0:55 I mean that could affect all of y'all.
0:58 Yeah, I also think that the criminal division should send something if they're going to be accepting arrangements.
1:04 I thought it would be better if we all just pooled together and uh set one big thing.
1:09 I I think I need to check it.
1:13 I think she's a little far too much.
1:17 Which is a sister pair, she might share safe free.
1:20 Usually we all get something online.
1:22 I mean, because I know she's over there, she lives over kind of near me.
1:28 But I'm surprised we had a question.
1:33 No, but it was a man.
1:37 I figured that they had pre-made.
1:43 I keep reading racing.
1:54 I mean, I I don't know.
1:56 I didn't really like how you can see.
2:02 She had a good thing.
2:13 So that's out there.
2:17 It just hard to believe, right?
2:25 I said about Tommy Carroll.
2:33 Um, yeah, Judge Mercury, sweet judgment.
2:37 I think we're usually not.
2:45 I really thought it was there.
2:46 I was like, oh, you got a way to get there.
2:51 So, you know, uh, she's there, right?
2:54 Well, that's the whole thing.
3:03 I don't know if I can make it work with the definition.
3:10 Yeah, that's a technical.
3:32 It's like all the way down.
3:34 So it was like it was like a little bit of a little bit.
4:00 That's a good question.
4:09 I mean, we're about to do something like that.
4:13 I thought it was a don't you miss it?
4:33 But then it is usually a fine that gets it.
5:01 Awesome awesome sauce.
5:16 Oh, awesome, awesome sauce.
5:29 Um, officially calling the meeting.
5:38 This is the Marion County Community Correction Advisory Board.
5:41 And um, so we will begin our meeting with a roll call.
5:47 Um, since we do have forum, it's a title, but we have it.
5:53 Paige Bova, Marion Superior Court.
5:58 Sandra Harden, Marion County probation.
6:00 Bailey Renchie Board Counsel.
6:02 Jeffrey Marshaw, Marion Superior Court.
6:04 Melanie Kendrick, Marion Spirit Court.
6:07 Chefney Common Miller, community leader.
6:10 Anita Hall, Community Laza.
6:13 And I am Carlot Duffy, your chair, and I am the CFO for the Office of Public Health and Safety.
6:19 Um, for the first item on our agenda, we will be um approving our March 19th meeting minutes.
6:27 Um, everyone should have received not only a hard copy but an electronic copy of the minutes.
6:32 Um, is there any discussion?
6:33 Anyone needing to ask for any corrections?
6:38 Can I get a motion to pass?
6:42 Having a first and a second, all those in favor?
6:47 Um, the minutes passed.
6:50 Oh, and I like these page.
6:54 The next agenda item that we have is for the fiscal year 2026 um juvenile uh community corrections grant transfer requests, and that will be um brought to us by Elsie.
7:13 Elsia, I'll see you.
7:14 Oh my god, so um I believe you should have all received a copy of the JCC's amendment request form.
7:26 I'm just requesting 4800 transferred from series 300 services category to cover electronic monitoring fees, and then um, or I'm sorry, transfer to Series 300 um services, and then to transfer 500 from 100 series fringes to 100 series personnel, um, just due to uh payroll.
7:55 Yeah, so we identified a shortage of salary expenses, so we just need the extra $500 to cover the shortage.
8:08 Okay, so um okay, just so I'm clear.
8:12 Um, because I I I thought that was a typo at first.
8:19 So um they so you had to request that through us.
8:22 So you guys couldn't just make that.
8:24 Just to move them the funds around, um, we do have to since it's being transferred from series 100 to fringes, I guess we do have to request for it to be transferred to personnel.
8:38 So just a different budget line item.
8:41 So it has to be transfers, yes.
8:43 Okay, because I'm thinking of I'm thinking of city regulations where we can transfer it within the character, but I got you.
8:53 I don't think that's so.
8:57 And it seemed like it would be under that 10% rule, but it's all good.
9:02 Being transparent, awesome.
9:04 Um and where exactly was the uh the money that's going to uh your schedule.
9:12 Is it what do you you don't call it character?
9:19 So that was a prior amendment where we asked for um supplies for the youth services center.
