Our Columbia City Council meeting to order for September 15th, 2025.

Thank you all for joining.

For all those who are able, please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, which is right behind.

I apply to the allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

Liberty and justice are all.

Yes.

Ms.

Peters?

Here.

Buffalo?

Here?

Ms.

Carroll?

Here.

Selwood?

Here.

Ms.

Sample?

Here.

Mr.

Foster?

Here.

Mr.

Waterman.

Here.

All right.

The public have multiple opportunities to speak at Columbia City Council meetings.

You can speak under public hearing, old business, new business.

And then we have general comments at the very end of the council meeting.

I do ask if you're talking during the council meeting during an area specific legislation to keep your comments from our in remarks to the legislation being discussed.

Because at the end of the council meeting, you can say whatever you want to say, as long as it's respectful for three minutes.

If you're representing an organization that's affected by the legislation being discussed, you'll you can request five minutes.

I do ask you to let me know so that I can make sure our fellows change the shot clock there so you have a correct time.

Disruptions will be addressed with a warning and if necessary, removal and recess.

So up first on our agenda, I'll uh make a motion to approve the September 2nd, 2025 regular meeting minutes.

Do I have a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

All right.

Uh moving on for our adjustment.

Does anyone uh oh we do have one?

Um our resolution 132 25 needs to be moved from consent agenda to new business because we have an amendment sheet to go to that.

Um are there any other changes to the agenda?

Seeing none, I'll make a motion uh to approve the agenda with resolution 132 25 moving to new business.

Do I have a second?

Second.

Second by Nick Foster.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye, any opposed?

Right.

Now moving on to our special items.

Um our first one, I'd like to ask for uh fire chief Brian Schaefer to please come forward.

Well, good afternoon, or I guess it's good evening, uh Mayor Council, uh City Manager Sea Wood.

It's uh it's an honor to be in front of you today, and I I've been thinking pretty long and hard over the last couple months exactly how I would paint this picture to kind of explain why I'm in front of you uh this evening.

And I I think the best way to do it is just to talk about our society in general, our culture.

We have an assumption that things just work.

I think today in the 21st century and and where we are in 2025.

But we don't often think about the level of risk and the amount of fortitude and how lives can get easily impacted by the people that actually make sure that everything works.

Specifically on uh May 20th.

I was uh listening to the radio and uh got to got to hear some heroes at work and uh about 3 34 in the morning.

Our Quint 7 was dispatched to a report of a uh person in cardiac arrest.

Normal call for us.

We have we have about 300 of those types of calls every year.

And you know, we have pretty good results as long as we get there on time.

We we we work with our partners at EMS and we oftentimes have uh very good outcomes from that teamwork that we need to uh resuscitate people.

This time it was a little bit different.

Uh line man made contact that night with an active power line when they were trying to repair uh a line that had caused a disruption to a number of people, just like you and I that are used to having our electricity on.

We take it for granted a lot of times.

Like right now.

We we just had a uh dorm struck by lightning, and uh the the building was being evacuated, and that's all going to have to be fixed.

Electricians and our personnel and utilities are gonna have to go to that site, work in this type of austere environment, and and get that power up so everybody's internet works or water turns on when we need it.

Those people are really heroes in the background.

Back to the story.

The acronym was already applied to our employee, your employee, our community member, who is in cardiac arrest, clinically dead.

The AED indicated a shock advice.

The shock was delivered by our utility workers resuscitating our employee, our community member.

He had been burned very significantly.

We were able to work with our partners in EMS and rapidly transport him and subsequently another person that was on site.

It sounds like relatively normal day.

You know, in my job, my primary reason for existing is uh a risk management.

You know, we try to do everything we can to keep our employees safe and to keep them alive and to keep them there for their families to continue to provide and and we want to see them retire healthy.

That's that's one of my primary reasons for existing.

But in this case, despite the engineering, despite the training, and despite everything, unfortunately, uh electricity is dangerous.

And and people that we work for have an expectation that we take those risks.

And um unfortunately there was a horrible accident.

But the reason why we're here is because the fire department uh wants to recognize those people that work for utilities, specifically Jesse Fudge, who once the uh electricity electricity made connection with our victim, he climbed up the pole, which they train for, uh, and he was able to check in to the harness and lower the victim down, and he received pretty significant burns doing so.

And then the rest of the crew, Brett Helms, Andrew Blackburn, and Cody Rorland, Roland, all administered uh hands-only CPR utilizer AED, and kept his his brain and his heart perfused until we were able to get there with paramedics and and reverse that insult.

It's not over for our community member, our employee and uh and and Aaron's employee.

Hopefully, Aaron should probably come up here uh very shortly, and I was hoping she'd be up here, because this is a leadership thing.

This is a leadership thing for you, it's a leadership thing for uh Aaron, and I'm just recognizing them.

I have nothing to do with this other than just telling a story.

But if I could please Aaron come up and uh Jesse Brett, Andrew, and Cody, if everybody's here, to receive awards.

And I think not everybody's here, right?

Citizen Heroism Award for Jesse Fudge.

Citizen Lifesaving Award for the United States.

Just to add to what Chief said, um, these men trained.

They took their emergency training, they let that kick in, and they saved their coworker, and we're all so very proud of all of them.

Wait, there's more.

Just have a few more.

For the for the fire department rescuers that that came on that first initial alarm, I do want to recognize them.

They had no idea that this was coming.

So Captain Doug Ritchie, firefighter Andrew Lane, and firefighter Isaac Bartholomew, Battalion Chief Mark Jenkins, if he's there also, I don't believe he is.

But I'd also like to recognize them for just an outstanding uh leadership, teamwork under complete stress and chaos, and we're exceptionally proud of them as well.

Thank you.

And thank you, Chief Shay, for making the acknowledgement and the opportunity to do that.

Um, I think I speak for probably all of council when I thank all of you, both those recognized tonight, but those who do this every day for always stepping up for our community.

And and I know Director Keys will often say that they don't do it for the recognition, but recognition and if we were also increased pay, I'm sure you would also welcome that too.

So we'll see what we can do in this next budget year, right?

DeCarlin.

Yeah.

So thank you all for coming out tonight.

I appreciate it and I appreciate healthy, happy um welcome to our employee um who was saved.

So thank you for saving your coworker.

Um moving on, we have one other special item this evening.

Uh I'll ask for representative from the Columbia um youth baseball basketball association to please come forward to the podium.

Good evening, Mayor Buffalo, City Council members, uh, City Manager DeCarlin Seawood and uh city staff.

I'm Jim Chapdelane.

I'm vice president of the CYBA Columbia Youth Basketball Association, and I'm here with other members of our CYBA board and uh uh participants in our league to celebrate this special occasion.

The Columbia members of the Columbia Youth Basketball Association was founded in 1992 to provide children and youth in the Columbia area with an opportunity to play basketball in a recreational environment.

Before CYBA was founded, the only way to play basket basketball was through competitive leagues and school teams.

Dean Barry, our founder, realized this and seized the opportunity when what started as an informal gathering for his son and 20 other kids in a rented church gym exploded into Columbia's premier recreational basketball league.

We want to thank Mayor Buffalo uh for providing a proclamation on Saturday, August 23rd, 2025, honoring and recognizing our beloved founders, Dean and Lori Berry for their commitment to the community through the CYBA organization.

We will be entering our 34th season to provide a safe and fun environment for young people to improve their basketball skills, dribbling, passing, shooting, rebounding, offense and defense, while emphasizing sportsmanship, honesty, integrity, and team play.

We are excited to be using all eight courts at the Columbia Sports Field House for our upcoming season.

We will have over 1,400 children and youth that participate in our league season and special events representing kindergarten through twelfth grade for Columbia and the surrounding communities.

Parents and community volunteers make up our coaching staff for the 140 plus teams, and we estimate that between five and six thousand uh people, participants, parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, and friends will be attending games at the field health this season on every game day.

We will also be utilizing Cedar Ridge Elementary School for our kindergarten and first grade division, and the armory will continue to be our venue for our high school division.

The season consists of the following.

We offer a skills clinic for girls' grades uh K through fifth grade and boys' grade second through third grade in the fall.

We have a jamboree uh where K through fifth grade girls and K through third grade boys play two games and as a warm-up or wrap-up to the season.

Um actually the jamboree is for all uh grades K through eighth grade.

Our league season of eight games runs from January through early March.

This past year we started a three-on-three basketball league as well, and we're looking to expand that.

That was for middle schoolers.

We're looking to uh add other grades.

Uh we are extremely pleased to be partnered with the city uh park and recreation department to help us with referees, scorekeepers, and to provide the beautiful sports field house.

It is an honor and a privilege for our organization to present the City of Columbia with a hundred thousand dollar check to provide the public address system that can be used to provide safety and security messaging when needed throughout the field house building.

With that, all that want to come up for the photo op would be great.

Thank you.

All right, here we go.

Right there, here he is.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you.

There you go, fellas.

They're taking a parade.

They're taking it across the street to the bank.

All right.

Well, thank you all for for joining us and celebrating uh both of those uh special items.

We'll now move on uh in our agenda.

We have a few appointments to boards and commissions.

I'll remind people that there are multiple opportunities to serve the community on boards and commissions.

Um we have these will be posted, uh vacancies will be posted on Wednesday for the next month's round, and I encourage people to look out if you're looking for an opportunity to serve your community.

So we have a few applicants to some of the vacancies we have this year.

Um so up first, um Holly, will you please call roll?

Uh we have two applicants and one vacancy for the Airport Advisory Board.

Um Ms.

Peters.

Eric Morrison.

Miss Buffalo, Eric Morrison, Miss Carroll.

Richard Sauter, Miss Elwood, Richard Souter.

Ms.

Sample, Richard Sauter.

Mr.

Foster, Eric Morrison.

And Mr.

Waterman.

Eric Morrison.

Okay, I think I counted Eric at four.

Okay.

Uh moving on.

Uh we have um for the building construction codes commission.

If and if there's no objection, uh, the one applicant, Jamie Kroll can be appointed to the alternate residential rental property owner.

If there's no objection, no objection.

All right.

So Jamie Kroll will get that one.

Uh moving on, we also have one applicant um for the City of Columbia's New Century Fund.

So if there's no objection, um reappointing Tim Howold to that position.

No objection.

No objection.

All right.

Uh and then for our convention and visitors advisory board, um, we have one applicant uh for the hotel motel owner operator position.

So if there's no objection, we can reappoint Christopher Koons.

No objection.

Uh and then if agreeable, we have four applicants that can be reappointed by voice vote.

That'd be Don Laird, Melody Merrick, Rusty Stratman, and Richard Walls.

No objections.

No objection.

Moving on to our disabilities commission.

We have two uh types of vacancies.

Um if agreeable, um we can appoint Ken Rice, can be appointed uh to the owner operator of a business within the Columbia area position, because we have one applicant and one position.

Is there any objection?

Objection.

All right.

Uh and then we'll need to do roll call vote because we have multiple applicants for one vacancy uh for those with significant disability positions.

So Holly, will you please call roll?

Miss Peters.

Samantha Nassar.

Miss Buffalo.

Coda Inman Alstrom.

Miss Carroll.

Coda in Men Alstrom.

Miss Elwood.

Coda and Men Alstrom.

Ms.

Sample.

Coda Inman Alstrom.

Mr.

Foster.

Coda Inman Ostrom.

Mr.

Waterman.

Samantha Nasser.

Coda Inman Alstrom.

Okay, thank you.

Uh moving on to our finance advisory and audit commission.

Uh, we'll need roll call because we have three applicants for one vacancy.

Ms.

Peters.

Jason Hoffman.

Miss Buffalo.

Jason Hoffman.

Miss Carroll.

Jeff Shockley.

Miss Elwood.

Jeff Shockley.

Miss Sample.

Jason Hoffman.

Mr.

Foster.

Jeff Shockley.

Mr.

Waterman.

Jeff Shockley.

Jeff Shockley with four.

Okay.

Thank you.

Moving on.

We have one applicant for a vacancy on the marijuana facility license review board.

So if there's no objection, Samantha Nasser can be appointed to that.

No objection.

All right.

And then for uh personnel advisory board, we have two applicants, uh, Jacqueline Kelly and Walter Lancey, uh, that can be reappointed for terms ending September 30th, 2028 if there's no objection.

No objection.

No.

And I'll just make one comment that our uh Illustrious City Clerk reminded me I needed to do about the youth advisory council.

Uh Jackie Sample serves as um that appointment.

We made that appointment back in April.

Um as a reminder, we do normally verify this when we make the appointments to it in June or July.

And so she failed to remind us of that.

And so there's no objection if Jackie's willing to continue to serve as they liaison to the youth advisory council.

Um objections.

Objection.

Sheila wrote it down and told me I had to say that.

So yeah.

All right.

Moving on.

Um members of the public have um, as I mentioned earlier, multiple opportunities to speak at city council meetings.

And they can also schedule by contacting the city manager's office the noon the Wednesday before our council meeting to schedule a public comment.

Uh schedule public comments cannot be on items or that are on that evening's agenda.

And it's been typical practice that if if a question or a thing is brought up during that, if council um wants to respond to it or or make reference to it, it usually comes up during council comments at the end.

Um we have two scheduled public comments this evening.

Our first one is unfortunately unable to be here, so we'll work with Pat Kelly to reschedule for that.

So I would like to ask uh Emily Goz to come forward to speak to the Speaker 2.

Good evening, Council members.

My name is Emily, and I'm a 2025 Mizzo graduate, and like thousands of others across Colombia, I am also a renter.

I have been living and renting in Colombia for nearly five years now, and every summer it's the same story.

My lease ends mid-July, and my next one doesn't begin until August.

And this isn't just some minor inconvenience.

This is a real crisis for some people, because we're just left to improvise, and um this year my lease ended July 15th, and my new place wasn't available until August 6th.

So for three weeks I was left to scramble, and I found a friend to live with so I could continue working and still wound up with a week of homelessness where I had to drive to Michigan ten hours to stay with my family.

So imagine telling your boss you need a week off work, not because of vacation, but because your city's housing market has a scheduling problem.

In a college town like Columbia, leases rarely line up.

It's a game of musical chairs, except instead of music, it's moving trucks and storage units, and instead of chairs, it's couches and basements of friends' departments, if you're lucky enough to have them living nearby.

And see, when I graduated, I didn't plan on staying in Colombia.

But life had other plans, and I ended up remaining here.

And by time I had made that choice, I was six months behind on the housing search.

So I spent weeks calling, touring, and searching, and what I found, not one single bedroom or studio apartment in a safe neighborhood that's available until next spring.

And all of the ones I could find were over a thousand dollars a month, not including utilities.

And my affordable options had mold on the walls or were in neighborhoods that I did not feel safe walking alone in.

I had genuinely considered living outside and in my car.

And yet I was managed by some mercy to find a two-bedroom apartment and a temporary roommate.

This was the only way I could afford to have a roof over my head and eat more than one meal a day.

See, I fully support myself.

So when the system fails, I pay the price.

Literally.

But I'm not alone in this.

Students, service workers, young professionals, we're all being asked to make impossible trade-offs just to stay housed.

And even when you do manage to make it work, it doesn't end there.

I've been charged a full month of full month of rent for just 15 days of living in an apartment.

And on top of that, a $300 bill for repairs for issues that I had reported during my lease that were not solved until I moved out.

That's not housing, that's exploitation.

And tenants across Colombia are very familiar with it.

Because this isn't just about me.

Every time a student or a worker is forced out of housing because of lease gaps, unsafe units, or predatory fees, it weakens the fabric of our city.

It pushes people out of the workforce.

