I'm I believe that fence of yours is in the right way.

Okay.

And this is on Fremont.

Uh I was there.

I kind of did a self-measure.

I think you're in the right-of-way, and I'm a novice, so if I think so.

Um but what I would like to do, and I guess I need staff to help me on this, is that I agree with you.

You need you need that fence.

Yeah, you need that fence.

I agree.

I don't I don't have an issue with that.

I guess.

Yes, we need we need security there.

I just want to make sure that you're you know that you may have to move that back if N dot when N dot if they decide that they need to do whatever improvements.

No, that's fine.

We we will comply with N dot and any wishes they so do I condition?

Do I think that's beyond the county's control if it's end dot so I don't even already advised him so he's aware of the situation.

Okay, and that's that's sufficient.

Okay, so with that piece of advice that you may have to move it down the road.

I'm going to move to approve WS 25-0788.

Thank you very much.

There's a motion on the floor.

Cast your vote.

My motion carries.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Thank you, Commissioners.

Happy New Year.

That's final action unless appealed.

Next is 21, which is a companion with 22, 23, and 24, and they can be heard together.

21 is PA 25-700049.

Holdover plan amendment to redesignate the existing land use category from neighborhood commercial to business employment on 4.61 acres.

Generally located west of Edmond Street and south of Russell Road within Spring Valley.

22 is ZC 25 0767.

Holdover zone change to reclassify 4.61 acres from an RS20 zone to an IP zone, generally located west of Edmond Street and south of Russell Road within Spring Valley.

23 is W or sorry, VS 25 0768.

Holdover, vacate and abandon easements of interest to Clark County, located between Lindell Road and Edmonds Street and Russell Road and Quell Avenue, and a portion of right-of-way being Russell Road, located between Lindell Road and Edmond Street within Spring Valley.

And 24 is WS 25 0769 waivers of development standards for the following one increased retaining wall height, two increase sorry, alternative driveway geometrics.

Design review for a warehouse and distribution center on 4.61 acres in an IP zone within the airport environments, AE60 overlay, generally located south of Russell Road and west of Edmond Street within Spring Valley.

Thank you.

Name and address for the record.

Good evening, Mr.

Chairman, Commissioners.

Uh my name is Bob Gronauer, 1980 Festival Plaza Drive.

I'm here representing the applicant in these three items, item 21, 22, and 23.

Um, the first thing I'd like to do is get your attention to the overhead here.

Is as you can see highlighted in yellow, we have a vacant piece of property that's approximately five acres.

Uh just to the north of it is Russell Road, and to the east of it is Edmund, which runs north and south in this area.

When you take a look at the uh aerial here, what you'll notice is there is a lot of industrial and commercial that's already existing in this area.

Um we do have, and I'll get in the conversation a little bit more about some residential um RE homes, uh, two cul-de-sacs, excuse me, one cold-sac here and a couple other lots that are located here.

And I'll get into that as I go through the presentation.

Um, but what I'm gonna show you in the next exhibit is you'll see that this whole area here and here, and even along here, these are existing commercial um uh non non-residential developments, and in this area it's all planned for some form of uh uh uh commercial neighborhood, which is uh not a residential use.

And the point is is as I show you this exhibit here.

What you'll see is what has been planned in this area if it's not been built or what is exist.

In the blue area, as you can see here in this general area, the blue sea that you see is the business uh uh uh industrial uses that are located in the area that are existing.

When you take a look at the pink area here, these are the neighborhood commercial sites that are master plan or existing.

And the yellow that you see in here is a part of the rural neighborhood preservation area.

Um our position with our client here is the property that we're asking for to change the plant land in the zone change, is on the five acres here, where essentially what's important to note that two and a half acres that we already will be adjacent to on the west side of the property is already planned for uh neighborhood commercial and neighborhood commercial down in this area here.

Uh where we would have any type of potential impact is a residential properties, is two residential properties that are adjacent to us on the west side of this property.

What we do believe here, you got two types of choices because I think what's important to note is this is going to be a non-residential type of development.

Okay, regardless, it's either you're gonna look at a commercial type of development or you're gonna look at some form of low intensity type of uh office warehouse that you see throughout the area in this area here.

And office warehouses, as you may know, are not 24 hour uses.

