Of our budget proceedings, we are in the throes of our executive session.

Before we begin, we'd like to now get a call of roll.

Madam Clerk, good morning.

Good morning.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Uh Benson and I.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

Councilmember Denzel and Thoma Campbell.

Present.

Councilmember Renata Miller.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Council President Pro Tum called me young the second.

Council President James Tate.

Yep.

Mr.

Chair, you have a quorum present.

Thank you.

We have a quorum present, which means we're now in session.

If we can please note that we've been joined also by Member Johnson as well, and another member Miller had intended on joining us as well via Zoom as we have allowed for last week.

So maybe having some technical difficulties, but maybe joining us soon.

Good morning, Mr.

Corley.

Happy morning.

Good to see you.

Good to see you as well.

Hopefully you got a little chance to you and your team a little chance to rest.

Yes.

Reinvigorate yourself for these last two days of executive session.

Thank you.

I see we have a uh new spreadsheet in front of us.

Uh and I will now turn the floor over to you, sir.

Thank you so much.

Good morning again, um, President Tate, City Council members.

Um we really had a productive uh executive sessions last Thursday and last Wednesday and last Thursday.

Got a lot done, so thank you, City Council.

Great job, really appreciate it.

Um so we're getting down to the home stretch and uh to the point where we can put together uh schedule B.

In fact, Ms.

Short is in the office now starting to put together schedule B.

Um and so uh just kind of quick overview.

Let's go to line C.

Let's go to page 25 line 245.

So line 245, where we ended up after all the council's changes.

So in the uh column in non general fund, we had we are we are at for one time two million twenty fifty thousand column O recurring non-general fund.

Um so I'm assuming that's gonna be street funded.

Um recurring one point three million with respect to the general fund, column Pine Council changes.

We had sixteen million five hundred and seventy-five thousand for recurring when you add um line uh I'm sorry, when you add um counters Q and R that's a total of one million nine hundred and seventy thousand and so council's total changes to general fund about and that's that's um condom U about 18.5 million and when you add um the non-general fund changes about three point five million, you add about twenty-two million altogether, which is again is about one point four percent of the general proposed general fund budget.

Um when you look at page 26, the last page, and go to line 2 56.

Um these are the total funding sources.

We have chosen not to put in in um any funding sources for the non-general funds because we're gonna defer largely to uh Mr.

Johnson and his team on that one.

Um but when it comes to the general fund one time, we are in balance.

Total sources are 16.5 million when it comes to the recurring general fund, we are in balance.

There's sources enough to cover council's changes, and um so that's the overview.

So if we can go back to page one, please.

And uh Mr.

President, we have still 20 penned items.

They're primarily closing resolution.

There may be a couple, a few that's still you know, looking at funding sources or uh council's changes to a particular agency.

So and I do have two outstanding questions after we go through the pen items, and then we can hear from Mr.

Johnson.

Um and then based on um finishing the pin items, my couple of question items here from Mr.

Johnson coming to you know a resolution with everything.

Uh we'll be done.

And we can go back, give you a revised spreadsheet.

It'll be draft four, because what you have before you right now is draft three.

So we'll have a draft four ready for you this afternoon, maybe at two or three o'clock.

I'll let you know, Mr.

President.

So we'll come back together.

Um, you know, one more time in the afternoon to give you like a final spreadsheet.

Um so we can take that back and finish appearing, you know, schedule B, and um start looking at the other schedules before you.

So if we could, Mr.

President, if you agree, we can go to the pen items.

Yes, sir.

Morning.

Thank you.

Madam Clerk, if we can note that we've been joined by Pro Tim Young.

Thank you.

So uh Mr.

Courley, yeah, maybe we'll do like we did last week, and we'll just go from member to member and see if uh we have some unpinnings of closing resolution items or any other items that have a dollar amount attached, and we will start uh on this side of the table this time uh this morning, and we will start with member Benson.

Member Benson, good morning, sir.

Any items you are looking to or able to unpin at this moment.

If you can hit that mic, please.

Good morning, and if you look, I believe I have looking for my pin number under PDD from the front of the line item.

Bear with me one second as I scour this document.

Ms.

President, um council member Benson, maybe page 19.

185.

185.

So line item 185 is a pin in the entire planning department budget.

Remove that pen.

185 planning.

I'm sorry, college there's a request to remove the pen for line item 185.

Any objections?

See none.

The action shall be taken.

Yeah, I have another action item.

I believe it was a scriptner's error, which although is significant because there was no money attached to it, despite the fact there should be money attached to it, and that is line item 64.

And Mr.

President, uh, I apologize.

So for line item 185, Councilman Benson, do you want us to remove this?

I know you said remove the whole item, yes.

Okay, thank you.

Yep.

What item was that uh member Benson?

Uh number six line item 64.

64, colleagues.

Yes, it's approved.

There should be 250,000 attached to this as a movement of funds within the marijuana revenue, which is really just a transfer within the general fund.

So I'm not sure if as an accounting procedure, there's no need to identify funding here.

Okay, and I'm I'm Mr.

Chair, we're going to Mr.

Johnson now.

Uh Madam Clerk, if you can know that we've been joined by Member Callaway as well.

Uh Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Good morning, everyone.

Good morning, good morning.

Um, through you to Councilmember Benson, I would like to have a dollar value in so we know the dollar value of the action that was taken, but this is neutral.

I'm essentially just shifting funds within the general fund.

So in terms of the impact on the general fund budget, it's not an increase, it's just a neutral transaction.

But having the dollar value is helpful, it lets me know what the what the amount that's being shifted is.

If that makes sense.

It makes it makes sense.

And so this is really just it as you said is neutral, but I want to make sure that it's properly accounted for here, so that that shift does take place, though.

Through the chair, I I think putting the 250 in the column.

Yeah, um, I think that's fine.

I think I think that's fine.

My team, we are also working on um sort of we do our draft version of schedule B while LPD does theirs, and then we reconcile, we harmonize them.

So my team's working on that this morning as well as our funding sources, as well as our closing resolution draft.

So all of this will get you know ground up and turned into those products.

It doesn't really matter um how they show in this sheet as you translate them.

And then Mr.

Corley, and then so my recollection was that we approve the dollar amount, so I believe their dollar amount should be on this line, it should not just be a closing resolution, and that's what I want to make sure of.

But it's just our belt and suspenders here.

So I'm going to do I need to remotions.

I believe that this was approved to have the 250 attached here.

I guess we do I need to remotion to place that so motion one time general fund 250,000 dollars and the source being the marijuana revenue.

All right, colleagues.

There's a motion on the floor for line item.

So that's 250,000.

Uh general one-time funding for line item 63.

Any objections?

