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El Paso City Council Meeting - April 14, 2026: Proclamations, Bond Issuances, and Deck Plaza MOU

City CouncilTuesday, April 14, 2026
BodyEl Paso, Texas
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, April 14, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:44

Good morning.

0:45

Good morning, Al Paso.

0:46

Buenos días, bienvenidos.

0:48

I want to give a warm welcome to everyone who is joining us in Council Chambers this morning.

0:53

Thank you for being here.

0:54

Miss Prime.

0:56

Yes, good morning, and welcome to the presentation of the mayor's proclamations.

1:00

This morning we have Mayor Po Tim Alejandra Chavez present and presiding.

1:05

We begin with a pledge of allegiance, and this morning to lead us in the pledge, we have students from Coach Wally Hartley PK eight school.

1:13

At the invitation of City Representative Diana Maldonado Rocha, we have Paloma White Seeker, Casey Johnson, Harper Wine, Aurora Daniel, Ian Menchen, Darwin Pimentel, Vince Bernal, Valentina Castro, Alia Lyaka, Kayleigh Boo, Isabella Salas, Lux Arenas, Kaylee Queto, and Keanu Curtis.

5:51

And you all for freedom.

6:15

Thank you guys.

6:24

Thank you guys.

6:36

That brings us to the mayor's proclamations.

6:39

For those of you receiving a proclamation, your group will have up to four minutes collectively to speak at the podium and receive the proclamation.

6:47

After you receive the proclamation, you will be invited to take a photo with a council.

6:53

The first proclamation is Sexual Awareness Month, 2026.

7:02

Representative Rocha.

7:04

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem Chavez.

7:06

If I can have those that are here, I see them in the audience.

7:10

I saw them this morning.

7:11

There they are.

7:14

Here we go.

7:18

Thank you for coming to City Hall today.

7:20

I'm going to read your proclamation.

7:24

Whereas sexual violence affects individuals and families across all communities and backgrounds, causing lasting trauma and significant harm.

7:35

Studies indicate that one in three women and one in six men experience some form of sexual violence in their lifetime.

7:44

With many cases going unreported, highlighting the urgent need for awareness, prevention, and survivor support.

7:54

And whereas the Center against Sexual and Family Violence has served the city of El Paso with comprehensive prevention, advocacy, support, and education for survivors of sexual assault and their families.

8:18

Provided sexual assault services to more than one thousand survivors, and responded to over 240 hospital accompaniment calls across area hospitals.

9:11

And whereas CASVI's theme, consent is loud, emphasizes the importance of clear communication, mutual respect, affirmative consent, and community accountability in preventing sexual violence.

9:26

And whereas educating individuals and communities about consent, healthy relationships, bystander intervention, and equitable treatment, strength and safety, and respect across all settings.

9:46

Excuse me, and fostering a culture of accountability and care.

9:51

Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the mayor and council of the City of El Paso that the month of April 2026 shall be known as Sexual Assault Awareness Month, 2026, signed by the Honorable Mayor Renard Johnson.

10:14

Good morning.

10:15

Good morning.

10:17

It's truly an honor to be here with you, representatives and mayor pro tem.

10:21

My name is Sandra Navarrez Garcia, I'm the executive director to the Center Against Sexual and Family Violence.

10:26

And as Ms.

10:27

Rocha mentioned, sexual assault affects all individuals and affects our community, it affects our households, family members, just everyone across the board.

10:36

And oftentimes it's something that we're really unprepared for.

10:40

And so in our true theme, this this particular month of consent is allowed.

10:44

We want to be able to emphasize that consent should be clear, it should be active, it should be ongoing, never assumed or implied.

10:51

And I think those are really important words because I think oftentimes we believe that you ask once, and that's just the answer for here until the end of time.

11:13

But this conversation is very much like our theme is continuous and is ongoing year after year.

11:20

These are services that we provide both to individuals in the hospital, in person, on the phone, via chat, however, it is that the individual wants to access the services because we understand that it's difficult to come forward.

11:34

You obviously know we're also your local domestic violence program.

11:38

And I think that those individuals victimized by domestic violence are more likely to come forward and receive services, whereas our survivors of sexual assault is really more of a challenge.

11:49

And so think of you know, God forbid, anyone in this room, today you're living your most normal life.

11:55

Tonight something happens, and tomorrow your world has been flipped upside down.

11:59

And all you want to do is go back to yesterday.

12:01

And so we are there to be able to provide that support to those individuals from the yesterday and for me even going forward.

12:08

So oftentimes I think one of the messages we want to make sure that survivors know is that whether you need us today, tomorrow, a year from now, five years from now, that's what the center is here to provide.

12:20

Support, direction, options and resources for you to access.

12:24

This year, and we'll we'll share one with you is we have every um awareness month, we come up with a calendar of events to heighten and kind of keep that conversation going, and hopefully that conversation continues at home.

12:36

And so this year we kicked off the month with Teal Day on the 7th.

12:40

Um we do have this really impactful.

12:43

I I really love our our theme of what were you wearing?

12:46

So this is a um an art piece, if you will, where we'll put we'll pull clothing of survivors that have described what they were wearing when they were victimized.

12:57

We pull them and we display them.

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And so this year we're working with an artist, um, Michael Fierro, and he has the display at Bassett Center.

13:06

And it's where the old New York and company used to be, like in the middle part of Bassett, if you're trying to figure out where it's at.

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And so what it has is this description of what that survivor has described happened.

13:17

Um, and because he's an artist, he went one step further and created the scenery, like if it happened while camping.

13:24

Um, different just kind of sceneries that he kind of created, which I think really um allows for more impact.

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And so what I will tell you is that the most difficult thing to look around is just to look around this room.

13:35

And so our displays show what you're wearing every single day.

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And so I think that that's probably the biggest impact.

13:43

People think that it's individuals in certain circumstances at certain places that are victimized, and it's not that way.

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Um, it could be any one of us.

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And so we invite you to go to that particular um exhibit.

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It's there till the 25th.

13:57

We also have our classic pickleball spring into action that we're gonna be doing for our fundraiser.

14:03

We'd love you all to join us on the 26th of April, and then we have denim day on the 29th, which will also be screening um a movie on the lawn at Traffic Arts Space, and so you're more than welcome to join us there as well.

14:15

We do have some individuals from the center that um came with us.

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So it's our director of client services, one of our board members, and our associate director of sexual assault services along with our development director.

14:25

So it's truly an honor to be here with you this morning.

14:28

Thank you.

14:35

Thank you so much.

14:36

Does everyone want to introduce themselves that's standing behind you?

14:39

Sure.

14:41

Hi, good morning.

14:42

Thank you so much for the time.

14:43

My name is Yasmin Perez.

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I'm the director of client services for the center.

14:47

Good morning.

14:50

Good morning, everyone.

14:51

My name is Guadalupe Rubio, and I am the director of development with the center.

14:54

Thank you.

14:55

Good morning.

14:58

Good morning, everyone.

15:00

My name is Sarah Silva, and I'm the Associate Director of Sexual Assault Services at the Center.

15:04

Good morning.

15:06

Good morning, everyone.

15:07

I'm Cynthia Ortega and part of the board for CASV.

15:11

Good morning.

15:12

Thank you all for being here.

15:14

Studies show that one in three women and one in six men experience sexual violence with many incidents, as you just mentioned, go going unreported, underscoring the need for community awareness and prevention.

15:26

So throughout the month of April, we want to encourage our community, our residents to support survivors, promote education, and engage in prevention and help build a culture rooted in safety, dignity, and respect for all.

15:39

Thank you so much for being here.

15:41

Thank you for your time.

15:47

Representative Rocha.

15:49

One quick question.

15:51

On the crisis hope line, how does one contact you?

15:55

So it's the 5937300, and it's confidential 24 hours a day.

16:00

We also have a chat feature that's available.

16:04

Thank you.

16:04

How do they access the chat?

16:06

Is it through that number?

16:07

It's through through the website.

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The website will pop up and show you that information.

16:11

And again, we intake people at all times of the day.

16:14

We do have a 24-hour hospital accompaniment team that these lovely young ladies supervise.

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And so 24 hours a day right now, we have an advocate on call and just standing by if you know God needed that we need to go to the hospital and accompany someone.

16:27

Thank you for that.

16:28

I appreciate it.

16:29

You're very welcome.

16:30

Thank you.

18:33

And the next proclamation is Desert Conference of Texas and Gala Day's convocation.

18:40

Representative Fierro.

18:42

No, Representative Nino, excuse me, sorry.

18:45

Yes.

18:48

Thank you, Mayor Potem.

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If you have the honores, come and join us.

18:54

Good morning.

18:56

It's an honor to read today's proclamation.

18:58

Proclamation for the city of El Paso, Texas.

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Whereas in June 1893, the ancient Egyptian Arabic Order Nobles of the Mystic Shrine was organized and established under the leadership of John George Jones and the Auxiliary, the Imperial Court Daughters was established in 1910.

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And whereas both were established as benefent and charable organizations whose members are dedicated to the principles of fostering civic, economic, and educational development and programs throughout the community.

19:30

And we're as the oral temple number nine of the AEO A O N MS and Oral Court number 20, Imperial Court Daughters of El Paso, Texas, will host its annual state Desert Conference of Texas and Gallaudet Convocation on April 16th through the 18th, 2026 at the Winham Hotel.

20:00

And whereas the goal of the Desert Conference of Texas and Gallaudet Convocation is to bring membership together to enhance their mission, renew their purpose, further enrich the hosting community through charity, benefits, education, and pay tribute to those who have sacrificed their lives daily for freedom, the military service members.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the mayor and the council of the city of El Paso, offering best wishes to the desert of Texas for a successful event, April 16th through the 18th, 2026, shall be known as Desert Conference of Texas and Gala Days Convocation, signed by the Honorable Mayor Renard Johnson.

20:31

Thank you.

20:36

Good morning, Council, Council members.

20:49

We have the our public program beginning Thursday night at 7 p.m.

20:53

where the mayor will be our guest speaker.

20:56

We'll be giving us scholarships, community donations, and we will salute, we'll give a salute to our military.

21:01

So we have a little military program we would get we were going to go to.

21:05

Then Friday morning we have a memorial, which is a tribute to our deceased members.

21:12

And then Friday night, we have what's called a hospitality dance at the Windham as well.

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And then Saturday, we have our deputy's ball as we continue to uh have our meetings.

21:24

But then, you know, uh hopefully the city manager can come and tell up tell a little bit about the city while we have over 200 visitors that's going to be here so they can see what El Paso is really all about.

21:35

So thank you again for your time.

21:37

I have with me uh members of my desert staff, I have uh my desert organizer, uh Michael Hall, my desert higher priest and prophet, Nate Gasson.

21:48

I have uh members of the oral court, we have the luscious commanders, Shauna Battle, uh, her first lieutenant, Miss Uh Dorothy Sissy Bird, and Miss Lauren Gasson.

22:01

Thank you.

22:09

Thank you, and and welcome to uh City Hall.

22:13

Thank you.

22:13

We uh we are happy that you were will be celebrating uh your Texas Gala and Days convocation, and um we want to congratulate you on your mission of expanding charitable work, promoting education, and honoring our military service.

22:29

So thank you.

22:30

I'm happy that the the mayor will be your guest speaker, and uh the city manager will also be supporting your efforts.

22:36

So thank you so much for your service to our community.

22:38

Thank you.

23:14

Let me make sure I get this.

23:17

How tall do you think they are?

23:39

I don't think if I fall, I don't get a pretty sure it was just my phone, but I look like a book.

24:43

And the next proclamation is Guardians of the Children, Sun City, Chapter Day.

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Good morning.

25:01

Good morning.

25:02

Welcome.

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The proclamation reads Whereas the City of El Paso is committed to protecting the safety, dignity, and well-being of all children, and to raising awareness about the prevention of child abuse in all of its forms.

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And whereas April is recognized nationally as Child Abuse Prevention Month, a time dedicated to education, advocacy, and community collaboration to ensure that children grow up in safe, supportive, and nurturing environments.

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And whereas Guardians of the Children International established in June 2006, and its Sun City chapter established in June 2015 are dedicated to recognizing and responding to the threat of child abuse while empowering children through education, advocacy, and unwavering support serving the El Paso community with a team of committed volunteers.

25:55

And whereas the Sun City Chapter works collaboratively with local organizations and agencies, including Child Protective Services, the El Paso Center Against Sexual and Family Violence, Communities in School, the El Paso Motorcycle Coalition, the District Attorney's Office, Law Enforcement, and other partners to provide education, anti-bullying outreach, and coordinated efforts to prevent child abuse and support victims.

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And whereas, through programs such as Little Guardian mentorship program, the organization provides advocacy and emotional support to children involved in the judicial process and continues to support them through critical stages of their development, ensuring long-term stability, encouragement, and empowerment.

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And whereas, through its ongoing efforts in education, mentorship, advocacy, and community partnership, guardians of the children, Sun City chapter has made a meaningful and lasting impact on the lives of vulnerable children and families throughout the El Paso community.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the mayor and council of the City of El Paso, honoring the organization's unwavering commitment to protecting children, raising awareness, and fostering a safer and more compassionate community for all.

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April 14th, 2026 shall be known as Guardians of the Children's Sun City Chapter Day, signed by the Honorable Mayor Renard Johnson.

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Congratulations.

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Don't let your silence jound up that cry.

27:51

This proclamation is a great honor, and we are great very grateful to the City of El Paso and our esteemed council for recognizing our efforts in this very important mission, one that I hope that we all share as a community.

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As guardians, we come from all walks of life.

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Our chapter, in our chapter alone, we have educators, business owners, and operators, radio celebrity, computer techs, customs and border patrol, mental health professionals, reservists, veterans, employees in corporate America, and homemakers.

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The common ground is our love for children and the desire to help them through what is arguably the most difficult time in their lives.

28:27

The Guardians of the Children International, as you mentioned, is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year in June.

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And our own chapter is celebrating its 11th anniversary this June.

28:37

In Texas, there are approximately 650,000 reports of child abuse annually.

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Approximately 75% of these cases are some forms of neglect.

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15% are physical abuse, and 10% are sexual abuse or trafficking.

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That's approximately 20,498 children being physically abused, and 13,665 being sexually abused or trafficked annually.

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These are all unacceptable numbers.

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Any number over zero is unacceptable.

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Sadly, these are only the cases that get reported.

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It's estimated that only one in every three cases gets reported.

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That means of the approximate 52,000 confirmed cases equates to a true number of abused children reaching an excess of 156,000 annually.

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Until then, when a child calls, we invite the Apostle community to Barnett Harley Davidson this Saturday at twelve o'clock noon.

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We'll be having a child abuse prevention and awareness month event where we will have approximately fourteen community partners serving the Opaso community for families and children who are in crisis.

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We'll have food, we'll have fun, we'll have a lot of games and a lot of motorcycles.

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So we hope to see you all there.

30:35

Thank you so very much.

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I'm the founding member of our chapter.

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Well, thank you.

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For me, uh, all of you are a signal of hope for children in our community and beyond.

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Thank you for taking care of the most vulnerable and the voiceless in our community, and for encouraging all of us to speak up for them as well.

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Thank you for the work that you're doing.

32:44

Thank you so much for being here.

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I can go all the way to 10.

35:49

Okay, so thank you so much.

35:56

And the next proclamation is City of Socoro, 40th anniversary of Incorporation Day.

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Okay.

36:05

Now Representative Fierro.

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Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem for allowing me to read this proclamation.

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Everybody who can come up.

36:14

Great.

36:15

Welcome.

36:16

Oh my we need the native son uh from Socorro to join us up here.

36:22

Please come up here.

36:25

Yes, Crillous, the executive director and Nami.

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Thank you again, Mayor Pro Tem.

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Whereas the City of Socorro, Texas is one of the oldest communities in El Paso region with rich history rooted in culture, faith, resilience, and community pride, and was officially incorporated as a municipality on April 5th, 1986, making 40 years of continued growth, governance, and service to its residents.

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And through consistent population growth, documented by ongoing cess sentence tracking, has expanded to just under 40,000 residents and continues to grow steadily as El Paso County's second largest uh city, reflecting its enduring appeal as a place to live, work, and raise a family.

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Whereas over the past four decades, the city of Socoro has evolved into a vibrant diverse city, committed to preserving its historical legis legacy, while planning their thoughtfully for the future and demonstrating its steadfast commitment to celebrating, promoting, protecting, and preserving its unique cultural heritage through investing along the mission trail.

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The achievement of the National Historic Landmark designation for the Rio Vista Farm, whereas the City of Socorro is widely recognized for its welcoming hospitality, well-attended community events, the tremendous civic pride demonstrated by Socorroids who actively celebrate, support, and invest in their city.

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On behalf of the City of Socorro, we are honored to recognize and celebrate our fortieth anniversary of Incorporation.

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For 40 years, we have grown into a proud and vibrant community grounded in our history, culture, and traditions.

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This milestone reflects the strength and dedication of our residents, past and present, who have helped shape our city.

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We would also like to thank the City of El Paso for its continued partnership and support as we grow together in the region.

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We are proud to commemorate this special occasion with you, and thank you very much.

40:45

Thank you, Victor, and all of you for coming and for being here, and congratulations on your 40th anniversary.

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We also appreciate your partnership with the City of El Paso, and we look forward to working together closely with you in in this in many projects in the in the future.

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Thank you so much for being here.

43:54

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

43:56

Excited to read this proclamation.

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Proclamation City of El Paso, Texas, whereas for more than half a century, Earth Day launched in 1970, a day intended to raise awareness and appreciation of the Earth's natural environment.

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And whereas all people in the El Paso community, regardless of raise, age, income, or gender, have a moral right to a healthy, sustainable environment.

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And whereas commemorating Earth Day in the region highlights environmental initiatives related to climate change recycling and waste reduction.

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And whereas the City of El Paso Environmental Services Department annually hosts an Earth Day celebration to educate the community about programs promoting sustainability and environmental change.

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And whereas a healthy and sustainable environment can be achieved on the community level by encouraging residents to engage in activities such as cleanups to be agents of change for the common good.

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And whereas the City of El Paso's environmental services will host its annual Earth Day celebration at 6 p.m.

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on April 11th at the City of El Paso Municipal Services Center, 7968 San Paulo Drive, which was this past weekend.

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Um therefore be a proclaimed by the mayor and council of the city of El Paso that the city's environmental services department be recognized and commended for their hard work, dedication, and commitment to the community.

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April 2026 shall be known as Mission, Save the Earth Month.

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Signed the Honorable Reynard Johnson.

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Uh Nicolas Ivaro with environmental services.

45:24

Uh thank you for the proclamation.

45:25

You know, as the United States uh prepares to celebrate their 56th anniversary of Earth Day on April 22nd.

45:32

Um this was our 15th year celebrating here with the City of Alpeso, so it was our quince and it's a this past weekend as everybody's calling it behind me.

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Um as environmental services, we we don't just pick up trash, recycling, clean the mediums.

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We also try to educate as much as possible to recycle, reduce, and reuse and take care of El Paso as much as we can.

45:51

If it wasn't for the staff behind me, they're the ones that put everything together.

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I I get a lot of the credit, but it's really them that do all the work that make sure we have the vendors, the food trucks, the entertainment, everything that has to do with Earth Day, and they're also the ones that if any of you have taken the recycling class, it's their voices that you hear in the recycling class that are providing all the information that is needed for the residents.

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So before I keep going, I want them to come up and introduce themselves.

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Hello, I'm Priscilla Caballero, I'm community outreach and educational supervisor.

46:23

Good morning, everyone.

46:24

My name is Sarah Harris, and I'm an outreach specialist.

46:28

Good morning, everyone.

46:29

My name is Aaron Quintana, and I'm an outreach specialist.

46:33

Good morning, everyone.

46:34

My name is Annie Marron, and I am an outreach specialist.

46:39

Good morning.

46:40

My name is Priscilla Lopez, and I'm an outreach specialist.

46:45

Good morning, everyone.

46:46

My name is Marisa Lavasquez, and I'm also an outreach specialist.

46:51

Good morning, everybody.

46:52

My name is Philip, and I'm an outreach specialist.

46:58

Morning, everybody.

46:59

Uh Jesus Maguchi, Assistant Director.

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And then we also have Mundo behind us, but we don't want to break the fourth wall letting them know who who's behind the mask.

47:09

So we'll let him know.

47:10

He's he's at all their events.

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Um in addition, I I want to uh let you know like when we do the community cleanups, these are also the the staff that help and take care of all the community cleanups, organize the roll of uh that show up to the event and help all with all the equipment.

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So I'm very grateful for the staff and everything they do because without them none of this would be possible.

47:28

So thank you for the proclamation.

47:34

Thank you, Nick and team.

47:36

Representative Nino.

47:37

Thank you, Mayor Pro Temp and Nick and the entire team.

47:40

I am extremely grateful for all the work that you all do.

47:44

And you know, I know you kind of touch base on the community cleanups, and you know, it's uh all of our responsibility, you know, to come together and really take care of our community.

47:53

And I'm very grateful for all the work that you all have done over the years to ensure that you know, not just the regular trash pickup, but also cleaning our streets, our medians, our neighborhoods, and also for collaborating with us um in our community cleanups.

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And I'm gonna take this time to also invite members of the community where we'll have a cleanup this Saturday in District 5 on the corner of Monwood and Rich Beam, and we invite members of the public to bring bulk trash.

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And again, this is the collaboration with environmental services in celebration of Earth Month, allowing individuals to come and dispose of that bulk trash and really clean up and take care of be have pride of our community.

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So again, we're extremely grateful for all the work that each one of you does.

48:36

Um I'm I'm a huge fan of the environmental services team, and we're looking forward to you know further collaborations and really taking care of our community.

48:46

So thank you for everything that you guys do.

48:48

Thank you.

48:51

Representative Limon.

48:56

Thank you very much.

48:57

And what a quinceanera it was.

49:00

We skirted the weather a little bit, but it came through.

49:04

What a fabulous event.

49:06

It was really nice.

49:07

I was there for a good part of it, but as I was leaving, people were still arriving, people were coming through.

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I think that you guys throw a fabulous party, and it's such a pleasure to always see it.

49:20

How environmental services, parking lot, and the park are taken over for some time and the community comes out and enjoys it.

49:28

Um you guys are the greeters.

49:30

It it's it's great to arrive.

49:33

And I know that uh there was some concern because parking was a little bit kind of crazy.

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And and someone said, where's Representative Limun gonna park?

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And Yamaguchi said, Oh, she'll park wherever she wants.

49:46

She can have whatever space she'll find some place to park.

49:50

See, we get everything back, we hear everything.

49:53

Nick, congratulations.

49:55

And it is it is your team is top notch.

50:00

I I am very proud of you guys and very appreciative for all the work that you do.

50:06

And mundo, what would we do without mundo, verdad?

50:10

And even knows how to dance cumbia.

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So I love that.

50:13

Thank you very much for all the work that you all do.

50:15

Thank you.

50:16

Appreciate it.

50:20

Representative Canales.

50:22

Thank you.

50:28

So that Mundo would be able to take their place.

50:31

Who uh who do we need to give recognition to?

50:35

Who wasn't able to be here today?

50:38

His name is Victor.

50:39

He's uh he's he's always very helpful, he's taking care of everything.

50:43

Okay, well, thank you, Victor, for staying.

50:45

First, sorry, I'm confused.

50:47

Sorry, it's I apologize.

50:49

Sorry, there that was the previous I apologize.

50:51

Ivan, I apologize.

50:52

Hey, thank you to Victor and to I guess and to Mundo for being there with us today.

50:59

Thank you all.

51:03

Thank you, Nick, and to your entire team for keeping El Paso beautiful and and supporting us as well in our all of our cleanups.

51:11

Um I I would like for you to take this opportunity and maybe sh tell the community what to do with those white plastic bags that we get at grocery stores.

51:21

So what I let everybody know in every interview I do is bag your trash, um, make sure you bag your trash.

51:26

We live in the wind one of the windiest cities in in the country.

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If you bag your trash, weigh down those plastic bags as you get at Walmart or target any of the stores.

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Just put some trash in there, tie them up and put them in your trash can.

51:36

It'll pre it'll reduce a lot of the wind blown waste that we get uh throughout the city.

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That goes for anything that goes in your grave and if you beg it, it'll reduce a lot of the wind blown waste that we have throughout the city.

51:46

Thank you.

51:46

So many of us had no earthly idea what to do with those bags.

51:50

So thank you for telling us.

51:51

Thank you.

51:52

Congratulations once again.

52:03

Thank you so much.

54:12

Thank you so much.

54:18

And the city council meeting will begin at ten a.m.

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So we have about three minutes.

54:31

Yes, ma'am.

54:34

Good morning.

54:35

This is a meeting of the El Paso City Council for Tuesday, April 14th, 2026.

54:41

Mayor Pro Tem Chavez is present and presiding in Council Chambers along with Representative Malonado Rocha, Representative Nino, alternate Mayor Pro Tem Fiero, Representative Limon, Representative Canales, Representative Boy Artrejo.

54:57

It is 10 01 AM.

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Will everyone please silence their electronic devices so as not to disturb the meeting?

55:06

And rise for the invocation delivered by El Paso Police Senior Chaplain, David Mayfield.

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Good morning.

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And thank you for the opportunity to come and pray for this council and for the community.

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It's always a highlight of my calendar.

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That being said, please join me in your faith tradition as I pray in my own.

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Gracious God.

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This room holds decisions that don't just live on paper.

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They shape neighborhoods.

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They shape families and futures.

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And so we ask for something simple, but also not easy.

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We ask for wisdom.

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The kind that listens more than it speaks.

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The kind that looks past headlines and looks into real lives.

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Lord, in a border community like ours, we we feel everything a little more closely.

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We feel the strain when resources seem tight.

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Water, energy, even opportunity.

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We feel the weight of decisions that ripple across communities on both sides of a line drawn on a map.

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And we feel the human side of it all.

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Men, women, and children navigating uncertainty, hoping for safety, dignity, and a chance to build something better.

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So today we ask for clarity in the middle of complexity, courage in the face of competing pressures.

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And above all, a spirit of observant leadership.

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Remind us that leadership isn't about winning arguments.

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It's about serving people.

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Not just the loudest voices, but also the quiet ones.

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Not just today's needs, but tomorrow's consequences.

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Give these leaders steady hands and open hearts.

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Help them to steward what has been entrusted to them wisely, fairly, and with compassion.

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And for all of us, Lord, keep us mindful that we share more than borders.

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And we ask all of this in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

58:18

That brings us to public comment on agenda items for those people that signed up to speak at 10 a.m.

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The first person is Carlos Sainz.

58:29

He signed up to speak on item number 14 on the consent agenda.

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An item 14 is the solicitation of public health accreditation consultant to ascendent health care advisors.

58:51

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

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I'm here pleasing for the YMCA and the well-being of the city.

58:56

No, Mr.

58:57

Science, are you the Carlos Sainz that signed up to speak about the solicitation on the agenda?

59:03

Item 14?

59:04

Uh yes, I guess it's the health also.

59:07

It's the this is this is the time to speak regarding the solicitation of public health accreditation consultant.

59:13

Yes, it's combined.

59:15

It's just for this item right now.

59:16

Yes, ma'am.

59:17

The health issues that's what I'm looking at.

59:19

Yes.

59:20

The quality of life, the health issues in the Northeast, combined with the closure of what?

59:24

The YWCA.

59:26

Okay, so the Y and this item.

59:36

Yeah, the contract, well, I'm led to believe this is the contract for the well-being of El Paso.

59:41

Is that correct?

59:42

Or am I wrong?

59:43

Uh service public health or welfare.

59:46

So this is also part of the contract.

59:48

If we can have these people also look at uh what's going on in the Northeast and not let us out by that, keeping us up, because this also uh referring to the YMC and the public health and the well-being of our elderly, our kids, and uh in general, the quality of life for the whole Northeast.

1:00:11

That's tens of thousands of elderly kids, moms, dads, the whole nine yards.

1:00:17

Okay, so I I strongly suggest to this company in the contract to take a hard look in the northeast area for us.

1:00:26

And basically that's all I have to say at this.

1:00:29

I have another one that I need to talk into, which consists of the YMCA again.

1:00:33

Please thank you very much for listening to me.

1:00:36

The next speaker is Joe Gutenreath.

1:00:38

Mr.

1:00:38

Gudrat signed up to speak on item 23.

1:00:44

And item 23 is a public hearing of an ordinance amending title 12 vehicles in traffic.

1:00:50

Do you want me to address 32 as well?

1:00:51

And he also signed up to speak on item 32, which is a memorandum of understanding with the City of El Paso and the Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation.

1:01:03

Good morning morning, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council, City Staff.

1:01:06

Again, Joe Gudenreth with the I'm the executive director of the Downtown Management District, as well as a member of the Deck Plaza Foundation Board, pulling double duty today in terms of items 23 and 32.

1:01:18

First 23 regarding the creation of the electronically operated parking control systems section of city code and the means for issuing parking citations by mail.

1:01:28

The DMD views our parking and right-of-way spaces as resources meant to support the operation and usage of our downtown to accommodate the variety of needs and users, professional strategies and effective management practices must be put into place.

1:01:43

I want to thank Steve Alvarado and Paul Stresso for supporting and pursuing these objectives.

1:01:48

That said, as a parking system, we we always must realize that as we change one aspect, we should recognize that there will be impacts throughout the system and always work to maintain a balance within the system to support enhance and enhance system usage.

1:02:03

For example, we have people who park illegally in alleys.

1:02:16

While we pursue enhanced enforcement of this violation, the parking system must also anticipate and accommodate where these parkers will go and attempt to balance our system.

1:02:27

In short, we must enhance enforcement but also enhance the accommodation so that we don't discourage users from coming downtown at all.

1:02:37

I look forward to working with Steve and Paul to support our parking users, maximize the usage of resources, and maintain a balanced system that provides accommodation options and opportunities for the variety of users downtown.

1:02:49

Lastly, as we work to improve the professional management of our systems, I must also ask that parking revenues be removed from the general fund and maintained for parking uh enhancements and the overall areas within within and around where we collect parking revenues.

1:03:07

Second, with my last minute item 32 regarding the MOU between the city, the county, and the Deck Plaza Foundation.

1:03:13

First, I stand by in front of you, inspired by the vision and cooperation by the city, the county, and the private sector surrounding the pursuit of this once-in-a-generation opportunity for our community.

1:03:24

This community has seen too many opportunities pass by because we could not work together for a common cause.

1:03:30

Our governments are constantly being challenged by various pressures and externalities that impact budgets, burden our community, and threaten our quality of life.

1:03:38

The answer to these challenges will not be solved without taking actions that will improve our long-term trajectory.

1:03:44

We have seen the impact of deck parks across the country.

1:03:47

These projects have proven to reconnect communities, drive in fill development, and provide amazing community spaces for our entire community to enjoy.

1:03:56

We can achieve those benefits and joy and enjoy them for years to come.

1:03:59

I encourage you to support the MOU and help us implement that project.

1:04:04

Thank you very much.

1:04:05

Also speaking regarding item 32, the MOU is Leila Mayorga.

1:04:11

Leila Mayorga, followed by Jimena Guerrero.

1:04:20

And followed by Joshua Royce.

1:04:24

Good morning.

1:04:25

You have three minutes.

1:04:27

Good morning, Council.

1:04:28

My name is Layla Mayorga, and I'm a resident of District 5, as well as a student at UTEP.

1:04:33

I'm here today to respectfully ask for your guys' support in approving the MOU between the City of El Paso, El Paso County, and the Downtown DAG Plaza Foundation.

1:04:43

This agreement brings together public partners at every level, along with private philanthropy to make this project financially possible and sustainable for long term.

1:04:52

TechSDOT will move forward with the reconstruction of I-10 in downtown El Paso with or without this project.

1:05:00

And this is a once in a generation opportunity to reclaim over six acres of space and turn it into something that serves our community instead of dividing it.

1:05:08

Beyond that, this project makes strong economic sense.

1:05:12

The deck plaza is expected to generate nearly one billion dollars in economic activity, bring over a million new visitors to downtown each year, and support long-term job creation.

1:05:22

It will also encourage a new housing and business development, which expands our tax base and helps reduce the burden on residential taxpayers.

1:05:31

On a personal level, this means a lot to me.

1:05:34

I have many family members who visit from a smaller border town called Del Rio, Texas, and I want to be able to show them where I grew up and feel proud of the city I call home.

1:05:44

I want them to see a downtown that is vibrant, welcoming, and full of life.

1:05:49

Lastly, I'm also the older sister of two younger siblings.

1:05:52

One of them is nine and seven, and I often think about the kind of experiences I want them to have.

1:05:58

I want a place where I can take them on the weekends to be active, spend time outdoors, enjoy being kids, instead of staying inside the house with their tablet screens with nothing to do.

1:06:09

This project is about investing in the future of El Paso, strengthening our economy, improving quality of life, and creating a space that bring up brings our community together.

1:06:19

I understand that I'm young, but I do understand how money works, that things cost money, that things can be expensive, but I do know the meaning of a dollar and how much work that this will take to do, but I really appreciate your guys' consideration with the decision.

1:06:35

And I appreciate your time and leadership.

1:06:37

Thank you.

1:06:39

The next speaker is Jimena Guerrero.

1:06:46

Jimena Guerrero will be followed by Joshua Ruiz, Carlos Sainz, Ricardo Mora, and Manny Rodriguez.

1:06:54

Good morning.

1:06:55

Good morning.

1:06:56

Good morning, Mayor Pro Tem and Council.

1:06:58

My name is Jimena Guerrero.

1:06:59

I am a resident of the Far East, and I am here in strong support of item 32.

1:07:04

Today I want to talk not just about connection, but about having a place at the table.

1:07:09

Because right now, for many people across El Paso, especially young people, it can feel like we're not always included in shaping the future of our own city.

1:07:17

And what we're missing isn't talent or ambition.

1:07:20

It's a clear shared vision for where we're going and how we're going to get there.

1:07:24

Projects like the Deck Plaza are about more than infrastructure.

1:07:27

They're about deciding who gets to be a part of that future.

1:07:30

They're about creating a space where people from every part of the city feel like they belong.

1:07:42

It's about being represented and like they have a stake in what's being built.

1:07:46

I also want to recognize the level of collaboration behind this project.

1:07:50

It's not easy to bring together the city, county, state, and federal partners and private philanthropy.

1:07:55

But that kind of coordination is exactly what real progress requires.

1:07:59

It shows that we are capable of thinking bigger and working together towards a shared goal.

1:08:04

And I understand that with any project of this scale, there are valid concerns about cost and responsibility, but I don't believe that physical responsibility and forward thinking investment are opposites.

1:08:14

We can and should do both.

1:08:16

We can manage a healthy, responsible budget while still investing in projects that generate long-term economic growth, attract opportunity, and improve quality of life for our residents.

1:08:26

In fact, that's exactly how we build a stronger, more sustainable city.

1:08:30

Because when downtown thrives, the entire city benefits.

1:08:33

It creates economic activity, supports local businesses, and gives people, especially young professionals, a reason to stay and build their lives here.

1:08:41

It's also about connection in a very real physical way.

1:08:44

For decades, I-10 has divided our neighborhoods.

1:08:47

This is a chance to do something different, to create a space that brings people together instead of reinforcing that divide.

1:08:53

This is a once in a generation opportunity, not just to build infrastructure, but to define what kind of community we want to be.

1:09:00

I urge you to support this agreement and hope move El Paso forward together.

1:09:05

Thank you so much for your time and for your leadership.

1:09:08

The next speaker is Joshua Ruiz.

1:09:13

Joshua Ruiz, if you're in the queue, star six, please to unmute your telephone.

1:09:20

Joshua Ruiz.

1:09:23

Star 6 to unmute your telephone.

1:09:28

I don't see that phone number in the queue.

1:09:31

Oh, there, there he is.

1:09:32

Go ahead, Mr.

1:09:33

Ruiz.

1:09:34

You have three minutes.

1:09:39

You're back on mute.

1:09:41

Star 6, please, to unmute your telephone.

1:09:47

Joshua Ruiz.

1:09:48

Okay, go ahead.

1:09:49

You have three minutes.

1:09:52

You're back on mute.

1:09:53

It would be his call dropped.

1:09:55

I'll come back to him.

1:09:57

Uh we'll move on with Carlos Sainz.

1:10:00

He also signed up to speak on item 32, the memorandum of understanding with a deck plaza.

1:10:11

He will be followed by Nadia Antoine.

1:10:14

Go ahead.

1:10:15

This is item 32.

1:10:16

Yes ma'am again with YMCA service this is item 32 this is the deck plaza item.

1:10:25

Please limit your comments just to that item at this time.

1:10:29

Here we go deck plaza.

1:10:31

And can you please speak into the microphone so we can hear you plaza city of El Paso has spent 75,000 on a deck plaza.

1:10:41

One million dollars on a bond supposedly that us the taxpayers are going to be paying for which again I go back again the city of El Paso or us taxpayers do not really want.

1:10:52

If you guys are going to do something well put it up to a vote on the Deck Plaza.

1:10:56

Let the city decide because it's all this money that's being given to the deck plaza out of general funds without asking us in my view very improper.

1:11:06

No matter what the politics might be and everything else you should be more concerned in reference to what our community in the Northeast and other communities around El Paso and wasting this money on the DAC Plaza is no good.

1:11:18

And a lot of us disagree a lot of us taxpayers disagree on a on the deck plaza.

1:11:24

So if you guys are going to waste any more money or propose any more money put it to the vote to the citizens of El Paso not make decisions for us because it's our money.

1:11:34

And this connects to again back again to the YWCA.

1:11:40

Okay all this connects to our communities our city our people so please put it to a vote let the citizens of El Paso decide not you guys the citizens of El Paso.

1:11:52

The commissioner court made a decision yesterday and I'm led to believe you guys have the final decision on spending millions of dollars again when our budget is very low.

1:12:01

But again I go back YMCA needs help from you guys the Northeast from five points all the way to Chaparral that's the only thing we have other than the parks and recreation that the swimming pools are all closed because of repairs and everything else but more than anything more than anything our elderly people like the YMCA because it has a warm pool for our therapy okay because we cannot be jumping around young kids young folks jumping out lower being happy and us trying to swim and we can't that's the bottom line plus it provides us with the warm pool the sauna for our bodies for arthritis for our medical issues and they're closing it down and you guys are investing 7500 one million dollars to the deck plaza come on people you guys can do a lot better a lot better than what you guys are deciding.

1:12:58

I don't know who's pulling your buttons but you got no reason to invest so much money on this puppy it's a pipe cream because at the end you're also gonna ask us a 50 50 50 for the entrepreneurs that want to invest and us no taxpayers going to pay another 50% into it so did you ask us do we want this thank you Mr.

1:13:20

Science you've reached the three minutes thank you and I'll respectfully ask the audience I'll respectfully ask the audience to refrain from clapping or disrupting the meeting so we can all hear what the speaker is saying and to maintain decorum in the chambers.

1:13:39

The next speaker is Nadia Antoine Nadia Antoine star six please to unmute your telephone Nadia Antoine star six please to unmute your telephone I don't see that phone number in the queue the next speaker is Ricardo Mora Mr Mora will be followed by Manny Rodriguez.

1:14:09

Good morning you have three minutes hi good morning good morning uh pro tam and city council my name is Ricardo Mora President and CEO of the El Paso chamber I'm here today in support of item number 32 the approval of a non-binding memorandum of understanding related to the I 10 downtown deck plaza from the structural and governance standpoint this MOU is prudent and necessary step forward it establishes a coordinated framework between the city of El Paso El Paso County and the downtown deck plaza foundation for the planning design and funding and potential operation of the project it also ensures alignment with text dot downtown reconstruction timeline which is critical the opportunity to incorporate structural future proofing elements must occur during text dot construction window without this step the ability to advance the project in the future becomes significantly more limited importantly this agreement is nonbinding it does not commit the city to fund construct or operate the project it is only a memorandum of understanding any future obligations will require separate agreements

1:15:01

The opportunity to incorporate structural future proofing elements must occur during Text Dot construction window.

1:15:07

Without this step, the ability to advance the project in the future becomes significantly more limited.

1:15:15

Important, this agreement is non-binding.

1:15:18

It does not commit the city to fund.

1:15:21

Construct or operate the project.

1:15:23

It is only a memorandum of understanding.

1:15:26

Any future obligations will require separate agreements and formal approval by this body.

1:15:32

From the perspective of the El Paso Chamber of Commerce, this project directly aligns with our mission.

1:15:38

The chamber unites government, community leaders, and community advocates to champion innovation in our community to have sustainable prosperity all across the El Paso region.

1:15:52

So we believe in this.

1:15:54

This will strengthen our business environment position El Paso for long-term growth.

1:15:59

This is not simply an infrastructure project, it is an economic development project for our community.

1:16:05

Investments in connectivity, public space, and downtown revitalization have a measurable impact on business activity.

1:16:14

They increase foot traffic, support small businesses, attract private investment, and enhance our ability to recruit and retain more talent in our community.

1:16:26

As our region continues to grow and compete for new industries and workforce, quality of place matters.

1:16:31

Projects like this help define how we compete, not just regionally but nationally.

1:16:36

The structure outlined in this memorandum of understanding reflects a disciplined approach to advancing that opportunity.

1:16:43

The project is faced.

1:16:45

A long-term operations are structured and a nonprofit-led model.

1:16:50

In summary, item number 32 does not finalize the project.

1:16:56

It creates a structured conditional pathway to elevate the advance and its responsibility while preserving a time-sensitive opportunity tied to the I-10 reconstruction.

1:17:07

For these reasons and in alignment with our mission to advance economic growth in our region, I respectfully encourage you to support item number 32.

1:17:15

Thank you.

1:17:16

The next speaker is Manny Rodriguez.

1:17:20

Many Rodriguez.

1:17:23

He will be followed by Joshua Ruiz.

1:17:28

Good morning.

1:17:30

Hi, good morning, uh Mayor Pro Temp and Council.

1:17:33

My name is Manny Rodriguez, government affairs manager with the El Paso Chamber.

1:17:37

I am also here in support of item 32 and would like to use my time this morning to highlight several key technical elements of the memorandum of understanding.

1:17:46

First, this is explicitly a um first.

1:17:49

This is explicitly a non-binding agreement.

1:17:52

It is not obligate the city to fund or deliver the project.

1:17:56

All future phases will require separate agreements and formal approval by city council.

1:18:02

Second, the focus of this agreement is on future proofing uh infrastructure.

