This time I'll call order the November twenty twenty twenty-five city council meeting of the City of Clearwater, Florida.

This time I'd like to announce that if you'd like to address the council tonight to please complete a comment card, comment cards are located by the clerk, seated to Ride of the Dais.

When called to speak, please hand your card to the clerk.

And then remain standing afterwards for the Pledge of Lee's good evening.

Helps us good counsel to listen politely to others as they share their points of view, always striving to serve the greater good.

Amid all the calamity, the conflict, the confusion that just screams for our leaders' attention.

We pray our council members will be filled with your spirit so they may serve with a special love.

A special love of a community that includes measures of safety for all of our citizens and visitors.

Guide and inspire them, we pray, with the words of St.

John the 23rd.

In essential matters, let there be unity.

In non-essential matters, liberty.

And it all matters.

Let there be charity.

We ask this in your glorious name, Father.

Amen.

Thank you, Father Spray.

Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Before we uh proceed further in tonight's meeting, I'd like to introduce our journey tonight to my very far left.

We have Deputy City Clerk Nicole Spray.

To her right, we have our city clerk, Rose Marie Cole.

Good evening.

To her right is our city attorney David Margolis.

Good evening.

His right is Councilmember Ryan Cotton.

Good evening.

To my left is Councilmember Mike Manino.

Good evening.

To my right is Councilmember David Albrut.

Good evening.

To his right is Vice Mayor Lena Techier.

Good evening.

And to her right is City Manager Jennifer Clark.

Good evening.

Yeah, we'll move to item 4.1 on the agenda, and that is November Service Award.

We have one tonight, and that is our 35-year employee award.

And for that, I'd like to call for Lisa Perkins from CGS Energy.

Lisa began her career at CGS Energy, formerly Clearwater Gas System as a temporary accounting clerk and was officially hired as a full-time accounting clerk November 26, 1990.

In 1995, she was promoted to a customer service representative in the gas sales office assisting in new customer counts.

In 1997, she transferred to the customer service department, and in 1999, she returned to the gas division as the LP customer service representative.

She handled all LP customers in 20 municipalities in two counties.

She supported drivers, field crews, and customers alike.

She was promoted to customer service specialist in 2015, taking on the CGS festival tracking previously handled by her supervisor, and taking over the LP billing detail previously handled by a UCS.

After a job audit was done in 2020, she was promoted to senior customer service representative.

For over 25 years, Lisa served as the LP gas expert, answering any and every question related to LP Gas until the sale in 2023.

She now serves as customer service representative too, continuing to grow and learn along the way in all departments.

Lisa's dedication has not gone unnoticed.

She's been named the City of Clearwater Employee of the Month three times, and in one exceptional year, 2002, was honored as both the City Employee of the Year and the CGS Employee of the Year.

Lisa continues to represent CGS Energy with enthusiasm and heart across a variety of charitable events and committees.

She has served as the member of the City Achievement Awards Committee for 25 years since its inception in 2000 and was the coordinator for the annual food basket drive for the last 17 years and was the chairperson for the United Way Day of Caring for 20 years.

She has also acted as team captain for both Paint Your Heart Out and the World Changes Program project.

Her compassion truly shined through an in moments of service and kindness.

One memorable example was when she assisted an elderly customer who had fallen in the parking lot.

Lisa not only accompanied the woman to the hospital, but returned the next day to drive her home, eventually becoming friends.

This is just one of the many instances where Lisa's empathy and care for others have stood out.

Beyond her professional contributions, Lisa is known as the resident photographer and poet of CGS Energy, capturing both joyful and solemn moments that have become cherished memories for her colleagues.

Her workspace is filled with pictures of her beloved daughter Heather, son-in-law Ricky, and granddaughter Jordan, chronologically every stage of their lives, a clear reflection of Lisa's love for family.

As the longest serving employee at CGS Energy, Lisa is a true wellspring of institutional knowledge, history, and connection.

She even participates in regular lunches with retired CGS associates to mean strong bonds that have been built over decades.

Whether through a warm smile, a thoughtful gift, or a heartfelt gesture, Lisa is always thinking of others.

Her big heart, dedication, unwavering spirit, make her not just a valued employee, but a vital part of the CGS Energy family.

CGS Energy is blessed to have such a dedicated associate as Lisa for over the for the past 35 years.

She exemplifies the values of superior public service and contributes to a high-performing government through her dedication, professionalism, and consistent excellence.

Thank you, Lisa, for serving CGS Energy and the citizens of Clearwater.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you for all your service.

Interesting.

But I'm just so impressed with Lisa's commitment to CGS Energy.

It's not just been a commitment to her job, her workplace.

It's been a commitment to our citizens in our city.

And Lisa, we thank you so much for your dedication to Clearwater.

That will move to item 4.2 on the agenda and Clearwater Civic Champion Award presentation.

For that, I'd like to call on Vice Mayor Nina Tech Sheer.

Thank you.

So as we're all aware, we're living in a world where negativity is bombarding us at an alarming rate, and it can be crippling.

It can be debilitating.

And so I think it's especially important to pivot and showcase or shine light on those who are positive and have a positive impact in our city and our community and to celebrate them.

So with that in mind, it is my great privilege today to present the Clearwater Civic Champion Award to someone who has made an immeasurable impact to our city.

Someone who brings energy, passion, and genuine love for Clearwater and to everything she does.

And that person is none other than the one and only Eleanor Lida.

Now I've known Eleanor for many years, and let me tell you, if you haven't had the pleasure of meeting her, you're missing out.

Eleanor is the person who walks into a room and the whole place just gets brighter.

She's the one with a smile that could light up downtown Clearwater, and her positivity is absolutely contagious.

But Eleanor isn't just about making people feel good.

She's a doer.

If there's something that needs doing, whether it's organizing an event, lending a hand, or yes, digging up plants from abandoned lots to help beautify our city, you can count on Eleanor to be there, sleeves rolled up and shovel in hand.

Eleanor is the first person to step in when there is a need, whether it's supporting local initiatives, starting up community groups like the East Gateway Association, or helping to organize projects that make Clearwater a better place.

Eleanor does it all.

She doesn't just talk about making change.

She jumps right in when others merely talk about someday.

Eleanor is already making things happen.

And of course, we can't forget her signature accessory, her I love Clearwater button.

Honestly, I think Eleanor might own a patent to it.

