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Huntington Beach Planning Commission Approves Alcohol Permits for Sports Complex with Stricter Conditions

Planning CommissionTuesday, August 5, 2025
BodyHuntington Beach, California
SessionPlanning Commission
DateTuesday, August 5, 2025
StatusFILED
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Dr.

0:00

And the HUI, you know, they call it great book with our light friend Bob Yaling.

0:05

Yes.

0:18

I'd like to call the Planning Commission meeting to order.

0:22

Welcome to the August 5th uh 2025 Huntington Beach Planning Commission meeting.

0:27

While Planning Commission welcomes public involvement and free speech, it rejects rejects comments from anyone that are uh discriminatory, defamatory, or otherwise not protected speech.

0:39

These comments will not inform nor be considered by the planning commission, and they may cause the chair to interrupt the speaker.

0:48

Such comments will not be uh consented or otherwise adopted by the planning commission in its discussion and findings for any matter tonight.

0:57

Thank you.

0:59

All right, Pledge of Allegiance.

1:00

Uh, would like to call uh Commissioner Goldberg to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, please.

1:06

The new guy.

1:12

Pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to republic for which it stands one nation under the indivisible with the liberty of the crawl.

1:30

May we have a roll call, please?

1:34

Commissioner McKickie.

1:36

Here, Commissioner Pellman.

1:38

Here?

1:39

Vice Chair Bush.

1:40

Here.

1:40

Chair Thenis.

1:41

Here.

1:42

Commissioner Babanau.

1:43

Present.

1:43

Commissioner Palmer.

1:46

Commissioner Goldberg.

1:47

Here.

1:47

We have a quorum.

1:49

Okay.

1:50

Now is the time for public comments for items that are not on the agenda this evening.

1:55

Do we have any public comments for items not on the agenda?

1:59

We do not appear to have any uh public comments for items that are not on the agenda.

2:02

Alrighty then.

2:03

Uh next on the agenda is a public hearing for the appeal of zoning administration administrators' approval of conditional use permit twenty-five hyphen zero zero seven.

2:14

Planning commissioners, please state your disclosures regarding this item, and we'll start on my right.

2:21

Uh Brett Bush and Councilwoman Vandermark.

2:26

You spoke with them?

2:27

Yes.

2:30

I spoke with city staff, including um city attorney and um Jennifer Villa uh Nueva or Villa Senor, um, uh Mr.

2:43

Paul, who's the measure L person, and um let's see, uh and Chris Cole, and uh Councilmember McKeon and myself.

2:56

Obviously, that was one meeting, and then I spoke at the zoning administration meeting, so there, and then I spoke at the DR.

3:04

Well, I didn't speak officially at the DRB, but I did talk to some people there that were on the DRB.

3:10

Um, and then the only other person I talked with, Commissioner Palmer, and um Commissioner Thinnis, Chair, and um, and also council member um Williams, and that would be it.

3:29

Thank you.

3:33

I I know I have mine's much shorter.

3:36

Uh I talked to Dominic McGee and Councilman Chad Williams, and uh I spoke to uh Commissioner Pellman, Commissioner Babineau, uh Mayor Burns, and um Council uh no Mayor Pro Tem McKinnon and staff.

3:54

I spoke with Chair Thenis and Councilman uh Butch Twining.

4:02

Palmer.

4:03

I spoke with uh Commissioner Commissioner Pellman, uh Council Members Casey McKeon, Chad Williams, and Don Kennedy, and uh Parks and Community Services Commissioner, uh Jean Gene Paris.

4:24

I spoke with a uh Vice Mayor uh McKeon and I don't even remember who else I spoke with, but I did speak with one other.

4:33

I might have spoken to nope, that was it.

4:35

I think that's the only okay.

4:37

All right, uh staff.

4:39

May we please have a staff report on this item?

4:42

Yes, associate Planner Marco Cuevas will be giving the presentation.

4:47

Uh yes, uh good afternoon, Chair Thenus and Planning Commissioners.

4:50

Um the item before you is the appeal of the zoning administrators' approval of condition use permit number 25-007.

4:58

It's a Huntington Beach sports complex located at 18260 Golden West Street the request service and consumption of beer and wine that's an ABC type 41 license within a proposed approximately 5200 square foot outdoor dining area for an eating and drinking establishment with full table service at the Huntington Beach sports complex.

5:24

The subject site has a general plan designation of OSP which is open space park and is zoned OSPR which is open space parks and recreation subdistrict.

