Our session of Tuesday, May 19, 2026 will come to order.

And Madam Clerk, will you please call the role?

Yes, Mr.

President, thank you.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Scott Benson, I councilmember Letitia Johnson.

Councilmember Denzel and Tom McCampbell.

Council Member Renata Miller.

Present.

Council member Gabriela Fancy Mero.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Member Waters did send the memo indicating that she would be delayed.

Clerk will sum up, Mr.

President.

Council Member Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Council President Pro Tim Coleman Ayon II.

Here.

Council President James Tate.

Here.

Mr.

President, you have a prayer.

Thank you.

Now in session.

Uh, we would now like to begin the collection of public comment cards.

If there's anyone who would like to provide public comment, if you're in the committee of the whole, please raise your hand and somebody, my team will come by and provide you with one of those public comment cards.

We got a hand down here.

If you are at home and you would like to provide comment to the body, please raise your hand on Zoom and you will be placed into the queue.

Again, if you are looking to speak before this body at uh the time we have public comment, please raise your hand if you have not received the car because we're going to be cutting off the collection of public comments, uh, collection uh very soon.

But right now, we would like to now introduce the pastor providing this morning's invocation.

We have none other than lead pastor Josh Shockley of the Motor City Church, located at one 50 Michigan Avenue in District 6.

Give him a round of applause.

Pastor Choppy, thank you for joining us.

And the floor is real so good being.

Good morning.

Thank you so much for having me.

Uh, what an honor.

Before I begin, I want to say thank you so much for having me, but also thank you for all that you do.

I know a leadership positions, you can also be on the receiving end of some problems and things like that.

But I just want to say thank you for the hard work that you guys do day in and day out to make Detroit the greatest city in the nation.

So thank you so much.

Um, for those of you that attend church, you know, us preachers often have difficulty with staying in our allotted time, but I promise you I'm gonna do my very best to keep within the time frame.

Uh, when I was uh approached about coming to pray today and share a quick word, I was thinking about what would it be that I would share.

And I was reminded of a story uh that I pray would encourage all of us in the room uh today.

Uh many years ago, there was a man that was incredibly wealthy, multi-billionaire, in fact, and uh he accumulated his wealth uh by being an architect.

He designed some of the greatest homes in the entire world.

And there was one man that would build these homes for him.

And uh this man was getting older in his years, and he went to his boss, the architect, and he said, Boss, I'm ready to retire.

I I put in all of these years, but I'm ready to be done.

And this incredible architect, he looked at this man and he said, Would you build me one last house?

I've been putting pen to paper for many of years to draft up the nicest house I could ever imagine.

He said, You're the only guy that I think that could do this well.

So he said, you know what?

I'm tired, but I'll build this one last house for you.

The man the builder, he looks at the blueprints and he realizes, wow, this is the nicest home that this man has ever designed.

So he begins to start working, and about halfway through the construction process, keep in mind he's tired, he's ready to retire.

But he realizes this is gonna be a lot more difficult than I thought it would be.

So he begins to cut corners.

He doesn't lay the foundation the way that it should be laid.

He cuts corners over here where the stairwell, he said, man, that's gonna be too difficult.

So I'll do it this way.

Finally, after a couple of years, he finishes building this house.

He goes to his boss, he said, Boss, uh, I'm ready to retire.

This incredibly wealthy man that designed the home, took the keys, tossed it to the builder.

He said, That house is yours.

The whole time he had no idea that he was building his own house, and for the remainder of his life, every time he would walk around the corner and see that cracked wall, he would be reminded of the moments that he cut corners, that he he would be reminded of the moments that he could have had integrity, he could have been honest and built it the right way, but he chose not to.

And today I want to speak to all of the leaders in the room.

That's what you and I are doing each and every day.

We have the opportunity to wake up, be men and women of integrity, to have honesty, to do things with excellence, and as we do that, what we're doing is we're creating the house that all of us are going to live in.

There are future generations that are going to live in what we build today.

And so really my prayer is for our city is that we would continue to be men and women of integrity, that we would be men and women that would do things with excellence and do it the right way because there are future generations that depend upon it.

I want to pray for us and uh just ask that God would bless this time, but but also that God would continue to have his hand of favor upon the city of Detroit.

Would you pray with me?

Heavenly Father, you are so good.

You are a good, good father.

Heavenly Father, you are holy.

And God, we thank you for the generations of blessing that you have provided to this great city.

God, we ask that your hand of provision, your hand of protection, would remain on the city of Detroit.

God, that we would have leadership that would continue to be men and women of integrity, that we would do things with excellence as we think about generations to come, how we could instill a legacy in our children and our children's children.

God, I ask that today you would just uh help us to keep at the forefront of our minds that we are speaking to our brothers and sisters in the faith, and that we would use kind, loving, encouraging words as together we build this great city that you've called for us to continue to build.

God, I ask for just a hedge of protection around all of the leadership uh here in Detroit.

God, would you just continue to give them wisdom?

And God, would you do what your word says?

God, would you provide them with a piece that would surpass their own understanding?

God, I thank you for them to put their yes on your yes.

Many a times it's a position that goes unthanked.

And God, I thank you today for calling them, equipping them for such a time as this.

God, we thank you for all that you're doing in each and every heart and life in the city, and God, what you're doing collectively across this beautiful city.

God, we love you, we praise you.

And everybody in the room said, Amen.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Pastor Chacter.

Thank you so much for getting us started the right way.

Um, we are you're so welcome to stay and join and stay with us today.

But understand if you have a schedule that does not allow you to be here for the remainder of the meeting.

So, but thank you again.

Uh, Madam Clerk, the journal of the session of Tuesday, May 5th, 2026, will be approved.

If you can also note that we have been joined by Member McCampbell.

And Member Johnson.

Clerk will so note, Mr.

President.

Thank you so much.

Uh, before we move forward, colleagues would like to now have a special presentation uh presented by none other than our colleague member with Phil Callaway.

Member Calloway.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, good morning, everyone.

Um, I have two presentations, and I'll start with Isabine Smith.

Isa B.

Isa Bean Smith.

And if she could wave for us, just wave so we'll all be able to see her.

Isa Bean Smith.

Isa Bee Smith is hereby presented with this gratitude, an expression of esteem of the citizens of the city of Detroit for your decades of devoted service, unwavering faith, and lasting impact across generations.

Miss Smith is a district two resident since 1955.

She is a remarkable woman whose life reflects a deep commitment to family, faith, and community.

Born in Ruston, Louisiana, but raised in Detroit, she built a legacy grounded in education, service, and enduring relationships.

For over six decades, Miss Smith has been a devoted church member, community supporter, welcoming presence to all she encounters.

Her dedication extends to nurturing generations of family members whose achievements reflect her strong values and guidance.

Through a lifetime of service, love and connection, Miss Smith continues to inspire all of those around her on behalf of myself, Councilmember Callaway, and the entire Detroit City Council and the City of Detroit, we celebrate you, Miss Smith, for your outstanding accomplishments and the impact that you've had in your community and in the city of Detroit.

Let's give her a hand.

But I definitely want to give her her flowers separate from Mr.

Wellbourne.

So if you can escort Ms.

Smith to the podium to see if you, one of her daughters, one of her family members would like to speak on her behalf.

If she can't get there, that's fine.

If you'd like to speak on her behalf, you'll go right there to the podium.

And she's all bedazzled, so we definitely want to see the bedazzle in.

And her king is bedazzled.

Yes, and her shoes.

So from head to toe, Miss Smith is bedazzled.

Yes, she is.

Okay, so push, yeah.

There you go.

Good morning.

On behalf of Icephine Smith, also known as Mother, I am her oldest granddaughter Dana.

And we also have her three daughters, Diane, Joanne, and Frieda, and her grandsons AJ and James present.

She is 94 years old, still up and moving and faithful.

Mother is deeply honored and truly grateful to accept the Spirit of Detroit Award.

To be recognized by the City Council in this way is both humbling and meaningful.

Receiving an award that represents service, dedication, and community impact is something that Mother will always cherish.

Mother is dedicated to her church, Wisconsin Avenue Church of God.

She's an active member with the Eight Mile Old Timers Association, 12th Precinct, and donating yearly to support community activities.

It reflects the support, encouragement, and collaboration of so many people who have walked alongside her, her family, friends, colleagues, mentors, and the community members who inspire her daily.

Being able to make even a small difference in the lives of others is one of the greatest privileges.

The spirit of Detroit represents resilience, compassion, strength, and unity.

Qualities that continue to inspire her.

She accepts this award with gratitude and with a renewed commitment to continue serving with purpose and passion.

Thank you all again to the city council for this incredible honor.

She is truly grateful.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We have an additional presentation to make.

William Wellbourne trained as a cruise chief and aircraft mechanic, working on some of the most advanced fighter jets of his time, while building a reputation for excellence and precision.

And whereas William Wellbourne served during critical moments in history, including deployment to Korea and assignments across the United States, Asia, Europe, and North Africa.

Mr.

Wellbourne made a global impact through his technical expertise and unwavering commitment to duty in locations ranging from Japan to England to Libya.

And whereas Mr.

Wellbourne played a vital leadership role during pivotal events such as the Cuban crisis and the Vietnam War.

William Wellbourne rose to the rank of Chief Master Sergeant and led with distinction.

And led with distinction as a line chief and non-commissioned officer in charge of fighter aircraft operations.

William Wellbourne continued to excel after more than three decades of honorable military service by contributing to major organizations and civilian leadership roles.

William Wellbourne also pursued higher education across multiple institutions, demonstrating a strong commitment to growth and lifelong learning.

And whereas Mr.

William Wellbourne has shown an equally strong dedication to community service in Detroit through numerous leadership roles, supporting public safety and civic engagement.

Mr.

Wellbourne has has been a resident of none other than the most amazing district on all of the city.

That would be district two.

Since 197.

Mr.

Wellbourne has contributed his time and expertise to organizations, including the Detroit chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen.

Leaving a lasting legacy of service, leadership, and impact.

Now therefore, be it resolved, myself, Councilmember Callaway, and the entire Detroit City Council and all Detroiters hereby celebrate you, Mr.

Wellbourne, for your accomplishments and your continued dedication to serving the community that you love and you call home, the city of Detroit.

Thank you, Mr.

Wellbourne.

And if we can have Mr.

Wellbourne, if you'll allow him, Mr.

Wellbourne, if you can make your way down to the podium, we'd like to hear from you, sir.

Absolutely.

We'd be honored to hear from you, sir.

Yes, Mr.

Wellbourne.

President of Black Stones, President of Blackstone.

Good morning, Councilman.

Good morning, sir.

I want to thank Ms.

Kelloway for this uh auspicious occasion.

Uh I don't think I deserve it.

I tell you, I uh I just did my duty, that's all.

My duty was to uh do certain things, and I did it.

And sometimes uh you don't have a choice, and all the military people in here know that when the president says do something, no matter who it is, you go ahead and do it.

Uh our country is uh a country that you volunteer or you draft to whatever you may be, but I love the Air Force, and I really enjoyed being in the Air Force, and I've seen more countries than all these people in this building here.

I've been to more countries, some countries don't even exist anymore in the Baltic.

I've been to those all over the far Japan, uh, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, uh, Philippines, Thailand, uh, all over Europe, and it's been great, and I really appreciate this uh award here, and I just hope I can keep going.

I'm reaching for 100.

I got seven more years to go.

And I know that I get you because most of our guys live to be 100.

And uh, we got one guy that's uh he's still living, he's 110 years old.

He just got awarded uh this keychain city, and I think it's Memphis, but uh wish you heard it.

That's my goal.

Thank you, Mr.

Wellbourne.

And I want to again, I want to thank you and everybody here that came down here to help me celebrate.

I really really appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Mr.

Wellbourne, I want to go back here.

Can you go back?

I don't know if my colleagues want to say anything to Mr.

Wellbourne.

Mr.

Wellborn, I'm not trying to put your business out there, but I'm gonna put your business out there.

How old are you, sir?

I'll be 93 in a couple in two months.

And he still is the guiding light for very um well-established community um association in the Schaefer Eight Mile Area called Blackstone.

He leads that meeting once a month.

He does incredible, and um, he leads with integrity and precision.

So I thank you for being an outstanding leader in the community.

But I don't know if my colleagues want to say anything to you, and then we'll take the picture with you and then with Ms.

Smith.

So if my colleagues through the chair, yeah, Mr.

Wilburne I just want to say thank you for all the service that you provided, this country and this city and your neighborhood, right?

That's very, very important.

All these different layers of leadership that you provided um and work.

Um, I haven't seen you all as much as I I used to back in the day when I was at large.

Um now that we're down into now that we're into districts, but you just know that uh me and my team will be willing and always able to work with member Callaway to address any concern that you and your your your neighbors have in the community, and again, just thank you so much for all the work that you've done, and we wish you nothing more than the success, uh, more than the success that you have had uh in the past.

So thank you so much yet again.

Somebody had to do it, so I and I thank you all.

And I thank you for not just talking, right?

You're gonna have some folks all they do is talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.

And you're gonna hear some of that today in public comments.

Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.

Okay, but you actually do the work.

You are actually somebody who rolls up your sleeves, and you do talking as well, but that action, that action is what counts.

So thank you again for your action.

Thank you, thank you.

Thank you very much.

God bless you.

Okay, thank you.

Discussion, uh, member Benson.

All right, thank you.

Uh Mr.

Wilburne, it's good to see you here.

And I feel honored by the fact that I've known you since you were in your 80s, and so it is fantastic to see someone who has your record of service to this country and continued service to our community.

So when I become a management like yourself, who is active, who is still contributing, that's what I seek.

I want to be a servant leader into my 90s, and if I'm so um blessed to go into be a centurion as well, but this is what I strive for, and your legacy is fantastic, and just your spirit and what you exude and what you give to everybody is the kind of legacy that I want to live, you know.

I want to lead.

And the fact I'm also a veteran, also just gives me another um opportunity to say thank you for your sacrifice and your and your willingness to serve your country.

And as you said, it's not about the person in the seat, it's about the seat itself.

We serve when you're in the military selflessly, but we also understand how to give a legal order, but also how to follow a legal order, and that's what makes us the greatest military on the planet, and men like yourself are what continue to make that this the greatest military on the planet.

So I just want to say kudos and fair winds, following seas, and bravo zoodo to you, Mr.

Wellbourne.

Thank you.

Thank you, thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, it's mine is very short.

We love you, we appreciate you.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Mill.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Well, Miss Mr.

Chair, if we could go down and take a picture with Mr.

Wellbourne first, and then Miss Smith, if that's okay.

That sounds like a plan to me, madam.

Mr.

Wellbourne since he's here.

We have been joined by member waters as well.

Oh, uh Tim.

Um, I just wanted to say um words cannot express how thankful we are to you and everything that you've done.

And in a time when it feels like black rights are under assault, black history is under assault.

Um, the reason why I am able to enjoy all the rights that I have, the first generation to be able to do that is because of your sacrifice, because you shed blood, sweat, tears, and toil, and we're willing to give the ultimate sacrifice of your life for people you didn't even know, which I think redefines heroism on a normal day basis.

And um being a son of the Tuskegee.

I cannot express how thankful we are to you and what you've done.

And I know that my father was arrested in the Freeman Field Union.