It's more than just an accessory, it's a lifestyle.

Her love for the city isn't just about what she wears.

It's something that she lives every single day.

She's a walking, talking testament to what it means to love your community.

Now I have to admit, one of the greatest mysteries about Eleanor is her age.

Seriously, no one knows her age.

It's like trying to figure out how many uh grains of sand in Clearwater Beach.

Impossible.

Um but I'll tell you this.

Though whatever her age is, she has the energy of someone who's just getting started.

I suspect she has secretly discovered the fountain of youth.

Because the rest of us are definitely struggling to keep up.

Eleanor, you inspire all of us, you inspire me.

Your dedication, tireless work ethic, and passion for Clearwater are nothing short of remarkable.

Your hold on a second.

I don't want to miss one word because you deserve every single one.

Um you're the kind of person who makes all of us want to do more, be more, and give more to our city.

So with all the admiration in the world, I present you with the Clearwater Civic Champion Award.

You've earned this recognition, and frankly, it's about time.

Thank you, Eleanor.

Thank you.

No, I guess you're confused.

What's the hell here?

Start over here.

Yeah, Eleanor.

I just want to say I'm using for this.

I wasn't expecting it.

And um, I just don't have words to express how I really feel.

I love you guys.

Thank you.

Thank you for everything.

Of course, I'd like to do that.

Thanks for the congratulations.

Thanks for everything.

Well, thank you for everything.

We should be thanking you.

You're doing so much.

You really supported me a lot.

So you should have to do that.

Thank you so much.

This is all for you.

Hey, Brian.

Thank you so much.

Congratulations.

Yes, thank you so much.

Thank you for all you do.

Thank you for the first time.

Eleanor is one of these people where uh I don't wish that I had her energy at uh at her age.

I wish I had her energy now.

She uh she just is the energizer buddy for our community and particularly the East Gateway area.

She has really uh really done an amazing work and touched so many lives with all your work, Eleanor.

Congratulations on this work.

Yeah, we'll move to item 5.1 on the agenda.

Approve the minutes of the November 6, 2025 City Council meeting.

Minutes.

Motion to approve the minutes.

So moved.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Closed unanimous.

Are there any items to be pulled from the consent agenda tonight?

Yes, council members.

I received a request for move items 6.4, 6.5, 6.6, 6.7, and 6.11.

You approve the consent agenda accept those items.

So moved.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Proposed mail.

Item 6.4, approve a purchase order to Pinellas Regional Information Management Enterprise for the personnel and operating expense of Prime and the amounts of 323,537 and authorized the appropriate official sex accusation.

Good evening, Mayor, City Council members, Michael Wallace, Deputy Chief of Police.

As Chief Gady mentioned at Monday's work session, the item before you is an annual payment to Prime, the Pinellas Regional Information Management Enterprise for 323,537 for the Hexagon Project.

Prime will reimburse the City of Clearwater 246,000 246,340 and 40 cents per CAD legacy system.

So the net to Prime will be 77,216.

I'll be happy to answer your question.

You want to hear from the public tonight, desire to speak to 96.

That's what I said.

It's a meaningless agreement because right here in the documentation it states Pinales County, that is PCSO, is responsible for all 911 call taking and dispatch for all Pinales County Fire Department, EMS, and first responders throughout Pinales County, Florida.

Now, on the other hand, there may be something positive here in that does erode some of the independence of these small, some people would say Pissanti, police departments, Largo, of course, Clearwater, and the others.

The good thing is that Pinales County Sheriff's Office oversees these organizations, especially Clearwater Police, who you know they really don't like very much.

Gandhi and Wallach, who made the trip down from Pascoe County Force and Slaughter, in the past have allowed Clearwater police officers to hold their official positions while engaged in public corruption.

They didn't stop it.

PCSO did.

The corruption that seems to be going on with Clearwater Police on a fairly regular basis.

You know, indicate how compromised Gandhi, Slaughter, and Mr.

Wallach really are.

Since it's meaningless, you should vote no.

Seeing none, is there any council discussion?

Notice there a motion.

Move to approve agenda item 6.4.

Second.

All is in favor?

I proposed unanimous.

Agenda item 6.5.

Approved acceptance of the Florida Department of Transportation speeding and aggressive driving 2026 grant award in the amount of 75,000 dollars for police overtime and authorize the appropriate officials to execute the same.

Good evening, Mayor.

See Council Member again, Mike Walk, Deputy Chief of Police.

As Chief Getchy mentioned mentioned on Monday's work session, the item before you is a $75,000 F grant overtime opportunity for speeding and aggressive driving.

The grant contains both a education component and a public engagement component.

The reason why we're here before you is there's an identification clause for the grant.

I'll be happy to answer any questions.

But tonight we get nothing from Mr.

Wallack.

The only takeaway from Gandhi's presentation is that traffic enforcement in Clearwater is sloppy and discretionary.

It's a sloppy and discretionary policing activity.

Clearwater police has a history of questionable clean traffic stops.

Nicholas Paloma, false imprisonment, and sexual battery following a traffic stop.

Let's not forget Bio Lou Hatcher, Mr.

Wallack, after years of complaints and warnings, some of them directed to Gandhi and Wallack in person.

Four years of progressive discipline guidelines didn't stop his bad behavior.

Finally, he was terminated.

This money may only cause and allow more questionable traffic stops by Clearwater Police.

Mr.

Rector, that should hit you at home.

It wasn't enforced when Trevor Rector was pulled over and taken to jail.

Well, you know, stick to the agenda item.

That's which is about granting.

This is about traffic enforcement.

You want me to name some other people?

Nothing to do with the grant.

Stop interrupting me, sir.

You're out of order.

You're out of order.

So stick to the talking about the there is no safeguards in place to make sure this money is not misused.

The project activity contact is our old friend, Lieutenant Jared Stiff, who used to be the sergeant at arms here.

Now this public document does provide his email.

So, you know, anybody that's got a question about traffic enforcement, email him.

But even better, it gives his cell phone number.

727 2247193.

Also has his cell phone number on it.

Call this guy.

Vote no.

You're out of order.

Does anyone else desire to speak to this agenda item?

If not, is there a motion?

Motion to approve agenda item 6.5.

Second.

All those in favor?

Opposed.

Unanimous.

Gen item 6.6.

