0:24Welcome to our meeting.
0:26The date is August 19, 2025.
0:30This is an open meeting of the Grand Island City Council.
0:34The City of Grand Island abides by the Open Meetings Act in conducting business.
0:38A copy of the Open Meetings Act is displayed in the back of this room as required by state law.
0:45I ask that you join us and stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
0:52I pledge allegiance to the flag.
1:10The city clerk will now perform roll call.
1:13Council President Shearden.
1:16Councilmember Conley will be absent.
1:18Councilmember Nickerson.
1:23Councilman Mendoza will be absent.
1:25Councilmember O'Neill?
1:27Councilmember Pollock.
1:29Councilmember Lanfear.
1:33Also present are Jill Grinier, the City Clerk.
1:36Laura McAloon, the city administrator.
1:38Patrick Brown, the assistant city administrator and chief financial officer.
1:43Carrie Fisk, the city attorney, and Keith Kurtz, the public works director.
1:49A sign up sheet was available in the lobby for individuals wishing to provide input on any of tonight's agenda items.
1:56If you did not sign up to speak on an agenda item, please come forward, state your name and the agenda topic on which you will be speaking.
2:10Thank you, Mayor Council.
2:25Hearing from no one else, we will proceed with our agenda.
2:295A, fiscal year 2026, parks and recreation budget proposal.
2:56Just gonna start off with a little background.
2:59So the Parks and Recreation Department is comprised of five divisions.
3:05We have the Parks Division, Recreation, Cemetery, Golf, and the shooting park.
3:12Park Operations is basically our maintenance division.
3:17They're responsible for the upkeep of ball fields, park courts, playgrounds, trails, park trees, etc.
3:26They have 14 full-time employees, and they try to hire about 22 seasonal employees each year.
3:33The recreation division, which consists of Island Oasis, the Field House, Stalley Train, Lincoln Pool, the Children's Summer Programs have three full-time positions, and they'll hire up to a hundred and fifty seasonals each summer.
3:53The cemetery division has five full-time staff, uh, one part-time staff, and they tried to hire about six seasonals each summer.
4:04So now JackRabbit Run golf course is managed by Landscapes Unlimited currently.
4:11Um and Heartland Public Shooting Park is managed by Hornaday.
4:17Um in the audience today, we have our superintendents from parks, recreation, and cemetery.
4:24We have team members from Hornaday and landscapes to answer any questions.
4:31Um just a little bit more background.
4:34So um the way the management contracts are um, I guess made up, so landscapes will actually um provide a operational budget that to the city for approval because the the revenue is actually the city's revenue, the expenses are the city's revenue.
4:51The the way the the shooting park is set up with Hornaday, they uh don't submit a an operational budget uh because they collect the revenues, they set the fees, but they also are responsible for all the expenses.
5:00Because they collect the revenues, they set the fees, but they also are responsible for all the expenses.
5:02That's how that's set up.
5:03But they will submit a budget for capital expenses and that type of thing.
5:08We'll talk about that a little bit later.
5:13So I got in your packets, there was probably almost 70 slides.
5:17I'm not going to go through all the slides and and the ones I do, I'm gonna fly through as much as I can just in the interest of time.
5:23But if council has any questions on any of the information in your packet, please you know turn your light on.
5:30Um if I go too fast through a slide, turn your light on, I'll answer any questions, and we can dive into dive into the to each thing.
5:39And at the end, I'll I'll also I'll I'll leave some time for uh the Hornaday team and the landscape team if they'd like to make any comments or or answer any questions from from council.
5:50Okay, getting into the presentation.
5:53You'll see our personnel and operating proposed budgets.
5:57Overall, we had an 8.8% increase in personnel and a 12% increase in operating.
6:05Um really this budget that we turned in reflects our master plan.
6:09Council might recall that we um could just recently completed a master plan uh for the parks and recreation department.
6:16Um the master plan actually recommended uh two full-time additional um FTEs for maintenance worker and eight additional seasonals, and increasing our operations our operational budget from three thousand three hundred and seventy-five dollars per acre to four thousand fifteen dollars per acre.
6:34So, but we realize that's you know a lot to bite off right away.
6:38Um so what we did is we took a two-prong approach.
6:40Um, we are requesting one FTE, one full-time FTE, and increasing the budget by 120,000 for our park operations to do things like hiring out of spraying and some some irrigation services, small projects, and and tree services.
6:57Um we are proposing from on the revenue side, we are proposing 150,000 of revenue to offset some of these expenses attributed to the work that we do in the good life district, whether it be the veterans complex or Eagle Scout Park.
7:14So there's some some opportunities there.
7:16Um we spend a lot of staff time, there's utility costs, there's projects in those inside the good life district, there's repairs, fertilizer, you name it.
7:27We we anticipate there's over 150,000 of cost that we could um that we could uh um bring back to uh the department from the good life district.
7:41Okay, so here's the the one FTE request.
7:45Uh, this is a full-time maintenance worker.
7:47Um, this is a skilled workers, skilled worker position.
7:50They're gonna be able to handle heavy equipment, um, be able to groom athletic fields, work on playgrounds.
7:57But really, the primary thing we want this individual to do is help us with our um some in-house help with our irrigation systems.
8:05We have 62 irrigation systems in the parks and or I'm sorry, seriously 62 irrigation in the in uh 34 parks, and they're they're all commercial irrigation systems.
8:18Just some recent projects.
8:19I'm not gonna go through everything, but if uh you uh look around some of our park facilities, you'll see that we've been very busy uh these last few years.
8:28Um if you if you look at Ryder Park, Stolly Park improvements, some of our playgrounds are um shelters.
8:34It's really been exciting to see what our staff has accomplished and and honestly our partners that we have in our community that have helped us make these things happen.
8:45So uh also just drive by the skate park if you that it's it's pretty much complete now.
8:51We've got a little landscaping to do, but the skate park is done very impressive.
8:54Uh check out drive-through Stolly Parks with those improvements have uh are are pretty much complete now.
9:03Okay, here's just a quick update on our 2005 projects.
9:08Um I'm not gonna go through them all again, but we budgeted 6.8 million dollars last year.
9:13Um we spent 3.3 million dollars, and we're um anticipating carrying over 2.5 million dollars, and we'll have about a million dollars being unspent from last year.
