0:01Madam Director, it's 12 o'clock.
0:03Why don't we get started?
0:05Thank you, President Dillon, members of the Commission.
0:09Welcome to the Metropolitan Development Commission pre-meeting for July 15th, 2026.
0:16We're going to go ahead and read through the resolutions.
0:19Starting with 2026 R021.
0:23This authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to use locally available funds and an amount not to exceed $15,000 to demolish a structure located at 2638 and 2640 East 10th Street to facilitate investigation and removal of underground storage tanks.
0:45This is the preliminary economic revitalization area resolution for Metro Blocks LLC located at 2505 North Sherman Drive, Council District No.
0:58Indianapolis Economic Development Incorporated is recommending approval of 10 years real property tax abatement.
1:07This is the preliminary economic revitalization area resolution for MetroBlocks LLC.
1:13Located at 2505 North Sherman Drive.
1:27That the Department of Metropolitan Development does not support approval of these resolutions.
1:32On Monday, the Metropolitan and Economic Development Committee, which is a subcommittee of the full council, voted to recommend that a moratorium be placed on new data center developments.
1:42While Metro Blocks has already obtained their zoning approval and would not be subject to the moratorium, offering economic incentives at this time is not appropriate.
1:51It is vital that we do not rush these decisions and take our time to have all community benefits clearly outlined and documented to ensure that we are getting the best outcome for the residents of Indianapolis.
2:02I would highly recommend that IDI withdraw their requests at this time and that the Commission not move this forward.
2:10Oh, who's signed that?
2:12Department of Metropolitan Development.
2:14The Department of Metropolitan Development.
2:22I'm sorry, can you re restate the question?
2:25I don't understand who provided that statement.
2:28The Department of Metropolitan Development.
2:35But that was not the intent of the City Council.
2:45That moratorium was applied to the zoning.
2:47And that was for new data center developments.
2:50And that's for new data centers.
2:54Not things that are in the queue.
2:56So Metroblocks have already received their zoning approval, so the moratorium does not impact them.
3:00However, my statement still stands.
3:03I think it is I think that this these resolutions should be withdrawn to give us more time to make sure that we're solidifying those community benefits.
3:19This is for a public hearing.
3:20This is a resolution authorizing an amendment to the 2023 real property tax abatement.
3:25Approved by resolution 2023 A026 at Alpha Lovell, U.S.
3:31Group Services Real Estate LLC 5820 Meritage Parkway Council District Number 25, Franklin Township.
3:42Also for a public hearing.
3:44This is the final economic revitalization area resolution for C C B C C Operations LLC.
3:51Located at 5000 West 25th Street, Council District Number 11, Wayne Township, recommending approval of four years personal property tax abatement.
4:04This is for a public hearing.
4:06However, staff is going to be requesting a continuance to the August 5th meeting.
4:14And so in re-notized, I want to make that point as well.
4:17We need to renotice because there was an error.
4:19So we will be requesting that continuance.
4:22That's the final economic revitalization area resolution for ZEMA International Incorporated, located at 6900 English Avenue.
4:3120, Warren Township, recommending approval of seven years personal property tax abatement.
4:40Which one was the one year requesting continuance on what number?
4:43That is item six, 2026 A034.
5:00So on two and three, will staff be requesting continuance on the US or so IDI is the entity that is going to be speaking on behalf of those proposals.
5:05So I would defer to them.
5:07So would staff have standing for lack of a better word to request a continuance?
5:16Yes, I I guess we can request continuance of the items.
5:20Yes, we would that would be appropriate in my opinion.
5:24So I am I am urging the IDI withdrawal their requests today to not move it forward.
5:29If they do not, then I would ask that the commission not vote to move this forward.
5:33So you would staff would request a continuance.
6:02So if I if they don't withdraw it, staff isn't going to make any formal requests.
6:08Yeah, I think this is a little bit of an odd situation with the Indy Economic Development Incorporated.
6:22So I I guess I would defer to them on making those formal requests.
6:31Any other questions on the resolution?
6:36Yes, I can acknowledge that.
6:40Are we able as this group to withdraw but not denying a request?
6:52Maybe a motion to table?