I approve a five-year agreement with Axon Incorporated Scottsdale, Arizona for Axon Sky Hero Drum packages consisting of drones, robots, poll cameras, associated accessories warranty, and training in the amount of $96,760 eighty cents in accordance with City Code of Warren's Section 2.563 perennial A single source and authorize your permanent officials to execute same.

Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor Counsel.

I'm here today to seeking to replace existing equipment due to the equipment being an end of life.

Your placement equipment is going to be purchased through Axon and is the Sky Hero Technology package discussed during the work session.

The package consists of interior drones, robots, and poll cameras.

It comes with a full warranty for five years with built-in replacements and upgrades during the term.

Happy to answer any questions.

Mr.

Libera, I've ruled you out of order before you begin, and the time starts right.

I've ruled you out of order twice.

I'd ask you to stick to this agenda item, which talks about drones, robots, and I will uh take that under advisement.

And I appreciate it if you don't interrupt me because that's been a warning.

You're out of order twice.

There he goes again.

Axion.

Now we heard Mr.

Gandhi.

No, it wasn't, it was this guy, whoever he is.

This is money for drones, robots, pole cameras, and associated accessories, whatever that means.

If this equipment is at the end of its life, let it die.

There's reasons why Clearwater Police is reviled and criticized so much.

And this is one reason why, because people don't want to be under surveillance all the time.

In this agreement, Clearwater Police must share de-identified segments of agency content.

Whatever that is.

Maybe you can answer that.

But you don't because these people are too scared to answer ask a question.

De-identified segments of agency contact.

What is that?

So Clearwater Police is not only going to collect random stuff on everybody and give it to Axion, but de-identified could mean that Clearwater Police stages events, hasn't recorded, you know, to alter reality to their benefit.

This is nothing short of wrongful mass surveillance.

And if it's worn out, let it go.

This agreement and resultant data gathering defines totalitarianism, Mr.

Rector.

Total surveillance.

The free speech rights, Mr.

Rector, that are guaranteed in the U.S.

Constitution.

So I would uh petition all of you to not be scared of this or be coward, powered into a corner.

This is a vote no.

I desire to speak to agenda item 6.6.

If you're saying none, is there any council discussion?

If not, is there a motion?

Motion to approve agenda item 6.6.

Second.

Those in favor?

I opposed unanimous.

Agenda item 6.7.

I approve first amendment to the clear water undergrounding of electric utilities project interlocal agreement with the L Sun Coast Transit Authority and authorize your private officials to execute same evening, council members.

Marcus Williams at Public Works Director uh is discussed at the work session.

This is uh will be a pass through from PSTA for some additional work they have to do for the CSX uh with Duke.

So it's just a straight master for us.

Okay.

Does anyone hear from the public tonight deciding to speak to agenda item 6.7?

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor, members of the council, city manager, whoops, city attorney's not here.

Um good evening.

I am still Bill Joneson, and I thank you for your service to our fine city.

I rise tonight to suggest a pause in this agenda item for the greater good of our struggling downtown.

Clearly, this underground electrical drop to the CSX signal box is needed.

But this is a chance to put a pause on this project and address a bigger character, address the bigger character of Myrtle as Clearwater's major north south main street.

Main streets in this country are generally not burdened by above ground power lines.

The development code section 3-912 requires undergrounding of power lines when development occurs, unless it's impractical, impracticable.

Clearly, it is not impracticable because the city is doing this at the new city hall, just down the street.

But new construction is underway on the northwest corner of Chestnut and Myrtle as well.

Here's another picture of that.

Instead of undergrounding at that building, an erector set of extensions have been appended to the existing power poles.

Let's take the opportunity to underground all of the above ground power lines along Myrtle between Chestnut and Cleveland, or better, between Turner and Drew Street.

These are in Clearwater's downtown CRA, so it would be appropriate to use CRA funds, if not funded by other developers or Duke Energy, because at the end of September, the city had 20 million dollars in the CRA special development fund.

The future holds great potential for the development of the current county complex properties downtown.

One hopes that the quality of that development will be like Water Street in Tampa.

Let's set the level of standard for this project as well, which will be the gateway to our future downtown.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

If not, is there any council discussion?

If not, is there a motion?

Move to approve agenda item 6.7.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed unanimous.

Approved the 2026 city council meeting schedule.

Council members as reviewed during the uh work session.

Uh review of the anomalies, but I did want to make note in terms of one of the things that council did want me to do was schedule the uh strategic planning session.

I could not find uh a date that worked with all the calendars, so I did remove that date from the proposed calendar, and I'll bring back an uh at another time when we can find a date that works for everyone.

So but otherwise, there were no other changes with the consensus of um keeping the making those changes, canceling the one meeting in March, and then moving the April meeting, the second meeting to the following week, which would be April 20th and the 23rd.

Were we moving the there was a January meeting that we were gonna move?

Strategic one the strategic plan is the one that I remove from the proposed schedule.

I'll bring back once I can get a date that works for everyone.

Okay, so there'll be no meeting that week, I guess.

Yeah, so it that's why it's eliminated from the counter.

Okay.

Um so is there anyone here from the public tonight?

So I speak to 6.11.

I'm Mr.

Haluba, and I do have a copy of this proposed meeting schedule, which is still somewhat in flux, and that's perfectly okay.

We got a ways to go before it's 2026.

But hopefully, one of the things that can change is that I don't see anything on this meeting schedule about allowing any public comment.

And I think that's just you know, downright wrongful.

Nothing about public comment.

This city council continues to suppress free speech, and it continues to circumvent the rights promised citizens by the US Constitution.

It's it's amazing that you all have come to this conclusion.

There's no town hall meetings on here, and there may be a reason why.

You know, the situation.

But one reason the town hall meetings were a disaster is Mr.

Rector, you allowed Frank Anthony Figarola, a clearwater police employee to heckle everybody, not once, twice, and it disrupted the meetings that you were in charge of.

So we're not having any more town hall meetings because they were disruptive.

I don't think that's a good reason, but allowing anybody, including people that you don't like, who I could name, to become, you know, a heckler's veto on the proceedings, is just wrongful, but I really believe that this schedule should have some time on it for public comment some way or another, and it does not as we stand here today.

Is anyone else here tonight desire to speak to agenda item 6.11?

Hearing saying none, is there any council discussion?

If not, is there a motion?

Move to approve agenda item 6.11.

Second.

Those in favor, I opposed unanimous.

