Six for the purposes of our budget hearings and executive session.

Mr.

Clerk, good afternoon.

Would you please call the roll?

Good afternoon, Councilmember Scott Benson.

Scott Benson and I.

Councilmember Daniel McCampbell.

Present.

Councilmember Renata Miller.

Member Miller indicated that she would be absent today, so our absence is excused.

The clerk will still note.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

Councilmember Gabriel Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present.

Councilmember Angel Whitfield Calloway.

Council President Pro Tem Callman Young the second.

Council President James Tate.

Here.

Mr.

President, there's a quorum.

Thank you, every quorum, which means we're now back in session.

And I believe Mr.

Corley, we left off on number 52 on page four.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon.

Okay, yes, page four.

Line 52.

We're now in the health department.

Urge coordination between DPW police and health department to work together to identify crime hot spots and prioritize resources.

She hasn't arrived yet, but we'll put a pin in that one, please.

Okay.

Line 53, health department.

Include mental behavioral health services at recreation centers and other areas in the city of Detroit.

And Councilmember McCammel.

Yes, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

We're still looking to get some dollar amounts for that.

We've got to work with multiple departments health as well as uh general services.

So we can put a pen in that one, please.

Okay.

Thank you.

Line 54 health.

Hold a discussion about a research study on the effects of COVID 19 in the city of Detroit.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

I want to definitely put this one in closing resolution.

There may be some dollar amount that will be uh requested for executive session.

The reason I bring this up is because during COVID, um, which you know feels like it's been a long time, but it really hasn't been.

Um, there were a number of hot spots around the city.

Um, and some of those hot spots didn't necessarily correlate with you know simple poverty, it didn't correlate with you know filling the blank.

There was again no, it didn't feel like there was rhyme or reason when we saw these hot spots.

Um, and I know that the state of Michigan did provide a disparity report.

Um, and I would like to know what we did with the information as it relates to the city of Detroit.

I have not seen any uh indication that we've done so.

I've actually had this in the uh previous closing resolution and didn't see any movement on it.

Uh so right now I would like to uh put this item into closing resolution.

We'll get better language, but there may be a resurrection into the executive session for a dollar amount, but at this moment, uh request uh to uh a motion for a closing resolution for line item 54, colleagues, please.

Motion as a motion for closing resolution uh language for line item 54.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Thank you, colleagues.

Mr.

Clerk, if you can note that we've been joined by member Callaway as well.

Clerk will still note.

Thank you.

Line item 55.

Yes, health increased budget for advertisement and funding for the childhood-led prevention program.

Councilmember Callaway.

I know Member Callaway just arrived, so we can uh give her an opportunity to sit down and get her bearings and go to line number 56, please.

Health again.

Um conduct health studies for a greater understanding and to determine if additional financial support is needed.

Umber Johnson, I hear yet.

Councilmember Santa Romero.

All right, I think she was joined by member Santiago Romero, so we can pin that item for to allow member Johnson to arrive, please.

Okay.

Um 57 close uh resolution.

Um coordinate between the health department, the DGZ, DEGC, that's the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation, and Detroit at work to partner and provide training information for the dining with confidence training program to all city food service organizations.

Um we got here 3400 uh balance from the 1900 only receiving annual inspections to ensure they know about the program.

Umber Benson motion to approve strengthen that language on closing resolution.

There is a motion for approval for the closing resolution language on line item 57.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 58.

Increase is health increased budget by 250,000 for family sustenance misuse revenue from 2% um that is mandated by law uh to 10% uh revenue budgeted in the non-departmental department.

Uh this is the state share marijuana excise types revenue uh and uh the 250,000 would be transferred to the health department.

Um Callaway.

All right, uh member Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 58, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 59, health department data center moratorium request strongly urge the Detroit Health Department to participate in the City of Detroit regulation development with city data center stakeholders.

Uh that would include business, labor, utilities, uh CBC and PDD to help the city to provide regulations to protect and provide a level of rules for any new data centers that come into the city of Detroit.

Um Benson, Councilmember Callaway, has member McCampbell.

Yes, yes, sir.

Member Benson move this item, Member Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve the closing resolution language for line item 59, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Okay, steel health department line 60.

Compliment to the proposed ordinance on the safe storage of cannabis products, edibles, uh, gummy bears, so on and so on.

Out of the reach of children, 75,000 to purchase child resistance and locked safety containers similar to gun locks provided by Wayne County for cannabis products.

Councilmember McCalloway.

Um thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Um 75,000 in the executive session and the language to closing resolution for this line item.

Thank you.

Uh with discussion, Member Callaway.

I and I know there are some folks who are very anti-cannabis here, uh, but there's I think it's uh these bags are very um beneficial for all types of contraband or any type of prescription medication as well.

So would you be willing to amend the language to uh indicate um uh like non-medicinal yeah uh well because depending on who you talk to, okay so cannabis also fills that that space as well so for substances that are uh medical and non-medical uh substances you can finalize that language.

Just want to keep it not just narrowly tailored towards cannabis because again, this is I think is appropriate for Vicadon and Oxy and all those things as well.

That's that's acceptable to me.

Okay, I mean you know that's a good yeah, okay.

It's fine if you want to provide the language or uh we can work together together.

Absolutely.

Ms.

President, excuse me.

So um we got 75,000 as recurring.

Is that is that or is this one time?

I I'm thinking one time, and let's just see what happens because I know there's through the chair to you, Mr.

Corley, and to Mr.

Johnson from um budget.

I know there's uh um a bucket of money through um the sale of cannabis at the state level.

I don't know what that percentage is.

I don't know if it's three to ten percent that we already get.

I think um I don't know if that goes to CREO, I'm not sure because I know they have a department that addresses something similar to this, and I understand they were also giving out some storage containers.

Um I found that a little found that out over the weekend.

So um I want to say just first time, let's see.

It's a pilot.

This is like a pilot program.

We may not have to have it recurring, you may have another institution to come in and support this with some donations, but I'm thinking as a pilot, just one time.

Thank you.

Just one time.

Mr.

Chair, did you use a motion on the floor?

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 61 steel health coordination between the Detroit Health Department and workforce development to build towards a more sustainable behavioral health workforce in Detroit.

Examples include providing incentive or pro programs to encourage frontline employees to both live and continue providing affordable and accessible care in Detroit.

Councilmember McCampbell.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to approve for close the resolution.

There's a motion for approval for the closing resolution language on line item 61.

Discussion.

Is that what we're looking at there?

Member McCampbell.

For Member Benson.

So this is to um yes, this is for behavioral health providers.

So to make to get us more providers in the city of Detroit.

So want the health department and the workforce development folks to work together to see how we can build up that workforce here in the city.

Thank you.

Thank you.

If you can note Mr.

Corley.

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

Colleagues, any objections from line item 61.

See none, that action shall be taken.

Um if you would indulge me, so that's please go back to line item 60.

I know council approved the dollar amount.

I'm not sure if you approve the closing resolution piece of it.

So if council can please um take a motion to member Callaway, would like to know that was your item.

Yes.

Um motion to resolution.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Motion to approve $55,000 one time for the um purchase of safe storage containers for cannabis um like products.

Okay.

So I'm sorry, Ms.

President.

So that part council did approve.

Yeah, it's the closing resolution piece of it.

I don't think they yeah.

We have the language, and we're just going to tweak it a little bit with um President Tate's office.

Right?

So it's going to motion to move to closing resolution.

Yep.

Any objections, colleagues?

See none, that action shall be taken.

And then Mr.

Chair, if I might.

Um, Member Callaway.

Line item 55.

I was just coming to the table, and we said we would come back to this.

Do you want to do that now before we proceed?

Uh sure.

I was gonna give uh start at the very top with 52.

Member Johnson also needed to uh chime in as well on her.

So if you don't mind, if we can just go straight to the top and go down and hit the ones that are empty.

Mr.

Corley, start at the top of 52, please.

Okay.

Um that's still health department line 52.

Urge coordination between DPW, police and health department to work together to identify crime hot spots and prioritize resources.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Mr.

Corley, the health department on here should actually be stricken, and that should be the planning and development department.

It and the planning department should be the lead agency.

Um we're still waiting to hear back from them as to whether or not there are any dollars associated with this.

So I would like to uh pin this.

Um with discussion, Member Johnson.

Uh again, line item 52.

You're saying you're taking out health and replacing it with PDD?

Yes.

Um can you explain?

I'm I'm lost, so that may be me.

Yes, so it was really about um crime prevention through environmental design, septed practices.

So um really asking for the planning department to lead the way in um crime hot spots and septed and um helping to implement that with the various departments.

Gotcha now.

Thank you so much.

All right, colleagues.

Uh line item 52.

Any objection?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, so so I'm sorry, Mr.

President.

So we do not have a pin for line item 52.

I thought member Johnson said you wanted a pendant.

Oh, you want dependent?

Oh, yeah.

I'm sorry.

There's a motion to there's a requested pin that uh line item 52.

Okay, no objections that action shall be taken.

Line item 53.

No, uh 55, Mr.

President Discussion, point of information.

Member Benson.

What was the disposition of 53?

Uh it's pinned.

Yep.

Uh Mr.

Cor Mr.

Whitaker.

Yeah.

Uh 52 was was a was closing resolution though approved.

There was closing resolution, correct?

Member Johnson.

Yes.

Yes, Mr.

Chair.

Yes.

The pin for um additional information from the department as it relates to funding.

Ms.

President, you called him Mr.

Corley.

I'll take the white hair.

Both y'all smooth.

All right.

Uh line 55.

Um so yeah, um, increase the budget for advertisement and funding for the childhood led permission program.

That was council member Callaway.

Yes.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Um, we'll provide the language for the closing resolution, urging the administration through HRD and health, because the program actually um was housed in HRD with Mr.

Rico Razo.

So urging the administration um partnering with both departments, HRD and Health to increase the awareness and education of um childhood led prevention.

Um and the amount, I'm not sure.

So we'll let's just take a move to take it over to um closing resolution, and then we'll have conversations with Mr.

Rico Razo a little later today or tomorrow regarding whether or not uh additional funds are needed because I know $500,000 is being rolled over to this new year because that's what he had left over from the two million dollars that we put into the budget last year.

So until we have those conversations, it can rest in the closing resolution with the language that I just provided.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor.

Any objections?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

That's for the closing resolution portion.

Uh for the uh dollar amount again, it is being pinned at this moment.

Okay.

Line uh 56.

Conduct health studies for a greater understanding and to determine if additional financial support is needed.

Umber Johnson and Councilmember Tantego Romero.

Councilmember Johnson.

Item 56.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um we are still reaching out to the health department.

I know the health department indicated that they had just done a study.

Um so we're just trying to understand what has come out of that study to determine if there's any additional information or financing that's needed.

So you want to pin?

So request a pin.

Okay.

Request for a pin on line item 56.

Okay, we can go to the next page, page five.

Um at the top, last one for health for now.

Line 62.

Um metrics for CBI groups.

Uh President Tate.

Yep, thank you, sir.

Uh, let's put we're gonna put this in closing resolution and work on the language.

Um, and I'll get that to the body.

The motion, please.

Motion.

Thank you.

There's a motion for closing resolution language for line item 62.

Any objections?

Uh seeing none, that action shall be taken.

All right, we're now going into human resources.

Line 63.

Discussion on looking at contracting services that can be in house.

Council member um McCammel.

McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Could we can I put a pin on this one?

I just want to um double check.

It may be that I just needed to do a department specific as we've done before.

Gotta get there, yeah, sir.

Colleagues has been a request for a pen for line item 63.

All right, line 64 human resources.

The my tri chair program.

Uh-huh.

Um, council member uh calloway and council member Benson.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, I'm going to put a pin in this until I have an opportunity to talk to Mr.

Johnson and uh conversation with Ms.

Denise Starr in terms of the amount that it may be required to even start the program because we know it's a third and a third and a third employee employer and the state of Michigan.

Um assuming the cost of this program to offer it to employees.

So um we'll put some language together for the closing resolution and we'll pin it even further because we don't know the exact amount to support the program, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you so much.

It was a request for a pin uh for both closing resolution and executive session for uh line item 64.

Okay, 65 human resources, city employee parking arrangements.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and motion to remove this item.

Colleagues, there's a motion to remove line item 65 from the spreadsheet.

Any objections?

Yes, ma'am.

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

All right, uh last one for now for human resources, line 66.

Administration to provide Councilmember Callaway's office with a list of city employees who have city vehicles assigned to them and where the vehicles are being parked overnight and mileage and um number two and uh provide a list of city employees who have fuel cards.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Callaway.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'm gonna add a few more items to this insurance and maintenance.

So I'll provide more language for the closing resolution.

I don't know if there it needs to be a dollar amount to to conduct this work.

It could probably um but then again it might be required.

We might can Mr.

Chair, if I might may I um have a ask Mr.

Johnson to chime in if that's okay.

Because I've been talking to him about this for a while.

Yes, Mr.

Johnson.

Through the chair to council member Callaway.

Um so one thing that we know that we need to do is a refreshed fleet assessment, and since we have money in the capital budget for um the fleet, um my intention for the next fiscal year um is to move forward with that, and as part of that exercise, we would also be doing this kind of audit because we would necessarily need to do this kind of audit in order to understand the current state of our fleet.

So I believe the funding is already in there, but I would encourage there to be language in the closing resolution that we continue to have this call it a conversation um about the fleet as we move forward.

Uh the general services department is beginning the process of pulling all the data together that you would like, so I don't think you'll need to wait till next fiscal year to get that.

Um, but um a more comprehensive analysis of the state of the fleet and and where the vehicles are, it it is our intention that that be undertaken in the next fiscal year, and it is budgeted for already in the capital budget.

Okay, that's that's that's awesome.

Mr.

Chair, ma'am.

Uh um the the language is evolving as developing, so um we could put a pin in this in terms of the language for the closing resolution.

I'd like to include some of the language that came from Mr.

Um Donnie Johnson.

Right, colleagues, there's a request to pin line item 66.

Mr.

Corley.

All right.

Um now we enter CRIO.

Um line 67.

Increase the budget by 200,000 for language access program.

