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Detroit Public Health and Safety Committee Dangerous Buildings Hearing - April 20, 2026

City CouncilMonday, April 20, 2026
BodyDetroit, Michigan
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, April 20, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:00

Afternoon, everyone.

0:01

I would like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for the purposes of our dangerous buildings hearings.

0:10

May the clerk please call the roll.

0:12

Yes, good afternoon.

0:13

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

0:15

Good afternoon, present.

0:17

Councilmember Denville and McCampbell.

0:20

Councilmember Mary Waters.

0:23

Present.

0:23

Madam Chair, we have quorum.

0:25

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

0:27

Given a quorum, and I do know Member McCampbell will be joining us shortly.

0:30

We'll go right into the hearings for today.

0:34

For folks that are here for the first time, I will turn it over to the administration to share with you what you can expect from our dangerous buildings process and why you are here.

0:46

I'll turn it over to the administration to whoever can provide us that overview.

0:54

Good afternoon through the chair.

0:56

Good afternoon.

0:58

For owners of property here today, if city council orders your building to be demolished, you have the opportunity to go to the building, safety and environmental engineering department located in room 14 and request a deferral of the demolition order.

1:13

This means that you must do the following.

1:15

Provide proof of ownership or interest in the property.

1:19

Pay all required inspection fees, secure all openings on your building from trespass and the elements and remove all the exterior debris, abandoned vehicles, overgrowth, et cetera.

1:32

Pay or make arrangements regarding any delinquent city taxes.

1:36

Obtain the necessary permits to bring your building into compliance with all applicable codes and submit a completed deferral application.

1:44

Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:46

Thank you, Mr.

1:47

Washington.

1:48

I will now turn it over to LPD.

1:51

Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:52

In addition to the overview of the nature and consequences of these hearings, just provided by a representative of the administration.

1:59

People should be aware that in contrast to the more wide-ranging policy oriented discussions of the other sessions of this committee, these are legally required appellate administrative hearings from previous hearings, informal hearings with the Department of Building Safety Engineering and Environment about the approximately 80 dangerous buildings on today's dangerous buildings list.

2:19

And rather than a full discussion of all the issues, uh what the law what the law directs the committee to do is to have a hearing on the question of whether the buildings are dangerous or not, as presented by the department representatives of the department are here in order to provide due process and so that the committee is fully informed with pictures and other information from the files.

2:38

Thank you.

2:39

Thank you.

2:40

I will now turn it over to BC to introduce themselves.

2:46

Thank you, Madam Chair.

2:48

My name is Dili Portel.

2:49

Um from the building and safety uh property maintenance tape.

2:57

Thank you.

2:57

Come on, Alaska Dangerous Building Clerk.

3:01

Thank you both for joining us.

3:03

Uh Javon Perry, I am reserved in this hearing today.

3:07

I'm from DC.

3:09

All right.

3:10

Well, thanks for nice seeing you, Javon.

3:12

Thanks for joining us.

3:13

Um, you are going to be in good hands here with the team.

3:17

So thanks everyone for your introductions and your overviews.

3:20

Um, as has been shared, we are here to hear um from property owners directly.

3:28

If you are looking to prevent your house from being demolished, or if you agree to demolish the property.

3:34

Uh, if you are online and you are here for a hearing, please raise your hands now.

3:38

I will be and I see folks that are here on uh in person.

3:41

I believe I have your information.

3:43

Uh this message is for those that are online uh calling in virtually.

3:48

Please raise your hands now.

3:49

There are people here in person that I will be getting to first uh because they drove, they paid for parking.

3:55

We'll get you out.

3:56

Um, but then the people online, please raise your hand now and I will turn it over to you once we've gone through the hearings here in person.

4:03

As mentioned, there are 80 properties on our list.

4:06

I try to respect your time and give you back your day.

4:10

So if you can keep these conversations to about five minutes, uh we have been able to successfully help you or help all of us figure out what the next step is for these properties.

4:19

So we'll go ahead and do that.

4:21

After a while, the questions will become repetitive.

4:24

Everyone listening in should be prepared to answer them.

4:27

Um and that will also help us uh get through this process uh efficiently.

4:31

Uh, just so folks know the people that are at this table want to help you keep your property if you are ready to do so.

4:38

Um, but uh if your property is in bad condition, um and if there are no plans to to to help, um we often um will agree with with with property owners um if you agree to demolish it as well.

4:52

And if not, we'll try to find ways uh to to keep you um in your property, and if we can't do that, you will get to that point um if we need to.

5:00

But with that, I will begin with the folks that we have here in person.

5:08

Ms.

5:08

Khan, how many hands do we have raised online?

5:12

We have 17 hands.

5:14

Oh right.

5:15

So that's just for all of us to know.

5:18

What I'm going to do is I will be asking, I will be calling up a property owner and cueing up the next person so that we're able to move through these.

5:31

If I can please have the property owner of 3807 Fullerton come to the EPU will direct you.

5:50

If the clerk can please note you've been joined by member McCampbell.

5:53

Thank you.

5:55

Following our property owner on Fillerton, if I can please have the owner of 4574 Beldevere be queued up to speak next.

6:11

Hello, if you wouldn't mind making sure your microphone is on, there's a button in the bottom.

6:15

If you press it, you're it's green, so it's on now.

6:18

Um if you wouldn't mind sharing your name.

6:21

Uh Bobby Lynn.

6:23

Bobby Lynn, are you looking to keep your property or demolish it?

6:26

No, I'm looking to keep it.

6:28

Okay.

6:28

So then if we can turn over to B seed, B seed.

6:31

Uh we are going to, and then this is property Fullerton.

6:36

This is the seventh property under the ninth block, colleagues, 3807 Fullerton.

6:42

Um Bobby, this property is on the demolition list for demolition.

6:48

And if you're looking to save it, we're gonna turn over to B seed to let us know what needs to be addressed.

6:54

Uh B seed.

6:58

Thank you, Madam Chair.

7:00

Uh we had inspected this property on uh April 6, 2026 for this year.

7:08

We found the two-story one single family brick dwelling where can open to elements open at the second floor side windows, holes in uh uh in a roof.

7:20

Uh interior exterior all uh dilapidated uh roof structure is collapsing, roof framing falling apart, not maintained, uh trust debris on a property.

7:37

Uh they had applied the permit, but that permit had not completed yet.

7:43

Uh that's what we are here front of this committee.

7:47

Okay, thank you, B seed.

7:50

Um, Bobby, knowing all the issues with the property, what are your plans to address the problems?

7:56

Uh contracted uh uh contractor, which was supposed to send an estimate to the inspector.

8:09

The wall that uh is uh having a problem, he's gonna uh I'm hiring him to take that wall down and put it back.

8:17

Okay.

8:18

And and you pulled permits, you're hiring your you are hiring someone now.

8:23

Do you have a timeline of when you're going to be able to uh address the problems?

8:29

Um what BC is going to want you to do is to if you can't completely replace the wall or replace the roof today, that you at least uh cover it with tarp um or try to um reinforce it.

8:43

Is that something that you can do in the next few weeks?

8:46

Yes.

8:47

Okay.

8:48

Um to B seed, how long have we had this property uh in on the pipeline?

8:55

Uh thank you, madam chair.

8:57

Uh, this property, the history start since 2023.

9:03

Uh the we also recently had held the administrative hearing on uh November 12, 2025.

9:13

Uh property owner had appeared to the hearing.

9:18

Uh and we saw the some you know, some request for the repairing the property.

9:25

So we had provided the extra time on that, and we uh recon with that hearing on November 24, 2025.

9:37

And the hearing officer conclude that the the here the owner had not step up to uh a bid the violation, and that time the hearing officer had it requested to have this hearing.

9:55

Okay, understood.

9:56

Thank you.

9:57

Uh so Mr.

10:00

Bobby, what I'm trying to avoid is having you come back here or having the city demolish your property.

10:04

Um so the roof will need to be tarped, uh the debris needs to be picked up.

10:09

Um I had my son picking up some of that debris to today.

10:13

Okay.

10:13

So I I think um your son will also need to have uh figure out a way to tarp the roof or try to find a way to do so.

10:23

Um because if we give you more time, um I'm I'm trying to get the date of our I don't know what if we set our hearing for our next dangerous buildings hearings yet.

10:32

Um but for the next because we we're gonna have more this year.

10:36

Um and we what we want to avoid is is having your property back here.

10:40

We want to give you the time that you need to to to repair it.

10:45

You give me a month to make a difference.

10:47

Okay.

10:48

If we give you that time, um, if we decide to give you that time, you will need to show proof.

10:54

And there is and there is, and as you mentioned, I I think you mentioned that there's pictures being taken.

10:59

If not, just so folks to know, if we if we decide to give you more time to address your property, this email address is one that you will need to email uh that pro uh that progress to uh so pictures will need to be taken of all four sides of your property, and you need to sh send those pictures uh with your address, uh stating that you've addressed the issues uh to that email address.

11:24

Once that happens, an inspector will be sent back to your property to look at the property again um and continue to give you feedback if there's other things that that you need to address.

11:33

Um but sir, if we do that, progress needs to be made because then it becomes incredibly difficult for us when we hear BC tell us that residents around the property are complaining about the property because it's burnt or exposed or dangerous, and I that's the balance that that we have to hold here.

11:50

Um so if we give you more time, would you be able to address those those issues in the immediate if you give me a month?

11:58

Uh I think I can make a difference.

12:00

Okay.

12:01

Uh we will put the address back on on the screen.

12:04

Are you able to jot it down?

12:05

Do you have that email address?

12:07

Uh I don't I don't believe I do, madam.

12:12

Uh uh is it on is it on this uh letter?

12:17

I'm I'm not sure, but it's it's online, it it's on the screen now.

12:20

Uh so you'd either have to write it down or take a picture of it, but this is the email that you will need.

12:26

Um I can call the inspector and get it right.

12:28

You could, yes, you could.

12:30

I think from him too.

12:32

Okay from him.

12:33

Okay.

12:33

B seed.

12:35

Uh Madam Chair, yes, we've been communicating with the property owner on this one.

12:40

Um most we need is the the permit and repair has to be started soon, as you stated.

12:48

Okay.

12:49

So we're gonna give you some more time, sir.

12:51

Um is there a motion to send this back to BC.

12:55

Motion.

12:56

Hearing no objections, 3807 Fullerton will be sent back to BC.

13:01

You have the uh the email there, sir.

13:04

Um as soon as you can, please address the issues and then send those pictures to that email address, okay?

13:10

I will.

13:11

Okay.

13:12

Um and please do stay in contact with the inspector.

13:15

Thank you for coming down, sir.

13:16

Anything else for us?

13:18

No.

13:19

Okay.

13:19

I hope you have a blessed day, all right.

13:21

Thank you very much.

13:22

Thank you.

13:22

Uh, we will now hear from and then we sent we agreed to send Fullerton back to B seed.

13:28

We will now hear from 4574 Beldevere, if you wouldn't mind sharing your name, sir.

13:34

Uh my name is Ralph Armstrong.

13:36

Rail?

13:36

Yes.

13:37

Ral, uh, your property, Beldevere has been withdrawn.

13:42

Uh so 4574 Beldevere has been withdrawn, meaning it has been removed from demolition list, meaning that you have addressed the issues.

13:50

Thank you.

13:51

Uh we have some notes here.

13:52

BC.

13:54

Uh thank you, madam chair.

13:55

Uh yeah, we've been dealing with Mr.

13:58

Armstrong for a while.

14:00

Uh that's good that the Mr.

14:03

Armstrong had thus put the tarp over the entire roof uh and window.

14:10

Uh but this temporary measure.

14:13

We would like to have the permit for the roof repairs uh and the side of that window repair as soon as possible, and we like to have the Mr.

14:24

Armstrong start the repairing this roof.

14:27

We cannot have the tarp.

14:29

Uh this tarp is since September 2025.

14:33

Okay.

14:34

Uh that's the very temporary measure to secure the the hole or roof.

14:41

Uh it looks more blighted than not having that.

14:46

Uh so yeah, we would like to have see this roof get repaired soon.

14:52

Okay.

14:52

Thank you.

14:53

Thank you, BC.

14:54

Sir, thank you for addressing the issue in the immediate.

15:00

Um, but as I shared earlier, uh, the sooner you're able to make the full repair, the better, and you won't be seen here again.

15:04

Um, and and really why we're here is because as you know, and let's be honest, some of the properties that need help our city owned properties.

15:12

Um, but but this is a process that that we ask property owners to to help us maintain our our our all of our properties.

15:18

So would you be able to begin to address the work?

15:21

Yes, a matter of fact, uh I've inherited a mess.

15:25

Okay.

15:25

I just want to be I'll be very brief.

15:27

I've paid all the taxes.

15:28

Okay.

15:29

I got it from my brother.

15:31

Uh there's no liens on the property.

15:34

I cleaned the lots.

15:35

Okay.

15:36

I took two trucks of debris.

15:38

I put a 10 mil tarp, industrial tarp on the roof, and uh I did the porch myself, and I plan on getting a roofing company to do the roof.

15:48

But he left me with I've I've put over 15 grand in this place.

15:53

Okay.

15:53

So I'm I'm determined to get a new roof and live there again.

15:57

All right.

15:58

That's my goal.

15:59

That's it's historic.

16:00

My father was a famous musician, and we're gonna make it work.

16:03

I'm gonna fix it.

16:04

Okay.

16:04

Well, thank you, Mr.

16:05

Armstrong.

16:06

Right, thank you.

16:07

Good luck with that.

16:08

Um, is there a motion to withdraw 4574 Beldevere from the dangerous buildings list?

16:16

Hearing no objections, this property is withdrawn.

16:18

Thank you, sir.

16:19

Have a blessing.

16:20

Thank you very much.

16:21

I will now hear from the property owner of 1333 Graschett.

16:27

Please join us up here.

16:29

And then I'm going to ask everyone online if you are on with us.

16:33

We will turn it over to you next.

16:35

Are you also here for a hearing?

16:36

Yeah.

16:37

Okay.

16:37

Uh, we are almost going to turn it off.

16:40

Uh turn it over to our online folks.

16:42

So if you're online, please raise your hand now.

16:44

I have two more um in-person uh property owners.

16:48

What is your name?

16:52

Quinton, please make sure your microphone is turned on.

16:56

Oh okay.

16:57

Yes.

16:58

Uh my name is Quincy Jones.

17:00

Quincy.

17:01

All right, Quincy.

17:02

Thank you for being here.

17:03

And you are here to discuss one three three three four Gratchett.

17:08

Yes.

17:09

All right, Quincy.

17:10

Thankfully, your property, this is the third property under the tenth block.

17:14

It has also been withdrawn.

17:15

So you have addressed the problems that were shared with you by BC.

17:19

But I'll turn it over to BC.

17:20

If you have any other notes to share.

17:23

Um, thank you, madam chair.

17:25

Yes, we are working.

