Letisha Johnson present.

Councilmember Denzel and Tom McCampbell.

Council Member Reneda Miller.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Member Santiago Romero sent a memo indicating that she would be absent or absences, excuse.

Clerk will so note Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Council President Pro Tim Coleman Ayon the second.

Here.

Council President James Tate.

Here.

Mr.

President, you have a quorum.

Thank you, ma'am.

We have a quorum, which means we're now in session.

If anyone would like to provide a comment to this body during this meeting, please raise your hand now.

Someone from the team will come by and provide you with a comment card.

Keep those hands raised, please, so they can know who you are.

They will provide you with a comment card.

You will have an opportunity to speak before this body if you are online right now at home.

Please raise your hand as well.

We will place you in the queue because we will be cutting off the collection of public comment cards momentarily.

We will now begin this morning's invitation.

We have with us none other than uh Pastor Matthew Jones of the Fountain of Truth Christian Centers located at nine page zero one we district district four teaching men and women how to walk in power and victory when over others by their witness.

Come on down.

Come on down.

Finish it.

There you go.

Appreciate you, sir.

Thank you for being here.

Let us pray.

Father, we thank you for opportunity to gather it here today.

Thank you that it would not just be another day for now coming.

Coming together, Father, but that it shall be a day where decisions are made that will impact us for many days to come.

God, we ask that you touch each and every member of this council, every person who is assigned to lead and to guide us.

Father, let them serve with integrity.

When your word says, when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice.

And Father, let us all hear.

Those on Council Lord God and those representing the community, Father, let us listen to each other with empathy.

Because we all have a valid perspective.

We all have an interest.

And Father, let us all come together in unity and purpose to take Detroit where it needs to be.

Father, we thank you that we will hear each other, we will understand, and that we will make decisions that shall benefit our kids, our children, our children's children, Father, and get Detroit to be who you've called it to be.

A place of place of redemption, a place a place of prospering, a place of love, and a place that brings you glory.

We give you praise, we give you honor, and we give you glory.

It is in your son, Jesus' name.

I pray, amen.

Amen.

Thanks so much, Pastor Jones.

There we go.

Thank you, Pastor Jones, for that powerful prayer this morning.

If you would like to stay, we understand and we would welcome you.

But if you have a schedule, we understand that as well.

So we thank you again for opening up today's meeting with the invitation.

Madam Clerk, if you could please note that the journal of the session of Tuesday, May 19th, 2026, shall be approved.

Clerk will so note Mr.

President.

Thank you so much.

We have a special presentation this morning from the planning and development department regarding the master plan update.

Come on down.

Good morning, honorable council.

Thank you so much for having us here today.

My name is Dara O'Byrne.

I am the deputy director of the planning and development department.

And we're really excited to provide an update on Plan Detroit.

This is our quarterly update to this honorable body.

We've been making a lot of progress.

If we can go to the next slide.

Today we'll be going over some of our more recent engagement that has helped us refine policies and getting us towards that moment of having a complete draft plan.

So there will be more time for uh community engagement.

Um but if we can go to the next slide.

Some in the more traditional where we're hosting public meetings, community meetings and asking people to come to our meetings and other moments where we are going out to the community and attending their meetings and bringing the plan to them.

And I'm going to pass it over to Julie now to talk about our most recent engagement through our district planning.

Thanks so much, Dara.

Through the chair, a pleasure to be here, Julie Connecticut.

I'm the project manager overseeing the Plan Detroit update.

So we just wrapped up a series of district meetings talking about our place types map.

Place types as a reminder are replacing what we call future general land use designations today, but quite simply they're about kind of what our neighborhoods or different parts of the city are going to look and feel like, what types of development and neighborhood investments are needed in those places and where they land on the map.

So we hosted uh one meeting in person per district and four virtual office hours and had uh over 800 folks participate in these discussions.

During these meetings, we took feedback on the place types and where they were landed on the map on a series of discussion areas as well as areas that were more represented with solid colors, kind of proposed place types.

So we're in the process of compiling all of that feedback and incorporating it into an updated place types map.

But if we can go to the next slide, we also um compiled all of the written and drawn feedback on these maps that were kind of in addition to the exercises asked of folks, and we're gonna be considering and incorporating this feedback in various ways.

A lot of it relates more to the policy side of the document.

For example, when we're talking about the need for home repair or rehab programs in our neighborhoods, that probably falls more on the policy side of the document.

But things like industrial land use conflicts and buffering needs are probably going to be incorporated into that final place types map.

So we've documented all of this and it will be lifted up and incorporated in the appropriate place.

Next slide.

So the way we bring all of this together, it's not quite simply an exercise of asking the community what they want and putting that into a plan, right?

We're we're looking at a lot of different let's say pieces of the puzzle when we're putting together a sound and actionable plan.

So we want to make sure as planners, we are putting all of these different pieces together that starting with data analysis, understanding our existing needs as well as our projected demand for things like housing jobs and retail.

We want to make sure that the map is meeting those needs essentially.

We're also looking at past city plans and lifting up that recommendation.

Thousands of Detroiters participated in those plans.

We want to make sure that feedback is represented in this process as well.

Um we want to be advancing the vision values and goals of the project.

So we'll be looking at all of that alongside the community feedback we received along the way to put together the final place types map as well as the final plan recommendations.

Next slide.

We've also wrapped up a series of stakeholder interview conversations.

Um actually recommended some of these convenings.

So these were to help fill gaps in our engagement strategy.

Folks, that wouldn't typically come out to a community meeting to make sure that this was a more inclusive process.

So we met with groups like small business owners, our Hispanic, Bengali, and Caribbean communities, persons with disability, youth parents, these types of stakeholders.

Um we have gone through and we're documenting and looking for common issues among stakeholders.

What are things that we all agree on?

Um, but also looking for things that are particularly unique that we might be missing elsewhere in our engagement strategy and lifting those up as well.

Next slide.

So all of this is being pulled together as we speak into two main deliverables for the master plan.

There is a master plan document.

That's where the bulk of the writing and policies and strategies is going to be, and then the map, which shows kind of how these policies land in space.

Next slide.

So in the master plan, there are kind of three big chapters that help explain our strategic priorities and how to achieve them.

This is really just to give you a heads up about how this deliverable is going to look when it comes to you as well as the broader public, what they're going to be asked to review when we release it.

So main chapter, our policy framework.

This is including a series of policies and strategies that are organized around our goals and helping us achieve those goals and vision.

Our land use framework, which starts to tie these strategies to different place types for things like zoning, land sales, programs, and capital investments.

We want it to be very obvious when people open this document what types of things are needed in different places.

So we're all working together towards shared goals versus kind of going off in our own silos, doing our own things, maybe working in conflict with one another.

And third, we'll have a chapter with a bunch of decision-making checklists, basically helping implementers use this plan more effectively to guide their work.

Next slide.

And we've already talked a lot about the place types map.

Um, but we will be filling in all of these discussion areas on the place type map that you see here and showing you know where we will implement these various policies around the city.

And I'll hand it back to Deputy Director O'Byrne to talk about uh the home stretch and next steps.

Thank you.

Next slide.

Yep.

Uh so we are in the home stretch, which is really exciting for a long process like this, but I do want to reassure everyone there is more time to engage.

So we have gone through the draft place types and we had some really successful district meetings, and I do want to thank all of you for helping us get the word out and really supporting us in that effort to make sure that we had good attendance and participation.

I think we had really good conversations with community.

So we are in the process of revising those maps and policies, as Julie mentioned, and out of that, we are going to go back out to the community and a combination of opportunities for digital feedback and also in-person feedback.

And if you saw that map that Julie showed with all the dots of where people were from, we're gonna be taking um uh concerted effort to identify the areas where we missed people and make sure that we have an opportunity to go back out and make sure we're we're kind of filling those gaps as needed.

Um, and then out of that, we're gonna have a final draft plan and map, and then and then we'll be starting, then we will initiate the formal public comment period.

And that formal public comment period is a required 63-day public comment period.

Um and then we will have a final plan and map that will first go before planning commission and then come to this body for final approval.

So that's kind of the final step um steps in this process that we're looking forward to continuing to partner with you to get this um through the finish line.

Um, next slide.

And just again, our contact information for you all, but for those that uh might be at home, how to reach out, how to engage.

If folks haven't signed up for our newsletter, please do.

It is the best way to get consistent updates on everything that's happening, or go to our website.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um appreciate it.

Uh, I know that you indicated there's a public comment uh portion that's coming as um series of discussions.

Many times people believe when they reach out and they participate, that it really doesn't matter that the city is just checking the box and whoever's just checking the box.

What can you tell folks uh to convince them now and give us words of encouragement as well to get them to actually come out and provide information and ensure that some of some of what the to ensure that what they're saying and bringing to you us actually actually be considered, although everything may not be implemented, but it's being considered.

What was your your elevator pitch, if you will?

Thank you through the chair.

Thank you for that excellent question.

I think that what we have attempted to do throughout this process is to have a continuous loop of um getting community feedback, incorporating in the plan, and then bringing that back out to the community to confirm.

And I think a really good example of that is our vision values and goal statements.

Um we started with the city voices tour where people did really fun exercises, putting words on Django blocks and things like that that maybe seemed like you know a fun activity, but taking all of that feedback, incorporating it into our vision statement and showing how the words that they lifted up showed up in our values and our vision, and then brought that back out to the community, updated it based on feedback, and then refined it again.

Um, and we're doing the same thing with our policies now.

So we had draft policies through a policy workshop, we're updating it, we're gonna bring it back out.

People will see their feedback and comments represented in those policies, and then we're gonna refine again and refine again so that they will see um that that feedback in the final plan.

Um, the other thing that we really try to do is make sure that all the feedback is shown, um, all the comments that we've received are on the website so people can see it, and then how we're incorporating that into the plan.

Um, we we can't do this work without the input of the community.

Data will only take us so far.

So we really need that feedback to inform this plan to make sure that we're getting the vision, the values, and the policies right.

Thank you.

Colleagues, any additional questions.

And Madam Clerk, if you can please note that we have been joined by Member McCann.

My apologies, sir.

Mr.

President, thank you.

Thank you.

Colleagues, any uh questions for the planning department?

Member Johnson.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, thank you for the update.

Um, glad to see the district four came out in droves to be involved in the conversation.

Um, as I look at the district engagement summary, the map that you just referenced.

This is only from people who were involved in that district um discussion, right?

But there have been other opportunities for people throughout the city to be involved in um the master plan update.

Do you have that data that can be incorporated to really reflect the voices of people throughout all of our communities?

Yes, yes, through the chair.

Thank you for that question.

You're correct.

This map is only showing the participants from that district engagement.

In all of our in-person engagement, we have done a similar exercise, and we are compiling it all on top of each other, so you'll be able to see dots from all of the in-person engagement.

Um, the only thing we don't have represented in the same format is like our online survey because we only took zip codes, but for the most part, all of the um opportunities where people were coming to our meetings, we did the same sticker exercise, and we'll be able to show overall throughout this process where we've been getting feedback.

Um, and then what that's allowed us to do, as I mentioned before, for this for this engagement and all of our previous engagements is to show where we've done, we've gotten good feedback from good representation in our engagement and where we've had gaps, and then we can um work to make sure we're either doing stakeholder engagement there or other types of engagement to make sure that we're we're not um that we're able to address those gaps.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So glad to see that you all have summarized what you heard from the uh district engagement sessions.

It is a lot of what I hear as well, where I see district four um mentioned, and so it's great to see the community coming out and being involved and making sure that they help to shape the future of their community that this is not what you all are putting together and what you all are saying, but that this is coming from the residents throughout the city.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you so much.

Well, and I'd like to note that the collection of public comment cards is now included.

Uh, member waters, the floor is yours, ma'am.

Um, thank you, Ms.

President.

Good morning.

Um I want to ask you because there were some people in um precinct uh 10, I believe it was they asked me over the plans uh for them in that area over there for the Joseph Walker Williams Center is that strip.

Do we have a plan for for them?

Because they've been asking, of course, they want retail and so forth, but I don't know if you have any plans or not.

Maybe you know off the top of your head, but I wanted to ask on their behalf.

Uh, through the chair, thank you for that question.

So uh the master plan is for everybody, it's for the entire city, so that's good.

Um, the other thing that I will say is that um Madame Mayor Sheffield has committed to um the planning department initiating neighborhood plans in all areas of the city that haven't had a uh neighborhood plan in the last say 10 years.

So coming out of this master plan, one of our key steps is going to be to initiate planning studies in areas.

So if you're hearing from folks that haven't had a neighborhood plan that have been asking for a neighborhood plan, we are gearing up um to initiate planning studies in those areas um to also to help us implement the the master plan, but to make sure that we're touching those communities that haven't had that more specific level of planning.

Have you met with the 10th precinct yet?

Uh members in that community, have you met with them?

Yes, yes, you have.

Yep, go ahead.

Um through the chair.

This is a request that's been lifted up from your office previously.

So we were thinking about um that is potentially all the precincts really is a potentially good venue for um this next round of engagement where we're gonna do more going out to folks, making them aware of ways to tap in and make their voice heard before the process concludes.

Yeah, and and and lastly, I just want to say uh I want to encourage you to really uh receive see their input, you know, take it very seriously because generally people in the in the communities know exactly what it is that they want, and and I hope that we can be respectful of that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, and good morning, everyone.

Um, I see the pages aren't numbered, but it says stakeholder interview summary, and it is the third page or fourth page.

Yeah.

Okay.

Under the I guess it would be two, four, five, six.

It would be the teen said um they had no third spaces to hang out in, are interested in arts and entertainment uses.

How are we engaging the teens on a more um broader basis?

And I ask that because when you travel around the country, there are places for teams to go, not just a park and rec center with irregular hours, um, not creating extended hours, they are regular hours.

Um we have one bowling alley in the entire city.

We don't have putt putt golf, and I continue to say this.

We don't have um bumper cars like we used to have.

Um, we just don't have a lot for our teams to do, and it's not it's not fair.

Um that if they want to have, and I'll continue to say this, and you know, there's been some disagreement, but I'll continue to stand firm raising four children in this city, all four still live in the city, and they're young adults.

There was nowhere for me to really have a birthday party except for my backyard.

There's no Dave and Busters, there's no Chuck E.

Cheese.

Um most of the McDonald's that had a playland, they're closed.

The ones in District 2.

And so I want us to be really, really intentional about bringing in bowling alleys.

We have one movie theater.

One.

And when I was growing up, there was a movie theater in everybody's community that you could walk to.

Not that there's a demand for movie theater still because you have next Netflix, tubu, whatever you call them.

Um you have so many things you can do online, even on your phone, you can watch movies.

So I get that.

Maybe there's not um um uh appetite to go into a movie theater.

But other places have large imagine theaters, MJRs, bars, restaurants inside of them, bowling alleys.

You have the one in Royal Oak, and it's usually a lot of Detroiters enjoying that space off of Main Street.

So I'm hoping that we will really, really include family type of entertainment because right now when you go downtown, it's for one specific demographic, and that's usually mail and and alcohol, bars, restaurants, but it's nothing really family-oriented, not unless you drag your kids to a professional game, but that's going to be a ticket, then you gotta pay for parking.

I really want to see us be really, really intentional about building out spaces for families.

We we don't have one family entertainment center or amusement space in this big city with over 700,000 residents, but and we don't have a Target, we don't have a TJ Maxx, we don't have a Costco's, we don't have a Krogers that I'm aware of.

Um there's a lot that we just don't have.

And we don't have a Ross Dress for Less, we don't have a Burlington Cult factory, but as soon as you cross eight mile, they're all right there.

As soon as you cross eight mile, you don't even have to cross eight mile a mile.

As soon as you enter Southfield, right there down Greenfield where Northland, they have a whole strip.

Burlington Cold Factory is new, um Ross Dress for Less is new, five and below is new, all right there on that strip at Greenfield.

And I just and then now in Davisburg and out in here, Davisburg, I think they have 20,000 residents, but they get a 120,000 square foot target.

We don't have a target, we don't have a Walmart, and we may have one Home Depot and two and a half Myers.

So I I'm always going to say that.

Um and that's my life experience as I've been in the city.

We deserve better, and I'm hoping that this is the beginning of that better.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Calicini additional.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Good morning.

Thank you for the presentation.

Um I I echo the words of my colleague member Calloway.

Um, I will also say a question for you on knowing that you are doing additional outreach, you know, a lot of neighborhood associations, blog clubs, especially in district seven.

Um, the residents, I know you're doing that outreach for the public input, but residents know what's going on in their neighborhoods and what's needed there, and also have some of that data that we may not be able to capture on the on the top end here.

So um, for those folks who are listening that have been doing the work that have been surveying um their residents, um, what's the best way in addition to these meetings, but what's the best way to package that to get it to you all to be a part of this?

Thank you through the chair.

Thank you for that question.

Um, I think the the best way to you know provide if they have information or if they've been doing their own planning work, please do send it to us um at the contact information here.

Um it is I'm gonna make sure I give you the right uh email address.

Um Detroit Master Plan at Detroit Mi.gov.

All one word, Detroit Master Plan at DetroitMI.gov.

Um, we welcome, you know, we have looked at uh uh neighborhood plans or community plans that have been done by community groups.

Um so if they've you know worked with their community and come up with their priorities and things like that, we can definitely take a look at that, make sure it's lifted up.

I do want to distinguish that a lot of times they're getting much more specific in their recommendations, it's parcel by parcel, it's this block versus that block, and the mash plan is much higher level.

So I do want to set that expectation, but it can help inform uh what we're doing at the citywide level.

