Good morning, everyone.

We are back in session for the expanded budget finance and audit standing committee for today, April 1st.

No fooling.

Okay, I got a little laugh, a little laugh.

It was funnier in my head, I promise you.

We're here for the executive sessions for today.

Oh, and our former colleague Fred Durha, I'm being told it's his birthday today.

Oh we just got a chance to see him.

I wish I would have been able to uh say happy birthday last night about similar text.

Uh Madam Clerk, I'm sorry.

Will you please call the roll?

Yes, good morning.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

President.

Councilmember Denzel McCampbell.

Councilmember Renata Miller.

Member Miller indicated that she would not be present today dealing with a personal issue as well as Member McCampbell did indicate that he would be uh delayed this morning as well.

Clerk will know.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Present.

Council President Pro Tim Coleman Young.

Here.

Council President James Tate.

Here.

Mr.

President, we have a quorum.

Thank you.

We have a quorum, which means we're now in session.

Colleagues, yesterday we left off page 158.

Want to get some rules of the road today and just a little guidance.

But then also want to uh discuss what time we want to wrap up this portion.

I know right now it's slated for what's that 12 from 10 until 12.

Started a little bit late, which is not much of an issue, but uh that leaves us with a pretty big gap in between uh what we would start the second executive session uh today at 2 p.m.

So wondering if we would be open to um going from now through 1 p.m.

and allowing us to recess at 1 and then reconvene at 2.

Is that how does that sound, colleagues?

Uh-huh.

Okay.

So that's what we shall do.

We shall uh start off uh this meeting uh now and we will uh recess until 1 p.m.

have a break and then return at 2 for the PM version of our executive session.

Uh yesterday, member Benson brought up a uh concept that um he believes may uh provide a bit more efficiency.

Always want to make sure that we have an opportunity to discuss these items at the table.

Member Benson, if you don't mind, the floor is yours, sir.

Thank you.

Um yesterday I had the thought that since the vast majority of our items go to closing resolution, and often closing resolution items take up to four minutes to discuss with not much in the way of changes.

Maybe we could just move them as blocks, and that way we don't have to have for every 10 items 30 minutes of conversation.

We can move them if they're if they're not controversial, they can easily be approved, and that way we'll be able to save time.

We're losing a day uh Friday, and and we have to obviously cut off on Tuesday at midnight.

So hopefully we're not gonna be here that late.

So we can expedite these as possible.

And so I'd look through mine, uh, and I have five closing resolution items left.

I'm prepared to move them as a block today.

They're not controversial, they don't have any monies attached to them, so there's really no need to negotiate.

But if others felt differently, more than happy to have the conversation.

But I just really think if we looked as a body, and I know others have more, and this is the third day or fourth day we've been doing this, and we could look to do this next year if it actually proves to be beneficial.

It's just a way to look to be more efficient and move faster to the table today and tomorrow and Monday and then Tuesday.

Yeah.

Thank thank you, uh Member Benson.

I I uh me personally, I think it's a great idea, great concept challenges that we are getting close to the end now, and I don't know if we need to always have that much commentary if we are doing uh closing resolutions.

So that may be something that members should be very mindful of as we are moving forward.

There's no issues, just move, approve, and go on to the next uh item.

Um but we do have some of these items that some members are in addition to asking for a closing resolution.

There's also a uh pen for a potential uh budgetary um uh adjustment or a financial uh component.

So uh colleagues, I don't know, Member Benson said that he would like to uh move his items uh in in that fashion.

Would you like for uh us to take up that as a body this year, this at this moment, or uh continue as we've been moving?

And that does not preclude Member Benson from moving his items clearly.

All right, we will just if if anyone would like to do so, we will uh allow for that to take place.

Uh anyone on this body.

All right, and uh we shall start off at 158.

And member Benson, when you're uh when an item comes up uh with your name on it, feel free to uh begin the the process.

Okay, Mr.

Corley, the floor is yours, sir.

Oh uh Madam Clerk, if you can know that we've been joined by Member McCampbell.

Thank you so much.

All right.

Good morning.

Um President Tate, Protown Young and City Council members.

I was so proud last night.

That was a wonderful state of the city.

Just proud.

First woman, mayor, African American.

You all look good too up there.

For that part, it is just lesson and honor.

I'm telling you.

Working for this city.

So love it.

Okay, page um 12 9 item 158.

HRD.

DESC.

That's Detroit Employment Solutions Corporation.

Increase budget by 500,000 for discussion around B next and similar program to expand target areas around the city.

Council Member McCampbell.

That's a one time.

Member McKenna.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Good morning, everyone.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Um, so this is around um uh seeing all the great things that are happening in the B next program um to make it a citywide um by having targeted areas across the city.

So I'm just my understanding that this would be um this would cost 500K.

So um motion to uh motion to approve this uh with this most there's a motion on the floor for line item 158 with discussion.

Uh so I know that uh member McCampbell uh our offices have been uh communicating along with member waters as well regarding uh the this particular item as well as item 157.

So yesterday I did take off uh the request for one million dollars uh for that particular item.

Um but I was going to be asking for that one million to be restored to allow for that um expansion uh that you were uh mentioning uh to take place because we still want the round of uh the current B next uh individuals and participants to benefit from the program, but want to ensure that we can extend through the next fiscal year as well as pick up any additional uh as needed.

So that was going to be my request for that one million dollars to allow for uh basically the combination of 157 and 158.

Um so I don't know if you've been briefed on that or or not, but just want to see how you feel about it.

All right, and we can pin them in them talk offline if you would like to do that.

Thank you, uh Mr.

Chair.

Absolutely.

Yes, that sounds good to me, and we can we can pin this in.

Um request a pin 158.

Okay, thank you.

Colleagues, that's a request to pin 158.

And we shall move to 159, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, D E S C Increase the budget by 70,000 for a special infusion to increase the pipeline into the trades and prioritize a training at Randolph.

Pro Tim Young.

Pro Tim Young.

One time.

Thank you, uh, Mr.

President.

Uh Mr.

Johnson, you want to play Let's Make a Deal real quick.

Uh through through um through the president to Pro Tim Young, um, I'm always game for let's make a deal.

Yeah.

So the reason was so I was asking was because this is something that's important to me, but I don't think we have the money for this.

Can we find it in other areas?

Or will you just promise me like your left arm that you will get some grants to be able to fund this $70,000 to continue this program?

Uh through the chair, I um you know, am not at this moment offering any body parts, but um I will say that you know $70,000 is um uh probably it's probably not likely to to be an amount that's going to move the needle on this kind of program.

I think what we need to do yesterday, um uh council member waters um was moving forward with her workforce, uh one of her workforce plans, and that um related to the um water and sewerage department.

Um right.

Um and I think that maybe if you were to go in together on that, that's fine.

That would be a great idea because I think that's gonna present us with a great opportunity to figure out how a new sort of revamped skilled trades apprenticeship pipeline goes.

Yeah, I think we know there's a robust conversation that needs to be had about it, but that also needs to be had with both the affected departments at the city, but also the unions, um, and determine which of the unions have the current training infrastructure in place, which have um you know masters who can volunteer to oversee journeymen, things like that.

So um I think that you know I I'm I'm I'm not gonna quibble over 70,000, but I do think that um what council member waters moved yesterday is probably gonna be the program where we really focus a lot of that conversation.

Um and so if you were to you know add this to that um and and join in on that, I think that would be a good path forward for you both.

No, I I I agree.

I I see I see where you're going with this because uh because otherwise I would say either you either as a grant or this could possibly be part of the grow Detroit's young talent.

But I think what you're talking about with DWSD, I think is much more encompassing, and I think it's uh it's a program that not a lot of people, especially a lot of Detroiters really get into that I would like to see have more apprenticeship in that process.

So I wanted to do that.

I just confused about the how do I make a motion to move this into her program?

What's the do I need to do I need to put do I put it in the close of resolution?

And then that does that.

What's the process for me to be able to do that?

And then what do I have to do to get that done?

What you requested?

Well, Ms.

President Corley.

Program, I suggest you keep it here, you know.

Um as is as is, and then um we can work out the details later.

But I think it's it's staying here would be fine.

So shall I just move to approve it then?

Yes.

And then you'll just you'll do the merger or whatever.

Okay, that's fine.

Okay.

So 159.

Thank you.

I like to make a motion to move to approve line of 159.

Colleagues, there's a motion to approve line item 159, noting that there uh will be some merging of items with the one that member waters uh put forward.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Okay.

160 DESC.

Work to establish relationships with local banks to ensure all youth members in the Grow Detroit Young Talent Program are banked.

Councilmember Benson.

Discussion with the I like to move line items 172, 173, 175.

Member Benson, you slow down just a little twenty.

Member Benson, just slow down a little bit for so we can I apologize.

So we can get 172, 173, 175, 185, and 22.

And those are for HRD, HRD, GSD, Office of Sustainability, GSD and the library.

And excuse me, I want to add line item 11 as well to that.

So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, um, continuing closing resolution items.

Line item 11 is construction that was pinned, and that was a request to place the entire construction budget into the executive session.

No longer want to do that.

Just want to add a closing resolution urging the administration to continue demolition of dangerous and glided structures along commercial corridors and in neighborhoods to improve the quality of life.

That would be the language for the closing resolution.

Line item 172 is what we just stated work to establish relationships with local banks.

That will be the closing resolution for Gorny Troy's young talent being joined by my colleagues.

Point uh information.

I will say uh member Benson, uh see in line item 172.

That one is in the name of uh member Santiago Romero.

172.

Mm-hmm.

That's to provide resources for public education on most common blight tickets.

I have 172 as work to establish relationships with local banks.

Um we're still using the same spreadsheet that we started out with on Monday.

That's what I'm using.

So what's your 173, Member Benson?

173 is HRD as part of youth financial literacy.

Yeah, that one uh is under member McCampbell, that's animal control 173.

That's animal control 173.

Um no, we have an extra.

We have an extra um, Mr.

President.

We can we can give that to Councilmember Benson.

So we are on 36 D D S C work to establish relationships with banks.

And you have that as what number?

Uh 100 um Mr.

President, one 160.

Yeah.

So 160, then uh 160 works with establish relationship with local banks, and then 161 is as part of youth financial literacy.

Strongly encourage youth members.

Yes.

So both of those move both of those to closing resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to move line items 160 and 161 to closing resolution.

Any objections?

See none.

The action shall be taken.

All right, Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

Um line 162.

We're now in police.

Discussion on lock and automatic license plate readers.

Got some member McCamillo.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, so this one to make it a little broader, broader.

This is around um surveillance technology contracts.

Um, and it'll be foreclosure resolution.