What we're designing, and I'll show you on the elevations and uh in the site plan, is uses that are gonna be for certain trades.

These are gonna be like for your pipe fitters, for your electricians, for those that are local business people in the area that will use this and pulling their work trucks in the in these areas and leave to go to their job sites and so on.

So you're not gonna have outside storage, you're not gonna have the high intensity type of industrial uses that one may think when you ask for industrial.

These are gonna be more your office warehouse types of uses.

As a matter of fact, um, one of the uh food processors that are in the area or food uh industrial people are looking at this site also, Ligordis, I believe it is, is uh we there are one of our tenants, probably clients on one of their other buildings in this area, so they may end up being one of the tenants in this area.

Um, and again, the difference with the industrial, what we believe is, and when I show you the design is gonna be up adjacent to the residential in this area, or the residential and a half of the property that we're proposing.

We believe that a commercial use is a little bit more intense.

Uh we can come in with the special use permit and potential some waivers for a convenience store for a fast food restaurant for other types of strip center commercial in this area.

Uh no, those aren't threats.

We could come in uh with an application, someone here and can get those approved.

Personally, what we believe is that is a little bit more intense because you can't control the 24-7 out 24-7 uses that could be on that property, andor the openness that would be in this area in case something would happen to one of the buildings that aren't going to be filled and they're they could be left vacant and could add some adjacent uh vacancy vagrancy issues.

The other issue here is with the industrial building.

We believe it's just one building here that gives a buffer in the area.

You don't have parking up adjacent to the neighbors in this area.

So we we think if it's designed the right way, that it can work.

Now, that being said, I just got a I got a lot of examples, but I'm gonna give you about three examples here fairly quickly.

Uh the reason what I'm gonna show you next is that industrial development is actually compatible and exists to existing residential or rural neighborhood preservation areas throughout the county.

Uh one of the areas is off of Dean Martin in El Dorado, uh, which is a project which is located here.

This green area here that I'm showing you is a rural neighborhood preservation area.

And that was uh zone change was approved, the non-conforming zone change back in the day.

And as you can see here, you can see part of this uh industrial building with some residential, the RP located in this area.

Another, I'll give you another example right here that gives you a better site to show you the buildings with the property that was approved.

Another one is off of El Dorado in uh Pebble.

Again, you have in the area here, it is planned or existing uh rural neighborhood.

You have IP and IP zonings in this area that back up to adjacent existing uh rural neighborhood preservation areas.

And in this area here, this is one of the existing buildings.

You can see in this area here, it's adjacent to an RP area that's approved and existing in this area.

The last example I'm gonna show you, just to give you a flavor that these things are actually have been done and can be done the right way, is off of Jones and Tico, which is actually not too far from the vicinity of this project.

Uh in this area here, again, this is a project that was approved as a non-conforming zone change several years ago.

There's nothing that's been built here, but was what was approved in this area is right adjacent to existing residential.

And what you'll see here is the property I'm showing you is located here, which would be a office storage area adjacent to the residential that's in that area there.

So those are just three examples of many examples throughout the county that shows you that actually a industrial use with office warehouse that we're proposing actually does work and can work with existing residential uh neighbors.

Um as we, as I'm showing you the site plan here, again to familiarize you.

Half of this property is adjacent to vacant commercial uh neighborhood commercial plan.

And we have two parcels that are we're adjacent to that are residential.

Um, at our neighborhood meeting and also at our town board meeting, the owners that live on this property here showed up in support of the application.

There are two major concerns that they had.

One is drainage, um, as I could show you on the uh aerial here.

There is you can see the drainage area in this uh as I'm pointing out that impacts your properties in here and our property.

And matter of fact, we're gonna spend several million dollars of fixing the drainage in this area, which is gonna help the neighbors that live in this cul-de-sac here.

So the neighbors that lived here, uh it was a mom and a son, I believe the last name is Moffat.

Um, they came out in support at the town board.

Their other issue and concern that they had with us, and I'll get into the elevations, is they wanted to have a different rear elevation.

And we were talking to them after a town board meeting, and what came out of discussion is they're to get us a picture of what they want to see for a rear yard elevate or rear building elevation because it's important to them to see what they would be looking into.

Now we've reached out to them waiting to hear back and get those pictures, but I'm on record, and I'm gonna we're gonna track them down as we get up to the county commission hearing to make sure that we address that issue because as my clients had told the uh neighbors that were at the meeting that we would be willing to work with them if they give us a design that they show us that they like in that area.