6:55Um you could motion to table it, but the withdrawal would have to come from the entity that actually submitted the request.
7:04So we're going to vote on it.
7:10So we just be voting it up or down.
7:12That would be the limit of what we could do with it.
7:19On the commission's volition.
7:27Or if it is voluntarily withdrawn, that resolves that.
7:34And then if it's then you always will have the option of voting it up or down, also five students.
7:52This is purely introduction to move forward to have a public hearing.
8:01And at the public at that point in time, which our natural schedule would have been probably August 5th.
8:09At that point time, then the debate happens on what we want to do with it, voted up or down, or amend it.
8:18Today's vote as the agenda came out was just to move it forward and put it on the agenda.
8:28It's an introduction, introduction resolution.
8:30That's nothing more, nothing.
8:31If we voted through today, all it is it takes us to a public hearing.
8:36In which case, pros and cons that we discussed.
8:39Correct is asked, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
8:41All we're doing is put it on the correct.
8:50I don't want to vote at your wise one.
8:54My working understanding when I was in the council office is that there were either ordinances or statute they've got everything.
9:05And this could be apples and oranges and DC versus the council.
9:09But when I served on council staff, if the motion was made to table something, the body shall.
9:17I think it's by state statute.
9:21You could not table something indefinitely.
9:23So I'm just curious again.
9:25I'm not trying to do that.
9:25What is the state statute on the top of my head?
9:42Well, I think my clear understanding is counselor and help me.
9:46Here's my clear understanding.
9:52And I think there's a state statute that says it has to be heard.
9:58Up down, how whatever you want to do with it.
10:00At a public hearing.
10:04But I I'm looking at what's the name of the statute.
10:09Tested interest statute.
10:10And I think it's got three years to be heard once it's right.
10:13Any application that is complete and submitted is governed by the rules in place on the date that that application is submitted for a period of three years.
10:26So vested vested rights.
10:30Um 367 4119 is the citation.
10:41So that is the state statute.
10:45And I think that comes into play.
10:48And once again, this is for introduction.
10:52At the public hearing, it can be voted down.
10:59It can be amended, but I think it's got to move forward by state statute as a vested right.
11:09I think that's right.
11:10Yeah, I I don't think that this I'm not out of bounds on that.
11:15I don't think I don't think that this body can just decide not to consider it.
11:21We could not table it indefinitely.
11:25We I assume we could vote to continue it, but there would have to be a date stated, sir.
11:33But is it accurate to say that it'll still be voted on today?
11:37So a vote could be made to not move it forward.
11:45It could be voted down.
11:53As you say, uh clear as mud, everybody.
11:57Yeah, it's not a layer really.
12:06All right, I'll turn it.
12:07Any other questions?
12:12Turn it over to Bryce.
12:16Uh good afternoon, commissioners.
12:19Um, so on the agenda today, uh, I want to start off with under special requests.
12:24Um, we have received communications from counselor Nielsen that he does plan on uh speaking um during the special requests to ask for a continuance for item 16 on the agenda, and that is for a public hearing.
12:42So that'd be for uh agenda item 16.
12:45The case numbers 2026 C VR 815 amended and 2026 uh CPL 815, and this is uh 305 FinTeil Drive.
12:56Um so this is our for DC blocks.
12:59This will be uh on the agenda for their public hearing.
13:02Um so we just want to make that known that that special request quest is uh will be asked for uh through counselor Nielsen.
13:14And he wanted a 30-day or something.
13:16Uh per his communication would be one month continuance.
13:20Uh that might change during his request, but that's what the written communication was saying.
13:26Uh under the petitions of no sorry before we move on to I I saw the additional documentation that came for it this morning.
13:34I saw Counselor Hard also submitted a letter.
13:39Uh he uh counselor Hart did submit a letter uh uh recommending or uh objecting from that petition.
13:47Do you know if he plans to be there in person to make that same request?
13:51I've not heard any direct communication that he be present.
13:55Um the only counselor that I've heard now plans on speaking on that continuing speaking.
14:01Okay, thanks, Bryce.
14:03Uh, under the petitions of no appeal that are recommended for approval.
14:07Um, all uh petitions are ready to go.
