I'd like to bring to order this meeting of the Plan Commission for March twenty-fourth, two thousand twenty-six.

Um if you could join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, please start us off.

Like that's a California.

I could pledge it.

And if you could uh Bridget whoops Bridget, if you could read out the protocol, I'll just um state that we have um PCT doing audio video on YouTube as well as channel twenty-seven.

We also have interpretation, which I am turning on.

And um we will allow three minutes for speaking um in house and then um on Zoom.

I will go ahead and turn it back to you.

Chair Gordon.

Thank you.

Um I don't have my agenda.

I'm gonna go ahead and start with a roll call and then we can give you a minute.

Uh Commissioner Reddick.

I am here.

Commissioner Rems.

Here.

Commissioner Del Negro?

Here.

Vice Chair Hernandez.

I am present.

And Chair Gorn.

I'm here.

All Penny Commissioners are present this evening.

Very good.

Um I just don't know if we have any um agendas to approve.

That's what I'm looking at.

We have the minutes minutes.

Yes.

We have minutes from February, which I know you need to abstain from, but we can go ahead and if we can honor a motion for the February tenth minutes.

I make a motion to approve both sets of minutes before us.

Okay.

Yes.

Commissioner Reddick was not at the second meeting.

Shall we do the first one first?

I think it would be easier to do two separate motions.

February 10th.

Yes.

I'll second it.

Okay.

Commissioner Rems.

Yes.

Commissioner Reddick.

Yes.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Yes.

Commissioner Del Negro?

Yes.

And Commissioner Gorn.

Yes, please.

Abstain.

That one, right?

No.

It says I'm present.

Oh.

Well, for part of it.

Okay.

I'll explain.

Okay.

Okay.

Thanks.

And then, sorry about that.

And then the March second, uh, March 10th.

Sorry, all those dates that are the same.

March 10th.

I meant we had um Reddick and REMs absent.

Mr.

Chairman, this point of order.

Um I wasn't here for the town flu.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I make a motion to approve the minutes from March 10th.

I'll make a second to that motion.

Roll call.

Um yeah.

Uh Commissioner Dal Negro.

Yes.

Commissioner Hernandez.

Yes.

Commissioner Gorn.

Yes, please.

Sorry, Chair Gorn.

Yeah, whatever.

I apologize for that.

And Ruddick and Rems will recuse.

Thank you, guys.

Appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

All right.

I wanted to open up uh it's time for public comment for anything that's not on the agenda.

So if there's anybody in the audience who has something that they want to talk about that's not on our agenda or online, um I can open it up.

Do you see anything?

Bridget?

I'm not seeing anyone.

Okay, so I'm not gonna open it up.

We're gonna get to our um project.

Our item.

Item 1A.

The use permit.

Oops, sorry.

That is not the right spot.

Sorry.

The uh coast development permit for the self-storage facility over by curly and reds.

Um who has staff report tonight?

Leslie.

That's me.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um I'll do a brief presentation.

This is uh for a storage self-storage facility at 215 San Mateo Road.

Um the CDP number is PDP 24039.

So the proposal is for a storage facility behind what is now Curly and Reds auto body shop.

Um in this image here you can see the property um outlined in blue um on San Mateo Road, pretty close to where Main Street comes out.

Uh closer look at the property as it as it currently exists um here in this aerial.

The proposal is to put the uh storage facility behind curly and reds.

Um there would be 68 prefabricated storage units, uh bioretention pond, uh reconfigured parking with 20 spaces.

That's 15 outside and five inside, a chain link fence, um, but also solid competent composite fencing um along the back or southern edge of the property.

Uh retaining walls and uh a fire lane.

The prefabricated units uh look something like this.

They have sliding doors, and they um this one is 20 by 10, but um the ones proposed for this are 8 by 20 and they're eight feet tall and lined up together, they would look something like the image here provided by the architect.

You can also see that the parking would be reconfigured.

And you can see the bioretention.

It looks more like a bio swale in this image, but it is a retention pond.

This is another image um of the layout as it's proposed.

I'll let you sort of take that in for a minute.

You can see in the back there's um a sloped hillside, and then um a lane to drive in and out of the um to the different storage units.

The fire lane is 22 feet wide.

There would be a gate um blocking access.

The hours of operation would be from 8 a.m.

to 7 p.m.

The land use designation in our land use plan is light industrial.

The zoning for this lot is industrial.

Storage is allowed as a principally permitted use in the zoning designation.

So no use permit is required, but the development itself triggers the coastal development permit requirement.

The issues raised by this project are summarized in the staff report and also I'll summarize them here.

There's not a lot of environmentally sensitive habitat in the area.

There are some visual resources.

The site is located on the town boulevard scenic corridor.

So some of the requirements for that are that development is set back from the street, that it doesn't block views to the ocean or views to the town's center, and that it doesn't detract at all from the area.

And there's no historic resources here.

So near the project site, which is outlined in blue, the habitat type there is rudderal.

Typically rudderal is non-invasive, I mean invasive species, non-native, fast growing plants.

And the reason the rudderal habitat over on the far side of the image is pink, is because there was a sensitive species there.

All of those areas are pretty far from the project site.

Noise is certainly an issue, and the applicant did a noise study, which essentially found that the noise from highway 92 is those noise levels are above ambient noise levels, and essentially as loud as anything that would be generated by the storage facilities themselves.

Um there's a condition requiring maintenance of landscaping um and a condition requiring that they submit a landscaping plan that includes landscaping along the frontage of San Mateo Road and along the uh retaining walls.

Um there's a condition requiring that the back retaining wall be painted to blend into the vegetated the vegetated slope, and while I'm talking about the back retaining wall, I have to apologize to Chair Gorn, because when I talked with him yesterday, I um indicated that I thought the retaining wall in the back was 12 feet high.

That was part of an earlier proposal, but it's much lower than that.

So um sorry about that.

Um there's also a condition requiring that they come back for a signed permit.

They have a number of signs proposed, um, the which would be part of a programmatic sign permit.

Um and those signs would control some of the use uses and restrictions of use.

So they don't want people in there after 7 p.m.

And when people are in there, they want them to respect neighbors and noise um generation.

Um there's also a condition requiring pavement striping uh and signs for safe ingress and egress.

So um one of the things that um we've been working with the owners of the barn uh on is uh striping the pavement so it's very clear where cars can enter and where cars must exit.

Um and the traffic study that they did um discussed uh a need for for that clarity and also a clear a clear area to cue as cars are leaving and entering.

So um that's that's why that condition of approval is there.

And finally, our recommendation is to um adopt a resolution approving one, a coastal development permit with architectural and site plan review for a self-storage facility in the back of a developed lot that would include 68 prefabricated units placed on new asphalt, parking, retaining walls, fencing located at 215 San Mateo Road, and two a categorical exemption from the California Environmental Quality Act pursuant to California Code of Regulations Section 15332 for infill development.

And that concludes my presentation.

I would like to bring it up to commissioners to if you have some questions, clarifying questions, Steve, uh Commissioner Reddick.

Thank you, Director Lako, for the report.

Um I'm wondering if there are plans for any lighting in the area around the storage units and the parking lot and or the parking lot.

Um yes, there are plans for solar lighting.

Um in the project plans that are attached, um, they actually show um the solar lighting that is dark sky compliant as the lights they've chosen to use there.

Well, I apologize.

I must have missed that.

