We're on Tuesday, the 21st.

And first order, first item of business is a public hearing, so open up for public hearing.

Anyone in the audience can come down and speak.

The planning commission can't act or vote on anything, but you're more than welcome to do so.

See no one running down, we will close the public hearing and we'll start the briefing.

Good evening, Commissioners.

Tonight's agenda is let's do roll call.

Oh, yeah.

Oh.

Commissioner Fraser here.

Commissioner Mujica.

Present.

Commissioner Stone.

Here.

Commissioner Kirk.

Here.

Commissioner Kalarski.

Commissioner Gibson.

Commissioner Reutemann.

Live and in person.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I replaced you.

Oh, I was like, I have an old sheet.

Here.

Commissioner Brady.

Sorry.

No, you're you're fine.

Okay, so all present, um, including Commissioner Brady.

And so let's um let's get the briefing started.

Okay, good evening, Commissioners.

Um, tonight's agenda consists of 53 items.

Uh item four through 22 are routine action items and 23 through 53 are uh non-routine action items.

Uh I start with routine action items.

Number four is the ET, first extension of time for a restaurant building with drive-through services and retail building.

Uh staff uh had didn't have any objection to the request.

The site is already graded.

Uh there is a development agreement that was processed recently, and this is the first extension of time.

Town board uh also recommended approval.

We three received three cards in opposition.

Next item is uh another ET second extension of time for accessory structure in conjunction with an existing warehouse office building.

Uh staff office was okay with the request since there are some building permit and inspection in process.

Surrise manner town board recommended approval as well.

We received one card in support and two cards in opposition.

Uh item six is a tentative map uh for one industrial lot, staff supported it as well as enterprise town board.

Item seven is another alternative map for one lot commercial staff and enterprise town board both sec recommended approval.

Item eight is a use permit for a proposed office business services in conjunction with an existing office warehouse complex.

Uh this property is located in APZ2, and that's the reason we are doing a use permit.

Um no gathering.

We added a condition for no no gathering of individual 20 uh five people in uh acre as required by APZ, but we didn't have an issue with the use because uh it's a compatible use with the surrounding uses.

Sun Race Manor recommended approval too.

We received one card in support and two cards in opposition.

Um is another use permit to allow retail as uh a principal use in conjunction with an existing office warehouse complex.

Um staff was okay, there was no parking issue, it's a compatible use, and similar uses were approved before for this site.

Paradise Town Board also recommended approval.

Number 10 is a use permit to allow outdoor dining, drinking, cooking in conjunction with an existing restaurant in an IP zone.

Um this request was previously approved in 2005.

Uh it initially commenced, however, uh they never got a business license for the um outdoor dining portion of the uh business, but the restaurant has been running, so they're just re-instating the um outdoor dining portion.

Um it meets Title 30 separation expectation for residential parking is met, so staff didn't have an issue.

Paradise Town Board recommended approval.

We received three cards and two letters in support.

Next item is a VS for easements of interest.

Uh we are at 11 number 11 now, VS 260109.

Uh vacation of easements.

Um, so the applicant was no show twice for town board for uh Paradise Town Board, one for uh on uh March 23rd.

Sorry, March 31st, and the second meeting was uh April 12th.

Um so town board recommended holding the item to 428.

Um we received two cards in support and nine cards in opposition.

So um you can either hear it or hold the item.

Uh it's your choice.

So are we holding it?

Uh it's there is no request for hold unless planning commission wants to hold it.

So okay, but town board wants to hold it because he was a no-show.

Yeah, townboard recommended hold, yeah.

So should I so should I recommend to hold it now or or when we have the meeting?

You can.

You can request now.

I just add it, or you can just say in the records, whichever you prefer.

So I so do I need to make your item?

Sure.

No, no motion.

Oh, no motion, just yeah.

Okay.

Wait for the meeting.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm gonna read the routine action and then we can hold it.

So next item is uh item 12.

Uh, it's another vacation, um a portion of right-away for detached sidewalk, sunrise man and our staff board recommended approval.

Uh item 13 is a vacation for easements, enterprise townboard recommended approval.

We received uh staff recommended approval as well.

We received one card and three cards, sorry, one card and three letters in opposition.

Number 14 is another vacation um of easements and a right-of-way to accommodate sidewalk.

