Yeah, I thought you did.

Because we motion for it.

We'll see.

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the expanded budget finance and audit standing committee for today, March 31st, 2026.

Madam Clerk, good afternoon.

Please call the roll.

Absolutely.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

Present.

Councilmember Denzel McCampbell.

Councilmember Reneta Miller.

Member Miller has sent the memo indicating that she would not be here due to a personal situation and her absence is excused.

Clerk will note.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Present.

Council President Pro Tem Coleman Young.

Council President James Tate.

Here.

Mr.

President, we thank you so much.

We have a quorum, which means we're now in session.

This is our we're here for the purposes of the executive session.

But before we go into the numbers, colleagues, we need to identify what time we're going to wrap this up by today, noting that we are going to the uh state of the city.

We were requested to be there by 5 30, 5 45.

So I'm thinking 4 o'clock, and I don't know if you all have to go home get gussied up, but 4 o'clock sounds pretty good.

We'd like to go on the card.

4 o'clock it is.

Mr.

Court with discussion.

I'll move three o'clock.

All right, well, you might take a little longer to get notified.

Why rush ourselves?

Let's rush ourselves the table tomorrow and have the ability to get there in a timely fashion today.

So is it three o'clock?

I put it out there.

So is it three?

Motion for three.

There's a motion for three.

Why would you do that?

Don't go halfway with me.

Member Callaway say look at that face.

Don't go halfway with me.

All right.

I know that's that's what I said.

I want it.

Oh, you want three?

I wanted four.

All right, so it sounds like there's more of a grievance around three o'clock.

So three it is.

So Mr.

Corley, we got like 20 some minutes now.

We'll see how far we go.

And action.

Um presentate uh city council.

Um so um we're gonna go and use the same spreadsheet that we used yesterday, and I suggest that we go through the same spreadsheet until we're done with it, and then we can make all of our changes and come back with you with a new spreadsheet, probably tomorrow afternoon.

Is that that that sounds okay?

Yes, sir.

Okay, I appreciate that.

So we're on page nine, and um we would start 117.

I believe it was.

I think 117.

Yes, yeah, 117.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

Told you I'm ready.

Um seventeen, so that's port authority.

Discussion about the feasibility of the Detroit River Ferry Service.

Councilmember uh Callaway.

Member Callaway, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Um motion to move this to the closing resolution for a expanded discussion on the possibility of having a Detroit River Ferry Service.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for closing resolution language for line item 117.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, line 118, still port authority.

Discussion on the Detroit Wayne County Port Authority Master Concession Agreement.

Councilmember Santiago Romero.

Member Santiago Romero, that's a big one.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Agreed.

I think there's a lot of possibilities uh here and a lot of resources that we can uh gain from uh a uh a change master concession agreement.

So motion to add this to closing resolution.

Um we might move with the resolution as a as a body, we shall see.

But for now, we can move this to closing resolution and we will continue to do the work to change this agreement.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for closing resolution language for line line item 118.

Any objections?

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, we're going now to line 119.

Uh the Charles H.

Wright Museum of African American History.

Increase budget by 7.788 million dollars.

7 million.78 million for the Wright Museum Capital Improvements.

Councilmember Benson.

Motion to approve Member Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item nine 119, colleagues.

Any objections?

Mr.

President.

And this is one-time funding.

Mr.

Johnson.

Yeah.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

We don't have the resources to fund this.

If we were going to fund this, we would have to essentially defund the fleet replacement plan for fiscal 27.

The IPA has come to an end, and we are not currently looking to finance the fleet moving forward, at least at this time in the current credit environment.

And so we are relying on that cash capital allocation to purchase new public safety vehicles for next year.

This would absolutely reduce the ability to buy vehicles.

Discussion.

Correct.

Through the chair, yes.

Motion to place this to pin this.

I'd like to have a deeper conversation with the administration to find out there's anything that we can do.

And if not, obviously not going to place the city in jeopardy, but gotta have some type of understanding of how we're going to move this forward because we still have that 7.78 million worth of improvements and chillers.

We've got other items that need to be funded this year, or else work will stop.

We don't want that to happen.

Let's find out what we can do.

We'll have the conversation, hopefully tomorrow.

Okay, Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you.

All right.

There was a request to pin line item 119, colleagues.

120, Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

Um it's still the um uh museum african American history.

Um Pro Tim's not here.

This is item.

So it's okay.

Okay, we want to pin that then.

Yes, sir.

Okay, pin it.

Okay, so we had line 121.

Um, this is Detroit Building Authority.

Market Detroit Building Authority commercial properties to further discuss the relationship between the city and city brokers and those efforts.

Councilmember um McCam, we're not here.

So we'll pin that.

Yes, sir.

Okay, we'll pin it.

Okay, line 122.

Media services.

Provide media services in multiple languages, specifically around the channel that is non-English.

Councilmember Santiago Romero.

Member Santiago Romero just arrived at the table.

You need a catch a breath.

No, I'm okay.

If we can put a pin on this, Mr.

President.

All right.

Request for a pin for line item one twenty two.

Uh and Mr.

Corley, if we can also pin line item 123, which is mine right underneath it.

Still having conversations with the uh department.

Okay.

Uh point of information, Member Benson.

What's this position of 121?

Pin.

Okay, thank you.

And if we can also pin line items 124 as well.

Oh, I'm sorry, 124.

Okay.

All right.

So we're down at line 125.

Umcreased budget by six million.

Uh, this is a one-timer to establish a capital improvement fund for historic, historical districts, and surrounding areas.

Councilmember Waters.

Member Waters.

Member Waters.

Pin it.

Pin.

There's a request for a pin for line item 125, colleagues.

All right, line 126.

Increase budget by 2.5 million.

This is one time for infrastructure improvements in the Boston Edison area.

Um, that's for Tim Young.

Pin that I think that's actually Member Waters and it's joining.

Okay, I'm sorry.

That's member waters.

I'm sorry.

Member Waters.

I'm gonna pin that too.

All right.

There's a request for a pin on line item 126, colleagues.

And we'll also put a pin in 127.

Okay.

Pro Tim Young is not with us at this moment.

Uh we will also pin line item 128 as well as 129.