9:26Carryover projects, there's just four carryover projects.
9:30Um all four of these are really about ready to get started.
9:34Um they actually might be done by the time the next fiscal year comes, but we don't think we'll probably get the bills in until after October 1st when the new fiscal comes.
9:43So we're we're calling these carryover projects.
9:49Okay, so getting into some of these other projects again.
9:53I'm gonna go quickly through these.
9:55I feel like council has seen a lot of these projects a lot.
9:57We're probably gonna talk again some more about some of these projects.
10:00So I'm not gonna dive into them too much, but if you want details on anything, please ask.
10:06Um I don't know if it's good timing, bad timing, uh the stars aligning, whatever you want to call it.
10:14We would have a pretty normal budget if it wasn't for what I'm starting to call the the big four projects.
10:18So we've got four projects that have kind of are just coming to the top right now.
10:23Um at this time at this time.
10:26It's the island oasis project, it's the South Locust Trail Project, it's the Ryder Field Project, and a Stulley Train Project.
10:32So those are four projects that we've been working on for some time, but they're all um coming up now.
10:37Um Island Oasis is the first slide here.
10:41So it's council might remember we did a master plan of facility evaluation of Island Oasis back in 2002.
10:47They gave us some great recommendations.
10:48We had public input on what they would like what the public would like to see the water park to be.
10:54Um in November, we hired um Water's Edge to give us a design of this this renovation project.
11:02Um Kyle with Water's Edge was just here and talked to council in June, presented uh the renovation plan of uh of uh separating the wave pool from the from the leisure pool, new children's area, splash pad, putt putt golf.
11:18Um and then a plan to also just some areas where we can actually uh um keep the water park open longer so it can add some revenue and kind of that shoulder season.
11:31Um the design is now complete of that.
11:34We've we completed that design, and we're just about to go to bed.
11:38The rider baseball field project.
11:42So this is actually about a 3.7 million dollar project.
11:45Uh again, we have some private money.
11:47Council may recall a group of baseball stakeholders, American Legion supporters approached city council, gave a presentation to renovate the Ryder Park baseball field.
11:57Um, again, I won't go into the details of that project right now today, but it the design is complete.
12:02Um the project has been bid, and we are just waiting to award that bid.
12:08The Stally train area again.
12:14Uh just like the uh Ryder Park baseball field, we had a group of enthusiasts come uh to council, um, gave a presentation um on a th on a on a project to renovate the Solley train area.
12:31Um the design is almost complete.
12:34It was paid for all by private dollars that design.
12:37We're we're gonna bid it soon.
12:39And and again, let me know if you want any details on any of these projects.
12:46So the South Locust Street Project.
12:47So this one's currently in design.
12:50Um current the uh connection would go out to Camp Augustine um along or uh would start at the diversion along South Locust.
13:00Um talking to public works.
13:01This is this might be more of a six million dollar project.
13:04Uh in my I have maybe an older image here, but uh the current design is to just go past the uh um I guess what's the north bridge, so we wouldn't go we wouldn't have two bridges in the current design.
13:17So it would be um we think maybe more of a six million dollar project.
13:24So that's the big four.
13:26So the other big one on here is the uh Pier Lake uh trail renovation.
13:31This one um I was gonna talk to you a little bit about.
13:36Um this one may not, this one could slide this year because we're still trying to study what we want to do here.
13:42Um there's I'll just point it out here.
13:44There's some erosion happening um kind of along this seawall right here.
13:49It's hard to see, but it's starting to collapse a little bit on the trail.
13:52So we we're gonna need to do something here in the near future.
13:56Um, but again, it may not get done this year, but we'll we we'd like to get it started, at least getting some of the study done or some of the study figured out.
14:03Um, we may actually move this trail a little further, you know, away from the the lake's edge, or we or we may do some regrading of the of the slope um to to the lake.
14:14So we're we're working on that, but we did put a pretty sizable number there just to kind of cover us.
14:21So again, I'm gonna go through these pretty quickly.
14:23East Fadley irrigation system, which is the this small park just east of the um uh the old St.
14:32The irrigation system's just failing, and we need to replace that.
14:36Hawsi has a question.
14:38Todd, back on uh Pier Lake.
14:42In in prior years, we had some uh issues where only one of the three fountains were working.
14:48Has that been fixed?
14:50We have two fountains and an aerator that are all working right now.
14:53Okay, I thought there was three at one time.
15:00But there was three uh so what Barry's saying that there was three it's been quite a few years, so we've we've been operating with two for quite a few years.
15:10There is an underwater aeration system also, so a lot of people may not know, so that that is been incorporated.
15:16So the the issue that was caused by only having the one working sprinkler, which was the smell from the water.
15:23That's the calls I was getting.
15:25Uh has that then been remedied, remedied?
15:28I'm sorry, what was that question again?
15:30So I used to get calls um regarding the smell coming off the lake, but it was because the fountains weren't all working.
15:36So has the smell been taken care of that that problem?
15:39We have we have not had any phone calls on smell for a while.
15:43I think you know, obviously, weather plays a big part of it too.
15:46You know, we've this has been a rainy year year, and so it's hasn't been as you know, it's the water's been moving around a little bit more, but we have two of two uh two uh um of those fountains that are working and the underwater area.
15:59We have not had in we have not had complaints.
16:01Okay, thank you, Todd.
16:07So greenhouse renovation of 91,000.
16:10This is just some structural repairs, some trusses, columns, base plates.
16:14Um one to replace the temperature alarm system and some update some planters.
16:20Cemetery columbarium, the ash burials are are very uh popular, so we want to continue to add columbariums, the cemetery.
16:30Ashley Park playground replacement.
16:33Um this is uh just kind of an ongoing effort.
16:38We've been doing a pretty good job of replacing some of the outdated playgrounds, and this is the next one on the list.
16:49The Lincoln Pool diving board is a smaller project, it's just to replace some pedestals that are um just needing to be replaced at Lincoln Pool.
16:58Uh the parks contingency that is just a fund that we used if we have any overruns, you know, change orders, unexpected projects.
17:05So that's a that just gives us a little more flexibility.
17:09Park roads and park updates.
17:12Um this is again kind of a placeholder.
17:15This is we we want to keep um updating and repairing our parking lots and our roads in the parks.
17:21Um the uh park that we kind of have uh um earmarked for this for this year is Ashley Park.
