Member Durhal's absence is excused.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson present.

Council Pro Tim, we have quorum.

Thank you.

We have a quorum, which means we're back in session.

Would now like to call back to order the 1105 public hearing.

Will the parties who are participating please cue up?

The 1105 excuse me public hearing is regarding an establishment of an industrial facilities exemption certificate on behalf of the old St.

Jean Properties LLC in the area of 250.

Excuse me, 251.

Two five, excuse me, five two one, St.

Love St.

Jean, Detroit, Michigan, in accordance with public act 198 of 1974.

With the parties who are participating, introduce yourselves when you see yourself on the screen.

Justice Cook Housing and Revitalization Department.

Good afternoon now.

Brian Hertien with Christian Hertien, owners of Old St.

Jean Properties.

Thank you so much.

Mr.

Cook.

Thank you.

To the chair, all of St.

Jean Properties LLC is requesting council approval for the establishment of industrial development certificate in the area 5210 St.

Jean.

The petitioner and DGC is present to answer any additional questions.

Thank you.

You may proceed.

And uh to the chair, may I share my screen, please, sir.

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh so today we have come before this honorable body to request the establishment of an industrial certificate for the uh industrial rehabilitation certificate for the 521 Old St.

Jean project being led by the development team of Old St.

Jean Properties LLC.

521 Old St.

Jean consists of a 2.49 million dollar rehabilitation of a vacant manufacturing facility and to over 37,000 square feet of manufacturing office and storage space.

The developer will utilize the facility as their headquarters to manufacture a components for panelized home construction while also leasing office space to the biotech company Ecovia Renewables, which is relocating their headquarters from Ann Arbor to Detroit.

This abatement provides a reduction on the future increase in property taxes as a result of significant improvements to industrial properties, including new construction or renovations.

If you turn your attention to year zero, you'll see a dark green bar representing the amount of taxes currently paid on the property.

This works out to be approximately $28,000 per year.

Moving on to year one, you'll see that this bar increases and that represents the total amount of taxes that we project based on the investment of $2.49 million that will be made into this project.

Upon completion of the project, the assessor will reassess the property, and as a result of the improvements, the property's value will increase.

Assuming that they received the full term of the abatement in year 13, after the abatement has expired, they will be responsible for the entire amount of taxes, which is approximately $56,000 that first year.

The developer before you today is requesting a certificate.

Based on this review, we recommend the approval of the certificate for 12 years on the project.

That concludes my presentation, Mr.

Chair, and I will now turn it over to the developer to offer some more detail regarding this development.

Thank you all.

Thank you.

My business partner, Christopher and I are architects, and we are venturing into housing manufacturing for really do a lot of housing in the city of Detroit as we concentrated our career and my career of over 30 years being a resident and architect in the city of Detroit.

So we're uh our small business, which is you know, beginning uh hiring uh construction trades and creating uh you know house designs and/or multi-family housing projects uh so that we can then manufacture these on-site and deliver them to on-site in the city uh for to actually you know reduce construction costs.

We are uh met, you know, every day with uh our either our clients or even our projects ourselves that uh you know the cost of construction is too high.

So we're trying to do something that is more innovative in the housing industry.

Uh and so this facility is uh an employment center.

Uh we hope to partner with nonprofits to do affordable housing, and of course, to do our own uh architect design build projects within the city and beginning with properties that we do own correct uh currently and then continue on with uh other other developers and other nonprofits to do this project, this business.

Um the facility existing facilities uh were uh we purchased out of foreclosure.

Uh the properties have not had not been maintained for years and years and were tool and die um shops essentially, and so we've had to do some abatement work, and you know, we're beginning, you know, just to stabilize the buildings and really move forward and and hopefully have a very robust 2026.

Um I'm happy to answer any other questions uh and anything that you would like to know.

Um just video feel free.

Um thank you.

Thank you.

Please keep chatter to a minimum.

It is 1230.

Good afternoon.

Um you have before you old St.

Jean Properties LLC working with Christian Hurtian Architects and Christian Hurtin Construction for this development.

These firms have developed market rate and affordable residential projects in Detroit for the last five years.

This project for the rehabilitation of a 2022 square foot industrial building located at 521 O St.

Jean into a housing component for manufacturing facility to support their housing development.

This will allow CHR these firms to cut material costs and avoid supply chain issues.

Additionally, the 15,000 square foot property, adjacent property at 609 O St.

Jane will be converted into office space for the architectural firm and condustri and and construction firms and will lease out additional space to other firms.

Um this projects will require major rehabilitation and um replacement of plumbing and HVEC operating systems, windows, roofing, doors, fencing, and other external walls and other and interior um reconfiguration.

The estimated total capital investment for this project is 2.5 million.

The project is estimated to create 12 tenant jobs and 10 temporary construction jobs.

The total value of this 12-year um abatement or this total year certificates is estimated at two 276,919.

The project is estimated to provide the city of Detroit with a gross benefit of 204,000 and a total gross benefit of 228,000 for all impacted jurisdictions combined over the 12-year of the tax abatement.

Thank you.

That concludes my presentation.

Thank you.

All right, Member Johnson, we've seen this presentation before.

We're here now for the certificate phase.

Any questions, comments, concerns?

The floor is yours, ma'am.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Good afternoon.

Um, thank you for the presentation.

This is something that I am really, really interested in.

Um, I know previously when you came before us, I don't believe you had identified or solidified the details on the materials, um, the type of um product you would be using for development projects.

Um have you identified how, like if you're using stick build, if you're using metal, um the type of materials, and if you can also share if you anticipate that this will improve quality of development projects or help to reduce costs.

Um can you just share a little bit about that?

Of course.

Um we are doing our um manufacturing of housing components in a very traditional manner.

Wood studs, wood framing, um, everything that is very commonly commonly known and used already.