So please do share that.

And then um, as we are going back out to the community, I think there's gonna be a lot of opportunity.

Again, if they sign up for the newsletter as we are um creating our digital online um tools, they'll be able to do that, and then also we'll be going out to different meetings and things like that for folks to also have an opportunity where it doesn't have to just be digital.

Thank you.

Appreciate that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Uh, member Miller, followed by uh Proten Young, followed by uh member Johnson.

Good morning, ladies.

How are you?

I want to say thank you for rolling out the plan deacher update.

Um the actual community engagement was phenomenal on your behalf.

Um, as a Detroit resident and taxpayer, this was really the first time I've ever seen it pushed to this magnitude.

And it is a shame that a lot of our residents have not taken advantage of it.

I will continue to have them be updated on the website with your QR call.

Thank you for providing it to our office.

Uh, we share it at every meeting.

And to have the second highest input is while it's still great, is not enough.

Unfortunately, a lot of our residents have a preconceived notion that the planning is already done, that is already done in within the past 10 years, and this is just a preliminary.

But we have to continue to educate them that this is what you desire.

And so, like member Calwa said, as far as some of the things that they desire, we would hope to see some of those things implemented, but a lot of times people just don't want to do business in Detroit for various reasons.

We heard those things last weekend.

But as we continue to push, we will I appreciate your continuing to come into the neighborhoods and welcome you to come to any of our meetings so they can have that input.

Because one thing that I do tell people is you cannot complain if you do not participate.

You have to participate.

And that is one of our requirements in District Five to be heard.

But thank you for sharing the update with us.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh Pro Tin Young.

Thank you very much.

Uh excellent good to see you guys as always.

I just want to ask you first and foremost, I see your vision statement here.

Where is the mission statement?

Because it's gonna because if the vision statement is great.

We got to have a mission statement to kind of hold people accountable and you know, have some parameters of what you need to achieve.

So do you have that or is that something you're working on?

Uh through the chair.

So we have our vision statement, and I would say our mission statement is really our shared values.

We have five of them for the plan.

So each has kind of like a short description and then an expanded uh explanation of what that value means in terms of the plan.

So we have resilience, equity, collaboration, innovation, and legacy as the core values of the plan.

And then underneath that, we also have four goals that the plan is trying to advance.

So I would say all of that together is really what the plan is trying to do, and then the values are the standards that we're gonna hold ourselves to through writing the policy, but also in implementing the plan.

No, I think that's good, but if I would advise you, you need to consolidate that one mission statement so we can know what that is and what that means.

I think it's good that you're explaining that, but I think we need to be able to see the vision, what you do how you want to do it in the mission statement, how you want to get there.

Uh I'm gonna want to do, but I want to move on.

I wanted to ask you about um do you have um crime reduction through environmental design as a part of this?

And is it based on need?

What's what's the metrics for that?

Yeah, uh, through the chair, thank you for that question.

And we have heard it from a number of council members, um, and it is uh in our policies um explicitly uh originally we had uh our our consultants had drafted it using different language, and we said we need to use this specific language because I think it has been lifted up uh so much.

So we do have policy language in the draft, um, lifting up the importance of crime prevention through environmental design with some more specific strategies about how we might do that and make sure that it's incorporated in our work.

Um we don't get more specific than that, because that then becomes okay.

How does DPW make sure they're implementing that as they're doing street design?

How do we make sure we're incorporating that as we're doing design review of projects?

So it becomes a little bit more tactical on the next level, but by including it as a policy and then having strategies, we can make sure it's lifted up as a priority for the city.

No, I understand what you're saying.

You want to make sure that it's a policy, but you want to be flexible enough where it's not actually operating as a law or it's bridging that people have the flexibility to not be able to interfere with law enforcement.

And I think that's good.

I just want to keep back because I think that's why the mission statement is important.

So you can have that sort of level of accountability to what the vision of what you're trying to do is.

So basically any service that people want, they're living in a neighborhood, it's like 20 minutes away.

Do we have that included here?

What does that exactly look like in terms of the uh corridors?

And are all the corridors in the neighborhood gonna have a certain look, or are they all gonna be different based on the characteristics of the neighborhood?

What is that?

Through the chair, thank you for that question.

We are uh working on that concept right now.

Basically, the place types are our tool that we're gonna be able to implement that.

So we have neighborhood centers, which are focused um on the kind of higher density, both retail and mixed use development, where the the goal is that people will be able to walk to neighborhood centers.

Um, and then we also have commercial corridors, we have our regional center.

So the place types are the tool that we can use to achieve that vision.

I think what we're working through right now in terms of making sure that our place types make sense across the city is understanding is the 20 minutes walking, biking, transit, driving.

So we're we're figuring out that balance right now, um, recognizing that not everybody is going to walk to the grocery store.

Some people are gonna drive, some people are gonna take the bus, some people are so we're we're working through that right now, but you will definitely see that within the plan to make sure that we are creating a framework that um throughout the city people have access to those goods and amenities because that is something that we've heard lifted up both at um these meetings but also throughout the community that people want to make sure that they can do their day-to-day business within the city and and have access to those amenities.

It's the how and how much um we want to make sure that we're setting up our commercial corridors and our commercial our neighborhood centers for success, that um we have enough population and density to support them so that if we're investing in new retail that um they're gonna be successful as well.

So we're working on that balance right now.

Okay, okay, because I because I heard the word balance at first, which you kind of sounded like you were describing was mobility as a service, which I support, you know, but it's not exactly what the vision had in mind in terms of 20 million neighborhoods.

I would talk about it turns and you need a grocery store, if we need a dry cleaner, if you need any of those types of services, they're 20 minutes away from every neighborhood.

And I think you understand that concept.

You were just talking about the transit aspect, it turns out to get there.

Okay.

I'm gonna make sure I got that clear.

But my last question is um, do you have any sort of policy in terms of smart cities?

And so what I mean by that is using information communication technology, artificial intelligence to be able to solve problems and provide services in the most effective and efficient way possible.

Is there any planning for that at all?

And in and do we have specific neighborhoods and what they are, you know, if it's if it's farming, you can have smart farming because you could use trolls and be able to analyze the soil to see if it's fertile enough to farm there, to plant things there.

Um, if you're talking about transit, you could use sensors to be able to put there on the sidewalk so you can see which parking spaces are open and which ones are not.

Um, you're talking about senior citizens buildings, you can have a sense of the building to see whether or not the air is clean or whether or not to be able to act appropriately, or you could be able to determine whether or not the the building is falling apart before it actually shows signs of doing that.

So you can have preventative maintenance or you can have BC being able to respond to certain situations that we've had in the past of buildings that have fallen beyond just repair, we can respond quicker in that sort of um you can also use uh spatial data in terms of predicted policing, but I'm not saying that we do that.

But that's something that you can do.

I just want to ask has that been analyzed at all on this plan through the chair.

We haven't uh I think we haven't dug into that level of detail.

I think we have policies around innovation, and we have policies around making it easier um to do business with the city, and and I think pairing those two things gets a little bit at what you're talking about.

Um, and I think that there are things that we could do to lift up um these concepts in terms of you know what are the opportunities within the city to um incorporate innovation innovation and kind of tech into the how we do business to make it easier to do business with the city.

Um but I think you'll find that because this is a policy level doctor document, we won't always get as tactical as some of those ideas that you came up with.

Right.

We won't tell the police department which tools to use and things like that, but we can lift up um this idea of using tech and technology and innovation to advance our high-level goals and policies.

No, no, no, and I'm not telling you to I'll follow them out just on a general thousand foot level.

Yep, and just that we would be accountable.

We'll go back to mission statement, just so we'll be accountable to that goal.

But no, that's very that's a very good distinction.

Listen, um, could I send you some language that I have involving that?

Give me some weeks to kind of read through it because I have an idea, a template.

Can I just send that to you and then we just kind of work on it go from there?

Is that okay?

Yes, absolutely.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

We've got member Johnson in the queue.

College, any additional questions, questions, comments, concerns.

Member Johnson will be the final member on this particular item as we move to the agenda.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, it sounded like you were about to answer my question when you were talking about the place types.

Um, can you just speak to how the place types met that you're working on, how that and zoning will work with general land use and zoning.

Yeah.

Uh, through the chair.

Thank you for that question.

So the place types map is basically replacing the future general land use map.

Um, we're just kind of reframing it to be focused on kind of making sure we're addressing needs in the areas and that we're a little bit more general in terms of the character and what we're trying to achieve in over the next 20 years in these areas, but it will be and will serve the same function as the future general land use map.

And so zoning will work to implement that future general land use map.

So zoning will need to be um consistent and implement that that place types map.

But you're not anticipating any zoning amendments to be able to implement that that will be the next step coming out of uh the master plan will be to update zoning to be consistent with the master plan, and so um some changes you know you might see recommended is making sure that our neighborhood centers are um zoned so that we can actually uh achieve that vision of uh you know retail node um with a little bit more density so that the retail can be supported or um making sure that our neighborhoods have the appropriate zoning and things like that.

So are you looking for all of that to be figured out through the zone Detroit process?

We will be integrating both, so that's a great question.

So we are at the policy level, so it's high-level recommendations about land use, and then we'll work with Zone Detroit and have been working um with our colleagues at CPC around what that might look like.

One of the requirements of the master plan per state statute is that we uh create it's called uh zoning plan um where you show okay, this place type, um, these are the zoning designations that would be appropriate within that place type, um, and then an explanation of how that will be achieved over time.

So the idea is that they're really integrated together, and the reason why that's so important is we've gotten all this feedback from the community about what's important to them.

Zoning is one of the tools to help us implement that.

Um, and so they really do need to be aligned.

Okay, okay, thank you.

Um, looking forward to staying connected within um those conversations, and I just want to um say to uh one of my colleagues who talked about residents not fully being engaged, um, and those who believe that the the master plan has already been determined, um, which may discourage some people to get involved um probably four years ago.

Um, Member Santiago Romero and I were the two who really advocated for the master plan update, and colleagues helped to support adding some dollars uh in order for this process to be taking place um the way that it is today, and so just appreciate um the willingness of the administration to go through and and start the process.

So certainly looking to continue encouraging residents to be involved because this helps to uh shape the future of our neighborhoods, and I think they are best to help help us to understand the challenges that they're dealing with and what the future should be of their community.

So thank you all so much again for the work.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

And thank you both for the update.

Looking forward to our next one as we move uh progress down the road of this journey.

Thank you so much.

All right, Madam Clerk.

If you will, madam clerk uh uh under reconsiderations, ma'am.

Council member Benson, a motion to reconsider line item 4.1.

All right, member Benson uh motion motion to reconsider.

Motion to reconsider.

All right, colleagues a motion to reconsider the vote.

Um involving a legal representation and indemnification for teo Jason Green, which uh was voted down last week.

This line item 4.2.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Um 4.2.

There are motion to approve motion.

There's a motion to approve line item 4.2 colleagues.

Any objection?

Objection, member Johnson.

Objection, member McCampbell.

That motion passes, Mr.

President.

Thank you so much.

Line it 4.2 stands approved.

For the budget finance and audit standing committee, madam clerk.

Four reports from various city departments.

The four reports would be referred to the budget finance and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee.

Three reports from various city departments.

Three reports will be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the neighborhood and community services standing committee.

One report from the general services department.

One report will be referred to the neighborhood and community services standing committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

Three reports from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Three reports will be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.

Seven reports from various city departments.

Seven reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee.

So we can do that a little bit later on in the agenda as needed.

Clerk will so note that Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Um again, the seven reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee.

We will now move to the voting action matters under other matters.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

Under communications from the mayor and other governmental officials and agencies.

We shall now call for public comment.

Everyone will have two minutes.

We do have 15 in-person and 19 online.

Followed by Cassie Jones McBride, followed by Shawana Vaughn.

If you can come up to that microphone there, asking everyone to please be mindful of the time that you have on the clock.

Good morning.

Um my landlord.

Hold on one second, one second.

But I've been all right.

Okay, there you go.

The floor is yours, ma'am.

Good morning.

Okay, good morning.

Um, they have not did any work in two weeks.

I'm tired.

I'm I'm not giving them any money.

And I one thing I want to know is can I do a I know I can go to 36th district and put in escrow, but can I?

I'm trying to find out can I also go to the bank and put and put it in the escrow account that way because it don't make no sense.

I gotta mix up and deal with this at this home.

Or someone from my team will walk you through the process of escrow and after this recovered because just not paying.

I'm glad you you're you're actually thinking ahead of that because that gives whomever an opportunity to act against you.

So someone from my team will definitely connect with you to walk you through that process.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Our next speaker, Cassie Jones McBride, followed by Shawana Vaughn, followed by Jacqueline Robinson.

Good morning, President Tate and members of the Detroit City Council.

My name is Cassie Jones McBride, and I'm speaking on behalf of the Western Way County and ACP under the leadership of our president Gina Wilson Stewart.

We want to thank this body for advancing a resolution recognizing post-traumatic prison disorder.

This issue was elevated nationally through a 2019 NAACP resolution that acknowledged the lasting impact, incarceration can have on individuals, families, and communities.

I want to also recognize Shawana Vaughn whose life's work has helped bring awareness to this issue.

Three years of advocacy and education and leadership.

She has ensured that the experiences of formerly incarcerated individuals and their families are seen, heard, and understood.

As a civil rights organization, the NAACP recognizes that healing and restoration are essential components of justice.

And we appreciate the city of Detroit for bringing local attention to an issue that continues to affect countless families across our communities.

Thank you for your leadership and for recognizing this important issue.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next speaker, Ms.

Shawana Vaughn, followed by Jacqueline Robinson, followed by Youssef Qualls.

Good morning.

Thank you, Councilman Campbell and the rest of the body.

This resolution is my life's work.

It's like birthing my third child.

It's important.

It's important because I was born on a prison plantation, and I have five generations of women in incarceration.

And I'm clear the cost that it that it costs.

Mental health is not a privilege, it's a human right, no matter where you are.

Councilman Young talked about mission statements.

The Department of Corrections in every jail facility in this country says they repair and they and they do no harm and they make us better.

And they're lying.

And without someone closest to the problem to create the solution, it won't work because they don't have answers.

Post-traumatic prison disorder is a drop in the bucket to one of the answers.

Post-traumatic prison disorder is real.

The trauma often does not.

Families carry it, communities absorb it, and generations are impacted by it.

Recognizing that healing treatment is restoration, accountability is justice.

And the time, acknowledgement has passed, and it is now time to act.

And I and I am asking this council to pass this resolution because we stand for healing and justice.

And mental health is not a privilege, it's a human right.

And so on behalf of everybody I stand here for.

Thank you, Councilman Campbell, for taking up this mantle for me.

Thank you.

Good morning to this honorable body.

Um my name is Jacqueline Robinson, and I serve as the COO of the People's Action, and I work directly with individuals and families impacted by incarceration, community violence, trauma, and re-entry here in Detroit.

Um I'm here in support of the resolution for post-traumatic prison disorder.

Uh, whether we want to call it institutional trauma, incarceration-related trauma, or post-traumatic prison experiences.

The reality is that many returning citizens leave correctional environments, keep carrying deep psychological wounds.

We see men and women returning home who have spent years adapting to environments built around survival, control, isolation, and violence.

Those coping mechanisms do not disappear once someone is released.

The children of those men and women who often receive their parents back physically but not emotionally.

Families are expected to rebuild relationships without support, without counseling, and without acknowledgement of what incarceration does to the human mind.

This resolution alone will not solve the problem.

But acknowledgement matters.

Naming an issue creates space for policy, programming, research, and healing-centered approaches.

Acknowledging incarceration-related trauma is not about excusing behavior.

It is about understanding human beings well enough to interrupt cycles that continue to harm our communities.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next speaker, Yusuf Qualls, followed by Angela Davenport, followed by Ulrico Welch.

My name is Yusuf Qualls.

I was born in Detroit.

Unfortunately, I was raised in the Michigan Department of Corrections.

16 years old, I was uh juvenile life.

I spent 28 years in prison.

And since I've been home, one of the things that I recognized is I went and tried to get uh uh counseling a few different times, and I recognize that none of the people could actually understand what it was that I had gone through.

I mean, I mean, there aren't many of us who have gone through that, and you know, most therapists and whatnot, they have uh uh special things that they go to school for.

Well, in my case, they don't have that.

In prison, if you go and you tell somebody that you need to talk to somebody because you're going through something, you're like you're liable to be put in segregation because they don't they don't do that.

And so you avoid that.

You avoid telling somebody you need to speak to somebody because your mother just passed.

You need you need to speak to somebody.

I was in there through COVID.

There were 30 people in the unit that I was in that passed away within six months.

It wasn't talked about a lot, but that was something that I experienced.

My mother passed away while I was there.

Uh uh different family members, over 30 while I was there.

And since I've been home, it's one of those things where I still yesterday was my third uh anniversary of being out.

Um and I still deal with a lot of the trauma that I had to deal with in there that I thought I let go because once you're free, you figure you'll let all that stuff go.

That's not how it works.

I still find myself being uh overly protective over my space with my family, with with the way that I speak to people because I was in there for 28 years.

I spoke to people in a certain way.

It doesn't go away because you come home.

And this is something that needs to be addressed.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Congratulations on your three year anniversary as well, bro.

Keep it up.

Our next speaker, Angela Davenport, followed by Enrico Welch, followed by Darius Barron, I believe it is.

Mr.

Davenport, good morning.

Um, and good morning, uh, council president and members of the Detroit City Council.