Approve amendments in the community development code updating the city's plating process to address statutory changes pursuant to Senate Bill 784 2025, an act relating to platten and pass ordinance 9856 on first reading.

Good evening, Lauren Matske, Planning and Development.

So tonight I'll be presenting two ordinances that are codifying changes that were made based on the this year's legislative session.

Um this ordinance, which is 9856 25 addresses the city's plating process, amending the code to move the authority to approve a final plat from the city council to the community development coordinator, which for the record is the planning and development director.

So this would make it an administrative process consistent with the statutes.

I reviewed our process and and how the current plotting process works and how we we were working with the city surveyor to identify how this process would work.

But in short, the final plats they'll continue to be reviewed by the city surveyor who will sign off on anything related to that his statutory authority, and then the community development coordinator will make sure that the development review committee reviews to ensure there's conformance with the preliminary plat that was approved, or the prior preliminary plat, sorry.

So this ordinance also incorporates the statutory changes required for notices at both stages of the platting process, as well as some staff proposed clarifications to the minor lot adjustment provisions.

So as noted in the staff report, the proposed amendments are consistent with Clearwater 2045, which is the city's comprehensive plan, and further the purposes of the community development code.

The community development board considered this item at its meeting on Tuesday and unanimously recommended approval.

May we go ahead and get a reading on this?

Mayor, we have ordinance number 9856-25, an ordinance of the city of Clearwater, Florida, making amendments to the community development code by amending Article 4, development review and other procedures, division 7, subdivision PLATS, Section 4-701.

Purpose and applicability, Section 4-702.

Required approval, Section 4-704.

Staff review and report decision, Section 4-706, final plat review, staff and section 4-709 standards for review, adding new section 4-704 submittal of plating application deleting section 4-705.

Community development board decision and section 4-707.

City Commission review decision final plat and renumbering, renaming sections accordingly, certifying consistency with the city's comprehensive plan and proper advertisement, providing for separability and providing an effective date.

Okay.

Motion to approve agenda item 7.1.

So we're second.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Unanimous.

Okay.

Gender item 7.2.

Approve amendments of the community development code, updating certain development review processes and time frames to reflect current processes and address statutory changes pursuant to Senate Bill 1080 2025, an act relating to local government land regulation.

And pass ordinance 9857-25 on first reading.

Good evening again, Lauren Matske, planning and development.

So as just mentioned, this addresses the development time frames changes that came forth in Senate Bill 1080.

As I noted at work session, these have previews have already been implemented by staff as they're already in effect.

So this codifies those changes into our community development code.

And also many of the time frames were already part of our processes over many years in advance of this.

So in lieu of walking through everything in detail again because we went through this at work session, I'll just touch on a few things for the benefit of the public.

So regarding the notifications and time frames, the ordinance adds a requirement that notification when applic that there be notification when applications are submitted.

It provides applicants time to address any issues with application if there are any with application completeness and it codifies the time frame by when the city must approve, approve with conditions or deny any applications based on their the type of approval required, and that would be either 120 or 180 days.

One would be that the development review committee would be given 25 days to make a determination of legal sufficiency from the application deadline, where today it's 18 days to make that determination, and it's based on the deterrent that the letter issuing that that the application is complete.

So again, this ties to when the clock starts and it allows staff to not be penalized if we issue our completeness letters earlier in the process.

Additionally, requiring that the community development board meeting be within 38 days instead of 33 days from the DRC's finding of legal sufficiency, and this is just kind of the math that works based on some of the longer months.

It gives a little bit of room there.

So these are all detailed on page three of the staff report.

The second type of change was to the minimum standard development review process, the minimum standard development process, sorry, which is an administrative review process, or since since my understanding is since the code was implemented in 1999, staff has always processed these as building permits instead of requiring a first round of review prior to the applicant being eligible for building permit.

So this formally codifies the practice that's been in place for a long time.

And last staff proposed a variety of ad hoc changes to improve implementation or readability to bring consistency with current practices.

These were all outlined on pages four and five of the staff report.

So these um, in short, these are found to be consistent with the city's comprehensive plan and the community development code.

The community development board considered these at their meeting on Tuesday and unanimously recommended approval.

We have ordinance number 9857-25, an ordinance of the City of Clearwater, Florida, making amendments to the community development code by amending Article 3 development standards, Section 3-914, general standards for level one and level 2 approvals by amending Article 4, development review and other procedures, division one, required permits and approvals, division two, general procedures, division three permitted uses, level one, division four permitted uses level two, division five appeals, and division six level three approvals by amending Article 5, decision making and administrative bodies, division 7, community development coordinator certifying consistency with the city's comprehensive plan and proper advertisement, providing for severability and providing for an effective date.

Hearing seeing none, is there any council discussion?

There's no discussion.

Is there a motion?

Move to approve agenda item 7.2.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed unanimous.

8.1 is the second reading of ordinance number 9854-25.

That is an ordinance of the city of Clearwater, Florida, amending code of ordinances, appendix A, schedule of fees, rates, and charges.

Article 24, public works, fees, rates, and charges.

Amending section three, rates for wastewater collection, providing for severality and providing for an effective date.

What give this card to Mayor Richter?

Council members.

In the rings of the uh sewage water.

I'm gonna do my best.

But it's hard.

And I believe I speak for a couple more people besides myself.

So I'm just gonna make a short argument because I know it's not gonna change much, but maybe we can compromise on something.

Okay.

We get three days if we're late with our water.

Price is going up, so chances are somebody's not gonna be able to pay the deal.

Why not for the first five years, just like the razors going, you give us five days of grace period?

That's a work week.

40 hours a day, right there, 40 hours a week.

I could pay my water bill if I had just that extra time, being that it's gonna go up.

Okay.

I'm not gonna argue the problem try and throw some solutions up there.

I notice that we have two methods of contacting people that are basic when we can't pay up either, or when we late.

Call or send a letter.

Email, let's do that, and let's also do text.

But I believe you can do that.

You just gotta get online and put it in.

Why not make that automatic?

That way, somebody that's working in a plant that's working in a um a warehouse that can't use his phone would at least hear the text.

And that way it gives them a head up.

I gotta go pay my water bill because the increase went up.

Six dollars and one cent.

That's a lot of money.

Six dollars and one cent.

I did some math.

Somebody told me it's about 70,000 households in Clearwater.

I don't know if that's correct or not.

But my math comes out to next month.