17:26

This properties belongs to us, Bournemouth Alliance.

17:29

Okay.

17:30

Uh on the East Side.

17:32

Uh, we we are working with this organization.

17:36

Uh I believe that office is uh on the same block or next block nearby this.

17:43

Uh they have applied the permit.

17:46

Uh had not approved yet, but after talking to Mr.

17:52

Jones, uh they they have the engineer on the board, and they are uh uh had provided the drawings and it sees so it is on the process, and we are hoping that this this building gets the new life.

18:08

We do too.

18:09

So thank you.

18:10

Thank you so much.

18:10

Yep.

18:11

So we're working hard to get the building done to be a community center.

18:14

And we've been doing work in Osborne for about 15 years.

18:16

So this would be a headquarters, also a pop-up spot for small businesses, and just uh, you know, a safe place for the community.

18:23

So we're we're moving forward now.

18:25

All right.

18:26

So thank you so much, City Council, for all your hard work and just believing in us.

18:30

So thank you.

18:30

No, of course, thank you.

18:32

Uh, thank you for your work.

18:33

We appreciate it.

18:34

Uh so hearing no issues or concerns, is there a motion to concur to withdraw Graschet?

18:41

Hearing no objections, we agreed to withdraw this from demolition list.

18:45

Thank you for coming then.

18:46

And then also to BC, thank you so much as well, too, for working with us.

18:50

Yes, thank you.

18:51

All right, have a blessed day, sir.

18:53

Um, ma'am, if you wouldn't mind taking the seats, making sure your microphone is on, and then once it is, if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself and letting us know which property you're here to discuss.

19:04

Portland Healing, 8138, Great Steel.

19:10

8138 East Grisdale.

19:13

Yes.

19:14

This is the fourth property under the 10th block.

19:16

Ma'am, this property has also been withdrawn.

19:19

So thank you for addressing any issues with the property.

19:22

BC, do you have any notes for 8138 East Grixdale?

19:30

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

19:31

Uh 8138 East Grigsdale.

19:35

Uh it has the interior fire on this property, and we need the permit to uh repair this fire uh damage uh inside the property.

19:46

Uh we would like to have this permit probably within next 15 days or so.

19:52

Okay.

19:52

All right.

19:53

Well, thank you for that note, B seed.

19:56

Um really sorry to hear if you experienced a fire.

20:00

I know that's a really hard thing to try to navigate.

20:02

Please continue to just make sure the property is um uh boarded up, maintained.

20:10

It's more than boarded up, just right.

20:14

So if it it's so that's why you're I mean I've been doing stuff outside of the house.

20:19

Yeah.

20:20

Because I live in a house.

20:21

That's why I can't understand why I'm still on his list.

20:24

Because I live in my house, and I'm fixing the out my house as I live in it.

20:29

Okay.

20:30

And um, yeah, I could my problem is uh I want to look stop charge me.

20:40

I came out here on um February March, April, February the 9th, and February 10th, they charge me 168 for coming out.

20:50

How can you charge me 168 dollars for coming out the next day?

20:54

I just got out of court, I wasn't even out of court.

20:56

24 hours.

20:58

And then it's another one.

20:59

Come on now.

21:05

So why they kick up I leave here on the ninth and I get a ticket on the 10th.

21:13

How is that?

21:15

That's the same question that I have for for BC for the departments because we we hear this often, ma'am.

21:21

I how do you expect me to fix my house if I'm still paying you?

21:25

Don't make don't make me your paycheck.

21:29

I I don't got enough money to make me your paycheck.

21:32

Oh, look, or you can make me your paycheck, let me come live with you.

21:36

So uh the biggest problem that I have, there's a lot of things there, but if you're living in this property, you should not be here in general.

21:44

And I that guess what you see it.

21:46

Yes.

21:47

On February the 9th.

21:49

So then why are you here?

21:50

Because I don't know.

21:52

Okay, so that's a question that we're gonna do.

21:54

What you said was on February the 9th, you said you are the fourth person that said that you live in this property and live in your property and you should not be here.

22:04

And I was the fourth person, and I live in my property, and every time I get every time that put one of these notices on my thing, they mess with my mail.

22:13

So they says, Oh, you don't live here because the city council city of Detroit says you don't live here.

22:19

So I have to go down and argue with the postal people to give me back my mail.

22:25

All right, so ma'am.

22:26

I know it's not you.

22:28

But this how I gotta vent because I got nobody else because it's not me.

22:35

So thank you.

22:36

I'm with you.

22:37

I'm with you.

22:37

And it's and it's frustrating, and we're trying to figure that out.

22:40

We're asking for systems and processes so that we're able to see when you're receiving these notices because I also don't know what you're receiving and what's going on on that end.

22:49

So today, because we also have more people waiting online.

22:55

If you wouldn't mind, your property is being withdrawn.

22:59

I'm gonna have someone from my team come by and speak with you just to give us the history a little bit more of the communications is what's going on.

23:05

I see that you're in district four, so we're gonna also wrap in member Johnson's office and we'll work on this together because for me as the chair, I want to make sure that we are communicating properly with residents.

23:15

And I think Member Johnson as your council member wants to make sure that you're taken care of as well.

23:20

So I I will ask someone for my team to come down and get this um the history from you for us to get a little bit more clarity.

23:27

Because ma'am, that is one of the things that we're told by B seed.

23:31

Is if the property is occupied, they cannot be on the dangerous buildings.

23:35

So that is a huge problem.

23:37

And and if it's still happening, it's still not being addressed, obviously.

23:41

So thank you for coming down.

23:43

Um I appreciate it.

23:45

No, of course, and and I and I need to know the experiences of of the public, so thank you.

23:50

Um, folks, this has been withdrawn.

23:52

Is there a motion to concur to withdraw Grixdale?

23:55

Motion Hearing no objections, we concur to withdraw.

23:59

And then, ma'am, if you wouldn't mind um hanging out, someone from my team will come speak with you, okay?

24:04

Madam Chair.

24:05

Thank you.

24:05

Member McCampbell.

24:06

I believe she's in district three.

24:08

District three.

24:09

Okay.

24:10

I looked it up, it said four.

24:12

Um I'm not sure if it changed with the new district, but good to know.

24:18

Maybe I wrote it down wrong.

24:20

Oh, I think I put the I just put Grasshaft, not East.

24:22

So I think you might be right.

24:24

Okay.

24:25

Um did just head out.

24:29

Hopefully, someone from my team can talk to her.

24:31

You were speaking with someone in the hall.

24:33

Oh, perfect.

24:33

Okay, excellent.

24:35

Thanks, everyone.

24:36

Okay.

24:36

So I believe that's everyone here in person.

24:40

So what we'll do now is we're turning it over to the folks that we have online.

24:43

Uh, how many hands do we have now?

24:46

And who do we have first?

24:49

So we have 18 hands.

24:52

And in the order of appearance, we're gonna have Sam Jacer come first, followed by um Edric Jensen.

25:00

Jenkins.

25:02

Sam Jaser, you are up next.

25:04

If you wouldn't mind unmuting yourself, you're going to be made a panelist and letting us know which property you're here to discuss.

25:12

Thank you, Sam.

25:13

One second.

25:13

If I can have who was the next person, Edric?

25:17

Edric last name.

25:19

Edric Jenkins.

25:20

Edric Jenkins, you are on deck.

25:22

So we're gonna call you after Sam.

25:24

Sam, uh good afternoon.

25:27

Which property are you here to discuss?

25:30

Yeah, so sorry, there's a bit of uh uh echoing.

25:36

It's been happening since you guys started online, but I am with uh one eight six two five review revere, I think is what I heard revere, uh one eight six two five revere.

25:58

Yes, all right.

25:59

This is the seventh property under the 13th block.

26:02

Uh sir.

26:03

This has been withdrawn.

26:04

So thank you for addressing the issues uh uh that were associated with this pro uh with this property.

26:09

Do you have any questions for us?

26:12

No, thank you so much.

26:15

Thank you.

26:15

We are trying.

26:16

Is there a motion to concur to withdraw 18625 revere?

26:20

Motion hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw this property.

26:24

Thank you, Sam, for addressing the problems and good luck uh with maintaining properties.

26:29

We all know how hard it is.

26:30

Uh, we will now hear from Edric Jenkins, followed by um Shannon Clenn Clemens.

26:39

Followed by Shannon Clemens.

26:41

Edric, can you hear us?

26:45

Yes.

26:46

Wonderful.

26:47

We can hear you.

26:47

Which property are you calling us about?

26:50

1922 Harnet.

26:54

19 22 Harned.

26:58

This is the fifth property under the 10th block.

27:01

This has also been withdrawn.

27:03

Thank you for addressing the immediate needs.

27:05

Do you have any questions for us?

27:08

Um why do you keep giving these notices?

27:10

I'm trying to figure out why I keep getting these notices.

27:12

You sent it over to BC, and a week later I got another notice.

27:17

There are peer again.

27:19

That is uh that's a problem that we are trying to address with BC.

27:23

Uh, are you saying that you received multiple notices for the same issue?

27:27

This is the second time.

27:29

You sent it over to BC.

27:31

Um, I think that was in February.

27:33

All right, April, April.

27:34

Sure, sure.

27:35

February or April.

27:36

So so just to be clear, I did not BC'd sent that over to you.

27:39

So B seed sent over the notices to you, yes.

27:42

And what I'm trying to figure out is what notices they sent to you.

27:46

Was it for was it a duplicate notice, or did you address the issue and then and then you got the same notice again?

27:55

No, I never get a chance to address the issues, but I have I had one over there and cleaned up a lot of stuff.

28:00

I didn't finish everything, but they sent me this notice and said it was on a dim listen again.

28:05

Okay, and I don't know why, but you sent it to BC.

28:08

When I first my first appearance, it was sent over to BC.

28:12

So then it oh, so you're I I see what you're talking about.

28:15

So I you have been in the dangerous buildings before.

28:19

Yes, this is the second notice.

28:21

And if you are here again, did we we did we withdraw your property last time?

28:28

Yes, yes.

28:29

I mean I'm I'm getting headshakes that we didn't.

28:32

So if we did not withdraw your property last time and you're here again, it's because they went back and inspected and they saw issues.

28:40

To your point, though, I'm wondering if you did not receive enough time to address the issues, and then you got a notice, and now we are here.

28:50

Um, ma'am, just okay, it's been withdrawn.

28:53

So that means that you did address your issues, correct?

28:56

Some of the issues, yes, I did.

28:58

Okay, so then I guess this is this is the problem, BC.

29:02

We're we're trying to figure out how much time we are giving the public then to address the issues because I agree with them.

29:08

Time is needed, so is money that we don't have.

29:12

How are we helping people?

29:14

Um, give them the time to address their issues.

29:16

Because I'm gonna be honest, from when I started here in city council to where we are now, we have seen the most amount of withdrawans.

29:23

I think people are really beginning to know that we need to be working on these, right?

29:27

Things are getting, I believe, better, but still we need to address this communication lack.

29:33

Um, so Ms.

29:35

Jenkins, I I hear you today.

29:38

You have this property is being withdrawn.

29:41

Um, I hear from BC though that the prior time that you were here, I think we gave you more time.

29:46

And actually, that would make sense if we sent you to BC, that means that we gave you more time to address the issues and and you did so.

29:53

You addressed the problems, and now you're here, and the property has been removed.

30:00

Um, but I understand how it that can be confusing and frustrating, but you're here again because it sounds like not all the issues were addressed.

30:06

Enough of them were addressed to remove you from a dangerous buildings list.

30:09

Um, but to BC, do you have any notes for this property?

30:14

Uh thank you, madam chair.

30:16

Uh yeah, but the property is still it uh open to elements at the rear windows, parsley barricade those window property is part damaged on the rear elevator.

30:31

Uh that the permit had not been pulled yet.

30:34

Uh dwelling is not maintained, but still window open, mortar joint in the front port.

30:42

Uh so in order to do that, I think we still looking for some work being done by the property owner to maintain it.

30:52

Um but we are recommend we had recommend the withdrawn.

30:58

Okay.

30:59

Uh so yeah.

31:00

Okay, thank you, BC.

31:02

So, Ms.

31:02

Jenkins, it sounds like there are still needs that need to be addressed for the property.

31:07

You have addressed the immediate concerns.

31:10

Uh, so B seed has released this property from the dangerous buildings list.

31:14

So, moving forward, as long as you continue to maintain your your property, you should not receive any any other notices or or flags from the city.

31:24

Um, because you have done enough right now to and and they've seen the progress.

31:28

So thank you for making that progress.

31:30

Um, but um I I do believe that is it sounds like that's what happens.

31:37

We gave you more time, you're here now, and now your property has been removed from the dangerous buildings list.

31:44

Okay, thank you.

31:45

No problem.

31:46

I know it's confusing and frustrating.

31:48

Um, but thank you so much for for doing what you did to withdraw.

31:51

Um, I believe have we already voted to concur to withdraw?

31:57

Motion to the address.

31:59

The address, I believe, was harness.

32:01

Yes.

32:02

Okay.

32:03

I don't think we voted.

32:05

Is there a motion?

32:07

Okay.

32:09

There is a motion to withdraw.

32:10

Hearing no objections.

32:12

1922 harness has been removed from dangerous buildings list.

32:17

Thank you guys so much.

32:18

Good luck.

32:20

Thank you.

32:21

I will move us along now to Shannon Clemens, followed by followed by Jennifer Oliver.

32:29

Jennifer Oliver, you're going to be on deck.

32:32

Shannon, can you hear us?

32:33

Yes, I hear you.

32:35

Uh, which property are you calling us about?

32:37

One 4417 promenade Detroit, Michigan.

32:43

One four four one seven promenade.

32:47

Yes, ma'am.

32:48

This property has also been withdrawn.

32:50

Shannon, thank you for addressing the immediate needs to B Seed.

32:54

Are there any notes for this property?

32:56

Thank you.

32:57

Um, Madam Chair.

32:59

Uh we had communicated with the property on our uh via email.

33:04

Uh Mr.

33:06

Snoof uh Putins, and they do have the permit issued, so we are good at that.

33:12

Thank you.

33:13

Okay, thank you, B seed.

33:15

Uh, hearing that, colleagues, is there a motion to withdraw promenade from the dangerous buildings list?

33:20

Motion.

33:20

Hearing no objections, we will remove it from the list.

33:22

Thank you, Shannon, for your work.

33:24

Do you have any questions for us?

33:26

No, ma'am.

33:27

Thank you so much.

33:28

All right, no problem.

33:29

Have a blessed day.

33:30

We will now hear from Jennifer Oliver, followed by Brian Lochlin, followed by Brian Lochlin.

33:39

You are on deck.

33:40

Jennifer, can you hear us?

33:42

I sure can.

33:43

Which property are you calling us about?

33:46

Um, I actually have two.

33:47

I bought them at the same time from the last year's tax option from the land bank.

