I would like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for today, Monday, May 4th, 2026.

May the clerk please call the roll.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Denzel Anton McCampbell.

Councilmember May Waters.

Present.

Madam Chair, you have a quorum.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Given a quorum, we'll go into the agenda for today.

We have received our minutes from our last session.

If there's a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Thank you.

Hearing no objections.

Our minutes will be approved from our last session.

Today, just want to share briefly a reminder that we do have a 1 30 p.m.

Dangerous Buildings hearings for anyone that might be tuned in early.

We will be back at 1 30 today for those discussions.

So we will see you then.

And just a note this might also truncate our time depending on how many folks we have online today.

Um, given how much we have to get through.

With that, we'll go into public comment for this morning.

Um, this is general public comments.

I see one person here in person uh for general public comments, and we can uh ask everyone online.

If you are online for public comment, please raise your hands now.

We're gonna begin with the folks that we have here first.

We have Brother Cunningham in person, and then we'll turn it over to our online public callers.

I'll cut off public comment at 10 05.

So if you're online, if you want to make sure someone you know should be joining us to have until 10 05 to join.

Please raise your hands now.

And how many hands do we have raised?

We have 13 hands online.

Okay, we'll give everyone two minutes for this morning's general public comment.

We'll begin first with Brother Cunningham.

Good morning, whenever you're ready.

I hope you all had a great weekend.

Um, 313, 444, 9114, 313, 444, 9114, 313, 444, 9114.

That number was made, so you can remember it.

Today at 2 o'clock at Fellowship Chapel Warriors, Warriors on Wheels will be having their uh meeting um over at Fellowship Chapel at 2 o'clock, um, two to four.

And so DDP and myself and some others made this breakdown sheet.

I like to give you their laminated, but uh it just breaks down if you if they're eligible for peer transit, what it is, how it is, because when I go around the city, I give out the applications to peer peer transit.

Uh I'll laminate some more and give them try to get them to the council tomorrow.

Are you having trouble catching the bus because of your vision or mobility?

Are long wait times without seating a problem for you?

You may be eligible for Pierre Transit, a curb to curb ride service for people in Detroit, Hamptramic Highland Park who have trouble riding the fixed line route bus due to disability.

If you uh if you use a wheelchair walker, white cane, have a service animal, or even if you're temporary disabled, um, Pierre Transit can help.

If you want further information, just hit me up 313-444-9114, and I can text you the pertinent information.

That's not all of it, but it breaks it down, something that was needed.

And so Elson cut words on wheels, DDP.

We collaborated with Bessa, and we came up with this uh breakdown of Pair Transit.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Brother Cunningham.

If the clerk can please note you've been joined by member McCampbell.

Thank you.

We can now turn it over to the folks that we have online.

Our first caller is Denise Darnell.

And then one second.

Yes, we can hear you, but I'm looking at the clock now.

Um we had two minutes.

Okay, just want to make sure that we turn that to two minutes.

Thank you so much.

So our first caller, I apologize.

The floor is yours.

Thank you.

Dr.

Darniell here.

I have what I consider some great news.

I heard one of our seniors at Mayor Sheffield's charter mandated meeting on DeQinder voice her concerns about getting home repairs done and how she's waiting on the city's home maintenance and repair program to work on her home.

I also have heard about our city of Detroit retirees whose pension was negatively affected by our bankruptcy years ago.

And I heard concerns about our young people who need job training and skills so that they can enter the workforce and become productive citizens.

I also want to get the word out about the skill traits task force, which I believe is an excellent initiative.

So therefore, I have started a nonprofit to address these very concerns called J Pauly.

My city council member Angela Whitfield Callaway has the information, and I will be advertising this far and wide to raise funds to serve, uplift, and empower others.

Our mission is to assist adults, including senior citizens and the disabled that need help with basic needs and living expenses, including home repairs, maintenance, and upkeep that other public or private resources haven't funded yet.

We also help fund young people who graduate from high school andor age out of foster care and need job training, business ownership training, housing, or assistance with transitioning into adulthood to become productive citizens to the best of their ability.

Thank you.

I can be reached at 947 51792.

God bless you.

Have a great day.

Thank you, ma'am.

Have a blessed day as well.

Thank you.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is phone number ending in 039.

Caller ending in 039.

You're up next.

Caller ending in 039.

If you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

You have been made a panelist.

You just have to unmute yourself.

We're gonna have to add you to the bottom of the queue.

So we'll go ahead and add you to the bottom of the queue.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is caller ending in 169.

Caller in 169.

Um, yes, can you guys hear me?

Yes, we can.

Great, great.

I just want to say, what up, though?

What up, though?

What up, though?

You, yes, you listening to this.

Thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

I believe you've muted yourself to our caller.

Sorry, we're gonna start your time over.

You mean can you guys hear me now?

We can hear you now, yes.

All right, thank you.

Um, yes, you listening to this.

Thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

Better than that, thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

Uh, thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

Um Cunningham's name should be Long Suffering.

Long suffering refers to the patient, uncomplaining endurance of prolonged hardship provocation or annoyance.

Long suffering refers to the patient, uncomplaining endurance of prolonged hardship, provocation or annoyance.

Long suffering refers to the patient, uncomplaining, endurance of prolonged hardship, provocation, or annoyance.

Thank you for my time.

Thank you for calling in.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is owner Papa.

Miss Carolyn Hughes.

Miss Hughes, if you can hear us.

We cannot hear you.

Miss Hughes.

I apologize, Miss Hughes.

We cannot hear you either.

You have been made a panelist, you just have to unmute yourself.

We're gonna have to add you to the bottom of the queue as well.

And just a reminder, everyone, I did cut off general public comments.

I mentioned that 1005.

So public comments is cut off.

We will go back to those two callers at the bottom of the queue, but who do we have next?

Our next caller is Cecily McLeland.

Thank you very much for this opportunity to speak again, Cecily McClellan speaking on behalf of uh we the people of Detroit.

Um the H2O program currently being operated by DWSD is insufficient.

It only is capable of servicing approximately 4,000.

We have over 60,000 residents in the city of Detroit who would be eligible for low-income water assistance program.

Water is a human right, and it is clean, safe, and affordable water must be afforded to all residents of the city of Detroit.

Currently, there is legislation and Lansing uh for uh a water affordability program.

It's uh House Bill 4555 and House Bill 5170 to 73.

We also would like to see the city council and particularly spearhead by this committee and ordinance that would support uh water affordability and let it be built into the budget.

Uh further, uh, I am a retiree of the city of Detroit and uh also a member of Diarrhea.

Uh that real will be meeting this coming Wednesday at 5 30 at uh St.

Matthew St.

Joseph's, and we meet every uh first month, uh first Wednesday of the uh month.

It's important.

Retirees took the brunk of the hit during the bankruptcy.

They are the seniors, they have been the vanguards and the fighters here in the city of Detroit.

It's important that they be restored.

Um the current right wing Supreme Court has wiped out uh the voters' right act.

Currently, uh, it is allowing the gerrymanding of all states and particularly in the south, then they're jumping on it right now.

It is so important that black and brown folks have a plan to vote and vote in mass numbers because at this point uh there will be very little representation, particularly in the southern states, if they have their way in terms of gerrymanding all of the maps.

Thank you very much for this opportunity.

Thank you.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Samsung.

Good morning, Mabby Heard.

Yes, good morning.

I want to first say congratulations to Dr.

Charles E.

Williams II on his doctor degree that he graduated from Michigan University in Ann Arbor.

I also wanted to say um, if I'm not mistaken, when uh the mayor first spoke about uh writing for the D dot, which was supposed it included the seniors, supposed to have been writing free.

I think it's supposed to start in July, because I know I had boarded up years ago when uh my mom was 11.

She had a free bus pass to ride.

So I think Mayor Sheffield said 60 and up, but we seniors need to get a break also, even though we're paying 50 cents now.

We should get free rides.

Um I uh was waiting on a bus on my Ross and Mac the other day, and the bus hadn't really pulled off.

And I knocked on the window in the back of the bus, and I know she had to hear me, but anyway, the uh the lady that was there that write down what issues that riders have, she wrote her, she got she wrote it down, so she's supposed to be speaking on that.

And uh also the uh funds that came in that was supposed to help a whole lot of us with home repair, car repair, washers, dryers, and other items for your house.

Uh money seems to be coming up all of a sudden, and we need to have that put back in play and have the people that have that.

I even have my paperwork.

I think it's about two years ago.

So those that have that paperwork that signed up for that, I would like to have that to go on to effect so we can get what we were supposed to be getting.

I mean, it was a lot of things that we supposed to have gotten, and it was shut down.

So I'll appreciate y'all find some money for that and bring it back to council so we can get what we were supposed to.

Thank you for taking my call.

Thank you.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Nini's friend.

Mr.

Crowley, good morning.

You're up next.

Mr.

Ruben Crowley, you are our next speaker.

If you can hear us, we cannot hear you.

You would just need to unmute yourself.

Mr.

Crowley, I apologize, but you are gonna have to be the third person at the bottom of our queue.

And I will ask for the next caller.

Our next caller is property owners need clarity.

Good morning.

Yes, good morning, maybe heard.

Yes, good morning.

Okay.

Well, I'm calling this committee because I'm seeking clarity.

Member Santiago Romero, please ask your staff for the emails that I was writing.

Why is it the land bank is telling people they can't have boards on their windows?

Yet there are favored developers that work with the land bank that have boards on their windows, no vacant building certificate whatsoever.

I also have photos of signs on houses.

It says the city of Detroit boarded up this house.

So we need clarity on whether people can have boards on their windows or not.

And I asked that question.

Mr.

Dillot Patel was there.

He said, Well, they're different jurisdictions.

It depends what jurisdiction people are with, if it's GSD, BC, or the land bank.

Now, member Waters knows, and I don't know why you don't listen to her that the nuisance abatement program is illegal.

So why is it somebody can go before DAH only pay a 250 ticket if they're vacant building certificate lapsed?

But yet the land bank wants to take title to a property because of vacant building certificate has lapsed and is saying you cannot have boards on your windows, but yet they contract with people who have boards on their windows.

And so I've I wrote to some people in your staff member Santiago seeking clarity since your chair of this committee, Mr.

McCampbell and Member Waters, please help too.

Can we board things up with windows or not?

Why did I get a vacant building certificate in the past with boards on windows?

But now I'm being told differently.

There's an awful lot of disparate treatment going on.

That means you can't people and you're not allowed to treat people differently under the charter, but that is what's going on.

So could we please get some clarity on this?

Because people want to may put board over one of the glass.

I will check in with my team, Miss Warwick, and um on this committee.

That is uh per city policy for safe buildings.

Um, but I will see clarity specifically to your case.

It might be something different.

Um, so I'm not actually sure.

So I will follow up with my team on the follow-up with you.

Thank you.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Betty A.

Varner.

Uh good morning.

This is Betty A.

Varner, president of DeSoda uh Association.

I'm hoping everybody had a fantastic weekend.

If there's anyone within the sound of my voice that is in need of vision care or dental care, free vision or dental care.

There is a uh clinic, the MELDA Medical and Dental Clinic.

The telephone number is 313 894240.

Again, 313894-2240.

You must call and make an appointment.

It is not a walk-in clinic.

The address is 10301 Woodward Avenue.

Again, 10301 Woodward Avenue, and that's Detroit.

I was told it's near uh Claremont zip code 48202.

There are four doctors at the clinic that see the patients.

The dental clinic operates Wednesdays through Fridays, 8:30 a.m.

to 2.

Again, Wednesdays through Friday, 8:30 a.m.

to 2.

That's for the dental clinic.

You will call and get additional information for the free vision uh services.

And if you are in need of glasses, after you have had your services, you can receive free glasses.

If you are not in need of these services, please share.

Thank you for this tab and God bless.

Thank you, ma'am.

Have a blessed day.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Emily Embick.

Hi, good morning.

Can you hear me?

Yes, good morning.

Good morning, Council members.

My name is Emily Embick, and I serve as the senior director of land use and community leadership at Urban Neighborhood Initiatives.

I work every day in Southwest Detroit alongside residents most impacted by environmental health disparities.

I'm here to express my strong support for the resolution recognizing air quality awareness week.

The American Lung Association recently gave Metro Detroit an F in its most recent state of the air report, ranking us among the worst in the nation for particle pollution.