Uh, I can get the exact language, but just so folks for transparency to be clear, the starting of this city council urges the administration through the Detroit Police Department to conduct a media and comprehensive cost-benefit analysis of all current surveillance technology contracts with the presumption that any system failing to demonstrate clear, measurable, and independently verified public safety outcomes be discontinued.

Um City Council will further urge the administration to re redirect those resources to evidence-based public health strategy proven to both reduce violence and property crime.

Um, so that is the uh portion of the language uh motion to uh to close the resolution.

There's a motion to add line item 162 to closing resolution the language.

Any objections with discussion pro Tim Young.

Maybe McCampbell, this is just about the surveillance technology of license plate readers, right?

This is not also about um the artificial intelligence aspect in terms of collecting data and using that data to be able to predict crimes in the future.

This is not about that.

It's this is just about the actual surveillance in terms of being used, or is it also in terms of how the data that's collected from that is used?

How can we use to predict crimes in the future through predictive policing, other such things?

Uh through the chair.

Uh member McCaml.

Thank you.

Um Pro Tim Young, it would be including all of that.

So surveillance technology or not okay.

I got my own thoughts about that, but I'll talk to you about that later.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for approval um for closing resolution language for line items 162.

Any objections?

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

Okay.

Line 163, police city of Detroit to readopt the police mini stations policy.

Pro Tim Young.

Pro Tim Young.

Mr.

Johnson, you are a playmaker deal again.

If if I were to because basically I think this is like a this is a really good thing, it's a really good program, but I wanted to put this in actual um senior citizen buildings.

We all know about that shootout that took place over there in charity too.

I want to make sure that didn't happen again.

Also, Roberts 3.

There's been a lot of cases where you have people who are criminals that are going indoors now that are breaking into senior citizens' abilities that aren't supposed to be in there, that are sleeping in there, they're dealing drugs in there, that are assaulting people, they're doing other things in there.

So I want an actual police presence.

You know, they're going in there and they're also taking um catalytic converters off their cars and breaking the fences down over there they have there, and sometimes the security that's there is there or is it there or overwhelmed there?

But I don't think that's what the mayor wants.

I don't think she wants to be able to put those uh actually in the senior citizen building.

And I don't know if she wants to be able to spend the one million dollars to the actual build the um for the building of the sites for the equipment that you have, the staffing that's there.

I think that I think a million dollars is pretty pricey for two officers to and also take them off the street where they can be on the street.

So I know you have a program as a micro policing or a program called Serve Protect.

Can you promise me that see your citizen buildings, particularly based on need, will be checked on.

He promised me that Sheridan 2, particularly in Roberts 3, will have police officers there checking in on them to make sure that those citizens are safe.

You can promise you that I will move this to close the resolution.

Mr.

Johnson.

If you're authorized to do it, I'm not trying to get you in trouble here.

I'm just doing it.

I I cannot make promises on behalf of the chief of police or policing policy.

That is outside my remit.

Right.

Um, however, what I can say is, you know, I would encourage this to be a closing resolution item.

Um I do think that there is, you know, I think the mayor is absolutely supportive of a lot of different policing solutions, neighborhood focused, even building focused.

But I think there's a lot of logistics.

There's a lot of staffing things that we just have to work out.

Right.

Um, you know, because once you build one mini police station in one building, every large multifamily apartment building is gonna want that, and it's it's going to become a very difficult thing to keep keep hold of.

So I think continuing the conversation is really important.

I would say I don't think we're at a stage right now where we could put a dollar value to it.

I think it is just an ongoing conversation that would need to be had with um the chief and his command staff.

Um, and um and probably the board of police commissioners as well, get their take.

There, they represent their districts and their communities as well vis-a-vis policing.

So I think there's a great conversation to be had, and I I think that this probably is more appropriate for the closing resolution at this time.

That's not to say that it might not become something more in the future, but for now, I think it's still just a conversation.

No, no, absolutely, because I because I I'll I'll I'm looking at it and I'll just see it that you know, I mean, even if you had drones or something of that nature, it'd be a lot cheaper.

I'm looking at the capital costs like four million dollars for two stations annually, it'd be three million dollars.

So, I mean, so I so you so I understand so that's probably your um your capital expenditures and your um operating expenditure.

So I totally understand where you're coming from from that.

So with that being said, uh, I would like to make a motion to move this is line item one eighty one sixty three is a one eighty three.

160.

163.

I like to uh move line of 163 to close the resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to move the uh language for line item 163 into closing resolution.

Any objections?

None, then action shall be taken.

All right, 164 police.

Use of shell casing collision robots by the Detroit Police Department, Pro Tim Young.

Yeah, I think this is a great um technology, and I really think this would be something that would be able to help a lot of people in terms of collecting shells, cases, particularly for the police department that's trying to put it into the national integrated ballistics uh information uh system or or an information network or niving.

I think that'd be really good for us to be able to collect a lot of people, be able to trace a lot of crime guns.

Um, but I think that this technology is more experimental than it is actually viable.

But I think it's something that we should keep, you know, in regard for the future.

So that being said, I like to make a motion to move this item into closing resolution.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion to move the language for line item 164 into closing resolution.

Any objection?

Discussion with discussion, uh member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Through you to Pro Tim Young.

This is not the those police robot dogs type of things.

So we're okay.

This this discussion.

Uh discussion, if if I may.

Yes, sir.

That that is an excellent question, sir.

Uh no, this is not uh the robot dog.

Even though I have thought about that, but uh this is this is not what we're doing.

I uh there were there was some cases where there was some people who actually got hurt from uh these type of dogs, and I and I and I thought that'd be terrible.

One, if I actually approved something that did that, and secondly, someone actually got hurt or worse because of these things.

So no, this is this is not that.

These are just um machines usually gonna have their smaller like little tank wheels that just walk around and pick up um shell cases.

But that is a debate we can have in the future.

We probably will be talking about humanoid bots and things that nature in the future, but I'm not ready to have that discussion right now.

Thank you.

All right, colleagues, is there any objections to the language for closing resolution for line item 164?

See none, then action shall be taken.

All right, line 165, police has hospital violence intervention program.

Pro Tim Young.

Oh, Tim Young.

Uh let's put a pin in this for now.

All right, there's a request for a pen and 165, Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

We have 166 police wellness rooms for the Detroit police department, starting with the 12th precinct.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Calloway.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair, and to Mr.

Corley.

Um, I'd like to also bundle the um closing resolution items that I am not planning to attach a um dollar figure to if I might at this time.

Uh can we finish this line here?

Uh is this one of those items?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So the items that I'm about to list now just simply go into closing resolution with no dollar figure attached.

That would be line item 166.

Line item 169.

169.

We can just read it off.

Let's just read it off just to make sure we all know.

Line item, I'm sorry.

Mr.

Corley, that's the uh conversation about alley lighting and solar lighting.

Just wanted to read them off.

Yes, ma'am.

You want them read off individually.

And that line item 169 appeared to be uh member McCampbell's uh motion that he moved and you joined on that one sixty nine calloway.

All right, so I'll I'll I'll strike that since I did join him on that.

That would be I'll remain um joined on that particular line item.

And I just want to make it clear to colleagues, and we I had this conversation with LPD.

We're saying join, but at the end of the day, the reality is all of these items shall be in the name of the council.

So while we it feels good at the table to join, and it shows the support.

Yeah, the reality is these items are are all of ours.

So just wanted to put that on the record, not for one person, but for all of us, because I've joined as well.

All right, thank you.

Thank you for that clarification.

Let me go back to where I was.

Um line item 158, closing resolution line um, I'm sorry, 188.

188, 189, 190.

Member Calloway, hold one second, please.

Just again, just trying to make sure we got the record.

188 ma'am.

And that is to establish an official advisory committee to assist the programming and management of the band shell located at uh Palmer Park.

Yeah, yes, ma'am.

And the committee will be comprised of nine members, seven districts, one from each of the seven districts with two at-large members.

And then line item one eighty-nine alternative solutions to the management of the geese population across the city of Detroit.

Closing resolution.

No dollar figure attached.

Line item 190, alternative space for city youth residing in the seven-mile eight mile area along Cherry Lawn and Chippewa.

They do not have a rec center because the Johnson Rec Center was sold to a private entity.

It was public, then made private.

So those children over there are locked out of recreational resources.

Closing resolution, no dollar figure attached.

Line item 192, discussion of a family fund entertainment center that is four seasons.

Closing resolution to um build on that discussion.

I'm sorry.

Um thank you.

One ninety that's included on this list too.

I'm yeah, one ninety is closing resolution.

That is to have a discussion about having a recent um accessible to the children who live in that area.

Okay, thank you.

Their rec center was sold to a private entity, the University of Detroit Jesuit.

Line item 192, discussion of a family fund center for season closing resolution.

Um line item 201, 2.5 million dollars had already been approved for capital improvements.

We'll expand that conversation in closing resolution.

The funds were already there from two years ago.

And uh line item two zero four.

I think I joined um I know what you said, but I'm not gonna make any decision on this because I think I joined someone on this.

Yes, ma'am.

There are like four of us on it, yes, sir.

And then um I think that is it for me.

All right, so just to recap that the you indicated one line item one sixty six line item one eighty-eight, line item one eighty-nine, uh, line item one ninety, line item one ninety-two, line item two oh one colleagues.

There's a request for um closing resolution language to be approved uh for those particular items.

Yeah, and Mr.

Chair, if I might any objections with discussion, member Callaway.

Thank you.

And that closing resolution language, we have it um that we can provide today.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

And Mr.

President, um thank you, sir.

So I know Council Member Benson gave a list.

Did the council approve that?

Did they approve that list that you gave, or you want to hold off?

What list, Mr.

Corley?

Um, the list of items that you mentioned about uh the closing resolution was in the beginning.

I'm so sorry.

Yeah, he was still trying to you still trying to work that out.

Okay, gotcha.

Okay, okay.

Okay, great.

Okay.

Um thank you.

That we'll go back to page 12.

Um line 167, police.

The Detroit Police Department budget specifically around support for enforcement in city parks and recreation centers.

Member Benson.

67 is a motion to remove that's gonna show up in other line items.

Colleagues, there's a motion to remove line item 167 from the agenda.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

That's all right.

Let's try this again.

So motion to approve to the closing resolution, line item 175, 185.

175 and 220.

Um can you please read the language?

So 175.

That is create sustainability fund for off sustainability.

Okay.

Member Benson.

185 is coordinate between GSD security team, DPD, uh, park patrol, and Wayne County Sheriff's Office.

Road to reinforce efforts to re-establish park patrols.

And then line item 220, library is coordination between the city's administration, public library commission, and the library to work on issuing bonds for capital improvements for the Detroit Public Library.

All right.

Colleagues, there's a motion to move into closing resolution.

The language for line items 175, 185, and line item 220.

Are there any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

The motion to move line item 11 to closing resolution.