33:52

The first one is 2016 Yakima.

33:59

Okay.

34:01

And the second one is 11701 Winthrop.

34:05

Okay.

34:07

So Winthrope.

34:11

So the first property, we can take these uh one by one, two zero one six seven Yakima.

34:17

This is the 10th property under the 15th block.

34:20

Uh Jennifer, this has been removed from the dangerous buildings list.

34:24

So thank you for addressing the immediate needs.

34:26

Uh, do you have any questions for this property?

34:30

I do.

34:30

Um, I got um it's kind of on the same lines.

34:34

Um, I started getting um fines before I even owned this because I just got my deed in December.

34:42

Um there how do I go about getting that resolved?

34:47

Because there's like there's one on here from May of 25.

34:51

I didn't even get the deed until December.

34:55

Oh ma'am.

34:57

I'm gonna I'm gonna ask that you please email my office.

35:02

Um because we really are, and this is for anyone listening in because I'm sure everyone has your own experiences or stories around communication.

35:10

Um, but I would really like for for this to no longer be a problem.

35:14

Um, and I we have to figure it out.

35:16

So my email, ma'am, whenever you're ready.

35:18

Yep, I'm all set.

35:19

It's council member.

35:22

Council member.

35:24

Okay.

35:25

Gabriella, G-A-B-R-I-E-L-A.

35:30

G A B R I E L A E L A, okay.

35:37

And that's going to be at Detroit M I.gov.

35:41

Detroit M I.gov.

35:44

Okay.

35:44

And this is for anyone that wants to share with us your experiences on on communication.

35:50

If you just bought a property and suddenly you see that you have tickets.

35:54

Um, if you just left a hearing and the next day you you get a ticket, please let us know.

35:59

Because unfortunately, what what I have heard is that it's it's too bad.

36:04

People have to pay it.

36:05

Um, so I would like to get to a point where that doesn't happen because we have a process in place where you're not receiving tickets after you just purchased a property.

36:14

Um, if we're not gonna help people after the fact.

36:17

Um, so thank you for that.

36:19

Um there's nothing else for Yakima.

36:24

The other property okay.

36:26

So the other property you mentioned was 11701 Winthrop.

36:31

That's correct.

36:32

This is on the dangerous buildings list.

36:34

So we are going to turn it over to B seed uh to pull up the uh property and let us know what issues still need to be addressed, okay?

36:42

Okay, okay.

36:43

So BC, whenever you're ready.

37:01

And then we're still here.

37:02

It's just uh silence as we pull up the information.

37:27

Oh, maybe I will.

37:55

And just to know for folks listening, we are still here.

37:58

BC.

37:59

Thank you, madam chair.

38:00

Uh, sorry about the delay.

38:03

Uh we had inspected this property on uh April 9, 2026.

38:13

Uh single family one and a half story prime dwelling.

38:18

We're gonna open to trespass and elements.

38:22

Them as open print entry and open them aside windows, pile them as evidence on the second floor and print them as to water.

38:33

Water is running in the basement.

38:36

Uh plotting the entry uh uh but misses is has the stress and debris, and that's what we are print of this uh committee to get secure the demon is an order.

38:50

Okay, thank you, Inspector.

38:52

Thank you, Patel.

38:54

Um Jennifer, I wonder if you have already addressed any of these issues or if you would be able to at least address um the overgrowth, the debris and the openings to the property.

39:11

Uh yes, I actually did meet a contractor over there last week, and um I do have a full list of items that I've hired him to do so I can address this first and make sure that everything is secure, cleaned up and um all the debris gone, everything.

39:34

Okay.

39:35

Um, and you have a contractor.

39:39

You were able to address the other property, so I feel confident that you'll be able to address this one as well.

39:44

Uh, were you able to take pictures of the email address?

39:49

I uh no, sorry about that.

39:52

Oh, good.

39:53

So we will put B seed's email back on the screen.

39:57

This is for anyone still listening.

40:00

If you know that your property still needs some help, uh some things to to address, and that you need to go back to BC.

40:05

If we can exit, please on the all tools to make um the email itself bigger.

40:13

It's on the sorry, on the PDF.

40:16

Yes, thank you.

40:18

Great, thank you.

40:19

So now everyone online, you can see the email.

40:22

This is the email that you want to send uh pictures of all four sides of your property showing the progress that you've made to address the issues.

40:32

Uh so Jennifer, when you have this down, you can screenshot it, jot it down, but this is what you'll want to send uh pictures of your property to once you've addressed those immediate issues.

40:42

Okay, thank you.

40:44

Okay, is there a motion to send Winthrop back to B seed?

40:47

Motion hearing no objections, it will send this property back to B seed.

40:51

Uh Jennifer, do you have any anything else that you need us to address?

40:56

Uh no, thank you for your time.

40:58

No problem.

40:58

Thank you.

40:59

Have a good rest of your day.

41:01

We will now hear from Brian Lockhart, followed by Brian Lochlin followed by Tori Smith.

41:09

Brian Lochland, followed by Tori Smith.

41:12

Brian, can you hear us?

41:14

Yes, I can.

41:15

Thank you.

41:15

Which property are you here to discuss?

41:19

16165 washburn.

41:22

This is the sixth property under the 15th block.

41:25

This has been withdrawn.

41:27

Thank you for addressing the immediate needs.

41:29

Do you have any questions for us?

41:31

No, I just wanted to thank Chief Patel, Inspector Wilson and Director Bell for their professionalism.

41:36

Uh I guess throughout this process.

41:38

Uh also um wanted to just note that the payment was requested, but uh it should have been processed.

41:45

Uh that's how we got this certificate.

41:47

And um, it should show on their elaps system.

41:50

So I'm just a little confused on um the invoicing, that's all.

41:55

But I can I can do with it on that department level.

41:58

Okay, well, thank you, Brian.

42:00

Appreciate that.

42:01

And thank you, BC.

42:02

Um, is there a motion to concur to withdraw Washburn?

42:07

Motion.

42:08

Hearing no objections, we agreed to withdraw one six one six five washburn from the dangerous buildings list.

42:15

Thank you, Brian.

42:18

We will now hear from Tori Smith followed by followed by Alexis Lee.

42:24

Followed by Alexis Lee.

42:26

Tori, can you hear us?

42:27

Yes.

42:28

Which property are you here to discuss?

42:30

5012, Helen.

42:36

This is the eighth property under the 10th block.

42:39

Tori, this property is on the dangerous buildings list.

42:42

52 5012 Helen.

42:45

We're gonna uh turn it over to BC to pull information on this property and to let us know what needs to be addressed, and then we'll turn it over to you, okay?

42:55

Okay, okay.

43:39

Thank you, madam chair.

43:41

Uh we had inspected this property on April 8 2026 for this year.

43:49

We found two story frame dwelling.

43:53

Uh we're gonna open at the second floor windows, open sidebar and wall.

44:00

Uh open at the rear door, open them is roof, you're not maintained, and that's what you are pleased to uh requesting to have the demolition order.

44:12

Okay, thank you, Chief.

44:15

Uh Tori, uh there are a lot of openings and overgrowth and debris.

44:21

Have you addressed any of these issues yet?

44:23

So do you plan to?

44:24

But yeah, I was out there this weekend.

44:26

I had already talked to BC on the phone.

44:27

A young lady told me that um the windows and things were open.

44:31

I just uh tie in the house.

44:33

Not even two months ago, good.

44:36

So this weekend I was out there and we got all the stuff uh all the windows and that that back door and all that is all boarded up now.

44:43

I sent the pictures into that uh email address that you keep putting up.

44:46

Okay, great.

44:47

So then you are ahead of the curve.

44:50

Um colleagues, any questions?

44:52

Um, Tori, it seems like you are then willing to make the changes.

44:56

Do you have a timeline at all?

45:00

But do you have a sense of when you'll be able to uh uh do any of the full maintenance for it?

45:05

Yeah, I'm trying to um get funding for it right now.

45:08

So I'm just waiting to hear back from some people.

45:10

Uh like I say, I just got it, but it's like it's all closed up, so I'm trying to get to work on it now.

45:16

Okay, understood.

45:18

Well, thank you for that.

45:19

Um problem.

45:21

Folks, are there any questions?

45:22

If not, is there a motion to send 5012?

45:25

Wait, are we speaking about Helen?

45:27

Yes.

45:27

Yeah.

45:27

Is there a reason?

45:28

Is there a motion to send 5012 back to BCD?

45:32

Hearing no objection 5012, Helen will be sent back to BC.

45:37

Tori, this means that they're going to review the property again.

45:40

Um, and let you know if there's any other issues, and if not, this property should be removed from the dangerous buildings list.

45:45

Okay.

45:46

Okay.

45:46

Sounds great.

45:47

All right.

45:48

Well, if there are no other questions, have a blessed day.

45:50

You also thank you.

45:52

Thank you.

45:53

We will now hear from Alexis Lee followed by followed by S a Sheik.

45:58

S a sheep, you are on deck.

46:02

Alexis, can you hear us?

46:06

Hello, how are you?

46:07

Good.

46:07

How are you?

46:09

Good.

46:09

Which property are you here to discuss?

46:12

18646 St.

46:14

Louis.

46:18

18648 St.

46:20

Louis.

46:20

This is the fifth property under the 14th block.

46:24

Uh I'm sorry, it's 18646.

46:26

Is that what you said?

46:28

Probably not.

46:28

I might have made a mistake.

46:30

I don't recall, but that is correct.

46:32

Uh, we do have that on our list.

46:33

18646, St.

46:36

Louis.

46:37

Um, this property is on the dangerous buildings list for demolition.

46:42

So we're gonna turn it over to BC to pull information on on this property.

46:47

Alexis, are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

46:51

So the property has been sold as of 23 20 26.

46:59

Um, if it's been sold, are you the property owner?

47:03

I am not.

47:04

I was the previous property owner, but I have been getting some of the recent certified notifications.

47:10

But what's interesting is I didn't receive any notifications that repairs needed to be made any time of the point that I was holding the property.

47:19

I just actually received a certified letter on 4-3.

47:24

And I just happened to call today and they told me we had a hearing.

47:28

I didn't receive notification of this hearing.

47:33

Okay, but I I'm not the owner, but I'm just I wanted to get on, and I have already I talked to us, I want to say his name is McGrill earlier today, and I sent him over the settlement and statements and everything showing that I sold it on two three.

47:48

My concern was though, as they're going through this, I have uh quite a few other properties in Detroit, and the notification process is not consistent at all.

47:57

Um, and you start to receive fines within days of purchasing a property, or they don't even know the deed has transferred over.

48:06

It just I feel like there needs to be some kind of consistent process that shows that once you receive your deed has been transferred over, you have X amount of days to complete the repairs because if you're buying properties for this from the city, and the city has owned it for years and years and years and hasn't done anything.

48:24

Now that they have an actual owner, it's not fair to just immediately start finding those people when people are trying to do repairs.

48:31

But as an investor, there is a very delicate balance between completing repairs and it being financially feasible because you're not gonna just run in and put $80,000 into a property if it's not gonna appraise or be worth that.

48:47

Thank you, Alexis.

48:48

Um, this is very helpful.

48:50

Um, would you happen to know who the new property owner is?

48:55

I do.

48:55

Let me pull up the settlement.

48:57

And and no need, just wanted to make sure that that you know, I I guess I guess I don't know.

49:03

I mean, I don't know.

49:04

It was just a regular real estate transaction.

49:06

I have their company name, so I don't really have their contact information.

49:09

I could probably um get in touch with their agent that they use to let them know, like, hey, something is coming down, they might want to get moving on it.

49:17

Um yeah, that that's the only reason why I mentioned it because my concern is that they're not the ones receiving this information, and they are the new property owners that should be addressing this.

49:26

And and my biggest concern for for for this whole time is that your property, this this property can be salvaged, and it's it's it's a house that we need desperately in the city.

49:36

Um, so I I hear you.

49:39

Um I I hear everyone, and a part of me wants to do a moratorium on demos until we figure this out.

49:47

Pause all demos until we figure this out because this is we are demolishing, and I've heard the stories of people that either just bought the property or they just had their fire, and they don't have money to fix it, or they just need time to fix it.

50:03

And and I'm really beginning like with the administration.

50:06

I know they're listening.

50:07

This is I think a top priority for a new processing system because this happens way too often, and I am grateful that we've been working with BC and the properties.

50:17

When I first started, they were over 200 properties that we were demolishing it every month.

50:23

We are now doing this every quarter.

50:25

It's less, but it's still too much.

50:26

It's it's still too much of a problem for me.

50:29

Um so Miss Lee, thank you.

50:32

Uh, but obviously, I I think there's this this needs to be this we need to do something.

50:37

Member Waters.

50:39

Return to BC to return it to BC and give her an opportunity to send a note or something to the to the owner.

50:47

It just wouldn't be fair to demolish it right now because they the new owner doesn't even know about it.

50:53

Yeah, so I uh so motion to return to BC, Madam Chair.

50:58

Thank you, Member Waters.

50:59

There's a motion to send one eight six four six St.

51:02

Louis back to BC.

51:04

Discussion.

51:05

Discussion, member McCampbell.

51:07

Thank you.

51:07

Uh I agree with the motion.

51:09

I'm just wondering.

51:10

Um, I know this is to your point, madam chair, but this is two recently bought properties.

51:18

Like, is there a is there in like code or such that we're giving folks a gray spirit for when they buy a property and does the department get that notification?

51:30

Like I know it's like the transfer D's happens in the um register D's office and such, but I'm just like, where is that connection?

51:39

Yeah, that when somebody buys a home that it's like okay, is there a gray spirit for the city?

51:44

What happens there?

51:45

Is it automatic?

51:46

Does somebody have to reach out?

51:47

Like what's I know this is also with the pre-inspections on it, but yeah, I just this I just need clarification on that.

51:55

Pre-inspections would be great right now, then because then I think that might help us a little bit more with making sure properties are maintained, especially before they're sold.

52:05

Um, that they are ready.

52:07

Um, Chief Patel, just curious.

52:10

Would you happen to know if a property once has been actually no?

52:14

I we can't try to solve this problem right now.

52:16

People are waiting.

52:17

Uh, but we need to solve this problem.

52:20

Uh so and this is a conversation that we are going to continue.

52:24

Um, so this property has been sent back to BC.

52:28

Chief Patel would love to meet with you um after recess, because this week is recessed for council.

52:35

Um, and let's sit down and talk about these processes and communication because I really want to help.

52:41

I I and I, you know, hearing someone say thank you, B seed for helping us.

52:44

I know that you do.

52:45

I know that if there's someone willing to do the work, you're willing to work with them, but there's still this missing piece of communication that I really want to get right for all of us.

52:53

Um, so for now, Miss Lee, thank you.

52:57

This property will be sent back to BC.

52:59

We are complete the motion.

53:01

Oh, thank you.

53:02

Hearing no objections.

