So back to order or good evening now.

I'd like to call back to order the expanded budget finance and audit standing committee for the purposes of the budget.

Madam Clerk, good afternoon, good evening.

You're gonna get it right.

Good evening.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

President.

Councilmember Denville McCampbell.

Present.

Councilmember Renana Miller.

Here.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Council Member Mary Waters.

President.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Council President Pro Tim Coleman Young.

Council President James Tate.

Yep.

Mr.

President, we have quorum.

Thank you.

We have a quorum, which means we're now in session.

Mr.

Corley, I know you're back there crunching numbers running short.

What do we come up with thus far?

Thank you.

Um president.

I want to first thank the uh city planning commissioners for agreeing to meet in the auditorium.

Really appreciate that.

Absolutely.

Normally meet you know in here, but um to um free up the space for council during this very important budget process, they uh they agree to meet in the auditorium.

So really appreciate that.

Um I do need to ask about one item, and if we can go page 18.

And uh these are line items 198 and 199.

So we combine those two line items and we place 4.5 million to that that got approved, but I need clarity on my understanding that's also being addressed in the administration's closing resolution.

Does that mean that the administration is going to find the money?

Or the 4.5 was that actually added as a one-time general fund.

So I just I just need clarity on that one.

So if we can start, Mr.

President, you know, when we say it's going to be added into the administration's closing resolution, does that mean that they're gonna try to identify the funding to come up with 4.5 million dollars?

Ms.

Johnson, hopefully can answer that.

Mr.

Johnson.

Uh through the chair to Mr.

Corley, yes.

So we will um provide the the where the funding is located.

When we're putting it in our closing resolution, it's because it's it's funding that was already included in the let's say the capital budget, for example, in in the example of this item, these dollars were already part, they're already there's already money set aside for parks, and so what I'm saying is we will make sure that we set aside, I'm committing to set aside those dollars specifically for this use.

Um, for that.

So, yes, we provide that.

And Mr.

President, Mr.

Johnson, so you're looking to do that um using current year resources, or are you gonna just find it in fiscal 2027?

Mr.

Johnson.

Uh thank you, Mr.

President.

Uh, for through you to Mr.

Corley.

So it's it's gonna be a little bit of both.

So three million of that 4.5 is in the current existing capital budget that's in place right now.

And those are funds we'd already set aside for the new the new Brennan Center construction.

Um the pistons, it's sort of our match to the pistons funding that's gonna be for the new center.

The 1.5 million will come from next year's capital allocation.

Um it's around eight million in change in capital in general services for the parks and recreation category of investment.

1.5 million of that will now be um earmarked specifically for the use um for the renovations to the what I've started to call old Brennan versus New Brennan.

Um so for schedule B, I I think I know why we're the the angle of the question.

How would we show this in our schedule B?

Um we wouldn't because it's gonna be part of the administration's closing resolution.

So, Mr.

President, so I get that.

So it sounds like then when it comes to fund for 4533, that's capital.

So the mayor has eight point one million dollars for GSD park development.

So you're saying you would take 1.5 million from that, right?

Yes, sir.

Okay, so that means then that the 8.1 million has to be uh reduced by the 1.5.

Okay.

Not really.

So basically, we're sort of earmarking the 8 million.

We're starting to subdivide that 8 million into uses, um, committed uses.

So what I would do is I would allocate the 1.5 million, let's say when we do the forwarding, putting fast forward and going to the end of this process when the budget is adopted, and it's time for my team to prepare the file to load it into the general ledger and into the ERP system.

What I would do is I would set aside these dollars into their own project numbers so that they show as separate line items in the electronic budget that lives in the ERP, so that if we ran a funds availability report, the FAR report that we all run, you would see these as separate allocations within that eight million dollars, as opposed to like a lump sum of eight million dollars to later be broken out, it would be loaded.

The budget would be loaded with the breakout already done.

So I'm I'm sorry, I I wasn't clear, Mr.

President.

So if council were to it to were to decide to reduce that 8.1 million to cover your sources, then if you agree the 1.5 million for Brennan would be deducted from that.

That's all I'm saying.

So we we do not have we do not have as a source right now taking money from the 8.1 million for part development.

We do not have that on that sheet.

