I serve alongside of Commissioner Robert Patrick from District One and also my colleague Commissioner Longspears from District 2 as well.

Presently we don't have any other commissioners joining us.

It is Commissioner Patrick and I holding down the fort on a Monday morning here.

Thank you all for adjusting your schedule and being willing to join this special call meeting today as the Board of Commissioners is going to take a little bit of a um uh a break, if you will.

Um we are making an adjustment to make sure that we have an opportunity to go through uh some pertinent items on the agenda so that it won't get backed up.

With that, uh Commissioner Patrick, if you've had an opportunity to review the minutes, I'll entertain a motion.

Uh yes, uh motion to approve 0992.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you so much.

We are gonna go along the uh Genta agenda, excuse me, as presented.

Again, that was agenda item 2026 0992.

And we are um just approved at minutes.

So next is the agenda item 2026-0948.

All commission districts, an update to 2024-2028 consolidated plan for the Department of Housing and Urban Development HUD programs, including the 2026 annual action plan, federally funded at no cost to the county.

Great morning.

Good morning.

We have Director Mitchell and several others uh joining us today.

Uh, this is gonna be very exciting.

All right, you go ahead and take it away.

Uh yes, good morning.

Uh Commissioners, thank you for allowing us to present.

Uh today is a day where we present to you uh our application to HUD.

It's uh mandatory each year to get the funding, and as you know, we're funded with uh federal funds, not county funds.

Uh this is a 2026 plan.

With me uh to make presentations is Browning Camp, who's our planning manager.

She's to my right, and also uh Tommy Phillips, who's to my left.

He's gonna cover the ESG component of the plan.

Uh, by way of background, last year this time we're nervous about being able to get funds from HUD.

We thought that the administration would not would cancel out block grant funding, but we happen to tell you that we got uh funding for this year and slight slightly greater than what we got last year.

So it's really exciting.

The only other thing which is important before I turn the mic over to Browan is that uh this is statutory.

So if we don't get the plan approved uh by the end of July, we don't get funds.

And that's a statutory requirement from HUD, indicating that it must get on their desk downtown Atlanta by the end of July.

Uh so with that, I'd like to uh migrate to having Braun take you through the plan.

I'll I'll interject when need be to cover various aspects.

So, Brawlen.

Good morning, Commissioners.

Um, as Alan mentioned, this is our annual update to our consolid five-year consolidated plan.

As he mentioned, we're required annually to submit a update to our five-year plan.

This is the 2026 um consolidated plan that covers our community development block grant, our home program, as well as our emergency shelter grant program.

Um and the mission statement for the DeCAP Community Development Department is to develop viable urban communities that principally benefit low moderate income persons.

And so, with all um our of our initiatives, that's what we keep first, along with our three basic goals, which are to provide decent housing, affordable decent housing, a suitable living environment, and economic opportunities.

Um, these are the programs that we manage through the HUD grants for community development.

Um I've already mentioned CDBG Home ESG.

Um, we have a neighborhood solutions grant, and we serve as the collaborative applicant for the continuum of care, although those funds don't come to us, but we administer that program for um the applicants.

Um as Alan mentioned, we um you'll see on the next slide how much our allocation amount is for this year.

But this is just an overview over the past five years.

We've received a decrease annually in HUD funds for a total um since 2020, we've received 621,000 less dollars over five years.

Um we received over 400,000 less in home and a little um over 62,000 in the ESG.

But we're pleased that this year we got a little slight increase over the last year.

And so our grand total for our HUD allocation is $7,095,000 and eleven dollars.

These are the projects that we're recommending for funding through this year's grant.

Um, under public facilities and improvement, um, first up is the new DeCab Atlanta Senior Center design and engineering project, and we're proposing that we put $500,000 toward the completion of that.

Um, the Bruce Street Historic Ruins Project, and we'll show some pictures of those later, as well as DeCab County Public Works street safety improvements, which would be made in some of the eligible neighborhoods.

Um annually, we have to pay back a loan that we've taken out a HUD Section 108 loan that we use to complete the East Central Senior Center, and that loan payment is $875,000 through 2030.

Um then we have here economic development.

We work with the Urban League of Greater of Atlanta, and they manage a small business micro loan program for us.

Here's a rendering of the proposed DeCab Atlanta Senior Center.

Um, and we're looking forward to working on that and and is in completing that project in the DeCab Atlanta community.

Um this is a current state of the DeCab, oh, I'm sorry, the Bruce Street Ruins.

And this is what we propose that they will look like.

These are um actual architecture renderings from um, and it will be an open-air historic architectural place where people can come and learn the history of the community, is very significant because this was the first school for African Americans in DeCab County.

So it'll be a very historic and worthwhile project when completed.

And next we have our public service activities.

We have nonprofit agencies and community groups that apply for funding.

This is very um competitive because only 15 percent of our grant can be used for public service activities.

So here we cover assistance to nonprofits that help with homeless initiatives.

We also provide funding through this section for our coordinated entry in case management for the COC.

We have agencies that provide emergency housing as well as transitional housing and case management for the homeless under our public service category.

Um and then these are some additional public service activities that we propose.

We have financial literacy with Catholic charities and new American Pathways, and they do a really good job of providing bilingual foreclosure prevention for some of our neighbors in DeCab County.

And we're mandated by HUD to have a fair housing component, and we use the Metro Fair Housing Services to work with us for that and to meet that mandate.

So you'll see them listed under the Fair Housing and Foreclosure Prevention.

And Atlanta Legal Aid Society is a very excellent partner with our department in assisting, particularly our seniors who are oftentimes victims of scams and foreclosure type incidents, and they work well with them.

And then we also, lastly, under public service have child and youth development programs.

Um the one youth voucher set aside program, is an internal program that we collaborate with the human service department to provide summer camp vouchers to income eligible families to attend summer camps during the summer.

Housing.

We have a little over a million dollars that we provide for housing activities, particularly our special purpose home repair program, and we provide home repairs in the area of critical care, such as plumbing, um, electrical roof, HVAC improvements for seniors and persons who are maybe disabled.

And we have funding set aside to also to implement that program for providing the funding for the staffing, and then we have demolition and blight, which is also an important program for DeCab County, where we've um demolished um countless number of homes over the past several years through the demolition and blight program.

And then last but not least under CDBG is our planning and program administration.

This is a cap of 20% of our entire budget.

It's most important, I think, to the three of us sitting here because this is how we are paid.

We um we don't receive general funds.

Our department is primarily funded through our planning and administration cap, and that's at 942,766.

Next, um I'm sorry if I um let me know if you have any questions.

I'm gonna move on to the home if you don't.

If if we could um just pause for um any quick questions, Commissioner Patrick.

Uh no questions, just uh noted the some of the community groups that you guys reach out to, including uh St.

Vincent DePaul and C Packs up in the district one.

So thank you for collaborating with that.

Sure.

I appreciate that.

And then um to that end, I do have some questions related to the same and just looking at what is identified as your slide 11 on page six, just um for understanding the COC coordinated entry case management.

That's Clarital.

Or what is um the CLC Alan you continuing of care number two?

That's for um we have our call center.

Okay, and that's internal um staffing for that.

Okay, fantastic.

All right, and then we have um 50 for outreach, in which case um also on page seven slide twelve.

Uh-huh.

That's I'm sorry, on page six, and then also on page sixteen, uh on page page nine, slide sixteen, there we go, because I'm seeing so many numbers, it's like I'm sorry.

Four page uh four numbers on one page, is um we have the Salvation Army Peach Crest, Salvation Army Metro, and that's at you know roughly 1750.

And then another like 90 for Salvation Army Red Shield and then Salvation Army Red Atlanta Temple.

Do we have a total as to how much um we're allocating for the Salvation Army?

So we're looking at the ESG chart, but we have Peach Tree Rich Shield is on the on the Salvation Army, that's for the shelter.

That's what it allocation for for the 45,000.

The other is the family shelter and the single shelter.

So we have two shelters that we support.

One for single man, single man women, the other ones for family.

Okay.

So because what I'm seeing here is looking at the ESC 26,500 for um salvation.

You're looking at another chart.

I'm combining them and just looking at you know the allocation based on the monies that we have coming in, knowing that federally our funds are a little bit more limited as to what they were looking at the um the amount that we are allocating specifically to the Salvation Army and others.

So I'm looking at them in channel right here.

So um I have 26,500, 1230,000, 26,500.

And then asking about are you asking about the total of the yes?

Uh we've been told them that one.

I mean, just knowing that we have some amazing projects and programs on our local level, one of which um great to see St.

Vincent DePaul is um getting an allocation.

I'm really excited about the work that they're gonna do with the day center.

Um also realizing that we don't have any um of their churches on the um on the South DeCab and um St.

Philip's New Life, who's also doing a day center, just realizing in terms of those allocations as well, and might want to consider that.

So these are renewals projects.

Yes.

So these are projects that we've been renewing for the shelters that we have at Salvation Army.

We don't have any other shelters that we could renew if you're asking about extended out to other locations.

Right.

So this is the draft recommendations going forward, correct?

Correct.

Yes, and so we have a day center presently now at New Life.

The day center is not the shelter though.

Okay.

So when people leave the day center, okay, they go into the shelter.

So what St.

Um Vincent DePaul, it's a actual it's a day center presently.

No, not St.

Vincent Nepal.

St.

Vincent DePaul, the funding is here is for case management.

Case management.

Okay.

So this you just said it was for a shelter.

So the St.

Vincent Department.

Salvation Army.

It's for the shelter.

Okay.

And just moving on and understanding about the you know allocation in terms of like St.

