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Public Safety Committee Meeting - Nov 19, 2025 Appropriations and Reappointments

City-County CouncilWednesday, November 19, 2025
BodyIndianapolis, Indiana
SessionCity-County Council
DateWednesday, November 19, 2025
StatusFILED
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Good.

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Good evening, everyone.

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It is 5 30 p.m.

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We're in the room 260 today.

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Um, Wednesday, November 19, 2025.

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Welcome to the public safety or criminal justice committee of the city county council.

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We'll start our meeting with our council members' uh introductions.

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Councilor Hart.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Chair.

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Michael Paul Hart, representing District 20.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Chair.

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Josh Bain, District 21.

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Thank you, Ms.

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Chair Paul and A, District 22.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Chair.

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Frank Muscare, District 19.

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Thank you, Councillors.

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Council Perkins.

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Uh thank you, Mr.

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Chair, Dr.

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Carlos Perkins, District 6.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Chair Bandalini, District 2.

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Thank you, Chairman Jessica McCormick, District 16.

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Thanks, Mr.

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Chair, and good evening, everyone.

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Keith Graves, District 9 on the Indianapolis East side.

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Thank you, Councillors Lee Wy Robinson, uh District 1 and uh Chair of the Committee.

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We'll start with a few reappointments on our agenda this evening.

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Proposal 316 2025 reappoints Emily Rubin to the assessment intervention center advisory board.

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Ms.

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Rubin, come forward, please.

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Ms.

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Ruben.

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Um they both said they would be this but yep, that's possible.

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Uh we will move that to the uh end of the agenda.

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Proposal number 317, 2025 reappoints Alexandra Hall to domestics by and spotted review team.

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Um Alexandra Hall.

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All righty.

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The next one, uh, committee members three thirty uh three three three uh nine twenty twenty-five, uh, which reappoints Andrew Harrison to the juvenile detention center advisory board.

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Uh, we need a motion to withdraw this.

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This individual no longer lives in the state.

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So no second.

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Been motion to withdraw 339 uh 2025 has been seconded.

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All is in favor by saying aye.

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Aye.

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All right, those opposed.

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Motion carries.

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Thank you, counselors.

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Next up, proposal 340, 2025 approves an additional appropriation, totally six million eight hundred and thirty thousand six hundred and fifty dollars, and a transfer of one million two hundred and thirty-six thousand dollars in a in a reduction of six hundred and thirty thousand six hundred and fifty dollars in the two thousand twenty-five budget for the Marion County Sheriff's Department and the County General Medical Care for Inmates Funds for the purpose of funding the Indiana Fraternity Order of Police Labor Council, Inc.

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Collective Bargain Agreement and Equipment Uh Replacing Plan.

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And uh I think the sheriff is under the weather this evening, will not be in attendance, but it's CFO Callan Carries.

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Ms.

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Carl, you want to come forward.

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Welcome.

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You want to share with us um what 340 is uh referring to with the transfers and additional appropriations?

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Yes, yes, thank you, Mr.

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Public Safety█████████████████████████████29%
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Budget Equity Analysis█████5%
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Summary of Proceedings

Public Safety Committee Meeting - November 19, 2025

The City-County Council Public Safety Committee convened on November 19, 2025, to review and approve several emergency budget appropriations for the Marion County Sheriff's Department, Prosecutor's Office, Public Defender's Office, IMPD, and IFD, alongside reappointments to advisory boards and a major funding request for the city's winter contingency plan. The committee engaged in significant deliberation regarding IMPD's funding needs, the facility conditions leading to a mold outbreak, and the parameters for the new winter shelter network, ultimately approving all proposed motions with unanimous support.

Consent Calendar

  • Reappointment of Emily Rubin to the Assessment Intervention Center (AIC) Advisory Board was approved by voice vote in her absence to honor a family commitment.
  • Reappointment of Alexandra Hall to the Domestic Abuse Review Team was approved following testimonials from council members regarding her dedication and the board's productivity.
  • Withdrawal of Proposal 339 (reappointment of Andrew Harrison to the Juvenile Detention Center Advisory Board) was approved as the individual no longer resides in the state.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Andrew Merkley (Director, Office of Public Health and Safety): Explained the winter contingency plan, noting a strategic shift to a December 1st start date based on climate data and peer city modeling, and highlighted new facilities at Noble of Indiana and West Morris Free Methodist Church.
  • Sarah Vance Lambert (United Way of Central Indiana): Stated strong support for the collaborative, city-wide approach to winter contingency, emphasizing that the need is growing and that the partnership aims to prevent homelessness-related deaths.
  • Kathleen Bowers (Aspire Indiana Health): Expressed support for the low-barrier, service-rich model, stating that bringing services directly to families improves engagement and outcomes, and emphasized the goal of survival and permanent housing placement.
  • Chelsea Haring Cozy (CHIP): Stated full support for the appropriation, describing winter contingency as a critical gap-filler in the shelter system, particularly for families with children.