53:04

St.

53:05

Louis will be sent back to BC.

53:07

Uh, we will have a conversation around communication.

53:10

Um, and we'll continue to work on this issue.

53:13

Um, but Miss Lee, do you have any other questions or comments for us?

53:17

No, thank you very much.

53:19

Thank you.

53:21

I will move us along, folks, to Sashik, followed by followed by Antonio Jones, followed by Antonio Jones.

53:32

You are on deck.

53:34

Sashik, can you hear us?

53:37

Yes.

53:38

Which property are you here to discuss?

53:41

One three two three one Conan Street, Detroit.

53:52

Can you repeat the street name again?

53:55

Mohammed Shik Street.

53:57

Corn it street.

53:58

I'm sorry, Cornet Street.

54:01

You said three one, Chief?

54:03

Yeah, one three two three one cannon.

54:10

Ninth block.

54:17

Where's my ninth block?

54:19

Ah, that's okay.

54:21

Thank you.

54:22

Um ninth block.

54:26

Connet, thank you.

54:27

Okay, so this is the first property on the ninth block.

54:31

One three two three one con this property is up for demolition.

54:37

So we're gonna ask BC to pull up the information and to let us know what is still needed.

54:43

B seed.

55:00

B seed and then, sir, did you mention your name is Mohammed?

55:17

Yeah, Mohammed Ash.

55:19

All right, Mohammed, do you are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

55:23

Keep.

55:24

Okay.

55:25

All right, then we're gonna hear from BC uh what needs to be addressed.

55:28

BC.

55:29

Thank you, madam chair.

55:31

Uh this property was inspected on um April 8th, 2026.

55:38

Uh for this hearing, we found uh single story brick commercial building we're gonna open element front elevation and rear elevation.

55:48

Uh smoke damage observed at the front and left elevation of the building.

55:54

Uh ADI secure with the Rad Iron Pencing, uh yard not maintained, and that's what we are front of this uh inoperable vehicle in the front yard.

56:09

Uh that's what we are here in front of this committee.

56:12

Thank you, Chief.

56:14

Um, Mohammed, have you been able to address any of the issues uh that have been shared with us?

56:20

Um I was out of the country.

56:23

Um, you know, uh I went back home uh for uh to visit my family, but uh I got stuck there because of the war going on um you know uh between the two US and the Iran.

56:35

So I could not you know uh I wasn't able to come back.

56:39

I just came uh two days ago.

56:41

You know what I mean?

56:42

So um I'm about to go ahead.

56:44

What would it take uh to fix it?

56:46

You know what I mean?

56:47

Okay, I do know what you mean because we gotta do it, we gotta address it.

56:51

Um so, sir, uh, were you able to drop down this email address?

56:56

Yes.

56:57

Okay, so if you have the email address, um, as you saw, the issues really are the openings and um debris, the abandoned vehicle.

57:07

Uh so if you can please address those issues immediately and make sure the property is secure.

57:12

Once you're gonna do it.

57:13

Yes, and uh we did um uh upload some pictures um you know um yesterday to uh to BC uh you know okay, Detroit.gov, yeah.

57:26

Okay, so then if you did that, uh then I feel comfortable sending this back to BC to allow them to review and to give you some more time.

57:35

Please.

57:35

Okay, is there a motion to send con it back to BC?

57:39

Motion hearing no objections, we will send one three two three one con it back to BC to give you some more time, Mohammed.

57:46

Okay.

57:48

Yes.

57:48

All right, do you have any other questions for us?

57:52

No.

57:52

All right.

57:53

Well, have a blessed day, sir.

57:55

Same to you, thank you.

57:57

We will now hear from uh Antonio Jones.

58:01

Thank you.

58:01

Antonio Jones, followed by Arlen Mifflin, Arlen Mifflin.

58:07

You are on deck.

58:08

Antonio, can you hear us?

58:09

Yes, ma'am.

58:10

Which property are you here to discuss?

58:13

910 Quincy.

58:17

Quincy Quincy, Q U I N C Y.

58:22

Quincy.

58:23

This is one, this is 911.

58:25

Excuse me.

58:26

Who I one zero zero.

58:28

Nine one zero zero quincy.

58:31

Yes, ma'am.

58:32

This is the sixth property under the 13th block.

58:34

This has been withdrawn.

58:36

Uh so the issues with the property have been addressed.

58:39

B seed.

58:40

Do you have any notes for 910 Quincy?

58:46

Uh thank you, madam chair.

58:48

Uh this property we had withdrawn, but the I think the garage in the backyard also the vacant property registration we need on this property.

59:04

Okay.

59:05

So, Miss Mr.

59:06

Jones, um, it's been um recommended that you register your property as as vacants.

59:14

Are you gonna keep your property vacant for a long period of time?

59:16

Do you know?

59:18

No, no, ma'am, that's not my intentions.

59:20

Actually, I've been fixing on the property inside and preparing to move in the property, inshallah, within the next uh uh couple months, actually.

59:28

And um, as he stated, like I sent pictures in and I'll show like things outside of what they were asking me to do and to do that I've I've been doing things outside of what they asked me to do.

59:41

Um I'll have the property for like um almost like several months, I'll say.

59:47

And um actually I've been uh pretty much attacking a property.

59:50

I've been vacant for 25 years.

59:54

Okay.

59:54

Well, thank you for that.

59:56

Um, and and if it's going to be occupied soon, thank you.

1:00:00

Um good luck.

1:00:01

If if it's going to be okay, I I just want to finish it.

1:00:05

If it's going to be vacant, it's it's recommended that you register it as vacant.

1:00:09

What's your question?

1:00:10

Okay, I'm sorry about uh injecting at that moment.

1:00:13

Forget my uh my rudeness.

1:00:16

Um what it is is that I received the certified mail probably like last month, and that was the only notice that I had gotten.

1:00:29

And come to find out, um, and I understand why because it's all about neighborhood safety.

1:00:35

A little kids could have got pulled in the garage or the broken glass in the windows, the couple broken glasses and the windows could have fell down and somebody could have got injured.

1:00:43

But I was unaware of it because when they put the note on the door instead of sending it to my house, my address.

1:00:50

Um I was charged like three different times or the price of like 168 dollars each.

1:00:57

And I was only informed once when they sent the certified mail to my house, and that was only like maybe like two to three weeks ago.

1:01:04

But prior to that, I had like three, if I'm not mistaken, like three other uh tickets uh regarding 168 dollars.

1:01:13

And I I just don't understand that because I I actually wasn't informed.

1:01:17

They put it on there, and whomever it was, like I said, I understand why for safety, you know, but whomever it was that was I guess they had an interest in the property after I met I I I purchased it.

1:01:27

Um but they were snatching the the the the note off of the door.

1:01:32

So I was I didn't even know that there was a complaint about it until I finally uh some so I rolled past or I uh I rolled past and I think I talked to someone and as I talked to them, they were telling me like you know, uh no, actually the certified mail.

1:01:48

And when I called and they explained to me, they said, go over to the house now.

1:01:52

We put something on your door.

1:01:53

And I, you know, uh as we did other times, I'm like, I never received I go past the check on it like daily, and I never saw anything.

1:02:01

So as soon as they told me that I went straight over there when I went over there, I noticed the note.

1:02:05

I called I and I grabbed I grabbed the note off of the door, and I immediately uh went and started uh uh uh uh correcting the problems.

1:02:15

So I'm just inquiring about you know this ticket that I have uh you know over 500 and something dollars.

1:02:21

I'm putting all of my finances into that, and you know, I I am a uh uh SSI and I'm putting all my finances that I have into you know uh uh uh fixing on this house, and you know, they give me a 560 dollar ticket or so, and uh I don't know, I I wasn't aware of the other two tickets, maybe just the one after they certified mail, but that was the last one.

1:02:44

As soon as they gave it to me, I immediately went and did it.

1:02:47

But also, this is my second time fixing the garage, and people were going over there ripping the garage down.

1:02:53

It's a I have a police report where after I put the fix the garage, I go over there like two days later, and I happen to see the bottom of the garage door bent.

1:03:03

When I looked inside, there was a stolen vehicle in the garage.

1:03:06

Yeah, so I called the authorities, the authorities came over there and got it in the process.

1:03:10

Authorities come to get it.

1:03:12

The door was ripped down.

1:03:13

Yeah, so I had to put it up pay to get it, pick it up again.

1:03:18

So thank you, Mr.

1:03:20

Jones, for sharing.

1:03:22

Um, because the communication um is a concern of mine as well.

1:03:27

And as I mentioned before, I have inquired about tickets that people receive, and unfortunately, council we're told that we can't do anything, that we can't get those forgiven, um, that people have to pay them.

1:03:38

I have issues with that.

1:03:40

Um, but I I do appreciate you sharing this with me.

1:03:43

And and there are other people in the administration that listen into these conversations as well.

1:03:48

So we all need to be knowing how hard this is uh for our residents uh for us to be able to address the communication issue.

1:03:54

Um for for now, it sounds like you are doing the work.

1:03:58

Thank you.

1:03:59

Um this has been withdrawn, so you should not see yourself back here again as long as you continue to to make the investments to the property.

1:04:06

Um and I appreciate you sharing with with us uh your experience.

1:04:11

Um it's gonna be helpful for me uh when I go back um and and and try to change the process, okay?

1:04:17

Yes, ma'am.

1:04:18

I appreciate you very uh very very much, and out of all I do respect, I've been observing you know each uh case that you've been approaching, and um the way like I I really do hear the concern, and um I'm also very much familiar with Mr.

1:04:33

Eric Sabree, and it's like two individuals, him and yourself, to where it's like you guys really really care about the community, you're not into someone just trying to lose all their property.

1:04:43

So may the most high reward you and him for you know your care and your efforts.

1:04:48

Thank you, sir.

1:04:49

I appreciate that a lot.

1:04:50

Um you will fix your property.

1:04:53

Good luck, have a blessed day, sir.

1:04:54

Um but I'm gonna keep it moving to the next call, okay?

1:04:57

Yes, ma'am, thank you.

1:04:58

Thank you.

1:05:00

We will now hear from oh, is there a motion to withdraw Quincy?

1:05:04

Motion.

1:05:05

We will agree to withdraw 910 Quincy.

1:05:09

We will now hear from Ellen Muffin Mufflin, followed by followed by Tyrod Williams.

1:05:17

Followed by Tyrod Williams.

1:05:19

Alan, can you hear us?

1:05:21

Yes, I can.

1:05:22

Which property are you calling us about?

1:05:25

Uh this one's 4201 Van Dyke.

1:05:29

4201 Van Dyke.

1:05:32

This is the eighth property under the 14th block.

1:05:34

This has been withdrawn.

1:05:36

Thank you for addressing the immediate needs.

1:05:39

Do you have any questions for us?

1:05:41

No, I'd like to uh follow up on what several others have said.

1:05:45

There's obviously a very big change in the process and level of detail being shown by the city now.

1:05:54

And I will, as you've suggested, uh having a lot of activity in the city over years and years, provide feedback to you through your email as you requested, good and bad.

1:06:07

Um like everyone else, I've I've been told to pay all these bills um that are on this file, which I did, and uh the only mailing I've received is the one after the city council uh verdict um to add to the other comments, uh, or the last gentleman.

1:06:27

Uh there's a big problem when you remove people from homes, they go back, they break in, they create a dangerous building when there was no dangerous building, they rip down notices, they remove notices.

1:06:40

Um we could go on and on, it's not the point.

1:06:44

The point is is that if the mailing of these notices does not occur, which I can guarantee you over 15 years, it does not occur 75% of the time, then everything else fails.

1:07:01

And when they notice it's been sent regular mail, registered mail.

1:07:06

You know, and we know if we got the registered mail because it's signed for and the registered mail rarely comes.

1:07:14

Um notices, and and this is my my only feedback right now to be yes, e the and also this extends to the blight side in a big way, right?

1:07:25

Um that's a huge thing when neighbors throw uh garbage pails on your property and you get ticketed because it's garbage pail is out.

1:07:34

I mean, this is nonsense, and it's always been nonsense, and no one's done anything about it to be very blunt.

1:07:38

If you call and complain, show photos, they don't care.

1:07:42

They've never cared, they've never listened, and I'll just be that frank.

1:07:45

Because we've tried over the years.

1:07:46

Pay the bill, pay the bill, or whatever.

1:07:48

And once you get on the list, they're coming back every time half an hour after, you know, the the cuts with the lawns, the new policy of throwing the notice on the lawn is a service now.

1:07:59

Uh that's not a service.

1:08:00

Throwing a notice on an empty lot is not a service.

1:08:03

These are things that I think it sounds like the council is now working towards to try to find remedies for violators should be dealt with, and those um where you know someone dumps on your property every week and they know they can get away with it because there's no recourse.

1:08:22

The good people I think are suffering a lot.

1:08:24

Yeah, um, and so we appreciate you taking action on finding a workable solution for both sides uh going forward.

1:08:34

Thank you.

1:08:35

Thank you.

1:08:35

And I think probably everyone on the calls will have a similar experience.

1:08:39

I I will ask folks, please do email us.

1:08:42

Um, I want to respect people that are waiting uh for the hearings as well.

1:08:46

But I do want to hear um these concerns.

1:08:49

So thank you for sharing yours with us, Alan.

1:08:51

Um, I do really encourage anybody else to as you're sitting and waiting.

1:08:55

Type away your email to us right now and let us know what this is because um we are we are going to be working on this.

1:09:02

Um so this is for Van Dyke.

1:09:04

It has been withdrawn.

1:09:05

Is there a motion to concur?

1:09:07

Motion hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 4201 Van Dyke.

1:09:13

Um, do you have any other properties with us, Alan?

1:09:16

I don't, thank you.

1:09:17

Okay, well, thank you.

1:09:18

Uh we will now turn it over to Tyrod Williams, followed by followed by phone phone number ending in 109.

1:09:28

109, phone number ending in 109.

1:09:31

You are on deck.

1:09:32

Uh Williams, last name Williams.

1:09:33

Can you hear us?

1:09:35

Yes.

1:09:35

Which property are you here to discuss?

1:09:38

Uh 18030 Mark Street.

1:09:40

March Streets.

1:09:43

Uh 18030 Mark Street has also been withdrawn.

1:09:48

Thank you for addressing the immediate needs.

1:09:51

Do you have any questions for us?

1:09:53

No.

1:09:54

Okay.

1:09:54

Is there a motion to withdraw?

1:09:56

Motion.

1:10:00

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 18030 Mark Street from demolition list.

1:10:03

Thank you for joining us, and I hope you have a good rest of your day.

1:10:06

Appreciate you.

1:10:07

Next caller.

1:10:08

Uh up next, caller ending in one zero nine, followed by followed by Vernel Lloyd.

1:10:16

Followed by Vernel Lloyd.

1:10:18

You are up on deck.

1:10:21

But next, 109, call or ending in 109.