Say none that action shall be taken.

Noting item 64.

64?

Yes.

Uh-huh.

Apologize, I did the wrong one.

Oh, you absolutely 64.

Uh, noting uh the colleagues, uh that was for line item 64, not 63.

Line item 64.

There was a motion and it was approved.

Any objections?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

Uh noting that uh Mr.

Johnson will also place this item into its administration's closing resolution to ensure that there's continuity with this uh dollar amount.

Mr.

President Corbin, and just to let you know, we'll also reflect the 250,000 on the sources side, the revenue side, to make sure that it's boundless, although it is a neutral transaction, but just to show it you know transparently on our spreadsheet, we're gonna show it as a source as well.

Just to let you know.

Thank you.

Member Vincent, any further, sir?

All right, we'll head over.

We'll pop back over to uh member Callaway.

Member Calvary, what we're doing this morning is uh similar to what we did last week with uh unpinning any items.

So you have any unpin any items that you would like to unpin this morning.

Okay, going through it right now, Mr.

Chair, and I'm looking at line item 71.

I have a pin in it.

I was hoping to be able to remove that pin.

Mr.

Chair, through yourself to Mr.

Corley, how long can we keep the pen in?

Because I'm still trying to figure out if this can even be funded, maybe through the chair to Mr.

Johnson.

Um it's the my share program where the employer agrees to pay a third um for child care for um city workers, the state will pay a third, and the employee will pay a third.

I've been asking for two years to see if we can get any funding for this, like on a pilot basis.

Mr.

Johnson.

Um through you, Mr.

President, to Councilmember Callaway.

Uh so my understanding from the human resources department is that we are still examining what this looks like and how we could possibly implement it here.

Uh, my understanding is that we are not yet to an implementation phase.

There's a little bit, there's some complications, I understand.

So the way that it might work for us.

So my instinct on this would be closing resolution with the expectation that um by fiscal year 28 discussions, we're really closer to a resolution on this um item.

I can go back and talk to the human resources um team, but that's my understanding of the matter is that we are not ready to move, we would not be ready to move forward with this um soon.

Okay, all right, thank you.

So um uh Mr.

Chair, I um make a motion to remove the pen on line item 71 and keep it in the closing resolution.

All right, thank you.

So we already have the closing resolution language approved, colleagues, for line item 71, but there is a request to remove the pen for a dollar amount.

Any objections?

Seeing none, we should remove the pen.

Member Callaway.

Okay, and then I'm looking at another pen that is line item 78.

This is for um with um, I guess this I would defer to I guess member waters when it's her term because I just see that I joined her on it, so that's not mine.

Um I don't know if I have any other pins.

Mr.

Corley, do you know if I have any other pens?

So I don't have to go through all these sheets.

I'm not seeing any more.

Uh would it be maybe maybe better to just start from page one?

I I I have identified where it sure finds a pen, and that way we can just uh maybe tag it that way.

Yes, sir.

Okay, that's wonderful.

There's a lot of folks first time seeing this document, and it's yeah, trying to shift it a bit, so that works.

Okay, that's that's great.

So if you go to page one, line six, that's still pinned.

That's the airport.

Um international airport signage.

Um council member waters, member waters.

Line item six.

Line item six.

Yes, ma'am.

This is the uh signage for the Coleman A.

Young International Airport.

Oh we placed into uh closing resolution already.

It has been approved, but it is still pinned.

Oh, okay.

Well then um motion to um unpin it.

Okay.

There's a motion uh there was a request from the from member waters to remove the pen for any financial uh allocation for line item six, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

Okay, Mr.

President.

The next pinned item would be page three, um line thirty one DPW.

Increase the budget by 200,000 funding for a truck traffic study for district seven with the added trucking activity at the former AMC site.

Uh council approved 200,000 dollars one time for this.

Um but it's still pinned.

So we'll have to close the resolution.

Great to see if uh council member McCampill has any anything further.

All right, member McCampbell, anything we want to add to line item 31.

Uh the dollar amount has already been approved of 200,000 one-time general fund for that particular item, line item 31.

Thank you, uh Mr.

Chair.

So actually, um, with what we heard from Member Johnson um around uh truck studies and uh conversation with DPW, we can actually I would we can actually remove the 200,000.

Um, but I still want to keep it pin because I uh the actual language because I just have to have one more conversation around this for possible closing resolution, but uh it appears that the dollar amount is not needed.

Okay, colleagues a motion to remove the 200,000 dollar general fund one-time allocation to line item 31.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Point of information.

Um member Benson.

Could we approve this for closing resolution and then member McCamill just work with LPD to finalize that language?

That was going to be my recommendation, sir.

Member McCampbell.

That's fine.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

There's a motion to add line language to line item 31 for closing resolution, colleagues with discussion.

With discussion, member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um so we did include the AMC site within the closing resolution language that we have prepared.

Um just based on previous conversations at the table.

We also included Amazon as well.

Um, and so according to my conversation with Director Brundage, there was no additional funding needed by the department for them to do the truck traffic study.

So the line, so it sounds like the language uh in the uh surrounding AMC site, which is in line item 31 will be found in your closing resolution that well the bodies closing resolution that you prepared for this particular truck traffic setting.

All right, so that I think it's more appropriate to remove it at this point then uh member McCampbell.

Yes, thank you, Mr.

Chair, thank you, Member Johnson, and then yes, sir.

Um31.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion to remove line item 31 from the spreadsheet.

Any objections seeing none that action shall be taken, Mr.

Corner.

Okay.

Uh next pin's item let's see.

Let's go to page four line 47 OCFO.

Um discussion on the remaining outstanding unspent opera funds.

Uh list is to be provided.

Consul member waters.

All right, member waters has been asking for that document.

Member Waters, did you get the document?

The unspent operators.

Oh, thank you, Mr.

President.

Well, actually, I did, and I just sent it to the printer for several copies so that I can share it with you all.

So if I could just have it remain pinned until it comes okay the documents come here.

There's a request to uh keep line item 47 remained pinned.

Um Mr.

Johnson.

Uh Mr.

President, is this an item that we think we would want to have a more robust conversation about with the ARBA funding?

If so, I would ask that we do that perhaps in the afternoon session so that I can see if um Ms.

Terry Daniels is available to come up and join us.

She's a lot more fluent in the in the state of ARPA.

Um so if that's the case, you know, if if that's okay with everyone, sure.

Sure with me.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Again, an item shall remain pinned at this moment.

Mr.

Corner.

Okay.

Let's go to page six.

Healthy permit.

Include mineral behavioral health services at recreation centers and other areas in the city of Detroit.

Um President Tate and Mayor McCampill.

Um Mr.