Southwest Detroit residents feel that every single day.

At a time when federal rollbacks are weakening the air pollution protections, communities like ours depend on this resolution, and it sends an important signal that Detroit stands with its residents.

Thank you.

You as well.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is William M.

Davis.

Mr.

Davis, good morning.

I like to start out by saying that this was a fantastic weekend.

Uh, especially with the May Day events.

Um, I think we need to be more concerned about everybody in our community, and uh the fact that uh that was uh originally started here to help and support labor.

We need to be doing more to help them support labor.

I also would like to say that uh I 100% support what uh Dr.

Danell uh said and what Cecily McCullum.

I am also uh a city retire, as some of you may or may not know.

I think um there's a whole lot more the city can and should be doing, and the city should also be uh trying to straighten out the inequities between the two pension funds, and that my fund, the general pension fund, has fewer members than the other fund, has only one retiree on on our you know on our fund.

Uh you know, it's just the it's separate and unequal.

That continues to be the case.

Uh I think principally because my group, you know, the non-uniformed group is is more black, more brown, and more females than the other group.

And historically, the city was not always the perfect place to work.

Uh also I think the city can and should be doing more as it relates to interreacting with uh landown, you know, landlords and realtors about making sure the people are aware when they move into a house that the fact that there are cold violations that they have to be responsible for.

You know, uh this city can and should be cleaning it, like a number of other communities.

They let people move into new houses be you know, buying or renting, know what the coal violations are and what is expected.

We need to make sure that our city has the opportunity to be as clean as some of our surrounding communities to have stronger code enforcement.

Y'all have a nice day.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You as well.

Our next caller.

Our next caller is Black Bag.

Mr.

Crowley.

If you're suffering, you're up next.

We will begin your time whenever you begin your comment.

What's up?

We can begin this time.

Gabriela Santiago Romera, District 6, City Council member, city councilwoman, and liar.

I expose you as a liar.

Told that lie about the findings on the allegations of voter fraud by anonymous citizen report that you said you read on May the 9th.

That's a lie.

Now you were ushered into office by Raquel, Costaneta Lopez.

She was also a district six representative.

Now, I gotta come out the black bag on you.

I'm a whole Detroit legend.

Legendary Detroiter.

I don't put it out there that much because I got my reasons.

But I am, and I'm not lying about sugar honey ice tea.

One of the coldies over the last 45 years in the city of Detroit.

And you can't touch that.

Not in no way, shape, or form.

I am who I am.

You are who you are.

A cheated in public official, cheated in by absentee ballot fraud here in the city of Detroit, Michigan.

And I know no.

No, what I'm talking about.

So now I ain't got no choice to stop and eliminate the disciplation process is undergoing underway in the city of Detroit.

I got it exposed.

The alumni naughty.

I know.

Now you're gonna know.

Thank you.

Go blue.

Who do we have next?

Our next online caller is Jedante Smith.

See you're online here in person.

Would you like to speak, or would you like to not make a comment today?

If you would like to, yes, since you made it before public comment got caught off, I will allow you to speak.

I will state though, if you could please remain respectful to our EPU, I'd really appreciate it.

That was not nice to see.

Just wanted to mention that.

I know how.

I just I excuse me.

You're not allowed to speak at this moment.

I'm time can start now.

Good afternoon.

I want to say uh so Gabriella, I the go blue comment wasn't nice to Ruben Crowley, who happens to be my friend who put me on the rooms, who you have in your district and Kronos in District 3 is an issue that I wanted to meet with you about.

Look forward to having you hopefully vote.

Yes, I just talked to your chief of staff.

I wasn't gonna, I was gonna be very nice to you today.

I was gonna give you some commendations from your chief of staff who was very nice to me, but you just earned a lot of rage.

Anyway, I'm sure I want to say uh I have a sister in law who lived at the same address I live at now.

She moved out 25 years ago.

So just Friday, I got a uh a card in the mail from the Department of Elections that said that she's going to be purged in a voting rolls after 25 years.

She's registered to vote, she's had a driver's license several times over.

So Ruben Crowley talks about what uh Ramon Jackson, uh Pastor School talk about with election fraud, it is very real.

Why did you have to why we have to wait 25 years to have a person purge from voter roles?

Also, I have a motorcycle makeover shirt on because I uh participated in district three with Cranston Anderson.

Thank you for inviting me out.

Also, David Bill, when I see you today, David Bill, have some choice words for you.

No way that you're going in District 4 and going to do a photo op outside of a house that needs to be uh fixed up that has windows, it has doors, and it has shingles on the roof.

We have 451 East Crown Boulevard with no uh shingles on the roof, no windows, and it's in terrible condition.

My 176 foot pound frame could make the ports fall in.

Soaking wet.

That's a shame.

So does the district five and island view not deserve nice things.

Um, I was gonna say, too.

Really, really uh looking forward to meeting everybody on city council about Kronos.

I've reached out to uh Scott Benson's office, but Tiana Bait does not see Mass of the Phone, she's a scheduler, and also when it comes to EPU, Officer Lovingston cusses at me, she used profane language, she called me a criminal in front of my son.

I don't deserve that.

I'm a community steward.

I do good work in my community.

I don't give a sugar, I don't give a F U C K what she told you.

She's rude to me, she's impolite, and also Conrad Mellet, I ain't forgot about you.

I'm still coming.

Look forward to it.

Come in for that bar license.

Thank you, Jadante.

And and just so you know, I don't care.

That's that's incredibly helpful to know.

Thank you.

Madam Chair.

Member McCampbell.

Uh, just on the the topic of the purging.

Um, if you can follow up with us on just the information, because I know there are steps and it comes to purging, and I know there's a time limit, so definitely want to check into that just to make sure it's all good there.

I'll bring the car for you, no problem.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

Hope you have a blessed day, Jadante.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Cindy Dara.

Miss Dara, you're up next.

Cindy, if you can hear us, we cannot hear you.

Oh, Cindy, we might have to add you to the bottom of the queue as well.

I believe there's two since the third uh was Mr.

Crowley.

Cindy, can you hear us?

I will add you to the bottom.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Gwendolyn Howard.

Last name, Howard.

You are up next.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Thank you for taking my call.

May I be heard?

Yes.

Um, first, uh, I do want to make a comment.

You guys are very low.

Um, your voice and the person that's calling the names, your volume is very low.

I have system up to uh high as it can be, but as people speak, I can hear them loud and clearly.

But you ever if you move a little bit, we can hear you more, but the your volume is very low, and the person that's calling the names.

But good morning.

How are we the people of Detroit?

And I want to ditto everything Mama Cecily um said earlier, and that the H2O program is not um, we need some more information on it.

There has not been much talk about it since they put out the HBO H2O program, and we want to know what can we tell the people that call us inquiring about what's going on, what's going on.

With that being said, uh also back for the retirees because I have um family members that have retired city employees that don't have scared, the other two are not gonna retire because they won't have city insurance.

How does the city not take care of the people that take care of it?

So I think they need to revisit that as well.

But um, for the most part, water is a human right, and we need to look into into the um legislation that's on the board right now, and we're gonna um talk a little bit more about it with city council.

But the House Bill 4555 and the House Bills 5071 to 5073.

We need you guys to look at that, and then um, as we um venture into getting closer to when it comes to to play into play, we want you to know what's going on.

So please read those bills.

Uh, and and um we we want we need your support.

This is all about the city, and it's about safe, cleaning, affordable water for everyone.

Thank you and have a great day.

Thank you as well.

We are going back to the top of the queue with phone number 039 caller ending in 039 going once caller ending in 039.

We do have to move on to the rest of the agenda.

Going twice.

Caller end.

All right, thank you so much.

We heard from you already.

Who do we have next?

Our last caller is owner Papa, Miss Carolyn Hughes.

If you can hear us, we cannot hear you.

Uh, good morning, and through the chair, may I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Good morning.

I'm calling about um 5.4.

It is uh a due diligence uh contract for millions of dollars.

And I'm wondering when how long is this been in in effect?

Because if you have a due diligence for environmental problems, I don't know how we ended up with all these dirty holes.

I read an article in Bridge Magic magazine with um uh the ex-Mayor Duggan, who said that uh this should be um all sorted out by March of this year, and um we're this is May, and um I'm wondering why he said it would be eight million dollars to clean up and we're and we're running around doing all these other things when why don't we just clean up the dirt?

Why are we paying them 4.5 million dollars for due diligence, which we know didn't occur?

So why don't we take the he said it would be 8 million dollars?

You mean to tell me that Detroit doesn't have 8 million dollars to just go out and clean up the dirty dirt holes?

Um, we're giving away 42 million dollars to plug a hole for corporate America.

I do believe that we deserve um uh a clean environment like everyone else, not just District 6 or Southwest Detroit.

The entire city was got an F, not just one area.

We all got enough, and I'm asking you to remove these all of these humps that you have all over the street.

That if you look at the report, they increase particulate matter by exponentially, and if you truly care about the people in the city of Detroit, you'll stop with the foolishness because that's foolish.

I I never had an accident on all my street in the last 40 years.

I don't need traffic quelling uh uh particulate matter producing devices on my street to poison our children and our air.

This is ridiculous, and you need to stop.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Hughes.

Hope you have a blessed day.

I believe that was our last caller.

Okay, given our last caller, we will go into the rest of the agenda for today.

Okay under unfinished business, uh 5.1.

I would like to discuss 5.1, 5.2, and 5.3 together.

These are our three returning ambulance contracts.

Um, if there's a motion to do so, motion to disclose.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

I believe we have the fire department here with us if you wouldn't mind joining us here at the table.

Um we moved these out for folks that are following along and moved these out.

Um, noting the need, um heard some concerns.

So we wanted to bring this back into committee before moving it forward so that we completely understood the plan and address the concerns.

Um, and also make sure that we have what we need as far as coverage for the city, and that we are making sure that Detroiters are uh receiving their ambulance services as needed.

Um, so I won't these I won't read these contracts out again for the for the record.

I'll just read the numbers out.

Um contract number six zero zero seven seven three seven.

This is five point one.

Um I will note these are being proposed for three years each.

Um, and we'll just note um that five points two.

This is contract number six zero zero seven seven two seven and five point three six zero zero seven seven four one.

Um all have been reading to the record in the past.

Thank you both for being here.

I see you have a presentation for us.

Um, really, I think for us, we want to make sure um that we understand the need for these contracts.

There were a lot of questions around the possibility of on off ramping uh these private contracts and bringing this into into the in in-house and would like to hear uh what that looks like.

So whenever you're ready, who would ever like to begin?

Introduce yourselves, name and title.

Thank you.

First off, uh good morning, and I just want to say thank you to all council members for you know all your continued support and uh how you guys you know support the fire department and everything that we do every day.

Um my name is Derek Hillman, I'm the deputy commissioner of the fire.

Good morning.

Uh Alice Mill, Chief of Staff to the Detroit Fire Department, and I want to echo what Deputy Commissioner Hillman said.

We really appreciate how thoughtful you all have been in our in our meetings and with your staff members, it really means a lot, and I really appreciate the partnership that we have all created or building um and look forward to more discussion.

So thank you so much for having us here today.

All right.

Um, so just to kind of go through what we uh have in front of you today.

Yes, member McCampbell.

Um I just want to know because I know there was a uh speaker who talked about volume.

Um so just for media services, if we could just make sure that the volume is up high enough.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

I think they did that here.

I know definitely in in the cowitz louder.

Hopefully, folks can hear us online.

Um that was the comment that was made.

Thank you.

Thank you.

No, no, no, thank you, Member McCampbell.

Um, DC.

Yep, and through the chair.

Um, what we want to discuss today are these ambulance contracts and and the need for them, how critical it is, but also you know, the end state of where we would like to get to.

So, first uh let's just kind of give an overview of where we are today.

These current contracts cover approximately 25% of the call volume for the city.

Um, prior to these contracts, our EMS response was over eight minutes, uh, and those were for the code one responses.

Those are the most urgent critical responses.

Somebody uh in cardiac arrest and you know, dire need of an ambulance.

Um, we do have our our fire and um I want to say our engines and our squads also respond, so they do help us uh with that response time, but 35% of the time the ambulances do arrive first.