Uh, error paradise town board and staff didn't have an issue.

We receive one card and three letters in opposition.

Number 15 and 16 are companion.

First uh 15 is a vacation for a portion of right-of-way to uh to accommodate sidewalks.

Staff and enterprise townboard both recommended approval, we receive one card in support, one card in opposition, and the companion item tentative map is for a one-lot commercial um map, uh, which both staff and town board recommended approval.

Number 17.

I have a question.

Uh I just do you know, out of curiosity, do you know do we know what's gonna go there?

Uh I can double check the prior land use application very quick.

So in 2000 and in 2001, there was a non-conforming zone change uh with waivers and design review for a commercial complex, and there was an extension of time in 2024, um, which I'm assuming is still valid, otherwise we would add an expired.

So I think it's still the same application.

We can double check that before the meeting.

So we don't know if it's a restaurant or or a retail or it should be a combo of commercial complex uses.

Well, we can we can double check to see if we see any specific uses on the LALUS application.

That'd be great.

Thank you.

Because I know that area if there's yeah, so thank you.

Sure.

Uh number 17 is a waiver to allow accessory structures, walls prior to the principal structure, which is the house.

Um so uh customer wants to basically secure their property right now and just put the walls around.

Uh they had previously received some code violations for um illegal dumping, so they're trying to basically secure the property.

Um staff typically doesn't support this type of request, but in this case, because of the code enforcement, and also uh because staff is aware that they're working on their building permits to get the house basically submitted.

Um, and all the all the walls are meeting the code requirements.

Staff was okay with the request.

We received um two cards and two letters in support and one card and two letters in opposition.

This is not in a town board area, so it didn't go to town board.

Number 18 is another waiver for reducing setback for a second floor balcony in conjunction with an accessory living quarters.

So this item um this is for front setback reduction from 15 feet to 12 feet.

Back in August 2024, um, they were here uh and got a waiver to increase the height from uh to go up to 22 feet.

So the plan was a second story building, a two-story building, first story would be garage, second story accessory living quarters with balcony.

This is still what they want to do.

Um, however, they're just trying to push the building a little forward.

Um, and um it affects only the balcony and not the accessory living quarters or garage.

So those still meet the code.

Based on this fact, staff was okay because it just affects the balcony, not uh any main pre principal structure or the main structure.

Uh also um due to topography of the lot and limitation of um due to having uh mature trees on the site, um staff was okay with the request to basically do that rather than um removing the trees.

So Mount Charleston Town recommended approval, we received one card in support, one card and one letter in opposition.

Item 19 is uh 1920, 2122 are companions.

Um so they're gonna be forwarded to BCC for final action.

Uh and it's for a multifamily residential um development, um, basically, and a mixed use development.

It has three phases.

So the first request is a plan amendment to go from BE to EM and entertainment mixed use.

Um staff supported the request since there is no demand demand for industrial uh development anymore in that area.

And recently, um, most of the developments there has been developed as commercial or high density residential, so staffs could support it.

Spring Valley supported the request too.

We received nine cards in opposition.

Uh the next companion item is a use permit for senior housing and waiver, and this is actually senior and affordable housing.

Uh waiver for um increasing retaining wall height from three feet to five feet and eliminate EV capable parking spaces.

Um staff didn't have an issue with this request since this is an in-field development.

Um it's compatible with the area.

Um it's um for the um eliminating EV spaces.

Um staff um believes that since this is a senior housing project, um, the demand for EV is typically less, so staff could support it.

It also complies with master plan policies.

And Spring Valley Town will recommended approval.

We received nine cards again in opposition.

Next companion is another use permit for a senior housing again.

That's gonna be the phase two uh of the project, which is located northwest corner of the site.

The phase one is southwest.

So second phase is northwest.

Uh, this is another senior housing uh multifamily.

Um for the same reason staff didn't have an issue.

Spring Valley Town recommended approval and received nine cards in opposition.

The last phase, phase three, is the western east of the parcel or project.

Uh that's for a mixed use development.

Um, and also for a waiver to increase the height from 55 feet uh to 73 feet.

Staff didn't have an issue for the use because this is compatible use.

Um for the height, staff again was not concerned because this increased height is due to the design of the building.

Um, it consists of some levels of uh garage and some units on top, residential units on top.