Yeah, because in a way that's where the education of the workforce in Detroit has been, you know, uh building up.

Uh and it's easier to, it's an easier uh, you know, entry level positions for uh employing people, as well as the uh falling within the uh building department inspection services, which would be very traditional as well.

So we're not reinventing anything that would encumber, you know, the city administration with uh a typical house build.

But what we're trying to do is overlap, you know, when the uh foundations and and site stuff happens to uh have the house and/or buildings you know made in the factory to be installed in a much shorter time period um and have all the finishes and or um materials low uh stored on site so there for no supply chain issues to then be you know combined in a much shorter time period for uh building of a of a house in a very traditional manner.

Um I I I believe I forgot um another part of your question.

I um I think you kind of just answered it, which um makes me believe that it will help to improve quality and also possibly reduce costs.

It this is all part of reducing costs because you know money costs a lot, and to reduce the time frame, you know, then reduces you know our our uh interest on construction loans and or and and really in like shortening the time span so our you know the the worker trades aren't aren't as expensive either.

We're also trying to um bring people to the facility, um businesses as well.

You know, we we are renting part of the facility, but to have like services be part of our of our campus, I'll say, so that uh we have more uh readily accessible uh tradespeople part of it.

And all this is you know, quality is uh paramount.

Uh we are architects, you know, to begin with, and so we our level of quality is um uh more particular, I'll say, than a typical builder.

And we tend to pride ourselves on making things um that are more energy efficient, you know, more sustainable, um, you know, things that we learn about and have to learn about to maintain our architects licenses to then you know provide that for the designs and implementation of the houses.

All right, sounds great.

Um and can you just briefly share a timeline when you anticipate having the facility online?

Uh we are heading into permits this month and then hopefully have everything operational by early uh 2026 so that we can break ground on projects that we have going through the city um, you know, um site planning review is approved, or but we have a board of zoning hearing this month so that um two projects in North Corstown can break ground uh early next year, as well as some other uh housing um renovation addition projects, and then uh really open it up to uh you know a more uh I guess uh formatted approach of uh utilizing the facility fully.

Right.

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Member Johnson.

My questions have been addressed.

We shall now go to public comment.

If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak on this item that is line item eight, the 1105 public hearing, please raise your hand now.

If you would like to speak on the 1105 public hearing that is in line item eight, please raise your hand now, going once, going twice, going three times.

Collection of public comments have now concluded.

Ms.

Ramsey, how many callers do we have?

Who do we have first?

We have four callers online.

Inclusionary planning matters is up first.

All right, caller.

The floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Good.

Oh, afternoon.

May I be heard?

Yes.

Um, well, duly no, just want to say, do you noted the last gentleman didn't answer my question about the cost of the penthouses, like she doesn't know.

So thank you, Member Johnson, for asking for that information.

And please do uh uh uh share that information with us.

Um just uh curious uh for the forchin associates.

Uh were you one of the people that has something to do with North End landing?

That's so like resident disrespectful to the people nearby uh development that is made people so upset because it was secretly planned.

Were you are you one of those uh uh uh uh people working with those disrespectful developers?

All right, thank you so much.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is owner Papa.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item eight.

Uh yes, thank you.

And through the chair.

Um I think he answered the question that I had is is this facility going to uh be utilized for new construction and all repairs or already constructed buildings, or is it just for new construction?

And he has a variety of businesses that want to be located in that facility, one coming from Ann Arbor.

He says it's a storage uh place.

I would like to know what will he store there.

And uh he also mentioned a biotech company.

I'd like to know what their business is as a biotech company, and will there be any hazardous waste stored there, or are there any hazardous materials that will go into uh building um these additions to make uh building uh more uh affordable and easier?

Thank you.

Okay, question next caller, please.

Our next caller is Tahira Ahmad.

Caller, the floor is yours.

You have a minute regarding line item eight.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I have a question about the people that are gonna be employed for this uh for this venture here.

Are they uh are they majority black people that are gonna be employed?

We have, as you may have heard, uh a poverty problem that uh that we're dealing with now.

We want people to have jobs.

Uh and and another question uh are you um able to employ returning citizens?

Um would you be able be interested in uh emphasizing hiring returning citizens?

And I'm in I'm also uh wondering about the uh contracts uh that you have with these other businesses in here.

And so if something happens in your building, um, would you still be able to afford the abatement?

And what would what would happen if, say, like there was a natural disaster before the abatements kick in?

Well, how would you handle that?

Thank you.

All right.

Next caller, please.

Our last caller is Miss Marguerite Scarlet Maddox.

Marie Scarlett Maddox, the floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Um no.

Okay, thank you, Ms.

Manns.

All right, we're gonna give uh the presenters an opportunity to uh respond to the questions that have been provided.

Uh sure.

Um, and I I did want to just mention that I did uh present the project to the uh Jefferson East Inc.

community through one of their uh um monthly or quarterly uh general presentations that was in June.

Um to the first uh commenter.

Um to the first uh comment or um I don't know what the North End landing is and no, I was not participating in anything like that.

So I'm that's all I can say.

Um we are going to focus primarily on new construction projects.

Uh we will be doing some uh uh rehabilitation because a lot of times there's additions with rehabs, and I'm an historic architect.

I've done many rehabs uh throughout my career and and with Chris.

I know we're doing some right now, so that will continue.

Uh we are primarily our storage materials are really construction materials and house materials.

You know, we're we would store uh plumbing fixtures and you know piping, as well as uh appliances perhaps, uh, and anything that is part of the of what we would be responsible for in to inform the the the project flooring trim um anything.

Uh the biotech company uh is not a hazardous material uh company, so there would be no um further hazardous uh waste products as part of their company.

So uh we are very fortunate with that in terms of what they're they are about.