Vincent DePaul and others.

Correct.

Right.

And so with that, seeing there's an opportunity to be able to help out with some of the um the programs that we have going on in South Decab as well.

Correct.

With that, I saw St.

Vincent DePaul, but I hadn't seen any in any of the other churches that are offering services.

And I understand this is what we've been allocating in the past, but is there not an opportunity to do so with some of the other churches going forward?

So the opportunity on both ESG and CBG is open to the public.

They have to apply.

We just don't give it to them.

They have to apply to us.

That's fine.

So those churches have not applied.

Okay.

So there's not been any churches?

It's open, open application process.

These applications that we're looking at, presenting to you, people who will present it to us apply to the CAF county.

Fantastic.

So what do we do just for an understanding in the benefit of those in the public and other some churches that actually help throughout and utilizing their resources in order to provide services to the community?

What do we do to show that these monies are available?

What do we do to bring them in and make them a part of so every year what we do is in February we start sending out applications, start sending out notices in February and March, and we let it open application process for all the citizens in the CAP county.

So I can understand in February we send out applications and there's been no other churches in South DeCab who have applied for these monies.

So people have applied, more people apply than get award money.

So there's a process you have to go through in terms of minimum qualifications.

So they have to go through the qualification process first.

Right.

So let me further then.

They've applied.

So to answer my question, has there been any churches in South DeCab who have applied after February?

We didn't see any churches that applied.

No, we haven't.

And Commissioner, we do advertise in the paper.

Thank you.

We put it on the county website.

We send out notices.

We have a uh uh a mailing list that's very breath, and we send it out.

We have community groups and churches that um come to our techno, we have a host of technical assistance workshop where they can come and get additional information.

Okay.

Um keep in mind, these federal HUD funds are very regulated.

Right.

They're there's oftentimes a lot of the churches don't want to be constricted by the regulations.

And so um the and their requirements that you have to meet in order to be eligible to apply, what we found is that a lot of our nonprofits that we work with on an annual basis, they um they're com familiar with it, but we have um a many churches and nonprofit newer groups that come and we encourage them to meet and exchange information so that they with each other so that they can learn and and be able to apply for funding in the future.

Got it.

I'm just hard pressed to and you know that's conversations to have with some of our um our churches and some of our grassroots organizations that again that are doing the work and a lot of times utilizing their own resources to do it to the extent that there has not been any whatsoever in the numerous um amount that we have in SAFTACAB, then that's you know, a further conversation, and one of the things I wanted to understand as a a commissioner, so I can have the conversations um as well.

It's as hard um providing for, and since there are monies that are available, we of course want to make sure that they're available in large part to everyone as long as they're meeting those strict guidelines and criteria.

All right.

Well, that was that exhausts my question there.

Um do you have any other questions before we allow them to restart, Commissioner Patrick?

Uh no, ma'am.

All right.

Okay, thank you.

I'll uh move on and just um cover um briefly the home investment partnership program.

This is dedicated exclusively for affordable housing for low to moderate income persons, and we typically um use uh application process for loans to developers who develop affordable housing units, um, and we work with um Cotos um 15 percent of our allocation can be set aside for Cotos.

This is a sample of a current project that we're working on currently.

It's um a Mercy housing project, it's 67 affordable units, and um we provided them through our home program, a $2 million home loan, and there are 13 home units that will be made available through our um app through the home program.

And then I'll move on and let Tommy go through the emergency shelter um solutions grant.

So I think this is part of the question you had earlier.

Uh we have for the emergency solutions grant uh 407,761 dollars this year.

It increased a little bit.

Uh Brahman mentioned to you earlier, we only got additional $7,000 of the last two years in the emergency solutions grant.

The applications that we got, these were the individuals that submitted applications.

Uh Decatur Carpenter Ministries is one of the family shelters that we have in the cater.

Uh they submitted an application for their shelter and prevention services, and that grant $71,650.

Clifton Sanctuary Ministry is one of the few men's shelters that we have.

It's a single man shelter uh for men over 35.

Uh they've got a grant.

Cliff uh Rebecca's tent is a seasonal tent that we I mean seasonal shelter we have for women, it only opens up uh in the fall.

Uh they submitted an application.

The HMIS item you see here is for our homeless management information system.

That grant to maintain our HMIS system for tracking our homeless individuals.

Uh Salvation Army Peach Crest, that grant is for prevention to help people for assistance.

Um the Metro Command, that's for our Red Shield shelter for 123,000 downtown.

Uh Rapper Rehousing is also the assistance for people who are in the shelters seeking assistance to rehouse.

Salvation Army International, uh that is our uh facility for housing and assisting people for rental prevention.

And Zay Band Shelter, we have assistance for them for couples.

That's the only couple shelter that we have.

And then some assistance for street outreach for materials that we need for our street outreach team, and this grant only allows us 7.5 percent of admin.

That's the $30,000 that we have here for a total of $4761.

So that's for five shelters and uh three prevention programs and one rapid rehousing program for a total of $407,000 for assistance.

And again, these people were the ones who submit it.

We have more people submit applications in the way of ESG.

We generally have a request for a million dollars, but we only have $47,000 to allocate.

But we will always have more requests, but that's limited in the program.

Any questions?

Okay.

So in summary, we've got uh a schedule there on the key dates uh today, obviously the 29th.

Um we've had a series of public hearings.

Um and um we'll look forward to submiting about the deadline.

You can see that this August 1 uh to be able to submit our plan for 2026.

And um the answer comes back from HUD sometimes in the October, November, but it's statutory to get it into them delayed than the end of July to meet the uh August 1 date.

So our request is that you consider uh approving our plan uh as presented Commissioner Patrick.

Uh I do have a question, Madam Chair.

Um for the software package, the HMIS.

Um is that something unique to ESG or is that something that can be used with all of the statewide system that statewide for the state of Georgia?

Okay.

All our consumers of care uses that system.

Perfect, not exclusive to ESG.

That was my question.

If it's a unique product or something across the board.

So and getting funding, any federal funding is it's absolutely mandatory that you use HMIS as a vehicle to track and inner data regarding homeless individuals.

So all the agencies are mandated to do that.

So that's a good system.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

All right.

And then in terms of street outreach, that's roughly about $75,000 for our street outreach in total.

That's not the total amount.

That's what we've allocated between ESG and CDBG.

That won't cover the cost for street outreach.

Okay.

And what is the cost usually um per year for our street outreach?

Wow.

Okay.

Yeah, this is just a piece of that.

What we have to do is allocate because of the way our funding comes in.

We have to get money to support the programs.

Right.

Wherever we can.

So this is a piece of the puzzle to support street outreach because we're not funded for street outreach currently.

Thank you for that.

And I believe COO.

Well, if I may, Madam Chairman, and what came to mind when you were asking the question regarding the expenditures that are identified here in the housing plan are in the consolidated plan and recognizing that there are other funds, which is what Mr.

Phillips was just mentioning.

Maybe at a future PECS committee meeting, we can kind of show the broader spend because I believe there's programs, I know that there's programs that they have funded in the past that have gone to various uh churches and other organizations in South the Cap that aren't reflected here.

So we'd be happy to show here's how on an annual basis the money has been spent historically.

Yes, thank you so much.

I appreciate that.

Well, I don't have any other um questions there.

Uh one final question, Madam Chair.

Yes.

Um Zach, I guess this question is going to be for you.

Is there a way that uh District 1?

Well, district one currently enjoys uh an outreach person.

Is there a way that we can expand it so that each district has an outreach person?

Yeah, that so that'd be a conversation that I would have, not necessarily in the context of this funding, but and uh and and other funds.

Um I don't want to speak for the housing funds uh before we get there.

Um but yeah, it's something we take a look at and then see where you know it's like anything else.

We're we're can we plug in the right funding to make it happen?

Perfect.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, uh Commissioner Patrick.

And I believe that Commissioner Terry is on a secured line as well.

I know how sometimes we don't uh necessarily see each other's hands being raised, so to the extent he had any a question or anything this year, I just wanted for that opportunity as well.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Can you hear me okay?

We can.

Okay, great.

Thank you.

Um yes, just to um appreciate the opportunity, and I wanted just to second what uh Commissioner Patrick had asked about in terms of each district getting an outreach team uh either assigned or some sort of concentration just to support kind of ongoing you know efforts.

Um hopefully that's something we can talk about when we get to the housing um plan agenda section.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry.

With that, no no further questions.

Uh make a motion to approve 0948.

Second, all those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

The next agenda item is 2026-1023, and that is Commission Districts 134, 6 and 7 to declare 15 county-owned vacant properties surplus and transferred to the county's interests and parcels of real property from DeCab County.

Thank you so much.

We have a couple of quick um questions I do just to jump in.

I believe, Commissioner Patrick, you have mentioned that you didn't believe that there was any of those parcels were in District 1.

So we do need to uh make that modification and make sure that is corrected.

Uh there's a substitute agenda, uh there's a substitute agenda item.

We have a copy of it.

Uh there are no properties in district one, you're correct.

But the agenda item has been corrected to reflect the um districts that do have uh land bank properties, and we'll give that to you in a second.

Thank you.

Okay.

And while we're doing that, do we have all the addresses of these properties?

Yes, they are all on the slide.

They're on the flocks.

But I do have copies.

Are they in our areas a part of the agenda items?

Yes, they are.

Okay.

Yes.

All right.

So I'm just to um jump on in here.

Um they're all in three and four, all but one of the one, two, three, four, five, six.

Thirteen properties.

Twelve out of the thirteen properties are in super district six, and only one is in super district seven, and all of the properties are in district three or district four.