Um allow black officers in the in the officers club.

And he says that is a G rate show, so I can't say what he said or what he felt about that.

But that was cool.

What you have done.

I can exercise my rights to use the public facilities.

I can go to a restaurant and into the front and not the badge.

As long as we able to keep it, have the right to be able to vote and exercise my franchise that all the things that become with being an American citizen.

You fought fascism abroad and racism at home and one on both fronts.

So I appreciate you.

Love you, God bless you.

It's my honor to be able to be a part of honoring you today.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Yeah.

Yes.

It was it was it was what I had said last week that we didn't read that it was the administration and all that stuff.

And everyone, please give another round of applause to today's awardees.

Right.

Okay, Madam Clerk.

Are you still in session, everyone?

Still in session.

For the budget finance and audit standing committee.

Oh, uh, before we go forward, like to now that the collection of public comments our cards have now been um have now concluded.

For the budget, finance and audit standing committee, clerk.

Six reports from various city departments.

The six reports will be referred to the budget finance and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee.

Five reports from various city departments.

The five reports would be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the it for the neighborhood and community services standing committee.

Mr.

President.

I'm making sure they choose to have a quorum.

Oh, there you go.

Yes, we do we do have a quantum.

We have a quote.

No, no, no, no worse, no worse.

We have a quorum.

I have five reports uh for the neighborhood and community services.

Yes, there is, Mr.

President.

My apologies.

There's five.

Five reports from various city departments.

The five reports would be referred to the neighborhood and community services standing committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

Four reports from various city departments.

The four reports would be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.

13 reports from various city departments.

13 reports would be referred to the public health and safety standing committee.

We will now move to the voting action matters.

I'm reading them home.

Yes.

Thank you much.

Under matter, other matters, Madam Clerk.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

Under communication from the mayor and other governmental officials and agencies.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

Thank you so much.

We will now call for public comment.

We're gonna give everyone two minutes for public comment today, whether you're in person or online.

And our first speaker is Walter Brown, followed by Eileen, Eileen Williams, followed by Renita Moore.

Morning, sir.

And you want to hit that button and just want to let everyone know that we will have to cut off your mic after your two minutes.

So please be mindful of the two minutes.

The clocks on the screen up front.

Um and we will provide comments after everyone uh provides their public comment.

We being the city council.

Mr.

Brown, again, the floor is yours.

Good morning.

Hit that button in front of you until the red turns green.

There you uh there you go.

Thank you, sir.

Good morning, council.

Good morning.

Uh my name's Walter Brown.

And I want to thank you guys for at least starting to provide benches and shelters for the bus riots.

Uh I also want to know uh will you be removing those uh boarding platforms that you have on Jefferson, which you spend over three million dollars for.

And also, uh is it possible to retrain the get the uh grass cutting crew on how to cut grass and edge the grass up?

Um a lot of grass around there um need to be edged.

We we put in a new sidewalks, and you know it's concrete, don't get a chance to dry stars deteriorating.

And if you don't have enough uh workers to do that, uh students uh the students from school uh out this summer, they need a part-time job.

You know, teach them how to cut grass, yes, the grass up to give the crews a helping hand, but they can get jobs done.

And also uh I live not nearby Connors, and where we have all those trucks going up and down corners there, is it possible we can start putting putting in more trees to help uh dampening noise and uh help the pollution up and down corners from Jefferson all the way up to Harper.

Uh, you know, those trust come off uh I 94, you know, going east and west, north and south on uh criminals there.

So uh and also if you have a department that you can maybe call uh do this make any sense where you can talk about the pros and cons of projects that you might have coming to the city or uh the city is gonna be you know promoting, and that's my comment.

Appreciate it.

Thank you so much.

And as noted, uh any comments from the the body will happen after all of the public commenters uh complete their their comments.

So stick around if you're looking for uh any statements from this body.

All right, thank you.

All right, thank you so much.

Our next speaker is Eileen Williams, followed by Renita Moore.

Hi, I'm Aileen Williams and my can you put that mic down so we can hear you?

I want to make sure you hear you well.

Okay, my issue is I got a bullet hole in my car, and my neighbor was just not that long ago moved in with her children.

She got two in her house.

I went to the police precent yesterday.

By the time I got home, somebody else had got shot on my street.

Now they tell me that we got neighborhood police.

They tell me that I got a captain and a commander at the ninth precinct.

When I call, I don't get nobody.

These young fellas was literally walking up and down the street in the daylight, shooting at each other.

Okay.

They put a basketball ram in front of my house.

That's when I call because I knew the trouble.

Well, they they did.

They said, well, they is allowed to have that.

And I and I understand that.

But when your ball, whatever it goes out of bottom, it's coming in my yard, hitting my car, hitting my windows, hitting on my grass.

I got a problem.

Now I remember when Killpatrick had those removed.

And I appreciate him doing that.

But what I'm asking for now is help.

I need to be able to know that when I call the police, they gonna come.

See, the people on my block is basically basically just women by themselves.

Got two or three kids.

I'm by myself.

I'm 67 years old.

I'm scared.

I am so scared.

And then they have a nerve to tell me, well, when we come out, if we can't come to your house, how do we don't?

You can't come to my house.

These people seeing you come to my house.

I've already been told to shut up.

So do you think I'm gonna say something when the police pull up at my house?

No, I'm not gonna do that.

I'm not trying to die.

But I do need help.

Now I'm supposed to go up here on the ninth present when I leave here to speak to a uh uh a captain uh greer and a commander miss Williams.

What district do you live in?

I live in district four.

Okay.

Uh I'm sure that someone from the district 14 will uh take you off to the side and assist, and we will also help as needed as well, because you should not have to go through that.

So I apologize on behalf of the city.

We're gonna do better and try to get our residents to do better as well.

Thank you so much.

Thank you all.

Thank you.

Our next speaker, Renita Moore, followed by Char Williams.

I've been dealing with Section A since the 90s.

And the house that I'm in, they I was down here a couple weeks ago.

They came out, not for the inside of the house.

They looked at the sidewalk.

Ain't no work been done.

The house is messed up.

I don't even it's worse than any house that Section A have put me in.

Y'all say they have inspectors.

What is these inspectors doing?

Somebody ain't training them right, or they just don't do the job right, and they just throwing us in them.

They don't care.

The wall is messed up in that basement, and I can smell stuff, and then I'm constantly coughing and spitting up stuff that just not just abnormal every time I wake up.

That's ridiculous.

That's messing with my health.

It wasn't going on before then, but it's doing it now.

Something needs to be done.

They ain't doing it.

Like the man said, the late man that worked with them, say the president owned the house, all he wants to do is patch up.

And that's all I have seen.

And it and the same resort happened all over again.

Something needs to be done about how section eight doing people's in these houses, but y'all took to your helping us.

But if I got to count and keep moving, it ain't doing me no good.

Miss Moore, what district is your current residency?

I'm at 48234.

I'm not sure what district that is.

Okay.

I just near you.

We will connect you with uh the council member who represents the district.

And I know you also have two at-large members as well who I may be able to assist.

So someone from the team asked you to assist Ms.

Moore.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Our next speaker, Char Williams, followed by Betty Lines.

Hello through the share.

I was at 3426 Back Avenue.

This is over a year and a half ago.

And like I stated before, I do not feel safe because I'm speaking about this illegal corruption, but I'm not gonna tolerate officers that's on the Detroit police department endangering my life every day.

I shouldn't have to feel like this.

And if you had done your job correctly, I wouldn't be up here speaking about it.

Like you said, actions, accountability, transparency, integrity.

Okay, so when the tech uh IN officer came to the shelter to be removed these weapons, when I'm talking about ex-defenders, and then one I know for certain is a real police officer.

So at the time when the internal affair officer came, the tears look alike.

He was sitting next to the chief.

So a couple weeks ago, I was at the headquarters.

I'm still talking about these two officers that threatened my life that said that they're gonna kill me that stay in the shelter.

So at this present time, the chief got up and walked.

I'm a citizen, I'm a U.S.

citizen.

I don't have no fake nine.

I am who I am.

So when you get up and leave out, because you don't want to hear what's going on, it's a problem.

This is the chief you hired in.

And he was sitting next to the chief.

So, like I said, it's accountability, actions.

And if you don't do your job correctly, you will be held accountable.

That's the bottom line.

We should not have to have nuts on the Detroit police department, ex dope dealers, killers, rapists, and all these lunatics that you didn't unleash because you did not do your job property with this background check.

That's the bottom line.

These housing vouchers, they taking up them and they fake names.

It's nothing that none of that shouldn't have took place all these years for 12 years.

You've been on this board.

Thank you.

Next speaker, Miss Betty Lyons, followed by Fidel Light.

Integrity.

That preacher said that word several times.

So it's something that he sees that y'all lack.

That he saw it and he said it.

Duty, Mr.

Wellborn, he's right.

We all have duty.

And you have a duty to the citizens.

You're not doing your duty.

Over 600 million dollars in overpaid property tax stolen from Detroit residents by Mike Dugan, whose eyes and facial appearance continues to change to the evil serpent he is.

The word conversion, the civil or criminal act where a person wrongfully exerts control over another one's property, interfering with the owner's rights.

This is what Mike Dugan did with his dirty lawyers, Conrad Mallet, Whitaker, and Anderson.

These are his stooges.

Now you could have jumped on this, Mr.

Whitaker.

That word conversion enough to get our money back.

But you didn't, none of you did.

Console said nothing.

All you talk about is illegal immigrants, wrong folks who shouldn't even be here.

You spoke up for them.

And the last thing, honor, Papa, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Not only right on point, but bringing forth what council hides from the people, and you keep on keeping on.

You appear to be learning well from Fink, that attorney in Bloomville Hill who takes willfully from Detroit millions of dollars, takes it to Bloomville Hills.

You're learning well, and it fears that you're doing the same thing that he's doing.

And I don't have enough time, but thank you anyway.

Followed by Brother Cunningham.

Yeah, that's just amazing.

That's just amazing.

Hey, I got one thing for you.

I'm gonna keep it short and clear.

This water drain off fee.

It went to court.

Court says that it's illegal.

You guys agree to pay some odd millions for, but here's the honor, and here's the ignorant and the corruption of it.

How do you still let water drain off fees go?

How you still let it go on?

The court said it's illegal.

You pay millions of dollars for it, but you still got it going on.

How is that?

Huh?

This is why we got a complaint against you guys.

Even when we write, y'all say we wrong, and y'all do absolutely nothing about.

Let me see any one of y'all get out of here.

And this is why I sit here and say, y'all the most ignorant, low life, devilish city council of all.

But you guys call yourself Christian.

Some of y'all educated, and most of all, y'all Democrat.

Let me let me hear what y'all gotta say about this water drain off feed that y'all agreed to pay for, but it's still going on.

It's supposed to have been stopped when the courts agreed that it was wrong.

Uh, our next speaker is Josh Mann.

Followed by Brother Cunningham.

Good morning.

Yeah, I stand with him on them.

Water charges are killing me.

They're no good.

Uh, and then they just popped up out of nowhere on us a handful of years back and still running this.

We gotta change that.

So I'm an avid bike rider.

I write 15 to 30 miles a day every weekend.

I go downtown.

This weekend downtown was insane.

The kids, those kids raising hell down there, you're talking thousands of them.

And they don't have no place to go, they can't go, they don't have only 7 Eleven.

They're not hitting any restaurants, bars, shops.

So it's just hundreds of kids, and they're talking mess to grown-ups.

So I'm like, what's gonna happen when I get jumped by these kids for just trying to push through 50 of them?

And it was the girls that were the worst part of it.

The boys will scrap, but the girls, man, they were talking so much nonsense.

That needs to be addressed like real quick.

We need to, we need to talk to the mayor about those bus passes.

It's like they don't need bus passes to 11.

Six is plenty.

Eleven, what do they need to be out to 11 for students?

And this was on a Sunday night, too.

Saturday, Friday, every night, Sunday night was equally as crazy.

That was when the shooting happened.

So that was crazy.

All right, back to Flock and that Palantir stuff.

The mass surveillance, I don't mind if we have mass surveillance in a city property, it's city owned.

But allowing Peter Thiel, the co-founder of Palantir, who's running these flock cameras is the fourth most mentioned person in the Epstein files.

This dude does not need any of our data.

We don't need that.

If it's privately state, our city's data, but you're a subscriber to a worldwide functioning database.

They don't need no other state needs access to where we're at, what we're doing, who we're driving with.

If you guys want that, that's one thing.

But allowing another out of country, out of state ownership, and a dude that's running with in the Epstein files, come on.

You guys gotta protect us from that.

Have a great day.

Next speaker, Brother Cunningham, followed by Liberty.

Thank you for your time.

Thanks for listening.

Hello, President.

Um, hello, everybody.

313, 444, 9114, 313, 444, 9114.

313, 444, 9114.

That number was made so you can remember it.

Um there's a LAC meeting today, 12, and then this Thursday is a Detroit Department of Transportation input meeting.

Which they listen to peons, and I appreciate that.

They do pizza and two 31-day bus pass raffles and is drawing a crowd, is drawing new voices.

And I just thank the director for listening to someone who doesn't have money, never came from money, didn't have name recognition, just come up with ideas, and he's very receptive of using those.

Um has some Ike my vehicle and vehicles ticking a little bit.

I do, I'm not destitute like I once was.

But if anybody knows of uh anyone selling a van, um, that I can um hold disabled folks and et cetera.

Again, I'm not begging for the money for it.

I just need some some favor, a vehicle that is uh uh adequate for what I'm doing.

Dot still like luster after 6 p.m.

on the weekdays and on the weekends.

If you can, if you're an incumbent or a candidate, let's uh do a bus ride along.

It's productive talking to the people.

And I've asked y'all to pray, and I have been praying period before scratching the heads, some laughing.

It's cool.

Just praying the Holy Spirit, put my name in the atmosphere, my mom, and show them reliance, and uh I pray for you, you pray for me.

These last 16 seconds, I just pray it on out.

It it is and they're so do showabasa.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you.

And they touch not God's anointing through the servants, no harm.

Thank you, Brother Cunningham.

Our next speaker, Liberty, followed by Terry Jones and our final in-person speaker, Mr.

Foster.

Good evening, or actually, good morning, sorry.

Um, my name is Liberty, and let us never lose our focus or a purpose.

If your contract or your paycheck comes from the taxpayers, or you pay taxes.

We need to make this pledge.

We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic, not the democracy, for which it stands.

One nation under God, not Allah, indivisible with liberty and justice for all US citizens.

I've seen many cities, especially after doing the budgeting processes.

Um struggle.

So I want I feel compelled to give you a quick visual budgeting 101.

Um, imagine that this is the revenue that uh you collect for core government services, police fire road, water sewage, courts, basically law and order for a good uh community.

When uh you know, to grow that you add people, you live below your budget, you cut red tape for small businesses, and that growth.

But if you start giving away tax breaks, subsidies, money to charities, dollars to illegal citizens, and you overspend the money for the core services are gone.

The only way that you can make that up is to increase prices for the services, squeeze more taxes out of the overtaxed um taxpayers, take houses, property.

You know, that's the only way to do it.

Need to stop giving away all of these tax breaks, some subsidies, get rid of all illegals on you know, social security, um food stamps, using off our precious limited resources.

