Now I'd like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for Monday, April 20th, 2026.

May the clerk please call the roll.

Good morning.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Denzel and Tom McCampbell.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Madam Chair, we have quorum.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Given a quorum, we'll go right into the agenda for today.

Would like to ask if there is a motion to approve our minutes from our last session.

Hearing no objections, our minutes from our last session will be approved.

Uh for chair remarks today.

Just want to share that we do have a 130 p.m.

dangerous buildings hearing session later on.

So if you are uh tuning in, you are early.

I welcome you to come back at 130 p.m.

If you are on the list of the dangerous buildings, uh, if your properties on the dangerous buildings list.

Um, until then, we will go into the rest of the agenda for today.

We'll start off with public comments.

Um, everyone, we will give everyone two minutes today for public comments.

I don't see anyone here in person for public comments, so we will turn over to the folks that we have online, and I'll give everyone online two minutes to raise their hands if you are calling in for general public comments.

So at 12 oh excuse me, at 10 oh 12.

Excuse me, at 1012.

Let me drink some more coffee at 1012 this morning.

We'll be cutting off public comments.

So if you are online now, please raise your hands.

We'll put two minutes on the screen for folks, and we'll begin with the folks that we have online given nobody here in person.

And how many hands do we have raising?

Who do we have first?

And just let me pull that up in a second.

Okay.

Our first caller is Denise Dar Denise Darnell.

Okay.

Mr.

Nell, if you can hear us, you have two minutes.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, you can.

Good morning.

All right, Dr.

Darnell here.

I want to voice my support for some of the line items on your agenda for today.

I see council member Benson's uh memorandum to recognize financial literacy month, especially for our youth.

And that just happens to coincide with one objective that Eucharist on my real estate development team is offering as a closed loop development system, where we propose financial literacy and credit counseling for our prospective home buyers so that when they buy their home, they can stay in it and continue to afford it.

I also support council member at large Mary Waters memorandum for getting information on quit claim deeds and defraud.

I think she's doing great work in that area.

I also hope the city will fund the grant for United Community Housing Commission so that they can provide legal representation for those who are at risk for losing their homes.

And as we know, they are very hard-working uh organization in our city, helping a lot of people and have also supported Mary Waters deed fraud informational meetings.

Finally, I hope the city will also fund the supplemental emergency ambulance services so that our response time is reduced for those who are calling 911.

Have a great day.

That's the end of my comment.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Doc.

You as well.

Public comments is now cut off.

General public comments is cut off.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Cunningham.

Brother Cunningham, if you can hear us, you're up next I'm pulling over to the side of the road for safety.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

Thank you.

Good morning.

313 444-9114.

313-444-9114.

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They may never get their foot off your neck.

I'm a witness.

And I'll continue to be me.

I am humble.

I am me.

I'm not subservient.

The difference between suburbient and humble.

What they're looking for is subservient.

Did I steal like the law and needs attention?

He's pre-over it on time and show up.

And just to say a praise.

I'm giving not my phone up.

That's to me.

I don't told you.

Do a lot of great.

So I have some folks.

A lot.

It is a blessing.

Pray for me.

Um a lot of people like the city of the trade mayor from Patrick.

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If you like the same videos, I mean what does the others group wondering 44494 on Facebook?

Thank you.

Our next caller is phone number ending in 169.

Number ending in 169.

You're up next.

Hello, can you guys hear me?

Yes, we can.

Great.

I just want to say thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

Revenge is the act of harming or punishing someone in retaliation for a past wrong or injury.

Again, revenge is the act of harming or punishing someone in retaliation for a past wrong or injury.

Revenge is the act of harming or punishing someone in retaliation for past wrong or injury.

Thank you for my time.

Thank you.

As well.

Good morning, Miss Hughes.

You're up next.

Uh good morning, and through the chair, may I be heard?

Yes.

Yes.

I have a question about um 6.1.

I'm wondering what this due diligence for environmental due diligence is for.

Is this for the dirty dirt?

Um, are we using our own money to clean up uh these sites?

It seems a little unfair to the citizens to keep uh putting everything on their backs to pay for.

Thank you, council member McDougal for it, McDonald for the uh the uh the memo about the dirty dirt, but I don't see enough action around informing the people.

I don't see enough action around securing the sites right away.

Um I am wondering about the grant funding for commercial structure 257 for the Joe Lewis Greenway.

We seem to spend a lot of money on the Joe Lewis Greenway.

I grant funding or state money.

Um I'm I'm wondering what is the what is the rec what is the what what are we getting from all of this money we're spending at the Joe Lewis and why was it first considered uh commercial structures uh 257 using uh blight funding and now all of a sudden it's grant funding, but you don't tell us what grant it's coming from.

What grant are you using to um tear this commercial structure down?

And we spend a lot of money tearing down commercial structures, but district seven once again does not have a rec center.

You see, the youth are going to be out of control if you don't get your arms around what you can see through in the city with our youth.

They are not going to be denied downtown, so you need to organize some way for them to enjoy downtown.

After all, their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles.

Uh we supplemented all of this.

So it it belongs to us as well.

Thank you.

Thank you.

If the clerk can please note that we've been joined by member waters.

Thank you.

And thank you, Member McCampbell, for ensuring the funding needed for a new rec center in District 7.

And Ms.

Hughes, we completely agree with you.

Uh, we are working to ensure that we have spaces downtown for everyone, including our young people.

So thank you.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is phone number ending in 039.

Caller ending in 039.

You're up next.

Yes, we can.

Good morning.

All right.

All right.

Gabriela Santiago Ramirez, Comrade Mellet Jr.

sent me a letter.

Him, him and Zenith M.

Winfrey.

The teacher, Detroit City Clerk, the chairperson of the Detroit Electoral Commission.

And I believe the reason why he was sitting next to her when she was lying on Zoom.

And I'll be gay.

Now Gabriela Santiago Romero, you're over there in district six.

You know I'm a resident.

In district six, I'm a resident in every district in the city of Detroit.

And now I'm younger.

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For real, for real.

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And real.

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Gabby out of country.

Let me introduce you to Mr.

Rue.

Kenita Coleman did not shoot herself.

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It's not a suicide.

Rebecca McKay, commander of the homicide unit is lying.

She ain't got no evidence.

And maybe won't what the FC won't.

Now out here in the street.

I'm getting ready to say it like it really is.

When I come on public comment, I won't talk accordingly.

Understand this, Gabriella.

I'm not playing with none of you suckers.

Not no more about Nini.

I don't play about Mimi.

And I'm serious.

I'm serious.

That's real talk.

Real talk.

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Take it how you want to take it.

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I'm in the team.

I think you have a blessed day, sir.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Betty A.

Varner.

Miss Varner, good morning.

Good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

I'm Betty A.

Verner, president of DeSoda Ells World Black Association.

I want to first start off by uh stating that we had our health fair uh on the 18th.

It was successful.

People were very excited about getting those free services.

Uh, and they were able to walk out with glasses.

So the vision exam and eye screenings was very, very successful.

And also the health services.

And also I want to thank uh honorable council member waters for being a part of our event.

Mr.

Jason Kane, he's just a wonderful person.

