Great afternoon, everyone.

My name is Nicole Messiah, and I have the distinct honor and pleasure of serving as your DeCab County Commissioner and Chair of PECS, Planning Economic Development and Community Services Committee.

I have the pleasure to serve alongside my new PECS committee members.

One, Commissioner Robert Patrick from District One, but then also Commissioner Michelle Longspears from District 2 was in committee with us last year.

Also with us today serving as a part of this meeting is Commissioner Ted Terry from Super District 6.

And if you've had an opportunity to review the minutes, I will entertain a motion.

Thank you so much.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you so much.

That item has been approved.

The next is appointments.

We have two appointments presently.

One of our interviewees is here.

And so read off the agenda item for those following along.

We're at the top of page one.

That's agenda item 2026-0302.

All commission districts appoint Dr.

Sarah Petatunde.

Pat nod.

Pat nod.

All right.

Patna, there we go.

To post two of the DeCab Regional Land Bank Authority.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Pat N for being here with us today.

We have some uh basic questions.

As we typically at potential appointees, that's being passed out to my colleagues.

But I always start by asking, you know, um just general questions in terms of your desire to serve in this capacity and any experience or work history, anything you have that you want to share in terms of um what makes you qualified and what you hope to actually accomplish or bring as a part of um being on this board.

Yeah, my pleasure.

Thanks so much for having me, and great seeing you all.

Um, I'm Dr.

Sarah Pat Nodd.

I serve right now as the director of policy solutions.

And I'm sorry, is your microphone on?

Yes.

Okay, alrighty.

Yeah.

Um I'm the director of policy solutions for the Southeast at Reinvestment Fund.

Um so reinvestment fund is a national CDFI.

We do have an office here in Atlanta, and I focus on our work in the Southeast region, which we say is Virginia to Texas, so very wide Southeast.

Um my background is in housing, though now I also get to work on issues related to other aspects of community development, including healthy food access, um, early childhood education, commercial corridors, and other um aspects.

And my job is really about helping people make data-driven decisions.

So bringing informed decision making and coming up with strategy based on that data.

Um, my background's in housing.

Uh, previously I worked for the Decatur Housing Authority and Tapestry Development Group, which is a nonprofit housing developer.

So I'm experienced in the multifamily affordable housing space.

Um I've also uh prior to that worked in a consulting firm, KB Advisory Group, which is known here in DeCab County.

Um before that I was an academic.

I actually studied affordable housing policy as part of my doctorate in history.

Um so I'm super excited about this opportunity to bring all of that experience to the land bank.

Um I was actually part of the conversations with Madam CEO when that land bank needed to get re-invigorated and restarted, and super excited to get to be part of its future.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Patnod.

Um, and thank you again for your willingness to serve.

Um, just another question, and then I'll open the floor for uh the rest of the committee members and my colleagues.

You know, we have um 13 cities here um that are found within the cab county.

How do you believe the board can do a better job in engaging with our municipal partners?

Yeah, absolutely.

I think part of this is about kind of the the ramp up of the land bank authority.

Right now, I feel like we're trying to get our early wins in place, um, and it's going to be those wins and that success to point to that is going to make some of these other municipal partners interested in joining into the the land bank as well.

Um so it's much easier to show that track record when you've had a little bit of time, and I think we're right on that cusp.

Thank you so much.

Um, Commissioner Terry, do you have any questions?

I'll I'll yield to the committee members first.

That's right.

He's on a PEX.

My apologies, Commissioner Patrick.

I've got to get used to a new uh group of folks on the committee.

As the other guy with a beard, I I understand.

It's very confusing.

It's only been what, two weeks now.

Right.

There we go.

Uh Sarah, thank you for being here.

Thank you for um agreeing to consider uh the service.

Um just breezing quickly through your resume, very impressive.

Uh and it sounds like uh you you are probably the right person for the position.

So thank you for your interest in this.

Um I'm just gonna follow some of the standard questions.

Uh please describe your understanding of the role and responsibilities of the land bank authority, specifically how you believe uh the board can better engage with our you know what?

I'm gonna read the next one.

Um please describe what you believe are the most significant challenges and opportunities facing the land bank.

Yes, so again, I think that this is really that kind of inflection point for the land bank of getting some of these properties out the door.

Um, of course, it is a long process to clear a title and return properties to that tax role.

Um I think a lot of those initial hiccups are getting smoothed out, and I know that that's a partnership between the land bank um board and the link bank staff and the board of commissioners and the county staff as well.

Um so I think that this is this is a key opportunity for the county.

Um, and I'm really excited about the ability of the land bank to not only return properties to the tax rolls.

Like that's it's statutory requirement, but to really return properties to community use and to help the community um dig into this really important and vital tool as we're facing our affordable housing problems across the county.

Absolutely.

Um sort of a follow-up question, if you don't mind, Madam Chair.

Um so uh of all the homes that end up, I guess, going on the off the tax records and then into the land bank.

Do you happen to know roughly how many would be just through uh family members that pass away and there's not a will in place or something through probate court that ends up tying up and clouding the title on the land?

Is Diva just a yeah, that's a really great question.

I don't have a number at the top of my mind, but I do know that that question of what's sometimes called airs property is a key one that I think um as the county is addressing its county housing strategy.

Um I'm hoping that that'll get in front um addressed in there.

There's also some really interesting things that the Savannah land bank is doing around these kinds of properties where there might be a family member who's currently living in the property, but it has gone through the land banking process.

Um, and so thinking about how you can um again think about that community use and that family use um as part of a land bank tool.

Okay, all right.

Um thank you very much.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Patrick.

Commissioner Longspears.

Thank you very much.

And to echo my colleague, Commissioner Patrick.

Um, I'm very impressed with your resume.

Thank you so much for being with us today.

My question is as an appointee to the land bank author land bank authority board, what would be your top three priorities to help advance the land bank's mission of reducing blight and promoting productive reuse of properties within DeCab County?

Sure.

So when I think about the priorities for the land bank, um, you know, those are really around increasing the pipeline and then also being able to turn those properties around.

Um but when I think about what my role would be on the board of the land bank, it's about equipping uh Tamika and her staff with the knowledge and strategy that they need to be able to make good disposition decisions.

Um so one of the tools that uh it's not just mine, um, but the reinvestment fund recently created was a market value analysis study where we look at the different types of housing markets across DeCab County, and that can be a really key tool to being strategic in how you are disposing of those properties.

You know, some markets, all you need to do is turn the property around with a clear title, and somebody can do something great with it.

Other times you might need to bring some more tools along with it as well.

Um so being able to help strategically guide those decisions uh would be my first priority.

The second piece is that I'm really excited about this moment um with the strategic plan that the land bank is adopting, um, being able to help create some of those actions and make sure that they're happening.

Um and I think the third piece is really just being a thought partner to the staff in the land bank and helping bringing in some of those best practices, and especially I've heard that um the idea of potential multifamily development, uh, which is in my background could be something really useful.

Thank you so much for your concise responses.

I yield back.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Long Spears.

Commissioner Terry.

I will just add that I have uh interacted with um Sarah at various housing events and symposiums, so you're definitely the right person for the job.

Um, I think the the land bank is has tremendous potential, and um I just saw the director's newsletter yesterday, so there's like a lot of really great things that are already happening.

So you're gonna be going on to a board that has a lot going on, so looking forward to seeing how you can help support that work.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry.

Are there any additional questions or comments?

Seeing is there anything else that you would like to share with the the committee at this time?

No, I just really thank you for the opportunity and look forward to continuing to serve DeCab.

Thank you so much again, Dr.

Petnott for being here with us this afternoon.

Thank you.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Next, we have um agenda item 2026-0308, all commission districts to appoint Reverend Dr.

James Todd Speed to post one of the DeCab County Hospital Authority.

Dr.

James Todd, thank you so much for being here with us.

We're just getting um the packet right now.

Great afternoon.

And while we're just glancing over this, if you wouldn't mind just I see initial question as Dr.

Pat nods, excuse me, in terms of your experience and just what you would like to share that you think will be helpful in serving in this capacity.

And um specifically, uh is there any you know details or anything you would like to bring to or change any things that you think that you will do to you know improve the hospital authority?

I'm learning uh very uh it's like drinking through a fire hose, getting through all the uh um the information about the various boards, and I've been on the hospital board for a couple of years now and uh really appreciated the the work of uh Jen Shuck and her her leadership team and the board there.

Uh we hear a lot of stories about how it used to be four or five, six years ago before as the merger was happening with Emory and before that, and and uh feel very fortunate that where we are now and the direction the the hospital the DeCab Emory Decatur Hospital is going.

And so I'm very excited about its future and and uh been a long long time conversation partner with Bob Wilson about uh being on the board and and his experiences there, and um he uh kind of recruited me to step come step in and be part of this new season of the of the hospital.

So thank you so much for that.

And I will uh just share, and since we're talking about the hospital authority, we have some health care deserts in and around DeCab County, particularly in District Three, and I would be remiss if I didn't share that as the um District Three County Commissioner.

Any thoughts in and around how we can address and resolve that, particularly a potential new hospital?

Good question.

Good question.

I I know there's been a lot of community and at least efforts towards community engagement, uh preventative care, uh, trying to reach out and inform people of what is available.

Um, but in terms of a new hospital, I'm I'm not currently aware of uh, you know the explicit plans about that, but I would certainly be open to that possibility.

So you wouldn't be adverse if it came up?

No.