9:24 Um, they didn't spend it, so we're just asking for it back to cover electronic funding during drain fees, okay.
9:32 So it wasn't two, and now it's going back to three.
9:40 Any other questions?
9:43 Okay, so um, can I get a motion to approve?
9:48 Having a first and second.
9:50 Is there any discussion on the motion?
9:54 Um, all those in favor.
9:56 Any opposed, and motions approved, okay.
10:03 And the next thing on our agenda is an update uh for community corrections from our executive director Scott Holt.
10:18 Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the board.
10:21 Um, no major um kind of major news, but uh a handful of updates for everyone.
10:29 First of all, uh, you know, we kind of do this pretty randomly, but just going over where we're at numbers-wise, uh, as of yesterday afternoon.
10:38 Uh we had 2,064 individuals on uh sentenced home detention electronic monitoring, um 960 at the on pretrial uh electronic monitoring and 148 at Duvall, and so that's our current numbers.
10:58 Um I didn't add that directly, but we're looking at just over three thousand uh total individuals uh that we are supervising.
11:07 Um couple other quick updates.
11:10 Uh we are obviously in budget season here with city county, but we are also um awaiting uh our community corrections grant number.
11:20 Uh the state still has not informed us what that amount will be.
11:25 Um, as you know, we actually will formally get the award somewhere around the 28th, 29th, uh, just before July, um, and yet we still have not been told what those amounts are.
11:38 We know that there will be a cut.
11:40 We know that statewide there was another $7 million cut from uh the statewide budget, similar to last year.
11:48 Last year that resulted in in roughly a million dollars cut from the countywide budget here in Marin County, largely impacting many of you around the table, probation the prosecutor's office and the sheriff's office in particular.
12:05 Um, obviously many of those were completely zeroed out, so the only thing left for them to cut is community corrections.
12:14 Um so we are expecting a several hundred thousand dollar cut at a minimum, and we have already brought that up to uh the controller to the office of finance and management as we go into budget season here with our county uh city county dollars uh hoping to minimize that impact.
12:33 Um, but right now this is all very nebulous, as as I said, we don't have a number to shoot for at this point.
12:40 So that uh will be coming up.
12:43 Any questions on that?
12:49 Just the one thing I will add, we obviously we've been thinking about what this might look like, what that impact could be.
12:56 Um, looking at our overall budget.
12:59 Now, if it's a full million dollar cut, I may have to amend this statement.
13:03 But um if we're looking at just the uh several hundred thousand, uh, you know, maybe five hundred or less, um, we don't see any impact to to operation real significant impact to operations.
13:18 We're certainly not going to be um doing anything with with staffing or salaries or anything along those lines, and it won't change anything with the services that we're able to provide to um to clients, but there will be other areas that we'll certainly have to tighten up, so but we are just awaiting that number, and we'll see what comes out of that.
13:42 Um related to that, and and actually I guess from a statewide perspective, this is pretty significant.
13:51 The Indiana Association of Community Corrections Counties, that grant that community corrections grant has always been supervised by the Indiana Department of Corrections however that is not statutorily required and so we have been in discussions with the Department of Corrections and the Indiana Criminal Justice Institute since late last year and as an association we voted at our spring meeting and that grant uh we're going to work on having that the administration of that grant transferred from the department of corrections to ICJI and um right uh the department of corrections has agreed to that um ICJI is is an agreement with this we have a meeting coming up uh next week as an association to kind of talk through some of these things and see what that would look like what it would you know the ideal or or the intent is to have our full appropriation of 72 million which is what we had originally been appropriated by the state legislature that entire amount would be uh distributed among community corrections programs instead of uh being uh diverted in any other ways um and there's also a hope and belief that uh in working with ICJI and and their you know the grant opportunities that are available to them that there may be additional grant opportunities for community corrections programs statewide uh due to kind of their background and and interest in in substance abuse and mental health treatment and obviously the the clients that we serve statewide largely fill in that fit in that category as well so that's uh that is um moving forward it's something that would not happen until next legislative session um and and there is quite a bit of work that would need to be done between now and then but that is uh those wheels are turning at this point so any questions about that is a very uh significant change yes um the uh documentation requirements alone in terms of the various uh databases that you will have to utilize and your team will have to learn to utilize is going to be um exhaustive so yeah um I can see