It makes Colombia seem less welcoming, and it tells people, especially young people who want to stay here, that their stability does not matter.

And housing insecurity isn't just a private problem, it's a public one.

It affects our economy, our safety, and our reputation as a community.

And that's why I'm here tonight.

Because this is your responsibility as city leaders.

It's your job to make sure Colombia is a place where people can live safely, affordably, and with stability.

This issue cannot be brushed aside as it's just how leases work.

It's a problem and it is solvable.

And council members, you have the power to solve it.

Colombia prides itself on education, growth, and opportunity, and yet our housing market offers students and residents with instability, debt, and uncertainty.

We need protections against unfair fees, more affordable and safe housing, and solutions to close these lease gaps that leave hundreds of people homeless between the months of July and August every year.

Because no one in this city should have to choose between keeping their job, their safety, or just finding a place to sleep.

Because housing is the foundation to everything else.

And right now, here in Colombia, that foundation is broken.

And you have the ability to fix it.

Thank you for your time and thank you to listening to not just my story, but the story of renters across Colombia who deserve better.

Thank you.

Moving on, we have two public hearings this evening.

So I'll ask Holly to read our first one, public hearing 2725.

Public hearing 2725 is the proposed voluntary annexation of property located on the south side of I-70 Drive Southeast and east of Easter Lane, 7098 I-70 Drive Southeast.

Do we have a staff report?

Yes, you do.

Good evening.

Bat center, Development Services Manager.

Matt O'Nein, Deputy City Manager.

So we have a public hearing this evening on annexation request.

7098 I-70 Drive Southeast.

So this is a 1.33 acre tract of land.

And as a part of the annexation hearing process, we must hold a hearing 14 days prior to consideration of an ordinance that would annex the subject site into the City of Columbia and apply its permanent zoning.

This applicant is seeking R2 to family dwelling zoning upon annexation, and that is covered under uh Council Bill 242-25 on tonight's agenda.

Our aerial photography to give you a general location so you can see this more in context with the uh interchange uh location at St.

Charles Road and uh Lake of the Woods.

Red highlighted parcel is our subject tract off our I-70 drive southeast out towards ABC uh labs and ABC Lane.

So the applicant is seeking to develop this site with a duplex.

Uh it presently has no sewer service on the property.

So this is an undevelopable tract of land.

Uh given it is adjacent to uh or capable of being able to be connected to city sewer, the ability for an on-site system would generally not be supported.

Um the R2 zoning, when you look at the context of this area, which is surrounded by county zoning, R S to the west, which is a consistent uh zoning classification to our single family R1, and then to the east is CG, which is County General Commercial, which would be similar to our uh MC, which is our corridor commercial zoning district.

Uh, this particular request would be considered transitional, uh meaning that it offers a step down between the more intense commercial uses eastward and the less intense to the west.

Uh the parcel is contiguous to the city via the I-70 connection to the north.

That property was annexed into the city in 2008, and there is a city sanitary sewer line along uh the northern boundary of I-70 drive and north of ABC Lane, which is what would be the point of connection for sewer should the annexation be approved, subject to a connection to the east to a BCRSD line, which is Boone County Regional Sewer District.

Uh the subject lot would have legal lot status upon its annexation.

It has been platted in the county and uh would be authorized to be able to be developed for R2 uses provided sanitary sewer is uh connected to the property.

The utility map that you see here uh identifies at least our uh piped utilities.

Uh, this particular property is served by public water supply district number nine.

Uh the electric service is Boone Electric and the annexation would authorize the connection to the city sewer, which is a prerequisite, of course, to a building permit.

That connection to the city sewer is via a Boone County Regional Sewer District line that goes underneath I-70 to the east.

As the staff report pointed out, the applicant is presently negotiating with the property owner to the east to secure the necessary easements by which to connect to that sanitary line.

And that sanitary line on this map is one parcel removed.

Uh, the green line that then goes underneath I-70 and connects with the pink line to the north.

Uh there is no connection agreement that this property is lying under, which means uh the applicant would be paying all uh applicable service fees, uh, both connection and monthly recurring fees, uh like any other resident with inside the city of Columbia should the property be annexed.

And then the city would be providing public safety and solid waste services following the annexation.

And then I-75 Southeast remains a MODOT roadway and therefore would be their jurisdiction for maintenance.

So the action that is being sought this evening is to hold the required uh annexation public hearing.

Uh no action on that public hearing is necessary.

And then Bill 242-25 is on for introduction and first reading uh in it qualified for the consent agenda on the August 7th, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission agenda.

Are there any questions for staff on this per this legislation?

Seeing none, I'll go ahead and open up the public hearing.

Would anybody from the public wish to speak on public hearing 2725?

Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing.

A reminder this is being discussed tonight for public hearing, but no votes will take place until the first meeting in October.

Have any comments or questions come to council since my banging of the GAFA?

No.

I appreciate the staff report.

We have held the public hearing for that.

So this will be considered along with zoning at the October 6, 2025 council meeting, and non tonight at N Trom First Rate for Bill 242 25.

So moving on.

Holly, will you please read public hearing 2825?

Public hearing 2825 is the proposed voluntary annexation of property located on the northwest corner of Clark Lane and Lakewood Drive.

Do we have a staff report?

Yes, we do.

So we are, as indicated, looking at another proposed annexation at the northwest corner of Clark Lane and Lakewood Drive.

This is just to the northwest of the roundabout at Clark Lane, St.

Charles and North Lakewood.

Highlighted parcel here on the locator map.

We are looking at.89 acres, so just under an acre.

The public hearing again is required 14 days in advance of consideration of an ordinance to annex and apply permanent zoning on the property.

Applicant is seeking mixed-use corridor zoning upon annexation.

And that zoning is being concurrently introduced under Bill 243-25.

These numbers just happen to fall into sequence between both our planning commission case numbering as well as our council bill and resolution numbering process, so that is why they seem very close to each other, but they are completely independent based on the processes.

So again, our general locator map giving you an idea of what surrounds this.

We have residential development to the north to the east, commercial development inside the City of Columbia, both to the southeast and the southwest.

And then the interstate, of course, at Lake of the Woods and I-70 is there along the southern boundary of this graphic.

So the applicant is seeking open MC zoning to allow for auto-oriented commercial uses along this property.

It is presently zoned County RM, which is a residential multifamily designation.

However, has been previously approved and entitled with County CGP, which is commercial planned zoning.

However, it was not effectuated given that the applicant at that time did not complete the final development plan processing as required by county regulations.

That council board order is still in existence.

And if the developer were to seek uh submission of the final development plan, they would be authorized or entitled to be able to seek the development plan approval that was previously given consideration by the county.

The CGP, however, is tied with the CGP that is to the west on this slide, so that is the Lakewood Shopping Center, had very similar uses to our mixed-use neighborhood zoning district, which is more of a neighborhood-based commercial zone.

And I will get into the differences, and you had a handout provided to you this evening as was asked for in earlier comments that compares our MN zoning district to our C to our MC zoning district.

Yellow column is MN and the green column is the MC.

And you will note that there is a great similarity between the two of them, but I will get into that in a moment.

And the closest city property we have is about 1,200 feet to the west, and that is part of the Valley Creek subdivision that was annexed in and is presently served by city sanitary sewer services.

The area that you see surrounding this to the northwest of the roundabout, north and east, is actually part of a territorial agreement and is served by city sewer via uh systems that are uh managed and owned by Boone County Regional Sewer District.

Uh the subject lot is a platted lot, therefore annexed into the city as MC, it would be uh considered a legal lot and available to obtain building permits.

Uh the comprehensive plan adopted in 2013 supports nodal commercial development.

This request would be consistent with uh the designation of this property and its uh location, uh, given that it is at a note of commercial uh improvements.

The MCF zoning district allows for higher intensity auto-centric uses such as drive-up facilities and gas stations as a by-right, meaning without any additional approval, and as well as uses that generally have a much greater intensity.

Uh square footage uh limitations do not exist within our MC zoning district like they do in our MN.

And so, in contrast, then the MN zoning district permits many of the same uses that our MC district does, but because of its use generally as a transitional zone between residential development and commercial corridors, uh, you often you will see a step down in the land uses uh in their intensity, i.e.

scale, as well as you will see certain uses require a conditional use.

Drive-throughs and gas stations are two of those uses that require the conditional use.

And the conditional use allows for additional supplemental review, not to the same level of a planned district, but it does allow for additional review to ensure that impacts can be mitigated or addressed through a more deliberate review process than just simply the regular building permitting and application of our regulatory standards process.

So the permanent zoning was considered by our planning and zoning commission on July 24th.

Um as part of that public hearing process, there were concerns uh expressed both by staff as well as by our planning commission about the by right uses that the MC zoning district would uh potentially create and its transition into the surrounding residential development to the north and then potentially setting a precedent for moving more commercial intense development along the Clark Lane corridor heading westward towards uh the Valley Creek subdivision.

The applicant was informed and discussed of what the staff's recommendation as it related to this request would be prior to our planning and zoning commission packet preparation.

Um significant discussion occurred uh in regards to potentially considering a downzoning of this property uh prior to getting to public hearing to MN.

That was declined.

My recollection serves me correctly.

That offer was also made by our planning and zoning commission at the public hearing.

Again, the applicant was seeking to have MC considered and voted on at that time.

The ability for the applicant to develop the site under the CGP, as I mentioned earlier, does still exist.

And so the entitlement that exists with this count uh with the property inside the county, should the applicant not succeed uh with the City of Columbia, could be explored with Boone County.

The Boone County processes are a little bit more complicated than ours.

Uh some people wouldn't say that, uh, listening to me.

However, uh they are a little bit more complicated.

They do sometimes result in less uh uh permissiveness, uh, and therefore the applicant wanted to take the chance to come to the City of Columbia, looking at all of our commercial zoning that surrounds this property to the south.

Um, and therefore that is why we have the application.

The prior county approval ironically did include what is referred to in the board order associated with a conditional use, a coffee shack, no greater than 500 square feet.

I don't think that that's a technical use in our code.

We refer to a drive-thru facility, not just a coffee shack.

Uh so it is something that is permissible, however, uh is not yet being explored because they have not fully explored all of their options with us.

Uh this is an interesting parcel in that the connection agreement that exists to the north uh is basically already allowing this property to have sewer access, and it does not require annexation.

When you look at the other utilities surrounding this property, the water service is the City of Columbia's.

So right now we would have water service and we would have sewer service.

And the electric, however, is by Boone Electric.

The 1992 sewer agreement did not require this property to annex to have access.

That was part of the content of the 92 annexation agreement.

Uh, and the annexation or the connection agreement allowed for a reduction in the amount of monthly recurring fees that would be paid.

This is not an uncommon provision that we find in some of our older connection agreements.

It's 80 percent of what a citizen in the City of Columbia would pay for the exact same services.

That connection agreement from 1992 took out four different residential subdivisions that surround this particular property, all to the northwest, to the north, to the north, northwest, and to the east.

City public safety and solid waste services are presently not provided to this site.

However, upon annexation, they would revert to us with mutual aid by the county services and private trash collection would be replaced by city trash collection.

Clark Lane and our existing roundabout at this location is city maintained, so we already control the road infrastructure in this particular location.

And that would not change with annexation.

So that is another unique little component here.

We have all of the right-of-way around the right of around the around the roundabout.

So council action that we are seeking tonight is again to hold a public hearing.

No action is required.

Bill 243 is on this council agenda for introduction and first reading.

The request was denied by the Planning and Zoning Commission on its July 24th agenda.

As such, final action on the permanent zoning and annexation will be placed under old business on the October 6th council agenda.

If you have questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

Questions from Council to Staff, yeah, Nick.

The uh staff recommended denial to P and Z, correct?

That is correct, sir.

And can you say more about why that was?

Uh it had uh everything to deal with the consistency of an application that is to the east of this, which was on your prior council agenda.

Uh very similar situation running back into a residential neighborhood.

Uh we have concern as it relates to that land use integration.

We also believe that uh while the CGP uh can be eliminated through a rezoning action or an annexation into the city, uh eliminating the oversight that a planned district has, which the county has applied to it today, um, is not necessary.

We believe that the same uses can be uh provided if it is zoned MN.

Um it just goes through the extra step, but it is not as onerous as what we would have inside the city as a plan district.

We support commercialization of this location.

We support it though being done through a methodical process of where evaluation of the impacts of that use are really truly uh evaluated before a building permit is sought.

I am just something that you were just in that response to that.

Um were you referring to the denial of um one that was uh slightly east of this that was um potentially going to be like a uh a store?

Dollar general or something.

The dollar general.

That, however, has been since approved, not that not that specific site, but one further to the west of it was approved as M, came in as MC, a very similar situation.

Uh the planning commission at that time, planning commission and the applicant agreed to uh delay that project, resubmit for an MN request.

And so the similarities are there, and that was the approach we took with the applicant.

Okay.

I just wanted to clarify on that one.

All right, I've got Valerie, and then Dunn.

Sure.

Um the county plan commercial that is less permissive than what they're typically seeking with ours.

Um is that similar to our planned development, our PD plan, and that they need to have a plan submitted with it to finalize?

Yes.

So they still have to be a plan.

The county's process actually has two plan steps in it.

They have what they refer to as a review plan, which is applied submitted at the time that the zoning action to change the zoning of the underlying property is sought, um, and then a final development plan must be submitted within a specified period of time, and until that final development plan is submitted and approved by the county commission, the zoning on the property actually does not change.

And so a development plan for what is referred to as phase one, which is where the Lakewood Shopping Center is located, was submitted, was approved, and that's why you see the Lakewood Shopping Center and its in the state today is being constructed.

The development plan, the final development plan for what is the vacant site that we are considering this evening, never materialized.

And that is why the property remains today to be RM.

But a plan does ex a review plan does exist which does show improvements on the property.

How does the process of I guess the number of steps or the degree of difficulty for completing that process to finalize their plans to include a drive-through under county zoning compare to an MN zoned with a CUP needed as an extra step for a drive-through?

I've never sat through an I've never sat through an entire plan district approval process in the county before, so I would I would suggest based upon the steps involved, they've already gone through the review, the entitlements process and a review plan.

So you've gotten through one of the major hurdles.

A CUP and a final development plan, I would say probably from a procedural perspective, are going to almost be identical because they still have to go through the full administrative review process for compliance, uh, which is what our CUP would require, and then they're going to have to go back through the uh county commission in order to obtain final plan approval.

Uh difference there is you'll have a planning commission step for review of the CUP and then a council, uh, which is different from our uh the process that they go through for the county.

They go for staff review, then to the county commission.

So we have one extra hearing most likely on our end.

But at the staff side of this is still going to evaluate the cases equally.

Uh impacts to the infrastructure in the particular area would be an element uh within the staff review at the county level, that will be a review component of ours at the CUP evaluation as well.

Good for now.

Oh, yeah, you do have a follow-up.

I have more questions, but if you want to come back, that's okay too.

But let me give some.

Don, you had a question.

Yeah, can we go back to either the second or third slide?

Okay, next slide.

I believe.

Right here.

Comprehensive plan, commission staff, okay, support commercialization.

Okay, which you had which you had said.

So I was wanted to clarify that.

So I guess my question, MN or MC, it sounds like we're going to get to the same place regardless of which zoning is approved.

MN a couple of extra steps.

I guess my question is if we're going to get to the same end result, why are we asking the applicant and to go through the extra steps?

Why not just make it simpler for them from the beginning?

The opportunity for a more detailed evaluation through a public process to ensure that the impacts have been fully vetted is the benefit of going through an MN versus the MC process.

Everything, if you go through MC is in it is internal and no consideration of the potential impacts surrounding the property would be brought into play.