Corley Willow, I'm sorry, I was looking at a memo that was just dropped.

Uh, yeah, I'm sorry, uh, line 59.

Healthy department.

That's still a pin.

Oh, um, we have actually place this in the closing resolution.

So I'm not sure why that one doesn't exist uh currently, but uh I'll remotion uh or request the motion for closing resolution language for line item 59.

Motion.

Thank you.

There's a motion on the floor.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Uh and we can uh remove the pen.

Great.

Um okay, line 62, healthy parent.

Conduct health studies for greater understanding and determine if additional financial support is needed.

Councilmember uh Johnson and Councilmember Santiago Romero.

Item 62, Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

This item has already been moved.

Oh, it has not.

Um motion to add this to the closing resolution, and we can remove the PIN.

For line item 62, colleagues, there's a request for uh closing resolution language for line item 62.

Any objections?

See none, and action shall be taken.

Uh colleagues, we can also note that there's a request to remove the pen for line item 62.

No further um financial allotment to be added.

Mr.

Corley.

Hey, great, Mr.

President.

Okay, let's go to page eight.

Line 78.

Creole.

Um question, so this was the entire budget.

Council approved a $500,000 one-time allocation.

Um question for us and LPD is this really a maybe a mayor's office item.

Um we do have down here too pinned for funding amount.

So I guess we did not.

So it looks like council approved the closing resolution, but not the funding amount.

So if if we can if council can take a vote on the funding amount, the one time, and then we can briefly talk about should this remain in Creole or go to mayor's office.

So Mr.

President, um funding amount, $500,000, Office of Veteran Affairs.

Council Member Waters.

Thank you.

Colleagues, uh line item 78 does have a $500,000 allocation general one time, uh member waters.

All right, thank you.

Um for the record, it only has um a one time because that was the best approach.

I do expect to come back next year um for funding.

Um motion to uh to approve.

There's a motion to approve $500,000 one-time general fund uh allotment to line item 78, colleagues.

Any objections seeing none, then action shall be taken.

Mr.

Johnson.

Uh Mr.

President, um, so with this item, because a lot of the functions that are going to be done here are with staff.

Um it I don't know that one-time funding is is the right call.

So I think the compromise we're willing to offer is there is a manager for veteran affairs, the veteran affairs coordinator in CREO.

Um I think the proposal at this point would be to transfer that person from CREO to the Office of Senior Affairs and rename the Office of Senior Affairs to the Office of Senior and Veteran Affairs, and expand the portfolio of the senior affairs office to cover both, since we know that the vast majority of the veterans who require assistance in the city of Detroit at this point, the largest demographic users of um enhanced services are seniors as well.

So there's a very strong overlap between the senior affairs group and the veteran affairs group.

Um it's not exclusive.

The Venn diagram is definitely a Venn diagram, but um it is pretty heavy in Detroit based on the demographics of our veteran population in the city.

So that would be the proposal to expand the remit of the Office of Senior Affairs and transfer the veteran affairs coordinator to be part of that office and to work with Member Waters' office and other members and the veterans task force to come up with a plan for the future of expansion or what services might be added in the future to the Office of Senior and Veteran Veteran Affairs.

Okay.

Discussion.

With further discussion, Member Waters and Mr.

Whitaker.

So I I am you know there's more than just a coordinator in the Office of Veterans Affairs.

In fact, there are other a couple of other um staffers, staff members, uh, that were hired as well.

So it's not just that one person, just so you know.

So I'm I'm uncomfortable with it right now because then it it sounds like we're going to put some other people out of a job, but you're just talking about transferring the the one coordinator.

I think you I think you should check it out and see how many staff members are there first before you make that suggestion.

Because they they are there is more than one.

Before we go to Mr.

Whitaker, Mr.

Johnson.

Ms.

Mr.

Johnson, we'll go to you first.

Oh, um you had something you want to do to reply.

Uh yeah, thank you.

Um through you to Councilmember Waters.

Um, yes, we have checked um the personnel compliment for CRIO, and the only person who is currently full-time working on veterans' affairs is this manager of veterans' affairs.

Um the rest of CREO staff are deployed on a number of other functions, so no one would be no one's job is in jeopardy with this action.

Um, and uh, you know, I I think right now the the current distribution of labor really is this person handling the vast majority of our work in this regard.

Oh yeah.

So what happens to those other couple people that are currently employed and they fall under that coordinator, what happens to them?

Because I literally ran into one of them in the hallway, and they were so grateful as a veteran uh for the opportunity to be working.

And and I I just don't want that to be tossed aside because last year I did fund the uh the veterans affairs department with a couple more uh positions, and um so it sounds like you're only willing to really look out for the coordinator, and then nobody's telling me what's gonna happen to those other couple of employees, Mr.

Johnson.

Uh Mr.

President, uh three veterans through you to member waters.

Um I will let's let's I'll take this back.

I'll have a conversation with CRIO again.

If there are other staff members working on this, then my expectation is that they would follow the coordinator.

They would continue to work on veterans' affairs.

Well, then I'm gonna pin it.

I need you to find out for sure, and I need to talk with them because I I want to make sure that these veterans are gonna be okay.

With further discussion, just noting that the $500,000 one-time general fund has been approved by uh this body uh it has not been pushed back by the administration, it's just now a matter of what this all that looked like.

Uh further discussion, Member Benson.

Right, thank you.

Um I I I appreciate that there is a overlap with our senior population and our veterans population age-wise, but the definition of a veteran is somebody who served in the United States military continuously for six months.

So there are a number who are not seniors and they have a very specific and nuanced need.

I'd rather see them stay um this is to my colleague.

I would support them staying within CREO under the Office of Veterans Affairs, um, and then adding two staff members to that compliment just to make it more robust.

That's not a $500,000 annual cost, but it would become an annual cost, although it will be less than $500,000.

I would suggest that as a uh as a compromise.

Okay.

So there's a request to uh keep this item pinned to allow for discussions to uh continue, colleagues.

Uh that is for line item 78.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

Next penned item.

Oh, I'm sorry, Mr.

Whitaker, yes, sir.

I was just going to indicate if there is a uh uh an attempt to move the veterans' affairs to seniors and a merger seems like it would require uh an adjustment to the EOP.

Uh through you, Mr.

President to Mr.

Whitaker.

Um that is not our understanding, so offices are not departments, they're simply programmatic areas established by the mayor, but I'd have to go back and talk to the law department.

Um that's I mean, obviously not my area of expertise.

So I'll go back and talk to the law department about that as well.

Okay, and that will be part of the unpinning discussion.

Particular item.

Right.

Thank you so much.

Mr.

Courtley.

Okay.

Uh let's go to page 11.

Line 108.

