The honorable council of the city of Evansville is here by called to order.

Madam Clerk, please call roll.

Councilwoman Taylor.

Present.

Councilman Horonymus.

Here.

Councilwoman Hatfields.

Here.

Councilwoman Kaylor Lindsay?

Here.

Councilman Brink Mayer.

Here.

Councilwoman Allen.

Here.

Councilman Green.

Here.

Councilman Johnson.

Here.

Councilman Chalkman.

Here.

There being nine members present, zero absent.

Representing a quorum.

I hereby declare this session of the Common Council officially open.

This evening, the pledge of allegiance will be led by the very popular this evening, Colby Jackson.

Dr.

Colby, please.

There you go.

Come on up front.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Please join me now in a moment of silence.

Fellow counselors and those in the audience.

Welcome to the May 11th, 2026 meeting of the Common Council.

Is there a motion to approve the meeting memorandum of the April 27th, 2026 meeting of the Common Council as written?

So moved.

Second.

Hearing a first and a second.

All those in favor.

Aye.

Any opposed?

So ordered.

Reports and communications.

Emailed material.

Ordinances F 2026-05 and F 2026-07.

R 2026-10, 11, 12, and 13.

Resolutions C 2026-16, 17, 18, and 19.

And on your desk this evening, extended agenda.

Is there a motion to acknowledge the reports and communications?

So hearing a first and a second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed?

So ordered.

Special orders of the day.

There are no special orders this evening.

Consent agenda.

First reading of ordinances and resolutions.

Ordinance F 2026-05 and ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Evansville, authorizing transfers of appropriations, additional appropriations, and repeal and reappropriation of funds for various city funds.

Ordinance F 2026-07.

An ordinance of the Common Council, the City of Evansville approving the community annual community development plan and appropriating community development block grant, emergency solutions grant, and home investment partnership grant program grant funds.

There will also be a finance committee meeting concerning this.

At our next meeting, which is next Monday, May 18th at 4 15 in this room.

Councillors Hatfield, Councilman Johnson, and Councilman Haronymous will be recusing themselves from this meeting.

Ordinance R, 2026-10, an ordinance to resonate certain real estate in the city of Evansville, State of Indiana, more commonly known as 501 503 East Walnut and 511 East Walnut.

Ordinance R, 2026-11 in ordinance to rezone certain real estate in the city of Evansville, State of Indiana, more commonly known as 4919 Old Boonville Highway.

Ordinance R, 2026-12 in ordinance to rezone certain real estate in the City of Evansville, State of Indiana, more commonly known as 1307 and 1311 Hitting Avenue.

And ordinance R, 2026-13, an ordinance to rezone certain real estate in the city of Evansville, State of Indiana, more commonly known as 1514 South Morton Avenue.

Is there a motion to adopt the consent agenda as written?

So moved.

Second.

Hearing a first and a second.

All those in favor?

A opposed.

So ordered.

Committee reports.

There are no committee reports this evening.

Regular agenda, second reading of ordinances and resolutions.

Ordinance G 2026-10, an ordinance of the City of Evansville approving the issuance of bonds for the Evansville redevelopment District.

Good evening, Council.

Uh Nick Siriano.

The ordinance before you today represents a refunding of bonds that we issued in 2022 that we refer to as the Evansville Vision Bonds.

Those bonds you might recall if you were around then.

They were issued in order to pay for the road improvements at Oak Grove and Burkhart Road and those and those related infrastructures.

A TIFRA that we created in that area that we refer to as the Burkhart City City TIF or the City Burkhart Road TIFF.

We have an opportunity tonight due to a development you'll hear about shortly in about five minutes, probably, um, to fund a different project in that same area.

But in order to do that, we need to obtain the release of three of the parcels that are in the Evansville Burkhart Road TIFF area in order to obtain the release of those parcels that were pledged to pay the 2022 bonds, we need to issue new bonds to repay the old bonds, and then those parcels can then be released in order to help fund the republic project that we'll hear about shortly.

So it's a refinancing to allow us to take some of the collateral out of the 2022 bond pledge to allow the republic project to move forward.

Okay, let's go back up just a little bit here.

Okay, first off, I need a motion to adopt ordinance G 2026-10.

So moved.

Second, okay.

Okay, so floor is open for comments.

I guess from the member.

Are you done, Nick?

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I had a question.

Nate, um, is this um going to be a better interest rate?

Are we getting a better deal with doing this refinancing by any chance?

I think the interest rate is actually going down slightly.

I'd love to say it was a huge windfall, but it's it's not that.

It's but it is at least a little bit lower, so we're benefiting.

Yeah, I think maybe we've shaved off maybe uh a tenth of a we'll we'll take it.

That's okay.

And it's not going to, it's not, it's definitely not higher, and I just want to check and make sure you are correct on that.

We're on that.

So how does this affect like our capacity for future bonding with doing this?

Well, so this project, this these bonds are solely relating to the Evansville Burkhart Road TIFF.

So we pledged the proceeds from that TIFF area to pay for the road improvements.

Um we're still waiting for that to completely ramp up and pay for the whole thing.

That hasn't happened yet, and that's why we need to refund these bonds.

Um, but because it's not a general obligation of the city, it doesn't impact the city's general bonding capacity.

Any other questions from council?

Any comments from the audience?

Seeing none, you take the roll.

Councilwoman Taylor, yes.

Councilman Hieronymous.

Aye.

Councilwoman Hatfield.

Aye.

Councilwoman Keller Lindsay.

Aye.

Councilman Brickmeyer.

Aye.

Councilwoman Allen.

Aye.

Councilman Green.

Aye.

Councilman Johnson.

Aye.

Councilman Truckman.

Thank you.

Oh there being nine ay's lead or nays.

Ordinance G 2020 is hereby declared adopted.

Ordinance G 2026-11 and ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana, approving a payment in lieu of taxes agreement for affordable housing project.

Is there a motion to adopt ordinance G 2026-11?

So moved.

Second.

Floor is now open discussion among council.

Colby Jackson, DMD.

So this ordinance before you tonight approves a pilot, which is a payment in lieu of taxes as the incentive for the rehab rehab of 147 apartment units, also known as Grandview Towers.

It's a housing project located at 1000 Fulton Parkway.

So for those that are unfamiliar with what a pilot is, it's just an it's a financial tool where voluntary payments are made instead of full property taxes.

So it's basically a tax abatement to help lower the tax burden and encourage investment and development.

