Good morning.

Today is Monday, May 4th.

This hearing of the local alcoholic beverage board of Marion County is now in session.

My name is Tyler Graves and I serve as the president of the board.

Today we will hear cases in speech.

Speedway, Beach Grove, Lawrence, and then the rest of Marion County, Indianapolis.

To my immediate right, uh representing the city of Indianapolis is Mr.

Peter Luster.

To my left is Bob, where are you at?

Speedway.

Yeah, representing the town of Speedway, Robert Staten.

And to my immediate left, appointed by the Indianapolis City County Council is Ebony Chappelle.

Serving as secretary of this board is Exise Officer Amy Sunier.

This meeting is being broadcast live on Channel 16.

It will be rebroadcast in several several times in the coming weeks.

You are on television and the board requests that you act accordingly.

At this time, please silence your cell phone so do not interrupt the hearing.

If you find it necessary to take a call or to have a conversation with someone here with you, please be respectful to step out into the hallway.

Here is the order in which we will conduct business this morning.

We will first ask individuals who have come to remonstrate to stand and come forward to the microphones hanging from the ceiling.

Give us your name and the name and address you're here to remonstrate against.

We will then hear cases on today's docket pertaining to the town of Speedway, City of Beach Grove, and the City of Lawrence.

Next, we will call all applicants or new for new or transfer applications on today's docket.

We will then call renewals on today's docket which have violations or remonstrators.

After we finish today's published docket, we will consider the cases that have been continued from a previous hearing.

All of those coming before the board today, whether you're an applicant representing the applicant, or are here to remonstrate, will testify under oath.

Officer Sunny will now administer the oath.

Going to testify before this board this morning, please raise your right hand.

Are neither of you testifying?

Do each of you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answer you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Thank you.

If an applicant should have remonstrators, it has been the practice of this board to accept one request for continuance from both the applicant and the remonstrator.

Should the board deem it appropriate, additional continuances may be granted.

Are there any remonstrators in the hearing room?

Detective Tiffany Harrison with IMPD remonstrating against end zone bar and grill 8311 North Michigan Road.

Pony Club Indy, uh 3551 Lafayette Road, and the point 2.0 3344, North Filing Tanomigo.

The pony and the end and then zone will both be continued to June.

Thank you.

Cool.

Uh which ones are continued?

Supposing an end zone are continuing the point we will hear too.

The point we will hear.

Okay.

Applicants appearing in Marion County are required to have four items before the board can hear your case.

We cannot, we will not hear your case if you do not have these four items.

Uh the first, the affidavit of compliance or posting the permit advertising sign from the ATC for at list at least 10 days prior to the meeting hearing.

The second, the affidavit of compliance or notice sent to the property owners and neighborhood organizations that you sent written notice to about today's hearing.

The third, the zoning affidavit obtained from the Department of Metropolitan Development.

And the fourth, the Marion County Tax Clearance form from the Indiana Department of Revenue.

If you do not have all of these items, please let us know when you come forward.

In addition to the required documents, if you are a new or transfer application, you are required to have a final inspection approved prior to your permit being made active.

I will give you my contact information when we call you forward and hear your application.

It is your responsibility to contact me to schedule that inspection.

I will not contact you.

All right.

Let's start in the city of Speedway.

This dudes town of Speedway.

Thank you.

Uh calling DL 492-1728, Kroger Limited Partnership.

15718 Crawfordsville Road doing business is Kroger, J 500.

Um renewal without violation.

Motion for approval.

Motion all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

RR 492269.

Dawson's on Maine.

LLC 1464 Main Street.

Doing business is Dawson's on Maine.

This is a renewal with violation.

By here with Dawson's.

Okay.

This is a new permit.

RR 494-3407.

Tootsie's chicken and fish LLC location pending.

Um I is he anyone here for Tootsie's?

Okay.

I spoke to him last week.

He thinks he has a location identified.

So I think he's going to wait and come back with the location.

Okay.

All right.

Well, there you go.

Have a great month.

See you next time.

There are no agenda items for Beach Grove, so I will call RR 4943671 Twisted Wings LLC doing business as Twisted Wings at 11657 Fox Road.

All right, thank you.

Good morning.

Nick Boyles with Bradford and Riley.

With me, I have Amand Dolly.

Wally owner for Twisted Wings.

Sir, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes.

Alrighty.

You have some questions we ask all first-time petitioners.

Just answer loud enough that we can hear it on the microphone, please.

Sure.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Uh Bradley.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

No.

Wait.

Yes.

I'm sorry.

Yes.

No.

Do you understand that an ex-ICE officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Probably not.

I didn't.

Yeah, it's a very small space, so I don't believe you don't have a bar area.

No, there's they're also still under construction there.

So finalizing the floor plan.

All right.

Um how big's your space?

1200 square feet.

What's your capacity?

Um about 30 chairs.

Okay.

How will you well tell us about the alcohol transaction?

How does that transaction take place?

Do you go to the table or do they come to the county?

We'll go to the table.

You'll go to the table?

All right.

What's your policy for checking IDs?

Um anybody who looks under 40 will clart them, will I do them?

Okay.

What happens if a miner does get served?

Thank you.

What happens if a miner gets served?

You serve somebody that works for you who serves a 20-year-old.

What happens?

We overlook everything.

I'll I'll personally be there.

So you'll be there every day?

Yes.

Okay.

But there are there are times where this has happened.

Um, like actually tons, like we see it every time we have this meeting.

So do you have a written policy for what happens to employees if they serve someone who is underage?

We will immediately take actions and um let them go and we'll properly train them again if needed to be so it's not an automatic termination.

It will be.

Oh, it will be automatic termination.

Yeah, no, no question to ask it'll be automatic determination.

When do you plan to open?

Um hopefully mid to July.

Okay.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All right, pal, good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Renewal calling DL 4926686.

Walter Company at Walgreens uh store number 05718 at 10845 East 79th Street.

Walgreens.

Renewal without violation.

Oh therefore I make a motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Okay, yeah, good catch.

Another renewal.

Uh calling RR4937384 Juicy Seafood Lawrence LLC doing business as juicy seafood at 10580 Pendleton Pike.

Renewal without violations.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Second.

And there's a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

All right, renewal with violation.

Calling RR 4936592.

Um 8501 Pendleton Club LLC doing business as Harem House at 8501 Pendleton Pike.

This one will be continued to June, and we will hear it in June.

There'll be no more continuances.

Good.

Calling RR4931124.

Mar Y Soul, LLC doing business as Mar Y Sol.

I'd probably not get that right.

8015 Pendleton Pike Suite C.

They requested a continuance.

All right, that takes care of Lawrence Beach Grove and Speedwood.

Peter, it's all yours.

Calling RR494 3477 TI Bliss LLC doing business as TI Bliss.

Address 5335 East Southport Road.

Anyone here for TIE Bliss?

Alright, so continue.

Calling RR494 3709, Coolan Enterprises LLC doing business as Indy Wings address 3623 Shelby Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

You have your paperwork?

Yeah.

Let's see what you have.

Okay.

Do you have the approval from zoning?

I'll just reading for the other email should be one day.

Okay.

We can't hear it without that approval back from them.

Okay.

Um the other thing is so you're missing your tax clearance.

This one needs to be completed.

Their address is on the second page.

Okay.

You need to take it to them, and I need their approval on this one as well.

Okay.

So I'm going to reset you for June.

Okay.

Umange sign posted.

Leave it up there if you change the date to June 1st.

All right.

So we'll continue to June 1st.

There's my email address if you have any questions.

Okay.

You're welcome.

There you go.

Thank you.

Calling RR494 3715 Sippy Social House LLC.

Doing business as Sippy Social House address 901 North Pennsylvania Street.

I like that man.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Yes, please.

What if they're calling that?

Do you call them Sippy Cubs?

Oh well.

He's trying to offer you some ideas, I suppose.

Okay.

Okay.

Do you have the approval from it?

So we'll have to continue to June, unfortunately.

Have you sent it to them yet?

Okay.

Okay.

It takes some time.

I just want to make sure it takes some time to get that.

Leave your orange sign posted.

Change the date to June 1st.

That's our next hearing.

We may watch them up.

Uh no, we'll do it.

Um I'll do them after your approval.

Here's my email address if you have any questions.

Okay.

Calling RR494-3778 Lily Bond LLC doing business as Lily Bond Community Living Room address 701 East McCarthy Street.

Thank you.

All yours.

Morning, Greg Genrick with Bradford and Ryan with me as Abby Record.

Hi, good morning.

Good morning, Miss Record.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

It is, yes.

All right, same thing.

Did you prepare this application application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Um no, Greg.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

I did.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in truthful manner?

They were.

Is there anything you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner?

No.

Did you list the other members on the application?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Yes.

Okay.

What is this?

It's equal parts cafe and community space, kind of a European-style cafe.

So coffee, sandwiches, beer and wine, art classes, yoga classes, things like that.

That's great.

Is this a setup as like a not-for-profit or we weighed that as an option, but it is um uh LLC small business.

All right.

Well, do you have a policy for checking IDs?

Yeah, every um everybody who looks 40 or under will have their ID checked.

Um we're a family-friendly establishment, so definitely want to keep everything kosher.

Um what happens if an employee of yours serves a minor?

Um we will review the incident, um, have kind of a uh uh, you know, retraining policy in place, make sure that um uh manager is on site with the employee in question to just reiterate um and have kind of a one one chance um uh to get it right, um, and then there will be termination.

Okay.

How many employees will you have?

Um we'll start with um probably eight um is the plan right now.

And what's the capacity?

Um per the fire marshal, it's 99.

Um we have seating for about 50.

Okay, and your hours of operation um to begin probably 8 a.m.

to 9 p.m.

is is what we've got listed.

Okay.

And why do you have one more?

What do you plan to open?

Um the goal is early to mid-June for a soft event.

Um I have two questions.

One, do you think you'll ever get into event rentals, like having people rent out your space?

So right now what we're planning to do is um anyone who wants to use this space, it will still be like an event that's open to the public.

So we're doing like live music and things like that, but no plans for like weddings or fully private events.

Got it, got it.

Is there any time during your hours of operation where um under 21 will not be allowed?

Or is it you know all ages all during the day?

Well, probably only for some of those like semi-private ticketed events, but when we're open to the public, it'll be all ages throughout the day.

Yep.

All right.

How does the alcohol transaction take place?

Um so everything will be ordered at the counter and where you know IDs will be checked, etc.

Um, and then um drinks and food and everything will be brought to the tables with like an assigned number sort of thing.

So it I'm looking at the floor plan.

So is this just a counter or what a service counter or we have an actual bar?

Both.

Yeah, okay.

Yep.

So there's the there's the service counter.

I guess yeah, that's there'll be two.

So people can order at the service counter if they're sitting somewhere else or if they want to sit at one of the six bar seats.

Um that's an option as well.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve?

Second.

Second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Great, thank you.

Moving on to transfer applications.

Calling RR494077.

Thank you.

Arlie Valdez doing businesses Vila's Publita, Mexican restaurant address 3815 West Washington Street.

This one has been withdrawn.

Calling RR4943207, the point 2.0 LLC doing business as the point.

This one has remonstrators.

All right, the point.

They may not.

Yeah.

But I mean the point piece.

Oh, yeah.

I see.

Is there anyone here from the point 2.0.

The point 2.0.

We withdrew and you withdrew it?

Uh yeah, we sent them their application as an above.

Okay.

Gotcha.

It's supposed to represent these house.

Okay.

And they have been under the hearing.

She wasn't here this morning.

I guess not.

Let me make sure they haven't actually withdrawn the application.

So it's been continued three times.

Um so they're well aware they need to be here.

Um I say let's hear it, hear the remonstrators without the applicant.

All right.

Come on up.

Captain.

All right.

And Amy, which month was this violation reporting again.

So this is a transfer.