So um this exponentially then becomes important because as soon as we got these contracts, we you we could see our rate come down, and now we're under around seven minutes and twenty seconds, and the national average is about nine minutes.

So we're doing an amazing job as far as our our men and women out there responding to these emergencies.

They're getting there in record times right now for our department.

So you can um see the exponential increase in the response.

Um the next thing so our another overview of this, right?

So we currently have two our for the Detroit fire department 26 ambulances that respond 24-7 every single day.

Um these other ambulances, we have 16 to 18 of them.

Four of them are on 24 hour shifts, and the other 14 of them are on peak shifts.

So that gives us that additional supplemental during our peak times to to help us maintain these low response times.

Um, as a as a city, we respond to 450 medical calls every single day.

Um transport over 300 patients daily.

Since we've implemented this, our reflex times have continued to go down, and working with these private companies, it's really made an effect on our response times and getting that quality service that the citizens deserve.

Also, I'd like to talk, um, it's not on the slide, but our utilization rates, right?

Our utilization rates before these contracts was up near 80 to 90 percent.

So that means 89% of the time our units were out doing medical work.

They had no time for training, they had no time for uh getting back and getting the supplies they would need and different things along that lines.

So with these contracts, it was critical for them to get that downtime to supplement that.

So when we did that, it brought our utilization rates down to around 50 to 40 percent, which then gives our staff that time away from responding all the time, stops that burnout, stops that you know, calling in sick all the time.

These are critical aspects to making sure that our members of the Detroit fire department are taken care of daily.

Um so having said that, right now we have 498 uh personnel on the department that can work on an ambulance.

Um if we were to hire people or off the street, because we hire off the street, it takes six to nine months to train that individual uh to become a functioning person on that um ambulance.

Um this would cost approximately with their salaries and at least 80 to 90,000 dollars per person.

So an annual cost to increase to where we need to go to offset these ambulances would be anywhere from uh eight to eleven million dollars annually.

So that that'd be a huge increase compared to the 1.5 million that we're currently spending on these contracts.

That's not including the next thing, which is the equipment.

So right now we have 40 ambulances right now on our DFD fleet.

We have probably last number I looked at about 29 of them are in service and ready to be deployed.

The other ones are you know in maintenance issues, accidents, and other things along that lines.

So um, but to increase to get up those we'd have to buy a person purchase an additional 20 ambulances, which would cost anywhere from five to six million dollars.

That five to six million dollars would only start if we hit the button today, that purchase those, right?

But it takes 18 to 24 months to purchase and receive those ambulances, so that that takes a time to build out these ambulances.

Um so approximately all together with equipment and uh that you have the life saving equipment, the EKGs, the stretchers, the chest compressors, all that different stuff.

Annually, it's a 20 million dollar increase to the budget, and it costs 1.5 million for the current contracts.

Um, the department is currently in labor negotiations, so this could exponentially go up even after we have our contract negotiations signed.

So to lay out an exact three-year plan, we'd like to do that after we have our contract signed with the union, so that way we can walk through with each of the council members what that would look like, what the costs would look like, but we are not opposed.

Let me say that we are not opposed to bringing everything in-house, but we want to be fiscally responsible with the city's money and have a solid plan that doesn't overburden and reduce response times.

So chief of staff, you have anything else?

Oh, thank you.

And through the chair, I just really wanted to add an item that we did not list on here, and that's facilities.

So currently our apparatus is at Eastern Market, but if we are to increase um our fleet and our maintenance, we would need a bigger space.

So that is a factor that we have not added in here.

Um we want to have that discussion because if we see that traffic uh with repairs and just even space, uh, we definitely need to be looking at a bigger, more uh comprehensive space um for those vehicles and for the staff.

And through the chair, one more last thing is when she also says space, this would be deployment space out in the the community too.

We'd have to look at building on to some of these fire stations and adding uh more resources out in the community.

Okay, thank you.

I appreciate this.

Um I guess one question that just came up for me.

Prior to these private contracts, we just had a slow response time.

So we with these contracts added capacity.

We didn't remove the work from current set uh fire, we just added more capacity, 25% more capacity to reduce our call times to better our service.

Through the chair, uh that's an excellent point, and thank you for bringing that up.

So, previous to this contracts, we actually were behind the eight ball and to a certain degree.

We only had 13 to 15 ambulances of our own.

So for the past three years, we have been staffing up and staffing up and to get us to the current 26 even.

So having said that, they're still taking off 25% because our our call our incident and call volume has continuously every year went up.

So without these, it would be a pretty bad situation out there staffing wise.

Okay, thank you.

That's that's helpful.

Um and and quite frankly, understanding the difference in cost is huge.

This is why we're pushing for more revenues.

This is why I am asking that we tax better so that we're able to have more so that we're able to have better public safety, um, that everyone gets to enjoy both residents and and and visitors alike.

Um I know there's a big push right now that we make these into one-year contracts to really pressure the administration to think creatively um to prioritize.

Um not sure if this is a answer that you have or for procurement, but I'm assuming that would require going back and renegotiating these contracts, correct?

Uh, through the chair, I I don't know the answer.

I had to talk to um uh OCP about that, but even if we did one year, um I it would still take us, like I said, you know, two to three years to truly implement an off-ramp for um these these units, and um that that's what I'd like to discuss, you know, once we get the contract signed with the with the union, so that way we can actually fiscally lay this out and make sure that we're doing our due diligence.

Okay, okay, thank you.

So then just to confirm, um, and I know that we are currently there is coverage, so for anyone listening right now, the city went into an emergency contract, so there is coverage, so just want to confirm that, right?

So we currently there's coverage, there's no existing gaps in services.

Uh through the chair, there is no existing gaps.

You're correct.

Okay.

I have other questions, but I'm gonna turn it over to my colleagues if they have any as well.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, madam chair.

Good morning, uh everyone.

Uh thank you for being here.

And uh I and also um diving deeper into the details on this.

I do have a few questions on um on this what regarding the ramping up.

I know during the uh budget we talked about capital funding and in regards to public safety vehicles.

Um just want to know if you know how many in this FY27 budget that's upcoming, how many uh additional rigs are we uh planning to order?

Um through the chair, I I don't know the exact number of order, but I know in November we're gonna be receiving 10.

Okay, but that's gonna be offsetting uh some of the ones that are coming off that um are need to become out of service to be honest with you.

And do you know how many need to come out of service?

Right now, at least 10 to 12.

Okay.

So it's it's almost it's gonna be a one-for-one at this point.

Okay, and do you know if those were ordered with fiscal year 26 dollars or okay?

Um it would be good to get the numbers for uh fiscal year 27 because that was one thing, even the negotiations.

Um we didn't touch that because uh it was said that that was needed, so it would be good to know uh what additional and how many of that will add to the system fleet.

Um I I know you also talked about um I understand that there are contract negotiation and the cost there.

I will say as the uh Madam Chair alluded to we know the all the kind of offset of contractual services, but also in-house, I believe it provides a better uh system of accountability, not only for the department and the city council, but also residents um and also for EMT um as we're trying to get more and more detrotors uh into that work.

Uh we have a better control over that.

Um so I know it costs more, but I believe the trade-off is better for our city and our residents and that and and I had a question on um on the utilization rate of the previous contracts.

Uh how have did we was it 100% utilized?

Because I know there's been some talk of that these are just standby, so we may not be having to use the full contract amount, but do we have any thought on the previous utilization rate?

Yes.

Uh through the chair.

So the previous contracts, we did put in a contingency in those previous contracts, and they weren't used 100% because we are accountable for um with those contracts to make sure whatever they're in service they get paid for.

And then also within the contract, we did put that we can uh uh with give them a 30-day to 14 day notice to uh adjust the deployment.

So that gives us the ability within these contracts to start uh pulling down as we need and we see fit.

Okay.

And did that so they weren't 100% used this last correct and do we for since we are with since we have ramped up in the past couple of years, do we see I'm just thinking about the contract amount here?

Um do we see that being a lower utilization rate with these contracts since we have ramped up?

We have um based these contracts and our current need.

Okay, so um we want to maintain this level and then as we adjust, we can adjust the the amount that's uh created in a purchase order to them.

Okay, gotcha.

And then on the uh on the actual folks that are carrying out the service, um, I have heard concerns about the quality of training.

So what role does the department play in ensuring that the EMTs have the level of training um that our the EMTs within the department have so that residents aren't missing out on that quality?

Yep.

Uh great question and through the chair, uh that is a great question because they fall under our Demka Proto call and I'll fall under our uh medical direct director, Dr.

Dunn.

So he makes sure that they have a certain level of quality assurance within their programs, and then we actually meet with them on a monthly basis to go over different uh situations and make sure that their response times are are right where we need them to be.

And also if we have any system consistent complaints, there's a formal way to do that.

So we are um we use them and maintain them just like one of our units to make sure that that quality of service is is quality and not just out there.

And what then thank you for that and within the contract, what is the um if there is a company that has constant complaints, what's the protocol there?

Do we not use them as much?

How what is the way that we have to say this is not up to par?

Uh we don't we no longer want the services.

Yep, and through the chair, we have the option in the contract to terminate for for cause and and and reduce if we want to to shift how that may be.

So there is a lot of flexibility within these contracts that allow us to do exactly what you're talking about.

Thank you.

And two more questions, Madam Chair, on that.

Um you talked about the former process for the residents that are listening.

Um, whether it's DFD um uh folks or the contractors, what is the way that folks can put in those complaints if they don't believe their service has been up to par.

Uh so I don't have it right in front of me, but you can actually there's a uh way to go online and file through the Department of Health, Health and Human Services, and then they can send a complaint down, and that complaint can come all the way through, and we actually that's a formal uh complaint process.

Okay, thank you.

I can share that link with with your office and and with uh the members here.

Please do, thank you.

And the last question, um uh Madam Chief of Staff, you mentioned uh the fleet and maintenance, and I know that has been a conversation just on the quality of uh the facilities we we have with DFD.

As those plans are on the capital project plans are coming out, are we considering the need as because we know that ramping up is already part of the plan?

Are we considering the need as we look at if we're building new or renovating to host more or to hold more rigs there?

Um through the chair, that is part of the discussion with the staff and also with the GSD that um manages and handles our fleet and our fleet maintenance.

Um, but that is a an ongoing discussion between you know different departments and also including finance um and procurement on the timeline of things as as our apparatuses come in and then what it would look like if we were going to expand or if we're looking for additional space um throughout the city.

I know we've been um also working with the DBA at looking at current city properties to um potentially store more equipment there.

Um so that could also be part of the bigger plan as we're looking at ramping up.

Um if we did find a city-owned property that would make sense to um um to hold our apparatus.

When I say apparatus, I mean our fire bricks, our ambulances, other gear that we use for special events, um for the water and um everything else.

So that is a discussion that we have ongoing with the DBA that we have been looking at additional space, um, but it also has to you know coincide with um our ramp up plan and then our finance plan as well.

Absolutely.

I will say I know uh later on this year, I believe city council be considering a capital projects um as well.

So I would love to for us to be in constant conversation about this, um, because we just want to make sure it all matches and that it all lines up so that we're not that we can do this on a uh a thoughtful basis that is um mindful of our finances, but again, to serving the residents in the best way.

Um also on these contracts, uh, it would be good, um, madam chair, if we could uh if we could, you know, if these contracts do go through um to get you know quarterly updates on the status of them um on the utilization of the contracts and also any complaints um that come out of that just so we can do our due diligence and making sure that we're having that oversight there.

All right, that's all I have.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

Appreciate it.

Umber Waters.

Thank you.

Um good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Um I certainly um echo the concerns of my colleagues.

Um how and I and I certainly have a tremendous concern when it comes to the whole fiscal aspect of this of this whole thing.

Um, because that is exactly what we should be concerned about.

Uh so how long will it take you to develop a plan outlining the steps of bringing things in-house?

How long will it take you to develop that plan, or you cannot develop it until after you're done with negotiations, but just kind of give us a window because I I kind of like to see a step-by-step plan like what happens in year one, what happens in year two, you know, number of employees, uh, number of rigs, or whatever, whatever that might be.

Are you able to sho to outline such a plan?

Sure.

Uh, through the chair.

Um to do that, we definitely would feel more comfortable to have the cost associated with that to lay out that with the new with the new contract with uh our union.