14:10Um they all are recommended approval.
14:12Uh there's no remonstrance heard.
14:14I do want to bring your attention to item 15, which is under the uh petitions uh the of no appeal ready for approval that does have uh a list of commitments that are ready to be signed today.
14:29But all nine all nine are ready to go.
14:39Uh, for public hearings, as we said, we have uh two on the agenda um that are scheduled for public hearing today.
14:46The first one we just discussed, which is item 16.
14:48Uh this is for uh 305 pin tail, this is for DC blocks.
14:52Uh the second petition um is ready to roll as well.
14:56There will be um there will be a presentation.
15:00This one just be uh up front.
15:02This one was actually uh transferred directly to MDC uh from here examiner.
15:06There is some timeline um and for federal funding that they're running up against.
15:12And so um the hearing examiner did transfer that case directly to the MDC, so this will be the first hearing.
15:19Uh we do not have any uh remonstrance on record for the case, and uh staff is recommending approval, uh, but I just want to make that note as well.
15:29Any questions on those cases?
15:35So your recommended approval on 2026 ZON 057?
15:41And your position on 2026 C VR 815, 2026 CPL 815 is uh staff is recommending approval for both with the commitments.
15:59Any questions from members of the commission?
16:13Uh we do have one pre-meeting presentation today.
16:16I'm gonna turn it over to Kathy to introduce the presentation.
16:29Uh Kathy Bad were just here to present um presenters from entropy.
16:37The project is located at 2505 more than Ryan.
16:41They're requesting a 10-year real property abatement with a 60% straight line deduction for 250 million dollar investment, and then there's a 15-year enhanced personal property abatement with a 90% straight line deduction for 406 million uh personal property investment.
17:00And then they have an additional possible investment 7.2 billion in tenant personal property.
17:07I'm gonna let the company explain that part to you.
17:11Our development partners and item have been uh working directly directly with the counselor on the inclusivity, which at this point calculates to be 22.5 million that will be paid over a T week period.
17:26Um we have Ernest and Scott with us today, but prior to this coming before us, our development partner, Andrea from I is going to just explain how we got to the incentive package.
17:38So I'll turn it over to Andrea first.
17:41Okay, thank you, Kathy.
17:42So thank you, Commissioner.
17:45Um just to uh maybe provide some clarity and pieces on that.
17:50Um, you know, we as the economic development arm, but city adjacent entity uh are a group of economic development professionals that provide uh guidance on community economic impact.
18:00We assess detail uh deals uh based on a standard in which we assess all projects.
18:05So that's why we're trying to do you know, many times to be able to have that same standard and the same utilities that we look at for companies, whether they're small or larger scale investments like this.
18:16Those terms then go through the DMD process, but I want to be clear that the petitioners are uh you know our company, those are the ones who are receiving the incentives.
18:25We are not dependent to be that benefits nor receives or has any of that, but provide this fuller framework and if you're clouding clear um through all these processes, whether it's this body, community, others, that there needs to be a holistic understanding of these projects.
18:39So I hope today this will provide a little bit of that baseline so that you with the decision-making body can make that informed coalition.
18:48Okay, list get to the heart of the matter.
18:50Can you back up please?
18:52Please where is the indie economic development on this?
18:59Frankly, the petition.
19:03I understand they're the petitioner, but you're pushing the incentive package.
19:07And you put it on the schedule for today.
19:11Yes, but as any other project or company that we would have to do.
19:14Are you for moving forward today?
19:16We are moving forward today and presenting uh the economic impact of this project.
19:21All right, so you're forward to go forward today.
19:25Yes, I feel it's important to talk about I need a yes or no.
19:28You are forward to go forward.
19:30We are for it to go forward to be heard.
19:32Please do your presentation.
19:35So just to make sure how we got here, when we come into the picture, there has already been a host of um due diligence and kind of guardrails around the land use, so no incentive can be um beyond that.
19:46And then this is just a reminder of how data centers are you know regulated from different bodies across the state and local uh entities for a lot of their environmental factors.
19:56This is the part that after that land use is granted in which we assess the economic impact.