the benefits but I can also see uh the negative aspects of it too um yeah um okay so um so you're so we won't know exactly like what potentially could be cut because with that knowledge to me um having worked with ICJI um in the past um then there's there's training that's gonna be need to happen and I would hate to uh see anything of you know any training um allocations be diminished because of the reduction to from the DOC no i I mean to be honest actually the the transfer would be a net gain for us um from a from a fiscal standpoint there are there are programs and and things being funded out of that 70 plus million dollars currently that do not come to community corrections and and actually work against us you know from a fiscal standpoint this we would actually get a much higher percentage of that 73 million dollars uh you know with this move um there would actually be fewer dollars dedicated to very doc specific programming that that does not benefit us so um yes there will be a a certainly a learning curve in the in the grant um application and and administration aspect um but we also uh will be seeing a higher percentage of those dollars that are originally allocated by the state legislature actually coming to county programs across the state okay awesome any questions just just a quick question you said this would be effective for the 27 though the actual effective date is is to be determined um the absolute earliest uh just looking at timelines I think the earliest it could go into effect would be July 1 of 27 um because it you know all the approvals and the actual uh moving of the money wouldn't be able to be done until the legislative session that's upcoming um and then there will be discussions on whether we remain on a uh state fiscal calendar for this grant or move to a uh annual calendar uh which it has gone both ways as you are aware uh it's gone both ways uh over the past several years um so that determination will have to be made along with all the other um legislative pieces that need to be done so if it were to go to a calendar year then there's the possibility it wouldn't actually go into effect until January of 28 yeah okay thank you okay so um so possibly one thing to consider in terms of um conversations in V1 is to uh looking at certain database licenses that could make reporting a lot easier um I know at IMPD their victim advocates have one um that works pretty well and it it transitions the information pretty fluidly between ICJI and the city whereas with our current databases probably you'll probably have to do an Excel data don't in order to then push it into their systems.
20:15 Yep okay awesome and and is there anything else uh two other um two other quick things we are we've had conversations with the Indianapolis police department and um we're getting closer to being able to move forward with empower with the uh victim app their victim advocates uh will be taking a a role in this we are finalizing kind of a step by step uh process and procedure uh to roll out with them um hoping to have that document kind of finalized within about the next week um really kind of taking uh you know data that we've learned from Seattle Chicago and some other jurisdictions um putting that into to pen to paper for that and then uh once we kind of align with IMPD on what that process looks like then we'll be able to meet with crime term again go over the the details of what this would look like how the procedure would work out start some trainings and and be able to finally go live with this.
21:25 Excellent well you're in good hands Ms.
21:28 Lisa Brown who manages the victim advocates is amazing their teams are awesome so I think that'd be awesome amazing yeah deputy chiefs Adams and and and Thomas we've been having a lot of conversations so we're it's progressing I don't want to say close because I don't know what close means but um but we're we're progressing.
21:50 Excellent and the last thing that I have um we are going to uh net kind of organically our residents out at devolved an increasing percentage have been on electronic monitoring.
22:09 This is kind of a subject that has kind of risen kind of ebbed and flowed and and I just uh it it never quite makes the front burner with different issues going on but the intent will be to ask um crim term on uh at Monday's meeting that all individuals at DeVol beyond electronic monitoring.
22:34 It's a little frankly ironic that that they're not um in the and certainly as an agency, we have, I guess, dropped the ball that we've never specifically asked for this.
22:47 But it does I like I said the ironic part is it kind of uh means that individuals on work release in some cases are less supervised than those that are outside uh on home detention.
22:59 So uh which is actually kind of the opposite of the intent of work release.
23:04 So this would not only kind of increase that supervision level, but also honestly will will make some operations within uh Duvall a little easier.
23:16 So right now, when some of our residents who are not on electronic monitoring uh who work overnight shifts or late night shifts get held over for overtime, which is somewhat frequent in in those cases, um the logistics of getting that approved, getting that verified and everything gets very difficult.
23:36 This actually will streamline that uh kind of and make it a lot easier to know for sure that the individual is where he's supposed to be and and is doing what he's calling in about.
