Morning, everyone.

I would like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for today, Monday, July 13th, 2026.

May the clerk please call the roll.

Yes, good morning.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Good morning, present.

Councilmember Denzel Anton McCampbell.

Present.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present.

Madam Chair, we have quorum.

Thank you, Madam Cork.

Given a quorum, we'll get into the agenda for today.

We did receive our minutes from our last session that there's a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, our minutes will be approved from our last session.

For chair remarks, I just want to share that there will be some changes to our agenda this morning.

If you were looking forward to learning about the uh demolitions, um, a presentation on an overview on demolitions.

This will be postponed until next week.

Uh and we will also uh be having brief discussion regarding chapter four.

Um we might need to bring this public hearing back, but we will get into that shortly.

Uh given the bringback of the overview of demolitions, we will also be bringing back um any demolition contracts for today for next week.

Uh so our agenda might look pretty short today, um, but we still will have discussions on the rest of the petitions, requests, and contracts.

But with that, we can go into general public comment for this morning.

Everyone will have two minutes this morning for public comments, and I will be cutting off general public comment at 10 10 a.m.

So if you are here in person, I believe I have two names for polks in person.

Three names or two.

Three, okay.

And then if you are online, please raise your hands now.

We will begin with the folks that we have here in person before turning it over uh to our virtual public commenters.

I will begin first with our in-person public commenters.

Uh you can follow direction of our officers, but I'll call out two names at a time.

We will hear first from Earl Robinson, followed by Mr.

Cunningham, Brother Cunningham.

So the two of you can feel free to take a seat, take a mic.

The time is on the screen.

And make sure the microphone is green once you are in front of it and whenever you're ready.

Yes, I come here today to discuss something that's been ongoing in my neighborhood on my street for the last five years.

The Detroit Eighth Place Precinct has been totally ineffective in just getting one person to leave everybody alone.

This man has assaulted multiple older people, including myself.

He's um been on the news recently with assaulting an ex-firefighter and fire chief here.

Um Tyrone Scott.

This this gentleman lives next door to Tyrone Scott, and there was there was a fire a shot fired, but he's been harassing and and and basically just being a general uh I won't say a pest, I'll say uh a plague on the street.

Why can't the eighth precinct do something about it?

That's what I want to know.

I've gone up to them, I've filed all the paperwork you want.

I mean, I've done police reports.

He they have done nothing.

They come up the minute he sees them, he runs inside his house or his parents' house, and they don't have a warrant to go get him out.

Why are we having to deal with this?

This person doesn't pay any taxes.

It's not like it's just me.

It's at least six houses on the street that he harasses.

He's up at seven o'clock in the morning yelling, I'm on the street.

Why do we have to deal with this?

That's what I want to know.

I mean, you're talking about one person harassed three to three times, three tours in Vietnam.

A hundred percent disabled vet.

Myself, I'm 80% disabled.

He harasses me.

Tyrone Scott, also a 20-year Air Force vet.

We get nothing.

The police say, oh, well, he's in this house, we can't do anything.

I've called, I've even called my city council person.

I've not heard back from them.

Thank you, Mr.

Robinson.

Member Waters.

Thank you.

Uh good morning.

And let me just say to you that I'm sorry that you're going through that.

Does this if I through you, madam chair?

This person live alone.

Myself, no.

No, not you.

The person that he assaulted last week.

The person that's doing all of these things.

He lives in his parents' house.

Okay, so his parents are there.

Um I mean, they're in their 90s.

That they don't have any control over him.

Oh, for sure.

It's not going to be over there.

Yeah, here I'm talking about photography.

I'm sorry.

Oh, I I wonder why you were looking that way, but it's okay.

Um you know, I I'm not a doctor or anything, but something else is going on here.

But is that our problem?

It is not.

Uminder, we can't go back and forth.

Okay, sorry about that.

Thank you, madam chair.

So, but but I will certainly um talk with the um um the uh police department about this, uh the chief and deputy chief.

We'll we'll have that conversation.

If you could leave your contact information, um I have where's my oh there she is sitting out there, my staff right there.

Yes.

If you could leave that information uh uh with her, and we will we will be uh in touch because I want to better understand what is going on here.

I don't want anybody to end up getting hurt either.

Well, shots were exchanged last time.

I'm gonna uh oh that's bad.

Okay.

All right, so I'm I'm done now.

Um, Madam Chair, we're gonna get the information out, have an offline conversation.

Okay.

Thank you, Member Roders.

Thank you.

I was also gonna share if you want to loop in our CDI groups.

Um it sounds like we might need some wraparound services or some conflict resolution.

Um, but I I agree we need to figure out what what is needed here.

Uh we will now hear from Brother Cunningham, followed by Pastor James Wheeler.

Brother Cunningham, whenever you're ready.

What up, though?

Good morning.

Uh Councilman, Councilwoman, Councilwoman, good morning, everybody listening.

Good morning.

313-444-9114, 313-444-914.

313-444-9114, that never was made, so you can remember it on Facebook Forced Subservience Cunningham.

And I'm asking anyone that can assist in repairing my vehicle, or you have a uh a vehicle that can be repaired cheaply, a vehicle you don't use.

I want to stay out here doing the outreach that I do uh for the people.

Also, if you need Wayne County Transit Millage Yard signs or lit.

Again, if you need Wayne County Transit Millage Yard signs or lit, give me a text message to that number.

Um some of the orgs that giving me gas gift cards to keep me um to keep me uh getting the information out, disseminating the yard signs and lit.

And they will be delivered.

Everyone that does uh bus ride-alongs remembers when we do that, I give out bus tickets and low-income housing lists on the coaches for those that want a low-income housing list.

It doesn't just uh uh encompass Detroit, it's Macomb, Oakland, Washington, it's like other counties around the area included with that package.

So let me give you that number, 855-646-7432 during business hours.

Um 855 7432.

And you can have it mail to your mama house, your cousin house, uh, your grandma's house, your church, the or you could be homeless.

I was home for 12 years, so I know mailing address the issues that that that comes with that.

But they will mail that list to you, pray for me, and I'll show enough pray for you.

Thank you, Brother Cunningham.

Public comment, by the way, is cut off.

Uh next we will hear from Pastor Wheeler, and then we will turn it over to the folks that we have online.

Pastor Willie, whenever you're running, the mic is yours.

Oh, it's not good morning.

Good morning.

This is Pastor James Wheeler from the first Progressive Missionary Baptist Church, right across from Better Made Potato Chips.

So with that being said, we are in a dilemma.

We have a situation.

We have a sign that uh has gone up and it advertising uh is King Bud advertising.

Uh I can look around, you know, you know what Bud is, amen.

And uh this cannabis.

We've had success in having the first sign taken down, and within six weeks, they put another one up there.

In other words, just violating or saying we don't care what y'all do, we're gonna do what we want to do.

And if you look around, there's no King Bud signs around better made potato chips, uh, the hardware store, or Brother Benson, God bless you.

And so again, we would like to know what we can do to get this sign down and stay down because we don't want people getting high off of King Bud.

We want to get high off of Jesus, amen.

So uh what can we do?

That is that it for your comment, Pastor.

Yes, I don't need uh 50 minutes to ask what we all right.

Well, thank you.

There are many that want more times.

Just want to make sure that that you have the time that you need.

Um, so Pastor Really, just so you know that we are working on an ordinance uh to ensure that there are no signs uh that sell cannabis around um places of worship.

I don't know where we are just yet on that ordinance.

I know it's being drafted right now.

Um I think the second half is uh enforcements.

So once we pass an ordinance uh such as that, that it's being enforced.

Uh, but we will get to that bridge when we get there.

Um, but for now, we know the importance of making sure that we don't have these kind of signs.

I believe it's something that's if it's not member Benson, member Callie Calloy might be working on right now.

Uh so that's that's what's um what's the this that the city is working on.

Well, I think you'd be able to do that.

So sorry, Pastor.

We can't go back and forth.

Um, I need to just give everyone to say I'm on the time.

Thank you.

Appreciate you.

Appreciate you.

Thank you.

I will now turn it over to the folks that we have online.

Who do we have first?

And how many hands do we have raised?

Good morning, madam chair.

There are nine hands raised.

The first is Dr.

Denise Darnell.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Good morning.

Dr.

Denise Darnell Brown here.

I am an advocate for proposal S on the back of the ballot for August 4th.

Michigan's fiscal year 2026-27 education budget is done.

The overall education package represents a decrease of nearly two billion from the previous year, and that could be due to a drop in a one-time federal support.

It was still passed late, which created uncertainty for local districts.

So there's no new revenue to help close the over five billion funding gap for our state's public schools.

The state did not budget 1.9 billion for things like special education that the federal government is supposed to be helping pay for.

No, I just want voters to make an educated decision and consider proposal S, which will consider and continue providing expanded career and college programming for our high school students, more classroom supplies for students and teachers, additional repairs for our aging school buildings, plus art, music, physical education, and athletics.

Lastly, I am on the August 4th ballot in Wayne County Precinct 203 for delegate to the county convention and would appreciate your consideration and vote for those in this precinct.

I'm running for precinct delegate because I believe everybody can do something.

That's my comment.

God bless you all.

Thank you.

You as well.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is caller ending in 169.