Okay.

All right, just wanting to um to note that just but go right ahead.

Okay.

So thank you for allowing us to attend today and reviewing our requests.

The CAP Regional Land Bank Authority is requesting that the county declare 13 county owned vacant parcels, surplus and transfer those to the CAP Regional Land Bank Authority.

The benefit of the transfer is to return these properties back to the tax digest.

Uh through our processes, our internal processes, we accelerate flight removal on these properties.

Uh our work promotes neighborhood stabilization uh cleanliness.

Uh we remove any health and safety issues that are currently on the property, and um these are all vacant lots, and we have we plan to um dispose of these properties through our application process to developers who will build new structures on these properties.

Uh this will advance economic development and uh be more efficient land before more efficient land reuse.

Uh in this list of parcels, like I mentioned, these are all vacant lots, and the intent is to um to have new structures erected on the properties uh through develop through developers.

And um we just ask that you declare them surplus and authorize the CEO to uh execute the next necessary documents to do as such.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Commissioner Patrick.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh fantastic program.

I think we were all at the there at the beginning and are happy to see this moving forward.

Just uh a general process question when it comes to um selling these properties or transferring them to a developer.

You guys have some type of a criteria for selection.

We have an application process.

Um right now we well, there are a couple of things going on.

We have a an application process uh for individual lots, but we're currently doing a request for qualified contractors where we're actually qualifying contractors.

We're a small organization and we will always be our goals uh for housing related dispositions is growing.

And so uh we don't have time to do individual procurements and solicitation for each lot.

So we're qualifying vendors uh as uh to accelerate.

So acceleration means I say, okay, on this lot, uh this type of structure is appropriate, and we want to uh reach out to our qualified vendors to see who might be interested in in building an affordable housing structure on the property.

There are other parcels that uh if they if they're interested parties who want to apply for them, then they can apply, and we uh will review the applications, create uh summary for our board of directors and the board of directors will decide who gets the property based on how the proposals align with our organizational goals.

Perfect.

So basically it sounds like you do have a review review process in advance.

So thank you very much.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much.

And is the um are the individuals who are part of the board of directors, are they listed on the website?

Yes, our updated.

It is updated.

We don't have all the pictures just yet.

We just took photographs.

However, uh we will then their names are present on the on the website.

All right.

And I appreciate it.

I'm gonna um act similar to what I have um asked in the past, and that I mean, I think the last time we've gone through this process, it was 14 of the 27 were in uh D3 alone, and at that point it been shared that um developers were specifically asking for properties in um in district three, and so um is there not um other areas and of the county and district that we are ensuring that we're addressing issues of blight as well.

We are um not singling out any particular area.

We are working with the real estate department in determining what is land bank eligible, and that is a process.

Uh there is a list of about 1,200 uh county-owned residential lots.

Some of them contain uh infrastructure assets, so they're not available for for land banking.

So uh the real estate department and I are kind of going through the list, and as that process plays out, we work with what's available and what's been determined as uh something that no other department will need, excuse me, going forward.

Excuse me, going forward.

So it's just a we're just working our way through the through the list of parcels.

No real method, no request.

Like developers aren't saying we want to be in district three, so we're not selecting district three based on the request from developers.

Okay.

We are we're just kind of strategically making our way through the list of county owned properties and um and they just we just so happen to have several in district three and four at this time.

No, I appreciate that, but actually um the last um time I asked that question you um chair that people were asking specifically for uh properties uh in district three because I asked that same question um and made note of it.

So um, but not suggesting necessarily singling out, but obviously being mindful because these are the questions that my constituents are gonna ask as well and want to understand.

Um, you know, particularly as we're talking about properties that have an infrastructure, so they're not land bank eligible.

Um, you know, they are noticing where we're having the infrastructures demolished, and so then it makes Hitland Bank um eligible at that point.

But again, I I have to ask the questions for the understanding and also to be able to communicate the same.

But I appreciate your responses.

Um uh COO, did you have anything else to add?

The only thing that I would add is you know, the ob the more obvious is this assist the housing affordability objectives, but it also reduced our cost for maintaining these properties.

So I would love to see more and more of these go and be put to productive use and come off of our liability list.

I appreciate that.

CO.

Yes, and want to make sure that we can um be able to in the constituents of the CAB can actually see the benefit realize of you know properties going back into the tax digest, um, particularly as their rehab, but wanting to ensure at least you know, I have a concern for the housing to be affordable and not just quote unquote affordable housing.

So how that um materialates from a you know development standpoint matters because I have a lot of seniors that you know and legacy residents that would like to be able to stay in um the community who have lived through a lot and want to continue to be there.

So uh to keep that into consideration, I think is it's it's great to be able to do.

With that, I I yield and um Commissioner Patrick.

Um yes, go ahead.

Go ahead.

I know Commissioner Terry's online if you want to thank you.

Commissioner Terry, did you have anything to add?

Uh no, Madam Chair, thank you.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate that.

Thank you for that reminder.

Uh motion to approve 1023, the substitute.

Second, the substitute.

Thank you.

All those in favor.

Thank you so much.

The next item is 2026-00.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Director Mitchell and Ms.

Churchill, thank you.

2026-080, Commission Districts 2, change order number one of contract number 1367 184 sports lighting solutions with related technology equipment and services, cooperative agreement for the use of parks and recs to obtain LED lighting seeking increase of contract funds and awarded to Musco Muscal Sports Lighting uh Inc.

Uh, I'm sorry, LC amount not to exceed 270,000 dollars.

Great morning, Director Bass.

All right, good morning, Madam Chair.

Sorry about that.

All right, good morning, Madam Chair.

Commissioner Patrick.

We have a few items here, so I'll try to go through.

Um we could just take them um one by one, it'd be great.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, thank you.

All right, so uh this one is this first item on 0800 is uh we're recommending approval for uh our sports lighting at um Kidderich Park um for softball fields one and two in the amount of two hundred and seventy thousand dollars.

Um and this is awarded to Musco Lighting for uh LED lights.

All righty.

I have no questions.

I don't either.

Commissioner Terry.

No questions, thank you.

Um make a motion to approve uh zero eight hundred.

Second, all those in favor?

Aye.

The next agenda item 2026-0856, Commission Districts 2 and 6, cooperative agreement playground, water play, aquatic equipment, site amenities, outdoor fitness related accessories, uh and services, source well contract 1016-lsi for use in parks and recs to replace the Fraser Row Park Playground.

Water play aquatic equipment site amenities, outdoor fitness related accessories, and services, source well contract 101625-LSI for use in parks and recs to replace the Fraser Row Park Playground.

Award to landscape structures, Inc.

an amount not to exceed 295,000 53360.

Yes, ma'am.

We are recommending approval for this item as well.

We are funding this through a source world contract.

There are funds coming from SPLOSS, Park Pride.

This is part of our Park Pride grant, and our friends of Fraser Row Park.

And this is to replace the playground at Fraser Road Park.

Right.

So we know how old when the last time that playground equipment was replaced.

Around 2012.

Okay, fantastic.

All right.

Commissioner Terry, do you have any questions or any um concerns?

No questions.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Commissioner Patrick.

I'm good.

All right.

Make a motion to approve 0856.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

The next agenda item 2026-090.

All commission districts, cooperative agreement, general services administration, multiple ward, GSA contract number, GS35 F-012 for you for use by Parks and Rec to obtain recreation management software awarded to Civic plus LLC and amount not to exceed 112,890,000 and one cent.

Yes, ma'am.

And uh this is a three-year agreement that we're recommending approval for.

This is to update our recreation software.

Um currently we use ActiveNet.

However, um we are looking to update that um platform for us um to be able to um look at ways to enhance our operations with our reservation management with our program registration and all of those components um that are part of parks and recreation.

Thank you so much.

Commissioner Patrick.

Uh thank you, madam chair.

Uh I am the world's worst golfer, but I still went to Mystery Valley and it's a beautiful facility.

Uh does that mean that you could I could log on reserve a whole-time tea time and then be there at that time?

Yes, sir.

Our goal is to make sure our partner sale is all linked together through uh actiness, so that's throughout our entire department.

So this could be a component of um golf.

We're looking to roll it in in phases.

Um we um recognize that golf impact is going to be um pretty different because we have food and beverage there.

We have um uh we also have the pro shop, so that is a component that does have the capability, but um, we'll roll it in in phases.

Gotcha.

Okay, thanks so much.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you so much.

Umerry.

No questions, thank you, madam chair.

Uh entertain a motion.

Uh motion to approve 0900.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

The next agenda item 2026-0901, all commission districts, eco addendum, green space record restoration cohort stewardship initiative removal training program, a mouthful.

Total donation is $33,884.

Okay.

All right, we are recommending approval um here as well to accept the um $33,000 um for the Eco Dendon program.

This is to help with training for um individuals who want to learn more about removing invasive species and uh overall restoration and tree care education for the department.

Thank you so much.

Do you have any questions, Commissioner Patrick?

No, I'm ready to go on this one.

Commissioner Terry.

No questions, thank you.

Thank you so much.

Ready to call for a motion.

All right, motion to approve 0901.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

It's a little awkward when it's just two of us here, right?

Thank you so much.

The next agenda item 2026-1012.

All commission districts to approve an agreement between how big is your dream foundation, Inc.

and the Cab County for 135,000 to conduct youth workshop workshops with music, art, diversity, and equity at Porter Sanford Performing Arts Center.

The program will take place from April 6, 2026 to December 31st, 2026.

And we're recommending approval of this as well.