17:32Again, we've been replacing picnic shelters as much as we can just to keep those keep them updated.
17:38Um we will do one or two, depending on the size of the of the picnic shelter, and depends on the uh the with the price we get, honestly.
17:47And um the we we uh are looking at Eagle Scout Park for for picnic shelter replacements.
17:55Um again, tennis and pickleball court renovations.
17:59This is something that's kind of an ongoing thing.
18:00Um we did Beakler Park last year, we did Stully Park again uh two years ago, and we are looking at a renovation at uh um Gray Sabbath Park this year.
18:12Uh trail development.
18:14We um received uh a grant, a federal grant for the West uh connector trail.
18:19Council may remember this.
18:20This is just a long process.
18:22Um it's uh I want to say of $365,000 total of uh City of Grand Island dollars and federal portion is 1.46 million dollars, and this is just to kind of keep the design process going and uh the construction would be planned for 2027.
18:48Okay, capital equipment.
18:50Um this is a small list for us, actually.
18:54Um that what we usually have.
18:55Um I don't really have anything that the only thing I might point out is we have a have a turf tank robotic um line painter, which I thought was brings us in the 21st century with uh some of our just to try to help be efficient with some of the some of our our workloads um so that the the painter can actually do soccer fields and baseball fields, and you still it's not like walk away from it, you still have to babysit it a little bit, but you're you're gonna have some time maybe to go work on that irrigation head or you know, go uh groom a field and that type of thing.
19:28So we we want to try this to you know try to to uh develop some efficiency.
19:34Uh I'm no you can't see this list, so I'm not gonna spend any time on it, but it's in your packet, it's our it's our five-year plan.
19:42Um it can and it will change, but again, I just it's in your packet, so if there's any questions.
19:50So the golf budget, like I said, the golf course submits a budget.
19:54Um that's I don't have their official budget, it is in your packet.
19:58I think it was like the last page in your package.
20:00So if you have any questions on that, I know like I said, the landscapes team is here for any questions.
20:04And this is kind of just a uh I guess a highlight of the golf course budget, and I see there's lights on, so Mitch.
20:15Are you sliding into golf course now, or will this still be under the park's umbrella?
20:19Because I have questions.
20:20This is yeah, we're slow, yeah.
20:21We're basically sliding into the golf course and the shooting park now.
20:24So before we get into those two, I've still got questions from your previous presentation.
20:30Looking at the four big projects that you're talking about, and I know we've talked about this capital, and we've not nailed anything down yet this year, and I'm not sure when that will be nailed down for exactly what projects will be approved and which will be funded and how they'll be funded.
20:46That still has yet to be determined.
20:49But out of those projects, there's only one that I'm aware of that has a recommendation of being completed within this next fiscal year, and that's the island oasis, the big one, the 16 million dollar.
21:02If that was approved, they said they think they could have that done.
21:05On those others, what is your guesstimate when we're looking at Ryder Park?
21:14Yeah, we'll have it done.
21:15Uh the plan is we're gonna try to award it on October 14th, and we will have baseball games on if the if everything goes to the plan, we'll have baseball games on there by May 25th.
21:25Well, that could and should be done in the next fiscal year.
21:29So that could be two projects that could be done with deliverables.
21:33The Stalley Park train project, a lot of parts in there.
21:39How does that pencil out as far as completion?
21:44We're gonna we're gonna have uh kind of wade through that a little bit, but as I mentioned, the design is almost done.
21:50We're we're planning to bid that yet in the next you know, um, 30 to 60 days, probably, and we could have construction going as soon as this if we have good weather this year and into the spring.
22:02We think that that one will be done in 2026 as well.
22:06Everything that was on the plan you think could be done within a fiscal year?
22:12Okay, all goes well.
22:15Well, there's three that could be done with deliverables to the community, people that can enjoy those things.
22:21I'm not gonna talk about the South Local Trail thing right now.
22:27Probably talk about that in the next meeting.
22:30Uh the Pier Lake thing, you said that's possible you could push that back.
22:34So there's some dollars there that might be able to be utilized this year, and that could be pushed back.
22:38So that's something that we can factor in as we're talking about capital here this year, it sounds like I would yes, we still there's there's some just some legwork to do there yet.
22:49So it may take a yeah, it might be next, it might be 27 by the time we get it complete.
22:55Then you talked about Grace Abbott tennis court, which I live a block and a half away from.
23:02Is that going to be you you see that being a tennis slash pickleball development?
23:08Uh it's not being used much as tennis right now, but I don't know if we could have a dual purpose court set up, or if you what's your thoughts on how what's the plan on that?
23:20So that that's the I mean, honestly, that's it does need to be rehabbed.
23:24It's in it's it's it's it's due to be rehabbed.
23:28Um we yeah, we're gonna look at both options.
23:30I think that's we've been kind of looking at what can we um what can we do with it, who can we serve, and who's gonna benefit the most?
23:39But we do not have we don't have a pickleball court layout for it yet, or yeah, so we're still in the planning stages for that as well.
23:47I would sure recommend that you look at that, even if there's a way to dual purpose that with additional lines.
23:52We do that at the field house.
23:54No, but once people know what the lines are, they can play and um tennis.
24:00As a guy that lives block and a half away, I probably see less than 50 people a year even standing on that court.
24:07But I that obviously I'm not there every minute of the day, but I just don't see it utilized hardly at all for tennis.
24:12But I guarantee it would be utilized for pickleball, and if we make a dual purpose, that would be great.
24:17Then lastly, I want to commend you and everybody that was involved, our volunteers and everybody on this beautiful Stalley Park garden that's been transformed, just transform that place beyond words.
24:34It it's just incredibly beautiful.
24:37And we've got the Hornity Pavilion there, and we've got all of that.
24:43What is the plan to make sure that that looks just as good three years from now as it looks today?
24:49Because I hope the answer isn't volunteers, because we're gonna be asking too much for volunteers to keep that up, in my opinion.
24:56So, what's the thoughts on that?
25:00So what's the thoughts on that and the maintenance of that to ensure that it looks as great forever as it does right now?
25:04Well, first of all, I echo what you said.
25:06The the uh and again, that's why I mentioned at the beginning the partnerships that we've had with some of our community, you know, you know, leaders, organizations has been amazing, and that's why we have something like that.