I really got a chance to talk to him one-on-one.

We had a good time.

And he had uh multiple flyers to uh giving out resources to help people.

One thing that I didn't know about, one of the flyers was it's having title or probate issues with a family home.

And the program is the home for generations clinics.

It says you may be eligible for free legal advice at 320 Greenfield Road, suite 130.

That's in Dearborn from 10 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

on Fridays.

And there's certain dates: May 15, June 26th, July 17th, August 21st, September 18th, October 16th, and November 20th.

It's first come, first serve.

It's one-on-one service, and you get free advice.

And these services are offered by the Lake Shore Legal Aid.

Again, it's having, if you're having trouble with your title or probate issues with a family home.

Go, it's the program Home for Generations Clinics.

Two 320 Greenfield Road.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next caller is Jedante Smith.

Jadante, you're up next.

Good morning, ma'am.

Yes.

Good morning.

I want to say there is an individual named Dion Larkins.

Uh, and he is running a payment plan scan with the uh Wayne County Treasury Department.

He is uh severely delinquent on several properties and his name and other people's names.

Also, uh the dangerous buildings list is very interested in who owns properties and where they're located and how they're held accountable.

Also, the Bustles Family Center Development that is plan to build an apartment building on the Butler Family Center, right down the street from uh Councilman Well, President Pro Tem uh Coleman Young's home.

Uh, and it's funded by the Demetrios Pappas family, which is very interesting.

There, the owners of uh the former owners of Greek town.

Uh Cronos Concrete, uh, I love to see this property down zoned.

I need five votes on city council.

That means I might need your vote if you're listening to this.

Also, I'm very disappointed in President Pro Tem's response to uh having a meeting with myself and Detroit Handramic Coalition.

If you want to say no to a meeting, just say no, don't give us excuses.

Uh, also, I'm supposed to have a meeting with Linny Lyle, the chief operations officer for the City of Detroit.

So hopefully I can propose some things to make the city of Detroit uh departments work smoothly together because I go to City, I'm in City Hall daily, and I see what departments work together well, what departments don't work well, what departments don't communicate at all.

And for taxpaying citizens, we deserve to have a fully functioning uh city of Detroit government that works well together.

Um, John O'Brien and Elizabeth Samuel are in District One, um, specifically in Brightmore and they're doing a disservice.

James Tate, you and your team know of the ills that they're doing.

What are you doing to hold them accountable?

They're slum lords.

Also, Nicole Curtis has a dilapidated abandoned property at 451 East Grand Boulevard that needs to be nuisance abated, and city council can make that happen.

I love to see the land bank news abate this property because there's a court order from five years ago that says this property should have been maintained, and it's not.

Nicole Curtish is a millionaire, she's white, she's affluent from Oakland County, and she is not being held accountable uh to the rest of the standards to other people in the city of Detroit are being held accountable to, especially in my neighborhood of Island View.

If my house looked like that, it would be thank you.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Mr.

Foster.

Mr.

Foster, you're up next.

Good morning through the church.

Just a few things.

I would like to see City Council encourage or call us to speak about things that are relevant.

Just say something that makes sense or that have something to do with anything.

So I want to speak today about tokens.

Ums Waters, I know she has her favorite.

Miss Callaway, I know they have their images and things.

But after these guys get on television and everything, right?

We have a triple homicide or six mile.

Right.

Only come on TV after the incident.

And then start talking about praying and a lot of other things.

We want to hold them accountable to that 20 million dollars they got from the state to interrupt things to be involved, to revent, to get out here in the neighborhoods and the communities.

And stop stuff.

Right.

So that's where I'm at with our tokens and how we spend the money and who it is we uplifting after not even making the quotas.

Right.

Got to do better.

Some of them ran into churches, right?

Some of them went up against tow truck drivers.

But you did not hear not one of them speak up about the police that ran in the house and beat somebody up that was handcuffed.

Is it because they can't bite the hand that feed them?

You have to have independent voices here, man.

And start to change this culture.

I want to see these interruptors at 20 million dollars go to standing up on both sides.

I wonder if Malcolm Mesh could have done what he did if he was cool with the cheaper police.

Would he have been a leader if he could just pick up the phone and call his his homeboy and say can fix these problems?

Y'all have to learn a difference between leaders and tokens.

Thank you.

Our next caller is William M.

Davis.

Mr.

Davis, good morning.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes.

Okay.

This was a fantastic weekend to me.

I'm sorry that I wasn't able to make Biddy A.

Verners event on Thursday, but I went to the Democratic women's luncheon, which was fantastic.

You know, I had a great time down there on Saturday and Sunday.

I think we need to encourage more of our people to become more politically active.

And also it was good talking to a number of people from all over the state, you know, Democrats.

I'm a Democrat.

I'm not maybe all three of y'all may not be, but I am.

And um, you know, I think we need to be doing more to encourage more people to be politically active, you know, to vote.

Uh when I was coming up, Coleman Young used to energize voters.

City council used to energize voters.

You know, now our numbers look very bad.

Uh hopefully we could encourage more people to be more active, to seek justice, to do more, because uh we need to do more because what's going on in Washington is horrible.

We need to do more because it benefits us that we have more people voting.

And like I said, I had a wonderful time.

All the people that I voted for didn't necessarily win, but at least I had the opportunity to vote, and hopefully we could do more.

Hopefully, y'all have a great day.

Have a great day.

Bye.

Thank you.

You as well, Mr.

Davis.

Our next caller is Maurice.

Maurice, if you can hear us, you're up next.

Thank you, Madam Chairman.

I be heard.

Yes.

Uh, thank you.

Uh, so I'm calling with regard to some of the news of teens and summer activity and uh the mayor's six-point uh public safety plan with uh Chief Pettison.

Um so it's it's very easy to get caught in sensationalist news stories, and I I recognize that.

Um, but I do want to remind the public that crime is not only down here in the city, um, but down nationally among all age groups, including teens.

Some of this is because of a shift in policing policies after the uprisings of 2020.

Um, but I want I want to make sure we also recognize what social science research very clearly states over and over again that to reduce problems that may be caused by teens, you have to reduce the overreliance on youth incarceration and policing.

Narrowing, I'm gonna quote here, narrowing the pipeline to incarceration in the early stages of the justice system process by avoiding arrests for less serious behavior, diverting from court a substantial majority of referred cases, and heeding the research showing that these early stages play a crucial role in fueling over reliance on incarceration and exacerbating disparities.

Many jurisdictions are pursuing reforms in these critical early stages, and uh as I review them the six-point plan for the summer.

I would just urge the police department um along with counsel and the mayor's office to make sure that the items on that plan don't result in an increase in teen and police encounters, as once again the research clearly shows that to be ineffective and also to create short-term and long-term issues.

Thank you very much, madam chair.

Thank you.

I appreciate the notes.

Who do we have next?

Caller ending in 124.

Yes, good morning, may I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Okay.

I have concerns about 6.1 to this environmental due diligence.

What is it?

There's no description of the contract.

It's an awful lot of money.

Thank you, Member Uh McCampbell, for looking into the dirty dirt.

But you know what?

We need we need a dirty dirt map.

We need to know where all the known Gaianga dirty dirt lots are and other suspected ones.

