Show that never ends.

This is the Halfman Bay Planning Commission for Tuesday, May twenty sixth.

Um Bridget, do you want to take us through the protocols?

Yes.

Um, good evening, and welcome to our May twenty sixth, twenty twenty six meeting.

Um we are videoing this on channel twenty seven along with the PCT's website.

We do have interpretation tonight.

Um, for those of the in the audience and on Zoom.

Um, I think that's all I have for tonight.

Commissioner Reddick.

I'm here.

Commissioner Del Negro.

Here, Commissioner Rems.

Vice Chair Hernandez is absent.

This evening and Chair Gorn.

I am here.

We have four commissioners present this evening.

For four fourteen and five twelve.

Um, I don't have my computer up, so I can't.

Uh, I need to see if we can take a vote, given that Rick is not here.

Um, we're gonna have to wait.

We did not have Commissioner Del Negro or Gorn, um, at the fourteenth meeting.

Um now that Hernandez is not here this evening.

So what are you doing?

And the 12th, May 12th.

May 12th, we should.

I think the only person that was absent was Commissioner.

Um Redick, I believe.

I'll double check here.

Yes, we have a quorum.

We have at least three.

Great.

I left her.

I left early.

Should I abstain?

What should I do?

Um uh commissioner Rems was absent for the second part of the meeting.

Yeah, that's a little tricky.

So we can hold off.

Yeah, that's fine.

We can um we can hold off if anyone has any think there's a reason to hold off, is there?

And we have three that we can.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's substantial.

Does he need to?

I don't think he I don't think he needs to.

Yeah, we have enough.

Yeah, I think we can.

Um, so does anybody have any comments or questions about um May 20?

The minutes for May 12th, 2026.

Uh yeah, there were uh Bridget.

The uh thing the issue I pointed out to you.

Has that been fixed?

Yes.

Um I have it was on the second page.

It was the first motion that failed.

I had accidentally typed in Commissioner Reddick's name instead of Gorn, so I I went ahead and corrected that on the website and on the official uh minutes.

So it does have the correct um Hernandez Gorn and Rems who had done that.

So thank you.

I didn't notice that one.

Um, so seeing no other comments, does anyone have a motion?

Yes, I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from May 12th.

I'll second.

Um all in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Anyone opposed?

I was absent, so I won't.

Oh okay, I got you.

That's what you want second.

So we have approval of that one.

Thank you.

And we'll postpone the next one for the next meeting.

Great, thank you.

Um I wanted to uh take a second to see if anyone had uh anything to talk about that was not on this agenda.

This is a chance for anyone online or in person to address planning commission on something that's not on the agenda tonight.

Do we see anyone like that?

Now is the time.

Raise your hand online.

I am seeing none.

Yeah, same.

So we will um not open public comment and we'll move on to our first item, which is a sign permit for a permanent mural uh 507 perissima.

Thank you.

Paul, that is yours.

Yes.

Thank you.

And uh good evening, Chair and Commissioners.

So this first item or this first public hearing item uh before you tonight is a signed permit request for a permanent mural at 507 Prism Street, identified as file number PVP 26 uh 032.

So the product is located at 507 personal street within the commercial downtown zoning district.

Properties owned and operated by ALUS, and the request is specifically for approval of a permanent mural under the city's sign code.

And the parameters of planning commission's review tonight is to evaluate the location, visibility, and site compatibility of the project.

Um the artistic merit and design of the mural are not part of review.

The subject site is approximately 11,250 square feet, includes an existing building and two surface parking areas.

A key feature is the blank west facing wall that fronts of Persimer Street.

This is where the mural is proposed, and it will be visible from public right of way.

So the proposal is to paint a permanent mural on the west facing facade of the existing building.

The mural includes the phrase Halfman Bay and is an artistic installation.

The installation is expected to take about two weeks.

And an encodment permit from public works will be required for all work in the public right of way.

Shown here is the full mural design, which will wrap around the side of the building on Persimmer Street.

And the mural is intended to enhance the visual character of the building and the surrounding streetscape.

It would replace a blank wall with artwork that adds color and visual interest.

And overall is intended to contribute positively to the experience along Persimus Street.

Showing here is an oblique rendering of the mural where it wraps around to the rear parking lot.

Under the city's sign code, a murals require approval by planning commission.

And the proposal does meet all applicable standards, including size limitations relative to wall area.

The mural does not include commercial advertising and is purely artistic.

And in terms of environmental review, staff has determined that the project is categorically exempt from CEQA as it falls under section 15301, which applies to existing structures where no significant environmental impacts are anticipated.

So in conclusion, staff recommends that the Commission approve PDP 26-032 for the sign permit to allow the permanent mural at 507 Prisima.

Subject to the conditions of approval, and also determine that the project is categorically exempt from CEQA per section 15301.

I'm available for any questions, and I believe the I believe a project representative is also available in person as well.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Kaylanzi.

Um I'm gonna bring it back up here for clarifying questions.

Does anyone have a question about this mural?

I have two questions.

Um Commissioner Del Negro.

Um, do you know if the applicant is planning on putting a clear coat to protect it from graffiti afterwards?

I mean it seems like a beautiful mural.

Um over time these things do get tagged and modified.

Yes, so based on the the project plans and information provided, there will be two coats of transparent protective sealer to ensure that it lasts over time.

Great.

And um, is there any lighting that's gonna go onto this mural as well?

No additional lighting.

There is existing lighting on that face of the building, but no additional lighting, it's just the mural.

All right, thank you.

Are there any other questions from the commission?

Um, I'm gonna open up to public comment, um, both online and in person.

You can either um come up to the podium here or um raise your hand online if you would like to talk about this.

I am seeing none.

So we will not open public comment and we open it up to um planning commissioners if you have any kind of uh to discuss it.

Commissioner Reddock.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh it it seems straightforward to me.

I know we're not to evaluate the artistic merit of the of the mural in question, but um I'm happy to see the the movement around town towards these things.

I'm very happy to support this.

Commissioner Del Negro.

I agree.

This seems like a very straightforward project.

Um, something that's really nice to see.

Seems like a benefit the community.

I don't see any conflict or issues here.

I'd be more than happy to put forward a motion to approve after discussion is completed.

We haven't put the motion up yet.

So I would say um, I know we're not supposed to comment on the mural itself, but this thing is that's beautiful.

God, I can't wait to see that.

So, um, with no further ado, can I make a motion?

Could I this is Commissioner Del Negro?

I'm sorry to interrupt.

I was just gonna say out of curiosity, I'd be I'd be very curious to know who the artist will be for this.

I think that's in there.

Just because I admire it as you do.

But we don't have to hold up the commission for that.

Commissioner Del Negro, all right.

I'd like to make a motion to approve PDP 26032.

Oh, you took away my.

I'll second that.

Turn on your mic.

Your microphone.

It's on.

Um can we have a vote?

Sure.

Commissioner Reddick.

Yes.

Commissioner Del Negro?

Yes.

Commissioner Rems.

Yes.

Chair Gordon.

Yes, please.

Motion approved.

Yeah.

Um, which moves us to the coastal trail, the coast development permit to allow modifications to the coast site trail and some installation of fencing.

I do believe this is Scott Phillips.

He's going to handle this.

Yes, thank you, Chair Gordon and members of the planning commission.

Hope you all had a nice memorial day weekend.

Okay, so this slide shows the subject property and uh which is entirely within state parks, uh sort of on the northern portion of the city just south of Morada Road.

Uh just east of the site is the Casemira condominiums as well as the uh two Morada Road, uh, slightly north and to the west.

The site is within the regional public recreation land use designation, and the uh open space passive zoning district.

Uh so the project itself includes the modification and relocation of approximately 50 square feet linear feet of the California Coastal Trail, uh slightly east of the current location, which is uh fairly close to the bluff edge.

Uh the new trail surface would be a uh decomposed granite or similar uh hard surface uh with uh only excavation to approximately six inches.

So it's uh very fairly shallow depth for the uh excavation for the new trail.

Uh would wooden split rail fencing would be installed along the side of the new trail, and then during construction, um uh exclusionary uh tree fencing would be installed on along the east side.

Now warning signs would also small warning signs would be uh uh posted on on the new split rail fencing, uh just to uh indicate the um bluff edge close by.

Uh let's see, and then as far as construction staging, a small area would be set aside uh directly south of the new uh trail improvements uh to accommodate for uh construction staging.