Exhibit B, I believe, in your packet, which is exhibit B of the pilot agreement, will show that payment schedule with annual payments starting at $2,000 and it increases by 3% each year to approximately 4,700 by year 30.

The Grandview Towers project is a tax credit project, so it's administered by the IHCDA, which is the Indiana Housing Community Development Authority.

And so it is a Section 42 property, which means that it's subject to an extended use period of that 30 years, and it restricts incomes for residents who are at 60% of the area median income and below.

So if you guys uh recall, this project does have multiple incentives in it.

There is an affordable housing trust fund loan that was previously approved by the city council in the amount of 425,000, and then it will come before council again for approval of two sources of home funding regular home funding and then home ARP funding in the amount of six hundred and fifty thousand dollars total.

So I do have Sophie Cohen here tonight with us.

She is the senior associate with the development team, LM Fund Management, and she traveled all the way to Evansville from New York.

Um so I'd like to give her an opportunity to come and talk more about some of the project specifics, and then for city council to kind of ask any questions they might have regarding the project.

So I can help them with visual aids too.

Welcome to Evansville.

Thank you.

Thank you, Colby.

Sorry, I should have brought you.

That's okay.

This good perfect.

So that's our proposed um facade rendering.

Um I'm sure you're all familiar, but Grandview Towers was built in 1979, and it has never undergone a substantial rehab.

Um, serves a very vulnerable population.

The HUD contracts, in addition to it being will be placed under the tax credit program, it's an existing Section 8 property.

Um HUD pays about 80% of all rental income.

Um, so our our rehab scope, you know.

I think something that was interesting to me now just telling Colby about this on the way here, but I read through the 2025 Evansville Affordable Housing Needs Assessment, and this property is ranked amongst the lowest of 91 properties, meaning that you know it has you know severe facade deterioration, aging mechanical systems, poor curb appeal, plumbing concerns, water intrusion, all of which we plan on addressing in our scope, which is $17 million scope, which is a little bit under $100,000 per unit.

Um this is not only a cosmetic renovation, this is a substantial rehab preservation designed to modernize the property and position it for long-term success over the next 20, 30 years.

Um our scope includes um adding you know new energy star appliances, stainless steel energy tower appliances, new micro microwaves, quartz countertops, new cabinetry, new HVAC system, new energy efficient windows, sidewalk and parking lot repairs, new facade, uh new security cameras, ADA new FAS units, and accessibility upgrades, and we're upgrading the entire community area.

So we'll be adding a gym, we'll be adding a full-time resident services coordinator, a computer room, a hair salon, and emergency pendants.

Um, so in addition to the physical improvements, you know, this project includes a major investment in resident quality of life and supportive services.

Um, part of the resident services coordinator job and responsibility I just mentioned mentioned is to support residents with health and wellness programming, uh, benefits navigating, transportation coordination, nutrition services, and aging in place support.

Um the request uh the requested pilot is a critical financing tool that allows us to leverage low-income housing tax credit equity and other public-private sources to make this level of reinvestment financially feasible.

Without the pilot, it becomes nearly impossible to support the scale of rehab necessary to fully address the property's needs while maintaining long-term affordability for residents.

This project represents a major reinvestment into Evansville affordable housing stock, the preservation of senior housing, and a long-term commitment to the residents of the broader Evansville community.

Thank you.

Oh, sorry, any questions?

It's always during this rehab, um, will there be residents displaced?

No residents will be displaced.

Our rehab is gonna be a tenant-in-place rehab, which means we hire a full-time uh relocation coordinator.

That person's sole job and responsibility is to make sure that any uh temporary moves go as smoothly as possible.

So they'll be hiring um movers, they'll be helping residents pack their belongings.

Residents will be invited to go to a friend's house.

If they don't have friends or family that they can go to, they'll be invited to go to the community room.

We'll we'll be providing food and those moving services, they'll have access to running water at the end of each day, and each uh construction in each unit is expected to take seven to ten days, except for the aforementioned UFAS units, those require, you know, uh more structural reconfiguration.

So, what we do there is we will uh rehab a currently vacant unit, make it ADA accessible, and then kind of checkerboard.

So we'll move residents who are in need of a UFAS ADA unit into those units, renovate their unit, will take about four to five weeks, and then move them back, or they can choose to say if they don't want to move back.

Okay, thank you.

Any other questions or comments from council?

Yeah, finance chair.

Just kind of with the same concerns uh that counselor tailored brought up.

Um do you know what the uh occupancy of this particular uh of Grandview Tower is today?

It's 95%.

95%.

So how many units?

170 units.

Uh so what is what is that amount to?

Uh, open unit-wise.

Oh, there's about like 13 open units.

13 open units, okay.

So is that a capacity for uh helping mitigate displacement in this?

You know, because I I heard you say that if they had options to stay with friends or family, my assumption would be that those options continue to secure their space uh once it's all said and done, right?

It's not yeah, no one everyone will have access to their unit at the end of the day.

No one is being permanently displaced in this project.

Okay.

Another question, you had mentioned something about on-site services that um are being provided or will be provided as part of this.

Can you talk a little bit more about what services are there now and and after this rehabilitation, what uh improvements are gonna be there or increased services that would be provided?

Yeah, definitely.

Um I was just there today talking to the property manager.

Right now, the level of services that they provide is more around community events and organizations.

So they had a barbecue last week, which is you know, and the residents love it.

They have a big tenant organization there that actually pools money to put on these events.

Um, with our uh additional funding, we'll be providing like a full-time dedicated resident services coordinator so it doesn't fall on the property manager to be able to do, you know, maybe half of the events that she's currently doing.

Um, in addition to to what she's currently doing, I think you know, something that um is is a bit of a prevalent uh issue at the property is um you know, issues with uh you know uh drug use.

So something that we're gonna be planning on doing is you know, having this resident service coordinator specifically, you know, tailored to the needs of the residents at that project.

And from my conversation with the manager and a handful of residents today, it sounds like that will be you know help with you know uh, you know, addiction prevention, helping with um, you know, medication management, you know, Medicaid and Medicare benefits.

So while we don't have like a fully tailored plan yet and probably won't until we get on site and really interview all the residents, that's what we're thinking right now.

It's gonna entail.

So 170 units, how many residents does that amount to exactly I know there's probably a significant difference between you know maybe I don't know if there's studios in this particular property but I'm assuming there's probably one twos and threes it's all one bedroom all one bedrooms.