Councilmember Santiago Mero.

Member Santiago Romero.

Motion to approve motion to approve.

Colleagues, there's a motion to approve line item 67.

Any objections?

Discussion with discussion, member McCampbell.

Uh thank you.

Uh Member Santiago Rivera would like to join you on this.

Absolutely.

All right.

I would like to join you as well.

Yes, please.

Okay.

And Mr.

President, this is one time.

Well member Santiago Mero.

Through the chair, I believe this will have to be reoccurring.

Um, Mr.

Corley.

What we're trying to do is build capacity and staffing.

And we for now, as our as we're planning, if we wouldn't mind making this reoccurring.

Um would also like to move the amounts to 250.

So two 250,000 was the original motion for language access.

This would be reoccurring.

Uh, this can be changed to one time uh, but let me just check with CREO.

Um, because we're also debating whether or not this should be moved into the Office of Immigrant Affairs.

I really don't know.

Um, but for now, if we can make this 250 uh reoccurring, Mr.

President.

Uh there is a request for uh two hundred an amendment to uh the language in line item sixty-seven to reflect two hundred and fifty thousand dollars reoccurring.

Colleagues, are there any objections?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, also Creole line 68.

Increase budget by 100,000 for a study to identify minority businesses that could potentially become vendors with the city that would be based on the service or product that they offer.

Council members, uh council member uh waters and council member um Miller, member waters.

All right, thank you, Mr.

President.

Um this is a one-time one-time study.

The purpose is to try to in and increase minority business participation.

Okay.

There's a request for an approval for line item 68, colleagues.

Any objection?

Mr.

Here, yes, um, sorry with discussion, Mr.

Johnson.

Yeah, so um, so this item, you know, I think this is something that we already do.

This is part of what the procurement office already does.

It's part of our minority outreach program.

Um, I don't think we need to add more money to the budget for this.

The procurement staff is doing regularly doing um fairs and other outreach opportunities for minority businesses and women owned businesses in Detroit.

Um, so you know, 100,000.

I don't know that this is really going to result in anything more than what we've already been doing.

Uh member Waters.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um, okay, if you've already been doing it, I need to see it, number one.

But number two, I really want to tailor this.

Um, now that I've thought about it, to I want to know who is headquartered here in this city.

I I'm going somewhere with that a little bit later, but I want to know how many minority businesses are headquartered here in this city.

Uh, through the chair, um, I think that this can be accomplished with the existing procurement staff.

I think they can do that kind of analysis because we have a lot of that information in our procurement database.

I really don't think more dollars are needed.

I think it's a charge to the staff that they need to prepare this kind of report.

Okay.

Because a lot of this data does exist for us.

All right.

Well, okay.

If if you say you can get it done, I'll trust that you will.

And so I'm gonna place this in closing resolution.

Uh, Mr.

President.

Okay.

And is that also removing the request for 100,000?

Yes.

All right.

Yes.

So two different motions or one motion.

Um, we're gonna first start with uh there is a request for uh an amendment uh to the language in line item 68 to remove the 100,000 dollar amount.

Any objections?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

Member Waters also indicated that you would like to place a line item 68 into the closing resolution, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um still Crio line 69.

Continue discussion about the language excess contractor used for translation services.

Determine if the service could be brought in bounds.

Um Tiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Would like to pin this.

Uh we have been notified by many members of our immigration uh community that they would like for us to change the contractor that we're working with for language access.

Um, I believe they want to see something, uh, someone closer to the city.

Uh so just a pen.

We can work on this this week and should have more for you um by mid this week.

All right, there's a motion to pin line item 69, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Okay, still creo last one for creole for now.

Line 70.

Increase the budget in CRO by 350,000 for a disparity study.

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, I don't know if increase is the right word.

Um, Mr.

Corley, and I I I say that because this was approved in 2023, again in 2024, and again in 2025, it was just never used, right?

So would it be an increase or is it just rolling over?

Because he never did the disparity study.

This this honorable body approved that 350 almost three years in a row.

But the former director um just would not do the would not um um get the disparity study done.

So is that an increase or is it a rollover?

Since it was already approved, you know, multiple times in the last couple years through the chair.

Mr.

President, so if any dollars that council put, member calloway, any dollars that were put into the current fiscal year, that money could be used, hopefully.

Any dollars put into the budget prior to the current fiscal year.

Unfortunately, that probably went to surplus.

You know, if it's not spent, it's gonna, you know, it's gonna go to general funds surplus.

They they don't roll over, you know.

Um items that council unfortunately items that council put money towards um they do not roll those over.

Okay, so um through the chair to yourself, Mr.

Corley.

I'm gonna put a pin in this because I need to have a conversation with the new director, Attorney Jade Um Mathis, because she and I talked about this, and we'll see if this is the route that she wants to pursue.

If not, then I will be um more than happy to remove it.

But I just want to have that discussion with her.

So we'll put a pin in this um okay until um I've had a conversation with um attorney Mathis.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Thank you.

That was a request for a pen for line item 70.

Discussion.

With discussion, Member Santiago Romero.

Do you member Calloway?

Just a reminder, what is the suspicion study for again?

Um, well, it seems like we have a really um we have difficulty um awarding contracts to black women and black people in a predominantly black city.

And we um just just a lot of difficulties, a lot of barriers because we don't want to be in violation of any federal laws or national laws with respect to discrimination in contracting.

But um they're doing something different in Atlanta where they're able to secure contracts for minorities, um, black people in that city, and they don't seem to be experience the same barriers and roadblocks that we seem to experience here in Detroit.

I had an opportunity to go to Philly with some of my colleagues, and they're doing a tremendous job with awarding contracts to women and and African Americans.

So I just wanted to the disparity study is just to serve that purpose.

How do we overcome the barriers that we are encounter every try every time we try to award um black women and black people in the city contracts?

We go outside of the city, we don't have a problem with going to Canada and New Jersey and all these other places, but we just don't seem to be able to um award contracts to um um black folks in the city.

So that's what the disparity study will will do is just to help us see why we're not being successful in that area, like Philadelphia and Atlanta and Chicago.

That is the purpose of the disparity study.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Member Santiago Mira.

Understood, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Member Callaway.

Um, I wholeheartedly agree.

Um, and we have folks that are um even more set to the side, oftentimes black and brown immigrants.

Um, so if we can also keep this in mind as we're providing opportunities um for all folks that are often left out.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Mr.

Chair, uh member Callaway.

Yeah, I'm very specific about um majority Detroiters when I put this out three years ago.

And so um that's the focus of this, and I'll talk to um attorney Mathis later today regarding um how she wants to um pursue this, even if she may not even want to, but I'll let her know what my vision was when I proposed this almost three years ago.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Um Pro Tim Young.

Yeah, I would just uh listening to this uh discussion.

I just wanted to say I think one of the things that Atlanta has, they have a central enforcement, so they have the office of contract and compliance, so it kind of acts as a gatekeeper and force the agency.

They have they have mandatory participation goals, not just encouragement, so they set numeric targets for minority participation.

Uh they have a certified certification system who qualifies, they contract structuring on how minorities actually get the work.

Uh doesn't invite minority foreigners, it forces inclusion through contract um design.

Uh they use federal leverage for their disadvantaged business enterprise programs, and they have a pipeline plus an ecosystem building.

It doesn't just stop at contracts, it actually builds capacity, supplier databases for certain certified firms matching between prize and minority vendors and their legal structure, how they avoid lawsuits.

Uh the programs are designed to survive legal scrutiny, it's framed as equal business opportunity or EBO, the not strict racial quotas, supported by disparity studies.

So I think that's why the study would be a good thing.

And use race neutral plus race conscious tools combined, and there are also accountability reforms.

So Atlanta constantly adjusts the system.

So there's simplifying applications, which I think is a tremendous problem in contracting.

Has some 300 questions, auditing participation accuracy, and tracking subcontractor payments to prevent fraud.

So I think those are some of the things they would do.

I hope that would help in what you're trying to do.

I'll just send you this information.

I don't think it's mirror all of it, but I hope that kind of helps what the business between them and us are.

Now, mind you, to be fair, we have a larger issue in terms of poverty.

I think you know, Atlanta, I think it's like 18, 19 percent.

City Detroit is like 31, 34 percent.

So we got a bigger issue poverty-wise, but they have the little bit of things a little bit different to their contractual process.

So I'll send it to and I'm sure uh Miss Ustall will be more than happy to be able to help you with that as well.

Thank you.

Discussion?

I'm done.

Um with discussion, member Callaway.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you so much um to my colleague um pro Tim Um Young.

I lived in Atlanta, went to Spelman, and when I was down there, they were getting ready to build that um international airport, and they named it after Maynard Jackson, who is the son of my professor of English, Dr.

Dobbs Um Jordan.

Um so um they stopped the building of the airport until they included African American um construction workers.

They said you're not gonna lay another brick, you're not gonna lay any contract until you include minorities in the whole scheme of things.

So if you read the story about that, um, they were able to bypass some of the other requirements, and the the majority of the contractors said okay, because they wanted to continue to build, but the the work was stopped until they included minority subcontractors on that airport, which is an amazing airport, and is probably ranked in the top five across the country, the international airport named after Maynard Jackson.

So it can be done, but there just has to be a a will to get it done.

We can get it done.

It's getting done across the country, but we need to um get it done here in the city of Detroit, which is a predominantly African American city, the last time I checked.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

All right.

If I can note that this item has been pinned, so it is coming back, so we're gonna be dealing with it later.

Line item 71, Mr.

Corley.

Yes.

Um real quick, um, President Tate.

Um, my staff has wonderfully put the executive sessions spreadsheet on the screen for citizens to also look at.

So really thank them for doing that.

Great job.

And in particular, the um this new department, we starting with the new department at line 71.

So HFS is the acronym for human homeless family services.

And just to remind the city council, um, as you know, there's a uh executive organization plan, EOP that's currently before you to stand up this department.

Um, and council needs to vote on that by April the 7th.

And uh just uh you know humbly reminder, council members if you have any changes that you would like to make to the EOP, you know, you probably want to suggest doing that by tomorrow during the formal session, you can walk it on.

You may want to hear from Mr.

Whitaker as well on that, but you know, time is of the essence right now in the EOP.

If there's gonna be any changes to it, it you know, council needs to take it up.

Well, as we say that I have a document in my hand right now, Mr.

Whitaker has put together a resolution that will be coming before this body and going uh walked on.

But uh Mr.

Whitaker, if you can talk, I think you may have received three or or so items, two?

Yes, two Mr.

President.

Mr.

Whitaker.

We did receive two uh suggestion changes to the EOP, one coming from your office and one coming from Mr.

McCampbell's office, but none other.

I I don't know if there are other suggested changes for the EOP that come this forthcoming from the other offices, but to date we only have the two, and the two are two suggested changes are reflected in the resolution that we circulated earlier today.

Okay, and Mr.

Whitaker, based on uh the way that the process works, uh if there are no other recommendations, or let's say there are some others, it now goes to the administration.

Administration then provides us with another EOP amended, excuse me, EOP.

Right.

Uh is it then required for another public hearing to take place?

I I don't believe so at the at the area.

You should check with law to be certain on this because it it isn't within their um province to determine whether another uh uh public hearing is necessary, but I think of the two suggestions that you made, I I don't think it would require that because you're talking only name changes.

You're not talking about really any substantive changes.

I think Mr.

McCampbell's switching the the immigrant affairs from the mayor's office to to CREO, I believe, uh should not be that disturbing to the overall scheme that the administration has set forth.

But but the law department should opine on that.

But it's but I think it would certainly, because the bulk of the changes are dealing with with uh the department that you're now you know that's under discussion now.

So I think I think that's really the most significant aspect of it and why the importance of approving it really before you approved it the budget, so the department is stood up before you fund it.

Right.

Mr.

Whitaker, would you uh be willing to have that conversation with the law department and bring that back for us?

I'd be very happy to.

Okay, thank you.

I've started the conversation some time ago, but I think we do need a definitive word on it.

Okay, thank you so much, sir.

All right, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, line 71.

H HFS, coordinate between the Health Department, B seed and Wayne County to create an air monitoring and facility dashboard.

Um Johnson, Councilmember Sonica Ramiro, Councilmember McCampbell, Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

This is um the department has technology to that they're already utilizing.

We're just asking for them to get the data from various entities like just air.

Um the county has air monitor, so we're just trying to compile all of the data.

We believe the uh department, probably a previous department that's going to feed information to HHFS has all of the technology that they need.

So I'd like to motion to add this to the closing resolution with that understanding.

All right.

Uh there's a request, colleagues, for line item 71 to be placed into the closing resolution.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 72, HHFS.

Increase the proposed 2027 budget by a million dollars to support the life and legacy program.

Continue support for the life and legacy program.

Moving forward.

Councilmember um Benson.

That's a mo uh member Benson.

Motion to approve.

It's a motion to approve line item 72.

Um let's deal with them uh individually.

I know first of all, you it also says here closing resolution, Member Benson.

Yes.

All right.

There's a motion for the closing resolution, colleagues.

Any objections seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Now let's deal with the dollar amount of one million dollars.

Uh is there a motion on the floor, Member Benson?

Mr.

President, that's one time.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, for one time.

Mr.

Mr.

President.

Is there a motion on the floor?

Motion.

That's a motion on the floor.

Uh, Mr.

Johnson with discussion.

Through the chair.

Um, the administration would respectfully request that this item be pinned to allow for further conversations with council members' office.

Yeah, I was gonna ask for uh additional information on the status of how the program is going currently.

I think that's imperative.

Uh I would like to know that.

Uh member Benson, would you be willing to pin this item uh the dollar amount at least for right now to allow for a further discussion?

Not a problem.

All right.

Uh colleagues says a request for a pin for the dollar amount on line item 72.

Any objections?

See none, a pen shall be attached.

All right, line thirty seventy-three, h HFS.

Strongly encourage the city mandate, strongly encouraged the city to mandate that residents participating in home repair programs or other housing initiatives also participate in the life and legacy program.

Councilmember Benson?

Member Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 73 closing resolution language.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 74, HHFS.