Permits requested include a coastal development permit.

Uh given that uh this is uh within a terrestrial uh Esche area uh within 100 feet of cliff or bluff edge.

Uh so that's the primary reason why we're processing a coastal development permit in this case.

Okay, so this slide shows the existing site plan, uh the sort of the orange rectangular area uh indicates where the work would take place, uh roughly where the orange barricades uh currently exist along the the uh the trail edge.

This slide shows the proposed site plan, uh and uh tried to sort of emphasize the the proposed improvements with the colors there.

Uh the the gray indicates the where the new trail location would be, the decomposed granite or similar uh red indicates where the the new split rail fencing would be would go, and also I included a elevation of the new split rail fencing and the signage, and then the orange on the east side there would be the uh exclusionary fencing during construction to keep people away from the uh the large cypress tree that's in the vicinity.

Now the staff report did have a uh uh Arbus report and the recommendations to the arborists uh one of them being the the installation of the temporary uh exclusionary fencing.

Uh blue square indicates where roughly where the uh construction staging would take place, just south of where the trail improvements would go in.

Now, as far as the analysis, we do have uh several policies within the land use plan.

Uh, the project is certainly in conformance with I picked out two uh just to sort of uh you know as an example, uh maximizing coastal access and recreational opportunities.

Uh this would certainly uh preserve the existing trail, uh, increase the life of it and uh keep it open to the public to you know an area that uh has some broad ocean views and uh certainly beneficial to uh for the recreation opportunities.

Now, as I mentioned, the site is uh within a terrestrial escha, and uh policy 6-16 does allow for repair and replacement of existing facilities uh within terrestrial buffers.

Uh so as I mentioned, the project is in conformance with this uh key policy as well, and then the site is within the open space passive zoning district, and uh trail improvements or public trails are a principally permitted use within open space passive zoning, the open space passive zoning district.

Uh this project would uh improve and extend the life of the existing coastal trail.

Uh so again, this is a project is is in compliance with uh the applicable um sections of the zoning code associated with open space passive.

Now, as far as the California Environmental Quality Act, uh State Parks is the lead agency.

They posted a CEQA exemption at the clearinghouse uh as a responsible agency.

The planning commission would need to uh you know concur with the state parks determination that the project is exempt.

Uh we do feel we don't anticipate any uh potential impacts to the environment, so we agree with state parks.

Uh we recommend uh you know planning commission uh consider the the exemption that state parks posted.

Now, in summary, um uh we recommend planning commission evaluate uh applicable policies in the land use plan, zoning regulations, and then the CEQA exemption that was posted by state parks, and then as far as noticing and outreach, uh so we are required, our code requires us to post a sign on site within a week of the application submittal, which we did on this, and uh we did uh receive some feedback from some neighbors.

Uh we strongly recommended the that the applicant hold a courtesy outreach meeting on site, uh and they took our recommendation and and they conducted us a um an outreach meeting at the trail.

Uh roughly 20 people attended.

Uh we received quite a bit of feedback from uh neighbors in the vicinity, which was included in the staff report as attachment five.

Uh I did try and separate the correspondence received out associated with the outreach meeting compared to the more recent correspondence, which I also attach to the staff report.

Now, as far as uh advertising for the meeting this evening, uh we posted the site once again with the uh the proposed site plan.

Uh we also mailed notices out to all the neighbors within 300 feet.

We published a legal notice in the newspaper, the uh the daily journal.

And I did receive a few more emails uh today, which I forwarded the commission to the commission this afternoon.

Uh so uh in general uh we've researched received quite a bit of support for the project, uh which I think would be helpful for the planning commission to know.

And with that, we are recommending approval.

Now uh know that there is a 10-working day appeal period following the planning commission decision uh that anyone could appeal uh to the city council, and then this site is within the appeals jurisdiction for the coastal commission, so there is a a separate appeal process.

Uh once the final city city decision is is completed, any s final city approval can be appealed to the Coastal Commission within another 10 working days.

That concludes my presentation.

I'm happy to answer any questions.

We also have the uh the applicant and uh engineer that worked on the project uh here this evening.

And uh uh let's see, I'm fairly certain that there's a recommend a uh representative from state parks that's logged in virtually.

So I'm happy to answer any questions.

Uh thank you, Scott Phillips.

Um I'm gonna bring it back up to planning commissioners for clarifying questions first.

Do you have a question about it?

Um, yes, Commissioner Reddock.

Uh thank you, Scott.

Uh I I'm pretty sure this is in your staff report, but just for the record, could you uh state what we think about timing of this and duration of the repairs?

So once a final approval is received.

Uh it's anticipated that the work would take uh you know at most two weeks.

So and I'm I'm sure the uh the engineer that's available this evening, he'd be able to provide some additional information on uh what would be involved with the construction work.

And did I read correctly that they're looking at the end of summer time frame?

Yes, ideally before uh you know the the rainy season.

So okay, thank you.

Commissioner Rams.

Uh Scott, did you have any negative comments on this project?

Well, when the initial application submittal sign was posted on site.

Well, we did receive quite a few uh questions and concerns from uh some neighbors, and that that's what prompted us to encourage the applicant to hold a meeting on site since that time.

We have not received any.

So thank you.

Commissioner Del Negro.

Um to be clear, this is moving from an asphalt gravel to a DG, is that correct?

Um I would describe the the current surface as asphalt.

Yeah, so so some of the asphalt would be minimal asphalt would be removed, and then the trail would essentially be relocated further east.

Uh as shown on the slide here, the the dark gray area.

The dark gray would be a uh decomposed granite with uh some adhesive mixed into it to for a binding agent.

Okay.

So has this been in front of the BPAC?

No, it has not.

That's a deficiency you need to remedy before I support this.

I think they should review this.

This is a major bicycle and pedestrian transit section.

My kids ride this all the way up to Granada.

Um, and unfortunately, DG gravel is not amenable to many bicycle types, while cruisers and big wheel bicycles do fine on it, road bikes do not.

We would be happy to to request feedback from the from the uh bicycle pedestrian advisory committee.

Uh one suggestion is we could add a condition of approval.

I would also suggest uh getting some feedback from the uh the engineer that designed the improvements, he may have some suggestions on uh uh you know a surface that would be more uh amenable.

Sure.

Do you know if there's any other sections between say Poplar Beach and El Granada where there is DG gravel in that entire length?

No, I am not aware of any.

So this is a major substantial change to that, in your opinion, as far as materials being used.

To my knowledge, this would be the only section of the coastal trail within city limits that would uh be a decomposed granite.

So uh I would suggest uh, you know, maybe requesting feedback from the designer on this.

So, can I ask a follow-up to that?

I certainly.

South of Seymour water course.

Mr.

Chair, if I could clarify, the um the North Wave Crest Trail is actually a gravel path and not decomposed granite.

Decomposed granite has, like I said, has a binding agent in it, and uh which I'm honestly not well versed in, but um that that would be a good question for the uh the designer to provide feedback on.

Um Dale, do you have some feedback?

I think the applicant is called in, is it?

Yeah, and of course, Dale is always knowledgeable.

But I also wanted to add that um this is an area um where managed retreat is gonna be necessary.

This is an area that was litigated and settled.

There's a settlement agreement.

Um between the uh Casemira and the Coastal Commission.

I'm not sure how they're gonna resolve their differences in this area.

So this is a temporary solution, um, no matter how you look at it, uh, because um riprap is not gonna be allowed there by the coastal commission.

So at some point in the near future, uh, there will have to be some kind of managed retreat solution.

So I just wanted to add that for more context.

Um good evening, Commissioners Dalita, interim city engineer.

Um, I just want to add, so um this project has been presented to BPAC, and they have expressed their support, although the specific material of the I guess the replacement trail wasn't wasn't a point of discussion.

Um, but I'm happy to bring it back to BPAC at our next meeting in July, uh July 2nd, um, to confirm whether they have an opinion one way or another.

Um I should also add that um you'll be hearing later this evening presentation on our on our capital improvement program, and one of the projects in there um to consider is a is a coastal trail overlay project, which would look at this is a revision to an existing project, but it looks at uh resurfacing uh the asphalt trail uh from Morada Road all the way up to the Seymour, all the way down to the Seymour Bridge.

Um, and then Scottish Correct, south of that Seymour Bridge is the wave crest parcel with which is the gravel section to Redondo Beach Road.

Thank you.

Um Bridget, do we have um the applicant online?