Whereas M N zoning, because of the conditional use, which is a public hearing, would allow for affected property owners to be able to participate in the public hearing process, very similar to what they would have to do if they went through the county as ACGP.

And at the end of the day, we may end up with a better development that integrates better into the neighborhood than we would otherwise.

Okay.

Any any other questions before I come back?

All right, Valerie.

Thanks.

Um I asked several of these questions ahead of time, and um to a certain degree, I think it's useful to have them read into the record.

Um I wondered if you could tell me anything about there's a similar in the county, and I realize that I'm asking you a lot of county zoning questions, um, which is not what we do, but um has to be considered in this case.

Um across the way there is a gas station, also vehicle-centric application that would be MC that also has a drive exiting onto Lakewood Drive.

Um can you tell me anything about that property and the screening on the back end of that property as it leads towards the residential portion behind?

We did not pay particular attention to that CN parcel, so that is a neighborhood commercial zoned parcel.

Uh it is considered a legal nonconformity if I understand correctly in the county from our staff reporting.

Um the buffering may or may not be compliant with our Tier 3 or our Level 3 buffering.

So the the buffering may or may not be compliant with our tier three or our level three buffering.

Again, we did not do a thorough evaluation of how that property actually would have complied, but when you think about CN uses county neighborhood commercial, our MN uses would be similar.

Now, this particular gas station, if I recall correctly, did not have a conditional use permit associated with it, and that is what is making it a legal nonconformity.

Thanks.

All right.

Any other questions for staff before I open up the public hearing?

I'm gonna open up the public hearing for anybody that wishes to speak on public hearing 2825.

I'll go ahead and close the public hearing.

Um we're having the public hearing for this.

Uh this will be on old business for the October 6, 2025, which means that we will have another opportunity for public comment as well as uh council questions and and council um comments.

Does any council want to make a comment just before we move on?

Yeah.

I would make a comment.

Thanks.

Um, this one is um tricky in the surrounding context, and I I do um notice that.

Um of the things that stands out to me quite a bit in the um Lake of the Woods area.

Um this is a very rapidly changing area of our city.

We've had a lot of very recent requests in that same area, um, especially the shopping center um just south of there.

Um there's also quite a bit of housing um in the Lake of the Woods area, and this is one of the areas that has a lot of affordable housing, whether it's in the county or in the city.

Um it's kind of on the brink where that border is off and on.

Um what I worry about here is the precedent sent by seeking city zoning in order to get a get relief from county zoning or in order to get a more permissive um zoning.

And um I do think that um MN is appropriate for ACUP as it's directly behind directly abutting residential.

When I look at our other properties within that are already within the city that have roundabouts and several commercial properties on them.

Um take green meadows, for example.

Um the ones that are directly abutted, the residential uses have generally gotten um more careful evaluation, more scrutiny.

Um green meadows in this example, all of the ones around that are planned districts, which I don't necessarily advocate for.

Um that is more similar to the county zoning.

At the stage they're at, it sounds like completing county zoning would be practically similar to MN with a CUP for us.

Um I would be very hesitant to give up oversight that we can have for this, given the proximity to quite a bit of housing.

Um this is a corridor that um leads into Columbia.

Um I I think what I would ask, because I do understand that it's um a difficult case, um, what I would ask is that we think of this in terms of what it is likely to become, what it could be as a rapidly developing area, um, and to treat it with the same degree of caution that we would for one of our um internal roundabouts as well.

Um I want to make sure that we um that we provide safety and context for neighborhoods, um, the built environment.

Um it does inform, it does inform walkability, safety, even crime.

Um and I want to provide people on the edges of the city the same level of service that we have in already developed areas.

Thank you, Valerie.

Um I'll just one question that I had asked beforehand that it would be good to know before the next one was um in relation to the driveway that is offered this roundabout into these kind of two commercial ones next to each.

It was my understanding that it was designed to be the entrance for both of these lots.

So if we have an opportunity to ask the count, who are you know what I mean?

Whenever the design we I know we couldn't get to that today, but if we could um find out a little bit more about what the intent is for that load, I'd I'd appreciate knowing that.

All right.

So we'll this will continue to the October 6, 2025 meeting uh under old business.

And speaking of old business, we'll go to the old business section of our agenda this evening.

Up first is our uh tabled bill 20525.

Uh Holly, will you please read that bill?

Council Bill 20525 is an ordinance amending chapter 14 of the city code as it relates to parking meter rates and fixing the time when this ordinance shall become effective.

Third reading.

Sure.

Um Shane Creech, Director of Public Works.

Um, since the last council meeting, public works and finance staff met with the district during their regular board of directors meeting to discuss parking meter rates.

Staff discussed how the parking utility works in general, our revenue and maintenance needs and our methodology for determining the rate increase requested.

Following that meeting, the district indicated that they plan to take no formal action for or against this rate increase.

Um I have the slides from the last meeting available in full if needed, and we're happy to answer any questions you might have.

Thank you.

And appreciate uh you you you taking the time to do that and working out.

Any questions for staff?

All right.

Would anybody from the public wish to speak on uh Bill 20525?

Susan Renee Carter, second ward.

Um I have a couple of suggestions because I've heard a lot of thrashing about the increased rates is first of all, I don't think people understand that you've not changed the rates in like I don't even remember, but I was it was an absurdly long ago.

And second, and so doing some education on that.

Um probably not doing that again for so long so that people don't thrash about when you do it.

Because it sounds like they're doubling it or almost doubling it.

And I'm like, well, yeah, they waited for a long time.

And secondly, is a lot of people are very confused about the fees that they pay.

I don't know about your card, and I thought that one was is that that one's going to end, I think.

But uh the mobile app is that I had tried to explain to people that you have nothing to do with the cost of that.

That's sort of like a convenience fee for using that app.

And so I'd suggest that you do some education on that, because you know, it does sound like a lot of money to people, but um it really in the long run isn't.

So anyway, thanks.

Thank you.

Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

So I am Nikki Davis with the district, downtown CID.

Um so I just wanted to come up.

I I think I let you guys know that um we went ahead and didn't take an action on this, but I again wanted to say thank you so much for allowing us time.

Thank you for the city coming and speaking with us after that.

Um we fully support you guys at the same time.

We also want to want to help our businesses, so now we have the ability to speak to them about whatever you choose, and we look forward to working with the city on on uh getting the information out.

Thank you, Nikki.

Would anybody else from the public wish to speak on bill two oh five twenty-five?

Seeing none.

Uh any council comments?

Negan son.

Yeah, Betsy.

Um I I'm in support of doing this, but I also have to go with what Renee said, and I've heard this from other people, we need to do a much better job.

So I'll leave that to our press release and educational folks at the city to let people know what's going on.

But I think it's a reasonable thing to do, and it has been a long time since we've raised rates.

Yeah, Shane, will you remind us when the rates were last changed?

Um they've been relatively unchanged since 2013, with the exception of meters near campus, which were increased to a dollar in 2015 to match the university and the university then increased to $1.25 in 2022.

But there's been no changes to permit fees.

Um since 2020 citywide.

Yeah, Nick.

You know, this this raises for me the conversation we're having about utility rates too, and doing this in an incremental fashion.

I would imagine that if you change the rates on parking meters as they've been, there's a little bit more to be done in order to they all have to be adjusted in some way and so forth with the app and with the way we're going, will that become easier to do over time?

Will that become easier to do over time?

And so this could become incremental as the years pass by.

Yes.

The when we looked at what we thought we needed to be charging, we didn't think that you know, probably what we need to be charging is probably even higher than this.

We felt like this was a good interim step to avoid doubling that charge.

But it also has the added benefit of the things that I hear a lot are the concern about paying that convenience fee for the app.

And so effectively eating that at this stage and encouraging the use of the park mobile app helps us long term with with our technology needs.

And is it uh do you have a plan for replacing those meters over time?

Over time, yes.

Um they what that looks like, I don't know exactly.

If you remember last time when we talked about transit and the fare box that I showed a picture of, you can do something very similar to that on a block-by-block basis that will take all those forms of payment, something along those lines.

Um, but like I said, the actual meter that you see out there today, you just don't see in most in larger cities in general.

Okay.

Thanks.

Yep.

Thank you, Shane.

All right.

Holly, will you please call roll on bill 20525?

Council Bill 20525, Ms.

Peters?

Yes.

Ms.

Buffalo?

Yes.

Ms.

Carroll?

Yes.

Ms.

Lwood?

Yes.

Ms.

Sample?

Yes.

Mr.

Foster?

Yes.

Mr.

Waterman.

Yes.

All right.

So that makes it easier for the next one, because you guys don't have to quickly change anything.

Um we'll move on to bills 183-25A.

This is our proposed budget for fiscal year 26.

Holly, will you please read the bill?

Council Bill 183-25A is an ordinance adopting a budget for the City of Columbia, Missouri for the fiscal year October 1, 2025 through September 30th, 2026, FY2026.

Providing that certain uh amounts shown in the budget document are appropriated for the various departments specified in said budget and fixing the time when this ordinance shall become effective fourth reading.

Before I ask for a staff report, I'll just say I feel like I've only talked about this budget for the last six months.

So let this be the last one.

No, I'm just kidding.

Uh Matthew Liu, will you please do we have a staff report?

Yes.

Uh good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council.

Uh tonight we'll touch a bit on the process we follow, the financial outlook, and the priorities built into the fiscal year 26 budget.

So uh here we have our 2025 engagement calendar.

Uh as with every budget cycle, this year's process was guided by transparency and community engagement.

And we wanted to break down a little bit of of what we accomplished in this fiscal year.

And so this year we've we've had four town hall meetings, starting with our uh budget overview, uh then we did the budget priorities, capital improvement plans, and then the basically looked at the overall fiscal year 26 budget.

We also during that same time had uh a few pre-council meetings discussing revenue and revenue forecast.

That led us to our the new format of how we did our council work sessions, and we broke those out into three separate days uh discussing the fiscal year 26 budget, and that was basically given a uh general fund overview, then we went over enterprise funds, uh and then we finished up on that Saturday with the complete budget review.

And those all led into our city council meetings uh where we had the CIP public hearing, and then we've had this being our fourth presentation of the budget uh culminating tonight on the 15th.

So we wanted to get a little bit into government accounting, sort of a refresher because we've heard a little bit about this uh over the last few meetings.

So uh kind of just kind of going over what fund accounting is.

So fund accounting is a specialized accounting system that which is used primarily by governments, with the focus being on accountability over profitability.

Uh the goal is to track and control the use of financial resources, ensuring that money is used for its intended purposes.

And then resources then are divided by funds, each with its own purposes, restrictions, and legal requirements.

And each fund is its own mini kind of account has its own mini accounting system with it, so it has its own revenues, its own expenses, assets, liabilities, and fund balance.

Transfers in fund accounting are used to move resources between two internal funds.

So there is no external revenues or expenses when transfers occur.

And key reasons for fund transfers under the governmental accounting standards board or GASB include to support operations, fund capital projects, debt service, compliance with legal or grant requirements, and reimbursement for services.

Well, we want to have we made a few examples of the difference between private sector sector accounting and public or fund accounting.

And so here you we have a company A which basically shows all of your functions within that company within the same bubble.

You have all of your administrations, administrative functions as well as your goods and services that are being provided to your customers.

When it comes to fund accounting or governmental accounting, we have several different uh company A's, if you will, within that same bubble that we use.

And I think this is the reason that we get a lot of there's a lot of confusion about uh a city budget because it is multiple budgets within side of one.

Any questions?

Yeah, it's not the first time you've said that, so we also wanted to show uh uh more of a visual of how transfers work.

And so we took the example of moving money from transportation sales tax uh to other funds to support their basic needs.

And so uh like we said before, transfers reallocate existing resources between funds.

Um these funds are not new revenues, but but simply the reallocation of exit uh of existing resources.

So now we'll get into a little bit of the budget.

So since the the last meeting there was a correction of uh $900,000.

We had an additional transfer of money that we basically did not need.

So we took that out and is represented within the the total budget, which we'll show here in a minute.

So I believe you all will need to vote on this, or uh when you vote on a total budget, it'll be passed as well.

Not quite sure how that'll work.

So this is $900,000 that is $900,000 less from the the budget amendments that we had last year.

So we don't think we need this now for major maintenance on public buildings?

No, I think it would am I confused?

No.

Well, I might be confused.

Hi, Megan Montesinos, um, budget analyst.

So we what we showed you last time with the amendments had an additional $900,000 in revenue and expense that was related to a transfer tied to this project.

This is basically replacing number 54 on what we had provided last week in the amendments.

It's within the same fund, which means we don't need to show a transfer in the budget.

Um we just need the 900,000 in the project, not the transfer that was also approved when you voted on the amendments last time.

We don't need the transfer.

So I'm still uh I'm at a loss, though.

Like we have revenue or we just have the expense.

So the revenue for this project is in the same fund that we will pay for the project out of.

That means we don't need to transfer money between funds and the budget.

So what does this amendment do?

Um when you voted on the amendments last council meeting, there was an amendment.

It was also amendment 54.

It said 900,000 in revenue, 1.8 million in expense.

That included 900,000 for the project budget, and then 900,000 in revenue and expense that was related to a transfer.

This will replace line number 54 on the amendments that you approved last time.

And it's just a correction essentially.

So the money will still be in the project.

Everything stays the same with the project.

We just didn't need to budget that transfer that we included last time.

I'm looking at the attachment for what we had for the last one for 54, which is also on this one as well.

It sounds like you're going to need a motion to uh to have it that it was number 54.

So I do see that.

Okay.

So that is on the amendment sheet that we have, and so we will just make that correction at that time.

Okay.

Correct the amendment sheet.

Yes.

Yeah, done.

Don't go away.

Sorry, Megan.

So make sure I understand this.

What we approved last meeting.

We had a revenue of 900,000, expense of 1.8.

And you're saying now we didn't need to do that.

So we're actually reducing the expense to 900,000 from the 1.8.

Yes.

So when we put the amendments into the budget in order to provide you with an updated exhibit A, we realized that we didn't actually need that transfer that had been included in the amendments originally.

So this would decrease the totals that we gave you last time by 900,000 in both revenue and expense related to that transfer.

So it's not cum it is completely changing amendment number 54 that had the 900,000 and then the 1.8 to just being zero for revenue and 900.

Not the or are we just reducing the revenue by 900?

So this would just completely replace line 54.

Just want to take thank you.

Okay.

With that being said, um here is what your fiscal year 26 budget uh will look like.

So we're expecting 559 million in revenue, uh 544 million in operating expenditures, and then we will add in our capital improvement projects of 64 million, uh, which brings total expenditures for the budget to 608 uh million dollars.

So here's a breakdown of that just in a different way.

And uh we received some feedback of people not quite understanding still the capital projects uh portion.

And so uh the example that we've been giving is that uh sort of think about it as uh your home budget and your month-to-month expenditures and revenue usually are ones that boun uh that balance, and that is your operating fund.

So that is your uh whatever you're bringing in for revenue, your monthly check or bi-weekly check, and you're paying your mortgage, your uh utilities, things of that nature.

And then you would also have well some people have a savings or something like that for when you want to either make a bigger purchase or something comes up, say like uh you need to purchase a new car.

That would be something like your capital projects, where you're not paying for that from your current revenues, you're paying for that from a saved pot of money.

I'm the one who had the question about that.

So, no, no, you were not the only one.

I'm not the only one.

Well, I was one, let's put it that way.

Okay, thank you.

Yes.

So here is a look at our uh citywide revenues by category, and once again, 82 percent of our revenues are collected from fees and service charges, which come from utilities.