Gotta ask, gotta ask.

Thank you so much.

Uh I'll open it up for committee members.

Um, Commissioner Patrick.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh, thank you for being here.

Appreciate your willingness to serve with us.

Um let's see.

Would you please describe what you perceive to be the role duties and responsibilities of all members of the hospital authority?

Sure.

Um first is to to prioritize the health and well-being of the citizens of DeCab County and to work through the hospital authority in order to uh work towards that that mission.

Um it not being uh a doctor or health care professional, it it's uh we found that it's um it is helpful to have some different voices from the community.

Um I I'm a pastor, been in the in DeCab County for 19 years, and and um I listen, uh listen to the people, I listen to the needs, I listen to what people are excited about when it comes to health care, what they are frustrated about, what's what's missing, what's needed.

Um so I think the my role on the board is to kind of represent the community uh to the DeCab Hospital Authority Board as we go about our mission to uh seek the health and well-being of the of the citizens.

Perfect.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Patrick.

Commissioner Longspears.

Thank you so much.

And I knew you looked familiar.

Good to see you again, sir.

Two pretty awesome candidates right in a row.

And thank you so much for being with us today.

Um my question is uh what do you believe are the most significant challenges and opportunities currently facing health care systems and public hospital authorities, both locally and more broadly.

How would you use your role to help the authority navigate these issues, provide effective oversight and support informed strategic decision making?

Great question.

Uh a long one.

Of course, certainly uh financial sustainability is part of the challenge before any hospital authority and and with national um all the systems coming together and there being instead of lots of different hospitals, a few different um the few different conglomerations of hospitals.

I think navigating that change is going to be very important for for our local hospitals.

Um I think the the uh mental health is is going to be a challenge, continue to be a challenge, one that we need to address more effectively across the board, not just with the hospitals but with every um serving agency in the county is gonna be a tremendous challenge.

Uh the other challenge we have before us is the aging of the boomers and just the the volume of uh boomers who don't have adequate resources to address their health needs in the coming decades.

I'm concerned about that.

Great.

Thank you so much for that thorough response.

Good to see you again, sir.

Thank you so much for that and sharing that information.

Commissioner Terry.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, nothing to ask other than just to say I'm familiar with uh the work of Reverend Speed, uh done a lot of work in Clarkston as well as with the homeless um in DeCab, so uh appreciate him putting himself up for um service.

You already do so much, um, but this is a great role for you, so looking forward to seeing how you can um add value in your voice and perspective to the uh the board.

Thanks.

Thank you, Ted.

Thank you, Commissioner Terry.

Um and I'll also add there is some shortfalls in terms of funding just based on allocations from a federal level.

Um several of us recently attended the state of Grady address and realize that there was a uh 132 million dollar deficit.

And so with DeCab County uh along with Fulton County, uh actually being the head of the hospital authority and all of the folks in DeCab County that Grady serves.

Do you have any thoughts in and around how we might be able to um DeCab County or what your contribution or any thoughts, ideas you might have if you're on this board as to how to address that um that deficit?

Good question.

I think the hospitals, uh heart the hospital boards, hospital authorities, um uh the medical profession um altogether need to communicate uh to the community.

Um I would think the average citizen may not be aware of such uh you know funding issues and the and the long-term impacts of a loss of funding for Grady, for example.

And so that that message need to get out there, especially with the diversity of news sources now.

Um we can't rely on a local newspaper or local 6 p.m.

news to to tell the story.

So um the hospitals are and and medical the medical profession is gonna have to tell the story about what's gonna what kind of impacts lack of funding will will accomplish.

I agree.

And communication is key.

Any thoughts in and around how to best get that communication out to the general public?

Good question.

Um I think it's good.

I know there's a big branding effort going on right now with the Emory Decatur Hospital and social media is powerful.

Um we've we need to use all the resources available to get the word out that when something comes down from Washington that is harmful to our local citizens, uh then hospitals' authorities need to speak up.

Um hospital boards need to speak up and let the world know what's going on.

I completely agree.

Any other questions from um any of my colleagues?

Any other thoughts?

Well, thank you so much.

Is there anything else that you would like to share with us, Dr.

Speed?

No, I just appreciate the service.

Um my dad was on the board of Kennestone Hospital when it became part of Well Star, and I remember that fondly and kind of grew up in the shadow of uh Kenestone, and so it's uh nice to be here at Emory Decatur and being a part of this effort now.

And we appreciate you actually have a grandmother that's at Kennestone um hospital right now.

So yes.

Well, thank you so much for your time.

Thank you for joining us here today.

Appreciate you.

Enjoy the rest of your afternoon.

Thank you.

Next, um, we have a status update, and um that status update will be provided uh related to the TAD financials by VP Tiffany Wills from the side to cab.

Great afternoon, Ms.

Are you doing today?

Good afternoon, Commissioners.

How's everybody doing?

Doing well.

All right.

The presentations will be on the screen while they're being passed out to us.

Would you like to?

She could.

Would you like to come closer?

If you'd like to.

Yeah, come on.

Yeah.

We don't buy, not all of us.

Employees who you know come closer, so I appreciate you.

Yes.

Thank you.

All of us.

Yes.

All right.

Green is for go.

There's gotten.

Good afternoon.

I hope everybody is having a great Tuesday.

We have exciting updates on our TAD activity for ending out the year in 2025.

So our current TAD fund balance across all five tax allocation districts is just under $36 million.

There's approximately $8.5 million still being held by DeCAB County.

And again, that is for funds that were accumulated prior to Decide to CAD taking over management and administration of the TADS.

Additionally, we have accumulated net income for the year of $8 million.

Avondale had a total net annual income of $382,000.

Briarcliff, $3.6 million.

Kensington, $2.4 million.

Market Square, $444,000.

And Southwest to Cab, just under $1.2 million.

As a reminder, Avondale and Market Square are our smallest geographical areas for tax allocation districts.

So they typically have the lowest amount of net annual income on an annual basis.

So we have a total of six previous awards, including those that were awarded in 2025.

Avondale received a new award for cottages at Midway, that's just under three point um 2.3 million.

Kensington previously had 245,000.

I'm sorry, Miss Wills, give me one second.

Sure.

Shannon, can you uh make sure it's on our screen?

Thank you so much.

All right, it's a perfect.

It's all good.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Go ahead.

Um so for Kensington, the 118,000 is for a previous TAD award, so we are working with that property owner to collect all of their final documents so we can make a final disbursement.

So we hope to have those funds dispersed this year.

Um Market Squared, the 70 million dollar pay go award, of course, was for Lula Hills and Southwest to CAB was 3.8 million for Candler Crossing, which was awarded in 2025.

So we currently have 10 pending TAD applications across all five of our TADs, which we are very excited about to have a lot of activity in these TADs.

Um the total development costs of all of these projects is at $85 million total investment.

Total TAD funding requests are just under $25 million.

Um not all of those funds will be 100% funded.

Those are the requested amounts, and as we continue underwriting those transactions and completing the due diligence, we'll have final numbers once we go to the board for approval.

Um also interesting, we also have broken out the types of projects that are applying for TAD funds, which is across the board, um, a mix of uses.

So we have non-residential commercial projects, public infrastructure, housing, and of course, mixed use.

So we heard your comments at the last committee of the whole meeting and have included in our quarterly reporting updates per district.

Um unfortunately, Commissioner Patrick, there are no TADs in your district, so you will have some zeros.

I won't take it per se.

Yes.

Thank you.

Um, but we have a number of we have multiple applications in every district, and of course, six and seven will be a combination of the subdistricts that are in their areas.

Um, and then of course, we have our pending total TAD awards.

Um these projects range from 55,000 uh requested funding all the way to 10 million.

So we are extremely excited to see so much positive activity.

And then we've also provided the previous TAD awards by district, the total funding that has been awarded per district, and then a map to visualize where those locations are and the project names as well.

So we now have our five TAD funding programs.

Uh we have opened up the pre-development loan fund, urban renewal fund, and the small business property improvement grant in all five of our tax allocation districts.

Allocation districts.

The pay as you go and TAD bonds are only available in the three TADS listed because of the termination dates that are approaching in 2029.

There just isn't enough run room for those awards.

And then finally, we still have our interactive TAD GIS map available online for all of our TADs so you can enter in a property address and confirm if it's included as an eligible property.

And if you have any questions, I'm happy to take those.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Wills.

I really do appreciate it.

And you know, making it a little easier to read and be able to decipher it via district and then be able to see the open um projects.

So I really do appreciate that.

And I know you guys had to put in some extra work to be able to have that differentiator.

I notice uh when it comes to the pending applications that districts two and six have on average two to three more applications pending, but then also when it comes to the previous TAD awards, that districts two and six also have a migrations.

I probably messed that up.

We have a significant at least yeah, twenty-four times in some cases uh more than some of the other um districts, so both for applications and the previous TAD awards.

Can you um speak to that and why you know what's sort of causing um just those huge variations there?

Absolutely.

Um so districts six and seven will include the applications that are in districts one through five.

So those will appear to be duplicative.

Uh but for district two specifically, there is a large application in for 10 million dollars for an infrastructure project.

So that is um gonna account for 10 million of the 12 million that's pending an award, which we anticipate that that will be going forward for approval in the next 60 to 90 days once we complete that application.

Um, and then you have a number of um different projects, commercial projects tend to have a higher total development cost, and let's say multifamily residential property.