Um, as far as putting that together, I'd imagine we could do that in 30 to 60 days and have a fairly uh robust plan for the council members.

But I would like to wait until we actually had some solid projected numbers instead of just guessing.

Yeah, well, we don't want you guessing, it's too much to say.

Um what are negotiations done?

We're currently right in the middle of them.

Right.

So it could be a month, it could be two months.

You just you're not sure.

It could be six months to a year, depending on if it goes you could it even go to uh arbitration through the chair.

It could yes, ma'am.

Okay, all right.

So um I know that some of my colleagues, we all are, I believe, uh concerned about our constituents being charged money by both the city and private ambulances over what they uh you know if Medicare only pays for this much, if Medicaid only pays that much, and if the city only pays it, we don't want you charging our constituents additional dollars.

And so that is the reason for the ordinance that I requested.

I'm hoping that I can get uh fast track on that ordinance, and I hope that my colleagues will join uh me on it, because colleagues, it basically was just say um in order to protect Detroiters from having charges for EMS services.

So if if EMS gets paid, for example, 40 dollars, um, then but they say that they're owed an additional 20 dollars.

I'm just using that as an example.

They cannot come after our constituents uh for that extra money.

So and that's what the ordinance will do, and I hope that um we can all sponsor such an ordinance because I believe that we're all concerned about about those costs.

And and I think for and sooner LPD can draft such an ordinance, the sooner we can bring those protections for uh for our residents.

Um so uh we we've requested it already.

It's uh it's in East Gribe.

So we'll see how how I think we can probably get the ordinance done before they finish with negotiations for sure, because as soon as as the ordinance is ready, uh colleagues, those protections will go into place, and then we can deal with the the build out of bringing things uh in-house uh as well, but immediately we can certainly provide some protections for our residents.

Thank you, Member Waters.

I was going to ask that question as well.

Um so really grateful that you're moving forward with that.

Um, because they did have questions around um what we can do.

So, yeah, whenever that's ready, happy to review and and definitely want to be able to support uh making sure we're not overcharging residents.

Um so we will review that for sure.

Um any other comments or questions, Member Waters?

Um, that is it, thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Um last few things for me on this is I'm gonna also just mention I believe with these contracts, there's a rating.

Is it IO or OI?

Um ISO.

There's an ISL rating that that is good right now in Detroit because we do have good response time.

So for that I'm grateful.

I am grateful that FIRE is looking for creative solutions, but now we are here with this challenge, and that's okay.

We're gonna work through it.

Um just want to share, because I know the administration is listening.

This really again goes down to the money that we have, the money that we need and how we prioritize it.

Um myself and many council members are pushing for more revenues so that we can invest it in things just like this.

We know this is gonna be a hard fight, but it needs to happen.

This changes needs to happen at the state level, or we're going to continue to have these problems.

So let's do this.

And the other thing too is member McCampbell, to your point about quarterly updates.

I I wonder if we bring fire for quarterly updates, if it can be not just around our ambulance responses doing, but around how the build-out conversations are going as well.

Um, and you mentioned the capital um vote coming up before council.

I will say, since I've been here, we have not been investing in fire as much as we should.

Uh so I will I will give you that we need to invest more in fire so that they're able to to to better respond.

But I I do believe that fire is is investing a lot in staffing, a lot in EMT, making sure that we and we know we have a reporter that is less from reporting to fire, right?

And for me, that's good jobs to me, and and we need good jobs for our residents to be able to be able to stay in their homes.

So this is a very holistic thing that we can be addressing, not just the response times, but providing Detroiters good jobs so they're able to be in their homes, so that we're able to have a healthy, wealthier uh city.

Because we need we we need all of these things.

So just so you know that's where my head is, and that's why I'm pushing for this.

I do believe if we bring this to the house, is it'll be better uh opportunities for Detroiters, better services, and just want to note um with all this investment and with all these priorities, really want to talk about how we can be be working smarter, not harder, be working together, because I still believe that as we're investing in fire and EMT that you are also better equipped to response to mental health.

And I know that a lot of that funding is in police.

If that funding was shifted over to fire to still do the work, can that help us also address these funding issues that we have?

Who knows?

But I'll but these are the conversations that we need to be having.

Um, and I think these are the quarterly updates that I would like to, or the quarterly conversations that I would like to be having.

How is the build out going?

How is staffing?

What are we thinking about?

This whole how are we thinking about this holistically?

And then if you want to give us updates about the ambulances as well, that would be a good time.

Okay, colleagues.

Any other questions for these contracts?

We just have a lot more to do, it looks like.

Um, member McCampbone, uh, is there a motion for these three contracts?

Motion to send line items 5.1 through 5.3 uh to formal with a recommendation to approve or to new business with a recommendation to approve.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, 5.1 through 5.3 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you all.

We'll see you soon.

Thank you.

Moving us along to 5.4.

5.4.

This is contract number 6005, excuse me, 6006589, amendment number one utilizing 100% blight funding.

This is to provide an increase of funds for environmental due diligence.

The contractors, Monique and Smith Group.

They're in Detroit's.

This is for three million.

This is for an increase of three million five hundred, and this will be for construction and demolition.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 5.4?

Motion to discuss.

Discussion, Vice Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I so on this contract, I I understand the need for us having to go and make sure that the test is there, that we're doing our due diligence around environmental aspects, especially around um the contaminated sites.

I'm just really struggling with this because I believe that this should have been done on the front yeah.

Um, I believe that we should have the due diligence should have been there from the start.

Um, I also believe that uh Detroit should not be on the hook of um really uh malfusers and and folks not following the rules.

Um, and so as we're talking about where revenue and priorities and funding should be going.

Um it is hard for me as we're talking about the need to ramp up our fire department and the department that has been doing what they need to be doing to get quality service for our residents, and then to have an additional three million dollars, 3.5 million.

No one that I understand the need here.

Um, but this should have been done on the back end.

And we still have open sites for that folks are calling in about.

I'm not satisfied with the response that I've gotten about um the why those sites are still there and also the safety there.

So I just wanted to voice this because I I I'm at a place where I'm I am not in a place to support this contract, um, because I think we should have been doing more to protect our residents.

So that's what I'll say there.

Um, and just want to have that point of discussion.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

And I I see your hand to the law department.

Just want to share.

I wholeheartedly agree and understand.

Um agree with the sentiments I am and I'm glad that our law department can give us an update from my biggest concern is cost recovery, and uh whether or not we can get paid back for this work.

Um at the end of the day, if we can't, someone still needs to fix this for Detroiters.

And and if we don't, then that doesn't happen.

So that is where I'm at, and that's my concern.

Uh but to the law department.

Through the chair, Graham Anderson Law Department.

Yes.

No, these these are fantastic questions and very real concerns by uh both council members and and I know this body as a whole um has uh been very uh concerned and for good reason on this matter.

To start with cost recovery, we at the law department were not directly trying to get cost recovery for the money spent on this contract.

However, part of uh our strategies in pursuing this would go to total damages that we would bring in our action in cost recovery.

So it's not just potentially this matter that we're trying to recover cost from.

This is one piece in a larger scale of us trying to bring in um uh funds for that we rightfully should not have spent um, in our opinion, and the Detroit taxpayers should not have to spend.

So we we absolutely hear you um when it comes to cost recovery that is action is being pursued.

However, I will say as well, um Gyanga has a long list of creditors.

Um uh and we're one of many.

Um but we will do everything we can in our power to collect as much as possible, and I won't get more into detail from there.

In regards to this should have been done at the front end, it's my understanding that there was some testing done at the front end.

I I don't know all the details, I don't have all the facts, and I can't get into all the facts at this time.

However, I will say we can't go back in time.

And what we can do is move forward and do what we can to make sure our residents are protected and safe, and that we're doing everything possible to make sure that we're not dealing with situations like this again in the future.

Um I as for this specific contract in particular, from what I've been told these um uh Manic and Smith do a wonderful job.

This is much needed work, it's valuable work, and uh we're um uh well we they they would do a great job in um helping us move forward with these matters.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And just for clarity, attorney Anderson, you mentioned that we're not looking to do cost recovery for these contracts, but we are looking for total damage.

And then you mentioned that you will be adding that to total damage.

Can that be said instead of saying it that way because it's confusing, can we say that you are going to be looking for cost recovery for this, including the full damage?

Through the chair, that's correct, yes.

Um if I would jump to internal operations, and when we talk about no fault matters all the time as an analogy, think of this as one of the doctor bills that are trying to be recovered, and there are multiple doctor bills that we are trying to be recovered.

So this is just one of those doctor visits, if that is a helpful analogy.

I maybe I your your answer was helpful.

Um just you also mentioned it sounds like maybe Gianga owes too much to many people and we shouldn't expect to get paid.

Through the chair, I wouldn't say that.

Uh but I would say that I just am in the habit of promising low and exceeding expectations.

Okay.

I understand that as well.

My my biggest I have so many concerns in this, but but something else.

To member McCampbell's point.

We gave Ganga a lot of contracts.

And we trusted procurements and the process and construction and demolition that and we asked the questions, and you know, we get the TEDA reports, we get the boxes crossed, right?

And still we're here.

And this is why people doesn't don't trust the government, right?

Like this is like we we ask the questions we try, and and here we are.

Um, and we're being asked to pay and fix, but still we have more contracts, and so we have more work.

So, where are we going to truly ensure protections and ensure ensure good service?

LPD.

Thank you.

Uh all these points are being very ably articulated, and everybody gets an A for effort.

It's very difficult.

The only thing I try to add is it's very, very difficult to talk about at the same time.

Sound public policy by a legislative committee and the results of litigation against a malefactor, right?

You know, we definitely everything that's being said is very, very on point, except to the extent that that's comparing apples and oranges to a certain extent.

Got to do both of them.

And certainly uh from what I was just hearing you say, the question of why somebody who does something like this should get more contracts is very live for this body.

But then those other questions about well, how much money can we expect to get back?

You know, that's gonna be considered that's gonna be considered in court at some point, I would think.

And the last I heard was that the FBI just started an investigation to this, an extensive uh experience, but I have some experience working with the FBI.

They don't like to share their information about their investigations.

So I would think some patience and some time to work this thing out in terms of the liability thing is gonna be the key.

I hope that helps.

Thank you, LPD Heard.

And I and I I do appreciate that.

Um you're here with us.

We're gonna get the calls every week.

Um, you know, and and this way we have to ask the questions.

Any other questions, concerns from my colleagues regarding uh this contract?

Um the chair, if I may.

Um to your point of the process, uh I'm not aware of a particular chain that was broken that caused this to happen.

If if that can be identified, obviously I'm I'm confident all parties would work to resolve that issue, and whether that's an ordinance that would need it to be added, or if it's something um enforcement-wise, but what whatever that need be, um I I have full confidence that um all actors at the city of Detroit would work tirelessly to resolve that issue with uh city council's guidance, of course.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I see your hand, member McCampill, just briefly to LPD.

You mentioned that you worked with the FBI before.

And I did they do they ever share not just the results of their findings, but maybe best practices, the way that we often get from the auditor general or etc.

Best practice, that's a good question.

I mean, I I'm sure they could be asked to example, for example, to put on some kind of a presentation about best practices, sure.

Uh, they did at one point one of their uh one of their um special agents participated in a kind of orientation for previous counsel organized by former council president, not not the current mayor.

So they they do sometimes.

What I was thinking of was that I followed the specifics of a procedure, and I don't recall whether it was spelled out in court rules or statutes, but I was in litigation in a civil case, and there was information in the federal FBI investigation that was relevant to that, and by following the strict requirements of the statute of the court rule, whichever it was, or both, I was able to get a meeting with them and get the information.

But you had to jump through a bunch of hoops and they they keep it under tight control.

If you're not in litigation, you probably have to wait.

Okay.

That's that's my the best of my memory.

Okay, understood.

Um, just a note for all of us and into the administration.

If once all this is done, if if we can learn from it, um, because there is dirty dirt somewhere.

How did that happen?

How do these things happen if we can learn and do better next time?

Um that would be much appreciated.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

And uh thank you both for the insight on this.

I understand that we can't go back.

Um I understand that this is yet another federal investigation.

We know that there was another investigation um in the years past around uh demolition program.

I know that was with the land bank, you know.

I it is one thing I know we cannot talk.

We can't we can follow all the process and malfeasance happened, and that's the thing that we're trying to have accountability here.