23:48 So um, so we will be making that request of crimter on Monday and and uh asking or answering any questions that they may have then, but uh for the board I'm open to any questions or suggestions or concerns regarding this.
24:04 I think my biggest concern with this is cost.
24:07 Is this going to increase um the daily cost for those individuals in Duval?
24:15 No, that it will not change anything for them.
24:17 Um, and as far as for our our budget as a whole, like I said, um organically, those numbers have gone up.
24:25 Um I think we're roughly two-thirds, maybe a little higher of the residents out there are on electronic monitoring currently.
24:33 So from a from a budget impact on the agency, it'll be pretty nominal as well.
24:44 So to be clear, the residents will not pay the electronic monitoring.
24:50 There's already a daily fee that they pay for being in Deval, so it will not that fee will not increase.
24:57 Okay, no, we know extra fees that they have to pay.
25:00 No, so what about the density of the building?
25:07 One of the things I hear a lot, um, and I experienced a lot um in the past with different equipment was being able to read the equipment at all times.
25:17 The ability to read it.
25:18 Um is that the devices don't work inside the building.
25:24 I mean, but y'all know that they're there.
25:26 Yeah, but the people that'll be monitoring are in the building, so they'll know you know what their schedule is.
25:32 Um, you know, obviously this is there are a number of locations throughout the city where that is still an issue.
25:38 I mean, our friends at recycle force, the you know, when they're in that facility, we know, you know, and and we've been able to work through some some processes to verify that in different ways, but that that is a struggle with with the GPS, but it won't be an issue for uh Duvall because the staff that are supervising them will be in the building with them.
26:00 Okay, so will the track group um people be available to, if people are having equipment issues or concern, will they be available at Duvall to service the equipment?
26:11 So that it's we would probably still handle it just like home detention and and just um provide passes for them to go to maintenance if necessary, but because it is a single site, you know, there would be the option of reaching out to track group to have one of their maintenance techs come out out there, so that's a little bit easier to do in that respect.
26:33 Okay, and with their new office, they're actually probably about halfway between here and there anyway.
26:41 Any other questions?
26:44 That is all I have.
26:46 So I was very happy to hear that um there are ongoing discussions um utilizing I believe uh the county option income tax funds to consider uh what a new building would need, and what's happening with the current building, and so can you tell us anything else that's happening with those conversations?
27:14 I don't know any more than that.
27:15 Um I what I know is that there is um there are discussions regarding uh with this next budget uh cycle, you know, what facility needs are out there in the enterprise, and that there is a prioritization plan slash committee being formed at some point uh to discuss that.
27:38 I Justin and I had our meeting, first meeting with the uh controller's office yesterday, so I reiterated our desire for a new building and uh and reminded them not to you know forget to invite me to any prioritization plan meetings.
27:57 Uh not that they would, but just to keep bugging them.
28:02 So but beyond that, that that is as far as I know.
28:05 I I don't know what um from a financial standpoint.
28:09 I know don't know if the funds are available to do one project, to do two projects or whatever.
28:15 I know DPW has significant needs uh with some of their facilities, and I I don't downplay that by any stretch.
28:25 I know there are others in the enterprise that have facility needs.
28:28 Um what I keep reminding and and will not stop reminding is um for ours, there's one very significant difference, and that's that we have people living there.
28:41 And so um I'm not trying to diminish the needs of other agencies or departments, but I do feel like the fact that we have humans leave living there uh is a pretty important factor.
28:56 I would agree um and would be an advocate um to definitely prioritize the law um so that we can have humans living in a humane space.
29:07 Um we will we will that is part of our budget presentation, so we will be uh bringing it up and and we will keep bringing it up.
29:18 This was part of the admin and finance meeting that was um roughly a week ago yesterday, um where it was discussed.
29:25 So it wouldn't it would go before the full council for approval um the first uh was it Monday in July.
29:39 Is there anything else?
29:44 Um so our next meeting will be Thursday, July 16th, right here in T 260.
29:51 And look forward to seeing you all again.
29:53 And she needs something.
29:56 And so uh we are adjourned.
30:01 Quick, quick, quick.