That's gonna be five million dollars plus some change.

I'm from Saluda, South Carolina.

Where I'm from, that's a lot of money.

That's a lot of money.

I'm sure y'all gonna do what's right in terms of putting it where it's supposed to go, but where it's coming from is people that can barely make it right now.

Not everybody.

Most people can afford the six dollars.

I'm just not one of them, you know.

And I'm not alone.

There's other people that can't afford it as well.

You know what $6 to get me?

Walmart got a 12 pack of oodles and noodles for $3.97.

That'll feed my family a folk for two weeks if I get two of them.

Just from that raise of six dollars some change.

That's the big picture that I look at.

Obviously, it's millions of dollars because after a whole whole year, it's gonna be what $25 million that you get.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

And I do apologize for taking over, you know.

Yeah, taking over time.

No, you're you're fine.

But yeah, but that's I just wanted to make that, you know.

Maybe you can you can do something with them five days.

Give us more time.

Thank you to pay it.

Thank you for sharing.

Thank you so very much.

Anyone else here from the public decided to speak to this journey?

I'm Mr.

Haluva.

The sewer rate was always predicated on the amount of water that was used, and now that's gonna be broken out and charged a minimum amount, like most of us have a minimum amount for the water itself.

We have a minimum use charge for gas.

We have a ridiculous charge for reclaimed water that they call a availability fee, whether we use it or not, Miss Poyer.

Beyond that, recycling is a proven disaster and a joke.

Anyone that follows the recycle truck finds out it goes the same place as the brown ones do some days, and I brought this up to Mr.

Slaughter in the past, the very same brown truck in the morning, picks up the garbage and comes by in the afternoon and picks up the recycling bin.

And he says, Well, they they hose the truck out in between.

But we get charged for it, whether we use it or not, and on my street, not a lot of people are using recycling, they're all getting billed for it.

These overcharges that are allowed by Clearwater Uities, they're in violation of enterprise funding accounting rules.

You're supposed to get something from the utilities, not a promise of availability.

I don't get billed green fees for the golf course because I don't go to the golf course.

So why do I get billed reclaimed water fee when I don't use reclaimed water?

It's wrong.

Clear water utilities in these respects is a publicly operated criminal organization.

It collects money against the rules, actually against the law for things that are not delivered.

And if Slaughter was here tonight, he'd say we do it because we can get away with it.

That needs to stop.

If not, is there any council discussion?

I I just want to add that uh what we're doing tonight on this, and we talked about it at the work session, is we're just uh correcting the mistake that was made in the prior package uh fees that we uh approved before that we did an outside company came in, did an analysis, they showed us the rates of other cities around us, including Tampa, St.

Petersburg, and Eden, a host of cities, and it showed that uh to the point we just made, these are enterprise funds, so we we have to maintain our system with the fees that we collect for this type of utility, and it showed that other municipalities are also unfortunately having to increase their fees to fix aging infrastructure and some things that have been uh been needed for a long time.

So we don't want to do this and didn't want to do this when we approved it before.

Uh but unfortunately all the municipalities are having to do it because of the aging infrastructure and utilities that we have.

So with that, I did want to ask um uh the gentleman did make, and by the way, you did really well for somebody who um said they did they were uncomfortable up here.

Um you did really well, but you did raise some things that I was curious about.

Do we have any flexibility?

And he was talking about some communications on uh if city manager, if you might explain to us what do we have some opportunity to maybe add some of these enhancements that he was talking about to communication?

Sure, absolutely.

Um, and a lot of the you know, we do have multiple different ways to communicate.

I was actually just looking at our website to make sure that I had a good understanding of that.

But um, what I want to do is we'll make sure that we have someone from our team reach out to him personally because I also want to talk to him about the interpretation of the three days, um, and also want to make sure that he's aware of all the resources that we have available to help with utility bills.

So we will make sure that we have somebody from our team reach out to him.

Yeah, he has some good questions.

Absolutely.

So we want to answer those for you, sir.

So, with that, any further discussion?

Councilman Benino?

Yeah, Mayor, thank you.

I thank you for um giving a brief explanation to it.

I think I just want to add to it that we feel those very same struggles and pressures in the community.

Um we feel your concerns, you're not alone, as you said.

There are a lot of people.

Um, those inflationary pressures that hit yourself, your homes, our homes, uh, are the same inflationary pressures that us cities and municipalities uh endeavor either uh as well, and we are not immune to them, so we we incur those costs too.

Um I I feel I feel your pain.

Um I thank you for getting up here as the mayor said you did do a wonderful job for your first time you have me full.

Uh you you did a good you definitely did a great job.

Uh but I I think we as a business and as a city, we have to make uh those decisions sometimes that are tough in order to make sure we are running um in an efficient system, uh, and there are costs in our infrastructure to maintain it and to keep it beyond safe and and working properly, and this is one of the things we have to do uh in our projections of going forward to make sure uh that this is sufficiently working for our community.

Uh, but I do I do feel sympathy for the gentleman's story.

Thank you.

Mayor, if I may, I just wanted to add, and it's something that we discussed when we were going through the rates, um, the rate increase is that you know we the rate increases because of projects that we have planned, um, and we keep a really close eye on our ability to actually make those projects come to fruition.

Should those projects be um pushed back or delayed or untimely, we will make sure that we adjust those pro the rates accordingly to you know make sure that we are not collecting more from our residents than what we need to complete the projects and the manner and time frame in which we need to meet them.

Uh Mike Flanning Public Utilities Interim Director.

I just want to piggyback on what uh city manager said there.

We're also aggressively going after grant funding to see if we can impact these rates positively as well.

Yeah, just for the public, we are seeking grant funding for it all, but uh, but the one of the studies of the reports we got back and advice from staff is over a period of time, um just consolidating three wastewater treatment plants into one, just that project alone is over a billion dollars that that we're gonna have to cover over a span of seven or eight years.

So uh I know the numbers that uh were shared that sounds like we're we're making you know profiting, we're not uh we've got to somehow figure out how we've got two plants that are very vulnerable for um for a hurricane and uh time is a little bit of the essence to to upgrade those.

So the plan is to consolidate three into one, but that project alone is a billion dollars.

So uh we'll see grant funding, and we we've been working hard.

I was in Washington this week, and we've got uh another legislative session coming up in Tallahassee where we're asking our legislators to help us as much as possible to fund these projects, but until we get those grants appropriated, we just have to spend spend what we generate from fees, and so that's uh a large reason.