And that leaves us at 130, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, that's um Detroit.

Um, that's a um institute of um ours, the IA.

Um photography program for the uh common Goleman A municipal center.

Um thank you, Mr.

President.

Would like to pin this.

I want to check with the building authority and with the DI on this first.

All right.

There's a request to pin line item 130, Mr.

Corley, which takes us to 131.

Yes, and we're now in the housing and revitalization department, HRD.

Discuss the city's willingness in supporting rehabbing 12 properties for historic buildings in District 2.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Callaway.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Yes, um, motion to move this into closing resolution.

Um, the full discussion on the 12 to 13 properties as identified by um HR director Julie Schneider.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Colleagues has a motion to place the language for uh one nine excuse me, one thirty-one into closing resolution.

Are there any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Okay, line 132.

HRD.

Use of the homeless prevention artificial intelligence system.

Councilmember Benson.

Senator Benson.

Um I believe this may be misnamed.

This is not my space.

I believe this is most likely best in name of uh the pro Tim.

Okay.

I believe.

Yeah.

Okay, I we'll we'll do that.

Um, Mr.

President.

All right, we'll put a pen in that item.

That's uh line item 132.

Okay.

Um that takes us to 133.

Okay.

Still HRD.

Increase budget to provide two million one time funding and gap funding to the fellowship chapel housing project.

Um Callaway and um Pro Tim Young.

Thank you.

Member Callaway.

Yes, um, motion to um we'll add this to the closing resolution and the two million dollars for executive session motion.

Excuse me.

There is a motion to first provide send this create language and place it into the closing resolution for line item 133.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

So further motion that was made to apply two million dollars in one-time funding for line item 133, colleagues.

Any objections?

Mr.

President.

With discussion, Mr.

Johnson.

Um through the chair.

Um, unfortunately, um, in talking with this about this item, who in talking about this item um uh with uh member the administration and the law department, this would not be general fund eligible.

We would be contributing funding to a private housing development project of which the sit to which the city is not a party.

So we don't believe that these funds would be able to be legally deployed for this development.

Mr.

Chair, further discussion?

Member Callaway.

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I know that um if we can't um use general funding, uh, if there's a possibility to use ARPA funding, I understand that we do have millions left over in ARPA ARPA funding.

So um I'd like to through the chair to yourself, Mr.

Johnson, if you could go and take perhaps take a look at the possibility of using ARPA dollars that have uh not been used um if they can earmark for another development because I know we've done uh I think we it was between three and six million dollars to a private developer for the plaza on West Grand Boulevard, ARPA dollars.

That is my that's that's that's a request through the chair to you, Mr.

Johnson.

If you can just go back and take a look at possibly uh finding ARPR dollars as we did for other developers who are private developers.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

And I know that member waters has made the request for a uh document indicating the availability of uh remaining ARPA dollars.

Mr.

Johnson, do you know when that document will be prepared and ready for review?

Uh Mr.

President, I don't have a timeline right now.

I need to go back and talk to the ARPA team.

Um so I will talk to um Terry Ms.

Ms.

Daniels, Terry Daniels um and her team and get a sense of uh where they are on that.

Um shouldn't shouldn't be much longer.

Um to the uh to council member Callaway's question.

Um I will go back and have the conversation.

Unfortunately, I'm giving you a caveat.

I'm just gonna be very transparent about it.

This development was not part of the original project list that was approved, and we are no longer allowed to create new projects under the federal guidelines.

So I will I will talk, I'll have the conversation, but I can't promise a particular outcome.

Further discussion, Mr.

Chair.

Member Calloway.

Thank you.

Um I know that um a couple of parks um we received funding that they weren't a part of the original plan for those buckets, but we've gotten them funded through ARPA dollars that were I think each council member got about 1.2 million dollars for their area, and none of what I put in the budget for the 1.2 million dollars was originally in um the budget for ARPA dollars, but because those dollars were uh located and hadn't been encumbered, then each council district got about 1.2 if I if if I'm not mistaken, it might have been more than that, and I um use mine to um upgrade to huge parks in district two.

But because those dollars were um located and hadn't been encumbered, then each council district got about 1.2 if I if if I'm not mistaken, it might have been more than that.

And I um use mine to um upgrade to huge parks in district two.

So I would like that same application for this particular project if the dollars can be found.

Thank you.

I'd like to pin this item, Mr.

Chair, and thank you.

Thank you.

Request HRD map and develop a reactivation plan to reactivate vacant and underutilized apartment buildings.

Councilmember Johnson.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um we do know that in 2018, HRD had a Detroit multifamily affordable housing strategy.

We're trying to understand what came out of that.

Um so we're still looking to hear back from HRD.

So I'd like to pin line item 134.

All right, colleagues.

There's a request for a pen on line item 134.

Uh line item 135, Mr.

Corley.

HRD still continue support for community land trust.

Um Member Johnson.

Councilmember Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'd like to uh move to add this to the closing resolution.

All right.

There's a request, colleagues, to place line the language for line item 135 into closing resolution.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley, 136, line 136, HRD still.

Request HRD to identify city owned property that can be utilized for transitional and emergency housing.

Councilmember Johnson.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'd like to pin 136.

All right, there's a request for a pen for line item 136, colleagues.

On to 136.

Well, uh, we're gonna pin 137, uh 138.

Uh, and that takes us to 139, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, so HRD, repurpose vacant school buildings, uh, coffee middle school, um, Mary McClun Bathon elementary middle school into affordable housing properties like the Higga bottom elementary school.

Councilmember Galloway.

Um, thank you, Mr.

Chair, thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Um we have language for the closing resolution, so uh my motion is to just leave this into um closing resolution.

All right, there's a motion to uh approve language for the closing resolution for line item 139, colleagues.

Any objection?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley, 140.

HRD funding for senior accessibility program.

Council Member Waters, member waters.

All right, thank you.

Um I'm gonna put it in closing resolution, but I'll also be looking at additional funding for this program uh via ARPA dollars.

All right.

At this moment, colleagues, there's a motion to uh send line item 40 closing resolution language for approval.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken, noting that uh member waters is seeking additional funding to provide um uh resources for that item.

All right, Mr.