My name is Angela Davenport, and I'm the executive director of an organization voting access for all coalition, a statewide organization working to build power with formerly incarcerated and justice-involved individuals.

And I and I'm here today in strong support of this resolution, recognizing post-traumatic prison disorder and the work led by Shawana Vaughn and Silent Cry.

This resolution matters because I know firsthand you cannot build a future while your mind and your body are still fighting battles from your past.

As someone directly impacted by the criminal legal system, I can tell you the effects of incarceration do not end when the sentence ends.

That impact has followed me home into my relationships into my work.

It's followed into me into how I see myself and whether or not I even believed I deserved a future.

So for so for many people, the greatest challenge is not simply coming home, it's learning how to live after years of just surviving.

Many people talk about second chances, but what we rarely talk about is what happens after someone receives that second chance.

How do you rebuild when you're still carrying trauma?

How do you heal when you're living in this fight or flight mode?

And how do you move forward when your mind and your body are responding to experiences from years ago?

And the reality is many people returning home are not simply just trying to find housing, employment, reconnect with families.

They're also trying to heal from this trauma that often goes unrecognized and untreated.

This resolution acknowledges a truth.

So many of us have lived, and this is about acknowledging that healing must be a part of reentry.

Treatment must be a part of what we mean when we talk about second chances.

So healing should not be a privilege available only to those who can afford it.

It should be what we mean when we talk about public safety reentry and second chances.

Thank you.

Hello, and good morning to you all.

I've come to all today because in each one of our lifetimes, there's one story that stands out that resonates with them, not just your community, but with the world.

As in uh Mississippi with the Emmy Tio story.

That's a story that passed through generation after generation because it was one in the lifetime story.

Even though that event happened in multiple times, we wanted uh we still remember today.

Now, in our city of Detroit, we have a story like that that has resonated from country to country, not just from state to state.

And that's the story of Nazi Harris.

And we we asked him for um somebody to sponsor so we don't have to, we can circumvent the um the signatures that's necessary so we can name that street beffer from Cornwell to Warren after that young um that young child who story has touched the hearts of many people.

And we we asked him for um somebody to sponsor so we don't have to we can circumvent the um the signatures that's necessary so we can name that street beffer from Cornwell to Warren after that young um that young child who story has touched the hearts of many people, and we and we asked it for another um for a day of commemorates, a day where we could commemorate her and the people that children just like her who suffered and the caregivers for their um accountability, basically.

We want accountability for anybody who's in the care of a child.

I'm sponsoring the bill now, I partnered with uh um change our to get the signature, but I wanted um bring it in front of our state legislators too that holds people accountable.

There's a caregivers that um know or should have known that our child was in danger and did nothing about it or ignored it or turned a blind eye for whatever reason, whether it be money for the love of someone or anything like that.

But I'm asking you all somebody to help me circumvent the first of all, one of the council members to help me circumvent the um signatures necessary to help sponsor that.

I knew I know it's a process in the Lord's only going to be five um streets named each year, but that that little small portion where she grew up and she was experienced a lot of difficulties between Cornwell and Warren.

I'm actually gonna hurt thank you for your time.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Thank you for this opportunity to speak.

And yes, you did shop my name up.

It's Dafheus, Davious.

Yeah, uh, I just wanted to say, like, I'm a returning citizen.

You know, you know, I just got out of prison from doing 35 years.

I went in when I was 17 years old, and I'm here to support you know the resolution because I went I went through a lot in prison and I didn't get the services.

You know, I lost three brothers and a sister that came from my mother's womb.

So I'm out here 21 days later, and nobody never really talked to me about what was going on inside of me.

It was just like you here, go out here, right?

So don't nobody even know what I'm thinking now.

You know what I'm saying?

What positive roads, what opportunities is given to me.

I'm staying in a mission, and when I came when I left, you know, I'm saying I was a teenager.

But right now, 21 days later, yeah, I'm here.

You know, I got all the people that support me and trying to give me positive things to do and everything, but nobody never asked me what I'm going through mentally.

And I'm right here back in the city of Detroit after leaving in 1991.

So, you know, I'm I'm here to support this resolution because we do need mental health treatment, and we do need you know, people to talk to us to find out and give us some kind of services if we want to be a pillar in the community, or you can just keep allowing people to come back out to the community that never was addressed with some of the things that they were going through.

Well, I just thank you for this opportunity, you know, for uh to be able to speak and let you know I support the resolution.

Thank you.

Next speaker, Shaw Williams, followed by Fidel L, followed by Betty.

Hello, hello through the chair.

Um abuse of a third uh authority, discretion, and it's your job, the people to serve us, protect and serve, to do the correct thing to comply to the laws in the constitution.

Okay, okay, so it's unacceptable when I try to get a PPO on this officer that's on the force that's been in prison, but in fact now.

So it's it's it's other it's the corruption, the level at the poison in the city.

And I've been speaking about a whole lot of stuff, but see, illegal voting, that's a pathway because it's not the it's not the ballots, it's the names.

How could they even get on the force?

Non-American citizens and ex-offenders.

So I I can apply to I can I can't I comprehend on everything what they just got finished talking about.

When you come home for prison, it's it's you dare to get they say to get help or the punishment or whatever you didn't done to get behind them gates, but but these a lot of people on this force have badges and weapons, and they are not mentally capable of even being an officer.

That's some real serious stuff right there.

And you all sit up here and it's unbelievable the extent of this, and you're not doing anything about it.

Like where I stay at, whoever Mark is the lead property management, he's connected to the city because all of these apartment buildings that he owned, they they live there, they are taking up house of vouchers and they make a whole lot of money.

They are taking up house of vouchers and they make a whole lot of money.

And then the building inspectors.

And we wonder how did it get to this point?

Somewhere down the line, you all forgot what the constitution really means.

Thank you, Ms.

Williams.

Speaker Fidel L, followed by Daddy Lyons, followed by Teresa Williams.

It's amazing how y'all find these pastors every week that pray and don't make no mention about this water drain off fee.

They pray and pray and do that.

I'm with a pastor that prays, but he put in the work, and he don't have to pay no water drain off free.

So it's up to y'all, the citizens of Detroit.

You're gonna pray with these people, and they slapping y'all upside of here with a drain off fee, or you're gonna pay with a pastor that fought the city, and he don't have to pay one dime.

Hey, to these people right here, all you gotta do is give them a contract.

Y'all giving out millions of dollars.

Give this lady right here a million dollars, and she can hire these people and get these other people coming out of prison to help.

Look how they looking, y'all.

Look how they're looking at you, looking at us like we stupid.

Mary Waters, you still say they ain't cheating.

You got 70, 80,000 votes for city council.

Now they're telling you you can't get a thousand votes to be on the ballot to go to DC.

But guess what?

You say you didn't believe us, so you know good and well you can't come ask us for no help.

They said keep your black face here.

Keep giving out them black people money to all these billionaires to stay right here in Detroit.

We won't see you in DC.

So all of y'all, especially Tate.

Who the boss?

Y'all claim when y'all running that we the boss and y'all work for us.

If that's the case, how do y'all vote y'all stuff to get a raise?

The people was supposed to vote that in.

We do say we ain't giving y'all nothing.

In fact, we just took some away.

If we the boss, so you say we just talking.

How do y'all got these illegal bonds?

Spot shot, license reading.

We didn't vote on none of that.

So again, this is why I say to the whole world.

The low life devilish city council, all no good, call themselves Christians and Democrats.

Hey, Joe, love it.

Go get you some help, man.

You got mental illness going on.

Next speaker Lyons, followed by Theresa Williams, followed by Pastor Lorenzo Sew.

Excuse me.

I'm calling y'all.

Um, you put your mic down, you all right.

You're uh okay.

You may begin.

Begin the time.

All right, don't want no emergencies.

All right.

Okay.

He was talking about uh oh and this country was founded by the criminally insane.

So y'all brag about who your granddaddies are because they're crazy.

The blacks were the slaves.

We built this country and have received no justice.

Yes, Miss Ahmed.

The wicked witch is dead.

I ran around the house yelling when I heard that dude and dropped out.

But he's a sly or fox, as the Bible says.

He's sly.

He might ask Mary Sheffield for a job, so don't be surprised.

He he he uh she'll probably give it to him because she gave that job to that old Conrad Conrad Mallet, another low life, how he treated the Leland people less than that was awful.

Scott Benson, that smirk of a smile when I suggested you go to the community that those people were breathing that semen dust, you thought it was funny.

I didn't.

You bought out the Bible.

Why would you bring out the Bible when those people are suffering?

But yet you sat, you and counsel sat behind Mike Dugan, liar, cheater, and he is satanic, just like you, and the rest of you who voted against us getting our over 600 million dollars that's owed to us.

But like that man said, you give millions of dollars.

You got that old fink lawyer in Bloomfield Hills getting millions of dollars.

You gladly give it to him, but you but you won't give us who stay in Detroit and support Detroit.

Get yourself together, God is watching.

Speaker, Teresa Williams, followed by Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, followed by Josh Man.

Um, good morning, um Detroit residents.

My name is Teresa Williams.

Um, I wanted to say about the teen takeover.

I was an educator for many years in Detroit public schools.

Now, if anyone walked in my class and I saw children running around going in after classroom, doing whatever they want to do, they're not gonna look at the children.

They're gonna say, What you doing, lady?

What are we paying you for?

The responsibility of our kids is the adult in the room.

We are the adults in the room.

It is our responsibility to provide adequate recreation, not only for the children, but for the citizens of Detroit as a whole.

Miss Callaway, you just said something we talked about for 30 years, but it but it's too much money going out of Detroit, right?

Right?

We support the suburbs.

11 billion dollars a year.

So why can't we have what our money generates in our neighborhoods?

Just plain human decency.

I've lived in Nova, I've never been asked to participate in a community cleanup.

I lived in South, same thing, never been asked.

So, and I've done so many times here, but that was before I had the privilege of being taught by Ramon Jackson.

So now I know better.

So, since we know better, we're going to do better.

This is not the same old Detroit where you're gonna sit in the seat for four years and just chill and give our money away.

No downtown project should get 10 cents before the millions come into the neighborhood.

And I don't know who them ladies was that was here, but like that woman said proximity is everything.

I doubt if they ever lived in Detroit, they know anything about it.

So, how dare they can come up here and talk about a master plan with all the millions of dollars that we got?

Let me tell you something.

It's plenty of smart, intelligenters that can do development, such as myself and others that have done it, that are sitting right here today, done it on their own without no money.

And let me say this.

My parents have been here for years, they're in their 80s, ain't never got a dime, not a fish from the city of St.

Next speaker Lorenzo, Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, followed by Josh Mann.

My name is Pastor Lorenzo Sewell.

I have the honor.

Our next speaker, Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, followed by Josh Mann.

And our final speaker will be Simone Wilkes.

Pastor Sewell.

Thank you.

Thank you.

My name is Pastor Lorenzo Sewell.

I have the honor and the privilege of being the senior pastor of Win Eddy Church.

Also had the honor and privilege of hosting President Donald Trump.

He came to my church, and I had the honor of meeting Ramon Jackson.

Let me say this.

I'm not a pastor that takes any money from this community.

I literally invest my wife and I, we have businesses.

We invest hundreds of thousands of dollars.

We've helped young people from Detroit, Pineac, Flint, and Saginaw, give full rise scholarships to Rochester Christian University.

And this is the problem, Detroit.

This is what I have to tell you.

You don't know black people how rich you are.

We have a three billion dollar budget.

Please hear me.

All of my black brothers and sisters whom I love.

Please, please listen to me.

We have a three billion dollar budget that the people that are up here are supposed to redistribute back to you.

And that's not happening.

That's why we know they don't work for us.

Let me explain this.

On this agenda, I know the man who loves this organization.

His name is Mark Wheedleman.

I know him.

He's starting CHS.

Listen to this.

They just gave him seven million dollars to do home renovations.

For every contractor out there, everyone that does grants, everyone that does any skill trade, any men out there that do skill trade.

I want you to call me today.

My number's 248 755 1896.

Call me 248 755 1896.

This is why.

These are the are the new members of the political cookers clan.

That's why he's leaving.

These are the new members.

They are stealing our money, they're stealing our resources, they're giving it to Gilbert, they're giving it to Illich, they're giving it to the Fords.

That's what's happening.

And they're stealing from you.

So I need every black man call me 248-755-1896.

We need to start a movement to get back our resources.

And then you won't have to worry about team takeovers.

You don't have to worry about some white girls coming up and telling you what to do with your city.

Next speaker, Josh Mann, followed by our final speaker, Simone Willis.

All right, welcome back, Miss Miller.

Glad to see you're feeling better.

Uh this flock stuff.

I'm still going on about that.

This AI surveillance.

Uh, I've been hearing rumors of some people up here teaming up.

So uh Flock is worth 7.5 billion.

Co-founder Peter Thiel.

Uh, fourth most mentioned person in the Epstein files.

Uh uh got I think 40 million dollars from Epstein.

Uh uh this isn't a person that I want in control of my data.

Uh uh section eight of the contract says if they wrongfully use or sell our data, it's a maximum 100 liability of a corporation, it's worth 7.5 billion.

They plan on misusing this data.

Then with the recent news saying the IDF and the U.S.

military are coming together.

This technology is all bordering Israel.

They have a program called Red Wolf Blue Wolf, which is facial recognition at the at the border.

Now they have smart shot.

Smart shot is a gun controlled by AI that can execute on site.

This stuff that you are our city government is allowing to come into our town is gonna be so dangerous and gonna turn on us.

Who's getting the new cars this year?

2027 with the upgraded interior surveillance and audio monitoring is going to be property of Ford, Toyota, Honda, whoever giving away our privacy to these corporations is wrong, and it is gonna fight us in the end.

It's gonna ruin it for generations of people.

It's gonna take away the jobs of these officers that are here.

AI will replace officers, just like at Myers.

They said, here's the new checkout line.

Now that now that's all you got.

You got a line of people waiting to scan, and I'm choosing to go deal with the person because I want people to have jobs, human interaction.

This team takeover stuff.

Miss Callaway, I'd love to send you an email that I sent to councilman.

Show you how I've done thank you so much.

Simone Wilkes.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning, everyone.

My name is Simone Wilkes.

Thank you all for having me today and allowing me to speak.

First, I want to speak about the housing.

Um I want you guys not one, I want you guys, I demand you guys to vote yes on helping Section 8 voucher holders become homeowners because it's a lot of red tape with that.

And I feel that by you guys being on the council that you guys can change that.

And also I am a mother of two small boys, and I am unable to find car insurance.

And I am a person that's um under the income requirements.

So therefore, I don't have enough to pay 500 to 600 in basic coverage.

You know, you know, and then when you go online and you try to uh um follow these ads, they say, Oh, you can uh lawyer and car insurance by hundreds hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

But once you do it, they just collect your information.

People from Asia call you talking about oh, you got your car in 2008.

No, I didn't get my car until 2008.

I parted in 2008.

But it's just you know, third parties getting your information and still when you finish the quote, you still up 600, 500.

So the city city really needs to do something about that because the income, I mean, the impound lot is becoming billionaires.

Uh um, we we supposed to be a city that is due free travel.

If you have license, we should be able to travel without having to get car insurance because if you have your orange own insurance, you shouldn't have to pay the personal protection plan with their car insurance.

If you already got insurance, but they don't even acknowledge that.

So I just ask that you guys look into finding a resolution to that.

And then and then also and then also with the housing, y'all need to update the system because it's a lot of housing that's saying that they're um available, but once you get there, you're being scammed of your money, and there's no way to get it back.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you, Simon.

I believe we have 19 callers.

Morning team, who do we have first?

Morning, Council President.

We have William M.

Davis going first this morning.

All right, Mr.

William M.

Davis, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Sir, okay.

I'm pleased to hear that uh the city has a budget of over three billion dollars.

I'm pleased to hear that the city council and the mayor now has more authority to help the city of Detroit retirees.

What would be really good if the city Detroit, you know, we had a 4.5% pension cut.

We we lost our cost of living retroactively, and we had a 15.5 annuity claw back.

I think it would be great, especially since in the last 13 years, city council and the mayor's salaries have gone up over 40 percent.

Uh city retirees have lost over 50 percent of our purchasing power.

If the city was to, uh now that you have the authority, was to give us back at least 3% of our 4.5% pension cut.

You know, if there's still, I know as of last June, there was like 10,713 general fund retirees.

I'm sure since that time more of us have died because more of us keep dying every month.

But just on those numbers, if you was to give us back 3% of our 4.5% that was cut, that would be less than $9.5 million a year.

Which should be pocket change in the $3 billion budget, especially in so much that it appears as if more than that goes to police to find lawsuits.

Uh more than that goes to all sorts of stuff.

More than that goes to millionaires and billionaires every year.

So I would hope that y'all would be more compassionate, more understanding, and do something to really make it shows as if the city is out of truly out of bankruptcy.

Start to repay some of the money that was stolen from the city retirees.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good morning.

And then it's another May Mayberry.

I am calling in regards to the Juneteenth flag that I had came down there for you have a new flyer out stating that it's the seventh annual raising of the June or having the event of the Juneteenth celebration in the city of Detroit, which I orchestrated two years ago to get the flag to be flown.

Came down every Tuesday to be at the at the meetings.

Most of you knew who I knew who I am or know who I am about that flag.

But not being uh, you know, I'm really an advocate for the Martin Luther King Memorial Park as well, which was promised to me to be uh refurbished, new park benches, the name of Martin Luther King on the park, which uh I went before the city council once again last year to have that park redone.

We haven't seen anything done, the work touched done, been done on it.