1:18:06

This includes structural elements uh such as support columns, widened walls, and life safety accommodations that must be incorporated during Text DOT's I-10 reconstruction.

1:18:17

If these elements are not included now, the ability to develop a deck plaza in the future becomes significantly more challenging and costly as well.

1:18:24

Third, the MOU establishes a nonprofit-led operating model.

1:18:28

The Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation is responsible for private fundraising and long-term operations.

1:18:34

The city retains oversight and flexibility, including the ability to adjust the operator model if necessary as well.

1:18:40

Fourth, the agreement includes clear financial safeguards, phased and subject to approval.

1:18:46

Progression beyond early phases is contingent on secured funding from state or federal sources and demonstrated financial capacity.

1:18:54

Finally, timing is critical.

1:18:56

To remain aligned with Text Dot's construction schedule, funding agreements related to future proofing must be executed within the required time frame.

1:19:03

This memorandum of understanding positions the city to meet those deadlines while maintaining full control over future decisions.

1:19:11

In short, item 32 establishes a framework, not a final commitment, one that protects public resources while preserving a significant infrastructure opportunity.

1:19:20

We respectfully encourage encourage you to support this item.

1:19:23

Thank you for your consideration this morning and for your time.

1:19:26

The next speaker is Joshua Ruiz.

1:19:29

Joshua Ruiz, star six, please to unmute your telephone.

1:19:36

Good morning.

1:19:36

You have three minutes.

1:19:39

Hi, good morning.

1:19:42

Can you hear me?

1:19:43

Yes, sir.

1:19:44

Hello, good morning.

1:19:45

Good morning.

1:19:46

Um representing uh representative.

1:19:53

Um pick this moment for uh this is a moment for leadership.

1:20:03

It's about thinking it's about thinking beyond today and asking what we want our city to look like in five or ten years, even 15 years.

1:20:11

The death plaza is more than the park, it's an investment.

1:20:16

Okay, it's an investment in our future with nearly one billion dollars in projected economic economic activity.

1:20:25

If we want to stay competitive and continue attracting investment to El Paso, we need to step up and move projects like this forward.

1:20:36

Is a perfect example of what's possible.

1:20:39

It's be it became uh a catalyst for new development investment and energy in the heart of the city.

1:20:48

Let's attract more investment into our downtown.

1:20:51

Let's fill and renovate those empty buildings.

1:20:55

I respectfully ask you and city council to vote yes on item 32.

1:21:01

Thank you.

1:21:03

The next speaker is Nadia Antowan.

1:21:06

Nadia Antoine star six, please to unmute your telephone.

1:21:10

Good morning.

1:21:11

You have three minutes.

1:21:13

Good morning.

1:21:14

I'm just going in to um what is my opposition to the death plaza?

1:21:19

I understand this is more of a um a discussion point between the entities that are involved.

1:21:25

And while I understand that you might go for it anyway, I just want you to understand the perception of the public of the general public of how frustrating it is when we don't feel heard, and how um how insulting that is to the rest of us.

1:21:38

I understand that you have your supporters, your campaign contributors, but we are the citizens of El Paso City, and we when we speak, we want to be heard as well.

1:21:47

Of course, that sometimes has to be in waiting and when it's time to vote, but it's just very insulting when most of us here that don't have any benefit to this, um, don't want it and still is getting pushed on our throat.

1:22:00

I want you to understand how corrupt it seems to us listening to this project and how it comes off of how ugly it is because it doesn't seem like a sincere, true progressive um uh uh project.

1:22:16

It just seems to be something you're forced to take on because of the campaign contributors that you have that you are adhering to and that you have to pay back.

1:22:25

And so I just want you to understand how um this please we are citizens and how frustrated we feel, and how we are probably not very supportive of you anymore when we keep hearing you support a project that none of us are interested in.

1:22:38

It's something that seems to be just a big money money uh fit, and it doesn't seem to have an end.

1:22:45

And I want to point out to all of those that are in favor and listening and supporting that there's no parking for this structure.

1:22:50

The structure has no parking.

1:22:52

What is it gonna take to have parking for the structure?

1:22:55

It's gonna take even more money and likely eminent domain, which means even more expensive um areas around there that we can have to take on and pay for.

1:23:04

And so that's an additional expense.

1:23:05

It's not even part of the assessment as of right now.

1:23:08

So, how do you have an event space with no parking available?

1:23:11

Already downtown has no parking.

1:23:13

Now you want to have an event space with no parking.

1:23:16

Don't don't sell us lives.

1:23:18

We see it and we're sick of it.

1:23:20

And it feels like it's very correct.

1:23:22

Thank you.

1:23:25

That brings us to call to the public.

1:23:29

The El Paso City Council is a local government body charged with serving the citizens, and the meetings must be focused on the meeting at charge.

1:23:36

The city council meetings are public meetings under the Texas Open Meetings Act.

1:23:40

Public comment on items not on the agenda is an accommodation and not a requirement of city council.

1:23:46

All persons in attendance are expected to display civility and decorum that is respectful to other persons without the use of insulting, profane threatening, or abusive language.

1:23:55

Public comment will not be used for personal attacks against a person or group's character or integrity, nor may any member of the public use this form for political statements or campaigning.

1:24:05

Please note that during call to the public, the city council may not deliberate or decide any subject that is not on the agenda.

1:24:11

However, council may propose that a topic brought forth be posted on a future agenda.

1:24:17

And per the rules of order, 60 minutes will be allotted for call to the public.

1:24:23

This morning we have more than 20 people signed up to speak.

1:24:26

So each person will be getting two and a half minutes to share their comments.

1:24:31

They can monitor their time on this TV screens in chambers.

1:24:36

It'll start at two and a half minutes.

1:24:38

When you have 30 seconds left, it'll turn to yellow.

1:24:41

When you have five seconds left, it'll turn red at this time.

1:24:45

Please give us your closing comment.

1:24:47

The first speaker is Elizabeth Crawford.

1:24:50

Ms.

1:24:50

Crawford's topic is Earth Day, the color greed, and the international abortion agenda.

1:24:55

Ms.

1:24:56

Crawford, star six, please to unmute your telephone.

1:24:58

Good morning.

1:25:00

You have two and a half minutes.

1:25:03

Good afternoon.

1:25:04

Thank you.

1:25:04

Good morning.

1:25:06

I'd like to speak about abortion Earth Day and World Population, April 22nd, who's been designated as Earth Day.

1:25:13

One of the major concerns being targeted by Earth Day.

1:25:16

Activists is the concern of overpopulation.

1:25:19

People concern that our world population will travel past eight, far beyond eight billion people have been sounding the alarm.

1:25:26

In fact, this is the reason why the abortion lobby uses the color green.

1:25:30

To put it bluntly, kill the baby, save the planet.

1:25:33

RBD tried to do an apocalypse of devastation because of overpopulation that we must destroy David from the womb to rectify the situation.

1:25:41

Is this true?

1:25:42

I've actually heard this rationale given over and over again by guys bringing their girlfriend to the abortion center.

1:25:48

Our world is over urbanized for sure.

1:25:50

The cities of our world are overpopulated.

1:25:53

Over urbanization does not equate an overpopulation of our planet.

1:25:58

Actually, a number of nations of late have found that the alarm that their birth rate are so low, their economy will be unsustainable in a decade or two because not enough young men and women are having babies.

1:26:19

Altogether, it means about half of the world population will die by the accounts of scripture.

1:26:25

We're also called in God's word that the attention of the whole world will be focused on one tiny piece, one tiny nation, the nation of Israel.

1:26:34

Recently read online the foul mouth comments of someone who is writing out of picture for the conservative right, but was commenting that it's absolutely incredible how things are coming to pass as predicted in the Bible.

1:26:44

And the history is not randomly unfolding.

1:26:47

It's all coming together for the coming of the one who is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

1:26:52

Instead of rallying for abortion to save the planet, we'll then cries out to us to flee to the cross to save our soul, to flee to the savor and fall upon his mercy, not for the temporal, but for the eternal.

1:27:04

Thank you.

1:27:05

Hope you have a good day.

1:27:06

Thank you.

1:27:07

Thank you.

1:27:07

The next speaker is Claudia Contreras Siller.

1:27:09

Ms.

1:27:09

Siller's topic is clause against cruelty.

1:27:12

She will be followed by Ron Holy.

1:27:14

Good morning.

1:27:14

Hello, good morning.

1:27:16

So this month uh we're fighting animal cruelty.

1:27:19

That's why I'm wearing a orange ribbon.

1:27:21

Animal Service has been fighting animal cruelty this month very hard.

1:27:25

They have been doing a lot of events.

1:27:28

Clause against cruelty is the theme of this month.

1:27:32

I took bar I have this sign I borrowed.

1:27:36

It says 10,300 plus kittens have been entered.

1:27:41

The shelter, please help us save them.

1:27:44

Save the kittens, EP.com.

1:27:47

And this is why I'm here.

1:27:49

The kittens, because we have a lot of dog lovers, a lot of uh dog advocates, but like the people that we love the cats, we need to be more vocal.

1:27:59

And I am very thankful with animal services that they did the media kickoff about the media.

1:28:05

I'm sorry, the animal cruelty um theme.

1:28:09

And also I want to give thanks to the news and everybody that reported those events, and those are the kind of events we need to push for our animals.

1:28:19

A lot of animal cruelty is happening.

1:28:22

So a week ago, I deal with three three litter of kittens, two were dead, one died on me, one I had to put to sleep, and two were sick, three made it.

1:28:33

So we need to really push and be their voice.

1:28:37

Also, it's kidding season.

1:28:39

They did a kid and shower.

1:28:41

They explain about the TNR, and we as independent can do a lot.

1:28:46

I am independent, and I have TNR, a lot of cats, and I really really appreciate what what Animal Services is doing.

1:28:54

They give us a bag.

1:28:56

Uh, please get a light, uh, orange light this month.

1:29:01

And also, since I'm already talking about animal cruelty, I want to say that people are killing our pigeons.

1:29:09

They're selling them to get shot, and it's not the right thing to do.

1:29:13

1200 pigeons every two weeks.

1:29:15

It's a disgrace.

1:29:16

And I want to send a message to the people that are doing business with our pigeons.

1:29:20

As an a la raza vermal.

1:29:23

Get a real job.

1:29:24

Don't be getting our birds to be shot for pig food or for your crazy stuff.

1:29:30

And also, I want to say I love the police department, and I back the blue 100%.

1:29:36

Uh shout out to the animal cruelty unit and be their voice.

1:29:40

And I'm gonna mention it again.

1:29:42

Clause against cruelty.

1:29:44

Thank you, Fit Fum.

1:29:46

Wildcat orphans, shake the poppins.

1:29:48

We're in the building.

1:29:49

Thank you.

1:29:53

Miss Prime.

1:29:54

Oh, Miss Limon.

1:30:00

I'd like to make a motion to dispense with the rules and allow the public the full three minutes that they are allotted at this meeting and every meeting.

1:30:05

There's a motion and a second to suspend the rules of order.

1:30:08

I'll take a roll call on that motion.

1:30:11

Mayor Potem.

1:30:13

Representative Acevedo.

1:30:14

Aye.

1:30:15

Alonado Rocha.

1:30:16

Aye.

1:30:17

Boyatrejo.

1:30:18

Nino.

1:30:19

Piero.

1:30:21

Limon.

1:30:21

Aye.

1:30:23

And that motion passes unanimously, so each speaker will have three minutes to address council.

1:30:28

The next speaker is Ron Como.

1:30:30

Mr.

1:30:31

Como's topic is exercising his constitutional rights to the rescue 1983 animal services.

1:30:36

He will be followed by Selena Serrano.

1:30:40

IT won't need the elmo.

1:30:50

IT's coming.

1:30:55

I have to be asking if I forget why.

1:30:58

Oh.

1:31:06

Mr.

1:31:06

Colbo, if you can give us anything you'd like to share on the elmo in advance, it would help us.

1:31:11

Okay, I'm sorry.

1:31:12

No worries.

1:31:13

Thank you, sir.

1:31:14

Am I fired?

1:31:14

Can I go home?

1:31:15

No, you still have three minutes.

1:31:22

I'm sorry.

1:31:33

I'll move it down so we'll see.

1:31:38

Okay.

1:31:39

Okay.

1:31:41

Morning.

1:31:43

Another Tuesday.

1:31:44

Okay.

1:31:45

This is what I've got in there is the state of Texas.

1:31:48

It's health and safety codes and regulations.

1:31:51

It's very important because we are violating the law.

1:31:55

Something that's very important on this thing is compatible and equal to or more stringent than.

1:32:01

So anything that we put in our Title VII has to be more stringent than or equal to.

1:32:08

The definition of stray because it's been misused for the last three years, according to the health and safety code is stray means roaming and no physical restraint beyond the premises of the animals' owners or keepers.

1:32:20

That means any loose dog or cat running down the street is a stray, not an owned dog, like we've been hearing for the last three years.

1:32:31

Now you go down to number two.

1:32:33

Each stray dog be declared a public nuisance.

1:32:36

Number three, each unrestrained or stray dog to be detained and impounded by the local rabies control authority or the officers of the designate designee, whatever.

1:32:48

That is state law.

1:33:19

How did we not have room for any more strays?

1:33:23

Stop and think about that for a minute.

1:33:26

Twenty-six thousand plus strays were picked up in 2019.

1:33:29

We have an average in four years of 15,500.

1:33:33

Because we were full.

1:34:29

I am not lying.

1:34:32

I did not lie and say our shelter was too full to pick up strays.

1:34:36

The people at the shelter did.

1:34:38

What are you going to do about it?

1:34:40

They lied to the taxpayer.

1:34:42

We pay for that.

1:34:46

The next speaker is Selina Serrano.

1:34:49

Ms.

1:34:49

Serrano's topic is Northeast Community State Neighbor, Chaparral, New Mexico.

1:34:54

She will be followed by Leo Arcos.

1:35:13

Good morning.

1:35:14

My name is Thelina.

1:35:16

I am from Chapra, New Mexico.

1:35:19

I am a sole provider of three kids.

1:35:22

I am currently a junior at New Mexico State University.

1:35:26

I'm studying civil engineering technology.

1:35:29

And I'm also recovering from three um uh multiple back surgeries due to a benign tumor.

1:35:35

And so I'm here today because I am wanting to just share that we are very concerned for the Northeast.

1:35:44

I know you've been hearing this a few times today, um, but I wanted to bring awareness about the potential closure in the Northeast YMCA of El Paso.

1:35:53

Um, due to the lease agreement between the city and the Northeast of uh I'm sorry, the YMCA of El Paso.

1:36:01

The YMCA, I just want to give some background, it serves a diverse community, including all ages, adults, seniors, and even those experiencing homelessness.

1:36:11

Okay.

1:36:11

So the community the Northeast community will lose a vital resource if the YMCA closes, as it offers community services, pre-tax preparation, swimming lessons, music lessons, fitness training, job opportunities, and much more that is needed in the area.

1:36:27

Some of these programs will relocate, and summer is coming up, and not everyone can afford um, you know, going to Camp Cohen or the splash pad and too young.

1:36:37

You know, a lot of people don't really like that with the splash pad.

1:36:41

And so um, I just wanted to bring to your attention because the YMCAs, once you become a member, you're what you're uh you can access any YMCA in the nation, okay?

1:36:52

And so the others are thriving.

1:36:55

We're not sure why the um uh well to particularly the Northeast one is having so many issues.

1:37:02

So we're asking to reconsider um your decision with the lease uh because we have many people here that are in support.

1:37:11

Um we have Regina here.

1:37:12

Regina is legally blind.

1:37:15

She uh has donated over uh $50,000 to uh the YMCA in the Northeast for the 40 years that she has been a member, and uh she has um also um offered to pay to bring other people here since a lot of people are not able to bring themselves.

1:37:36

I started online petition, and so I have over 170 signatures.

1:37:40

I have people that promote um promoted um to have this um petition um shared.

1:37:47

Also, uh Mr.

1:37:48

Science also has my um the one for the one in person.

1:37:52

We're just asking um to help us because there's a lot going on in the Northeast, a lot of kids, families that need more.

1:38:00

When you're in the summer, if you have a pool at home, great for you, but there's uh people in Northeast that are not gonna have access to anything because there's three pools there and they're about to be all closed.

1:38:12

Please help the Northeast.

1:38:13

We need it.

1:38:14

Thank you.

1:38:20

Have a great day.

1:38:23

Thank you.

1:38:32

Hello, uh City Council, thank you for having me here.

1:38:35

Sorry, sorry.

1:38:35

You're Leo Arcos?

1:38:36

Yes, okay.

1:38:37

Correct.

1:38:37

We have three minutes.

1:38:38

My name is Leo Arcos, and I'm here today as an advocate for my community.

1:38:42

So many of you may know who I am.

1:38:44

The purpose of my remarks is to bring attention to a critical issue that will directly harm the residents of District 4.

1:38:51

As you all know, the YMCA announced that it will close its doors in the northeast of El Paso.

1:38:57

Decision came as a shock not only to the community but the entire city.

1:39:01

After hearing the news, I took it upon myself to look beyond the headlines and seek the truth.

1:39:12

To request transparency and answers during that conversation, asked several questions.

1:39:16

But three out uh stood the most.

1:39:19

First, what is the real reason behind closing the facility that has served our community for over 60 years?

1:39:26

Second, who is responsible for maintaining the building and how were the past funds from membership and donations managed to upkeep since it's their responsibility?

1:39:38

Third, what would it take to keep the YMCA open and operating for the years to come?

1:39:43

Here's what I was told directly from the CEO.

1:39:48

There were ongoing negotiations between the YMCA and the city of El Paso.

1:39:54

This has not never been uh said until I discovered the truth.

1:40:00

The initial proposal of the city required the YMCA to pay market rent value.

1:40:05

Unacceptable.

1:40:07

Which was not financially feasible for the organization.

1:40:10

A second proposal reduced the rent, but requiring the building again to be fixed on their own, which is unrealistic and it's a burden.

1:40:21

Regarding the menu, the CEO said that she has only been in the position for several months and could not provide a clear answer to what happened to those funds and why the building was not properly fixed.

1:40:34

Most importantly, she stated approximately $300,000 is needed to bring the building up to safety code.

1:40:40

But once again, the building is grandfathered in, so I don't know where these numbers are coming from.

1:40:45

Okay.

1:40:46

Let me fast forward because the time is running out.

1:40:50

The question here is as city council members.

1:40:54

Are you willing to work with us, the community to keep this facility open?

1:41:02

We need to work as a team.

1:41:04

Don't let this be another loss.

1:41:06

Let it be an example of what can happen when leadership listens to the voters and act.

1:41:13

You guys have some funds that you guys can spend.

1:41:16

District 4, Mistrejo, you have about $80,000.

1:41:20

I believe you can use some of that money for the community.

1:41:23

As you can see, the community is here.

1:41:26

And you saw the children earlier today, they go to that why.

1:41:30

So act and keep it open.

1:41:32

Continue the lease for one dollar.

1:41:34

Stop trying to make money off a nonprofit organization.

1:41:37

Thank you.

1:41:38

The next speaker is Carlos Science.

1:41:44

The next speaker is Carlos Science, followed by Julia Curtin, Wesley Lawrence, Ivan Rosales, Jessica Kell.

1:41:54

Carlos Science.

1:41:59

I'm back again.

1:42:01

Sorry.

1:42:01

I'm not a politician, so respect with all respect.

1:42:05

I'm not trying to insult anybody, okay?

1:42:07

So don't take it personal.

1:42:09

The fact that just my friend knows telling you, it's all true.

1:42:13

Now we go back, YMCA, lease it for a dollar.

1:42:17

You guys were making the city, not you guys personally, okay?

1:42:20

Wasn't really making any money off of it to begin with.

1:42:23

And then which was a dollar, so you guys or somebody can rent it for a dollar again, which will bring the initial cost down and be able to for the CEO or whatever to be able to uh rent it and not close it.

1:42:40

That's what it boils down to.

1:42:42

And if the building needs repairs, like my friend just said, you guys have money.

1:42:47

You can pump some money into this building to bring it back into par so we can use it and we don't have all this stuff going on.

1:42:55

Okay, so I really appreciate it because in retrospect, I'm going back to the duck bridge, the duck plaza.

1:43:03

It's a pipe cream, brothers.

1:43:05

It is a real pipe cream.

1:43:07

You're hoping for this, you're hoping for that.

1:43:09

This is for things not on the agenda.

1:43:12

Okay, well, anyway, the money you guys can spend is for the Northeast.

1:43:19

This applies again, people, all of us, thousands of couples, thousands of elders again from where?

1:43:26

Five points, all the way to Chaparral.

1:43:28

That's a lot of us.

1:43:30

It's a lot of us elderlies, it's a lot of you young folks.

1:43:34

And we really need your support.

1:43:37

Okay, so in part, yeah, they're connected.

1:43:40

The deck plaza and the YMCA money-wise.

1:43:45

Millions, deck plaza, why am let's say a couple of mil, maybe five.

1:43:51

They can rent it for a dollar for another 10 years, another 30 years.

1:43:54

You didn't have the money before.

1:43:57

And now you can keep our community happy and viable, the well-being, the quality of life.

1:44:03

Remember, you guys push quality of life.

1:44:06

Let's step up to it for all of us elderly, that's what we need from you guys.

1:44:14

The other part on the egg plaza, don't vote for it.

1:44:17

It's no good.

1:44:18

It's a pipe dream.

1:44:19

A lot of investors, a lot of people that are the reason I'm saying it because I heard him.

1:44:24

They told me, Carlos, why don't you vote for it?

1:44:27

And I said, No, because I go for the people, I don't go for the business stuff.

1:44:31

Okay.

1:44:32

That in that time it was 425 million.

1:44:35

That was three years ago.

1:44:37

So what's being put out of the news is not real at all.

1:44:42

Just think about all how the materials cost of living has gone up.

1:44:50

You think it's gonna stay at 400?

1:44:51

No, it's gonna go over more than a half a billion dollars.

1:44:55

And then the maintenance on it and the tax that we're gonna have to pay for it, not logical.

1:45:00

Ask the people.

1:45:00

Vote.

1:45:02

Ask the people to vote on this item.

1:45:05

Please.

1:45:05

The next speaker is Julia Curtin.

1:45:07

Ms.

1:45:08

Curtin star six, please to unmute your telephone.

1:45:13

Good morning.

1:45:13

You have three minutes.

1:45:16

Good morning and hello.

1:45:18

Uh Mayor Cortan, City Council members.

1:45:21

My name is Julia Curtin, and I am a concerned resident of district to Northeast El Paso.

1:45:27

I'm a mom.

1:45:28

I am here on this call today to talk about the bowling family YMCA closure.

1:45:34

So tragic.

1:45:36

It is critical.

1:45:37

I voice my strong support for the proposed solution.

1:45:41

The solution allowing a new nonprofit to take over operation of the YMCA facility.

1:45:49

This is a unique opportunity.

1:45:51

It does a few great things.

1:45:53

Number one, it addresses the city's fiscal concern.

1:45:57

Two, listens and honors the needs of the community.

1:46:02

Three, addresses our lack of aquatic facilities in a tangible way.

1:46:08

And four, partner with the city and creatively addresses equity concerns for the Northeast here in the city of El Paso.

1:46:18

This nonprofit has committed to assuming all renovation costs, retaining staff and public access, and relieving the city substantial financial burden.

1:46:28

The city reps talk about partnering.

1:46:31

This is partnering.

1:46:33

The impact on seniors and families.

1:46:36

For our senior population, this facility is literally a lifeline.

1:46:40

I recently visited the facility following up on a community concern.

1:46:44

For 10 a.m.

1:46:45

the parking lot was surprisingly full.

1:46:48

I only got a spot because someone left.

1:46:51

I walked into building family by MCA and the buzz and hub of all friends talking and being healthy was off the chain.

1:46:59

I thought this can never go away.

1:47:01

This is urgent.

1:47:03

My daughter is a competitive swimmer.

1:47:05

We are pro-Beteran Sea Devils.

1:47:07

There is a lot that is in great.

1:47:09

That means it changed our life.

1:47:12

It gave my daughter a healthy competitive outlet and swim friends.

1:47:16

The smile on her face still brings me joy.

1:47:19

I myself joined a triathlon team of swim moms.

1:47:22

Me a mighty mujeres.

1:47:24

No wave.

1:47:25

But I have been training and swimming wherever we could for almost a year.

1:47:31

It changed my health.

1:47:33

It literally and physically changed my heart for the better.

1:47:37

I even joined a coalition.

1:47:39

Advocates for quality urban aquatics Northeast El Paso.

1:47:43

Aqua.

1:47:44

The word is coming.

1:47:45

Including the Northeast community has lost to be, has lost grandmother, have lost the WCA on Sahela.

1:47:53

And with veteran schools still under construction, we cannot move the Boley family YMCA or families, and you deserve healthy heart.

1:48:05

Breaking outcome.

1:48:15

Reach an agreement.

1:48:17

This facility must be a good idea.

1:48:18

Thank you, ma'am.

1:48:19

You've reached the three minutes.

1:48:21

Thank you, Ms.

1:48:22

Curtin's Representative Tlejo.

1:48:43

Thank you, Mayor Pro Temp.

1:48:47

I would I would like to suspend the rules of order to be able to address the public.

1:48:53

And I make a motion to to address to suspend the rules of order.

1:49:02

To address you can't as long as you do not deliberate or decide any subject on the agenda.

1:49:12

You cannot deliberate with the public or decide anything on the topic not on the agenda.

1:49:17

Second.

1:49:18

Thank you.

1:49:19

Hold on.

1:49:23

Representative Fierra.

1:49:25

Thank you.

1:49:26

What is your question, sir?

1:49:31

No.

1:49:31

There is there's no permission to deliberate on the subject matter.

1:49:38

If it's not a posted agenda item.

1:49:41

So the reason the call to the public is call to the public exists to allow members of the public to address the council on items that are not listed on the agenda.

1:49:52

Under the Texas Open Meetings Act, in order for the council to deliberate, you need to have an item posted that allows the council to deliver.

1:50:07

I believe that you're just seemingly wanting to make a statement.

1:50:10

However, this is not a moment for deliberation.

1:50:13

The public has not been given any opportunity to know that this is going to be discussed by the council.

1:50:26

Representative Nino.

1:50:28

Thank you, Mayor Botem.

1:50:29

So as long as Reprejo makes a comment or statement, but the council members don't deliberate or have any feedback, that's where the deliberation aspect takes place.

1:50:41

It's a little bit more nuanced than that because you all are present in the quorum, right?

1:50:44

So the deliberation happens because there's conversation happening from one member of council.

1:50:50

Um, I would I would recommend that you keep your statements very brief and that the council move on to another item.

1:51:00

Would you like me to call for a vote?

1:51:03

Is that there any further discussion?

1:51:04

Okay, call it for a vote.

1:51:06

Thank you, Ms.

1:51:06

Pray.

1:51:08

Mayor Pro Tem Chavez.

1:51:10

Representative Acevedo?

1:51:12

Aye.

1:51:13

Maldonado Rocha.

1:51:14

Aye.

1:51:16

Nino?

1:51:17

Aye.

1:51:18

Fierro.

1:51:18

If um Ms.

1:51:19

Neiman's saying it's appropriate and legal, aye.

1:51:22

Limo?

1:51:23

Aye.

1:51:24

Canales.

1:51:25

Aye.

1:51:25

And the motion passes unanimously.

1:51:27

But she gives yourself open for discussion with the public.

1:51:30

Go ahead.

1:51:31

Thank you.

1:51:31

I'll keep it brief.

1:51:32

I just want to let everyone here who's here to speak on the why.

1:51:36

You know, it's it's so important that you're here, and I appreciate you all being here.

1:51:41

Uh we are engaging in in in and exploring opportunities for the why.

1:51:47

And I just want to say thank you all for being here today.

1:51:50

Thank you.

1:51:52

Okay, the next speaker is Wesley Lawrence.

1:51:54

Mr.

1:51:55

Lawrence Star 6, please to unmute your telephone.

1:51:59

Wesley Lawrence.

1:52:01

Star six, please.

1:52:03

Good morning.

1:52:04

You have three minutes.

1:52:09

Hello, can you hear me?

1:52:11

Yes.

1:52:14

Good morning, members of council and mayor pro tem Chavez.

1:52:17

I just want to thank for allowing the public to speak on such an important item that is impacting members of the Northeast community.

1:52:24

Since the announcement of the closure of the YMCA, my phone has been off the hook.

1:52:29

As anything more, I'm a resident of District 4 and a community advocate specifically for the Northeast of El Paso.

1:52:36

And I know that we have a great deal that is being presented to members of council to save the YMCA.

1:52:43

I want to thank Sarah and Robert Osterland for bringing their family to the forefront and doing everything they can to save the YMCA in Northeast El Paso.

1:52:52

Either being willing to take over the massive amount of debt it would take to fix up the YMCA, but also to make sure that it runs as a nonprofit so that members of the community can continue to get this important resource for um not only for seniors uh but for young people as well.

1:53:10

I want to give just a brief story about how I came to know uh the benefits of the YMCA.

1:53:15

Uh and it was when I was involved in Boy Scouts back in my underdays.

1:53:19

Uh it's where I got my three mirror badge, it's where I teach many young people uh how to swim and how to earn their swimmer badge.

1:53:27

Um that is a resource that without the YMCA we would not be able to have.

1:53:32

Um have reached out to me, just know that the solution is going to be great for our community.

1:53:38

It's going to allow you to continue to have a safe space in the Northeast to exercise, to socialize, uh, and to really just build community.

1:53:46

Uh I'm really excited for other opportunities that possibly can be made.

1:53:50

I mean, I'd love to see the YMCA really turn into a community hub focused on addressing the needs that face our community.

1:53:57

Um things such as uh housing security, food insecurity, and yes, even animal welfare um needs as well, bringing a pet pantry into the YMCA uh or even being able to allow people to um you know foster animals out of the YMCA here in the Northeast.

1:54:15

Those are issues that many of us are worried about.

1:54:19

When we talk about inequality, you know, for some weird reason all the bad things continue to happen here in the Northeast.

1:54:26

Um, and that's why many of us are always concerned with being treated like the red-headed stepchild of the city.

1:54:33

I think that um at the YMCA is successfully saved, that this will really put a good um light on the Northeast really shining to see what the possibilities can be with this.

1:54:44

You know, it really moved me that the family was willing to put everything on the line to fight for our seniors to fight for our young people.

1:54:52

You know, people like to criticize the Northeast as being an unsafe area, and I want to set the record once again that the Northeast is the safest side of El Paso.

1:55:00

Full stop, period.

1:55:02

Um the YMCA will allow youth to find a place where they don't have to worry about gang violence, or they don't have to worry about truancy.

1:55:10

Um, it'll bring them a safe space for them and their families to continue to survive through the reach the three minutes.

1:55:18

Thank you.

1:55:18

The next speaker is Ivan Rosales.

1:55:22

Ivan Gonzalez will be followed by Jessica Kell.

1:55:26

Good morning.

1:55:27

Good morning.

1:55:28

My name is Ivan Rosales, and I am here as a Northeast resident, a veteran, C Devil swim parent, and a leader for Aqua Coalition.

1:55:36

Advocates for quality urban aquatics.

1:55:39

When veterans pool closed last summer, Northeast El Paso was left without a public facility, forcing families, seniors, and teams to travel across the city.

1:55:48

This wasn't just inconvenient.

1:55:49

It highlighted how neglected our community is regarding fair access to aquatic resources, impacting everyone from children learning how to swim, adults seeking exercises, and seniors needing therapeutic recreation.

1:56:04

That's why we formed Aqua Coalition to unite our voices and advocate for a Northeast auditorium.

1:56:09

The Northeast is home to more than a hundred thousand residents and continues to grow with thousands of new homes being built.

1:56:18

Yet we are expected to rely on one aging pool, while other parts of the city have multiple quality aquatic facilities and auditoriums.

1:56:27

That disparity disparity is deeply disappointing.

1:56:31

Our primary goal has been to secure inclusion in the city's 10-year master plan for an editorium in the Northeast.

1:56:38

To achieve this, we have worked with various city departments and continue to collaborate with Representative Trejo.

1:56:44

Despite our efforts, we were informed that the city intends to prioritize maintaining existing facilities while an editorium for the Northeast is viewed as a long-term aspiration, dependent on future funding and demand.

1:56:57

This decision is another devastating blow for our community.

1:57:01

Since Veterans Pool is already considered renovated, leaving the Northeast excluded once again.

1:57:07

And now, will Veterans Pool remains closed, the Northeast YMCA, the last accessible pool in our area is also closing.

1:57:15

So I ask you today, how many closures, how many setbacks, and how many lost opportunities must the Northeast endure before real action is taken?

1:57:29

This is a viable, there is a viable and immediate solution.

1:57:33

A Northeast family is stepping forward with a nonprofit partnership to keep the YMCA facility open, preserving jobs, maintaining essential programs, keeping silver sneakers, funding renovations through private investment, not city dollars.

1:57:54

This is not a risk, it is a lifetime, a lifeline.

1:57:58

We are not asking for special treatment.

1:58:01

We are asking for fairness, for equity, for a chance to protect access to safe swimming, health therapy, opportunity for seniors, children, families, student athletes who have already lost so much.

1:58:19

The decision before you is more than administrative.

1:58:22

It is symbolic.

1:58:24

It will tell the Northeast whether it is seen.

1:58:27

Value Ms.

1:58:28

Rosalind's worth fighting.

1:58:31

Thank you.

1:58:32

The next speaker is Jessica Kell.

1:58:36

Ms.

1:58:36

Cal Star 6, please to unmute your telephone.

1:58:42

Jessica Kell.

1:58:44

Go ahead, ma'am.

1:58:45

You have three minutes.

1:58:52

Go ahead, Miss Kell.

1:58:57

We're unable to hear you, Miss Kelly your microphone is ready.

1:59:05

You're back on mute, ma'am.

1:59:06

Star 6, please to unmute your telephone.

1:59:13

Star 6, please.

1:59:18

I'll come back to Ms.

1:59:19

Kell, I think.

1:59:20

Go ahead, Miss Kell, your microphone is ready.

1:59:23

Okay.

1:59:24

Hello.

1:59:25

Good morning.

1:59:26

My name is Jessica Kell, and I am calling in on behalf of the support for nonprofit.

1:59:35

And to address mayor and city council members, my name is Jessica Kell, as I said, and I am a resident of District 4.

1:59:43

I'm here today to voice my strong support for the proposal, allowing a new nonprofit to take over the operations of the YMCA facility.

2:00:00

We're purposing uh or the proposal presented a new uh unique opportunity that addresses the city's fiscal concerns for honoring the needs of our community, especially our city senior citizens.

2:00:06

The prophesy has committed to assuming our renovation costs, retaining current staff, containing public access, and the impact on our seniors and families for a senior population.

2:00:19

This facility is more than just the gym.

2:00:30

As mentioned before, quality of life is uh greatly advocate, and this would be a task to make that known in the Northeast.

2:00:38

Um community emergency, the Northeast community has already faced significant loss of aquatic and recreational spaces, several schools around the Northeast, to include Tilburn Granville and the YMCA in Sahara and Veteran School.

2:00:54

And um, which is now still under construction or renovation.

2:00:58

Um we simply cannot afford to have another facility taken away from our community.

2:01:03

This proposal has overwhelming community support.

2:01:06

Um we have them coming together as a community to collect these signatures.

2:01:11

I urge you to please uh reach an agreement that reflects the the clearness of our constituents and ensures this facility remains um a con corner store corn corner store of our um Nathy.

2:01:26

Thank you for your time and service to our city, and I uh greatly urge you to um come up with a solution, come up with the plan.

2:01:35

Our community needs this.

2:01:37

Um we can afford not afford to lose another another aquatic facility in the community center for our seniors and family.

2:01:45

Thank you.

2:01:46

The next speaker is John Camacho, followed by Lola Rosales, Miguel Melendez, Rick Alvarado, Mike Becker, Esperanza Avila, John Camacho.

2:02:01

I don't see John Camacho, Lola Rosales.

2:02:03

Yes.

2:02:06

Good morning, everybody.

2:02:08

Uh we are here for the same.

2:02:10

The problem from the YMCA.

2:02:12

Uh, like uh I'm the voice of all my this group of people, senior citizens, members of the YMCA, and we are asking for your support, we are asking for your help.

2:02:27

We need that.

2:02:28

For most of us, to go to the gym is our lifeline.

2:02:33

We're going there to to exercise, to help therapies, to have emotional support.

2:02:39

That means a lot for us, for all of us.

2:02:42

So we need it.

2:02:44

And it's not fair to go and exercise in another community.

2:02:49

If we have one here at Northeast, so we are asking if you can help us to keep the YMCA okay.

2:02:58

So make something else, another recreation center for us, because we need it.

2:03:04

We need that.

2:03:06

But in the Northeast, please, we can we can be able to drive to very forth far distance.

2:03:14

It's too far for us.

2:03:15

Most of the of us, we are seniors.

2:03:18

We we're not driving long distances.

2:03:20

Our cars, there's not so good.

2:03:23

And you know, the cost of living is too high.

2:03:28

The gas is too high.

2:03:30

So we need something in our community of Northeast.

2:03:34

Please help us, like a voting member.

2:03:38

I'm asking you for out for your help.

2:03:41

Thank you.

2:03:44

John Camacho.

2:03:48

John Camacho.

2:03:53

Morning, you have three minutes.

2:03:54

Morning, uh, Mayor Pro Town, City Council.

2:03:58

Uh I'm here on a different reason.

2:04:01

Uh I like to advocate more or less for the high school students who need to train to be swimming.

2:04:08

My son is a coach at one of the six high schools that's in Northeast and Central, who relied on utilizing the facilities at the Y in order to train.

2:04:18

If you live on the east side of the town, the west side, beautiful aquatic centers.

2:04:23

But it's been a burden on the high school students to keep any kind of a swim team going.

2:04:29

You don't have the participation that much in Northeast for swimming.

2:04:33

It could be a lot better, but I've already heard this a number of times, where people are telling me that it's too much of a hassle to go to the west side, the east side to go somewhere to learn to swim.

2:04:44

The Y has been that little point where they've learned been able to do their training and to have some kind of a swim team going.

2:04:52

I'm also a member of that why.

2:04:54

I utilize the facilities all the time.

2:05:00

I've been through therapy with my shoulders with problems, and the exercise equipment there is exactly what I had in therapy.

2:05:04

So I'm able to continue on to keep my health going.

2:05:08

Thank you.

2:05:09

Next speaker is Ray Calvarado.

2:05:13

Rick Alvarado.

2:05:15

Followed by Mike Becker.

2:05:17

Uh good morning.

2:05:18

Uh just came again to talk about the Y and uh really thank all the people that came, they've articulated very well about why the Northeast YMCA needs to stay open.

2:05:28

So I'm just gonna say a couple of things uh about the Y you guys know it's been out there for sixty years or more, and uh and uh I myself was been a member for about 28 plus years.

2:05:39

My kids have gone there, now my grandkids are going there.

2:05:42

But uh the most important thing is I mean, look at the the people you're trying to affect.

2:05:47

So you really need to take it to consideration that uh if you were to go to the Y right every morning between Monday and Friday in the morning, you would see all these young ladies working out, and then afterwards they stay for so for their social life, they mingle and they stay and they have fun.

2:06:08

So you're trying to take that away from them.

2:06:10

Second of all, if you go on a Saturday, you see the buzz of all so many kids and parents as they're participating participating in sports.

2:06:20

You have a gentleman by the name of Jerry that does the taxes for free for people that starts in January and ends in April, and there you should see the amount of people that go through there.

2:06:32

So what you all are trying to do is not right, it's almost criminal to be honest with you.

2:06:38

I call it criminal, and I know it's something that there's funds for everything.

2:06:44

The why it would not take that much money to renovate.

2:06:48

I know that you know there's contractors that would be willing to negotiate and help you guys almost free to help stay keep the northeast open.

2:06:57

So I urge you guys to look in your hearts, and remember all the Y members that go through through the Y doors, all of them have a story, and their stories matter.

2:07:10

So please keep the Y open as it should be.

2:07:15

Thank you.

2:07:16

The next speaker is Mike Baker.

2:07:20

Good morning, sir.

2:07:21

You have three minutes.

2:07:23

Good morning, council.

2:07:24

I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you.

2:07:28

Um there's not a whole lot I can say right now that hasn't already been said.

2:07:33

I just would like the support of the council and especially the Northeast representative that we voted for to go to bat for us.

2:07:42

I've been a member, I've been in El Paso for 60 years, and I remember when I was ten years old playing baseball where the parking lot is at the YMCA right now.

2:07:55

Okay.

2:07:55

You see all these people here and here, but what you don't see is the children and the rest of their families that go to that facility and what the YMCA does for those children, developing them.

2:08:12

After school programs, summer programs, what have you.

2:08:16

Okay.

2:08:17

I was asked to speak about the high school swimmers.

2:08:21

It was already it was already brought up.

2:08:24

So I do urge, you know, that we keep the YMCA open.

2:08:29

I was not aware of why they were closing it.

2:08:32

I asked the question 20 times, but then it was brought to me brought to my attention today that the dollar a year has gone away.

2:08:42

And they want to they want to charge rent for market value.

2:08:45

That's completely ridiculous.

2:08:48

Okay.

2:08:49

And if that's true, it's disappointing that that came as a decision.

2:08:56

But please, I want like like Richard said, I know a lot of these people.

2:09:01

I've been talking on their behalf for years because I've been going there since my kids were born, and they're in their 30s now.

2:09:09

Okay.

2:09:10

But please look into your heart and reconsider and help keep the YMCA open.

2:09:15

Thank you very much.

2:09:22

The next speaker is Esperanza Avila, Mes Avila will address the council in Spanish.

2:09:27

You can follow along using the QR code on the monitors.

2:09:32

That would give you access to the live interpretation.

2:09:36

Buenos días.

2:09:37

Buenos días, concilio.

2:09:39

My name is Esperanza Ávila.

2:09:41

Estoy aquí apoyando mis compañeros del YMCA porque el YMCA me necesitamos que stay abierto porque es para todas las edades.

2:09:51

Tenemos desde un año, edad de un año hasta 90 años.

2:10:11

Usted sí vaya al YNCA y no ve caras tristes.

2:10:15

Usted ve pura sonrisas.

2:10:30

Y ahí este no hay que nadie se fija de nada.

2:10:43

Y ahí andamos haciendo nuestros ejercicios.

2:10:47

I clases de natación.

2:10:50

Hay guardería.