And that was the dangerous demolition.

Did that one get approved?

Said line item 11.

As a pen.

So motion to move the closing resolution with the language being urge the administration to continue demolition of dangerous and blighted structures along commercial corridors and in neighborhoods to improve quality of life.

Okay.

Colleagues, there's a motion for closing resolution language as been mentioned.

Um for line item 11 by member Benson.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

And then just move.

One items 160 and 161.

You said 160.

160, and then 161.

Were those approved for closing resolution?

Okay.

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you.

Mr.

Corley back on page 12.

Okay.

Um, Mr.

President also had um line items 172, 173.

Let's see.

Okay, that's council member.

Yeah, we cleared those two up.

That number okay, okay, okay.

Back on track.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um, we're at line 168.

Police increase the budget by a million dollars.

That's one time to create a new DPW truck traffic enforcement unit, pilot program, and council districts four six and seven.

Councilmember Santiago Mero.

Member Santiago Romero.

Motion to approve.

It's a motion to approve uh the one million dollars one time for line item one sixty-eight, colleagues.

Any objections?

Mr.

President.

With discussion, Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um, I think with this, uh I would say I think we're comfortable with doing a pilot in district six, but I don't know that we were prepared to do a pilot over multiple districts to start.

Um I think a million dollars is probably more than is needed for at least district six.

Um as part of a pilot is is quite robust for a pilot and probably more than we would be prepared to set up right out of that.

Before we do the floor, I want to give the floor back to member Santiago Romero, and then we'll go to you, Member Vince.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Through you to Mr.

Johnson, how much would it be just for district six again?

Is it the 750 that we mentioned?

I think realistically for district six, I'm sorry, apologies.

Through the chair um to Councilmember Santiago Romero.

Um I think for District Six, I think half a million is probably more what would actually be required.

Um to be safe, I would say maybe 550.

Um, and that would ensure that we cover the equipment as well as the personnel.

Um then we would determine kind of what the scale would, you know.

I think after we see how that looks, I think we would look at the other high need districts and we would take them in order of their traffic volume and their their need um and determine what each one looks like for their deployment.

Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

That was my question.

Understanding this is a priority for others.

I'm sure they have questions as well.

Thank you.

All right.

Um member Benson.

All right, thank you.

I'm good with supporting that.

Just want to make sure that we do place closing resolution language uh there indicating that this is a pilot program and we're looking to move citywide as other areas of the city have chance challenges as well with the heavy truck traffic.

Discussion.

Thank you.

With further discussion, Member Johnson, followed by Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and I will agree with what Member Benton just stated.

I also want to ensure that as we roll out the pilot, that we are looking at the funding because my understanding is it will fund itself.

Umce I I'm supportive because I know we added a truck traffic study for district four.

Um I'll just say now, but for another item um in conversation with Director Ron Brundich, he did indicate that the department has the resources to be able to deploy um to do truck truck traffic studies for any other district.

I think we just need to include it in the closing resolution, but noting that next year, once the pilot is done in district six and we've had truck truck traffic studies around particular facilities within our respective districts, that we will look to have enforcement in those areas so that it just helps to continue to make sure that the truck drivers are driving within the um the route that has been determined for any particular facility.

So thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I will echo with Member Johnson.

Member Benson said as well.

I I also had the question because um one of the reasons why I joined on this for the one million because it was multiple districts.

It was it was my understanding when we had a presentation on this that there was a conversation that maybe this would be able, especially if it's a pilot that it would be able to be absorbed into DPD already with vacancies.

Um so I wasn't and I know I wasn't here for um police, but just wanted to get clarification on that.

Mr.

Johnson?

Uh yes, uh uh to to the chair and to the council.

Um uh yes, uh the there currently we can absorb this in police in 27.

So um my intent is to work with um Councilmember Santiago Romero and her office on the language that would go into the schedule B and into the the final um resolution for the budget, so that we frame it as we're not really adding money to police, it's not like a net ad, it's really a use of existing resources.

Um, and so how we frame that in the schedule B is a little unique because normally in Schedule B we're showing a debit of some resource and a credit to another resource.

This time we're showing something slightly different.

So I'm gonna work with Councilmember Santiago Romero's office on that language and Mr.

Quarley and his team determine okay, how do we kind of frame that um uh in the next few days really um so that we have it ready for next week.

Thank you through the chair.

Thank you.

Uh, member Santiago Romero, uh, before we go to you, Member Santiago Romero for motions, um, member pro Tim Young.

Yeah, I just wanted to say, uh, shouldn't it also include signage regarding where trucks can and cannot go in an area?

God knows I've been confused a couple times going to places I'm not supposed to be going ahead and turn around things that nature.

Um through the chair um to Pro Tem Young.

Uh yes, uh signage is something that DPW and the sign shop already do.

Okay, so if there is an area where we do know that hey, there's a sign missing or there should have been a sign here, that's something that Director Brundage and his team they can deploy and put out.

We don't need additional resources for it.

The sign shop is prepared to do that.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

Member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um motion to approve 550 uh thousand for a pilot program for district six.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion to amend the one million dollar ask in line item 168 to 550,000.

Are there any objections?

And this is again one time.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Mr.

President.

Member Santiago Romero.

Thank you.

Motion to also add this to closing resolution.

I will work with my colleagues to ensure that we show that vision for the rest of the city.

I do feel very sad that we can't do this for everyone because I deeply understand the issues with trucks in our neighborhoods.

Um but looking forward to getting this done, making sure that we build it out for the rest of the city.

Thank you.

All right, colleagues.

There's a motion for language for line item closing resolution language, excuse me, for line item 168.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Mr.

President, um member Santiago Romero.

I'm actually ready as well to go through my closing resolutions.

I don't have that many left.

Okay.

Um so through you, Mr.

President, looking to add 171.

This is the framework study for Boynton neighborhood to closing resolution.

Would also like 204.

This is with a number of my colleagues regarding restrooms.

Um as I mentioned, I think we need to do some research around this, uh, but would like to add this to closing resolution as well.

And then 215.

This is the state of Michigan to expediate the e-file system for the 36th district courts would like to add this to closing resolution as well.

And those are all my closing resolution items.

All right.

Colleagues, there is a motion to move the language for closing resolution uh for line items 171, 204, as well as 215.

Are there any objections?

Discussion with discussion, member Benson.

Just wanted to uh point information 1712 and 215.

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

Any objections, colleagues?

Seeing none, the action shall be taken.

To you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Uh yes, ma'am.

These are my items for now.

Something else might be pins, but absolutely.

Thank you.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, we'll go back to page 12.

Line 169.

That's the public lighting um department and slash public lighting authority.

Um conversation about alley lighting and solar lighting.

Council member McCampbell.

Member Campbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So this um would be closer resolution language to encourage the PLA to use solar lighting and alley lighting as well.

Um so motion to add to close the resolution.

There's a motion to add closing resolution language for line item 169, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh before we close out that item.

Oh, member McCampbell.

Oh, no, this is you can close this always as additional.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

And also just an additional one to move to uh to close the resolution.

Um line item 173.

Um encouraging DACC to have enforcement rouge part to around the abandonment of dogs.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion to move into closing resolution the language for line item 173.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All righty.

Back on page 12, line 170.

This is planning and development department, BDD.

Entire planning development department budget, President Tate.

Yeah, I don't recall putting that one the entire budget in there.

Uh yeah, I think it was just because they had didn't get a chance to uh we didn't get a chance to ask questions, they gave a presentation.

That's what it was.

Thank you for reminding me.

Colleagues, are there any motions?

I didn't have any.

I just wanted to make sure that we had an opportunity to do so.

If there are none, you want to remove it?

I I will if there's no issues.

If there's no question with discussion, Member Benson.

Motion to pin, and I I mean I didn't get a chance to go talk and see if there's anything.

I want to give a call to the uh director.

Okay.

And see if there's anything, and I'll have that ready to go by time for our next session today.

Okay.

Well, uh, Mr.

Corley, if we can pin line item 170 and put that in the name of Member Benson.

For the discussion.

Uh with discussion.

Member Benson.

And if any other colleagues, please give a call to them as well.

Maybe there will be other suggested ads, and so we can have that conversation at second session of the day.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you.

So uh we had line 172.

Department of Appeals and hearings provide resources for public education on most common blight tickets.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um this really does go back in line with our campaign to maintain our city.

Um I don't recall which items those were.

Um we are investing more money in political education on anti-littering.

I guess this isn't the same because this is really around that um common blight tickets that residents uh receive.

Yeah.

I would like to pin this, Mr.

President.

Let me do some research around what those are and what can be possible, and then we can come back to 172.

All right, colleagues, there's a request for pin on line item 172.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, we're now on page 13.

And we had line 174.

Um services department, GSD, Office of Sustainability, entire Office of Sustainability Budget.

Um Santiago Romero.

Member Santiago Romero.

Oops.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I also uh would like to bring this back through to Member Benson.

Have you spoken to the Office of Sustainability yet?

Do you know if they have any needs?

If not, that's something that I can do.

Member Benson.

Um number are we on?

174.

No, I thought that was when we just pinned.

Let's see now I'm getting no, not that one.

Let me take a look.

It's the Office of Sustainability budget.

The entire budget was placed into executive session.

Oh, I so okay.

Then I was confused earlier.

I thought the conversation was to pin this one and then have the conversations with them.

Through the chair.

Member of Santiago Romero.

Member Benson, you were talking about the planning departments.

Um, because that one we also weren't able to ask questions of them.

They sped through their presentation.

We moved their whole budget so that if we had any questions to ask, um, but this you and I both moved the Office of Sustainability for similar, you know.

Um my suggestion would be to pin this one.

Okay.

All right.

There's a request for a pin for line item 174, colleagues.

Um Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

We're at line 176, GSD.

Discussion about mosquito abatement program around Rouge Park.

Um, President Tate.

Thank you, sir.

Uh we do have closing resolution language we're offering up, but want to discuss uh what those dollar amount what the dollar amount would look like because it does span a number of neighborhoods um within district one in particular that I'm familiar with that have um they're besieged by mosquitoes during the summertime because of the um poor movement of the Rouge River Creek uh behind their homes.

Uh so there will be a dollar amount.

We're having conversations with the uh departments as we speak.

So at this moment, colleagues, if I can please get a motion for a closing resolution language for line item 176.

Motion.

There's a motion.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Discussion.

Uh, with further discussion, uh, I will also say that I will be moving some uh potential funding to this uh item as well, but still as I mentioned, having discussion with the uh appropriate departments.

Member Benson.

So I just wanted to verify so it sounds like this will this has been approved for closing resolution, but it's pinned uh for further dollar amounts to be attached.

Correct.

So thank you.

And I would request a pin for that dollar amount.

Thank you, Member Benson.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

Umtiago Romero.