Thank you.

Another our next speaker is Terry Jones, our final speaker, Mr.

Foster.

Can I wait till she get here?

Can't hear you.

Can I wait?

Pull that mic up to pull that mic up.

Can I get wait to let Tissia John to get here?

No, sir.

Your time is okay.

This is what's going on.

It's water for the tissue Josh.

I've been helping me a lot.

But I'm getting ready to turn this into what I say, U.S.

attorney general.

Because I did my research on my house.

I got 24 D's on one house.

I got notaries that not even legit.

Why is I'm doing my work to keep my house, get my house back, and I'm not getting no help from the city.

We paid y'all, y'all in the city council.

Y'all get paid.

I see houses getting taken daily.

And my thing is how's my house 616,000?

To who did the taxpayers get?

We ain't getting that money.

Why get that money?

And people are sitting around here thinking this is a joke.

My thing is we need to stop this for real.

We need to get into that Wayne County Deeds Department and find out what's going on.

Who's letting this stuff go through?

Because ain't nobody supposed to lose their house like I did.

This house, I got September 2020, September 12, 2022.

Ain't no way in the hell I was behind my um property taxes because I was exempt from 22 to 23, 24.

I got my tax papers and my name.

How does Mutual Property Management Company LLC run my stuff all the way to Ohio, California?

How California got something to do with Michigan?

How Ohio got something to do with Michigan.

Nobody's saying nothing about it.

But I'm doing all my research, getting off my job.

I drive a truck.

For me to fight for my house, I gotta get off my job.

Ain't none of y'all paying me.

Pay me to do my y'all job.

Thank you so much.

Next speaker, Mr.

Foster, the final speaker in person.

Good morning.

Uh duty, council president, council buddy.

Um, first of all, I just thank God.

I think we all are unique in our own ways.

Um, I have our unique gifts.

I believe my unique gift may be the gift of dad.

So I'm in the right place to talk and speak and uh see the evidence of what it is that I speak out here.

Very grateful for that.

And so, secondly, uh, I'm very happy to see our veteran here.

See him in the community uh over years as an Air Force veteran.

Um, and I think it's important to understand the Korean war is a war that never ended.

There's been a ceasefire for the last 60-something years with the DMZ and everything else.

So it's very, very important to understand.

Uh thirdly, with in light of things that went over for children again.

I want to make sure that our children are just adolescents and not exposed to any type of gang ideology.

I believe that our DDC should uh start to record what would be identified as the security threat group, our markers, common identifiers, uh what these new tattoos may be.

So we can intervene with these things at early age and identify no worse in our community.

I think we'd be in a better place to be proactive and address a lot of these things as well as the influences that may be influencing their behavior.

We know that parents don't influence kids to go out and behave, so they are influenced somewhere else.

Have to identify where their influence is coming from and redirect those influences.

Thirdly, yeah, I like Mr.

Durhall.

Um, I appreciate him.

I think you'll do well on a DDA.

I didn't see the other gentleman's interview, but um, whoever he is, uh, wish I will, and I hope that they um start to change these times and trends.

I appreciate Job House when over there, I like what they do always stand and tell us with the legislative body on every level, making sure the community's involved.

So very, very happy for those things.

Um case of 35.

You want fresh fish, you got to play them.

Thank you.

All right, we will now transition to our online callers.

Good morning.

Um we have and who do we have first?

Morning, Council President.

We have 23 online with our first caller being caller in and then 169.

All right, caller ending in one six nine.

The floor is yours.

You have two minutes of general public comment.

Hello, hello.

Can you guys hear me?

Yes, sir.

Bad unity, bad unity, bad unity.

It is easy to unite and hold little brother Cunningham down.

That's easy, but to take on harder challenges is hard.

Unity one yarn 317.

But who so hath this world's good and see if his brother have need and shut it up his vows of compassion from him.

I'll dwell the the love of God in him, the love of God is not in you, the love of God is not in you, the love of God is not.

And you ask yourself, yes, you listening, yes.

Look in the mirror, ask yourself is the love of God in you.

Thank you for my time.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is going to be Frank Hammer.

Frank Hammer, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Good morning, city council.

Good morning, President Tate.

Are Detroit's midterm elections in peril?

Judge for yourself.

Think back to what President Trump said to his followers in 2024.

You won't have to do it anymore.

He said, Four more years.

You'll know what it'll be fixed.

I'll be fine.

You won't have to vote anymore.

In four years, you don't have to vote again.

Years before that, Trump lied about the integrity of Detroit elections.

He said, Detroit and Philadelphia are known as two of the most corrupt political places anywhere in our country.

Easily, they cannot be responsible for engineering the outcome of a presidential race.

Our campaign has been denied access from doing any counting in Detroit.

I would not say it has the best reputation for election integrity.

In Detroit, there are far more voters and people.

Nothing can be done to cure that giant scam.

Earlier this year, Trump said the Republicans should say we want to take over.

We should take over the voting in at least 15 places.

The Republicans are to nationalize the voting.

He stated, go to 2020 and look at the facts that are coming out.

Rigged crooked elections.

Take a look at Detroit.

Take a look at Philadelphia and Atlanta.

Horrible corruption on elections.

And the federal government should not allow that.

The federal government should get involved.

Fortunately, there's pushback from the governor and the city clerk's office.

Whitmer said, let her let's be very clear.

Any attempt by the federal government to take over Michigan elections is out of the question.

Same thing for city clerk with uh Winfrey.

I want city council to take a state.

Thank you.

Let's call her please.

Excuse me.

Our next caller is going to be Sheree Moreau.

All right, caller.

The floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Yes, I'm here.

Can you guys hear me?

Yes.

All right, thank you.

First, I'll just like to um address the issue.

The last time that I was at a city council meeting, there was a comment made that we come down to the city council meetings only to get likes on Facebook and social media.

And I don't like to sit back and say that is far from the truth.

We come down there because we voted individuals in as being citizens.

We expect a certain outcome.

And when the things don't go the way we expect them to go or the way they should go, or the way they lost that they should go, then we come down there and complain.

Right.

And then today I'm listening to the guy who was giving the prayer.

And he was saying that it was based on integrity and doing the right thing.

How does the city council members truly feel about hearing that knowing that a lot of things they're not actually doing the right thing with?

Then I like to address a little issue with Lakoma Young Jr.

He said to the guy that you guys gave a war to earlier today that um he was correct that we owe our freedom to those men and women who stood up and sacrificed, but don't you think that we should be building our own communities up instead of just the just the downtown area?

It's like to me it's strong, right?

Then I was sitting back talking to some federal officers, and it's like they had this thing where when black people get in power, the politicians, they start probing and looking for things, and they like the things that they're working on now, is bigger than the if they call it the Kwame 2.0, where it's like they all looking to take you guys down, and it's like are you guys seeing this?

Are you guys aware that they sitting back building cases on fraud on the dirt on the water storage?

There's so many different issues, and I just like to sit back and say that we need to get our youth involved that 90% of the individuals that are not voting.

That's what we need to concentrate on.

Thank you guys for your time.

Thank you.

Let's call it first.

Hey, Joker, talking to you, James E.

Tate Jr.

It's black bag, and I'm back outside, outside, outside, outside with it.

Now you called Kenisha Coman's mother and told her I wasn't the right representative for the family.

Now I done went out and proved you wrong.

Now I want to announce the ending of your political career.

You don't played with the right one, Joker.

Now you done called her in November of 2023 talking that nonsense about me not being the right representative, but I done told you Kenisha did not commit suicide, and I told you who did it and why I know that particular individual did it.

It was a 4700 worth of unemployment insurance money.

Kenisha was a victim of unemployment insurance fraud, James E.

Tate Jr.

And you and Comrade Mallet Jr.

And Janice Winfrey to cheater.

You know she cheated.

You ain't never said nothing about the findings on the allegations of voter fraud by anonymous citizen report that you didn't get.

But see, you on the Detroit Election Commission now as the council president, and I got something for all y'all.

You Janice and Comrade, y'all can smoke deep.

Because y'all been cheating in elections, and you are cheated in official numerous times, cheater.

And I'm black bag.

Let's call her please.

General public comment.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Yes, ma'am.

I cannot see being tripping on my phone or on my cabinet.

But I just see guys.

My next one will be Starbucks.

Um I'm glad that the mayor had the Starbucks to be fixed of the end of this year.

But remember the anyway.

And the bear cave need to be upgraded.

And it's love to be able to make sure that they can with our people in the country.

And one more about the house.

Later in life.

So please misstone the defunding and the time.

So please make sure that the contract to know what they are doing.

Please.

Thank you.

Thank you, Miss Mellow.

Let's call it please.

Our next call is going to be Steven Rimmer.

Hello, can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Council just want to call in and give a uh a little bit of update about the Leland House.

Um of you are aware, but residents are found finally back in the building after five months of being displaced, but now going back into their home has become another trauma.

So many residents have walked into a total loss of severe water damage.

I saw my own eyes, Mr.

Davis.

He lost nearly everything in his home.

Um it's just very frustrating and traumatizing again the situation.

Um has now showed up at the Mr.

Remer, your your microphone just got muffled.

Mr.

Remmer, your microphone just got let's stop his time.

Mr.

Remmer?

Mr.

Rimmer.

Mr.

Rammer.

Mr.

Rimmer, are you there?

Mr.

Rimmer.

One, two, three.

Oh.

Are you there?

Yes, can you hear me?

Now we can.

We had to stop your time because your phone became very muffled and we could not hear your audio.

So we're gonna allow you to continue your your comments through the duration of your time.

Yeah.

You may proceed.

So yeah, um, just a recap.

A lot of folks lost a lot of things.

Uh Mr.

Davis lost almost everything in his house due to water damage.

The moving crew has showed up at the building that was hired by the city of Detroit.

Um, but they have no supplies.

One of the residents was asked if they could use her curtains and tiles to wrap up her television when we were told that uh Comrade Mallet said the city of Detroit was gonna hire a disaster recovery group.

Um, and also residents are not getting full support from the housing revitalization department.

Some people are gonna staying with family friends and Airbnbs not getting any support or any uh communication with those folks.

Um, even residents that were relocated to recently towers, they had eviction notices filed on them because the city of Detroit failed to pay the property owners what they promised uh to support the displaced residents.

Um it's just very confusing to us.

We know the city of Detroit, uh the housing department and the new established HHF department, they receive roughly 80 million dollars a year.

So we're asking how much of this money is actually being used to protect displaced detraitors, um, people that are making sure these people are housed.

Um, and again, this just seems like a lot of reactionary things that we're doing.

We would really like to see something that addresses the root cause, and that would be acquiring Leland.

Thank you so much.

Our next call is going to be caller ending at 5 34.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning, man.

Be heard.

Yes, ma'am.

Yeah, I mean, what the gentleman just explained about the Leland, it just continues to be heartbreaking.

And yet I saw a proposal, you want to charge pre-inspection sales fees on houses, and you aren't even taking care of places like the Leland or senior apartments that didn't have working elevators or heat.

I mean, really, the whole BC thing needs to be re-evaluated.

Um, all that money you want to pay to think Braside to defend the allegedly the voter integrity of the city.

Why don't you just hand over the ballots like other jurisdictions have done if you've got nothing to hide?

And then there those are millions that probably that we could uh actually spend on the residents of Detroit instead of that wealthy attorney in Bloomfield Health.

Uh 8.6.

What is that for?

What legal services for multifamily housing is that for?

Uh the pain company.

I have photos of them.

They mow over garbage, just like the people that had that the people who want to build North End Landing, hire people who mow over garbage.

It's totally unacceptable.

27.6.

That should not be a privilege memo about the illegal nuisance abatement program.

Mary Waters has been telling you for years.

I've been telling you for longer than that that it's illegal.

Mr.

Tate voted for it, Mr.

Benson voted for it, Mary Sheffield voted for it, and anybody else who continued to fund the land bank pretty much voted for it.

That should not be a privileged memo.

I am tired as a resident of paying for the misdeeds of the city.

You guys need to control the city better.

And frankly, some of the religious people that you get to come and speak at the beginning are rather ignorant of what goes on in the city.

I'm not saying they're stupid.

I'm saying they're ignorant.

They don't know.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is going to be 1244.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Hello.

Hello.

My name is Madame May Bay Berry.

I'd like to thank the city of Detroit for raising the Juneteenth flag for the last two years.

I'm asking the residents of the city of Detroit to join me in raising that flag once again on Juneteenth Day, which is on a Friday.

I think it'll start about uh nine o'clock.

So please come and join us.

Join me in uh in the city of Detroit to help raise that flag, that Juneteenth flag on Juneteenth, June 19th, 2026.

Uh, we were the first major city in Michigan to raise that flag.

And I'm so proud of being able to be a part of that.

Also, I will be at Martin Luther King Memorial Park on the 23rd, which is on that on that Tuesday.

We will be talking about uh the things that need to be done for the park as well as other things that need to be uh at least acknowledged in the city of Detroit to round up um volunteers as well to find out who is doing what and what events please bring your literature.

Uh looking forward to seeing you on June the 23rd also at the Martin Luther King Park that is on both the Parks Boulevard and West Grand Boulevard.

We will be there around 10 o'clock and looking forward to seeing each and every one of you.

And my next mission for the city of Detroit is to work on reparations for the city of Detroit and the renovation of the 375 since you get ready to shut it down and uh let the citizens of Detroit be able to benefit more than just walkways and parkways.

We need to have more uh besides for the housing.

We need jobs, we need recreation for the children of our children of the city of Detroit, our future.

And I thank you for your time.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is going to be Miss Betsy A.

Warner.

Miss Betty A.

Varner.

The floor is yours.

We have two minutes, general public comment.

Uh, good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

I'm Betty A.

Varner, president of the Soda Elsewhere Black Association, advocating this morning for my community.

Um again, uh asking that uh the plans that were uh put in front of us last year.

There was multiple meetings with the administration uh in regards to uh the development and redevelopment and uh revitalization of our finkal corridor.

It was wonderful plans, wonderful ideas, but the problem is they said it was not any monies, and so I'm asking that monies be found for our finkal corridor.

We want to be treated the same as uh other beautiful corridors within the city of Detroit that have uh been redeveloped.

We deserve it.

We are doing our work.

We're doing the best that we can to improve our neighborhood and community.

We're buying vacant lots, we are beautifying them, and we are providing resources for the community.

We have partnered with the church, and it's helping us to achieve some goals, but we need help from the administration and from anybody else that's within the sound of my voice that can help uh make what's on paper become a reality.

Also, I'm asking my members are in support of the administration.

Please waive that $1,500 land use hearing fee.

Thank you for this time.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is going to be George Philson.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Can you hear me?

Okay.

I was uh, I know we got seven districts here.

I was calling around retirees, what the present setting council members are gonna do in an effort to see where we can get some relief from that situation.

Mary Waters and Dual was very instrumental in having the task force to get you some of these problems.

But I know that you got stipulation with the bankruptcy situation, but yet I feel that money should be found to restore that 4.5% cut of our pensions.

Just like Janet Motors, Janet Motors to me had come to be the slum landlord.

They're leaving the Renaissance Center and the D DA approval of $75 million to cut down the two towers and so forth.