You have your uh sales tax and then transfers as the the next biggest portions of that.

Uh this is a look at expenditures by function, and just as with the the uh revenue utilities make up the line's portion of this as well of your expenditures as well, uh they make up nearly half of the total budget expenditures for the city, and then that's followed up by transportation and public safety.

This is a different uh breakdown of those same expenditures uh this time by category, and as you can see, uh personnel and miscellaneous services and miscellaneous uh make up more than half of the expenditures uh by category, and then as followed by power supply.

And as you can see personnel and miscellaneous services and miscellaneous uh make up more than half of the expenditures uh by category, and then that's followed by power supply.

We'll get into our general fund.

So the general fund proposed budget after last week's amendments looks like this.

$132.6 million in revenue and $135.3 million in operating expenditures leaves you with a deficit of $2.7 million.

Uh this is your general fund out outlook, and I'll just break down sort of one column to kind of get the flow of what is going on here.

So if you uh take a look at uh let's start with fiscal year 23, you had your total revenues of 112 million, uh less your expenditures of 105 million, which brings you to that uh $6.4 million uh balance for the end of the year.

That that $6.4 was added into your ending available cash, and which brung that total to $45.4 million.

Uh you less that 20% cash reserve target, which is 20 percent of your total expenditures for that fiscal year.

This is how we come up with that 21 million, and then you get a cash above your cash reserve target of 24.2 million.

And so if you follow that same logic for fiscal year 26, uh we are expecting to have uh ending available cash balance of about 47 million with a cash reserve of 27 million, uh, and that will leave our target above the cash reserve of 19.9 million or close to 20 million dollars for that year.

And one again, one of the changes that we saw in total revenue for fiscal year 25, and why that projection is so high is because of that uh century link litigation and that settlement, uh, which actually it it increased the actual cash balance around close to 15 million uh dollars for fiscal year 25.

So clarify that was the settlement in in regards to fees that we would have received, and those would have gone into the general fund if we had received them at the time of when we were supposed to, correct?

That's correct.

Okay.

So uh the city's revenue comes from a variety of sources, but sales and use tax make up nearly 30 percent of all general fund revenue.

Um, then that your next biggest portion is the pilot, which comes from the utilities, water and light in general.

Here's a breakdown of your general fund revenue uh by category.

Uh and here you will see uh a slight decrease from what we uh budgeted for in fiscal year twenty-five.

So we're looking at a $1.2 million decrease.

A lot of that has to do with your revenue from other governmental uh units, which is your uh grants and different things like that.

We will we will we expect that we'll see a uh a dial back in grants that we receive in fiscal year twenty-six.

So where the money goes, uh 70 percent of all general fund expenses goes towards personnel services.

Um our personnel is where we spend the majority of our money uh followed by services and miscellaneous.

Looking at this uh these expenditures by department, uh you'll see that police and fire, we spend uh a little over uh $65 million on those two activities, uh, which is which is close to half of your total uh general fund budget.

Here are your general fund expenditures uh by type and just basically showing the difference between the expenditures in fiscal year twenty-five and twenty-six uh and the concerted effort that the city has made or staff has made to bring down expenditures that we that I wouldn't say may not have been needed, but uh but that we saw fit uh to to basically be able to fit the uh personnel increases and the things that the council wanted as long as well as staff wanted into this budget.

That is basically our presentation for tonight, and we're open for any questions.

Questions from council to staff like we've asked a lot of questions.

We'll probably have more.

Uh well go ahead.

Um, this is under old business.

So would anybody well actually let me make the motion for the amendment first, just so I don't forget it like I have done before on amendments.

So I'm gonna go ahead, um I've got we've got an amendment sheet on here as well.

Um correct.

So I'm gonna make we're gonna have two motions.

My first motion is going to amend the supplemental um information, the amendment sheet that's here um to replace amendment number 54 with zero showing up in the revenues and 900,000 showing up in the expendit expenses.

Do I have a second on that motion?

Second.

Second, I bet see any discussion on that?

All right.

All those in favor of amending the amendment sheet say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Okay.

Uh and then second, I'll make a motion to amend Bill 1832 per the amended amendment sheet, um, which replaces exhibit A and changes two numbers in section one of the ordinance.

Do I have a second?

Second.

All right.

Any discussions on that?

This has the updated information with the amendments in it.

Um all those in favor of um amending Bill 18325 per the amended amendment sheet say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

All right.

Now I'll ask uh is there anybody from the public that wishes to speak on Bill 18325 as amended.

Good evening, council members.

Hi, Mayor Buffalo.

Hi, Mr.

Seawood.

Thank you so much uh for having me and give me a few minutes to speak.

Um just as it relates to the budget, the 2026 budget, I just wanted to mention our relationship with the city um as far as CMHS goes.

So moving on.

Oh, I'm sorry.

You're good.

My name is Michelle Casey, uh 1803 Top Sale Drive, and I am the associate director and campaign manager at the Central Missouri Humane Society.

Thank you.

That's helpful information, isn't it?

Um so I just want to talk about the budget.

I know we're not in the budget for 2026, and I just want to talk a little bit about what that looks like for our relationship moving forward.

We have been partnering with animal control since the 70s, and because Columbia has no municipal shelter, they basically rent cage space from us in our facility, and then it's our staff who cares for the animals, providing all of the daily care but also all the vet care as well.

So moving um into our capital campaign, this is a campaign that we've got to continue fundraising for.

The building that we're in is not safe.

Not for us, not for your staff, not for the public.

So it's really just counting down the days until we just aren't going to be able to operate out of that building anymore.

And I just don't know what the city is gonna do.

Like we've had our ceiling collapse in, we've got black mold, all these things we struggle with.

Part of the building doesn't even have air conditioning where some of our dogs are housed, and it's absolutely miserable in the summer.

So say tomorrow our ceiling completely collapses in and Department of Ag shuts us down.

I don't know what Boone County Columbia Animal Control is going to do.

I don't know what options you are going to have for your animals.

So we want to do this together.

We've been a great partner with you guys for so long, and we really know how to handle the strays in this community, not just meeting their physical needs, but also meeting their enrichment needs, their mental needs, emotional needs, and we know how to have a successful adoption program.

So in the future, if you guys aren't able to commit to funding for our project, because really it's not our project, it's our project, because it really is a community project.

Um and we want to have animal control in the building with us.

That's the way that we work well together.

It makes more sense to have all of the stray animals, all the adoptable animals in one place.

So moving forward, we would like animal control to come with us, but this is a costly project, and we do need funding from the city.

Um we've been in our current building since 1976, so we haven't come to you for any kind of capital expenses since then.

Um I know it's a hefty investment, but it's one that will make a big difference.

Um that's something that we're really really concerned about.

So we're trying to value engineer and get this done.

But we also know that we cannot skimp on these animal housing areas.

We want to do this once, we want to do this right, and we hope that you guys will come with us.

Thank you, Michelle.

Anyone else from the public wish to speak?

And Rice War 2.

Um I wanted to say, first of all, I appreciate the uh attempt to make it more um readable of the budget.

I saw some uh you know uh graphs and um some um different things that uh that are uh working towards a more understandable budget.

So thank you on that.

Um the other thing I want to talk about is um transparency.

Um I I do believe that there's a thought, hey, we're very transparent, but I think what when we look at transparency, we need to say we're more transparent than we were in the past, but that doesn't mean we're transparent.

So I think we need to continue to work towards that transparency.

And one of the things that I see is I was quite dis disappointed at the last uh council meeting when we just all of a sudden see a a slide up there that says, well, you see 14 more million dollars just out of nowhere.

And you know, we uh apparently knew about this back in July.

Well, why wouldn't the city at that point go ahead and put out a press release and say, hey, we won a uh a major lawsuit, we're gonna get 14 million dollars, and we have some thoughts about what we're gonna do with that the 14 million dollars.

Well, I'll tell you one thing.

The lady that just came up here, I would say that's a good use of the money.

It's a one-time expenditure, and that's what we should be doing with extra money that we have, not paying for personnel raises, not paying for extra personnel.

Those are the things that we don't do.

We don't do that when we don't have the extra money.

But we have extra money.

A one-time expense, that's great.

We need to look at those things, like the police, the buildings falling apart.

Why don't we put some money towards that?

We have a electric grid.

We have different things that we have to look at, and I think we need to look at those things.

So I saw some good things going on, and I'm I applaud you.

Um I want I I want to take the time to always say, hey, when we do things in the right way, we should do that.

But we can't just say that, hey, and especially transparency.

Transparency is an ongoing thing that we have to constantly challenge ourselves.

Uh the last thing is um, and it doesn't well, it does have to do with the budget because sometimes it does, is you know, closed sessions with different things.

We need to look at, you know, if we can somehow have less closed sessions, because it gives a perception in the community that, you know, what is going on, why do we have so many of them?

So that's really all I had.

I I want to thank you all.

I I think that um I saw progress even over the uh last uh two or three months.

Uh but I think there's a long way to go on it.

And I think uh the la oh one last thing would be just you know revenue.

We need to talk about where that revenue is gonna come from.

And if it's taxes, let's just be honest about we need to raise taxes.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ken.

Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

Good evening.

I'm Steve Spelman.

I work with live at 2312 Katie Lane in Columbia's fourth ward.

Glad to be here.

Um as is maybe stated a few weeks ago when opportunities of citizens step forward here and address our town council and all the public education piece, I think was unprecedented.

Um very well appreciated as a concerned citizen.

It's a lot to digest on this deal.

Uh budget used to be like 600 pages, I think it's down to 400 or something.

Well, it's moving the right direction.

But you know, the PowerPoints and so forth and budget director and staff, they're uh uh very well received by myself and a number of citizens.

I've heard that uh uh kind of across the board.

Uh the charts here that this evening um also kind of uh updated that um and expanded a little more.

The general education, you know, I guess you can't say that enough.

But um what I guess what I appreciated here this evening was the cash reserve chart and the history on that, going back several fiscal years, uh, where we're over under um, you know, referencing where it was estimated at the time, you know, things change, revenue changes, expenses come up and so forth, but kind of seeing the over-under where year over year we've actually come in under over um what was estimated from you know uh revenue as well as expenditures.

Uh the 14 million dollars, I appreciate the the explanation there kind of plopped into uh the current fiscal year and so forth and made it look like an overage.

Uh so that's I guess we would have been underwater otherwise.

Did express the concern about best practice of budgeting planning uh for a $3.5 million uh over spending basically in the journal fund.

See that swittled down to 2.7 ish or something.

I'll say that's working in the right direction and so forth in the the grand scheme of things, that's probably the way it's gonna be written and approved and so forth here.

Um appreciate in the chart the line items there.

One that jumped out at me here this evening was revenue from other governments, I think described as grants and other things like that.

Presume that's a lot of federal funds.

Uh rug got pulled out from another of things earlier this year.

Um I would just express as a uh nonpartisan, non-ideological statement.

We are in a different era with our federal partners.

And we think we've seen a shot across the bowel very you know controversial earlier this year.

You know, I think there's a new sheriff in town as far as that goes.

In this budget cycle, I know people aren't going to be happy with stuff, but you know, I would just be cautious about what we've expected in the past and what we're going to get in the future.

Um I don't think that's going to be as easy as it used to be.

And just planning for that.

Again, for good or for bad.

I'm not saying that's good.

I'm not saying that's bad and so forth.

But um again, appreciate the prudence here uh and the public engagement.

Thanks for your time.

Thank you, Steve.

Would anybody else from the public wish to speak on the proposed fiscal year 26 budget?

Susan Renee Carter, second ward.

Um I appreciated the update to um the PowerPoint.

It did provide a lot more um information and it explained things better, because none of us or most of us are not accountants, so it made more sense.

I did have uh one concern though, is that our second largest expenditure area services and miscellaneous are crammed together.

And I used to have to do budgets where I worked in miscellaneous.

First of all, I'd like those pulled apart.

But second of all, a miscellaneous, if it's that expensive, then it should be put into more specific categories than that.

Because that's just like whatever's sort of left over at the end.

It shouldn't be major expenses.

Anyway, that's my thought.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And you can't come back and talk again.

I want to appreciate staff, and especially the staff member that came with family this evening.

That's going above and beyond.

I appreciate that.

And these were needed comments, it looked like as well.

Thanks.

Don't come back out for your other eight seconds, Steve.

Only because you were saying nice things about the staff.

No, I'm just kidding.

Would anybody else from the public wish to come up for three minutes or less?

All right.

Well come back to our council comments.

Um before we get into individual questions.

If I recall, do you know about the percentage of miscellaneous and services?

I have a feeling it is heavily services and tiny bit miscellaneous.

Do you have any uh uh um breakdown of what you think that percentage is?

It is a very small uh part uh miscellaneous, but some of the some of the reason for that, uh the naming of that is because there's miscellaneous services within it as well.

It's it even more complex.

Another opportunity for us to educate and communicate on the different things.

Yeah.

I hear another work session.

All right.

Uh council comments or additional questions that have come up.

All right, I'm gonna come down the road.

Betsy.

Um I just and maybe this is the wrong place, but since um the Humane Society was brought up, are we getting a report from public health on what we're paying and what we should be paying and what we're using?

Is that coming?

Yes.

Um in the next month or so.

I actually have it.

I think that's a good question.

Okay, so sometime in October then.

I guess great.

Thank you.

All right, uh done.

I just wanted to say and really kind of echo what Steve said.

Thank you so much for the staff, all the work that they've done, Matthew and your team and all the departments with you know when this was started when they submitted their inputs at the beginning of the cycle.

Uh I know it's not easy.

Um, but again, I just wanted to say thank you for all the the work, the answering the innumerable questions that we've all had.

This the communities had.

Um thank you.

Nick.

I appreciated this um presentation tonight also.

And and part of that that I really appreciated was just seeing the calendar of events that we've had this year.

Uh I think the town halls were new this year, right?

Um we had four of those.

I've I've heard from citizens how much they appreciated the opportunity to to be a part of those, and I I think that was incredibly helpful.

Um it also made me tired uh to look through all of this calendar again.

And I think I'm at a place where I'm ready to vote for this budget, and I will.

So I appreciate all that effort and and uh the way you've continued or double.

I also know that if we were to take a little bit more time, we could probably come up with a lot more questions.

Um but I I'm ready.

Uh I trust the process up to this point and trust you with it and trust that this is going to work out well for us.

Thank you.

Questions and comments or just comments.

Um I know you've received my feedback.

Um but I so I just wanted to bring a couple.

Um I agree with the comment about miscellaneous and services, and I know we've talked about that as well, but um I think it would be very beneficial to, especially when it looks like a big chunk of money and recognizing that the fact that to the public a couple hundred thousand dollars, well, in the grand scheme of things may not seem like a big deal.

It is a big deal to people looking at the budget.

So drilling down when necessary, I think would be helpful.

Um additionally, when looking at there's some terms throughout the budget that are not included in the glossary.

Um the legal term ad valarum, I don't even know if I'm saying that right.

I don't know what that means.

Um but then also some departments are using the definition of this is not a significant change.

So defining what is significant.

Does the city have a percentage of decrease or increase in funding that is then significant?

Is that use?

Is it standardized across departments?

What is that?

Should it be standardized across departments?

And then including that definition glossary.

Same with definition of accessibility and affordability.

Um I think if we're going to use those terms, we need to standardize them so everybody is talking about the same thing across departments.

I think that would be really helpful.

Um the only other thing, again, because I know you have my my feedback in writing.

Um I think you know, when we're we're looking at the progress measures for the budget.

I think there's things that we can and should should do better for the document.

Um of the things I think would be really great that would increase public understanding and council understanding is whatever progress measures are listed in this current year's budget, if they're included in the following year, and give us a progress report.