But I'm just saying if we were to go there, you would have to reduce that 8.1 million by 1.5 with the understanding that that 1.5 will go towards the Brennan uh facility.

So that's all I'm saying.

Let's just keep that in mind as we go through this.

So okay.

So um that's good.

Before you go, member Mr.

Mr.

Benson Member Benson.

At this space, so the 1.5, what would be the uses of that 1.5 in the 8.1?

So if we're taking 1.5 out of the 8.1 to go towards recreation recreation center development, what were the uses identified for that 1.5 prior to the rec center development?

Uh through the chair, uh Chief Council Member Benson, the uses would have been um we would have it just would have been money to go toward the the PRIP, the PRIP, the parks and recreation improvement plan.

So each year we have each, you know, we've kind of phased out as we do the five-year PRIP every five or five years, um, it sort of sets out which parks we're trying to target in each year.

It gets it's a little fluid, it's never completely locked in as things shift or needs needs require, but um it would just be um we would be allocating those funds from those types of parks improvements over to this type of improvement.

Okay, sort of a it's a call we make regularly.

Got it.

So through the chair to Mr.

Quarley, could you please keep that as a note?

The 1.5, the uses for that source source were park or the PRIP, what did you call it?

The the parks and recreation improvement plan.

The PRIP.

Please let it be no, that's the source was the PRIP.

Thank you.

So we'll we can keep track of once we're moving, we're moving it from what those uses would have been.

Yes, and if I might I will note that some of that eight million would have gone to recreation center improvements, it wasn't all just parks or all just rec centers, it was split.

We're just kind of militating more toward recenter for that time.

Okay.

So so it's it's good news that I did not need to um include a 4.5 for Brennan because administration is looking to address that.

So we had so for one time we had 16.5 million, 16.5 million.

So we were at um page 21 line 239 for general fund uh one time we're going from 22.9 million rounding down to member member miller just oh I'm sorry.

You made uh member miller, if you could mute yourself, please, that'd be helpful.

So we can hear your background noise.

Thank you so much.

Okay, so we're going from 22.9 million down to 16.5 million with all the changes that council made between yesterday and today.

And so um Mr.

President, you you want to just go right to the sources for these columns, so we can deal with that, or we you want to just give you the numbers right now, this overall numbers.

Let's look at the numbers first and then we can certainly talk about it.

Okay, let's do that.

So we had 16.5 million for general fund one time.

Okay, general fund recurring, we're going from 4.8 million rounding down to uh about 2 million uh to be exact 1,974,000 for general fund recurring.

So that's pretty good.

Okay, let's go to column N.

This is non-general fund, just uh you know and mention this.

So for the one time, that 2.25 million doesn't change the non-general fund recurring goes from 4.4 million down to 1.3 million.

So that's pretty good, but that's to be picked up, you know, by the um street fund.

So that's where we are with numbers, and with the new changes, I want to I just want to see what percentage of that would be a proposed general fund real quick.

I do apologize.

Yes.

Um when you calculate those numbers, what what would be the total changes uh in the total amount for gener for general fund and uh non-general?

Yeah, so sixteen point.

Oh you calculated, I'm sorry.

Yeah, no problem.

And I'm just rounding off one point and seven.

Okay, so that's eighteen.

I'm gonna divide that by um I think general fund is one uh five five and that's an image of that out loud there.

So that's about twelve about twelve about twelve percent.

I mean uh one point, I'm sorry, one point uh one point nine percent, so about two percent.

I think that's reasonable.

I really do, you know.

And so and it and and so that's the percentage, and again, I didn't I didn't calculate the numbers.

I can do that, but I didn't know if you had done so the for column U and column V.

What's the total amount?

So column U.

So the the new column U is 16.5 plus one point seven, sixteen point five two plus one point nine seven.

So the so the new column U is eighteen million four hundred and ninety thousand.

Okay, and so you divide that into you know the general fund budget.

Yeah, that's that's one point that's one point two percent.

Okay.

I think that's very that's very reasonable.

And what about uh column V?

B isn't Victor?

V okay, that's that's non-general fund.

Um so I'm I mean that that that does still represent council changes.

Okay, so you're right.

So eighteen point four or five plus six point seven, divide that one.

So you go from one point two percent to one point six percent.

So you still total what's that what's the actual dollar amount?

