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Detroit City Council Internal Operations Committee Meeting - March 25, 2026

City CouncilWednesday, March 25, 2026
BodyDetroit, Michigan
SessionCity Council
DateWednesday, March 25, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:00

If the clerk could so kindly call the roll.

0:04

Good morning.

0:04

Councilman Ramsa Winfield Callaway.

0:07

Present.

0:07

Councilmember Scott Benson.

0:10

Councilmember Renata Miller.

0:12

She has an excused absence today, sir.

0:14

The clerk will so note.

0:15

Madam Chair Dakota.

0:17

Thank you so much.

0:18

We have invocation.

0:20

Miss JC is our um pastor on the line to provide invocation.

0:25

Good morning, Madam Chair.

0:27

The pastors here.

0:28

We have Rev.

0:28

Dr.

0:29

Melvin Andrew Davis from New Prospect Missionary Baptist Church.

0:32

Good morning, Reverend Davis.

0:34

How are you?

0:35

Good morning, uh, Councillor Callaway.

0:38

I'm well.

0:40

Let us pray.

0:43

Heavenly Father, we thank you today for the gift of leadership and for the opportunity to serve our community.

0:50

We lift up our council member Angela Whitfield Callaway and her entire team before you.

0:57

Lord, grant them the wisdom to make sound decisions, courage to stand for what is right, and the compassion for the people they have been called to serve.

1:07

Lord God, their conversations and their planning and their work today so that it leads to peace, progress, and the common good for all.

1:34

In your holy name we pray.

1:36

Amen.

1:37

Amen.

1:38

Thank you, Pastor Davis, and welcome again to Detroit.

1:42

We are so happy that you are the leader of new um Prospect Missionary Baptist Church on the corner of Pembroke and Livernoy and Stopo.

1:52

Um I love you.

1:53

Thank you so much for the welcome.

1:54

Absolutely.

1:55

I tried to get you to get that nine million dollar um bishop mansion over there.

2:00

Remember, we talked about that when I came to the church a few months back when you first came to the channel.

2:03

If it's not it, if it's not purchased, we'll get it soon.

2:07

Well, guess what?

2:08

Guess what, Pastor Davis?

2:10

It sold for $800,000 about two months ago.

2:14

It was missed for $9 million about 18 months ago, and just recently it sold for I think was $800,000.

2:21

So we've missed our opportunity.

2:24

Oh, we pray for another one.

2:26

Lord, that's a miracle.

2:27

It is a miracle.

2:28

But thank you so much, and I'll see you at church service real soon.

2:33

God bless you.

2:35

All right.

2:36

It's from Alabama, and that church had um didn't have a permanent pastor after the passing of Wilma.

2:46

The community, but he is doing an amazing job.

2:49

The uh membership over there is on the um increase.

2:53

Um, and we're just grateful that that church is just beautiful.

2:56

If you haven't seen us right there on the corner of um Livernoy and Pembroke, and we are um so appreciative, appreciative of him.

3:05

All right, moving on right along.

3:07

Is there a motion to uh for the approval of the minutes?

3:11

Motion okay.

3:12

Any objections?

3:14

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

3:16

There is no there are no chair remarks, and if you can turn off public comment, Miss JC.

3:23

Public comment is now turned off.

3:25

It is five minutes after nine.

3:28

Do we have anyone in the um chamber who would like to speak?

3:31

Mr.

3:31

Cuttingham, if you can have a seat there.

3:34

You have two minutes.

3:36

Mr.

3:36

Ruben Crowley, you can sit next to him.

3:38

You'll also have two minutes.

3:39

Oh, it's black back.

3:41

It's Mr.

3:41

Ruben Crowley.

3:51

Mr.

3:51

Cuttingham, you have two minutes, and good morning, Mr.

3:54

Cunningham.

3:56

Good morning, everyone in the sound of my voice.

3:58

I pray for all those that are in authority, city council, the mayor.

4:02

Keep praying.

4:04

Also, want you to pray for Miss Um Lisa Franklin of Warriors on Reals.

4:09

Just keep her in prayer.

4:10

She's such a kind person, kind heart.

4:13

Um, Casey Pallor from uh Detroit Disability Power, my mom, myself.

4:19

Just just when you feel it, ask the Holy Spirit and inspire you to pray or take an action.

4:26

Follow it.

4:28

Um 313-444-9114-313-444-9114-313.

4:34

Four four four 9114.

4:36

That number was made so you can remember it.

4:38

Um, that's my Cash Up Patreon, different articles.

4:41

If you Google that, you will find some stuff uh about what I do in the community.

4:47

So I was in Pittsburgh.

4:49

I said this before, uh, for a training uh with uh alongside Transit Riders United TRU.

4:55

And uh I brought my demographic, you know, and uh and I took took what I wanted from it down there in Pittsburgh.

5:02

You can they okay, we call it bridge card, they call it snap.

5:05

You just show the driver, you just show the driver um that and you get half off.

5:11

Is in Pittsburgh it's called the the Go program.

5:14

And maybe we can do that half off or free if they have the bridge card.

5:19

It already certifies that they are low income.

5:23

Um borderless uh peer transit.

5:29

We should get here.

5:30

I believe all bus fares should be free, especially since the buses don't run on time.

5:35

And I've been harping on this for a long time.

5:37

Honorable councilwoman.

5:38

I would love to have bus tickets and validation for folks to come down to public comment.

5:44

It ain't me.

5:45

I believe it's the Holy Spirit inspired me to say that.

5:49

Um I don't think people will take advantage of it.

5:51

They might, but please, I don't know what else to do uh but to ask and pray.

6:01

Ambassador.

6:04

Mr.

6:04

Ruben Crowley, you have two minutes and the clock is um starting right now.

6:08

Miss JC, if you can start the clock.

6:09

The name is black bag, the name is black bag now.

