Will you please call the roll?

Commissioner Samuels.

Present.

Commissioner Griffith.

Present.

Commissioner Brooks.

Present.

Commissioner Colman.

Present.

Vice Chair Muggler.

Commissioner DeProfio.

Here.

Chair Rogers.

Present.

Our first order of business is to approve the minutes as amended in the work session from the June 18th, 2026 Planning Commission work session and regular meeting.

Do we have a motion?

Move to approve the minutes as amended.

Second.

We have a motion and a second on the floor to approve the minutes from the June 18th, 2026 Planning Commission work session.

Is there any discussion or questions?

Madam Clerk, will you please call for the vote?

Commissioner Samuels.

Aye.

Commissioner Griffith.

All right.

Commissioner Brooks.

Abstain due to absence.

Commissioner Coleman.

Aye.

Vice Chair Muggler.

Commissioner DeProfio.

I I I was also absent and was planning to abstain.

If it if I abstain, will it the minutes not be able to be approved?

Nope.

If with four ayes, it will be approved.

Okay.

All right, thank you.

Um I abstain.

Chair Rogers.

Aye.

That motion carries.

There is no use planner report today, um, just for the record and for the benefit of the public, and there are no other items for the director's report.

So we will be skipping over that item on the agenda and moving to the public hearings.

So, director, if you will read the protocol, please.

Thank you.

The planning commission of the city of Hampton takes pride in being fair and courteous to all parties in attendance.

It is important that all involved understand the commission how it conducts its hearing and how all persons before the commission should conduct themselves.

Individuals other than the applicant or their representative who have signed up to comment on the case will have three minutes to present their comments.

All comments must be directed to the commission.

No person may address the commission until he or she is called by the chair.

Speakers must remain at the podium or microphone while addressing the commission, and speakers who have signed up may not donate their time to other speakers.

Please note that unless otherwise stated, the actions taken by the commission today are in the form of a recommendation to the Hampton City Council.

The final decision to approve or disapprove an application will be made by the city council at a future date.

Our first public hearing item is 26-0222.

This is a rezoning application for McDowell Point subdivision at 1772 Old Buckrow Road, LRSN 11002564.

This will be presented by our senior city planner Jay Randolph.

Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the Commission.

Uh as mentioned, this is rezoning application number 26-0222 at 1772 Old Buckrow Road.

This is an application to rezone 1.94 acres from one family residential, which is the R11 district, to two family residential, which is the R8 district.

The purpose is to develop one single family dwelling and four duplex dwellings for a total of nine residential units.

This is a general location map, and you can see the properties in the eastern portion of the city as indicated by the red star.

This is a closer view of the property showing the site and for reference, just approximately one quarter mile north of the site is the intersection with Fox Hill Road.

The zoning map indicates this property is zoned R11.

There is some R13, also single family residential property to the east of here.

To the west is multiple residential, which is the RM on the zoning map.

The future land use map does denote that all the property east of Old Buckrow Road as shown in this slide is designated for low density residential development.

This subdivision, McDowell Point would create nine residential lots as indicated with one single family dwelling and four duplexes.

It will construct a new public street and sidewalk, provide stormwater management, and establish new high quality residential development with consideration of the surrounding properties.

This is a general concept plan.

The rectangle shown in yellow on the far left would be the single family residence, and the four orange rectangles would be the duplex.

You can see the new proposed street, Lieutenant Colonel McDowell Way, as well as the sidewalk and the stormwater management facility on the far right of the slide.

This is a proposed elevation of the single family dwelling, and you can see there are a lot of architectural elements provided.

This property is not in the Buckrow Master Plan area, however, it is in the Buckrow community, and a lot of the designs and architectural features are pulled from that Buckrow Master Plan book in an effort to enhance the project and the overall quality and with consideration to the neighboring properties.

You can see it has a nice cover front porch railings, the shutters, the window designs, the building is two stories in height.

However, there will be additional finished heated space in the attic for either a bedroom, uh office, or other flexible use.

These are the side views of the single family dwelling, as well as the rear elevation of the proposed dwelling.

The duplex dwelling is designed to uh simulate a single family residence, and as you can see, many of the design features are carried over into this with the expansive front porch, the shutters, the window designs, the architectural shingles, and the siding will consist of fiber cement board siding in a horizontal pattern.

These are the side elevations of the duplex units as well as the rear elevation.

This application is consistent with the following public policies.

It safeguards the integrity of the existing residential neighborhoods, it promotes high quality design and site planning that is compatible with the surrounding development, and it encourages high-quality new developments that bring higher value.

Proffers have been offered with this application.

The nine single or the nine residential dwellings consisting of the one single family and the four duplexes.

All the dwellings would have a minimum of three bedroom and two bath and 1900 square feet.

And additionally, I'll note the single family residence is approximately 3,000 square feet.

As mentioned, there are architectural designs consistent with the Buckrow community, the covered front porches, the steps, columns, railings, shutters, and trim features.

There are resiliency materials being utilized for the siding and roofing.

It will construct a new public street, sidewalk, and storm management facilities, and it provides a landscaping plan with Southeastern Virginia native species to be used.

Community meeting was held on June 23rd.

There were two people from the community that attended.

One had general inquiries about the proposal, and the other attendee was interested in projects in the Buckrow area.

In staff analysis, this application furthers the adopted policies of the Hampton Community Plan.

It is consistent with the future land use map.

It provides high-quality residential designs utilizing the Buckrow Community features, and it has characteristics that help enhance the adjoining residential properties.

In conclusion, the applicant and owners are here in the audience, and they will have an opportunity to address the commission, followed by a public hearing.

Staff does recommend approval of this rezoning application with the nine proffered conditions, and the complete proffers are found in your package.

With that, if there are any questions, I would be pleased to address them.

Thank you for your presentation, Mr.

Randolph.

Are there any questions for staff?

Commissioner Griffith.

Thank you, Chair Rogers.

Um, the um the stormwater mitigation uh the BMP at the rear did staff find that that was an adequate approach for stormwater stormwater mitigation at the site.

And I'm also interested in uh the negative impact on the tree canopy in the area since there will be removal of what it looks like quite a bit of woodlands.

Um wanted to hear your thoughts on on how that would negatively impact the character of the neighborhood.

Um wanted to hear your thoughts on on how that would negatively impact the character of the neighborhood with respect to the stormwater management facility, that is conceptual.

The area shown would be approximate.

Final design has not been completed for that stormwater facility.

That is the preliminary design based on the amount of impervious surface that would be provided with this project, specifically the new road and the other impervious surfaces from the residences themselves.

So the final design is not set with the stormwater facility, it might be slightly larger or slightly smaller once the final engineering is complete on that.

With regards to the uh tree removal, yes, this will require a land disturbing permit.

Uh vegetation and trees that are removed are only removed to the extent necessary to provide the infrastructure, the new street sidewalks, the stormwater facility, and to provide an adequate building site for the residences.

Yes.

Commissioner Coleman, thank you.

I have a few questions, so uh bear with me, please.

Um first question is will the duplexes be for rent or for sale.

These are intended to be for sale units.

Okay.

Um they're approximately 1,900 square feet, slightly larger.

They will have the same uh designs as shown in the elevations, be two stories in height with some additional flexible space in the attic as far as heated uh living space in there.

But they are designed to be for sale.

Okay.

Do you mind pulling up the diagram again that showed the uh layout of the proposed development?

Okay, right there.

Thank you.

Um what's the blue thing on the far right?

This is the proposed stormwater management facility.

Generally, this is a wet pond, uh minimal depth, uh, and that's why you see the larger area as far as the foot footprint for that stormwater pond.

It is also proposed that there would be a decorative security fence placed around that to uh help reduce uh any small children or so forth from entering that stormwater facility.

Okay.

Um policy seven safeguarding the integrity of adjacent neighborhood um colonial acres.

Uh you that was on um mentioned.

What specifically is being done to safeguard the integrity of those neighborhoods.

What is being done is the elevations and the design.

Uh when the developer originally um approached the city about the possibility of rezoning this property, they were looking at a much higher density level for this property and to try to rezone the property perhaps for townhome type development as staff worked with the applicant, it was and the resiliency division within our department, it was deserved determined that a better use would be much lower density on this property.

Um with the elevations and design standards that are being utilized, these would be higher value uh properties, which help protect the existing neighborhoods and properties as far as their values.

It's meant to design to enhance the adjoining community, not be a detriment uh to that as far as property values.

Has the traffic study been done yet?

Due to the low expected volume with only nine residential uses, a traffic impact analysis was not required for this project.

Uh we generally use about 10 vehicle trips per unit.

So with nine units, that's about 90 trips, and a vehicle leaving the site is considered one trip, a vehicle coming back is an additional trip.

So there's only about 90 vehicle trips expected with this proposal.

The threshold for traffic impact analysis is in the 250 to 300 range of 41 is warranted.

Okay.

Because the amount of square footage that you said was being um used to build these units seem like a lot to have just one person in each unit driving back and forth.

So if you're using that as your traffic analysis, it doesn't seem to be sufficiently accurate.