Also, this use uh or this project was up, a project was approved before in the same um site for 77 feet, so staff uh realizes that this is less than what was approved previously.

Stream mounted townboard recommended approval as well, and we received nine cards in opposition.

This concludes our routine action items.

If there is any question, I'm happy to answer.

Thank you.

Um any questions from the board to staff on the routine action items.

All right, seeing no one will keep moving.

Thank you.

Next item on non-routine action item is number 23.

Uh, there is a request to withdraw the application uh per the applicant.

Uh number 24 is um a use permit for a banquet facility within an existing commercial center.

Um staff uh sorry, this was again two times no show at the uh town board, uh 331st and 414.

Um so again, it's your choice if you want to vote on it and hold it.

Um Spring Valley Town Board wanted it to be held to 428 town board.

Um, as far as our recommendation, staff um could not support it, even though they meet the parking, and they don't meet the separation uh to the residential to the adjacent residential, it's less than 200 feet.

Um staff typically doesn't support this type of request.

Um there are three cards in support, two cards and one letter in opposition for that.

Next item is 25, uh amended holdover waiver for um uh single family um residence.

So um initially, this request was to increase the height of the residence.

Um, however, their plan was revised, so they don't need the uh increased uh height anymore.

Um based on the revised plan, um, it triggered another waiver to reduce the front setback.

So this item has been renoticed since then.

So instead of going vertically, or as this originally was planned, now they're going horizontally.

So there is a garage that intruding into the setback instead of 15 feet front setback is three feet.

So staff could not support it, even though the customer tried to mitigate the you know the original request.

However, this is significant, it's a significant reduction, and also the driveway is three feet only.

So staff could not support it.

Mount Charleston Townboard recommended approval.

We received four cards in support, eight cards and ten letters in opposition.

Next item is a waiver to eliminate setback for an accessory living quarters in conjunction with an existing single family residence.

That's for rear and site interior setback.

Staff believe this is this structure is just too large for the lot.

And it's built already, so if they had inquired about the requirement, it could be built per code, given the fact that the separation is exceeding the code requirements, so it could be moved closer to the house.

Next item is 27 waiver to eliminate and reduce setback in conjunction with an existing single family residence.

There are multiple additions to this house.

It was a patio cover that they enclosed it on the rear.

It's zero feet from the rear, zero feet from the side.

And also there is a patio to the north of the residence, which is zero setback, another patio to the south that is zero setback, and there's a carport on the front that is three feet from the front property line.

Staff could not support any of that, and Sunrise Manor recommended denial.

Next item is 28 is a waiver to eliminate building separation and also eliminate side interior setback for the car port in conjunction with an existing single family residence.

Even though the material is compatible and it's um it has complementary colors to the house, and customers try to mitigate the effect on the neighbors by installing rain gutter to drain water away from the adjacent property owner.

We still could not support this because it's a zero feet setback and separation from the house.

Enterprise Townboard recommend and there was no recommendation from Enterprise Townboard.

We received three cards and one letter in opposition.

Next item is another waiver item 29.

Waiver to reduce setback and eliminate building separation for a shed in conjunction with the house.

Paradise Town will recommended approval.

We received three cards in support, four cards in opposition.

Item 30 through 34 are requested to be held.

So I could I jump to item 35.

Item 35 through 39 are companion and it's for a proposed restaurant.

First item is a plan amendment to go from LN to NC, neighborhood commercial.

Staff believe this request is not compatible.

To the northeast and south, to the north and east of this development, there are existing large home, their zone RS10.

So it doesn't, it's not compatible with those uses.

And also all the commercial plan land uses are mainly along arterial streets, and it doesn't meet or comply with master plan policy.

So staff recommended denial.

Enterprise tambour recommended approval.

We received two cards in support and 10 cards in opposition.

The companion zone changes for um reclassifying the site from RS20 to CG.

Um again, staff believe that CG is more for larger regional serving commercial uses rather than uh a restaurant, so the staff recommended denial.

Um Enterprise Town Board recommended approval, however, they wanted the zone change to be reduced to commercial neighborhood rather than CG.

We received two cards in support, 10 cards and one letter in opposition.

The companion waiver is for easement, staff recommended approval as well as town board.

We received 13 cards in support, 17 cards and one letter in opposition.