2:10:57

Zumba también.

2:11:00

Yoga.

2:11:16

No necesitamos.

2:11:18

Ay en el guay.

2:11:21

Agua, ejercicio.

2:11:23

Tenemos ejercicio.

2:11:26

Then we're socialization.

2:11:34

Services communitarios de la y también queremos que nos dejan el guay porque es para la communidad de allí de UAI.

2:11:44

Porque todos las personas de allí vamos allá a hacer nuestros ejercicios y a la alberca.

2:11:50

Yo no había conocido a la persona que nos puede apoyar.

2:11:54

Hasta aquí la conocí, que es la señora Trujillo.

2:11:59

Tejo, no se nos había presentado.

2:12:02

Entonces, eso es lo que a mí me preocupa.

2:12:12

Gracias.

2:12:13

The next speaker is Miguel Valéndez.

2:12:18

Miguel Meléndez.

2:12:23

Is Miguel Meléndez here?

2:12:28

I don't see him coming forward.

2:12:30

We'll move on to Bruno Vázquez.

2:12:34

Bruno Vázquez.

2:12:41

Mr.

2:12:42

Vázquez topic is architecture week in El Paso.

2:12:53

Good morning, uh Mayor Pro Temporary Council members and fellow El Pasoans.

2:12:57

My name is Bruno Vázquez.

2:12:59

I am a local architect working in private practice in El Paso.

2:13:04

Earlier this year, I was appointed to serve in the American Institute of Architects Public Awareness Committee.

2:13:10

And this is a national level role focused on strengthening public understanding of architecture and the vital role that architects play in shaping communities.

2:13:20

However, I don't think that I can talk about much about architecture today other than what you've seen so far.

2:13:27

The power of buildings and what they represent.

2:13:42

This is a national level initiative, and this year old password is showing up in a big way.

2:13:47

A few days ago, my colleagues and I were honored to meet with Major Johnson, who issued a proclamation celebrating a series of events that began yesterday.

2:14:03

Authors of children's literature on architecture, urbanism and design, are reading their own books via remote meeting during the week.

2:14:12

Yesterday I was present at Jose Damiana Elementary in Canutillo ISD, and it was really heartwarming to see a group of first graders connected with other kids from all over the country.

2:14:25

Uh while they were listening to Nina Laden reading her book, Roberto, the insect architect.

2:14:31

Really fun.

2:14:32

On Saturday, we are heading to La Nube, designed by the internationally acclaimed firms nowhere in collaboration with local firm uh Exigo for a conceptual design workshop from 9 to 1.

2:14:46

Children will engage their imagination and discover firsthand the fundamentals of how buildings take shape.

2:14:53

Emphasis on fun.

2:14:55

And then on April 19, we are closing architecture week with our annual 5K run and fun walk.

2:15:03

Participants will run or walk alongside some of El Paso's most iconic buildings, including El Paso High School, the Lady on the Hill, designed by Henry Trost.

2:15:14

Each year we celebrate a feature building in all our raised materials.

2:15:18

Last year was La Nube, this year is the Mac.

2:15:21

Our medals, our t shirts, our logos, everything is related to these buildings.

2:15:28

Architecture is everywhere around us.

2:15:30

In the buildings where we gather, the schools where our children learn, the streets where we run.

2:15:37

These events are our way of inviting El Pasuans, especially our kids, to look up to see architecture and to feel proud of it because the buildings of a city are uh they are their biography, and El Paso has a very strong story to tell.

2:15:53

Thank you.

2:15:55

The next speaker is Marcy Chavez.

2:15:57

Miss Chavez's topic is Montana Vista Water Phase 2 project.

2:16:05

Marcy Chavez.

2:16:10

Eddie Chavez.

2:16:13

Mr.

2:16:13

Chavez's topic is El Paso Water and Sewer for Montana Vista.

2:16:26

Good morning.

2:16:27

So you have three minutes.

2:16:28

Good morning.

2:16:29

I didn't know these people from Northeast were gonna come.

2:16:32

I was born and raised there in the YMCA.

2:16:34

My kids were born and raised there.

2:16:36

It was just a little pothole when I remember when we were kids.

2:16:40

It was a place to get away from school.

2:16:43

But I hope good luck to them.

2:16:45

But now I'm on another project.

2:16:46

I'm with and God put me out there in Montana Vista where I'm trying to uh I finally we had a nice meeting with the city uh water department the night uh last Thursday.

2:17:01

We had a good turnout.

2:17:03

Unfortunately, the people that went didn't really understand what they were afraid to answer questions.

2:17:09

I hope we have another one, but at least now we know we got attention that people out there need the service.

2:17:17

And I'm trying to get find out why if they got 23 28 million dollars back in 2023.

2:17:26

This was when Tony Gonzalo was in Congress, and they've been three years and they've done very little to help these people.

2:17:34

At least put some water uh those overhead tanks out there or something to help these people.

2:17:39

Some of them don't even have any water.

2:17:42

They need somebody to talk to them.

2:17:44

Well, I hate to be there.

2:17:47

I got a lot of things, I got a lot of hats and places where I have to be, but uh I I try to do the best I can.

2:17:55

But hopefully, here Northeast that I heard about uh I was with the Nur Neighborhood Association for 12 years.

2:18:03

I mean, I'm sorry, four years in 2010, uh with um Gilda Wilson.

2:18:09

We did the two skate parks out there in Northeast.

2:18:11

I don't know if because the same thing, the kids didn't have nowhere to go.

2:18:15

We finally got the money together, and it's just uh things are so we lost our ball in Ali.

2:18:21

Kids didn't have to know where to uh go and communicate together, and now that these people are trying to get the YMCA back together again.

2:18:32

We have to continue the uh the um I guess the juveniles from getting away and not finding anywhere to where uh where to go.

2:18:43

But we got a good city representative, and I know she's trying, she got a whole handful.

2:18:48

I know, but she's doing good.

2:18:50

Cynthia, thank you.

2:18:51

You're doing good.

2:18:52

Better than when we had Sleepy Joe, anyways.

2:18:56

Uh Joe's a good friend of mine, he'll take it all right.

2:18:59

But anyways, thank you so much for all you do, okay, and whatever I can do.

2:19:03

Thank you.

2:19:04

God bless you.

2:19:05

The next speaker also regarding Montana Vista Water Phase 2 project is Marcy Chavez.

2:19:14

She will be followed by Aaron Morga.

2:19:17

Good morning.

2:19:18

Morning.

2:19:20

Good morning, and God bless everybody.

2:19:23

Um I'm here to speak about this, you know, the Montana Vista phase two.

2:19:30

And even though that I don't reside over there, but I'm pretty common with everything that goes on in this within the city.

2:19:39

Uh I went to their meeting uh on past week last week, and they were asking people to fill out this documents to see they qualified for free, not non-paying eight thousand seven hundred dollars according to what they're gonna be charged for the pipelines.

2:20:01

And I asked the individuals from the water department, how do they expect this areas, these people that we can't even afford any more buying groceries, paying utilities, because they keep going up every year, twice a year, sometimes.

2:20:20

And I'm a witness to that because I have my bills, and I live by myself, and I'm never home, and I pay 300 in the water, 400, 600 in the electric.

2:20:32

Uh now I even had to pay $300 in gas.

2:20:37

So you tell me how is it that you're not exploiting the people of El Paso?

2:20:42

And I say exploiting because every scam that is out there is not who you are, it's who you know.

2:20:50

And we all know there's a lot of people now that are awake and there's they're they're watching you all misspending money in this beautiful highway item with decorations.

2:21:04

We are dying of hunger here.

2:21:06

And why isn't it that you're not taking uh care of the community?

2:21:10

And that is my point.

2:21:12

I suggest that you read Proverbs 15 to 31, and maybe you can understand.

2:21:17

I was gonna read it, but I don't have the time.

2:21:20

So, anyways, I will continue.

2:21:23

I hope that this project doesn't have anything to do with the AI databases, because we all know about them, or not everybody, but there's a lot of uh ignorance in regards to that, and they're using our water.

2:21:38

It is within the county to provide water, it's the within the county to provide for the pipes, because we already paid taxes over taxes over taxes.

2:21:50

So, why these people being charged eight thousand seven hundred dollars?

2:21:54

They don't understand that nothing's for free.

2:21:57

Eventually, there's consequences for the work free.

2:22:01

Who has to pay them?

2:22:03

We do, the hard working people.

2:22:05

And I've been working all my life, and to this as old as I am, I'm still working.

2:22:10

And so were the smart meters.

2:22:12

Who gave you authority to change all the water meters, you know, to smart meters, just like the electric?

2:22:19

Same thing.

2:22:20

This is not right.

2:22:22

You all are just doing your whatever you want.

2:22:24

You don't ask the community if it's okay, you don't ask, you don't even tell them the consequences that it will bring eventually.

2:22:32

Thank you.

2:22:33

The next speaker is Aaron Morga, followed by Albert Rivera, Janet Fierro, Julie Alvarado, Mary Woodruff, Elisa Yamas.

2:22:45

Mr.

2:22:45

Morgan's topic is city approved projects that contribute to air pollution and lower standards of living.

2:22:50

Good morning, city council.

2:22:52

I almost didn't make it to today's meeting because like hundreds of thousands of my fellow pastors, we have to work, and oftentimes we can't come to these things to speak on issues.

2:23:02

But uh that doesn't mean that we don't care about these things, you know.

2:23:06

Um we elected you all to protect our interests and to defend the public good, and I honestly don't believe that that's the case with what I'm about to speak on.

2:23:16

Um I just thought it would be important to take some time off work today to to uh to come ask you a simple question, really, and I'll preface that by by pointing out the fact that we live in the border next to Juarez, who uh has hundreds of factories, dozens of cement plants, asphalt plants, so they have quarries, uh they don't regulate the emissions on their cars, and on top of that they're burning trash and rubber every couple times a month, coating the the horizon on in black haze, really.

2:23:51

So we're already living in a very polluted environment regardless of what we do here.

2:23:56

On top of that, we have cement quarter, we have cement plants, we have asphalt plants, we have quarries, we have our warehouses with semis, uh we have the gas refinery, and then on top of that, the dust, the heat.

2:24:10

So basically my question is when you walk out on any given day and take a deep breath into your lungs, does it feel good?

2:24:17

I mean I work outside every day, and I'm blessed that I don't have asthma, I don't have respiratory issues, thank God.

2:24:24

Uh I have friends that do, and they suffer with that, but when I come home from work, my lungs hurt.

2:24:30

Uh I blow my nose, it's brown, it's gray, and that's just on any given day here.

2:24:34

And um it's just strange to me that we're talking about closing YMCAs and and removing funding from that, yet we're trying to bring in corporations who are gonna build a gas plant that's gonna pollute more than all the cars in the tri-state area combined.

2:24:56

Uh I don't see how that makes sense.

2:25:00

And it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me.

2:25:03

I don't understand if you guys maybe, I don't know if the mayor, I know he's not here.

2:25:07

Do you guys have a dome over your homes that I don't know is the air, like do we not breathe the same air?

2:25:13

How are we bringing in corporations that are gonna invest billions of dollars to take our water to take our to pollute our air and to increase our energy bills and the fact that I know that Mayor Johnson takes millions of dollars from uh hundreds of thousands of dollars from millionaires and billionaires?

2:25:30

So I understand that, but all of you um I really don't understand.

2:25:35

I mean, do you not have children and grandchildren?

2:25:37

We breathe the same air.

2:25:38

Drive down um the highway and look at the horizon.

2:25:44

I mean that's that's all I have to say.

2:25:47

Thank you.

2:25:48

The next speaker is Albert Rivera.

2:25:52

Albert Rivera.

2:25:57

Rene Fierro.

2:26:02

Mr.

2:26:03

Fierro's topic is economic development.

2:26:05

He will be followed by Mary Woodrow.

2:26:12

May I begin?

2:26:13

Yes, you have three minutes.

2:26:15

Uh good morning, council.

2:26:16

Um, so I've not been paid, offered anything or promised anything in exchange uh for my comments today.

2:26:25

Um they're in regard to economic development, um, partially to some of the major projects that are being discussed, including the debt park and the data centers, and I'll try to tie it into other things um happening or not happening in the city.

2:26:43

Um to begin, I'd you know, I I have a son, and so I often tell him that you know having ideas is a good thing, but not all ideas are good ideas, and and even sometimes when you have a good idea, there are reasons not to do it.

2:27:00

And so obviously, with these projects, there's also supposed to be pros and cons.

2:27:06

And too often we don't get when the city it seems like uh wants to do something, we hear about all the pros.

2:27:14

Anything good, we hear about it over and over and over again, but we don't get the cons.

2:27:19

We don't learn what are the potential consequences, what are the likely consequences?

2:27:25

What can we expect at the end, and not just um what what are the good things do we get right now?

2:27:34

Um so Mr.

2:27:35

Gutenrath, Joe Gutenrath was up here to talk about the debt park, and he started um his uh comments by talking about uh issue about parking downtown and how he think it would be a good idea to use all the revenue generated from the parking meters and to keep it for downtown so it doesn't go to the general fund.

2:27:57

And that's like, well, of course you do.

2:27:59

And isn't that how where these projects always end up where we end up?

2:28:04

Well, we've got to do something for downtown, we've got to do something for downtown.

2:28:10

And it's like, you know, what about the rest of the community?

2:28:12

What about the other parts of the city?

2:28:14

Everybody pays what's supposed to be a flair fair flat tax rate or whatever, until you know you want to build a nice building where the city could actually get a lot of significant tax revenue, then they cut the tax rates in half and and they give them rebates.

2:28:32

And so these people are not even paying their fair share of taxes, they're getting tax breaks, and that's and that's that would lift the burden off of homeowners if you fully tax some of these buildings that you that that you give tax breaks for economic development reasons, but the city doesn't see the benefit at the end.

2:28:51

The business does, and they do great, and the city and the residents don't get the benefits.

2:28:56

And so um, with regard to the tech the debt park, I do um think the city should invest in green spaces and stuff.

2:29:05

There's there's needs for green spaces all over the city, and the 400 million dollar price tag or whatever for the debt part could build lots of parks all over the city and plans.

2:29:16

Thank you, Mr.

2:29:16

Fiero.

2:29:17

You've reached three minutes.

2:29:18

The next speaker is Julie Alvarado.

2:29:22

Julie Alvarado.

2:29:24

Her topic is break the 380 tax agreement.

2:29:27

She will be followed by Mary Woodrow.

2:29:34

Good morning, Mayor Pro Tem and Mayors of City County and members of City Council.

2:29:39

My name is Julia Alvarado, and I am a member of the Northeast District 2.

2:29:44

I am here today to speak in opposition of the Meta Data Center, specifically to implore the mayor and council to vote to break the chapter 380 tax agreement.

2:30:00

The changes that were announced to the magnitude and scope of this project should automatically render this agreement null and void.

2:30:07

This terrible agreement is an insult to every citizen of El Paso, and it is the result of our elected officials choosing the recommendations of those who stood to profit the most, overdoing their due diligence to fully understand the impact of the data center on our community and our environment.

2:30:35

Though only a few of you were on council at that time, you are all here now, in this moment and in this position.

2:30:45

Your actions at this time, right now, must honor the generations that came before and safeguard the generations to come.

2:30:55

As city councils, as city council, your duty is to act in the best interest of the citizens of El Paso, not Meta, and not the borderplex alliance.

2:31:10

How you choose to act will have far reaching consequences.

2:31:16

So we, the people of El Paso, are calling on you, our elected officials, to break the 380 tax agreement with Meta to protect our natural resources and fight for the future of El Paso.

2:31:29

Thank you.

2:31:30

The next speaker is Mary Woodrow.

2:31:34

She will be followed by Elisa Yamas.

2:31:37

Ms.

2:31:37

Woodruff's topic is El Paso Electric Meadow Power Plant.

2:31:41

That's a hard uh act to follow.

2:31:45

Good morning.

2:31:45

My name is Mary Woodruff.

2:31:48

I am with Sembrando Esperanzas, but I am also here as a taxpayer and a constituent.

2:31:56

By the way, thank you for allowing me to speak and also for your support to this community and your service.

2:32:05

I urge you not to approve El Paso Electric application.

2:32:13

This application is to build a natural gas power plant.

2:32:18

This is not a neutral decision.

2:32:21

Power plants like this are tied to higher rates of respiratory illness, cardiovascular disease, and premature death.

2:32:30

And it's all let's be clear.

2:32:34

This facility is being not being built for the people.

2:32:37

It's being built to serve the Meta Data Center.

2:32:40

Other communities, including the state of Maine, are drawing heart lines and pausing and rejecting these projects because they understand the long-term cost to public health and to natural resources and the infrastructure.

2:32:58

El Paso should not be less protective of its residents.

2:33:05

You cannot promote quality of life while approving projects that degrade it.

2:33:11

That's right.

2:33:17

Do not be swayed by million-dollar proposals or once-in-a-lifetime opportunities that build on uncertain economic promises.

2:33:29

Once they're approved, the impact are real, they're immediate, but most of all they're irreversible.

2:33:39

El Paso does not need a deck plaza.

2:33:42

It could uh achieve its goals for quality of life and green um walking paths, whatever.

2:33:49

It could be achieved without destroying or or inconveniencing the traffic and uh displacing people uh by expanding the I 10.

2:34:01

Um this is not in opposition uh to growth or anti-growth.

2:34:05

This is in response to leadership, leadership that protects health, values community decision making, um, prior uh prioritizes sustainability and honors uh campaign commitments that were made to this community.

2:34:24

If the council truly stands for quality of life, then prove it.

2:34:30

Choose people over projects, right?

2:34:33

Health over promises, and the future of El Paso over short-term deals or whatever.

2:34:43

Um again, I thank you for your support, and I've seen the the changes that my um city council person is making uh to improve our our community.

2:35:00

And once again, I thank you for your service and and commitment to this community.

2:35:03

Oh no, to these pro three projects.

2:35:07

Um they're not in our benefit.

2:35:09

They're not going to be able to do that.

2:35:10

Thank you, Mark.

2:35:11

Thank you.

2:35:12

The next speaker is Elisa Yamas.

2:35:14

Ms.

2:35:15

Yamas' topic is also the meta data center.

2:35:17

She will be followed by Vanessa Almana.

2:35:21

Hello, good well, good morning or good afternoon.

2:35:24

I don't know what time it is.

2:35:25

Um my name is Elisa Yamas.

2:35:26

I have been a resident of the city for 10 years.

2:35:28

Thank you for letting me come and talk to you.

2:35:30

I'm extremely concerned about the amount of water that will be used by the Northeast Data Center.

2:35:35

The city of El Paso currently uses between 110 to 160 million gallons of water per day.

2:35:40

And the data center is expected to use 1.5 million gallons of water per day.

2:35:45

If these figures are correct, that means that the data center will be consuming approximately one percent of our total daily water usage.

2:35:53

That calculation was derived by dividing 1.5 million by 150 million, 150 million, which is equal to 0.01, which is equal to 1%.

2:36:04

In July of 2016, the El Paso Public Service Board made a very wise decision by developing a plan to import water via pipeline from Dell City by the years 2040 to 2050 in order to ensure El Paso has enough water for the future.

2:36:20

El Paso is projected to spend up to 890 million dollars to buy 70,000 acres if they have haven't done it already of land in Dell City, which is 130 miles away from here.

2:36:31

If we are planning to import water from another city to save our own city from a future drought, then why are we inviting a business to El Paso that will use so much water for only 50 jobs?

2:36:44

This makes no sense.

2:37:18

Corpus has less than half the amount of people of El Paso.

2:37:21

If you only count the city limits of both cities.

2:37:24

Corpus Christi has two times more the amount of rainfall than El Paso does.

2:37:30

Yet Corpus is in danger of not meeting their water obligations by July of 2027.

2:37:36

Corpus Christi is showing us that if we are not careful with our most valuable resource, we can go down to dangerous levels, dangerous water levels.

2:37:45

Also, please pay attention and study other cities that have had negative consequences with data centers before we proceed further.

2:37:52

Thank you.

2:38:02

If we are planning to import water from Dell City 14 years from now.

2:38:06

Thank you so much.

2:38:07

I appreciate you.

2:38:08

The next speaker is Vanessa Almada.

2:38:13

Vanessa Almada.

2:38:18

I don't see her coming forward.

2:38:21

The next group of speakers signed up with Amanecer People's Project.

2:38:26

And per the rules of order, they have they will select a representative to speak on their behalf, and Mr.

2:38:34

Miguel Escoto will be speaking on the behalf of Amana Ced People's Project, and he will have six minutes to speak per the rules of order.

2:38:44

Hello, City Council.

2:38:49

I've been community organizing for seven years straight, and I can say that the data center crisis is the single most controversial issue, the most widely felt, deeply felt issue that we have seen.

2:39:03

And it's very unified.

2:39:05

We do not want these data centers.

2:39:07

We don't want the meta data center specifically.

2:39:10

Behind me is our members of Amana Ced, organizers with Amana Ced.

2:39:14

I would like to pass the mic to them, if that's okay with you all.

2:39:18

Uh they're gonna speak a little bit.

2:39:20

But here I want you to remember that we at Amana said, we are organized, we are relentless, and we're not gonna take excuses.

2:39:29

The meta data center has to stop.

2:39:32

You have to break the deal.

2:39:34

So I'll pass it over to some of my colleagues, and we'll try to be in time.

2:39:39

Thanks.

2:39:40

Hi, everyone.

2:39:41

You've seen me before.

2:39:42

My name is Harry White.

2:39:44

I'm a Northeast representative under Mr.

2:39:45

Acevedo.

2:39:47

But as you heard from many of the folks here, the Northeast goes from Mr.

2:39:53

area farther north.

2:39:55

We're all one community.

2:40:00

And all the folks that spoke about keeping the Y open, the meta data center would cause more damage to our community than closing the Y.

2:40:06

I stand with them, but I stand with all uh folks who live in the Northeast.

2:40:11

We need to break the 380 deal.

2:40:13

Thank you.

2:40:17

Hello, City Council.

2:40:19

My name is Alejandro Reese from District One.

2:40:21

I care deeply about my city's future and our children's future.

2:40:25

My mother, retired elementary school teacher, taught me the importance of our youth and the life we create for them in the future.

2:40:31

I'm concerned about the environmental financial cost incurred by the people from their monthly bills, and ultimate ultimately my local government's inability to represent the people's interest.

2:40:42

Break the deal with Meta.

2:40:49

Good morning.

2:40:49

My name is Jay, and I live out in Clinton on the far east side.

2:40:53

I'm a community organizer focusing on helping Opasuans and communities all across the state protect themselves from imminent domain and different forms of industrial expansion.

2:41:02

Over the past few months, I've talked to hundreds of opasuans, and it has been beautiful to see so many different people from all walks of life coming together to oppose the Meta project.

2:41:11

My parents live here.

2:41:12

I'm raising my daughter here, and we want to stay here.

2:41:15

Opasum means everything to us, and we have to protect our resources at all costs.

2:41:18

A future framework does nothing to oppose Meta.

2:41:21

Break the deal.

2:41:27

Good morning.

2:41:28

My name is Ariana Gonzalez Iker.

2:41:30

I'm a born and raised El Pasoan from District 3.

2:41:32

I'm here to express opposition to data centers in our city right now and for the future.

2:41:38

Break the contract with Meta and stop telling us it cannot be done while they continue to amend the terms of that contract to accommodate their needs.

2:41:46

Such as building a power plant, lying about returning water to the city and using evaporative cooling rather than solar power.

2:41:54

Urge the public service board to do the right thing for our community.

2:41:58

Do not stand with these people who called us a virus just because we're protecting our home.

2:42:04

It's not enough to tell us that you are against the data centers.

2:42:08

We need each of you to do more.

2:42:09

It is your responsibility.

2:42:11

At this moment, you can choose to stand with the people who elected you and who you vowed to serve, or you could become just another thing that we have to overcome.

2:42:21

Thank you.

2:42:25

Um and just to see if they're still on the call, is America Tirado still on, if if she can unmute.

2:42:33

Ms Mr.

2:42:34

Scotto, you were supposed to be the spokesperson for everyone since you're in a group of ten or more.

2:42:40

Yeah, just to summarize.

2:42:42

Okay.

2:42:43

Yeah, go for it.

2:42:45

I'm still here.

2:42:46

Okay, hello everyone.

2:42:47

Um, my name is America Pirado.

2:42:48

I am a resident of District 8.

2:42:50

I know for all of you guys representatives, it's probably not easy to sit there for hours listening to all of us talk.

2:42:56

So thank you for being present.

2:42:58

But I want you to do more of that.

2:43:00

So I am a mother, um, and I'm also a resident of District 8 if I didn't say that.

2:43:05

And my motivation can be linked back to Doctors is the story, the Lorac, which is a story about growth without limits, about decisions made for profit, and about what happens when no one speaks up in time.

2:43:17

I don't want El Paso to be the Lorac.

2:43:20

Don't fall through what they're telling you.

2:43:22

You know, you can do better for this community.

2:43:25

Um I'm against the data center.

2:43:27

I don't want them to get their tax money.

2:43:29

They made billions of dollars in revenue in 2025.

2:43:34

So stop the contract and break it.

2:43:36

Thank you.

2:43:38

And there are a lot of other um set members that are on the call right now that are not able to speak because of this rule, but we really want to impress upon you all that there are thousands of us.

2:43:50

Um our campaign has sent your offices over 4,000 emails explaining this, that we are against the meta data center specifically.

2:44:00

We're not gonna take an excuse.

2:44:02

This has to be broken.

2:44:04

This is an unjust contract.

2:44:07

And we've attended all the city all the city organized meetings.

2:44:12

We have organized community meetings of our own.

2:44:14

We held a town hall in March with over 400 people that attended.

2:44:19

We're not going to stop.

2:44:20

I want you to remember that as you leave today, we are relentless.

2:44:26

We're not going to stop until you do the right thing.

2:44:29

Thank you.

2:44:32

Council that concludes uh call to the public.

2:44:37

And for the going forward, uh, no use of personal cellular devices, nor personal communication should take place on the dais while the meeting is in session.

2:44:47

Once you obtain the floor from the mayor pro tem, you will have up to 10 minutes for debate and may speak twice per debatable motion.

2:44:54

Please speak into the microphone and refrain from side conversations at the day's while the meeting is in session.

2:45:00

For those of you joining virtually, please make sure your microphones are muted to reduce any background noise.

2:45:06

That brings us to the consent agenda.

2:45:08

All matters listed under the consent agenda, including those on the addition to the agenda will be considered by city council to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless separate discussion is requested by council members.

2:45:20

Prior to the vote, members of the audience may ask questions regarding items on the consent agenda.

2:45:25

When the vote has been taken, if an item has not been called out for separate discussion, the item has been approved.

2:45:30

Council may, however, reconsider any item at any time during the meeting.

2:45:35

Thank you, Ms.

2:45:35

Prime.

2:45:37

I make a motion to approve the consent agenda with the following revisions.

2:45:41

Page five, item 11, delete per representative Boyer Trejo.

2:46:04

Thank you.

2:46:05

We have a motion and a second and no discussion.

2:46:07

Ms.

2:46:08

Prime, please call for the vote for the consent agenda.

2:46:10

The motion was made by alternate mayor Protem Fiero, seconded by Representative Limon to approve the consent agenda as revised.

2:46:18

On that motion, call for the vote.

2:46:30

Voting session is open.

2:46:35

Representative Trejo.

2:46:38

Thank you.

2:46:38

We'll get someone to assist you.

2:46:40

And the voting session, and that motion passes unanimously.

2:46:45

That brings us to page number eight to the first reading of ordinances.

2:46:50

These are items 15 to 19.

2:46:56

I make a motion to move on the first reading of the ordinances.

2:47:07

Okay, Miss Prime, we have a motion and a second.

2:47:10

No discussion.

2:47:10

Can you please call for the vote?

2:47:12

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Representative Nino to approve the first reading of ordinances.

2:47:18

Items 15 to 19 on that motion, call for the vote.

2:47:25

And the voting session.

2:47:27

And that motion passes unanimously.

2:47:31

That brings us to page number nine.

2:47:34

Items 20 and 21 are related.

2:47:36

Mayor Pro Tem, would you like to take those together?

2:47:39

Yes, please.

2:47:40

Thank you.

2:47:40

Item 20 is a public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the conveyance of real property owned by the City of Al Paso to MEP electric contracting inc for the purchase price of $22,000.

2:47:51

The property described as lot 11 block E, Santa Fe Addition.

2:47:56

In addition to the City of Alpaso, Paso County, Texas.

2:47:59

Item 21 is the conveyance of real property also to MEP electric contracting inc for the purchase price of 22,000 dollars for the property described as lot 10, block E, Santa Fe edition, in addition to the City of Al Paso, El Paso County, Texas.

2:48:15

Representative Canales.

2:48:19

Thank you.

2:48:24

Well, first uh move to approve.

2:48:26

And then before we vote, uh I just wanted to say uh I appreciate the the flexibility of the proposed purchasers here.

2:48:34

I know we postponed this two weeks ago.

2:48:36

The neighborhood had a few questions.

2:48:39

Um and and they requested a little bit of time to have their questions answered.

2:48:43

That has now happened.

2:48:44

Um so I'm I'm happy to proceed with this.

2:48:47

Uh but I I just wanted to thank the uh the proposed buyer MEP Electric for their patience.

2:48:54

And that's all.

2:48:55

Thank you.

2:48:58

Ms.

2:48:58

Prime, we have a motion and a second.

2:49:00

No further discussion.

2:49:01

Can you please call for the vote?

2:49:02

Yes, a motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by alternate mayor Protenfiero to adopt items the ordinances on items 20 and 21.

2:49:12

There's no public comment on that motion.

2:49:14

Call for the vote.

2:49:25

And the voting session, and that motion passes unanimously.

2:49:30

That brings us to item number 22.

2:49:32

And this is a public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the conveyance of real property owned by the city of El Paso to Victor Hugo Durán Sancedo and Maricruz Moreno Sanchez for the purchase price of 39,228 dollars for the property described as lots 14 and 15, block three, map of Hughes subdivision out of block two, Alameda Acres, and in addition to the City of Al Paso, Paso County, Texas.

2:49:58

Move to approve.

2:50:02

Ms.

2:50:02

Prime, we have a motion and a second and no discussion from council.

2:50:06

Can we please call for the vote?

2:50:07

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Acevedo, seconded by Representative Maldonado Orocha to adopt the ordinance on item 22.

2:50:15

There's no public comment on that motion.

2:50:18

Call for the vote.

2:50:23

And the voting session.

2:50:25

And that motion passes unanimously.

2:50:29

Mary Lou, thank you.

2:50:31

Thank you.

2:50:32

Item 23 is a public hearing of an ordinance amending Title 12 vehicles in traffic to add chapter 12.57, electronically operated parking control systems to add definitions, imposition and amount of civil penalty, enforcement and procedures, administrative adjudication hearing, affirmative defenses, appeal, and enforcement of judgment.

2:50:57

Hi, Steve.

2:51:01

Do we have a presentation for this item?

2:51:03

Yes, Mayor Pro Tem.

2:51:04

Good afternoon, I believe.

2:51:06

Good afternoon.

2:51:07

Steve Alvarado for the record, code enforcement director.

2:51:10

Item 23, if uh IT can pull up the presentation, please.

2:51:16

Thank you.

2:51:32

Don't get it situated here.

2:51:33

There we go.

2:51:34

Thank you.

2:51:34

Thank you, IT.

2:51:36

Uh good afternoon, Mayor and Council, Steve Alvarado again.

2:51:39

Uh item 23 is Title 12 ordinance amendments.

2:51:42

What we are trying to uh effectuate here is add section 12.57 to this uh ordinance.

2:51:53

A little bit of background.

2:51:54

So the community concerns that we've heard from our community, and this is for over the two-year period with the social city assessment, the third party that did the uh overall venue safety, public safety.

2:52:05

Uh, these were some of the concerns that were brought up.

2:52:08

We also had a meeting a couple of weeks ago here downtown with the Social City Alliance continuing though those meetings as well.

2:52:15

Um lack of enforcement of residential parking permit was one of the major concerns that we heard.

2:52:21

Um, exceeding the time limits at these parking meters, which then impacts the businesses because there's no turnover really coming and going to, you know, people to come and have dinner or spend money downtown or wherever they may be, uptown and um, you know, Cincinnati district as well.

2:52:37

Uh many vehicles are parked in the crosswalks, blocking accessible access ramps, uh vehicles loading zones, which prohibits deliveries, and another major concern we heard was vehicles parking in sidewalks and bike lanes impeding the flow of pedestrian, cyclists, and vehicular traffic.

2:52:55

Some of the challenges that we face currently, and that we're looking to overcome these, is uh if the meter hours are extended from the normal hours to 8 to 6 p.m., we're going to need additional enforcement or any type of enforcement mechanisms.

2:53:08

This will help with those those enforcement moving forward in the future.

2:53:12

Currently, Caldwell Street behind the uh stadium operates a 24-7 meter zone, and in uptown meters are from 8 a.m.

2:53:19

to 3 a.m.

2:53:20

Um we encounter sometimes patrons become irate, um argumentative when they're receiving a ticket at night, so officer safety is is our utmost concern for this ordinance amendment as well.

2:53:35

Currently we have 1,669 parking meters throughout the city, which service 1,974 parking spaces, 1974 parking spaces.

2:53:45

So that's a broad area, a big area to cover with minimal parking enforcement uh officers on in the street, but this technology will help us once we do get to that point.

2:53:57

Uh the development team, and I would like to acknowledge my development team.

2:54:00

It was a collaboration between municipal court director Casas, also uh Paul Stresswood International Bridges, um, who are here with me today.

2:54:08

Thanks.

2:54:09

Thanks, team.

2:54:11

So we're adding section electronically operated parking control systems.

2:54:15

The primary focus of this is future integration of technology that will streamline our parking enforcement abilities.

2:54:21

Um it will allow us to do more with the current capacity that we have.

2:54:25

Um we're hoping to increase the parking available spaces as people start moving to you know comply with the time limits on parking meters or wherever it may be.

2:54:37

So what does Title 12 Amendment 12.57 actually do?

2:54:41

Uh it creates a civil penalty which is sent by mail.

2:54:45

Um so in the future, once we get technology, we will have the ability to walk down the street with a handheld scanner, scan a license plate to see if it's paid.

2:54:54

It'll do it automatically in real time.

2:54:57

Right now we actually have to go to a separate app.

2:55:00

It takes us a few minutes to confirm that the vehicle is paid a meter or not paid a meter and then issue a parking ticket.

2:55:05

It's very time consuming.

2:55:07

It's not very productive.

2:55:08

So we're looking to overcome those things.

2:55:22

What it does currently amend right now with our our paper tickets that we're issuing right now.

2:55:28

You have 14 days to appeal or contest a violation.

2:55:31

If you feel it's not right, you've got 14 days.

2:55:33

Since these will be mailed electronically, we're allowing 21 days an extra week because we have to take into account mail get there two, three, four days, whatever that may take.

2:55:42

It allows the person to add extra timeline to appeal or contest the citation.

2:55:47

And they'll still be appealed through the our municipal court process as well.

2:55:51

There will be a first level review once we get to that where yeah, citations valid, and then they'll be send out the actual citation.

2:56:00

So these are some of the parking technologies that are out there.

2:56:03

Um we're looking at uh in the future.

2:56:06

Um we are changing out the meters over the next two years, and that'll probably start in late summer of 2026.

2:56:13

But I'll let Paul give you an update individually.

2:56:16

He'll brief everybody.

2:56:17

Um we're changing all the parking meters to multi-space meters and and electronically updated parking meters with with solar panels, so it'll charge as well.

2:56:28

Um we're looking at real-time digital handheld ticket riders, like I mentioned earlier that'll communicate with the back end of the parking meters.

2:56:36

Yeah, this parking this vehicle paid the space, so it doesn't get a ticket at that point.

2:56:41

We're also looking at uh adding license plate recognition, which will recognize the license plate to see if it has paid the meter space, that's all it does.

2:56:49

Um stamp technology for to time limit violations.

2:56:52

So currently in downtown, some meters are two hours, some are four, some are six.

2:56:56

Uh many cars stay there well past the two hour limit.

2:57:00

Um so if we're driving down the street, we have a license plate reader, it'll tell timestamp the vehicle that's there, say at 10 a.m.

2:57:07

I'm walking down the street, it's two hour limit, we're there at one o'clock, which is three hours later.

2:57:12

I have the handle to tell me that vehicle has bypassed the time, therefore it'll be issue a ticket.

2:57:17

So it's integrating technology to to make us work more efficiently and you know, with the staff that we have, staffing levels that we have.

2:57:26

We'll also integrate Scofflaw recognition for vehicles that have outstanding parking violations that haven't been paid over over 30, 60 days, uh, which will help us to you know collect on some of those outdated uh citations.

2:57:39

Also uh fixed camera technology to monitor hot spots, parking zones, loading zones, things along that delivery zones, um, thing things along that line.

2:57:48

And it's important to note that we will be one of the first cities in Texas.

2:57:52

Um there's two other cities that currently have it.

2:57:55

Houston is developing it, but we'll be at the forefront forefront of this uh initiative of change.

2:58:00

So with that, I open it up to any questions counselor mayor may have.

2:58:06

Thank you, Steve.

2:58:07

Representative Rocha.

2:58:09

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

2:58:10

Thank you, Steve, and thank you to International Bridges and the municipal court for being able to bring this.

2:58:16

Uh I can share, I guess I will, that I did get a tour of the bridge, the bridges um just a few weeks ago, and so I saw the technology.

2:58:25

Um I I'm really excited about it.

2:58:27

The one question I have, because in the past, parking downtown, it's a little unclear of where to park for which meter.

2:58:35

So will striping and all of that be taken care of as well?

2:58:38

Once all and that's just a question in addition to the meters.

2:58:42

Meters are a great idea.

2:58:43

I I understand the the safety component to it and the ease.

2:58:47

I just want to know if the striping is going to take part as well.

2:58:50

Yeah, I'll let Paul answer that one.

2:58:56

Good afternoon.

2:58:57

Good afternoon, council.

2:58:58

Yes, we're working in partnership with streets and maintenance to make sure that all the striping and signage uh will be updated once we install some new meters.

2:59:07

Thank you.

2:59:08

I really appreciate it.

2:59:09

Thank you so much.

2:59:12

Representative Canales.

2:59:15

Thank you.

2:59:16

Um I think this is uh very long time coming.

2:59:20

I'm glad that you know it's taking a lot of work from you all.

2:59:22

So I I appreciate all the work across the various departments.

2:59:26

Um my constituents have been asking for uh all the meters are within district eight, uh, and so my my constituents have been asking for improved uh parking meters, enforcement um, and just parking experience in general for for quite some time.

2:59:43

And so I think this is a great step toward addressing a lot of those concerns that have come up.

2:59:48

Um it's not exactly this, so it's stop stop me, Ms.

2:59:55

Neiman, if we're a little bit off, but can you describe just a little bit some of the new parking meter technology that's being rolled out at the same time as as these changes?

3:00:04

Coinciding with the Paul come up and sure sorry Paul.

3:00:07

He's more versed at it than I am.

3:00:10

Uh because we have some excellent new meters uh about to be installed.

3:00:14

So the technology we're looking at adding is uh right now people they can pay by credit card coin or or using the app.

3:00:22

They'll be able to use those uh methods still, but they'll be able to tap with Apple Pay or Samsung Payne.

3:00:29

Or a card to Google Pay, right?

3:00:31

Or their watch.

3:00:33

So uh this technology is gonna make it a lot easier.

3:00:36

The screens are larger, uh the bilingual aspect right now.

3:00:41

The screen is very small, it's hard hard to read for a lot of people, especially when the sun's shining.

3:00:47

So the screens will be a lot larger.

3:00:48

They'll be able to see uh the bilingual um aspect, they'll be have a full screen, so you know, for our bilingual community.

3:00:57

Um the meters will communicate.

3:01:00

Uh Steve's working on some technology once he gets new handhelds, that technology will communicate.

3:01:05

So, and when people use the app now, only some of our meters place time on the meter with the app.

3:01:12

A hundred percent of our our new meters will do that when you pay with the app.

3:01:16

So for enforcement or or the person that's paying, they'll be assured that their payment, you know, went through.

3:01:23

Besides besides the receipt they get on the app.

3:01:27

Uh and we also have some of the kiosk style meters coming in.

3:01:31

Right.

3:01:31

So we're looking at multi multi-space meters too, which means we'll clean up the streetscape.

3:01:36

We won't have all those polls.

3:01:38

So uh the multi-space to look at areas uh where we have like 10 or less meters and we'll put in multi-space.

3:01:44

Some blocks might require two, just depends on how busy we're looking at hot spots uh based on activity.

3:01:52

Okay, yeah, excellent.

3:01:53

I think uh it's uh an investment in technology that like I said uh has been a long time coming, and and I'm really glad that uh we're finally making the change.

3:02:03

Uh I think I'll have a lot of happy constituents as well.

3:02:06

So thank you very much.

3:02:07

Thank you.

3:02:07

Thank you, Mayor Purden.

3:02:11

Thank you, Steve, for the presentation.

3:02:13

I don't believe there's any further discussion, Ms.

3:02:16

Prime.

3:02:17

Um could you please call for the vote?

3:02:19

Yes, the motion was made by alternate mayor pro Tim Piero, seconded by Representative Boyatrejo to adopt the ordinance on item 23 on that motion.

3:02:27

Call for the vote in the voting session.

3:02:35

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:02:37

Representative Acevedo not present.

3:02:40

Ms.

3:02:40

Prime, before we move on to the next item, I'd like to recognize former representative Joe Molinat who's in the audience today.

3:02:45

Thank you for joining us.

3:02:54

Welcome, Representative Molinar.

3:02:56

We now move to item 24, and this is a public hearing of an ordinance amending title 12 vehicles in traffic, speed limits 45 miles per hour to delete item 14 McComb Street from Dyer Street to Dalhart Drive, and to add item 40, McComb Street from Dyer Street to a point 3.70 miles north of Dyer Street, and to delete item 5 McComb Street from Dalhart Drive to its terminus at FM3255 and to add item 10 McComb Street from a point 3.70 miles north of Dyer Street to Stan Roberts Senior Road.

3:03:32

Second Welcome.

3:03:36

Hi.

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Welcome.

3:03:38

Hello.

3:03:38

Could we see the presentation, please?

3:03:40

Of course.

3:03:41

Thank you.

3:03:45

All right.

3:03:45

Hello, everyone, council.