These were our goals for last year, this is how we did.

And I don't know that we should have a highlighter significant change if it wasn't noted as a progress measure in the year before.

Um just looking for kind of how we can keep on on top and measure those things.

Um anyway, and I know that will also be part of the process, but just wanted to pull those comments out.

And thank you again for all of your people for being open to feedback and talking through and training and teaching.

It's really appreciated.

Thank you.

Uh yeah, first, like many other people up here have said thank you so much that the plan for public information has been incredible this year, and we have seen that through a community that is bringing forward specific and knowledgeable questions to us.

We are getting much more advanced questions than I have heard about the city budget in years past, which speaks to a more understandable budget than we have had.

Um, and also speaks to a desire for it to continue to become more understandable.

We have people who are wanting to engage with this document, um, and there will be more work to continue to be done.

Um I did have two questions, one on the Humane Society report.

Would I ask that now or during council comments at the end of the meeting?

Council comments, unless it affects your vote.

No, it wouldn't.

Um then the other one, just because I wasn't quick enough to raise my hand earlier.

Um I already sent this to you via email, but I just felt it was worth asking from the dais as well.

Um can you talk about how we are able to vote on a budget, knowing that not all of our union contracts have been signed yet.

We voted on one at the last meeting, we'll vote on one today, and then there are two still in the negotiation process.

So when the budget includes employee wages and not all of those wages have been settled with the bargaining units, what does that process look like?

So we budgeted uh for specific uh increase for fiscal year 26 for all employees.

So there is a there is a threshold that we have there for uh to basically accept uh the increases for those units.

Um again, like we did this year, I believe is on the the agenda uh tonight, or I believe it's on uh consent.

Uh we will look at the budget throughout the year, and at the end of the year, we will reconcile that budget to make makeup for things that that uh we may not have had enough funding for one of those being personnel.

Thank you.

Hallory.

Yeah, um thanks again for the presentation tonight.

Um I appreciated the um I'm gonna say graphics, the explanatory graphics um quite a bit.

Um I do think we have had a healthy process um in discussing and educating um and seeking feedback on this budget.

Um, and I appreciate that as well.

Um of the ways I think we can improve um is um I guess the narrative format um as to what goes into each budget piece, um, what the services are, what the roles are, what the programs are, um, as well as when there's a decrease um in funding, um, how did we um change our programs, our staffing levels, the timing that we filled positions, et cetera, um, in order to fit um that into our program budget as we have it now.

Um I know that we did have decrease in funding across several um departments.

Um I appreciate the work that was done to try to make it all fit and the work that was done to um try to keep the level of service and try to keep our highly trained um and valued personnel.

Um I also um I'm not sure if I took the chance to comment yet about um deficit spending, one-time costs versus ongoing costs like um personnel costs and salary increases.

Um that one gave me a lot of heartburn as well, and I've said that before.

Um I really value our staff.

This is a promise that we made last year.

Um, and we have seen the um rewards of doing that.

Um I've also seen that when we ask to do certain programs, um, the answer is very frequently we can't do it because we don't have staff.

Or when we ask why we've fallen short in an area, the answer is very frequently or was that we didn't have enough staff.

Um I also see that we're often spending more money in order to cover overtime in order to um recruit more.

Um I think that it is a better value to the city to retain our staff than pay more overtime and recruit more.

Um I think it will help us in the long run.

Um, and I'm going to try to overcome my heartburn with the understanding that we will also overcome the general fund surplus looking at the long range over and under does help me have a bit more confidence in how that has trended historically and how in some years we're recovering from that, and in some years you were at a deficit.

Um this is in line with our values of as a city.

Um that at the end of the day, I think it's something that we do need.

Well, I'll just end um uh one correction because the slide actually was incorrect.

You had an additional town hall because you had one after our budget work session.

You had one on that Monday following for the community before our one.

So you had five town halls.

And I was looking back to 2022 uh when it was my first year on the council.

We had one uh budget sort of work session in May with staff, kind of like an update where we looking forward.

We had one on a Saturday in July or August.

So I guess it would have been August because it was uh uh Roy's first meeting, because it's after the special elections.

Um and then we had three public hearings and a vote.

And we asked, because we heard from the community, this is confusing.

Because as you showed, the bubble looks nice, but it's still really confusing, even though we see six circles and a bubble.

It's still very confusing because it's not like a personal budget.

It's not like a a normal um corporation's budget.

And so you had five town halls, two pre-councils, uh, three work sessions, and five council meetings.

And that's not to say I know for a fact staff has been available to answer questions from council as well as other staff as well as community members, and through like our finance and advisory and committee, I mean working with our public committees and the citizens' academy.

And that's because council heard from the community on the need for this, and we tasked the city manager with tasking his staff with delivering on it.

And so I would just want to say publicly thank you to DeCarlin.

Uh we know you have a lot to handle, and we know that you're working with your staff to try to deliver the out the expectations that council has.

So thank you to that.

And then going forward, your next task is how do we make sure that we're you know on those right path?

And so I know that you're currently in the process of an evaluation over our fees, our services, other ways that we can have savings as well as potential revenues, and what are our expectations?

So I know we'll continue that conversation before we even start fiscal year 27's budget.

So I just want to say thank you to that.

And so now I will ask Holly to call the rule on.

Oh, I should also make note.

I realize when I talked about the amendments, um, it's my understanding that the personnel changes amendment is also included in that exhibit A.

It's not just the amendments of the numbers, but also the personnel numbers, correct?

That's correct.

Thank you.

All right, so Holly, now I will ask you uh to call the role on Bill 183-25A as amended.

Council Bill 18325A as amended, Ms.

Peters?

Yes.

Ms.

Buffalo?

Yes.

Ms.

Carroll?

Yes.

Ms.

Elwood?

Yes.

Ms.

Sample?

Yes.

Mr.

Foster?

Yes.

Mr.

Waterman.

Yes.

All right.

Thank you.

Now I know we're gonna have like other budget talks at like the next meeting, but gosh.

All right, Holly, will you please move on and read Bill 21825?

This was tabled from our last meeting.

Council Bill 21825 is an ordinance amending chapter two of the city code as it relates to closed records and fixing the time when this ordinance shall become effective, third reading.

Do we have a staff report?

And mayor, this was tabled at the council's request, so that there could be additional um study and evaluation of the requested changes.

And there is no staff report to really present at this time, but we'll take any questions you have.

Great.

Uh Girl, I believe you wanted this.

Do you have any questions for staff?

Um, yeah.

So I think my first question, um, obviously some questions were sent via email um in advance of this meeting.

And I know that in part of that in talking about the reasoning behind the changes at the state level.

Um, it was mentioned that city staff don't know what the state legislature was thinking when they passed these uh these changes.

And so I guess I'm wondering what is the uh what is the rationale for adopting it at the city level when we don't understand why it was adopted at the state level.

Well, typically what we just try to do is is be consistent with what state law provides so that there isn't any confusion or um discrepancies between what we're doing and what is is allowed or authorized at the state level.

So you know you don't have to adopt it, it's not required.

If that's something that you want to have amended out of the ordinance, that's fine too.

Um we included it because it is consistent then with state law for the purposes of the sunshine law.

Every year, the uh the attorney general, and if you don't have one, I always always keep them.

This is probably this is an old one though, because it's Eric Schmidt's Sunshine Law book.

But I keep I keep these, we hand them out, we pass them out, and and they provide an analysis of the sunshine law for folks.

It's available online as well.

Um for purposes of of just um when we evaluate or when we review records, we use that as our guidance as well.

So consistency from the city staff's perspective is helpful because when we also when we see trainings at the statewide level, all of those provisions are included in the training.

So it helps our staff.

And then specifically on the piece of this that relates to records pertaining to public safety and law enforcement.

So is this would then kind of sit on top of that?

So this would be additional closing.

Well, think of it a little bit differently.

So the 610100, which has to do with arrest records, incident reports, investigative reports, really are about the records that are maintained and the police records in their day-to-day operations, law enforcement activities.

The closures that happen under 61021 are the are generally more day-to-day municipal administrative records.

So I think the examples that we tried to give were records that might relate to hotline tips or information received from a hotline that if someone's seeking those records outside of a specific case or outside of a specific incident, that's more of an administrative record.

So it's they do they work together.

Poor use of prepositions.

Right.

We don't, the city has not adopted or has not specifically incorporated into the city code the provisions of 610100.

They still apply as it relates to police records because the state law still applies.

But when it comes to 021, 61021, those are actually required to be adopted, or the city has to have a policy on closure of those records under state law.

So the city's policy in the past has been to mandate closure of the items.

And so while state law allows records under 61001 to be closed, it does not mandate that they're closed.

There are other state laws that mandate closure of juvenile records that are and we don't have any discretionary authority over that.

But when it comes to 61021, you do have discretionary authority.

You don't have to adopt those, which is why I say if you choose to amend that out of the ordinance, we can certainly do that tonight.

So that's where your discretionary authority is.

And I think you somewhat answered this in what you were just saying.

And also again, knowing that you cannot read the minds of our state legislators who put this into place.

But in your understanding, is there a reason that that piece of admin records is sitting in an ordinance separate from the other police records?

No, I have no idea why it why they why they put it there.

Perhaps because the subsection D that is in what in the state law was I think it's subsection 18 in the state law.

Subsection 19 in the state law.

Then they slightly amended subsection D.

But I think they thought they must have thought all those fit well together as far as operational guidelines, policies, and specific response plans.

So that would if I had my crystal ball, that's why.

And sorry, last piece of clarification on that, and then I am done.

So the I'm trying to keep track of the different numbers.

So 610, that is a state ordinance, and we do not have a count, we don't have a city level one duplicating it.

Uh 610100 for yes, 610100 um is the investigative reports, incident reports, arrest records, and closure of those, which are actual police records that are maintained with regard to cases.

And we don't have a separate one at the city level, which is why we couldn't then take this piece about admin records and put it neatly with the rest of the police records.

It has to sit in a separate ordinance.

Correct.

Thank you.

For asking the good questions, Vera.

Additional council questions.

Oh, sorry, I didn't see your finger.

You know, one thing is that uh stands out for me still about this, and I think we did address it the last time.

So I I apologize for bringing it up again in that in that case.

Um under 18 a things are listed, and in each one.

It indicates that I I assume that these records are open unless it is determined that if disclosed, it has the potential to endanger the health or safety of an individual or the public.

And that's true in each one of those.

And I think you did speak to this last time, but could you review that again?

How and maybe give an example of what that would look like.

Who makes that determination and how is that done?

Sure.

So what happens is we have a records custodian in every department.

The city manager has designated all department heads to be the records custodian, but that gets delegated within each department.

So a department head can also then delegate an individual within their department to be the records custodian.

So the records custodians within the department are responsible for making determinations about what records are responsive to a rec request and which records are open and closed.

If they have any question about what would be open or closed, they're there to consult with their supervisor, their department head, and then we also have legal counsel uh made available to them that they can consult with.

And so it's it's fairly common for us to have a records custodian set down with the assigned attorney and the law department to go over records and have that conversation about the left up to the decision of a single person.

It's it's something that's going to be done in consultation with others, including the department head and and the someone from the city attorney's office.

Correct.

And then in very complex uh uh matters where there's any kind of question uh about closure, the the law actually provides for an opportunity for the records custodian via um our department to seek a determination from the Boone County Circuit Court about whether or not a record is supposed to be open or closed.

We've not had to use that, but it it does exist when it comes down to um questions where there might be a dispute.

Okay.

All right.

Would anybody um from the public wish to speak on Bill 21825?

Seeing none, I'll come back to additional outstanding council comments or question?

Yeah.

I just want to note that I think that part of the reason there are concerns around this kind of thing is because there is a heightened sensibility about who has access to what records right now.

And it's and it's not simply this that is at work in this consideration right now.

And honestly, I I I feel and I think many others feel that our personal information is at risk that there is a specific effort to make use of that information in ways that have not been done before that I think are likely illegal, and in my opinion, at least at this point are.

So I just think it's important to recognize that that's where this conversation is taking place within that context.

And uh I'm not speaking about what is happening locally, I'm talking about what is happening at the federal level.

And um I just want to note that additional council comments.

All right.

Holly, will you please call roll on bill two eighteen twenty-five?

Council Bill 21825, Ms.

Peters?

Yes.

Ms.

Buffalo?

Yes.

Ms.

Carroll?

Yes.

Ms.

Elwood?

Yes.

Ms.

Sample?

Yes.

Mr.

Foster?

Yes.

Mr.

Waterman.

Yes.

All right, moving on.

Holly, will you please read Bill 24125?

Council Bill 24125 is an ordinance authorizing an agreement for professional services with TMT consulting consulting LLC for trauma-informed and community mental health trainings and presentations, amending the FY2025 annual budget by appropriating funds in the amount of $21,000 and fixing the time when this ordinance shall become effective, second reading.

Do we have a staff report?

Yes.

DeMarcus Thomas Brown, the administrator of the Office of Violence Prevention.

And so this is a an ordinance to approve a contract of services with TMT consulting for our community mental health for practical community application trainings.

And what this the reason being is because when we've been working with the neighborhood off neighborhood opportunity and community accountability pro council groups.

Those are groups formed out of our office.

And we are continuing to have successive situations compound on the lack of healing.

And so asking the neighbor, the neighbors that are part of these groups if they knew about adverse childhood experiences.

And so evidence-based practices show out with national Office of Violence Prevention Network that trauma-informed community-oriented systems of care are necessary to see prevention and intervention, which starts with the aspect of what happened to you, not what's wrong with you.

And the overwhelmingly response from the neighborhoods, the neighbors in these in the neighborhoods that did not know about adverse childhood experience nor had the access to the training.

And so this would give access to adequate training, also adequate training on grief and healing that can start the process of communal healing so that we can see prevention and intervention in these in these neighborhoods in our city.

Are there any questions for DeMarcus from staff?

Yeah, Betsy.

How are they going to be either identified or hear about it?

Yes.

Thank you for the question.

This training is geared for those in our uh neighborhoods that have been selected are neighborhood opportunity.

It's called NOCAT.

But everyone always asked me to go through the acronym.

But neighborhood opportunity and community accountability pro council, no cap, because all the young people know if you cap in your line, uh so we ain't doing no line.

We're actually in the community to hear what they're bringing back so that they actually see resources coming back to them.

And so these will be provided.

The target audience are those in these neighborhoods and the get the training so they can collectively heal together.

Now we I did get feedback from the advisory committee uh from different agencies that they're pre their I I would say practitioners, but their practitioners don't understand adverse childhood experiences.

And so they're asking, can we get the training too?

And so I asked the neighborhood representatives and they said yes, as long as we get the gross of it, up to 30 in each training, just so that the training could the continuity and the ability for our uh consultant to train that group of people.

Uh but as long as they get the the first of the line, then they were willing for it to be opened up to different agencies and partners in the community that need this training.

Thank you.

No, um, would anybody from the public wish to speak on bill two forty-one twenty-five.

None will come to Council Comments.

Uh Council Comments.

I'll I'll just add um so at my um annual meeting for the U.S.

Conference of Mayors, this came up as uh a way that communities were approaching a whole of government approach to public safety.

And they specifically gave the example in the city of Baltimore, which has seen tremendous numbers going down of um at Baltimore identified households where kids had certain environmental factors, and again, I got to hear the ACE acronym again, which you have been repeatedly telling others have been reminding me of what this stands for.

Um working then proactively within those communities uh to then prevent and then they've seen a results from that.

