everybody um welcome to the December 2nd 2025 City Council regular meeting as a reminder we have Spanish interpretation services available in person and via Zoom.

On point language solutions is in the back left corner if anyone needs assistance with interpretation services they will give you a device so you could listen in in another language and uh I can't see who's back there either Victor or Nicholas will now provide information on how to receive interpretation services if you're in need of them.

Thanks Nicholas Hello yes thank you at all those can necessarily interpretation in espanholic atrás está el booth con los servicios de auriculares para que puedan tenerlos y van a receber interpretación simultanea inmediata por internet uh mirar in la parte de abajo in la barra de abajo el globo terracco allí in ese globo you apparecer la función de lenguajes language and inglés you tienen la opción de English y espanoles clic in espanol you gonna receive those interpretation simultanea in espanol muchas gracias thank you so much thank you so much appreciate it can we please have a roll call councilmember Johnson Councilmember Nagangast here Councilmember Penrose here Vice Mayor Redick here Mayor Brownstone here we have a quorum thank you um I now ask that you all join me to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance thank you to the college thank you can I have a motion for approval of the agenda so move second all those in favor all those against motion approved we will now move on to we don't have any proclamations but we're very lucky this evening we have a presentation from the Alcove youth advisory group and there'll be a number of students here and I guess each person might have some chance to present a slide or two and uh we look forward to it so welcome and thanks for coming this evening appreciate it.

Good evening Mr Mayor City Council and community my name is Ryan Lopez good evening city council my name is Adrian Vasquez Contreras good evening city council my name is Emma Ta.

Good evening City Council my name is Scarlett Cortez good evening City Council my name is Isla Hackman.

And we're gonna be talking to you guys about Alcove and more specifically the youth advisory council now you may be wondering what is Alcove Alcove is the third place for youth 12 to 25 years to find community support advice or even just a moment of pause every October center is guided by an active youth advisory group comprised of young people from the local community who represent diversity in race ethnicity gender identity expression, sexual orientation, lived experience, ability, and socioeconomic status.

The goal is to ensure that youth that the that voice, that youth voice and experience is included in the development and service of each center.

Alcome services, mental health, physical health, substance use, peer of support, family support, and education and employment.

The youth advisory group is a group of young leaders ages twelve to twenty-five.

Oh, yeah, no worries.

The youth advisory group is a group of young leaders ages 12 to 25 dedicated to improving mental health services and advocating for the needs of youth on the coastside.

Our mission is to empower young people to become leading voices in refining mental wellness, reducing stigma, and increasing access to youth mental health support.

Our vision is to revolutionize mental health for young people.

The youth advisory group's core values are giving the youth in the community a voice that is diverse, inclusive, and advocates for the needs of young people.

We are accessible, we normalize conversations, promote social justice, and educate communities.

We have a holistic and empathetic approach to mental wellness that is free of judgment.

Now you may be wondering what is a third place?

It's something that we keep throwing around.

Well, it comes from uh one of Ray Oldenberg's works from nineteen eighty-nine, The Great Good Place, and we have a quote to describe it where it says the designation for a great variety of public places, a host of regularly voluntary, informal, and happily anticipated gatherings of individuals beyond the realms of home and work.

Now, if we bring that back down the earth for a little bit, what that really means is that third places are social spots where we could socialize and unwind away from home and work.

Or first and second places respectively.

Third places allow us to forget about the stresses of the day, build new relationships, and strengthen pre-existing connections.

Why is Alcove needed?

Why third place is needed?

Half Moon Bay lacks a third place, suitable and attractive to youth.

Growing up on the coast side, the only option was really hanging out at round table or driving 40 minutes over the hill.

And with as little opportunities as Halfman Bay has, communities like Pescadero, La Honda, San Gregorio, and even more have fewer places for youth to go.

Youth loneliness, anxiety, and depression have all spiked since the pandemic.

In addition, the COVID 19 pandemic resulted in higher costs and shorter hours for many businesses, further making these third places less accessible to youth after school or work.

Alcove Halfman Bay Center.

Frequent and recurring events to one of our sister locations in San Mateo.

YAG event examples include game nights, arts and craft workshops, volunteer opportunities, nature repeats, and youth outreach workshops.

The Alcove Center at Half Moon Bay will provide a free third place for youth that is easily accessible.

We will offer things like a quiet area to study, a welcoming air space to hang out with friends, mental health services designed to be a one-stop shop for youth.

Our location will be near the Stone Pine Shopping Center, which is close to both the high school and Cunha Middle School.

Our center will have designated areas for services, leisure, and essential and vital resources.

Thank you for listening to our presentation.

If you have any questions or comments, please ask.

So thanks.

Thanks again.

Any questions or from this?

Is this a a place that's already open in Half Moon Bay or under planning?

What's the stance?

Um it's set to be open later next year, hopefully by April or depending on the weather, really.

Is there a particular location?

Yeah, we actually have a lease sign for 255 Main Street.

It's next to the Harry Salon across from the Halfman Bay Coffee Shopping Center.

Central location.

Sounds great.

Thank you.

Keep us posted.

All right, thanks.

And come again when you got it open.

Talk more.

Thanks.

Okay, next on our agenda is uh some announcements, community activities.

Um how many of you are going, raise your hand if you go into night of lights Friday.

You all familiar with Night of Lights?

Okay.

If you're not familiar or you've never been, it's great.

Starts at six o'clock.

There's incredible floats come down the street, there's music.

Um brings a lot of folks downtown to visit shops.

And if it gets cold, you can go into IDS Hall, has a whole craftsfair.

So please don't forget that's this Friday night, and the parade begins at six o'clock.

Um there's also the lighted boat festival uh at the harbor on the 13th.

Um, and that starts at four o'clock.

And it's another great event.

Come on down, you can go on the boats, you can have chowder, and they decorate their boats beautifully.

So that's what's coming up.

Anything else?

All right, that's it for now.

We'll keep you posted on anything new going on.

Great.

Um, a quick report out from our recent closed session meetings.

Uh thank you, mayor, council community.

The uh council did meet in closed session earlier this evening to discuss two items.

One item of existing litigation, the case um Ellingston versus City of Hap Moon Bay, and a second item regarding public employment, uh, city attorney.

Nothing to report out from those two items.

However, I did want to report out from another recent closed session regarding anticipated litigation to announce that the city of Hap Moon Bay and all 20 cities in the county have joined the County of San Mateo's lawsuit against the state of California to recover approximately 38 million dollars in vehicle license fee funding shortfall, and that lawsuit was originally filed in August, and the 20 um cities joined uh just a couple weeks ago.

Um, there is more information on the County of San Mateo's website.

Um, they have a press release um on the county website with more information and the case number.

Thank you.

Thank you, Catherine.

Appreciate the update.

Um City Manager, I don't believe we have any updates to council.

Uh we just have the one we talked about.

Okay, great.

So and then one quick thing, but you've already covered it.

So if um there we go.

Uh real quick, very simple.

Take a picture of this QR code.

Uh, the county of San Mateo is doing a countywide survey about emergency preparedness and um concerns of residents.

And at this point, uh the coast site is very, very underrepresented.

So it only takes about 10 minutes, and it's really crucial if you live or work here on the coast to respond.

So please grab that screenshot and fill it out.

If uh if you're listening and can't do that, uh if you just go to the county website, which is smcgov.org and search emergency prep survey, it'll come up.

So please do that.

And then I do have one more slide just to reiterate something that the mayor shared.

Um, so the nights nights of lights, it's plural.

Um, started with the tree lighting last Friday night in MacDrucha Plaza and a great event.

I think there was karaoke as well, seen some pretty good pictures of that.

Um this Friday is the parade, and it's amazing.

I hope everybody comes.

And then there's two more events on Main Street to round out the events this year.

So check it out.

It's a lot of fun.

Yeah, thanks to the chamber for planning and hosting.

And that's it.

Great.

Thanks a lot, Matthew.

Appreciate that.

Okay.

So we're gonna move on to public forum.

Um if you want to uh speak up at public forum, fill out a form.

I think most people have already.

And the way public forum works.

If you're not familiar, each person gets three minutes to speak.

And there's a timer up front.

It lights up, and there's a tone.

So there's a tone at the two and a half minute mark, meaning you have 30 seconds left, and then there's a final tone at the three-minute mark, means you should be wrapping it up.

Okay.

Also, public forum is um to talk about anything you want, items that aren't on the uh formal agenda, items that are on the agenda, the public will again have an opportunity to comment on any of the agendized items.

So um we will start with um Deborah Penrose.

We are losing our democracy and becoming an autocracy.

Countries that slide from democracy tend to follow similar patterns.

Here are 12 markers that describe how the United States has regressed and is becoming an autocracy.

A political system limiting personal freedom, suppressing opposition, and controlling civil liberties by enforcing strict obedience at the expense of personal freedom.

Autocrats stifle dissent and speech, autocrats persecute political opponents, autocrats bypass the legislature.

Autocrats use the military for domestic control.

Autocrats defy the courts, autocrats declare national emergencies on false pretenses, autocrats vilify marginalized groups, autocrats control information and the news media, autocrats try to take over universities, autocrats create a cult of personality, autocrats use power for personal profit, autocrats manipulate the law to stay in power.

The frightening fact is that the United States has regressed on all 12 of these, and we have already lost what most of Americans hold dear, and that is our individual freedom and our ability to elect and hold responsible our leaders.

We no longer have the luxury of time.

Now is the time to protest.

Thank you.

Thank you, Deborah.

Our next speaker is Joaquin Jimenez, and then he will be followed by Stephen Adelshein, or Shime.

Sorry if I mispronounced that.

So first Joaquin and then Stephen Edelshine.

Good evening, honorable mayor, vice mayor, council members, city staff, uh, members of the public.

My name is Joaquin Jimenez.

And I'm here to give you a little debrief uh on the event that we had November 22nd.

Uh music and vendors.

We had the perfect weather, uh, beautiful day to be out in the downtown Halfum Bay.

We had our local vendors, and a lot of people came around.

And uh, thank you for allowing us to do this events.

Same location.

We have more vendors.

The same thing, our next event is uh December 120th, uh, same and join us.

We're gonna have some pinatas and uh other activities for the family.

Uh library is gonna be there with us.

Uh, and uh a lot of vendors, a lot of local vendors.

Thank you.

Uh another thing, you know, at last uh last uh the last meeting.

You know, there was a proclamation about, you know, Lenny Roberts, you know, and the work that she's done, you know, for the coast for the last 70 years.

I don't know if you're familiar with this what's going on at uh Point Reyes.

Yeah, I don't know if you're uh following uh the community is moving out.

You know, the uh they have less farmers, less farm workers.

Uh, the ranchers are losing their property.

Uh in Safir right now that we that could happen to us as well.

You know, Hafoom Bay, uh we're trying to do as much as possible to preserve our heritage of uh farming and ranching.

You know, not only Hafoon Bay, but here on the coast, you know, Monterra to uh Pescadero, Woodside, uh, and other areas.

And it's uh it's it's possible that it could happen.

You know, it's uh it's a lot of interest, you know, in people to develop Hafoon Bay and not to build housing for community, not to build housing for farm workers, not to be a housing for uh underserved community for low or low-income community.

You know, but there's an interest, you know, to develop Halfum Bay to make it a resort town, a resort community.

And that's something, you know, that uh 70 years, Lenny Roberts has done this work.

You know, she was able to keep Halfum Bay the way it is.

I know uh some of you have done a lot of work as well, you know, to make sure that Hafoon Bay stays where Hafoon Bay is.

It is a struggle.

You know, ranchers or local ranchers are struggling, you know, or local farmers are struggling.

Now think about uh our farm workers, the same thing.

You know, every year we have less farm workers, less farms.

You know, we have to do something about it.

Uh please, you know, think about, you know, we don't want to see Hafoon Bay overdeveloped, you know, with resorts and uh hotels.

Uh I mean, welcome to Hafoon Bay, but let's keep Hafoon Bay what it is.

You know, a ranching and farming community, and this is the only one that we have here on the coast in Osamateo County.

There's nothing else.

So think about that, please.

Thank you.

Thank you, Akin.

Our next speaker is Stephen Adelsheim, who will be followed by Sarah Kramer or Kramer, I'm not sure.

Yes, thanks, Steve.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Members of the city council, my name's Stephen Anelsheim.

I'm a resident of Al Granada, and I wanted to speak for a minute to you about the exciting development of the Alcove program in your community.

I want to first acknowledge the wonderful presentation of our alcove youth advisors and the wonderful job they've been doing developing this program.

Um as I moved to Al Granada a number of years ago, I've been involved in trying to bring these integrated youth health service programs to the state of California.