So I don't know the total resident count at the top of my head but I would assume it's around 170 when it's fully occupied maybe a bit more for couples.

Okay yeah and and do you think one person from a for a caseload of 170 or more is an adequate number I I find that oftentimes in housing situations like this in our communities it especially that uh when we have on-site sometimes they get into more rent collections than they actually do the social services side of it so uh and that's a large caseload right for one person especially people that have high high needs um what does the rent collections look like?

Will this person be also involved in that or is that another function administrative function of the organization we're gonna be adding additional person to the payroll so the property manager will solely and their assistant manager will solely be responsible for items like rent collection um a resident services coordinator is only dedicated to serving the residents there.

Okay thank you I want to go back to what he said I I've worked in social services for a long time and what you're talking about is wraparound care services that usually requires a master degree level higher of a social worker um because we are looking at a vulnerable population uh mentally physically um and other contributive factors I'm concerned with there being putting someone who is a resident coordinator um in an acting position of a social worker um in those situations so how are you going to mediate that because this is not a just give someone a job this is a licensed social worker care you know type place and having a hundred or so people on a um with one person is absolutely unsustainable yeah so we don't like hire someone who like comes off the street and serves the residents we hire there's a company called connected communities this is all they do they hire resident services coordinator I don't know the level of degree that they have but in our other high needs communities we've hired them they have all the back office functions to put on you know specific resident programs and and train people so they have the level of expertise that they can handle the you know the needs and wants of of a specific population and when we you know uh open the property and go through renovations and have the service coordinator I would love for you to come on site too um given your background and and speak with them and make sure that the needs and cares of the residents are being met.

Any other questions from council comments?

I might just just uh sorry um Paul um this uh unit just has someone who utilizes uh home health services with um nurses and CNAs that travel to many different places uh some of my CNAs have been and spent time in in Grandview and uh it has not been their most favorite time um and so to see that there is a level of investment and uh improving its current infrastructure and the experience for the individuals there that's a big investment uh in our community I would only have one question is the elevator going to be yes that I was just telling about that yeah um we were there on site today the elevator went out again and I've seen the articles and I know that that's uh one of the biggest issues amongst amongst many but that is one of the top items in our scope uh in addition to the facade, is um replacing one of the alligators and upgrading the one that was recently replaced so it has a more modernized system so that they don't face the issues that they're facing today.

That's all I needed to hear.

Any other comments or questions from council?

Any comments from the audience?

Questions?

Madam Clerk.

Okay.

Councilwoman Taylor?

Yes.

Councilman Hieronymas?

Aye.

Councilwoman Hatfield aye.

Councilwoman Keller Lindsay?

Aye.

Councilman Brinkmeyer.

Aye.

Councilwoman Allen?

Aye.

Councilman Green.

Hi.

Councilman Johnson.

Aye.

Councilman Chuckman.

Aye, and thank you for making the trip.

Thank you.

There being nine ayes and zero nays.

Ordinance G 2026-11 is here now here by declared.

Adopted.

2026-04, an ordinance authorizing the issuance of the city of Evansville, Indiana, taxable economic development tax increment revenue bonds.

Series 2026, the Republic Project, and the lending of the proceeds thereof to Gooden Bowen Bowen, Evansville LLC or an affiliate or permitted assignee thereof and authorizing and approving other actions in respect there too.

Is there a motion to adopt ordinance if 2026-4?

So move.

Second.

Thanks.

Okay, floor is now open for discussion among council.

Colby Jackson DMD.

This ordinance before council tonight is to authorize economic development tax increment revenue bonds as the incentive to finance the construction of the mixed-use 153 unit development, also known as the Republic, located at 6933 Vogel Road.

If City Council were calls at the last meeting, the Republic Economic Development Area and Allocation Area were approved.

So as a result of that, the tax increment that will be generated from this development will be used to pay back the bonds in the amount not in an amount not to exceed five million dollars with a term of 25 years.

Just for the record, the city would have no obligation to pay these bonds back.

They are developer back, so the responsibility lies solely on the responsibility of the developer.

I do have also have the developer here tonight for this project, Shelby Bowen, he is the founder and partner of Rebar Development.

He traveled down to Evansville today.

So I'd also like to grant him the opportunity to share some more project-specific details with the council and then um have you guys ask any ask any questions that you might have regarding his project.

Also with visuals, yeah.

Oh, the concept plans for this project have been passed out to the entire council.

Thank you.

Mr.

President, members of council, thank you for hosting me for this request tonight.

Really excited to be here.

My name's Shelby Bowen.

As uh Colby said, uh actually I transitioned from rebar development.

I sold it to my partner and started Bowen Capital, but it's just a in name only.

Uh I want to say thank you to the mayor and her team, Colby, of course, from the very beginning have been supportive in helping us get to here tonight in front of you all for this request.

The Evansville Regional Partnership as well through the REDI funds.

We were awarded the grant from the REDI funding and regional Southwest Indiana Regional Development Authority.

That was probably six months ago or so, and through uh the IEDC, the Indiana Economic Development Corporation.

So we've been working with those groups in anticipation of this request.

And so I'm excited to share project details with you.

Uh again, I'm the developer, and so I'll be involved and have been from the beginning and will be uh all throughout the process.

Every project that I have done since 2005 has been a public-private partnership.

Every single one, oddly.

Uh, but that's just been my niche, and I'm happy to say uh that we've had many, many public-private partnerships with cities, towns, counties, and the state of Indiana over the last several years.

Uh, we've got the same project team on all almost all of those projects, architect, civil engineer, uh general contractor, and that's really allowed us to continue to get better and better.

I always say our next project should be our best one, and that's how I feel about this.

Uh, we're currently under construction on three projects.

We just finished one in Warsaw, uh, and then we're under construction in COCOMO and Westfield.

So this is what we do.

And if you looked at our website, either Rebar or Bowen Capital, uh, you would see something similar to this mixed use in this size range, and we've just really had a lot of success with our municipal partners, and this is uh what I love to do.

And this site really gets me excited and the master plan that's been out there for a while and the improvements that have been made.

These are the kind of communities and places where we like to invest.

So the Republic is 153 Class A apartment units, market rate units.

You can think about the rents similar to what my colleague Chris Reid did across the street at Promenade Flats.

That's a beautiful property and has done really well and proven the market at this class A level.

It's $38 million project.

10 million of that is private equity.

So we're actually matching the incentive a little bit more than dollar for dollar of our own cash equity, which is a combination of friends, family, and anybody uh that is interested in investing, which we've had a lot of success doing over the years.