Hello, can you guys hear me?

Yes.

Great.

Um, I identify as Jay.

Thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

Agape, agape, agape love.

Thank you for listening.

Thank you for my time.

Thank you.

The next caller is legendary Detroiter.

Mr.

Crowley, you are up next.

Now I want you to hear this clearly, Gabriela Santiago Ramira.

The eighth precinct is where Kinesha Coleman was assassinated, murdered.

And there's a detective, Dead Tick Mott over at the Eighth Precinct that filed an aggravated assault complaint that's been buried.

It's been buried by the homicide division of the Detroit Police Department.

I never have come across that report during all my investigation over the last five years.

Now I'm going to switch this to District 3.

Scott Vinson is the representative for District 3.

I'm on the ballot for the August 4th as a precinct delegate, Republican over in District 3.

But the city of Detroit is corrupt.

Now it is my goal to clean up District 3 over here between New Burn Street, between Six Mile, right south of the Conoce Concrete facility to Davidson.

And then Gallagher and Moran is well is included in the Newburn Watch Association.

Now I want to bring this matter to everybody's attention.

I ain't broke no laws or committed no crimes in a long, long, long time.

And everything that I've said is true.

So Gabriela Santiago Romero, this Conrad Mallet Jr.

that represents the Board of Police Commissioners.

He's also general corporation counsel for the city of Detroit and a former Michigan Supreme Court Justice don't know me.

And the game that him and James E.

Tate Jr.

City Council president have been playing with me.

I'm black bag.

I got a whole bunch of monikers.

And I'm real.

And now y'all busted.

Janice Wumphrey cheating in Detroit elections is busted, busted, busted.

The next caller is Mr.

Foster.

Good morning.

Um through the chair.

Couple things.

Um when it comes down to our veterans, I think that it's important that you just listen to them.

I think sometimes you have to take the time out and just listen to them.

But secondly, I know there's a sergeant major in the Marine Corps that was in the police force that worked with veterans in very good situations.

Also, there's been social workers, no one in the 10th precinct.

And so there are some tools that are available outside of law enforcement that reach out to.m to 3 p.m.

It's going to be on our uh Diva Community Park that we have created for our community this year.

We're blessed to be able to uh purchase additional land to expand our park.

Um we are seeking help.

We need volunteers.

We're looking for people to help us uh set up our tents and break down the tents.

We are going to be bringing free resources to the community.

It's gonna be a family uh friendly fun day with all types of games.

We're gonna have big with spades, uh dominoes, uh checkers, uh, all type of different games that you use activities, games we purchase.

I don't know all the names, but it's all family friendly fun.

You get exercise because we have uh all of this additional space now.

We're gonna be doing free uh haircuts, hair braiding, it's gonna be a bouncy house, popcorn, snow combs.

We're gonna have hot dogs, uh the hygiene products we've given away, school supplies, backpacks, and all type of uh activities is gonna be going on that day.

So we are seeking help.

Our setup time is at 10 a.m.

between 9:30 and 10.

You can show up if you want to volunteer.

We could use you.

Uh it's 6451 uh Ellsworth, corner of uh Monica.

And I'm gonna be sending out flyers if you can help us promote.

Next caller is owner Papa.

Good morning, and through the chair, might be heard.

Yes, good morning.

Good morning.

Thank you for removing all of those uh uh uh demolitions, but they've already probably been done.

I think that's where the corruption is and this emergency demolitions.

Um, one of them 107,000.

And do we know who the owner of that building is?

I think all bond money that's left should be going to remediate all of the dirty dirt holes that you all have allowed to occur in our neighborhoods.

Uh vote no on any millage for any increase for anything.

Don't believe these people.

You voted yourselves in a billion-dollar bond and look at your schools, they're closing.

Do not vote for any millage for schools because they tug at your hearts, but your children get nothing.

And and and transit.

Um Coleman Young tried to get regional transit to agree with them.

That's why we had the people mover, and they did not.

Don't vote yourselves in anything for transit or anything for the schools because they're lying.

They have lied every time we voted ourselves in a millage, and our conditions have worsened.

Mr.

Foster, you're absolutely right.

It is time for us to overthrow this government that is not performing to the benefit of the people.

Um I don't know what else to say to you all, but if you if you don't do something different, you're going to have a revolt.

Thank you.

The next caller is caller ending in a 5-3-4.

You are unmuted.

Good morning.

May I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Okay, we got a handling problem because I signed in, raised my hand, and I had to raise it again.

Um be nice if the council would rise higher and address all of the concerns brought up by residents who take time out of their day unpaid to ask questions, often because like sometimes these council's offices won't uh answer the phone.

But member waters, I think you misunderstood my question to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Uh I asked, I've asked repeatedly, why do the people in the solar neighborhoods get housing upgrades and the rest of us did not?

And my question wasn't, did those people get housing upgrades?

It is why is it the rest of us do not get housing upgrades when there was no community benefits agreement?

Because to me it looks like basically bribing people uh to sell out their neighbors to have their property taken through eminent domain.

Also, we were not told about the definition being used about blight that if a property was tax reverted in the past or owned by the land bank in the past, it is it is blighted per se.

There's nothing you can do about that to to alleviate the blight.

So that's fraud.

Also, who is this emerald media contract all about?

I've seen that company get money.

The information here doesn't even say what it's about, and yet you expect us to uh comment in an intelligent fashion when we don't have that information.

Also, note that the Board of Police Commission is you got a contract about a um somebody to transcribe their minutes.

Well, right now the BZA is trying to change their rules to make appellants pay for transcripts, which is an admission that what they were trying to do before is illegal, and very politely, none of you would help us straighten that matter out when we were asking you about these anti.

Thank you, Miss Warwick.

I will now recess our 1030 a.m.

public hearing to the call of the chair.

And if the clerk can please note you've been joined by Member Benson.

Good morning.

Clerk will note.

Thank you.

Excuse me, madam chair.

Yes.

Call it to order and then recess it.

I will call to order our 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

And recess to the call of the chair.

Thank you, Dr.

Powers.

Who do we have next?

Our last caller is William M.

Davis.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

You know, I I think it's sad that when I got elected to be a police commissioner in 2017, I was a police commissioner for four years.

We actually had more power, more authority than the police commission today does.

When I got elected, we had our own board attorney.

You know, we used to review body royal camera, you know, cameras from the vehicles, we all all sorts of stuff.

You know, this is uh a bad sign when it looks like over sight is being eroded in this city.

You know, not from the necessary from the city to the church itself, but from the federal government.

So I think a greater effort needs to be made to do something about that.

Uh also I think a greater effort should be made to make sure people are educated on the importance of voting.

And uh we need to make sure we have greater number of people voting.

Because our voting numbers are tragic.

I've been a precinct delegate here in Detroit, precinct 410, you know, for 10 years.

Um I was a precinct delegate before, way back when, but for the last 10 years continuously not be on the ballot again, also.

But we need to make sure we have people to looking at our neighborhoods, seeing what's going on, seeing what needs to be done.

And also in my precinct precinct 410, we still have a whole lot of trees now.

We still have my backyard still full up with trees and stuff.

Uh, you know, branches and stuff that failed, I mean huge ones.

You know, we need assistance.

We need how we need an active government that's doing more to help the people of the city of Detroit.

Far too often it appears as if our government has given a lot of handouts to uh the corporations and the rich people.

I think more needs to be done to help the average everyday citizen, more needs to be done to help seniors, more needs to be done to help City of Detroit retirees.

Hopefully, y'all will have a great day, and y'all should each encourage people to vote.

We need our numbers up.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Davis.

Yes, we always encourage folks to come out to vote.

And I know that early voting has already started.

If you are able to turn in your ballots, please do so.

Uh, because we want to make sure that your voice is heard.

Thank you, everyone who called in this morning for general public comments.

I will move us along to the rest of the agenda.

As I mentioned this morning, our presentation uh will need to be pushed back by one week.

So I'm going to, without objection, bring back line item five, our 1015 presentation back in one week.

Hearing no objections without objections.

Line item five will be brought back in one week.

Moving us along to our 1030 a.m.

public hearing, I will uh we'll call to order our 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

Our 1030 a.m.

public hearing is regarding chapter four, amending chapter four of the 2019 Detroit City Code, advertising and signs by amending Article 1 generally section 4-1-1 definitions to include religious institutions in the definition of advertisements sensitive properties.

Uh we are joined by Member Benson, who is uh leading the charge in these efforts.

Member Benson, uh, good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

Um just discussion.

I uh believe there needs to be some changes, and there might be a request to bring this back after session.

Is that correct?

Or after recessing means?

Yes, Member Benson.

So I just found out about potential change, so I believe is non-substantive, which means it could be made by motion pen and ink at the table today to keep this process on track to be done prior to recess.

That would be up to the law department, but just like to talk through the ordinance and what we're trying to do here and why it's important.

But just like to talk through the ordinance and what we're trying to do here and why it's important, and we have a pastor from a local district three church who was really one of the ones who helped to inform why we need this and why it's important to have this type of substantive change.

So if the chair would like to talk about the ordinance first, then we can talk about any change that a law department says needs to be made.

I would I would like to know whether or not the law department will need to bring this back after recess.

They were gonna check.