And um the waiver application and design review for a restaurant includes waiver for reducing throat depth and reducing departure distance.

Um didn't have any issues since it's it meets all the um zoning code requirement, but since we couldn't support the plan amendment and zone change, we didn't support this application.

Public or staff recommended denial of this um request.

Um enterprise town board recommended approval of the waiver number one, denial of waiver number two, and design review, and they wanted to add a kind uh they wanted a condition to be added, design review as public hearing for any future changes of plan and four architectural features to the south face building elevations.

Uh we received two cards in support, ten cars and two letters in opposition, and tentative map was could not be supported by staff due to not supporting Z C and PA.

Um Enterprise Town will recommend the denial as well.

So I have a question.

So we already know that it's gonna be a restaurant.

Um yeah, the use is a restaurant, yeah.

And and you're saying that that area is for a larger use, like give me an example of what?

So uh so what I meant was uh CG is more uh suitable for larger regional commercial uses.

So we don't we don't recommend CG to be uh placed next to those residential homes.

So that's too intense for the area, basically.

It's in so give me an example of a larger commercial use.

The restaurant is a good example, so we don't we don't want restaurant.

I mean, restaurant could be in C, I guess CN, so um more like shopping centers or you know more intense uses.

So we prefer a shopping center.

Uh no, so those are good for um more like uh more intense uses, which is shopping center is more intense.

So we didn't want a CG because it allows them to do anything basically.

So if they go to CG, um there is no guarantee that they do a restaurant, they can uh request for any type of commercial that is allowed in CG.

So that's why we didn't think that that's a proper uh zone to go there because you would be um not you, but we would be okay with a restaurant.

Is what you're saying?

Um we are not so the the the problem is we are not looking at it as a use.

There is no use permit, they're asking for a zone change, and we think any use that goes with the Z uh to with a CG is too intense for uh this property.

So we've got CG is too intense, right?

Commercial neighborhood would be okay.

Um that's what town board recommended.

I have a question, Mr.

Chairman.

Sure.

Do we know what kind of restaurant they're asking for?

Um you mean as far as having drive.

Is it like a McDonald's or is it a drive-thru type, or is it a sit-down restaurant?

Do we know?

We can check the plan.

I don't think we have those details to be honest.

Um while she's looking at that, I just want to remind you that the the point being is that even if they we know what restaurant it is and we're good with it tonight, um, they can change it at any time.

So they're not gonna be locked in to any type of development plan.

Yeah, I get that.

I'm just yeah, we're gonna look at the plan real quick.

I mean, I think we all get the sense of uh if you were to say oh like a McDonald's, and we know what that intensity is like.

If it's a sit-down restaurant, we might have a better feel for what that intensity is like as well.

So that's why I'm asking, do we know what kind of restaurant it is?

Their plan is gonna be the drive-thru.

I'm sorry, their plan shows a tavern with a tavern.

Yeah.

So like a uh okay.

All right, yeah, timbers or something.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh so but if we took the recommendation of the town board and we went down to compact CN, was that the commercial neighborhood?

Oh, commercial neighborhood, then would they still be able to do the tavern, but then maybe less chance of a post-approval upgrade to some more intense use?

We're checking the use very quick.

I believe we do, but uh give us just one second.

Yeah, that restaurant would still be allowed.

Um it would prohibit things like automotive related uses.

So it's really neighborhood serving retail and commercial that would be allowed under that CN.

So sorry, and if we approve the commercial general, then what when is our next opportunity?

Say they decide okay, restaurant didn't work out, we're going to automotive, then that could skip us.

Is that correct?

Or that necessarily wouldn't come before the board to be approved?

Correct.

It may come to you all, it may or it may skip you and go directly to the Board of County Commissioners.

Um, but yeah, I mean, even a use like that, they're gonna have to come back in under at least the the way the code is today, they'll come back in for a use permit uh because they won't be able to meet residential separations and the staff report said that the neighbors did not want residential at that location.

Is that what I've is that right?

Uh no, that was uh staff recommendation or analysis.

There was no um we we don't have any information about the neighbors before it goes to town board.

Um so what I mentioned was to the north and east are um larger homes, RS10 lots.

Right.

Okay.

That's a tough one.

Thank you.

Sure.