6:13

Angela Whitfield Callaway, you enforce me.

6:16

Y'all enforce me, City Council.

6:18

I gotta take action against y'all.

6:19

This scoundrel over here is to your right.

6:22

That's Scott Benson, district D representative.

6:25

You yourself, District Two Representative, and Letitia Johnson, District D's representative for the Detroit City Council 2026.

6:36

Y'all is cheated in.

6:38

And now, Angela, you gotta get exposed.

6:42

So I'm gonna focus on District 2.

6:45

I'm gonna skip over District 1.

6:48

I'm gonna start with District 2, District 3, District 4, and that order.

6:53

You there's legal action getting ready to be taken against you.

6:58

I'm gonna have to file lawsuits.

7:00

Nini wants what the F she wants.

7:02

She wants y'all to stop saying her mama killed herself, and y'all don't want to do it.

7:06

I told y'all who did it.

7:08

I put the name out there.

7:10

That's totally against uh 45 years of my history, my reputation, my code.

7:21

Now, she's a murderer.

7:24

Y'all covering up the cover-up of a cover up of a cover up of a murder.

7:31

And my hat goes off to Detrick Mott.

7:34

He filed uh aggravated a suck complaint.

7:38

July 16th, after he left that hospital, after he left Detroit receiving hospital, he went to the eighth precinct and filed a complaint that's been buried.

7:50

Buried.

7:51

I'm sick of you.

7:53

Oh, yeah.

7:54

Scott Dis, Scott Benson, you can smoke dick.

7:59

Angela Callaway, you can smoke.

8:02

Cut off his mic.

8:03

Why?

8:04

That's not no bad word.

8:06

This is a breach of the peace.

8:08

This is a breach of the peace.

8:10

It's now occurring with Mr.

8:11

Ruben.

8:13

Removed from the chamber of the whole.

8:17

Committee.

8:18

Yes.

8:19

Smoke dick isn't it?

8:20

It's in a dictionary.

8:21

Please remove him from the chambers.

8:24

Come on.

8:25

Great badge.

8:26

Disgusting.

8:28

Smoke dick.

8:30

Disgusting.

8:32

Yo, murmur.

8:33

Disgusting.

8:34

Just disgusting.

8:36

That's what it means.

8:37

Please remove him.

8:38

It's a breach of the peace.

8:40

That is not a breach of smoke ticket.

8:42

I've seen all the time.

8:46

We were recessed through the call of the chair.

8:48

We are being disrupted by unruly behavior.

8:51

You told me to get out.

9:08

Okay, we will go back into session.

9:10

Uh, don't believe we need to um recall um a roll call, do we?

9:15

Yes, we do.

9:16

Okay.

9:16

If the clerk could call the roll again, and please, I apologize.

9:20

I'm sorry, we have to be subjected to this every time.

9:23

Um certain people from the community come into our meetings and to disrupt them.

9:29

So I apologize.

9:30

Mr.

9:31

Clerk, if you could call the roll again.

9:33

Councilmember Angela Phil Callaway.

9:35

Present, sir.

9:36

Councilmember Scott Benson.

9:37

Scott Benson I.

9:38

Councilmember Renana Miller.

9:40

She has an excuse absence, sir.

9:41

Clerk was so note.

9:43

You do have a corn.

9:44

Thank you so much, sir.

9:45

Madam Chair.

9:46

Yes, sir.

9:47

Do yourself to the law department.

9:49

Um we could please resend the opinion from the law department on the ability of city council to permanently bar unruly public commenters from our sessions.

10:06

I'd like to revisit that based on today's behavior.

10:09

For the chair, absolutely.

10:40

But on the other hand, too, this is a two-way street.

10:44

And we treat the citizens of Detroit with respect, and we're only asking the same thing in return.

10:51

Thank you.

10:52

Thank you.

10:53

I look forward to that opinion being re-released to all my colleagues.

10:59

On this point, um, when might we get that report, Mr.

11:03

Anderson from the law department?

11:05

Because this is getting out of hand.

11:07

It's been happening on a regular basis almost daily now.

11:10

We're subjected to this type of treatment and disrespect, and nobody deserves it.

11:15

Whether you hold a political correction, public service position or not.

11:20

No one deserves this.

11:23

Through the chair, it'll be uh my top priority as soon as we finish committee.

11:26

Thank you so much.

11:27

Thank you.

11:30

All right.

11:30

Um, Miss JC, how many callers do we have virtually?

11:36

Madam Chair, we have five hands raised for virtual public comment.

11:39

And the first caller is the first caller is William M.

11:43

Davis.

11:44

Mr.

11:44

Davis, you have two minutes, sir, and good morning.

11:50

Uh good morning.

11:52

Can I be heard?

11:53

You can, sir.

11:54

I can hardly hear you.

11:57

You can be heard.

11:59

Okay, I I like to say that I I think that um we should look into more about how the the number of lawsuits that we have and the number of indemnifications and the number of people that we represent.

12:11

I think a greater effort should be made to try to reduce those.

12:15

Each department should have a concerted effort to try to reduce the number of uh lawsuits.

12:21

Uh also I I think that uh yeah should be a little bit more forceful sometime with people.

12:30

I I think also that we need to have a greater encouragement of getting our voting numbers up.

12:37

Uh we have a problem in the city of Detroit because I'm older than both of you, but I remember when the city of Detroit used to determine who's going to be elected governor, who's going to be elected, you know, U.S.

12:48

Senators.

12:49

Uh we still have a sizable population.

12:52

We just need to make sure more of our people are actually voting.

12:56

We need to be an example to the whole state.

12:59

You know, not somebody, not an entity that the rest of the state looks down on our numbers that we overall have and the number of people that's actually voting.

13:09

So we need to have a major campaign to get more people to vote.

13:13

Uh that would make a big difference in what's going on in this state and in this city.