3:03:47

My name is Joshua Lermo.

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I'm a planner with streets and maintenance.

3:03:50

This presentation is going to be pretty brief.

3:03:51

Um and it's um a speed uh speed zone reduction on uh McComb Street.

3:03:57

So next slide, please.

3:04:05

All right.

3:04:05

So we received this request from Techstot.

3:04:08

Um they conducted a strip map and speed zone study, which is basically an inventory of all assets along the street and of course speed.

3:04:14

Um and it what they got from that data is to extend the 45 mile per hour zone into the new residential areas.

3:04:20

And of course, we have to codify this, so that's why we're here today to codify it.

3:04:27

All right, so the top of the top map is the existing conditions and the bottom is the recommended.

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So I guess the main takeaway is to focus on the yellow portion.

3:04:37

It's to extend into the newer residential area.

3:04:41

Oh, and of course it's in District 4.

3:04:44

All right, the next four slides, including this one are action items.

3:04:47

So this slide is to uh delete the existing 45 mile per hour um speed area.

3:05:00

And this is to um correct or delete uh an error in the ordinance.

3:05:05

And this is to add the new um extended 45 mile per hour zone.

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And then this is to um add or amend the or shorten the 55 mile per hour zone.

3:05:17

I believe this concludes the presentation.

3:05:21

Thank you, Joshua.

3:05:22

Representative.

3:05:25

Thank you, Mary Pro Temp.

3:05:27

Thank you, Joshua.

3:05:28

This is uh this is very good for our community.

3:05:31

Yeah, you know, our office uh requested the traffic study because there's a lot of speeding in that area.

3:05:37

Are there any other safety measures that are being considered to reduce speeds beyond the the reduced speed limit?

3:05:44

Um good morning, Council Randy Garcia.

3:05:51

Streets and maintenance right now.

3:05:52

Uh we do have an HSIP project uh along with Text Dot that's still pending.

3:05:56

I think we're getting uh notice of that this week if it will be approved.

3:06:00

Um besides that, we don't have anything pending.

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We are working with your office, and of course, any other requests you have you can send uh send to us so we can evaluate through the city manager.

3:06:09

Okay.

3:06:10

I I think Ms.

3:06:11

Mack, this might be a good project for the Vision Zero.

3:06:14

I know Techstot also has their road to zero uh to look at additional measures to reduce speed, bike you know, bike lanes or something, because that is a very concerning area.

3:06:24

I live in the area th I I can tell you that the speed goes up to maybe 90 miles an hour at some times.

3:06:31

And so something something to consider for the future.

3:06:35

Yes, as soon as we get the word back from Textat um about the HSIP project that we did submit in conjunction with them if they receive funding for it, and if it was approved at the state level, we'll be more than happy to share that with you.

3:06:47

And if we need to look further into the conditions, I would be more than happy to do that for you.

3:06:51

Okay, thank you, Randy.

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Thank you.

3:06:54

Representative Canales.

3:06:57

I think that was a mistake.

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Thanks.

3:06:59

That was a mistake.

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I did.

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Okay.

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Didn't mean to push the button.

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Okay.

3:07:04

Thank you, Randy.

3:07:05

Thank you, Joshua.

3:07:05

Uh Ms.

3:07:06

Prime, there's no further discussion from council.

3:07:08

Can you please call for the vote?

3:07:09

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Boyatrejo, seconded by Representative Canales to adopt the ordinance on item 24.

3:07:16

There's no public comment on that motion.

3:07:18

Call for the vote.

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In the voting session, and that motion passes unanimously.

3:07:31

That's take item 25 25.

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And this is a introduction and public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of City of El Paso, Texas general obligation bonds in one or more series in an aggregate amount not to exceed 71 million 140,000 dollars, leaving a continuing direct annual ad valorem tax for the payment of such bonds, and resolving other the other matters which are necessary to effectuate such issuance.

3:08:00

Hi Robert, welcome.

3:08:02

Good afternoon, Ms.

3:08:03

Pine.

3:08:03

If you can actually read the other two items as well.

3:08:05

I have one presentation for the three items, but we will need separate action on each of the three items.

3:08:09

Yes, item 26 is an introduction and public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of City of El Paso, Texas general obligation refunding bonds, series 2026 in one or more series in an aggregate amount not to exceed 435 million dollars, three 435.3 million dollars for debt service savings, living and continuing direct ad valorem tax for the payment of such bonds and resolving other matters which are necessary to effectuate such issuance.

3:08:38

Item 27 is discussion and action on a resolution authorizing the redemption of certain outstanding obligations of the city, directing authorized city officials to effectuate the redemption of such obligations and resolving other matters incident and related thereto and providing an effective date.

3:09:01

Can we get a motion just on item 25?

3:09:05

Correct.

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Correct on each of the three items.

3:09:10

We'll take an we'll take a motion for item 25, right?

3:09:13

For the time being.

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Second.

3:09:16

Thank you.

3:09:19

Okay, good afternoon again.

3:09:20

Mayor Potem City Council, Robert Cortinas, City Manager's Office.

3:09:24

So this presentation will cover all three items.

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And so as was written to the record, we have three separate actions that will be requested.

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One will be the issuance of new debt for capital projects in the community progress bond, which is approved by the voters back in 2022.

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We have a refunding as well, and then the third item will be defeasance.

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And so essentially what we'll be doing with that item is paying off some bonds early.

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So these three items, a lot of work goes into these uh bond transactions, and so it takes a whole team to do this.

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The city manager, myself, our deputy CFO, city attorney's office, plays a critical role.

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But we also have other partners as well.

3:10:04

So we have with us today from Helltop Securities, Maria Urbina, who's very, very helpful.

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She's a key part of putting these transactions together.

3:10:12

We have our bond counsel, Mr.

3:10:13

Paul Braden, and we also have from Jeffries, who will be the lead on the underwriter syndicate, Pedro Ramos is here with us today as well.

3:10:21

And so pretty large transaction.

3:10:23

We have 500 writers selected for this particular transaction.

3:10:28

So just a couple of opening statements before we get into the actual presentation and the actual transaction.

3:10:34

So we've talked a lot about the debt management and how the city has been very proactive in addressing our debt one.

3:10:41

We want to make sure that one we're minimizing the impact on our taxpayers.

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We know that's extremely important.

3:10:46

But secondly, we also want to make sure that we have the funds necessary to be able to invest in the capital projects to deliver the services to our community.

3:10:53

And so along with that comes the important role of how we're managing our debt to ensure that we're doing everything we can to keep those costs down, and a part of that will be through the credit rating, which we'll talk a little bit about here in just a few slides.

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So you're going to hear a presentation a little bit later today from Ms.

3:11:12

Marin and our external auditor who will cover the FY2025 external audit results.

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And so with that comes again, not only how we're managing city's debt, but how we're managing city finances in general, right?

3:11:25

And so it's very, very important one that we're building credibility not only with the city council or continue to build credibility, but also with the community, and then finally with all of our investors and stakeholders.

3:11:36

And so those investors are relying upon the information that's provided and produced in all of those financial reports, one for accuracy, and then two that we're following all of the gap accounting principles, and then finally that we're we have strong internal controls and that we're following all of city policies and procedures.

3:11:52

So I don't want to share all of the good news too soon, jump ahead of them, but again, very very successful results with what we've been able to accomplish for the last 10 years on those external audits and with this presentation in particular and how we manage the city's debt.

3:12:08

So this slide, I've shown this slide a few times going back to last June, July, just because it really speaks to again the city being proactive and how we're managing the city's debt.

3:12:18

You will see over the last five years, we've managed to bring that down the principal amount to be very clear by $300 million in the last five years.

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So going from a total of $1.6 billion down to just over $1.3 billion again in the last five years.

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And we've been able to do this through one, the annual work payments on those bonds, but then also through other available tools as well, including one the refundings that we've been able to take advantage of, which you'll hear in just a minute, and then a couple of defeasances as well, so paying bonds off early.

3:12:52

If you were to add in the interest associated with these bonds as well, that's another 200 million dollars, so a total of almost 500 million dollars of debt reduction in the last five years.

3:13:03

We do have debt limitations set forth in our debt management policy, and so you will see on here the maximum currently allowed and the actual for all three of these.

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You will see that we are well below those debt limits.

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We've continued to show improvement in these all three of these over the last several years.

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The bottom one there shows that the debt management policy allows for a debt, excuse me, a debt rate of 40 cents per 100 evaluation, and we are currently at just over 21 cents, so well below almost half of the amount allowed for that debt management policy.

3:13:36

I spoke a little bit about the importance of the bond ratings, and um again that really speaks to essentially the investors' risk.

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It really wants to highlight and show that one, they can invest in the city and not have any risk of the city defaulting on those bonds.

3:13:52

You will see the city's current ranking ratings.

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We are currently at double A with SP and Fitch, double A plus with Kroll.

3:13:58

And we will be going through the updated bond rating process here in the next few weeks as part of this upcoming transaction.

3:14:07

Currently, the existing status of our current bonds, the public safety bond and the community progress bond again, both approved by the voters.

3:14:14

The state infrastructure bank loans was approved by city council last year.

3:14:18

Um so overall remaining amount of debt to be issued over the next several years, just under 434 or 494 million, and I'll go through this because one of the last couple of slides that we want to show you all is what that impact and what the future issuances will look like, in addition to what we have planned with this upcoming transaction.

3:14:36

Um, additionally, you will see a presentation here, just a couple of items on this current agenda from the capital improvement department that will give you the quarterly update on all of the capital projects and where we are with the status of those.

3:14:49

So, as I mentioned, you're gonna see that information from them, but we have a couple of slides that show the current status of both the public safety and the community progress bond, uh the current expenses as of February 28th, and the remaining amount to be spent.

3:15:02

This is public safety.

3:15:04

This is the community progress bond.

3:15:08

And then moving into the actual item.

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So item 25 is the first item that you will be taking action on.

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This item is a new money issuance.

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So this will be the second issuance for the community progress bond.

3:15:20

Those bonds were approved by the voters back on November 8th of 2022.

3:15:24

We did do the publication as required in the El Paso Times back on April 3rd, as well as posted on the city's website in our public hearing section on the city's website to again notify the public of this item today.

3:15:37

And so what we are recommending to issue and what you all be approving is again $70 million for capital projects, including $52.9 million for proposition A, which is the street projects, $14 million for proposition B, which is the park projects, and then proposition C, the remaining amount of $3.1 million for the economy climate projects.

3:15:58

Included in the ordinance that you all be approving is again these parameters.

3:16:03

So these are the specifics that the pricing officers, which would be the city manager and myself, would need to meet in order to move forward with this transaction.

3:16:11

Again, item 25 is just for this new money for the community progress bond.

3:16:17

So total aggregate principal amount not to exceed $71.14, which is the amount for the capital projects and the issuance cost.

3:16:24

True interest cost rate not to exceed 5.25%, which, as I briefed you all last week, again blowing in a little bit of flexibility on that interest rate.

3:16:34

Just again, some market volatility.

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We uh hopefully will not see rates that high, but again, we want to make sure that we have some flexibility.

3:16:41

Again, we plan not to go to market until probably late May, early June.

3:16:45

The maximum maturity date is December 31st of 2051.

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And then finally, we do have or requesting to have up to 365 days to move forward with the transaction.

3:16:56

That being said, again, that provides some flexibility, but we anticipate, as I mentioned, to actually go out and price these bonds in late May, early June, again, so that we know exactly what our debt service will be for the upcoming fiscal year as we get in begin budget discussions, and then same thing for the refunding, which I will cover here in just the next few slides.

3:17:13

So moving on to the refunding ordinance, so item 26.

3:17:18

Again, just included a little bit of information just for the public's sake on what is a refunding or a refinancing.

3:17:25

Um essentially, what ends up happening is when the city issues bonds is we build in call dates, and so typically 10 years from the date of the issuance, and then that allows the city to go out and actually do a refunding or refinancing at that when that particular bond becomes callable.

3:17:40

So the city does this for debt service savings.

3:17:42

So if interest rates are favorable, we can go out and take those bonds, sell them back, and issue new bonds at lower interest rate, which again generates debt service savings for the city.

3:17:51

So in our debt management policy, we do have a minimum threshold that we need to meet on that net present value savings for a current refunding.

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We currently have it listed as two percent.

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You will see on the parameters though, we actually have it at 3%.

3:18:04

So we want to make sure everyone that we're going out and doing transaction.

3:18:07

There's a lot of time and effort that goes into these transactions.

3:18:10

We want to ensure that we're again generating a worthwhile net present value on any particular refunding that we may do.

3:18:20

So this particular refunding, um, as I mentioned to you all when we did the briefings last week.

3:18:26

Currently on the slide shows what we estimated as of about two weeks ago or so.

3:18:31

The market has changed dramatically in the last couple of months.

3:18:34

We all are well aware of what's going on currently with the war in Iran.

3:18:39

It has had an impact on the municipal markets.

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We've seen things calm down a little bit, but still not where they were a few months ago.

3:18:46

And so I'll go through the parameters here on the next slide.

3:18:49

But as of right now, we're looking at essentially refunding about 227.8 million dollars of bonds with that all in uh true interest cost rate of about 3.6 percent, and that would generate about $13 million of debt service savings.

3:19:03

A very large, pretty significant refunding that uh will be taking place here when we price these bonds.

3:19:09

Um, the last four refundings that we've done don't even add up to this amount.

3:19:16

And so we did refunding last year, much smaller, but generated about three million dollars of savings.

3:19:21

So, again, this one right now estimated to save about 13 million, or that net present value savings of about 5.38%.

3:19:29

Um, so as I mentioned, we started working on this in January.

3:19:33

That savings amount was much larger in February.

3:19:36

I won't say what it was out loud, but it was much larger than what we are showing here today.

3:19:40

However, that being said, included in the parameters that we have again, the pricing officer, the city manager myself.

3:19:47

Um, you'll see that second bullet point the aggregate original principal amount of the bonds will not exceed that 435.35 million.

3:19:55

That's the total amount of bonds that are callable.

3:20:03

However, unfortunately, right now some of those maturities are not generating savings, and so as I showed you on the previous slide, is what we're kind of estimating right now.

3:20:11

But again, things could change.

3:20:12

Hopefully, things will change in the next several weeks, and we'll be able to actually go out and refund more.

3:20:17

However, you'll see again in the ordinance and the parameters, what you are approving is that $435 million.

3:20:23

Again, we need to meet at least 3% savings, as I mentioned.

3:20:27

The true interest cost rate on these refundings will be 5%.

3:20:31

One of the things we always point out is that second bullet from the bottom is that we maintain the original maturity date of December 31st, 2042.

3:20:38

We do not extend the life of the bonds from the original maturity date when we do our refunding.

3:20:43

And then finally, the last point there again that I mentioned for the new money issuance up to 365 days to move forward with the transaction.

3:20:50

But again, as I mentioned, right now, our tentative timeline, which I'll show you here at the very end, is probably late May, early June.

3:20:56

That way the refunding will be done, the new issuance will be done, and we'll know exactly what our debt service rate needs to be as we begin budget discussions for the FY2027 budget.

3:21:07

The third item, item number 27 is a redemption of bonds.

3:21:10

So this is a defeasance.

3:21:13

Essentially, what we're doing here is an early payoff.

3:21:15

So again, we've done a few of these in the last couple of years.

3:21:18

It's a very small payoff, but it's a very powerful and impactful one on our existing debt.

3:21:24

And so with this particular item right now, this is the 2014 general obligation refunding bonds that we will be paying off.

3:21:32

Currently, there's about 1.8 million owed total principal and interest.

3:21:36

And so with this transaction, what we are requesting is to take 1.4 million from our debt service reserves.

3:21:42

We will defease these bonds, we'll transfer those funds to the paying agent, and with that transaction, no will uh those bonds will no longer be obligations of the city, and we'll end up saving over 427,000 dollars of interest by paying them off early.

3:21:57

And so this particular item is a resolution again that you all be approving that aggregate principal amount of 1.375.

3:22:03

Again, very small issuance costs of just um around 35,000.

3:22:08

Again, you're approving the transfer to computer share trust, who will be the paying agent and registrar.

3:22:12

Once that deposit is done and that transaction is made, again, those bonds will be considered a fees and no longer obligations of the city.

3:22:21

And then the last couple of slides here, again, going back to how I started.

3:22:25

Um we do still have, as I mentioned, just under 494 million of bonds to be issued between the public safety, community progress, and the state infrastructure bank loans, which is the city's match for the MPO projects.

3:22:37

Um looking into the future, again, we have projections on how much we're going to need to issue in the future years.

3:22:44

Again, uh all depending upon the timing of the projects.

3:22:48

And so again, uh we work very closely with the capital improvement department.

3:22:52

You'll see FY27 going all the way out through 2033 will be the final year in which we plan to issue bonds for those two bond projects.

3:23:01

And then we like to show you what the impact will be on the overall debt service rate, and to be very clear to show you all what the impact will be, not only from the the bonds that we are looking to issue and refund with this transaction, but this model includes the issuance for all of the remaining debt that we have approved by the voters and by the city council with those with those street infrastructure bank loans.

3:23:24

So very encouraging.

3:23:26

I know a lot of discussion takes place every time we do community meetings and we go out and we talk to the public about the city's debt and what is the city doing.

3:23:33

And so again, I started with what we've been doing that $300 million reduction in debt principal is significant.

3:23:40

Almost 20% reduction.

3:23:42

20% reduction in the last five years.

3:23:45

And so what this shows is that as we look to the next essentially next three budget years, looking at 2027, 28, and 29, is essentially even with issuing this debt, being able to keep our debt service tax rate flat.

3:23:58

Very, very minimal increases.

3:24:00

Um you'll see you know, two tenths or four-tenths in one year, but again, essentially flat, just around 21 cents over the next three fiscal years.

3:24:09

You'll see as we move to the year 2030, a little bit of an increase of about a penny and a half.

3:24:15

However, there are future refunding opportunities.

3:24:18

We will continue to monitor just like we have been doing potential opportunities to do any other defeasances or any other opportunities to be able to bring those costs down into the future.

3:24:29

Uh, one of the things that I'll highlight as well, because this goes all the way out through 2037, which seems like it's an eternity away, but it's actually not, it's you know a little more than 10 years away.

3:24:42

It's not that far.

3:24:44

And we can put it on one slide now, and it's not super tiny, so you can actually see it.

3:24:48

And so in 2032 to 2033, you'll see a pretty large reduction in the debt service rate.

3:25:00

And then you'll see another large reduction from 2034 into 2035 as we start to pay off more bonds.

3:25:06

And so again, really a couple of strategies.

3:25:11

So one is how do we get through issuing the remaining bonds that the voters have approved without increasing the debt service rate, but then two looking out into the future and again building up that capacity for uh again the future and the investment that we're gonna need in our capital projects.

3:25:26

My last slide here is just to provide you a high very high level schedule of events.

3:25:31

So you all be approving these items today.

3:25:33

We have bond rating uh meetings scheduled for April 23rd or 24th.

3:25:38

We'll get those scheduled.

3:25:40

We are tentatively, as I mentioned, scheduled to price bonds later in the month of May, probably pushing back to uh later in May or early June.

3:25:49

And then after that, several weeks later, we'll actually close on those bonds and then actually receive the proceeds.

3:25:55

And so with that, I will be happy to answer any questions.

3:25:58

And as I mentioned, yes, we do need uh action on each items individually.

3:26:03

Thank you, Robert.

3:26:03

Uh Representative Canales.

3:26:06

Thank you.

3:26:07

Um slide 22 is great, shows out into the future.

3:26:12

Um I I want to look the other direction a little bit at the past.

3:26:18

Um I I think it's important in showing the impact of these types of refund the savings that uh from refundings, uh, the type of impact that this has on debt uh debt service tax rate over time.

3:26:32

So looking back the other direction.

3:26:33

I don't know if we can bring up the slide uh number 22.

3:26:36

If we can go back to the slideshow.

3:26:41

It's in slide 22.

3:26:42

You can see that up.

3:26:44

Slight increase from 21 to 23, and then uh decrease after that.

3:26:49

But I'll remind the public that the debt service tax rate in fiscal year 2020 was 30 cents.

3:26:57

Um we've seen reduction pretty much year on year since then 28 cents in 2021, 29 cents in 22, 28 cents and 23, 26 cents and 24, 23 cents and 25, down to this much lower kind of shelf, right?

3:27:16

We we we see some slight increase as these issuances come up over the next couple of years.

3:27:22

Um but nothing close to the 30 cents that we were at just six years ago.

3:27:28

Um and so uh that's a testament to the work that's been uh done by you and your team, Robert and and Ms.

3:27:37

Mack, but also to uh councils before us and and you know maybe pat ourselves on the back a little bit for some decisions we've made in in uh reducing that outstanding uh outstanding obligation and uh making decisions like these refundings, uh like some of the defeasances that that have really reduced that that service tax rate over time.

3:28:02

So again, kudos to you and to the whole team.

3:28:06

Um we we get to approve or not approve, but you all do a lot of the work, all of the work crunching the numbers, making making all of this uh possible for us.

3:28:17

So uh appreciate it very much.

3:28:20

Thank you.

3:28:21

Okay.

3:28:22

Representative Fierro.

3:28:24

Thank you.

3:28:25

Mr.

3:28:25

Cortinas, uh first and foremost, 20% reduction in debt's amazing.

3:28:30

You know, congratulations to you and your team.

3:28:32

That's uh it's great work, and you made um you make us look all taller, darker, more handsome.

3:28:38

Thank you.

3:28:38

Um I have a question for you in regards to item 25.

3:28:42

I I got an email with some s with some concern about this, but this is the voters approved these dollars to be to be spent, to be utilized by the city.

3:28:55

Is that am I correct?

3:28:56

Yes, it's correct.

3:28:57

So this is not just some random 71 million dollars that you that you're throwing on to to fix the budget or make it look better.

3:29:03

No, as I mentioned, these are community progress bonds again approved by the voters back on November 8th of 2022.

3:29:09

So that's a good question.

3:29:10

So I'll take just a second here to elaborate a little bit.

3:29:13

So a lot of members in the community may think that once they approve those bonds, so for example, that 2022 community progress bond that we move forward or the city moves forward with issuing all of those bonds at all at once.

3:29:24

And that is not the case.

3:29:27

Our capital improvement department does that fantastic job, but there's no way just from a capacity issue that they could spend that money down in two or three years and get all those projects done.

3:29:37

It's just not because of them, but just in general with capacity of vendors and just getting the work done.

3:29:42

So we issue those bonds as we need those proceeds, the cash to keep those projects moving.

3:29:48

And so um you're gonna hear an update from, as I mentioned, that them on the status of those projects and where we are.

3:29:53

Uh we've issued 46 million for those projects already.

3:29:56

This will be another 70 million again just to keep those projects moving.

3:30:00

And then we continue to review that every you know month, basically we're meeting just to keep track of the cash flow, see how we're doing.

3:30:06

Do we need to revise our estimate for what we're planning for next year?

3:30:09

And so that's really the approach that we take is we're only issuing debt as we need it, right?

3:30:13

We don't want to issue debt and start paying debt service on it unless we actually need the money to keep those projects moving.

3:30:18

Thank you for that explanation.

3:30:20

There was some confusion, you know, a couple emails I got that it that's not what we were doing.

3:30:24

So thank you for explaining that.

3:30:26

Thank you, Mayor.

3:30:28

Representative Nina.

3:30:29

Thank you, Mayor Botem.

3:30:31

And uh Fiero still the question that I was going to ask, you know, this is voter approved.

3:30:36

And I think overall there's been a lot of need all across the city, and you know, the voters gave us that opportunity to really move forward with key projects that are needed all across the entire city.

3:30:48

But I also want to congratulate you on you know being strategic and having that 20% reduction of debt in the last five years.

3:30:55

I think that's huge when it comes to the debt service rate, specifically when we're you know talking to the budget process, how the tax rate is made in different portions from that property tax and the actual debt service rate.

3:31:06

So thank you for all the work that that you do with that.

3:31:09

Um I I I think it's also key and important to highlight, you know, on how you mentioned that when it comes to can you explain a little bit what refund uh refunding means.

3:31:22

I know that I talked about that a little bit in the FOAC.

3:31:25

Yeah, so uh essentially what it is is the city builds in these things called a call date any time we issue debt.

3:31:31

And so that call date is the opportunity at which we can take those bonds and actually go out and do a refunding.

3:31:35

So if you own a home, an interest rate market is favorable, which right now we know it isn't.

3:31:41

But when it is, you can let's say you have a five percent interest rate on your on your mortgage, and interest rates that say go down to three percent, which they were not that long ago.

3:31:51

You can take that mortgage, you can refund it, essentially pay it off, and you take out a new mortgage at that lower interest rate, and your monthly payment comes down.

3:31:59

No different than what the city does is we take these bonds, we'll go out, we'll sell them, reissue new bonds at a lower borrowing cost, and brings down our overall debt service rate.

3:32:09

So pretty simple, but obviously we have to wait when those bonds become callable.

3:32:13

We can't just do uh a refunding at any given time, they have to be callable.

3:32:16

Um there was a time when that was a little bit different, but that's for another day.

3:32:20

Um, but that's essentially what what the refunding is.

3:32:23

It's essentially that just a refinancing, getting a lower borrowing cost and bringing down that dirt debt service amount.

3:32:29

Yeah, and I always ask that question because I am sure individuals get confused when the word refunding gets used.

3:32:34

But I know that's our terminology, but it's refinancing.

3:32:38

You know, I'm also grateful that um you look at the different avenues of you know when it's a refunded obligation, we must produce a present value debt service of savings of at least three percent.

3:32:49

But here you're sharing with us that it's producing uh 5.38 percent, which is a huge accomplishment.

3:32:56

And again, it's not easy to say that you know, when you are making these strategic moves, uh, you're producing millions of dollars of savings to the taxpayer, and and we're very grateful for you for coming up with that strategy.

3:33:08

Um even on item number 27 when it comes to the redemption of the outside bonds on that one specifically.

3:33:14

I know that I talked to you about it.

3:33:16

And even paying off that specific balance, producing half a million, almost nearly five half a million dollars of savings is gonna help the taxpayer in the long run.

3:33:24

So we're really grateful for all the work that you're doing and the entire team when it comes to these conversations and uh looking positive to the future of really you know being strategic.

3:33:35

Thank you.

3:33:35

Thank you, Mayor.

3:33:37

Representative Acevedo.

3:33:39

Thank you, Mayor Proton.

3:33:41

Um Robert, great job.

3:33:43

Really enjoyed looking at the presentation with you last week.

3:33:46

There's there's a lot here.

3:33:48

I wanted to focus on slide seven.

3:33:54

And I don't know if we could bring that up.

3:33:56

I just wanted to overall get your comments again on this.

3:33:59

I know you went through it in the presentation, but just are you happy with the maximum and the actual here?

3:34:06

Yes, actually, yes.

3:34:08

All of those metrics are extremely positive right now with where we are at.

3:34:13

Um so basically that just kind of a measure to see where you rank.

3:34:17

And so um we look at total debt to our tax base or taxable value amount.

3:34:23

We look at the percentage of debt compared to our operating budget, and then finally the the debt rate.

3:34:27

So the debt rate, that 40 cents was changed in 2018, I believe.

3:34:34

Maybe early 2019, but I believe 2018.

3:34:37

So the city council at the time approved going up to that 40 cents because we were in the process of looking at the public safety bond.

3:34:44

And so at that time, again, working with our municipal advisor, we were projecting at that point in time to get to close to that 40 cent amount.

3:34:52

This is public safety.

3:34:53

So this is before community progress bond or anything else that we've done since then.

3:34:58

We were looking at uh that time projected to get close to that 40 cents.

3:35:02

And as you saw in that last slide, not only getting through the public safety bonds, but also looking at the community progress bonds right now.

3:35:08

We're only projected to hit around 23 cents.

3:35:11

So we have made significant strides in again minimizing the impact.

3:35:16

And so I you get to see and hear the numbers piece.

3:35:20

And the CID gets to show you all the pretty pictures of what is being constructed.

3:35:24

And I think that that's the piece that we have to keep reminding the public, right?

3:35:29

It's yes, we're we're aware that we're issuing debt.

3:35:33

But we're bringing those borrowing costs down, we're saving money through the refunding or refinancing, and then on top of that, what are you getting?

3:35:40

And so you'll get to see and hear the projects that are being delivered to the community.

3:35:44

So some pretty significant projects, not only in the community progress, but the public safety as well, with you all recently approving that public safety complex project, which will be again the largest capital project that the city has done over 200 million dollars.

3:35:57

And so again, it's all of us working together.

3:36:01

Umette Hernandez and this capital improvement department and Marguerite and I we work very closely because we want to make sure that we're all on the same page and that we're all aware of timing of projects, amount of cash that they're gonna need again, so that we can keep our model as as fresh as possible.

3:36:18

That that sounds like a big deal.

3:36:19

And I I mean thinking in 2018 that you're gonna go to 40 cents and now eight years later you're thinking you're gonna hit 23.

3:36:28

That's uh something to celebrate.

3:36:30

So congratulations on that.

3:36:31

I'm really glad that they got you a new computer because maybe you wouldn't have been able to do that for us.

3:36:36

Um but um I I think that this is a good sign of where we're at overall.

3:36:41

I kind of wanted to ask what you would feel comfortable with in terms of what our bonding capacity is.

3:36:49

Maybe not the maximum, but just a dollar amount in terms of where you would feel comfortable going into everything you presented up to 2037.

3:36:59

Well, that's probably a discussion for another day, but what uh what I will say is I'll go back to that slide towards the end.

3:37:19

Is that as we look to as we look to issue out the remaining bonds that have been approved by the voters and the small amount for the state infrastructure bank loans that we have, almost half a billion dollars is a lot of debt to still issue.

3:37:33

Um 494 million dollars roughly to still issue over the next few years.

3:37:39

That being said, you'll see an FY27 and 28.

3:37:42

So as we look to the next couple of years, pretty large issuance is planned right now, around 136 and then 130 million, and then after 2028, it starts to taper off a little bit.

3:37:52

The annual issuance amounts that we'll need to do will start to come down.

3:37:59

So again, really the strategy is how how can we go about one minimizing the impact over the next several years as we're issuing the the remaining amounts, but then two, how are we building future capacity?

3:38:11

We talked a little bit about that.

3:38:13

And so as we look, what is that what is that number what will we feel comfortable about?

3:38:17

But I think that that's probably part of a larger discussion as we look to future capital improvement projects, which we all know eventually is gonna come the time to start to have that discussion, whatever that's going to look like.

3:38:29

We're in the process right now of our parks master plan being done, and so we'll see what comes about from that.

3:38:35

The comprehensive plan, a lot of discussion about housing, a lot of different areas we know have been discussed recently.

3:38:42

And so our job is to ensure that we're in a position financially where we can have those discussions.

3:38:48

And this slide really speaks to well, a few slides, but this slide really speaks to we're gonna be able to issue out that remaining debt with minimal impact on the tax rate going forward by issuing that debt.

3:38:58

And then not that far off into the future, we do have a lot of debt that'll be retired that will create that future capacity that we can begin to have those discussions.

3:39:07

The city has issued a lot of debt.

3:39:08

I think we all know that.

3:39:09

We don't we don't shy away from it.

3:39:11

The city has issued a lot of debt since 2012, between not only the 2012 Quad of Life, but also the 2012 street projects, and then we did three different capital improvement plants of various COs.

3:39:24

So a lot of COs were issued between 2017 and 2021, which I will say the city has not issued certificates of obligation since 2021.

3:39:36

So it's been five years already.

3:39:37

No COs, no plan to issue CEOs.

3:39:40

You all recently approved, essentially deprogram some projects that were going to be funded by COs.

3:39:45

Um so I'm giving you a long-winded answer.

3:39:47

I I know.

3:39:48

No, I appreciate it.

3:39:49

This is but it's but it's it's really just about one managing our current debt that we have to get through, sort of, and then we can start to have those discussions about what that would do as far as impacting the debt rate into the future.

3:40:01

Okay.

3:40:01

Thank you so much.

3:40:03

Representative Rocha.

3:40:07

Thanks.

3:40:08

Thank you, Robert.

3:40:09

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

3:40:10

Sorry about that.

3:40:12

Two questions for you.

3:40:15

Well, what and a statement.

3:40:17

I'm I'm very happy to see the media here today because we talked about the congratulations on the bond rating.

3:40:24

You almost kind of glossed over it.

3:40:26

And I read it in the SP last week that it was shared of El Paso's bond rating.

3:40:33

So just it's an amazing feat to be able to be rated as high as we are from municipality, I believe, in just reading that that statement that they shared.

3:40:45

Two, um, is there any oversight on these bonds?

3:40:49

Or what is I should say, what is the oversight on the bonds, Robert?

3:40:55

Oh my goodness.

3:40:56

So just for the public in a short brief, because I I want to make sure that the public's aware that there is oversight of these bonds, right?

3:41:03

Yes.

3:41:04

And so I I don't want you to go into specifics, but just to make sure that that we understand that there is oversight and and you're doing your due diligence that's required by law, and and in addition, just making yourselves make sure that that you are in compliance.

3:41:21

So first we have excellent attorneys, not only in our city attorney's office, but we also have obviously our bond counsel, uh, Mr.

3:41:28

Braden, who will put a lot of time and effort into the remaining steps.

3:41:33

There's going to be a lot that goes in into actually making this deal happen.

3:41:37

Um attorney general approvals, there's a lot of things that are going to be required.

3:41:42

Um but one of the things that we've really implemented over the last several years is within our debt management policy, we incorporated a whole new section related to the post-issuance compliance.

3:41:51

And so every year, around the March or April time frame, we sit down and we go through all of our bonds.

3:41:57

We look at the spin down, we're making sure that we're in compliance with the IRS arbitrage and the yield restrictions.

3:42:03

So we do that continuously.

3:42:05

We're always monitoring our bonds, and so a lot of compliance goes into one IRS, but then also city policies as well, right?

3:42:13

So we have our own our own city policies that we're managing as well with the debt management policy, um, ensuring that those projects are with allowed within the any time we do uh maybe a transfer, we're ensuring that those projects are within the the bond covenants that they're allowed.

3:42:28

Um so there's quite a bit of compliance that goes into each of the bond issuances.

3:42:33

Thank you, Robert.

3:42:33

And then just a final question.

3:42:36

Um, what exactly I guess is there a place that the public would be able to go online and find out uh this information that you share today?

3:42:45

So, Ms.

3:42:45

Mack, being a former librarian and Miss Norma Martinez are current library.

3:42:49

We have a wealth of information on I refer to the OTC website as a library of financial reports and documents that anybody can access, free of charge.

3:42:58

Um, if you go to the City of El Paso website, Office of the Comptroller, there's any and every report that you would ever want to see.

3:43:06

We have our annual competence of financial report, our interim statements, our single audits, we have our ARPA reporting that's required.

3:43:15

All of those documents can be found there, and not just for the current year, we have prior years and prior periods as well.

3:43:21

Thank you, Robert.

3:43:21

I really appreciate it and congrats on the bond rating.

3:43:24

Thank you.

3:43:25

Representative Treco.

3:43:27

Thank you, Mayor Tip.

3:43:29

Hi, Robert.

3:43:30

Um, quick question, just one question.

3:43:32

When you're looking at refinancing these bonds at a lower interest rate, are you extending the terms?

3:43:37

We never extend the maturity.

3:43:38

And I have it on the slide there.

3:43:40

The city never extends the maturity of those of those bonds.

3:43:42

Okay, very good.

3:43:43

Thank you.

3:43:45

Robert, thank you for the presentation.

3:43:47

It's it's great.

3:43:48

And actually, I think my community asks me if we voted for these bonds and these projects, why don't they get done sooner, right?

3:44:00

So could you talk to us a little bit about how you work closely with capital improvements, how you come to decide which projects move forward, which ones need to wait.

3:44:09

Is it dependent on the cost of those projects or the capacity, or what other things come into that decision making process?

3:44:18

I'll let them matter some of it.

3:44:20

I think you all have been on council now for a little while, so you know that purchasing process is not always the most quickest, but it's it's like that for a reason, right?

3:44:31

We want to always make sure that we're giving everybody a fair opportunity to submit bids.

3:44:35

Um different factors impact different projects, whether it's acquiring the land, so site locations can slow down a project, size, scope.

3:44:45

There are a lot of different factors that it can impact different projects.

3:44:49

Um just have a good understanding from the engineers' role of or their perspective of or do they have the cash they need to keep the projects moving?

3:45:01

We never want to go into negative cash, and that's again that's a whole other discussion, but we always want to make sure that we're keeping things flowing.

3:45:08

And so we sit down and it's good for them as well because they have to explain it's accountants and engineers having to talk.

3:45:15

So it's good because we could see from the engineers' perspective, but then they get to hear from our perspective of okay.

3:45:22

Well, this is why we're asking you these questions.

3:45:24

We know you have to go through design, and we know that that takes X amount of time.

3:45:28

We know you have to go through all of the pre-construction and then all of the different depending upon the type of procurement can impact the speed of a project.

3:45:35

Um so all of those things again, it really just helps them to have a good understanding of the timing and the actual cash flow, which helps us again in turn make sure that we've got good information to share to you all as we're updating that tax model.

3:45:48

So if you're issuing these bonds, it's because you're ready to move on these projects.

3:45:52

Yes, and so for example, the community progress bond, as of about two weeks ago, there was $18 million left of bonds we had already issued.

3:45:59

That will probably be gone by the end of August.

3:46:01

And so as we start this new fiscal year, we need to make sure that we have bond proceeds in place so that we keep those projects moving.

3:46:09

And it's really an investment in our community that's a voter approved.

3:46:12

Absolutely.

3:46:13

Thank you, Robert, for the information.

3:46:15

I I congratulate you as well for the work well done.

3:46:18

Okay.

3:46:19

Ms.

3:46:20

Prime, I don't think there's any further discussion.

3:46:22

I think we can call the vote for item 25.

3:46:24

Yes, ma'am.

3:46:25

The motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Representative Gonales to adopt the ordinance on item 25.

3:46:32

There's no public comment on that motion.

3:46:35

Call for the vote.

3:46:43

And the voting session.

3:46:46

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:46:51

Move to approve item 26.

3:46:53

Second.

3:47:00

May I call for the vote on item 26?

3:47:03

Ms.

3:47:03

Prime, do you want to read it into the record once more?

3:47:06

Yes, item 26 is a introduction and public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of City of El Paso, Texas General Obligation Refunding Bonds Series 2026 and one or more series in an aggregate aggregate amount not to exceed 435 million 355,000 for debt service savings, living a continuing direct ad annual ad valorem tax for the payment of such bonds and resolving other matters which are necessary to effectuate such issuance.

3:47:52

And the voting session.

3:48:10

Second by Representative Boyatrejo, and this is to approve the resolution on item 27.

3:48:19

And this is discussion in action or resolution authorizing the redemption of certain outstanding obligations of the city, directing authorized city officials to effectuate the redemption of such obligations and resolving other matters incident and related thereto and providing an effective date.

3:48:35

Ms.

3:48:35

Prime, we have a motion and a second.

3:48:37

Can you please call for the vote?

3:48:38

Yes, ma'am.

3:48:39

On that motion, call for the vote.

3:48:46

And the voting session.

3:48:48

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:48:55

I make a motion that we recess for lunch for one hour, please.

3:49:00

There's a motion and a second to recess the city council meeting for one hour.

3:49:03

All in favor?

3:49:05

Anyone opposed?

3:49:07

And the city council meeting is in recess at 1255 p.m.

3:49:11

for one hour.

3:49:13

Returning at 155, Ms.

3:49:15

Prime?

3:49:15

Correct, sir.

3:49:16

Okay.

3:49:18

Thank you, Ms.

3:49:19

Prime.

3:49:46

Ms.

3:49:46

Prime, do we have corn?

3:49:48

Yes, you do.

3:49:49

Can we go ahead and get started then?

3:49:50

Yes, ma'am.

3:49:51

Is there a motion to reconvene?

3:49:53

So moved.

3:49:55

There's a motion and a second to reconvene the city council meeting.

3:49:58

All in favor?

3:50:00

Anyone opposed?

3:50:01

The meeting is back in session at 1.59 p.m.

3:50:05

Thank you, Ms.

3:50:06

Prime.

3:50:06

I know we're on item 28, but I would like to take item 30 at this time.

3:50:11

Yes, ma'am.

3:50:11

Item 30 is presentation and discussion on a report by Forbes Masers LLP on the financial and grant audit of the City of Al Paso.

3:50:36

Good afternoon, Margarita.

3:50:40

Did you hear me well?

3:50:41

Margarita Marin, deputy CFO controller.

3:50:44

Um I think can you please bring the presentation?

3:50:47

Thank you.

3:50:48

This is a presentation of the external results of the audit.

3:50:52

We actually presented to FOAC on Thursday.

3:50:55

Um but again, right here, Margarita Marin, Rachel Ornsby presenting again.

3:51:02

The agenda for today is gonna be the year and close out presented by me, and then Rachel will step in and do the presentation on the auditor, uh, the audit result.

3:51:17

To help you understand the results of this audit, I think it's important to step back a little bit and understand the processes that we have in place and how we get there to the results that we have.

3:51:28

Umtaining no audit findings is not something that it goes easily, it's actually a lot of effort, and it's a process that lasts six months within the and during the audit.

3:51:41

So I want to take you back to say a year ago when we first finished the audio for FY24.

3:51:48

What were those steps that we do in order to get to where we are today?

3:51:53

So some of the things that we do, and this is a high level overview, right?

3:51:58

But I just wanted to provide some context for the auditor presentation in order for her to make sense why we're where we are.

3:52:08

So we start with policy review, and that's how we tighten those internal controls for the city.

3:52:16

We have several financial policies in place.

3:52:19

So we always assess for best practices, making sure that the policies really articulate with what we do in practice, and making sure that we don't leave any gaps, you know, for any opportunity for any fraud, waste or abuse.

3:52:33

We're also reviewing gas beef standards that become um that become adopted during the year that we're in, so we take trainings.

3:52:42

We are you we make sure that we do the right implementation at the right time, and we work directly with the auditors to make sure that whatever accounting standards we implement them, we're doing the right thing.

3:52:53

We're also uh taking trainings and training other departments, we're doing the month and close, making sure that those transactions that we need to be recorded in that particular month are recorded, and then bank reconciliations take place.

3:53:06

And along those uh processes, we're also doing process improvement.

3:53:12

And what this is is we really make sure that we can automate to minimize the risk of human error.