I would like to pin this and come back.

Uh, want to check in with uh parks first.

All right, there's a request for a pin for 177.

Okay.

178 GSD.

Increase the budget by 50,000 for blight patrol roll out.

Hold a conversation about the rollout.

Councilmember Callaway.

Mm-hmm.

Callaway.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Through yourself, Mr.

Chair to Mr.

Corley.

That will remain there, but I'm thinking it probably needs to go to DPD.

But certainly in the closing resolution and executive session, that $50,000 is simply a rollover from last year because we approved $50,000 to even start the pilot.

It was never used.

We are still signing up volunteers.

So the $50,000 is already there.

It's not new.

And it's just a simple request for a rollover through your and I don't know through the chair to Mr.

Johnson if that is possible.

All right.

Mr.

Johnson.

I'm sorry, first there's a motion.

Yep, to roll it over.

All right.

There's a motion to roll over the five $50,000 that was previously allocated for this particular item.

Mr.

Johnson.

Through the chair to Councilmember Callaway, um, yes, that should be that should be doable.

Um technically it won't be a rollover because it's general fund.

Technically, I will be adding new money to the budget, but it would be of the equivalent amount.

So same same difference, basically.

Yeah, it would be there.

Okay.

And for clarification, that's one time.

It's probably gonna I'm gonna have to say recurring because we are through your to uh Mr.

Chair, we are um reimbursing people for mileage.

And it's the same thing we do with the Citizens Radio Patrol.

We've been doing that for a few decades now, and I don't know if that comes through the DPD budget or not, but we do reimburse people who are patrolling their areas looking for being the eyes and the ears for crime in their community.

So I do think that they receive reimbursement, so this is going to have to be recurring.

There's a request for a $50,000 reoccurring for line item 178, colleagues.

Any objections?

Discussion with further discussion, Member Benson.

Will that be identified in the C C B radio patrol budget?

Mr.

Johnson?

Through the chair to um uh councilmember Benson.

I think at this stage, my intention is going to be to set up a cost center specific to blight patrol.

Okay, so that it's separate from the crime um you know patrol so that we can kind of see both separately discussion?

With further discussion, member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, through yourself to Mr.

Johnson.

Where would this be housed?

Would it be GSD?

Will it be DP DED?

Where would this $50,000 be located in the budget?

Through the chair to Councilmember Callaway.

I am not a hundred percent sure.

Um I will need to go back and have a conversation with both GSD and DPD and find out which one is really going to have the oversight of it.

Um I I I will have to get back to you on that one.

Okay.

Um further discussion.

Member Callaway, floor is yours.

Thank you.

Okay, so GSD has not been a part of our discussions.

It's really to Mr.

Johnson has been with DPD.

DPD does manage the the reimbursement for um the citizens radio patrol.

So I would imagine since they've been at the table with law and GSD has not been a part of those conversations that I do believe DPD would manage that fifty thousand dollars.

But I through the chair, I'll let you handle that.

Yeah.

Okay, thank you, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

And that is important for the closing resolution so that the uh you would know exactly which department to um focus on in this item.

So first of all, let's deal with the closing resolution.

Colleagues, is it uh with further discussion, member uh Johnson?

Thank you.

Through you, Mr.

Chair, to Member Callaway.

Can you share a little bit more about Blight Patrol and what they'll do?

Yeah, okay.

Um member Callaway through through through yourself, um Mr.

Chair to um Councilmember Letitian Letitia Johnson.

Excellent question.

It is designed to it it's modeled after the Citizens Radio Patrol.

Um in Green Acres, where I live, we've had our citizens radio patrol for 37 years, and we've seen a reduction every year in crimes across the board in Green Acres, simply because and member waters was just there for our 77 37th anniversary celebration.

Um so it's modeled after that.

All we're asking our residents to do, and they've been signing up across the city, not just in district two, because this is a citywide initiative.

They're simply signing up, and they are the ears and the eyes for blight.

They simply report it to into a database, and then it's turned over to the NPO or GSD or DPW, depending on the case, depending on the dumping, depending on what they see, and they're uploading pictures.

It's kind of like improved Detroit, but it's escalated, and they're getting mileage.

Yep, they're just gonna simply get mileage.

I think it's 77 cents on the mile.

Okay, excellent.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

You're welcome.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for uh closing resolution language for line item 178.

Are there any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Colleagues, there's also a request for uh reoccurring $50,000 for line item 178.

Are there any discussion?

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

Line 179.

GSD.

We establish the full restoration program to city recreation centers.

Pro Tim Young.

Oh, Tim Young.

Thank you, uh Mr.

President.

Uh I just wanted to say this program is gonna cost about one to three million.

It's gonna cost about one million dollars.

Uh it's gonna it's gonna serve two to four recreation centers.

It's a pilot, uh, is limited but operational.

35 to 45 percent is gonna be salaries and we'll and uh wages that's about 350 to 1.5 mil in the range.

Well, this is gonna be a one million dollar program overall.

It's about $350,000 for your salary, $120 for overhead administration, $150 for food and procurement, $80,000 for facilities and equipment, $50 for legit distribution, $40 for program education, $40 for maintenance and utilities, $20 for compliance, legal insurance, $20 for technology data systems, 10 for outreach and community engagement, five for cybersecurity data protection, five for waste management, and then 10 for site security.

So I am asking to put one million now, Mr.

Johnson, because I know where this is going.

So this is gonna cost a million dollars.

We don't have that.

Is this a priority?

And if not, should I just put this in closing resolution?

Mr.

Johnson.

Uh through through the chair to um Pro Tim Young.

Um, I would say, you know, anything that increases food security is of course a priority of the administration.

Right.

Um, however, I think um we would need to know a lot more about what this program would look like, how it would be set up.

Um I can't guarantee that if we put money in the budget right now, it would all get deployed in 27.

I think we'd there's just a bigger conversation.

This is one of those things where it it sounds like a really fantastic idea.

I think we would just need to first figure out what the game plan is before we put money to it.

Um because this is something that already exists currently, so it's not like you're reinventing the wheel, like most programs are talking about here.

Something already currently existed.

There's something that we were doing over at uh Butzel Family Center where we were feeding children and senior citizens.

It's a very popular program.

I just want to expand it to two, um, maybe two, maybe five uh recreational centers across the city train.

I can send you the documents of what I have and what this plan is.

But before I do that, I just want to know am I sending this to you because this is something that's gonna be approved, or am I sending this to you for something that's gonna be for close or resolution?

I I I just don't want to show you all my wares, and then it's like I'm not interested.

You understand what I'm saying, Taya?

Mr.

President, uh through through the president, yes, uh I do understand what you're saying.

Um, so I think uh you are you referring to the program that we get the state grant for every year for for families and then also for seniors?

Yes.

Um so you would be essentially wanting to supplement the state grant with our own with additional funding.

Yes, understood.

Okay, that I understand I'm clear on that.

If you could send me the information, if we could put a pen in this one for now, send me the information so that I can go back and have a conversation with my my uh team.

Excellent.

So I'll make a motion to put a pin and uh line on 179.

Colleagues, there's a request for a pen for line item 179.

Mr.

Corley.

All right, 180 GSD still discussion on the Fort Wayne Historical Society.

Pro Tim Young.

Pro Tim Young.

Yeah, I don't remember what this is about.

Uh I I think this is about like if they were partnering up with the Detroit Historical Society, but it's like I just don't care at this point.

So uh let's just make a motion to remove line on 180.

There's a motion to remove line item 180, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

All right, line 181, still GSD.

Increase the budget by 40,000.

One time for historic Fort Wayne feasibility study.

Um Councilmember Callaway?

Member Calloway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

100,000 was approved last year.

They need an additional 40,000, and the study will be done.

It will tell the city, the administration, exactly what steps needs to need to be taken to um get that fort historic Fort Wayne up and running, restored, so folks who are coming into our city from whatever the ambassador bridge or the new Gordy Howard Bridge will have a place to um to visit as a historic, I'm sorry, as a tourist destination.

So I'm asking for um 40,000 to be added to what was already added last year to complete that study.

So executive session, my motion is to add the 40,000 dollars.

One time, Mr.

One time, one time.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for 40,000 dollars one time for uh line item one eighty-one.

Yep.

Are there any objections?

Mr.

President.

Uh Mr.

Johnson.

Um through the chair to Councilmember Callaway, I I can I think I can commit that we we can cover this.

So we put eight million dollars in capital toward parks and and and and parks work in fiscal twenty-seven.

Forty thousand dollars should be more than feasible to to allocate from the capital, and I'm more than willing to put language in in in our closing resolution that binds us to say I'm gonna allocate 40 grand of the existing capital allocation to make sure this study gets completed on time.

Thank you.

For yourself, um, the chair to you, Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you very much.

Of course.

All right.

Uh is there a motion further motion?

So there's is there a motion to remove line item 181 or place into closing resolution?

Um Mr.

Chair to Mr.

Johnson should I should I be removing this and you're going to closing resolution?

So to you, leave it in the closing resolution.

And you're gonna help provide language through the chair.

Yeah, okay.

Yes, closing resolution.

That's my motion.

Discussion.

There's a motion to place line item 181 into closing resolution with discussion.

Member Santiago Romero.

Um if since my only concern is I want to make sure that the priorities and other studies that residents are asking for in district six are also possible.

And if this is going to be a priority, as I mentioned last time, not one single district six resident is asking us about the buildings at Fort Wayne.

They're asking us about the lands that they play on.

So I just want to make sure that we are prioritizing what residents are asking for now.

And want to make sure that we are not going to shift money around where we're not actually doing that.

Um so if we can pin this through you, Mr.

President, to to member Callaway, I would like to just talk with Director Perkins to make sure that we are going to cover what residents have been asking me for.

Um, and again, completely support Fort Wayne.

My first year did the same tour that I that you went to are on, I'm sure.

Um, but as I told them, we will and we've been we submit letters of support for grants because really what they need is a lot of money.

They need money, and that's what the study is going to tell us that they need money.

Um so just want to flag that.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

So no, what was on the floor was the uh resolution, not actual dollar amount.

That's going to be the commitment from the administration.

Um, but uh member Callaway, because there's no dollar amount uh allotted to it, uh there is a request.

Um would you like to move on this particular Mr.

Chair?

Um and um to Mr.

Corley and to Mr.

Johnson, 100,000 was approved last year.

I think it was my request last year.

We're asking for an additional 40,000, Mr.

Chair, to Mr.

Johnson to complete the study.

Um, and the citizens across the city in every district has a desire to have that forth Fort Wayne up and running and in better condition.

So the 140,000 dollars um um has the 100 has already been approved through yourself, Mr.

Chair, to Mr.

Johnson, and Mr.

Johnson just sat here and said that he would be able to find the 40,000 dollars to complete the study.