Uh I'm so sorry, okay.

So that's uh eighteen point four five plus six point seven, so that's twenty-five million thousand.

Uh Western that's the total council's changes.

18.

Yeah, go ahead.

So V, if we go all the way down to V, and we if we were to look at V and uh correlate it with 239, what would that number be?

Well, you know what?

And V, okay.

I'm so sorry, V V change because we went from four four million four hundred down to one point three.

That's right.

Okay.

So V V changes, you gotta subtract a six six six point seven.

And if this came in for that looks so V goes to three point three million six hundred thousand.

Thank you.

Okay, yeah.

So yeah, thank you for that.

So total council's changes to the budget.

So 18.

18.45.

409 plus 3.6.

20.

That's so that's 22 million.

100,000.

22 million hundred thousand.

Okay, and what percentage is there is a budget, total Jennifer and budget?

1.4%.

I think council is being very reasonable and prudent.

I really do.

So for the um general fund one time.

I'm here to answer sources.

So we will go to page, start at page 21.

And uh the first one time source.

So that we actually go to page 22.

And uh so we're we're suggesting taking five hundred thousand dollars.

This is this is fund uh one thousand and three.

And and let me say this.

So let me say this.

You know, um one thousand is where a lot of the mayor's initiatives that coincide a lot with council's initiatives are not touching that, you know, because so council basically is in a locked step in general with the mayor on major um initiatives.

I think that's I think that's that's his a lot.

So now we're going to other pots where we feel there's more wiggle room.

You're gonna get pushback, right?

For Mr.

Johnson, and he's good.

I give it to him.

He is good, he is good.

He is good.

You're gonna get pushback, but you know, one point four percent and changes to reflect your priorities.

You're agreeing with the mayor locked step with her general priorities that you all generally agree with.

I believe the mayor should not veto.

If you go with this, she should not be told.

This is my this is Earth Courting Citizen talking.

She should not veto.

Mayor Duggan did not veto former mayor Dugan did not veto one time in his 12 years.

Let's continue that going into 2027.

Council members, we got four years to end up with balanced budgets.

You know what that means?

We will come out of completely a Detroit Financial Review Board Oversight.

That would resound through the world.

That's a that's a worldwide that goes viral.

African American woman, mayor primarily African American and Hispanic on the on the council, and we can still maintain balanced budgets.

You know the ads are looking at us, right?

They're looking at it.

Let's just be honest and for real about it.

And we're gonna do it, council.

Yes, sir.

We're gonna do it.

Lord willing.

I'm gonna be with you all another six years.

Yes, sir.

Lord willing.

Yes, sir.

I'd be 75.

Amen.

Lord willing.

And when I turn 75, bye, y'all.

Bye.

It's been good.

That would be 44 years if I'm blessed to make that.

That would be 44 years with this city.

That would go 44 years.

That's I'm I'm going on 69.

That's more than about two thirds of my lifetime.

And I and I love it here.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Love it.

Thank you, Mr.

Corey.

So we can go.

So the mayor can go.

And I love Mayor Sheffield.

She can come on and agree with you all with 1.4% changes to the budget.

She can do that.

So having said that, I really don't want to go over the sources.

To be honest with you, but I know you want to be prudent.

You're gonna get pushback.

So you know, you're gonna get that.

I feel like you should stick with what I got in terms of the one times, the the the recurring, I would say, because we're down to 1.97 million for for recurring.

We suggest taking two million dollars.

That's on page 22.

Okay, two million dollars.

Okay, we we so just to remind the council in the police department, the mayor's adding 71 positions.

We know 71 positions.

I'm so sorry, I don't have a dollar amount what that amounts to, but you know, the the average salary in police now, these are primarily civilian positions.

Um so say civilian average is 55,000, so 55,000 times 71 positions.

That's that's uh about about four million.

And so what we're saying, so that's four million, they're not gonna all be hired July 1.

They're probably gonna be hired, you know, by January 1.

So that's that's the two million there.

Turnover savings.

So I I suggest you know the two million go with that, turnover savings, police going back to one time.

You know, I can I can um I can um say where it's coming from for the sake of the public.

We're suggesting taking um, and in fact, we can reduce this now because we're down to 16.5 million, these total up to 20 million.