Corley, 14141 HRD.

Implement city enforcement and kill switch for tokenized real estate.

Um pro Tim Young.

Pro Tim Young.

Yes, thank you.

This is thank you.

Um Mr.

President.

This is in regards to real tea, and basically we'll have I'm gonna move this over to close resolution.

But this is basically in regards to what happened with real tea.

Part of the problem that we have is that one, we didn't have a registration process that they need to register as important.

Also, we need to have a kill switch program for people that are trying to do tokenized real estate.

So tokenized real estate is basically where you take physical assets and you turn them into digitized assets, and then you could have people who could be able to invest in them by breaking up that asset.

It's good in terms of the technology piece of it, but we need to have proper regulations that we didn't have proper regulations.

So this would probably be part of a of a many things that I'll submit in terms of rules of the road, and I'll probably introduce this via ordinance as well.

But just the rules of the road in the future of how we deal with companies that are engaging in uh cryptocurrency and tokenization of assets.

So that's all so that that's that's a long way of saying I'm gonna make a motion for line item 141 to move that to closing resolution.

All right, there's a motion to move the language for line item 141 into closing resolution, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

All right, line 142 HRD.

Evaluate land use fees.

Councilmember Waters.

Member Waters.

Well, thank you so much.

This of course was born out of what Ms.

Varner has been talking about.

And the day that the mayor's office was at the table, they were not able to explain this land use fee and whether or not we could even reduce that fee.

It is astronomical, especially when community organizations are trying to do some things to improve their their neighborhoods.

So do you have a response for me now?

Uh Mr.

Johnson through you, Mr.

President.

Mr.

Johnson.

Um through the chair to council member waters.

So the fees schedule for the city for really any function or department is calculated by taking the cost of the operation, so the cost of the zoning staff and you know, also non-personnel expenses, the cost of the effort to process and implement let's say land like say a rezoning or a land use special use change or something like that.

So we take those costs of doing business, and then that's from that we calculate the fee with the intent that the fees are intended under the Bolt v.

Lansing ruling, our fees are calculated to only offset the actual cost of administering the operation so that it's a fee, it's not a tax.

Um so we would have the flexibility if we wished to pursue um or you know, look at an option for um there may be a way to look at options for uh reduced costs in certain circumstances.

Um again, this a lot of this is also governed by the state zoning statute.

Um I would I I'm not an expert on that.

I'll be very very upfront about that.

So I think we would need to talk quite a bit, and I think we would also need to include the law department to make sure we understand exactly what is required of us the way we assess these fees.

But I'm sure that there's probably something that can could be done.

Well, let me just ask you this right quick then.

Um is there is there an existing program where we could put some opera dollars and people could perhaps qualify under that such program.

Program that's already in existence.

Is it um through the chair?

I I'm I I would say probably not.

Um because you know, land use um, you know, and fees or you know, assistance in that way, that that was very much never part of any scope of anything that was done for ARPA.

So I do not believe at this time that would be something we would able to be able to use ARPA funding for.

Um that's not to say there may not be some other potential funding source.

I don't think that ARPA is the one, um, but I think we would need to have a much more robust discussion about what this looks like and how we're how we levy the fee.

Okay, so I I do look forward to that conversation on behalf of community organizations.

In fact, so at this time, Mr.

President, I move to place this in closing resolution.

There's a motion to place line item 142 in closing resolution with discussion.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I wonder if we might be able to um utilize dollars as a part of the neighborhood beautification grant program to apply to the fees.

Mr.

Johnson.

Uh through the chair to council member Johnson.

It's a I mean, that's a very interesting idea.

I I don't initially can't see why not that it wouldn't be part of like the part of the grant would be to help offset those sorts of costs.

Um, I need to go back to the folks who administer specifically administer that program and make sure there isn't something I'm not aware of, but I can't I couldn't see why not uh uh uh for the initial read.

That's not a definitive answer, but it's uh I think we could keep that alive, that discussion for sure.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor to place uh line item 142 into closing resolution.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken, noting that still waiting for a response for potential movement on line item 142.

Okay, line 143 HRD.

Increase funding support for the Detroit Housing Network.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Um we can remove this line item.

All right, there's a request to remove line item 143.

Any objections?

None that action shall be taken.

Mr.

President, if it's okay, um go back to the previous page and address um consum.

Um I'm sorry, Pro Tim Young's items.

Then we're uh that's okay.

Um started at one twenty, I think.

Yes.

No, I'm sorry, one sixteen.

I think we did those yesterday.

So discussed it.

We but we put a we put a pin in the 16th.

We put a pen in 116.

Yeah, we put a pen in 116.

Oh, so we're keeping that pen.

I'm sorry, Ms.

President.

Just discussion.

Uh Pro Tim Young.

I I kept it in there.

I thought members might want to discuss that.

I really don't see why we're not we don't have enough money to be able to fund it.

So, you know, we just you know torturing me and making me feel like a man without a country.

So as far as I'm concerned, let's just move this.

I mean, unless there's somebody else that wants to discuss this, I think I made a pretty clear case of why we should do this, but uh unfortunately we don't have the money, so I think we should just move this to closing resolution.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion to place line item 116 and closing resolution.

Any objections?

Here none.

That action shall be taken.

And Mr.

President, you would also move to remove the 1.5 million from one time?

Yes.

There's a motion, colleagues, uh, to remove the dollar amount of 1.5 million in one time general fund uh for line item 116.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

Okay, and then um line 120 was also associated with Pro Tim Young.

Um increasing the budget by 700,000.

That would result in a 3.3 million dollar operating support for the museum African American history.

2.6 million is is currently in the proposed budget.

And so um this would increase it to 700,000 to get to the request from the museum of a total of 3.2.

I'm sorry, 3.3 million.

So uh Pro Tim Young.

Pro Tim Young.

Yes, this was something I wanted to do in order to uh request to add additional operating support for the Charles H.

Wright Museum.

Uh, this is something that they have requested.

Not that it's something I want to do to support this.

I don't know if we have, I don't think we have the money for this either.

So what I but what I would like to do is at least like let's put a pin in this for now.

Let me see if I could talk to the administration or see maybe there might be some other funds that we can find in order to be able to do this.