3:53:19

So we're constantly looking to see what's there that we can improve.

3:53:24

For instance, last year we did an out of um, we integrated our bank reconciliation with the system, and that was really good because it brought up so many efficiencies and then reduced the risk of any human error within the bank reconciliation process.

3:53:39

This year we're working on another process for debt, how we tracked and report debt to also minimize the human error.

3:53:47

Um we're also doing this reviews for PCAR.

3:53:50

We're also doing um desk reviews for travel, and our grants division is constantly assessing for allowable expenditures, um expenses happening within the performance period, and every time we're really looking at full compliance, not only with the bond covenants, but bone compliance with the granting agencies, bone compliance with the IRS rules, with our internal policies, with gas be standards.

3:54:21

So then around the middle of the year, we actually have a multi-department effort.

3:54:27

We get with Office of Management and Budget, and also with um purchasing department to make sure that we're preparing for the end of the year, that we're closing the purchase orders, that uh there's no more budget transfers in place, because guess what?

3:54:42

At the end of the year, all those transactions that took place in the fiscal year have to be recorded in the physical year that they happen.

3:54:50

And in the respective fund and the respective accounting stream.

3:55:00

So all these processes, while we do all these processes and day-to-day accounting, um, there's something so important underlying and underneath all of that, and it's our internal controls.

3:55:06

So our internal controls have to be really, really in place, not only through throughout the policies, but the way that the departments follow these policies and the way that they execute their operations.

3:55:20

So segregation of duties, super important internal control that we have to have in place, dual authorizations.

3:55:26

There is not a send that leaves the city without dual authorization.

3:55:32

Reconciliation, checks and balance, inventory count, um, and all of this has to happen before the end of the year.

3:55:39

Because when it comes September 1 and the auditors work in, the external auditors, they are testing all those balances that we reporting in the balance sheet and also in the net position statement, and they really want to verify that those balances exist.

3:55:53

So one of the things that they do, and just so you know, when we present the balance to them, let's say in the bank, they don't take it for granted.

3:56:02

They go and they reach out directly to the banks and they verify hey, does the city of El Paso really has this balance?

3:56:09

So they confirm with all the entities that those balances exist.

3:56:15

Some of the amounts that we report are also the result of us working with actuaries, doing these calculations for pension, OPEP, um, and making sure that we are where we need to be with these balances and according to Gasp standards.

3:56:34

So when we start the audit, we have a full agenda.

3:56:39

So we have weekly meetings with the auditors, we make sure that there's deadlines internally that we achieve for review because there is always a review process in place, and again, we get audited throughout the year by many agencies, well, including our internal audit, but also state agencies, granting agencies, IRS can come.

3:57:00

Um we're constantly being audited, so we're always prepared with what we need to present.

3:57:07

Um the first ones to do the audit is the grants division, and they do what we call the single audit, and the audit really is reviewing those grants awards and expenditures that we have during the current year and making sure that they comply with every grant requirement that we have, and also making sure that the allowable cost is good, that they uh were incurred within the performance period, so they're constantly going through that and preparing the schedule of expenditures and federal awards.

3:57:38

After they're done, then we start the financial audit, and as we start the financial audit and all these balances are being tested, we're also working on the annual comprehensive financial report.

3:57:51

So what this give us is no financial audit findings during 2025.

3:58:00

And with 2025, we completed 10 consecutive years with zero audit findings.

3:58:06

And what this is is a testament of a strong financial governance and confidence that we can provide to our stakeholders at any level that our numbers are correct, our processes are in place, and we have good internal controls.

3:58:21

So what you see here in this slide is four pillars, it's a scorecard.

3:58:27

And these four pillars are so important for a municipality like ours to really make sure that we're doing the things right.

3:58:34

So if you look at the audit opinion, we start with the strong audit opinion.

3:58:38

And that's what we received this year.

3:58:40

We have an independent audit opinion that our financial statements are presented fairly.

3:58:46

And I tell you that we do so many things to make sure that everything's that everything is right, but without the independence assurance, nothing that we do will be worth it like for the outsiders, right?

3:59:02

Because we need that independent assurance to have people to build the credibility to know that it's not only an internal report that we prepare, but somebody else is a testing that is correct.

3:59:15

So the audio opinion very strong.

3:59:19

You all can rely on those numbers to make decisions on behalf of our community, our bondholders can rely on those numbers to buy our bonds.

3:59:29

Then you go to the internal controls, and in this sense, our internal controls are strong.

3:59:35

The auditors didn't identify any material weaknesses, they didn't identify any significant deficiencies, and that means that we have good compliance levels and we have good oversight.

3:59:46

Here is where tone at the top is so important, right?

3:59:50

Our city manager, our CFO, uh DCMs, the FOAC, the internal audit, all of us working together to maintain those internal controls, that there is no overrides in those controls.

4:00:02

So very strong within the city of El Paso.

4:00:06

And then you go and you have an audio opinion that is clean, and you have a control environment that remains effective, but how does that translate into the numbers that we present?

4:00:16

Is the city of El Paso stable financially?

4:00:19

So when we look at our reserves, the liquidity and the budget discipline that we have, all of those things support the stability.

4:00:27

You heard uh this morning Robert's presentation when he was talking about the reduction in debt.

4:00:32

Debt management is a big thing because we cannot fund those capital projects without debt.

4:00:39

So that's something that we can say we're not gonna do.

4:00:42

We have to do it, but we can what we can do best is really be responsible in the management of that debt, and at all times reducing the burden in our in our constituents, right?

4:00:53

With the with the tax rate.

4:00:56

So that was that his presentation allude to that 500 million dollars reduction in debt and maintaining the tax rate at that level is not something that that is easy.

4:01:07

And then you have all that together, and now it's like how do we look out there?

4:01:12

What do they think of us, right?

4:01:14

So this supports long-term credibility.

4:01:17

You heard it through their bond ratings, the bond ratings that we have.

4:01:21

Um we have strong audit results, the market can trust us.

4:01:26

People can trust these numbers.

4:01:27

You all can trust these numbers.

4:01:34

Okay.

4:01:35

So here in the slide, this is the reports that we actually issued.

4:01:39

Um the first one is the annual comprehensive financial report, and this report gets submitted to the municipal securities rulemaking board through the electronic municipal market access.

4:01:51

This is one of the uh compliance requirements that we have.

4:01:55

So when you were asking this morning, hey, what is the level of compliance on those bonds?

4:02:00

What's the oversight?

4:02:01

This is part of the oversight.

4:02:03

The continuing disclosures, we have to submit this annually.

4:02:06

Not only that, but there's a list of continuing disclosures that we have to comply with for the life of the bond.

4:02:13

And if something happens, like let's say um we change the trustee.

4:02:19

Something as simple as that.

4:02:20

We have 10 days to report to the municipal rulemaking board and say there is a change.

4:02:26

Um, so there's continuously oversight on all this.

4:02:30

Then this year we have the new Senate Bill 1851.

4:02:34

And with this one, we were mandated to submit the ACFAR to file the ACFR with our city clerk within 180 days, which we did in order for us to be able to continue and issue a tax rate that is above the non-new revenue rate.

4:02:52

And lastly, we submitted to the government finance officer association for the 2025 certificate of achievement for excellence in financial reporting.

4:03:00

Uh, we're not many municipalities submit to the GFOA, but this is a great achievement for the city because it also attests that our financial statements are in compliance with generally accepted accounting principles in the United States.

4:03:14

Then we have the single audit gets submitted to the federal audit clearing house, and then something that we don't have to do, but we choose to do is the popular annual financial reporting.

4:03:25

That's our commitment to our community, that's transparency.

4:03:29

Because we know that not everybody understands finance, so we have to put it in simple terms that anyone can understand what we're what was happening with the finances here in the city, how we're managing the money that came in and how it was spent on behalf of the community.

4:03:46

And we're actually working on a Spanish version of this.

4:03:49

Hopefully, we'll it will get released this week.

4:03:52

So, yeah, more to come.

4:03:53

All these reports are located in the city's website, the controller's office.

4:03:59

So the bottom line.

4:04:10

Our processes have survived, changes in management, the COVID, multiple employees coming and doing those transactions, um, changes in gas beef standards, human error, and yet we're here with a clean audit opinion, we're here with a strong um governance, and we're here with another year with zero audit findings.

4:04:33

So that technically says that these processes are deeply embedded in our institutional culture.

4:04:42

So I'm gonna leave you with that thought, and I'm gonna pass it to Rachel for her audit presentation.

4:04:51

Thank you, Margarita.

4:04:52

Hi, Rachel.

4:04:53

Hi, good afternoon, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council.

4:04:56

Nice to see several of you again this afternoon.

4:05:00

As Margarita mentioned, we were here earlier last week, met with the FOAC to go over these great results.

4:05:07

And so I'm just gonna get right into it.

4:05:10

And so this afternoon we're gonna talk about the audit scope.

4:05:13

So what the city of El Paso has engaged our firm to complete for you all.

4:05:17

We'll talk about the results.

4:05:19

It's not an accounting and auditing presentation if we don't talk about GASBE, so that's the governmental accounting standards board.

4:05:26

That is the standard setting body that you have to follow as a governmental entity.

4:05:30

Margarita touched on this, but they have been very busy over the last several years issuing accounting pronouncements that your team has to go and analyze and determine the magnitude that it will impact the city.

4:05:41

So we'll talk a lot about that.

4:05:42

And then happy to round it out with any questions that you all may have.

4:05:48

Okay, so here on the screen, this is a list of all of the deliverables that our firm has provided to the city.

4:05:55

And as Margarita mentioned, it is a very uh lengthy process.

4:05:59

So the city's fiscal year end is August 31st.

4:06:02

And so we have been over the last six months actively working together to accomplish these goals.

4:06:08

So we did issue uh opinions on the city's annual comprehensive financial report.

4:06:13

So that is the financial statements for the city as a whole.

4:06:17

Uh, since the city does spend and receive a million dollars in federal and state funding on an annual basis, you are required by law to have a separate compliance audit, which is known as the single audit, in accordance with the uniform guidance and the Texas grant management standards.

4:06:33

Uh the city also has uh PFCs that they receive out at the airport, and so that also is subject to a separate audit.

4:06:40

And then as she mentioned, there are various agreed upon procedures, whether it's through the TCEQ or other things that we do for the city as well.

4:06:50

Um and then she kind of stole my thunder, but I just do want to reiterate and hit on the fact that the city did receive clean, unmodified opinions.

4:06:58

And so, as you can see here on the screen, you actually received several opinions from us.

4:07:03

So in your annual comprehensive financial report, so that is the thick 200-page book.

4:07:09

Um, and I I don't want to downplay, and I said this with the FOAC, I don't want to downplay the work that our that you all hire our firm to do, but you received three pages from us in that book.

4:07:19

And so that is our opinion.

4:07:21

And so what that means is that that thick book that's in front of you or that you've all seen, uh, your city staff actually put that all together.

4:07:29

So they compile that, and so across uh Texas, we work with several clients, and I would say only five percent of our clients actually produce and compile and put this document together.

4:07:40

So again, it is a a true testament to the city's commitment and OTC to being financial stewards and really owning their commitment to excellence and financial reporting.

4:07:50

Uh, two other couple of other opinions.

4:07:52

So we gave you a clean opinion on your internal controls over financial reporting.

4:07:57

So Margarita talked a lot about this.

4:07:59

You know, you don't just be in compliance by luck or by being in the right place at the right time.

4:08:04

It's really having strong internal controls in place to be able to receive a clean opinion.

4:08:10

And then along those same lines, the city did receive clean opinions on your compliance with your federal and state grants, as well as being in uh as well as internal controls over compliance.

4:08:22

So again, uh, this is the highest level of assurance that uh any governmental entity can achieve, and the city did achieve that for fiscal year 2025.

4:08:33

Uh and then kind of staying along those same lines with the city's federal and state funding.

4:08:38

Uh the city had six major federal and state award programs that were required to be tested during this fiscal year.

4:08:45

Uh, they're here on the screen, and I'll quickly go over these.

4:08:48

So the CDBG, so the community blocked the community development block grant program uh was required to be tested, the federal transit cluster, so the grants that Sun Metro receives, uh, the airport improvement program, highway planning and construction.

4:09:04

So those were the four federal programs that were subject to audit.

4:09:08

And then uh there were two state grants that met the threshold to be audited this year.

4:09:12

So the Motor Vehicle Crime Prevention Authority, formerly the ABTPA program, and then the uh Texas anti-gang program.

4:09:21

And then again, uh no significant deficiencies and no material weaknesses were identified uh with these grants.

4:09:28

And then one thing that I I wanted to touch on because I don't know that I covered this last year, and I think it's very, very important for everybody to hear is that the city did meet the designation to be a low-risk auditee.

4:09:41

And in fact, you have for for many years, and that is a very important distinction and in our world is being a low-risk auditee.

4:09:50

And so when you've got uh these financial statements and these reports that are published on your website, published in the federal audit clearinghouse, being a low-risk auditee is something that every entity should strive to achieve, uh, and you have done that for numerous years.

4:10:08

And then going on with some more strengths and accomplishments here.

4:10:12

And so Margarita hit on this, but the city does submit their annual comprehensive financial report to GFOA, so the government finance officers association, and the city has received this prestigious award for 27 consecutive years.

4:10:29

And so that just shows the city's longstanding commitment to financial reporting and excellence.

4:10:36

And then she also hit on the PAFER, so that's the popular annual financial report.

4:10:41

And I think that is amazing that the city is working on a Spanish version of this report.

4:10:46

And in fact, you've received this award for four consecutive years.

4:10:50

And then when you kind of think about all this together, so the city's budget award, your annual comprehensive ACK for award, the popular annual financial reward.

4:10:59

GFOA actually has a program that's called the Triple Crown.

4:11:03

And so the city is actually only one of 27 cities across the state of Texas that have been named a triple crown award winner.

4:11:11

And so again, that just again goes back to OTC and all the departments, understanding that this is a very important part of the city and showing that their commitment to being forefront and leaders in this industry.

4:11:27

And then last but not least, Margarita hit on this, but um, you know, the numbers and the interim reports that you all receive throughout the fiscal year, you know, as part of our audit, we come in, we do a lot of work, we probably spend I don't know a number in the thousands of hours working on the city's audit, and we did not identify any audit adjustments.

4:11:48

So all of the records and the data that we received did not result in us going back to city staff and saying, hey, there was an error in this number.

4:11:57

And so I think that is just again back to the strong internal controls that are in place here.

4:12:04

And then I'll quickly touch on this.

4:12:07

So with every audit, there are risks that we go into as the auditor where we design our audit approach and we have to walk through what we believe are risks to the city's financials as well as any governmental organization.

4:12:20

And so management override of controls is a presumed risk in every audit engagement.

4:12:25

And so for us, what we want to do is make sure, okay, what can we do to get comfortable with this risk?

4:12:33

And so we heavily look at the estimates that the city has and make sure that they're properly recorded.

4:12:38

We look at reports from actuaries, we perform a significant amount of journal entry testing.

4:12:44

Margarita mentioned that every entry in the city has dual signatures.

4:12:51

We can attest to that throughout our process, we review a lot of journal entries and we make sure that there's proper segregation of duties that one person is not the same person preparing an entry that is someone who's approving and posting in the system.

4:13:04

We also look as part of that for any significant or unusual entries.

4:13:08

And then something else that I think is important is that you know, we don't want to be complacent.

4:13:14

We want to make sure that we're keeping everybody on their toes, being able to provide a fresh perspective, and so every year is part of the audit, you know, OTC and the departments kind of know what we're gonna ask for, but we also incorporate an element of unpredictability in the audit to ensure that there's not something that they can anticipate so that it provides a fresh perspective on an annual basis.

4:13:37

And then I've hit on this a lot, but the the city does receive and spend a lot of grant funding.

4:13:42

It is a very important uh area of focus for the audit team, and so we do a lot of testing around grants, making sure that they're properly recorded at year end, making sure that if the city did expend funding, do we have proper revenue recorded, things of that nature?

4:14:01

And again, just making sure that if grants were there last year, did they wind down, should they be there?

4:14:07

So really just making sure the grants as a whole are complete and accurate.

4:14:13

Okay, I'm not gonna read all of this to you.

4:14:16

Um, just know that the city does have significant estimates and that as part of our process, we do look at your estimates, and again, it goes with looking at actual reports, looking at historical data, and making sure that things are complete and accurate with respect to estimates.

4:14:36

And then again, along those same lines, every set of significant estimates contains probably 10 plus pages of additional detail and notes in the city's annual comprehensive financial report.

4:14:47

So and I guess before I move on to that, in the annual comprehensive financial report, and I failed to mention mention this at FOAC, and I want to mention it now, is that the management's discussion and analysis.

4:15:00

So that is about 10 to 15 pages in the 200 plus page book.

4:15:02

It is a great area to go for anybody that wants to learn more about what was going on in the city during fiscal year 25.

4:15:10

It talks a lot about significant fluctuations year over year, and it's just a really good high-level snapshot and very well written by city staff.

4:15:20

And then I mentioned it's not an accounting and auditing presentation if we don't talk about governmental accounting standards boards, so the GASBY.

4:17:45

We've heard there's so many uh third parties that rely on your financial statements.

4:17:50

City staff do a great job with this.

4:17:52

Cybersecurity, you know, I know you all have training that you have to go through on an annual basis.

4:17:57

So this is your reminder, you know, to get that done and just continue to prioritize that.

4:18:03

Um so before I kind of answer any questions that anybody has, I do just want to say that this is a year-round process.

4:18:12

You know, we we're done with the audit, and we're already about to start planning for next year's audit.

4:18:16

And I do, you know, I've talked a lot about OTC, and I can't say enough great things, but it truly is a citywide effort.

4:18:23

Every department has a role to play in this, and so you know, we received full cooperation from city staff, and that allows us to be able to meet these deadlines and be able to be in compliance with Senate Bill 1851 and all of the other uh regulatory agencies that rely on the city's financials.

4:18:41

So with that, and I hope Margarita comes back up because she may have to answer some questions.

4:18:46

We're both happy to answer any questions that anyone has at this time.

4:18:51

Thank you, Rachel, and thank you, Margarita.

4:18:54

Uh Representative Nino.

4:18:56

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, and thank you, Rachel, Margarita, Ms.

4:18:59

Mag and Robert Crutinez for all of the great work that has to get into account into making this reality.

4:19:05

I think what's key here is you know for the public to understand that this is an external audit.

4:19:08

This is not an internal audit, right?

4:19:10

And um, you kind of touch into how you know the law states that we are required to do such an audit, a single audit when we receive over a million dollars in grants from the state and the federal government.

4:19:23

Um Margarita last uh at the FOAC, you mentioned that staff reviews over 180 different funding strings that are tracked by the office of the comptroller, and that no transaction within the city is not ever reviewed by a minimum of two individuals.

4:19:42

Can you touch a little bit about that?

4:19:44

I think that that that's key to you know celebrating that this is a big deal to be a low risk audit.

4:19:50

I know that was uh quote that Rachel shared last week, and I think that we need to celebrate that even further.

4:19:57

Absolutely.

4:20:00

So I know everybody is very familiar with the general fund and the operating funds of the enterprises when it comes to budget season, but we actually do have about 180 different funds between enterprise funds that are non-operating, to special revenue funds where we book the grants, capital project funds where we have to track separately the proceeds from the bonds, and then we also are custodians of other entities because along coordinating this audit, we do have to coordinate with component units.

4:20:27

The pension office, the MPO, CRMA, the water utilities, all of those uh entities flow into our financial statement.

4:20:37

So when we look at each of these funds, different accounting rules apply to them.

4:20:43

And we have to make sure that we are following the correct basis of accounting.

4:20:47

If it's accrual basis or modify accrual basis, that there is a source document that can back up every single number that you're gonna see in that balance sheet in the financial statement.

4:20:58

So yes, to your point, it is um very hard work that we put in to review these numbers, these balances annually, actually monthly.

4:21:07

Work papers are being prepared quarterly for financial statements, but monthly everybody's checking on on these numbers.

4:21:13

Yeah, and I'm very grateful for your staff and everyone that takes part of this in ensuring that you know uh this is being fiscally responsible and ensuring that we protect the taxpayer overall.

4:21:24

Um it's a reflection of our strong governance, disciplined financial management, and continued focus for fiscal responsibility.

4:21:30

In the state of Texas, there's over a thousand two hundred municipalities, right?

4:21:34

And to be one of the twenty seven that have received a triple crown award is again a big deal.

4:21:42

Um Margarita, I know that there's been a couple of recent media statements about you know uh when it comes to financial reporting.

4:21:53

Um can you share where members of the public can have access to all of these internal external reports, audit findings, and everything that's required for us to file and also publish for the public to review.

4:22:08

Yes.

4:22:08

So Office of the Controller publishes the AC for the annual comprehensive financial report, the PAFER, the single audit, not only for this current year, but for the prior years within those reports, specifically within the ACFER, you'll see the audio opinion, which is what the external auditor assurance that the numbers are in compliance with generally accepted accounting standards.

4:22:33

Also, for investors, they do have access through the electronic municipal market access.

4:22:39

All ACFs, all bond issuance are in that platform, and everybody is public access, it's free to the public.

4:22:46

So yeah, thank you for that.

4:22:47

I think it's key and important to share that.

4:22:49

I know you shared it to your presentation, but I just wanted to share that one more time.

4:22:53

And I'm very grateful that you've made it a gold standard for the city for the last 10 years to really you know have this excellence, not just for the last 10 years, but it's also it goes back to the 27 years of really having these you know excellent uh audit findings.

4:23:07

So thank you for all your hard work.

4:23:09

Rachel, thank you for joining us again.

4:23:10

And I have no further questions.

4:23:12

Thank you.

4:23:14

Representative Canales.

4:23:18

Yeah, thank you both.

4:23:19

I already made a lot of my comments uh at the FOAC meeting last week, but what was I'll still jokes from myself.

4:23:27

Another triple crown.

4:23:29

It feels like it's getting routine at this point.

4:23:32

Um, we're very grateful for um the work that you do for us uh and also the incredible work of uh the Office of the Controller and everybody else in the city who has to work on this audit.

4:23:47

Like you said, it was uh probably thousands of work hours and probably many several thousand more work hours on the city side.

4:23:57

So thank you to everybody in all of the departments in all of the component units as well uh who put in the time to uh conduct the audit to be audited.

4:24:10

Both of them take work.

4:24:11

Um so thank you.

4:24:16

Representative Rocha.

4:24:18

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

4:24:19

Margarita Rachel, thank you all so much.

4:24:22

You know, you touched on it a little bit, and just like Rep Canalis, I I did share a lot of my comments uh last week at the FOAC meeting, but it it bears to repeat itself.

4:24:32

Congratulations.

4:24:34

So for members of the public um that may not have that financial, a triple crown would be the equivalent of a Super Bowl.

4:24:46

I I don't know, I'm just making sure I understand.

4:24:49

I mean, it is it is it is really that big of a deal.

4:24:54

Correct?

4:24:55

Okay.

4:25:00

So I just want to make sure that I that you know we we all understand how exclusive this group is, right?

4:25:04

And and that there are those financial guidelines that are in place.

4:25:12

And Margarita, that your office goes above and beyond what the minimal requirements are to be able to make this external audit just move that much smoother throughout the process.

4:25:25

And like you mentioned, Rachel, it's a six-month audit.

4:25:29

So here we are, right on the end of you know, producing the the last fiscal year, and you're already getting into the next audit.

4:25:39

So you know, I just I just bear to mention that again because it is quite a feat to be able to sit here and say uh triple crown winner yet again.

4:25:50

And how many years is that?

4:25:52

The triple crown came about four years ago when we submitted the PAFR for review because we always not always, but for the past 30 years, we have the budget book, and for the past 27 years, we have the AC for adding the PAFER is what it triggered the triple crown for the city.

4:26:09

It's pretty amazing.

4:26:10

So for the last 27 years, if you could repeat that again, Margaret.

4:26:13

So the last 27 years for the ACFR, 30 years for the budget book, and for years for the PAFER.

4:26:19

Thank you.

4:26:20

I I think that that just bears a lot of repetition and a lot of congratulations to you and your team and to Rachel.

4:26:27

Thank you.

4:26:28

Um it just we're we're very proud of the work that you all have done.

4:26:32

Thank you.

4:26:33

Thank you.

4:26:40

Thank you, Margarita, and thank you, Rachel, for for all the work that you've done for the city of El Paso.

4:26:45

Um, it really takes a team, and so many times uh, you know, Representative Canales said it he's he's getting kind of used to hearing this every year.

4:26:55

So, but you know, we really shouldn't take things for granted because sometimes we just think things are the way they are because it's easy to be that way, but we need to recognize that year after year, it's it's something that's earned and it's merited by an entire team behind this.

4:27:12

Um, I want to point out to make sure people know that this year we also hired a director for risk management, which is only going to add towards being more financial uh transparent and fiscally responsible to our community.

4:27:26

We also have a new auditor that's going to join a wonderful team that's already in place here at the city.

4:27:33

So it really just takes a lot of different departments, a lot of different people to make this happen year after year.

4:27:39

And I just want to make sure that we're not taking it for granted that we hear you, we see you, and that we know that there's a lot of work that goes behind this.

4:27:47

You know, I I wasn't really aware of all of these awards and what they meant.

4:27:52

So I I mean I must confess that I went online to to look them up to see exactly what they're about, and and they're a very big deal.

4:28:00

It's a very big deal.

4:28:01

So let's make sure that we talk about this in a positive way, and that we um that we we tell people we're in this position because of the people that work in the city and because we care deeply about being fiscally responsible and um making sure that we're making the best use of our taxpayer dollars.

4:28:21

So thank you to all of you to Robert this morning and to everyone else involved with this.

4:28:26

We appreciate it.

4:28:27

Thank you.

4:28:32

Ms.

4:28:32

Prime, we I don't believe we have further discussion.

4:28:36

No, and we don't have a vote.

4:28:38

Uh there's no action on this item.

4:28:41

No action on this item.

4:28:42

Thank you.

4:28:42

Thank you.

4:28:43

Thank you.

4:28:45

If we we may return to item 28.

4:28:53

Yes, please.

4:28:54

Thank you.

4:28:54

Item 28 is discussion and action to approve a resolution that the city council declares the expenditure of district two discretionary funds in an amount not to exceed $2,500 for costs related to the holding of the annual pride event in the City Hall parking lot along with destination El Paso and El Paso Sun City Pride on June 27, 2026.

4:29:16

And this was posted by Representative Acevedo.

4:29:20

Move to approve.

4:29:21

Second I don't believe we have any discussion on this item.

4:29:31

Okay.

4:29:32

So um Ms.

4:29:32

Prime, we have a motion and a second.

4:29:34

Could you please call for the vote?

4:29:35

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Acevedo, seconded by Representative Gonales to approve the resolution on item 28 on that motion, call for the vote.

4:30:00

And the voting session.

4:30:01

And that motion passes unanimously.

4:30:05

Mayor Prote, may we take the item on the addition to the agenda that is also along the same lines?

4:30:11

Yes, Ms.

4:30:11

French.

4:30:12

Thank you.

4:30:12

And this is on the addition to the agenda.

4:30:15

And this is discussion and action on a resolution authorizing the expenditure of district seven discretionary funds in an amount not to exceed $1,000 for cost related to the annual Día de los Niños Dia de los Libros event held on Saturday, April 25th, 2026 at Pablo Real Park, which serves a municipal purpose of fostering community and encouraging literacy within the city of El Paso's children population.

4:30:39

And this is representative Limon's item.

4:30:45

Ms.

4:30:46

Prime, we have a motion and a second and no discussion on this item.

4:30:49

Please call for the vote.

4:30:50

Yes, thank you.

4:30:50

The motion was made by Representative Limont, seconded by alternate mayor pro tempiero, and this is to approve the resolution on the addition to the agenda on that motion.

4:30:59

Call for the vote.

4:31:09

And the voting session.

4:31:10

And that motion passes unanimously.

4:31:16

Okay, Miss Pran, I think we're on item 29.

4:31:18

Yes, ma'am.

4:31:19

Item 29 is presentation and discussion by the Capital Improvement Department on the Capital Improvement Plan, CIP mid-year update for active programmed and completed capital projects for FY2026 to include quality of life, public safety, and community progress bonds, and capital programs.

4:31:42

Thank you.

4:31:43

Hello, Avet.

4:31:44

Good afternoon, Mayor Pro Tem and Council, Ivette Hernandez with the city manager's office.

4:31:50

So you've heard about all the finances with Robert and Margarita and the good work that they've done.

4:31:56

This presentation will really show the phases of each of the projects and how they're related to each of the funding categories.

4:32:03

Future presentation, I do want to bring a presentation to FOAC and really talk about the drawdown of the remaining projects that we have identified with each of the funding sources.

4:32:15

So this will be the overview and really to bring home to uh Robert's point of how we're working together and we're obligating debt as needed to pay for the projects.

4:32:27

Um this I will go over community progress while we're asking for that, why you approved the 71 million.

4:32:37

Um going over this is for mid-year, so um up to April of um sorry, up to February of fiscal year 2026, the mid-year results, uh looking at some of the accomplishments, and as I made mentioned, going over the voter approved quality of life, public safety bond, community progress bond, and then highlight some of the projects remaining within the uh capital plans, which are the certificates of obligation.

4:33:18

And so looking at the encumbrances, um we are on track to encumber a hundred million.

4:33:29

So the encumbrances are the purchase orders that CID puts forth for consultants, contractors, it's the money that we earmark for each of the projects.

4:33:39

Um this is a good indicator once you've earmarked uh the monies that they will be spent on the projects for our expenditures um 47 million up to February.

4:33:54

Um again, this is online.

4:33:56

We generally our benchmark like to spend a hundred million um in our projects, and that really is the investment into our community.

4:34:05

So from fiscal year 18, we've spent over 970 million in projects.

4:34:12

So looking at what we've spent for this mid-year, almost about 50 million.

4:34:17

If you take about half of that, it's our labor costs.

4:34:20

So we have about 24 million in labor costs.

4:34:23

And what that means is the jobs that are created by the construction projects.

4:34:29

So the superintendents, their laborers, their field workers, their electricians out on these projects.

4:34:34

That is how we calculate uh the labor costs and the monies here in El Paso.

4:34:40

Um so for fiscal year of 2026, 2,551 jobs, um over 57,000 from September 21st to present day.

4:34:52

And here's a look at direct and induced of 78 million.

4:34:56

Looking at the accomplishments, uh really focusing on the public safety bond.

4:35:02

We will have a ribbon cutting here soon for the central fire station.

4:35:07

With all of the fire stations that have been renovated, we've completed over 40%.

4:35:13

I promise you that number would be higher, but we need to make sure that we're working with chief killings that we don't impact our response times.

4:35:20

Council just approved the GMP for the public uh safety complex.

4:35:26

We start design and we're looking to start all the earthwork in early 2027.

4:35:33

Um the joint police and fire headquarters, that is under a CMAR contract, and they've already completed 30% design, and they will also be starting to break ground and move Earth in early 2027.

4:35:48

Um abilities, you guys just approved the testing for the Geotech Lab.

4:35:53

Really excited.

4:35:53

We're gonna start construction here winter of this year.

4:35:56

Uh that's community progress bond.

4:35:59

And in addition, we've moved up all of the reconstruction and resurfacing projects that were identified within the community progress bond.

4:36:07

And so Pebble Hills will be finished this winter.

4:36:11

Uh Vista del Sol phase one will be finished this summer.

4:36:15

And so that is also to go into why the 71 million.

4:36:20

Uh Robert shared that there's about 18 million left.

4:36:23

You're gonna see an influx of monies that we're spending as the reconstruction projects are going to be taking place.

4:36:30

So one of the things that you see when a bond is rolled out, there's an ebb and flow.

4:36:34

The first part is design, which is usually only about a small percentage of the total project cost.

4:36:40

And once those come to fruition and procurement and construction, that's where you see the uptick in how we're spending down our money.

4:36:48

Um we've completed 14 projects this fiscal year to include canopies at Armijo, Carlos Bombach, also uh one of the NIP projects, East Cave, uh finished a couple of traffic signals, and also uh Sun Metro Pathways and Charging Stations.

4:37:08

From fiscal year 15, you could see we've completed 625 projects.

4:37:15

IT, could you please play the mid-year video?

4:37:39

So, as Robert says he gets to talk about the monies, I get the fun stuff of pictures and videos.

4:37:44

So it will be good once once we get it uploaded.

4:38:20

Um we could send that to council at a later time.

4:38:28

Let's go just go ahead and go on.

4:38:29

It's it's a great video, so we'll make sure to share that uh with mayor and council.

4:38:33

My apologies.

4:38:37

This next slide that they're bringing up is a snapshot of all the funds.

4:38:44

And so, what we really want to show here is that as uh Robert had made mention in bond issuance obligating the debt, we only have uh the public safety bond and community progress bond left to obligate that debt.

4:39:00

And so that's where the coordination becomes of what is their schedule, what is our drawdown of those monies and how we obligate that in a timely manner, as he was making mention for the call dates.

4:39:11

Next slide.

4:39:16

So here I want to go into at a very general level of the phases, project phases.

4:39:21

So the quality of life bond, we have completed uh 235 projects with 16 million remaining.

4:39:29

Next slide.

4:39:31

And so those projects are the central uh flat fields that uh was recently introduced to being constructed at Modesto Gomez.

4:39:40

We're finishing out some of the uh zoo projects, the endangered species, South American Pavilion, and then projects in bidding.

4:39:48

We're working on an agreement with El Paso Electric for Montana I-10, and uh we're also going to be replacing the roof from the Asia Forest uh skylight.

4:40:00

This was an AZA concern, and so we added that to uh the quality of life.

4:40:05

Uh finishing off this spring and summer are the Bear Bridge Trailhead, uh, the mountain to river trail system and also the Komodo Dragon.

4:40:13

Next slide.

4:40:15

Public safety bond, as I made mention, we've completed 40% of the fire station renovations, so that's 17 uh projects complete, and we've kicked off 16 projects in design.

4:40:27

Next slide.

4:40:29

And so you'll see here um the larger projects that we have are the public safety complex, over 200 million currently designing five fire stations, and we're looking to start construction on our regional command centers with the Northeast being the first one.

4:40:49

Next slide.

4:40:51

We have three projects in bidding.

4:40:54

As I made mention, once we finish construction, we bring um another set into bidding and we start releasing others for design.

4:41:03

Um so we will be starting these three projects here by summer of this year.

4:41:09

And then projects that are scheduled to be completed summer of this year, most notably is the brand new logistics station, central fire station here off of Campbell, and then we have four um fire stations within the various districts.

4:41:23

Next slide.

4:41:26

Community progress bond.

4:41:28

Uh we've completed 10 projects.

4:41:31

Um we have 10 in pre-design and 21 in design.

4:41:36

So really excited of getting those out of design into bidding and starting construction.

4:41:40

Next slide.

4:41:42

So pre-design, um, these are the the various stages that we made mention on the NIPs.

4:41:49

We have quick builds, those are the ones that can be completed with selecting um the amenities through EP Market or BIBoard.

4:41:57

Um, and then the projects that we have in design require uh consultants to work on those scopes of work.

4:42:05

The projects in design, the larger ones are the extensions.

4:42:09

We have Airway, Montwood, and Wrestler, Montwood and Rustler breaking ground later this year.

4:42:15

Next slide.

4:42:17

And then projects in bidding.

4:42:19

Um, the majority of these are the NIP phase six looking to have start uh quick starts and finish on these projects working through by board and also EP market.

4:42:33

Next slide.

4:42:36

Um additionally, we have the Coronado Hills, I believe that just currently uh was completed.

4:42:44

Uh we've finished some of the traffic signals.

4:42:47

These are the second round of signals that was in proposition B of community progress.

4:42:55

Um, and then we will finish, as I made mentioned, phase one Vista del Sol.

4:42:59

That's an $8 million project here this summer.

4:43:02

Next slide.

4:43:04

And then resurfacing.

4:43:06

Um we will come back to council with a comprehensive overview of just uh streets and resurfacing, but this is a significant portion of the community progress bond, about 75% of that 272 million is tied into resurfacing.

4:43:23

So I want to give a quick overview.

4:43:25

Next slide.

4:43:27

So looking at fiscal year 2023, um, we have a currently a catch-up contract, so that's going to be managed by CID while streets and maintenance continues on the new two-year rollouts that was just approved by City Council.

4:43:44

Um we're currently working on Pratt, Lombardy, and we've uh finished 12 projects residential projects for the fiscal year 23.

4:43:54

Next slide.

4:43:56

Um, for fiscal year 24, we have uh 27 programmed.

4:44:00

And so what program means in in this context is the approved streets that council has voted on.

4:44:07

So every two years, streets of maintenance will bring a listing of of streets within each of your districts.

4:44:13

Once they're approved, they then are classified as programmed.

4:44:16

And we currently have three projects that are active, and we've completed uh 14 projects with uh 1.5 million in expenditures.

4:44:25

Next slide.

4:44:27

For fiscal year 25, we have 16 programs, we've completed five.

4:44:32

Um we've spent one million of the 3.5 and uh looking to complete these years shortly.

4:44:38

Um we're looking at uh end of this year's summer.

4:44:42

Next slide.

4:44:45

Um for fiscal year 26 that has just uh recently been approved, are the 17 uh programmed residential and also 16 residential.

4:45:00

So we've received the schedules from the contractors and so we are looking to schedule those out and turn turn those around hopefully before we come out with our our next rollout.

4:45:10

As uh Randy Garcia, director of streets and maintenance had has made mention before to council this year.

4:45:15

We have three active contracts.

4:45:17

We've never had so many active contracts uh working uh consecutively on all our resurfacing.

4:45:23

So we're really looking to uh get through this round um sooner than we have since fiscal year 23.

4:45:30

And I believe that uh now the capital plans.

4:45:34

These are the certificates of obligation which the council has has asked about.

4:45:38

Um so in 2017, uh 71 million was identified.

4:45:43

We've completed uh 62.

4:45:45

There are 10 in construction, and we have a few in design and bidding.

4:45:49

Next slide.

4:45:52

Um so projects in design uh working with Karina and her group on the co-in site readiness.

4:45:58

This is money identified for the uh parking lot um project bidding.

4:46:03

This will be an item here later in council is the approval of Cedar Grove.

4:46:08

This is in partnership with El Paso Water and some of the poor soil conditions we have out in that subdivision, and we currently have uh 10 projects in construction.

4:46:19

Um some of the delays for these 2017 COs have been um the scheduling and working with Text Dot and uh federal highway administration and getting those advanced funding agreements.

4:46:31

Uh Donaffin was a lengthy uh delay in working with BNSF, um, but we are scheduled to finish these um at the end of this year.

4:46:42

Next slide.

4:46:43

2018, uh 69 million was identified.

4:46:47

We've completed uh 29 projects with remainder of five million for this uh funding source.

4:46:54

Next slide.

4:46:57

Um these are uh federally funded projects.

4:47:01

Um so when I take this to FOAC, you will see the the difference and how the SIB loans and what council has approved in how we are uh paying for these projects and providing that match.

4:47:14

Really leveraging uh 20% of the city um and getting 80% federal funding.

4:47:20

Next slide.

4:47:22

2019, we completed uh 16 projects.

4:47:25

Um we have six in design.

4:47:27

Next slide.

4:47:30

These are the Sun City Lights, uh, one still in design, projects in um bidding, and also um the traffic management center.

4:47:40

This was a this is a five-phase project, um very significant project that will help upgrade our signalization, move forward towards automation, more of a smart look at how we manage our traffic, and then the last one that was identified in the CO, really excited to finish out the last of the lighting landscape and median improvements out on the west side.

4:48:05

Next slide.

4:48:07

2020, we've completed uh 38 projects and we have one remaining within this funding source.

4:48:13

Next slide.

4:48:15

And this is the last of the Sun City lights that we will be finishing this summer.

4:48:21

I believe that completes my presentation.

4:48:28

Thank you, Ivette.

4:48:29

Thank you.

4:48:31

Okay.

4:48:32

Uh Representative Trejo.

4:48:37

Thank you, Mary Proteve.

4:48:39

I have a quick question on the on the bond.

4:48:42

So we have one from 2012, another one from 2017.

4:48:46

Are these 10-year bonds or and how how is that still going on?

4:48:51

Correct.

4:48:52

So we have um the voter approved 2012 quality of life.

4:48:57

We have the 2019 uh for public safety, and we have the 2022 of community progress.

4:49:04

They are 10-year bonds.

4:49:05

If you'll remember when I asked for the GMP for the public safety bond, we have that programmed out until 2029.

4:49:12

And so the intent is to finish that and also uh working with streets and maintenance on finishing 2022 in 10 years.

4:49:21

Uh and the 2017.

4:49:25

Oh, CFO Cortina has just let me know that was the year that the voters approve, but not necessarily when the bonds were issued.

4:49:31

Oh, okay.

4:49:31

When were the bonds issued?

4:49:34

For the 2012?

4:49:36

It's for which bonds?

4:49:38

For the 2012 quality.

4:49:40

Multiple years.

4:49:41

So we we did issuances started in 2013, 2016.

4:49:45

And I'd have to get you the breakdown, but we did we've done multiple issuances for the quality of light bonds.

4:49:50

So the the oldest is I think the last one we did was in 2023.

4:49:56

But I can get you the breakdown of all these.

4:50:00

Thank you, Robert.

4:50:03

Representative Acevedo.

4:50:06

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

4:50:08

Thanks for this.

4:50:09

This is really comforta comprehensive, like always.

4:50:12

I had a few questions, particularly on slide 17 on the projects that are happening at the zoo.

4:50:23

I realized uh the last item on today's agenda, item number 34 is going to um get into some additions for the zoo on four different projects.

4:50:36

But I was looking at those amounts, and they're a little different than the amounts that you included in this slide.

4:50:42

So I kind of wanted to understand what happened there.

4:50:44

Because even without the additional funding that's requested today in item 34, they're still a little off.

4:50:50

Yes, sir.

4:50:51

So what we are asking for in item 34 is the use of investment interest.

4:50:57

So once we have the bonds, they do accrue interest.

4:51:00

We wanted to make sure that the original list that was identified in 2012, that was completed first.

4:51:06

And with this investment interest, we are adding new projects that fall within the umbrella and the restrictions of your bond issuance.

4:51:14

So that's why the numbers um are larger, because we have investment interest.

4:51:19

Okay.

4:51:20

And that's also sorry, if I can also add um that's why you also see asterisks uh within each of the totals, because there have been budget transfers all approved by council, and also funding sources such as federal highway um administration.