Hold a conversation on establishing adjunct fund account to support immigrant legal services and fees.

Councilmember Benson and Councilmember Santiago Ramiro.

Uh Councilmember Benson.

Motion to approve.

It's a motion to approve.

With discussion, uh Member McCampbell.

Sir Wood to join us.

All right.

Further discussion, colleagues.

Member Benson.

So we weren't restricting it to the general fund unless my colleagues agree.

It was really to have the account open to general fund and or other funding sources.

Don't want it to be specifically seen as only general fund.

Discussion.

With further discussion, Member Santiago Ramiro.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Through you to member Benson.

So just for clarity, um 74 is to so we are already the city partners were already working on identifying more funding to support legal fund services currently.

What we are being asked is to put our own money and our own skin in the game to support this legal funds.

But I know the city is not comfortable doing so.

So I thought 74 was to add to closing resolution that we continue to support the efforts of find a finding funding for the legal funds uh support services that are currently going now.

But then to also get us to a point that we're comfortable adding our own general funds money to this fund as well.

If that's what you're thinking, we can work on language together to add this to closing resolution, or we can just try to put this on the budget today.

Discussion member Benson.

So I didn't want to restrict it only to the general fund just because I know there would be some challenges there with lending a credit, but I do want to make sure that we have a conversation about how to actually get to a sustainable account to support in that space.

And so I'm open to all funding sources.

I just didn't want to restrict it to that item to then be rebuffed and have the conversation stopped.

And so I'm open to a very thorough conversation about how can we get there and fund something that's sustainable.

It's my point.

It does, and we are in that uh issue now.

Um and right now what we are doing is we are looking at foundations, uh private donors, uh things like that.

Um so it it's all of it.

It's it's identifying any source of funding to to support this, and that can be a part of the the the closing resolution.

It is it is all inclusive, not just general fund funding.

So so it sounds like you're all on the same page, it's just a matter of just the language.

Uh so uh colleagues, you want to just kind of offline kind of discuss what that language is gonna look like because this is not the final language uh either way, and we have joined it on this one, so do you want to put a pen in it?

Be uh or we can move it move it forward and just work on the T motion to approve and then we link it if we can come back and finalize that.

Gotcha.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion to approve line item 74.

Any of for closing resolution?

Any objection?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 75 HHFS.

Continue support for the zero percent loan program.

Councilmember Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 75, colleagues.

Any objection?

See none that action shall be taken.

Member Benson, I'd like to join you on that one, please.

Support.

Mr.

Corley, if you can note, please.

Okay.

All right, we're on the next page, page six at the top there.

Um still in HHFS.

Um line 76.

Install signs for littering.

Oh, that's removed.

Okay, that's that's removed.

Okay.

77.

Continue funding for the lead-based encapsulation program by rolling forward any remaining balance from the final thousand appropriated in 2026 into next fiscal year.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Callaway.

Thank you so much.

Um Mr.

Corley and Mr.

Chair like to put a pin in um and they're related, line item 77 and 78 regarding the lead-based encapsulation program.

So I'd like to make a motion to pin both.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion.

There's a request to uh pin both line item 77 as well as 78.

So we shall move on to line item 80.

Um, excuse me, 79.

79.

Okay, wonderful.

Um 24.

The focus would be on homeless services and job opportunities.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Calloway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

I uh move to remove line item 79.

All right, colleagues a motion to remove line item 79.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

All right, the last one for HHFS for now, line 80.

HHFS will provide city council with quarterly reports on the mental health capacity.

Councilmember McCampbell.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So this item is around um quarterly reports on mental health capacity for the intake uh for around our homelessness uh system um services.

So motion to add to close the resolution um language for the administration to provide quarterly updates to city council on the mental health capacity for homeless services.

Okay.

Colleagues, there's a motion for line item 80 to go into the closing resolution.

Any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

All right, now we're going to um the do it department, line 81.

Increase budget by $50,000 for cybersecurity and media literacy for residents.

Um, Consumer McCampbell.

I got a fifty 50,000 one time on here on here.

Member McCampbell.

Oh, can we pin this chair?

Just so I can get the right number on this.

There's a request to pin line item 81 for further details, colleagues.

Line item 82, Mr.

Quarley.

Yes, still do it.

The City Detroit use of AI technology, augmented reality, extended reality, and particularly I think Google Googles.

President Pro Tim Um.

Pro Tim Young.

Thank you.

Ms.

President, uh, through you, Ms.

Chair to uh the quarreling everyone.

Thank you.

Um before I begin, let me just kind of explain what some of this is.

So augmented reality is overlaying digital information onto the real world, usually using like a phone, a tablet, a windshield, or a smart glass, so you might look at a building, and then once looking at the building through the goggles, it would display physical information about that building.

Virtual reality puts the user in a fully simulated training environment, so it's a virtual reality, and then mixed reality or extended reality blends both, anchoring digital objects to real spaces.

Now, for police fire and emergency services personnel, which is what this technology is for, what I intended it for.

Um, this would be or emergency management and dispatch.

This would be the VR would be for training.

That's the virtual reality.

Your augmented reality be for field awareness, inspections and command support, and then your extended reality would be a specialized simulation and for remote assistance.

So the best municipal fit for this would be police de-escalation, crisis response, active threat decision training, tactical communication, and after action review.

For fire, it'd be your hazard recognition, your incident command, your building familiarization, your wildfire slash structure risk visualization, and your remote maintenance support.

For emergency services personnel, it'd be your mass casualty drills, your procedural rehearsal, your triage training, and your remote guidance.

And then for emergency management at your 911.

The tabletop to immersive drills, EOC visualization, situational awareness, and infrastructure overlays.

The cost of this over a three-year period would be 3 million to 7.5 million, but your savings will be 5 million to 25 million per year.

And your return on investment would be 400 to 900% over three years, and your payback would be one year over one year.

Usually I would move to approve this.

Um, but I think before I say, well, I'm gonna move just to approve this too.

I'm excuse you.

I move to approve this.

I'm gonna move to approve this to close the resolution rather than have this discussion because I think that we need one need to discuss is this something that we want to have.

Secondly, I think we had some rules of the road about technology and you know uh artificial intelligence and virtual reality and how we use it and how people are safe in the first place.

Even though when police are using it on the roads and things that nature legally, it has not been deemed of a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

It could and other such uses, and so we want to make sure we identify that.

I have case law providing that, but we want to make sure that we identify that, how that's used, and then tailor the policy to craft that so we don't use it, start violating people's fourth amendment rights or getting the suits that we should be in, cost us more money.

So all that being said, I would like to move to put on to uh closing resolution the city Detroit use of artificial intelligence technology, particularly augmented reality, AR, extended reality, XR, particularly goggles.

I'd like to move line item 82 into closing resolution.

That is the motion.

There's a motion to move line item 82 to closing resolution, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

All right, um, Mr.

President, we're now going into law department.

Line 83.

Request the law department to work with BC, Health Department, and the Trade Housing Commission to proactively maintain city public properties.

Councilmember Santiago Romero and Councilmember McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Uh, would like to move this to closing resolution.

I will work with my colleague on that language.

There's a motion, colleagues, to place line item 83 into closing resolution.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

President, just a point of information.

Yes, ma'am.

For 82, did we move that to closing resume?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

All right, line 84, law department.

Discussion, conversation about artificial intelligence and the rollout or the use of AI in the city or as a city.

Considerations including use of standard or uniform processes and procedures.

And three proper safeguard policies to be sure to be in place.

Four roll out to be in a legalized, standardized, uniform, and a cohesive manner.

And five, required training for all city employees.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Will you have the language for the closing resolution?

That's my motion.

There's a motion for approval for the closing resolution language for line item 84, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right.

Line 85 still law department conversation around Freedom of Information Act response and fulfillment.

Councilmember McCann.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

This is around the need for the law department to respond to FOIA requests and fulfill them in a timely matter.

So motion to add to the proposed resolution language for the law department to respond to FOIA in a timely matter and fulfillment, but also to provide council with quarterly updates on their FOIA work.

Any objections?

Discussion.

With discussion member uh Calway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Mr.

Corley, um, I've we've been putting in about 50 to 75,000 for a clerk.

We said a paralegal, we said, and I think I had mentioned in 2022 a law clerk.

Um but since 2022, we've been putting money into the budget for a paralegal who would main focus would be on answering for your request.

So um is there a need for us to put it in there?

Because I don't know if they've ever hired that person or not through the through the chair to you, Mr.

Corley.

I think they have, but maybe Mr.

Johnson can confirm that.

I think they have uh through the chair.

I I think that I also think they have, but um I can confirm.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there is a motion again on the floor, line item uh 85.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, law department still line 86.

Pilot program to address defraud under the law department.

Councilmember Waters, um, Councilmember uh Miller, Member Waters.

All right, thank you, Mr.

President.

I have to put a pen in this for now, trying to get some numbers from law.

All right, colleagues, there was a request for a pen from line item 86.

Line item 87, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, still law department.

Request the law department to collaborate and work with various city departments to address blight and vacancies at apartment complexes along Greenfield from Grand River, Puritan, and Schaefer.

Um I don't know if vacancies is the right, probably vacant.

That's probably vacant land, but um uh present president Tate, Councilmember uh Callaway.

Sir, thank you, uh Mr.

Corley.

Uh definitely want to place this in the closing resolution, but with amended language, uh it's not going to Schaefer, it's going to go from Grand River to Puritan and to your point.

It does, and it should indicate uh vacant apartment complexes.

No dollar amount uh required at this moment with discussion member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and to Mr.

Corley and to all those who can hear this.

I was at a meeting um at the Hubble and Puritan Community Association at New Beginnings Church on Puritan, and that these buildings were the main topic of discussion, and I promised them that I would go there after the meeting, and they followed me over there, and we took pictures and um it went viral.

Um there was someone who I guess his name is Mr.

Styles, he did a video um on Facebook, and it got a lot of um likes and shares.

So they are out there now.

I was out there at about 8:30, 845 this morning.

Um the um I guess the deputy manager or uh district manager for district one was out there, but GSD is out there.

Um uh Mr.

Mr.

Chair, and they are cleaning it up.

B seat is getting involved.

I'm getting um text messages saying DPW is going to get involved, HRD, um, because there's squatters living there with children and um drug dealing, just a lot of um unsavory behavior going on in those some of those buildings.

So I'm grateful that the city has taken action and heard us um Mr.

Chair, and they're getting those buildings cleaned up and cleaned out and boarded up properly and making them safe, and the alleys were just um um filled with trash and illegal dumping.

So uh I'm glad the city took action and um thank you, Mr.

Chair, thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Thank you.

I'm glad they're doing it.

Uh they just got to make sure it's sustained because it's wash rinse repeat.

We've done this before, and now we're seeing it again.

So we hope hopefully uh with this coordination, uh, we can get beyond just uh putting band-aids on the situation and actually get folks inside of these apartments uh over there.

Uh with further discussion, uh pro Tim Young.

Uh thank you.

Uh I just want to say first of all, thank you, Member Callaway for uh sending me um that text.

I I will I was I was pretty shocked by what I saw.

Um I recently just did an interview with Simon Shaket.

You know, I'm giving your office a lot of credit for sending me that.

And uh I just want to say I um totally agree with what you're saying.

Also, I believe they were they issued an order for people to vacate.

I believe it was July 22nd.

I believe of last year they were supposed to do that.

So this is something that had happened for a long time.

Also, corporation council and law department are working to find out who are the owners uh of this particular facility, and I'm sure we're probably gonna have more of a conversation about you know, not just turns this probably but in general strengthening of the um certificate of compliance, uh, because I know they don't have that, as well as the property registration ordinance and businesses, including this one applying to that.

I know that that BCD is taking care of they're supposed to be up, they're supposed to be like a multi-department response tomorrow.

I think like at nine, I think they're supposed to be able to do this uh from from my communications.

DPW is supposed to clean up the trash on the berm as well as back and that in the area as well.

So there's multiple departments that have been doing that.

So I just want to say thank you, and I appreciate it.

Hopefully, if they take my advice, uh they could use uh corporate entity tracing to be to find out who owns this, the law department the faster way.

So if they need to file legal cases, they could do that more fast and efficient way.

Uh that's my little FYI tidbit, but other than that, I just want to say thank you for your advocacy and thank that.

I'm sorry to you and your constituents for that experience.

And hopefully, we can make sure as President Tay says that we do all we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again.

Thank you.

Discussion.

Uh with further discussion, Member Calan.

Thank you, thank you.

Um, pro Tim Young.

Um, Mr.

Chair, what do we do?

I mean, we can talk about it offline.

We don't have to talk about it today because according to um Mr.

Malik Washington, and according to you, it's been going on for a while.

B seed issued a vacate order in July.

So what happens after that?

We don't have to talk about it now, but you know, you share half the district.

Some of my residents live over there, but they they're in district two because the way it's you know um drawn, some of them are in most of them are in your district, but I got some in my district, and that's who I met with on Saturday.

And your residents are screaming, my residents are screaming.

So with that order to vacate, what happens?

We're responding.

We're responding, we're doing our part.

Okay.

All right, yeah.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion again on the floor for line item 87.

Any objection?

See none that action shall be taken.

Okay, we're going to pay seven.

Um at the top.

Now we go into the mayor's office.

Um, in particular, probably neighborhoods of the mayor's office.

Okay, line 87.

The entire budget for the Office of Senior Affairs that's budgeted in the office neighborhood affairs.

Councilmember Waters.

Um, I'm waiting for some numbers.

So if you could put a pen in it.

But while we add it, there's a request for a pen for line item 88, colleagues.

Uh further discussion, member waters.

No, it's not about this, it's a something pertaining to law.

Okay, I can go ahead with it.

Yes, ma'am.

All right, so I just want to make a motion to put in um recurring um stipends for the um tenant rights commission.

150 dollars um per month per meeting.

Okay.

I you know, Mr.

President, I put it in last time, it disappeared.

Um the tenants' rights uh commission is recurring uh in our budget already, but their their stipend um is not.

So I want to try this again.

I'm gonna put it there again.

I'll see what happens.

Okay, Mr.

President.