25:18The friends of the park, um, this wouldn't have happened without them, and and and donors, of course.
25:24Um, so yeah, it's and it has been a it has been a partnership because our staff's been down there working side by side, and it's it's uh just been fun to see.
25:34You know, um, you know, standing here before you today, this is the process that we use in the park in the city as we submit our our annual budgets, and that this is important to us, right?
25:46To to keep this up, so um, and we have a master plan.
25:51We will be requesting you know, you know, funding to support park facilities, and this is a park facility.
25:58Um, we don't have and I think maybe you talk about you know, if there's uh an endowment account or a fund or there is nothing like that for for that particular facility, um, like there is at the rider park purney playground.
26:13Um but uh again, this that's the process that we use.
26:17We we make requests to city council and to keep uh park facilities nice for the community.
26:24Yes, but we have fall to go through, we have spring of next year, which falls in this fiscal year budget that we're talking about.
26:33And do you have any funds in there to help take care of that area as needed without relying on volunteers, their abilities to try to keep it up?
26:45Do you have staff that's able to do that?
26:47I mean, because the stuff has to be watered, it has to, and when the leaves start falling, changes everything in there because the leaves have to be taken care of.
26:55We've got we've got a beautiful gem there.
26:59We have to make sure that it looks that good, and I it's just through some maintenance, probably on a weekly basis, and then once we get into fall and the leaves are fallen and the snow's on the ground, it's not an issue, but come spring, it is an issue again, and the funds need to be available, the personnel needs to be available.
27:16I don't know what that plan is, and I get very nervous to see all of that beautiful work go to pot if we don't have an actual plan to make sure it stays up.
27:26Yeah, I mean, right now it is uh again a partnership.
27:30We our staff is down there working um side by side with the volunteers.
27:34If the volunteers you know were to step away, then we would have to um spend more time down there as a staffing standpoint, and then I would see yes, probably more requests coming to city council for additional staffing, you know, to take care of those things that are important.
27:50But uh, you know, right now today we're working side by side.
27:54I mean, our staff is working side by side with the volunteers, and it is uh it's a beautiful park right now.
28:01It is very beautiful, and I would I would not advocate for volunteers to go away.
28:05I just want the city not to be dependent on volunteers to maintain what we have that's that beautiful, and that would go across everything.
28:15And it might even mean contracting with somebody else that does that kind of work, so you don't have to do it because again, this isn't gonna be a high maintenance every day.
28:24You have to be out there, it's gonna have to be spot checked occasionally by people that know what they're doing.
28:30Our volunteers played a huge role in that.
28:32I think they still some still want to be actively engaged, and that's great, and I would sure encourage that.
28:39The knowledge they have is invaluable on how some of that works, and I just don't want that to fall apart, nor would anybody that's appreciated what's come from that.
28:50I I totally agree, and I just I do want to say, you know, even in our parks and rec master plan, we want you know, I think yes, we have to adapt, and if if uh the volunteers were to disappear, then we would you know have to change our you know, change some of our requests and that type of thing, but we want to foster more volunteers.
29:09We as part of our parks and rec master plan.
29:11We want to have more partnerships.
29:13We want we hope we can grow it in the future.
29:15We hope that that that becomes more of a community pride to be able to um you know work again, work side by side with city staff and and uh have these beautiful parks facilities.
29:26Okay, all righty, thank you, Mr.
29:30Um your slide that had the spread sheet zoomed out.
29:37Uh I had to pull it up on my phone just to kind of look at the the numbers at the bottom of that.
29:43So those numbers for the budget for 26 for those of us that can't squint that much, it's 32 million dollars, and then it drops to three million next year's budget 2.7, 2.7-ish, 2.6 and change.
30:02This is with the 15.9 for the island oasis.
30:10But we know that we've talked about doing that potentially is bonding that and doing some different things.
30:16How much Patrick, maybe you're the one to answer that.
30:20What how would we bond that?
30:22How much is that going to actually cost us over what time period?
30:27Have we decided that yet?
30:31Depending on if we want to use cash reserves, how much we want to borrow.
30:35And this particular asset, I would I would if we borrow, depending on how much we borrow, I'd go up to 20 years because that would be probably the life of it.
30:46We're gonna talk about that more Thursday.
30:50Uh I guess my question for you then is there's not, I mean, relatively after this year, as you said, the stars are aligned.
31:00We drop from 30 or yeah, 32 million down to three million.
31:04Are you anticipating any more at all in these next four years?
31:09I mean, like I I said, this would have been a probably a normal budget year if it wasn't for the the big four coming into like is it alignment right now, but you you never know.
31:19I mean, you never know what project comes up.
31:22You know, sometimes it's uh a priority of uh you know the community that kind of brings it to the top or whatever, but right now I don't have anything else sitting on my desk.
31:32I've these four projects are really what I have right now, the big ones.
31:37And I guess just to echo something or rephrase the question, maybe that Mitch asked.
31:43Can you get all four of those done in a year?
31:47That's that's the plan.
31:48I think so I I honestly think our friends from the public works department's gonna help us with the trail.
31:53So I think that's gonna take some that'll that'll help with that.
31:57Um the uh the ball field, the baseball field, like I said, it's gonna go fast.
32:03Um and I think the uh um so that'll that'll that'll be quick, and then the Stalley Park will probably be a little longer.
32:10So yes, I think we're in good shape to be able to handle them all.
32:15And then with the writer, uh the whatever happened the last meeting we talked about that.
32:24The bid you have, are you confident that that can still go out in October when we've pushed it back?
32:30Or are you gonna have to rebid?
32:32Are you behind is that gonna the uh contractor has indicated that he will hold his prices, so that's a really big thing, yes.
32:43All right, thank you.
32:51Not a knock to you, but we've got three projects in the fire now that need to be done.
32:56One of them's the trail to Camp Augustine, the other ones Ryder Park, and the third one is the one that's been kicked down the road so long that I I almost remember when it was a plan, uh, is the water park.
33:16And that's you know, you're looking at probably 23 million with those three projects.
33:22If we do the water park the way it was suggested.
33:25Now, the only reason that the stars lined up for you is because we probably gave you the money, would be my guess for your capital projects and stuff.
33:35But we need to sit down and figure out what we're gonna do instead of kicking the can down the road on all these big projects.
