0:05So thank you everybody for being here.
0:08This is a very important presentation.
0:10We've been looking forward to.
0:11So without further ado, I hand it over to you, Ms.
0:14Well, you know, I'd love to be your facilitator, but I do believe this also came through your side of the house.
0:21So I will interject if necessary, but mainly just sit here and be arm candy again.
0:26So you know, I like that role.
0:28Keep up the good work.
0:29And I did have a, I do, I do wanna say I did have a meeting with Jan and her team yesterday.
0:35It just happened to coincide.
0:36We had had this meeting set and then reset and then reset and and whatnot.
0:41So we're really excited.
0:44The administration is very excited about this opportunity.
0:47We're really excited about bringing all of the stakeholders from the NDC as well as East End and the staff to bring all of the data that we have so we can put together a real data-driven community economic development plan that addresses people and incivilities and physical environment and so really and then be able to put measure measured goals with that plan.
1:14So we're really excited about the partnership.
1:18We've been doing a lot of work.
1:19You all know you get briefing memos when we do work around policing or waste collection, et cetera.
1:26Um, but it'll be exciting to have a unified plan for all of us to rally around and live together in.
1:34So I will turn it over to someone who needs no introduction and let Jan have her show.
1:43Um thanks a lot for um allowing us to be here today.
1:48Um actually, Paul is gonna push that mic so it's the mic.
1:53Um Paul, Woody kick us off.
1:57I'm Paul, Paul Woody.
2:00I'm uh president of the NBC.
2:03And uh this is our little planning team.
2:06Uh, and I'll let each person introduce themselves and what they do.
2:10Uh Stephanie Zonars, I'm representing New Hope Church.
2:18I'm working with Jan at the NDC.
2:23I'm the vice president of East Dayton in DC, and also Tim Towers president.
2:30So we're gonna start off with Jim.
2:34There's gonna be two presenters, Jim and uh Jan.
2:39Uh Jim Barrett, who's the vice president of the NDC.
2:44Um Dayton and specifically Mazzini Avenue in 2013.
2:51You may remember 2013 was kind of a tough time period uh for the city of Dayton and particularly East State.
2:58Um the height of the opioid epidemic.
3:03Um this picture was taken out of my kitchen window.
3:06Uh those apartments almost across the street were um a particular problem at this time.
3:13Um absentee landlord owners that really didn't pay much attention to what was going on there.
3:18Um at one point, the City of Dayton police and um East Ending the meeting with the owners of real estate group out of Columbus and uh Christine Hamilton brought the information that um one in six calls to East Day and police um for the last six months had been for these two properties.
3:39It was absolutely off the hook.
3:41Um basically uh the the owner was warned if this continues, we're just gonna nuisance this whole property and shut it down.
3:50Eventually uh Dayton came um out of the worst of the epidemic.
3:57Um it seems like this got to be less common out my kitchen window.
4:01And um I think it's important to remember that a big part of at least what I could see working in in my neighborhood on C Avenue is that it wasn't just City of Dayton police enforcement.
4:12It wasn't just Sheriff Phil Plummer and the County police enforcement.
4:17It was uh Adamus, it was East End, it was programs like the GROW program, get recovery options working, um programs that had a fishing counselors riding along with police cars, visiting people who had overdosed in the morning after saying, Hey, we can get you into a bed.
4:34Uh it was organizations like families, uh, addicts, FOA that you know, brought people together around a subject that they were passionate about.
4:45And I think it was this um mentality of that this is a crisis that is gonna uh severely impact our city.
5:00And we need to all hands on deck, and there was public interest in it, and there was private interest in it, there were nonprofits, and there were community activists, and all of those organizations and players came together to make scenes like this not so common out my window.
5:09And so this is a picture that I took two years ago of the same apartments.
5:13Eventually, a local uh investor purchased those from the Louis and went through and renovated every apartment because it was somebody that could see the possibilities of what was here, and um brought some families to move in, some families that are willing to take a chance.
5:29And before you knew it, instead of the dope boys standing out against the fence, um it was Brock and his friends in the pool splashing, and it's just a whole different thought.
5:39And so that's one side of Zenia Avenue across the street from my house, and how I've seen the transformation.