So I'll listen to the transfer.

There has been a violation issued to the old permit because this uh company was working under an antagonist agreement, but it hasn't been settled yet.

So I'll kind of talk about some of those things.

The captain will probably talk about some of the things that are in there.

This is very good to have the applicant show up.

Oh, here's Captain Carter.

Um my name's William Carter, representing the Apple Metropolitan Police Department.

Our concern for the location was an investigation conducted by the excise police February 2020 of 2026.

She has the violation.

Would you like to read the violation and just or just have me testify off the violation?

Uh you okay go ahead.

The violation stems from a false ownership at the location.

The local location was bought by the Harneys.

And uh I believe the permittee is that actually purchased the location is the sister to a person that we believe was running the location named DeWan Harney.

We entered the location with the excise police about uh 11 p.m.

on February 20th of 2026.

The excise police did issue violations for um they did speak to DeQuana, D E Q U A-N-A, which is the sister to DeWan Harney.

Um there was people on site that stated that DeWan was actually the owner of the location, and he was not present.

She was present at the time.

However, it felt disclosed to the excise officers that she was the owner.

Our concern with DeWan Harney goes back to an after hours location that he was operating across the street at 6015 East 34th Street, pursuant to that investigation, which I started January 12th of 2020.

Mr.

Harney was arrested and charged with 14 counts of tax evasion, alcohol permits without a sell of alcohol without a permit, maintaining a common nuisance, uh federal met sales tax.

He did he was convicted of one count of that, uh fair to remit taxes held in trust.

Our concern obviously is that Mr.

Harney would not qualify for this liquor license, and as the location currently is being operated in through the excise investigation, we believe he's actually operating the location.

He's not on the manager's questionnaire.

He's not listed as one of the owners for the location itself.

So January 20th, 336 a.m.

Oscars responded to that location.

27-year-old female been assaulted at the after hours club.

That's what started my undercover investigation.

February 15th of 2020, I executed a search warrant at the location found Dewan Harney was operating.

He was later charged with 14 counts.

Even after being charged, DeWan continued to operate the after hours club.

IMPD officers respond at 143 a.m.

found on shots fired, they recovered 17 rounds from four different handguns.

Mr.

Harney identified himself as being in charge a month later, June 20.

I'm sorry, a year later, June 27, 2022 at 305 a.m.

Mr.

Harney is still operating in the club.

A month later again.

Even after being shot, Mr.

Harney continued to operate.

731, July 31, 2022.

Uh 540 a.m.

Four people were shot with over 100 shell casings found in the parking lot, and this was the red room lounge after hours club.

Pursuant to that, I consulted with the property owner, and he was evicted August 10th of 2022.

So again, our concern is that Mr.

Harney would not qualify to operate this liquor license.

He seems to be operating.

There are posts made on social media that it's his club.

Um the night that it opened, hey, it's the new club, it's my club, things like that.

So in addition to some of the things that Captain Carter brought up to your attention.

Dewan her brother is the owner.

Um they had some of the same concerns that IMPD has.

Um and they also sent attached to Facebook post where Daquana congratulated Dewan, and he replies how he couldn't have done obtained the license without her.

This is a transfer of out of application.

I spoke to the current owner, uh Roger Jenkins, um, who called me because at one point he had concerns they've been operating the under a manager's agreement.

Um they had not been paying the liquor wholesaler sale bills, and so he they uh and they owed him money, so he was concerned about that.

When I asked him who was running the place, he told me it was DeWan.

Um and then in addition to that, on the night that exercise went in, uh, she was present apparently sitting at the bar.

Um heard who they were, what they were doing, and failed to identify herself as an owner until he arrived.

Then during conversations with the two of them, he answered all the questions in the office.

There was nothing in the office that belonged to her.

Apparently, everything in the office belonged only to him.

And then probably the one other glaring thing that was very concerning was that the night that excised and IMPD went in there, the um promoter that was present that night had also been the promoter present when um the recovery room had their homicide, and when the round at the round table.

Two places we know very well.

Any further questions from the board?

During that, I'll make a motion to deny second.

All right, all those in favor say aye.

Uh do you need a do you need a reason?

Yeah, high and fine reputation order uh uh reason for our denial.

Yeah, um I'll do the same thing, reputation.

High and fine.

Uh nocent and I buy it.

Yeah, news is a good one.

But that I mean that that takes care of this, but he's just gonna pop up and keep doing this, right?

He doesn't seem to be like guys following the law anyway.

I hope not, but we don't I will also go with I and Fine.

All right.

Well, good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, go ahead.

Calling RR494-3422, IIY construction LLC doing business as location pending.

Um they requested a continuance calling R R 494-3499, 3 Agave's Mexican Grill and Cantina, LLC, doing business as three agave's Mexican Grill and Cantina, address 128, West Southport Road.

Good morning.

Good morning, good morning.

So were you sworn in?

Did you come?

Yeah, I thought I thought you came in right after.

We'll swear you in Thank you.

Go ahead and raise your right hand for me.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you have given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Good morning.

My name is Federal Arber, and this is Mr.

Francis Cogarcia.

Weekend last month, if he recalled, uh he leaves the location in a catch on fire.

Yes.

I got the target report.

And if people have those in if he recalled last since the building was total, I didn't do all the paperwork, but he told me even like that.

I need to know the war.

So my understanding is gonna take a little bit longer to reveal the building.

Okay.

Is your is your plan to stay at that location?

It's up to them, but uh, I think it's gonna take a little long because they have no interest on the building.

Okay.

So you're leasing the building.

Yes, I'm leasing the building.

Okay.

Um so you don't know and so you so the permit will go into escrow until the construction is complete, and you don't know when that how long that will be, right?

But what is the the plan is for a Mexican restaurant, family dining?

Let's do business two business.

Yeah, he's looking for another location.

Okay, so you may not end up in this location.

Probably not because like he says um the landlord doesn't have uh insurance.

Okay and now don't have enough money to build it right away.

Okay.

So it'll right now it's going into escrow, and then if there's another location identified, then you'll file a transfer of location.

That is they okay, and you have other you have other several restaurants.

They got one in um in Emerson, and they got uh Lemanun able Gembi Glemun Lewanong Wayland.

Good.

Everybody clear on this.

He's lost his building, and I can probably be able to rebuild so it'll go into escrow and then he'll go searching for space once he finds space, he'll come back in front of us and we'll we'll it'll be location pending.

All right.

Do we have a motion?

Motion approve.

Motion to approve, all second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Calling R R 494.

Oh, yes, sorry.

He had a question.

If we can find the proper place, then he can be able to sell the license to somebody else that can be used.

Um he has the option to sell the license.

Um I think it's just a two ten.

The other option is you know, once he finds a location, he can just do a transfer of location to the new address.

Yeah, his main concern, he's already looking for vacation, but he has in case I can find it proper place.

Yeah, it's a it's a 210, so it can be sold.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

No, Esther, with with that, there he can't, he'll have to sell it for what he purchased it for if he doesn't actually put it into use.

That's the only thing.

Okay.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Calling R R 494 3597, Quates LLC doing businesses.

Suite M and N.

Good morning.

Uh Jeff McKean.

I have with me today the two owners, husband and wife, um, Jose and Naali um Mendoza.

This is uh family Mexican restaurant on the south side near stop 11 in South Emerson.

Um scenic capacity about 160.

Uh they're looking open probably in the next 30 days.

Each of them currently run restaurants uh in Marion County.

Um they've held permits as long as nine years, no violations at either location.

So be glad to answer any questions.

Nine years, no violations.

Great job.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

What's your policy state for checking IDs?

Uh check everybody who looks uh younger than 40 should be carded.

And are you guys there?

Will you be there full time?

The two of you?

We'll be there like at least three times a week.

Three times a week.

What's uh the capacity?

I'm sorry.

About 160.

About 160.

Yeah, it'd be open from 11 to 10, except on weekends, 11 until 1030.

How many locations do you own together?

Two.

You own two?

Oh, so you guys look familiar.

You probably you were in here recently, weren't you?

She has Margarita Factory and he has lots of things.

We'll have this Mexican restaurant.

Okay.

Any other question?

Board, any questions on the board?

I'll accept the motion.

Most approved motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR494-3617 PWW Indy Downtown LLC.

Doing businesses hooters of Indy 3110.

Address 25 West Georgia Street.

Um they requested a continuance.

Calling RR494366.

They were missing their sign, so they will be continued.

Calling RR494 3672, TRICS LLC, address one 10030 East Washington Street.

Thank you.

Sure.

This or the gotta get it before we go on the water.

What are we doing here?

Transfer?

Yes.

So we're moving this license into your name?

Correct.

All right.

Uh is this your first license in the state of Indiana?

Yes.

All right, we'll ask you a set list of questions we do, everybody.

Just to answer loud enough, we can pick it up on the microphone.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Someone else.

Who was that?

Greg.

Great, yes.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

Not this time.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Correct.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and a church or school?

Yes, that I know of.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Carry out beer?

Not right now.

No.

No.

What about a limited separation?

No.

21 and over.

Nope.

Alright.

All right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, that's right.

Minors are allowed on the first level, not the bar.

Yes, so it is.

So there is limited separation?

Yes.

All right.

So is this a restaurant?

Correct.

Restaurant.

Okay.

What kind of restaurant?

Uh just a basic kind of like tavern, lounge, restaurant.

Bar food.

Barker.

Sit down, lamb chops.

You understand?

So we got a nice menu.

All right.

Um you have any policies for checking IDs?

Yes.

What's that policy state?

Well, anybody coming to the bar needs to be checked.

You're gonna check everybody?

They come up to a bar, they will be.

Unless unless we check them at the door first.

All right.

Like during the day, they may just come in and dine.

Sure.

When they get attached like nine o'clock, we start tightening up, scanning, make sure everybody's eligible.

But uh live music, entertainment, what's what's your plan there?

Are you zoned for live music?

Yes.

You are we have um got our entertainment permit.

We got a jukebox and all that stuff, so yeah, we did do our entertainment permit.

What's your position on promoters?

We don't like them that much.

I try to keep it.

Do you like them a little?

If they bring the right stuff, I don't bring the right stuff.

I think they basically kept what the former owner had.

He had an in-house promotion team, and they had a pretty good reputation, so I just stick with them.

We do all our promoting through them, and that's it.

And I also let them know that your reputation is there, you think, so don't go somewhere else and fighting and doing other stuff, Ms.

Fake, you can come back here and do the same thing.

You know, ultimately you can use whoever you want to use.

Just realize it's your name on that license, and we're gonna hold you accountable.

That's what happens with these promoters.

They have no accountability to anybody, then you gotta show up here and sit in front of the board, and that's it's your name on that license, all right.

Yes, sir.

Hey, questions on the board?

Do you have a question?

Yeah, what's the name of this business?

Tricks.

Tricks, okay.

Um is this open yet?

Yes.

It's already open.

Okay.

You're currently under operating under a manager's manager's agreement with the current owner.

Correct.

Correct.

How long have you been doing that?

About two months now.

About two months.

Yes.

Um are you managing the location yourself?

Correct.

So I asked somebody assistance, they kind of help do little things, but I'm the main manager.

Okay.

Who's Courtney Norwood?

Well, he's somebody we had just discussed when I was talking about buying the business earlier.

Asked me if he wanted to get into it.

It never really fell through, so we just kind of went unilateral.

Was X ice just in there and had a conversation with you?

Not with me.

Yeah, with Andy, Courtney, Mika, whoever's in the office at the time.

Which was just last week, right?

Correct.

And Courtney was there then?

Correct.

But since last week, you've decided he's not part of the business.

Well, he never was actually a part of the business.

We had discussed it.

Uh he had talked about being an investor.

He never went through with his whole ordeal, so that was dissolved.

But he's still identifying himself as an owner.

Well, I have it's a man named Keith running around, so he tell people, so people say whatever they want to say, but as far as signatures, name on anything, bank account, LLC, all that.