Good morning to the honorable honorable body through the chair, uh D.

Hill, um, and covering for law department covering for Graham Anderson uh through the chair.

There is no legal reason to move this forward today.

However, I am prepared uh to have the public hearing, and it's actually going to leave this decision to move forward to this body.

So the the law department has no, we can either move this forward today if you would like to and make the change at the table, or it would need to be refiled.

Okay.

If it's not a substance and change, then we can make the change here and move forward.

That's fine.

I just, if there's gonna be a major change, would rather just do it all together and then bring it back.

It's non-substantive.

Okay, member Benson.

So just so everybody realized, so this is the advertising ordinance, which protects sensitive areas from advertising of alcohol, marijuana, and other social ills.

And so this is something that the public has been asking for for quite some time.

And as you can see, we have uh pastor here of a local uh church, but this includes adding section or number 10 to the definitions of sensitive advertising sensitive areas, and it becomes a religious institution, which means a legally recognized organization such as a church, mosque, temple, synagogue, or other place of worship.

What it does is provide churches and synagogues and mosques and other work places that worship the same protections that you're gonna find at a school, at a recreation center, at a park, at a library, daycare, they now receive those same protections when it comes to advertising that is prohibited near sensitive areas.

And so just as a pastor indicated, you have your church, and then 30 feet from your church is a probably a 40 by 20 sign advertising king of bud.

And so just the a level of disrespect and a level of just insensitivity to what we have here and the industries are here to make money, and so without being told they can't do they're going to do it.

We have these protections for the other locations.

We want to extend that same protection to places of worship, and protecting freedom is freedom of speech is a paramount piece of our U.S.

Constitution.

So you have to do the research to show that the city has a vested interest in protecting its residents from this type of advertising.

And so it took years to get this done.

The law department went out and did the work, and we finally come back with the ability legally to add this level of protection to our houses of worship as well.

And so the ask of this body is to take this up today.

We now have our public hearing.

The uh community can weigh in if they do or do not agree.

I strongly agree and support this type of change to extend this level of protection to our houses of worship throughout the city of Detroit in the third district.

We have we have temples, Hindu temples, we have masjids, we have numerous churches, numerous masjids, and so they would really appreciate this level of protection being extended to their congregations and their places of worship as well.

I am interested in hearing what the non-substantive change is, and that could be made here, and we can continue making moving this forward today.

So I'm gonna read the change fully into the record.

It says a religious institution, which means a legally recognized organization, such as a church, mosque, temple, synagogue, or other place of worship established for the primary purpose of conducting religious services, spiritual activities and related functions, including but not limited to communal worship, prayer, religious, education, and associated charitable educational or community outreach programs typically housed in a building or facility situated on a designated parcel of land and identified as exempt by the accessor.

So the part that we are adding is the and identified as exempt by the assessor.

Okay, uh I believe in order to make that change, it would need to be motioned on motion.

Motion.

There's a motion to amend the ordinance.

Okay.

Are there any objections to the amendment?

Discussion.

Discussion, Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

For the law department, uh with this, because this goes into one of my questions.

Um as identified by the assessor, has there been any thought about being identified by the uh IRS as a 511c3 entity, or what other ways are we recognizing that churches or religious institutions are legally recognized?

Uh through the chair to member McCampbell.

So we are this is a a non-substantive change, as I stated previously, and it would be exempt as a religious institution.

So it is going to be acceptable to have it just coming as exempt through the assessor for this purpose of this or of this order or its amendment.

Okay.

I have I have further questions on it, but it is not related to the amendment.

But all right.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

You have further questions on the legally recognized aspect of that.

So not related to the amendment, but I just I still have further questions on that.

So we can move forward with the amendment process.

Okay.

Um so that was a question on the amendments.

There's still a motion to approve the amendment.

Hearing no objections.

We will approve the amendment toward the ordinance.

Um then one second, everyone.

If there's nothing else, this is really a simple change to um an existing ordinance to ensure that we are adding religious institutions.

Um wondering, colleagues, if there are if there are any other questions for this ordinance before I turn it over for public comment.

Vice Chair.

Um thank you.

And thank you to the law department on this.

I wanted to to go further on as we're talking about legally recognized.

Um, is that the only place that for as a city that we verify that these are religious institutions?

Um is that through the assessors or there how do how are we uh verifying that there are religious institutions?

Uh member McCampbell, through the chair to Member McCampbell, I would like to believe that the assessor will have that information and be able to verify that information.

If you would like a more robust response to that question, I am not going to be able to give that response, and I do not want to give you any information that's not factual.

I don't have that information in front of me to share.

Uh all right.

I I think I'm I don't I don't want to I won't hold up the process, but the reason why I'm asking is that um I don't want to get into a situation where uh understanding that there is a need for religious institutions around this.

I just don't want to get to a situation someone just says, Oh, I have a religious institution, and so in a way that we can have that verify, because it might run into legal trouble with the folks who are trying to put advertisements up.

So I'll get there.

Thank you, Mm.

Chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

To the law department, does including the assessor's office, is that what you're going to be using then if they are legally registered to the assessor's office as a religious institution to be able to avoid the the kind of situation that was just mentioned?

To the chair, that is my understanding, yes.

Okay.

Uh Vice Chair, does that enough or what else do you think might discuss?

Um sorry to member Benson.

I was notified that we did not notice a quorum for this.

Um so I'll need to now give five minutes to everyone during public general public comments, and we'll not be able to um allow any other discussion, unfortunately, due to the law.

Um I apologize.

I didn't notice that we did a notice of quorum for this.

This is what we do for all public hearings.

Um so that is on our office to to address moving forward.

Um, but I believe um to LPD.

Thank you, madam chair.

I didn't want to mean to interrupt you.

I was gonna I would like to make a procedural suggestion in terms of these.

These are difficult questions, and I have great sympathy for the law department representative when you start talking about balancing the rights of one industry versus another group and speech and religion issues get involved, trying to answer them without you know very clear research, a very clear question and a very clear written answer.

I was I wonder if if if requesting a written opinion of the issues that uh council member through the to the chair that council member McCamp has been asking about from the law department might be the way to proceed.

It would be much clearer, I would think, in a confidential written document to answer these questions and then try to answer them in public and also not potentially prejudice the city against one side or the other.

Okay, member McCampbell, is that something that you would like to do if we do that?

I believe we would need to hear the responses back.

Uh what would you like to do?

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I would like to get the um written opinion because I just want to make sure that the city is protected in it.

Um and what we do as ordinance.

Uh so uh do I have to do I need to make a motion at the time?

I believe so, yes.

Um a motion to uh get an opinion from the law department on the necessary language or the necessary process to verify that um the religious institutions are legally recognized uh in that way.

I guess that's the uh motion.

There's a motion for a memo to LPD hearing no objections, that memo will be sent over, followed up in writing, member waters.

Yes, uh madam chair, through you are we able to bring the assessor's office on online so that they can answer that question.

I believe it can be answered today.

Uh is the assessor's office with us to respond to this question uh to the administration.

Good morning through the chair.

Um, we do not have a representative arm right now, um, but we can reach out to see if someone's able to join.

Okay, thank you.

So there's a question for the assessor's office.

There's more information that's being requested regarding uh definition or legal standing or statuses of religious institutions.

Are there any other questions that folks have um if not we are at the moment now where we can move forward and go into general or going to public comment for this public hearing, this 10 30 a.m.

public hearing specifically?

Um since we are here now and we've gone over um the purpose of the ordinance.

I we can move into public comment for the 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

Everyone will have five minutes, but these five minutes have to be focused on the 1030 a.m.

public hearing solely.

If we begin to hear you speaking outside of the subject, we will need to cut you off and move on to the next caller.

But please raise your hands now.

I'll be cutting off the uh public comments for the 10 30 a.m.

public hearing, going once going twice, going three times.

Please raise your hands now.

We are cutting off public comments for our general, excuse me, for a 10 30 a.m.

public hearing to our pastor.

Would you like to speak?

Or did you already he said that he had the 50 seconds he needed to speak earlier?

Are you still okay?

He seems to be okay.

Did you want to say share anything else regarding the public hearing?

Pertaining to this public hearing.

And again, to everyone, we need to be speaking solely regarding the subject of advertising and signs in religious institutions.

Sir, whenever you're ready.

So if the law don't have that down there, then I'm questioning the law.

God bless you.

Okay, thank you, sir.

We will now turn it over to the folks that we have online.

Ms.

Amigalista, who do we have first?

First, we have legendary Detroiter.

Mr.

Ruben Crowley.

You are up next, making a comment regarding the 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

Well, I didn't witness, I heard uh public hearing.

And uh you made some comments and and uh heard uh several other council members make comments now what I'm gonna stress and this is related directly to the public hearing.

And I got five whole minutes, so I'm gonna keep this and on the public hearing, but it's gonna include everything that I feel and everyone else should feel should be mentioned or allowed to be mentioned.

If you understand what I'm saying, Gabriela Santiago Romero District's uh sixth representative for the Detroit City Council, so-called elected Detroit City Council.

This is the public okay this is a public hearing, and I'm talking, so please do not interrupt me again, Mayor.

Now, this public hearing, just like all the rest of the public hearings, and this one in particular.