5:46The other property that I want to talk about specifically, and I think most of you were at the in this picture back in November.
5:53Uh, when my wife and I moved into the house where we lived, this convenience store was next door, and it was a constant problem.
6:00They were had been, I think they lost their liquor license the 14th time they were caught selling underage.
6:06Um, they were trading food stamps for cigarettes, there was all kinds of bad stuff going on.
6:10Eventually they got shut down by the health department and other actors, and the store sat empty for a while.
6:15Um, East End Community Services managed to uh buy East End NDC, when it was back when it was part of East End Community Services, uh managed to purchase the property with the intention of opening some kind of a neighborhood market.
6:30Um the property was in too bad of condition to do that, and so that ended up becoming Ruskin Commons, which I think all of you were at the dedication last fall.
6:39And um, so this is a picture of what it looks like with uh six months of maturing growth.
6:45It's a beautiful property.
6:47I see families out there and kids out there enjoying the space.
6:50It's a great way to connect Zenia Avenue to Rustin School, which is uh one of the more popular landing schools in our city.
6:58And I look at this out my window, and I see on one side of the street, I see um a private investor who saw possibilities and who wasn't scared to take a chance.
7:08And on the other side of the street, I see a things like that to take down a nuisance property and make an attractive area.
8:02Hello, mayor, thank you for being here.
8:05Um I'd like to um roll the clock back just a little bit.
8:11So Jim, by the way, has been on the NDC board since our inception 2015.
8:18So he's been at the table with us for a very long time.
8:22Um I'm I think I was here uh to brief you um about 18 months ago.
8:31Uh we had well, the first thing that we did after we became independent from East Satan, the EastX Community Services, and we moved down the street, our little team here.
8:44Um the first thing we decided to do was a plan for housing development.
8:51And I um uh talked to you about how we divided the neighborhood of Duana Shugaman.
8:59Um we we kind of took some liberties here and um divided the neighborhood up and looked at the housing stock in each one of those four areas.
9:11And um what we concluded is or what we learned among many other things that we're a single family neighborhood, we got very few multifamily units, although Jim just talked about one of the old the biggest lots and the old ones that we have.
9:30Um we have we're down to about a 3% home ownership rate in this neighborhood.
9:38Um when when I was uh doing code enforcement at the city, so many years ago, we were um the whole city was close, much closer to 50%, 52%.
9:52There were times when it was a lot higher than that.
9:55So we've seen a gradual erosion of homeownership throughout the city.
10:00I think the latest census says it's down about 48%, and here in Twin Towers, we're down to 30 percent.
10:09Um, and as Jim mentioned, we have we we counted about a hundred vacant lots.
10:15Uh, and this was about 18 months ago, and there have been more demolitions since then.
10:21Um with the loss of home ownership comes a loss of community connections, right?
10:31Um, and uh pride willingness for residents to invest in their property and to spend their time investing in the future of the rest of the neighborhood.
10:43Um what we have found is that both residents who are homeowners and actually a lot of renters who love being in the neighborhood, uh, have said we we're ready for a change.
11:00This is unacceptable, this loss of homeownership and of the pride of the community.
11:07Um we think there's uh a demand for change.
11:14Um, we had um four properties that the NDC owned, residential properties, and um we sold them off to fund our NDC actually.
11:29The last property we sold was to a family who moved in from Kettering with two children, and it sold for 1699 homeowners.
11:40So we're really encouraged that there is a market demand for new housing and new construction for affordable homeownership in our neighborhood.
11:56Um we are targeting what you see there is Ruskin West.
12:01You may have heard me talk about this before.
12:03So if you know where Ruston School is on Senia Avenue, north of Senior Avenue, right behind uh where uh Ruston Commons is that Jim pointed out, uh the um uh the area to the west, all the way over to Target Ministries, uh Huey Street, um north of Xenia Avenue.
12:28We had tremendous disinvestment in the last I don't know, 10 years, um, a recent uh say of arson fires, um, a couple of years ago took out a lot of buildings, and um we're worried it's gonna um uh um cause disinvestment throughout the rest of the neighborhood.
12:53There's a spiral going on, right?