I am a citizen of the city of Detroit who has been uh advocate for the city of Detroit for over 50 years, and I stand on trying to get the things that needs to be done for the city of Detroit.

That park is needs to be renovated.

We must have some kind of justice done for that part that has no name on it.

The park benches are torn up.

I um have been an advocate for that park to be renovated for the last three years.

So now it is time for us to have the justice of that park being done.

I would like to see uh a full statue of Coleman Young in the plastic that stands before the Coleman Young Center also, and I guess she could put on the spirit of Detroit for Black History.

Thank you.

Next caller next caller, please.

Our next caller is gonna be Zoom user.

Caller, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Hello.

Hello, hello.

All right, my name's Charles Miles.

I'm calling in today about my property tax issue that's been going on since 2017.

And the city of Detroit, and I'm in court at Third Circuit Court.

Is any way somebody can look up the third six circuit court case, Charles Miles versus City of Detroit and Wayne County Treasurer that's been going on since 2025, since you took my properties without going over the receipts, and no one from the city of Detroit ever showed up to a court hearing, never.

What's going on?

Can I get some help with you finding out what's going on?

Why the city of Detroit uh attorneys uh nobody has showed up to court to talk about my receipts that I paid the taxes or you know, to go over the receipts to show that I paid the taxes on this property.

And you guys are not saying nothing about it.

I've been coming down here for years now and trying to get this resolved before it got to this situation, and you guys says you was working on it, and then all of a sudden it ended up in court with them taking it, and you're saying that I owe money that I don't owe, and I got the receipts to show that I paid this money, and you guys misapplied the payment.

I don't understand why it's a secret, and it's not a secret.

You guys know what's going on, and you won't say anything.

So can I get some help with somebody calling to the 36th?

I mean, to the third circuit court to the uh it's under the chief judge, uh, yule, and at the third circuit court, and it needs to be addressed from the city of Detroit that these receipts uh that I made these payments, and I have the receipts from the city.

Thank you.

Let's call it please.

Next caller is gonna be caller ending at 169.

Caller ending in 169.

The floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Hello, can you guys hear me?

Yes, sir.

Great.

Um, Cunningham has some money, um, but he has bad luck with vehicles.

Um, Amy's engine repair or purchase another vehicle.

Can you help him?

Can you help him?

Can you help him?

Thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham, better yet.

Thank you for banking, Cunningham.

Um, this is by Octavia E.

Butler.

Octavia E.

Butler was a groundbreaking American science fiction author, widely celebrated as the mother of Afrofuturism.

Not everyone has been a bully or the victim of bullying, but everyone has seen bullying it, and seeing it has responded to it by joining in or objecting by laughing or keeping silent or feeling disgusted or feeling interested.

Thank you for my time and fix D dot.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is going to be a caller ending in 669.

Caller ending in 669.

The floor is yours.

Two minutes, general public comment.

Very, very important.

And I hope that it passes.

And uh they had to take me out by emergency and pump me with Ada Bans to get me to relax and um to eat.

And after that, they started to give me the medication that I have been on for years.

Umforcement can be merciless.

You whole lot in life, a lot of long suffering upon long suffering upon long suffering, upon long suffering.

And uh the bullies just got their foot on my neck.

And I would say medication and counseling is very effective, and it's something that needs to be done.

I want you all to put my name out in the atmosphere, Brother Clay, my mom shortmarie lion, say the words of my social at the river to go point, drink a lot of fluids and praying the Holy Spirit.

Uh, that no weapon formed against me or herself prosper in the time to rise up in judgment, thou shalt condemn.

No weapon, and no one's perfect, grace and mercy.

Yeah, my son that my son that I'm my son that my son that I'm calling Lou Young that I'm so low, core, my son, that I'm my son, that I'm gonna my son, that I'm my son, that I'm my son, that I'm my job.

Let's call her please.

Next caller is going to be black bag.

Right.

Caller, the floor is yours.

Two minutes, general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Yep, I'm right here, James.

The ending of your political career in Detroit, Michigan.

Now you a cheated in public official.

You're also the city council president.

And you also call Kenesha Coleman, DPD, case number two zero-1112's mother, and said I was not the right representative for the family.

And said I was not the right representative for the family.

Well, I told you already.

So now it's up.

You gotta go, and all the rest of y'all gotta go because y'all been cheated in, cheated in.

Public officials by Dennis M.

Winfrey of the Detroit Election Commission and Detroit City Clerk.

And her cohort, cohort.

Daniel Baxter, who stepped to me in the committee of the whole room, that room outside the committee of the whole room, and found out what he found out about me.

Now all y'all cheated in.

Every elected official in the field of Detroit is cheated in.

Y'all need to call Dina Avery Walker herself, the director of the Detroit Department of Elections, and have her explain how Mary Elaine Beckman's ballot was counted in that February 27th.

United States presidential primary election for her now.

Turn up time.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is Ms.

Betty A.

Warner.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

I'm Betty A.

Varner, president of the Soda Elsworth Black Association.

Glad to see all the council members got back safely.

Navigating for the Fink Accorder.

There's a Mr.

Dabbitt and his two sons who would like to open up a mini market with uh six gas pumps, uh, where the Mickey D was located on Finco and Wyoming.

We are a food desert.

We do not have a supermarket in our immediate area.

There's a lot of seniors, there's a lot of single parents with children.

They don't have uh the transportation sometimes to get to the supermarket to get the uh type of healthy foods that is needed.

This mini market, Mr.

Dabbett states that it would have dairy, uh produce, healthy snacks, uh the deli with serve uh hot food and cold food, and it is needed in our area.

So when he comes to the council uh to speak on him uh wanting to open up the business, I'm hoping that the council will support uh as a uh black club uh leader and my members and residents that we have spoken to.

They want this uh mini market in our community.

So please support.

We're also uh asking for I think accorder monies to be redevelopment.

We've had a lot of uh good conversations last year, but we need monies to make the conversations and all the good things we heard become a reality, and also we're still looking for support to get that uh land use hearing fee way.

Thank you.

You'll call her please.

Our next caller is going to be Tahira Amal.

All of the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning, everyone.

I support and congratulations to everyone who are addressing the post-traumatic prison resolution.

Uh regarding the city's master plan.

It's troubling to see two white women heading Detroit City's master plan.

Uh, for your information, Detroit homeowners were illegally over taxed $600 million to a billion dollars, and a hundred thousand homes were illegally foreclosed.

Duggan had yearly surpluses of $60 million.

Multiply that by each year he was in office.

That equals over $600 million that he stole by failed mayor Mike Duggan not addressing this and leaving office and and and leaving town.

He needs to be uh made accountable for this.

And uh Dana Nessel dropped all investigation, the corruption and uh the bid rigging for a demolition, uh uh the make your date scandal with uh the uh uh his wife, his new his wife that he uh committed adultery with, caused them to lose his 30-year marriage uh to his former wife.

All that was dropped, as well as the poisoning of Flint by the uh Rick the poisoner Snyder, dropped by Dana Nessel.

Don't ball her back in as AG.

Um, you can contact the coalition for property tax justice.

We meet every first Saturday of the month at 4401 Conor at 1030 a.m.

You will call us at 313 438698.

Uh citizens work with us to demand payment and justice for this illegal uh theft of our money, and wonder um uh why these two women uh don't even incorporate that next caller, please.

Next callers owner Papa.

General public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Uh yes, good morning.

And through the chair, may I be heard?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

You've heard a lot of things today, a lot of things about your behavior as a body.

Um, we don't appreciate how you're misappropriating, because I can't say appropriate, I say misappropriating our funds.

You have loud miss waters, you really ought to see what's going on.

You can be um uh uh at large uh city council member, but you can't muster up enough uh uh votes to to take you to Washington.

Um where they have the the the most atrocious uh what is his name, Cherie.

He doesn't do anything or bring anything to the people of the city of Detroit.

But we listened to talk show hosts like Mildred Gaddis that made us turn against politicians like Carolyn Sheets Kilpatrick, who actually brought funds to the city of Detroit, and now we're left with uh Cherie.

Please, um the Democratic Party is gerrymandering the city of Detroit.

I don't know how it's legal for you to draw lines for district and leave out all of the essentials like recreation centers.

But I'm gonna I'm gonna tell this body this.

I I understand the Dred Scott Law, I understand what it means, but but it's very hurtful to see my people, people who look like me that are sitting over me, deliberating uh over my money and giving it to everybody else, even to the point where you got white women coming down here telling you about the future of Detroit when we're a majority black city.

You all ought to be ashamed, but I know there's no shame in your game because you're running game, and and and the game is about to end for all of you because when people wake up and know that you are their enemy, they're going to act accordingly because you are the enemy of the people.

You are not friends to people, and and I don't care what people think, you are not, and you are not fit to sit in those seats.

Yes, and Mr.

Young, you are retarded.

On this caller, please.

Our next caller is you, ma'am.

Caller, the floor is yours.

Two minutes, general public comment.

Caller, the floor is yours.

Two minutes, general public comment.

Let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next place.

Hello.

All righty, there you go.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Hello.

Are you there, Ms.

Ward?

Can you hear me?

We can hear you.

Can you hear me?

Okay, now I can hear you.

Thank you.

Okay.

First of all, um, I think that it should be post-incarceration disorder.

People can be in jail or pre-chail detainees and get mistreated and have fight or flight.

Number two, these pre-sale inspections sounds like another money grab that is not needed.

When I mean, why would you even do this when they're not even properly inspecting senior buildings or like the Leland building?

Look what happened to them.

Also, uh Representative Miller, you're right.

Many people believe the plan is already made.

Um, the uh master plan update engagement process has been a joke to me.

Uh Miss Conneckey admitted omitted some very important public uh uh input they got at a district five meeting at the Buttle Rec Center where people said, I don't want to plan other people's neighborhoods, I want to plan my own neighborhood.

And then I just get an email that they're gonna have some meeting on Thursday between like three and four thirty, which is business hours.

Hello, and you wonder why maybe you don't got a lot of great participation.

Also, I kept asking um who are these stakeholder interviews with?

And you know, uh like people want to meet in their own neighborhoods and talk about their own neighborhoods.

And thank you for finally recognizing that some people didn't get a planning study, and it looks like the city is up to changing the results of what came out of the planning, the belated planning study in my neighborhood conveniently passed after you ran through that uh controversial North Ending project, refused to meet many of you got your one-off meetings with Sheila Cockrell and the developer.

I bet you some of you money got money from the developer because Mr.

Darrell Carter himself is on Mary Sheffield's transition team, and that's the guy that got up at the BZA hearing and said, Oh, the reason they oppose this is their underlying racism.

Well, news flash, we're black and white united against it.

So we don't appreciate it.

The master plan update needs to be.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is going to be Samsung SMG991U.

Caller, the floor is yours.

Two minutes.

General public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Let's put that.

Let's put that caller to end the queue and go to the next, please.

Next caller is going to be Roger Frank.

My caller, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes.

General public comment.

Um, hello, and thank you, uh, honorable chair and council members for this opportunity to speak with you today.

My name is Roger Frank, and I live with my wife on Townsend Street in Island View.

We're just uh just east of Grand East Grand Boulevard and between Van Dyke.

Um I've been a resident of the city of Detroit since 2000, and my wife has been a lifelong resident.

And I'm asking today that you can do whatever is in within your power to address a noise complaint that the residents have over here.

And it's concerning Riverview Rehab.

River View Riverview Rehab is on East Jefferson, and they've got some sort of machinery that's uh causing an incessant noise, disturbing sound that doesn't stop for 24-7.

It's something to do with one of their generators, is what I've learned through the news media.

And I'm asking if uh B seed and the law department could look into this because it's truly disturbing our what is like very quality of life issue over here in our quiet neighborhood.

So I would appreciate if uh our district leaders or the council can address it.

It was uh brought to the media, I think it was on WDIV a couple times, but it's uh the noise is continuing, it hasn't stopped.

And like I said, it's 24-7.

You have your windows open, it's a very high-pitched screeching noise.

So appreciate all the work you're doing, and that's all I have this afternoon or this this morning.

I guess we're still in morning.

So thank you again for this opportunity to speak with you, and I hope that it can be resolved soon.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller will be caller ending in one, two four.

Caller the floor is yours.

Two minutes of general public comment.

Caller, the floor is yours.

Let's put this.

Council President, they say that they already spoke.

I believe they logged on twice.

That'll make our next caller, Victoria Camille.

Caller, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Greetings, honorable council members.

Can I be heard?

Yes.

Yes.

Thank you.

My name is Victoria Camille, police commissioner elected from District 7, and I'm speaking in my individual capacity.

I'm calling to support the resolution recognizing post-traumatic prison disorder.

I hope this resolution brings attention and resources to address the needs of those who are incarcerated as well as those return at home.

And I also hope it brings to light how harmful incarceration is, period, and the importance of seeking more restorative justice pathways so that accountability, healing, and repairing of relationships happen in a holistic and healthy way.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is going to be Renar Moshansky.

All right, Mr.

Minar Matsonski.

The floor is yours.

Two minutes.

General public comment.

Hi, good morning.

Can I or afternoon?

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Oh, it is morning.

My name is Renard Myshenski.

I'm a community organizer around transit with Detroit People's Platform and a resident of District 6 of Detroit.

And I um wanted to raise to this uh body's attention that um there was a line item of particular interest that I wanted to speak of yesterday in public health and safety about purchasing or the status of hydrogen buses and also alternative fuel buses.

This is my concern along with others um that with these diesel prices and um gas prices increasing, that's gonna put increased pressure on our cities um in terms of finances and being able to run D DOT.

DA also has another issue that I need to raise to this body.

Um the administration has been doing an excellent job in getting um people employed, um, getting our full-time drivers uh roster increases, so basically enough drivers and investment into D DOT.

However, we are short buses, and it takes two years for that to be procured.

And um, I sit at a table of other organizers and transit organizers, and I just wanted to inquire to this body.

Is it possible that the city of Detroit can enjoy what the state of Michigan or some other entity in piggy back off other cities orders that are already in process for these buses?

And also consider non-gasoline, non-visal buses because fuel prices are gonna be sticky, meaning there this is a new normal.

I don't think they're ever gonna go back down again because of the conference the United States is involved in.

But the city of Detroit um has an opportunity also this August to vote on transit millage that could possibly yield up to seven to eight million dollars for our city for DDoP.

This money should go into operations and other sort of fixes like shelters, bus stops, and supporting do not reimagine, but not to be offset it because the city should continue to use its general fund as well.

What I'm saying is federal money will be challenged in the future.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is going to be Darren McCleskey.

Call the call to the floor is yours.

Two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning, council.

Long time no see.

Okay, so let's start off.

You guys are talking about uh post-incarceration traumatic stress syndrome.

How about the city traumatizing people in prison by way of eminent domain?

You guessed it for solar panel farms.

So I had the pleasure of meeting a young man, Brian Lipford, a few years ago.

I sold him a house on land contract.

He bought the side lots around that house.

He was incarcerated.

I was able to reach him, find him in the federal prison system, got the house back, and then guess what happened just a few months later?

He was served by the city of Detroit.

Oh, wait, he wasn't served.

They served a random address in Warren and defaulted him, and then said that it was sufficient, and then he had his land, his only asset to his name, Bolly's in prison, taken from him for solar panel farms.

When the city has way more than enough land, three to four times as much land as they had to take from private individuals.

They already had on big parcels.

Okay, so if you guys want to talk about that, just bring it in.

But is that part of the land use plan that we just heard about too?

Because that's very interesting.

By the way, the source of all this, Mr.

Ski.

It still stands.

I just drove by this morning.

No work's been done.

Yet somewhere a couple hundred thousand dollars has been spent on remediation.

And if you guys think that it's gonna look all pretty having the solar panel farms with plants around them, go to the Delray phyto remediation forest.

Yep, Google that, drive to it.

Look at those plants.

They're not being maintained, they look like absolute crap.

Half the trees are dead.

The city doesn't mow its grass.

That's what the solar farms are gonna look like.

Detroit solar scam.com.

Caller, please.

Our final caller report going back to our caller, and the queue is going to be Cindy Dara.

The floor is yours.

Two minutes.

General public comment.

Are you there?

Sended our going twice.

Are you there?

Unfortunately, we're gonna have to move on.

Would like to provide your comments to the clerk's office.

It'll be placed on to public record.

Mr.

Huff, do we have any additional callers in the queue?

Yes.

We have our callers.

Um yes in the queue.

Samsung SMG991U.

Okay.

Caller, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Caller, are you there going once?

Caller, are you there going twice?

One three times, caller, are you there?

Can I be heard?

I was having a problem getting on there for some reason.

But anyway, I want to say good afternoon to all.

Mr.

Benson when he talked about picking up the Bible and uh reading the scripture.

But he only do that for other people.

He don't do it for our people.

Yes, say, well, you know, he don't he had he didn't people don't know this who they talk about, but I know, and some other people know, just like about the property uh that I told him about that needed uh I didn't say it needed to be told down or anything, it's just that the doors are open, the houses open.

So I had gave him a list about 14 homes, and none of them went to nobody black nor no Caucasian.

And he gave them houses.

I want to know how they got them.

I don't know.

Uh I guess the freedom of information that somebody can look up because I was told again, as I said on the here before, that he someone was telling him, I'm not saying he, I'm just saying uh we heard from Ham Chamakin here in my area that someone was somebody downtown was telling them to if you see a vacant house to fix it up and move in it.

So I need someone to check out that on the Freedom Information Act because they said it was someone downtown that told them.