Class A amenities, including a pool and rooftop patio.

We do a really cool rooftop work from home center.

A lot of people stay home and work, and that's been a successful amenity of ours, fitness cafe, uh pet spa.

I've been told to call it a pet spa, not a dog wash.

So it's a pet spa.

Indoor bike storage, uh, and really all of the class A amenities that you would come to expect in a property at this level.

As Colby mentioned, it's a developer-backed bond, so we take the risk.

We already have a bond purchaser.

I've done about 10 developer-backed bonds and sold them all to the same uh group out of central Indiana, and it's been a successful relationship.

It's really nice to be able to stand in front of you all and know that that part of our side uh is in place and ready to go.

The guarantor on the loan is me.

So I'm the guy uh that really is responsible and is gonna care a lot about how this property looks and how this property does and is managed, and so any problems uh, and and I say this to Colby or anybody from the city, you'll be calling me.

I'll be the one involved.

Loans already been approved through First Farmers Bank and Trust.

So we're set to to get moving if we get approval tonight.

And then last thing is our general contractor will bid competitively, so everybody locally, all sub, we don't our general contractor doesn't perform any trades, and clearly we want to try to find the best price, and it's advantageous to find good local subcontractors, and so it's a part of our process anyway, but also with the ready funding, they have some requirements where it's actually a competitively bid, and we provide that feedback to the ready group.

So anybody who's interested in being a part of that as a subcontractor here locally will have a chance to bid the project.

I think that's it.

Did I leave anything else?

Happy to answer any questions you might have about the project.

No questions from council?

Any questions?

Oh, sorry, I'll ask a couple questions.

Uh obviously I think it's pretty safe to say this is gonna be a market rate development, right?

That's right.

Yes, sir.

And and what anticipated ranges on what market is gonna be looking on this development.

Yeah, I think we're probably close to what the promenade flats is, which today is about a little under sixteen hundred a month for a one-bed, one bath, and around two thousand a month for two-bed, two bath.

We've got some smaller units that are a hybrid, it's not a studio, but the bedroom is smaller and internal, and that's a lower price point.

That's around 1350 to 1400 a month.

They do really well, and so that's a good a good unit, but we don't do any three-bedroom uh two bath.

How do you feel the uh like the walkability uh of the promenade is developing as far as access to the amenities in and around this particular development?

I love it.

I would love to live there personally, and when I see what's happening there.

Every time I come and visit, it feels like it's better and gets busier and there's new stuff happening.

You could live there, you can work nearby.

There's plenty of places to eat through there, as you know, and then I've been told that there's some other amenities potentially on the way, more entertainment focused.

I think it's an awesome spot.

Okay.

That's all my questions.

And the infrastructure is there, it's really nice.

Roads and sidewalks, and the money that's already been invested in that area is evident.

Uh so I think it's fantastic.

Councillor Green, I just have a question as a point of order, which is really to Colby.

The ordinance indicates that the financing agreements are supposed to be filed or have been filed with the clerk and to be in it with the minutes and attached as a part of this ordinance.

Can you confirm whether or not the financing agreements have been filed with Laura Winhurst or Clerk?

Yeah, I don't think it has at this time.

No.

Can we ensure that that's that's done promptly?

Thank you.

I would say as um can we take the vote then?

Yeah.

Okay.

You know, Councillor Green asked if we could still take the vote on this ordinance without having the financing agreements.

My opinion is that you can obviously the financing agreements will have more of the details related to this project, which you may or may not have wanted to review prior to voting on, but assuming that everything is in order and uh Nick Siriano's here from uh Zemur to submit those.

Um so it's really a comfortability level for the council.

So we'll find out here in a minute.

Yeah, I guess I've got one real quick question on this.

Uh counts attorney council, council attorney, Chuckman.

Um, considering this is the it's a developer-backed bond.

Um, how much does that play into the nuance on that side of it?

I mean, I suppose to be fair, the the ordinance is in of itself.

Uh Mr.

Shelby's indicated that it's developer-backed, so is Colby Jackson.

He's indicated that he's the guarantor on it.

All that language in and of itself would be provided for in the financing agreement.

It is not in the ordinance itself.

Okay, thank you.

Uh without the technicalities, I would just say as uh someone who represents the area and has been excited about the promenade for many years, seeing your investment and seeing things uh come to fruition.

Uh in that area is exciting seeing the flats happen, seeing this moving forward is uh years of dreaming, and so we definitely appreciate uh your investment in Evansville and being a part of you know what the cooks had in mind uh for many years.

So certainly appreciate the investment.

Thank you.

Any other comments from council?

Any comments from the audience, Madam Clerk?

Okay, Councilwoman Taylor.

Councilman Heronimus?

Aye.

Councilwoman Hatfield.

Aye.

Councilwoman Kaylor Lindsay.

Aye, Councilman Brinkmeyer.

Aye, Councilwoman Allen?

Aye.

Councilman Green.

Aye.

Councilman Johnson.

I councilman Truckman.

I have trust the technicalities will be fixed.

Aye.

Okay.

There being nine ayes and zero and a's ordinance F 2026-04.

Is he about hereby declared adopted?

Thank you.

I hope to see you all at the groundbreaking later this year.

Absolutely.

Okay, this next ordinance we'll have to ask Councilman Haronymas, Councilwoman Hatfield, and Councilman Johnson to step out of the room.

We still got a quorum.

Ordinance F 2026-06 and ordinance of the common council, the city of Evansville, authorizing repeals and reappropriation of funds within the Department of Metropolitan Development HUD funds.

So motion to adopt ordinance.

Yeah, 2026-06.

Four thousand for discussion.

Toby Jackson DMD again.

The first item of this ordinance is repealing and appropriating funds from Memorial CDC's planning account to their youth development account.

So planning grant funds in a CDBG planning grant funds were allocated from a prior year to Memorial to use for planning purposes.

So that is what you are seeing with that very top portion of the ordinance.

This is a normal process that many agencies kind of request when they have remaining funds left over from an activity for various reasons.

So this is not atypical.

Any questions about the first part of that ordinance?

Okay.

The second item on the ordinance is to repeal and reappropriate $200,000 in home funds from the home holding account to Memorial CDC's rental housing account for their rehab project located at 1550 1556 South Kentucky Avenue, also known as Ravenswood Place.

As a point of information, just so you know, home funds are only allocated to a project when it is shovel ready, which means all planning, permitting, engineering, and environmental work is completed, which would allow construction to immediately immediately begin as soon as funding is allocated.