Um, board of police commissioners to receive fair conversation in stipend form.

Um so that was still pinned.

Um, and that would be council member McCampbell.

Member McCampbell, line item 108, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I am this is another dime just went on one last conversation.

I should be able to, uh we'll be able to take action on it when we come back in the afternoon.

Um, I don't it will either be to remove or for closing resolution, no funding.

So um, if we can just keep this pinned for just a couple of more hours.

All right.

Colleagues, it's a request to keep line item 108 and at this moment, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, let's go to page 12.

First line, um line 111.

Um see, council member off council member waters office to send an assignment memo to LPD to determine how the nuisance abatement program was created and who gave the L D uh so um that's that was still pinned.

I guess um we can hear from yeah, member waters.

Member Waters, is this item uh design for the budget or is this outside of the budget process just what item is it again?

Line item one eleven, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am.

It it was um that was uh an LPD assignment.

It wasn't it was not a budget item.

Okay, so there was an uh for clarification, Mr.

Corley line item 111.

The intent was for it to be a motion for an assignment, not for the um spreadsheet.

Okay, uh Mr.

Whitaker, just for the record, we have provided that response.

Okay, and what is there a motion to remove this item?

Okay, there's a motion to remove uh line item 111 from the spreadsheet, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay, the next line item um 112.

Um land bank authority, request the administration to create a five-year plan projecting the future property and land sales uh from a financial perspective that are currently in the inventory held by the land bank HRD and PDD.

Councilmember Johnson, that was still pinned.

Member Johnson, line item 112.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

We can remove the pin, um, noting that it has already been moved to closing resolution.

All right, colleagues.

There's a request for uh the pen on line item 112 to be removed.

No objections, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, we can go to page 13 line 124, uh Eastern Market.

Council did approve 500,000 for the Black Bottom Archives Development Project.

Um, but it'll still pin Councilmember Miller.

I don't know if she's joined us or so uh I also it was one of the items that got my attention.

We have a uh memo sent by uh member Miller indicating that she would not be present for the executive sessions for the morning uh morning executive session.

So she's not available.

So uh we should let's continue to keep this one pinned uh in anticipation of her joining us in the PM session.

Great.

Okay, let's go to page 14.

Um thirty-five.

This is media services, the entire budget.

Um council president Tate.

Yes, sir.

Um want to have a conversation about this particular item still.

I'm gonna be looking to put uh potentially 225,000 dollars in this particular item.

Um this is based upon the request for uh CPC uh as well as uh city council board of uh police commissioners and others in trying to get their uh meetings uh recorded, and it has just been an extreme challenge.

Just last week my staff had to leave this meeting and go and set up you know uh the owl, if you will, over in the auditorium, and it's just not conducive to um efficiency.

Um we're just looking to get some additional funding.

So want to have a conversation with you offline, um, Mr.

Johnson, so we're gonna keep this item pinned um to see how we address this, but just telegraphing 225,000 coming your way for our conversation.

We'll keep that item pinned, Mr.

Corley.

Discussion with further discussion, Member Benson.

We want to put that as a placeholder number now.

Um, yeah, I have it.

I I have it right now.

So we we're just gonna be coming back in the PM.

So we'll have the conversation.

I appreciate you.

Thank you.

Okay, Mr.

President.

Next um pin item is line 138.

Um council approved the 2.5 million infrastructure improvements.

Um I believe I'm so sorry.

Uh I think council approved this one.

And um, this is for infrastructure improvements in the Boston Edison area.

Um waters, I can't recall why this is still pinned, but hopefully you can help me out.

It was still pinning because we I was gonna have a conversation with the CFO's office so that we can adequately explain to this community organization what they might be able to do in the future if we're talking lending of credit here.

I did not want to un to unpin it until we show them the respect that they deserve by responding to them in some manner.

So we need to come up with an agreement.

How are we going to um explain things to them?

Uh somebody needs to make sure that a memo is sent to them, tell them how they can apply for things in the future if we cannot assist them in this budget.

You want to keep it further pin?

Yes, member member Watterson.

There's a request to keep line item 138 pinned, but there is discussion.

Member Callaway.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair, and Member Waters um and um pro Tim, I'd like to join you on line item 138.

138.

I can be at it.

If you can note 130.

With discussion, uh further discussion, Member Benson.

And what's the name of the group?

Waters is not me.

This is this is the uh Boston Edison community organization.

Okay, historic Boston Edison, I should say.

Oh, you said you would approach it.

Okay, Mr.

Corley.

Um so Mr.

Corley, I do want to take Member Benson up on uh his suggestion, and we'll place uh one-time uh can I if I can get a motion, colleagues, for one-time uh general fund for 225,000 dollars uh for line item 135.

Thank you again, Member Benson.

Discussion with discussion.

Is there a motion first?

Motion with discussion with discussion, Member Benson.

Just the uh reason for the one time versus a reoccurring on that one.

Uh just so we can have further conversation, sir.

Okay.

Yeah, hopefully it'll be built into the budget moving forward.

Um, but we just still need to nail down that 225 and maybe 250, uh, maybe more, but just wanted to general one time at this moment.

Discussion with further discussion, pro Tim Young.

Yeah, uh we haven't discussed about uh media service budget that includes like surge artificial intelligence um apps and things that nature for presentations and as such.

It has not at this point, sir.

Okay, could it potentially in the future?

I would really appreciate if it could certainly in the future, absolutely.

Thank you.

Congress is a motion uh for 225 allocation one-time funding for line item 135.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken, noting that we shall keep line item 135 pinned uh for the uh PM session.

Mr.

Corley, it's president.

The next one would be page 15 line 148, HRD.

Umcreased budget for two million dollar yep funding to the fellowship chapel housing project.

Um I guess our questions were is this general fund eligible?

Is there a possibility for using ARPA dollars?

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair, thank you, Mr.

Corley and Mr.

Johnson.

Um I looked at a sheet.

I don't know if this is um we just received the sheet, but I was looking at ARPA dollars that had already been um earmarked for projects, and um some of those projects, I don't even know if they're gonna be completed.

I won't say they're here in the microphone, but um they're privately they're being privately developed and they received ARPA dollars.

And this is through a nonprofit, one of our major um churches um in our city.

And they're using their nonprofit status, so it's not private, but we have awarded ARPA dollars through the chair to you, Mr.

Corley and Mr.

Johnson to private developers, taxpayer dollars.

So if we have not used them all, I'm gonna go ahead and keep this pin because if I can talk to um through the chair to Mr.

Johnson to you, uh Mr.

Johnson, maybe later today to see if there are any other resources, because we seem to be able to come up with resources to help private nonprof um developers for profit with taxpayer dollars.