Um yes, we will we hopefully will be doing affordable housing because that's kind of the purpose of what we're doing, and we will be contributing to you know making the those uh residences better uh in terms of quality and energy efficiency, etc.

Um to the the third caller, uh and the employment people.

Uh yes, we will be hiring all sorts of people.

Um I as an employer, I can't specify you know what kind of people.

Um so uh, but the idea is that uh after we get up and running, we would um you know Chris and I have both been educators, and I've been to Renaissance High School as well a number of times.

I would love to have um you know high school students as as well as community college students be part of our facility, um, so that it it is a natural flow of you know, one it gets us employment as well as educating uh for other developers in in the our field.

Uh yes, returning citizens are welcome.

Uh you know, that's not an issue.

And um, I'm not sure of the last question about the contracts with a natural disaster.

Uh we would just manage it as best we could, um, as any natural disaster happens upon anyone.

And I hope that uh completes any questions.

Just feel free.

All right, thank you.

Member Johnson, any additional questions, comments, concerns?

Seeing none, is there a motion?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move to send line item eight to formal with recommendation to approve.

Thank you, ma'am.

There's a motion to send line item eight to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Close out the 1105 public hearing.

All right.

On to next to the land bank MOU.

If we can take line items, member Johnson, if we can take line out of nine.

And also Madam Clerk.

Nine, 10.5, 10.7, 10.9 through 10.11, 10.13, 10.15 through 10.29, 10.31, 10.32, and 11.4, please.

We can take those items together for discussion.

Thank you so much.

As mentioned, these are all the items that we have on the agenda dealing with the land bank MOU.

And we have a handy here.

Uh yes.

Also line item 10.8.

Uh 10.8 does not have MOU.

Take a look at it again.

Um so these are all of the land bank MOU items that we have before us.

Uh, some of the items we have had, as we know, we've had extensive conversation about uh what this would look like in terms of the MOU.

Um we have compiled a list of items, amendments that are before us, and there's also items that have been omitted as well.

Um at request of the uh requesting member.

In addition to that, we also have good afternoon.

We also have some duplicate items here that we would need to address as well.

So let's first, if we can address the duplicate items.

Let's do address the duplicate items.

Um Madam Clerk, if we could please note that we've been joined by member waters.

My apologies.

The clerk will now.

Thank you so much.

We did uh notice a quorum would potentially be present, so uh there is no need for us to only relegate you to public comment as a result of that.

So just want to make that very clear for those who are calling in.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, so um again, let's deal with the duplicated items first.

Uh if we can remove line item 10.7 from the agenda, that is a duplicate of item line item 10.5, as well as remove line item 10.31, which is a duplicate of line item 10.29.

Is there a motion or further discussion?

So move, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

There's a motion to remove line items 10.7 as well as 10.31.

See no objections.

That action shall be taken.

All right, now we did uh in have a conversation with uh no there was multiple conversations with member waters officer.

You had a number of items here.

We thank you for providing those items uh to the committee uh for consideration, but I understand that there is a a shift in the the way you want to handle this as as we move forward.

So I'll uh member Johnson, if you don't have an issue, we'll like to turn the floor over to Member Waters.

Uh, because the number of these items are yours that you presented, but uh I do know that you had requested for us to remove those items from the agenda.

So the floor is yours, ma'am.

All right, and so thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Yes, we did um we said an email after committee last week.

We after we met and we met with our legislative policy uh division, and so we've narrowed it down to just a couple things that we really want to work on.

Um so we we sent an email to to your office and I don't know, maybe somewhere else too, asking that they eliminate all the items that were there, uh line items that were there last week.

Um we've asked that um LPD do uh two resolutions for us.

One of them, of course, was one that we'd already requested regarding the uh intergovernmental agreement.

And uh the other one is specifically related to the buyback program and 108 loans.

Um so I'm I'm I'm um happy that Member Johnson took the time to meet with us yesterday, and we um we came up uh with a plan um that she's very supportive of.

I'm gonna let her speak for herself in a minute.

But if if if you don't mind, I can just uh outline some of the things that that we're doing.

We'll we're working with uh member Johnson to develop a new homeownership program utilizing Detroit Land Bank Authority properties.

This initiative will be supported by 10 million dollars in HUD 108 loans and will prioritize the rehabilitation of currently occupied homes.

Uh we intend to launch a pilot program in District 4 targeting 100 homes.

This program will involve partnerships with nonprofit and faith-based organizations and will provide an opportunity to test the community voucher tools, CVT model.

Additionally, we're exploring collaboration with the Detroit Housing Commission to support residents through the use of housing choice vouchers as well.

So we're formally requesting the transfer of 100 uh Detroit Land Bank owned homes in District 4 with clear titles.

Uh we need cooperation from the housing and revitalization department, HRD, and the planning uh department to assist in developing program guidelines and requirements, and we need support hopefully from this committee to move the pilot forward and expand affordable home ownership opportunities for Detroiters.

Um assistance uh from the law department and legislative policy division regarding the legal process.

We'll need that.

And specifically, we are seeking clarification on whether changes can be made to the intergovernmental agreement after the MOU is passed out of committee and presented at former session.

Uh we respectfully request that LPD and law provide written responses to this question for them to our office.

So Mr.

Chairman, this is a significant opportunity to increase homeownership, bring uh those properties up to cold and to uh reduce blight um in our neighborhoods.

And so we'll we certainly are looking forward to moving this um project forward.

Uh the ultimate goal uh for me and I believe for Member Johnson too, is to seek people with home ownership.

People have a place to live.

And so that's why we decided to take this this approach.

I know we had dozens of amendments uh on your agenda.

We decided to drop them for the greater good uh so that we can do whatever we can to keep people in their homes, providing we can some cooperation from the Detroit Land Bank.

I thought they were kind of open to it.

I I don't recall Director Daniel saying no when I first mentioned it a couple of months ago.