Is it Linda?

Okay, yes, I'm allowing Linda to talk.

Just want to make there you go.

Thanks.

Can you hear me?

Yes, go ahead, Linda.

Hi.

Yeah, this is Linda Hitchcock from State Parks.

We are working with um Robert Stevens, and I'm not sure if he's present tonight, just that could speak about the DG, but what was brought up earlier is is what I think is very important for the commission to understand is this is a temporary managed retreat.

This is the first step in um moving this trail eastward.

It's something that we want to do fairly quickly.

Um the DG was um decided to be able to do this relatively quickly, and then I'm also as Dale spoke.

Um State Parks is also part of the project that he has that would resurface the entire um trail if we get the funding.

So you're gonna hear a little bit more about that later.

So those two pieces kind of come together, but I think right now what we need to um just be sure is that this is a temporary solution to a safety issue.

The trail has actually fallen into the ocean at this point.

There's some orange barricades there.

If you um are familiar with the winter, we've lost some of the barricades over the edge, and so um when we were approached to do a joint project with Casemira and the engineer Robert Stevens, um, we decided that we needed to move forward on this.

This isn't a long-term solution, it'll probably last for several years with the way it is.

Um, but ultimately, you know, this is gonna be a problem area.

But I think it's in the best interest for all of us for safety to do this as soon as possible.

So then, like I mentioned, Dale and I are working on a paving plan.

So this is David Gorn.

I had a question for you.

I mean, that was that was pretty clear that it qualifies for the within 100 feet of a cliff or a bluff edge.

Um I it's hard to imagine this actually even surviving the winter, but I was wondering about the long-term plan.

So you're talking about putting a uh this other surface in for two years or so, and then uh redoing this trail farther to the east.

Is that right?

I think right now we don't have a long-term plan, and that's something that we would need to work on what the long-term plan is.

That's obviously um partly will depend on the final decision between Casemira and the Coastal Commission about the rock and and their what's going on there.

I think we've been told this could last up to you know five years, it could last longer, depending it just really depends what the winter storms are like.

Um, but we feel confident that this is a good solution.

Uh a right the step in the right direction.

Okay, thank you.

Um, I also have, yes, go ahead.

Uh Commissioner Del Negro.

Um, I guess what my next question would be is if you are going to change surfaces from asphalt to DG in a section, even a temporary.

Will there be any signage also installed that says um change change in pavement surface warning to bicyclists that this is happening in front of them?

Um, that is of course a dangerous situation to go from asphalt to DG in transition.

I think we have the engineer here that can speak.

I'm more worried about the safety here.

Uh, this is Linda again.

Um, one thing that you, I'm not sure how many of you go out there and ride your bike.

Um we do not have that in the plan, but we could add that.

Um, we uh we right now what you see happening in this area is that the public is riding their bikes, and then they get to the spot where there is the the drop-off, and they're already going on to um, you know, it's basically like dirt right now, and they're going onto the dirt here, and then they're also going on to a dirt path that is behind Casamura behind the condos to make a detour, and they were doing that all winter long.

So they're pretty familiar that there's a problem here.

We we see like pretty familiar, but yeah, we could definitely add a signage.

I think that would be a good idea for people that don't ride it all the time.

So I actually don't know who's at the podium.

Good evening, Commission.

My name is Robert Stevens.

I uh hi, Robert Stevens.

I am uh representative of the engineer for Linda, so Linda stole my thunder, but I'm also a resident of Half Moon Bay.

I live on Roosevelt.

I frequent this trail almost every day.

Um, you know, this condition has been here for many, many, many years.

And as Linda mentioned, as people have been forced to go inwards, they've uh caused more uh erosion of the soil there.

Um somebody last year placed some rock in there.

We're not sure who did that, but somebody did put some rock in there.

Uh that's what folks on cycles and are walking or actually walking on top.

So the idea was to do an interim improvement, something that was quick and easy to do, to put something down that was a stabilized surfacing material that's composed of decomposed granite.

It has a binding agent in it, so it sticks it together so people that are walking or running or in a wheelchair or on a bike can uh safely go across it.

It is the same substance that you will see on the Timedus Creek Beach uh path where the uh it's soon to be open, the path that's gonna go from the parking lot down, same surfacing material.

Uh Midpen uses this.

You see this in a lot of recreational facilities.

It's a great solution for an interim uh operation.

It needs to be looked at, it needs to be maintained.

I think some sort of warning sign is fine to place there, but again, this condition has existed for many years, and I would argue that the uh existing uh orange barricades that are now are probably um uh not a great solution, and this new fence will provide a little bit more protection for folks that might be walking or riding along here.

So thank you very much.

So, did you think about asphalt when you first get this?

We did consider what's what's the drawback of the fast fault.

There's no drawback to asphalt.

This the idea behind this, this was gonna be something that uh we were gonna just basically put in and and be done with.

So asphalt is a totally applicable option if should we decide to do that.

Is it more expensive?

Is it harder to do it?

It is more expensive, and we would have to check with uh you know the folks that will be funding this to see if they can afford that.

Just trying to figure out why why it changed.

Okay, thank you.

I had a couple of quick questions.

Um, one is that, you know, obviously the staging area doesn't sit on top of a tree, but when I compare the two maps, it kind of looks that way.

So um maybe you could put up the um I guess the staging area one and see where where the show me where the trees are because I don't see that on here.

Like that's that's right about where the, you know, when you look at the other map, that's right where the tree is.

I can't, yeah, the overhead photo, but that can't be right.

So I'm just trying to get it, I just trying to understand.

The staging area is right adjacent to the bench that's out there.

It's within the uh disturbed soil issue, it's not on top of any trees right now.

You see the trees behind it?

The trees are behind it, and there's a bunch of fallen limbs that are there right now.

And and I didn't also see how a truck gets down there.

How do you get a crew down there?

Because there's not there isn't a road.

They they just drive down the trail.

They're gonna drive down coastal trail.

Yeah, I mean it's a small little bobcat or something, very small.

All right, thank you.

Um that's all my questions.

Nobody else, okay.

Um I wanted to open this up to uh public comment.

If anyone has anything to say on this issue, um online, you have to raise your hand.

Uh in person, you can come up to the podium.

Um, if you have something to say, now is the time to say it.

Yes, absolutely.

You have to tell me your name.

I'll get there.

Good.

Good afternoon, you guys.

Uh, my name is Dell Kitchen.

I'm an owner of uh a part owner of a triplex two morata, which this path goes completely through the prop our property.

Can you hear me okay?

Oops, Daisy.

Yeah, you're kind.

Yeah, you're good.

Um there's quite a things that these people are not representing to us so far in this in this room.

First thing is I brought the attention of this, uh, it is an emergency to both the city and the state.

Um, pretty much about in January of 25.

Um, and um the Linda Hitchcock and her people never got back to me or my attorneys.

Um this bluff with a red boxes.

If you look at the screen, is about a 25-foot drop-off.

So if someone goes off of that path in any facet, um they're either gonna break major bones or possibly die.

And it is an emergency.

They have what's called, I would call them well, they are false barriers.

There are these orange barriers that um are supposed to be um temporary.

I've asked the city and the state what temporary means.

Um, those barriers have been there since 2016 and it is or 17.

It's 2026 now, so it's way past the temporary thing.

Um, there's a there's a quite a few issues.

The other thing too is when I brought it to um Dell and and I don't think Scott was in there, but um we had an emergency permit issued in 25 to go.

If you pull, we have another picture here, you guys that go around Casemira.

Casemira owns none of this property that we're talking about.

So I don't even know why Casemira is even being discussed.

And so if you if you see around the state, we had an emergency order which would secure the public.

I own a safety company.

I own a scaffolding company.

I know what safety is.

I've dealt with OSHA for 25 years.

And it goes it goes to the east of Casemira.

Um and we have that permit.

If you pull back, it goes right right there.

There's already a path there.

Um and that way people can be safe.

Um there's other points that Scott didn't mention or anyone else mentioned is we have a maintenance contract with both the city and the state.

That's we the property we own right there.

They're supposed to have a staircase to the south so people can get access to the beach.

And I've sent Scott Phillips a lot of pictures of people accessing the beach through my rip rat, which is on my property, which they're not supposed to do.

So people can get injured accessing the beach.