33:43It just and the five percent a year growth on some of them is a lot.
33:50You know, we're up to over 15 million now on the water park, and it didn't start out that much.
33:57Uh so I I'm not dips in you.
34:04I'm gets in the council.
34:06We need to we need to sit down and work on this.
34:09Otherwise, we're next year we're gonna be at the same place we were this year and the year before.
34:16I remember going through the same thing with probably eight years ago.
34:22So you know, we need to sit down and figure out what we're gonna do instead of just kind of talking and kicking the can down the road.
34:30It might be painful, and we may have to bond it.
34:34But it needs to get done so we can get on these little projects.
34:39That's all I need to say, Todd.
34:45In the paper you talked about, you mentioned closing down these little recreation areas around town.
34:52Is that still in your master plan?
34:55I hope not, because that serves the very youngest members of our town.
35:00No, not really to shut down.
35:02We're probably our plan is to try one.
35:05We're we're going to try what we think is a slot, and we really need to we we'll need to um figure that out for this spring.
35:11So that's something we'll do this winter.
35:13But our plan was to just plant the bottoms of them with more of a uh um you know native grasses and that type of thing, and so not as much mowing.
35:23And and our plan is to do one, and and quite honestly, if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
35:30We won't do anymore.
35:31And so we just thought we could try one and see how it goes.
35:37Second, the South Lucas Trail.
35:40How did that slip into your budget?
35:42I don't think member of the council ever talking about that seriously.
35:47And as far as I'm concerned, until something is done by the state at Camp Augustine, this is a no-go.
35:53It's uh a sidewalk to nowhere.
35:55There's nothing down there.
35:56You go to the country, go to the end, you turn around and come back past cornfields.
36:01And this is not the right time, in my opinion, Port.
36:06And you have plenty of other big number but big dollar projects in your budget.
36:11This would be one that could really wait until we see some progress at Augustine.
36:24Uh Todd, I'm actually up to your current slide.
36:27So we were talking about the golf there, and one thing I can tell you, because there's a five-year view in front of us for the golf.
36:33You know, the it's good to have the positive trending for the rounds, the revenues has a positive trend.
36:39Um, but I the one chart that I couldn't see with you know, even in my packet, I couldn't see it.
36:45Um, so is capital for the golf course.
36:48I know that we've had irrigation problems off and on, and I think maybe there's still some more going on.
36:54Um is there capital for the golf course this year?
37:01Um the uh the capital for the golf course is um tree removal planting, um, a carryover for the maintenance um building and roof replacement and a cart path repair.
37:15So that is the that is the capital uh request from for this year.
37:21Okay, if you had an irrigation problem, and maybe you can answer if we do or don't, um maybe landscapes can uh where would that come from if you didn't have it here from an irrigation standpoint?
37:34Yeah, if we because we've we've had a case where I think it was what $300,000, you know, a decade ago where all of a sudden we had a major problem with the irrigation system.
37:43Those things are big dollars when you have a you know us the land the size of a golf course.
37:48So if we did have an irrigation problem and it needs major fix, where does the money come from if it's not here?
37:55Well, it ultimately all comes from the city.
37:57So if we did a just an operational repair, if they had some repairs that they would do to keep it up, then they would there would just be operational repairs, and it again those would be city funds or a capital project, you know.
38:09If if you were going to replace the system, say or what have you, then that would be a capital project that uh um that we would put into the capital um budget.
38:18So if it did happen, could they use that your hundred thousand dollar contingency?
38:21Is that what that would be for?
38:23Um potentially um if if needed, I don't know that um I don't know that uh I I guess I don't know the scope of it for sure, but yeah, yes, potentially that hundred thousand dollars could be used for any project, honestly.
38:40Um so the shooting park is the the other one.
38:44Um the Heartland Public Shooting Park.
38:47Um we've recommended um 47,000 for a drainage solution for the trap and skeet fields, um $58,000 for new sporting clay loop enhancement, and then carryover items from the house, uh trap and skeet field, um, and uh shooting bay prep or yeah, shooting bay projects.
39:10Um totaling almost 370,000.
39:15Um but at this time, if there's no more questions for me, I might give an opportunity to uh the Hornaday team um and the landscapes team if they have if you know just in case uh council has questions for them.
39:29Um I was gonna make a special note.
39:32I know um the shooting park, um, the Hornaday team had had given us a um a uh request to uh um renovate the a storage building.
39:43It was a 390,000 dollar request, it's in your packet.
39:46Um we had we were looking at that to be in part of our five-year plan, but I think Jason's here, he can probably talk to you more about that.
39:53I I know he was hoping for that to be sooner than that, so it's in our five, it's in our five year plan, but it's not in this plan.
40:00So, and again, I think Jason's here, he can talk, he can talk to you.
40:04Thank thank you, Mr.
40:06Uh Todd, uh I have uh a suggestion for you.
40:11Um for you and your staff.
40:15The last couple of months it's come out with a study that there's like only one or two parks west of highway 281.
40:25My suggestion for you and your staff is to consider the new subdivisions that are being developed and take a proactive approach and get an option to buy some of that land, or buy some land for future parks.
40:42Um, you'll save a lot of money that way before the values really go up.
40:47But but that's that's just my thoughts on future development and being proactive for it.
40:57What's your thoughts on that?
40:58No, you know, I I uh I totally agree.
41:01That is one area that we're um targeting.
41:03We do own the city, does own some some land by the uh um the uh fire station, the emergency management building, uh kind of by uh um the middle school there.
41:15So that's a potential park space that's to the west that we're hoping to develop in the future too.
41:19But but the um yes, good point.
41:22Yes, I just hate to see the can kick down the road and us not doing anything, especially where when we're growing the way we are.
41:31Uh, we should look at the parts of the city that are underserved and they're and that's where the development's going.
41:45So, with that, that that's my presentation.
41:47I'd I'd like to give an opportunity if uh, like I said, the Hornet team or the landscapes team would uh like to say anything.
41:59Jason, do you want to come up?
42:00Okay, and then council members, just use your speaker button, not your lights, so we can keep track of the speakers.
42:08Thanks for taking the time.
42:09We appreciate everything, and and we appreciate the opportunity to run the shooting park.
42:13Uh, the big joke, as you guys probably have all heard, that's what happens when my dad goes to meetings unattended, and we are thoroughly enjoying that opportunity.
