Well, yeah, against the sphere.

Yeah, I think that's what I think.

You don't need any process.

Yeah, no, I get it.

So that's like Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon.

Welcome to the Metropolitan Development Commission public meeting of November 19, 2025.

We will now come to order.

Would all rise and join me with the Pledge of Allegiance?

Liberty and Justice Raw.

Thank you.

Members of the Commission, you have received last Thursday the minutes from the November 5th, 2025 meeting.

Are there any additions or deletions to those minutes?

Hearing none.

Commissioner Schumacher, I'll take a motion to approve.

So moved.

Commissioner Robinson, I'll take a second.

Second.

Call the roll.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergett.

Hergut, yes.

Lyle is not here.

Morerity.

Mority, yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

Schumacher.

Schumacher, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

They pass eight to zero.

Are there any special requests?

Withdrawals, continuances would like to bring to the attention of the commission.

Councilor, you got a withdrawal.

I do indeed.

Thank you, uh, President Dillon, members of the commission, Joe Calderan, 11 South Maridia in Indianapolis.

I call your attention to item nineteen on your agenda.

That is a rezoning petition twenty twenty-five ZON07 at sixty-five one man road.

Um following uh a number of meetings with neighbors, um including McCannna, uh Councillor Bain, uh, and others, uh, my client has decided to withdraw this petition at this time.

So acknowledge counselor, thank you so much.

For the minutes, 2025 ZON O 77, 6501 Man Road is officially withdrawn.

Are there any other continuances?

Special requests, Kathleen.

Uh thank you, President Dillon, members of the commission staff would draw your attention to item number thirteen.

This will need to be continued to your December third hearing pending receipt of the commitments and review of those commitments.

Thank you, Kathleen.

Is there anybody else here who would like to comment on this continuance request?

Seeing none, can I get a motion?

Uh Commissioner Garver to move 2025 ZON 111 to be continued till December 3rd.

So moved.

Commissioner Hergett, can I get a second?

Second.

Let me call the roll.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Her good.

Yes.

Morerity.

More ARDS.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

Schumacher.

Schumacher, yes.

West.

West, yes.

It is moved till December 3rd by vote of 820.

Thank you.

Any other continuances?

Special requests, withdrawals.

Seeing none, let's move forward.

We have uh two items on the agenda before we get into our normal hearing.

Uh, the first we need to have a bid opening.

Um Pierce Kirby, would you come forward?

This is on RFP 13 DMD 2025-2nd in college.

Well, let's see if I can get it down there.

We have a bid submitted by Chatham Park Development.

And that is the only bid that's in the packet.

Pierce Kirby will take this just for the record.

The commission opens these bids.

We turn them over to DMD staff.

They work on developing their opinion and negotiations on those bids, and then come back to us on a later date for ratification.

Pierce, you've got it.

Thank you, President Dillon.

All right.

Moving forward, I would like for Lucas Anderson and Jennifer Carter to come forward.

Under the state statute, we are required every year to receive an updated TIF report.

So if they would come up and give it to us, we'd appreciate it.

Now you're sitting down.

That's fine.

Good afternoon, President Dillon and the Commissioners.

My name is Lucas Anderson, and I serve as CFO COO for the Department of Metropolitan Development.

Joined with me is Jenny Carter, budget manager in the Office of Finance and Management.

Today we will be presenting to you on the city's tax increment financing or TIFF allocation areas and subsequent activities pertaining to fiscal year 2024 as we are statutorily required.

The first slide you are viewing is the specific section of Indiana Code IC 36-7-25-8 that outlines this reporting requirement.

We will specifically be speaking to TIFF budgets, long-term planning, and the impact to local taxing units of the city's TIFF allocation areas.

For this next slide, I want to take a moment to reflect on what a TIF on what is a TIFF.

For this slide, I want to take a moment to reflect on what a TIFF is and its use as an economic development tool.

The concept behind the establishment of a TIFF is to capture the increase of assessed value or AV.

That is generated from a new development or redevelopment.

Before a TIP allocation area is created, it is required to pass the BUT 4 test, which essentially poses the question that if a TIF did not exist, or to say the infusion of public dollars into a project was not invested, then a project would not move forward.

After passing the BUT 4 test requirements, a TIFF allocation area is established and is able to capture new AV moving forward.

TIFS are generally used for removing impeding obstacles to vote to development, such as a lack of public infrastructure, environmental issues, or land cost.

For a refresh of the process that must be followed to create a TIFF, a res a resolution is first brought before this body.

If approved, the city county council must also approve the establishing resolution with the final approval being required by the MDC.

This slide is generally helpful in understanding the revenue capturing lifespan of a TIFF.