Only one person per unit is how we count traffic now.

Yeah, we would expect approximately 10 vehicle trips per unit.

Okay.

A day.

That could be two or three people or four people or so forth, but that's the stand the baseline standard we use per residential unit is approximately 10 vehicle trips per unit.

So it'd be about 90 total for the entire project.

Per unit per unit of time.

What how what's the unit of time on these 10 trips?

That's throughout the day.

The day round correct.

All right.

I have one more question.

I think it's for Corey.

Um are we using the new setbacks or the original from didn't we do some work last month about setbacks?

Uh this would not be impacted by anything we did last week about lot size or setbacks, no.

Okay.

So this would still be under the current rules we have for setbacks.

Because it seemed like a lot of stuff is gonna be happening on a very little bit of space.

So I wanted to ask that question as well.

Um let me see.

Oh, the easements.

So um storm water and all of that, everything's gonna be happening in that one location as far as easement is concerned.

Correct.

This is approximately two-acre uh property.

Okay.

Duplex and okay.

I think I'm done for now.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any additional questions?

Yes, Commissioner Samuels.

Hello, thank you for the presentation.

Um I'm just trying to wrap my head around the thinking.

There's one single family single standing home.

And uh you said that one would be about three three thousand three three thousand square feet.

That is correct.

Okay.

Um, what would be the asking price at that property around about I would have to defer to the applicant or owner uh of the property when they give that uh their um I was just remarks.

Um I'm not a realtor or professional, I know it will probably be uh above my pay grade.

Okay, all right.

Um I was just thinking because I I see I I'm thinking if I were someone who were looking to purchase a single family home and then I have two duplexes.

I I just I'm just trying to wrap my head around a single family home and two why not just single family dwellings, and that may I I'm just trying to wrap my head around that.

Um understanding that because if the duplexes would possibly uh I know they're not going to be the same price as the single family home.

I'm just trying to understand that thinking and and that logic of how they came up with that, and that may be a question that I refer to them.

Thank you.

Okay.

Any other questions for Seth?

Commissioner Griffith?

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um I understand that there may be a uh HRT bus shelter in the vicinity, if not on the easement of the property.

Well will that be impacted by this development?

I would have to defer to traffic and engineering in uh public works that deals with HRT as to any relocation or any easement for a proposed shelter as to whether that can be incorporated into this project.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Randolph.

And if the applicant is here and would like to speak, will you please come to the podium?

Good afternoon.

Uh my name is Curtis Cole.

Um I'm a former uh civil engineer for the City of Portsmouth.

Um if your concerns was about the uh BMP uh best management practices, uh we will do uh we will make sure that the the BMP that we put in will not impact or have any kind of major impact on the existing uh drainage.

Um responsibility with the city of Portsmouth is I used to design the storm drains that roads, the streets and bridge repair for the city.

Um I'm currently uh a commissioner in it for the city of Norfolk and under uh real estate review board.

I've been doing that for about 20 years for the tax assessments for the city of Norfolk.

Um we will do and we have been working with the city and whatever uh we do not want our project to impact the community.

Uh initially, I think you heard Mr.

Randolph say we wanted a a higher density for the project, and so uh we uh uh sort of negotiated, I guess, for lack of a better word.

Uh we came to a concept of about nine units for the for the property.

Uh as he said, I don't think we're gonna have, and I did the tra did when my designs went out to design the roads for the city of uh Portsmouth.

We did have to look at the uh the traffic counts and and so on and so forth.

And like he said, I don't think that there's gonna be any major impact on traffic there.

We do have good egress and uh ingress into the property, you know, the property uh and I think it's going through the uh traffic reviews, and they didn't see a problem with it as well.

This project has been ongoing for about three years now, so we have uh pretty much when I say uh turn it upside down, flipped it and everything else, and so we really have been working with the city to make sure that we comply with the city wishes.

Uh the concept of uh of uh single family and and the uh and the townhouses, you're right about uh they are not gonna cost the same, but I don't think it's gonna have uh a major impact.

Uh the values of the houses will reflect the size as you as you know when it comes to tax assessments.

And so uh we came up with nine nine units, and I don't think we're gonna be again whatever the market will uh bear, that's what we're gonna do.

And we're anticipating it to be in the uh mid to high threes up to the the low fours, and so uh we go on from there.

If you have any other questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them for you.

Any questions for the applicant?

Mr.

Coles, I have one question.

Um is there any kind of um buffer or separation around your development?

Is there going to be fencing or vegetation to separate it from the yards that share a property line?

Uh that's yet to be determined with the city.

We're still in the process uh of once if it's approved, we will do whatever uh the city says um we want to be a good citizen as well, and so uh we are the developing those things then with the city and and their requirements.

So uh there will be a decorative fence around the uh the BMP uh you know area there.

So uh we we were hoping to have a larger turnout for the community meeting, and again, we want to be a good citizen and uh uh we will uh protect this uh the property and whatever uh we come up come up with, we intend to uh provide that.

And I I have uh one additional question about the tree canopy that um Commissioner Griffith referred to earlier from the illustration, it it does look like the development is going to take up the entirety of the lot.

Do you anticipate being able to save any of the trees that are there currently?

I I know that you'll be planting native Virginia bushes and and and small trees with with the project.

I saw that in the in the package, but um do you anticipate being able to save some of the larger trees that are there?

Again, until we get the complete topo and and everything, that is our plan.

Uh where possible, we do plan to keep as many trees as we can.

Uh okay, thank you.

Any additional questions?

Thank you, sir.

This is a public hearing, so I will open the public hearing.

Are there um people signed up to speak?

Yes, we have three.

First being Jack Claude.

I'm Jack Claude with Harvard Urine Associates.

We're the ones that put together this concept plan.

We anticipate doing the engineering plans as soon as we get through council.

I think it's a nice little project, and if you have any questions at all, I'll be more than happy to answer them.

I think Jay did a great job presenting us, and we'd like to have him on all of our projects in the future.

Thank you.

Commissioner Coleman, do you have a question for the app for the speaker?

Yes, sir.

There's a question for you.

Certainly.

We haven't gotten there yet, as opposed to us having gotten all of the things that are usually required, particularly when we are considering these types of projects.

Yes, so what we try to do to prevent the developer from having to spend a huge amount of money in engineering, because engineering costs 40 years ago were pretty low.

They're like everything they've gotten really out of hand.

And so for us to go through that level of design and then go to council and and for whatever reason be turned down, and that would just be a huge amount of money gone to waste.

So what we try to do is we put together a preliminary that shows a project that we're comfortable you guys can approve, and we're very comfortable that we can design it to city standard.

We recognize we'll have to go through the full review process.

Um and you guys have a lot of stuff in place.

And I think somebody asked a little bit about uh setback lines, and that's why we have those shown on that drawing uh to show that all the buildings are within those city standard setbacks.

Um 30-foot frontage, 15-foot sides, whatever they are.

Um so the stuff that really doesn't cost anything, we do the stuff we know is going to be expensive.

We we hold off and and we're able to talk through it now.

And and like you say, if you have any questions, oh, we're happy to answer those with regard to the big trees and the landscaping.

Um we don't have a landscaper on staff, we have to go hire that to be done.

We do when we come as a first step of design, we will uh do a topographic survey of the site that'll show all the existing trees.

Then we'll be able to apply that to this to show which trees we have to cut down, which ones we can save.

The arborist will come out, look at the ones we can save and say, yeah, these two are dying.

Let's go ahead and cut those, the rest of them we can keep, and then he'll design his landscape plan around what's left.

Submit it, your staff will review it, adjust it, review it, adjust it until we get it exactly right.

And that goes through every facet of the engineering process.

Uh it was mentioned before on the BMP.

Um just the BMP design itself is a week, week and a half design process.

We'll submit that.

Your staff will review it.

There will be adjustments.

The state looks at it.

Everybody gets their shot at it, but at a week and a half of engineer time, it's an expensive item.

That's why we hold this stuff off until we're comfortable we're we're spending good money after good instead of good money after bad.

Well, I'd like to be comfortable making good decisions after good, so that's why I ask what I ask because I know over the course of time.

I've seen a lot of applications over eight years.

And we usually are like what are you gonna do to buffer the property from back bug neighborhood or whatever it is that backs up to it.

So if you guys are saying we haven't done that part yet, how am I gonna feel comfortable saying okay, they're gonna do that and recommend something that I have not completely seen the entire plan because if I was the house, any of those houses, and then you guys are like, well, we're not doing the landscaping part, it costs too much.

I would have a problem with that.

That's not the answer.

That's what it sounded like the answer was.

The answer is we haven't done it yet.

We do recognize it.

There are requirements, and it will be reviewed by your staff.

Your staff will require us, or they won't approve the plan.

They'll require us to do whatever is is required.

We will do that and put all of that on the plan.

Um I'm a planning commissioner in Southampton County.

Matter of fact, I'll be on tonight.

Um, and I understand fully what you're talking about.

I I do the same thing.

We just we can't give you a complete design at this level.

Um we can give you a good design and we can explain what the where the shortcomings are and what where our intentions are.