So that is that remains my motion for the closing resolution language.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Okay.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for cloth language for closing resolution, line item eight one eighty-one.

Are there any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Discussion, Mr.

Chair.

With further discussion, member Callaway.

Thank you so much.

And last year, I was joined by council member at large waters for the record.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Line item 182.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, GSD.

Increase the budget by four million dollars recurring to the forestry department to maintain a moderate.

Um I do apologize.

I don't think we dealt with the dollar amount though that was in line item 181 because there do we keep this dollar amount in there, noting that it is coming from the potentially from a pot that currently exists and not any additional funding.

So, Ms.

President, um I suggest this dollar amount comes out since um Mr.

Johnson is um agreeing to put it into the administration's closing resolution to find the money.

Wait, he's saying they probably should have the money out of the eight million dollars that's before you for parks development.

That's why I wanted to deal with the dollar amount because we're not talking dollars now, we're just talking about closing resolution.

So uh member Calloway, is there a motion to remove the dollar amount for line item 181 uh with discussion?

Yeah.

So before I remove it, I need a commitment through yourself to amendment Johnson that that 40 member called it, Mr.

Mike on.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um further discussion.

So the 40,000 dollars will be committed by the administration.

Is that what I'm understanding?

You're saying, Mr.

Johnson?

Yes, ma'am.

And you will be able to identify that 40,000 that will go with the 100,000 dollars that has already been approved so that can so the study can be conducted.

That's what we're hearing before I remove it.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, so um motion to remove the 40,000 dollars and keep it in closing resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to remove the 40,000 uh one-time allocation to line item 181.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, line um 182 GSD, increase the budget by four million dollars, recurring to the forestry department to maintain a moderate level of support for forestry.

Um we have it as a one-time and under recurring, but we got it in the common where it's colored uh tan, that tannish color, which means that we're suggesting that this cost come out of the um street fund.

I want to I want to um look at uh um Ms.

Uh Shore, just to make sure I'm saying this right.

So do you agree with that?

Okay, Mr.

Corley, I you said one time, but this is recurring.

So recurring, but we're saying that instead of it coming out of the general fund, it's in that tanage column because we're saying it would come out of the street fund.

Uh council member Benson.

So it is again you you said one time, but now you it is in fact reoccurring, correct?

Mr.

Corley.

Yeah, that's that's that's what we understood.

Okay.

Um that's what I thought.

I just know what I heard.

Um, just wanted to verify.

Uh member Benson discussion with discussion.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

And Mr.

Quarter, you're right.

This uh is a properly identified as a funding source, which is where forestry for GSD's public property.

And I want to make sure we're clear this is separate from the president's advocacy around pri trees on private property.

And so this was also part of the discussion that was held in neighborhoods around the forestry department.

This was a very large conversation in the third district this past summer.

I want to make sure that my college that my um my bosses are heard on this.

So the advocacy from the director was that to get to a moderate level of management of trees citywide within our city-owned portfolio, it would need to be about four million dollars.

That still wouldn't get us there, but we need to see a significant change, and it does, and that support does come out of the street fund.

Um that would my advocacy would be able to add 24 full-time employees plus the uh additional equipment to that department, which would end advocate for a living wage, which is what we're doing now, because we're not competitive when it comes to forestry foresters or tree artisans within GSD.

And so that would be my suggestion, and that would allow the city to really start to manage and maintain its tree portfolio within the right-of-way, which does affect thousands, tens of thousands of homes, um, our parks, rec centers, the trees that we own and are responsible for that do not get the make the basic maintenance that they need, which is why during storms we see tree limbs fall, we see them fall in people's cars because they're not properly maintained.

We just don't have the uh the resources going, and so this is my attempt to start the conversation and start to incrementally get to a point of a four feet apartment that is completely self-contained within the city of Detroit, which is about I want to say I think it was 27 million dollars was the total cost, but just it would be a start.

Colleagues, there's a motion for four million dollars reoccurring um for line item one eighty-two.

Are there any objections with discussion, Mr.

Johnson?

Uh Mr.

President, um uh this is a very large allocation of the street fund.

Um, and this would undoubtedly have an impact on our street program.

Um we would have to pull money away from our street program uh to do this.

We were able to avoid doing that with the D DOC contribution because we were we got the extra funding coming in from the state on in the road funds.

This would begin to cut into the actual baseline road funding for the year.

Um it's a big ask, it's a big operational undertaking.

Um I am I'm not in a position to agree with this particular item at this time.

Um I think this is something we would have to have a conversation about an even slower and more gradual build-up on this kind of operation.

Um I'm opening that conversation.

Motion to pin.

We can have a conversation today about that, and I'll come back with something.

Thank you.

There is a request to pin line item 182, colleagues.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, and um line 183.

I think it's related.

This talks about the 24 FTEs.

Consumer Benson.

I think it's related to 18 um two, right?

Yeah, it looks connected.

Motion to pin.

All right, there's a motion to there's a request to pin line item 183, colleagues.

Line item 184.

Okay, still GSD.

Increase the budget by a million dollars recurring for additional GSD security at recreational centers and parks.

Um one million recurring council member Benson.

Member Benson.

Discussion with discussion.

Um currently in conversations with GSD.

They are in conversations with the police department.

I should have a number by later this afternoon on this line item.

And there may not be a number, if there is most likely much smaller than one million.

I believe the issue is more along the lines of coordination now versus the actual dollar amount, but it may be a small one.

Motion to uh pin.

As a request to pin line item 184, colleagues.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, we can run down uh go down to line 186, GSD.

For any park improvements outside of the recreation centers, we want to make sure there's dollars available for renovation of current rec centers.

Councilmember McCamble, member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So line item 186 and 187 are related to the building of the uh recreation center at Brennan and also the renovation of the current building.

Um I have a request for pin 186 and 187 because we're in conversations with the administration around us.

All right, colleagues, there's a request for a pin on 186 and line item 187.

That takes us to line item 191, Mr.

Corley.

Yes, on page 14.

Uh GSD steel increase budget by a million dollars for recreation.

Councilmember Callaway.

Member Callaway.

Yeah, thank you so much.

Um, Mr.

Chair, Mr.

Corley, that can be removed.

Colleagues, there's a motion to remove line item 191 from the spreadsheet.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

President, could council um make a motion to remove the dollar amount for line item?

Yes, sir.

We're just removing the whole item.

Okay.

Yes, sir.

Great.

Okay.

Um line 193, GSD still provide capital funding to reactivate the Connor Creek Trail.

Councilmember Johnson.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to add this to the closing resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to add uh language for closing resolution for line item 193.

Are there any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Okay.

Line 194, GSD.

Transition recreational centers into resilience hubs as continuous progress and improvements are made to the recreational centers.

Councilmember Johnson.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to add this to the closing resolution.

There's a motion to add closing resolution language for line item 194.

Um colleagues, any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh, with further discussion, Member Johnson.

I'd just like to add the other two items that I have here uh for closing resolution.

Line item 197, which is um essentially requesting that the general services department continue conversations with DPSED around the community use of schools motion to add to the closing resolution.

We want to just do them all together.

As well as line item 206, which is for the Detroit Water and Sewage Department to install a loop system as opposed to replacing the stop box.

Right.

Colleagues, there's a motion to add language to closing resolution for line items 197 as well as 206.

Are there any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Okay.

Mr.

Corner.

Still on page one um 14.

And we had line 195.

GSD provide financial and other support to black clubs.

Consider Member Waters.

Oh, um, motion to move the closing resolution.

There's a motion to move line item 195 to closing resolution.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Okay, we have line 196.

Increase the budget by a million dollars for dead, dangerous, and diseased tree program.

Council President Tate.

Thank you so much.

Uh but still like to have this item.

So one million in that particular item.

I know that the department has indicated that they may be able to satisfy uh the need based upon uh the dollar amount that's already been placed in it, but I do have questions about that still.

I have major questions about the uh items that's the a request that still remain, especially seeing that we're about to open it back up again and to ensure that we are able to accomplish what we're looking to do.

So uh colleagues, um if I can get a motion uh to approve line item 196, please.

There's a motion to approve line item 196.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Uh with uh discussion LPD, you go through all of them.

All right, I have a clarifying question about the item.

Are these um trees that are on public land or on private?

These are private, the dangerous dead and disease tree program.

Those are the private trees.

Yes, ma'am.

Ms.

President, this is one time, yes, sir.

One time.

Okay.

Um line 198, TSD still increase the budget by 500,000 for a placeholder for a water feature at Kimani Park.

Um Councilmember Santa Romero.

Member Santiago Romero.

One time.

Yep.

Line item 198.

Thank you, Mr.

Presidents.

Do you two Mr.

Johnson?

Or I can just wait and ask GSD.

Let me ask GSD, because I know that they have some funding.

Um, so I will connect with them during this break.

So I would like to pin this.

Colleagues, a request for a pen for line item 198.

Mr.

Corney.

Okay, 199 GSD.

Increase the budget by 500,000 for the Detroit Animal Care Control.

Councilmember Satan Romero.

Santiago Romero.

Would also like to pin this.

There's a request for a pin for line item 199.

Line item 200, Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

GSD still costs to provide weekly senior smoothies.

Councilmember um waters.

Oh, thank you.

Smoothie too.

I like strawberry um smoothies.

I have a little fun.

Just a little bit.

Oh I did get some numbers um from GSD on that.

And um it would be about 75k.

Ms.

President, that's one time.

Yeah.

We'll pilot that.

We'll see.

So there's a request for 75,000 one time.

Discussion.

For line item 200, colleagues with discussion member Benson.

And just the thought, where would the smoothies be made available to the seniors?

Well, first of all, at the centers, starting at Northwest Activity Center.

Okay.

Because I had a smoothie bar built there.

Okay.

Just so you know.

So that would be the only location where seniors could get smoothies.

Well, once they finish with the center down on um Lafayette and Lafayette and Mount Elliott area, there's a senior center that's that's gonna be going up there.

Once that center is complete, they'll be receiving them there.

There are other senior centers throughout the city as well.

Well, well, okay, it maybe that's true.

But I may I I did have I started out with two two places.

One was Northwest Activity Center, because I had a smoothie bar built there along with some renovations.

Renovations to the sauna and the steam room.

This is all about senior wellness.

So I asked them to and the smoothie bar, you have to get over there sometime to take a look at it.

So further discussion.

I just I I support smoothies for seniors.

I'm just hoping there will be an equitable distribution of smoothies for seniors throughout the entire city of Detroit, being that we do have a senior center rec center at Farwell.

I just I'm not gonna get in the way of it, but I'm just hoping that there will be an equitable distribution because seniors will like to see it throughout the city.

Just hoping that we'll be some thought given to that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

With further discussion, um member member uh waters the the rec center that you mentioned that's uh under construction right now.