20:01Going to the next slide, when we look at the due diligence that we look at to be able to come to our assessment, it's a mix of the financial and operator history.
20:09So where do they have other projects that show a track record of good standards?
20:14We look at utility agreements to make sure that it is more that capacity is conserved and it's a way that they're protecting their clients and ratepayers.
20:23We look at workforce commitments, you know, things like PLAs and other things the company has signed.
20:28We look at the community benefit package and if they'll be going above and beyond that.
20:34We look at target industry in this sense, IT, and we look at the size of the capital investment, and does it have a future type looking economy, right?
20:43Will this be here in 10, 20, 30, 40 years to continue to draw into that economy?
20:49So then going to the next slide, looking at the actual deal terms and how we got to that.
20:53So you'll see the real property tax abatement.
20:56This is on the building as well as on any of the improvements to that building.
21:01As you'll see, this is a relatively standard tool that we use for a whole variety of developments.
21:08It is 10 years because you're meeting some of the higher end of the capital investment in which we score projects, and it is 60% flat deduction.
21:15So it is looking to help offset from the financial stack the initial large scale investment in the project.
21:22This is why we do incentives for some of these longer term projects, but it's also looking to immediately recoup tax benefit for the city, right?
21:30To have them pay immediately from day one.
21:32Sometimes we do scale, you know, abatements going from 90 down to 10.
21:36There was a purpose to do a flat deduction that way.
21:39Looking at other tools that you see at the MVC that we are not, you know, getting into the state tools in a minute, we have a 15-year personal property abatement.
21:49So that is a 90% flat deduction, and this is what we call enhanced abatement.
21:53So for certain priority industries, uh, we have the ability, you have the ability to approve something beyond 10 years, up to 20 years.
22:00But again, this is an abatement and not an exemption, so there will still be tax paying on day one.
22:05And also for a technology that we're still trying to understand, uh, we want to make sure that there are important checkpoints.
22:12So why data centers live in long-term cycles, their contracts are usually signed for 10 or 15 years.
22:16This is to help offset that first cycle.
22:19Uh, beyond that, there will be a checkpoint at year 10 in front of this body to make sure that the technology is continuing to meet the standards and that they're in compliance.
22:29So it is an enhanced factor for the city to have uh a control and checkpoint over a technology that we are working through and looking at possibly having the first developments.
22:39As you know, the 5% of any tax savings in this case, because of the significant cap and investment will be quite large.
22:45That again is the 22 and a half million dollars, which exceeds 5% with that checkpoint in 10 years of an additional 10.
22:52Why we built that into the suggested terms is technology, the chips, the things inside, may exponentially increase in value.
22:59If we were meant or do a capture more tax revenue, we want to make sure that the inclusivity would match that.
23:06So this is what's putting in that checkpoint so we can recoup additional inclusivity money should our calculations change over the next five to 10 years.
23:16So again, why looking at this type of development and why we did not tap into some of the authorities that the state also grants us.
23:23So just to be clear, why you don't see a sales tax exemption, that is not within our mandate, that is the state's decision should they move forward that application.
23:32The state does grant the ability to do a 40-year tax exemption.
23:36We feel like given the value of locating in Indianapolis, uh, a full tax exemption would not be appropriate.
23:43We also feel from why this is a strong capital investment.
23:46Um we need to make sure we have guardrails and we can't see to the future to 40 years.
23:51So we did not utilize that tool.
23:53We also feel like tax impact is a signature of why data centers can be valuable for a city to provide funding for budgets for programs for things that make citizens' lives better.
24:04Um, and that without recouping some of that tax and offering a full exemption, we're not actually capturing the value that is inherent in these projects.
24:13So incentives can be a tool to uh get development that can be competitive, that can be long term, but also um, you know, and in this case it's providing regional competitiveness.
24:24This is housing, critical um data and features that our other companies in the area need, but it also creates a contract.
24:31So it's competition in some sense, but it's creating a contract and binding this company with the technology that we're continuing to evolve and look at to checkpoints to guardrails to making sure they deliver and that they're incentivized to develop the property fully to the highest value that it can do.
24:49So we look at something like this.
24:51I mean, it wouldn't have been proven in the 90s to you know incentivize telephone booths, but it would have been for cell phones.