So I just want to thank you for proposing an evidence-based program that we're seeing work wonders in other communities to address this issue because we know it's not just uh uh public safety response, it's a community for active re trying to reduce it to start in the first place.

So thank you for that.

Yeah, Vera.

Um Yeah, I just I also wanted to say a huge thank you for putting this together.

Um I've been uh a foster parent for many years now, and one of the most frequent things I say is the training that I received as a foster parent should be available and free for every single parent and every single person who works in this with children and with community members.

And the number one training I recommend is infant CPR, and the second training I recommend is trauma-informed child care and specifically looking at ACEs.

So the fact that you are taking this training, which changes people's lives every single day, is evidence-based, has the science backing it, and is truly deeply effective immediately.

It's not something you have to wait a long time to see the return on investment.

It's an immediate effectiveness.

Um I'm just so grateful that that will be offered here in our community and to the people who most need it.

So thank you for coming up with this.

Thank you.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I also wanted to comment on um I guess this program as well as um the Office of Violence Prevention.

Um when I first read this staff report, I was curious because it sounded like public health to me.

Um and it is public health, and it is violence prevention.

Um I was surprised because it came from city manager's office, and when I found out it was you, it made perfect sense because community violence um seems to so often stem from disparities in public health in housing, in umployment and economic opportunities.

Um I appreciate that we have a separate office that can reach into all of those different areas of overlap and pull resources together to serve the community.

All right.

Um Holly, will you please read uh call the roll on bill two forty-one twenty-five?

Council Bill 24125, Ms.

Peters?

Yes.

Ms.

Buffalo?

Yes.

Ms.

Carroll?

Yes.

Ms.

Elwood?

Yes.

Ms.

Sample?

Yes.

Mr.

Foster?

Yes.

Mr.

Waterman?

Yes.

Thank you, DeMarcus.

All right, moving on.

Holly, will you please read the items on the consent agenda twice and call the roll?

Items on the consent agenda include bills 231-25, 232-25, 233-25, 234-25, 235-25, 236-25, 237-25, 238-25, 239-25, 240-25, and resolutions 129-25, 130-25, and 131-25.

Council bills 231-25, 232-25, 233-25, 234-25, 235-25, 236-25, 237-25, 238-25, 239-25, 240-25, and resolutions 129-25, 130-25, and 131-25.

Ms.

Peters.

Yes.

Ms.

Buffalo?

Yes.

Ms.

Carroll?

Yes.

Ms.

Elwood?

Yes.

Ms.

Sample?

Yes.

Mr.

Foster?

Yes.

Mr.

Waterman.

Yes.

All right.

Moving on to new business.

Holly, would you please read resolution 13325?

Resolution 13325 is a resolution authorizing the temporary closure of certain parking stalls on the south side of Cherry Street and the west side of Fifth Street to facilitate the restoration of the flat branch home loans building located at 101 South Fifth Street.

Do we have a staff report?

Yes.

Shane Caree, Director of Public Works.

Mid-Continental Restoration is planning to complete some building restoration work in the front of Flat Branch Home Loans at 101 South Fifth Street, which will require the closure of four parking spaces along the south side of Cherry Street and one parking space along the west side of Fifth Street.

The contractor will utilize a covered walkway and therefore the sidewalk and street will remain open during the course of this work.

The contractor estimates completion by November 14th of this year.

Mid-continental restoration is responsible for the meter fees in this location as well as any necessary public inconvenience fees.

Happy to answer any questions you might have.

Any questions from council for staff?

No questions.

Would anybody from the public wish to speak on resolution 13325?

Seeing none, we'll come back to council comments.

Any council comments?

Yeah.

Just wanted to say thank you for the inclusion of the covered sidewalks to keep those sidewalks open.

I think that's excellent, and I appreciate that that detail.

And I also appreciate the information that you shared that that doesn't have to be written into the ordinance.

So I look forward to this going forward and people still being able to use those sidewalks to get to football games or wherever else they're going.

So thank you.

All right.

Holly, will you please call roll on resolution 13325?

Council Bill 13325, Ms.

Peters.

Yes.

Ms.

Buffalo.

Yes.

Ms.

Carroll?

Yes.

Ms.

Elwood?

Yes.

Miss Sample?

Yes.

Mr.

Foster.

Oh, sorry.

Mr.

Waterman.

Yes.

All right.

All right.

Moving on.

Um, will you please read resolution 132 25?

Resolution 1325 is a resolution authorizing a second amendment to the collective bargaining agreement with Columbia Police Officers Association Fraternal Order of Police Lodge No.

26.

I'll recognize this was originally on consent, so in case anyone's looking for it, that's where it is.

But we had an amendment sheet for this.

So do we have a staff report?

Kathy Baker with human resources.

This is the second amendment to our collective bargaining agreement with the Columbia Police Officers Association.

This provides an increase in each of their steps of 1%, and then members are placed on the step that aligns with their time and classification.

Subsequent to CPOA's review of the council information, they notified us Thursday afternoon after the agenda was published about a revision and we made an update to exhibit B to reflect that request.

Are there any questions for staff from council?

See none, would anybody from the public wish to speak on resolution 132 25?

Seeing none, uh I'll first before we do council comments.

I'll make a motion uh to amend resolution 132 25 per the amendment sheet, which replaces exhibit B to attachment A.

Thank you.

All those in favor of the amendment sheet say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

All right.

Now any council comments on this one.

No, uh thank you for uh working with our staff to come to a collective bargain agreement amendments.

Appreciate that.

Um Holly, will you please call roll on resolution 132 25 as amended?

Resolution 132 25 as amended, Ms.

Peters?

Yes.

Ms.

Buffalo?

Yes.

Ms.

Carroll?

Yes.

Ms.

Alwood?

Yes.

Ms.

Sample?

Yes.

Mr.

Foster?

Yes.

Mr.

Waterman.

Yes.

All right.

Moving on to introduction and first reading items.

Holly, will you please read the items under introduction and first read?

All bills are introduced by the mayor unless otherwise indicated.

Policy resolution 13425 and council bills 242 25, 243 25, 244, 25, 245, 25, 246, 25, 247, 25, 248, 25, 249, 25, 250, 25, 251, 25, 252, 25, 253, 25, 254, 25, and 25525 first reading.

Thank you.

Moving on to reports.

Report 4725.

This is communication from the Commission on Human Rights regarding the mediation services in Chapter 12 and the Code of Ordinance.

Do we have a staff report?

Yes.

DeAndre Thompson, administrator for diversity, equity, and inclusion, also staff liaison for the Human Rights Commission.

So the Commissioner on Human Rights requested just to provide a report to their current Chapter 12 ordinance regarding mediation services.

Currently, the mediation services contract process involves us contracting a third party to conduct mediation services.

But previously it was in partnership or in relationship with the University of Missouri School of Law Dispute Resolution Office as a service that I think was already agreed upon.

But now that it is being contracted out by a third party, the the Commission would like to maybe alter our language to ensure that we are more stewardess with the resources because sometimes the complaints that come in may not always require mediation before investigation.

So they would like to request uh the council to at least review the potential of changing that ordinance language to allow for more flexibility of the investigation process and mediation services.

Any questions for staff from council?

So this is at the request of the Commission on Human Rights for this.

Um and it has uh the change in code potential.

Has this been reviewed by the legal department?

Yes.

Kristen Mengwasser uh helped me uh review this information as well.

Always make sure if we're about to change code ordinance.

Okay.

Yeah, no, we we would look at it again and and whatever you decide if you decide that you want to put it.

I think it the real request is to to make the mediation um permissive after there has been an investigation as opposed to to prior at the start of the uh proceedings.

Um the mediation doesn't cost a lot, it's about it's less than $500.

And that would 500 would be on the high end just because the cost depends upon the amount of time that's spent.

And and typically these, if you can get folks together in the room to talk about it, you know, at any point in time, it really can be an advantage.

So the request is for us.

Um the process would be for us to request for an ordinance to come back to us with the changes that are recommended by the commission and staff, um, and then that would come to us for a vote, correct?

Correct.

Any council questions on this?

All right, I'll I'll make a motion uh for staff to bring forward an ordinance with the changes for council consideration.

Uh do I have a second?

Second.

Second by Betsy.

Any discussion?

All right.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

All right.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

And then moving on, our final report of the evening is report 4825.

This is the electric integrated resource plan.

Do we have a staff report?

Yes, good evening, Aaron Keys, Utilities Director.

Uh in the last three years, there's been significant volatility in the capacity and energy markets for the electric utility prices for the annual MISO planning resource auction have gone from $10 per megawatt day to more than $700 per megawatt day, uh, particularly in the zone we are located in, which is zone five.

Um this is a price signal from MISO.

Um again, MISO is the system operator for the Central U.S.

electric grid.

And this is a signal that more firm generation is needed in our zone.

Um, MISO has gone to a seasonal auction to more accurately track available resources.

Uh they've also adjusted the accreditation value of generation resources, particularly renewable resources.

Columbia has a capacity only contract of about 38.5 megawatts that expires in 2027 and a potential for more than 60 megawatts uh from Sykston to expire in the 2029 to 2033 timeframe.

So the uh integrated resource plan that was completed in 2022 was actually based on mostly pre-COVID information and data.

Uh that that process started in 2018.

Um that data is somewhat outdated for the reasons that I mentioned previously.

So to help Columbia develop a long-term resource and financial plan for adequate capacity, we need to update our integrated resource plan.

The Energy Authority or TEA has been completing the city's load forecast, which is one of the major pieces that gets used in an IRP.

And as our market participant, they have the most of the needed information of our data.

They already have pretty much all of our data to move forward with something like this.

So the Water and Light Advisory Board's been discussing this capacity issue since January, where Greg Coffin, who was a board member at the time, provided the report that I attached.

Um and then additionally, MPUA uh came and did a presentation to us about capacity issues in zone five in particular and how some other small utilities in the zone are being proactive to address that.

And then TEA also discussed capacity at their joint training with City Council in May.

So at the September 10th Water and Light Advisory Board meeting, the board unanimously approved staff moving forward with a new task order for TEA to provide an an integrated resource plan.

So as part of the process, staff would plan to conduct um a public workshop to gain input and direct the integrated resource plan.

And then once we have a draft plan, we would go back to the public with an IP meeting and then use those results to finalize the plan, go through water and light advisory board, and then bring it to council.

Um tonight we're asking council to direct staff to bring forward an agreement for the Energy Authority or TEA to develop an integrated resource plan for the electric utility.

So I'll attempt to answer any questions.

Any questions?

Yeah, Vera.

Um during the public workshop and then the second public meeting as well.

Is there any outreach specifically to the Climate and Energy Commission during that time or any partnership with them or with sustainability since renewable energy is part of this?

Sure.

So that would be the plan would be to uh um do a campaign to get uh you know a good cross section of the community to come to the workshop uh to provide input.

Um so yes, the Climate and Environment Commission, CR Club, uh developers, home builders, you know, all those groups we would reach out to and notify them of the workshop.

You'd be doing direct outreach to those groups?

That's the plan.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Additional questions for staff?

Yeah, Don.

When you were mentioning all the various steps involved in this, can you give me kind of can you give us kind of a time frame?

Six months, nine months?

Sure.

Um well, once we give TEA the if we have to bring uh an amendment to our contract back to council.

If you approve that, um we would give them the go-ahead to move forward.

They think it'll only take them about five or six months.

Um probably the thing that's gonna slow them down is us doing the outreach piece and and trying to time that and and uh and integrate it into them developing the plan.

So but I would anticipate yes, six to nine months we should be done.

Okay.

Thank you.

Any other questions for staff on this?

I'll appreciate the response I had because I remember being on staff during the last one, and it took like five years uh to do the plan, not just update every five years.

It took five years to do the plan.

So I appreciate that faster timeline of a response to it coming back to us for improvement.

All right.

Um so with that, um, I'll make a motion um for staff to move forward with the agreement with the energy authority to develop the electric integrator resource plan for the electric utility.

Do I have a second?

Second.

Oh, everyone.

We'll good wear that one.

She was faster.

Uh all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

All right.

Thank you, Erin.

Appreciate it.

All right, moving on.

General comments.

Do anybody from the public wish to speak?

Eugene Elkin, 3406 rangeline.

Tonight I have two subjects.

One is too much repeating, but um the subject I brought up not long ago was the cell phone issue.

We know we need to address that if you all have any way of getting out in the community, sharing your thoughts as to fiction or facts.

I'm saying it's very factual that the internet, the energy that's coming from the cell phone is dirty energy.

I told you that the police officers are committing suicide.

We are always thinking our officers need more and more equipment in their cars when in reality, our world is in a mess.

And if you have any input whatsoever in the education of our children, we might need to get back to books.

That word is called hard copy.

All of us came that are a little older came from hard copy to the revolution of a computer.

We never dreamed that the children of today would know nothing.

Absolutely, other than to stare at the computer and get the answer.

And then one day, God, a doctor just happens to say, Oh, you now are starting to lose your eyesight.

I happen to be one of those persons that I was in uh introduced in 1979.

I wouldn't have a job unless I used the computer.

I've chose many times to turn it off in my life.

But in reality, we know something is seriously wrong.

And tonight you as the city council asked for a different way to present the city budget.

And in true reality, bookkeeping classes over yesterday.

Probably the children today don't understand.

You put it up there and you put it in a certain way, and you'll misermine what's what the future holds.

Since I'm talking too long on that subject, the other one's back to homelessness.

Thank you all very much for passing the B24125 mental health issue.

Recently in uh Sunday morning church.

I was suddenly informed, please don't let anyone leave the congregation.

What?

We have a naked gentleman on the lot.

And he's a repeat offender.

Oh.

Yesterday about one o'clock, I'm in the local itchies flea market when a disturbance at the door, two ladies are making sounds, and the one lady is trying to take clothing from the other.

We have a naked lady in the store.

What?

Thank you, Eugene.

You're at time.

It was not a very good thing.

Thank you, Eugene.

Thank you, Eugene.

Thanks, Eugene.

Would anybody else from the public handle in here?

Thank you, Eugene.

Eugene, please sit down and let somebody else speak.

Thank you, Jean.

Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

Seeing none, we'll go to council comments.

We'll start with Betsy.

Thanks.

Well, first I also would like to thank the finance department for all of the um questions they answered for me, including a meeting today.

Um I did want to ask about um perhaps having a pre-council meeting um just regarding the different bond issues that we have and another one regarding the capital improvement projects.

I find both of those very difficult to figure out.

Um, you know, what are we bonded for at the moment?

What are what are we supposed to be doing with the bond money?

Have we done it?

How much have we paid back?

I mean, I just have I can't get a handle on that.

And it was brought home again in looking at this um this budget that I really it's not really in this budget exactly, although the capital improvement projects are sort of in this budget, but not exactly how they're paid for.

So um I would ask that we um see about having some pre-council meetings on those sometime in the next few months.

And DeKarlin, you can correct me if I'm wrong.

So I know we had a work session on the capital improvement or we somewhat recently.

I guess maybe to have staff come up with a pro because you're talking about not just for yourself, but also kind of where the public can come and and also walk through the education opportunity.

That would be fine.

Um so maybe the request is for kind of staff to come up with the because I I'm assuming I know we have the next four pre-councils all have agenda items that are probably more timely, but I think to your point about especially the bond one, can staff come up with uh kind of propose what we could do to have this conversation related to bond projects.

I think it's more than just what we currently have bonded, but like what we typically bond versus put into the capital projects.

Am I understanding that correctly as well?

I I don't I I lost that conversation.

Um as far as where the revenues come from, I guess, for capital projects, the difference.

I just think we need to look at at the capital improvement projects.

If uh if we've had a report and we just need an update on it, that's fine.