5:36

The site is located on the east side of Golden West Street between Talbot Avenue and Ellis Avenue with uh the outdoor dining patio facing existing baseball fields two and three with the closest residences located over fifty feet to the south here on the slide you could see the um aerial map showing the subject site along Golden West and the um the this is a close up of the actual um eating and drinking establishment that's within uh that park area there so as part of the site plan the site plan is for this location is on Golden West and it's approximately uh 5200 square feet um which includes an enclosed patio area with table service and includes a 48 inch high barrier fencing with restrooms accessible from outside of the dining area um so here at this on this slide you can see um the extent of the um outdoor dining area with um the perimeter fencing and um the barriers that are placed in there as well um for the uh 42 inch high uh fencing um the zoning administrator approved uh CUP 25-007 with conditions at the meeting on July 16th 2025 and was able to make certain findings those include um police department conditions regulating alcohol sales and service uh the condition for full table service in which guests will be served food and beverage at their tables and that alcohol is ancillary to eating and drinking establishment as far as the site and layout um the fencing um is conditioned to prevent passing of alcoholic beverages through the barrier and that the plan is revised to provide restroom access to the public subsequently an appeal was filed by Commissioner Pellman on July 23rd 2025 and the concerns cited uh for the appeal were that the new plans were received on the hearing date that's the zoning administered hearing date and that uh the public um the public questions were not uh addressed to the appellant's satisfaction uh on this slide we show the um site plan comparison so the image the slide image to the left shows the plan that um was initially um um um submitted um in um april 10th 2025 and the plan to the right is the revised plan that was shown at the zoning administrator hearing um as you could see what the areas that are clouded in the the red there in this area there um those show the revisions um which were recommended by the design review board um and which we include that the fence barrier um be included that would prevent uh unintentional entry into the patio dining area and allow for independent access to the restrooms and so once again the areas that are clouded here in the red these two sections are the areas that were revised um on the plan to comply with uh those recommendations um this next slide shows the renderings um of the proposed outdoor dining area which represent the general look and feel of the proposed outdoor dining outdoor patio area and the corresponding um improvements so um should the planning commission approve the proposed project?

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Um it may do so based on suggested findings and conditions of approval uh that the project complies with the general plan and zoning ordinance, that it provides an enhanced amenity within the Huntington Beach Sports Complex, that the use is ancillary to existing eating and drinking establishment and um the Huntington Beach Sports Complex, and that the conditions of approval have been incorporated to ensure safe um ensure safe service of beer and wine and compliance with all applicable laws and uh regulations.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Parks and Recreation██████████████████████████████████████████42%
Planning and Zoning███████████████████████23%
Public Safety█████████████████17%
Procedural███████████████15%
Youth Programs██2%
Economic Development1%
Summary of Proceedings

Planning Commission Meeting - August 5, 2025

The Huntington Beach Planning Commission convened on August 5, 2025, primarily to hear and deliberate on appeals concerning Conditional Use Permits for the sale of beer and wine at two outdoor dining areas within the Huntington Beach Sports Complex. The meeting was lengthy and contentious, with strong public opposition centered on safety and youth welfare. After multiple votes and deliberations, the Commission ultimately approved both permits but added significant conditions regarding security, barriers, and hours of operation.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Strong Opposition from Residents and Stakeholders: Thirteen public speakers, including longtime residents, youth sports league officials, and a tournament organizer, expressed unanimous opposition to allowing alcohol sales at the sports complex. Key arguments included:
    • Safety and Family Environment: Speakers argued the complex is a family-centric venue where alcohol is incompatible and increases risks of altercations, DUIs, and liability.
    • Negative Role Modeling: Multiple speakers shared personal stories of trauma and loss due to alcohol, emphasizing the negative message it sends to youth athletes.
    • Legal Concerns: Some speakers questioned the project's compliance with City Charter Section 612 (Measure C) and municipal codes, suggesting it required a citywide vote.
  • Conditional Support Suggestions: One speaker, while expressing concern over city liability, suggested that if approved, the permits should include strengthened conditions like defined "full service," dedicated security, solid barriers, and improved enforcement mechanisms.

Discussion Items

  • Appeal of CUP 25-007 (Golden West Street Location): Commissioners debated the project's merits and legality. Key discussion points:
    • Legal Interpretation: Commissioner Pellman and others argued the permit might violate City Charter Section 612 (Measure C) and zoning text amendments, requiring a public vote. The City Attorney's representative stated the office's opinion was that Measure C was not activated, as the project involved a permit, not a sale/lease of public land, and did not expand the building's footprint.
    • Safety and Design Concerns: Concerns were raised about the proximity to a children's playground (initially misstated as 150 feet, corrected to 15-20 feet), the safety of the proposed cable barrier for climbing, and the need for security.
    • Commissioner Positions: Commissioners expressed varied positions, from outright opposition based on principle and legal grounds, to conditional support if strict safety and operational conditions were added.
  • Appeal of CUP 25-014 (Talbert Street Location): Discussion mirrored the first item, with commissioners seeking to apply the same amended conditions.