13:19

Uh thank you.

13:21

Also, also um I'm surprised yeah, I don't get more information because like when I was a police commission, I used to get notifications like uh on Monday, there was a dead body on the corner of West Grand Boulevard and Rosa Parks for quite some time.

13:37

It was just covered up, uh, you know, a white sheet over it before they did anything with it.

13:42

You know, I think we should get more information from the police about what's going on in each district.

13:48

Thank you.

13:49

Thank you, Mr.

13:50

Davis.

13:51

The next caller is the next caller is owner Papa.

13:57

Owner Popper, you have two minutes.

14:04

Uh good morning.

14:06

Uh may I be heard?

14:07

You can be heard.

14:08

Thank you.

14:09

Uh, yes, uh disgusting is a good word, a good word for how um people in the city of Detroit are being treated.

14:18

Uh especially the black people in this city who are the majority.

14:21

We get pushed around from district to district.

14:24

And and and let me say this.

14:26

Um, this I some day.

14:28

Was it at ISOM who dropped all the charges or wouldn't tell anyone why they raided uh councilman uh Benson's home?

14:36

Um what what is really disrespectful is how we're being treated.

14:42

Um you see it daily.

14:45

We call in and we ask you questions and you you don't respond.

14:49

And some of them are very good questions, like how long are we going to keep um and demifying and paying the legal representation for all of these police officers and uh B said and everybody else who's doing um wrong things.

15:04

Um let me say to you, Mr.

15:06

Benson.

15:07

The first time I heard your name, you were found slumped over a seat.

15:12

Um, I don't know, in some stupor, but now you want to denigrate people in the city of Detroit.

15:18

Um I I don't think that you you have a tower, a high tower that you sit on.

15:23

I think maybe you think you do, but you don't.

15:26

The first time I heard about you, you were you were you you were in some stupor behind the wheel, unresponsive.

15:35

I I don't know how you can criticize anybody else when that's that's your behavior as well.

15:43

Um this is the internal operations committee, and you heard Ms.

15:49

Santiago Romero say that they were running this city like a sanctuary city that has to be voted on.

15:57

These are the illegal things that occur at this table.

16:00

And Mr.

16:00

Anderson, you I don't I don't know where you come from, but I don't think you are the authority here either.

16:07

Thank you.

16:09

Always enjoy your comments, Miss Owner Popper.

16:12

The next caller is you have two minutes.

16:15

Next caller is Betty A.

16:16

Varner.

16:17

Miss Verner, you have two minutes and good morning, ma'am.

16:23

Good morning, madam chair, and to all within the sound of my voice.

16:27

I'm Betty A.

16:28

Varner, president of DeSoda Ellsworth Black Association.

16:32

If you are a senior or you are disabled, and you need help in your home with your chores, uh, with cooking, uh running errands, uh, you just need help so that you can be able to stay in your home.

16:49

Uh, if you are considered a nursing home candidate, but you would love to stay in your home and you're not eligible for Medicaid.

16:59

Please call Detroit Area Agency for the Aging at 313 446, 444, 313, 446, 444, ask for a program that's called My Choice Waiver, that's MI Choice Waiver.

17:22

This program will allow you to earn up to 2900 a month and be eligible for uh Medicaid.

17:32

Medicaid then will open up doors for other services that you can receive for not only at Detroit area agency, but for anywhere there uh is Medicaid services, you would be eligible.

17:48

And this is a federal program that uh is basically to help people stay in their homes and not be in nursing homes or live in assistance because they say it is much uh cheaper, less expensive to help a person to stay in their homes.

18:09

So please, if you need these services, reach out.

18:13

People are telling me they're not getting a response, they're leaving messages.

18:17

If you call, please document the date and time you call when you left your voicemail and then ask to speak to a supervisor.

18:27

I'm in the program.

18:29

Thank you.

18:29

Thank you, Miss Varner.

18:32

The next caller is the next caller is Foster.

18:36

Foster, you have two minutes and good morning.

18:41

Um good morning through the chair.

18:43

Just a few things.

18:44

First, I always appreciate the invocations.

18:47

I think that if we people profess to be Christians, they ought to be more like Christ.

18:53

And to that point, I agree with Owner Papa, one of the teachers of Christ is he said he without sin.

19:01

Let him cast the first stone.

19:03

And that was in reference to an adulterer caught and condemned to death.

19:07

And then more importantly, what Christ said was go thy way and sin no more.

19:13

And so we have to learn to be passionate and compassionate and exhibit the same mercies and graces that have been given to us.

19:22

Secondly, why don't condone the behavior and different things?

19:26

I do understand it.

19:27

Martha King once said, and I quote, violence is the voice of the unheard.

19:34

And to elaborate on that, he further said violent rebellion arises where marginalized immunities feel their grievances are ignored and is and systemic injustices are unaddressed.

19:47

And so what that's telling us is that when our community comes down and continue to speak, and speaking no longer works, just like on the national level, when diplomacy fails, then wars begin.

20:01

Violence begins.

20:03

We have to find a way to bring grievances back in our community and allow for issues to be addressed on a human level so that they don't escalate.

20:14

We could preach prevention and proactiveness, but government has the big money.

20:19

Government has the power.

20:21

Government has the ability to mitigate these things if they're open to it.

20:27

But when people are confronting oversight issues and government don't want to take accountability, then they are compelled to use coercive and forceful means to suppress community.

20:40

We have to do better.

20:42

And thank you for listening.

20:44

Thank you, Mr.

20:45

Foster.

20:45

The next caller is the final caller is number ending in 124.

20:52

Caller ending in 124.

20:54

You have two minutes.

21:02

Caller ending in 124.

21:08

Yes, may I be heard?

21:10

You can be heard.

21:11

Good morning.

21:11

Yes, ma'am.