Now, we don't know what's going on as citizens, taxpayers and residents of the city of Detroit.

We don't know, and you guys don't know, obviously, by your comments.

Now, you may mention Gabriela Santiago Romero, and I'm taking this time to specifically point out that you don't know what's going on.

Now, with this matter in this hearing that we're talking about, and I'm speaking on it, you're listening to, and everybody else is listening to.

Now I want to make it a point uh regarding this public hearing in this comment section to point out to the citizens residents.

Just a quick pause.

Dr.

Powers, can he filibuster for the next five minutes or does he have to speak on the subject?

Um, I will give you 20 more seconds because we can't filibuster our time.

So go right ahead.

I'm not filibustering.

I'm talking about this public hearing.

That I just witnessing I don't I didn't I don't know what you consider to be a filibuster, but what I'm saying is the truth.

Now we got elected officials having public hearings.

But we can't just spend five minutes of our time uh listening to to no comments regarding the 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

They must be about the 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

Who do we have next?

Up next we have owner Papa.

Good afternoon or good morning, and for the chair Carolyn Hughes, may I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Good morning.

It appears to me that this particular ordinance or public hearing is premature.

We absolutely have to hear from Alvin Horn how he's going to determine if an institution is a religious institution.

Thank you, uh, Councilman Mac Campbell.

That is a very good point.

Um, if we don't have all of the parties at the table to discuss what we need to discuss, and I'm shocked that the law department hasn't weighed in on it.

Um, no, I know you guys don't care about how much money we spend in lawsuits.

I see it every week.

Um, but we care as citizens, and so as the word says, everything must be done decent and in order.

This is not in order, as multiple times I have told you, you're putting carts before horses.

I need to hear Alvin Horn tell me how he's going to determine that a religious institution is a religious institution.

That should come from the assessor's office because that is who's making the determination.

So now if you really want to have a complete hearing, he must be involved because his decision is crucial.

Um, I'm not sure where you guys got your degrees from or where you got whatever, but that is this is things are run in an orderly manner.

And if you don't have order, then you have chaos, Mr.

Benson.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And we do have the assessor with us, so we will hear from him next once we've heard from the public.

Who do we have next?

Up next we have Renard Monchowski.

Hi, good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

All right.

Um, my name is Renard Moshanski for the record, and I'm speaking on the record as a citizen and resident of the city of Detroit, a taxpaying resident, not in any capacity of any organization endorsing this statement.

So that aside, um, I wanted to um just comment on I think that this ordinance, if passed, could open the city up to litigation because I'm of the opinion that the first amendment constitution um overrides any little ordinance that a city wants to pass.

And thank goodness we have a federal constitution and we have federalism because if cities and states were left to do whatever they want, um, it would be an anti-democratic environment.

And we gotta weigh on a scale, the first amendment right of a religious institution to the worship, and then the first amendment right to a business to advertise illegal product.

Um I don't see the same consideration for vaping and cigarettes also being banned near religious sites in other areas, and I don't see the same consideration for alcohol um being banned, and alcohol is extremely deleterious to the community and society, and should not be advertised, but yet I don't hear that as a complaint.

Also, we only heard it from one faith.

Um, you know, how they feel about these signs, and I think having a perspective of the Jewish community, the Islamic community, and other Christian communities, um, so that we can have a more balanced conversation about how they feel about these science, because one religion or denomination doesn't speak for another.

I myself profess a faith in Christianity.

I'm a proud Catholic, and I do believe that um the materials on this earth, animals and plants are used for healing and can be used, and it doesn't constitute us doing anything wrong.

Um castor bean oils, um, castor beans are very toxic and they're used to make ricin.

So that's just one thing about nature.

Um the other thing is too, um, if we start to take down science because we don't like the speech, when does it get to the point where we take down political speech that we don't like or billboards or signs that we may agree or disagree with because they may offend the sensibilities of someone?

So I think that this is a slippery slope.

And um, I do believe that a sign does not prevent a religious institution from performing their function.

It doesn't.

Um the religious institutions often have a voice in government and inordinate when it comes to implications and setting and framing things and having public meetings.

So let's just balance the scale here.

I think that I do agree with Ms.

Hughes, not on every opinion, but on this one, I do agree that this is premature, and we have not heard from all parties.

We haven't even heard from the businesses that would be affected.

So this seems to be weighed in bias towards religious institutions as well.

So I warn the city not to pass ordinances that violate our constitutional rights, because as we celebrate the 250th anniversary of this country and the way this country is going in an authoritarian streak, do we want our constitutional rights, or do we want um this government to be passing dictates at whim because someone doesn't like something?

Thank you.

And I reserve the balance of my time.

Thank you.

Who do we have next?

Oh, before we move on, LPD.

Thank you, madam chair.

Just these I mean, some of these the relevant comments here are quite impressive in terms of their understanding of First Amendment implications here and why uh councilmember Campbell's asking the questions.

But the only point that hasn't been made that probably has to be made in this public setting in order to set the thing is this is not an attack on free speech, or it is not intended that way.

Clearly, it's a good faith attempt to do what is called a reasonable time, place and manner restriction on speech, which is allowed.

And if the city gets sued, if the city passes an ordinance like this, no matter what it says, and if it gets sued either by the one side or the other, that will be the question.

Is it a reasonable time, place and manner restriction, or is a substantive restriction on speech?

And that's where it gets very complicated.

And in addition when you have free exercise and uh establishment of religion issues, another whole free speech conundrum.

It's just really hard to deal with it in public, but I just thought to clarify for people who are making really excellent good faith comments.

That's what it's gonna come down to since I hadn't said.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Madam Chair.

Oh uh, Member Waters.

Yes, um, the audience will include everything that was outlined by the previous caller.

Alcohol, he mentioned that alcohol, uh, cigarettes, marijuana, all of that.

Uh, will be included.

I'm not sure if they if the caller understood that.

I just wanted to point that out.

Thank you.

Yes, and I'm taking notes too.

Uh let's mention these things once we hear the rest of the comments and the questions, but thank you, Member Waters.

Um, who do we have next?

Our last caller is Rory Bulger.

Mr.

Bulger.

Good morning, council members.

Um, actually, I'm speaking as uh City Planning Commission staff person at LPD.

Um, and with respect to the chapter four amendment in this amendment is an appropriate one, and the change which is being suggested to it is being done as a way of making sure that chapter four is consistent with other provisions in the Detroit City Code where religious institutions are mentioned.

I'd point out that within chapter 50 of uh of the city code, the zoning ordinance speaks to um adult uses or sexually oriented businesses, and it speaks to various marijuana uses as uses, the location of which um would be influenced by the proximity to certain other kinds of uses, including religious institutions identified by the city assessor as exempt properties, and the reason that those other land uses make reference to the proximity of religious institutions identified as exempt is for the practical reason of the city's need to be able to easily identify where religious institutions are located.

Um the um an established church or synagogue or mosque that is an ecclesiastical institution of some sort um may already be identified as being exempt.

Um and the city assessor um makes note of this, and when someone may come in for a permit for an advertising sign, in being able to determine whether or not the location is an appropriate one, uh staff at the building safety and engineering department need only to um to see whether or not there are any exempt uh locations within the specified radius of the proposed advertising sign.

Um of the reasons behind this is that there are numerous storefronts, which may be rented out for a temporary basis for a church.

Um, and the city really has no way of being able to identify the complete universe of churches, um, including the storefront churches, whereas the assessor's records already have identified exempt properties, um, which would be typical of established religious institutions.

So the addition of the wording of religious institutions identified by the assessor as exempt is a way that makes it possible for the city to better enforce and administer this ordinance, and importantly, um, so that chapter four is not inconsistent with the other provisions in the city code having to do with religious institutions.

It would be ironic if it were easier for a sexually oriented business to be established.

Um for a marijuana related use to be established, then it would be for an advertising sign to be established.

So by having the provision about the assessor identifying a proposed property as exempt, puts advertising signs on the same basis as sexually oriented businesses and marijuana uses when it comes to administration.

The city would be uh following the same procedures for all of those.

And that concludes my comments.

Thank you.

I believe that was our last commenter.

Correct.

Thank you.

Thank you, everyone.

Uh so I think we can bring on our assessor if he is on with us.

If you can please make them a panelist.

Yes, to the chair, he is on and he's being made a panelist right now.

Thank you.

So just want to triple confirm the information from the assessor to ensure the city does have a way to verify religious institutions.

Sir, whenever you are with us, if you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

Good morning, ma'am chair.

This is Alvin Horn, Deputy CFO and assessor for the city of Detroit.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us on short notice.

We are discussing chapter four amendments for advertising and signs.

And there's been a few questions regarding how we can ensure we are supporting our religious institutions and not others that might be stating that they are, but they're not.

Can you share with us what the city will be doing to help verify?

Thank you, ma'am chair.

Through the chair.

The city has a pretty detailed application process for a nonprofit exemption.

And that nonprofit exemption covers religious, charitable, scientific and educational uses.

Uh for a church to request a nonprofit exemption to the state of Detroit.

First, they must provide what's known as a 501c3.

Which is a form from the RS, which exempts them from the from income tax.

That has to be in place as part of the application process.

They also must be registered with the state of Michigan.

And we confirm that through the Laura system.

They must provide our office with a copy of their bylaws.