Um I work at Stanford.

I direct our our Center for Youth Mental Health and Wellbeing.

I'm a child psychiatrist by training, and really came to see the value of creating these programs in partnership with communities across the state.

I can tell you as we were looking at and talking to many people here in the community about the need for additional support for the youth in Hafoon Bay.

It was very exciting to meet with some of your staff, folks from the school district, and really a shout out to the people at Coast Pride who were really willing to take on the development of this critical program for young people, not only for the third space of being able to have activities, but a place really with uh a one-stop shop and no wrong door for early mental health care, physical health, early substance abuse, support, peer support as well for the young people of the coast side here, given the critical need we have for these supports and services for our youth and families, the application that the coastside um folks and coast pride people led, was an amazing application to the state for funding.

It brought together 20 letters of support from your community and multiple partners to create these supports and services for the young people here.

So I just wanted to take a moment to say how wonderful it is, frankly, to be a member of this community to see the wonderful response for the young people here in terms of recognizing the need for these supports and services, the amazing work of the youth here and the many community agencies that have really stepped up to be supportive.

It's gonna be very exciting to see this site open in the spring, and we're really excited to continue to be of support in making this resource available to the community.

So congratulations to you and congratulations to everybody here for the wonderful work to this point.

So thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you, Stephen, for helping to uh bring these services to the coastside.

Appreciate it.

Our next speaker now is Sarah.

Is it Kramer or Kramer?

It's Kramer.

It is Kramer.

That's what I thought.

Great.

Thank you.

And after Sarah Kramer, we have one person online, Dana Johnson.

Alright, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor and City Council and City staff and members of the community.

I'm also here to speak in support of Alcove Half Moon Bay.

I am a licensed professional clinical counselor as well as a board certified art therapist, and I've worked for almost 30 years in different kinds of systems, and I'm really excited to hear how Alcove is going to bring together different systems to help young people find a space where they feel comfortable and they feel comfortable seeking help when they need it.

And that Alcove will be there to provide that help when they need it.

Waiting lists to see therapists to see psychiatrists.

You may know they're very long if you can even find a provider.

This will be a place to bring together people who are already working in the community to provide those services for young people who have been asking for this help that they need and for places where they can develop their own skills.

They are very integral to the development of the center.

They work with staff in terms of interviewing other all coast center staff.

They're able to say this is someone who really we could connect with who would be there to support other young people.

They're there to develop wellness activities and find ways for other young people to be part of the center.

So they are developing an amazing array of services, and they will be here to support other young people coming in to get that help.

So we really appreciate all of your support and ongoing support as they develop and open their center.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Appreciate it.

We now have two speakers who are online.

The first, um, you'll have to tell me if it's pronounced Dana or Dana, Johnson, and then Amy from San Mateo County.

So we'll start out.

Is it Dana or Donna?

Dana.

Hello, hi.

Yes, Mary.

It's Dana.

Dana Johnson.

Great.

Thank you for letting me know.

Appreciate it.

Okay, go ahead, start.

No problem.

Thank you.

My name is Dana Johnson, and I identify with they and he pronouns.

I hold space as a board member for Coast Pride, LGBTQ Center, which is also the hub and the connector over ALCO.

I'm also an LGBTQIA plus commissioner for the county, and identified as the coast representative for the LGBTQIA Plus Commission.

I am also here to speak in uh acceptance and approval of moving forward with ALCO.

I think you've heard all of various different presentations as well as the various remarks about the amazingness of it.

I am coming to it from looking at it with working with youth for over about 20 years.

Some that are also detained youth, and some that also have various different severe suffering that they may have had with mental health spaces.

This space that is being created is being created as an affirming and safe space.

And the most best thing about it is that it's a buildup to where kids can feel safe with other kids.

So it's a space where peer-to-peer communication and interaction will be going on, as well as peer-to-peer wellness.

And I think with the stigma around mental health, it's nothing like having a space where other peers will feel comfortable speaking to their peers about things that they may be challenged with and seeing how they can get the support and resources.

So I highly, highly, highly hopefully recommend that you all consider moving forward with having ALCO.

There is one in Samateo as well.

So the hard part is if this doesn't move forward, then are we saying to our folks that they have to go all the way over the hill?

Because they also have transportation challenges.

So again, this program is amazing, and I think that the YAG group that came and presented did an amazing job.

Thank you for your time and thank you for the work that you're doing for the community.

Thank you, Dana.

Thank you for your comments this evening.

Appreciate it.

Our next speaker is Amy.

Hello, council members and mayor.

Thank you so much for uh having me.

Just wanted to say that I'm I'm here speaking as an individual, not as my role as an employee of San Mateo County.

Um, I am also on the board of Coast Pride, um, and I wanted to uh give my accolades to the YAG for presenting a very professional um presentation here today, um, and for the amount of work that they've put into establishing Alcove here on the coast.

Um, the coast is far away from the rest of the county, and we need the support for our youth.

Many of our youth and our families do not have cars, do not have time to get over the hill, and don't have access to this kind of support.

And the fact that this uh this place is built by youth for youth makes it a really important and special place um to serve our community here on the coast.

So I wanted to congratulate the YAG and um, you know, show my support for what an amazing place this will be.

Thank you, Amy.

Appreciate your comments this evening.

I believe that is the last of our speakers, okay.

Public forum is now officially closed.

So we will move on to our consent calendar.

Um, someone like to make someone like to make does anyone have anything to pull?

Okay.

Someone like to make a motion to approve the consent calendar.

I move that we waive the reading of resolutions and ordinances, that we approve the minutes of November 14, 2025 special meeting.

That we approve the minutes of the November 18, 2025 special meeting.

That we approve the minutes of the November 18, 2025 regular meeting, that we approve the minutes of the November 18, 2025 joint city council slash planning commission special meeting, that we approve the minutes of the November 22nd, 2025 special meeting.

That we adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute a professional services agreement with Kittleson and Associates Incorporated in an amount not to exceed 149,880 for the preparation of a safe streets for all road safety action plan, and that we adopt a resolution receiving the City of Half Moon Bay annual comprehensive financial report for the fiscal year ended June 2020.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All those opposed.

Nobody opposed.

Motion carried.

Thank you.

Moving on to our next agendized item ordinances and public hearings.

We'll have an introduction of an ordinance adopting, sorry, adding chapter 7.65, the commercial commercial vitality to the Half Moon Bay Municipal Code.

And I believe we will begin with a staff report.

Mr.

Mayor, we'll looks like we're having a little bit of a technical issue.

Once we get it resolved, we'll move forward.

Yeah, bear with us.

Got another minute here, pulling up our slides.

There was one titled public hearing and it had your name on it, Karen.

That's not it.

Oh okay.

Sorry.

Oh.

Good evening, Mr.

Mayor and Council and Community.

I'm Karen Decker, Economic and Community Vitality Manager.

And I'm here to welcome the public, re-welcome the public to an introduction and an extended public hearing for a new commercial vitality ordinance that if it passes, it will be added to our municipal code.

This ordinance, we have uh conducted a study session and a first reading, and so the arc of this presentation includes about six or eight slides that you have already heard, once or twice, as recently as a month ago.

So I'm actually not gonna go through those slides.

I'm assuming that brevity would be appreciated.

If anybody wants me to go back and elaborate, I'm happy to do that.

I just included them to show the trail of breadcrumbs to illustrate where we've been in order to understand where we are, because it's been an iterative process.

So we've gone over what this ordinance does.

It establishes standards for commercial storefronts.

We talked about how this is right-sized for Half Moon Bay and has involved a lot of stakeholder input.

We did conduct a study session on October 7th, and those bullets outline some of the feedback from that session.

As a results of the study session, some revisions were made to the ordinance, and they were all under the theme of cleanliness and maintenance.

We also drilled down on clarifying some standards that were vague.

We added a section to address vacant storefronts and how they could be more appealing while they're vacant.

And then the first reading was conducted about a month ago on November 4th, and out of that session, uh the feedback received was pertained to just allowing more time for stakeholder input, which was the purpose of extending the public hearing to this evening.

Um there were disaster there was a desire to include windows, specifically the cleanliness of windows in exterior maintenance standards.

There was also feedback that the draft as it stood was a bit more extensive than originally envisioned, and then that got us to the point where we are this evening.

So following that first reading, um, there was also a November convening of the Downtown association, which a couple council members had an opportunity to attend along with some city staff, and uh we received really great specific input during that meeting.

I would say the majority of the agenda was discussing the ordinance, the pros, the cons, the concerns.

I'd really like to give a shout out to my team, Julisa and Irma, who since the November convening engaged multiple property owners, all the major shopping centers, all the major major players downtown and beyond.

And then that gave me the opportunity to work with our downtown groups and subsequent committee, and also just individual businesses who reached out to me and had an interest in this topic.

Some of them spent over an hour with me individually, and to me, this was really kind of the heart of this whole process.

I was really so pleased at the level of civic engagement, and it it just I think really elevated the draft and resulted in good policy.

So out of those conversations, this is where I kind of want to spend the bulk of this presentation.

It's on the most recent revisions.

We also removed the requirement that we had originally added after the study session in regards to locked in and closed dumpsters, because in further research and talk with property owners and merchants, there were some unintended consequences to doing that.

In some cases, it would require a loss of ADA parking spaces in order to accommodate for the additional space.

An enclosure would require a coastal development permit.

And to the comment made during the first reading, all of that kind of spoke to the fact that this is getting a little bit bigger than originally envisioned.

So while taking out that specific requirement, it was still important to address situations that we all have in our minds when we conjure up overflowing dumpsters and clothing bins and without getting into specific sites.

So we added new language that drilled down more.

You see that there on the third bullet, the accumulation of rubbish and junk and garbage, etc.

And then we also referenced an existing code that was strong, but it was not enough without this additional language.

So that was clearer.

And while it's not a revision, I still wanted to include that there's a new page on the city website that includes frequently asked questions and just lay person-friendly language that talks about this ordinance and what its goals are and how to support property owners, how they can collaborate with the city.

That's still, of course, under development as these iterations go through this process.

So that's a summary of the most recent rep recommendations.

And so staff is recommending that a public hearing is conducted, and if concluded, that council waive the first reading and introduce this ordinance into our Muni code to establish maintenance standards for commercial storefronts.

And if that does happen this evening, then next steps would look like a second reading, probably at the next council meeting in December that would likely be on consent unless there's anything left to discuss.

If that does pass and is adopted, then it would take effect 30 days from that date.

And then just that ongoing education collaboration would be ongoing, not only on our website, online's not for everybody.

And so it's going to have to take different forms and just be on our radar for a bit because it would be a new ordinance, and not everyone will read e news or watch this meeting.

And so it's just going to be an ongoing process.

And that concludes my presentation.

I would be happy to answer any clarifying questions and invite the mayor to open the public hearing.

Thanks, Karen.

Clarifying questions from council.

No clarifying questions, and we'll move on to public comment.

We have two public comment commenters.

That's not a word.

Yeah.

We'll open up the public hearing.

We have two comments.

The first person speaking will be Amber Stowe, and the second person will be Betsy Delfeiro.

Hello, thank you very much, Council and City staff for listening very carefully to the business community and to people who are stakeholders in downtown and in our commercial districts.

And that was fixed in this most recent draft.

I think that the concerns that we had brought forward were listened to, and I think that everything that we had as a concern was addressed in the most recent draft of the vitality ordinance.

I'm really happy to hear that there is layperson language in the FAQ.

So that can continue to be an evolving document that the city can publish, and I would actually urge the council to move forward with the commercial vitality ordinance tonight, and I thank you for your time.

Thank you, Amber.

Our next speaker is Betsy Del Fiatro.

Good evening, Mayor Brownstone, members of the council, staff, local community.

This is a night for very exciting things.

I am so inspired by Alcove and the incredible work.

I had no idea that it really even existed.

But like us, they are trying to do things to help, to support, and to improve our community.

This ordinance we're speaking of tonight was pretty much born at the PRIDE Committee meetings that we have had to create the downtown vitality project, of which there's many items, and we presented that to you.

So the Blight Ordinance was one of our goals, and we were so happy to be heard.

Soliciting the views of all of us, and many of you have come into uh the downtown.

I've spoken personally with a lot of you guys.

Thank you.

It's happening.

It's one of the points on our vitality project that is now really coming into fruition, and this is exciting.

We are in support of this, and I like Amber and the rest of us would urge you to pass this, not because we're trying to be bullies against people that can't get their spaces rented or don't want to necessarily um pick up every bit of trash.

We're hoping that those types of people will improve their behaviors.

We're doing this to help our community become more vital.