12:55And um it's threatening Ruskin School.
12:59It's our anchor institution.
13:01We're not about to have that school compromised in any way by neighborhood blight.
13:06So that is our target.
13:10Okay, so I've got two big announcements here.
13:13The first one is that um we are in the process of completing a renovation of 43 George Street.
13:23This is a uh little house.
13:25You see in the lower right-hand corner, what it looked like when we bought it.
13:30The porch was collapsing.
13:33Um other people had looked at the house uh for, it was in the nuisance program.
13:39They had looked at it, and the just the cost to take on the porch, which is went down into the basement.
13:46It had collapsed, collapsed into the basement room underneath.
13:50Um was it was prohibitive.
13:53Um we then said, well, it's a stable house, it's 140 years old, and it's frankly representative of a lot of the houses in this Ruskin West area, and we decided to take it on.
14:08Um, and we're almost finished with it.
14:10It will be put on sale at 1725 for um affordable homeownership.
14:18Um we're working with County Corps, uh, the Housing Opportunity Center.
14:23Um, and then it'll be it's fully rehabbed.
14:27Everything is new, including the porch.
14:31Um it's got four beds, two baths, um a suite, old looking um renovated pantry in the kitchen.
14:40We're bringing back the hardwood floors, and it's heavily insulated.
14:45So for us, this is a big deal because we're saving a property in George Street is parallel to Bruston's parking lot and play graph.
15:00So we're trying to shore up that section of George Street because that's the first line of defense.
15:09The second announcement that we have is that the last time I was here, I talked to you about Twin Towers Healthy Homes project.
15:20And we uh developed it.
15:24Uh we worked with the landmade to purchase all the land, these vacant lots that were in the Rust and West neighborhood.
15:32And we were successful in getting a city commitment from the manager's office for 60,000, another CDG grant for 150 that was awarded in the uh spring, and then we uh were just awarded uh this is a partnership that we have with County Corp and the Land Bank in East Aiden NDC.
15:57We were awarded a $1.2 million welcome home grant from the State of Ohio Department of Development, and um they've been very generous.
16:09Um the um the decision was made to give us half of that award, and the other half goes to troplyn.
16:17So we now have 810,000, and we think we can build seven houses of the original nine that we had planned.
16:27So they're all being clustered within uh four blocks, and this this neighborhood is only about uh a block and a half to two blocks deep.
16:39So uh we're gonna really uh concentrate the these new homes in the rest of the West area.
16:47So where these are the addresses.
16:49One of them is going to be a rehab, we're doing another rehab on Hawk Street.
16:53And in fact, we're putting four houses on Hawk Street.
16:57So, and it's pretty off right now.
17:01Um there's two pretty horrific public nuisances there that we were waiting to hear yesterday that um were on list to take down the one of the one of them, and I'm not sure about the other one, but um the neighborhood has really struggled with disinvestment on that block.
17:21Um, these houses are going to be um the new houses will be in partnership with Unabilt.
17:28Um, and I'm delighted to say that we're partnering with County Corp.
17:34They are going to be our production um agents or manager.
17:40Um it's there's um two and a half of us in the offices, me and Lisa and Carl Dougherty, who I know you all know.
17:50Um Carl's not here today because he's in 43 George, finishing up the rehab of it.
17:57Um, but we couldn't manage, and we sure didn't want to make any mistakes on our first big project.
18:03County Corp is building the capacity to do in fill housing.
18:09You know, they're working very aggressively up in Northwest Dayton, and um they are willing to expand their capacity taking on our East Dayton project.
18:22So um it's just kind of a dream come tree.
18:26We did all the pre-development work, and now we're turning it over to the people who know how to build houses, Univilt and then uh County Corp.
18:35These are going to be on basements, by the way, but we don't have enough money for garages.
18:40So in our neighborhood, the houses that have basements are the ones that people love of the 84 that we did about 15 years ago.
18:52Um so um the other thing I want to mention uh is the reason for the steep subsidy.
19:00Um we know that it's gonna cost about 270,000 for this model to be planted in our neighborhood.
19:14So it you know gets trucked in because it's a it's a factory-built uh product.