So that is something, but I'm gonna show you what we're proposing today.

That said, is that gets back to the industrial use of what we're proposing.

Back here is anywhere from 20 to 22 feet of intense landscaping that we're gonna be proposing.

Uh matter of fact, one of the waivers that we've been working with uh public works is his throat depth here.

The concern with staff with the public works is having the uh docks located here where you may have some conflicts coming in and out of Edmonds.

What we've worked with your public works department, we showed them a concept plan that we've been talking to them last week and today that we are gonna be revising where we're gonna move the docks to the south and to the north of this entranceway, and in this area, this will be more of the office space that we're proposing.

So that's going to eliminate the concern that they have with any type of conflict conflicts with respect to any traffic in the uh the trailers in this area with other cars of turning.

So I wanted at least address that.

That's one of the things we will be making it change as we change rear elevation and working with uh uh the adjacent neighbors.

Um there is another neighbor here, um Bruce Cowan.

Um I know Bruce very well.

We work together on the Ethiopian church.

This is just to the south and the west in this area.

Um and uh one of the things is as we agree to disagree on this project, he's here in opposition.

He lives sort of kitty corner to the south to the west, uh southwest down here off the map here, and I'll show you on the aerial, just so you get a better perspective.

Is his house is down in this area right here, and this is the location of our property.

And he's a in the reason why we've been having discussions is one of my other partners is coming in with another industrial project with light industrial on this property here, and Mr.

Cowan will tell you that he preferred to have commercial development right behind his house.

And he knows that it's either gonna be it's not gonna be built out as residential.

I think that's fair, and I think he'll tell you that in his uh comments.

Finally, just want to show you the elevations.

Um, this is quail.

Uh so this is what you'd see on the corner of Quail and Edmonds.

We have about 25 feet of intense landscaping, uh, five feet of uh landscaping, five foot sidewalk, and another 15 feet of landscaping in this area.

So we're very comfortable.

We were listening to the neighbors in one of our neighborhood meetings is we had a voluntary neighborhood meeting and then a mandatory neighborhood meeting, and in those meetings, we're taking the feedback and making some changes.

The rear of the elevations here, and I've always said, you know, the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

This articulation and rear side that I'm showing you, which would be facing to the west, is something that I like personally, but that doesn't mean that that is the right way, you know, to go.

Um, as I mentioned, we talked to our neighbors that we're most adjacent to, they would like to see something different, and as we said, we whatever they give us, we'll make those changes.

And then I my understanding is the property, the developer to the south of us that will be coming in in the next 60 days, plus or minus, we'll have a different rear yard or rear elevation that we may end up copying them also if that's the type of elevation that the neighbors want.

So I want to put that on the record also.

So I appreciate you listening to my um spiel of giving you all the points that are here, but I thought it was important to lay everything out.

Um, I know Bruce is here to make some comments uh on the project in opposition respectfully, and after that, I'm here to answer any other questions that you may have.

All right.

Thank you very much, sir.

Um I will take uh this moment to open this application up for public comment.

Anyone in the audience would like to speak on the matter, please come forward.

Name and address for the record.

Bruce Cowan, I live at 5840 Mohawk.

God, Bob's good.

Let me tell you.

I I I have some uh small developments that they'd certainly be a lot more artful, but uh if I uh and he wouldn't have to put such a display on, um, but uh I would certainly hire Bob in a second.

And yeah, that's a compliment to him and and his firm.

Um I would like to say though that um as much as he did a great job putting lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.

And um he's good though, he's really good.

Um I wasn't noticed for this meeting, nor were my other neighbors, so we we were not noticed.

Um I just happened to hear about it um about an hour ago and and drove down here at the last minute, um, an hour prior to the meeting.

Um I'm opposed to the rezoning.

Um it's my understanding that staff uh recommended no, and it's my understanding that the town board unanimously voted no.

And um I have some concerns about it.

Um it is, you know, it it's pretty obscene in my opinion that they would build a massive concrete block that would fill up a whole, you know, whole half mile or quarter of a mile or whatever, whatever it is.

And we would prefer other kinds of business that would be it would be zoned for residential would be fine.

And I have heard the threats.