So that is why you are seeing money move from the home holding account to an actual memorial rental housing account.

The rehab project will consist of two buildings that were built, I believe it was 1960, with eight units in total.

Planned rehab work to preserve this affordable housing includes but is not limited to some lighting enhancement, bathroom updates, energy efficiency, appliances, roof repair, and some flooring work.

And there are additional incentives to help support this project through the affordable housing trust fund, which is a resolution for tonight, which I will be talking about a little bit later this evening.

So that is basically the gist of this rehab project for memorial.

The home dollars, when they come in, do they just get put into a home account they do?

Until we're ready to use them, is that how it is?

Right.

So in the HUD, the annual HUDs allocations process, which we will be doing at the next week.

Well, on June 8th.

Okay.

Um those home funds you guys don't actually make any allocations for except for like home admin and some tenant-based rental assistance.

Anything related to any construction or rehab will go into a shovel ready pot, which is that general home account, and as projects become shovel ready that were applied for, which you will see a list of projects that have been applied for, those allocations are then made once that project again is shovel ready.

And then how much is remaining in that account approximately?

So annually we receive about I'd say uh around $600,000 in home funds, and so in it so with any one year, you know, one or two projects might clear that account out.

Um, I don't think we have we might have maybe maybe half of a year's worth to a year's worth of home funds because there are various home funds that are actually in line up right now with commitments to be made.

So great, all right, thank you.

Any other comments for Calvin?

Any comments or questions from the audience?

Okay.

Councilwoman Taylor.

Yes, Councilman Hieronymous recused himself as well as Councilwoman Hatfield.

Councilwoman Kayler Lenzi.

Yes.

Councilman Brinkmeyer.

Aye.

Councilwoman Allen.

Aye.

Councilman Green.

Councilman Johnson recused himself.

Councilman Chuckman.

All right.

There being six A's.

Three recused, ordinance.

Thank you.

Okay.

Okay.

Not everyone followed orders.

Resolution docket.

Why thank you?

Resolution C, 2026-16, a resolution of the Common Council, the City of Evansville, Indiana declaration of official intent to enter into lease purchase agreements for the 2026 police pursuit vehicles.

Is there a motion to adopt resolution C 2026 16?

So moved.

I mean a first and a second.

Robert, your show.

Good evening, Robert Gunter with the City Controller's Office.

Um this may be one of those uh that you may want to table to next week.

We're still getting the lease agreement approved by the various attorneys.

So it again it doesn't have the the final document attached like we had hoped, but it's for the about 15 police cars.

Uh we're doing this through the Indiana Bond Bank, uh, hope to get 15 uh SUVs.

So we normally would have gone through the Evansville Bond Bank, but we're we kind of have that money set aside.

There's a couple DMD projects and another project that were kind of holding that for those.

So that's the reason we went outside of the norm.

So, are you saying that we that we you would feel better if we held this off?

I would leave that to the council if they're comfortable approving it with without the the lease.

I have it in front of me, it just doesn't have all the blanks filled in the attorneys are still going back and forth on some of the details.

So, we meet next.

Well, so I guess my question is we just move forward with one that did not have the final thing, and we said yes in hopes that it would be there.

What would be different with doing it for this one?

The difference here is that the financing agreements have already been agreed to amongst the various parties.

It's just a matter of it being attached to the record here.

In this case, the actual form of the lease is not complete.

I would entertain a motion to table.

I would motion that uh make motion that we table this until next week, please.

Second.

Okay.

Um all those in favor.

Thank you.

Thank you, Laura.

And thank you, Robert.

Resolution C, 2026-17, a resolution of the common council of the city of Evansville, Indiana supporting a solar cooperative in the city of Evansville, providing to consent to solar united neighborhoods, Inc.

for the use of the city seal, directing the director in the Evansville Climate Collaborative to offer in-kind support and provide effective and effective dates.

Is there a motion to adopt resolution C 2026 17?

So moved.

Hearing a first and a second.

Good evening, Council.

Lauren Lynch, Director of the Evansville Climate Collaborative.

Um, as you are aware, uh, last year we uh the council adopted Evansville's climate action plan for 2025 with the goal of uh reducing um greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050.

And um the council may also um recognize that um energy use for buildings is the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases, so if we're going to do uh have a lot of impact and a lot of positive impact, we need to curtail um energy use in buildings or at least um find clean energy sources.

77% of our emissions are attributed to grid supplied electricity from fossil fuel sources.

Um in the climate action plan, we have a strategy um to promote residential and commercial solar energy installations through policy and incentive programs.

And we also all know or well aware that the price of energy has gone up and there's an increasing energy burden on our residents.

So we want to help them find lower uh solutions to lower their energy costs.

So one of our um solutions that we would be proposing is um to support a solar purchasing co-op here in Evansville where resident members have the chance to cooperatively navigate together the complex world of solar and combine their efforts to purchase solar, which makes it more accessible and affordable for everyone.

And we um we the city want to partner with Solar United Neighbors, which is a national nonprofit that has done many solar purchasing co-ops across the country, and they are launching a solar co-op on uh May 18th.

And we would like to officially partner with Sun or Solar United Neighbors to administer that co-op here in Evansville.

So I'm here asking the council for your support and um through this resolution to support the Southwestern Indiana Solar Co-op.

Uh any uh questions among council, I know Christopher is here to speak as well.

I was gonna say, just quick question.

This is not costing anything, this is just uh a collaboration and a support of two groups.

Is that right?

That's correct.

Um, Solar United Neighbors will be the facilitator of the co-op and they will lean their um technical expertise and guidance to residents, and the city of Evansville is just backing the effort in support to help promote it to help make residents more aware that it's um available and to just um be along for uh support.

Great, thank you.

Christopher, and a jacket, all I like it.

You know it's serious if I'm putting the jacket on, I'm Christopher Norwich, Evansville resident, uh lifelong hoosier, and the Indiana Program Associate for Solar United Neighbors, otherwise known as Sun S U N, because we're very clever with our acronym.

And this is a very rare occasion where I'm before the council with some pretty freaking good news.

So I want that to be recognized.

Uh tomorrow we are launching Sun's 22nd solar co-op in Indiana, and it's designed to help neighbors join together to leverage their bulk purchasing and Sun's vendor neutral expertise to make it cheaper to install solar power.