I mean, they just they just come in here swooping up houses, swooping up houses.

And when you take care of a place, not was taken care of, but taking care.

And there for 1999, but you can have other people come in and swoop up houses with no problem.

Something wrong with that picture.

And the pastor, if I'm not mistaken, it came on this morning.

And I I didn't hear him, I heard him mention about the children, but he didn't mention anything about the senior citizens.

And we seniors are just as important as the kids, even though they're the younger ones, but seniors caller, please.

Returning to Cindy Dara, that will be our final caller caller for public comment this morning.

I just I just did Cindy Dara, sir.

Well, then that concludes that concludes public comment for this morning.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

All right, all right, colleagues.

Any comments that you would like to provide member the camel's yours, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, just very quickly, I just want to say I know that a lot many of the issues that we work on here on City Council are crucially and streamly important to the livelihoods of Detroiters.

And there's a lot of passion behind the work that goes on in the city.

Um, I just want also folks to realize and to keep in mind, folks, humanity um as we do this work and realizing that we all um are uh people and that we have lives and that um we also all deserve um respect in that way.

When it comes to the personal attacks, I think that is um completely out of line here.

It's always fair to disagree on the issues and disagree on stances and disagree on the work that your city council member or representative or anyone is doing, but when we get down to the disparage and aspects of her people personally, I think that that really crosses the line and really gets us into a place where it's not productive on the work on behalf of the city of Detroit residents.

So I just want to uh say that and ask that, of course, for us up here on City Council to give residents the respect that they deserve, and and also for everyone to take an extra step and thinking about the words that we use because they are very impactful and words do matter.

So thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Member McCamlin.

You said that so much better better than I could articulate because I really wanted to just stress the uh the fact that we have some real hurt people who are calling in.

Uh, and they are hurt for various reasons.

Um nothing to do with us, but they go through life and things have hurt them, and they've tried to find ways to bring other folks down and bring them down to their love.

It's unfortunate.

We are always willing to take in public comment, conversations, meetings.

Um, but once you start crossing the line with these personal attacks, it becomes for I'm just gonna say for me, just white noise.

I don't hear it anymore.

We can have a conversation, we can disagree, and there's been conversations that I've had with folks that I've disagreed with, and they have changed my perspective.

They've added some additional information, but once it turns into uh insults uh um and and degradation, there's nothing left there.

So that's got a young man who's trying to set up a meeting with me right now.

But he's spent all the time just insulting, and why would I do that?

Have no reason.

But that doesn't stop me personally from having conversation, communication, meetings, and information with members of the community.

We're going above and beyond.

This is not an easy job whatsoever.

It takes a lot, a lot to do this, um, and to do it with excellence.

And I am so proud of each and every one of these members on Detroit City Council for the work that we put in on a daily basis.

Um but again, I I just thank you for articulating it much better than I than I could.

Um, but I I do just um I pray for and I wish for those who are miserable to um to not try to invite us to the party, and they can have that miserable situation on their own.

Um, that's just me talking, not my colleagues.

But again, thank you, member McCandel.

Any additional colleagues, a member of Pro Chum, you know.

Yes, uh, I just want to thank them, Ms.

Betty Lyons for checking on me.

I just want to say I appreciate your uh check it on me.

I will send you something shortly to do that, but I appreciate your concern.

That really wore my heart over.

So I just want to say thank you very much because I know that's hard earned, so I just want to say I appreciate it.

All right, see no additional comments, colleagues.

Uh uh, Madam Clerk, understanding committee reports from the public health and safety standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Councilmember McCampbell, three resolutions, noting that line items 17.1 through 17.3 were postponed from last week formal session for fire.

Contract number 600741, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for the city of Detroit.

Contractor Superior Air Ground Ambulance Service Incorporated, total contract amount 1,770, 615.

Contract number 600737, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for city of Detroit.

Contractor Hart EMS Medical Services, PLLC, total contract amount, 1 million 506, 540 and 42 cent.

Contract number 600727, 100% city funding to provide supplemental emergency ambulance coverage for the city of Detroit.

Contractor, American EMS of Michigan, LLC, total contract amount, one million six hundred eighty-two thousand four hundred forty-five dollars and sixty cent.

Council member McCampbell, free resolutions.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line items 17.1 through 17.3.

Any objections?

Discussion.

With discussion, Member Miller.

Good morning.

Good morning, everyone.

How are you?

I just wanted to um read to the record a statement regarding the three proposals on 17.2, 17.3, and I'm sorry, 17.1.

I first wanted to say to my constituents that I represent.

I I usually investigate before I vote.

And I and I wanted to hear them confidence to know that I am not moved by hammering gavels or hollering statements regarding my vote or stance on any topic that I was elected to do duty for.

So with that, I would read my statement.

And I am even more satisfied with my statement after attending the conference in Mackinac.

Because our mayor, she made a made a bold move regarding Detroit, stating that poverty is one of the biggest issues that face Detroit.

Even though we're out of bankruptcy, we'll still we'll still have a stigma of poverty when it comes to certain ratings and certain levels.

And we know and we know that the key to poverty is you must invest in people.

And you must have a more capable workforce.

So with that being said, to prevent poverty, we have to find jobs for our Detroiters, and that means by any means necessary.

We have to provide incomes that allow them to take care of their families and their and their properties and pay taxes.

And that and that business start with us.

I am charged with helping to find jobs in Detroit.

Therefore, I just wanted to read into my statement regarding this issue.

It also went along with the tree trimming one that I was slow to response, had a definite stance, but because I knew I wanted to be correct.

So I would say regarding these three issues, after reviewing the materials submitted regarding the proposed EMS supplemental contracts and the Detroit Fire Department strategic planning framework.

Initially, Council was presented with a broad conceptual document centered around a 20-year vision for future fire station modernization apparatus employment and infrastructure planning.

While long-term planning is value, these documents were clearly conceptual in nature and should be defined as such.

Respectfully, over the course of 20 years, there will be approximately 20 separate budget cycles, four city council elections, and four mayoral election cycles, changing fiscal realities, evolving public safety demands, and entirely different operational priorities.

As a result, I find it unrealistic to present a 20-year operational vision with such certainty as though future administrations and future councils are somehow already obligated to follow this exact course.

One would almost have to be a visionary to confidently project what the city of Detroit's priorities, funding realities, and staffing levels and operational needs will look like two decades from now.

More importantly, however, the first two documents failed to directly answer the central operational concern repeatedly discussed face-to-face during budget conversations regarding whether the fire department intended to gradually or incrementally bring EMS services further in-house over time.

Provided the clearest and most honest picture of the Detroit Fire Department's actual occupational direction.

After reviewing that memorandum, my assessment became abundantly clear.

Instead, the memorandum clearly points toward continued long-term reliance on private EMS contracts as a city department fire department's preferred operational model moving forward.

Quite frankly, this is disappointing to read because face-to-face discussions previously gave the impression that bringing more EMS operations in-house was a realistic goal connected to Detroit jobs, workforce development, and strengthening internal public safety capacity.

However, the third memorandum ultimately clarified what the first conceptual document did not.

My concern is not whether EMS services are necessary.

They are absolutely necessary.

My concern is that the city continues to default towards private privatization and outsourcing instead of seriously committing to building a long-term internal public safety capacity within its own workforce.

Additionally, my staff and independent outside sources reviewed, identified, identified the incremental in-house EMS expansion concepts may be far more achievable than the Detroit Fire Department's memorandum suggests.

Unfortunately, those alternatives did not appear to have been seriously incorporated into the department's recommendation.

At this point, I believe it is fair to conclude that bringing EMS services sustainability sustainably in-house are not currently the fire department's priority anywhere in the near future.

Detroit residents deserve reliable EMS services.

They deserve city city genuinely committed to creating Detroit jobs, strengthening internal public safety operations, and investing in long-term operational self-sufficiency instead of defaulting to long-term outsourcing as a prepared solution.

If we are a city that is that is going to actively attack poverty, we must find ways to create Detroit jobs.

Every single time that I feel that we have the need, the power the power, and the potential to move in a direction.

And after a three-year revision from the documents submitted, there was not even one inclination that even after a third year period because it said it's staffing allows.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Oh, Member Waters.

All right.

I submitted a request to for an ordinance regarding the whole fee schedule.

Um so that people who are in the city who utilize the ambulance services will be charged that one fee.

And we would not go after them.

They need to accept whatever the city pays, the ambulance services along with whatever the private ambulance uh services uh get paid.

So I haven't received a response.

I at least wanted to know um how we protect our residents.

That is why I made that request anyway.

And I wanted an answer prior to my vote.

It's been a while, and I haven't I haven't seen it.

At least I figured we would have something um in in the um in line to at least help protect the residents, which are mainly senior citizens who use utilizes the services.

I haven't heard a single word.

I need to know something, uh Mr.

President.

I mean I mean, they must have some idea uh between LPD and the law department.

So to LPD law, and we got fire departments here here as well.

You want to go and respond to Member Waters' question.

Member Waters, why don't you submit that request?

Um, some when it first started, when we first started having these conversations for the most part, yeah.

Mr.

President, uh Mr.

Wood.

We we and LPD received the request about three weeks ago.

And I I know that before I went to before Mackinac, I had I had a conversation with my staff, and we were trying to figure out how to achieve what you were trying to get.

And I think we've come up with something, but it's not really really ready.

I know that it wasn't.

I haven't seen it this week, but but we'll get it to you as soon as we can.

But but uh we do have have uh a an approach.

We haven't discussed it at all with law.

And I think law should weigh in before we put to put it out of before I I really give you any specific verbally today, but we do have an idea and approach whether or not it would be ultimately fiscally responsible is a different question.

And I think we need to talk with you about it about our approach and certainly run it a past uh the law department before we bring it forward.

But I have I haven't seen a final draft yet.

As soon as I get that, I would I will be happy to share it with um question.

So, how could it be not fiscally responsible?

I mean, I mean, I would always say basically don't go after the residents for the additional dollars.

Yeah, accept the money uh uh that is paid.

Right, right.

So you so you would be foregoing any any additional funds.

Well, we don't get it anyway, do we?

I mean people just don't have the money anyway.

And this effect on the the private uh ambulance services would be an issue as well.

But as I as I indicated, rather than trying to explain to you to you now, I think it probably better for us to flesh it out completely and then bring it to you.

But we were we were not ready last week, I know.

And uh as I indicated, I haven't I haven't seen it this week.

I'm just trying to figure out how to protect the residents.

I mean we understand what you're doing.

At least since we we are not able to move it in-house right now because that's another fiscal issue.

Right.

So I figure in the immediate, we could do something to help protect our residents.

That that was the idea.

Mr.

President, we certainly understand your motive, what you're trying to do.

We're gonna do everything we can, but as I indicate, there are some hurdles, and we need to dot every eye and cross the T before we bring it forward.

Any additional to add to the load part?

Okay, thank you for remaining sure.

Um, thank you, Member Callaway, followed by Pro Tim.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I guess you all can remain there.

I initiated this conversation about a year ago because my father um had to use the ambulance service, and that's how this is and I hope you'll let me join you, um Member Waters.

Um I initiated this conversation a year ago because we personally experienced um almost experienced had I not intervened with them sending um my dad's ambulance bill to a third party bill collector and Jefferson, Ohio.

And I brought this up a year ago.

So I'm I'm I'm believing um that this conversation that we're having right now um triggered the conversation.

So I am always concerned what happens to um our seniors when they don't have some someone who can advocate on their behalf or be their voice.

We are taking advantage, and we're and we're allowing um these third parties to come into this city and take advantage of the least of them, and it's our seniors, and I and I will not be supporting these three contracts in any formal fashion.

I cannot.

Um, and we gotta do a better job of protecting our seniors, and we should not be they're on fixed income.

They're on a fixed income, and we just don't do good with taking care of our seniors.

And had it not been for my advocacy on my father's behalf, um they would have been trying to garnish his fixed income.

So we gotta work out um um some kind of way to keep this from happening.

We have to put a red flag on the bills for these for these seniors, and I believe it's something that the city can absorb.

Um and we should not be sending our our senior citizens to third party debt collectors, and they're harassing them.

They're harassing them.

Where are they gonna get the money from?

And everybody doesn't have an advocate, and and and we gotta be their voice.

So hopefully, in your research, um, Mr.

Um Whitaker, um, you can um include that.

Um that they that this city um put a stop to allowing these companies going going after these seniors who are on a fixed income.

So while you're doing that, please include that if that's possible, because that is what's triggering this entire conversation, which was initiated by me a year ago based on my own personal experience.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Whitaker.

Um thank you.

Um before I begin, uh I just I just wanted to say I think another reason why this is important needs to be mentioned is that we're talking about emergency service personnel and ambulances historically, this this was started by Freedom House in Pittsburgh by African American people.

So we're so we're talking about an industry that was created based on the innovations and history of black folks.

So I think that's another layer that we need to be sensitive about being the largest black city in America when we're dealing with this.

Because of that, we have to make sure that what we're going to do this that's done right.

Uh um my qu I I think there'd be a lot of good points by my colleagues.

I don't know if this would be to you, Mr.

Whitaker, as much as I like seeing you guys.

I don't think this is for you.

So if the if you as the administration would like to uh um discuss this, but from my understanding, one to purchase the ambulances, what is gonna take at least two to three years from my for my understanding first.

I'll I'm looking at these costs if I'm wrong correctly, but from the analysis that I have to purchase the ambulance is it's six to twelve million dollars.

The equipment and slash medical devices is three to seven million.

The EMS station upgrades is three to eight million.

The EOT paramedic hiring is eight to eighteen million.

The training academy is one to three million, we maintenance expansion is two to five million.

The dispatch modernization is two to four million.

And the legal administrative transition is one to two million.

That's not included the consultants.

Because you just can't wake up and say, Walla magic, you know, this EMS service is down municipalized.

I'm sure there's be a very complicated process.

I have now this is estimated.

I want to know does that match your your analysis?

And has there been an impact?

If so, what this would have on the budget.

Short term and long-term in terms of the other services that we provide currently and things that I would like to do in terms of social programs.

What impact of this had?

And if we did this, we we have to start looking at cutting the budget because of that.

Through the chair, uh Deputy Commissioner Derek Hellman.

Uh council put down those great questions and very valid points.

Um, we do see uh a significant increase to the budget.

Uh first foremost, uh the ink the timeline that you did laid out for the purchase of the ambulance is fairly accurate.

It's uh 18 months from the time of a contract signed, and with our purchasing um timeline here going through OCP, you can add another six months.

So that'd be approximately 24 months to engage and actually start receiving set ambulances.

Um staffing-wise, that is correct, about uh uh 10 to 11 million dollars.

So your your estimations are correct.

Um we estimate about approximately about a $50 million increase to the budget over four years.

Um, so the and that comes to mind exactly what you're saying is yes, yes, this would have to be a budget aligned item from the um mayor and from the city council to make sure that this does happen.

And um also I wanted to also state one other fact with these current contracts, they are to follow any policy pro uh procedures that we have implemented within the department.

So uh to count uh member Callaway's concerns is and uh member waters is if they are billed, they are to follow exactly what we do.

So if you guys do implement as a as a body this uh ordinance, they will have to follow that ordinance too.

So I just want to make sure that is stated too.

So we have several layers within these contracts, and within these contracts, we have the ability to decrease services within a 30-day notice.

So we we as a department would love to work with city council to move forward.

Now, here's my challenge that I would issue that I would lay out on the table here.

I I'm gonna support this, the three-year expansion.

I would like to see some metrics or a tracking system to see where your progress is in implementing this.

I think I think a Gantt chart would be appropriate.

Uh, I don't know if that's gonna be I would assume that would have to be on a uh uh uh dashboard.

You know, I I would prefer blockchain because you can't change it, but we're not gonna have that conversation about artificial intelligence right now.

But I think that for a lot of reasons, but but I think that that would be something that people can actually see so they can see the progress of where you're at and where you're going here.

Because I think we're all kind of on the same point in terms of municipalization.

I think it's just primarily how we do we do this, the timing of it, and the finances of it, so that we do this the right way so we can stand this up, but also that has the minimal amount of impact on the budget because there's other priorities that we're investing, whether it's property tax cuts, RX kids, whether you know, if you know, you know, I you know, of course I want everybody to support all my ideas, but I have you know, but I would like to see graduate uh guaranteed income, excuse me, at some point in time implemented.

I think we need to make sure that we do this the right way so that we have enough money to be able to afford those programs as well as stand this up, and so we're not in the situation where we're choosing programs, or we're not a situation where we're just cutting everything across the board.

That's worst case scenario, but that could be if we don't do this the right way.

But people need to be able to see the progress in that investment, and it needs to be transparent.

So if you have a GAT chart or something of that nature to be able to determine that, I would like to see that.

And I would also like to see uh uh taxpayer investment versus services provided that actually I'll send this to you, the actual metric, so people can see the dollars that I'm investing and what that is doing in terms of improving the service right now.

Privately, I'm looking at this as a first response time of six minutes and thirty seconds.

So if we're looking at investment, I think uh on average for tier one, I think it's less than eight minutes.

So I think that you know, where are we gonna be able to keep that response?

That's a 66 minutes and 30 seconds for the private EMS.

That's for 90% of it.

So are we gonna keep that?

Are we gonna invest?

I think the average is or the goal is what's like seven minutes and thirty or something like that.

So, what are we gonna hit towards that and how our dollars are investing towards any of that goal or better it?

So I'll see you this information, but other than that, I support the three year proposal, and I think this is something we need to do now.

We've been proposing we've been postponing this long enough, we need to act now.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Any further?