So I'm just trying to figure out why can't we see what we can do to support this nonprofit.

So um I'm gonna keep it pinned and have a conversation with Mr.

Johnson later this afternoon if if he has time.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

There's a request to keep line item 148 further pinned uh with uh additional discussion, member waters.

I'd like to join Member Calloway on that one and the same fight.

Mr.

Corley, if you can note, please.

Okay.

Mr.

President, if I uh Mr.

Johnson.

If I might just to add a little clarification here.

So um we so for purposes of you know um uh general fund use eligibility, a nonprofit versus a for-profit is there that is the the distinction is is irrelevant is whether it is a government body or non-government body.

Um, and so um a nonprofit, while possible probably very worthy, still qualifies as a private entity under the under the use test required by the state constitution.

Um the development projects that the city is undertaken have all been utilizing funds that were either federal funding or um non-general fund funding that was allocated for the purpose.

So I just want to make sure that's very clear.

We've we've not been using general fund dollars with private developers for private development.

We've always used non-general fund eligible, you know, dollars for which this is an eligible purpose.

So I just I want to make sure that's very clear um for everyone, including the public.

We can discuss this afternoon on options with further discussion.

Thank you.

Um thank you, uh Mr.

Chair, and Mr.

Johnson, I was never ever um thinking about using general funds.

My how I um started my statement and inquiry was saying ARPA dollars.

I said that.

I never said general fund dollars.

I know um I know that we couldn't do that, but we have used ARPA dollars, and I think I said that, so thank you for your clarification.

But I wanted to be clear as well that I was just um mentioning ARPA dollars, the use of uh set dollars for a nonprofit to continue their development, the way that we've used the same ARPA dollars, which are federal dollars, um, to support private um for-profit developers.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Again, noting that that item has uh remained pinned with further discussion is as needed, member Pro Tim Young.

Thank you, Mr.

President, Mr.

Chair, through you to Mr.

Johnson.

I just want to ask you, does that include Chota's as well?

Chotos, community development housing organizations, Mr.

Johnson.

Uh through you, Mr.

President, to um President Pro Tim Young.

Uh yes, community housing development organizations are eligible recipients of certain HUD funds in various ways.

So they are um yes, so sometimes they are um partners that we work with via our HUD fund using our HUD funding.

Oh, so I just want me to just this this is just hypothetical.

I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, even though everybody knows if I believe you do it, I tell you you'd be better off.

But if let's say hypothetically, uh fellowship travel aside or created a CHODO.

Would they then be eligible for money from the general fund if we were to try to appropriate it to that organization?

Through the chair to President Pro Tim Young, I am not competent to answer that question.

Um that's outside my knowledge set as it goes for um housing development eligibility and HUD.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Mr.

Corley.

Okay.

Um next pinned item.

Page 16, bottom of page 16, line 162.

That's the Trade Economic Growth Corporation.

Um discussion about creating a construction mitigation emergency fund for businesses.

Um or other utilities that's being installed.

Um then we have in here um also consideration for a zero percent loan program.

Um so this is still on pinned, council president Tate.

So I'm I'm trying to figure out why this is this one is still pinned.

I know we put the 500,000 and that was approved.

Um we also approved the uh resolution language as well.

So I have no additional uh movement on that particular item noted in the closing resolution and the dollar amount that's been approved.

So we can unpin this item.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay, the next one would be page 17.

Um the first line uh 163, DGC again.

Um the clock.

Small business support, particularly in the area of coaching, technical assistance, um, leadership development.

Uh there was a question about could this be OPRA funded?

There's no dollar amount.

The closing resolution was approved, but still pinned.

So council member waters.

Member Waters, line item 163.

I'll be there.

Yeah, I mean this could be uh could be funded with operat dollars, I believe.

Mr.

President.

So when we have the conversation this afternoon, can we include this one?

Okay, thank you.

This item shall remain pinned for any uh uh financial allotment, noting that it has already been approved for closing resolution, Mr.

Corner.

Okay, we can go to page 20.

That's line 194.

Uh the general services department, GSD.

Discussion about a mosquito abatement program around Rouge River.

Um Council President Tate.

Thank you, sir.

We are now able to unpin this item.

Got a 100,000 dollar amount from the administration on this one time uh general fund.

Colleagues, is there a motion?

Motion thank you so much.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

All right.

Uh okay, let's go to page 24.

Line 237.

Um, this is Nurses District Court.

Council did approve approved a $500,000 allocation for the specialty court, but it was still pinned.

Council member Johnson.

Mr.

Corley, what number is that again?

I'm sorry.

Um 237.

237.

Line and item 9 and 237, member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

If we can keep this pinned until this afternoon, um Chief Judge McConaco is pulling together an emergency meeting to have a discussion.

Um, I have reached out to state legislators as well to see if they can provide some additional funding support.

So if we can pin this until this afternoon, okay, thank you.

All right.

There's a request to keep line item 237 further pinned, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, thank you.

Um line 240 at the bottom of page 24.

City clerk.

Um city clerk's budget was uh penned.

Um in the name of the council, uh mayor president take you help out with this one.

So I know that the clerk uh did not request any additional funding.

So colleagues, can we is there a motion to remove line item 240?

There's a motion to remove line item 240 from the spreadsheet.

Any objections see none that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Corner.

Okay, that's all the pin items.

And uh I had two questions.

Let's see, line 200.

Let's see here.

Line 200.

Line 200, page 20.

Curry.

Okay.

Okay, so line 200.

Um GSD.

So the funding amount, when you go to line 199, the funding amount for the forestry department that went from 4 million down to 1 million.

At the 4 million dollar level, there was discussion about 24 FTEs.

Well, since the funding amount has been reduced to 1 million, we were just wondering is the FTE amount, you know, still the same, or should it reduce since the funding has reduced?

So I don't know if Councilmember Benson has any thoughts on that, Mr.

President.

Member Benson.

What were what's the line item on this one, Mr.

Corley?

So really president.

So we councilman Benson really focused on line 199 and 200 on page 20.

And um first discussion was 24 FTEs, and that was at the four million dollar level.

And so we're going down to one million.

Do we look to reduce the FTE discussion?

Discussion and thank you, uh Mr.

Corley.

And so the 24 was a suggestion when it was it was at 4 million dollars.

That would get us to a moderate level of forestry services.

I still urge the administration to increase those FTEs in that space.

And this was a concern that I also received from colleagues when it came to expanding and improving uh the forestry department, expand and improve the forestry department internally or do externally, and I suggest that we do it internally and we utilize uh any funding for FTEs versus contracts.