And then under Sheffield on the City Council, they approve of the Hudson building with $65 million.

And then Brother Cesarina, they they want to re-renovate that again.

I see that what happened, mayor office, the city council and the governor's office should find a solution to where we get our 4.5% restored.

I didn't pay it up almost my uh uh callback money.

I only owe about $36,000, but still that was a necessary money.

It's like y'all as constables, y'all make $100 some thousand a year or more.

And if you take the 4.5% means that you're gonna get $4,500 less, bring y'all down to $95,000, uh almost $95,000.

So you see, you see the point.

Uh, it's gonna be a joint effort.

I know laws are with the situation with the bankruptcy, but it got to be a joint era by the mayor's office, city council, and the governor's office because everything started with the state of Michigan.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

The next caller is going to be Jacqueline.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning.

I was recently um just reading some things about these teen takeovers.

What I don't understand is um where was the chief of police, the mayor and everyone, when all of those um teenagers start congregating um downtown.

I have a granddaughter that goes downtown quite a bit.

She's young.

Well, she's 26 now, but I would hate to hear of something happening to her because of the you know the um violence that's starting to occur since it's been warm.

What I need to know is um when well, I know it it wasn't city council, it was actually the mayor who um invited the teens to speak about it, as opposed to having the teens and their parents speak.

But um I would like I said, I would just really hate if something happened to my granddaughter, which she doesn't live in Detroit, but she um has vowed or promised me that she would not come down there anymore, you know, until things are better.

But anyway, that would be my comment um as far as trying to understand where the authorities that um started this, as far as I'm concerned, given the um teens this um I guess insight that they have nothing to do.

But I suggest why not read a book if you're bored?

That's what I did as a teen, or um place scrabble or do a crossroad puzzle.

Everything doesn't have to be just outside where you know you may do.

I played with a rock and a stick when I was a kid and bored, but that's just my comment.

Thank you.

Goodbye.

You next caller, please.

Next caller is going to be owner paper.

Yes.

Um, thank you.

Um, Miss Lyons, we we serve the same God.

We serve uh the Lord Jesus Christ.

And when you see evil, you call out evil.

And what this council does is a lot of evil, um, especially to the people in the city of Detroit.

I'm not sure what they do in their personal lives, but I know what they do when they sit here at the table.

Uh, congratulations to the awardees.

Um, did they're deserving?

Um 18.20.

Have we done a feasibility study to find out if we can pay these salaries for these increases with all of the um uh uh uh subsidies that you give to these people who build these houses?

Um they're reducing the amount of money in the general fund.

And you know that's where you get paid from.

Um, can the general fund handle this and and has a feasibility study been done?

20.2, $51,000 at uh for this resident in in Pennsylvania to refill it.

Is this the dirty dirt?

Uh, how are we uh attributing filling some of these holes, a commercial building as well, uh spending 61,000, 63,000?

How are we how are we determining which houses and this is this from the dirty dirt?

Um the gentleman who said I know I know him.

Uh I used to speak to him on the radio.

Uh, the illegal um drainage fee.

It is illegal.

And I know you guys sat there and created some kind of thing where they had some valve that they used um to to uh legitimize uh this drainage fee on the people in the city of Detroit.

That is evil.

Um the drainage fee is illegal, it's illegal in Lansing, that's legal illegal in Detroit.

Um I'm not sure what Mr.

Tate thinks we ought to do.

He speaks and answers questions when he wants to, and when he doesn't, he's silent, but he should be silent all the time.

Thank you.

Peace.

Peace.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is going to be Samsung SMG991U.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Hello.

You don't have it, you don't have me up there.

We can hear you.

You can you hear me?

I can't hear me.

The floor is yours, Ms.

Riley.

Okay.

Good morning.

Um, I'm gonna speak of some things I spoke on before.

Um, I had mentioned about the D dot.

Need to uh bring back the Davison bus line back to the end of Davison and Van Dyke, not Joseph Campo and Nevada.

The city needs to lower the auto insurance.

We have people that live in the city that use outside addresses.

So to, you know, instead of moving everybody other people, you need to put the insurance down so they can use their address to vote in the city of Detroit.

Also to repear to being replaced while let's say in the sidewalks in 2016, and I know you all that's been there, and know I came down there with a with a boot on my ankle from when I fell on the city regularly got their sidewalks five times.

Me and my dad used to walk all the way to the power park.

So I wasn't clumsy or anything, and some of the sidewalks are still terrible.

So I need to let uh the mayor know which ones need to be done.

They still haven't been fixed five times.

And y'all should I should have sued y'all.

I called an attorney, a well-known attorney because I was referred to him by somebody.

I'm not saying who, and he told me I couldn't sue for the sidewalk.

And like when I talked to this other lady, she said, no, really, that's a lie.

A whole lot of people are suing the city for sidewalk.

I have a pay and my ankle due to default regularly behind sidewalks from the city of Detroit.

And I still want to be compensated.

I don't care who was 2016.

I tried to get an attorney, he lied, and he's a well-known attorney.

He should know who he is.

I'm I'm gonna mention his name one day.

Okay.

So yeah, I need to know how can I let the mayor know about what sidewalks around here that need to be repaired.

And we have a lot over here in District Three in my area.

They are they are horrible.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Good morning.

Uh thank you.

And um, I want to congratulate the awardees.

Um, also, I want to comment on uh the property tax reform ordinance.

Um, we want to have you fully implement the property tax reform ordinance, improve the residential economic condition factor, uh, improve the principal residence exemption, uh compensate over taxed homeowners through property tax credits or straight out money.

That's what we need.

Qualifications of the uh Detroit chief uh property tax assessor.

We want uh a properly qualified tax assessor when it comes to um our community um organizations being represented on the board of directors of the Charles H.

Wright Museum.

Yes, uh Coleman um the second pro Tim.

Uh we do have a problem with uh getting our story out, and we have a problem at that museum.

Our community voted for 13 uh representatives to uh be on the board of directors because of the uh propaganda from the Zionists and the uh white supremacists on the board of directors from those corporations that uh are on that board.

We demand our 13 representatives who include um organization, heads of organizations, community organizations in our community.

We demand them to be placed on that board of uh directors immediately, and we will have a better outcome in our um.

Next up is going to be William M.

Davis, sir.

William M.

Davis, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Uh, good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes.

Okay, I'd like to uh all city retirees and people who know uh deal with city retirees to know this.

Uh tomorrow.

Uh the city of Detroit has filed a motion for the final decree in the Detroit bankruptcy court.

A public hearing is scheduled for tomorrow on that motion at 11 a.m.

at 211 Westport in room 1922.

Uh a city of Detroit retiree, John Quinn filed this.

Uh, the challenging in that it is his belief and mine that the city should discharge you know the obligation for the annuity, you know, the annuity statements fund clawback, which is evil.

And uh the city trade, you know, we talk about Trump and the evil he's done, but actually, some of the what happened in the Detroit bank would is like a springboard to what happened, you know, it was happening now.

And that the whole bankruptcy was evil and corrupt, and as a grand theft, you know, the stole city of Detroit assets and penalized and hurt city general fund retirees.

So I encourage those retirees that still paying the newity fund savings uh clawback to come down and let your voice be heard.

I think the city should discontinue that.

Uh, as uh John Quinn is stating, and I think that we could do more to help the city of Detroit retirees because we have been robbed, we're being robbed every single month.

I don't think nobody that's sitting on that council could live on 50% less than what you was making in 2013.

Yeah, I think that this whole thing is racist and smacks of this wholesale discrimination against the city of Detroit and its assets.

Thank you.

Our next caller is going to be Kevin.

Kevin, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Are you there?

Caller, are you there?

Let's put their caller at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

Our next caller is going to be James Chandler.

All right, Mr.

Chandler, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes.

General public comment.

Good afternoon, council.

Can you hear me?

Yes, sir.

Uh affordable housing is not affordable.

Many landlords require tenants to earn two or three times the rent, even when applicants have strong history of paying on time.

Housing decisions should focus on whether someone can actually pay the rent, not rigid income formulas that shut out working families, seniors, and residents with non-traditional income.

I asked the council to consider an ordinance that limits excessive income requirements and promotes fair access to housing in Detroit.

I also want to raise concern about price gouging in the central areas such as housing, utilities, education, and health care and schools and universities, especially rising tuition fees and related costs often outweigh actual financial benefits students receive after graduation, which leads to more long term debt for students and families.

Many individuals are forced into financial strain that does not match earning outcomes in the job market.

Additionally, I encourage broader examination of how pricing structures across public and private systems affect working families or other reforms are needed to ensure fairness, transparency, and access.

Also, there's a program in California that we don't have in Detroit where people can become lawyers without schooling.

We haven't implemented any of those structures or programs in Detroit.

I was a previous write-in candidate for city council.

District one.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Karen Hammer.

All right, Karen Hammer, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning.

Can you hear me?

Yes, ma'am.

Spot shotter is not the solution.

Replace it with interventions that prevent rather than respond to gun violence in the community.

Hadley Pritchford, Wayne State Law Review has conducted research and data on this that specializes in gun violence and non-transparent police use of surveillance technology.

Shot spotter is an illusion of safety.

2024, Wayne County prosecutor said there is no data on confirmed versus false reports, and there have been no convictions.

And when crime has already been committed, no data is collected on the DPD's response time or recovered weapons at the scene.

Compared to 9-11 shot spotter equals more unfounded DPD response.

No improvements in gun run gun crime reduction or case clearance.

Rather, you should contract with community violence prevention instead.

Reported crime reduction in 2025 in Detroit, 30 to 70 percent in various neighborhoods.

This would be an example to follow.

Next caller, please.

Sir, I want to note that we're down to our last four callers.

Uh, with our next caller being Cindy Dara.

Cindy Dara, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Cindy Dara, are you there?

Yes, I'm here.

Um I went to a meeting over at Daybo last night where the police were trying to.

I think they might have been lying.

So how are we going to find out who's telling the truth?

I'd like to have Karen Hammer there in the meeting last night.

So uh I think that I've got so much to say about so many things.

But uh I I need help as far as my building.

And I so far, I guess the only great course I see is you have to get a lawyer and see the city because you can't get them to help you.

I I think that they've graded that lot next to me.

Uh the midtown got it and sold it to themselves.

Uh to Peter Road property, assume I was in the CEO.

She's part of Peter Road property.

So they they uh I think graded that lot when they took the grass off and put gravel down, and evidently it's I've got a drywall, 22 inches from my west wall.

And I can see the water marks coming way up the wall when it rains on that side.

I took the water off the roof and put it out on the sidewalk so there I could isolate this.

And that's what I look at right now.

I don't know what to do about getting help from the city.

Uh BC said find out what the water table is.

And I don't, it's not the water table because it's just something new since they put the gravel down.

So uh same truck that put that gravel down.

Also is the one they loaded my fence and my bicycle and used that same truck and loader that sort of loaded gravel down today that tore down everything and tried to make it more dangerous for me in my own building.

And so I we get out because I'm a danger.

You next caller, please.

Next call is going to be Zoom user.

Zoom user, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Hello there.

Hello.

Yes, I'm calling in today.

I need to uh I got concerns with the city of Detroit.

Uh the city of Detroit.

Who are we gonna do about all this?

All these uh grocery stores and gas stations selling expiring food and restaurants uh giving out expired food, old food.

Can people sick?

I mean, what and when is it with do anybody care of that about the people that live here?

TMC Sinai Grace is the busiest hospital in the state of Michigan, and that's because nobody has insurance over there.

And the health of the people is terrible because of the restaurants and the grocery stores and the gas stations, everything around there in the restaurants are selling expired food, and nobody cares.

And what is somebody got to do for somebody to stand up in the city of Detroit if you live here?

I mean, don't you want yourself to be able to get some fresh food?

You know, a fresh product to put in your body so you won't be sick.

I mean, golly.

That's the least you can do is have the health department check out all these places everywhere that's killing folks, and y'all not doing nothing about it.

Everything is expired and old and no good.

I mean, can you do something for us?

Well, that's what I want to know.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Uh next caller is going to be Vanetta Mayberry.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Yes, June 23rd, Martin Luther King Memorial Park at 10 o'clock.

We will be there.

Martin Luther King Memorial Park, City of Detroit.

Road to Park Boulevard, West Grand Boulevard.

See you there commemorating Martin Luther King's March for Freedom here in the city of Detroit since 1963.

This we be my fifth year there.

Come and join this.

And I thank you again.

Um City Council members who helped me to uh install that Juneteenth.

And everyone have a great day.

Enjoy the weather.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Returning to our caller in the queue.

Uh next up is Kevin.

All right, caller.

The floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Let's get the clock up at two minutes.

There we go.

Caller, are you there?

Caller, are you there?

Kevin, going once.

Going twice.

Going three times.

Caller, are you there?

Caller Kevin.

Unfortunately, we're gonna have to move on.

If you would like to provide your comments to the clerk's office, they will be placed on to public record.

Who's our next caller, please?

That conclude our uh all our public comments, sir.

All right, thank you so much.

This now closes out public comment.

Colleagues, any comments that you want to put forward?

Um response to any of the special comments of the public uh member Benson.

Um, and just a response to some of our commenters today.

This comes from Deuteronomy 10 19.

And you are to love those who are foreigners, foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.

In addition, just want to say, as an elected official, disparaging remarks that come towards us, that's part of the job.

But disparaging remarks that go towards our staff should be off limits.

Our staff work hard for the residents of the city of Detroit.

They are not public officials.

And hopefully would be spared for negative remarks, disparaging their integrity.

I support my staff and I support the common staff.

We have Detroit City Council members.

And I hope that people will have a basic level of respect for our staff members and not just spare us their integrity.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

And I also know that there was someone who called about expired food and you know said, what are you going to do for us?

We want to help.

We want to figure out where the locations are.

We as city council, some don't know this, but we don't run the departments.

That is uh a charter provision.

There's separation of powers.

But we do advocate on your behalf.

Uh and the best way for us to advocate is if we have that information.

So I'm not sure if you have any specific locations where they're um businesses that are serving uh expired food to the public.

Um, but we do know that many of our businesses do a tremendous job at providing uh safe food, providing food that is consumable, and we are enjoying it.

But for those are the outliers that are doing the wrong thing, we need you to let us know.

Uh you can give my office a call in particular, 313-224 1027 again, 313-224-1027.

Um, but you can also call the health department as well.

Member Benson, is there a health department number that you may have uh handy?

Mr.

Chair, I do not have the health department number handy, but there is the diangle confidence, and so those locations that are under the authority of the health department are inspected either biannually or annually, and they have to comply with the basic level of health and safety codes.

Unfortunately, when people think you go to grocery store and see if Detroit handles that inspection, that is not.

That is a state of Michigan.

That their health department inspects grocery stores and by and large gas stations, except for prepared food, which is also inspected by the health department.

If there are problems, you can go to Google search, Detroit Health Department, they will take an anonymous um tip online.

They will go to inspect, and they are very quick to inspect when there are anonymous tips regarding what people believe to be unsafe or unhealthy food standards and always look for your green placard at our Detroit restaurants.

This body approved the dining with confidence program, and it is robustly enforced by our health department to ensure that we can all in the city of Detroit dine with confidence and ensure that our families are fed healthy food, safe food.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Hope it helps, Mr.