21:14

Yeah.

21:14

Um, I agree with the last two callers.

21:17

Um I repeatedly I call in, I raise my hand, and then I have to raise my hand again.

21:26

So for those who are unaware that the constant handling goes down, they will get called on.

21:32

Also, member Callaway, what is the resident supposed to do?

21:38

Besides email, call, show up at public comment, ask for assistance, and then we continue to get ignored.

21:47

That's enormously disrespectful.

21:49

Like Mr.

21:50

Benson, I asked to know is that a data center over at the state fairgrounds?

21:55

Could have been an easy yes or no.

21:57

If you don't know, uh, you might want to learn about your district.

22:01

Also, this committee has oversight of the elections department.

22:06

I asked for help in the elections department because people told some untruth about me, and it prevented me from being hired, but nobody looked into it.

22:15

Nobody looked into it.

22:17

Now, I don't know.

22:19

Maybe I could claim the color card, right?

22:23

But it's not the color card, it's the whether we care enough card.

22:27

And so, what does it take, member Callaway, to get a response?

22:30

So when I've written my own council members, I come to the appropriate committees.

22:34

We got secretly planned on in the in the lower north end.

22:37

That was enormously disrespectful.

22:39

What we've been put through for the last six, seven, eight years has been enormously disrespectful.

22:46

It doesn't follow the charter, and you guys don't even make sure the charter is followed.

22:50

How about nine section nine-405?

22:53

There's so much redundancy that we're paying for, but you guys won't even hold Conrad Mallet to do his job.

23:00

So before you start criticizing residents, especially someone like Mr.

23:05

Rue, who obviously has trauma, and so does the little girl.

23:09

Where is your humanity?

23:12

Thank you, Miss Warwick.

23:14

Um, any other callers?

23:16

That will conclude public comment.

23:18

Thank you, Ms.

23:19

JC.

23:19

You did an amazing job.

23:20

All right, we will move back to and um we are on line item six, unfinished business.

23:30

Line item six point one status of the law department, legal representation and indemnification for construction, inspector Cappy Williams, and lawsuit of citizens united reciprocal exchange.

23:45

Is there a motion to discuss?

23:48

I'm going to defer to the law department, Mr.

23:51

Anderson.

23:52

Through the chair Graham Anderson Law Department, our request is for this item to be removed.

23:56

Okay, is there um a motion to remove line item 6.1 per the law department?

24:02

Hearing no objections that action shall be taken.

24:05

Thank you, Mr.

24:06

Anderson.

24:06

Line item 6.2 is status of council member Mary Waters submitting a memorandum relative to request for information on status of mayoral appointments to the tenants' rights commission.

24:16

Is there a motion for discussion?

24:18

Motion.

24:19

I'm going to defer to the um LPD, Mr.

24:22

King.

24:23

Good morning, madam chair, Edward King, LPD.

24:25

Um, can we have this item brought back in three weeks, please?

24:28

Is there a motion to bring line item 6.2 back in three weeks?

24:32

Hearing no objection, the action shall be taken.

24:34

Thank you, Mr.

24:35

King.

24:36

Line item um new business line item 7.1 submitting a resolution under the law department's settlement and lawsuit of Kenneth Mann versus City of Detroit.

24:45

Um, and the amount of the settlement is in the amount of sixty thousand dollars.

24:51

Is there a motion?

24:53

Motion to approve some approval.

24:55

Hearing no objections that action shall be taken.

25:00

Settlement in lawsuit of Lavon Hill versus the City of Detroit.

25:03

Walter Bates and Frazier Adams.

25:06

Case number 25-10280.

25:10

File number L two five-000 seven six JLA.

25:15

Police department in the amount of four thousand dollars.

25:19

Is there a motion to discuss?

25:21

Motion.

25:22

I'm going to defer to the law department.

25:25

Through the chair, Graham Anderson Law Department.

25:34

Is there a motion to bring line item 7.2 back in one week?

25:38

Motion.

25:38

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

25:40

Thank you, Mr.

25:41

Anderson.

25:42

Line item 7.3 in the lawsuit of Eric Lloyd versus Auto Club Group Insurance Company.

25:50

Case evaluation and the amount of $15,000.

25:54

Is there a motion?

25:57

Motion to approve the formal.

25:59

Okay.

26:00

Um motion to approve line item 7.3.

26:03

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

26:06

Line item Madam Chair, excuse me for interrupting.

26:09

Yes, Ms.

26:10

Powers.

26:12

It's necessary for you to say to and send a formal session for any of the line items, not just uh um as I I could barely hear Mr.

26:20

Benson, but I he said um uh approve.

26:24

Um but it's necessary for the chair to say send a formal session.

26:28

Got it.

26:28

Thank you.

26:29

Thank you, Miss Powers.

26:30

Point of information, and thank you, Dr.

26:32

Powers.

26:33

Member Benson, so my motions have been um motion to approve and send a formal.

26:39

Okay, it as I'm sorry, sir.

26:41

As I say, it's very hard to hear with the mics.

26:43

Understandable.

26:44

I brought the mic closer to my body.

26:46

Thank you.

26:47

Yeah, it's just the chair needs to state it.

26:50

Thank you, sir.

26:51

Thank you, and I shall.

26:52

Thank you.

26:52

Thank you, Miss Powers.

26:54

Line item 7.4, submitting a resolution authorizing a legal representation and indemnification for police officer Dorian Howard Hardy in lawsuit of Ladonna Crutchfield versus the City of Detroit.

27:08

Can we have a motion to consolidate 7.47.7 7.8 7.910 and 12?

27:16

Motion.

27:17

Okay.

27:19

And I'm going to ask and also a motion for discussion.

27:23

Motion.

27:24

Okay.

27:24

There's a motion for discussion.

27:26

Um, Mr.