All right, looks like all mines are clear.

Continue.

Okay.

So number um 40 through 44 are companions.

And uh it's for um industrial development with outdoor storage yards.

Uh so the first item is a plan amendment to go from neighborhood commercial to BE business employment.

Um staff didn't have an issue with that uh plan amendment request.

Uh it's compatible with the area.

The area has been transitioning to industrial uses, so staff uh didn't have an issue to the north.

Um there are um properties to the north are all BE business employment.

Um to the east, uh there is an IP zone property to the west is a church and it's close to airport, so staff could support the BE or um designation.

Zone change is going from RS20 to CP RS20 and CP to IP, and for the same reason staff recommended approval.

Um for both items, Paradise Tambo recommended approval, we receive one cards and uh support for both items.

The companion vacation is for right-of-way to an accommodate sidewalk, staff recommended approval, paradise tambour recommended denial, receive two cards in support, and the companion waiver design review application is for um the waiver is for eliminating and reducing buffering and screening, and that's uh um along north and west property lines.

Uh so along north, um there are two vacant lots and there are two existing homes.

Um staff is not concerned about vacant lots because they are planned um BE, so the uh buffering screen doesn't even apply.

Uh the concern staff has is the existing homes.

Um so we could not support it.

They want to eliminate all the landscaping, but they want to keep the six feet existing walls there instead of eight feet required walls.

Along the west, um, same same waiver request, however, it's a church.

So staff didn't have an issue with that being waived along the west.

Um and uh other waivers include um modify residential adjacency, which is to allow them to have outdoor storage when outdoor storage is not allowed next to residential, either as principal or second um accessory use.

Um so uh staff could not support this um given the fact that they're actually waiving the buffering and screening.

Um those outdoor areas would be adjacent to those homes.

Um so we could not support that.

Um paradise tambour recommended denial.

We received one card in support, and then the uh companion tentative map uh is consistent on one commercial or sorry, industrial lot, Paradise Tambo recommended approval of that.

Uh next items uh 45 through 48 are requested to be held.

So I go to number 49 uh through 53, which are which is our last items uh on this agenda uh for um single family residential subdivision.

First PA request is to uh redesignate the site from RN to LN.

Um basically low intensity suburban neighborhood.

It allows them to go from do dwelling unit for per acre to five dwelling unit per acre.

Uh staff realize staff believe that this is not compatible with the surrounding area.

To the north, uh there are MPOR and P.

I mean northwest and south, there are on MPORMP lots, larger lots to the west, there is a lot that has animals, so it's all MPOR and P vibe there, so they didn't want um uh staff didn't um agree that this is a proper um PA.

Um Enterprise TAMBOR recommended denial, we receive one card in support, 11 cards and two letters in opposition, um and zone changes to go from RS20 to RS5.2 and also removing the MPUR and P overlay for the same reason staff couldn't support Enterprise Townboard did not support either, and we received one card in support, 11 cards and two letters in opposition.

The vacation is for uh portion of a right-of-way and easements.

Staff supported it, Enterprise Town Board didn't.

Uh we received one card in support, 11 cars and two letters in opposition, and the waiver applications for modify residential adjacency standards.

They're having um lots um as small as 5,000 something when code requires 10,000 minimum for any lots that is adjacent or botting NPORMP.

And also they're asking for year setback reduction from 20 feet where code requires 30 feet to match the MPOR and P requirement.

Staff did not support any of that.

Um and design and they also asked for a waiver to reduce street width.

Um so enterprise tambour recommended denial as well, and we received one card in support, 11 cars and two letters in opposition.

And the last item is a tentative map for two 12 single family residents.

Uh we did not support because we did not support the PANZC and waivers, and also they are having a hammerhead design, and that's not our preferred uh method of turnaround.

So for that reason, um staff recommended denial and enterprise tambour recommended denial as well.

That concludes our agenda tonight.

All right, thank you, staff.

Um I see I see one light on questions, Commissioner.

Commissioner, yes.

Oh, sorry.

Sorry.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, just a curiosity.

I know we're holding 30, uh 31, 30 34.

But how far is that property from this property, the last property on the agenda, number 49?

Is it north?

Is it south?

Because I'm seeing Miller, I'm seeing Buffalo here, and I saw the same thing on the other item.