Uh with further discuss, there's a motion on the floor with further with discussion.

Uh Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, I think the thing here is the the enabling ordinance does not authorize stipends for the um housing uh the uh tenants' rights commission.

So the money that would be budgeted would not be spent because stipends are not authorized um by law for the tenants rights commission.

So you'll be budgeting for something by which we have no legal means to distribute.

So you're saying there would have to be an ordinance change to allow for that waters?

Um thank you so much, and I'm glad you brought it up because we are working on that change in the ordinance.

Are you saying that we can't do that as we work on the ordinance right now?

Mr.

Mr.

Corley to you, Mr.

President.

It's corley.

Um I would defer that one to Mr.

Whitaker.

Yeah, please.

Mr.

Whitaker.

Um we did write a privileged document on this, really explaining how you get to how we believe you get to the issuance of a of a stipend for this group under the current charter language, you would be prohibited.

And I think that's what Mr.

Johnson is referring to.

The uh the charter does not allow for a stipend, but it would, in our estimation, if you change the ordinance to so reflect specifically in the ordinance.

We gave you a document that sort of explained the reasoning for that.

And uh so but it would require an ordinance change.

Yeah.

So I just member waters?

Yeah, I just I just want to know is that is it okay for me to put that amount there?

We are we're going to amend the ordinance.

I just I mean, you know, I'm not putting the cart before the horse.

I mean, what's up?

Mr.

Whitaker.

The time to put money in is now.

Yeah.

But if you put it in now, it couldn't be spent until that ordinance is changed.

Sure.

I don't have a problem with that.

You couldn't, you know, that's the limitation.

It would have been really nice to have had the ordinance amended before now.

But if you put it in there, it's gonna sit right in abeyance until you have the proper authority to spend.

Okay.

I'm good with that.

Okay.

And member what is what is the overall dollar amount?

We're talking about annually.

I'm thinking 150 per month per meeting.

So about seven is the exact amount is 71 something, 60 something.

75.

Mr.

President, I would also note that we do not have a lot of recurring dollars to allocate.

In fact, we have almost none.

So adding recurring items to the budget is something we're going to have to be extraordinarily judicious about.

I understand.

Uh member waters, what's the motion, please?

Motion to um add 75,000 dollars to um to law.

Recurring as per year for the tenants.

Oh, the tenants right commission, yes.

There's a motion on the floor, colleagues.

Yes with discussion, member Benson.

Just can we get a further breakdown of the 75,000 dollars at 150 dollars per meeting?

How many meetings are they expected to attend it?

How many commissioners are there?

There are nine nine commissioners.

So I did I uh one 150 times 12 times nine.

So it's it's 71 something, I think, but to be exact.

So one meeting a month in yeah.

That number.

What did you get?

16,000.

Can we pin that just to verify these numbers?

All right.

Okay, I'll pin it.

Yeah, I did get 16,200, but I got 75,000 for some point.

All right, so motion to pen.

Okay, that item does not appear on our spreadsheet at this moment.

But could you could we add the item, Mr.

President?

It's been moved though, so we're gonna pin that item.

Um for closing resolution at this moment.

No, no, not for closing resolution.

Yeah, for closing resolution, that way it'll stay alive until we identify what dollar amount should go into that space.

Mr.

Chair, we need to close out that admission.

That that was that part because we didn't.

I don't think we need to put a dollar amount on it right now because it still needs to be finalized.

So uh this item shall be placed in the closing resolution to keep it alive so that when member waters comes back with that dollar amount, it can be raised into executive session with that dollar amount request.

Put information.

What number, what line item number is this?

It's not on the agenda.

It's not on it.

And so that was my point.

Do we need to add this?

Close that vote out to add this.

Have we done that?

Close which vote out to actually add this to the closing to that actual line item.

That's what I was doing just now.

Okay.

Is there's a motion on the floor for closing resolution?

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

And you will come back with uh a dollar amount as we uh move forward.

Thank you.

All right, Mr.

President, is this uh is the department um is it HRD or HRD HR?

No, actually law.

Okay.

Um we can uh so we had line 89, mayor's office, neighborhoods urge the administration to expand the food access program to seniors outside of senior homes.

Councilmember McCampbell.

Member McCampbell, line item 90.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Can we sorry 8989?

Thank you for 89.

Can we pin this?

I just want to double check to see if there's a uh dollar vote that's needed.

Okay.

There's a request for a pen for line item 89, colleagues.

We should now go to line item 90.

Mayor's office neighborhoods.

Um administration to expand youth affairs programming outside of recreational centers and into the neighborhoods and blocks.

Councilmember McCamillo.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you.

Motion to approve for closing resolution.

There's a motion to approve closing resolution language for line item 90, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right.

Um line 91, Mayor's Office.

Install signs for littering and illegal dumping along with penalties.

Councilmember Callaway, Councilmember McCampill.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

I um will be talking to Mr.

Brundish later today.

He may be able to find the funding to start installing signs in his budget.

So I'm just going to um make a motion to pin this um pending further discussions with the director of DPW.

It's a motion.

There's a request to pin line item 91, colleagues.

Um we shall move on to line item 92.

Still mayor's office.

Next phase of the Brightmore framework plan funding that focus on prioritizing training and employment on city infrastructure projects.

Um President Tate.

Thank you, sir.

Uh Mr.

Corley like to place this item into closing resolution.

Is there a motion, colleagues, please?

See no objections, that action shall be taken.

Also would like to motion to roll over the balance that is currently uh in place for the Brightmore framework uh for the I'm sorry, the no, this is different.

Take it back.

Just closing resolution at this moment.

But I would also like to thought it was coming up later.

Okay.

This regard.

It's a workforce development.

Line 93, Mayor's Office still establish a regular coordinating cadence uh of regular meetings between city council offices and the department of neighborhoods to identify district specific needs, opportunities, and so on.

Councilmember Santa Gramara.

Member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Would like to add to this closing resolution.

Regular meeting with our offices and B seed and DPW.

While looking at the budget, it seems as if there is budgeted uh uh district uh representatives.

They're under district relationships.

Uh so since we are district representatives, I think it's important that we work together.

I will add this to the closing resolution uh that we re that we meet regularly with all district relationship um liaisons from these departments a motion for closing resolution language for line item 93, colleagues.

Any objections seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

Okay, thank you.

All right, line 94.

Mayor's office.

Strongly advocate the administration support of a millage for the city's cultural institutions.

Council member Benson?

Motion Benson.

Member Benson?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 94, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Discussion with discussion, Member Benson.

I'd like to modify that to be exclusive to the Charles H.

Wright and to the historical society.

The zoo has a village that will be up.

That's right.

That's our that will be a re-establishment of that village.

That should be separate.

Amended motion is now on the floor.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Uh Mr.

Whitaker.

Just wanted to ask.

I just wanted to ask Mr.

Benson whether or not you want in a standalone resolution as well as the closing resolution.

Yes, I believe we've submitted that for an assignment.

If we have now we will send the memo.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Mr.

Corley.

Line uh 95, still mayor's office.

Determine the return on investment for millage for the city's cultural institutions.

Councilmember Benson.

Motion to approve.

Member Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 95, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none.

Action shall be taken.

All right.

Line 96, Mayor's Office.

Increased budget.

This will be a one time now.

This is this is recurring.

Increase the budget by 500,000 for workforce housing fund.

Um provide funding to existing city residents.

Uh Consider Member Waters.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

This item is still currently setting in um in HRD.

Um I put it in uh last year for the same amount.

It was one time to establish that fund.

But there was no movement on it.

I'm not sure what to do with it at this point.

I put it back in there just to be able to address it.

But I do believe that that HRD does have some plans to set up such a fund, but they didn't do it last year.

So I I'm not sure what to do.

The money is is there, it was just one time.

Member Waters in the language here, I'm not sure if Mr.

Corley, if there was an error or not, but it and and just looking at the document indicates that it's reoccurring funds, but you said oh no, it's not reoccurring, no.

Oh, okay.

It's not recurring, no.

Okay.

It was one time.

So the request is for one time not reoccurring.

Yeah, that's that's how it was last year.

So it is currently sitting there.

Uh if anybody have any ideas, I needed to bring it back to the table, Mr.

President, because nothing was done with it.

The fund was not created.

So if anybody have has any thoughts, yes, ma'am.

Mr.

President, through you.

Yes, ma'am.

Member Johnson, I mean Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you for the promotion, Mr.

President.

Um be careful what you asked for.

Uh be careful what you wish for.

Um through the chair to member waters.

I would say I would I would respectfully request that we pin this so that you and I can both have a conversation with HRD and find out what their plans are for the next step, because I do know there is a plan, so let's let's clarify that for today.

All right, motion to pin.

All right, there's a request for a pen on line item 96, colleagues.

Member Benson.

But through yourself to Member Waters, what is the definition we're using for workforce housing in this situation?

Um I'm I'm talking I'm talking about people who go to work every single day.

Um, who um who are not considered low income by our definition, but who falls within a certain uh AMI.

Are we looking at 80 percent to 120 percent of AMI?

Well, well, that that's a bit I'm thinking more like um I think it's definitely huh?

180, 80 to 120, I think is definition workforce.

Well, well that's that it that income would be pretty high right in there.

No, well, that's what that's what the HR director and I were trying to work out, the HRD director and I'm trying to work out.

We're trying to agree on what the um what the AMI would be, and we didn't we didn't we didn't come to that decision yet.

We did not.

I was interested in here where you are.

I'm I may be asking to join you depending on what that number comes out to be.

All right, I will I will certainly let you know.

Okay, discussion uh with further discussion, member Johnson.

This is the real member Johnson this time.

He's the the real member Johnson just not in Detroit.

Just not in Detroit.

Um through you to Member Waters.

Member Waters, can you share how what your thoughts are around where the dollars are going?

Is it helping to secure housing?

Well, this is this is this is a capital improvement fund.

That's the purpose of it.

Because when you look at a number of people who who apply to have some sort of um home repairs or other things done, they they don't fall in into the category that we currently have.

And so I was looking for a way to start a fund to assist people who sometimes make about $50 more than what we require.

And so they can't get any single thing uh from us because of that.

And I just use that as a number.

Okay, so you're thinking home repair for yeah, it it was it's capital improvement.

Okay, not necessarily.

I mean, it could be in any of it, it could be windows, it could be this, could be it could be anything.

Thank you.

Sidewalk on okay, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

There was a pen that was placed uh in line item 96 uh line item 97 on Mr.

Corley.

Okay, last one from Mayor's office for now.

Strongly encouraged the mayor's office to hire and liaison staffer for intake of complaints and issues city council offices receive from residents about the Detroit Land Bank Authority.

Um 97.

Oh well that's gonna uh close the resolution colleagues.

There's a motion on the floor closing resolution language line item 97.

Any objections see none that action shall be taken.

All right, um we now go to uh Board of Police Commissioners that's housed and non non-departmental line 998.

Match the monthly stipend to the CPC stipend for community engagement and commissioners.

Councilmember McCampbell.

Member McCampbell.

Mr.

Chair, can we put a pen in there?

So I don't need to get more information.

All right, colleagues, there's a request for a pen for line item 98.

We should now move on to line item 99.

Okay, with discussion, member Benson.

Just for clarification, the monthly stipend to CPC, staffing for community engagement and commissioners.

Just what does that mean?

Community engagement and commissioners.

So it is member McCampbell.

Through the chair, member Benson is just for those just supposed to be for the stipend for BLPC.

Um, and it may not be matching the CPC.

The the spirit behind it is just making sure that um the board of police commissioners get a stipend that is um a fair compensation.

So just have a further conversation around it.

And just and just point of information number 99 is discusses that as well.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, going to 99, 99.

Uh still board of police commissioners.

Increased budget for the Board of Police Commissioners, general fund support for 250,000.

Councilmember Benson.

Motion to approve.

It's a motion to approve line item 99, colleagues.

Any objections?

Discussion.

With discussion, member McCampbell.

Member Benson, I will join you on this if you're open to it.

Support.

Thank you.

It's a motion on the floor, colleagues.

Any objections?

Discussion.

With further discussion, Member Santiago Romero.

Thank you.

Mr.

President, you two member Benson.

Do you know if this will support?

Is this just gonna increase?

Is this gonna meet the stipend to CPC?

Was that thought through at all?

So I I didn't use that as a benchmark.

This came from the request to the board of police commissioners for a stipend to increase their current stipend, which hadn't been done in a I think over a decade was the number they gave.

So I didn't use that as a benchmark, so I don't know the answer to that question.

Okay, that's fair.

Um maybe we can check during this time.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Mr.

President, of course, this is to be.

I'm sorry, uh recurring.

So just you know, just put that out there.

Discussion.

Uh, with further discussion, Member Callaway.

Um, do we know whether or not the um the charter uh prohibits the members of the police commission to receive um stipend payment?

They they receive it currently.

They currently receive a stipend.

They they they receive a stipend already.

Yes, ma'am.

So are we through the chair?

Are we attempting to increase the stipend?

Yes.

Do we know what the stipend is, Mr.

Chair?

No, through the chair, uh sorry, it is not a stipend.

Um they they do not receive a stipend, they receive mileage and reasonable expense reimbursement.

They don't receive any receiving no okay.

The charter says that well, Peter's gonna pull it, but we don't think uh through the chair, um according to the charter, they can't receive compensation.

That's different than reimbursement for mileage, and so um I think Peter's gonna pull it.

We have a we have our charter here, but so we can further discuss it, but I don't think they can receive like compensation.

I think they can receive reimbursement for mileage and I guess I don't know.

So we're gonna find out, I guess, Mr.

Chair.

Okay.

Thank you.

So this is line item 99.

And uh Member Benson, did we move?

We didn't we didn't uh approve this event, do we?

All right, put a pen in it.

All right, colleagues, there's a request for a pen for line item 99.

With further discussion, Member Benson.

We do we look at a stipend as compensation.

Is that a definition of compensation?

Does that meet that definition?

Oh, I'd look to look uh topic will be considered compensation.

Okay.

Um, and that's why some of the um boards and commissions receive costs instead of what's what we consider a stipend.