Um it's not a rec center, it's a senior center.

The senior center, excuse me.

So they will also have a smoothie bar?

Uh yes, that was that was in the plan.

Okay.

That that was in the plan.

I I hope they follow the plan, but we shall see.

But it is for seniors only right down at Lafayette in Mount Elliott.

Can we can we find out first if that's actually in the plan for the new one just to ensure?

Because if we're putting 75,000, um, just to uh trying to understand better about the 75,000, uh how we came to that number for those two uh locations based upon again the frequency of the capacity, um I think 75,000 when you look at the overall budget is not a huge amount of money, but just want to make sure, as we always say it's the juice worth the squeeze literally in this in this situation is the juice worth the squeeze in this situation.

So are we talking about daily, we're talking about weekly, are we talking about one car?

I'm talking about we looked at the numbers of how many would actually be and it's gonna be based, for example, I use Northwest Activity Center as as as an example.

Yes, ma'am.

Um weekly, and we'll leave leave that to the vendor to decide who's had their one for the week.

But how many per week does this allocate for?

That's that's what I'm saying.

When we start looking at the numbers one per week based on the membership, there are a lot of seniors that are members over at the Northwest.

A lot is not a number I can put into the bus.

For me, just trying to identify the 75 again.

This is not in the grand scale of things, but that's what I'm right I see.

You want me to work some numbers up and I'll do that.

Yes, ma'am, we're a budget.

I'll do that because I got one flat number from them.

I'll go back and do those calculations that you all are looking for.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, so may I put a pen in it?

Discussion?

Yes, ma'am.

Um with further discussion, I saw some hands down here first is coming your way, Member Callaway, Member Johnson, followed by Member McCampbell, followed by Member Callaway.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Followed by Member Callaway.

Member Johnson.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, through you to Member Waters, just very quickly, what's the age of the seniors?

The age?

Well, I mean, if they say they're senior, they're senior.

I mean ARP card carrying seniors.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the yes.

50.

I have my AARP card.

Well, you're not a senior.

I'm not I'm not claiming it.

That's how I'm asking.

I I I like I prefer the number 65 and over Franklin.

But that's what I'm gonna define it.

I'm so I mean I tell you, I I didn't think about all that you guys are gonna be asking.

So with that, Member Waters, so the senior center, you'd have to be a senior, presumably you have a card that allows you in.

Yes.

So a senior would not be able to bring a non-senior guest with them.

No, they should not.

Okay, because it then it gets to be a problem.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

All right.

Uh member McCampbell, followed by Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Through you to Member Waters.

I understand that these two locations have the smoothie bar, and I'm happy to do this research myself, but wondering if you um know, are there any other I know you said specifically senior centers, but are there any other rec centers with smoothie bars?

I could check.

I just wanted to see if you well, no, I I think this is a new thing.

Okay.

Um, I decided the seniors needed smoothies, healthy smoothies.

So it started at two places.

I'm not saying that I'm not willing to expand it.

So when they asked me about renovation to the Northwest Activity Center using monies to repair the steam room in the sauna, I says, okay, we'll take that part of the money that I put in the budget, but make sure that there's a smoothie bar at Northwest Activity Center.

And if you've been in there, you will see that there's a smoothie bar.

Um in addition to that, I had previously asked as the plan for the um Lafayette spot that it be built renovated for with the smoothie bar.

That was the original plan for that senior center that's yet to open.

That's kind of how it started.

I'd like to see something like that around the city, but I can only go by what's been put in place thus far.

Good chair.

Member McCampbell.

Uh thank you.

Do you um Mr.

Chair to member waters?

Thank you so much.

And that's what I was getting.

I think because it's a great idea, and this is a great program.

But I think also as we're thinking about um maybe we need to add infrastructure across all the rec centers for smoothie bars.

But thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

With further discussion, uh, Member Callaway.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

And um yourself to Member Waters.

Thank you for the smoothie bar.

I'm getting a lot of inquiries about it because it's just sitting there unused.

So that center, everybody knows is like probably the most popular um senior spot in the city.

It's utilized by not only folks who live on the west side, but folks who live on the east side too, if they have transportation.

Um they have all kind of senior activities all week long.

Um there's even swimming there for our seniors and and and and dance classes.

It's just it's amazing.

So when I walk past the space, I'm like, what is this?

And so it's beautiful, but we do need it to um to be operational and functioning because it's just sitting there, underutilized, nothing's happening, and the seniors want to know where are the smoothie smoothies.

So I hope that we could get it going because this the space has been um been built out.

The only thing is missing is the ingredients and the and the contractor, but I appreciate it.

I think I'm speaking on all on behalf of all the seniors being a senior myself.

I can't wait to enjoy um the smoothies, but something needs to happen with that space because we took up a whole area to accommodate that.

Um and it used to be a meeting space for other groups, but now it's not a meeting space for other groups because it's a smoothie bar.

And it it is it's amazing.

It's gonna be like a little cafe.

So I'm hoping that we will go ahead and let make maybe make this the pilot.

I'm not sure, but I appreciate all that you've done to make it happen.

The seniors are really, really um uh excited about it coming.

Thank you, Mr.

Um Chair.

With with further discussion, but I I thought you said you wanted to pin this item, correct, Member Waters to allow for additional information.

Right, right.

Yeah, I was gonna get the numbers worked up for you.

Okay for for everybody.

That way we can kind of reduce the additional commentary on it to allow you to get a bit of a couple of things.

I know, but if I could just say one more thing, absolutely uh based on what member Callaway has said, yes.

Uh I was told by GSD that there will be a ribbon cutting soon.

Uh they've put out a uh a bid to a vendor to do exactly what you're asking.

So the bids are not back in yet as soon as they're in, uh they can move on it.

Thank you.

Member Waters, are you further looking?

You're looking to pin this item.

Well, yeah, yes, yeah, motion pendant.

It's a request to pin line item 200, colleagues.

Um we suspended discussion.

No, if we can.

I'll score discussion because it's been pinned.

Thank you so much.

All right, Mr.

Corley, I believe we're at uh 202.

Yes.

Um GSD still increase the budget by 50,000 for the repair of a gazebo roof at Hyde Park.

That's one time.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Uh Mr.

Corley.

Uh, if we can reduce the amount to 7500, we've gone over to the Cazebo, and there's just some missing um shingles, it does not to be, it does not have to be replaced for the 50,000, just needs to be repaired.

And so um make a motion to remove the $50,000 and add the sum of $7500 to get the gazebo roof repaired.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Uh colleagues, there's a request to amend uh the amount of five, excuse me, of fifty thousand dollars to seventy-five hundred dollars for line item two oh two.

Are there any objections?

Mr.

President.

First, we'll just do that, then we're going to do the motion for the no, I guess we can do that now.

There's a motion on the floor with discussion.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

For you to Councilmember Callaway.

Would this be something we would treat um similarly to the 40,000 item at um the Fort Wayne study where I would I can commit?

I mean, 7500, I don't really need to change the budget for that.

I'm I I'm very confident I can find that.

I was gonna say the gazeba remote.

I'm positive we don't need to amend the proposed budget to to fix the gazeba roof.

I can absolutely commit that we will do that.

I mean we will absolutely do that.

Yeah.

So thank you, Mr.

Johnson.

Through um your Mr.

Chair, so we can place that in closing resolution and remove the $50,000.

That's my motion.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a request to remove the $50,000 from uh request from well, actually, no, the motion was for $7500.

Uh is there a motion to uh remove the funding uh period for line item 202.

Motion seeing no objections that action shall be taken.

Colleagues, is there a motion to add this item that is line item 202, the language to uh closing resolution?

Motion sir.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

And Mr.

President, uh Mr.

Johnson, we're ensure that the administration's closing resolution will have the 7500.

Uh yes, that is correct.

Thank you, sir.

Okay.

Um, we had line 203, GSD still.

Create pocket parks on empty land space in the city of Detroit.

Pro Tim Young.

Oh, Tim Young.

Thank you.

Uh motion to move this to uh close the resolution.

There's a motion to move line item 203 to closing resolution, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

Mr.

President.

With further discussion, pro Tim Young.

Yeah, there was also um two other motions that I have made that I don't see included in this.

Uh, one was involving the um guaranteed income, and the other one's involving baby bonds.

And I don't see that in this proposal.

And so I was wondering, can I make those motions now, or should we wait till we go through this project project and then make those motions?

They don't reflect right now on the agenda.

Let's go ahead and make the motion so that when the new um the new uh uh spreadsheet comes out, it'll have it on there.

And if I can make one more closing resolution, can I do that?

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

Okay, so I want that's not on here as well.

So I want to make um a motion one to be able to add guaranteed income to close the resolution.

Colleagues, there's a motion to add uh guaranteed income into the closing resolution.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken with uh language uh coming.

Yes.

And um member Wars want to join on that.

All right, Mr.

Quarley, if you can know, pro tem.

Yes, I like to make a motion to um put baby bonds into closing resolution.

There's a motion to place baby bonds into closing resolution, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Pro Tim.

And then I'd like to make to put in the closing resolution.

Um a virtual power plant.

There's a motion to place a virtual power plant into closing resolution uh with discussion.

Pro Tim Young, can you explain what that is?

Sure.

Give me just a second.

It's not on the agenda.

These are no, it's not the agenda.

No, this one isn't.

The other two were supposed to be, but they missed it.

But this one is not.

This one, this one is something that I wanted to do, but I forgot.

So a virtual but this is also a response to the uh uh the um data centers.

So a virtual power plant is a system that connects many small distributed energy resources and manages them as if they were a single power plant.

So a VPP typically combines solar panels, wind turbines, battery storage systems, electric vehicles, and flexible loads like smart appliances or industrial demand.

So this is how it works.

Instead of gerolizing power in one big centralized plant, a VPP aggregates many small energy sources across different locations, uses software and smart controls to coordinate them.

Usually that's gonna be artificial intelligence and it's gonna be uh the internet of things, and then sends power to the grid or reduces demand when needed.

So the grid operator, it behaves like one large controllable power plant, but it's many different smaller sources.

So grid stability, this is why this matters.

Grid stability helps balance supply and demand in real time.

Grid stability helps balance supply and demand in real time, renewable integration makes it easier to use intermittent sources like solar and wind, cost savings avoids building expits and new power plants and resilience.

Distributed systems are less vulnerable to outtages.

So think of a VPP like a team of small players acting as a strong as one strong unit.

Each device is small on its own, but together they can deliver significant power.

There's real world examples in Australia and other such places, and we can also explain how they make money.

You can also sell um energy into the miceo market.

That's a longer conversation for a longer day.

But I just wanted to say for right now, this is just about being able to encourage the use of uh virtual power plants.

Okay.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you, Proto.