We intend to fully design this property just like everybody else.

Okay.

Everybody doesn't, and that's why I asked.

I understand.

So okay, we we can end this debate right now.

Any other questions?

Thank you, sir.

I'll be right here if you need me.

Excuse me, I don't know if this is proper or not, but we intend to about if you read the proffer proffer.

Um we have to meet, we still got a lot of meetings with the city.

So there's still gonna be a lot of design required of whatever it is.

We will meet whatever the city requires.

And so is although we don't show it, if the city says uh it says in the proffer that uh we have to meet this is not a final design or whatever have you there, is that we understand that we have to meet and we're gonna be developing those plans some more.

So then I can attest being uh one of the uh members of the the cooperation and and the managing member, we are going to uh satisfy the city's desires or whatever.

That's our so we're not gonna say we're gonna do do something and then don't do it.

I've I've never done that in my career.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

All right.

The next speaker we have is Ryan Mueller.

Hi, how are you doing?

I am the owner of the property next to it, 1774 Buckrow.

We do share uh we don't share the we have a property line that has pine trees that are on the property.

My questions basically are is this to scale?

Um to represent exactly what's gonna happen.

Also, there is a lot of deep rooted vegetation that is big trees, deep roots.

If we're gonna be putting asphalt and basically sidewalks everywhere, where is that runoff gonna go?

Because his property does flood as well as mine does, and if there is any elevation difference and I become the lower elevation property, all of that water is gonna come running into my property.

Uh the second concern is my privacy.

I have the trees, I have the canopy.

I mean, I have an empty lot next to me, yes.

Now I'm gonna go to nine different residents living next to me, plus a public parking street and a sidewalk, a public sidewalk that are directly next to my property that weren't zoned for there.

Um so if we have access, if we have public parking that's gonna be out there, they basically have direct access to my property, no matter who it is that parks there, it could be the residents or a friend or neighbor or just somebody parking there.

Is there going to be a fence that's going to be put around that would guarantee my privacy and the people that are around us?

Um then uh what the vegetation is gonna look like.

Um, because we have like I said we have like six, seven trees that provide canopy for my house, and it's wonderful.

Um but if we go with the sidewalk that goes up to that property line, those trees are going to be in there and they will be cut down.

Um the flooding, the timeline, and just going from having a potential of one neighbor next to me.

Now I will possibly have nine different households next to me in the property that was only stationed for one when I bought.

I mean, been living there for five years.

I've communicated with uh Mr.

Curtis uh when we had fallen trees fall into my property.

So you know, really with them.

He told me about the property a little bit ago.

Um but I'm mainly really concerned about the flooding and the free access if it's just a sidewalk put next to my property that would not normally be there, and people being able to park and just run in and run back to their car without any barrier.

Um, and I think that's pretty much all of my concerns.

So thank you.

I just I just wanted to clarify a couple of things.

So typically, once these applications go through the rezoning or use permit process, if they are approved, they still have to go through a substantial amount of other like site plan reviews, there's other permitting reviews, and it's during that site plan review or subdivision review where we're gonna look at take a deeper look at things like the best management practices for stormwater.

Our engineering folks are gonna make sure that the BMP that's put in place is gonna be sufficient for the site.

They're gonna make sure they're gonna look at the elevations, they're gonna look at all of those things to make sure that the uh adjacent properties aren't gonna have a negative impact on it based on you know water flow, impervious surface, those kind of things.

And additionally, like Jay said, things like the tree removal and those kind of things, those are all regulated through our um land disturbance permit process, so that we have a lot of things in place that these applicants will still have to go through that to where we're gonna ensure that those things are done in an appropriate manner.

Um so I just wanted to make that note.

Thank you.

Is there anyone else signed up to speak?

Uh yes.

We have one more, and that is Joy Borehill.

Sorry if I said that wrong.

Sorry, everyone does.

Hi, I'm so glad I saw this on next door.

That's how I knew about this.

I didn't know anything about any other meetings, so otherwise I'd have been here.

I live in that neighborhood.

I live in my okay.

Uh I live in Colonial Acres, and I know oh, sorry, one person who lives on Alexander.

I don't guess they're here today, but they are directly impacted by this.

Um I look around Hampton and I see I know we're looking at affordable housing.

I'm gonna try to talk really fast because then I only have three minutes.

Uh well, I know we need affordable housing.

I see it going up.

I also see trees being there's no tree left, there's no vegetation inside after they've done something to build houses.

There's one on old buck row where it's it used to have big trees anyway.

So I'm glad to hear you asking about tree cover and protecting trees and having uh vegetation between houses.

This is less than two acres, they're planning to do this with a major street.

And for everyone who's ever gonna have to write their address, please shorten Lieutenant Colonel to LTC.

Um, I don't know who that guy is.

Um, but couldn't it be a small one-lane sidewalk is nice, and maybe five houses.

These are this is less than two acres, and you're gonna put a lot of houses.

Where do kids play?

I guess in the street.

I don't know what the crosshatch part there is.

Um the single family house, I'm sorry, it's ugly.

Um, the rest of them, um, and I'd say it nicer, but I'm trying to hurry.

The duplexes all are absolutely cookie cutter.

Are they gonna be all the same color, exactly the same, like over um near Buckrow Beach?

They're all extremely similar, they have some different colors, but that's it.

That is not what the neighborhood looks like.

Um I'd love to see some kind of berm required between um Alexander and the other folks, like a berm that is required that is vegetation that is not disturbed.

Um, we know there's evidence that says when you have big trees, you have cooler temperatures, people save energy on their electric bill, you have cooler temperatures in terms of less police calls because people aren't so they're not gonna go off at each other because it's literally 10 to 15 degrees cooler in a place when you have a good tree cover.

I just read an article and I meant to bring it with me and was out and didn't bring it with me.

Um I don't um I know the developer says they're gonna do their best, and nothing personal, but I've never met a developer that I thought did the best.

I mean, I know they're looking at their bottom line.

Um if we can just have fewer houses, a small street where they can have it beautiful, it could be private with tree cover, then it makes a lovely environment for them and it doesn't disturb everything.

Um I don't know what the dimensions of the grass is there.

That's why I'm not sure like where do kids play, where where can it decide the street and why does the street have to be so big?

Um the um runoff area.

Will that be appropriate to waterfowl?

Um, you know, because protecting that is important too.

And if they're gonna plant grass, could they plant alternative grass that is more clover that you don't have to mow, it's drought resistant.

Virginia's in a waterhill, you're time's up.

Thank you.

Um I hope you hold them to account.

Thank you.

If there are no other speakers, then we will close the public hearing.

And um I will call for a motion for item number 26-022.

I move that the planning commission defer consideration of rezoning application 26-022 to a future planning commission meeting as determined by the directive of community development.

Second.

We have a motion and a second on the floor for deferral of item 26-022.

Commissioners, do you have any additional questions or discussion?

Commissioner Griffith.

Thank you, Chair Rogers.

Um I'd like to hear a little more.

Not necessarily today, no matter what where this ends up, because uh particularly about the the perimeter privacy that's afforded to the people that already live there in the adjacent properties because we are putting you know, under this scenario, um clustered housing in an area that is single family.

Um I understand that there's apartments across the street that is is uh you know multifamily and clustered, and that's great.

We get to know each other when we're closer together, but um the concerns that I heard today from people are that in this neighborhood that this uh parcel is located in the middle of uh are we affording them the the pro the privacy that they are uh accustomed to as landowners as property owners.

Um so moving ahead, I'd like to hear a little more about that as a commissioner.

Thank you.

Um any other comments commissioners would yes, yeah.

Um I think one of the things that would probably be helpful for staff um is and and I think um Commissioner Griffith just uh kind of outlined what his concerns are.

Um we've heard the concerns from the the folks in the neighborhood, but what specifically um you know do we want the staff to look at um when this comes back?

And and I understand the privacy um was one of the issues that you had mentioned.

Um I think the BMP is really you know that that's determined by and the flooding issues is determined from an engineering perspective, and you know, I think the BMP is gonna need to be appropriately sized to deal with the runoff that's generated.

So I'm not sure that that's really I think that's just that's a technical issue.

I'm not sure that there's anything that that staff would need to do to address that one because it's just you know it's it's kind of engineering and and calculations.

Um but um you know uh are there any other issues that when we defer this item that we will want staff um to address uh commissioner de Perfio just to riff off what you're saying, um I think it would be helpful to identify that and to that point um if development is is boxed into making for example a street with a certain um width, and it is and they're forced to put it up against the property line to the north, like that footprint is taking away all that that tree canopy.

There's you know they need to make the most room they can for the the houses, right?

So uh I get that that that's what they want to try to do, but that's also negative impacting the tree canopy, which was a major concern.

Uh so is that like something they can work with try to like to mitigate and and the staff can probably address the the the width of the street.

I'm suspecting that it was basically a vita eligible street width, right?

To be able to get Vita eligible reimbursement to maintain the street.

Otherwise, if they go below a certain width on the street, um the then uh then it really needs to be maintained by the private property owners.