So that those numbers you're right, they do they no longer tie, but I'm still gonna urge the administration to increase the number of FTs, and then maybe we just change the number to strongly encourage them to utilize any funding sources to bring services in-house and to increase the number of FTEs.

That makes sense.

Yeah, yeah, yes, Mr.

President.

We can we can now include that in the closing resolution.

That sounds sufficient.

Yeah, so do we stay with the 24?

Do we change the number?

Ms.

President, so you know we can just um generally indicate uh increase in uh urgent administration to increase the number of FTEs and with the hope that we can bring these services in-house, something like that.

That's perfect resolution.

Okay, okay, okay.

So then remove the number 24 then in that yeah, uh spreadsheet.

Okay.

Colleagues, there's a motion to remove the uh number of 24 and the uh column W for line item 200.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Uh noting that the closing resolution language will also be amended as well.

Uh member Benson.

No need for discussion.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay, Ms.

President, I had a just had one more question.

That's line 224.

Let's see here.

Okay.

Okay, this was um department water source department.

Um it was decided that the 2050,000 skilled trades program would be provided by DWSD.

So that was approved.

We just want to know will the DWSD commitment would be for fiscal for the current fiscal year 2026, or will that commitment um go into the next fiscal year 2027?

And um, I don't know if Mr.

President, Mr.

Johnson might have some information on this.

We just want to be sure about the commitment.

Mr.

Johnson, uh again, this is line on the 224, correct?

Yes.

All right, Mr.

Johnson.

Uh, through you, Mr.

Chair, to Mr.

Corley, um, and um council member waters, who was the sponsor of this item.

Yeah, uh, the water and sewerage department, I imagine they'll probably get started on the process in the current fiscal year, but I think it's primarily an FY27 um allocation.

Um, I think we could probably credibly just call it an FY27 commitment on paper.

So is there a dollar amount that we need to apply to the spreadsheet?

Because right now it's empty.

I think Mr.

President, the understanding was that uh D WSD would cover this, you know, with their funding, so that's why there's no funding amount in the columns.

Okay.

And the columns.

So this could be a closing resolution item if if you agree.

Council could put this in closing resolution in the waters.

224.

Yes, ma'am.

Closing resolution language uh recommended.

Um thank you, Mr.

President.

Yeah, this was um, yeah, we approved this, you know.

But it yeah, the closing resolution is gonna, and the reason that it's going into close and resolution is because DWSD said that they could encumber the um the monies.

All right, colleagues, there is a request.

There's a motion for closing resolution language uh for line item 224 uh with discussion uh pro timio yes I also had some language, uh I think it was a little over 71,000 dollars involving skill trades to be taught Randolph that's supposed to be rolled into this program.

Is that affected by moving this into closing resolution or will all that approved and go to where it's supposed to go plus the closing resolution?

Ms.

President, I think that's I think that's separate.

I think council can take an action on on this closing resolution item, and we'll make sure that yours is covered.

I think it's covered in another line item.

Okay, mistake.

So it's so it's not gonna be affected at all.

So so the money that's appropriated will go to where it's going.

This is just a closing resolution on top of that already being done, right?

Okay.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for closing resolution language approval for line item 224.

Any objections?

So Mr.

President.

Um with further discussion, Member Waters.

We should have submitted that information for closing resolution over the weekend.

Does LPD know if you received it?

Um Mr.

President, yes, sir.

And it would see received quite a bit of information, language from all of the council members who are sort of putting it together now.

I can't really say that this language is present because I haven't reviewed it yet.

Okay, but we'll make sure that is in it to the best that we can get the language to you sometime later this afternoon.

All right, thank you.

Okay.

Again, colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for language approval.

Closing resolution language approval for line item 224.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken, Mr.

Corley.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

President.

Those were the two outstanding questions that I had.

So can we now, if there's any motions that colleagues would like to add, uh do that at this moment?

Are there any motions on the floor?

I have one that I would like to add as we in the spirit of line item 234.

Um having conversations with city council administration, uh, and indicated that there's a increase in uh costs uh for everything for uh travel, uh as we talk about the retreat as well, uh cost of living, and as you know, city council administration is not just uh, and this is not to demean by any mean, not just the folks we see down the hall, uh, but also uh legislative policy divisions, uh CPC as well.

And so there is a require I'm gonna motion request for a motion for 300,000 dollars for city council administration.

Motion discussion.

There's a motion on the floor, colleagues with discussion, member Benson.

Yeah, 300,000 on is on top of the two thirty is on top of line 234.

Um I thought 234 were two offices.

Yes, that's what yes, this is separate from from offices.

This is administration, sir.

Sorry.

Okay.

More further discussion with further discussion, Member Benson.

Is that amount sufficient?

Um, from what we've gathered, that is correct.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Ms.

President, that's recurring.

Uh reoccurring, yes, sir.

And Mr.

President, is that split between council administration and legislative policy or yes, sir.

Equally or uh they're separate entities in the budget.

Uh so let's put that right.

Let's right now we'll clarify um for the PM.

We'll clarify for the PM.

But as of right now, city council will put it all into one big uh motion, colleagues.

Any objection?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Okay.

Any further motions, colleagues?

Before we go to the break.

Member Johnson, followed by Member Waters.

Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Line item 28 speaks to a streetscape study.

I'd like to amend the language to traffic calling.

And add 250,000.

Discussion.

So Member Johnson, is that uh 250 one time or one time.

Recurring.

There's a motion on the floor, colleagues, for 250,000 dollars to be allocated to line item 28 with discussion, Member Benson.

So I was looking for the line item on that one.

Thank you.

All right.

Any further discussion, colleagues?

Any objections?

Further discussion.

With further discussion, Member Benson.

That was a one-time.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

General funders refund.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Whatever is available.

This is really for um moving a stoplight to an area where there are a number of car accidents.

Street fund.

Street fund.

Yes, street fund.

Yeah.

Should be street fund.

That being that 10 column.

All right.

So that would be uh 250,000 uh one-time street fund, colleagues.

Uh that would be uh column O.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Member Walter.

Well, Member Johnson, any further?

Floor remains yours.

Member Waters.

101.

I you guys always catch me when I'm trying to respond to some folks of this other stuff.

Well, oh, that's right.

Like 101.

I just wanted to correct the name there, Mr.

President.

Yes, ma'am.

Uh it should be uh Waters and Callaway and not uh Member Johnson.

Member Johnson pointed that out.

Okay.

Mr.

Corley, if you can note that the member seeking to join uh member waters on line item 101 is member Callaway.

Okay, striking Member Johnson's name.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And waters.

Yeah, I want to have a conversation about trying to find the line item number, but it's related to general service retirees, the one that we already approved.

Mr.

President, I think that's page two line 18.

Line two, page 18.