27:27

Anderson, this is 7.4, 7.7, 7.8, 9, 10, and 12.

27:34

You have anything you want to add to that, Mr.

27:36

Anderson, before we move it.

27:37

Nope, through the chair, not at this time, council member.

27:40

Okay, thank you.

27:40

Is there a motion to move this these line items to formal with a recommendation to approve?

27:46

Madam Chair, discussion.

27:47

Discussion, sir.

27:48

Can you please just summarize what those line items represent?

27:51

Okay, this absolutely.

27:53

The plaintiff uh was arrested by police officer at her home.

27:56

After further investigation, through the chair, if I may.

27:59

Yes.

27:59

Okay that's why I was calling on you.

28:01

Thank you.

28:02

Uh Graham Anderson Law Department.

28:04

This is regarding a dispute of the facts whether there was a lawful arrest in this case, in the opinion of the law department and the Detroit Police Department.

28:16

The officers were acting in a good faith performance of their duties.

28:20

Thus, we are recommending approval for their representations and indemnifications.

28:25

And for all of those items, correct?

28:28

Correct.

28:28

And so what I was looking for is just a brief summary.

28:31

These are all indemnifications and representation cases.

28:34

We don't need to go into each individual one.

28:35

We just wanted the public to know what we're moving as a bulk.

28:40

Thank you.

28:41

Thank you.

28:41

Motion.

28:42

Thank you.

28:43

There's been a motion to move line item seven, and they're all related to the same matter.

28:47

Line item 7.4, 7.7, 7.8, 7.9, 7.10, and 7.12.

28:56

Move it to formal with a recommendation to approve.

29:00

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

29:05

Line item 7.5, legal representation and indemnification for detective Donald Upshaw and lawsuit of DeMarc DeMarchiano H.

29:15

Page versus Regina Christine Castro.

29:20

Case number 24 C V 10074.

29:28

This is um against the police department.

29:31

Um is there a motion for uh motion to discuss?

29:35

Motion.

29:36

Mr.

29:36

Anderson through the chair, I have nothing to add at this time.

29:41

Pardon me?

29:42

I have nothing to add at this time.

29:43

Okay, is there a motion to move line item 7.5 to formal with the recommendation to approve?

29:48

Motion.

29:49

Okay, hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

29:53

We are now at line item 7.6.

30:00

Legal representation and indemnification for police officer Demetrius Curtis in lawsuit of Jason Powell Mitchellac versus the City of Detroit.

30:10

Case number 25-CV-11257.

30:16

L25-7908 and then double A and then A3700 for police officer Demetrius Curtis.

30:32

And can we also have a motion to combine line item 7.6 with line item 7.11?

30:39

They are related.

30:40

Motion.

30:41

There's a motion to combine line item 7.6 with line item 7.11.

30:47

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

30:50

Can we also have a motion to move it to formal with a recommendation to approve?

30:54

Motion.

30:55

There's been a recommendation to move line item 7.6 and 11, 7.11 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

31:02

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

31:05

We've already taken action on line item 7.7.

31:09

7.8 and 7.9, which takes us to 7.10, I do believe.

31:15

No, and we've also taken action on line item 7.10, which moves us to line item 7.11.

31:23

13.

31:25

7.11.

31:26

13.

31:28

Who does 11?

31:29

No, we did um line item 7.4.

31:32

We combined it.

31:34

Okay, so now we are.

31:36

That's why I don't like combining.

31:38

But um line item 7.13.

31:43

Uh legal representation and identification for Sergeant Olando Doveen Harper in lawsuit of Bessie Yvonne Stewart versus the City of Detroit.

31:54

Um is there a motion to discuss?

31:58

Motion.

31:58

Okay.

31:59

Um Mr.

32:00

Anderson.

32:01

Through the chair, uh, we'd ask for a uh bring back uh TBD to uh bring this matter into closed session.

32:07

Okay, is there a motion to bring this back for a date to be determined to decide whether or not this is um an item that we should put into closed session?

32:15

Motion okay, there's a motion to bring back line at item 7.13, date to be determined in consideration of um scheduling a closed session.

32:27

Thank you so much.

32:28

Thank you.

32:28

Line item 7.14, submitting a resolution authorizing settlement and lawsuit of McCann Renard McCann versus the City of Detroit, case number 24012010 NI.

32:43

File number L24-01253 S V D200, Department of Transportation and the total amount of 255,000 dollars in full payment for any and all claims.

33:06

Is there a motion?

33:08

Motion to approve informal.

33:09

There's a motion to approve line item 7.14.

33:13

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

33:17

Line item 714 will go to formal with a recommendation to approve without objection.

33:24

Line item 715.

33:28

Settlement and lawsuit of Navit Solutions LLC Rapid RX Pharmacy, Andre Jones versus the City of Detroit.

33:38

Case number 25-16458-GC.

33:44

File number L25-8035 CLR Department of Transportation and the amount of 2861 dollars will be full payment for all for any and all claims.

33:56

Is there a motion?

33:58

Motion to approve and send to formal.

34:00

There's a motion to approve and send to formal line item 7.15.

34:05

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

34:08

Line item 7.16.

34:10

Submitting a resolution authorizing settlement and lawsuit of Bloomfield Hill Surgery Center, LLC, Renard McCann versus the City of Detroit.

34:22

This is another Department of Transportation case in the amount of $25,000 for full payment for any and all claims.

34:33

Is there a motion?

34:35

Motion to approve and send a formal.

34:37

There's a motion to approve and to send to formal line item 7.16.

34:42

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

35:00

Case number 24-000920-NF file number L24-00801 SVD A2000, Department of Transportation, settlement amount and the amount of 45,000 dollars.

35:17

Is there a motion?

35:19

Motion to approve is into formal.