And again, when they showed us the scale, we we were not we were we were in the lower half of our uh of our user fees for cities in our area.

So uh again, we don't want to do this.

We would like to get grants, we like to cover as much as possible.

Um, but it's necessary to provide this basic service to our citizens going forward.

Any any further discussion?

Okay, if not, is there a motion?

Move to approve agenda item 8.1.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye, opposed, unanimous.

Thank you.

8.2 second reading of ordinance number 9855-25 and ordinance of the city of Clearwater, Florida, repealing sections 2.160 through 2.64, 2.191 through 2.195, and 2.231 2.234, establishing sections 2.101 through 2.104, amending the composition of the sister cities advisory board in section 2.251, providing an effective date.

So you want to hear from the public desire to speak to agenda item 8.2.

Okay.

See now, is there any council discussion?

Now is there a motion?

Motion to approve agenda item 8.2.

Second.

All is in favor, aye.

Opposed, unanimous.

June item nine.

Okay.

City attorney reports.

Well, this council has questions to make uh I I well, okay.

Um I have a question about a letter that you shared with us that was sent to the attorney general by uh I believe sent by council member Albright.

Um I I guess there was a letter we learned today that you sent to the attorney general.

Uh can you describe what it what the intent was and what it what it said?

Well, yeah, uh the intent was to get clarification on um exactly what we do at Garden Avenue because I know it's gonna come up.

They're church said they're going to go ahead and uh reapply, and I I've read uh the document that our city attorney uh wrote, and I've read the letters that Mr.

Potter wrote, and they're at odds with each other.

And then we have a letter from the uh attorney general that says be careful, you don't want to uh you know do anything against the religious uh uh they didn't mention the church, but he said the petitioner, which is the church of Scientology.

So I thought that I would write a letter for my benefit.

It didn't have your name on it, it didn't have anybody's name on it, but mine, and I wrote it to give some clarification on if it gets applied for again what we should do.

So that was my intent.

Um I sent it out the beginning of the week, and um uh nobody else was involved in it.

Uh and I don't know if I'll get a response, but you know, hopefully uh we'll get some clarification on it.

So is this the letter that you said looks like it, yes.

But but it is I mean it's got the city seal at the top, so it's got the city seal and it's got my name on it, and not have anybody else's name on this, and this is not illegal to have a city stationary with my name on it and nobody else's name on it because I wanted him to know it was from a city councilman with the city of Clearwater, and that's the way I signed it.

David Oliverton City Council member.

So hopefully he'll write back to me if he doesn't.

Um that won't help me any, but um that was my letter to him personally, it wasn't representative of anybody else on the council, it wasn't representative of you, wasn't representative of the city attorney or the city manager, it was for me.

So you're asking for an opinion, though, it looks like.

Could you please advise whether the city owns that that's acting on behalf of the city or trying to act on behalf of we we didn't discuss asking the attorney general for an opinion?

So I I'm I'm really bothered by um did you collaborate with the city attorney or the city manager to generate this letter?

No, but I've made it.

I've made it everybody aware on this diet.

We haven't talked about it since May, but since we got that letter that was addressed to you, um, you know, I just want to make sure that we're not discriminating against anyone, and that we're that I'm following Florida law.

So that's what I've asked him to advise me on, and um we'll wait and see what happens.

Well, seeking an attorney general opinion is something that we should do collectively, in my opinion.

It's not something we should do around the other four of us.

If anyone of the five of us is going to write a letter to the attorney general asking for an opinion, we should have discussed this in a work session.

This should not be where one of us does this.

And Sid, you had no knowledge of this, right, City Attorney.

Um I will answer the direct question that I've been asked.

Uh I learned about it on Monday morning from the city manager.

I did not know either that it was being contemplated, being considered, or that it was sent.

I first learned about it on Monday morning.

Yeah.

So did anyone from Scientology or your representative from Scientology ask you to write this letter?

I wrote it because I needed to have I need to be advised whether our attorney is correct or Mr.

Potter is correct.

They both seem uh to have quoted uh different uh I guess court cases that uh in my mayor.

This isn't for you, this is for my benefit.

If I'm gonna have to decide on something, I want to be advised.

I want to get as much advice as I can on it, okay.

Uh can I say something real quick?

Because which is why we have the city attorney.

He has every right to do that according to Florida Statute 16.01 subsection three that states that the attorney general may, upon written requisition of an officer of a county municipality, other unit, or local government, or political subdivision, give an official opinion and legal advice in writing on any question of law relating to official duties of the requesting officer.

An elected official is an officer of a municipality.

I agree that maybe we should have talked about it at a work session, but each one of us has the right to get an opinion of the attorney general.

That doesn't mean he has to respond.

I mean, we can see there's been other uh municipalities that individual officers who have reached out, I think, over the tenure of this attorney general.

I mean, is that true?

It has it's uh it's torn a lot of cities apart, um, but it yet has.

I mean, I'm not not being funny, I'm not being sarcastic because the the issue is this, just in terms of process.

Um, Mr.

Todd's absolutely correct.

Um, the statute, I think, is clear that the attorney general has the right to give advisory opinions upon the request of any local official, and that is in the plain language of the statute.

I don't think there was anything illegal with what Mr.

Albert did.

Historically, the Florida Attorney General, at least in the years that I have been alive and the years that I can remember, has not given advisory opinions except on the request of a collegial body.

Generally speaking, the attorney general, whether it was Pam Bondy, whether it was Charlie Christ, Bill McCollum, Ashley Moody took the position that only the collegial body would be able to make that request, even though the statute I think is pretty clear that the attorney general could grant it.

The reasons historically have been that the attorney general does not want to get involved in controversial local issues and do not want to tear cities and counties apart or get in the middle of dragged into controversial issues, except when it's been discussed in the sunshine, so that way it's transparent to voters that we are in fact seeking an opinion and that it represents the will of the body.

However, uh, Mr.

Conn's absolutely correct that the attorney general has always had the right upon the request of any elected official to give those opinions.

It's just that candidly before our current attorney general, it never happened, as far as I knew.

In fact, the policy of the attorney general for many, many years had been he or she is not going to do something like that.

We now have a different attorney general who has a different view on it and is more open to giving those opinions upon the request of one elected official.

And candidly, I think that's something that cities and counties are having to navigate.