1:10:24

Can you hear us?

1:10:28

If you are calling on, I believe you have to press.

1:10:30

Yes, I can hear you.

1:10:31

Oh, wonderful.

1:10:32

Which property are you calling us about?

1:10:36

41.

1:10:38

10 Wabash.

1:10:45

4410 Wabash.

1:10:47

This is the second property.

1:10:48

No, 41.

1:10:49

Oops.

1:10:50

410.

1:10:51

Wabash.

1:10:52

4110.

1:10:56

We have 4410.

1:11:01

No, that's not my address.

1:11:03

My address.

1:11:07

My address is 410 and what we might have an a mistake on us on our end.

1:11:13

410.

1:11:16

Is it the same property?

1:11:18

Okay, because on our sorry, ma'am, I'm I'm not speaking with you.

1:11:21

I'm speaking with BC in front of me.

1:11:23

I'm so sorry.

1:11:23

I'm sure that was confusing.

1:11:25

But what we have in front of us, the notes that we received from BC, Chief.

1:11:30

We have here 4410.

1:11:33

Was that a clerical mistake?

1:11:34

Is this 410?

1:11:40

Well, my address is 411.

1:11:44

Yeah.

1:11:46

What is that on here?

1:11:47

What I'm saying, Chief, is that it's wrong on our paper.

1:11:51

It's just a typo.

1:11:52

I just want to just for the note, just for the record.

1:11:54

Okay, just for the record, a little typo on our list.

1:11:58

It is the same property.

1:12:00

Ma'am, back to you.

1:12:01

Um, this property has been withdrawn from the demolition list, meaning that you've addressed the issues, the immediate issues.

1:12:07

Do you have any questions for us?

1:12:10

No, because I had addressed them and I saw pictures and she told me she's taking off.

1:12:15

Okay, wonderful.

1:12:16

Well, then is there a motion to concur?

1:12:19

Motion to withdraw.

1:12:20

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 4110 wabash from the demolition list.

1:12:26

Thank you, ma'am.

1:12:27

Hope you have a blessed day.

1:12:29

Me too.

1:12:30

Thank you.

1:12:30

Thank you all.

1:12:31

Thank you.

1:12:32

We will now hear from Vernel Lloyd followed by followed by Haroon.

1:12:38

Followed by Haroon.

1:12:39

You are on deck.

1:12:41

Vernel, can you hear us?

1:12:43

Yes.

1:12:44

Which property are you here to discuss?

1:12:47

Uh 3758 Roth's place.

1:12:54

Raw R-O-L-F-S.

1:12:58

All right.

1:12:59

This is the ninth property under the 13th block.

1:13:02

3758 Rolf's place.

1:13:05

This is on the demo list.

1:13:08

So is there oh turn it over to BC to give us some information about the property before I turn it over to BC for now?

1:13:18

Are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

1:13:21

Yes, I was looking to demolish the property.

1:13:24

Okay.

1:13:24

Um, I spoke with them the last time and I told them that um I wanted to do uh demolish the property and do a rebuild.

1:13:31

Um build.

1:13:33

Okay.

1:13:34

We support you on that.

1:13:35

Um, if you are looking to demo the property, that's something that you should do first.

1:13:39

Have you pulled permits or anything for the proper uh for the for the demolition?

1:13:44

No, I haven't pulled the permits yet.

1:13:45

I did go down and get a list um from uh from downtown.

1:13:50

I got a list of all the uh companies that are eligible to do a demo in the city.

1:13:54

Um so I haven't uh called them just yet.

1:13:58

Well, uh, because I just want to get up on the fund, so I want to try to have the next couple months to be able to do it and get the demo done myself.

1:14:05

Yes.

1:14:06

Um, and and we encourage anyone that is is looking to demolish their property to do it themselves.

1:14:11

You will save money.

1:14:12

Um, and then if the city does it, you will have to pay the city back, and your property will have a lien um until you do so.

1:14:20

Um, so would you be able to?

1:14:24

So this is a race that that we would want you to win.

1:14:28

Um, what I want to avoid is BC demolishing first.

1:14:32

Um, Chief Patel, is there he's looking at contractors now?

1:14:38

What's the simplest most cost effective flag that the public can make for BC to know that they're looking forward to they want to demolish?

1:14:45

Is it sending you a contract or what's what's the bare minimum that we can do here so that you know they're working on a demotion so that we don't do it ourselves?

1:14:56

Thank you, madam chat.

1:14:57

Uh definitely, yeah.

1:15:00

We are happy to see that the property owner take responsibility and demolish the property.

1:15:04

In that case, you know, we receive the demolition order right after that.

1:15:10

The property owner can provide us the sign contract.

1:15:14

Okay.

1:15:15

Demolition contract, sign commitment that they are demolishing this property with the timeline in there, and then we stop the we have the demolition department hold their demo of going further.

1:15:30

Chief, what is a demo order?

1:15:32

How do you get that?

1:15:33

Demolish the from you right now, or whatever we do.

1:15:37

Oh, so if we give them the order to demolish, the property owner can tell you I'm going to demolish.

1:15:45

So then they can confirm to you.

1:15:47

Here's my demo order.

1:15:48

I will move forward demolition and then come to you with the contract.

1:15:51

Exactly.

1:15:52

Okay, we can do that.

1:15:53

Can can we do that, Renel?

1:15:56

Yes.

1:15:56

Okay, awesome.

1:15:58

Um, so the email is on the screen if you need it.

1:16:01

Uh so what we'll do today is we will agree.

1:16:05

Uh we will agree with you to demolish the property.

1:16:08

Um, you are going to receive a demolition order from BC, and then what you're gonna do is follow up and just communicate with the department and say, here's my demolition order.

1:16:17

Um, I'm assuming you're gonna get it mailed or chief.

1:16:20

Do we know how that information is going to be received by the public?

1:16:26

Yes, it it comes by mail from the city clerk office.

1:16:30

So yeah.

1:16:31

Okay.

1:16:32

So then uh Vernail, once you receive that demo order, I would email BC to let them know.

1:16:37

Here's my demolition order.

1:16:39

I will move forward with my own demolition and then um stay in communication with them once you have your contractor.

1:16:47

Okay, and um, do I have a is there a timeline on when the demolition order comes out?

1:16:53

So I'll know to look for order.

1:16:55

So I don't know.

1:16:56

Um if I don't get it in the next couple months or so, I don't, you know, I just don't want to make sure I don't miss it or anything like that.

1:17:02

So yeah, what's the timeline, uh, Chief, for people to receive their orders?

1:17:07

I would I would not have much idea about that.

1:17:11

Uh but I'm sure that within two weeks that order goes out uh from the city clerk office.

1:17:18

But yeah, if you have the a property owner has already contract uh agreement with the demo contractor, they can send us any time.

1:17:28

Okay, they don't have to wait for the demolition.

1:17:31

Okay, so so Renel, be on the lookout in the next two to three weeks.

1:17:35

If you don't receive anything, I would I I would email this email and and let them know that you still haven't received the order.

1:17:42

No problem.

1:17:44

Okay, no problem.

1:17:46

Is there then a motion to concur with the demolition of 3748 Rolf's place?

1:17:53

We agree to the demolition.

1:17:55

So Ranel, you should be on the lookout for that notice and good luck with demolishing the property.

1:18:01

All right, thank you.

1:18:02

And rebuilding it, of course.

1:18:04

Thank you.

1:18:05

Yes, thank you.

1:18:05

All right.

1:18:06

So we will now hear from Haran.

1:18:09

If I'm misplaying if I'm mispronouncing your name, please correct me.

1:18:12

Followed by followed by iPhone.

1:18:16

Followed by iPhone, and I just want to note for the public.

1:18:19

Um, on my notes, we are down to our last four callers.

1:18:23

If you are online and you have not raised your hand yet for a hearing, please raise your hand now.

1:18:29

Don't be shy.

1:18:30

Um, because once we've completed the calls, you will go through the list very quickly and wrap up.

1:18:35

Uh so Haran, can you hear us?

1:18:38

Uh yes, ma'am.

1:18:39

Which property are you here to discuss?

1:18:41

Uh 1422 for uh patent patent street.

1:18:46

This is the first property on the 13th block.

1:18:49

This has been withdrawn.

1:18:50

So thank you for addressing the immediate needs.

1:18:53

Do you have any questions for us?

1:18:55

Uh no, ma'am.

1:18:56

Okay, is there a motion to concur?

1:19:00

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw one for two two four patent from the demo list.

1:19:06

Thank you for joining us.

1:19:07

We will now hear from iPhone followed by thank you.

1:19:13

Followed by Clary.

1:19:15

Followed by Claire.

1:19:18

Hello.

1:19:19

Is this iPhone?

1:19:21

Yes.

1:19:22

Uh, if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself, Daniel Hudson.

1:19:26

Nina, which property are you calling about us about?

1:19:29

2016 Yamaha.

1:19:32

You come 2716 uh 2016?

1:19:40

Yes.

1:19:41

We have already spoken with someone about this.

1:19:44

This has been withdrawn.

1:19:45

Do you know the owner?

1:19:46

Are you the owner of this?

1:19:48

I'm the owner.

1:19:49

You're the owner.

1:19:50

Well, this is another flag of communications because we were we spoke with somebody else earlier who mentioned that they just purchased the property.

1:20:00

Um do you know them?

1:20:03

No, no, I heard nothing about this.

1:20:05

Okay.

1:20:06

And you again, you're calling about 2016 Yakama?

1:20:11

Yes.

1:20:11

All right.

1:20:12

So I think this is another communication issue that's going on.

1:20:17

And unfortunately, I think there's a lot of parties involved.

1:20:20

The county, the city, the land bank.

1:20:23

I think this is why this is so complicated.

1:20:27

Um, so sir, what I can tell you today is that this property has been withdrawn.

1:20:32

It is not going to be demolished, but I also think that there's an issue with ownership right now.

1:20:37

It sounds like there are two different property owners or two different people that believe that they own this property.

1:20:45

Um, we can't do anything about that right now, but I just want to share that with you, sir.

1:20:49

If you want to go back, um maybe So how do I uh go about that?

1:20:57

Well, it I this is what you have to uh LPD.

1:21:00

I'll turn it over to L D D.

1:21:03

It's not his problem at all.

1:21:04

They they send out notices.

1:21:05

I understand it.

1:21:06

They send out notice to anybody who might perhaps be the right one, and they don't have perfect information as none as none of us ever do about what the exact ownership status is, and that's usually the cause of this, although I don't know what's happening here.

1:21:18

I'm sensitive to all the concerns about the process that we mentioned.

1:21:21

Yeah, well, but it is his problem if he believes he's the property owner, which he is telling us right now that he's the property owner.

1:21:30

Right.

1:21:30

And and the previous person said, I was uh I was in here there may have been a change at some point, but the in the exercise of caution to make sure that everybody has notice, they send out the notice rather than not sending the notice.

1:21:42

Right so that you don't fail to give notice to someone, and that is makes this kind of situation inevitable to some extent.

1:21:48

Sure.

1:21:49

Nothing can be done to fix it, but this this is gonna happen.

1:21:52

I never received anything, and I was here uh February, and you all uh told me to uh here so Mr.

1:22:02

Hudson, if you please feel free to continue.

1:22:06

No, I was here uh I believe that was February on uh Zoom with you all.

1:22:11

You told me to uh fix the back door, and uh somebody took the back window out of there, so I went and uh closed that off and uh yeah, and I'm here again today.

1:22:23

So yeah, it was no notice on nobody buying anything.

1:22:27

I never know nothing.

1:22:28

Okay, uh Vice Chair McCampbell.

1:22:31

Thank you.

1:22:31

Um good afternoon, sir.

1:22:33

So you just so we have uh that we're clear.

1:22:37

You you haven't received notice of any change of ownership, but you received notice about the property being at this dangerous buildings here.

1:22:46

Is that correct?

1:22:47

Yes, I was I was here in February, yes.

1:22:49

Okay, and then you got a notice of follow it up for the April here, right?

1:22:54

Yes, and did that that notice where did you that came to you via certified mail, or how did you get that notice?

1:23:04

Uh I went and checked on my property and seen it on the door.

1:23:07

Okay, okay.

1:23:09

So the other thing that I'm seeing here, property owner interested parties, the Wayne County treasurer.

1:23:17

So, sir, I I think this is this sounds like a deed issue.

1:23:21

This sounds like a so I this is I think something bigger.

1:23:27

Yeah, so sir.

1:23:29

Um, again, we still have people on the line, and I think this is an issue to address off offline, and we have our champion here, deed fraud.

1:23:37

So, member waters.

1:23:38

That's right.

1:23:39

Um, could you call my office?

1:23:42

Um, this is Member Waters at 313 628 2363 and speak with either um Jason or Santana.

1:23:54

Leave your information so that we can check into this.

1:23:56

There's a there's a possibility that this is defraud, and we've been working on that.

1:24:01

So could you do that, please?

1:24:03

Okay, I'm sorry, couldn't you uh give me the number one more time?

1:24:06

31363.

1:24:14

63.

1:24:15

Okay.

1:24:16

Uh is it okay if I can call in the morning?

1:24:18

Because I'm I'm actually at work.

1:24:20

It's fine.

1:24:21

That's fine.

1:24:22

Okay.

1:24:23

But don't forget to tell us so we can check on your property, okay?

1:24:25

Oh no, I will.

1:24:26

And I asked for who?

1:24:28

Um, either Jason or Santana.

1:24:30

We just need your information so that we can start to work on this issue.

1:24:34

You know, your contact information.

1:24:36

We have the address here, but we need your contact information, your name, telephone number, and email.

1:24:42

Okay, I got you.

1:24:44

Okay.

1:24:45

Thank you.

1:24:45

I appreciate it.

1:24:46

All right, thank you.

1:24:49

Thank you, Member Waters.

1:24:51

Um, and I'm I'm glad you called in um, sir, so that's you're able to uh look into this now.

1:25:00

Um but uh please do call member waters tomorrow morning so we can help you address this problem.

1:25:06

So for this for this property, we already agreed to withdraw it.

1:25:10

Um thank you, Member Waters uh for for working with um the residents.

1:25:14

Um so sir, just so you know the property is not going to be demolished, but um I I do recommend you call her tomorrow to figure out the ownership of the property, okay?

1:25:24

Oh yeah, I will.

1:25:25

Thank you.

1:25:26

I appreciate you.

1:25:27

Okay, sir.

1:25:27

Good luck.

1:25:28

Thank you so much for calling in.

1:25:30

All right.

1:25:31

All right.

1:25:32

I believe that was Mr.

1:25:33

Hudson.

1:25:34

So we will now turn it over to um Claire Cleary, followed by followed by Angelica Luckett.

1:25:42

Power by Angelica Clary, can you hear us?

1:25:47

Hello?

1:25:47

Yes, which property are you here to discuss?

1:25:50

Excuse me, speak Spanish.