For instance, at the mayor's meeting, one of the mayors meetings.

Tammy Daniel said, Well, we don't know that some lady wanted to buy some lots and grow vegetables for seniors.

And she said they won't give it to me.

And then Camel Daniel said, Well, we don't know if the if the dirt is clean or not.

So clearly we got a problem around the city, and we deserve to know.

And just as there's a demolition tracker, there ought to be a dirty hole tracker or the ones that have been tested, the ones that haven't also um the right to council, $500,000, but we're spending $300 an hour on those eminent domain attorneys from Farmington Hill.

A bunch of people in the desk.

Also, there continues to be collective prosecution in the illegal nuclear abatement program that is not allowed under the second amendment and restated inner governmental agreement in the recital that clearly states that the purpose of the land bank were to assemble and dispose of public property, including tax reverted property, and to only operate under the powers and duties under the law that creates the land bank, which specifically prohibited eminent domain and condemnation.

The land bank is doing condemnation.

It's not allowed to do that.

You're violating the charter, section 9-405 and violating equal treatment.

You can't deal with all these different ways.

Thank you.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is please protect pollinators.

Please protect pollinators.

You're up next.

To our next caller, please protect pollinators.

If you wouldn't mind also sharing your name for the record.

If you can hear us, we cannot hear you.

Who do we have next?

Going back to the top of the queue, we have Nini's friend.

Mimi's friend.

And we are going back to the bottom of the queue.

If you cannot join us, I will need to invite you to join us for our formal session tomorrow.

Going once.

Going twice, going three times.

Please join us tomorrow during public comment for general public comments during formal session.

I believe we have two more callers.

Everyone else lowered their hands.

Okay, great.

Well, thank you so much for helping us through public comment this morning.

Just want to make a note that there is an interactive map for the uh the dirty dirt uh that is around the city that the residents are concerned about.

Um, so if you go to Detroit Mi.gov and you search fill material, a test, or if you look up material test map, um, the map will come out.

It will show you the dates of the testing and oh no, it just it shows you the address and it shows you the status.

Um, if it's tested and if it's waiting results.

Um I uh I I can share that the administration is is going through the process right now.

Um cannot speak for the construction demolition uh departments, but we were informed that over 600 sites have already been tested.

Um we are in the process of waiting for the results.

Um and uh the city will be replacing um the dirts uh with with clean dirt.

Um, and and we are in that process right now.

And if you're looking to, if you're interested in seeing um where an address uh might be in that process, please do look at the map.

Um and thank you again, member McCampbell for asking more questions to put on the record uh for everyone to know as well.

With that, I will now move us along to the rest of the agenda under unfinished business 5.1.

Uh this is a memo relative to the documenting of uh the abandoned uh property at 10631 Whittier.

Uh this is remember Johnson's office, and responses have been received, so this can be received and filed.

Motion to receive or file.

Hearing no objections, 5.1 will be received and filed.

5.2 through 5.4 are various memos.

5.2 is a memo through member Callaway's office regarding after our establishments.

5.3 is a memo requesting information on quick claim deeds for the city of Detroit residential properties through member waters' office, and 5.4 is a memo through member waters' office relative to request for information on Wayne County prosecutions for deed fraud.

We've been asked to bring these items back in two weeks.

If there's a motion to do so or motion to discuss.

Motion to bring back in two weeks.

There's a motion to bring 5.2 through 5.4 back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, those items will be brought back in two weeks.

5.5 am memo through member Benson's office relative to a request for resolution recognizing financial literacy month.

I do do do.

If there is a motion to, this is the memo.

The resolution has been created.

This can be received and filed, I believe, along with 5.6.

5.6 is a memo relative to request for a resolution recognizing compost awareness week.

Uh if there is a motion to receive and file, 5.5 and 5.6.

Motion to receive and file.

Hearing no objections, 5.5 and 5.6.

The memos to the resolutions will be received and filed.

5.7.

5.7 is a memo through uh member Santiago Romero's office, our office relative to accessibility at the 36th district court.

If we can bring this item back.

Motion in two weeks.

Thank you, Member Waters.

5.7 will be brought back in two weeks.

And 5.8.

This is a memo relative to the department's pivot towards construction.

Um from uh focusing as uh our time from demolition and shifting over to construction.

Uh this is item 5.8, it's a memo through our office.

Responses sent.

We have received the responses to um to this memo.

So I feel comfortable receiving and filing 5.8.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.8 will be received and filed.

5.9 and 510 are emergency demolition contracts.

5.9.

This is contract number 3091566, utilizing the 100% spawn funding.

This is to provide emergency residential demolition of 2164 Harding.

Contractors, DMC consultants, they're in Detroit.

This will be for 16, 524, and this will be for construction and demolition.

And 5.10.

This is contract number 3091587 utilizing 100% bond funding.

This is for emergency residential demolition at 3736 LRE.

Contractors, DMC consultants, they're in Detroit, and this is for 15,900.

For 5.9 if there's a motion to discuss.

Thank you.

We brought this item back to receive the dates for the knock dates.

But apparently there's still issues in the background with this contract.

So I would rather bring 5.9 back TBD until we okay.

Hearing no objections, 5.9 will be brought back TBD.

And 5.10, we did receive the knock dates.

We have the information for this demolition.

If there's a motion, there's a motion to approve.

Are there any objections?

Hearing 9.5.10 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

We are now under new business.

Under the Office of Contracting and Procurements, contract number 600 6589, amendment number one.

This is to provide an increase of funds for environmental due diligence.

Contractors, the Monique Smith Group, they're located in Detroit.

This will extend through September 23rd of 2027.

There is an increased amounts of 3,500,000.

And this will be for construction and demolition.

I believe that there might be.

Um and it it's it's obviously costing us money.

Um, Nick, do you know whether or not and I'm forgive me, I I really am forgetting we're paying for this now, but are can we expect um Gaianga or anyone else to pay us back for this work that we now have to correct?

Uh it's my understanding the cost recovery conversations are ongoing with the law department on the various avenues um for potential cost recovery.

Okay.

I I I would I think myself and everyone else would feel better about moving this forward if we know that we're going to um get this paid back.

It's a lot of money for a mistake that we did not make.

Um oversight maybe, but now we're all paying for it.

Um, but okay, appreciates um that we that that we're doing what we have to do to test the soil.

Um, and and thank you for letting us know about this contract.

I'll turn it over to questions from a colleagues if anyone has anything, member McCampbell.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I would just say I I want to go further on that point that you just made.

I mean, this is a a as I'm looking at okay, $3.5 million increase um that's coming out of our blight funding um for contractors that did not do what they were supposed to do according to a contract that they had with the city of Detroit.

So I'm just wondering what has what was built into those contracts that we are now at a place that we're it's a conversation about the recovery of those assets and not just a more automatic process that that work was not done in the right way, and that that should be covered by the contracts who not do not who did the work incorrectly.

So I don't know, uh Ms.

Payne, if you could talk to that or if there's someone to speak to that, because we're this $3.5 million is not a drop in the bucket.

Understood.

So are you through the chair or just for clarification?

Are you asking what was included in our original environmental services contracts, or were you asking um uh something regarding the demolition contracts?