So hopefully um she'll be able to speak to that today.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And do we have that uh in resolution?

Do we have a memo form submitted?

Because I know you have an email there, but we don't have it before us to move forward through.

No, because we we uh was just so that my colleagues are comfortable with sending everything through LPD.

We're not doing it from my office, so we made that request of LPD.

Well, I mean, but the the request has to come from the body to LPD to for that assignment.

Oh I think it's in East GWAF.

We submitted to you filed it.

Okay, okay.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I don't have anything further to add.

Um Dr.

Powers.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, madam Um Johnson, but um even though it's in E-Scribe, it it there needs to be a motion at the table making the assignment to LPD for clarity's sake.

Okay.

Oh and then followed by the memo, of course.

Thank you, Dr.

Powers.

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So, yes, we had a great conversation.

Member Waters um detailed what the pilot program would look like.

Um I do anticipate we'll need to have a lot of additional conversations with HRD with the Detroit Land Bank Authority to identify the resources and pull everything together.

But essentially, we were talking about occupied properties that are owned by the Detroit Land Bank Authority, creating an opportunity with nonprofit organizations to do the rehabilitation on those properties and work with the occupant to look at ways that we can assist them in becoming owner-occupants of those properties, recognizing that some of them may need to go through a process to rent the property before uh taking ownership and possession of the property, um, but certainly wanting to work with the Detroit Housing Commission for anyone who has a housing choice voucher and the program that they have that allows that affords people the opportunity to purchase a home using the voucher.

Uh, we also talked about NACA and the supportive services that they offer for homeowners.

Um, and then we additionally talked about connecting families with training and skill trades opportunities to ensure that they have the ability and the financial capacity to maintain the properties.

Um for me, this is kind of akin to the conversations we had a couple of years ago as it relates to providing resources to nonprofit organizations to rehab Detroit Land Bank Authority owned houses to get them occupied and helping to stabilize our neighborhoods.

This takes it a step further for uh those properties that are already occupied that are already occupied by uh individuals and families to just ensure that they are not being displaced.

Um to CEO Daniels, it is essentially the occupied program, but connecting it with uh nonprofit organizations that we know have done great work in the community who are willing to shepherd occupants through the process to become owners of those properties as opposed to uh the nonprofit organization owning them in perpetuity, uh, but giving the resident, giving the family the ability to own that particular property.

Again, I do believe we will need to have additional conversations just to solidify everything.

I also offered the um possibility of using perhaps CDBG home funds.

Uh, and then we also had the conversation about CLTs and how CLTs can work within this program to usher through owner occupants um as a part of the program.

So it's we we had a great conversation again, and hopefully we will continue to have great conversations to actually implement, but we would like to do that pilot.

And so with that, Mr.

Chair, I would like to make a motion to request that LPD um drafts a resolution to pull all of these pieces together um in order for us to continue to make progress and move forward.

Thank you so much.

And per Dr.

Powers, we're gonna make sure it's followed up with a memo.

I don't want to get in trouble with Dr.

Powers.

Uh, there's a motion on the floor, colleagues.

Any objection?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you so much.

And we uh have uh chairman young here.

We're gonna beg for a couple more minutes so we can complete this uh agenda once we get past the land bank, we'll be pretty good.

I thank you for your assistance.

We'd like to recess the planning and economic development standing committee to the call of the chair.

All right, neighborhood community service standing committee will now cover the session.

Will the clerk please call roll?

Council member common the second.

Yeah, Councilmember Angela Winfield Calloway.

Councilmember Scott Benson, Mr.

Chair, you do not have a quorum.

All right, uh, seeing that we do not have a quorum.

Um what's the language again?

I'll I would like to I would like to stand and recess the call of the chair.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

But now I'd like to call back to order the planning and economic development standing committee.

Madam Clerk, will you please call the role?

Council President Pro Tim James Tate.

Here council president Fred Durham.

Member Durahall is excused absence.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson present.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present any joint for you?

Council Proton we have quorum.

Your shout-outs too.

There it is.

Thank you so much.

We are now back in session.

Um so we were now so we did move the that item.

We're gonna send the memo.

Uh I know we did have folks from the land bank.

If you can introduce yourself for the record, please those who are online, please.

Good afternoon, Tammy Daniels, CEO for the Detroit Land Bank Authority.

Good afternoon, Reginald Scott, CFO COO Detroit Land Bank Authority.

Afternoon.

Doug Parker, an attorney with the uh the Great Land Bank Authority.

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon.

My name is Rob Lynn, the director of planning at the DLBA.

All right, good afternoon.

Good afternoon, Gabriel Guerrero, General Counsel here at the land bank.

Oh, thank you.

Good afternoon.

All right, so uh we we've already removed the duplicate items, uh, and we did discuss the fact that Member Waters did request a removal of uh many of the items that were before us, and I'm just gonna go through them and so that we can uh dispose of the items that are being requested for removal.

Uh and that is line item 10.11, 10.15 through 10.28.

If we can get if we there's a is there a motion to remove line items 10.11, 10.10 through 10.28.

So move seeing no objections, those items shall be removed from the agenda.

Okay.

So now that leaves us with uh line items uh 10.10.

That was a request for an extension.

Member Waters had requested, and that did take place.

So is there a motion to receive and file line item 10.10?

So move.

See no objections that action shall be taken.

Uh we did request in line item 10.13 that this uh mo you uh resolution would be for one year.

The resolution would be for one year.

Uh member Johnson, uh, we did not officially go through the process.

Is there any questions, comments, concern, or are you open to that item being added?

If you would like, we can uh uh place the graph that we put or the document we put.

I don't think we need to at this point because some of these items are being removed.

Yes, let's let's put them on the screen.

Let's place them on the screen.

So line item again, line item uh 10 point 13 was for a one-year um uh as opposed to the initial, I believe four years is what was before us uh initially Johnson.