I'm the only one that does that.

You're the only one on paper.

But I also told him today that you don't need to be saying you're owner.

You know, you don't need to come around here no more.

You're saying things that's not true.

Uh that's basically what it was.

Who's Alexander?

I'm sorry, Anthony Mitchell.

He's my kitchen personnel.

Okay.

I think he identified Norwood as an owner as well.

Actually, I can control what people say, but they're not owners.

But typically people don't just, I mean, I if I'm in a a restaurant or something, I'm not gonna say, this is Mr.

Lester, he's the owner of this restaurant unless there's a reason for it for me to believe it.

I tell him, you can't be saying this.

This is not you.

I tell the staff don't listen to what nobody say.

It's just that we had an issue with the officer.

I notified my officer on staff and notified my security that this is not what he is.

Uh I told me he cannot come back there, he cannot be in the back nowhere.

Like you're saying things that's not true.

We already had this conversation before, and some people just don't get it.

So you had that conversation with him previously, yet still last week he identified himself as an owner to exercise of all critical.

Correct, correct.

And I don't know why he did that.

I had issues with that with my security by somebody else saying they owns it.

I'm like, I don't know where these people getting this stuff and I'm saying they own some and they don't.

But did any money transact?

Anybody give you any money?

I mean, some they're saying they're an owner of your own business.

You took your time and energy and resources, put it into this thing, and people are stepping on your name.

Well, in the beginning, we did talk about him making an investment.

You know, he did or he didn't, that's real.

No, he didn't fulfill it.

He didn't fulfill it, so he had a refund.

When was the refund?

Refund is not yet given to him.

Not yet given to him.

Yeah, well, he never was an owner on paper.

That's what I'm getting at.

He always gonna be an investor.

He's gonna be an investor, a small investor.

He never fulfilled it.

We never got our paperwork together.

So it never went through.

So what I told him is once I tally everything up and you say what I owe you, which you never gave me none, I'll cut you a check.

He never gave you anything.

No, he never gave me the complete amount.

Clue.

Complete amount.

Do you know what he gave you?

Why do you need him to tell you?

Excuse me?

You don't you don't know what how much he gave you that?

I know exactly what he, but he's saying hey man, I gave him some money to invest to give you some more.

I said, Well, no, I never received no doing this no more.

So therefore, I have 45.

What are you saying?

You did, you know, for like time, energy, you know, he cleaned up the room.

I said, so whatever you feel, your energy and your time was let me know.

You know what I'm saying?

But I'm the only one that's running this here.

I'm the only name, I'm more responsible for this stuff here.

And that was just that.

I said, You can't be an investor if you don't got the money.

So you you're a hundred percent owner?

Correct.

Okay.

So at any time, did you tell Xise that he was that that information was incorrect and he was not an owner?

X has never asked me.

I'm sorry?

Never asked.

They never asked me.

My staff told me, said why you tell me PB the owner and this and I said, Oh no, what's wrong with that man?

We gotta get that taken care of.

And that's how that went.

So we resolved that whole issue this weekend.

But Xy's had conversations, he was still present in the bar last week.

That's my that's my issue.

You're saying he's been told he's not gonna be part of this business.

But yet, just as recently as a week ago, he's still in there operating in.

He came down.

He lives in another state.

Uh-huh.

He came down unannounced.

I asked him, what is he doing here?

He said, Oh man, we'll just come down and talk to you, see if he can invest and you know, get in.

I said, that's over with.

We talked about that months ago.

He ain't called, he ain't sent no letters.

I said, I ain't used the dog on money, you know.

That's the point of me trying to get some help.

I said, but I ain't used his money, so that's over with.

You have to know the man to understand, you know.

Because he sometimes don't take no, well, why I can't do this, or why I can't do this, why I can't do this, why I can't do this.

Yeah, but he's not sitting here.

So you know, our criteria revolves around you.

Correct.

And that's where I'm just really hard.

If somebody walked in and said, I'm the chairman of the ABC, I'd say, No, no, you're not.

I mean, that would bother me.

That's that's my title.

You're the owner.

Um you're letting it seems like you're letting this guy just kind of tell people a couple people saying they own your business.

Well Officer Sunier, are there concerns with those other people that you mentioned?

Like, let's say that in a different scenario, all the paperwork was right, they were listed as additional owners.

Is there any concern with their criminal background or anything like that?

Um, Norwood does have a criminal background, but he doesn't have anything that would automatically exclude.

Yeah, if I remember correctly.

Okay.

Um there's another name that showed up on some paperwork, which was Felicia Warfield, who's Felicia Warfield.

She won't do my paperwork for me.

Does she have any ownership in the business?

No.

Because she showed up on the health department paperwork as being an owner.

They made a mistake on that, we told them.

She's not, she just did my LLC, and when we went up when we did our um kitchen thing, they put in her name, like, why y'all doing this for it?

She's not on there.

So either read the paperwork wrong or some type of error.

Yeah, she's on the uh on the Secretary of State's what uh uh paperwork as well.

As an incorporator lady, right?

Yeah.

But she shows up, showing she showed up as an owner on the health department inspection.

But she got a clean background, so I mean, it would be no reason why I wouldn't put her on there, it just wasn't her own.

She just did my paperwork for me.

When um so when X ice came in, they were doing an investigation, and to be very, very clear, they did not issue a violation.

They did not find my violation.

However, um they needed some video surveillance from the bar.

Who got the video surveillance for them?

Hmm.

I think recent information over.

I set up a time for them to come and see it because we couldn't find the thing that they were looking for.

I don't know what y'all looking for, so we set up a time.

I have uh any none to make sure he was there at that time.

We do got a home health care business, so I do do clients.

That's when they was there cleaning up, and I guess it's when they had the conversation, but we made it a bankable between our staff and to come in there and look through the records.

Okay, how did this weekend go?

One day we had a little head to get spilled over outside one day, but our Fridays or Sundays was perfect.

Was there an incident with an IMPD officer getting hurt?

I didn't hear about no IP officer getting hurt.

You didn't hear about that?

No.

Your staff wouldn't tell you.

You're the owner?

My sergeant would tell me if he got hurt, so I didn't nobody tell me.

I hired a company, sergeant runs it.

Uh Nate and something goes on, he'll let me know if I need to increase security.

So no one told me about anybody getting hurt.

And I don't have any details, so I don't know what happened.

I just know that there was an IMPD officer that was battered at that location this weekend.

Okay.

Well, I saw that.

Whether or not there's any fault of the bar, I don't know.

No, I'm just saying, Sarge didn't tell me that, so and I seen him after everything.

So we what we came up with, we had two officers now.

Uh at a female guard on the inside or two, because that's where it started with women around the bathroom.

So we seen the problem, got some better cameras, face recognition.

We do have a hand scanner, putting names in, people posting stuff on Facebook that's not accurate.

We put them in there so we have more process of filtering these things out.

Was I and PD there working off-duty security for you, or did you have a as private security team?

It was off-duty?

Yes.

And there was a you said there was a fight between females back by the bathroom?

Correct.

That's what started it?

I believe so.

I don't know if we separate them, you put one out, we try to let them cool off.

It's already like two o'clock.

We saw letting people out.

We told the officers what was going on, said run them out.

We ran them out before you know it was a fight on the other side of the parking lot, not our immediate area, but over there.

So we don't know they come from our spot, somewhere else, but it was a fight out in the parking lot for females.

Is it is your bar the only business that's operating at 2 a.m.

in that strip mall?

No, we have an event center that does that too.

There's an event center in the mall or in the strip mall?

Not in the mall, so in the area across from the mall, strip mall, whatever you want to call it.

Where you guys are?

It's the event center over there.

What kind of restaurant?

Some kind of restaurant?

Yeah, maybe sit down and eat.

I mean at 2 a.m.

You got fights and need two security?

Well, seems like an interesting you gotta come and check it out and you'll see.

I don't know, but for real, for real.

Y'all come check it out.

No, no, you sit down, people go to the bathroom, they have shooting at any place.

You know what I'm saying?

So it's not unheard of people fighting for some reason or another.

You know, I've seen some stuff at these Texas roads.

Saturday a long time.

So yeah, so we ain't, you know.

Uh, but the point is, we took the corrective actions, we did the things that we feel would make it smoother.

We've been running for two months and had these type of incidents.

So we think we can identify where it came at.

We need to have another woman searching the bathrooms, watching faces, watching body film, you know.

So we train and try to keep those things down.

So you said you've been operating for two months?

Correct.

Well, they've been operating longer than that.

I've been in control for the city.

Yeah, you you bought it.

So who's the previous owner?

And is this the is this the name of the old business or the new business?

The old business was bubbles.

The new business is tricky.

Do you remember the guy that's really hard of hearing?

We have to yell at him when he comes in.

That's Ray.

That's the old owner.

Yeah, okay.

Or the current owner.

Yeah.

See, the strange thing about that, real quick, like the kitchen was in somebody else's name when we got it.

It wasn't in Ray, it was like somebody else's name.

So I don't know how they'd be getting that stuff all switched up.

We found that out when we got it switched over to our name that wasn't even Ray names in somebody else's name.

So what made you want to purchase this?

Because I like entertainment.

I like food.

I needed something for us to do, you know, investments, uh things of that mention.

Yeah.

Well, I hope you're right.

I don't know.

I'd never invest in one, but um, any further questions from the board?

But I think I just think that there's some cleaning up administratively that has to happen.

I saw a situation like this similarly with a restaurant where um online the son was saying that he owned it and was speaking on behalf of it, and like really messed up some stuff for his parents who actually own it.

So it's like that kind of stuff happens, um, but it's not good, it's not a good sign.

No.

So believe me, we clearing it.

Yeah, we clearing it up.

So my thoughts this kind of a smoke fire scenario where there's smoke, there's fire on this board.

We've we've got a pretty good sense of things.

I have a lot of concerns.

I don't think I have any reason to deny you.

I think you got a clean record, and we've got two months here, but we've got excise out there already.

You need two security members for a restaurant.

I mean, that seems but uh I've said my piece, I guess.

I have grave concerns, but we'll uh we'll hear what the rest of the board has to say, and then I'll make a motion.

Peter, you got anything you want to add?

No.

All right.

Well, with that, do we have a motion?

I make a must to approve.

All right, I'll follow you.

Uh I'll second that.

Um you got a lot to do.

You got a lot of people who think they own your business, and that gives me grave concern.

I've never seen that.

Well, one dude owned it before I always do.

I think you got kind of mental issues.

But he's not sitting in front of me, you are.

I know, but I'm saying I can't control what everybody's saying.

You know, that's what I'm getting.

Well no.

I mean, I'll tell you, nobody's gonna say it through me.

So did you inherit these people that are saying that they're the owners?

Like, were they around before you got there?

One of them I didn't can't inherit it.

One of them I did can't hear it.

The other one, like I said, it was initial start-up, like what are we gonna do?

Do you want to get involved a little bit or not?

You know, but at the end, no.

All right.

So there's a motion and a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed, say same side.

Aye.

I yeah, I'm feeling like do we have the possibility of a one year or are we not at that point yet?

Uh you you can do one.

Yeah, I would like to make a motion for a one year.

Okay.

Does that change you?

I can go for one.

There's a motion for a one year, is there a second?

There's a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

What this does is and we still have one opposed.

You've got 12 months and a lot to do.

All right, best of luck, Valkyrie.

Thank you.

My vote is based purely on the fact that I'm not sure that I'm satisfied with the fact that you're the only owner.

Um, but the board's voted for a one year, so that gives you a year to show us that you are the only owner that um Courtney Norwood is no way involved in your business because if you come back a year from now and we find that that's not true, you will be denied.

I I I I don't want to speak for the board, but most likely.

No, you can't invest.