You say it's in the plans.

Um I I thought it was in the plans.

Um, you know what?

I'm sorry, I did not include that.

They included with their application submittal a write-up of the of their um solar lighting that indicates that it's dark sky compliant.

I'm sorry, that's not on the project plans.

So um I presume the city has a way to uh evaluate those the the intention with the lighting and make sure it complies with our best practices for for such spaces.

Um you mean outside of the analysis they provided or are you suggesting some kind of um condition that would require inspecting afterwards?

Well, I'm imagining that the city has guidelines for dark sky and and other purposes that that would they would evaluate any such uh plans against and assure that they're uh gonna comply with this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um not something that we would need to attach a condition for in that case.

No, not something that we need to attach a condition for if they have already since they have already complied with that in their applications have been open.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Commissioner Del Negro?

Chair.

Um the size of the lot, that's actually gonna be covered, the percentage of the lot covered by the facilities themselves.

Do we know those numbers?

I think they might be in the staff report.

Let me open it.

It's uh it's on one of the drawings.

Okay.

Uh the lot area is 41,000 square feet, and the existing impervious is 21,000.

Uh the proposed impervious is 39,000, basically 40,000 square feet.

41,000 would be the whole lot with the auto body shop.

Yeah, it's pretty much the whole thing is not just the area that was in the chair.

Is that it?

That's it right now.

Oh okay.

I'll ask the question even though I think I know the answer uh uh for the director.

Um do you know if these units are environmentally controlled?

Do they have heaty heating and air conditioning in?

Uh no.

Okay.

Um let me just confirm what the applicant.

Thank you.

Nope.

Um Vice Chair Hernandez.

Thank you.

Follow up on Commissioner Ruddick's questions.

Um is there a like hour of operations for the lighting?

Would it be similar to any business along the 92, or would it be just sort of security lighting that's activated in case you know there's a disturbance?

Can you just give me a sense of like you know this sounds like it's not not really an issue, but um I know there are neighbors um in the adjacent neighborhood who have historically been very vocal about any impingement upon their privacy or you know, noise or light or what they consider to be a nuisance.

So is there kind of a set of hours when the lighting is gonna be on and off?

Um I'm gonna have the applicant answer that.

Okay.

Oh, you have to come to the microphone.

Sorry, Jason.

You might need to turn it on.

Well, you're gonna lift it up.

And you're gonna uh tell us your name and after you turn it on.

I think so.

Perfect.

What's your name?

Uh name Jason.

Jason Million.

Hey there.

Um yeah, so the security lights were going to be motion activated for uh there's uh different programmings on there, but uh for at night time.

And then obviously they come on with uh photosensor there, so you're not planning to have them on flood lights on 24 by seven or anything like that.

No, I I think there's some current lights at at the facility.

Um I I would imagine that they turn off you know the regular times, uh maybe eight or nine at night.

You're not increasing the impact.

No, no, sir.

Okay, great.

Um I had another question for you, Leslie.

Um in looking at our policies, um can you help me understand uh whether or not this project falls into the city's gateway?

Um thank you.

Uh so it does fall into the city's gateway into the northern gateway.

And um there isn't a great analysis in the staff report of that.

Um I really focused on the town boulevard scenic corridor, and thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Um by focusing on the town corridor, I think I I got the town boulevard scenic corridor.

I think I got to the same place that I would get to with the policies for the gateway.

Um that is to make sure that there's landscaped improvements and maintenance.

If that's what the planning commission would like.

But there are some there are some really specific policies.

And I think the biggest impact from from my reading of the policies that would be applicable if it is in the gateway, is that it's just going to be a little bit more vigorous in terms of the landscaping and you know focusing the approach as you come in to be more visually consistent with what we want from the downtown character.

So one thing that we might consider doing is going to the architectural advisory uh committee with the landscaping plan once it's submitted.

Okay.

That's seems like a reasonable thing for us to discuss.

Um I have no other questions.

Okay, I had a couple more.

Um do you know how much retaining walls there how the length of retaining walls?

Because it seems like there's three, right?

There's three retaining walls.

There's a four-foot tall one, there's the eight-foot tall one, and then there's one that goes from three feet to six feet.

Right.

It's like um over that back area.

So do we know how much those are all together?

Uh linear feet.

Yeah, linear feet.

Like how like it's probably a good question for the applicant or the architect.

For those of you watching at home, the architect is reviewing the plans before he responds to us.

We have to do it at the microphone, I'm sorry.

The architect said that it looks to be about 400 feet.

400 feet from the retaining walls.

And then the sorry, but I also wanted to know about the the fences, because there's uh it looks like there's um there's chain link fence, six-foot tall, chain link fence, and it looks like there's four of them.

Like it goes all the way, you guess you could call it one going all the way around.

And then solid fence going along the back as well.

Oh, and solid fence in the back.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Um, do you want to give me a little bit more?

If you can come to the microphone and let us know the linear footage of fencing, that would be helpful.

Okay.

Hello, I'm Andrew.

Hi there.

I work for Ed Love.

Um I'd say there'd be about 600 feet because it's got to enclose all four sides of the facility.

Okay.

And then um I don't know if this is for you, but the the bioswale.

What's the what's the purpose of the bioswale?

The bioswale, if you look at the site plan, it shows storm drains draining from the low side of the lot and catches all the water and puts all the water in the bioswell to treat the water.

Okay.

And so it's like a bio catchment, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm wondering about the car washing area being right next to it because car washing is not just dirt that comes off, it's like all the things from cars.

Right.

The, you know, the brakes, the tires, the oil, all that.

And it seems like it would wash right into the bioswell.

Is that on purpose?

Uh we did discuss this uh at City Hall with uh believe Delita.

Um, and he did, you know, recommend using organic soaps and making sure that it would be naturally filtered through the bioswell.

So not really the I'm not so concerned about the soap as all the other stuff in the car.

Right.

Right.

But that's it but that was that was our means of of dealing with it and treating it.

It's like to put it next to the bioswale.

Yeah.

So that's on purpose.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the way that the bio a bioswale or a retention pond works is um is that it's it's a natural way of filtering out some chemicals.

So so having it near the car wash is purposeful and improvement.

Yeah.

So um while you're up here, what is a what's a solid or pile?

Is what it's like, I think that's what I read for the retaining walls.

What are they made out of?

I guess uh we we have uh suggested soldier pile, um but we are still investigating.

So it's just spelled wrong.

All right.

Yeah, okay.

Um the room into the ground.

So that's uh those are metal posts?

Yeah.

Or we could do a concrete retaining wall.

It's more of a question of cost, really.

Okay.

Um I think that's that's it.

Okay.

Thanks for having me.

Follow-up question.

What?

Uh one more thing I wanted to ask.

Um is the floodplain?

Isn't this in the floodplain?

The map the San Mateo County did of the flood area?

This is one of those areas.

I would imagine that it is and I think I have that layer here.

Let me look it up to confirm.

Okay.

So while she's doing that, one more question, sorry.

It the you have these little these like six foot wide um in between all the buildings.

So it's 12 feet really for cars to go by back and forth, which is fine for a road, because cars are about like five feet wide, I think, right?

But how wide are trucks?

Um well, there would be a size limit for the truck to go in.

But this we we use the the widths of these aisles based on or a meeting we had with John Rydell, the fire show.

Okay.

And that was what we were allowed to use.