That's probably what's driving that issue.

Yes, Commissioner Brooks.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I think it's an innovative concept, and I hope you don't think we're closing our minds to it, and we just want a little more information, but we want Hampton to have the best that we can offer.

And this is new and different, and I think with more information we'll be moving forward.

Who's to know?

I love this stuff.

I'll stand here all day and answer all the questions you have, and I'm happy to.

Thank you.

Um with regard to the landscaping and the buffering.

The minimum city standard buffer is 10 foot wide, and there are some specific tree requirements, large, medium, small.

Um, and then in the negotiations with the city arborist, we'll determine whether he wants us to have a 15-foot rear yard buffer and what our side yard and front yard buffers are.

And and so we'll kind of go through that process until we come with the best outcome, and that's what will end up on the approved plan.

Um in this particular case, I would kind of expect and and not knowing can't read the future, but I would expect we'd probably end up with a privacy fence, um, some shrubbery on the outside of the fence from us, you know, just so it's not just a board fence.

So shrubbery on the outside, and then on the inside on our side, there would be some trees and some more shrubs as well.

It's just kind of normal.

Now, occasionally that design gets adjusted through the arborist, and he's kind of looking at the entire neighborhood and what he thinks is going to be best.

A lot of times that would happen where that privacy fence would not be on the on the plan.

He would instead ask us to put in burns, decorative berms.

Um, those berms might be belt high.

Um it's just a bunch of landscape material, and it kind of adds some height to the shrubs, and and they tell us what they want.

I would kind of maybe expect to see that along uh Obuck Row.

The frontage would be kind of decorated in that manner.

Um, with regard to the large trees, we're still trying to keep those because we enjoy them just as much as everybody else, and we don't want to cut them down.

Um you did mention the road width, yes.

This is a 30-foot width, which does you know get the city to still get their maintenance money.

Um did I forget one?

I'm sorry if I did.

I think I think I forgot one item.

But if anybody else has a question, I'm happy to answer.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any other discussion.

Yeah, I would like to say uh deferring it if you read the proffer as the uh young lady said this is going to go through I don't know how many reviews or whatever if it is, but defer it is just gonna defer the reviews, and so it says on there that we're mandated to meet all the city requirements and we'll meet all the all the concerns, but we're looking just to be able to get to that next step to meet with the city to take care of all of your concerns and and so on and so forth.

You approving this is basically this approving us to go to the next step.

This is not a final design, we're not offering that as a final design, and the proffer clearly says is that we got to meet with all the departments, and we have to meet their uh desires or whatever have you there.

So uh to defer it.

We're not doing to me, we're not doing anything but deferring it.

I mean, we're still not getting to the to the root of the matter, and that's what I thought the next step would be when the when the proffer says that we're gonna meet with all the departments, we're gonna meet all of their uh uh requirements, and and so on and so forth.

So uh I would hope you don't defer it because deferring it is just like it's just gonna sit there on the desk.

I mean, it's not uh and and we want to move forward.

We we think we have a good product, and we think that uh uh we we're gonna be able to sort of enhance the city's uh uh uh coffers as well because we're gonna bring families in that are gonna pay taxes and uh and and going to generate to the uh the economy for Hampton.

So thank you, sir.

So I'm hoping you wouldn't wouldn't defer it, but let us move to the next step, and we'd get all those things that you're concerned about worked out.

I have a question for staff.

Um I understand the the notification process about the community meeting, those notifications are required by law and go out just one-tenth of a mile, I think.

Um of these lots are fairly big, so probably not a lot.

Colonial acres does have an hoa, I'm aware of if we approved this.

You know, we have had other developers who've worked with concerned citizens to address their concerns and and come to an agreement that is satisfactory to all the parties.

And I would feel more comfortable if representatives from Colonial Acres had an opportunity to be a part of a the conversation.

Um I will say so the city requirement is we do a tenth of a mile for notifications, but we did recently change the ordinance to say that the applicant must do a notification of a quarter of a mile for the community meeting.

So I do know that that was done.

Um so we did try to do a kind of a larger broader outreach in terms of that.

Corey, I'm not exactly sure what to say on the uh so if if you uh approved this rezoning or recommended approval of this rezoning today, um, we would have no practical way to ensure that that happened without probably preparing another set of proffers.

Or um so um the short answer is yes, um, but I can't guarantee you know what will what will come of that just because it would not be binding.

We've made a lot of 300 and eighty votes and and to to to the public to to the public we'll we've actually we've we we've actually I have actually um veered off of protocol for the comments when you've signed up to be a public speaker, you have three minutes.

We we we don't call from the audience if you hadn't signed up, and so I apologize.

I have let the developer um and and the attorney speak longer than that to answer the questions that the commissioners had.

We're not gonna be able to call on you all by raising your hands, so you know please don't ask us to do that because that would be out of order.

Um personally, I'm a little conflicted uh about this proposal.

Um, you know, everywhere you go, people are talking about the cost of housing duplexes have you know have have got to be more affordable than single family homes, certainly.

They're talking about making high quality market rate housing.

Um but I hear the concerns of the residents um, particularly having a new street adjacent to their property.

That's a little bit different than just having a house next to their property.

Um I I am conflicted about I am personally conflicted about what's the right direction to go.

Commissioner Griffith?

One second, uh your sentimental that because what I'm looking for is you know, to get everybody what they what they're looking for in a balance and uh in a way that you know keeps the character of the community.

So I won't I want these things to be addressed.

I just don't under that scenario that was described, just sit on a desk.

I don't want that to happen.

I want us to get where we need to go.

So if uh uh Corey, if you can advise on process, if that is indeed what would happen.

I don't think any of us want that to be the case.

We want to get to where we need to go.

So if you if you were to defer, I again we would we would want to clarify the direction you'd like us to take for for the next time we present it to you.

Um were you asking about if it were approved today, what would the process be from here?

If it was deferred today, it was deferred today.

Um like I said, uh if you if you gave us clear direction about what you wanted to see, um I would advise Kim and she would, you know, work with her staff to try to negotiate those changes with the developer.

Um I don't know how much play there is in the joints, so to speak, um, but that that's what we could do with that time.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yes, Commissioner Coleman.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I think to answer Corey's question, um myself, I would want clarity on what we've been discussing for the last 15 to 20 minutes, which is boundaries.

Where the boundaries going to be that say this side is uh the new part, that side is the old part, and that they're kind.

I mean, not concrete literally, but you know, there are boundaries in place.

And also um I did ask about the traffic study, and I got a response about the traffic study.

I know that property sits like right near that curvy spot, because my brother-in-law lives on a street on the other side, right at the curvy part, and then that property is on the other side of the road.

So the traffic part I know is tricky to navigate because I do it.

Um is there a possibility that the number of units could change during this deferral?

Can they say we want to put more units, or have you guys limited that to the number of units that are on this diagram?

Because right now we're just talking about rezoning the property, but there's a plan in place for how the property will be used already based on us rezoning it.

Um but it doesn't say in any of our rezoning rules that they have to put no more than, or is there a per acre amount of properties or units that can be built?

So the the proffers that were they're in your packet specify the number of units.

Um it is possible to redraft the proffers upon the developer's agreement.

Yeah, that's the part I was wondering about because right now today we have a proposed plan or semi-plan in front of us, and if we defer it, which we should, then I want to know specifically what we're going to be voting on because as you said, the proffers can change at this point.

If we defer you guys go back and do some more work, or the team does work, then it comes back with some different proffers, different design, different whatever.

Because right now, this is like one of the few projects I suspect that you know has asked to rezone the property because they want to do something, but we haven't seen what they want to do.

Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't.

This one has a concept, but we don't know that this concept will be the finished product.

So I think what I want to see is what the finished product is that is being requested, including all of the stuff.

That's basically it.

And I heard that it costs a lot to do all of the stuff from the representative.

So what how do we make sense or logic of voting on this with confidence and not feeling like we stuck the people in Colonial Acres up and have them manage at the plan commission?

And city council.

I believe the level of detail that you're talking about, part of that would be uh essentially handled as part of the site plan process, um, which does typically happen after the rezoning.

Um it it could happen the other way theoretically.

I don't imagine the developer would want that kind of investment, but it is possible.

I I think in the past when we've dealt with these issues, you know, we we've identified certain things, like one of the issues that has been identified in this, and I think I remember an apartment um development up in the northern part of the city where we had identified you know, concerns about the buffer or some of the surrounding properties, and so I think at this point historically we've we've more focused on okay, you know, if if the concern is that we want to better understand or have a fence, I think that's one of the things that was discussed, and that's one of the things that was discussed several months ago on another project is we want to have a fence between this apartment complex that was um gonna be developed again.

I think it was um you know further up in the and or by Langley.

Um and so we basically said, well, we we'd like to have this you know, in terms of a buffer for the neighborhood.

I don't think we've ever required a um developer to go through the entire site plan process and uh permitting approval process prior to a rezoning.

Um, you know, uh I I think that's you know unusual.

I don't know that we've ever done that.