42:21Um the uh we did have a meeting late yesterday with Todd and Laura and and Patrick.
42:27Um, and in the slides didn't have an opportunity to get corrected.
42:30The sporting clay loop enhancement is actually 97,000.
42:34That is something that started um under the the city administration, um, and that was part of a 4-H request.
42:41So I just wanted to correct that.
42:43We'll get you guys all corrections.
42:44The trap and skeet drainage was 47,000, and then the storage building, just for clarification, is a World War II building that we are concerned about.
42:54Um it's uh it's fantastically built.
42:57Um the reason it's listed at 390,000, and we can debate this, but I probably won't do it with a microphone and a newspaper reporter here.
43:04Is there's some asbestos there.
43:06Um, if we didn't have to talk about that, we could probably do it for about $60,000, but uh wasn't allowed to talk about any of that with uh city officials in the room.
43:14Um, but we we're not sure that it's gonna make it through another season.
43:19And the way we're looking at the park is this is our asset as a whole, and really what we want to do is we want to get all those deferred asset issues that have been kicked down the road for so long up to par.
43:34Um, we don't care, we have paid all the expenses to bring the equipment up to speed, all the other things.
43:41We've fixed tractors, we've fixed golf carts, we're fixing all those things.
43:45We bought uh a shed that sure should you kick us off, we can actually take the shed with us, but that's where all the golf carts will be parked, all those things.
43:53But as far as the capital structures, those are yours, and we want to get those protected and taken care of so that we can frankly get to the business of marketing the park.
44:03Um we had an impact according to the CVB, we brought in about 2.1 million dollars to the city this last year.
44:11We think we can multiply that by fairly substantial numbers.
44:15We're a pretty good marketing organization.
44:17We truly like doing that.
44:19Um frankly, I don't want to stand here and talk to you guys about World War II structures.
44:24I want to have places where we can put prizes and other things for people that can come enjoy the park and we can store them.
44:30And so that's what we're asking for.
44:31That's what we're looking to do.
44:33We do have a five-year plan that we plan on putting in front of you.
44:37And frankly, this is our second go-around last year.
44:39We really knew when we did this budget thing.
44:42Um, if you come out and see what we've done, man, the place looks great.
44:46Even I got a while from Laura yesterday when she came out there.
44:49I think Patrick was impressed.
44:51But if you come out and see it, it looks like the old ski club used to on 281, which was just beautiful.
45:00I don't know how many trucks of white rock we've put out there.
45:02We've got over 200 gallons of paint and stain that we've paid how many high school kids?
45:0813 kids every summer just to come out and paint because they can't drive because HR regulations won't let them drive golf carts and lawnmowers, apparently.
45:15So we put them to get to work painting.
45:17So those are our asks.
45:19We're not trying to be greedy.
45:20We're not trying to be overreaching.
45:22That's what we're looking for.
45:23We appreciate your consideration.
45:25I turn it over if you want to ask financials.
45:28If you want to ask operations, Tom's here, and really Tom's the guy who boots on the ground.
45:32Um we appreciate it, but really we are enjoying this opportunity.
45:36Um if you have any specific questions, happen to answer them.
45:39They're the ones really doing the work.
45:40But that is our logic is we want to protect your asset, make it look good so that we can actually run the park and have people out there shooting and bring them to Grand Island.
45:51Thank you for being here.
45:52You're being here in your presentation.
45:54I think it gives all of us great confidence in your management ability.
45:58I'm never letting my father come to a city council meeting ever again.
46:07Just answer questions, ma'am.
46:13Mike Osberg, did you want to speak to Mike Osberg, and I live at 1626 Coventry Lane.
46:30And uh first thing I have to admit to you, I'm a golf fanatic.
46:36Consequently, I go to different places to play golf, different states, different cities, and I'm here to tell you that we have probably one of the nicest courses around anywhere.
46:51Now, the second thing is about having a nice course is how how is it managed?
47:00We had a lot of players had their doubts when we had the new management system in.
47:07And uh those doubts have all been relieved.
47:11They've done a heck of a job.
47:14And I'm just here to announce the fact from a golfer standpoint.
47:19I'm proud to have anybody come to town and play at our municipal golf course.
47:28Suzanne Osberg, did you want to speak I live at the same address that my husband does, and um I appreciate you letting me even speak.
47:46Um, I want to compliment Todd McCoy because I've had a garden on Suke's Lake for 35 years, and um I've done this garden.
47:55It started with Ken Gannott.
47:57I used to teach at Wasburn Gates, and he wanted us to do a garden.
48:01Kim Densdale wanted us to do it with, so we said we could do it because we had this area right in front of the lake that we live.
48:09And I'm telling you, we have uh burn survivors, we have uh from veterans' homes, the veterans, wounded people coming from the wars.
48:20We've got different all those years, um, cancer survivors.
48:25That lake is walked around like you wouldn't believe, and they admire uh the wolves.
48:32Wolf just died this week, but the Willson I have a garden, and and there's a it's kept up, and if I ever need it weeded, I I give uh Todd an email.
48:43You've got great messaging, and he comes, he came right the next day around the area, or if they'll pick up my weeds because it's the cities that owns it there.
48:52But I think it's really important that we we keep up these small areas.
48:58Now, the president I'm a tea, I've been a teacher and a sub my whole life, besides doing many other things, but I think the presidential ward's going to be started again.
49:08And I ended up being asked to sub PE a lot, and a lot of the kids anymore can't get around the uh fields in enough time, you know.
49:19The they uh are needing a lot of exercise, they're doing a lot of time on the phone.
49:24So maybe you could incorporate some of these parks and some of this area with fitness goals on timing areas, and they do sit-ups, push-ups, pull-ups, um, and they have to run, and they all has to be timed, they're bringing that back in.
49:41So that would be so good because fitness is I walk.
49:44I'm one of the only people that walk, and I'm old.
49:47And I love my course.
49:48Now, getting to the golf course, they do an absolutely wonderful job, and I just saw Diane Ruthie come in, she does a wonderful job.
49:56And so she asked me to sub.
50:00Uh I I count um I I do the state golfing for counting goals, both girls and boys, but I thought our city course did a fabulous job, and I talked uh a lot of people told me how wonderful the course was, how great it looked, they loved it from all over that were at the course for the city golf this year, and it was beautiful.