Yes, unless unless we're speaking in a different language.

I think I'm already requests what was just mentioned.

And in all the plans that I received, even in the 20 year plan, there was never a mention of implementing anything.

In fact, after three hours later, the third plan came through, it said that it is clearly not seen at this time.

And if I repeat the language correctly, it says they will they will continue to if need be or necessary or can find a way to make it happen, they will basically get back with us.

So that report is already been done, and I just want to say thank you.

We can move forward, but I just want to make it clear that we've already done that, and you've done your homework.

It was a great report.

Thank you.

And the third report is honesty.

I appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Colleagues, any further.

Um, member McCam.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, to speak on these, just to speak on the contracts.

I you all have heard me talk about um the need to move many services across the city in house.

Um, and we talked about this during committee.

We also talked about this during the budget session, not only about the contracts, but also um the low level of Detroiters that are currently even in the city employees with the fire department.

So I think there's a lot of issues at hand here.

Um that even if these contracts weren't to go were not to go through, uh, we still have an issue within our fire department of the number of Detroiters that are employed here.

Um so I just want to make that clear because that work needs to happen no matter what happens with these contracts, um, that we need to see more Detroiters employed by the fire department, and we need to see if these contracts do go through more Detroiters with the contracts uh with the contractors, and it's my understanding that they have signed a um priority hiring agreement.

Um that's my understanding there.

I also would say I agree with my colleagues on the charges with uh our residents and and and we have that power here at the uh table with council, and I've already indicated to member waters that I'm in full support of that as well, because on the other side of the medical care, our residents should not be uh charged for things that they should not that they cannot afford.

As I looked at the as I look at these contracts, though, and that's the pro term brought up.

If we were to deny these and go to hire folks and um order the ambulances, we'll still be at a two-year lag.

Um, and the folks who are directly impacted by that are the residents that are dependent on uh getting that EM EMS, the service from EMS.

So that is what I do in the uh in front of my mind here on that direct impact to our residents.

And I will be honest, this is not a great place to be in.

Um I I would say, well no, any private contractor on a public service is not something that I take joy in.

Uh what I'll also say is that if these contracts are to go through, and I'll vote in support of them, but I I'm gonna say this to fire department administration.

Um, one is that through PHS, we've already actually core lead updates, and I think what member Miller and Pro Tum Young has laid out is that those are the things that we would like to see in PHS.

I'll also say when we come to the capital agenda and also the next budget, um, it would be very uh disappointed if we don't see um actions to actually work to start to bring this in house because those are if we're saying there's a budgetary concern, well let's talk about that and handle that in the budget as well, and with the capital agenda on whether it needs to house this as well.

The other thing I would say is that um if there is not for me, this is me uh speaking personally, because in three years uh we still would be in this term it would I I will not vote for any other type of uh private contract moving forward um because as mentioned, this was supposed to be temporary.

I understand the position that the fire department is in now, but we shouldn't be in the space right now.

And I will be making a vote in support purely because um our residents depend on getting quality and timely service when they have our emergency.

So I just want to lay that out, but also put that charge uh to the fire department and administration as well.

That we have to see for myself, I want to see substantial uh work to get us to a place where we no longer need these contracts moving forward.

So thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to say very briefly, I understand this is a longer conversation that needs to happen.

Um as we move forward to really sit down and synthesize how we get where we'd like to be in the future.

I want to ensure that you all are also putting putting in place a system that provides greater support, training for residents of the city of Detroit to become firefighters.

Um I have a niece who attempted the process.

Um she wanted to be uh an EMT.

Uh she didn't know about the the firefighter training to do both.

Um so I think it's important to make sure that we are in the schools, that we that we are connecting with residents, helping them to understand where the process is and really ushering them through that process.

If there is some type of academy that you all have had in the past to work directly with our young people in the city of Detroit because this this whether it is outsourced or there are folks folks who work for the Detroit fire department, if they don't live in the city of Detroit, is six in one hand, a half dozen in the other.

I I think that's the most the most problematic part for me for me.

Um so just like the police department has uh um put in place gone to the state to charge people for going through the academy and then leaving the department, something has to be put in place with the fire department that is akin to that to ensure that we are using Detroit tax dollars to to employ Detroit residents.

Um, and so that's where I've stood, and that's where I continue to stand recognizing that I don't want to see a lapse in support for anyone who's calling an ambulance to come and address uh um a serious issue that they have, but but knowing where we want to be, I think um this deserves a lot of attention, a lot of uh um details that have to be hammered out in order for us to bring this in-house.

Um, and I'm sure those conversations will continue to happen after after today.

Um, at every budget hearing that we have, whether it's from the next the next fiscal year up until 20 years from now, um, I'm sure those conversations will continue to happen.

So look forward to hearing more and being involved in the Detroit aspect of employing Detroiters to become firefighters as we continue.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um I could be wrong, but I think 66 to 70 percent of the firefighters don't live in the city, it's not a requirement.

Um I understand that they are they are trained now at school craft college, if I'm not mistaken.

Is that is that correct?

Through the chair, no ma'am.

They don't have to take their physical test.

That's not true.

Let me let me uh comment on that.

I apologize.

I think it has a certain name.

So the initial test that uh individual needs to take to get hired with the fire department is called the CPAT, the CPA, the CPAT test that CPAT test is administrated at school craft college and also at Grand Rapids Fire Department.

Um we had done it in the past.

Um we we want to bring that back in-house, and and we are going to look at uh doing that in the future.

Yeah, um through the chair, we need to bring that back.

There's no reason for our firefighters who don't really don't get here anyway.

I wish I wish they did.

I mean, I could fight for them a little more.

I could be more of an advocate, but that but that test has no business being uh um in Lavonia and school and school craft, it has always been in the city of Detroit, and it's 250.

And I understand I'm talking to firefighters.

I'm I'm at the stations, I'm getting this information from them.

So that so that test is in Lavonia at school craft college, and it is 250 dollars a pop.

And if they flop, they have to have to pay another 250 dollars.

If they flock, they have to pay another 250 dollars.

And that and that could be a barrier.

Do you think it could it could be a barrier for transportation to even get to Lavonia when it shouldn't be in their own backyard?

We did we did have a training um uh building right on warrant, it's dilapidated, it's overgrown with weeds and trees, but I remember going there.

I remember seeing I remember seeing the the equipment for them for them to get the training.

So I am going to insist that that come back.

I spoke to the president, um, Dr.

Curtis, Ivy Curtis of Wayne County Community College about a week ago, and they are willing, they are willing, they're prepared to make any adjustments and provisions to bring that training back to the city of Detroit and will provide the space.

So there's so there's no reason why I would say within a year or less that that training is not brought back to the city of Detroit and brought back from Lavonia where it shouldn't have gone in the first place.

And it should not be 250 dollars a pop, and if they plant, they have to keep paying that 250.

There should be something that we that we can do to assist them.

And if they maybe have it, if they pay the 250 have give them another opportunity to take the test and not charge them.

But um, there's a lot of problems, and when you talk to the firefighter, they will tell you.

That's why I can't support these contracts um that are before us today because the three years is going to end up being six years, ten years, and some of us won't even be on the council, and there'll be no recollection of these conversations.

But I am going to insist uh um that the training the training come back to the city.

Wayne County Community College, um and we not charge so much for it.

Because they're making money off off of our students, and that's probably why and I can go into some more details based on some facts, but I won't.

But I but I will continue to insist that that uh training come back to the city at Wayne County Community College, and the president is willing to make some accommodations to make that happen.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You're gonna give you an opportunity to respond.

Hold on one second.

Hold on one second.

And we do want to bring this to a close.

Everyone an opportunity to respond, ask questions.

But we do want to still move on to our agenda.

Give you an opportunity.

Member Miller, anyone else have any additional questions, concerns, issues you want to raise.

Uh you'll be the last voice member miller after we get the response from the fire department.

And through the chair, uh thank you so much for council president.

I I totally agree with what member Kellowa is saying about uh the CPAT test coming back to the through the fire department, and we do want to move that direction, but I would do want to clarify that all the all the training that a person comes for to the department for for their EMT for their firefighter, all that training is done in-house.

So if a fi a person comes in with a um they're 18 years old, have a valid driver's license, and they come here, we we put them through all the training they need to become an EMT and a firefighter.

The department is dedicated to making sure that our residents are well trained that come to this department and able to provide that emergency care that all the citizens and visitors deserve.

Thank you.

If I just want to say that um I want to thank my colleagues for bringing bringing their concerns to the table today, I have just made an additional list of 175 million dollars for the fire department, and there is no oversight.

That's 175 million dollars where there once was before the pandemic, I mean before bankruptcy, there was oversight.

The firefire advisory council, I will continue to advocate for that.

It's like the BOPC.

We have a BLPC for oversight.

That's a lot that's a lot of money where we have no say.

And I think the community, the council needs to be able to weigh in on certain things at that amount of money, 175 million dollars again with no oversight.

So I think that is one of our biggest problems if we have someone that can continually uh uh have meetings monthly, even monthly meetings to discuss some of the issues that we're concerned with would not be here today.

I know I know most of you have been here longer than I have and have dealt with this issue uh um ongoing.

And and I just wanted to say that that is a I would ask everyone to look into looking to the uh fire department advisory council coming back so we can so we can help um allocate funds where we believe it can it can assist with the fire department commission to um design designate some of these things moving forward.

Thank you.

Thank you to the chair.

Thank you.

There's a motion on the floor currently.

I just want to make uh uh through this through the council president to the chair.

Just want to make one final comment on behalf of the fire department.

This fire department and its members care immensely about the city and the visitors.

We want to do the best that we can to service everybody in uh in a great manner.

When I say when I say that, it we want to meet with each individual city council member to make sure you guys understand the vision and the path that we want to lay forward for the department, and we're really looking forward to having these conversations because we haven't in the past.

And we're really looking forward to having these conversations because we haven't in the past.

So this so this is something that's been brought to light and and we're really excited to have these conversations.

I know we committed to doing quarterly updates at uh public health and safety, and we're gonna do that.

We want to bring a gant chart Council Pro town for you so that we can actually lay out a vision and be able to be able to work with each individual council member moving forward.

Thank you.

It's currently a motion on the floor, colleagues, for approval for nine items 17.1 through 17.3.

Member Calloway indicated she has a motion as well.

Mr.

Chair, do you want to take the vote on that and then I can uh motion?

Yeah, we're written in process now.

I don't know.

That's that's why I opened it up.

It's not it's not right.

There is a there is a motion again on the floor, Colleen to approve of the line items 17.1 through 17.3.

Are there any objections?

Objection, member Callaway.

Objection objection, Member Merrill.

All right, madam clerk.

Mr.

Mr.

President, the motion passes six Jays.

Who knows?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Line item 17.1 through 17.3, so stand approved.

Member Callaway.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Um Chair.

Um, I'd like to make a motion for the um for the establishment of the fire department advisory council.

Um and I I don't know if that needs to be made here.

Um I can certainly support member miller and writing the uh memorandum to LPD through the chair to LPD, the establishment of the fire department advisory council.

I do not know if that's the proper name.

Um Mr.

Chair, I believe Mr.

Mr.

Coming up, Mr.

President.

Establishment of the uh uh advisory council would be would be a mayoral function.

So you could prepare you can you can you can request that we prepare a strong resolution strongly encouraging the mayor to do so, but that but that would be your option option.

Mr.

Chair, that would be my motion that that resolution that strongly drafted resolution be drafted by LPD, which would um we and our with member miller to get that memorandum to you making that request for that strong resolution to the administration.

There's a motion on the floor, colleagues, any objections say none that action shall be taken.

And Mr.

Chair, my next motion is for the yes, sir for the test, the physical test, I think is called the impact CPAC to be brought back to the city of Detroit.

So um that is my motion.

I will draft the memorandum and and that will be done through LPD via a resolution.

A strong resolution urging uh um that that test be brought back to the city.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

That is my motion.

There's a motion on the floor, colleagues with discussion.

I would also ask uh in that in a memo uh if we can identify why the test was uh uh switch from uh Detroit Fire to well, maybe we just asked the question now.

Why was it uh switch from Detroit Fire to uh school?

Good afternoon.

Um chief of staff, Elisa Millel, Detroit Fire Department.

Um it was in the city, and we had to remove it due to construction at the airport.

So we always had a commitment for it, uh had a location, and actually a councilwoman I really want to lift up working with her team and looking at some sites that they sent over to be helpful for us to look at the training and also working with the mayor's office on uh potential funding and what that would what that pipeline would look like because ideally we would love to have the CPAT in the city.

We've heard the same expos from our members or um individuals that are applying uh for the fire for the fire department.

It is a big obstacle.

We we definitely hear that.

And that's by finding the location, getting the funding and and building that pipeline back up again is definitely a priority.

We have uh Deputy Commissioner Stokes who's not here.

That is uh a big big initiative that he has focused on.

We're looking at the school, so thank you again, councilwoman.

Um so we will definitely in our updates come back and let you know uh what we have and uh uh the the the the timeline for that because that is very important that we've heard it too.

Thank you, thank you.

Uh any further approach on that motion.

Oh no, no, not what on the motion?

No, member water?

No, no, no, no.

I'm sorry.

All right, there's a motion on the floor, colleagues for the resolution.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

I pro Tim Young, followed by member one.

Mr.

Whitaker, I didn't I just wanted to ask you really quickly just for the audience, just to understand.

I just want you to kind of explain to us that residency or police officers, firefighters, emergency service personnel not living in the city.

That's a state law that passed in 1999, correct?

So it's not something the city can do something the state took from the city.

Just briefly note verse.

It's all documentary.

Compel its employees to stay within the city limits were eliminated due to a passage of a state law.

So until that law gets repealed, you don't have the option to force please for fire any employees to stay within the city limits.

They can stay within I think 25 mile radius of the city, but but you can't compel them to stay within the city.

So people should call their state legislators and leaders in order to change that law.

Correct.

So make sure we make a real quick that was initiated by fire department, correct?

Uh uh, I know it was either fire or police.

It may have been both.

Okay, so I just want to make sure we set the record 100% correct.

There's other partners that we need in this fight if that's the case.

That's the direction we want to go in.

All right.

All right.

Um member Waters.

Uh so thank you.

Uh and the pro Tim.

Uh uh, yes, we we know the days that we raised that issue a lot uh during our tenure in Lansing.

And um wasn't going anywhere.

In fact, um passed, there were huge advocates from both police and fire to do to do exactly that.

They were the strongest advocacy advocates for residency uh themselves.

And that's and that's why so many of them don't live in the city yet to this day.

Um so um but but what I wanted to say, first of all, I I do want to acknowledge the fact that Member Callaway um brought this issue up over a year ago whenever whenever that was the last time that we voted these contracts.

Uh uh I I do want to acknowledge that.

The the other thing is that I I kind of want to know because the information that you all sent around to member Miller's point, there was just no clear-cut vision in terms of how you're going to bring this in-house.

The the the scary thing about it is that is that oftentimes people get these jobs and then they move out of the city.

You know, you know.

Um, so I don't know what incentives we have to keep people here when we hire them.

You know, you know, we need people here in the city paying income tax.

That's what we need.

We don't want them to get a job here, and then oh, this is an opportunity for me to move to the suburbs.

And it happens more often than not.

Um, so the other thing I just I wanted to do is Mr.

Um President was to just make a motion for a uh biannual report uh from the department that shows us uh the progress that you're making to bring things in-house and to create uh uh uh city jobs as it relates to the fire department.

Can you can you do that?

That is my motion.

There's a motion on the floor, colleagues.

Any objection?

Any objection with this with discussion, member McCow.

Thank you, uh Mr.

Chair.

And I'm I'm in support, but I just to know that's what I had in vision for though.

That's what we had in vision for the quarterly reports of what PHS is well.

Oh, oh, you said quarterly you've done that already, quarterly reports.

No, that's what we had to say.

Okay, well then I can withdraw mine.

Okay, colleagues, any further.

All right, thank you.

All right, thank you so much.

Okay, Mr.

Chair.

Um, member McCamp.

Just gonna we're gonna treat uh there's been a request for a waiver on 17.1 through 17.3.

Are there any objections?

Objection, member calloway objection, member miller as well.

All right, that fail fails.

All right, madam clerk.

Uh uh under resolution.

Council member McCampbell, a resolution, noting that this line item was postponed from last week's formal session.

And also and also, Mr.

President, with this line item, I would like to say that that line item 18.11 is also the same item.

However, this this one was postponed in line item 18.11 was moved yesterday.

And to my understanding, the resolution had been amended.

So for point of clarity, the postponed resolution that came back from last week may not have the corrected resolution.

Okay.

Um member McCampbell have not had an opportunity to review it.

That's one that was not proper.

But it looks like there may have been an additional document provided according to the code.

Yeah, uh through you, Mr.

Chair.

Yes.

So there was we did um have an amended version of the resolution um that was submitted, it just was not uploaded.

It was just it was not there with 17.4.

So if whatever is the proper way, I'm I'm happy to move 17.4 as amended.

Um, and then we can remove the other line item if that is okay.

Okay, okay.

Uh uh, if we can first, madam clerk, and we can remove line item eighteen point eleven from the agenda that we clear it off the board.

Is there a motion council motion to remove 18.11?

That is the resolution that was just mentioned.11.

Any objections none that the action shall be taken.

And we jump back to line item 17.4, um, member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, move to approve as amended with discussion.

There's a motion as a motion to approve line item 17.4 is amended for discussion.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I just want to know um as folks heard during public comment and the reasoning and importance behind this resolution.