Any AV that exists prior to a TIPS creation remains available to base taxing units.

After the creation, the new incremental increase in assessed value is captured by the allocation area.

Once the TIFF terminates, the incremental AV is released to base taxing units.

We plan to continue to invest dollars into significant redevelopment efforts, public infrastructure improvements, affordable housing, workforce development, and environmental remediation.

Ultimately, any utilization of TIFF requires approval from this body.

This information, as well as additional details on the TIFFs, are required to be submitted to the Department of Local Government Finance or DLGF by April 15th of each year.

Available at the front table are handouts with detailed information on the 39 individual TIFFs that saw a financial activity in 2024.

On page one of the handout, expenses are shown by TIFF and are broken out between two categories: debt service and non-debt service payments.

Uh payments are related to one-time activities.

In total, the TIFFs saw revenues of $250 million and expenses of $238 million for a net position change of 12 million dollars in 2024.

These expenditures, whether debt service payments or one-time transactions require approval from this body.

To give a better idea of the type of expenditures that occurred in 2024 across all TIFFs, the table on this slide, as well as in uh the handout on at the bottom of page one, shows the expenses by category.

Expenses related to debt service, redevelopment contributions, and land acquisition accounted for 98% of TIFF expenditures in 2024.

And speaking to the impact of TIFFs on local taxing units, this slide illustrates two hypothetical scenarios.

The first scenario in the top gray bar positive that all TIFFs that have been established passed the necessary BUT 4 test.

This means that without the existence of a TIFF, the investments made in these areas would not have occurred and local units would not would have seen no benefit or impact.

The second gray bar assumes that investments would have occurred naturally without the assistance of TIFF.

In this scenario, the impact to local units would be in the range of zero to 77.9 million dollars in 2024.

This is equivalent to all TIFF increment revenues being released to the base taxing units with the important caveat that the impact would come in the form of circuit breaker relief.

At the maximum end of that range, the impact to the city county count city county specifically would be $31 million.

More information on this scenario can be found on page three of the handout.

Finally, the information presented today is also available at the DLGF's Indiana Gateway TIFF viewer page.

The URL to the viewer is included in today's PowerPoint presentation as which is also in today's meeting packet.

Are there any questions?

Questions for staff.

Would you slowly walk through your definition of but for I'll do my best, President Dillon, and I'll defer to Director Vukusich to expand where I might be lacking.

The but for definition test is but for government involvement.

The private market would not be able to lead the proposed redevelopment efforts.

Statutorily, there is set requirements that we must pass whenever a TIF is created.

It's information that is included within a establishing declaratory resolution, looking at levels of blight, um impediments with environmental remediation or other factors that but for the government involvement.

See economic opportunity.

I've never seen a developer that didn't think they passed the butt for test.

But I guess that comes in the DMD's landing zone.

Executive director.

Yes, uh President Dillon, for the record, Megan Fuchsich, Director for DMD.

Um that is correct.

So once we receive an application, we have a team of trained staff that review uh the financial documents, pro forma, the proposed development to determine if it meets that but four tests.

We also have attorneys working on these projects and bond counsel to make sure we meet all those statutory requirements.

Thank you, executive director.

Any questions for anything else for your presentation?

No, sir.

Your presentation has been so received, and you have complied with statutory requirements.

Thank you, Commissioners.

All righty.

Moving forward, Nancy, can you read the resolutions into the record?

Yes, thank you, President Dillon and Commissioners.

2025 R051 authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to utilize citywide contract number 17763 with new tech roofing for roof repair services at the former Indiana Women's Prison.

2025A036 for public hearing authorizes an amendment to the 2023 real property tax abatement approved by resolution 2023 A041 at 1011 East 22nd Street 22 Monon Multifamily Partners LLC, formerly known as DJBCG Monon 22 LLC Council District 13 Center Township.

2025 E031 authorizes the funding of 1,500,000 pursuant to IC 36-7-13 for affordable housing in the Lafayette Square Community Revitalization Enhancement District Creed C RED to the International Marketplace Coalition for the purpose of the Hodges Commons Development by Woda Cooper Companies located at 3815 Moller Road in Pike Township.

2025 E036 authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to negotiate and execute an agreement with the SJ held LLC to provide funding for technical and project management services and a contractual not to exceed amount of $90,000 through December 31st, 2027.

2025 C007 authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to contract for environmental services on an as-needed basis with a group of qualified contractors identified pursuant to a request for qualifications.

Authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to negotiate and execute an agreement with Circle Area Community Development Corporation to act as a fiscal agent for the homeowner repair program and a not-to-exceed amount of $1,600,000 through December 31st, 2027.