19:20Um at today's prices.
19:25It is about 1,250 square feet, a bath and a half, three beds on a basement, uh parking pad in the back, landscaped porches, front and rear.
19:42That's what County Corp is paying also, and these catch our numbers as well.
19:47Um we know we can sell them, we've had appraisals done for about 170,000.
19:57So roughly speaking, we have a hundred thousand dollar gap.
20:01Everybody is looking at that kind of a gap at minimum.
20:08So that's what's making housing so friggin' hard to do in any kind of volume because the subsidies we are enormous.
20:20Um, you know, we're we're working through this.
20:26Um, that 20 million dollar pot of money, department of development pad, the way in the welcome home pot.
20:35Um, I don't know, they they they send every bit of the 20 million, but most communities only got enough for under four.
20:47Okay, so we're taking this big pot of money and spreading it all over the state, and we're we're four new houses with public money.
20:58That's the financial reality that we're dealing with.
21:02I mean, we have a housing crisis in this community in every community in the country.
21:08We all understand that, but we wanted you to understand what the real what the real issues are.
21:14So um we then said, okay, yay, we finally got all of the money.
21:23Um what else you need to do to make the twin towers neighborhood attractive for homeowners to invest.
21:32This is going to be a first-time buyer family, and they're nervous, and they want to know that their investment is going to go uh to somewhere where it's going to be protected and will grow over time.
21:47So one of the things we we've done recently is we convened a whole group of neighborhood institutions that are working in the neighborhood.
21:59Um, this is the list of folks at the table.
22:03We've had two meetings with them, and um everybody was really eager to tell us what bothers them about the neighborhood, but that they want fixed, and they also told us they want to help, and we're really excited about this.
22:20So what they talked about, um if you roll it all up into a nutshell, are incivilities now, and this is our word for what we've gleaned from all of our conversations with our partners.
22:42Um incivility, incivilities are physical signs of neighborhood disorder, neglect, and anti-social disruptive human behaviors that create a perception that harmful conduct is tolerated by the community, which results in a continuous spiral of disinvestment and further decline.
23:11Okay, so if you put that word on it, let's let's talk about what we're we're looking at here.
23:18You can say, well, you know, we got speeding problems, we've got people behaving badly, we got drugs, all of that.
23:24Everybody knows what the issues are, but we can never assume that I mean this is not just the city's problem.
23:36You know, we're not looking at the city to solve this problem for us.
23:42We know there's gotta be an attitude and an action change among the residents and the people who whose livelihood comes from Z Avenue and environment to help try to change the culture.
24:01Now I realize that's a lot of high in the sky, but we're we've given a lot of thought to this, and we are um convinced that this is the only way to save that neighborhood when we're starting in such a hole with home ownership levels being what they are.
24:20Okay, so um Shelly mentioned that we um had a great meeting yesterday about how we are going to work together.
24:31Okay, so we've got some things um in the neighborhood on the neighborhood side, and then um we need the city to have our back on the enforcement issues, obviously, both property as well as um behavioral.
24:47Um so these are the kind of things that um that we listed when we had all these meetings.
25:02Frankly, because I think we are so used to seeing the physical deterioration of the neighborhood.
25:07That's kind of become the norm.
25:10And that's obviously not to change too.
25:15So obvious signs of disinvestment and lack of attention in the neighborhood.
25:26This alley is right behind George Street, right behind where we're rehabbing the house.
25:33My little car goes right into that hole there.
25:37And it's a little hard to get out some days.
25:42That is a house on Hawk Street, the one that is coming down.
25:46Unfortunately, that sat there for over three and a half years now.
25:52Now it burned once, and we thought maybe it could rehab and then it burned again.
25:57You know, it's a whole whole problem area.
26:00But it's coming down.
26:01We're very happy about that.
26:04The um this is you know, a property owner lobbed away.
26:09This is unacceptable.
26:14There's uh a letter on my desk.
26:17We're gonna copy it tomorrow and send it out.
26:20I went through the county property reference and picked off all of the absentee owners in Ruskin West, and they're all getting a letter, and they're saying, we're gonna do seven new houses.
26:32Your property values are going to benefit, but you've got to help.