25:00So when we look at the digital infrastructure, where those trends are in our economy, this is a significant area of growth that would set up that tax base for Indianapolis to continue to prosper in the future.
25:09If you go to the next slide, I actually there's a one pager right here that was handed out to all of you.
25:15This is a lot of information, but this breaks it down to what this means from an economic impact tax and community statement.
25:21Let's go back the slide.
25:27I want to be crystal clear.
25:30Today is just the introduction.
25:35And then we will set this up for a public hearing.
25:39So between today on the introduction and the public hearing, which would then again be again another up or no vote.
25:49These will continue to be discussed, and we can amend these if we don't think they're appropriate.
25:56One way or the other.
25:59Okay, I'm gonna make sure everybody understands it.
26:02All right, go ahead.
26:03So getting into what this means, and I really appreciate collaboration from DMD, the assessor's office, the controller's office, and the treasurer's office.
26:12Um, these are the terms of the deal when you think about the scope of investment.
26:15So again, it's 250 million dollars in real property, it's 406 million dollars in company, this company putting in personal property, the racks, the other structures, and then 7.2 billion dollars where the company's tenants would put in those chips and other valuable materials.
26:31So a very um, you know, all altogether 7.8 billion dollars.
26:35If you look at the current partial of land, these are some of the things we assess that impact.
26:39Um you can see the current assessed value at 137,000.
26:44Um, by the time the project would be complete, it would be 83 million dollars worth of land and improvements.
26:48So, right now that parcel generates um $3,700 of taxes.
26:53Um, even after the abatement, during the abatement turn, it would generate $900,000 a year in taxes.
26:59After the abatement turn ends, um, this would be $2.2 million in a yearly tax payment.
27:05So overall, if it were to stay in the same state, it would be $112,000 over 30 years.
27:10If we look at the 30-year production of the abatement term and then another 15, so basically doubling the long-term kind of lifespan of this, it would be 43 million dollars on just the real property tax on just the the land, the parcel, and the building.
27:25Getting into what the abasement abatement actually means in real terms.
27:28So looking at the 10-year real property and the 15-year personal property, by year five, that would put this company in the top 10 tax paying entities in Marion County.
27:38By the time the abatement done, if everything was still the same, it would put it as one of the top two taxpayers in Marion County for this single project.
27:46Um over the term of the abatement, $51 million would be paid in taxes to the city and county.
27:52Um, I want to parse out a little bit some of these bigger terms.
27:55The company itself would be receiving $56 million in tax savings.
28:00If you include that tenant over the course of the abatement, it is $399 million.
28:07And I understand that is a very big number for tax savings, but to put it into scope, um, if you look at the whole term between that and after the abatement, let's say we look at that 30-year life cycle again, they would be paying 300 just shy of 385 million dollars in taxes.
28:24So we look at the generalized tax rate, and just to note that money is new revenue that is not taken from somewhere, that is money that is coming from this development.
28:32Um, and we always look at proportion, right?
28:34So by 399 million is a lot, this is proportionate to 7.2 billion dollars uh of a total or 7.8 billion dollars of a total investment.
28:43To put in perspective IDI last year, all of our qualified investment, everything you all improved was a little bit over one billion dollars investment for the whole year.
28:51So that again is a different size and scale of investment and why we did this additional scrutiny to understand what it means.
29:00So on that top right value of land process return on investment.
29:04So that's the tax paid and the tax saved on real estate property tax.
29:09It is yeah, it is currently what that parcel generates.
29:13That's real estate property.
29:14Real estate property, that is only real estate.
29:15One below it value of the abatement is all forms of tax.
29:18All forms of taxes, yes, it's cumulative.
29:20Thank you for the clarification.
29:22And then again, what does that mean?
29:23When we look at our our taxing units, right, where does this money go?
29:27Um, schools in Marion County would receive 25 million dollars during the term of the abatement.
29:33Over the course again of that 30-year lifetime that we look at, it would be 186 million dollars to schools.
29:38Libraries would be 2.2 million with another uh again over the 30 years, 16.5 million.
29:44Um, and the county general fund again, you know, would recoup that um 384 million dollars uh over that time period.