1:25:52

Yo si hablo span.

1:25:54

Ah, okay.

1:25:55

Buenas tardes.

1:25:57

La propiedad isla 5126.

1:26:00

31 street.

1:26:02

31.

1:26:03

Okay, buenas tardes.

1:26:05

Um folks for translation purposes, I will do this in Spanish and translate afterwards.

1:26:13

I'm so sorry I cannot do both at the same time.

1:26:16

Um Clarity.

1:26:20

Clarisa.

1:26:21

Clarissa.

1:26:22

Okay, Clarisa, gracias por llamar.

1:26:24

Uh, to propiedad 512 uh 26.

1:26:29

Um says uh reglar la casa.

1:26:37

Um those ya no está in lista para demolazion.

1:26:41

Muchas gracias por ver los problemas y tratar de salvarlos.

1:26:46

Tienes algunas preguntas por nosotros, porque aquí uh no va a estar um demolido la casa.

1:26:56

Okay, muchas gracias.

1:26:58

No, ya se está trabajando in la casa, ya se instaló el roofing.

1:27:02

Um se hicieron las devidas instalaciones para que nos ponga la electricidad.

1:27:07

Ya se le molio por dentro, ya se está limpiando todo el area de afuera.

1:27:11

Entonces, este yo creo que vamos bien.

1:27:14

Okay, también yo.

1:27:15

Uh for translation purposes, folks.

1:27:17

Um Clarissa mentioned that uh so everyone just so you know, 5126 on 31st Street has been withdrawn.

1:27:25

Um, so it is no longer going to be um recommended for demolition.

1:27:30

This is the first property on the eighth block.

1:27:32

She mentioned that they are working on roofing, electricity and cleaning up the rest of the property.

1:27:36

Um, so they are are are well uh in doing that work.

1:27:40

Uh Clarissa, not sepas la ciudad.

1:27:52

I also did mention permits.

1:27:54

The city's asking for permits, so I let them know it's uh it's a high requirement of the city.

1:28:00

Um any other questions for the property owner.

1:28:04

If not, uh de la ciudad for enviar las photos de las evidencias de los avances de la propiedad.

1:28:26

Um ya no está en la casa in a lista de demolasion.

1:28:40

She was asking around um if we can add a different address for her for notifications as they're working on the property, but it has been withdrawn.

1:28:50

I let her know to continue to do the work to maintain the property.

1:28:53

BC, any notes on this property.

1:28:56

Uh thank you, madam chair.

1:28:58

Uh yeah, we we have noticed that they're they've been working on a print board.

1:29:03

Uh and they don't have the permit.

1:29:08

So the permit is the main thing because it's a lot of work involved in that property, it's very unsafe situation to work without having proper permit.

1:29:19

Uh they have the boat in the yard, some band and boards, uh a lot of debris in the yard that need to be cleaned up.

1:29:27

Okay.

1:29:27

Uh so the working with this project, uh, but the same time they gotta keep the property clean.

1:29:37

Uh, and that's what we are requesting.

1:29:40

Okay.

1:29:41

Um Clarissa, no mass and pregnant trabajo um boats, boats, boats, barcos, chiquitos, pequeños.

1:29:54

Um no deben estar in in in casas in residential homes in in as communidades.

1:30:13

No, apenas.

1:30:14

Okay.

1:30:15

I did ask her if they just purchased the property and and they did.

1:30:18

So that's part of this process too, right?

1:30:20

It's just giving people time.

1:30:21

Okay.

1:30:22

Um said much.

1:30:28

No, seriously.

1:30:38

Is there a motion to concur to withdraw 512631st?

1:30:42

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 5126 31st Street from Demolition List.

1:30:50

Gracias.

1:30:51

We will now hear from Angelica followed by followed by iPhone.

1:30:57

Followed by iPhone.

1:30:58

Angelica, can you hear us?

1:31:00

Yes, uh, but this is not Angelica, this is fighting Parker.

1:31:05

I was using Angelica, Zoom.

1:31:07

Okay, oh so sorry, Mr.

1:31:10

Parker.

1:31:11

What's the property?

1:31:14

One nine seven one six.

1:31:17

Welcome.

1:31:22

Welcome.

1:31:23

Uh one nine seven one six Waltham.

1:31:26

This is the fourth property under the 15th block.

1:31:30

This is being withdrawn, meaning that you've addressed the immediate needs.

1:31:34

So thank you for doing so.

1:31:36

Do you have any questions for us?

1:31:39

Yes.

1:31:39

Uh I'm aware of the damage other property.

1:31:43

I recently just got the roof done.

1:31:46

Um I'm determined to keep my property.

1:31:50

I don't want on the demo uh demanded.

1:31:54

Heard.

1:31:55

And and thank you.

1:31:56

I I want to keep as many properties as we can and keep them safe.

1:32:00

As long as you continue to maintain the property, you should be okay, okay?

1:32:05

Okay.

1:32:05

And that means any overgrowth, um, any openings, make sure that they are covered and maintained.

1:32:11

Um as long as the property stays safe, you should be okay.

1:32:15

Okay.

1:32:15

Okay.

1:32:16

Well, thank you for doing the work to maintain it.

1:32:18

Is there a motion to withdraw?

1:32:20

Well, before moving uh moving on, BC any notes on this property.

1:32:24

No.

1:32:25

I paid the back taxes.

1:32:28

Oh, I thought you were asking me.

1:32:30

I'm sorry.

1:32:30

Sorry, Mr.

1:32:31

Parker.

1:32:32

I'm sure you're I'm sure you're done with this.

1:32:34

Um, but I'm asking BC that they have any notes.

1:32:38

Thank you, madam chair.

1:32:39

Uh no, we did notice that the property is secure.

1:32:44

Okay.

1:32:44

Uh they have to uh maintain the yard.

1:32:46

Okay.

1:32:47

And they had if they're not ready to pull permit, then they gotta do the vacant property registration.

1:32:53

I rather have the permit uh to repair this property.

1:32:57

Uh so that way it goes is it goes on a record.

1:33:01

Uh so yeah, one of that we're gonna need from property owner.

1:33:06

Okay.

1:33:07

So um thank you for maintaining the property, continue to do so, and when you're ready to make those those changes, if you're able to pull permits, uh BC will appreciate that.

1:33:18

Okay, okay.

1:33:20

Is there a motion to concur to withdraw one nine seven one six welcome?

1:33:25

Motion hearing no objections, we agree to remove this from the demo list.

1:33:29

Thank you.

1:33:30

Hope you have a good rest of your day.

1:33:32

You too, thank you.

1:33:33

I will now hear from iPhone followed by followed by Hugo, followed by Hugo.

1:33:38

You're up, you're up you're on deck.

1:33:41

iPhone, you're next.

1:33:42

Can you hear us?

1:33:47

Caller calling in an iPhone number.

1:33:50

Can you hear us?

1:33:55

We cannot hear you if you are speaking, and unfortunately, I'm gonna have to add you to the bottom of the queue, iPhone.

1:34:04

Give you a little bit more time to join us.

1:34:06

Unfortunately, we still cannot hear you.

1:34:08

iPhone.

1:34:09

Uh so if you're having any technical difficulties, um if you want to jump off, jump back on, and then raise your hand again.

1:34:16

We can add you to the bottom of the queue.

1:34:19

But I will now go to Hugo followed by that is our last one as of right now.

1:34:26

As of right now, Hugo, Hugo, can you c can you hear us?

1:34:32

Okay, um in espanual or ingless.

1:34:35

Uh okay.

1:34:40

Okay.

1:34:40

Um is the la propied.

1:34:47

Livernoy.

1:34:48

And folks, uh my incredible translation services are being asked for again.

1:34:54

So um bear with me while I complete this uh with Hugo.

1:35:00

So um bear with me while I complete this uh with Hugo Hugo 1441 Livernoy Demolición.

1:35:27

Y ahora sí que nada structural se está cambiando is nomás hacer lo que creo que lo que existes is nomás manteniendo la basura que la casa está mantenida oh me mandó con BC me dijeron era la ventana era o sea era qualquer cosa que no era nada atrás tengo materiales de construction pero y luego me pide dice que fue un inspector que dice si estoy trabajando por dentro de la casa que ocupo premiso ando que le digo a él digo mira sí porque son detalles que se tienen que hacer antes de que no es nada structural y no sé cómo decirlo otra vez o sea oye o sea si estamos trabajando in ella obvio pero no es nada de structura no no no sé bueno ya me encargué de lo que me querían que hiciera o sea lo fuera ya ya todo limpio pues yeah no más que ahora sí que tengo los materiales que igual I guardo cosas o sea digo porque es mi casa con eso pero digo que me está pidiendo uh dentro y me dice que me detenga o más bien y no sé qué hacer cómo decirlo otra vez sí obvio que estoy haciendo trabajo nomás que no structural pero pero o sea como le hago no sé más bien for translation purposes Hugo is sharing um that he is working on the property from the inside um that at the moment that is where the focus is um and that the structural issues outside he will address but currently right now he's just keeping those maintained I will ask about permits so Hugo um tienes permisos para dentro no pues por eso digo lo que me pidieron de afuera eso ya está hecho que literal como le dije no era nada que hacer de lo que está haciendo de tu que estás haciendo mal que te están preguntando de lo adentro si no más de lo de afuera digo hey digo porque ahora is de adentro o sea porque ahora o sea digo como dentro lo único ya está bien lo que me lo que me pidieron ya lo hice pero ahora me dice que tengo material atrás y me dice ah bueno si estás trabajando ahora me hace un permiso y le dije que o sea no le dicho ahorita pero le quiero decir o sea si estoy trabajando por dentro pero nada structural que diga que occupe un permiso no te entiendo soy que puedo hacer si nomás dame un minuto because I have to translate um one second what's your number and I'm also connected to my team so Hugo is bringing out something that I think is very fair he received notices of issues with his property from the outside he is fixing the inside and now he's being he feels bugged about the inside which was never at all the notices that he received from dangerous buildings I agree if if if this isn't something that is stopping him from addressing B seeds issues why is he still being uh essentially bugged about about the work that he is doing to his property and I will say there are a lot of people that are very well equipped that own businesses that do construction that themselves and I and I think this is a conversation that you and I chief can have next week when we talk about communications we talk about permitting because I and I mentioned this before there are people here that might not even be able to afford the permits so let's talk about these things for llámale a Giselle que está in my equipo para decirnos más de lo que sa de lo que está pasando atingiando hay muchos problemas de communication con la ciudad y con la gente quince and this is for anyone listening in Giselle is on my community team social worker and her number is 313

1:40:22

And this is for anyone listening in.

1:40:24

Giselle is on my community team, social worker.

1:40:28

And her number is 313 224 3015.

1:40:33

Any other of these communication issues, she also speaks Spanish.

1:41:27

Yeah.

1:41:28

No, I understand.

1:41:29

He's saying thank you because he he did address the issues from the outside as as we know, which is why his property is being withdrawn, but now he feels as if he doesn't have peace in his own house that he's trying to fix because he keeps getting um stopped by B seed um for for not having the permits.

1:41:48

So for me, really it's a chicken and egg thing here.

1:41:50

What are we what are we trying to do first and how does this work?

1:41:54

Chief, your thoughts?

1:41:56

Thank you.

1:41:57

Uh yeah, as you can see that we had communicated with the property owner.

1:42:02

Uh we've been working with the property owner, and that's the reason we have withdrawn this property.

1:42:07

Oh yeah, no, I completely agree.

1:42:10

Yeah.

1:42:10

No, thank you, Chief.

1:42:11

And and I agree on that, right?

1:42:13

I think Ugo here is mentioning a different issue, a part of this whole system and process.

1:42:18

Um, but for for today's purposes for dangerous buildings, um, we are all set.

1:42:24

So Ugo, muchas gracias.

1:42:26

Um I think have we concurred to withdraw Livernoy?

1:42:30

If there's a motion to do so.

1:42:32

Motion to concur.

1:42:33

Uh hearing no objections discussion, Vice Chair.

1:42:37

Uh thank you, madam chair.

1:42:38

I so I just want to double check on process since we had two folks need a translation.

1:42:45

Um and I know you are council member, you're not here for language services.

1:42:51

So I appreciate you doing so.

1:42:53

Um on these notices for dangerous buildings.

1:42:56

Do we have information for folks to reach out for translation if they need so at the hearing?

1:43:04

Is that on those notices?

1:43:05

That's a good question, madam clerk.

1:43:07

I don't think so, right?

1:43:08

Okay.

1:43:09

That's something that's a good point.

1:43:10

And I think that's something that we should also add for formal session.

1:43:14

We have it for ASL, I believe, or I think there's a different notice if you need, but it's not for translation.

1:43:21

I think it's for something else.

1:43:22

So good flag.

1:43:24

Thank you.

1:43:25

Something for us for us to include in support of translation.

1:43:29

Thank you.

1:43:30

Oh, yeah, ultima pregunta, perdon.

1:43:31

Oh no, no, it's you know, is the pregunta?

1:43:34

Um, Giselle, habla conoscre y luego, okay.

1:43:50

Okay, mas o menos que tempo le pueda llamar o si quieres.

1:43:59

Okay, está bien.

1:44:00

Muchas gracias.

1:44:01

Okay, muchachas Ugo.

1:44:02

Um.

1:44:08

Okay, thank you.

1:44:09

All right, everyone.

1:44:10

So we have there was a motion, hearing no objections.

1:44:16

We agreed to withdraw one four four one livernoy.

1:44:20

Um, and Chief, you're correct.

1:44:22

This was not an issue of this comms.

1:44:24

This is something else that we'll look into.

1:44:26

Umgo, I believe was our last caller.

1:44:29

iPhone is iPhone back.

1:44:31

We have another caller.

1:44:33

Who else do we have?

1:44:34

We have one caller and we have a couple.

1:44:37

Oh, people in person.

1:44:39

We may need translation services though.

1:44:41

Oh, okay.

1:44:42

Um are you looking for translation services?

1:44:47

What's what language are you?

1:44:48

Are you looking for translation services for?

1:44:55

Okay, so you can help us with translation.

1:45:00

I can understand okay.

1:45:03

Well we'll try our best.

1:45:05

Um we'll go with the people here in person.

1:45:07

So you both can join us and you can take some seats that are up here.

1:45:24

And then oh if you wouldn't mind pressing the button until it's green.

1:45:29

Okay.

1:45:29

Okay, perfect.

1:45:31

And then letting us know which property are you here to discuss.

1:45:34

Oh give me a video address.

1:45:37

Uh 8943.

1:45:40

MacLanan Street.

1:45:42

Okay.

1:45:43

Wonderful.

1:45:44

This should be easy.

1:45:45

8943 McLellan has been withdrawn.

1:45:49

So it's no longer going to be demolished.

1:45:51

So you did the work to address the issues.

1:45:54

Yeah.

1:45:55

Okay.