50:22So I think it's a vital, bright, happy place.
50:25They're always happy to see everybody.
50:28It's a great place for exercise, and it's a great thing that you're doing.
50:33And I mean, that golf course is gorgeous, and and they're always always really nice to all of us.
50:40And I have a I've got golfers in my family, and I fact I had a daughter that went, she ended up scoring in the top 10 three times, and she ended up going to California to play at Sacramento.
50:52She had a two-handicapped for golf, so I never got her back.
50:55But anyway, it's a great sport.
50:58You guys are doing a wonderful job with this, and I'm really impressed with everything you're doing.
51:04Thank you, and thank you for bringing up the importance of exercise, especially for youth.
51:11Uh Greg Geis, do you want to speak my name's Greg Geis?
51:24I live at uh 1016 South Shady Bend Road.
51:27I'm the past president and current board member of the Grand Island Men's Golf Association.
51:33So we've been working with uh landscapes since they they came to town and took over the golf course.
51:39Um as uh Grand Island Men's Golf Association.
51:43We think they've done a great job the last five years.
51:46Um the course has been recognized as most improved.
51:50Um anybody that's been out there sees the course is in better shape, the buildings in much better shape.
51:56Um I'm just curious why we're not extending that their contract another year, or why we're looking at you know, proposals for for others as far as we're concerned.
52:09A required competitive process.
52:12Okay, but you know, I just speak for the our members, and we're very happy with uh the way they're running the golf course.
52:20And so thank you, Jared Pulse.
52:33Thank you, Mayor and Council.
52:35I appreciate that as far as the golf course is concerned.
52:38Yeah, those uh golf cart trails need some work.
52:41Uh you could remove more trees instead and and plant fewer and save a little money that way, too.
52:49Uh, but basically on uh just some of the other issues, the big four.
52:53The the train in Stolly Park, you know, you got a bunch of people, you got some people that contributed a significant amount of money, but raising 25% of the projected cost.
53:09Uh then the taxpayers will foot the rest of the bill.
53:12You know, one of the things that when you're elected to represent the people, if you asked, I think per person, they would all say reduce property taxes.
53:21And the only way to do that is to cut spending.
53:24Now, this this train is a wonderful idea.
53:26I like to see little kids screaming through the tunnels, and I know there's some contributors that would love to see their name in lights on various features of this train, but this is really something that needs to be pushed down the road.
53:39Just kick the can down the road.
53:41This is this considering where your spending is right now, this is this is outrageous.
53:48And I haven't even got to the island oasis park.
53:51Uh you've got three million for regular maintenance.
53:55If you put 15 million dollars into a facility that is open for what, 90 days a year.
54:03What kind of economic sense does that make?
54:09What would you what were your maintenance charges?
54:12What will your maintenance uh be?
54:15What would that cost?
54:16What will maintenance cost if you go to those $15 million water park?
54:20And I know you've tried to extend the season with well, we'll have a uh putt putt golf course or something, but it really you this is this is an outrageous request.
54:33You know, you it's nice.
54:35Oh, the little kids will love it, but the little kids don't pay the property taxes, okay?
54:39And so I'm saying this is a this is an item that just sorry, this this just is not feasible economically.
54:49Uh we got uh the again the trail, and I was really happy to hear someone call it a trail to nowhere.
54:56You don't have a camp there yet.
55:02You know, these are things that can be pushed down the road, there's savings there and the rider park field.
55:07Can you imagine being an outfielder on artificial turf on a day like today?
55:13You've got and part of it is you got a million dollars in engineering fees.
55:19It's like you got grass out there, you're gonna say what two days you maybe get rained out two days a year, and you want to spend four, it'll be more than four million dollars to renovate to to put artificial turf, the major league baseball stadium.
55:33There's only five of them that have artificial turf.
55:36The rest are all natural grass.
55:38You know, it's it's like somebody is I got what's the term selling a bill of goods, and I really think you need to reconsider all of those expenditures and just let's just let's be reasonable about this, and none of those are okay.
56:05We'll move on to uh item five landscapes.
56:10I'm sorry, Mayor Mayor Steele and Counselors.
56:12My name is Justin Arlt.
56:14I'm with Landscapes Golf Management out of Lincoln, Nebraska.
56:18Just wanted to take a minute and thank you all and give you a high-level perspective of the relationship that we have with the city of Grand Island.
56:28It's been fantastic over five years.
56:30Uh we're really looking forward to 2026 and the budget that we presented.
56:36Um I just wanted to give everybody an opportunity to answer any ask any questions uh on the budget or the operations.
56:46We feel that uh we've improved the experience and the service providing value to the residents, taxpayers of Grand Island and the visitors that come here for golf and recreation at a very high level.
56:59Uh I couldn't help but notice for the first time I saw the vision that you posted that said the parks and rec wants to be the premier destination for recreation, and that marries up perfectly with us wanting to do the best we can and be the best uh in the golf market here in the region on your behalf.
57:22Um we feel like we've really made some good technology advancements.
57:26We've automated the tea sheets, upgraded uh the website, uh applications and online tea time capabilities.
57:34We've improved the golf cart fleet and GPS to provide a better experience, better pace of play, and monitor and geofence those carts to make sure Joel and his team can keep the golf course and the playing conditions as competitive and as good as we can to provide a lasting memory when people come out to play.
57:56Uh we've Sedana and our team have added food and beverage services, and the golf shop is added services, so people don't need to travel somewhere else for a bite to eat before or at the turn or afterwards.
58:11They can get something there.
58:13Um then merchandise-wise, same thing.
58:17They can get fit for golf clubs, they can get lessons, they can buy a shirt with the sense of pride with the Jack Rabbit logo on it, uh, so on so forth.
58:26And then last but certainly not least, we've improved the golf course conditions and the playing conditions to levels that you heard tonight with people that are very proud to bring family and friends and business people are very happy and more than more than happy to bring their folks out and entertain them at the public municipality of Jackrabbit.
58:48Um as you saw in one of the slides, we've we've had a five-year run of 20% uh increase of play, which is which is outstanding.
58:58We we expect that to continue uh in our tenure.
59:03Um that slide also showed the uh roughly half a million dollar improvement in top line revenues that help to uh improve the golf course and the experience.