26:37And if you don't, here's the yard standards, here's what's expected of you.
26:41I got the city to make me some copies.
26:44So we're sending those out, but the neighborhoods that hold those people accountable, in addition to code enforcement working with the community um to deal with this.
26:55So the property ownership has been allowed for whatever reason, because it's kind of been accepted, uh, but no more.
27:08It's a it's a new day.
27:10Um, so our challenge challenges are reverse the spiral of disinvestment, restore the physical attractiveness of the neighborhood, because you can't just beat people up, you've got to make it pretty.
27:26Um, and then the big thing because we've lost the social connectedness in the neighborhood, is work on rebuilding the fabric of the community, the social fabric of the community.
27:41And that's what new home is is gonna really help concentrate us on.
27:47So we have a call to action, which is a coordinated approach.
27:51We need all hands on deck, and we're mobilizing that now with the city.
27:58We're trying to figure out what the best communication linkages are going to be, how are we going to do this so that we're efficient?
28:05Um, because you've also got lots of people calling with specific complaints.
28:10But in Rust and West, we want to be willing to plan and action to get control.
28:21We we're calling this planning framework, because we're really in the planning stage at all in Rigas.
28:27Um it's a collective impact model.
28:31Um, and so we've got these three pillars, public safety and adherence to public standards, public standards meaning property standards as well as behaviors.
28:43We're not putting up with the guys walking down Zenia Avenue carrying 40 answers anymore.
28:50And police have been great.
28:51I mean, they are just stopping people and dumping the alcohol out and you know, really taking people to test.
28:59Physical improvements, Paul and I um and Jim, well, we're all involved in looking at the improving the um physical amenities on Xenia Avenue.
29:10We have a little neighborhood identity sign and uh Kiwi and Xenia that you can't even see anymore.
29:17You know, it's time to improve the lighting, um, you know, maybe pretty.
29:24Um, you know, let's add some texture to the community um in the public spaces that we control.
29:32I will say that we are um writing uh for a PDAC um uh uh designation, if you will, and working with um Congressman Turner to see if maybe we could get an earmark to fund some of these public improvements, and then we're also gonna add in a plan uh housing um expansion uh project and then social connectedness and support for struggling families.
30:01We have an amazing collection of social service agencies in our neighborhood.
30:18They're all at the table.
30:20Start working together a little better to see if we can reach out to some of the homeless folks that we've got.
30:26We've got a lot of Melbourne, you know, in the community that finds its way on the senior avenue.
30:33Can we do a better job of taking care of folks than maybe we're doing right now?
30:39So we're going to be asking that hard question.
30:42And then Stephanie is leading this whole business of how do we get out on the street and start connecting people to each other.
30:53We have six basic goals.
30:57Again, we establishing the civic order in a very broad term, getting people to do what they're supposed to do, you know.
31:08Encouraging voluntary proactive maintenance of properties.
31:14I mentioned that, implementing the housing project, improving the physical environment, engaging residents, and coordinating the social services.
31:26So those are the goals we're setting up.
31:28We're looking at how do we measure change over time.
31:33So that you know, presuming everybody we're all buying into these goals, we also have to have a way of measuring our interest.
31:42So we're all working toward a shared vision.
31:48The question has come up: how is this different from promised neighborhoods that I know we know that um uh uh East End Community Services is going for?
31:59We're thrilled about that.
32:01Promised neighborhoods.
32:03Um, if we can get it as a community, improves outcomes for children and families primarily at rest and then as they age up.
32:16Um that's so critical.
32:20Um we're just so we're supporting that and are excited about that.
32:27If we can clean up the neighborhood, um, you know, start making a dent, it's going to add value, certainly add housing opportunities for home ownership, which is gonna create families that are gonna get involved with the skill and become anchors for that school.
32:44So it all works together.
32:46Promise neighborhoods is about people.
32:49Our work right now is largely around physical standards and and positive change for the neighborhood.
32:58So these are our key partners.
33:01I think I counted 15 local community organizations at the table.
33:06So we're all working in the same direction.
33:09We're all working together.
33:13Thank you very much.
33:15Uh turn it over to my colleagues for any questions or comments.