Okay, I hear that about the fleet.

So I would say I would say okay, fleet, that would be that's the 12 million that's a 12.

So we do reduce that by uh reduce that by 3.5 so um and uh okay so okay now so the sources that we're suggesting $500,000 from the blight remediation fund for uh that's construction and demolition, black remediation fund, right?

Okay, so and then we're suggesting a reduction of 6.5 million in uh the black remediation fund that's GSD.

Um so we feel like you know we can do that, and then one another one million uh reducing 45 33 capital projects, and then and then reducing uh the fleet that was 20 million, that's the big one.

So reducing that by 8.5.

Um, I know Mr.

Johnson has alluded to you know, they want to buy some emergency emergency vehicles or what have you.

You know, I I would think that would be an opportunity to to look at the uh installment purchase agreement.

You know, first of all, have we exhausted all of those dollars?

I don't I don't know that.

So that's one question.

I think he mentioned that if we were to use IPA installment purchase agreement, the interest rates are a little higher now, you know, but we're not talking about borrowing in my mind a whole lot.

I know the interest rates would be higher.

I I get that, you know, and in fact, so let me stop there.

So I I just think there's there's some room there.

You know, it you know, as Ms.

Short always reminds me, you know, it's gonna take a while to to contract out the type of vehicles, you know, the specs, you know, for those type of vehicles.

That takes a while, they gotta bid them if they don't go with a current contractor.

So it you know, it some of that may not all be done in fiscal 2027, I guess is what I'm suggesting.

So I just feel that's a reasonable, you know, um spot.

And then let me let's say this last, going back to council member Benson's brilliant idea.

If they're maybe chair brilliant, we'll let them finish first.

If they really feel if the if uh Mayor Sheffield administration feel cut council is cut into it a little bit too much, they come back with a budget amendment in September after they firm up with that 42 million is in the reserve account at capital income um tax reserve account, come back to city council and fill it back in.

Okay, Ms.

Corner.

I think I think this is reasonable.

I really do.

Um member Benson.

Oh, Mr.

Chair, I was having difficulty hearing.

What did you say about that idea, Mr.

Corland?

What I do I didn't hear that.

With a capital B.

I'm in brilliant.

Capital B.

Mr.

Coraler.

Yeah, uh, Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um, so to the vehicle the fleet vehicle budget on on that point, um, the procurement has already been done.

So we use blanket purchase contract agreements for vehicles, so we've already spec'd all of our vehicles.

All we do at this point is order them, and then they are delivered.

So there is no procurement timeline, there is none of that.

Um we we we've completely reworked how fleet procurement works.

Um, and so pretty much what we do is when the order books open in their regular periods, we make the order, um, and then the manufacturers begin manufacturing and upfitting and then delivering.

So um the lead time on that is pretty low.

To the point of financing the vehicles with an IPA, I mean, we're talking about the volume we need to do per year.

We're gonna be incurring general fund LTGO debt service of 13 to 15 million dollars piling on top of each other every time we do an L um an IPA.

So that is why we are not currently pursuing it because that would be adding to the burden on the general fund.

These are not UTGO instruments, they're not approved by voters, so they're not covered by the debt millage.

Um that obviously we're not looking to add 13 to 15 million dollars of pressure to the general fund at this time.

Ms.

President, so Corla, how much do we have left available in the IPA and installment purchase agreement pot?

Mr.

Johnson?

Uh nothing.

Um the the final order has been finalized um and entered, so the IPA is exhausted.

And so, Mr.

President, so Mayor Sheffield is suggesting 20 million dollars be spent spent on fleet.

How much of that of the 20 million is slated for the emergency vehicles for police?

The entirety um for both police and fire.

So because they're the highest priority, and because we're now having to pay for vehicles um out of cash, so to speak, um, without a financing mechanism, we have deprioritized the non-emergency service vehicle component.

Um, and because emergency vehicles comprise the largest portion of our fleet and the most expensive portion of our fleet, that 20 million dollars is as um exclusively for the public safety component.

I will also note that the 20 million is not sufficient for what we need to order each year to maintain our replacement schedule.

Um that's upwards of 24 to 28 million dollars.

Um, and so um it's you know, fire apparatus are very expensive and they take a long time to be delivered, so we have to order them well in advance in order to keep that pipeline flowing for replacement.