Yeah, I will be denying at that point.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR494-3679, Brasica, Indiana LLC doing business as Brasica, sandwiches and salads, address 8702, Keystone Crossing Suite VC 01B.

They requested a continuous calling DL493-4517, Body Brothers Inc.

doing business as Stoney's Liquors.

Address 5135 East 10th Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I have Jatinder Singh Baki, um, owner for Bosch Brothers.

Um, so this is he's taking over the um uh old Stonebreaker permit over on 10th Street, um, Stoney's liquor store.

It's been there since um probably three decades before I was born.

Um so it's been there for ages.

Um he's been operating off of a manager's questionnaire um for a while, and Mr.

Stonebreaker did pass away um, I believe earlier this year or so um finalizing the transfer documents.

Sir, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes, sir.

All right, here we go.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Uh Greg.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to this application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

No.

Did you list the other members?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and a church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carryout privileges?

Yeah.

Are you applying for limited separation?

No.

All right.

What's your policy for checking IDs?

Um well it's a liquor store.

Anybody 21 or over can enter, and uh anybody pays to be 40 or younger public check.

Okay.

Do you have an ID scanner at your POS system?

Or so it's for the um the cashier to check every ID as people come in.

Okay.

What's your policy if somebody does serve or sell to a minor?

Um I mean we retrain and uh uh report to the proper authorities.

So you would retrain them and then report it if you're gonna be able to do that.

I mean reported, retrained.

Okay.

And is that written into your policy?

Um here's a reason we asked.

Okay.

If you hire people and you don't tell them how something's gonna take place after an event, then you're you're kind of in the spot there.

If you tell them if you do not check IDs and you do serve a minor, I'm gonna fire you.

Correct.

And if it's a written policy and they put their initials, you put your initials, nobody feels bad.

You told them what they had to do and they didn't do it, right?

All right, how many employees will you have?

Um it's myself and uh two other my wife and uh employee.

Okay.

And you'll be there every day?

Um my wife and I.

And you had two other permits previously?

Um I had uh one, two, three, four, five.

Five.

Um they all gas stations or are they can be or are they can be stores?

I do own a gas station, but it this is a only liquor store.

Okay.

You've had a couple of violations on your gas station.

Um I think it was the zoning.

No, violations from exercise for furnishing to a minor.

Selling to a minor.

Well, I bought this place in 2016, I think it was way back.

Okay.

There was one in 2014 and one in 2023.

So the one under 2023 was definitely under the moment.

Yeah.

Do you remember what happened then?

Um I think I had an employee who sell it to a minor.

You think?

Uh I mean, he did.

Okay.

Sorry.

What'd you do to the employee?

Um he's gone.

Because of that issue?

Um, that and also theft.

That'd be good.

So you have a total of five currently open, by businesses currently open?

No, no.

Umployees that I had had there were five permits.

Yeah.

But it should be only two.

You only have two now?

Yes.

Okay.

So you'll be spending your time going back and forth between just the two locations.

Gas station and liquor store, yes.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none.

Do we have a motion?

Most true.

Motion to um yes, motion approval.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR494 3779, ISLI Enterprises LLC doing business as Greeks on 16th address 1601 Columbia Avenue.

So that's big George.

There is no sign posted for this location.

And anyone here for Greeks.

Calling RR494781, Capital City Golf Management, LLC, doing business as Thatcher Golf Course address 4501 West Verbot.

Oh is that the one across the signature from Europe?

I never played asking.

Yeah.

Oh, it's a winner.

Okay.

Perfect.

All right.

Thank you.

All righty.

Nick Royals Bradman Riley again with me.

I have Brian Crouch.

Um he is the manager for Capital City Golf.

Um this is a transfer of ownership.

This is the Thatcher Golf Course over on Vermont.

Um he's actually also the seller of the permit.

Um this Capital City Golf got the city contracts, and so he's staying over on as a manager.

Um just to could continue working there as well.

Um so they've had um no violations uh since I want to say the last one was 2012 or 2014.

Um so no history of issues.

So what was that one for?

Um I don't remember.

It was hard to find clean records going back that far.

Um I could just see that it there was a violation written.

Um it was yeah, in the early 2010s.

Were you there at the time?

Yes, I was.

Do you remember what the violation was for?

Uh serving a minor.

Serving a minor.

Yeah.

Excise came in.

Minor came in, uh employees served, and then excised came in after that and said, Did you serve this and showed a picture and compliance?

Yes.

So did the city run this at first that and and you work there?

It's a city parks golf course, and all the city parked golf courses are privately leased by management companies.

So I I get that, but was it before you b what was it before?

It's always been a city golf course.

I'm saying was it privately managed before you got it?

It's and then you had it since uh the what eighty.

Oh, he's been had it.

Yes, yes.

So what what's this transfer?

This is this transfer is to so he's the manager under the new company.

So Capital City Golf, they have the city contract.

Um and they are currently already operating at the other uh five or six locations.

Um this was just the last one that needed to get transferred over.

Yeah.

What did you do to the employee who served a minor?

Well um we had a conversation.

Uh he was a great employee.

Um retrained as or considered what happened.

Uh we didn't we didn't let him go.

Um so what's the policy now?

Policy now is that anybody that comes in look appears under 40 years of age, we ID them.

Uh if it would happen again, uh because of our training, then we stressed upon everybody to ID.

Um I would say it'd be considered the same way.

I don't know that it would be immediate termination.

Um we've got some great employees and loyal um, but there'd have to be some kind of the ID in the clubhouse?

Yes, we do.

And what about at outings when like beer carts and that kind of we really don't have outings?

Yeah, we're a little nine-hole golf course.

Okay.

We maybe have two outings a year.

Um I don't know that we would have anybody under 21 years of age in a outing.

How many employees do you have that are are able to sell alcohol?

I believe we have five or six.

And they all have employee permits, yes, server training certificates.

Yes.

You have yours?

Yes.

You have copies of all those?

Yes, I do.

They're all current.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Look.

Thank you.

Calling R R 494 3782 seasoned soul food bar and grill.

LLC doing business as season so food bar and grill address 7820 Michigan.

All right, so 78.

So 79.

Is that like called memories or something?

Oh, it's this.

Oh, this is gonna be memories.

Uh we don't.

Famous spot.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Nick Royals Braft Finally again.

With me, I've Janet Alexander.

Um she is the owner for seasoned soul food.

Um, yes, as you say, she's taking over the old memories location.

Um that was closed down uh I believe late or mid last year or so.

Um, and so she is um taking uh taking over operations.

She's uh this is her first alcohol permit in Indiana, but uh she's been running a very successful food truck um that she is now expanding into a larger space.

Oh good for you.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

No.

Um did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes, sir.

All the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner.

Yes, sir.

Is there anything that you wish to add to this application?

Not at this time.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes, sir.

Uh is there at least 200 feet between your premise and a church or school?

Yes, sir.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes, sir.

And are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Later.

Yeah, we haven't submitted one yet, but we may um submit that after.

Applying for limited separation?

No.

Yes.

It's on the application.

Yeah, we're gonna amend that actually.

She's decided to go uh twenty one plus.

Okay.

Okay.

So it'll be a 21 and over establishment.

Yes, sir.

How will you handle security IDs just to make sure that's all?

Um I plan on hiring um security to make sure that everybody is complying with the rules and the age guidelines.

Okay.

How many employees do you think you'll have?

As many as it takes to be successful.

What's the capacity of your space?

It's a pretty big space.

Maybe what?

So how many how many patrons can you have in there at one time?

Um I'm not sure.

I know the fire commercials come out on Wednesday, so they're gonna let me know exactly the amount of people that's allowed in the space at one time.

So he hasn't been out there yet.

No, Wednesday.

He's supposed to come tomorrow, but he just texts me and asked me Wednesday, so no, no ma'am.

Okay.

When do you plan to open?

I am shooting for like the weekend of the 23rd, the end of this month.

Okay.

Um and you haven't hired yet?

Um I have applicants, but I'm very detailed of bringing professional people in.

Like I want it to be successful, so I'm just not hiring anybody.

So I'm taking my time with staff.

And as the owner, you'll be managing this location yourself?

Yes, ma'am.

Data everyday day day to day will be all you.

Yes, ma'am.

For right now, until I can hire qualified people to bring on to help me.

Okay.

Any re any relationship to Tanya Davis at all?

I don't even know who that is.

Okay.

Well, did just describe uh what you're opening to concept, food, all of that.

Can you repeat your question?

Uh describe the experience, the concept, the restaurant, just describe what you're opening up.

Um I would I am opening a bar and grill.

Um, and so we will serve food and alcohol, and then um later in the evening, nightclub.

Okay.

What about promoters?

I'm not too fond of uh you're gonna use them?

Probably not.

Okay.

And then what is your policy for checking IDs?

Everybody that looks under 40 will be checked, but I'm also installing like act um ID scanner.

You're gonna get a scanner?

Yes, sir.

Good for you.

Uh how long have you had your food truck?

One and then two, what made you want to go from a food truck to to doing this?

So I have been cooking for years.

I've had my food truck with catering since 2018.

So I just used to do um big events.

Um I'll be at the Horseshoe Casino on the night for a big catering um event with my food truck.

And so um just the experience, like I just feel like I can bring good energy to the city and a good place for adults my age to have a nice time.

And I'll say there have been really really strong reviews on her food as well.

Her food has very strong views as well.

And I also have my food truck outside of the bar.

So you'll be serving food um like outside in the truck and inside as well?

Yes, ma'am.

So the people that um under 21, they don't feel left out.

So they can go to the truck.

And I do sell food on Sundays.

Got it, yeah.

What's the name of the food truck?

Uh season to your taste.

I'm on Instagram.

What hour?

What hours do you what hours do you think uh you'll have the food truck out in the parking lot?

So the food truck operates currently Thursday, Friday, Saturday, from five until late night.

So I'm there to like one, uh maybe two o'clock in the morning, and then Sundays, I double back from one to seven.

My only concern is that we see a lot of parking lot issues after midnight because of people gathering outside where the food trucks are.

Not saying it's the food trucks' fault.

That gives them a reason to be there.

Um, especially juvenile, you know, we had a lot of trouble with juveniles, people that can't aren't old enough to be in the bar, 17, 18, 19 year olds.

So how will you ensure that there's proper security for late night, especially having that food truck because you're gonna have people that are loitering in your parking lot with the food truck there?

So your question is how are you going to handle security late night, especially outside?

I can give specific security for the food truck area because I do want people to be safe and secure, even when coming to purchase food mixing with the 21.

Well, the club is not gonna be 21, so it's gonna be like 35 and up so with that crowd.

Yeah.

That is a concern of mine too because it's a huge parking lot.

It's a huge parking lot, and then there are other businesses in the area that are open late at night, having events and stuff like that.

Um so I just worry about like congestion and how that increases the possibility of stuff going on.

So just I mean, we can't tell you that you can't do that, um, but it's just something to keep in mind because a lot of times the violations that we see in here are things that happen on the parking lot while a club is open or while it's letting out.

Um so it's just something to keep in mind that it could, you know, come back and reflect on the business, whatever's happening in the parking lot.

Um as far as your hours of operation, are you gonna be running kind of the same thing as memories did where they would have like sp like events and music and all that inside?

Or how's that gone right?

Yes, ma'am.

It'll be the same way.

Okay.

And then how late will you be open?

Um, which days of the week?

Um right now, I'm gonna say uh the nightclub will be Thursday, maybe Thursday through Sunday, but everything else will be like just dine in the week.

Okay, and then what would those dine in hours be during the week?

Um probably twelve no probably like twelve.

I haven't really put his gifted together.

Okay.

Got a lot of questions still kind of out there for wanting to open here soon.

Okay.

Yeah.

I did notice there's a sign because I drive by there, there's a yard sign out that's saying now hiring.

So I have at least seen that.

Oh maybe clear on the rules and responsibilities that come with having this license.

Yes, uh.