So I um Mr.

President Mayor.

Member Waters, yes, ma'am.

For a minute.

I I am not uh happy about this conversation at all.

Um I continue to to receive feedback.

You see, when you when I first brought this up, it should have been mentioned during that time, and it was not.

Um that we should be following certain certain certain guidelines.

It says Member Waters um the administration will be required to come before city council to get authorization to amend the plan of adjustments to allow for a 13th prorated check in fiscal year 2627 to the city's legacy retirees.

Why didn't I know this before?

See, this is the kind of thing that really bothers me.

I I should have known this before, and the fact that DFAA and and whomever are in negotiation and they might be upset about it.

I don't know why they would be.

So fact I want the uh uh OCFO herself to come on and explain this so that those general uh service retirees can understand because see now it looks very bad for me to have to retract this.

I don't like it one bit.

I have a question, Mr.

Corley.

President, so I mean, in the same vein, does that mean that the 10 million that's proposed by Mayor Sheffield?

Has that been approved by the bankruptcy court?

President Ms.

Stademeyer and Mr.

Naglett because he's more closely you know involved with with this type of thing so we should hear about the 10 million that you know mayor sheffield has has on the table as well as council's proposal to add to that okay Mr Washington if you are watching listening if you can note that we would like to be joined by Mr Naglik as well as a CFO for the uh PM uh executive session discussions and Mr Johnson if you can also take that back in case Mr.

Washington is not listening thank you we'll for so for line item uh 18 I know we approved it but we'll pin it at this moment for that discussion in the PM Mr.

Corley so um we're at a point where we could hear from Mr.

Johnson if you wish to do that you know I think he suggested that he probably would have some um suggestions about the sources items I'm comfortable personally with the sources items as I passionately mentioned last Thursday um I'm not gonna go through that passion speaking speech again we love it though oh boy uh it's all good though I love this job I'm telling you this I love it um so you know I'm fine with what we have but um you know if if the administration uh has some other ideas I guess I would just I guess I would say if they have other ideas that's fine but I would like the funding source to be the same amount I know some of these changes I know some of the amounts have changed so we got to take that consideration but um if they have other you know alternative suggestions I wish that it will not reduce council's ability to do what what what it wants to do.

So you might want to hear from Mr.

Johnson Sir thank you and we went through painstaking you know um uh movements last week to reduce the number that we had uh for this purpose to get to this point so Mr.

Johnson thank you Mr.

President um so the proposed funding sources from the administration will be all that is necessary to accommodate all of the items that we have negotiated between the administration and the council so um as we reach those numbers as we settle on those numbers we will make sure that they are matched up with appropriate um funding sources the bigger challenge on this uh for for our team is really the recurring side of things we have to go through and um you know make some difficult decisions about where we're going to pull those funds from my team is working on that right now so my expectation is this afternoon in the afternoon session probably toward the latter half of the afternoon session knowing we have a number of pretty meaty discussion items that I think we'll probably want to tackle up front um as we get to the end and we're kind of doing administrative let's call it administrative matters I would put funding sources in in that discussion um I will be prepared to really get in the mix on that um and have some proposed funding sources but you know if if the change is a is a recurring ad to the general fund I'll you know be prepared to indicate where likely that is coming from in the general fund recurring budget and you know that sort of stuff so we're working on that right now teams grinding away um and we'll be able to discuss that later this afternoon all right Mr Cortland thank you Mr.

Johnson so we'll come back um if you agree Mr.

President at two o'clock and uh hopefully by two o'clock a lot of this you know outstanding items could be resolved um and this could be a long day you know but it would be worth it if we're able to you know fine alliance all of the outstanding issues we'll prepare a draft for you know for council to reflect all those outstanding you know resolutions so you can see it and then um we'd be good to go okay yeah we like how that sounds like the direction we're going in a lot of work was done last week mr uh mr woodick I know that you indicated we you received a lot of language over the weekend um talk to us about what's still we're still needed and it's outstanding if you will please well uh Mr.

The language needs to speak with one voice, so there's some attempt to try to uh synthesize the information down to a single document that is happening right now, and as soon as we get a draft, we'll bring it up for your review.

Okay.

And that's just with the language that has been provided thus far.

I know the members are still in the process of submitting language.

Right.

As it comes in, we'll do the same to any new language and try to get a complete document to you as soon as we're able.

Okay.

Noting that we are going to be reset uh recessing until 2 p.m.

Colleagues, if you do have outstanding language, just asking if you can uh please do your best to get that language to LPD by two o'clock, which will allow us to move this process even more expeditiously uh than we have then thus far.

Everyone's doing a great job.

Uh pro Tim Young.

Uh I just want to say that uh lunch will be served.

Uh we will be having crispy crunchy chicken.

Uh I tried to get um Chinese food to support uh Chinatown stay on my uh colleague Garrett Santiago Romero, but uh the logistics didn't work.

So uh we will be having it soon.

So uh be prepared and be prepared to be wild.

All right, thank you.

Any further colleagues before we go to public comment?

If before we do that, if there's anyone from the public who would like to speak, please raise your hand now.

I see one hand in the committee of the whole if you're at home.

I see two hands in the committee of the whole going once.

I see three hands in the committee of the whole going once, going twice, going three times.

The collection of public comments have now concluded, both online and in person.

We can have the individuals come forward, please.

Oh, both colleagues.

Any additional comments before we go to public comment?

Discussion.

Um member Benson.

Uh motion to add one FTE to the Office of Sustainability.

All right.

There is a motion to add one FTE to the Office of Sustainability, colleagues.

Any objection?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

President, uh, is there is there um a funding amount for that one FTE or Member Benson?

130,000.

Although I think this part will be less than that.

Can that be recurring?

That will be recurring.

Okay.

130,000 reoccurring for the spreadsheet.

Uh, with further discussion, pro Tim Young.

Mr.

Johnson, how burning to know.

Uh, do you have any thoughts on that exactly?

And what does that put us to the budget?

From your perspective, excuse me.

Uh through the chair to um President Pro Tim Young.

Uh I I'm not thrilled, um, only in that it's recurring funding and recurring funding is increased is difficult.

And I think at this point we're well over two million dollars in recurring changes to the budget.

So this is going to pose a challenge uh for the OCFO.

But um, we will I will take this back and have a conversation with my team.

Challenge, but not impossible, right?

Nothing is impossible if you try hard.

All right, excellent.

And um thank you.

Um, I uh we could address the uh veterans affairs at this point.

If you're willing to add two F two uh FTEs that will go uh with the current director of uh a veterans' affairs that would be recurring.

Uh Mr.

Johnson.

Uh through the chair to Councilmember Waters.