1:45:55

All right.

1:45:56

Do you have any questions for us?

1:45:57

Because here, actually, I'm gonna turn it over to BC to share any notes.

1:46:02

But right now it's going to be removed from demolition list.

1:46:05

You address the immediate issues, but there might be other issues that BC wants you to address.

1:46:10

So Chief Patel.

1:46:12

Uh thank you, madam chair.

1:46:13

Uh yeah, we have recognized that uh some work being done.

1:46:18

Uh the including the new rope, new port.

1:46:22

Uh they have the windows.

1:46:25

It is open from upstairs windows, I believe.

1:46:28

And then we require the permit uh to inst uh part the work, what they are doing there.

1:46:35

Okay, understood.

1:46:36

So if you're able to pull the permits for the work that's been completed, and then any of the remaining openings.

1:46:43

So the windows, any doors, if those can be boarded up, you guys should be all set.

1:46:47

Okay.

1:46:48

We closed everything.

1:46:49

Okay, great.

1:46:50

Like were you oh, and this has been withdrawn.

1:46:52

So if you closed everything, just continue to do the work, pull any permits for major issues.

1:46:57

Uh, but as long as you do that, you guys are gonna be okay.

1:47:00

Okay.

1:47:00

Actually uh work every day.

1:47:02

Okay, no, I believe you.

1:47:04

So thank you.

1:47:04

And they see it.

1:47:06

So thank you for doing that work.

1:47:08

Do you have any questions for us?

1:47:09

Uh no, thank you.

1:47:10

Okay, well, thank you both for coming down.

1:47:12

We appreciate it.

1:47:14

Um, so is there a motion to withdraw 8943 McLellan?

1:47:19

Motion to concur.

1:47:20

There's a motion to agree to withdraw.

1:47:23

Uh McClennon from the demolition list.

1:47:25

Thank you both.

1:47:26

You're free to go.

1:47:29

Have a nice day.

1:47:30

Of course, you as well.

1:47:31

You as well.

1:47:32

All right, to our online callers.

1:47:36

So our next caller is Michael Sanford, followed by Radad iPhone.

1:47:43

Michael Sanford.

1:47:46

Followed by who?

1:47:47

Next person again.

1:47:49

They dropped off.

1:47:51

They dropped off.

1:47:51

See if they come back in.

1:47:52

All right, Stanford.

1:47:53

Can you hear us?

1:47:54

Sanford?

1:47:54

Yes, really.

1:47:56

Which property are you here to discuss?

1:47:58

Yes, one four five seven I Lapin Street.

1:48:02

This is the sixth property under the 11th block.

1:48:05

This property has also been withdrawn.

1:48:08

So thank you for addressing the issues, uh, the immediate issues.

1:48:11

Do you have any questions for us?

1:48:13

Um, no, not immediately.

1:48:15

Just what do I need other than uh no to board up the windows and remove the uh trash on the external end of the property?

1:48:21

It's making sure that you continue to maintain the property, so having there be no openings to any of the windows or doors, um, and continuing to maintain the overgrowth, the debris around the property, um, just to keep it safe.

1:48:35

Okay, no problem.

1:48:36

All right, we'll let them tell.

1:48:38

Oh, yes, there's a note from BC, Michael.

1:48:41

If you can give us one second, Chief.

1:48:43

Uh thank you, madam chair.

1:48:45

Uh the we we noticed that the their second floor windows are open.

1:48:50

Uh, I think window is open.

1:48:52

Also, the they have the garage, collapse, garage and back.

1:48:56

Yeah, remove I'm removing the garage.

1:48:58

I just uh started collapsing now.

1:49:00

Um getting the garage turned out now.

1:49:02

I already have a contract that just came out to die today and size that up a removal.

1:49:06

All right, Michael, thank you.

1:49:08

One second, anything else, Chief?

1:49:10

Uh if they're not ready to you know take take on this project, then we we like to have the work and property registers.

1:49:19

Okay, thank you, Chief.

1:49:20

But it sounds like Michael is addressing all the issues, so thank you.

1:49:23

Thank you, Michael.

1:49:24

Uh, we appreciate that.

1:49:26

Um, so is there a motion to concur to withdraw one four five seven nine Lapen?

1:49:31

Motion Lapine.

1:49:33

We agree to withdraw.

1:49:34

Thank you again, Michael.

1:49:36

Do you have any other questions for us?

1:49:38

No, not at all.

1:49:38

Thank you so very much.

1:49:39

Thank you.

1:49:40

Have a blessed day.

1:49:41

Any other callers?

1:49:43

Yes, we do.

1:49:44

Who is our next caller?

1:49:45

So our next caller is Radad iPhone.

1:49:49

Radad, can you hear us?

1:49:55

Yes, how are you doing?

1:49:56

Oh, we're good.

1:49:57

How are you?

1:49:59

I'm good, I'm good.

1:50:00

I'm good.

1:50:00

Thank you.

1:50:00

I was afraid if you guys gonna finish the meeting without me.

1:50:06

Well, you made it.

1:50:07

Which property are you here to discuss?

1:50:10

Uh I have two properties.

1:50:12

One of them is 6475, Seneca.

1:50:15

Okay, let's start there.

1:50:18

This is the third property under the 14th block.

1:50:22

6475, Seneca.

1:50:25

Yes.

1:50:26

Seneca.

1:50:27

This is going to be this is being ordered demolished.

1:50:31

So we will turn it over to B seed uh to pull up the information for 6475 Seneca and let us know what the issues are.

1:50:43

Um, and we see the property now.

1:50:46

Um are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

1:50:50

No, I'm keeping.

1:50:52

I already uh boarded the window.

1:50:53

Uh the attic window was uh was open, so I closed it and I bought the front door and uh the front uh windows and the side window.

1:51:05

Okay, I sent the picture and uh to your email.

1:51:09

Wonderful, thank you.

1:51:10

B seed just if you wouldn't mind sharing what you want to be addressed, noting that you've got some pictures in your inbox.

1:51:27

Uh thank you.

1:51:28

Um madam tier.

1:51:30

Uh on April 8, 2026.

1:51:35

We inspected this property for this particular hearing.

1:51:39

We pound one and a half story frame, single family dwelling.

1:51:44

We're gonna open at the second floor windows.

1:51:48

Uh open front door, open front windows, open side roof, facet and software board.

1:51:59

Uh yeah, not maintained, overgrowth, harbor blighted property.

1:52:06

We would uh that's that's the reason we are requesting to have uh the demolition order.

1:52:14

Uh this is still coming since July 2025.

1:52:19

By July 25.

1:52:20

Okay, thank you, Chief.

1:52:22

So uh Radid, you mentioned that you sent over pictures.

1:52:25

What did you address again?

1:52:28

Uh I I fixed uh I buried the windows and the doors on the front and on the side on the roof.

1:52:36

I'm gonna work on a soon.

1:52:38

I buy it like that from uh the auction, but uh I'm trying my best.

1:52:44

Uh and by the way, I never received any uh notification from the city to my house.

1:52:52

This is uh the owner that uh you guys sent the letter to the house.

1:52:58

I have moved from there like three and a half years ago, and he just handed me those papers and and on Friday.

1:53:06

So I just work on the weekend.

1:53:08

Yeah, okay.

1:53:09

Thank you, Radith.

1:53:10

No, I I appreciate you, and and I am if you were here this whole time, uh, you know that we are working through these communication issues.

1:53:17

Um, so it sounds like um you have addressed the issues now.

1:53:26

This has been uh problem since July, though.

1:53:29

Do you have any plans long term to address the what are your plans for the property?

1:53:33

You looking to move into it, rent it out, sell it.

1:53:37

Uh either rent it or sell it, but I'm I'm working on it.

1:53:41

So but you said I uh since July, I never have uh any any uh notification or any letter from the city.

1:53:47

Okay, this is the first time.

1:53:48

Okay, understood.

1:53:50

And and and just for for B seed's purposes, and and there seems to be a lack of communication for you.

1:53:56

Um, but they're letting us know that this has been an issue for them.

1:54:00

Now you've let us know that you have not received the information.

1:54:03

Okay, um, we can give you some more time to work on this.

1:54:07

Um, but if you're gonna keep it vacant, um, as has been uh recommended, it would be good to register your property as a vacant uh property.

1:54:18

You can go to DetroitMI.gov, search vacant property registration and do it that way.

1:54:24

Um, but just to give you some more time um as you address the issues.

1:54:30

Um, but I feel comfortable giving you more time uh give given the fact that you've already done some of the work and you plan to do more of the work, correct?

1:54:39

Yes, okay.

1:54:41

Uh any other questions, colleagues?

1:54:43

If not, is there a motion to send this back to BC?

1:54:46

Motion hearing no objection, 6475 Seneca will be sent back to BC.

1:54:51

Radhi, good luck.

1:54:54

We okay.

1:54:56

Uh you have any other questions for us?

1:55:01

And I know that you've sent pictures over already of what you've addressed.

1:55:05

Um, but I believe the roof, any anything else that needs to be addressed, what would have to also be uh fixed.

1:55:13

Okay.

1:55:14

Yeah, sure.

1:55:14

I um I'm working on it.

1:55:16

Okay.

1:55:17

Vice Chair.

1:55:19

Oh, you have one more.

1:55:20

That's right.

1:55:20

Thank you.

1:55:22

What was the other property?

1:55:24

The other property is uh I have the same situation.

1:55:34

They never uh send it to my uh house, they sent it to somebody else's house, but they bought they just hand me all these files back in the on Friday.

1:55:43

It's six uh four nine four argues I R O O U O I S.

1:55:52

Iroquois.

1:55:53

Well, yeah, but they spell wrong here.

1:55:56

There's about I R O O U O I Sor That's how they spell on the paper, but it's supposed to be argues, argues whatever we say is I don't see is anyone else I R O Q U I O S O I S C E of course.

1:56:21

Yeah, no, we we know and and we don't see it on our list here.

1:56:24

So I I think Radin, you might have received that notice for a different hearing.

1:56:29

Um, but that unless B seed is supposed to no, it's not supposed to be on our on our list today.

1:56:34

So Rad, I I think that's a different property that needs to be addressed.

1:56:38

Um, but that that address is not on our list today.

1:56:41

Um, so it's not on the demolition list that that that we know of.

1:56:45

Um so I get it.

1:56:47

Yeah, I'm sorry, it is not in the demolition list.

1:56:50

Is I already missed the court for this.

1:56:52

I I they didn't send it to my house.

1:56:54

Okay.

1:56:54

And the ticket me is so crazy.

1:56:57

It's 2.6 million.

1:56:59

It only costs 20,000 for that for the building, or 100,000 uh and they give me a ticket for 2.5 million and another 850 and another uh uh 380 and 380, like so many tickets with no notification with no court with no nothing.

1:57:17

So it sounds like you missed the court, sir.

1:57:20

There and sounds like there was a court that you missed, and and we hear you on issues of communication.

1:57:27

Um, so what we can do for you today is um we addressed the first property, we sent it back to BC.

1:57:35

It's giving you more time.

1:57:36

The Iroquois property, yeah.

1:57:38

Thank you.

1:57:38

I would just read that that letter again, address whatever issues are there, but that's not something that that's before us to discuss today, okay?

1:57:47

Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah.

1:57:48

It was a different court, but I thought if you could help me with this.

1:57:51

No, I'm so sorry, sir.

1:57:53

Uh member waters.

1:57:54

Uh, if he could call my office and ask before Santana Heel, she can help walk him through some of that.

1:58:01

Okay, okay.

1:58:02

What's the phone number?

1:58:03

313.

1:58:05

Okay.

1:58:06

628.

1:58:08

Okay.

1:58:09

2363.

1:58:12

2363.

1:58:14

Yes.

1:58:15

And who should I ask for?

1:58:16

Santana.

1:58:17

Heel, Miss Heel.

1:58:20

God bless you.

1:58:22

All right.

1:58:24

Any other questions for us?

1:58:26

No, thank you very much.

1:58:27

No problem.

1:58:28

Thank you, sir.

1:58:29

Good luck.

1:58:30

I will you as well.

1:58:33

Ms.

1:58:33

Khan, are we do we have any other callers?

1:58:36

Yeah, one last caller.

1:58:37

Um, Samsung.

1:58:39

Samsung.

1:58:41

If you can hear us, you have been made a panelist.

1:58:46

Yes.

1:58:47

Hello, which property are you here to discuss?

1:58:50

12 8.

1:58:55

What can you repeat the street name again?

1:59:04

Terry.

1:59:05

T E R R Y.

1:59:06

Okay.

1:59:08

1288 3 Terry.

1:59:11

147.

1:59:12

This is the seventh property under the 14th block.

1:59:16

Uh, this property is on the demolition list.

1:59:20

Um, are you we're gonna ask BC to pull the information for one two eight eight three Terry?

1:59:28

And while they pull up the information, ma'am.

1:59:31

Are you looking to keep or demolish your property?

1:59:34

No, I'm keeping the property.

1:59:36

Okay, well, then we will ask BC what needs to happen um in order for for that to happen.

1:59:44

Last time they were talking about the porch.

1:59:47

My son fixed the porch, and the guy I gave him 400 to put a tarp on the roof, and I see in the winter it blew back off, but they're about to fix the roof.

2:00:00

They were waiting on the weather to change, you know.

2:00:01

Yeah.

2:00:03

Understood, B seed.

2:00:14

Thank you, uh, madam chair.

2:00:16

Uh on April 7, 2026.

2:00:20

We inspected this property for this hearing.

2:00:24

We pound two story single family frame dwelling.

2:00:28

We can open two elements at the side windows and hole in the uh in the roof.

2:00:36

Uh side window not properly bordered, not maintained is overgrowth.

2:00:42

The yard is overgrowth.

2:00:44

We did not see any permit for any repairs.

2:00:48

Uh that's what we are here in front of this committee.

2:00:51

Thank you.

2:00:51

A nice parking.

2:00:52

Okay, thanks, Chief.

2:00:54

Um, ma'am, you mentioned that the porch was addressed.

2:00:58

The issue here looks like the the roof.

2:01:01

Um, that's that's opened.

2:01:03

Um, you mentioned that you did tarp it over the winter.

2:01:07

Um that got 400 for that tarp and it didn't stay on very long.

2:01:15

Right.

2:01:15

So then I don't know if he didn't do it properly or what happened storms or what uh my son is was getting a permit for the because he knew all my paperwork pretty much and I don't know what he I don't really tell me about, but we were waiting on the winter to break to start back on the house up there.

2:01:42

Okay, so then now that the winter has broken, uh are you going to be able to address the the roof openings uh in the immediate yes?

2:01:53

I would do it.

2:01:54

I will get it done.

2:01:56

So if I have to just tarp it again until they get uh permit to do the roof.

2:02:02

That would be I believe at the bare minimum, yes.

2:02:05

Um, so um and it looks like the tarp is still there, so maybe it just needs to be reinforced.