And you are the only owner, the one that's really running it, you're really the one that's gonna be making these decisions.

Yes, sir.

I mean, I don't have any reason not to believe that, it's just with a lot of your hesitant answers, it makes me wonder if someone else is the one that's making these decisions.

No.

Okay.

I just want it on the record.

I'm not from Indianapolis, so I don't know too many people.

And the people that I do come in contact is from my businesses, and so I'm very strict with keeping business and relationships separate.

So I don't I don't even know who owned the building before me.

And I don't entertain what happened before me, because that has nothing to do with it.

Sure, and I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about the fact that you're wanting to open here soon, but you don't know how many employees you want.

You haven't started an interviewing yet.

Um, you're not sure exactly what the hours of operation are going to be.

You have, yeah.

Okay.

And I have potential applicants, but they have I just I just got to be sure that they're the right people.

And I just bring in people in just to operate my business to have a body.

Sure.

Do we have any reason any uh things on our side as far as like why memories isn't open anymore?

Like that they have any violations.

They have a they had a violation, which we're gonna hear next month.

She's she's not purchasing their permit though.

Correct.

Got it.

This is a different permit.

Okay.

So that'll be completely separate.

Um the only thing that's that's the same is that they she's leasing the space they're releasing.

Got it.

Okay.

All right.

Well, this thing will operate just as you, you know, the owner says.

And that's what we see every time.

The owner sets the tone.

They do a good job or they don't.

With that though, uh, if there's no further questions, I'll accept a motion.

I got one.

Must approve.

Motion to approve.

There's a second.

I'll second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Best of luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR494-3795 outside NOMA LLC doing business is blue.

Where's Columbia?

It's in a neighborhood.

It's okay.

I'm trying to think of any of that.

There's another restaurant that's reaping the phone.

Lisa McKinney with um Bozeman Evans representing outside Noma.

Yeah.

You're the owner?

Yeah.

One of the owners?

One of the owners.

Yes.

First time?

He has another permit in Sullivan.

Sullivan County.

True.

Yeah.

So a restaurant permit there.

Yeah.

And then this would be his second one.

This is going in at a location on Columbia that was gonna be a distillery, really cool building, but they ran out of money and couldn't afford it, and then uh so he took over the lease, right?

Yeah.

So hoping to open in June or July.

And uh yeah, end of June, beginning of July.

Right, right.

How long have you had your license in Sullivan?

Uh like 15 years.

How many violations?

Uh I think one.

For what?

For serving a minor.

What'd you do?

Uh we retrain the person.

Okay.

And yeah.

We have the policy.

We went over the policy.

Okay.

So it's gonna have written policies in place so that people can there, his employees hoping to have about 10 employees in this location.

Um it will be over 21.

So they'll be carting the hostess will cart at the door, and then also at the bar, anybody drinking.

So on the weekends especially, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, when the busy times may be just the host, well, anybody who orders, anyone who looks under the age of 40.

Um, and then as he stated for the it's not a medium immediate termination.

If he has good employees, he wants to try the possibility of retraining.

I'll and you'll have the scanners and your identity.

And you have in this this this is a it's a really nice location.

Um fairly large, 150 people can fit into it into it for this restaurant, but there's cameras throughout it and and also outside.

So it's got a fairly sophisticated um security system in place already.

Yeah, um, and then um you can tell them a little bit, you have everything.

It's like uh cocktail small plates kind of lounge, super chill.

Um, yeah.

So everything from yeah, you're as he was sitting back there, all your discussion about shootings and everything terrify terrified him, as it should.

But uh charcuterie board, um is uh you know, shrimp cocktails, soups, kind of the salads, the basics.

Yeah, what are the hours of operation?

Uh so uh Monday and Wednesday and Thursday from four to midnight, and then uh Friday, Saturday from uh four to two a.m.

and then on Sundays will open earlier from two to midnight.

Are you planning to use the outside space behind the building as well?

Uh yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

And what will you do with that late?

You have live music or uh we we have a we just got a new like speaker system, so we'll be doing that, but again, in the future we kind of want to get like a guitar player or like a piano player, or maybe also like a DJ just to music.

It's not gonna be any promoting or anything like that, and then we'll have to get a license to look into whether he wants to get a live entertainment permit or not at this point, no, but but like to have like something just like a guitar player, that kind of thing.

Yeah, I remember doing the inspection for the previous owners.

It's a it's a very interesting space.

It's like yeah, it's super yeah, it's really really cool.

And and then just the garden center next to it, they did an incredible job.

So yeah.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Well, wait a minute.

We got no budget yet.

Oh second.

Motion and a second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Now you go.

Thank you.

Now we can go.

Calling R R 494-3805, Squirrels Nest, Bar and Grill LLC doing business as a squirrel's nest, bar and grill, address 5560 Brookville Road.

I like that squirrel nest.

To my son's hair looks like my son's hair looks like he's got real cool.

Oh nice.

Morning.

Good morning.

Tell us about the name.

Why squirrels nest low?

Because I'm a squirrel.

All right.

I've adult ADHD and I'm everywhere.

So with Bradford with me is Yvonne Keene, one of the owners.

Miss Keene, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

All right.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone prepare it for you?

Craig prepared it for me.

Do you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No, sir.

Are you the only only owner of the business?

There's a member.

Did you list the other member on the application?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand their next ICE officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes.

Are you applying for limited separation?

No.

No.

All right.

So what kind of place is this gonna be?

It's a barn grill.

A barn grill.

And what are your hours of operation?

Um Sunday through Thursday, 10 a.m.

to 12 a.m.

And then on Friday and Saturday, it's 10 a.m.

to 1 a.m.

Okay.

Got it.

Um I think that's it for now.

What about entertainment?

Uh we do do live entertainment.

Um occasionally once a week.

Currently once a week we're doing it on Wednesday nights.

Is that a band usually they're usually bands or a local?

It'll be one or two people.

Any need for a promoter?

No.

Absolutely.

I am a promoter.

I am my own promotion.

Yeah, there you go.

Uh tell us about checking IDs.

Um currently they're checking anyone that does not look 40 years of age.

What happens if one of your employees does serve away?

Termination.

Written policy?

How many employees will you have?

Um currently I have five bartenders.

Well, you do have three cooks on staff as well.

So the transaction for alcohol people have to come to the bar in order, or will the bartenders like have to have some of them floating around at tables?

How does that work?

The bartender will either they'll either come to the bar or the bartender will go to the table.

Okay, and at that point they'll be carded.

Yes.

But they're not carded when they first walk in or anything.

Okay.

How often will you be there?

Um, currently I am there anywhere from twelve to fifteen hours a day.

Who is Scott Keene?

Scott Keene is my husband.

What's his involvement in the bar?

No involvement.

No, no, none at all.

He's promoting on Facebook.

As as owning the bar?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

He's been told multiple times.

I'm looking at a video on Facebook right here that if I played it, he's going to say the bar that my wife and I own.

Yep.

He is on our explain that to me because I have a hard time.

It's a second second person today to say.

Well, he is not the owner.

He to know Scott King to know that he is social media is his thing.

It gets him in a lot of trouble.

You know, I have repeatedly told him he's not on any paperwork, he's not on any of the lease agreements, he's not on anything.

He's not on the purchase order, nothing.

Is he in the room?

No, he's not.

Is there any concern with Scott being listed as an owner?

The complaint that I received said that Scott along with this video says that Scott owns a parking lot or a car lot.

Is that correct?

And that he currently has a tax protest against that.

Has a what?

A tax protest?

I'm not sure about that.

And if that's the case, that would be the reason why they wouldn't disclose him.

Couldn't get past it.

Got it.

Well yeah, that is uh that's a major concern because you like do you see where that puts us?

Absolutely.

And then when you say that his social media gets him in trouble.

I mean, that's day one.

He's just so I know.

Yeah.

So we have uh uh a husband and wife scenario where the husband's adjacent to the license.

I mean they're married, they live together, it's her business, and he's gonna walk into that place every day telling everybody he's King Call.

No, he doesn't have he does it on social media and he doesn't even have the license.

I agree with you.

I mean but no, my employees, everyone knows that he is not an owner.

You can anyone at any time can ask and they will tell you that he is not.

But he won't.

Do you won't?

Do you want to hear part of this?

Yeah, I think it matters.

There's a minority keen from Victor Lane Car and Truck 2, located at 555 Southeastern Avenue, uh right at the corner of Southeastern and Raymond on the southeast side of Indianapolis.

Everybody knows that we jumped in and did a bar thing and it's been taking a lot of my time.

Um not so much need to be there, but I kind of was there to learn the ropes per se.

So that way, if I am needed, I could jump in and be hands-on.

Uh myself and Yvonne are hands-on owners.

Uh we believe in not seeing someone struggle.

Uh, we believe in jumping in because you're as only good as your employees.

And we've met both places.

We have some wonderful employees.

We have been blessed with the right pieces of the puzzle to make our journey forward with them as well.

Because obviously, you're only as good as your employees.

So if you have the right pieces, the people with the right mindset that are fully invested into your branding into your company, you're gonna succeed when there is a weekly.

So that personality's gonna walk into your business and just be calm and quiet.

He has been, yes.

I'm not sure when that video was posted, but well the date is probably on there on Facebook.

Yeah, but yeah, that's uh there's a hard no for me.

Well, and then before it was different because it was more heresy.

This is like just me from your role.

We don't have anything that keeps her out.

We have the concern of this guy.

What are our it's not like there's a felony, you know, what are our opportunities here?

It's up to the board to determine whether or not you think she's truthful and she truly is the owner and her husband is not, or if you feel like they're for some reason, whatever the reason may be, felt that they needed to conceal his ownership.

That's yeah.

Which they would have to because with his tax situation, he wouldn't be able to hold the license.

You said what now?

Yeah, they would not have gotten a tax clearance.

Yeah.

Well, they would have the tax clearance wouldn't be the issue.

The issue would be getting the regional emergency certificate.

True.

You're right.

You it would nothing's up to this board for coming in, so then my question is why not just if if that is the case that they could still do it that way, then why not just do it that way from the beginning?

And I'm looking at you as the attorney.

Yeah, and the expert, but I mean I met with initially with Tammy, who was back here, the uh the other owner.

Wait, the other owner's here?

Yes.

Why is she not up here?

I'm all right right here.

I mean come on up, Tammy.

We gotta see towards this up there, so okay.

We have plenty of seats.

We gotta get this right.

Just make sure that green light's on, Grace.

So Tammy, you currently own this or yes and no.

I've I purchased it off of Tony, the the other bar owner.

They decided or she decided Yvonne decided to buy it because I had the car lot next door to it.

Test stop you real quick.

Did we, when you bought it off of him, did we do a transfer and put it into your name?

Not yet, that's what we're doing.

Oh, that's what's happening to do this.

Yes, yes, I'm a member.

All right.

And my mom was a previous bar owner for years, and I know what it takes.

So I'm letting Yvonne run it, and I'm just setting back because I own both buildings.

I own the property.

Okay.

If that makes sense.

Yeah.

Did you hear what you said when you started speaking?

You caught yourself.

Yes, because it's just common badge.

Scott does not have nothing to do with that bar.

Oh, wait a minute, I missed him.

What was it?

Ebony and I both heard her.

She's when they and then when she.

Which is like nobody wants to be.

Well, I can just speak for myself.

Like, I don't want to be the killer of dreams or anything like that.

I could understand because of husband and wife.

But the video and the fact that she said they Scott is also a center of attention.

He does um the speed roam.

He did what did he get?

Tall pair speaker at the speed roam, so well, that might have done.

Um, I'm gonna vote.

I'm gonna make a motion to deny.

I'm not comfortable.

I think that last little piece, and I missed it.

I'm an appreciative of the board, but if I could, yeah.

If we were to come back next month and change the ownership and brought him in.

Hey.

I mean, from my stance, I'd like to meet him.