So we're essentially talking about a transfer of staff from CREO to Veterans Affairs, or we're talking about leaving that in CRIO.

Okay, what we're talking about is the fact that there were they should already have had two FTEs anyway.

Two, but something happened, it didn't get posted last week.

Whenever it's supposed to be posted.

Um so it is currently the the director and one FTE that is that is there.

So what we are asking is for the director and two additional FTEs.

All right, what item is that line item.

Oh, I just lost it again.

Let me see.

Um through the chair, so we're really talking about adding one FTE so that we get to a total of hold on one second, Mr.

Johnson.

We just want to get everyone caught up to speed on the line item, please.

It's um that's not it.

I sat here a lot.

I think it's nine seventy-eight.

Yes.

That's the entire budget of the Office of Veterans Affairs member waters.

Mr.

Johnson.

Uh thank you, Mr.

President.

So um my understanding is if there is the veteran affairs director and one current staff member, we're talking about adding an additional staff member so that we have two support staff, one director for veteran affairs.

Is that correct?

Member Waters?

Yep.

Well, actually, I'm talking about two others.

Because the other position was not filled.

It should be two there already.

Except I'm not sure what happened to it.

I did put it in the budget last year.

It didn't happen.

Mr.

Johnson.

A lot of things don't uh can we put a pen in this?

I think I'm gonna need to have a conversation and understand this a little bit better.

All right, pen it.

We shall uh keep line item 78 pinned for the AM executive session hour.

All right, we shall now go to public comments.

I know we have three cards, Mia Anderson, Mr.

Love, and Mr.

Michael.

We'll start with uh Miss Anderson.

As I mentioned to everyone, we do have for the duration of a budget um abbreviated public comment sections.

Uh we have one minute on the clock.

Let's get that clock up, please.

Okay, Miss Anderson, the floor is yours, ma'am.

Um, I'm just following up the I can't keep up with every single budget session that y'all have had, but I am just following up on my inquiry about the right of first refusal, the city um building authority.

Um essentially spending 1.4 million on 144 properties to buy from the county.

Um, essentially the majority of them just being shifted over to the land bank.

My concern is that the city is spending money to buy from the county only to give it to the land bank, and their handling of our properties, I think is very uh poor.

It's not any checks and balances over there.

Um I have a lot of concerns about the checks and balances after y'all caught them out on the $52 million dollar savings account last year.

They asked uh 25 employees.

So when y'all cut their budget, they take it out on the people of Detroit and also on their own employees.

I I do still would like to have some type of understanding of that right of first refusal.

Okay.

Thank you.

I have someone from my team connect with you.

Mr.

Love.

Good morning to this honorable body.

I come before you today to express concerns for the city charter, where it allows for a board of fire commissioners.

And this advisory board, there are seven persons.

You put forward four, and the mayor puts forward four.

The mayor would pick from one or four of yours, and that would be a total of seven.

The checks and balances as they are today on a hundred and fifty million dollar budget is woeful.

No one looks at those dollars and says the fire truck costs 1.9 million, an aerial truck.

So oversight of 150 million dollars needs to be better.

This is already in the charter, it's not new.

So all you have to do is each of you make certain that you advise the mayor that you would love to have that back in there.

That would show a very, very good thing to the citizens who pay our taxes.

The firehouse said, well, I'm losing.

Thank you.

I'll come back.

Thank you so much.

Our final in-person speaker is Mr.

Michael.

Uh good morning, council, president.

Morning.

My name is Dolphin Michael.

I'm a retired uh Detroit firefighter.

I retired in 2011 uh with 38 years of service, and I retired as deputy chief.

I'm also the uh vice president of Phoenix and uh president of uh Project 100, uh which is an organization that uh recruits uh citizens of the Detroit for the fire department.

That is one of the items that uh citizens uh advisory board can address.

And uh currently only 21 percent of uh the Detroit employee fire department employees are citizens of Detroit.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, we shall now transition to our online callers.

Team, how many callers do we have?

And who do we have first?

Good morning, council president.

We have three online callers with our first caller being William M.

Davis.

Mr.

William M.

Davis, the floor is yours.

You have one minute.

General public comment.

Uh good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Okay, I think it would be fair for y'all to finally get some equity to the general fund retirees.

As you know, uh, we're the only ones that took a 4.5% pension cut.

We took a 15.5 annuity claw back, and we lost all of our cost of living, 2.25.

You know, our police and fire brothers and sisters, they didn't have to take that.

Um, they may have lost part of their cost of living.

But the vast majority of the general fund retirees, you know, we have a higher percentage that actually live in the city, they continue to live in the city.

Uh we can't say that about our brothers and sisters and the police and fire.

You know, we vote in the city.

Most of the most as just heard, most of them do not.

You know, I think we need to be greater equity and fairness, because you know, we we took major cuts and they did not.

So we should be getting this should be equity.

We shouldn't get less money, a less of a partial payment than they did.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Betty A.

Verner.

Uh good morning.

This is Betty A.

Vernon, president of the Soda Elsewhere Black Association.

Again, advocating today, asking for monies to be put in the budget for that land use hearing application fee or for the administration, Mayor Sheffield to uh allow our create a program to weigh back 1,500 land use hearing fee for organizations that have purchased these vacant lots that they've asked us to beautify and to use it in a way to improve our uh neighborhood and community and provide services for the residents and our community.

Also, we are in need uh of monies for quarters who have not been blessed as others in the city of Detroit, especially the think accorder.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Council President, our next and last caller will be owner Papa.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute general public comment.

Oh, good afternoon, and through the chair, or good morning, and through the chairman I be heard.

Yes.

Thank you.

Um, Johnny Johnson, he mentioned that um the oversight committees were only spending 90 something percent of their budget.

But that's pretty darn good.

Um uh to spend down to 90, 95 percent of your budget.

But what I heard, Ms.

Councilwoman Callaway says that the council never spends their money all the way down.

They have more.

So if you're using the same logic, then we need to cut the city council budget.

Because if you have monies left over, as Mr.

Corley says, you don't want that.

You don't want monies left over.

So let's let's fund our oversight committees because Mr.

Whittaker just showed us why we need an oversight because none of you are working actually for the citizens.

You're you're you're working for people, the police and fire who don't who aren't the majority in the city.

And uh Mr.

Whitaker didn't want you to reveal what was spoken in a honest manner.

So are we to assume that all you do is tell us lies?

Thank you.

All right, that takes us to the end of our public comments.

Uh Mr.

Corley, anything you want to add before we recess until 2 p.m.

All right, colleagues, any objections to recessing to 2 p.m.

Say none.

We shall stand in recess until 2 p.m.

Lunch will be served at 1 p.m.