Thank you.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

We're now on page 15.

And we can go to line 205.

That's DWSD, Detroit Water Sewage Department.

Preventive measures for flooding to be discussed with uh Warren Sewage.

Councilmember Santa Romero.

Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Uh this I am comfortable removing, quite frankly, uh, as the chair of public health and safety, um, and as someone who cares deeply about our infrastructure um regarding climate change as we're impacted by climate change.

This will be something that I continue to work on.

Um do I'm just trying to do we need a super long closing resolution if I'm gonna do the work anyways.

Um so I feel comfortable removing this.

Okay, college has a motion to remove line item 205 from the spreadsheet.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

President, member uh Santiago Romero.

But I would like to add to closing resolution um for D dot uh a free fare pilot program for closing resolution, and this will be for everyone.

Okay.

There's a motion for closing resolution, uh D dot free fare pilot program.

Discussion uh with discussion.

Uh we'll start with member Benson, followed by Pro Tim.

Member Benson.

I would like to symbolically join you there.

Okay.

All right.

Um uh Pro Tim.

Um, do you have a place of where you're gonna be implementing this at?

Do you do you know is it gonna be based on uh the most need in terms of where people are, is it gonna be based on um income levels in terms of certain neighborhoods, or you're still trying to flesh that out?

Through you, Mr.

President, to our pro tem.

If you look at other cities like Denver, they have done a free pilot program over the summer to try to combat the amount of cars that are on the road to help decrease uh pollution.

So it's really that's my mind where this pilot can fits.

It would again encourage folks to get off their cars, get on the bus.

Um, and then the same way that we are doing a six-month pilot collecting data on our students.

I would hope that we collect data on on ridership, um, all those things, noting that we need to enhance our services.

Um, but I do believe that um this is the direction that we should be going.

Um, but it's it's it would be based on that.

Um, that's the concepts, and and other cities have done it in that way.

No, no, Ms.

President Mayor.

No, I that that's no, I no, I understand that that makes sense.

I I just want to know um what I'm I'm assuming that this would uh coincide with uh microtransit.

I'm assuming it'd probably be some sort of program, you know, for uh mobility wallets where people can be able to take advantage of this through um and uh transportation as a service so uh people can or mobility, excuse me, not trying to mobility as a service, so people can be able to address you know have multitude of options where this would be able to apply.

So if you necessarily don't get the bus, you might you know get um you know you might get um uh micro transit, you know, you might have autonomous vehicles, or I mean, even if you're talking about um translation network companies for Ubers and your Lyfts.

I'm assuming you get a car.

I know the city used to have like a night shift program that that was more of a discount, so I'm assuming they might be able to apply that as well too.

So just something to think about.

Sure.

I'm done.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you, Mr.

Santiago Romero.

Thank you.

Two tour pro time, I hear you.

Um, and as you're speaking, I think for me it's less on all the different modes of transportation.

Um is really about getting people to use the bus.

But I I do know that um, because I have participated in bike to work day.

Um, so you know, we the city has had done events to encourage people to walk, bike, take the bus.

So if you want to include something like that, I think that would be really lovely.

But yes, for conversations to be had.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley, thank you.

Okay, we're at line 207.

DWSD discussion on Southfield Yard pumps.

Present Tate.

Uh colleagues, can I get a motion to place this item to into closing resolution, please?

There's a motion to place line item 207 into closing resolution.

See no objections, then action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corden.

Okay, line 208, Auditor General.

Um OAG entire budget, proportional funding request.

Um recurring for Order General.

Um Mr.

President, Councilmember Benson asked that I uh go back and verify the request for Order General for Inspector General for Board of Ethics and I'm this person's office.

I I did that.

However, I would like uh if it's okay, Mr.

President, to bring this back in the afternoon, give me a chance to reach out to them and have a conversation, uh, and then we can go from there.

So if we can if we can pin uh if council agreed, pin uh line two oh eight.

And I know this is uh council member McCampbell in particular, but if we can pin it, that'd be great.

Uh member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and absolutely uh Mr.

Crowley.

I'm open to pending this.

One thing I do want to note because I know we when we had the hearings with the other um oversight agencies, we have put motion to put the close uh uh or into executive session, but I don't have that on my spreadsheet that line.

Yeah, Ms.

President, that would be on the on the on a new one.

Okay, yeah.

Just one didn't double check.

All right, yeah, uh thank you uh request to pin um this item 208, Mr.

Chair.

As a request to pin line item 208.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh line 209, order general.

Uh Mr.

Mr.

Whitaker.

You can't see Renee, but she she needs to speak.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Sure.

Thank you.

Sorry to describe you uh not at all.

But if we may go back to line item 207, we received communication that this item, the Southfield Yard pumps, should be in DPW.

Okay.

Oh, yes.

I'm not sure why it was in DWSD.

Okay.

So if we can place that into DPW, please.

Line item 207.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Short.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um 209, Audio General OAG to report to council on the duplication of services on a continuous basis.

Um maybe semi-annually.

Councilmember Waters.

Sorry.

Oh.

Oh, um closing resolution motion.

The motion for closing resolution for line item 209.

Are there any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Okay.

Um line 210, we're now at border zoning appeals.

Uh court reporting across governmental departments.

Cons member McCampbell.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, request to pin this.

We're we're in conversation with um reach out to the uh director trying to see how we can reduce the cost on the transcript.

So we're quest to pin.

There's a request to pin line item 210.

Any objections?

See none.

Oh, well, you don't have to motion.

There's a motion, there's a request to append 210, Mr.

Corley.

All right.

Two elevated line two eleven, still um BZA.

Um entire BZA budget.

Councilmember Benson.

Uh request a pen.

I'm looking for a number here.

If I don't get it um by our second session today, I'll be removing this.

Thank you.

Okay, line 212, BZA steel.

Community outreach review in general for various departments, potential incorporation to the community outreach ordinance that may impact the work completed by the BCA, BC, and other departments.

Councilmember Johnson.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'd like to pin this item.

Um would like to have conversations with Member Miller and her team before we proceed.

There's a request to pin line item 212, colleagues.

Moving to 213.

All right, 213 city council now.

Um sensory and or quiet room at the Coleman Alexander Young and Municipal Center.

Um presentate.

Yeah, so uh we are looking to figure out how and where we would place this type of um very needed uh based on the feedback that we've gotten uh space in uh the Colman and Young Municipal Center as you know we don't own this facility, so we would have to negotiate and work with the uh joint building authority.

Uh so I'd like to first place this item line item 213 into closing resolution, colleagues.

Is there a motion, please?

Thank you.

There's a motion to place line item 213 into closing resolution, and I would like to pin this item as we have conversation with the joint building authority to see how we might be able to work something out and where Mr.

Corley.

All right, um line 214.

We're now going into 36th district court.

Um there were a number of requests from the court.

Uh for instance, uh, and it and and the total request was like 1.8 million.

Um there's for three hundred thousand for civil staffing, five hundred thousand for general operations, five hundred thousand for the specialty court, and five hundred thousand um to increase the court's employee wages in accordance with the city's living wage policy.

Um, and so we have that one point eight million as recurring and council member uh Johnson.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'd like to request to pin this item so I can have some conversations with um the administration and Mr.

Johnson offline.

Okay, there's a request to pin line item 214, colleagues.

Line item 216, Mr.

Corley.

Oh, right.

Still district court increase uh budget by 300,000 for the Southwest Detroit Community Justice Center.

Council Member Santiago Romero.

Member Santiago Romero.

Uh motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve $300,000.

Is that one time or I will say one time?

I'm going to assume they need the money reoccurring.

I know that this is the gap that they have now.

They do look for other funding sources as well.

Um, but that's a conversation that we can have later.

Um, but this can be one time.

Colleagues, there's a motion for $300,000 one time spending uh for uh line item 216.

Uh with discussion uh member Benson.

But through yourself, was this uh in Judge McConaco's um ask as well?

No.

Okay.

All right, colleagues has a motion on the floor.

Any further?

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Discussion.

Um discussion uh member Benson.

So will you have a conversation to ensure that that the court is aware?

Member, is that through that's to member Santiago Romero?

Member Santiago Romero.

Um through you to member Benson aware that they might be receiving the funding that the I will let the association know.

Um, but they they are a partner um that do hold hearings in community.

We can let everyone know that council is is looking to support this.

That's good.

So then I guess the other question is so they are not part of the 36th district court, but a partner.

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

And can we just amend the spreadsheet to indicate such thank you?

Corley.

Can you make that request again, Mr.

Mr.

Motion to amend the spreadsheet indicate um this is a partner of the court and not the court, so we're not confusing cost centers or appropriations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um, Member Santiago Romero.

I would like to pin this item because now that member Benson's asking these questions, I want to make sure.

Um and Mr.

Johnson, too.

I think we need to can just confirm that we can support this.

Okay.

There's a request to pin line item 216.

Any objections, colleagues?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

Okay.

Um line 217, city clerk, entire city clerk's budget.

Um, name of the council.

Of course, we did not have a budget hearing with them.

And so this is um I know I haven't I have not received individually what any additional request uh for funding was from the clerk's office.

Um colleagues, have you received anything by chance?

We'll reach out and see if there's any uh additional.

Maybe there isn't.

That's why nothing was sent to us.

Um we'll go from there.

That we'll put a pin in this item in case there's additional information that comes forward.

Okay.

Um clerk still 9218 assigned executive protection unit uh staff to C Clerk's office.

That was a pro Tim Young.

Yeah, we're gonna pin that item.

Uh and he did mention something earlier indicating he may remove that item, but I'll let him determine it.

So we're on page now um 16.

Mr.

Corley, if we can also pin line item 219 for the same reason we did for the clerk's budget on 217.

Okay.

And um the last item now in terms of council's um requests for executive session or closing resolution.

That's line 221 library.

Increase the budget by 75,000 for the Office of Learning, early learning to conduct a five-year impact study on increasing the literary literacy rate uh to 75 percent.

Oh, that's pro Tim Young, so I guess we pin that too, right?

Sir, we shall pin line item 221 as well.

That takes us to the end of our uh items that we've added thus far on this first spreadsheet, but I know that uh we did mention that there were a few that were added that were not on the uh original spreadsheet, right?

That will be on the updated one.

When will we get that updated spreadsheet later today or is that coming to the morning tomorrow?

Yeah, appreciate that.

Absolutely discussion with discussion, uh member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

In regards to that, I believe that we had included the Office of Disability Affair to executive session, but that was not on this spreadsheet, Mr.

Corley.

Have you received that to add it to the next spreadsheet that we receive?

I can make sure.

Um present.

Yes, uh Mr.

Corley.

So Office of Disability Affairs, yes.

Um Mr.

President, so Councilmember Johnson, uh would you be sponsoring that pretty much?