With the organizational structure and their officers, they must provide our office with a D showing that the nonprofit owns the property that they're actually using.

And finally, our staff the site visits.

We will actually go to a church, confirm that it's open, that the building is being maintained, that they have their hours posted.

And we have we will actually send staff on a Sunday to note that the church is actually open on the hours that are posted for their uh on on their signage.

We also do an audit of every religious organization in the city every three years.

So every three years, we will have cycled through all the churches in the city to confirm that they are still open and that the properties being used for the purpose of the exemption.

Thank you, ma'am.

Thank you, assessor.

I know you mentioned churches, but does this include temples, mosques, synagogues, um, all religious institutions?

Uh thank you through the chair.

Ma'am, my my apologies.

It is I shouldn't have used the term churches.

It is all religious institutions that apply for the nonprofit exemption, regardless of their faith.

Okay, thank you.

Um colleagues, any other questions for our assessor while we still have him?

No other questions.

Okay.

Um thank you for joining us.

I just want to answer a few other questions, uh, address a few comments that were made.

Welcome any of my colleagues to to bring these up as well.

But there was a question regarding other institutions, other religions, if they were involved in this.

Um member Benson did mention in his opening speech uh the different religious institutions in his district uh that were involved in this, but but he did confirm um that he has spoken to them, uh, that our institutions in the city want the same protections and want to be in line with protected uses, um, in line with their schools and such.

Um, so was able to to verify um that institutions across the board seem to want this.

Um, and thank you to LPD for mentioning um the the trickiness of this when it comes and and and how it might impede free speech.

Um, but really what we're doing here um is just expanding the protected uses to our religious institutions.

Colleagues, any other questions um that I may have missed or comments that uh would like to be made um before we move on with this public hearing.

Seeing none.

Oh, yes, vice chair.

Just a question on and um not for the assessor, but just in general force we are looking at this ordinance.

We when we think about um products such as vapes and zin and and other do those already fall under the tobacco definition.

Um through the chair.

Yes, thank you.

Through the chair to member McCampbell, yes, it does.

So in section 4-3-4, uh it states that an advertisement of alcoholic liquor, um tobacco product, or any marijuana product or any electronic nicotine delivery system cannot be within a thousand foot radius of any advertisement sensitive property.

So I do want to make sure that we we highlight that because I heard that there was a comment made earlier doing our public hearing commentary, and I want to make sure that everybody knows that we are not singling out just one certain prohibition that this is there are multiple prohibitions that are for these sensitive properties.

I also um I appreciate that.

Another question um for you uh on thinking about we've heard a lot about gas station like drugs that are not um what is it regulated or such um would that fall under the current ordinance as well?

In this in this, um it's electronic nicotine delivery systems.

So I would imagine that that probably is not necessarily going to encapsulate all of the products that you are referencing.

Um those specifically it is any electronic nicotine delivery system, what we call ends, that is part of the inclusion in the prohibition.

All right, thank you.

I think it may I have to do a little bit more research on my end on that, but as we hear more and more about the unregulated uh things that are in stores and gas stations, um it may be that we can look at that, but just want to ask about that.

Thank you.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Um being informed now that our council president is also looking at this now, so checking with him, see how that's going and see how what help might be needed there.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Thanks, Vice Chair.

Um, also correct that non-regulated um products would not be included in this.

Uh, we can look into that moving forward.

Any other questions or comments for our 1030 a.m.

public hearing?

Uh member Benson, I apologize not being able to give you the final word.

I I I I usually would in this moment a note for my team moving forward that we notify these public hearings as a quorum.

Um to the assessor, any comments why while I still have you with us no ma'am, thank you.

All right, is there a motion, colleagues, to sign our 1030 a.m.

public hearing the amendment to chapter four to formal with the recommendation to approve?

Motion hearing no objection, our 1030 a.m.

public hearing, the amendments uh to ordinance the the ordinance and amends chapter four will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Motion send in new business.

There's a motion to send to new business.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, this will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you all.

All right, everyone, moving us along now to the rest of the agenda.

We are now under unfinished business.

Oh, I will close out our 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

Thank you, Dr.

Powers.

And move us along to unfinished business.

Under unfinished business seven points one is the memo relative to the services that are going to be offered by the neighborhood and community safety.

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Without objections, hearing no objections, 7.1 will be brought back in two weeks.

7.2 is a memo relative to a request for legal evaluation on potential federal tort claims.

Act action rising arising from ICE vehicle vehicle vehicle pursuits in Detroit.

Uh we've been uh information has been received, uh, but to our vice chair, would you like to receive and file bring back discussion?

Discussion.

Discussion, vice chair.

I have I have not seen okay.

Um can we uh bring this back after recess, please?

7.2?

Yes.

Okay.

Um there's a note for me to receive and file.

So that's why I mentioned that, but we will bring this back until after recess, then okay.

So there's a motion to bring back 7.2 motion hearing no objection, 7.2 will be brought back.

Uh let's say August 3rd.

That's after recess.

Excuse me.

That's when we are in recess.

Um we can bring this back the 7th, September 7th.

Uh that is our first Monday back from recess.

Dr.

Power said I will not be here.

Um sorry.

Moving us along to 7.3.

7.3 is a memo relative to fireworks curfew violations.

Vice Chair.

Um, just a note for the last bring back September 7th is Labor Day.

Oh, that was discussion about coming back until afterwards.

You're right.

Thank you.

So then to the clerk, September 14th will be our first session back, and that will be for 7.1.

Point of clarity, 7.1 and 7.2.

I am looking at the wrong numbers.

Um, 7.2 will be brought back on September 14th.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

We're 7.3 now.

This is the memo relative to fireworks curfew violations.

We have been asked to bring this back.

If there's a motion to do so, there's a motion to discuss 7.3.

Motion to bring back in one week.

Hearing no objection, 7.3 will be brought back in one week.

7.4 is a memo relative to demand for legal remedies, federal obscription, obstruction of the Board of Police Commissioners charter mandated oversight access.

Um being assigned to the law department.

There's a motion to discuss.

Motion.

Thank you.

To the law departments, we've been asked to bring this back.

How much time would you like to bring this back?

Uh can we please bring this back after recess as well?

Okay.

There are two.

Okay.

So then there's a motion.

There's a request to bring back seven point four back on September 14th.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.4 will be brought back on September 14th.

7.5 is a memo relative to request for legislative options to restoring the board of police commissioners over sites through council, excuse me, through ordinance and council action.

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Motion to bring back in two weeks.

Hearing no objection, 7.5 will be brought back in two weeks.

7.6 is a memo relative to D dot's risk management concerns.

Through the chair.

Thank you to law department.

Through the chair, can we uh have a two-week uh a bring back after recess for this one as well, please?

7.6.

There's a request to bring back on September 14th.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.6 will be brought back on September 14th.

7.7 is a memo relative to request for report concerning demolition costs and collections.

Uh this is being assigned to both LPD and to the law departments.

Wondering how much time might be needed for these items.

If there's a motion to discuss, motion.

Thank you to the law department.

Uh through the chair, my notes are showing that this was delivered.

This was delivered.

Okay.

LPD, do you have any outstanding issues with this or earnings or is the law department gonna suffice for this request?

I'll rely on the law department.

I wasn't aware this is a joint.

All right.

So then if that's the case, is there a motion to receive and file 7.7?

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.7 will be received and filed.

7.8 is a memo relative to a resolution.

Request on data center water usage.

There was a request to bring this back in one week.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.8 will be brought back in one week.

7.9 is a demolition that we will bring back without objections in one week.

7.10 is contract number 600 7891 amendment number one.

This is to provide an increase of funds for a strategist for media planning and buying.

Contractors Emerald Media, they're located in Detroit.

This is going to go through November of this year.

The request is to add 50,000, bringing this total contract to 100,000.

And this will benefit our health departments.

Just a note.

Is there a motion to discuss 70?

Discussion.

Discussion.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

I believe we should have Christina Floyd and Hillary Edwards for this item if we're able to make them panelists.

To the chair, uh both are being promoted to panelists.

Thank you.

Oh, hello.

Please feel free to join us up here.

Good morning.

And Ms.

Floyd is online.

Thank you.

If you uh I'm gonna first turn it over to the folks that we have online, while we let our director get get settled in.

Um if you wouldn't mind setting your names and titles for the public.

Good morning.

Oh good morning to the body.

Uh Christina Cloy, Deputy Director of Public Health for the Trial Health Department.

Uh good morning through the chair, Hillary Edwards, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Good morning.

Feel free to state your name and title for the record.

Good morning through the chair.

Vicky Thomas, senior director of communications for the city of Detroit and Mayor Mary Sheffield's office.

Thank you for joining us, Director.

Uh so if you wouldn't mind sharing with us what we are looking at for this contract, or whoever wants to share regarding this contract, either deputy director or director for media services, whoever would like to start.

I'm the chair.

So this particular uh contract is for our grants meeting with our local comp as well as other contracts uh and grants that we have for the department to uh up until November.

We are currently in the position of evaluating uh for a new uh contract for media services through grant funding, uh, but this will allow us to be able to complete the um the cycle for our uh grants bidding for this particular uh fiscal year, uh so that when 101 starts, we will have a new contract in place to be able to move forward with the new grant funding that we have trying to make sure that we are uh spending the existing uh allotted uh advertising dollars for the department for our various grant funded programs so that we can ensure that we can uh continue these services for the community as far as outreach.