So that is the the situation.

So, you know, when the mayor recommends 20 million dollars for fleet, it is we we chose to focus only on public safety vehicles, not anything else.

You know, general services and the other folks, they'll we're gonna just try to get a longer useful life out of the vehicles we have and you know take as good a care of them as we can um until we figure out a more long-term funding solution for the fleet.

It's an intractable problem that a lot of large city governments are now running into.

Ms.

President, you know, I I hear that, and that's that's understandable.

Um we're suggesting take 8.5 from the 20 million, so that leaves 11.5.

That gets them still the opportunity to start ordering the emergency vehicles based on the contracts as he's saying, Mr.

Johnson is saying they already have in place.

Okay, that's fine.

And then Mayor Sheffield, uh, if you agree, they she just comes back.

She just comes back to you in the fall with 8.8.5 million.

Um I I you know I think there's a you know, you can't predict the future.

I definitely don't have a crystal ball.

Um, but you know, I think it's I think it's definitely unlikely that the 42 million is going to be used up.

You know, the revenues that you know, yes, to member Callaway's um point earlier and others made yesterday.

Yes, we are projecting for a corporate income tax shortfall, but the revenue consensus process in February showed that the run rate is still about the same and has improved a little bit.

And in budget finance and audit committee, we've had um we've had uh a monthly financial report through seven months through January.

Corporate income tax revenue still was lowered in last year, but not as badly.

So and uh right now, employers, you know, our biggest chunk that we get for income tax revenue is from withholding.

Employees right now, thankfully, are not doing major layoffs.

GM announced a 1300 layoff at factory zero, but my understanding that's just temporary.

Right.

So I just don't see a huge shortfall, if any in on the revenue side and last year, in order for so let me remind council, Mayor Duggan, former mayor Duggan came to council saying we need to set aside 42 million dollars for the corporate income tax projected shortfall back in the fall.

Back then, the general fund surplus was projected at $60 million.

We ended up with $147 million general fund surplus.

Um reserve.

So we have so the mayor was able to use 105 million from that general funds surplus.

Um so that means that the administration, you know, let's give former mayor Duggan some credit.

He basically set out an edict and told his division directors cut back on spending.

Mayor Sheffield can do the same thing.

If it's looking like you know, the revenues are not coming in as what would like, and that's keep in mind we got the we got the reserve 42 million dollar reserve.

If need be, she can cut back on spending so that we can end up with a with a greater, you know, um general fund surplus as of June 30, 2026.

So I you know I just I still think that it's reasonable, take the 8.5 million from the 20 million that gives her and her and policing fire an opportunity to start buying vehicles.

They can they got 11.5, they can start buying the vehicles, and then um uh Mayor Sheffield, you know, comes back with a budget amendment in the fall.

So I'm still there.

Thank you, Mr.

Corley.

Uh, with discussion of Pro Tim Young.

Yes, um, I wanted to ask you, Mr.

Johnson, um what would an extra million in this budget do?

Because I've just got word that um the food restoration pilot program can do without the money I wanted to appropriate from it.

So if you could just kind of tell me what extra million would do because I'm getting ready to remove that item and release that the hold on one million dollars.

Um at this point, that million dollars released would be um not given back into the pot, it would be getting the pot back down to a number that the administration um is would be willing to agree to, getting closer to that target.

Okay.

Um we are currently over that target um at this time, which is why we're having this discussion.

Um I will know in terms of funding sources.

Um needless to say, I you know, I I disagree with um most of the proposed funding sources here, but that's not to say that I won't work to provide alternative funding sources.

So at this stage in the game, as we all know, um, if um if if we have not objected to something, it's because we have we are we are okay with it moving forward as well, and we will work with you to find the funding or find the solution to make it happen.

So with what's in the sheet right now, um, for the most part, there are some exceptions that we'll continue to discuss.

Um there are items that um we are um you know fine with moving forward with as changes to the budget, and we are also fine with doing um the effort to identify the palatable funding locations where um we can make that work.

Obviously, one-time funding is going to come from blight and capital, but I'll be able to uh to target which um side that money comes from and which items are matched up there.

There are also some items where additional resources aren't needed, they really are already in the budget.

We're just going to allocate resources that were already put in.