And so but so the it doesn't I mean I can't I can't quite tell from this plan.

Maybe I'm not reading it right, but it looks to me like you go down the path along these in illness corridor, right?

That's 12 feet wide, and then you hit a retaining wall at the end.

And you need to turn around.

Right?

So back either back in or pull in.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

But there like there's no place to Okay.

Thanks.

Yeah.

It does not show up as being in the 100-year flood or 500 year floodplain.

Um we don't have the best FEMA mapping, I have to admit.

Um it's not in a tsunami inundation zone.

It's just outside the tsunami inundation zone.

And well, it also it doesn't mean you can't build there, because you know, we built the um, I'm just trying to give you all the all the water hazards though.

But the water hazard does go into stone pine we built there anyway, but um, but I'm I'm 99% sure that that floodplain gets wider and not narrower as it goes farther on.

Yeah, so it it doesn't show up in the in the 100 or the 500-year floodplain um or in the USA flood hazard areas, which are the layers that I have available here.

Okay, thank you.

Um we had other questions up here.

Um, I just want to clarify um there is an existing car washing area on the site and that has its own sewer drainage solution.

It's not draining into the creek or into the watershed directly, is it?

The purpose of the bioswale is not to replace runoff from the car wash that would otherwise just go into the groundwater.

You are correct there.

The purpose of the bioswale is because they're adding more impervious surface.

So any chemicals that that are on there on the asphalt from whatever other activities um or any spillover from the car wash would go into the bioretention pond.

But but it's it's not designed to replace the sewer function that should be working with the car wash today.

No, it is not.

Right.

Thank you.

Just want to clarify that.

Yes, Commissioner Del Negro.

Um I know there's no water source on that side of the property, is that correct from what I read originally?

Um they're not putting water inside the facility itself.

No, they're not expanding the water usage.

So they're not gonna have any way to wash these units over time or other than bring like a truck or a pressure washer system of some type.

Umits do get dirty over time.

I've had storage units.

The applicant confirms that they would have to bring water in to wash the units.

Um second thing I question is is um the width of these driveways is very narrow compared to other public storage spaces I've been in.

I know that the one I've used has a 22-foot wide space between rows and another one with a single-lane one having 14 linear feet.

So these are very narrow between spaces.

It seems like maximizing the amount of units per square footage was the objective.

Um it is denser than other storage units I've seen before as well.

Um what was the target of what of trying to get it as narrow?

Is that the purpose?

Is I guess are we at the point where we're talking to the candidate directly or just to say so after we've mixed?

Maybe the applicant could come to the microphone again.

I think we've already kind of gotten to the point where to the chair.

Is that acceptable?

Uh that's fine.

Okay.

And these are very narrow.

I'm a little worried about about the narrowness of trying to get in and out of those spots.

Oh, yes, I see.

Uh well, the objective was to maximize the efficiency of the property so it could uh it could be feasible to bring this to the community.

Uh in the very back corner, I think it's numbered unit number 58, 57, 56 on the map.

The ones that are on the corner.

There's kind of an alcove there.

I'm assuming that's an alcove because you couldn't turn any containers to maximize the number of units per space.

Uh that's uh because the the property line the setback from the residential R not sure the R value of that residential, but um is 20 feet, and then uh further up is five feet from the commercial and then five feet from commercial and then five feet from industrial.

I guess the one issue I have is you've now created sort of an alcove for people to hide and things not to be seen as easily.

Um I'm not a very big fan of the alcove um in design.

Um I'd encourage you to at least eliminate one of the units in that corner, just to also give more turnaround space in the corner.

Um would you consider that?

Uh yeah, if if uh if the city is is okay with us, you know, touching in that little 20-foot uh setback line just a little bit, then we would we would just continue on that row.

Alternatively you could eliminate one unit at least to still re stay within.

Yeah, yeah.

It also gives the corner a turnaround space, so if you're backing out of that far end, there's at least more area in which to make the corner to not clip in the last unit on the end.

I mean, just the design, I know you're maximizing space, but it doesn't make sense from a utility perspective to the public, and it creates a dangerous alcove in my opinion.

The the property will also have uh multiple uh security cameras that are fed to uh a service with with uh you know monitoring and all that difference.

Um which will not be point at any other properties, but but the storage facility.

So security will definitely be taken care of um in that regard.

Okay.

Um the other questions I have.

I mean, obviously this will have an impact on your other business on site.

I know that there's another business there, obviously croaching towards the body shop that's present.

Um what are the impacts on your existing business?

Does this have?

Um on the body shop?

Yeah.

Uh I've been working with with Gary.

Um he's been a long time tenant of uh my family, so uh yeah, we've been working together to to make sure he still has everything for to continue on his business as he has been doing it.

And he is he's looking into you know his his future, so we we've been working together uh quite well, I think.

And I believe so as well.

I'm in a car culture myself.

I own a couple hot rods.

I know the importance of having a body shop on the side of the mountain.

You know, it's one of our last ones left.

Um obviously we also have you know things like uh the dream machines coming up in a couple weeks here.

Um I'd hate to see a body shop, the last body shop leave town and now have to go over the mountain for it again with everything else.

That's my that's my grandpa's started a body shop, so that'd be the worst thing for me too, to see that name not there when some people are driving over the hill.

I know that there's some equipment there, power, I think some other stuff.

I see some equipment back there that's gonna have to be moved.

Uh yeah, he has an air compressor uh air compressor uh sheds.

Um I don't think we're gonna need to move it because we have those five foot setbacks, and I've uh done the measurements right there, so uh it's existing.

We're gonna uh I'll spruce it up a bit.

Okay.

But um so the impact I'm also concerned about is visualization of all the wrecked cars and all the car parts and stuff.

I mean, I know that I've been on that lot many times in my life.

Um a lot of that stuff sits in the back corner back there, and you're gonna lose that space.

So a lot of the wrecked cars, the cars that are currently undergoing are gonna be pushed forward towards the street more and more visible.

Um that's an impact towards visualization on the on the lot for current use.

Yeah, well, we're we're still working on the the best layout of parking and and his uh uh functionality of of the property, you know, as he's been using it and as you would like to use it in the future, or or whoever you know would like to take over the business there.

And um yeah, so that's one thing that we're going to be uh we haven't nailed down hard is a secure fencing for him and his uh uh cars that he's working on and I'd like to not have to see as many you know cars as close to the street being pushed further towards what I'm asking.

You know, can we avoid having you know the cars that are currently under progress of being repaired up front against highway 92 or you know being pushed forward?

Uh because most of the time right now they're kind of in the area between units 15 and 10, 98.

They store them kind of on that side.

Yeah, yeah.

Um well at the moment the plan is to put the storage facility in the back, and he will have secured uh lock up in the front.

No, so um on that map.

As as it is that um where highway 92 is, then there's a uh fairly uh deep slope.

Um maybe goes up to eight feet and then down to nothing.

So it yeah, it's that's something to work on.

Yeah, you have a challenge here.

You know, I see there's not much place else to put those cars and those projects that are currently in in work, so they're not now generating a new issue for public viewing.

Um hopefully we can we can make uh with your guys' suggestion of the landscaping plan.

We can make a nice beautiful corridor, you know.

Um as you're going down 92 and you're not because otherwise you get everybody just be looking at the same same old parking lot anyways.

Sure.

Okay.

Um business.

Uh I appreciate your time.