And when I asked them to please not access the beach, they say, Oh, I've lived here for X amount of years, and they're not only just trying to access by themselves, but with their little toddlers and their picnic baskets and their surfboards and everything else, and I'm just like someone falls and clips their head or whatever, people can be injured.

The other thing too is this path I I live at this property, um 24-7, 365.

And I walk I notice, and that's why I brought it to the city and the state.

I watched people, you know, people go through e-bikes here going 30 miles an hour with with lights on, drinking whatever they're doing in the middle of the night.

Some guy goes off the bluff here and he's dead.

I also watched um young toddlers, you know, mom's looking at a whale or looking at the ocean, the toddler's on his little scooter screwing down the path.

You're talking inches, and someone's going off that bluff.

There's nothing.

These guys are trying to rectify this by putting a fence up.

Um again, it only goes to a certain spot.

There's still gonna be an open bluff that goes directly 25 feet down onto a beach.

And again, you guys, this whole thing can be everyone can be safe by going and using a state whole part that goes right right to Mara Rep.

So thank you.

Yeah, um, you know, I I what they're trying to do is you know, I would call this uh a shotgun wound, and they're trying to put a band-aid on it.

And they've a couple of these guys have said it's a solution.

This this thing could fail again in one winter storm.

There's no there's no date on us on on the weather here.

I mean, that bluff is failed.

The pavement is literally physically down on the beach right now.

And even there, see where those lines are still to the north of there, that's still an open source right there.

So anyone can go off the bluff right there, which is our property.

So I would suggest, which I told them in January 25, and we had an emergency permit place right there.

The only guy who put a cease and assist is the is the attorney of Casemira, and what he's trying to achieve is just he's trying to make a seawall.

He's been in a fight with the California Coastal Commission, and he's in turn kind of putting my our property, which we own, he doesn't know Casemira doesn't own our property.

He's trying to put us in hostage so he can build his seawall.

But meanwhile, he's billing Casemira hundreds of thousands of dollars while he's in this fight to make a seawall.

And so um we haven't seen him, but when I've tried to to contact Linda Hitchcock here, she's she's unresponsive to me or my attorneys, and uh forgot the guy's attorney's name for Casemira, he he hung the phone up on me and and told Ms.

Trust to us too.

So anyways, I appreciate you taking the time and getting coming in.

And again, I I want I want people to be safe.

That's good.

So that that's what I'm looking for, and that's why I brought to these guys' attention uh in the first place.

I'm watching these people and I just don't want people to get injured.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Quite a public comment.

Is there any other public comment either online or in person?

I am seeing none online.

Well, so I'm closing public comment.

Oh, I have somebody who I do have a somebody raised their hand.

Tyler Tyler.

Tyler Landinski.

Yeah, let me just um allow you to talk.

Hi, Tyler Lindinski.

Go ahead.

Do you can unmute?

There you go.

Oh hi.

There you go.

Go ahead.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Perfect.

Thanks.

Um yeah, I had no skin in the game uh for this, and I I don't see uh huge problem, but I just wanted to bring the attention, um, and maybe you guys already discussed this, um, you know, as uh typically in my experience when you you are trying to mitigate something this close to a sea cliff, um, and this is part of my you know professional experience.

Um you know you look at erosion rates of the sea cliff, um, and try to design something that might have a lifespan of 50 years or 25 years or something like that.

And I know you guys may not have a much I don't know the constraints of the space, but you know, for future, I don't know if it's possible.

I would encourage looking at um or hiring the consultant to look at the erosion rates, even though there is some you know riprap through that area.

If I recall correctly, I think you're right on the edge of where the riprop riprap ends, so there's no rip rep actually where this place failed, this little failure.

And um as the gentleman said before, you know, it's it's likely that it will happen again, probably in the relatively recent time.

So I don't want all the effort that you guys are going through to kind of only last, you know, four or five years.

So um, you know, again, I don't know if there's anything that could be done, but just bringing it to their attention that there are professionals that you can hire to look at uh coastal erosion rates.

And then you can design something that says, okay, this cliff is gonna erode, whatever ten feet in the next 50 years, and then you can design something that's symbiotic with the ongoing coastal erosion process.

So thank you, Tyler Landinsky.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Um anyone else online?

It's time to raise your hand before I close public comment or in person.

Okay, I'm gonna close public comment and bring it back to planning commissioners for discussion.

Commissioner Reddick, give something.

Thank you, Chair Gorn.

Well, it the an interesting case here where we've now understand that uh managed retreat of this part of the path is is definitely in in the planning stages.

I guess my question would be for s for Scott for staff and for state parks, uh uh a quick repair, as you would like to do here.

Is that section of the trail gonna be safe enough uh until the formal managed retreat takes place or or has it have we considered a detour around here in the meantime?

Well, I'd be I'd be surprised if it lasted the winter.

I mean, that because of the rip rep stops right before it, all the force of the water goes to that spot.

That's why it washed out.

Yeah, I have to admit I haven't laid my own eyes on it since in this calendar year, but I appreciate your view of that.

Scott?

You know, I think it would be helpful to get uh Robert Stevens' uh perspective on sort of the lifespan of the improvements.

I know that's something that you know you he looked at when you know, sort of formulating the the project.

So, and yeah, was it you who said there's no long-term plan?

At this point, this is this was Robert who said it.

So um, yeah, maybe you could talk about the long-term plan a little bit too.

That'd be good.

Yeah, just and just Scott, I appreciate your response on that.

It's a question not only of the lifespan of the repair, but is that stretch gonna be safe after the repair is done?

Because the plan is to move it eastward a pretty modest amount, right?

Now there was some discussion with state parks on what is the eventual plan here, and that right now this is it.

So they they do and tend intend to do something in the future, but that they have not formulated exactly what you know what the next plan next sort of phase of the co this section of the coastal trail.

So, they wanna wait till it goes on the ocean and then do something.

Is that the idea?

I I think part of the complication there is the litigation.

So I don't think that state parks is not doing their part to make it happen, but they're because of the litigation, they're sort of hamstrung, there's they're into waiting until they conclude their settlement.

Yeah, I have no idea the backstory and what's going on here.

Um yeah, the riprap was placed without a permit, and then the Coastal Commission sued, is that right?

And then they at any rate, there was litigation, there's a settlement agreement, and part of the settlement requires um a plan for that area.

So, uh Robert, you're gonna make this all clear and straightforward.

So I'm gonna offer uh a couple of uh pieces of information.

So I'm also the engineer of the Maratha Pedestrian Bridge that San Mateo County completed.

Um so in that process, we did a lot of analysis regarding potential reroutes of the trail.

And as Dell was mentioning, uh, and this was the previous application, was to shift the trail uh to the east, around Casemira, uh, and then back to kind of where Alameda is, and then back down Marata and then back to the bridge.

Um the problem with that is that one, you would have to construct a trail to get back to Mara, and then Maraudha is not a class one trail.

So back in 2019 and 2020, we did a lot of analysis of what that would cost to create.

So that is a potential solution.

Um that was very unpopular at the time with several neighborhoods.

I don't several members of the community of the neighborhood.

I don't know where it stands today, but that is but would require some planning effort to see if that is a feasible alternative.

Erosion in this section of the coast is uh very linked to El Nino storms.

So if there is a big El Nino this year, there could be, and there's a lot of sand that's sucked out to sea, we could see a massive amount of bluff erosion.

You know, the erosion that occurs here can be 20 feet in one year on an El Niño year.

So we don't know what the future holds.

Um it has been stable for the last year or two, it has moved very, very limited.

Um of course, whatever is done here, it's a better solution because right now it is not accessible to those that are in wheelchairs or disabled.

It's not a safe method to walk or bike across.

So the whole concept and state parks' idea was to put something in as an interim solution to make it passable so that people could safely go through here, as well as to put a fence up to provide some level of protection.

Dell is correct, it would be wonderful to extend the fence along the whole corridor.

It would be wonderful to find a new solution for the trail, but that is not something that's gonna happen today, in my opinion.

Thank you very much.

That's very clear.

Um other commissioners, you have some yeah, that's it.

So I would guess uh I think there's kind of two things here.

One is that there's no long-term plan and the um and this temporary fix um could be very temporary since this is an El Nino year.

Um but that a temporary fix might still be better than no fix.

Um so that's the the one issue.

But then the other issue is the issue of the asphalt, which doesn't seem to be uh a problem to put in um and it would continue the um the coastal trail in the same manner of as which it's uh on you know the rest of the coastal trail would match the rest of the coastal trail.