So in some cases, we're not really moving the funds anywhere else or adding new funds.

We're simply saying, as we were discussing earlier with the capital example, we're going to agree to earmark funds that were not specifically earmarked in the original proposed budget, but now we will earmark them in a very specific way with a commitment to spend them for that specific purpose.

So that's not really adding more resources into the budget.

It's simply relabeling the resources that are in the budget to more specific uses than they were initially proposed for.

Um and I think that's gonna bring down the number in a sort of technical sense because again, we're not adding, we're not pulling from another appropriation.

We're simply earmarking within an existing appropriation, the capital one, for example, for specific uses that were not previously specified.

So you know, one thing that we'll do like we do every year is we'll provide our alternative list of funding sources that will cover all of the things we've agreed to so far.

Um, and uh that you know will allow us to avoid any serious disruptions to either operations or capital um programs.

Mr.

Quarley, did you want to say something?

Contribute.

Oh, I'm sorry, Mr.

President.

May I ask Mr.

Corley to Mr.

Quirley, did you want to contribute to that a little bit?

Um, Mr.

President, uh to Pro Tem you know, I'm more than happy to look at their alternative, you know, we are look of of addressing uh your priorities.

Um so you know, Mr.

Johnson and his team could if they can present that, you know, say first thing on Monday morning.

Give us a chance to take a look at it.

And we'll you know uh report to you what we feel about it.

I guess to me, it's still the same thing in a sense and and and and in terms of you still shifting monies, you gotta be still shifting monies from some of Mayor Sheffield's priorities to even do that.

If if you if you got a product money and you're gonna and you're gonna re-earmark it to a console change, you're still taking something away from what she agreed to put into the proposed budget.

Right.

So it's it to me it's the same thing.

But if if if it that helps to accomplish what you know council is trying to do, you know, I'm I'm I don't think I have a problem with that.

Take a look at it, we can talk about it.

And let's try to do it Monday morning.

So we can so hopefully council can you know agree with um the overall you know changes and everything, you know.

I think I say about two o'clock if sooner on Monday, if we can, you know, but so I don't want to interrupt, but I think it's important for the administration to give us the responses to some of the um dollar amounts that we're looking for as well, so we can close this out.

So that is critical for us to receive that.

I know I'm on the hook for a few.

Uh we've got um a couple of fillers out and other colleagues as well.

So that's gonna help get us to that point, pro to no, thank you, Mr.

President.

I was wondering, is it appropriate for you to make a motion to uh uh to uh remove the one million dollars from the food restoration pilot program in line item 191?

Is that appropriate?

Yes, uh it's appropriate.

All right, I would like to make a motion to move the one million dollars for staff operating costs to re-establish the food restoration pilot program.

Um that's line item one ninety-one.

Okay.

So we never put a dollar amount in there.

Right.

Um, but we just kind of talked it out.

So did you want to closing resolution?

We just want to remove the item.

Yeah, I just want to move it up because I thought one minute, I thought it might be in there.

So my so if it's not that's no, that that's fine.

So that case, yeah, I just want to remove the item there.

Motion to remove line item 191.

Okay, colleagues, there's a motion to remove line item 191 from the spreadsheet.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

I'm done, thank you.

Mr.

President, um, member Santiago Romero.

Thank you.

Something real brief just to clean up the spreadsheets.

Uh, would like to combine items 71 and 73 into one?

This is all related to language access.

Uh we have already approved the monetary amounts.

If we combine these, then we can also include our closing resolution.

Um, so to make it easier, I guess would like to combine item 71 with line item 73 and add to closing resolution.

Okay, college there's a motion to combine the um closing resolution language for line item 73 and 71.

Um objections.

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you, member Sanchez remember that the the 72,000 though is that's remaining.

Yes, and that was approved by us already.

Okay.

Thank you.

Any further unpinning or any further cleaning up of the spreadsheet, colleagues?

With discussion, member Benz.

Uh like to add to a uh closing resolution.

One of the issues we we don't see this year is addition to the rainy day fund.

And for me, that's a fiscal discipline issue.

I want to make sure that we continue to do that moving forward at this late stage.

Um I like to see us try to get once we see additional funds come up, the administration come back and support a one percent um increase to the rainy day fund, put that in the closing resolution, which is 15 million dollars, I believe.