I actually have just a question for Leslie.

Um benefits to the city as far as this type of business.

Does it create income tax or any major tax benefit for the city?

Uh parking, uh the uh storage units.

Um business license and and yes, tax.

They are taxed and taxed for city income as far as use tax or like well there'll be development fees.

Okay.

Um business taxes.

I'm the impression that that storage units don't actually generate tax revenues for cities.

Oh that's news to me.

I read online, it's just that it's not a benefit to the city.

Um obviously the auto shop does generate benefit to the city financially, and I'd hate to see obviously I understand it's a historical thing, and I appreciate that your intent is to keep it going.

But in the long term, obviously I'd like to see a business that's generating revenue for the city be impacted by a new project where you may not get revenue.

I'm just looking that up.

Uh while you're um considering that um that you I'll let you finish that first.

I'll let her finish first.

Sorry, right now.

There is a member of the public who may be an expert as he operates storage units in town who's in the back that city staff could call upon the tournament if it uh generates sales tax and other taxes.

There's no sales tax on that was Bob K saying there is no sales tax.

Okay, being K.

B and K motors.

Yeah, thank you very much.

And so I guess the next question I had is staffing.

This is gonna generate I I know there's some building up front.

Is that a intended to be a permanently staffed office during working hours or it's uh come and go and get in out, get out with a uh lock uh uh code.

Is there a full-time employee coming that's gonna be there?

Sorry to bring you back up, but that's one thing that uh we're still looking into the facility is supposed to be as streetlined as possible.

Obviously, operating head costs for employee.

It's not generating a new employment as far as a new person on site, is what you're saying.

It's not generating a new job on site um that you that you know of yet, or you just haven't planned for the business part of that.

No, I mean originally I I have been liking to stab something there, but uh as well storage facilities around here 98% occupied for a long, long time.

Um sales office doesn't need it.

Yeah, gotcha.

Well I'm probably I'm also kind of curious about whether this is gonna be job generating.

Is there a new job here coming on site and for a little while?

Okay.

Great, thank you.

Okay, done.

That's it for me.

Um I had one other thing, Leslie.

Um maybe I missed it in the staff report since this is downtown corridor view and um um gateway view.

I wondered why there wasn't images, why there are no images in the staff report.

Did I miss them of what this will look like from or what it looks like now, even from 92 or from Main Street?

That's not in there, right?

No.

Okay.

No.

Okay, thanks.

The last question I have is the fire department has reviewed these plans and is they're satisfied that this meets their requirements.

The fire department reviewed them twice.

Um they reviewed them when we first got them, and then um there was a redesign and they reviewed them again and they approved them.

So the project before us has been reviewed and approved, and it satisfies all the requirements of the fire department with respect to turnaround.

Yes, it does.

Very good.

Um if that's all the clarifying questions, I'm gonna open this up for public comment.

So um is there anyone online or in person who wants to speak about this project?

Because I don't have a green card.

I think we had some people that showed up late that would like to speak.

What's your name?

Um, we can't read the case.

Is that on?

Yeah.

Is it on?

Let me see.

I don't think it's on.

Okay, where your mic is on shot.

Is it all?

Hello?

Uh better.

My name's Mary Jane Brusher, and I'm a resident of Cypress Cove, and I just have a few questions.

Um I noticed going over the packet that the sound study was done with the old plans.

And I just wonder if because we do hear curling and reds now and then, Eric, please come to the you know, the office or whatever.

Is there gonna be another sound study done in comparison to how it was done before?

That's one.

Um another thing, I was wondering about the color of the units.

Um there hasn't been anything about that.

But what we saw on the uh website about the product, it was white with blue lids.

We don't live in Greece, and it wouldn't blend in with the environment.

Did it go out?

Check, check.

Oh, that's okay.

Thank you.

Um I was wondering about the retaining wall.

If I'm correct, you can walk from the restaurant parking lot into curling and reds.

Will the retaining wall go from around the whole complex?

Um how high will it be and how will it um be landscaped?

Thank you.

Um are there any other members of the public who uh have questions or would like to speak?

Looks like we had do you have one?

That's okay.

Is I think it's on.

So it should just be.

Yeah.

So one thing um it's hard for me to see.

Oh, see if this is on for you, sorry.

Okay.

So one thing it's hard for me to see there is a representation that you can see on Google Earth of the trees that are on the border.

Um I I didn't hear in this, and I didn't see if those are gonna be preserved or not.

Can you tell me your name, please?

Oh, I'm sorry.

It's okay.

Beth Squires, uh resident here in Half Moon Bay.

Thank you.

Um so the question is uh about the trees on the border.

Do we is there well we'll we'll get to it.

But it this is so this is public comment, so you make whatever comments you want, and then we'll make sure we address them.

One of the reasons um you know I know that that area is used uh currently for um I know this because I had an auto rack once and it was towed to that area, and I know that the county I think via curly reds, you know helps with that area sometimes.

So I'm just wondering what the plan is so that that kind of service can still be provided in Half Moon Bay, because I think it's an important, you know, couldn't get to Pacifica to do that, right?

And you know, over the hill, right?

So um I just uh I'm a little concerned about the impact of that.

I'm a little concerned.

Um my mother-in-law live near a storage facility, and it you know, there are always crime issues to be honest with people coming in and out.

Um I I can't speak to that, but that seems like um a concern.

And the other thing is the traffic coming off of and going into Highway One seems like it would be a lot more usage uh for people coming into to on a more regular basis to go into that area or not.

I I it just seems like we're creating more traffic, just like we don't have enough of it.

I guess that's the last of my comment.

Thank you.

Um is there anybody else who would like to speak from the public in person or online?

I am seeing none.

I'm gonna close public comment.

And we can bring it back to the commission.

Who would like to start?

Commissioner Reddick.

Thank you.

Um I I asked earlier about the lighting.

I guess that's my only real concern is um what are the plans for the lighting?

How's that gonna affect the neighbors around there?

I I I apologize I don't know what the lighting is today or how it how it's likely to change for the parking lot and the storage units.

I heard you mention solar activated or mo or possibly motion activated lights, but if you wouldn't mind uh walking me through that again one more time, just so I know exactly what the plan is.

I'd appreciate it.

You're gonna you're getting your steps in tonight.

I would appreciate the help.

Is it not working?

It's it's on now.

You can just you just have to hold it.

Or you can put it on there, yeah.

It doesn't it doesn't fit in the phone.

Okay.

Yeah.

But it has to be turned on.

Is it but you have to talk you have to like choke on it too.

Uh all right.

Uh so uh should I answer go with yours first?

Your question first.

Yes, please.

All right.

Um uh yeah, with the with the lighting, um like you said, their solar um their motion activated and also uh photo with a photo sensor.

So they'll be you know, at most uh they would be on from sundown to sun up or or just past sundown, but because with the motion sensor, it's uh really more of a security feature because the whole lot doesn't need to be lit up all night, and um uh currently there is uh I think two or three um kind of big uh hydrogen uh HPS lights around uh or maybe middle highlight um in the back to the uh parking lot currently um so and those those aren't uh dark sky or anything like that.

So we're not we're not gonna be making any more light than there currently is for for the residents or businesses near um yeah and and uh there's gonna be uh lights on in front of the units at a lower level, so they're not uh 20 feet in the air under about eight feet tall.

Yeah, and and uh there's gonna be uh lights on in front of the units at a lower level, so they're not uh 20 feet in the air and they're about eight feet tall.