29:53Again, the jobs are at 125% of the Marion County wage, and that does not include tenant jobs, so there is a workforce component in addition to the more significant capex.
30:05I'll pause for a minute because I know that is a lot of dense information, but I hope this handout will be something you can continue to reference.
30:12What will be helpful?
30:14You've been adding your notes on in several places.
30:1830-year total projection, 30-year with no development, 30 year, 30 year.
30:26I would suggest to you if it gets on the agenda that you need to focus on more of a 10-year window.
30:33Tell us what's going on in 10 years.
30:34In 10 year increments, yeah.
30:36Yeah, I assure you in 30 years, I ain't gonna be around.
30:39So I think you have a focus on 10.
30:42Okay, and it gives everybody a better idea in the short-term okay what we're doing.
30:47Okay, versus the 30-year deal.
30:50We were looking at kind of a longer term.
30:52I would say then if you look at that first number, that 51 million or shy of 52, that would be the taxes paid over the abatement term, which is between that you know 10 and 15 years given the accommodation.
31:04But well well noted, and we will be prepared to do that.
31:07Any other yeah, please.
31:09So on your due diligence grid, um community benefit commitments.
31:15Are those are those reflected in this project by the numbers, or is that something different?
31:22So here actually let's go.
31:23There's a little box here at the bottom of the one page here.
31:25If we could go to the next slide, that is on top of it.
31:28So that is purely tax revenue and how that is divided.
31:32Community benefits would be that inclusivity plan, that is the 5% savings.
31:36So again, that would be that 22.5 million dollars that is earmarked specifically for uh that community, and then it would be that additional checkpoint in year 10 to see if that additional 10 million dollars would be um you know added on for that full 32.5 million dollars over the period of the abatement.
31:54Um defined as so that's a great question.
31:58I would say some of the work we've done over the past month, and I appreciate uh to those who have been open to to hear and have a dialogue about this specific issue that the residents themselves of Brightwood, the people who are nearest and adjacent to this property, need to be centered at that conversation.
32:16So we've been going through various uh projects and things, whether it is um you know property and business owner support for those in the direct vicinity, and you know, more direct payments for that uh key infrastructure, so ones that they're choosing, certain alleys, certain lighting, certain tree trimming things that make that area better.
32:38Um there's a natural park that would need some security.
32:41So we are finalizing that, and I would say that is the work that is the most important between now and should there be you know a final hearing on this, so that there would be a workable you know plan that centers them.
32:56So that is the work that's 22 million roughly.
32:58Yeah, 22 and a half million.
33:03The community is not Marion County.
33:05It is not Marion County, it is specifically I would say Brightwood, the residents of Brightwood and that neighborhood, and then possible and then on again going back to your due diligence grid, uh, workforce commitments.
33:16Yeah, is that captured in this bottom right grid?
33:21That is the the minimum wage that they've done.
33:23I would say the company was gonna speak to they've signed a PLA, they've gone above and beyond just our standard requirement of 125% Marion County wage.
33:32But yeah, that would be something they've they've worked with.
33:38Last anybody have a question.
33:41Who's gonna administer the funds?
33:46That's a great question.
33:47That is the work that we are doing right now with the community to have a trusted partner entity.
33:52Um, I want to be respectful of those, but that would be information we'd have to use soonest um to do that.
33:57It would not be IDI, it would not be the company.
34:01That's an important fact.
34:02It is very yes, incredibly important, and I think that is a strong focus right now.
34:09Gentlemen, please introduce yourselves.
34:11And we're gonna run out of time, so get to the heart of the matter.
34:14We'll do we'll do so quickly.
34:15Yeah, good to be in front of you again, Ernest Popescu, uh CEO of Metro Blocks and my uh colleague and partner Scott Cousins, CO Metro Blocks.
34:28We've printed out a 30-page handout.
34:32We're gonna go through four or five slides.
34:34Um, and we'll again try to do so quickly so we can uh accord time for questions, which I think is probably most useful at this point, sir.
34:49Um we we tried um as best we could to hire locally um HWC engineering Weddlebro is our uh general contractor.