Member McCampbell.

Through the chair, I just need to know, like I'm speaking more of the demolition contracts on understanding that there is a need why this was three, there's a need for this increase in testing because of where we are with the contaminated dirt.

But I'm wondering what is it, what was in a demolition contracts that speaks to this if the contracts were not fulfilled in the way that they were supposed to be, um, that will recruit the funding or pay for this, um, then now that we have to go back and correct it all as a city.

Yeah.

Nick, would you happen to know if by them contaminating our dirt they breached their contracts and they essentially did not do their proper work?

This might be a question for the law department, but these are things that we're all asking and and and trying to figure out because through the chair, I I would like you said, I would probably defer to uh the law department on the confirmation of of breach of contract.

I what I can say is our our scope of service does require our demolition contractors to use fill material that uh complies with all federal, state, and local regulations.

Um and those regulations would include uh the generic residential cleanup criteria that these uh sites are currently exceeding.

So thank you.

What I'm gonna do is to the law department, we're gonna bring this back.

Um I think to the end of the agenda.

I'm not sure if you're prepared if you can bring someone else that can speak on where we are in the process of trying to recoup these funds.

Um that way we have a better sense before we we move this out of committee today.

So if we can do that, uh to the chair.

Uh I will contact uh who I can I'm guessing this is going to be somebody in our contracts division.

Um so I'm I'll try to get somebody up if we can bring this back at the end of the agenda.

Okay, thank you.

LPD.

Thank you, madam chair.

Excuse me.

These are of course excellent questions.

Um the last time uh there was something like this came up.

I'm trying to remember what the issue was.

It was not the dirty dirt issue, but you asked me and others what the next step was.

And I messed up the question.

I I I I said I the the actual answer was send a memo to uh us or the law department in this case requesting a report.

Um what I was jumping to was the question this year, which is well, in a given situation, does it make sense to lift the privilege for such a report?

And I would think that in this case, given everything going on, it would probably make a lot of sense to request a privilege report from the law department because whatever, whether it's breach of contract or whatever possible causes of action, the last thing we want to do now is give anybody a roadmap in a public document, even the that even the laws requiring us to operate in public, you would operate in public, don't require us to do that, and we shouldn't do it.

But I would think that a report from the law department about what the possible causes of action and what the plans are to seek recovery would and a confidential document would be the appropriate thing at this point.

If we were to have a public discussion about it, it was phrased before are we gonna get the money back?

Well, we never know that, of course.

But we would we would know and we would want to have a discussion.

I mean, if I think I think any client, the city of Detroit is people would want to have a confidential discussion with his lawyers about what the prospects are given all the money that's involved in this in this contract.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Agreed.

And I think it's at minimum, let the public know that there is that those conversations are happening, that we are are working to do that.

Um, because there's a lot of things happening at the same time, but heard.

Thank you.

All right, folks, without objections, we will come back to 6.3 at the end of the agenda.

And would like to um discuss six point three if there's a motion to discuss.

Thank you, member waters for 6.3.

This is contract number 6007535, utilizing a hundred percent city funding.

This is to purchase DPD special response team firearms.

This is the contractors in Michigan Police Equipment Company.

They're located in Lansing.

This will be for a one-year period at 108,232 with 50 cents.

And this will be for police.

There's a motion to discuss.

I see uh thank you.

I see some folks are here to join us.

You can feel free.

We have three seats up here if any three members from DPD want to join us.

Anyone that's here to to answer any questions that we might have.

Um, anyone that can provide us an overview um of this request, and then if anyone else would like to speak as well, there are seats next to our law departments um that folks can take as well.

But then as people settle in, there's a microphone in front of you.

Make sure you press the button at the bottom of it until it turns green.

Once it does, if you wouldn't once it does, if you wouldn't mind uh introducing yourselves, name and title for the public and letting us know a little bit more about this contract.

Uh good morning, Commander Ian Severy of Metropolitan Division.

Good morning.

Morning, Commander Stacey Alvarado Management Services Division.

Good morning.

Sergeant Derek Keasley, special response team.

Good morning to you all.

Uh to whoever can share uh this contract.

You can check the capital.

So uh good morning.

This contract is in regards to purchasing rifles for the special response team.

Uh historically, the special response team has been the uh sole unit for uh events that occur within the city that are very challenging to uh maintain and address um very high-risk operations.

The last purchase of rifles for the special response team was made in 2016.

Those rifles, in addition to reaching their lifespan, also uh presented issues where we had for both safety of officers and general public, we had to deck those rifles and take them out of service.

So currently most of our members are carrying uh privately owned firearms, uh, and this contract would allow for a uniform uh issuance of rifles across the team.

Okay.

Um so now I'm curious, people that purchase their own firearms, do you help them maintain their firearms or is it an agreement that you carry yours?

Is there a yes, absolutely?

So it has to be department uh department approved rifle, uh very stringent uh examination process by uh since my time at Metropolitan Division, we now have master armorers.

Um as we look at the the price of this uh being what it is, uh we have developed ways to help mitigate the cost in the future, uh, and that's included in this contract and some of the training that we've put our members through.

But those rifles that are privately owned are helped to a very high standard and examined uh and make sure to only have the approved equipment uh fixed to them.

Okay.

Um you mentioned really high intense uh dangero situations.

Uh can you share what those are?

So the special response team, uh, in addition to responding to uh any type of barricaded uh gunman type situation, uh high-risk search warrants for homicide suspects, uh, and in light of recent events with the attack at Temple Israel, uh special response team would be the primary unit to respond to that and uh address that threat.

Um and so equipping them with proper equipment is vital for the success of the city.

Okay.

Um any other questions from my colleagues on 6.3 hearing nine.

Oh no chair.

Oh, vice chair.

Thank you, um, madam chair.

Good morning, everyone.

Thank you for being here.

Um seeing that this would be more uniform with the rifles, just wondering, I know this for special response.

Um how what is the I guess I'm just trying to can you go into how these weapons are stored and where they're stored and um what the access look like just thinking about the safety and the the storage of these weapons.

So these rifles are stored within the armory at Metropolitan Division.

Uh it's a very secure location with not only cameras but a vault uh door um in a public form.

I don't want to go too far into specifics about how they're secured, but they are in a highly secured area with 24-hour uh monitoring.

Thank you.

And I know you mentioned the last time that there were report or the last time I believe you mentioned replacement.

What is the um with this purchase was to go through what would be the next uh year for replacement of these?

So based upon this contract, the way we've been able to do this as well as the additional training that uh our members have uh obtained.

Um there are repair kits that are included in this that should uh under ideal situation at least double the lifespan of the rifle uh the plant in addition with our master armors uh to the point of taking a camera and uh not just your basic um inspection, but really breaking it down, checking for any fabrication errors, any kind of uh stresses in the metal of the firearm itself, uh those issues will be much better identified and fixed at a sooner sooner time than what they would have been in the past.

Um and based upon this purchase, the plan would be to only replace those rifles that would need to be replaced.

Uh so the sticker shock of this should never come back up again.

Thank you.

And just two more questions on this.

Um, and this may be for OCP, but if you all know, I know there were two bids on this contract.