I think we at this point um our focus has been what are the proffers associated with the um with the development that addressed the needs that we think needs to be addressed to be able to make a recommendation to council at this point it seems to me that staff has heard our concerns, developers heard our concerns, the neighbors have heard our concerns, staff is saying those concerns will be addressed.

Um frankly, in in the majority of plans that I've seen since I've been on council, there have been more details around the perimeter.

But we also don't want to create a larger hardship.

And to Tracy's point, it's it's not necessarily that we're opposed to what's being proposed.

But our concerns have been stated in public and in front of some of the neighborhood representatives.

And so I guess at this point we need to consider the motion.

So we have a motion on the floor to defer.

Um do we have a second?

Did we get a second?

And we have a second.

So if our discussion and and questions are wrapped up, are we ready to Madam Chair?

Yes.

Um just for the purpose of the minutes, and so we are clear.

Um I just wanted to make sure.

So what we have been asked to look at is either fencing or vegetative buffer between the new development and the existing homes, um, as well as what of the tree can it be can be preserved.

Is that correct?

And I'm I'm particularly concerned about that.

Um the the where the new street is going to meet private property.

I would really like for there to be a satisfactory um for that.

You know, it's one thing to have property next to you rezoned from single family to multifamily, it's another have a street that's next to your property.

So I would really like for that customer customer to be satisfied with what's going to protect his privacy.

Yes, Commissioner Samuels.

And it was also one other Corey.

Um, the the flooding mitigation, if that could be addressed with a little bit more specificity.

Understood.

Commissioner Coleman.

Yes, and also the traffic study if you guys have not done that yet.

I I've noted that.

Okay.

Commissioner Brooks.

So just in terms of process, these items that have been cited will be addressed when we're asking the um the gentleman to come back again, or are they on the record for whether this moves forward or not?

I'm just not sure where we are.

So I think I think staff now has clear direction.

We will take that direction and we will work with the developer to see if we can you know meet uh we can we can get a product that meets your expectations, and we would present it to you again.

I assume next month so with the motion on the floor to defer a vote of aye would be to defer the proposal, a vote of nay would be to not defer it.

So if we are ready, then please call for the vote.

Commissioner Samuels?

Aye.

Commissioner Griffith, aye.

Commissioner Brooks, aye.

Commissioner Coleman, aye.

Vice Chair Muggler, Commissioner DeProfio.

Aye.

Chair Rogers.

Aye.

That motion carries.

We will move along to the next public hearings, which is number 26-0218.

Um, yes, director.

Thank you.

All right, so the next two public hearing items will be held together in one presentation.

The first being the one you mentioned, 26-0218.

This is a rezoning application by Old Town Development LLC.

To rezone the parcels located at 1534, 1538, and 1540 West Queen Street, respectively, encompassing approximately 5.5 acres of land from multifamily residential MD4 district with conditions and one family residential R 13 district to multifamily residential with conditions for a multifamily development.

Additionally, use permit application number 26-0219 by Old Town Development LLC to allow for the development of 68 multifamily dwelling units within the multiple residential MD4 district located at the 1534, 1538, and 1540 West Queen Street.

Here to present on behalf of staff is Chief Planner Donald Whipple.

Thank you.

It's just uh mentioned this will be a combined uh presentation for rezoning application 26-0218 and use permit application 26-0219 by Old Town Development.

Specifically to rezone approximately five and a half acres from multifamily residential MD4 district with conditions and multifamily or excuse me and one family residential R13 district to multifamily MD District MD4 district with conditions for a proposed multifamily development.

And also a use permit is required, an approved use permit is required for multifamily use.

As indicated by the red star, this is the location of the property as it relates to the overall city of Hampton.

And zooming in, this is as outlined in blue.

These are the three parcels that are the subject of the rezoning use permit located near the intersection of Power Plant Parkway and West Queen Street.

Just a little bit of site history in 2020.

The property, two of the parcels, 14 1540 and 1538 were rezoned from R13 and RM to MD4 with 12 proper conditions to develop a multifamily project by the same developer.

At that time, the use permit was not required for the multifamily use.

This new proposal with the additional land now includes 64 total units, 36 of which would be are proposed to be one bedroom units.

Is directly to West Queen Street with pedestrian connections throughout the site.

There is enhanced landscaping proposed along the eastern and western site boundaries and approximately 99 parking spaces.

Additional aspects of this proposal includes community meetings, community meetings, community amenities, including a mulched walking path that would lead to the New Market Creek.

Stormwater detention would occur underground underneath the proposed parking area, and there would be two level two EV charging stations.

This is the concept plan as shown here.

This is West Queen Street, the primary entrance here into the parking area and the circulation around the site here.

And then the we don't have the full scope of how deep these lots are, but this is the uh the mulched path, proposed mulch path that would lead down to the creek to allow residents to either just enjoy the water or to perhaps launch a kayak or canoe.

This is the main entrance to the building here off of the parking lot, but there's also an entry point where residents could access directly out to there's a sidewalk connection here as well as sidewalk connection here that leads to the street sidewalk.

These are uh the building elevations.

The top one is what would be facing what you would see from West Queen Street.

Uh this is the rear elevation uh which was uh faces the rear of the property, and these are the two long sides of the building.

Uh the bottom one is the side that you would see from the parking lot.

This is the main entry point here with this uh covered uh pergola uh here, and then this is the side that would be facing uh the western property boundary.

And just incidentally, all the all the materials are uh either brick and or stone, and then all of the accents or some type of cement fiber board uh panel system, horizontal siding or uh shake siding and vertical siding.

Uh this is the zoning map, uh, which is as mentioned reflects uh these are the two parcels that were subject of the 2020 uh rezoning where the properties were rezoned to MD4, and this is the new property that is currently zone R13.

The future land use map from the Hampton Community Plan shows uh the recommendation is for high density residential for this uh for these sites.

Uh it also speaks to building design encouraging building design and site planning that uh is fitting for the community, as well as promoting efficient use of land in high quality urban design.

Additional policies with respect to housing in neighborhood uh speaks to uh encouraging increasing the housing supply with a diversity of uh housing types from economic development standpoint, uh promoting uh successful development uh and uh of well situated excuse me, vacant and underutilized properties in respect to resilience, prioritizing and protecting the natural systems uh as well as promoting access to the water.

There's uh quite a bit here with respect to uh conditions that the applicant is proffering.

Uh the development would be limited to uh 68 units.

Uh there would be uh all the parcel internal parcel lines would be vacated.

There's the concept plan, including the mulch walking path and light landscape guidance.

There's more specific.

Uh I mentioned that there would be enhanced landscaping on the east and west sides of the property boundary.

There's extensive language in the proffer about uh how that landscaping is is to occur.

Uh there would be screening of the HVAC systems, um, the building elevations and specific building materials are being uh proffered, as well as fencing materials, screening of the parking lot and the actual dumpster enclosure, as well as the uh providing the EV charging uh stations that were mentioned, as well as site lighting.

This is also a use permit uh condition that we're considering today for uh the multifamily use and those uh conditions.

What most of the site development uh conditions are within the proffer, so uh the use permit conditions uh refer to those proper conditions, compliance with that, but from an operational standpoint, making sure that there's one-site management uh during set uh days and hours, there's uh requirement for a security camera, and then of course our compliance with uh standard laws and maintain or obtaining uh certificate of occupancy.

There was a community meeting that was held in May, uh, and there were a number of uh folks that uh attended and mostly just asking questions about uh the proposal, such as you know how many units there were going to be and how many parking spaces and the nature of the building and how uh traffic was going to be addressed, whether the project was low income, which it is not, it's a market rate uh development, and then asking questions about landscaping and drainage and flooding.

With respect to staff analysis, uh this uh proposal certainly does align with the city's policies.

It is compatible with the future land use map.

It's a uh good redevelopment of underutilized vacant site and adds needed residential units to the community.

Uh it would be compatible with a residential community by through the quality design and quality uh use of building materials.

It's adjacent to other apartment communities along uh West Queen Street there.

It's providing good pedestrian connectivity, there's enhanced landscaping as well as appropriate screening of the dumpster as well as the HVAC units.

So, with that, uh the applicant is here, doesn't have uh formal presentation, uh, but is here to answer any specific questions you may have about his proposal.

Um, and after the public hearing uh staff is recommending approval of rezoning 26-0218 with the 18 profit conditions and recommend uh recommending approval of use permit number 26-0219, subject to eight conditions.

That concludes my presentation.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you have of me at this time.

Thank you, Mr.

Whipple.

Questions for staff?

Yes, Commissioner Coleman.

Thank you.

Yes, um, Mr.

Whipple, could you pull up the diagram again?

Of the concept plan?

No, of the location.

Oh, so this piece of land is across from the high school.

Okay, so this piece of land is across from the high school.

Uh the high school is right here in the lower right corner here where the north arrow is.

That's just the edge of the high school property.

Okay.

Dokay.

I remember this property.

Is this one?

Have we seen this one before?

Uh were you here in 2020?

I was indeed.

Yes.

You would have seen it then.

Same one.

It was just the two of the three parcels at that time.