2025 C009 authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to negotiate and execute an agreement with the Circle Area Community Development Corporation to provide bridge housing at the St.

George Bridge Housing Facility for people who are experiencing homelessness and are suffering from substance abuse disorder in an amount not to exceed $807,521 through December 31st, 2026.

2025 C010 authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to amend the agreement with the Damien Center to increase the total contractual not to exceed amount to $1,483,536 to provide services and leasing for people who are experiencing homelessness, homelessness, and are suffering from substance abuse disorder for the 2026 master leasing program year.

This ends the reading of the resolutions.

Thank you, Nancy.

We have seven policy resolutions not scheduled for a hearing.

2025 R051 2025 E031 2025 E036 2025 C007 2025 C008 2025 C009 2025 C010.

Commissioner Morarti, can I get a motion to take those seven policy resolutions as a whole?

So moved.

Thank you.

Commissioner West, can I get a second?

A second.

Let me call the roll.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergett.

Hergate, yes.

Morerity.

Morreardi, yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

Schumacher.

Schumacher, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

The seven policy resolutions pass 8 to 0.

That takes us to the one policy resolution that's scheduled for a public hearing.

2025 A036 authorizes an amendment to the 2023 Real Property Tax Abatement approved by resolution 2023 A041 at 1011 East 22nd Street.

22nd Monon Multifamily Partners LLC, formerly known as DJBCG Monon 22, LLC, Council District Number 13, Center Township.

Staff, please introduce yourself.

Thank you, President Dillon and members of Commission.

I am Letitia Ramsey, compliance manager for the DMD.

This resolution is a public hearing to amend the terms for 2020 for 2022 Mona Multifamily Partners LLC.

The amendment is to amend to amend to extend the job schedule dates and to extend the ERA.

DMD agrees with this amendment for this resolution.

2022 Mona Multifamily Partners Representative should be in the audience for additional questions.

Thank you, Letitia.

Is there anyone else here today who would like to comment on 2025 A036?

Are there any questions from members of the Commission for staff?

Hearing none.

We've got 2025 A036 before us.

Commissioner Murphy, can I get a motion to approve?

So moved.

Commissioner Hergett, can I get a second?

Second.

Call the roll.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergett.

Her yes.

Morarity.

Morrearty, yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

Schumacher.

Schumacher, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

It passes 8 to 0.

Letitia, thank you.

Thank you.

Nancy, can you read the petitions of no appeal into the record, please?

Yes, thank you, President Dillon and Commission.

Petitions of no appeal.

Petitions recommended for approval by the hearing examiner.

2025 ZON07 Ford 8221 and 8351 South Midhoffer Road and 10,100, 10,550, and 10,600 Mays Road, Franklin Township, Council District 25.

2025 ZON 091 at 6154 Michigan Road, Washington Township, Council District 2.

2025 ZON 107 and 7560 East 71st Street, Lawrence Township, Council District 3.

2025 ZON 109 at 8631 and 8701 LePart Court from various addresses from 6350 through 6416 Shamel Drive and 8620 through various addresses through 8720 Marisi Drive 8723 through 8909 Burgesson Drive 6202 Burgesson Drive and 6652 Residence Drive Pike Township Council District 1.

2025 CZN832 at 1140 East 46th Street 4644 4646 4648 4710 and 4716 Carville Avenue Washington Township Council District 7 2025 REG 010 amended at 1501 1505 and 1507 West New York Street Center Township Council District 18 2025 REG 048 at 21 Virginia Avenue and 122 and 130 East Maryland Street Center Township Council District 18 2025 REG 069 at 1200 Indiana Avenue Center Township Council District 12.

2025 REG 069 at 1200 Indiana Avenue, Center Township, Council District 12.

This ends the reading of the no appeals document recommended for approval by the hearing examiner.

Thank you, Nancy.

Members of the Commission, we've got eight zoning petitions of no appeal that have been recommended to be approved.

2025 ZON 074, 2025 ZON 091, 2025 ZON 107, 2025 Z O N 109, 2025 CZN 832, 2025 REGO 10 as amended.

2025 REG 048 and 2025 REG 069.

I'd like to take all eight together, Commissioner Schumacher.

Can I get a motion to approve?

So moved.

Commissioner Garver, can I get a second?

Second.

Call the roll, Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergett.

Hurricate, yes.

More Earthy.

Moreity, yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson, yes.

Schumacher.

Schumacher, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

They pass eight to zero.

All eight have been approved.

Nancy, can you pull the and read into the record our first public hearing today?

President Dillon, before Nancy does that, I made an error and I need to make a correction to the record.