Um I don't really see a problem with putting in the asphalt.

Um I can't believe I'm asking for asphalt over semi-vermeable, but um, but it's a good point.

And so that's the other issue.

So whether we have to kind of decide as a commission whether we feel like that's uh important enough to um ask for to the chair.

Commissioner Del Negro.

Yeah, I think um I kind of fall into the same group.

Obviously, there are always better solutions that nobody can afford, um, and it's always a matter of of evaluating risk to benefit of what we're doing here and try what we're trying to accomplish.

Um being this has been, as we heard earlier, um, an issue since even 2016.

We've gone for 10 years with the barrier if I take the word for the uh member of the public who spoke.

This has been there for 10 years.

Um makes me surprised that we're not suddenly finding a last minute effort to try and fix something that's been a problem for 10 years.

Um it's a little bit disappointing.

Um but then to do a temporary fix for a 10-year-old problem, anticipating that we're just gonna do another fix, kicking it down the road for another two years, um, seems to me um also not ideal.

Um I honestly believe that the surface material of DG gravel here is very problematic.

Um I definitely would have preferred to see an asphalt um solution to continue the trail as it was before without substantial change.

But also that feel uncomfortable the fact that the BPAC did not actually weigh the material as part of the evaluation, that's unfortunate because I think that somebody there probably would have said something.

Yes, riding a big wheel bicycle is not an issue as a former bicycle racer, and also is with kids who ride street bikes with narrow tires, uh, even DG gravel is not a um safe surface for those type of vehicles, um which you do see tremendously on the coastal trail.

Um I mean I would have at this point for an interim solution, try to get something done is obviously a priority.

I do agree that it needs to be accomplished.

Um I would definitely support a movement to asphalt over continuing DG tonight.

Anyone else?

Commissioner Rutte.

I guess I'd like to understand um what the reasoning is for DG rather than asphalt, and is is there is it easy to make that switch?

Does it bring up funding problems that could delay this?

Did you want to hear from the state parks, the applicant on that?

I'd be happy to if if that makes sense to everybody.

Is that was that the nature of the question?

I mean, I think they already hey you you're gonna have to quiet down.

You have to you have to quiet down.

Okay, it's not public, it's not public comment.

Okay.

So um uh Commissioner Ruddick, could you have a uh preference to who would answer your question?

I don't really care.

I'd be happy to hear from uh from the state parks to clarify things.

If the issue is the cost, I think we should probably hear from the applicant.

Linda, are you there?

Linda Hitchcock.

I mean it.

I would have to go and uh I don't know the difference in the cost right now.

So I can't tell you that if you switch it that we can do it, I would have to just go back and find out.

Okay, thank you.

Um I think we heard earlier that the cost was the difference and that it's some amount of cost, but that's not really our issue.

I mean our issue is uh safety and um and and really even with a temporary solution, I think matching the coastside trail is not a bad idea anyway.

Like why change it um to save a little money the only reason to save that money is because you think it's gonna go in the ocean in the next year or so and you don't want to waste you know but I I think if you're doing a solution you might as well just do it right.

I guess so I mean it was the point was made that today the people on bikes have to ride on dirt or or off the trail so DG while not perfect for for non fat tire bikes would be better than that.

I'm trying to think of a way that we could uh leave some flexibility open to for to require state parks to do the preferred method of asphalt without uh we could approve it with a condition of approval that it um be asphalt and if they can't do that um they would have to come back to us.

Yeah.

And you know we're you know we're um I think we we're all pretty much agreed that the project itself needs to get done in a timely manner because it hasn't been timely till now and that it's important to get it done but we haven't heard any kind of convincing argument that you know asphalt would slow the project and make a big problem and throw the financing off and and change the project I I think we've heard kind of just the opposite that it's a that it's kind of an annoyance but seems okay.

So I worry that it would be potentially weeks or or months before that gets resolved but I'm wondering if if we would be comfortable asking Director Lako to make that call and you know asphalt is preferred but if it if uh the state park says it's unrealistic in a in a appropriate time frame that that she could authorize it to go forward with DG to g given the emergency nature of this situation.

To the chair Commissioner Del Negro looking up the cost of first square footage for asphalt surfacing versus DG gravel with premium resin bound the difference in price is six to thirteen dollars for asphalt five to eight dollars uh for DG gravel you're talking about at what fifty foot by five foot section talk about two hundred and fifty feet worth of material this is a difference of about a thousand dollars to to twelve fifty in materials according to online installation costs I don't know but I don't know obviously what you guys is doing as far as installation that's private we have Robert at the podium yeah so just for scale because if it's a very small area right the DG here could be mixed on site be very simple to do asphalt has to be brought in I think that asphalt here would probably be double the cost of doing that I'm not saying it's impossible to do but I think providing some flexibility in that would be a good thing and really a class one trail should be partially paved and it should also have shoulders that are decomposed granite.

So that's how it should be actually constructed.

So um no you have to you have to be quiet because it's not public comment time.

So um so Commissioner Negro so yeah I understand okay obviously public it might be double the cost I just don't know what the cost of this project is to understand what we're talking about here.

Not that spending other people's money is a is an easy thing to consider I take it very seriously.

But the view I have on danger to public and of course now doing signage to try and deal with it just keeps amplifying for me the problem is is going to be longer term considering it took this long to get to a point we're actually doing this project.

The issue I have um could be resolved if we understand one, the time it's going to be to this resurfacing project for the trail.

Two, whether or not this section of that project would be prioritized when it does come for time to asphalt.

That's a mitigation potential.

I'm trying to be creative here on ways to try and help this along um and of course putting into language that this is only an interim improvement with an expectation of a move to a uniform surface in the future would be another way of amplifying the palatability of an interim project is truly calling it out and saying this is just an interim solution.

We expect this to move back to that material.

Yeah, but they can promise anything.

Yeah.

I mean if you if you really want to make it an asphalt surface, you should say that we want to make it an asphalt surface, and that if it um, and uh maybe giving uh development director discretion over whether that is um whether to sort of make a hard line about that is the way to go.

Do we know the cost of the project?

Is the applicant disclosed how much this is going to cost them?

No.

Uh Linda Hitchcock.

We'd be willing to disclose a range.

Oh, sorry, I'm not uh we don't we're working with Robert Stevens on the um cost estimate for this, and um some of his time and everything is being paid for by Casemira, so we would have to go back and ask for additional money if we switch to asphalt.

So I can't tell you whether it's I can tell you right now State Parks doesn't have a lot of extra funds.

I don't know what the I just I just can't say at this time if we could um pay for asphalt.

So it would just have to be something that if that's a requirement, then we would have to go back and rebudget our and see if we can get it some way.

Thank you.

Um we're gonna have to we're gonna have to have you sit down because it is not public comment time.

It's not public comment time.

We can't we can't take it.

He has commented three times since he spoke.

It's part of the planning.

What's that?

It's part of planning as part of the city.

Part of the he's part of the city, the the applicant uh is outside of the public hearing, so we can the commission can ask the applicant to comment as much as we like.

Your asphalt still people are gonna fall right off the cliff.

Doesn't matter what kind of asphalt you have.

So there's still a whole you've made that point.

Thank you.

Thanks.

It doesn't matter what kind of asphalt.

Okay.

Um Robert, do you have another comment?

Yes, so last late last year when um we were working on coming up with a plan, we actually had a bid from a contractor to do uh a previous project to this before it got enhanced, and the in the order was about 35,000 to complete the work.

So this will probably be a little bit more than that for the stabilized decomposed granite surface.

Can I uh get your opinion while while you're there, which is you know, kind of every time I talk to state parks or Caltrans, um they always say, well, it has to be the way we've decided it is.

So in your opinion, like when you look at the project and you say, well, okay, if we had to make an asphalt, we could probably make that work.

Is that the case?

Or are we looking at um killing the project basically if we insist on asphalt?

Just an opinion.

I I I I don't know.

I I honestly don't, I honestly don't know.

If it costs ten thousand dollars more, forty thousand dollars to cure this problem.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Thank you.

Sorry to put you on the spot.

Um, do you mind if I offer a solution?

Well, a possible solution.

Um I think Scott recommended at the beginning that um if we include um a requirement for asphalt and leave some flexibility, the flexibility would be going back to BPAC and having them as experts look at it.

Um, should we, you know, should we get to a point where it needs to be DG?

They they could look at the safety and the um, and what would be required to have DG there instead of asphalt.