34:57We've gotten the support of John Hooker and the uh Central Indiana building trades.
35:01We're working through a PLA and our commitment is to try to attempt to hire at least 50% staff Marion County.
35:09Um we're working through the PLA and uh position or is it still being negotiated?
35:15It's still being negotiated right now, yes, sir.
35:17But your intent is you're committing to a PL.
35:20Our intent is to partner with John and Wetlebros and sign a PLA to hire local union.
35:26Um additionally, we've met with uh some of the carpenter carpenters um trade um offices, and uh we've committed to also helping develop a training program to up level and upskill uh the local labor.
35:42Um, and then we also intend to partner with IDI to try to hire local university grads.
35:47Again, the intent is to try to make this a local project as best as we can.
35:56Um I'll do this quickly.
35:58Our background, we're a small company, we're not a hyperscaler.
36:01This is intended for local data center, uh, last mile data delivery.
36:07Uh it's intended to be multi-tenanted.
36:10Um you know, beyond that, again, the the focus is on local um local uses, and I think there's a slide there after this, yeah.
36:20Um that's healthcare systems, it's educational institutions, uh, you know, companies that require low latency uh for local last mile data delivery, uh, uses of the data is you know um email, analytics, um, secure business applications.
36:39Again, our focus isn't to be a hyperscaler for self-serving purposes, our focus is to try to bring uh multi-tenant data center infrastructure to the community with local applications as best as possible.
36:55These are some of the differences between our project and some of the more traditional hyperscaler projects, you know, obviously the scale in terms of um thousands of acres or hundreds of acres to the 15 or so acres, power consumption in the gigawatts, you know, our project is uh going to receive about 75 megawatts of total power from AES.
37:16Uh water uh to closed loop water system, so there will be very little to no water consumption after the initial fill.
37:25Um there's no groundwater draw.
37:27We're not intending on using any groundwater, and again, the appearance we've taken a lot of pride in trying to develop something that aesthetically uh will integrate well into the community and look more like a commercial office building than a monolithic data center.
37:42So that water, that same water is cycled in the you you you should think of it as a refrigerator coil essentially.
37:50Uh and that that water is in the closed loop circular system.
37:53That's right, with very little water loss.
37:55I think it's estimated at around 5% annually, and it gets topped off on an annual basis as needed.
38:07Um I think thanks, Bruce.
38:08I think that's important for I I think we we we we you know, we uh we were asked why Indianapolis a few times and and why Martinville Brightwood.
38:18Uh you know, one of the things that I personally take pride in, and again, you know, we're a company of 20 or so growing.
38:24Um environmental um responsibility is critical to me, and there's a lot of greenwashing in the industry.
38:30I can't think of a better long-term sustainability play than to give a former industrial site a second act, a second use.
38:39Um that's part of what attracted us to the uh the this this parcel in particular.
38:44Also, with the fact that AES is able to provide and service it power, those are really the two things that you need for a data center, obviously, in the land, physical infrastructure, and the electricity to to be able to at least that capacity out to tenants.
38:59So, you know, again, there's more data as to why Indianapolis, but but specifically that that parcel, I think what was important to me personally and to us collectively as a small company was to be able to give this parcel a second life, uh give it a second act and have it be a uh you know good standing corporate neighbor to the local community.
39:26If you're talking about your tenants, but not talking in a traditional sense where you're saying I'm ranking you just 43 square foot over here.
39:37You're renting capacity in your equipment.
39:43So slight correction.
39:45So the development provides the space and power, the tenants provide the hardware.
39:52So what we're providing to the tenants is an unfurnished apartment, if you want to look at it that way.
40:00So they they will bring their own furniture, which in this case happens to be the hardware.
40:03So what we're providing them is a lease as the developer landlord for their hardware to be able to connect to literally circuits, plugs for power in space.
40:18So on the individual tenants going to come back and say, okay, I'm putting in 800 servers or whatever the case is, I want personal property that's on top of what we're already talking about.
40:33No, that that's a great point of clarification.
40:36So what we tried including that 7.2 billion is the tenant's personal property hardware investment, which we will administer.
40:44We as the company are signing up for the inclusivity program, the inclusivity commitment, which we will administer on behalf of the tenants.