Well, they're not I guess you're saying they're not threats, and and I'll and I'll respect that uh uh veiled threats that it could be a Taco Bell and uh and another you know another type of fast food restaurant, another type of fast food restaurant, or another gas station.

We already have 10 gas stations within a square mile in a ton of fast food restaurants, or uh the autonomous could be built there.

Well, I honestly think that those would be an improvement over a massive warehouse that that would be I I want you to visualize 35 feet up is much higher than this building, higher than that point over there, and I think the setback on this is is very small.

I I I don't recall the exact amount, but I think it's something like 20 feet.

Uh but still, even if it's 30 or 40 feet, that's that's a very I mean that's a big wall.

Uh and um anyway, I also think that that there it may be on a FEMA floodplain.

I know that uh the lot south is on a FEMA floodplain, flood zone.

Um there are some environmental concerns.

Uh there is wildlife there, and when it does rain, the the it does pond up, and there are um wetlands for migratory birds.

I just like to put that on record.

I I don't want you to think that I'm opposed to development.

I I recently spoke in favor of uh of two in front of the city council that are being done in the in the downtown area that I think are good.

I just don't think that this is a particularly good development.

And um I gave them plenty of opportunity.

I was supposed to meet with these guys uh to discuss it uh back in November and they they didn't follow up on it.

Um I just think that if they do approve this, they're gonna use if you do approve this and and the commission approves it, then they're gonna just use it to continue to build these massive concrete structures.

And I think we can do better than just massive concrete structures all over the place.

I think we want high quality residential, I think we want high quality um commercial.

I I've even come up with some better solutions that I was I would not be opposed to that might be warehouses with that are condominiums that the people could reside in them and have small kind of interesting businesses that might be good for the for the fabric of the community.

I don't think that this is good for the fabric of the community, and I hope you all vote no.

Um does that conclude your comments?

Because that we could continue if you need to, if you got some other points.

And I do want to thank you for your time.

All right, thank you, sir.

All right.

So anyone else in the audience want to speak on this item.

All right, seeing no one else, I'm gonna close the public hearing and I will turn it over to our commissioners for some questions and comments.

I'll start with um Commissioner Mohica.

Bob, may I just can you just point in that map?

Can you point out to where the autonomous is?

Yeah, uh the autonomous is located right to Cater right here.

That's okay.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair Mohiker.

Can I get um now Commissioner Kalarski?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Okay.

You know, this is this kind of reminds me of of back in the where I would not approve a non-conforming zone change.

I've got to tell you.

You always have been.

And until I realize that you're that the parcel to this your South is coming to us within the next couple months.

That shows me that we're gonna start picking that whole corridor for this type of industrial on the west side of Edmonds.

And I don't think that that's really what we want to do.

We don't want to continue with the migration of the industrial.

I don't anyway.

I don't think that's good planning.

And so with that.

I could support, I could support the the warehouse if it was something similar to what what is that thing that we just or that the county just did that retail one mile the last mile retail.

If if we could do something like that for this type of project, this type of use and do it in a commercial with a special use permit, a conditional use permit, whatever it is, if we could do that, I could support this wholeheartedly.

I can't support, I cannot support the plan amendment, and that's what's killing it, killing this for me.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Commissioner Klarski.

I I'll give a few comments and then I'll turn it over to Commissioner Workman.

I don't see any other lights on.

Um I appreciate the applicant applicant coming out and giving us um our presentation.

I I think it is a difficult piece to develop.

Um I like the site plan.

I personally believe that one building versus some other type of curse commercial use is makes more sense in this area, along with the fact that um it's it's um limited times, not 24-7.

I I do believe it's uh it's a better use.

I I will say that just for checking a box, um the person that spoke said he wasn't noticed.

Can you can you tell tell the the board what happened as far as how you sent out your notices?

Yeah, so he was on the on the list to get a notice.

Um that's the radius?

Yep, he's uh 1500 foot radius.

Okay, so right, so we did we did do our neighbor didn't get one yet.

Oh, thank you, sir.

Appreciate that.

Um, I'm just checking a box here for the board.

Um let's see, and then we we have um check boxes that we have to check as far as drainage studies and different things that will happen along the process.

So if this in a flood zone, I'm not really concerned about that piece of it.

Uh let's see what else I want to say here.