We're hoping that by this ordinance passing, we will see a community that continues to work together to support one another, to support the landlords, and the uh the people that need to do their part.

So thank you, thank you.

I am excited to see this passed tonight.

Thank you.

Thank you, Betsy.

I believe that concludes all our speakers.

Nobody online, correct?

Okay.

Public forum is now closed.

Sorry, one councilmember Penrose.

Yeah, for discussion, yeah.

Thank you, Amber and Betsy.

Um, I am so excited that the city staff and that the city council are now forming these bonds with our downtown business owners, landlords, lessees.

I think that um for us to succeed as a city, we need all of us.

It takes the village.

It takes everybody.

I'm very excited about this ordinance.

I think you've done an amazing job.

City staff has done a great job.

I have one question about the ordinance, and that is the idea that if a if a storefront is empty, and we put in, for instance, um kids' drawings, Cunya school drawings in the window to be shown.

That would be wonderful.

But I am fearful that what will happen is if we don't have a time limit on how long things are in the window, that they're going to get faded by sunlight and begin to look kind of ratty.

So my suggestion is a 90-day period where they have to be changed, changed up after 90 days.

I don't know how practical that is, but it's it's something that came came to my attention when especially when I look at um some of this some of the witness that we do have where we've got old artwork up there that's looking pretty awful.

So I thought that might be a good addition.

And I'd like to hear from you and other people how long you think that period should be.

Um thank you for raising that.

It's a great point.

Um my hesitation with a time frame would be that um it would be another thing for the property owner and the compliance officer to track, but I s I do completely understand that we don't want facades that are faded, that are appealing, that are unattractive, that are dingy.

Um, and the part of the ordinance that talks about storefronts um having displays in the event that they're vacant.

There's a line here that says for storefronts that are empty for more than 90 days, installing a display on or in any street facing windows that makes the storefront appear attractive and active, which may include, and then there's some examples.

I had checked with our compliance officer to see if the term active and attractive.

I I understand how that's a bit subjective, but again, we don't want to be overly prescriptive, would be enough to enforce if a temporary display was starting to look dingy and community development thought that it was.

So I think we have enough language as it's written to address that concern because that was one of our concerns as well.

That's great, thanks.

That that answers my my concern.

And if I may, um, with the website updates that we're doing, it seems like that's a perfect opportunity in layman's terms to say, you know, we'll be looking, and if whatever you put up becomes uh, you know, faded, you know, we can we can lay that out a little bit more clearly there without it overburdening the actual ordinance.

Great.

Because the idea is not to punish anyone or to make it difficult for anybody, but to you know to help keep the whole of downtown looking sparkling and nice.

Thank you.

Any other comments?

We've got a couple now.

I just want to um thank um Karen, I want to thank you for taking that extra step, that extra time, because I know I was pushing a little hard last time, but I really wanted the merchant's input, so I want to apologize to you.

I didn't mean it to be mean, I was just wanted to make sure that we do it right, and you did a great job.

I want to say that.

Um Betsy, I want to thank you because I was sitting there having breakfast that morning at Johnny's and my friend that I knew from high school.

You came to me and you said, Pat, I'm really upset about this and these pots over here, and then it grew into this meeting.

We talked about the printer's building was bothering you, the other building, which we won't mention.

Uh you actually inspired this.

You brought it forward, and then I just realized it was that seed started this movement right now, and this movement's a big plus.

Chrislin, Amber, big big shout out to you, you ladies, Cameron, for getting involved, city council for getting involved because you guys know I can't do the evening's meetings, which I did in the morning at its tally, a couple of those meetings.

Matthew was starting to show up.

Everybody started to show up and input.

This is how it's done.

The input all became from everybody that in this town, and that's how we crafted this.

So I'm really stoked that we all had inputs on this with even the details of the pictures, and I agree.

Like if it starts looking bad, then we exchange them.

And the idea came from Betsy when she said there was a I can't remember what the festivity was, but it was something where we were doing, I think it was jazz or something.

It was jazz and wine or something like that.

And you were like really upset about the printer's building, and you said, I'm gonna put artwork, and I'm not even gonna ask, I'm just gonna do it.

And she did it, and I gotta say, I walked by, and it looked better than what it did, and that's what inspired how we grew into this ordinance right now.

So the seeds coming in is how we can plant this tree, and I think we did a great job all together.

Thank you.

Thank you, Patrick.

Paul.

I just wanted to comment my this uh I guess in two weeks will be my first year on uh city council and just watching this process.

I'm all about process, and it was uh uh a learning experience for me, but just to watch the community interact together, whether it was council staff, uh, residents or even the business community to work together to have something, and just to remind everybody, this is a I call it a living document that we'll still have something to work on.

If it's not perfect, you know, we'll still uh work at it.

So I think that's important to acknowledge that we can work together and get something done.

Okay, Paul.

What else?

I just want to say thank you to staff and also the downtown business people for the for the extra effort to to look carefully at the language of the of the first draft, and I think it's you know much improved, and um thank you for that.

I'm happy to support this tonight.

I think it's a good move.

And I think you know, pride is catching, you know, it affects um everybody in ways that are conscious or subconscious, but it sets the tone, and I think we need that tone to support what is a visitor-serving community.

You know, 43 or 47 percent of our budget comes from transient occupancy tax, which is visitors, so we're we're definitely a visitor serving community, and we want to act like it, and uh I really appreciate the effort of the businesses, you know, to bring that forward and to press that case.

So thank you.

Well, thanks everybody.

I've really enjoyed attending some of the downtown business association meetings because you know when you get a group of people making suggestions, that's when you come up with better ideas than just one or two.

And every meeting I've uh uh attended, have learned a lot, and you know, there's interesting codes out there, and figuring out you know, how do you apply them fairly without um being prescriptive, and we're dealing with business owners, we're dealing with building landlords.

I mean it's a lot of moving parts, so it was great.

It's always just great hearing from everybody, and that's when you also get some really great innovative ideas and some great volunteer ideas as well.

So thanks everybody.

Thanks, Karen.

And I don't believe we uh there's no motion here.

We've had our public hearing.

Uh you you will need to um uh ask for a motion uh to introduce the ordinance.

I think Karen, do you want to um pull up that slide?

Okay, I didn't see that.

I move that we introduce an ordinance adding chapter 7.65 commercial vitality to the Halfman Bay Municipal Code, establishing maintenance standards for commercial storefronts.

Second.

Let's have a roll call.

Councilmember Johnson.

Yes, Councilmember Nagengast.

Yes, Councilmember Penrose, yes, Vice Mayor Raddock.

Yes, Mayor Brownstone.

Yes, motion carries.

Great.

Thanks, everybody.

Uh next item is the adoption of a residential dwelling unit phasing agreement.

Pursuant pursuant to half moon bay municipal codes section 17.06.055, also known as Measure D.

And we'll start off again with the staff report.

Thank you, Mayor Brownstone and members of the City Council.

I'm Scott Phillips, senior planner in community development, and I'll be presenting the requested phasing agreement this evening.

Little overview of the presentation.

I'll go into some background on Measure D, a little bit about the conceptual project and requested phasing agreement, and then some recommendations.

Now Measure D is our growth management program that manages the rate and quality of development in the city specific to residential development.

And it was codified back in 2009 and includes procedures for implementation.

Now Measure D uh limits the development of the city to 1% of the population, plus an additional percent to the downtown.

Now issuance of Measure D allocations are required prior to submitting for permits, and that's the primary reason why our applicant has submitted for the phasing agreement is that they're waiting on Measure D allocations.

Now there is one exemption that's pertinent.

Now the the conceptual project itself is uh located on the north side of Metzger, uh between Highway One and Main Street.

And uh the applicant would envisions 55 new residential units, uh, multifamily development.

The site is currently vacant and is outside of the Measure D downtown.

So uh the site is considered an opportunity site uh within our housing element that was recently adopted by the city council, uh with a realistic yield of forty-one units.

So uh the 55 units would exceed the realistic yield shown in our housing element.

Now no development application is technically been submitted because the applicant midpen housing is still you know in the process of acquiring the necessary Measure D allocations now.

Just to uh show you, it was a request to include the map, the Measure D map.

Uh the site is uh I've shown in sort of the red rectangle there uh that it's outside of downtown, but yet uh on the other side of Metzger Street is actually downtown.

Now the proposal, uh the request is for 55 units, and uh the initial submittal was back in January of uh 2024.

Since that time, 10 Measure D allocations have been issued uh to the applicant.

Uh in total, they're requesting an additional forty-four units, uh, or excuse me, uh, yeah, forty-four units through the phasing agreement, 17 units in 2026, and 17 in 2020.

The remaining eight units would be covered through a density bonus, so which does not require Measure D allocations.

Now the phasing agreement process is also in our code.

Now the phasing agreement, for one thing, uh allows Measure D applicants to be granted more than 50% of the allocations available either downtown or outside of downtown over a set period of more than one year, and the applicant is requesting the phasing agreement over two years.

Now city attorney review of the phasing agreement is also required.

Multiple rounds of the phasing agreement of review by the city attorney did take place, and the result of that is included in attachment five.

And then we also conducted our normal noticing of uh property owners and and residents within 300 feet of the site.

We posted the site and we also published a legal notice in the Daily Journal to advertise tonight's item.

Now uh the last you know the the other step in the phasing phasing agreement review is that city council uh would need to approve the phasing agreement and make the applicable finding associated with the phasing agreement, and this slide includes the language for the finding by awarding more than 50% of available allocations to an individual developer by the phasing agreement.

No other developer will be unreasonably precluded from receiving all or part of any allocations that the developer may be reasonably entitled to receive during the term of the development phasing agreement.

Now with the staff report uh there uh attachment four included some some data on uh the measure D allocations that were uh previously available and awarded, as well as uh the requests uh over the past five years, and it also included um anticipated demand uh for 2026 and 2027.

Uh this slide includes some of the conclusions and uh you know from attachment four uh the Measure D allocations uh in recent years average around 44 in the downtown and 22 outside of downtown and then downtown uh the requests are usually around 26, where it's it's a little bit higher outside of downtown uh with it, you know, usually around 37.

Now in some years uh you know the uh the folks that don't receive Measure D allocations do end up getting the allocations through a transfer in September.

Uh so that is one that we've seen in uh a few years.

Now, in conclusion, we we do recommend uh conducting a public hearing.

Uh one of our recommendations is to uh approve the uh phasing agreement uh as submitted.

The city council could also modify the you know the requested numbers and uh we do recommend uh giving the app the applicant an opportunity to speak.

Uh you know, for example, you know, as mentioned and gone over and uh when the city council reviewed the housing element, uh there is a contemplated uh code update that would only require a half allocation for ADUs.

So that that could reduce the demand for measure D's and thus allowing for additional allocations in 2027.

Uh that would be also something for the city council to consider.

Uh but yeah, you know, a couple of different options.

That concludes my presentation.

I'm happy to answer any questions.

Clarifying questions, we'll start at the end come up.

Scott, can you I've heard this before, and I'm still learning about measure D.

This is one that's a little complicated for me, but transfer in December.

There you I've heard this before.

Can you explain that to me?

Yeah, so the transfer in September, it is at the discretion of the city council, and the idea is that any of the base allocations, so the the half a percent downtown, uh, if there are any left over in September, at the discretion of the city council, the leftovers could be transferred to outside of downtown.

Now that does not include the the bonus half percent downtown.

Those cannot be transferred, just the base allocations from inside to outside is what you're saying, right?

Correct.

Well, thank you.

Uh thank you, Scott.

I just want to make it clear first.

This is the first time the city of Hapmoon Bay has done a phasing agreement for Measure D allocations.

Just to clear this this is the for measure D correct.

There was a uh phasing agreement authorized by the City Council for Measure A, but this is the first time that this is taking place for Measure D.

Right.

And so uh some of the questions maybe it'll come out tonight, just I'm assuming this will set precedent.

So I'm trying to be careful, you know, how we move forward, but at the same time it's uh you know, trying to do as well as we can do, and that's why I'm trying to make it clear.

I heard a few times about uh 55 units versus 52 units tonight.

It is 52 units, correct?

So the applicant is requesting a total of 55 units.

55.

Correct.

So why did I think it's 52?

Okay.

So then then the additional stat is because of the house.

I'm not sure.

Oh, because I thought it was 52.

That's why I thought it was 44, and then you add eight, and and then I'm going to ask a follow-up.

What exactly the eight you mentioned is density bonus.

Can you just explain it to so we can understand what that means, why the density did not need a measure D.

But just let me clear whether it's 52 or 55.

It does say 52 places.