I think it is also just the view that we have talked about time and time again on this committee of the view of demolition, period, right?

And the rush and the the amount of demolition that occurred um that leads to something like this um, in my view, happening.

Um, and uh and us now having to go back.

So now we are dealing with a situation where we are having to be asked to pay to rectify this.

Um we are we also now have um holes throughout the city um that pose a safety threat.

We also have questions now about um whether or not the cont the contaminated soil or the soil is safe for our residents.

So I I understand the aspect of there are bad actors here, but I also I also hope that this is used, and I know the administration, the current new administration has been rolling out things to ensure that this does not happen again.

But I think at the table here, as we we push for caution on a lot of things that are happening, um, it is because of this reason um that we're not trying to get to a place where we're having to go back whether it is to pay to fix um uh uh malfeasance, or it is to say, oops, we moved too fast, and now we're a place that we have a housing crisis and we don't have a housing stock to solve it, right?

So that's the point that I'm bringing up here is that the extra step to say, are we crossing all the uh T's and down every I um are folks hiding something?

Uh how do we make sure that that doesn't happen?

And I'm at a point that I I still don't know.

Um I have my I'm gonna speak from the eye is that I have not seen that yet.

So as we're being asked to provide yet another 3.5 million on this, I just have difficulty in supporting that.

So that's that's what I'll add there.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

Brief response to the chair.

I mean, I that's exactly what I meant to say.

Is that that is per perfectly appropriate, and I think the citizens should be very satisfied with the council going through that and saying, wait a minute, this nothing like this should ever happen again.

And as we go forward, asking the questions, and then at some point, hopefully, we'll be able to go back and find out what happened in more detail after a thorough after a more thorough investigation, especially with the FBI being involved, and we can do that too.

But I thought that through the chair, member McCampbell's points made the point that I was trying to make exactly about if you know we can't worry about liability right now, we don't know all the facts of what happened, but we do have the capacity to examine our own contributions, talk to city people and say, you know, okay, what are we thinking about?

How are we gonna fix this?

Thank you.

All right, colleagues.

I think if we don't feel comfortable, it makes sense that this be sent out without recommendation.

I don't feel comfortable sending this out with a recommendation to deny um because that would be denying fixing this problem, which I don't agree with as well.

I I think this is just gonna be a hard pill to swallow.

Um, and a conversation that I welcome at the full table.

Um, but that's those are my thoughts.

At the moment, I cannot make a motion.

Through the chair.

Uh Attorney Anderson.

If I may make a recommendation, we could move this forward and not move it to new business.

That would allow additional time.

Um, if anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to uh speak with their teams.

Okay, and just a note if we move things out without recommendation, it does not mean deny.

And oftentimes our colleagues will ask us why, and that opens up the opportunity to to have these conversations at the table.

Um also happy to move this.

I don't believe we were going to move this out to new business.

Uh, there's a recommendation to do so though.

Um, there's a request for new business.

Um the chair, that's not necessary.

Okay, I spoke with the administration.

Okay, understood.

Colleagues.

Any ultimate motions, Madam Chair.

Member McCampbell.

I so that the conversation can happen, so that there can be resolution to where the existing problem is right now, um, so we can get on the process of getting these um holes filled and making sure that there's safety here.

I'll put forth a motion to send to formal with no recommendation.

Okay.

Are there any objections?

Hearing on, we will send 5.4 to formal session without recommendation.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Thank you, everyone, for discussing.

Uh this does not feel good in one's body.

Um we will continue to discuss this in committee.

Um, noting that we need patience for the investigation.

Um, but we will probably have more discussion about this at formal session as well.

So thank you, everyone.

I will continue to move us along.

5.5.

This is a memo regarding the contaminated dirt and residence safety.

We've been asked to bring this back in one week.

Motion will bring it back in one week.

Okay, hearing no objections, 5.5 will be brought back in one week.

5.6.

This is contract number 309148.

This is utilizing 100% bond funding.

This is for a residential emergency demolition at 1456 Trinity.

Contractors SC Environmental Services, they're in Detroit.

This is for 16,457.

This will be for construction and demolition.

Is there a motion to discuss?

Thank you.

I believe Raquel Harrington, if she's on, she should be able to join us as a panelist.

Oh, unless Ms.

Conn, I'm reading the notes now.

Was there a request to bring this item back in two weeks?

Or those all okay, so then thank you.

Uh so then Miss Harrington, never mind.

Um, colleagues, we had a request to bring this back in two weeks if there's a motion to do so.

Motion to bring back hearing no objections, five point six will be brought back in two weeks.

And just a note, this keeps being brought back because we want to make sure the site is fully remediated.

5.7.

This is a memo requesting that LPD draft an amendment to the housing code to require pre-sale inspections.

Uh we have received the ordinance draft.

Is there a motion to receive and file?

Motion hearing no objections, 5.7 will be received and filed.

5.8 is a 5.8 and 5.9 are memos through member Callaway's office.

5.8 is a memo relative to requesting a draft ordinance concerning waivers for blights, fines, and fees that are assessed by the Department of Appeals and hearings.

We've been, oh, excuse me, and then 5.9 is a memo relative to requesting for a reports concerning hydrogen fueled buses.

Uh, for both 5.8 and 5.9.

Uh, we would like a two-week bring back.

Motion bring back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, 5.8 and 5.9 will be brought back in two weeks.

5.10 is a memo through member McCampbell's office requesting data related to curfew violations issued to youth on opening day, April 3rd.

We can receive and file.

Motion to receive and file.

Hearing no objections, 5.10 will be received and filed.

There was a response sent.

5.11 and 5.12.

These are both memos through my office.

Member Santiago Romero.

511 is a memo relative to the accessibility of the 36th District Court building.

And 5.10 5.12 is a memo relative to the types of services the newly formed Office of Neighborhood and Community Safety will offer.

We can bring these both back in two weeks.

Motion hearing no objections.

511 and 512 will be brought back in two weeks.

Accessibility program.

Or language accessibility.

5.13.

Motion to receive and file.

5.14.

A memo relative to a request for clarification around the HHFS role in the Hope Program administration.

The administration of the whole program.

We've been asked to bring this back in one week.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.14 will be brought back in one week.

5.15.

A memo regarding after hours establishments through member Callaway's office.

There's a request to bring back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, 5.15 will be brought back in two weeks.

5.16, a memo through member Waters' office requesting information on quick claim deeds for the city of Detroit's residential properties.

We've been asked to bring this back in one week.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.16.

We brought back in one week.

517 is a memo through member waters' office.

This is requesting information on the Wayne County prosecutions for deed fraud.

There's a request for a two-week bringback.

For five questions, Member Waters.

And um, I just want to request a receive and file because according to LPD, we need to send this request directly to the prosecutor themselves.

Okay.

So receive and file or remove.

You want to receive and file 517.

Well, I don't know because once I get it back from the Wayne County prosecutor, if I get a response.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

So oops.

Bring it back or receive and file.

Yeah, let's go ahead and receive and file it because I just don't know how it really applies here.

Okay.

Okay.

517 will be received and filed.

518.

This is a oh 518.

This is a memo relative to animal and wildfare enforcement, wildlife enforcement.

The member McCampbell's office.

If we can bring this back in one week.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 518 will be brought back in one week.

519 is a memo through Member Santiago Romero's office regarding securing city property against federal overreach.

This is regarding the codifying what the city currently already does, which is ensure that we do not let ice into city property.

But we've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, 5.19 will be brought back in two weeks.

We are now under new business under the Office of Contracting and Procurements.

This is contract number 6007101.

Excuse me.

Amendment number two utilizing 100% EPA funding.

This is to provide an extension of time for community air quality programs.

Motion.

Good morning.

Crystal Rogers, General Manager for Environmental Affairs Weekly Seed.

Good morning.

Good to see you.

This is regarding the Green Door Initiative.

And I'm just wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing with us.

Many of us uh care a lot about our air quality, um, how we're monitoring, how we're addressing it.

I believe that this contract helps us collect data.

Um, if you wouldn't mind sharing uh with us uh what else we are doing with this contract and and and how we are integrating it in our work.

Sure.

This contract is with the Green Door Initiative, who's our community outreach partner in the enhanced air quality monitoring grant.

So there uh we'll do outreach and education to community members.

There's going to be a series of four seminars or educational opportunities in each of the seven districts where that we go out and hold a seminar and we'll discuss various aspects of air quality.

You know, what is air quality?

What are the things that we're measuring?

Uh where does the city rank against the state and the uh country as a whole?

And finally, what residents can do to effectively advocate for air quality policy and law change.

Okay, thank you.

So this is for air quality programming for for political education.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, thank you.

Um, and to that, I know that you are also working diligently on our air quality system as a whole.

Um, wondering if this is something that we can uh try to discuss um in the next things are pretty booked.

Well, um sometime soon because I know that's um that's something that you've been working on as well.

So just wondering um if we can also just learn about our current network, our air quality network as well.

Yes, I welcome the opportunity to come to the committee or the council as a whole to discuss what we have done so far.

You know, we have established our air quality monitoring network here in the city that is uh real time where residents can access the data through a website, uh Detroit Mi.gov slash air quality.

And it's it's live right now.

Thanks, JM.

No, I appreciate your work.

Um you do diligence on this.

Um are there any other questions or any comments, questions for 6.1?

Hearing nine.

There was a request to send this to new business.

If there's a motion to do so.

Hearing no objection, 6.1 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you.

Thank you.

6.2.

This is contract number 308966.

This is a notification of emergency utilizing 100% funding.

This is to make a safe fire response.

Um, at 19487 for or I cannot say this.

I have heard with ours, you guys have hard time with ours.

Contractors at Damo Demolition, they're located in Detroit.

Uh, and this contract is approved through December 30th, 2026.

The total contract is for 47,000.

And this will be for construction and demolition.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.2?

Discussion.

Discussion.

There's a discussion.

Um, member McCampbell.

Thank you, madam chair.

I'm just wondering, I'm looking at I know this is a residential demo.

Um, the contract amount of 47,000 is on the higher side of what we've seen with residential.

So just want to get insight on why that cost us that much.

Thank you.

And also, we did not receive a photo for this.

Um, we usually do as well.

Um, is Raquel Harrington on with us?

And if so, uh Ms.

Harrington, I believe you have been made a panelist.

You would just have to unmute yourself and introduce yourself, naming title for the public.

Hello.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can hear you now.

Okay.

Hello, Raquel Harrington, press secretary, construction and demolition department.

Thank you for joining us.

Were you able to hear our vice chair's question?

Can you repeat the question?

Member McCampbell.

Thank you.

Um, good morning, Miss Heritan.

I just have a question on 6.2.

Um, there's a contract amount of 47,000, um, which is on the higher side of what we've seen with residential demos.

So just wanted to get insight on why that cost is so much.

Okay.

Yes, so this was an emergency demolition.

Uh, and it very it was uh the damages were very uh extensive, uh, and our teams had to mobilize and it there was no pre-abatement done or any of that, so it was a pretty pricey demolition.

Okay, thank you.

Um I remember I'm remembering um there was a commercial site that uh was also to um make fires to make safe fire response, and and that was high as well.

So is I know you said that this is emergency.

Are there ways that or things that we can implement to lessen the costs here or um with these demos, or is this just something that happens with these types of um situations?

I do not have the answer, and I do not want to misspeak, so I will defer part of that question um about the way it is processed.

Uh that would go technically through BC, the way they deem it as an emergency demolition as far as what the fire marshals and everything and how those emergency orders are sent through.

I will have to defer to uh our fire department.

Okay.

Um I just looked up the picture of this property.

It's rather small from what I can see.

So for the cost of it, it's it looks to be double or triple.

Um so I would like to bring this back, and Ms.

Harrington would like to uh get the photo from from you all on what it looked like when it was demolished, because I'm assuming the pictures online might be old because online it's uh it's a full it's a standing home.

Um and the cost of 47, and I understand the cost has gone up.

So I will say the demolition contracts that we are seeing now do have about five to ten thousand dollars more than when I first started.

I'm going to assume it's because everything is gone up.

But 47 for the size of the property that I just saw is is a lot.

Um, and I need to understand why not just it had extensive damage.