35:21

There's a motion to approve and send a formal line item 7.17, hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

35:27

Line item 7.18 settlement in the lawsuit of Damon Ash versus the City of Detroit case number 24-005852-NI file number L24-00936 CLR police department and the amount of $67,500.

35:48

Is there a motion?

35:49

Motion to approve us into formal.

35:55

There's a motion to approve and send to formal line item 7.18.

36:00

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

36:03

We are now at the miscellaneous section of our agenda.

36:07

Line item 7.19.

36:09

Councilmember Waters submitting a memorandum relative to an ordinance requesting amending the tenants rights commission.

36:16

Um is there a motion for discussion?

36:19

Motion.

36:25

Madam Chair, can we have this item brought back in three weeks, please?

36:29

Is there a motion to bring line item 7.19 back in three weeks?

36:33

Motion.

36:33

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

36:36

Thank you, Mr.

36:37

King.

36:38

We are now on line item 7.20.

36:41

Councilmember Gabriella, Santiago Romero submitting a memorandum relative to information regarding AI and Oracle system policies.

36:52

Motion.

36:53

Mr.

36:53

Anderson or Mr.

36:54

King.

36:55

Madam Chair, this item was directed at the do it department.

37:00

Okay.

37:03

So what action do we take?

37:04

Do we ask the clerk to make sure that do it gets this or how does it you could you could bring this item back at your discretion, madam chair?

37:13

Okay.

37:13

So is there a line?

37:15

Um is there a motion to bring this back date to be determined?

37:18

Um member um Benson?

37:20

Motion.

37:21

There's a motion to bring line item 7.2 back, date to be determined.

37:27

Thank you so much.

37:29

And you said this is a do it matter.

37:31

Okay.

37:35

All right.

37:37

Members report.

37:39

Thank you.

37:40

Um through yourself, madam chair, is a representative from the administration available online.

37:47

Okay, if not, if can we have someone on from the administration to come online, please.

37:58

Good morning.

38:01

Good morning, madam chair.

38:03

I'm looking through our list of participants currently.

38:07

Thank you.

38:12

I guess that would be Miss Sullivan or Mr.

38:16

Washington.

38:18

Um Miss Sullivan is online.

38:19

I've prompted her to start her camera, but I'm promoting Malik Washington to panelists.

38:24

Okay, Miss Mr.

38:25

Um Washington and Miss Sullivan.

38:43

Mr.

38:44

Washington.

38:51

Madam Chair, it seems like both individuals have dropped from the Zoom call.

38:56

Okay, can we get a phone call through to them and I will um do my best.

39:02

Okay, thank you.

39:05

Madam Chair, that I'm going to make a request through yourself to LPD, and we'll follow up with the memo of my staff can take note of this, please.

39:13

I'd like to start maintaining a record of times and dates of poor behavior by our public commenters.

39:24

Today's behavior to me is it achieved a level of antisocial behavior, disrespect, as well as some concerns regarding mental health.

39:34

And so I'm going to ask that we start to keep a record of when behavior reaches that level.

39:40

The vile disgusting language used, the vile disgusting comments directed towards members of this body to me crosses a line, and I have a level of concern.

39:51

We're seeing a greater level of open disrespect and disregard for our elected officials, which has now crossed line to dangerous behavior where people have been assaulted, unfortunately have lost their lives based on their public service.

40:00

We're seeing a greater level of open disrespect and disregard for our elected officials, which has now crossed the line to dangerous behavior where people have been assaulted, unfortunately have lost their lives based on their public service, and that type of behavior is where it starts.

40:08

And so we need to start tracking that and keeping a record.

40:12

There is a dotted line that can be crossed when people can be removed from this process if you continue to display that.

40:22

And that's a motion, Madam Chair, for an assignment to LPD.

40:29

Motion.

40:31

Mr.

40:31

Um Keller, Mr.

40:33

King, you have the assignment.

40:35

Okay.

40:35

Hearing objections, that action shall be taken on your motion.

40:38

And then once we do achieve somebody from the administration, I like for them to request from the Detroit Health Department information regarding mental health support services that we offer here in the city of Detroit.

40:53

There has been a greater level of emphasis placed here, and we see it play itself out in a very negative way in these chambers on a regular basis, which to me not only endangers the members of this body, but those who sit in the gallery.

41:06

And they will be the first ones that could be targeted by someone who has ill intent or ill means.

41:12

And so I want to make sure that we provide those type of services to people who may be suffering or having some type of incident or are in need of services.

41:21

We should not downplay this.

41:23

We should take this type of behavior seriously because it can escalate quickly and people's lives can be in danger, and they have been placed in danger.

41:32

And in other instances, it may just be attention seeking, or I just want to be disrespectful, and this is the way I get attention.

41:42

But I often also say very rarely have I ever been approached publicly with this level of disrespect.

41:53

Doing it in these confines is a very safe space to disrespect somebody.

41:58

Out on the street, it is a very different story.

42:01

And I have never been approached in that manner.

42:04

People will threaten all day long, they will disrespect here because they know that they are safe.

42:09

In the streets, it's a different matter.

42:11

And so we need to honor and respect this is a place of work.

42:16

This is not the street corner.

42:18

This is not your local bar.

42:20

This is a place of work, and our employees and our elected officials deserve a certain level of respect and decorum.

42:29

And people and representatives and members of the public should also comport themselves, and we should have a level of expectation how you comport yourselves in public in these halls in this body, which is taxpayer funded, that you should not have to come to work and experience that.

42:45

That is violent, disgusting language, and I wouldn't tolerate it at my home.

42:48

If you were to come and approach me in that matter on the street, it would be a much different story than what you see here in these August halls.

42:57

And I hope that people get the message.

43:25

Thank you, Mr.

43:26

Um.

43:26

I thank you, Member Benson.

43:28

Also I want to take that further.

43:29

Um I'm gonna ask LPD and law.