2:02:11

Um, but um, I'm I'm gonna buy a thicker one.

2:02:15

I think he gave me one that was too flimsy for real.

2:02:19

Okay, because he furnished it with uh mile, but I have a thicker one that I'm gonna have uh one of the contractors, my son work with just cover it until we can do the work.

2:02:32

Okay, sounds good, ma'am.

2:02:34

Thank you for that.

2:02:35

Um with that, is there a motion to send one two eight eight three terry back to B seed?

2:02:41

Motion hearing no objection, this property will be sent back to B seed.

2:02:44

Ma'am, I I think you mentioned do you have the email address to send the pictures to yeah?

2:02:50

I took a picture of it.

2:02:51

Okay, if you wouldn't mind once you do replace the tarp, um let B seed know so that they know that you are still addressing the issue, okay.

2:03:00

All right, okay.

2:03:02

No problem, thank you.

2:03:04

I will now call for any other callers, any remaining callers.

2:03:10

All right, scene none.

2:03:12

Again, if you are online and if you have been shy up to this point and have not raised your hands for a hearing, and if you are a property owner in need of a hearing, please raise your hand now.

2:03:23

I will go through the rest of these properties now rather swiftly.

2:03:33

Um, and Miss Con.

2:03:36

If anyone does raise their hand, please interrupt me and I will conduct their hearing.

2:03:42

Until then the remaining properties on the dangerous demolition list.

2:03:50

Uh, read as follows.

2:03:52

So we have agreed to withdraw 5126 31st Streets.

2:03:59

Ashland, I would like to send back to B seed for cost analysis.

2:04:04

Hearing no objections, 1303 Ashland will be sent back to B seed.

2:04:08

B seed is recommending to withdraw 18713 Avon.

2:04:14

They are recommending demolition of four 5427 Baldwin.

2:04:23

Recommends to withdraw 6125 Beechwood, and we agree to withdraw 4574 Balvedir.

2:04:36

Would like to send one zero six six nine bonita back to B seed as well for cost analysis.

2:04:42

Hearing no objections, one zero six six nine bonita will be sent back to B seed.

2:04:48

They recommend to withdraw 7723 East Canfield.

2:04:52

They recommend demolition of 991 Carlin, but I would like to send this back to BC.

2:05:01

Thank you.

2:05:02

9917 Carlin.

2:05:03

I would like to send this back to B seed.

2:05:05

Motion.

2:05:06

Hearing no objection, we are going to send 9917 Carlin back to B seed.

2:05:12

And they are with recommending to withdraw 8342 Cloverlawn.

2:05:18

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations on the 8th block?

2:05:22

Motion to concur.

2:05:23

Hearing no objections, we agree to concur with the remaining recommendations for the eighth block.

2:05:28

For the ninth block.

2:05:45

Demolis.

2:05:53

Demolished.

2:05:55

Yes.

2:06:00

Hearing no objections.

2:06:05

We'll be sent back to B seed.

2:06:08

16840 Fenton is being withdrawn.

2:06:13

2517 Ford is being ordered demolished.

2:06:18

We are sending 3807 Fullerton back to B seed.

2:06:23

1961 Glindale is being ordered demolished as well as 2253 Glynn.

2:06:30

444 East Graham Boulevard is being withdrawn.

2:06:35

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations?

2:06:37

Motion to concur.

2:06:38

Hearing no objections, we agree with the recommendations under the ninth block.

2:06:42

Under the 10th block.

2:06:51

Under the ninth, under the 10th block, excuse me, the 10th block.

2:06:55

B seed recommends to withdraw 456 East Grand Boulevard as well as 484 East Grand Boulevard.

2:07:05

We agree to withdraw 13334 Grashett and 8938 East Grixdale.

2:07:14

As well as 1922 Hard.

2:07:18

They recommend to withdraw 5203 Hover Hill.

2:07:24

And I would like to send 4763 Helen back to B seed for cost analysis.

2:07:30

Hearing no objections, that will be sent back to B seed.

2:07:36

Is being sent back to B seed.

2:07:40

Hereford would like to send this to B seed as well for cost analysis.

2:07:47

Motion.

2:07:47

Hearing no objection, this will be sent back to B seed.

2:07:50

And they recommend to withdraw 4538 Hulkholm.

2:07:55

Is there a motion to concur?

2:07:57

Motion.

2:07:58

Hearing no objections, we will concur with the remaining recommendations for the 10th block.

2:08:03

Under the 11th block.

2:08:13

B seed is recommending demolition for 180 West Hollywood.

2:08:21

Excuse me, Holebots.

2:08:27

As well as 5585 Joy.

2:08:30

All are being recommended for demolition.

2:08:33

Would like to send 1360 LaSelle back to BCE for cost analysis.

2:08:38

Motion.

2:08:38

Hearing no objection, we will do so.

2:08:41

We agree to withdraw 14579 Le Penn.

2:08:45

They recommend to demolish 14403 Linwood.

2:08:51

We concur to withdraw 1441 Livernoy.

2:08:55

They recommend to withdraw 11706 Longacre and recommended for demolition 8128 MAC.

2:09:04

Is there a motion to agree with the recommendations?

2:09:08

Madam Chair.

2:09:10

Madam Clerk.

2:09:14

Are all demo?

2:09:15

Yes, ma'am.

2:09:16

Thank you.

2:09:17

Those are all recommended for demo and five is being sent back to B seed.

2:09:22

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations?

2:09:25

Motion.

2:09:26

Hearing no objection, we will concur with the right remaining recommendations from B seed for the 11th block.

2:09:31

For the 12th block.

2:09:39

Under the 12th block, B seed recommends that we withdraw 60 East Margaret.

2:09:47

I would like to send 14029 Mark Twain back to B seed for cost analysis.

2:09:52

Hearing no objection, we will do so.

2:09:55

We agree to withdraw 18030 Marks as well as 8943 McLean.

2:10:07

BC recommends to withdraw 7316 Merkel.

2:10:13

13142 Myers Mayors.

2:10:21

As well as 8824 Monica.

2:10:24

So 5 through 8 are being recommended to withdraw.

2:10:33

While 19951 Oakfield is being recommended to withdraw.

2:10:37

Is there a motion to concur?

2:10:39

Motion to concur.

2:10:40

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw and demolish the recommendations under the 12th block.

2:10:46

Under the 13th block.

2:10:50

Okay, great.

2:10:51

Under the 13th block, we agree to withdraw 14224 patent.

2:10:58

BC recommends to demolish 1955's Pelkey as well as 8096 Prairie, as well as 540 Prairie.

2:11:10

We agree to withdraw 14417 Promenade as well as 9100 Quency Quincy as well as 18625 Revere.

2:11:22

BC recommends to demolish 14912 Rockdale.

2:11:28

We agree to demolish 3758 roles to place.

2:11:41

Hearing no objections, we will agree to the recommendations for the 13th block for the 14th block.

2:11:47

16005 Schoolcraft is being withdrawn as well as 5311 C Bolt.

2:11:54

6475 Seneca is being sent back to B seed.

2:11:58

16203 E7 Miles being ordered demolished.

2:12:03

18646 St.

2:12:05

Louis is being sent back to BC.

2:12:07

1390 Sussex is being withdrawn.

2:12:15

4201 Van Dyke, we agree to withdraw.

2:12:24

Again, that's 4213 Van Dyke is being ordered demolished.

2:12:29

And 9141 Ventin is being withdrawn from the demolition list.

2:12:34

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining property?

2:12:36

Recommendations.

2:12:37

Motion to concur.

2:12:38

Hearing no objections, we agree with the recommendations for the 14th block.

2:12:43

For the 15th block, 2214 Wabash is being withdrawn.

2:12:50

We agreed to withdraw one, excuse me.

2:12:52

We drew off 4110.

2:12:55

Again, that's 4110.

2:13:00

It's being withdrawn.

2:13:07

And we agreed to withdraw 19716 Waltham.

2:13:14

12715 Ward is being ordered demolished.

2:13:18

We concur to withdraw 16165 Washborn.

2:13:36

Woodvine is being ordered demolished.

2:13:38

And we agree to withdraw 2016 Yakima.

2:13:43

Is there a motion to concur?

2:13:45

Motion to concur.

2:13:46

Hearing no objections, we agree with the remaining recommendations.

2:13:49

Ms.

2:13:49

Kahn, anybody else?

2:13:51

All right.

2:13:52

Thank you all so much for being here with us today.

2:13:54

We have a lot of lessons learned, a lot of work to do, but I appreciate you all.

2:13:58

Since there's nothing else before us, we are now adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

Detroit Public Health and Safety Committee Dangerous Buildings Hearing - April 20, 2026

The Detroit City Council Public Health and Safety Standing Committee convened on April 20, 2026, for a dangerous buildings hearing. The committee heard appeals from property owners regarding approximately 80 buildings recommended for demolition by the Buildings, Safety Engineering, and Environmental Department (BSEED). Chair Gabriela Santiago-Romero presided. The session focused on whether buildings were dangerous and whether owners could demonstrate progress toward repair or demolition. Many properties were withdrawn or sent back to BSEED for further time; a smaller number were ordered for demolition. Widespread concerns about communication, ticketing, and notification processes were raised by property owners.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Multiple property owners expressed frustration with inconsistent notification, duplicate tickets, and fines arriving before or shortly after property purchase. Some reported receiving no notice until the hearing date or finding notices removed.
  • Owners described financial strain, work already completed (e.g., tarping roofs, boarding windows, cleaning lots), and plans for full repairs. Several thanked BSEED for working with them but urged improvements in communication.
  • One owner noted that the city's notice process leads to confusion and that tickets accumulate without proper notification. Another highlighted that vacant property registration was required but not communicated.
  • A Spanish-speaking owner raised concerns about language access on notices and permits, and the committee acknowledged the need for translation services.

Discussion Items

  • The committee heard an overview of the dangerous buildings process: owners who receive a demolition order may request a deferral by securing the building, paying fees, and obtaining permits.
  • Individual hearings were conducted for property owners (in-person and online). Chair Santiago-Romero emphasized the committee's desire to help owners keep properties if they are willing to make repairs.
  • BSEED Chief Patel and inspectors presented inspection findings for each property, including dates of inspections (primarily April 6–9, 2026) and descriptions of hazards such as open windows, roof damage, debris, and overgrowth.
  • The chair noted the high number of withdrawn properties and acknowledged systemic communication failures, promising to work with BSEED and the administration to improve notification and ticketing processes.
  • Vice Chair McCampbell raised the issue of translation services on notices, which the chair agreed to address.
  • Member Waters offered her office to assist property owners with deed fraud concerns.

Key Outcomes

  • The committee voted on the remainder of the dangerous buildings list in blocks. Final outcomes included:
    • Withdrawn: Over 40 properties were removed from the demolition list after owners addressed immediate safety concerns (e.g., boarding windows, tarping roofs, clearing debris). Examples: 3807 Fullerton, 4574 Beldevere, 13334 Graschett, 8138 East Grixdale, 18625 Revere, 1922 Harned, 14417 Promenade, 2016 Yakima, 16165 Washburn, 5012 Helen, 9100 Quincy, 4201 Van Dyke, 18030 Mark, 4110 Wabash, 14224 Patent, 19716 Waltham, 8943 McLellan, 14579 Lapine, 12883 Terry.
    • Sent back to BSEED: Approximately 15 properties were sent back for cost analysis or additional time. These included 1303 Ashland, 10669 Bonita, 9917 Carlin, 4763 Helen, Hereford (address not specified), 1360 LaSelle, 14029 Mark Twain, 6475 Seneca, 18646 St. Louis.
    • Ordered demolish: About 20 properties were ordered for demolition, including 5427 Baldwin, 16840 Fenton, 2517 Ford, 1961 Glindale, 2253 Glynn, 180 West Hollywood, 5585 Joy, 14403 Linwood, 8128 Mac, 1955's Pelkey, 8096 Prairie, 540 Prairie, 14912 Rockdale, 3758 Rolf's Place (owner agreed to demolish), 16203 E7 Mile, 4213 Van Dyke, 12715 Ward, Woodvine.
  • The committee also addressed a duplicate ownership concern for 2016 Yakima, referring the owner to Member Waters' office for deed fraud investigation.
  • Chair Santiago-Romero committed to meeting with BSEED to improve communication and notification systems, and encouraged property owners to email her office with feedback.
  • The meeting adjourned after processing all remaining blocks with no further callers.

Meeting Transcript

Afternoon, everyone. I would like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for the purposes of our dangerous buildings hearings. May the clerk please call the roll. Yes, good afternoon. Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero. Good afternoon, present. Councilmember Denville and McCampbell. Councilmember Mary Waters. Present. Madam Chair, we have quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Given a quorum, and I do know Member McCampbell will be joining us shortly. We'll go right into the hearings for today. For folks that are here for the first time, I will turn it over to the administration to share with you what you can expect from our dangerous buildings process and why you are here. I'll turn it over to the administration to whoever can provide us that overview. Good afternoon through the chair. Good afternoon. For owners of property here today, if city council orders your building to be demolished, you have the opportunity to go to the building, safety and environmental engineering department located in room 14 and request a deferral of the demolition order. This means that you must do the following. Provide proof of ownership or interest in the property. Pay all required inspection fees, secure all openings on your building from trespass and the elements and remove all the exterior debris, abandoned vehicles, overgrowth, et cetera. Pay or make arrangements regarding any delinquent city taxes. Obtain the necessary permits to bring your building into compliance with all applicable codes and submit a completed deferral application. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Mr. Washington. I will now turn it over to LPD. Thank you, Madam Chair. In addition to the overview of the nature and consequences of these hearings, just provided by a representative of the administration. People should be aware that in contrast to the more wide-ranging policy oriented discussions of the other sessions of this committee, these are legally required appellate administrative hearings from previous hearings, informal hearings with the Department of Building Safety Engineering and Environment about the approximately 80 dangerous buildings on today's dangerous buildings list. And rather than a full discussion of all the issues, uh what the law what the law directs the committee to do is to have a hearing on the question of whether the buildings are dangerous or not, as presented by the department representatives of the department are here in order to provide due process and so that the committee is fully informed with pictures and other information from the files. Thank you. Thank you. I will now turn it over to BC to introduce themselves. Thank you, Madam Chair. My name is Dili Portel. Um from the building and safety uh property maintenance tape. Thank you. Come on, Alaska Dangerous Building Clerk. Thank you both for joining us. Uh Javon Perry, I am reserved in this hearing today. I'm from DC. All right. Well, thanks for nice seeing you, Javon. Thanks for joining us. Um, you are going to be in good hands here with the team. So thanks everyone for your introductions and your overviews. Um, as has been shared, we are here to hear um from property owners directly. If you are looking to prevent your house from being demolished, or if you agree to demolish the property. Uh, if you are online and you are here for a hearing, please raise your hands now.

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