Through the chair, real quick, um, I do want to note that oftentimes some properties may look small or appear to be smaller, uh, but oftentimes when their emergency demolitions or if it's a fire or an explosive, they often fall inwards, and when they do, we have to use uh more equipment and more manpower because we actually have to go through and excavate um from the ground and remove all of that debris and then the surrounding area as well.

So it can be a little pricier in the manpower in our labors, uh, can be more extensive when it comes to that.

But I will talk to my team and I will get more information for you.

That would be very helpful, and that explanation was helpful as well.

And it wouldn't hurt actually to know the price process for a common demolition, uh a fire demolition, uh uh you know, large commercial, small commercial.

That way we have a sense so that we better understand what's in front of us because we see a lot of things, and quite frankly, I I it's just helpful to to to break it down and to understand what I'm looking at.

Um so if if you wouldn't mind, yes, sharing that cost breakdown why it is this way, along with with images.

Um I that would help our understanding.

Um and and I still would like to bring this back until until we have that information.

Um member waters.

Did you have a comment or a question?

No, you want to bring it back?

Okay.

I I would unless there's any other comments or questions.

Okay.

We should bring it back when one week.

Thank you, Member Waters.

We'll bring back 6.2 in one week.

Miss Harrington looking forward to that information.

Thank you.

I will now move us along to 6.3.

6.3.

Is contract number 600 6243, amendment number one utilizing 100% city funding.

This is to add funds for duration of agreement to provide sodium.

High PUCs.5%.

This is a solution for city pools.

The contractor here is a PVS Nollwood chemicals.

They are located in Detroit.

This contract will go through April 30th of 2026, and the increased amount will be for 84,000, bringing this total contract to 180,768.

This will be for construction and demolition.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.3?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 6.3 will be approved.

6.4 is contract number 309 2417.

100% solid waste funding is being used to provide specialized metal containers for trash and recycling.

Contractors, Hanan Specialists, they are located in Sacramento, California.

This contract goes to December 31st, 2026.

And it's for 499, 980.

And this would be for public works.

Motion to discuss.

Thank you.

We should have Director Brundaj on with us.

If we do, if we can please make him a panelist.

And Director Brundage, once you've joined us, if you wouldn't mind seating your name and title for the public, I'm sure.

Good morning.

Good to see you.

Thank you for joining us.

We're discussing 6.4.

Director, this is for the specialized metal containers for trash and recycling.

If you wouldn't mind sharing with us what these are for, um, why we're why you're requesting the specialized metal containers, and then also um why California?

Could could we not find these metal containers here in Detroit?

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh uh, Ron Brenner, director of BPW.

Um, just to provide a little background, during last year's budget process, uh City Council added $500,000 to DPW's budget uh to expand the containers that we provide for for the public along commercial corridors.

Uh this particular contract will allow for uh 150 additional trash containers and 300 recycling containers to be located throughout commercial corridors at bus stop citywide.

Uh we actually, and I believe that uh Chris Jones from procurement is also available to to join if needed.

Uh we actually went through several writ uh iterations uh when we went out for beer trying to identify companies uh that could provide the containers.

Uh I believe at one time we did get a bid from uh a firm that was local or closer to uh to Michigan.

Uh however, when we asked for a sample container, uh they weren't able to provide one, so we had to go through the process uh and bid again.

We were looking for a specific type of aesthetically pleasing, durable uh container to place along a commercial corridors, and ultimately we landed with this company uh that happens to be located in California.

It wasn't an objective of ours to buy containers from a firm that's so far away from Michigan.

Uh, but we've gone through this process and again these days uh this additional money uh was added to our budget almost a year ago, and we wanted to ensure that we got a contract in front of council uh before the current fiscal year ended.

Understood.

Uh thank you, Director.

And if we can make Chris Jones into a panelist as well, um, I just want to confirm um my notes that I have here to your point, Director, the efforts that were made to find this in-house or to find this in the city.

Um, and then it looks like there was a vendor that was much much more expensive.

Um, so just want to get that on the record as well.

Uh Mr.

Jones, whenever you are with us, if you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public as well.

Hi, Chris Jones, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Hello.

And uh again, if you wouldn't mind sharing with us uh the procurement process and um the cost difference uh between somewhere close to home um in California.

Hi yes, as uh Mr.

Brundage had indicated earlier.

We did put this out to bid uh twice uh trying to get uh trying to get some good competition for these uh metal cans.

And we the last the last bid that we put out, we did get a response for someone a lot closer, but the pricing was much higher.

It was uh three million compared to 600,000 uh for uh for the lowest bidder.

Understood.

Okay, that's a huge difference.

Um and would it be possible?

We don't have um an image of the the trash containers themselves.

Can those be sent to us as well?

Yes, I can.

Okay, great, thank you.

Are there any other questions for 6.4?

Is there a motion to approve?

There's a request for new business, motion to approve.

Uh send to new business.

Hearing no objections, 6.4 will be approved, sent to new business.

Thank you guys.

Thank you.

Moving us to 6.5.

This is contract number 600 6412, amendment number three, 100% city funding.

This is per this is to add a location for citywide elevator maintenance and repair services.

Contractor is Otis Elevator located in Farmington Hills.

This is going to be an extension of time.

Oh no, this contract goes to July 30th, 2027.

The amendment here is to add a location.

Um, is there a motion to discuss 6.5?

Thank you, colleagues.

I believe we should have Raquel Harrington and Arnita Clark for this as well.

If they can please be made into panelists.

And when both have joined us, if you wouldn't mind stating your names for the public.

Do we have either Raquel Harrington or Anita Clark with us?

Good morning, Council.

My name is DeAndre Berry.

I'm a contract and procurement manager in the office of contracting and procurement, and I'll be speaking on behalf of Arnita.

Okay, wonderful.

Thank you for thank you for joining.

So wondering, would you be able to answer questions regarding to elevated maintenance itself and the service?

I would have to defer to the department, depending on what the question is.

Okay.

Well, well, those are the questions.

Is Ms.

Harrington on with us?

Hello, I'm here.

Hello again.

Good morning.

Would you happen to know what this uh what Detroiters can expect from this from this contract?

Uh we know we are we hear often um around rec centers, uh senior uh senior apartment buildings of the need for us to make sure that we are providing uh better elevator service.

Uh so would you happen to know what we can expect through this contract?

Yes, through the chair.

I'm making sure I have my notes up.

Having a little bit of technical difficulty here.

No worries.

We understand our computers move slow sometimes.

Yeah, okay.

Through the chair.

I have my answer.

Um, so this would assist with um adding handicap chair lift uh to the Lasky Recreation Center um to the contract for maintenance.

Okay, so this is for our rec centers.

Okay, thank you.

Um other questions for 6.5.

Is there motion to approve?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.5 would be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, Ms.

Harrington, for that confirmation.

Madam Chair.

Oh, ma'am, Madam Clerk.

Line item 6.3.

Did we get a motion for that?

Let's check.

This is for the agreement.

Yes, ma'am.

We approved.

Formal session.

Yes.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Okay.

We are now on 6.6.

This is this is 6.6 is contract number 600750.

This is to provide deferred compensation services for employees.

Is there a motion to discuss?

Motion.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Member McCampbell, I believe this might have to be referred to your committee.

This is regarding um retirement plan uh for city employees.

Um or I'm actually not sure, but this is something that's um or IOS.

Yeah, either IOS or I I believe BFA.

Um, actually, Ms.

Khan, can we is Denise Star on?

If we can make Denise Star into a panelist.

Denise, we're we're moving you over to a panelist now.

And if you wouldn't mind when you've joined us, let us know.

Um with your name and title.

When people are being moved over on on our end, we don't see you anymore.

So we need you to introduce yourself so that the the camera can capture that you've joined us.

Um so whenever you've joined us, please let us know.

Okay.

Um through the chair, yes, I am now on.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

Okay, so good morning, uh Honorable Babadi and uh happy um happy public service recognition week to you all.

Um Janice Starr, human resource director for the city.

Thank you for joining us.

Thank you for the goodies you have for our employees today.

If you haven't checked those out yet this morning, those were very nice.

Um, but Ms.

Starr, just wondering, this is regarding deferred compensation for services for employees.

Um do you usually have these conversations in BFA or in IOS in the past?

I think we've had them with um BFA, but I'm happy to go over um what this is so you'll have a better understanding.

Sure.

So this is our City of Detroit deferred compensation plan, and what that is, it's a 457B plan.

These are all voluntary contributions, pre-tax contributions by our employees, or um there could be former employees and some could be retirees.

They um are only able to contribute their pre-tax dollars through um being an active employee, though.

But a lot of employees leave their or former employees will leave their funds in these accounts um to make additional um income for themselves.

And we currently have four providers, okay.

Uh government entity and even in uh private companies, they only have one uh 457b is you know what uh municipality would have in the private sector, it would be a 401k, uh, if anyone's familiar with that.

And so um we have a committee that is comprised of labor, uh the labor unions, finance, the law department, human resources, benefits, and um the committee is uh pretty much a fiduciary or oversight committee.

So recognizing that having four funds really doesn't allow the employees to have the least cost avenue for um the upkeep of the funds.

So these providers are usually there are none in the Detroit area.

Um normally they would be on in the East Coast Um uh investment firms that manage these types of uh accounts, and to streamline so that employees um can still get their funds that they have in uh any of the other um three providers that we have.

They um the company that's been selected by this fiduciary oversight committee is empowered and they are currently one of our four providers.

Um we had six companies to bid on it, and we reduced it down to the top three, and then empower was the one that actually is going to provide for our employees, former employees and retirees that have funds in these accounts, the best uh fee structure, reducing the cost of upkeep because the employees pay for this.

If you notice that there are this is a no-cost contract to the city, other than us all being on a committee.

Um, but it it is uh something that the employees, former employees and retirees are uh they pay for out of their um investments, um investments.

And uh we as an um a fiduciary oversight committee do monitor along with the assistance of a uh SEAGO company, you know, the returns on any of the funds that employees and others have, um, making sure that if they fall below the targets that we put them on a watch list, and if they continue in the what I'll call the wrong direction for uh I believe it's three quarters in a row, then we will end up looking at the funds that are in the in the company's uh portfolio and whether we'll offer those funds um for the future.

Um the um current companies are Empower, Equitable, Vanguard, and Voya, and Empower is the firm that we are recommending uh for uh to narrow it down, and they are going to provide the best um uh fee structure for um all of the uh parties that belong in uh these four uh companies' funds.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Director.

Um Vice Chair.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair, thank you, Director.

Um, especially for the breakdown.

It does sound like that this should go before BFNA.

Um, so if there's a motion to send us to the um council the council president's office to be referred to BFA.

If that's a motion, we'll take it.

Uh this will be referred to.

We will there's a motion to refer 6.6 to the president's office to be referred to BFA.

Hearing no objections, we will do so.

Thank you, Director.

This will uh have further discussion um in BFA18 when it comes uh to that committee.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

I will now move us along to 6.7.

This is contract number 600 6031 amendment number one, 100% city funding.

This is to provide an increase of funds and extension of time for overband uh uh creek, the the crack fill.

Um the contractor is Scoutler construction, they're located in Wixa, Michigan.

This will go through December 31st of 2026.

Umrigally was going to go until the end of the year.

Uh the amended time will now go through June 30th of 2027.

There's also a contract increase amount of 78 uh 97,445 with 80 cents, bringing this whole contract to 2,695,986 with 80 cents.

And this would be for public works.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.7?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve, and folks uh wondering this is to uh provide uh fills for 133 miles.

Actually, Member Waters, let's discuss it so that so folks can hear more.

Uh discussion.

Discussion, yeah.

Thank you, Member Waters.

And I believe Director Brundage should be on with us if we can make him into a panelist.

And Director Brundage, once you've joined us, please let us know.

Good morning again, Ron Brennish, director of DPW.

Good morning.

We are discussing 6.7.

This is the increased uh funds and times for uh crackfills.

Just wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing uh with the public uh what they can look forward to with this contract.

Uh sure, madam chair.

Uh this is next, this is our uh preventive maintenance contract uh for crack sealing uh streets throughout the city.

Uh typically, whenever we uh newly resurface or we pave a road, uh we like to come back within a couple years uh of that uh resurfacing uh when when we first begin to see cracks in the road to come through with this particular contract uh and then provide preventive maintenance through uh through crack sealing.