Chair.

Absolutely.

Thank you so much, sir.

Member Callaway.

Uh, Mr.

Chair, can we get someone from the health department on and also BC regarding the question that the young lady um answered so she can get it from?

I don't want to say this, the horse's mouth.

Then also I'd like to ask them about um so B seed and health, and then I have a couple questions regarding something that's been brought to my attention by one of my residents.

Thank you, sir.

All right.

Um, Mr.

Washington, do you have anyone from BC?

Uh uh member Callaway, just to have a better understanding.

What direction are we going?

Because there's a number of folks that they can for BC.

I know we were talking about um spoiled expired food um allegedly being sold in um gasoline stations, price and liquor stores, um, and grocery stores, etc.

So I wanted to ask um through, I guess it would be BC or at the health department.

Um, are gasoline stations licensed to sell food?

Because now they are selling crispy chicken.

Um, I've seen a couple of gasoline stations in my own community that have been converted into many delis and restaurants, and I don't know if they have gotten the proper licensing, but they're popping up all over the place, and I don't remember them coming before this body to convert gasoline stations into restaurants in delis.

So I don't know if that's a requirement, but for my own edification, I just wanted to ask if we're talking about expired food and etc.

I think it's in the same vein, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Washington.

You have anyone available who can provide member calloway information on that question or Miss Sullivan.

I see you on the screen.

Good morning.

Good morning through the chair.

We do not currently have anyone online, but we are reaching out for a representative and we'll follow up.

All right, but we'll do uh member Callaway.

Uh, if we can put that question at the end of the agenda, and we'll just make sure we have someone available to provide that response to uh add on to what member Benson do I.

All right, any additional colleagues?

Seeing none, we should move forward with our agenda.

Understanding committee reports for the budget finance and audit standing committee from the butt from the office, excuse me, of the chief financial officer, uh, office of budget.

Council member McCampbell, a resolution line item 17.1.

Uh member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion motion to approve.

As a motion to approve line item 17.1, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Oh, Mr.

Chair.

Uh um, member McCampbell.

Thank you.

Uh request a waiver on 17.1.

Uh quick question uh for clarity.

Uh, just to make sure uh if anyone can answer this question, does line item uh 17.1 include funding for Lee Plaza?

I thought I saw that earlier and I had a challenge with that, but and I was also told it was not a part of that particular item.

It's not through the chair, yes.

Through the chair, this is for GDYT and Mount Elliott only, correct?

Correct.

All right, that's what I thought, but I just see it in my notes.

I just had to ask the question.

Thank you so much.

Discussion uh with further discussion, member Benson.

All right, through yourself to the administration or to the chair, uh looking at reassigned funds from ACE arts alleys as well as alley infrastructure projects that tolls around half a million dollars.

What will happen to any outstanding work on arts alleys moving forward?

I'm sorry, before we go forward, there is a motion on the floor.

Member McCampbell, would you um uh withdraw that motion to allow for this discussion to take place so that we're not uh being improper?

Absolutely.

I'll withdraw the motion.

Thank you so much.

Member Benson, the floor again remain yours.

All right, thank you.

Do I need to repeat the question, please?

All right.

Um looking at 17.1 at the reassignment of funds, arts alleys, ace arts alleys, as well as alley infrastructure projects totaling about half a million dollars.

What is the future of any unimproved arts alley projects or incomplete?

Ms.

Sullivan through the chair.

Um, can we please promote Terry Daniels?

We will promote Mr.

Daniels.

All right, she needs to raise her hand because we don't have her information in our system here.

Can you communicate to the raiser hand?

All right, looks like we are moving.

Good morning.

Good morning.

All right, Miss Daniels, do you need the question uh repeated?

Yes, good morning.

Uh Terry Daniels, director, office of development and grants.

Um, the question about uh ace arts alley and alley infrastructure projects, those projects are there there is money to be reassigned from those project projects.

They are almost complete, so they will have surplus funds left discussion.

Member Benson, the floor remains yours, sir.

And so the expectation is that those projects will be complete and they will not be left outstanding, or there will be none that will be dropped from construction, correct?

Uh through the chair, there will be no projects that will be left undone.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

All right, that item has been approved.

Member McCampbell, I know you were requesting uh earlier a waiver.

The floor is yours, sir.

Oh restate.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh uh request no waiver on 17.1.

As a request for a waiver on line item 17.1 colleagues, any objections?

Seeing none, a waiver should be attached for the internal operations standing committee, madam clerk, under unfinished business.

Council member Whitfield Callaway in ordinance noting a roll call, line item 18.1.

Right.

Line item 18.1.

Member Callaway.

Mr.

Chair, before we move forward, can we have um if the inspector general is available?

Um anyone from his team can shed some light on why we have this ordinance in front of us today is actually coming through the inspector general's office.

So if um through the administration through yourself, Mr.

Chair, if someone could call the OIG to um provide some background information on this particular ordinance.

Okay, so the OIG is the independent agency, so we would have to actually make that phone call.

Oh so we can bring this item back at the end of the agenda as well.

Not yeah, okay.

Well, the law departments um would be fine because they were a part of the um the conversations with the OIG.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Uh good morning, attorney Anderson.

The floor is yours.

Please introduce yourself for the record.

Through the Chair Graham Anderson Law Department, good morning, everyone, or good afternoon now.

Um I do not want to step on the OIG's toes, but um, I'm happy to explain this ordinance.

Um, this is a fantastic piece of legislation uh sponsored by council member Callaway.

That uh the the real purpose of this is to tighten up and make sure some T's are crossed and some I's are dotted on the debarment ordinance process.

Um over the past few years of um uh moving through the different debarment uh uh processes.

We have identified a few places in the ordinance where we're not making major changes, just a little bit of a clarification here or tightening up um uh things here.

So for example, um uh the standard of review was never actually black letter law in the ordinance.

Where now, if you look at the bottom of page five, um the standard of review for a debarment decision, length of debarment or interim suspension shall be an abuse of discretion.

That's nothing new.

That's how we've always gone about this.

But as you guys have probably heard me say before, in law, we don't like to have any ambiguity.

We want things in black letter law that's nice and easy to follow for uh future attorneys or council members when going uh uh through uh whatever piece of legislation.

Um, another quick thing is for example, um, we had in the ordinance uh debarred, no debarred contractor is eligible to serve as a subcontractor for goods or services or materials supplied for any contract.

Makes sense, but what we noticed is we needed to add a little bit more to that.

So we also added no company that a debarred person owns or is an officer of or has direct or indirect financial benefit interest, shall do business with the city as a contractor or subcontractor.

So it's it's nothing revolutionary that we're doing here.

We're just doing things to tighten up and make things a little bit more valid.

That just really makes a lot of sense.

This is something that the OIG brought to the law department's attention, and this is exactly how government's supposed to work.

We uh move forward with the process and we notice a few things can be improved upon, and that's uh what we're doing here.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Callaway.

Yep.

Uh with further discussion.

Well, you have the floor, are you?

Yep.

Mr.

Chair, if there are other questions, yeah.

All right.

Um pro Timul.

Yeah, uh I like how you say this is fantastic legislation.

I and I totally agree with you, sir.

I didn't really like your language, and I appreciate you.

I appreciate uh member calloway to bring this forward showing that's fantastic legislation, whether I agree with it or not.

But um, I I was I just want to say really quickly uh a couple things.

One, does this deal with, and maybe this is a little bit stretched outside of the purview, but does this deal with the issue of um the Leland in terms of the issue of debarment in terms of people who are bad actors like that in terms of them being debarred, or is that a separate piece of legislation?

And when you're talking about um ownership, does this also deal with um technological um things?

So for instance, the uh prediction market like poly market or um calci, you know, where you have people making bets in terms of the things that are happening within the city, those people cannot do business with the city either.

Or it was that hard way to track that through through the chair, though, those are fantastic questions, council member young, and that goes a little beyond the scope of this.

This ordinance is focused solely on the department process of the OIG.

One recent example of this would have been uh the Denman situation, if you recall that that's um exactly what we were dealing with here, where we noticed the contractor was doing something improper, the OIG had an investigation, and uh well their investigation was going on, they were suspended from doing any further business with the city.

Okay, and that's what we're tightening up here.

Uh things like Leland House that goes a little beyond the scope of this.

Uh obviously, of course, uh if we identify something uh legislatively that we can make things go smoother and better in that situation, we're happy to uh jump on top of that, but that goes a little beyond the scope of what we're dealing with here.

No, no, I appreciate that because the good because I would just wonder when I saw the word debarment, and I know that you're talking about officers of people doing business.

I just want to make sure that that's something I didn't know, you know, we could amend it, you know, you know, with it if he covered that at all.

I just feel that's something that's so important that we could be able to do.

And I also want to make sure that in terms of the issues of people who are in doing who are in the city who are making bets about certain things that are going on in the city.

You hear me, I feel that that would be improper as well, especially if they have a you know, if they're working within the city, they have connections within the city, they know what's going on, making bets and profiting from that.

I thought that would be a different issue.

So those are different concerns.

I just want to make sure that was clear.

But this doesn't address that.

So no, but the thing is I bring any clarity to that.

Um something like polymarketing in the future.

I'd be happy to work with your office about drawing something up because that obviously needs to be properly uh regulated.

So I think that's probably something I probably work with you on.

So we can have some fantastic legislation as well.

All right, I would love that pro top.

Thank you, uh Mr.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Uh President.

And uh thank you, uh Member Calloway.

Thank you.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and thank you, Mr.

Anderson.

Um, I move to take from the table an ordinance, a proposed.

Okay, I'm reading what's in front of me.

I'm gonna read exactly what's here.

I move to take from the table an ordinance a proposed this ordinance amends chapter 17 of the 2019 Detroit City Code Finance Article 5 Purchases and Supplies Division 10 debarment by amending section 17-5-354, effect of debarment order, section 17-5-357, initiation of proceedings, section 17-5-360, interim suspension, section 17-5-361, appeal, section five, section 17-5-362, period of debarment, section 17-5-363, application of remedies, and adding section 17-5-367, administrative rules and procedures to clarify the effect of a department against an individual, provide notice of established and approved rules for the conduct of administrative and appeals hearings to contractors and stakeholders, pursue compliance with charter provisions that require cooperation with OIG investigations and proceedings and permit debarment commensurate with the seriousness of civil offenses that speak to a contractor's professional responsibility, business honesty, and integrity laid on the table, and it does have a date of March the 10th, 2026.

Thank you so much.

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

Councilmember Cowan.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I move the ordinance be placed on the order of third reading and considered read.

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

I move the ordinance to pass as submitted.

There being a roll call required.

Chair.

Council President Pro Tim Young.

Just stepped away.

Council President James Tate.

Yes.

Councilmember Benson.

Yes.

Council Member McCampbell.

Yes.

Councilmember Miller.

Yes.

Councilmember Johnson?

Yes.

Councilmember Santiago Romero.

Councilmember Waters.

Yes.

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway.

Yes.

That motion passes, Mr.

President.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

The ordinance is approved.

Councilmember Callaway.

Well, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I move the title to the ordinance be confirmed.

No objections.

That action will be member miller.

If you can please uh mute your zone.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you so much.

Member Callaway.

Mr.

Chair, request a waiver.

There's a request for a waiver, uh, colleagues on line item 18.1.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Uh under unfinished business, madam clerk.

Council member Whitfield Callaway in ordinance not in a roll call.

Line item 18.2.

Line item 18.2 member calloway.

Um, Mr.

Chair, this is an ordinance um that was um presented to um presented by um member Colmine Young the second.

So it should be in his name.

I can read it, but this is um from Colmine A Young the second.

Yes, ma'am.

You may proceed.

Proceed.

Okay.

Yes, please.

Thank you, sir.

I move to take from the table the ordinance a proposed to amend chapter 45 of the 2019 Detroit City Code Telecommunications, Article 3, Franchises Division 2, uniform video service local franchise agreements of the 2019 Detroit City Code by adding sections 45-3-24, approval of uniform video service local franchise to direct TV LLC to provide for a new 10-year agreement period to start October the 15th, 2025 until October the 14th, 2035, laid on the table February 17th, 2026.

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

Councilmember Callaway.

Mr.

Chair, the I move the ordinance be placed on the order of third reading and considered read.

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

Member Callaway.

I move the ordinance be passed as submitted.

There being a roll call, Madam Clerk.

Council President Tate.

Yes.

Councilmember Vincent.

Yes.

Councilmember McCampbell.

Yes.

Councilmember Miller.

Yes.

Councilmember Johnson.

Yes.

Councilmember Santiago Romero.

Councilmember Waters.

Yes.

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway.

Yes.

Council President Pro Tim Young.

Seven years.

That motion passes, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

The ordinance is approved, Madam Clerk.

I'm sorry, Member Callaway.

I move the orders be passed as submitted.

Already said that.

Yes, ma'am.

I move the title to the ordinance be confirmed.

Thank you so much.

Hearing are you about throwing me off like a pump?

Mr.

Chair.

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

And Madam Clerk, if you can again note that that uh item is in the name of uh pro tem young.

Clerk will note that, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Mr.

Chair, um, like to request a waiver, sir.

Colleagues, there's a request for a waiver on line item 18.2.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

From the mayor's office, madam clerk.

Council member withfield Callaway, three resolutions.

Noting that line item 18.3 was postponed from last week.

Formal session.

Member Callaway.

Um, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, I um don't know if there's any discussion that we need to have here, but I'm asking I'd like to move that this go back to um internal operations standing committee.

Callaway, I think you are you referring to line item 18.3.

Yes, for um appointing Catherine Richardson to the tennis rights commission.

All right, colleagues.

There's a motion to uh send line item 18.3 back to committee.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

We still have 18.4 and 18.5.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, this 18.4 is the appointment of Fred Durhall the third to the downtown development authority, effective immediately and ending on May the 8th, 2030.

Mr.

Chair, motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 18.4, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Waiver, uh, Mr.

Chair.

Uh request for a waiver on line item 18.4.

Any objections, colleagues?

Seeing none, a waiver should be attached.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Line item 18.5 is the appointment of Stacey Clayton to the Board of Ethics effective immediately and ending May the 8th, 2031.

Ms.

Request, uh there's a motion, excuse me, for approval line item 18.5.

Colleagues, any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Request a waiver, Mr.

Chair.

The request for a waiver on line item 18.5, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, a waiver should be attached.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

From the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Madam Clerk.

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway, a resolution.

Line item 18.6, contract number 6005564-A2.

100% city funding.

Amendment two to extend time for one year and increase funds for legal services to support the city's multifamily affordable housing development program.

Contractor, Buntso Long PC, total contract amount, 350,000.

That's for law.

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway resolution.

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

There's a motion to approve line item 18.6.

Colleagues, any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

From the law department, Madam Clerk.

Council Member Whitfield Callaway, 13 resolutions, line items 18.7 through 18.19.

Line items 18.7 through 18.19.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to approve.

These are various um requests for legal representation and indemnification and settlement of lawsuits.

It's a motion to approve line items 18.7 through 18.19, colleagues.

Any objections?

Objection accountable to 18.12.

Are there any further colleagues?

See none.

Line items 18.7 through 18.9 shall be approved.

From the human resources classification and compensation compensation division, madam clerk.