And um, because I've been so busy doing with some analysis for some other priorities.

I will come back and give a full thorough analysis of why we should be able to approve this as well as all of my requests.

But uh for now, I think it'd be better if we just put a pin in this.

Colleagues, line item 120 shall remain pinned.

Okay.

Uh let's jump down to line 126.

No, we we got a pin there.

Okay, we got a pin there.

Okay, can well one?

Yeah, yeah.

That's that's not mine.

127.

127, yes.

Restore um the city's pension systems power and control of the investment committee.

Custom uh pro Tim Young.

Pro Tim Young.

Yeah, I think this is an incredibly important uh program.

I think that the city of Detroit should have um control of its investments uh for its pensions.

Currently we do not.

We lost that via the bankruptcy.

Um, but that would be state policy, that wouldn't be city policy.

So I we could just move that to closing resolution.

I appreciate it.

So a motion to move line item 127 to closing resolution.

There's request colleagues to place line uh the language for line item 127 into closing resolution.

Any objections see none that action shall be taken.

Okay, Mr.

President.

Now we can go to page 11.

And we will start at the top, and uh this will be line 144.

Discussion.

Oh, yes, is it we miss line 120?

Oh, hold on.

Member Benson.

Did we miss 129 to 132?

No.

Yeah, well, yeah, because that's my discussion on smart bonding.

Yes.

128, Mr.

Corley.

128.

Mr.

Chair, 129.

No, I'm sorry, 129.

129, yeah.

Oh, okay.

Okay, thank you.

Um, nine parameters discussion on smart bonding.

Oh pro tem young.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

President.

Uh thank you, Ms.

Quarley.

Smart bonds are basically their are government or municipal bonds enhanced with digital technology, especially blockchain that's distributed ledger tech.

That's a dig this distributed digital ledger technology.

So that's basically an immute.

It's a non you cannot change an immutable digital ledger that cannot be changed.

Uh, it will be used to automate, track, and optimize how public optimized how public debt is issued, managed, and repaid.

So think of it like this traditional municipal bonds plus automation plus real-time transparency, plus programmable rules.

I think in order to do this first, we need to have some rules of the road.

So I'll probably be having this in ordinance.

It's probably more ordinance heavy, something I want to pass first, and you know, before I give it to the full introduction in this, and I would want it, and I wouldn't want to do this just from a bonding standpoint.

I want to do this from an overall financial standpoint, not just in terms of bonds, but also in terms of metrics, how the city's how the city's metrics, how its finances are metric are measured, and also smart contracting.

Because most of that is going to be done through that process.

That's a real long educational process.

So through this, I would just like to move this to this is line item 29.

I'm like a new line item 29 to closing resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to place line item 129 into closing resolution, the language.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Okay, now we can go Mr.

President of page 11.

What you for missed uh line on uh 132.

That wasn't Scott Benson, that was me.

The whole thing.

Oh, yes, yes, yeah.

Thank you so much.

But as I love member Benson, that's right.

So we love you as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's my idea.

Yeah, okay.

Thank you, sorry.

132, HRD.

Use of the homeless prevention official intelligence system, pro tem young.

Yeah, this is too.

Oh, sorry, thank you, Ms.

President.

Uh, this is basically would be a program where it would be it would be uh proactive instead of reactive.

We could from records we could from um people who are more vulnerable through the artificial intelligence be able to identify who would be more likely to become homeless, and then we could be able to implement and we actually offer services to those individuals based on those conditions, based on records, based on um you know salaries and things of that nature, unemployment rates and other information.

Uh this is a heavy price tag.

I I I I it's based on the program that they had in Los Angeles County.

Uh, I think it's like 32 million, something that mark we don't have the funds to be able to do this.

And I also think quite frankly, it'd probably be better off if you did this via contract anyway, because I'm assuming you're gonna have to have some consultants to go along with this and companies that you want to have, and this would be better if it was part of an overall smart city uh internet of things package.

So I am going to move line item.

I'm gonna make a motion, I'm making a motion for line item 132 to be moved into the closing resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to place the con the language for a line item 132 into closing resolution.

Are there any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Okay.

Um so we're now page 11 at the top, line 144.

This is HRD slash Detroit Economic Growth Corporation, D E G C Increase Funding for the Green Grocer Program.

Pro Tim, yeah.

Pro Tim.

Thank you, uh, Mr.

President.

Yes, I am requesting five hundred and twenty-five dollars into the green grosser program.

And I would like to explain where that money is going.

So the program budget is $125.

That's a two-year launch.

Uh the grant is gonna be for a pilot for eight stores.

The grant allocation in purse stores up to $25,000.

That's the grants that they receive.

That's for uh business grocery stores, equipment plus their inventory.

Uh eight stores, that's a total store pilot, $200,000 in direct grants.

Uh, that's for the administration, TA.

Uh your technical assistant, your technical assistance, that's what TA represents.

Per store is $5K to $15K.

That's business planning plus operations, your administrator, your administration program overhead, that is 20 to 30% of the budget.

So your DEGC staffing and compliance.

So the overall it is, yeah.

So the whole package overall, about $525,000.

So I like to make a motion to put $525,000 into line item 144.

Would that be one time pro two?

One time.

All right, colleagues.

There's a motion on the floor for $525,000, one-time funding for line item 144.

Are there any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Okay.

Line 145.

DGC.

thousand dollars so I like to make a motion to to put five hundred and twenty five thousand dollars into line item one hundred and forty four would there be one time proleagues there's a motion on the floor for five hundred and twenty five thousand dollars one-time funding for line item one forty four are there any objections seeing none then action shall be taken okay line 145 DGC increase the budget by 50 thousand dollars for the DDA slash DGC to support card events throughout the city of Detroit uh councilmember Benson motion to motion to approve it's a motion to approve uh the 5000 excuse me five fifty thousand dollars excuse me uh one time general fund for line item one forty five are there any objections with discussion member calling um thank you mr chair um through yourself to member benzen um so the DDA this $50,000 can be used outside of like the downtown midtown area it could be used in district one to um non-Detroit location sir discussion member Benson as it was used last year along the Avenue of fashion that is true the DDA money cannot but the DEGC money which was used I believe for the holiday event can be used outside the downtown okay um thank you through the through the chair to ms member benson I'm not aware of that but I'm definitely going to look into it and you said that through the chair to yourself the DE the DEGC donated dollars to the Avenue of fashion for our holiday event if I'm not mistaken member member member member benson if I'm not mistaken I saw the lights replaced their last year because this was a conversation we had the table last year regarding those dollars.