Yes, I I see the uh the discrepancy.

You are correct.

Uh 52 units.

So, yeah, so so 10 have been issued, and then 17 allocations are requested in 2026, 17 in 2027, and then an additional eight allocations through a uh density bonus.

Can you explain that why that doesn't need because uh measure D allocations are not required for density bonus because they're exempt as codified?

But what does that mean exempt as codified?

Exempt from measure D requirements.

Because the code can you just explain why the what the code says on that?

Oh, the language of measure D specifically exempts density bonus units.

That's the way the measure D was written.

Yes, okay, thank you.

So those in on the specific questions?

Any other questions?

That's a great.

So we still need to approve the allocations for 2026.

Overall allocations.

Which I understand are coming at the next meeting.

So why what is the the thinking behind approving the density bonuses this meeting and all the allocations at the next meeting?

Wouldn't it make more sense to approve all the allocations and then approve um the phasing agreement allocations?

Or at least have them at the same meeting.

Um sorry, I don't have a light on my mic, I wanted to make sure it was working.

Um, that would make sense, but we also knew that this would be a difficult decision, so we wanted to make sure that council had enough time to consider it before before they have to do the allocations because the code specifies that the that if there's a phasing agreement, that if when you do the allocations, you have to consider any phasing agreements that are in place.

So the phasing agreement has to come before the allocations.

So it's here tonight because we didn't want to get into a position where council would have a difficult time making a decision, and they would have to do the allocations in the same meeting.

Do you know already what the allocations are that will be brought forward on the 16th?

Well, we can estimate we don't know exactly.

Um they average around 22 in the outside of downtown area and around 44 in the downtown area, but um but we don't we don't know for sure, and one of the reasons we don't know is because um we haven't had access to census data, the the federal government census site is not operating the way it usually does.

So how will you prepare for the meeting on the 16th?

Uh we are figuring that out.

Um our best minds working on it.

Um, we uh we have we have figured out a way to um come up to do the math that the US Census does with the data that they have.

So we'll now open it up to uh our public forum.

We have six speakers in the room, and we have a few people online as well.

Okay, uh it's a public hearing.

Public hearing, when I say public forum, yeah.

Public hearings now open.

Um our first speaker will be Sophia Whiting, and she will be followed by Rena Diaz, good evening, everyone.

Thank you.

Um my name's Sophia Whiting.

Um I'm here on behalf of myself and my husband Arlando Santos.

Um we're both lifetime residents of uh the coast side, and um our parents are all small business owners on the coast side.

Um we are hopeful that we can stay in Half Moon Bay and live here with our young son.

But over the years it's been really difficult to figure out how to do that in light of Measure D.

We do have a property in our family that's outside of downtown that our family has always been hopeful.

We could build a family residence for ourselves and our elder um parents as well to try to live and remain on the coast side with our families.

But the way that the Measure D point system works makes it extremely difficult to hope to get a Measure D allotment, just because certain things like just where the location of your property is, can determine a number of points.

So even if you plan everything perfectly, you just might never get an allotment.

So we are finally came up with a plan to hopefully be able to qualify for a permit this upcoming year, but that will not be possible if 17 of the anticipated 21 or 22 outside of downtown permits are allotted to one project.

So we are in support of both housing density, low-income housing, as well as limiting growth.

My parents voted for Measure D, we're in support of Libany growth.

Those are all I think shared goals that we have.

But we also want middle-income families who want to reside on the coast side to be able to do that.

So my request is to uh consider the way this will affect all of the other applicants who already have such a hard time getting these limited spots.

And a couple of ways that can be considered is number one, committing to releasing downtown allocations to outside of downtown later in the year, as has been something that has been happening, whether those would potentially be able to go to this project or to other projects.

Another option is to consider the map.

I know that's something that's been considered to go on the ballot for the upcoming year.

And as you can see, really, this should be downtown.

Um it's it's right across from the downtown map, but the downtown map is kind of awkwardly um split.

Um and so this really is a downtown area, and there are far more uh permits available for downtown as a starting point, and far fewer applicants.

So this should in some way be able to be adjusted so that families who just want to you know build residences for themselves are not completely taken out of the picture.

Um another option, of course, this is a little bit more of the long term, but I have to put, oh, that's the time call.

ADUs, put it on the ballot or make them half.

It's impossible to build a single family home without an ADU.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Sophia, for coming this evening and sharing our experience.

Appreciate it.

Our next speaker here is Rena.

So hang on, she'll be followed by Harvey Raarback.

So great.

Um, I got my the notice um about this uh project, and I know it has uh been working, people are working on trying to build in that area.

And I I really feel that um or I know that 52 units there is just too many.

We already have a huge problem with parking.

Every time the senior center has anything going on, uh we get people parked all over, including on that uh field.

And also every evening, uh all the people that live on Arnold Way, Kelman Park.

And you can see that there's no parking.

Parking is a huge issue.

So two allocations per unit, I don't think that will be enough.

Um I am not an architect, but also the structure that I see.

I see, it doesn't provide me much information.

Uh, and that is me because you know, I'm not an architect or anything like that.

And the other thing is that wait a minute, let me see my notes.

It doesn't specify whether the units will be for rent or to own and who would move in there.

Um I'm sorry, Rena.

Are you addressing 555 Kelly now?

No, about street.

Oh, okay.

Yes.

The one that we're talking about.

Okay.

Thanks.

Yes.

Uh, and um, uh, any time anybody builds, I really would like um people to consider uh servicing people like teachers, firefighters, and also their community members that are that are here that have been here for the longest time or since birth and they haven't been able to buy a house.

Um let's see, and um, so I never saw anything that says that they will have also a place structure for children.

So please conceive their children and a place for people to meet in the afternoon.

I'd like to just point out that the project is not on the agenda.

It's only the allocation of measure D.

So we're just talking about allocating measure D allocations, but we're not discussing the project tonight.

That's that hasn't even, that doesn't even have an application yet.

That would have to go to the planning commission first.

Okay.

Well, thank you.

Anyway, please consider those points because they are very important to the community there.

Thank you.

Thank you, Rana.

Our next speaker is Harvey Rarback.

And he will be followed by Timothy Pond.

Good evening, Council.

Um Bay needs affordable housing.

That is abundantly clear to everyone who's ever gone to any of these meetings and seen the horrible situation with people who can't afford uh market rate housing.

Uh I understand that what's what's on the agenda tonight is not approval or disapproval of the project, but I believe that if the council does endorse this phasing agreement, it is a statement that we are in favor of this kind of affordable housing.

Um there's been lots of uh discussion about 555 Kelly.

Uh the arguments against it are it's too high, um, it's too dense, uh, there's no parking.

None of those uh uh arguments uh pertain to this particular um project.

Uh Midpen, who's the developer has done amazing job on Main Street.

If you go down the south end of Main Street, that's affordable housing.

That is what we need more of in this community, and by endorsing this phasing agreement, it will be telling Midpen and the community that the council and the city is in favor of more affordable housing.

So please support the phasing agreement.

Thank you.

Thank you, Harry.

Our next speaker is Timothy Pond, who will be followed by Mike Mack.

Hello, thank you for uh allowing the opportunity to speak.

Um I really think that the downtown map should be changed.

Now, you guys had the opportunity to put something on the ballot which would have changed this, but didn't go forward with that.

I don't know why.

If you look at that map that has farm fields owned by stakeholders, I think the pastorinos, I don't know who owns the land out by the sewer district.

That is a ridiculously gerrymandered map in favor of stakeholders that are no longer that have nothing to do with developing a viable downtown.

And to leave that in place is unfair.

Unfair to people, unfair to the 20 or 30 people that are going to apply for housing this year.

Try to build some an ADU or a single family home.

Having said that, I don't see how you can make the finding.

Your language in the finding would be that developers are unaffected.

Most of the developers that I see for ADUs are single people.

That's the bottom line.

That's a big effect.

Also, you know, so I'm just gonna go on about the measure D for a second.

JDUs can share a bathroom with a house.

And how you can require a measure D allocation for a JDO is beyond me because you have to share a bathroom.

They don't they don't exist as a separate unit on title.

So anyway, I just I don't I think 10 as a number would be more fair that a phasing agreement for 10.

I had an ex plan a person who's a member of the planning um commission call me up and was extremely um animated about this.

Said, oh, you they can change that number, they can change that number.

And she was one of the people that voted against putting this on the ballot to make that downtown.

If you look at that map, why is that hunk carved out there?

It makes no sense at all.

And and yet city council for a long time and planning commission has gone along with this, and it's just plain unfair.

One argument was well, it was put on the ballot, it was put on the ballot by by signatures, and therefore it should be put on the ballot again by signatures.

Well, your responsibility is to govern and to make government fair, and if we can't have that, then I don't know what your job is up here.

So, anyway, thank you very much for listening to me.

Thank you, Timothy, and I think uh just a clarification.

The what is being passed now is a downtown map was the former redevelopment district.

Thank you for the clarification.

Good evening.

Um thank you, Mayor and staff.

My name is Mike Mack, I'm a local builder in Half Moon Bay.

I've been building here since 2000, maybe the year before as well.

Went through the whole measure tobacco and trying to work our way through this Measure D stuff.

Um I live on 604 Metzger, which is directly across the street on the south side of Metzger.

Um, and initially, you know, first thing first is the possession arrow these days seems to be pointing towards the low-income housing, the moderate income housing.

And there's my biggest concern with it, you know, being a builder is first off, I live across the street.

We have we're gonna definitely see a decline in the the um worth of our homes.

Nobody wants a low-income housing development across the street from them.

No one that I know.

Um, I I know we need housing, no question.

Um, I just we live in a neighborhood, and all of a sudden, you know, every every street around us is an it's the neighborhood, and to plop in, you know, 55 units or 52, whatever it is, it's just it's gonna hurt a lot of people's, you know.

The I mean we can call the kettle black.

People don't want that across the street from them.

And um, I just think um, I think it's ultra important for you guys to think about the definition of affordable housing.

Um, that can bring in a lot of riffraff.

Um parking is absolutely gonna be an issue.

There's no question that it's already backed up Main Street, the senior center housing is then, you know, is got Metzger plugged up, it's got Main Street plugged up, um, and that seems to be the the way it works with with the the um the affordable housing is multiple families move in.

They don't get they don't get monitored.

So I encourage you to drive by whoever hasn't.

Not only Metzger Street, but the other affordable housing projects and take a good look at how many cars are parked up and down the street.

It's you know, we're gonna have pumpkin fest year-round kind of traffic.

Anyways, I appreciate you letting me let me speak and good luck.

It's gonna be a tough one.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is Kimber Morland.

Good evening, and thank you for your time.

I'm Kimber Moreland.

I'm a soil biogeochemist.

I work at Stanford University as a researcher there.

And I'd like to speak more on maybe this is a little unconventional, but on behalf of the land here, this land throughout the season has many inhabitants, and does our community many services, albeit more invisible services.

It has home to a soil that filters water, protects our home from floods and saltwater intrusion, and sequesters a lot of carbon for a really long period of time.

On top of the soil is a wide variety of plants, including a bamboo groove and a beautiful big old tree.

The soil and vegetation support red winged blackbirds, blue herons, owls, and many other species our community loves and cares about.

If this is approved, all of this will be forever changed.

The soil will be dug out and filled with outside rock, removing the ability of the soil to sequester carbon and protect us from floods, all while releasing significant amounts of carbon that's been there for hundreds to thousands of years.

The plants will be removed, and then the homes of all the organisms will be gone.

I know Half Moon Bay needs more housing, and that decision about land management is complex.

I ask that your decisions about this land take into consideration these services this land provides for us.

Later tonight, we'll be discussing the climate action plan.

This plan points to erosion, flooding, and extreme heat as critical risk for Half Moon Bay, and that we want to address.

Thank you, Kimber for uh bringing an important sustainability perspective into this conversation.

Thank you very much.

We'll now move to our remote participants.

Um the first speaker will be Heather Burg.

Heather Burgett uh Svanovic, followed by Evelyn De Sauza.

So Heather, you go first.

Thank you.

Great, thank you.

You almost got it right.

Heather get Slanvik.

My family has been in Half Moon Bay for as long as I can remember.

My grandparents were on Kelly, and my mom and father moved to the corner of Maine and Metzger 30 years ago.

Happen Bay is it's it's our heart.

Maine and Metzger, like everybody else before me, has already pointed out that we have all the extra cars on the street.

But what I'm more worried about with the senior father who is legally blind, and the senior center across the street.

Right now, Metzger tends to have we have like what, 12 houses on that street.

There's maybe 25 cars that go up and down the street at any given time during the day.

My my father can walk across the street safely.