59:16Um so with that I'm happy to answer any questions anybody might have uh on behalf of the Jack Rabbit team, uh Todd and uh landscapes golf management.
59:32No one is indicated, they have a question.
59:35Thank you for your presentation.
59:37My pleasure item 5B, fiscal year 2026 Heartland Events Center budget proposal venue works, Mr.
1:00:05Do I have to hit F5?
1:00:09And first I want to say to the Mayor Steele, uh City and Council members, thank you for having me.
1:00:14Always an honor to be here.
1:00:15I also want to say thank you for Stolly Park and Todd, you as well.
1:00:18Um when I moved here in January, I intentionally got a house right there across from Stalley Park, and I walk there twice a day every day.
1:00:25I've seen every improvement.
1:00:26I've seen the Hornity Plaza go up.
1:00:29Absolutely worth it to me from a city patron, just so you know it's wonderful.
1:00:33My dog loves it too.
1:00:34Um real quick, and this is Chelsea Steinkear, Director of Finance with VenueWorks, and I'm Kyler Tarwater.
1:00:40Um we'll run through our quick budget presentation real quick.
1:00:42And if you have any questions, of course, let me know.
1:00:46Um for building rent, um, basically the rent for the arena and the conference center, 294,850.
1:00:54Contractually obligated revenue, naming rights, premium signage, uh, display print advertising, event sponsorships, pouring rights.
1:01:01Um, we're budgeting uh 400,986 uh thousand next for this coming year, this coming fiscal year.
1:01:08Um reimbursed event expense, event expenses 406,319, with a food and beverage revenue of 1.1 million, roughly.
1:01:18Um other revenues include ticket merchandise, fees, et cetera, of 21,265,000 for total revenues predicted to be 4,36, and 603 dollars.
1:01:31For expenses, of course, cost of goods sold, a huge portion of that at 1.9 million.
1:01:36Um, personnel costs, um, 1.4 million, um, general administrative costs at 63,000 and some change.
1:01:44Um, occupancy costs of about a half a million dollars, um, services and operation costs of uh just shy of 200,000, event expenses at about a half a million, a little over half a million, and food and beverage expenses at about 131,000 for a total expense of 4.8 million.
1:02:02And in summary, um revenues of 4.3 million with expenses of about 4.8 uh with a loss of about 500,000 dollars.
1:02:11Uh the owner operating investment, the hotel occupation tax with the half million brings us to a net income of roughly roughly even.
1:02:18We're a little shy, of course, these are just estimates.
1:02:21So that's what we're looking at for our budget for 2026.
1:02:30Nickerson has a question.
1:02:33Yes, got a couple of questions for you here.
1:02:35First of all, the food and beverage revenue projection, you've got that over a million dollars.
1:02:41Is that based on current sales you've seen, or how did you arrive at that number?
1:02:45Do you feel comfortable with that?
1:02:46Chelsea speak to that a little bit too if we want to.
1:02:49So for the events that we've had so far, I took an average per cap from those events to estimate the the per cap that we applied to the budget.
1:02:58So we finally have a little history.
1:03:01When we came in, everything is based on estimated cost of what we knew from other places, estimate expenses, estimated revenues.
1:03:07Now that we've had a nine-month window on what we do here, um we've taken some averages and and some extrapolated numbers to figure out okay.
1:03:14Now we're we're zeroing in on what our real numbers look like.
1:03:17So this year it's still a little bit, you know, we have only had nine months, so it's still a little bit of a best estimate.
1:03:22By next year, we should have some pretty strong numbers that are um pretty identifiable.
1:03:27Have you been able to introduce your kiosks and things like that that you're wanting to do?
1:03:32Sorry, I couldn't quite hear you.
1:03:36Has that been set up the way you want to?
1:03:37Yeah, they're called grab and go.
1:03:38We call them grab and go.
1:03:39Okay, grab and goes.
1:03:40They're branded with Heartland Events Center on the side, and um they've really the real theory between our between our grab and goes, our bars, and our concessions is to eliminate some of alleviate some of the lines at the concession stands.
1:03:51So if somebody just wants a bottle of water or one quick coke or a beer, they can go to that grab and go grab one without having to wait in line for people that are ordering hamburgers and hot dogs and such like that.
1:03:59So it's really streamlined it, which, as you know, the more points of sale, the quicker you move people through, the more revenue we're able to generate.
1:04:06So we've been really pleased with that.
1:04:07Um and it looks a whole lot better now that um we just got the stickers for the sides of that, and it sounds like a really simple thing, but it really does change it.
1:04:14Now it actually looks like a kiosk instead of just a couple of black walls holding off the Pepsi stands.
1:04:21The other question was you were talking about naming rights and all that stuff.
1:04:25Are those all pretty well I'm gonna say set in stone?
1:04:30Did the do you change from year to year to give other people opportunities or these bid over five-year periods, three-year periods?
1:04:37How does all that work into the revenue stream that you're looking at?
1:04:41Um the naming rights deals usually we try to do five to ten years because when you invest the dollars to actually change the name, it's a there's a marketing investment, there's a signage investment, it's pretty strong.
1:04:52Um, so you don't want to change that every every couple of years.
1:04:54You also have the problem if you change every two years, nobody knows what to call your building, which we've all seen that in some places.
1:05:00Today it's you know Stevensfield, next day it's Pepsi Field, and that's really not a good method for good sponsorship marketing.
1:05:07So the bigger the size of the sponsorship, the more likely it's going to be a five or ten year opportunity.
1:05:12For a smaller opportunity like the suites that we uh lease out the suites, we do that on an annual basis.
1:05:17You can do it a one-year, two-year, or three-year contract on the suites.
1:05:21Uh we're probably it's probably a good mix of about 30 percent or at about one year, 30 percent or about two years, and 30 percent are about three years.
1:05:28And they get an incentive.
1:05:29If they sign for a three-year deal, um the increase that we build into the program every year is much less, versus if somebody buys it year by year, they might be affected by the increase that we that we change to.
1:05:40And and there will be a significant increase this year uh to the two suites that we have available to sell, and they'll jump up quite a bit.
1:05:46So the original suite holders that have already contracted are somewhat grandfathered into a much lower cost of what the new suite holders will have.
1:05:57Thank you both for being here.
1:06:03The city clerk will take a couple minutes to reset our system for our regular meeting.