4:51:37

Okay.

4:51:38

Just um phase two on the South American Pavilion Improvements on the the last presentation for today, and I'm not trying to get ahead of it.

4:51:48

It says that we have 2.1 million, and here it says 1.6 million.

4:51:53

Correct.

4:51:53

So the 1.6 was originally identified within the quality of life bond ordinance, and this 2.1 is now the investment interest.

4:52:04

So when you're accounting for those two, that's how you add that.

4:52:07

Okay, just because on the last um item of the day, it says the current is 2.1.

4:52:13

We're adding we're uh you're asking uh 200, and then it'll be a total 2.3.

4:52:18

And then this is 1.6, so that's where it kind of threw me off and I was a little confused.

4:52:22

Let me double check.

4:52:23

Yeah.

4:52:23

One of the things that we've seen historically since we started this, there is when we ask council to approve a construction contract, we talk about project construction.

4:52:34

Then when we talk about the entire project, we talk about the project total.

4:52:39

So there are uh nuances in since the bulk of it is construction cost.

4:52:44

Um a lot of times what gets advertised is the construction costs.

4:52:48

So I'll make that distinction if we were talking about project budget versus construction budget.

4:52:54

Okay.

4:52:54

That that that'll make it a little bit more clear.

4:52:56

I I just was concerned that even with the action that hopefully the council approves later today, that this might still be a little bit different on this, so I wanted to double check.

4:53:06

Because for example, on the Asia Force Skylight, it's 691 and it matches 691 on the on the last item.

4:53:14

So that's where I got a little confused.

4:53:16

And then I noticed on slide 28.

4:53:21

Um Barcelona is on hold, and I know this has been a very difficult project, so I kind of wanted to understand what this means when we're seeing it on hold.

4:53:34

Right.

4:53:35

So there are other projects in here that are on hold, and it's because we are waiting for uh El Paso water.

4:53:41

So there's some utility work that we're coordinating as Mayor Pro Tem understands like Love Road has had that whole designation because we've been coordinating with the utilities.

4:53:50

So it's uh because that's been for a while, so that continues to be an issue, and we're waiting on El Paso Water so we could get a completion.

4:53:58

Okay.

4:53:58

I appreciate it.

4:53:59

Thank you.

4:54:00

Thank you.

4:54:02

Representative Rocha.

4:54:04

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

4:54:05

Thank you, Yvette, for for the uh for the presentation.

4:54:09

It really helps to be able to see it on one document versus trying to reach out to you and get them so separately.

4:54:16

So thank you for bearing with me.

4:54:17

Uh the one question I have is that is the capital improvements dashboard updated with this?

4:54:22

Would you happen to know?

4:54:24

Yes.

4:54:27

The Monday board fees into this.

4:54:29

Um the main reason for using Monday.com is that it is instantaneous.

4:54:36

So uh staff is required to provide updates the 15th of each month.

4:54:40

Okay.

4:54:41

Um we still need to control them into getting that good data in so we could report out to council.

4:54:47

Um but yes, these two documents uh should should uh match up, match up.

4:54:53

So what I'm understanding is by the 15th of every month, end of business, let's say.

4:55:03

Then it it should typically be updated by the 16th of that morning.

4:55:08

Yes.

4:55:08

Is that correct?

4:55:09

Okay, so we'll just make sure that we're going to be able to do that.

4:55:10

We're working on because I've heard that from council.

4:55:13

Yeah, where we really do want to get better is to make it consistent.

4:55:17

So we have a big reminder for the PMs, you know, fill in every every month, but there's also other columns.

4:55:24

So at times maybe they update two of the three.

4:55:26

We need to get them to hit all cylinders and update all three of them.

4:55:29

Yeah, and we'll continue to reach out on Monday.

4:55:32

I just wanted, you know, for ease of not having to bombard you with those with those requests to say, can we just go to the dashboard and be able to answer those constituent requests?

4:55:42

Yes.

4:55:43

Okay, continually work on that to appreciate up to date because I know constituents want to know where the pro the progress and providing you the information helps us use.

4:55:52

Absolutely, especially because they're all bond related or right uh money that that goes in and is required.

4:55:58

So thank you, Yvette.

4:55:59

I appreciate it.

4:56:01

Representative Nino.

4:56:03

Thank you, Mayor Botem, and also thank you, Yvette, for all your work to you and the entire team.

4:56:08

Um I was happy to hear that you're working on another presentation to bring back to FOAC to kind of uh identify the different projects that are still in the queue for the different bonds.

4:56:17

Um I know it's something that I had asked Ms.

4:56:19

uh Mac, so very grateful for you working on that and looking forward to it.

4:56:24

I just wanted to make that comment.

4:56:25

One thing that you'll see, just give you guys a little preview, is um so not on this slide, but if you notice on the construction, it totals up the the entire sum of each of the projects, it doesn't say what's remaining.

4:56:38

So FOAC will show on the project level how much has been sent and how much is remaining.

4:56:44

And this focused more on phases.

4:56:46

If I may ask, whenever that presentation comes forward, maybe we could also uh identify the projects that were already completed within those bonds and kind of naming the project, I think that would also be helpful for us to understand what expenditures were already done for each individual project.

4:57:02

I think it will help us better understand of where those expenditures would went.

4:57:06

Okay, Ms.

4:57:06

Mack, I might need a little bit more than one month to work on that.

4:57:09

Um if you if you look just at quality of life alone, that's 234 projects that have been completed, right?

4:57:17

But I I understand you want to see the the full uh gambit of the money spent before.

4:57:23

Yeah, I think it will be helpful.

4:57:25

And we may have to do it in two.

4:57:26

So what I asked um Avet to do is I heard from a few of you about the dollars that we had deprogrammed and being very clear about what that looks like.

4:57:35

And so our point for that presentation was one, give you the big picture, but it give you an opportunity to have a complement to this.

4:57:43

It shows you mainly the dollars.

4:57:45

Okay, where the dollars went, whether if we move something, if we've added something to it, and we were actually thinking about doing that quarterly, so maybe as a FOAC you can help me to understand each one of those financial presentations might be slightly different.

4:57:59

Okay, just give um the public more information about where the dollars are going and how we're managing those.

4:58:04

Okay, no, yeah, I'll go basically.

4:58:08

I will present next week.

4:58:11

Grave for all your work, I'm sorry.

4:58:17

Thank you, Ivet.

4:58:18

Uh I also have just a couple of questions.

4:58:20

The first one is on slide four.

4:58:24

Um I'll come back to you, representative.

4:58:26

I didn't see your you light up there.

4:58:29

But so it says amount contracted and it says for fiscal year 2026, and the amount is less than the previous years you have there.

4:58:38

So could you kind of just describe what that means?

4:58:40

Yes, this is from September to February.

4:58:43

So if you notice the other uh column is graded out, um once we get to the end of fiscal year, we should be benchmarking at that 100 million.

4:58:53

At the 100 million.

4:58:54

Okay, I think that's good to point out.

4:58:56

When you talk about the remaining balances for the COs, is that um already identified on on what it's gonna be spent or is or do we have any idea what what's gonna come of that money?

4:59:08

For the COs, yes, they they are all earmarked and they're all they're all um identified to each project.

4:59:15

Okay.

4:59:15

And this is just a general question.

4:59:17

And I think the conversation today has been so productive because we've we've heard from the CFO, we've heard uh about uh from Margaret Margarita regarding the audit um findings.

4:59:27

And it's it's like putting together a puzzle, right, with different pieces to it.

4:59:33

So many times constituents say, you know, why does it take so long to get projects done, right?

4:59:39

And we've already experienced it on council where we've had to deprogram some things because we just didn't have the funding to complete those projects where we previously thought we might have.

4:59:49

Um and and then we have to go back to the community and say, well, we won't be able to do this, but we are doing that.

4:59:54

And sometimes those conversations can be difficult.

5:00:00

So kind of just walk us through how you decide to to put a project forward or hold off on it for whatever reason.

5:00:08

Um I know I asked Robert this earlier from a financial standpoint, and then if you could just kind of tell us from capital improvements point of view, how that process works.

5:00:17

And I think from a financial standpoint as well, is that um one of the questions was asked earlier or he clarified that when we have a 413 million dollar bond for like uh public safety, not all of it is issued, right?

5:00:32

So also waiting and and making sure that we have that cash in that capacity so that we could also do the project.

5:00:39

So from a financial standpoint, we work with him to make sure we keep those cents down.

5:00:44

We're not back up at the 40 cents that we had originally thought, and we're strategic about how we obligate the debt, right?

5:00:50

So that's the first thing.

5:00:51

Um the next thing is I think part of it, and I'm really happy I can't think of the adjective, because I do want to say grateful that city council did identify the use and the approval of SIB loans.

5:01:06

One of the things that has been difficult in the past for the grant federal program is that we didn't have an identified funding source to um actually have the match for those projects.

5:01:18

And so that was very difficult.

5:01:19

And you'll see now some of the federal projects because we wait on approvals from Text Dot from uh from the Federal Highway Association, some of those COs are tied to federal projects.

5:01:31

So one of the things in having that funding source will allow us to schedule projects um more in line with the federal government and how they're approving those funding sources.

5:01:42

Um so those are the two kind of like on on um uh the funding source on the programming is just really making sure that one with public safety that we're working with both Chief Pacius and Chief Killings, and we're identifying when the projects can be designed.

5:01:59

I think for public safety that has been the biggest delay is that we could not get into all the regional command centers, because then where would you staff, you know?

5:02:08

Um so being strategic with the uses uh with community progress.

5:02:12

Um we noticed that it did take um our local contractors, they're not used to having these types of contracts, so it did take a ramping up from them understanding great, this is how many streets we can do.

5:02:26

We even added to a contract, so you'll see those numbers begin to ramp up.

5:02:31

Because there was a bit of a delay and a learning curve, I moved forward all the reconstruction projects.

5:02:36

I had those starting out in later years, but I had capacity on the 46 million, and so we moved all of those up.

5:02:43

So there's different strategies that we're doing to ensure that we have a timely finish on these two bonds.

5:02:49

Yes, and I think what I heard you say is it also doesn't depend solely on us.

5:02:53

There are other people like Text Dot, Al Paso Water, you mentioned earlier, and others that influence the decisions on how we move projects forward.

5:03:02

Yes, one of the things I I will be very transparent at BOAC we had reported that the reconstruction of Honda Pass was going to start this summer.

5:03:10

We had worked with Opasa Water, that's where we were going, and they've had issues on some of their design and their financial capacities, so that has been pushed out.

5:03:20

So yeah, it has been uh having that collaborative spirit with other partners and also our user groups.

5:03:27

And I think it's good to say that neither us on council nor nor you uh nor anyone really controls every part of the decision.

5:03:36

Correct.

5:03:36

But as much as we can control our our motto is to get out good quality projects to our community.

5:03:42

Sure.

5:03:42

Yes, and and we thank you for that.

5:03:44

Thank you, Evet.

5:03:45

Thank you.

5:03:45

Representative Trejo.

5:03:49

Thank you.

5:03:50

I I did have one more question in regards to what you're bringing to FOEC.

5:03:54

You know, it would be great, Ms.

5:03:55

Mack, if we can, as a full council get that information.

5:03:59

We may have questions as well from you know, from the full council.

5:04:03

And as you look at this quarterly also.

5:04:05

Absolutely.

5:04:06

Thank you.

5:04:14

Robert.

5:04:15

Just to follow up to the question, Representative Trejo.

5:04:18

So the Quartal of Life Last Issuance was in January of 2020.

5:04:21

So we're from 2014 was the first and 2020 was the last one.

5:04:28

Thank you, Robert, and thank you.

5:04:30

If I I don't think we have any further discussion from council.

5:04:32

And Ms.

5:04:33

Prime, I don't think this item is for a vote.

5:04:36

Correct.

5:04:37

No action.

5:04:38

It's there's no action on this item.

5:04:39

Okay.

5:04:40

Thank you.

5:04:40

Can we take item 31?

5:04:42

Yes, item 31 is discussion in action to approve a resolution that the city council approves the list of projects and planning activities for the 2022 community progress bond proposition seek funds.

5:04:56

Hi.

5:04:56

Hi, Fernando.

5:04:58

Good afternoon.

5:05:00

Good afternoon, Mayor Putem, Council.

5:05:01

This is a presentation kind of complements what Ms.

5:05:04

Hernandez was talking to you all about with the community progress bond.

5:05:08

So we're gonna look into for your discussion and action on community progress bond proposition C in this case.

5:05:15

Which um it's five point two million dollars of the community progress bond to focus on climate energy and sustainability projects.

5:05:25

What we're bringing to you all today is in alignment with the recently approved climate action plan.

5:05:31

Obviously consistent with the bond process proposition language, and it it brings operational savings to city operations.

5:05:40

The three types of projects that we're proposing today, all of those bring operational savings to the city on top of improving resilience and safety for the community.

5:05:51

And those are solar lights, solar photovoltaics or solar panels for electricity generation and green infrastructure or stonewater catchment projects.

5:06:03

The first one, the solar lights, we propose we're proposing to you all for your discussion and consideration, the installation of solar lights for our streets, our parks, and the future safety complex bond uh for police and fire.

5:06:18

And you can see here that the estimated savings of these of these um solar lights are um are more than the estimated cost for those lights.

5:06:30

Uh 2.6 almost million dollars in savings versus 2.3 of the cost for those lights.

5:06:38

Here you can see a breakdown.

5:06:40

I'm sorry, it's a little bit small, but we wanted to include all the districts.

5:06:44

You see the the breakdown by district and location for the roadway projects of the solar lights of the solar lights.

5:06:53

You'll see that there is around 15, 16 lights per per district, and and those are the selected roadways that we've based on service requests, council requests, and technical considerations with our conversations with the streets and maintenance.

5:07:11

And here, even smaller breakdown, sorry for that.

5:07:15

Uh again by district, and you'll see the selected parks that we've considered for installation of solar lights, and on those you'll have basketball courts, you have trails, playgrounds, depending on the different parks at locations.

5:07:31

We work with with parks to determine what would be the best location for those solar lights to improve the usage of those parks, but also the safety very important as well.

5:07:45

And now going to the solar panel, solar photovoltaics for the installation of 500 kilowatts at the police and department safety complex.

5:07:55

And that would bring um considerable operating savings in the life cycle of this systems.

5:08:02

And we we understand it's gonna be a very energy intense facility with 24-7 operations, and we thought that this was a great location to take advantage of the sun of El Paso.

5:08:17

And finally, green infrastructure.

5:08:19

Um what we're trying to accomplish in collaboration with parks, it's to capture water from our parks and our streets to mitigate notions flooding and also um safe costs with irrigation.

5:08:35

The picture that you see here in this slide is hidden um hidden park and all that vegetation that you see on that nice picture, um, that's free of irrigation.

5:08:47

So that's an example of the types of projects we want to do, capturing water to irrigate our plans.

5:08:55

And as a summary of what we're proposing here to you all with proposition C for your consideration, is the is the high-level uh breakdown of all those projects based on the five point two million dollars that were approved in November 2022 by the voters.

5:09:14

So you can see all the the different costs for the street lights, park lights, the solar panels, and the I I forgot to mention we're also considering 30 lights for the safety complex.

5:09:26

So that again being a 24-7 police and fire um facility.

5:09:33

We we think it's gonna benefit from the increased resilience and the and the decreased cost in electricity.

5:09:42

And that's all that we have for you all for your discussion and and consideration.

5:09:47

Thank you, Fernando.

5:09:48

Representative Canales.

5:09:53

Yeah, again, this is I think very important uh deployment of the funds that were approved by the voters for these types of projects.

5:10:01

Um obviously the one of the larger uh undertakings was the development of the climate action plan.

5:10:08

But uh these kinds of direct projects into the community are also very important.

5:10:13

Um I know you said uh locations were guided by both uh requests and also technical considerations.

5:10:23

Um was any of this part of the process discussed as part of the uh public engagement on the climate action plan?

5:10:32

Or is this a separate consideration from the No, those are different considerations and requests that we received from residents and from you all.

5:10:40

The technical considerations for the most part in many of these locations, we don't have good access to the grid.

5:10:47

So um considering classic grid connected lights would would make these these projects almost impossible to implement.

5:10:56

Yeah, I want to make make that distinction for the public.

5:10:59

Um the projects here are chosen uh because they're potentially not good candidates for uh traditional connected lights.

5:11:08

Is that that does is that what makes sense, yeah, in many cases.

5:11:11

Um I think if you don't see your particular street or your particular park here, it doesn't mean that you're not able to get a light.

5:11:20

It just means you're potentially not the best candidate to get a solar light through this program, but there are other options.

5:11:26

So I just want to make sure that's clear for somebody who's watching also we have limited funds, so yes.

5:11:33

Uh thank you for the immense work on this.

5:11:35

It's a lot of uh a lot of lights and uh a lot of projects to get out into the public.

5:11:41

So thank you.

5:11:42

Yeah, and I want to highlight the collaboration with um with parks on the streets on on this work.

5:11:49

The more collaborative work the better.

5:11:51

Thanks.

5:11:52

Representative Nino.

5:11:54

Thank you, Mayor Pro Temp and Fernando.

5:11:57

I am extremely grateful for all the work that has taken into consideration of all of these different um, you know, projects all across the district and really balancing you know equity amongst all of our districts.

5:12:09

I um also want to thank Ms.

5:12:11

Mack and the entire team from Parks and Rec and Streets.

5:12:15

You know, um when it comes to District 5, I I'm very I I've been looking forward to this presentation.

5:12:22

I know that I met with you last week, but I wanted to touch base on one of the roadway projects in District 5, Echemir Boulevard.

5:12:29

Um I had made a budget request last year because this specific, you know, area is in front of El Dorado High School.

5:12:37

Um that school has existed for nearly 25 years, and I've met with um some of the students and the principals, and oftentimes they've shared that you know there's absolutely no street lights in in that corridor.

5:12:52

And some of the students use a cell phone to cross the street at night after practice, after some sort of activity that they have, the user's cell phone to light up the cross paths, you know.

5:13:04

And I know that I had made a request and and I'm very grateful for staff, Ms.

5:13:08

Ms.

5:13:09

Hernandez.

5:13:10

Uh they had come up with a design and and also gave me cost estimates uh for us to essentially look at how is it that we could put lights in this specific corridor and it was gonna be about a million dollars for us to put lights in front of El Dorado High School.

5:13:28

And um I know that I've shared a lot of concerns of safety for the students in the area, but I'm very grateful that you all took in consideration the service requests and also the request from the council members because now essentially we're only gonna be spending about 15% of those that one million dollar initial cost that it could have cost us, right?

5:13:50

Um overall, you know, I I've I've uh it's it's important for the community to know that even just this one specific street could have cost us a million dollars.

5:14:01

But you know, us getting this voter-approved funding, us working with the climate action plan, us collaborating with parks and streets and maintenance and our climate and sustainability department.

5:14:13

We're gonna be able to put lights, solar lights in front of this school in this major corridor that has brought a lot of different community concerns for district five and the students in this area.

5:14:24

Um it's a very important project for me and for my district and for the students of that school.

5:14:30

Uh I graduated from that school and again I I remember how dark it was when I was in high school.

5:14:35

So I'm very, very, very, very grateful for staff that really worked on making that one request that I made last year in the budget request.

5:14:45

You all navigated a way to make that budget request a reality.

5:14:50

And I'm very grateful for all the work that has taken in place to make it a reality.

5:14:55

I know the students are gonna be extremely excited.

5:15:00

And I know there's a lot of other uh safety measures that are gonna be taken into account in that area.

5:15:03

And I know that's not what the conversation is about, but again, Ms.

5:15:06

Mack, I am extremely grateful for for you and the staff, and uh I really wanted to highlight that specific street.

5:15:13

And I'm also looking forward to the additional, you know, lighting that will go up in different parks because it's gonna increase you know more participation at those parks.

5:15:24

I know um I'm gonna use an example.

5:15:26

I know that Rep Chavez put light solar lights at one of her parks, and it increased a lot of attendance.

5:15:33

So really making these community spaces more accessible for the community, or even in District 5, we just completed the Tira del Este Trail.

5:15:42

We were able to put street lights.

5:15:43

Thank you, Ms.

5:15:44

Fernandes, for for helping with that.

5:15:46

Um it's about creating those safe community spaces and making everyone feel welcome.

5:15:51

So thank you, Fernando Furro, for all the work.

5:15:53

Thank you.

5:15:57

Representative Acevedo.

5:15:59

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

5:16:01

Pernando, thank you for the work.

5:16:03

I know we've talked about this coming, and I've been asking about this for a week, so I'm excited to see it.

5:16:09

And I don't have particular issues with any of what you're proposing.

5:16:16

I think it's it's fine.

5:16:18

But what I what I do worry is this has been really important to the community.

5:16:24

You know, there right before I got here, there was a lot of discourse around the climate action plan and awarding that contract, and we awarded it and did its thing, and at the same time that that was happening, we were saying we're gonna use the zoo as a model.

5:16:41

And the the model will be the zoo, and we're gonna do all these improvements to the zoo.

5:16:45

I understand some of that has shifted, and we have an important item today that I keep referencing, which is item 34, and there's other buckets of money that are coming.

5:16:55

But just in general, that's what I was hoping to have an explanation on how this decision was reversed because we had set something to the public, and then today we have completely transformed this funding, and there hasn't been, at least from my understanding, any public input on how this changed to what it is today.

5:17:17

Okay.

5:17:17

So I just wanted to throw that out there.

5:17:20

So um part of what I know the discussion was with with regarding the zoo was some of the HVAC system work that needed to happen.

5:17:28

We paid for that out of zoo funds.

5:17:31

I think council approved I don't know, seven or fourteen HVAC systems to be able to do that.

5:17:36

Um and the other item that they were looking at was so solar covering for staff parking in the parking lot.

5:17:43

And so we were gonna have one or two projects that were taking the majority of the funds.

5:17:48

And so as I began having this conversation with Fernando, and we have so many issues with lighting throughout our city.

5:17:55

I think this does a lot of things for us in terms of checking boxes that are important to community.

5:18:01

We know that vision zero is important for us, lighted roadways are important for us.

5:18:06

Uh we've just passed our strategic plan that's talking about making our you know public amenities more accessible.

5:18:13

We did use uh district one's um uh basketball court as a model.

5:18:18

We didn't think that we would be able to use solar lighting uh to be able to do that.

5:18:23

And so I really saw this as an opportunity for us to stretch capacity to have a lot of input in places where you've already made investments.

5:18:32

As you might recall, we spent around six million dollars resurfacing um through the ARPA funds, our basketball courts, and other courts.

5:18:40

So this really provides additional hours for that.

5:18:43

Uh we were lucky enough to get a grant uh from the EPA that paid for a portion of uh the uh the plan.

5:18:51

So we were able to use more dollars towards the projects.

5:18:55

And so I think here we just wanted to make sure that one, we were saving dollars.

5:18:59

I mean the the police uh facility made sense for us if you look at high uses of energy for our city, it is absolutely police and fire in 24-7 facilities, and so we will see some impact for ourselves in terms of electric bill.

5:19:15

Um, but I think it was important for us as we saw the shifts of dollars not coming from the feds to be able to complement what we thought might be available to the climate plan was was to stretch just across the districts to the best of our ability.

5:19:27

Okay, I I appreciate the the explanation and I'm hoping that maybe at least um you'll be you'd be open to coming to one of my community meetings to kind of explain what this update is just because it has been top of mind and again I I think the shift and the process of getting to that shift makes total sense and I see what you were thinking.

5:19:50

I was just worried about promising something to the public and then switching it and not going back to the public to tell them this is why we were switching it because there were quite a bit of meetings and the staff put on some really amazing meetings specifically at the zoo, and I just wanted to throw that out there in terms of transparency with with the public.

5:20:09

And then um I could hold this question for item thirty-four, but I know one of the things that informed what this money was going to be used for the zoo was a study.

5:20:21

So I kind of wanted to understand it seems like item thirty-four is getting us to that comprehensive plan.

5:20:26

Um instead of being reactive, like you said, HVAC a few months ago, we're getting to a point where we're tackling a lot of these things, especially for accreditation.

5:20:34

I'm wondering how much of that plan that identified all of those issues, a percentage.

5:20:39

I can bring those to you.

5:20:40

So I've actually asked Mr.

5:20:42

Bristol to pull together what we're calling the road to AZA with accreditation.

5:20:46

So showing you all the facilities, all the checklists and things that we're working on.

5:20:51

Um as you're seeing, uh we actually had Miss uh Hernandez as soon as the ACA report came out.

5:20:57

She did contract um someone to do an assessment for us based on that report, and so we're knocking off the list a lot of those projects, but I want to bring that to you comprehensively, and maybe that's one of the things we share with your community so they can see what we're doing at the zoo, because there was quite a bit of investment that's happening.

5:21:12

Okay, I would appreciate that.

5:21:14

Now thank you for all of that explanation.

5:21:17

I wanted to shift to where we're at on in terms of the the proposed um projects on here.

5:21:25

Um wondering when we had kind of looked at this a few weeks ago, I was kind of saying that Washington Park is getting a lot of stuff this year in terms of Alebrikas and Sun City Lights, which is really great.

5:21:39

And I consistently get a lot of requests from Lincoln Park to have lights.

5:21:46

So were you able to look at that and and you still went with Washington Park?

5:21:50

I wanted to understand that because the people in Lincoln Park constantly asked me for the for lights there, and I haven't gotten one request from Washington Park.

5:21:57

Yeah, we look into that and um yeah, the the we consider Lincoln Park and given the the roadways over the park.

5:22:08

I mean the the solar lights were kind of challenging to actually leverage the the solar light itself.

5:22:16

So that was why we we continue going with Washington Park instead of Lincoln Park in that case.

5:22:22

Okay.

5:22:23

So it was too challenging to do solar and was gonna be yeah, is it is too challenging to do the design and and to actually make sure that we're gonna realize in all the all the sun and the generation in the what what we don't want is to install solar lights and then mid of the night because we haven't charged those, we the the residents don't have that expected line.

5:22:45

Okay.

5:22:46

I appreciate that explanation.

5:22:48

Um one one other thing that I see as being a huge deal for my district and representative Boretrejo's district is Hondopass.

5:22:58

That has kept me up at night since I got elected to this position.

5:23:02

There's been a lot of discussion on that.

5:23:05

I don't know if you got in it, Re Boyer Trejo, but the people on my side of Hondopas uh if you look at Hondo Pass, that's the that's the border of district two and four.

5:23:16

So Reboretrejo has the north side, I have the south side of of Hondo Pass just to make it easier.

5:23:22

And my constituents in that area have complained for a very long time that there's no lights on Hondo Pass between um railroad to Diana.

5:23:33

So that's gonna be a game changer, and I really appreciate that that's being included here.

5:23:38

Um so I just wanted to throw that out there.

5:23:40

Yeah, thank you.

5:23:41

Yeah, we consider it I I remembered your input a few weeks ago.

5:23:44

So we look into that.

5:23:46

Yep.

5:23:46

Okay.

5:23:47

Thank you so much.

5:23:48

Well, Representative Rocha.

5:23:51

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

5:23:53

And thank you, Fernando, for this.

5:23:55

I I reviewed it over the weekend and just want to make sure, because you mentioned earlier there's about 15 lights per district, and that that's uh it it's about right.

5:24:03

I think two and four got a little bit more.

5:24:05

I was looking at the percentages.

5:24:07

But I I'm okay with that.

5:24:09

Um my question though is more towards the allocation of of solar lights and lights at the park.

5:24:15

And the reason I bring that up is because um from what I had seen on slide it was at the very beginning, uh slide four.

5:24:25

That one shows a hundred and forty streets, which streets is is uh totaling one point four to seven, one point four two eight million, and then a hundred and fifteen sports courts, which totals about six hundred and fifty-one, six hundred and fifty-two thousand.

5:24:39

When I added up the street lights for the um for the streets, I'm sitting at one thirty-five.

5:24:47

Yes.

5:24:47

And then it's one twenty for the sport, so it's like a bit of a of a savings is what it looks like.

5:24:53

Okay.

5:24:53

I just want to make sure.

5:25:00

So I sat there and I was like, I I I just wanted to be sure because I'm doing the math, so I didn't know if the cost was less, which to my calculations based off of what was on slide four, it looked like there was about a 22,006 savings.

5:25:10

If it's really 120 sports courts and 135 streets.

5:25:15

So I'll start with the sports courts or parks.

5:25:18

That's a that's the typo.

5:25:20

So it should be 120.

5:25:21

Okay, so that one's the 120.

5:25:23

So is the cost for that correct at the 651949?

5:25:27

That reflects the 120?

5:25:29

Yes.

5:25:29

And you see that it's considerably less than the streets.

5:25:33

Yes, that's why I asked.

5:25:34

Is the illumination need on the on the size of the poll?

5:25:38

It's much larger for streets.

5:25:40

So the cost of those lights for for roadways is much more expensive.

5:25:45

Right.

5:25:46

I understand.

5:25:46

I just wanted to be sure that I was looking.

5:25:48

The 651949 reflects the 120 sports court lights.

5:25:52

It does.

5:25:53

Okay.

5:25:53

And then the streets reflects 135.

5:25:56

Yes.

5:25:56

Okay, perfect.

5:25:57

And that's because we I mean accidents happen.

5:26:01

Right.

5:26:02

I understand.

5:26:02

So we're gonna have five in in stock just in case.

5:26:06

And that was uh I think a smart recommendation from our team from the streets.

5:26:11

So if anything happens, we have five lights to replace the damaged slides.

5:26:17

Okay.

5:26:17

I appreciate that.

5:26:18

I just wanted to be sure that I understood as I was count doing my my counting practice.

5:26:24

So thank you.

5:26:25

I appreciate it.

5:26:29

Representative Trejo.

5:26:30

Thank you, Mayor Protein.

5:26:32

Uh a couple of questions.

5:26:34

So on slide three.

5:26:37

The green infrastructure.

5:26:38

Did I miss?

5:26:39

I don't know if I saw it on here.

5:26:41

What what is the uh water capture and the green infrastructure?

5:26:46

If I may go to the to slide number eight.

5:26:50

Oh, right.

5:26:51

So on slide number eight, we have that example on that picture.

5:26:55

And as you know, whenever we get rain, we we get a lot of nuisance flooding.

5:27:00

We not only have that on our streets, but also at our parks.

5:27:05

So that's a lot of stuff time and and time fixing those issues with flooding.

5:27:11

So green infrastructure mitigates that by capturing water and and driving that water to the vegetation.

5:27:20

So that way we one we we irrigate at plants, but two, we mitigate the that flooding that happens both at parks and streets.

5:27:30

Okay.

5:27:30

Do you have those areas identified already or parks has plenty of candidates for that?

5:27:36

We'll get back to you all with uh selected uh list of projects because we have we haven't gotten that far with that one.

5:27:43

Um it's it's a lot as you see it's 264,000.

5:27:48

So we'll be selecting those those locations with parks.

5:27:52

Okay.

5:27:53

And then on slide uh five.

5:27:56

I actually had a question on what uh Representative Acivedo asked regarding Hondo Pass.

5:28:02

When you're doing the lighting, are you looking at both sides of the street?

5:28:05

Because we're looking at two different streets.

5:28:06

Yes, I remember your question.

5:28:08

So we'll get back to with the back with the streets, and then um we'll get back to you with an answer on that because uh I don't have that answer for you right now.

5:28:17

Okay.

5:28:19

And then on slide uh six, when you're talking about the parks, so the uh you know, looking at this, uh all the uh districts are are receiving equal amounts of lighting.

5:28:29

Uh thank you for that.

5:28:31

Uh you know, looking at it cost savings for solar lighting in then areas where they're most needed in parks.

5:28:39

So thank you again, Fernando, for all the you and your team are doing and putting this together.

5:28:43

Appreciate it.

5:28:47

Thank you, Fernando.

5:28:48

I'm very much looking forward to all of these lights and all of the districts all over our city.

5:28:53

Um and just because representative brought it up, and so did the city manager.

5:28:57

Uh Alex Hoffman did a study on on the park that I put two solar lights in, and the usage of that park increased by 800% after the lights were installed, thanks to the study that he did.

5:29:09

And when you look at the data uh for every day of the week, it was pretty much equal every single day of the week.

5:29:16

So it's impressive how much difference lighting can make for a community for a neighborhood and for the quality of life of our youth to promote you know a healthy well-being and just usage of our public spaces.

5:29:28

So I'm very much looking forward to all of these lights being installed all over our city.

5:29:33

Thank you for the presentation and for your work and for your team as well.

5:29:37

Uh council, we do not have a motion yet on this item.

5:29:40

So could thank you.

5:29:44

Thank you.

5:29:44

Ms.

5:29:45

Prime.

5:29:46

Can you please call for the vote?

5:29:47

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Representative Canales.

5:29:52

And this is to approve the resolution on item 31 on that motion, call for the vote.

5:30:09

And the voting session.

5:30:11

And that motion passes unanimously.

5:30:15

Okay, Ms.

5:30:15

Pran, let's take item number 32.

5:30:17

Yes, item 32 is discussion and action on a resolution authorizing the city manager to sign a non-binding memorandum of understanding MOU, buying between the City of El Paso, the County of Al Paso, and the Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation in support of an opportunity to incorporate structural elements and future proofing infrastructure to support a deck plaza, downtown deck plaza over a portion of the Texas Department of Transportation Downtown 10 project.

5:30:45

Hello, Ian.

5:30:47

Good afternoon, Mayor Pro Tem and Council.

5:30:51

All right.

5:30:52

So we're going to be walking you through an MOU between the City of El Paso, the County of El Paso, and the Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation.

5:31:04

And this is concerning the downtown deck plaza project that would go in tandem with the TechStot downtown tent project.

5:31:23

All right.

5:31:24

So the purpose of this MOU is really to uh enable our partner, uh, the DEC Plaza Foundation to be able to more aggressively pursue uh private uh funding for this project and also to establish clear roles and expectations of all partners in the project.

5:31:46

Um the goal really is to uh have this MOU in place well in advance of a an advanced funding agreement with TechStot for the future proofing component of the downtown deck park project.

5:32:06

So the MOU establishes uh three partners uh and their roles.

5:32:10

The city will maintain uh lead on coordinating with TechStot and the MPO on development and construction of the project uh as such.

5:32:20

Uh the city will be entering into those advanced funding agreements with TechSot and will be as a consequence the owner of the asset.

5:32:29

Uh the county will work on co-design of the project, and any future funding from the county will be subject to court approval.

5:32:39

The Deck Plaza Foundation will be lead on the design of the amenities, uh and will be leading the private fundraising effort for this project.

5:32:52

A small breakdown on how the project will play out.

5:32:56

Right now we are in phase one and the design component specifically.

5:33:01

Uh council approved an AFA with TechStop for that design.

5:33:06

Uh we are now working on the funding of the future proofing component.

5:33:12

As you can see, the construction and operations are still a ways off.

5:33:19

So there are four key operational and financial uh aspects of the MOU that I want to go over.

5:33:27

Uh the MOU establishes an operator model.

5:33:30

Uh it's a common model for uh deck plaza projects throughout the country.

5:33:36

Uh it establishes key areas of responsibility around infrastructure.

5:33:41

Uh it limits financial exposure and it sets an agreement on how the how progress happens with this project.

5:33:52

So as I mentioned, the operational model is uh or the operator model rather is is a common model for these kinds of projects.

5:34:00

It establishes that establishes a nonprofit as the lead on maintenance and operations of the amenities component of the park.

5:34:10

Uh we are not asking through this MOU to finalize an agreement between the city and the DEP park on what that uh maintenance and operation role will look like.

5:34:20

That will come at a later date, but it does designate the deck plaza foundation as that potential operator.

5:34:31

So infrastructure responsibility.

5:34:34

As the owner of the deck park asset, uh the city will enter an agreement into an agreement with Techstop for the maintenance of the tunnel system and life safety infrastructure required for that deck park.

5:34:51

Uh the downtown deck plaza foundation will be responsible for any operations and maintenance of the park piece, the amenities on top.

5:35:05

I want to be very clear that this is a non-binding MOU that does not obligate the city to any financial commitment as a result of entering into this agreement.

5:35:16

The city's participation is capped at every phase.

5:35:20

To be clear, what that means is if that phase does not complete, then the project pauses and it comes back to council for next step.

5:35:29

So right now we are in the future proofing part of this project.

5:35:34

That amount is 43 million.

5:35:37

I'll show you in a later slide where we are on the fundraising for that component.

5:35:42

And we have a deadline that we have to meet in order to progress further beyond that component.

5:35:49

The long-term cost of the maintenance comes up a lot.

5:35:53

That will be determined at a later date through a different agreement.

5:36:02

And again, as I mentioned, uh any advancement beyond the future proofing will require securing further funding.

5:36:26

There will at every step of the way be uh more clarifying definitive agreements that will require approval by council.

5:36:35

Uh that won't be covered within the CMOU.

5:36:41

So we talked about the future proofing and the 43 million.

5:36:44

We have identified 22.5 million dollars worth of federal funding for this project that to activate that federal funding will require $6 million match locally.

5:36:57

And that leaves us with a $14.5 million gap that we are still identifying funds for.

5:37:04

We recently submitted for another community project funding request that was selected by Congresswoman Escobar.

5:37:10

That's for an additional three million.

5:37:12

We're also in the process of working on a $25 million writer within the state legislative agenda.

5:37:19

And we continue to explore other sources of funding that could fill that gap.

5:37:25

One of the key constraints, as I mentioned, is we are uh working to identify these sources of funding before October when we anticipate we will be coming back to council with the advanced funding agreement uh for the future proofing component with TechSot.

5:37:44

Quick explanation of the future proofing.

5:37:46

So, what do we mean by future proofing?

5:37:48

So, what it does is it really just enhances components of the current uh downtown tech uh 10 project, uh specifically deepening uh columns, uh thickening walls in order to be able to support that that cap structure as opposed to just supporting the bridges that are anticipated to uh come down and be rebuilt as part of the original project.

5:38:21

So once again, we're asking council to uh take action on a resolution authorizing the city manager to sign a non-binding uh MOU with uh the county of El Paso and the Deck Plaza Foundation uh to continue work on this project.

5:38:38

Uh happy to take any questions.

5:38:42

Thank you, Ian.

5:38:43

Representative Canales.

5:38:46

Thank you.

5:38:47

Um I make it a point to explain any and every vote that anyone asks me for an explanation of and also to explain publicly my opinion on anything or any topic, I guess, that uh is of any particular public interest.

5:39:05

Um I wrote an op-ed published by Alpass Matters almost exactly a year ago in April of 2025.

5:39:13

Um Paz Matters still has that online.

5:39:16

It's uh available on my website as well.

5:39:18

So anybody who wants to know my full opinion, I will spare people today, uh, but they can read it there.

5:39:26

Um I would imagine that uh the downtown deck plaza foundation may at times view me as a bit of a thorn in the side of their work.

5:39:37

Um because I've openly spoken about the challenges associated with the project and and not just the benefits.

5:39:44

Um I I think we owe that explanation to our constituents.

5:39:47

Um I want to be clear, I I've voted against some funding for the deck plaza in the past, and then I've also voted in favor of other aspects of the project at other times.

5:40:00

Um I am going to read just brief, just one quick excerpt from that op-ed that I wrote a year ago that was true a year ago and I think is true now.

5:40:08

Um and it reads as such.

5:40:11

Uh I want to be clear again.

5:40:12

I'm not advocating against the deck plaza, but I do believe strongly that if it continues to be advanced, it must only be done in a way that is realistic, responsible, and sustainable.

5:40:22

That means every level of government involved in this conversation has to proceed with eyes wide open to the trade-offs involved, and also has to be willing to acknowledge that the most responsible course of action may ultimately be not to do it at all.

5:40:36

A lot will depend on where the puzzle pieces fall outside of our control.

5:40:42

So if the deck plazas to proceed, I I believe that it will rely very heavily, if not entirely, on both state and federal funding outside grants, as well as as private philanthropic contributions.

5:40:59

And this MOU allows for that possibility.

5:41:03

So I I still maintain the position that I've held from the start that this would be a very good, very nice public amenity if the burden for it doesn't fall on El Paso taxpayers.

5:41:15

So I'll I'll keep my comments short there, but I do want to close with some rapid fire type questions for you to make sure that everyone uh who's watching is completely clear on what the MOU is and what it isn't, and what the MOU does and what it doesn't do.

5:41:32

It will repeat some of your presentation, but I think it's important to lay it out as simply as possible.

5:41:37

Um the memorandum of understanding we're considering today is non-binding.

5:41:42

Is that correct?

5:41:43

That is correct.

5:41:44

Okay.

5:41:44

The MOU is primarily about outlining the roles and responsibilities of the of the different entities moving forward, including coordination of uh design and future operations and maintenance roles so that everyone is on the same page.

5:41:58

Is that accurate?

5:41:59

That is correct.

5:42:00

Uh this agreement does not commit the city to spend any money, correct?

5:42:04

That is correct.

5:42:05

Uh this item does not propose using any local taxpayer funds for construction of the deck plaza, correct?

5:42:12

That is correct.

5:42:13

Uh under the framework in the MOU, the Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation would be be responsible for raising uh private funds for construction and future phases, correct?

5:42:24

That is correct.

5:42:26

Uh the expectation is that philanthropic contributions along with potential state and federal grants uh would likely be the primary funding sources for the project, is that right?

5:42:36

That is correct.

5:42:37

Uh the downtown Deck Plaza Foundation would also fund and perform park operations and maintenance, is that correct?

5:42:43

Yes, that is a key feature.

5:42:45

Uh the city's financial participation is capped for current phases and subject to future approvals uh by the council, is that correct?

5:42:54

Any future commitments will require council approval.

5:42:57

Uh there's a timeline consideration for for tech stots uh separate highway projects.

5:43:03

So if funding for support structures is not secured by October 2026, the the deck plaza would likely not be able to move forward because Techsta needs to know whether they're incorporating the future proofing into their planning.

5:43:17

Is that accurate?

5:43:18

We are operating under that assumption today, yes.

5:43:21

Okay.

5:43:22

Uh the MOU makes it clear that advancement beyond the current phases requires secured funding, uh demonstrated financial capacity from the Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation, and then execution of the required agreements in the future for actually obligating the money.

5:43:39

Is that correct?

5:43:40

That is correct.

5:43:41

Um approving the MOU doesn't obligate the city to fund or construct any uh deck plaza infrastructure at any point in the future.