Uh, this is a joint effort where we have several commissioners who have contributed to this particular program.

Um parks has a portion as well, so this is to approve our portion of this through the um how big is your dream foundation for programming throughout the year related to um youth workshops around arts, diversity, equity, um, music, education, and things of that nature.

Fantastic.

Yes, happy to support it being one of those supporters supporting commissioners, and actually they just had a performance um that took place on Friday at Porter Sanford.

Was not able to attend personally, but my uh staff attended in my stead sent back a bunch of videos.

I've been um you know watching the students and they teach them literally how to write song lyrics and perform certain um instruments, and it's just you know an amazing um program.

It's been in existence for 15 years.

Um, I believe JFLY, and we just actually gave them a proclamation district three, and the board of commissioners did, so they've been doing some amazing work um here in DeCab County.

So I'd like to see that partnership continue.

With that, do you have any questions, Commissioner?

All right, Commissioner Terry.

No questions, thank you.

Thank you.

I'll entertain a motion.

Uh motion to approve 1012.

Second.

All those in favor, thank you so much, Director Bass.

I think that is uh do you have one more?

Uh I think we had three that we didn't hear at the last PICS committee.

We can do we go through those now or no.

Oh, yeah, they're gonna be um to the previously heard on the next um BOC.

So yeah.

I wish I could have a um full you know, hour and a half or two hours.

Uh not right now, not with this special call out right now, but we will get to them, I assure you.

But thank you for that being diligent there.

All right.

The next for those following along, we're still on page two.

That's work source to cab.

Um agenda item 2026-1015.

All commission districts change order number two.

Contract number 1265085 workforce innovation and opportunity act, one-stop operator for the use um by work source to cab to obtain coordination and management of workforce services as required by WIOA seek increase in terms through September 28, 2026, awarded to the door LLC contract term increase only.

Uh good afternoon.

Good morning, Commissioner.

Uh I am assisting uh work source to Cav.

Okay.

Um so this is requesting a contract term stick uh through September 28th.

They are currently soliciting a potentially new vendor.

And so while that is in the final stages of evaluation, this is just to make sure that continuity of operations continue.

Thank you so much.

Do you have any questions?

Um, Commissioner Patrick.

No questions.

All right.

Commissioner Terry, any uh questions or anything to add?

No questions, thank you.

Thank you so much.

I'll entertain a motion.

Motion to approve 1015.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

All right.

The next agenda item is 2026, is under GIS 2026-0802, all commission district change order number one, contract 134-7014, geographic information systems, enterprise license agreement.

So source for the use by the department of GIS to obtain the use of proprietary software that allows the county the capacity to create publicly accessible GIS apps, dashboard maps, deploy software, and it is fully integrated to the other departmental workflows and business systems, seeking an increase in contract funds and term through November 13, 2029, awarded to Environmental Systems Research Institute, Inc.

Um, for an amount not to exceed $3,900,000.

Great afternoon, Director Uh Greer.

Great is the afternoon or something.

Are we still in the still in morning?

All right.

We're close.

Okay.

All right.

Good morning, Madam Chair and Commissioner Patrick and Commissioner Terry.

Uh, this is basically our three-year uh Ezri Enterprise License Renewal.

And uh GIS has grown exponentially within the county.

We currently have about 900 to a thousand users within the county right now.

And those the current contract, our licenses were capped, which meaning we had to procure a lot of licenses outside the uh contract, which costs a substantial amount more.

So this uh new agreement will a renewed agreement will allow us to have what they call flex licenses, allow us to add those licenses within the contract without going back to you know through procurement and paying that uh substantial cost on these licenses.

These this license, this enterprise agreement covers covers everything from license, maintenance, all of our uh uh server licenses, all of our desktop, mobile and field applications.

So we'll be able to deploy those licenses throughout the entire county.

So we're just asking for approval on this uh item.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it, Commissioner Patrick.

Um first I note that it's uh 3.9 million, which I guess means it's still going through Mr.

Campbell's uh audit review.

Yes.

Yeah, okay.

Yes, it is.

Um you explained this very well that this is only regarding the licenses, but I did want to throw another question at uh when I first got here, uh the county had not been updating its its maps and getting current data.

Uh is our data still current?

Do we is that a concern or we knew that at any point?

No, the the the uh maps are currently what what was happening was as we were updating the maps, they ward and flowing to the externally on a daily basis.

So now we have it where those once those maps are updated, it renews them every day.

Perfect.

So that was one of the issues that we resolved in the past.

Okay.

Well, um, happy to have you guys here having used GIS in the past, it's it's a powerful tool.

Uh final question.

Um so I know GIS does an economic um assessment of a particular area.

Does the software package that uh that we have with GIS cover that or is that something?

It does.

It does it does.

That's that's one of the uh I mean we have a plethora of uh different licenses.

Anything from from uh business analysis to uh economic analysis to uh one of the things that we're adding in this contract is the uh the software for reapportionment.

We know we're gonna have that coming up in the next three or four years.

So that's something we're gonna the last census uh period we had to buy it outside.

So we're rolling it into the uh license agreement this time, so we'll have that software already readily available.

So when it's time for reapportionment, we can go ahead and roll this stuff out.

Perfect.

Okay.

Um getting back to the economic development uh uh component.

Um so I could come to your office with a request to say this particular area has some different economic activities and wanted to talk with you about what are options that the area could support that software kind of goes up with that.

We we've actually and it's it's funny you asked that because we we worked on a program for the CEO's office on Memorial Drive Corridor.

Okay, and we did some analysis on the uh Memorial Drive Corridor.

And if you have some time, uh be willing to show it to you.

Uh absolutely, yeah.

I appreciate it very much.

Thank you.

Thank you much, Stacey.

Thank you, Chairman.

I would uh uh like to as well.

My home literally bases Memorial Drive.

So yes, we're glad to be able to see that.

Thank you so much.

Commissioner Terry, do you have any questions or comments?

No questions, thank you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you for uh all of the work, all of the effort uh put into this uh entertain a motion.

Uh I think we just hold this in committee.

The uh audit is due back on the 14th.

Okay.

So yes, we are gonna hold it until we get it back.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

The next agenda item under the office of the Cief Executive Office.

That's 2026-1043.

All commission districts are resolution approving the issuance of housing authority of the county of the CAP, Georgia Taxable Revenue Bonds, Housing Investment Bond Program Series 2026 and the aggregate principal and the amount not to exceed 25 million dollars for the purpose of funding the housing investment bond program and authorizing the execution of the delivery of the intergovernmental housing cooperation agreement between the CAP County and the Housing Authority of DeCab County.

All right.

Ferguson or Dr.

Ferguson.

Uh Longworth, thank you, uh, Madam Chair, for this opportunity.

Thank you, uh Commissioners Patrick and Terry as well.

And this item uh also the item following uh is a companion uh item uh in regards to our efforts to advance the I'm sorry, can you close the door um there?

Housing investment bond.

So the item that you uh have you know before you is related to our efforts to advance a housing investment bond here in DeCav County.

Uh essentially what we are marching towards is 155 million dollars in resources that we're going to use to deploy and create to create and deploy across the county in a variety of different programs to advance an open housing uh opportunity.

So the decisions both for this item uh as well as this companion item uh you know that we're seeking really is a recommendation to the Board of Commissioners to approve the intergovernmental agreement uh with the housing authority of DeCab County as well as uh approval of the initial uh issuance of bonds uh where we're seeking to issue up to 25 million dollars in housing investment bonds to support the launch of various programs.

And then also the programs themselves permission to initiate and launch seven of the nine programs that we're proposing.

So our approach with the housing investment bond and these proceeds is that we want to use them to create a variety of initiatives and to launch programs to really support housing opportunity throughout DeCab County.

And you know, in your packets, you have information on the various different programs.

But essentially, we're looking to advance uh you know these programs because the ecosystem, especially affordable and workforce housing ecosystem here in DeCab County, needs resources in order to grow and to expand and to continue to serve our most vulnerable uh residents.

So just a quick snapshot of the structure uh of the bond.

Uh the Cab County government essentially we're the sponsor of the program, so we're uh uh DeCab County we're responsible for the debt service on the bond issuance, but we're also responsible for strategy and oversight, uh ultimate oversight of the programs.

Uh the funding source, the funding mechanism you may recall is the affordable housing fund, which was uh voted on and approved by the Board of Commissioners last November, November 2025, uh, which is going to provide the means and support uh for us to fund this activity.

And the bond issuer and our primary program administrators, again, the housing authority of DeCab County.

Um, but this is you know how I like to describe a family affair uh here in DeCab County, and that we're going to involve our uh public agencies uh as sub program administrators to help us implement uh and bring operationality uh to these programs uh as well as uh some of our county departments.

So this slide essentially you know provides a snapshot of uh those program administrators and the various programs they would be responsible uh for and the uh implementation.

And when it's all said and done uh with 155 million dollars uh in investment, we seek to leverage that through you know private and other public and philanthropic resources into you know north of 1.2 billion dollars uh in investment you know for uh the county in regards to you know to housing, and really it would advance us uh significantly towards achieving our overall housing goal of 15,000 units by 2032.

This uh housing investment bond exercise will account for roughly about 75 percent of those units that are produced and created.

So, just a quick overview of uh some of the programs that we're launching.

We're uh excited to bring a new down payment assistance uh program uh to DeCab County.

This uh program would provide up to $20,000 in down payment assistance uh you know to those seeking to buy a home uh in DeCab County that are 100% of area median income or less.

Uh $15,000 for those prospective home buyers that are between $100 and $120 of area median income.