Okay so through the through the chair to member Benson um so for the lights for 2024 those were donated by a private um donor and then the ones from last year came from the Kreske foundation okay so I would love to know um if they did donate then there might have been a double donation which means we'll have lights for 2026.

Thank you Mr.

Chair I'll look into it you colleagues there's a motion on the floor are there any objections saying none that action shall be taken for line item 145 okay line 146 DGC database analysis on structures on commercial corridors in this in all city districts starting with district one database and an analysis to include legacy businesses president's eight thank you mr core if we can pin that item please certainly want that so you know at first we'll place the item into closing resolutions can I get a motion colleagues as a motion to place the language for line item 146 that we've already drafted we'll get that to you for closing resolution any objections see none that action shall be taken um please note uh mr corley we will be looking for a dollar amount to go into that item as well but we're still having discussions at this moment so we'll pin that portion of it okay line 147 Mr Corley instead of going to the new ones we have member McCampbell back here now so uh would you like to go back yeah that started at 117 yeah that would be where we left off yesterday so on page nine uh mr president line 121 that's Detroit Binning authority market Detroit Binning Authority commercial properties to further discuss the relationship between a city and city brokers and and those efforts council member McCampbell member McCampbell thank you Mr.

Chair uh can we pin this one we're still in conversation with or actually um motion to remove this item please colleagues there's a motion to remove line item 121 from the spreadsheet any objection see none that action shall be taken okay the next one would be go to page 10 128 okay at the top there line 128 uh 90 department urge the administration to continue increased junior fund support for did that uh council member member camel member mcampbell thank you mr chair definitely want to move this to close the resolution i as you know last night we heard quite a bit about this as well in public uh at the public hearing so i may have further action on this but a motion to move to close the resolution that's a motion colleagues to move line item one twenty eight to closing resolution any objections seeing none that action shall be taken discussion with discussion member Santiago Romero thank you mr president to you through our OCFO's office there was a lot of discussion for this last night um and council's being painted as if we've we've redocked if as if we've reduced the 14 million to D D dot's budgets um this is a priority of the mayor and no so just wondering what happens and uh why we decided to to to reduce I know we are adding more but that does not help us add the money to DON's so just wondering why what was the process and what was the thinking in that thank you member mr johnson uh thank you mr uh president through you to uh council member santiago romero and and really to the whole council because I know you had a lot of but there were a lot of public comment last night so the general fund support for the for DDOT is not the only funding for D D dot it it's one of sort of a constellation of funding sources that fund D dot year over year we have again done a historic increase to D D dot's total

So just wondering why what was the process and what was the thinking in that.

Thank you, Member Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Through you to uh Councilmember Santiago Romero and really to the whole council, because I know you had a lot of but there were a lot of public comment last night.

So the general fund support for the for D DOT is not the only funding for D D DOT.

It's one of sort of a constellation of funding sources that fund D D dot.

Year over year, we have again done a historic increase to DDOT's total funding.

And I think I think the focus that I would encourage folks to keep their eyes on is the total funding for D DOT.

Um we are never gonna be in a position where the general fund can carry everything all the time.

And with the reduction in our general fund revenues in 27, we had to look for ways to not only maintain DDOT's funding but increase it because yes, it is uh this administration's it is a very high priority of this administration.

So in order to accomplish that, we did leverage a provision of state law that allowed us to transfer our MTF funding, Michigan Transportation Fund funding, over to transportation.

Um we feel that we are in a relatively good place when it comes to our resurfacing program, and that on balance we would rather focus some of those resources on transit.

Um and so on the whole, we were able to accomplish an increase to D DOT's funding for 27 despite having a decrease in our general fund.

So I would really strongly encourage folks to realize that a reduction in the general fund contribution is not an indicator of a lack of priority or a lack of um desire to do so.

It's simply the function of the resource allocation that we have to do every year.

And when we are faced with that kind of problem, we get creative and we find solutions so that we can continue the investment in D DOT.

So you know, I understand the general fund contribution has become sort of a um uh a focus point of of the thing, but I really want to continue to encourage folks to pull back and see that bigger picture of we are still achieving really great things, we are still achieving increases to D DOT's budget.

Um, despite that.

Um the general fund may not always be able to be one of the primary resources.

It's just that's the nature of the world that we live in in the revenue environment we live in.

But this administration is committed to always finding some another way to ensure that D DOT is not harmed in those circumstances.

The president.

Um thank you.

Through you to Mr.

Johnson, thank you.

And then my only follow-up is if we were to keep the 14 million from the general funds, would D DOT be prepared to spend it?

Because we have also been told that sometimes the if it's there, it's not going to be used due to capacity.

Was that discussed at all in in making this decision?

Um through the chair to Councilmember Santiago Romero, yes.

So this is a very big part of our internal conversations about D DOT budget.

Um, is that you know, I know there's always a a lot of support and pressure to really radically increase the budget.

The reality is no organization, no entity can absorb a huge amount of resources and then deploy them.

You know, we would have to go undergo a lot of analysis of service levels.

Um I think what Director Kramer has been, you know, very candid about with the public when he meets with them is I simply would not be able to deploy.

You know, if you gave me 100 million dollars more, I would not be able to deploy 100 million dollars.

These are the sorts of things you have to ramp up over time, and I know that incrementalism never makes people happy.

I know that is never satisfying.

I I'm a human being as well, and there are many things I would like to happen quickly.

Um, but in this case, because of the size and the nature of the operation, we have to, as um Councilmember Benson will say, eat the elephant by each bite.

We cannot simply dump a hundred million dollars into data and expect that in that same fiscal year, it's all gonna go out the door.

It would just a lot of it would just sit there.

So we're ramping up those plans and we're building that.

That's why every year the dollars are growing.