5:43:49

Is that correct?

5:43:50

Is correct.

5:43:51

Okay.

5:43:51

And then one more that's kind of separately from the MOU specifically, but I think is important to clarify.

5:43:56

For whatever reason I hear time and again this notion out there, it's floating around that there was a bond election at which voters declined to approve funding for the deck plaza.

5:44:08

Um bond funding has never been considered by the city council, so to put it as clearly as possible, this issue has never appeared on the ballot in front of El Paso voters.

5:44:18

Is that correct?

5:44:19

Not to my knowledge.

5:44:22

Okay.

5:44:24

Um and lastly, we heard from a few public commenters this morning uh that nobody supports this project.

5:44:32

We then heard from other commenters who did support it, so I think that the the that already is is not true.

5:44:38

But some of my constituents who are who are not in support, they don't believe me when I say that I hear from kind of a mix of people who are in support and uh who are in opposition.

5:44:48

So uh I'll start with the disclaimer that like social media doesn't reflect the the will of the whole world.

5:45:00

But uh FitFam, which I think I can safely say is El Paso's largest uh social media account and kind of a decent indication of El Paso sentiment, uh shared really great accurate information last night with the public and they put out a poll to their 662,000 followers asking do you support the downtown El Paso Deck Plaza?

5:45:16

Um 3,701 responses as of a few minutes ago.

5:45:23

The the results came back as follows.

5:45:25

Uh yes, 42%.

5:45:28

Yes, but only if local taxpayers don't fund it, 25%, neither for nor against it, 5%, and no, 28%.

5:45:38

So that's a total of 67% support if the project isn't funded with with local taxpayer money, and about 28% opposition.

5:45:46

Um of course that doesn't mean that those in opposition have an invalid opinion, but I think they need to realize that we as uh representatives of everyone in our district have to listen to all of our constituents when we're when we're making a decision.

5:46:01

Um and that n there's no single opinion of the community on this project.

5:46:07

Uh opinion is split and uh at least on this forum there is uh pretty significant support for for this project.

5:46:16

Um again, it's important for us to be realistic about this, but I I think the MOU is a step that helps us to uh reach a project that uh ultimately is a a good way to uh proceed with the deck plaza that doesn't burden the taxpayer.

5:46:34

Um if it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out.

5:46:37

Um but this MOU doesn't bind us to anything that uh would lead directly to uh the taxpayers being on the hook for anything.

5:46:46

Is that is that correct?

5:46:48

That is correct.

5:46:49

Okay.

5:46:49

Um and so I I do plan to support the MOU today.

5:46:54

Uh I think it's uh fairly simple ask of the council to enter into this kind of agreement so that we have uh clearly uh defined roles and expectations among the different parties who are uh collaborating on the project.

5:47:10

Thank you.

5:47:13

Representative Fierro.

5:47:15

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

5:47:17

Ian, thank you for um patiently and very detailedly going through this with the MOU.

5:47:24

Um I just have a couple real quick questions.

5:47:28

If today we support the MOU, we vote it through.

5:47:32

How much are we committing to committing from the city in regards to the financial commitment within the MOU?

5:47:39

Today the MOU, there's no financial commitment from the city.

5:47:42

That is correct.

5:47:44

Isn't it quite uh the opposite?

5:47:46

Aren't we adding another resource or partner or are they already partners, but somebody else is gonna help us raise the the that $14 million that we're we're short?

5:47:57

Yes, it formalizes the partnership with the Deck Plaza Foundation.

5:48:01

So now there's three partners working together to find the resources to put this together.

5:48:07

That is correct.

5:48:08

Thank you, Ian.

5:48:11

Representative Acevedo.

5:48:14

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

5:48:16

Ian, um thank you for all the work that you've done, Ms.

5:48:19

Mac, your team, Omar.

5:48:21

I know it's been all all hands on deck.

5:48:23

I'm not mentioning everyone, but I just wanted Ms.

5:48:26

Neiman, your team, everyone has been working on this diligently for months now.

5:48:32

And um I have a a few questions that I think are very obvious answers in terms of definitions, but I still want the public to fully understand what they mean.

5:48:46

And I I kind of want to understand what non-binding means, and if Ms.

5:48:50

Neiman could give us the the legal term on terminology on that, what what exactly does that mean?

5:48:58

The use of the term non-binding means that it doesn't bind the city to commit to any funds or any actual specific performance.

5:49:07

Like a traditional contract would.

5:49:09

Okay.

5:49:10

I'm also happy to read the exact part of the MOU if it's helpful, it's really fast.

5:49:15

Yeah, thank you.

5:49:16

Uh describes the non-binding effect of the MOU.

5:49:19

The MOU does not create a binding obligation to fund, construct, operate, or maintain the project.

5:49:25

All binding commitments shall be set forth in separate definite agreements approved by the applicable governing bodies.

5:49:35

Okay.

5:49:36

Thank you for that, Ian.

5:49:37

Thank you, Ms.

5:49:37

Neiman.

5:49:38

And feature proofing gets thrown out a lot, and I know you you threw that out there, and there's some nice little drawings in the presentation.

5:49:47

Can you just give me what that means in Lehman's terms?

5:49:50

Sure.

5:50:04

And maybe Joaquin can describe this better, but just very quickly.

5:50:24

Good afternoon, Mayor and Council Joaquin Rodriguez with capital improvements.

5:50:27

So future proofing refers specifically to changes to the TextOt project, which will accommodate the weight of a future deck.

5:50:35

So thicker walls, deeper drill shafts, and added depth of the bridge structures.

5:50:40

Okay.

5:50:41

And so that's why October 2026 is an important deadline because that's kind of when they're getting everything ready to do the expansion, correct?

5:50:49

Correct.

5:50:50

Future proofing are all elements that are already associated with the widening project.

5:50:54

So that all of those construction activities would run concurrently with Text Dot's existing project.

5:51:00

Okay.

5:51:00

I I appreciate that.

5:51:02

And I think if you look at just uh the history of highways and how that was built, and believe it was Eisenhower has the whole prize for creating the highway system in in the country.

5:51:16

I I think about how many people were displaced during that time and across the country, not just in El Paso.

5:51:24

This feels like a way of getting that back to the community in terms of making them go under something, giving them a park and connecting communities.

5:51:33

And I think that's something that I've seen throughout the project being set in terms of we're connecting the city's core back to the neighborhood that was taken at the time, right?

5:51:45

And now we're getting a park in in this if everything falls in line and we're meeting all the different milestones throughout.

5:51:52

One of the big components that's important to me is what this does for housing.

5:51:59

And in terms of the MOU today, that's not a component that we're looking at just yet, right?

5:52:06

That would be different because what you said earlier is components would be coming before council as they proceed.

5:52:13

That is correct.

5:52:14

Okay.

5:52:14

And I do see Nicole and Tracy here, so I don't know if there's anything that you can share right now on future housing plans for the deck on what that would what that what that would bring.

5:52:29

I'm sorry to put you on the spot, Tracy.

5:52:40

Good afternoon.

5:52:41

Uh Mayor Pro Tem and all of council.

5:52:43

Thank you to Ian and to Dion, to Carla and the whole team, uh Omar, for working on the project and for all of you for taking the time today to consider the item.

5:52:52

Um the project as described in the MOU includes six and a half acres of park and which is over the cap, and then 1.7 acres of right of way that could be potential future housing.

5:53:03

So we would need permission from Text Dot and an agreement with the city for the right to be able to develop that uh that space into about 1,700 units that have been estimated, you know, three, four, five-story mixed income, mixed-use housing.

5:53:18

So it supports very much the housing plans and the uptown, downtown plan, and also the city's more recent work on uh housing needs, that kind of 28,000 units uh that we need in our community and of all range of housing, but including affordable housing.

5:53:34

That's great to hear.

5:53:35

I I hadn't heard the exact amounts of what you were thinking, so I I really appreciate you sharing that.

5:53:41

And in terms of asking for permission from TechStat and the city when that comes to fruition, there's already precedent that has been set in other cities in Texas, right?

5:53:50

So that permission would probably be granted to do something like that.

5:53:53

We have uh an understanding that there is a precedent of Text Dot uh contributing right away to a public entity in another community uh around a project like this.

5:54:02

And so this would be something that we would uh uh pursue with the legislative delegation for the permission to do something similar.

5:54:09

Okay, perfect.

5:54:10

Thank you so much.

5:54:11

Um I think that's all I have.

5:54:13

Thank you again to everybody that's been working on this.

5:54:17

Representative Trejo.

5:54:19

Thank you, Mayor.

5:54:21

It's gonna seem mayor.

5:54:23

Uh Ian, I have a few questions.

5:54:26

Uh and a lot of this has already been asked, but I just want to ask for clarification or you know, make record of this as well.

5:54:35

Is is this vote on building the deck plaza?

5:54:39

I'm sorry, can you read that?

5:54:42

No, no, no.

5:54:47

Okay.

5:54:47

Does this opportunity exist because TechSdot is doing an extension of I-TET?

5:54:53

Yes.

5:54:54

Okay.

5:55:00

Does this at any future step, especially during the construction or funding, does it need to come back to council for approval?

5:55:05

Any future agreements, any future funding requests will need to come back to council.

5:55:10

Okay.

5:55:16

Thank you.

5:55:16

Those are the only questions I have.

5:55:21

Representative Ropcha.

5:55:23

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

5:55:25

And thank you, Ian, for the presentation.

5:55:28

You know, this is this uh I'm excited about the project.

5:55:32

I I share a lot of the sentiments that Rep Canales does as well.

5:55:36

You know, I don't want it on the taxpayers' backs at all.

5:55:40

I'm a taxpayer.

5:55:41

So I want to make sure that we provide something that's very thoughtful without having to burden any taxpayer with any of that.

5:55:50

So I'm I'm really for you know, looking for all the additional monies through the federal grants, philanthropy, anything like that that we can do.

5:55:59

Um I will say that that one of the things that that excites me about the project.

5:56:04

Last year I had Senator Cesad Blanco at my at a community meeting of mine.

5:56:09

And he reminded me of of the separation of what took place when I-10 was originally built in the 50s and 60s and how it separated and really segregated a lot of our communities.

5:56:23

And so to have an opportunity here to be able to reconnect that again is absolutely exciting to me.

5:56:30

Well, I see it in my lifetime, I hope, but you know, I don't I I have to give it every shot that I can.

5:56:37

This is a wonderful opportunity because there is no cost to it, correct?

5:56:41

There's no cost to doing the MOU, and it allows you to work with those additional stakeholders to identify additional money that the state delegation has been out trying to get, and that the federal delegation, Congresswoman uh Escobar and Congressman Gonzalez are both being reached out as far as I know to provide some type of grants for the the deck park.

5:57:09

With that being said, um I I do have a question.

5:57:12

So this may not be the appropriate time to ask it, but the monies that were spent that you shared on your on your um deck, no pun intended, um that's only designated for the deck park.

5:57:28

Can it be designated for something else since it's been provided to us by the federal and state legislative?

5:57:35

So any grants that we receive for this project in particular can only be used for this project.

5:57:43

I and I want to that bears repeating again, Ian, because I think that there's a there there may be an understanding at some point that we can reallocate this money to do something else within the city of El Paso.

5:57:58

But my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that it can only be used for this project.

5:58:05

That is correct.

5:58:06

And and what I would like to add is we we pursue federal and state funding for a number of projects.

5:58:12

Right.

5:58:13

Um this project has has been a successful one for us to obtain federal and state funding for.

5:58:20

But once that that use has been identified for the funding, that's what it needs to be used for.

5:58:26

Okay, thank you.

5:58:27

And and real quick, um, I I received uh a message from a constituent that wanted me to read something into the record.

5:58:35

Ms.

5:58:36

Prine, I sent this out.

5:58:37

I know you shared it with the rest of council.

5:58:40

Um, however, he'd like for me to read it, so I'm gonna use my time to read it at this time.

5:58:45

Uh my name is Andrew Bustamante.

5:58:47

I'm a father of three young children, and I was raised in El Paso.

5:58:50

After living in San Antonio for seven years in Denver for another seven years, seeing the recent downtown improvements is a breath of fresh air.

5:58:59

I work downtown and would like to see future-proofing our city.

5:59:04

Our family goes to church downtown, and it would be fantastic to have an area for our family to be with other families after services instead of having to find an area outside to meet.

5:59:15

Thank you, all the best.

5:59:16

And with that said, um, you know, I I I want to thank Representative Canales.

5:59:21

I know you did uh a really thorough job of putting it out on social media posts.

5:59:27

In addition to what you shared last last year in El Paso Matters, it was extremely thorough and and it explained exactly what the MOU indicates and what the purpose of it is today.

5:59:41

Um I would like to also use my time, Ms.

5:59:43

Prine to show that video, please.

5:59:46

Yes, IT will be bringing it up.

5:59:48

Thank you so much.

5:59:48

I appreciate it.

5:59:51

As our community prepares for TechSot to reconstruct I 10 in downtown El Paso, we have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to do more than rebuild a freeway.

6:00:01

The deck plaza will cap the freeway with a 6.5 acre park that will attract over 1 million visitors annually from across El Paso and beyond.

6:00:11

Imagine a vibrant destination filled with celebrations, barber's markets, local art, sports, and everyday moments that showcase our region's heritage and culture.

6:00:20

All in the heart of our city.

6:00:22

This is more than a beautification project.

6:00:26

With an estimated 1 billion dollars and economic impact, this public-private partnership has the potential to transform, reconnect, and spark new growth for El Paso from mixed-use housing developments and job creation to environmental and health benefits.

6:00:42

Let's create a new signature public space for all to enjoy.

6:00:46

By acting now, we can shape a future that reflects who we are and what we want to pass on to future generations.

6:00:54

Let's elevate the 10 and begin building our future today.

6:00:58

Learn more and be part of what's next at downtown Deck Plaza.org.

6:01:04

Thank you, Ms.

6:01:05

Prine and thank you, IT.

6:01:07

And with that, I just want to, you know, bear an another repetition that I don't want to burden my chat my children or my grandchildren with paying for this at all.

6:01:18

But I think it there's a great opportunity in this MOU to be able to go and give you all the tools that you need to go and look for that potential.

6:01:28

So thank you, Ian, for um coming and and bringing this to us today.

6:01:35

I think it's a great opportunity for us to be able to just formalize the arrangement that that the city can have with the other stakeholders for this project.

6:01:45

Thanks.

6:01:48

I appreciate that you brought up Senator Blanco and Congresswoman Escobar.

6:01:52

Uh the funding that we've obtained for this project wouldn't have been possible without their assistance.

6:01:57

So thank you for bringing it up.

6:01:59

Absolutely agreed, yes.

6:02:02

Representative Nino.

6:02:03

Thank you, Mayor Pro Temp, and thank you, Ian and Ms.

6:02:06

Mag again for all the work that has taken into account to put this presentation together.

6:02:11

I echo a lot of the sentiment that my colleagues have also shared.

6:02:14

I don't think any of us want to put a further burden on the taxpayers.

6:02:18

I know a lot of families are struggling.

6:02:20

Um I would like to ask you, uh Ian, if you could read section one point two one more time of the non-biding effect.

6:02:28

I'll try not to garble it this time.

6:02:31

Uh this MOU does not create a binding obligation to fund, construct, operate, or maintain the project.

6:02:38

All binding commitments will be set forth in a separate definitive agreement approved by or agreements approved by the applicable governing bodies.

6:02:47

Correct.

6:02:48

And then there's also another section towards let me see, section 10 where it says no obligations.

6:02:56

And it can you kind of read a little bit on that one as well.

6:03:00

Bear with me for a second.

6:03:04

Yes, this MOU does not create an obligation or future appropriation obligation for any party.

6:03:11

Nothing in this MOU shall be construed to create joint and several liability among part among the parties.

6:03:20

Each party shall remain solely responsible for its own financial commitments as approved by its respective governing body.

6:03:29

So this is a vehicle to navigate those conversations of what is it that we could essentially do and secure additional funding, is that correct?

6:03:37

That is correct.

6:03:38

Great.

6:03:38

No, um I do have another question.

6:03:41

I think that you know essentially could create also um misunderstanding in regards on uh slide number 11.

6:03:50

It talks about local and sponsor funding required.

6:03:55

And it says require local match.

6:03:57

And I know that you've said that.

6:03:59

This MOU does not create any allocation of funding for the construction of this project.

6:04:06

Can you share a little bit more about what this six million dollars where it says local and sponsorship required local matches?

6:04:14

Sure.

6:04:15

So uh because this is federal funding, uh federal funding traditionally requires a 20% match.

6:04:21

Uh and so that's why the that six million is there.

6:04:25

It does not mean that that automatically comes out of the general fund.

6:04:29

It just is something that we need to assign uh funding that could come from us, it could come from the county, could come from the Duckport Foundation.

6:04:38

Yeah, and and I think it's important to highlight that because I know that you shared that.

6:04:41

It doesn't mean that the six million dollars is coming from the general fund of the city of O Paso.

6:04:46

Is that correct?

6:04:47

That is correct.

6:04:48

Okay, yeah, thank you for clarifying that.

6:04:50

I know that um again it's it's the partnership and us working essentially with the foundation or the county uh could help bring that 20% requirement in order for us to seek those grants.

6:05:03

But again, I just wanted to make it clear that on this specific presentation that six million dollars does not mean that it's coming from the general fund and it's not an expenditure that's coming from the that we're not voting on that.

6:05:14

That is correct.

6:05:15

That's what you'll see in parentheses pending approvals.

6:05:18

Perfect.

6:05:18

Okay.

6:05:19

I have no further questions.

6:05:20

I just wanted to clarify that again uh for the public that when they see this presentation, it doesn't mean that we're allocating the six million dollars, and we're not taking a vote today on allocating funding for the actual project or construction or commitment to constructing the project.

6:05:35

That is correct.

6:05:35

All right, thank you, Ian.

6:05:36

Thank you, Come to Mr.

6:05:38

Representative Limon.

6:05:43

Relax.

6:05:45

Take a deep breath.

6:05:49

Thank you, Ian, for the presentation.

6:05:51

I have a whole lot of questions.

6:05:53

I want to try to stay in line.

6:05:56

Starting off with page number four, who does what?

6:06:01

When it says um the city is responsible and keeps tunnel and safety responsibilities.

6:06:08

Is that true with or without this deck park?

6:06:13

Or is it only if there is a deck park?

6:06:16

Only if there is a deck park.

6:06:17

Very good.

6:06:18

Do we have any any idea the cost related to keeping a tunnel and safety responsibilities if there is a deck park on board?

6:06:27

Uh so I don't know that we have an exact number.

6:06:35

The only number that we looked at was actually comparing another municipality and not what would be uh created here.

6:06:42

We were looking at Dallas, and when we called to verify those costs, they were at about 3.8 million.

6:06:50

3.8 million to keep the tunnel and the safety responsibilities, and that's for a year or for a lifetime?

6:06:58

Annually.

6:07:02

Okay, thank you.

6:07:04

Um as I look at the county of El Paso, there is absolutely no indication of funding at this point in time, right?

6:07:13

Is that correct?

6:07:14

So I I believe they've committed one million dollars to the project.

6:07:19

We haven't confirmed where that will go yet.

6:07:22

Okay.

6:07:23

They committed, but I don't believe that that is in place, that they would even have uh be able to support it.

6:07:33

Future proofing is 43 million dollars.

6:07:38

Um it's interesting how on page six, the operational and financial points.

6:07:46

There's an indicator here that financial exposure is limited when it comes to perhaps the part of the city.

6:07:54

And yet we just realize that there could be a $3.8 million expenditure on an annual basis.

6:08:07

On page 7, if fundraising goals are not met, the city of El Paso retains the option to switch operators.

6:08:16

How difficult or how easy is it to find an operator?

6:08:22

I don't believe we've done this kind of project before, so I'm not well equipped to say.

6:08:28

Okay, hard to say.

6:08:29

Um, page eight, the city of El Paso will maintain long-term obligations independent of the park operators.

6:08:36

This seems this um statement seems to come up.

6:08:40

This will be like the third time that it shows up.

6:08:43

And it says, of course, the city will be responsible for the tunnel systems and the life safety infrastructure.

6:08:50

Three times on the MOU, or at least what we're seeing here as far as that.

6:08:55

I want to go to page 11 because I really want to understand this.

6:09:01

So far, the city has secured two and a half million through community project funding, and the MP MPO has allocated 20 million dollars for the future proofing of the project.

6:09:15

Is that correct?

6:09:16

That's correct.

6:09:17

22 point five million dollars are there.

6:09:21

And like Representative uh Rocha stated, this money is non-transferable.

6:09:27

In other words, it couldn't be put to another project.

6:09:30

It remains solidly for this.

6:09:32

If it's not used, then it's retained back by the MPO.

6:09:37

That is correct.

6:09:38

Correct.

6:09:39

The required local match is six million dollars.

6:09:45

Um has that been raised already?

6:09:50

The six million, the local match?

6:09:53

Uh so no it's still pending approval.

6:09:55

So we would come back to once we identify a source.

6:09:59

Okay, so right.

6:10:00

So money has been committed by TERS 5.

6:10:03

So do we know how much?

6:10:05

I believe it's 250,000 for the first CPI.

6:10:09

250,000 out of $6 million.

6:10:14

That is correct.

6:10:15

Correct.

6:10:17

Do we have a deadline for when this local match needs to be reached?

6:10:26

Yes, that is October when we need to enter into an advanced funding agreement with TechStar.

6:10:32

Okay.

6:10:34

Probably earlier than that, no?

6:10:36

Because we would need to come up with a response probably a little bit earlier than that.

6:10:41

Okay, then we go into additional sponsor contribution.

6:10:44

You said that uh Congresswoman Escobar has committed to $3 million, and then you said there was also a writer.

6:10:54

Would that equal $14.5 million?

6:10:57

So the writer that we are pursuing is for $25 million.

6:11:01

25 million.

6:11:04

When would we get a response or a um a decision on it, whether it was obtained or not?

6:11:12

That would be in May of next year, 2027 at the end of the legislative session.

6:11:18

So really we can't even count on that money.

6:11:22

In the sense that our deadline is October.

6:11:27

That's six months away.

6:11:29

What I'll say is uh it is our understanding that if we identify a different source of funding for the gap, if we do get that writer, we can swap the funds out.

6:11:41

Okay, if we get that.

6:11:43

But without even looking at that, we are six million dollars short, and we have six months in which to raise that money.

6:11:52

That is a simple way.

6:11:55

And then beyond that, we need it says here another 20 million dollars that are needed.

6:12:06

Is that to fully fund the construction of the deck park?

6:12:11

No, just the future proofing component.

6:12:14

Just the okay.

6:12:18

What is the total price or the total cost estimated on the DIC park?

6:12:29

207 million for the PAN?

6:12:31

We don't have a cost until we actually go through the design.

6:12:34

So we've been very hesitant to publicly have those discussions and conversations.

6:12:39

Um, as we talked about earlier in this presentation, we begun the design for the structural piece.

6:12:45

We're trying to secure the funding for uh the amenity design.

6:12:50

Once the amenity design is done, I think that that gives us a good sense of what those costs and expenses are.

6:12:57

I think that throwing around numbers that we're not sure of.

6:13:00

I don't want to have counsel believing that anything other than the numbers that would be um hard and fast to the construction documents would be the number that we would be working towards.

6:13:11

Thank you.

6:13:12

Because the number surely has fluctuated out in the community from 207 to possibly like 415 million.

6:13:22

We don't know.

6:13:23

We won't know until much later on.

6:13:27

What happens if we do not enter into an MOU?

6:13:32

If we do not enter into an MOU, then it becomes more challenging to coordinate with our partners on this project.

6:13:42

Are we driving the bus or are the partners driving the bus?

6:13:46

In other words, I would say the purpose of the MOU is to establish that we're all working together.

6:13:51

Okay.

6:13:52

But in in essence, who is the city the one that's saying this we must have, this is our once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

6:14:01

It's now or never, we deserve it.

6:14:03

Is the city saying that, or is someone else saying that?

6:14:07

So what I would say is the council always has the option to stay in this project or or leave the project.

6:14:15

Council would never be taking direction.

6:14:18

Okay.

6:14:18

If that makes sense.

6:14:19

So really, in order for this project to in order for the city to undertake this project, it would take a council that would support this fully, understanding the financial burden that it could bring to the community for future years.

6:14:40

That is correct.

6:14:41

Thank you.

6:14:42

Thank you.

6:14:43

I think I've almost run out of time.

6:14:45

I'll come back the next round.

6:14:47

Thank you.

6:14:50

Thank you, Ian.

6:14:51

And uh I also have a couple of questions.

6:14:54

I think my question is going to be more for Ms.

6:14:55

Mack, unless you're uh able to answer it.

6:14:59

Ms.

6:15:00

Mack, I I understand that you've had several meetings regarding this project.

6:15:04

Is that correct?

6:15:06

Yes, ma'am.

6:15:07

And there's been a lot of commentary.

6:15:08

There were some this morning that talked a little bit about this project specifically benefiting only a small amount of people in our city.

6:15:17

Has it been your opinion in all of those meetings that you've taken that this project is solely to benefit just a handful or a few number of people in our community?

6:15:29

No.

6:15:29

And we included in our most recent community survey, just some analysis, understanding how people are enjoying our current downtown.

6:15:38

And so people see our downtown as one of the areas that promote entertainment and uh cultural uh benefit for the entire city.

6:15:47

And so just based on how we're seeing people utilize, I think we can uh certainly conclude that if we were able to achieve this project, that people would certainly see it as a benefit and an add to the quality of life.

6:15:59

I think most of the discussion, as as most of you know, is about how do we get there in terms of terms of funding it.

6:16:06

Uh the action that council did take previously was to direct staff uh to pursue uh funding for this project on the uh federal and state level, and so we've continued to do that work.

6:16:20

And earlier on a different agenda item, we talked about lighting and how it affected the usage of a park.

6:16:26

And I know that you also collect data on different events that occur downtown.

6:16:30

Can you maybe talk a little bit about what that data shows?

6:16:33

Sure.

6:16:34

So what we're seeing is um huge growths in the amount of participation that we're seeing in our two existing parks in a downtown area.

6:16:44

Um, our preliminary information that we're seeing come out of our parks master plan is showing that our larger park areas that we're calling community parks are really considered our gathering spaces and are really um almost overutilized in terms of people being able to interact and engage and take uh advantage of our wonderful weather.

6:17:04

So our assumption is if we had additional parks and areas or parks that were well lit and available to people uh throughout our city that they would take advantage of that.

6:17:13

And for example, in Winterfest, um I know that we saw record numbers of people attending that event throughout the the weeks that we uh had it.

6:17:23

And I know that we also determined where those people were visiting from.

6:17:27

Do you recall what areas of the city people came to Winterfest from?

6:17:31

We have it by zip code.

6:17:33

I know we had participation for almost every zip code.

6:17:36

I don't have the detail working down.

6:17:38

Okay.

6:17:38

I remember seeing something like that because I know that some people have said that this park would really only benefit the people that live close close to downtown, but I believe that in Winterfest we had visitors from all over the city of El Paso coming downtown to enjoy that that festivity.

6:17:53

That's correct.

6:17:55

And and you know, I talk about that because uh I know that other uh colleagues here on council have have touched on this, that you know um our city is growing, it's very big, and there are people that want to enjoy different parts of our city for different reasons.

6:18:12

We have families, uh, we have people that have moved back to our community from bigger cities, um, and and we are also in the process of expanding our downtown convention center.

6:18:25

Um there's a just a lot of things that are happening, and this is an opportunity just to see if this project could come to fruition.

6:18:32

Um so we want to give this a chance by um you know going into this MOU and seeing if we can fundraise the money without burdening the taxpayers, as many of us have already stated on the dais today.

6:18:47

So this is uh the intention of seeing where the funding could come from, uh allowing others to know that we could partner with them without burdening taxpayers.

6:18:58

So thank you, Ian, for the presentation.

6:19:00

I will now go back to District 3, Representative Rocha.

6:19:05

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

6:19:06

And only because you asked about the attendance.

6:19:09

Um according to the data that I have, uh Southwest University Park season had about has about 282,000 visitors per season.

6:19:19

The highest zip codes come from 36, 38, and 12.

6:19:23

Winterfest brings about 448,000 visitors, and they have the same area codes that come from uh those area codes to Winterfest.

6:19:35

And then opening night for Winterfest is a little under 55,000 visitors, and that includes 3638 and 24 area codes or zip codes, excuse me.

6:19:46

So I just want to um just share that since you're asking.

6:19:50

Thank you, Representative.

6:19:51

You're welcome.

6:19:52

Rocha.

6:19:53

Representative Fierro.

6:19:58

Thank you so much, and thank you for sharing those numbers.

6:20:00

I was gonna I was gonna read some of them.

6:20:02

But no, what's amazing about those numbers is Ian, and please correct me if I'm wrong.

6:20:08

That doesn't include any Mexican visitors, people who come over here from Juanas to come to enjoy all those great events that Representative Rocha just brought up.

6:20:18

I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the numbers.

6:20:20

Well the answer is very familiar with the MOU.

6:20:23

The answer is no.

6:20:23

The answer is it doesn't.

6:20:25

I was trying to shake my head.

6:20:27

Yeah, the answer is no.

6:20:28

Those are additional numbers that that we are at this time are unable to count.

6:20:33

So these are huge numbers, and and it's an opportunity for us to even increase them more by by move by someday having the opportunity to have a deck park.

6:20:44

Thank you, Mayor Botan.

6:20:47

Representative Nino.

6:20:49

Thank you, Mayor Pro Temp.

6:20:51

And I know someone briefly asked about some funding.

6:20:55

Again, this MOU is not about specifically allocating any funding towards a project, but I know it was mentioned that there was some allocation of fundings in a previous discussion on a TERS.

6:21:07

Can we, Ms.

6:21:08

Matt, can someone explain a little bit of what a TERS is for the public?

6:21:13

And I think it's just key and important.

6:21:15

The reasoning why I'm asking this is, for example, in District 5, there was a TERS, TERS number two, that help the development of a park in District 5, the East Sports Complex.

6:21:27

It's a 16 flat field complex that all of O Paso gets to use.

6:21:33

And now it's a destination, a place where a lot of families come and use and um, you know, we whole host tournaments, and we have different groups all across the nation and even from other countries come and use this specific facility.

6:21:48

But um it wasn't on you know the back of the taxpayers of O Paso, it was on this specific boundary, the TERS that helped fund phase two of the completion of this project.

6:22:00

So I just wanted to see if Mr.

6:22:01

Cortinez, can you briefly just mention what a TERS is?

6:22:05

And um I know I brought up the boundary of the TERS number five, which is what essentially helped in the previous conversation that we helped that we had, and it's specifically within the downtown area, so even then no funding has been allocated from the entire city of El Paso.

6:22:24

Correct.

6:22:25

So we have several tax increment reinvestment zones, which is the TERS which you referenced.

6:22:30

We also have one existing transportation reinvestment zone currently still that is in the northeast part of town.

6:22:37

Two separate things, but both work pretty much the same way.

6:22:40

Um when they're created, um so for example, the one you referenced in the far east side for that project or for that particular tours that was created, there was a specific project.

6:22:50

We knew there was gonna be a large housing development that was gonna go up.

6:22:53

We knew there was gonna be future property valuation growth, and we knew we had a project that needed to be funded.

6:22:59

So what ended up happening?

6:23:03

And so what ends up happening is it's at the time of the creation that becomes the base value every year as you see growth either through new development, new houses, increased values, the incremental value is what stays within the zone.

6:23:17

So the existing, the base of what was there before comes to the general fund.

6:23:21

All of the incremental growth does the name tax increment reinvestment zone.

6:23:26

All of the increments stays within the zone is reinvested for specified projects approved at the time by the city council.

6:23:33

So for the one you're referencing, there was um specific project, um, as you mentioned, the fields that we did, and then also um some different additional infrastructure and such the case.

6:23:43

The downtown tax increment investment zone, I don't know the year it was created.

6:23:46

I believe it was the first one, has the downtown boundaries.

6:23:49

There have been several properties that have been excluded from that boundary as we've done different economic assetes for those particular um properties.

6:23:56

Um essentially that captures the downtown area.

6:23:59

So that additional again increment is what stays within the downtown area.

6:24:03

It's reinvested into the downtown area through various projects, uh facade improvements, downtown cleaning.

6:24:10

There's a long list of how that funding is used.

6:24:13

Um that's I guess pretty simply and so we have multiple of those.

6:24:17

Again, I think the purpose varies uh depending upon the location of those tours.

6:24:22

So we have um several of them.

6:24:25

We have the one in the downtown, we have one in the far northeast, which was done as part of the master plan community that's going up.

6:24:33

We have one at the airport, which again is sort of a forward-looking tours that we created based on the growth with the advanced manufacturing district.

6:24:42

You're gonna catch me off guard.

6:24:43

I'm gonna leave one out.

6:24:44

But I believe we only have four or five in place at the time.

6:24:47

Thank you for that.

6:24:47

And I did research it was uh TERS number five was created in December 2020, 2006.

6:24:54

It's about 288.29 acres.

6:24:58

Um and I think it's important to highlight that, right?

6:25:01

Because I know that previously the council took action formally asking the TERS number five board to take a position of um supporting the development or the conversations of these projects.

6:25:15

I know Rep canal is asked specifically to uh get that position statement.

6:25:20

Can you share a little bit about what the position of that TERS was?

6:25:25

So they had to go back to the tourist board that they were supportive of using funds from that uh fund, the terse number five to go towards the project.

6:25:33

And again, specifically that TERS is within the downtown boundary, correct?

6:25:37

Okay, I have no further questions.

6:25:38

And thank you, Robert, for answering that.

6:25:44

Thank you, Ian.

6:25:45

Thank you, Robert.

6:25:46

Um council, can I get a motion on this item, please?

6:25:52

If we don't have a motion and a second before public comment, can we get a motion?

6:25:55

I move to approve.

6:25:57

Thank you.

6:25:58

And I know we have public comment.

6:26:00

Yes, ma'am.

6:26:02

Uh the first person is Bruno Vasquez, followed by Wesley Lawrence, Robert Palacios, Matthew Guzman.

6:26:20

Good afternoon.

6:26:21

You have three minutes.

6:26:23

Thank you.

6:26:24

Good afternoon, uh Mayor Pro Temp, uh, city representatives and fellow El Pasoans.

6:26:29

My name is Bruno Vasquez.

6:26:30

I am an architect working in private practice in El Paso.

6:26:34

I serve on local, state, and national level positions within the American Institute of Architects.

6:26:39

But I am here today as a private citizen, a taxpayer, and a design professional committed to making El Paso a better place for all.

6:26:47

I have spent my career harnessing the power of design to transform spaces and make communities better places to live.

6:26:54

Not just more beautiful, but more functional, more economically resilient, and more attractive to investment.

6:27:02

This commitment drives my position today.

6:27:05

I support this MOU because it does something as straightforward and important.

6:27:10

It establishes in general terms clear lines of responsibility should this project move forward.

6:27:17

Like many of you, I have watched El Paso struggle to hold on to our best and brightest and attract investment.

6:27:23

The answer always comes back to quality of life.

6:27:26

For too long, El Paso has been told and has sometimes told itself that we don't deserve the quality investments that other cities profit from.

6:27:37

But the absence of progress is expensive too.

6:27:40

When a community fails to invest in itself, it signals to its own residents and to the world that it has stopped believing in its future.

6:27:49

So your actions today will speak loudly.

6:27:53

When I sit down with a client to talk about their project, the conversation about funding and construction cost is always the hardest.

6:28:00

I am concerned that El Paso taxpayers could end up carrying the weight of a multimillion dollar project.

6:28:07

But we need to be honest about what the alternative looks like.

6:28:10

Because contrary to what some believe, this is not a banner project.

6:28:14

It's a way to grow our city's economy.

6:28:17

Without a structured public-private partnership, without local governments showing up as credible, committed partners, there are no state dollars, no federal grants, and no private investment to pursue.

6:28:30

This MOU is the foundation that makes fundraising possible.

6:28:35

And this is not just rhetoric.

6:28:37

We have seen what happens in El Paso when a project gets derailed before it gets off the ground.

6:28:42

We're still having this conversation years later, still wondering what might have been while we look at partially demolished buildings in Durangito, my uh uh business neighborhood.

6:28:53

The IT widening project is happening.

6:28:56

We're going to endure years of construction with or without the deck plaza.

6:29:01

We have a responsibility to take advantage of this opportunity.

6:29:05

I encourage you to move forward with this MOU, not as a leap of faith, but as an action plan rooted in sound urban design principles, supported by a serious feasibility process, and now being advanced through a governance structure that asks the right questions about responsibility and accountability.

6:29:24

Thank you very much.

6:29:26

The next speaker is Wesley Lawrence.

6:29:28

Mr.

6:29:29

Lawrence Star 6, please to unmute your telephone.

6:29:33

Wesley Lawrence.

6:29:37

Good afternoon.

6:29:38

You have three minutes.

6:29:39

Yes.

6:29:41

Thank you.

6:29:41

Good afternoon, Council.

6:29:43

Um I started off by saying thank you, Representative Lamont for probably the audience representative who understands what's going on and is keeping taxpayers responsibilities in mind.

6:30:00

Democrats, independents, republicans, and the every Alpasswin all can agree that we do not need a downtown debt park.

6:30:04

And I think for the most part, we can all agree that a lot of us in this community feel like this MOU will eventually somehow turn into an IOU.

6:30:12

We do not want a deck park here in El Paso.

6:30:16

What we do want is our city to focus on the priorities that have been put in place.

6:30:21

Fixing our dilapidated streets, investing in economic development for small and local businesses that feel like they've been left out of the equation by our city government.

6:30:30

We want our animal cruelty problem addressed.

6:30:34

We want to make sure that we have safe and complete streets that do not redline members of our community.

6:30:41

But most importantly, I think we want a government that we can trust.

6:30:44

And that is something we've been lacking for quite a while now.

6:30:48

I think if the oligarchs really want this downtown vet park, then they should pay for it.

6:30:55

And we do not need an MOU for these rich people to try to take advantage of our city.

6:31:00

Let them do it.

6:31:01

If they think they can afford it, great.

6:31:03

Put their money where their mouth is.

6:31:04

Just like every day, working citizens here in El Paso are doing, struggling with pay our sky high property tax bills, struggling to put food on their table, struggling to put gas in their gas tanks.

6:31:14

Here we are again talking about a deck park.

6:31:18

Again, just thank you, Representative Lamone, for your hard work and dedication into ensuring that seniors and hardworking El Pasuans are not put last.

6:31:28

And to everyone else, I hope that if this deck park comes into fruition that taxpayers do not forget that this debt that you're going to burden onto us somehow, maybe not with this MOU, but eventually council is going to say let's spend millions and millions of dollars on these projects, so let's take over maintenance.

6:31:45

Hopefully we can find it, because that is where we're heading.

6:31:48

Thank you.

6:31:49

The next speaker is Robert Balacios.

6:31:53

Robert Palacios, if you're in the queue, star six.

6:31:58

I don't see that number in the queue.

6:32:00

Matthew Guzman.

6:32:02

Star six, please.

6:32:06

Matthew Guzman.

6:32:07

Go ahead, sir.

6:32:08

You're you have three minutes.

6:32:11

There's a lot of people in El Paso who choose to type in all caps online, and when they approach the microphone at these city council meetings, um, you know, they they come in hot yelling at everyone.

6:32:23

And it's because they're passionate, uh passionately in opposition of the deck park.

6:32:28

Um, but they're the same people who were in opposition at the ballpark and all the previous quality of life projects.

6:32:34

Um, but I want you all to know that there's a lot of us who are equally passionate and we're in favor of it, and we also want to feel heard.

6:32:41

Um, as a resident of Sunset Heights, um, I want to share something that I heard from one of my community members just yesterday uh when we were having a discussion about the deck park and other quality of life projects.

6:32:51

He said, and I quote, if I look back at El Paso in the 1980s and 1990s, I'd much rather live in the 2026 version.

6:32:59

And when I try to envision what the city will look like in 20 or 30 years from now, it's clear that many of the things people once resisted are now the very things we value most.

6:33:08

I wanted to share that um because I think it's so true.

6:33:12

You know, that this city is gonna outlive all of us.

6:33:15

And if we can't leave future generations something more than paved streets and filled potholes, then in my opinion, we will have failed as a society.

6:33:23

Surely we're capable of dreaming bigger than that.

6:33:26

Surely we can promise a little bit more to the children of El Paso.

6:33:30

I'm on the steering committee for the Baraninos uh group.

6:33:33

It we're dedicated to obtaining the UNICEF child friendly city designation for El Paso, and at our last meeting, some data was shared where children under the age of 18 were asked what they wanted to see from city leadership.

6:33:45

And interestingly, they put quality of life as one of their top priorities for our city.

6:33:50

They want a city that's both livable and enjoyable.

6:33:53

They even need green walkable spaces as one of their desires.

6:33:57

The youth of El Paso are telling us they want more.

6:34:00

They want us to invest in our city.

6:34:02

And if we're not building something for them, what are we doing?

6:34:05

We have no other major quality of life projects in the works, and we've relied on the projects from 2012 from the 2012 Brock Bond to make our city more attractive to residents and outsiders.

6:34:16

And lucky for us, those leaders had vision and we're able to execute on most of it, even if they face plenty of opposition along the way.

6:34:22

So now we've got a downtown that's become to begin to come back to life.

6:34:26

And if we let that progress stall, it takes a long time to get the wheels of progress rolling again.

6:34:32

So I plead with all of you to approach your jobs with a sense of urgency.

6:34:35

We all know it's an election year and everyone's gonna be afraid to rock the boat.

6:34:39

But future generations are relying on you all and your leadership.

6:34:42

They're relying on us to envision a city with more to offer than just build potholes.

6:34:47

So these projects come to the forefront.

6:34:49

Let's envision a better future for them and let's build something better for our kids.

6:34:52

Thank you.

6:34:53

The next speaker is Monique Passinger.

6:34:57

Moni Posinger, if you're in the queue.

6:35:00

Star six.

6:35:03

I don't see that number in the queue.

6:35:05

Nicole Reese.

6:35:11

And Ms.

6:35:12

Reese is a final speaker on this item.

6:35:16

Good afternoon.

6:35:17

You have three minutes.

6:35:18

Thank you.

6:35:20

Good afternoon, Mayor Pro Tem and City Council representatives.

6:35:23

My name is Nicole Reese, and I have uh been leading public engagement efforts for the Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation.