43:31

I don't know if you need to work together or if it can be done by each department.

43:35

I'm not sure.

43:36

But we need to have some type of um sign posted outside of the our meeting, um, our meeting space, um, listing the type of behavior that will not be tile tolerated.

43:47

You know how we say no smoking and other things, no alcohol on the premises.

43:53

We need to work on having some type of official sign that dictates the kind of behavior that will or will not be tolerated in these public spaces.

44:02

And I I've seen them other I've seen them in other places.

44:05

We just don't have it.

44:06

And then that's why they um can say, well, it's not listed anywhere.

44:09

I don't see it, I don't see where I can't.

44:11

Well, that disrespectful tone and language should not be that's like profanity.

44:19

Like you can't use profanity, you can't smoke, you can't drink.

44:24

We should have a list, some type of sign posted somewhere where it's visible to the public, so they'll know what will start dictating they be their behavior.

44:35

We think and we assume that they should know, but sometimes people don't know what is proper behavior.

44:41

Perhaps they've never been taught.

44:43

I don't know what the circumstances are behind or around the behavior.

44:47

But I'm asking the law department to look into what we can list in a public space dictating one's behavior.

44:55

The chair, if we could get that in an official memo, that would be fantastic.

44:58

Absolutely.

44:58

You'll get it before the end of the day.

45:00

Thank you.

45:00

I've seen these signs posted everywhere.

45:02

You can see them in um, you know, in airports and other public venues, but not here.

45:07

So you can come in here and you think you can act anyway, but I think we need to list it, and you'll get that memo by the end of the day.

45:13

Thank you, Mr.

45:13

Anderson, and thank you, Member Benson.

45:15

It's a very serious matter.

45:17

Madam Chair.

45:18

Yes, sir.

45:18

Also make it very clear.

45:19

What I'm not saying is that you cannot be mean, you cannot say things that we don't like.

45:26

But there is a line that should not be crossed.

45:29

And as a public official, people say terrible things about you all the time.

45:33

It's just part of the job.

45:35

But there is a line that should not be crossed, and we need to address that.

45:40

Yep.

45:40

And I'm hoping that's signed if we can get that done, those items that cross the line or potentially cross the line, because we know the do's and don'ts of public uh behavior.

45:50

We know the do's and don'ts.

45:51

And I think I don't know if Oak Park has it, but I will do my due diligence and look for where I've seen it posted in public spaces, and I'll provide that to you.

46:00

It is being done.

46:01

It is being done.

46:02

So thank you so much.

46:04

Madam Chair, excuse me if you're interrupting.

46:06

Ms.

46:06

Powers.

46:08

Um if that's an assignment for LPD, um, you Mr.

46:12

Benson should give you a motion for that, please.

46:15

Thank you.

46:16

Um, member Benson.

46:17

Well, the first one we did, madam parliamentary.

46:20

Yeah, I I know, yes, sir.

46:22

I understand, but member Callaway then asked for um additional uh a sign and so forth to be posted, which is a separate motion.

46:32

Motion.

46:32

Thank you.

46:33

Thank you.

46:33

Thank you.

46:34

Thank you, Miss Powers.

46:35

Thank you, Mr.

46:36

You're welcome.

46:37

Yes, ma'am, thank you.

46:38

All righty.

46:39

Um, members' reports, madam chair.

46:44

No report today.

46:45

Thank you.

46:46

Thank you.

46:47

All right.

46:47

The deadline to apply for the senior citizen solid waste discount is approaching, and it is April the 15th.

46:53

Eligible residents are encouraged to apply soon to ensure the discount is reflected on your summer property tax bills.

47:00

Seniors may receive a 50% reduction in garbage collection fees.

47:05

For more information, you can call 313-224-3560.

47:12

The Department of Public Works has released the 2026 speed hump program list, which includes plans to install 312 new speed humps.

47:22

Residents have until April the 24th to opt out of the program.

47:26

For more information, visit the Detroit Public Works webpage on Detroit Mi.gov and navigate to the complete streets traffic calming section.

47:37

Next, the DPD 12th precinct is hosting an Easter egg hunt in Palmer Park on Saturday, April the 4th, from 11 a.m.

47:46

to 3 p.m.

47:47

Bring it's an entire um citywide event, and we want you to bring all your children so they can have fun hunting for the Easter eggs.

47:56

There will be games, giveaways, food, and lots of family fun.

48:00

All are welcome, but registration is required.

48:04

You have to RSVP.

48:06

Please call Sergeant McGee at 313-596-1221.

48:12

And again, that is our annual Easter egg hunt that is sponsored by the Detroit Police Department 12th precinct.

48:19

The number to call Sergeant McGee is 596-1221.

48:24

We want to make sure we have enough family fund items, so you have to register.

48:30

So we'll be prepared for everyone who's going to come out and enjoy the festivities.

48:35

Lastly, the City Health Department offers free lead testing to reduce toxic lead exposure among Detroiters, not just children, but among Detroiters, adults as well.

48:46

We want to know whether or not you're living in a house that has lead-based paint.

48:50

We want your children and you to get tested.

48:52

Please call 313-876-0133.

48:57

And that completes my member's report.

48:59

Without objection, is there a motion to adjourn the committee meeting?

49:03

There's been a motion to adjourn.