Discussion.

We do have that.

I'm the president.

We we have that fantastic.

Okay.

Okay.

Um no motion requested.

All right.

Never mind.

Okay.

All right.

Any further colleagues?

Mr.

Corley, any further?

I'm fine, thank you.

Okay, great job, team.

Great job.

Yeah, colleagues.

Great job, Mr.

Corley and all.

So we shall now go to public comment.

If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak, please raise your hand now, whether you're in the committee of the whole or if you're at home.

Please raise your hand now.

Going once, going twice, going three times.

The collection of public comments have now concluded.

I see no hands in the committee of the whole team.

How many callers do we have online?

And who do we have first?

All right.

I'll say it again.

Team, how many callers do we have?

And who do we have first?

Good evening, Council President.

We have nine callers online.

Our first caller being resident.

All right, let's get that clock on the screen, as I mentioned to everyone.

Uh, we are having abbreviated public comments during our budget process.

So there will be one minute placed on the clock.

One minute for public comment, noting this is the second opportunity for public comment today.

Which is not required.

It's only once.

Allowing twice, two and we're getting the clock up.

Question that was written.

All right.

Okay, who's our first caller team?

Our first caller is resident.

All right, resident.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute.

General public comment.

Resident, are you there?

They're gonna agree.

All right, let's put resident at the end of the queue.

Hello, hello.

Yes, ma'am.

It takes a little while to unmute there.

Um, so I was multitasking.

I didn't follow all of the arduous tasks that you all did today.

Thank you.

Um, however, I still don't understand why there's this problem with busy transcripts.

And uh there's gotta be a way to get services such as whatever other communities are using, which are probably less expensive to have forms of records that are available to people because during the budget presentation, Director Ribron came in and showed a photo of uh uh computer that was available in the office, supposedly for people to look at BZA records.

And I came in, I was told by staff I had to send Mr.

Ribrine an email.

Then he sent me some stuff, but he didn't send me the zoom tape.

Why not?

Other community communities do it.

So, you know, there was a time when we needed court reporters, unfortunately with technology.

Some people can get put out of jobs, but but we can have a modernized, more efficient, costly, cost effective way that is not it works so much.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is owner Papa.

All right, caller.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Well, good evening, hard working council.

Didn't look like we're making sausage, it looked more like uh robbing Peter to pay Paul.

I'm wondering why we're spending 20 million dollars on police cars.

I uh I think there's uh two or three police cars for every police.

Please let's stop with the police car buy.

Uh you want to make some money, charge to ride the um um queue line and uh charge for it.

You can do it electronically.

Um I have lots of uh things that you could do to make money, like uh audit the B set for all our blight tickets and get our money for that.

And uh the other one is um there were so many.

I could have thought of um uh the contracts.

Uh we we we can do better with the contracts.

I thought that you you know we had to have capacity before we got them, and now I hear we have like a million dollars from the state for a food program that you guys can't implement because you don't have capacity.

That sounds a little sad.

Thank you.

All right, next caller, please.

Council President, our next caller is caller ending in 039.

Caller ending in 039.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute, your own public comment.

To make it to the SOMA has to be scrutinized up.

Once that's done, we have to come on, caller.

I know you're there.

Okay, you say junior and the rest of the city council.

I'm not gonna play no games with none of y'all.

Can you see Coleman didn't shoot herself?

It's a cover up of cover up of a cover up of an attempted cover up mark of a murder.

And now y'all that did what y'all did with this budget.

I listened to it, I set up a listen to everything.

So now it's gonna be legal action that's got to be taken against all y'all cheated in members on the city council.

And James Kate Jr.

and do Woodfield Calloway, the scholar Scott Benson.

We're all familiar with uh wide angle look at it.

And the liar, Gabriela Cranciago Mayor, and I'm Ruben James Crowley Jr.

The 93rd, well, the third precinct delegate for the state of Michigan and uh member of the executive republican prior to our committee for the state of Michigan.

Y'all, it's uh I'm gonna do what I gotta do to get the little lady what she won't.

Y'all keep it in Janet's been keeping elections for until year.

Next caller, please.

Council president, our next caller is Betty A.

Varner.

Let's get that one minute on the clock.

Miss Betty A.