So that's not till July, you know.

Uh BPAC.

Yeah.

That would be July second, yeah.

Would you remind us when this project is anticipated to start?

If we have the the conversations I've had with state parks and is that they'd like to have this done before the rainy season, so for August.

So conversely, you could um include if you wanted flexible language you can include in your condition that the community development director in consultation with the city engineer, um, develop a reasonable reasonable plan for for decomposed granite um is if the project would not go forward with the asphalt.

So that would be the other way to provide flexibility.

Um, anyways, I'd be comfortable making sort of the motion talking about that we would require asphalt unless the BPAC would agree to uh DG gravel conversion at their next meeting.

To me, that would be the flexibility I'd become most comfortable with.

Um, I've been on BPACs, I know how this can go.

I know that they having an evaluation of that and not having a chance to speak up to it might be um actually kind of uh frustration on their end, anyways.

Um can make a motion.

Commissioner Reddick.

Well, I just wanted to ask if if um is there any chance that there could be an extraordinary BPAC meeting called much earlier than July to if you know if this uh uh there's a solution to an emergency situation pending like this.

Gailita.

Yeah, good evening again.

Um I would I would be reluctant to call call an emergency meeting just specifically to look at this item.

But I'm having a but I'm happy to bring it to our July 2nd meeting.

Why would you be reluctant?

Um just I mean, this is not under an emergency CDP, so to me it it doesn't strike me as an emergency requiring that immediate um feedback.

Let me let me add to that we have two engineers right now in the city, they're both very overworked, and you know, hosting a meeting and pulling together a meeting um is a lot of work.

So, you know, we have two admin staff in CDD that help pull together planning commission meetings on a regular basis, they just don't have that in public works right now.

Yeah, I understand that it's not literally an emergency, but when you when you hear the state of that and the input from the public who are you know taking pains to work around the problems on the trail it and the fact that state parks is ready to go with this today if we approve it.

I I just kind of hate the idea of these delays, even though I understand the motive for making the trail as rideable as the making the repaired areas rideable as the rest of it.

Well, I mean uh we have another suggestion.

Robert, we would love to hear from you.

So Dale Dale was pulling my leg here, and he was suggesting why don't you just do a thinner section of asphalt here, and you probably will be able to get it down to the price range that you need it to be in.

So I think we all want asphalt there.

So if we just do a little thinner section of asphalt, and we're talking about a couple of years, right?

And I think we probably could work something out to make that work, and then I think everybody would get what they want.

I think all we're really talking about is safety here, and you know, nobody up here wants to say no to the to fixing this trail, even if it lasts you know six months or a year or two years.

So um, but it doesn't make sense to fix it to something that is not entirely safe all by itself.

To the chair.

Commissioner Del Negro.

I appreciate that type of thought process, thinking outside the box here, um, trying to get something that's gonna quality.

You know, we know, as we've just heard, that obviously this thing can be washed out in a major storm, anyways.

Obviously, going something at the same cost of DG that while it may not have the longest life to it as asphalt, may be a great solution.

I actually really like what I heard, and I'd be very willing to go forward with that.

Thanks, Dale.

That's a great solution.

Commissioner Rams.

Mr.

Chairman, I'd just like to clarify one thing that the engineer said that we're all interested in asphalt.

I don't care if it's DG or asphalt.

Thank you.

Uh, do we have a motion?

I'll make a motion.

Commissioner Del Negro.

Make a motion to approve the coastal development permit to allow for modifications to section of the paved section of the California Coastal Trail with Halfham Bay State Park, South of Marauder Road, based on the findings and evidence contained in the draft resolution with the caveat that we move forward with a form of asphalt as the material in which to be used.

Second.

I'll second it.

Can we have a roll call, please?

Yes.

Commissioner Reddick?

Yes.

Commissioner Del Negro?

Yes.

Commissioner Rems.

Yes.

Uh and Chair Gorn.

Yes, please.

Motion approved.

Good work, you guys.

Thank you both.

Well done.

Thanks for your help.

Um that moves us on to our capital improvement program.

Um for the fiscal years 2026 to 2029.

Um, I don't know who's presenting this as Dale presenting or Leslie.

Dale.

Dale Lita and um Mike Burnfield are presenting.

And Mike Burnfield.

We have Dale Lita and Mike Burnfield.

The floor is yours.

All right, well, good evening, Commissioners.

I'm Mike Burnfield, assistant engineer with uh FM Bay Public Works.

It took me a little under a year to get here, but happy to meet all of you.

Uh so today we're going to talk about our capital improvement program general plan conformance.

Uh staff recommendation is to review the multi-year capital improvement program for consistency consistency with the city's general plan and local coastal program, as well as adopt resolution with findings that the capital improvement program is consistent with the city's general plan.

It's been a while since we've talked to capital improvement programs.

So I think a little refresher is in order.

Uh first and foremost, the capital improvement program is a planning tool.

Uh it helps identify specific projects to enhance the quality of life and experience to residents and visitors of Hafoom Bay.

Uh it prioritizes staff effort, scheduling, and project delivery.

Uh, it also helps uh manage the uh the funding for the public works projects and improve eligibility for state and federal grants to fill those funding gaps.

Uh we have a compiled list broken out into seven categories, those categories being stormwater, economic development, parks, facilities, sanitary sewers, streets, and trails.

Uh, we have a few changes this year uh compared to prior years.

Uh we are shifting to a uh uh an approach that prioritizes public safety, funding availability, and project readiness.

Uh one of the bigger changes is we are moving away from the one in five-year capital improvement project lists and focusing on a more streamlined three-year CIP.

Our current project list includes 34 projects over those seven categories mentioned earlier.

26 of those projects are returning with two of those being modified, and eight new projects.

Before I dive in to those projects, I just want to do a couple of highlights for the computer completed projects for last fiscal year.

We have our fiscal year 2526 pavement management project, which focused on pavement rehabilitation in the Arlita Park neighborhood.

And we have finally completed Carter Park after knocking off a couple of small punch list items.

So here's a list of our new projects for consideration.

Um these include uh projects such as our our phase two of our corp yard uh improvements, uh this year's pavement management project, uh the San Mateo County landfill clean closure, as well as the City Harbor City Hall Plaza for the revised projects uh for this year.

Uh we renamed the coastal trail overlay project to the coastal trail safety and rehabilitation project.

This is a project which aims to rehabilitate the paving, approximately three and a half miles of paving of the coastal trail between Morada Road and Seymour Bridge, and also add some safety elements such as signage and striping.

Uh the main street banner program and the downtown park and a downtown parking study to our downtown downtown streetscape implementation.

We saw a few common themes in our projects list with the general plan.

Uh one of those being the circulation element goals, which focuses on transportation, so streets and streets and sidewalks and overall uh cities accessibility, as well as record uh regular recreation element goals, which is parks, trails, and bikeways.

Similarly, we have our land use plan consistency, common themes.

These being uh public works policies, which focuses on city-owned infrastructure and the public right-of-way, natural resource policies, which kind of like water conservation or water resource conservation as well as stormwater infrastructure, uh, coastal access and recreation policies, and trails, parks, coastal access, uh, and environmental hazard policies, which is hazard mitigation.

This is our full 34 project list broken down into those seven categories.

And I'll open it up for questions.

Um have any projects been dropped since last year.

Uh no, no projects have been dropped since last year, only the four projects we completed last year, including the two Mike mentioned, as well as our um City Hall HVAC and roof repairs, which included the solar canopies and city hall and at the at the um substation, and what was the other one?

Oh, the climate adaptation plan, which was adopted um earlier this year.

Thank you.

Um, Commissioner Reddock.

Uh I um the the impact on the main street bid bridge pro uh project from the Caltrans work on highway one.

What's the thinking on that now?

Um, so we are so currently the main street bridge project, we were slated to start work today, as a matter of fact, and um late last week, after um a week of a lot of pain sitting in traffic, um we made a decision to hold off on the start date until we were sure that Caltrans had had addressed uh the issues with the signal timing.

And so today was actually our first glimpse to see how traffic kind of responded under normal conditions.

It seemed um fairly efficient, it seemed like things were moving well.

So I think we're at a point where we're going to start.

We're we need to circle back with our contractor and uh find a new start data.

As soon as we have that nailed down, we will we will reach back out and and start letting people know.

Um we are trying to balance this construction schedule with different activities in town, including 4th of July and school graduation getting out.