Okay, thank you.

And if you wouldn't mind sharing which uh services will be promoted through this contract, yes, so it will be our uh reproductive health services uh as well as um our child health uh and some of our public health uh programs, so like lead and uh some other programs okay, thank you.

Uh director, would you like to share anything else regarding this contract or um why we're seeing it in this way?

Usually we see or we we would think that all of this will go through media services.

Why are we looking at the separate contracts?

Uh it still will um be monitored by media services.

As you know, when I started in 2021 under Mayor Duggan, we monitored um all of the contract activities for the departments using the two contracts, one for grant funded contracts and the other for citywide contracts.

As you know, we've made great strides over the last several years to make sure that there's uh proper outreach, and I'm happy to say that I think we're um doing pretty good in that area.

Is there room for improvement?

I think so.

Um, I know we received a number of questions from uh members of the committee, and um I'm sure that if we are allowed to proceed, that uh you'll be pleased with the outcome.

We do have uh, in my estimation, a great number of Detroit-based companies that have applied for the grant funded contract for media buying and strategists.

Okay, thank you.

And I know that I that's uh a request that I think all of us are making is that we bring these uh these services into the city.

Um, wondering, member water to see your light is on it.

Do you have any questions or comments regarding the contract?

Um, sure.

If you're done, madam.

I am done, yes.

Okay.

All right.

So um, yeah, some of my questions have have certainly been answered.

I um this contract, it appears is specifically for the health department, number one.

Um number two, how many um vendors were notified?

The fact that you have a new RFP out, how many have been notified so that they will have an opportunity to apply?

Because frankly, uh all we see is basically MR Media media a lot, and I'm just kind of tired of seeing them.

So um, how many did we invite this time around for the new RFP?

Anybody know?

Uh through the through the chair, uh to answer a question, uh Councilman Waters.

Uh we invited uh everyone who uh responds to our bonfire system, and I'm happy to say that we had roughly eight responses, multiple Detroit uh vendors have responded with a bid.

We are currently in the evaluation stage at this point, so uh we expect somewhere maybe in the September early October time frame to have a selection in place.

And through the chair, um and Hillary, please correct me if I'm mistaken, but not all um contracts can you consider location uh with the grant funded federal dollars, you cannot.

That's that is correct through the chair.

And the new RFP is it's it's grant funded.

Is that correct?

The new one that this is correct that you they just responded to correct.

They re we're currently in the evaluation stage for the grant funded uh program.

Yeah, the RFP for the city funded program has just went out for uh for bid.

Okay, all right.

So I I get the part about not being able to consider location race or anything like that for the grant funded one.

Now the city one, um how many were invited for that one?

It would be the same amount for the grant funded.

The specifications are the same.

So uh if I was to take an estimate, we uh really invite anyone who meets the uh criteria for media services.

So it's a wide range, probably over two 200 vendors were invited.

And so, but people have not responded to the city one yet, is that correct?

Correct, correct.

All right, when is the deadline for responding to that one?

I believe that one is the middle of August.

Middle of August.

Okay.

Yeah, I can get you the exact time frame, but I believe it's the middle of August time frame.

Okay, all right then.

Uh thank you.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Any other questions to our vice chair?

Thank you.

Uh good morning, everyone.

Um, I yeah, I did send over questions.

Um I know we sent them over a little bit late, but uh I just wanted to knowing that this is very specific on this, um, and hearing the steps that are been taken, so I appreciate the steps are being taken on um to get other vendors.

I had a question on have we thought about making this function in the house since we have um so many folks that may need media buying um services.

Uh through the chair to uh vice chair McCampbell.

Um the reason why I don't think it's really feasible to bring it in-house is because media strategy uh is very um complicated, it's a niche type of thing, especially media buying.

Uh a lot of the media companies, they will leverage all of their clients uh to get better rates from let's say the billboard companies or things like that.

And if we brought it in-house, um I think it would be cost prohibitive number one, and then when you also look at providing benefits to those employees, um, I think that that would also make it cost prohibitive.

Okay.

It would be uh thank you for that.

Uh I it would be good to um just get a view on the um total amount of media buying that we're doing if if the information just for me to know um as we're moving forward, because I I definitely understand that um get that some of the the folks have uh different points that they could get in the cost and that um I just would like to know the scale in which we are um buying media on that.

So and and the additional questions I said, but I know we got them um over to y'all pretty late, but thank you.

I think you did receive them though.

The answers I don't I don't think not yet, but um I'll double check.

Hillary, do you know if we sent those over?

They were um answered uh through the chair, yes, I believe we did, but we can resend those uh as well.

know the skill in which we are um by media on that so and and the additional questions i said but i know we got them um over to y'all pretty late but thank you i think you did receive them though the answers i don't i don't think not yet but um i'll double check hillary do you know if we sent those over they were um answered uh through the chair yes i believe we did but we can resend those uh as well thank you okay thank you madam chair thank you vice chair member waters um well i can tell your arms were was not responded to as yet i mean the only reason i got some answer because i had a conversation uh with you but officially it has not been responded to so who do we need to resend it to did you receive the questions director from member waters i saw the memo that requested uh and i assumed it was for uh research and analysis to provide an estimate of what it would cost to bring uh services in house so that would be my answer that I uh just gave to vice chair mccamp um so they need to respond they have it so they received the memo the responses have not been given back in in writing is what you're what you're looking for okay just water back in writing sure okay to Mr.

Edwards do you know if you also received or sent over responses to member waters no through the chair um I do not believe I have sent that particular response I think we need to have a collaboration relative to uh you know an actual the cycle how much it will cost between uh in-house and uh the actual response from Emerald Media so we need more of a collaboration to figure that out so you're saying that's gonna take a minute that's what I just said yeah okay but we will receive the response is that correct through the chair correct yes member waters okay thank you member waters so there seem to be some outstanding questions still um I my question is I guess as far as urgency if we can if we bring this back in one week to allow for the answers to those questions what is your timeline for this contract or to to to get this work started so through the chair we are looking to uh really have this expedited the funding that we are using is for grant funds that end on 9 30 2026 and so we're really looking to get this uh completed so that we can expend those funds otherwise we would have to reallocate those dollars uh to other places in our budget to ensure that we're spending them because again they are through our local comp grant and so uh if we don't we will be pretty much sending that money right back if we don't spend that money to the state so that's why we kind of need these um completed pretty soon okay uh once this is approved uh what's the timeline to implement the work that you have to do uh can you just move forward and and and begin the work or do you okay so so you shouldn't have too much time you won't need that much to set up you can just move forward through the chair yes we have already had um implementation plans developed already and strategic plans to be able uh to push the work forward with regards to uh the outreach that we need okay uh all right colleagues uh so there is a deadline it it's I believe we can get it through before then but wondering um if people are comfortable moving this out this week or next week once responses are received member waters I um I can do either as long as I have a solid commitment that they will respond to to the questions because if they don't respond to the next time around I'm not gonna be so nice.

All right so we could move this to formal that would give them a week to respond to to the answers.

Member McCampbell that's fine all right folks uh so this body is gonna be nice move this out to formal and just hope to get the responses because if not we can bring this back again so if that's okay through the chair thank you Chair thank you member waters thank you uh vice chair mcampbell all right we appreciate it is there a motion yeah member waters have a comment and um next time you tell media services to get down here because you know I know I I that's I see one but we're so used to working with you and I won't I don't want them to um take this that opportunity to to have um to utilize that soft spot that we might may or may not have for you working relationship no they have to learn too okay is what I'm saying and I I expect them to learn to come down sometimes take handle the tough questions and so forth so through the chair being in the hot seat as I call it yes that's right in the hot seat uh thank you thank you member waters so share share the load share this share the heat um is there a motion

And I I expect them to learn to come down sometimes, take handle the tough questions and so forth.

So the chair, being in the hot seat as I call it.

Yes, that's right.

In the hot seat.

Uh-huh.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Waters.

So share, share the load, share this, share the heat.

Um is there a motion to send send uh seven ten to formal?

Motion.

There's a motion to send 710 to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objection, 710 will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve, pending those answers to the memos.

Thank you all so much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Item 711 is contract number 6007 eight eight three utilizing 100% city funding.

This is to provide court reporting and transcription services for the board of police commissioners.

Commissioners.

Contractor is Gerald Hanson and associates.

They're located at the Ranson.

This will go through June 30th, 2028, and this will be for 96,605.

Is there a motion to discuss 711?

Motion.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Um, I believe we were still looking uh for some information to our vice chair.

Did you receive the information that you requested?

I believe you were asking about this contract being uh condensed.

Thank you, uh madam chair.

I don't believe we got any additional information.

The the thought the question and the concern was behind um during budget.

We had a live conversation with the cost for the board of zoning appeals.

And through that conversation, we had talked about a centralized contract for court court reporters um to help bring down that cost, especially the cost that um residents or folks that are engaged in the BZA um gets.

So I saw this as a way to possibly to do that, but I don't think we've gotten any additional information.

Um I don't know if if it's on our end that the administration is waiting for anything else, but I haven't received anything that I know of.