That's the reason why it's back is to add the third parcel to the development.

Okay.

So the houses are coming down and all of that stuff we talked about.

Yeah, I think uh one of the homes has been removed on 1540, 1538, the house is still there, and 1534, the house is still there.

Okay.

The former houses, they're bacon right now.

Um I have one more question.

Sure.

Did the traffic study change any, especially with the cameras and everything that's going on down there?

It did not uh change anything.

Uh it's actually it it improved from the previous um unfortunately my words are right over top of this.

There is it's a four-lane uh divided road, but that um raised median ends roughly around here where the E is and so in the former presentation or the former uh the access, you actually had to do kind of a uh U-turn type of a thing to get access to property.

The main access point now uh has uh an existing left turn lane, if you will, to get into the property, and so the TIA um there was an extensive TIA that was done, and but there were no improvements that were recommended.

The it was found to be satisfactory.

The existing conditions were satisfactory to accommodate the proposal.

Thank you.

Anything else for staff?

Yes, Commissioner Griffith.

Thank you, Mr.

Whipple.

That was good.

Um I just wanted to see.

I guess we don't have an overlay with Chesapeake Bay protection area on it for this.

I don't in my presentation, uh, but it pretty much follows.

You see this tree line here.

Um all of this is within the buffer.

Um, but the line does kind of come at an angle like this.

Actually, it does it is on the concept plan.

I apologize.

Let me go to that.

The line is right here.

Uh this is the actual wetland line, and then the RPA line goes right through here, so they're staying completely, none of the new development will be within it, with the exception of a mulch pass with his, which is why it's mulched.

It's not paved or gravel or anything, because it's uh it's a good trade-off where the disturbance is very minimal, but it's the trade-off is that you're allowing people to enjoy the buffer in and access the waterfront.

And at this stage does staff get into a granular granular level with the developer about where the path of mulch leads to and what is at the end of it.

Uh and how that how that might disturb anything at the end of it.

Yeah, I mean they because they're in wetlands, they have to take I mean great care and you know, and do the leaf path, least path of resistance because if not, it would have to be approved.

They've they've gotten an extensive, they've got their permit already by the Army Corps of Engineer to do this development to assure that they're out that the intensive development is outside of the buffer and outside of the wetlands, but they are aware that permit is aware that there would be this mulch path going through there.

So if there hasn't, there's no like red flags or concerns about that at all.

Okay.

From the other federal state and federal agencies.

Right.

And if there was a kayak amenity put at the end of that path.

No concerns there about how that would impact natural shore.

Yeah, right now it's just uh, and the applicant can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it would just be from the shore.

There wouldn't be a hardened uh type of peer or anything, which they could do.

They would have to get like a special permit in order to do any type of formalized peer.

Not I believe last time we talked about it, he's not proposing to do that right now, but he could, but he would just have to get um the appropriate permits to do that.

Right.

Okay.

And uh completely different direction.

Was any uh bike amenities or um bicycling amenities like racks or anything discussed with a developer?

Uh we do require as part, and this would come up through the site plan process.

They would be required to do uh bicycle parking.

Uh it's in our zoning ordinance, and so um bike racks would be um provided per that for that requirement.

All right.

Um that's all the questions I have for right now, Mr.

Whippo.

I appreciate your time.

Sure, thank you.

Madam Chair, can I jump in with the clarification, please?

Uh the proffers as drafted uh require that if environmental approval of the the mulch walkway and the kayak launch is not possible if it would have adverse environmental effects, then they don't have to build it.

That's how it reads.

Thank you, Corey.

Anything else for staff?

Thank you, Mr.

Whipple.

And I understood you to say that the applicant did not have a presentation, but if we had questions if you have any specifics about the proposal, and he's here to answer any of those questions.

Commissioners, anything for the applicant?

Yes, Commissioner Coleman.

Yes, my question is regarding uh approval.

If we approve when it becomes approved, how long will it be before development and building actually occurs?

There have been some projects that have been approved and they're started, but they're not finished.

Yes, ma'am.

Um distinguished members of the planning commission.

Um the project would start within a year with upon approval from your from planning commission and city council.

Uh construction plans would start immediately on the site plan as well as the building plan, and the goal would be to break ground sometime in April of next year.

Anything else?

Thank you, sir.

Okay.

Um before I open the public hearing, let me just remind any speakers that when you come to the podium, please state your name for the record.

And you have three minutes to speak.

There's a timer on the large podium.

Green yellow says you have one minute left in red is when your time is up.

Director, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

We do not.

Then I will open and close this public meeting and um ask for a motion.

I move that the planning commission recommend approval of rezoning application 26-0218 for multifamily residential at 1534, 1538, and 1540 West Queen Street, subject to 18 profit conditions as contained in the agenda packet.

And recommend approval of use permit application 26-0219 for the same development, subject to eight conditions as found in the agenda packet.

I second we have a motion and a second for approval of item 26-018 and use permit 26-09.

219.

Is there any additional discussion, Commissioners?

If not, will you please call the roll?

Commissioner Samuels.

Aye.

Commissioner Griffith.

Commissioner Brooks.

Aye.

Commissioner Coleman.

Aye.

Vice Chair Muggler.

Commissioner DeProcchio.

Aye.

Chair Rogers.

Aye.

That motion carries.

Thank you.

The next public hearing item is number 26-0221.

This is a use permit by Canopy Development to permit 255 multifamily dwellings at 1044 von Schilling Drive.

This will be presented by Quinn Heinrich.

Good afternoon, Planning Commission.

Uh, once again, my name is Quinn Heinrich, and tonight I'll be presenting use permit number 26-0221, which is an application by Canopy Development to permit 255 multifamily dwellings at 1044 von Schilling Drive in the C2 zoning district and Coliseum Central Overlay.

This is located in the heart of Coliseum Central near the center of Hampton as indicated by the red star.

More specifically, it's located on the north side of Von Schilling Drive.

Uh to the north, immediately immediately to the north is the Peninsula Grove apartment complex.

To the east is more vacant part or several vacant parcels to the south is the Riverdale Plaza shopping center.

Um immediately to the west is a Verizon maintenance facility, and further west off the screen is Peninsula Town Center and Coliseum Drive.

Um as you can see by the image there, there used to be a building on that site.

That was the former Cinema Cafe, which has since been closed and was demolished at the end of last year.

So the parcel currently stands vacant.

In its place, the applicant is proposing 255 units.

There will be 38 of those will be studio units, 110 one-bedroom, 99 two-bedroom, and eight three-bedroom units.

These will be spread across three four-story apartment buildings, which will face Von Schilling Drive.

There will be a separate clubhouse with amenities as follows: a resort-style pool, fitness center, yoga studio, business center.

There will be grilling stations and park benches throughout the development as well as a dog park.

And there will be trash compactors located on the interior of the buildings.

The applicant is proposing several resiliency elements on the buildings, including cool roofs, energy star equivalent appliances, and bicycle racks.

There will also be four level two electric vehicle charging stations with the potential for also having solar-powered roofs on top of the chargers.

They propose to plant several trees, 75% of which will be native to Southeast Virginia.

They will have a BMP located to the east of the site for stormwater purposes, and they will also have 375 parking spaces which will be distributed throughout the development.

All this can be shown on or seen on the concept plan shown here.

You can see that the built the three apartment buildings, buildings one and three will be located, will have B in L shapes and will be facing Von Schilling Drive, and their close proximity to Von Schilling Drive is to allow for increased walkability and pedestrian orientation.

Building two will be located behind them, parallel to Von Schilling Drive.

And the clubhouse will be located at the corner of Enfield Drive and Von Schilling Drive to the on the bottom left of the screen, and that is to allow the site to be oriented towards Coliseum Drive and the all of the businesses there in a peninsula town center.

This is another visual of the concept plan that shows the dwelling units within the three main apartment buildings, as well as in the shaded area, the green area that will be located in the front yard.

Much of that will be enhanced landscaping.

Here's some of the building elevations, which shows some of the materials that will be used.

And this is a rendering facing along Von Schilling Drive facing northeast of what will be built one of the buildings at the corner.

The zoning of this property is currently C2, limited commercial, as is most of the surrounding area, except for the Verizon Maintenance Facility, which is C3, and the apartment complex to the north is RM.

It's worth noting that this parcel or that this proposal is for more dwellings that would than would currently normally be permitted in C2.

That is because the Coliseum Central Overlay has provisions to allow for increased density as well as waiving some other zoning requirements due to being within the Coliseum Central overlay.

The entire area, except for the apartment complex to the north, is designated as mixed use development within the our in the future land use map of our community plan, as shown on this map.

The community plan also has several land use policies that are relevant to the site, such as encouraging high compact and high density mixed use development where appropriate to create walkable communities and promote increased physical activity.

There are also several housing and neighborhood policies and economic development policies.

And then this parcel falls within the Coliseum Central Master Plan from 2015, which recommends the conversion of the Riverdale Plaza area from retail to mixed use development.

And it specifically recommends high density residential uses in this location on the north side of Von Schilling Drive.