Um neither were Detroit-based.

Um thinking about uh do we have any Detroit-based contractors that provide uh firearms to the department and is there any conversation with them on you know this more specialized um weaponry that would be needed um in the future or ongoing um so I can't speak to if there are any vendors within the city that have the FFL in order to sell the specific firearms that are available from this vendor.

Um I know that OCP did um put out the bid, part of what we wanted was a trade-in.

So the old weapons for SRT that are no longer serviceable.

Um we've within this contract, there is a credit for the purchase of those older weapons to reduce the overall payment price from the contract value.

Thank you.

Um and understanding that I think so.

Last week for a different department for D dot, no, um you are not DDAP, but we had another sp more specialized contract um and had a conversation around that there may not be Detroit vendors um that could provide that at the moment.

So I'm just as I understand that the goal would be not to have to need this uh amount moving forward, but as we are looking at our vendors, especially in the city of Detroit and more specialized, I think um you all have the expertise of what you are looking for as a department.

If with together with OCP, if we could just be more um have more of a foresight to say, okay, this is what we need in the future.

How can we get our the vendors, especially the ones that we're already working with up to that capacity to be um services or provide these in Detroit, that would be great.

So I just wanted to lift that up as we are having more specialized contracts.

The last thing I would um bring up, I want to make sure I had all my questions here.

Oh, as we're talking about this more to a special response team.

I know you are dealing with more of these um uh more dangerous situations, but do you all also have more of a um you know a non-lethal approach that if it if a situation does provide for that that you all try to um achieve uh before going to a lethal aspect?

Yes.

Uh so any time a special response team is mobilized, I am out there with them.

Um I'm not in the stack, so I'm not making entry, but I am in the rear uh guiding them in every operation that we do, the mitigation of risk is paramount.

Um speaking uh so patience, usually time is on our side.

There are obviously times where we don't have the luxury of waiting, but when time is on our side, and even when time is not on our side, uh firearms are the last resort.

We will ultimately attempt if if possible to cycle through the multiple uh less lethal options that we have.

We always want to maintain the safety of not only the public and any bystanders, but the subject that we're addressing as well as our officers.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

I think my final question and a concern for me always is um police uh tools being used against protesters.

Do you have you ever used this at protests that were nonviolent?

And uh can you assure us that you will not use these for nonviolent protests?

Well, I am also in charge of our protest team, so I can assure you that these will not be used in any type of protest, any type of nonviolent protest.

Okay, thank you.

And I've been to plenty across the country, and I have seen I have been in cities where I'm met with militarized equipment.

Our citizens, our residents do not need to be faced with militarized equipments if they are simply on our seats protesting for something that they believe in.

And I think that we've done okay here.

Just want to make sure that we continue to do that as well.

Absolutely, and that is our goal as we continue to improve.

Okay, all right, thank you.

Hearing no other questions, is there a motion to approve six point three motion?

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, 6.3 will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you all so much for your work.

All right, moving us along, I'm gonna move us back to 6.2.

6.2.

This is contract number 6007 eight five, utilizing 100% grant funding to provide demolition of commercial structures, group two five seven for the Joe Lewis Greenway project.

The contractor is Adamo Demolition, they're located in Detroit.

This will be for 18 months at 653,000 with 400, and this will be for construction and demolition.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss six points two?

Motion.

Motion to approve.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none.

Oh discussion, objection?

Discussion.

Discussion, vice chair.

Um, Madam Chair, if is there someone I want to speak to um this contract and Joe Lewis Greenway?

I have, yes, member McCampbell.

I have here Eric Cooper.

If Eric Cooper is online, if we can make him into a panelist.

Um, Mr.

Washington, who else would you like to join us as panelists for 6.2?

Uh Nick Payne will be covering on behalf of Ms.

Harryton today.

Oh, okay.

And if we can um have Mr.

Payne join us again.

Once our panelists have joined us, um, if you wouldn't mind unmuting yourself and introducing yourself for the public.

Good morning, Eric Cooper, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Good morning, Nick Payne, construction demolition department.

Good morning.

Thank you again for being here to our vice chair.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Um, so this contract is for 653,000.

I know this is a commercial site and um looks to be sizable.

Just want to go into, you know, we've had a conversation around.

I know this for the Joe Lewis Greenway.

Would this is will this parcel is this parcel privately owned, or is it uh owned by the city or the land bank?

Someone can answer that.

Yep.

Through the chair.

I have that information right here.

One moment through the chair, this property is where to go.

Uh owned by the city of Detroit.

It's publicly owned.

Okay, so it's publicly on, and so we won't have to not going to benefit a private owner.

Okay, and then just thinking about um, there was a question that came up a public comment.

Um, and I share that question.

Could you just go into what grant this is funded by through the chair?

The grant is actually funded through the recipient of the grant is actually the general services department.

They provided us with the count string for us to utilize to perform demolition remediation services.

So I'd probably I would defer to the General Services Department on the specifics of the grant that they have received.

Good morning.

This is our company through the chair.

M E DC grant, and that is the uh grant that has been utilized for uh a lot of the um Joe Lewis Greenway projects.

Joe Lewis Greenway related projects.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you for that.

And just wanted to, you know, I've um just want to state that I'm I'm a support of Joe Lewis Greenway.

I know in District 7 um we have quite a bit of it.

I think it would be good if there is someone available to just speak to um the need around this demolition and what is planned for the Joe Lewis Greenway and the the impact that we are looking to have um, especially around this site, but just overall, if I don't know if there's someone to do that, but if I'm in favor of moving this contract forward, but it would be good at least to have that door formal session, madam chair.

I'm not sure, so I'll just repeat.

If someone is if there's someone available now to just talk about how this parcel and this demolition fits into the overall plans for the Joe Lewis Greenway and the overall impact that we're looking to have in this area, but across the city with the Joe Lewis Greenway.

Um I think it would be beneficial uh for members of public to hear that as well.

Mr.

Washington, is anyone on from the Joe Lewis Greenway or anyone that can talk about the project?

Or Mr.

Payne, do you feel comfortable talking about that information?

Uh through the chair, I can't get into too much specifics on their project, but I can provide an updated aerial image to outline um kind of the proximity this building and the additional lot is to the Joe Lewis Greenway, if that would be helpful.

That would be great.

Yes.

I think we'll just give you access to share, which you should have, and you should be able to share that with us.

Through the chair, so as you can see, the recent Joe Lewis Greenway uh concrete work has begun north of 1440 Wildermere and 14445 Lawton.

Um the the entire trail runs above both parcels.

So our goal is to uh remove this blighted structure along with the blighted lot, um, just adjacent to it, clear out all of the debris, dirt piles, construction material, etc.

to have a uh clean and open space alongside the greenway uh to support GSD's efforts on the Joe Lewis Greenway.

Thank you.

And through you, madam chair, to the right of this parcel, is that already um okay, all right.

That's okay.

Just wanted to see where and then on the left of it, is that another parcel that is there, or is that just um green space on the other side of the road?

Okay, it looks like that's a developed space.

All right.

So yeah, our goal is to create a nice open space free of blight uh for Joe Lewis Greenway participants to traverse.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, and Madam Chair, I think for through you for uh Mr.

