What if you you've listened to what I've had to say, what uh recommendation do you have from the legal side to uh ensure that doesn't happen before the uh you know the 60 days the president comes back, we have those meetings.

To ensure that the DDA does not take on debt in the remaining amount of time.

Uh honestly, nothing comes to mind.

I don't think there is it is an independent government organization.

It has its own authority as long as they act within the bounds of their authority.

Umited.

Could could um one of the folks from the planning department uh come back up, please.

Uh have we have um uh do you do you have discussions with the DDA uh at all?

Uh Ryan T for Teller Urban Planning Manager.

I have been in relatively frequent uh communication with the uh with um uh Adam Stepan, who's the president of the OCC DDA?

Um is there a way to just have an agreement that uh you know we're gonna we're gonna council will will wait for you to come back, but we'd ask you not to uh take on debt until we we have those meetings.

I don't know that I can speak to that certain I I would guess not a I I'm I'm probably not the right authority to speak to an agreement uh to that nature.

Well, then Madam President, I'd ask if I could just uh ask the the vice president to step up to the microphone and see if she wants to uh agree to that.

Trevor, can we make those decisions decisions at work session?

I just want to make sure that we're staying within work session guidelines.

That's all otherwise I'm fine with it if Trevor's fine with it.

Uh Trevor Gloss for the City Attorney's Office.

So for example, if the City Council is making a decision, you cannot make those at work session.

Right.

Um a vote uh or anything like that.

Uh this is purely informational, so I would uh ask City Council to stay in that track.

Okay.

And uh good good, it's still morning.

Good morning, ma'am.

Good morning.

Would you just go ahead and identify yourself?

Okay, sure.

Allison Danielle from the OCC DDA vice chair.

And as the vice chair, like you've you've heard the discussion.

I'm just looking for a way where um counsel is and appears to be you know as fair as possible and not uh doing anything too quickly.

Would would you agree, would your body agree not to take on debt until after the president returns and um uh we've had the council meeting to uh uh to vote on uh whether or not to dissolve the the DDA?

Are you okay if I put it to a vote with our council like send out that today?

Um I don't know if I'm allowed to listen to the Yeah, I don't uh uh is it something that you would be comfortable doing?

This is our representative Laura Gardner.

Uh hi Laura.

Hi, how are you?

It's been a while.

Um as uh you know, as a legal representative for the DDA, um I don't know that we can without a vote agree to do that.

I think you could uh I don't want to commit them to say yes or no.

Um, but I don't know that we'll have a difficulty with that.

Is it something when you come back tomorrow you could let us know if they had voted?

Sorry, real quick.

Uh Trevor Glass of the City Attorney's Office just for practical um considerations for government organizations, they would have to post it for open meetings laws and they wouldn't have time to vote in place.

Okay.

Okay.

Um, I don't I don't think I'll have any more questions.

I'll just and I'll I'll make a statement and stop, but go ahead, ma'am, if you had something else.

Sure, Alison Danielle.

I uh will say we have no plans to incur debt.

We have no plans to make any major spins.

I can assure you of that.

Um I just on behalf of the board, I can't make a decision for the entire board.

That wouldn't be legal.

Okay, I'm assuming.

But yeah, but I think that's a good question.

Thank you for for that statement.

That may be helpful.

And so just for my colleagues, I mean that that's where I am is uh I don't want to do this back to back.

I don't want to do it this fast.

Uh I after hearing from our planning department, I don't see why we need to be in a rush to do this.

After hearing from the vice chair, they don't they're not intending to take on debt.

I would say uh let's just go at a normal pace and actually wait till uh the gentleman returns um to vote on it.

That would be my recommendation to my colleagues.

Sure.

We were hoping for 60 to 90 days from now to do that.

Okay, yeah.

Thank you for making your request clear.

Councilman Williams.

I just wanted to make sure that I reiterated what Trevor said and make sure I got it correctly with you know everything that's been said here, which is essentially the plan of development doesn't link them to the incurrence of debt.

So those two things are are mutually exclusive, and and I you know appreciate the fact that you are correct.

Like that would need to go to a vote, it would need to be noticed, it does need to operate much in the same fashion.

So um conversations have been had about how it moves forward, it doesn't move forward, how things would get paid for, how consultants would get paid for.

So those conversations have been happening in the background, and I just wanted to make everyone aware of some of the things that may or may not be on the table.

So um just for the record.

Okay, that's that's it, right, Trevor?

That's all you have.

Sorry, uh Trevor Glass of the City Attorney's Office.

Um, I'm here primarily to answer questions and uh educate about the law.

Um if there are any other questions, please let me know.

I don't have anything additional to present on these items.

Okay.

Can I ask Trevor one question?

We we do this sometimes where we do a thumbs up or thumbs down, we don't officially vote on something.

I'm getting the