Throughout Coliseum Central, the master plan also calls for residential development at dense scales and encourages pedestrian-friendly and transit-friendly development.

In summary, this proposal will add high-quality residential development to the Coliseum Central area and a lot of units of this high-quality residential development.

It complies very well with the Coliseum Central Master Plan and the Hampton Community Plan.

It makes efficient use of a vacant parcel and it will orient it towards the economic activity that can be found in on Coliseum Drive.

According to the developers, it will generate less traffic than the former Cinema Cafe that was located on the same site.

And it will help transform Von Schilling Drive into a more urban street with on-street parking, sidewalks, street trees, and street lighting, which will improve the connectivity and walkability of Coliseum Central as a whole.

Staff is recommending 21 conditions if this project is approved.

The complete conditions can be found in the package.

Some to highlight are the compliant that recommending compliance with the Coliseum Central design guidelines.

It will also, in addition to landscaping and resilience elements, we're recommending the applicant vacate the property line because currently this application is two parcels, and we're recommending them to combine those into one parcel.

We're also recommending security cameras along each of the parking areas, as well as compliance with all applicable laws, revocation, and nullification.

The applicant held a community meeting on June 15th, 2026.

One community member attended, and they asked a question about onset amenities, specifically whether or not the project would honor the former use of the cinema cafe by having some sort of movie theater or other film-related amenities.

And in conclusion, the applicant is here and has an opportunity to present after the public hearing.

Staff is recommending approval of use permit number 26-021, subject to 21 conditions.

Thank you.

And I am available for any questions you might have.

Thank you, Mr.

Heinrich.

Commissioners, questions for staff.

Ah Commission, yes, Commissioner Brooks, thank you.

Just a question.

Thank you so much for your presentation.

In terms of a crosswalk between the development and the current Riverdale property, how is that managed along Von Schilling, please?

I don't think that was something that we discussed.

I'll defer to the developers if they are familiar with that as well.

Um as far as I know, the because Von Schilling Drive is a private street, I'm not right.

I don't know if that no traffic lights or it's just pretty much across path because I would think there would be a lot of walking back and forth.

So that's just something for the future to consider.

Yes, I don't believe there will be a traffic light connecting to the Riverdale Plaza.

There's is one currently at the corner of Von Schilling and Cunningham as well as at Von Schilling and Coliseum Drives.

Great.

Thank you.

Anything else?

Thank you, Mr.

Heinrich.

And does the applicant wish to speak?

Sure.

Thank you.

Thank you all for your time.

Uh Board of Commissioners.

Uh my name is Hal Yule.

I'm a principal with Canopy Development.

Um I've got my partner Tim Culpepper here with me and Perry Frazier as well, also from uh Canopy Development and uh Gray Mason with Cox Cleaver, who's our architect who's prepared um our renderings and uh branding music with Timmins, who's our engineer on the project as well.

Um I would like to thank city staff for all their help.

We've we've worked in concert with them and responded to a lot of comments from uh city staff prior to uh this application, and uh I think Quinn did a fantastic job uh presenting um what we intend to uh develop here and and on on Von Shelling.

Um, one quick comment on the um crosswalk is uh Von Schilling is a private street.

Um the retail center that's directly across from Von Schilling.

That's sort of the the back of house entrance to that.

So I believe there's existing crosswalks on infield that we've got sidewalk connectivity to.

So instead of them walking to the back where there's loading and other things, I would anticipate if they walk down Bon Schilling and crossover on infield or vice versa, down to uh Cunningham to the east.

Great.

You know, we've this project is in an opportunity zone.

Um the building materials that we have um uh presented to you all.

There's there's no vinyl.

Um it's the class A materials were you know more than welcome to um ask Gray Mason to come up to speak to that.

It's I bring up the opportunity zone because we will have to maintain ownership in order to take care or take advantage of the tax advantages for 10 years.

So this won't be a merchant build where we put up something cheaply and and you know walk away.

We're we're looking to invest uh this project and hopefully many more in the city of Hampton.

Our offices are in downtown Norfolk, and we've got developments throughout Virginia.

So we we are we are local and and and residents here and want to be good stewards to the um to the community.

Um it's uh you know, we we it's a class A hundred percent market rate development um and you know we'll we'll meet the market with our rents and um are excited about the development.

And I welcome any questions you guys may have.

Thank you, Mr.

Yule.

Any questions for the applicant?

Yes, Commissioner Coleman.

Thank you.

Yes, I have a question.

Umits going to be reserved for short-term rentals?

Ewell any questions for the applicant question yes Commissioner Coleman thank you yes I have a question Um are any of your units going to be reserved for short-term rentals because you're in the Coliseum Central part of town and I think if clarification could come from staff regarding what the numbers are for the short-term rentals in that area you mean in terms of the current density of that area that I do not know off the top of my head, but I do not believe that that's it's an area that's full at this point.

Um so it could be a possibility if they meet the density and separation that they that that's a possibility.

Thank you.

Our intention is not to have short-term rentals.

Thank you.

Yes, Commissioner Samuels.

Hi.

Um, I'd just like to know what are some of your other projects.

You said you have other projects that are that you've done with some of the sure.

So we we've done um the principals of canopy together.

I've I've done six other multifamily projects.

Um two are in Chesapeake Cottage Trails.

Um there are two developments of oxygen and then Sapphire that are out in uh Chesterfield County, and then the most recent one is a project in um Richmond, Virginia, and the Innsbruck submarket called Metropolis.

Anything else?

Yes, Commissioner Griffith.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Sir, uh I was wondering to what extent, since this is in the Coliseum Central service area for the bid, like to what extent have the developers worked with Coliseum Central bid on uh the vision here well we we've we have followed all the ordinances there, but um when you when you say work with Coliseum Central, it's who do you mean?

Uh so the business improvement district uh entity that is responsible for the socioeconomic success of that area.

There's a service area that that you know responsible for potential town center area and the adjacent uh business community mostly, right?

Um but they've been around for about three decades now, and okay.

I would assume that they have an interest in uh a lot of residents coming into their area.

So I thought that you might be working with them in some capacity.

I was curious about that.

Well one comment I'll I've not we've not worked with that entity that you're speaking to, but um because we're on a private street and um the the property works off of an easement, we've had to get an e um an amendment to our easement.

Um and Kroger um had uh rights to review our plan and so does the adjacent uh retail center as well.

Um they've they've got rights through the reciprocal easement agreement that exists over this property, and they have all signed that amendment and have agreed to the plan.

So I you know the the immediate adjacent neighborhood um has sort of voice their opinions on our plan there.

Okay, thanks for expanding on that.

I appreciate it.

I I can't speak to the bid, but I you know I think that they're aware that the that this was being considered for a residential multifamily residential.

I I'll also mention that they're also the seller of the dirt, the the adjacent um retail center.

Okay, if there are no other questions, thank you, sir.

For thank you very much.

This is a public hearing, so we'll open the hearing.

Is anyone signed up to speak?

There are none.

All right, we'll close the public hearing and I'll ask for a motion Madam Chair.

I move that the planning commission recommend approval of use permit application 26-0221 for multi-family residential at 1044 von Schilling Drive, subject to 21 conditions as found in the agenda packet.

Second we have a motion and a second on the floor for use permit 26-0221.

Is there any additional discussion or questions?

I just have one comment.

I I drove back there to look at the property day.

I don't know if you all have been back there recently, but this is going to make such a difference in that area.

It it is very bleak back there now, and this is going to be a huge improvement on that space, and I appreciate that coming to our Coliseum Central area.

If there aren't any additional comments, then um please call for the vote.

Commissioner Samuels.

Aye.

Commissioner Griffith.

All right.

Commissioner Brooks.

Aye.

Commissioner Coleman.

Aye.

Vice Chair Muggler.

Commissioner De Profio.

Aye.

Chair Rogers.

Aye.

That motion carries.

Director.

Thank you.

The last public hearing item is 26-0226.

It's a use permit application by car farmer and sales to allow used car sales to operate at 690 Bell Street, LRSN 1002400.

This will be presented by City Planner Valerie Taylor.

I'm presenting use permit number 26-0226 at 690 Bell Street.

The application is a use permit for used vehicle sales in the C3 General Commercial District.

The site is located along the West Primbrook Corridor in as indicated by the Red Star.

Here's a more definitive view of the subject property.

The proposal is comprised of a used vehicle sales establishment in coordination with the applicant's existing light vehicle repair business, which combined will occupy approximately 3,500 square feet of an existing 5500 square foot building.

There will be a vehicle display area for up to 15 vehicles, and an anticipation of one or two employees with hours of operation from Monday through Saturday, 9 a.m.

to 5 p.m.

Here's the site plan showing the portion of the building which is highlighted in yellow that will be occupied by the occupant by the applicant.

The parking and display areas are highlighted in blue.

And here's a street view of the property from Bell Street.

In conclusion, um the applicant is present and does have the opportunity to present or answer any further questions that you may have, um, followed by a public hearing and staff does recommend approval of use permit number 26-026, subject to 11 conditions.

And I am available for any questions that you may have.