33:18Commissioner Beckham.
33:22Um, first and foremost, thank you all for your leadership.
33:25Um really um just excited about the work uh that you all are doing uh in Twin Towers and the surrounding neighborhood.
33:34Um obviously this is what it takes, right?
33:38Uh the collaborative effort, the kind of deep um engagement, uh the kind of keen and unrelenting focus on improving um you know blocks, right?
33:48So I I appreciate uh first and foremost you all uh staying committed to this work.
33:54Um not easy and uh certainly looking forward to seeing the progress right on the east side of our city as well.
34:02Um again, I I just want to uh lift up the partnerships that you formed, I think.
34:08Uh bringing county core um as well as the other additional partners you have to the table makes all the sense in the world, um, and I'm I'm glad to see those partnerships.
34:17I I only have uh um two points or maybe more of a question and a point.
34:23Um first uh clearly you all are doing some rehabbing, right?
34:28But you're also doing um some new bills and based on a lot of the meetings I've had lately.
34:33I'm just really trying to understand uh for organizations that are engaging uh in housing right now.
34:41Uh what are you finding is more costly, or what are you finding is more profitable?
34:45Is it uh the new construction or is rehabbing um more cost effective right now?
34:53Obviously, both are necessary, but I'd really like to understand uh which one is kind of producing what.
35:00Obviously, both are necessary, but I'd really like to understand uh which one is kind of producing what well I would say on 43 George, we're gonna spend 160,000, and we're selling financing that we because we had money in the bank, and if we can sell it for 170, we're gonna be thrilled.
35:19Um we've had lower appraises.
35:22So the best we can hope for is a breaking, and that was a such the property because it was strategically located and very deteriorated.
35:34Um so with rehab, you have to be a lot more careful that we learn just can't go in and put 160,000 in a house.
35:45But the numbers may balance out uh compared to a hundred thousand dollar gap for new construction.
35:54So I would have to argue that it's rehab.
35:58Um the housing stock is worn out in this particular part of the neighborhood, it's very old, and um it costs that much to rehab.
36:11Paul the probably comparable, the real issue is human energy.
36:18When you rehab, for example, we have spent enormous resources doing the rehab, which means we're not doing something else.
36:27So uh in terms of efficiency, clearly in field new construction is better for an organization like us, simply because we can produce more housing.
36:40And and it's about volume, yeah.
36:43You know, if we can do if we if you can do 50 houses and they have the commitment for 50 houses at a time, um, they can lower the cost.
36:56But since we can only do handfuls, um it's it's not uh efficient to do that.
37:04One of the things you have to worry about is you don't want to be building a house on a street that's in trouble because it's the only house you're actually putting the person who buys the house in jeopardy, and that's not right kind of thing.
37:20You have to have you have to have a critical mass of control of whatever is your you're working in.
37:28And that means you've got to do multi-number of units, otherwise the project won't be successful.
37:33Doing onesie twosies, one on a block and one over here doesn't work at all.
37:39Well, thank you for that perspective.
37:40Uh, just one last quick question.
37:42Um there things on uh I I would say things in the process um that potentially the city could be uh uh doing to help further right you all's capacity and your ability to do this work.
37:58Obviously, there's the safety, right?
38:00And showing up uh in terms of some of the um the the uh kind of uh loitering and the incivility, right, Jan that you spoke of.
38:10But I'm curious from a just that infrastructure standpoint, like what if what has worked, what have you guys seen?
38:15Uh what are the needs?
38:18I think the city's primary role in efforts like this is public infrastructure, sidewalk curved streets, making this the infrastructure of the of that neighborhood work of thing.
38:32And and uh that's important.
38:34Now, of course, you need to have police coverage and that kind of stuff, but really when it comes down to it, building a house on a street that has no sidewalks, broken curves, an alley that doesn't function as an alley, that's not that's not gonna work.
38:51So and so public infrastructure, this is basic good old public infrastructure is probably the number one thing the city ought to do for neighborhoods like this.
39:02You know, we did it in right dunbar.
39:04If you look at a right dunbar, we did the whole network of streets.
39:07We closed off this street, we we created a network of streets that function in a loop.