When we when we talk about going to business employment, um, you're gonna have one building.

Can you give me some type of uses that would be in that building?

The you're asking me the um yeah, I'm asking.

Those would be uh what you typically would see as I mentioned earlier, um, for some of your trades.

Um you're gonna have the piping company, you're gonna have an electrical company, you're gonna have a variety of what I'm gonna call smaller businesses that you're gonna have in there.

They don't attract uh tractor trailer type of traffic, those are the bigger uh mini warehouses or uh warehouse with office space.

So you're dealing with a different type of a business use, and and as you may know, the advantage of this, and one of the things I forgot to mention in my presentation initially is these aren't 24-7 hour uh 24-7 uses.

As a matter of fact, they don't probably aren't even open on the weekends.

So your amount of traffic of an impact in this area is gonna be significantly limited compared to commercial, but basically that's what you're gonna see.

It's more of your smaller type of uh businesses that help support the community in the general uh area.

All right, thank you.

I'm I'm I'm good with as far as the application.

I'll turn it over to Commissioner Gibson and then Commissioner Workman.

Yeah, I kind of snuck in last minute.

So my concern would I'm not definitely not against it.

My concern would be the hours of operation, like nothing pre-6 a.m.

and definitely nothing after 8 p.m.

Did you say you throw up your 3D rendering?

Did you pick those colors?

Uh I didn't pick them.

I'm I'm not the architect, but uh I'm not gonna take credit or discredit.

I I'll just mention that this is something that we've proposed, and if there is a suggestion by the board, I'm always willing to have the client look at it because the one thing that for the record, we did say we will make that change in the rear elevation of what the neighbor wants, and we'll track them down one way or the other.

Because the one thing that for the record, we did say and we will make that change in the rear elevation of what the neighbor wants, and we'll track them down one way or the other.

Um but I wanted to make that clear.

Yeah, and I guess that's my point is you know, if I was the owner of that property, like I'd want to see more trees than building because to the gentleman in opposition, it's a whole lot of concrete.

And I also wouldn't want to necessarily see bright blue, but I'm not here to design.

What I would ask is instead of you waiting for that neighbor to come to you with an idea.

Why don't you bring the neighbor some ideas that are maybe a little bit more mellow and a little more delicate, a little more neighbor friendly?

Yeah.

So that's all I have.

Thank you.

Yep, thank you.

Great advice.

Thank you, Commissioner Gibson.

Commissioner Reuteman.

Uh so on the current use for the staff.

If they wanted if they stayed with the business, sorry.

With the neighborhood commercial, how high up could they build currently?

It would be based on the zoning district.

So neighborhood commercial, they could request commercial general.

Um that would be the most intense zoning district that would allow uh building heights up to 50 feet.

Um the other districts that are allowed are up to 35 feet.

So that's to the neighbor in opposition to his point.

This 35 foot elevation is still available in the current zoning.

Yeah, that's just the maximum they can do.

Um in the either commercial general or in the IP, the industrial park, they can go maximum 50.

Um we spoke about this.

Um I kind of will reiterate Commissioner Gibson's comment where you should be working with the neighbor.

Um I think I've heard this from uh the new chair before that we look at each of these applications individually.

So just because this gets approved doesn't necessarily mean that that will continue down to in the south.

We look at them on their own merit.

Um, but given uh you know what I've heard here, which is that the use and the uh the intensity is comparable to what it is now, I I can support this application.

So with that, I'll make a motion on the plan amendment PA257.

Oh sorry, yeah, PA2570049.

All right, there's a motion on the floor, item 21, cast your vote that motion passes.

Thank you.

And I'll make a motion to pass ZC 250767 VS 250768 and WS250769 motion on the floor, cast your vote.

Motion passes.

Next item and Mr.

Chairman, when when does this go to the county commission?

Yeah, so uh these items will be forwarded to the county commission uh for final action on February 4th, 2026 at 9 a.m.

All right, so so that that's thank you for your consideration.

Have a good night.

Okay, all right, very good.

Um so thank you, applicant.

So next item on our agenda is public comments.

So I'll open it up for public comments.

Anyone in the item audience wants to come down and speak?

The the board can't um make any discussion or vote on anything, seeing no one coming down, we'll close public comments and we'll adjourn the meeting.

Thank you.

Good job.