Yeah, I would say that I think that that should have been done from the beginning, and I don't want to speculate, but I think that you know where I'm going with this.

Like there was there was probably a thought around not putting him on there and just wanting to move past it and do it that way.

I can't I can't sit here and say that I don't think y'all consider that.

He is not on it.

I would not be comfortable coming back with him on it.

This is something that whether that works out or not, I will continue with this.

So he is not the owner.

Are we together?

Yes.

Yeah, about to separate kind of.

Okay.

Um, so we could do one of two things, and I'll let the three of you decide what you want to do.

We can either vote today or we can continue it.

Um I can meet with them.

Uh meet with her.

Um see if you know there are any other there's any other information we might need to make a decision and they can come back next month.

I think you have enough information to make the decision.

No, it's you, it's up to you guys.

I'm okay with coming back next month just because the bill's kind of fragmented and I don't want to I don't want to make uh a bad decision because we don't have enough information.

So yeah, we'll give you the 30 days because I'm gonna vote no right now.

I appreciate it.

A lot of concern.

Okay, we'll see you in 30 days.

Thank you.

Okay, and we need in between now and then I need to set up a meeting with you with both of you.

Do I reach out to you or Greg will?

Okay.

And he needs to be at that meeting, right?

No.

I don't want Scott at the meeting.

Oh okay.

Perfect.

But if I do need to meet with him, I'll let you know.

Right.

All right, with that, we're gonna take a comfort break.

We'll be right back with you before we start on violations.

We will call the meeting back to order, same rules and policies apply.

All years, Peter.

Calling RR 4905850, my army heat doing business as Silk Show Club, address 3512 Madison Evident.

This one's continued to June.

Calling RR49490 4646, Buckeye Beverage Court doing business as Connors Pub address 6331 North Parkinson Street.

This one's continued to June.

Calling RR4925829, David and Busters of Indiana LLC doing business as David Busters.

Address 8350 counseling corner drive.

Well, what could happen at David Busters?

All right.

Good morning.

How are we doing?

I think my client is just sworn.

All right.

Go ahead and raise your right hand for me, please.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Uh Clark Kirkman with Clark Quinn Law on behalf of Dave and Busters.

With me is uh Kevin Harris.

He is the new assist he is the assistant general manager at the Castleton location.

Um the general manager uh left a little over three weeks ago.

Um this violation stems from right around this time last year.

Uh excis went in.

We there was a you know, for lack of a better word, slipping through the cracks, and the renewal paperwork did not get filed.

Um so the day after the permit expired, XIS went in, was able to order a drink, and then they were cited for that violation.

So we obviously got the um got the renewal application submitted right away.

And as you can see, we're here this year, so we did file our renewal application on time.

All right.

Whose responsibility is it to keep track of expiration dates?

My understanding is that um, you know, the the general manager at the time should have submitted the when they get the renewal notice in the mail, should have sent that to corporate, and that did not um happen last year.

Um, I think we've set up back stops to where that that won't happen again, and you know, engaging more with my law firm as well to make sure that that does not happen again.

In the past, it's it's been sort of you know, they they file a lot of their own um renewal paperwork.

So we're I think we're taking a more hands-on approach with them.

Obviously, their their corporate headquarters is down in Texas.

So uh sometimes with national chains, these things can happen.

So your title's general manager, is that right?

It's just in general manager.

So there is there a general manager and you're the no right now.

I'm acting general manager.

Uh so ultimately you're the top dog at this spot.

So this falls on you.

Yeah.

We have a process you're gonna use.

I mean, could you explain to the board why the paperwork processes won't be a problem moving forward?

Um I think he was just a little uh lax of days going to work.

I'm not worried about him, he's gone.

How are you gonna handle it?

Well, um as soon as um anything comes in, I I will just report it uh straight to corporate or I will let my ride know.

Um I'm very communicative with my ride.

Um you see your ride.

Um my regional manager.

Got it.

All right, so um uh me and him just have built the rapport in these last three weeks.

So anything that that comes in, I'll just report it to him and then I'll report it to corporate.

It's pretty simple.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

So now you're you're the one responsible for um the day-to-day operations for management right now.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, so you're in charge of the employees' employee permits, all of those things.

Yes, ma'am.

How do you always keep track of employee permits?

Um we I have a file in cabinet, so everything goes into a file and cabinet with um every employee, so they they each have a file, and I just I'll put it in the fountain, and everything else is put into our our computer system.

And how do you know what triggers when someone's getting ready to expire?

Um it it usually just gives us an update, it gives us a notification because everything goes to work day.

So we have uh an actual program, and then it'll send us a notification.

Hey, blah blah blah, whatever is about to expire.

So then all we do is put them through Surf Safe or a liquor license or whatever that may be.

And then what's the policy on carding?

Um, anyone that comes to Dave and Busters, uh, if if you are going to order a drink, you're going to get carded, no matter what.

Um, but if we use discretion, if someone it looks over the age of 40 or 50 years old, there's a little discretion that you can use, but at the same time, we like the car just because there might be um an expired ID or you might not have your ID or or whatever that case may be, so we try to card everyone.

Okay.

I was just I'm just looking at some of your past violations, and because we've already talked about it.

You were here before, not you, but David Busters was here before on a compliance check violation.

So I was curious how that was handled.

Any further questions from the board?

There are none.

Do we have a motion?

Yes, sir.

Motion to approve.

Sir second.

I'll say it.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

All right.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Calling RR4904389, RCI Dining Services, Indiana, doing business as the pony address 3551 Lafayette Road.

This one will be continued to June.

Yes.

Calling RR 4988385, Bar Group LLC doing businesses, memories, bar and grill, address location pending.

This one be continued.

Calling DL4930983.

Carpica 6 LLC doing business at the liquor barn address 1801 South Himself.

The one the violation after this will all be the same ownership, but I want to we'll talk about them separately so we don't get confused.

Okay.

Uh oh, I see what you're saying.

So this was the violation would be the number five?

Number six.

Okay.

Carpent number six.

For this one, yeah.

Yeah.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Okay.

You got your green light on.

On the bottom of the no, right there you go.

So now the um Mark Palomero.

Can you introduce yourself?

Hi, my name is Pardeep Car.

And I have here my mother-in-law Kamalaishkar.

She's the owner.

Okay.

And you're here to interpret.

Yes.

My name is Solinda.

Sort of this thing.

Okay.

What's your relationship to the business?

I'm the new manager.

Okay.

Okay, all the MQs.

Can I just do a little quick?

Sure, of course.

The um Kamish Car, okay, is the 100% owner of the there's really three permits.

There's one in Spring, and there's the two.

I I say CARP 5 and CARP 6 because I can't really I don't see the name.

Uh she's on at 100%.

There was previous management in place.

Okay, before these for there were there was previous management in place, okay.

They are all gone down for the violations that they've had.

We've had violations on two both locations.

All the employees are all retrained.

There's all new systems in place.

There's the new uh card systems where you have to scan it.

You can't do anything.

Uh there's going to be transfers for ownership coming through for uh if I can get him on the June docket for June or July.

All depends.

I have the paperwork to be filed for all these.

Um, and uh he's gonna be the new owner.

Okay, going forward after the transfers are in place, and then there's another partner, which is his wife, which I have the new MQ that I have to file, which will be filed this afternoon.

Okay, with the other transfer permits.

Okay.

Is is it so she selling the businesses completely or she's selling the businesses completely, but she's still gonna own the property.

She's not landlord.

Just gonna be a landlord.

We have those management agreements in place.

I have those leases in place.

Those would be all filed.

Okay.

Come on this afternoon.

So she doesn't actually operate anything.

She does not.

It's all management.

It was all management.

No longer.

No longer there.

So this was a violation for scope.

So retail to retail.

Means they weren't buying from a wholesaler.

Um failures by the alcohol permit.

Tobacco certificate, and the smoking signage was not properly posted.

And you're the new manager?

Yes.

So tell us what are you doing so that these kinds of violations don't happen under your watch.

Yes, up on the new system.

And uh menu down the license or we posted all the signs.

We need it.

And uh what do you have employee permits?

And each um every employee was certified and all the certifications are on file behind the counter.

Okay, everything is redone when we took this over.

Okay, we made sure that we retrained everybody.

From a historical standpoint, am I wrong that this uh the liquor barn has just been a problem for us?

Probably not you.

I think since you've been on here.

Let me look and see what their history is.

Yeah.

Well, they purchased this in three years ago.

All right, maybe that's when it got quiet.

I can remember the I remember long long time ago.

Yeah, but that it was not uh these people.

Okay.

So for the location on Emerson, which we're talking about right now.

We had a violation in 2019, 2023, and then this one in 2026.

Which I gotta say, I don't this might be a first for me.

I don't know if I've ever seen a liquor store that it was purchasing retail to retail from another liquor store.

Well, it was an employee who purchased an item and had the receipt sitting next to the item when the compliance check was when the excise officers came in.

So they went to another liquor store, bought something, brought they bought the from my understanding, they bought the purchased in the store and had the receipt next to whatever the whatever they purchased.

And the ex I can be wrong, but the excise officer.

Yeah, the report says uh that they that they presented several invoices, however, they were currently on no ship list when this happened and they're and they weren't able to provide any invoices for the month of December, but they were able to match certain items in the business with some receipts from big red and total wine and more.

So I think the story was it was for private use for a party, but they're on no ships, so they couldn't purchase any from the wholesaler, so they were selling it.

And it's sitting there in a store and app at an event or somebody's house.

Are you able to order alcohol?

Um the last order could see the order no.

She's not managing it, so she probably knows.

No, they're they're ordering alcohol.

Yeah, they're all they're operating on an extent on an extension.

So as far as I know, um the last order they had it in November, and they were um purchasing beer but not alcohol, because they knew they wanted to, you know, sell the liquor store eventually.

So the last um order they had was in November.

No, beer a beer wholesaler is separate from a liquor wholesaler, so they could be on no ship with one and not the others.

They're uh they're currently they they some we submitted a correction correct correction action plans to the the commission, everything they wanted.

They approved everything, they gave us the extensions for both permits, okay, because we explained to them we were going through new management and for the sale.

They didn't have a problem with it.

They're ordering out.

Okay, they the current extension that's in place will expire on the 26th of May.

Okay, and we were we're here to make sure, hopefully that we can get the permit renewed so we can do the transfer because they're not gonna let us do the transfer without the permit being renewed.

But both permits being renewed.

Gotcha.

And just I just to be clear, like beer is COD, so that's why you wouldn't be on a no ship basically.

Yeah.

So I'm clear the people that were involved in this business before are no longer affiliated with the business.

No, just this the people that are in this complaint report.

No.

All the employees were retrained.

The one employee though that got the one violation, they we've we've retrained him.

He's been with them eight years.

Okay, but going forward, they're having the writtenness policy.

If there is any more violations, okay, there's an even immediate termination.

Okay.

Well, any further questions from the board here.

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

There's a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Is that for both?

No, that's just for the first time.

Calling DL4930984, Car KERPA number five, LLC doing business as the Liquor Bar.

Address 6002 Southeastern Lab.

Will you be managing this location as well?

Yes.

Yes.

With his wife.

No, my sister.

Oh, your sister, I'm sorry.

Sorry about that.

I have that's the new MQ that I have to file tonight this afternoon.

Okay.

And this violation was the same stuff.

It's similar.

Same thing.

But I don't think this violation was a selling to a minor.

Or was it selling to the miner?

This one was for retail again, retail to retail.

So I mean that tells, or no, I'm sorry, I'm looking at the same report, the first report.

Yeah.

No, this wasn't it's just the permits.

Putting your certificate up.

Smoking.

It's management stuff.

Yeah, this was all this one was this was all administration.

Uh are you up to this?

Yes.

These are really simple things to solve, right?

I believe everything is up to date.

And you know the rules and responsibilities.