So it's a little bit of a it's a little bit of a balancing act trying to find that sweet spot.

But um as soon as we have that nailed down, we will we will be sure to start letting people know.

That makes sense.

Um one other question.

What what's the thinking about the Magnolia Park project currently?

Um there is a small amount of funding allocated in the Magnolia Park um fund currently, um, but that project is not slated to start work until I believe the next fiscal year.

Um so um current currently uh where we're at from uh from a staffing standpoint uh within our public works department where we're we're short staff, um and based on our prioritization for projects.

Um we uh we have a prior we're prioritizing projects that emphasize public safety um and as well as publics that are fully funded and publics that are ready to ready to start construction.

So those projects that Mike listed earlier, highlights for this next fiscal year.

Um all those projects meet those three three goals.

Um Magnolia Park, I wouldn't frame it as a public safety project, and and currently it is not shovel ready or fully funded, and so it's it's a little bit farther on our list.

Now that being said, if we're able to if budgeting for the city improves and we're able to kind of build up our support staff, it may be something we could get online sooner, but currently it's not included in this next fiscal year's um planned work effort.

I understand.

Thank you for clarifying that.

Um Commissioner Ms has a question.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

I'd be curious to know on your paving uh program here when uh Kelly is scheduled for either some repairs or repaving between Coast Highway and Main Street.

I drive that quite often, it's just allogated all over the place, and it's just a mess, you know.

Yeah, the portion between I think Church Street and Mary Montes, or is it uh no, uh Prisma?

Um that is it it's in really poor condition.

Um we're actually um I'm in the process of getting quotes.

So we have some leftover funds from um last year's paving projects still, which which we're able to utilize and leverage for smaller projects, and so though it's not included in our CIP, we're looking at a smaller project to mobilize on Kelly Avenue to fix those those really bad spots.

Um that project, the timing for that is also a little bit in flux given impacts with Caltrans work and other impacts to traffic that'll be a result of the main street bridge work.

So it's all a little bit of a juggling act.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Uh just another just a curious question.

It would it be appropriate to talk about new projects, those that are not on the list here that maybe we could add at some point.

But I think right now we're just talking about um clarifying questions, like if you have a question about what's on the but I guess you could ask about.

Well, I'm just kind of curious.

I don't see anything on a list about undergrounding utilities, you know.

Telephone poles.

Get rid of them, you know.

Is there is there a program for that or you thinking about it or I mean if you just go down the ocean side of Coast Highway on Kelly, uh it's the cables that are holding up the poles, you know, so they're and my power goes out all the time.

And I live in that neighborhood right behind there, and the main power comes off of those poles on Kelly.

So I'm very concerned about that because uh, so you're just wondering if it ever will be on the list.

Is that it?

What is it?

Is that right?

Say again.

What are you asking?

I'm just asking if there's a program to incorporate underground utilities.

Thank you.

Or will there be a program to do that?

So I can I could speak a little bit towards that.

Um I so PGE has a I think it's a rule, it's either the Rule 20 or the Rule 22 fund, which allocates um funds to individual cities for for undergrounding um different utilities.

The last time that I um I looked at this or discussed it was I think with regard to the popular um uh popular street kind of uh complete streets project, and I believe we used some of our rule 20, or we used what we currently had left of rule 20 funds um somewhere on that for for a portion of that work.

I know I know there's still polls out there, but I think for the relocation work that was done.

Um, I'm not aware currently there's no other projects plan, but um when we do look at when we have a larger project, such as a complete project, complete streets project, that would be something we would look at incorporating into that project.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Commissioner Del Negro.

I got a series of questions.

Some are warranty around safety and where the safety elements fit within the uh the plan.

Um is obviously we've heard from the fire marshal this year about our increased risk in fire trees, um, is dealing with the downtown um streetscape part of the um amended downtown strategic plan.

Is there anything in there about dealing with those fire risks?

So the probably the best project I would I would point to towards um mitigating those hazards would be our climate, our our cap implementation plan, which is a new project that that was included, and this is a follow-up to our CAP, which was adopted.

Um the implementation plan is a project that would that would see um staff going to each individual neighborhood within the city, um, reviewing kind of the CAP exposure, discussing it with individual residents, as well as working with the local cert teams um to prioritize and and flesh out kind of the top priority projects in each neighborhood.

So, for example, if downtown would be one neighborhood, we would be looking at downtown.

What are the what are the cap hazards for downtown?

If it's streets or if it's street trees, then it would be quantifying how many trees need to be removed, what's the cost associated with that?

So better defining individual projects in each neighborhood would help put us in a better position to pursue additional grant funding or or help move those individual projects forward.

And that's what that's what the implementation plan is focused on.

Okay, this the next question is we're we're in these action plans, is the evacuation um improvement focused on like vacuum plans.

Obviously, I see that's one of the agendas in the overall scope of, but I'm not sure which of these plans would have some element of that in it.

I think that we had that evacuation issues for tsunami warnings recently, it's on the top of my mind.

You're talking about for emergency vehicle evacuation.

Um it is one of the items that we're studying currently within our South Corridor um project.

Now, this is looking from highway 92 to the southern limits of town.

Um and I know that the county is also working on their um, they're working on a separate uh, I can't remember the name of it.

Do you remember what it's called?

Uh they're doing the SB99 analysis for the safety element.

Um, and they're also working on the local hazard mitigation plan.

Local hazard mitigation plan.

Um, and there's also um I think what is it?

Plan Bay Area 2050, which is another kind of regional plan that's looking.

So each of those plans touches a little bit and looks at um evacuation.

I would say our South Corridor plan is probably looking at it most closely currently with those with the southern half of town and looking at physical improvements and opportunities to um improve emergency vehicle access, among other things like congestion and safe access for bikes and pets across the highway.

Fantastic.

Um next question I had was the safe streets for all action plan.

Um I'm gonna sing this till the days come.

Um, is that have any chance to have an element about a stop sign at the entrance to the high school on Foster Lewis Drive?

Being that every morning and every evening at the end of school, I watch high schoolers who are just learning how to drive, pull through fast moving traffic on main street and can't find ourselves getting in and out of that very easily, it seems to me like the most dangerous place in town twice a day.

Um is that at all in our purview in that plan?

Uh so the Safe Streets for All Action Plan looks looks at um historical data as well as provide um community feedback looking at different intersections of different areas throughout town, um, and develops a uh it's a uh well it's uh it's a tool belt of different different measures you can implement at each intersection uh to improve safety.

And so things like stop signs or other traffic control, that's that's included.

There's other elements like pedestrian refuges, better site distances, um also all sorts of all sorts of different things you can do with um intersection geometry and um different crossing features, signage, whether it's flashing beacons, etc.

And so all those are all those are included within it.

I can't speak whether or not Louis Foster Drive is currently included within that.

Um I have to imagine it is though.

I can I just can't confirm that.

It's still in development.

Yeah, that's one of the ones that always shocked me to this day.

I still can't understand how it's not you know part, has been done yet.

Um, I should say that uh we have been I have been in discussions with uh this Cabrillo School District, and they they're they are looking at additional improvements there currently.

Um they haven't submitted any type of encroachment permit to the city yet, but I know it's something that they're concerned about and looking at uh improving.

And isn't Lewis Fuster Drive managed, owned by the school district?

That's correct.

Okay.

But on Main Street, I guess we do have control of what happens on Main Street intersection.

Um I say that because you also watch cars back up all the way out to Highway One every single morning making a left, and that's part of the traffic problem.

People have even getting through town.

Funny enough that a stop sign would probably actually speed up that traffic by allowing people to make a left and not back up the entire lane.

Okay, uh moving forward.

The next question I had was on one of the sense of bike and pedestrian connectivity to the train depot.

Could you tell me what that means?

Um so this was a small uh trail segment that was planned from uh Higgins Canyon Road to to the train depot on the east side of the highway.

Um so that project, I think I mean that project was it's been in our capital improvement program for several years now.

Um and there's been some funds allocated to it, but um it hasn't really moved forward in the past, I would say in the past five years.

A lot of other projects have just taken more of a serious priority to it.

And that gets down to the last question I have, which is I've watched over my career working in public service um cities struggle mostly with getting grant writing resources available to get these things done.

How are we doing on our grant writing access and our grant writing support?

Um, you know, we're actually really good at getting grant money.

Um I would say with our current CIP, we have uh total dollar amount within the of our our projects our CIP is worth around 90 million dollars currently.