Um discussion, or are you okay with that particular item being added to the resolution you want to have crafted for the body on Tuesday?

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I am fine with that.

Um so are you looking for 10 point 13 to be moved for approval?

Yes, ma'am.

And technically, let me let me just make this uh clear.

The the I item that contains the resolution is line item 10.32 for the public.

That was the item that was brought back to committee.

Well, we sent out uh and it was rejected and brought back to committee.

So that's the one that's actually live.

So the any amendments that we make today or recommended amendments would uh apply to line item 10.32.

And uh attorney Anderson, uh feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect on any of this as well as LPD.

All right, member Johns.

All right, move to amend the MOU language to add the expiration of one year from the passing of the MOU.

Thank you so much.

There's a motion to approve uh one year uh duration for the MOU following the passage of the amended MOU D DL Detroit Land Bank Authority MOU.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken again.

These are items that will be added to line item 10 point 32.

All right, so now we go to Yeah, I don't think this is I don't think this is gonna help us right now.

We'll go to line item 10 point uh 29, Member Johnson.

10 point 29.

That was the request for the discounted uh for CLT properties.

Let me pull that one up, 10 point 29, scrolling down.

All right, so it says status of council member Letitia Johnson submitting memorandum relative to amending land bank MOU to allow for property sales at discounted rate for uh community land trust program.

I understand we haven't finalized the community land trust uh ordinance at this point, but my other further understanding is if this language is placed into the MOU uh if and when the date that the uh COT ordinance does go into effect this item would then come into play and not until then.

Member Johnson, is there a motion for line item 10.29?

Move forward discussion with discussion, yes, ma'am.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I would just like for the Detroit Land Bank authority to um articulate the comment that they provided relative to the COT language.

Um I want to make sure that we are clear on what is being requested and would like to understand if there was something that needs to be clarified from the land bank so um through the chair and I'll uh defer to my colleague Doug Parker, but it appears that the language further up on the page at section three subsection M.

That language is right above well it's here.

It says subsex section five subsection M.

This language is earlier language before we um talked about the exact discounts and we and we settled on the exact discount.

So this in our opinion should be removed and the language that is further down under subsection community land trust is the language that we agreed to and outlined.

Um it actually tracks the formal policy that has been adopted by our board.

And for the public who are watching, it's on the the screen at this moment.

All right, thank you.

Um so with that, Mr.

Chair, because both are in this document, and is this the MOU language that I'm looking at?

This would be from my understanding the language that would be added.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, thank you.

Um that's again subsection M that we see on the screen currently.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um I want to uh make sure we're clear on this.

So I'd like to move to amend section five subsection M to remove the language.

The first paragraph I'm not really sure how to how to make this motion.

Um because all of everything is labeled under subsection M that will be included within the MOU that is more specific.

Okay.

Right.

If I may I um may I add something, please, to the chair.

Sure.

Um what we're talking about is in the MOU is section for M.

Um.

So first of all, you know, that's the topic.

Right now it's really just a sentence about the land bank agreeing to work with the city if they adopt uh uh CLT program.

And so I um my understanding is we would be taking that out and replacing that sentence or two with what we see on the screen right now.

Uh a new section for M regarding community land trusts, uh talking about the the discounts and it will formalize a policy, which in fact our board did adopt uh at its board meeting last month.

So we now do have a CLT policy.

And and uh through the chair, council member Johnson, we we your office uh we gave a copy of that to uh to folks at your office.

So we're well on the way to already meeting the uh the goal here in this in this document.

Awesome, thank you.

Uh all right, Mr.

Chair, my team helped me to clear up the language.

So I'd like to make sure make a motion to remove the language that was pulled from the March 12th memo.

Um which I believe, excuse me, through the chair, I believe that's what's above, right?

Um if you scroll up, yeah.

Right right there.

Yep.

That's subsection.

The language in the the current resolution that is in subsection M, Member Johnson, you're asking to remove that language and supplant it with the information that we just read.

Well, Mr.

Chair, I'm not sure that we can call it subsection M because they both are identified as subsection M.

Um, but after the first area, there in parentheses it says language pool from March 12th MOU.

That entire paragraph can be removed because the detailed um information is included following this language.

Okay.

So for clarity, again, it's on the screen, madam clerk, and all uh the paragraph that starts the Detroit Land Bank as a part of its community partnership program shall assist the housing and revitalization department.

Dot dot dot goes all the way through uh to the end of the sentence where it says detailed under the city's CLT ordinance.

Are you mentioning that portion should be removed?

So moved, Mr.

Chair.

All right, there's a motion to remove though that verbiage from the current resolution, amended resolution before us.

See no objection that action shall be taken.

Take us up, take us back to that language that we just discussed.

The new there we go.

All right, member Johnson.

Do you want to add this language in there?

The language on the screen currently.

Um, Mr.

Chair, I believe that language is already there.

Okay, motion to well, just to make sure.

I mean, if it's there, I I don't see it, but I'm I may be off.

It is not.

Okay.

I I thought the information that I received was had already been added.

Okay, so motion to amend the MOU language to add subsection M.

That is currently on the land trusts that is currently on the screen that details discounts.

All right.

There's a motion, and again, we're going to make sure that all this information is again provided to ensure clarity, but that's why we wanted to make sure it was on the screen so you could read it and everyone knows we're talking about.

All right, so there's a motion to include in subsection M this language that is currently on the screen, and I will begin reading.

It says M dot community land trust.

Period.

The Detroit Land Bank shall provide all applicable discounts to the price of land sold to the community.

Dot dot dot.

And it goes all the way through the subsection three, where it indicates that 80% of off market value for affordable housing developments where at least 25% of the units are sold, leased to persons earning no more than 50% of the area area median income.