Well thank you for that.

So if I understand it, the um the lighting within the storage unit area, that area is is closed to everybody after 7 p.m.

every day, so there would be no need for for lighting uh to be to be on permanently or triggered by motion in that area.

Uh well the uh the trigger by motion is uh to uh increase the security if need be.

Right.

Capture roof uh you know so the cameras can see it and then the cameras actually uh can talk or you know uh notify the police and uh notify me so I can check it out.

And in normal case, when there isn't an unauthorized person after hours, there's there's no lights in that area.

Yeah, there should be no lights in that area.

All right.

Thank you very much.

I don't know if the chair wants you to answer other questions or no, I think that was fine.

Thank you.

Thanks.

I actually have a distinction.

Clarify, is it gonna be a right hand turn only while leaving the parking leaving the facility?

Sure.

I wasn't exactly sure how to address that at this time.

Um what's clear at this time in the way the condition of approval reads is that there has to be a clear clear path of ingress and a clear path of egress.

I think a right turn only um would work there.

You'd have to you'd have to drive on highway 92 and make a U-turn um at Hilltop.

So um but that would be a legal U-turn.

Um I think that uh when we when we get the building permit, um we'll have the engineers look at or sorry, the signage permit.

We'll have the engineers look at that right turn.

So we're kinda a little early to understand what's gonna happen there.

Yeah.

Right.

So uh I'm not understanding.

I'm sorry.

So when you leave the storage facility, you're on 92 and you make a right turn on 92 and then you make you stop on the highway and make a U-turn at some point?

There's a left turn lane at hilltop.

So you would drive to Hilltop and make a U-turn.

But if you make a left turn out of that parking lot, you're turning you making a left turn into a existing left turn lane.

Yeah.

You're crossing a double yellow line into an existing left turn.

But that's true also if you're trying to make a left turn into the storage facility.

You'd have to go past the storage facility and make a U-turn and come back.

So you can only make a right turn into the storage facility.

Is that the R.

You are correct, but we can't control that.

Yeah.

But we could we can control how they leave the facility in a so that it's safe.

Does Am I making sense?

Yeah.

The only issue there too, though, is there's no U-turn down on Main Street.

Yeah.

There's no U-turn one?

On Main Street.

There's no U-turn on Main Street.

Um you can make a left and then make a U-turn later on and then make another right and then another right.

I would have loved to be able to turn it to Texaco, but you can't.

You can make a U-turn on Highway One.

What?

Can't you?

No.

Oh, uh oh.

Um yes, I think you can go all the way down on one and make the So we're in discussion now?

We are in discussion.

Would you like to discuss?

Sure.

Um Andre I think it's important that we support local businesses.

Uh this is an area zoned for industrial use.

Uh it makes a good use of an area that is designated for business.

And um I think it uh the existing auto body shop provides an essential service to the community, and um regardless of whether or not it generates sales tax revenue for the city, um, it is an improvement on the property and will result in property tax increases.

It'll probably somehow benefit our community.

But you know, I've heard that there's high occupancy rates for storage units.

So I think it's it's something that's good for the community.

So in a general way, I'm very supportive of this project for for the benefits I see coming forward.

Um I'm not I'm not necessarily excited about trying to change the um the layout of some of the units.

I understand the feedback you had around like the little alcove area, but if the fire department has approved it, I don't really see a need to address um the project.

From reading the staff report, one of the neighbors uh raised the question of the trees.

So no heritage trees will be removed from the project.

And if that's wrong, I'm happy to have city that's correct.

I was gonna say I was happy to have city staff uh correct me.

None of the immediate trees in the areas will be impacted either.

So those are that's um uh certainly if if small trees or bushes are removed, then if it's not a heritage tree, there's not much recourse that we have.

Those aren't things that we would um deal with anyway.

Um I'm curious what your thoughts are on the retaining wall, because you really dug into that.

So I'd like to get feedback on that at some point.

Um the biggest concern I have is that this is um one, it is on a scenic corridor coming into half Moon Bay.

It's also on uh a prominent gateway that's been designated in our local coastal land use plan.

Um the G for the gateway in our map literally sits on the property that we're talking about.

Uh and currently um, you know, it's not a particularly attractive view today from the highway looking onto the property.

I'm a little disappointed that we didn't have a landscape plan in front of us today.

Um I know this is a relatively small project uh and it's an existing use, but I would have loved to have seen a landscaping plan that kind of addresses some of the concerns I have about um just you know, er and and I'm not making something up here.

This is actually an important part, it's like nine different policies around the gateway and around the scenic corridor that address any time there's new development, which this is.

We have an obligation to improve to maintain and improve the um the scenic quality of our community.

So this is an opportunity to do that, and I would have loved to have seen that before us.

I think the if we have a vigorous um landscaping plan that screens the property, I think a lot of the concerns you raised about looking at cars goes away.

I do think the idea of changing the orientation of the parking lot so that you see fewer cars when you have a you know a sidelong view out of your car window.

I think that could be helpful, but I'll leave that to the applicant to figure out the best arrangement for parking because I I certainly don't want to litigate how they park um for a service shop.

That's not not certain something in my skill set.

Um the sort of overall like look and feel, you know, this isn't a huge project, it's relatively low rise, it's lower than the industrial garage space next to it.

But it'd be good that it sort of have an integrated look.

So if the coloring can either blend in or complement what's ex already there, uh if it can be, you know, I saw bright yellow with white building, bright yellow sheds.

I saw uh white building with a bright blue top, and then you've got the gray and red coloring of uh curly and red's existing building.

So to me, this is a perfect opportunity as a condition of approval to take Leslie's suggestion and just pass back not just the landscaping um but the uh integrated feel of the building back to the architectural review committee for them to have a pass at it.

And you know, if they sign off on it, I'm comfortable with this project as is.

Um I I was concerned with the bioswale being used for the car wash.

If that's not the purpose of the bioswale, it's to take the runoff from the pervious surface.

Um I do think it's helpful to consider using a pervious surface for the car wash when there's or for the the storage area.

Uh there's benefits to us when we use those types of surfaces, but that may complicate the project at this point in time.

And I don't want to overcomplicate your project.

You've taken quite a while to get here, so but it is something that I'd be amenable to if the applicant and city engineer decided it made sense, I'd be supportive of it.

It's not a major change to traffic.

And I'm sure people already turn legally left going out of there, because that's I'm not gonna say I've ever turned left illegally across a double yellow line on 92, but I know that I've I've seen other people do it many times at great risk to life and safety.

So I'd curious what you guys think about forcing a right turn only lane out of there.

Certainly signage and striping and maybe rumble strips immediately across might be good things to add, but I don't even think we can control the rumble strips uh because that's Caltrans.

So I'll leave it at that.

Um how do how do people access curly and reds now?

They don't they don't make a right off of the highway, they go through that parking lot and and up, right?

No.

Or do they go right off the highway?

I'm thinking about the way I get there is I turn right off the highway.

And then when I left, I did make an illegal left turn.

Yeah.

Come and get me.

Clutching my pearls here.

Well, even if you do even if you do the right correct turn, the right turn, and then try to make a left, not even make a U-turn, but try to make a left somewhere else, you stop everybody behind you.

And that's that's how we get accidents on highway 92.

So it is an issue, but I guess it's you're saying it's a superfluous issue.