Okay, thank you.

Um, Mr.

Washington, who do you have to discuss 7-Eleven with us?

Through the chair, I would have to defer to BLPC as their independent of the administration.

Um, but I have been notified that Drew Freeze is online um with Leonard Jones.

Okay, and then I don't believe that there is uh BOPC rep here in person.

Does that look like it's if there is a BOPC rep online?

Please raise your hand now.

Um, but I I don't believe so either.

Through the chair.

Um one second, Mr.

Washington.

Yes, uh Drew Freeze is the B O PC rapper.

Oh, thank you.

Perfect.

Uh Vice Chair.

Thank you, ma'am chair.

And this may be a question for uh the law department or LPD or both.

Since this is a contract for a uh independent uh board, would it be appropriate for the city to have a centralized contract to include them, or is it more appropriate for them to have a separate court report or contract?

That was a question to LPD or law or to the law departments.

LPD?

I don't know.

I'd have to ask the the uh department that administers the contracts.

I just don't know.

So it's a good question.

Thank you, LPD.

That is a good question.

I think it'll just go down to process and whatever's easiest or most cost effective.

Who knows?

Maybe we'll see.

Um, whoever is online if you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

My name is Leonard Jones, supervisor in the office of contracting and procurement.

And to the chair, uh Mr.

Freeze is also online, but how's their camera off?

Okay.

Uh Mr.

Freeze.

Oh, we can hear you now.

Is this Mr.

Freeze?

This is Drew Freeze, executive fiscal manager for the board of police commissioners.

Thank you for joining us.

We we can't see you, but we can hear you that you have joined us now.

Um Drew, to our vice chair's question.

Um, have you guys uh thought through or is is um I mean he asked the question if the city should be involved in um in this process.

I guess do you have a history of of this and whether or not um it is helpful that the city help, or should we leave this to the BLPC to figure out through the chair um want to touch on a couple things.

Um want to touch on a couple of things.

First, the question at hand.

The history is that the board has used an independent court reporter uh contract.

Um and that court reporter has been Gerald Hansen.

So this is maybe the fifth time that we are that we are using them.

Um the questions that council member McCampbell raised last week.

I think he stated would be most appropriate for procurement.

That is why Mr.

Leonard Jones has joined us today.

We sent over some uh background this morning uh with documents for uh to reference as well as the background of um uh uh it is an independent um uh departmental body in the Board of Police Commissioners.

Um so there's probably a uh a desire for the contractor to be independent as well.

But in regards to being fiscally responsible, the the scopes of work for this court reporter was so unique across different departments that it was deemed the most appropriate to go department by department compared to a citywide contract.

But but again, Mr.

Mr.

Jones is the one who led this analysis and he's he is the expert here.

Thank you.

That kind of went to my comments about processing system and and what we need for our processes.

Mr.

Jones, if you wouldn't mind sharing more um a little bit about this process.

Yes, through the chair, um the BOZA uh have a contract, um, but for court reported transcription services as well as the city clerk.

There are smaller contracts because they're as needed.

Um the court reporting is not something that's does weekly.

Um they do it case by case, and the BOPC has weekly meetings, and they utilize a large amount of price for uh price per page with the transcription services, over a hundred pages for each session.

So they their um operations or their pricing structure is based off their operational needs, which is court reporting and a large amount of transcriptions uh pages uh price per page.

So they have a bundle price that Joe Hansen give them to help discount their price per page.

Um city clerk pays a little bit more money per page because they don't use that service as often when it comes to transcription services as much as the BOPC.

So uh that's why those contractors are separate.

There's only three departments that use court reporting as of right now, as BOCA, City Clerk, and BOPC being the much larger volume user out of the three.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Jones.

Any follow-up questions, comments?

Vice Chair?

Thank you, Mel um chair.

I would and appreciate the breakdown and um also wanted to respect the independence of the Board of Police Commissioner.

I think for us the thought around knowing that the BZA and the clerk's office have smaller contracts, and that this will be a bigger one.

The thought was if we could combine all of them and just have a lower cost for uh the BZ and the clerk's office.

Has that been any thought around that?

Um actually I have looked at doing that as well, just that the contracts come expired at certain times in the in the um service can't be interrupted.

But yes, it could be um uh a combined scope of work, which encumbers all three or encompass all three scopes of work.

Um it's just that operational wise, uh the BOPC is using a much larger volume of transcription services, um, which allows them to get discounted, um, which you know all the departments would be the other three departments will be able to benefit with that, but they just don't use it as much um with the transcription services.

But uh yeah, we could incorporate them to one the savings.

Um it's not gonna be that drastic of what the BOPC has right now.

They have a great package with Joe Hanson that's bundling um those services together and giving them uh prices that's lowered in, you know, just as low as the my deal, which is a much larger volume contract.

Joe Hansen has brought their prices to really be fair and reasonable against the my deal um um statewide contract.

So we're happy about that.

So they're not gouging us at all.

Um they're very reasonable with their pricing over the last several years.

They haven't gone up above two percent.

So um we could easily encompass all three in one scope of work and do one contract for three departments, and that's something that we can work on in the near future after these two years of these contractors in place for City Clerk and for um BOPC right now.

So after two years, we can most definitely look at bringing those all under one umbrella contract.

Thank you for that.

Um, Mr.

Jones, and so both just the verified the city clerk and BZA, those contracts also end in 2028.

Uh I believe um I'm looking at the city clerk's contract that ends in um April 30th of 2027.

And I believe that's the same time that the BCAs is going to be spring of 2027 that time period.

So um I can amend the contract.

Um the one that we're doing with the B O PC, maybe amended for scope of work.

Um, or we can just put it back out today and in another next another two years.

Um, and with all three scopes of work combined.

Yeah, okay.

That's great to hear.

That's that's that's what I wanted to uh get towards.

So um, thank you for that.

And I have a clear view of the timeline.

So I'm good.

Thank you.

Um, thank you, sir.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

So in two years, we have to make sure these are combined.

Um other questions for 7-11.

Is there a motion for 7-11?

Motion to approve 7.11 and sent wait motion to send 7-11 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, 7.11 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you all for joining us.

Moving us to 7.12.

7.12.

This is a demolition that we will be bringing back in one week without objection.

Hearing no objections, 7.12 will be brought back in one week.

Uh there are actually a number of demolition, 7.13 is a demolition contract.

Motion to bring back yes, member waters.

I would like to combine the next few that are going to be demolition contracts.

So 7.13.

Oh, there were a number of other ones.

Oh, we'll bring back in one week.

Thank you.

I heard member waters give a motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.13 will be brought back in one week.

7.14.

This is for an introduction and setting up a public hearing for an amendment of chapter 18.

Uh, regarding billing and collection.

Is there a motion to discuss motion?

Thank you, Member Waters.

I believe this is these are your efforts, correct?

Um, are we able to send this over for an introduction or do we want to bring this back?

Um the chair to the law department.

Uh, yes.

Can we please have this brought back after recess?

Okay.

Motion.

There is a motion to bring back 7.14 in on September 14th.

Hearing no objection, 7.14 will be brought back on September 14th.

Thank you to the law departments.

7.15.

This is a memo relative to implementing dangerous buildings process improvements.

We have received this information so we can receive and file motion.

Hearing no objections, 7.15 will be received and filed.

7.16.

Is a memo relative to request to draft an ordinance concerning a waiver of blight fines.

Is there a motion to discuss?

Motion.

Thank you to the law departments.

Yes, to the chair.

Can we please have a one-week bring back for this item?

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.16 will be brought back in one week.

7.17 is a memo relative to request for a report concerning hydrogen fueled buses.

We've been requested to bring this back in two weeks.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 7.17.

We'll be brought back in two weeks.

Under new business, under the office of contracting and procurements.

Here are our various memos for today or various demolitions, excuse me, for today.

8.1 through 8.12 are all various memos.

If we can bring these back in one week.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, eight point one through eight point twelve will be brought back in one week.

And I will go through each item just to make sure there are no other contracts, but there shouldn't be.

So we are all set to move on to item 8.13.

8.13.

This is contract number 6007836 utilizing 100% grant funding.

This is to provide a community health worker training services.

Contractors, the Michigan Community Health Worker Alliance.

They're located in Troy.

This will be for a two-year contract at 62,000.

And this will be for the health departments.

Colleagues, just a note.

Is there a motion to discuss 8.13?

Thank you, Member Waters.

We should have Deputy Floyd, Christina Floyd with us.

If we can make her into a panelist.

And Kelly Tremell should also be on if we can also make them into a panelist.

I have Kelly Tremont.

Does not seem to be online at the moment.

Okay, no worries.

If we can move over the panelists that we have.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Kelly Tremel Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Thank you for joining us, Ms.

Tremel.

We don't have our deputy on with us.

I was hoping that we could get an overview of this contract.

Would you be able to be able to share that with us?

Yes, madam chair.

This is a grant funded um contract through the Department of Labor.

This is for the training for Detroit residents to be able to be certified as DOLAs, midwife, lactation consultants, and perinatal community health workers.

So this is a two-year contract.

Um grant funded.

Um the grant specifically named the Michigan Community Health Worker Alliance program for a budget of 62,000.

Thank you.