So we are starting to see situations across the state, not many, but I have seen a couple already where a council member or county commissioner has made a request to the attorney general without the knowledge or consent of the collegial body, or in some cases without the knowledge of the city attorney or county attorney, and uh it has caused quite a bit of friction.

So that's that's kind of where we're at procedurally.

Uh Clearwater certainly has no precedent for individuals filing those or seeking those.

The two that I've been involved in since I've been city attorney did come to the collegial body for review.

However, again, Mr.

Conn is absolutely correct that there's nothing illegal about the attorney general responding to this if he said chooses, or is there anything illegal about Mr.

Albert choosing to seek the attorney general's advice?

No, no one no one said that there was something illegal.

I didn't say it was illegal.

So the response that this wasn't illegal, no one's saying that.

I didn't say illegal, Mr.

Mayor.

I said he has the right.

My question was my question was did anyone from Scientology, a representative from Scientology ask you to write this letter.

I met with Scientology, and but they didn't specifically ask me to write a letter.

They because I still I talked to them before that I was you know, I I voted both ways on this.

And the last time I you know said I was gonna vote against it because I I just felt like I needed to have advice from somebody.

And since Uthmeyer, the attorney general did chime in on this, I thought I would get an opinion from him.

So that's why I wrote it.

So they did ask you.

I didn't write it because they asked me.

And and you wrote it completely on your own, didn't you?

Yes, I did, uh, mayor.

I don't know what you're doing.

You know, I've a lot of things have been swirling around this last week about why is the date on there put in well, I didn't have the date on there, and I asked to put the date on before I sent it out on Monday.

I wrote that myself.

It didn't get written by anybody else, and it's none of your business.

It's my I'm asking the attorney general for an opinion for me.

Not for you.

I already know where you stand on it.

So it doesn't sound like don't cross-examine me, examine me on this.

I mean, this is for me.

Well, it's important to the citizens of Clearwater.

Yes, it is, exactly.

That's why I did it.

Whether or not you were lobbying to write these.

No, I wasn't lobbied to do it.

And and I've stated this before on the dais.

Before May when we were all talking about it, I said, you know, I've got a real problem here understanding that you know what exact law is here.

Do we own it?

Do we own that?

I've heard that we don't own it.

That is a platted right-of-way.

And why are we treating this different?

I want to get an opinion on that.

Well, we have an opinion from our city attorney who wrote a memo.

Um, I read his memo, 30 pages of memo.

We asked him to write.

Okay.

So uh, you know, I I like the attorney general.

I support the attorney general.

I can tell you that uh he is not a trier effect.

Uh if you look at the web page, an attorney general opinion does not have any control over us, it can't tell us what to do.

He may not respond.

And the reason why is because we all in the practice of the law, we know there's something you can't ex parte a judge.

You can't go around the court system and lobby the judge for your position.

You have to work within so that the judge is not working on this, he's working strictly on the facts.

My experience here is my conversations with them is that they're being lobbied hard by Scientology to give an opinion that they want.

And I I again I like the attorney general, but I don't know how he can be unbiased with with the lobbying that they have already done, and how they've tried to frame the question.

I've said all along that the way to decide this is to have a judge impartial, no lobbying.

We put the facts, the judge decides the facts and applies the law to the facts.

And and then we find out what it is.

And maybe perhaps we do that.

To me, this is and did you did you tell anybody not to tell the the rest of us or tell the city attorney?

No, I brought it in as a draft, and I said, Look, I may be changing this over the weekend.

This was on a Friday.

I brought it in.

I just said, look, I don't want to send this out until I know that this is what I want to say.

That's as simple as that was, and then Sunday night I sent it out, okay?

That's why you got it Monday morning or whenever you read your email, because it goes out to everybody.

It wasn't uh anybody in particular.

I said, don't show I just didn't need to get it released until I was ready to get it released.

And I released it Sunday night.

Okay.

I'll let the vice mayor go first.

Thank you.

Um I was actually going to uh request it to be put in two weeks on the agenda.

Um solely because I've this has created a lot of noise, and with that causes confusion and misinterpretation of the fact.

So I actually appreciate the opportunity to clarify, which I think you did, uh, which was this was Councilmember Albreton's uh initiative and action and did so solely.

So I personally um had nothing to do with it, and I think that was important, so there's no misunderstandings.

Um when I learned about it, I gotta be honest, I was I was taken aback because in my view, that's it's like knocking on the same door that we all agreed to shut.

I thought this was resolved.

Um we all communicate, well, most of us communicated with the office, and we we moved on.

Um so when I'm thinking if you know, if you still want clarification, I thought there would be better options than this route.

Um, such as getting a second opinion from the private sector, where you're actually hiring an attorney with the expertise, and would have the interest of the city solely.

Um, and that's just one option.

But I was taken aback because I just feel like we're beating our I don't understand why I don't understand the ultimate goal.

If you want clarification, then it would be an unbiased attorney with the expertise behind it rather this than the same person that we all agreed, that chapter has been closed.

You know what I mean?

I just think it's an ineffective method, um, and a method I don't think is gonna have any positive outcomes.

Yeah, that's been reading.

Mayor, thank you.

Um I too uh with respect to what has been said, found out Monday, the same way everyone else did.

I had I had no idea it was um being thought of or or was written until after the fact.

Um I was not supportive uh of that um direction.

I kind of, in my opinion, as a dais, as a city and city leadership, uh we put a task and a duty on this city attorney, because we are not in this field of expertise, uh, to give us the guidance on it, and you wrote a very thorough 30-page memorandum.

Uh we had opportunities at that point to agree with you or disagree with you.

Um I think we all agreed with you and said that this is your this is your profession, this is your job, your duty, and you give us as as a city and as a dais legal advice and direction on how to proceed with all sorts of topics, especially this one.

Uh in my in my mind, you did that.

Uh we got behind it uh and supported it with uh uh united as a dias.

There was no no questions.

I would I wouldn't have done it.

Um I wouldn't have handled it that way, but with that said, I do respect the gentleman, and he has the right to, he has the ability to.

Mr.

Cotton did read the the statute that stated that.

I I don't think sitting on the dais and continuing for us to pepper question and ask for and search for motives or why um it's done, it's written, it's mailed, um, it's emailed.

Uh we are waiting now with uncertainty on what that response may be.