That is the language that shall be added to the amended DLBA MOU.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

All right.

And line item 10 point 5.

If we can go to that one.

Line item 10 point five.

Come on, screen.

Just an overall modification of the DLVA's MOU.

Member Johnson, is there a motion to receive and file this particular item?

So move.

As a motion to receive and file line item 10.5.

See no objections that action shall be taken.

And line item 10.9.

If we drop down there, we were awaiting the response for that particular item.

And that is Member Johnson, you were well, actually, I believe we got this response.

We have.

Yeah.

Um is there a motion for line item 10.9 from my understanding.

Uh it's indicated that we can't address this particular item in the MOU, but potentially in the uh intergovernmental agreement, the IGA.

So is there a motion uh for line item 10.9?

Move to remove line item 10.9.

Thank you, ma'am.

There's a motion to remove line item 10.9 from the agenda.

See no objections, that action shall be taken.

All right.

Madam Clerk, from the items that I mentioned, did I miss anything?

Uh MOU wise.

I know we have 10.8, but I believe that 10.8 uh has other items in there as opposed to the MOU.

Um, Mr.

Chair, if you could um now take a motion to discuss line item 10.32.

We will go through the um suggested language that was offered by um other colleagues um that are reflective in um that particular report from LPD.

And we can share screen again to kind of go through that list.

All right, let's go to 10 point 32.

Thank you for again compiling this information team.

That's her motion.

Well, we're in discussion.

Starting with number two uh under Pro Tim James Tate.

Yep.

Line item two uh included in the current MOU now, therefore in section four, uh the Detroit Land Bank duties subsection C uh three before listing a property for sale that has been cued for demolition, the land bank shall inquire with the Detroit uh City of Detroit construction and demolition department whether they have cut the water sewer line uh to the property.

If the line Detroit land bank receives a definitive information from the construction and demolition department that the water and or sewer line uh to the property has been cut, the Detroit land bank will notify the potential buyers on its website.

Uh period.

So we've we we we really touched on that the land bank that that was actually added into line item uh 10.32 informally, but we did not vote on it here at the table.

Member Johnson, is there a motion to include this item into the uh amended resolution?

So move.

See no objections that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Line item three on the screen there from uh Pro Tim Tate included in the current MOU, now therefore section four, the Detroit Land Bank duties.

Um just making a change here in the if you see the um uh bolded section there, adding in partial white box or complete renovation of structures with the focus on blighted structures around schools, community centers, places of worship, and other gathering places, non-structural blight removal.

Uh that is the language being requested to add to that section.

Uh is there a motion to discuss and or approve?

So move, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

There's a motion to approve that language.

See no objection, that action shall be taken.

Moving along from council member Santiago Romero, there was a request to add language.

Uh now therefore, uh in the therefore section four, uh the Detroit Land Bank duties.

Section 4, the Detroit Land Bank duties, section subsection E.

Properties selected for the nuisance abatement program will only be acquired through the referral from buildings and safety and engineering and environmental department.

The Detroit Land Bank Authority will not conduct independent surveys to assess and acquire property for nuisance abatement program.

And I know that was uh language again that was supplied by member Santiago Romero.

Is there a motion to discuss and or approve this item?

I know I do have some challenges with this one myself.

Um do believe that um we have not flushed out the full NAP portion yet.

Um but that's just my concern on that particular item.

Discussion with discussion, yes, ma'am.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So it looks like there is some alternate language that's being suggested by the land bank to have a coordination between the land bank and BC to identify properties.

Yes, ma'am.

There was some alternative language.

I didn't want to go there yet until you uh were comfortable or not comfortable with the language that was being presented by our colleague.

But if if you would like to entertain it, the land bank did provide some alternative language, and the land bank can certainly feel free to explain uh the rationale for the uh alternative language uh to the land bank, give you an opportunity to talk about your alternative language.

So through the chair, um the language that we provided is consistent with our current practice that we we absolutely consult with B seed um regarding properties in the nuisance abatement program.

Additionally, I will note for the record that the city did fund the land bank to conduct surveys across the city, um, which we just recently completed the second full pass of that process, which helped us to identify properties for the um the program.

What's your thoughts, ma'am?

Floor is yours.

So, Mr.

Chair, I seeing that the requested language is that they are only referred from the building department, it says to me that council members would not even be able to provide properties for the land bank to consider for nuisance abatement, um, unless we went through BC.

So I don't I wouldn't personally think that's necessary.

Um, I know some of our colleagues have some challenges with the nuisance abatement program, but I do believe that um it helps us to keep properties out of the demolition pipeline if we address them sooner than later and really get them back into um some use and not just being a vacant property.

So is there a motion?

Uh move to well, I don't know that anything needs to be added if if the alternate language is the way they currently conduct business.

Well, but I mean it is this verbatim what's in the in the current MOU or was this language tweaked at all?

I do not have the current MOU in front of me uh at this moment, so I do apologize for that to the land bank.

Sounds like it's faltered a bit.

Yes, if I may, uh, through the chair, uh the what's showing here on the screen, the alternate language from the DLBA is close to what's in there now, but it is it has been modified because we were trying to address each of the two components of council member uh Gabriela Santiago Romero's uh request.

You know, we we address B seed and then the second sentence we address our surveys all right.

So move to move to amend the MOU to add the alternate language from the DLBA from the DLBA.

All right, there's a motion to alter the current language in subsection.

What subsection is that again?

Four uh under Detroit Land Bank duties subsection four.

Uh there's a motion to replace that language to include the language in blue that we see on the screen right now.

Uh that starts with properties will be identified for the nuisance abatement program in con coordination with dot dot dot and it ends with nuisance abatement program at the request of the city again.

That is the language in blue on the screen.

See no objection, then action shall be taken.

We've dealt with the uh item here, uh line item five on our uh chart.