39:14There's no dead-end streets in in right dunbar.
39:20And it was just basic public infrastructure.
39:30Commissioner, Commissioner's out.
39:34It's one of the model, I think it'll demonstrate what it's gonna take for engineering.
39:40So thinking for all the key pieces that are there that we'll learn from the service or work.
39:47Um Paul, I'm curious because it seems to me if I understood Jacob's presentation correctly, code influence will be really important for the city.
40:01And so I would add that to the infrastructure.
40:14So we're going to be working planning department.
40:34When I read code enforcement, I have 29 inspectors.
40:40And that's a big problem.
40:44As you all wanna see me change.
40:52And thank you all for being here and thank you for the work that you've been doing in the neighborhood.
41:03Well, at the Child Development Center over there.
41:06So I still I still get over that way pretty frequently.
41:09But yeah, I appreciate all the all the information.
41:13I was just uh over at East End, I think two weeks ago.
41:16So I had a really good conversation, was kind of being caught up on the work that they're doing on uh over there.
41:23So what what are most likely uh mostly want to hear about is kind of the um collaboration and the partnerships with the other organizations here that you're working with and how does that work?
41:34How are you all working together?
41:36I know that our police department has been uh working heavily with East End and uh other parts of the organization, but I just want to hear how the collaboration is working with.
41:47Is how's that going?
41:49Well, we're at the front end of establishing three work groups.
41:56Okay, so um the uh business community has sorted itself out and they know they've all said which group they want to be in.
42:06Okay, and we're kind of in the process of bringing that forward now.
42:11So that's the forum, and that's where we are um so the so the um the first work group is gonna be on um Sonolis, you know, and everything just talked about so um that's gonna involve the twin towers neighborhood association, you know, they've been burned on all of the issues in the neighborhood for quite some time, and there is a mayor's walk next week, so you will you will see some of this yourself.
42:41Um, but the forum is gonna be these work groups where we get all this input and then we we convert it into the plan and the specific actions that we need taken, you know, and some of it's gonna be long term, some of it's gonna be next week, you know.
43:04All right, well, yeah, that's kind of what I want to do here and what that's what I thought, and I wanted to hear that how you all are working together in that.
43:11So there's been a convening of all of these the neighborhood associations and everyone else.
43:18And then the plan is to use that and develop some kind of a strategic plan on on how to solve and what identify what the barriers are on all that.
43:28And then we will come, the city will come alongside and and uh you'll report out to the city, and then we'll develop a strategy to address that.
43:39Were you about to say something?
43:41So we're gonna come alongside them, you know, with our service delivery, you know, so that we're so that we're all lifting the one plan, right?
43:51And and addressing um all of the issues and bringing the resources we have to be able to come alongside as a partner um for the geography.
44:03Well, that's that's that's awesome.
44:05I um you know I talked to you, Jan years ago um about kind of the collaboration that's happening between um East End and Hope Center, and how that kind of was having sharing information working together, and I just thought that was just a fantastic way to kind of scale everyone up, right?
44:22Oftentimes the neighborhood associates, let's say that share the information that you had, so share the successes with other neighborhood associations.
44:29So that's why I'm asking these questions about the collaboration.
44:32I think that it's just critically important.
44:34So um, yeah, I look forward to to uh hearing reports out and uh and and staying involved and connected.
44:43Commissioner, Commissioner Joseph.
44:46Uh just want to say first that we often say that neighborhoods that are the most active uh have the most potential, and you all have proved that time and time again.
45:00Thinking back a couple of decades, uh three decades or so ago, and looking at how well you all have done advocating for your neighborhood and being active in the neighborhood over the years.
45:07Uh it's it's wonderful to see.
45:10Um that said, you all are taking on some of the toughest problems that we face today.
45:15Uh we're facing it all over, and it's not just us in Dayton, that the whole country is facing these things, but it's hitting us particularly here in Dayton.
45:23So your your fearlessness in the face of these is wonderful.
45:26Um, and I'm glad that you're working closely with with our staff with Shelley with all these good partners to try to move things along.
45:34Um, I know I just want to say that and say thank you for your engagement.