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway, a resolution line item 18.20.

Line item 18.20, Member Callaway.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

This is just an official compensation schedule to include the new emergency medical technician and paramedic 24 hour classifications and pay ranges.

Most motions to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 18.20.

Colleagues, any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

For the planning and economic development standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Madam Clerk.

Council Member Johnson, two resolutions.

Line items 19.1 and 19.2.

Contract number 6005583-A2, 70% offer, 30% CDBG funding.

Amendment 2 to update terms and conditions for the incentive portal system.

Doing business as neighborly software.

Total contract amount, 2 million 180,000.

That's for housing and revitalization.

Contract number 6004587-A6, 100% ARPA funding.

Amendment 6 to provide and extension of time and increase of funds for youth wages and program support for the Growth Detroit Youth Talent Program, the GDYT Contractor Detroit Employment Solutions Corporation.

Total contract amount 31 million 448,000.

That's for housing and revitalization.

Council member Johnson, two resolutions.

Thank you.

Member Johnson, line items 19.1 and 19.2.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move for approval.

As a motion to approve line items 19.1 and 19.2, colleagues, any objections.

That action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair, I'd like to request a waiver on line item 19.2.

It's a request for a waiver on line item 19.2, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, waiver should be attached.

For the planning and economic development standing committee from the Detroit Brownfield Redevelopment Authority, Madam Clerk.

Council Member Johnson and resolution line item 19.3.

Line item 19.3, Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move for approval.

This is to approve the Brownfield plan for the Billinghurst Department's redevelopment project.

Alex is a motion to approve line item 19.3.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

For the planning and economic development standing committee for excuse me from the planning and development department, Madam Clerk.

Council Member Johnson six resolutions.

Line items 19.4 through 19.9.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move for approval.

These are various uh property sales and transfers.

There's a motion for approval.

Line items 19.4 through 19.9 colleagues.

Any objection?

Discussion, Mr.

Chair.

With discussion, member Callaway.

Um, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, is there anyone on from I guess planning and development department?

I just had questions about line item 19.4.

I don't ever remember seeing um reading or seeing a property sale by restrictive covenant, and I kind of want to a little bit information about the restrictive covenant being a part of this land.

Um, this property purchase by Michigan State University.

Um Ms.

Sullivan, who do you have for us?

Through the chair, we have John Trunk.

Right.

We will promote Mr.

Trong, please.

Mr.

Trung, good mor.

Good afternoon.

Thank you for being here.

Good afternoon.

Yes, this is John Tron for the Housing Revitalization Department, the real estate division.

Uh, through the chair, could I have uh council member callaway please repeat the question?

We kind of go through that blackout period when we get elevated.

No problem, member Callaway.

Yes, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Trong.

Um, just the this property sell by restrictive covenant.

I've not seen that before since I've been on the council.

And um, what is the restrictive covenant um as a part of this um land purchase and what is this um purchase about and what is the Michigan State University going to do with this property?

Is there a structure there?

Is it a house?

Is it a commercial property?

Um, is it in a neighborhood?

I just you know if if if I if I may before you you jump in, uh Mr.

Trong.

So this is located in district one and it's been there for quite some time.

It's on the grounds of a former school.

Uh and they have done a tremendous job, I must say, uh, over the years in rehabbing that location of being a uh steward uh of that particular land for the community.

Uh and many members of the community have learned uh and have gained uh insight into agricultural uh opportunities uh as a result of that institution at the uh location right there on Lam Fear.

So just wanted to add that in for those who may not be familiar with the work that they do.

Uh, but Mr.

Trong, if you could talk about that uh restrictive covenant, that is something that we don't see very often on these items.

Yes, as uh city council president uh Tate did mention this is for the Detroit Partnership for Food Learning and Innovation.

They've been there since under a lease uh since 2017.

It is a restrictive covenant to ensure that um they continue to use the land for uh the food learning and innovation center.

Uh they have future plans to uh you know add uh classroom office space as well as uh a lab space.

I am joined by um the director of the Detroit uh Partnership for Food Learning Innovation Center, Mr.

Naeem Edwards.

Uh, if uh if Council Mama Calloway has additional questions if he can be promoted as well.

Through the chair.

I don't have any other questions.

I think this is um I just was concerned about the restrictive covenant, but I understand it now, and I'm hoping Michigan State University will look at um you know, uh expanding the program across the city um outside of district one, but this is amazing.

Um I I appreciate the background information.

We're about to have five schools closed July the first.

We just got a fifth one, Thurgood Marshall, right there in my district um at the corner of the lodge and um Linwood, and that's about to close.

So hopefully, you know, Michigan State, U of M and all, you know, U of D, Wayne State can take a look at reforming, rehab, not rehabbing, but converting some of these schools and to um into some of these um lab spaces and innovative innovation centers, so these buildings will not be um remain vacant and then vandalized and then have to be demolished by the city.

They're still operating, but um, you know, maybe I need to reach out to Michigan State University or through your office.

Um, Mr.

Chair, because I think that these five schools that these four schools that are about to be closed should be considered for these types of programs.

So they're just not going to be sitting there, then they fall into disrepair, and then we demolish them at the city's expense.

Yes, ma'am.

So thank you so much, Mr.

Chair, and thank you, Mr.

Trong.

Thank you.

Is there this further?

But on line 19.7.

Okay, member Benson.

Uh line of 19.7.

Uh, just wanted to say uh thank you to the administration.

This is in the third district solar farm footprint, and what you have is a resident who currently lives in the third district and who is taking advantage of the purchase of her property by the city of Detroit and staying in the third district.

And so this is a huge um improvement in quality of life for her into a home.

She's staying in her community next to her friends and families, and is helping the city generate green energy within our borders.

Thank you.

Thank you.

In addition, Mr.

Chair, I also want to say last year the Green Task Force went on its annual bike ride to the Michigan State facility and had the opportunity to eat off the vines from those great blackberries, excuse me, raspberries that they have there.

And so just really exciting to see that this is uh moving forward and we'll continue to support um as a city.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Colleagues, any further?

Um uh Pro Tim.

Mr.

Chair, Mr.

President.

I just want to say Michigan State is an expert institution in agriculture and animal husbandry.

We all know that we passed the farm ordinance.

So that my father, the honorable cobra scene was very passionate about.

I look forward to this great partnership.

I've seen this is right in the neighborhood as well.

So this is a really good operation.

Um, we have about a over 40 percent food insecurity rate in the city of Detroit, but that's down from 69 percent.

So the biggest room in the world is room for improvement.

So I think that this is something that's gonna add to that, build off that infrastructure long term.

So I think I now listen.

I think the question about restrictive covenants is legitimate question.

You know more about that and how that works.

I definitely just want to say that I support this and I support what Michigan State is doing.

So thank you, Mr.

Brown.

Thank you.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair, I'd like to request a waiver on line items 19.4, 19.5, and 19.7.4, 19.5 and 19.7, Member Johnson.

Yes.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none.

Waivers should be attached.

For the public health and safety standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Madam Clerk.

Council Member McCampbell for resolutions.

Note event line item 20.1 was postponed from last week's formal session.

And line item 20.2 was reported out of public health and safety standing committee without recommendation.

Contract number 6006589-A1.

100% blight funding.

Amendment one to provide an increase of funds for environmental due diligence.

Contractor, the Manic and Smith Group Incorporated, total contract amount, 4,500,000.

That's for construction and demolition.

Contract number 3092719, 100% blight funding to provide field removal and replacement of 5562, Pennsylvania Contractor, DMC Consultants Incorporated.

Total contract amount, $51,842.

That's for construction and demolition.

Contract number 6007252, 100% city funding to provide environmental consulting services.

Contract that Tetra Tech total contract amount 400,000.

That's for BC and contract number 3090358, 100% blight funding to provide an emergency commercial demolition and additional backfield and finesse services of 14501 each Jefferson contractor in a city contracting total contract amount 63, 175.72 cents.

That's for construction and demolition.

Council member McCampbell, four resolutions.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move to approval discussion.

There's a motion to approve uh those line items with discussion.

Uh member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So um on 20.1.

I know I have brought this up.

I know this was postponed from last week.

Um I express reservations about it because we had not had a full conversation about um the contaminated dirt.

Uh I understand the need for the testing and to get further information on what and that's the purpose of this contract.

Uh so I just wanted to add to that if we could hear from the law department.

Um, but I will also say for 20.2.

Um, I am I am opposed to 20.2 because this is the beginning of the remediation.

Um, but again, we don't have that full picture.

If there is multiple structures or multiple lots that would be doing this, um would rather see this as a comprehensive plan instead of one-off.

So just want to name that, but would love to hear from the law department if possible.

Yeah, thank you so much, member McCampbell.

I had the same question when I spoke with the law department as well.

We had hoped that we would have a close session in advance of the request to uh further approve these contracts and uh a little bit extra has been added on to uh kind of move this one forward.

Um I'm still certainly looking for that closed session to understand the totality as my colleague just mentioned.

Um but uh attorney Anderson, the floor is yours.

The chair Graham Anderson Law Department, I believe uh demolition should be as available as well to potentially answer uh any relevant questions on there and um in regard to the closed session.

That's something that I am happy to uh facilitate uh to move forward with this body because I think there has would be extreme value in it, as there's been a lot of conversations with law individually with one office or another office, but to have everyone collectively together to hear um the same message and to be able to have questions collectively, I think would bring a lot of value to this body and um to the administration as a whole on this very sensitive matter.

I believe that that's something that we can have set up uh the if not next week, probably not next week, because I know we're going to Mackinac, not next well, probably not me.

We'll see if corporation council will let me go join you guys as well.

Um, but um uh the uh I I know that time would be tight, so maybe in two weeks we could have a closed session regarding um uh the entire uh matter that uh inspired the need for this contractor and for these services.

I would uh highly encourage this body to still move forward with this contract at this time.

Um but I'm always happy to support the will of this body, and I'm available to answer any additional questions at this time.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member McCampbell.

The floor remains yours, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, attorney Anderson.

Um just the is there any mechanism that we have to make from this table for the closed session?

Yeah, so I thought that was already in motion because we talked about the fact that we were uh looking for a opinion uh that would allow for the uh the triggering of a closed session, and I have not received anything uh and I don't believe any of my colleagues either.

So that leaves us pretty much in the same space that we were last week.

Well, through through the chair, if I may, there was uh document distributed to um all offices last evening.

However, that was a little more targeted specifically to the questions of this particular contract.

If we were to have a closed session, and that being the document of privilege and confidentiality, I believe there would be some frustration because we would not hit all the topics of uh Gionga.

It would be really just kind of tailored to this contract, and I know there's obviously a lot of uh uh different topics that spurn from this.

This contract included.

Um I've spoken with member McCampbell's office and Santiago Ramiro's office about the need for uh a more broad uh questions directed to the law department so we can provide that privileged and confidential information, which I believe would be the most successful use of the closed session opportunity.

I deeply apologize, council president.

If some wires were crossed and there was not the proper meeting of the mind last week, um I I take all blame on that.

Uh but I I'm definitely not opposed to a closed session.

The law department's not opposed to the closed session.

I know demo's not opposed to a closed session.

Um we we would just love to be able to move forward with this contract today.

Um, because not only um does this contract provide um valuable ammunition for us when we would pursue uh Gionga in future litigation, but this is also um health and safety.

This is um uh providing testing to the dirt so we can identify uh but what is uh potentially hazardous to the community.

So that this is uh a multi-prong value to this contract, and we would encourage that this contract extension is uh granted.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh member McCampbell.

Because I still uh I do want to provide some more comments, but I'll answer it out just yet, please.

Absolutely.

Uh uh just the last thing I'll say for uh attorney Anderson, I didn't receive the document last evening.

I might have been lost, but um, so if I could get that, that'd be great.

I think he's referring to the question to the responses to the questions that I submitted um regarding Matic.

Um I believe that is what what you're referring to, correct?

Um, Mr.

Anderson?

Correct.

Okay, yeah.

So again, uh so the reason why I'm I'm I'm I'm extremely hesitant on these two contracts that you just mentioned, member McCampbell was because one, the whole goal for us to have the closed session was to ensure that these two contracts fit in to what this body believes is the next step for this process.

I also mentioned that uh, and I've said this in the past, the administration and law department as well, because you do approve uh these contracts uh before they come before us.

Um I have these contracts much longer than we do.

We get them and then it's hurry up.

We need you to approve them right now.

Uh we need time to deliberate.

And so the question I would have, I don't know if that's OCP or whoever.

Um, why why would it take so long for these contracts to come to us?

And now it's a rush on our deliberation and review analysis.

Um with it being stated as important as these contracts are to the overall um uh uh environment and ecosystem as a whole.

So why why why so long?

Uh we are we just asked for information to host or hold a closed session, which we have not been able to have at this moment.

And that was just last week we discussed that.

Through the chair, that that's a fantastic question, and I know that's something that has caused very reasonable frustration for this body.

It's something I've seen my entire time that I've been here that you guys do get contracts at the last minute, and then it's you know the sky is falling if we don't approve this and you guys feel like you're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

And that's certainly not the position I want to put you guys in.

And I cannot speak for the entire administration on that.

If I could, I would need a huge raise um to be able to do that.

Um but until then um I would have to defer to um uh the administration and uh potentially OCP about the timeline.

Um I I can't speak for why it was received at this time.

I I do not have any control personally about when this appeared at this body.

Um it was brought to my attention not long before yours, and I'm just um doing what I can to communicate the value and the need of this contract.

You are the messenger.

But we do have construction and demolition on line uh before us now.

Uh maybe you all can provide us additional information uh to the question that's been posed.

Clearly.

We also have uh Sandra Eustaw.

And you're on a report her over as well, but I know that you all will not be able to discuss the uh law department not providing us with the written opinion, um, but shed some light on the urgency of these contracts being approved today, as opposed to when we're allowed or able to actually have a closed session to understand the totality of where we're going because this is a lot of money for a contract, and we want to make sure that once we approve, at least I do, and I believe my colleagues do as well.

We want to make sure we're doing as close to the right thing as possible.

Yeah, through the chair, I can speak first.

Tim Pelazola, director of the construction and demolition department, and then I can uh hand the uh the baton over to uh my counterpart, CPO Stahl.

Uh thank you for the time and deliberation today.

I do sincerely appreciate it.

And we are, as uh Attorney Anderson had mentioned more than uh amenable to uh a closed session conversation.

Uh I will say that our desire is for the work to continue.

We want to investigate these sites as quickly and efficiently and effectively as possible.

Manic and Smith, when this work started, provided us the department with the most competitive pricing to do the site-by-site analysis.

And in the almost year that we have been working on this project, uh, they have not uh changed any of their pricing.

So they've been uh continue to be the most competitive and uh knowledgeable vendor.

And as attorney Anderson said, uh we want to ensure that there is consistency in the analytical work that is being done, and we would uh sincerely appreciate the council's uh support to that end.

I don't think you still talk about the urgency of it because I don't uh so I'll tell you this.

I I agree with what you just say.

I think it makes sense.

It makes sense that we keep the same uh contract if that is an opportunity for us to uh preserve some of those funds, those taxpayer dollars, and and not go above and beyond what is required in terms of the dollar amount, but what we also want to do is understand the totality of what we're looking at and not piecemeal, that is important on this side of the fence, is what we've been asking.