And what this does is dramatically increase the longevity of roads after they're paid.

Uh typically when we repave a major road, uh we expect for those roads to last up to 15 years uh from the date that it was originally paved, and that is accomplished partly uh through the efforts to receive all the benefits received of this uh overfill crack selling contract.

Uh the reason that we're asking for this contract to be extended, uh typically when we put this contract out for bid, there's only one or two companies uh that'll bid on this particular contract.

Uh in 2024, when we originally awarded the contract is to Scadeller, we received extremely favorable unit rates.

Uh, we were very happy that they agreed to hold those rates firm uh as part of the extension of the contract.

Okay, thank you, Director.

Appreciate that for 6.7.

Um, and since we have you with us, and since we're discussing uh sidewalks and roads, um is there a motion to discuss 6.8?

Motion.

Thank you.

We can discuss these together.

These are both public works contracts.

6.8 says contract number 6007 eight two five.

Uh this is utilizing the hundred percent metro funding.

This is to provide sidewalk repairs to address the backlog.

The contractor here is Yorji Concrete.

Uh they're going to do a joint venture.

This they are located in Detroit.

They have until December 31st, 2028, and it's an $8 million contract.

Um Director Brundage, if you wouldn't mind sharing with the public what they can expect from this contract.

And I will say, even though this contract um uh the limit of the contract goes through uh 2028, we're actually anticipating that all of the work will be completed this construction season.

Uh when when Madame Mayor Sheffield took office on January 1st, uh we had 6300 requests for new sidewalk uh that existed in our backlog.

Uh this particular contract in conjunction uh with the contract that we awarded last year where we had some carryover funding is going to allow us to completely eradicate uh that backlog of 6300 uh locations.

Uh we're going to take a different approach uh this year compared to previous years.

Uh in this year's contract, uh the contractors are going to be going to targeted locations, the specific locations where residents requested uh and need to have sidewalk replaced.

So we're not going to be doing wholesale wholesale, wholesale replacement of sidewalks on our individual blocks or neighborhoods.

We're going to be going to targeted locations.

And this particular contract will allow us uh to address, I think 5480 of the 6300 uh houses that were part of that uh homes that were part of that backlog that existed on January 1st.

Okay, thank you.

And the remaining backlogs then, what are the plans to address that?

So the the remaining backlog, uh last year uh council approved the contract to Santos construction uh and that particular contract for sidewalk repair and that particular contract uh actually had about 1.5 million dollars uh remaining, and we're using uh the balance of those funds uh to address uh the the the balance of the contract, the balance of the sidewalk work that won't be done by Georgie.

So we actually have Santos working right now in district one, uh and then we're going to uh assign the other districts uh to Georgie if this contract is approved.

Okay, thank you.

Um my last comment is just um sidewalk repair is exciting.

It also becomes frustrating um when it's not done immediately.

I I'm just remembering of stories of residents saying or having um their slabs of concrete removed and open for weeks.

Um I'm gonna assume we're gonna do the repairs quickly.

Um, but that is one concern that I want to make sure we we don't see again.

And the other thing too is a lack of communication too.

I I heard from residents that they would just walk out the door or come from work and their sidewalk was gone, and then they were waiting for weeks for it to be filled again.

I don't know if this was all I do know some of these were city sidewalk repairs.

I believe some of them are also DTEs.

So it's hard to also understand who is responsible for what.

But sharing this now, director, um, is this going to um are we going to announce that sidewalk repairs are happening to to the residents if it's targeted?

Will they know who's there and and and and when they can expect um the sidewalk to be replaced so they're not just waiting?

So through the chair, we will be um uh we will be notifying uh the residents at the at the homes where they the work is occurring prior to any any construction beginning.

And that notification is gonna occur in two separate uh phases initially, uh typically about two weeks before any work will begin.

Uh they'll receive a flyer from the city of Detroit, our inspectors when they come out to actually mark the sidewalk that's being replaced.

Uh they'll be they'll provide a flyer uh at that time, giving them all of the information, telling them what they can expect uh to see occur.

Uh so that'll that'll be the initial uh phase of notification.

And then uh a couple days before construction actually begins, our contractor will actually provide a second notification through a door knocker, uh whether I indicate to the homeowner that they can expect work to begin within two to three days of receiving that second notification.

Thank you, Doctor.

By door knocker, do you mean an actual knock or just the the pamphlet that gets left on your on your doorknob?

Uh not an actual knock.

Uh we we can certainly request that or require that of them, but I was actually referring to the door knocker flyer that they'll actually place onto the onto the door of their front door, until the knob of the front door.

Okay, the that notification should be enough.

If we can please make sure that it's also um in Spanish and Arabic, Mengali, French, um, especially in the districts that we know, those languages are spoken.

Um, and if you need help with where those are, maybe Crio can help you with that as well.

We just want to make sure that those notices are translated, and I do believe we have some of that information um to help as well.

Uh thank you.

That that that is part of the notification process for it uh to be provided in multiple languages.

Perfect.

Thank you.

Changes happening, you guys.

Okay.

Um any other questions for six uh seven, six point seven six point eight, member McCampbell.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, good mor uh good afternoon, Director.

Uh I just have a couple of questions.

Um Madam Chair asked some of them for me.

I know you know we have had conversation about uh the quality and quality assurance.

Um, but for the public, if you could just go through how um we're gonna double check on the work of the contractor.

Uh thank you for that question to the chair to member uh McCampbell.

Uh the the work that the contractors will be performing will be over overseen and inspected uh by inspectors that work for the cities uh for our city engineering division.

Uh, we actually have multiple components of the work uh that'll be monitored and inspected.

Uh, we'll be taking samples of the concrete to ensure that uh it's in accordance uh with uh with our specifications as it relates to uh composition uh and strength and and to ensure maximum longevity.

Uh we'll actually will also be out there uh measuring uh the forms when they place the forms to ensure uh that when the concrete is poured, uh that the slopes are correct and in accordance with what we require as part of my specification to ensure that the sidewalks are fully ADA compliant.

Thank you, and that's great.

And um I always like to ask uh uh fire earlier, you know, if there is a resident that is concerned about the work that's going on or any happenings or even the quality afterwards, what's the best way for them to let you all know?

Uh, through the chair member McCampbell again, uh, and as I indicated to the chair, uh we we will have a two-step notification process that initial flyer uh that the households uh that are getting new sidewalk will receive.

It will have all of the all of the contact information in the event they have any questions, any concerns regarding the quality or workmanship or any issues at all.

Uh it's not uncommon for us to receive notification that during the sidewalk uh replacement process that a sprinkler system may have been damaged, but we do require the contractors to repair or replace that sprinkler system uh at no cost to the homeowner or no additional cost to the city.

So all of the notification process in the event that the homeowners have any questions at all that'll be included uh in the flyers that they receive from the city as well as the door knocker that they receive from the contractor.

Great.

Thank you, Director.

Last question.

Um, I appreciate the work that is going on to clear this backlog.

I know we get a lot of folks asking about it.

Um, I just want to, you know, after or beyond the backlog, as we get to a place where we can have the regular sidewalk maintenance.

Um, if you could just share um how that process will go or what goes into that process for the department.

Um, you know, clear the backlog, and then how do we identify from there uh additional sidewalks that may need to be upgraded or repaired?

Uh through the chair, uh member McCampbell.

Uh I indicated that the 6300 backlog uh number represented the backlog that is existed on January 1st of this year.

Uh, we received new requests or complaints about sidewalks uh on a daily basis.

So that number now is no longer 6300 uh because we've got an additional uh complaints or requests uh during this calendar yeah.

Uh residents can go to the uh go to the DPW website if they want to request uh that the sidewalk at their home be inspected.

Obviously, if we identify locations this year that need to be replaced, we're looking at including them in future years programs.

We're not going to jump over folks that have been waiting patiently for multiple years uh that are on the sidewalk list for 2026.

Uh, but we recognize that this is an ongoing process.

Uh and each year, the amount of funding that's available for us uh doesn't remain consistent from one year to the to the next.

Last year we only had 3.5 million dollars available uh for sidewalk uh replacement this year.

We're fortunate uh that we have additional money, eight million uh next year, depending on how much funding is available.

That'll go a long ways in terms in terms of determining how we go about prioritizing which sidewalk work is done and which unfortunately may have to be delayed until future year.

Great.

Thank you, Director.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Any other questions?

Seeing none, is there a motion to approve 6.7 and 6.8 to new business?

Motion to approve 6.7, 6.9, sent to new business.

Hearing no objections, those items will be approved and sent to new business.

Thank you, Director.

We appreciate you.

Thank you.

Moving us along to the Office of the Chief Financial Officer, Office of Development and Grants.

6.9 through 6.11 are all various grants.

I will read those out for the record.

Six points nine is a request to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2026 next cycle Michigan Harvest Grants.

This is to support with our recycling.

And 6.11.

This is a request to accept an increase in appropriation for the fiscal year 2026 health community zones grants.

And this will be for the health department.

I wonder if there's any questions.

Is there a motion to discuss or approve 6.9 through 6.11?

Motion to approve 6.9 through 6.11.

There is a request for new business for all items.

Motion to approve 6.9 through 6.11 and sent to new business.

Hearing no objections, those items will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Under the law departments.12.

This is to amend ordinance.

This is to amend ordinance chapter 4, the 2019 Detroit City Code, advertising and signs by an amending article one.

Generally, sections 4-1-1 definitions to include religious institutions in the definition of advertisement sensitive properties.

This will be for an introduction and an this is this will be for an introduction of an ordinance and setting of a public hearing.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.12?

Motion to discuss.

Discussion vice chair.

I was just gonna defer to LPD on this.

Okay, thank you, LPD.

Thank you, madam chair.

I had some uh emails over the uh weekend from Dr.

Bulger and I forwarded them to the committee, I believe, or one of them.

Um, and uh there's some concerns that are being looked into right now about whether this particular change pertains to other types of uh possibly so-called locally undesirable land uses and what the current code says about what the restrictions are for those things on billboards, and nobody knows the answer yet, but it'll take a little while.

Uh we'd like to request that this be brought back in a couple weeks so that they would have some time to weigh in as to whether it can be done this way or slightly tweaked.

All right, thank you.

Appreciate that LPD.

And just for the public's awareness, uh, what we're talking about here is an amendments uh to restrict cannabis um advertising.

Um, and this will be uh including restrictions of that for our religious institutions.

Um, but her LPD, uh three weeks.

Uh if there's a motion to bring this back, but that's I think two weeks is probably enough.

Okay.

Is there a motion for two-week bring back?

Motion to bring back 6.12 and two weeks.

Hearing no objections, 6.12 will be brought back in two weeks.

Under the Department of Appeals of Appeals and Hearings 6.13.

This is a dangerous building's findings and orders for April 10th, 2026.

This can be received and filed.

Motion to receive and file.

Hearing no objections 613 will be received and filed under the legislative policy division, LPD 6.14.

This is to amend chapter 22.

Um, this is to amend to amend.

I think there's some um edits that need to be made to write titles here too.

This is to amend chapter 22 of the 2019 Detroit City Code Housing by adding Article 11, sales or conveniences of one or two family dwellings, sections 22 11-1 definitions, sections 22-11-2, pre-sale inspection required, sections 22-11-3 Exceptions, sections 22-11-4, inspection guidelines and inspection reports, sections 22-11-5, dangerous conditions and deficiencies found in dwellings, sections 22-11-6 violations, sections 22-11-7 penalty to provide for the health safety and general welfare of the public.

This is for an introduction of an ordinance and setting up a public hearing.

And this is member Johnson's request for pre-sale inspections.

Is there a motion?

I believe this also needs to be referred to the law department for approval for review and approval.

Is all right, there's a motion to refer this to the law departments to be reviewed and approved.

Hearing no objections, vice chair.

Um, thank you.

I I um I'm in a uh agreement with the motion and this ordinance.

I just have a question because as we were talking about um code enforcement education, I'm just thinking about ways that we could um get that information uh to folks, and I'm thinking that maybe pre-sale inspections is a place where um they folks are coming to contact with the city before um a sale of property.

So I'm just this is me brainstorming out loud of like maybe, and this may be in the implementation, but as a way to like get that top 10 or top 15 things you should know about code enforcement, um, as that kind as that's coming across a lot uh and also translated in a way.