You're talking about potentially allowing someone to build 55 units and have a hundred and six parking spaces.

That means you're talking about potentially having 400% increase in traffic on a street that goes straight into a senior center.

The senior center residents leave the senior center.

They don't all stay in the senior center, they walk and they do things.

And my stepfather walks across that street every single day.

I am worried about the safety and the number of cars on that road.

Not just for parking.

What everybody else has already said is true, but I beg of you to keep it a lower number.

I understand we need housing, but I beg of you to keep it a lower number to keep it safe for the senior center and my father.

That's all I.

Oh, last thing I really want to ask the 16th.

What you're talking about the next meeting?

Since I don't live there, I just happen to see the sign.

My stepfather, like I said, my father's legally blind.

I am the one that has power of attorney for him.

I would love to be part of that meeting to be there, see it, whatever.

So could you tell me is that January 16th or December 16th?

That's all.

We're not talking about the project at this meeting.

We're only talking about that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're not, and we're not going to talk about it at the next meeting either.

We would be setting the measure D allocation for the following year and um potentially ratifying the phasing agreement if we don't approve that tonight.

My understanding is both of those things have to be approved this year for the subsequent year.

We can't wait.

So you do have some control over the project by having the amount of allocations that you allow to give to them.

Am I wrong?

We wouldn't be making a decision about the total number of dwelling units.

That would come when the project is uh applied for and before the planning commission.

You need you need measure you need Measure D allocations in order to apply for permits.

First, you get the allocation, then you apply for permits, then the project goes to the planning commission, and if it's appealed to the city council, but we're not we're not adjudicating how many units for the project, how big it's gonna be or anything like that.

That would have to come in the future of the planning commission.

Okay, so they then.

Heather, I'm sorry, thank you.

It's fine.

It's you when the men when this project comes before the planning commission, there will be a lot of opportunity to um comment on it.

So thank you.

Uh our next speaker is Evelyn De Sauzers, and she will be followed by um Michael Ferrar.

Good evening, May Brownstone and Council members.

Um, my comments on the proposed Measure D phasing agreement come down to four simple questions about fairness, transparency, and following our own code.

First, was this agreement fully reviewed?

My understanding is that Measure D requires that the city attorney approve both the form and the content.

When I look at the agenda, it says it was only approved as to form.

Can we please get clarity that this agreement truly protects the city?

Secondly, why give away two years of future allocations before we know how many we even have as to the point that Debbie Ruddick raised?

Um, I know that you're setting the 2026 Measure D number next week.

I would have preferred that this topic of the phased agreement came up after that, as this agreement would pre-assign two years of allocations to one developer.

It feels premature and unfair, and a far more equitable approach would be to wait until that 2026 number is set.

Thirdly, um, has the public been asked about proposed Measure D changes.

We have been hearing ideas like half allocations for ADUs or rolling over unused allocations, which I think are major shifts, but they really hasn't been the sort of public discourse that we need.

Before amending the code, it would be ideal to have the community be involved in a transparent and inclusive process.

Fourthly, what has happened to the ADU and JDU policy changes that were discussed last year?

Reducing those requirements for ADUs and exempting JDUs entirely will impact housing fairness citywide.

It would be ideal if the current Measure D policy was circulated, and these proposed changes were flagged for public comment before tying any of this to a phasing agreement.

In closing, I'm simply asking for clarity, fairness, and transparency, and for the council to consider postponing the agreement until the public has had a full and informed opportunity to participate.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ellen.

Our next speaker is uh Michael Ferrar.

Uh good evening, Mayor Brownstone and council members.

Uh I uh I was just as puzzled as some of the council members appear to be about the exactly what we're up to here.

The I do favor the project, I favor the quantity of the project, but in the phasing agreement, I'm still a little bit buffaloed as to why it must the 17 must come from the downtown allocation.

Maybe there's something legal that means you can't transfer downtown units to it instead of uh taking it out of the uh rest of town allocation.

So I I don't personally I don't have a feel for it.

I'm not sure it was presented to you.

How many people would get bumped if you did this?

So uh and I could I could understand their disappointment if they were.

They may not have seen this coming.

So that's well, all that I can say is that I've seen the council transfer fairly generously year after year.

Why, and so my question is why couldn't that be how you execute the phasing?

And just to be clear, I support the idea of a phasing agreement.

It's necessary if we're ever going to get significant affordable housing projects.

So I uh I like the questions that uh came from uh council member Reddock and Gavin Gast and Johnson, and uh I hope you have a thorough discussion to try and smooth this out.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mike.

Our next speaker is Julie McHenry McHenry.

Good evening, everyone.

Um I have recent experience going through Measure D, and um was impacted by a similar situation as this one.

Um, there was a phasing agreement uh that had to do with this project at Hilltop, and that tied up allocations, it created a bottleneck in allocations that that has lasted for the last couple of years.

Um, and so uh I also feel like this phasing agreement is premature, and uh what it will do is create a bottleneck for anybody who is trying to do any kind of you know building project that needs a uh measure D for uh outside of downtown, and it could last for years.

I mean that the impact could really shift down for years and years to come because of the bottleneck.

And one thing I noticed in midpen's application that's with this phasing agreement, is that they are presuming that they're gonna qualify for SB 35 in order to fast track their permits, and because if they did qualify for SB 35, they would be able to bypass CEQA.

But my question is, has uh a proper site evaluation been done, because if that will need to be done to ensure they could qualify for 35, and my understanding is there's wetlands on that site near Highway 1.

And I think this goes to the point from the speaker who discussed the soils.

Um, I believe there's a wetlands there, and if there is wetlands, they will not qualify for SP 35, they will not be able to fast track around CEQA, and this project will be delayed for years, could be for quite some time.

And then again, if you've already passed this phasing agreement, you've tied up all those measure Ds.

You created a roadblock.

So my suggestion is to um work with midpen to do that site evaluation so that it can be determined if they really will uh be able to uh qualify for SB 35.

Um are there wetlands there?

Are there not?

Uh I believe there are, and that's going to have a big impact on this.

Thanks.

Thank you, Julie.

I believe that is our last speaker.

So we will now be closing our public hearing.

Come back to council for discussion.

Um I'll just start it out just to get us you know talking.

This is uh a difficult.

I I for me it's a difficult decision just hearing some of the feedback whether uh will train you know if we allow outside of the downtown to have this many measure Ds, will there be enough transfers later on to supplement that from the downtown?

You know, and that's I don't have a crystal ball.

I don't know that.

I also believe um, you know, mid-pen uh has to make some decisions, I assuming based on our decision whether they think they can get the measure D's or some kind of guarantee, because I assume their project is probably an escrow is gonna close, so they're wanting some assurances they can work with the city.

You know, and I also heard a comment tonight about the city attorney on form and content.

And I actually had the same discussion uh with city attorney too, that the ordinance does say form and content and versus the agreement and the um agenda report only said form, and we can talk later what that means and what the city attorney uh how that we can resolve that or what that means with council approves the actual content.

What the city attorney will actually their signature will mean on that agreement, but I I also curious, and I think midpen reps are here is there was a timeline in that agreement about building permits by January 1st, 2030.

And I look at this request for measure D's is front-loaded 1717.

But, but you know, if we tried to maybe space it out a little bit more, you know, I'm just throwing numbers.

If it was a three-year 10, 1014, if he still had the January 1st building permit, but to not put as much uh burden or removing as many measure Ds up front.

So I mean we would still have an agreement, but whether you could do it a three-year period instead of a two-year period.

I mean, just throwing it out for uh discussion on that.

And then there was talk about the downtown boundaries.

Is that part of the implementation plan that's gonna be complete or not?

So that's not part of that, whether the downtown boundaries or not, because that will, you know, we're dealing with it's in place now.

So that's why we have to look at what's downtown versus what's outside of downtown.

So I I'm looking at if there's ways uh to change the actual number of measure Ds in a year, you know.

If you know if the concern is to try and have building permits by 2030, okay.

They want to be in construction in 2029.

But the agreement said 2030, not for building permits, yeah.

Yeah, I don't think so.

Yeah.

That's what looks like.

Yeah, and maybe mid pin could explain explain that.

I don't know if they're here.

I think they are there.

Because typically uh measure D's you have a year to get your building permit, and then it can be extended, I believe one or two six-month intervals, but just seeing specifically um yeah, in section three, it talks about January 1st, 2030.

So maybe, yeah, shed some light on that.

Good evening, Mayor and Council members.

I'm Kevin Griffith from Mid Penn.

And um actually maybe the city attorney or staff would like to also address this, but um I believe the 2030 date in the agreement is sort of a use it or lose it kind of provision, so that you know applicants don't get an allocation and then not build with that application and hold up other uh folks who might want to utilize allocations.

So I think I think that's what really meant to be a a drop dead when when we would need to have pulled a permit, not an expectation or a plan for when we plan to build up to, and we do hope to be in construction before 2030.

So, but if we change um okay, let me just throw out there since you're here.

Let's say we did uh a 1010 14 or 11, 11, 12, let's say a three-year instead of a two-year 17-17.

Is that possible, probable or no way?

Yeah, I think and I can I can address that.

I think we we put the the um uh the phasing uh schedule in the agreement in order just to give us the best opportunity.

We our project is is affordable housing, 100% affordable housing, and it's going to require us to round up a lot of money from County of San Mateo and a big chunk from the state of California, and we would like to have those allocations in place just so we have every opportunity to go after those very competitive funds.

Uh, and two years will allow us the most opportunity to do that.

I think if council prefers a three-year plan, we can make that work.

Um, but it might mean missing a round of applications and you know delaying the delivery of that housing to folks who need it.

So two years is optimal for us.

I think three years is workable as long as all the of all of the 34 units that we need are incorporated in the agreement.

Well, any other um discussion points here, so let's see, where we're at now.

Um I think you put up two options originally.

One was um around continuing uh with our resolution approving the development unit phasing agreement unless we want to make some changes to that um resolution as currently worded.

Does anyone want to change the wording or are you okay?

If not, I'd want to hear a motion.

Personally, I'm I'm good with the recommendation.

Um it's an affordable housing project that we really need, it's going to address multiple income levels.

Um we've seen already what it takes to build an affordable housing project, the multiple funding sources, the need for some certainty.

Um personally, I'm okay with that.

If the rest of the council wants something that's fits into a three-year instead, um I'd be willing to consider that.

I will say this.

I've been very personally unhappy with the pace of bringing forward something that we've asked for now for a couple of years, which is a discussion of measure D carryovers, and exemptions for JDU and reductions of measure um D's for external ADUs.

When we first expressed interest in getting this information under a previous community development director, it's been two or three years, and still we've had no discussion about that.

And I consider that urgent because it's gonna take time to go through that discussion, and it's gonna be a sensitive discussion because it's going to involve the coastal commission and probably HCD.

So this discussion should have started a long time ago.

Um, and I want us to get a move on on that discussion.

It would help a lot of people.

Um one question I I had earlier was this.

Now I understand that some people may have not been able to get their measure Ds because they didn't score very highly and they expected to try again, you know, in the coming year.

And I'm just wondering, is there a chunk of people who have been turned down that we expect to come forward again to apply for measure D's.

Mr.

Mayor, I'd be happy to provide some clarity on that.

Thank you.

So with the transfers that took took place last September, all except one applicant received the Measure D allocations that they requested.

And I've been working with that applicant personally uh to submit again for in 2026, so I f from what staff can see the you know the the bent up demand has been satisfied, so except for one applicant, and then that's largely because we have routinely approved transfers in September.

Correct.

Well, um I know people will want to discuss further, but I'm I'm supportive of the recommendation.

Yeah, I I am as well.

I I unless there was a backlog of people who have been turned down because they didn't score high enough or they didn't make the lottery.

Um then I don't see any reason to to break it into three years.

I don't I don't understand the reason to extend it.

Um especially if it means that midpen can get the construction going that much faster because they can get the financing that much faster.

Um yeah, I support the resolution as currently written.

Um anyone else want to?

I support it, but I the bottlenecking thing is one thing, and then I was on Hilltop, if I remember right, I'm worried about that, but I'm hearing there is no bottlenecking.

Um, and there's only one person that got if you want to use the word bumped, you just got delayed.

So we're we don't see this pipeline of people waiting as is what I worry about, and that's not the case.

So I I'm okay with it.

Uh and all the other issues of the you know, the wetlands, and then um Julie called me personally and told me about you uh for fire department, all those will be addressed at a later point.

That's not something we would be talking now, and I understand those issues, but that's not what we're talking about.

So with that said, I'm in support of it, but I definitely don't um worried about backlash later on or something happening that we didn't foresee in what um council uh woman um uh Ruddick was bringing up.