It would be a waste of time for us to talk about the multitude of directions this could go, because I think we would all sit here and admit this could go many, many different directions.

Um, for the good of the city, uh for the bad of the city, uh, and everything in between.

Um so I I respect the gentleman's decision, he has that.

He is an elected official, he has that right, and I will continue to do that.

Doesn't mean that's how um I I would have pursued uh with it, and I do still stand by that as a city we asked for the advice and guidance we were given it at that point, like the vice mayor said that door was closed.

I feel that the ball was out of our court, um, and it's on to whatever anybody in the community at that point wanted to move forward, it was in in their hands and and not ours.

But I do hope we don't continue uh to go back and forth and and question uh the gentleman for for motives and stuff.

I think it's done.

Uh we understand his reasoning, he stated it, he had the right, and I think we should move on uh and find some way to celebrate the holiday spirit.

Okay, you're gonna leave me with that.

Thanks.

Appreciate it.

Um, you know, I mean, we did all find out about it Monday.

Uh and and you know, I I think we just sit and wait.

We have to see what's going on.

But I will have to say that it's disappointing and it is distasteful with the way that you just handled that, Mr.

Mayor.

That is like to call him out the way you did is his lack of leadership.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, well, it it's very disappointing that uh one of our colleagues would go around the four of us.

You were just as surprised.

I think we all know he has the right.

We all well, okay, but to do that um to do that quietly, not wanting us to know, not wanting the city attorney to know.

That's that's not how we work together.

That's very disappointing.

That's we all know when we send something.

When I released it, when I released it Sunday night, everybody was gonna see it because that's when I released it into public record.

Before that, it was in draft form.

It's not that I didn't want anybody to see it.

I just hadn't really completed my thought process on it yet.

So there's nothing nefarious about why I did it.

It's done, okay, and maybe we'll get a maybe I'll get a response.

It's not to all of us, it's to me.

And maybe I'll get a response, and maybe I won't.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

We'd like to see that clarification.

Because could you please advise whether the city owns the section of Garden Avenue in question, or if it is a platted right of way that the applicant can petition to vacate without paying fair market value?

I don't know that it's within the attorney general's purview to settle property disputes between two property owners.

And you're really asking for an opinion on a private civil uh dispute between two property owners of who owns the property.

I don't think, and I even looked on the website today, reviewing the rules for asking for an attorney general opinion.

I don't think that falls within what uh what they normally issue opinions on.

But I would like I would like to direct the city attorney to at least clarify with the attorney general what you just said, or we'll work with him to help clarify that you're not asking for an opinion, an attorney general opinion for the city.

You're asking for an opinion for yourself.

Yeah.

Which you could have asked any any attorney, you could have engaged your own attorney to get if you didn't like the opinion that we're getting or trust the opinion from our city attorney.

But I would like to have us clarify with the um with the attorney general.

The city's not asking for an attorney general opinion.

It doesn't say the city, it says me.

You're asking for an opinion privately for yourself.

Yes, not for an attorney general opinion.

He is an officer of this of this municipality.

He can do that as a council member, just as the vice mayor could, just as you can.

So there's no clarification that needs to.

It can go on city letterhead.

Anybody in this audience cannot petition an attorney general.

That is why we have special petitions.

That is why our city attorney can.

That is why our city manager can.

Because of that statute that I read out to you.

That allows us to do that.

Not in secrecy, through letterhead.

That is why it says his name on it.

I mean, what are we what are you doing here?

We're trying to just like get into the very nitty-gritty here.

It literally says his name on it.

All of ours is omitted.

He has an officer of the city of Clearwater.

There's nothing else wrong there.

This is crazy what you're trying to do here.

He just be ashamed.

He just said he wasn't asking for an opinion for the city.

He's asking for opinion for it.

But I'm trying to get to you to understand.

That's what he's saying.

It's not the city, it's him.

He is an official.

I would like to make it the city.

I would like to make that clear for the attorney general, but it's his request, not our request.

I'm pretty sure everybody understands that, but apparently you.

So I everybody understands that this is council member Albright.

All of our names have been removed.

I've seen it to where it says your name on the very top below the insignia, followed by the your name on the top, followed by all of ours underneath.

It's not there.

Literally says Councilmember David Albright, his seat numbers, City of Clearwater.

Nothing about you, nothing about me.

We all found out about it Monday from his official letterhead.

So what like what do you speak plainly?

What are you trying to get at here?

This is ridiculous.

Well, this is ridiculous.

But the way you're handling it is absolutely ridiculous.

For a mayor.

We do this one off.

We try to hide it from one another.

And that's been the percent of the city.

He didn't hide it.

We all found out on Monday.

You didn't.

You didn't talk about it with the city attorney, right?

No, I didn't because I didn't need to talk about it with a city attorney.

I felt like I needed to ask the question myself.

I already have the opinion from the city attorney, a 30-page opinion.

And I have other opinions from other attorneys, but I'm not bringing them into this because Uthmeyer is in it because he sent a letter to us about this.

So that's why I'm asking for his opinion.

And he was lobbing by the property ownership.

I don't know.

I don't know why.

I don't know why he did that.

I didn't say it just said petitioner.

So may not get a response, I may get a response.

If I get a response, I will let everybody know what the response is.

But it's my response.

And I know you don't care about that because I know your position and Lena's position on it.

Um it's for me.

This is strictly for me.

Okay.

So let's just leave it at that.

There's nothing more to be said on it.

Okay, any further discussion?

Okay, we'll move to agenda item um 11.

Closing comments by council members.

Councilmember Cotton.

I hope you all enjoy the show.

This is ridiculous.

Councilmember Manito.

No, thank you, Mayor.

I do not.

Councilmember Alberton.

No, nothing from me.

Vice Mayor Tick Sharon.

Yeah, let's end on a positive.

Um I attended the mayor's uh prayer breakfast this morning, and I found it to be very inspiring from the featured speaker, which was Jordan Raynor, to um the various community leaders that led prayer, uh, specific to different um sectors of the population from first responders and so on, to the Florida Orchestra um string quartet.

A very inspiring, a room full of people, um doing great, you know, talking and praying, and and and I thought it was inspiring.

And apparently I needed it with the end of this day.

But um, so let's end on a positive note.

Yeah, okay.

Closing comments by mayor.

I don't have any comments tonight, so thank you all for attending.

And with that, we will adjourn the November 20 meeting of the Clearwater City Council.