40:51So it won't be an additional abatement ask from the tenants.
41:00All right, so I wanted to kind of consolidate and put in front of you the details of the project here.
41:05Um the site's about 15 acres, total building areas 332,000 square feet.
41:12We're uh going to invest 250 million in real property plus 46 million in owner personal property, and then we've heard it before.
41:19Um and then we expect the tenants to put in another 7.2 billion dollars worth in worth of investment in IT and compute equipment over the course of the 15 year abatement.
41:29Um it's 35 new jobs uh at an average of over over 46 dollars an hour, and then regarding the timeline for development, um we expect to have first power Q1 2029 with a full build out Q4 2031.
41:46And one point of clarification our intent obviously is to develop as quickly as possible.
41:52You know, we're at the um mercy of AES being able to provide us the power, and obviously you know the various uh you know procedural applications in order to bring the data center to to market, but all right.
42:06Now let me touch on some of the things that we've committed to.
42:09Uh we're installing enclosures and acoustic mitigation to meet noise limits at the property line.
42:15All mechanical and electrical equipment is going to be screened from the public right away and from the adjoining properties.
42:21Equipment testing will be limited between the hours of 9 a.m.
42:25Um our development is fully consistent with the information we shared with the community back on October 1st of 2025.
42:32And before we ever get to an improvement location permit, we're committing to a noise methodology report with property line decibel monitoring, and we'll submit final site landscaping and photometric plans and elevations for administrator approval.
42:47And all in all, we've gone above and beyond what's required because we take being a good neighbor very seriously.
42:57Um I wanted to show some of the campus renderings to see what it looks like.
43:02I think Ernest kind of described the you know pleasant office aesthetics, um the landscaping, the screening, the massing, it's all designed to fit inside of the in with the neighborhood.
43:15And then uh something I wanted to point out is on the top left picture here, but the generators are all tucked behind the building, fully enclosed and sound attenuating screening.
43:28We talked about the community commitment already, um, but I wanted to talk about that a little bit more here.
43:35Uh so we're committing to 22.5 million and community benefit and inclusivity funding for the first 10 years is 4.5 in the in the first year, 2 million in the subsequent years, um, and we talked about this, but it's gonna fund the local um local neighborhood.
43:51Um I want to be direct about our reasoning here.
43:54We chose the abatement route, not the exemption route.
43:57Uh we were choosing to contribute more than the minimum of five percent because good being a good neighbor is really important to us, and um, in terms of the importance of this incentive, it's it's hugely important.
44:11The the project probably wouldn't move forward without it.
44:15Um we're gonna have to attract tenants who have lots of options nationally for data centers, and this would be a key factor in them considering um investment here.
44:25And maybe if I can add one thing, lots of options nationally, but lots of options locally as well.
44:32Um if outside of Marion County, the same abatements, exemptions are awarded, it would you know make basically make this uh unattractive to potential tenants.
44:44So these incentives are of critical importance uh to data center development in general.
44:49Uh gentlemen, we're out of time.
44:53If this passes today, and if it gets on the calendar, you need to get us this presentation early.
45:00Um if outside of Marion County the same abatements exemptions are awarded it it would you know make basically make this um unattractive to potential tenants so these incentives are of critical importance uh to data center development in general uh gentlemen we're out of time that's all we have that was that if this passes today and if it gets on the calendar you need to get us this presentation early we want the same deck we want to see exactly what you're doing get it to us early let us have a chance to study it before the public hearing that way you're not handing us something walking into the public house fair enough I think what we've handed you today would probably doesn't change but maybe there's maybe there'll be some modifications make sure yes you might add to it uh jobs during construction yeah yeah for that that's a great point five jobs I assume it's an ongoing correct jobs during the construction period and what that period is yeah absolutely that that period will be three to four years and and and then there are estimate on jobs and three three to five for that period yeah and where we're at the ELA agreement yeah absolutely we we expect that to be in place understood uh thank you we've got a hearing at one o'clock thank you members of the commission I don't think we have any more questions any more questions we we good all right thank you and then who's John maybe hearing I don't know I was gonna take these down before yeah I will I have no idea