Where the permits need to be held, where the sides need to be placed.

Yes.

Oh, no, this location had stuff purchased from Baverad and Total Line as well.

So I mean that well, scope of look or retail plan.

Yeah.

It tells me right there.

Definitely was not for private use, which you can't do anyway, but I mean that excuse.

Well, that management is no longer in place.

I I understand.

It's just and that's always the case though, too.

I mean, that I wake up on the alcohol board Monday, no one I'm gonna hear violators come in here telling me the good news is that guy no longer works that's the given.

Yes, I understand that completely.

So then we gotta go track it back to okay.

Well, who's hiring these people?

And what criteria are we using when we go through the hiring process?

And then when they appoint a manager, we gotta ask you, can you handle this?

Can you get the permits just stuck where they need to go?

Yes.

And pay the bills?

Frustrated.

Yes, definitely.

This is going to be the new owners too if the transfers go through.

And I do have those transfers right here.

All ready to go.

All right.

Any further questions on this one?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most to approve.

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Okay.

That takes care of both of those.

Thank you.

We'll see you next month or in July.

Thank you.

Calling RR4934931, BSL Entertainment LLC doing business as the patron saint.

Address 250 South Marine Street.

And we will hear it in June.

Calling DL4930235 Raja Hall Inc.

doing business at shortstop gas station 239 East Michigan Street.

Anyone here for shortstop gas station?

Okay, shall we continue?

Call the RR4937293 T C M L Q L L C doing business as Balachi Indian Cuisine address 4825 East 96th Street.

Suite 1600.

Hello.

Good morning.

Were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

Yes.

Sir, what's your name?

Satish Musati.

What's your last name?

Musloti.

Okay.

Uh do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why?

Um that business license expired, and uh there were no permit, and the signage was missing.

Ugh.

Well, are you the owner of this license?

Yes.

Why didn't you do those things?

Um so the first one is the license.

Um sorry, I just want to clarify it that he is the manager there, the the license is held by the landlord, um, which was part of some of the confusion there with the um expired business permit.

There was difficulty getting in touch with the parties, people were traveling and everything, so that was part of of that reason.

But who's the landlord?

Um the landlord, is that TC own the building um uh but they they don't have any operate direct control over the operations?

You operate under a managed agreement with the landlord.

Yes on the permit.

So then should the landlord be here so they just own the property.

Yeah, they wouldn't have actually controlled direct operations with the process.

They wouldn't have any knowledge of the violation okay.

But they but they hold the license.

Yes.

And then whatever business restaurant they bring in there works under a managed management agreement.

Got it.

So ultimately the landlord, because they hold the permit, they're the ones responsible.

Yeah.

Yeah, if we take it, we're taking it from them.

Yeah.

But what about the the list here?

What is the responsibility to that list?

All of it.

Well, I mean, they're responsible for any violation, but I mean when you look at these violations, it's the management.

I mean the restaurant that was running it that failed to comply.

The first knowledge first person knowledge of the the violation.

Other than the business expired permit, which would fall under the landlord to renew.

The rest would be their responsibility.

So what do you do all day?

So I work, um, I have a IT company.

I do that and uh evenings I'm at the restaurant.

All right.

Are all these fixed?

Yeah.

Everything is fixed.

And we're working with Greg and um talk about it.

Yeah.

Talk about it.

Tell us so we applied um the extension for the business license, and that's approved now.

We are uh able to operate um the business.

Second, we applied for the permit, and um I myself and the employees we all have permits now.

And this all the signage is taken care of as well.

And we're also implementing like um a Salesforce application to um make sure that uh all these dates are uh in place and we get reminders constant reminders about the expirations and stuff like that.

I don't know.

It's frustrating because it's it's just the first time somebody's gotta be the boss, you know.

Somebody's gotta run this thing.

How do you keep track of your man of your employee permits?

Right now, it's manual, but we have um also doing a Salesforce application to have all the employees there and also track when it is expiring and uh when till when that um permit is valid.

How many employees do you have?

No five.

That serve five must serve.

Only two of them to serve two that serve.

That's not really all that many to keep track of.

It shouldn't be too difficult.

Yeah, here we are.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

None.

Do we have motion?

Most to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll follow you on that.

I'll second that.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

All right.

Clean it up.

Calling RR493 8140, Sunshine Breakfast House and Grill.

Doing doing businesses, Sunshine Breakfast House and Grill.

Address 5116 West 38.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Were you still were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

No.

Then raise your hand, please.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might get to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

I do.

I don't.

Would you like to introduce your client?

Oh Dennis Osava.

This is uh Ariana Moris.

She's the owner of Sunshin uh breakfasts.

Okay.

Ma'am, do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why?

Uh because uh the inspector came to the story we was uh with um expired uh license.

But as soon as the window we uh correct the issue.

Okay.

Is that the only violation?

Yes.

All right.

Oh no, no, no, no.

I'm sorry.

It was the um also the signs in ex expiration of one of the permits for my uh staff.

Okay.

And a compliance check with excise.

Well no, hold on, I guess it's not counted instead, but uh yeah, it is in here on Sunshine House?

Am I looking at the right one?

I think you're looking at the wrong one.

Yeah, I don't have that.

This is Sunshine Breakfast House.

Yeah, I am okay.

So it says that somebody ordered a beer and then came back in after observing the missing signage.

So that's not um a compliance check.

Yeah, and they'll they'll do that at times because technically they have to see someone served in order to check for or in order for someone to have an expired employment.

Got it.

Well, ma'am, what are you doing differently?

We hire somebody to be on top of our uh expiration uh papers.

Uh we hire uh we have somebody also checking uh all license for more servers are on good without expiration if it's on the next month we talk to the employees that way they can renew the license.

Are you there every day?

Do you manage it yourself?

Not every day, but a five days a week, yes.

Is this your only location?

I got two locations.

Where's your other location?

Uh Greenwood.

Is it in Marion County or Johnson County?

Johnson County.

You have any violations down there?

No, not at all.

What was different?

You had two stores.

This one didn't have the paperwork, and that one did.

It almost makes me think you would you would know because you had the correct paperwork in Greenwood, but not here.

I was gonna, I mean, it's not excuse, but I was kind of busy at the time, but uh as soon as I realized uh we just that they submit all the paperwork to have my liquor license.

It's the first time in eight years, so I was gonna ask you.

How long have you had your license?

Eight years.

And these are your first violations?

Yes, the first one.

Everything's been corrected?

Yes, everything is correct and everything's recorded, and I have everything on paper.

So how are you keeping track of your dates from here on out?

I would like to say we hire somebody to do that job that we if she don't do it, I have to do it.

So two times that we have to be everything correct.

Yeah, so how is how is that person keeping track of their work?

Oh, they have uh set in an alarms that they we can remind him that it is gonna expire on three months, two months, and one month.

Yeah.

So do you have the alarm set as well so you can follow up with them?

Yeah.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion please.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye, aye.

Good luck, ma'am.

Thank you.

RR4938160, end zone bar and grill, uh C door business bar and grill, address 8311 North Michigan.

They've requested a continuance.

Calling RR4939293 in one restaurant heat, doing business as three in one restaurant, address 1413 West 86th Street.

Uh come on.

Nick.

Morning, Nick Royals.

Uh, with me, I have Adrian Vasquez at um owner for three and one.

Um, so this was a violation that occurred back in 2024.

Hang on, let's see if he knows.

Yeah, oh sorry.

Do you know why you're here?

Yeah, a violation.

Why?

What the server minor?

You served a minor?

Yes.

How long have you had your license?

Uh not too long.

Uh since 24.

So this was a compliance check.

Yes.

And you were the server in the compliance check.

Right.

But you're also the owner?

Yep.

So what do you have?

What do you got?

Well, um, from that, uh, I learned a very valuable lesson to check IDs all the time.

I was busy at the moment with a couple of paper uh things uh that I had to do in the office, but that's no excuse.

That's also how business operates.

Yeah, I'm busy.

Yes.

Uh, but it's no excuse.

I should have been paying more attention to it, so I own up to it.

That was my mistake.

You know, um, but now check everybody.

There is no excuse.

Uh there's only one more or the server, and we check every ID.

It doesn't matter if you're a regular or not a regular.

Um, you know, we check.

Okay.

So you sat here two years ago.

Or did you sit right there?

I guess.

And did we ask you about checking IDs?

Yes.

Remember what you said?

Yeah.

Did I do check?

Yeah.

You know.

Yep.

All right.

Uh it's just you and one other server?

How big?

How many what's the capacity?

It's a what 40, 50 seats or so.

It's a smaller shrine.

Uh yeah.

It's only 1500 square feet, the restaurant.

But I believe it's only about 40.

40.

Is this your first time doing that?

Yeah.

It's kind of hard to tell your employees that they have to check per check identification when you don't do it yourself.

Correct.

Yeah.

I know.

Uh that was my mistake.

Uh I should have been paying more attention.

It was uh early in the morning.

I had to do a couple papers, but like again, I said there's no excuse for it.

You know, I own up to it and my mistakes.

Um from there, we haven't had another incident.

Um, you know, I make sure everything's uh correct now.

Yep.

Uh any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

No more.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling R R 4939420, Upland Brewing Company, Heat Movement Businesses Upland.

Brewing Company, address 4939 East and 2nd Street Suite 100.

There are two violation reports for this.

I don't think we've ever had upland in here, have we?

No.

Not that I recall.

Morning, Clark.

Morning.

Sure.

Clark Kirkman with Clark Quinn Law.

I have Tabitha Williams and Andrew Priller.

You can tell you what they do for Upland.

I'm the process and training manager for all of our locations.

Process entering.

And training.

And training.

Okay.

Training.

Um the regional manager for the Northern District, uh, Indianapolis, why you're in County.

Who's answering questions?

I guess either all the time.

Do you know why you're I guess I'll operate I'll answer questions about the actual establishment and she'll go on about training and what we got to do to go forward.

So what happened?

Why are you in front of us?

Uh is it both?

Is it both?

Both.

Um in 2024 we had uh early morning uh bartender didn't guard.

Uh so they got serving a minor, and then again in 2025, I believe it was in October or November, we had another bartender did the same thing.

So this is the um upland location that is near 82nd and Allisonville Road.

Yeah, it's closed now.

Um and it actually they they closed their doors permanently early in April.

Um what that location just wasn't working out, wasn't doing well.

Um we all know who upland is.

You know, they have um over a dozen licenses, and across all of those operations, they've had three violations in the past five years, and two of them are the ones that we're talking about right now.

So their overall record of compliance is is very good.

Um since um that last incident in particular, they've actually hired a private bars program.

So they're actually they're sending on people in to all of their locations on a monthly basis to make sure that you know to try and get make sure they're gonna card scenario send them in in the morning, clearly.

Yeah, that's pretty much in the middle.

It seems to be a pattern.

Yeah.

I mean they may make it exactly what 18, like we it's not just that.

We just also say to you guess as well.

So what's corporate's policy?

Immediate termination.

Yeah, both of those bartenders were terminated when after the sale.

The relevant but different sales.

So you're here to tell us why it won't happen again?

Sure.

All right, what do you got?

Um yes, so it is in the handbook.

Um when a new hire is brought on, they have to sign up on the handbook.

So it our policy is in the handbook.

Uh we also use a learning management system that has alcohol training in it as well, so it's just another form of acknowledgement to them.

Um and then we have like an annual reminders that goes out once a quarter with the policy stating again.

Um so um, and we've had that since I believe the last five before the last violation.

Um and um ongoing um like Clark mentioned the bars program.

Um I think that really um that's for all of our entities.

Um I think that really helped.

So for for for me, it's a matter of um you deal with humans, they're gonna you can tell them they may not do it, but we want to see that these organizations that hire those people and train those people and ultimately responsible for that license are taking it serious.

So uh I appreciate the steps you're taking.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a uh motion?

Motion approved motion to approve, all second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

All right, have a good one.