Yes, Mr.

Murphy.

On um community investment resolution.

Uh what agenda items, sir?

Number seven.

C 009.

I meant to uh reacuse myself on that vote.

Nancy, please show Mr.

Murphy, Commissioner Murphy on 2025 C009.

Yes, as recused.

Agenda item seven.

Got it.

So noted.

You got it, Nancy.

So thank you very much.

Now, Nancy, let's read our first public hearing into the record.

Thank you, President Dillon and Commissioners.

Our first public hearing is for an approval petition transferred from the hearing examiner for initial hearing.

It's 2025 APP 003 amended at 620 East 21st Street.

Center Township Council District 13 is zone PK2.

The petitioners Dequan branch by George Gonzalez.

And the request is for a park distance district two approval to provide for a two and a half story single family dwelling with an attached garage.

Will all those intending to testify on this petition this afternoon, please stand now to be sworn in.

Thank you.

Please raise your right hands.

Do you swear affirming the penalties of perjury to tell the truth and nothing but the truth?

Say I do.

I do.

Thank you.

Petitioner.

Would the petitioner come forward, please?

And you all are remonstrators.

Your support.

Got it.

Would you do me a big favor and move over to the other side?

That'd be great.

You'd be surprised how tough it is to see everybody.

Before we start, let me give you the rules of engagement.

Petitioner gets 15 minutes.

If there's a remonstrator in the room, I'll give them 15 minutes for their position.

If there's a city councilman, I saw one floating around, but I think he's here for the last uh last issue.

I'll go to staff, then I'll come back to you for a five-minute rebuttal if needed.

And then I would go back to the remonstrator for a five-minute rebuttal if needed.

Please introduce yourself.

You've both been duly sworn.

Is that correct?

Go ahead.

Please introduce yourself and your address.

You're on the shot clock.

Go.

All right.

My name is Dequan Branch located at 620 East 21st Street, Indianapolis, Indiana.

My name is George Gonzalez.

I am a 4415 East Michigan Street, Indianapolis, Indiana, 46201.

Dequan, let's go.

Alrighty.

I'd like to first off by start by thanking you all uh for this opportunity to speak today.

And I just want to say it's uh been a pleasure uh working with the individuals as well as organizations of uh within the Broadway Park community.

Um their support for this project uh truly means a lot and it's been consistent throughout this process and I just want to say I greatly appreciate it as reflected on the record and foul as well as letters of support.

Um I also like to give a special thanks to Miss Kathleen.

She has been a great help throughout this process as far as uh giving us more detailed information rules of compliance as there's been my architect Mr.

Gonzalez's first time dealing with PK2 um fouling.

So I would definitely like to thank her for her assistance and guidance through this process.

Um I also would like to just say that this project represents an exciting moment for me personally as well as the neighborhood as a whole to see what was once a vacant lot evolve into a thoughtful new development, one that the community can take pride in means a great deal.

Um it would not only contribute positively to the surrounding area, but it would also be a place that my family and I could call home.

Um and while the lot is of modest size, we will definitely uh stay in compliance and committed to maximizing the potential uh of all the parameters of the PK2 district zone.

Um I also would like to highlight once again, like I said, Mr.

Gonzalez, this was his first PK2 zone as a middle.

So completing this project has also expanded his experience and will benefit future homeowners interested in building within the PK2 district.

Overall, I believe this development will be a win-win outcome for everyone involved, strengthening the neighborhood, respecting the zoning standards, and bringing a long vacant space back into a productive use.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Um Mr.

DeQuin said everything for me, but thank you so much, especially to Kathleen.

C C help us a lot with this and to understand what the requirements are.

Um I am grateful to have this opportunity to work with Mr.

DeQuan, and that's all I have right now.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Gonzalez.

Thank you.

Are there any remonstrators here?

I understand that we've got that worked out with the one remonstrator, Kathleen.

Someone else that wanted to speak in support.

Okay.

I'm sorry, I didn't see you.

Please introduce yourself and your address.

Will you duly sworn in?

Yes.

Name and address.

My name is Jacob Morales, J A K O B M O R A L E S.

My address is 1315 North Colorado Avenue, Indianapolis, Indiana, 46201.

Uh, I would just like to support this development.

Um, I believe it fits the standards of the neighborhood.

Um from a heightened you know sex perspective.

Uh, believe it fits with the character of the surrounding community and would love to see more housing uh such as this and support such development.

Thank you.

Jacob, thank you for being here.

Appreciate it.

Kathleen, you're on.

Thank you, President Dylan, members of the commission.

I first want to thank Mr.