Washington, I I think having someone on tomorrow just to talk about how this fits into the plans of the Joe Lewis Greenway, and again, just uh I think the more repetition that we hear about the benefit that the Greenway has and could have for these areas will be good.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair, and I agree.

Um talking about the development that can happen through the greenway is important.

Um you mentioned tomorrow.

So if this was to be discussed tomorrow, we need to move this out to new business, which I support if you're okay with that.

I'm fine with that, but thank you through you, madam chair.

I'm fine with that, but also I guess I'll say whenever is discussed at formal session.

Okay.

Understood.

Just want to help with coordination too.

And just want to share Member McCampbell, uh, district six and seven along the greenway.

Uh we are saturated with auto shops that our residents are tired of.

So I'm I'm interested in in what we can do uh to limit that.

Um and and to use the greenway as an opportunity uh to um really support our families um that are being impacted negatively by by the auto shops, um, but also find ways to to be good neighbors with our existing businesses there as well.

Um so we have a lot to do.

We will work on those issues.

Um is there a motion for 6.2?

Motion to approve 6.2 and soon to formal recommendation to approve.

Okay.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, 6.2 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve, and just a note to the administration once this uh gets in front of the full council.

If we can please make sure the greenway is ready to share um any updates around economic impact and neighborhood development.

I will move us along.

6.3, we have already discussed 6.4.

This is contract number 6007639.

This is a contract for legal representation that needs to be in internal operations.

Uh so I is there a motion to refer 6.4 back to the president's office to be referred to IOS, hearing no objections.

6.4 will be referred to the president's office to be referred to the internal operations standing committee.

Madam Chair.

Oh, yes, madam clerk.

6.2.

Is that going to be for new business?

We did not send to new business, so it's just going to be formal.

Thank you.

6.5 is contract number 6004802 amendment number two utilizing 100% revenue.

This is to provide an extension of time and updates the terms for the mobile bus ticketing application.

Contractors token transits Inc., they're located in San Francisco, California.

They are extending their time through July 27 of 2027.

And there is an increased amount of 2,901.

Bringing this total contract to 5,808, and 644.

Is there a motion to discuss 6.5?

Discussion.

Thank you.

If we do, if we can please make them into a panelist.

And director, once you're on with us, if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself for the public.

No, I'm sideways.

Let's just do this.

Good morning.

Good morning.

We can see you on our end.

Um, thank you for joining us.

Uh, we are discussing 6.5.

This is the extension uh extended contract for the mobile bus ticketing application.

If you wouldn't mind just sharing with us in the public, um what this ticketing application is and what it does, and what this uh contract will do.

Sure, absolutely.

Through the chair, um again, good morning.

So uh this contract with token transit is what facilitates the uh mobile uh mobile passes uh that people can use the Dart Pass.

Uh so right now, um, if you want to ride Smarter D dot using the Dart pass on the mobile app, uh this uh token transit is the contractor um that makes that happen.

Um the uh contract period is for one more year, and that was the the change here was rather than having it be for three years if we actually negotiated with token uh through the OCP uh to reduce it to one.

Uh the reason we did that is um D dot is right uh at the cusp of installing brand new fare boxes and smart uh is about 12 months behind us, and we believe that the uh new fare boxes will open up a lot of uh additional opportunities for um stored value cards and uh phone payment and um mobile other mobile options as well.

So that's the the change here was to make it 12 months.

That gives us another opportunity uh in 12 months if we wanted to uh have a different contract or go with a different vendor that might uh be more in line with the the uh new uh features will be unlocking with the new equipment.

Hope this helps.

Thank you.

It does.

Um we are attracting a lot of tech companies, uh a lot of um investments in in local startups.

I'm wondering, we keep talking about specialized services and trying to bring those to the city.

Do you know if there are local vendors or anyone that can begin to do that work so that we're able to, and I know we can't just give directly to people, but here again is an opportunity um for us to create locally.

Do you know if this has been encouraged um or if you have talked to any other um uh app companies that that might be interested in this locally?

I don't know specifically um of vendors looking that have have or could develop product like this, but I do think that with the new uh equipment we'll have that help that will have all these other ways for stuff to interact with it, uh, that that would be a great opportunity like right now for us to you know reach out to uh new lab and some of our other tech startup partners and and offer this as an opportunity, perhaps.

Um, but uh for for this is really to allow us to continue our our old-fashioned, I'm gonna call it way of just having something on the phones that then our drivers uh have to look at.

But I think it's a great idea.

Okay, thank you.

Um if if we can do that, please.

I uh this council is really pushing to to invest in the city, and I'm realizing that um we we may not be ready for these opportunities, so let's get our people ready um to make the bids.

Um my last question is would you happen to know what type of data is collected uh through this app so the this app um would collect data about um you about activating the passes basically?

So because our fare boxes can't interact with them, uh it would just be like if you're buying uh if you're buying and activating a new four-hour pass, which would be the same thing as putting $2 in the machine.

It'll just know that you're a you know, based on if I if if it's my account and I'm purchasing it, it'll just know that you purchased it.

Um, as far as like um any other personally identifying information, credit card information, all of that is done um separately.

So none of that is collected or saved.

Okay.

I don't know if that's what you're asking, but hopefully that helps.

That does help.

Thank you.

And um, I'm really grateful to see this happening.

My first year on council um when I got on the bus, you needed exact change uh or you needed a pass prior to.

And I have uh ran in the bus without exact change.

And thankfully there's been a nice neighbor that has given me their bus pass.

Um, but to be able to have it on your phone, um, I think really is game changing to having us use the bus more, make it easier, um, which is what we have to do, make it easy to get on the bus.

Um, so this is exciting.

Um, are there any other questions for 6.5, Vice Chair?

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, good morning, director.

Just to um make sure I'm clear for this contract.

We are estimating that the increase revenue would be 2.9 million.

Is that that's just from the town for the fares that we would collect through this app?

Is that correct?

Yes, sir.

Through the chair.

Yes, sir.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Seeing no other questions, there was a request to send 6.5 to new business.

If there's a motion, motion to send to the business.

Hearing no objections, 6.5 would be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Colleagues, 6.9 is another D Dot contract.

Um, if there are no objections, um, since we have the director on with us, would like to without objection discuss six points nine.

6.9.

This is contract number 600 7822, utilizing the 100% city funding.

This is to provide a transit to vehicle tracking system.

The contractor is swiftly, they're located in San Francisco, California.

This is a three-year contract for 1,222,179 with 38 cents.

Again, this will be for transportation.

Uh, if there is a motion to discuss.

Discussion.

Thank you.

Absolutely.

Uh good morning once again through the chair.

So uh 6.9 is uh a contract with a company called Swiftly.

Um basically uh the origin of this effort um is stemming from uh a long um long running concerns, I'm calling them complaints about the inaccuracy of the uh real-time bus predictions.

Um I think that that was brought to a little bit finer point when we had a couple of meetings with uh high school students.

Uh one I think the the most influential for me was we uh went out and met with some students at Cody High School and heard uh their biggest frustration, more so than even um the schedule or anything like that was that you know they were using the D dot app.