45:37Uh Commissioner Beckham asked the question I was going to ask, and uh Commissioner uh Shaw just reinforced the one thing I want to reinforce.
45:45So mostly I just want to say thank you for not being afraid to take on these tough problems.
45:49Um really we're we're glad to come alongside you and we're interested to see how it goes because we want to copy you in other places too.
45:59I just wanted to echo my colleagues' comments.
46:02Um then I will also note too.
46:05I literally wrote it on my on my desk and laptop with the housing uh code enforcement.
46:11Um I'll also add to that um again, thank you so much for your leadership.
46:16I know you've been at this for for quite some time, along with all the group board members, the entire staff, um, the commitment is there, and is there, and we really do appreciate the you all continuing on that path.
46:29So, with the the letter that is sent, um, my question and this you know, so geared towards the administration, how is the city complimenting that letter?
46:39I know that there is the potential letter that is being drafted, but I think it goes a long way if in fact the city is signed off on that letter as well, even if it is on the city's letter head with the signature block from um, you know, the eastern um uh towers development, east end neighborhood, Davy Neighborhood Development Corporation should kind of give it some weight, if you will, to know that hey, if you don't want to abide by these particular uh code enforcements, here are the the uh penalties that will potentially be charged, knowing that we went from criminal to civil, and we need to have that chart in there, and that needs to be a model across the city because that picture that is the depicted um on chart 10, that's request Dayton.
47:30That's all of Dayton.
47:32There are so many neighborhoods that look just like this across the city of Dayton, and we have to do a better job enforcing, and we need to make sure that there is a level of education and awareness.
47:43And so my charge and my ask is that how do we complement the work that is being done with Eastern community um neighborhood development, excuse me, and seeing if this is in fact a way for us to educate, to bring that level of awareness, but to also have that that weight and that um needed support that is needed to help with this with this plan that they have in place.
48:07I wasn't involved in the meeting that the group had with Shelley yesterday.
48:12Um, I don't know if that came up as a topic of menu.
48:16But no, this is a wonderful suggestion.
48:20And if if that was that'll strengthen this letter.
48:24Um, so you know, and see we can work on that.
48:28And maybe enjoying letters, yeah.
48:32That was very helpful.
48:34And maybe it, I don't know if I'm getting into too aggressive with it, but maybe it's also having the chief sign in the fire department.
48:41Like these are hazards that are caused in the city.
48:44We need your full undivided attention.
48:47You need to um mitigate this situation as soon as possible, or you will in fact incur these following charges or whatever have you.
48:55Um again, thank you very much for bringing over.
48:58I think the other thing is, and this is a conversation we need to have internally, because it goes to the notion of if you see something, say something.
49:06And we have staff members that, and this is Commissioner Fairchild's point on a number of occasions, like when we have our trash trucks or our police trucks or a housing inspector, uh vehicles that are riding through these various different neighborhoods, report it, turn it in, allow us to work collectively together.
49:25So it's not just all on the 16 housing inspectors that we have, because I think back in our day, Ms.
49:33Um, and to see where we are now, we know that it's a heavy lift for all of us, and we know that the ban which at this point in capacity is very slim.
49:41So those are some internal conversations that we were having.
49:44And so I would just ask Ms.
49:47Parlett if we can have some support on that to figure out.
49:50I will tell you that that does happen.
49:51Um one specific example I can think of is our uh fire prevention unit when they focus on a certain area and they move around the city based on what the issues are.
50:03If they see something, they've report it on date delivers.
50:06And it does actually I appreciate that.
50:08Like when I look at this burnout and I look at this paw, the question is okay, did we report that?
50:15How long has it been standing?
50:17Like all the questions.
50:18And I have no doubt in my mind that staff is reporting it, but how do we make sure that that is truly in fact encouraged and that there is this uh collective effort that is uh encouraged across the board because it's not all on the city, right?
50:33And it's not all on our residents.
50:34Residents have made a a commitment to live and stay in the city of Dayton.
50:39And I know I'm putting you to the choir, but I'm I'm very grateful.
50:42I appreciate you all's work, your commitment.
50:45Um, and I just hope that we can adopt this model so that we can move it across the city.
50:52Thank you all very much.