Just to note that this resolution is one that is um that has been worked on in US Congress, um, and also here on the state level in Michigan, uh spearheaded by representative Stephanie Young.

And just want to give uh kudos and appreciation to Shawan of Bond and the Silent Cry organization.

When I think about the need around this resolution, I mean folks have heard about um folks who are directly impacted in our criminal legal system.

It is said that if folks are incarcerated, that it's supposed to be in a way to rehabilitate and to for folks to come back into society, um, and and be great members of society.

But we know now folks who are incarcerated and who are impacted by the justice system, um that does not happen.

And many of those services are not there for folks, and they then come back into society society lacking the things and services and uh that they need.

Um, and this resolution speaks to that.

Um, there is a resolution as I mentioned on the state level uh legislation to um require screenings and and to start to do that work.

Um, but this resolution just says that the city uh the city council and the city of Detroit strongly supports policies that provide comprehensive services to those formally incarcerated through trauma focused therapy, stable housing, and social support, sustained use treatment and re-entry programs.

And it's my um hope that folks who are listening, uh folks on my colleagues, um, that we share that desire that this is something needed to ensure that we have increased public safety, but also that we're just taking care of our residents um no matter what they have gone through.

So that is what I want to put forth here with this resolution and and again uh appreciation to folks who are working with folks who are formerly incarcerated and folks who just want to ensure that they um have a better quality of life than before.

So thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you thank you.

Uh approaching you.

Thank you.

I just want to say this is phenomenal.

Uh uh resolution.

I I I just want to ask just out of curiosity.

One is this something that is why people are in the prison the prison, or is this when they get out?

Is it is it both?

Is this is this also an item that people would use involving uh reparations for for African American people?

And does this also include black people who are wrong wrongfully convicted?

And I know this I know there's a lot, but I just got a lot of questions.

Also, does this is this something that's just in the prison, or is this include uh uh traumatic stress for for police brutality before they they get in there as well.

I I I I just kind of want to know because this I'm looking at this, and that's where my mind is going with with all this type of stuff.

Because this is really needy.

Member McKenna.

Thank you.

I thank you, Pro Tim, for those questions.

So in the in the spirit of this resolution is for folks who are uh currently incarcerated and formally incarcerated.

So in a in the way of making sure that while folks are incarcerated, that those services are there for folks, as we heard around mental health, um, around just having as I'm as you are coming out uh to have the things in place so that you can re-enter society with what you need, and also as you are formally incarcerated, that ongoing support there.

The things that you brought up, though, right?

The impacts of uh police brutality, wrongfully convicted, also the way that uh black folks have been treated by the legal system.

And I think that is all of part of the conversation that should be had and continue.

But um this resolution is specific to folks who are incarcerated and formerly incarcerated and the experiences and the trauma that they may uh incur while incarcerated and also coming out.

And I just wanted to say it this is fine if it is, but but I just wanted to say is this focus just for people who are color who are in the prison system, or is this also about migrant migrants as well?

It's it's her ice cream.

It's hers to be held in these facilities.

I've seen some of these children who can't even recognize their parents after they've been held.

Is that does that include that?

Is that a longer term plan?

Or is that something that will be handled separately by a different organization, a different mission?

For you, Mr.

Chair.

I would say to get to the specifics that may need an additional conversation, additional action.

Because um if you in the resolve, this will go to the state legislature and the Michigan Department of Corrections.

Um so we may miss, we're probably missing the federal aspect, especially around ICE, but happy to work together on that as well.

No, no, excellent.

And I'll find you.

No, thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

President.

I'm sorry.

And uh I I'll and I'll find this out on my own.

But I've got to believe that that the costs that this type of damage is done to black folks from the lease reconstruction post-siving award now has to be extensive.

And so I mean I I can only imagine what that number is, but it has to be a large number.

So it's so do some research on it.

Otherwise, I support this.

I think it's a great piece of uh legislation and look forward to pointing for it.

And I was wondering uh if I could join you on thank you, thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion on the floor for approval.

Any objections any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

There's also a request for joining it by Timmy.

He's been here for quite some time.

We have a number of items that are on the agenda before we hit 18.5, and I believe that you're here for 18.5.

We can we can uh head to that line items we can get him out of here and get back to get back to taking care of the city.

Uh Mr.

President, yes, yes, ma'am.

You we are going to 18.5 first, so that's where we're going.

Yes, yes, ma'am.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes, ma'am.

This is this is to the law department from the law department, excuse me.

Council member McCampbell in introduction of an ordinance, noting that this line item was reported out of committee without recommendation.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I move that the ordinance be read twice by title, order printed and laid on the table.

With discussion.

First AC, and then you hear you want to provide some comments.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Honorable council president, uh, in this entire body.

Uh just wanted to uh make a point of clarity is there have been a lot of concerns in the media regard regarding why uh this is in place and the cause of it.

This is not uh in response to what's been trending nationally as these team takeover events.

This is this is our annual ask as it relates to the fireworks.

This is a one-day uh uh curve curfew, uh superseding curfew, with the exception of if the original original plan date, which is June 22nd, is impacted by weather.

Then it then it would then carry over into the next day that the event is held.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any further any further?

Um member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to ask the clerk know that that was supported out without recommendation.

Um, just wanted to give insight to that discussion for colleagues here.

Um as we discuss that committee, there um, and I'll speak for myself, but also in discussion concerns around the impact of this curfew, especially around 16 and 17 year olds, um, especially this being at 8 p.m.

Um and lights still being out.

Um and understanding that there are different dynamics that come up with our youth that uh we know parents are at work.

Um I understand that the ordinance does have responsible adults, but we also know in our city that uh 16 and 17 year olds are also helping to run the household while their parents are away.

So um that is uh for me on the reporting out of without recommendation, but one to make sure that we as this is a timely matter um that we advance this so we can have the public hearing to discuss this further.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any further any further colleagues?

Seeing none, there's a motion on the floor for approval.

Line item 18.5.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Um clerk, we could go ahead and close it out from the law department for lineup 18.6.

Council member McCampbell, a resolution set in a public hearing.

Um thank you.

Um motion to approve the set of appropriate hearing of the date to be determined.

There's a motion to approve line item 18.6 for a date to be determined.

Any of any objections?

None that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you all.

Uh uh, Mr.

Washington.

Is it possible to request a waiver on item 18.5 request for a waiver?

Um request a waiver motion request a waiver.

I don't think we need one.

Okay, yeah, all right.

No, no, no, no, I got you, I got your I got you everybody.

Uh member Benson.

I I didn't think so either.

Didn't know we know why it was being requested.

This is going through the Mr.

Mr.

Washington, what is your understanding of why the need is this is a uh setting of a public hearing.

So nothing was approved, but the setting of the public hearing through the chair, the request was just in case for noticing purposes for the clerk's office.

From the mayor as well.

So just wanted to factor that in.

Okay.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Is there a motion?

You don't have to.

There's no one that's gonna move it out because I can't.

Mr.

President.

Uh uh, Madam Clerk.

Yes, yes, if I may ask, um what the time Monday, June 22nd, just for point of clarity, this item without a waiver will not go before the mayor until at the earliest next Monday, which is June the 8th.

From that point, the mayor has seven days to approve from June the 8th, which which will put um her approval can go up to the 15th.

At that point, this uh must be noticed within five days.

So you really will be may not have enough time for public hearing to happen prior to June 22nd without a waiver.

Discussion further further discussion, Jimber Johnson, followed by uh by member McCamp.

Thank you, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So is the I I need some clarification because the question is more about when the public hearing is held um and moving it forward.

So is the notice requirement for the public hearing a set number of days prior prior to the public hearing taking place?

That is that is correct.

And so would the the focus be more on the date of the public hearing that I believe um the committee should probably set today today, um, and then that's move forward perhaps with the waiver.

Clerk if the date, Mr.

President, do you being that date um finding words scheduled the 22nd of June?

June that is a Monday today today as the second.

This item will not go before the mayor until June the 8th.

There is a seven-day window automatically for her approval, which could put it at May.

June June, excuse me, June the 15th for her approval date.

You only the hearing the um you get from the 15th to the 22nd, that is only one week when you will have to have a public hearing published and set within a week.

That will not be enough time to do so.

So even if the date is determined today, just say they wanted the public hearing to be to be June the 15th, it won't go to the mayor until again next Monday without a waiver.

And there is a seven-day window.

There is no guarantee that the mayor will approve it.

The next day she has until seven days.

Just to be safe with the waiver, will allow this to go to the mayor tomorrow for for her approval.

And when it's approved, then you have a much bigger window to schedule a public hearing between now and the 20 seconds.

Discussion.

Further discussion on the Johnson floor remains you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I I think the confusion is around the approval by the mayor.

So what would the mayor approve at this point if the public hearing has not taken place?

Mr.

President, to you the member Johnson, the mayor will approve every every item that this body approves as well as you approve it.

Any item that is approved by this body today that has a waiver will go before the mayor tomorrow.

The items that are full today without a waiver will not go to the mayor until next Monday.

And and so the timing between now and then, even setting a date.

The date still would need to coincide with the approval of a mayor.

Because if you if I if they don't get a waiver today, the clerk office will not be able to send anything to the legal news for publication without the approval of the mayor coming back anyway.

So if it goes out today as yes, we won't be able to publish it until the mayor sends us her approval.

And we and we can't send it to her without a waiver prior to next Monday after after four o'clock PM.

Thank you.

Attorney Anderson.

Realistically, we gotta have the public hearing on the 15th.

Um I I have no objection to a waiver or not a waiver, either way.

I think that's just the reality of it.

Of course, though I know uh Councilmember McCampbell has uh graciously pinched hit for Councilmember Santiago Ramiro during public health and safety, so I was not trying to jam him and his very talented staff with anything like that.

But I think that is the reality that we're gonna have to have the public hearing on uh the 15th.

Yeah, and uh if I could do anything else to help make that as smooth as possible, please let me know.

Thank you.

Uh uh member Benson, followed by Member McCown.

Uh further discussion, this is for me is a point of um point of order.

Unless I'm mistaken, this is this is a legislative process.

I'm not I'm not aware uh of any body other than this body approving public hearings.

Approving approved contracts ordinances, yes.

But the but the process of setting a public hearing, if I'm not mistaken, is solely within the jurisdiction of this body.

Well, I understand the request for a waiver and the intent, unless it's required to move this process along.

I do not support that.

If this is a legislative process, and we must stay within the legislative body, unless unless I'm mistaken, the setting of a public hearing is our purview.

And there is no need for a waiver.

If I'm not mistaken, by statute, the earliest that a public hearing could be held would be the 9th of June, and it could be held in this space, which which would further expedite this property.

But to request a waiver to me is just it's procedurally improper.

And I do not support that.

So I I mean I I guess the other question is while it may not be statutory, is there any thing that prohibits this body from putting putting the waiver on?

That's that's really the question.

I mean, that's not so much if it's mandatory, if it's necessary, but this body has the does this body have the ability if it's so desired to do so.

Mr.

Just Chair, is that directed towards yes, sir.

Okay, yes, sir.

Mr.

President.

Mr.

President.

That would be within your prerogative for the night you want a waiver.

Put a waiver on an item.

I don't think it's necessary.

But but if you want to do it, it seems like it was satisfied the clerk.

The clerk is looking at me with dagger eye.

So I don't know, you know, certainly I don't think it would hurt if it's the council's desire to have the public hearing and it would facilitate having the public hearing.

I don't I don't see any any harm in a waiver in a waiver.

But the necessity of the waiver, I agree.

I agree with everything Mr.

Benson said.

I think I think it texts it.

But but I I agree with him anyway.

I mean, it's not it's not a requirement.

It is it is within your prerogative set uh uh public hearings on a matter squarely before council.

All right, member Benson, the floor remains yours, sir.

And I'll just continue to say I I understand the intent why we're gonna expedite this, but it's unnecessary, and I just believe it's procedurally improper, and it's just a slippery slope to try to allow the administration to have a say in our procedures, where the administration would not allow this body to have a say in their procedures, and they've made that clear several times.

So I hope that we will keep the two separate and hold our own processes here close to our chest and guard with a great level of jealousy.

All right, member McCamp.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I agree uh with Member Benson was not gonna request a waiver, but I do have a question.

Um, if this is for uh Mr.

Whitaker on the setting the date, or this is for um Mr.

President.

I know we said uh date to be determined, but would it be proper for us to reconsider and actually set a date for next Tuesday?

I think that's what is being requested.

Um Madam Clerk indicated that would be helpful her and her team for certain.

Yes, Mr.

Whitaker.

It's a matter of publication.

You have to publish, and then you can only do it five days after publication.

So the question is how quickly can it be published?

And I think that's what uh Madam Clerk was indicating.

She needs enough lead time to get it to get it to the to the legal news so it can be published because you can't have the public hearing until five days is expired.

So that would rush.

But as Mr.

Benson says, if they're looking to have a public hearing, you can have the public hearing at a formal session.

You don't have to have it in committee, although I think that's the that's the desire.

I I got a little hand in that too.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.

But but it is feasible, it's feasible to do that.

Whether you want to do that or not, it's up to you.

I would just uh this is my first time doing it.

Uh I would just defer to you um, Mr.

President, on what you'd like to do for whether we have it during a formal session or having a committee.

The goal for me is just that we can have the conversation and get this executed within the time frame that's necessary.

So um it allows us to it allows us to move forward if we're looking for the the ninth.

I can have it on the ninth.

That's not a problem.

It's just what uh we have a number of presentations that's happening on the ninth.

So be prepared for a long day and I'm gonna believe do are we looking at the closed session on the ninth as well, which is now moved to the 16th.

The 16th, okay.

So we may give us a little breathing.

Okay.

But you mr.

President, I I would just say, or this is a question for the clerk or uh Mr.

Wicker, uh are all the motions proper so far, or do I need to go back and change anything?

No, Mr.

Whitaker.

We're fine, trade.

Yeah, I think he wanted to hear from you, Mr.

Witter, but he gave him the thumbs up.

All right, correct.

Okay.

Thank you.

All right.

But I think there's so we're not looking to put a date on it right now.

Mr.

Chair.

Um Member Johnson.

I'm not sure if the clerk's office would like to chime in, but if we're considering the ninth, it would have to be in the afternoon after now on the ninth, depending upon when they can actually get the notice out, if not the ninth, then the 15th during PHS.

Madam Clerk, how does that affect your notice requirement?

Just so we can post this one up.

If we do it on the case, then I believe the 15th um would be okay.

The ninth we can attempt, but there's no guarantee that we will be able to have it published and everything prior to next Tuesday, depending on why I'm reaching out to the legal news.

Okay.

So I think we can just keep it keep things how they are.

It's looks like we will be able to achieve what we're looking to achieve without t touching or breaking anything.

Member McCampbell, the floor remains yours, sir.

If you have any additional motions.

I know they should let us know this stuff beforehand.

There's no additional motion.

I I will be I'm fine with the 15th.

Um we can handle that in PHS.

Uh and yeah, that's it.

Thank you.

Right.

So do you want to put the the date for the 15th?

All right.

Well, I have to reconsider that but it's super seeds.

But just a motion for the public hearing to be on uh June 15th at 1045.

AM.

That's for line item 18.6.

Colleagues, there's a motion for the public hearing to take place uh in PHS on the uh 15th of June.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

All right, let's uh climb back up the agenda, madam clerk.

I think that's 17.5.

Nope, 18.1.

Um, we will now move to the new business portion of the agenda for the office of contracting and procurement.

Councilmember McCampbell for resolutions, line items 18.1 through 18.4, contract number 6005416-A1, 100% city funding, amendment one to provide a two-year renewal for permitting and licensing software system, including subscription, bakedness, and hosting services, contractor at Sela Incorporated.

Total contract amount 5,183, 224 and 22 cent.

That's from BC.

Contract number 6005793-86, 100% ARPA funding, amendment six to provide an extension of time and an increase of focus for the basement backup protection program in phase two.

Contractor More Brothers Plumbing and Heating L C total contract amount one million six thousand eight hundred forty-seven dollars and seventy-seven cents.

That's for water and sewage.

Contract number six zero zero seven eight two six, one hundred percent major street funding to provide bitumist surface removal melee, air related construction services, contractor, georgie concrete LLC, major contracting group joint venture, total contract amount six million nine hundred thirteen thousand, twenty-eight dollars and eighty-seven cent.

That's for public works and contract number six zero zero four three four one-a-2, one hundred percent city funding, amendment two exercise renewal years for power plus investigation service package contractor lease on line LLC total contract amount one million one hundred thirty-four thousand seven hundred thirty-four dollars.

That's for police.

Councilmember McCampbell, four resolutions.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you.

Motion to approve.1 through 18.4, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Uh member McCampbell.

Request will work on 18.2 and 18.3.

As a request for a waiver on line items 18.2 and 18.3, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none.

Waiver should be attached.

From the Office of the Chief Financial Officer, Office of Development and Grants, line item 18.7 through 18.10, Madam Club.

Councilmember McCampbell for resolutions, line items 18.7 through 18.10.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh, motion to approve.

These are all various grants and application for grant.

It's a motion to approve line items 18.7 through 18.10.

Colleagues, any objection?

See none.

Mr.

Drift shall be a taken.

Member McCampbell.

Request a waiver on 18.7 through 18.10.

I'm sorry, which one?

18 18.7 through 18.10.

There's a request for a waiver on line items 18.7 through 18.10, colleagues.

Any objections?

Seeing none, waiver should be attached.

Dealt with line item 18.11.

So under resolutions, madam clerk.

Councilmember McCampbell on behalf of Council President James Tate, a resolution.