Key Outcomes

  • CUP 25-007 (Golden West Location): Approved with Modified Conditions. After an initial tied vote (3-3-1, with one abstention) which would have upheld the Zoning Administrator's approval, a subsequent motion to approve with additional conditions passed 4-3.
    • Vote Tally: Ayes: Chair Thenis, Commissioners Babineau, Goldberg, Palmer. Nays: Vice Chair Bush, Commissioners McGee, Pellman.
    • Added Conditions:
      1. Security: The operator must provide dedicated security personnel.
      2. Barriers: Solid barriers must replace the proposed aircraft cable fencing.
      3. Consumption: Alcohol must be consumed at the table, not while walking around.
      4. Hours: Alcohol service limited to hours commencing no earlier than noon and ending by 10:00 PM.
      5. Access: Clear pedestrian paths using delineators must be created for children accessing walk-up snack windows without traversing the dining area.
  • CUP 25-014 (Talbert Location): Approved with Modified Conditions. After two failed motions (one to deny, one to approve with conditions resulting in ties), a third motion to approve with the same conditions added for item 25-007 passed 4-3.
    • Vote Tally: Ayes: Chair Thenis, Commissioners Babineau, Goldberg, Palmer. Nays: Vice Chair Bush, Commissioners McGee, Pellman.
    • Conditions: Identical to those imposed on CUP 25-007.
  • Next Steps: The Planning Commission's decisions are final unless appealed to the City Council within 10 calendar days.
  • Other Business: The August 12, 2025, Planning Commission meeting is anticipated to be canceled.

Meeting Transcript

Dr. And the HUI, you know, they call it great book with our light friend Bob Yaling. Yes. I'd like to call the Planning Commission meeting to order. Welcome to the August 5th uh 2025 Huntington Beach Planning Commission meeting. While Planning Commission welcomes public involvement and free speech, it rejects rejects comments from anyone that are uh discriminatory, defamatory, or otherwise not protected speech. These comments will not inform nor be considered by the planning commission, and they may cause the chair to interrupt the speaker. Such comments will not be uh consented or otherwise adopted by the planning commission in its discussion and findings for any matter tonight. Thank you. All right, Pledge of Allegiance. Uh, would like to call uh Commissioner Goldberg to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, please. The new guy. Pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to republic for which it stands one nation under the indivisible with the liberty of the crawl. May we have a roll call, please? Commissioner McKickie. Here, Commissioner Pellman. Here? Vice Chair Bush. Here. Chair Thenis. Here. Commissioner Babanau. Present. Commissioner Palmer. Commissioner Goldberg. Here. We have a quorum. Okay. Now is the time for public comments for items that are not on the agenda this evening. Do we have any public comments for items not on the agenda? We do not appear to have any uh public comments for items that are not on the agenda. Alrighty then. Uh next on the agenda is a public hearing for the appeal of zoning administration administrators' approval of conditional use permit twenty-five hyphen zero zero seven. Planning commissioners, please state your disclosures regarding this item, and we'll start on my right. Uh Brett Bush and Councilwoman Vandermark. You spoke with them? Yes. I spoke with city staff, including um city attorney and um Jennifer Villa uh Nueva or Villa Senor, um, uh Mr. Paul, who's the measure L person, and um let's see, uh and Chris Cole, and uh Councilmember McKeon and myself. Obviously, that was one meeting, and then I spoke at the zoning administration meeting, so there, and then I spoke at the DR. Well, I didn't speak officially at the DRB, but I did talk to some people there that were on the DRB. Um, and then the only other person I talked with, Commissioner Palmer, and um Commissioner Thinnis, Chair, and um, and also council member um Williams, and that would be it. Thank you. I I know I have mine's much shorter. Uh I talked to Dominic McGee and Councilman Chad Williams, and uh I spoke to uh Commissioner Pellman, Commissioner Babineau, uh Mayor Burns, and um Council uh no Mayor Pro Tem McKinnon and staff. I spoke with Chair Thenis and Councilman uh Butch Twining. Palmer. I spoke with uh Commissioner Commissioner Pellman, uh Council Members Casey McKeon, Chad Williams, and Don Kennedy, and uh Parks and Community Services Commissioner, uh Jean Gene Paris. I spoke with a uh Vice Mayor uh McKeon and I don't even remember who else I spoke with, but I did speak with one other. I might have spoken to nope, that was it.

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