And then for the first time, we're launching an employee assisted housing initiative focused on home ownership where we're gonna provide $5,000 in down payment assistance to eligible uh county employees uh and staff.

And so we're really excited about that opportunity because not only are we encouraging those who serve DeCab County to also live and have a stakehold in DeCab County, it also benefits us from a recruitment and a retention standpoint uh as well.

Our DeCab Housing Catalyst program is our multifamily gap financing program.

Uh as you you know have experience uh you know in the marketplace, you understand that all affordable housing projects in some form or fashion usually have a funding gap in their capital stack.

And so this program is meant and intended to provide flexible funding uh to fill those gaps uh in exchange for long-term and deeper uh affordability levels to help move those projects that are currently at a standstill because of uh gaps in financing uh forward.

And we've socialized uh, I should mention we socialize a number of these programs, you know, with the community and our uh development investor uh you know friends out there who are working in affordable workforce housing space are very excited about us bringing gap financing to the market.

Our housing capacity uh building seed fund is a program to help us build you know operational capacity within uh DeCamp County, and under this program, we're looking at launching a number of different initiatives.

Um first and foremost is what we're called our DeCAP land to legacy initiative.

That's our faith-based development cohort, you know, providing you know, training, access to professional services, uh, mentoring, and a little bit of matchmaking so that we can work with our faith-based organizations within the Cannab County to activate their underlooked utilized uh property to bring them to productive use in the housing space.

Uh so again, another program the community is really looking forward to.

Uh combining with that, we also have uh program we're calling inside the cab, inside uh as an acronym for neighborhood scale incremental development uh education.

Again, another cohort uh that we're launching that is uh focused on those very nascent uh developers and real estate entrepreneurs as well as residents uh who may own uh property that they seek to activate uh towards housing uh and development.

Again, with both of those programs, the Land that Legacy Initiative as well as the inside the cab.

Not only do they get the introduction to the training and the professionals and understand the development process, we're combining that with uh pre-development uh grants so that they can turn those plans and uh and bring those visions into fruition as real life projects contributing to our housing solving our housing challenges here in DeCav County.

Uh and then also doing some capacity building uh partnership with our DeCanned uh County uh regional land bank authority.

Uh you just heard uh executive director Tamika Churchill uh discuss the disposition of properties uh here in DeCab County.

Well uh we want her to uh amp that activity up.

Uh so we want to add uh a shot of adrenaline to uh her work there to get her to appoint to get the the CAP uh land bank authority to a point where they're doing somewhere in a range of 50 to 70 dispositions uh of properties you know per year.

You heard her mention we've got a number of parcels uh that are on the county's books.

Um you heard COO Williams mention that we like to accelerate those dispositions because right now those properties are a cost uh to the county, and we want to bring them back to active uh productive use, not only so they can contribute towards the housing solution, but also so that they can become productive uh assets, if you will, and contributing uh to the county in a productive way.

And uh the other three remaining uh programmatic initiatives uh that we're going to launch uh is really a multifamily acquisition program.

We're gonna do that in partnership with the housing authority of uh DeCab County.

Uh our revived DeCab uh program, which is an initiative to address multifamily uh blight, and we've already had uh some discussions with commissioners around the nature of that program.

We've got an a lot of aging multifamily stock, and we want to uh take some initiatives uh to really target those properties that are really you know bringing down the quality of life uh in their surrounding neighborhoods and communities, and so we want to uh begin and advance those efforts in that space.

And then also uh, you know, last but definitely not least, uh serving our unhoused uh and an underhoused community through providing additional transitional housing and homelessness uh services programs.

And so we have some very exciting things that we're looking forward to in that uh particular space.

So uh next steps, you know, here uh you know, the presentation uh at PECS, but we're looking at advancing, uh looking forward to advancing to the Board of Commissioners uh for approval.

Um not sure on the exact date that we're going.

It's next Tuesday, all right.

So July 7th, we'll be Logan to take uh up these matters.

Uh and then we're off to the races and looking forward to an anticipated bond closing uh in August and getting as many of these programs up and running by the end of third quarter uh this year uh with program launch.

So with that again, you know, the request that's uh on the table before you is to seek your recommendation uh and approval to advance these to the board of commissioners uh for final approval.

The intergovernmental agreement and bond resolution uh to issue the first tranche of uh bonds uh as well as to launch the programs uh anticipated in the fall.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate that.

Sure.

Commissioner Patrick.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh Director Ferguson, thank you very much.

This is a lot of good work.

Um sort of a simple question for you on slide 11, the key initiatives within the framework.

Would your office put together sort of a a one-pager detailing these items?

Because I think this would be a good thing to go back, or each one of those three items would be a good thing to go back and talk with uh some of the constituents in district one, the churches, obviously, some of the cities, uh, and then the land banking capacity as well is a nice thing to talk about.

Yes, absolutely.

Um we had that information readily available for you.

I get it cleaned up so it's nice uh and presentable.

And we'll get down over to you, actually, all of the commissioners as soon as possible.

Okay.

Um the next question I've got for you is uh and let me see if I can find it here right quick.

Okay, on the resolution, um, and this is gonna be on page two.

Uh it looks like the third paragraph.

So I was under the impression that this this bond that we're talking about ultimately is for 155 million dollars.

Yes, correct.

Uh in this segment here talks about um a bond not to exceed 25 million dollars.

Yes.

Uh but there's a section here that talks about the interest rate shall not exceed 10 percent, and then there's another segment that says we will not pay more than uh 27 million dollars, 500,000 per year if I remember correctly.

Um can you explain that?

Sure.

I and probably is best for uh uh director Bob to take that question.

Well, I think but I'm assuming he's trying to give us enough bandwidth if you go to operate.

Yeah, there's I think the one the one number is speaking to the the par amount, what we actually um uh we'll use for the program, but the the 27 is talking about the cost of issuance and all those other things brought in.

So we'll re-look at that to make sure.

Okay.

But that's that's that's the difference.

I just want to make sure you weren't signing off on the idea that we take down 25 million dollar loan and then we're paying out 27 million dollars annually for a term.

So okay.

That was those were sort of my main questions.

Um I am generally supportive of everything that you guys have presented with this.

Um we have talked over the years extensively about the impact of homelessness within uh District 1, DeCap County as a whole, and um it is always easy to acknowledge there's a problem and say we gotta do something.

Uh but you guys have come to us, the CEO has come to us with uh here's the do something, and I truly appreciate that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much.

Commissioner Terry.

Yes, thank you, Madam Chair.

Um just wanted to, but uh yes, first of all, I'll just say I um really appreciate uh Dr.

Ferguson and all the input he's um taken from the commissioners and I've had an opportunity to get a lot of feedback as well.

So really appreciate um incorporating a lot of the ideas I think that we've all put forward.

Um I did want to ask um in regards to Commissioner Patrick's idea and really advocacy, which I support on expanding the street outreach teams.

So just to the extent that this plan you know has different you know funding mechanisms and funding pots, um, I'd like to you know lift up the idea of increasing the the funding for the street outreach team so that each district um has good coverage uh you know throughout the year.

Thank you.

Yeah, absolutely.

I I can you know give you a brief you know response to that.

So probably looking at um August or you know, if it slips maybe September time frame, there will be you know a request coming before the Board of Commissioners where we're gonna ask for certain you know programmatic uh allocations out of the affordable housing fund, and definitely when it comes to increasing the opportunity, or rather I should say providing additional funding so we can increase uh street outreach, that is one of the things, uh one of one of the items that we're being considered, and we'll most likely ask the board of commissioners to consider.

Okay, great.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry, and um Commissioner Patrick.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

Just a quick follow-up uh from what uh Commissioner Terry mentioned.

Um I know we do a point in time count in the winter.

Is it possible to include a point in time count?

Uh mid-summer, early fall, something like that, so that we can sort of keep up with uh more detailed understanding of who all and how many people we have as homeless folks within to CAP.

Yeah, I I definitely think we can you know incorporate you know some kind of periodic you know checks as as far as you know point in time, you know, the the annual point in time count, that's a requirement uh for you know the Department of Uh Housing and uh and Urban Development.

But we as a local jurisdiction, if we wanted to introduce a cadence of doing that, you know, periodically throughout the year is something that we can you know discuss and you know look at providing support for as well.

Uh in those discussions, if we could also include the notion of uh homeless folks that may be in uh extended state hotels, families with children, I think that would be a good component to be able to have an accurate picture of where we are today and then going forward, what's the what's the success that we can show to the Yeah, absolutely, and you bring up a great point in that in the official point in time uh uh count uh you know those residents who are living in and staying that state hotels are excluded from that official point in time count.

But we definitely can explore providing a more expansive uh you know point point PIT you know on a periodic basis.

I agree.

Thank you much.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much.

And so in terms of um our street outreach team, um, just to piggyback on some of the questions or points made related to that.

What type of oversight do we have and um you know, directives specifically do we have for this outreach team?

Well, oversight in terms of um they're managed by our community development uh department.

You know, that act typically you know rolls under uh director Alan Mitchell.

So you know, ultimately he has like operational jurisdiction um you know over that uh department.

Uh however, you know, Director Mitchell and I and actually key members of his staff, you know, we communicate frequently.

And so that's actually how the need for additional um resources to expand outreach, you know, kind of came to me through you know that you know communication.

And and they do need to help, you know, uh, you know, they serve all of the CAG County.

Um I really like the idea of having you know kind of you know designated personnel uh for uh each you know district, and that way, you know, the commissioners know as well as the communities know who's the person who serves uh you know their community.

Yeah, but we need the resources, you know, to do that.