The co-op is open to homeowners, nonprofits, and small businesses throughout Vanderburg, Warwick, Posey, Gibson, Pike, and Spencer counties.

So I'm excited to help friends and neighbors in these communities go solar so they can enjoy the same benefits I have with my personal solar system I have on my home.

So as Lauren mentioned, these new solar owners will join our network of 300 solar owners across Indiana who are enjoying 11 million dollars in estimated lifetime energy savings.

So as I've often told you that our local electric utility rates do not go down.

So instead of sending more money each month towards monopoly utility shareholder profits, investing in solar lets you take what you would pay to cover future electric bills and actually turn them into an asset that will generate a return while keeping money in your pocket.

So we started these solar co-ops because while going solar can be daunting, it's like buying a good used car.

It doesn't have to be when you do it as a group.

So solar co-op members learn together with the support of experts at Solar United Neighbors like myself and my other team members who step them through every part of the process.

So we provide education about how solar works, the entire installation process, and help them decide if solar is right for them and their family.

So starting next week, I'll be hosting a series of free in-person and virtual solar 101 sessions.

I did pass out a flyer to you all that talks about the details about the Evansville events coming up on May 18th and May 20th.

And for those listening at home and my fans, that information is at Solar United Neighbors.org/slash SW Indiana.

So both the co-op and the solar one-on-one sessions are free to join with no commitment to purchase.

And once we recruit a large enough group, we'll solicit competitive bids from the local solar installers.

A selection committee made up of the co-op members will actually review those bids and select a single installer to serve the entire co-op at a bulk rate.

And that chosen installer will then provide each co-op member a personalized quote based on their individual needs, which can also include battery storage and EV charging options.

So this is a process we've used to help tens of thousands of people across the country go solar since our founding in 2007, as well as hundreds right here in Indiana since our Indiana program started in 2019.

So, and and as Lauren mentioned, we're not doing this alone.

So I'm very proud to have the support of her at the Asville Climate Collaborative Office, Earth Charter Indiana, Sierra Club Hoosier Chapter, Citizens Action Coalition, Indiana Conservation Voters, Hoosier Environmental Council, and Faith in Place.

And an outstanding team of volunteer volunteers working hard to keep the sun shining in Indiana, a couple I have here tonight.

So I do urge you to pass the resolution.

And I'll let you know that although we partner with cities in each of each city in our co-op areas, this will be the first ever resolution passed for one of our Indiana co-ops.

So that would be proud of Indiana as the first.

So I'll leave you with a reminder that when there is a huge solar spill, we all call it a really nice sunny day.

Happy to take your questions and thanks for your time.

Any questions among council?

I think that was pretty good.

Alright.

Uh Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

Councilwoman Taylor?

Yes.

Councilman Heronimus?

Aye.

Councilwoman Huntfield?

Aye.

Councilwoman Kayler Lindsay?

Aye.

Councilman Brickmary.

Aye.

Councilwoman Allen?

Aye.

Councilman Green?

Aye.

Councilman Johnson?

Aye.

Councilman Trumpman.

A sun shining, yes.

There being nine ayes and zero nays.

Resolution C 2026 17 is hereby declared adopted.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Resolution C.

2026-18.

A resolution in the common council of the City of Evansville, Indiana authorizing affordable housing funds from Memorial Community Development Corporation, 1550 to 1556 South Kentucky Avenue, Ravenswoods Place in the City of Evansville, Indiana, and amount not to exceed 250,000.

Colby, you're getting your steps in tonight.

Second.

I'll be first and second.

Colby.

All right.

Colby Jackson, DMD.

This resolution is authorizing affordable housing trust funds in an amount not to exceed two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for Memorial CDC's rehab project located at 1550 1556 South Kentucky Avenue, also known as Ravenswood Place, as mentioned in the preceding ordinance.

This rehab will preserve affordable housing of two buildings with a total of eight units in that.

And the total project cost for this rehab project is 1.46 million.

As you all know, whenever affordable housing trust fund um dollars are being granted to a nonprofit, the city council has to approve them via resolution.

So this resolution will satisfy that.

Happy to answer any questions.

Council questions.

So there's there's no uh corresponding finance ordinance that goes with this.

The funds are granted just from the approval of the resolution.

Is that correct?

Correct.

Okay.

And do we know how much is remaining in the Affordable Housing Trust Fund?

We do.

I figured somebody was gonna ask that.

Um so available for grants and subsidies.

There's actually $132,762 as of today.

And there is an additional $250,000 in the notes line, and that can be uh reappropriated for grants and subsidies if it's necessary.

So that's kind of just sitting there in case uh developer project you know comes along for a for-profit entity, but if not, we can move it.

Yep.

Cole, just a question for a point of order.

Um you mentioned the Evansville Municipal Code.

It it it indicates that on a quarterly basis, you're gonna provide an update to the council regarding the expenditures related to funds distributed by the council.

Is that something that you guys have?

We have a report with that we send.

Well, I don't know if it's been sent out annually by a finance officer or not, but if you guys have not received that, I can make sure that I get that out to you guys as soon as tomorrow.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Catching all the details tonight.

Watch out.

Mr.

President, I got a couple questions.

Colby, you and I had talked a little bit earlier on this particular project, and you said there was some additional home funds that were combining in this.

So I guess my understanding of this project is Memorial CDC recently acquired this property, is going to rehabilitate it.

Um kind of to the same line of questioning that councillor Taylor and I had.

Do you know what is going to become of the residents that are currently residing there or are there residents currently residing?

I don't know if there are residents currently residing there, but when we have worked with Memorial CDC in the past on rehab projects where there are units that are um occupied, there's typically that vacant um relocation plan, banking vacant unit relocation plan where if there is a number of vacant units available, they will rehab those, move the tenants from their current a location into one of the rehab tent uh locations, and they can either stay in that or they can return back to their unit once that unit is rehab.

So they kind of do like a shuffle.

Okay, and then how much uh I I can't recall you you said uh how much of an allocation of home funds are going to be going into this particular project as well.

200,000, 200,000.

So we're looking at 450,000 for an eight unit rehab, interior, exterior, yep, flooring, roof, lighting.

They did make they did mention that they would also have in the scope some major systems.

Um, so everything that I mentioned was included but not limited limited to it's uh listed as a 1.6 million project in total.

So I'm assuming that it needs substantial rehab work, and that's probably why the cost is so high.

Yeah.

When we when we get these brought to us, obviously we have the resolution side.