Thanks a lot.

Calling DL4933087 U.S.

Lickwell Group L L C doing business as 21st amendment package to address 1154 west eighty-six morning.

Morning again, Lisa McKenney with Bozemakenny and Evans, representing U.S.

liquor group.

Yeah.

Go ahead and Samir.

Yep, my name is Samir Desai.

I'm the chief financial officer for US Liquor Group.

And we're here for a violation back in February of 25.

Yeah for serving to a minor.

So the employee, the employee that was in place did not actually card the and it went against policy, didn't card.

So he did ask for the uh uh the customer's uh card, but I think she didn't provide it and he still went went ahead and did the sale.

So we take this very seriously.

I mean the employee was let go, he's no longer working with the company.

Um then we also do it and then we have a policy where now we make sure we uh keep a file of all the active employees' permits at the store level, and if ownership decides to go there at any point, do a random check, make sure you know things are there.

Does they have them on them?

So yeah, so then so they change that policy so that they keep a binder of um employee permits and then um and make sure that anybody's being hired that they have their employee permit so that they're actually tracking for all the their for their locations.

What about um this point of sale where uh cashier can type in because I'm putting it together, that's what they did.

They asked for a birthday or something, maybe, and then they typed that in, and that's how they did the sale.

Like I'm trying to understand that part.

Because you said they asked for an ID but they didn't get one, but then they completed the sale.

Yeah, so he probably didn't.

I mean, I wouldn't know what exactly the employee did at that point, but currently we have a new point of sale system.

We've changed it.

So earlier we were with uh Maxstar when we had 19 locations.

Now we are down to a more uh three uh three locations, so we we changed the point of sale system.

So how does the point of sale system work now?

Well, it is more advanced, but it's not as expensive as it used to be.

Uh uh all the liquor stores uh who purchased our remaining stores, they all are on the same point of sale system.

But did it so it does it allows them a scanning feature also?

Are they required are they required to scan an ID now?

Uh or can it be can you still type in a date of birth?

Uh you can it's it's optional, so you can still type in a date of birth and it also allows you to scan.

So that this was a compliance check, and there's strict regulations on how they do compliance checks.

So the youth are not allowed to carry an ID with them when they go in.

And if they're asked for a date of birth, they have to give their real date of birth, would make would make them under 21.

So this clerk typed in whatever whatever random date of birth.

Yeah, yeah, which is still a concern because yeah, your POS system now still allows for the same thing to happen.

So maybe you need a little bit of a something I'll I'll take it up and probably we'll just block that feature which doesn't allow uh override.

Right.

It's it's a back yeah, it wouldn't allow the override, so if it doesn't scan, the sale doesn't go through.

So then you can have them change that so it would only be they can do that, yeah.

So we just I mean I just have to make sure that that's how it's currently set up.

If not, we'd make sure the override is it's removed.

Change the change the coding on it, so it won't allow it.

And it's up to you on how you want to have it set up if you if you feel comfortable selling to people that appeared at over the age of 40 without an ID that's completely up to you.

But I just want to make sure you understand that that was the problem with this clerk was that they just they No, we don't want to take this chances, so better is just override.

And then that that employee were they terminated?

Yep, it's no longer immediately terminated.

Yep.

Okay, yeah, I think it's a great idea.

All right, any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR4940405 at LL Sauce LLC, do our business as North Side Bar and Grill, address 7526 North Shape.

Anyone here from the North Side Bar?

Yeah.

Calling DL493403, Jazz Raja Inc.

doing businesses, Jazz Raja address 2102 North Post Run.

Okay, continue.

Calling DL493 3409.

SSD oil ink doing business is calling it in quick stop.

Address 5950 East 38 Street.

I think this one is still pending.

Before you get started, let me check and make sure it's good.

Are you the owner or the manager?

Yes, I'm the owner.

What's your name, sir?

My name is Jandard Delly.

Okay, and you had a violation.

Have you paid your settled violation?

I actually done that Friday.

You did it just Friday.

Uh-huh.

That's why I should still.

Yes, but rough week.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes, sir.

Why?

Violation.

My uh employee served uh underage.

How long have you had your license?

Uh I think two years.

Did it go on two years now?

How many violations do you have outside of this one?

Never.

Okay.

You don't have a copy of your paid receipt, do you?

Uh it's actually in my rental car.

And my brother has that rental card with them.

Okay.

Okay, because it's not been entered in the system yet, so we will go ahead and take I'll go ahead and take your word for it that it was paid.

If I find out it's not, you'll have to come back next month.

Okay.

I'll I'll get that after I'll get the picture hopefully because send it to me.

So what was the circumstance?

Well, I guess he was on the phone or something, Bluetooth, and he didn't even pay attention.

Oh, because I called him for a gas reading.

And that's when I heard, so I'm like, hey, who's there?

He goes, Oh, I got uh uh XIC got a I served underage, he's like, I don't know what I was thinking.

I was like, why the hell would you do that?

How did you do you have a scanner?

Yes, I do, but um that was where you could just punch in the numbers, so now I update it to where they have to scan the ID.

So that is a feature where you can just turn it on and off.

Uh I didn't have that feature on there, but uh changed it to uh my back office system does it, so they had it, and then that's when I linked it through them.

Okay.

Yeah.

So after this transpired, you've made a corrective action, which is the scanner.

Yes.

All right.

This this employee they did, that's what what happened?

Did they were they trained before or what was the deal?

He's been here uh for with us almost four months, and he was good, he was good at everything, you know, like checking theft or underage or whatnot, but yeah, I don't know what happened that day.

Is this your only location?

No, ma'am.

How many locations do you have?

I have uh one other in Anderson.

So how often are you in each of your locations?

Oh every day.

You go to each of them every day?

Yeah.

About I spent about about six hours each one.

How many violations do you have on the Anderson license?

None.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, except the motion.

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

All second.

Yeah, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

All right, good luck.

Calling DL493-3409 SSD Oil Inc.

doing business as Arlington Quick Stop, address 5950 East 38th Street.

Oh, that's the one we just did that.

Oh.

Yeah.

Yeah, never mind.

Calling RR4941568, Famous Dave's ribs, Inc.

doing business as famous Dave's.

Address 3645 Vincent Road.

Anyone here from Famous Dave?

Sounds good though.

Yeah.

Calling RR4942026, Curry Leaf Inc.

doing business as Curry Leaf.

Address 8505 Keystone Crossing Suite A.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Uh yeah, a little bit.

Okay.

I don't see one for this.

Let's see.

Oh, you you know what you don't have it because it was they just paid it.

Yeah, I believe it was a within the last week or two.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Why don't you uh introduce your client?

Yes, uh Benal Patel.

Uh this is uh owner, one of the owners for Cray Leaf.

Um so this is a violation that occurred back uh well just earlier this year actually.

Um yeah, to talk through the specifics.

Is this a food court?

No, this is uh fine night.

This is a uh yeah, uh community restaurant that is um where the old Mod Pizza used to be it's right next to the first watch, so it's just on the south side of 86th Street there.

Across across from the mall.

Okay.

Um so in that strip mall area.

Um yes, it's a a beautiful uh space and and very nice upscale Indian restaurant.

Okay, so what's the violation?

What's the violation, sir?

Oh, um, so we didn't have an active server who has who had an active license at that point, and the manager was kind of busy doing something else.

So food owner came out and took the order, and that was ex-cise officer.

He didn't have the liquor serving license.

And our legal license expired on February 28.

And we had some issues with the ownership, not the issue, but I think the new one of the question was like, is all the owners are US resident and one of the owners was in transition from getting the green car.

So we are going back and forth with the immigration lawyer and what to put in in that time license expired, excise officer won't then uh non-licensed person served the alcohol.

How long have you had your license?

Uh that one's we got it in 2025.

How many violations outside of this?

Uh no.

But we have two other bars that we own, so we've been operating.

What are you doing differently now?

Well, so now we have everybody.

So at that we have the licensed servers at that point the guy was laid, so it's not something that I couldn't handle at the time.

But what we are doing right now is make sure the manager is up front all the time if there's no server.

If there is no license server and manager can go and take the order because manager is licensed to settle alcohol.

And I'm sorry, I thought you were done.

I'm sorry.

And we are keeping track of all the ex licenses expiring because we have almost 30 employees between all the locationals or alcohol, so you've only had this location for a year, right?

Yes.

It's not a good way to start.

Yes, absolutely.

I have a question about hiring um servers who do not have a an employee permit.

What is the reason behind that?

No, no, he he works as a food runner.

As a food runner.

Right.

Okay.

And he like it's a five upscale restaurant, so where he only thing he handles is food.

So somehow or another he ended up serving alcohol.

Yeah, because of the this actual server got laid.

Yeah, this manager was busy somewhere.

So we had customer one, he obviously greeted them, give them a seat and asked for what they want for a drink, and you ran out and grabbed the drink.

That's bad.

That's bad luck.

That's a lot of people, you know.

Xenx comes in and they it's the one-off thing, or they don't normally do it.

They did it this one time.

Yeah, yeah, that's uh too coincidental for me.

Yeah.

So what so is there a new policy as far as keeping that separation?

Because I can't imagine it it would be that long of a wait to wait for a server who is licensed to to come and take the order.

So what is the new policy around that?

So the policy is the any any non-serving staff is not allowed to take any orders if the customers do wait, can wait a little bit longer, but non-serving staff cannot take any orders.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

I'll second that.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Calling RR494245, Hilltop Bar Inc.

doing business as Hilltop Tavern.

6500 East 10th Street.

Hilltop.

I don't know that I've ever heard of this.

Um with me I have Carrie Gross, owner for Helltop.

Um this was a violation that occurred also earlier this year.

Um was recently settled, so I'm not sure if it shows in your system anyway.

Yeah, that this meeting for you as well.

Yeah, this means um and um that carry can answer any questions.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes, um, they came in to do a compliance check, and there was uh no food or the requirement food, but we sell a lot of milk and stuff during the mornings because we serve breakfast at 7 a.m.

So we went through a lot of it, so we didn't have it actually on hand.

I mean we had some, but it wasn't the requirements.

Okay.

On this one, it wasn't a compliance check as we think of a compliance check, excise take send region.

This was a sent detail, which is a detail that involves fire marshal, I and PD excise, um health department, and they'll go into certain locations together and kind of work together.

So that's and it was compliance in what you're thinking, yes, but different.

Do they sit down and randomly decide where they're gonna go?

Are they going somewhere based off of well it depends?

Sometimes it's based off of issues that the locations have.

Sometimes it's just because they hadn't been there or they're close by yeah, it's often the I think usually they they tried to visit most locations within uh a calendar year period.

Yeah it says record of server training certificates.

Uh you did not have any on premise.

Did you have them though?

I had them, but they just weren't on premises, they were with me at the time because we were actually like kind of like restructuring.

They were with me at the time because we were actually like kind of like restructuring.

We don't really have an office.

We have a closet.

So we were like remodeling, like trying to organize it, and they were with me.

But I have everybody's yes.

Okay.

Are you managing the location yourself?

Oh yeah, definitely.

So you're there every day.

I am there every day.

Any further questions from the board on this one?

What's different now?

I have them in a folder and there's a safe behind the bar that all the employees has access to them, so they're actually on premises at all times.

And now I brought in powdered milk.

And so that if we don't have the actual milk, we have powdered milk now.

Just out of curiosity, did you get a violation from the health department or fire marshal when they were there that night?

Just over just like it I think it was over the uh manager for the kitchen, but we do have that now.

Everything's been corrected.

Yeah, everything, everything's been done.

Yeah.

Any further questions from the board?

Then do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Good luck.

Okay.

Calling R R 494, 2437, Y and C West LLC, doing business as Jummy Crab.

Address 5046 West Pike Plaza round.

Oh.

I know who you are.

Yeah.

Who are you guys?

I am Jacob.