Uh superfluous, I don't know.

There is a left turn lane at hilltop.

Um, so you wouldn't be blocking traffic to make your left turn if you were to turn right out of there.

I recently tried to make that U-turn and could not make the turn itself and had to use the ingress into the um the home facilities that are there, the actual residencies, and then back back out.

It's not amenable to a U-turn.

Well, and it's too tight.

You're gonna be driving a U-shaped.

It's just too tight.

Even in my truck.

You're gonna drop your stuff off at the storage place.

Yeah, just driving a big truck and you're driving it for the first time ever.

And so that's uh it seems like a problem.

It is it is obviously very pro it's an existing problem.

It's not a new problem.

But it becomes worse with the size of the vehicles potentially going in and out.

I guess.

But I mean, but people um correct me if I'm wrong, but like you can cut across the parking lot to flying fish grill and then drive past all of Fano.

Is that true?

Yeah.

So like people if I was there, I would just drive past Olifano's and make an illegal turn on main street across slower.

Getting into that you can go right at flying fish grill.

And then you can get out.

So the size of vehicle maybe a little more strict of that practice.

But so we had a traffic study.

It's not like a significant impact.

We had a noise study, it's not a significant impact.

I don't think we re need to revisit the noise study.

I don't like the.

Well, I think the noise study was based on a 12-foot retaining wall, which is what was originally planned.

And so now it's a three to six-foot retaining wall.

And so there will be more noise.

Um that's the it's the back retaining wall that's the concern, not the two-side can retaining walls.

Those are eight feet and four feet, those are just along 92.

That's the one on the back side of it that they're concerned about.

I mean, people putting materials into their storage, and it's not the loudest thing in the world.

It's opening the door usually to them that's loud.

Opening shutting your doors to your units.

Well, yeah.

And yelling and I mean, in in the I mean, just having three rows of buildings and the massing will absorb the sound from the current curly and reds.

Yeah.

More than what's now there is open space.

Yeah.

I mean, uh to me.

I mean, those are all yes, uh I would say it would.

I think that the you know all the little things like the you know, there's a lot of things that add up, like all that impervious surface, all that stormwater runoff and where it's gonna go, because it's a lot more.

Um also the the just the sheer amount of fencing and retaining walls is quite a lot.

The main thing is really like when you leave Half Moon Bay, what you see now is curly and reds on the on the little hill, which is cute, which is you know great.

But if what you see is a sea of storage units, then it's not so great.

And I can't really tell if that's what you're gonna see, because no one's said anything about that.

No one's studied that, nobody's looked at it.

I kind of tried to look when I was driving by there, but I can't tell.

And the same thing when you're gatewaying into Half Moon Bay itself, and on the left, you're gonna have again like a sea of storage units.

So that's my big and also when you're coming into night coming into Halfman Bay on 92 or leaving 92 along Main Street.

That's what I mean, it is what you see.

I agree with you.

Is that what you want to see?

Is what you want to see 68 storage units.

Um I don't know that that's that that's what we want to see.

And there is uh, as you say, stipulation in the uh land use plan that says and the gateway plan that says it's a scenic gateway, and that's not scenic.

So you know, that that seems to be an issue that isn't really addressed in the in the staff report.

I will also point out that the wreck cars no longer being at the back of the lot hidden and now being out front is going to be an ISOR issue.

It is an impact beyond just the storage units, too.

And where are they going to store those facilities, those cars, other than right up near the street?

And there's no solution offered yet.

Well, I Chair Gorn, if I may.

Yes, Commissioner Redick.

I uh you know, to some extent the concept of the of the scenic gateways to me is an aspirational thing that over the long term Half Moon Bay can work towards.

But the uh I'm challenged to think of anything existing in in any of our gateways that uh that uh you know delivers the kind of scenic value that uh that we would aspire to.

The um if and uh as we've talked about, the zoning here supports this kind of use.

If if indeed the uh landscape plan can provide a little bit of uh shielding, which I'm looking at Google Earth now and I'm seeing there's a good opportunity for that, and there's very little of it on either side of Highway 92 in the in the so-called gateway zone.

So I think I think that would be taking a a realistic and practical and big step towards what we aspire to with this.

Okay.

I'd hate to see us uh disregard what the place is zoned for out of uh overly uh overly uh uh acute concerns about the scenic value.

So I'm not arguing it.

I I do think that just like the curly and reds in that area is zoned for commercial, so is that area zoned for as a scenic gateway.

So they don't always go together.

So we need a plan.

We don't have a landscape plan.

We don't I mean, the sound study, I don't know if we really need a new sound study.

Um the crime issues haven't really been proven to me, although we do have a lot of fencing around there to try to keep people out.

Um I just I haven't really seen in the staff report anything that addresses those issues, the scenic gateway issue, the um the corridor issue, the you know, there's the landscaping plan.

I don't I um I just don't see it.

So that I feel like it's missing.

That's that's the main thing, I guess.

Remind me, what was facing the parking lot in the back of the storage units?

Is that just the storage unit facing, or is there a fence on there's a fence on that?

No, it's a retaining wall.

Retaining wall there's a between the storage unit and um curlean reds.

Uh no.

No, it's just the back of the units facing.

You know, there's there it looks like there's two storage sheds that in the image are painted yellow, and there's some uh minimal landscaping on the bioswale area.

And then you've got the white wall face of the and then you see eleven units are what appear, or the back wall of 11 units, you're gonna see a wall because there's no opening.

So it's just a wall that that covers eleven of the whatever 14 units that would be facing you.

There's an opportunity to beautify those at least to be publicly.

You could put a mural there.

Yeah.

Or something.

I think I think AAC needs to see this first.

I mean, I kind of feel like they need to take a look at it and see if it can fit the scenic corridor thing, the whole scenic gateway, if they can make if they can come up with a plan, landscaping plan that makes sense for that area.

I kind of feel there's a little bit more work to be done to get the landscaping plan together, obviously.

Deal with the street ingress and egress.

Um I feel like there's it's just some things that are not quite finally done here in preparation for this to be, you know, yeah.

I don't know if the if there can be egress, ingress and egress um alongside curly and reds, or or you know, you'd have to cut out some storage units to do it.

It's also a better plan.

It could also get them an opportunity to also come up with a solution for the where the right cars are gonna be.

Well, and also the 12 feet wide.

I mean, I know fire department signed off, but I've driven those trucks.

I drove I drove, you know, the the goodwill truck.

It could create more business working on axles.

I I'm not I'm not sure.

I I agree with you that it seems a little tight, but you know, if if this works for them commercially and the fire department signed off on it, I don't want to redesign their project from the dais.

If they would if we determine that it doesn't conform for a reason that I'm unaware of, okay.

But to me I think that that that one I'm not really worried about.

Um I I I I'd also there's an existing use into the lot.

The issues of e ingress and egress are existent.

It's not a material impact on the traffic that's worthy of a mitigation.

So we are not obligated to make it a right turn only.

So the curly and reds is limited amount of egress and ingress.

So it's a lot more.

I mean, it won't be maybe after all the units are filled, maybe it won't be as impactful.

But filling those units would be.

So um just one last thing, and that's the retaining walls.

Yeah.

So we've all got retaining walls.

And the reason we all have retaining walls um is to keep out both the water and the dirt.

And um my experience with retaining walls is that they fail.

Um they last about you know, 10 years.