Um so we do see a range of you know 60,000 for small business property improvement grants, but the infrastructure applications are typically in the millions.

Got it.

I appreciate that.

And uh I want to open the floor up for some other committee members.

Commissioner Patrick.

Uh no questions right now.

Thank you though.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry.

I mean, I'm sorry, Mr.

Long Spears.

Um, first of all, I just want to thank you, Mr.

Dabar, and decide to cab, all of your staff and your board members for supporting the recent projects and district two and district six for the trail expansions.

We are super duper uper excited about it, and you have made a lot of people just really um I don't know, just just happy to see some progress there.

It's it's it's a project that's really been desired in my district for a very long time.

Um, my predecessor, Commissioner Jeff Ryder, was really big into trails as well, and he is also delighted.

So thank you so very much.

We're excited about that.

I am gonna ask the dreaded question.

You know, I always ask it every morning, and I'll continue to do it.

However, um, Mr.

DeVarr did state that the TAD acts are looking really good, and they'll be starting this summer.

That's right.

Yes, intent.

Yes.

Okay.

Thank you for the work on that.

I know it's um been on the table for about two and a half years now, and it took some time to work through the kinks and the details and work between lawyers and then you had a whole new well, not a whole, a whole bunch of new members on your board last year that required education.

So thank you for your dedication to make it happen, and I look forward to convening them in this summer.

Or working or making my appointment this summer to your TADAX.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Much appreciated.

Yield back.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Longspears, Commissioner Terry.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um Tiffany, just on the awards by district number.

So I think um the outlier is the 70 million from Lula Hills.

And can you just explain why that's maybe a little bit different than the other ones?

Like it's a pay-go, so just maybe just absolutely explain what that means and why it's it's so high compared to the other.

Absolutely.

So the Lula Hills redevelopment of North to Cab Mall is approximately 900 million dollars total development cost.

Um, our 70 million dollar TAD award was actually an inflated amount over the 20 years we're projecting that it will take for the TAD to actually make that reimbursement.

So the base award is $35 million towards the public infrastructure to uh establish the actual um footprint for um Eden's to be able to attract all of the wonderful new retailers that have recently been announced.

Um so the base award was 35 million because it will take 20 years likely to repay that through the TAD.

It is a total loss in value, so it's 70 million dollars.

Okay, great.

Thanks for explaining that.

Um and then you know, some of the newer TADs like Southwest to CAD TAD are new.

So, you know, really in order for the awards to be larger, like there needs to be development that is correct.

There would need to be a large-scale multi-phase million, hundred million dollar plus uh project in order for there to be a TAD pago award of that size.

Yeah, exactly.

So hopefully that's we'll see more of that.

We are and I mean you know, Market Square probably like will be full because Lula Hills needs to get built.

So that was kind of that was always the imperative is but for that TAD support in all the ways you listed, then the project wouldn't have happened.

Correct.

And we would be you know, out of a 900 million dollar plus development, or it just would have been delayed, and who knows.

Um so I do see, you know, at least in that situation, that was the right move to make because it meant that the project moved forward and will be, I think ultimately a a great thing for the county long in the long run.

Um the only other uh question I had is has the board discussed um dissolving any of the TADs, um especially if you're thinking about Avondale, Columbia and then the Kensington Memorial Drive.

Yes, we are currently doing an assessment of both Avondale and Kensington.

Um so we anticipate that that assessment will be done and completed in May, and that we will have a new recommendation for Path Forward to either continue those TADs until they close or to reimagine those TADs and create new tax allocation districts that are better suited for the community's needs today.

Okay, gotcha.

And in terms of sort of that analysis and then the recommendations moving forward, are you working with um Dr.

Ferguson and Jacob Ballow and Zach in terms of how the like the county's other housing and development goals um might fit into the future of those two TADs locally or just in a broader sense?

Yes, absolutely.

And decide to cav was lucky enough to be selected by ULI for a mini technical assistance panel to help with this assessment.

So their assessment will be completed in May.

Dr.

Ferguson and Jacob Fallow will be attending that presentation, and then we'll collectively make a rec recommendation to the board on how to move forward.

Right, thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Absolutely.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry.

Are there any more questions?

Um actually Commissioner Petrick.

Just having difficulty getting to that link.

Could you maybe when you get a chance, send a link over to the map?

Yes, absolutely.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That's it.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Wills, for being here with us today, as always.

We really do appreciate you.

Thank you.

Looking forward to next time.

Thank you.

We're gonna circle back for those that are following along with us back to page one and um go ahead and vote on our appointments.

The first will be 2026-032, and that is all commission districts appointment for Dr.

Sarah Pat Nod to post two of the DeCab County Regional Land Bank Authority.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Of the DeCab County Hospital Authority.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

That motion carries.

All right, we're going to continue on.

And we are now on page two under Parks and Rec.

The next agenda item is 2026-0307.

Great afternoon.

All commission districts, contract number 2000 132 pressure washing services for County Park first renewal of two options to renew for the use of parks and rec.

This contract consists of uh providing pressure washing services for the county parks.

It requests to seek the exercise of the first renewal through May 31st, 2027, awarded to facility maintenance and services group.

LLC amount not to exceed $63,000.

Great afternoon.

Good afternoon.

This item is uh one we are recommending approval on.

It is uh for pressure washing for all of our pool decks, our pavilions, playgrounds, um, and our park entry signs.

Fantastic.

Are there any questions from committee members?

No pressure.

What do you think?

No pressure whatsoever.

Seems very straightforward.

Let's hope there's lots of pressure.

We're gonna get these parks wash down, right?

Commissioner Long Spears motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

The next agenda item 2026-0395, all commission districts, contract number 1360830.

Tree cutting and removal services for parks and rec the annual contract second renewal of two options to renew for the use of department of parts and rec.

This contract consists of providing tree cutting and removal services for county owned facilities.

The request seeks to ratify previously provided contract term increase.

It seeks to exercise the second renewal option through January 31st, 2027, award it to TES MOS Tree Services LLC, the total amount not to exceed 250,000 dollars.

All right, and we are also recommending approval for this item.

Uh this is for tree trimming, um, taking care of our down trees, any dead trees, um, and all of that is done in conjunction with our county arborist.

So, fantastic.

And uh, how many arborists do we have right now?

No, no, no.

We have two.

I think we just added one.

Okay.

All right.

One addition to fill the yeah.

Um, and so to um my colleagues point, that's what I was thinking as well.

We just added um, you know, or some in the budget.

So I was just curious as to how we were looking at getting getting them in.

Um with that, I will open up um any questions if there any to committee members.

Commissioner Terry.

Thank you.

Just a quick question for Director Bass.

The um so for the tree cutting and removal, um, I know that's that's their contract.

Is there anything within the existing maintenance of parks or in this contract that would um allow for uh like the the cutting of like ivy or wisteria on trees, you know, that could eventually kill the tree and then force it to be taken down because it you know it was covered in invasive species?

Um not specific to this contract, but there are some resources that we're working with our maintenance team on to try to figure out ways how we can address um invasive species.

Okay, I think that'd be good because even just having you know just around the winter time going through and just cutting all the you know at the root of the vines um could go a long way to helping the trees.

Yes, sir, absolutely.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry.

Uh Commissioner Patrick.

Final question.

Um director.

Is this contract something to be more proactive about?

As in you'll have these contractors going to the different parks to look at existing trees that are in place, uh, or is this something's been reported uh or there's been a tree that's been noted halfway fell down and this comes take care of the rest of it.

Yes, sir.

This is um something from a maintenance standpoint to where if if there's a storm and uh we know we have to take out um some trees that have come down, we'll take care of that way.

If we've identified some trees that appear to be dead, again we'll coordinate with our arborist and we'll go ahead and take care of those.

So this what this contract is specific for.

Okay.

Yes.

Um, do you have something or have you guys considered something where it's a little more of a proactive approach to uh trees?

I know usually there's a clump of um pine trees, and as long as they are healthy together individually, they're fine, but as one starts peeling off, uh it can cause problems for the rest of the group, or as pine, excuse me, as oak trees get older, they can have a cavity in the center.

So just checking to see if for the safety of the residents, overall aesthetics of the park, um, if you have something that yes, sir.

And I think we we do have some plans.

Um don't want to um speak without um conferring with the team, but I believe in our um maintenance standards plan through our accreditation, we have something to mitigate that.

But um, let me double check and I can let you know for sure what that plan is.

And if we don't have a plan, I can figure out how we can start incorporating that within our maintenance standards.

Thank you, Matt.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Patrick.

Um, with that, if there are no questions or um points, I will entertain a motion.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you so much, Director Bass.

Appreciate you.

And all commissioned districts.

Change order three to contract number one two six nine three oh seven.

And change order number two to contract contract numbers one two six nine three oh four and one two six nine three oh five.

Abest asbestos abatement, demolition, and debris removal annual contract with two options to renew for the use by the department of community development.

This contract consists of providing asbestos abatement, demolition, and debris removal services.

It seeks to ratify previously issued contract term increase and to provide services.

It also seeks to increase the contract funds and term through December 31st, 2026.

Award it to Southern Demolition LLC, Kissin Kissburg Construction Incorporated, and diversified environmental management Inc.

in total amount not to exceed 480,525.

Good afternoon, Commissioners.

Community development is in the in-rim process along with a lot of other departments, starting with law and code enforcement, et cetera.

But we're the back end where we get the final orders from judges when things are adjudicated.