And so and um at this point it's like 400 just from um what was just shared by Director Um Mitchell is 400,000 you know, with only roughly about 75,000 coming from a grant.

But yes, to for the commissioners to know who uh you know the designated uh individual individuals are is helpful because you know a lot of us that are there in the community, we're seeing the same people or you know, other people are sharing with us those same folks that they're seeing, and to be able to, you know, have more hands on health.

Um and the other part of the ask um in terms of sort of that oversight, just wanting to see how that manifests to individuals that ultimately end up with a home or residence.

And so um from a housing standpoint or what type of uh which of the programs have helped uh more individuals in certain districts versus the other, just to be able to get some um clearer understanding as to how things are actually um you know lining up in terms of the outreach and then the housing programs that we have and the impact that it's having, you know, directly in our districts in our communities.

Yes, absolutely.

And I'm in complete concert with that.

I think we need uh to have a more robust system and create uh collecting you know data information on the people that we serve, but also tracking the ultimate outcomes.

Right.

Uh because I think you know, at the end of the day, what we really want to have here in DeCav County is a system uh that invests in people and allows them the opportunity you know to transform their lives to get to a place of stability and then from place of stability to a place of thriving uh within our community and having a more robust system, you know, for that type of data collection will allow us to do that.

I absolutely agree.

Thank you so much.

Uh appreciate it with that.

If there are no other questions or concern, I entertain a motion.

Uh one final question, uh Chair.

Um on page, I guess uh slide number seven, um, you say what's in in the title, what's included in the 1.2 to 1.5 billion dollar total housing neighborhood investment.

Again, um the loan is for the 155 million.

How do we get to such a big number?

Great.

It's it's the the magic of real estate is uh being a real estate finance is leverage.

So if you think about it, when we in uh just conceptually, when we inject um gap financing into a project, that gap financing may amount to you know three percent to four percent of our overall capital stack.

Um but that three or four percent unlocks ninety-six percent of the additional funding.

So we commit you know, two and a half million dollars, and it ends up supporting a sixty million dollar you know, uh type of project.

And so that's how you get you know to those like large numbers, you know, per se.

Um and then it's the multiplier uh effect as well.

You know, our you know two to two and a half million dollars investment um you know supports you know a number of different residents.

So you know, average property size will be you know, probably somewhere between 180 to maybe 250 units.

And so the for lack of better description, the county is kind of getting banged for its buck.

A small investment, large number of units delivered, a large amount of capital investment, you know, that comes into the county, you know, to support housing.

So I'm more than happy I've got oodles of analyses for you know that I can share uh with the board of commissioners of how exactly the methodology we get to those numbers.

Um but yes, I I think those numbers are absolutely real.

And basically what you're saying is for every dollar that we put into this investment fund, it could return as much as 10?

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, it's probably the target is somewhere around you know 12 uh dollars.

Uh for every dollar invested, there's gonna be 12 dollars in additional capital that's gonna be uh attracted or preserved here in the in the county.

And again, that goes back to ultimately supporting the tax base, residential tax base for the county, which then reinforces people's ability to shop at different areas, purchase other products within the Camp County, which sort of reaffirms our economy, keeps on growing on the upward spile.

Yeah, absolutely.

Um, as part of doing these projects, you try to you know leverage them for the greatest opportunity to benefit for the county.

Uh so when you know uh developers come to us and they're seeking funding, some of the questions we're gonna ask is, okay, so who are you hiring?

And are you hiring you know the CAP County based businesses, you know, to be your contractors, your subcontractors, you know, on these projects.

And who are who are they hiring in terms of staff and employees and making sure that there's a connection with you know work source the cav and other construction training uh trade programs that serve the CAV residents trying to enter into the construction field uh and maintain so it creates kind of this virtuous circle of economic development when you invest in housing.

And that's why we do this.

Thank you, Director.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Terry.

Uh no questions, thank you.

All right.

Um I'll make a motion to approve agenda item 1043.

Second, all those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you so much.

The next uh agenda item page four, top of page four, twenty twenty-six-104 for all commission districts of resolution authorizing the initial implementation of the DeCab County Housing Investment Bond Program by approving the rec the creation and implementation of the multifamily acquisition fund, housing catalysts, multifamily gap financing program, the CAP home start down payment assistance program, the CAP brighter home owner-occupied rehabilitation program, revived the CAP multifamily blight redevelopment program, transitional the transitional housing and homelessness program, the housing capacity seed fund, the resolution further approves the initiation of affordable housing fund resources to support these initiatives authorizes delegated approval authority where applicable to the primary program administrator and designated subprograms for administrative uh administration and projection and project approvals consistent with adopted guidelines regarding the HIB initial programs and authorizes initial expenditures from the affordable housing fund to support operational capacity system, operation, system development, technical services, legal services, advisory services, wow, and homelessness services, necessary to answer, affordable housing, production, preservation, never heard stabilization and homelessness efforts through the CAB County.

I mouth bell.

And a lot of other questions.

We want it to be all in competition.

Right.

You know, can you can you tell?

And I'm taking notes as you know, I'm reading through my home.

We're doing okay.

Right ahead, uh Dr.

Ferguson.

So essentially uh that uh that resolution that long captioned uh that you shared with us uh are the programs you know that we're launching uh you know with support uh and the issuance of the housing investment bond, that gives us uh the permission to initiate and launch uh those programs.

And so um, you know, we're you know eager to get started.

We've uh held on for the programs, we held information sessions uh you know with the public uh because they're more public-facing uh engaging type of programs and we receive great feedback uh from those uh discussions that we've actually incorporated.

with support uh and the issuance of the housing investment bond that gives us uh the permission to initiate and launch uh those programs and so um you know we're you know eager to get started we've uh held on for the programs we held information sessions uh you know with the public uh because they're more public facing uh engaging type of programs and we receive great feedback uh from those uh discussions that we've actually incorporated uh and before we actually you know go forward to launch we'll still come back and we'll do another series of information sessions just to let uh you know the public know um what's happening the full parameters and when uh applications will be uh open uh you know for us to participate in those programs so um more than happy to answer any uh questions you know that may you may have but uh the uh first item 43 and 44 are companion items that go together all right thank you so much uh appreciated that um commissioner patrick uh thank you madam chair again director uh great work I intend to support this on the next Tuesday um similar to the last conversation we had uh lots of good information within this resolution could you break this down by program into like a one pager that we could easily pass out to our constituents absolutely uh or have on our websites because I do think there's a lot of uh great information in particular the um uh down payment assistant program that you're talking about and the eligibility requirements uh as well as the you know the ways to help um older residents uh whose houses are falling in the states of disrepair yes uh I think that's a great program incidentally that seems like it would be a program that could benefit our um storm uh water and sewer programs as in all of the infiltration of water that happens when it rains it leaks into the leaky pipes and then goes into our stormwater system excuse me our sewer system and then causes overflows this seems like a great way to sort of knock down that 50 percent estimate that we have that that uh the stormwater inflows are causing problems with our water and sewer system so uh um great way to sort of bring private sector private side to the table and incentivize them to want to improve their properties as well so thank you very much for that thank you madam chair thank you thank you so much commissioner terry uh no questions thank you all right um I just have uh a couple of them so uh when it comes to the sub program administrators and the administrators we're talking about folks that are outside um uh the CAB County staff or um just want to understand yeah so our subprogram administrators are uh identified as um the DeCAB County Regional Land Bank Authority decided the CAD development authority and the housing authority uh actually their affiliate the uh housing development corporation which is an affiliate of the housing authority at the CAB County uh so those are sub program uh administrators you know potentially a little bit further down the road uh there may be some things that we would launch through our community development uh department and there could be potentially be some initiatives on the table that we would leverage our Department of Human Services you know to advance especially on the homeless services side so those kind of organizations constitute what would be considered sub program administrators.

Got it thank you and in terms of legal services uh I thought that with these particular type of programs and this um being initiated through you know the the Cab County Governing Authority and you know um in conjunction with the bond and everything that's gonna help to fund this that we would utilize our legal services.

So this is authorizing and allowing for individual sub uh administrators to pay for legal counsel outside of what we have or let me understand a little bit more about that.

Really um legal services out outside of what we currently have you know here at the county for specific and kind of targeted uh initiatives so you know for example um you know with the the CAP regional land bank authority in order to advance a number of dispositions you know you've got to go through you know a judicial process and so they would need some additional capacity to pay for that you know legal support um and then when it comes to our efforts around um multifamily blight removal and and the um revive the cab uh program uh there are there's outside council that has you know bandwidth and expertise and those matters that we would like to tap into because they get very complicated uh especially if you're talking about redevelopment opportunities uh for affordable housing there are federal guidelines and restrictions uh that you need to adhere to and so we want to make sure that we're you know getting the best advice and direction and support uh as we advance those efforts so those are the the types of uh types of examples um we are we definitely go through for any of the things that we're directly you know responsible for we go through our uh county uh legal department to be engaged in that effort okay and um these are all of the programs that we have listed is this not a good place for road to home you didn't was gonna bring that up no actually your you yeah the road to home program safe space the cab program is actually in there uh as well we just yeah then call it out but no we're absolutely ready and we've got a framework and um great to have it in there you know it's a home uh you know operations

Okay.

And um these are all of the programs that we have listed.

Is this not a good place for road to home?

I didn't know I was gonna bring that up.

No, no, actually you're yeah, the road to home program, say space, the CAP program is actually in there uh as well.

We just yeah, then call it out.

But no, we're absolutely ready and we've got a framework and uh great to have it in there, you know, roads of home uh, you know, operation the cap safe space.