6:35:30

And so we've been at uh we've been meeting the community where they are at, and we've been going to chalk the block, we were at Minor Palooza, we were at Winterfest, we were at El Paso Marathon's Health Expo.

6:35:44

Uh we were just at Florafest this past Saturday at UTEP, and uh El Pasoans are signing up to support this project.

6:35:52

And so I'm be I'm I'm standing here uh today to speak on their behalf.

6:35:57

Again, hundreds of El Pasuans are signing up to support this once in a generation opportunity.

6:36:03

Um we just recently launched the Elevate the 10 campaign uh and um to continue the momentum to reclaim 6.5 acres of public space and turn it into a free highly activated public park for the community to enjoy.

6:36:21

Uh yesterday you saw uh county commissioners court, they took action to approve this MOU for most of my career uh in the public sector.

6:36:30

Um seeing the collaboration among our federal partners, our state delegation, the city, the county, the El Paso MPO, and the private sector is truly incredible.

6:36:42

Um, and we can accomplish so much if we work together.

6:36:46

So thank you for your time.

6:36:49

That concludes public comment.

6:36:52

Thank you, Ms.

6:36:53

Prime.

6:36:53

Uh, we have a motion and a second, and no further discussion.

6:36:56

Oh, excuse me, Representative.

6:36:58

Yes, ma'am.

6:37:00

Thank you.

6:37:07

It it's always interesting to hear um comments, and how especially difficult it is when numbers are twisted around.

6:37:19

We just heard a conversation about winter fest bringing in 448,000 people, but we don't equate it to what the deck park is asking for.

6:37:34

The desk deck park is asking for a park.

6:37:37

Um, and so the numbers that we've shared are not in sync with what's being asked today.

6:37:46

I had the opportunity to meet with my community, and we developed a strategic plan months before the city developed our own plan.

6:37:57

And when we discussed quality of life, quality of life means what it looks like when you open your front door, your sidewalk, your streets, safety, lighting, those to my community is what's important.

6:38:18

We have been blessed with some beautiful parks that are extremely well maintained, and so the idea that the community needs to leave their community to find a green space is outrageous, and I would think that there are similar parks throughout the city because parks and recreation does an outstanding job of maintaining our parks.

6:38:47

It saddens me to hear the idea that there's nothing to do in El Paso, and yet if you would only look at the weekly notices that our public information office puts out.

6:39:04

There are weekends where there are so many things to do that we just can't make it to all of them.

6:39:13

We are blessed in this city to have that variety, and if the goal is to entertain a small group of people, that's not what we're in the business for.

6:39:35

I can read the votes.

6:39:36

This is gonna be a seven to one vote, no doubt about it.

6:39:42

But I've listened to my community.

6:39:44

I don't rely on social media for numbers, but I will tell you that I have yet to find one person, one in my community that has come and spoken to me or sent me a message.

6:40:00

Not one that would be in support of this.

6:40:04

Person to person communication, whether it be before mass, after mass, at breakfast, in the community, wherever.

6:40:16

And the comment is consistent.

6:40:19

We don't need this.

6:40:22

We don't want this.

6:40:23

We don't want our tax dollars to go up.

6:40:27

We don't want our utilities go up.

6:40:29

This is a community that's looking at quality of life, the quality of life that's right outside our front door.

6:40:37

This is not a community that's saying, entertain me.

6:40:40

I want to have fun.

6:40:42

I want to do things.

6:40:43

This is a community that has worked very hard, and I have lots of young people in this community, but there's many, many things to do in our city.

6:40:51

Many, many things to do in our community community.

6:40:55

This MOU may not bind the city financially today.

6:41:01

But it binds us to a naive, unrealistic dream.

6:41:07

This gives the taxpayers the message that we are willing to gamble their hard-earned money on something that needs a miracle to work.

6:41:20

Six million dollars, plus all of these other fundings, plus twenty million dollars.

6:41:28

I'm sorry, but I cannot in good conscience support this.

6:41:35

With the passage of this MOU, this council is writing a blank check for future councils to carry the financial responsibility for years to come.

6:41:48

And so my vote is a resounding no.

6:41:55

Representative Rocha.

6:41:57

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

6:41:58

And I'm I'm only going to um and and I appreciate your comments, Replimon, but I but I will say that we share a neighborhood association in Seattle Vista Neighborhood Association.

6:42:11

I did receive a letter of support from the Sea La Vista Neighborhood Association, which is also part of your district.

6:42:18

So I just want to be sure I I know that they took part in your strategic plan, but that is still part of your your district, if I'm not mistaken.

6:42:26

And so I did receive that letter of support from them.

6:42:29

Just for the record.

6:42:30

Yes, ma'am.

6:42:34

Ms.

6:42:34

Prime, please call for the vote.

6:42:36

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Canale, seconded by alternate mayor Pro Temp Piero to approve the resolution on item 32 on that motion.

6:42:44

Call for the vote.

6:42:53

In the voting session, and that motion passes 7 to 1.

6:42:57

Representative Limon voting nay.

6:42:59

The remainder of council voting aye.

6:43:01

The motion carries.

6:43:02

Thank you, Ms.

6:43:02

Prime.

6:43:03

Let's take item 33, please.

6:43:04

Item 33 is discussion in action on the award of task order number 10A-1 for solicitation 2025-0087.

6:43:13

Horizontal on-call Cedar Grove Improvements to MSTAR LLC for a total estimated award of 1.6 million dollars.

6:43:26

Good afternoon.

6:43:28

Good afternoon, uh Javier Acosta.

6:43:30

Good afternoon, Mayor Pro Time and City Council.

6:43:33

Good afternoon, Javier.

6:43:34

Welcome.

6:43:34

Thank you.

6:43:35

Thank you.

6:43:35

Good seeing you all.

6:43:37

Um Javier Acosta for the record from Capital Improvements.

6:43:41

There we go.

6:43:42

Can I get a motion on this item first?

6:43:45

Motion.

6:43:47

And then we'll see your presentation.

6:43:48

Thank you, Javier.

6:44:05

Will you bring up the presentation for item 33, please?

6:44:14

Okay, we're ready.

6:44:16

Good afternoon again.

6:44:18

Uh good to see you all.

6:44:19

Um I'll be going over this project.

6:44:22

This is uh one that Messi Verhernandez had spoken about earlier in her mid-year review.

6:44:27

This is Cedar Grove Improvements.

6:44:30

Uh, this project uh location is uh Cedar Grove Subdivision in District 3.

6:44:36

Total budget is 1.8 million.

6:44:38

Funding sources are the 2013 Street Infrastructure Investment Interest Fund, the 2017 Capital Plan Interest Fund, and the 2018 Capital Plan Investment Interest Fund, and also as Yvonne mentioned, El Paso Water Funds.

6:45:00

So the project details, it's very well documented that there's deteriorating roadway conditions in that area in those specific areas, surface depressions, uneven pavement.

6:45:08

The GeoTech report did uh verify this with heavy clay soils in the area that were attributed to these failures.

6:45:17

Cameras also revealed these failures within the storm drain systems as well that contributed to these roadway issues.

6:45:25

The project location is in the Cedar Grove subdivision.

6:45:29

The nearest uh major intersection is Midway and Loop 375.

6:45:33

Uh Riverside High School is uh south of this area.

6:45:37

So there's those four locations located there in green.

6:45:41

There's uh pictures of the existing conditions of the roadways, South Carolina Drive and Aspen Road.

6:45:50

The scope of work uh includes storm drain repairs, uh which would be storm drain inlets, manholes, uh soil remediation, pavement and base course repairs, uh, replacement of ADA sidewalks and driveways, and the procurement method would be uh through task order under item 10a through the horizontal on call construction contract, and the recommendations to award the construction contract to Amstar in the amount of 1.6 million.

6:46:20

Uh the construction schedule started summer 2026 and the end of fall 2026.

6:46:28

That concludes the presentation.

6:46:31

Thank you, Javier.

6:46:32

Representative Rocha.

6:46:35

Thank you, Mayor Pro Teman.

6:46:36

Thank you, Javier, for the presentation.

6:46:38

I'm very grateful this is finally coming to this point.

6:46:42

This is something that the neighborhood has been expecting.

6:46:45

Obviously, there's a lot more down in that in that neighborhood that needs to be reconstructed, unfortunately.

6:46:52

But this is uh a heck of a start.

6:46:54

I will say I'm very happy that the dip on Carolina and Aspen is getting fixed.

6:47:00

I drive that every week, delivering the pet pantry food to Vallabajo off of 375.

6:47:07

And the neighbors always have something to say about about that particular dip.

6:47:13

So I'm really looking forward to this.

6:47:15

Um I I thank you for bringing it to council today, and and I hope that we can get everybody to approve the award.

6:47:22

Thank you.

6:47:23

Thank you.

6:47:25

Thank you once again, Javier.

6:47:27

Ms.

6:47:27

Pine, we have a motion on the second and no further discussion from council.

6:47:31

Can you please call for the vote?

6:47:32

Yes, a motion was made by Representative Maldonado Rocha, seconded by alternate mayor Piero to award the task order on item number 33 on that motion.

6:47:42

Call for the vote.

6:47:49

In the voting session.

6:47:51

And that motion passes unanimously.

6:47:55

Ms.

6:47:56

Prine, I think we've made it to our last item, number 34.

6:47:59

That is correct.

6:48:00

Item 34 is a discussion in action on a resolution that the city manager or designee be authorized to effectuate a budget transfer to number one allocate quality of life investment interest for the zoo portfolio identified projects to meet association of zoos and aquarium AZA standards, Asia Forest Complex, and South American Pavilion, and transfer from project savings for sea lion exhibit upgrade.

6:48:26

Number two, to allocate quality of life investment interest to Armijo Library, Clarity Fox Library, Doris Van Doren Library, Memorial Park Library, and Sergio Troncoso Library, and number three to transfer project savings to Donaffin Drive and Bird Avenue and Donafan Drive and West Green Avenue traffic signalization projects.

6:49:01

Can we see the presentation?

6:49:08

Good afternoon again.

6:49:09

Thank you, Javier.

6:49:10

Javier Acosta for the record again, capital improvements.

6:49:14

This is another good example of the collaboration with Robert Cortina's group as far as getting some of these projects and being strategic about how we use our funds.

6:49:26

Agenda item 34 requests approval to reprogram existing dollar investment interest and document project savings without incurring new debt.

6:49:34

These transfers focus on community-facing assets and safety critical infrastructure aligning directly with our strategic plan pillars.

6:49:43

The first item on the budget transfer request is for the El Paso Zoo, which aligns with the infrastructure pillar, enhancing community pride through cleanliness, maintenance, and beautification of public spaces, where the focus area of maintaining what we have first.

6:50:00

So the zoo portfolio will be included in this as a sea line pool repairs, the Asia Forest Skylight Roof Replacement, the South American pavilion improvements, and the zoo-wide improvements with the AZA requirements.

6:50:13

The C line pool repairs, the reason for the budget increase is to cover construction costs for and also for procuring material testing, and also for our CID construction managers and inspectors to oversee the project throughout for throughout the construction phase for our quality control and assurance.

6:50:32

The general scope of work is to remove the existing concrete coatings and repair concrete cracks in the C line pool areas with uh flexible component epoxy membrane.

6:50:44

The repairs, the available budget is 84,000.

6:50:47

The budget increase request is for 62,000, and the new total budget is 146,000.

6:50:55

All of these are in district two for the zoo, and the funding sources of quality of life project savings.

6:51:00

I I did hear what Mr.

6:51:02

Acevelo said about the project budgets on these, and and we'll make sure to verify these once we get back to the office and get we'll get you those verification on those.

6:51:15

Um he brought it up before I thought he would eventually none this uh city manager's office.

6:51:20

Um so the difference, sorry, I didn't do the math quite quickly in my head up here.

6:51:26

Um so much to your point, Representative Nino, on the mid-year, we do not report out projects that were completed.

6:51:33

So what you saw was the budget for South American Pavilion phase two.

6:51:39

It didn't include phase one.

6:51:41

Since we're doing a budget transfer into this project, we reported both phase one and phase two in this budget transfer.

6:51:48

That was the difference.

6:51:50

Thank you, sir.

6:51:54

Thank you, Yvette.

6:51:55

Um here's a look at the existing conditions for the sea line.

6:51:59

And I did confirm with uh the assistant zoo director Lunsford that there is a separate holding site for the sea line, so they should have a place where they are at while this is doing construction.

6:52:14

Basel Asia for skylight roof replacement.

6:52:17

The reason for this budget increase is additional funding due to increased construction costs exceeding the original construction budget.

6:52:25

The scope of work for this is the fiberglass translucent roof system, including gutters and down spots, uh new fiberglass translucent roofing panels and gutters for that roof, and also paint for the existing structural metal framing and the louvers.

6:52:42

The available budget for this 691,000, the budget increase request is 220,000.

6:52:50

The new total budget is 911,000.

6:52:54

Here's a look at the translucent roof, the existing conditions, and also that metal frame that's gonna have uh paint and the lures.

6:53:04

The South American pavilion improvements, the reason for the budget increase for this is the additional funding uh required to provide aquatic life support and filtration system components required for the proper operation of both aquariums, and the scope of work, uh rainforest themed aesthetic upgrades, lighting and signage improvements, drainage enhancements, and exhibit modifications, including uptaining updated tank systems and removal of outdated structures.

6:53:34

The available budget is 2.1 million, the budget increase request is 206,000, and the new total budget will be uh a little bit under 2.4 million.

6:53:47

Here's a look at the existing conditions, the tank equipment, the aesthetic features, and the existing structures for the zoo-wide improvements and aquariums for the AZA accreditation, the reason for the budget increase is the funding required for the improvements to the facility infrastructure to meet the standards of the AZA accreditation, the scope of work, zoo-wide improvements that include our earthwork site grading, asphalt pavement, replacement of exhibit guardrails and handrails, and modification to bridge approaches and concrete work.

6:54:25

So available budget is 43,000, the budget increase will be 805,000.

6:54:31

The new total budget is 850, just a little under 850,000.

6:54:37

Here's a look at the existing conditions for the pavement.

6:54:44

And the request for action is that the city manager designee be authorized to effectuate the budget transfers from the zoo balance and project savings investment interest funds in support of allocating additional funds to the four projects.

6:55:00

The Asia Forest Roof, the C line exhibit, the South American Pavilion, and the zoo-wide improvements.

6:55:04

And that concludes my presentation.

6:55:08

Thank you, Javier.

6:55:09

Representative Ganales.

6:55:14

Is there separate presentation about the other budget transfers?

6:55:17

Yeah, that's those will be a separate presentation immediately following this one.

6:55:22

Okay, I don't have any questions about the zoo.

6:55:27

I I think we're taking one vote for all the budget transfers.

6:55:30

Is that correct?

6:55:31

I think yes.

6:55:33

So I'll I'll come back to you, Representative Canonis.

6:55:35

I'll go to Representative Acevedo.

6:55:38

Thank you, Mayor Puritan.

6:55:39

I I do have questions on the zoo.

6:55:41

Um that thank you for the clarification.

6:55:45

I think just a little bit more feedback on that.

6:55:47

Um there's two phases on there.

6:55:51

So if we could just break it down to how much was phase one and how much was phase two, so we have that clear understanding.

6:55:56

I know it's one project for the same place, but kind of like what we've done with Moldesto, it gives us an understanding of what phase one was and what phase two was.

6:56:05

So just wanted to say that.

6:56:07

Overall, um, I'm happy that we're taking these steps.

6:56:11

It's it's really been a long time coming.

6:56:14

I see that the AZA improvements for our road to AZA accreditation again, is really getting the the largest transfer, um, about $800,000, which is really needed.

6:56:29

Um I'm hoping that we can get more of a comprehensive overview of what we're doing at the zoo.

6:56:36

Um, getting background information, documentation on what we've done prior, because this has been the most comprehensive um allocation that we've done to date.

6:56:47

I think what we did with HVAC in the fall was reactive and it was absolutely needed.

6:56:52

But now I'm seeing us going toward a path of saying, okay, we're tackling this issue, this issue, this issue.

6:56:58

I want to know what we've done and what is coming, what we have left, just so we have an understanding that we have that commitment to the zoo and we know what we're spending.

6:57:08

Because overall, I did some of the of the math, and with um the allocations we're doing about 1.3 million dollars that we're adding to these different four different projects.

6:57:22

And so the total that we have at hand is about 2.9 million after we add these new allocations, we're gonna go to 4.2 million.

6:57:32

And that's big investment for the zoo, and we should be telling the public that this is what's happening, you know, especially in light of losing our accreditation.

6:57:41

This shows that we're committed to this, and and I want to have that.

6:57:44

So I just wanted to throw that out there.

6:57:45

So I appreciate that.

6:57:47

And just looking at these images on the pool repairs.

6:57:53

I I've heard different things from the community that this is just in really bad shape, and I'm really happy that we're gonna get this to a better place, especially for our sea lines that really deserve to have a good place.

6:58:05

So thank you for that, and I'm very appreciative to everything that we're doing today.

6:58:12

Okay, Javier, can we go to the next presentation?

6:58:15

Yes.

6:58:16

Thank you.

6:58:24

IT, can we have the presentation on the budget transfer?

6:58:27

Thank you.

6:58:29

So for the second budget transfer request is for the El Paso Libraries, which aligns with the infrastructure pillar enhancing community pride through cleanliness, maintenance, and beautification of public spaces with a focus of maintaining what we have first.

6:58:44

The investment interests, streets and maintenance facilities departments part prioritizes its resources for service calls that address critical building systems.

6:58:54

As a result, some maintenance needs within library facilities may be deferred to ensure high priority operational issues are addressed first.

6:59:01

CID is requesting city council approval to use investment interests accrued from the quality of life bond proposition to these funds will support maintenance and repairs that extend the facilities' useful life and help maintain welcoming spaces for the community.

6:59:15

Due to savings, we revisit these library projects, identify the highest priority items, and apply the funds that will give the greatest benefit to the residents.

6:59:23

These improvements are made at no additional cost.

6:59:28

The library portfolio that I'll go through is the Doors Van Doren, the Clarity Fox, the Memorial Library, the Sergio Trancoso, and the Armijo Library.

6:59:46

The funding source is the 2012 Quality of Life Investment Interest.

6:59:50

The general scope of work is exterior stucco repair throughout.

6:59:54

Paint exterior metal surfaces, including the doors and frames, the exterior louvers, the window edges, the metal gates, and the ballards on site.

7:00:04

Here's a look at the metal frames and the stucco that will be painted.

7:00:11

It'll be metal, the metal will be painted uniform throughout.

7:00:17

Here's another look at the conditions of the stuckle in the front door entrance.

7:00:27

For the Clarity Fox, the budget increase will be 286,000 located in District 2.

7:00:32

Again, the funding stores will be the 2012 quality of life investment interest.

7:00:37

The general scope of work is to remove and replace the four existing door through door thresholds and weather strips, improved drainage on site, and remove and replace the storefront.

7:00:49

Here's a look at the storefront that will be replaced.

7:00:57

And here's a look at the drainage issues.

7:00:59

You can see the runoff going from the landscaping to the sidewalk.

7:01:07

For the memorial library branch, the budget increase request is 463,000 located in District 2.

7:01:15

Funding sources of 2012 quality of life investment interest.

7:01:18

The general scope of work is the remove and place the existing rooftops, the metal flushing and career perimeter, and remove and replace the entire roof tile.

7:01:29

Here's a look at the units to be replaced.

7:01:36

And the roof tiles that will be replaced.

7:01:42

For the Sergio Trojan Cosa Library, the budget increase request is 462,000 in district seven.

7:01:50

The funding source is the 2012 quality of life interest, and the general scope of work is to remove and replace the existing roof throughout the facility.

7:01:59

Remove and replace the roof hatch and paint the parapets, including surface preparation.

7:02:06

Here's a look at the roof and the and the parapet.

7:02:13

Again, another look at the roof conditions.

7:02:18

For the Armijo Library branch, the budget increase request is 250,000 located in District 8.

7:02:25

The funding source is the 2012 quality of life interest.

7:02:28

The general scope of work is restroom renovation to comply with ADA standards to include design services for demo, replacement of plumbing fixtures, rerouting plumbing infrastructure and toilet accessories, upgrading light fixtures, and interior finishes.

7:02:58

And the request for action is the city manager Dexene be authorized to effectuate the budget transfers from the 2012 quality of life investment interest to the libraries mentioned in this presentation.

7:03:09

And that concludes this presentation.

7:03:11

Thank you, Javier.

7:03:12

Representative Canadis.

7:03:13

Not yet.

7:03:15

On the whole thing.

7:03:16

Okay, we have one more presentation then, and then we'll go to him.

7:03:20

Thank you.

7:03:23

Representative.

7:03:25

Thank you.

7:03:27

In looking at some of these images, is there like a maintenance department for facil these facilities that can do uh minor repair as a year goes along?

7:03:43

Yes.

7:03:44

Because I saw like some areas that need to be repainted, but I mean the door that needs to be repainted.

7:03:52

That doesn't seem like an object that needs to qualify into under something as big as this.

7:03:58

So I'm wondering if there is some maintenance money and some in the process for that.

7:04:02

Correct.

7:04:03

So there's um we have a maintenance department.

7:04:05

I think they do an incredible job.

7:04:06

Um, as you know, we have 250 facilities.

7:04:10

Um, what we have been allocated over the last couple of years is about $4 million or $4.4 million.

7:04:16

And what we have been allocating those towards have been primarily um roofs and HVACs for right now.

7:04:22

So the list that I most recently saw, like almost all of our senior centers are listed there, you know, major restrooms and ADA issues, the minor issues in terms of paint and those types of things.

7:04:33

The team certainly take um advantage of some of those opportunities to get those things done.

7:04:38

What happened with libraries is that most of these projects were um underfunded because we had so much deferred maintenance on a lot of these projects, we ended up spending a lot of the capital dollars on a lot of this infrastructure pieces.

7:04:52

And so I think the staff were very conservative in addressing all the issues because we had to get through all the projects.

7:05:00

And so Maine Libraries, you know, reopened last year, and so now the team is going back to say what are the other things that would um add life to these projects that we know would be critical for the team.

7:05:11

Uh we have uh 4.4 allocated this year.

7:05:15

I think the team actually has another $3.3 million in projects that couldn't fit within the dollars that we have.

7:05:21

We have about $66 million of deferred maintenance projects that we would need to address that I'm aware of based on the last assessment that we've done.

7:05:32

Is there um like a work order system?

7:05:36

There is.

7:05:36

So there's a work order system, and the teams prioritize that.

7:05:39

But I think as we said, what generally happens is that it becomes a life safety, something's not working, the air conditioner is broken, the you know, the uh sewage system is backed up, and those becomes a projects rather than some of the aesthetic things that like paint that we think are really important for some of our facilities.

7:05:58

We were able to build some internal capacity.

7:06:01

I don't think that Randy's here, but we've been trying to ensure that we're um adding some of that capacity to our own team, and so we brought roofers on last year, so we're not always having to go you know outside for some of that, but I think the capacity versus what we need across the system still is pretty high.

7:06:17

So they fall under streets and maintenance, and so streets is one group separate from the maintenance team.

7:06:25

So it's like almost five units with with Randy.

7:06:27

So he has the fleet.

7:06:30

Uh we have a whole facilities team that's also within his area, so they take care of all of our buildings as well.

7:06:36

Uh we also have the traffic management system.

7:06:39

Right.

7:06:39

Uh, you have the the street engineers, like we talked about the system in terms of updating that across the board.

7:06:46

Uh the street reconstruction pieces is also that team.

7:06:50

Uh, the fleet management for the entire system is also within that department.

7:06:54

Probably leaving out something, but it's mostly what's in this area.

7:06:58

And I know there's there they tend to be spread pretty thin, but I'm concerned when deferred maintenance gets to the point where we have to allocate a huge amount of money to take care of things.

7:07:13

And so as a and and you know, Deion, as a librarian, a head librarian, you ultimately become responsible for the building for the everything that's in your domain.

7:07:26

And the importance of of getting perhaps those work orders out and and raising the alarm of hey, we need to have this done, could potentially um lead to not having to expend thousands and thousands of dollars for some of those projects.

7:07:44

Generally, what would happen with these piper projects just from when I was library director, we we didn't have a way to be able to repair any of these, and so they would end up in an annual CO.

7:07:55

So, I mean, we were paying interest on it.

7:07:57

So, any of the projects that couldn't be done by the team locally, we would end up you know offering doing some type of CO for those type of projects, and so I'm really proud that the team took advantage of existing dollars, which allows us to leverage the other 4.4 that you graciously um helped us to restore some of in our last budget to really start to get to a pattern where we can address a lot of these issues.

7:08:20

A couple years ago we did do a project um we call paint and shine, and so we went out and did a lot of the painted all the the playgrounds, and so we're always thinking about things like that that we can do to enhance within the dollars that we have, but there's a lot, ma'am.

7:08:34

There's just a lot.

7:08:37

I I like that paint and shine because when we don't we don't take care of our facilities and they go down and down and down.

7:08:46

Um as a campus administrator, the last step schools when the kids were done were gone, it was to walk out the front door and walk the entire building and look at everything that needed to be done, go into every single classroom and put those all on the list and and and try to get those done.

7:09:03

You can't get them all done because the priority are going to be your clean waxed floors for the first day of school, but those items were maintained, and as a year went by, we would tackle each and every one of them to get them to the point.

7:09:19

Um, the pride of a campus is walking in, shiny floors, uh, good smelling campus, and so um that's what we were doing, and I know that's what you do with with the libraries as well.

7:09:30

So thank you for what you're doing, and we'll continue, and maybe we can do a paint and shine project pretty soon.

7:09:38

Thank you.

7:09:39

Javier, can we please see the last presentation?

7:09:42

Yes.

7:09:43

Thank you.

7:09:46

The third budget transfer request is for the Donovan traffic signals, which aligns with public safety and infrastructure pillars with the focus on key transportation planning and traffic management.

7:10:00

So the reason for the budget increase for this one is the BNSF uh traffic control requirements, working with the railroad tracks, including associated fees.

7:10:10

So here's uh an overview of the current budget setup and the budget increase and the total project budget.

7:10:16

So for Donaffin and Byrd, the current budget is 917,000.

7:10:21

The budget increase request is for 154,000 for a new total project budget of 1 million for Donaffin Drive and West Green Avenue.

7:10:32

The current budget is 1.1 million dollars with the budget increase request of 173,000, and the new total project budget of 1.3 million.

7:10:43

And again, the district one and the funding source is the 2018 C O P C P balance.

7:10:52

And you see that high cost for the traffic signals, and you see the large scope of work that goes into this, which involves demolition of the existing sidewalks, ramps, landscaping, installation of the traffic signal poles and the assembly mast arms, the traffic signals themselves, and the foundations, the day ADA ramps, the ground boxes, the sidewalks, signage and striping, excavation conduits, and of course the preemption with the coordination with BNSF.

7:11:23

So the request for action is the city manager designated to be authorized to effectuate the budget transfers from the project savings fund, PCB bonds in support of allocating additional funds to Donahan and Byrd and Donafan and Green traffic signals.

7:11:38

And that concludes this presentation.

7:11:41

Thank you, Javier.

7:11:42

Representative Canales.

7:11:44

Thank you.

7:11:44

Uh a couple of things.

7:11:46

So the both of these traffic signals, Donovan and Byrd and Donovan West Green.

7:11:51

Uh these were in district eight in 2018 when the when the COs were approved.

7:11:57

And I remember rejoicing from the you know, a rejoicing response from the neighborhoods.

7:12:03

Uh they were very excited, particularly about Donifan and Byrd.

7:12:06

Um I know that was initially held up by the pandemic, and then you know, I've then it was no longer in district eight, so I I lost track of it a little bit.

7:12:18

Um do we have now an updated timeline?

7:12:22

And again, I don't want to step on your toes, uh Mayor Pro Tem.

7:12:26

Uh, do we have an updated timeline for the neighborhoods there on when these projects can get rolled out?

7:12:31

They waited quite a long time.

7:12:32

Yeah, I'll make sure I get you a timeline for those.

7:12:35

Okay.

7:12:36

Um probably to me and to Mayor Pro Tem as well.

7:12:39

They're her constituents now.

7:12:41

Um but every once in a while I see one of them at the store or something, and they still ask me about the Donovan and particularly the Donovan and Byrd signal.

7:12:47

They're very focused on that one.

7:12:49

Um I think it was very anticipated by by the neighborhoods.

7:12:52

Um and then just uh I noticed the item is listed only as district one and district two.

7:12:58

It's a tiny thing, but Ms.

7:12:59

Prime, can we please reflect in the minutes that the projects are in District 1, District 2, District 7, and District 8?

7:13:05

Yes.

7:13:07

Um and then the sorry, I had one additional question and I lost it.

7:13:14

That's okay.

7:13:15

We're at the end of the day.

7:13:16

I don't need to ask my question.

7:13:18

Thank you very much.

7:13:22

Thank you, Javier, once again um for your presentation and for sticking it out with us till the very end.

7:13:28

We appreciate it.

7:13:28

I'll thank whoever put me at the end.

7:13:30

So thank you.

7:13:31

Thank you.

7:13:31

Thank you.

7:13:32

Okay, Ms.

7:13:33

Prime, I think we have a motion and a second.

7:13:35

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by alternate mayor pro tempiero to approve the resolution on item 34 on that motion, call for the vote in the voting session.

7:13:49

And that motion passes unanimously.

7:13:55

It's been a long day.

7:13:56

Make a motion to your motion and Mayor Partem.

7:14:01

I I have one one quick question before we do that.

7:14:04

Um without uh without objection, I'd like to ask that a transcript of my comments on item 32 be added to the meeting minutes.

7:14:16

Yes, please send those transcripts to my office so we can include that with the minutes.

7:14:20

We will thank you.

7:14:21

And before we adjourn, I just want to thank everyone for your cooperation these last two days in absence of our mayor.

7:14:28

I know we wish him well in his graduation at Bloomberg.

7:14:31

Um and we look forward to seeing him back on council soon.

7:14:34

So thank you all.

7:14:34

Thank you, Ms.

7:14:35

Mack, thank you, Josette, and to the entire uh legal team as well.

7:14:39

Thank you.

7:14:39

And you did a great job presiding, thank you, Mayor.

7:14:42

There's a motion and a second to adjourn the city council meeting.

7:14:45

All in favor?

7:14:46

Aye.

7:14:46

Aye.

7:14:47

Anyone opposed?

7:14:48

And the city council meeting for Tuesday, April 14th, 2026 is adjourned at 5 24 p.m.

7:14:54

Thank you, Council, and thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

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Summary of Proceedings

El Paso City Council Meeting - April 14, 2026

On Tuesday, April 14, 2026, the El Paso City Council convened at 10:01 AM with Mayor Pro Tem Alejandra Chavez presiding. The meeting began with proclamations, followed by public comment, consent agenda, and action on multiple items including bond issuances, a memorandum of understanding for the downtown deck plaza, and various capital improvement transfers. The meeting adjourned at 5:24 PM.

Consent Calendar

  • The council approved the consent agenda (revised to delete item 11 per Representative Boyar Trejo) unanimously.
  • First reading of ordinances (items 15–19) passed unanimously.
  • Items 20–22 (property conveyances) were approved unanimously.
  • Item 23 (amending Title 12 for electronically operated parking control systems) passed unanimously.
  • Item 24 (speed zone amendment on McComb Street) passed unanimously.
  • Items 25–27 (bond issuance, refunding, and redemption) each passed unanimously.
  • Item 28 (district two discretionary funds for Pride event) passed unanimously.
  • Addition to agenda (District 7 funding for Día de los Niños event) passed unanimously.
  • Item 31 (list of projects for 2022 Community Progress Bond Proposition C) passed unanimously.
  • Item 33 (task order for Cedar Grove improvements) passed unanimously.
  • Item 34 (budget transfers for zoo, libraries, and traffic signals) passed unanimously.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Carlos Sainz (on item 14): Urged that the public health accreditation consultant address Northeast YMCA closure and community health needs.
  • Joe Gudenrath (on items 23 & 32): Expressed support for parking enforcement changes but asked that parking revenues be kept for downtown enhancements; supported the deck plaza MOU as a once-in-a-generation opportunity.
  • Leila Mayorga (on item 32): Supported the MOU, citing economic benefits and personal connection to downtown.
  • Jimena Guerrero (on item 32): Supported the MOU, emphasizing connection and inclusion of young people.
  • Carlos Sainz (on item 32): Opposed the deck plaza, calling it a "pipe dream" and urging a public vote; tied it to needed YMCA funding.
  • Ricardo Mora (on item 32): As President/CEO of the El Paso Chamber, supported the MOU, highlighting economic development.
  • Manny Rodriguez (on item 32): Supported the MOU, detailing technical elements like future-proofing and financial safeguards.
  • Joshua Ruiz (on item 32): Supported the MOU, comparing it to Klyde Warren Park.
  • Nadia Antowan (on item 32): Opposed the MOU, expressing frustration over perceived lack of public input and lack of parking.
  • Elizabeth Crawford (Call to the Public): Spoke against abortion, linking Earth Day to population control.
  • Claudia Contreras Siller: Highlighted animal cruelty, kitten overpopulation at shelter, and urged support for TNR.
  • Ron Como: Argued the city violated state health codes by not impounding stray dogs due to shelter capacity claims.
  • Selina Serrano: Voiced concern over potential YMCA closure in Northeast, noting its role for seniors, families, and low-income residents; started an online petition with 170+ signatures.
  • Leo Arcos: Detailed negotiations between YMCA and city; claimed $300,000 needed for safety repairs but building is grandfathered; urged council to work with community to keep facility open.
  • Carlos Sainz (Call to the Public): Repeated opposition to deck plaza and pleaded for YMCA to be leased for $1.
  • Julia Curtin: Supported a new nonprofit taking over YMCA operations, citing benefits for seniors and competitive swimming.
  • Wesley Lawrence: Supported a nonprofit takeover of YMCA, emphasizing community safety and youth opportunities.
  • Ivan Rosales: As a veteran and swim parent, noted loss of aquatic facilities in Northeast and urged saving the YMCA as a lifeline.
  • Jessica Kell: Supported nonprofit takeover, noting over 170 petition signatures.
  • Lola Rosales: As a senior member, pleaded for YMCA to stay open for therapy and socialization.
  • John Camacho: Advocated for high school swim teams that rely on YMCA pool.
  • Rick Alvarado: Emphasized YMCA's 60+ year history and urged council to keep it open.
  • Mike Baker: Supported YMCA, noting dollar-a-year lease issue; urged council to reconsider.
  • Esperanza Avila (Spanish): Supported YMCA, stating it serves all ages from 1 to 90.
  • Bruno Vázquez: Announced Architecture Week events, including children's workshops and 5K run.
  • Eddie Chavez: Requested progress on Montana Vista water phase 2; criticized $8,700 charge per connection.
  • Marcy Chavez: Questioned expected $8,700 charge for water pipeline in Montana Vista; criticized utility costs.
  • Aaron Morga: Questioned city's air quality and opposition to data centers and gas plants.
  • Albert Rivera: Opposed deck plaza and data center tax breaks, arguing funds should go to parks citywide.
  • Julie Alvarado: Urged council to break Chapter 380 tax agreement with Meta Data Center.
  • Mary Woodruff: Urged rejection of El Paso Electric natural gas power plant, citing health risks and water use.
  • Elisa Yamas: Opposed Meta Data Center due to water consumption (1.5 million gallons/day) and import pipeline costs.
  • Miguel Escoto (Amanecer People's Project): Called for breaking Meta deal; others spoke against data center, citing environmental and financial costs.
  • Bruno Vázquez (on item 32): Supported MOU, saying it establishes clear responsibilities and enables fundraising.
  • Wesley Lawrence (on item 32): Opposed MOU, fearing eventual taxpayer burden; called for city to focus on basic services.
  • Matthew Guzman (on item 32): Supported MOU, saying it's a quality-of-life investment for future generations.
  • Nicole Reese (on item 32): Supported MOU, citing community engagement and collaboration.

Discussion Items

  • Item 23 (Parking Enforcement): Code Enforcement Director Steve Alvarado presented amendments to allow mailed citations for parking violations, with 21-day appeal period. Future technology includes multi-space meters, license plate recognition, and improved enforcement. Council expressed support. Passed.
  • Item 24 (Speed Limits): Planner Joshua Lermo presented amendment to extend 45 mph zone on McComb Street into new residential areas. Representative Boyar Trejo noted speeding concerns and requested additional safety measures. Passed.
  • Items 25–27 (Bond Issuances): Robert Cortinas presented three actions: 1) Issuance of up to $71.14M for Community Progress Bond (voter-approved); 2) Refunding up to $435.35M to generate ~$13M in debt service savings; 3) Defeasance of $1.375M in bonds, saving $427,000. Council praised 20% debt reduction over five years. Passed.
  • Item 28 (Pride Event Funding): Approved $2,500 from District 2 discretionary funds for annual Pride event on June 27, 2026. Passed.
  • Item 29 (CIP Mid-Year Update): Ivette Hernandez presented update on capital projects: 2,551 jobs created in FY2026; $970M spent since FY2018; progress on public safety, quality of life, and community progress bonds. Council discussed project timelines and coordination with external agencies. No action.
  • Item 30 (Audit Report): Margarita Marin and Rachel Ornsby presented FY2025 audit results: 10th consecutive year with zero audit findings; clean opinions on financial statements and internal controls; city received Triple Crown award for 4th year. Council commended staff.
  • Item 31 (Proposition C Projects): Fernando Fierro presented allocation of $5.2M for solar lights, solar panels at public safety complex, and green infrastructure. Projects selected based on service requests and technical considerations. Council debated process shift from original zoo-focused plan but approved.
  • Item 32 (Deck Plaza MOU): Ian presented non-binding MOU with County and Downtown Deck Plaza Foundation to pursue future-proofing for a deck plaza over I-10. $43M needed for future-proofing; $22.5M secured, $6M local match required, $14.5M gap. MOU does not commit city funds. Council debated fiscal responsibility and community support. Passed 7-1 (Representative Limon voting nay).
  • Item 33 (Cedar Grove Improvements): Awarded task order to MSTAR LLC for $1.6M to repair storm drains, pavement, and ADA sidewalks in District 3. Passed.
  • Item 34 (Budget Transfers): Approved transfers from quality of life investment interest for zoo projects (sea lion pool, Asia Forest roof, South American Pavilion, zoo-wide improvements), library maintenance (five branches), and traffic signals (Donohue and Byrd; Donohue and West Green). Passed.

Key Outcomes

  • Consent Agenda approved with revision.
  • Parking ordinance (item 23) passed, allowing mailed citations and future technology.
  • McComb Street speed zone amendment passed.
  • Bond issuances (items 25–27) approved: up to $71.14M for Community Progress, up to $435.35M refunding, and $1.375M defeasance.
  • Deck Plaza MOU (item 32) approved 7-1; no immediate financial commitment, but establishes partnership framework.
  • Cedar Grove Improvements (item 33) awarded.
  • Budget transfers (item 34) approved for zoo, libraries, and traffic signals.
  • Public comment on YMCA closure prompted council to note they are exploring opportunities; no formal action taken.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning. Good morning, Al Paso. Buenos días, bienvenidos. I want to give a warm welcome to everyone who is joining us in Council Chambers this morning. Thank you for being here. Miss Prime. Yes, good morning, and welcome to the presentation of the mayor's proclamations. This morning we have Mayor Po Tim Alejandra Chavez present and presiding. We begin with a pledge of allegiance, and this morning to lead us in the pledge, we have students from Coach Wally Hartley PK eight school. At the invitation of City Representative Diana Maldonado Rocha, we have Paloma White Seeker, Casey Johnson, Harper Wine, Aurora Daniel, Ian Menchen, Darwin Pimentel, Vince Bernal, Valentina Castro, Alia Lyaka, Kayleigh Boo, Isabella Salas, Lux Arenas, Kaylee Queto, and Keanu Curtis. And you all for freedom. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. That brings us to the mayor's proclamations. For those of you receiving a proclamation, your group will have up to four minutes collectively to speak at the podium and receive the proclamation. After you receive the proclamation, you will be invited to take a photo with a council. The first proclamation is Sexual Awareness Month, 2026. Representative Rocha. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem Chavez. If I can have those that are here, I see them in the audience. I saw them this morning. There they are. Here we go. Thank you for coming to City Hall today. I'm going to read your proclamation. Whereas sexual violence affects individuals and families across all communities and backgrounds, causing lasting trauma and significant harm. Studies indicate that one in three women and one in six men experience some form of sexual violence in their lifetime. With many cases going unreported, highlighting the urgent need for awareness, prevention, and survivor support. And whereas the Center against Sexual and Family Violence has served the city of El Paso with comprehensive prevention, advocacy, support, and education for survivors of sexual assault and their families. Provided sexual assault services to more than one thousand survivors, and responded to over 240 hospital accompaniment calls across area hospitals. And whereas CASVI's theme, consent is loud, emphasizes the importance of clear communication, mutual respect, affirmative consent, and community accountability in preventing sexual violence. And whereas educating individuals and communities about consent, healthy relationships, bystander intervention, and equitable treatment, strength and safety, and respect across all settings. Excuse me, and fostering a culture of accountability and care. Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the mayor and council of the City of El Paso that the month of April 2026 shall be known as Sexual Assault Awareness Month, 2026, signed by the Honorable Mayor Renard Johnson. Good morning. Good morning. It's truly an honor to be here with you, representatives and mayor pro tem. My name is Sandra Navarrez Garcia, I'm the executive director to the Center Against Sexual and Family Violence. And as Ms. Rocha mentioned, sexual assault affects all individuals and affects our community, it affects our households, family members, just everyone across the board. And oftentimes it's something that we're really unprepared for. And so in our true theme, this this particular month of consent is allowed. We want to be able to emphasize that consent should be clear, it should be active, it should be ongoing, never assumed or implied. And I think those are really important words because I think oftentimes we believe that you ask once, and that's just the answer for here until the end of time. But this conversation is very much like our theme is continuous and is ongoing year after year. These are services that we provide both to individuals in the hospital, in person, on the phone, via chat, however, it is that the individual wants to access the services because we understand that it's difficult to come forward. You obviously know we're also your local domestic violence program. And I think that those individuals victimized by domestic violence are more likely to come forward and receive services, whereas our survivors of sexual assault is really more of a challenge. And so think of you know, God forbid, anyone in this room, today you're living your most normal life. Tonight something happens, and tomorrow your world has been flipped upside down.

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