And so over the history, I've been there 21 years, but over the history, even before that, we've always done the demolitions using federal funds.

So we have an appropriate funds from the general fund to do a demolitions.

We've always used federal funds, which is not a problem.

And it's an eligible activity under our HUD guidelines, and we've been able to go about it for many years doing demolitions.

Today I I'm asking the board to be able to approve an extension of existing contracts that we have in place.

There are three.

So blight's very important.

Yes, Commissioner.

Madam Chair, if I may add.

You usually wear a hoodie to a demolition when you're gonna swing the hammer and take down the house.

So just so everyone understands while my colleagues were finely dressed.

I was in jeans and a hoodie because I had brought my hammer to take down that house because it was that bad.

Thank you.

So it's so with this uh uh it's not moving here.

Okay.

So the objective again is to uh extend three contracts that purchasing has put in the agenda item.

The legislation comes to purchasing when you have procurement, uh, is for 480,000 dollars as alluded to earlier.

It's for three contractors, which I'll get into more.

The three contractors are listed there, and we're very familiar with these contractors.

We use them over the years, but we're gonna allocate 160, 175 for each, up between now and year end.

Uh the background of this is that some of you know that there's a lot of blight.

The rationale for this is that there's a lot of blight in the Cap County.

We did a study.

Here's the severity levels we look at level fives to level fours.

This tells you a sense of how we categorize properties.

Um that's the map of telling you in essence for all the parcels going back many years ago as to where the blight would be uh for the fives.

It's about 7,000 units between actually ones and fives.

And uh here's a breakout by district and super district.

Uh it shows you that most of them are again in three, four, and five.

So it's the pent-up demand to get blight taken care of.

Uh also that those are the actuals we've gotten here to date in terms of activity for demolitions.

So what we like to do is request the informally to extend the contract because it's a very important task that uh we all loved to do, but it's very important because we make people happy that live next to these houses.

These individuals to get the demolitions done in their communities, extremely excited when we get through.

And the media uh sees this as a very positive to let people know that the CAP County is all about getting rid of blight.

So with that, I ask your permission to uh extend our contracts.

Thank you so much, Director Mitchell.

Can you go back a couple of the slides?

I think it might have been seven.

There we go.

That's perfect.

Thank you so much.

Uh this chart is could be difficult.

In realm has uh demolitions is done by owners.

The MRM process will force you to go to before judge if you're an owner or the county can do it.

In addition, the abatement, years ago we did abatements, we still can, but we elected to fund that with the general fund, and abatements come from either an owner or the county.

So that's what this chart explains.

It'd be great if you could um to provide there.

You go, you already knew where I was going with it.

Um just to see actually instead of uh just the severity and the districts to see what percent um each year are being demolished in each of the districts.

Or um, I'm presuming uh my colleagues would like to see the same information related to their district, but I like specifically for district three uh in the particular years, what percent of the demolitions were taking place in which particular district.

Uh yes, I'll do that.

There uh we have uh nine demolitions working on currently with final orders.

Three are being scheduled in the next couple weeks.

The 20th is one in district three and seven.

Um we have others in uh four and seven, then back again with three and seven.

And I'll invite you to those, of course, and we'll let you know.

I'll give you data, which is the actuals.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Um any of um the committee members, Commissioner Patrick.

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, on this slide that you have here, Alan, that's uh that is a great indicator of of what we have going on in the county.

So thank you for putting that together.

Um I know that uh we frequently have fires and other public safety engagements at residential properties.

Is there a way that we can sort of take whatever um incidence responses happen from public safety uh and then have them I guess either go through planning and sustainability or code enforcement or to your hands ultimately to sort of um reduce the amount of time between a house fire or something happening at a property where it gets into a dilapidated state and your team being able to move it through the courts more quickly.

Does that question make sense?

Uh yes, it does.

Uh um it requires me to explain the interim process.

So uh I'm the uh was the back end.

So if uh code enforcement was cite individuals over the period of time uh and they determine that should go forward to be adjudicated, they go to the law department and they provide a package to the law department, then they advertise and get the owners and uh legally have to do that.

The demonstration need to secure them and law can collaborate what I'm saying, and then after they get in front of a judge, and the judge could defer you or could uh extend many reasons.

Uh and then the judge makes a decision with a final order.

The order says that he will order you to take the property down if it's your property, and you have X amount of days, say 30 days to do it.

If you don't do that, just briefly uh Director Mitchell.

I'm gonna ask our interim county attorney since we're talking specifically about a legal process to um share the specifics related to that legal process, if you would, please.

Thank you.

Hi, Commissioners.

I'll give you a high-level overview just so you can see what's involved.

When we are asking a court for permission to go in and bring property in compliance with the code, we're asking the court to give us that permission without the owner's consent.

Occasionally owners will agree and will sign a consent order, and the court signs that often we have to present facts that warrant the county going in.

The very nature of this is safety.

We are preventing a safety hazard by bringing the property into compliance and protecting the public by doing so.

The general process is we provide three types of notice in order to get before the court.

It's published, it is posted at the property and sent certified mail to what we would call interested parties.

We conduct the title search, everybody on the title gets notice.

We walk in court and show them that the property is out of compliance through code officers who are our witnesses.

We try to use objective evidence such as photographs supplemented by the code officers' testimony about how it's out of compliance.

In a nutshell, what ends up with Mr.

Mitchell's group is the order allowing the county to bring the property in compliance, and an easy way to think of it.

If there's a structure, we remove the structure and all the debris, bring the property to grade.

That includes the foundation.

Oftentimes there's a slab that has to be removed.

If the property is just overgrown with trash and debris, junk cars and those kinds of things, but no structure, then all of it is removed and it's just brought in compliance.

Mr.

Mitchell's uh work is to have vendors come and perform the cleanup after the litigation is done.

But I've given you a very brief high-level summary of how the litigation goes.

And given the nature of going on private property without the owner's consent, oftentimes there is significant timing involved.

It typically takes between 15 and 45 days, the filing requirement, just to get everything presented for the court to consider.

On the third Wednesday of every month, the magistrate court holds in REM proceedings.

We will ask for one, the court can continue it.

Sometimes owners ask.

Once we get before the court, the judge may take time to decide if they're gonna give us an order.

Once they sign it, they typically sign the order saying the county has to wait 30 days, and that's the owner's last chance to bring it in compliance themselves, and then we'll go forward with Mr.

Mitchell's group to get it cleaned up.

I hope that's a fair high-level description.

That that's it completely.

Just wanted to make sure as um Commissioner Patrick, as we were um ask answering questions that specifically a legal process was addressed by our legal gurus.

So thank you so much, uh, interim county attorney.

And also uh Director Mitchell.

Commissioner Patrick.

Um perhaps maybe this question might be more for Zach then.

Um is there a way that we can set up a process that if if there's a fire department goes from response to a house fire, that there's a some type of a tickler set up for sustainability or for um code enforcement that says there was a fire at this location 30 days or 60 days down the road, we're gonna have someone from the county and another department go in and just take photos from the right-of-way to do an assessment of the house, and then if it's a problem as in the property owner hasn't engaged with their insurance company, uh, or it looks like it's well beyond a repair and it's a complete demolition.

Is there a way that we can have a process that sort of um has the county be a little more proactive to the I think so?

Let me um let me get with the team and see how we can put something like that together if we don't have it.

So this is a circumstance where the house becomes unlivable.

Right.

So a tree has fallen on it, or uh a fire has happened or something's happened where the house is rendered not habitable or is questionable if it's habitable or not.

Is there a way we can be a little more proactive and sure just do a natural Tuesday of the month?

There's a list that comes out that says there were these responses at these areas, these houses, and then staff goes out and just verifies this is or is not an issue that needs to be followed up.

Yeah, give give us a couple weeks.

We'll come back to you with some.

Okay.

Thank you much.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Patrick.

And great idea.

Um maybe easier than also in terms of providing notice because not so much time has gone by where the property is sitting in a dilapidated condition where they've left and it's moved and then moved again and then moved again, and it makes it even more difficult to find out who the you know owners are or to make sure that you have notice.

So uh great idea.

I love the way you think.

Any other questions from Michael Commissioners?

All right.

Seeing none, I will entertain a motion.

Uh motion to approve 0426.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Thank you, Director Allen.

The next is a human services agenda item, and that's 2026-0461.

All commission districts to appropriate SPLOSP funding to purchase, install, and repair Lou Walker kitchen equipment.

Great afternoon, Director Scott.

Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the PECS committee.

I have Aresia Kane, the manager director of uh Lou Walker with me.

We're here because um it's just a little background on Lewalka Center.

It's the largest senior center to Cab County, has over 3,500 members, and it's heavily utilized as you all may be aware.

And uh the Lew Walker Kitchen is 20 years old, and uh COO Williams uh referenced it earlier today that there was an allocation by a commissioner Marina Davis Johnson uh a couple of years ago, but that was prior to the extensive repairs that were just discovered as it relates to that center, which is inclusive of reconfiguration of gas lines and also some of refrigeration challenges.

And so the kitchen has been down for three years, and we've had to do a lot of work arounds.

And the human services department does not receive funding for facility repairs, but we are working with and have uh spoken with our facilities department who are here today, as well as uh the SPLOS manager, and so we're seeking approval for funding uh for a funding source which will be SPLOSS in equivalent of 265,000 dollars uh that will repair the 10 items that have been identified from that review.