So are they relatively close to each other?

Because we look at the overall picture, we're picking and poaching and shipping away somewhere.

So you said last item with the number 40.

Say 49.

Okay.

We'll just use 49.

So um last item is at Shelbourne and Miller Lane.

And item 30 is on with Buffalo.

And then you have Torino and Ford.

So are those streets because if you look to the east on number 49, Buffalo is just to the east.

So that's about three quarters of a mile apart.

And which one is north and which one is south?

I don't remember how this Shelborn is north.

So the Shellbourne Ford one, number 30 is north of this one, number 49.

I'd just like to look at over at a bigger overhead and be able to see where we're picking at.

But not tonight.

So it's 30 is Buffalo and Torino.

Um, and then the other ones are um Shellbourne and Miller.

And so Shelbourne and Miller is north of Buffalo Torino.

Okay.

Thank you.

Can I just have one more first?

Um, I I know we already went through the 35.

Is CP.

Do we still have CP?

Because CN would be the old C1.

Am I correct?

And C G would be the old C2.

CG is a combination of uh C1 and C2 in our new code.

So CP is the same.

So CPV had CP4.

C so C N is up is more intense than CP though.

CP, yeah, CP is still restrictive offices primarily.

C N is similar to C1, except it's actually supposed to be a little bit less intense than C1 was.

So what we did with the new code was all of the C1 and C2 became CG.

So we didn't take the C1 and make it C N.

We took the C1 and made it the same as essentially C2.

So what's in C B N C N is just it's really neighborhood serving commercial.

Right.

So rest restaurants are fine.

You know, shops that somebody can walk to.

Things like automotive uses that don't promote walkability or things that are not going to be allowed.

It's similar to what C1 used to be.

It really is similar to what C1 used to be.

And then if I could before you move on, number 11 with a vacation.

Hang on, staff.

I think Spice Chair had a question, or are we okay?

And I can't remember what I item it was, but you said the town board conditioned that as long as they get the proper permits.

Well, wouldn't they have to get the proper permits to move forward?

Why would that be a condition?

That is correct.

Yeah.

So anything you approve here or is going to be approved planning commissioner board.

Um it goes to building department for permits, and they need to comply with that.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

So the uh question earlier on number 11, vacation 260109.

Um the applicant actually sent in a letter to withdraw that.

So that was not provided to us.

I found that in an email box.

So 11 is being withdrawn.

It was withdrawn by the applicant.

Maybe maybe it's not the right time to do this, but there's one in my district which was they asked to be held by the town board because they know show number 24.

So I'm fine with holding that as well.

Um yeah, we can double check that too.

Yeah.

Yeah, I believe that's that was Spring Valley's recommendation holding till 428 because of no show.

So I support that if if no one objects on the commission.

Item number 24.

Um we can we can declare it now, and staff will read it in when we start our next meeting.

Oh, yeah, 100%.

I'm okay with it.

It's out of order.

It's out of order.

I think it would go.

I disagree.

Commissioner Reutemann, I didn't I couldn't find anything in our folder, so um for for that item that you mentioned.

Hello.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm sorry.

My understanding on the note here was that number 24.

For number 24.

I mean no.

Was that they were no show at the Spring Foul Town Board, and so that the town board recommended holding it until the 428 town board meeting.

And I support that.

If okay, sorry.

I thought you were saying should we check to see if they ask for a whole sorry about that or we draw?

No problem.

No, no, we we we we want to make sure we hold it.

Right.

So just when we do the beginning of the next agenda and we say you know, these are the items to be held or deleted.

Um we won't read that in, but if you want to state at that point that you want to add that one to the to the hold to go back to town board, we'll make sure it gets on there.

Um it'll have to be a month old so that we can get it on the next available agenda.

Okay.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

So that that concludes our briefing.

There's no more questions on the non routine action items.

Um so next item on the agenda is to discuss any new or upcoming ordinances.

Uh we do not have any.

Okay, we'll close that one.

And the next item is to discuss any administrative items.

We do not have any.

All right, we'll close that one.

And that brings us finally to uh last part of our briefing, which is um comments by the general public, so open up to a public comment.

Anyone can come down and speak to um the planning commission.

We can't act or vote or any any of the comments.

And now seeing no one coming down to make a public comment, I will end the briefing.