If they're I mean you would know better than me, but I have a concern that that much retaining wall that's holding back eight feet on one side and six feet on another, and that runs for I can't remember how many linear feet, but it's a lot of linear feet.

That those um given the amount of rainfall we have, and given the rainfall that comes down the hill towards that place, um and and actually the anyway.

Given that amount of water going toward that area, I think that's you might want to.

I it seems incomplete to me.

Might want to rethink it.

I don't know how to how to fix all that.

I'm I mean you have to have the retaining walls to keep that out, but maybe you need them stronger.

I'm not sure.

But uh it raises a big concern for me.

Okay.

Um I think that's a fair question.

I mean, with a retaining wall, there has to be an engineering study.

Um there has to be some geotechnical work.

Um does I mean, presumably any geotechnical work would be reviewed by the city engineer and there'd be a submission.

There's it's part of the process, correct?

Well, and the engineer would would tell us if it's actually in a floodplain or not.

Yes.

I'm looking at the comments that they gave us initially.

So the construction plans when they're submitted will be reviewed by the engineers again, and that's when they will look more closely at the retaining walls.

And whatever the engineering standards the city and county have for retaining walls, we will our engineering staff will Dale and company will make sure that it conforms.

Absolutely.

Okay.

So the Chair.

Commissioner Del Negro.

The way I'm seeing this is, you know, it's a it's a great idea to have something here.

Obviously, it's an improvement.

I definitely agree with that.

It seems like they're trying to shove as much into the space as possible.

So you get in narrow corridors, you're losing the parkings where the wrecked cars used to be.

It is impacting the existing business to a degree.

If that first row wasn't there, I wouldn't have a second guess at this.

It would just be done for me.

I would just say, hey, you know what, you spaced them out a little bit further, but you also didn't press everything up against towards the street as possible.

Still place to put the facilities wreck cars.

And to me that that would have been a more palatable uh proposal here, just because the attempt to try and get as much in as possible.

Um it's having some impacts, I think go beyond just adding a facility that could have been an easy pass for me.

Um also it would be a little further away from the street too.

So a little maybe a little less visual impact of the buildings.

But I definitely would like to see at least the white backing of these things to be blended in to curlian reds if possible, paint-wise.

Um that's kind of where I stand after our discussion so far.

Anyone else?

Okay.

Vice Chair Hernandez.

Umenable, I'd like to make a motion.

I would like to make a motion to approve the project before us with the following conditions.

Uh one, a landscaping plan be submitted and provided for review by the architectural review committee.

Um upon their majority approval.

Um that the project so and it would require the majority approval of the architectural advisory committee.

If it doesn't have the majority approval, it get kicked up back to us for final review.

Um I'd like to uh recommend that the architectural review committee also uh look at the integrated feel, the the color of the building as proposed, and provide, you know, feedback uh it would also be part of the approval process.

Um I heavily rec highly recommend that the primary mitigation is screening the property um with landscaping versus trying to make it look like historic main street.

You know, that's my my mark that's my motion.

Are there any other and also that we add the findings um that this is in the gateway area of Half Moon Bay, and there's a couple of policies that naturally will fall into that.

And the reason I'll I'll pause there for a second.

The reason for that is uh those policies support stronger landscaping than our regular town boulevard.

But I guess I don't understand how we can approve it if it hasn't if we don't have AAC look at it first.

It seems like that's backwards.

Like AAC, usually AAC looks at all our projects, they have some input, they change things, then we get it.

And in this case, we're approving something that we're saying, well, just trust us will kind of make it work.

Well, I mean, I have confidence.

I mean, Steve Kakucci is a landscape architect.

Um he's got 40 years of professional experience.

Linda Ponsini is one of the most experienced architects in the community.

No, I mean I don't say I trust them.

I trust them is that they see it first.

I I trust them to make the determination.

I don't I mean, my motion is that I trust them to make the determination.

I don't think we need to see it again.

If you feel strongly, you know, we can vote on the motion, and if it fails, we can add a condition to bring it back.

I I'd like to second the motion so we can continue to discuss it.

Mr.

Chairman, may I uh Commissioner Randall?

I could support the motion, and I could support the project, Mr.

Chairman.

And so um I don't see this project the same way I think that my colleagues do on this panel.

That's why I haven't said much.

But I will support the project with or without the landscape plan.

The reason is when you drive up, uh I can't remember ever seeing a building there because you're focused in on traffic at that point.

Traffic is merging trucks, buses, whatever, if depending on what lane you're in, you want to you want to move over.

And so uh it wasn't until recently that I figured out when I went over to the flying fish.

I said, what's that building over there?

And I found out that there was a building there and it's some kind of mechanic shop or something, and I said, Oh, that's interesting.

I've never driving up towards the hills on 92, I never noticed that.

I noticed flying fish, but I didn't notice that because it's tucked tucked in, tucked tucked back.

So I'm not worried about a lot of the things that were discussed tonight.

Landscaping would help, it always helps, you know, particularly in a in a nice corridor area.

But uh even that I don't think will get a lot of play when you're driving a car and trying to merge at the same time.

So, Mr.

Chairman, I would just say that um I would like to move on.

I like the project.

I think uh as fellow commissioners said, that we need kind of commerce in the city and all of the things that come along with it.

I think once the units are filled up, it's a matter of not 68 cars showing up every day.

It's a matter of maybe one or two a day or maybe one or two a week, depending on what the needs are of the people who are using the facility.

So and there is another entrance that I use going through the flying fish all the time, and that's right behind the Texaco, that little alleyway that comes up, and you can go in both directions from there.

And so people will find their own way, in my opinion, uh, from that facility.

So with that, Mr.

Chairman, I would just uh encourage us to move on.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Uh Chair Gorn.

I I hold on, I I can't remember in your motion.

So did you talk about the impervious surface?

I did not.

Um I mean, I I'm I don't want to make a change to support a per impervious surface, but I would be supportive of the applicant changing an impervious surface at their discretion.

Right.

I don't think that's something AAC can look at too.

But I I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't open up their project because I think that it um it there's a if our city attorney was here, there's a legal reason I think that we don't want to go into on making a change like that.

So and the and did your motion address the stormwater runoff?

Not so much the car wash washing into the bioswale, but all that stormwater.

I'm under the impression that the if we put a bio swale in, that we can open this up for question, but I'm under the impression that if we have a bioswale there, it's been sized for the property to mitigate the runoff.

So there's uh an engineering standard that it should conform to.

Well, but so uh one of the things that the city was going to look into was um having an engineer sign off on the fact that it's maybe in a floodplain, we don't know.

Um increased amount of water on these soldier pile retaining walls.

Um we were going to look at it mostly the per oh and the new sound study.

I don't think we I don't think we need it.

I don't think we need that.

Um I I uh let me I think maybe it's worthwhile to just ask um our development director.

Um just to confirm a bioswale installed in this location will be designed to catch the water for the amount of it pervious surface that's been created.

The city engineer has looked at the topography of the site and understands the way that water will move on the site and recommended the bioretention pond where it is now and sized the way it is.

Thank you.

Great.

And so I don't know anything else.

I have one clarification to Rick's proposal.

Rick, when you said the landscaping plan earlier, we intimately tied like landscaping discussion happened about the whole like trying to do something for the rec car to try and create some type of screen or visual limitation to it.

Was that part of what you were getting at?