And so the prior uh situation was a lack of a funding source for those repairs that led us to here today to asking for approval for the amount with SPLOSS approval so we can work with the facilities department uh to move forward with those repairs.

Thank you so much, uh Director Scott.

Commissioner Long Spears.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair, and always nice to see you, Director.

And thank you.

Thank you to our Lou Walker Executive Director for being present with us today.

Glad you're here.

Thank you.

Um I was sorry to hear this morning that your kitchen has been down for three years.

That's a long time as much usage as that center gets.

I can imagine it's been difficult to navigate.

But um thank you for bringing this today.

I'm certainly in full support of you being able to have a kitchen that actually worked and functions.

So again, I'm so sorry it just took so long to get here.

But thank you so much, yield back.

Thank you, Commissioner Patrick.

Uh yeah.

Um Director Scott, good to see you as always.

Um I'm sorry, could you repeat the number that we're approving today?

Or has been requested?

I'm sorry, the dollar amount that's been required.

265,000 is the amount uh from Sploss.

Okay.

That's being requested.

And that's that's it.

It's 276,000.

Did you say 265?

265, yes.

That's not what is in our item.

276 is what we've got here.

The original the in the agenda item it was 276,000 dollars that we requested, but I believe the SWAS manager said that 265 is available.

So you'll have a substitute for Tuesday?

So two things happened with this.

Sploshed one had a million-dollar line item.

This final revenue came in, we prorated that gave us a little bump over the one million.

We're collecting interest.

So with the interest as of the end of January, we've got 265,000.

We may be able to find the extra pennies when it gets the final quotes in to get to the 276.

I wouldn't change the number right now.

We're close enough to work with the funds that slowly accrue the interest in Splosh 1.

And that'll close out that category.

Thank you.

I actually interrupted Commissioner Patrick.

He has the floor, but I heard the number and I knew it was not right.

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

So for the record, uh agenda item says 276.

That was from the quotes that we have on it, but it uh the SPOSS manager at the time said it was 265 that was available towards it.

Okay.

Um, and again, looking through the packet, I forget the we don't have the page number on it.

But uh as I scroll towards the bottom, it says critical needs subtotal 1.5 million dollars and some change.

Is there a plan to address the the total critical needs, or we're just gonna take talk about this little portion right here for now?

We've raised it, and I it appears that it's going in stages, so the next area would be the pool area, and uh that's been documented, and we're getting additional quotes as we speak on that as well.

Okay, and uh hopefully a funding source can be identified for the pool area Lewalka as well.

Okay, and um I I know you guys know this better than I do, but sometimes one-time staging is better than uh multi-stage because it ends up costing your money for that staging.

But um, all right, thank you very much.

Appreciate it, and thank you, madam chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Patrick.

And and speaking of pools, I know we were working on the senior center.

Um the Atlanta DeCab, which is the eldest senior center.

So we've got to make sure we follow up with relations to um getting votes on uh potential pool with the um remodel and the things that we're doing there.

So just to follow up on there.

Um commissioner Long Spears, do you have anything further?

Just to clarify, so you do not have to prepare or the recommendation is that we go with the original item.

You're not you don't no need to prepare a substitute for the business meeting.

Correct.

Okay.

That's correct.

All right, great.

No, no more questions.

Thank you.

All right, thank you so much.

Uh Commissioner Long Spears, Commissioner Terry.

All right.

All right.

I think that's it.

Thank you so much, uh, Mr.

Kingsbury, for joining us as well.

I I think that is it.

With that, I will entertain motion.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

And we also have another presentation, so I want to um jump to that because I know we have um another presentation that's here and waiting.

And so with that, we will go to agenda item.

Well, we'll we'll just start at the Board of Commissioners District Six, agenda item two zero two four.

I'm sorry, 2026, 024 for all commission districts, a resolution requiring a countywide health and environmental impact study before the issuance of a land disturbance permit, LDP for a data center.

Science for Georgia is here to present specifically related to 0245.

But 0244 is related to that one.

So are they going to speak to this one as well?

Because no, I knew that.

Yeah, they're either related.

So yeah, I mean they can they have a presentation that might cover both of them.

Okay.

Then I'll I'll speak to that next agenda item or um sound out the next item agenda item as well.

That's 2026-0245, all commission districts and allocation not to exceed $15,000 of the DeCeb County General Fund to be considered for the FY 2026 budget to the Cab County Public Health to conduct a study on known health and environmental impacts of data setters on local communities.

All right to Science for Georgia.

All right.

So based on that substitute, so there's a sub for agenda item ending in 0245.

And if we can have uh the representatives from Science for Georgia to come to the play.

Thank you.

And can you state your name?

Yeah, uh good afternoon, everyone.

I'm Amy Sharma.

I'm the executive director of Science for Georgia.

All right, thank you so much.

Uh Dr.

Sharma for being here with us today.

Thanks.

Um would you like me to just kind of go over the ordinance real quick?

All right, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Uh so we're science for I'm sorry, give me one second.

She come here.

Uh a little closer.

Okay.

And to the next podium.

The better to see.

I'm the one at turnt 50 a week and a half ago, but you know, my colleagues are having a hard time hearing over here.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Uh hey y'all, uh, good afternoon.

Um good to see you.

All right, uh, Science for Georgia is a nonprofit.

We're dedicated to getting science out of the lab and onto the streets.

So we do um education, uh science communication education, science outreach adults or events for adults, and helping to make sure science has a seat at the table in policy making.

Uh so real quick, I'll just go through kind of what we've done so far.

We're in the middle of this whole data center mess, and then the study that we were asked to do.

All right.

What have we done?

Uh over the past uh year and a half.

Uh we've held multiple town halls across the state of Georgia to educate residents on what's going on, what data centers are, what they mean for their communities.

Um through this, through trial and error, uh we've held community education workshops.

Um we've also done a giant mapping project of all the proposed and planned and existing data centers in the state of Georgia, which is really hard because there are no uniform reporting requirements for them right now.

Um at the state level, we are working with the Georgia General Assembly on multiple bills around these things.

Uh and we have a collection of ordinances and moratorium that have been effective and ineffective, uh both in Georgia and around Georgia.

Uh and we run a coalition of coalitions.

Uh so we are uh around this I saw I think about my kids know entirely too much about the subject at this point in time.

Um but what we have learned through research is uh in the immediate vicinity, uh the the impacts are usually noise and light pollution and uh water issues if like not properly graded and handled properly.

Uh when the power goes out, you have a lot of uh pollution problems around air pollution from the generators.

You also have intermittent air pollution depending on the testing schedule for the um generators.

Uh locality, strain on water resources, loss of tree cover, impact on property values, depending on how things are zoned and where transmission lines go.

Um and the big picture is right now power consumption is enormous, and most of Georgia's power comes from uh fossil fuel sources.

All right, so sample questions that need to be addressed mainly to address both health and community impacts are where's it all gonna go?

What happens during a drought?

Who's taking care of the backup power generation?

Um, who's doing testing to ensure uh quality around noise lighting and water quality?

Um how is this being transparently shared with the community and what happens when the data center shuts down.

All right, so proposed study.

Uh y'all were interested in understanding the evidence-based best practices around specific ordinance languages and what what should be looked at uh by the county uh and contextualizing these practices in the state of DeCAB's current health and socioeconomic and environmental status.

Um what we propose to do to do this is uh hold meeting with stakeholders in the CAB, including the Board of Health and also multiple advocacy organizations, understanding their concerns, um, and then looking uh at research and summarizing the current state of the health and economic uh and environmental factors, um, if possible, working with the Board of Health to get de-identified data if possible, but if not, we can use census track level data.

Um, synthesizing all of these concerns, and identifying overburdened areas of DECAB and reviewing any current or proposed ordinances kind of in light of all this.

So what we can provide back is an analysis, like a very detailed report based on uh of the ordinance and how this all relates together, um, including water use, possible wastewater contamination.

Um, we're hearing lots of community concerns around Georgia around PFAS contamination.

So just addressing what that means and if that's even a thing that we should be looking at.

Uh backup generators, noise pollution, end of life planning, things like that.

Um, and then a checklist for communities if they want to start talking about community benefit agreements.

And we can have an optional town hall to report out.

Uh resources and partnerships needed, um, introductions to stakeholders.

Like this is for you all.

So if you want specific stakeholder voices, uh we would like to know who they are and get a list of them and introduct students to them.

Uh, usually if you send the email, then people respond to them a lot faster.

Um and then, if possible, getting um whatever level of granularity on public health data that you all have access to.

Um, and these are overlapping timelines you see on the next one.

It'll take us about four weeks to get through all the interviews.

And this is the most I would call risky part of the timeline, right?

If people are out of town, if they all disappear, uh stakeholder interviews are always the hardest part.

But uh, once we start in and on the agreement, it'll take us eight weeks nose to the grindstone and then four weeks to report out.

Um so this is kind of it.

Uh, we could take it'll take us about 14 weeks to get through all this.

Um I have so much backup information, but I would I am done talking unless you have questions.

Thank you so much uh again um for being here.

Um Commissioner Patrick, do you have any questions or would you like me to give me a moment to review this?

Thank you.

Of course.

All right, so I'll I'll just ask uh uh just briefly uh well uh Commissioner Tierra, I'll let you go ahead since it's your thank you, uh Madam Chair.

Yes, I'll just add that um Science for Georgia, I think has become a good sort of independent um expert on beta centers and the conversations.

I will acknowledge that y'all were very um supportive and gave a lot of input into the early drafts of the of our ordinance.