Um we are now going to line item six, and I know member waters did indicate that you had removed many of these items from the uh request of the body.

Um and this was the one that was sent in an email.

Um so just to be clear again.

The email that you that you sent to um our staff, you want to remove that information that is well.

Okay, so we won't even go through that at this moment.

So let's scroll to and that also includes the land disposition programs, member waters.

That was another okay.

All right, so we will I think we're done with our list.

Um Madam Clerk, are there any other MOU items that we may have missed?

No counselor.

Okay, thank you so much.

Attorney Anderson, our our next move on this particular document, and that is line item 10.32.

That is the actual um resolution for the amended DLBA MOU.

Um will it be possible to have these items that this committee approve today be placed in a newly stated uh amended version and be provided to the full body uh for Tuesday approval?

Through the chair, I believe so.

I would just uh highly recommend is Dr.

Powers, I'm sure would say too, to move this as amended as he stated earlier.

Yep.

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right.

So member Johnson, is there a motion to move line item 10 point 32 to formal uh as amended um for approval?

So move.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Thank you so much.

All right, I believe it takes us to the end of the MOU items.

Thank you, Member Waters.

All right.

Um and we're gonna take uh as much time as the committee allows us to, and we're gonna keep moving.

Line item 10.1, 10.14, and 10.30.

If we can please take those items together, member Johnson uh for discussion.

So move.

Thank you.

We did get from the various entities that they are seeking uh an additional week uh on these particular items.

Uh let me see.

No, actually.

Yeah, so 10.8.

Let me do with 10.8.

Is there a motion to remove from the agenda line item 10.8?

So move.

See you no objections that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Now if we can discuss line item 10.1, 10.14, 10.30.

So move.

See no objections, we're in discussion.

Member Johnson, is there uh motion?

We did get a request for a one-week bring back on these items.

So move.

See no objection, we should bring back line items 10.1, 10.14, and 10 point 30 in one week.

Seeing no objections that action shall be taken.

Dropping down the line item 10.2 status of city planning commission extension of review period for proposed zoning text amendment.

Uh that's screening.

Uh is there a motion to discuss and or approve.

Um this one probably should be with the others.

Yeah.

Uh is there a motion to bring back line item 10 point.

All right, uh, we got CPC online.

Discussion.

Yeah, with discussion.

CPC.

All right, we're waiting for CPC.

Uh uh, he's like, I'm coming to join you.

Thank you for joining us, sir.

Afternoon, Director Todd.

Wow.

That kind of a day.

It is good afternoon.

And again, my apologies.

Uh thank you, Mr.

President Pro Tim and Member Johnson.

Uh, as it concerns the screening and buffering ordinance.

Yes, sir.

Uh, and the immediate two line items that are before you, uh, we have learned following a brief review of the proposed changes that have been presented to this uh committee from members Johnson and Santiago Romero that um and based upon some of the uh uh concessions that have been made, it does not appear as though a hearing will be necessary.

Therefore, uh the suggestion has been made.

If we were to be given another week, we can complete a draft of that, and a substitute ordinance can be prepared that the committee could then consider as an extension of the hearings that have already been held of the of the original hearing and continued hearing that was held, and this item could in fact be acted upon uh before the end of this term.

Okay, so you for clarity, no need for we can remove line item 10.2.

So if you would um I'm sorry.

Extension, yes, that's what the extension is is 10.2, and yes, that would be necessary again in order to keep it to keep it live uh as it expires on the 17th.

Okay, that's what I was thinking.

So you that's right, yes.

So there's a member Johnson a lot to allow the other items that we just moved for one week uh to stay up uh alive.

I believe there's an extension that's requested and needed in line item 10.2.

Is there a motion?

Move for approval.

Thank you, ma'am.

There's a motion to approve line item 10.2 and send a formal with a recommendation to approve.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Thank you, Director Todd.

Thank you.

Line item 10.3 status of planning and development department.

Uh, these are property sales.

Um on a numerous properties on Neuremberg as well as Doyle.

We did have an opportunity to speak to the administration who's requesting this item be removed from the agenda.

Is there a motion to remove line item 10.3 from the agenda?

So move.

Seeing no objections, we should remove line item 10.3 from the agenda that action shall be taken.

Dropping down the line item 10.6.

Uh line item 10.6 status of legislative policy division draft community land trust ordinance.

Is there a motion to discuss, please?

So move.

Thank you, Member Johnson.

I know you've been working on this one.

Yes.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, it looks like we are in communication with the law department.

Um, and unfortunately, uh, we won't be able to get this one done by the end of the year.

And so I would like to make a motion to bring line item 10.6 back for a date to be determined.

Thank you, ma'am.

There's a motion to send line item 10.6.

Bring it back at a date to be determined.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Yes, ma'am.

I just want to clarify.

So since it is being brought back for a date to be determined, it will not fall to the floor uh to Mr.

Anderson.

Through the chair, it will likely need to be refiled, eascribed again come January.

Okay.

All right, thank you.

But that said the TBD uh motion is appropriate.

Yeah, I think the big challenge is that we don't have time for hearing, and we gotta get everything in in order.

So unfortunately clock is run out.

All right, there's a motion again to to uh bring I think we are done it.

All right, thank you.

All right, so dropping down now to line item 10.12.4.

10.4.

All right, keep me honest, keep me honest.

10 point four.

Status of council president Mary Sheffield submitting memorandum relative to BZA questions.

We are awaiting a response from uh LPD.

Member Johnson is a motion to bring back in three weeks.

Line item 10.4.

So move.

See no objections that action shall be taken.

Now let's drop down to 10.12.

Line item 10.12 status of Council President Pro Tim James Tate submitted memorandum relative to request for comprehensive list of tax abatements in District 1.

Is there a motion to bring back in one week?

So move.

Thank you so much.

We've been told we should have it by then.