But then it seems like every six months or a year we would need that.

I mean what I you know when I'm just going through the budget, there's just an awful lot of capital improvement projects that we are listed and they have some net funding and they have some funding and they have a total cost, but I'm not really sure any of it is exactly.

Right.

I understand what you want to do.

And then and then the bonds are are similar but different.

Right.

And that we do bond for a lot of things.

Yeah.

It would be nice to know what those are.

And if you if there's a graph or some I'm not really a big fan of Excel spreadsheets, but something that says, you know, how much did what's our bonding authority, how much have we bonded, what have we done, what are we paying back, what are our debt obligations?

We I don't have a handle on any of that.

So looking at the engagement calendar that was on tonight's budget agenda, we had a detailed council work session on capital projects and related to this in July.

Um so I guess I might ask for I might ask for you to sit down and kind of ask your questions of staff first so that they can design what it is that will help answer that question.

Because I I know we have a lot of.

Well, no, I mean, and if you understand it and you can explain it all to me, that would be great.

Although I'll hit up the finance department.

Oh, I would hit up the I would hit up Matthew before you.

I would say we also have not done bonds.

Do we have a bond?

We actually uh pre council and when it was we didn't do a pre-council, we did uh do a there was a process where council where council asks about our bond projects and what they were and where we're where we're at, so we provided that information.

Is there a report there that I've missed somewhere?

It was attached to the electric rates presentation on electric bond projects uh and additional information and then the water rates.

So two meetings ago.

Um our August meetings, we did the electric rates increase, which had the additional information that we requested for staff to provide for the bond projects in it.

And I think we can have it recensed.

No, but it's super complicated.

I mean, I can bring it back then.

It's it's super complicated, and especially as we're talking about the budget, it's totally understandable that like kind of like we did with the general fund, walking through the details of this, you you we can't have enough presentations on it or information on it because it is extremely complicated.

And there's a lot of misinformation out there that can then skew people's confidence in the decisions that we're making.

So I'm not faulting you for wanting to continue the conversation, Betsy.

Yeah.

So my substance.

But I will go back and take a look at that if if it's if it was all there, I just missed it in looking at the electric stuff.

That's fine.

I I think my suggestion is that let staff put together some an education discussion to kind of will talk about exactly kind of what the mayor was talking about, our bond process, what are the what are some of our bond projects, and we can kind of give a more of a nuance of exactly how it all kind of flows, and that may help with some of that understanding.

And then we can then we have that regular reports that talk about our bond projects.

But I think the first step is just kind of understanding exactly how we get from point A to point B.

And so that's something we can put together.

Yeah, and I would say it's that, and it's also the number of bonds that we have that come back in a piecemeal fashion to my mind.

But I you know, maybe I just need to go back and look at it again.

It goes back to our just our capital improvement process.

It's it's such a long process to go from a plan for a project to an actual project.

And so it's just walking those steps.

So I think there's a process that we can kind of show you exactly how that kind of moves.

All right.

We hear you, Chief.

All right.

Anything else, Betsy?

No.

Okay.

Valerie.

Yeah.

Um I had a couple of things that I wanted to address during um closing comments tonight.

Um budget season is a time when I check in on um where we are on processes that started last year and how we're situated for the future.

Um and one of the things that I've um kind of been keeping track of was the frequency of rental inspections and what would be needed to close that gap going forward.

Um I had intended to ask staff to re-engage with stakeholders on increasing frequency.

Um we've already had um two reports on this.

Um our report back in November indicated um that we would need an additional staff person to increase to a four-year cycle and three to increase to a three-year cycle.

Um I think the response that I got from staff and in discussing with Carlin is quite good.

Um the suggestion is um rather to engage on um increasing frequency for um those properties that already had um a violation or a history of violations.

Um that is specifically the um place where in our change of free uh fee structure last year, um, we lost some oversight.

Um and I think when it comes down to it, um staff does have a really good handle on where we want to be and what's needed.

Um so uh I I trust your instincts on that and the research that you have.

Um I'm really just looking to make the next steps um to put our feet on that path.

Um that way when we come to our next decision making step, um we are prepared.

Um and so that may look like um investigating the next fee structure, asking for um input, um whatever those next steps are necessary.

Um and I I do acknowledge that we are still waiting for a director of um housing and um neighborhood services.

Um I'm not necessarily naming timing.

I'm just making sure that we're following the path and moving forward.

I think you're waiting for a director of that, but then you're gonna start stakeholder engagement around that is the way that I kind of understood it.

Yeah, so so Bill Rata starts um September 29th.

And so one of the things that we'll talk about is just that.

And so creating a process to engage residents, also engage landlords to talk about what is needed, how do we move this umbrella forward?

And so understanding that there is a need for some more inspections, there's a need for maybe some changes to our landlord's license process.

And so just having that that overall view.

What was that for?

So there's a couple of things.

So it's understanding that we've gonna have increase short-term rental inspections because of now the short-term rentals, but also we are actually charging code enforcement to do some of our commercial inspections.

And so we can have more a proactive view of our commercial properties.

So I think that's one of the disconnects we've had where we weren't really doing that engagement.

Yeah.

Okay.

Do you need a motion from us to move forward?

No, I don't.

I think we understand.

Do you have any idea when we can I guess get back with um information?

So my for my first part of it, I'd say let's get let's get Bill on board.

Let's talk to him about this this project.

He'll talk to neighbors, he'll talk to Lee to make sure that he understands what we've been doing, and then we can develop a plan on how to move that forward.

And so let's give him a couple months in, and then we can kind of bring something back on here's how we think we can move this forward.

Um the next thing that I had to address, um, we've had a lot of discussions in the community recently in first word with recent um road improvements um and public works projects, even um utility um uh sewer connectors um about notification.

Um a lot of people, I think what I can say is to staff's credit, they followed our ordinances for notification to a T in that they post the no parking signs that say when the road work process is happening.

Um what I'm hearing um from residents is that they don't necessarily connect no parking signs to road work is happening.

Um and then the window of when the signs are no parking versus when the project is happening is rather wide.

So they don't know when it's going to take place.

Um and it doesn't necessarily prepare them well for we're going to have problems getting out of our driveway on this day.

Um it prepares them well to move their car, but uh they don't have the knowledge that they need to respond to it.

Um I spoke with DeCarlin a bit about this as well.

It sounds like we have some software coming forward that may help us with text notifications.

Um I think that's a great tool.

Um what I would look for is um reviewing our ordinances for notifications once these options come online um so that we can include the most recent technology.

Um so for those notifications, we're a bit more effective in reaching people with the information that helps them connect it to the project.

I guess my suggestion would be to instead of c codifying those type of policies, is just create a policy process.

And so that could be a little bit more nimble, because once you codify it, it makes it harder to make those changes.

And with changing technologies, it's not something you necessarily want to just put into your code book.

I think no having some process to talk about notifications is extremely important, but I think it's more practical to look at how we're doing that to make sure that if there's things that need to be changed, we can make those changes quickly without having to go back and then do you know several reads in order to make those changes.

What we're following now is codified, correct?

It's prompted by the code to do this.

Yes.

I I think my concern is we always can do extra.

We always can do other um but we tend to follow what is written that we should do.

Um and so I we need something in our code that directs them to a process, whether or not the process is codified or not.

Can I maybe ask um first before review, because I mean like you're very familiar with the process for especially like planning and zoning ones from your service on that commission.

Can I maybe ask, because you know, we know in some departments follow different ones, right?

They have different processes that they're doing, that maybe the first round of things we could do is for almost like a staff report showing us what are all the different or codes that are directing that.

And then we can then propose kind of changes or maybe elimination and the process created.

Is that what your outcome is what you want?

And I would understand that to be part of what reviewing the code means.

Yeah, I I would add that I'm not suggesting specific changes to the code.

I'm suggesting that we review the code and staff direct the changes that they think are needed.

Can we have first beforehand?

Can we ask for kind of a staff like can we have staff identify for the rest of us too?

Because I feel like Valerie's been in the weeds on this one for sure.

Um but just for the rest of us to kind of see what is the different um examples that we have.

Have staff put that together?

We can.

I think the my my concern about just making it as a part of a code change is technology's change and we have so much code sort of just kind of I don't think that's really the thing.

It's just more of like what is direct.

Oh, absolutely.

But first we have to know what do we have.

Yeah.

What's the current foundation that directly?

And I would I'll tell you my goal, and so we've been working on this for a while, is to actually get to that that tech that text process that you can geofence an area and by geofencing the area, then you can send text messages to people that will be completely impacted to make sure that they will get that notification.

Uh the software system allows for people allows for people to opt out as opposed to having to get people to sign up for projects.

I think we would try to do both where we can have something that people are opting into so we can make sure that we're sending things out to that group, but also as we're looking for a project, if we do a street improvement or a tree trimming, that we can notify that neighborhood that this is occurring in our neighborhood so people are aware.

And so that's our goal.

I think it's a good idea, like to yes, to use technology for this, but to Valerie's point, so that we have some we hear positive feedback from community members about the notifications that receive.

And then we have others that are like, I did not know this was happening.

And we know everyone's busy, and we're not gonna meet everyone, but just starting with that.

Um do we need a is is there any council uh disagreement with asking for kind of like the report to come back with that review and a process for then reviewing the changes coming forward?

All right.

Is that direction for you and staff?

And then I would say if you have clarifications um before you get too far into it coming back to council and asking, making sure that that's the intent.

Yeah.

I I think you have the intent of what I'm asking.

Well, I would like us to look specifically at the code as well, because I don't want us to have in the code um policies that are also calling us to not the most useful technique as well.

Um I'm sure that staff has ideas of um how to best address that.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Um I've got um a few things tonight, and I will start with the questions I mentioned earlier about the report relating to the humane society.

Um I was not on council when that report was requested, but I was in the audience, so I heard um the conversation.

And so there were a few specific things that I wanted to um see if we could add into that larger conversation in the report.

Um the first one, making sure that we because I think there was discussion of comparing us to what other communities are paying and making sure that we are comparing ourselves both to communities that have a partner shelter like we do with the humane society, and also communities that operate a municipal shelter so we can see what that cost difference looks like.

Um and then I was also wondering if we can compile this report maybe in partnership or reach out to the humane society so that they could provide a list of costs associated with the partnership.

I know that we are paying for space and we pay for food.

Uh but there are so many costs associated with pet care that they then cover somewhat in kind that might not be easy for us to get a monetary value on things like vet care, spaying vaccinations, rape uh not rabies tests, but other tests.

Okay.

Would that be I thought didn't we have don't you have a report?

You sent something to us, but I don't know that it covered that extent.

It didn't it didn't break it down into that level of detail, but but we can we can break it down a little bit further.

But we we do cover some net costs as well, Rebecca.

Health department directors.

Also it might be nice to see the report that we have, and then see what questions we have.

Rebecca Rosslett, public health director.

So the ask from um councilperson Peters was to look at some comparisons to other cities and what they pay for their animal welfare services, which we did.

We pulled it together and shared that with the city manager.

And we do have a good mix of cities where perhaps their humane society is the entity that also does the animal control services, or some cities where they do both animal control and they have the shelter staff and they operate their own municipal shelter.

So we have that information.

The other cost that you mentioned, those are all part of the contract that we have with the Humane Society for the care of the animals that are within the city and the county's um custody, so to speak.

So that covers the veterinary costs, the vaccinations, um, the spay and neuter, that's all part of that animal care contract that we have with them.

Uh yeah, I so I know it is in the current contract.

I don't believe the current contract lists out um like a uh a price value associated with that.

What I heard um during her public comment tonight was that um if we don't relook at this contract, they will be looking at revoking that contract and separating and not offering those services anymore.

Um so I'm wondering if we could get an understanding of what the cost would look like for us if they no longer provide vet services for us.

And I yes, and I believe that the comparison with the other cities will give you that information.

Awesome.

Thank you.

I realized DeCurly, I think you sent this.

I don't know that you sent this to all of council.

I may not have.

Okay, because I think it was just that each of us had sent an email to DeCurlin asking a question and he sent it to us, but you didn't necessarily send it to all.

So he can send out what we have and see what additional questions there are.

Perfect.

And I think can I can I also on into the same subject?

Nancy, you mentioned at a previous council meeting our kind of limitations on contributing to private capital campaigns versus cost of service.

Would you mind repeating what it is you you told us what we can and cannot do?

Sure.

State law uh prohibits you from making contributions to a private organization, um, charitable contributions.

You can enter into contracts for services, so in exchange for services, you can you can pay um once you've identified a public purpose.

And there are some ways in which we can um work with entities to try to reduce our own, you know, the the things that we have.

So for instance, with affordable housing, we waive fees for certain entities like Cho's that are receiving federal or state funds for affordable housing, where we found that.

Um so I I imagine we've probably been trying to identify something similar, but at the same time, the cost of service they're looking for funding to pay for those things.

So they are a partner of the city, so there is you can I you can fairly um easily provide the the public benefit um since they provide services back to the city.

And so just making sure that we are capturing and and covering the cost of that.

Um we can't exceed the cost of of providing the services because that would be deemed to be a contribution.

Um so we have to be very careful about that.

Sorry, I just want to clarify on that one related to your same topic.

Go back very much more.

Nope, that would that was that was perfect.

And that closes my questions on the Humane Society, so thank you.

Um the other um or one other piece that I had a question on, something that we keep hearing um, particularly in the last few meetings since the community trends were reported on, is a concern about jobs and lack thereof in the community.

We keep hearing in conversations about the budget things issue, things related to transparency and availability of information and ease of access to information.

Um and I think we can highlight both of those issues in conversations about different outsourcing uh conversations throughout the city.

Um I think that every time I have brought forward a question and said, hey, this specific item that I know is being outsourced, can I get information on that?

City staff have been incredibly helpful in providing me the information I have wanted and providing it very quickly, but it takes already knowing to ask that question sometimes to find that information.

Um so I am hoping, and you might need to help me with how I do this procedurally.

Um, but I'm hoping to request a report that would compile our outsourcing across the city.

So looking at labor across different departments, looking at different consulting that we are doing any time that we are looking outside of our city employees for this budget that we have just passed, um, so that we have that compiled and are able to reference it when preparing for our next set of budget conversations.

So can I clarify um because obviously, like you know, some years we have a consultant, some years we don't.

So do you want to kind of do it within the snapshot of fiscal year?

Maybe go looking back at 25?

Fiscal year 25, that would work.

You just to kind of give you a time frame of which to look at and instead of trying to future cast.

Right, we've put in this project and it might be outsourced.

Yes, we can look at fiscal year 25.

Okay.

And I think the so let's say you're you're making a motion sort of to request um a report from staff breaking down um contractual services for things that maybe would it could have been done by staff.

Granted, you had enough of the staff to do it.

If it you know, I think that's your kind of clarifying is um because some of these things were doing you're saying that they were doing it because they don't have staff, or are you saying that um with existing staff levels?

I'll give you an example is like outsourcing for a while um for trash collection was a big deal because we didn't have enough staff to fill it.

So I guess that's my kind of clarifying is So I I would like to know the the layout of the outsourcing for fiscal year 25, whether it was because we didn't have staff at the time, whether it was because we're doing this really specialized work that doesn't exist in Columbia, or whether it was because we felt this made more fiscal sense for the community to be able to show this is why these decisions were made, but also just to have that information accessible in one spot.

Do you have any clarifying questions before we're I'm thinking I also realize this is a very broad?

Let me let me get back to staff and kind of let us get some notes and we'll probably reach back out with some questions to kind of get more specificity of exactly what we're trying to target.

What would be a good report to help you make informed decisions?

Yes.

That work.