Line item 18.12.

Member McCampbell.

Motion to approve.

Thank you so much.

There's a motion to approve line item 18.12.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

Thank you so much, colleagues, for that.

For the president's report on stand uh before we do that, we have number of walk-ons, madam clerk.

Number of walk-ons today.

And then we do have one walk-on that we requested recognizing June as gun violence awareness month.

Done that traditionally in the past.

We also have walk on for a resolution in support of let there be light gateway.

And then we have walk on for uh drafting of a bubble zone ordinance uh for health clinics.

Then finally, the last one I have in front of me is a walk on uh recognizing June as LGBTQ plus Pride Month.

Clerk, do you have any additional no Mr.

President?

I have to say before you have okay.

Thank you so much.

Colleagues, is there a motion to walk these items on to new business for a vote?

Motion objections, then action shall be taken.

Madam Clerk.

Mr.

President, we'll take um the one for you first.

Council member McCampbell on behalf of council president Tate a resolution, clarifying June as gun violence awareness month.

Thank you so much.

Member McCampbell.

Motion to approve.

As a motion to approve the walk on recognizing June as gun violence awareness month.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Um member McCamp.

I would love to join you on this.

Absolutely.

Um clerk, if you please note, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Madam Clerk.

Next item.

Council Member Whitfield Callaway, a resolution.

As a resolution in support of Let There Be Light Gateway, Member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Discussion?

Uh with discussion.

Um, thank you so much, Mr.

Chair, and thank you, Madam Clerk.

Let there be light gateway.

Um, the resolution has been drafted by LPD.

Um, whereas in 2025, the Eight Mile Boulevard Association in partnership with the cities of Detroit, Oak Park, and Southfield launched the Let There Be Light Gateway crowdfunding campaign to transform the Eight Mile Greenfield Gateway.

And whereas the Eight Mile Boulevard Association is a 501c3 nonprofit organization founded in 1993 with the mission to revitalize and promote eight mile road by helping to strengthen and improve the neighborhoods and businesses along the boulevard.

And whereas the Let There Be Light Gateway initiative is an effort to improve the safety of the gateway where Greenfield Road passes below eight-mile road for drivers and pedestrians, while also improving the appearance by incorporating vibrant lighting that can be programmed in different colors and patterns for holidays and sporting events, and whereas, according to the Eight Mile Boulevard Association, this intersection is traveled by over a hundred thousand people on a daily basis.

And the lighting project is meant to complement the significant investment in businesses and housing in the surrounding area by improving the safety, aesthetics, and identity of the area, and whereas the community raised funds for this project under the Michigan Economic Development Corporations Public Spaces Community Places Program, which are backed with a matching grant from the MEDC and the Michigan Department of Transportation controls and maintains eight-mile road and has the sole discretion for approval approval of all aesthetic elements, whereas pursuant to MDOT's aesthetic elements guidelines, all entities impacted by the aesthetic element, including the city of Detroit, must provide resolutions of support for this project to move forward.

And now therefore be it resolved that the Detroit City Council hereby supports let there be light gateway initiative at the intersection of Greenville Road and Eight Mile.

Now be it finally resolved that the Detroit City Clerk provide a copy of this resolution to the mayor to the Michigan Department of Transportation and to the Eight Mile Boulevard Association.

Motion for approval, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you so much.

There's a motion to approve the resolution, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Motion to attach a waiver, Mr.

Chair.

So request for a waiver, colleagues.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Madam Clerk.

Council Member McCambo, a resolution.

Recognizing June as LGBTQ plus Prime month.

So much, Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh move to approval discussion.

There's a motion to approve with discussion, Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to give um appreciation to member Santiago Romero and her team for uh this resolution.

Um as June is Pride Month.

And when we think about LGBTQ plus community, we know that folks are uh constantly under attack, especially for trans folks and gender non-binary folks as well, but also for me personally, this is a very important um as a uh queer black Detroiter, um, ensuring that we have a city that is welcoming and safe for all folks.

Um, just want to highlight that and the need around pride, but also to ensure that we're doing advocacy, make sure that everyone feels welcome in our city.

So just want to name that and yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

There's a motion on the floor for approval colleagues.

Any objections?

None that action shall be taken.

Madam Clerk.

Custom member McCampbell.

Uh memorandum to be referred to the public health and safety standing committee.

This is regarding the bubble zone ordinance for health clinics.

Member McCamp.

Thank you.

Motion to approve.

As a motion to approve the assignment.

Alex, is there a motion?

Is there are there any objections?

Excuse me.

See none, then action shall be taken.

Under adoption without committee reference, madam clerk.

Mr.

President, we can go back and do the referrals.

I don't went all the way down there.

Sorry.

My apologies.

Uh for the president's report on standing committee referrals and other matters for the budget, finance, and audit standing committee, madam clerk.

One report from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

The one report would be referred to the budget finance and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee.

15 reports from various city departments.

The 15 reports would be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

Three reports from various city departments.

Three reports would be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.

Six reports from various city departments.

Six reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee under consent agenda.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

We now move to member reports.

That's our morning mingle.

And on Tuesday, June 16th, District 5 is having a land bank property sale.

Please join us as we welcome the land bank through District 5 for anyone that's interested in buying side lots or land that's owned by the land bank in the city of Detroit that'll be 6 p.m.

through 8 p.m.

at the Considine Center, 89 through 4 Woodward.

Once again, that's a Detroit Land Bank Sale for District 5.

On Tuesday, January 23rd, we're having our district five community meeting again at Considine, 6 8 p.m.

And on Wednesday, June 24th, we're having our community development block grant learning and application assistance program.

A lot of residents in District 5 want to participate.

And we know that's a um an a strenuous application process.

So we will be assisting you through that department with applying correctly your application to participate.

You know the door is open in September for that grant.

So we're looking to assist you uh at the consularity center from 6 to 8 p.m.

on again Wednesday, June 24th.

That's it.

Uh President Thank you.

Member Waters.

Yes.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

The skill trade task force meeting will be um June 17th.

We'll be at the Adams Butter, which is at 1050 Linden Street.

Uh that's June 17th from 4 to 6 p.m.

Uh Task Force members are waters, Miller, and McCampbell.

Then on June 18th, uh, right here in the auditorium at 11 a.m.

will be the retiree task force meeting.

Um it's gonna be at 11 a.m.

right here uh in the auditorium and that meeting will uh also be a hybrid.

Um the co-chairs uh waters and uh Matt Campbell.

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you, member Benson.

Thank you.

Uh looking forward to our Thursday ecumenical clergy brunch on Thursday, June 11th from 11 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

This would be at the Detroit Plain Education Center.

This will be our ecumenical clergy brunch on Thursday, June 11th from 11 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

In addition, we will be hosting our second Juneteenth bike ride on June 19th, Juneteenth from the Charles H.

Wright Museum of African American History.

The check in will be at 09 30 a.m.

and we'll be riding out at 10 a.m.

This is a great curated ride, and our second time hosting this at the Charles H.

Wright Museum of African American History.

We'll be partnering with Major Taylor 313 Cyclones, the Slow Roll, my office at Charles H.

Wright Museum of African American History, Black Leaders Detroit Wheel House Bicycle Shop at the Detroit Greenways Coalition.

Once again, come on out and ride.

It's a free fun ride, Juneteenth at 9 30 a.m.

We'll be riding out at 10 a.m.

from the Charles H.

Wright Museum of African American History on Juneteenth, the Great Curated Ride, where we will be stopping by and learning about topic specific as well as timely um interest, historic interest throughout the city of Detroit.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Member Johnson.

No report.

Thank you.

Uh member Callaway.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Everyone is invited to enroll their students.

It's at its free six-week summer discovery program at Oak Grove AME, which is on Cherry Lawn and Pembroke.

These are for um rising ninth graders and rising tenth graders.

And you don't have to live in the city of Detroit.

You just simply have to live in Wayne, Oakland, or Macomb County.

It's a free six week six-week program.

There'll be cultural experiences, financial literacy classes, and more.

And I think every Friday they're gonna have a um field trip.

For more information, you can call 224 4535.

And then join us for our coffee and conversation on Monday, June the 8th, from 8 to 9 a.m.

at Liv 6 Home Base, which is located at 7426 West McNichols.

Representatives from the Detroit Board of Education, the Board of Police Commissioners, the Health Department, and various other department um heads will be at the coffee and conversation.

This is an opportunity to for our community to connect with those city leaders and learn more about local initiatives.

You can call 224 4535 for more information.

And if you can't make it to the in-person coffee and conversation, please join us for our monthly district two community webinar, which is going to be Monday, June the 15th, virtually from 5 30 to 6 30.

You can call 224 4535 to get that meeting ID information.

And then for Father's Day, Wednesday, June 17th, we'll be hosting a event from 1 to 2 p.m.

at Desmond's Elegant Affairs on Puritan, and we will have representatives from the health department for um from the Fatherhood program.

And we will also be um offering free bowls of the from what I understand award-winning gumbo.

So anybody who's interested, bring your father, your brother, yourself, your nephew.

You are all invited to come and participate in that Father Day celebration.

And then join us for our first ever citywide blight patrol orientation on Monday, June the 29th from 4 to 6 p.m.

at the Adams Butzel Recreation Center, which is located in District 2 at 1050 Linden.

We'll do a deep dive into the Blight Patrol, discuss what role you'll play and how you'll fire all your mileage to get reimbursed and help us to fight the um blight that is happening in our city.

And lastly, the city health department offers free-led testing to reduce toxic lead exposure among Detroiters.

Please call 876-0133 for more information.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh, just two items.

Thank you.

Um, so this Friday, June 5th at 4 p.m.

until 5 30.

We'll be hosting our first disability task force meeting.

Um, this task force is chaired by myself, member Johnson and Pro Tim Young.

So this Friday, 4 p.m.

until 5 30 p.m., located at Art Detroit at 51 West Hancock Street.

But this will also be a hybrid meeting.

Folks can join us via Zoom.

And then on June 20th, we will have the District 7 Freedom Festival in celebration of Juneteenth from 12 to 4 p.m.

at Rouge Park at Joy Espinoza.

This is our free event.

We'll have food, we'll have performances, stuff for the kids to do, and also resources as well.

So please do join us June 20th, 12 to 4 p.m.

at Rouge Park for our Freedom Festival and celebration of Juneteenth.

That's it.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Pro Tim Young.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I would look forward to having some of that gumbo, please.

Tomorrow, June 3rd, we are restarting the produce giveaway at Buttsell Recreation Center or Kirchhoff during the summer months.

We will be passing out free fresh produce boxes provided by Eastern Market starting at 12 news.

That's tomorrow, June 3rd at Buxle Recreation Center or Kirchhoff at 12 new.

Boxes will be given on our first come first served basis.

The address for Buxle Recreation Center is 7737 Kirchhoff, Detroit, Michigan, 48214.

Again, that's tomorrow.

Wednesday, June the 3rd, 2026 at 12 new.

So tomorrow, Wednesday, June 3rd, 2026, 12 new at Buxel Recreation Center, 7737 Kirchhoff, Detroit Michigan 48214.

Also, Wednesday, June 3rd, 2026, I will be hosting a virtual meeting starting at 4 p.m.

with Director Crystal Perkins.

Discuss upcoming summer programs for our seniors and youth.

Please call 313-224-4248.

Again, that's 313-224-4248.

Again, that's 313-224-4248 for more information on how to register this meeting.

Again, I am hosting a virtual meeting tomorrow, June the 3rd, starting at 4 p.m.

We will be discussing programming for our youth and seniors.

All are welcome to what did please call 313-224-4248.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

So colleagues, can I get a request for a um assignment for resolution National Caribbean American Heritage Month for June?

Motion.

Seeing none, that action shall be taken, and we will follow it up in writing.

And then lastly, wanted to just touch base uh briefly on uh some of the challenges we had with uh our Zoom yesterday uh in uh PHS, it led to a major delay.

Um never want to do a new colleague like that or new er colleague.

You ain't new anymore.

Yeah, six months in.

Um so uh one of if someone can come down media service.

I know you all are working on it.

Uh it sounds like it was a Zoom issue.

Uh got a number of calls from colleagues uh wanting to figure out what was going on and how to ensure that uh we don't have this particular issue moving forward.

We thankfully didn't have it today um in formal session, but this is in a different room as well.

Good afternoon, Ms.

China.

Good afternoon.

Um, I'm China Cochrane, Deputy Director of Media Services.

And uh I wanted to, I was asked to come here to address the issue with the Zoom.

The issue is not actually with the Zoom, the issue is with the hardware that connects to the Zoom.

Um it is called uh MyAMP um software, and we have reached out to the vendor to come and service the software.

However, they tried to service it this morning, it was not working.

They did it remotely.

They will not be able to come back out until uh Thursday at 10 a.m.

So does it are you advising that we have the meetings here in the auditorium if we can secure it as opposed to secure it?

You should because we are trying to figure out how we could um make that work right now.

We are we've been informed that it needs to be replaced.

So um we are working uh to either get a loaner from the company or um you know get it replaced.

And we're trying to get it done today.

We're working on that as we speak.

Okay, and you said it it potentially will take how long to make the repair once they get over here.

Um they will they won't get here until Thursday.

If they have one available, they will bring it and program it.

If they don't, we are we have to order it, but they'll let us know if they have one by the end of the day.

Okay.

I don't have the schedule for the auditorium.

Is auditorium open tomorrow for committee?

I'm sorry.

Oh because why not, right?

So the is there a plan B.

Um, so I know that the law or the ordinance that was approved required us to record from Gavel to Gavel, but the challenge we have is that we have allowed for uh public comment, uh both hybrid and in person.

There is no law that states that we have to have public comment in person.

This was something that this body decided to do because we wanted maximum participation.

We often hear about folks who come down, spend 20 bucks uh for parking.

Uh so we want to eliminate that uh barrier for them to communicate with us.

Um but I'm looking at what would that plan be look like if we're not able to have the Zoom function the way that it is currently uh configured tomorrow through the Chair Graham Anderson Law Department, you are fairly knowledgeable on this subject, council president agree with everything you just said.

You're on the money.

What we would have to do for internal operations tomorrow and budget and finance is uh we would have to notice those meetings without saying that there's zoom capabilities.

That would be the key thing would be in the noticing of those meetings.

We would have to remove that.

Now I I do understand though that maybe services is working very hard and potentially they might be able to resolve this issue beforehand, but if that is not possible, then we need to we cannot advertise or uh publish that the Zoom capabilities are possible.

Oh thank you.

Thank you.

So that that would also mean that every individual that is coming before the committees plural would have to be in in person, and I'm talking about those individuals from the administration.

So it's a uh a comfort for everyone to have that set up, especially in PED when you never know exactly when the items will be addressed because of public hearing.

So I think that is uh something that absolutely has to be taken into consideration uh as well.

Um, Madam Clerk, uh I know that we do note on the agendas and the notification to the public about the uh ability for hybrid uh public comment.

Is there any way that we can and I guess we can say this to the law department and LPD as well, indicate uh in the um for the next two days that the uh ability for Zoom capabilities uh has now would be uh uh non-available.

That'd be possible to put out there uh in in advance, Mr.

President.

Or on the agenda, if you will.

Yes, ma'am.

At this point, we will definitely accommodate when we do the calendar distribution today.

If the situation is not clear by the time the internal operations standing committee in the budget finance, all the standing committee calendars are approved.

Uh we will wait a few before the end of the day.

However, if that's the case, we will more than welcome note the calendar referencing to concern uh the zone situation.

Okay, and it sounds like they're gonna be working on it potentially tomorrow, so it may even get clear tomorrow.

They're not coming until Thursday.

Not coming in until Thursday, excuse me.

They're not coming in till Thursday, but they would they are working on a solution right now.

Okay, so right now we will do a day by day because maybe there's a magic that they can make tomorrow, uh, which would allow us to um provide public comment, um, excuse me, virtual public comment uh access on uh Thursday, but as of right now, I think it's a wise bet to anticipate uh no uh virtual Zoom capabilities for tomorrow's session, uh but we will play that by it, we'll be in touch.

All right, thank you.

Discussion uh with further discussion, Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, through you to Ms.

Cochrane.

Um if this goes until Thursday morning.

I know you indicated that they can be here Thursday at 10 a.m.

which is the same time as PED.

Do you anticipate any disruption in the committee of the whole?

I don't anticipate a disruption, they will be working to change it out and it may be able to work.

They'll be working while the meeting is on, but it won't interrupt anything because it doesn't control anything as far as broadcasting the meeting.

Okay, okay, so there's no device within the committee of the whole that they will be switching out.

No, it's in the control room.

Okay, perfect.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you so much.

Uh thank you.

Thank you.

And then closes out my member reports for the day.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

Under communications from the clerk.

A report on approval of proceedings by the mayor.

Report will be received and placed on file under testimonial resolutions and special privilege.

Councilmember Johnson, two resolutions.

Line items 28.1 and 28.2.

Member Johnson, 28.1 and 28.2.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move for approval.

There's a motion to approve line items 28.1 and 28.2.

Colleagues, any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Member Johnson.

Thank you.

Um, I believe you were about to wrap up.

I do have a quick motion.

Um, last week in the budget finance and audit standing committee member metal member waters requested that HRD do a cost benefit analysis for uh city club apartments.

I would like to make a motion for LPD to do a cost benefit analysis of the same uh property uh so that we have both come to us.

That's my motion.

Thank you.

College, there's a motion on the floor.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Seeing no further business to come before this body, this meeting shall stand adjourned.

This meeting is adjourned.