Yeah, exactly.

With uh with approval, uh we're gonna use decide the cab as our implementation agent.

Okay.

Um, you know, for that uh for a number of different reasons, and I can discuss you know those with the offline.

I'm with you.

Um but uh I can tell you just from socializing the program uh and the space, uh the response that we've received from you know practitioners and organizations they engage in the space, they say what you know a great idea and a novel concept.

And so they're looking forward to us launching it.

And I'm thinking it's gonna be one of those types of model programs that you could see popping up, you know, across the metro area uh as a great way to look at our unhoused vehicle residents and trying to provide them service and access.

And I have a young lady um who literally sends me a text message every week, you know, regarding it.

So even you know, um, and I could appreciate that aspect of it in terms of um, you know, the folks that are going to be providing the services, and I have in real time, you know, a young lady 27 years old to make sure she texts me say, don't forget about me.

Yeah, right, and reminds me to remind us.

So that's why I remind us.

Yeah.

One of the reasons.

So thank you so much for that.

I appreciate it with um no further questions um or um or comments.

I will entertain a motion.

Uh motion to approve 1044.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Thank you so much.

Um I'm gonna try to I see that we have um a number of folks from um public safety here, and I'm know that we have uh Chief Bulum here.

So please forgive me.

I'm gonna jump around um a little bit so I can um all of our time is important, but I do want to you know recognize we have several folks that have to get back on the streets and and doing other work here.

So I do want to skip to um the agenda item 2026-0550, presuming that's what they're here for.

That's on page five, and that's um district three initiative to adopt an ordinance to amend the code of DeCab County to address public safety drifting unauthorized camp and certain nuisance behaviors.

And so whomever would like to um you know come be a part of Ken or So just to reiterate, and I did realize that um, and we just checked with the clerk that uh the declaration was not attached to the agenda item.

So I don't know if there was a full opportunity um to be able to re realize oh, it was it was okay.

Okay.

It is attached.

Okay.

All right.

Um just wanting to make sure that the full veracity um was clear and understood.

And I think that, well, I know that during several times um we have made um clear in the discussion of this item as it's been in PECS for some time now, that this was not targeted at our homeless population per se to criminalize homelessness.

But it was very much and is very much to address certain behaviors of public safety concern.

Additionally, we have uh a recent ordinance that came down from the Georgia Assembly that requires now counties, municipalities to address as it 265 to 295, there we go.

295 that requires um to take a proactive um response versus a retroactive one, and just trying to um keep in accordance to our requirements, our responsibility, and if anything, support public safety, not criminalizing and certainly not saying um that homeless folks should just be arrested.

Um as a matter of fact, we made abundantly clear during our last meeting that similar to any ordinance of criminal liability, that our law enforcement have the capacity, as they do always to use their own discretion.

So there's nothing that we could obligate in terms of requiring anyway, anyone to be arrested, but also being very mindful of the fact that there could be an impact in population of the jails.

And also that comes with some of the other ordinances, not just this one, right?

That's opposed to you know talking through it in the capacity, it could have been and should have been as professionals that there were um you know the conversations, but I wanted to make sure, since I'm the author of it, that I was, you know, I share and made abundantly clear the purpose behind it so that we can address this and do what's best collectively as a DeCab County.

So thank you again for being here.

Good afternoon, ma'am.

And and thank you for having us and having the opportunity to kind of uh share feedback from an operational standpoint and an enforcement standpoint.

I did have the opportunity last week to look at the ordinance as it's written so far, and from a uh operational enforcement perspective, I think uh there's some um definitions that need to be further clarified uh from an enforcement perspective uh where the ordinance mentions an extended period of time that really does not uh give our officers the opportunity because one officer may see an extended period of time as you know an hour, another officer may think that it's multiple days.

Um so that was uh some of the clarity um and it I have to be able to give the officers clear direction on the enforcement.

Uh with that also I would I was interested to see what the solicitors um input would be as far as um prosecution on a lot of this and the way it's written so that it our officers do have clear direction.

Uh one of the other things was the ingress and egress.

Uh I would uh saw that you know that could be better defined what level of obstruction constitutes a violation that officers would be uh responsible for enforcing.

Is it full blockage, is it parcel blockage, uh is it a temporary obstruction?

Um of the other uh things I wanted to point out in many of these cases, um, if we're just dealing with public property, we do not have a lot of uh enforcement options.

However, with uh our private properties and our ingress and egress, there are uh statutes on the books that give us enforcement authority.

Uh so a little bit of uh clarity on uh what specifically we're we're we're trying to address would give us better direction from uh enforcement and operational standpoint.

Thank you for that.

I appreciate that.

Um, and so just so um the awareness of everyone before this was even introduced and to the commissioners as a whole, we actually did consult with and speak with uh with legal and to make sure that and one of the words, for instance, instead of um vagrancy, which was a part of it, it was changed to drifting, and there were certain tweaks that was recommended, which we adopted.

I'm just curious, was um there any conversations with legal to better understand or to share what some of those concerns were so that it could be fleshed out after you had opportunity to review it.

I have not spoken with legal yet.

Okay, all right.

Good afternoon.

Um from the sheriff's perspective, we were um concerned about clarity as well, but mostly about um the responsibility in regards to the jail and um the unintended consequences of that rise in population.

But um after reviewing and listening with um the chief, we just feel that um all relevant parties will assist one another in modifying how we deal with this, but those are the things that are always at the forefront of what we consider, how to fix the jail, and subsequently the community.

Right.

I I appreciate that.

Thank you.

So it just sounds like more communication, right?

Um and that's what we are here to do collectively, to work in tandem, to um not just be reactive but proactive and to the extent there needs to be some more legal clarity in and around verbiage that's legal, um, you know, and and that's it.

Um I don't think this is uh a difficult um I don't think this is difficult.

Um, and I would have again been great that um there would have been just you know some of those emails and communication um ahead of time to voice those concerns and we work through those things and present something that everyone feels comfortable with moving forward.

So um COL.

All right, would you and everyone give us a couple of weeks so that the chief, the solicitor and the county attorney can have a conversation and we bring it back at that point with whatever input come from that I appreciate that um having a conversation with the solicitor.

And then I also want to be very clear in that if this is the precedent when it comes to anything that may be potentially criminal in nature where it could potentially include some level of incarceration, no matter how minor that if this is the precedent in terms of any ordinance or any agenda item or any initiative that any commissioner is willing is wanting to put forth, then that's something that we do across the board and we're not picking and choosing.

And so um I have been a huge proponent of uh, especially when it comes to a number of uh other agenda items that we have a conversation with our judges, for instance, you know, particularly, I mean, we had one related to um animal enforcement and some of those challenges there.

And it was an ongoing ask if there had been you know those conversations, because if we expect that we're gonna put something forward and we want there to be a positive impact, that we understand the final arbiter of that enforcement, which would be the judiciary and not specifically, you know, law enforcement.

I mean, to be quite frank, or even um you know, us, of course.

So, but if this is what we're expecting, then this is what we do across the board if there's a potential of um any incarceration whatsoever, that we all have the conversation and dialogue and spend as much time necessary for everyone to feel uncomfortable.

And that that's it.

Yes, ma'am.

Well, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Is there uh Commissioner Terry?

Didn't want to forget you on the line here.

Do you have any questions or any um points that you would like to make?

Oh, so he's gone.

All right.

So just know uh Commissioner Terry isn't on.

All right.

Uh Commissioner Patrick.

Yeah, Madam Chair, thank you.

Uh, and thank you for law enforcement uh sheriff's office as well as uh uh police department for being here.

We appreciate your presence.

Um I think last year when you were the chair of uh PECS that you had brought in a discussion uh about the cost of uh different services that the county provides from incarceration at the jails uh to outreach programs.

If it was possible, if you could bring that back, it might be something that can help inform the conversation as to you know understanding the what the cost of of housing someone uh who may potentially be homeless versus the cost of other outreach programs.

Uh at the end of the day, it is harder to get a job if you've been in the sheriff's uh house uh than it is if you've not been there.

And so whatever ultimately we we want to do to make sure our residents are in the best position to really get a job for themselves at the end of the day and be self-sufficient.

Right.

And and I think that also it is, you know, the communication and understanding that this isn't to lock up the uh unhoused, quite the contrary, and to recognize that there are certain behaviors that individuals engage in that are a threat to public safety.

Um I have a number of constituents that reach out to me, and you know, um businesses that reach out where it's just an ongoing challenge and in certain areas is more pervasive than it is others.

And then we have some of the issues that have taken place in other um municipalities where unfortunately in cleanup efforts people have been harmed in an attempt to clean up or that public safety vehicles haven't been able to get to where they need to to provide um services to individual.

And so that's that's the focus.

It's not the criminalized the unhoused, is to put in the forefront that pub those public safety concerns that are real and realized by people every day.

So you know, again, similar to trespassing, right?

We have trespassing ordinance.

You can advise and you know, warn, and after you do that, you know, if people don't listen, like some people will keep moving.

But if people are intended to not listen, you know, is up to the officer's discretion, particularly if they're warned or indoor cited, you know, and they continuously do it to say, hey, you know, um, at this point, we are gonna escalate the the enforcement piece of it.

That and then that does carry over into um the jail.

But that's just with anything that is criminal, you know, in in nature.

And I just want us to be mindful as to how we're doing what we're doing here and and now and in the future.

I think that's a great idea, um, Commissioner Patrick, and we'll definitely take that into consideration.

Um I think two weeks on would be great um as a um as a deferral to you know further the conversations, make sure, you know, what tweaks that we are needing to have, you know, we can have that um collectively and then move things along.