Is there any opportunity moving forward where we can get kind of a greater understanding of the scope of the project, like the what is submitted for, I can share with you what is submitted in the proposal if that helps.

I mean, they usually outline the project description and then the budget um budget items within that.

I can provide that page of the proposal to you.

I'm not sure if when it comes to home funds, I mean I don't know that I'll be able to provide it to you, Councilman Johnson or Councilwoman Hatfield because it it is home funds.

Um and so usually when we get those scopes, it is because they've submitted a proposal for some kind of HUD allocation.

I gotcha.

Yep.

And then I guess last question we don't have anybody from Memorial here.

We don't.

Okay.

I didn't catch it, Colby.

Um, how many uh unit units is this?

Eight in total.

Eight.

Okay, thank you.

Uh just uh the clarify that um the requests from attorney truckman, our clarification is a quarterly update for the affordable housing trust fund.

Correct, gotcha.

I can send that over.

Like I said, we do um my finance officer does put together that report and we provide it to the affordable housing trust fund board, but I'm guessing that that has not been making its way to city council, so we'll make sure to get that the most current one up to uh to you all tomorrow, and then make sure that we make sure it's submitted quarterly.

Perfect, we appreciate it.

Yep.

Um any questions uh from the public.

Seeing none, Madam Clerk.

Councilwoman Taylor, yes, Councilman Heronimus, aye.

Councilwoman Hatfield?

Aye.

Councilwoman Kayler Lindsay, aye.

Councilman Brinkweyer, aye.

Councilwoman Allen?

Aye.

Councilman Green.

Aye.

Councilman Johnson.

Uh Councilman Chalkman.

I there being nine ayes and zero nays.

Resolution C 2026 18 is hereby declared adopted.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Resolution C 2026-19, a resolution of the common council, the city of Evansville, Indiana adopting Evansville Regional Trails Master Plan.

And there was a plan.

Is there a motion to adopt resolution C 2026 19?

So moved.

You're in a first and a second.

Lori, you've been waiting all night.

Let's hear it.

So excited about this.

So I'm Lori Van Hook, Evansville Area Trails Coalition Executive Director and longtime Evansville positive partner to uh common council.

I just want to thank you all for always partnering with us and our local trailblazers on not only supporting a plan, and this is a regional connections plan.

First ever, as stated to you all before, it's been adopted by the parks board of commissioners as well as our partners, the executive directors of the parks and recreation department.

We have not only brought together partners to fund this so that it isn't uh using a one cent of taxpayer dollars, which is very exciting.

Um we plan to build this out with a capital campaign moving forward.

Once we've built all the trails, right, we're gonna work to sustain them.

Um but one thing that we have advocated for since the beginning is to partner with our our um neighboring cities so that we're aligning and unifying our connections, and so that advocacy coordination has taken place from the very beginning, and we're at that place now where you all are um looking at adopting this to unify that that connection so that when Mount Vernon and the Posey County Trails Coalition completes their trail plan, they are gonna follow suit and use this as an example so that their common council uh adopts that this is the connection so it's unified.

This works in a greater regional opportunity so that we can work together with our cities that are neighboring so that we can uh not only apply for grants at the state level but also federally and assist with using some of the grant dollars that will be available for those regional connections.

So that's the goal is to find assistance, unify our connections, but do it from this platform.

So um just I wanted to say thank you again for that support, comments from council.

I'll just say a couple comments.

I'm very grateful for all the work that you and the team does and the advocates, i.e.

the trailblazers that are consistently pushing things forward.

I've you know lived in this community since 2007, and there's been a tremendous growth in connectivity uh and looking at this more in a regional standpoint uh at this point in time, maybe a little bit behind the curve, but at least we're getting where we need to be.

Right.

So thank you for all your efforts, Lori.

Thank you.

And also kudos.

I talked to you earlier as a person who is a um a great recipient of the trail and walks the trail very often.

I'm excited to see what's what has happened in these you know last years.

I've seen the improvement as I've been able to go farther and farther in one direction.

So it is exciting um to know the connectivity um that is happening, and it also puts us on the map with other cities and other larger cities, so it brings us um to that, and as we look at a healthier Evansville, this is definitely part of that plan.

So um, this is something that I am definitely proud to say is part of what we're doing here.

Thank you.

You are our trailblazer, Lori.

Thank you.

Um Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

Councilwoman Taylor.

Unless anyone from public would like to share some words of wisdom or congratulations.

Thank you.

Councilwoman Taylor?

Yes.

Councilman Heronimus?

Aye.

Councilwoman Hatfield?

Aye.

Councilwoman Kayler Lindsay?

Aye.

Councilman Brinkmeyer.

Aye.

Councilwoman Allen.

Aye.

Councilman Green.

Aye.

Councilman Johnson.

Aye.

Councilman Chuckman.

Aye.

There being nine ayes and zero nays.

Resolution C.

2026 19 is hereby declared adopted.

Thank you.

I'm grateful.

Thank you.

Thank you, Lori.

Miscellaneous business.

The next meeting of the common council will be on Monday May 18th.

Again, that's next week, 2026 at 5:30 p.m.

Boards and Commissions.

We have a number of vacancies here.

We have three vacancies on the Commission on Social Status of African American mills.

All of those must be a city resident.

We have a vacancy on the Evansville Economic Development Commission, which is City Council will nominate that person to the mayor to fill the vacancy.

Evansville Redevelopment Commission, we also need to fill the vacancy on there.

They must be a city resident in age 18 or older.

And Evansville Urban Enterprise Association Board must be a Republican zone resident.

So you must have a voting record of Republican and live in the Evansville Urban Enterprise Zone.

Those do not require nomination.

However, we also have a vacancy on the affordable housing fund advisory committee.

That vacancy must that person must be nominated by a township trustee, a community development corporation, a neighborhood association, a community-based organization, or other social service agency.

Everyone applying can apply online at www.evansville.in.gov forward slash boards by Monday, May 25th.

If you are applying for the Affordable Housing Fund Advisory Committee, please also have your nomination emailed to boards at Evansville.in.gov as well by Monday, May 25th.

Thank you, Laura.

You're welcome.

And then the goal will be for you guys after these are submitted, we'll give them to you.

You'll have time to review, and then we will vote on it at the first meeting in June.

That is our timeline.

I know you guys probably tired of hearing me speak, but you know, as I think about this meeting, um, seeing a resolution about trails, a resolution about solar, uh Colby bringing the heat over here with uh numerous affordable housing uh renovations and a uh very exciting housing development on the promenade.