Because typing will be income and and cost would be more of what would be considered um a reimbursement or just you know a reimbursement of costs.

Okay, thank you.

And and Mr.

President, I would note that the Board of Police Commissioners does not typically spend their budget each year.

They they have underspent their budget.

Um, I think every year I've been with the city.

So I mean, adding in additional, adding additional resources.

The reason we kind of removed some of the resources is because they had such a consistent underspend.

And as the chair indicated, they've cleared their backlog, and that was one of the reasons we had continued to add resources to them was to clear the backlog, one-time resources.

If they've cleared that backlog, then they should be at a steady state where they need to be.

So, you know, I would caution against adding more recurring resources to the BOPC budget.

Well, this item has been pinned, which will allow us to have further discussion.

Uh Mr.

Corley, line item 100, please.

Okay, we're now going into the Detroit Land Bank Authority, not departmental discussion on the nuisance abatement program.

Consider Member Waters?

Member Waters.

What was the resolution?

Uh there is a motion to place uh language for closing resolution for line item 100, colleagues.

Any objections see none, then action shall be taken.

All right, line um 101.

Detroit landmaker authority.

But before we go forward, I I think we do have to talk about it.

Okay, yeah.

So line item line item one.

Which one?

100.

100.

100, okay.

Yes, ma'am.

Because I know some there's a couple of different ideas at the table about the nuisance abatement program.

May I ask um uh member waters what would that um language look like that you're requesting?

Because I know we're still gonna have to vote on it for the final final.

And I'd rather have some kind of idea what's what's coming our way.

I think I know.

Well, I you know, for one thing, it's a laugh about it.

Um if you look at the second one, the second one, I've been I've been trying to find out all along how it was created in the first place.

I'm probably going to encourage some sort of analysis in terms of how is it it has what effect it has on on Detroiters?

How many how many how many homes have we have we lost the uh uh nuisance abatement?

It'll be something short and sweet.

Don't worry, I'm I'm not gonna scare you with it.

No, if you if you find I've calmed down about it, I know y'all don't believe me.

But you know what else am I gonna do?

I gotta calm down about it.

I can't get you to change a man until they're here I am.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, well, it's been pinned.

I just want to get some kind of idea.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, well now I I'll let you see a draft.

Thank you so much.

Well, I appreciate you.

All right, line item one oh one, colleagues.

We're gonna get through this then.

I'm sorry, Mr.

President.

So for line item 100, I thought that was approved for closing resolution.

But you're saying it's pinned.

Well, that was 100.

Yeah.

No, I I do I apologize.

Yes, we did approve it, but language would be cut.

But I committed to him, I was gonna let him see the language.

Yeah, so we'll it's approved.

So we'll okay.

Talk I well, I heard sound better than what I've heard in the past.

So yes.

Okay, line item 101, uh Detroit Land Bank Authority.

Um Waters office to send an assignment memo to LPD to determine how the news is abatement program was created and who gave the uh DLBA the authority to create the program.

Grand Waters, yeah.

Oh line item 101 uh member waters.

Mr.

President, I believe that that's the memo that I've already sent.

Uh there's not anybody here to verify that, but I but I believe that that I sent that memo uh via e-scribe to um to LPD.

Are you looking for the results of the uh or the response language to potentially place into the closing resolution or yeah, yeah, I need I need I need to know what the response is.

Okay.

Um it could potentially be placed in there or not.

Either way, I need the response.

Okay, so you're looking to pin uh line item 101 until you get that response.

All right, colleagues has a request for a pin for line item 101 until the response is provided.

All right, we're now page eight uh with discussion member calloway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and to Mr.

Corley, we found section 7-802 regarding um police commissioners, appointed members, and elected members not entitled to compensation by state law, may receive by ordinance reimbursement for parking mileage and other reasonable expenses.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Okay, and that was in reference to line item 98.

Yes, yes, sir.

Okay.

So Mr.

President, so do we still keep the pen for line item 98?

I know that's uh council member McCampbell's, so you probably want to still keep a pen there for line item 98 based on the conversation we just had or yeah, I think so.

Line item 98 uh which is different than 99.

Uh just discussion just to get clarity.

Member Benson, yours I think was to go towards payment.

Yes, now it was as per their request.

Motion motion, I I'm gonna suggest pinning to have a conversation, which I think is gonna come off just based on what the charter does say in the IRS about compensation.

We still want to have a conversation just to let them know so this doesn't become a reoccurring ask every year.

So, yeah, so colleagues, if we can keep both of these items pinned so that we can have further discussion, I think it's needed still.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh page eight, uh line one oh two, Detroit Land Make Authority.

Um Council members uh Johnson, Councilmember McCampbell, and Councilmember Santego Romero.

Right, um Member Johnson Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'd like to uh pin this item.

Okay, colleagues, there's a request for a pen on line item 902, excuse me, 102.

Uh and we will go now to line item 103.

And Mr.

President, I don't know if you if council will like to add any language, but just to remind the council, and as you know, of course you know this, that the MOU between the city and the land bank is going to expire probably I think in November of this year.

And the land bank right now is living off of their fund balance, and based on their um budget presentation, the fund balance is gonna carry them through fiscal 2000 at the end of 2027.

Um and so there needs to be a discussion as to you know, do you bifurcate?

Do you do you uh change uh responsibilities of the land bank authority?

Do they continue to have the authority where they have the authority to clear title?

Do you keep that portion in a land bank?

Uh and um switch or or transfer other uh services that they provide now, you know, to sell homes, everything that was laid out in the amended um resolution.

Um I think there was something there about land trusts, you know, there was some um opportunities there.

So do you do you transfer those you know services that's currently in the land bank to the city?

If you do, of course there's gonna be a cost associated with that.

Um, or even if they stay in the land bank authority, there's gonna be a cost because right now, you know, as you all know, there is no general fund subsidy to the land bank authority.

So there's gonna need to be a decision between you know, you all, honorable body and the mayor as to how the land bank it you know looks like moving forward.

So I just want to remind you know the council members that and I don't know if you want to put any language you know in the closing resolution that basically there.

So I put it in okay.

So I said I'll personally put it there.

So it's members, are you are you are you fine with that?

So we we we have during this uh process we'll thank you for the the the reminder.

Um and if you can bring it back up one more time before we wrap this up.

Okay, but I don't think right now we have any language that's ready to go into the closing resolution at this particular moment.

Yes, um but duly noted.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, we're now going to the historical museum line um one oh three support youth programming with the city's museums.

Councilmember Santico Romero.

Member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

Presidents.

Uh we will add to the closing resolution encouraging the con encouraging our city museums to continue to hire locally and provide summer and after school programming motion to add this to closing resolution.

There's a motion uh to um um send language uh in uh line item 103 to closing resolution.

Any objection?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 104, still historical museum, building a relationship between a city, city's media services department and the Detroit Historical Society.

Um presentate.

Thank you, sir.

Uh, would like to place that language into closing resolution.

Motion.

There's a motion.

Any objection?

None.

That action shall be taken.

Thank you.

All right.

Line 105, Historical Museum.

Encourage the location of museum art in the Coleman Alexander Young Municipal Center on the 13th floor, including City Council Member Offices.

Councilmember Benson.

Member Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve the language for closing resolution, line item 105.

Discussion.

With discussion, Member Waters.

I I just want to um ask uh either Member Benson or Pro Tim Young on the Mildred Gannis show the on Sunday, it said there was no sign on the building that said Coleman Young Municipal Airport, whatever.

No sign.

They thought it was just a shame for us not to have a sign uh on the on the on the building.

Is that true?

I mean, sometimes she says the only thing she sees is what's right there on that fence.

Are we saying the airport?

Yeah.

If we can close this one out because this one is is not about the airport.

Well, I know it's not about the airport, but we can bring it up.

We can bring it up afterwards.

We're okay.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Thank you.

All right.

I get a little anxious.

I got you.

So colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for closing resolution for line item uh 105.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Member Water.

All right.

So so Mr.

President and colleagues, if if there's not a sign there, then I think we need to take care of that in this budget cycle.

We need to make sure that there's a sign there.

So my motion is to add a sign at the at the at the uh airport, the city airport, Coleman Young.

What is it?

Municipal city, yeah.

That would be a good thing.

Yeah, international international airport.

All right.

I wanted to make sure I got the name wrong.

See what my mind is at.

So uh and and that is my motion.

We're gonna ask uh somebody look for you know, you know, dollar amount.

They I just think that is ridiculous discussion.

There's a motion on the floor, colleagues, with discussion.

Member Callaway followed by Member Young.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and to Mr.

Corley and to um member at large um waters.

I heard the same uh discussion on the Mildred Gattis show, and when I thought about it, I didn't see one either, but she talked about there being a small sign at the entrance, but you can barely see it.

And so she requested that a sign be affixed to the actual structure, which there is not one when you go over there, and um also member waters, you also brought up the signage on the water tower at the zoo.

So that's a part of all of that.

I know we're gonna get to it, but um, I'm gonna join if I may.

I'd like to join you on both.

Okay.

First with this one, because um when you go over there, there's nothing on the building that says um Coleman A Young International Airport.

So I'd like to join you.

All right.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

All right, discussion point of information with discussion member Benson to place a sign on on the building, Coleman Young Municipal Airport.

Discussion.

Yeah.

So that's all accurate.

I just sent a text to the director of the airport.

Okay.

So there is a larger plan for the airport.

I would suggest before if we could have pin this to have a conversation with the director to find out what the plan is for signage at the airport because that airport frontage is going to move over to French Road, although it still will have visibility from Connor as well as Grash it.

Discussion with uh just further discussion, Member Waters.

Um withdrawals.

It it it it depends on it doesn't matter, it's still gonna be his name.

You know, whoever's using it, it's still gonna be his name.

So that but I'm willing to pin it so we can discuss it.

But I'm I I I it's still going to be his name.

I mean, no matter who's using it.

I think what I'm hearing is that there may be a plan for that, but it's it's not there now because it's being reconfigured where the entrance uh is.

Well no, his name need to be at the entrance.

That's what I think member Benson indicated that the changing of frontage.

So what member Benson discussion?

Let's have a conversation.

I support the fact that the airport needs to continue to have signage that indicates that this is the Coleman A.

Young International Airport, i.e.

K debt that has been named thusly by this city council well over two decades ago.

But let's have the opportunity to have the conversation prior to district three.

All right.

I okay motion to pin it.

But but I certainly want it added to the spreadsheet.

Yes, there's a motion to uh pin this item first.

The item you want to add to the closing resolution.

You want to add it first to closing resolution that way it lives.

Yes, so this shows on the spreadsheet.

Yes.

What's the motion you want to add to closing resolution?

Um signage for um to include Coleman A.

Young International Airport.

At the airport on the grounds, yes.

There's a motion on the floor for closing resolution language colleagues with this uh with discussion.

Um pro to me.

Uh first of all, I just want to say the Coleman A Young International Airport is the official name uh because the runaway can accept international flights, and uh as much as I love the this robust discussion about honoring my father, the honorable Coleman Alexander Young Senior, the best mayor ever to live with this.

Usually I would think there should be no discussion.

We should do this and we should make these signs as big as we possibly can.

As many different signs we possibly can place, but I definitely think that we want to adhere to what the overall plan is.

But like you said, I don't think that we're going to.

I think there will be a revolt.

Uh they decided to uh take uh that name off the airport, and it'll be led by this guy.

So uh I definitely agree with you 110%, and I'm sure that we will find out something where we will put a Coleman Young sign on there, and it will be a large Coleman and Young International Airport sign as it should be.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I'm in charge of that.

Yes, you are.

Okay.

Thank you.

Colleagues, we have pinned that item, so we will have further discussion.

Just so you mr.

So I know.

Okay, line um chair.

106 historical museum.

Hold on, Mr.

Corley.

I'm sorry.

I just wanted to join.

Do I join now?

Oh yeah.

Oh, I'd like to join.

I'd like to join.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Line 106, Historic Museum, to reinforce city council support of the property tax millage for city cultural institutions within the region.

Um, i.e.

Oakland County and uh Wayne County.

Councilmember Benson.

Member Benson.

Discussion quickly.

I was just having a conversation with the airport regarding the undersized sign that currently exists there.

Um we're line number number one oh six.

106, yes, sir.

I think we've done this one already.

I believe this one can be removed.

Okay.

I just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost.

All right, colleagues, there's a request to move remove line item 106 from the agenda.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 107, historically museum.

Increase budget by 3.2 million for the Detroit Historical Society.

Councilmember Miller, with the one time 3.2 million.

We can pin this item, Mr.

Corley, please.

Okay.

Thank you.

Line uh 108, still historical museum.

The employment of Detroiters in efforts to increase the number of Detroiters employed by the historic museum.

Councilmember McCampbell.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to add to close the resolution language to urge the Detroit Historical Society to increase their employment of Detroiters.

All right.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for line item 108, closing resolution language.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Okay.

Line item 109.

We're now going to the zoological society, the zoo.

Um increase budget by $50,000.

Looks like that's a recurring request.

$50,000 for a senior program.

Um in the name of the council.

Uh Council President.

Is there a motion, colleagues?

Motion to approve.

It's a motion to approve line item 109.

Any objections?

Mr.

President.

Uh Ms.

Mr.

Johnson, yes, sir.

Um, I would note that I think there's some I think there was a misunderstanding during zoo's hearing.

I think there's been a misunderstanding.

So in Madame Mayor's budget, we actually already increased the zoo's subsidy to include this as a permanent recurring item.

It's already included in the budget for 27.

The seniors.

Yes.

Yes, the senior shuttle program.

So this was already included in the mayor's proposed budget.

Um, and I don't believe the zoo would have the capacity to double the I mean, that would be a lot for them to undertake.

They can make it happen, I promise.

But uh duly noted on that.

I would definitely want to see that language because I did move it myself personally.

Um, but I think the uh closing resolution language would be appropriate to ensure that it is the will of this body to see this uh continue uh until we say not.

So uh colleagues and uh can we get that uh line item 109 remove the dollar amount uh from that particular item is a motion to remove the dollar amount for line item 109 and we'll get that verification from uh Mr.