Um I think in two weeks we are in the break.

Yes.

Uh perhaps uh first meeting I might say.

August 11.

That's fine.

Don't tap me what a good time, yeah.

I forgot about that for a second.

Yes, like I I had a little bit of a break and now I'm coming back ready to go, right?

Want to skip over our own break.

Um yes, that's fine.

Um August 11th, second.

All those in favor?

Thank you so much.

Thank you, gentlemen.

Thank you so much for being with us.

Yes, ma'am.

All right.

And we are going to um I I know that we are at a 15-minute window.

There's a number of agenda items that have been on for a while.

Um, Board of Commissioners Super District 6.

Is the next agenda item 2026-098 to all commission districts, a resolution urging the administration to implement the specific recommendations outlined in the the CAB County racial equity study as adopted in 2025.

COO.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

And so that's an item that we have done a number of the things that that are listed in the study.

But what we would love is the opportunity to get a 60-day disferral so we can comb through the actual study and provide an update with each of those things that we have taken upon ourselves to to do.

Um and then if there are any things that for whatever reason we don't intend to do, we would advise of that.

But um although we've been doing the work, we have not been, you know, there hasn't been a chart and checking off each thing.

So all right.

And I I'll tell you, um, as you know, the the commissioner bringing this forward, I was satisfied with um the belief that the administration is doing their level set best to implement and would provide us with an update.

So um, you know, to the extent this um urgence uh you know is not necessary.

We don't believe it is necessary.

Okay.

So then is there any specific reason why we want 60 days to determine whether this urgence is necessary um and have it just dragging on the agenda?

What we would do in 60 days is provide a status but w and whether or not this is here, we will provide that status in 60 days.

All right, because it would be great just to receive an update and maybe be able to speak to it in in PECS, the things that are happening without having to go through um you know all of those specific details.

So if amenable um the 11th would be, you know, would be great to bring it back and just give us an update.

And then we can determine as a committee whether we even you know what we do with this.

Okay, we'll have an update on the 11th.

Thank you.

Commissioner Patrick.

I'm good.

All right, Commissioner Terry.

Uh this okay.

All righty.

Uh if Commissioner Terry is not with us, maybe we just defer his items, and uh I don't know if there would be time to get into the other pressing items.

All right.

So I'm gonna tell you my apprehensiveness in doing that.

Is that um similar to our last um PECS meeting, um it was called for those items to be um deferred and to deal with them later, and we never got an opportunity to deal with them.

They have been on our agenda for some time now, and I know you got a time limitation, so I was willing to go through as many of them as we could.

But um they have been on our agenda for some time, and then um Commissioner Terry has been vocal in terms of these consistently being deferred.

Um, and so I'd much rather them be addressed.

Um, and he's not on and was on, opposed to just you know, we saying, you know, we're gonna defer them.

And to be quite frank, we'd seem like we're we're not addressing them when we are here ready to address them.

Um he he's off and you know, was not aware that he had jumped off initially ahead of these these items.

So I'd be great if we could take as many as we feel comfortable and at least get them out of committee.

That way there's some progression, you know, in them, or we're um if there's a motion to withdraw or deny or whatever that looks like that we move these from sitting in this committee with the caveat that we're not addressing them.

COO.

I would just say my my thoughts on these items, uh, and I know there's been a lot of conversation.

Um but I would like the opportunity on 15 and 17 for the uh the chief sustainability officer just to to weigh in.

Sure.

Um we we have not had the benefit of her perspective.

So I would like to give her that opportunity.

All right.

Then is there any call out the and we could probably brief uh just quickly deal with um 0341 if I sound that out.

All right, and that will be uh then we'll deal with the other two and we'll be done in hitting at 1230.

All right, that's 2026-0341 on commission districts, a resolution of the Cab County Board of Commissioners requesting the administration and planning department to update the recommended substitute for the text amendment 2025-0972 regarding data center regulations.

Yeah, but I I guess maybe a question that yeah, I think maybe a question for for legal is is where where does this stand in in vote of the 70 denial?

Right.

Um thinking, and I'm not sure if there's something else, but you know, I think she's prepared to speak to it.

I was I was wondering the same thing.

Yeah, it's my it's my thinking, uh, Madam Chair is that the item is although it's here, it's really not here because the board has pulled it out of committee and taking a vote.

That's what my understanding.

But I have no law degree.

You know, I I was thinking that I just wanted to make sure that as I sounded it out, I was being you know clear and that we are going through the agenda as it was publicized.

So I mean I think the board denied the planning's recommended ordinance that's passed Tuesday.

Fantastic.

Uh resolutions for substitute of that order.

If that's the case, factually accurate then, um, yes, I think we did the resolution would be rendered moved okay.

All right.

Fantastic.

So that means you can come up my out of my committee.

Not the judge.

Okay.

Just wanted to be certain as we're disposing of things properly.

Fantastic.

Then we will move on.

The next agenda item 2026-0864 for those following along, page four, commission districts three and six, change order number two to contract two zero zero zero zero one one full renovations at NH Scott Park, multi-year um for use by parks and recs to obtain renovation services to the pool site, seeking increased contract terms through December 31st, 2026 and ratifying previous term increase awarded to Summit Properties and Development Company LC contract term increase only.

I told you Director Bass where he's gonna come back to your items.

There you go.

Yes.

All right, appreciate you.

Uh good afternoon again.

Uh this is uh to extend uh the contract with summit um I'm sorry, actually.

I'm on the wrong item.

That was right.

Yeah, that's right.

Okay, yep, to extend our contract with some uh in order to uh address some of the additional items that we need to uh um renovate at NHAP pool.

Um we did everything we could to get the pool open for the this pool season, but there are some touch-up things that we need to address.

So this item specifically is to um extend that contract through the end of the year.

And you guys did an amazing job, you know.

Um the community thoroughly enjoyed um the opening and you know had a great time and it was no short of amazing.

It was you know, due through to all of the work you guys have put in.

Um yes, did hear there's just a couple of punch items that need to be taken care of.

So thank you so much for staying on top of those.

Um, do you have any questions, Commissioner Patrick?

No questions.

Seeing no questions, I will entertain a motion.

Uh motion to approve 0864.

Second, all those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

The next 2026 0843, Commission Districts 345, 6, and 7.

Court construction and maintenance cooperative agreement for use by the Department of Recs Parks and Rec, excuse me, to obtain as needed court construction and maintenance seeking to increase in contract funds and turn through June 12, 2027, awarded to signature tenants courts in amount not to exceed 137,600.

Yes.

All right.

And we are recommending approval for this change order as well.

Initially, when we um brought this um agreement forward, it was a uh resurfacing, however, um the review.

Uh we uh determined that it is time for a complete renovation of the L'10 courts at um Bransby Park.

So uh we are recommending approval for this item.

You said which court I'm sorry.

Is it uh Bransby Park?

Um the uh embark part.

Oh what I'm seeing.

All right, and so I see we have the other districts um listed as well.

And so do we have what we're gonna do for those other districts, the tennis courts in those districts as well, because embark is this one here.

This change order specifically is for embark embark, but we do have um renovations coming at Doddy Bridges as well.

Okay, all right, fantastic.

Commissioner Patrick.

No questions.

All right, I don't either motion to approve uh zero eight four three.

Second, all those in favor?

Aye.

Thank you so much.

See 1226.

We're not not doing bad.

And just to be clear, what legal um 0341?

We can remove from the agenda.

There's no other further action for us to take out of committee.

Okay.

So uh then we would need a motion to withdraw then is what's if if I had to bet there's gonna be a conversation about this on Tuesday, so let's just let it go without a recommendation.

No recommendation out of committee.

That is fine.

Then that will be uh the recommendation is no recommendation at it.

Top of page five, one more cards item zero.

Yes, I do see that.

2026-0844.

All commission districts change order, contract number two zero, zero zero three eight two zero zero zero three nine two zero zero zero four zero and two zero zero zero four five, change order number two, contract number two zero zero zero four one, and change order number three to contract number two zero zero zero three seven architecture engineering services for parks and rec multi-year for the use of um by parks and rec to obtain on-call architectural and engineering services, design services seeking increase in contract funds awarded to American Engineers Inc.

Columbia Engineering and Services, Foresight Group, Jericho Design, LC, Kimley Horn, NWSP USA Environmental Infrastructure, Total Amount not to exceed 3 million, 297, 250,000.

Is this come out of okay?

Audit it has.

Um, just for clarification, I think we spoke earlier.

I mentioned that it did, but now further understanding.

Um, I believe it still does need to go through uh based on recommendation from this body.

Okay.

So all right, fantastic.

Because uh I know that we have a number of on-call um, you know, planners and engineers and folks.

So I was gonna you know ask some questions there, but it sounds like we have some more work to do before we address it, which is fine.

Um with that, I will entertain a motion to adjourn.

Uh uh, I'm sorry, uh COO.

0015 and 17.

Uh we're going to have the um sustainability chief take a look at those if we can have a 60 day.

Yes, so no recommendation out of those, um uh out of committee for those just to give them an opportunity to come before us and and to do that, just trying to you know entertain that request.

Okay, 60 day deferral.

Yes, you're calling I prefer yeah, let's let's just do that at the at the BLC meeting.

This and so we'll take nothing out of committee.

It doesn't seem like we're um moving that needle um along anyway.

So we'll we'll do it as a board of commissioners as a whole.

It'd be great.

Now, Commissioner Patrick, but I'm still in your 1230.

Motion to adjourn.

Second, all those in favor, aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.