We are increasing D DOT's budget gradually as we figure out how that gets deployed and what that means for service levels.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

President.

Through you to member McCampbell, this is something that we hear often.

And uh we heard this last year too when we were being asked to double D DOT.

And we did, I believe I made the motion to do so.

We didn't have the money, but I did motion to add, I believe two million dollars additionally for um infrastructure repairs as in shelters and benches and things like that.

Just want to flag that for us to also consider as we're thinking about the D DOT system.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Discussion.

Uh, with further discussion, thank you.

Approaching you.

Umson, um, what about uh the approach of infrastructure banks and public private partnerships?

Been something that has ever been thought of to deal with that issue.

Um or just or just to fund infrastructure repair.

I would say through through the chair, um to to you, pro tem young.

Um I'm I'm certain it probably has been part of conversations internally in DDO as they talk through over the last few directors, I'm sure, including Director Kramer, about all kinds of possible scenarios.

I think for us, I don't know that we would have a ready uh a plan to know what that would look like.

I think that would take quite a lot of um discussion and analysis.

I think that kind of plan um would be um I think it would propose a lot of unique challenges, um, particularly as it relates to the way our federal funding works and and how you're able to structure those sorts of things.

So I'm certain there probably has been thought in that regard.

I'm not necessarily personally familiar with it.

Um it's something I can definitely go back and ask about.

Um, but I would say that's not something we would be ready to engage on in a meaningful way in the near future.

That would be a very long-term serious conversation to be had.

No, that's no problem.

Then I just want to ask them, I'm gonna wrap up.

I just also wanted to ask you what about transportation network companies.

Before we go forward, uh pro tem we uh have a three o'clock cutoff.

I'll send it something to you.

Okay.

I'll send this out to you.

Thank you.

I appreciate you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Discussion.

Uh, with further discussion.

Uh just to wrap this up, uh, thank you, Mr.

Johnson, on this.

I uh I hear you on the general fund and also thank you, Member Santeo Romero on the history uh aspect of this.

For me, it is uh I understand the need to look at all the funding possible we have.

Uh we had talked about this before as well.

Um understanding that the surface and reservicing program is where it is right now.

We know we know how Michigan winters are and such, and we don't know how the roads will be next year.

So my concern is that when if that money is still needed for our roads and if it's a pullback from D D DOT, then we will be faced with an even larger hit for our general fund if we have to recuperate those funds.

But I understand that what we're looking at right now in the this area.

So that's why I put this for moving forward on a general fund, but I also for this fiscal year, um, as we had conversation about infrastructure needs around in district seven, um, as well around the seeding uh uh seats at the stops.

I understand there's a federal process with shelters.

Um but for me, when I see those plans and also when we hear about conditions on buses and such, that tells me that there's still a funding need.

Um that while uh a department may not be able to take a hundred million dollars in, um, there's still a need for whether that's hire more folks to clean the buses or putting more uh seats there.

So I I'm I'm still not completely there on that shift there.

So I was I I know we moved this to closing session, but I would still like to pin this item for exactly session because I may have a dollar amount to come back with.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Corley.

If you can please note Mr.

President, if I might offer just a just one more um thing.

Um I I I want to stress that you know there we're not intending to scale back the level of road resurfacing or things like that.

Fortunately, because of the additional state funding under the new road funding plan, that's what really gave us that breathing room.

We can maintain the current level of road resurfacing programming and still have the cushion to put this over um uh to D DOT.

So that was you know, and there are always opportunity costs um and you just sort of have to make the call.

Right now, our priority is transit and continuing to make that investment to get to traders where they need to go.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, Mr.

President.

Um we can go down to line 137 on page 10.

Um HRD.

Urge HRD to ensure in field housing units are accessibility accommodations.

Um council member McCann.

Member McCampbell motion to move to a closing resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to move the language for line item 137 to closing resolution.

Are there any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Okay, and line 138.

HRD require all housing initiatives to prioritize workforce development and skill trades development for Detroiters.

Councilman uh McCammel.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'll have uh more uh defined language on this but motion to move to closing resolution.

There's a motion to place line item 136 into excuse me, 138 into closing resolution.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Okay, Ms.

President, I think you know we can go back to page 11.

Yes, sir.

Um line 147, DGC.

Discussion to create a construction mitigation fund for businesses where operations are disrupted as a result of city infrastructure projects or other utilities like DTE.

Council um President Tate.

Still working through that one based on the different entities that would have to work on it.

So we'd like to pin this item.

Okay.

Pend the item for a dollar amount, but would like to place this item into closing resolution as well.

Can I get a motion, colleagues, please?

There's a motion.

There's a motion for closing resolution for line item 147 with discussion, Member Benson.

Mr.

President, if you all could also just look at the ability if we can't find the money to identify the ability to do a zero percent interest loan program as an option as well.

Just a discussion point.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Okay.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

So you did up.

Council did approve the closing resolution.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay.

Line 148, DGC.

Small business support, particularly in the areas of coaching, technical assistance, and leadership development.

Councilmember Waters.

Member Waters.

Yes.

Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I did give out a packet to my to my colleagues on yesterday.

I also sent a packet to the administration as it relates to technical assistance.

Of course, the dollar amount that I wanted to put in there yesterday was way too high.

So this just isn't funding.

Just to name a few.

So we're going to focus on businesses that already receive city funding, commercial corridor, retail spaces, city procurement vendors, trade-based entrepreneurs, so that we can invest in them and we will have increased revenue, more jobs, stronger demand.

So I just wanted to list a few things.

But I don't know if that is to be true.

Number one for um businesses.

So I want to look at it two ways, if if you don't mind, just to ask you if in fact we can add identify a funding source for this using Opera dollars.

Maybe we can give some OPRA dollars to DEGC or something somewhere to ensure that we receive dollars for technical assistance.

So and that can't happen today.

So but I wanted to through you, Mr.

President, give Mr.

Johnson something to think about because I I at least want to have this conversation tomorrow.

Okay.

So I'm going to uh put a put a pin in it for now.

Thank you.

Thank you.

There was a request for a pin for line item 146, colleagues.

Excuse me, 148, my eyes.

148.

Let's also pin line item 149 as well.

Okay.