Branch and Gonzalez for their patience.

This has been a learning experience for them, but I think we have arrived at a very positive uh development that will be a contribution to the neighborhood.

Staff initially recommended denial, but through it's working through them.

We got to the point where staff is recommending approval.

This is consistent with the PK2 plan development district, and with that staff would have would be willing to answer any questions that you might have.

Questions for staff hearing none Dequan, any final comments?

Um, but I do appreciate you guys' time today and consideration.

Thank you very much.

Um any questions from members of the commission for the petitioner.

Any questions for staff?

Let's go to your ballots.

The ballot should say Dequan branch.

Please mark them and we'll come in to Nancy.

Amended Daquan branch.

There are eight ballots cast.

There were eight votes.

Yes.

This petition has been approved.

Thank you very much.

Dequan, since this is your first time, let me give you a little advice.

Take it, don't take it.

Do a great job.

Make Kathleen proud of you.

It will help you all down the road if you want to do something else.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Have a nice day.

All right.

Nancy, let's read uh the next public hearing into the record.

Of course.

Yes, thank you, President Dillon.

Our next set of public hearings is a set of companion petitions recommended for denial by the hearing examiner appeal filed by petitioner.

They are 2025 CPL 825, 2025 CBR 825 at 7140 and 7142 East Washington Street.

Fieldstowed Financial LLC by Joseph D.

Cauldron requesting approval of a subdivision plat to be known as Wawa Sharp Ridge Primary Platte, subdividing 9.4 acres into three lots.

Also requesting a variance of development standards of the consolidated zoning and subdivision ordinance to provide for the construction of an automobile fueling station with 16 pump island service areas, eight permitted, with portions of a service parking area in front of the front building line, with a parking area having a minimum 15-foot setback from Washington Street with parking area behind the front building line, encompassing 88.1% of the lot width.

Surface parking areas required behind the front building line, 25 feet required, maximum 40 percent lot width for parking permitted behind the front building line.

Also requesting with a front building line encompassing 31.1 percent of the lot width, 60 percent required, and the deficient first floor transparency, 40 percent required.

Will all those intended to testify on this put these petitions this afternoon, either for or against, please stand now to be identified.

Um did the we have a special request.

Go ahead and swear me in.

Please raise your right hand.

So you swear or affirm on the penalties of perjury to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, say I do.

I do.

Thank you.

So hold on, Councilor Eddie.

Do you want to do your house cleaning now?

Or do you want counselor?

You have some updated information?

I do, I do.

Let's let him start.

Yeah, and then I'll come to the case.

Thank you.

So thank you, President Dillon, members of the commission, Joe Calder and 11 South Meridian.

I represent the petitioner in this matter.

We've been having conversations with Councillor Nielsen out in the hallway, and in light of some information that staff brought to us shortly before the hearing.

Um we're going to present um two variances to you this afternoon.

We think we can get rid of at least one.

Don't know that we can get rid of both of them, but that would be a minor deviation.

We've been talking about pushing this case out to December 3rd so we could revise our plan in light of the staff uh interpretation on the pump island issue uh today.

So I would have brought this to your attention before the hearing, but we've had these conversations here in the last couple of minutes.

So with your uh permission uh and uh consideration, we would uh request this be uh heard on December 3rd.

Can you ask uh City Councilman Andy Neelson to step in?

Yes, I sure can.

Thank you, sir.

Councilman, good afternoon.

Uh petitioners has had a special request to move this hearing to December 3rd out of uh diplomacy to you on to make sure you're good with that, and I wanted to check with you.

Uh thank you, President Dillon, Commissioners, Andy Nielsen City Councillor for uh the district uh district where this uh parcel is located.

District 14 14, yes, thank you, sir.

Um yes, we we've been working really really closely on this, um, and I am supportive of of continuing uh this to the December 3rd MDC and would ask for the continued collaboration between the petitioner and staff.

Thank you.

Des you're good.

Commissioner Murphy, can I get a motion to move 2025 CPL 825 and 2025 C VR 825 to the hearing date of December 3, 2025?

So moved.

Thank you.

Uh Commissioner Morerity, can I get a second?

Second.

Thank you.

Let me call the roll.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergitt.

Morerity.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

Schumacher.

Schumacher, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

Councilman, we're moving it to the eighth petitioner, or excuse me, to the third.

Uh petitioner, we're moving it to December 3rd.

We'll see you then.

Yeah, thank you.

She's working for being gracious and my apologies to the remonstrators.

This was all new information.

It's all all good.

Thank you.

That brings us to conclusion of our meeting.

Uh a sincere happy Thanksgiving to everybody.

And we'll see you on the third.