Uh it was telling them to go out to the bus stop and that there was a bus coming, and they could even see the little icon moving along.

And then when it was time for the icon to get to their stop, the bus didn't show up.

And that that's something that was severely impacting uh their ability to to not only use the system but to rely on it and trust it.

And so to hear that from um from students in particular, but then kind of joining the chorus of complaints.

Um and then uh you know, really looking for a solution that would help us improve the accuracy of of those, but also to provide additional tools for us to communicate to riders what's actually happening.

So obviously uh it's not uh groundbreaking or or uh like super um insightful, but if you tell people the something that's accurate, it's much better than saying something's gonna happen and then have it not happen.

So, with all of that being said, um we were uh looking for opportunities where we could really make a difference given the the hardware um and systems that we currently have in place.

Um if there was a way that we could make a big impact in the reliability and also the ability to communicate with our passengers through more accurate um and more featured real real-time data.

Um Swiftly is a company that has a unique uh product that kind of aggregates all of those tools, and it's also one that um smart and the people mover use as well.

So um that's kind of how we landed on Swiftly.

So again, the biggest things that this provides is it uh basically replaces the real-time GTFS feed.

So that's the um uh it's basically an API that sends out the real-time predictions uh for uh apps to use.

So uh that would be um Google Maps, Apple Maps, um, transit app, which is the one that we're really driving people to.

The RTA has made an investment in an upgrading transit app for all riders as well.

Um, also it provides us a really easy way to be able to type in rider alerts uh tied to a stop, a route, or the system.

Uh, and then also it provides internally a lot of tools that will really help us fine-tune and improve our service management and deployment.

So, for example, if you call customer service right now, they're having to interact with custom with uh central dispatch in order to learn if there's a bus that isn't there or what the status is.

Swiftly provides that screen that's up where each customer service uh rep can have their own login.

I can just see uh with a couple of clips, clicks really quickly what's going on and pass that along to the customers.

Um, when I was at Smart and the Peep Mover, we implemented this uh same service, and that was one of the things that was really remarkable that wasn't anticipated at Smart was that it improved or reduced the wait times and improved the uh uh speed of turnaround for customer service calls about bus status.

So I'll stop there.

Uh but hopefully that helps um with the really the importance of this.

And it'll be uh it'll be about 30 days um or less to roll this out, and I think people will see an immediate improvement to uh to our ability to communicate accurately about the service on the street.

Thank you, director.

Thank you for meeting and listening to young people.

Uh I joined their course of the frustration.

I think I I messaged you when I missed the second bus that I thought was going to arrive.

Thankfully, I had my bike because I biked home.

Um, but if I would have been communicated earlier, I could have biked home earlier instead of hanging out there for about an hour and a half waiting for the next bus.

Um, so this is really great.

It really does help people plan their days and and plan their transit around that.

Um, if it's connected to the people mover, um, maybe if you have an app that tells you where other bikes are too, right?

This is the network I think that we're trying to create for transportation.

Um, so so grateful for this work.

Just to confirm, um, is that little bus icon still going to be what we look at?

It's just going to be accurate this time, or are people going to also be able to access uh in real time where their bus is.

Yeah, so you'll see on uh the transit app in particular.

Again, that's the one we were trying to really push people to because it is the transit app does have information also about bike share and um really also if you go to another um city, you can use transit app there as well.

Um but yes, you'll be able to see the the there's a different symbol that can confirm that it's actually tracking that bus.

Sometimes you'll see that now, uh, but because of the way that Clever is putting that data out, it may be giving a false positive.

Um, but for example, like we've actually uh when I was at Smart and we've asked for the same sample here, is you can actually compare the real the accuracy of the real-time predictions, and it's like more than 30% more accurate um just based on using this software compared to like the the um the canned uh package that that clever includes.

So just just the software alone can improve that, and and that's one of the things we we would see, especially if you have a bus that um if you're near the beginning of a trip, oftentimes um the the native the clever system is not as good as predicting what will happen next, whereas um swiftly uh the software solution algorithm that they have is much more successful at that.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Um member waters.

Thank you.

I think this thing is broken or something.

It looks like it I think it's broken.

So good morning, director.

Good morning.

Good morning.

And I just want, you know, I I am pretty excited about the um about the app.

Um so um rider's able to use the app to notify uh you when the buses are either extremely light or if they're a no-show.

So through the chair.

Um it's a really good question.

There's two ways to answer that.

One would be the um the software itself and the user interface that we have makes um a much easier way for us for us to know when there's a bus that's running ahead or behind, and and really to share that not just with dispatch but across customer service uh with the management team, supervisors as well.

So it'll make it easier for us to have a better pulse for what's going on on the street.

So that's kind of the one hand.

The transit app.

So Swiftly is really just the software that helps make the stuff that's going out to these apps more um successful, more accurate, and also uh more information.

The transit app, which is the one that we're really encouraging people to use, does have um voluntary feedback information.

So you can actually through a quick click say, yes, the bus was on time, no, it was late.

You can say the bus was full or not, the bus was clean or not, and that's feedback that can kind of like it's a crowd source basically that can then provide that feedback back to the providers and or inform other riders about the quality of the routes that they might be interested in using as well.

So I hopefully that answers your question, but it really does provide more tools for feedback.

Well, well, yeah, it it does in terms of the feedback.

And I'd like to see um uh us upgrade that app to include real time, you know, because too often I'm driving down the street and I see people standing out in the street looking and looking and looking for that bus.

Sometimes I'll come back that way another hour later and might see that same person.

So I just wonder if there's a way, or maybe perhaps there's something you can look at in the future if you don't have it right now, but people can notify you in real time that in fact this bus is not is not showing up, it's over an hour late, something like that.

I think that's a great point.

Hopefully, this information will help uh will help them be able to be more accurate.

And the the last thing too that would provide another if someone doesn't have a phone or doesn't know to use the app is on Jefferson.

We're gonna be piloting um soon.

Uh we've got money set aside.

We're gonna be piloting uh like tablet-sized screens that will go with the bus stop, and those will be fed the information from Swiftly so that if someone's standing there, even if they don't have their app, they'll be able to see you know if the bus is running behind, when the next bus is coming, and then also how to contact customer service if they have an issue.

So hopefully all these things will help with the rider experience to your point.

Okay, all right.

Keep it going.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Member Waters.

Agreed.

Thank you, Director.

Um, there is a motion or a request, uh, colleagues, that 6.9 be sent to new business.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.9 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, Director.

Thank you, D D dot team.

Um colleagues, I will bring us back.

Um we were at 6.6 now.

Thank you.

So now we're at 6.5.

Excuse me.

Nope.

We did 6.5.

Correct.

So we are at 6.6 now.

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay, 6.6.

This is contract number.

And I believe there are two.

Um these are ambulance contracts for fire.

And they are on top of each other.

Wonderful.

6.6 and 6.7.

Uh these are both fire department contracts.

6.6 is contract number 600 7737, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for the city of Detroit.

Contractor is Arch EMS Medical Services.

They're located in Detroit.

This is a three-year contract at 1,506 with 540.42 cents.

6.7.

This is contract number 600 7727, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for the city of Detroit.