I think we need to work on this and have a uh you know more details later on about the ADUs and the JDUs and all that stuff because we we're still battling and raffling around this, we should have clear direction on that, which would help us in the future.

So I think we need to jump on that because that's what we've been talking about this, and this is where we're bottlenecking right now.

I I still support uh a longer term, you know, just the three years.

We don't have a bottleneck now because we took care of it, but we and I don't have a crystal ball, but we could have a bottleneck in a year or two, just because we're removing so many uh from the pool.

So uh I still would rather see, I mean, I know uh you know it's the council would move forward, but I'd rather see it uh three years, and I to me, and I don't want to speak for mid pin, and I don't know how you go for financing, but looking to make sure the measure D's are secured.

I mean to me that's what what you're wanting to do, and I um I just feel better not taking as many up front in the first two years.

That's just my would someone like to make a motion.

Yeah, I move that we um adopt a resolution approving a development unit phasing agreement pursuant to half of the municipal code section 17.06.055 for 34 Measure D residential dwelling unit allocations over two years and make required findings.

Second, can I can I ask for clarification about the cons uh content and form?

Uh yes, this was the question about the wording in the Municode, which requires that the uh development phasing agreement uh shall be approved by the city council at a duly noticed public hearing, the form and content of which shall be subject to the review and approval of the city attorney.

And uh I will say that um I found this this wording interesting.

Pretty much every agreement that the that the city council authorizes the city enter into is um reviewed by the city attorney and approved as to form.

And that what that generally means is that the standard terms, the indemnification are protective of the city, but the city attorney isn't approving the substantive terms of whether or not it's a good policy idea to enter into that agreement.

Um so the um the way I uh sort of harmonize that and the language in the code is that um so long as the council um is uh is approving the content the substantive content.

Um in other words, the the two years, the the 17 per year, the the content, then I think it's appropriate for the city attorney to then um approve the the form and the content.

I just didn't want to get out of my lane essentially um because typically the city attorney disapproves as to form.

But I guess what I'd what you know if the council wants to um button this up, and this is the first time we're doing this, so um, this would of course be a template if there are future requests for phasing agreements.

I think one suggestion would be that in the place where it is approved as to form, just um uh staff could add approved as to form and content pure per municipal code section 17.06.055A, just to make it very clear.

That'll be my suggestion.

Okay, thank you.

I I move that we um approve um the motion as amended by our city attorney.

Second, can we take a roll call vote, please?

Councilmember Johnson?

Yes, Councilmember Nagengast.

No.

Councilmember Penrose?

Yes.

Vice Mayor Ruddick?

Yes.

Mayor Brownstone.

Yes.

Motion carries.

Great.

Um, I'm gonna make one last comment before we take a break.

Um, you know, one of our speakers tonight mentioned something about this project, you know, brings Rif RAF into a community.

And I just want to um really uh disagree with that underlying premise.

A lot of this housing, and when we define affordable, which was mentioned.

You know, low income folks include um teachers these days.

People making eighty to a hundred thousand dollars.

Um, and other workforce housing.

And that's what this community has actually been calling for for years, years.

Let's have a mixed housing projects.

I don't know, I think about my own parents.

They were teachers who grew up in a beautiful apartment building in the Bronx.

And everyone in that building uh was professional, and you know, they weren't riffraff.

So um I appreciate Midpen coming in and being willing to assess and make an important investment in providing more housing in our community.

There are always going to be issues, traffic will always be an issue.

That's the nature of providing more housing in a community.

So um I appreciate everybody's input on the discussion this evening from the public and council.

And um, you know, hopefully we can keep moving forward.

Thanks, everyone.

Let's take a ten minute break.

Okay, everybody.

We are going to continue.

Thank you.

We are um up to resolutions and staff reports.

Item 10A.

It's to adopt a resolution authorizing participation in the pooled liability assurance network joint powers insurance authority plan.

That's a mouthful.

Workers' compensation program.

That was definitely written by a lawyer.

Okay.

Great.

My people.

Okay.

We're gonna have to start with a staff report.

All right.

Uh good evening, uh Mr.

Mirror, Council, members of the public.

So a relatively short presentation.

Um, going to be presenting um hopefully a participation into a new workers' compensation program for the city.

So, quick background.

So the city has a risk management program.

It consists of two big pieces uh general liability, which is provided to us by something called the plan JPA.

This is for if someone, a citizen were to um become injured and file a claim against the city.

Um, this is uh an assurance, a pooled insurance group.

The second piece of our risk management program is workers' compensation.

Um, in the similar vein, uh, if an employee were to become injured or have an accident, um this is also a polled insurance group.

Uh up until um until the end of this year, um this has been provided by cities group, which is also a polled insurance group.

So, cities group, um, the city was one of the founding members of cities group.

This was formed back in the 70s, 1978.

Uh, so almost five decades um back in June, Cities Group has decided uh their board uh adopted a resolution to dissolve um with the last date of operations uh December 31st, uh 2025.

Naturally, um we brought this to council back in October, which was also approved.

Um then staff went out and looked for uh additional options, uh providers, and we received three quotes, which are listed on the screen, ranging from about ninety thousand to about one sixty.

Even though Sharp uh came in as the lowest, um, this is a group that has uh four to five members.

Um they're also are considering um restructuring.

So there's a little bit of uh uncertainty there about what they're going to do as a group because they're also teeny tiny.

Um so staff recommendation is to join the plan JPA.

So plan does our general liability when cities groups announced that they were going to be dissolving, plan um created a an additional work compensation workers' compensation program, which some of the members of cities group is also joining or intend to join plan this new program.

It's a little bit more expensive than SHARP, but uh our recommendation there is because um what's happening with Sharp potentially might happen with Sharp, but also that we've been really happy with Plan JPA.

Um, they handle all the administrative work for us, and um it's a it's a cost savings for the city.

So very quick uh presentation, of course I don't answer any questions, um, but the recommendation is as follows.

Uh authorize the city manager to execute all documents necessary uh for the city's participation in the pool liability assurance network joint powers insurance authority plan JPA, workers' compensation program, and two, authorize the interim administrative services director to make a budget adjustment in the amount of twenty-four thousand.

Questions from council, yeah.

Just quickly, thank you.

Um sometimes people seeing numbers, it looks cheaper.

You know, the reality is sometimes it isn't if you have an accident or that one event happens you know specifically I talk about self-insuring there's some risks associated with that so that's exactly why we're going through what we are and that's why we have and we do have funding yes to ensure so exactly right um we didn't look too hard into self-assuring because um in addition to the risk associated with that but also there's an compliance piece with that there's state requirements that um we just don't really have the manpower to do to take on um but yes uh it's uh the self-assuring is um is some risk associated any other questions from council so on page here it says I'm not sure if it's the right one but it says we have to commit for what three uh full program years on page three oh five what is it just is it yearly or three years it's three years the commitment but the um the cost is yearly and it gets um it gets uh recalculated every year based on payroll and and what's happening in the risk pool Patrick assign it no public comments anyone would like to make a motion I'd move that we authorize the city manager to execute all documents necessary for the city's participation in the pooled liability assurance network joint powers insurance authority also known as plan JPA workers compensation program and two authorize the interim administrative services director to make a budget adjustment in the amount of twenty four thousand dollars second take a roll call councilmember Johnson yes councilmember Nagengast yes council member penrose yes vice mayor reddick yes mayor brownstone yes motion carries thank you our next item on our agenda is item 10b draft climate action and adaptation plan phase two update we have a staff report again testing there we go.

Good evening, councils, members of the public.

My name is Matthew Nichols.

I am the senior management analyst for our public works department.

I am joined tonight by staff from Integral Consulting and blue Point Planning.

And tonight we'll be presenting the draft climate adaptation plan for your comments before we incorporate those comments and bring back the final plan.

I will let the staff from Inner Consulting and blue Point Planning introduce themselves.

Hi council, my name is Matthew Jameson.

I'm the project manager on this project, and I represent interval consulting.

And then also on Zoom is Dr.

David Revel, geomorphologist who's also been working on this project as well.

Good evening.

I'm Mindy Craig.

I'm the principal and founder of Blue Point Planning.

And I'm going to be doing the presentation.

I think we're going to have David joining, hopefully, at some point on that, and he'll be here hopefully for the questions.

So that's great.

So we're going to do a brief brief presentation and leave some time for any questions or thoughts on that.

So I'm going to start off with the purpose and need of this plan.

This was really developed and launched as a complement to existing planning efforts and through council guidance.

And the purpose of this is to prepare for and adapt to more quickly recover from wildfires, extreme storms, winds, and flooding that we've been seeing here in Half Moon Bay more frequently.

A quote that was really important that we heard was you know, Half Moon Bay is an isolated and isolatable region, and so that is a really critical concern.

The other piece, which is really being able to tap into some of these larger funding measures that are coming down the pike, like Prop 4 and SB 272 aligning with and complementing with the safety element that you've heard from most recently.

This is a very practical and feasible plan.

We've really worked to make sure it is within the city's purview to do all the work that is identified in here and is driven by the community, as well as really connecting to the many different stakeholders and partners here from state parks to Cal Fire to CowTrans.

These have all been important considerations and we've developed the plan.

So as I said, this has really been a community-driven planning process.

We've thought about the community and really have based the entire plan on what the community has told us.

So we really started out with a detailed evaluation of what the community needs and their concerns.

We did listening sessions, we did interviews, we did community open houses, we did scavenger hunts, we worked with the school and had them go through town to do some analysis and do some studying on that, which they loved.

We did an online survey.

At the same time, we were doing a detailed vulnerability assessment of what was happening in the town.

That resulted into a group of problem statements that helped us to understand what are the problems and the barriers we were addressing to create the strategies.

We got another round of community engagement to think about the visioning, the goals, what they thought of those strategies and those problems to help us then develop the more detailed those goals and the actions for that.

That then went into a priority screening criteria, and we refine that to the point where we are today to have the final plan.

And then we had another round, and it's still out there for community members to comment on online.

Some big concerns here.

Obviously, coastal erosion, people really care for that coast, the power outages and road blockages when we can't get out during any of those efforts, really concerning emergency preparedness, flooding around the SAM facility and that critical infrastructure as well as around our creeks.

And then on the flip side, when we have droughts in the water supply or lack thereof, and then impact to the natural landscape.

That is something that is really being the concern.

But from all of this and our community engagement, we came up with these key five goals and a vision.

And these have been organizing mechanisms for the entire plan.

So the community can see themselves when they look at this plan and see those goals that they help to develop.

I'm not going to go into too deep too much detail on these.

You can read them here, but this idea of a self-sufficient community, recognizing when those roads close, how do we make sure that we're okay here in Hack Moon Bay?

What does that take for our homes and our businesses?

We want our coastline and our open spaces to be thriving and beautiful.

We may make sure our city infrastructure is resilient enough for all of this work.

Make sure the city staff has the capacity to adapt to ever-changing elements and make sure that they can do the things that need to happen.

And then that economic sustainability makes sure that we can support and increase that.

So just diving in a little bit on the vulnerabilities.

You heard some of this on the safety element.

They have really been complementary to one another, learning from the work from one another.

This was a very detailed and substantial analysis looking at some of the key hazards, everything from creek and storm water flooding, coastal wave flooding, the coastal erosion, debris flows, there's obviously drought and heat waves are also the other piece of this, and high winds, which we saw here in Half Moon Bay.

Wildfire also is something that is evolving here in Half Moon Bay, and how that's going to be addressed.

We obviously have the outside of the city areas as is as a concern, as well as sort of new new regulations that are coming down the road.

So just diving into how we actually created some priorities.

So we developed these strategies that responded directly to these problem statements I mentioned.

And we had to ask first, is this within the city's purview?

We didn't want to try to fix one on one or excuse me, at one or the highways.

That's not the city's job.

Even though there are problems, we can't really do something about that.

So really clearly saying that's a partnership activity.

The staff is going to have to maintain a long-going relationship there, but we can't actually do that.

So what's in our purview?

From that, we had a clear action list, and then we did yet another priority screening.

And you can see down here on the bottom of the screen, there's a several different elements.

It included cost and the level effort.

Did we have a champion who could actually make sure that the strategy would work?

Is it feasible and elements like that?

That then resulted in a prioritized action list.

So I'm gonna quickly, these are some of the key priorities.

There's a lot more in here, but these are some of the key priorities, and I'll go by each goal.

Goal one really is uh addressing homes and businesses, primarily.

Um, and one of the uh key priorities is to bolster and further promote neighborhood level community emergency response teams.

So helping community members to understand how to work together, build that community, uh, is a critical one.