Yes, I believe myself and member McCampbell.

Okay.

Uh member Johnson, there's a motion on the floor.

Motion.

That's a motion on the floor.

We please restate the motion.

Uh the motion is to add the Office of Disability Affairs budget into executive session.

All right.

Motion on the floor, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Any further colleagues?

Mr.

Courley, I know I will have additional motions uh as well as I've indicated having conversations with the department.

Some of them uh we've pinned there are gonna be some dollar amount to it and some we're gonna potentially remove.

So just give me a heads up as we um progress.

Ms.

President, we made great progress this morning.

Um it's 1210.

We can stop here and come back at two or so.

Let me just ask, what is that?

What is the expectation at two o'clock?

So I mean I know that we are again having those discussions.

This is that part where it kind of slows down a little bit um because of those discussions.

I'm glad we got past the initial spreadsheet.

So we're gonna get the new spread, well, new spreadsheet tomorrow, but two o'clock.

Um we may or may not have any additional movement, so just uh making that very clear, but you are still seeking that closing resolution language, and that's can be provided to you all literally uh as we speak.

And I'll give Mr.

Whitaker an opportunity to chime in on that as well, because it sounds like you all have not received uh very much in terms of closing resolution from the body as a whole, um looking at how many items we have on this list.

Um not today, but we would love to have that language, and it sounds like it's been a lot of thought, Mr.

McCampbell read some beautiful language, and we hope to get all of that that type of language to you and get it at a at in an amount that we can actually deduce it to the resolution form.

We wanted to circulate last year's resolution so as a as an example as to the type of language we're looking for, so we don't have to do a lot of rewriting.

So we will circulate last year's resolution a hard copy this afternoon at two to give you some uh idea of what we're looking for the resolution to to look and sound like so we'll have that for you at two o'clock.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Mr.

Whitaker.

Um Ms.

Barkley, do you have your hand up as well?

No.

Okay, Mr.

Corley.

Um President, so we can also at two discuss the oversight agencies request.

Yeah, the proposal funding.

Yeah, okay.

All right, colleagues.

I think this is a good time for us to uh break um before we have um public comment, though.

We're gonna have public comment first before we break.

Uh member Benson.

Uh motion to add 135,000 dollars to GSD budget for uh holiday installations and events, similar to what we've had this past year.

All right, college, there's a motion on the floor.

Any of is that uh one time or reoccurrence, sir?

Uh one time for one time.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

All right, is there anyone from the public who would like to speak?

Please raise your hand now.

If you would like to speak on the budget, please raise your hand now, whether you're in person.

I see one hand, or if you're online, if you're in person or online.

Yeah.

Going once, going twice, going three times.

Collection of public comments if now concluded.

I see two gentlemen in the committee of the whole, we can bring them up forward.

Let's get that screen up, y'all.

Gentlemen, if you can come forward, please.

If you can have them come forward, please.

All right.

We're gonna have one minute, as I mentioned, during for the duration of our budget proceedings.

We are having abbreviated public comment sections, but wanted to ensure that public had an opportunity to speak.

For the record, we are only required to have one public comment uh section for the day, but we wanted to allow two for the morning as well as the PM.

Um so, sir, if you can please state your name for the record and the floor is yours.

And keep your eye on that clock because once your time uh uh ends, we're gonna have to ask you to remove yourself from the mic.

Yes, thank you.

Uh my name is Chris Mbime out of uh District 2.

Um I wanted to thank you, uh Council members today.

Um, I had previous experience with a different municipality on the uh community development advisory act council dealing with CDBG um funding.

But I my name is Chris Mbaugh.

I am the president and CEO of Aviators uh Strategies Engagement Strategies and uh new Oyoyo food brand.

Um I'm interested in uh food processing um and manufacturing in Detroit.

I'm looking at a couple of grants, uh, a couple of projects and a couple um areas of investment.

And so uh wanted to come and visit this council about uh mostly to introduce myself.

Thank you.

Welcome, welcome, thank you for joining us today.

It's very important process.

Sir, did you have your hand up as well?

Okay.

Thank you as well for joining us.

Thank you for uh taking part in the proceedings.

Okay, we shall now go to our online callers.

Team, how many callers do we have and who do we have first?

We have seven callers online, sir.

The first caller is Betty A.

Varner.

Miss Betty A.

Varner, the floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Uh good afternoon to all within the sound of my voice.

I'm Betty A.

Barner, the president of the Soda Ellsworth Black Association, advocating for the council and the administration to please consider some type of program, uh relief for black clubs, associations who are uh trying to improve their neighborhood.

They have projects, and with some of the projects, you have to go in front of the city of Detroit, the BC department.

They have this uh process application.

There's a fee of fifteen hundred dollars.

So I'm asking that for relief on that for it to be waived, or the council to come up, find monies to pay that fee for organizations who are doing the work to improve their neighborhoods.

Also, I'm asking for monies, fine monies for corridors who have not been blessed to be being proved new development come to the area.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute.

General public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Good afternoon.

Yes, good afternoon to the chairman.

Yes, ma'am.

Yes, Ms.

Varner, they find money for everything in District 6, but they don't seem to have any money for the people in the other districts.

This is not this is not good government.

Good government is offering Miss Barner what she deserves some relief.

Relief has to be felt for everybody in the city of Detroit.

She is trying, her and her organization are trying to make their neighborhood better.

And you all ought to support that.

And if you don't, we know where you're coming from anyway.

But um, Miss Varner deserves the $1,600 and any other uh block club that wants to improve their neighborhoods because it's not coming from the city, it's gonna have to come from the people.

And so if you're gonna make it prohibitively expensive for them to move forward, then your objective is not to make the city better, it's to punish the people who are left here.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is Tyson Gersh.

Uh Mr.

Gersh, the floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Hi, can you hear me?

Yes, sir.

Thanks.

Um, regarding items 210 through 212, I guess 211 specifically.

Um we really need to have a conversation about the BZA budget.

Um, and like there's just this ongoing issue of oh, it's not available, it's not available, and like that's the problem.

Why isn't it available?

And how do we have a system that ever allowed it to not be fully available at all times?

Um I don't want to be sitting through every single city council call nagging you guys on this.

Like, can we just deal with it, please?

Um BZA's budgeted to do its transcripts.

It's part of its record keeping duty, and council appropriates the funds, and the department cannot not spend that money, even as a matter of efficiency if they're not doing the job.

Like the the thing has to be accomplished.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is caller name president.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Good afternoon, May I be heard.

Yes, ma'am.

One minute, not enough.

Um, I uh second the emotions of uh uh and the comment of Mr.

Tyson Gersh before why can't we just deal with it?

You'd have less frequent fires, President Tate, if you just deal with a lot of these issues, and then just think about all the time you'd have for things.

On that note, I want to propose a pilot program that I think members Santiago Romero and also member Callaway, uh, because of their no votes and solar, I would give them Harriet Tubman awards too.

But I would like to propose a nap diversion program that before you throw up throw people into court, make sure the place is secure, let place know it's vacant, work with the office of sustainability, and work towards repairing housing and not and and financial literacy and not taking people's property.

That would be the nice way.

And uh next caller, please.

Caller is number ending in 039.

Caller ending in 039.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Everybody in ear chat, happy new year.

James Tate, Jr., your plan that you and Warren Evans, that's the county commission uh executive, and Solomon Killarch, that's the pastor, yo Pastor, and um Conrad Mallet Jr., that's the general corporation for the city of Detroit.

General Corporation Council, it ain't gonna work to get Mary removed or resigned.

Get her to resign tomorrow.

It ain't gonna work.

And y'all are cheating in anyway.

I'm gonna put it out there because it's the truth.

Y'all TV and Jenna have been cheating in the elections for over 15 years.

I can only prove since 2020.

2021, 2022, and 2024.

And Mimi won't want she won't.

Now y'all made me get back.

Happy New Year, everyone.

It's up.

Did you hear that, Jay T Jr.?

Next caller, please.

Next caller is Denise Darnell, PHT.

All right, caller.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute.

General public comment.

Good afternoon.

Can I be heard?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

I heard a gentleman yesterday during your session make a comment about air quality in the city of Detroit and how it affects seniors, people with asthma, and just overall, how our air quality in many areas is less than what is permissible by the EPA.

Our building safety engineering and environmental department or BC in collaboration with the Green Door Initiative.

They have been hosting community training on the basics and benefits of air monitoring and how citizens of the city can advocate for clean air.

I heard their excellent presentation over in district three, and I believe they went to all seven districts back in March.

So if anyone wants more information on air quality in the city, they can go to Detroit Michigan.gov slash air quality or call 313-224-9391.

Their next session is in July uh June.

And I support senior smoothies, Mary Waters.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is iPhone.

IPhone.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Well, uh I just want to know when we're gonna have a better government.

And uh I listened to you.

You won't do anything that I ask like at put in chat to make the community stronger.

And uh it won't put the transcript up on the I I don't hear these details now.

Maybe I missed it.

Is it in the budget to put chat back on like we had up for the uh when we did the charter meetings?

Is it are you gonna put the transcript of the meetings?

And can you record all the meetings, the water meetings too?

And put those up on so people can see what their government is doing.

I went down to get the uh I they don't even have records of what they've done on the main water line on my street in the water department.

Thank you so much.

Next caller, please.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Um, hello.

Yes, good afternoon.

Um hi, Council President.

This is uh Steen, the executive director from the Financial Review Commission.

And I was wondering, um, did either the budget director or Mr.

Corley is that spreadsheet posted on your either of your web pages?

I'd like to be able to pull down a copy while I follow you guys.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Make sure you get a copy of it.

Next caller, please.

That is the end of online calling, sir.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have a one-minute general public comment.

Oh, that's the end of online callers, sir.

I'm sorry.

That is the end of online callers.

All right, that takes us to the end of our online public comments.

Uh, Mr.

Crawley, uh, uh, do we know uh if the spreadsheet where folks can find the spreadsheet uh publicly?

Ms.

President, um I did ask that we put I asked our um executive assistant to put it on LPD's website yesterday.

So we're working on it, and I apologize for not doing it in the first day, but we are working on it.

Well, no worries for those who may not be familiar with uh LPD's website.

Can someone give LPD's website um publicly?

Do you have the uh website uh address?

Oh, you would um Ms.

President go on to city council's so you city Detroit, City Council, and then uh LPD.

Okay, let's say the policy division.

I will try to give somebody some Google friendly um uh directions as we uh reconvene.

All right, colleagues, uh we are set to uh reconvene at 2 p.m.

where we will again uh go back into the um a spreadsheet, but also have a discussion about the proportion of funding that has been requested by our our uh over sight agencies.

Is there a motion to recess until 2 p.m.?

See no objections that action shall be taken.

This meeting is now in recession.