Johnson as well.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken, and we'll get some uh language together for um the closing resolution indicating that we would like to see the senior uh program continued until uh otherwise noted.

Is there a motion for closing resolution for that language, colleagues?

There's a motion on the floor.

See no objections, then action shall be taken.

Um member Benson.

It's from the director of the airport.

There's a small sign, but it is small, not indicative of the namesake Holman A.

Young.

We just never had the funds because of competing projects.

We do need a sign at the corner of Connor and Grassett.

Okay.

So what we'll do is when we get to the airport, let's uh make sure we raise it at that moment.

Okay, um line uh one ten, still the zoo.

Increase the budget by five hundred thousand dollars.

It's a one-time request towards the Bell Ow Coyote Habitat.

Um Present Tate, Councilmember Benson, Councilmember McCampbell.

Yeah, remind me on this one because I don't think it was 500,000 for the coyote only, was it?

Discussion.

So that was 50 for the coyote 500.

It's 500,000.

Yeah, so that was that was where I was uh I I thought that was the case.

So I'm gonna tell you, I would I'm I'm uh as the individual who moved this item with all of the the zoo's um uh items that they brought before us.

I cannot support 500,000 dollars to go towards the uh coyote habitat.

I would certainly be open to a closing resolution or maybe some other amount, but I just can't uh in good conscience, even as being on the board for as long as I have five hundred thousand dollars to go to uh coyote habitat uh with I believe two coyotes that will be discussed and utilized.

Um first going to my fellow board member, uh member Benson, then Member Callaway.

Mr.

Chair, thank you.

And so I thought the same five hundred thousand dollars to uh support two coyotes would probably not be digestible by this body.

But I did have a conversation with one of the fellow board members, uh Commissioner Alicia Bell to ask if the city would commit to come in with a smaller uh more digestible amount with the county be prepared to weigh in.

There's there's no commitment that can be made, but she said she would absolutely take that back to the county and believes that a hundred thousand dollar commitment from the city could be matched by the county, which would then allow for a larger conversation to go leverage those two hundred thousand dollars to the philanthropic community and the state to uh get that built, and just reminder that the that Bell Isle is still our asset, and the bank, the Bell Isle Nature Center is our asset as well, which would then mean that we would as a city get a half million dollar um improvement to our asset with only 100,000 being spended.

And I thought that that number would be more manageable by this body.

And if the money doesn't get matched, then it would get rolled over or reallocated by the by the administration because it wouldn't be able to accommodate the need.

Okay.

So Member Vincent, are you looking for to amend the language in line item one to reflect 100,000 dollars instead of 500,000?

I am motion.

Colleagues, there's a motion for for an uh amendment uh to line item one uh with further discussion.

Member Callaway.

Um thank you, and I object to any amount.

Um and and I'll and I'll say why.

Um Mr.

Chair to Mr.

Corley and um the folks are listening um at the zoo.

Um where does it stop?

I mean, because somebody dropped off two coyotes to the zoo, they were raising them at their home, and then they know have no longer they no longer have use for them.

So what who decides on what animals we should be taking in, and then they decide they're gonna take them in and then want us to foot the bill for them.

Those coyotes were raised in a home.

And so the people, I imagine, had no further use for them.

Maybe I I don't know why.

So they decided to dump them at the zoo.

And then it becomes our responsibility to house them and build a half a million dollar habitat for them.

So where does it be where does it where does it end?

So what if somebody came in and brought in more exotic animals that we can't, we don't have a habitat for them?

Are we gonna continue to build because people no longer can take care of their own animals?

They decide they should be euthanized.

I mean, that's not popular, but we can't afford a half a million dollars habitat for two coyotes that were raised by a family, then they no longer wanted to take care of them, so they decide to drop them off at the zoo.

Who determines what animals they should be receiving?

Who's managing the manager of the zoo?

Who gave her permission to accept the animals in the first place?

If she knew she couldn't take care of them and knew she didn't have a habitat.

No, she thought she could come to this body and get a half a million dollars for us to build the Royal Oaks, um, the um the habitat at the Royal Oak Zoo.

So I couldn't support even a hundred thousand dollars.

Um let them go back to their original owners because where does it where does it end?

We can't afford it.

$500,000 should go to our seniors, should go to children's programming, should can go to hiring more people, could go to a scholarship for folks who are attending HBCU majoring in veterinary um um medicine, animal, animal uh medicine.

We don't have any of that over there.

So that's what I'd like to see.

That $500,000 go to some scholarships and some internships to support HBCU students going over to work at the zoo.

We haven't, I don't think we've ever had an African American um director of the zoo.

We certainly haven't have an African American director of the DIA to my knowledge.

I've been here my whole life.

A lot of you have been here for your whole life.

But we're supporting it with substantial amounts of money, but we're never in a leadership position.

We can do the engagement, of course, so you can be the face of the zoo in the black community, but that's not enough.

So I I I would like to know what the requirements are when these directors of the zoo are accepting these animals when they don't have a plan.

They don't have a plan.

So I cannot even um support a hundred thousand dollars.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Thank you so much.

And as a long-term member of that board, I want to give a shout out to uh Dr.

Um Haley for doing the work and job that she has done.

She's doing a tremendous job taking over for Ron.

Um the zoo quite often takes animals.

I mean, we start talking coyotes, coyotes are not domesticated animals.

These are animals that should not have been in human hands in the first place, along with some of these other animals that the Detroit Zoo acquires from around the country.

Uh and they don't place them on Bell Isle, they place them in the zoo and place them in other zoos around the country as well.

It's a whole ecosystem that takes place.

So I don't want it to be mischaracterized that they're just taking in animals that they can't take care of.

This was all on purpose.

Um there is a desire to try to uh uh uh lower the barrier of understanding between animals that are in our community, uh like coyotes and some others.

Uh but I too agree as a member, again, long-term member of of the the Detroit Zoological Society's board, that $500,000 is not a number that I can even tolerate at this point.

But I just don't want it to be mischaracterized as a board member that we are receiving animals that we can't take care of uh and just willy-nilly just place them in in the hands of the city of Detroit.

Uh we are the Detroit Zoo, it is our asset, uh, and we've done, I believe, a tremendous job with what resources we've been provided.

Um, but again, $500,000 for uh the coyote habitat.

I cannot um I can't paladin.

Doesn't feel good to me either.

With further discussion.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you for your service on the board as a lifelong Detroiter.

Um brought my children to the Detroit Zoo at Bell Ow and then the Royal Oak Zoo um slash Detroit Zoo.

All I'm saying is that uh we have to have a plan we we when we accept animals.

When you don't have a plan, you just can't accept the animals.

And to come before us asking for a half million dollars is just unconscionable to me when we barely put any money in the budget for um services and programming for our senior citizens.

We have to do that every single year, but we're willing to have that discussion, so thank you.

I don't want to mischaracterize what I said, but what I said was it's just unconscionable to me that we was even contemplate um five hundred thousand dollars for a habitat for coyotes that have been groomed and raised by people, humans.

They probably shouldn't have done that, but they did, you know.

So um, and now when they no longer have any use for them, they bring them to our zoo.

They could have took them to the Toledo Zoo, you know, right across 75.

But thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Mr.

President.

Yeah.

But before we go further with that further discussion, Member Benson.

I just wanted to clarify.

So the motion is for 100,000 to be matched by Wayne County to then to be leveraged at a later date.

Also like to indicate that there has been black leadership at the Detroit Zoo, and then that this investment would be on Bail Isle, which is our asset, and so it would be the way to leverage more investment into our asset.

And this is another draw for the residents in the city of Detroit and the Bell Al Nature Center, i.e.

the bank, is also a free nature center, which is heavily utilized by our youth, and it helps reduce the transportation barriers that many of our families in Detroit City when it comes to getting out to uh I-96 in Woodward, you can simply stay within the city of Detroit and go see a bevy, a whole um uh menagerie of animals right here in the city of Detroit.

So I just don't want to lose sight of what's being asked.

I I also agree that $500,000 is just too much for this body, but I do support a small amount to be leveraged for an investment into our asset.

Okay, thank you.

Should be from also why wouldn't the zoo millage support something of this nature?

Would be another question to be asked by colleagues.

And the reason would be is that the millage pays for 30 percent of the entire operations of the Detroit Zoo, and then to remove any amount just makes it even that much more difficult to support the basic operations of the zoo, which is why this is an additional ask, just FYI.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Johnson, followed by Member McCampbell.

I I believe I'm fine with member McCampbell going before me, Mr.

President.

Okay, as a member of the council.

I didn't know if you had something to add on to what what was being said.

Well I was gonna offer compromise um for all of this.

So my compromise to offer would be you know, I'm more than willing to offer to put a hundred thousand dollar commitment into the administration's closing resolution, um, stating that if the county does in fact come through with its commitment, then I will also bind myself to the commitment that I will find a hundred thousand dollars in our existing capital budget to match it in advance.

So I don't really need to add money in right now.

I would say I'm I'm willing to to make that commitment that yes, if the county comes through with their match, then we would absolutely follow up with our own as well.

Discussion with further discussion on that item, Member Benson.

And I think that's a fair compromise and something that I was alluding to, which is why it was critical for me to indicate that the county has indicated as such, but could make the commitment, but we wouldn't release any funds until that commitment had been made.

So thank you for rewording my suggested uh compromise, uh Mr.

Johnson.

And thank you for working with our fellow board members as well, Member Benson, uh member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um thank you, Mr.

Johnson, for that compromise.

I I'm in support of that.

I just wanted to uh like express my general support of funding, hopefully to be matched to go to this.

I as someone um growing up, one of the five my fond memories on Bell Aw was the Bellau Zoo, and I know that does that no longer is there.

Um so having some type of uh nature center that adds to and having more animals there, I think would add to the development of our young folks in the city, and as member Benjamin Benson mentioned, um would not have to go outside the city for that.

So just wanted to express my support for it.

Discussion.

Colleagues, we're gonna take a couple more hands and we're gonna land this particular plane.

You still have the rest of the agenda.

Uh member Callaway, followed by Pro Tim Young.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

Um, and to um Member Benson's point, why is it just only Wayne County matching Detroit's dollars?

Um folks from outside of Wayne County um come to that zoo, folks outside of the city of Detroit, so it should be a matching fund across the board, not only with Wayne County and only with the city of Detroit.

Why are we matching a hundred thousand dollars of our resources when other folks from other surrounding counties also support that zoo?

You know, the millage just doesn't include um is it's not even in Wayne County, it's in Oakland County.

So why is why are we um not asking other municipalities or why can't the zoo take that on?

The zoo should um, and I told them they they should.

I recommend it that they go across Wayne County, they go to Oakland County, Macomb County, and then come back to the city.

I think they should do a better job of fundraising for the habitat.

Why why is the city of Detroit having to come up with a hundred thousand dollars as if the majority of the visitors to the zoo are Detroiters when they're not when you go out there, we we know that they're not, and it doesn't matter.

I mean, it's enjoyed by the region, which is a it's um it's amazing, but I think it should be spread more fairly and evenly to other um municipalities and counties, not just Wayne County and and um black Detroit.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Uh Pro Tim Young.

Okay, yeah.

Uh my understanding is this is at actual Bellau, right?

Not at the zoo.

My my question is this is a even though we own it, this is the state-managed um park.

Where the state resources in this, where are the state finances in this?

Because there is a plan to be able to bring that zoo back.

They should be investing in this.

And part of the reason why we have the setup where the city owns it and the state manages it, is because the state requested that.

And matter of fact, they demanded it.

And so I don't understand without a whole lot of input from the citizens here.

I remember that process thoroughly during the bankruptcy.

So, where is their plan to be I uh I mean, look again, I'm not much and I gotta be honest, I'm a little bit biased.

I'm not much of an animal guy, because if I go out, let's say I go out and I like you know kick Wiley Coyote in the face.

More than likely there's gonna be penalties for that.

I'm gonna go to prison for that.

If you go out there and shoot little Jamal, somebody's gonna ask you, well, what's little Jamal doing?

Why little Jamal out there?

I just don't like the double standard of how we treat animals, how we treat human beings.

It just bothers me as a man.

But anyway, I I I digress angrily.

But I don't understand where the state is.

Are we gonna get reimbursed for this?

Are they paying for this?

They should be doing this first and foremost.

Colleagues, I would welcome you.

I mean, we to join us at any of our board meeting.

You you'll see the information, you'll see the investment that the state is also placed into this.

This is a again when it to me coming to us for $500,000 probably wasn't the best um way to approach this.

Uh, for but I really would like for us to look at the totality of what this zoo does and how important it has been for our region and the fact, again, it's been mentioned this is our city of Detroit asset.

While it may be located in Royal Oak, it's been in Royal Oak for a long time.

We've got the uh golf course right across the street that is also an asset of ours.

We have had other assets outside of the city of Detroit.

When we're the big dog, that happens.

That's true.

You end up having assets in other places.

Um but right now we're trying to figure out how to make those assets work to the best of its ability without breaking the bank.

And this is an opportunity for us to do that in this situation again.

Five you're hearing from the two members on the board saying five hundred thousand dollars is just not that number.

Uh we've already talked about a potential deal that would allow for a movement on this that would allow for our uh young folks in the city of Detroit, our Detroiters to be on our other asset, Bell Isle, to enjoy animals that they see on a regular basis up close and personal and de uh sensitize them from again those particular animals.

You hear about deer, you hear about coyote, you hear about all these typical animals in a neighborhood, but this will give them an opportunity to learn more about those animals that's in their their space.

Uh so we have this item on the the spreadsheet in front of us before we the last voice we're gonna go to, we're gonna hear you, Member Benson, and then we're going to vote on this item.

Yes, because that's why we're here.

Member Benson, Mr.

Chair, motion to call the question with discussion.

The last item here is what has been proposed as a compromise.

Nobody has suggested that $500,000 from the city of Detroit is acceptable.

What we have said is that the city of Detroit would go into the pot if matched by Wayne County, which will then allow for a larger conversation to be had by the zoo board, zoo staff, to go and search for additional funding, which I'm sure the state will be part of that conversation.

Oakland County would be part of that conversation.