Um this is around our coast and our natural areas.

Um this one of the key ones was on creekside debris.

Um that was mentioned a lot by both the city as well as from community members that that's a challenge, and we really need to highlight that and address that so that we can also have a beautiful uh environment, but also making sure that it doesn't create any um flooding.

An important one on this infrastructure is developing community resilience hubs.

So if we want to have a place where we can stay during these different activities, we need a place where we can be safe, we can have power, we can have water, we can have communication.

So creating community resilience hubs is a really important strategy for us.

Um, and then one of that capacity thing, something that's really important, a grant writer who can help us get those funds.

I mentioned the Prop 4 funding that's coming down the pike.

We want to be able to grab that, we have the plan now, and we need just to be able to connect that to those grants.

Um, and finally, uh goal five increasing and supporting economic stability.

Um, one of the key things is the urban canopy in downtown.

We know how important that is, so we want that beautification and we want to be able to support that and provide shade.

So those are some of the kinds of examples of what you'll find in the more detailed um plan.

So that's my our quick brief overview of the plan, and now we can open it up for some questions.

Council members, yeah.

Patrick.

When you say urban canopy, what do you mean by that?

The trees.

So you know that's a right trees and fire.

So we, you know, that's a right.

Yeah, and I I'll welcome my other uh colleague here to talk about that.

But one of the key things that we recognize is that as you mentioned, or I'm as I mentioned, we're talking about extreme storms, extreme heat, drought, too much rain.

So we have to be careful that we don't go too far on one side of those and miss the other side.

So sometimes we go through a couple of wet winters and we forget about those droughts, and so at trees is a really good example.

We need to maintain our trees for the shade.

Um, it doesn't seem like that on some times of the year, so we want to make sure they're well taken care of, so that the branches aren't falling in high wind, but we also want to make sure that they don't have too many bushes that it can um ignite in a fire.

So we have to manage that, and and we recognize that there's uh some external forces that are going to be having us to deal with this at this moment, and Matt, I don't know if you want to add some more of that.

Yeah, I think that's a little bit oh, let me see if I could have this.

I'm using this mic, so apologies.

Is that working?

Okay, uh, so it's a great question.

So when we understand the uh we fire line policy, by the way, but it's like I'll just come over here.

Oh there we go.

Uh yeah, so we understand that with the fire-wise policies here in Happen Bay, especially downtown, um, you know, as you know, we were speaking about this earlier, actually, you know, these policies oftentimes weren't thought about within the context of downtowns.

They were more designed around, say, homes and you know, businesses in the wooy, so it's really more uh, you know, in the forest, basically, you know, that interface.

And I think that that's something that will be evolving in the future and something that the city would need to be tracking.

But in terms of like the immediate, in terms of how it you know, tie into this.

I think that there are ways of landscaping and adding two canopy that would probably not contribute to fire hazard.

And I think that's something that would take a little bit further study, but I think that there are plants that you could use that are not going to contribute and ways of planting that would not contribute to fire hazard, but also contribute to shade, and also there's other ways to contribute to shade as well.

I mean, plants are great, and it's you know, all the ecosystem benefits and the oxygen, all the cycling which we need, but also you know, having shade for you know the communities here in town that need it, I think is gonna be really important too.

So if those priorities can kind of work together, I think that'd be the ultimate goal.

If I could finish it off.

So when we first started this, the new Calfire maps had not come out yet.

So we originally started under the original Calfire maps, um, and then Integral also did some of their own fire mapping.

Um, once those new maps came out, we we went back, we extended their contract and incorporated that because we felt that that was something that you would want to hear and have incorporated.

And from that, yeah, we immediately saw that there was state regulations that were in conflict with one another.

And so while we don't have perfect answers or no, that's something that we called out in the plan that this is something that we need to drill into and figure out how we're gonna make these conflicting requirements work together, okay.

Yeah, and there who knows what could come up in the future too.

And one specific item, and maybe it, I was trying to see if it how it'd fall into this uh climate adaptation plan, but uh the Pillar Cedar's dam.

If there was a failure, I mean we were talking about flooding.

I don't know if that relates to a specific event or not.

I'm not sure if that's yeah, thank you.

It's a good question.

I mean, I believe that's something that's addressed in the safety element, um, and not really something that's just in this plan.

Maddie, if you want to say that so, because I know we say it uh aligns and complements the safety element.

So I don't know if we would make a reference to it or not, or just it just stay away.

Because we did talk about the um landfill, the county uh along the coast there.

So I don't know if that's something that gets mentioned or not, or the landfill specifically is mentioned.

Yeah, it is in there.

That's why I wondered if what pillar citizens would be mentioned or not, the dam failure.

Right.

I think on that particular one, we were trying to stay in our lane and leave it to the safety element.

So staff had directed them not to go into that direction.

Okay, um I'd like that you mentioned neighborhood um planning.

I'm very interested in neighborhoods, actually, and about you know, building sustainability and um mutual aid and all those sorts of things.

I've always thought, given the layout of Half Moon Bay along, you know, highway one, um, that neighborhood plans might be a good idea.

And I was thinking originally, you know, like uh capital improvement projects, but I like that you brought up, you know, um, planning for you know climate impacts.

And I was wondering if you could just talk a little bit about your concept about neighborhood, you know, planning and neighborhood strengths and that sort of thing.

Yeah, there's that it's getting to be even as a stronger uh area for communities.

I it's funny, I'm doing it in my community right now, it's a fire-wise community, and you can group together 50 houses or so, and you work together on the vegetation management, and also like you start to understand do you have eaves on your house?

How do you think about the vents?

And so you can work as a community to look at how do you harden your home to some of these fire impacts?

Um, and so that's a great way to start to have that community-led engagement.

Also making sure in an emergency you know who your neighbor is.

Um, you know if they may not be mobile and you can help them in an emergency.

So there's a whole bunch of different dimensions of that.

It also is just a it's a community-building thing that helps that sort of strengthening of the community.

So I think that's a really important piece.

And when we think about the city's purview there, you know, it's helping them to facilitate that, you know, to be able to, is there education materials, is there resources that can be created to enable those communities to know that this even exists.

You know, so it's it's a it's a great way to sort of have the city have a the you're obviously not going to be doing that work, but you're helping the communities and businesses, frankly, get involved in thinking uh more clearly about it.

Yeah, and cert is important there too.

Yeah, exactly.

So I've been interested in how do you do this without creating silos, having people silo in their neighborhoods.

How do you like, you know, plan it the neighborhood level and then bring it all together, you know, community wide?

Yeah.

Um, but I think that's really important for our sustainability and self-reliance, given the fact that we are isolated and isolatable.

Well, I think about your farmers markets, and you could you could do a uh a group events at farmers markets or at uh you know your your new John Carter Park and and those sort of things where you bring them all together and share.

You know, I think there's some opportunities working with some of your programming and community events that could really highlight that um in a positive way.

I like that idea.

Did you do anything like identifying any like early projects?

Like is example projects that we might take up.

Yeah, so one of the recommendations in the plan is to use this plan um kind of as the framework and the outline to go into those neighborhoods into those communities, meet with our cert teams in those communities, and kind of having this as like the master overarching document, being able to go in and have those conversations and create more specified documentation that's more community specific.

When we first started this work, we had the conversation of how how zoomed in or how zoomed out do we want to be, because we we didn't have the bandwidth to do both.

Um, and we figured that by taking a zoomed out approach, we could get a better view of some of the things that impact Half Moon Bay on the outside, so so transportation, power, communication, things outside of our city limits that impact us directly, um, and we can take that knowledge that we've learned and go into those neighborhoods.

And so that would be a very easy and low lift low effort thing that we can do to hit the ground rolling is meeting with those CERTs, meeting with those neighborhoods and creating more um drilled down plans.

Sounds really good.

Yeah, I think that the next phase of this will be you know really interesting about how we pull it all together and make it real for people.

And maybe when we have staff reports on various issues, you know, I know we identify financial impacts, maybe we cite, you know, is this related to our climate action plan and try to make it, you know, real that way.

But um, you know, it looks great, and I really appreciated all the the public outreach.

I think that's super super important.

So thank you.

Can you answer to the plan that you just showed us?

I'm sorry.

Was CERT actually mentioned in the plan that you chose it was, right?

Yeah, I think I just had it as it's one of our priority actions actually, it's one of our priority actions.

I just brought it back up on one, two, three bolster and further promote the neighborhood level community emergency response teams.

Yeah.

So that's a definitely a priority.

Because they're such a great resource, because they are already in the neighborhoods, and they have a common uh program for you know fire-safe communities.

Exactly.

So we'll give that consistency, you know, versus just the silo, but customized to those neighborhoods.

Um yeah, it's probably one of the most evolved systems we have, and when nothing else is working, they'll be there.

So uh in terms of um grants, um do you also recommend particular grant writers who are have a high rate of success, ideally working on a contingency, but there certainly are folks out there.

We haven't said who that should be, if it's internal to the city, or if it's somebody you hire as a contract, and I imagine over time you might change on some of those things.

So I'm not sure if I think that is such a huge priority, and the quicker we start, maybe on identifying a great grant writer, yeah.

Um, because yeah, money's tight.

So if there's stuff available now, someone who's already an expert around both those grants and also understanding, you know, our cities and making a good case.

Um, yeah, I think that's essential to really get this thing off the ground quicker, and effectively.

So that would be great if you can also add that in.

Appreciate it.

Okay.

Um time to make a motion.

The mayor, speaker, oh I just uh I thought this report was I do have two speakers.

Go ahead.

Oh, I just I just thought this report was really well written, and I really appreciate you know the Keyo ditch, the Pullman Ditch was brought up.

Um, and these are things that we've been bringing forward to council for a long time.

Um the canopy, which is uh was I guess from council member.

I was thinking the same thing, you know.

Here we are told take the trees out, and here we are being told to put them in for shade.

But we also have agricultural workers that need shade for work, which you mentioned.

You also brought forward uh public work should be monitoring cracks and movement of the earth and and that kind of data, I think is a great thing that we should be doing.

There's other things I'd love to see public works do too.

You know, while they're doing their rounds, they make notes on things and report back, and then you guys have a long list of things that this is movement, that's eroding, and we need to fix that sign and that thing too.

So, making Todd work even harder.

Um, but I really it was well written, it was it was almost to the point where it's kind of depressing.

You know, you're you just you're thinking there's a major disaster going on here, but you guys really did a good job.

I mean, this was a lot of reading, but I was very impressed with it.

Very impressed with it.

We have a few public comments.

Um, just want to uh mention that um Jimmy Benjamin, who we all know has provided us a couple of pages of thoughtful comments, and um, but he can't be here this evening, so we will take time to read uh through those uh individually.

Um but we have two speakers.

Um first is Chad Hooker, and he will be followed by Kimber Moreland.

Good evening.

Um I've been in front of this group before uh talking about how I think the city needs to spend its money getting some work done, not hiring people to tell you how to think about planning for getting the work done, and I'm back to say that again.

Um I saw that this report uh was uh this contract was led to integral consulting for two hundred thousand dollars, and that number made me think maybe I should read this report.

So I did, and I'm dismayed.

I assume that each of you has read it as well.

So I'll just ask the sort of obvious question here: did you come away after reading this report, reading this document with anything more than a few small crumbs of new information?

Or did you, as I did, come away from it feeling like it's full of a lot of buzzwords, but it doesn't tell you where to go next, what to do next, except to proceed to yet another plan, have yet another report, and that's what I think we should not be doing.

I can barely read my own writing here, so please be patient.

Um, this report focuses well on a plan.

The information is well organized, there are plenty of flow charts and little circles and arrows, it looks like the back of a United Airlines magazine with where do they fly?

This is everything's all connected together.

But if you look carefully at all of that, there's not real information there.

It's just a bunch of lines and circles that's supposed to look like information.

It doesn't tell you anything that you didn't already know.

So I think we need to know how to do exactly we know what needs to be done.

We need to actually do it.

Not how to keep moving forward on what the staff report refers to as this roadmap toward a plan.

Now I get that you'll need to pass this tonight.

You'll need to adopt this so that is a it's a guide to future planning.

Also, words from the staff report future planning.

I can't quite guess what that'll entail.

But this will position the city for funding opportunities.

I realize that without such a plan in place, you can't apply for grants.

But this is enough.

No more studies, no more updates, no more subcontract consultants.

Just no more long paragraphs and pages of wordsmithing that don't really tell us anything that we didn't already know.

I agree with Patrick, this is well organized, it was informative in some ways, but I came away from 150 pages feeling like I didn't learn a whole lot there, and that was a lot of reading.