So, again, if there's a contract right now that's on the that that's being asked to be extended, right?

Uh so it sounds like there's already some some funds on that particular contract, the Manic and Smith contract.

Speaks again to the urgency of today as opposed to when we have an opportunity to have a closed session to understand all the elements of what we're working on and not piecemeal, please.

Well, and through the chair.

So the the funds that are available are are not available because the the work that they have done is almost essentially exhausted those available funds.

So to keep uh paying Manic for the work that they're performing, we would need the amendment to uh to pay them for that work.

Okay, so I'll go back to my original question.

Why so long?

Why did it take so long to get to us?

Uh noting that the contract was winding down, the funds were winding down as well, and it's a very important, as you stated, contract for us to approve.

And maybe that is for director you stall.

I'm not sure that's more appropriate for you.

It seems like it would be.

Um through the chair, thank you.

Um I completely understand um council's um desire to be responsible and um closely examine uh contracts, especially of high dollar amounts.

Uh we did the same.

Um there was uh we we actually started with a higher dollar amount and reviewed and thought about what could be um um the right uh right level.

Um so it it did go through rounds of review and discussion internally as well.

I know that the department and government affairs did um reach out to council offices to um give uh information about the need for this council uh contract amendment um in advance.

Um I know that uh we have I think I agree definitely the sequential nature of um you know the internal review in the administration and then presenting to council does cause um you know these uh unwanted unintentional time pressures on city council.

I do recognize that like to see how we can um get ahead of those.

You know, we we've made all kinds of efforts to try to be in front of these things, and then and yet, you know, sometimes it does happen to create a time crunch.

And so I do apologize for that.

So when was the decision made to uh move forward on the manic contract just for public notice and for us to understand better as well from the administration so uh the amendment has been in process since um early in the beginning of the year, um, as the uh um as the uh information provided to the department about the need for these services um escalated quickly, and so um we tried to move quickly and also do our own due diligence at the same time.

So the contract amendment was with OCP for a few months before it could be submitted to council with the final amounts requested.

Okay, colleagues, any further on those line items?

Um member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um I'm hoping we can have all of these discussions in closed session and as you indicated earlier, Mr.

Chair, and not piecemeal the conversations.

I'd like to connect all the dots in one sitting and to have these conversations to have occurred earlier in the year, and we're just getting them now.

We're almost into June, and then we're expected to make a 3.5 million decision in 15 minutes.

I am personally uncomfortable with.

I would rather have all of these conversations if possible in closed session and not as you said, sir, piecemeal it or have a fragmented conversations, and we have to go back in our respective offices and connect all the dots.

So I just rather have a complete conversation in closed session.

And I'm finding out now that Gayanga, I think is that how you pronounce it, is out of business.

They've closed their offices permanently, and now they're suing the city.

So there's lots of conversations that we probably need to have behind closed doors and not be expected in 15 minutes to to decide on a 3.5 million dollar contract.

I'd like to know more about where that $3.5 million is gonna go.

Because this contract now um originally, Mr.

Chair, this is this will be the first of many, I assume, amendments.

This is amendment number one.

This contract was supposed to last through 2027, but because of all these circumstances is changing and increasing.

I want to know what the 3.5 million dollars is based on.

I want to itemized list of what this $3.5 million is gonna pay for.

This is like an open-ended contract, but I prefer, Mr.

Chair, that we do it in closed session as you as you've indicated.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and I'm referring to line item 20.2 naturally because it is in district four.

Um, we have obviously identified that there is some soil that needs to be removed and replaced.

And I am asking my colleagues if we can move on line item 20.2 to address that particular um issue.

I know that we're talking about looking at all of the sites, um, testing and remediation are two different things.

Um, so I'm not sure where the total the bulk funding is going to come from for remediation, but um this is blight funding, and I am asking that we proceed with 20.2 so we can have that addressed.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Mr.

Chair, uh member Kellogg.

I was um only speaking to line item 20.1.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Uh so line item 20.2.

My understanding that it is not connected to line item 20.1 through the chair, that's my understanding, but I would refer to demo.

Right.

Uh someone from demo and construction through the chair.

That is actually incorrect.

They are they are related.

That the removal and replacement at the location on 20.2 is a result of the sampling and analysis that was done and is funded for uh through the contract that Mannequin Smith has all right.

Colleagues, any further uh member calloway, Mr.

Chair.

Um I don't know if it's appropriate to make it now.

I guess I'll hear from you or the parliamentary, but I move to to move line item 20.1 to close session, and I don't know if that's going to impact 20.2 since we just found out it's a part of it, Mr.

Chair, but that would be my motion, sir, for 20.1 for sure to have a complete conversation in closed session, sir.

Thank you so much.

So for us to to to do that, there still needs to be that uh written opinion from the law department that would trigger that closed session.

So we're which we requested last week, have not received it yet.

Um so we would end up essentially postponing that line item for a week.

Um, and if trying to figure out how to do it next week is going to be challenging as well, um, but we would have to postpone this item.

Uh certainly 20.1 be open personally to 20.2, noting that there is a concern is right before us, and uh a colleague has made that plea, uh, understanding what the community has been requesting over in our area and always like reciprocity as well.

Um so um when will we be able to have that that that written opinion?

Through the chair, we will absolutely be able to have that written opinion before next week.

However, as I said, I don't think logistically it'll be realistic to have that closed session occur next week.

So it'd likely be the following week after that that we would have the closed session.

Okay, and I would defer to demo of how problematic that that would be construction demo just throwing it back at you one more time through the chair.

That that's not a problem for us, but we'll make it happen at the body's convenience.

All right, thank you so much.

And so member Callaway was or instead of member Callaway did another member McCampbell had some concerns about that one as well, and Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh we'll motivate postponed 20.1 for um one week before we do that.

I agree.

Yep, thank you, uh Dr.

Powers.

One of the things, and we had talked about this uh to send this item back to committee um to allow for us to have.

I mean, because ultimately we're not going to be able to approve it next week.

Uh if we are and sticking to the guns and saying we need a close session first.

Um, and then we'll just be watching repeating the same thing every week.

Um, and that will give the committee opportunity to allow us to have this off the formal agenda and uh have the work done in uh closed session and then brought back to this body.

So, Ms.

Thank you, Mr.

McCairner.

Thank you.

Um, so I'll withdraw that motion and make a motion to send 20.1 back to committee.

There's a motion to send line item 20.1 back to committee.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh, member McCambo, I believe that uh 20.1 through 20.4 were all moved, correct?

Yes.

All right, colleagues.

We still have 20.2 through 20.4.

Um have been moved for approval.

Are there any objections?

Mr.

Chair.

Uh member McCampbell.

Objection on 20.2.

There's an objection, uh, Madam Clerk.

So note, Mr.

President.

Are there any further?

Um, objection for council member Calloway on 20.2.

Clinical so note, Mr.

President.

Are there any further madam clerk?

What is the uh Mr.

President?

That's five years, that motion passes.

All right, thank you.

So line items 20.1 through 20.4 shall be excuse me, 20.2 through 20.4 shall be approved.

Discussion, Mr.

Chair.

With discussion, member Johnson.

Um, through you to the administration line item 20.3.

I believe during committee, it was noted that this is supposed to be grant funding, not city funding.

I'm not sure if Ms.

Sullivan or someone can share if a correction order was sent.

Ms.

Sullivan through the chair, we have Christopher Jones and Crystal Rogers.

We're gonna promote them.

Seems like a simple question.

Was there?

Was a correction memo sent.

Rogers, thank you for joining us.

Please introduce yourself for the record.

And do you need this question restated?

Uh good afternoon, Crystal Rogers, General Manager for Environmental Affairs, Building Safety Engineering and Environmental Department.

This uh contract is 100% grant funded.

So that's why we were asking for the correction letter.

That's why I didn't think you would be the individual.

No, here's Chris.

Jones.

Hey, good afternoon.

Uh Chris Jones, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Uh we have not received the uh correction uh for the uh funding for line item 20.3 uh I was just made aware of that.

You will have the correction letter um today.

Can you have it by the end of this meeting?

It sounds like it's not much, it's just that one piece of language that way we can have a session.

All right, uh is there a motion to postpone line item 20.3 until the end of the agenda motion seeing objections, we shall uh postpone line item 20.3 until the end of the agenda we did.

Yep, we actually we absolutely did.

Thank you, uh Dr.

Powers.

You know, I earn this gray here.

I earned it.

Um so we did approve already, colleagues line items 20.2 through 20.4.

Um noting that we had questions about line item 20.3 uh and we did change the rules, which allow us to um uh go back on that particular vote for line item 20.3.

Is there a motion to reconsider the vote for line item 20.3?

Motion to reconsider.

There's a motion to reconsider line item 20.3, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Is there a motion for line item 20.3?

Motion motion to postpone.

There's a motion to postpone line item 20.3 until the end of the agenda.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Thank you so much.

I know.

Right.

Moving on to line item 20 scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.

All right, from uh the department of public works, city engineering division, madam clerk.

Council member McCampbell, seven resolutions, line items 20.5 through 20.11.

Um member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to approve these are various encroachments and also a request for banners.

All right, colleagues, there's a motion for approval for line items 20.5 through 20.11.

Are there any objections?

Discussion with discussion, member Callaway.

Um I um move to I'd like to postpone um line item 20.9.

That's in district two.

I have um some questions about this location.

So um I would ask that this be postponed for a week.

Like this is a request for a postponement for one week for line item 20.9.

Are there any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Any further discussion, colleagues?

There's a request for a uh there's a motion, excuse me, for approval for line items 20.5 through 20.11, minus line item 20.9.

Any further discussion?

Any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

From the there's a request to speak before the Detroit City Council, Madam Clerk.

Council Member McCampbell, a resolution line item 21.1.

Line item 21.1.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you.

Mr.

Chair motion to refer to OPD for analysis.

There's a motion to uh send line item 21.1 to LPD for analysis and report back.

Any objection?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh member Johnson.

I'd like to request the waiver on line item 20.10.

Request for a waiver, colleagues on line item 20.10.

Any objections?

Seeing none, a waiver should be attached.

We'll now move to the new business portion of the agenda from the office of commission.

Mr.

President.

Uh yes, ma'am.

Okay, before we continue, so clarify um to clarify the previous motion for line item 21.1.

Um, it was motion to refer it to LPD for analysis.

Is it also being postponed for one week to come back through the formal session agenda?

Um yes, I think we do have to do that.

Yes.

Thank you for that.

Catch.

Colleagues, was there a motion to postpone the vote for line item 21.1 for one week?

Motion to postpone.

It's point of uh with discussion of information and why are we why postpone for the analysis um and it stays here because it's no committee that it's going to is going to help.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for postponement for one week for line out of 21.1.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you again, madam clerk.

We will now move to the new business portion of the agenda from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Council Member McCampbell, eight resolutions.

And line items 22.5 and 22.6 and 22.8 were reported out of the committee without recommendation.

Contract number 600741, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for the city of Detroit.

Contractor Superior Air Ground Ambulance Service Incorporated.

Total contract amount 1 million 770,615 dollars.

That's for fire.

Contract number 600737, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for city of Detroit.

Contractor Hart EMS Medical Services PLLC.

Total contract amount 1,506,540 and 42 cents.

That's fire.

Contract number 600727, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for the city of Detroit.

Contractor America Pro EMS of Michigan LLC.

Total contract amount 1 million 682, 445 dollars and 60 cents.

That's for fire.

Contract number 6007807, 100% capital funding for construction services for DPD Oakman Boulevard Renovation.

Contractor Gandal Incorporated.

Total contract amount 2 million 4,800.

That's construction and demolition.

Contract number 6007831, 100% capital bond funding for citywide firehouse renovations.

Contract up W3 Construction Company.

Total contract amount 3 million 861 dollars, 640 and 38 cent.

Construction and demolition.

Contract number 6006215-A3, 82% ARPA, 18% UTGO funding.

Amendment three to provide an extension of time and to provide additional contract language for construction services for DFD Annex additions at three existing fire stations.

Contractor, major contracting group, total contract amount six million four hundred one thousand, eight hundred fifteen dollars and sixty-two cent.

Construction and demolition, contract number six zero zero six five zero two-a two, one hundred percent ARPA funding, amendment two to provide an extension of time and increase of funds only for design bill service for the design engineering and construction renovation to the Mount Elliott Senior Community Center for the neighboring community contractor DMC consultants incorporated total contract amount three million nine hundred forty-three thousand six hundred eighty-seven dollars.

Construction and demolition and contract number six zero zero seven eight two eight, one hundred percent major street funding to provide the manufacture and delivery of fitness aggregate paving mixtures, contractor ajax paving industries incorporated, total contract amount six million eight hundred forty thousand.

That's for public works.

House of Member McCampbell, seven resolutions.

Member McCampbell line items 22.1 through 20.

Sorry, uh through 22.3.

Uh member McKinley.

Mr.

President has eight contracts.

Right.

My apologies.

Member McCamber.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to approve the discussion.

The motion to approve the line items with discussion.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to give insight to the recommendations with uh the event to center for with all recommendations uh to new business.

So on 22.5 and 22.6.

Um, these were well, we were generally in support.

They were missing information that the department has um followed up with uh since then.

But we did have a conversation on committee of when contracts do come to us, they seem to have been missing some of the information.

Um, but in this particular it was the actual sites or what type of work does going on.

So I hope as we are moving forward that the administration will uh get us as a complete package as possible um on these items, and then for 22.8.

Um, this was referred out with our recommendation.

Um for myself, I'll speak for myself with concerns around um the number of Detroiters that would be on this project from Ajax.

Um, especially because there was a uh uh contractor that is based in Detroit, but even with the equalization credits came uh above, they were not the lowest bidder, but just wanted to note that for these line items.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you so much.

That is good insight because I had that question.

Thank you so much.

Colleagues, any further?

Yeah, Mr.

Chair.

Member Callaway.

On line item 22.7.

Um, not trying to hold up this project, but where was the 300,000 dollars hiding in ARPA dollars?

Um, I was told that they've been encumbered, earmarked, spoken for, but um, we've managed to find 300,000 dollars for this project.

Wonderful project.

Just want to know where is all of the opera dollars, have they all been spoken for?

Have they all been spent?

Because I'm finding that when there's a project that needs to be completed, we're finding ARPA dollars.

But when we're asking for Opera dollars as a body, there aren't any.

So where was this $300,000?

Is this $300,000 through the chair to whoever's listening?

Um being pulled from another project.

Thank you, Ms.

Chair.

Line item 22.7.

Thank you, Miss Sullivan.

You have anyone who can provide that information through the chair, we have Terry Daniels.

Terry Daniels, let's promote her.

She's journeying back on right now.

Um, if we could bring this back to the end.

Okay.

Uh colleagues, what line item is that again, Member Callaway?

22.7, Mr.

Chair.

2.7.

There's a motion.

Is there a motion to postpone until the end of the agenda line item 22.7?

Motion.

See no objections.

We shall postpone line item 22.7 to the end of the agenda.

Um, so I have a question.

I had uh I would like for a postponement on line item 22.5 for one week.

I know that is for repairs.

I believe wholeheartedly the repairs need to be done.