Developing maternal and child health skills.

Some really good things here.

Ma'am, would you happen to know if like who will who we will be training?

I guess I want to ensure that we are trying to spread uh these skills across the city.

Oh, our deputy has joined us.

If you wouldn't mind seeing your name and title for the public, I'm just trying to get a sense of um again who will have access to this, trying to ensure that that we have uh folks trained across the city.

Again, to this honorable body, Christina Floyd, Deputy Director of Public Health to the Detroit Health Department, and uh to the chair.

This particular project will be open because it is a Department of Labor contract uh uh project uh and funded through the Department of Labor uh veterans, their spouses, and then those uh obviously within uh city of uh Detroit residents are uh able to be enrolled into this particular program uh as uh Kelly State.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Chermel, for um overview.

Uh, we are looking to have 30 participants across the city.

What the goal is is to be able to provide these type of um career pathways for individuals to gain the skills that they need to be able to go into community-based organizations, uh, hospitals, healthcare facilities, uh, and other city departments and community health workers, doulas, uh peer breast um uh breastfeeding support, uh, and also uh with being able to garner uh soft skills that will allow them to be able to go into the workforce.

A part of that as well, especially while we will uh emphasizing how we community health worker piece is that Michigan Medicaid does pay for a certain um reimbursement for certain services for community health workers so that provides uh community health workers with an opportunity to be able to be marketable uh in that skill set to generate revenue for organizations that can deal through Medicaid for those community health worker services.

Awesome.

Thank you so much for that overview.

Um colleagues, do we have any other questions for this contract?

If not, is there a motion to approve to new business?

Motion hearing no objections, 8.13 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you both for joining.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Moving us along, 8.14 and 8.15.

There was a request for a one-week bring back.

Motion to bring back in one week.

Hearing no objections, 8.14 and 8.15 will be brought back in one week.

These are both of our CDI contracts, by the way.

8.16.

This is contract number 6007 eight nine three.

This is to provide HRD a floor renovation.

Uh, we were also asked to bring this back in one week.

If there's a motion to do so, motion to bring back in one week.

Hearing no objection, 8.16 will be brought back in one week under the office of Chief Financial Officer, Office of Development and Grants.

8.17 is a public safety foundation request to accept a fiscal year 2026 occupy the summer grants.

This is to help support youth leadership and empowerments for after school programming.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.17?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 8.17 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve under the department of public works, city engineering division.

8.18 is a petition of the downtown boxing gym youth program.

This is a request for vacation.

Motion to discuss, vice chair.

Actually, could I make a motion to send 8.17 to new business?

Yes, sir.

There's a request, a motion to send 8.17.

The grants for summer programming, after school programming to new business.

Hearing no objection, 8.17 will be approved.

Sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

So we are back to 8.18.

This is a request to vacate around the downtown boxing gym.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.18?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 8.18 will be approved.

Central formal with the recommendation to approve.

8.19 is a petition of Greek town neighborhood partnership for multiple encroachments.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.19?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 8.19 will be approved.

Sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

8.20 is a petition of the Detroit Regional Convention Facility Authority.

If there is a motion to approve or discuss.

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 8.20 will be approved.

Send a formal with the recommendation to approve.

8.19 petition of new investment properties.

8.19.

Excuse me, 8.21.

Yeah.

I don't know what I'm looking at, everyone.

Um 8.21 is a petition of the new investment properties LLC.

They are requesting encroachments for bike loops and other decorative pavements around Verners right of way.

If there is a motion to approve or discuss, there's a motion to approve.

Yes.

Hearing no objections, 8.21 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

82 is a petition of Westone, oh Wetsoon Property LLC.

They are requesting to vacate.

This will be for the commencement of their construction.

So I actually have just brief questions for 8.22.

There's a motion to discuss.

Motion.

Thank you, Member Waters.

We should have Richard Doherty on with us if we can make him into a panelist.

To the chair, yes, he's been promoted to panelist.

Thank you.

Good afternoon.

We just crossed the threshold.

So good afternoon.

Good afternoon, if you wouldn't mind seeing your naming title for the public.

Thank you for joining us, sir.

I just have brief questions for 8.22.

This is the Wetsoon property.

I'm not aware of it.

So the uh property owner uh owns properties on either side of this alley.

Uh, the alley that would be vacated and converted to an easement uh wouldn't allow they wouldn't be able to build any structures over it so that this any utilities that are under the pavement can still remain there.

But they uh they're developing a quick service automotive maintenance facility.

So they within so this half of an alley will uh get incorporated into their site, uh, become a part of the parking lot, et cetera.

But utilities and that would still be able to access uh their assets within the old vacated alleyway because we're preserving the utility easement for them, but the alley will still continue uh to the east uh uh north and east, so there will still remain access for others wishing to use the alley.

Okay, and you mentioned what kind of business is this again?

It's an automotive service maintenance facility, so I would expect oil changes, you know, whatever, you know, those types of services uh on the site.

Okay, understood.

Thank you.

Um other questions.

Um just want to flag for I guess any of my colleagues making sure that this is okay.

I know that in our district, whenever something auto-related uh comes up, we need to verify that they are just good neighbors.

Um I don't know where this is located.

Um, but it it says here that all approvals um have been met, so that there were no objections to this.

Um just a flag for my colleagues.

Um, if this is in your district, just to verify that they're good partners.

Um, but I have no other questions for 8.22, unless there are any other questions for 8.22.

Seeing none, is there a motion to approve?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, eight points 22 will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, Mr.

Doherty.

I think we have a few more just in case um we have any questions for you.

Um eight points twenty-three.

This is a petition of Crystal Marie Events, they are requesting to vacate um with utility easement.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss eight points 23?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, eight points 23 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

8.24 is a petition of Amir.

They are requesting to vacate uh with utility easement.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss eight points 24 discussion?

Vice Chair, we do have Mr.

Doherty on with us who might be able to answer any questions to our vice chair.

Thank you, Mal Chair.

Mr.

Doherty, if you could just go on to a little bit more about this petition.

Uh sure enough.

The uh petitioner, they're uh looking to vacate this alley.

It's an east-west alley that parallels uh Joy Road.

The north south alley that uh would typically come into this alley has already been vacated, so this would complete the the vacations of the alleys and the split in this area.

Uh they are uh looking to do it to uh um uh encompass the alleyway into their property they own on both sides of the alley, and uh they would just they want to uh control the site better, get rid of illegal dumping vandalism, etc.

By maintaining the public uh utilities meant they would not be able to construct over the alley.

Okay, thank you.

I'm just taking a look one second.

Uh, do you know what type of business this is?

I see it comes up as welding, but it it says that this is closed.

So do you know what type of uh business this is?

I don't personally know offhand.

Uh like we can uh get that information for tomorrow, you know, forwarded to you all prior to going to council to the full board.

Vice chair, it's an auto shop.

Okay, it's an auto repair shop.

It's all right on time auto.

Gotcha.

Thank you.

Thank you, madam chair.

Can um can we bring this back in one week?

Yes, sir.

There's a request to bring back eight points twenty-four in one week.

Hearing no objections, eight points twenty-four will be brought back in one week.

Thank you both.

I believe that's our last one.

Thank you, Mr.

Doherty.

Yeah.

Moving us along under miscellaneous eight points twenty-five.

This is a memo relative to the dangerous buildings process.

This has uh, I'm not sure if it needs to be um assigned to BC if it has already been sent to BC.

Uh is there a motion to discuss?

Discussion.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Um if this was assigned to BC, I can just ask the uh administration how much time they would need to bring this back.

Mr.

Washington.

Yes, uh, through the chair, can we request two weeks on this memo?

Motion motion hearing no objections, eight points twenty-five will be brought back in two weeks.

And then for eight points twenty-six, thank you, Mr.

Washington.

For eight point twenty six, this is a memo relative to a request.

Oh, this was a resolution to prioritize the demolition of properties.

I do believe is there motion to discuss?

Motion.

Thank you to LPD.

I heard this was on its way to be completed or almost completed, or would we try to move uh walk this on tomorrow?

I don't recall.

Uh, we would like to ask for one week.

You need one week.

Okay, and that would work fine because next week we're gonna discuss demolitions.

Okay.

Is there a motion to bring eight points 26 back in one week?

Motion hearing no objections, 8.26 will be brought back in one week.

This brings us down to member reports.

Uh, to our vice chair.

Thank you, madam chair.

I would just say for my member report that next Thursday, uh July 23rd, we'll have our monthly meeting for D7.

It will be virtual next Thursday, July 23rd at 6 p.m.

on Zoom.

Um, if you are looking to join us, we will send we sent it out on our e-news.

We have on social media, but you can reach out to our office to get the details to join.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair Member Waters.

No report.

All right, just want to say huge thank you to Team GSR who came out this weekend and uh to all of our constituents that joined us for our annual celebration.

It was really beautiful.

Great food, great entertainments.

We gave out a few spirit of Detroit awards to some really deserving people.

Um, so thank you for a really beautiful day.

Just want to remind my colleagues and district six residents that today at 6 p.m.

at the fourth precinct, we will be having a bridging neighborhoods resolution amendment public hearing.

Uh so I will see folks soon.

Uh with that, since there's nothing else before us, we are now adjourned.