49:06

Without

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Summary of Proceedings

Detroit City Council Internal Operations Committee Meeting - March 25, 2026

The Detroit City Council Internal Operations Committee met on March 25, 2026, with Chair Angela Whitfield Callaway presiding. Councilmembers present: Angela Whitfield Callaway, Scott Benson; Renata Miller was excused. The meeting included public comments, discussion of litigation and settlement items, and a focus on addressing disruptive behavior in the chambers.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • In-Person Comments:
    • Mr. Cuttingham expressed support for free or reduced bus fares for low-income residents (using Bridge Card) and urged the council to provide bus tickets and validation for residents attending public comment.
    • Mr. Ruben Crowley made disruptive and profane accusations against council members, alleging a cover-up of a murder and referring to council using vulgar language. He was removed from the chamber after a brief recess.
  • Virtual Comments:
    • William M. Davis called for reducing lawsuits against the city, increasing voter turnout, and improving police information sharing per district.
    • Owner Papa criticized the treatment of Black residents, referenced a raid on Councilmember Benson's home, and questioned the city's indemnification practices. She also disparaged Councilmember Benson's past conduct.
    • Betty A. Varner, president of DeSoda Ellsworth Block Association, provided information on the MI Choice Waiver program for seniors and disabled individuals to receive in-home care and become eligible for Medicaid.
    • Foster urged compassion and referenced Martin Luther King Jr., stating that unaddressed grievances can lead to violence, and called on the government to be proactive.
    • A caller ending in 124 complained about being ignored by council, asked whether a data center is planned at the state fairgrounds, and criticized the lack of response to her concerns about the elections department.

Discussion Items

  • Unfinished Business:
    • Line item 6.1 (status of law department representation for inspector Cappy Williams) was removed per the law department.
    • Line item 6.2 (status of memo about mayoral appointments to the tenants' rights commission) was brought back in three weeks.
  • New Business - Settlements:
    • 7.1: Settlement in Kenneth Mann vs. City of Detroit for $60,000 – approved and sent to formal session.
    • 7.2: Settlement in Lavon Hill vs. City of Detroit for $4,000 – brought back in one week.
    • 7.3: Settlement in Eric Lloyd vs. Auto Club Group Insurance for $15,000 – approved.
    • 7.14: Settlement in McCann vs. City of Detroit (transportation) for $255,000 – approved.
    • 7.15: Settlement in Navit Solutions LLC et al. vs. City of Detroit for $2,861 – approved.
    • 7.16: Settlement in Bloomfield Hills Surgery Center et al. vs. City of Detroit for $25,000 – approved.
    • 7.17: Settlement for $45,000 (case details not specified) – approved.
    • 7.18: Settlement in Damon Ash vs. City of Detroit for $67,500 – approved.
  • New Business - Legal Representation and Indemnification:
    • Items 7.4, 7.7, 7.8, 7.9, 7.10, 7.12 (related to a police arrest dispute) were consolidated and approved to formal session with a recommendation to approve. Law department stated officers acted in good faith.
    • 7.5: Representation for detective Donald Upshaw – approved to formal.
    • 7.6 and 7.11: Representation for officer Demetrius Curtis and related case – combined and approved to formal.
    • 7.13: Representation for sergeant Orlando Doveen Harper – brought back to a date to be determined for potential closed session.
  • New Business - Ordinances and Memoranda:
    • 7.19: Councilmember Waters’ memo on an ordinance amending the tenants’ rights commission – brought back in three weeks.
    • 7.20: Councilmember Santiago-Romero’s memo on AI and Oracle system policies – referred to DOIT and brought back date to be determined.

Key Outcomes

  • The committee approved multiple settlements and legal representation items, mostly without objection, moving them to formal session.
  • Councilmember Benson made a motion to start tracking dates and times of disruptive public comment behavior, particularly incidents involving profanity and threats. The motion was referred to LPD (Legislative Policy Division). He also requested information from the health department on mental health support services for the public.
  • Councilmember Callaway directed the law department to research and provide a draft of a sign listing prohibited behaviors in the meeting chamber, to be delivered by end of day.
  • Both motions were passed without objection.
  • Member report announcements included:
    • Deadline for senior solid waste discount (50% reduction on garbage fees) is April 15, 2026; call 313-224-3560.
    • 312 new speed humps planned for 2026; residents can opt out by April 24.
    • DPD 12th precinct Easter egg hunt on April 4, 2026, from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. at Palmer Park; RSVP to Sgt. McGee at 313-596-1221.
    • Free lead testing for Detroiters (children and adults) available through the Health Department at 313-876-0133.

Meeting Transcript

If the clerk could so kindly call the roll. Good morning. Councilman Ramsa Winfield Callaway. Present. Councilmember Scott Benson. Councilmember Renata Miller. She has an excused absence today, sir. The clerk will so note. Madam Chair Dakota. Thank you so much. We have invocation. Miss JC is our um pastor on the line to provide invocation. Good morning, Madam Chair. The pastors here. We have Rev. Dr. Melvin Andrew Davis from New Prospect Missionary Baptist Church. Good morning, Reverend Davis. How are you? Good morning, uh, Councillor Callaway. I'm well. Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we thank you today for the gift of leadership and for the opportunity to serve our community. We lift up our council member Angela Whitfield Callaway and her entire team before you. Lord, grant them the wisdom to make sound decisions, courage to stand for what is right, and the compassion for the people they have been called to serve. Lord God, their conversations and their planning and their work today so that it leads to peace, progress, and the common good for all. In your holy name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor Davis, and welcome again to Detroit. We are so happy that you are the leader of new um Prospect Missionary Baptist Church on the corner of Pembroke and Livernoy and Stopo. Um I love you. Thank you so much for the welcome. Absolutely. I tried to get you to get that nine million dollar um bishop mansion over there. Remember, we talked about that when I came to the church a few months back when you first came to the channel. If it's not it, if it's not purchased, we'll get it soon. Well, guess what? Guess what, Pastor Davis? It sold for $800,000 about two months ago. It was missed for $9 million about 18 months ago, and just recently it sold for I think was $800,000. So we've missed our opportunity. Oh, we pray for another one. Lord, that's a miracle. It is a miracle. But thank you so much, and I'll see you at church service real soon. God bless you. All right. It's from Alabama, and that church had um didn't have a permanent pastor after the passing of Wilma. The community, but he is doing an amazing job.

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