I know Rachel and Trisha and Eva and team um met with y'all.

So um, you know, we you've been sort of part of advising and getting advice on where we're at now.

And I think the the concern that we had heard from residents um in the last several months was just like the environmental and health impacts.

And so the goal here really is to bring in an independent group, a nonprofit that's based in science and evidence to not only review what we have before us, but to just have that kind of environmental health scan as sort of an additional layer of review and independent um thought uh based on the facts and the evidence.

I think that's probably the biggest thing that we've we've kind of encountered is you know, there are sort of different versions of facts, depending on kind of how you look at it or what you're talking about.

Um and so we're just you know, maybe just taking a little bit more granular approach to some of the you know things that have come up like the PFAs and the clean energy use and the generators and things like that, and just understanding, you know, what are the potential impacts uh of data centers thinking about I guess the good, the bad and the ugly, because we know there's a lot of really poor examples of communities that didn't have regulations and they kind of got sort of the worst kind of data center, but we are seeing other communities that have put really strict res regulations in place, arguably the cab has probably one of the most you know the most strict um quiet, clean and um uh comprehensive ordinance, but this hopefully provides another layer of uh analysis and maybe um you know confidence in what we're putting forward and uh you know voting on relatively soon.

Thank you.

You're welcome the opportunity.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry, Commissioner Longspears.

Thank you so much, and I apologize for missing um the first part of your presentation, but I've quickly had a chance to scan it.

May have some additional follow-up questions that I can email.

Um this is the first time I've looked at it.

But um the first question, they're not labeled or numbered, so under the scope of work slide, it says hold meetings with stakeholders in DeCAB, including the Board of Health and Advocacy Organizations, and then on another page, agreed upon list of stakeholders to be interviewed, and forgive me if you already discussed this, but do you have that list already, or is that something that will is in process?

Uh we were hoping to get that from you.

Okay.

Like you all would provide the stakeholders.

Like we're perfectly aware of a couple advocacy organizations, but like we wanna do the stakeholders you're most interested in.

So we're waiting on the list from you all.

So what is the process then to submit the stakeholders we would like to participate?

There's seven of us.

That's why sometimes it's just a little messy.

Is there a point?

Is he the point person?

Are you the point person?

You uh me, I guess.

Oh great.

Thanks for throwing me under the bus there.

Uh yeah, so um I guess if this gets agreed upon, um, I don't know, we'll put like a two-week limit on it and be like, these are let me know who you think it is.

And if it turns out that there's a list of a hundred, then we'll come back to you and try and work something out.

But okay.

So um Commissioner Terry, I do have some ideas that uh folks that would like to be a part of this.

And so I will, I guess to simplify, I'll just send my um proposal of stakeholders to be included and include and copy you.

And if you do get to a hundred, which would kind of be awesome by the way.

That's a lot, but there are a lot of people that are that care and are concerned about this issue.

So I wouldn't be surprised if that stakeholder group gets bigger than you might imagine.

Okay, well, if we uh we'll cry we'll we'll we can always pivot.

We're pretty flexible.

We'll make it work.

Also on that same slide, the scope of work slide, and this has come up before regarding the CAB Board of Health involvement.

This the United the item initially was to give the funding to them.

Um they did not feel that they had the capacity to manage this small project.

Um have you discussed because again, I noted if possible, the Board of Health providing this um granular data.

Uh so no, um, so that's kind of on you all.

So we have access to publicly available data sets.

So we can get publicly available public health data um from like the US Census Bureau and like the CDC and things like that.

So we can grab those data sets, we have them, we're ready to go.

If there's something, and I can present them to y'all, and if you all are like, we really wanted XYZ and only the Board of Health has that, then we're gonna have to get that from the Board of Health.

But if they don't have the time or the capacity or you're okay with the high level um it's all gonna be on census track level, if you're okay with that list, then away we go.

Understood.

So the if possible, really what we mean by that is that we would have to provide that data to you.

Yeah, because that would be our public health director agreeing to it and their team doing the work on that.

Yeah.

So if they don't have the time or capacity, we should I mean, there's a lot of publicly available data around like stuff like that.

Okay.

Good.

Um, she's here.

I just don't want to commit someone to something without them actually providing feedback.

Um yeah, would you mind commenting on that?

Sure.

No, hi.

It's nice to meet you.

I'm sure we'll be talking a lot more.

I'm uh Dr.

Lynn Paxton.

I am the public health.

Sorry, Dr.

Paxton, can you come closer?

Please if you don't mind.

I thought I'd escape that, but no, no, ma'am, I'm sorry.

We need you.

Okay, good.

That was thank you so much for joining us today in facts.

Yeah.

It's nice to meet you.

Thanks.

Okay, all I just coming up to say is yes, we are perfectly willing to work with you to the extent that we can.

I as I've made already the case I'm I've uh an explanation, is that um local public health doesn't follow every single thing that you're following.

Like, for example, the particulate matter and the effect on um, you know, lung all that we don't really follow that.

And I was saying suggesting that maybe EPA might, but other things if you you know we are definitely have uh some of the um we have lots of data about um cardiovascular disease and other and other things that we can map out for you where you know where it's all located in um in DECAB.

And in addition, we can also be or liaison with um DPH, Department of Public Health, you know, the OASIS system that they have, and that they you know they they track more, probably not everything you need, but more.

But so we're happy to to do that.

It's just that we could not take this on, but it sounds like you can, and so we'll help you.

Perfect.

Nice to meet you.

All right, it's nice to meet you.

All right, can you stay with us if you don't mind?

Dr.

Paxon, can I just say I'm sorry.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah.

It's quite all right.

I just have a follow-up.

Yes.

Okay.

So glad to hear that.

Thank you so much.

I know that you are a very hard working department of health.

I know you had something else on the plate.

Yeah.

It's a little stressful, but we really appreciate y'all um engaging on this.

My next question is um related to this optional town hall, and I'm sure you went over this when in my absence when I was had to run out and go do something.

Um so if we were to consider that town hall, certainly there is an additional cost to that.

Did you um let the folks know how much that cost would be?

Uh yeah, I included it in there.

It's it's about it's it's uh about two thousand, right?

Most of the cost is uh when you have a town hall to get people to show up, you should give them some food and food is expensive.

I think everybody up here understands that.

Yeah, so that's that's pretty much um $2,000 in in addition.

Yeah, and some printing.

We'd like to print the materials out to make sure everybody could take it home.

Okay.

All right.

Um I believe that covers my questions for now.

But if I do have extra questions or additional questions, I will follow up.

But I'm excited about this.

I'm I'm curious what we might learn.

Thanks so much, yield back.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, um, Commissioner Long Spears.

Um, just uh a couple of quick questions.

Dr.

Paxton, in terms of you said in terms of the um effects that it's probably more a DPA and getting that data from the DPA.

Yeah, I would say we'd have to we expl you know actually what we do with all things.

We explore all potential sources uh for us.

I'm just so I'm saying that I think that at the Deport George Department of Public Health, they have a larger database throughout for all of Georgia about that covers a few more um uh disease conditions than we cover.

For example, you all have a copy of our health and decab you know report, but as you'll see, we don't have anything there now about asthma, that sort of thing.

So um what we would then I would also recommend is that I do I I did have to work a lot uh when I was the health director up in Gwyneth Newton Rockdale when they had the bio lab fire, we had to work a lot with the EPA.

And so they have a lot of information uh that I think might be pertinent to to this, like for example, with particulate matter, the effects on uh you know the the environment and the like.

So I'm just suggesting that we could be happy.

We don't we do not have that information, but we're happy to serve to the extent that we can as a liaison with between those who do.

I appreciate that.

Yes, and so as um commissioner Terry has mentioned that uh a big concern for uh the um folks that are um really challenged by the data center is in and around the environmental um well-being, whether that's air, noise, or water pollution.

So that makes perfect sense.

And so um just looking at um the uh potential cost and access to data because it uh at one point it seems like it was shared.

You can't you have data because you've been essentially working with um our planning sustainability department, but then also that there would be a data research um component at the tune of 9900.

So if that's information that is able to be ascertained by our decab um department of health, is that something that still would cost the same amount or tell us what your thoughts are there?

Or tell us what your thoughts are there.

Oh, yeah.

So that was the labor cost on the analysis.

So the most of the data is publicly available and free.

It's just the sifting through it, understanding synthesizing, it's analysis.

It's most of the cost is just brain time.

Okay.

Fantastic.

I'll tell you, I would need help in terms of determining who the stakeholders are, besides the obvious the governing uh authority of DeCab County.

Um, but have you how would you and what criteria would you use to identify who the stakeholders would be?

It's a great question.

Uh yeah, so I was hoping to get a list from you all of people that you uh like the best.

And uh if it's a short list, we can just talk to all of them because that would be better because uh most of the time when we're um talking to members of the community, they feel like they are not part of the discussions.

The more stakeholders we can interview, the better.

If it gets out of hand, then we'll figure out if there's a way that we can uh either rubric like who reaches the biggest audience, who maybe speaks for the most, what groups are covered by each stakeholder, so we get a pretty representative stamp sample.

Um so we'll go through and kind of figure out how we're getting the most coverage across the county.

Got you.

All right, and so are there any stakeholders again besides the obvious that you've identified?

I know you said you want to, you know, get an exhaustive list for us, but just knee jerk with you guys being the experts, I'd be looking for you to you know give some direction here so that we can be most helpful in trying to get this data and get whatever you need to come to these conclusions.