Thank you for your presentation, Miss Taylor.

Any questions for staff?

Okay, thank you.

And does the applicant wish to speak?

And uh I've been in business since two thousand three selling use cars.

Been at different locations, and this locations right here is where I'm trying to open up my next dealership.

And asking for approval.

So I can move forward.

Currently, I'm in Chesapeake Virginia.

And I live in Wainsburg, so trying to move closer to where I live, so I have to travel across the bridge every day.

Any questions for the applicant?

Okay.

Subject to eleven conditions as found in the agenda packet.

Is there any additional discussion or questions, Commissioners?

Being none, please call for the vote.

Commissioner Samuels.

Commissioner Griffith.

Commissioner Brooks.

Aye.

Commissioner Coleman.

Aye.

Vice Chair Mugler.

Commissioner De Profio.

Aye.

Chair Rogers.

Aye.

And that motion carries.

No.

All right, moving along.

Any items by the Commission.

Hi, and thank you again for tuning in to another episode of Fusion Fitness.

I'm your instructor, Alexis Perkins, and today with me I have the lovely D and the beautiful Christie.

Normally we do a higher impact workout, but today we're gonna take it down just a little bit because we want everybody to be able to participate.

Halfway through the workout, we're gonna do one high impact song, but it's just to give you one challenge, and then after that, we'll take it back down again.

So be sure to grab yourself a bottle water, a towel, and let's go ahead and get started.

We're just gonna start off with a nice little shoulder roll, take them back, back every other.

We're gonna go to a single double.

Single, single, double, single, single, double.

Single, single, double, single, single, double, change here.

One, two, and hold it.

One, two, and hold.

One, two, and hold.

One, two, and hold to the feet, forward and back.

Forward and change, forward, and back, forward and change.

Forward and back.

Change.

We're gonna go up tempo right here.

Here we go.

Quick.

Quick change.

Quick, quick, change.

Hold here.

Open chest.

Open it.

Lead with the hip.

Change size.

Open.

Open.

Lead with the hip.

We're gonna go straight into a basic salsa back.

Here we go.

Salsa back.

Hold here.

Keep it here.

We're gonna have a slight step to the right.

Here we go.

Roll.

Open chest.

Lead with the hip.

Rock.

Right.

Rock.

Rock and change.

Lead.

Step.

Hold here.

Shoulder rock.

Single.

Double.

Single.

Double.

Single.

Double.

Single.

Double.

Single and hold.

Single and hold.

Single and hold.

Single and hold with the beat.

Forward, back, forward, change.

Nice and easy.

Change.

Hold here.

Open chest.

Open.

Lead with the hip and rock.

And rock.

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Other side.

Lead.

Lead with the hip.

Rock.

Rock.

Rock.

Rock.

Again.

Bigger.

Open.

Open.

Open.

And lead push back.

Leap push back.

Lead push back.

Lead and change.

Big.

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We're getting ready to go to a salsa back right here.

Hold on, say, good job.

Let's keep it going.

Cross step.

Nice.

Cross.

Cross.

Cross.

Cross.

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All you need is picture.

We're gonna move forward.

Nice, easy.

Salt the back.

Back and back and back and back.

Take it up.

Once I make up my mind.

Take it back.

From the top.

Four.

Hold here and pop.

And pop.

And hip, hip, hip, hip.

Forward.

Nice and big.

Hold here.

Hip hip.

Hip hip.

And back, back, back, take it up.

Take it back.

Take it up.

Don't be afraid.

Step out and reach up for the sky.

Hold it.

And back, back, back, back.

Down.

Down.

Down.

Down.

Take it and hit.

And here.

And back, back, back.

Take it down.

Low.

Low.

Low.

Low.

Take it.

Take it up.

You've got it on your hands so you know.

Take it back.

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Don't be afraid to snap out and reach out for the sky.

Good.

Alright, here's our challenge song.

One up, tempo song.

And we're gonna go ahead and kill it, okay?

It's two, two.

Challenge yourself.

Push through this one, okay?

Here we go.

Out, out and pop, pop, pop, up, out, out, and pop.

Out, pump.

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I wanna see you move.

Don't get to sweat.

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Stop hesitating.

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Yep.

Working turn.

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Two steps.

Push.

Push lift.

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Get that knee up.

Only one high impact song today.

Let's work it.

Work it work it.

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Hip.

Hip.

Hip.

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Hip.

Hip.

Two steps.

Lift.

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Pump up.

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Two steps.

Push.

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Hips.

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Hips.

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Lift.

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It's out.

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Work it.

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Good job.

This is a beautiful salsa by Lao Raul.

You enjoy it.

Side.

Side.

Side.

Side.

Run across that.

Front.

Back.

Fine.

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Right.

Yes, Marcado, mi camino.

Front.

Aun stando contigo.

Yo soy tu amant.

Tu martirio.

Front.

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Quiero que te faltan.

Me hace.

Tengo mi miedo hasta de la ire.

Tengo ceros de tu vida.

Porque es mi propia vida.

Sous a four.

Here we go.

Muchos zeros.

Turn it.

Yo siento mucho celos.

One.

Muchos zeros.

Me passive.

Muchos ceros.

Back.

Turn.

Hey.

Fox to back.

And back from the top.

Front.

Back.

Front.

Four.

Fine.

Back.

Front.

Four.

Siento cellos de la brisa.

Y en la ira que mueve tu pelo.

Siempre los anelos.

Es que te quiero, te quiero, te quiero, te quiero, te quiero.

Ay, Dios.

Twist.

Great holding here.

The song right here is working on toning.

So we should get wide and low.

Okay.

Two steps.

Down.

Remember the deep.

Down.

Down.

It's two.

Get your mini boss to the big city.

Uh oh.

We're gonna have a change coming up.

Two steps.

Two.

Two.

Everybody press and judge up.

Perfect.

Two.

Two.

Everybody look for Rasta.

Two.

Four.

Everybody.

Then shoulders.

One, two, three.

Shoulders.

Down.

Children up to the chain.

The chin.

Two.

Now is the time to risk these two.

Changes.

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Children never dying, but your brother's up gone to trust.

Here we go.

Two steps.

Everybody pressing judge up.

You want to push that hip out?

Leave it.

Push.

Push.

Push.

Shove sign, run.

Lead the hip.

Out.

Pressure, run and wide.

Everybody pressing.

Four steps.

Come get my shoulders.

Come get the shoulders.

This is style is original style.

Get a little deeper.

We're gonna get ready to move these up.

Same thing.

Two up.

In a lamp.

We're live in us one shot.

Two take it back.

Back.

The heart hands back.

Back.

The inspiration of music we begin.

We latch.

Uh oh.

Back up kids last time.

Back to beating with that hip.

Two roll it.

Everybody pressing Jaja.

Everybody look for Rust.

Two time.

Push it out.

Push push it.

Push, push.

Run and wide.

Everybody press and judge out.

Four steps.

Shoulders.

We're gonna go right back to that hip loop.

Here we go.

Two time.

Two hip.

Hip hip.

Two time.

Two.

Hip hip hip.

Push up.

Good job.

Alright, we're gonna get ready to cool it down.

Have your feet shoulder width apart.

Have nice relaxed knees.

Posture up.

Pelvis tilted.

Nice inhale.

Right.

Exhale.

Come on.

Yesterday I walked alone.

But today have the miniatures I cry.

Cause the rain to fall.

What is it?

What was leg.

Shoulder rolls back.

The dreams are endless thoughts.

I can't recall.

We're gonna take one arm up.

Take it up.

But all the fall seem to be true.

Not one more.

Just take it back.

Just to control you.

Just control you.

Lady lady lady, let me be.

Breathe it out.

Cross the other arm over.

Grab the shoulder.

Life is a treasure.

Hold here.

Life is a treasure.

Life is a treasure.

But some of us shall life is soldiers.

Our life it is.

My life is sold.

I can control my ego.

Cross it over.

Press down, chin up, keep the chin up.

Come up.

Other way.

Cross.

All the nails of life.

Take it down.

Let that chin.

The weather force me fruit.

The street lights work me.

Nice and shutter.

We're gonna ledge down.

Press it down.

My eyes to the floor.

Can't reach to stay here.

Lift.

Other way.

Again, if you can't reach the floor, stay right here.

All the falls need to be true.

But one more dice.

Come up.

Just to control you.

Extend one heel.

Press through.

You should feel this along the back of your hands.

Life is the treasure.

Extend the other heel.

But some of us life is so on just lift.

I can't control my ego.

Take it over.

Around other side.

Down.

Around.

And up.

Relax the shoulders.

Down.

Around.

Uh, and up.

Down.

Around.

And up.

One more inhale.

Nice and easy.

Exhale.

Thank you again for tuning in to this episode of Fusion Fitness.

Please continue to work out as much as you can.

Physical fitness is your body.

You only have one of them, so take care of it.

Wanted to say thank you to Dandy D.

Bush, who produces most of our music along with Raoul Raoul, who contributed to our salsa day, and also Yanak, who does a lot of our reggae stuff.

So thank you again.

See you soon.