Varner, the floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Ms.

Ronner, are you there?

The reiner, are you there?

Sure.

What we want to present.

I wanted to make sure that let's put Ms.

Ronor at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

Council President, our next caller is Tyson Gersh.

Tyson Gersh, the floor is yours.

You have one minute, general public comment.

Around before the VT for the um for the drive-through.

Caller, are you there?

Um I think that when all of a sudden are you.

Yep, the notification just came up to unmute.

Um, so I guess you know, it's like we kind of forgot the whole part where city council never authorized the BZA to charge people the alleged original cost of production for these transcripts.

The duty's clear under the ordinance and under the BZA rules.

It always has been.

There's been no legislative authorities that would empower the BZA to be charging these service fees in the first place.

Also, it's not a service, it's just the BZA's record that it has to prepare as defined by the municipality, which has remained unchanged since it was implemented.

Um like LPD's report on that was completely incorrect, with all due respect.

And I don't know why council just won't address the issue.

Um 60 seconds is too short, but you know, they just can't do this.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is iPhone.

IPhone.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute.

General public comment.

Um trying to pull over.

I was driving.

Uh I just uh one bothers me is that I ask questions and nobody answers them.

Like the people left from the department of elections.

I noticed they weren't there when we gave the public comment.

So they're not there to answer any questions we have.

Maybe we might think of something that you forgot to think about, or you're glad that we did think about it.

But nobody gets to benefit because you shut us out.

We don't have chat either.

Uh and uh uh if you don't, I mean, how do you expect people to want to vote when they nobody even listen to them?

The ones that do call in.

I mean this has got to change.

You need somehow you gotta get some neighborhood budgeting or the neighborhood gets to budget some of this money and try the world social form in Brazil.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is William M.

Davis, Mr.

William M.

Davis.

The floor is yours.

You have one minute, general public comment.

Uh good acting and a good evening.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Okay, I think a greater effort needs to be made.

You know, like I said, the police department is you know it's large, has a big budget.

Uh but I think some money should be ultimately being able to divert because the police department runs on a whole lot of mental challenges sometimes.

People that have mental challenges.

I know some cities like Dearborn has it set up better so that when they get a call, they automatically know that so someone to live at that house has um issues.

You know, we we need to be more modernized, we need to try to divert the police being responsible for doing everything because they're the only ones that work 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

So if we could do that, ultimately I think we would save money too.

Uh thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is number ending in 534.

Caller ending in 534.

The floor is yours.

We have one minute general public comment.

I already spoke, thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Council President, we are now going back to Betty A.

Verner, and they will be our last caller.

All right, Miss Betty A.

Verner, the floor is yours.

One minute general public comment.

Ms.

Ronner, are you there going once?

Ms.

Council President, yes, ma'am.

Betty Varner is no longer online.

All right, thank you, Ms.

Verner, for participating, as always.

Mr.

Corley, any uh last words before we wrap up for today.

Discussion.

Oh discussion, uh member Benson.

Uh Mr.

Chair, and I do apologize apologize.

There was a saved round.

The line item.

I was just looking at this.

I confirmed with Mr.

Corley that this was not taken up.

Line item number 217 for GSD, 135,000 for holiday installations.

That parks and recs.

Oh, this is 217.

Yes, sir.

17.

Do you have it down as approved?

As no, sir.

Um, one, but uh, I think the amount that was discussed 135,000.

Yes, yes, sir.

Motion to approve uh one time or one time.

All right, there's a motion for 135,000 dollars one time for uh line item 217.

Any objections?

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

And investment.

Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you, Colleague.

And what that does is it allows about $15,000 per council person to identify for installations throughout the city of Detroit.

All right.

Thank you.

Any further colleagues?

All right, Mr.

Corley.

Thank you.

Have a blessed good Friday tomorrow.

And um have a wonderful Easter.

Get some rest.

I'm gonna try to get some rest now.

Yes.

And uh it's all it's all joyous to do this.

So you all take care.

Did a great job.

Great job.

So have a good evening.

Thank you as well, Mr.

Corley.

And you and your team as well.

Mr.

Whitaker, any closing word?

All right.

Thank you.

All right.

Colleagues, is there a motion to adjourn?

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

This meeting is adjourned.

Yes, it is.