Um it's a pretty cool night.

Um other uh comments from council?

If not, we've got a few slips here, madam clerk.

Okay, the first one I'm gonna apologize, I cannot read all these names.

But Derek and a group of students, I believe, are here to speak.

Derek, Lavon, Derek, Maria, Brooklyn.

Yeah, you can introduce yourself.

Hi, I'm Briley Owen.

Hi, I'm Derek Floyd.

Hi, I'm Samori Wagner.

Hi, my name is Lab Intensley.

My name's Brooklyn Farrow.

And today we are here with the Winy community to speak about Van Park and its conditions.

So today we are here to speak about Van Park.

It's not in a very great condition, and it's not really a safe place right now.

There are no sidewalks, and there are younger kids like us, ages five to ten, that play at that park.

There's also the basketball goals, there are cricket, there's double rims, um also the ro the basketball goals, the net is also broken off.

There's it's hard to play.

It also needs a lot of supervision.

There are people, there are like kids that are like elementary kids that are fighting each other.

There's people out there selling illegal things, and it's just very dangerous for all people.

And I live on that road, and like when I walk on that road, there's no sidewalks.

So when the city bus comes by, I almost get hit by that every time.

This is very dangerous for kids like my age and under walking on that road.

And we are here to speak about the parts conditions, and thank you for listening because we just need y'all to know that this park isn't safe right now.

Like on the playground, somebody broke off a slide, the children's slide, and there's a wooden slap replacing the slide.

And it's not very safe.

And the bathrooms they are broken, unsanitized, and you can't use them at all.

Thank you for listening to us.

That's it.

Appreciate you guys speaking up.

Yeah.

I would just like to commend you all for coming to council tonight to share your concerns.

Um that is a huge step in the way that you uh discussed and we're able to uh present your case as to why Fan Park needs our attention.

Um was done in a very um professional manner, and I just want to commend you all, you should be very proud of yourselves.

Thank you.

We just need you, you can help us, and you can help the community to fix the park.

Yeah, and I would like to add I appreciate um what you've each brought to this.

I think I recognize a couple faces over there.

Um, you are definitely meeting your public speaking standards according to the Indiana Department of Education.

Uh so I do appreciate you doing that.

If you need some extra credit, I'll be happy to sign on for your public speaking um tonight.

Also, I would like to add um one of the things that we often talk about is um bringing a problem and then bringing a solution.

Are you willing to have additional conversations about the park and what you would like to see in the future?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you very much.

There we go.

Yeah, I can sit down.

Thank you guys.

I would like to also add too that um I'm very very proud of y'all.

We talk about issues and things that are going on in our community and they have a lot of solutions, but I told them the steps that you need to take, and they wanted to come see how this worked out and for them to show up.

They were a little nervous, but to set through it and and get up and speak and just to be here, and it makes me very, very happy.

So as she said, y'all should be proud of yourself.

So exactly, Courtney.

I couldn't understand.

What was the park?

The so they all of these students live in the van and pollock area.

So they're talking about the park that's down the street from uh our community center, and that's something that we've been trying to get together for.

There's a lot going on down there right now, and summer's coming, and we've talked about what we can do for our summer program, how we can get things fixed up, we clean it up, we do all of that, but there's a lot more stuff that needs to happen out there.

So we're in the works of making that happen, but I wanted them to actually see you know this process, but then also that their voices can do a lot as well, and they're ready to put the work in because they they already have proven that.

But I wanted them to, like I said, see this process as well.

Okay, we have another speaker, Luke Bryant.

If you could come up and state your name and address, and you'll have three minutes to speak.

Hi, uh I'm Luke Bryant C.

S.

Not the country singer, but um I got excited there for a second.

Yeah, I know, I know.

Um, can I start?

Yep.

Your address.

So um I'm a uh computer science.

If you can state your address really quick.

Oh uh 1221 Meadowbrook Drive.

Thank you.

Yeah.

So uh I recently graduated um last year to get my computer science degree, uh, some recent university of Southern Indiana graduate.

But I'm here to talk about flock safety.

Um I don't know if anyone here has anyone addressed it before, but uh I started noticing they were getting uh more and more more.

Uh they're added at USI, so um they're being the contract is currently extended, and um I'm here to kind of uh urge the city council to kind of review the contract and try to end that because um uh it threatens privacy.

Um and it's a centralized surveillance system uh that collects information on innocent people, so it's not just criminals but everyone.

Um so these they like to say it's an automatic license plate reader, but it collects every piece of information on every car going by.

Um but the fourth amendment exists to protect Americans from unreasonable searches and government intrusion.

Our country was founded on the idea that the government should not be able to monitor people without cause or without warrant, but these camera systems move us closer to exactly that kind of surveillance.

They do not simply photograph license plates, they collect and store detailed records of where people travel, where they travel, and how often they travel over time.

That creates a complete map of a person's daily life, like where they work, where they worship, who they spend time with, what medical offices they visit.

Um the overwhelming majority of people are not suspected of any crime.

Um it's dangerous because once again it's a centralized database, so it crosses state lines, not just the local police department has the uh information from Flock, it's nationwide, so every single uh police department can track you.

Um, and it's not just police officers that have it, it could be HOAs that install them.

Um the Supreme Court already recognized that modern technology um does uh it changes the constitutional question in Carpenter v.

United States.

The court warned that the dangers of long-term digital tracking made it clear that Americans do not lose fourth amendment protection simply because they move through public spaces.

There's a major difference between an officer seeing a car and uh once and the government creating a permanent searchable history of someone's movements for months or years.

Um they're vulnerable to abuse.

Uh officers have already been caught using flock systems to stalk people, um spouses and private citizens.

Um so that's that.

Um, and there is no independent study or evidence that these uh systems reduce crime.

Uh most of the time that these studies come out, they um they're sponsored by Flock or they're it's these agencies that are actually selling these camera systems.

So there's no independent study.

Um, sure you could have a police officer say their anecdotal experience, but uh there's no actual independent research.

Um so a free society should not require innocent citizens to have their movements recorded and stored in a nationwide database.

I think you wrap up.

Okay, uh, just to live their daily lives, and I urge this council to um stop that flock contract.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Committee reports, committee reports.

We will have a finance committee meeting for ordinance F 2026.

Next Monday, May 18th at 4 15 in this room, room 301.

Very exciting.

Um motion to adjourn.

All those in favor?

I oppose.

So ordered meeting adjourned at 6 50.

Thank you, everybody.