As a board member, I happen to have the phone number of the Wayne County Commission chair, who is also a board member and open to having this conversation as well.

So this is one way to eat the elephant, which is one bite at a time, and it's not a commitment.

And what it is is an opportunity to leverage investment into our asset of a half million dollars by spending potentially 100,000, and any motion by this body will not place us on the hook.

What it would do was put us on the hook to match if others are willing to come in.

And so I believe that's a very fair compromise to try to leverage an investment into our asset, which is heavily used by our children, which is the bank, the Bell Isle Nature Center, which is where this investment will go.

And if you went right outside of this window, you could on the other side of the building, you could look right over at Bell Isle and see where our children utilize those services.

They would be able to see this.

It is free.

There is no cost.

The Detroit Zoo has is a very, I believe a large cost, about 30-something dollars to get in there.

So a family of four, you're paying over $100 each family there.

The Bell Law Nature Center, free.

And so this is an opportunity to invest that, and I believe it's a reasonable ask.

Thank you so much.

Uh Mr.

King, parliamentarian.

Yeah, um, Councilmember Benson, your motion in the debate to call the question and ended debate.

Uh what's on the table is the $100,000 vote.

And from you too.

Thank you, Mr.

Parliamentary.

There is a motion to end debate, colleagues.

Any objection?

See none, then action shall be taken.

All right.

Uh, there is a request for to amend the line item 10 to reflect 100,000 based on a cast, a match of a 100,000 uh uh funding uh from Wayne County.

Uh colleagues, is there a motion to place this item uh in executive session?

There's a motion on the floor.

Any objections?

What item is there?

Okay, um, Mr.

Mr.

Whittaker.

If you accept Mr.

Johnson's offer, it takes away the need to find the hundred thousand.

So that's really superior to what you voted on.

So but that would end up.

We don't want it to just disappear though, right?

Put it in your closing resolution and and they would pick up the hundred thousand not you.

We'll match our closing resolutions.

So that so everything I just said, but closing resolution.

And they can add in theirs as well.

We can't add in their closing resolution, but we want to put it in ours, but they're gonna put it in theirs.

You don't have to you don't have to our hearts and minds.

All right.

Motion on the floor, any objections?

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

Um, Mr.

Clerk, if you can note, so objection.

All right, Ms.

Clerk, if you can note, all right.

That action shall be taken.

Discussion with discussion.

Member Benson.

We'll work together.

Okay.

All right, thank you.

Line item one eleven, Mr.

Corden.

Still the zoo.

Um to strongly support the millage for cultural institutions, including uh the zoo, historical museum, Charles H.

Wright Museum of African American history for the August 2026 or November 2026 voter elections.

Councilmember Benson.

Member Benson.

I think this has been reinforced several times.

Uh motion to remove.

There's a motion to remove line item 110 from the agenda, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

All right.

Line one 112.

Still the zoo.

This last one for the zoo for now.

Funding to increase the um font size of the Detroit Zoo Water Tower.

Um Council members uh Waters and Council Member Callaway.

All right, member Water.

Uh member Waters.

Okay.

Um, first of all, you know, you guys probably recall me saying when I drive up Woodward, you can barely see the word Detroit, but yet they don't have a problem coming to us for money all the time.

But they want they want to hide the fact that in fact that we own the zoo.

So they need to increase that that font size.

The question becomes who pays for it?

Are they gonna pay for it?

Do we need to put about $50,000 in the in the kitty for and pay for and make sure that they do it?

I am open to discussion.

I'm not an up well, just say for me personally, I'm not in support of this particular item.

Oh, I know from the beginning.

Well, they just no, I just said the reason I say this because there was literally just a rebranding that took place, uh, went up on the towers.

And if we're not, if we're saying we want to put money towards services, I'm not understanding how now uh the name Detroit being on the water tower um supplants that ideology.

Uh it just doesn't, I'm not able to compute with that information.

Member Waters.

Oh, oh, thank you, Mr.

President.

Um, whatever whatever you decide, I I still uh want to put this in closing uh resolution because I did encourage them while they were they were sitting here that day when they came here for for budget.

It is still true.

It is uh you can barely see you can't even really see the word uh uh Detroit up there.

I mean you really can't.

So I mean that that was my thing about the whole thing.

However, they decide to address it, it's fine.

I just want them to know that there might be a will from some people uh on this body to see to make sure that we can we can see it.

I mean they don't go up to the other counties for uh uh asking them for money.

They I guess they do some fundraising, but it comes from our from our general fund for the record, it's it's our asset.

Yeah, well, yeah, kind of I mean you say that, but you know it's in Oakland County, and then you can barely see the word Detroit.

Yeah, you understand okay discussion.

Oh, with further discussion, member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

To your points, uh we are talking about priorities, and for me it's not a priority to grow font sizes for signs.

Um want to make sure that we're investing in our people, our places, and our animals.

I was supportive of the 500.

Let conversation happen for the 100 uh for Bell Isle.

Um, but those are my thoughts, Mr.

President.

Um, because these are the the serious conversations that we should be having.

What do we want to prioritize?

Um, and for me, it is not going to be font sizes for signs, thank you, or signs in general, um, especially if they're not urgent.

Thank you.

Discussion.

With further discussion, Member Benson, followed by Member Waters.

I think a closing, I would be supportive of closing resolution.

I think this is a valid concern by this body that could be taken up by the board at a later date and prioritize down the line, which funding becomes available or the time to repaint the sign, but I think the message to the board is appropriate that we'd like to see as a city of Detroit a greater level of branding um on any future tower signs.

I think that's appropriate.

Um request uh member waters.

Well said, Member Benson.

Well, thank you so much, because that's exactly where I'm trying to go.

Listen, you you're using us, and yet you don't want to identify with us.

That's how I see it.

So for anybody that lives here in this city, and you don't think that there's a problem with that.

Well, okay.

I'm done.

Okay.

Motion to go to close and resolution.

That was my intent all along, but I opened up for discussion if people thought that was important enough that we see the name Detroit when we go by there.

Oh, just give them money.

I don't give a freaking frack about whether or not you can see it.

Good grief.

Discussion.

So, colleague, I think this is why we have these discussions.

I don't know if it's a matter of folks not giving a frick a frack.

This is the this is the process where we deliberate these items.

We may not agree.

But I don't think that we have to demean another colleague or your colleagues because we don't agree.

That happens.

I on this situation will not be in support of this particular item.

But that's not the end of the day.

We move on.

It might be the end of the day.

All right, colleagues.

All right.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I still continue to join Member Waters on this very, very important.

Um I live, I don't live so far from there, and you cannot see the words Detroit.

It's subliminal.

So font size is critical.

It's promotion, it's advertisement.

Children deserve to see the word Detroit.

That makes them feel so connected and engaged, but not to be able to see it at all until you pull up under the water tower.

That's the only time you can really see it.

When you get so close to it, but when you're coming down Woodwork, you absolutely cannot see the word Detroit.

You cannot see it.

So I I continue to support font size is relevant and important in every area.

If it wasn't, we wouldn't have different size fonts.

We wouldn't have different style fonts and colors.

So it is very, very rev rep um relevant and not to have it larger is it sends a very subliminal message in my opinion in terms of what is important.

And the word Detroit should be more pronounced and large, just like the word zoo.

Mr.

President.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

Colleagues, can I get a motion to uh call the question on this item, please?

Motion.

Thank you.

It's a motion to call the question.

Objection.

One objection.

Any further?

Mr.

President.

See none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Okay.

So we're now going to be voting on this particular item, colleagues.

There's a motion on the floor for closing resolution for line item 112.

Are there any objections?

Mr.

Clerk, if you can show me as an objector.

Clerk was a note.

Are there any others?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Discussion.

With discussion.

Member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I just want to make it very clear that we're talking about funding.

And that was my comments.

It was around funding.

I am wholeheartedly supportive of branding, making sure that things are accessible as I always have been.

Just want to make that very clear.

Thank you, Mr.

President's.

That was my only uh notes, and thank you, Member Benson, for moving this to closing resolution, which I support.

Thank you.

Line item one thirteen.

Not on this item.

We've moved on.

Line item one thirteen, Mr.

Carter.

This is um Eastern Market.

Increase the budget by $300,000 for the box lunch program and black bottom archives development.

Councilmember um Miller, Councilmember McCampbell.

Uh Member Miller is not present, but I know that it was supported by Member McCampbell.

Um, I don't know if you have anything you want to add, but we might want to pin to allow her an opportunity to move it.

But member Miller, I mean member McCampbell, excuse me.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

John.

I did reach out and I have a heard back on um this, and I know member Miller did as well, so yeah, if we can pin this.

Okay.

There's a request to pin line item 113, colleagues.

We're now on 114.

Okay, that's page type of page nine.

Uh still Eastern Market.

Increase the budget by 240,000 for the urban farmers grant program.

Um that's that would that be a one-time request.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Um motion to approve.

It's a motion to approve line item 114, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Okay, line 115.

We now go to the port authority.

Develop a tracking mechanism for the youth careers that result from career exposition and other programs.

Uh presentate.

Um place this item.

Uh I'd like to motion to place this item into closing resolution.

I get a motion, colleagues.

There's a motion on the floor for line number 115.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Line um 116 subport authority.

Increase the budget by 1.5 million to invest in the mobility innovation terminal.

Um, pro Tim Young.

That's a one-time uh request.

Pro Tim Young.

Move to approve.

It's a motion to approve line item 116, colleagues.

Um with a dollar amount of 1.5 million.

Uh general fund one time.

Any objections?

Mr.

President.

Uh Mr.

Johnson.

Um I think that this is an item that I think there's just a lot more discussion that needs to happen with the port authority about what their act the actual plan is and and the timeline on that.

Um, I'm very hesitant to have us commit this amount of our limited resources to something that we just I feel like we do not yet have a firm roadmap on.

I think we need to continue the conversation with the port and convene a group that's a little bit more active on a day-to-day conversation basis before we get in the in the business of adding a bunch of extra money to the port authority.

Discussion.

Proto all due respect, sir.

I strongly strongly disagree.

Now let me explain why.

So from the infrastructure standpoint, that's your yard retrofit and smart gates.

That's about a capex of 300 to 500k.

That is permit pavement upgrades, your RFID gates, your power, and your edge cabinets that enables autonomous smart flow.

Then you have your yard trucks that's one to three units, that's 250K to 600k.

That's your autonomous terminal tractors, your sensor network that's 150k to 300k.

That's your RFID, your traffic sensors, and your AI cameras.

That's real-time cargo and traffic tracking.

Then you have your AI platform, that's your logistics optimization software.

200 to 400k, that's your artificial intelligence routing, predictive analytics dashboards, that's smart scheduling and flow optimization.

Then you have your digital trust, that's your blockchain, your distributed, your distributed ledger technology.

Um, your did your digital, your distributed digital ledger technology, excuse me.

That's 50 to 100,000.

That's your cargo tracking ledger and your smart contracts.

That's your chain of custody plus your automation that reduces fraud and creates faster transactions.

This your drone systems that's 25,000 to 100k.

That's your inspection and your security drones, monitoring, surveilling, enforcement, reduce risk, improve compliance.

That's the RSI of five to ten percent of a five to ten points increase.

Then it's your your um your edge cloud systems, that's your edge service, your APIs, your uh cloud integration, your real-time processing data engine.

That's your high value logistics intelligence.

That's a TFP, a total factor production increase of three per of seven percent.

Your labor productivity is gonna go up by 10 to 20 percent because you have your staff training, your tech operators, your human capital upgrade.

Then that's a hundred to a hundred, there's two hundred thousand.

Then your integration, your cybersecurity, that's a hundred, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, your system integration, cyber defense, full system functionality, risk reduction, operational stability is gonna go up.

Now look, your total investment we're talking about here is only 1.5 million dollars.

Okay.

For the direct jobs from that short term, 15 to 30.

Your permanent jobs, 15 to 25.

Your indirect jobs, four to eighty.

Your average wage, that's 70,000 to 120,000 K.

Your total annual wage is three to eight million dollars.

Your local gross domestic product is eight million to twenty million dollars to one to three years.

Your five to ten year gross domestic product is fifty million to a hundred and fifty billion.

Your annual tax revenue is 500k to two million.

Your private investment leverage is five million to 25 million.

That's return of investment four times to 12 times over a five-year period.

More than what you implement, not to mention effect, your cargo duel time goes up, goes down by 15 to 30 percent.

Your logistics efficiency goes up by 10 to 25 percent, and your labor efficiency goes up by 10 to 20 percent.

Not to be your tax leakage reduction, amount of money that goes out of the city, will be captured back to the city.

That's a five to fifteen percent recapture, and your velocity of money, the amount of money that's spent, it stays in the community, is a one point six to two point three percent increase.

Local business activity goes up by ten percent to twenty-five percent near the port, and the property value in the corridors goes up by two to eight percent.

That is just with a one point five million dollar investment.

And you're gonna tell me that that is not something that we should do with all that economic development.

I strongly disagree.

Respectfully, I strongly disagree.

I think it's gonna be more bang for our book, more return for our money, and we are innovating and building the port of next generation.

You should support what I offer.

I strongly disagree.

I moved to approve.

Let's vote this up.

Discussion.

There's a motion on the floor with discussion.

And colleagues want to note I was gonna wait until we get through all of the port authorities um items and then go to public comment, but we are getting close to the five o'clock hour.

So this will be the last item that we discuss before we go to public comment and then transition to the uh budget, excuse me, the public hearing, because it will take about 30 minutes or so to transfer uh transfer all the tech from this space to that space in the auditorium.

So this will be the last item.

Uh and while we are on this last item, if there's anyone from the public who would like to speak, please raise your hand now.

If you're in the committee of the whole, please raise your hand now.

If you're online, please raise your hand now.

See, one, two, three, four, uh, five hands in the committee of the whole, uh, going once, going twice, one three times collection of public comments have now concluded.

Uh, as mentioned uh during the uh budget process, uh there will be one or abbreviated public comments during uh the uh public hearings, excuse me, budget hearings as well as executive session.

Um but for right now uh we will close out the collection of public comments, and the floor is now yours, Mr.