Discussion Items

  • IMPD Mold Remediation (Proposal 344):

    • Councilor Perkins: Expressed concern regarding the appropriateness of bundling maintenance costs with collective bargaining appropriations, noting the lack of an emergency fund within the budget and the pressure on the budget due to officer vacancies.
    • Deputy Chief Wethington (IMPD): Stated the mold outbreak was an unanticipated expense caused by an aging 1936 facility with uncontrollable humidity, but asserted that no case evidence was compromised, only cardboard packaging.
    • Councilor Eddie (Delaney): Expressed that while the mold may not be a direct result of the facility's age, the incident serves as a strong reminder of the need for a new, world-class police training facility.
    • Councilor Hart: Noted the location of evidence storage and expressed support for future co-location of evidence storage with the Criminal Justice Center (CJC), though noted current expansion plans at Post Road are limited to temporary portable units.
    • Councilor Perkins: Highlighted the new state mandate requiring evidence retention for up to 35 years (or 20 years post-incarceration), creating an unfunded mandate that necessitates a future warehouse.
  • Winter Contingency Plan (Proposal 346):

    • Councilor Hart: Expressed concern that the December 1st start date may be too late given recent rainfall events that flood road-side encampments, and noted inefficiency in bed configurations for families smaller than four members.
    • Councilor McCormick (Delaney): Echoed concerns regarding the December 1st start date and the low number of beds (10) allocated for single women, suggesting a review of precipitation-based triggers rather than just temperature.
    • Councilor Bain: Asked about bed availability ratios, confirmation of support systems for complaints, and the triage process for shelter entry.
    • Director Merkley: Clarified that the 2025 budget did not include funds for emergency maintenance or unanticipated mold remediation, and that the decision to start on December 1st was consensus-driven by a broad coalition of service providers and the city.

Key Outcomes

  • Proposal 340 (Sheriff's Dept): Approved an additional appropriation of $6,830,650 and transfers totaling $1,236,000 for the Sheriff's Department Collective Bargaining Agreement and Equipment Replacement Plan. (Vote: 9-0)
  • Proposal 341 (Prosecutor's Office): Approved an appropriation of $250,000 and transfers totaling $198,000 to support fiscal obligations for existing staff. (Vote: 9-0)
  • Proposal 342 (Public Defender's Office): Approved an additional appropriation of $4,222,000 and a transfer of $20,000 to fund the collective bargaining agreement and capital case costs. (Vote: 9-0)
  • Proposal 344 (IMPD): Approved an additional appropriation of $12,000,000 and a transfer of $875,000 for the FOP contract and $1,000,000 for mold remediation and equipment. (Vote: 9-0)
  • Proposal 345 (IFD): Approved an additional appropriation of $12,600,000 for the FOP contract and prepayment of the 2021 apparatus lease. (Vote: 9-0)
  • Proposal 346 (Winter Contingency): Approved an industrial appropriation of $1,660,000 and a transfer of $100,000 to fund the winter contingency and staff at the Marion County Jail release lobby. (Vote: 9-0)
  • Proposals 316 & 317: Reappointments for Emily Rubin and Alexandra Hall were approved. (Vote: 9-0)
  • Proposal 339: Withdrawn due to residency change. (Vote: 8-0)

Meeting Transcript

Good. Good evening, everyone. It is 5 30 p.m. We're in the room 260 today. Um, Wednesday, November 19, 2025. Welcome to the public safety or criminal justice committee of the city county council. We'll start our meeting with our council members' uh introductions. Councilor Hart. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Michael Paul Hart, representing District 20. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Josh Bain, District 21. Thank you, Ms. Chair Paul and A, District 22. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Frank Muscare, District 19. Thank you, Councillors. Council Perkins. Uh thank you, Mr. Chair, Dr. Carlos Perkins, District 6. Thank you, Mr. Chair Bandalini, District 2. Thank you, Chairman Jessica McCormick, District 16. Thanks, Mr. Chair, and good evening, everyone. Keith Graves, District 9 on the Indianapolis East side. Thank you, Councillors Lee Wy Robinson, uh District 1 and uh Chair of the Committee. We'll start with a few reappointments on our agenda this evening. Proposal 316 2025 reappoints Emily Rubin to the assessment intervention center advisory board. Ms. Rubin, come forward, please. Ms. Ruben. Um they both said they would be this but yep, that's possible. Uh we will move that to the uh end of the agenda. Proposal number 317, 2025 reappoints Alexandra Hall to domestics by and spotted review team. Um Alexandra Hall. All righty. The next one, uh, committee members three thirty uh three three three uh nine twenty twenty-five, uh, which reappoints Andrew Harrison to the juvenile detention center advisory board. Uh, we need a motion to withdraw this. This individual no longer lives in the state. So no second. Been motion to withdraw 339 uh 2025 has been seconded. All is in favor by saying aye. Aye. All right, those opposed.

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