Line 150, DGC, the entire motor city match program to provide long-term support to small businesses.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Callaway.

Um thank you so much, Mr.

Cory.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um whereas the Motor City Match program has allowed many businesses to start operations only to have the business spell within one year, which is what I mentioned when the mayor's office was here.

City Council urges the administration and the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation to explore ways to assist local business continue profitable operations.

And uh Mr.

Chair, this also goes to, if I might add, Member Waters request on line 148 for technical assistance, coaching, et cetera, for small businesses.

Um and what happens with the motor city match, Mr.

Chair.

Um I can only speak for the ones that I'm aware of in District 2.

They don't make it after a year or so, 18 months, they're gone.

So I guess this also uh goes to Member Waters 148.

So I guess I can remove uh I'll make a motion to remove line item 150 and hopefully join member waters on line 148 because it's similar.

It's small business technical support, coaching and assistance, Mr.

Chair.

So I move to remove line item 150.

College is a motion to remove line item 150 from the spreadsheet.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

And uh member uh Callaway, uh I believe you indicated you wanted to join Member Waters in 148.

Yes, that is correct, sir.

All right, Mr.

Corley, if you can please note.

Okay, thank you.

Insurance for small businesses to prevent them from opening today and closing tomorrow.

Um prompting for the discussion about rising insurance costs for all small businesses across the city.

Councilmember uh Callaway, Callaway.

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair, Mr.

Corley.

Um, I'm going to remove this and put that insurance conversation into um the conversation that member waters has prompted from line item um forty-eight.

So uh motion to remove line item 151.

Colleagues, there's a motion to remove line item 151 from the agenda.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right, uh line 152 DGC, urge an advocacy to DGC to support and actively participate in the writing of legislation, for instance, zoning amendments to protect and provide rules for data centers within the city of Detroit.

Proposed moratorium will allow for the writing of the completion of this within the next six months.

Member Benson.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve the language for closing resolution for line item 152.

Any objections, colleagues?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Um Mr.

President, it is three o'clock on the dot.

You want to stop here and we have pick up at line 153 in the morning.

Can we can we can we can we clean the sheet up?

Okay, finish up this page.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Uh line 153 DGC.

The next up 313 program.

Councilmember Waters.

Member Waters.

Oh, thank you.

Uh I move to place it in closing resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to place line item 153 into closing resolution.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley.

Line 154.

We're not going into the Detroit Employment Solutions Corporation.

That's a DESC.

Coordination between the city and the HRDESC on creating a plan for employment opportunities in District 6 with expansion to District 7 and citywide.

Councilmember Santa Romero.

Member Santiago.

Thank you.

Um through you to Member McCampbell.

Closing resolution for this.

I'm assuming we're okay with.

So would you like to say I listen to closing resolution, Mr.

President?

There's a motion to uh place line item 154 into closing resolution.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

All right.

Line 155, DESC.

Increase budget by 2050,000 for skill trace city funding recurring 250,000.

Councilmember Waters.

Member Waters.

Thank you.

Um two motions.

One is to add it back.

It was removed.

It was recurring.

Um so I want the motion to um to replace it.

Okay.

There's a motion to uh specifically 250,000 dollars, member waters.

Yes, that's exactly what it what it was.

It was recurring too, so it made no sense for it to be removed.

Yes, ma'am.

There's a request uh colleagues to place line item excuse me, 250,000 dollars reoccurring funding into line item 155.

Are there any objections with discussion?

I heard it somewhere.

Uh oh, member McCampbell.

Thank you.

Um through you, Mr.

Chair, uh Member Waters if I can join you on this.

Yes.

Thank you.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

Um before we motion.

Uh is there a motion?

Uh are there any objections for line item 154?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Further motion, member waters.

Um, yes, I I uh to move the agency name will be DWSD and not DESC.

That's my motion.

Um there's a motion on the floor, member waters.

What is what can you tell us what that stands for?

What that would stand for?

Detroit Water and Sewage Department.

Oh, I'm I want I'm a removing it from the deployment uh Detroit Employment Solutions to DWSD.

Okay, I thought you were just changing the name.

No, no.

I'm like, hold on.

Okay, all right, colleagues.

Uh, would like to uh tr remove the DESC entity from this particular line item uh and put that into the department the water department, yes.

Water and sewage department.

Yes.

Discussion.

Um there's a motion on the floor with discussion, member Callaway.

Um just thank you.

Thank you, uh Mr.

Chair.

Um through yourself to Member Waters.

Um is it because the water department might have more money, more resources?

Because if that's the case, I we can choose what agency can fund these projects.

How does that work through your well member waters?

Um thank you, Mr.

President.

This this decision, number one, DESC re removed it.

So people did not receive the help that they should have received under that particular department.

Uh, when I had conversations with uh let the labor unions, they talked to me about how people can receive and when they have when they're in these apprenticeship programs, uh, and they listed each department uh in order of priority.

DWSD was the number one where they believe they would receive direct training.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor.

Any further discussion?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

All right, line 156, DESC.

Increase the budget by 500,000 for a dining with confidence program, expansion to 18 months.

Councilmember Benson.

Member Vincent.

Thank you.

So there's going to be a motion to change the number from 500 to 200,000.

And what that does is it it allows for the expansion of the program to one year beginning on one July.

And for that 200,000, and this comes from those who are doing the training, we will be able to get 330 residents certified and serve safe food safety manager and serve safe customer service training.

And that would take place over the span of 12 months with getting approximately 30 residents per both trainings per month.

And that would result in a savings to each restaurant of $600 in free training for its employees.

The return on that investment will be increased revenues because of the increased food safety knowledge and customer retention and sales because of the customer service training.

And while can't say how many exactly, um, that would be 843 people trained.

And if you look at that on top of uh that with the 1800 uh licensed food establishments that receive um inspections, that's about 60 percent of the interest that we've seen so far, and that would be a 30 percent a trained staff for those food businesses.

So we would train about 30 percent of the uh the businesses in the city of Detroit if each of them went to a different business.

So great return on investment there.

Mr.

President's one time one time to 200,000.

One time, 200,000.

All right.