Um so the Department of Public Health is one, uh environment and sustainability, obviously.

So those like major government ones, but then out in the community, uh we want to make sure we're talking to community groups that are kind of representing all different parts of the county.

Um DeCAP's pretty large, it's got pretty different various groups and localities, so making sure that we're covering them.

Um we've got good geographic coverage, but then also good demographic coverage.

Okay, thank you.

All right, and so what methodology um would you be using in order to analyze the data once you receive it?

Uh great question.

Uh so uh we'll we'll present it to you mainly with maps, because that's usually the easiest way to kind of show layers upon layers about what's going on.

Uh but we um there's a lot of indicators about what what makes the population at risk, and so we'll take that into account as to what is already considered a burden community and other things like that.

And then also there's a bunch of uh like high-level like lines in the sand that you can draw about what puts people at risk and what uh what overlapping compounding factors, so kind of layering that together and seeing what stands out to us.

I appreciate that, uh, Matt.

The visual helpful.

So um what's the you mentioned maps and presumably that's like the technique, but what's the error rate in terms of you know the data and presenting maps in order to explain to us um the information and the data after you've analysized it and providing a report?

Um it's an interesting way to think about it.

Uh you can't error bar the future, so like we're just gonna be presenting um known.

I mean, you're gonna have to look at it best practice side by side, like known best practices, like there are specific noise limits that that's it.

You shouldn't go over them or you cause hearing damage, right?

So are there already exposed places of noise?

Maybe we shouldn't put it there, right?

So then you have to look at that side by side.

Um what is considered uh a community that is like in um overburdened is kind of uh speculative, so we can give you ranges about like, hey, this is this is this this section of the cab already has uh more people with asthma than above the national average, so there you go.

Um so kind of just putting it in comparison to like what is there and what isn't there and what is considered the the possible good averages and what is considered above the range of normal is where we're gonna be going with that.

Fantastic.

All right, and then um uh one maybe two more just quick questions.

And so, in terms of um the technique and um some of your previous reports, um is it peer review or has it been published?

Um see here.

Uh so we did one uh that is uh we do not normally do peer-reviewed reports.

We will be assessing peer-reviewed literature to give you the the public health knowledge and the error bars that you wanted, but um most of these reports are done for y'all, and so we have not submitted them to journals.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um Commissioner Patrick?

Uh yeah, thank you, Madam Chair.

Just uh a few questions.

Um I guess like uh Commissioner Spears, I'd want a little more time to look this over.

But um just some general questions for the output outputs.

So uh use of water, does that mean you you guys have access to the amount of the volume of water that that these data centers use or oh lordy.

Uh you just uh no, no one knows how much water any of them use.

It's like a fun mystery dark box.

Uh but we can talk about how much water y'all have and um and general level sets that most data centers use.

Okay.

Um and then for possible water contamination and uh PFAS.

Um so my understanding is is that any water that gets discharged already has to comply with the MS4 permitting requirements.

Uh because you wouldn't be able to put it in stormwater drain without some type of treatment.

So um what would you be adding beyond what we already evaluate?

Uh so there's a considerable, I guess on the dark corners of Reddit now, like this is what we're hearing from most community groups is that whatever is coming out of these is contaminated with PFAS.

So we really wanted to look into that, like and provide what is true and what is not true around those rumors, and then what would be the tests that would help you test for those and then just recommend them as if you're doing this testing, you can be keeping a good uh eye on it.

So just more of a double check on what the standard best practices are, which you probably have already implemented, but just this is what they are, and this is what people are saying.

Okay.

Um and then with the backup generators, uh last week at uh public works and infrastructure we had uh EPD representatives that came and talked to us that there's only one or two monitoring stations in DeCab County, and they're both on the south side.

Um so when it comes to measuring the particulate matter that comes from the backup generators, are you guys suggesting or have you suggested to other clients the need for other monitoring stations, or uh how do you address that that what do we get for that basically?

What are you getting for that?

So um in general, uh what we're hearing from communities as um known polluters start to go in is um sorry, um uh so our friends down in South Georgia just reached an agreement with uh industrial plant, and part of it was around they were doing air monitoring, and so they had specific as part of their community benefits agreements or part of the permitting is that they needed to install additional monitors that were transparent.

So just pointing out like given what the what the expected outputs are, what a good monitor would be to put in nearby, because you're right, probably the amount of monitoring equipment that exists right now is insufficient, but these are the ones that we would recommend to comply with that.

Okay.

And then um a proposed location was near an interstate.

Um how do you differentiate particulate matter from semi-trucks and uh diesel uh generators that may be on site?

Uh great question.

That's why you do baselines, right?

You do baselines.

We'll find out.

Okay.

That's why you do constant monitoring.

Understood.

Okay.

And again, you would basically though get the data from either EPD or EPA, and then that's your baseline.

Um I guess the mitigation efforts uh the conversations we've had here at the Board of Commissioners, is is water that had already been treated by the um it's not potable water, but it's the water that would go back into the streams.

So I guess we would talk about uh how to handle things in a drought, but that would be something that would affect people first before it would affect uh data centers.

Um testing requirements for water, air, and noise.

Uh and again, that's just your idea of the community services agreement to to um have those things monitored.

But um I I feel like most community groups are in the trust but verify uh so like these are these are given what you're asking for and what would be good regulations, these would be the tests that you would want to run on the regular to make sure that they're in compliance with the standards you've set.

Okay, all right.

Um and then end of life planning, is that uh are you just getting what other communities have done, or do you come up with something else, or how do you how do you speak to that?

Um yeah, so this is uh they're not gonna be around forever, right?

And so uh um especially when we talk to like smaller towns around Georgia, and they're like, look at our abandoned mill that has gone nowhere after it being shuttered 25, 35 years ago.

Um so um a couple very creative towns around the U.S.

have started to put in bonds for end of life, as in when it closes, you don't just get a like a dried up husk of a shell.

Like how do you return the space to something else that's usable uh like a park or turn it into whatever it is that you want to do next?

How does the county have enough money, especially if like they go bankrupt?

Okay.

Um all right, thank you very much.

Appreciate it, and thank you, Madam Chair, for the time.

Thank you so much.

Um Commissioner Patrick.

I have just um wanted to additional questions myself because I um I heard you mentioned like other um places, other locations, and so have you um done this type of a report study?

I think I saw um some other municipalities, but have you done specifically what you're proposing to do here in DeCab?

Have you done that in other counties and particularly of this size?

Uh no, this was a unique request.

Um no other county has ever actually thought to see if their ordinance was actually following evidence-based best practices.

So bonus points to y'all for trying to do something new.

I appreciate that.

Um I don't have uh director Paxton, if you I don't have any other questions for her if she if you if yes, it's Dan.

And so um, Commissioner Chair, I think you had a couple of questions.

I know I need to charge more.

All right.

No, I think y'all covered it.

I mean, just to kind of reiterate what Dr.

Sharma pointed out, like so some of this has been already done, um, but there's some new things that have emerged and some concerns that we just need to verify.

And I think this would just add a another layer of confidence for anything that we might be approving in the next month or two that we kind of covered our bases, done an extra check, and make sure that as we move forward we have uh enough confidence that we feel like we put in place the right regulations that will have the best outcome for our residents.

Thanks.

Thank you so much.

And and Dr.

Asharmer, really quickly.

So are you considered or would you consider yourself an expert or expert on environmental impact?

Uh no.

Data centers.

I would consider myself at this point uh an expert on data centers.

So we're getting there on the environmental impacts.

I appreciate it.

Commissioner uh Patrick, I think you had something to do.

Uh just a follow-up question.

So again, we sort of had this conversation or portions of this conversation at public works last week.

Uh and I know Commissioner Terry is sort of pushing this notion of tying it to the data centers, but I thought that would probably be a good thing for the county just to have a baseline consideration, sort of countywide of particulate matter or noise uh concerns, because you know, on the top end, we've got a tank farm, uh, we've got spaghetti junction, the fourth worst interchange in America.

Um and and so you know, my question is is I'm sort of not inclined to go for on a data center basis, but more of a countywide approach.

Is that something you guys consider you do?

Would you be able to pull together the data that looks at all components of the county so that we can say as a baseline if you live in DeCab County, this is what this is how healthy it is.

It's a it's uh 9.8 on a 10 scale, um, and we can verify that.

Um yeah, so uh that's an interesting question.

Uh so last year uh for um Commissioner Terry, we did kind of pull together just a very high level um baseline.

What is the situation in DeCab and where there were air monitors and where there were water quality monitors and where there were not and how you guys could get complete coverage.

Um and then we looked around at like there's a few other enterprising counties that have created kind of like baseline portals so people can go online and be like, this is my air quality, right?

Things like that.

So we have looked at that for y'all.

Kind of pull together just a very high level um baseline what is the situation in DeCab um and where there were air monitors and where there were water quality monitors and where there were not and how you guys could get complete coverage um and then we looked around at like there's a few other enterprising counties that have created kind of like baseline portals so people can go online and be like this is my air quality right things like that so we have looked at that for y'all we proposed like how we could build one and stuff like that so if we are happy to do that for you that would be like a lot of fun for us and really a thing that we would we enjoy putting together because it's it's right in our wheelhouse of taking the data that's available and showing where the gaps in the data are but then also um what's missing from a lot of these data portals is any sort of interpretation for people right because they're just like there's this thing in there and people are like why do I care?