Is that they would have that as an objective, a landscaping plan to mediate that?

So my intention, and I would like to see if we can get consensus around this, is that um to the extent that it's practical, I would like to see a landscape plan that screens the parking lot and the storage areas.

Um I uh also heard that there's a requirement that the signage that's going to go in.

We saw a lot of examples of signage in the staff report, that signage is also going to be approved by AAC.

So no matter what, this project is going to go back to AAC.

But yeah, the intention is to, as much as practically feasible to screen um the property further than it already is to make the utility boxes go away.

They're already painted go away green, but if we could just screen them all together, that'd be great, and potentially replace the broken fencing that goes along the side of the property.

Um if there's anything that can be done on the west edge of the property to again add some landscaping elements there, uh that would certainly contribute to the gateway feel that I think we're striving for.

It is an ideal, certainly not a standard we've lived up to.

That's my intention.

Is that well, I guess you know, if you had if we had said with there that the landscaping plan is designed to mitigate the ability to visualize the impact of moving wrecked vehicles to the front.

I have no problem with that.

I think it'd be a great that is the intention.

Okay.

As long as explicitly when it goes to the architectural advisory committee, that is their objective that they're working with.

I think city staff can capture that intent.

Can you capture that intent, Leslie?

Yes.

Okay.

And I think it's a great uh modification.

So I I I don't think there are any changes then to the motion I've put forward.

I think we can have a vote.

Commissioner Rems.

Yes.

Commissioner Reddock?

Yes.

Commissioner Dol Negro?

Yes.

Vice Chair Hernandez?

Yes.

And Chair Gorn.

Yes, please.

Motion approved with conditions 5-0.

And we are up for director's report.

Congratulations.

This is a little irregular, but I wanted to before we voted, I intended to thank Vice Chair Hernandez for his uh approach to that motion.

I think that in this case, we have the experience with staff being able to work with the architectural advisory committee uh in a way that we can trust a good outcome coming out of their uh scrutiny of the landscaping options.

So that's a good practical motion that will move us ahead with minim minimal delay.

And I would like to just to thank you for that um amend uh just uh before we clip move on from this item.

In the future, I think as we have projects that are in the gateway, even if they're minimal projects, if it requires a CDP.

My opinion, and we're not this isn't an item on the agenda, but my opinion is that the policies around gateway need to be put into effect around development.

So screening landscaping, improving the visual corridor is important, and I would love if for future projects, I would want to see the landscaping plan at the planning commission.

That would be my preferred outcome in the future.

For sure.

May uh may I just add, Mr.

Chairman, that uh I too, uh following on uh uh Commissioner Ruddicks uh want to thank Commissioner Hernandez uh for a reasonable, a reasonable uh request with the landscape plan.

Thank you.

The director's report, please.

Uh yeah.

Um we haven't issued any permits since two weeks ago.

So uh there's no permits to um report out.

We did have an architectural advisory committee meeting last week.

Uh the committee looked at the downtown banner program, which will be coming to you um sometime in April.

So that that program is that program is meant to have banners on posts uh along Main Street that will be changed out for different events.

And it's something that the um downtown business association has really been pressing for.

Um they also looked at all of the outdoor living, which is at 429 to sort of 431 Main Street.

So there's a new pottery store there, and the space next to it is being converted to an outdoor sort of garden space.

So they looked at that as well.

Um and in other news, um, the consultant contract for the implementation plan update will go to council on April 7th.

So that has um that's always a heavy lift when you're getting an RFP out there.

So it's nice to have it done.

And um we ended up with a fantastic consultant who has a lot of experience with implementation plans in the coastal zone.

So we're very happy with that.

Her name is uh Martha Miller, and she owns Miller Planning Associates.

That's it for my report.

And you have a new planner.

You have to mention that oh yes, and our new planner started on Monday.

Um his name is Paul Kyla Heinsey.

Hinsey, excuse me.

Um we also have a new planner starting on Monday, and her name is Ruby Zaldondo.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Yeah, um, it's just been Scott and I for a little while now, and uh we are completely buried.

So we're thrilled.

You said there's for the pottery um location behind the bike shop there.

Um is that have the one that has the fence that's upside down on it after they've cleared all the trees and is still abiding, the abiding star on Main Street.

Oh, okay.

It's on Main Street, yeah, across from Kernia.

Other bike shop across town.

And I will bring it back up to the planning commission for any kind of planning commission communications if anyone has anything that they would like to talk about.

I have two communications.

One is promotion of the um ongoing play at the high school.

There's currently um a play this coming weekend on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, Friday, Saturday at 7 p.m., Sunday at 2 p.m.

And they're doing Hades Town, which is a full musical, uh which is a lot of fun to watch kids pull off a full musical, and they do a fantastic job.

I saw last week.

I'd highly recommend going.

And it's only like $15 a person, $10 for uh seniors.

Uh the second one is we do also have the dream machines coming up, um, people registering for it already, but it's April 26th.

Anyone else?

Mr.

Chairman, I just want to report that I uh I attended the planning commissioner's academy in Anaheim on March 10th through the 13th.

I thoroughly enjoyed myself.

I heard a lot of things that I didn't expect.

Uh one being that they made an announcement that I still can't wrap my head around it, that there was 300 bills passed last year concerning building and planning, and that most of them have not my words, robbed the planning commissioners of their authority to control projects.

Which which didn't set well with a lot of the people, a lot of the attendees I may have.

And so uh that was my biggest takeaway.

Uh I would like to ask staff the I took a mandatory class, I think it was on harassment.

I can't remember exactly, but they said I would get a certificate.

It was like a two or three hour seminar that I had to go to.

But I didn't know who the certificate was gonna go to, so I'm just giving you a heads up.

If you get it, that's that's that's what it's about, because I haven't got anything yet.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

I have one.

I'll entertain any questions you have about that uh Academy if if if I can answer.

I'm happy to grab a cup of coffee with you and talk about it.

But you you you clearly passed the uh the nerd test if you like your planning commission academy.

So welcome to the club.

Appreciate it.

I will add uh we'll add one more thing if I may, Mr.

Chairman.

Next year it's gonna be in Monterey.

That's driving distance, and I would be happy to go on behalf of the planning commission if if you so chose me to go.

I like Monterey and it's a nice drive down the coast and so on.

Yeah.

Where goes where was it on the It was in Anaheim?

And so uh it wasn't wasn't too bad.

I I have a home in in Irvine, and so uh I got to see my wife and son for the weekend after the event.

And we saved a few dollars by them picking me up at the airport and driving me to the event and picking me up and leaving so we saved a few dollars there, and I got some discounts on parking at SFO because I'm a city employee, so we get a real good rate on parking there.

So I didn't have to spend a hundred dollars on Uber or anything.

So I won't bore you with the rest of the details.

But uh thank you.

Nice chair Hernandez.

Hey, tomorrow there is a ribbon cutting at the Creekside Development from 4 to 7 p.m.

This is the project we approved that's right next to Shoreline Station.

Uh 12 12 units of housing and um four affordable units.

So um and it's I got a chance to look at the property.

It's actually they've done a pretty good job there.

So worth checking out, and they're giving some tours of some of the homes and uh there'll be some snacks and beverages for people.

Sorry, it's Thursday, not tomorrow.

Um do we have any motion to adjourn?

I'll make a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting.

All in favor, you can say yes.

Yes, yes, I hear no opposed.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you.