Johnson.

I know you had something you wanted to add.

Um I thank you, Mr.

President.

Um, through you to to Pro Tim Young.

Um I think I can't, you know, I can't dispute all of those things.

Those are things that are um very impressive and and I'm sure very important to the local economy.

All I'm stressing is that I don't believe that we are at the point where we could pull the trigger on any of the major investments at this time to accomplish all of that.

I can we accomplish it over time?

Sure, I'm sure we can.

Um, but I just I have to stress how small the pot of resources is that this council has to play with in this budget, and we'll do our best to accommodate what we can, but it is a very small pot.

This would be a big bite of a small pot.

You don't have the money.

We don't have the money.

Okay.

Then I can understand.

That's the answer.

Okay.

Okay, with further discussion, Mr.

Whitaker.

Master concession agreement.

That's all I need to say.

No, it's it's it's it's on here, but we we spent a whole lot of time on certain things.

Um member Benson on this particular item.

Can I make a suggestion to pin this item?

There will be a number of items to get people to cut a level of comfort there.

Number one, where are we with the master's concessions agreement?

Number two, where would the port authority be with the ability to layer this on as a piece of capital?

I understand there's a 25 million dollar project.

There's only been 2.5 million to date that's been placed into the bucket to support.

I'm just not sure if putting 1.5 million dollars there right now without having greater understanding from the uh Wayne County Port Authority, how they will use it, where they would maintain it, and how close they are to getting to a fully funded item.

Not that I don't disagree with the need for it, but just the the sense of the need to prioritize it now during this budget session.

Thank you.

Uh pro Tim Young.

No, I I think that's asked member Benson.

I think respectfully, I kind of answered, you know, what Wayne County would intend to do.

I think we kind of talked about what this is and what the issues are.

I think I kind of addressed that in uh a little bit, you know, comprehensively.

But what I will say is normally I would just move this to a closing resolution because like you said, you don't have the money.

I will pin this because we should have a discussion about this anyway, and because I like talking about this, so I will pin it, you know, to do that, but I think ultimately this is gonna go to close resolution because like you said, you don't have the money, and you know, when you when you say that, I can understand that.

You know, the the other stuff not so much, but I can understand that.

All right.

So with that being said, I'd like to motion to pin this item.

That's line item 116.

Thank you.

Colleagues says a request to pin line item one sixteen.

Any objections?

Seeing none, we shall pin line item one sixteen.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh member Benson.

Motion to add one million dollars to the new line item for one million dollars as a reoccurring as a reoccurring charge, the general fund for Detroit City Council budget.

Member Vincent, say one more time.

A one million dollar increase.

One million dollar increase to the Detroit City Council budget for reoccurring.

All right.

Uh there's a motion on the floor, colleagues, for one million dollars reoccurring city council budget.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

Discussion.

With discussion, remember Santiago Romero.

Through you, Mr.

President to Member Benson.

Is this for our offices for LPD for our offices?

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

All right, so we shall now uh close out the uh spreadsheet for the day.

We made major impact, but we still have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven pages left.

So that'll be waiting for us tomorrow.

But today we shall now go to public comment.

Mr.

President, yes, appointed member waters.

All right.

So earlier when I said freaking whatever I said.

I fracking or whatever I said.

So I just I just want folks to know that it is not necessarily directed at any person.

If you all have known me for the past five years, I tend to say certain things that other people don't say at this table.

So please do not do not take it personal.

Uh it is not meant to be personal.

Um I do get very, very passionate about the city.

I do I sometimes I think it's a bit much.

I get so passionate.

So but I want I wanted to say that.

I mean, this isn't this is not a personality driven thing.

Thank you for the clarification, member Waters.

Thank you.

Ms.

President, uh Mr.

Corley.

So of course, tomorrow is formal session day.

Um, and I know we have uh the mayor has her um state of the city at 7 p.m.

Do you want to have executive session?

Uh maybe sit it at two o'clock just to see where you at with former session, and then you know, just kind of see how it goes.

Yes, sir, because we first before we start moving much, we've got to clear the table with these seven sheets.

So we need to get as much time as we can at least go through this item and then give you an opportunity and and and and colleagues as well to have those negotiating uh negotiation conversations with the administration and amongst ourselves as well.

I mean, I I wanted to be very clear, colleagues.

Uh all of the sausage doesn't have to be made at the table.

We can actually have staff work collaboratively in trying to pull some of these items together so that when we come to the table, uh we have uh closer to some level of uh understanding than then not.

Uh member Benson, I think you said Mr.

Chairman.

I think what a great way to help expedite this would be to have staff work together around the closing resolution items only, and that way there could be a mass movement of closing resolution items to help clear the deck for the more substantive conversations around dollars.

It's a suggestion.

Thank you.

Uh member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

President, and then just for clarity, so we'll continue executive session tomorrow.

I believe we also canceled BFA and PED.

Um, are there gonna be any other changes?

Oh, neighborhoods.

Okay, so it's it's neighborhoods and BFA that will be canceled this week to give us more time as well.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, thank you.

Yes, ma'am.

Excuse me, Mr.

Chair, member Callaway.

I have also canceled um internal operations standing committee meeting on Wednesday.

That'll give you some extra time as well.

And I've all we have also probably notified the two interviewees, and they'll be going um probably closer to the end of the month because we also have a public hearing that's coming up that was pre-scheduled.

So it is canceled for Wednesday.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Okay.

So budget hearings will be uh executive session, excuse me, will begin at 10 a.m.

10 a.m.

this week.

Uh not tomorrow.

Wednesday.

Wednesday.

Yes, sir, Wednesday and Thursday.

Okay.

So we shall now uh go into public comment.

Uh want everyone who are here in person to please be mindful of that.

Once your time is up, remove yourself from the seat and allow the next person to take that seat so we can move expeditiously.

Our first speaker is Jadante Smith, followed by Mia Anderson, followed by Danielle Hayes.

You can give everyone one minute.

Miss Mia Anderson and Danielle Hayes, come on up to those two chairs.

And Mr.

Smith, your time begins now.

You may begin, Mr.

Smith.

Your time begins now.

Good afternoon.

I was gonna say I wasn't able to speak the other day, uh James Ted.

You saw me in this room, you didn't let me speak.

Uh I was on Zoom also earlier this morning.

I was not able to speak.

I want to say also to every member on this board, everybody who's up here, if you've done something wrong, I know exactly what you've done wrong.

I can try, I can trace it, whether I like you or not, I can do it.

The other day, uh was it Friday?

We had 776,000 dollars sitting in this room between three individuals in the city of Detroit.

That is waste between David Whittaker, 243,000, David Bowser, 243,000, and Wendy Lau, who's sat in this chair.

I'm sitting in, 290,000.

We're wasting too much money.

Also, if anybody up here has any kahunas, you guys can hold this budget and defund the land.

We have a council member who always talks about one vote.

If you have five votes, then you control the budget.

You can stop the mayor from doing the land bank.

You can make it shut down.

You have to have approval both, but you only need five votes up here.

If you hold the budget, it's an unfortunate thing.

But residents, we do not like the land bank, it is not doing well.

Please shut it down.

Please.

Next speaker, Mia Anderson.

Followed by Daniel Hayes, followed by Cassie Jones McPreed.

I apologize if I did not pronounce that correctly.

Ms.

Anderson.

So for the Detroit Building Authority, and I sent this email to each of you.

Um the council person asked them the question of how do they acquire their properties, and then their first answer was the right of first refusal.

I don't think anybody on this council has dug into what that is.

I think there needs to be some digging into what that document is and how it lives and how it speaks.

Um I found out last summer, Wayne County foreclosure auction does not just give the land bank things that did not sell.

They have a set-aside process, the first rights of refusal, and in 144 properties sold for 14.4 million dollars to the DBA, which they funnel to the land bank.

The DBA Clifton said he does not like to deal with residential.

Then why are you doing this deal so you can just funnel and conduit things directly to the land bank?

And I'll be here tomorrow.

I'm honestly pretty disappointed with the time you gave for public comment, uh, seeing how much time y'all spent talking about coyote habitats.

I really don't think that's fair to the public.

Uh hearing that is pretty much all public comment.

And so you have an opportunity.

So don't leave.

This is tomorrow.

And you're welcome.

I just didn't want you to leave today.

And hopefully y'all are able to do that.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right.

Next speaker, Daniel Hayes, followed by Cassie Jones McPride.

Um, I'm Daniel Hayes.

I am a community-based doula currently and previously I have worked in the K 12 school system, and I've seen firsthand what evictions can do, the negative consequences of children not being able to make it to school, mothers being evicted.

I currently know a mother who was just ousted out of her shelter housing because she was in the hospital for too long.

So I want to really urge that we have the right to counsel, especially for people who cannot afford that on their own.

It's not a right if everyone doesn't have access to it.

And that's all.

Thank you.

Next speaker, Cassie Jones McBride, uh followed by Lorinda Lewis, followed by Latanya Bell.

Yes, my name is Cassie Jones McBride, co-chair of the Detroit Right to Counsel Coalition and founder of the Michigan Chamber of Reproductive Justice.

I am here giving testimony today, lifting up the experience of our coalition member Miranda.

Brandon serves as the Legal Services Coordination Director at the United Community Housing Coalition.

While staffing the docket, a right to counsel attorney represented a Detroit resident facing eviction from someone claiming to own their home.

That resident came with documentation proving that they were the rightful owner.

With legal representation, that case was dismissed and reported to the city's deed fraud task force.

That same plaintiff had filed multiple similar cases.

And through right to counsel outreach, legal services connected with those residents.

And everyone received representation, and every case was dismissed.

Multiple Detroit residents keep their homes and their equity in the face of coordinated fraud scheme because of the right to counsel coalition.

So you're asking that the right to counsel program is fully funded so that everyone deserves and and demands a right to counsel when they are in crisis.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman McCry.

Next speaker, Lorinda Lewis, followed by Latanya Bell, followed by Reuben James Crowley Jr.

Good afternoon, everyone.

Hit your button in front of your mic.

Um floor is yours.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, everyone.

My name is Lorinda Lewis, and I am a community dualer in the city of Detroit.

And I'm also a member of the Detroit Route Right to Council.

My work is about supporting people through some of the most vulnerable moments in their lives.

Housing stability is a part of that care.

I've seen how the threat of eviction impacts stress, pregnancy outcomes, and postpartum recovery.

Families cannot thrive when they are worried about losing their home.

The right to counsel is essential and it must be fully funded so families have the support that they deserve.

I strongly support full funding for right to counsel and stand with the right to counsel coalition.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good afternoon.

Hello, my name is Latanya Bell.

I'm co-executive director at the Wisdom Institute, a nonprofit organization with a focus on helping to improve the lives and livelihood of black women and girls in Detroit.

My organization serves as a co-chair of the Detroit Rights of Council Coalition, navigating evictions every day.

What we witness is not failure on the part of our people.

It is the weight of systems that makes stability hard to hold.

Families are doing everything in their power to remain housed, but often pulled into courtrooms without support, information, or representation that they deserve.

Partial investments create gaps and our people fall through them.

We need funding that reflects the real conditions Detroiters are facing.

Funding that honors housing as a human right and ensures that no one stands alone in the face of eviction.

I strongly support the fully funding funding of the right to counsel and stand with the Detroit Rights of Council Coalition in this ask.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Our last speaker in person, Reuben James Crowley Jr.

James E.

Tate Jr.

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Look at me in my eyes, man.

Look at me dead in my eyes.

Do it.

Do it.

Turn your head and look this way, sucker.

You and that Pastor Solomon Kennock.

And it's Wayne County.

And Conrad Malik Jr.

And Chief Warren Evans, former Chief of the Police Department, and Angela Callaway and Gabriella Santiago Romero the lawyer.

And you, Letitia Johnson, the perpetrator.

And over there, the scoundrel, Scott Benson.

The gig is up.

Y'all busted.

Y'all cheated in.

And JZ Tate, we never should have called my friend and said I wonder right representative.

Now I'm a representing your eight double dollar sign in front of everybody.

The way I get down.

Right.

All right.

Our last speaker is Mr.

Foster.

Mr.

Foster.

All right.

Good afternoon, very briefly.

First Timothy 58 that says, but if any provide not for his own, especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith and is worse than the infidel.

And so what that tells us is we have to keep our resources community-based.

You have to take care of your staff that work in this community, do more for them, more gas incentives and a lot of other things.

That's why I'm proud to say that as you guys continue to do these things, I think more people would be more engaged.

Um, with the mayor and his departing statement, he spoke about 500 million dollars that was an additional to this budget that could be used here.

So it should be no reason in the world where this community has been denied any funding or any opportunities for any endeavors that we have here.

Okay.

And so and then last, I want to keep into your mind the AI cannot predict future wars, inflation, poverty, or terror.

So be cautious about the information that you use with those things.

Thank you.

All right, we shall now go to our online callers.

Team, how many callers do we have and who do we have first?

Good afternoon, Council President.

We have five callers on law for all our public comment, with our first caller being Betty A.

Varner.

Miss Betty A.

Varner, the floor is yours.

You have one minute, general public comment.

Uh good afternoon.

This is Betty A.

Barner, the president of DeSoda Ellsworth Block Association.

You know, um there's been so much conversation and and energy and positive talk and talk about monies for the Detroit Zoo.

I was born and raised in Detroit.

I love my city of Detroit.

I love uh the Detroit Zoo.

Okay, and animals.

But how about having the same type of energy?

You know, I'm 76 years old.

I've been advocating for my think of corridor, our think of corridor for five years.

If I'm blessed, Easter Sunday is my birthday.

I'll be 77.

I'm hoping I will live long enough to hear the same type of uh energy, positive talk about money for corridors to help us improve our neighborhoods, and especially for my think accord.

I'm hoping I will live long enough to hear that positive talk.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Vernon.

Next caller, please.

iPhone, the floor is yours.

You have one minute, general public comment.

iPhone, are you there?

All right, let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

Our next caller is going to be owner Papa.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

We have one minute, general public comment.

Good morning, and may I be hearding through the chair?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

Um I'm under I'm wondering if this panel has ever read the book.