So just want to bring up we could have further discussion.

I I can connect with member Johnson's office, but I just want to lift that up to you all as a way of how do we get more information in front of folks um to know about you know not only the condition of the home that they're purchasing, but also after you purchase it, this is the code that you should be following.

But that's what I just want to bring up in that.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Yeah, and and I also support this idea.

Um I I hear you're making sure that we are not just doing this and and maybe adding more challenges to our residents because they might not know about what the codes are in the first place.

My my concern, frankly, is knowing that people may not have the money to make the repairs to make the sell.

But I think if that's the case, we help them, right?

Then that means that we need home repair, and and we won't get to that until we go through this process.

Um, that is my biggest concern.

Um, is if we if we require this, how many people won't be able to actually make that sell because they don't have the funds to make the repairs, but we can't keep selling homes that are in terrible conditions to people that are not prepared, and then it's just it's a really terrible cycle.

It's a really terrible cycle.

So I appreciate these efforts because again, I think it elevates the expectations, the education, and the investment that we're making into our housing.

Um, but thank you, Member McCampbell.

This has been referred for review and approval.

This is also being sent for an introduction of a public hearing.

Um, attorney Anderson, it's been referred.

Can we still move this out for introduction or should we bring this back until it's been approved?

Through the chair, it would be best to bring it back until it's approved.

Okay.

All right.

Are there any other questions or comments for 614?

If not, is there a motion to bring back in one week?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, six point through the chair.

Can we get two weeks?

Oh, you said two weeks.

Sorry.

Thank you.

Two weeks.

Hearing no objections, 6.14 will be brought back in two weeks.

Under the legislative policy division.

6.15.

This is member McCampbell's request for LPD to provide a resolution in support of SB479 and HB 4742.

The Protecting Overburden Communities Act.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Motion to discuss.

Vice Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I believe during uh formal session, I I removed this, but apologies for if there was additional work that was going on because um this body did pass a resolution last year in support of these bills, and it's the same.

The legislature is still in the same session, so it might be duplicative.

So my apologies for that oversight.

All right.

So it may be there's a motion to remove this line item.

A motion to remove 6.15.

Hearing no objections, 6.15 will be removed from our agenda.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

6.16 is a resolution recognizing air quality awareness week.

Um is there a motion to discuss?

Motion.

Thank you.

Um fully support this resolution.

Um moving it out with approval.

I believe there have been some amended uh languages made.

Um, so I think it's there was additional organizations added to the resolution.

So if we can approve it as amended, um that way we make sure that we are uh moving forward the correct resolution.

Um, but if there's a motion to approve 6.16 as amended, uh motion to approve 6.16 as amended and sent to new business.

This is this week.

Yeah, okay.

Hearing no objections, 6.16 will be approved as amended, sent to new business for approval under the transportation department 6.17.

This is this is a D dot public transportation agency safety plan.

Uh um, this structure is based on the federal transit uh administration requirements, and this is the D DOTS reports.

This is their submission.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.17?

Isn't that a motion to should should we not be receiving it?

Oh uh that's a good question.

Let's discuss if there's a motion to discuss.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Um, I see here Michael Enriquez is supposed to be joining us as a panelist.

Do we see him on with us?

All right, Michael, once you've joined us, if you wouldn't mind seeding your name and title for the public.

I believe you have been made a panelist.

You would just have to unmute yourself yes, good morning.

I I can hear you all now.

My name is Michael Enriquez.

I'm the interim chief safety officer with the Detroit Department of Transportation.

Nice to meet you.

Thank you for joining us.

Um we are discussing 6.17.

This is D DOT's reports on uh agency safety.

Um thank you.

I it sees it says here the report covers your safety plans, goals, objectives, your managements, risk management's assurance and promotion.

But wondering if this is a report that council needs to receive and file or approve for submission, would you happen to know?

Yes, so we are actually seeking approval from city council.

Um just basically to ensure continuity of our 5307 funding.

Uh so uh the agency safety plan is uh is a requirement under part 673 of uh title 49, and we have submitted it and are just seeking the approval of city council so that we can then submit it to the federal transit administration.

Okay, understood.

Thank you.

Um we can motion to approve it.

There's a motion to approve.

Are there any objections, discussions?

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

Um before we approve, um Chief, I have a question on knowing that this is the safety plan, we've had conversations in this council on um risk management and and lawsuits and um also hearing um even during public comment, we heard uh someone lift up an experience that they had with um bus service.

So I'm I guess a general question of you know what improvements have we seen over safety for D DOT over the last year, and and what does this if you can just go over some major points in the safety plan of how do we how what are we doing to address the amount of lawsuits and incidents that we've seen and really um customer service for our residents?

Absolutely, uh, through the chair.

Um so from 24 to 25, we actually realized about a 10% reduction in uh preventable collisions, and so far year to date in 2025, we are averaging about 12 to 15 percent reduction from 2025.

Um those are the the main points that do contribute to our um auto loss payouts, and uh we actually meet uh quite frequently with our risk management partners, and uh there has actually been a significant reduction in loss payouts emanating from uh D DOT.

Gotcha, thank you.

And then on the aspect um hearing you on uh the risk migration and uh payouts, um, going a little bit you know, before it gets to a point of you know lawsuits and such, just on the aspect of um riders feeling safe on the coaches and at bus stops and uh bus stations.

Um, how does this plan address though those aspects?

Well, as far as rider safety and uh just general system safety, what we have done is we have collaborated with DPD.

Uh they do have a proprietary uh transit unit that is dedicated solely to D DOT operations, and they have uh not only engaged in bus boardings, but it actually has been rolled out to uh precent-wide initiative to ensure that uh officers are regularly boarding our buses and ensuring that they're the riders are safe.

Okay, thank you.

And I'll lift up as I lift it up with the director, understanding the police aspect, but I um you know we will have more students, assuming that we'll have more students on our buses with the uh free fare now.

Um I I'm not sure I didn't see it here, but are is there plans in the safety plan?

Do you talk about the safety plan or uh or anywhere on ambassadors for our students and and is there a deeper dive into a safety plan for our young folks right and D dot?

So basically it would just pretty much be encompassed with the the general ridership.

Um we we do various things to ensure rider safety, and most of that does emanate from our ability to um properly train and uh instill defensive driving uh habits within our operating workforce.

So is this one just on the just so I know because I don't want to ask you um on unrelated question.

Is this plan just on the just say the actions of bus drivers and the way that they drive and the quality of that driving, or is it the overall safety?

It is overall safety.

So this plan pretty much um ensures that we are employing a safety management system um and that we are pretty much in line with the best practices with uh other peer transit agencies as it relates to safety.

Gotcha.

Okay, I think I would I would just say I don't want to hold up um any type of funding that's related to this, but I do think the department should take a deeper dive into um safety of vulnerable populations, including young folks, um, seniors and folks with disabilities, because I think those require a little bit of extra level of um specialized attention on whether it is ambassadors that are working with DPS CD for our students that they know um someone that they need help, um that they can get that help, um, folks that are uh that work constantly with our senior populations on on their needs, especially not only on the coaches but with paratransit um and accessibility, but also um with folks with disabilities as well.

So um I understand this is a general safety plan, but if the department can come back to us with even more on that thoughts we've been having discussion, and we've been told folks have been looking into it, but at this point, as we're rolling out new initiatives, um I really want to make sure that folks are feeling safe and are safe when they are using um our public transportation.

Absolutely.

Thank you, thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Wholeheartedly agree.

Um, it's why we've also added money to hire liaison um on the buses, either a social worker, caseworker, someone specifically to work with um our population that is that might be housing insecure, that might be young people that might be seniors.

Um so thank you.

Uh we we have received the report.

Um, so we uh would there's there's a motion to approve.

I just want to um member McCampbell mentioned about and and I know that D dot is working really hard on um incentivizing drivers to drive safely as well.

I'm gonna assume that's why we've seen um a reduction in in crashes.

Um but if that can be something that a part of information data, I don't recall if we receive this information during our quarterly updates, maybe we already do, but I don't think we do.

Um so if that can be something that is shared with us, we'd appreciate it.

So we can just continue to see those trends going down.

Um there's a motion to approve 6.17.

Madam Chair, Madam Clerk.

This item is just a report.

We would need a resolution in order to move it forward.

Okay.

And that was the original question.

Um so Michael, would you happen to I I believe you would need to resubmit this as a resolution since this is just a report.

Do you guys have a resolution for this?

You're asking if we can generate one for you all.

Correct.

Yes, yes, we can.

All right.

So what we'll do is we will receive and file 6.17, and you will need to resubmit this as a resolution for us to reprove uh approve to full council, okay?

Gotcha.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

There is a motion to receive and file.

Yes.

Hearing no objections, 6.17 would be received and filed.

Thanks, everyone.

Under miscellaneous 6.18.

This is a memo relative on information on DPD storage requirements.

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, 6.18.

We brought back in two weeks.

6.19, a memo relative to immediate attention to the Stevens Thompson Mansion School property located at 19635 Mitchell Streets in Detroit.

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.19 will be brought back in two weeks.20.

This is a duplicate of 5.15.

So this can remove.

This can be removed without objection.

6.20 will be removed from our agenda.

This is a duplicate of 5.15.

This brings us down to member reports.

Member Waters.

Oh information.

Oh information.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I believe so.

I'm just going, it wasn't 6.15.

It was a different or did you say 5.15?

5.15.

Okay, just to double check.

I on 5.15.

Um it was just a memo, uh, a report to prepare a report, and I believe this one is to uh report and an ordinance.

Memo report, drafting ordinance, and you said 515 is just a report.

Just the report.

Okay.

So then this can be brought back in two weeks.

Motion to be back in two weeks.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

6.20 can be brought back in two weeks.

Okay, this now brings us down to member reports.

Um, member waters.

Okay, thank you.

Um, so May 20th.

Um skill trades task force is going to be at the Far Wheel uh recreation center.

It's at 27.

What is the address here?

It doesn't want to come up.

2711.

2711, uh, out of drive east, and that is on uh May 20th from 4 to 6 p.m.

Um there are three uh council members part of this task force, and that's um waters, my cambow, and Miller.

Um I also just want to say um madam, madam chair had a blast at Seiko de Mayo.

I did um this past um uh uh Sunday.

I always like to walk and I get excited because all the children are out there, you know.

I like to give them candy and so forth.

It was absolutely fantastic.

I didn't get a chance to say hello to you, but I did see you when you arrived.

That's how you get out of your car and join your team.

But but but but it but it was wonderful, and um always look forward to it each year, actually.

Um from there, I also uh went to uh the Greek uh parade uh which we they were celebrating their 250 years of uh uh independence, and so uh, and that one was very nice as well.

So what a nice cultural day, you know, uh on yesterday.

All right, so thank you.

Thank you, Member Waters.

The Pistons also won.

It was a very good day yesterday.

Uh Vice Chair.

Yes, they did.

Um, I was gonna say congratulations to the Pistons uh for advancing.

I think it was the going back to 2003 when I came back from 3-1 against the same team in the same fashion of the games that they lost and won.

Um so hopefully we get some more wins out of the Pistons into a championship.

Um I would just say for our for my member reports, thank you to the residents that came out to our coffee hour last Thursday, and we had a lot of discussion on various issues.

Um, our our monthly meeting this month would be virtual.

Um, so stay tuned for that information.

And um, as mentioned during uh the public comment, Friday was May Day, and the council did approve a resolution recognition of May Day, but just wanted to lift up all of the folks who came out for that um recognition and celebration and ensuring that we put workers first moving forward as well.

So that is it for my um oh I will yep, that is it.

That is it for my member report.

Thank you, Mount Chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

I just want to share, uh, just remind everyone at 1 30 today.

We do have a dangerous buildings hearings um at 3 p.m.

today.

I will need to be running over to our office hours.

I'll be at Equity Alliance from three to five o'clock.

Um, if you are looking to meet with me, uh please do so then.

And we will also be in community uh this Saturday.

Uh we are going to have our next meeting in person from 11 to 1 p.m.

Unfortunately, I don't have that information, but I'm sure I can share it tomorrow.

Or please do check out our newsletter social media.

Uh, but two opportunities this week to connect with me if you are free and if you would like to.

Um, with that, um, since there's nothing else before us now, I will recess us until 1:30 for our dangerous buildings hearings.