Um so then taking that and providing an explanation like it is concerning when levels go above this because this means that you can't go outside or this means that people are at higher risks for asthma which is bad for their kids and stuff like that or hey this area is doing really well or we don't know anything about this area and it would be good if we did know something about this area.

So that is right in our wheelhouse and we would we would love to work with you guys on a project like that.

Okay.

All right thank you much Commissioner Patrick I think we thank you um Dr.

Sharmer again for being here with us I appreciate you um answering our our questions with that I'm willing to entertain a motion if we had it come back in uh second meeting in April would that be too long because I know our first meeting we've got uh spring break the first full week of uh of April um sure so um the goal of doing this scan um is actually related more to the issuance of a land disturbance permit so to a certain extent there are um still a lot more steps to go before an LDP is issued okay um I think it would be good to have some preliminary review before we come back to the um uh the um the data center ordinance which I believe is isn't it in June May is when it's back on the agenda could they remind us when yes uh I think when it comes back that's what I think that was what she was doing uh depict Bragg thank you so much and congratulations on your on your new role congratulations thank you so much um the data center ordinance was back on your agenda on May 12th May 12th okay so we have a little time okay all right yeah we'd when and I let me make sure about this April and yeah we um April we do have um spring break and so but I'm willing to you know um make sure that we make time to try to you know um get Dr.

back in so we've got uh April 21st is a well Tuesday April 21st and then we've got the 28th the final meeting for the month if we had it back for the 21st would that would that work back to uh pecs for the 21st and then possible vote is yes and I see uh Channel it works from a PECS perspective I see her uh shaking her head yes so that works for us for a time and presentation standpoint to try to get from the 28th I'm sorry if can you thank you April 28th is a third Tuesday so there will be no 28th 28th is the yeah so we will have PECs in April on the 20th we will have on the 28th we have it on the 28th 28th sorry a lot of voices at the same time we have a BOC in April on the 14th and the 28th so we could have a PEX on the 14th since PECS follows BOC and it come for action in front of the full board on the 28th.

Okay.

I think that works yeah that's I'm good with that if that if the mover is good with that with that yeah okay all right so um motion to defer to the uh April 14th PECS meeting well the um April 28th um BOC meeting to stop in FEX on the 14th second all those in favor aye that works thank you um and so uh that is just to make sure that we are being clear since those um two items are in tandem related to an environment environmental impact um study one particularly prior to any land disturbance that will be for both agenda items one ending in 0244 the other ending in 0245 are we above board in illegal interim county attorneys we're good there all right just wanting to make sure all right and just continuing on with our agenda we have the next item 2025 0014

Study one, particularly prior to any land disturbance.

That will be for both agenda items, one ending in 0244, the other ending in 0245.

Are we above board in illegal interim county attorneys?

We're good there.

All right, just wanting to make sure.

All right.

And just continuing on with our agenda, we have the next item 2025-0015, all commission districts and ordinance to amend the code of DeCab County, Georgia, particularly Chapter 16 pertaining to the regulation of sound and for other purposes.

All right.

Motion to hold for two weeks.

Or actually, wouldn't that bring it back?

Let's see here.

March 7.

So Commissioner Terry, you find bringing it back March 6, March 26th for discussion.

And then possible vote.

Okay.

March 24th.

Yes.

Okay.

I think that's what was here.

March.

No, March 28.

What's the next IT for membership?

No.

No, sir.

I recognize a small font.

We have a BOC meeting on March 24th.

And to accommodate spring break, we are having a COW session on March 26.

Oh.

That's what that is outlining for you.

I will defer to your younger eyes.

14 is fine.

14.

Okay.

All right, that works.

And then we'll move on.

But you know, this is going to be the fifth time I've worked on a noise ordinance in my career.

And my one question, and this is to Commissioner Terry as well as to any staff that is listening.

You know, we have written in Norcross and Andoraville some phenomenal noise ordinances, but but if we don't have ways of enforcing it, we're sort of just moving words around on the page.

So my question is going to be when this comes back up, with this or with other with the existing code or what is being proposed, what's the enforcement strategy?

Because I know residents can get upset with saying we did something, but it what's the what's the upsize?

What what's better on this?

So that would be part of my questions for when we come back and discuss this.

I too.

I always say that you know the rules law is only good as the ability to enforce it.

So we need to figure out what those enforcement measures would be.

Okay.

Did we vote on that time frame?

Are we good on this item?

Okay.

All right.

We have have not.

Have not.

Oh.

Um motion to defer this to the April 14th BOC with a prior stop uh at uh PECS.

I think that's what we discussed.

Yep.

Okay.

First and second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

All right.

And I'll go ahead and take care of the one on the back on page four.

That's two zero two five-0017.

All commission districts, a resolution to create an electric landscape maintenance device rebate program to encourage switching from gas power landscape maintenance devices and for other lawful purposes.

Commissioner Theory.

Yes, and that that one's connected to this.

That one's deferred.

So it's the same.

Motion to defer to the April 14th BOC with a prior stop at PEX before then.

Alrighty.

Commissioner Terry.

All right.

Second, proper first and second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

All right.

And then we have two items that were on page three.

The first is ending in 1752.

The second ending in 1774.

Both of those two items were heard during our BOC regular meeting and voted on and approved through the Board of Commissioners.

So those had been disposed of.

The um top of page three is agenda item ending in 0458.

That's all commission districts authorizing the total of 9 million six um 67,525 of blocks PLOS funding for facility improvements to include roofing and HVAC system repairs and replacements for the CAP County physical and mental health facilities.

COLIS Thank you, Madam Chair.

On this item, and I'm gonna call up Mr.

Kingsbury.

Um what you have is a result of facility condition assessments, meetings with um Claritel and meetings with Department of Public Health to come up with what are the priority needs for our eight uh health facilities.

And as a result, um there's a total of about we're going to uh amend this and offer a substitute, a total of approximately $13.5 million worth of need.

Um and what we are proposing is taking the funds from the $14.5 million allocation in SPLOS 2 and get about the business of addressing these issues.

Um the work that has been done, uh I'm very proud of the work the team has done.

Um as you'll recall back in uh about this time last year, there was a facility contest facility condition assessment um uh ordered um and the results of the facility condition assessment identified key needs in these various facilities.

So we'll be providing you with a document that goes through each of the items that we're proposing.

Um if you have any questions, uh Mr.

Kingsbury, Mr.

Ford, um I think uh representative Claritel and Public Health are also in the audience.

Fantastic.

Well, um opportunity particularly as there's a substitute, and I asked earlier um for the breakdown as to uh now opposed to the nine million uh 13 million, um what that's gonna look like, and so I'll just look for you to disperse um that sheet and any additional information that we need.

So there's no action needed at this point.

We'll hold this in committee.

Um I do have a question.

Commissioner Patrick.

Um because this is such a big number, uh, even the nine million dollars.

Is this something that Mr.

Lavois Campbell's team could take a look at?

I think my understanding is that it may be in uh Mr.

Campbell's shop.

What you're gonna find these are a bunch of separate contracts, though you have the roofing, you have HVAC and and such.

Uh and these are on call contractors, but uh you know, it's across eight sites.

It's a in its end is across eight sites.

But you know, if Mr.

Campbell has it, that that's fine.

And you're holding it for the next couple weeks.

Hopefully, between now and then he's had an opportunity to review.

Okay.

If it's possible just to make sure he takes a look at it and gives us his uh his review as usual.

That that would be fantastic.

And Lord have mercy if we can get these um these numbers a little larger again.

Uh remind you guys I think that's a good thing.

I forgot that you're now.

You know, yes, you see the gray hairs, you guys are giving me a lot more.

See, a couple of weeks ago would have been fine, but there you go.

But I told you 50 is the new 30.

You know, let me borrow yours in order to see this, but no, I look forward to being able to look through it, ask any uh additional questions.

And so I appreciate you being here.

The last agenda item because I wanted to ensure that we exhaust it.

I mean, I'm sorry, Commissioner Patrick.

Did you have anything additional?

Could we get the exile or PDF file of this, which we can read on a screen and zoom in on?

Yeah.

Thank you.

And I'm sorry, Commissioner Patrick, that's what I meant when being able to read it.

Oh, okay.

Absolutely.

All right.

Um and the last agenda item is uh from Board of Commissioners District 2.

The agenda item ends in 0385, all commission districts, a resolution of the governing authority of the CAB County, Georgia, urging adoption of unhoused support service plan, establishing implementation expectations and accountability, and for all other lawful purposes.

This uh agenda item was sponsored by Commissioner Longspears, who um had to leave.

So we are going to defer this uh agenda item as well.

So with that, I'll accept a motion to defer this item.

Um motion to defer to the next PECS committee meeting.

All right.

Second, all those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen, and for hanging in there, you know, um with us.

We did Commissioner.

Do we need to take care of some appointments?

Yes, we did forget the point.

We've gone through so much, we did forget those um appointments, and I like to I I I thought we did though.

Did we vote on those?

I thought we did, yeah.

Because I thought I came back after um the status update from decide to cab.

The committee made a recommendation.

Yeah, okay.

All right.

No worries.

I'm acting like it's PWI.

I'm sorry, but very good.

Yes.

Uh would that accept uh uh a motion?

Uh motion to adjourn.

Well the he's second.

All those in favor.

I thank you again, ladies and gentlemen, for being here and staying in here with us at PECS.

Enjoy the rest of your day.