Um, but we did have some questions in the office, and uh we were told that there was a time crunch, and it would be a challenge for us if we were requesting a one-week bring back.

Is that accurate?

Because we're just looking for one week to ask the questions and get those questions responded to.

I'm sorry, member Miller.

I'll get to you next.

I just see your hand up there.

Uh that's the fire department.

We're looking for one week bring back.

Is that going to bring the world down?

Crash the world.

To the chair.

Uh, we don't have a problem coming back on one time.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Colleagues, can we get a uh motion to postpone the vote for one week on line out of 22.5, please.

See no objections.

We should postpone the vote for line item 22.5.

Um member Miller, followed by Pro Tend.

Yes, Mr.

Chair.

I have a question for the Fire Department.

I have continued to ask for their strategic plan going forward, but 22.1, 22.2, and 22.3 continue to ask for three-year contracts.

And I do not support, and I continue to wait for the strategic plan.

Um, and it has been uh at least I want to say probably at least three weeks.

And I was wondering what the status is on that.

Thank you for bringing back 22.5.

I was gonna mention that one as well.

Um, I would like to know um I should that's the number what are the three firehouses that they were working on and why wasn't the annex built in the beginning, or was this an add on for all firehouses?

Um, because it is for the ambulance portion, so I had questions about those around right.

Good afternoon, Council Charles Sims, executive uh fire commissioner.

So to respond to council member Miller's questions.

Um my understanding that uh information was sent to you this morning in regards to the strategic plan, three or five years strategic plan.

Okay, I am unaware of that uh email.

I will take on my staff, nonetheless.

I would not have had a chance to offer the opportunity to actually uh go over it or analyze it based on what I have in front of me today.

It's a bit tardy on uh session day.

So I will have to look at that.

I would ask that we continue to these be brought back as well.

Um I noticed that the um the um health and safety department, they had a detailed analysis of all the repairs that was going to be done.

That is a lot of repairs, and I was just wondering how did it accumulate to be so much at one time?

Like, what have you guys done in the last several years to have a list that looks like that?

So for me, I would like to uh postpone these items until I have an opportunity to share with my colleagues the strategic plan.

Thank you to the member miller.

Uh, if you can state which items you're 22.1, 22.2, 22.3.

You've already spoken.

Um you've already held back 22.5 and 22.6.

That's it.

I thought we did that vote.

We I didn't close that one up.

Oh okay.

Thank you.

First of all, colleagues would like to now close out my request for the postponement for line item 22.5.

Are there any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken before we go to the uh other items that member miller mentioned again.

22.1, 22.3, 22.2, and what were the other items, ma'am?

22.123 and six.

And 22.6.

There's a request for a postponement on those items, colleague.

Any objections?

Clerk, please note.

Mr.

President, um council president pro Tim Young.

Are you your objection to all three items?

All four items, yeah.

All four four.

We need to vote it out now.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

All right, colleagues.

There's a motion um to postpone the vote for line items 21.1, 22.2, 22.3, and 22.6.

One objection, that action shall be taken.

Here, uh, member calling.

Um we are still discussing um those line items like 22.8 because I'm an objection to line item 22.8.

So madam clerk, which items are still live right now, just so we can make sure.

22.8, Mr.

President.

22.8 is the only one live.

All right.

Well, seven and eight, twenty-two point seven and twenty two point eight.

And 22.4.

Four, seven, and eight.

Right.

Colleagues, there's a motion for approval for line items 22.4, 22.7, and 22.8.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh are there any objections with discussion?

Members discussion.

We um we said maybe five minutes ago that at the end of the agenda, per your request, we would bring back line item 22.7 because I had a question about the 300,000 dollars coming from ARPA, and there was no one available to well.

Yeah, but we're absolutely correct.

Yeah, so I had questions, and we said we would bring it back at the end of the agenda.

22.7.

So that leaves us just with 22.4 and 22.8.

We're absolutely through the chair.

Um, Miss Sullivan.

Oh, director Daniels is available for 22.7 if you wanted to still act on it now.

Let's bring her on.

Ms.

Daniels, uh, let's first get the uh question reasked by member Callaway.

Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, good afternoon.

Um, Miss Daniels.

It's line item 22.7.

Not trying to hold up the um the renovation of the Mount Elliott Senior Community Center.

Just have one question.

Where do we find the 300,000 dollars 100% in our funding?

And is there any more ARPA dollars available?

Uh through the chair to council member Callaway.

The money that we found for the Monelliot Senior Center is coming from two ARPA projects that have been completed and have surplus funding, and that would be scatter site home ownership and black to beauty corridors.

Those projects ended, and then we have the recenter moderniz project where we were able to save around 66,000 dollars on that project.

So that's where the 300,000 is coming from through the chair to thank you, Miss Daniels.

To uh, Miss Daniels.

Are there any other ARPRA dollars available that or may become available for some projects that have already been completed that this council should know about before a decision is made to reappropriate those funds?

So maybe we can have a say so.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair to Miss Um Daniels through the chair to council member Callaway.

We are continually scrubbing um projects for surplus funding, and we expect to have another round of reallocated dollars um in early June through the chair to you, Miss Um Daniels.

Can you please provide a list of the possible available ARPA dollars to this honorable body so we can take a part in the decision in terms of how those dollars will be spent?

Yes, we we will do that.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Miss Daniels.

Thank you.

And colleagues, I did neglect and I do apologize.

I I did want a one-week postponement on line item 22.4 as well.

UK there's a motion on the floor, colleagues, postponement for line item 22.4.

Any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

So that leaves us with line items 22.7 and 22.8, colleagues.

Are there any objections?

Objection, um, council member Callaway on line item 22.8.

Objection to 22.8, my cambill.

Are there any further?

See none.

Line items 22.7 and 22.8 shall be approved.

All right.

Now for the president's report on community referrals and other matters.

But before we do that, we have some walk on as we know.

Next week is Mackinaw policy conference.

We will have formal session on Tuesday, as we have done previously in the past, as tradition, and afterwards, we start heading towards Mackinac for those who are attending.

Um, we have the uh walk-ons for uh all of the committees next week.

That is budget audit and finance standing committee, internal operations standing committee, neighborhood and community services standing committee, and the planning and economic development standing committee.

New business vote.

Motion to walk on.

See, see no objections that action shall be taken.

And I believe that's the only walk on or do we have another?

Was that it?

Okay, all right, madam clerk.

Council member Whitfield Callaway for resolutions.

Right.

There's a resolution.

Uh member Callaway, that's the walk-on said we just moved on to new business.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve.

Any objections, colleagues?

See none, that action shall be taken.

For the president's report on standing committee referrals and other matters for the budget, finance and audit standing committee.

20 reports from various city departments.

20 reports would be referred to the budget, finance, and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee.

Mr.

President.

Yes, ma'am.

Would you like to continue with the referrals?

And we do need to go back to line item 20.3.

That item was brought back to the end.

Yes, ma'am.

Oh so we'll we'll go back to 20.3 afterwards.

Okay, thank you.

Yes, ma'am.

For the internal operations standing committee.

Three reports from various city departments.

Three reports will be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the neighborhood and community services standing committee.

Four reports from various city departments.

The four reports would be referred to the neighborhood and community services standing committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

Seven reports from various city departments.

Seven reports would be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.

Well, reports from various city departments.

Actually, I'll just say for the under the consent agenda.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

Thank you so much.

We want to now bounce back to line item 20.3 colleagues.

That was one that we did bring back.

Mr.

President, that's 20.3 colleagues.

Mr.

President.

Yes, ma'am.

Member Waters.

Can I get a um a motion on 22.7?

I can't hear you.

I mean waiver on 22.7.

That's record.

You said 22.7.

Yeah.

There's a request for a waiver on line item 22.7, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

So we're going back to line item 20.3.

And that is to provide environmental consulting services.

This is Tetra Tech, location 615 Griswall Street.

I know member Callaway, believe you have questions on that particular item.

20.3.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh member Johnson.

It was just uh the correction letter for the oh, my apologies.

I'm looking at it now.

That is correct.

The correction letter, Mr.

Jones.

Uh through the chair.

Um, unfortunately, I was unable to get the correction letter by the end uh of this session here.

Um can we postpone this for one week?

Absolutely.

Colleagues, there are motion to postpone line item 20.3 for one week.

Motion.

Um there's a motion with discussion.

Yes, I I just want to make sure if we postpone this for one week, there's not going to be any um negative externalities or consequences from this, right?

Like if I go outside, like you know, and and and uh touch something that was supposed to be that was supposed to be it couldn't be prevented with environmental concerns so if I go outside and I expose myself to something that we're being consulted on environmentally on how to change and I turn to a ninja turtle.

That's not gonna happen, right?

Uh through the chair.

No, it should not be an issue.

This contract is actually already in place.

The original um request was a correction letter just to correct the number of years.

Okay, um, but there seemed to be an error on the correction letter that was sent and how it was submitted to your body.

So we're gonna fix both of those items and then present it the proper way next week.

But the contract is in place, so no worries.

I yeah, I just want to make sure that we're getting the proper your consulting.

You know, we don't compound the issues we already have in terms of dealing with the environment, dispersed and demolition and things that nature and toxicity.

All right, thank you, my man.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I'm done.

Thank you.

Colleagues, we'll now move to member reports.

Um motion has suspended this uh chairman didn't do that.

I'm sorry.

Line item 20.3 colleagues.

Is there a motion to approve?

2010.30.3 motion postpone.

Oh, different motion now.

I was looking at my I was scrolling.

That was my problem.

I made the motion to post.

You made a motion to postpone my apologies.

There's a motion to postpone line out of 20.3, colleagues.

Any objection?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

My apologies.

Uh member waters.

Thank you.

Um, so Mr.

Mr.

President, I I received um a few telephone calls regarding the appointment that we made a week ago for what until June 30th to the uh Detroit Land Bank.

Uh it is my understanding that there are some concerns about whether or not council had the legitimate right to make such an appointment.

Uh, even though it was just for what basically 30 days.

I I want to understand what is going on because when you appoint, um it is very humiliating to a very uh qualified person who is anxious to serve their community, only not to be able to be sworn in so that they could become a voting member with all of these rumors um uh around uh the appointment.

Um so I thought it was a council appointment.

Um I decided to to be a well, I won't say anyway.

So I I want to understand because somebody helped me to understand.

If there's anybody here from the mayor's office who can who can explain, because I thought that city council had an appointment, and the deal was to have this person to serve for 30 days, then city council members can have their people uh interview, come back to the table again if they want another appointment.

So uh Mr.

President.

This is not right.

I see attorney Anderson up front, but we also have Ms.

Sullivan, Ms.

Selvin.

Do you have anyone else that you would like to have promoted?

Through the chair, we defer to the law department.

Through the chair Graham Anderson Law Department.

Um yes, Councilmember Waters, we we hear all your concerns and uh uh absolutely understand where you're coming from.

It's come to our attention that it would be best to alter the resolution slightly.

The law department is happy to provide something that uh will be proper uh to this body.

Uh as you know, this was a handshake agreement between uh the mayor's office and city council, that we don't really have uh um anything in black letter law that explicitly states this is a council appointment.

Um, but after consultation with LPD, we're confident that we can put together a resolution for this body to uh deliver that would be in black letter law proper and still accommodate all the requests and desires by this body.

Okay, well, what is it gonna say?

Uh through the chair, it will say that the city council wants uh the individual that you selected to be nominated, and you will send this resolution to the mayor's office because it technically is still from the mayoral power to present this um uh selection, not actually city council's authority.

So the resolution really it makes uh most sense for the resolution to go to the mayor's office.

That is uh the main correction that's being made here.

And of course, it will obviously in the resolution state that you know this is an important liaison to city council, that city council um can direct the mayor's office if they are unhappy with this individual to uh pull them and to select somebody new, so we'll make sure all of that language is included in the resolution.

But it would be best for this resolution to actually directly go to the mayor's office, as that's where the legal authority does still come from is the mayor's office.

All right, and since City Council isn't responsible in the first place for approving all of the mayoral appointees.

I mean, they all come before this body, even though the mayor has the power to do so.

Um and the fact that we've already approved uh Mr.

Glenn uh for 30 days until the end of June, I guess it is.

Um does that make it a null and void?

Is that what you're saying?

Through the chair, I'm not sure if that would be necessary, but um uh this is only a 30-day appointment.

So for the further one, this would make things um uh proper and correct.

When is the resolution coming?

Because I I don't like being offensive to people we bring before this body, ask them to serve, they hit the ground running, start doing a good job, informing this body about about things, working with the Detroit Land Bank, um, offering suggestions and support, and here we are.

They can't even be sworn in yet.

You know how insulting that is.

Through the chair, absolutely.

And we want to encourage that civic um uh engagement, and we don't, and that's part of the reason why we want to make sure that this is done proper.

So down the line, there isn't some issue after this person, you know, would put in even more time and energy and effort.

We want to make sure that everything is done with the proper legal authority, to your point exactly that um when they get in and they put in all this effort and time and energy, and you know, you know uh the the we have wonderful civil servants here that come and volunteer their time to be able to make this happen.

Uh but so we we absolutely hear you.

We want to, we and that's part of the reason that we want to make sure that this is properly done right so that hard work isn't discredited down the line by um something not actually being the incorrect legal authority that was relied on for their appointment.

Okay, so how long is that gonna take?

For the chair, we'll have it ready next week.

All right, so I do want to ask my colleagues at what point are we going to have a conversation regarding the intergovernmental agreement.

Uh, this body has no power to do a doggone thing, nothing.

And I gotta tell you, it's pretty frustrating.

Uh, frankly, uh, you know, you gotta ask permission to do certain things around here.

I don't like it.

So anyway, we look forward to to uh to the to the resolution uh next week.

Um, because generally I stay out of the land bank things, and I'm trying to be open-minded.

I saw talent uh in Mr.

Glenn, extreme talent who understands that both both sides, both the community side and the business side has a lot to offer.

They were willing to serve, not to go over there to try to destroy the land, but as some members say that that's that's why I wanted them that let me just say that it's not true.

Had I wanted that, I never would put his name forward, not ever.

So and I'm just trying to be open-minded here, and and you're putting uh this very intelligent, hardworking man through all of this.

I don't appreciate it.

I don't appreciate it.

Great servant of the community, great businessman, and we ought to be looking for people like that who are innovative, and here we are holding them up, putting some changes.

He went on to the land to the land bank board meeting today, I think.

Certainly just sitting there to observe, had no power to do anything, nothing.

So anyway, it's it's humiliating, it is disrespectful.

It I mean, it's just all the things that I can I can think of that that are simply not right.

We've got to get it together.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you so much.

And if you recall last week, I raised that issue that we did not have the authority to appoint this individual.

That's that was my back and forth.

And I'm not just saying you, I'm saying just everyone in audience.

That is what I brought up that we did not as a body, and I've said this several times, even when it comes to the IGA, the IGA, I know member waters mentioned when are we going to have the conversation?

We've had the conversation.

The reality is the IGA is not with council, it's with the mayor, and it's very clear in the legislation.

So we're looking to get the legislation changed.

We need to get legislators to change that legislation.

It is not something we can unilaterally do.

It's something we absolutely want to have a hand on.

But the reality is this the legislation that's in place, the law does not allow for city council to be a party to this particular agreement.