Colleagues, there's a request, there's a motion, excuse me, to uh amend the funding amount from 500,000 dollars to 200,000 dollars in line item 156.

Uh is there uh any objections?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

There is further uh motion to approve the language with the amended uh 200,000 dollars for line item 156.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Okay, last um item for the date, line 157.

Um DESC increase the budget by a million dollars for the B next program.

Um President Tate.

Uh Mr.

Corey would like to I would like to um amend this particular the language in this particular item to roll over uh the retain the remaining funds that are in the uh program as opposed to the one million dollars.

There may be additional funds after having additional conversation, but I don't know what that number looks like.

It won't be a million though.

I do know that.

Um but at this moment colleagues would like to uh amend the language for closing resolution uh to uh roll over the remaining funds in the B next program for the uh 27 fiscal year.

All right, can I get a motion?

Thank you.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

And so, Ms.

President, we will remove the million dollars.

Yes, please we'll remove the uh colleagues are gonna get a motion to remove the one million dollars.

Motion there's a motion to remove the one million dollars, noting that I mean it'll still come back with a dollar amount, but it won't be one million.

See no objections that action shall be taken.

All right, colleagues, that takes us to the end of the day for the spreadsheet, but we do still have public comment.

Would now like to open up for public comment.

If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak, please raise your hand now, whether you're in person or online.

Going once, going twice, going three times, collection of public comments have now concluded as I've mentioned during the duration of our budget period, our budget process, we will be having um uh shortened abbreviated uh public comment time.

We will be having um uh shortened abbreviated uh public comment time.

So we will take the clock to one minute.

I don't see anyone in the committee of the whole with any hands.

Team, how many callers do we have online?

And who do we have first?

We have four callers online, sir.

And your first caller is all right.

Tyson Gersh, the floor is yours.

You have one minute.

General public comment.

Thanks.

Um was I guess I'm a little confused when we're gonna get the chance for a full comment.

Um, and then um I'm on the city council agenda, and whatever document was on the screen isn't attached, so it's a little hard to follow along.

Um and then I I hope that wasn't the full conversation about the BZA budget.

Um there's a lot of things that need to be addressed that many of your constituents have been bringing to you repeatedly over the last year or two years.

Um also the caseload chart is has like clear math errors on it.

The caseload did not increase.

Um it was like by 50 percent, but the revenue tripled, and there's still no explanation of how the BZA's revenue tripled in fiscal year 24, which is also when the abrupt change in charging people thousands of dollars for transcripts occurred without any change or authorization from city council.

Um thank you so much.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is William M.

Davis.

Mr.

William M.

Davis, the floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Uh good afternoon.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

In the event, there's still some opera money available.

I know part of the categories did include recreation.

So if there is, that would be an a great opportunity to make sure that district seven actually have at least one fully functioning recreational center.

Because now we don't, and we only have one library.

You know, so I think that district seven is and continues to be short change in relationship to all the other districts.

Uh so that's all I have to say for now.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is Beverly A.

Varner.

Ms.

Verner, the floor is yours.

You have one minute.

General public comment.

Uh good afternoon.

This is Betty A.

Varner, president of the soda elsewhere.

Uh uh president of the Soda Elsewhere Black Association.

Uh administration, uh, I'm hoping that Mayor Sheffield will consider waiving that $1,500 fee for that land use hearing for black clubs, associations, and 501c3.

Um, thank you, Councilmember Johnson, for the suggestion of that neighborhood beautification grant application.

Uh, that's a good idea, but that application creates a problem for some black clubs.

Uh, we have been fortunate to get four um grants, but that it's not easy application.

The city should consider waiv that fee for organizations who are doing the work that they've asked us to do in the community.

Thank you, council member Walker.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Uh our last caller is owner Papa.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

We have one minute general public comment.

Thank you, and the chair may I be heard.

Yes.

Thank you.

Um, I'm sorry, Mr.

Uh, the councilman Benson left, but when he compared the two uh Birmingham and Detroit, he also has to consider the school systems.

Uh many people choose Birmingham because of the school system.

Item 152 is a what you said a six-month study, but I believe the when it came to the table, it was a two-year moratorium on it.

And uh, I didn't know that a moratorium meant less let's look at it.

I'm not sure if people understand that in the Iran war that a majority, not a majority, but several targets were data centers by Amazon, uh, AWS and Oracle.

Um, you have to understand that they don't suggest you put data centers where people are uh nestled in between where people are.

Um, and 154 DESC.

Didn't we just have some bond thing this morning with them?

I don't want to do any more bonding with them.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And it takes us to the end of our public comments, Mr.

Corley.

Give you the last word before we wrap up.

Uh thank you.

Thank you, uh Mr.

President and City Council members.

We made some more progress today, and uh we'll get back at it tomorrow.

We got about three more pages to finish up, and then we'll get into the um we'll get into the um sources of funding for council's changes, and uh we'll go from there.

Give us the uh scary message about making sure we have our language to you in time.

Yes, yes.

Um so we got tomorrow again.

Thanks to the committee chairs for suspending the um budget financial audit and neighborhoods committee services for Thursday, so we got a little extra time.

Um and so if we could get language, say by Thursday, if if not sooner, but definitely by Thursday, that would be great because we had a lot of items that went into closing resolution, you know, rightfully so.

But that's gonna be you know a huge document like last year.

Yeah, so we can get it soon as possible be great.

All right.

Thank you.

Colleagues, we're back at it at 10 a.m.

tomorrow morning.

Discussion with discussion, uh member Benson.

So maybe a suggestion would be we don't have the ability to do a consent agenda because we don't have that type of agenda during these sessions.

Maybe in lieu of a consent agenda, we could move all of the items that have been identified as closing resolution at once, the same way you do a consent agenda, and then have them go automatically to the closing resolution if there's no controversy on any of them.

And that would free up several hours of conversation around this.

And I can give you further details offline, but just a thought of how to speed this process up.

And then let's talk to you directly in the pro tem and then the parliamentarian after this.

We can talk logistics, not have a violation of open meetings act, but logistics we can talk about offline.

Oh receive the conversation.

Okay, thank you.

All right, colleagues, we shall stand adjourned until 10 a.m.

Mr.

Caller Chairman,