That's a motion to bring back line item 10.12 in one week.

See no objections, that action shall be taken.

Dropping down to line item 11.1.

Scrolling all the way down to 11.1.

All right.

New business, Office of Contract and Procurement, 11.1, submitting resolution authorization, 100% city funding, contract number 6007 355.

This is to provide coordinated entry services for Detroit homeless management information system.

Move for approval with discussion.

There's a motion to approve with discussion.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

In the essence of time, I will just ask the question.

But if HRD can just follow up with an email.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Um hopefully that's being noted by HRD and respond to your office.

Thank you so much.

All right.

Um again there's uh just to make sure I think I did move that one.

There's a motion to approve.

See no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 11.2.

This is the city planning commission uh submitting report and proposed ordinance uh for line item 11.2, Mr.

Todd.

Move forward discussion.

Move to discussion with discussion.

I know once again we are running out of time in terms of uh opportunity for public hearings.

Yes.

Again, um similar to uh the previous item uh coming from us as you indicate, Mr.

Chair, Mr.

President Pro Tem.

This item is just being received for uh having been referred on Tuesday, and this is the ordinance um that was essentially initiated by request of the chief operating officer for suggested amendments to the zoning ordinance that pretty much mirror the work that we've been doing with Zone Detroit.

Uh it is pretty voluminous.

Uh it is something that was quite ambitious, quite aggressive, and we've successfully tailored it, narrowed it down to something that uh commission and other city staff are certainly supportive of and comfortable with.

Um wish that there had been more community engagement.

Uh and certainly if there is not time for this honorable body to deal with it, that would provide opportunity for there to be continued engagement.

There is the one question which we have raised with law with respect to uh the provision in the code that indicates that if an item is not acted upon within 120 days of its submission, then it is considered denied.

And as we come to the end of the term, uh again, like with the previous item on screening and buffering, it appears as though that is something that you will be able to act upon before the term ends.

We want clarity as to what that means in this this instance when it comes to uh zoning related changes, given that provision in the zoning ordinance that would indicate that it would die.

Uh given when you receive this item, it's that 120-day life would extend on into February, early February of the new year.

So we're not clear if we have to submit again, and if we can submit again, or if in fact this item would in fact have to go back and start over altogether with new public hearings at the planning commission.

So, you know, we recognize that there may be nuances when it comes to the sort of items that are before you.

So that's the sort of clarity we've been seeking from law department as they prepare this memo uh with respect to uh your end of term uh activities and all of the items that are before your honorable body.

Thank you so much.

And uh attorney Anderson, that response is not complete at this point, correct?

Through the chair, that's correct.

All right, do we think we'll have that in one week?

I believe so.

All right, member Johnson, is there a motion to bring back uh this item uh line item 11.2 in one week?

So move.

See no objections, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

All right.

Moving on to line item 11.3 from the housing and revitalization department submitting resolution authorization, request to accept and appropriate an alternative environmental mitigation grant.

Is there a motion to approve and or discuss?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 11.3 and send a formal with a recommendation to approve.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 11.5, miscellaneous, council member Gabriela Santiago Romero.

There's a request for information uh on the development project adjunction and McGraw.

Uh member Johnson, uh, can we get a motion to bring back in one week to provide a response on that one?

So move.

See no objection.

We shall bring back line item 11.5 in one week.

That action shall be taken.

Line item 11.6, council member Mary Waters submitting memorandum relative to draft ordinance requests directed at directed to HRD and PDD to form joint occupied home rehabilitation program with nonprofit support.

Is there a motion to refer line item 11.6 to HRD and PDD and bring back in three weeks?

So move.

Seeing no objection, those actions shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh member Johnson.

I do just want to say that this is the uh memo relative to the we earlier made a motion for LPD.

Chair.

I hear a voice.

Yeah, uh, Mr.

Hurt, yes, sir.

Uh as you indicated earlier when uh council member waters was there, there were three uh resolutions that she had requested from LPD to uh draft.

These are line items number 11.6, 11.7, 11.8 to be referred to LPD for those resolutions.

Okay.

Well, Member Johnson, if we can move line items 11.6, 11.7, and 11.8 uh and bring back when do you think you'll have the the items ready for us?

If we can bring it back uh next week, we should be have something for you there.

One week okay.

We heard three weeks earlier from the other entity.

So I think we should you know, because rely on that and give it the time, make sure that it comes back to us and not in piecemeal.

Whoop.

That's fine.

All right.

Uh so uh member Johnson, can we get a three-week bring back on those three items, please?

Thank you so much.

There's a motion to bring back line items 11.6, 11.8, and 11.9 in three weeks.

Seeing no objections that action shall be taken, and it takes us here.

Uh member Johnson.

I believe it was 11.6, 11.7, and 11.8.

That's correct.

I thought I said that.

I'm sorry.

Ah, I looked at nine.

Okay.

Correction, uh, madam clerk.

My apologies.

That is line items 11.6, 11.7, and 11.8.

Bring back in three weeks, please.

Um, we're referring those items to LPD, PDD, and HRD.

See no objection that action shall be taken.

Thank you, ma'am.

And now we're at a line item uh 11.9.

Councilmember Mary Waters submitting memorandum relative to receiving a legal opinion pertaining to the uses of HUD Section 108 loan uh loans to rehabilitate occupied homes.

We kind of talked about that a little bit as well.

Um there motion to bring this one back in three weeks that way we make sure everything's on track.

Or would you like it earlier?

So move.

All right.

As a motion to refer this item to law and uh bring back in three weeks.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

And it takes us to memory reports.

Is there a motion to suspend?

There's a motion to suspend memory reports, seeing no objections that action shall be taken.

Thank you, thank you, thank you to neighborhood and community services for allowing us to um continue and close out this agenda.

Uh without further business, this meeting stands adjourned without objection.