The contractor here is Amir Pro EMS, Michigan LLC.

They are located at Romulus.

This is a three-year contract at 1,682 with 445.60 cents.

Both of these again will be for the fire department.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.6 and 6.7?

Discussion.

Discussion, Vice Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

If there's someone on from DFD, I'm just wondering for 6.7.

I know AmericaPro is located in Romance.

I'm just wondering where the um the EMS will be located for services, or where the where would they be stationed for services with this contract?

Okay, thank you, Vice Chair.

Discussion for 66 and 6.7.

I believe we should have DC Hillman on with us as a panelist.

If so, if we can please make them over, uh bring them as a panelist.

And then DC, once you have joined, if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself for the public, good morning, council members, and good morning, uh Chair.

Good morning.

My name's Derek Hellman.

I'm Deputy Commissioner, uh, fire department here.

Thank you for joining us, Vice Chair.

Thank you.

Good morning, DC.

I am wondering just uh if you can just go into where for both of these contracts, where the uh units will be stationed, and especially for um process there are uh located in Rome is just want to make sure that they will they be stationed in Detroit.

Yes, um through the chair.

Um I I apologize.

There are actually three contracts.

I didn't know 6.8, I believe also is part of this too.

So I don't know if you wanted to see that, but the um three uh companies that we're using, we strategically locate throughout the city.

Um so you have Heart, Amerapro, and Superior EMS, and they are dedicated units that we strategically locate um throughout the city.

Um so Americarl uh is on the west side of the uh city.

Um heart would be in the central area of the city, and superior is on the east side of the city.

This is how we yes, sorry, because you are correct.

There are three, thought it was two uh today, but uh without objection, would like to also discuss six point eight um for the ambulance discussion.

6.8, this is contract number 600741.

Um again, this is ambulance coverage, and the contractor here is superior air grounds.

They are located um in Detroit.

Uh there is another, there's is also a three-year contract uh for one million seven hundred and seventy thousand with six hundred and fifteen again for fire.

Sorry, DC.

As you were saying, um, you have three contracts to help cover the city.

Thank you so much, Chair.

I apologize for uh the correction.

No, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Vice Chair.

Thank you.

Thank you, DC.

Um, and thank you for that location breakdown.

The the final question I have as we're thinking about these um supplemental uh coverage.

Is there uh is there is it possible?

Is there plans to you know increase our um the number of EMT and EMS uh that we have in uh the department to lessen the uh need for these contracts?

The chair, uh yes, there is.

Um we are uh going to work with budget and uh with with you guys with the council to look at how that plan is implemented and off-ramp some of these contracts and uh have that done with ourselves, but uh obviously there is a benefit to having that private uh public partnership too that we want to still maintain to absolutely definitely want to have it if we um I know there may be a need for, but uh good to hear that there are plans for that looking forward to bring as much as we can in-house and and having um I appreciate all the work that um you all do at DFD and and the and the folks that with the contractors as well, but we'll love to see more of that be within DFD.

So thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Are there any other questions?

Uh seeing none.

Um, to my vice chair's points.

Um, and I know DC you and I have spoken about uh your desires to also try to bring some of this more in-house.

Um, given this being a three-year contract, um, and we may be here next time this contract comes back up.

If you wouldn't mind sharing with us beforehand what those discussions are, the plans are um because I'm assuming we we may always need some type of outside contractor.

Um, but I know that you're working really hard to make sure that uh we're able to bill correctly, so we're able to save some money, recoup some funds.

Um, so uh thank you and good luck on those efforts.

If you can let us know later um how we can help and and where you are in those efforts, um that would be very helpful.

Through the check and I come out one more thing, is we'd love to sit down with each of the council members and uh you know show the eventual plan of the department and uh really looking forward to because we did offer also put in these uh contracts the flexibility to uh ramp up and um wrap down uh as needed.

Okay, thank you.

And yes, I uh encourage that as well.

There's a lot of exciting things happening in the fire departments.

There's also a lot of support that our fire department needs to be able to to make those things happen.

Um seeing no other questions, is there's a motion to send there's a request to send 6.6, 6.7, and 6.8 to new business.

Motion.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, 6.6, 6.7, and 6.8 will all be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you again, DC.

Thank you.

Thank you, everybody.

Moving us along.

We have already discussed six points nine.

We are now at six points ten.

This is a request to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2026 community education sub-award grants.

This is a Michigan recycling uh award for DPW.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss six points ten?

Motion to approve.

There's a request for new business if there's a motion.

Motion to send to the business hearing no objections, 6.10 would be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve under the legislative policy division LPD 6.11 is a report concerning vape use on city property.

We can receive and file.

Motion to receive and file.

Hearing no objections, 6.11 can be received and filed under miscellaneous 6.12 is a memo through our office relative to a resolution to recognize April as National Arab American Heritage Month.

If there is a motion to approve to new business, motion to approve to do business.

Hearing no objections, 6.12 will be approved to new business with the recommendation to approve.

6.13 is a memo through our office relative to resolution to recognize April 28th as workers' memorial day.

There's a motion to discuss.

Motion to discuss.

Thank you.

Member McCampbell, I believe.

Are you doing one as well?

Or what treasolution would you be working on?

I am working on a resolution around May Day.

So on May Day.

approved to do business hearing no objections 6.12 will be approved to new business with the recommendation to approve 6.13 is a memo through our office relative to resolution to recognize April 28th as workers memorial day there's a motion to discuss motion to discuss thank you member mcampbell I believe are you doing one as well or what treasure motion would you be working on I am working on a resolution around May Day so on May Day okay so then this is for workers memorial day uh so uh want to just check in we can move those both then um is there a motion to approve 6.13 to new business motion hearing no objections 6.13 would be approved to new business with the recommendation to approve six point fourteen a resolution through our office recognizing April 15th as youth homelessness matters day motion to approve thank you if there's a motion for new business motion hearing no objections 6.14 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve six point fifteen this is a memo through member mccampbell's office regarding the contaminated dirts and resident safety we've been asked to bring this back in two weeks motion hearing no objections will be brought back in two weeks six point sixteen is a memo through member john's office relative to resolution recognizing the 2026 EPA air quality awareness week we've been asked to bring this back in two weeks motion thank you hearing no objections 6.16 will be brought back in two weeks air quality awareness week folks is in May for those of us that are interested this brings us down to member reports madam clerk I believe 6.1 is the only item we have to go back to okay um colleagues 6.1 this is the uh um environmental uh contract and um wondering if there is I think we have a lot of questions um we do have a 130 uh uh dangerous buildings hearings so i think i feel comfortable moving 6.1 back we can bring it back in two weeks we can ask the questions offline um unless there are any objections and a need to discuss 6.1 today motion we're back in two weeks hearing no objections 6.1 will be brought back in two weeks i believe that is all for our agenda we are now at member reports member waters no report member mccampbell no report uh for myself tomorrow is our last formal session before uh before recess for city council folks um so we will not have uh dang uh we will not have public health and safety next week Monday but we will be back uh in formal session uh after tomorrow on Tuesday april twenty eighth uh with that again just a reminder we have a 130 p.m uh dangerous hearing session until then we will recess until 130 p.m thank you all