Sure, yeah, that works.

Okay.

I know staff's been meeting to kind of discuss this and they've been discussing it for a couple of months to try to put together a report, but I think there's more general questions of exactly what are some of the what are we what are we trying to hit?

But so let us kind of pull ourselves together and we can kind of present some notes of where we where we're at and what additional information we were asking for to make sure that we get everything that you're looking for.

Is that something that I know we've also asked for a lot of stuff this meeting?

Is that something that you would be able to put together so there can be a motion at the next meeting?

Or if not, what would the timeline look like?

Kathy.

It is a five Monday month.

That's a lot.

It is everyone.

So we originally started looking at outsourcing what we outsource and for what reasons as part of a labor request.

And so we started with parks and recreation, utilities, and public works.

We had a meeting with the labor group, and then last week we had another meeting to talk about it.

The one thing we all agreed about was this was a very heavy lift and would take hours and hours of work to do that.

So a quick turnaround time is not realistic, but we're starting with those three departments to come up.

We Matt Unrine is helping lead this project, and he's developing a Google spreadsheet that we're gonna start with those three departments filling it in and then share it with the rest of the department so that we have something that we think makes sense and is responsive to your request.

So we're in the very early stages of that.

And I think all the three department directors are here and can agree.

I saw Erin shaking your head that it it will take a significant amount of time to get all of that information.

I do appreciate having a time frame, fiscal year 25 helps, so we at least know how far we how far are we going back.

Um of the questions that the group had was are we looking at a certain dollar threshold, like over a certain amount, or is it you know every single thing that's outsourced regardless of the amount of money spent?

Um so uh absolutely understand that this is a giant lift and will take a lot of time.

I would never have ex to be clear, I would never have expected the report to be back next meeting.

I was just wondering if the report on when on the report could be back.

I would that to make that clear.

Um in terms of uh money expectations, and I suppose I should also be clear that uh this would you might be able to use the same document, but like don't allow my comments up here to change the conversation that you're also having with the other organizations.

Um but I would I mean, my thought is fiscal year 2025 any amount of money, regardless of department money or reason.

Um and again, I know that makes for a very large lift.

Um, so I would not expect it particularly fast.

I appreciate that.

And like I said, we're at that exploratory stage to try to figure out how to put this together in a meaningful document.

If we get those three large departments, um, then we think the rest of the departments can duplicate that process.

That was our that was our thought after meeting last week to discuss it.

And I recommend, you know, I I I think I understand your intent behind this, and part of it is in relation to when we talk about staffing levels, and then we know within as the city has grown or staff has not grown at the same level, which sometimes does rely on us having to outsource, but when we talk about the budget is all related.

Um so can I ask for maybe in a couple of months to have sort of an update on how it's going and what sort of clarifying questions do you need from council to answer to that?

I think that kind of gets us them started, and then we might have some sort of draft examples similar to the Albert Oakland questions that you would ask that will come up at the next council meeting, where it's like why would you outsource and what could that be?

I think those examples would be helpful.

Okay.

Does that time frame work for you, DeCarlin?

Yeah, yes.

Okay.

All right.

Uh yeah.

Well, uh I'm trying to get clarity in my own mind about where we're going here with this.

And I think there are likely two different ways that this can happen.

One, we have a project that is specialized and we don't have anyone within our organization that can do that work, and so we outsource it.

Uh the other is that we have people within the organization that can do that work, but perhaps we're short staffed, and so we have to outsource it.

Does it make sense that those two categories kind of fit what we're looking for here?

I mean, I don't know how much time I would want them to spend pulling together information about specialized projects that need to be outsourced because we don't have that capacity within the house.

I mean, I guess I'm trying to get to what the real concern here is.

And I part of what I've heard is a concern about is outsourcing things that we have people within the organization that they can do that.

But sometimes what I also hear is that there are times when we just don't have the staffing.

We don't have enough staff to get it done, so we have to outsource.

So I I guess what I'm looking at bottom line, what what are we looking for here?

I think to me, bottom line is uh bottom line for this request um is the transparency piece.

So those conversations um like in the the Albert Oakland pool conversation, which is that some of that labor is being outsourced, is a perfect example because some of that labor is incredibly specialized, and we don't have someone in Columbia who necessarily knows how to make this specific thing with the pool happen, and some of it is a time frame issue.

We don't have enough employees to make it happen at a fast enough time.

And in either case, someone may come to us and say, why did you outsource work that could have gone to a city employee?

And so having the information to say this is why the decisions are being made, in my mind, we would need to understand the decisions in both of those categories.

Okay.

All right.

Appreciate the additional staff feedback, and I imagine there'll be additional questions going on for that.

Vera, anything else?

Yes, I did have more.

Um so my other thing that I wanted to talk about, and I suppose more open up to conversation, um, is talking about expectations for how we want conversations to continue when we table an item on the agenda.

When we have tabled for lack of information, when we have tabled because we wanted more outreach to a community organization, having an understanding of how and if and when gives that information back to us.

Sometimes we receive supplemental counsel memos.

Sometimes we receive supplemental items that have emails showing the outreach to community organizations.

Sometimes it is in staff report.

And it can be hard to predict how and when you'll get that additional information.

And so I thought it might be helpful for us to try to formalize that so that we can go into the meeting knowing that we will be prepared to vote.

And I know that often we are not specific in the questions that we have for staff when we table something.

And so on our end as well.

And I appreciate you you asked me kind of how to ask this question.

And I was not thinking it would be 10 o'clock at night.

So I'm not sure that we're all in the proper thought for this.

But I will say I think we would also probably need some feedback from council.

An example of this is uh this evening we had two items that were tabled at our last council meeting.

Um you know, one we were asking for additional public comment or public um engagement with the district as a specific example.

And the second was related to the closed records on that.

And we realized that we probably did not give clear direction that we want like a supplemental memo to come with that, explaining a little bit more about kind of the conversation that was had as well as what was had tonight, that that would have been useful to get beforehand.

And so we'll probably need some feedback on staff on what sort of how is it what's the best way to give guidance when we have those requests?

Um, because we want it to be useful.

It's not to be like a a gotcha, it's uh it's to make sure we have all the information, but that it's also maybe posted beforehand with the when the agenda is posted.

Yeah, I think from staff perspective, I think the the best process would be once we table something to kind of give us that direction on exactly what additional information you're looking for.

So the the this this means the prime example.

So for the for the cause for the um parking meters, the request was to go back and talk to the CID to get input.

And so that's what staff was able to do and bring that back.

And so it's just saying, okay, we're tabling this because we want more information.

So here's information we'd like for you to get, and then we can provide a supplemental supplemental memo that provides that additional information.

And I think at a bare minimum, I think um when it is when we do table something, especially for additional information or something up, uh I think maybe if we could assume that the default is to then have a supplemental memo, even if it just said council tabled this to have more community engagement, you know, it and there's nothing that the post end just to have that, I think that's probably a good practice for us to get into and having for that.

Um I think I would also want council to remember um when we table something to just the next meeting, often the agenda items are due the same week of our council meeting.

And so it might be then having us table to an additional meeting or an expectation that the additional information might be provided to us like the Friday before the council meeting in line of this, because for instance, I think the district meeting was just like last week when they met.

So I think if that's kind of expectations.

Does that work for you, Vera?

Yes, I was going to say that exact same thing.

Uh because if it was going to be a mandatory or not an expectation of a supplemental council memo, sometimes the council memo would say tabled so we could have meeting.

Meeting hasn't happened before I have to submit this memo.

That candid.

Okay.

Anything else, Vera?

Um, no, that is it.

Thank you.

Okay.

Uh Jackie.

Um, yeah.

So the first thing I just wanted to mention is there's an event this Thursday at the Blue Note for um that is benefiting Access Arts.

Um so if anybody's interested, I just wanted to throw that out there.

Um they provide wonderful services for our community.

And uh I laugh because my son, when he was little, decided he wanted to learn how to do pottery on the wheel, and I was able to take him there and we learned very quickly that he actually didn't like it, and so I didn't have to spend all kinds of money.

I could go there.

So anyway, that's this Thursday if people are interested and want to look into that event.

It's um I'm gonna say it wrong.

Celebrity, celebrate, celebrities, yeah.

Celebrar celebrate art, yes, it's a mouthful.

But anyway, um just wanted to mention that.

And then um the only thing I had is I wanted to kind of circle back around to the conversation we had last week um when we talked about requesting outside counsel, and um the I'd asked a question on process for that, and the the answer was uh it's generally a consensus.

So my question is do we have a written process for that consensus process?

Is that something that would be beneficial for us to do?

Just to lay out who and how and when we would go about if we felt that we needed to use that fund for outside counsel, how that would occur.

Well, if we were going to do that, we would bring it to you when we when we do select and talk about litigation.

Um that's something we would talk about in closed session.

So that's something that we probably ought to have a closed session on if that's something you want to do.

Okay.

Yeah, I would be interested in that.

All right.

Thank you, Jackie.

Uh Nick.

A couple of things.

One uh just want to say a word of thanks to Chief Schaefer for his words tonight regarding the two awards, the awards that we presented tonight.

Um I think that it's amazing that to hear that the circumstance which led to the event is something for which staff prepares and trains.

Um amazing about that because that means you're doing a job in which you know this could happen.

And when it happens, you need to be prepared for it.

And how out of um sight that is at last at the last meeting, I said something about coming back into town and seeing all the roads being paved.

Um see.

We don't really see what happens a whole lot behind the scenes, up on the lines, under the street, and so forth, uh, not to mention everything that happens in this building.

So it's uh it's important for us to keep in mind that there is a whole lot that's going on, and some of it is dangerous that we have people do.

And uh we just need to be aware that that is true.

The other thing is about the in the public comment that we heard tonight and the concern that the concerns that are raised there uh about so much that needs to be done and the critical need that we have for housing and housing that is affordable for everyone across the income spectrum.

There's a lot to do, and there are cities that are having some success in this.

Uh I heard recently of a city in another state, which is well known for having uh exorbitant housing prices, but where that is that is going down and the challenges that that presents, but it it's it's uh a success in in addressing this need.

Uh we have a housing crisis, and we need to we need to uh address it in that way.

I'm very much looking forward to us having a housing and neighborhood services department director and picking up on the housing study and putting that study to work, and we need to be committed to it uh moving forward.

This has direct impacts on people, and it's having impacts on people right now and every day.

I want to echo what Nick just said to Chief Schaefer and Utilities for the work that they do that, yes, it can be dangerous.

Uh I think it was mentioned that one of the dorms was struck by lightning this evening.

Um but wherever that happens, you know, the unseen individuals that are out there now, because we've had some weather that may well be restoring power to somebody.

So uh and it can be dangerous and the training that was done uh as Nick said that was done to prepare for that for that eventuality, and it paid off in this case.

So and a great thing to recognize those individuals tonight.

So shifting gears.

Um I did want to make mention something that's happening in the community is tonight while we're here.

Um also here in Columbia, we're seeing what I'm gonna call the end of an era.

Uh and that is the last Central Missouri honor flight is today.

Was today.

Um if they're on schedule, they should be should have, they were supposed to get in about 9.30 at the Marriott.

Um last flight.

Um it's been about a 16-year program.

Uh they've taken over 5,500 veterans to DC to see their various memorials and then uh a rousing welcome home.

I don't know how many people here have ever attended one of the returns.

Uh it's been many years for me, but I did, and it's it's wonderful to see the the welcome home that uh the veterans get that they may not have gotten when they originally came home from their service.

So I just wanted to acknowledge that tonight.

Um because again, it's kind of a 70, I think it's 71 flights, and just like I said, the end of an era.

Uh the other thing is with our outreach that we've talked about.

Um we have the next lex let's talk local coming up.

Uh it's mine, uh fifth ward.

It's gonna be September 24th, uh, starts at 530, gentry middle school.

Uh the primary topic is gonna be economic development, and uh Paul Eisenstein from Ready is uh going to be there with me.

And uh so come on out, and it's not gonna be limited just to that.

It's also kind of an open, a bit of an open form, but that'll be the primary presentation and and uh uh focus on it.

So but again, September 24th, gentry middle school, 530.

Hope to see you there.

All right.

Well, I think um so in addition to um uh thanking both Chief Schaefer uh and Director Keys for the the opportunity to recognize our employees who went above and beyond.

Um I'd also like to to recognize uh fire's recent response to multiple incidents over the last couple of weeks, um some tragic, uh and some just really weird, which were in my front yard yesterday.

So I want to thank uh the quick response from the fire department and Boone's paramedics to a person who randomly crashed their bike in front of my yard uh and they had a quick response.

Um so I just want to thank you for for them coming out.

Um I also want to ask uh so the EPA is currently reconsidering the 2009 endangerment finding and greenhouse gas vehicle standards.

Um so as you're aware, Columbia have ambitious climate goals, um, and but we can't achieve them without strong federal partners uh and the standards of that.

So for instance, transportation is a major source of our emissions, and if the EPA rolls back vehicle emissions standards, uh we lose one of the only tools available to us because we can't regulate that.

Um we are already seeing the impacts of climate change here, heat waves, flooding, and poor air quality that hit some of our most vulnerable residents hardest.

And so right now the EPA is taking public comment um from endangerment findings um from communities.

Uh and we've I've been asked um to submit a letter on behalf of the city uh that includes just the actual data of like where we see some of these impacts happening to us.

And so I wanted to ask uh for council support in submitting a letter uh urging EPA to keep these protections in place for health safety and the future of our uh Columbia.

So I don't know if anyone has any questions or comments of this.

Basically, I just took things from our vulnerability assessment that we conducted for the climate action adaptation plan that forecast out how we'll see some of these changes happening, and then just looks at just the actual data and the things that we have.

We don't have a lot of control over these things, uh, but we can work together with partners across the nation to try to address these, and this is one of the tools that I want to give feedback.

I don't know if they'll listen to the feedback, but I wanted to submit it on behalf of Columbia.

Any questions about this?

Yeah, Don.

Not so much a question, just a comment that as you said, this was in 2009.

And any time you have regulations like this, I don't I see no reason why they shouldn't be re-evaluated or reconsidered at times.

Okay.

Um I suspect that the fear behind this is with the current administration is that they're going to try to reduce that.

Um but again, to my mind, the f I don't see anything wrong with reconsidering.

Um so like I said, I understand the intent.

Um, you know, and the other thing with you know the EPA restrictions is there are compliance costs, they tend to get hidden in uh a lot of our things, but uh so for that reason um like I said, that's just my comments on this.

Yeah, no, and I appreciate that.

And I think for part of it is is when looking at it, um, it's not so much a reconsideration of is it's eliminating a lot of the standards that were out there.

I think that's uh yeah, I as I said, I think that's a concern with the current administration, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, thank you.

So I understand I understand the reason behind it.

All right.

Any other comments on this?

Uh no, so uh any concerns if I submit.

It doesn't commit us to doing anything, it just voices our own goals and and allies that we have.

So all right.

Uh that was my only thing that I had.

So do we have any staff comments?

Only thing I just want to uh thank the council for their patience through this budget process.

Uh it's no staff really worked hard to make sure that we engage our residents and that engagement is you know, I think one of our keys to our success.

So I look at the community, how there was such a disconnect on our processes before, and now during our budget uh meetings, you we don't get that.

We don't get the people saying that you're not doing it, you're not showing us.

And so that I appreciate our residents for actually coming to our budget town halls, coming to our budget meetings to really be an engagement our processes because I think that's how we success is by us working together.

So Nancy, anything from you?

Holly, anything from our deputy city clerk.

Appreciate you sitting in with us today.

All right, I'll go ahead and adjourn us.

1014.

Not bad.