Um that's that's a construction value of getting all these projects completed.

Um of that 90 million, I think currently we have around 45 million dollars in in funds, and of that 45, around 80 percent of that is is grant funds.

So we've been very successful in in applying for grants and winning grants.

The challenge that we've had is um the staffing effort it's needed to actually implement those projects.

We have a number number of projects that are grant funded today with very strict deadlines for when those projects need to be completed by, and we have to give those projects, um, and they are safety projects, but we actually have to give those priority over some of our other projects in order to ensure that we can get them done.

I appreciate that fiscal responsibility, and obviously I understand the stress of it for sure.

Thank you.

Um I guess that's all my major questions I had.

Thanks.

Hi, it's uh quite an impressive list.

I mean, what's impressive about the list is how many things are actually being done on the list.

So I know that there's a lot of things that are not being done on the list, and um ironically, some of them may be like the most important because they're longer term and expensive and complicated and involve so many other things.

So that kind of brings me to master stormwater.

Um, since we are gonna have bigger and bigger storms, we are gonna have bigger and bigger problems.

I did notice that Pullman is in preliminary design, which is probably the first time I've seen that.

So you go, that's great.

But the master plan, Keyhoe, Pillar Citos, those are all big.

Um they're not gonna get taken care of really in the next three years.

When are they gonna happen?

Like what what's the, like, you know, because of those are the things that always get bumped down the road, and then we don't have a stormwater master plan, you know, and it's 15 years later.

Um so um one of the things that you will will be better, an improvement in transparency in in our CAP when the full document gets published is the way um our project, and I'm so I apologize it wasn't included in tonight's presentation, but the way um we're we're gonna be displaying our project lists is um historically we've shown projects based on on our funding, which is helpful, but it's not as beneficial as showing it based on expenses because expenses show the lever level of effort.

So if I'm spending money, that means we're working on it.

So the new project list you'll see it will include each year the the anticipated expenses for each of our projects.

So you'll be able to very clearly see which projects we're putting the most effort to in this fiscal year and the next fiscal year in the following fiscal year.

Um and you'll when you see big expense, that means we're generally starting with construction on a project, and we see smaller early expenses.

That's more we're working on design.

Uh to answer your question, so we are working currently on the Pullman water course bypass that's in preliminary design currently.

Um we're we're we're getting some additional funding.

We have funding allocated for that project, and there's a little bit more included in this year's funding request, as well as some additional funds for the Keyhouse, I guess, watershed restoration.

Um, and so those projects are in our minds, and we are moving forward deliberately with those.

Um if you saw recent um discussions of the recent SAM board, there was um one of the things that the city proposed was a so the the Landstra property, which is which is the property just north of Bef Cunha Road, it's owned by Sam, and the city is looking to um for support from Sam to perform because it's owned by Sam, the city um made a request to Sam for an easement to basically move forward with a restoration project on that site.

Um, so that's currently in discussion.

Um so these things are moving forward, and I know it seems like they take time and they do, um, but yeah.

Um so when is this new expenses uh format gonna happen?

What what is that what time frame are we looking at?

As soon as I get a chance to finish it.

And after after the budget is adopted.

So within three years, then okay.

I'm kidding.

It's a joke.

Okay.

Um that was my only question.

Like those longer term things are still in development, but they're just they don't really appear on the uh as progress.

And so you'll see that when you see the expenses, that's correct.

Good.

Thank you.

Mr.

Chairman, I have one more question for the question.

Yes, Commissioner Rems.

Uh the first item here is Pillar Critos Creek restoration and remediation construction expected in mid-2026.

Are you still on schedule?

Because we're at we're almost at mid-2026.

That's correct.

We are still on schedule for that project.

So we're gonna start at the ocean move your way up, and what the what's the extent of the project?

Um, so this project um primarily focuses on the corridor behind, I would say behind Safeway from um from Bellevue up to up to roughly up to the highway, highway one.

Um along the what would you call it the north side of Pillar Citos Creek?

Okay, so that's on the north side of Coast Highway.

Okay, thank you.

Commissioner Reddick.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I I think I think you answered or someone answered this question for me a year ago, but the secondary Poplar Beach access is that the so-called horseshoot that's close to Kelly.

That's correct.

Okay.

Thank you.

So we were doing sort of clarifying questions, but we kind of stepped over that line.

Um I guess I should open it up to public comment.

We should do that.

Um if anyone online or in person wants to comment on this now is the time, both of you.

Um I am seeing none, so I'm not opening public comment.

Do you have any other um discussion questions or discussion to Commissioner Del Negro?

I like to comment obviously seeing some of these trail segment uh east side parallel trails expanding, obviously, in lieu of recent events that we've had.

Um accidents, uh the child's death, you know, seeing these type of improvements around town.

I'm really pleased.

And I just want to point out that I think that prioritizing these things and getting these things started in the construction is uh will speak to the public well.

I want to say thanks to that.

Um Poplar Street traffic calming in phase two.

This is the south side, or sorry, the west side of highway one.

That's correct.

Okay.

Um, have any timing?

Um we're currently looking for for potential funding for for that project.

All right.

Um that's it.

That's a no.

No.

All right.

Yeah, that was it.

I just want to say thanks for obviously the trail work.

That's nice.

Thank you very much.

Um that brings us to our director's report.

So we have to uh oh, resolution.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were getting updated.

Okay, sorry, we need a resolution.

Uh go ahead.

Motion.

Uh I'm I move that the planning commission adopt the resolution at hand with findings that the multi-year capital improvement program is consistent with the city's general plan.

Do we have a second?

I'll make a second to that motion.

Bridget, can you take a roll call?

Yes.

Sorry, I almost passed over that.

I'm sorry.

Commissioner Reddock?

Yes.

Commissioner Del Negro?

Yes.

Commissioner Rems.

Yes.

And Chair Gordon.

Uh yes, please.

Motion approved.

Okay.

So that brings us to our director's report.

Leslie.

Thank you.

Um Chair Gorn, Commissioners.

A very short report this evening.

Um I will review the permits that we issued.

Uh we had two permits go to a director's hearing, and just to be clear, the director's hearing means that it gets a mailing notice and a legal notice in the paper and um a notice posted at the site.

Um administrator Douglas Garrison heard both projects and approved a second story addition, um, and remodel for 960 Pillar Citos Avenue, and a remodel in addition at 708 Johnston Street.

Um administrative permits included a tree removal, Monterey Pine uh on Trun Way, uh, and an ADU at 424 Valdez.

That was it for the permits since our last meeting.

Um I also just wanted to include a reminder that Midpen Housing is holding an open house on June 4th at 6 p.m.

at 801 Arnold Street to present their project that uh between Metzger and what is that?

Poplar?

Did I get that right?

You're talking about 920 Main?

Yeah.

Yeah, they they don't they don't want to call it 940 Main Street anymore because they're that house is gonna stay there.

Um but there's no address, so I'm always at a lack of words.

But it's the big space between Main Street and Cabrillo along Metzger.

Um and that project is proposed as 74 uh units, multifamily, and um it is an SB 35 project.

So these open houses that midpen housing is holding are the really the only opportunity um for feedback because under SB 35 there will be no public hearing.

Um, tell me again the date.

June 4th.

June 4th at 6 p.m.

801 Arnold Street.

Thank you very much.

Uh happy to hear that they're not uh gonna get rid of that beautiful old house.

I was actually just recently on that property about two weeks ago.

That's really nice.

That concludes my report.

Thank you very much.

It brings us to planning commissioner communications.

Do any of the planning commissioners have something they like to tell about?

I'd like to share something.

Um I was recently at the high school for words night and scholarship night, and I have to say our community um does an amazing job of fundraising for scholarships.

I watched uh I think it would they said something over 200,000 worth of awards to young high school kids going off to do their college from all different sources and input from the public.

It was probably the most impressive thing I have seen from a high school as far as fundraising in my ears.

So I I really wanted to call out that Happen Based Public's doing a great job of supporting our children going off to college.

Uh anyone else?

Uh do we have a motion to adjourn?

I'll make a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting.

I'll second it.

Um Bridget, I guess.

Rocco.

It could be unanimous, but um Reddit, Commissioner Reddick.

Yes, Commissioner Del Negro, yes.

Commissioner Rems, yes, and Chair Gorn.

So much power.

Everyone.

Everyone can go home.

Thank you.