It's time to clean the creeks, protect the SAM plants, spend the city's money fixing storm drainage problems instead of getting reports about storm drainage problems.

Um, not just complaining here as a taxpayer.

These reports, it takes a year to do this.

So I need to I need to uh I need to caution you about something.

In the appendix, there is a goal for build and sustain the city's capacity to increase resilience.

The first item in that reads provide an annual climate hazard report for the council to track impacts and vulnerabilities.

They want you to hire them again every single year.

Don't do this.

It's time to actually do the work.

The city doesn't have a lot of money.

Let's spend what we've got fixing what we know needs to be fixed.

Take on the five major projects that you know about in town, it'll fix a lot of the other stuff.

All this connectivity that the report talks about, that'll go away if you fix the major things that need to be fixed.

Please spend our money responsibly.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chad.

Our next speaker is Kimber.

Hello again.

Thank you for this time.

I appreciate it.

I also commend the efforts and care to protect our community as I read through this report.

There are a lot of things that I took away with me that I absolutely agreed with and saw that were very warranted.

Um there are a few things that I wanted to point out for spaces for refinement that I think some could be some low-hanging fruit and align with the priorities that you guys have outlined here.

I'd like to speak to the concern of the Half Moon Bay farmers, especially because of the specialty crops vulnerability to extreme heat and flooding, which I think in California we know are supposed to be the biggest impacts from climate, and just a little bit of a background.

I worked for the USDA for the past five years as a somebody helping to implement best management practices for farmers.

There's a lot of low-hanging fruit, there's a lot of information out there.

It's not expensive, and the information about what best management practices for this community could have, is there, it just needs to be communicated.

Um I think with some of the community connections that this report brings up of who they're going to be working with and reaching out to, it would be a it is identified as one of the highest risks, but I think it lacks in its actual like implementation after it's identified as one of the highest risks.

There's not much prioritization in how that's going to happen for one of our most vulnerable and valued community members.

Um secondly, I wanted to point out that the current efforts that have happened, such as the coastal trial or trail expansion.

I know that these are very well-intentioned and meaningful.

I appreciate them, but I think that they could be done with better care and refinement, especially that align with the goals of this type of report.

For example, there's major machinery and equipment that included tilling and removing of plants.

It also looks like one of the rocks that was used as serpentinite.

I haven't tested this, so I can't confirm that, but typically serpentinite has high metals in it and it inhibits plant growth forever in that environment.

Also, some of the things that were done are known to increase erosion and flooding risk.

So I think I would really appreciate that as we move forward and as this report outlines that this work needs to be done, that there's expectations, rules, and guidelines for the implementations being made about the contractors we're working with and how they're going to be doing that work, that they're using science to prove and using best management practices that take into account our ecosystems as opposed to just profit about what we're trained to do, and that they know our rules, our expectations and guidelines to do that, and that yes, the work is done, but it's done using science in good sense and care for our community.

Thank you.

Thank you, Kimber.

That's it for public comments.

Okay.

So back to council discussion.

Any further um feedback and direction for final preparation of the plan.

I think it's a great um beginning.

I as Chad Oker said, we need to have resolution.

We have a lot of people with those Keoditch and the Pullman.

We have the people in Kenyatta Co.

poor insulation, as you guys pointed out.

I saw the details, a lot of good details, but the data's there.

And the next level is to come up with a plan to resolve some of these uh the creeks with debris and them.

We've brought, they brought it up.

The planning commissioners brought it up.

They live by they're they're clogged up.

We've got the unhoused people living in those creeks that are creating some of the problems there too.

Plus, you even mentioned it, you know, they're actually forgotten and they're in there, and then that's a hazard too because they die or they could get injured.

So I read the details and I put myself in each one of these.

We need to have a plan, and this is the beginning of the plan.

So, Chad, I understand what you're saying, but this is the beginning of it, and then now we have to do action.

And these are the some most of these items in here were brought up on what do we want to try to accomplish.

And I think the erosion and the ditches and all that stuff was one of our one of our items.

So we do have a plan.

You haven't been going all the meetings yet, but we are pushing forward, but we have to do it in a slow process.

But this is a good Bible.

And as somebody who comes from the grant-making world, it really helps to have a plan if you want, you know, state park bond money and you know, water money, and you know, so I think you recognize that, Chad, and uh that's this is.

Um, but uh I think the comments have been pretty clear.

There's probably some minor tweaks that'll be made, and then we'll bring it back on the 16th for adoption.

Great.

Thank you.

Great, thank you.

Thanks for coming.

Thanks for staying.

I appreciate it.

All right.

Last agendized item of the evening is the um authorization of interim legal services agreement.

Do you want to?

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I'll just give a very quick overview on this.

Um, as we know, uh, we're transitioning our legal services here in Half Moon Bay.

Uh we went through a prof and RFP process that was narrowed down by the council and um after interviews, the council has selected the firm of Burke Williams and Sorns and LLP to provide interim uh city attorney services to the city that we hope to get up and running here in the next uh you know during this calendar year.

And so with that goal in mind, uh the council met um in closed session to just talk about some of the negotiating points that are important, and this item tonight is just seeking uh uh authorization by the council for uh a committee of uh the mayor and the vice mayor to finalize negotiations and execute that interim agreement, which would be for a term up to six months, of course, with the option to uh make it a permanent uh appointment, which would come back to the city council for further consideration down the road.

So we're looking for a motion tonight um giving uh authorizing the mayor and vice mayor to negotiate and execute an interim legal services agreement with Burke Williams and Sorns and LLP for a period of six months with the option to convert to a permanent appointment.

I'll make the motion to go authorize the mayor and vice mayor to negotiate and execute an interim legal service services agreement with Burke, Williams and Sorensen, LLP for a period of six months with the option to convert to a permanent appointment, second.

Councilmember Johnson?

Yes, Councilmember Nagingas?

Yes, Councilmember Penrose?

Yes, Vice Mayor Reddick, yes, Mayor Brownstone.

Yes, motion carries.

Thank you.

Commission committee updates.

The only update I will give is um one um the there are no further uh meetings of the planning commission this calendar year.

So they'll resume in January, and then because of the timing of our regularly scheduled recreation commission meetings, which fall usually the day before Thanksgiving and somewhere in the Christmas break period.

Um we traditionally cancel those two meetings and hold a special meeting in the middle of uh December, and so that will take place on um I believe it's December 10th, and so um that'll be our final recreation commission meeting of the year.

Thank you.

Um future items for future discussion, possible agenda items.

Councilmember Penrose, yeah.

Um I think I spoke about this last council session too.

Uh a young man with a child that couldn't have been more than two years old at the most.

Um he was carrying them in a backpack, went through two stop signs going at least 20 miles an hour, maybe maybe longer than that, didn't turn his head.

I saw the same guy with a baby in his arms as he's driving, going through a stop sign two days ago.

Driving what?

Driving an electric bike, an electric bike.

Or uh, you know, or or something else that looked like an electric bike.

But I don't I don't know what we can do with state regulations being the way they are, but I definitely want to talk about it, and I definitely want us to come up with something where we we take action.

I don't I don't want to see a kid being killed.

I don't want to see anybody dying from something stupid like this, so you're talking about e-bike safety.

I'm talking about, yeah, e-bike safety and and e-bike regulation.

And if I may, just to clarify, um, we're not just talking about the coastal trail anymore.

We're talking about just broadly street trails.

Absolutely, yeah.

Yeah, period.

And I don't know who we need to get in to talk about it.

But you know, maybe somebody from the state ought to be here.

I would think I would add the word enforceable.

I mean this is what I mean, a lot of cities are struggling with this.

What is enforceable?

You could have regulations, you know what I mean?

I understand that.

I get that.

I know it's difficult.

I want to be the city that does something about it.

I don't want to say, okay, it's a hard problem.

We can't deal with it because everybody's having the same problem, and the state's making it so difficult.

I want to do something.

I want to do something.

And and you know, maybe it means we have to invite Governor Newsom here to a city council meeting to have a discussion.

Maybe that's what we do.

We actually express interest in tackling this back in it was either August or September, too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's not the first time we've talked about it.

And the BPAC committee is working on something, but that's the coastal trail, I think only.

Right?

They're working on the e-bike city.

I don't know that it's just the coastal trail.

I have Jim Sullivan's presentation, but I think it was more than that, but I'm not sure.

Because there are going to bring something for us to look at, and I don't know if that's the time to talk about it at that time.

There is something that the BPAC committee is putting together.

Yeah, everybody's talking about it.

Everybody's talking about it.

Nobody's doing anything.

I would like to do something.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And my suggestion is that city staff invite Governor Newsom or someone like him to come to City Council meeting, Matthew.

Well.

And talk to us about it.

Yeah, or somebody like him, but certainly someone maybe at a state level, because I'd be interested in someone explaining as to why the state passed the legislation that it did overriding all local.

You know what was even behind that?

Was that lobbying by the e-bike?

You know, just to get some ideas about what out of you know approach this situation.

I think a lot of people are concerned.

I walk the trail every day.

And every other day I yell at somebody going too fast.

So and a bell on my bike or not even saying they're coming up on us and they're quiet.

And this is a council, well, before you came aboard, both of you, that unanimously, unanimously, much to my wonderful surprise, wanted to ban e-bikes on the trail portions that we can control.

And um but then we got upended by um state legislation.

So, well, my impression from going to the bike and pet committee meeting was that they actually wanted more specific direction from the city council.

Okay.

So I'm gonna say, Yeah, they don't know what they're doing.

They're not they don't know what they're doing.

Nobody knows what they're doing.

We need to we need to attack it and we need to attack it in an intelligent way, and we need to take it on as a serious problem that we really want to solve, not just talk about the noise.

The joint meetings we've had with Planning Commission, I think have been successful.

I wonder if something similar joint meeting with BPAC, a special study session on this topic might be helpful.

No.

No, no.

I I cannot bear the thought of sitting around talking about how dangerous it is to ride an e-bike.

Uh uh and have us all agree that it's just a terrible problem, and we need to do something about it.

No, I want to do something about it.

I don't want to have a meeting about it.

We all know it's an issue.

We all know it's an issue that's difficult.

Well, let's bring in if we're gonna bring in a speaker.

Well, we could do it remotely.

We don't have to worry about them whether that could be here in person, but I would start with um maybe Josh Becker, and then he could recommend someone who's closer to the issue at the state level.

It might not be my good representative.

And I think he'd be willing to do it.

Yeah, and he's someone who speaks to the governor, so I think that might be a good start.

Yeah, you have an eleven percent chance of dying on an e-bike if you have an accident.

11% chance of dying.

Regular bikes, one percent, less than one percent.

Yeah, I nearly had a head-on collision in the summer.

From a kid, 10-year-old riding a bike with a throttle and looking at his phone, you know.

11%.

Okay, I'm taking my e-bike off my Christmas shopping list then.

Thank you.

Wish list.

All right, I agree, and it's something that troubles me all the time.

So um okay.

Other than inviting Governor Newsom, I'm a little unclear what the direction is because I it seems like we have to have a conversation.

I invite Josh Becker.

Okay.

I did mark down bringing reaching out to our state officials, but what we need to deal with e-bike safety and regulation.

And what is he gonna do about it?

We're gonna start tagging it.

Is this just a discuss uh a business item in the future where we invite someone to come and address this issue?

Yes, I think that's the way to do it.

I don't let me just say that I attended the bike ped committee meeting, and um my uh appointee, Jim Sullivan, actually brought a presentation, and I think maybe we start.

He's looked into the issue about what to do.

We don't need a presentation.

We know it's a problem.

We need to be talking about the people to the people who are doing something about it.

Is this you know I think it's gonna poker.

We we spend so much time getting ready for things, hearing for things.

Well, maybe meetings about things, writing papers about things.

He consolidated what a lot of different cities are doing.

I thought it was very useful, but I haven't seen that presentation.

Um, yes, I'd like to see it.

And maybe we could invite the bike and rec committee to identify.

You remember when we were looking for a model for the CARES program, right?

And there were very few programs out there that did quality community policing.

And there was that group from uh where was it in uh Oregon, right?

Eugene?

Yeah.

So perhaps they can uh recommend someone from a group like that that's actually doing something in their community that we can uh model something off of.

I think Jim Sullivan probably knows who some of those people might be, so yeah, okay.

Sounds good.

Okay, anything left on here?

I believe that's it.

Oh, city council reports.

How can I forget?

Any city council reports?

All right.

I know you're sad to see me do this, but we are going to adjourn this meeting.

Thank you all.

Thanks for our elite audience here staying.

Appreciate it, everyone.

Good work tonight.

Thank you